DJ Akademiks Live Streams - 21 Savage Wants Young Thug, Wham & Gunna to SQUASH IT! Future Sneak Dissing? Jim Jones Pays 50 Cent?

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

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Come on here and solicit donations like some of my peers. And there's nothing wrong if they do. Would I come on here, and I know it's late tonight, so it's already at midnight, but I apologize for my late start. I come on here and I solicit your time and attention. So from now on, what we're going to do, we're going to analyze on a weekly basis. whatever the most active chats are

are going to be on that right side. I don't care if y'all agree with me, disagree with me. We want to see activity. And as long as every time I look up, I'm like, okay, they're moving up in there. That's what we're going to do. Kick been moving crazy.

They've been active. There's a lot of goons out there. Okay? The academy's popping too. But we're going to rotate those slots. as far as activity go. By the way, you know, I also want to salute to kick overall as a platform.

You know, they embraced us at a time we needed them, and I appreciate that. And I appreciate you guys for showing love and going over there as well. So, you know, damn, I've been going crazy. Okay, all right. R block, it's not over yet. The war is not over. By the way,

this is, I also have a thought, but we're going to be fair. We're going to be fair. I have a thought. Okay, here comes the academy. There might be a scenario where R Block or King Academics kicks out the academy, which is like the chat that just popped up. I'll move it real quick. This is the academy.

They might kick them out of there. And they might take over the lower slot. So now y'all have an entire, let me make it a little bit closer that y'all can see. We go, we go right there. And I ain't going to lie. Kick looking a little bit more active than YouTube already. I don't know. Oh, no.

The only thing I'm going to tell y'all, just be active and participating in the stream. Comment whether you're talking to someone in the chat. You're commenting on the stream. You're trying to ask me a question. Let's get it going on. Shout to all my people at Kick. And, of course, shout to YouTube, but even shout to Rumble. look as well. All right, chat, we do

got a long stream today, so I drank one cup of coffee, but I'm going to have to still, I'm going to have to work it out tonight. I'm going to have to work it out. We got a bunch of shit to talk about. Atlanta, what are we going to do? Atlanta, Atlanta, Atlanta, what are we going to do? We got to talk about it.

What are we going to do, Atlanta? What are we going to do? Yo, is it me or is Kick going crazier than YouTube right now? Maybe it's early. Wow. I better get up in that chat because that kick shit is moving. Anyway, I would like for you guys to tell me what you want me to talk about.

What we have on our agenda, we're going to get a little bit into politics. But you know me, I try to do this within the last hour or so. So we will get to Candace Owens. I didn't do it last night. And by the way, because somebody remind me, where are we in the 30 for 30 streak? I know we're past day 15. Are we a day? We might be a day like 19, right?

Oh, wow. Oh, wow. You guys let me know. Okay. So, we'll get to, we will get to some politics. And not necessarily politics, but it's a political story, I guess. But it's really interesting. I'm not, by the way, I do want you out of know, I don't have, you know, despite, you know,

I was disgusted by them trying to say I'm right wing. like I'm trying to push propaganda for my audience to vote a certain. I don't care if what do you have? I don't even care if you vote. Like, that's not my thing. Now, I feel like we are close enough that even if I voted for someone you might not like, you'd be like, uh, yeah, I'm not going to listen to whatever I can talk about with politics, but this is my nigga still.

We could disagree on political stuff. I'm not trying to push political stuff to y'all. And I would rather, if I could push something, I would rather push a rapper or music to y'all more than politics if i if i do if i do cover political subjects i hope you guys take it as yo act give us the entertainment value of it like i think this is an entertainment um or entertaining actually canis owens erika um kirk that whole saga she she met up with erika um from turning point and obviously

charlie kirk's wife and then she popped on here there's a lot of drama i unpack right it's kind of like when we covered the um the reiner the reiner um story yesterday again we're at the end of the year other than 21 savage dropping an album there's no new music it's only 21 savage and poochie steve that's it actually let me not dismiss a bunch of people um shy glisi did drop and and there's like two more drops that i'm forgetting but there's not much music going on right so just allow me to kind of step outside that realm for a bit. And again, I do understand I might not be an expert on politics. I feel like I'm decently intellectually, you know, up there or sharp. But I don't want to be the guy who y'all are

thinking you need to listen to for anything but music, right? But I think I'm good with finding the entertainment. Anyway, cool. So we're going to talk about Atlanta. It's a lot of stuff to talk about Atlanta, a lot of stuff to unpack. There are some other topics. And I guess while we're Like, I know it's late. I know somebody I might be like, your act. No foreplay today. Pause.

Get straight to it, right? But we could probably do like a small topic before everybody get up in here, right? We could probably do like a topic or two, right? Can't we? I think finally, well, let's start out with this. It appears that 50 cent has now let people know

that perhaps the full court press that he had against Chano, Jim Jones, Fabulous, and Davies on their podcast, he might be chilling out. He actually put up a post today

and this was his post. Let's see what he says. He says, so, Jim actually wired 200,000, which, by the way, fifth, he's short 50,000. You said 250, okay?

If you wired 200, he's short 50. But okay. but ironic he's short 50 you said okay cool he may turn out to be a good tenant after all Samuel I guess he's talking to the person who owns the building that they shoot the podcast if you need to make them pay just give me a ring I'm here now I'll do one better and fifth I'm not trying to undercut you here um to chano Jim Jones and the and fabulous and Dave East I have about four or five studios that's literally within a mile from the Holland Tunnel, which is about like three miles from Times Square.

It's just on the Jersey side. It's right over the Hudson. Everybody comes there and I rent it out to a whole bunch of people. I'm down to whatever price y'all are paying. If you owed quarter million dollars, y'all are getting fleeced. Now, despite our issues, okay, whether I use my studio and I've incurred those costs ever since I did off the record, even though I haven't been to studio maybe the month. Right? What has the last one I've been there?

With Lauren Conlin, I still have it. You know what I mean? The point is this, if you guys need a place to record, and by the way, I actually rock with you guys so much, I got a dressing room for y'all because apparently I'd be having like a dressing contest who could have the best, you know, teen or citizen drip. It's all good. We got a dressing room for y'all.

But if y'all owe a quarter million dollars, what I would charge y'all honestly, Like, no bullshit. Like, y'all shoot once a week, right? I could give y'all a block of 12 hours for once a week, right? Like, does the editors need to come to the studio and do work other than the day you shoot? But if you want to rent out my spot, 12 hours, I'll give you preferential. You can pick whatever date.

We'll push any rentals or whatever back. It's definitely a better location than where y'all at because the only better location to where I'm at is time square. And I don't think you're at in time square. But let me see. Every week, 12 hours. Let me try to do the math. Maybe we'll add up.

I don't know. Well, if you're required to do some stuff, I'll give you all the deal right now. I'll give you all the deal. This is with our editors and, well, not our, not full editors, but we'll do our recording people, our engineers. I do three bands.

Three bands. for one for one joint so three times four that's 12 bands a month it would take a while for you to get to quarter million dollars so really 12 bands a month um that would be 120,000 dollars a year come on y'all get a place to record and we'll put all your stuff in there we'll even help you with set designs shout to my man voselli he'll give you a discount we'll get your stuff in there you guys don't have to be squatters the squatters stuff is not cool we'll help you out we'll help you out so um I don't know why y'all are paying that much, but if y'all want to get in a deal with me and I'll rent you my studio,

it would literally take you two and a half years of non-payment to even rack up a debt of quarter million dollars. Two and a half years, okay? And I'll give y'all keys. Y'all can have access to the building whenever. The key card might just have to be for that day, okay? Anyway, Fifth is saying that they have paid the debt. and look like the bullying from 50

or maybe the embarrassment where we're looking at these guys like, wait, I broke, has done the job. And that's where 50 always takes his micro wins. He wins. Not only no one is going to talk tough to him because it's 50 cent. They can't talk money with him. But also, they don't want to be embarrassed by him. So whatever he might know that they didn't want to.

want to know, they went behind the scenes and covered up and we heard nothing from Jim Jones respectfully. And we heard nothing from Mayno other than him saying, is smoking here? Does he want smoke? He's called you a loser and a bum 15 times. I think he does. But okay, cool. So it looks like the podcast lives to fight another day. They have paid $200,000. I think that came from Fab, respectfully. Dave East, Mayno, and Jim Jones, I don't think they got $200,000.

I think that came from fabulous. But it's okay. Nevertheless, the podcast lives. All right. Okay. Oh, 50 so boasts and a bragging. He says, are you having a good day because I am? I'm number one again.

You have a right to be upset about it. Holy shit. Now, did y'all see 50%? Go back and forth. It wasn't going back and forth. He actually commented on. So Dr. Umar actually jumped in on this, right? So Dr. Umar did a stream with a Philadelphia streamer named Raud.

And, um, Dr. Umar, 50 cent. And he gave some comments and 50 actually responded, you know, let me see. Could we find it with the 50 responded. 50 responded, he just said, shut up, nigger. Like, you know, he did a, this got posted to some Instagram page. And he just said, shut up, nigger. That's all he said. And, oh, this is what he said right here.

He says, shut up, nigga, right? There he goes. Now, if you're wondering why he said, shut up. And by the way, Umar did respond afterwards, but let's hear what Dr. Umar said initially. Check this out. I saw the Diddy documentary. Here's what I'm going to say about the Didy Documentary.

And I have no problem with black people holding black people accountable. I'm having a problem with black people needing to expose black people that indefinitely. But you never expose white people who do things to black people. The Roman Catholic Church has taken advantage

of way more children than R. Kelly allegedly did. Are you following me? I'm following me. Jeffrey Epstein has taken advantage of way more women than Sean Combs allegedly did. But where is the documentary on Epstein by black people?

Where is the documentary on a Roman Catholic Church accesses on black people. You see what I'm saying? So to me, the 50 cent documentary, again, respect to 50, no issues there. It is an example of self-hatred, disguised as community service. You see how they go? It looks like community service. No, it's not. That's self-hate. I saw the ditty documentary. Here's what I'm going to say about the ditty documentary. And I have no problem with black people holding black people accountable. I'm having a problem with black people needing to expose black your spirit don't need a label it don't need a title right we give it one that's the i don't care if you want to get it through a religion get it through

religion so america as an independent reality like a regular school for them because beauty as a black woman is going to be determined plus the mess that's going to the services you follow me jonathan majors jail for a crime i don't think he committed two pop went to jail agent right i just want to bring him down because I don't like him right I'm not talking about them that's the ghetto informants I'm talking about because my circle very tight right yeah but in my you you will be taken down we need black power who them right yeah but five five thick and a but then you have a spiritual burden see it's not about

promiscuity yeah conflict within themselves yeah that they have to rectify every cousin with the jail I was getting a little bit of the best I ended up I'm saying I can keep good I know it's not easy you got a Republican dominate yeah because I came out the gate hard yeah so there was no not the exact system I and some everybody out here shopping for Christmas stuff you see and this right here is really one of my most disappointing periods of the entire in my universe. Yeah.

More than we hate anything else in this world. Wow. Thank you. Sorry, Chad. Of course, I'm muted. So, my bad. I pulled up the original clip just to try to get just to try to get some real context.

I'm trying to get out the habit of playing like these clips we see on Twitter, which honestly, I mean, I have a bunch of Twitter pages. And I, you know, I oversee a bunch of pages that I have people who post to. And they're going to try to find the most salacious clips. And to be honest, a lot of times it be out of context.

And what I mean out of context, it's not like, uncontextually dishonest. But it's not, it wouldn't rage bait you if you heard the context, right? Like if I just clipped five seconds of someone saying, yeah, and that's why I don't fuck with, hose with blonde hair, you're like, whoa. right like but if you heard a conversation I'm like oh yeah I got set up 15 times by that you might oh it makes sense so a lot of times when I see shit on Twitter I try to find the original source and watch three minutes before the clip in three minutes after I don't know if you guys like agree with that principle why because I've seen people clip me and they do it

consistently and they're like yo this is what act things I'm like well if you heard four seconds before, I was literally given a context. I wasn't even talking about me. But clipping, you know, as much as I love it because it's a great promoter, it could also sometimes lose the context. So that's what I'm trying to find it. Damn. Okay. That's number one. People where the richest. So I'm trying to find a ditty conversation, right? This is like a full vaude of what they were doing. I don't know how to get started. Now is us. so it's

modified and plagiar it's not 24 hours like the day or recognize that there is unseen evil whenever you marry there ain't no difference you know we got pedophilia in

yeah that's nutty for somebody else's destiny they might need that God you have to go into your self does anyone know and the reason we learn through truly a question

of ring you must visible tattoo on your body one that cannot be hello actually they have this cool tool I don't if you guys use this tool there's a tool on here sometimes I will say show transcript here we go perfect all we got to do

search the transcript documentary okay here we go bingo that's a cool tool by the way here we go what did you think about that I saw the ditty document

yep so so let's do it Let's try this for a bit. I'm going to go back a minute or two. Let's get some context. And then we're going to get to what 50 says. And they said, that's what got. That's what got me.

You heard about that. Yeah, six nine. I heard about Aisha, but not six nine. Takashi. Yeah, I don't think. He was on some interview. And they said something about what celebrities you've been with. And he said, Iisha Curry.

You could have been joking. What the. Or, you know. That's why I'm doing what I'm doing, chat. Because what he's talking about. out with 6-9 and 6-9 did mention Aisha Curry, he was clearly trolling and he admitted he was trolling afterwards, but that didn't get clipped. That didn't get clipped. So what got clipped was him saying he did sleep with her and, you know, that went viral. No one really went back to play

the longer clip and actually he had to do another like, you know, stream or whatever where he corrected it to say, bro, I was trolling like I didn't sleep with Aisha Curry. So that's why I'm playing Dr. Umar in context. No, something like that, allegedly, you know what I mean? But I'm hoping that's not the case. I'm hoping that's not the case. I'm hoping that's ass, but we're, yeah, super ass. Dan, that is great.

Yo, we just watched the Diddy documentary. What did you think about that? I saw the Diddy documentary. Here's what I'm going to say about the Diddy Document. Okay, here we go. And this is not about 50 cent as a person. It's about us as a people. Okay.

Let me just say that up front. Yeah. I am bothered by the fact And I have no problem with black people holding black people accountable Right But I think I know what you're about to say because I said it But help I'm having a problem With black people needing to expose black people that indebtly

Yeah But you never expose white people who do things to black people The Roman Catholic Church Let me stop it there and I'm a little bit torn on this, but I'm not torn for the reason why Dr. Umar is saying what he's saying. I'm torn for the fact that 50 Cent has an ax to grind because there's a personal vendetta there.

My baby mother and the woman who I was in love with for a long time, you have not only slept with, you've slutted out, and you have put her through some trauma that may even bleed into how she looks at, not only sex, but also how she deals and interacts with people. One of the people who she has to interact with on a long-term scale is my son, and it is incumbent, and it is the job of the father to make sure that your offspring has the best chance of survival and, you know, doing the best in life, whether it is to make money or put them in the best situation around the best people.

And if you realize that the mom, who's going to be the primary caregiver, has been traumatized by someone, even if you still don't romantically care for her, you feel like somebody just spun on your family and you got to go spin on them. So I didn't think that 50 necessarily, because he has an ax to grind,

you probably shouldn't pick the guy. You know what I mean? Like, if I had to write the story, if I directed the story of, and these are people who I don't even have like, it's nothing ever that personal, right? But they wouldn't make me the person who directed the Meek Mill documentary. And it's not that I even hate Meek at the current moment. Why?

I've had a history with him that's not that pleasant. Who knows if I still have an axe to grind? Or I might want to just make him seem like way lesser than maybe the world perceives him as. Do you get what I'm saying? That's my only issue with the documentary. Now, to Dr. Umar's point, I vehemently disagree with him. Because he's making a point on the counter that I know if we flip the scenario, he would try to defend the same thing in trying to argue people down.

Let me make, let me, let me, you know, again, I don't like to lose people, but I know you guys are so smart, so, you know, it's, you guys can keep over the combo. Check this. What are you saying? Yeah. I am bothered by the fact. Uh-huh. And I have no problem with black people holding black people accountable.

Okay. Right. But. I think I know what you're about to say because I said it. But help. I'm having a problem with black people needing to expose black people that indebtly. Yeah. But you never expose white people who do.

things the black people okay so so let me then take the same premise that he says and i would say this well dr ummer let's compare this and i know this is not necessary the same thing but let's compare this to crime and let's compare this to another hot and really kind of touchy subject in terms of black on black crime i've heard dr um but it is a talking point within the black community and black, you know, pro-black talking heads, when you start talking about black on black crime, this is their response. There's no such thing as black on black crime. People commit crimes in the vicinity that they're in.

So if black people live in either the ghettos or the hoods, among other black people, they're going to commit crime among other black people. people. White people, if they live in the trailer parts, if they live in, you know, wherever among other white people, they're going to commit crime among white people. It's not a thing that black people just like to kill black people. It's just that black people are around each other and if these things occur, that's what it is. So let's take that premise, not about crime necessarily, but about that same thing. Oh, black on black crime isn't a thing because it's just about who black people are around.

So, yes, if crime is going to occur, it's going to be about black, it's going to be, if you rob someone, it's going to be most likely a black person because you live there, why can't we look at the same premise to say, well, if you're going to do a documentary, you're going to do a documentary about your peer. It's not necessarily about, oh, let's expose a white person. No, you're going to do a documentary. If you're a black guy in hip-hop, you're probably going to do a documentary about another black guy in hip-hop.

You're not going to do a documentary about a country singer or about someone that's in the tech world because that's not the people you're around. So that's what I'm trying to say. That's why I disagree with Dr. Umar on this one particular point. I don't think that this is, oh, this is a black on black thing and why are you exposing black people but not white people? 50 cent hung in circles was around people that were either closer or close or shit, clearly was sharing the same bed with him and did he. So even though I do think that 50 is biased, who would be the better person to do a documentary on Diddy? Would you want some white person doing a documentary on Diddy that never knew Diddy, that never knew maybe women that Diddy was fornicating with having freakoffs with? Or would you want someone who have been in a club with him 15 times, been on the phone with him?

He knows intricately Diddy at a different level. Now, grand, I'm still not saying don't put his enemy who has an axe to grind. but I actually believe that the if we believe that most things are happening as a you know as a reason of proximity to other people in that same type of situation whether it's black on black crime yeah I would expect black people to do documentaries on black people what's the problem white people should do documentaries on white people or whatever genre or wherever you live why is that so odd and that's my pain on that I let Dr. Ummer continue. The Roman Catholic Church has taken advantage of way more children than R. Kelly allegedly did.

Right. Okay. And that's where I say when people like, he's flipping the idea of when people are trying to debunk black on black crime and they usually say, well, you know, no, it's not a thing. Black

people aren't that hatred or whatever. And I believe that, right? But you can't use it only when convenient. Why the hell with 50 Cent, who's not Catholic, go to do a documentary on Roman Catholics or priests? Why the hell would he do that? First thing that would say, do you have any understanding, tacit knowledge, or even experience, being around people who are Roman Catholic?

Do you go? Do you go to, do you practice Catholicism? do you go to one of these cathedrals? No, and if you don't, why the hell would 50 cent be qualified to do that? If anything, 50 cent is qualified to do a hip-hop documentary or a documentary about someone within hip-hop because what is he, a mogul and also one of the, you know, better rappers, especially coming from New York,

that is in hip-hop. It's like, put it like this. With Dr. Umar's logic, if they said, yo, we're going to make a, um, a documentary about the New York the New York hip hop scene for the last 30 years. Who do you want to, to, um, direct it? You could get Steven Spielberg or you could get Spike Lee.

Do you get what I'm saying? It's clear and obvious. Spike Lee. Spike Lee would know the culture more. He was a part of it. So that's more natural. The thing with Dr. Umar is saying is that, and I think he's trying to frame black culture for us to operate on a monolith like how some people perceive Jewish culture to do. Like Jewish culture, they don't like nobody attacking them, period, even if it might be truthful.

Right. I don't think black people have that type of same type of, you know, cohesion and, oh shit, you're attacking one of us. so there's something wrong with you it's just not like that that kind of exists in Jewish culture I'm not gonna lie like you say one thing you know if there was a black guy trying to do a documentary on some evil Jewish guy and he mentioned

anything about the nigga being Jewish or Jewish culture I think they would call that nigga anti-Semite right clearly right so I get he's trying to have black people move like how Jewish people move except never be like that right are you following me I'm following me Jeffrey Epstein has taken advantage of way more women

than Sean Combs allegedly did. But where is the documentary on Epstein by black people? Why would black people make a documentary about Epstein if they weren't around him? That wouldn't make any sense. Now, if Trump said he's going to do a documentary, right, you might want to watch that. Trump has been around the motherfucker,

knows intricately and intimately, that dude has a, been in situations shit he kicked he kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of Maralaga he could do a documentary why would some random dude who's never like been around the situation do the documentary the documentary on a Roman Catholic church as excesses on black people you see what I'm saying so to me the 50 cent documentary again respect the 50 no issues there it is an example of self-hatred disguised as community service you see how that go it looks like community service no it's not That's self-hate.

I said that. Because we never do that to white folks. Right. We got a whole list of white folks who've been hurting us. Why we never done no documentaries on these killer cops? Why has there never been a documentary on Trayvon Martin's killer? There's never been a documentary on Michael Brown's killer. There's never been a documentary on Tommy Rice's killer.

There's never been a documentary on Brianna Teller's killer. There's never been a documentary on Amir Locke. You see what I'm saying? I can keep going to sonya Massey's killer, so on your Blan's killer. But we'll do a four-party. part series on Puff, we'll do an eight-part series on R. Kelly. Where is the eight-part series on the Roman Catholic Church, Jeffrey Epstein, and all these other ones? And to say this.

Harvey Weinstein didn't even get an eight-part series. To say this, he's talking about from us. From us. Because he's talking about self-hatred. From us. Okay. Because somebody said there is an FEC, from us. From us.

Okay. In the Epstein documentary is not no four-part jury. They may do it now. now that he's dead you see that yeah but where was the geoffrey epstein documentary when he was alive they did r kelly alive they did bill cosby alive

let's see who did um survive in r kelly who was the um people behind that that's important to know right it was written by nigel that sounds like a black guy but let's look at the executive producers yeah the black people did that too

dream hampton is a notorious African-American writer that, you know, yes, has some definitely has a lot of ties to Jay-Z, but she's black. Tamara Simmons, this is, it looks like this is a top executive producer. Tamara Simmons, I don't even know who this is. Tamara Simmons, executive film producer, she's black. You know, what Dr. Umar, I think, you know, incorrectly is trying to perceive or portray actually, not perceived. He's trying to portray that 50 is almost like going against what the majority of black people would do, as if 50 is the only black person that would do a documentary about another black person to try to bring down, quote, unquote, that black person.

Surviving Art Kelly wasn't done, but I'm looking at it now. Dreamhampton, Black, Tamara Simmons, black. Maybe Jesse Daniels is white. But like, it appears that there were black people along with this. Jesse Daniels, Sir 5. In Art. Okay. Don't really know who this is, but I would imagine this person is white.

Joel, okay, so it looks like it might be half and half. Joel Carsburg, this person got to be white too, right? That's white, film producer, white guy. Let's keep it going. Jessica Everett. Okay. Okay, another person that's white. And this person here, who is this?

Maria Pepin Clearly black Once we see bad girls club Come on now And I'm seeing a small picture right here Oh no mind it's a white girl What the fuck? It's a white girl

So there's two black people Which again I'm gonna be honest with you I think Dream Hampton If you don't know she's like a big deal Like she's a big deal when it comes to like whatever Okay Let's actually read So filmmaker music critic Dreamhampton

Served as the executive producer together With the da la da Okay And Okay Let's not think about who came involved. Let's just think about who were the people behind it. Dreamhampton with some white people and Tamara Simmons.

So it looks like two black people, two white people. Again, I know. It's a little bit more mixed. And I'm pretty sure if we look at, let's see, the reckoning. Let's see, fuck. Can we find it? Okay, Sean Combs is the reckoning. Let's look at their executive producers.

50's cent clearly black. A, Emporian, thank you for the out of ten. I'm going to read it in one second. I'm pulling up the chat here. 50's black. I know Alexandra Stapleton. She's black. Let's look at Stacey Scripter.

Who is this? Okay. Stacey Scripter, VP of programming. She's white. So, like, listen, the narrative comes from the two people at the top. It's 50 in Alexandria Stapleton. We're never seen these people on screen. Just like Surviving R. Kelly is Dreamhampton and Tamara Simmons, right?

We're never seen these white people when it comes to the surviving R. Kelly or even Sean Combs, the reckoning. The point what I'm trying to say is that the only argument you could make is not that, oh, 50, why are you targeting black people? because you can't big up surviving R. Kelly when it's the same thing. It's black people who did that too. So the only thing that sticks out is that Fitty didn't like this nigga and Fitty was beefing with this nigga.

And then some people could bring up, well, Fitty may have been accused of certain stuff that might be eerily similar to what he's accused about and you're writing a story about how he's so bad, but maybe you have done the same. That's the only point you could really have. They did Sean Cones a lot. Where was the Epstein documentary a lot?

Where's the documentary on the Roman Catholic church? You never do nothing on them living Caucasian predators. This self ain't. I'm not excusing what Pup did. But at the same time, I'm saying that look at how you go out of your way to embarrass one another and you don't do that with the enemies of the race. Yeah. Yeah, crazy, nigga.

Okay, that's the point. So I'll leave it at that. I did see that Dr. Umar did respond after 50, shut up, nigga. Dr. Umar 50 cent. He responded with like a long-ass post. It was kind of eloquent, a little bit. And let me see if I could read it to y'all.

Here we go. He wrote a whole thing. Maybe. Here we are. He wrote a whole thing. Why can't I find it? Let me just look up Dr. Umar. He damn well issued a statement.

Let me look at his Instagram. Dr. Umar, Instagram. Here we go. Maybe it's on his Instagram. I think it is. Okay. Here we go. So it's a United We Stand.

Dr. Umar in Fortune. I didn't even know that was the last name. He says peace and Pan-Africanism. Mr. Curtis Jackson. It's been brought to my attention that you posted a clip of my recent interview with Rod on your Instagram page. I got no beef with you, big homie. But I always stand on business, and I meant exactly what I said.

I'm proud of your new film studio, and I think we should collaborate on a few projects for the culture. I have a strong base of grassroots support in Shreveport and throughout Louisiana. How about, is this like a job interview? Yo, Dr. Umar, get to the shit! But how about we co-produce a few documentaries and docudramas for our people on the Black experience? I'm a leader in black global, or global black consciousness, the most popular black scholar in the world. And I got a black youth ready on all continents.

I was a fan of power, raising K and the BMF. But the time has come to turn the corner and start producing more socially progressive and culturally enriching content for our community, especially the youth. Put up or shut up. I'm ready for a real independent black TV and film revolution. Let's get to work, big homie. Tomorrow's promise to no man.

All we have is now. Most requested scholar. Yo, Dr. Umar. Brother, I fuck with you, but this was a goddamn disgrace. Actually, I've seen this thing before I didn't read until I'm on stream. Yo, Dr. Umar, bro. Bro,

pick your head up for some fucking air gang. Wipe that glaze off your face, homie. Come on, gang. Brother, I know they're locking you out of your accounts. I don't know what type of fraud fraudery is happening when it comes to you.

Not necessarily you, you're doing it, but look like, you know, people are playing with you. We like you and I ain't going to allow to you. Like, when I start seeing people embracing you, I thought you were supposed to be our Martin Luther game. You and Tariq Nishid.

You, Martin Luther, and he over here, Malcolm X. But, brother, I ain't going to lie, some of the fraudsry and when I realized your top issue was no bunny hopping, I realize I'm like, yo, I like you, Dr. Umar, and I won't speak ill of you because I know you stand for some good shit. But this was disgraceful. Because you caught this man out because he did a documentary that you felt was tearing down the black community,

but not only tearing down the black community, the black community was tearing down a black man that was powerful in the culture. I know you weren't defending, did he? But the point of why you critiqued him was that he wouldn't do a documentary tearing a white man down. How the hell did you write this whole statement basically offering up your service talking about you're the most requested scholar? Yo, let's let's do, let's collaborate. Yo, what the fuck? You should have stood on business as you said in here.

said right here, but I always stand on business. This wasn't about him collaborating with you. He never thought to collaborate with you, and everybody knows 50 is slimy nigger. He don't want to collaborate with you. His goal was to punk you, just like he's punking Mano and Jim Jones and him, and they had to run to the bank and wire $200,000.

Mr. Ifantunde, what you should have really said to him, Hey, I don't want to tear you down with me responded. That's fine. Because I do think your studio could help the black community and the black progress of some of the things I'm pushing in the initiatives. However, we were talking about this documentary that you produced surrounding Sean Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, Brother Love, Combs.

You should have addressed that in no way in this goddamn message. Have you addressed it? It felt like as soon as 50 gave you the attention, you submitted your resume, basically saying, brother, listen, fuck did he. Just give me a job. Let's work together. Me and you, we could do some good shit. That seems facetious.

Am I tripping chat? Let me open the chat here. I might be tripping. I might be tripping. If I'm tripping, say, ah, you wild it. By the way, there's nothing wrong with him trying to collaborate with 50 cent, but come on. The reason why 50 responded to you is because you critiqued him for doing a ditty doc.

Not that he said, hey, is there any black leaders that want to come to my studio to work on black empowerment stuff? Does 50 even look like that type of nigga? He ain't look like Kendrick Lamar or Jay Cole. Does 50 even look like when he marching ass like, yo, we're going to be all right, mice, all that's thing is, fuck no. The nigga produced power. He'd been producing, 50s producing stuff about drug dealers and crime.

Power. BMF. He's not trying to produce some shit about, you know, the honorable, come on. He ain't trying to do that. All right, some people say, I'm tripping. What I'm saying is that Dr. Umar look crazy on this. you came to him about him producing a doc about a black mogul

and you felt like that was tearing down black people and instead of you saying, brother, I don't like that you did that. You basically showed him your credentials and resume and then try to pitch some new things. Now, granted, that could be part of the solution. But 50 never sought you out or responded to you because you were offering a solution.

He responded to you because he didn't like your critique. and when you responded to the fact that he didn't like your critique, all you said was that you stopped mentioning the critique. That's the problem, if you ask me. All right. Speaker of music says Dr. Umar is a cancer to our culture Ebro thought Drake was. I won't say that. I do believe that this wasn't the most, it wasn't the best year for him.

It started to make this question a few things. And again, I might be a fool when I say this. But, you know, I'm one of those people when I read the Bible. I'm like, so you're telling me that we're reading the Bible. And we got to read that God sent his son here 10,000 years ago for some other people who existed in that other time. But we out here struggling now, he won't send his son now for us? Then I got to think about this. So you want to tell me that the greatest leaders of our time, the black people,

leaders Malcolm X and Martin Luther King they only existed in that time who are we stuck with out here now so I've always said maybe not the same message because we're not going through the same plight you know part of the greatness of Martin and Malcolm is that they were under threat of being assassinated if they continue to go down a certain path most people like I don't think Dr. Umar is under threat of being assassinated so when I compare him to these people You might be like, what the fuck you're talking about? But I'm saying that who's the black leader in terms of rhetoric, ideas and whatever it is? I've thought it was Dr. Umar and Tariq Nishid.

There's a few niggas who like talk well, like, um, Roland Martin's things like that. Them niggis are just scholars. They don't got anything going on. Like, like, these guys, I feel like they galvanize people. So I've said like, yeah, you know, maybe that's what they are. but when I hear shit like that, I'm like, what the fuck? Anyway, I wasn't trying to criticize Jesus. I was just trying to say, I do believe in every era.

There are people that represents the overall picture. And I'll leave that back. Okay. All right. Before I get to the Atlanta, so this is the last topic before I get to Atlanta. Waleigh, not talking about the intern. That's one of our chat nays. Wale the rapper

about like two months ago they had like an interest in run in right essentially Wale was at I forgot where it was this was

this was at a award show I believe and they bumped into each other and Kai did not know who Wale was they actually bonded over like

a video game. When he got in the vehicle, he's reading his chat. His chat said, yo, you know who you just met? That's Wale. And basically, he kind of admitted, like, I really don't know him. I don't know this guy that well. And it appears that Waleigh definitely took a lot from that encounter, and we're going to play what he said recently. It tells out. So he sees Waleigh, he's walking to his vehicle. What you playing on your Nintendo Switch? So he had a Nintendo Switch. Smash.

Smack, bro? I'll beat you. Now, I think people believe that Waleigh was under the impression that Kai knew who he was. But he didn't. So Kai gets in the car. And his cameraman and security kind of clue him in. Oh, my God, that was somebody crazy. So he says that was somebody crazy.

I don't know who that was. By the way, you know, Kai's a very honest person. It's not like he wasn't trying to ego. He's looking at his chat. Oh, that was somebody, like, important? This is maybe at the Grammy. Was it the Grammys? I don't know.

The whole chat knows him. Waile? Walee? What he do? Now, here's the thing. We got to keep reminding you all. Kaysen that is 24 years old. When was Waleigh last hit?

It's not on chill. I'm going to tell you when his real last hit was. And respectfully to Wale, I'm not trying to disrespect you. But I'm telling you how a young, you know, you know, early 20s kid might see you. I'm not talking about myself. It's my job to know music. So I'm at a different, you know, I could be held to a different standard

because my bread and butter is that, right? So if you were like, you know, Ak, you don't know that I dropped an album last year. If I don't know it, I, you know, granted, I might be busy or whatever, but like, I get it. You know, I'm a little different. Kai is not, right? It says elite artists. Let's just look.

I think his last hit. Let me see. Wow, it's been that long? And I'm talking about, like, legit hit as elite artists. Wow. Well, Anche was in 2019. I don't remember that song. I ain't know.

All right. Before then, what would we be talking about? My pretty young thing? What year was this? That was 2015. Yeah, 2015, he was still poppy. Yeah, uh-huh. Let me see if anything happened after 2015 in any of these situations.

Yeah, 2015. Okay. Why did I say that? Okay, let's say his last real hit is in 2015. Yo, if I just showed you out that Kaizen, that is 24, 10 years ago, Keisinaat was 14. Do I think Keisenat would be knowing what the hot contemporary artist that's not like lit?

And what I mean, like, I'm talking about he doesn't make club music all the time. He's more of an artist. Do I think that that guy should know everything about him? No. So I think Kai's being honest. I don't think Kai's not playing at all. Oh, work. Oh, shit.

And then later on this happened. That shit making me look. Lotus Flower Bomb dropped. Look, Lotus. In 2013, I believe. No. Wow. That's that long ago?

2012. Lotus flower bomb dropped in 2012. Bro, that's 13 years ago. Oh, shit. And then later on this happened. That's making me look crazy right now. Just like, you know. That's making me look crazy.

The exchange that we had in the hallway is, it's like, my bad, bro. I mean, I. So Waleh walks back up to him, and I think that's where it kind of got more awkward. Because he walks back up and he says something to Kai, and Kai still seems clueless. but it's more of Wale's reaction when people are like, yo, this guy cares about this interaction that much, right? And people felt like, yo, as a rapper,

you shouldn't be doing this, but, yo, Kai's more famous than most of these rappers. That's making me look crazy that the exchange that we had in the hallway. Oh, my bad, bro. I mean, they're running with it, but we'll talk later. What do y'all think about this, man?

Now, he was talking to Snoop on the other side. Snoop is just marginally more famous. guy. Now, I played this recently, which was, you know, Kai Sinette kind of coming out and speaking on his mental health. It's on his page right now. Hello, everybody. I'm currently on my laptop right now. And I appreciate everybody who's been sending me birthday wishes as today is my birthday. So I felt like it was the perfect day to be transparent and honest with you guys. A few days ago, I spread awareness on mental health and how important it is to take care of yourself. And honestly, for the past few months, I've been struggling with mental health out of self-doubt

and fright of pursuing goals that I really want to achieve. And the reason I've really been in my head is because I just wanted to do more. I've gained to realize that I'm a true creator and I'm very passionate about creating. And I have other goals and things that I just want to achieve and do more of and I would love to show you guys what I've been working on for the past few months through my more personal page which is KC3 hidden. I am going to go private soon on that page so whoever gets in gets in but I just want to let you guys know that sometimes it is important to take care of your mental health and honestly it's been getting better it has but out of frustration and fear I just been in my head for

some reason. I never had this feeling before, but I wanted to be known that I truly want to create. And I don't know if I'm getting mature or I'm just looking at things at a broad point of view, but I am so passionate. Okay, so that pretty much happens. And then Wale, I guess he saw that before he went on his new interview and Wale has done an interview with Shannon Sharp where I want to hear how you guys think about this, but he basically, he basically said he feels like Kai gets it now. And listen to his conversation.

Gars it on. Like, you, I'm 20-year-old. Like, you feel me? Like, that's what they're acting like I did. And I'm like, yo, I'm just saying you made me look crazy. Like, I don't, I feel like uncomfortable in this room. But, like, I'm like, at that moment,

I'm like, damn, everybody making me to bid on the internet just because I was like, you know, like, just because he didn't, no, it was just, I was just confused. And then when they said, I pressed them, I was like, oh, oh, so that means I got to leave. Like, I got to go. I got to go to my hotel for like a couple days. Like, it was just, it was like not that. I didn't, I don't expect nobody. I introduced myself to at my meet and greet sometimes. Like, that's how I move.

Like, I don't be like, you got to know who I am. I was upset for like five days. days in a row. So when he's talking about mental health at the stream awards, I'm like, yes, yes, yes, mental health. You get it now. Imagine giving your life to this game and then you go to the awards to just support the culture that you've been a part of for 13 years and then somebody who asked you to play a video, like ask you, yeah, yeah, let's play one day. Like, because you saw them last year and then you go online and everybody's like, yo, because that's not, he didn't know who you was. That was funny.

while late I fuck with you me and you've bonded recently when we both weren't fucking with me trust me we're both laughing in the DMs it's all good but I do want to tell you again I'm only speaking

and I'm not trying to disrespect you your mental health issues and I'm not belittling them because I believe it but it's different from what Kai's going through I talked about it yesterday it's what a creator goes to and because you're a rapper

you have a different sense of understanding. I understand Kai and I relate to him more than I will relate to you. For you, your mental issues are going to come in in terms of mental health that you're working on your craft, this and third, and you want to kind of be accepted for it. And in moments where you're slighted, ignored, or this and third are underappreciated, that does fuck with you because you've dedicated your life to it.

the kind of at least maybe a silver line in and i don't know maybe people will disagree but not that's kind of still similar with kai honestly this is what streaming is you give you give your life as entertainment to the point it drags the life force out of you that when you're not streaming you feel empty. And it's almost like you have to go through it. And when you do it for too much and for a long enough period, you have to figure out what makes you happy. Because it's a non-normal reality of being on stream consistently.

When you went to that streamer award, right, or not streamer award, it was like Grammys, I believe. When you went there, you are Waleigh, the artist, but the man just trying to get acknowledged. So Kai Sinat is this thing and this almost, and I hate to say it, and I hope he doesn't get this, feel disrespectful of how am I going to characterize this. He's like this hamster on a wheel with cameras in front of him, just trying to get people to laugh and have a good time.

So when you go to the awards show, you get to just chill. And you walk in there with your Nintendo, whatever. he's in there like, how could I make an award show that is generally not appealing to my audience, lit and fun? That's where the mental issues of most streamers are going to be. Because streaming is not a pre-planned, contrived thing, I'm telling you, I used to feel it. I would sit here for four hours,

and I'm still looking at, yo, did I do a good enough job? You get what I'm saying? Like, you're like, damn, they're used to this. I want to do this. And that's where I want to point out the difference between Kai. Yo, Kai jumped out of fucking plane. Nigger cut his hair. Not saying cutting hair is a big thing, but like, he's,

I'm pretty sure Kai is trying to figure out what makes him happy outside of entertaining people. Because for the last three years of his life, as he's ascended to be the number one guy. And by the, remember when I looked up like, you know, this, his burner Instagram, yo, he's at the, he's at the height of, of clout. The dude gained 1.2 million followers in a day. When I, when I first seen it yesterday, he was at 1 million. He's now at 2 million, 2.2. And that's the only difference I want to say.

And I think, I think Wale is trying to prove his point about mental health. Because I do think Wales went through some mental health. hell stuff. But I don't think it's the same. Like, if Wale said that, hey, I've been an artist for so long, I've given my life to this, and I don't know, it's hard for me to switch in between being a father. I don't know if he has kids. Being a father or being like a brother or being whatever, that's what streamers are going through. When you see a niggist stream for 60 days, you can't even gain meaningful relationships in life

with people and continue them if you're constantly on stream. So these people, they're going to go through a whole different arc of, you know, self-doubt, mental health issues and other things. Anyway, let me let me finish his point. And you're in a room full of your peers. Right. And I was like, wait, let me go hollering real quick. And through my vantage point, I'm just like, yo, that made me look crazy, bro. Like, I just didn't like how I felt in the moment.

I'm like, yo, bro, we come here to celebrate the culture. And I'm looking at all these people like, yo, he doesn't know who you are. It's so funny. And I'm watching all these people receive awards. It just was like, let me say something for our role. And they took it as me pressing the young and out. And I'm like, bro, I got PTSD.

I can't even look at them little cameras no more. I start sweating when I see them joints. I'll be looking at everybody. Anybody that has the archetype that could be on a Twitch, I'd be like, make sure ain't no more there. You know what I'm saying? But also, I think the, I think,

I wanted to make it a teachable moment. I wanted to go on the stream and talk about the generational divide and how that happened. And like, you know, just have conversations around how these generations go. Because it's like,

it's a deep conversation we can have. And I've been dying to have that journey on stream with like a, like a, like a, the right people of both sides of the culture. Because, I mean, he's, he's been, he's accepted a role whether he really,

planned or not to be one of the voices in hip hop. Correct. You know, whether you like stuff or not, like we still have to preserve the culture, you know what I'm saying? The guys who came before. Actually, maybe me and Wally at some point would talk about it. I disagree Wally again. You know, if y'all take it upon yourselves to make Kaisenat

and as complex ranked him in the number one media personality in hip-hop, it's not like he signed up for it. So to feel like he needs to know the full history or the artist that have came up to build that sound or this particular part of hip hop. That's not what he's doing. He's just kind of like doing his thing. And that's where I blame the artist. They're trying to blame Kai. I blame them.

Y'all have to have some understanding that a streamer is not a radio station. Kai knows hip-hop, but he knows what he likes. he's never purported nor does he care to know shit that he don't like just for the sake of knowing and I feel like artists

don't want to take the accountability of saying hey we have no more options so we have to go to Kai stream but you go in there because you're trying to get some buzz off him doesn't mean he needs to know all about you

hey I'm like finish this for me the GZs the JZ's like the ludicrous is like the ludicrous is like, you know, like we preserve the culture. We preserve, you know what I'm saying? It's not like, oh, you're older before. Like, you feel me? So that was, that's what that was about.

I wish I would have handled it differently, but at the same time, I definitely thought it could be a teachable moment for, because a lot of the artists that come from my, they don't know how to interact with y'all. Because y'all act like y'all don't like nothing that don't sound a certain way or whatever. Like, y'all like hip hop for a certain other reason.

So some of them don't know how to talk to them. And some of them is like, oh, we getting money. We don't care about what y'all guys say. So, you know, the goal after that was to have a teachable moment. But we couldn't get the comment from a guy. So shout out to him now, man. Don't miss the rip. Okay.

Why did I see some other shit that made Wale look a little crazy? Like they said Wale stayed in the hotel, like for extra days, Walee Hotel, just to, you know, let me see. That got to be false, right? Let me see. By the way, we're going to get to Atlanta stuff next. He says he was so upset he didn't recognize me. He stayed in this hotel.

Oh. Like, talk about mental health. He didn't know who you was. That was funny. And you're in a room full of your peers. Right. And I was like, wait, let me go hollering real quick. And through my vantage point, I'm just like, yo,

that made me look crazy, bro. Like, I just didn't like how I felt in the moment. I'm like, yo, bro, we come here to celebrate the culture. And I'm looking at all these people like, wow, roll. And they took it as me pressing the young and out. And I'm like, bro, I got PTSD. I can't even look at, just have conversation. Whether you like stuff or not for, because a lot of the artists, you know,

to go after that was to have a teachable. Shannon to get $50. Jay Z. The generation's point. I'm just like, yo, I ask you to play a video. Like, ask you. I don't be like, you got to know who I. Wait, where did he say that?

Did I miss it? Probably did. Well, like, I'm like, at that moment, I'm like, damn, everybody making me the bid on, on the internet just because I was like, you know, like, just because he didn't, no, it was just, I was just confused. And then when they said, I pressed him, I was like, oh, oh, so that means I got to leave. Like, I got to go. I got to go to my hotel for, like, a couple days. But it was just, it was like not that. Oh, that's the part?

I don't expect nobody. Okay, okay. These captions are misleading. It makes it seem like, yo, he, he stayed in his hotel like stalking Kai to be like, Kai, you don't know me? Like, okay. All right. All right, that's misleading then.

That's misleading. All right. That's the Wally and Kai's and that stuff. We got to get to the main topic. And thank you guys. If you guys have waited up for me. I appreciate you guys. We're going for a 30 for 30.

And I absolutely adore you guys for, you know, being here and so supportive with me. So today got kicked off in a very interesting way. Now, I don't know if these tweets have been deleted, but we're going to start from the get-go. All right? Let's see. All right, bet. One thing I like about Savage, he doesn't delete tweets. Now, I'm not going to lie to you, and I want to give you my perspective.

Okay. So yesterday, you know, everybody's on me. You act. When are you going to post the sales projections for 21 Savage, this and third, which, by the way, you know, I did post it. Shit, I haven't going to lie to you. You know who called me? It was like, act. You better post it because I'm on his ass.

I'm on his British ass. We're going to get the T. Like he's always got some joke. He's trying to 6'9 and something like, Yo, you got to post it. Because he just wants to be in the comment section strolling, right? And I said I did post it. I got a new page.

It's called Chart Demics. Okay. If you guys care about your favorite rapper's numbers, who's selling, who's flopping, who's bought in. You know, we have random arbitrary stats there at times. Yo, this album has been number one for this amount of weeks. You can see it about any artists. For example, you can see it about Mariah Carey.

You could even see it about comedians and then even down to Taylor Swift. Okay. So we have launched, and this is again within the Academy Network. So people expect, you know, I've, there's a group of people that blame me for introducing numbers to the local fan that people. that people now keep saying flopping, right? Be like, yo, you flopped. And I disagree. I think 50 did back in the day,

but they're saying that, you know, you're the one who's kind of done it over the last 10 years. They're like, hey, this person's on pace. Granted, there's chart data and all these type of things, right? So people were getting on me yesterday to say, yo, act,

you've been opposed to shit, man, about Savage, right? And, you know, we talked about on stream. Savage is on pace to do about like 54, 55,000 records first week with the, The album called What Happened to the Streets. And, again, just to show you the proof we did tweet about it.

We did a tweet about it. And the tweet is here. You're going to see it. And by the way, I want to keep it fair. I, you know, I have a team, but I authorized and I put this tweet out because I wanted to be fair. Okay? 21 Savage, what happens to the streets is on paces of 53K first week. Now, not going to lie, when I put that out and obviously, whatever, it was quick and quick and swift.

But there was other pages posting their own shit too. I noticed instantly, oh, I guess he deleted it. No, he didn't. Future tweeted around the same time, the biggest in the shit. Interesting. Now, obviously, I thought this was random. I think a lot of people were looking at, like, is that a little shady? I was getting told from fan pages and other people.

Yo, there's something there. I kind of dismissed it. But today, I seen Savage send off a whole bunch of tweets. Before we get to the tweets where he calls people's names out. So right when 21 Savage's predictions come out, Future, who hasn't tweeted for a while, randomly tweets out the biggest in this shit. Okay?

At like, it was pretty much 30 minutes after the projections came out. He says, I'm the biggest in the shit. Then we see 21 Savage kind of come back a few hours, and then he tweets out for the ones that don't get it right now, it'll sink him later. I was lost too. But he says in his tweet, the realist in it with the emoji.

Now, I didn't know these two were, you know, possibly either talking to each other or whatever, but I realized Future used his emoji, Savage used his emoji, and I'm like, okay, but they might just be piggybacking off what these. other says. Then Savus seems to make it a little bit more obvious. The biggest change all the time. Future said the biggest. Hmm. Interesting. Now, I was confused. I hit Savage a few times.

Didn't get him. And I get it. Doing his album promo shit. But of course, I got to do me. Now, from what we know from the jail calls, and we're going to get into this a little bit later, too, because he sent off a bunch of tweets. We don't see Savage tweet this month, so clearly he wanted to get some point across. Like last year, was it last year when these jail calls came out or was it earlier this year?

Everybody was saying Savage is like this real ass nigger, this and third, which, you know what I mean? I believe as well, you know, shit. Truth me, so, you know, and I'll be very transparent. my relationship with Savage anytime me and him are on the phone, man, half the time we're not even talking about music.

He's one of the only people who I feel like, yo, I remember he went to Jamaica not too long ago. We found out, I know y'all keep with the British joke, but we found out that his family, his family is actually like family family is from Jamaica. His family's from the same parish as mine.

Savage was like literally probably like 15 minutes from where I grew up in Jamaica. And he kept calling me because he wanted to find out if his family was related to my family. Because that would be kind of crazy because shit, you know, we're kind of cool. But like we could have been ended up being related. Maybe like second, third, fourth cousin. Who knows? And that's how if you ever been to like some type of country type place, they'd be like,

yo, do you know the Simmons? So he's calling, do you know this? Do you know that? And I only say that to say to y'all, my relationship. with Savage isn't really just a music relationship. And I have usually mostly music relationships with, where if something happened to me or if I wasn't like, you know,

talking about music, they wouldn't reach out to me. So that's why I say that. And I've always looked at him as someone who's really, he's never like giving me an image. Like there's certain rappers when I get on the phone with. they're I'm only getting I'm only I'm getting a rapper

like Savage will call me and he'll debate me like he's a chat nigga like because he watches his streams I fuck with him and um I say that to say because my understanding of him as a person

is different but that doesn't also make for me to be picking up for his music either right like he's said it before like act we cool but like you like other people's music more than mine

it's fine I don't care right so I'm giving you the the context of how I've ever seen savage from my lens because if you also do look at what I said I said you know some people probably thought it was corny whatever but he eventually tweeted out he said last year I was the realest nigger for trying to stop thug from exposing gunna but now I'm fake now I don't know where he's getting that from I don't know where he's getting that from The reason why I responded, and I said you're the realist, is because I've only seen him do real shit that rappers wouldn't do. Do you get what I'm saying?

I'll give you examples. 21 Savage is really good friends with Meek Mill. 21 Savage, obviously, I don't know what their conversation is. But clearly Meek was not liking me, was probably really hating me at a point. 21 Savage put me on the phone with him and said, yo, listen, and he said to Meek, he said, Meek, I fuck with this guy right here. I fuck with you, but I fuck with him right here.

And I want you guys to talk and figure it out. I'm going to sit here on the phone with y'all. And I'm going to be honest with you, I respected that. I respected that a lot. In any situation where he's ever been cool with someone, and by the way, it gives more context to me in how he deals with everything. everything because y'all give me what y'all think and this is what he also told me and this is

really shit he say oh listen he said he says before i let two people i fuck with get to the point where they do some shit that i'm i where someone gets hurt that i got to pick aside i'm always going to try to put them on the phone get them together i think that's some real shit I think, you know, I don't think nobody, the conversation about Savage, nobody's ever acted or put out like he's pussy. Like, that would be the furthest from any conversation happening. But when you hear the leaked tapes to anything, Savage is always the person saying, yo, let's get these people together. He got Metro on the phone with Drake. he's trying to squash that

he's the one and I know some people felt that well well you set the thug on the call man well why don't you man how about you don't just disavow him just use you's gonna and you can make money off of him

some people didn't like that however you know the overall point yo listen even just treat it as business but don't shit on his career and try to kill it. I've never seen any artists beyond savage who seems to be trying to bridge a gap with other artists that got issues that don't necessarily got to do with him.

However, what has to do with him is that he's friends with all of these people. Now, in my opinion, and this is why I said, I feel like that's real. In my opinion, I heard the jail call. And by the way, he didn't think that was coming out. Doug didn't think that was coming out. So when he was trying to, like, do I got to play the call?

He says to Thug, he says, man, sly, I don't really think gonna, I don't think it's like that, but I get it. And this is one thing. And, you know, when it comes to like street stuff, Like me and him ain't talk because he don't really give a fuck about my opinion. I'm a logic guy. So like, you know, he's a smart guy.

So he would talk to me about logic shit. He's not going to be like, yo, I can't what you think about this is this street. No. If we ever mentioned that it's not going to be something we both agree on because we're not the same people. Like he's a street. I'm not. But he's logical too. So if you ask me, I actually believe that when it comes to the majority of issues and I haven't

heard anything yet. And if y'all could tell me, y'all hear anything yet. And no, oh, no, no, no, no, this is my one blames to Savage. And I never told him this. So I don't know if you'll ever hear this. But because he doesn't ask my opinion about it. But I would say this to him. This is his one thing. I could tell he's a loyal nigga. And sometimes when you're loyal, you become loyal to a fault. And the reason why I wouldn't say that to him is because I know,

I know. And it's been a situation. I've been around Savage where I'm also around people that hate my guts, but on Savage Word, everything is cool. You know why? Because he's telling them, I know, maybe Ack is all the way wrong in Yalamans,

but that's my nigger. That's a loyal person. And that's what I think the internet is not understanding. Now, I'm not here just to preach a savage. Just let y'all know. But I'm trying to give some context because today, and I was trying to get in contact with him

the whole day, I was trying to figure out a lot of these things. I was trying to figure out, why are you even tweeting? Right? Because at first I was like, I hope you're not tweeting because of people reacting to sales. And that's not what I believe it is. You know, I've said this about Atlanta before. I believe there's a lot of fractured relationships.

There's a lot of people having to either pick aside or been forced to pick aside that has fucked up the entire ecosystem and not just about music. It's also fucked it up about how these people carry themselves. And I think it's gotten to the point of morally, where they're like, yo, listen, I'm not a fake nigger. And that's why we're getting a very interesting outlook on everything.

So let's start with the obvious. Let's start with the obvious. And I want to be very clear here because, you know, sometimes I feel like, because people feel like I'm cool with him, they think, I'm not his mouthpiece. And by the way, he might not be happy

with some of the things I said, because it's just going to be, is what it is. And some of the stuff I don't know, right? Like, I don't know some of the street shit. But his series of tweets today gave more insight than him being on all those calls because I realized, and this is what I was saying about baby, and I'm not trying to throw it on nobody else.

Pause. I was very interested to see, and I think people have been trolling about it, oh, y'all just scared a thug. Does anyone not have the same idea or opinion of thug about all of this stuff with Gunna and everybody else? Because I do think that's part of why people are looking at things the way they are. This is why I believe you had Rallo, you had Woody, you had all these people almost like banning together saying, no thug is manipulating everyone.

He's dividing people. He's putting people against whoever. He's making this guy don't want to work with this guy. Rado came out and said, yo, me and baby work very cool, but Thug made sure he could. So I started looking, I'm like, are these guys controlled by young Thug? I think that's had a trickle-down factor where fans are looking at like, well, if these guys have their own mindset. And by the way, and again, Savage, please don't be mad at me. But, you know, we could talk.

But I'm going to be honest. I think Savage tweeting today was the equivalent of Wham not picking up the phone. Because I believe that the internet is looking at both guys as being able or being like some pawns or like guys who don't have their own brain and they're just going on whatever thugs orders are. But going back to what I said, I don't think that's what it is. I think it's loyalty. Both of these guys were sending money from what I heard to thug and his family, talking to him almost every day.

If your man tells you, yo, this is a situation out of loyalty, you defend him, especially when he's at his lowest moment. You ever heard a thing where it says, you know somebody's demands where if you're on the club and you step on somebody's shoes and they push you and y'all get into a fight

your man gonna just he might knock a nigga out for you this and third that's how he's supposed to get down now when y'all all go into the car he's gonna be like bro didn't I tell you brother

just stay in the section why you go over there you stepping on nigg's shoes and shit that's why we fight but in the moment he ain't supposed to be like yo whoa I ain't gonna jump in this one because I know

it's loyalty. And to me, that's what I felt Baby and Savage were also thinking about. But we never heard them vocalize it. We still haven't heard baby vocalize it. We heard thugs say pick up the phone, but we haven't heard him say anything in terms of acknowledging that. I felt like,

and I'm jumping ahead here because I'm going to really intricately break all this down as best as I've seen it because I was going down a rabbit hole because I was just like y'all. I don't know if this was y'all, I felt like all these Atlanta niggas got along. I thought they all loved each other. So some of these tweets are like confusing me.

So yeah, let's start from the beginning. I've seen news made it posting. And this is where I go. I don't know if you guys follow this page. You should. It's a really good page. A lot of times you can see I come in my mind. Atlanta stuff, I get it from them, or I got a few niggies in Atlanta, they might call me and tell me some shit.

I'll be honest, right? They identified it really quickly. When they posted future shit yesterday, the biggest in this shit, then they posted savage shit, the realest in this shit, and the biggest change all the time. Hmm, it made me really interested in possibly knowing if Savage and future, if there's an issue there. I don't know. I thought all these Atlanta niggas got along. I mean, I guess now they don't like gunna, but I thought everybody got along. So I started doing some digging.

And I'm on Instagram and people say, nah, yo, you could go on YouTube and see like they have it. and I'm going to be honest with you I know Future and Thug had an issue at one time Remember when they were tweeting at each other? Does anybody remember that? Young Thug, Future, B, if it was on Twitter, actually. It was an internet argument. Apparently was an ignited by Metro interested

by mixtape culture. I remember it was like, boy, slowdown, was dropping all that trash. Remember that? So every day I wake up, new mixtapes are falling out of the sky, and they say, yo, who are you talking to? So put some names on that shit, little boy he said nigger music can never sound nowhere like mine i think you guys were um

i think if you guys were to stop drinking so much cheap liquor and high-tech syrup you'd be able to think before speaking and typing future jumped in you know you'll never have the juice like that thugs said what juice so okay oh the juice that metro ran with oh okay they says shit like this made me realize these niggas are really sensitive in the studio together throwing subliminals on their own teammates. Metro said you got to be crazy if you think I sub-tweeted Thug. That's corny. People are allowed to believe what they want, though.

True or not. Metro then says, Thug, I'm in the city at the spot right now, bro. And we know each other in real life so you can pull up whenever, cuss. You know I ain't no ho. Then Doug said, Metro, I'm going to beat the shit out of you fool. One thing I like about Doug, he ain't delete nothing. Then he put a smiley face. Wow.

Now that escalated a little bit more. Yeah, I remember when it was like slowed down on dropping. Future had said, yo, boy slowed, no, no, young thugs said that. He said, boy, slowed down on dropping. Oh, that BS music. That's when Future was dropping a lot. Now, eventually that shit got squashed, right? They got squashed.

We could probably get here and get some. I covered it too. You feel me? Okay. Too much FaceTime, brother. So cool. Now, we also got to remember Thug

was talking about Future on these jail calls recently. So I'm trying to figure out Oh, look. Oh, yeah, I know. Look. Future says... Oh, man.

But fuck it. We ball. Now, we also reach me the fan that said rest in peace to metro thugging that's a pot yeah i was i was getting all that shit now what happened after that right um i don't know let's let's look 21 savage future do they have beef i don't know now okay you know so i was looking if they had issues and when i was looking if they had issues the first thing i looked at was collapsed so i said uh how many times have they collab with each other

young no future 21 Savage song and they did have a song which it was during the mixtape era for Savage called X right we're fucking on my ex bitch right yeah

yeah yeah yeah yep all right cool but ever since that then we really haven't seen Savage and Future collab at all

which is kind of interesting You know obviously You know gun in future Is collared and young thug in future Is collared and you know Savage and Gunna collabed and Savage and Thug collabed

But really we haven't seen Since that debut project We haven't really seen Is this a real zone? I'm done apologize I haven't seen I'm going to

To your jaw Step on the swag When I step on a bra Two dollars in a half Ooh that's a cheap Yeah I don't think this is a real song Yeah

It's not a real song So I've been looking at It looks like It's about been like Six, seven years We haven't seen Any meaningful collaborations With Future

And Savage Which I would imagine If they're all in Atlanta And everybody get along To a certain extent We would see it Like you know People were thinking

There was issues with Baby and Savage and Baby and Savage got a record on Savage's album. So even if there was an issue, which I see Reddits and whatever speculate about it, they clearly are working together, but we haven't seen anything with Future and Savage, and that's where I'm trying to figure out where the problem is, if there was a problem. I don't know. Actually, let me see. Where would have it?

Because, chat, there's nothing that's really like coincidence. Trust me. they got to be a documentary somewhere by the way i remember when when savage came on my podcast in 20 what years is this 2021 he essentially he bigged up future yo he bigged up future more than j z listen this if i want to rap i don't feel like i still would listen to drake for real

it's just i'm a rapper so i understand the work he put in now how hard you go like when you ain't no rapper all them statistics don't mean shit a regular street niggins don't give a fuck about how many times you went number one like how many white people listen to your shit because they don't even think that them because the farthest they think is the club who's selling this club out that's who they think is the biggest niggins like in Atlanta it's it's a lot of niggas who you really can't tell them future ain't bigger than

Drake that's that's always his cap really oh god nigger I used to think that Drake ain't really no big mixtape artists like that how how you got out of your Drake albums you probably really went in the store and bought them motherfuckers. Every future album I ever heard was a bootleg. Niggas was bootlegging it or going to live mixtape. So when

nothing was the same or whatever all that type of shit came out, nigga I ain't knowing how to get to that shit. So he said, he basically said that future was and I think that was the longer thing. We don't have to watch a whole thing. He was basically saying future, you know, people look at

future like they look at Drake in Atlanta. And I was a little bit shocked. They haven't worked together at all. And there was like, I don't think there was beef between them. Oh, a year ago, 21 Savage and Future Beef Explain. Let's hear this. Welcome to him to No.

Ah, hell not. You're here today. Definitely. The future got upset with Drake for doing the call. No, no, no, no. We need a better. We need a better. That nigginshare story why they're not cool. Okay, okay. Who's this?

So when they go to handcuff, he started yelling like a bitch. Help! Help! Nigger, y'all are on trial with a RICO, nigga. Everything y'all's doing is fucking up thug even mowed. If it won, nigga, the guy took down by his crew, it was that nigga. Do you think, uh, they were saying that Drake's did the original when he was going that, uh, future, like shooting like some little subliminal? I mean, he probably was going that future because anybody that knows the real.

deal about down in Atlanta and what goes on in music just period you got to understand I don't this is all allegedly but in my eyes future didn't like when Drake went and did an album with 21 Savage you know what I'm saying because you know what motherfuckers do collab album now I've heard that being honest I've heard that from like just random people I've heard that from industry people, which, like, industry niggins have told me like, yo, Future took that as a disc. Like, yo, why are you going to come, why are you going to do a collab album with another Atlanta rapper when you came and did one with me?

I'm still a little bit, like, skeptical about that because why to fuck with Future Care? Future did, man, like, collab albums, right? He did one with Doug, right? Did he do a collab album with Doug? Future collab. Yeah, super slime. right with young thug yeah he did one with young thugs super slimy right then he did one with juice world too right juice world world on drugs let me see how many does future have he's had four

one with thug one with juice world one with oozy then he has a couple with two with um metro but he also has what a time to be alive with drake so at least six or seven or seven So this isn't all the way accurate. Why the fuck would he care if Drake, if he has six to seven, Drake literally only has two collab, no, three collab albums, one with Future, one with party next door,

and one with Savage. Why would that be the thing? One motherfuckers, they put that shit into the high statute like me and you're going to do collab album for the rest of our lives. You know what I'm saying? This is something big, something anybody never done, Drake and Future.

And then the next thing you know, Drake do a whole one with 21 Savage. And the word that I got, it's all allegedly, I don't know, the word I got, you know, free bands and 21 Savage crew, they don't get alone. That's what, that's all, that's what I'm hearing. I don't know if it's true, but that's what I hear, you know. It's a Leslie, some shit went down.

Motherfucker sold up, some motherfucker sold somebody a, condo and when they bought the condo they didn't know the nigger kept the keys and the door opener and all that shit to get in so when the other nigger went out of town the nigga that sold the cond that sold the condo to and went back in there and took shit what that's all a less that's what i'm hearing i've never heard that that's the first time i heard that chat okay but all right now we're keeping this alleged here chat we're keeping this alleged um we're working through all this we're getting through all the tweets

but instantly this morning when I seen this I'm like well I seen it yesterday with Future's tweet I'm like is future kind of reacting to the news that Savage is selling 53K but I'm like why the fuck would Future be just doing that? Then I've seen Savage's shit I'm like okay Savage's respond so now I'm like

Atlanta's had his food for a long time that you know maybe everybody aren't the best of friends, but we never know the real stories. We never really know the real stories. So we got to find the real stories. I don't know who this guy is. You got to hear it from either the horses mouth themselves

or you got to hear it from some niggas who be knowing the niggas that be around the niggas. I don't know if he's one of them. So that's an underlies. So it's like a street. This ain't got nothing to do. And by the way, when we were hearing even part of the reason that future supposedly was mad at Drake,

it was supposedly, yo, you diss me because you came to Atlanta and did a collab album with another nigger. Now, I always thought, well, how does that other nigger feel or how do you feel about that other nigger if it's polite this? Imagine, all right, me and 6'9 were friends. 6-9 gives me all the interviews One day 6-9 comes

comes out and he says You're doing an interview with DJ Black And I'm thinking You're doing an interview with DJ Black Man, nigga fuck you for that If that's how I feel Not only would I feel entitled to all 6-9 interviews

I might also probably look at DJ Vlad like Man you're gonna do some shit with that ain't shit nigger So Mm. Okay. Yeah, some street shit But, you know,

egos, egos. You know, so that was This was future chance to go at the nigga. And I fuck with future. Yeah. Future the realest nigga to me. Future, you know, future. He ain't cuffing no bitches. You can't find a, you, man,

you show me where Future cuffing the bitch. That nigga fucking them hoars and keeping them moving. Have you ever, uh, ran into future getting your future stories? No, we've been in the studio a few times. Man, speaking of like that whole thing, ATL, have you been keeping up with the whole YSL?

Okay. Hmm. You know, I've been skeptical about that. I wish Future would speak on it. You see, Future don't do interviews. And I wish he did. Because it would sound crazy if he would be mad that Drake did a collab album

with Savage, knowing that, yo, Niggas, Savage is over here... In Atlanta... Savage is over here saying you're better than Drake. Like, Savage is low-key glazing. Like, or at least at that time, he's fucking glazing. Yo, future's the best.

So, like, you should want to be happy for one. It's a lot of niggins who you really can't tell them, future ain't bigger than Drake. That's... That was his capital. Oh, God, nigga. I used to think that. Hmm.

Why Future Haste 21 Savage? Have you heard that Future Hays 21 Savage? hates 21 Savage because of what Drake. Sure, that's a crazy picture. Like, because of what Drake did. For those who don't... Drake. Don't know, there is a beef between Future and Drake,

particularly related to Drake's collaboration with 21 Savage on the album, for loss. Future felt overshadowed by 21 Savage and Drake's project because Drake delayed a joint project with Future in favor of 21 Savage. Future was upset with Drake for doing an album with 21... No, hold on. on. Y'all remember when future Drake?

Remember when they announced What a time to be alive too? There's a video. There's a video of them doing it. Wait. Do you remember that? Okay, that might make sense. But why would you be mad at Savage?

You should be mad at Drake. What a time to be alive too. Here we go. They had announced it. Announce. It was like with some change or something. Fuck. Look oh here we go

He posted a A snippet of What a Time to Be Alive 2 Here we go No no no No That's what a time to be alive One It was something about a free band's OVO chain

Drake Future FBG OVO chain That's what it is Chat I remember everything like Wait Fuck that's not it I remember Do y' y'all remember

That's when they were hinting like yo we're about to run it up again does anybody remember that like 100% I remember they had shown off like a chain and like you could tell like they were almost teasing like you're about to come back again with another like part two look they're teasing it here we go what's that we got to cook that up that too it's already cooked yeah it's already cooked Top secret Yeah Not better

Top secret FVG OVO Unruly Okay And there's There's some of the change I remember It chat

But I'm telling you I got a great memory Okay So look like Drake You know Everybody is Drake man Like you know Drake probably

Tell me Yo listen We're doing Yo we're doing What a time To be alive too And I would imagine I understand

If Future's like Future probably Took it as a big this We don't do what a time to be alive to and you go to Atlanta and grab another rapper and you think you're going up with him?

I can see it. I can see it. Where's that one video? I can't find it. Okay. But they definitely were teasing that. By the way, can I tell a question? What do you think is a better project?

What a time to be alive or versus her loss? What do you think was a better project? Oh shit. I tweeted this two years ago? Yeah, bro, I'd be forgetting my own tweets. What's the Drake, the goat, um, Drake collab project? Now we got to put in, um, uh, some sexy songs for you.

You remember when people kept posting this with me? What do you think was the best one? Anyway. Wow, that's interesting. Okay, cool. So Future had bought Drake an icy FBG ring. It's a FBG. G-O-V-Ring. Okay.

Look like they definitely were getting ready to go do some shit. Okay, so this is making sense now. Let's go back to this guy. Where's the guy? Fuck. Oh, no, no. Oh, we're listening this. Right? The Savage Project, because Drake delayed a joint project with Future in favor of 21

Savage. Future was upset with Drake for doing an album with 21 Savage, as it made their collaborative album less significant in comparison, so he decided to diss Drake on his new album with Metro booming title. There got to be a history to this. I feel like you,

like that guy that mentioned the apartment thing, I've never heard that before, honestly. Never heard that before. But there's no documentaries about this. That's the thing about Atlanta. Even if there's issues, there's no documentary out there. Bring these lyricists of Atlanta,

one through five. You got future, baby, J.I.D., young thug at you. One through five. One through five. I'm number one. Based off lyrics. Yeah, I'm number one. Lyrics.

J. Number two. Thug number three. Baby number four, Pluto number five. Just out of lyrics. Okay, he got future in there. He got future in there.

The thing is, we don't have, yo, when's the last future interview we had? Future interview. The last interview is the one, I remember it. The last interview was like 10 years ago he's done. Or maybe it was Click.

No, no, he did one afterwards. That was the one I think he was complaining about Russell Wilson or some shit. Obviously, these don't count of 10 essentials you can't live without type of shit. What's the last time we had a future interview? Six years ago?

I don't think that's, yeah. I'm talking about a real interview. I don't know. Oh, this was the... Like, Jay-Z say, you know, playing football in the future. What you would have done in the future. I didn't mean it like that.

Like, and I was just like, you're supposed to be bigging up the rap community. You need... In the affair, with NFL. You're supposed to be big enough. Me, anything.

We come from the trenches. I come from the streets. You come from the streets. You're supposed to be bigging me up. Right. You're supposed to be giving that no end. Yeah, that's the last time.

There's like a real interview of him. Bring these lyricists. I'm a land you want to. I can't find too much on it. Five. So maybe if y'all have like a documentary, let me know. 21 Savage

Future Big Bank. What do you say about Future in a Big Bank interview? Didn't he mentioned future in there? I don't know. Anyway. Alright. Am I tripping? Oh, SG Tip.

Stole from FBG. Are you serious? How do you notice? Future don't like 21 because what happened to a little Marlowe. Check Atlantaology. I know what the fuck? Atlanta.

Wait. What's the Atlanta Reddit? Chat, we're going to get to everything. We're just trying to figure out, do they have a beef? Does Future and, does Future and Savage have a beef? We're going to get to the apology, too. What the fuck is this? Okay.

21 Savage. Allegedly the guy who shot 21 Savage and, what the fuck? Yeah, this should be like, Man, Federal when you go on Reddit. Okay, 13 hours ago, Future and 21. Okay, that's the, future officially clearing beef allegations. are 21. Okay, let's read. What the fuck,

that's about? Sat, this is how, this is how you figure out shit. You figure out, like, what's been happening in music. They says,

yeah, they said, this was eight months ago. Y'all, y'all wearing that allegedly shit out. If it ain't confirmed, why you talk about it?

So I'm saying, it's deep in the suburbs. What? I was happy to hear that, too. Well, what was said it had done declared the beef allegations?

Then it was never beefing, for real. her zone six feature in pluto with nudie uh that's when it's it's it got real Atlanta beef if you're not in the A you don't know this all these Ricoh's going around of course they're going to play cool I'm gonna get to the shit all right I can't find it bro I ain't gonna out of you

hey any Atlanta person who want to like put me on some game um I'm wondering there's got to be something behind the future and um savage thing but it's okay since we can't find it for now let's continue because that's what we got to Right. So what ended up happening, and I don't want to give you spoilers or what eventually kind of seemingly escalated real quick. Savage after, you know, kind of seemingly taking some sneakness in or respondent to future and sneakness in him with the, yo, the biggest change

all the time and I'm the realest in it. He then sent out a bunch of tweets where he mentions people. And let's go through these, because this is going to be the important part. He says, Yo, Gunna and Thug. He mentions both of them. He says, yo, y'all niggas fix that shit. Y'all love each other. Nigger, you knew Gunner wasn't those gangster when he told the first time. What the fuck? Now, I ain't going to lie to you, chat. This was one of the most flagrant ones. I think when I've seen this, I try to call Savage's phone, but his phone was off. I haven't going to lie to you, chat. Because truth be. He told, and I love Savage.

This ain't make too much. What do you mean by you knew Gunner wasn't a gangster when he told the first time? How many times did he tell? You knew he wasn't. Listen, what threw me off was when he told the first time. Chad. How we thought this was the first time Gunner told? How many times did he tell?

Yo, he's talking about Gunner like he's an habitual teller. he's a blabber mouth he's a serial snitch he's like what the fuck now it had me going to Google brang gonna lie I google I just Google

I just Google shit verbatim how many times did Gunna tell I'm sorry chat I don't got the patience no more oh shit gonna snitching on CNN oh that's what they're talking about

the crime stopper shit who's music is that come on cut it out So the one we know is this. Please state after each statement whether or not you agree or acknowledge that statements are true. Okay? Yes, ma'am. I became affiliated with YISL around 2016. Is that true as it pertains to you, Mr. Kitchens?

Yes, ma'am. YSL is a music label and a game, and you have personal knowledge that members or associates of YSL have committed crimes in furtherments. of the game. Yes, ma'am. You were present when law enforcement officers stopped a vehicle in which you were present along with Jeffrey Williams, where in hydrocodone, methamphetamines, and a firearm were recovered. These items did not belong to you. Wait, is this the first time he told or the second?

I don't know. I can't keep up. By the way, is this even snitching? Yo, ever since I heard You know, ever since I heard This is my new hero. You don't, you want to know my new hero? Well, I don't like what he did, but like

I feel like I like hypocrites as long as they They're so blatant with their hypocrisy. Who cares? Listen to this. This is my new hero. Here we go. But when the case come around

And the trial come around, Scott a D.A. In this lady house, they don't drunk water in this lady house. that's collaborating all this evidence. That's ill. I told, I told, but butter collaborator this is here.

I snitch, I told, I told, but butter that's collaborating all this evidence. But nobody, everybody's missing all this. It's just that somebody snitch, somebody there's here. I snitch, I told, I told, but but a collaborator all this evidence. minutes. I'm different.

Oh, here we go. And Casso got the rest of the same day. Here we go. I don't feel like I snitch, I told. Yo, chat. I cracked, but I ain't fucked. I fuck my side hole, but I ain't cheat. I ain't gonna lie.

I love this logic. This is my favorite type of logic. Yo, did you crack? Of course. Oh, yo, I fucked her. I ain't said I fucked. I ain't cracked. No, I cracked.

I ain't fucked. I don't feel like I snitch. I told. It's a goddamn difference. I ain't tell the truth, but I ain't lie. I ain't tell the truth, but I ain't lie. I fuck the other bitch, but I ain't cheat. Yeah, I crack, but I ain't fuck.

I like this shit. This one of them ones, still. Somebody said, yo, y'all wasn't scared. I was just frightened. I was just frightened. just frightening. I wasn't scared. I wasn't scared. Give me some more, chat. Give me some more. Give me some more. Let me see who got the best ones.

Yo, I ain't skinny, but I'm fat. I ain't fat. I ain't skinny, though. I ain't skinny, though. I ain't fat. Yeah, I like this. Yo, this is my type of logic right here. Oh, when I pulled up, when I pulled up, like, Yo, the pussy wasn't, yo, the pussy wasn't wet, but it wasn't dry.

It wasn't dry. It wasn't dry. Chat. The pussy wasn't wet, but it wasn't dry. Yeah, I like this logic. Yeah, I like this logic. I like this logic.

The pussy wasn't wet, but that all mean it was dry. Okay, yeah. It's a difference. Yo, I finished, but I wasn't done. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Yeah, that's a good one.

Yo, I finished, but I wasn't done, y'all. I wasn't done. Yo, did you finish? Yeah, I finished, but I wasn't done. I wasn't done. I wasn't done. I like, yo, y'all wasn't horny, but my dick was just hard. My bad.

My bad. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You ain't had no money. I ain't had no money, but I wasn't broke. I wasn't broke.

I wasn't broke. I like that too. I smoke weed, but I don't get high. I don't get high. I don't get high. It's a difference. It's a difference. I smoke weed, but I don't get high.

If you say I get high, that's false. You say I smoke weed? That's true. Y'all drink liquor, but I don't get drunk. I don't get drunk. That's a difference. This is a new mentality, right? head, chat.

I like how he said it confidently, too. Chat, we got to watch. Yo, he has a new part. I don't know Sean Con just titling and crazy. Yo, chat, we got to watch this. Remind me. We got to watch this when we get off. This new one.

Case O'Dadad, when Fulio died, we threw a pizza party in jail. Oh, my God. What type of captions of these, bro? We got to watch this later. Anyway, let's get back to this. Okay. Sagun is on.

as yo I ain't snitch I just told shit right anyway Savage comes out and says yo both y'all fixes you knew Gunner wasn't no gangster when he told the first time now I ain't going to a lot of you do y'all remember the Big Bang interview with our thug

young thugs speaks on Gunner this reminded me that there was a glaring is a glaring issue with thugs speaking about gunna he says in the interview we accepted you after you did bad the first time

oh wet everybody whoever they go ahead nigger doing certain shit and and i look at you in a man like like what they nigger and then i find out you it ain't really nair you can say to me yeah i'ma just look at you like you broke a man cold you broke a code that man with backbone stand up to you broke that code you broke that code you You can talk, you can say whatever you want to say. You broke a man cold. I don't look at you the same. But in real life, I don't even want to hear what you got to say, but you're still supposed

to be a real nigga to say, I'm gonna say it. In the near future, you can't do no interview and say, I ain't got his number. I ain't got it. Did what it is, bro. Yeah. So basically, I don't like, bro. Imagine a nigga. Brough, we find to say why sell is not a game and it must end.

If you rockin with it, you gotta explain this to niggas that I love that look at me like a game. that look at me like a man yeah it's niggas in this world that's gonna black boe though fuck is you doing yeah do you i know a part of interview that is so he was talking about gunna and he said he said we took you in after you know after you did bad the first time that you can for me so wet everybody whoever they go wet nigger i don't got no problem people people work for me right now yeah i gotta say this and it's plea but when you're When you, when you, the ones who you think got the scent. That you let Roscoe get on there and stir that pot.

Home time of niggas who stick together. So that's what I'm on. Everybody. As Wham. As Savage. I got them on the phone to start their beef. And we, other niggas. I got a lot of niggas on the phone to talk about a lot of shit.

I got goddamn Leakee and Ola Rant on the phone. Hey, bro. Me and Gouwop motherfucking big homies in this shit, man. In this rap game, man. We got damn. We, we real niggas, man. We big homers are the rap community. like we ain't doing that

the strip club don't sign that deal with me his daughter your dad I look at it I respect that part do you know what I'm talking about though that's one of the parts that kind of like threw me for a loop

and I guess Savage you know again Savage is a reasonable guy so I know y'all might be like yo this makes Savage look crazy but I think he's trying to say yo your thug

fuck what gunner is saying we knew he wasn't like that because we stuck up for him after he stitched the first time now we're gonna have to figure out when he stins the first time so y'all niggas fix that that shit y'all love each other you knew he wasn't old gangston when he told the first time and we swept it under the rug for you you know he wasn't trying to leave you to hang nigga fuck the streets we ain't get shit but trauma from it

So he's basically saying, yo, you should know. Gunner snitching first time. I'm going to just type in first time. I'm like, look. Oh, this is it? Let's go back to him. He's on trial for murder. You know what I'm saying?

I learned from that. Tony Benton's younger cousin, Sergio Kitchens, says Benton is on trial for murder simply because his friends turned on him. Just go to, just go to see like, you ain't got no real friends out of it. You know what I'm saying? I learned from that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not happy that it happened, but, you know what I'm saying? I'm kind of good to see that be on the outside looking in.

Kitchens is now a member of the neighborhood rap group, SPC, known as Shady Park Click, like his cousin once was. That's why it's come back to that street where it's snitch. No one's wanted to be labeled as a snitch. I don't want to tell on him because somebody might try to come back. kill me or someone in my family. Kitchens says Benton first lied to police because he didn't want to rat out another member, Clarence Carter.

Everybody, like, no, like the streets know. So everybody looking at it like it was wrong because this man let my family member, you know what I'm saying, go down for something he did. Kitchens claims Benton and Carter were both wearing red the night Jasmine Lynn was shot. It was just a coincidence. of how it was put out, like, they actually had on the same exact color. Okay. He just had on the hood, and Devo, then he had on a regular shirt.

Kitchens believes that mistaken identity played a big role in this case. How is this, okay, is it snitching part that he's talking to the crime stopper niggas? Or is he, because he's saying the people who killed so-and-so was wearing red? What's the snitching part? And he knows one thing for sure that his cousin is innocent. And it's not right because you think you have one in jail for the crime, but it's not the right guy. Hmm. So I was Gunna tell him the first time.

Two years ago, Savage speaking on Gunner. I don't know what it is, but I don't know how the hell I'm getting fat because I'm pescatarian. Saw whatever they saw, heard whatever they heard, and went and made music based off of that. But when I say something about how I really feel about Atlanta, like where I'm from, it's like a lot of gun violence, a lot of killings and shootings. That shit is catchy. People like it. If I got, if I.

So it's like, would y'all rather like attention? Like, oh, but disagree with what I'm saying. Can somebody tell me why? All right. He ain't speaking directly to it. Give me some McDonald's. When you come back, I might remember something. Can you do that?

Oh, yeah. Big Mac fries. So the telling is... Did Gunna snitch? Sure answer? Yes. Long answer, definitely. He confirmed why I sell as a gang.

When did he snitch the first time? Is it the other thing? The crime stoppers? Okay, cool. Whatever. Let's keep going with the odd tweets. He then tweets to, um, little baby. He says, yo, you're the one of the realest.

young niggas out this shit. Admit slime was moving a goalpost and we were standing behind him because we love him, my brother. Ah. Now, I'm here to try to explain this. I've seen people tweet at me thinking that Savage was saying that, yo, we move the goalpost for young,

young thug? No. He's actually saying that, which, you're the snitchin argument where everybody has to be perfect is, so tough because what Savage is actually saying is that, yo, we kind of rode for Thug out of loyalty when we felt like this guy was not a candidate or a member of the street. We allowed him to kind of portray that, but we knew he wasn't. That was out of loyalty to Jeffrey. And

Savage at least is admitting himself Yeah, I knew it was fucked up When we embraced Gunner in that capacity But I was getting you back And he wants little baby to kind of like Get on board with this type of thing And be like, yo bro, come on like You know this shit's capping right

Like we knew we knew You know Gunner was on whatever type of time in But we let it pass Now I don't know if that looks too good for like, you know, the music scene or, you know, the gangster scene, I guess, because, like, if y'all are admitting that y'all gave somebody a pass that shouldn't get a pass,

if the streets is based on codes, aren't you, like, fucking up the entire shit? So he tweets that, then he tweets out, Cuevo, offset. I don't know how they got in the group chat. But he said, y'all niggas tell the world, I put you out on group texts. I told y'all to squash it before even got too far, nigga.

If y'all were still together, y'all be unstoppable. rule. He then says, man, last year I was the realest nigger for trying to stop thug from exposing Gunna. But now I'm fake. He then tweets at QCP, who's the boss of a little baby? And he says, yo, I told you to your face. You did wrong at the party. But I never bashed you on the internet because he would have made the city look bad. Because it was never, because you were putting on all the young niggies, it would have fucked the money up. Then nine hours later, he tweets out, try, apologize my brother, I should have called you first. Interesting.

Wow. Let's go back to those jail calls. You took a plea first, so you done there, made, made it cool for everybody else to take a plea, nigga? Like, I don't respect that. But, you know, that's what they're supposed to do. Right. But ain't nobody really, ain't, nobody. Nigger trying to go at him to get caught.

Yes, they are. Dirt, dirt says on to him, but that's it. Like, why in them? They ain't doing all this shit. Wham, I'm unfollow them. Yeah, but I mean, that's just that little boy shit. That ain't really saying that to them. Yeah, but that's still something.

Yeah, but that's still. But get with that. That's what your condition is, right. I ain't saying they wrong. I ain't saying they wrong. I'm just saying. Yeah, they jumped the gun. But look.

Nigger plus they had a conversation with you for that beauty. That's just how I look at it. On Wham did. I hear it. I talked to Wham, so we get on the phone. Hey, you told buddy to them to do that. My head, no, you know, I ain't say, listen. Yeah, but you, but you still at buddy party, though.

Like, I don't know, brus. Like, I don't be. It's that, like, yeah. Yeah, this is kind of sad because, yo, I'm going to be honest with you, man. It feels like Savage wanted everybody to, like, still be cool. Thug is in a fucked up place at the time. He's locked up. He feels away.

He's seen going to take a plea. He feels going to sold him out. Yes, he's here. from Gunnar's lawyer. No, he's not going to take a stand, but Doug is like, nah, fuck that.

You know, you betrayed me. And Savage, it's kind of like he don't, he don't want his homies to not fuck with each other. He tried to push up on me.

He's not going to do that. Yeah. Oh, God. But he ain't lying, though. I'm lying. He did what's wrong, too.

You're a rat, too, but, nigger you, shit. I over, that's true. I understand that, too, but get where?

The only thing I'm going to say, I can't. But it probably didn't know nothing about that before he started fucking with a nigga. And then a nigga really helped him. A nigga really took him where he needed to go. You know what I mean? Now, by the way, to wrap up that future point, look like Big Bank, who did chime in earlier.

And Big Bank is right here. He got Pluto and he got Savage on the phone. You got both of them on the phone. And look like whatever. issues they did have, which we couldn't find much of it other than this whole future felt away about the inclusion of Savage on a potential Drake project in terms of a collab album, because he feels like, you know, we did a collab album first. Why are you going to do with somebody else, right? But whatever that energy was, whether a future did have that energy or not,

clearly now we see both of them on the phone, right? So it looked like they've squashed it to a certain extent. Let's see. Does Savage post anything to his Instagram? No. But it's on Twitter, right? Yeah, none of them even posted it. But Big Bank, he posted it. Yeah.

So it looks like they've gotten on the phone together. Now, wasn't, didn't they ask about Young Thug in his new interview? Nobody ain't been on a billboard all year or this much or something. What bill? No rap artist ain't been anything on what billboard? The top one?

What is it? The one. Ain't no rap song been on the Hot 100? In the top 20. I bet you when this shit come out something. Nobody ain't been on the billboard all year or this month or something. What? No rap artist.

Ain't been anything on what billboard? Do you bring the knife talk? That song was a regular one. Who do you think could be president? They told me bombing on... Hmm. All right. So again, it looks like, and I'm telling you, man, it's hard to kind of like figure out this like Atlanta like lower in the beef that's going on there because they're not telling us much. And when you do get someone like Savage who, it's not like he says he's going to do something nobody, but like he kind of like responded to the future. Like did they have an issue or was there not an issue? Now, the reason why I kind of believe this future and Savage thing too is if you're talking about. and future and Drake, a lot of shit comes up in terms of their whole, you know, Drake and Future stands.

In addition to there's a Tovin-produced single used to this also came in April of 20, winning a Grammy and becoming future before. And it makes Drake and Future album not as a album with instead. I got it being true too. I have it being true. I got it being true. Now, not saying he's thrown at 10. Oh, here we go.

Here we go. Okay. Lab albums with other rappers in the past. the fact that Future had been pushing. Here we go. Big rumor that Future... Oh, it was Norrie. Whatever. Yeah, so everybody heard this shit.

Behind the scenes, as Drake and Future had never gone this long without being seen together. And then, in November of 2022, following Drake's collab album, her loss with not Future, but instead another rapper, 21 Savage, this would only fuel the rumors even more. I heard that's a big rumor that Future is not too happy. This Drake and 21 Savage album. Because Future and Drake did an album before. And it makes Drake and Future album not as important, I would say. As we feel.

According to rumors, Future was upset that Drake teamed up with 21 Savage for an album. While we've seen Future himself do collab albums with other rappers in the past, the fact that Future had been pushing for the release of him and Drake's sequel, What a Time to Be Alive Too. Claiming on Instagram back in 2019 that the album was already cooked up, it is possible Future was a little jealous that Drake chose a different Atlanta rapper to do an album with instead. I got it being true too. Yeah, I think that future is jealous.

I have it being true. I got it being true. Now, not saying he's throwing a temper tantrum in his new eight figure house. But I think he looked at his phone with one of those mean faces. But again, while nothing was ever confirmed, another year past was still no sign of the two together. However, speculation would only skyrocket in 2023 when Drake dropped his album for all the dogs. With the deluxe edition totaling out at a long 29 tracks, and including features, from countless industry rappers including 21 Savage, Yeat, Jay Cole, Chief Keefe, and Liliati,

to name a- Is the last collab with Future and Drake wait for you? It better not be. What is the last collab with Drake and Future? Better not be wait for you. Wow, it is. Wow. Keep in mind, like Future was like mad odd when he was talking about that album.

Like you'd just not want to talk about it, whatever. A few, not one of them was his formerly frequent collaborator, Future. Also seeing as the fact that Future did not repost or share Drake's album on social media like he typically always had in the past, at this point their beef was all but confirmed. And then, just four months later, it was. In March of 2024, Future and Metro Boomin teamed up to literally shake the entire rap game as we knew it. But the release of We Don't Trust You... No, no, no. There was more shit.

when look future this here we go he get asked about the collab with Drake and he basically had this ominous like type of thing he says it didn't happen never happened I think I think he had gotten asked about what it's time to be alive yeah right here lastly what a time to be allowed it never happened you know he disavowed like the full album that him and Drake worked You see him showing off chains, you see Talbang Yang a couple of times, FBG. His ovial chain, not there. It never happened. You also recruiting the help of Kendrick Lamar, it was immediately clear that they were trying to take out Drake.

Featring bars from Future on the album's opening track reading, You a dude's number one fan dog, sneak disson, I don't understand dog, as well as possibly hinting at the real reason the two are beefing, pillow talking acting like a fed, I don't need another fake friend. Can't be about a ho because we sharon dog. These lyrics directed at Drake not only confirm their beef, but also seem to line up with the theory many fans have made on the internet. After the release of We Don't Trust You, fans began tracing back Drake lyrics from the past few years.

That could potentially now have a deeper meaning as sub- Hmm, interesting. Very interesting, but we still gotta find like the... I feel like we have a good baseline of why they don't like each other, but anyway, fuck it, cool. So let's get back to these tweets. Let's get back to these tweets. Wham, you one of the realest niggas, let's admit, that's what he basically said,

that slime was moving to goalposts and we were standing behind him. And by the way, they're talking about for the earlier situation where maybe he was on crime stoppers, right? Then Quave went off, say, y'all tell the world, I put you out in group text to squash it before it even got far.

Nigger, if y'all were still together, you'll be unstoppable. Then until last year, I was a realist niggia for trying to stop thug for exposing gunna. Now I'm fake. And I go a lot of you. I got a comment on that. Yeah.

These situations usually are, these situations are not benefiting. Usually the artists involved, right? When, hold on a little much, I thought. Okay. Yeah. So essentially Savage, like even tweeting this out, you know what I mean? Most of this stuff, we don't even know. going on. You know what I mean? Like, again, even this like offset and like quaybo shit, I'm going to be

honest with you, like even somebody who's like me who's in the blogs and I do that for a living, I kind of confirmed that like this whole offset sweetie thing, I confirmed it through their reaction. I didn't know what's true. I heard because, you know, bitches talk and this and third. So when Savage is kind of bringing some of this stuff to light And even if he's trying to make a point about it Fans are kind of just watching like wait what the fuck And what I'm saying is that Atlanta rappers have done a great job of concealing their issues right So you know I do think that Savage was looking at people trying to change a narrative on him

And you know I don't know what I think about it and we could talk about the sales People were starting to say oh Savage ain't keeping it real And I do think that's the interview that fucked with him. People wanted, if Savage never did an interview, because you know what people wanted on the interview. They wanted him to be like, well, if I call Gunner a Rat, I'm going to call a Thugger Rat. That's what they wanted.

They didn't get that. Let's see. 21 Savage, bitch. Here we go. No, not that. Not that. I was waiting on you. The slime didn't do nothing wrong to me.

I can that situation. see the only situation the only thing i told slime was this yo young man you know this young here we go right this what i was looking for you knowing your heart god damn then i can't say that neither because it'd be like i'd be like going back you see the savage is a broken computer he's a computer that every time you started up he gets blue screen there's two things holding savage back from being like a ruthless like just dumbass street nigger is that Savage is a logical guy

and you can see he wants to say some shit out of loyalty but his logic says damn that don't make sense I can't say it right because he kind of want to say yo listen you knew this nigga wasn't gangster like that this thing had been told but then you know what he's thinking well Gunna was out here

claiming that he was a Crip and we all allowed him and we all like look the other way when he was claiming he was a grip. So if we come out and say, yo, you know he wasn't like that. Well, why did we allow him to claim a gang?

So it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. And that's why Savage is in a tough spot trying to explain this shit because it's like there's no good answer. I think he did say the best things on Instagram. Like, yo, let's get the shit back together. Like, yo, forgive people.

I do think that's important. But what else do you expect? I can feel up about this shit because in my heart, I don't feel like he did it to hurt him. But then again, I feel like no, I do do anything to get out sometimes too. Do get in that space in their head where it's like... Now, somebody said sidetrack. I'm definitely not sidetrack. I'm commenting on why Savage thinks is appropriate.

Because there's one way to look at this to say, yo, Savage kind of called out thug. basically saying, yo, we didn't agree with you with calling some people snitches. We were riding with you out of loyalty. But enough is enough. Let's get back to,

you know, some family shit rather than do the other stuff. And I don't think that was necessarily his mission or his goal. You know? Anyway,

I'll play a little bit more of this. Right. But I'm ready to come home. But this is how I think he was, thinking like this is my opinion i feel like gunner was thinking his head well i ain't saying i seen slyne do nothing i ain't saying no specific nothing that i seen nobody do nothing like oh i seen this happen i seen this person shoot this person uh i seen them lead to go kill him and that's the sad part about the savage stuff i think you know any reasonable person could see both sides to some

extent when he's like trying to explain how he thinks gunnum a felt people feel like he's a he's a he's a snitch too, which that's the problem with, you know, some of these situations and topics where people don't want to talk about him. I felt like he felt like what he was saying wasn't really snitching his head. Like, shit.

I agree with that. Saying some shit, but saying that got down, you've seen commit crime. It's no way that Gunna thinks he's a snitch and then sings no way he think he's a snitch. He thinks he's a snitch.

And then when it comes time for, Why can't I find it? Yo, Twitter is definitely defeating. Can I find it? Wait, we can't find it? Hold on. You know, you know what's a clip I'm talking about, right? It's gonna in the club, gonna club offset.

Where he's like, I ain't snitching on my man, nigga, fuck a fad tap. Right? I told you all then. I don't think Gunna think he is snitch. I think y'all keep calling him a snitch. I don't think if you said, like Gunna knows not to do an interview because honestly, he's doing well without it. And by the way, we got to get to that part of the conversation.

I think Gunna would have signed his life away to be cool with, you know, Thug when he just got out. Because I think he did feel a little bit guilty. I think now after he realized it's been like two years or like a year and a half and y'all have kicked his back in and y'all want him to not exist. I don't think he's going to be apologizing for any time in the foreseeable future. Because why would he? Yeah, why would he? Anyway, let me just play it a little more of this. Times on behalf of why I sell, that that's bad, bro.

That's not good. Like, that don't, it don't, no matter your intention to the people, to the world, well, not to the world, because the world switched. At first they were saying, God damn, he was wrong. Now they're saying he right, but got down to like, like me and shit. Like, Gunna caught me when he first got out, bro, on my mama. I was sitting in the bed. He was like, bro, what's time?

Like, well, y'all at him? boy, you good? I ain't even see the video yet. Boom. Got down, see the video. He called me, I think he was leaving the jail or something the first time I talked to him. He just got in the house.

The second time he called, I think he was telling me pull up, like everybody was at his spot. So got down, I didn't see him the video now. All right. Necessarily snitch on a n-like, say, this n-did did this, but you saying, you're helping them. All right.

I'm going to sum this bitch out because, you know, I feel like we're also being a dead horse. So, okay, let's read the rest of the tweets. Last year I was a realist niggas, we read that already. It's a QCP. I told you to your face. You did it wrong with the party, but I never bashed you on the internet because it would have made a city look bad because you're putting all the young niggas. And that would have fucked up the money, right? And then he actually apologized to future.

So I don't know what that apology is for. Maybe something happened. I don't know, but he's apologizing to future. And then we get to see that him and Future are on FaceTime courtesy of Big Bang. So I'm guessing that, you know, the beef or whatever issues they have is squash. Also, when you look at Futures page, Future as well did at him and Future said this, Yo, 21 Savage, you're my little brother for infinity, us six. Was this shady?

you're my little brother. Don't Atlanta niggas say twin in them? Atlanta niggas be like twin. Why did he go with You're my little brother like, okay, like you, you, mm-hmm. Is that Instagram?

Maybe, whatever. Okay. Hmm. Then Futrose was tweeted. He says, bigger than the net. And he said, us. Okay. Yeah, I don't know.

Okay. Anyway, let's get back to the tweet. and that seems to be the majority of the tweets, right, where he's saying to QCP, I told you what I felt about this. Yo, let's make, you know, long story short, short story shorter. I don't think people give a fuck about the majority of stuff that's, you know, whether coming out through these tweets or whatever.

I think it's a breaking point where these people have to pick a choice. I think he was Savage. I think Savage is a loyal niggil. He's a loyal niggins. And not that he would be like, oh, yeah, I'm going to pick you and then we're going to go do a bunch of crimes together. I think his loyalty outweighs what the street code is,

which it should. So, yeah, he might not be hanging with Gunner in certain times when it's like, you know, street shits afoot or they're having certain type of arguments and conversation. but I do not for a single second actually believe that when it comes time to like future or it comes time to like, you know,

not future, specifically savage. He's making an educated choice because of his friend, and it's okay. You're supposed to have some loyalty. You're supposed to like your friend. You're supposed to try to give your friend the benefit of doubt. This is like this idea that you have to be like

these rigid street codes and not talk to somebody ever again. Like these people, they know each other's families. Like these people, you know, when it's their birthdays, they look out for each other. They know each other very well. Why the fuck would they just like succumb to the internet and just be like, yo, I'm done with this? Or fuck this guy because he broke some rule or some code that nobody really cares about. So I think that's what Savage was saying. He said that and fuck the streets.

We didn't get shit with trauma from that. Matter of fact, let me get on Discord real quick, too. I get on Discord? Yeah, so for me, man, I want Atlanta rappers to be just honest and truthful. I think Savage took it a long way today, but just be honest, bro, and truthful. That's why people are using words that I know they don't like hypocriteous and third. Just be honest and truthful. That's it.

Wham, you one of the realest things. We just seen Wham at some shit. little baby showed up two-arm thugs whole thing if you really felt like this guy was that crazy of a person or you hated him like come on

do you I get what I'm saying around tripping all right all good once again let me kind of go through all these tweets and I know

I took a long-ass time on him damn it's like probably three o'clock future tweeted some shit Savage tweeted some shit that was a little bit more obvious We've seen Big Bang say, yo, take your position, King.

You're the one I'm with for life. That turns into him tweeting up a bunch of things. Wham, you want to real as young niggas, bro. Let's admit Slam was moving a goal pose, bro, and we were standing behind it because we love our brother. He also says the offset, Quavo thing. Here's my fear with this. Because I do think niggas are living in delusion,

I'm waiting for one of these niggas living in delusion to just try to blame all of this on, they're going to blame all this on, wait, what am I thinking? They're going to blame all this on Savage by him trying to play peacemaker and saying, hey, listen, maybe we don't got to be like these super tough niggas who can't forgive, or maybe we should understand that this is why that happened. and there's a couple of circumstances that we should probably think about. And if we really do care about, you know, the legacy that we're building here, we got to have these conversations.

And the conversations can be like we're all gangsters, so this is intolerable. But we got to realize what we got going on. Like him saying, yo, where is that? Fuck. He was like basically fuck the streets. I don't believe he doesn't respect the streets. Let's see him already. Let's go to Savage's page.

Okay. So, my whole point is this. Savage is going in an area where you have to compromise and you have to learn and forget. And you have to admit you're wrong. In any of the situation, the reason why, and I know y'all are going to say, oh, you're cool with him.

No, nigga, like, bro, a lot of stuff probably is like some street stuff. I think all this this stuff is stupid. I just think that I give savage credit because it would kill these guys to fucking get online and just say, hey, we probably shouldn't have win that hard on Gunna. You know what? We love Thug and, you know, like we kind of took a step back and we looked at it. You're going to, my bad that we did that to you, bro. You're going to like, that's what's holding everything up.

Y'all do realize this, right? It's like, I don't even think these guys got to be friends. we're gonna it's like people are just looking at everybody i'm not really even talking about savage they're looking at really thug and they're like your thug bro like what's the word with you that's what people looking at like oh what's the word with you it's pretty simple but here's the thing there's a finality towards it if you say oh i don't mind that this guy did a b and c you're basically saying fuck the streets for life right like you know you can't really you can't really like play the 50 on that.

It's what I said, Gunna never apologize either, though. But I don't believe that the, it's not on Gunna to apologize, because if y'all had your way, he wouldn't have a career. And if his career wasn't going up or looking good, would y'all want to, um, an apology from Gunna? No. I'm not a mediator. Let me tell you this.

Y'all Atlanta rappers Number one I know I was being facetious Like you know way back when I said Oh yeah I need to have some therapy Yo I heard the voice crack mad times When he was talking about Gunner In that Big Bang interview like he was hurt to the core

You could tell like but he was hurt We're seeing everybody act out of character And not no one is trying to volunteer their ego Or volunteer their time To be like yo you know what we want to see this get better. That's the problem. Let's see.

All their ego got to do is be like, yo, listen, you're gonna. Honestly, man, you did bad, bro. Like, on a street level, like, we can't fuck with that. But you're our friend. And just like how, you know what looks crazy, chat? This is the craziest part about it. And this is why I kind of agree with Savage,

and I'm glad it felt like he started having independent thinking. Yo, you know what looks horrible for Thug? All that shit you're saying, all that shit you're saying, give me a second. This is your father, the man who gave you birth, the man who you probably were the first man around, hopefully your son, and you taught him principles,

you told him how to be a man, you taught him things that he could, could identify with and this is your son not your son I mean this is your father I mean sorry your father is hugging gunna and when I first thought I'm like I don't think this is the full story the full story must be like they don't fuck with this guy like they don't like they don't fuck with the father and then I looked at on Twitter today we seen the same guy so back-to-back nights the same guy is taking a picture with thug because if thug got all that energy to anybody else who could have that type of thing.

What do you have towards yourself? Yeah, I get it. Your hands are folded, like you're not, but, but that's still your father. And your father communicates very frequently with someone you don't really seem to care about. And then it's crazy when I watch this. It's crazy. When I look at this, and I look at this. The important lesson to learn here is that, um, most things in like,

are about the relationships you build, the people you meet. Thugs being stubborn. Thug, you damn any crowd over that, nigga, man. Of course you're hurt. Of course you want an explanation. But the idea that you're good without it, I don't believe for one second. You want that explanation.

You want to figure out why Gunner did what he did. You want to figure out if Gunner really like heartlessly was saying, fuck this nigga Thug, I don't care what happened to him. You definitely want these things. but we're all left with the same questions and that's why I like Savage for advancing it so none of y'all going to say nothing hmm never forget

welcome to perspective with bank and at the end of my conversation I say get my number if y'all want to know something the smartest nigga you ain't telling them then what make y'all young feel like y'all can spin the police though just come understanding that though I don't understand that man we the week the week all this went on to took out please at the end

end of the and Ola Ryan on the phone. Hey, bro. Me and Gouwop, motherfucker. People on this case, all you know is three niggas. Me, Gunna and Duke. That's the only niggas you know in this case, are Gunna. So when you said, yes, I know three or more niggas

that committed these crimes, who the fuck is you talking about? Me, Gunna and Duke. Because we're the only niggas you know anyway. I know you could have been talking about anybody at school. But just so happy how the dice roll, you don't know nothing but three niggas. so interesting bro yo at the end of the day and um you know what just because it's late i'm just gonna you know i feel like i dragged and i did a lot of like sidetracking um throughout this

combo so you know i'll give it straight for 10 minutes i'm gonna be honest with you bro and for anybody who think i'm hiding from me i'm not 21 savage sold $53,000 first week. And some of y'all are going to say, nah, he only started tweeting because he sold that. That's not what came across to me. Are we being honest here, people? That's not what came across to me.

I think Savage has always been someone that people see. I see him as this. I see him as this. And I might be a little bit biased, but I know him personally. I was on a, listen, he's the one who called me on the phone. He put me on the phone. phone, Meek Bill's talking to me like a rapper

at first. And he had to make sure, like, yo, come on, we don't need to do that. Yo, bro, y'all here to talk. This ain't Meek. Nick, meek hopped out of a vehicle. This is facts. I'm not trying to make meek look crazy. He's doing a rapper shit. Savage is there being a human. Yo, act. Here's Meek. Meek.

Here's act. Yo, listen, I fuck with y'all both, man. Like, bro, none of y'all want to do none to each other really. Like, yo, y'all just got some disagreements. Yo, bro, come on. Y'all just talked. Y'all figure out some, I'm gonna be on the phone with y'all. Come on, like, y'all talk us, man. Y'all niggas never talk. Talk.

And I ain't gonna lie to you. The first thing he started doing, which I'm calling the rapper shit. Yo, I'm always prepared to go to war, man. He hops out of car. Yo, listen, man, I have bulletproof cars. And I'm like, what the hell? I'm not trying to make me look crazy. What I respect about Savage is that he's a human.

Like, especially to even the media guy. He's a human. I ain't, I ain't never seen him as a rapper. This is why sometimes I also, I'll be feeling bad because I'm like, yo, you know,

because I don't really look at him like a rapper like that, and not that it's not good because, of course, I bump his music, but it's like, it kind of might come across that he's more of the homie than,

you know, you have a friend and you'd be like, you don't bump his shit as much as other people bump his stuff, type shit. But here's the point I'm trying to make.

I feel like Savage, I don't think, think he tweeted these things because of his sales. I just want to say that. Because I think there's people saying, nah, man, nigga, you only said that. I think he honestly tweeted this because the conversation

that he had start flipping. And people are looking at him not only like, yo, bro, we usually look at you for the voice of reason, bro. That's savage. Savage is the voice of reason. As I said, I look at him like that. personally because he's put me on the phone people and i've seen him say yo come on knock that

rapper shit off man like i talk like man come on come on this that's him so i think as a human he's been looking at the conversation and he's a loyal nigger but he's not a fake nigga too and he starts seeing people like like they're just looking at him like oh no you just picking up for For thug, whatever thugs say, you're just going to repeat it. Oh, man, like, y'all niggas is hypocrites. And I think that's why he came out with it. You know, at the end of the day, like, and again, I know some people, no matter what I say, they're going to still say whatever, hip hop isn't a down right now.

Now, granted, do I think Savage's happy with the sales? Nah. Yo, baby the $34,000 first week. maybe the 34,000 Thug the 54,000 Look like Savage is going to be doing And that's the first album out of years Look like Savage is going to be doing like 54

Gunner who did 120 before Did 80 But there's nobody who's dropping music That's going up And I ain't going to lie I would tell Savage the same thing Like bro like you're not an exception to The only nigga who's going to go up

Only two niggies going to really go up the next time Kendrick drop he's up the next time Drake drop he's up well actually no no if Kendrick drops before Drake if he drops after Drake and Drake got a classic nobody gives a fuck about Kendrick no more send it back to gulag Drake shit's going up the matter when like drake could drop midnight new year's eve is going up because in reality this is you know as much as whatever it's the best rollout plan but I'm saying all that to say I don't think these tweets out because of I don't think these tweets came out because of his sales

I think Savage look at these niggas like his brothers right he cares about them and he's tried to do nothing but play peacemaker like how he's done in many situations and he's watching people start to change the narrative about him

remember what last year and he said it. Remember last year he says yo last year y'all said I was the realest nigger. He's not saying like this is why like oh my album when it is. He's you could tell and this is why I kind of feel bad for the for the Atlanta crew because they're gangston niggis but they don't want to act like they have feelings, bro. Like y'all all got feelings. Yo thug you was hurt as a motherfucker overgunner bro. Nigger we seen it. Your voice is cracking. You wanted to cry. But you were trying to make it who, not saying like you're faking, but you was trying to make it like, nah, I was just, not it's just because he betrayed me.

Bro, this is your man. This is your friend. This is a guy who has met your kids. This is like, you're hurt about it. And I think he just kind of say that. But when I look at Savage even saying this stuff, I think he's hurt from the discourse. Because I think he's one nigga who's like,

bro, I took my energy to try to fix shit between people. and I ain't a lot. Maybe it is him looking at the internet a little bit too much, though. Because he's looking at the internet and hearing people switch up their stance. Remember when them calls came out? Nigel, yo, everybody said, yo, it's one thing about, look,

Nick, I remember even brilliant idiots. We're really trying to me, you know, but it is. Everybody was saying, you know who the realest nigger is? 21 Savage. But oh, freak. Music thaw gonna be making and it's like God.

To playlists. Let me let you. Hold on. Everybody said it. Everybody said it. Is it this? I can't find a full conversation. But everybody was saying,

yo, what we all realize from these leak calls is that Savage is that. is a real ass nigga. And I'm gonna be honest with you. And he probably won't like me saying this,

but I think, bro, these things matter to him. I think he's been watching a conversation switch up. He's seen dumb shit happen, and he's watching, like, people getting really fractured. And I think he was a little emotional. I ain't going to lie to you. That's my nigga, buddy. But I think these tweets was him kind of saying,

Yo, bro, like, nigga, I'm down to say what I've been saying probably to y'all to the world. Yo, he said this kind of on the jail calls. Yo, bro, he's not saying the nigga ain't ratting. He's just like, bro, you know the nigga wasn't gangst anyway, bro. Like, pull at this. If Savage found out that I pressed charges on somebody for something, you think Savage would be like, nah, I ain't fucking going to act no more? Or would he be like, bro, y'all knew act was going to do some shit like?

that. I think that's how he's looking at Gunner now. I think it gets complicated because, yes, Gunner was a Crip. Gunner was in the whip, like basically. You know what I mean? So it does get complicated, but I think that's why he's saying it, right? So if we go back to these tweets, you know, I think this was a real, he says last year I was the realest nigger for trying to stop thug from exposing Gunna. Now I'm fake. Bro, who's saying he's fake now? It's only fans. He's talking to fans, or not necessarily talking to fans, but he's addressing. the new narrative that fans are keeping up like, yo, man, I'm a niggins savage.

And why do they keep up that narrative? It's because he did that interview right before his album drop and the interview, there's no way to make this shit look good. And in really thinking about this, everybody's hurting because they're stuck between loyalty and logic. Loyalty and logic. You see, loyalty, Trump logic. Remember I said that before?

logic is yo we're in the club why you step on that nigga's shoe yo bro you know you was wrong what you doing bro like yo hold on hold on yo a yo nah we got it's our man's hold on my bad he's drunk he drunk you stop the fight now he's drunk now hold on chill chill chill

yeah we got this bro my bad like yo you know we apologize for that you bring them to the side of your bro you need some water you good you step it on niggis kicks in here like you wild in the head like that's logic like yo bro and then the nigga might be drunk Like, no, he step on his shoes. Like, no, that nigga would he dis-brough?

That didn't happen. Like, you stepped on a nigga, you walling in the head. Like, this is how we could get into it. Chill out, dog. Yo, my fat, let's go home, though. That's logic. Loyalty. And it's not like, you know, may not be the best example, but still, like, loyalty is your man drunk,

step on somebody's shoes. They're getting into it. He's shouting now. Now it gets into a thing or whatever. you're fighting you fight with your man you know your man was wrong yeah i'm just loyal to my man i got to rock out with him and i think that's where i'm seeing atlanta being stuck in between i think savage was stuck in between that today and it's kind of sad because the way how people perceive street niggas is that they don't look at them as anybody that

have any type of, they don't even look at them as emotion, like have emotions like, yo, these guys are friends. Like, yo, these guys are friends. These guys were cool. Like, they're going through it. I don't think people look at it like that. Like, yo, they're going through it. And I think what Savage is saying is that, yo, yo, yo, wham, like, we all got to get past

this. But just remember that we kind of knew. Gunner was not the type of niggas that we associate with, but we love Doug and we're loyal to him. Doug's been good to us. We've been good to him. So we rode out on that principle. However, when we rode out on that principle,

the RICO should happen and, yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am, why could we be that mad at Gunna? That's how I'm reading all this. that's how I'm reing all this, right? And then obviously he's addressing, you know, I think y'all calling him a hypocrite. Like, I don't, like, I think he's so, keep in mind what he tweeted, the realist.

Right, he cares about his reputation, man. He cares about what people think about him in the sense of, I'm not a snake, not some type of rat that's going to like, you know, do that. No. So he's trying to get to the place where people understand him. So he even says to QCP, I told you to your face, you did wrong. But I ain't into trying to bash you online.

It would have made the city look bad. You were putting all the young niggas on. It would have fucked up the money. Hmm. Does it make sense what I'm saying? I don't want to repeat it for another time. I feel like it makes sense. Does it make sense?

And you know what? Y'all say don't get on discourse, so it's fine. I'm going to open up the, let me open up all the chats. You guys just send, it doesn't have to be a donation of a lot. Just ask whatever questions and I'll answer them. Because I kind of feel like I fully get it. But the way I get it, everybody's going to say it looks pussy. Because if you're a gangster, you're not supposed to have any type of emotions

or even think about shit like this. Give me a second. Joe said a bit long winning, but you got to the point. Hey, just clip that last part. Rate Savage's album? Let me pull up his, let me pull up his albums. 21 Savage's album, I really like I Am Grand. To me, this is a classic.

To me, this is a classic. Okay, we're not bringing in the mixtapes, right? So let me just go off studio. albums. I am greater than I was. I'm going at number one. I ain't going to lie to you. Ah.

Am I going to Issa? I might go Issa. No, no, no, no. I did like seven in a freestyle. Okay, okay. I'm going, I am great than I was. American Dream. Issa.

Then I go what happened to the streets. We're not going to count collab albums or mixtapes. just because if we count those, the rankin changes. But I would say it's number four on his album list, which he only has four, right? So, yo, let me say this, man. I'm not from Atlanta, man, but y'all dudes got to bury y'all pride and your ego. I'm not telling you all to forgive gunner.

but the reality of this is that y'all gonna have to figure out what y'all is standing on in rap and I think everybody's been going through that yo put it like this the song I love by baby when he's like yo you want to pull up the Lurts Superman Lurks Little baby

bro it shows exactly what I'm saying these artists are having a tugging war match between loyalty and love No, loyalty and, what's the other thing? I said loyalty and logic. Listen to a little baby. He says, I don't show no favoritism. I'm going through that shit.

It's not peace with P. He's talking about the same thing about snitching. Because you know what's happening? Everyone's saying, well, if you don't fuck with him because he's snitching, what about this guy? He did the same thing, too. if you fuck with him and he did that and you don't fuck with him because he did that

you picking and choosing and these guys they really are trying to be loyal to this code that you could tell they're trying he's rapping about it I don't show no favoritism going through that shit with P look just go back a couple lines $100 for a 3, 5 I'm still serving a block

can't believe these niggas eight the cheese and it used to be Fam Goul Rallo Can't put cameras all on me Bro, that shit ain't G I don't show no favoritism going through

that shit with P basically saying I'm calling out all people who rat it So now let's think about it We're talking about Logic and loyalty

Bro, you're loyal to thug bro and I'm pretty sure it was a hard thing for him to separate his loyalty because he was loyal at point to to gunna it seemed he had to get to a point to say nah I can say fuck this nigga but of course now it's you know people are trying to like press the thug thing and you love thug and I'm not saying he should disavow thug what I'm saying is that what these artists are struggling with is are y'all going with? with logic or you're going with loyalty. And Rallo said the same thing.

You know what Rallo said? Yo, I'm never going against my friend. In one of them early rants when he was saying, he was talking about thug, he said, listen, man, yo, that snitch and shit, fuck that. I'm never going against my friend. You see, some of these street dudes, there was just acting like, nah, you know, not called a spade of spade. I don't give a fuck who it is.

No, bro, that's not how life works. everybody picks and chooses. And by the way, I would have respected a lot of these guys if they were saying, nah, we are picking and choosing. Now, granted, that would affect them because people wouldn't give them the same amount of, like, energy.

But, yeah. Who the fuck you could? Like, if he would have went to trial, the state, if his shit was getting used in trial, which it was, unless I got out of the case, his plea agreement was going to get used in trial. I know they're saying, like, oh, he had to get.

I thought of effort plead on me. Yes. He ain't had to get on the same. You know, they're pushing all those narrows. He ain't have to get on stand. He wasn't going to testify against nobody. Yes, he was. If you look at the end of his plea, that shit said,

this plea agreement could be presenting in trial. And if any... Yo, somebody said I made an excuse for a bad album. Bro, I'm not saying none of this has nothing to do his album. Yo, y'all could trash 21's album. If you don't like it, it's okay. Yo, put it like this. If you need me to say it, his album,

didn't do good numbers wise of course it didn't do good what i'm trying to say is that the conversation of these tweets are not a manifestation of that it's a manifestation of these rappers and i'm telling you exactly who i'm talking about um thug is also part of it even though it feels like they're they're loyal to thug but thug baby savage i think the the future thing is a little bit non-related. I think we have to figure out what that was. I don't think future wants to have an opinion on these guys because I don't think that that's his fight. Questions come up up about this plea however they wrote it if anything come about this plea you must come testify truthfully about what you said in this plea. No.

Make a look every one day please said that except mine every police said that except mine in a little nine every one of them nigg who took a plea in the beginning. Yeah so All I'm going to say is, man, it's kind of unfortunate because I think some of these guys live and die by hanging their hat on what the streets say and they want to be seen as logical. And I get it. There's a point of like being a hypocrite if you're not logical. But, man, the realities, y'all know each other very well. You know each other kids, baby moms, parents. You're not going to just say, fuck this guy.

I'll never talk to him just because this idea that someone told. So, yeah. So much, I wouldn't say his album's bad. Bro. Chad, his album isn't bad. Bro, his album's like a, the reality, if I had to rank his album, his album's like a B minus. He needed a couple more slaps to me.

B minus. Bro, this is why it's interesting because people are going to take what his album did. think that his entire anything he does is like trying to make that look away i don't think these tweets had nothing to do the album okay i don't believe these tweets had none do the album okay um let me move on real quick chat i know we're getting late here and i really apologize for like this tardiness is not good i'm really i'm sorry uh number one before i get i'm i'm i'm I'm just doing some business updates. So, chat, it looks like I'm exactly right.

Netflix, they basically, and this is why, you know, this is why I told you Charlotte Man wasn't going anywhere. First of what, Charlottoman talked about months ago that, you know, Netflix, he was bringing up Netflix. Netflix was clearly invested in a couple of things. He knew ahead of us, ahead of the game. They were talking to I-heart and he was in the mix. So this idea that he was going to get, like, let go, no, they need him.

Now, Netflix, remember I told you, they're doing what was Spotify did like Netflix is just given licensing deals to a bunch of podcasts to have them on um Netflix and hopefully it could start eating into the market share now I'm gonna be very honest with you this is not gonna work right and I probably shouldn't say that because you know anytime I see shit like this my manager or not I don't have a manager my agent over at UTA usually be like yo y'all y'all giving out checks yeah act will come over there with some shit and he'll get a check for me. But I'll tell you the reality of it because honestly, I'm not even really interested

to this myself. Well, first of all, my podcast isn't a concurrent weekly podcast anyway, at least at this point. This won't work. This is exactly the motto that Spotify use. Spotify basically said we're going to rent a bunch of podcasts. And by the way, they know it's not going to work. Their idea is not to pop off a podcast. it's about to steal data.

So, hey, let's figure out if this is viable. And as soon as they find out it's viable, they're going to let everybody that they're leasing their content, and then they're going to just announce Netflix podcasts and probably have a different tier for it. That's all they're doing, right? They're going to announce billions of dollars. And yes, they're going to try to compete with Spotify podcast,

but also TV. So Netflix announced that they're partnering with, bars too is if you read this it says it's a multi-year partnership he'll bring videos of blah blah to that here's a here's a thing people watch videos comfortably on the platforms that they watch it on right like for example i put out video but i don't promote it of this stream on spotify if you go to if you ever want to watch this stream on spotify you could go to spotify type in um what's the I'm a thing. You go to Spotify, you can type in

the Academy, and we're up there with full video. The point is that people's listening choices, especially for my audience, is not Spotify, especially for a stream. They'll go to Spotify for my podcast, but they don't want to go there for a stream. Why am I saying that? I'm saying that

because if we start looking at, you know, Netflix is trying to think that they're going to acquire a bunch of people that want to watch podcast videos on their site. No, it's not. So they're going to give out the check for a couple of years.

They're going to realize and learn. Then they're going to do, they're going to make their own podcast networks. So they did a deal with I-Hard for 15, and then they did a deal with bars to which a multi-year deal. And it says it's going to bring video versions of one, two. I think there was a list of podcasts. It might have been three podcasts from, from, um, what's this company called? Barstool.

So again, that's the whole point, right? Anyway, okay. So that happens, and what's the other thing you guys told me to talk about? Yeah, of course. Listen, chat, when you're trying to grow in a market, right? Like, I'll give you, let me give you, when did Joe Button sign to Spotify, right?

So besides Spotify in August 18th, right? That's what I'm doing dolo, the show on everyday struggle. Now, this is the important part. How many paid subscribers did Spotify have in 2018? 96 million. Let's keep it going. Joe left 2020. $155 million.

Now granted, their number was always going to increase, but by the time I get on, which is 2021, they have $180. And then by the time I leave, it's $2023. They have $2.36. Why am I bringing up that number? Spotify just wanted a quicker way to impress their, they wanted to impress the shareholder, right? So the way how it works is that they look at growth per quarter,

and if you're not growing, you're dying. So as long as you're bringing in record growth, you're good, but of course they hit a ceiling at some point, and it starts to, like, die a bit, and that's where people start panicking, right? So I watched this happen with Spotify. They were just trying to get numbers after numbers, but they weren't really investing fully on people's listening and learning habits

and where they listen to podcasts at. Okay? Now, I think that's going to last for a couple of years. What's also happening in the business world is this change. Okay, Billboard Streams, here we go. Okay, now we're going to get to that, and then let's get to this first. So the news came out yesterday,

and this was like a huge news, right? Oh, oh, never mind you. This is YouTube news still. Okay, so, actually, I think this article just gives us everything. All right, so this is Lyr Cohen, by the way, the guy who used to run, like, Def Jam, and now runs YouTube.

He is Ebro, well, actually, more powerful than Ebro, but he's Ebro at YouTube. YouTube music. So YouTube says he will stop providing data to a billboard for inclusion in the U.S. charts and in a partnership that's lasted more than a decade. Now, that's important. All the young boy fans were talking to you. So when your artist has a lot of YouTube views or concurrent, you know, listenership that's coming from YouTube, they usually make YouTube charts, but that also

affects all the DSPs because they look at YouTube as a DSPs. And you get, you get how much i said no all right so you get um like like i forgot the train of uh thought i was on all right so basically with the youtube thing um okay now i remember so with youtube not only are they not going to um them adding on or them providing data is what billboard takes to like come up with their their weekly charts right it's been like that for years. They used to do it, obviously, with stores, FYE, they used to do a Target, Best Buy, all these other like mom and pop story. They used to wait for them. They used to have a really odd reporting procedure, which I'll get into another time at some point. But then streaming takes over, right? As streaming takes over, you can't go around YouTube. You have people like

Leo Cohen who he got hired to kind of make this a streamlined thing where, hey, we're going to comply. Now, they have complied a lot, and this is where the T's going to come in, people. They've complied a lot with like look lear cohen uh let's look at m youtube dsp rates um payout versus Spotify we'll find the article just off the AI right here okay great all right cool bingo all right this guy's going to cover it i think so you might know that Spotify okay so here's a chart that everybody uses right No. Where's this chart? Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. There's a chart, my bad.

Payout per DSP for music. Okay, we got to find that chart. Okay, here we go. It's a nice chart, but we might not need to fuck it. All right, let's just look at that, right? so essentially YouTube used to be like

one half of this right so YouTube has one of the lowest payouts per stream so when you stream a song one time on title you basically you need to stream it a hundred times for it to be a cent damn there right or no ten times

ten times for it to be a cent on Spotify you need to stream it a hundred times for it to be a cent right Right? YouTube music, you essentially need to stream it damn near 200 times, damn near for you to get even close to the same. Now, YouTube has actually improved a bit. I'll tell you this. With Lyric Cohen going there, obviously, you know, with Lyric Cohen going there and kind of like running and spearheaded that thing. And, you know, obviously then you get, I believe Tuma.

Maybe Tuma? Yes. So Tuma went over there. Tuma used to be at, you, um, yeah. So Tuma used to be at Spotify. He went over there as well.

They work with the business people to try to like, you know, get YouTube music up because YouTube always realized that, hey, listen, just like how Apple just magically created a Apple music, we could create a YouTube music. They integrated it with what they call red. So like if you pay 10 bucks,

you could not get ads for anything, which includes regular content, but also music. Because of that, and also there's some botten consequences. They do pay out very little, okay? YouTube historically, because they deal with user-generated content,

they don't want to pay out a lot to people, right? You're not a TV network. You don't have a publisher, you don't have an editor. They usually kind of penalize you for that. over time that that kind of you know works low key against them um because the lowest rate that they're paying out of gets places like billboard and the labels to say step it the fuck up now before they integrated youtube red and youtube music as kind of like one they really wanted like this membership thing where you just pay for music but people were like yo why will we pay two type of bills

for two type of content on the same platform. And now that they're trying to cope. So they did mad shit to cope. And, you know, I hope you guys are following me here. Initially, when they brought YouTube music into the fold, they promised the labels will give you higher CPM. So, for example, if you watch a Kaizenab video on YouTube versus you play a song that's up the same length, the same amount of times,

they promised labels, because the labels obviously are the bullies because they could always take the catalog. They promised them higher return. race and hire CPM, right? And it's been like a teeth pulling thing, not only with the labels and YouTube, but also Billboard, who kind of represents the labels in terms of the competition,

they've been saying, step your shit up. YouTube, they're not down to go against their own business in certain sense. Like, you're not going to have us go oust or denigrate certain type of streams or whatever. Because, again, YouTube, even though they offer paid services, their bread and butter is basically advertising everyone we you could get this for free so essentially look like there's some beef and drama that existed because now YouTube says

all right bet are you want to play hardball cool we don't need to work with you anymore um billboard now there's a lot of trickle down to this what's going to happen is that the labels are going to press YouTube because everybody I think YouTube is the big bad wolf yes but put it like this the billboard is the lead commissioner Let me explain music business if you had to know. Warner, Sony, Universal. The lead commissioner that kind of tells who's winning and losing, they have given to Billboard that works with Luminit.

Luminate used to be what's called SoundScan. Remember when 50 used to do sound scan? That turns into Luminit, okay? Sound scan bought by Luminate. So I'm explaining to you, look, it was effectively bought by aluminum, right? I'm explaining to you in the most, this is the best way to think about the music business. Why does Billboard matter? And I'm going to get into what Russ said, because he's kind of right, but he's wrong.

And what I mean by is wrong is that the music industry goes off of Billboard. They have empowered Billboard. Billboard is their legal office. You know, essentially, every owner. of a team, they just sign into something that say, hey, even though we own the team, we're going to be, you know, oversaw or the overseer is going to be the league office. Well, for all the labels that exist in music, the league office is billboard. They tell who's winning, who's losing, who needs to step it up, who's getting the most money. They're the official scorekeepers and they kind of make the rules that the labels deal with. If they say, we're

We are not doing online stores that aren't coming through A, B, and C. The labels are going to change. Okay? Now, what does that do? These labels constantly, like, think about when Travis Scott drops his album, there's usually a lot of, like, you know, they could audit Billboard a bit, and Billboard owes them and not necessarily, actually does owe them. Like, you know, answers to these questions because they're the scorekeepers that basically

they're the league office. YouTube basically said, yo, if y'all going to try to bully us, we're good. Your artists are going to still need to put up music here, but we don't have to, like, placate to whatever you got going on. They're actually right about that. Here's a problem, though. The labels want YouTube involved,

and they're going to put pressure not only on YouTube, but they're going to put pressure on Billboard to fix that relationship. And I'm pretty sure it's probably a lot of drama. Right? It's going to be like, you're not going for that. Y'all need to fix this relationship because that's what it is. So at the end of the day, this idea of the music business changing, and again, they did lower the streams and why they lowered the streams.

From what I've heard is that, you know, there's so much. I'm going to probably double back on this topic too. Like, there's so much drama with it. The stream lowering shit is also a sign that labels and build, board auditing these labels and audited in some of these numbers and them getting audited from lumines, they've realized there's less bots. So because there's less bots, it's like inflation. You put some more into the economy because you have cracked down on bots. When there was more bots, nobody cared about, you know, trying to stop this particular number from going out or these

type of practices because it was making the entire industry look good. Now that it's not making the entire industry look good, now people want to stop certain stuff. Right? So there's a lot of drama going on. A lot of drama. And I hope you guys understand it. So that's what's going on. And if you don't know, according to Chart Demics, starting January 16th, YouTube views will not be counted. Why? YouTube actually put out a statement. Said, Billboard used an outdated form of that weights subscription supported streams higher than ad supported every fan matters and every play should count youtube does not force or do not prioritize that's what the music industry wanted to do hey we don't care even if you have premium force these people to start paying for music or

start doing whatever and basically you're having um youtube say no so it's after a decade long partnership and extensive discussion they're unwilling to make meaningful changes So after then, we're not going to be delivering data anymore. Okay? So they could be, this is going to be a stalemate. I think they're going to fix it not before this launches, but probably a little bit after. But this is hell of drama. Hell of drama.

We're going to have to see. We'll see. We'll see. A lot of bots involved. Shit definitely got hot. We'll see what it is, man. Oh my God, you guys are still up? Interesting, interesting.

Chat, I'm taking it down for the night. I ain't going to lie to you. I think I'm kind of explained this a bit. Yo, if I'm an artist, and if I'm Drake, and I'll just end it with this, if I'm Drake, I push my album back to March. Yo, the industry's beefing with itself. And it's beefing with itself because a bunch of things.

They're beefing or bots. Yo, should we increase this? Because they're doing a better job. It's cracking out. down at bots okay all right the labels are are putting pressure on everybody we want more money because streaming is turning into it's becoming stagnant what's happening when streaming becomes stagnant no one's spending money the labels don't want to spend money on new artists obviously we just went through a battle that kind of sucked the life out of the industry anyway but labels don't want to

spend money anyway why they don't want to spend money because um they don't want to invest in something put like this, if I have a business that I own catalog, that's what labels own catalog. Why am I going to keep investing if you're telling me we're hitting the ceiling? We can't grow anymore. If you're telling me, like, okay, let's think about Instagram followers, right? Let's think about Instagram followers. This is an example. If I was at 2 million followers and you say,

if you spend $100,000 every three months on promo, you're going to get half a million followers in six months. And I'm growing, I'm growing, I'm growing. Half a million dollars is a lot of money. But I'm growing, I'm growing, I'm growing. But then you tell me when I get to $5.2 million, you're like, yo, yeah, you could give us like, you know, this amount of money for this amount of months or whatever. But we can't guarantee you that anymore. I'm going to be like, what the fuck?

Yeah, how do we grow? And that's where it goes to. We're trying to figure out how do we grow? because right now we're in a place of downgrowth. So that's why you're not having labels invest, and then you're having a lot of these other things happening, but trust me, it's drama along the board. YouTube is hitting the DSPs,

but the labels as well to say, show us that you guys don't really need to compromise with us. And I think they're about to play hardball. Shout to Detroit Nug. Shout to you, brother. Anyway, chat, I'm getting off of here. I apologize to streaming so long. late tonight, man. Tomorrow, I promise you, I'll be on an earlier time. There's so much to be

discussed and, you know, you know my demeanor. I'm probably doubling back on topics tomorrow too, so please don't, you know, have some patience tomorrow as well. And we did a lot of sidetracking tonight, so hopefully you guys were entertained, but we did a lot of sidetracking. We got to double back on some topics and kind of figure out what is, you know, still the topic of the day, especially for tomorrow as we go into, tomorrow, today's today. Today's Thursday. Tomorrow's Friday. All right.

Chat, I love y'all. I will see y'all tomorrow. Again, we are still going every day. We're doing these daily streams. We're trying to mix it up. I still didn't even get a Candace Owens. Oh, my God. Chat, I'm doing a daytime stream.

I'm doing a daytime stream. Or reasonably. You know what? Book it. the time Craig I get on the stream tomorrow I need everybody here um

430 I'll do a 5 hour stream tomorrow 430 to 930 all right please everybody be here I'll be here I want to get to this candor stuff and um I'm just looking at the clock

it's like 4 o'clock and I know I'm still seeing 12,000 people in here but I'm like you guys are probably like drones at this point all right so chat meet me 430 tomorrow 4.30 Eastern time, which is 1.30 Pacific time. That's 930, UK time. Meet me here tomorrow. 430 Eastern time. Whatever topics we'll get to, we'll get to then. But also I'm going to touch back on some of this business stuff.

It's really convoluted. But anytime I started talking a lot and I'm like, are they getting it? I feel like it's a daytime thing that we could like really spell shit out, right? Chat, I love y'all. I will see y'all tomorrow. Please go get some sleep. And the streamathon. continues. I love you guys to support me and thank you. There's nothing big in the chat. Make sure you guys get to Discord. Discord.org.g. slash academics.