Dissect - Crowning Daft Punk's Best Song Ever

Episode Date: June 23, 2026

Part 2 of Cole and Charles journey to crown Daft Punk's best song of all time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome everyone to a special episode of Dysect. I'm your host Cole Kushna. Last week, we wrapped up our season on Daft Punk. Thank you for everyone that listened. Today's episode is part two of a special mini-series of a show I do with my friend Charles Holmes called Last Song Standing, where we crown an artist's greatest song of all time after debating our way through their entire catalog. In part one, a few weeks back, Charles and I covered homework and discovery.

And today we are back to hit Human After All, Alive 2007, and Random Access Memories, Charles. Yo. Great to see you in studio this time. In studio, it feels great. You know, we're cooking up some magic, some might say, with the official. What? Because this is, this is like a half season.

We're cooking up the full length album, you know? People have been fucking asking. I've been stopped on the street. You want to know what's funny. I'm getting stopped on the street for last song standing now. Oh, nice. Usually they're like, pew, pew, phew, midnight boys are like. I'm like, oh, midnight boys are.

And they're like, no, yo, what are you in cold? got cooking up last song standing who are the artist i'm like wait well okay we can actually reveal right here next season of last song standing is drum roll please say it with me Tyler the creator sorry you're ready for that wolf gang is the wolf guy sorry Tyler the creator next season of last song standing a week from today actually yes i'm super fucking excited little behind the scenes we just recorded episode one of the title season well But for y'all long, so you will have a lot to chew on in that first episode.

But let's get back to daft punk. Okay. Again, for people that don't know, we thank Charles for this season of daft punk of Dysect. He's the one that re-inspired on this very show, my love for daft punk. So we're here to conclude our last mini, many, many series of last song standing on daft punk. So at the end of this episode, we are going to crown the best daft punk song of all time. The greatest daft punk song ever. Homework. You picked defunct. What did I pick for homework? That was so long ago. DeFunk. I did pick DeFunk. Yes. I picked around the world. Yes. Discovery. Digital love. Some might say controversial choice face to face. Not controversial at all. Well, okay, let's talk to producer Justin, who was not here the last episode because we recorded remote. On the show, Justin, our producer, has a coaches challenge, which means that any song that we don't select,

off of any of the albums this season or this mini-series, he can come in and say, hey, guys, you guys missed this song, whatever it is. So is that something you wanted to do now, Justin? Are you going to save it until the very end of this episode?

You guys really did some bullshit without me around last time. We did. Damn, fuck out of here. Everybody's like, of course you're going to pick around the world. Of course you're going to pick harder, better, faster, stronger.

No, no, we're not. You mean one more time. you said around the world. One more time. Sorry, yes. Either way. No, we're not doing that. We're not doing that, y'all.

We're going with our hearts in this mini-season. I'll save it for the end because I don't want to derail it by talking about those two songs. We got some albums to jump into. I'll save it for the end, but we'll circle back. But I will be using my coaches challenge. Okay. Let's jump right into Human After All. Yes.

Datfung's most controversial album, their least critically acclaimed album, I'm curious, do you like this album? Human after all, I'm not saying it is their best album. It might be my favorite at this point. That's so, Charles. I love it, but. No, because here's the thing. I've been such a big fan of this season.

I have been listening with the fans. And I could hear some salt in your voice during the human after all. Not salt, but you've let the woke mind. for a cold consensus virus taint what is honestly their most underrated album and just a beautiful project. It is probably Discovery still has a warm place in my heart. I love

Ram. We're going to talk about that later. But human after all might be the Dapunk project that I return to most. Wow. Really? Okay. We'll make the case then. Because I like the project. I had to read, you know, I'm covered Dapf's entire career over one season. And so necessary cuts had to me made.

Yes. Human after all, I tried to honor the concept more than the individual songs, because that is the point in daft punk history where you can go, these robot characters are more than just a fun costume. Yeah. This is when they really started thinking conceptually about what the daft punk robots could mean and symbolize, and it starts on human after all.

And I also like, I like the idea of human after all in terms of like, It is a reaction to discovery. It is everything that discovery is not in terms of their approach, writing it and recording in six weeks, calling it a, what Tomas said, it's a stone unmarked, like a unsketched stone or whatever. That's what I love. When I read that quote, I was just like, I love that.

That's the art that I love. Like I know I usually use like Kanye as a, as a comparison point because it's kind of easy because his career, you can tell Kanye, uh, maps his career. off of other artists. And where do you go after my beautiful dark twisted fantasy? You go to a yes. Yeah. Where do you go after a discovery? You go with a with a human after all. And why I love this project so much is that I think we take for granted what discovery means now where you've talked about it on on the season where it's like discovery came out and it had big hits. It turned them into rock stars, pop stars. But even at the

the time, there was pushback. It was just like, what is, who are these guys who are singing like robots? This is cheesy. I'm hearing this everywhere. And I do love, it's the most interesting arc in any artist's career when they finally get everything that they want, quote unquote, they become the stars, the world, whether they accept them or reject them, the world is noticing you. And that feeling that is so human, no pun intended, which is what did I, like, what did I rock? Like what, like, what has this become? Because I think after discovery, and to me, I love that we're pairing human after

all with Alive and then RAM because I think all of those project in different ways are Tompawson guy kind of like really trying to figure out, okay, we're these superstars now, but where is the heart, where are the organs, where is the beating thing in us? Because that's the most important. We're not a gimmick. This isn't just people putting on costumes. How do we make music to reflect that? And I think because I'm in my 30s now, that's so much of what I think about is like, all right,

you build up all of these masks to survive in the world and become successful. But how can you make something unpolished? This is actually more true to your core and yourself. And you don't get a project like RAM without human after all. And I don't think you get like a Coachella performance if you don't get human after all. Yeah, we'll talk about the way, well, ironically, we talked about this with Tyler. So that people will hear that next week. But the way that Alive 2007 recontextualize the songs off human after all is insane.

It's insane. Is it like anyone that doubts the quality of the songs just needs to listen to them live. And it's like, it makes that. Without those songs, Alive 2007 is just not what it is. You can make a case that those songs glue that entire set together. They're the spine of the entire thing. I don't think it works without it. And you needed that necessary contrast of where you can see the clear connections between homework to discovery in terms of sound.

They exist in different worlds, but the overlap of the Venn diagram is much more than a discovery to human after all. And he just needed that contrast. And what I love about discovery to human after all is that they are very much interested in technology, what it means to be living amongst technology as it advances in the 21st century. And discovery was a more optimistic look at that relationship where human after all, they said, was more inspired by George Orwell in 1984. And it gave you the flip side of that coin. Yeah. And so in the same, I think the twisted fantasy to Yeez's comparison is very valid in that. It viewing them together as two sides of the same coin, you get this complete vision of, of the optimistic relationship between humans and technology and then the darker side.

And then, you know, obviously I talked a lot about this on the season, so I'm not spoiling it. But like, to have that then set up what they do on RAM is to me, I cannot overstate how brilliant RAM is conceptually in terms of like a punctuating statement on their career and what they said about humanity in the 21st century just by the decisions that they made to create the album with real humans. Like we'll get to that. But I mean, the career arc of these guys is just fucking incredible. Four albums and a couple live albums.

But man, I don't see it like what's a more perfect clean discography than. than daft punk. But even when you think about the thematic elements of their albums, I always love that to me they are never like overwrought. They're not over explaining anything. Exactly. It's almost like, because what I loved about listening to this season is like, I could intuit the story of the Alive set list,

but it wasn't until you actually like broke it down where I was just like, of course. And even when you look at something like homework, which is like these two French producers and DJs literally going back through their homework and being like, all right, what do we have to say about this and honoring it? Discovery being a synthesis of a childhood

and be like how it's very, and when I say like young in your career, I'm not talking about age all the time. I'm talking about like daft punk at Discovery was young as daft punk a creation. So to me, discovery is a synthesis of everything. It is baked into it. You broke it down so well in the season about like taking everything that they loved about their childhood from the cartoons to anime to rock music and

Perfectly making something that when you look back at it, you're just like how is this so perfect and then being getting a little bit farther in your career with human after all and being like What happens when we deconstruct it instead of synthesis? What happens if we just like take a couple elements and see what happens and then getting to Ram? Yeah. And ending on a perfect note of like it's everything about their career as da punk, but it has everything about the history of not only dance and electronic music, but popular music and punctuating it with, we always were humans and we always needed other humans. We always needed other people.

Yeah. It's just, it's magical. It's doing this. Yeah, it's insane. Okay, let's get into the nominations. All right. And after all. So we're going to just nominate one each on the project.

And then we're going to take these nominations at the end of the episode, joining the homework and discovery picks. We'll have a little mini Royal Rumble, and that's how it will decide the greatest daft punk song of all time. I'm very curious. I don't actually have one in my mind. Oh, God. That is a favorite. That's going to win the whole thing. So I'm very interested when we get there.

But first, human after all. Yep. nomination for you is. All right. In my heart, I wanted, this was like a new thing once I went back to the album. I believe the track is called Mick Love, which you don't seem to be a fan of. I like the song to be the nomination of this project, though. That's a little like hipster pick.

But I literally put the song on repeat. I could not stop listening to it. I love how just uncomplicated this record is, how unadorned it is. Are you picking it? I'm not picking it. I just want to shout it out. I guess it is my favorite in my heart, but I have to go with the song that I listened to before this the most, which is the title track, Human After All. Great pick.

Everything from the riff. Brabrop. Brabra. It's like a fucking bat out of hell. The lyric, like, human after all is just such a, it's a great name for a song. It's a great name for an album. To me, it is actually

in that one short phrase, in three words, Dap Punk gives you their mission statement for almost everything that they do. Yeah. Which is like, it is, I think that they are so smart that they get the inherent irony of two French producers who dress up as robots and sing through heavily processed vocals,

always trying to convince you that they're actually, human. And to me, the reason that I love this song, and it really did take until I was like, in my late 20s, early 30s to get this song is that just how discordant it is, how abrasive it is, I think it does speak to existence in the 21st century, where you are constantly fighting for your humanity. You are fighting for what it means. to just be human, that can be on a level of race, gender, sex, class. But if we're talking about in music, it can also be about what do we champion now? We're going to talk about this a lot.

You talked about it with Ram, but we're going to talk about it with Ram as well. What happens when two artists that, in my opinion, are so influential in the full pivot? to using computers and sins. And that being the basically the foundation of modern music, almost being scared by it. Almost being like, oh, what have we wrong? It's such an interesting idea where it's like they're not at the RAM place yet where they have,

they haven't done the TRONS sequel yet, they haven't done RAM yet. So they're not fully aware of like, how do we truly pull this idea off? It's half baked on. human after all, but you see it also in electroma, right, essentially ending in the same spot. And then I think the masterpiece of Alive 2007 is when they fully landed the plane, where they took you from beginning to end and created an actual arc, where then I think those

three pieces of art, human after all, electroma and Alive 2007, I see them as, you know, one, kind of one singular piece, all pointing to the same thing. And yeah, maybe human after all is a little underbaked in terms of that theme, it still comes through. And especially I don't even know if it's underbaked as much as I think the point of it is that it is pure emotion. Instead of it being so thought over and produced,

Discovery is very, very produced. Where it's like every single song, you can listen to it. There's a new nugget. There's something that you don't notice. There's a sample that you didn't realize was a sample. It is guys, being like, yo, look at everything that we can do.

Yeah. And with human after all, it's almost, and with the title track especially, I can feel the frustration of like, of making something like harder, better, faster, stronger, and feeling like, oh, this is being co-opted, maybe not by the wrong crowd, but almost people not understanding what they were doing. Because like, if you don't listen to homework, you don't actually get the sense that these two guys are students of this craft, you know? And I could see when I listen to human after all,

and I listen to like robot rock or all of these other songs, I feel like some of the aggression of the record is that aggression of like, man, we did it the right way. We studied the masters. We always pointed towards like who was the inspiration, who was the source code, no pun intended, and nobody cares. And to me, that is like the plight of the internet. That's the plight of da punk.

No matter how much homework you can. can do nobody gives a fuck. They just don't care. And when I listen to human after all, it always just puts me in, in this place where I'm like, okay, like as an artist, it's okay to be frustrated. Because if you're frustrated, that means you're human.

It means you're fighting for something. It means you're alive. So I just love this record. Beautiful. I'm going to go, it might be a normie pick, but I'm going robot rock. Really? Is it either robot rock or technologic?

You gotta go, Robot Rock. Robot Rock is interesting on this album because I thought forever that it was not a sample because it fits so seamlessly into this world that is otherwise there's no other samples on this record. I didn't realize until listening to your episode

that it was a sample. And it's not only a sample, it is a verbatim. Yes. Straight up, like, one of their most basic in terms of like, they really, I mean,

what I love about the song actually is that they let the sample, because the sample is perfect, they allow it to be perfect without feeling the pressure to manipulate it too much. And the little accentuations of the synth and things that they add to it,

never really pull you out of it out of the sample, which is, to me, speaks of the brilliance of Daft bunk where it's like they're in service of the song, not, they don't need to prove themselves with every record. You know what I mean? Like, they're okay with finding that sample and allowing it, recontextualizing it through repetition and accentuation,

but not overdoing it. when they understand this is already perfect. We have unearthed this artifact. We're going to represent it under our brand and our sound within this world. But yeah, we don't need to overdo it. And that's the right creative decision for this individual song. But don't you think that they perfect that on RAM as well where it's like RAM is almost deceptively simple?

Yeah. Where it's like they don't where on like homework and discovery, they do the very DJ. where sometimes they like push it and like part of it is how technical it is. And showing you like, look at everything that we're doing. Robot rock like, robot rock to me is a perfect example of like the latter half of their career of like older artists being like, we don't actually have to like show you. We have nothing to prove. We don't have anything to prove.

I love robot rock. Yeah. It's so good. That was also in the running for me. And a live version of it. Jesus. Okay. You don't need to believe.

labor, um, our picks, I don't think. Do we want to just move on? My alive pick, we want to jump right into live? Touch it, Technologic. Oh, okay, so you're going, we're still in the human after all. We're still in the human after all, but this is to me, dog, this is, I don't know if part of my reason for loving Technologic is because Pussarheim Sampton, in a, song that is truly god-awful he ruined it out that's trying to touch it I love this song

Watch it turn it leave it stuck for mad at Touch it bring it It's so bad That's not terrible Back that I love this song I don't What?

Is it that bad? It's not that bad No no it's not that bad I remember loving this as a kid and listening to it now I'm just like... So you're just embarrassed of your former self. You don't actually dislike the song.

You don't actually dislike the song. You're just... I'm never embarrassed of myself. I was listening to Fall Out Boy in 303. Okay. Great music. Fair enough. Love the drums in that song.

I love the way the drums switch up. I love the 8 oase and then it goes into the harder. I'm not my favorite Buster Rhyme song, but... Well, also, let's be clear. We don't give Busta Buz enough credit. I love Busta. For, like, actually having, like, a second wave of his career where it was like, this was at the point where he's like, y'all thought Buster Rhymes ain't having no more.

Come on, bro. I got it in the talk. I do want to ask Buster Rhymes, though. I wish we had his number. What is his favorite Dap Bunk song? Yeah. But I'm back to touch it Technologic. Why were you surprised that I picked this for the lot?

I love this one. I like it, too. I mean, I especially like when they get into the fuck it, fuck it, fuck it, fuck it, but like, not, I mean, what I love about Live 2007 is I love how aggressive it gets at times. Yes.

You know, you think of like the harder, better, faster around the world remix where they bring in that original synthesizer and it just gets fucking so grimy. And they reach climactic peaks that they're just not able to do on an album because you're combining so many elements of a song. You're also considering,

a crowd being there. And so you're really building up these moments and just mashing up songs for these, I mean, they have to keep outdoing themselves, which is part of the brilliance of the life of 2007, is an hour plus set where, you know, essentially that once you've figured out that they're mashing up songs,

how do you keep outdoing yourself? You know what I mean? And they continually do that. How do you marry every part of your career in a seamless way like that, that narratively and thematically works, but also works as a lot? Exactly. Because people aren't going to think like, oh, wow, they did a whole arc of robot to human.

Like in the moment, you're not thinking about that. You're just there to. But you can feel it. And to your point, I probably pick this because grimy is the perfect example, aggressive. I think I like grimy and aggressive Dapunk because I think the mode that they're the most popular at, Discovery Ram, seamless. Yeah. Just like chrome, like just shiny. Like, because they are such good producers, because they know how to sequence albums, because they know what a record needs, whether it's the singer, whether it's the how to modulate their voice, I, the reason I like human after all, the reason I love what they do on the alive version with Technologic is they kind of bring it back to that grimy core. These are rock. These are also like rock stars. These are guys who like love every part.

of music. And sometimes I'm just like, damn, I just want to feel like a sweaty body in a room my head to this shit. And I will not believe her to the point, but I love the part where they start glitching it out. Yeah. So sick. And I think they're doing a lot of that glitching live on the boards. If I'm not, because you've done, you've spent more time with these records recently than I have. Did you read anything about like how, how much they were able to do with the performance because it was so timed to all of the lights that were going on, the big pyramid or whatever? I remember reading that, like, they did not have as much freedom as you would think. No, yeah. But they built in a little. Yeah, exactly. The moments of spontaneity were

built in. So they'd be like, okay, at this part of the song, we have these effects that we'll do probably a little bit differently every time. But I mean, I think the thing that explains it the most was Tomah compared it to like a Broadway play where it's like you have a script. Yeah. The performance might be a little bit different every night slightly, but you're pretty much getting the same performance with some details that it might be different. But at that point, I don't know if the technology was quite there to do what they were doing

in a truly improvisatory way. Yeah. You know what I mean? They were using early versions of Ableton Live. No one had ever really synced light shows in that fashion. No one was using LED on that scale. So they were like figuring out all this shit on their own. So yeah, I don't really discredit them for not making those.

Oh, no, that wasn't a discredit. I'm surprised that they even built in moments. Oh, right. Where they could be just a little bit like. Well, that's the thing with like, it's funny. Like when I was doing some research, you kind of forget like when electronic music came out, like, people questioned, like, what producers were doing, especially on stage. Because some people actually do fake turning the knobs. You know what I mean?

Yes. To this day, people still fake that. I remember, did you ever see the family guy skit, uh, the little spoof of daft punk? Look at this old guy's your keyboard from the 1980s that I have found. Watch what happens when I push this demo button. Hello, daft punk. Great song. Here's a Grammy. Oh, ho! You know, it's funny. Until you spoke. I did not know we were French. As if all they do is like, yeah, push an old sample and that's the song, you know? I do think

that was the popular conception. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. And even what I want to shout out about the set, there's a lot of stuff going on with live music where just the bottom has like fallen out completely with a lot of artists. A lot of artists

in 2026 have had to like cancel their shows just because of low ticket sales. and all this shit. And I remember being in college when the EDM boom was going crazy. We're talking about Scrillex, Denmau, Avichy. And obviously, Ram, to me, was a kind of like their statement on that. But everybody took the Alive Pyramid and ran with it. And they did it in a way that wasn't honoring the fact that daft punk, like all of their music, built a world. It worked. they thought of this as a fully formed project.

And during the EDM craze, with technology improving at such a rapid pace, a lot of these shows, it would just be like lights for lights, explosions for explosions. It had, it was all aesthetics and there was nothing under it. It was just like a sugar rush.

And I think that happened across all of touring, whereas, like, there were good tours, you know what I mean? I think probably someone, who quite literally stole what Dapunk was doing was a Kanye. But he, let me take like the Jesus tour in the pyramid.

He was like, okay, it's not just enough to design a crazy stage. What is the story? I think with a lot of those EDM producers and everything that would come out of that, it just kind of watered down what Dapunk actually pulled off during that Coachella set. Yeah, I mean, that's the, I mean, We're jumping ahead a little bit, but I mean, that's really, like, they'll never say it in interviews, but you can tell they're kind of disgusted about what was happening with electronic. Yes. Yes.

And, I mean, I mean, Ram, if you really think about it, it is kind of a middle finger to all of that. You know what I mean? It is a very much a reaction to what is this thing that I love become, you know, like just the most water debt. Like, you know, you think of those how cheesy drops got so quickly. Yeah. where it was just like build, build, put a riser rising scent in there and then drop the beat. And it was just like, that's what electronic music became to a lot of people. And then you had pop musicians taking these formulas and then incorporating just terrible pop songs and melodies over terrible versions of electronic music.

And it just got gross really fast. And it's so funny that daft punk at almost every point in their career would be. do something that maybe even if the critics didn't understand what was going on or the world didn't understand what was going on, it would go on to be so influential and so popular, whatever they did next almost had to contend what they did before where it's like there's that push and pull on discovery to human after all. But then there's that there's that push and pull with a live to RAM where it's just like, oh, we maybe accidentally just changed live music for people took the wrong lessons.

Now we have to go. You know what I mean? They're like always being like, oh, fuck. We opened up. They opened up a can of worms without knowing that's what they were doing in the moment. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so let me give my pick to, so you might need to talk me through this because I have three potential choices. Robot rock intro.

So good. I mean, just the intro alone, robot, human, and then how they merge together. It's just fucking so sick. And then the drop. Talk about an actual effective drop. Yeah. Is nothing more perfect than when Robok Rock finally hits after these guys, you know, they kept the stage pretty much black. So you're kind of seeing like vague shape of a pyramid.

You vaguely see Tomon Gimon in the robots in the robot suits for the first time live, by the way. And then this huge buildup and just like what a most cathar. Like, that's in contention for the most cathartic beat drops, like, ever for me, is that, is the robot rock? It's so good. And then when they switch it to the, oh, yeah, beat. Yeah. Of a homework. When that drops it, brum, brum, brum, brum, brum, brum, brum, brum.

So sick. Okay, so that's in contention. Hard or better, faster, stronger. Live version with around the world is so fucking good. That original synth that they used to bridge that entire piece together. is so sick, the way that it goes from like just barely audible to like full on distortion. Yeah. So sick.

And then the other one I'm thinking about is the encore, where they mash up one more time. Music sounds better with you, together, the solo track for that Tomon did with DJ Falcon. And just like, because they didn't have that for the Coachella. And so to come back with arguably the strong, one of the strongest piece. of the entire set with an encore as a new addition post-Cochella. Like how many artists would actually build something so perfect as a Coachella set to then make it even better somehow with an encore? And what it means symbolically,

how it really like thread ties a perfect bow on the narrative of starting a robot, you know, the first half of the set being technological, harder, better, faster, really emphasizing technology. and then, you know, using one more time the first time it comes around as the bridge to the human, human part of the set, then to call back to one more time again at the encore, but mashed in a totally recontextualized with music sounds better with you. And combining all these songs with just the titles alone create this really powerful statement of unity, humanity, and reminding people in real time while they are experiencing live music together in a group setting, which I think is one of the most transcendic experiences you can have as a human being, is enjoying music together with other people live to symbolically make a statement of like this being a microcosm, the concert experience, being a microcosm of the human experience.

And somehow conveying all of that through mashups is just like, what the fuck? These guys are just like geniuses. And then you hear Tomas speak, it's like none of this is like when you go back to interviews, like none of this is like coincidental or arbitrary. Like these guys were thinking very actively about this. So I made out the case for three. Did I make their stronger case? Because I can take either of. So here's a thing.

If we're just trying to figure out when we go to the Royal Rumble, part of me thinks that you should pick harder, better, faster, stronger. So you can get it on the board because I can also make a case. one of their biggest songs. But after hearing you say all that, I'm just like, when I think about my life and I think about the happiest times listening to daft punk, I've usually been outside in the world listening to daft punk where it's like I've been at a party, I've been at a club, I've been shopping. It is like they make music where I'm like, even on the radio, I'm like, fuck. I'm outside.

I'm listening to daft punk and I think harder, better, faster, stronger. Not only is it one of the best moments from that set, but we get one of their biggest, biggest hits in there. You make a beautiful case. I'm going encore. I got to go to the encore, because you know what I just thought of to you?

Because if we're trying to represent a live 2007, what it means and what the pyramid ultimately means, the way that they saved that the pyramid itself, the panels on the pyramid could be to display full color, pictures and video. Yeah. Saving that moment for the, not using that capability until the very end of the show and putting human faces

of all races and ages on the pyramid over accompanying this mashup that is celebrating humanity. I got to pick it. I'm sorry. Go pick it. I don't even know, I don't even know what to call it because the title is like fucking five songs long. Encore. Encore.

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All right. Everybody will be dancing and we'll feeling it right. All right. All right. We are back to cover 2013's random access memories. Yes. Do you like this album?

Have a complicated relationship with this album. When it came out, the music was undeniable. Yeah. Loved it. Loved it. It was undeniable. There was a little bit of me because I was a little shit stir music critic trying to make a name where it's like, yo, fuck this shit. Fuck this Grammy bait-ass fucking album.

Of course, the artists go back to the source and respectable music that can finally win them all the awards after they've gone through all this. It was a very like I was being a pissy. I was being a little Tyler Creed. But then I listened to some of the albums, and the best way I can describe Ram, the parts of it that I love, you've already described how they're similar to homework, but in a different way,

where it's like instead of just nodding to all their heroes and where everything comes from, they are finally working with these people and they're working with humans. And it's no longer them alone in a room. It's them being like, hey, we can reach out to Rogers. We can reach out to Georgia. We can reach out to all these people.

The part of it that I love, though, that I think is under-discussed, and these are my favorite songs on the record, Instant Crush, lose yourself to dance and get lucky is what they do is they're also saying, we are going to actually reach out to the artists that defined the 2000s. Yeah, exactly. And that, to me, is so interesting because they take Faroe and they take. Julian Casablanca's. To me, say, I love the strokes. I love is this it. I get all of it. Guys, we're not going to get to strokes debate right now. But it's funny to me that like the strokes kind of represent like the last rock band through where that comes out at a time where I'm like, oh, rock music is on its way out and hip hop is just going to be the dominant force. It was already a dominant force. So it's interesting to me that daft punk is like, okay, we want to take

Julian who represents a certain thing in music and we want to use them in a specific way, but we also want to take someone like Farrell. And Farrell to me is, like is another producer, but also like a singer who represents where music had been going. So it is like Ram is not only contextualizing the history of dance music and electronic and pop music. It's also daf punk in a way almost putting a bow on an era that they helped

write. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I have a, well, I love this album when it came out. I love Get Lucky from day one, even though obviously it kind of got overplayed. There was a period where I didn't like it so much.

And then I've come kind of full circle on it now, especially after doing the season. I love this album now. It's incredible. I mean, even if the sonic, just the sound of it is not for you, I know it could kind of lean into like adult contemporary sounding at some, you know, sometimes, you know, a song like touch, which I now love,

but I can see people feeling like that sounds a little archaic. I mean, it's, it is a, I think it is objectively a masterpiece, whether you love it or not, the craftsmanship, just the sound that they were able to capture, the mix, You know, the details of the sonics are just so undeniably great. Conceptually, obviously, has so much importance of like a perfect bow thematically to the concept of daft punk and the robots. Obviously, you already mentioned working with real humans being a pretty firm statement. Specifically coming from them, I think what I loved about understanding more about their thematic arc or their career is that what better and more genius way

to use two robot characters that you probably didn't think this far ahead when you created them. But now that you have created these robots that are fused with humans, what a more powerful and beautiful message to convey as a robot to remind humans why they are special? Yeah. It's so genius. It's so simple, but so genius. You know what I mean? And to make an album like Ram where the robot is yearning to be human.

which then as a listener should remind you of the privilege it is to feel emotion. You know what I mean? And so just conceptually and thematically, this album is so brilliant to me. And then it just has like just moment after moment. Just think of just the iconic intro. So like imagine to bring yourself back to 2013, only hearing Good Lucky. you press play on this album and it's live musicians playing

kind of a rock riff that then kind of mellows out into this funk groove with real guitars and you're hearing Niall Rogers and it's like, what? I think we kind of take that for granted that you kind of alluded to it, but coming off of alive,

coming off of human after all, especially coming after human after all, this so dark, abrasive, at times chaotic album, to then be able to create a masterwork of studio craftsmanship is just like, it's so, it's so beautiful. So also when craftsmanship, not to be like an old man about it, but like was dying. Yeah.

I think like it's, it's so funny when you think about discovery, because discovery was still at a time where that's a hard record to make. And I am not talking about like, how do you come up? It's hard to come up with the ideas. That's the hardest part. but even just like programming. Right, exactly. And like just what it would take to put all that together.

And then very soon technology just like democratizes everything. So you're getting, and that time streaming is becoming more available in the internet. So as everything becomes quote unquote easier, we're assaulted with more music. And the thing that made dapp punk special or unique is no longer unique. Because when you think about discovery, it's the dawn of the internet. Very, very quickly, humans adapt. So we get Spotify or you get Napster. So we have all over, not all, but most of recorded history at our fingertips.

So everybody's starting to mash up songs. Everybody showing like, oh, you didn't think I was into this. Let me show you how this connects to this. So almost the only way for Daft Punk to send off their career is to be like, we're going to do what the hardest thing, what most people can. Yeah. And which we have never done before, by the way. They were learning on the fly somehow.

You know what I mean? Like they didn't, they never recorded in the studio. They never mixed, you know, I think on touch, they said they had over 200 tracks because of the orchestra and everything like that. So they're learning on the fly and obviously create a masterpiece while doing it. But I mean, to your point, I mean, yeah, it's like, it's kind of like what we're facing with AI right now, where it's like the temptation of AI. is so great because it makes so many things, quote, unquote, easy.

Yeah. In the same way that making music on a laptop, well, oh, all of a sudden, I can sequence an entire track on very easily by copying, pasting these parts together, rather than sequencing it manually on a drum machine, then sequencing a sampler. You know, there's all these steps that you just skip. But what people don't realize is that just like AI, when you're skipping the steps, you're also skipping opportunities for creation, for creativity. And so you're jumping from point A to point M rather than going through A, B, C, D, EFG.

And every time, every step is like, well, what if I did this? Or what if I did this? Or you know what I mean? Where you're forced into making decision after decision. We're on a laptop. It just became so easy. I fell victim to this too when I got a laptop where you're copying pasting or you're quantizing. Oh, I played a shitty performance.

Let me just quantize it real quick. Well, what does that do? You lose the humanity of all of a sudden, your performance is robotic. And there's no dynamics. There's no imperfections that make it sound alive and human. Even when you're sampling, it's like face to face is a great example of that where it's like, everybody can sample now. Sampling is quote of the easiest thing to do.

But the beauty of sampling when you listen to like a master do it is they're not just picking a great moment from the record. they're picking a moment where it's like, oh, I'm taking a second of this and I'm going on the downbeat and it's going to go like this. It's like, A, I can't do that. And I can like pull out the track. But it's like it's never going to have the human ear to be like, I'm actually going to pick out an imperfect part of this song. Right. And building something new around it.

So with that, with Ram, I'm going to go with the most normie pick. Okay. In my heart. Are you going to get lucky right here? I wanted to go with. Instant Crush, Julian Casablancas, I love his voice. Also, lose yourself to dance. I love more than Get Lucky.

Lose yourself to dance. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. I love both of those songs more, and I think they're better songs than Get Lucky. But when I return, Get Lucky has had the same arc for me as Ram as an album has had, where I was like, oh, Get Lucky is pretty good. Oh, Get Lucky is great. Oh, Get Lucky is overrated. It's one of the worst songs of all time.

I never want to hear it again. Oh, Get Lucky is actually perfect. It's perfect. It's like a perfect, perfect song. It really is. We're up all night to the sun. We're up all night to get some. We're up all night for a night to get lucky.

And what I love about having Farrell sing it, Farrell, we do not have to belabor this. He is a vibes singer. Right. He is not a technically perfect singer. Right. But the reason everybody keeps, I don't know how many, like probably early in his career,

Farrell probably sing, sang on some of these hooks expecting like maybe someone will come in here and do it. Yeah. But what you realize is because he's such a great producer, he just knows the vibe. And to me, get lucky, always felt like a karaoke version of a better song,

but then you realize, no, this is the great song. And the repetition is the point. Yeah. And to me, why I actually picked it is because I'm like, it's such a great capstone on their career. Because to me, it does what daft punk always did, which is they make something so hard, sound so effortless.

Get lucky sounds so stupid. It sounds like, I could make that. I could sing that. And then you break it down into its component parts. And you're like, no. This is really, really difficult to pull off. So it's not my favorite song off RAM, but to me, like, it's obvious why this became like the smash single. Well, it's a worthy hit song too.

It is a song that is that is humongous, but deserves to be that big. And I mean, talk about perfect endings to have your career. I mean, you kind of, I don't see Ram as Grammy bait. I don't, I don't see it as that either, but in that in the time, yeah. Because what it felt like in that moment, as someone who has little to no respect for the Grammys as an organization, historically or currently, at the time, it was like, oh, well, of course the Grammys is going to award RAM, but not discovery. Right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? That's how I felt in the moment.

Yeah, but I mean, just to have their biggest hit of their career come on their final album, that then goes on to win the most, or not prestigious, but the most, you know, you know, I'm over the year of the Grammys is kind of the biggest award. Yeah. In music. So I mean, and yeah, Get Lucky is one of those rare pop songs that deserve, is deserving of how big it became. Which to me is kind of rare for pop songs. A lot of the biggest songs kind of are just like, yeah, this could be cheesy. You know, a lot of times they're cheesy or just overly simplified or whatever.

Okay, so you get lucky. I could go a lot of directions. I want to shout out. contact. Okay. Conceptually is just, what are we fucking talking about, dude?

Ending your career on a song in which you literally ascend 2001 Space Odyssey style in which, like, in making it so vivid, I don't know how it is for you.

From day one, that song sounds like you are transcending time, space, you're just ascending into like liminal, eternal bliss. And how they,

how they somehow created that is just it's a masterpiece of a song not only that not only musically but also conceptually touch is a song that it absolutely grew on me through the dissecting it for the season it seems like it's a very special song to them and i 100% get why having paul williams come on this guy that they idolized since the phantom of the paradise their favorite film when they first met the film that they said was their foundation for their entire artistic career to have him come seeing this very special song. And then how it transitions to that second half with if love is the answer, hold on. So beautiful. But I think I got to go Giorgio by Marauder for my pick. My name is Giovanni Giorgio, but everybody calls me

Giorgio. I knew you were going to go with this and I usually would roast you, but after listening to you, this is a song that I would always skip when I was listening to the record. and then listening to you break it down and then it just recontextualize it and I follow him up with it. It's yeah. I mean, it's kind of same for me because you think it's kind of a skit because you're hearing some guy talk and like for the first half of the song it is kind of this story. But just so it's kind of reminds me of the scene in sinners where, you know, a lot of people, some people love it, some people hate it or think it's corny. but when, you know, that kind of fantasy sequence, when you see hip hop and funk and all these,

the history of music. Yes, I got murdered for not like that. I'm sure, yeah. It doesn't seem like something you would like, but essentially I can see people having the same issue with Georgia by Maroder, because they essentially trace, you know, the 20th century of music in one song,

or even further back, because it goes from electronic, you know, shouting out and paying homage to Georgia by Moro. and his work with Donna Summers as the origin point of electronic music. But then it moves into rock. It moves into hip-hop elements. It moves into a full-bone symphony and orchestra. And then somehow at the end, they're combining all these elements.

And it's like, yeah, maybe it does, is a few degrees away from being kind of corny sounding. But to me, they absolutely pull it off. I think it is a 100% masterpiece. And then symbolically, you know, the reason why they're doing it is that they're essentially honoring every popular genre in American history and using Georgia Maroder as, you know, a stand-in for all the innovators like a Farrell, like a Julian, you know, this entire, it kind of explains the entire album in one song and what they're doing. And then you think about how this ties back to homework and teachers, you know what I mean? Or even like,

something like face-to-face. Yeah. Where the reason, once you broke it down and I went back to it. What I also just, like, loved about this record is I was realized I'm like, oh, daft punk is a project about innocence where with AI now or even before just like Google, you have so much information at your fingertips that you think that you know everything. Or you can at least look at. Or you could. Yeah, yeah. where with Giorgio, with teachers with face to face, what I think artists like Dap Punk used to do is it might seem corny now, but they do what you do. They contextualize it. They're just like, hey, not only are we shouting out our teachers, we're going to show you how this part of a song that maybe you forgot, this five seconds is the most perfect five seconds ever.

And we're going to do that a hundred times. And the reason I'm so glad that you picked this is I'm like, yeah, I think we've maybe lost some of that innocence in music. We've lost some of that ability to contextualize. Because you can sample anything or interpolate anything and everybody, because we know so much. And I would say it's not just a music problem. It's like a movie problem. When I see a director and I see movies now, I'm like, I can tell you like Tarantino. And it's just like it's like a Xerox of a Xerox of a Xerox.

where you're just like, oh, you're influenced by stuff that you just have not even watched is just become part of the firm in it. And I just like, yeah, when I look to your point about like having like kind of like a perfect discography, I love that you're picking this also as like just kind of like an end point of their career being like, we're going to trace the beginning so we can kind of point towards a future that we would like to see. Beautiful. Yeah. Okay. All right, Cole, do you want to do you want to read for the audience? the songs that were taking into the Royal Rumble before we name Dat Punk's greatest song of all time. Yeah.

So recapping the list so far, we have defunct, digital love, human after all, touch it technological, get lucky. Those are your picks? Are you locking those in? No regrets? Let's lock in those in. My list around the world face-to-face, robot rock, 2007 Alive Encore and Georgia by Maroder. now we have to pivot to Justin, seeing the full list, where are we going with your coach's challenge? I don't know.

I almost don't want to use it. I get one, right? But I almost don't want to use it. It's like you can't take your timeouts with you to your grave. You may as well use them in a basketball game and a football game. There's nothing that's really jumping out. Well, look, there were two songs, and I think they're the two songs that you had pegged for me that you were almost assured that I was going to pick one of them, right?

Yeah. And it was one more time and harder, harder, better, faster, stronger. We might get shit for not taking Instant Crush, by the way. Instant Crush is a great song. It's not going to be the defining daft punk song. Yeah, I agree. I love that song. And also, like, lose yourself to dance.

Yeah, I love that song. Doing it right. There are a lot of great songs. This is a great group. Why not either of those? Why not one more time or harder, better? Yeah. I think you can make a case for either.

I would put my thumb on the scale for one more time. Just because that is their defining song, even if I wish it wasn't. Okay. I personally prefer harder, better, faster, stronger. I think that's a more fun song, I think, in the moment when it was like, when it was blowing up in that, like, reblowing up in that 2006, 2007 era that I was talking about, that kind of felt like maybe it was the one and that could have been Kanye. It could have been, you remember the video with the girls doing the hands? Oh, yeah. The early TikTokist style. That is some peak whiteness. That is some peak whiteness. However, it was a thing. Speaking of viral. YouTube moments.

One more time has kind of become like a generational thing. And I think it has to be one more time. So why can't that be the best daft punk song of all time?

No, no, no. If you pick one more time, I think I will argue for it hard. Like, harder, better, faster, stronger, my only problem with it, I think I said this on the previous episode.

I love the song in a vacuum. Kanye's stronger, I thought, was so cool in the moment, it has dinged harder, better, faster, stronger for me. It's just so played now that it's just hard for me to disconnect. All right. All right. Then let's just go one more time. All right. I think we can make a strong case for one more time. So is anything on the list, we got to take the easiest, easy dings out first. So anything standing out on the list

just jumps out. As, and I say this as someone who loves human after all, the album, I don't think any, either song can be in contention just because that's for the, that's for the, the daft heads. That's not for for the norbyes. I agree. And if we're sticking to our original premise of the show, which is if an alien landed on Earth and you can hand them one song to define daft punk, it can't really be anything off human after all, unfortunately. Okay, so let's eliminate human after all in robot rock. All right. All right. All. All, Homework, I think Defunk is the better song. I agree.

And I feel so bad for being ruthless, but like, can either song off homework really, really contend? I don't think so. I would say defunc could go farther than maybe you're giving it credit for. Around the world, I'll say as much as I love that song, there's, we have better songs to choose from. Well, defunct would be potentially in the top five for me. Maybe we keep it on the board. Let's keep it on the board. I'm okay with eliminating around the world.

Can I song off of Alive 2007 really be in contention? I say that and maybe just a quick, quick little sidebar here because what has changed from doing the season on Daft Punk, I think Alive 2007 is my favorite Daft Punk album. by rankings go 2007 alive 2007 discovery homework random access memories human after all what is yours discovery number one human after all a live ram homework homework's last wow yeah okay Justin, do you have one you want to share? I think I go Discovery, homework,

then, I don't know, I got random access memories at the bottom. I'm a lot lower than you guys on that one, but I go human after all. I'm just a little, like putting a live album in this discussion. I understand why it's important

in the context of the daft punk. Discography, but I'm just always a little iffy about putting live albums remix albums and something, you know? I agree with you, Cole, where it's like in a perfect world, I do think that

we should pick something off the lives. Because to me, like, Dapunk is as much of a product of electronic music and dance in terms of the context of this is music to be played and dance to. Like, the

underlying theme of so much of their music is the human connection and of what it means to be, out and listening to music together. Whether you were dancing, whether you're outside, whether it's whatever, like that's what they love.

The magazine journalist in me is just like, nigger, you can't pick a live album. It's just like, because there's too much explaining where it's like, it doesn't make sense unless you have some frame of reference

for the pyramid and what Coachella meant and what it meant for Daft Punk to perform there. And you could not explain that. We always like, if an alien came to Earth, what would be the one song? We would have to do a lot of explaining. Yeah, you can maybe show them the pyramid set and be like, this is Dapunk and they get it.

But plucking us in this last song standing exercise, the premise of the show. One song, I agree. Maybe it can't come off of a live. So let's just, for the sake of elimination, let's just go ahead and take those off the board. Now, if we're talking about RAM, I. It's tricky. It's tricky. I loved your dissection of Georgio.

The reason it can't go far is because it is a song, but it does not have all of the elements that make dapp on grade. Where it's like conceptually it does. It conceptually, thematically, narratively explains the entire arc of their career and of honestly modern music. But does it work as a song that you could play for a baby? No. Like, you know what I mean in the way that like any other dappunk, not any other, but a lot of dappunk songs,

a dog would enjoy this, a baby would enjoy this, a human would enjoy this, there is just something that works about it. I'll agree. I mean, as hard as it is to take off the board, I agree.

I think, whatever we choose has to be a song. Yeah, I think it's a little too conceptual for this exercise. So we have defunct, digital love, get lucky face to face and one more time fucking that's a fucking that the top five is fucking pretty amazing all right anything jumping up i think some people would say face to face is the

stand out here in terms of face to face is for the head it's not for the heads it's a huge song but before we kick that off i'm not saying kick it off i'm just saying i think we're looking at get rid of get lucky if i'm going to be honest i love get lucky as a song it can't be the one it's It can't be like there's no way. And I'm I mostly because I've already said this, I like instant crush better, I love lose yourself to dance. But just in terms of the project, I think the modern parts of that project, those three songs, get lucky is the best representation,

but there's no way I'm picking it as dapp punks. And I do think, I think we have to kick face to face and defunc off. To funk, I'm almost more fine with face to face. face, dude. All right, we'll keep face to face there. We'll keep face to face there. The funk banger. Love it. It just can't. It just. It's a little too primitive. If we're trying to be representative of daft punk, I mean, to me, maybe this is just too technical thinking, like the song that where they use,

like, a bunch of pre-made samples that come off of sample packs, I'm just like, that's not daft. I mean, it is, but, you know, it shows their brilliance of making something great out of something that anyone could have access to, but also. So you have digital love one more time. Still on the board. Yeah. Anything jumping out to you as the strongest? I'll put to you this way.

From here on out, I'm putting my foot down for digital love. Over one more time. Yes. Okay, make the case for that because I think I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm, I'm thinking I need to go at bat for face to face. It might be the head to fucking deep cut pick. We're talking about Daft Punk's greatest song. Face to face is a masterpiece.

It is one of the highest achievements of the art of sampling. It's got a great message, great meaning to the track. Oh, I love face to face. So before, all right, let's go to, um, one more time. one more time. Their biggest song, the song they are known for. Is it,

is it bigger than Get Lucky? I guess maybe it's age. I think Get Lucky is probably their biggest song now from like a streaming in sales, but I actually think. Legacy wise. Legacy wise and what more people actually probably know. Yeah.

It's that. One more time is perfect, but it's, it is the Normy pick. I don't even know if it's, I think harder, better, faster, stronger.

It's better than, one more time. I think face to face, digital love. I think aerodynamic is better. Like, I know it's their biggest song. And if we were fucking Rolling Stone

or Billboard, we would just pick it as number one so people wouldn't get fucking mad at us. But there's a reason we did not pick it in the episode. It just doesn't. Yeah. There's something about it that's missing for me. It's a perfect song.

Yeah, yeah. As a representative song of daft punk, it doesn't feel. like it could be it. Although it is brilliant, the sample flip is fucking brilliant. Whoa. We are, we are right now we're arguing like if ever,

if nothing can be perfect, these are, to me, it is the difference between like a 99.7 and a point eight and a point. Is really where we're getting at. Having Romantany on their biggest song is so fucking cool to me also. I think we have to just kick it off just because it's like, neither it's

it's the no it's just it's it even when I go back to discovery I'm like oh this song bangs but it's not the highest high of that record I yeah okay one more time it's gone so we're now face to face with digital love

make the case for digital love there is a there is a lot we we've talked you've talked about it brilliantly across the entire season on this little mini season of Last Song Standing, we've talked about everything that Da Punk has meant to the world, everything that their project is met thematically. And I think if you like go down the layers

and you just take off like the academic part, what is their music about? Their music is about love. And it's not lost on me that sitting in 2026 and just seeing how bad. everything has gotten and seeing how technology has been twisted and growing up where I thought, oh, like, I was that person. I was like the internet, social media, all of these things. I have access. So much of what I love about art I found sitting on a computer being like, in no other error would I've been able to find this.

And for as bad as everything has got when I listen to digital love, it contains everything. thing about daft punk that's so special to me, which is like at the end of the day, you can have as many samples as you want. You can modulate your voices as much as you want. You can do all of this. You can have the best records and have the best taste and have the best drops or whatever. But the thing that we love about music is connection. We love, love. When I listen to digital of, it just reminds me of like being a kid and not being able to understand why a song was hitting me, but it was hitting me because I'm like songs does not like, it transcends language. It transcends.

There's just something in your brain. It's why it's still my favorite art form because it's like with movies, there still is a barrier. With television, there still is a barrier. With music, there is no barrier. A song either hits you or it doesn't. And I don't know if you could play digital love for anyone on this world. And it might not be their favorite song, but they could understand them like, oh, those artists believe in love.

They believe in connection. They believe that we are, while technology can help, we are more than technology. Yeah. It's just the beating heart of their career for me. Yeah, hard to argue that I 100% agree. I think understanding them more through the season and reading more interviews about them, emotion was so important to them, which is ironic because they're robots, right? But capturing emotion specifically was like,

I mean, they have a song called Emotion on Human After All was so important to them where it's like, yeah, the technology just became another tool to capture emotion and sound. And I think digital love, maybe more than any other song of theirs, captures, yeah, I mean, it's just trying to put it in words, you can't because what it is doing is exactly what music should do, which is capturing something that is,

you can't capture it with words. I mean, you just think of, I mean, if we're trying to just be technical about it, too, I think it checks every box. Perfect sample?

Yes. A catchy verse, chorus, you know, something that you'd want to sing along to, remember, you know, memorability has that.

Innovation, 100%. Like, to me, what takes this song to the next level is the guitar, solo outro. Yeah. Where it's like perfect pop song, you know, atypical, but still a pop song for,

you know, halfway through. And then it just flips. And all of a sudden this guitar comes in, which to me is representing the love itself and just puts on this spectacular fireworks show and sound. And you realize not only is it perfectly composed as a solo, you also cannot tell if it's a guitar or a synthesizer. So you're hearing a sound that sounds familiar, but you've actually never heard it before, or at least not that version of it, where it's like, still to this day,

people debate if it's a guitar or a synthesizer. You know what I mean? Which is so cool. And so you're talking about virtuosic display of musicianship, paired with innovation and sound, paired with perfect pop structure, paired with perfect sample, paired with capturing an emotion.

It's like, what other boxes can you fucking check in one song? I mean, it's also, it's like, as we're all scared of like AI and what it means for creativity, and sometimes when I'm like I get that anxiety, it songs like digital level. I'm like,

right. My motherfucker. AI can never create that. Like that's the irony of their entire career. A robot could not make this. Where it's just like, they're using the artifice of something that we understand to speak to something very human, which is like part of the human condition is that none of us feel human. For a variety of reasons,

there's something that is an invisible barrier that makes it hard to connect. Yeah. And music as an art form is something that completely breaks that down. Yeah. It is like it is the symbol of love. It is like, we don't understand what love is for since the beginning of time. whether it's been through books or plays or whatever we've always been trying to really understand what is it about love that we can't understand after hundreds and hundreds of years and i just like what better song of the 21st century uses technology just even the just even the title of digital love the contrast there is just like i mean that's human after all ironically being said through digital digitized voices It's that juxtaposition. It's that contrast of digital love. What better way to capture the human experience of the 21st century than those two words? You know what I mean?

And how can you make something that is like when you hear digital love, you're expecting something that is so cold and so abrasive and so emotionless? And it's arguably the most emotional song of their career, which is also the, they're funny guys where they're just like. Let's put one more time first on the album. I think we both know what we're going to make. unless you want to argue face to face to face to face to face it technically it's yeah it's like brilliant it's i just I wanted it to go far just to put any any skeptics about that song we get it's a fucking perfect great song because I think that was the song

that kind of unlocked da punk for you just as an adult realized like oh fuck look at it was it was one of the many like oh shit moments of that's that's what I do dissect for is like is the oh shit moment of the guitar solo is the oh shit moment of face to face and realizing what they're doing it's the oh shit moment of a live 2007 set

being a narrative that moves from robot to human from technology to humanity and there's so many of those moments this season even with a song like touch and you realize I don't think of that episodes out yet so you haven't heard it but touch is like they said it's the song that

all the other memories of random access memories orbits around. And then you realize, oh, it's in the exact middle of the track list. And oh, touch is split perfectly in half to the fucking second. And you can analyze the first half and the contrast between that and the outro. It's just like so many oh shit moments, probably arguably in the running for the most oh shit moments of in a single season of dissect. So I'm 100% happy with landing with digital love.

I think it's the right choice. It's the choice that was in my heart from the start. But I'm glad we talked it out. I'm glad we talked it out, man. I'm like this season was a gift to me. I'm sorry. All the other fans were like, it's Charles's fault. But like, nah, man, Dap Punk.

This is listening to the episodes. You fucking killed it, bro. Like, I love it. Justin, are we crazy? Daph is, no, this is a good one. Okay. This is the, this is a good call. It's probably the right call.

You know, fans can sound off if you got it wrong. Sound off in the comments section below. No, hell no. They're going to kill us. They're like, it was get lucky. It was instant rush. Oh, hey, that's the mark of a great discography. Is that?

Oh, yeah. There's somebody to love. I'm fucking happiest shit. But yo, before we go, let's plug again. Guys, we're back. Next week. The fucking bastards of the ringer. Come into you fucking live.

fucking last song standing. You feeling good? I'm very excited. I'm glad I'm here in the studio with you. We're going to try to do everyone in the studio this season. And do we, the first episode, double?

Doublehead or bastard goblin? So come take the journey with us. Hell yeah.