Dissect - The 21st Century Song Draft
Episode Date: December 2, 2025The LSS crew is back with a year-end draft to celebrate the quarter-century mark in music. Cole, Charles, and Justin draft songs across five different categories: Best Song, Worst Song, One-Hit Wonde...r, Moment Maker, and Personal Favorite. Who won the draft? Hit the comments and let us know. Hosts: Cole Cuchna and Charles Holmes Producer: Justin Sayles Video Producer: Kevin Pooler Engineer: Kayla Talley Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I'm going to go with Worst Song.
Okay.
And I'm sorry I had to do it to him.
he's a legend
okay
wow
is the one of the worst
is the worst song
of the 21st century
when that song comes on
I'm in a bad movie now
it's a kid's song
it's a kid's a kid's movie
like fuck the kids
welcome everyone to a special episode
of Dissect I'm your host
Cole Kushna and today
we are doing a very special
year end
21st century song draft
with the LWS crew
Charles is in the building
What's up?
How you doing, my man?
IRL.
It's always a joy to see you.
But what I want to say, I want to say a special shout out because this is the first time of reuniting after the season.
You know, and people gave us love.
Like, we were very nervous behind the scenes.
We're like, we're changing it up a little bit.
We're doing something different.
I felt it.
I felt also some of the hate, but that's cool too.
You got to roll with the punches.
After the season, how do you feel like we did with some time?
Yeah.
I feel like actually, yeah, the general reception was great.
This is kind of like a sequel to our 24-so.
People that aren't familiar, we did a eight-episode series
trying to figure out what the best album of the 21st century so far.
Today we're going to do a 21st century song draft.
And we also have Justin Sales.
Producer Justin will be joining us for the draft.
How are you doing Justin?
I'm doing okay, but I'm struggling to figure out where this love came from
because anytime somebody's like, hey, check what this ain't about you in the YouTube comments.
I'm like, why are you going to send that to me?
Here's the thing.
Sometimes I'll be scrolling through the YouTube comments and I'm like,
damn, they cook me on this one.
I'm like, shit.
Real, recognize real.
But what I'm just happy about is I'm not here to be the tiebreaker this time.
I'm just here to mess this up on my own.
Okay, should we reveal the categories for today's draft?
Yes.
Okay, so we're going to draft from six categories.
The categories are number one hit song.
So I had to chart on the Billboard 200, number one, for at least one week.
best song slash most important song
kind of however you want to take that
worst song. Yep, that's easy. I'm going to get
I'm getting spicy on this one. Okay. I do have a trigger song
that might trigger you Charles specifically. One hit wonder
which is I'm actually very excited about. Same.
And personal favorite. So it's kind of a wild card. Pick
whatever you want personal favorite. So to
draft order, Justin is going to spin
a digital wheel?
This is the instrument
that has helped
so many ringer drafts.
It is wheelofnames.com.
I'm going to,
I have our names
all pulled up in this
and okay.
Do you have a draft order
preference? Do you like going first?
I either like going first
or I like going to last.
You want to get the turn,
right? Because we do the snake draft style,
right? You know, you get first pick,
second pick, third pick,
but then third pick
goes first at the top of the next round.
So you want to get the corner.
And all right.
So, oh, wow.
This is crazy.
It came up right on the line of me and Charles.
But the computer is telling me the computer that I just praised.
I never said anything bad about the computers.
I want to go on the record as saying that I'm the winner and I get the first pick.
All right?
Okay.
Okay.
Pick number two.
Charles, you're not going to like this.
This is you.
It's fine.
You know what? I've had to come back from worse that this is. You know what I'm saying? I'm fine.
I'm kind of nervous, though. I got third. I mean, it's good, but okay. All right, first pick in the 21st century song draft. So just to make it clear, these are songs from the year 2000 to 2020. So we are counting the year 2000, right? I thought we were. Yeah. All right. Oh, yeah.
Even though technically, so we don't get the comment, the 21st century starts at 2001. But only nerds say that.
Only nerd say that.
Okay.
So I have the first pick.
Yep.
I'm going to go with the number one song, and I'm not going to go nostalgic.
I'm going to stick with the spirit of dissect, and I'm going to go not like us.
Fuck you, dude.
This is crazy.
They're not like us.
They not like us.
They not like us.
They not like us.
They not like us.
You think the bag going to let you disrespect pop nickel.
I think they're open.
This is kind of.
This is actually, this is bad.
We should start over.
drafting not like us is it should get you disqualify.
Why?
This early?
This early is like,
like,
well, Justin knows his audience and he's playing the game already.
I forgot how competitive you two are.
This is,
this is ugly.
I'm going, we're not like us.
For the number one hit, too?
For number one hit.
Not even best moment?
Not even best moment.
I got other stuff for best moment.
I'm going number one hit.
And I'm picking not,
well, okay.
First of all, I want to say this about number one song.
shocked that a lot of songs didn't hit number one, right?
Like, get lucky, not number one.
Even something like Britney Spears Toxic, not number one.
A lot of songs that were everywhere that you thought would have did not hit number one.
I went over the list of number one singles again and again and again.
And I just, there were three songs, four songs that I think I would have been five tops
that I would have been really comfortable with.
But knowing my audience, knowing where we are.
going not like us.
I hate this.
We don't got to put too much on that.
We just all know how I feel about it.
It shouldn't be allowed.
It's cowardly, but it's my pick now.
So I'm getting spicy.
Fuck it.
You know?
I'm super excited.
I'm going best,
most important song.
Okay.
And I'm picking,
I'm picking a cursed object,
but I'm picking it for a reason
because I feel like not only this song
break my brain,
and it's one of my favorite songs
of the 21st century,
I think it represents arguably the most important, controversial, idiotic artist of the 21st century.
I'm going Connie We as a runaway.
Best song.
This is having toast for the douchebags.
But I was like, all right, you guys, I want to win the draft.
I was thinking about what Kanye song.
Like, I was like, do I pick a Kanye song?
If I'm going to pick one, why would I pick it?
And I think Runaway is the moment where I'm like, everything shifts, not only in the 21st century, but everything shifts in popular music.
Where I'm like, I think Kanye realized that, to your point earlier, we're going to know way too much about artists.
And it's not actually like, we're getting to the point.
where the currency is being an asshole.
The currency is just getting as much attention as you want.
And blowing everything up and appealing to critics and Twitter and online fodder and blogs.
And when I go back and I think about Runaway, I'm just like, okay, it's not the biggest song of the 21st century.
But I could play it for an, it's the thing we always say.
I could play it for an alien.
They'd be like, who is this guy?
Wait, who's push a T?
Wait, why is there a vocoder?
outro. Yeah, you can tell the story of
I mean, it is actually the perfect song to immortalize
Kanye West. I mean,
have a toast for the douchebags.
It showcases musical genius.
It gives you a window
into his personality.
The whole entire outro, being
this beautiful instrumental that no one else
has ever done, shows you
the musical innovation that he brought
to the 21st century. So it is kind of
a perfect song if you're going to try to represent
Kanye West in the 21st
century, but it's also
fucking pick two.
I know it's strategy because you're trying to get the big
songs. I get the strategy here.
Fuck it. I've been at this place too long. I didn't come
here to play fair. I'm in the middle position.
Like I got a pathway to victory.
Where you going, Cole?
Cole, but like what's your issue with picking
not like us and runaway? Two songs that you've covered
a lot. Yes. It's just too much. It's just too early.
Too early? Oh, wait. Are you just mad because you couldn't pick them?
Yes.
Welcome to the ranger, bro.
We drafted.
And it's also a little like on the nose,
but I get the strategy.
In terms of like this podcast, right?
We've talked about these songs a lot.
It's got to get more interesting as we go on, I think.
I would have picked Runaway for Best Moment.
That's, it was number one on my best moment.
It was number one on my best moment too.
Yeah.
And we should just cover that briefly for anyone that doesn't know,
the VMA's runaway.
Debut performance of Runaway being this cultural moment
at a critical time in his life.
And I think his career goes totally different if that moment goes differently.
And the 21st century of music certainly goes way differently if Kanye's never able to recover from that moment.
Exactly.
And I think everybody has been, I think him running up on stage for Taylor Swift, everything that happened after, him going back to the VMAs, very weirdly gave artists a template for the shenan
that they would have to pull where it's like I do think that there is a clear line between like push a T showing up on stage you know and push a T dizzying Drake and not like us in just in terms of just like yeah everybody realized the spectacle had to keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger right yeah okay so pick number three for me this is interesting because the two I mean I was playing the same strategy because if I got the first pick
I was going to pick a Kedric song, and if I got the second pick, I was going to pick runaway.
So let me see what other ones that you guys might pick.
I think...
We're in his head already, Charles.
Yeah, man, this is...
The lights are too bright, call?
Well, I'm not competitive, you guys.
You guys bring this toxic environment to my pure podcast and that I got to play along here.
So, okay, so...
Okay, fuck it.
I'm going to make things interesting.
I'm going to go with my number one hit.
Oh, you know what?
Oh, fuck, this is even tough too.
Could I lay out two options for you?
Just to make it interesting?
Is there a chance that one of the options gets picked for something else?
If not, are you going to spoil a future?
I guess I'm only in competition with Charles with this pick.
Okay.
Because you already did your number one.
Okay.
How big of a Carly Ray Jepson fan are you?
Ah, you can't have that.
You can have that.
Well, they inspire my strategies.
because my second one.
Carly Ray jumped.
Call me maybe?
Fine.
It's a fine song.
I like it.
I like it.
It's,
there's better pop songs.
It's between call me maybe.
Okay,
I'm just going to do it.
No,
you know what?
No,
I'm not going to do it.
Because I might need that.
See,
fuck you guys.
Cole is too early to be,
it's being ahead like this.
Go with your heart.
I'm thinking ahead.
I'm trying to think ahead.
I'm going to go irreplaceable by Beyonce.
All right.
All right.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Interesting.
I thought you'd be stoked.
Not even on my board.
Really?
Not even on my board.
To the left, to the left.
There's better Beyonce songs.
At number one.
Okay, maybe I have a personal place in my heart for this song.
Wait, did it, did it touch you at a certain time in light?
Like, what were you going on?
When your place was out, what were you going through?
It was the anomaly because this is 2007.
In rainbows comes out in 2007.
this is a time of justice and killers.
This is a very pivotal time in my musical life.
Like, you know, might be the prime of my musical life in terms of like me coming of age and everything.
But this song in particular, I remember, was my most played song on iTunes in 2007.
Despite all those other albums.
Are you being serious?
I'm being serious.
I fucking love this song.
You just know about me.
It's so good.
What?
Did you guys know that Nia wrote this song?
Yes.
supposed to be a country
a country song first.
I did not know this
until I researched this episode
but
Cole.
I thought you'd be
I thought you'd have my back
on this pet.
No,
no,
I like it.
It just wasn't on my board.
Here's the thing.
Before Neo got,
we're going to have to say
this about like half the artist.
Before Neo got problematic.
He has.
There was,
I'll be honest.
There was one list.
I think it was a pitchwork list
and I was curling down.
And Ignition Remix was very hard.
I know the same thing.
And I was like,
Like, huh, there's an alternate universe where we are drafting that.
And thank God we don't live in that universe.
Yeah, I was just like, there are a couple artists on it.
I was like, oh, okay.
Yeah, a different time.
Is this a crazy pick, Justin?
Am I already regretting it?
Am I not good at drafting?
Fuck.
No, no, no.
You're doing good.
I had another Beyonce song potentially listed as my number one pick, and it wasn't this.
Okay.
All right.
Shout out, call me maybe, though.
All right, what's your, what's your,
Oh, I'm number, okay, I'm number three.
Okay.
You could pick call me maybe for best song if you'd like.
No, thank you.
I don't think you guys will pick this, but I'm just going to do me at this point.
I'm going to go with my one-hit wonder.
Okay.
I'm going to go with the best song Future Never Wrote.
I'm going to go with Futures AI generated artist and single.
You know where I'm going with this?
I do.
I'm going designers panda.
Wow.
I got broads in the line
Trisha dobleenish
Super final
Credit cards and the scams
Wake up for sagis shit
Let's the last time
I'll be gladyshi
I'd be putting
enough up in the flannel
shit
I got plenty of yourself
Just a good
Just a great song
Benna
When's the last time?
Okay let me just
Let me just play you guys
A snippet
When's the last time you guys
Did you listen to this song
In preparation?
I listened to
I was much
than you think I would listen
I
What's the kid is
I understand
I got broads in an an an an an an
I got broads in a nanny
Yeah
Credit cards and the
This song's so good.
Great song.
Panda.
And the ad libs?
I mean, it's like kind of a perfect song.
It's not only a perfect song.
Can I pitch you on something?
Okay.
We all went to the vista to see one battle after another great experience.
In that, Shake West Moamba.
Yo.
Oh.
That was going to be my one hit wonder.
I'm just saying, if you were going to replace that song in the movie with Panda,
it would be just as, can you imagine if you were saying it up the table?
band it just comes on.
I have other one-hit wonders, but you can't spoil it.
All right, you know what?
Now I'm going to take Justin's song away from him, and I'm going to pick him in one-hit wonder.
Just kidding.
It's not part of my strategy.
All right, I got, you know what?
I'm going to go with worst song.
And I'm sorry I had to do it to him.
He's a legend.
He's an OG.
He showed us this year.
he produced one of the best albums this year.
Oh no.
Farrell song?
Happy by Farrell Williams.
Wow.
Is the one of the worst,
is the worst song of the 21st century.
When that song comes on,
I'm in a bad mood now.
Yeah, like, y'all don't,
y'all hear me though.
This is so, Charles.
Were you in time?
Because I'm happy.
I'm like, nigga, shut the fuck.
I hate that.
Wow.
I hate that song.
It's, right.
It's like literally just happy
and you know a clap your hands,
just updated.
it's it's really truly
it's a kid's song it's on a
it's a kid's movie like
fuck the kids
no like here's the thing have you watched that
video recently where Tyler the creator
and Earl the sweatshirt are like snapping in the
street I'm like nah bro
get this at it I thought you would be
more supportive you like happy
yeah who doesn't like happy
all right man is it because it was overplayed
it was never fire
honestly if we wanted to get really
cursed I was going to
pick another
another song
Blurred Lines
Blurred Lines is not
the worst song
but it's the most
cursed
We should have
had a most cursed
category
because once again
I saw one of them
Liz blurred lines
was on there
I was like
Yeah, bad song
Bad song
Curst song
I never actually
like that song
I was looking at
some
I can't remember
exactly where it was
It was like
in the top five
of the century
in terms of
selling
just kind of crazy
It's like
for a pop song
It's fine
It's fine
It's fine. It's got the Marvin Gay, obviously, but you know, you have the lawsuit. You got, you got T.I. You got the, like, when you actually start to look at the lyrics. It's just a very cursed song. But yes, like I said, I'm going with Happy. I'm sorry, Farrell. You were an OG. I'm glad everybody likes this. This is just a, it's like such a Charles the cynic pick. The fucking song that's supposed to make, that makes you feel warm. It's related to children and like purity and happiness is the one of your worst song.
Yep. Nah, this is actually, yeah.
we are our truest selves on this track.
All right, Justin, where are you going?
I'm also going to stick in worse song.
And maybe I don't need to because there are just so many options,
but I just want to get it out of the way.
And I'm happy to run through all these decisions.
Like, I had Taiga songs on here.
I had several M&M songs listed.
If you picked Rack City, I might fight you.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's not real.
Rack City's great.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not picking Tyga.
I'm saying my list was very long.
We'll run through it later.
I'm going with the actual worst song of the century,
and it's also a number one hit,
was rude by magic.
Oh, yeah.
This is a great pick.
I think people remember of just me saying it,
but it's the, you know,
why you want to be,
why you got to be so rude,
I'm going to marry that girl,
that shit, that white boy reggae.
The white boy reggae, yeah.
It is such a,
terrible song.
I know nothing about this group.
They're also a one hit one.
It's crazy.
It's the worst song.
It's a one hit one or it's number one.
I know nothing about this group, but it is.
That was a number one song?
I guess it makes sense.
Damn.
We get negative.
I like this.
We get in real, real negative.
Wait, you know what?
What?
I said, I got the next pick.
Okay.
And I'm actually, I'm going to bring us back to the light.
Okay.
I'm going to do Ferella solid.
And I'm going to pick my best song.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
And I'm going to do grinding by clips.
Grining, you know what I keep in a line.
Better stay in line waves.
You see it like me shining.
Grinding.
Inspired choice, sir.
This is, Justin's is playing a certain game.
I don't even think he's picking his heart.
He's just literally just trying to gratiate himself to the fan.
base and I find it disgusting.
I would be honest.
Well, more on that later.
However, I mean, look,
this song, I think,
only gets better with age, right?
Like, I think in the moment,
it really hit, but I don't know.
We're recording this
a little bit before this episode is going to come out,
but Cole and I were in a car
with friend of the show Logan Murdoch last night,
and the song came on, and it's just like, you know,
just everything about this song.
song. Yeah. Do you guys like the Farrell intro?
What, for grinding?
Yeah. I've learned that some people
don't. Wait, which is crazy. Wait, who doesn't?
Name them. Shame them. I like, I never
actually knew that that was like an opinion that you could have.
That's weird, right? It's crazy.
Yeah, it's iconic at this point.
Exactly. I gave, the song wouldn't
be what it is without it. Damn, grinding.
I like the symbolic aspect of it too. It's like
Farrell introducing the world to these
duo. It's perfect.
you know what I'm making things right with Farrell.
So if he's listening to the show, like, shout out Farrell.
Like, I love Farrell.
Like, there's other Farrell songs that I could have picked in other areas.
It's just like, hey, yo, it had to.
When I was going through the worst songs in the decade, I was like,
yo, it had to be him.
I'm sorry, but I love that we bring in, like,
Pharrell and a Neptune's some love.
Shout out grinding in the clips.
Shout out Chad.
Shout out Chad Hugo.
Yeah.
Shout out Chad Hugo.
Like, honestly, we, I'm not going to get too spicy.
It's the clips here.
I'm not going to get too spicy.
Shout out. Shout out, Chad.
Okay, damn.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Where do I want to go now?
So, I need a number one song.
You had your worst song and you had your best song.
Best song.
Ooh.
Okay.
You know what?
In one hit, no, I'm going to go in one hit wonder.
Who.
What's on your short list before you reveal your?
I'm not going to reveal.
it. Well, actually, Vanessa Carlton's
A Thousand Miles was in my short list.
That's a great one. That is a great one.
Rappers love that song too.
Who let the dogs out, Baja Ben?
That's a curse song.
That could have been a worse song.
You know, if we wanted to just, if I wanted
the real spirit, what I think the actual, like,
when we think of what a number one hit song is,
like, like, one hit wonder.
I mean,
Old Town Road, Lil Nas X is like actually like.
Is that a one hit, is he one hit wonder?
I think he had.
add other hits.
Yeah.
But I'm like,
if I asked you to name them,
could you?
No.
This is a question.
This is a philosophical question.
How do you guys define one hit wonder?
Because there's a whole different like list of.
Yeah.
Because I was trying to think is like,
call me maybe one hit wonder,
but I don't think so because she's had,
she's never obviously reached that height again,
but she's had a pretty,
like she has a core audience and really respected artists since then.
But it's kind of,
it's on the border.
of it. But I think Root is kind of like
the perfect example
of a one because it's like you comes out of nowhere.
Yeah. They're huge. Never heard
from again. Yeah, exactly.
All right. That's why
that's why I'm not
going to pick Lonez-X. I'm going to
go with my heart. I thought
this was the greatest song in the world.
When it dropped, I would watch
MTV 2 religiously.
I knew all the words.
It hit the suburbs like
an atomic bomb. I'm going to ride in a
millionaire.
Trying dirty
Roll it
Hey hey
Patrol it
Trying to get me
Riding dirty
What does it
Me Riding Dirty
What?
I mean
The legacy of this song
Is just like
It got into the wrong hands
It did
But that's actually like
The perfect example
Of a one hit wonder
Where it's like
We got a little too
carried away
Like we got it
Like here's a thing
You can't play Riding
anymore
Like it's like
Oh we played this into the fucking
When I tell you y'all
Dogg I
I thought I was the man when I was playing that song.
I'm just like, I'm the coolest anyone's ever been.
I know every single word.
Camillionaire is going to take over.
He didn't, but I think he's in,
what's the commillionaire up to?
He's into crypto or something.
NFD, yeah, he's definitely had an NFT or coin or something.
No, it was like NFTs or something.
I was like, damn, go get you.
It was, it was a millionaire.
Like, I think, because one of my favorite groups is pretty Ricky.
And like, I don't know.
One day I was just like, I wonder what the members are pretty Rick.
have you ever listened to Pretty Ricky?
No, I don't think so.
Baby grind with me.
Relax your mind.
Take your time with you.
Wait, what?
Maybe if I heard it, but that doesn't sound like.
You wasn't watching 100, 100, 106 in part?
We didn't have cable growing up.
Damn.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I'm not drafted Pretty Ricky.
Wonder.
Ride it.
All right.
That's a great choice.
I've got two.
Okay.
Come on.
All right.
I'm going to go.
Justin.
You can't let Justin keep getting away with it.
I'm going to go, let me get my worst song out of the way.
I've got two here.
I've got one that will just, is going to be a Charles Trigger.
And I have one that probably we all agree on.
Okay.
Do I want to get spicy or not?
Get spicy.
Here's a thing.
In my worst song, it might actually get the whole audience mad because I think people really like this song.
I was about to pick shaking off by Taylor Swift and worst song, but I'm like, we don't need the negativity.
Like, I'm just like, that's going to derail the whole day.
I like that's going to derail the whole day.
legitimately like that song, but it has one of the worst bridges of all time. Of all time. But I'm
like, Swift's don't, y'all don't do enough with that last album. I don't want to smoke. I respect
John and the girl. Anyway. You don't like wood? Okay. All right, let's just, let's just, let's mix it up.
I'm going, worse song for the 21st century. I'm going, Usher's, yeah, with Little John.
This was literally in contention for my number one song.
Same.
on my number one song list.
I'm sorry, I hate this song.
This is...
I'm going full Charles' heel turn right now,
but I have never liked this song.
This is egregious.
I hear it way too much.
It's one of the most overplayed songs
at stadiums, at any...
Yeah, I don't do...
Because this is how I know you wasn't outside.
When we was watching the video,
it Asher throws the chain around and, like,
bro, like, there's, like,
there's Neo in the Matrix when he was doing the...
And there's the chain flipping.
in the hood. Like I, this is actually, I'm so mad at you. This was a cultural moment. This was an
institution. This changed music forever. How dare you? I'm so sorry. I'm just going to my heart.
I learned from, I've been hanging out with you too much. I'm going to my heart.
I thought you were going to do like hotline bling. And I'm like, okay. And I don't care what the
audience thinks. You don't want to know. My number two, though, my runner up was going to be
radioactive Imagine Dragons. Dog, this was in contention. I'm my list too. But here's the thing.
I got a hot take
I gotta fuck with Radio
I got a vulgar radio
fucking the most
Charles sick ever
God damn dude
wait
Radioo like to go like
in the whip sometimes I'm like
alright let's put a little
Magic Dragon songs
let's really show him how we live in
wait really
Imagine Draggers actually has some bops
they're terrible but they have some ones
the only one
Kendrick has one stain on his career
and it's the Imagine Jackers
Collaboration
No it's also the bad blood
Bad Blood
No
yeah
That's hot. I love that song. He said that's hot. This is this is the this is some girl dad
shit and we don't let it rock. This is some girl dad shit because you're like, hey, you're like,
hey girls, you want to listen to some country. I just want to say we're leaving some really terrible
songs. Okay, yeah, let's run through since everyone got their pick in. So give us the short list.
Okay, here's some songs that I had on my list. This was very incomplete. My second pick was going to be
fireflies by Owl City. No. No.
Oh, no, I love that song.
I love that song.
You would like that song.
Okay.
But it's just a postal service ripoff.
Okay.
It's a terrible postal service ripoff.
It's the AI version of postal service.
Here's a song that I'm pretty sure that Charles is going to say he loves, but probably deserves to be in contention.
Beautiful girls.
I love all these beautiful girls.
They only want to, can I just say real quick?
My one memory of beautiful girls.
You want to know how much I love.
love this song.
They're like I was, I forget where my family was traveling.
I was a child.
And on the entire trip, I would just listen to beautiful girls over and over again.
And I thought it was the greatest song of all time.
This is disrespectful.
Anyway, continue just.
I mean, like, you know, we can talk about like conservative country songs, like try that
in a small town or some shit.
That doesn't, those are just, don't even kind.
I think Taylor Swift's me is actually the one, that's a, that is a real, that is a real.
bad song.
I had several M&M songs on this list.
And they ranged from Just Lose It.
Oh, yeah.
To, this is going to get me in trouble.
Rap God.
Yeah.
That was the end.
The Little Dicky Earth song with everyone on it.
Oh, yeah.
Little Dicky.
Never mind.
I'm getting too spicy.
Yeah.
You know, we were out last night and behind both of your backs,
I was asking people, what's the worst song of the century?
and there were like extensive debates about black eyepes.
No, we're not,
we're not throwing any dirt on the black eyepes.
Like they legends, like they did too much.
Like we're not doing that.
Like, let's get it started.
But you want to know what my take was?
Let's get it started.
Tonight's going to be a good night, good feeling, whatever, whatever.
Like my humps, all those songs,
they weren't going to be the black eyed piece pick for me.
Mine was going to be, where's the love?
Oh, that yeah.
Yes.
Wait, what about I?
Not, not, I got a feeling.
That's what I said.
No, that, that has, that has soundtracked too many, too many moments of, come on.
You, you, you were like in high school around that age.
I fuck with the black eye.
That's heavy.
I had to see these.
I went to border to cop that shit.
And then the last thing I had on my list was just anything to Kashi 6'9.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's, that's already.
I mean, the one that was probably going to get me in trouble if I didn't, it wasn't
shake it off by Taylor Swift, would have been icon of pop.
I love it.
Wow.
I don't care.
I was in college when that's, I literally wanted to throw my team.
I was like, I cannot hear this song one more time.
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All right. Now it's my turn.
No, I think I got one more, right?
Got one more.
Okay. So I went with ushers. Yeah.
Okay, what do I get left? I got personal favorite.
I've got Moment Maker and my best and most important. Okay.
All right, let's go.
I'm going to go with my moment maker.
As you took my number one at Runaway,
Justin took my number two at Not Like Us.
I've been obsessed with Daft Punk lately.
You know this, right?
Yes.
Both of you guys know this very well.
The song itself is going to be around the world
slash harder, better, faster, stronger.
mashup from the Alive 2007 concert series in the pyramid.
So we're talking Moment Maker.
One of the most memorable and influential concert series of all time is Daft Punk at Coachella,
revealing the pyramid, one of the best light shows, what the best stage performance is.
Up until that point in history influenced Kanye, influenced everyone that came after.
So I'm picking the song itself is arbitrary.
I could have plucked pretty much any song off of a live 2007, their live album.
But the moment of the pyramid and that entire set and everything that came after,
this is coming off the back of stronger Kanye sample and Daft Punk really revitalizing their career
and becoming bigger than ever off the back of their most least popular album.
So I'm, that is my, does that my sense?
Did I cheat code this a little bit?
No, I would have just picked Daft Punk, the Pyramid.
that entire just like we are still live that live that live show we are still living in the world that
they built there are everything from yeas to whatever like there are artists that it's just like yeah
just do a worse version of that like i love it's store but like that's not the best example but it's like
you put me on to the live album it was something that like i would listen to here and there but like
recently i've been playing and i was like oh yeah this is incredible yeah we were talking about it
If that punk went on one more tour,
like if they didn't oasis shit,
like,
bro,
we need it.
I think we need it.
And the,
the best thing about them
is they can put the helmets on any time.
And they,
you know,
they don't have the curse
of going out with long gray hair.
All right.
So is it,
is it my turn now?
It's your turn.
It's your turn, yeah.
Who,
you know what?
I got to go with my heart.
I'm going with moment.
Like,
there has not been a bigger peak.
A more important.
run in the 21st century than futures mixtape run.
To be there and bear with
pressure, I'm back on the road, I get low on the pedal.
We live by the cause of the ghetto.
I'm closing this out with my memo.
I'm treating this shit like a demo.
I'm putting my heart and my soul in this shit and some more.
To be there and bear witness to Monster, Beast Mode,
56 Nights, he comes out with Dean.
yes, too, March Madness
is going crazy. Don't even mention
throw away off. Like, it's just
it's, I'm getting chills
, holding crazy. Like,
this was at a very impressionable time
for me, if anybody's like, damn,
what happened to you? I'm just, like,
went through a breakup and then Future's Monster
came out and it was never the same.
I was forever changed and it's just
this moment
touches me. You're looking at me like, wait, what's the
what's the song though? Oh, what
so do we do a, do you want me to
pick a song from the mixed day?
You gotta have what, yeah,
it's technically a song draft, so just...
Oh, okay, okay.
In the same way that I pick, like,
harder better to represent the moment.
I'm gonna do, uh, coding crazy.
Okay.
Because my favorite,
my favorite is throwaway,
but I think coding crazy is the one
that for better or worse,
when you're thinking about
what would happen to music,
the drug influence,
it runs not only through,
like,
rap and SoundCloud rap, but it also starts infecting pop music as well.
So I think I'm going to go, I'm going to go Cody and Crazy and then everything that would,
all the mixtapes that would come after thanks to the kind of like the massive success of that.
Charles?
Yes.
Okay.
We both have a lot of affection for this run.
I had on my, on my favorite song list, Cody and Crazy was on that list.
This wasn't on my moment maker's list, but it was on my semi-short list of favorites.
when you started that sentence,
I thought you were going to go in a different direction
for best mixtape run,
best moment that kind of culminates that of the century.
Oh, I had, it was, it was between two artists.
It was between two mixtape runs.
Well, that's the thing, right?
And I've actually decided just now I'm not going to pick that.
So, like, let's debate this.
Who had a better mixtape run?
Future or Little Wayne?
In my heart,
Wayne's rapping,
Wayne, the way Wayne was attacking beats, the way I felt, the way it was just like, oh,
if Wayne gets on your song or flips it, it's over.
The fact that Barack Obama was calling him out a milly, when, like, when we think like,
a milly was a hit, you know?
It's crazy.
No hook, yeah.
But I think a lot of those Wayne songs also don't necessarily age well.
Like, no Wayne's mixtape run age as well as a moment, but Future's Mists,
tape run age as well as like songs and albums. I think there's also you see the DNA of future
all over music still. Yeah. And honestly like a future knockoff they might not be good,
but it sounds kind of okay. Yeah. Little Wayne. Oh my God. It was one of the worst periods
of Brad. But can I argue this though? Isn't it interesting that Lil Wayne
Mastap run is actually a mixtape run where Future's mixtape run was just a bunch of albums
where it's like you even see the difference of just like Wayne's mixtapes were like hosted by
DJ drama, Gangsta Grills, the Drought, he's rapping over other people's beats.
They're not dropping on DSPs where it's like with Future.
It's like, yes, technically it's a mixtape run.
But all of those are just albums and some of them had DJs on them.
But isn't that, is that also a product just of the timing of them?
in terms of like the rise of streaming
and then this being this weird hybrid
of like what is a mixtape,
what is an album now that you can just put it on streaming?
Or is that?
Well, I think it was like back then.
It's like Wayne was rapping over other people's beats
and was not getting stuff cleared.
Where it's like we more so I would burn Wayne mixtapes
to play them in my car or I would still go to Daph Piff
where it's like now for a lot of artists,
they're just like, if I wrap over someone's beat
I could put it on YouTube,
but it just makes more sense
to just make a holy new song.
Right.
Yeah.
All right.
Do you guys answer the question?
We didn't answer the question.
I can't.
I can't.
I can't.
Oh,
you have to be tiebreaker this time.
Oh,
I mean,
I'm the wrong person to ask.
I'm going to go a little Wayne
because I was more there.
The future stuff happened in my black hole
as we've talked about many times on this.
So I just wasn't there.
And then you kind of reintroduced me to a lot of that stuff
through the cultural exchanges.
But I vividly remember a lot of the Wayne
mixtape stuff.
The energy around that time is insane.
And maybe if we're talking mixtape though, then maybe to your point about Wayne's being
a little bit more traditional in a mixtape sense, maybe we give it to Wayne.
You know what though?
I've actually just right now in the past 10 seconds talk myself in another direction.
Okay.
Wayne obviously carried cash money on his back.
But Future was kind of at the beginning of the ascent of Atlanta Rapids.
just taking over music because like, you have rich gang, you have young thug, you have Migos,
you have, you know, this whole second or third wave, depending on how you classify it,
of Atlanta artists coming up and just really took over what popular music was for a few years.
And future was an enormous part of that.
Yeah.
I'm going, I'm going future.
I'm going future on that.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
So what was your, wait, did you make a pick?
Wait, where we move off?
I pick Cody crazy.
Okay, crazy.
And then now Justin, your picks.
I really got to go to the bathroom.
So let's pause for a second.
You live such a baller lifestyle.
I'm so jealous.
You know?
Some people got out of all the luck.
I can give you some advice, Charles.
You need some life advice.
I'll set you on the right path.
Like literally start.
Like, cameras are still rolling with life by the time.
We're taking a break, Justin's in the life advice do you have for me.
Have you ever read anything about like Buddhism or like Taoism?
No.
Wait.
I think that's the, I think that's the, the path I need to put you on.
I did read like, uh, Riz's Wu Tang, like, Ta-Wu or whatever.
And I also know, it's, I'm either getting the Wu-Ting book confused or I read, I think
it's called like the Tao of Pooh.
Okay, yeah.
It's all, it's like poo bear shit.
Right, right, right.
I don't know how well that's aged.
I read that in high school, but like, wait, like, are there any books that you could recommend?
I'm being so serious.
Well, if you want to get, like, if you have.
actually, I mean, Tao De Ching, have you ever heard of Tao Te Ching? It's like the foundational
text of Taoism. It's like all, it's like, I forgot how many short, very short, I don't even,
not called poems, but you can read one paragraph essentially of text and you could just think
about it forever. But it's all grounded in, you know, the way and just kind of, I'm texting you.
Okay.
being like water
you know
path of least
resistance
just
breath
you know
scent to yourself
and then
everything
blossoms around you
dog we're about
to get the chillest
Charles
hate is about to
leave
but here's the thing
the hate leaves my system
what do people
still love me
see that
okay
see this is
this is getting
interesting
actually
because I think
there's some truth
there
there's what
I think
there's some truth
in that statement
I'm like
here's a thing
I'm the push of Tia to the ring
I'm just like
fuck it let's go
That's what people come to me for
I'm never going to be the biggest
But you know what I'm saying
I'm gonna be negative though
Maybe we need like a cycle
Like a therapy podcast
Last long standing therapy
Come on a pop
Therapy quarter
All right
Yeah
Honestly we had the deepest
Convert
Literally this episode is gonna cut
All right
We're back
Justin we had a really deep conversation
All right, it's your pick, call?
Okay, so Justin, you have two picks next, right?
I have two picks coming up.
I have three picks left.
So I have, just to recap, okay?
I have done my number one pick,
the first pick of this entire thing,
not like us.
I feel good about it.
It's just funny.
I don't know why it's funny.
My best song, I pick grinding by the clips.
My worst song, I pick just a truly terrible
song. It actually is so terrible. I'm picturing like if this pops up on social media, I'm picturing
the song is just so bad that it might just like actually get the stink on my entire list,
but it was rude by magic. Shout out white boy. Shout out reggae. So that means that I have
one hit wonder, moment maker and best slash favorite. My one hit wonder, and this is partly
inspired by my recent experience
viewing the movie, one battle after
another, three times.
Shut up and dance. No.
It's Mo Bamba by Shek-West.
But it's a great,
it is a great song. It's such a good song. It's a great
song. I will be, but it's very performative
male of you. Having clips grinding
in 2025, not like us
and Mo Bamba
is, it says a lot
about you. Who's, who's, who's,
Who's got the, who's party
you showing up to?
Honestly.
Wait, actually no.
Cole's party's pretty good actually.
Irreplaceable, panda.
Worst song being us a year.
That actually really helps.
This is actually, of all of our list,
yours is the least scaring the hose of the list.
I know.
He and Justin, I picked a Kanye song first.
I was like, I got happy.
All my songs are cursed.
Yeah, I got the Europe pedophile song.
I got, I got, I got it.
I got them then immediately I'm going to marry your daughter.
I'm doing white boy reggae.
This is actually...
Yeah, it's actually bad.
All right.
Okay, but Momba is a great choice.
Mobamba, I actually, like, when it's...
I knew it was going to get one battle after another, and I still was like, hell.
I know.
I know.
It's such a...
Just imagining PTA listening to Shakeways and be like, fuck yeah.
Yo, if you could get PTA on this podcast, to dissect one film with him,
Which film would it be?
Oh, it's a good question.
To dissect specifically.
Oh.
I mean, there will be blood's my favorite.
And maybe, yeah.
You don't want to boogie nights at this age?
No, I don't need that.
Master?
Actually, yeah, the master.
Really?
Yeah, I think it would be the master.
I think it would ruin the mystery if you know too much about it.
If he says too much about it, I think it ruins the mystique.
There will be blood, does it?
Well, what's the point of doing a dissection with this?
This is true then.
This is true.
Is that the right choice, master?
Yeah, the master was the one I was thinking,
but it has to be there will be blood or the master.
I think in terms of like interpreting the text of the film,
those would be the most interesting.
All right, next pick.
So, just real quick, Charles, you still have number one on the board, right?
And what else do you still have the board?
You still have favorite.
Everyone still has favorite on the board.
Everyone still has favorite.
I'm going with my heart with favorite.
Yeah, I think favorite, we're probably all going to hold off till last.
This is, so now I have to go with Moment Maker.
I got to make things right with all this scaring the hose music.
I got to make things right.
This was an album that we didn't discuss on the best albums of the 21st century run on Last Song Standing.
The artist actually ended up winning with a different album, ended up winning with Blonde.
But my moment maker, I'm going with Thinking About You by Frank Ocean.
That moment when that album first dropped a couple days after that letter came out,
kind of changed the tide of Charles, you're shaking your head.
It's because it's egregious.
I can tell that Cole and I are really going with our hearts.
And I can tell that this ain't really a list.
Like, you really mapped it out in a way that is just, it's okay.
It's okay.
Like, but it's like, Cole, can you back me up?
Well, I mean, I get what you're saying, but these are all great songs.
So how do I push back?
No, these are all great songs, but Justin picking up is funny.
Justin picking them is funny.
Why is, what is funny about me picking the clips?
You know, they got the best album of the year.
We know, people activate it for the clips.
You know what I mean?
All I'm saying is, we saw it.
It started, here's a thing.
If you didn't draft, not like us first, I'd give you more sway.
Okay, set the tone.
But thinking about, wait, honestly, I'm surprised you didn't go off a go with something off blonde.
Think about you as, this is...
But for a moment, thinking about it used the right pick.
Really?
I think so.
It's the first song on the album, a couple days after that letter comes out.
This is true.
It changed everything.
Change everything.
Change everything.
It became a meme, which I think is important, the potato flew around my room.
You remember that?
give him a meme? I don't know this, but yeah, I'll take it for the argument. The opening line,
the tornado flew around my room. There's a meme that's like a potato flew around my,
you haven't seen this? I've never seen this. A potato flew around my room before you came.
Like, I've never seen this before. Okay. Cole's on the wholesome internet. I don't, yeah,
a potato flew around my room. That sounds like a really fun place to be as opposed to the cursed part of the
computer that I'm stuck on.
early internet. We were living two separate lives at this time. But like, I love thinking about
you. I'm not going to sing it. But, because honestly, guys don't pick thinking about you at karaoke.
I realized. The falsetto is. The falsetto is rough. It's rough. What's your go-to karaoke song?
It's, nemo. Recently, it's been so sick. I've been in the so-sick Neo. Have you ever heard so-sick?
Yeah. Not in like over a decade, probably. It's amazing. But I have some others.
We've been over this.
So Sick by Neo.
I've retired and I'm encore by Jayzee and Lincoln Park.
I am doing one-two-step by Sierra now.
Missy Elliott rap.
People really fuck with it.
It's like I can do some karaoke.
I can't sing, but like I could get the crowd involved.
I could get us moving.
I got some follow boy songs.
Oh, there you go.
Dance dance.
Oh, I forgot about it.
All right.
I'm not spoiling anything.
I'm not.
Okay, that was your two.
Charles, you're next.
It's me?
Ooh.
So you have your personal favorite, and you have...
I got number one.
Hmm.
You know what?
I gotta go.
I gotta go with my heart.
I gotta go 50 cents in the club.
You go find me in the club.
Aude full of bug.
Mama, I got what you need.
You need the fill of bars.
I'm gonna have a sex.
I ain't gonna make it love.
So come get me a hug.
Get in a girl.
Like in the club, like, in the club, like, people are like, I'm like, guys, you don't actually realize how massive of a moment this is.
That was in my shortlist for even Moment Maker.
Really?
Because it was.
Come on.
Every, G unit, every.
I've never, I'm young.
I'm young.
But in my lifetime, I've never seen a rapper come out like that.
And literally every song they touch is a hit.
People wear G unit shit.
the video was on constantly.
My parents like this song.
Like, you know, like, my middle-aged parents were like,
and the club is one of them joints.
I had the G-unit DVD that you could buy.
Did you, how much G-unit?
I didn't wear this shit.
What?
I had a much, I'm a suburban skinny white kid.
If I got you some G-unit, if I got you some vintage G-unit,
next time we do last song standing, would you wear some?
No.
Really?
Did you wear rockware?
No.
I had the rock wear and jean.
No, no, no.
I didn't have either of those.
I had the good,
what?
I was,
by that point I was wearing an echo.
I was,
that,
I was that kind of head.
I had some,
you had some echo.
No,
see,
I think I would like to say
I had like enough sense back then,
even back then,
that I didn't try to do the,
I never tried to do like the hip hop look.
As much as I like hip hop,
I was just never that guy.
I never really tried to pretend to be that guy.
We don't get you some LRG,
you some echo.
We'll get some fat farm.
Fat farm.
Carl Kani, we'll just bring it way back.
The S. Carter's.
I always liked it.
I always, I mean, always thought it looked cool.
I got some of my feet, make the cipher complete.
Ooh!
Like, Cole, Cole.
I know the Christmas gift.
We got some for you.
Come on.
All right.
This is your last two picks.
Last two picks.
I still have my best most important song and personal favorite.
So,
we didn't make it a formal rule,
but we were kind of,
you know,
we're trying to avoid overlap.
There's just not,
there's no way I can't pick either Frank Ocean
or for Kenrick in this category
in my most important best song.
I just,
I got it,
I'm going to just cheat the rules a little bit.
We've talked a lot about self-control on this podcast.
Yeah.
I'm not sure if that in a best or most important song,
I guess you can make the case that,
blonde is the best album of the century and so you're picking something off of that.
Not Like Us was on my short list for best, most important.
But I think it's not my favorite Kendrick song, but in this category specifically,
I think I have to land on Kendrick Lamar's all right.
It's a cliche pick.
I'm sorry.
It had to be picked.
I'm sorry.
It had to be picked. I'm not even that about it.
I was like, someone has to pick it.
We've talked enough about it on this podcast.
We all understand it comes off one of the best albums of the century.
It was chanted in the streets.
It represents a cultural moment.
And you can have a conversation about this century through the song.
What's your actual Kendrick pick, though?
If it's like, we're just like going with your heart.
In this, in this category or like in this category?
I think it would have to be.
it'd have to be sing about me probably
but I get why
it doesn't fit the mold
yeah yeah yeah all right
here's the thing
I actually thought
it was going to be picked in moment
it was on my short list
there's a lot of overlap between
any Kendrick song you're going to have
it's going to have that the moment too
because it was all right at the Grammys
was also a moment shortlist for me
but that ties into why it's
one of the best and most important too
so I'll go all right
sorry for the cliche pick
it had to be done
and that personal pick
personal pick this is the one I actually
had the most trouble with
because I have so many favorite songs of mine
I've talked a lot about radiohead
on this podcast
and I didn't want to overlap too much
we've talked about everything in its right place
in the same series
we talked about how to disappear
completely off a kid A in this series
in our last long standing series
there's one song we didn't talk about
not on a radio head project
on a justice project
an album that was close to being
considered an episode for last
outstanding
Genesis by Justice
if I'm going
if I'm going
that's fucking wow
incredible pick
incredible pick
you know
if I was trying to be technical
it would be a radiohead song
I'm trying to mix it up so I'm going to go
Genesis justice
this song I get this is 2007
I talked about how this was a formative time in my life.
This album specifically came out of time when I was getting interested in classical music.
They sample a Brahms symphony and turn it into one of the most grimy, dark, just when I put Genesis on,
it's like the opposite of everything in its right place in terms of that song will touch my heart.
There's something about Genesis that gets in my blood and just there's just,
you like this song Charles
no only do I love this song I'm jealous
that I didn't like I'm like why the fuck didn't I do this
because when I tell you I still listen to this album
like multiple times like in a month
I'll just be like I'll be riding around in the whip
and I'll put Genesis is an inspired
and like I've been getting into like some other justice albums
recently like their newest one
I returned to their newest one
it's actually really good
talk
last song stay at justice
how do you feel about this choice i think this is inspired and i think that uh i really appreciate
you going with your heart and not trying to win a draft but no it's a it's a great pick i told you
i'm not competitive that whole that whole that whole album that whole scene is also a moment in a way right
Yeah. I remember seeing the Genesis tour where they had the fucking Marshall, all those Marshall guitar amp speakers. You guys remember this? It was just a wall.
Yeah.
Fucking so high of Marshall. They didn't use them. It was just for aesthetic because they're tapping into the rock star thing. They'd come out in their leather jackets looking just fucking so cool. And I wanted to be them. And yeah, they defined like that second wave of French EDM or I guess a French electro.
the whole Ed Banger thing.
I just imagine American Apparel V-nex
and you know that whole scene.
Were you too young to be into that?
Were you dressing that way back then 2007?
Oh, V-Nex?
Yeah, the deep Vs.
Come on.
I was from the Jersey Shore.
V-Nex hit that shit crazy.
I thought I was in my V-Nex.
I thought I was the man.
That shit looks terrible.
That old is.
I'm like, fuck.
Yeah, you guys, okay,
you guys were talking about like hip-hop
clothing. My embarrassing photos are like the
V-necks and the tight jeans.
Oh, wow.
Also, the skinny
jeans and V-necks were nasty
were. That's nasty. It was nasty.
I look back on it. I was like,
what were we thinking? It was so nasty.
Okay, I think I'm done. So
Charles, back to you for your final pick.
You guys already know what my personal
pick is going to be.
Usher?
Confessions.
I'ma
keep turning. It is a time.
I just get a kid the same
Joe
I want you
want to go
And confessions
Part 2 I thought was one of the
Part 2 I thought was one of the deepest
Artist
I was like
How can a man
Be this vulnerable
About about his pain?
about his pain
and what he did
to the woman of his life
you guys know I'm a romantic
when Usher
slides on his knees
and hugs the woman
I was like
this is the greatest thing of all time
I can't believe
two Usher songs
made it on the 20%
Best song and one more song
I had to
I had to clean it up
Guys confession's part two
I'm sorry, I'm bringing it up every single season.
It is, you want to know,
all right, Confessions Part 2,
y'all know that's the Charles pick.
You want to know what else.
If we had a best verse,
like I would pick for this.
That would be a good category.
I wanted 50 cents opening a verse on
hated or love it.
I almost wanted to pick Hayter or Love it in this
because like every couple months,
I'll be like, damn,
hated or love it's great.
Growing up always confused my mother.
mama kissing a girl whoo who he was giving us a soul Justin you can call me uh it's a no no I
I just it's this feels better about you know we didn't have the rule but like the the informal
unspoken rule of two artists like worst in best feels right yeah this speaks to a
colonized friendship. I know. This is actually a perfect encapsulation right here.
All right. Yo, Justin, I think it's you. You have one more pick or two more.
I have one more. All right. And it's personal. This was the category I struggled with the most.
Yeah. Because a lot of my personal songs, I think, it just wouldn't even like scan on this list.
Like modest mouse is my favorite band, but like their only song that was really enormous was float on.
And that wouldn't be my song.
Modest Mouse is your favorite band? How did I never know this?
But like I'm into that early.
But like, so I can't pick something like that or like, you know, I can just say whatever you want.
You're putting rules on yourself.
I can, but this is also a product that people are going to consume at some point.
They start talking about shit they don't know about.
It's the end of the pod, man.
It's the end of the pod, bro.
It's a personal pick.
You're already going to win.
And he might turn someone on to their next favorite song.
Well, people should go listen to Modus Mouse, Moor and An Anarch.
Antarctica for an album. They should do that. I'm not going to pick that. They should also go listen to
songs, Ohio. I was going to pick maybe farewell transmission or that song. I keep a little playlist
called my funeral playlist, parentheses incomplete. Jesus Christ. It's incomplete. It's incomplete.
These songs are on it. It's basically my girlfriend knows that if something were to happen to me,
this has to play. Okay. I struggled with
what I wanted to do. There were, there were some songs that I were deciding in between.
I feel like I, there was part of me that wanted to make it right for the Jay-Z versus
Beyonce episode and go with my heart on that and pick like Heart of the City to just do apologies
for it. Oh, that'd be great. That would be great. That would be a great choice.
There's a big part of me that wanted to go. I'm going to go with my heart on this one.
It's going to feel weird to land it. But this is, I really wanted to go with DeAngelo.
Voodoo is one of my favorite albums of the 20,
21st century is one of, like the first album of the 21st century too, but RIP D'Angelo,
what I struggle with there is the song I really would have wanted to go with there was
Devil's Pie, but that didn't feel right. Like I would have had to go on with Untitled.
That kind of felt like more pandering. I am going to go with my heart, and I'm sorry, I'm going
with Jada Kiss and Stiles P. We're going to make it produced by the alchemist.
We don't make it. We going to make it. Turn the game quickly. And I don't like the rent.
It's a song that has just lived with me for almost 25 years now.
I'm sorry.
It might be the most obscure pick on this, but after all...
No, no.
I actually think it's like...
It's the best pick.
It's like, it's the best pick.
Jada, back, everything that happened at the dip set versus.
Like, fuck, when I finally landed the same...
I was like, fuck, he did it.
Shit.
It has the best opening line of Eddie Raps on this.
century.
Fuck the frail shit.
What happens?
Because when my coke come in, they're going to use the scale that they weigh the whales with.
Yes.
Sorry.
It's been a week.
My brief should cut that out.
I do not go to follow up to that.
But this is inspired.
Fuck.
After all the pandering.
I love it.
It's such a Justin choice.
It's such a just.
See, this is what I wanted the entire episode from him to just go with his heart.
Yeah, to go from Not Like Us to we got to make it.
It's pretty.
That's an arc.
It's in our, all right, do we want to read our, do we want to read our, uh, well, actually,
before we do that, the, the funeral music's got my mind thinking.
Do you, do you have a funeral song?
Can you, is there one that you would, you know what I mean?
Shout out, shout out to Waz.
They were talking about this on group chat.
I don't really fuck with thinking about my funeral like that.
Like, I feel like if I think about what I want to play at my funeral is bad vibes.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like at that point, like, if I know it's coming, I'm, I'm going to throw some shit together.
but it's like,
but this actually bring...
Is it just usher's confessions?
Just play the whole album?
No,
because the real thing is like,
I have to warn people when they get in my car sometimes.
I'm just like,
all right,
I'm gonna play annoying music
and they're just like,
what do you mean?
I'm like,
I'm gonna listen to like bibbidi boop like hyper pop shit.
Like 100 gecks.
Like, I kid you not.
Like, I'm listening to like shit where people...
The first time Van and the Midnight Boys got to my car,
Van goes,
oh, this is the shit.
So it would be like
annoying hyper pop shit
It would be like turn this off
We're glad he's gone
Wait so what would yours be
I haven't thought about this in forever
But for a long time
It was everything in its right place
Radiohead
I just like the symbology
Of everything in its right place
Because you know
That's beautiful
If you ask me as a kid
It would be I believe I can fly by R Kelly
It would no longer be that
For obvious reasons
We're up to two R. Kelly references on this episode.
He roamed very large and thankfully he's behind bars where he belongs.
It's weird hearing my daughters sing that song.
Wait,
they know I believe I can fly.
Space Jam.
They like the original space jam.
Wait, for real?
Yeah, more than LeBron version.
And what's also crazy, they definitely had a sing and I believe I could fly at like
kindergarten graduation.
Like, it was.
For sure.
Honestly, they're, that was bad.
So I was, wait, actually this is good.
I haven't, I've never thought about this.
Actually, I think I would do something beautiful, you know?
Yeah.
Like, I think I would, I would pick like a who, who.
I'll probably pick like a Tony Braxton song.
Something real, like.
We don't want, okay.
My thinking is, like, you want to make the people there feel okay.
Yeah.
You want to make, you don't want to make them more sad.
You want to make them feel like it's all good.
I'm like, what's the Tony Braxton song are?
Like, I get so high.
When I'm around you, baby.
Just like, get them like moving.
Do you know what that song's about?
I, no.
What, sex?
Orgasming?
It's about those things, but not with another person, Charles.
Oh.
With the, with drugs?
No.
Charles, I'll tell you how, I'll tell you how things work off the air.
Solo, like solo work, right?
Oh, masturbation?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Damn.
Here's the thing also.
It's a family podcast.
Here's the thing.
If people want to come to my funeral
and celebrate my life, they have to celebrate
it on my terms. Fuck it.
So you're good with the masturbation.
Yes. Symbology.
Yeah. Tony Braxton. That's my choice for now.
It might change.
Well, I have a hundred song playlist.
Oh my gosh.
This explains so much
about you, Justin.
But the song would be
talking has this must be the place
the live version. Okay.
The live version specifically from the movie Stop Making
Making Sense. Are you
going to haunt your guest if they don't
play the live version?
They can't, you get, now the studio version is great.
Studio version is an all-timer.
The live version might be like
my favorite thing has ever been recorded.
Okay. How are we
feeling? How do we do?
I think, well, let's do a recap.
Justin, you got the list?
I do. Okay.
this is a little bit out of order.
So, Cole, you had your number one song,
number one hit was irreplaceable by Beyonce.
Your one hit wonder was Panda Designer.
Hell yeah.
Your worst song was Yeah by Usher.
Disrespecting Usher, ludicrous, and Little John.
I'm sorry.
That's crazy work.
I'm sorry.
Ferell, go ahead, continue.
Yeah, moment maker, around the world slash better, faster, harder, stronger.
Did I get those words in the right order?
Probably not, that's fine.
From the pyramid tour slash alive, the death punk live album.
Your best moment, sorry, your best song was All right by Kendrick Lamar.
Your personal choice was Genesis by Justice.
Charles.
Love it.
Your best song, Runaway.
Yep.
Kanye West.
Your worst song.
Forrell.
Happy by Farrell.
Your one hit wonder.
Ryden.
It's a good one.
Your moment.
The future mixtape run
culminating in Cody and Crazy.
Last song Off Monster.
Great song.
Number one song.
Number one hit was in the club.
Your personal favorite was Confessions by Usher.
Part two.
Hell yeah.
Part two.
Sorry.
All right.
And then what...
This list is going to piss me off.
Number one.
Not like us.
that's my number one
hit best song
grinding by the clips
worst song
rude
one hit wonder
mobba
moment maker
thinking about you
frank ocean
personal choice
we gonna make it
by jada kiss
and style of p
this closer than I expected
actually
well in terms of a winner
yeah
I mean
this closer than I expect
what is winning mean
this is such a cold
And you're just like, we just were so competitive.
You're like, but that's the, that's the religion you were just talking about Tao?
Yeah, Taoism.
Taoism?
Yeah.
It's not about, it's not about who wins.
It's about the bond that we just created in this 90-minute podcast.
Man, fuck all that.
I'm trying to win.
I'm so honest.
That's why you are right.
We are going to have, we are going to have a section, a therapy section with you, because I am too concerned with winning.
We did just have a bond.
But if I, like, won.
And we created the bond, isn't that better?
What do they say about that in your religion?
If you created a bond and you won?
Yeah.
Those are competing ideas.
Shit.
Because a winner inherently, if someone wins and someone else loses.
And now you're just going, you know, hierarchy, patriarchy, power, manipulation.
You know what I mean?
Amongst friends?
Amongst, you know?
Shit, you're right.
We bonded.
You're the, oh, man.
Okay, but I mean, if we're thinking consensus, Justin won.
I don't think so.
I mean, you kind of spoiled with the last pick, Justin.
I know, I know.
Which was a last minute pivot I think we talked to you into.
I don't think that was your original pick.
No, I, though, the.
Kayla, our wonderful engineer over here, you can see that I had three songs on my favorite,
and the number one was the one I went with.
Okay.
I went with the first song I jotted down.
Okay.
Almost went with dipset anthem.
I almost went with Cameron.
I thought you were going on Cameron for sure.
I thought you were going with Cameron.
Yeah.
I literally, I would have done they ready if I was doing my dipset song.
You would done they ready?
Are you guys proud?
I didn't pick a Radiohead song?
Yeah.
Honestly, I'm proud how long you waited out for Kendrick.
Like, you really waited.
What songs did we not discuss?
Because I have a couple here, like, for best song, B-O-B, Outcast.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
Miss Jackson was also on my short list for number one.
number two number one choice. Okay. Well,
someone like you, Adele, number one. Adel was on my list.
Roland in the Deep was on my list. Yeah. That's my Adele joint. Okay. Yeah.
Great little Wayne freestyle as well over that.
Mr. Brightside didn't get picked. Mr. Bright, it was on my short list. Fuck. It was on,
no follow boy songs? Did that go number one? It did not. Yeah. Okay. It didn't? No. Mr. Brightside
didn't go number one? You would have had to go and either, you would have had a like,
invent a moment and been like, I'm a big Buffalo
Bill's fan and they play that in the stadium.
Black and yellow? Black and yellow? I think that's fine.
I think that's fine. Black and yellow? Sorry.
See you again? Also, I was
yeah. See you. That was almost on my worst song list to be able.
What? Yeah. No. That song makes me cry. I love
that song. That's crazy. Shout out. Shout out Paul Walker.
Yeah, Day and Night Kid Cutty.
No, honestly,
the Day and Night Crocker's remix might have been
in my worst song. Do you remember that?
The what remix? The Day and Night
Crookers remix.
Dun-na-na-na-na-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Justin knows exactly.
I know exactly that song.
Yes, when we were playing for Normie crowds,
when DJ, and you do something like that into like the heads-will-roll,
a track remix from Ye'A-A-E-A-E-E-E-As.
Speaking of Ye-G-G-G-E-E-A's maps.
Yeah, for sure.
Was on my best song shortlist.
No Drake songs.
Are you guys proud of me?
Extremely.
Oh, yeah.
We didn't talk about Drake.
I almost book-ended the whole thing.
This was also on my list.
I almost bookended by going story of Adidon.
All right.
Number one, we didn't know Kill Bill.
Cizza.
Yeah.
That was an ever game pick.
My dad, my daughter, being a dad, a daughter dad, driver's license, Olivia Rodriguez.
Okay.
That's nice.
That's sweet.
I also had a lot of Beyonce Destiny's child, single lady, say my name.
Oh my.
I did think of destiny.
Oh my God.
That's the same.
That's actually maybe better than any song, any of us picked.
Like, just being honest.
Okay, here's an interesting question.
Is bad habit going to be a one-hit wonder, Steve Lacey?
I don't know.
I think that's...
Or is that just like a TikTok.
That's just, that's a different thing to me.
Steve Lacey is like an actual artist who was not trying to make a hit and he just made
something that was so infectious.
Like, I don't consider him a one.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
One hit wonder to me says that they're kind of still eating off of this one song.
Right.
Like Billy Ray Cyrus, achy, breaky heart way back.
That was a one hit wonder.
Like that dude's whole life before his daughter blew up was achy, breaky heart.
Steve Lacey's had a whole career and put out really good albums.
He's not a one hit wonder.
He just had a song that blew up.
Other songs that weren't picked.
International Players' Anthem.
I was never going to pick it.
That's a good.
I love that song, but Pandora.
I agree. I agree. I couldn't even I couldn't even go there. What else? Do we miss anything else?
I think we got the big ones. One hit wonder I had like latch by disclosure on my long list.
Yeah. I almost went crazy by Norris Barclay, but I was like that's a little cheating because Seelow and
have both had such big careers outside of Norris. No, we couldn't have picked that. Couldn't have
picked it. Because Norles Barkley had other hits. That, yeah. Never to that degree. Yeah.
It wasn't that. Yeah.
No one picked a JZ song
That's kind of crazy
One hit wonder
No one picked
Somebody that I used to know
Somebody that I used to know
I love that song too
Yeah
I guess yeah
That's the classic one hit wonder
Charles
I really almost
I almost went my heart
In one hit wonder
And pick Gucci Gucci
All right
Let's wrap it up
Like let's wrap it up
Shout out Creshawn
Shout out Cray Sean
But come on
Come on.
And then let's ask the listeners, last long standing.
Next season's going to be in the summer.
But if they started thinking about the artist that you want us to hit, hit us up on social media.
We're taking suggestions.
We have someone in mind for the next season, the last long standing, but it's not set in stone.
We have someone in mind, but I will just tell the listeners.
He's going through a lot right now.
He going through a lot right now.
You know what I'm saying?
He might need a last song standing season to cover some shit.
It's not our Kelly.
It's not clear.
All right, let's wrap you up.
All right, y'all.
