DJ Akademiks Live Streams - 21 Savage x Big Bank interview Reaction. 21 savage album drops at midnight.
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What happened to the streets, man?
Sadd what we're doing?
You know I ain't got no intro and all that shit for you.
What we're doing?
Why I can't get an intro?
You ain't never see me do no intro.
I'm saying why I can't be the first one?
I'm just asking.
Hey, you now tuned in.
Hey, how you feeling, my brother?
I'm all right.
About to drop the night.
Yeah.
You're nervous.
No.
You look nervous.
How?
You're excited though?
Yeah, I'm excited.
I'm excited.
You do a number.
That's fucking hard, bro.
I want to see what they do.
I want to see what they do.
I want to see what they do.
I'm excited to see like how they take it.
Who I talked to about my publishing?
Like, niggas just called me like, for the Drake?
I mean, nobody in gave me name when I was on that with y'all.
For real?
Yeah.
Mnicka Pah, are you like, what, $2,500?
Anything.
I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
I think you gotta sign up or some shit, though.
You gotta sign up for, like, DMG or.
DMG, ASCAP, yeah.
Nah, I just talk shit.
I just got a little bad.
That shit is.
Some public.
There's going to be some money, though.
But my name ain't on that.
I signed off on shit.
Your name ain't on what?
On the album?
On my shit?
On brush shit.
On y'all shit, what you were in great?
Like, as a feature?
That don't mean you don't get,
you don't get no published.
We'll figure it.
I'm a holl at you about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How you feeling though?
I'm all right.
What happened to the street?
What made your name the album there?
Street dead.
You f*** up.
I'm gonna say no ma'am you still had a little hope like the street still
I'm I'm telling you all that two years ago
I was I was saying the principles and morals that we learned in the streets never die
that's my that's what my point was to you when we was talking about that
what you mean how they never die when they're gone nobody's up holding yeah but that
okay so if every nigger started jumping off cliffs you're gonna jump off a cliff
no I'm gonna get out of the way and let them keep jumping but but you're not gonna jump
though. Let me tell you something.
I'm asking. It's a yes or no.
It's embedded in you is still there.
Right.
That's what you're saying. But they're not still in the streets, though.
Right. But that don't mean that you don't hold on to what's embedded than you.
Because that make you a follower. If you...
By the way, welcome, welcome. We reacting to this Savage and Big Bank interview.
I talked to Savage about it. They talk about everything. Dirt, Wabi.
They talk about everything, everything.
Yours not. But are the principals?
and the morals gone from the streets.
No, I wouldn't say they're gone.
I'd say,
niggas fucked up when they started letting the internet
having a pen on what goes on in the streets.
That's what, that's what, that's part of it.
That's what made it look like.
See, now it's just one.
Back in the day,
nigger, growing up,
I ain't know what the fuck the bank was doing.
I knew he was a street nigga,
but all I know was he was a street nigger
from my side of town
and they made music and shit.
So I couldn't really have no opinion on what they had going on, whether it was right, wrong,
who was telling, who wasn't telling, none of that shit.
Now it's like, niggas, and I ain't saying, because I rap about street shit,
but I don't rap about, like, specific shit.
Like, niggas start, niggas really snitching on their self and their music type shit,
like, saying certain shit.
So now, when these internet detectives, like, go and put one plus one and do it,
and all that. Now they putting your shit out there.
That they're gonna be count on point too.
Sometimes, sometimes.
Sometimes, but most of the time they get be capped though.
Because I didn't see shit about me like, man, what the fuck?
Me too.
You know what I'm saying?
That's about Trableau Ross.
It sounded good though.
It sounds like a story.
It's content.
It's gonna consume content.
Yeah.
Nigger, nigger, my grandma in Jamaica, I was, I was got down.
But she was really making the joke though.
But we telling, I forgot, we was watching it, it was this old show.
Like an old TV show, like when my mom of them was growing up called like ER some shit.
But it was about a Jamaican hospital how f***ed up it was and shit.
Like they drilling a nigga head with a goddamn blackened-decker screwdriver like to put a, you know like when you get the love.
What's the shit called?
I don't know what it's called, but like a helmet, like the screws in your head.
So got down.
My grandma sitting on the couch, we in Jamaica though.
She's telling me like, that shit's fake basically like she's saying that's fake.
cut it off
you know
and so goddamn
she pulled up
some shit on her phone
and this shit
say like
um
Donald Trump
he did some crazy
like
that he didn't do
so I'm like
man grandma
that's fake
she like
that's fake too
type shit
so but it's content
so she basically
showing me like
what make you believe that
why I can't believe
this if you believe
that type shit
you know what I'm saying
so you basically
believe in
that
I'm believing that they're really screwing his head.
She don't believe it.
I still believe it.
But most of this stuff do come from real life, though.
Right.
But it's a TV show, though, is what my point is.
It's content.
So her point is, why can't I say this is fake?
Why can I say what you watching on the TV is fake?
If I can pull up some on my phone right now,
that look, just as real as that.
But it's fake, and we both know it's fake type shit, basically.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah, no.
So basically what I was saying was.
Because, okay, niggas let the internet start having an opinion on street shit when they don't
post they have no opinion on it because they never been in it or they're not, they never
participated in that type of shit.
So the internet don't post and never dictate who did wrong in the streets, in my opinion,
because you're not in the streets.
You're saying basically like on one of them songs, you're just like, we letting the nerd dictate
how the streets feel.
Right.
But when you do have a
Just say being somebody that's
From that or whatever
Who solidified or whatever
And have an opinion
They can't really have no opinion
The nurse can have their opinion
And say what they want to say
Because they don't have no consequences
Y'all want me to turn off the closed caption
Yeah
But just say if I ain't saying they can't have no opinion
I'm saying
The general public
Like I
The shit that we're talking about
Is music shit
It's street shit that's tied to
to niggas who make music and shit, right?
Yeah.
Okay, that's cool because you're a public figure.
If you dumb enough to goddamn say certain shit
for the internet to know certain shit,
then they should be able to have a routine.
King Aaron, thank you, brother.
Also, they're trying to act like these certain situations
apply to everything in the street.
That's where it becomes blurry.
And you got street niggas
who like, wake up and see some shit
and got down.
They would go with that narrative
because this is what the narrative is on the internet.
This is how most people feel on the internet.
Most people are scared to go against the grain,
is what I'm saying.
So you got real street niggas who will wake up and read some shit.
And this shit might say,
goddamn,
savage got down,
whatever,
savage got down,
took the standing toll on 50 niggas of some shit.
But this is a real street nigga.
He ain't even seen no black and white.
But he sees this post guy got down.
50,000 comments.
50,000 light, man,
that's real.
I ain't even listened to it.
Half the time,
niggas scroll on Instagram.
I be on Instagram in the bed, like with my phone on silent.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, so the audio ain't playing.
I know niggas do that.
Half the time, niggas are just scrolled and read the caption and don't even listen to the audio.
Yeah, yeah.
And just keep scrolling.
And now in their mind, shit, that's true.
When they call their partner later, man, you've seen that shit outside?
Man, that nigger just told on 90 niggers.
Now, hey, let me know if you want me just let it play or do you want me to chime in, but not too much or chiming a lot.
You guys just let me know you want it to pace.
Yo, it really, he's talking.
talking about I disagree with what he's saying he doesn't like which a lot of streetnakes
don't like that the quote internet and there's just calling the internet nerds that the internet
are now holding y'all accountable to have things one way what he's basically saying that is we
used to pick and choose in the streets on what we want to enforce or who we want to dislike
but now the internet sees everything and the internet is saying well you didn't like when he
did that, why you like, why
you ignore when he did that? That's
what I think he's trying to say, and he's trying to say
we got to go back to the old way
where we could pick and choose
in peace.
If that's the caption, boy,
I'll try my name. I'll try me after it. I'm to keep
it to read. I'm going to listen to it.
I'm going to take notes. This last one.
I'm going to take notes and I'll try me.
He's like, man, the nigga fake
because why a nigga face in that? But it's
content though.
Nah. But you said you saw a fake
about yourself. But I ain't
never saw that kind of fake.
Yeah, but you ain't really, you ain't no rapper or nothing.
So, niggas ain't, ain't attacking you.
You ain't being attacked.
You've never been attacked on the internet.
Nigger, you ain't just been attacked on the internet.
Man, you barely, but I'll be Googling a lot of that shit.
It's a lot.
But they got a couple of them all pages.
Big Bank, God, further, and all type of shit on internet.
No, I'm saying attack is in.
They're trying to tear you down.
That's just, niggas just trying to make their own story of your mystique
because you have mystique.
So, niggas is just trying to tap in to like,
Damn, why everybody respect bank?
Why everybody fuck with bank?
So they want to go put some shit together and make a document.
Niggas is just making free documentaries, basically.
They ain't winning there.
No fact checking.
They ain't talked to nobody that knows you or none.
They just putting their own narrative together.
That's not tearing you down, though.
If you was an artist and you was beefing with a turn,
you know, some of these artists got crazy fan bases.
Like, they'll come kill your ass for this artist type of shit.
So if you got goddamn 20,000 of them niggas,
typing all day some shit about you.
And in the street, nigga, so slow.
I didn't have, bro, on my mama, this on my mama, bro.
A nigga, oh, my, oh, gee, like, big homie.
Nigger, he was following a fake page of me and walked upon me like,
nephew, why you didn't follow me back, nephew?
This shit, the page say 21 underscore, savage underscore fan page.
On my mama, bro, I'm dead serious.
Like, on God.
This ain't even me.
This page got nine followers on.
What the hell are you?
That ain't my mama.
pain but he really like
probably felt some type of way all the time like man
nephew don't even follow me back you don't f*** with me
niggins it's a fan pain yeah
so god
damn you get what I'm saying? No for sure
but let me ask you something
when do we take this shit for feedback can we see
we wake up and see so much
that's true
how do we decipher what's true or what's fake
you got to do your homework and do your research
when it comes
to certain shit like
Like goddamn shit that you know in your heart is serious that'll make you look at a nigger another way.
You got to go fact check and do certain shit.
That's what I do.
But I'm a nigga that I already kind of be kind of looking at niggins.
Like, I'm going to tell you what the worst thing it is.
If somebody make a rumor and this fucked up on my part, I got to fix this.
And you type a nigger be on my line like, babe, you can't do that because I do.
Like if I already feel like you're capable of that and I see it, boy, it's true.
But you think that's fucked up, though.
It is.
Because if a nigger did that to you, it'll be fucked up.
I ain't tripping though.
That's human.
Yeah, but you don't give a fuck about niggas though.
Yeah.
You don't care to be around niggins anyway.
Really?
So that's different.
But that's what I'm saying.
So you already,
you already like an isolated nigga anyway.
So it makes sense why that's your outlook.
But a nigga like me, I'd be around.
What you weren't like that at first?
What happened?
What happened, bro?
What?
When you started being around at first,
when you first came out,
you weren't even fucking with niggas.
How you started fucking getting cool and shit?
I don't know.
I think, I think it was a good thing for my life.
I do too.
What I'm saying? How did it happen?
Just getting bigger and just niggas fucking with me and shit.
Just being in Atlanta for real.
But you know, did you ever see yourself like who you is now?
Like as far as what though?
Just as cool as I am.
Or are you talking about like the growth?
Yeah, the growth.
I can't say I didn't because this is what I did it for.
So, when niggas be like, hell no, I never pictured this shit.
Yes, the fuck you did.
What's you picture then?
You picture you were going to sell three albums.
The motherfuckers were going to sell
2,000 first week and then you was going to retire.
You obviously pictured the biggest shit you can.
But could you picture your mindset, though, changing.
You know how we'd be like, bro, I ain't never leaving hood.
I ain't never, I ain't, you know how the shit.
I ain't never been one of them niggas.
But I'm just saying, you know how a nigga.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like trapped in that mind.
Yeah, like thinking, like, if I do this, I'm sold out type shit.
Yeah, I say this.
I say got down.
I say, I say, I was just,
just talking to Harold and him last night about this.
Got down.
I'd say, if Johnny didn't die, I don't think I would have been no rapper.
So I probably went to picture that all this shit type shit.
Because I know we would have hit a lick for about 500 bricks or something or something.
That would have just still made me a million now.
I was going to be a million down the street.
Regardless.
So, God, damn.
If he didn't die, I would have never went to rap rap.
Cap and I love Savage. Savage was kicking out local doors.
Like, come on, you're not hitting a $500,000.
I was just kicking out red of doors.
I was one of them niggas just in the hood all day, serving or whatever, just kicking it.
And nigger just don't see outside of this shit.
Like, nigger, my first time going to Buckhead, like on my own, I probably was 18, 19.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, nigger, I ain't never passed Mawlin unless I was going to another niggerhood to get some or get them some type shit.
You get what I'm saying?
So I understand.
why niggas mindset be like, because they, it's a trap.
It's really a trap.
It's a trap in many ways.
If you think about it, like, nigga, this should have trapped because your ass going to die.
I go to jail.
This should have trapped because it keeps your mind right here.
So you trap mentally.
And then some niggas be physically trapped because they can't afford to leave and go nowhere.
Do you get a niggas grace that, like, that you love, that you came up with,
that you know they still kind of trapped in their mind.
So I'm going to get a little great, bro.
I get where you at, but you don't get where I'm at.
It depends on what they're saying.
Like you're saying if a nigger talking shit or if a n...
No, I'm just saying like, just say Vincent, if all y'all together, right, you're trying to bring the whole hood out and nigger see a...
Somebody, one of the out of town niggin stripping.
And it'd be like, damn, bro, you're gonna script a nigga on my favor, but I get what you, you know what I'm saying?
You know how this shit goes?
Cause you can't contain everybody like, shit, but...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Little man, for them trying to drop up back off.
Those nigg been gone back to Buckhead and whatever they are.
I don't got them type of friends.
friends, that is just a nigger gone, a nigger gone for the show not do now while I'm right there.
Not why you write that one a nigger.
I don't care.
If I'm gone, I don't care.
But it's still on your face if you go on to that.
Shit, fuck on.
If we ain't, I ain't cool with the nigger.
I don't know the nigger.
You can know the nigger.
Are we cool, though?
Do I care about him?
What's cool and care of?
Oh, see, that's a misunderstanding.
What's cool to care about?
What do you mean?
Like, do I have a relationship with this nigger?
Do I highlight this nigga?
Like, do he call me when he come here?
Or do I call him?
I go there. Are you talking about a nigger who just I might wear peers?
I look you my man right? Right.
One of your man do something one of my man's. How that's what to work?
You gotta get that back.
If this your man.
But who's getting some back?
Shit, your ass gonna give it back or ya's gonna find out the hard way.
I respect that.
You f*** my face card up.
That's like saying you don't care of a nigger smack me.
I ain't gonna just force you to give it back for free.
I'm gonna give you something.
because you didn't already did the work.
Yeah.
That's just me being a gentleman.
Like, like, goddamn, I ain't gonna make you pay for it.
Like, if it's my folks, like, I ain't gonna be like, hey, bank shit, they want this for it.
I'm gonna just clean it up like here.
Oh, you're something like a robbery.
Huh.
Mm-hmm.
And when they took Shockley's exchange?
We'll figure that out.
That's just gentleman's shit.
Oh, Shagliz is dropping today.
If it's a nigga, if it ain't, bang, if it's a nigga like, who I just know a little bit,
man, y'all have to charge that shit today.
I ain't getting in that shit.
Yeah.
I don't want nothing.
Don't call you got nothing that.
petty-ass shit, because you're just going to make it some old shit.
So how do you maneuver with all these niggas, though?
Like, we come from the street, bro.
We got a bunch of niggas that feel as if, though,
bruh, I got to be right now with you.
Like, how do you maneuver that, and how do you decipher who right here,
who right here, who right there?
How do you do that shit?
I think I went through that era younger, so now it's like,
it's different now.
I feel like all my brothers know how this shit go.
So they don't overly be trying to be around me.
Like, they just, nigger better not play with them.
Yeah.
He, bro, know how to move.
He know how to carry itself.
Like, certain shit, of course, all my niggas gonna be their birthday parties or album or shit
like that.
But for the most part, niggas just be, they got kids, families.
They're doing what they gotta do to goddamn take care of their folks and got down
We talk whenever we talk and kick it whenever we kick it.
But it ain't like no overly.
And I'm not really no nigga who just be out everywhere all the time anyway.
So half the time I'm in the house.
So goddamn.
I think Atlanta, this is what I think.
This is how I really feel.
I feel like Atlanta is really got down.
What's the word?
Atlanta really a pedophile.
Because Atlanta really groomed us, bro, since we was kids.
What the fuck?
No, just listen to what I'm saying.
Maybe pedify the worst word.
Let's say,
maybe pedify the wrong word.
Atlanta is a grooming-ass city.
Wait, what?
Yo, Savage.
Clemson some.
Atlanta groomed ass nigger since we was 10,
Atlanta, 12, on club life, bro.
Like, nigga, when I was a lamb nigga on my mama,
I was taking out trash for $2 in apartments.
The Cater skate.
Just to get some chucks and some dickies to go to the Cater skate.
Getting wristband.
Got-down, nigga.
I used to have pictures with no liquor, you just get a picture of Sprite.
So your ass getting groomed for the club from you goddamn middle school.
So now when you got down 30, man, nigga, I've been going to the club since I was 11, 12 years old.
Bro, f*** the club.
You get what I'm saying?
Atlanta groomed the nigga, bro.
So I'm saying like, and niggas banging out at these clubs.
Oh, back then?
Hell yeah.
But it's totally different.
Megaplex.
God damn vivid.
long star, palladium, all this shit, niggas, banging out, man,
niggas shun at these clubs, we, 15, 16.
Girls getting shot, n-knit shot.
What you think made you jump out of the poor to the street, though?
Because, you know, to me, if I would have met you, bro,
I don't feel like you're supposed to be in the street.
Because niggas don't know you're really smart-ass.
Let it go-ass nigger, call, nigger, phone, let it go-a-niguer.
But a lot of niggas is.
Them are the most dangerous niggas, though.
I ain't saying you were dangerous, bro.
I ain't saying I'm dangerous.
I'm just saying, don't let them take that ass got down.
I think got down.
But I'm the same way though.
I know.
I know.
Like,
hell now,
that shit ain't here.
That's what I'm saying.
We some hell on all-ass niggum.
That's what I'm saying.
Look,
you drop the bike, bro.
Can you still hear him, bro?
Wait, wait.
But yeah,
I got down.
I don't know what.
Why he said let it go?
Jump in the street,
which is my circumstances.
I feel like I was forced in the street.
Because I couldn't do nothing else.
I ain't got no green card.
I can't get no job.
So how the hell is,
whether I'm going to survive?
Yeah.
You feel what I'm saying?
I don't feel like I jumped in the street.
I feel like I was kind of like forced.
Nica, we got down moved to Atlanta, nigga.
My mom had me, my little sister.
She had four kids.
We had a roommate.
We were staying in Timber Trace.
We had a roommate, nigga.
So my mama and my stepdaddy, which really was like my daddy growing up, slept on the bottom bump, and we slept on the top bump.
Then got down, we moved across the street to these other apartments.
We had a two-bedroom.
They in one room, all the kids in one room.
Got down, and we moved to another apartment, and the boys got their own and the girls got their own.
But by that time, there was six kids, and I got down three-bedroom apartment.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm already knowing in my head, like, just being like a young.
smart, nigga like, boy, money thin.
Damn, I'm the oldest.
Right.
So I gotta do something to got down.
If I want these shoes, Nick, I've been asking my mama
for a pair of Air Force Ones for four months.
She can't afford them.
I'm gonna get me some weed, sell a little weed, take out trash,
sell Kool-Aid in school, sell candy in school.
I'm doing all that, you get what I'm saying?
I feel like being a hustler is what put me in the streets.
What you think?
When do you think you got fascinated with the streets,
I think I always been fascinated
because my mama was telling me, bro,
when I was got down three and four,
she used to buy me oozy cap guns and shit
like as a little boy, on God.
See, it's pictures that my mama showed me
why I'm throwing up guns
and doing like this and shit
as a little boy.
You know it's a difference between
a street nigger, a hustler,
and a street, street nigger.
This is how I defy it.
I say it's a hood nigger,
A hustler and a street nigger.
Okay, breaking out.
The hood nigger, your ass just from the hood.
Okay.
So you know how certain shit go, but you ain't ever did nothing.
What I said is a hustler, you want to get you some money,
but you ain't with no drama, no bullshit.
You ain't trying to do nothing to nobody,
and you don't want nobody to do nothing to you.
Screet nigger, you're going to do all of it.
Anything goes.
Yeah, I agree with that.
So what you think?
What you were?
A street nigger, for sure.
Did you start off a hussie?
Yeah, I started off a hustling.
Yeah.
Because hustling was cool when I was 13, 14.
This jeezy Gucci era.
You know what I hate though?
And this all said.
And I hate the charming.
I'm not even trying to chat.
I really do believe, like, I talk to him so much.
I really do believe if me and Savage, we weren't who we are
and we went to the same high school, we'd be friends.
I promise you, I think we'd be friends.
He's one of the only people I feel like we would be friends.
Why?
Because ain't no money.
A nigga don't want no money?
Because niggas killed the streets.
everybody dead
and it ain't no money in it
when I was a young nigga bro
the first thing I wanted to do
in the streets
was get some money
that was my whole motive
of being in the streets
I ain't even care about guns
and none of that shit
so I'm getting a samma weed
for $20
knicking this shit up
and got damn nick bags
where they was like
125 by 125
getting them from the store
that's back when the store used to sell
the scale and the bags
right now
The battery too.
The battery too.
And you had to make sure they calibrated that motherfucker.
Because sometimes they give you an uncalibrated.
Yeah.
So that was my whole setup.
You feel what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So I'm getting to sound, breaking this motherfucking out.
I ain't standing in front of the store and nothing.
Like I'm going to school.
You know, there might be little folks in the neighborhood who just know a nigga bad.
Like buy your weed just because, all that type of shit.
Damn, niggas start selling dope.
Niggia getting a three gram honey, a whip.
You know what I'm saying?
Then that was the thing.
Then I started goddamn selling dope and soft.
So I'm getting goddamn three rounds of soft.
I'm going to the GNC store, putting got down 0.5 of isotol on the saw.
Not even knowing what I'm doing, but shit, I just hear Gucci, isotol, isotol, so I'm isotoling my shit, too.
Nigger had Henning like, man, that shit made me, giving me a bad drain.
I'm standing up with these, nigger.
All my mom and, I've been in the colony, nigger.
I had a partner who snotted, right?
God damn.
So they'll shoot dice and shit.
And it was a nigga from the west side
that used to be out there too.
And it was another nigga.
We used to call him Nacho Man
because his baby mama made the nacho
like she was like the Candleys.
So goddamn.
I'll be outside in apartments
with them niggas to sell me in the morning
of them to be my whole bomb
and soft.
Like just all night type shit.
So that was my first life.
I'm hustling.
It was about money.
Now,
Niggas don't want to do nothing.
It ain't even no money in the street for real.
Unless you plan on a certain level type shit.
It ain't none.
It's money in the street.
If you plan on a certain level.
But you have to wait.
The grinder don't exist no more.
That's what the difference is.
So that's why, nigga, the cons always outweigh the pros of the street.
If you're asking go to jail, or you can die, you can get robbed.
But it was worth it because you can get some real money.
You can grind up.
Right.
You can get some money.
Now, your ass can't go buy nothing and come up off no block.
It's probably it's probably two two hoods in Atlanta that you can just really block serve for
real.
You get what I'm saying?
And grind for real.
But you can't, as a young nigga, you can't grind no more.
The young niggas, it's really like an oxymoron.
Is that what it's called?
Oxymorra.
Some shit just don't make sense.
Got-down, nigger, you signing up for some shit to only die, go to jail.
Back in the day, you were signing up the shit.
Get some money.
I might go to jail.
Now you only signing up to die or go to jail.
Back in the day, you're going to get some money before you do one or the other.
Right.
Before you die, go to jail nine times ten, you're going to get some money.
Yeah.
It's like...
But the cons still outweigh the pros back then, too.
That's what I'm saying.
Now I'm saying it ain't no pros.
It's nothing but cons.
Back then it was like, all right, it's some pros to this shit.
But the cons is kind of higher, though.
Because if they catch your ass, they're going to do it to you.
But got down now, nigga, there's no pros at all.
You're literally getting in the street to die or go to jail.
Niggas don't even, nah, that's crazy.
Niggas, I was just thinking about that on the way here.
Niggas don't even introduce their self as,
shit, I'm ready to get some money.
I'm ready to smack something.
I'm ready to smack something, bro.
You need a smacker.
Oh, God.
Like, hell no, nephew.
How do we change that?
You can't.
You can't.
How?
What you're going to grow, like gross, more crackheads?
What's the same price that if he was buying a bad.
A bad, yep.
That's what a nigga on.
I'm gonna pay for that three five.
Damn diggy, dude.
Hey, I'm up for the bad, man.
Shit, bro.
$1,200.
Well, shit.
Give me a, um, two-pil.
Yeah, give me a, for the same price of the door, bro.
That shit goes up, bro.
I gotta bust this motherfucker open.
Put it back in the vacuum and sit.
I gotta charge you just for that.
You make a nigga work.
You wanna pay the same price.
You gotta think, man, I knew this street shit all over with, bro.
It's over with because it ain't no money.
Niggas is, these, niggas is he's scared to get the money with the young nigg.
Just say, man.
Y'all came on to this spot, y'all was a house full of young man.
I see, I see, you know, who's selling what?
First thing I said, I see all these guns in here.
I don't want to know who doing what with the gun.
Who getting some, who's trying to get some money?
Nigger won't sell nothing.
Niggins.
Niggas sell out of these bullets.
You can try to trade, po.
It was a couple niggas doing a list.
But I'm just saying, like, it ain't even,
niggas ain't even trusting that no more.
Like, you find a nigger bag or saving you front a nigga bag.
He's gonna go say that bad for the same price
You're fronting to him for to have some money in the pocket
So basically it's fuck you off back
Right
So when you get it to him is like
Running off.
It ain't even like you running off
Wait, I was muted
Yeah
No, I was saying like when Big Bang said
Yo, yo, how we change that?
Like I'm like yo
Why they acted like this is like the fucking
Presidential address for the streets
Like street nags are like
Yo put the guns down no more shooting right now
Everybody go inside and watch the Savage interview
We gotta see the future
the streets. Street thing is a degenerate.
Like, they're not listening
to Savage or nobody else. Like, they're
going to just, they're cannibals.
Goddamn.
You would be a fool to make
200 off of it and give a nigga
30200. That's always.
The math don't even make sense.
You'd rather him be mad than you bitch. Right.
You just want to show your bitch, I'm a man at this
point. Who fucked it up? Well, when
did it fuck up? What, the street?
Yeah. This is why I always ask, when did it
fuck up? Like, when did it go left?
I feel like with time, everything changes.
So I feel like it was eventually going to happen.
Because just think about it like this.
Like, it's always been a drug that was in high demand.
So in the 60s and the 70s, Harron had his fall off.
Then you had got down, because you got to think,
ain't nobody's stupid, bro.
So if you a child and you was born in the 70s and your mama got down,
died of an overdose, you know to stay away from heroin.
So that shit spread.
Then they wore on drugs.
Everybody against heroin, woo-woo-woo.
So now niggas know, like, no, I ain't going to do heroin.
That's a bad drug.
That shit makes you look like a j.
All right, cool.
Cocaine come.
Cocaine ain't never really made niggas look like no jay.
So cocaine always, you're rich people.
At first, that shit was like a goddamn rich people drug.
So cocaine and weed are more like social drugs.
Okay.
But then you had crack cocaine and you see crack cocaine
Auntie teeth missing she never took a shower
She used to be fine used to be fine
Ump used to have bricks he started smoking this shit now is at work on cars and sit at the store and nephew give me 50 cents
So now we know as y'niggas why ain't smoking crack
So that fade out you don't got no no new demand it ain't like you got people that's turning 17 like I'm finally left my mom's house I'm smoking crack
Nobody doing that.
So naturally, for real, so naturally,
the demand go down.
So now with our error,
nigga, you've got to think from the 80s
to the late 2000s, nigga,
crack was the drug and bricks and shit
was like, them was the, it's always
been weed too. Before weed.
Yeah, but not like,
not, nigga ain't no, nigga made no Frank Lucas money.
Yeah, no, yeah, yeah.
Nick I ain't made no Frank Lucas, no,
200 million off no goddamn heroin.
since the back then.
Yeah.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah.
They weren't running how they were running like that.
And then Serms, Heron was really,
certain cities really had it fucked up on Harron.
Atlanta had this one little pocket of the city
where Heron really was just like,
all right, this is where all the Heron shit go on.
But goddamn, you, major cities and shit
was really like, well, New York,
the whole Brooklyn on Heron, like,
everybody, like, line wrapped around.
You know what I'm saying?
So what I'm saying is, got down.
Crack was the drug that,
all the 80s babies, late 70s babies
that was they grind, that was they come up like,
well, I went from got-down buying the goddamn zip to buying the nine to buying
two bricks.
By the way, chat, he's going to get into talking about Drake.
We don't have that.
He don't have that.
He's going to talk about Drake.
He going to talk about Metro.
He's going to get into some shit.
This is a three-hour interview.
I'm going to be honest with you.
We're going to tell this out, pause, until the album drop.
I kind of got some topics in the mix, but tonight's like a 21-savis.
I haven't gonna cap it.
If you, if you're a street, nigga, if you're a kingpin in the street,
and you tell a nigga you got 10,000 purse,
a nigga gonna be like, boy, that nigga got too much fet-nall on them purse, right?
Ain't nobody buying them purse.
So, so the pharmaceutical hustle.
I give you a teacher, though.
He told me this.
He said, yo, he mentions, oh, maybe I'm giving you too much intro.
Actually, let me not see that.
Because you can't just go get this shit like that.
But it was relating to the dirk.
young boy beef and he was saying I guess I hope he says this as like recently because
when he told me on the phone I was like no you lie he's like nah nigger like I was on
phone both of them niggins I'm gonna see how much he says though
heroin weed is regulated kind of but in certain states it's illegal so you can't they can't
regulate but heroin cocaine all that shit it ain't regulated because it's illegal you think that's
what's making like the rap gang crowd like everybody want to rap because ain't no woman
street, like that ain't going on in the street?
Yeah.
I feel like, I feel like our era of rappers, we was the first era of rappers to where niggas knew
more, way more that, okay, these niggas are thinning.
See, like the previous era, like, if you're not from the east side of Atlanta, you're really
not going to know Goochie really used to be taking niggas shit, slapping niggas head, trapping,
you ain't gonna really know that.
But you kind of knew because of the...
the shit he caught with the self-defense shit.
But got down, for the most part, it's just like, growing up, that shit was a, I used to think
BMF was like fake.
I ain't even think that shit was real, because I ain't never seen none of that shit in L.M.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But you knew it was, it existed.
Mm-hmm.
But our era was the first era where it's like, niggas really believe us, I think, like, a little more.
Like, they really balked into, nah, these niggas, some street niggas for real.
This nigg is a street nigga for real.
Like, ooh.
So I feel like that inspired the niggas in the hood, the younger niggas to like, shit, bro, daddy, I can rap.
Let me see.
Gucci.
Geezy.
Tia.
T.
I think niggas.
Yeah, for sure.
Niggas think them niggas.
Yeah, for sure.
Niggins think they're not.
I'm saying it's not as hard.
It's not as like, boy, that nigger was a street nigger for real.
No, when y'all girl, you got to something with actually be a street.
Right.
Now see, like then you could be kinda on the fence.
Like we don't know, we kinda, he kinda, he's mama them stayed.
You don't never know, it wasn't as bad.
I think now that's a good point.
You had to be.
Right.
Now, like, you gotta be like, shit.
Who do them niggas, what, them niggil undone?
Right.
That's the first thing I'm gonna say.
No, nah, nigger don't you say what they done or none that.
The first thing they say, oh, they like that?
Yep.
They like that?
Yep.
You said, young nigger walk up.
I don't like that, OG.
That's what the niggins gonna say.
They're like that.
They're probably be like that where they're from.
So now it's like, that's why I said the internet and the street shit.
Because guess who asking if they like that?
It ain't the streets.
It's the internet.
Yep.
See what I'm saying?
Yeah.
It wasn't no internet for niggas to question Gucci or T.I.
Or Jeezy authenticity back then.
We didn't have the, the fan didn't have a voice.
The fan got a voice now.
Back then you didn't really have a voice.
And it was more of a machine.
Whatever the label pumping and pushing, shit, nigger, where else you're going to go listen to some music at?
We control the radio.
We control what CDs get printed up.
We control goddamn wet videos come on the TV.
You don't really, really didn't have a choice on what music you listen to right then
because it was only so many options.
You think the internet can destroy a nigga though?
Hell yeah.
Thousand percent.
The fans got the voice.
So how do you not get destroyed from the internet?
I don't think they can destroy you if you J. Kee-Gee-on.
I'm not saying destroy you to the point where you go from 100.
to zero, but they can take your ass from 100 to 40, 50.
For sure.
Overly.
Quit, too.
Quick.
Goal.
Let the wrong narrative get the going about you.
I'm God.
But I'm saying, what about the niggas who fight through them narrative, though?
Because you got some niggas to fight through them narrative.
Them niggas still ain't get no money like that like they was.
Still ain't get no money like they were.
Like the rap way.
Who?
We've been wearing lace fronts and shit.
Who that?
The nigger who told in New York, man, who told all them all of them.
He did tell me you mentioned Mexican.
Oh, you say he...
The internet took his shit down.
I think he just stopped.
Nah, because he can't go.
Ain't no gas in the car.
What you mean? He just stopped.
You know what I'm saying is, bro.
You not get what I'm saying.
What I'm saying was like, bro,
certain shit happens and it,
and maybe it took a toll of you.
Like Kanye, right? Let's say Kanye, for example.
for example.
They've been trying to tear him down for ever.
You can't tell certain
nigger down.
Don't matter what to hear him.
But I feel like his tear down is divided.
I don't think it was overall
like most people agree.
His shit always been 50-50.
That's the difference.
See, when Buddy did what he did,
I think he was the first snitch
that went viral and shit.
I ain't trying to be funny.
Yes, you are, brother.
I'm talking about, no, nigga, I'm talking about
as an artist, bro.
I'm talking about as an artist.
As a lit rapper, he was the first rapper that in the internet era snitched, bro.
And it was public as hell.
He got out.
He tried to still act like, I snitched so what?
I'll kill everybody still.
And they're like, man, shut up.
And his shit went down.
And he ain't recuperated.
He gave up.
I think if he just shut up and didn't need to be like.
Nobody would have wanted to hear that shit, bro.
It's a lane for everybody, man.
I'm saying, I'm not saying he had z.
But I'm saying his ass at like 20.
So of course he could drop some shit and he could still rapping shit for sure.
But nigga he was on top of the world before that shit.
He was one of the most litigants.
They were sympathizing for at first like...
No, they won. They was on his eyes.
Everything he posted, I have a thousand rat in Woges are funded.
But I think that shit is getting...
It's getting easier to tell now.
I think, I think got down...
The stitching combo is here now. Let's go.
Hmm, it's getting easier to tell.
And bound back and still be like, you'll be all right.
Who they talk about?
Because nobody really didn't give a fuck about it.
I can agree with that.
Because I don't give a fuck.
Who told no more like?
Because that shit turned into the hater.
Just imagine about the nigger bank, the niggins conversations we have on the phone.
Brother, I wouldn't be on, I wouldn't be prospective with bank.
I'll be blackball.
I don't think you'll be blackball.
Yes, I will.
Because everybody who really control shit, fuck with you.
No, bro.
But a lot of them been doing some little slick shit too that I have to call a lot.
They won't be calling out a lot of shit, bro.
I just feel like...
You're talking too much in codes.
That's because you know who you are and your morals and principles.
So it's certain shit that you won't speak on on camera because of who you are.
It ain't because, goddamn, you don't want people to know how you feel.
It's just like, nigger.
And you have relationships with certain niggas.
So it's like, I respect our relationship.
Even if I ain't f***ing with you, nigga.
I respect our relationship.
more than to go on the internet and dog you out.
Facts.
So that's the difference.
But even people that I don't know that I see like, I remember one time you and
live with a cop one day, like, bro, you got to start speaking on the current types.
I'm like, no, bro, because I can't accept, say, maybe as about say my real mind how I feel
about some shit that happened, some shit in New York or something.
Right.
I don't, like, where we come from, where you say certain shit by niggas and how they feel,
you gotta stand on that.
Yeah, niggas stand on it.
No, but I'm saying, I ain't trying to stand in there.
That's what Wack 100 do.
Stay on Billing.
You ain't trying to defend yourself?
No, I ain't trying to even nothing.
Because I ain't trying to.
Oh, God.
I feel like that too.
I ain't, you know what I don't want no problems.
Me neither.
I don't want it because I already know it's going to turn back on me.
Oh, God.
Nigger's going to be the bad guy.
Yes.
On God.
But I'm going to be in the bad guy on my opinion of a nigga.
Right.
To me, that's some whole ass shit.
But a nigga ain't going to see you.
I'll be trying to be seen, though.
A nigga ain't going to do shit.
I don't want to see if a dick going to do that because I'm going to do something.
Oh, God.
So I don't even want to be in that situation.
Like, I know if I'm going to be like, just say things, how do you be on the internet, all that shit with these niggas.
I ain't going to call their name.
All that shit they be doing.
And then they leave in office when I see you.
And then left off at that.
So when I see you, bro, that's the last thing we said.
How are they supposed to go?
Oh, that's why I don't understand that part of the internet yet.
So that's why I did.
But it depends.
How you're saying?
Like, if you saying, okay.
Like clubhouse.
Like you did this.
Got it.
I don't agree with this.
That's cool. But if you're saying, bitch-eyed, pusside, you did this, woo-woo, then that's-no.
No, but if I say that, listen, I could be being humbly correct and saying, like, I just don't agree with that.
And he could get on line to be like, oh, bitch-ass-nick, who-woo, now that, what's my next response?
God on your side, because you're playing defense.
You wasn't, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, I ain't telling you.
I ain't telling you to do nothing, but I'm just saying this is my, my, my, my perspective on that situation.
Yeah.
God gonna be on your side because you didn't start shit.
You just gave your opinion on some shit
everybody else on the internet talking about.
But to me, my voice is different though.
If I say, you can say something, no, not you.
Somebody else can say something and niggas take it for like, shit, yeah.
But if I say something, they knowin who can hear it,
if that makes sense what I'm saying.
Like Joe Bunn can say some shit by any one of y'all.
Y'all be like, shit, that Joe Bunn, man,
they ain't thinking about Joe.
Bank said.
Yeah, but that's because we have,
Not even just you, anybody. It could be any other rapper, bro, just me.
I don't think that about any other rapper. Shit, I do. But matter of fact, I feel like
that ain't even your cloth. That's why I would try to tell y'all. So I agree with you.
We was wrong for trying to tell you to do that shit. Because it could be a whole other
rap, they just look at it like, bro, you're from the street so you know better. Right.
That's how niggas look at it like, okay, these ninn and nerves or whatever, whoever
said whatever, they don't know the code that we're supposed to stand on. Yeah.
So, but you know, you're saying that, and it's,
This niggas that's like savage and other street niggas be like,
shit, we would be, whatever he's saying,
he might be tripping, but we will, him, he's right.
Right.
You know what I said?
Niggas don't want that pressure.
Yeah.
But that's a hard thing to do trying to be a journalist.
By the way, I co-sign him, why I say,
yo, when he see a nigger, niggas don't be seeing him, that's the problem.
Uh-huh.
This thing be calling my phone, hey, Joe, this thing has called my phone like,
oh, like the way that d'nick said in the interview.
Like, bro, you want me to get the fight with what about, what about guests or some shit?
Like, why are you talking like that?
Cairn that shit down a little bit.
That shit sounded like, aggressive like.
Niggas ain't getting too spicy.
So you say we got, y'all, let's take it back to me.
Y'all first got here, bro.
Y'all came, you said it was you, your mom, your sisters.
My, my pops.
Yeah, not your biological.
Back, let's get to the thug combo.
Thug combo.
But you said some more people came with y'all too, though, right?
Yeah.
Like my mama, like some couples friends type of shit.
Like they're a couple, they're a couple, they're a couple, they're a couple, but they all cool gruettes with each other type shit.
Yeah, let's go.
Yeah.
So when y'all got here, you said you dropped out of poor first person you met with Skinny?
Yeah.
Long live Skinny.
Damn, what is it?
What is it?
Yeah, no, no, no it won.
No it won.
No it won.
It was Chuck.
Skinny was my first best friend.
Okay.
Alright, boom. So when we first moved here, we moved to Hamburg. We stayed in the apartment's car, Park Run. That was a car from Polo Club. And there was a nigga named Chuck. He had he had hella brothers and shit. Yogi. I forget his other brother named name, but I stayed in 500 build and they stayed at the end building type of shit. So that was like my first friend. That was like, what, second grade or some shit. Then when we moved to Lake Tree, got down. That's when I met Skinny.
Skinny stayed right up under me, literally right up under me type shit.
What skin was on in for a middle?
Bad. Bad as a motherfucker.
And he was right with him.
You know them kids where I got down, he the youngest, but his next closest sibling, 15 years older than him.
So he wanted them bad ass kids.
Like his mama don't play that shit though.
But when he leave her house, he's doing all kinds of shit.
That nigga was already smoking and all that shit like when I first met him.
And he like, what, two years older to me.
So if I was in like, what was he smoking though?
Yeah, picking shit up out the ground, smoking it, picking up black and miles out the ground and shit.
So if I was in third grade, he would probably in fifth grade or sixth grade type shit.
Yeah, I think he said picking up.
Yeah, he was in middle school.
He was in middle school.
I was in middle school.
How old?
Skinny like, like three years older than me or some shit.
Like, he might be two, no, he two years older than me.
Or middle school cigarette, I'm thinking about how much.
No, but the way our birthday set up got down, I think, you get what I'm saying?
I think either my birthday late or his birthday late.
So it made it like he was three grade, two years older than me, but three grades high than me.
I'm confused.
Do you like, it's like dumb nil, 10 niggas we probably can name your unlaw since you've been there, right?
Right.
If not more, that's like close, close niggas.
Do that make you feel as if though like survivors or more or feel like you just chosen like sheds for me?
Uh, no, I don't really think that deep about that shit.
I just believe in, like, cause and effect type shit.
What you mean?
I feel like, goddamn, if I'm sitting next to a nigger that I don't like,
and I pulled his trigger and the bullet hit his head and hit the wrong shit, he's going to die.
I don't think God was like, it's your time to die, son.
I just feel like the bullet went through his head and hit the wrong shit,
and he died type shit.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So I believe in cause and effect.
I don't feel like God was like got down or the most high was like, shit.
I'm from the kill, got down, 15 of your closest friends and leave you alive because you're chosen.
I don't look at shit like that.
I look at it like certain situations happen and my brother's lost their life.
And I went through shit too and I just.
This is a tough conversation I had with him in the way.
And got hit and got down.
That's why I'm still here.
He's so processing, I could tell.
Nah.
This is why I feel like this, though, because, nigga, this is on my mom.
When I first got shot, right?
And me and my mama had a house together and shit.
Me, her, and her last baby daddy, my little sister daddy, right?
So, God, damn.
After I got shot, we was in the kitchen.
I had some act in the kitchen.
I used to keep out my punts in the cabinet and shit.
So I'm pulling up.
She like, got down.
She like, um, what she said?
She said, goddamn.
Do you not feel like, do you feel like this happened for a reason?
Do you feel like you made it through this for a reason?
And I was like, why you say that?
And she was like, goddamn.
Because Chinese,
Johnny got shot way less times than you and he didn't make it.
And I was like, nah, I was like, my belief in science and cause and effect.
Like I don't believe like shit happens because it's like supposed to be like a part of my
story or like, I don't.
So you say he doesn't believe in destiny.
We go through life, live in life and we make certain decisions and certain things happen
and people lose their life, you get what I'm saying?
people make it through
and some people lose their life later or whatever
the case may be. And goddamn
she was like... My next question would be...
I don't think so. I think so. Yeah, I believe in science too,
but do you believe in luck and what do you think
luck emanates from? Because you're right.
If the bullet goes to the wrong thing, you're dead
and if the bullet doesn't go through, you're alive.
But
it's kind of luck.
What do you think luck comes from?
And that's how it would evoke that spiritual or whatever
conversation I think they were trying to get to.
Did this cow watches goddamn
Dad die to be a state for a chosen purpose.
Just real shit, though.
Just think about it, though.
Not on no funny shit.
No, but that's murder.
He's essentially saying he doesn't believe in fate or destiny.
And not from no beef shit.
All my partners died on licks and shit.
I'm saying, but people, most people that eat steaks and all that shit that y'all be eating.
You know what I'm saying?
That's sin.
Right.
I'm not saying it ain't sinning it, but I'm saying why don't we put that same thought into their life?
No, what I'm saying is we all chose the streets, right?
Right.
We all chose the streets.
You stayed sitting.
We could have done anything.
Right.
We could have got their soul can for ever.
I'm saying all the people that chose the streets with us didn't make it through most of them.
So it got to be a reason why.
But you only feel like that because you have a human brain.
So in your brain, you feel like your life is more valuable than the animal's life.
in your brain just naturally.
That's how we all.
That's how we all.
So we put deep-ass thought into goddamn
our life.
And when somebody lose their life,
we have a funeral, we do all these things,
we celebrate.
Because we look at it as way more sacred
as a human losing his life.
But who gives us the power to say
our life is more valuable than anybody like,
another human, any living thing.
Yeah, no, you're right about that.
So, so, so, niggas never say,
do dogs go to heaven, do chickens go to heaven,
Do they go to hell?
Because animals don't never sin.
And they kill like a motherfucker.
And that shit ain't the sin.
A lion going to kill every day to eat.
Murder.
He's committing murder.
He's walking up on a deer or a goddamn pig.
He's sticking his teeth in the neck.
He's making sure he's dead before he even eat it.
Because lions don't even like to eat food alive.
So they're going to kill your ass first, then eat you.
Right?
Yeah.
But we don't even question if animals can commit sins.
We only apply that shit to him.
Humans.
Yeah.
Just real shit, bro.
No, you're right.
Real shit.
What you're reading?
I told you on the old schwa.
That, man.
It's just always been a thought in my head, bro.
You can, I call my mama right now, nigger.
We had this conversation in the kitchen.
And she was like, I never thought about it like that.
I'm like, shit.
That's how I think.
I believe in cause and effect.
I believe, if a bullet hit me a certain way, I would die.
Let me ask you something.
Okay, that's cool.
You know, how many,
how many niggas around y'all that want to be rappers?
Nobody.
Nobody?
Let me think.
No, nigger, co.
I'm trying to think.
That's Measy's voice.
I can hear it.
No, no, it's a difference between wanting to be a rapper and rap because savage rap.
No, I'm talking about before then.
It wasn't no hell of niggas, bro.
Meza was a rapper.
Shit.
He ain't want to be no rapper.
No, I'm just saying, like, basically, you was the less one out of the crew that niggas would
thought would be 21 Savage.
I wouldn't say I was the less, but I would say, God, damn, I was one of the few that tried it.
No, I'm just saying, but who would think, you think they would think that you would
be here now.
Shit, when we was on the phone last night, Harold, them were saying that shit.
Like after you started, basically.
No, like, they were saying, like, they were saying that Johnny, my best friend who got
killed, they were saying that while he was alive, they had a conversation about me rapping.
And he was saying I needed a rap.
But I never knew that.
Because got down, he used to say my shit was hard and shit, but we just went overly like,
shit, I, we're going to put a plan together, we're from to drop a mixtape, we, we, we
was just, nigga, too hot, stay on Pinedale, on G Block.
So he had a little studio in his room and shit.
A nigga pay him.
He'll give a nigga a beat and record a nigga a song.
Niggas just used to do that in their free time.
So you don't want to feel as if those, you special, basically.
Yeah, I don't really believe.
I believe I just did something, bro.
You was in America with no nothing.
Your whole first getting of your room was in a whole other nigga name.
You can even do nothing.
But what make it, but.
That's some special shit, huh?
But the only thing that make it special is success, though.
And Nick, that's the only time niggas call something special when it's success.
Nah, it takes a special knee to record itself.
All right.
But if I would have never, you know how many niggas in the street right now?
In America, that's immigrants that record their self.
Nigger wouldn't call that shit special.
It's only the success that's making you call it special.
I feel like it's causing effect.
I felt like I got down, went through some shit, got down, made some songs.
Put them out. People liked them.
Put out some more. Put out some more songs. People kept liking them.
I got bigger and bigger.
I don't look at it like, oh, boy, you got damn God said, you're going to be a rapper.
I don't look at it like that.
That's just my opinion on me.
I don't look at it like.
You don't think that that was like in your, that was your path.
You don't think like that was your path.
That was just something you tried in your work.
That's what you're saying.
Nickers only say path when you do it.
Niggas don't question what the nigger path was if a nigger die.
Like if I were to die that night, right?
Nigger wouldn't be saying,
Man, a little man could have been the biggest rapper ever, bro.
Ooh, nigger wouldn't be saying that.
That's why I'm saying, it's only the success.
So because this path brought me to success,
niggas think this is what I was supposed to do.
I don't know if this is what I was supposed to do,
but I did it and it worked.
So maybe it was what I was supposed to do.
I don't know.
But I just don't look at shit as deep as other people because I feel like people only look as deep into shit because we have brains and our brains are very like, what's the word, like complicated and complex.
So we think different than animals, so they say from what we know.
So we put way more thought into shit and everything got to be a miracle.
And I don't like miracle-ass shit.
So it'd be like, when niggas say that old like, right?
Bro, you one of a kind, you're another interview that was saying, you were an anomaly and woo-woo.
That's only because I'm successful, nigger.
If I didn't make it, nigga, we wouldn't even be talking.
Yep.
Yeah.
It's a lot of niggas who got my sane story, bro.
That's a lot of niggas who got a partner, Crucial.
He watched Larry.
He watched my partner and my partner, Mama, die together, and he got shot.
Damn.
Nigget on walking him special.
He survived.
He was in the hospital for a year.
That's special.
But I'm saying as a general, that's not like...
Yo, at some point, Savage's got to make an album called Survivor's Reborn.
This has always been a big theme.
Like, him and his man's got shot.
His man's died, he lived.
Yeah, hustling, motherfucker.
He's still never been able to explain it, like, in a way that you could tell, like, he's always like, damn, why am I still here?
He's trying to find the purpose.
Of the fame, the success, all the shit the nigger than did, that's what make it special to people.
And that's the only part that I disagree with.
Because, like, nigger, if it's special, anything special, just...
Actually, I'm going to text him to that.
Next album, got to be called Survivor's.
Say, my alkylase and what I've done,
don't make that be the reason why you calling me special.
No, but it takes a special kind of nigger
to even keep going through all the shit
that a nigger is going through.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, I'm going to keep 100.
Like, I wouldn't have been in the motherfuck
in a white van, and I'm an immigrant,
ride all the way to California.
That's some special shit.
Nigger, I'll stay on Glenwood trapping.
If they paying you?
But it's been times y'all went out there
and it caused more than you're paying you, right?
Hell it been.
I ain't never did.
in my business that way.
Me.
Talk to him,
me.
You might have
technically made some money,
but we,
you know.
We ain't make nothing like that.
But,
nigga,
I ain't leave that
my fuck going negative
in the negative.
Yeah,
nah.
I ain't did that ever.
Yeah, that's true.
Even the first time.
The most I do is
we break even.
Yeah.
But,
I ain't coming out my pocket.
But breaking even
at the same thing.
No, it ain't.
Because it's work still.
It's still I'm putting in the work.
I'm going to put in the work.
Long as I don't got to lose
no money to go
put in the work.
I do the work.
So y'all didn't do no free shows in the game?
Free?
If they were, that was in Atlanta.
Yeah.
I didn't have to go nowhere.
That's a fact.
No, I ain't never did no free shows.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did.
I did.
Like a little A3Cs and little shit like that, yeah, for sure.
What's that other shit called?
Side by Side West.
Side by Southwest, shit like that.
But I still had one show that was paid.
That paid for the Airbnb and the travel and all that.
So.
Who, who, you?
Who you draw, it's a inspiration from when you was younger?
Like, what kind of music and shit?
Like rap, R&B, dance hard, but like reggae dance hard.
That's probably it.
Who that nigga, though?
To me, like growing up.
Guwa.
What made goo-wah didn't he?
Just east side, just...
By the way, chat, vibes cartel people reached out to me.
I'm like the bridge.
Listen, I never calling...
You know I never call him favorites or all.
I'm trying to get Savage to do a song with cartel.
Don't tell the Cartel fans.
But Savage is down with it, but I'm just trying to like,
I really just want to get them on the line, but I asked for some songs,
and I'm gonna try to get Savage on a song with Vibb's Cartel.
You know, Vibb's Cartel.
You know what I mean?
And Savage is actually love Vibb's Gets.
Vibb's one of his go too.
We won't know him, my fuck, we'll be like,
damn, I think he did his way, but then when you meet him,
you'd be like, yeah, that's who I thought he would be.
And vice versa.
A nigga, you thought he was this, but then you met him.
He's like, this nigga ain't that.
Probably got down.
Did I miss him?
Jay-Z.
He was like what I thought he would be.
Gucci.
T.I.
Man, all of them niggas, really, right?
For real.
Like, chains.
You saying they thought, they was exactly who you thought they would be?
Yeah.
Pluto.
Pluto ain't really used to talk, though, at first.
Like, when I used to come around.
He'll be in the studio with his ass, he'll just got down.
I'll be standing there, rolling the blind or something,
just hit the beach the whole time.
He'd be like, what's up, bro?
Don't say nothing there.
I used to be like, by that, damn, that nigh,
that nigger got down.
Superstar.
Got down.
Who else?
But that's still, kind of.
See, Flut don't know what to do back there.
See, you do it that.
When you leave, you don't know how to feel like, man, this nigga, man, this nigger.
He only loved a nigga.
He's not he fucked with that nigga.
No, but I'm saying that still something that stuck with you.
Yeah.
It's some shit you have to do as an artist.
Not on purpose, it's that shit.
That's my oral shit.
I don't, I'm big.
So the nigga Lee, you're gonna tell that story to who you want me.
Like, you see that that niggas just playing beats and shit,
all in the game up, but you did what I'm saying?
Yeah.
What about?
I don't think I'm like that though.
I think I'm regular.
Like, and when a nigger come around me like, like,
y'all ain't have a niggas around like that.
Niggas do be around me.
Like who?
Everybody.
Herd be around me all the time.
Herb be a man, though.
I'm like a new artist.
A new artist.
Nardo.
Nardo than been around me, and I'd be regular.
You know what I'm saying?
How did you, how did you,
because I was watching the other night
I was watching the Brepper Club,
it was like producers and shit
would fuck with you harder than the artist.
The artists were acting like Diva.
Yeah.
So how did you?
I said on Breakfast Club.
I think it was, bro.
Like, when your first interview was...
I probably just on some...
I'm gonna say...
You know that.
They're what I was saying?
Like, how...
Because niggas was fucking with me a little bit.
You just put the friend down.
Like, y'all didn't...
That's how social.
Pull it.
Oh, God.
You're gonna be yanking it.
Oh, God.
Hey, but how do you not...
Not be the person that you would describe him,
but still remain,
keep your superstar.
status, you know what I'm saying? Like, how do you not, got down, be a diva, but at the same
time, fuck with niggas, but I can't really fuck with niggas. Like, how you balance this shit?
Don't be seen.
Nigger don't see me, a nigga, can't say shit. You can't say nothing good or that bad. You
ain't never seen me. Yeah. Yeah, that'd the way.
Because I don't, I fought with sarned little y'all niggas, but it'd be, like,
too much going on to as, like, if I feel.
What happened to Nardo?
This nigga might feel away.
You know what I'm saying?
So now as I'm in my 30s, you're staying in the house or go to my studio, I don't really
mix and mingle too much.
But I overly fuck with niggas.
But this one niggas don't understand too.
I'd be trying to tell a lot of niggas this shit too, like younger rappers and shit.
Like everything, like it's a moment for everything.
So you might feel like it's time for me.
to get on your song.
But I want this song to do as much as it can do for you.
And I want this motherfucker to be as hard as it can be too.
Because you're going to water my brain down if I'm just on every nigga,
young nigga song type shit.
So I be trying to wait till the niggas had that moment to do certain shit, unless you want
of mine.
Could you understand that back then, though?
Like, if a nigger would have told you that, could you understand that?
Like, bro, you ain't time yet, bro, and then you got down.
And you knowing your shit hot, you bubbling in the streets or whatever, could you
But you understand that?
Yeah.
If a nigger broke it down to me like that, yeah.
You're going to talk about thugs, yeah?
A nigger just ignoring me not telling me shit.
I probably felt some type of way.
But when I blew up, it was the game was still different though.
What you mean?
Like, you gotta think about it, bro.
Rap ain't even producing as many stars as it used to.
Right.
Like when I came out, think about all the niggas that came out around me and after me.
Just think about my freshman cover.
You got me on that.
on the L'OZi
Kodat
G Herbo
Kodat
A. Boogie
Got down
Anderson Pack
Anderson Pack
Um
Um
Yeah Yadi
Got down
I said Yacht
Well if I didn't
Yadi
Um
The other nigga man
Denzel Curry
Got down
Little Dickey
Um
The Nicky
Um the nigga Dave East
You get what I'm saying
That's 10 niggas
That's still relevant right now
Whoa whoa hold on
That's Kat.
Davies is on a podcast with Mano, like talking about relish.
Baby, gunna, got down.
Who else came out around that time?
Wait, let me go back.
What he said?
Got down.
After me, just in Atlanta.
Got down around my time.
You had nudie.
Got down.
Baby.
Popping.
Gunna.
Got down.
Who else came out around that time?
Who else just came?
Just fuck Atlanta, just period.
Like, artists that came.
out back then that that got down went out of way up. Playboy Cardi.
All type of niggins.
I'm saying like saying she with Kodak, YV and all of them.
Young boy.
Like dirt, you get what I'm saying?
So it was different back then.
So got down, the path wasn't the same path what it is.
Now, a nigger blowing up is a nigga getting to got down 60,000 a show.
Like that's the definition of what's hot because the barding got lower.
So got down back when I was coming up,
up, you gotta thank goddamn, nigga, my 2015, I dropped all my mixtakes and shit.
Red art start going up.
In 2016, I do goddamn Savage Mode.
The only nigga that was on Savage Mode was Pluto and Metro produced.
There's me and Metro shit.
No, I knew they weren't on.
The only feature was, Newty wasn't even trying to rap for it.
Okay.
So, Goddown, the only feature was Got Down Future.
So by the time I'm rubbing hands with these niggas, I'm already the hottest nigger in Atlanta.
Yeah.
You get what I'm saying?
Now a nigger would drop a song and it'll go up and then got down.
Six months later, this nigga still got the same amount of followers.
Yeah.
No, real shit.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's like, nobody's just blowing up to where the last nigger, the last few niggas who
I feel like just blew up with like.
Who?
Who?
Like, blew up all the way.
Baby?
Baby. Big X and, um,
Big X.
Ride wave.
Ride wave.
Push-aisty.
God damn.
Damn, that is fucked up.
I don't want to leave nobody.
The girls.
The girls.
The girls.
But it's like, the girls go out.
Right.
But it's like, it's not like how it was back then.
So back then, like, a nigga, basically what I'm saying is a nigga to my level of
hotness, that's, you know that's going to be something.
Yeah.
Because it wasn't like that little weird middle part back then.
Yeah.
It was either your ass was on the way to be a star or your ass wasn't for anything.
Now it's like, nigger got down be like 40% a star.
But everybody in the club singing your song.
But you ain't, you can't even really sell tickets to no show or nothing.
Yeah, I'm gonna pause it when I'm chiming in.
You know who fits that example and who I should have gave rookie the year?
Remember when we did our list?
I gave it to Big X the plug.
But really I should have gave it to Hurricane Wisdom.
Like Hurricane Wisdom, he should have been like the rookie at a year.
But he's at that level that Savage's.
talking about that weird kind of level where
is he going to be a star
or he just had like three, four hot songs
for the year and next year we don't hear about it.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what he's talking about.
He's saying now it was a one or zero.
It was like an analog type of situation.
Are you on or are you not on?
These days you have these like 40%
where it's like it looked like you could be on.
So now that's kind of different, in my opinion.
What you think?
What do you think?
What do you think? Fuck that up.
Just saturation.
It's time.
I think time changed everything.
People be always to be looking for an explanation,
but really time be the explanation for a lot of shit.
It's just time.
Shit change over time.
It don't even be like a main thing.
It's just, nigger, shit change over time.
But what do you think, like, rap going?
They're saying that shit about over with.
It's over with a certain nigga ass.
I don't think it's over going to ever be over with.
Like, why niggas ain't on it, they said,
nobody ain't been on a billboard all year?
This month or something.
Tell the truth, Savage.
Kendrick fucked it up.
On what billboard?
The top one?
What is it?
Hot 100.
Ain't no rap song been on the hot 100.
In the top 20?
In the top?
I bet you when this shit come out something on the top 20.
I'll just say it, but she, that won.
And I hit I got to pause it again, but y'all said pause it from a chime in.
They all miss nothing?
He, I think I, well, I've talked to him privately too.
Like, to flush that out,
niggas haven't dropped.
That's one of the things.
Niggas haven't dropped.
Why not how many artists?
The big artist.
Ain't nobody really dropping, though.
Ain't no big artists really dropping.
Fucking said the same thing I just said.
But why I take the big artist?
But I'd be feeling like that shit like that be little narratives and internet shit.
It's like, who gives a fuck, though?
It's probably a rap song that's number 21 or 22.
But it's never happened before, since hip hop been around, though.
So that's something to look at
Kendra killed it
Since 1990
That's something to look at
That's almost 30
What it is?
1995 years
That's a long
A-d-time
Almost 30s a year
Diggas shit ain't hot
Do people even care about music
anymore?
Yeah, motherfuckers care
That shit
But I feel like
Come and go so fast
I feel like it's oversaturated
It's like
It's like
niggas, there's too much shit
come out, bro. It's like, if it was spaced out,
like, all the fans would be focused on this.
Then, a couple weeks
go back, okay, all the fans focused on this
and they will reflect.
I think we're fucking up, all of them. I just
disagree. I think music is background noise, though.
It's background for other type of content.
Like, people aren't looking at rappers
like that anymore.
Sorry.
And little cliques, like,
we ain't fucking with him. We ain't fucking.
That's the bitch's shit ever to me.
Bank, you know you're
calling out the Atlanta clip, right?
The cool crew.
I keep calling the cool crew.
Savage and that's, you know, that's my friend.
But he's in a cool crew.
Him, baby, thug.
Like, they're the cool crew.
Right?
First it was rocking with dirt.
Dirt kind of locked up now.
They could gun out the cool crew.
Like, the cool crew's going through some changes.
You know what I'm saying?
Then Wham, not picking up the phone for the other nigger.
You know what?
have an emergency meeting.
But the clicking up shit, Atlanta started that.
Atlanta started that.
My best.
Sorry, Jay.
Why?
It just bit shit to me.
I don't like that.
Like, why would you tell a nigga, if I don't like a nigga, I just don't like him.
Unless he's, like, how, how the niggas is.
Like, this is my brother.
I don't like him like that.
Now, if I don't like a nigga because of nane, why the fuck I'm in there?
Put, that.
That's some shit.
Yeah, I don't do that.
go on a lot though.
I don't be seeing that.
Man, yes you do.
Well, a nigger just don't like a nigger for nothing and just like, hey, no of y'all.
And none of y'all don't fuck with him because I don't like it.
It really be for nothing.
Because when you ask a nigger where the-
Yo, Big Bang trying to make a gunner argument.
Yo, Big Bang, you gotta come straight, bro.
You just bring it up.
Yo, why all y'all y'all think is hating on gunner, man?
Before you were like, nigger, make up something.
Give me an example of who you seen.
Gunna.
Gunna.
You know I ain't been to say that on me.
Gunna.
Gunna!
Just say it.
I told you plenty times.
Gunna!
I'm just saying, no-
I don't do that, though.
I'm just saying, but you'll stop fucking with a-k-a-k.
I can call you right in the night like, sir, I ain't fucking such a-so.
You won't even add no question.
That's how it's supposed to be.
No, it ain't.
You're going to ask-
I'm definitely going to ask you what's going on, I ain't.
But if I lie.
But I ain't going to ask you because you're not going to call me and say no shit like that
unless some, it's a nigger that ain't supposed to do.
But I could be hate him.
I could wake up a hater.
You don't never know.
I could wake up a hate him.
And I'm going to be like, bang, what the hell going on?
What happened?
And you're going to be like, ooh, I'm like, man, y'all at hang, nigg.
Fuck that nigga, though.
But you hang.
Exactly.
But I'm a type of nigger say that, though.
Like, I don't just don't like this nigga.
And I know I'm traveling in a lot here.
I'll say this about Savage.
I don't think he's a dick rotter because Savage will tell you, even if he's your friend.
He was like, man, that shit was lame.
Like, whatever you said, that was lame.
I fought with you, but that was lame.
And that's at least not a dickrider.
The dick rotters like, all right, whatever you say, nigga, like, yo, you know, you're my...
Nah, he gonna be like, man, that was some lame shit you did, but...
Fuck it, like, it is what it is.
You know what I mean?
Like, he'll do that.
Like, he'll do it on both sides.
Like, man, yeah, that nigga did some lame shit, but, nigga, you shouldn't respond it like this.
Like, that tells me he's not dickrider.
Y'all let me know.
He did nander me I just don't like him.
Fuck him.
I would rather give you that than come tell you alive, bro.
The nigga told me a little ho.
A nigga had that said some this shit to my little ho.
You know how a nigga do?
Oh, God.
Nick, I ain't got a little ho.
This is how I'm a little ho.
This is a little ho.
This is a little ho.
Ain't got nothing to do with that.
You know what I said?
Yeah.
I don't be doing that tight shit, though.
I'm defensive.
Nick Alway is doing some suck of shit to me.
No.
Who?
A lot of niggas.
A lot of niggas, bro.
When?
You ain't going to see it because you don't be on the internet.
You don't be peeing on.
That shit don't count.
There's not anybody didn't any of you.
They said,
on the internet, ain't nobody did that to you.
That's talk.
Yeah, but I'm saying, you still, that's suck of shit.
That shit that it made me be like, fuck you.
But I still ain't from the car on a nigga and be like,
hey, don't fuck with that, nigga.
Oh, we ain't fucking.
They're like the lunchroom and the girls sitting over here.
Like, we ain't, we mad at her.
That's pussy shit to me.
Yeah, I don't do that.
I don't like that.
I don't like that.
Because when they come back around,
this is the funny part about this interview.
Don't mention a behavior that
We clearly know what's going on in Atlanta without calling out who's doing it.
So who's doing it then?
Who's making the calls to say, we're not, hey, hey, hey, we're all not fucking with that guy.
Call the person out.
I feel like they're kind of skirting around the bush because there's somebody doing this.
These niggins ain't really mean.
Now you're looking like a pussy.
Yeah, they back cool.
You know what I'm saying?
It is what it is.
Like, I don't have been a victim of my boys don't.
fuck with these niggas so I can't even know I like these niggum yeah you know what
saying like I don't been a victim of that bro I don't like that like now I can't have such
such such on my podcast because little one and little man and probably they don't call me like
she bro you fuck this nigga I'm like bro the nigga can make some content or something what y'all
want me to do man yeah but what I'm gonna say what don't I have to say fuck him that's
fucked up bro but niggins nigger ain't never's just overly
like bang fuck that nigga no don't do that.
No, I don't do that.
Huh?
I'll give you my opinion, nigger.
And then I'll be like, but shit, you gotta do what you gotta do though, bitch.
You, shit, that you chose this lane.
That's what I tell you.
I might be like, I feel like you a bitch.
But then call me the next day like,
bro, you ain't go hard on the dick, you for the,
man, how the hell of y'all, y'n' ain't gonna' hell no guess.
Because then when the nigger see it, nigger, be like,
this shit really hard too, though.
They're a little bitch I have a nigga.
Yo, that's definitely savage.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, no.
But I just think the people at the top,
it ain't by five or six of y'all at the top
from the city
need to figure out ways
for it to trickle down, man.
Like it has to be rewritten
from the rap to the streets.
All this shit got to be rewritten on West Cool West Lane.
And niggas stand on that.
If a nigger don't, everybody's doing whatever they want to do.
You don't ever be thinking about this shit you'd be saying some of time?
Yes.
You're saying five or six niggas.
What I'm saying is...
With egos, money, bitches, come together and agree on something.
And it trickle down.
It will.
This one's what I don't like, too.
Niggers be acting like Atlanta just always been like this.
That shit be kept.
Oh, yeah, 100%.
But niggas knew how they keep that shit looking like it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm in, even if I'm into it with one of my niggas, right?
The ultimate thing you can do is vocalize.
Like that makes you a ho.
Right.
Like we can be beefing fuck you, nigger, fuck you when the camera come on.
I love, bro.
Yeah.
Like don't never let the people know that, that came out, my grandma's how.
Don't tell them about what's going on my house.
So when the niggins started doing that, you're saying fuck me, right?
Oh, God.
You doing that, you're saying fuck me.
So I think that's what they are.
I think that's what they're, I think, niggas can get right.
But what you mean when you say these the rules, what you mean when you say that?
I'm saying like this is what we're not doing.
This is what we're not pushing on the people.
This is what we're standing on.
What though?
I don't know.
Are you saying niggas just need to figure that out?
Yeah, now you say it like, just say things we say.
A code.
Alright, bro.
We're gonna let these niggins know anything done to a pedestrian is off linen.
That's why.
Yeah, that's some suck.
We don't do shit to pedestrians.
Right.
That's just what it is.
Right.
Respect women, kids and all that.
Put that in the mix.
Right.
You know what I'm talking about like the real true shit
Right
Like all the bullshit like niggas get your man
Your nigga do something you
Get your man rap about them
What the fuck you want to do about regular people
But don't go shooting in no crowd
Shit like that right
That's what fucked up
And that's what started bringing all the bullshit
Bank
Listen there's nobody who's rapping
Who says kill civilians
Except Chicago niggas
Like Chicago niggas was like
I'll catch you and your baby
Or you and your mama
Right
Besides that
everybody has these understandings.
What he's trying to skirt around is this topic of,
yo,
we need to be very clear on what snitching is.
This only,
that people are only fractured on a snitching conversations.
You know what I mean?
This ain't the wire.
Niggas ain't like, yo.
Remember, if you ever watch a wire,
niggas was like,
yo,
yo,
yo, you shoot at somebody on a church Sunday?
Like, yo, bro, that's, that's off limits.
And some people like,
yo, I thought you said get the man by any means,
necessary. Okay, they have a disagreement.
No, no, no. Nobody
have those type of disagreements, quote,
street shit, right?
The only disagreement is
who could snitch, what
is snitching, and who gets a pass
and who doesn't?
Shit, bro. To where the folk can respect, I know
a long time ago, the police came up on the cone, right?
They were like, bro, they pulled
it all the two sides, look, man.
Oh, he's turning...
We ain't tripping, man, long as y'all don't be up here.
Shoot nobody, call nobody. Y'all can see
what the fuck y'all want to say. Just don't...
Don't do no violence.
So after that, we start, hey, we're whipping niggas ad.
Don't shoot nobody up in on there because you're going to get into it all of us.
Fucking up the money.
Right.
That's what's going on.
Niggas is fucking up the money in the music because everybody wants to smack some.
Ain't nobody doing anything, though.
They done it all.
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
They don't need to do no more, man.
I don't, I don't even think a nigger.
Yeah, nigger need to just leave that alone.
Like, fuck got down.
Hey, we ain't doing nothing to pedestrian.
We ain't doing nothing to nobody.
Take that part out of it.
Sometimes you got to do something.
That's what fucking up the streets.
What is?
Just the bang bang shit.
But some shit is sanctioned, bro.
Like, nigger do the wrong shit.
I'm just being real, though.
Like, if somebody's breaking your house
or why your kid would have something,
something got to happen about it.
Yeah.
Like, ain't nothing else.
Something has to happen about that.
Like, I don't know who, I don't know what to do, but something.
Yeah.
We need to be able to police our own communities, man.
I get what you said.
That's another thing that I be fucking, that I'd be thinking about too.
I'd be like, damn, why nigger, why when niggas talk about snitching, they act like it only applied to the streets?
I ain't never seen no police officers testify on no police officers.
They got cold.
they're supposed to be the ultimate opposite of the streets though
and they stand on the same principle
nigger if if if if me and my
got down what they call that shit my partner
patrolling
and got down my partner jump out the car
and chase a nigga and a nigga got damn got a phone
and he got down
pulling his phone out and my partner kill him
boy that his partner gonna say
I thought I saw a gun too
even if he
If he didn't, even if he knowing his heart, he didn't see no gun.
That's true.
True.
But a nigga act like snitching is just this oxymoron from the streets.
But niggas been getting told this shit, the police stand on it.
Everybody that worked for goddamn law enforcement stand on it.
They don't snitch on each other.
I agree.
And goddamn, your mama been telling you, don't come back and tell me what your little sister did.
I'm gonna whip your ass.
I agree.
So this shit drilled in the nigger head.
But niggas act like this just some oxymoron street shit.
No, but you got some people that's...
Now, again, I feel like me chiming in, and body, I pause it, so you're not missing anything.
Me chombing in is, like, what I was saying in an interview,
the reason why people care about snitching and people are making this big issue,
especially when it comes to street stuff, is that I think rappers now look at fans
or people not involved in the situation to uphold the code.
So you've never heard the cartel say,
man, this niggis snitched on El Chapo.
Could y'all not, like, buy his product no more?
No, they kill him.
They go handle their own business.
You know why police officers don't tell on other police officers?
Because nobody wants to be a partner and nobody's getting you back if you're still in the police force.
They don't look at the civilians like, hey, don't get arrested by this guy.
No, they handle their business.
The only way you police snitching is if the people who care about snitching police it.
The problem is these rappers, they like to say your stuff.
snitching, but they hope the fans stop supporting you, especially if they're speaking about another
rapper who snitch.
So wait, you ain't fit to do nothing.
You're going to be in the club with the snitch.
You'll be on a song with the snitch.
You'll be on clubhouse with the snitch.
You'll do everything with the snitch.
But the fans that have no stake in the game needs to stop supporting the snitch and make the snitch not
be relevant anymore that they could feel some consequence.
No.
in every other entity where snitching exists
nigger if you feel somebody breaks a code that was shared
you need to go handle that otherwise it ain't no code
the cartel don't ask yo
the cartel don't go to the police and be like man
because you get this nigga out of here because he snitch on it
no niggas get killed the police if one of them
cooperates with internal affairs or something like that
yo we good off that nigga he got to get out of here
We're not fucking with him.
Point blank, period.
And most of these officers, when they're going to deadly situation,
you got to make sure your partner is going to, you know what I mean?
Yo, he's going to get your six.
He's going to get you, you know what I mean, going to get your back.
In hip hop, a nigger rat, allegedly, and they want fans to slide.
We're not sliding for y'all.
You slide.
If y'all think gunners is a snitch, well, y'all do something to that nigger.
Or by collecting.
voice make it abundantly clear and try to affect his brand, which I don't think that's even
possible anymore. If y'all can't do anything to affect the snitches, whether in action or in
narrative, that means that the idea of not snitching, at least in hip-hop, is a moot point.
There is no consequence.
That raised, they hear the tale.
Yeah, of course.
Them the niggas who don't got in the streets and got the money before the real.
See, what happened was, they let the whole niggas get the money first, bro.
I'm just being 100, bro.
They did.
They let them get the money first because them niggas was more focused enough
to get the money, getting the position, getting the office,
get the hiring people and all that shit.
So now you got street niggas that coming in this shit
that knowing like I don't really fit in with that.
So I'm just going to be humble and let me talk or let evidence talk.
I'm going to let these people talk because I don't know,
one way. You know what I'm saying?
You can't tell me not to peep.
Whole shit. Like if I come in the office
and the motherfucker's saying some shit, they just
some whole shit.
So, so, so you feel like
nobody who snitched was
a street nigger and was raised not to tell.
I feel like every nigga
who have told they've been with tell.
I don't feel like no nigga got tricked
or none of that.
It don't matter if a nigga would tell, if they would tell,
if they would tell, I'm saying, you're saying it's people that's raised to tell.
I'm saying, I'm saying them type people who raised the tail, of course you have the exception,
but most of them, they a ass go do, like, be doctors or they work in the office somewhere or
not really, bro, because you got-
If you grew up in the hood, your mama used to whip your ass when you told on your brother or your
sister.
Not all to them.
How many of y'all used to get a whipping for telling on y'all's siblings?
Get told, not even the whipping, just get told, don't tell on your brother.
Don't be no tatt-to-tell.
That's majority of the room, bro.
This is majority of our people though.
All these people are from different walks of life, brother.
She does audio, he works the camera, he's my manager.
I don't know what she do, I don't know what she do, she's in A&R.
What I'm saying is...
He worked audio.
But I can't be around our A-Cam.
Jack, nil!
I'm saying, everybody that hang around each other is the same people.
No, no, no, no, no.
These are all people from different walks of life, bro.
Some of these people went to college.
You're right about that.
And all of them are black, and they all was told.
But when hell niggas listen to Mama?
I listened to my mama.
Okay, that's why you did.
Until I got to the age where I could buck.
You used to listen to your mama too,
till you got to that age where you asked a buck.
Yeah, but I'm saying, so a lot of shit,
you didn't take everything that your mama told.
You didn't believe that you was chosen when you told you.
You said everything has caused and a fact.
Right.
So another motherfucker could be like, my mom don't know what she's talking about, I'm on tell.
I'm not saying.
I'm not saying, I'm not saying that ain't the case, bro.
I ain't saying that it's the case.
I'm just saying, bro, I just have a different outlook on life than most niggas, I think, that come from my walk of life.
So goddamn, all I'm saying is, okay, police have a goddamn, a code that they follow about, right?
Like if your ass tell on your officer, when you walk back in that goddamn the station,
all the police is going to be looking at your ass like rat-eyed nigger.
Oh, to the max.
Get what I'm saying?
And they're not street.
It's just betrayal.
That's how they look at it.
Like you betrayed the badge.
I agree.
All right, cool.
Just like I have a different outlook on prosecutors and goddamn people who, that type of shit.
Like them ladies who is in third trial, I feel like they're doing the job.
And their job is to sell this shit.
I don't feel like it's emotionally attached.
Like, I want to see this nigga.
go to jail for the rest of the day. It's like, my job is to sell my theory. I have to sell my theory to the jury and win the case. So I'm doing this as hard as I can to make these folks think what I'm saying is true. You get what I'm saying? So goddamn. What I'm saying is people now, well, the internet has made it like, oh, snitching is just this dumbass rule that street niggas made up because they are streetnickers is just stupid. Oh, that's what you're saying? But police uphold the same rule.
No, everyone. Politician everybody. You remember what Trump said? That man, nigger, right, man.
That's my point.
Yeah, no, for sure.
But the internet making it seem like,
who the hell even invented snitching?
Them niggas dumb.
That shit stupid.
No, it's just, you can't be a nigger
that's upholding something and then don't stand on it.
That's how I look at it.
Talk it, back!
They would never tell,
shit, I can't be mad at you for telling it.
Right.
But if you, one of them niggas who say this one.
No, that's not what they're saying.
They saying snitching is, the rule of snitching is stupid.
Who's saying that?
That whole internet, bro.
That's the narrative now.
That's the general narrative.
No, no, no, no, no.
The narrative is that if some people could snitch and it's cool,
why the fuck would you be the dumbass that don't snitch and get fried?
Just to be cool.
If some people could snitch and it's acceptable
and they don't do no time or they don't have to go away,
why would you be the dummy who doesn't snitch and gets fried?
Oh like basically like why do we care?
Street niggas are stupid.
Why do niggas care about the streets?
By the way, uh, um, NHK, um, odd bugs.
He said, Savage is trying to argue that it doesn't exist.
What?
All right, hold on, I'm gonna pull the donations.
Why do people care that a niggas is snitching?
I'm kinda with them on that.
Why, though?
If we just, we just, we just-
Because it's fucked up.
But we just agreed that police and all type of other people think the same thing about this same rule.
No, no, I get, you're right.
One hundred percent, you're right.
And, and if there was three, four years ago, I probably wouldn't agree with that.
But right now, looking at the streets for what it is, all this shit fake.
Not just snitching, everything fake.
What you mean?
Everything fake when niggas is breaking in their partner hall, fucking their bitches, fucking their partner bitches.
All that shit is bullshit, bro.
Like, we didn't do that.
Like, I don't want you on your side bitch, bro.
I don't even want to bitch, you don't fuck.
Because I know my niggas.
I don't want to fuck by how your nash dad, bro.
But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, bus is that in.
Huh?
Tell them.
No, I get it.
But you got niggas.
If you signed up for the streets.
But this ain't the same streets that they signed up for.
It is.
They ain't signed up for the streets you signed up for.
All right.
That shit still look the same, bro.
Tell you, they niggas ain't signed up for the same,
these niggas is coming back today to court in the hole that's ain't like, bro.
You know what you gotta do?
Niggas in jail telling you to tell.
I don't know about that.
Bro, they is, bro.
I don't know.
Man, work your one.
I don't worry about that.
I don't know about that.
I don't know about that.
I ain't never heard it.
I can't say yes or no.
I ain't saying it don't exist.
I'm just saying I never heard that one.
Oh, okay, okay.
And I don't, we ain't gonna make this out of a shit.
All I know, niggins.
How y'all come up with it?
This ain't really telling.
Like, what's really telling?
Oh, bank.
Yo, let me tell this.
And I hate to pause again.
I know.
By the way, NHK, odd bucks,
35.
It says Savage is trying to argue a code that doesn't exist.
His way of thinking is basically,
is basically you do life.
Just snitch, stupid shit.
Okay.
Yo, Bank.
Me, you know, you know,
who put me on the phone with Bank, it was Charleston White.
And I do have a lot of appreciation for Bank because he's the only journalist or the only,
like, you know, there's these street nigger, like, podcasters kind of coming up.
But he's holding it down for Atlanta.
And really, I think the South, but he's down to ask the real question.
The other nigga, what's that nigga name?
There's another nigga, like, he did an interview with thug.
He's a complete dick suck.
Like, the guy who always hitting on me, but he's a dick sucker.
Bank going to ask the real questions, and that's why I like him.
Even though he's not going to press the issue, he'll bring it up.
And he'll let you spin out of it, but he'll bring it up.
So now he's like, he's addressing the Atlanta special.
Chat, you go to Atlanta.
Atlanta is known for a few things.
Trannies, Batimans.
What else they're known for?
The Hawks and the famous saying, well, that ain't really telling.
It's a sane too much.
Atlanta niggas don't want to call niggins snitches.
They just like, that ain't really telling.
He just talk too much.
Nigger, is it telling or is it not?
It's one or zero.
It ain't point five.
I'm glad bank is bringing this up.
Look, before you say that, before you say that, right?
The Atlanta special chat, I'm telling you, you go to Atlanta.
We know Atlanta for Lennox Small, the water boys.
We know them for the Atlanta Hawks, the Falcons, and we know them for,
that ain't really telling
he's just said too much
nah nigger what the hell
if this was Chicago he told
if this was New York he told
if this was the West Coast he told
if this was Mississippi he told
if this was Missouri he told
if this was St. Louis
but Atlanta
the Atlanta special he ain't really tell
before you
before you say that
right this is what I was going to tell you
at the end of that day
when I watched training
day
when got down
Denzel found out
Jake
rat-ass
was fin of telling him
he tried to smoke Jake
facts
and they were both police officers
Yeah
Okay
What's this what you just said though
I said
When did y'all
Start gauging
Like that ain't really telling
Like
I ain't never said
That ain't really telling
I either say
It ain't telling
or it is telling
You know this is getting
to the thug conversation
Because that's the word
in Atlanta
on the thug conference.
Yo, that ain't really telling.
That's the way.
Hey, yo, I'm gonna decode this shit
because everybody like, nah, I'm gonna decode it.
The word on the thug shit
is that ain't really tell it.
Like, wait, what do you mean?
Nah, he was, I know he gave the number.
I know he did this and I know he did that,
but he was flirting.
And he, y'all get in the interrogation room
and say your man did the crime,
he got in there saying
saying Roscoe didn't do the...
What?
Because people make shit
trying to make shit so simple.
I ain't never said that I ain't really telling.
I either say it ain't telling or it is telling.
Because people make shit
trying to make shit so simple.
Like, okay, the game of basketball is
got down. You shoot it in the hoop.
You get a point. Got down.
If the other person shoot it in the hoop,
get a point. But niggas will say
if a nigger ain't nobody locked up
like, nigger just show. No
bro, no. Let me tell you.
All right, go ahead.
Bank. Look. Bank, I rock with you.
Niggas are trying to make
simplify the streets to just
if you shoot it in the
net, you get a point. If you shoot it
in the other net, they get a point.
I hate that I got to do this chat.
And I know I thought I wouldn't. But Savage
you're contradicting yourself.
About 30
seconds ago, you said it's either
telling or it's not telling.
That's basketball.
You made it or you didn't make it.
So you simplified it first.
Banks said, well, some people are saying,
it's like gray areas.
That ain't really telling.
And then you're coming back and,
you know, Savage is smart.
He knows this is getting to a thug conversation.
So he's hitting with the, you know,
he's hitting with the side swipe saying, oh, well,
yeah, nah, nah, nah, nah,
you're trying to oversimplify the streets.
Savage, you just simplified the streets.
It's either you told or you didn't.
That's what you said.
But now when they're using the phrase that's really,
they only say it about thug, that ain't really telling.
Now you're saying, ah, well, y'all trying to oversimplified.
Savage, I love you, but come on.
But they ain't bringing up, got down.
Boy, if you're standing the key, that's three seconds.
If the bar go out, that's out of bounds.
If you grab a nigga the wrong way, that's a file.
Yeah, if you take a-go-the-go.
If you got damn hang on the goal, that's interference.
You got down hanging on the rim.
If you yell at the ref, that's a tech.
Yeah.
So the streets is the same way.
It ain't just black and white, just one thing.
And every nigga know that.
And every city got.
Savage, they're going to side by side this.
You're going to look crazy because you literally said 45 seconds ago
is either you told or you didn't.
You literally said there is no kind of talent.
And you're now saying there's technical.
fouls you're saying three second violations there's all type of shit yo savage come on bro
how they look at some shit bro like some niggas look at saying a dad nigger did some shit
is telling i don't look at that like telling if i go on the move with my man and my man don't make it
boy everything in his car everything we just did he did it you still told on a dead i don't give a
fuck me neither but i'm just saying i probably do the same shit i'm right there but you still told on
a dead nigga though. So can a nigger call you a rap for that?
Didn't call what the fuck they want to call me? A nigger can
I always say anything. But you told on a dead nigga? I'm just a rap then at that point.
But you tell on a live nigga? Yeah, that's snitching. If you tell on a live
nigga, that's snitching. But see, that's gonna say it too many. I love Big Bank. Big Bank
when you see this, I love you. You know why? Big Bank is raising the questions that they claim
the nerds only think about. No, people on the internet, it's not just nerds. They use logic.
Y'all are saying it's one way.
And when they ask questions, it shows that even Big Bank, a street nigger, the godfather of ATL streets, he got the same fucking questions.
It's too many.
It's basketball.
It's too many.
It's too many.
It's multiple.
It's multiple.
It's not just simplified today.
It is, bro.
No, it is.
It is.
It is, bro.
If you go in there, top real folk without a lawyer, you told.
No, you didn't.
Yo, bank.
Bank trying to let things know.
Bank, I'm gonna pray for you.
They're gonna try to run your out of lander bank.
I know you like the OG, but what you just said,
I just want to play that one more time.
Remember, again, don't hear from me.
I'm not in the streets.
I don't give too damn.
You know what I mean?
It is, it is, bro.
If you go in there, talk real folk without a lawyer, you told.
No, you did.
All right.
No, you did.
I'm saying.
Okay, so, okay.
So let me say something.
Go ahead.
Me and you, nigger, me and you are on the move.
Me and you on the move, nigga.
Yeah.
All right.
We rob a nigga, a nigger, a nigger telling got down, man, bank, bank and savage rob me.
Those folks smashed me up.
They bring me in the room.
Yeah, we want to know that bank rob them.
Nah, hell not.
Man, bank was in the bed of sleep.
I talked to bank.
I feel you.
I told on you?
You can't.
Did I tell on you, man.
No, no.
You kind of did.
How?
What if I ain't said that?
What you mean?
What if I said I would got there at my mama house?
You told that I was in another house.
Hey, Bank, boy, I told them folks, you was at home.
already have told him you down you'll fuck the whole case so no you ain't don't say shit see oh bank
you're good bank you're good ah I like bank he's good because that's the that's the thing like
oh yo yo you can tell savage is like a w man's like he love thug so like he's using the thug
talking points you what thugs are closing arguments man when I talk to them folks I told him
you didn't do the crime y'all rats y'all be saying niggas did the crime
So he's, Savage is using the talking point and say,
imagine if I did talk to the cops and I said,
you didn't do it because you was at home.
Bank hits him with a, he hits him with a counterpunch, bang!
Saying, well, that's still telling because you may have fucked up my alibi.
You told him I was at my grandma house sleeping.
I think I told him I was at work.
Bro, I look guilty now.
You shouldn't say nothing.
You talking, giving an alibi, might have fucked up my alibi.
Your lie fucked up, my lie.
Ooh, oh, bang, you killing him right here.
Savage, I'm scoring it accurately.
Me and Savage, you won't argue about this like later on the phone watch.
Nick!
No, no, that ain't snitching.
That ain't snitching, man.
What is it there?
That ain't snitching.
That's, yo ass, talk too much trying to help me.
You was talking.
Yo, ass, talk too much.
That ain't really.
telling you. Yo, that's what I mean. Yo, bank is doing some of the, I love this type of combo.
By the way, and this is TMI. I know I'm getting a little lit too, but, you know, I want to give
insightful shit rather than we just watch. Me and Savage was talking like, actually it was like two
nice ago, or maybe last night. And he said something. I won't bring the full context,
but he said, act, why are you going to be challenging? And I say, Savage, I got a different way
of doing certain things with different people
in terms of how conversations happen.
I'll wait for,
I know how it's going to play
when people are watching this two days later on YouTube.
I'm not trying to have the shouting argument
or if somebody say something like,
yo, you do, like,
I'll let you get that in the moment
to completely make you look like a fool
to the reasonable minds
who's not going to see this emotionally later on.
Bank,
I like how he's doing it
because I ain't going to,
a lot of you right now and I know
Savage smart but he's getting the one
up on Savage right now over this Congo
I'm gonna too much trying to help
a nigga but you weren't trying to hurt a nigga man
snitching is trying to hurt a nigga
snitching is trying to get another nigga fuck
listen man snitching is trying to get another
nigga fucked up so you can be unfucked up
that's what snitching is bro I understand that
but let me ask you something right
half a point of this Savage
you did all that line for me right
the herder nigga part kind of makes sense
I'm gonna tell you
That's how they get you.
That way they say you got the right to remain side.
They tell you, okay, well, you're feeling to go jail for perjury,
because he already said this.
You're feeling to be like, oh, oh, let me tell you what hell did.
They can't take you.
That's how they used them to get, niggins.
They can't take you to jail for perjury.
Perjury is if you lie on under oath.
See, I don't know.
Yeah, come on.
What you're just saying?
With a scary, nigga.
They got a scary nigga now.
Hey, man, I don't care what you're going there and say.
As long as you don't say nothing to incriminate no, nigger.
And your intention act to get a nigga a lot of else.
But do you agree?
All right, let's move forward.
Move forward.
Do you agree?
Just ask for your lawyer.
From this point on.
Yeah.
I get what you're saying.
Just ask for your lawyer.
Just that makes it simple.
Yeah.
Now, if I'm bank, I would say, all right, with that abine,
Woody claimed that he went in there trying to say a bunch of lies and alibis to throw the cops off.
So Woody isn't a snitch.
I would have threw that question and see if I could get an affirmation.
Because you ain't got a word about it.
We ain't got a discernment.
Like diddy, diddy, did he or cussie.
We ain't got to even decipher.
Right.
The folk give you the best game in the room.
But you know, sometimes folks go in there and try and hear what they're talking about, too, though, to see what they got.
True.
So you might not even be saying nothing.
You might just be in there letting them talk.
I think that's what Thug was doing, honestly.
I didn't seem gangsters do that.
And when they, as soon as they ask them a question, I mean, I don't want to talk.
They can call my lawyer.
But you still in there with them folks without your lawyer.
You just said if a nigger going there without his lawyer.
Don't say in that.
No, nice, don't say now.
Why are you moving the goal post?
You didn't.
You didn't.
You did.
Don't go in that your lawyer.
Listen, man.
You just said some whole shit.
Listen, if y'all motherfuck ain't telling me on the way to jail,
I ain't trying to really go in no room and talk to y'all.
You don't got no choice.
You got to go in this room and they say you don't want to talk.
They bring you in the room.
They ain't telling you where you're going.
Yeah, it's in the back of the police car.
You're going to be, they're going to be playing some weird ass shit on the radio.
I always been the suspect, though.
They never really asked me shit.
Nigger, they asked the suspect shit.
I'm saying, they ain't asked me shit.
They always telling me what I did.
That's it.
How they tell you that?
Was your lawyer then when they told you that?
What you mean?
What you mean?
What you mean?
What you mean?
What you mean?
When your lawyer was at then?
Why you got my money on the way to be to come with me?
Why they were talking to you then?
When they were talking to you then?
When the folks pulled you over,
when they pulled your ass over for that damn case,
what they said, we got savage.
When you got to the thing, when they came...
When I got in the back of the cry and said,
Hey man, y'all know y'all fuck.
No, y'all know that case thrown out.
Was I telling?
Hey, man, that case thrown out, man.
This warrant ain't nothing, man.
You weren't snitching, but you was telling them that your case was told up.
You was telling them that.
No.
No, but, bro, we got to help rewrite the codes for these young niggas, bro.
Because these niggas thinking they can finesse, and then when they see their finesse go sour,
they were intentioning wasn't to tell sometimes.
But when they finesse go sour,
They feel caught up and boxed up
That's when they fall up
How many times we seen that on 40-48?
Nick going them up for the too good
We didn't lie
All I'm saying is I can't judge a nigga
Off of a finesse
I'm judging you off whether you're ass
Snitched or you didn't snitch
That's what I'm saying
Yeah
So did you go in this bitch and say
Such and Such did this to Such and Such
or Such and Such did this to Such and Such
All right, let me ask you another question
Whatever a nigger went in there and said such, such did this, but such such them didn't do it.
Is that finesse?
That's telling.
I don't see. I'm lost now.
That's telling.
You're saying, if I go in the room and they say...
Miss Lee, if you go in the room with Miss Lee, if you know goddamn court did Blase-Squoisee,
but you say, shy did it, but you know Sha got alibi by shoes at home, is that telling?
Nah.
Well, hold on.
Let me think about that.
I'm trying to process what you're saying.
I'm trying to process what you're saying.
All right.
God, damn.
Such and such did it, but I'm saying such and such did it.
But I know such and such got an alibi.
Yes.
Like a good alibi.
Yeah, like on camera at home in some apartments, we know that they're at home.
Hmm.
You said, yeah.
You know why I say it depends on how the person that I'm spinning them towards take it.
Because they hold the power.
I'm giving them the power.
Because it's snitching if the person I said did it, say it's snitching.
How can you prove that that wasn't snitching?
If court did it, but I'm saying, shy and shot say, man, Savvy told on me, how can I prove I didn't?
So it's snitching.
You can't ask me that.
But you're trying to save her.
Yeah, but it don't matter.
My opinion don't matter.
I can't determine that because my answer to your question is, it's whatever the fuck.
Shia said it is.
Yeah.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But you,
but you,
in your mind,
you would be trying to finesse.
Right.
So,
so it,
basically,
everything is subjective.
Exactly.
So we can't,
we really can't
come to terms of
what's telling them
what's not.
We can't.
And we never could.
That's why the internet
never should have been
in the business.
Don't say how we could.
The streets is too,
it's too many dynamics
to the street.
It's too many situations,
bro.
It's too many,
like,
I could be on a move
with my man
and got down my man get killed
and they could be trying to charge me with his body
so I know before we went on this move
nigga me and my man
and talked about shit like this
hey boy if I die put it on me
so so goddamn
but if a nigga seeing black and white
boy a nigga said such and such
did it that's telling
to them but you don't know the situation
so everything has its dynamics
so niggas car
dynamics moving the goalpost
it ain't moving the goal post it's just
different dynamics
But I call it moving the gold pole, not niggas.
I call it moving to gold pole.
Man, you win a lot of people, though.
I'm gonna tell you why I call it moving the gold pole.
Why?
Because if it was this nigger, he would be a rat.
Just because it's my man, I'm gonna move the gold pole.
I don't feel like that.
I do.
I do.
I don't see niggas call niggas shit for way less.
You're talking about certain people.
Yo, Big Bang is basically saying, yo, y'all call Gunner,
Woody, all these other nigginschers.
But by your own definitions, thug snitchers.
thug snitch too that's what he's trying to say he's saying it in the most polite way he's saying it in the most polite way
and i'm shocked that he's saying this because i would think the entire atlanta scared of it
scared of it and would just all be on the same brainwave not really exposing that and clearly big bank
is making it known like bro yeah thug to but you know we still like him but like he's so told
No, I'm just saying people just period.
Like, I did it.
Do you feel like I do, you think I do that?
I feel like you've done that.
Whoa.
Man, we ain't got to talk about that shit on town.
We ain't got to say names.
Yeah, I'm just like I feel like you're done that.
Well, I feel like you, you just so look at shit on the bright side.
Bank, you can't really say this, nigger, man.
Like, how are you going to say that?
Look at it like this, man.
And I be right.
I'll let you be right sometimes.
I be right.
I do be right.
I do be right.
I do be right.
I just don't be right.
I just don't be wanting to keep going back and pull.
No, no.
The only time when I point shit out to you and you do the opposite is when you already don't like a nigger anyway.
So your mind already tainted.
Whatever you seen and fuck that.
I ain't like the nigga anyway.
Yup, he did.
That's the only time to be like that.
If it's a mutual nigger where it's like I fuck with a little nigga here out of it, you'll hit me out and be like,
damn, you were all right.
Little brother didn't do that.
Yeah.
So that's you being biased, nigger.
That ain't me.
Hey, day I'm going to buy it.
Because I'm going to move to Gold Post for my nigga too, though.
I'm going to keep it real.
I'm not.
But I ain't going to move.
I'm going to move it for.
I'm in public, but I ain't gonna move for them.
I ain't moving the gold post for them.
I am.
Fuck that shit.
Niggas gonna move to my kid.
I'm gonna move for my nigga.
How?
No, you ain't.
You cap.
If one of your niggas go in there and say,
bank did this, your ass ain't moving shit.
Oh, nah.
Or they say got down.
Yeah, right.
Or they say got down,
Dad did this, Lewin did this.
You ain't, you ain't going for that.
That's something different.
I'm saying if he's telling another nigga.
I'm moving.
No, you ain't.
I ain't got no niggins in your shriek, that's why you're saying.
No, you're saying some, no, no.
I'm just trying to make a logical point, bro.
You ain't trying to make no point, man.
Nah, you just see shit right away.
You're trying to make a logical, got down.
You should see shit while.
A logical point against my point.
For sure.
That's what you're trying to do.
I suppose, you're being the devil's advocate, or whatever that call that shit.
Let me ask you something.
So it ain't telling, and that shy say it's telling.
It's whatever shy said is in that situation.
To me, it's not.
It's not telling. If I'm the person, I know for a fact Shai was at home. I know she on camera
at home and I know this a lie. To me it's not telling. It's spinning the police. But
Shai can come out and make me look like a rap.
Okay. If somebody did that to you, would you feel like they told on you by even putting
your name in them folk? Yeah.
Damn, I don't know. I probably would. Ooh, maybe that is telling. Maybe nigger she
use imaginary people when they do shit like that.
Real shit.
But it's still spilling them, right?
No, it is telling.
I'm gonna tell you why it's telling.
I'm gonna tell you why it's telling.
Yo, this thing it doesn't spun Savage all the way around.
Savage going against his own point now.
This wise telling, real shit.
Go ahead.
Okay, court did the crime.
Shy got down.
Shy was at home.
She was on camera.
She got weed.
She got fixing bricks in the house.
12 push up to get her.
She gets caught with the work.
Yeah.
I told on her.
Facts.
her in it they would never even hit her house
so that's telling
that's telling but at first you said it won
so yeah it's what I thought about it
dynamics you see how it's like basketball
yo I hate to be the person that does this
because like honestly I'm just a logic person
I don't care about the streets like in terms of
who's a rat who's not
Savage kind of just exposed the whole thing
right now remember when
Doug went in in the interrogate
room and they say yo thug said that um now thugs said that um roscow didn't do it because roscow he not
liked that um and and roscow was friends with wayne but roscow he be you know like they'd be like
how you how y'all know wayne be like oh rossco used to serve wayne do you know what rossco went to
jail for later drugs ain't that the same thing yeah even though
he did go to jail for shooting at the bus too,
but he then later served the longer bid for drugs.
So can it be understood that Doug trying to throw the cops off
by claiming that Roscoe sold drugs,
then he later go to jail for drugs?
Look, we still can find it.
It's before that.
He got caught with some other shit.
He got caught with some other shit.
Oh, drug.
Roscoe.
This is before the Rico stuff.
He had went to jail before the Rico stuff.
He was, um, he got locked up for drugs.
What did thugs say?
Yo, he, that nigga, yo, he not like that.
Shoot at a bus.
Ah, he ain't like that.
You know, he served, he just served that nigga drugs.
What do you get locked up for later?
Drugs.
Maybe the cops was always thinking he was a shooter.
not a drug dealer.
Now you go in there lying and spinning.
You told the cops that he's a guy who's responsible for drugs.
Then he gets locked up for drugs.
Who knows if your tip or you lying and spinning contributed to that.
What does that mean?
We're kind of coming back to the same thing here, right?
People.
That's like basketball.
That's a tick.
Yeah, that's a tick.
That's a tick.
Now, that's a flagrant.
That's a flavor.
What would it be?
If you could change one thing by the rap game, what would it be?
if I could change something about the rap game.
Do I give a fuck about the rap game like that?
That's the real one.
The game?
Just whatever goes on in the industry.
Oh, like.
What would I change?
I would remove a lot of ego from the game.
I feel like...
It wouldn't be nothing to do no ego.
Not zero ego.
I wouldn't make it zero ego.
But I feel like ego is the...
biggest downfall of men.
Fuck, just the route game.
Just a man.
Feel like a nigger's worst enemy is that ego.
But if you don't have ego, that means you got-
I ain't saying don't have ego at all.
But I feel like it's a balance between ego and just logics and just like, a nigger would
know.
Man, this man ain't never shot at each other.
Ain't no blood drawn between us.
We just fucked a few coming holes.
and he might like him a little more than I do.
Yeah.
And he would prevent that from us making a song that can make go diamond or some shit.
Facts.
It's just all because of ego.
Facts.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm facts.
I feel like ego than goddamn kept more great music from the game than it has received.
That's what I was speaking.
I'm glad you said that because that's what I was talking about like the little bitch table.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like it's ego that's keeping the game.
That's why the game's so separated now.
People like, bro, I was just talking my man that Lyd Nation, right?
And he was just telling me he was like, it's like, bro, we can't really do these big concerts and big tours and shit.
And then music came back and snouted it.
It's like, because niggas be like, save ends, we bought Savage for a Saturday.
And he sees, he'd be like, bro, you don't fuck them, them, nigga.
I ain't doing it if you're going to do it.
I don't do that.
I know you don't.
But I'm just saying, niggles do.
You think so?
They said it.
For real?
They say, like Coachella and all that shit,
them big-ass show, it'd be like...
I'm trying to bump into you.
It ain't even got to be like no smoke.
You just be like, all this nigga on the show with me.
Ego shit.
Yeah, I don't do that.
But only thing that I will do is goddamn.
For the people who thought I was capping,
and I, you know, I'll make sure I always research.
Just to give y'all a real quick breakdown.
Okay, okay.
remember so peevee rosco remember Doug is talking to the police about p.bri rosco shooting up
Wayne's tour bus he gets sentenced to about like 10 years or something like that 10 years and 10 years
in prison 10 years probation for that two years later right um two or three years later that
that conviction gets overturned so the the conviction for him shooting at Wayne's bus gets overturned
Right.
So if we're being technical here,
Doug definitely didn't snitch on him in the bus shooting, right?
But then in 2020,
Roscoe gets sent, and I want you out to read it,
Roscoe gets sent.
What did he say on that interrogation shit?
Man, Roscoe, he was to serve Wayne.
He said he ain't no shooter.
Like, he was to serve Wayne.
Look, I want you out of read.
He was on the run.
Wait, hold on.
in September 18
Okay
He uh
Hold on hold on
Here we go
Look
In 2018 he pled guilty
To six of the 27 charges
For the 2015 shooting
He was sentenced to 10 years
He had that conviction overturned
On an appeal
Okay
Then in 2020
He took an Alfred plea on two of the 27 charges
From shooting
Right
He was released at the time
He was then sent to Florida to face unrelated drug charges.
Now granted, it says unrelated, so probably whatever, but I'm just going off the logic.
That's the thing I think street niggas don't like when Internet niggins start reading paperwork
and listen to their words and applying logic and saying, well, your same things that are kind of,
it's either one or zero, not he told a little or that ain't really telling.
You went up in the thing.
Yeah, you spun them.
You said he ain't no shooter or whatever.
but he sold drugs, then he gets locked up in Florida for drug charges.
Anyway.
They don't have me performing in front of some nigger that I feel like ain't bigger than me.
Oh yeah, for sure.
That's the only thing.
No, that ain't.
That's just more of like branding.
I don't want to look like no peon type shit.
But you got a nigga that blocked me as money.
I ain't never told them if a nigger on this show, I'm not performing.
I never did that in my life.
You got a nigga that block nigg's money.
Do them nigg was going to be there or ain't coming?
So them folk going to naturally take such a such side over.
Over goddamn little Joe Blow.
I feel like them tired niggas be bitch-nickers anyway, though.
Like mama-boy-ass niggas, like super mama boys, though.
But they be having real niggas with them and they're going to move with that shit.
Yeah, because, yo, Bank, I love how Banks giving it.
I know y'all tired of me pausing, but I love how Banks giving it up.
You know what Bank's talking about?
Man, it was openly known, man.
Because of Dirk affiliation with the Cool Club in Atlanta,
man, there was a black ball on young boy.
Everybody know that.
Maybe not necessarily on a show level.
And it probably was on a show level,
but even though a young boy was locked up
or like, you know,
house or rest of that time.
But it was basically saying,
don't give this nigger opportunity
if you want to be cool with us.
Yeah, he's like, yeah,
not anybody, none of this is like savage,
but, you know, that was a thing.
Bank is hinting to things.
He's just not saying it directly.
He's talking about,
so what y'all think about, you know,
another nigger trying to get some money
and y'all just be like, man,
yo, if y'all fuck with that,
you, y'all can't fuck with us.
Nicky, that's exactly what happened in Durk and Youngboy.
Yo, he's mentioning all the things we care about.
Oh, that ain't, that ain't really telling.
Doug.
Oh, that nigga can't get no money.
Young boy. Come on now.
It's the money.
That's what I said.
That's the pussy shit.
Yeah.
That's the pussy shit.
It's like, nobody ain't telling the niggas to real.
Like, you'd be like, bang, you be anti-social.
You're too stiff.
You don't want to be.
Bro, because I'm going to be the nigger that seemed like a hater because I'm going to be saying everything.
Man, that bitch shit, too.
That's a bitch shit.
That's a bitch.
I'm gonna be saying it all day.
So I just-
You don't know the game might need that.
No, but I ain't got, I can't take how he might take it.
What's you mean?
If I'm with you, right, we're a cob of code or whatever,
and I see a nigga like, man, man, damn, I didn't even think of rock me,
I'm a guy, or whatever I say about a nigga woo.
And he fell away.
But I really, I really feel like, bro, you is tripping you,
why you got a thong, whatever, whatever niggas be doing.
Why are you doing that?
That's, see, me, I have to be around it because I'm an old nigger too.
So, like, y'all be like, bro, that's that old niggins shit.
No, I wouldn't say that about that.
But you said that about something else.
When I was talking about this rat shit, you were like, bro, you're trying to kick it like,
you're Al Capone days and all that old shit.
Like, this shit don't go like that, no more.
I was just saying that because you be stubborn.
It's like you, once your mind made up, I got to really wait till you just calm down a little bit from the situation.
And then talk to you when you, like, don't give a fuck about it no more.
You know you know you, boy.
I'm with you, you mean you're right.
Hey, man.
It's fucked up.
I just told you're going to have the phone back down, man.
Nah, but yeah.
But have I been wrong?
I asked you a little on this other day.
If I get it, it's a gift and a courage.
If I'd be like, man, a nigga, ho.
I don't say that about a lot of niggas,
but I say it by a lot of niggas.
No, you say that about a lot of niggas.
Okay.
How many?
You say that about everybody, pain.
Except me.
Yeah.
I gotta keep it a brick.
Hey, but listen, do them niggins eventually do some whole ass shit.
Yes, but I've been told you that all.
Why they're posing the Instagram piece you're looking down.
You just be realizing late.
I just be telling you, he's a ho-ass nigger, but shit, ho-ass nigger, lit though.
I got to do the song with him.
You'd be the one like vouching for him and then they do some whole shit.
But you say the same thing.
What?
Like, he's a whole-ha-nigger-nig-nig.
I fuck with him.
I just know he'll always.
It doesn't rent out.
It's like it's the majority now.
You think so?
I don't think that.
I think so.
You think it's majority whole niggas?
Yes.
You think.
You're talking about globally.
You ain't talking about in Atlanta?
You're talking about in Atlanta?
Bruh, yes.
I'm talking about everywhere.
It's like you said, bro.
No nobody want to see nobody else be lit.
I don't know what's wrong with that shit.
Like, this ain't got nothing to do with you.
Like whatever go on your account, whatever, around your neck, whatever, bro, that shit ain't got shit to do with me.
Shit.
I don't want none of the holes you got.
I don't want to say in California.
I don't want what another nigga got.
I'm already comfortable with me.
Niggas gonna be comfortable with their self.
Like all these quiet, you'll come out and talk with all these quiet niggie, these niggie,
these nigger really high and some slick shit.
That's what they don't want the world or no like.
Yeah.
Something else, this nigga like shit.
I'm gonna fuck around and be out.
Like I'm talking.
And the bitch tail got there and she's been whatever playing them a tail.
They're playing them a tail and all this old shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So the niggas will be quiet and shit.
Like, she'll be over the walk light, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
She don't want this shit to come out.
It's a lot of that going on too.
Yeah.
Niggas look in the mirror and know they don't see who we see.
Yeah.
Damn, that's deep.
Real shit.
Like, bro.
So you're saying he's a nigga insecure.
Like a motherfucker.
I look in the mirror, bro.
I pump myself up.
I know who I should.
Shit, niggie who don't got that.
I don't change it like, well, you're gonna work your move, you'll finish yourself.
I don't know for death myself to change.
This shit actually working.
Oh, God.
No, but you got some nigger that knowing like, if the world knew this, every day.
Dealing with that.
And we'd be thinking like, why are you so upset?
Why do you people be so nunchin?
No, they're dealing with their own problems.
Oh, they didn't even find demons.
Yes.
Like the other kind of demons.
Bro, you never seen the niggas just never, like, you ain't never.
gonna be happy like why you ain't never happen bro you never smile and you never happen yeah i be it
depends though it's because it's certain niggas that i can understand why they like that
like who like just niggas who really was in the street for yeah man one thing about once you get out
that shit man you live another life man that shit go away bro like i know no i'm saying a lot of pain
don't go away but i know you still gotta be grateful and thankful that you still here though yeah for
sure like i feel like everybody fucked up in the head yeah for sure because i'm saying a lot of
I was thinking about it earlier where I was driving because I knew you was going to bring that shit up.
And I was like, got down.
Got down.
A nigga that lost all these friends from gun violence.
And I was like, these niggas a nigga grew up with.
Like, nigga know their mom is woo.
Half them niggas in the Army, I ain't seen each other parents ever in life.
Like, they meet there.
Yeah.
And them niggas come home with me fucked up in the head for real.
Like take medicine, end up killing their self and all kind of shit.
Because these niggas, I ain't gonna say that about our veterans, man.
But these niggas be school, boy, went from school.
They ain't went through that storm first.
But, but, these niggins went from school, college to the water.
Okay, okay, what storm did we go through in the street?
It was goddamn, you're off the port, bam, shit, he's gone.
No, but you have already seen, goddamn cousin and uncle fighting.
This person fighting in the house.
Bitch, sit down.
Oh, you're getting cussed out.
And they're having that shit, too.
Now that's something is up.
They see that shit more than we do.
Because them, them niggas be daddy got down, retired.
drank wine and beer all day, slap mama when he mad.
Oh, God.
Don't be the folk.
You get what I'm saying, though.
We're hearing about bodies and shit.
Like such such, like you said on another one of them interviews,
he was like, um, one of the niggas came down with y'all got smoked.
He didn't come with us.
He was just a nigga, like, from there.
Yeah, but don't say, we ain't got smoke.
But you been hearing that as a young nigga, and got his ass smoke.
But you were hearing that as a young nigga, like,
oh, see, he probably, you know what I'm saying?
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah.
It's certain shit that, you know, kind of groomed.
I still don't feel like you can ever be groomed for.
to murder and like homicide and shit.
So I feel like...
You can get numb to it,
but I'm saying there's nothing that you can go through leading up
that will make you process it different
than any other person.
I feel like...
Yes it is.
Some people mine are weaker than others.
No, I feel like we just talk to suppress how we feel as black men.
That's the only difference.
But God damn, so we think we're better than...
We're doing better than what we is
because we was taught that the niggas just suck it up
and keep on going.
So that's probably the only difference
between us and veterans, but what my point is is veterans are losing people that they knew
for got down six months, three months, four months.
Niggas losing niggas, they knew forgot down 15 years.
So if they, all I'm saying is, okay, even if they weren't ready for it, whatever, whatever,
the level that they be PTSD be at, I know street niggas is something similar.
That's my point.
Yeah, but that, to me, if I went the walls a whole bunch of niggas, they ain't no like, push niggas.
You can't say that.
You can't say that.
You're waking up with these, niggins.
You're playing space with you niggas every day.
Yes, you would.
You would grow up bond, bro.
21 year old bank, man.
21 year old bank, man.
You ain't goddamn Afghanistan, man.
You're all in a tent on a fucking base, nigger.
Y'all wake up every day.
Y'all work out.
Listen, bro, y'all wake.
Y'all work out every day.
Yeah.
Play Spades, y'all eat together, y'all got down watch the game together.
Y'all start, man, bragging.
How long before we go to war?
I got three kids, bro.
Here, here go their pictures, bro.
Yeah, I got two.
This is my wife, ooh-woo.
Bro, you naturally going to go abroad with a bong with a nigger, bro.
You didn't grew bond with people since you started doing this podcast.
For sure.
That you love, like, yo, day one.
Yeah, for sure.
Okay, so that's the same thing.
It's work.
This is work, and you grew bonds with people at work.
But I'm going, I'm going to bond with these people that's not on the battlefield.
We're in Afghanistan, I know half of these knick from to die.
You don't.
I'm just keeping it real.
Bro, that's right.
You can't say.
I ain't been to bill too much with these folks.
You can't say that.
I ain't any kind of bill too much.
This is what I'm saying, you don't just go from zero to Afghanistan, bro.
Your ass being training, y'all being training first, and then you get deployed.
It ain't like you just get deployed with a whole bunch of niggins you've never seen before.
That's just like saying you go to jail and everybody in your dorm that you built some with.
When they get out, y'all come over here to me.
That's the same thing.
You billed bonds when you're in jail.
Like, Nick go to jail,
a nigga be in jail with niggas.
Man, me get out of jail.
They'd be happy to get the fuck away around them, niggas.
No, you're taking what I'm saying.
I'm not saying that they be kumbed by you.
I'm saying if that, if them dying at war,
bring them that level of trauma, nigger,
and they didn't grow up with them,
then our level of trauma got to be damn there higher.
Oh, no, I agree with that.
That's all I'm saying.
No, 100%.
But I don't feel as if, though, my, my,
That shit would do the same thing as like somebody else.
No, I ain't saying that it would.
I'm just saying that we as street niggas, as black men, right?
We don't look at our mental as big as a problem as it probably be because we talk to suppress shit.
That's my point.
I agree.
And I'm saying if a nigger can be that fucked up in the head behind some niggas that he knew for six months dying,
then you gotta be more fucked up
than what you think you is
but you're just pushing it somewhere else.
Oh for sure.
And it's fucking up something else
in your body.
That's what I'm saying.
Not for sure.
I agree with that 100%.
Because the nigga
Every time,
nigga, I'm just being in the house
I might cry about that shit for nothing.
Oh, God.
Nick, I cry about Johnny.
Nica, Johnny died
got down 12 years ago.
But we letting it out though.
Niggas ain't trying to kill
their self and do all that shit
that he'd be doing.
Yeah, but that's because we talk to suppress it.
That's my point.
We ain't being open with our emotions
We only gonna cry in the house
When the girl cooking
She downstairs
We ain't
We ain't just walking around
Nigger be having thoughts
Nika, nigga might be in the car by theirself
And just have thoughts and shit
Facts
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah
But we like
Hell, no, I'm tripping, bro
I miss you, bro, but I'm tripping
You see what I'm saying?
No, fact
Damn
So how you, so
What you think
Like shift your mindset
From the street
Like when you was in the streets, like, man, I got to do this new shit.
I got to do something else.
I ain't going to lie.
I ain't really get all the way out of the streets to the money start coming.
So the money.
If I ain't make no money, I would have still been doing what I had to do.
What part of the streets you look back on that like that shit was lying by doing?
Streets.
Just anything, a part of your light, that you feel like, man, I would lie in the head.
When I said that shit, I bankroll fresh, that's probably one of the only things I just ever be like, damn.
Fuck without thank you.
But anything else, I don't look at none of that shit like Wayne.
I look at it like shit.
Like I was doing what I had to do.
For real.
What you think?
You had to drive yourself in one word or what it would be?
Solid. I try to say that.
Solid.
That's a good one.
Silent.
If somebody else, if your mama describes you, what she'd say?
What would she say?
Strong.
Me either.
Or what he would say about me?
Lawyer.
Two lawyer.
T.J.
Say I'm a bitch.
What T.J?
Is he still in?
Mm-hmm.
He's behind a little thing.
What a savage drink said, T.J?
What do we eat at?
Oh, yeah.
Hold on.
Uh-uh.
I'm an ice with that shit, man.
You've got no light.
Hey.
So, so.
What was it say?
I was asking you.
What Harold say?
Wow, you're a woman smart.
I give you that.
So do you think you played Dawn before?
Yeah, yeah.
I already played Don.
Why?
So I need to think I'm done.
And then I get tricked.
Have you ever caught yourself trying to sly adapt to that route shit?
Like, tell the truth, bro.
Adapt, no.
In what way, though?
Like...
I always did my own thing, bro.
I ain't...
You know what I'm just saying?
But still, though, you know, like...
Coming in this shit.
You always did your own thing.
I always have, but I'm saying, still cross your mind,
like I might need to.
Have they ever crossed your mind?
Like, I might need to do this,
because this was, you know what I'm saying?
Unless Meesey then asked me to do it.
Some shit that I didn't want to do,
and I did it for Measy, for Jen.
Like what?
Like some of you ain't paying the 10?
Like what?
Like, just like certain songs, they might be like,
oh, we like this one, and I'd be like,
fuck that song, and they keep saying,
we like it though, all right, go ahead.
Shit like that.
Do this magazine or do this, do that, shit like that.
But you say you ain't never compromising yourself, period, no matter where it is.
No.
If in my heart I feel like, no, I don't need to do this, I'm not going to do it.
What about like all the dressing shit, you never thought like, damn, I need to probably
got there and put on your little bit of ass pants and little bit of that shit.
I'm just asking.
Somebody like, thorn.
Fuck, don't know, nigger.
I need to go.
crop on the hip. Hell, la.
You ain't ever thought about doing that?
Hell, fuck, no.
That shit wasn't even fit me.
That shit had fucked my career.
They were like, man, that nigad, what the fuck wrong with that
that nigh.
This nigad, then went too goddamn,
rap.
That niggar too cute.
Fuck no.
Hell, nah.
What's the shit if you could change about the streets?
Like I asked about the rap game, what's your chain for the street?
He said ego for the rap game.
What about the street?
The streets.
I make it to where all you can do in the streets is hustle.
Come on, wait.
You be drinking them?
Yeah, that motherfucker take it.
Yeah.
That's out of my boy, feed. Let me get one.
I'm gonna drink one.
A little toddler's doing.
It's all good.
I might have been drinking out of him.
Grab that one.
How'd make it so goddamn, all you can do is hustle.
Can't kill nobody.
You gotta be consequences to the money, though.
To the money though. That's one thing about the streets is like if you can't hug no violence don't say yeah, that's what I'm saying no violence
So can't rob nobody robbing is a lot of hustle to you? Yeah, but that that's gonna lead to violence it is a hustle I know some niggas that's all they do is rob
They say robin ain't hustling that stay hustle that used to be a hustle for me
Rob it with the other hustle shit gets slow ain't no move shit
What we gotta do?
That is a hustle though, bro.
That's why they say you can't knock no nigger hustle.
When they came out and said like,
I remember you first tell me like, but I'm gonna get the e-boys on the phone
with a Lucci and, um,
and um,
Slime, right?
Like, why you always feel like you gotta patched nigger shit up though?
Because you did that with me.
Like what I'm saying?
You feel like that's who you are?
No, I just felt like me and Lucia always been good.
Yeah.
But Lucci knew like, shit, I fuck with slime.
So goddamn.
Like, it ain't, when we see each other, we're speaking shit,
but we just didn't overly kick it type of shit.
If I just watched two niggers,
I almost lose their freedom behind some shit.
Shit.
Why not got down?
bring y'all together like play a role like try why not put it put the bug in y'all ear
because they still really connected on their own I just put it in both of their ill like to do it
you know what I'm saying so it was like got down luchy was still in jail and got down I had
wrote him and somebody wrote me back from his page or something and got down I told him like
God down shit.
I want you.
How you feel about sitting down with, bro?
But slime was already out.
So got down.
After he's,
Lucci was like shit,
hell yeah, but I ain't gonna do it
while I'm locked up shit.
When I come home, we could put something together.
But I hadn't already talked to slime about it too.
He was like, bro, I ain't never really had no problem with him.
Like, whoop type shit.
So I'm like, what?
So then when Lucci got out,
got down, slime was working.
on his album and he was playing songs and shit and i was like man why you gonna put luci on that
u-woo type shit and he were like bro i already been talking to luci got down he had DM me whatever
bro i'm a cinema song though who-who then they ended up doing that but i don't know i just felt like
shit y'all niggas then went through everything you can go through dealing with beefing with each other
like what what more can come from the shit but death or goddamn jail forever so shit i don't know
I just felt like, got down, I fuck with this nigger and I fuck with this nigger.
Shit, trying to put them together.
Have you ever tried to put this shit together at just wouldn't work?
Why being dirt?
But dirt locked up.
So, goddamn, he can't really talk.
But I didn't have conversations with, why being, I didn't have conversations with dirt people type shit.
But he ain't worked.
But goddamn, I didn't try.
You know what I'm saying?
What did you think make you?
But can't on nigg?
patch your shit up though I patch my shit up
wasn't it patch shit up I ain't from the same
I'm just saying but do you think
what would make you not pass some shit up
and what would make you not even try to make like
man y'all need to fix this like hey ain't even call
that you need that shit too far
what will make me not patch some shit up
I don't think you could say bloodshed
because that's what happened with thug and
Lucy not saying
either was responsible whatever but
but in the mix stuff like the bigger issue
people did die
Well, none make me not pat some shit up as long as what's done to me, what's done to you too.
Like that was like the most serious shit, like shlam and Lucha, that was some serious shit.
But most of the shit that niggas be into it about, niggas don't even know why they're into it.
Right.
Like, right.
Like, it'd be like, shit, bro, I don't know.
Like, when it comes down to it, niggas don't even know how I started.
Right.
So what's some shit that nothing happened?
Like, you know how a nigg might, I just don't fuck with that, he's got a weird vibe.
Like, can a nigga pass that up with a nigga?
You just can't feel his energy.
Like, I just don't fuck with these, niggins.
Yeah.
But it gotta be like, I gotta feel like it's genuine.
And some niggas, some niggas just ain't meant to be cool.
Facts.
Like, everybody don't always mean to be cool with everybody, right?
Some niggas that's just like, we don't got a problem, but we're not cool.
We're not, like, friends either.
That's cool.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, I'm not one of them niggas who is like, but you gotta be cool with me or if you aren't with me, you're against me.
I don't feel like that. I feel like, shit, nigger, if goddamn, if got down, you feel some type of way about me or whatever. We just don't get along. That's fine, bro.
I was waiting on you to say some whole ass shit on the car, but you gotta be glad, but you stood on those bitty on the car. I don't wait. I didn't wait.
I probably did. They probably just didn't put that out. I don't know.
Say it's something in there or something? It might be. It might be. I don't know.
You sound like you level-headed, though, bro, on the car.
Yeah.
Because I don't feel like, I feel like shouted wrong, but I don't feel like he did it on purpose.
Who?
That's just my opinion.
So why you ain't tried to pass that up?
Why?
I don't feel like that could be passed up.
I try to put these on group tape.
Oh, that's crazy.
People died with the lucci shit.
Nah, yeah, they could be cool.
Joe, this nigga like, he's like, I don't think he snitched on purpose or I don't think he told him on purpose.
Yeah, that can't be passed up.
Yo, Savage, that's crazy.
But I don't say nothing.
I don't feel like, I feel like the only way that it had to be patched up is if gonna say something to him.
This is why Savage is a great friend.
And I know I'm critiquing here, but I consider him my friend too.
But he's clearly just a friend of thought.
You get what I'm saying?
Like he's making these situations.
everything to do with thug
he sees in thugs like favor
oh
this could only be patched up if
gonna say something to thug
why the fuck gonna wanna even
talk to thug thing is gonna be doing
better without thug I ain't gonna
if I'm thugged you need to say
something to gonna
maybe you offer some forgiveness
but I can't
do nothing wrong to me
I kind of see
the only situation
the only thing I told
and I agree and I agree
And I agree with what he just said there, but here's the thing.
Yeah, okay, even if you say Gunna did something wrong,
what does Gunna have to gain by being friends with Thug?
Thug's career went down.
Gunna's career went up or stayed the same.
It seems like the person who lost the step
should be the one to initiate rather than the one that's up.
What's lying was?
This yo young nigga, man.
You know this young nigga, right?
Yeah.
You know in your heart, God damn.
Then I can't say that neither, because it'd be like,
I'd be like going back and forth about this shit.
Because in my heart, I don't feel like he did it to hurt him.
But then again, I feel like
niggas do do anything to get out sometimes too.
Niggas do get in that space in their head
where it's like, bro, fuck that I'm ready to come home.
But this is how I think he was thinking.
Like, this is my opinion.
I feel like Gunner was thinking his head,
well, I ain't saying I seen sline do nothing.
I ain't saying no specific.
Nothing that I seen nobody do nothing like oh I seen this happen I seen this person shoot this person
I seen them lead to go kill him I felt like he felt like what he was saying one really snitching in his head like shit
it's just like saying some shit but niggas saying that got down you've seen niggas commit crimes on behalf of why itself that that's that's that's bad bro that's not good like that don't it don't no matter your intention to the people to the world well not to
to the world because the world switched at first that.
But Doug said he's seen her.
He knew that that Roscoe sell drugs.
That's a crime.
This is why they don't like when the sidewalk niggas get involved
because the sidewalk niggas like me, we start being technical.
Oh, so Gunner's mistake was saying that he knew niggas did a crime.
Okay, okay, we get that.
But what about thugs saying that he knew that Roscoe did a crime?
sell drugs. Why is it not the same?
They were saying, got down. He was wrong. Now they're saying he right.
But got down to like, niggas like me and shit. Like, gonna call me when he first got out,
man. Nick, I was sitting in the bed. He was like, bro, what's time? Like, boy, y'all at home, boy,
you good? Woo-hoo. I ain't even see the video yet. Boom. Got down, see the video.
He called me. I think he was leaving the jail or something the first time I talked to him.
He just got in the house.
The second time he called, I think he was telling me pull up.
Like, everybody was at his spot.
So, God, I didn't see him the video now.
So I'm telling him like, bro, that shit, the shit looked bad, twin.
He's like, man, the lawyer tricked me, man.
I ain't even know, like, woo.
So I'm like, goddamn.
I'm like, shit, you can't get a plea back?
Because before he, before gunny even got locked up, he was calling me.
And I would, like, I got to pause this, man.
Savage, I love you.
You can't get a plea back.
nigga gonna came home to two bitches with the fattest BBLs
nigga we still haven't been able to measure the curvature on those ass cheeks
since listen you think he was trying to get back up in Cobb County
or goddamn Fulton County Jail to sit there to talk on the telephone
fuck no imagine getting out free
and your man call you yo you can't give the plea back and go back to jail
for what for what
What the hell give the plea back got it.
Y'all right, that's wild.
Like, when they put the shit out, like, they was looking for him.
And I told him like, bro, don't.
Like, shit, you can't get a plea back.
Because before he, before gunny even got locked up, he was calling me.
And I, like, when they put the shit out, like, they was looking for him.
And I told him like, bro, don't keep running,
because that's going to fuck up your chances of getting a bond even more,
the longer you got down.
Like, go ahead and turn yourself in and shit.
So, got down.
I told him like, shit, see if you can be.
get a plea back like because i'm telling you it's going to make you look a certain type of way like
to the public like it's going to stain you i believe you that you this is where savage again
becomes hypocritical savages i love you know you know i love you but here's where you're becoming
hypocritical again you says remember what you said when it came to when they were talking about thug
remember the topic was hovering around thug nobody mentioned thug but you know they're talking
about thug you know what he said the internet fucked up no no no no the street
Streets got fucked up when the internet start kind of like scoring it, right?
And the internet want to be like, and then he switched it twice.
He's like, yo, it's either you told it you didn't.
Then he's like, then bank brought up, well, where'd I come up with this?
He ain't really tell shit.
And he's like, well, there's technical files.
There's this.
And he's like, yo, you can't listen to the internet.
The internet, like, like, shit's fucked up now because the internet niggas is now
dictating shit
what is he saying about gunna
yo gunna to the public
we gotta think the public is the internet
because the video came out on the internet
yo can you get a plea back
because right now to the internet
you look crazy so what is it
should it be the same way
are y'all saying fuck what the internet
is saying about thug
why can't y'all say fuck what the internet's saying
about gonna why not
you didn't know what you was doing
but I can't really say that you didn't
because you've grown
but it so got down I told him like shit see if you can get a plea back like because I'm telling you it's gonna make you look a certain type of way like to the public like it's gonna stain you I believe you that you didn't know what you was doing but I can't really say that you didn't because you're grown but if that's what you're going with I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that after the relationship that we do got I let you say that to me and I take that for what it is I maybe you really didn't know type shit but at the end of the day how I look at the situation I'm like
Like, man, slime should have never been saying certain shit.
Like he should have never broadcasted the shit to the internet and shit.
It could have been like a behind club.
Like silence speak louder than anything sometimes.
So just slime getting out and them seeing like ain't nobody fucking with Gunna, they would
know.
You get what I'm saying?
Like that's how you felt if you wanted, if your intention was to let the world know that
you don't fuck with Gunna, you never had to say it really publicly type shit.
But I do understand a nigger being in their emotion sometimes.
and moving off emotions because niggas do do that too type shit but but but but but but got
down he could have he could have just not said none and and and they would have went off that type
shit i look at it like this i look at it like this uh i feel like like like but what he did he didn't
necessarily snitch on a nigga like say this nigger did this but you saying you're helping
them prove their theory what you did help them prove that theory whether whether they were going to use it or
Like, niggas keep saying, oh, they weren't going to use it.
But y'all don't know jurors watched shit, bro.
They're not supposed to, but jurors see shit on the internet, bro.
So if the jury's seeing a headline where Gunnison got down, yes, he is a gang and got down niggas committed crimes, people see that.
I don't know if he did it intentionally.
I don't feel like that.
Like, just my vibe from him, I don't feel like that.
But I do feel like he wrong.
Because definitely when all this shit's sad and done, bro, before Slime even start tween
when he got out, he was quiet for a minute.
He didn't say nothing for a minute when he first got out.
Man, call that nigger phone.
Hey, pick up, bench, that.
No, you write.
You write about that.
You write about that 100%.
I feel like they would have probably had a conversation if you got to think,
I'm already hearing you from jail saying these shit.
Remember they leaked the call and furrow.
He was like, bro, put the shit out.
I need to ditch the boy on the album or whatever.
They had already put that out, so we already knew.
But this is how I operate, bro.
Let me talk to you.
Just me as a man.
Not even that.
I'm not judging you off.
None of I don't post to hear just as a man.
I don't care what you tell Shantay, bro, about me in the bed.
You might say, look at me, I'm tripping, man.
He's that I keep talking for this nigga.
Nigger's tripping.
I don't post to hear that shit, man.
That's you and your girl talking.
So I'm not going to hold that against you.
Well, I know it, like, and hear it and be like, down, he said it, yeah.
But I'm not going to hold that against you.
So even slime saying this shit while he locked up,
nigga, you know you don't.
For one, don't post to be hearing it.
And for two, what you did was wrong.
So just take that on the chin.
See what I'm saying?
No, I agree with that.
I just feel like me person, I feel like they would have been able to help.
Like you said, ego is involved now.
It's like, what I'm gonna come say now if you are gonna show me, fuck me.
And I feel slime, it's like, I can, I can, I can forgive an enemy before I can forgive a friend that I feel like cross me.
Easy.
Because you, you ain't getting them with an end for to do.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So I can forgive you easy.
Like, niggas be asking me that like, how you can say,
It's cool with this nigga.
Because this nigga didn't owe me no law.
I'm gonna ready to die and go to the chain game for this nigga.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
We're cool, but we ain't cool.
But a person that I really genuinely took in and loved you, it's like, I ain't going to be able to get back down with you.
It's going to be worse.
It's going to be worse.
So I see it from Sline's side.
And I see it from Gunn's side for us.
Bray, and then I can say he already showed me how he feels.
Oh, no, either one of them feel like this, but I'm just saying.
I put myself in both of that shoe.
If it was slime, I love this nigga to death.
If I was slime, I'd be like, I love this nigga to death.
But I can't trust you, bro.
Because when I was at my lawyer, you chose you instead of us.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
I don't either.
I know.
But he went out there like that, though.
Yeah, he went out there after something out of time because he got pissed off.
Now, you went out there after real?
No, he didn't.
You went out there from jail?
He went out there.
Yeah, you're talking about in that way.
I'm talking about when he got out.
When he had the opportunity, niggas.
Niggas confused him just saying rat, rat, rat as Gunna.
Gunna ain't the only nigga that told on that case.
So every time he said rat, they just automatically apply to the gun.
Who do it a rat?
He ain't really start saying specific shit till later, bro.
And I feel like he did that because he like,
My goddamn daddy put us in a group chat and you ain't said now.
I gotta respond to the group chat first.
No, he broke it down.
You did me wrong.
So, nigger, you, like, this is what niggas problems be, bro.
The little brother always struggled with being able to be like, take their discipline as the little brother.
Niggas cool with being a little brother when there's money, success, all this shit.
But when they fuck up, it's like, no, I'm a man too.
Yeah.
You're a man, nigger.
So you're supposed to come back around, take your whatever your discipline is, your goddamn
lecture if a nigga chump you off or whatever, even if we don't see eye to eye after that.
But at least I know in my heart you valued our relationship enough that you tried.
Instead of just like giving me like, man, I don't give a fuck.
That n'n't give a fuck, that nigger.
I don't care about clearing that shit up to him.
But I don't feel like, I understand gunnicide too, because it's like, damn y'all y'n'nickers
attacking me, whatever the case like.
Hey, no, he could feel like, and I don't know.
I don't know how a man feel, I'm just saying he could feel like.
That's what I've been doing now.
That's why I shit's perspective, because I always try to put myself in other people's shoes.
It could feel like, like shit, bro, it's already what it is.
And there ain't nothing I can do.
I feel like, before Sline got out, it wasn't that far gone, bro.
Motherfuckers would have forgot about that shit.
But a nigga could-
And a nigga, I talked to Wham, nigga.
And Wham told me, got down.
He went on no overly like, boy, fuck that.
That nigger told shit.
He wasn't on that.
He was on some shit like, shit.
I'm playing an hour of a bro.
I don't care.
You can't speak on that shit.
Yeah, yeah.
But niggas, like, he had a little song with Dan
where he said, got down.
Niggas take him pleas.
I know slime ain't happy.
Brud, he ain't the only nigga that took a plea.
Like, niggas just, he's just the biggest person.
So it's like, if a nigger say anything,
a nigger automatically linked that to a gunner.
But you got to think about the internet, too.
If the nigger say that, who else is you're talking about?
We don't even know these other niggas.
But niggas still could be talking about them.
You don't know, niggas don't know about half the niggas, I'm talking out on my album.
When I say rat and shit, you don't know what going in my life because I don't bring that shit to the internet.
You just, you're making your own narrative and taking it, taking something with it and just putting fire on some shit.
But when you don't put that dress on it's for everybody.
So when you leave it out there, it's whoever we think it is.
All right, but that's on you.
That ain't me saying you.
So if the shoe fit, you put, you put the shoe on.
Yeah, you right.
You was born with that shoe size.
I didn't make your foot.
So got down.
If I say something, I'm just saying that's real shit, nigga.
If I say something, nigga, and the shoe fit your foot with that size,
I didn't make your foot that size.
So a nigga can't take that note type away.
Yeah, you're right.
Like, goddamn, but, niggas.
Because niggas been saying rap and snitch.
I got a song on Savage Mode 2.
That shit came out in 2020 called Snitches and Rats.
I was talking about Gunner back then.
You probably will.
That nigga Craig.
I always had a good relationship with Gunnar, bro.
I told him, man, I ain't going to say nothing about you.
Just like I told Rollo, I ain't going to say nothing about you on the internet.
But, brother, you did wrong.
From what I'm seeing, what I've saw, it looked wrong to me.
But you came out of the rip and tried to help Rollo.
Yeah, because he showed me some shit that looked it right.
Then I seen some shit that looked wrong.
But his shit is weird, too, because he's.
So how they're telling?
What you mean?
I'm saying.
The only thing is it's just certain verbiage in his shit that just made me be like, I don't
know.
But it ain't to the point, like, I ain't even stressing he told.
I don't care the stress he told.
I told him, bro, I ain't going to speak on you, bro, because I don't fucking know.
It's too much shit.
It's too many, like, different shit.
It's just too much shit for me to be going on my face trying to just overly say some shit.
Then some most shit come out and it's true.
Some more shit come out on his room.
is wrong.
Yeah.
So the best position I could put myself in with you is to tell you, bro, look, I fuck
with you, but got down, I can't fuck with you.
I don't want to fuck with you because this shit is too much of a question mark on this
shit, bro.
At the end of the day, I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna talk about you.
I ain't gonna call you no rat.
I ain't called none of them.
I ain't went up on Instagram and called nobody no rat or whatever.
Let me ask you something though.
Do every crew have a rat buddy?
Like, let's be real.
Like, from back in the day, like, you slick.
told back in the day.
For sure.
Every crew booed us, so we all booed the gold pool.
No, not, we don't got no rap, buddy.
That hang around us?
No, but you-
That grew up with us, that told, they hang around us.
No.
They don't have that.
There's a questionable shit.
No.
No.
Zero.
To know them yon nigga like that.
Man, Chuck, Crucial, Rock, Harrow.
Harry.
Man, ain't none of them niggas never did.
No questionable shit, ever.
What about from the neighborhood?
Of course, but them niggas got cut off when we was on.
Well, y'all rat-ass-toe.
Hell on.
So if one of them niggas you named did some questionable shit, is you gonna move the gold portfolio?
No, nigga.
What you're gonna do?
I love you.
I wish you the best in life, my brother.
We're getting old, but your ass told, man.
And you know we don't do that.
It ain't about no street shit.
It ain't about no tough shit.
It ain't about none of that, bro.
It's about just the cold and just our morals and principles as men.
We just don't do some shit, bro.
What about the people like being told on me?
Just like being your girl.
We don't play that.
Beating up your girl, slapping your girl around.
We don't beat women, bro.
That's one of the things that me and my niggas stand on as brothers.
We don't beat women.
We take care of our goddamn kids.
Because we look at that just like telling.
You got got down 50 kids in the street.
You ain't there, nothing for now.
Nigel, you'll get jumped on for that, for doing that.
So it ain't got nothing to do with no super tough street shit, bro.
It's just certain shit that we look at a certain way.
Yes, my day one, my blood brother, bro.
If my blood brother, well, because my other little brothers ain't in the street,
they just regular nigger smoke weed, go to work, shit like that.
But my little brother who was in London, who got killed,
if he would have told, I would have never talked to him again.
But you always be someone trying to say what niggas won't do too, though,
what you mean what niggas want to do?
Like, remember when I was going through shit, I was like,
all right, niggas will do that shit.
You're like, not my niggas.
Not my niggas, my niggas won't cross me.
They won't do that.
I ain't going to lie because I don't do shit.
So what the fuck can you cross me with?
No, I'm saying like a thief.
Yeah, a niggas do stuff.
I never said that when never happened.
No, when you were just like...
I said snitching, bro.
I feel like my niggas love me to the point on my mama.
I feel like if I crashed out and did some dumb shit tomorrow,
but Savage is killed the nigga in front of Walmart on camera for nothing.
I swear to God on my mom and on my dead brother, I feel like this in my soul, bro.
I feel like Little Harold, Rock, T.J. God damn.
I don't want the name.
all my niggas, but the main ones were going there and say,
man, little man didn't do that, I did that.
That's how I feel in my heart, bro.
So let me ask you something.
Did you ever feel like old boy would do what he did?
Yeah, for sure.
He seemed to, he did a little, just be, bro.
I do little shit to, I played chess with niggas, bro.
So I wanted him to do that.
I'm glad he did that.
Yeah.
Like, I pay attention to shit like, all right,
you did this little shit, all right?
Let me got down, let you linger around and see
what else like that you would do so I can cut you out before you're too far.
But I pimp, Benpeak shit, you know, used to stay with me.
I ben knew he was doing something.
The nigger used to lock his door when he go to sleep.
You ain't dead nothing for now and one on.
Nigger, you'll get jumped on for that for doing that.
So it ain't got nothing to do with no super tough street shit, bro.
It's just certain shit that we look at a certain way.
Yes, my day one, my blood brother, bro.
If my blood brother, well, because my other little brothers ain't in the street,
They just regular, regular nigger smoke.
We go to work, shit like that.
But my little brother, who was in London, who got killed.
If he would have told, I would have never talked to him again.
But you are...
Oh, I was muted my memory.
No, I was saying that that was savage.
He just him to make sure we're greenlit to be able to stream the shit.
Regular, nigger smoke, we'd go to work, shit like that.
But my little brother who was in London, who got killed.
If he were to told, I would have never talked to him again.
But you always be someone trying to...
say what niggas won't do too, though, I'm saying.
What you mean what niggas want to do shit?
I was like, shit, I was like,
all right, niggas will do that shit.
You're like, not my niggas.
Not my niggas, my niggas won't cross me.
I ain't, I ain't gonna lie because I don't do shit.
So what the fuck can you cross me with?
No what I'm saying, like a thief.
Yeah, niggas do shit.
That's what I said.
No, when you- When-you- I said snitching, bro.
I feel like my niggas love me to the point on my mama,
I feel like if I crashed out and did some,
dumb shit tomorrow. Boy, Savage is killed the nigger in front of Walmart on camera for
nothing. I swear to God on my mom and on my dad, brother, I feel like this in my soul,
bro. I feel like Little Harold, Rock, T.J. God down. I don't want to name all my niggas, but the
main ones were going there and say, man, little man didn't do that. I did that. That's how I
feel in my heart, bro. So let me ask you something. Did you ever feel like old boy would do
what he did? Yeah, for sure. Because he did a little, just, bro, I do little, I do little
I play chase with niggas, bro.
See how far you go.
So I wanted him to do that.
I'm glad he did that.
Like I pay attention to shit like, all right, you did this little shit, all right.
Let me got down, let you linger around and see what that's like that shit you would do so I can cut you out before you're too far.
But I pimp, Ben peeped shit, you know, used to stay with me.
I didn't know he was doing something.
The nigger used to lock his dough when he go to sleep.
The fuck you locking your dough for a nigg.
We've 30 flows up.
Yeah.
Fuck coming up here. Why is your dough lock?
And every time I used to got down, wake him up.
Knock the dough.
Nogged a dog. Nicarred.
Yeah, bro.
Like, scared.
Like, he think I'm gonna punch him or do something to him.
I'm like, nigga, I think I told TJ about that shit.
Like, man, they can keep acting weird every time I got down.
Wake him up or something.
And the nigga, dough always locked.
Like, I see if you got a bitch in the room.
It'll be times where it ain't any no bitch in the room.
You just in there by yourself, dough locked.
Like, you just...
So I already just knew, like, and he already.
did a little shit like that.
And it's like, I forgive him.
Go your separate way.
Can that little shit add up to some shit
that you would never thought a nigga do?
You get what I'm saying?
Because people be around you, bro.
They just be developing shit inside of them
that you don't even know.
See, I think this is the difference between me
and other niggas.
That shit that you're talking about,
them type niggas don't get that close to me.
You talk about shit that niggas close to me could do.
Only a nigger close to me could do that.
And a nigger ain't getting that close to me to got down,
do some shit like what you're talking about.
Like, no, that wouldn't happen.
Them niggas who I named, my nudie, fat fat, like the immediate niggas,
drill, niggas like that, no, never, ever.
And I put any dollar I own on it.
And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
But I feel like if a nigger ain't saying that,
you don't need to be around them niggas.
If you don't feel like that by about your niggas,
why are you around them niggas?
Yes.
I feel you on that.
Shit.
I feel you on that, but shit, when you put five nigger boy out of five.
Well, ten minutes out, Jack.
Maybe two.
I don't think so.
I think the five I got is the ones that ain't like that.
I feel like when you got down, all type of niggas around you who just, my niggas ain't
overly with all that gangster shit, just trying to just start shit with niggas and niggas is grown man.
Niggas is living their lives, making money.
They fucking bitches and doing whatever they want to do.
They're doing the good.
part of life.
We at that stage, or we had the good part of life.
I ain't around a little dusty-ass niggas who just, like, even the young niggas, they
don't, they're on with the big bros on.
I feel like you are what you look up to is what you're going to be.
So, nigger, I lead by example.
I'm not, I don't know, like, jerk-ass shit, like just on some wire, hair, nigginsie
with me ready to crash.
Ooh, ooh, ooh, micka might rap like that.
That shit be capped.
In real life, I got down, go to the studio, I go check on businesses, I got down, have
In his conversations, got down going vacations.
So, no, I don't feel like that.
I don't got them type of a guy.
So you're a studio guy.
Overly.
The biggest studio guys.
The biggest one.
Overly loaded.
The biggest one.
That's one thing I'll say about Savage.
As much as I feel like I'm cool with him and we talk a lot,
I ain't never heard he told me one, like, actual gangster thing.
that he did or like his
niggas did to prove to me
that he's yanks him. And he
don't rap about nothing that got to do with none.
That's kind of like,
if he'd make you like,
he's one of the niggas who actually keep the shit
off of the internet.
Oh, God.
Nah, man.
So.
Crazy.
When you look in the mirror
what you see?
Who you see?
I see.
I see.
I see a nigga who I see a nigga who ain't ever stole rock or took advantage of none of his niggas.
Oh.
None of his niggas.
Okay.
His niggas.
Yeah.
I see a nigga who ain't ever told on none of his niggas, told on nobody in the world.
Okay.
I see a nigga who then became successful and didn't, didn't got down, compromise his morals or
his principles. What else?
I see a nigga who's just goodhearted
and just genuine with everybody who he loved.
And if you don't love you,
shit.
That's what it is.
I agree with that.
Hey, what do you think your biggest accomplishment then?
My biggest accomplishment.
My biggest accomplishment.
Family.
You probably think of music.
I don't know.
I think my biggest accomplishment would be
the fact I could say my mama got
two mansions.
Wow.
That's my biggest accompaniment.
Two?
From sleeping in the bunk bed together.
Right, sleeping in the bump bed.
Now she's on, no mortgage, no nothing.
And she'd be piping it too.
She got two bins, G-wagon, Richemill.
Yeah.
Why does mama have got a richer mill?
That's my biggest accomplishment.
No, for sure.
How did you feel, though?
I had to go to that show with you out there in London.
No, the first time back, what's the name of that thing you is?
O2.
How that shit felt?
She was hard.
So that was your first time leaving the country going to perform?
Well, you know, that count-
Chat, let me grab some, I gotta grab a red book.
Yo, albums dropping in five minutes.
Give me a second.
Grab a red book.
There's another country, so technically Toronto,
but London life, so we're leaving for real.
How you, I see Drake, sit shot you out on song,
like, you based on the nigga that be tapping in with it.
How you keep that relationship like that when you keep that relationship like that when you're
instead of getting on, you know, getting at the table?
I don't never think I, I ain't never really been at no table, man.
I'm just asking, bro.
I'm just asking, like, you know how, like,
I fuck with Drake.
Me and Drake, it's just the relationship keep itself,
just like me and Metro.
I tried to get them together.
What happened?
Long, long, long before all this shit happened.
What happened?
You know, some niggas just, Metro felt how he felt.
Metro felt the certain type of way about something.
Drake told me and Metro that he understood what he was wrong and apologized multiple times
but I feel like Metro just felt how he felt but I feel like now Metro is kind of more
open-minded what I mean I feel like he like I don't know I feel like
like Metro been through a lot so you know like I feel like oh let me go back
Metro that he understood Metro felt discerned
Have you?
I tried to get...
I tried to get...
That's like, you know how like...
I fuck with Drake.
How you keep that relationship like that...
Out of that in London.
Oh, good.
My bad.
Oh, too.
I missed it.
How that shit felt just to go back home to see you.
It was hard.
So that was your first...
First time leaving the country going to, um, perform?
Well, you know, they count Canada as another country.
So, technically, Toronto, but London life, like,
so we're leaving for real.
How you, um...
I see Drake sit, shot you out on song, like you're based on a nigga that be tapping in with how you keep that relationship like that instead of getting on, you know, getting at the table.
I don't never think I, I don't, I ain't ever really been at no table, man.
I'm just asking, bro.
I'm just asking, like, you know how, like, what Drake.
I, me and Drake, it's just the relationship keep itself.
Just like me and Metro.
So did you try to get them together?
What happened?
Long, long, long before all this shit happened.
What happened?
You know, some nigga just...
Metro felt how he felt.
Metro felt the certain type of way about something.
Drake told me and Metro
that he understood what he was wrong.
And he apologized.
And he apologized multiple times.
But I feel like...
Metro wouldn't accept it?
Metro just felt how he felt.
But I feel like now Metro is kind of more open-minded.
I feel like he...
Like, I don't know.
I feel like Metro been through a lot.
So, you know, like, I feel like sometimes the shit just don't be the right time.
But I feel like in the future, the near future, we'll see them work together again.
Do you think the damage is done?
Do you think, like, Drake took a hit?
Do I think he took a hit?
Yeah.
No.
He's still the number one screened nigger this year.
Yeah, not a hit that way.
I feel like he took an internet hit.
But then it'd be like, damn, did you take an internet hit?
Because screaming, you got.
No, and I hate to pause it.
But I think what was kind of.
kind of like implied is like, you know, there is forgiveness, but there is like, it's like taking a chick back.
Well, you know, you shouldn't take a chick back if she cheated on you.
But it's like you take somebody back after they do something that's almost kind of unforgivable.
Like, yeah, you fuck with them, but the vibe won't be the same, right?
The vibe won't be the same.
Got to go on the internet to screen.
And also I got to imagine Drake kind of looks at that Metro situation
Like your Metro tried to do his big one on me
Took me off the record basically was trying to send a message like nigger
I don't need you like that like I don't know who's on your dick that much
That's gassing you up like you're the guy that everybody needs you
I don't need you like that and matter of fact we don't need you like that
You know like
It's hard to come back around to that
You know what I mean
And I'm still the number one nigga screaming
Yeah
I feel like to certain people they might say he took a hit,
but I don't look at that shit like that.
I don't know.
I told that nigga not even do all that shit anyway.
I told that nigga leave that shit alone.
But goddamn.
Yo, Savage is a good nigga, bro.
I'm going to tell you the truth.
You know what I realized about Savage?
I think he's been, I don't know what beefs he's been in,
but I can tell he's been some real street shit.
where like
he always
be on some,
yo, that shit ain't by nothing,
bro,
like,
and I could tell
that's how I realize
whatever his reputation
and whatever his niggas
be doing in Atlanta,
they be on some serious shit
because he's quick to tell somebody
you, dead that shit,
by the way,
it's midnight,
we're about to put the album on.
He's quick to tell.
I go on.
Jack, he hit me.
We were talking,
was it last night,
a night before?
Yo,
after like,
I guess he watched the stream.
It looks like your act, man.
Bro.
Leave that man.
No shit alone, bro.
Just leave it alone, bro.
Like, I'm telling you,
Savage is a smart nigga and a good nigga
and a nigga that I know that
he's not telling you nothing out of fear.
Like, he's never telling you, like, oh,
he's telling you, like, your bro.
Man, unless y'all nays trying to take it all the way,
bro, just dead that shit, bro.
He's dead that shit.
Feel me?
It felt like he was being challenged lyrically.
I know the album's coming up.
People were just.
who they, you know what I told Drake?
Here we go.
He called me one of them days, I called him.
This was after the first song, the song with Meta.
I'm gonna load up the album.
And I said, God Down.
I said, you're gonna go into a battle that you can't win.
Like, there's no way you can win.
That's your name.
No matter what, brus, certain situations, even if you win,
you still don't win.
Like, the, the, the, the, the, the, what he would have
got if people would have quote unquote say he won because I don't really look at like
who won or who lost if nigger I'm still being screened the most like so but people say like
oh Kendrick won. Kendrick a good-ass rapper though you get what I'm saying and some of his
songs was hard yeah but got down Drake I like Drake songs too you feel what I'm saying but I feel
like the only difference is when you're at the top when you're the number one nigger
where does winning put you yeah you can't go like number 1.1.
So how the fuck could you win?
Anyway, that's what I told him.
Like, how can you, how can you win?
But it's ego involved, though.
Niggas ain't going on.
It's definitely ego, and it's just some niggas just love,
Drake really love this shit.
Like, Kendrick really loved a rap.
I don't really give a fuck by rapping like that.
Like, I do, but I don't at the same time.
Not to that point where I got down.
I want to just, like, a nigga dissing me
ain't going to inspire me to make, like, to make no song.
I'm going to do some.
Well, I'm waiting for it to get ingestion of YouTube.
But got down.
But some niggas, that shit like, that do, something to them.
Like, what, you think of you?
But I don't know, bro.
I feel like the internet just be ready to tell the niggas down, man.
Because I be even seeing that shit about me.
And I be seeing that shit about baby.
And I'd be like, bro, oh my mama, bro, I really feel like baby shit, he's been dropping
hard as a motherfucker.
It is.
Like, what the fuck are y'all talking about?
They just want to, they tell us.
They want to tell.
They want to tell.
You're gonna tell the top niggas down.
Yeah, nah, for sure.
So how can you win a battle when niggas want you to lose it?
Even if you win, you lose.
Ooh, we're ready, we're ready, ready.
No matter what, even if Kendrick never responded, man.
If Drake just dropped songs and got down, Kendrick never responded or nothing,
he still don't win because his position didn't change.
He was all ready to top nigger.
I'm getting drunk for this.
Yeah, but that shit sounds different when them folk got damn playing.
them folk got down playing your shit at Super Bowl.
But a diss song, that shit hit different.
Yes.
Huh?
I guess.
That shit hit different.
Like, hey, you know, numbers don't lie.
But shit, bro.
That shit got to feel a certain type of way.
Should I cut the interview and go straight to the album?
Or could I just listen to, like, ten more minutes of this interview?
Huh?
What, you're talking about, to hear a nigga this year at the Super Bowl?
Yeah, and to goddamn them arena of them folk, like,
Homie, you know, Kendry been a great artist all this time or whatever.
Yeah, for sure.
You know what I'm saying?
But he ain't had that look.
That Drake dished raw look been his biggest look.
Drake couldn't get that from him.
Facts.
That's all my point was.
Yeah.
You said he should have just left it alone.
He would have just been looking like he's tearing a good nigga that mine ain't been in his down.
So the folks really want to see the underdog win.
When you win, they want to tell you down.
It's red, man.
Yeah.
Even if Drake won.
He would have been the bad guy for winning.
Yeah.
He would have still been like, man, fuck that.
Because Kendrick, one of them rapper rappers.
Like, got down.
You know how to say, like, different shit.
Like, writing shit.
You get what I'm saying.
Like, Jake Cole like that.
Like, they could consider them like the holy, the holy emcees,
yeah, MCs.
Both of them niggins can't rap like Drake.
You can't lose if you're an MC for real.
But Drake is emcee for real.
But he got down.
Make hits too.
He a hybrid.
So it's different.
So it's like goddamn niggas, look at them.
But Meek wasn't an MC?
Nah, Meek was a, meek a emcee, but he really won them type emcee, bro.
Meek ain't made, just going to know, just making no super like nine-minute song
where he just like, like.
Yo, the only reason why Drake will ever lose a battle,
this is why I personally told Drake, no more battles.
Yo, Drake, you, it's the reason why music been dead.
And I know I'm doing a little Drake, a little rant right now,
but yo there's too much ammo against you everybody know everything against you like they know
your whole life we don't know nothing about kentrick you get what i'm saying you rap better than all of
these things yes drake raps better than kentrick i'm sorry bar for bar he raps better than kentrick
bar for bar he raps better than kohl here's the thing they have more ammo than him they could
oh yo you're jewish you're half black yo you oh oh oh you didn't claim your kid at first you
You this, you that.
They got mad things to say about him.
You don't know nothing about Kendrick.
I'm telling you, if Drake had the ammunition on Kendrick that Kendrick had on him,
Drake smokes that, nigg.
Facts.
You know why Drake smoked, I'm smoked, smoke meek.
The only ammo really had on Drake is, oh, you're a singing dude.
And Drake took down some eight miles shit.
You get body by the singing nigga.
Then the other ammo was.
was the Pistone shit, which nobody even thought about or believed at that point.
It was like, I remember, that's why, you know, that's why Mick did for me, right?
Meek was saying, why don't I post and make a big deal about Drink and Pistone?
Because they were pushing that narrative, and I was like, dog, you know you're telling me this on a phone.
It was Koon Philly.
It was Meek's manager.
You know you're telling me this on a phone call.
You want me to go and vouch.
And by the way, you know Drake's my favorite rapper, right?
Like, bro, how about y'all say it?
And by the way, there's no proof of it.
So they had no ammo at that time on Drake.
Pusha T found the first ammo.
You're hiding a child.
Boom.
Now there's so much, there's so much ammo on Drake.
Like if you had to do a roast of Drake, you could think of 30 things.
Do a roast of Kendrick.
Only thing you could think about is that he's short.
Yo, think about push-ups.
Think about push-ups.
Push-ups literally was Drake saying, you wear a size seven shoes.
You're short.
That's all he can say
We don't know Kendrick
Kendrick is like this nigger
Who just doesn't even show up
You don't know the nigger
It's like I was doing
CompassCon with DDG
And I asked DDG
Why do you keep bragging about your money
Because the fans won't me to access
You all the chat
You know what he said
Bro, I'm beefing with people
Who are roasting me
They know my entire life
I see a screen name and a small pitcher
Bro the only thing I can say
That person I don't know them
I could say I got more money than you
I don't how could I roast the
I don't know
How could Drake
Drake has zero ammo on Kendrick
So beefing
When niggas have all the ammo on you
And you have no ammo on them
Come on bro
God
That's right this song
Crazy metaphors the whole time
Shit
Meek is like a trench MC
It's time
MC is he's like
Meek is a for the streets
MC he he know how to be like
MC enough but it's on some street shit
That's why we hold him to the standard
that we hold him. But he ain't like Kendrick and Cole.
Kendron and cold, like up there with nuzz and...
I ain't even talking about like big shit. I'm talking about like just what the culture
view their lyrical or their pen ass.
You got Jid or you got me. They're two different type of rappers.
Yeah, like Jid like that. And them type niggers they automatically are like...
