Dissect - CHROMAKOPIA is coming! Here's what we know.

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

The rollout for Tyler The Creator's Chromakopia has been a masterclass in world building and fan engagement. Cole dissects the various video snippets, album title, and character, and speculates on possible album themes and concepts ahead of its release on October 28th. Next week, Cole will return to give his first impressions on the album. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome everyone to a special episode of Dissect. I'm your host, Cole Kishna. Today we are doing a special somewhat emergency podcast on the rollout of Chromacopia, Tyler the Creator's new album releasing on Monday, October 28th. I'm incredibly excited about this album. I have been very impressed with the rollout. We will be doing a first impressions episode after the album comes out, but this rollout has been too phenomenal not to address,

before the album comes out. So on today's episode, we're going to go through all the elements of the rollout. I'm going to give you my thoughts and some analysis on the title, on some of the Easter eggs, some of the possible themes, a lot of speculation, mostly in order to give us some things to listen for as we experience the album on Monday. Tyler is once again building a world with this album. It has been a masterclass in world building promotion and kind of organic rollout, very concise, calculated, everything's so well thought out. So let's dive in.

I'm going to go through the bullet points of each day and what we got. And then we're going to talk more holistically about the title, the album cover, the character, all that kind of stuff. Again, a lot of speculation. But I wanted to acknowledge this part of the process because I am so excited. for this album. I haven't been this excited for an album in a long time, and I think a lot of it has to do with just how well executed this rollout is. Also, if you're wondering why my voice is like an octave lower than usual, it's because I am currently in L.A. I came down here to meet with some Spotify and some Ringer folks for the week. We went out to dinner last night. It was loud in the restaurant, so I was talking a lot. And I had two drinks and woke up with a headache, and I'm officially washed. But that's why my voice is a little lower than usual. But we press on because Chromacopia is coming on Monday,

October 28th. We will talk about that release date on a Monday later in the episode. Very interesting. But we first got wind of this project on Wednesday, October 16th with a video snippet titled St. Chroma, which is likely going to be the first song on the album. We hear

a portion of that song. We see this character introduced. We see the shipping container introduced. We get the album title revealed at the end and a lot of the main elements of this world are presented and established in this very first video snippet. The next day Tyler reveals that Chromacopio will be releasing on Monday, October 28th. And then the rollout kind of slowed over the weekend, but he came back with gas on Monday, October 22nd with the Noid video and full single on streaming. The song is

incredible in my opinion. I am very excited about this song. I've been trying my best not to listen to it every day, but it's an indication of what this album is going to sound like, and I am very excited. The next day, Tuesday, October 22nd, we get the vinyl montage video where you can pre-order the vinyl, but also came with this video snippet that had three songs, or what I'm assuming is three songs that kind of cycle through the video. All of them sound fantastic. The next day, Wednesday, October 23rd, he announces the world tour. We see another video. This is where he pulls Lil Yati and Paris, Texas, the two acts he's bringing on tour with him,

kind of saves them from this line of men that are going into a plane that then explodes. But world tour, very exciting. Next day, Thursday, October 24th, today, the day I'm recording this, he announces a listening party at Intuit Dome in L.A. this coming Sunday the night before the album drops. He's going to do not a performance, but a kind of a listening party where he's going to do the Kanye thing of just playing the album and kind of just lip-sinking along.

Very excited. I will be not in L.A. at that point. So I won't be going to be an incredible experience. Also, part of this rollout has been the Chromacopia trucks that are being driven. Started off in Tyler, Texas. And there's two trucks. one of them drove east and one of them drove west. It seems like they're on track to landing in New York and L.A. respectively.

But they've been stopping the trucks in certain locations. And so fans are able to go and visit the trucks and take pictures. It's a really cool community idea. So, so unique, so original. Also, a little nugget is that if you call the previous call me if you get lost number. If you guys remember, there was a number you could call during that rollout and you'd hear Tyler mom's voice. He has since kind of rebranded that number. So if you call it now, it connects you to Chroma Trucking Service and it says all their lines are busy. But it's another very cool detail.

Just fun stuff for us fans to enjoy and all part of building this incredible world in such an efficient and a fast amount of time. Right. Like this has been just over a week at this point. And I feel like we've already, the world is so well articulated. And I feel like it's the the fastest. He has built a world and the most robust. He's done this obviously with the past handful of rollouts, but he has just perfected this and it is so unique to him. No one is doing it like this. That feels just so, so well thought out. Every detail, every day we're waking up with something to be excited about, all culminating, of course, to the music, which is to him the most important. So let's actually talk about the music. Like I said, I'm, I've actually

tried not to overplay the snippets and the full song Noid because I this is what I do with all albums. If an artist releases a single prior to the album, I listen to it usually once or twice and just kind of try to forget about it because I have found that if you over listen to the single, it kind of sticks out from the full album experience because you're so familiar with it. And so I really want to respect Noid and hear it within the context of the album without it kind of sticking out too much from the rest of the songs. But with that said, I will say this definitely feels more of the Igor sound than call me if you get lost. Noid especially has that more gritty texture to it. But it does feel elevated or of an evolution of the sound.

It feels like he is bringing new things to it, right? There's a lot of interesting rhythm, polyrhy rhythms going on in that song. of syncopation. I mean, it's just one song, so we don't know what the rest of the album is going to sound like. There have been these kind of more beautiful moments in the snippet as well, the classic kind of Tyler chords with the strings, the female background vocals. It feels like he's firing on all cylinders musically with this rollout. This is probably the biggest reason that I'm such a fan of Tyler is that he just continues to get better. Again, I haven't heard the album, but the rollout, what we've heard from the album, feels in line.

with the evolution of Tyler the Creator, getting better and better, perfecting his craft, and really building these really unique idiosyncratic worlds. I'll talk a little bit more about the sample of Noid later in this episode. I don't want it to actually talk about the music too much because I'm saving that conversation for post-release next week. So let's move on to the title. Chromacopia. Great title, alliteration.

It looks great. The font. Everything looks really great about it. but let's break it down as best we can chroma means color copia means abundance so surface level kind of your basic interpretation is an abundance of color this makes sense for tyler anyone that's followed tyler's career you know he's very much into color if you follow golf wang and golf lefleur uh you know that color palettes are very important to him and so i'm very interested in this concept right so in i think every single visual

that we've gotten so far, color has been a main motif, maybe the main motif of these snippets, right? Most of them start in this kind of colorless sepia tone and this St. Chroma character through detonating these explosions turns the frame into full saturated color. So we'll talk about the character in a second here, but it seems like his main function is to bring color into the world. What that means exactly? Not sure yet. I have some speculative. ideas that I'm going to talk about, but abundance of color is what the album means. That's your basic translation. However, if you dig deeper into these words, and again, we're going to get into speculation theoretical stuff here, but there is some interesting things that we might

want to think about going into the album. So just some possibilities. So chroma, if you get a little bit more in depth with just a simple definition of color, chroma means the purity of a color and it's freedom from white and gray. That's the textbook definition. So it's freedom from white or gray. Freedom feels very much important. That liberation from black and white to color and the synchroma character being the one to signal that change seems very important. Tyler has often spoke about people getting stuck either creatively or just in their day-to-day life of limiting themselves to basic trends, be it in fashion or music, and especially within certain cultures and feeling like you need to be doing this because you're this identity.

He's always been someone that has been trying to broaden people's horizons about fashion, about music, about creativity, just thinking outside the box. So it's not surprising that this might be a central theme of this album. Also, Chroma is the aspect of a colors hue that depends. on the amount of white or black in it. So this is interesting as I think it's like kind of the third definition if you look up chroma. But if Tyler was aware of this and was playing with this idea of the amount of black or white

in a color and how it relates to saturation, you could see that being used possibly as like a melanin play. I think of a lyric like on Flower Boy when he said, tell these black kids they could be who you are, dye your hair blue, shit, I'll do it too. And again, it goes back to this idea of Tyler being someone very adamant about expanding your horizons. Just because you look this way doesn't mean you have to dress or act this way. There's other colors in the world, so to speak. There's other ways to express yourself if that's who you are in the inside.

And that's what you're interested in. So I could see that version of the definition, possibly having some kind of relevance to the theme of the album. Also, chroma keying is the technical terminology for a green screen. this was one of the first things that I thought of when I saw the title and the album cover with the green background chroma keying the green there might be a possibility there the idea being that on a green screen you can overlay on top of the green screen whatever you want and so if tyler was playing with this idea of chroma and green and by the way the st chroma character at least in the st chroma video snippet when it goes to full color and you see his thumb on the explosion

switch, his thumb, his whole hand is green. So if the character has a green aspect to it, you could see maybe it being a thing, this idea of you can be whatever you want. Just as a green screen, you could project whatever you want onto that screen. It's, it symbolizes infinite possibility. So that might be a thing. It may have nothing to do with it, but it's something I thought of, something I'll be kind of looking for. But green is definitely like this album's color, right? It's very clear. It's the combination of green and this colorless kind of sepia, vintage antiquity kind of look. So we'll see what that means.

Copia. So let's get into that a little bit more. Copia, again, basic definition is abundance. So if chroma is the saturation level of color, then abundance would mean full saturation. I would think, right? So again, emphasis on things being fully saturated, fully animated, fully animated, full of life, right? Also, I wanted to bring up, there's this thing called chromophobia, which is the irrational fear or aversion to colors, and is usually a conditioned response.

So, chromophobia is the closest word you can find that exists to Tyler's made-up word of chromocopia, if it was a play on chromophobia, a big if, again. But this idea of being irrationally fearful of colors would play into this idea of Tyler or St. Chroma being this person that is ushering in or exposing these soldiers, I guess we see in the videos, to a more colorful world. So perhaps the soldiers are representative of chromophobia, which is colorless, thinking in the box and St. Crobo being the liberating force of color. Chromacopia being the opposite of chromophobia and perhaps Sankchroma being the force

that liberates these people out of their limited perspective. Okay, so that's enough theorizing on the title. I think the biggest thing is just this idea of the antique colors, the colorless aspect of the videos, and the switch to full color seems to tie directly into the album title in some way and likely the concept of the album. could apply to music and art like we talked about. It could apply specifically to his community, the black community. It could apply to just the world at large and people being obsessed with social media, celebrity, gossip, bullshit, not really living life to its full potential, its full color.

We'll see how it plays out, but that to me is very clear. This transition between colorless to color is a very clear motive on the album. So let's talk about the character. I think his name is St. Chroma. That's what the first track seems to imply. He's dressed in green military fatigues. He has a gold rope cord, kind of a decorative piece wrapped around one of his shoulders. And the military, those are used to signify a specific rank or position, I believe, a higher rank or position, which would make sense as the St. Chroma character is leading all these soldiers in every video. And also, of course, calling him Saint Chroma. Saint means a high degree of holiness. typically inspires worship or veneration and religions. And so again, this character is a leader of some sort, but he seems to be villainous, or at least his persona, is darker because we see Tyler's hair sculpted as if they're devil horns. The chromocopia title has devil horns on either side of the title's font. And so obviously this is more of like a dictator, kind of a maniacal leader,

a maniacal saint. It's not clear to me why he's a villain. If you're thinking theoretically about this transition from color or from color list to color and him being the liberating factor in that, you would think that could be played as a hero. But I guess he's also technically killing the soldiers that he puts in these shipping containers in the video. That seems symbolic of a transformation or a deadening of an old mindset. But I'm definitely not sure entirely why he's a villain. The noid video and the kind of theme of paranoid of Tyler being fearful of people always looking over his shoulder because he's famous, not being able to live anonymously, people always in his business. Perhaps he's been driven to madness, driven to be a villain because of his

public persona perception. I'm not sure. I don't know why he's a villain. That's definitely something I'll be listening for when I'm listening to the album next week. The uniform that he wears might just be generic kind of vintage looking army fatigues, but if you look at vintage, like from the 60s and 70s, if you look up like Zambia or Nigerian military outfits from that time, they do look similar to the one he's wearing. But again, all military fatigues kind of look the same. So I'm not sure if that's a direct correlation. But there's a lot of possible African influences that seem to be cropping up in certain places in the rollout, specifically. specifically on Noid. We'll talk about the musical elements in a second, but it could be a part of

this African influence. I'm not exactly sure. Also online, I've seen people comparing the way Tyler Tyler's hair is sculpted to, I think they must be older hairstyles from Nigeria because the photos themselves look antiquated, but some people are pointing to Tyler's hair as also being a possible African influence. And Tyler himself has talked in recent years about him, getting more in touch with his Nigerian side, emphasizing his real last name in a coma, among other things. So it would make sense that these influences are starting to show more outwardly in his music and his videos. So the whole entire look could be an influence there. We'll see. He's also wearing a mask, which is very interesting. Masks, of course, are very symbolic by nature.

So this ties into him maybe trying to stay anonymous and ties into this paranoid aspect. But the interesting thing about the mask is that the mask itself looks like Tyler. It looks like his face. It's the same color as his skin. It looks like similar nose, similar lips. It feels less like a disguise than your typical mask, right? It kind of blends into his face. I'm not exactly sure what that means.

But that is definitely something I'll be actively thinking about when I'm listening to the album if it ties in at all to the album's concept because the mask itself is very very interesting to me i did want to read a quote from an article that andre gie wrote for rolling stone he talked about the mask he said quote his veil could be fairly interpreted as a reference to the charade of modern celebrity the mask looks like tyler but it's a slight variation concocted to conceal his true identity the song title noid further hints to that world he's not the tyler or Konma that his family knows. He's whatever character someone imagines him as. So that's interesting take, I think, getting at this idea of our, of the public perception of celebrity,

not being who the person is, but a projection of our own feelings and thoughts that we kind of put on to these people, right? We don't know the real Tyler. And so the mask kind of looks like Tyler in the same way that we kind of know who he is, but not really. That could be a thing. We'll see. But overall, I think aesthetically, the character just looks fantastic. It's right up there with Igor's aesthetic to me in terms of the character itself. Everything from the hair to the suit to the pink tie. If you look closely on the lapel, it says Akonma across the left chest, I believe. It's just very well thought out, of course.

Aesthetically, very pleasing. It's going to be a great live character to perform as, I think. I can't wait to see the live show set up and backdrop and all the stage elements. it's going to be fantastic. But there is a very interesting Easter egg about this character because this is actually technically, maybe not the first time that we've seen St. Accomma. So we know that Tyler has a history of kind of easteragging his next album,

like sometimes years prior to that album's release. I think of the Igor outfit at the Grammys and he had a trunk and in the trunk was an Easter egg to call me if you get lost. And that happened at least a year prior to the album's release. And so if you look at the end up, the video for Sorry Not Sorry, the song that was on the deluxe version of Call Me If You Get Lost, which was released about a year after the original album was released. It came with, I think, four or five new songs, the most popular of which was Sorry Not Sorry, came with one of his

best videos. And in the very, very beginning of that video, the first scene, essentially the first thing you see as a man dressed in a green military suit with the same yellow core draped over the shoulder. We can't see his face, but he is the usher or kind of the greeter at the entrance of this exhibit that people are walking into. The first people that walk into the exhibit are a older man and a woman dressed in African clothing. He shakes the hand of someone in a green shirt, which may be intentional. It turns out that it's not actually Tyler in the suit. If you look very closely in the next scene when it switches to the actual exhibit, You see that guy walking across the stage, and it's not Tyler, but we do see essentially the uniform, the exact uniform for the St. Chroma character.

And this was released a year and a half ago, which tells me that he had this thing conceptualized in some fashion, and he left that as an intentional Easter egg for us to discover only now. In the same way that he hid something in the trunk at the Grammys that pointed to the next album, and we only realized it. after the fact, after the album came out and we're like, wow, he was conceptualizing it back then. And I think he's doing the same thing here. But what's interesting about it appearing in the song Sorry Not Sorry is that Sorry Not Sorry, if you recall, is Tyler essentially killing off all his prior characters from Bastard all the way to Call Me If You Get Lost. Lyrically, he's also talking about the pressures of fame, trying to live up to expectations, but also trying to be himself, his front. frustrations with the expectations. And to me, this relates directly to what he's talking about in annoyed. The same frustrations of being in the public eye, having expectations, people treating

you differently, the lack of anonymity, all these things seem to be present and sorry not sorry as well. And one of the main things that I came away from that video wondering was the direction of Tyler after this video and after Call Me if you get lost, specifically after seeing him kill off all these versions of Tyler the Creator. So one of the things I speculated publicly about at the time through a TikTok video was that this could be the end of Tyler the Creator and the beginning of Tyler Okonema. Tyler has talked about wanting to use his Nigerian last name more. He was never really satisfied with Tyler the Creator or something he came up with when he

was very young and it kind of just stuck. And him embracing Tyler Okonema was part of him getting more in touch with his Nigerian roots, which again, he has expressed in a few interviews that he wants to do more of going forward. In recent years, he has followed up with that on some level. A lot of the videos now, say, directed by Tyler O'Konema rather than Wolf Haley, which was his director's alias from way back when on his Instagram, I don't know if it's true anymore, but he did have Tyler Okonma on his Instagram handle. So based on those little things, his comments on his last name and him killing off past characters, perhaps a formal name change was something that he could

possibly do with this next project. Of course, we haven't seen any indication of that yet, aside from maybe Tyler or coma being on the lapel of the military uniform. But the reason I bring this up is because in the sorry not a sorry video, there's a moment in which we see Tyler rapping. He says, I'm so sorry to my ancestors. I know I'm supposed to fight, but this ice shine in brighter than a black man's plight, I'm gonna make it right. And during this moment in the song and the video, when he says, I'm sorry to my ancestors, when he says, I'm sorry to my ancestors, it shows the man and woman in the African clothing watching him. And then just a couple bars after that line, he says, I can't save these N-words. I'm not Superman,

but I could try. So that might tie in to what he's doing on this current album. Again, it would go back to him saying that he wants to get more in touch with his African roots, perhaps by embracing his name, perhaps by embracing more African influences musically, which we're going to talk about here in a second. But that's something I was reminded of after discovering the Easter egg in the video and him possibly pointing to this African influence that we're now seeing musically. I don't know about the name change thing, but we are definitely seeing the African influence in at least Noid. And in my mind, I'm thinking back to those lyrics,

I can't save these end words, I'm not Superman, but I could try saying sorry to his ancestors. And then this idea of colorless to color, Saint Croma leading the singophile line of black men and Sanchroma being the one to show them this world of color. It could be a thing. Thematically, it's just there's all these pieces that could connect in my mind at least as a possibility. Again, these are just things that I'll be personally listening for when we do get the full album next week.

But let's talk more about the African influence specifically on Noid. I don't know about you, but my ears definitely perked up when I first heard the African sample in a Tyler the Creator song. We have just never really heard anything. like that in a Tyler song before. So the language that we hear is what's called Chua, and the artist is this man, Paul Ngozi, who was the front man for a band called the Ngozi family, was like a 70s, a Zambia rock band. I'll talk a little bit more of that in the second, but when we translate what he says to

English, he says, when you come at my house, please be. be respectful because I don't like talking too much. Talking too much breeds gossip. So this works perfectly, thematically within the song, right? It's not just an aesthetic thing. You guys know I love this kind of stuff. The actual words, when translated, relate perfectly to everything Tyler's talking about about the public, being paranoid, people coming up to him, wanting to chat, wanting photos, not being respectful. He's speaking through this sample. It's not just an aesthetic thing, right again he's being very intentional with at least this sample but the sample source also feels intentional as well it comes from zambia paul nagozi and the ngozi family were kind of the preeminent

or one of the preeminent bands in a movement or a genre now known as zamrock so zamrock emerged in zambia essentially in the early 70s apparently what happened was american rock music was really popular worldwide. Zambia had gained independence from the British at this time, and the then president of Zambia basically wanted to celebrate Zambia's own culture as opposed to white Western culture. And so he, I don't know exactly how mandatory it was, but there was some kind of quota where radio stations had to play music from Zambia a certain percentage, like an overwhelming percentage of the music had to be from Zambia. So then this inspired Zambia musicians to start emulating or taking influence from

Western rock music. And so it created this genre called Zamrock. I did a little research and listening on this movement. It's really cool stuff. And the guys are like specifically Paul Nogosie who sampled. It's like a rock star. He looks like Jimmy Hendricks. He just has that kind of rock star frontman.

charisma. It's really cool stuff and particularly musically it's really interesting because it is rock influence but there's a lot more rhythmic interest which of course organically just happens in Africa they're known for these syncopated more complex rhythms particularly when compared to Western music and so you hear those influences in rock music in a very interesting way so just go Google Zamrock pull it up on Spotify or wherever and listen to some of it I think that's part of why Tyler is sampling these things is for people like us to go back to this movement that I think he probably thinks is really cool. Once you see Paul Nogosie, you'll be like, oh, yeah, he's fucking cool. And we can imagine Tyler thinking the same thing and drawing influence from him.

So I am very, very curious about how much of this influence specifically is going to be on the album or if this is more of a one-off for Noid. But I bring all this up, one, because it's cool. and there's the fun Easter eggs. But again, more African influence. That is one of the main things I'll be listening for on the album is how much of that is present, how much that is intentional and how it might relate, if it is there, thematically with what we're seeing with the St. Chroma figure, what we're seeing with the shipping containers, which I think human trafficking on,

but I'm not sure I haven't quite figured out what the shipping containers are for. Aside from transporting these people that get put into them, obviously that can conjure ideas of slave ships and with the with st. chroma being this maniacal figure might be a play on I don't know but you could see where things are a little bit blurry and might might kind of start to crystallize with the album so I'm very excited to look for all this stuff in the album just a few last things I wanted to touch on the album cover not going to go into this too much it shows the St. chroma character in the colorless kind of sepia tone and he has this kind of like static almost

like freeze frame pose going on with his handout some people were comparing this to david bowie's album cover for heroes i saw this theory in and audra gie's rolling stone article that i quoted earlier but essentially bowie's in i guess a similar position and it has a kind of mannequin look to it And Bowie said about that cover, it's supposed to indicate, quote, indicate a dimension of irony about the word heroes or about the whole concept of heroism. And so I think why Andre Gee was pointing this out was because of Noid specifically Tyler's possible play with the mask and the paranoia of being a public figure and our misconception of fame and of celebrity that might be a thing on the album. It certainly is something on Noid. And we have an album cover in Heroes that looks similar to, I wouldn't say it looks like a direct reference, but I can see where people are putting that connection together, especially with the themes behind the Heroes album cover.

And David Bowie being this artist that also transformed himself album by album with different characters, much like Tyler's doing. So we'll see if there's more evidence for that interpretation when the album comes, but that's something I wanted to put on your radar. I'll also just quickly address some other theories I've been seeing online. The feature theory was a big one when the first St. Chroma video came out and people were speculating that the line, the single file line of people that you see that are essentially just like playing black figures.

You can't really see their faces. They're dressed in all black. People are thinking that those were silhouettes of the features that were on the album. So they're saying, oh, this person's Daniel Caesar, who we see. hear in the actual song for that video. Some people are saying that's Kanye West or Frank Ocean. There's Farrell. There's Kendrick Lamar.

Definitely some of these were more convincing than others, I would say. Specifically the one that people are saying where Kendrick Lamar looks nothing like Kendrick Lamar and he never had his hair like that. So I don't know. I definitely don't buy it. I'm not excluding it not saying it couldn't be a thing. If I were betting, I would probably say no. But it's possible.

I don't know why they would be the ones that were being. put in the shipping container and exploding and then being colorless. That doesn't conceptually make sense to me, but again, maybe I'm thinking too analytically about this. I also don't know if Tyler would lead with the features. That doesn't really feel like him to me. I saw some people pointing to the World Tour announcement video and Little Yachti in Paris, Texas being pulled from the line of people as more evidence that those are

the features because there's actual artists that he pulls from the line. I guess I could definitely see someone putting that together. Again, I don't quite buy it, not yet at least, but obviously that's something we'll find out for sure though. There's also been this pink green theory that's been popping around, especially in the beginning of the rollout where people were saying that if you invert the green of the album cover, it results in pink, a pink that looks similar to the Igor solid pink of the Igor's album cover. And then they were using that as evidence that this chromocopia is Igor part two or some connection with Igor.

I don't know about that. Again, that's my personal opinion. I'm not really that excited or convinced about that theory. But we'll see. Also, technically the album is dropping on Frank Ocean's birthday. So October,

what is it? October 28th is Frank Ocean's birthday. Some people are respected. Frank's going to be on the album or blah, that seems just, I don't know. I mean, I just have a hard time believing Tyler would center his rollout around Frank's birthday specifically. It's a nice coincidence, of course, but I don't know.

I'm definitely not looking too far into that. But what is interesting and what is definitely a thing is that, so most of you guys listening know that Tyler has traditionally dropped every other year on odd years, one project, basically every two years since he started. And technically, I guess you can say he fulfilled that tradition with the Call Me If You Get Lost Deluxe, which was close to two years. It dropped in 2003, where CalMe dropped in 2021. But that was a deluxe.

I don't really count that as an official new release, so to speak. And so I'm excited by the fact that he took more time on this project. I think it's well deserved. I think the two-year thing was cool, but it's just arbitrary. And I want to hear the album that took him three years. And if the next album comes in four, great, because it's just going to be that much better. So I'm really excited to hear the three-year Tyler album, not the two-year Tyler album. Also, we should touch on the Monday release date, which is obviously breaking another tradition. And in St. Croma, there's a line specifically

about breaking tradition and not trying to impress dead people, which is essentially what tradition is. And so we get this really non-traditional release on Monday morning at 6 a.m. Eastern time. If you follow music accounts on social media, you probably already seen this. But Tyler in his interview with Nardwar had said that he misses when music was released on Tuesday morning, which is when in the CD area. That's when music was traditionally released. It switched to Fridays for streaming. It has something to do with billboard charts and placement, chart placement and stuff. but Tyler liked the idea or Tyler didn't like the fact that Friday releases essentially the album gets mixed up with your weekend and you're not actually sitting in it or sitting with it like you would on a Monday or Tuesday morning where you have the entire work week that little slower pace you have you have less events to go to etc and you can kind of live with it more throughout the week rather than it kind of blending in with your weekend. So we'll see how that experience is.

I'm actually pretty interested in experiencing that in real time because I haven't listened to a new album that I've been excited about and want to listen to on day one on a Monday. And I mean, it's been over, it's been since, you know, a CD release on a Tuesday. So I'm really excited to see how that works. I don't, none of us know if it's going to work like he imagines it might,

but I'm really excited that he's trying stuff like this. I mean, he is in a position of influence and power that he could do this. so we'll see how it goes i'm definitely interested in experiencing that and also hearing about your guys's experience with the album like i said i will be recording a first impressions episode with kandem oestrander friend of the show we'll probably record on wednesday and drop it on thursday i want to sit with the album at least for a few days it's definitely not going to be a formal analysis episode it's just going to be a first impressions conversation following up on some of these things

I'm going to be listening for and hopefully you'll be listening for now, seeing how much of that comes to fruition and really just giving our kind of fan first impression on what I think and would bet on being a pretty phenomenal album if this rollout is an indication of the quality of the music because everything we've heard in the snippets sound fantastic. The rollout itself has been extremely well execution. Tyler is just firing on all creative cylinders in every aspect of his output right now. And so I'm very excited for the album. I hope you are too.

I hope this illuminated some stuff to listen for, hopefully gave you some things to consider. Also, last thing I'll say is give some thought to how you're going to experience this album for the first time. You know, this is one of our generational artists. If you're listening to this, especially to this episode, you've got to be a huge Tyler fan. So if you haven't already, give some thought to how you're going to experience the album for the first time, try to set aside some time to just listen to it all the way through front to back.

You know, these events don't happen too much with these major artists. And so that first listen, you can't get it back. So what I traditionally do is go for a long drive and listen to the thing front to back in my car. But that usually is on a Thursday night release. And I love night driving and listening to music. That's one of my favorite things to do. But this one, I think I'm going to take a walk because it's Monday morning, probably you're not going to be able to drive as smoothly and uninterrupted as you can during the night, especially on a Monday morning traffic. So I think I'm going to take a walk in my neighborhood and just listen to it front to back and experience it that way. But yeah, give it some thought. You know, if you can, if you're able

to set aside the time and give it your full attention, that the experience is always so much better that way. Also, share with me at Dysect Podcast your feelings about the album. I'll probably create some official threads that we can kind of share some feedback on. I'll probably traditionally on a Tyler album. I'll start a thread about our favorite moments, since that's something I know he appreciates specifically, where we share the time codes of our favorite moments. He has looked at that thread traditionally too, so it gives extra incentive to participate there. So keep all that in mind. But first and foremost, let's enjoy this thing as we've been enjoying this rollout. Thank you for listening. I will talk to you next week. Chromocopia.

Here we come, baby. Let's go.