DJ Akademiks Live Streams - Cassie now getting sued by the ESC#RTS for giving them DISEAZE n S#X TRAFFICKIN EM! 5⁄30

Episode Date: July 5, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Putting me now is an alternate juror who was in the Sean Diddy Combs trial. George is joining us right now. This was seven weeks of your life hearing all of this testimony. You were an alternate. You did not deliberate, but did you agree with the final verdict? I understood the final verdict. And I think if I, you know, because I took a copious amount of notes overall, I think 350 pages worth of notes.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Because at the end, we weren't told who was an alternate, who was the main. juror until literally the last second when they were reading the entire, when the judge was reading his entire statement at the end, it was like, the first 12 are you are the jurors, the last five are the alternates. So we didn't know, even in the jury room, no one treated everyone, we all equal, because we didn't know who is who. Would you have acquitted him on Rico? I think, I think reading all my notes and looking back at the evidence, I probably would have reached the same conclusion as the other jurors. What was it about that charge? I don't, you know, the thing with the, when it, you know, because we were asked and the judge had instructed us that we have to find, you know, we have to find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Starting point is 00:01:16 And I think there was always a little bit of doubt in people's mind. And I don't think, I think it was a tough case to prove, especially the first one. And, you know, there was always a little bit of doubt there, even from, I think, from the beginning. Why did you doubt? I think some of the I think some of the the charges some of the witnesses you know if you you look at it one way but then when you were listening to the defense you know you could see it's their way as well were there any witnesses that made you think I don't believe this there was one that I think you know unanimously we kind of said like wow like it was almost like watching like TV it was like you know like when I think her Her name was Dawn, Richard, that one, that one. When she, on cross-examination, I mean, I never saw such a cross-examination. It was very impressive to watch. What was it about it? I think just how the defense, you know, got into her and really made her, you know, look very not credible.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I mean, I even wrote in my notebook that it was like a takedown. Really? And that was pretty early on. That was pretty early on. From the opening statements, did you have a mindset of who you thought had a better case? No. No. I think overall, I think from the way I look at it, both sides presented really good.
Starting point is 00:02:45 You know, both sides presented themselves well. We were very impressed with the prosecution and the defense, how they, you know, the professionalism, how they carried themselves. I mean, it was really good lawyering, as they say. Racketeering is notoriously a complex case. Did you feel that the prosecution presented enough evidence to support that there was even an enterprise? I think they did the best that they could, but I think there was, it was a tough case to prove. Why? I mean, when you look at the charges, kidnapping, arson, forced labor, you know, the government had one side,
Starting point is 00:03:31 But then the defense, you know, they had some pretty good rebuttals to it. So, I mean, that I think added some, you know, doubt always in, I think, in people's mind. You didn't hear from some of the people the government said were co-conspirators, like employees. Like Christina Karam and D-ROT. Did that affect your thoughts about the case? I don't think so, no. Would you've wanted to hear from them? We always thought that maybe we would hear from them.
Starting point is 00:04:01 But maybe we also understood maybe why they wouldn't be called. Why? Because maybe they didn't want to testify or they wouldn't really be proving the case or maybe it would be not advantageous to be called. So, you know, honestly, we were just waiting until the end until when the judge gave his instructions and how to interpret the law. Because, you know, I think everyone really didn't have anything made up, their mind made up or any in any way. It was really everyone was waiting to see how, you know, the definitions and how everything was going to be interpreted and what they were to be looked at.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So important. Yeah. Talk to you about the sex trafficking cases because of court charges. Obviously, Cassie Ventura testified visibly pregnant for days. Yes. How did her testimony impact you in your understanding of the case? You know, we listened, you know, we listened very intently. It was, I think, five days or forever of thing.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And, you know, it was very riveting. And it was very riveting testimony and very incredible testimony. You believed her. I mean, I think, I think we did. I think we did. I mean, she wouldn't have done all this just to come up there and, you know, lie about everything. So no. I don't think anyone even no one even the the defense didn't didn't come out and say or anything like that. Did the money that they talked about in terms of
Starting point is 00:05:40 a civil settlement she received, did that color her testimony for you at all? I don't think so, no. I don't think so, no. Did you look at the defendant? Did he combs differently after her testimony? No, I didn't really look at him too much. I mean, I always looked at him because my, my, my, point of view was just literally at him like go like some people are on the side but I was more in the corner so I was always like staring at him but I don't think he was mostly just very composed and talking with his lawyers and very in control it seemed like you know because I think certain I mean I'm not really familiar too much with cases and and I don't really follow you know cases in court so I don't know how defendants usually act but sometimes what I've heard in in you
Starting point is 00:06:29 know, from the news is that some defendants, you know, they just sit very stoically. They don't interact with their lawyers. They just let their lawyers talk and go. But he was very, you know, talking with them, writing notes, doing that. So you could tell that he, you know, he was, you know, he was fighting for himself. You saw some very graphic images, videos. You heard very sexual and graphic details. What was that like hearing that? And, how did it impact how you viewed the case? No, they were very graphic. And, um, but I think over, overall, you know, it was just, it was looking at it from like
Starting point is 00:07:16 one side and it was, it was definitely riveting and, um, high opening. What did you see on the videos? You know, the press wasn't able to see it in real time. Yeah. No, I mean, they were showing some of the, well, I mean, there was both the, the, the, the, the, the freak office and hotel nights, as they were called, from both of them. But it was... What were they showing those videos?
Starting point is 00:07:38 They showed... Well, again, you know, the fence and the prosecution showed different clips, so they were very selective. Like, the prosecution was showing more, you know, just Cassie just sitting around... The defense showed that. The fence showed that, yeah. Just her sitting around not engaging in sexual activity? Yes. The prosecution when you had to have your headphones on.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Otherwise, what were you seeing then? Did she just switch up his words? He said the prosecution was show Cassie sitting around. More trying to like do state of mind. Obviously not trying to show her in the act where she's getting pulverized by some random big dick negro. And she's fucking squirting over her shit and like having the time of her life. Like, I get it. You know?
Starting point is 00:08:29 There was sexual activity. But I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't really... Was it forced? It didn't, it didn't seem, it didn't seem, it didn't seem force. It was, it was actually, it was actually like pretty tame. Really? Yeah. Did she?
Starting point is 00:08:47 It was, it was just a lot of rubbing oil and stuff on there. It was funny. I feel like CNN brought this thing on there for him to be like, yo, it was wild. Him saying this? I feel like they're almost like disappointed. And it wasn't. anything too, you know, graphic. Let me ask you, this jury that deliberated did not find sex trafficking when it came to Cassie Ventura.
Starting point is 00:09:14 They also didn't find it when it came to Jane. And I want to ask you about Jane in a moment, but did it surprise you when it came to Cassie Ventura that they did not convict on sex trafficking? No, I think it was a difficult thing to prove. And I think there was always, um, some doubt, you know, whether, because, you know, I think the, what the judge says, it has to be forced. And I think the defense did prove, they did show some messages where it didn't seem that it was
Starting point is 00:09:44 forced. Oh, her text messages, she talked about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was really important to you to consider it. I think, I think that was, I think that was one aspect, yes. Did that make you feel that it was consensual? It did seem like it, yeah. Talk to me about, even in the videos and everything.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Everything seemed very consensual. Really? Yeah. Throw the case out, man. Throw the case out. You know, chat, my new theory on this whole case is that Cassie done fucked up.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Here's the thing. Did he going to be locked up possibly for a year or two? Okay, even though I thought he was going to get out, possibly immediately. I didn't really think that. I said by Christmas. I keep saying by Christmas. it's more than likely because I think this judge is a give and take judge.
Starting point is 00:10:37 He has to set a, you know, he can't be seen as the weak judge where because you beat a charge or two, you get a lenient sentence. You walk out of court with time served. Like it was a slap on the wrist. He's going to have to give Diddy a year in October. He's going to have to give him a year. or I think what he's going to do, he's going to try to give him two years. This is why.
Starting point is 00:11:06 It's really going to be like a year, but then Diddy go to a halfway house? He'll be back. But what it does for the judge is not make him look like a complete pussy. A guy who was starstruck, a guy who doesn't take crimes against women serious, a guy who sat through a very lengthy trial that was brought to you by the SDNY, and he saw the video that everybody's seen, and he still gave someone time service. So I think he's going to give him a year or two, honestly.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Okay? Did he'll still be out in a year, though, then he'll go to a halfway house because he usually go to a halfway house about like six months before. Here's my thing, and this is why I say Cassie, I think, fucked yourself. Did he's going to be out, he's going to be in the winds or out. out of commission for the next year or so, right? You know what the verdict read,
Starting point is 00:12:07 and I know there's a lot of people, you know, fuck all your tears, okay? We've been talking facts since the beginning. We're going to talk facts now. We ain't going to get emotional now. We were talking facts since the beginning. We're going to talk facts now. The reality of all of this is this.
Starting point is 00:12:24 The judge's verdict basically said, we not judge's verdict, the jury's verdict, means that they didn't find that any of the sexual behavior that was depicted in these freakoffs were non-consensual. They didn't find it was forced. They didn't find that no one was coerced or no one got frauded into doing these things. They said these were a bunch of hos and freaks
Starting point is 00:12:51 that did this on their own accord. Now, I'm going to tell you why this is important. Because while Diddy is going to be spending the next year or so, trying to get home, what it signals is that the only thing if no one was forced, and they have now proven that they don't believe Cassie or Jane was forced, the only people who could still claim that maybe they weren't with it are the sex workers. Because if you don't know count three and count five, count three says the transportation for the purpose of prostitution of,
Starting point is 00:13:31 of Cassie Ventura and others. The others were the prostitutes. She fucked. If she's a victim per that conviction, the prostitutes are a victim as well. Here's the problem. Cassie went on a stand and said she got $20 million. And she's, in the eyes of this criminal trial,
Starting point is 00:13:59 she was a prostitute or got prostituted, just like Jules, just like everybody else. Here's the reality of it, and we're going to see the video because somebody already started. You think all them sex workers going to sit by while Cassie gets $30 million
Starting point is 00:14:18 and they get nothing? They're all about us who Cassie and did he. Now that it is cleared Cassie of being able to say, I was coerced, I didn't do anything. Now, she could still say she's a victim because it says she got prostituted. But it doesn't say that she was an unwilling part She didn't get sex trafficked.
Starting point is 00:14:41 So her getting all that bread, the prostitutes got prostituted. It is more than likely that we will start seeing lawsuits against Cassie for the first time. And by the way, we have. I'll get to that later. Let me keep playing this alternate juror explanation of his perspective of the trial. How about with Jane? Obviously, she testified for several days, very emotional at times. What did you think of her credibility?
Starting point is 00:15:08 Did you believe her? I think we it was a very it was very um again riveting you know long testimony and um we we I think I think I mean I did I did believer at least on some parts some parts were a little bit um didn't didn't add up as much um it seemed a little strange to you oh is the Jane part the part the part Well, one part for me that seemed a little strange was the night, I think, when Jane was in, you know, when they had the fight. Yeah. It just, the timing seemed a little, like you're going from like one closet to another closet to, you know, it just something didn't, something didn't add up there.
Starting point is 00:16:02 How about the impact when you heard that her rent was being paid or her lawyer is being paid by the defendant? Did that surprise you? That was surprising, yeah, and it was still being paid. What did you think when you heard that? Wow, you know, wow, it was, it was surprising. I want to ask you as well about, I mean, obviously, I'm talking about Did He is, if I know him? Like, we know his name because he's, you know, this very famous person. Did the fact that he was so famous?
Starting point is 00:16:30 Did that impact you in any way? Did you know him? No, I did not know him. Do you know his music at all? No, I don't, I didn't really listen to his music. So seeing him was just a stranger? Pretty much. I mean, I know of him and I know, I know, but I didn't really follow his music or, or the rap industry in general.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So that might have been why I think, and I think a lot of the jurors, I think if you look at their backgrounds, I don't think they were, you know, they didn't know, they didn't follow this or that. I mean, that's probably why they were chosen. I was never expected to be chosen, to be honest. Yeah, well, man. I wasn't even looking for this at all. Who would be, right? But let me ask you, the other jurors, when you would talk to them, I know you weren't allowed to deliberate at all.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Emmy lifestyle, thinking for the five. It says happy fourth, chat. But when you talk to them, did they, would they familiar with who he was? Did his celebrity status seem to impact them at all? No. No, no, I don't think so. No. I think everyone was really waiting for the interpretation of the law. Is that because you were confused about the case or because you just wanted to know your mind? marching orders? I think we wanted to know our marching orders and how we need to look at everything. You know, I think we were really, I think, at least for me, we tried to want to be, and we are asked to be as impartial as possible. So we needed to know, you know, you hear both sides of, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:59 one side, the other side, and it's very important to know what we're actually supposed to be, you know, ruling at and how we're supposed to be looking at it from the judge. There was a jury. There was a juror who was excused close to the end of the trial. What did you know about that and why? We were told, you know, what happened. I mean, I think, I think someone maybe had, I think someone did, had mentioned that it was, I think he lied about where he was from or something like that. But really, we were kind of kept in, like, isolation from like the whole, like the whole day, not really told much, told to not, you know, follow any news or turn off everything. Don't talk to anyone. Don't talk among yourselves about the case, which we followed.
Starting point is 00:18:45 We really followed the judge's instructions, at least I did too. So when that person was longer in the chair after seeing them there for seven weeks on end or how many weeks it was in at that point, did you think it was odd? Did you have concerns? No. No. I mean, that's. That's why they have, they call 18 people because they knew it was a long case and there's probably going to be someone's going to get sick or someone's going to drop out. So that's why. Would you have wanted to hear Did he testify?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Would it have made a difference to you? I don't think so. No. I don't think so. It wouldn't have made a difference because he didn't, it wouldn't have added to your understanding or because you'd heard enough? I think we heard enough. I don't think, I don't know if it would have helped or hindered.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I haven't really thought about that as much. Yeah. But I think it was really helpful again in the end, at least for what we were looking forward to, what I was looking forward to the most was just the 61-page judge instructions of how we're supposed to be charged the law. They did find him guilty of those transportation to engage in prostitution charges. the prosecution was being very sarcastic and laughing at the idea that these men were just being paid for their time. How did you see that statement?
Starting point is 00:20:15 You mean the defense? Well, the prosecution said that, well, yes, you're right. The defense said that they were being paid for the time. The prosecution was mocking that. Who did you believe? No, I think the evidence to show that there was the transportation or prostitution, I think, was overwhelming. And that's why the jury found him guilty on those two. two counts. If you had been... Because the prosecution, not only they showed the hotel records,
Starting point is 00:20:43 the bank records, the flight information, for that, I think that they proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt. If for some reason you were to ever talk to Diddy, what would you tell them about how you saw this trial? To be honest, I really wouldn't want to... Okay, so he basically says he doesn't. So here's the interesting part check. Um, you know, it's one of them things were like, if you win the lottery, you rather not tell people you got the money because everybody comes out of the woodworks because they know you got money. So essentially what happened is that, yeah, everybody's like, yeah, Cassie deserved the 20 million.
Starting point is 00:21:21 She went through a lot. A lot of niggas peed in her mouth. A lot of niggas did this or her. She was fucking five guys a night. She deserves it because did he victimized her? He beat her ass, blah, blah. What this court case actually did. And, you know, going back to the conversation, if you guys watched when I was sitting with
Starting point is 00:21:37 Lauren Conlin. but also Unk. And they were debating, and, you know, the debate consistently for two nights in a row was, A, Cassie was not subpoena. She's here on her own recognizance. Now, the idea that Cassie was due to get $30 million, but she was testifying willingly,
Starting point is 00:21:58 seemed like, okay, no, she's just trying to get justice, except we forget the nature of the case. This was the case that a lot of people said initially when there was a leak of the hotel video, we said, maybe Cassie's team did it. Why? To prove and promote that she is not a co-conspirator. She was a victim.
Starting point is 00:22:21 And if we heard that Cassie was the one who majority paid these sex workers, she participated, she solicited them, she continued conversations with them outside of even that act behind her. back, it's probably feasible to be like, wait, both of these motherfuckers are actually co-conspirators, meaning Cassie and Diddy. Well, it's kind of come to pass at this point where Diddy's going to jail or he is in jail and he's going to stay in jail for a little bit longer, not too long, but a little bit longer. people who have realized this verdict has now said openly
Starting point is 00:23:03 Cassie is not a victim of sex trafficking she's not a victim of racketeering she's a victim of prostitution but so is all the sex workers and I think everybody who's a sex worker sitting back and saying why does Cassie get to bust down that $20 million by herself why I ain't getting a piece if I sue Diddy's going to take a long time until he's not locked up, I need to go get it from Cassie.
Starting point is 00:23:32 You get to realize what all of this really was. Some money grabbed from the beginning. The prostitutes just didn't know how they could have got their money. You know why? They were scared of prosecution because they're actually prostitutes. This decision has now opened Cassie to so much litigation
Starting point is 00:23:47 and this is why I have to say her attorney must have foresaw this and I wonder why the fuck would you put your client on stand willingly if now the jury doesn't agree with her stance as a victim of sex trafficking, they claim she's just a prostitute. Anyway, what happened was, and I'll-
Starting point is 00:24:12 Sorry, we're going to get to, this is a lawyer who did speak, but we want to get to a sex worker named Dave, who is suing. Dave sues Cassie. Sex worker named Dave, his real name, is Clayton Howard. He's actually suing Cassie and Diddy and he's saying, I got a STD from y'all. He says, y'all forced me to
Starting point is 00:24:35 fuck y'all raw. Well, fuck Cassie raw. Cassie gave me drugs. And basically said that he impregnated her and she aborted the pregnancy without telling him. He alleges they continue to have an unprotected sex for a while. And he feels like
Starting point is 00:24:50 he is a true victim, not Cassie herself. Okay? Apparently he wasn't called his witness, but he mentioned several times during the testimony in Diddy's, but he was mentioned several times during testimony in Diddy's trial, a federal agent testified that Clayton was staying at a four-season's hotel and had a flight from New York City to LA, all paid by Diddy. By the way, I don't know if you guys seen the press conference, the Shrewa Press Conference.
Starting point is 00:25:18 This was, I believe this is Tenne Garagos, and this is Westmaline. Agnes, he was in the background, and then we have Donaldson. here. Let me just play this real quick. And then we're going to play the sex worker who's now suing Cassie. And again, this is what money breeds. Cassie is going to see. And, you know, when you talk about karma, what money breeds is that Cassie in her mind, she's broke at the time when she files a lawsuit and Diddy's rich. She's the victim. She gets $20 million and she now puts a bat signal in the air for other people who never thought they were victims before. None of these sex workers
Starting point is 00:25:58 thought they were victims. But they're now down to sue her. Ain't it ironic. First want to thank my client, Sean Combs, for trusting us, myself and everybody here. This incredible... I believe this is Anna Esteveil.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I believe this is Alexander Shapiro. I believe this is Jason Driscoll. Big Brian Steele right here. We, of course, got Mark Ignifalo, Westmolin, and Xavier Donaldson. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, eight attorneys. Did he did not play.
Starting point is 00:26:35 He had four or five when he was spending one point two a month. I think by the time to end of that trial, he was spending near the three. Incredible dream team that he put together without him, we would not have been able to do this. He is incredible. I want to thank him. I want to thank the jury for putting such great care into this case. They came early every single day. And I want to thank them, as I said in my opening, standing between all of us and the drastic consequences of the criminal convictions of sex trafficking.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And Rico is a jury of our peers. And I, by the way, Borman Gaytay, he says, yo, act. Happy forth to the chat and act. Karma is a bitch. And Cassie's a rat. Word to Sean Jean. Thank them. I want to thank the judge.
Starting point is 00:27:25 And I want to thank, despite the terrible conditions at the MDC, I want to thank the good people who work there, who ensured that we had sufficient amount of time to prepare for trial. It is extremely difficult to prepare for a federal case in the conditions at the MDC, and they did everything they could to make that happen. I want to thank them. I also have been saying this since the beginning of this case. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Sean Combs has not sexually assaulted anybody. I've been saying this for months. We've said it with each lawsuit that came out, and today that was proven true. The media got it wrong about Sean Combs every single day for nearly two years. I ask that for every time you guys see a civil lawsuit, criminal complaints or criminal indictments,
Starting point is 00:28:18 you actually take a look and analyze these and see whether or not these are actually going to stand up in a court of law because today they did not he has not sexually assaulted anybody certainly hasn't sex trafficked anybody and the jury found that today thankfully thankfully in our country we have a Nicole you are a star girl you're a beautiful black queen who I'm glad you represent on the highest leveling was a standout um I hope you're rate triples and you were probably the hidden gem and the way you destroyed. I think Dawn,
Starting point is 00:28:59 Donne Rashad, you did that. I think you dealt with Banner in the same manner. I think you did Banner. But every time you popped up on that for Cross, you were fucking amazing. Hailing from, I believe, Fulton County. You know, Diddy took a lot of his lawyers from out of Fulton County.
Starting point is 00:29:20 you know, she was in the Yassel case. I hope this gives her the recognition she deserves and, you know, definitely needs. She's a star, 100% a star. A right to a jury trial. And thankfully, Mr. Cones took that right. He actually battled for his freedom, for his innocence, he did it. And a lot of times, you know, people are too afraid. to do it. And he did it and we're so happy that he did. We're proud of him. We are completely honored
Starting point is 00:29:57 that he put his faith and his trust and us to fight for him. Today is a major win to show what the system can do. We appreciate and we're so thankful to the jury. Thank you to the court. Thank you, New York. It's been a pleasure being here and fighting in your district. Thank you so much. And listen, we appreciate the media, we do. There was a lot of reporting on the accusations. There was a lot of reporting on the indictment. Please report just as vigorously on the acquittal of these counts. Please, because that's also the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Thank you. O'le. Okay, Nicole. All right. Yeah, so that happens. By the way, Mark Garragos with his daughter. tennie um really crazy so so cassie's now being sued and this is why i would say you know cassie kind of being seen as a remember cassie the charge that did he's convicted of
Starting point is 00:31:12 it's not only for cassie in terms of prostitution it's for the sex workers that were associated. Here's the thing. The majority of the sex workers never talked to Diddy. Diddy never spoke to them while they were in the room. They got the money from Cassie. They communicated with Cassie. Some of them had sex with Cassie outside the freak off. It was only about Cassie. So here's the thing. This guy who I thought he was capping because he was on the Tcha Kay Show. But he's the one, his name is Clayton. His name is Clayton. His escort name was Dave. He's been he's suing Cassie. He claims he caught STD from her. He claimed he got her pregnant and then she aborted it behind his back. He claimed that he was basically damn
Starting point is 00:32:01 they're sexually assaulted because they would do things he did not consent to. After following the lawsuit today, he chose to speak out. This is what he said. So good morning. I am Dave, the man who has just sued Cassandra Ventura for damages involved in the Sean Colm's sex trafficking trial. And I'm looking through social media and I see a lot of the women out there, particularly black women like myself, who choose to victim shame me and try to do everything they can to discredit me because the truth is that the loss of the Sean Combs trial was a loss to the Me Too movement and to hating women like the women who are trying to insult me. So let me tell you something, you women out there who would like to insult me. This is my story. I was paid by Cassie
Starting point is 00:32:44 Cassandra Ventura for eight years to be her male provider. I did. didn't have to be the best looking guy. I was the best in bed. And because I was the best in bed... Let me also say this. I think every escort's going to file a lawsuit. You see what happens with a criminal trial, they validate certain things. They validated all the escorts and the sex workers, including Cassie and Jane.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Cassie already got her money. Jane could claim that, you know, she didn't want to get prostituted. She could probably get some money there. But all of these escorts that supposedly work for cowboys and angels or whatever and their contracts that I only had to dance. But supposedly, you know, their story is going to be, you pressured me into a sexual situation. You and your boyfriend. Y'all forced me to do unprotected sex. You forced me to just sit around in isolation waiting for you guys.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Now force me. I mean, hey, again, remember, the veil of protection around Cassie has been lifted because a jury has now agreed she was not a victim in the sense of being forced. She's only a victim that she's actually not even really. She's just a prostitute or a sex worker. That's how they kind of claim it, right? Guess what? I was given this arrangement. I was coerced. I was drugged. I was manipulated with promises of money and gifts for over a period of eight years to continue to be this woman's provider at her expense and at the expense of Ditty. Now at the time, legally, I didn't know my rights as well as I do now. I didn't create this conflict with Cassandra Bentola. She created it with me. She's the one who decided to bring up things that happened over 10 to 15 years ago to hold Sean Combs accountable for what was a partial truth. She's the person who introduced
Starting point is 00:34:44 me to the U.S. Attorney's Office. She's the person who told the U.S. Attorney's Office about our relationship. So in essence, those out there who want to hate on me, who want to say that I'm attacking Cassie, you should realize the truth, that Cassandra Ventura, your idol, did this to herself. She exposed herself to liability. When she got on the stand and decided to mention me as the male escort who was with her when she overdosed and diddy made her have sex with him. That was a lie, people. Cassie had just woke up from sleeping eight hours. My and Sean Combs were exhausted, we wanted to go home. Cassie's the one who forced that sexual encounter. People, she tells you that Sean Combs made her have sex on her menstrual cycle. I can't
Starting point is 00:35:24 speak for anyone else but myself. But I know the one time that did happen that Sean Combs was not responsible for that Cassie, in a drunk and intoxicated, hormonally imbalanced state due to her period, manipulated and forced herself on me during her menstrual cycle. And what I mean by that is I had no knowledge she was on her menstrual cycle because the room was completely dark. She manipulated the room. She manipulated the environment to get what she wanted and then she totally got up like I was the one who should have been grateful. You're on your period. That's disgusting and I deserved more respect than that.
Starting point is 00:35:57 As a man, if I had laid down with a woman and forced myself on her and orgasm in her and she got up and it was leaking out of her, guess what? I would have raped her. So by statute, by case law definition, Cassandra Ventura sexually assaulted me. I'm not looking to destroy Cassie. I've given Cassie more than a year to settle this before things got out of control. The problem is that she's being supported by women like you who would choose to attack male victims instead of accept the truth, which is that a woman could have lied to get revenge on the ex-boyfriend who broke her heart and hurt her. It happens people.
Starting point is 00:36:29 They say hell have no fury like a woman's scorn, and that's true. If you hurt some women, they will do everything in their power. If you hurt some men, they'll do everything in their power to hurt you. but I want to end this by saying this. Cassie did this to herself. They say he who sets out on the course of revenge should dig two graves. People Cassie dug the grave that is Clayton Howard herself. Cassie got on the stand trying to destroy Diddy.
Starting point is 00:36:54 She should have took her $20, 30 million and walked into the sunset people. She should have never gotten on the stand and created further liability for herself by telling more of the lie that she created to get this man sent to prison for his life. She made a mistake when she got to understand people. She made a mistake when she... Yo, Nineberg and said, he got that famous Dex froth in his mouth, man. I believe this, nigga. Got him to stand and lied about the events with Clayton Howard.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Clayton Howard is a victim of Cassandra Ventura. Clayton Howard didn't ask to be in a relationship with Cassandra Ventura while she was sleeping with numerous men per week. I get it. You all think I was a nasty male prostitute sleeping with women, all different women all the time. It actually didn't work like that. to have certain types of people that can pay you that well,
Starting point is 00:37:40 what you really have to do is you have to focus on people who are affluent. And affluent people don't engage in activities like that. So I might have had a client once a month. The truth is I was only a male escort for two years. I continued in the profession because Cassie and Diddy continued to pay me very well. And I was an ex-con. Yeah, that's such making saying, you know, when you dig a wool, always dig two. I needed money.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I, yes, I was trapped in the situation. I'll admit that I didn't know what to do. But does that mean I should be victim shame? Because the same thing that happened to women all the time happened to me as a man? No. And for those women out there, for you black women who choose to shame me as a black man for telling my truth, you should be ashamed of yourself. That's probably pretty much all I have to say. You will not see me too much in the media. I don't need the public to believe me. I just need a jury of my peers and 12 people to believe me in the court. And thanks to the testimony of Cassie during the trial of Sean Combs, I have that. Thank you for watching. Stop victim shaman. Chat, I don't believe this thing of one bit.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Gotta be honest. I'm always honest. But listen, you know when they say the roosters have come home to roost or whatever? Or the chicken has come home to roost. Victim culture, look what you have created. This new woke culture that y'all have claimed is the ultimate form of the new civilization. unable to look people square in the eye and said, I'm not saying whatever you claim happened to you is right, but you need to take some fucking accountability.
Starting point is 00:39:17 We don't do that enough, people. We don't do that enough. When you're a woman, you could do anything. Accountability is at an all-time low. You could just come back and say, nah, he's sweet-talking. He promised to pay my rent. He promised to do this.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I was deserving of that. Oh, man, I think he puts, something in my drink. There's a million excuses to not have accountability. When you see it's as lucrative as $20 million, I mean shit. I can't blame this gentleman right here. And according to all the feminist victim community, he could be a victim too. None of this shit makes sense, chat. Cassie was getting millions and millions and millions of dollars, had three different apartments
Starting point is 00:40:08 at one time. She had two alone in LA, driving cars, jet setting. She didn't know what a commercial flight was unless they were going to Europe. She could have left. There's a conversation, I believe with Mia, where
Starting point is 00:40:26 they say, you got to get another guy. I'm going to hook you up with Michael B. Jordan. Before shit, she got to that. They said, why are you keep fucking with this nigga a puff. You know, she said, who else am I going to date? JZ got a girl? Who else am I going to date? She acted like it was two men in the entire world. Accountabilities at all time low. Accountability is at all time low. Of course, we saw a very nasty heinous video. Did he put in hands, feet, elbows? I think he gave her DDT. This shit was horrible. But what happened is that there's no accountability by nobody
Starting point is 00:41:01 in this case and now that the court has ruled that Cassie is not a victim of sex trafficking what about these men who feel like they were exposed they couldn't speak up because when they showed up to do this encounter that they felt they were financially
Starting point is 00:41:19 depending on they couldn't look at one of the niggies in the room who was behind the cuck chair at times that they were worried about their sexual health and the health of the other people they were dealing with they were told there's no condoms being used today. They were being forced to perform. I think that sounds like sex or forced labor. But here's the problem, and this is what I've always seen about this case.
Starting point is 00:41:47 It's impossible to separate the actions of Sean Holmes sexually from the actions of Jane Doe and Cassie Ventura. That's the problem. That's the problem. Sexually, they're all the same. Deviants. Now, if you want to get down in the weeds of why maybe Cassie would even indulge in this, maybe she just wanted to keep him close to her, whatever excuse you're going to tell me,
Starting point is 00:42:13 I'm going to say the same thing that I'm going to say to him. It's lack of accountability. This guy said he deals with high-profile clients. They pay more. They might mean to certain, certain stuff, but certain stuff usually they're not. He got paid a pretty penny to keep discreet. to do what he is told to do and probably to compromise some of his integrity and his boundaries. For example, if he's used to using protection in those situations, they wanted none of that.
Starting point is 00:42:47 He did it. Do you get what this is? And I don't know if this guy's a plan. You might be a plan, honestly. Might be a plan. because his job seems to only flip the mirror back on the people who were crying, kicking, and screaming about Cassie and how much she's a victim. And they're saying, well, we were the one who were contracted to dance
Starting point is 00:43:17 and then there was a switcheroo. And we were intimidated of Cassie and Diddy. And I think he told the story on Tasha Kaye said, yo, I'm arguing about her. She had me fuck her on a period of. he jumps in and I'm like I'm not trying to argue so it's almost like a pimp so again
Starting point is 00:43:34 chickens just come home to roost every escort that ever participated should be suing Diddy and Cassie or Diddy and Jane Doe Jane Doe going to get some bread but if you to escort
Starting point is 00:43:53 who says that your four hundred dollars or three thousand whatever you got paid to fuck why I got to stop there remember this is the victim culture everybody is loved I think they both line. And I would tell both of them get the fuck out of here. Cassie hit the road, Jack.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And I tell this bum-ass thing with a du rag, too. But according to y'all victim culture, they both deserve $20 million. Here's the thing. He no getting that $20 million nowadays from Diddy going to be much harder than if you try to get $2 million from Cassie. Let's see how it goes. Thank you. So good morning. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Also, also, the other guy who we, just talked to the alternate jury he did an interview with TMZ so this is the second interview they won't with CNN TMZ here watches an astroglyde and astrogly did you think the prosecution making a big deal of that um hurt their case i don't think so no i don't think i don't think i don't think it hurt their case they just presented they this is this is just the way that they wanted to present it it was that part was you know it was a good it was a nice humor injunction and you know I think the whole court left when when when he had said that it was hard to contain ourselves a little bit but I don't think it I don't think it hurt or
Starting point is 00:45:35 or helped their case but it was this evidence that they presented what was the evidence in your view I mean what was the point of it I think they wanted to show you know and also I think the defense just wanted to I mean sorry the prosecution wanted to you know to to, like, embarrasses is a bad word to use. I'm trying to think of a better word. But that's a question. Was it used to embarrass and to kind of paint him as a freaky guy? I mean, with a thousand bottles of baby oil.
Starting point is 00:46:16 What do you think? Because listen, you had to receive the information. What did you think was behind it? Was it too embarrassed? Was it to kind of paint him? that way or do you think it was relevant to the criminal charges? I think it was to prove something criminally because, I mean, if it was just too embarrassed, it wouldn't, because the prosecution's job was not to just embarrass and mock.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Or to make him look like a freak. Well, I mean, I think they did want to, you know, point, you wanted to, they wanted to paint him as, you know, a freaky, you know, head of basically an enterprise kind of a guy. this big like mob boss kind of thing with underlings that are just doing his job with oils and astroglyde. So I think they had wanted, but they presented it as evidence. But again, we looked at all the evidence equally. You know, whatever is presented to us, we, you know, we consider everything, you know, together based on the judge's instructions. Do you think that those videos, the freak off videos, prosecution, in showing
Starting point is 00:47:27 Cassie was doing it without her consent, where in your feud did it hurt because you felt she was into it and not kind of objecting. How did you view it? When looking at it, again, it varied in length and in some parts of it were, you know, it was just, you know, basically it was Cassie or Jane rubbing baby oil on an escort. And then some were more graphic with, you know, they were engaging in sex. So, and again, it wasn't, we didn't see the entirety of all the videos, but, you know, they showed different snippets. But from what I saw, from both sides that I saw, it all did seem consensual. It did nothing seem like it was forced. And I think, so yeah, let's leave it like that.
Starting point is 00:48:21 There has been criticism that prosecutors brought this case in the first, place, Mark Agnifalo actually told us in a documentary seven months ago that this was bedroom police, as he put it, going into Ditty's bedroom because they didn't like the way he had sex. I think that was in his opening argument, too. I think he said something to the like. I think he didn't because he wasn't given the opening argument, but I think I think the defense said something to that liking. But I'm sorry, sorry for interrupting you. But I think they did. No, no.
Starting point is 00:48:59 They did bring it up. What do you think of that argument? I mean, the charges that the prosecution put forward were very serious charges. So I don't think that they were just going after, you know, they were after him because of red bedroom talk. I don't think that. I mean, that's their argument. The government would, you know, countered that and said that he was, you know, a dangerous, you know, head of an enterprise, you know, and, you know. you know, forcing people to do, you know, various things.
Starting point is 00:49:32 So that was just his argument. All right. So, so this guy is confirmed to what we thought. You said the free call videos that were shown in court wasn't necessarily about actual sex. They showed a lot of before a lot of like maybe like B-roll stuff, not necessarily sex. It looks like the defense may have introduced a little bit more about sex to show that she is having fun. She's orgasm and she's having time of her life. The prosecutor was showing apparently the freakoff videos from an angle of this is how much control he had over this sexual situation.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And this woman didn't have any control and this amount of control in a sexual situation is almost tantamount to sex trafficking because she's not either capable or she can't. make her own decisions by all these other factors which would make his sex trafficking right okay um we got the sister of or not sister the one of the best friends of kim porter by the bianca leslie thinking from becoming a member kim porter friends lowanda actually said that ditty's kids didn't actually like jane do at all listen to this lowanda let me a second there we go now it's very interesting because there were so many people quiet about this case and some of them seemingly were friends with ditty but i guess maybe strategically it was like hey listen don't say anything about this case that they could be like oh this is coming from
Starting point is 00:51:19 associates of ditty but now that the case is pretty much concluded they're now speaking out and one is the friend of dittie's baby mama kim porter one of one of the case is One of her friends, or one of, you know, the late Kim Porter's best friends, is speaking out. Check this out. Seven weeks of brutal testimony. Yes. Life's most embarrassing moments, if you will. Yes. You have a unique insight on the women who testified against Sean Collins.
Starting point is 00:51:52 One of whom, Sean is still paying for her legal bills. Yeah. Tell us about each of the main players as you remember them. And what your takeaways are on Cassie? Jane Doe has, I knew her before. She knew Mr. Combs. And she really wanted this. She has caused a lot of ruckus in our lives in the past three years to where the kids didn't want her around.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Hmm. I feel like she is doing what she wanted to do to get what she wants. She has, like I'm going to say, he has tried to break up with her, and she has really flipped out and was very angry when he had a fourth child. And that really started a spiraling. And you're talking about Jane? Yes. And then there's Cassie, who was the first star witness.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Yes. Who has moved on with her life. Yes. And still said from the witness stand, she very much loved Sean Combs. Yeah. What do you make of Cassie's tale in the witness stand? I have had to deal with her for the whole time of the relationship because Kim, there's a picture of the three of them. Kim was still with him and she was four months pregnant with twins.
Starting point is 00:53:16 So there's a lot of things that weren't told and didn't come out in that, that my friend went through and the hurt that they, that she... I had no idea that Cassie was fucking with Diddy when Kim Porter was pregnant with twins. That's news to me. Caused, you know, I am very disappointed in a lot. She's very close to my kid, and I'm just very disappointed in things that she said because everybody had choices, and I lived it so nobody can sit there and tell me that nobody could have done this and nobody could have did this, I lived it.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Some people would say that the women are victims of a horrible man. Other people might say that these women quit up with horrible behavior because there was a payoff. How do you view it? I feel like this, especially with number two, who I was very, very close to. I feel that I'm not going to excuse the things that he has done that was wrong because those are issues that he needs to work on. But they also did things that were not right and a lot of things that were not told in court. Wow. Again, we are hearing people finally speak up and they are speaking up pretty loudly and basically saying, hey, listen, these women who you're hearing, they're not angels.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Like, we had to deal with them being homewreckers in the case of Cassie. Apparently, Kim Porter is pregnant with two ditties with the twins. And here come Cassie. You know, she's down to do whatever. She's an eater. You know what I mean? She's down to do a freak off. She's down to do this.
Starting point is 00:55:12 She's down to do that. You know, and it kind of colorizes a little bit differently because, you know, if you get a woman who comes into a man's life and they're down to, do whatever. Is this Fahim? This might be Fahim, right? I didn't know he showed up the last day. Fahim.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Yes, it is him. This is the guy who did not show up to testify. This is him. He's there the last day. Holding the umbrella over the kids. You could tell. He stands firmly with Puff.
Starting point is 00:55:53 I think he's owed a bag. Did he owes him some loyalty D-Rock 2 KK2 They never took the stand Never took the stand Innocent
Starting point is 00:56:04 They're exiting the main entrance From 287 It's all about the black excellence Excellent Now black excellence You're black excellence You're not
Starting point is 00:56:17 You're dead We're not We're not dead We're not dead Everybody Ms. Ms. Combs, how you feel wishes with y'all, Sister? Ms. Combs, how you feel this evening? Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Before we get to Cassie's lawyer, I wanted to show you all something. Something very interesting that I told you about. Remember I told you this chat? I hate to connect a couple of dots for y'all, but you know what me? As I said, there's an underground element of what's going on out here. Remember this girl? I'm going to refresh your memory, chat. This is a girl that Daphne Joy, who was 35.
Starting point is 00:57:30 or 37 at the time went off on on Diddy. Remember she eventually slammed his head into a thing and they started to physically fight. She called Diddy a pedophile. She said Diddy was with this woman right here. This is a woman that at the time
Starting point is 00:57:46 I believe she wasn't 19 actually. She was about close to 21. I think 20. But because Daphne's Joe was 35 Diddy fucking with her was a big thing. I think I've shown you video just to prove that she was cool with Diddy.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Let me go again. I'm going to show you, you know. I love to show my proof. Got to keep the proofs here. This is her. There. This is the picture she posted later or at a time. She said, more life.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Happy birthday to my twin flame. Diddy. Her twin flame. Okay. Daphne Joy, who was an agent, you know, agent LSW, whatever you want to think that means. It means.
Starting point is 00:58:33 was mad that Diddy was hanging out with this fly young ting. Okay, he was very upset. She was very upset, right? Now, you know what's interested about this, chat? Very interested about this. Other than the angle that this, we've seen this time and time again, the aging hoe gets mad at the new hoe, and she calls you a pedophile because you like a younger woman than her.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Because a lot of women feel like as they age, your preference and woman should always be their age. It's just not how it goes. A pedophiles only if you like prepubescent teens, which means you'll be like in children, right? This is a grown-ass woman even at the time. But I got something for you, Chad. You know if I'm bringing it back up, I got something for you.
Starting point is 00:59:22 So this is a woman, and I said, man, Diddy had him good, huh? Diddy was banging her out? He was banging out Jade Ramey. She's a fine specimen. Did he had it all? He had it all. He was banging Shorty out too. Like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Like, Daddy was having it his way. Now, let me go back to this girl right here. You want to know why she's interesting, chat? You want to know why she's interested? And let's see if y'all connect the dots here. And let me, and if y'all are mind-blown, what I say next, if y'all are mind-blown about what I say next, spam the mind-blown emoji.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Or if you knew, just hit me. to still face. Remember, this is who Daphne Joy tried to fight Ditty over and called him a pedophile. Look at this math right here. Kanye West, balcony
Starting point is 01:00:18 mystery woman. Now, chat, what we're going to figure out is how come we keep seeing the same women with some of the same dudes? Don't believe me. Don't believe me. That picture might be bad. Just go to Reddit. They have it all. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Kanye was with Julia Fox at the time. He was seen with two different women and he was supposedly rumored to be having a threesome. Or now you could think what that is. Everyone, if you go look, this is four years ago. Four years ago, look, look. Because somebody's going to ask, who is this? Who is that girl?
Starting point is 01:01:05 Watch, you'll figure it out. Figure it out. Maybe they don't say it there. someone said it like I've figured it out she was the same woman on the balcony chat she was the same woman on the balcony
Starting point is 01:01:29 I think you got to go to some of these actually I can just put in her name I'll put her name it's the same woman on the balcony now let me ask you out a question without asking it chat Daphne Joy goes to
Starting point is 01:01:54 Kanye West freak off and Diddy is messing with a new girl that Ye just had a threesome with all in the same six, seven months. Is it possible that both of them are... That's my partner over here. All right, you almost send you a bitch,
Starting point is 01:02:15 you send me a bitch. This is like trading Pokemon cards. Somebody said they're escorts. That's too simple of an answer. Didi, Ye are into a certain type of sexual lifestyle. They're trading women. Do I got to spell it out even more? You don't get it?
Starting point is 01:02:43 If you look at it in isolation, why the hell is Daphne-Joy at Kanye West's freak-off? Wait, Kanye West is doing freak-offs? Sounds crazy. Remember, they also have a nickname for him. Why is there a nickname? Why is Kanye being called Bear? Why did Kanye send $9,000?
Starting point is 01:03:05 Why is a woman that we see Kanye, remember, remember Jane Doe is during this time, 2022. Why is a woman that Kanye West popped out on a balcony with when he popped out with two of them? Why is that woman now with Diddy
Starting point is 01:03:23 couple months later saying my twin flame? You don't think they were just competing for women, right? Maybe they're in the same type of that know the women who do this. They pass along other women.
Starting point is 01:03:40 was asked to Jane Doe when she went to that Vegas thing. They said to Jane Do you know any other people we could bring into this? She says, yeah, I do know a, I know a guy. Anton. No, it wasn't Anton. She was talking about Cabral, I believe. Ain't that ironic? I've never seen this woman with anybody else.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I see her with Diddy and with Yay. Fucking ironic, huh? Yeah. So this is, if you look, this is on. Kanye to the They're gonna, yep Mm-hmm Yeah
Starting point is 01:04:40 This is her Interesting Feels like Ye and Ditty Were more than Eskimo brothers, right? Yeah, Chad, you know I'm investigating All this. So, chat,
Starting point is 01:04:56 You want to bet if I go down The Rabbit Hole Anton had sex in Diddy freakoffs And allegedly had sex In Yee freakoffs. is that a coincidence one guy
Starting point is 01:05:16 is having sex in Diddy freak and he has sex in Yay freakoffs but a girl who calls Diddy her twin flame
Starting point is 01:05:30 is seen on a balcony after a purported three-sum or some sexual experience in a hotel with yay maybe's coincidence right maybe Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:06:07 So I believe this is her. This one, I don't know who this is, right? This isn't the, the, the, the, Aaliana girl, right? Right? No, I think it's this one. I wonder who she is. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Interesting. Interesting. Julia Fox. Julia Fox is opening up about her past, include. Let me not see. say what I think. Ye was supposedly with her at this time.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Reflecting on her brief relationship with Connie. While Ye was doing all of this with other women, two chicks in a hotel. In an interview with UK's The Sunday Times, the uncut gem star admitted that she regrets her relationship with the artist. I regret that relationship so much. I hate it.
Starting point is 01:07:41 It was only a few weeks, but enough to last me a lifetime. I was in probably the most uncomfortable position in my life, and that's saying a long. I don't want to be known for being anyone's girlfriend, she told the outlet. The TV host also noted that Kanye was insistent on showing off their relationship, which made her suspect that he was trying to get under the skin of his ex-wife Kim Kardashian. It wasn't my idea for it to go public.
Starting point is 01:08:04 If anything, I was like, we should wait and then boom. It was done behind my back. I realized pretty quickly I was being used as a pawn. The outlet noted claims that Julie had previously revealed in her memoir, Down the Drain, which was released in 2023, such as that Kanye would send a stylist to dress her in an outfit that he had pre-approved, that during one of their beginning dates, a photographer was also present, and that the rapper had sent pictures of the two of them together to interview magazine's editor,
Starting point is 01:08:31 asking her to tell them how they met, and changing her text when he didn't like what she wrote. Julia also spoke about her son's impact. I really credit my son for being my grounding force. It was like, I can't go down the spiral because no man, no matter how rich or famous, is worth one minute away from my child. She then reflected about that time in her life. I'm not about to hold a grudge and make my life miserable because I'm still angry about something.
Starting point is 01:08:54 At some point, you have to forgive and move on because you think you're... Since Kanye wanted you to sign an NDA when the two of you are dating, did you hear from him or anyone on his team before releasing your memoir? Oh, good question. You did not. No. I mean, you haven't heard from any of them now. No. Okay. Thank you, virtual fans.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Julia, you write about this in the book. Susanna Breslin wants to know during your time as a dominatrix, what was the number one thing you learned about men? Um, that of Julia. And yes, while she doesn't name names, she does talk about some of her very public relationships, including the one with the man she calls the artist. I have to ask you about Kanye. Yeah. It's a pretty short part of the book. How do you feel about all the attention that relationship got? I mean, obviously, I knew I would get some attention, but I didn't even have the, like, scope to fully understand, you know, like how big of a star he was. Fox and Kanye West were very briefly linked in the beginning of 2022 after she separated from her ex as he was divorcing from Kim Kardashian.
Starting point is 01:10:13 But it wasn't like a grab for attention. No. Yourself going forward. I hope. Interesting. in. Anyway, we'll piece that together another time. I've learned a lot. We'll piece it together another time. Cassie's lawyer, Douglas Wigder, is now speaking up about the verdict and his reaction to it. You were inside of that courtroom when this verdict was read. This has been something
Starting point is 01:10:43 that you have been representing Cassie Ventura for for well over a year. A lot at stake here. Yes, for Sean Combs, but for Cassie Ventura. What were you feeling when you were inside that courtroom? Well, I think there was a lot of mixed emotions in the courtroom, generally speaking. Obviously, we would have liked to have seen convictions on the RICO charges and the sex trafficking charges, but Cassie prompted this investigation by the Southern District, and now Sean Combs stands before the court as a convicted felon of two federal crimes. He faces significant incarceration. Not the exact outcome that we wanted, but we are grateful to the jury for finding a guilty verdict on those two federal crimes. I want to get back to what you were just
Starting point is 01:11:34 talking about. But first, I have to ask you, have you had the chance to speak with Cassie? I have. Yeah. So I had an opportunity to speak with her, as did the government prosecution team. She's of the same view. She, you know, back in November of 2003, 23, Cassie had a choice. She could accept an eight-figure settlement offer and move on with her life and sign non-disclosure agreements, or she could file a civil lawsuit and hold Sean Combs responsible for what he did to her and shine a light on his behavior. She showed great courage, great bravery, to choose the latter of those two options. She turned away the money at first. Ultimately, the case settled the day after. And, you know, she went through a year. year-long process of preparing for this trial. I thought, and I think people who saw her testify, she was a great witness, she was graceful, she shined a light on this. Jane read the complaint. She came forward. Many other people have come forward are going to be seeking to hold Sean Combs responsible in the civil courts. And so it's not all lost. He's now, as I said,
Starting point is 01:12:42 he's never been held responsible for anything in his lifetime. He was acquitted on charges when he was in New York with a gun case. And now he is a two-time convicted felon, two federal charges. The government indicated after the jury verdict was read that they're going to be seeking consecutive terms and they're going to be seeking lengthy prison incarceration. And so Cassie was comforted in knowing that not only has she played a role in the criminal prosecution, but that she has shined light on this behavior by Sean Combs and many other people have come forward, not only about him, but about other people in the entertainment world as well. Now, I want to go back to something you said, which is when she filed that civil suit in November
Starting point is 01:13:27 23, that this is really what started at all. And it really is in the civil sense, but also in the criminal sense. In this trial, and I was in the courtroom for most of the days, we heard both the defense and the prosecution say that this investigation, this federal investigation, began because of Cassie Ventura, how does that weigh on her to realize that Sean Combs would not have even been in a courtroom, if not for her? Well, I think it's given her some agency in life where for 10 years he told her what had to be done and she had no choice. This was her ability to say no, I'm not going to accept this eight-figure settlement,
Starting point is 01:14:10 I'm going to file this lawsuit. And that's what she did. And so she is really gratified in knowing that other people have come out since the filing of the civil lawsuit and that you're correct, as far as I know, there was no pending investigation into Sean Combs prior to her filing a civil lawsuit. We were contacted very soon after we filed, and this investigation ensued. And the team, the prosecution team, I thought, did an excellent job. Again, not the outcome, I'm sure, that they wanted.
Starting point is 01:14:47 They didn't get the top counts, but they at least were able to secure two convictions of two federal felony charges. Now, you mention the settlement, which, as you are saying right here, that Cassie had two choices, which was take the money, sign an NDA, or file a civil suit. She chose to file the civil suit. Now, she did reach a settlement within 24 hours. It was very quick. But this was after she filed the civil suit, after all of her bombshell allegations were out of the world. And yet, in this trial, the defense seized on money, not just for Cassie, but also for Jane.
Starting point is 01:15:24 The defense, and this is not a direct quote, I'm summarizing, but Mark Agnifalo in his closing, he said, Cassie Ventura is the winner here. He called her the winner. He said she's sitting somewhere in the world with $30 million. She's not naive, like the prosecutors are telling you. she knew exactly what she was doing and she's the winner. How did that make you feel and her feel to use the word winner when the jury and the world, by the way,
Starting point is 01:15:50 has seen her being horrifically beaten on camera? Yeah, I mean, thanks to your great reporting and the video that saw the light of day. Obviously, Cassie Ventura at that point in time and today is not the winner. You know, she endured 10 years of abuse where she had to engage in days long sexual acts with UTIs. She alleged that she was raped. And so to call her a winner, even though she did get $30 million, part from, as she testified, part from Sean Combs, part from the hotel,
Starting point is 01:16:32 no amount of money is going to ever undo what she had to endure. and what she had to go through. So I think both she and I didn't really take well to that as her being a winner. And frankly, the fact of the matter is that when she testified, she had already been paid the $30 million. So she really had no vested interest in anything other than telling the truth on that witness stand. And while the jury did not convict on the sex trafficking charge, I mean, I think it's important. for your viewers to know, in the criminal justice system, the standard is very high.
Starting point is 01:17:11 It's beyond a reasonable doubt. The civil justice system is very different. It's a preponderance of the evidence, more likely than not. So it is a very high burden. The jury found that the government did not meet that burden, but that doesn't mean that what she said isn't true. Now, his defense during their closing also called Cassie and Combs' relationship,
Starting point is 01:17:35 And again, this is not a direct quote, but a great modern love story. How did she feel when she heard that? And I'm curious, has she been following all of the testimony? Because she was one of the first witnesses. She was on the stand for four days talking about what she says happened to her. Cassie, as we all know, is now a new mother of three. She was on that witness stand when she was very pregnant, eight and a half months pregnant. Has she just been focused on family?
Starting point is 01:18:04 or has she been following this and how difficult has it been if she has been following? Yeah, so, I mean, she is primarily and has been focused on her family. She did testify when she was eight months pregnant, and she is really trying to look forward. And when I gave my statement after her testimony, I made very clear that she was looking forward. She did not want to think about the case any longer. she had given her testimony and now wanted to just concentrate on her family. And she's done that. I mean, obviously it's almost impossible not to see some of the media about the case.
Starting point is 01:18:42 And so she has seen some of that. You know, I can tell you that some of the comments that were made in the closing argument, I thought were repugnant, frankly, calling those sorts of behaviors as a modern day relationship, you know, saying that she enjoyed sex. you know, saying she was a gangster, things like that. I don't think even with the jury verdict that they would have given that any credit. And I don't think anyone who actually listened to the testimony and watched the testimony would either. And I thought that those were sort of gratuitous comments that really weren't based on any real fact.
Starting point is 01:19:19 After Cassie filed her civil lawsuit in November 2023, since there has been roughly 70, that's 7-0 suits that have been filed against Sean Combs. denies all of these allegations, but the allegations coming from women, men, minors over the course of decades, egregious accusations of people being drugged at auditions, being drugged at his infamous white parties, not remembering a single thing after they were handed a drink and then being sexually assaulted. Given that none of these suits had come out prior to Cassie filing that lawsuit, does she feel like she has made a difference and like she is shining a light on not just the abuse that she alleged of Sean Combs, but for survivors around the world. Yeah, definitely. And that was one of her major objectives, frankly, when she rejected an eight-figure settlement was not only to shine a
Starting point is 01:20:17 light, but to give a voice to others who were suffering in silence. And she knew that there were others out there. And so to now see, as reported, you know, numbers in the 50, 60, 70, or more allegations or lawsuits, I think that she's been vindicated in what she did. So many people would never have chosen that path. You know, if you've got two paths, one is to take an eight-figure settlement and move on with your life versus taking the other path of rejecting it, and you might not see a penny, but you actually get to go public and shine a light on what happened and maybe others come forward, she should really be applauded for what she did. And as I said, the National Domestic Violence Hotline, I had asked them for some reporting
Starting point is 01:21:09 if they had seen an influx of calls after Cassie came forward. And they had, the numbers really spiked. She spoke directly to survivors of domestic violence. when she posted on her Instagram, she thanked everyone, and she said that domestic violence is the problem. Has she been hearing from different survivors ever since she came forward? A lot of the different organizations that support survivors have reached out to her and to us
Starting point is 01:21:41 because she is really, you know, not the official spokesperson, but what she did was so brave and courageous. And so people see that, and, you know, they have shown fortitude and coming forward as well. I can tell you anecdotally as well, just that my law firm, which handles many of these cases, has seen a great increase in the number of cases since she came forward because other people, women primarily feel empowered that if Cassie can do this, I can do it as well. And so, you know, my hat really goes out to her.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I'm really proud to be her lawyer. There aren't many clients like her. Now, when our team at CNN released that hotel surveillance footage, I had reached out to you for comment, which is a common practice in journalism, and you gave us a statement that we used in our report. But I've never been able to ask you a question, which I am curious. Had Cassie ever seen that video before our team aired it? She had it, but we had described it in the complaint, and so when the video came out,
Starting point is 01:22:49 you know, corroborated everything that she said. She had heard that a video was out there. She wasn't sure exactly what had happened with it, but she had never actually seen it. But it really, when we saw it, and we looked back at the complaint, you know, it really, again, it was just amazing to see how it corroborated everything that she had said in that civil complaint. So everything in her civil complaint was from her memory.
Starting point is 01:23:16 It was her experience, and she had told you that. That's right. But she had not seen it. What was it like for her to see it? And I recognize that as I'm asking you this, it was our network that aired it, but to see it in such a public way and suddenly of this very private moment out there,
Starting point is 01:23:34 what was that like for her? I think it was very disturbing for her. Again, she never and she never will get over the treatment that she suffered. If we didn't have that video, I'm sure Sean Combs would have denied that there was any physical incident at the hotel on that day. If she didn't have the pictures and photographs of other incidents,
Starting point is 01:23:57 he would have denied those as well. And so obviously the video shows what he did. The, you know, her views and the general public views, I think uniformly were disgusted by what was on that. What do you think happens next with all of these civil suits? Of course, you do not represent all of them, But now that Sean Coecee has been convicted, he is a criminal now. He was found by a jury to have committed two federal crimes.
Starting point is 01:24:29 But as you said, not the outcome that you were necessarily hoping for. Do you believe that these civil accusers will be scared because he won't be serving life in prison? Or do you believe that they will still be emboldened to pursue their claims against him? Well, I think from a plaintiff's lawyer's perspective, they're probably, happy, frankly, that he's not going to be in jail because he'll have his assets and he'll be able, they'll be able to take his deposition, they'll be able to participate in discovery. You know, if he were in jail, sort of like Harvey Weinstein, those cases have been difficult to get any compensation for, given his situation.
Starting point is 01:25:12 If he had been convicted on Rico, there may have been asset forfeiture along with that as well. So, you know, just from a practical standpoint, not a bad thing for those civil cases. And even if he had been convicted of RICO and or sex trafficking, that wouldn't have necessarily have helped those other plaintiffs because most likely that that sort of evidence would have been excluded from those civil trials anyway. So, you know, net net, I don't think there's really – it might even be a positive, frankly, for those other civil lawsuits. I can't really comment on the strength of those lawsuits.
Starting point is 01:25:49 We only have one of them actually pending, but I hope that the ones that are valid all succeed. And will you be pursuing that one client's claim? For sure. So interesting to hear that perspective. And of course, you represented victims of Harvey Weinstein as well. Now, you're also a former prosecutor. So what do you think we're looking at here?
Starting point is 01:26:14 for sentencing when it comes to these two convictions. Each carry a maximum term of 10 years. The prosecutors have said that they will be pursuing these 20 years to be served consecutively. What do you think is realistic? I don't think that I'm really the person that would be as qualified to answer that question, but I know the government feels strongly
Starting point is 01:26:40 about seeking whatever maximum term that they can. do under not only the federal laws but also the sentencing guidelines and in addition that they feel that some of the other non-acquitted facts that sort of go to bolster their position that he should be sentenced to maximum or consecutive terms that they will pursue all of those avenues to the extent that they can do so in a illegal and plausible way and so it It would be hard for me to ultimately guess, but I would say this. He definitely faces a substantial prison term, and I do believe he's going to be serving
Starting point is 01:27:26 years, plural. It would be very difficult for me to gauge how many years, though. Cassie took the stand for four days, and she testified about what, quite frankly, are some of the most embarrassing and traumatic moments. of her life, things that she may have wanted to go to the grave with, had it not been for testifying in this trial. How difficult was that for her, or was it cathartic in some sense? I think it was both.
Starting point is 01:28:01 It was both, it was very difficult, and it was cathartic. You know, if you were in the courtroom and you observed her, I mean, she just answered the questions, I thought, and very graceful, and I think, I think I'm trying to speak as objectively as possible, I thought, in a forthright manner. I don't believe that the jury disbelieved her in reaching its conclusion. I think the jury ultimately found that the government hadn't met its burden beyond a reasonable doubt under a very complex and difficult statute.
Starting point is 01:28:36 And, you know, when you think of sex trafficking, sometimes, you know, people conjure images of, you know, minors and, you know, bringing people in from other countries and things like that and not this sort of behavior, which technically, you know, could be argued as sex trafficking. But I think that she, when she filed the civil complaint, she, you know, knew that a lot of this would become public. She didn't know at the time. Aye, Douglas. I hate my boy.
Starting point is 01:29:05 The chef that supposedly claimed that she used to have to serve diddy food during the freakoffs, she was said to be testified. fine, but she never took the stand. Now she's speaking out. Like, everybody's speaking out after the trial. What the fuck? As one of the actual minor, minor victims to Sean Combs' physical assault while I was employed by him, as someone who was a witness to the abuse towards Cassandra Ventura fine during my time of working for Sean Combs. I would just like to say that this is a grave miscarriage of justice and I would like to also address that last year on March 20th I was contacted by the federal government. They showed up at
Starting point is 01:30:11 my door with badges. I refused to speak to them because I was terrified. So I was served with a grand jury subpoena that day before they left my home in Atlanta, Georgia. I confided in three different people about that visit from the feds. Terrified is that. actually an understatement. By April 11th of 2024, I was being contacted by Sean Combs, initial lawyer, Aaron Dyer. I have a voicemail that he left and text messages stating that Mr. Combs was aware of the visit from the government and that they, would like to extend to cover my legal fees. These are facts. This, in my opinion, was witness tampering. I was supposed to testify this year on May 20th. I was in New York. It was announced.
Starting point is 01:31:44 And I was pulled because I flipped out on the government. These are also facts. I want to be very clear as a victim, as a former employee of Sean Combs. I do not feel safe. I am extremely traumatized. I do not know where to go from here. I did submit my own letter to the judge. I stand by everything that I said.
Starting point is 01:32:23 I knew that he beat Cassie Ventura fine in 2009. I know that she was dragged from the vehicle. Okay? I know that I saw her two days later at the London Hotel when me and one of his assistants brought her a bag. Okay. This was a miscarriage of justice. And beyond any of this,
Starting point is 01:32:54 I don't really have anything more to say. And I really don't know where to go from here. Just know that I am terrified and I am traumatized. And it's honestly, fuck him. Well, damn. now she claims she was down to testify they didn't give her an opportunity to testify um so she's getting on social media let it be known what she thinks about this the um the majority of people are still like responding and you know kind of we're still getting
Starting point is 01:33:36 response it's kind of like mixed some people are like whatever some people are like nah this is what should have happened um really quick I think Drake dropping something tonight? I think he's going to be late though. What's a beautiful girl? Yeah, so Drake has announced that it's on the way. Okay, 9 p.m. Now, hey, when they say 9 p.m.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Does he mean 9 p.m. in Toronto, 9 p.m. in New York. 9 p.m. in Lagos, 9 p.m. in Antarctica. 9 p.m. in Hawaii. we don't know the time slot, but Drake is saying 9 p.m. Now, I don't know what it is. And I actually was about to hit Drake and say, yo, Drake, what I'll tell you about dropping new music and not giving me the heads up? But I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Because I, you know, there's a group of Drake fans out there who lack accountability. And every time Drake do something, they just blame me for it. I actually do want to be surprised when new shit or Drake comes out. So, yeah, I'm not even going to ask him about it. Hopefully it's music. I didn't talk to me about music recently. I talked about some other shit. Hopefully it's music and hopefully he's good, you know?
Starting point is 01:35:07 I don't know if this is the rollout of this, like, Legend Project Iceman. I don't know. Again, I haven't talked to him about music. Last thing he told me about music was, dog, he said, yo, my talk soon come. I'm like, all right, that's all I needed to hear. That's all I needed to hear. My talk soon come, act.
Starting point is 01:35:29 Okay, all right, say less then. So I'm going to do with all those Drake fans because anytime they get mad and they can't blame Drake, they try blame me, I'm not asking Drake by the motherfucking music. Whether he leaked something or whatever. Actually, I did ask him for the leak, but whatever. Like his actual album, you know, because, some people actually believe that, you know, it takes the air out of the music when
Starting point is 01:35:55 Act gets online and be like, nah, the song goes like this and no, nigger, I'm just like, yeah, again, if it's good, it's good, if it's not, it's not. So we will see. But apparently he's dropping something. I would imagine his music. From what I'm hearing, people are saying that Millie Mall had tweeted some stuff out that kind of matches this. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:18 I really just don't fucking know. And I want to be pleasantly surprised. Now, let me tell you what pleasantly surprised means. We need a rap track by Drake. Now, I'm going to keep it being with you. I never liked the first. Was God's playing the first single off of Scorpion? Anytime Drake drops a single, like, oh, this is the beginning of the rollout type of shit.
Starting point is 01:36:42 I never like it. I always hate, you know that song? But it's over. and his own i always hated that song that's so he had dropped i think four album did he drop six god the song six god i hated that song like but i don't think that was the first song for um take care what was the first single for take care maybe it was headlines was lit i might be too soon confidence over those yeah yeah that was lit so i don't know i don't know if he's doing singles i don't know if he's just dropping something.
Starting point is 01:37:16 You know, I'm always happy if he's dropping music, period. I don't think we need to drop, like, warm-up singles these days. I hope whatever song he's dropping is just fire. So, again, I want to hear some rap. It doesn't have to be a timestamp record, something with a dope hook. And I'm not going to lie, I think Drake's been on a good run right now. He's been on a good run. As long as this is not like a miss.
Starting point is 01:37:42 As long as it's not a miss is good, because, I'm going to be honest with, I think Drake's been on a good run with some sexy songs for you. Everybody's been liking that album. He don't got to do too much. And here's the thing, too. You don't have to rush music out. Your ops drop music every once in the three years, bro.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Like, you have one of the hottest albums out this year. Just make sure your next move is your best move, right? So I'm down to see what it is, but I couldn't tell you what it would be. But 9 o'clock is coming. 9 o'clock. 9 o'clock. I'm hearing titles, something called
Starting point is 01:38:17 What Did I Miss? I don't know. Again, honestly, I haven't asked him. I'm going to play the fan on this one. I could ask him, which I know I could ask him. By the way, why don't you tell me Rumble wasn't on? Rumble was off for the whole fucking stream.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Rumble was off for the whole damn stream, but it's on now. Okay. Oh, boy. Okay. So yeah, I really don't know what it is. I see people taking the opportunity to already title it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:01 I'm hoping it comes out officially on DSPs. The fact that it's coming out on a Friday at 9 p.m. It might be just a freestyle. It might be on SoundCloud. It might be, you know, anytime Drake promises a DSP, by the way, we're going to stay on until 9. So it's an hour and a half. We'll stay on.
Starting point is 01:39:19 But if it don't drop in 9, I'm getting off immediately. I'm not waiting a second. because Drake and DSPs on Drake will be like Yo, it's coming out at midnight You stay up until midnight Nah, it's coming at three You're like, okay, I'm at three
Starting point is 01:39:34 Nah, nah, it's six bro, six Nah, it just strings you along So I'm gonna see what it is But I'm interested to see if this is Gonna be dropped via DSPs Because why not just drop it Why not just drop it At midnight last night
Starting point is 01:39:49 Right? Last night didn't really have no big release This young boy moved off of the date. Shout to young boy. You know? I was actually supposed to link with my boy yesterday. He was in New York, but he had to dip out to Amsterdam. I don't know what's out there.
Starting point is 01:40:03 But yeah, so he moved his date back, I think, to like the 25th of something of this month. So last night it was kind of like an open in terms of bigger artist dropping some shit. I don't think Drake would have had no competition. So this is what makes me think, is he dropping via DSPs? Because why not drop last night? Right? Now, granted, I keep telling you, I hear it's a really interesting and ongoing situation with him and his label. They don't like him.
Starting point is 01:40:31 He don't like them. But of course, they'll still put his music out. Like, everybody's still doing business. But it's one of those things where he don't consult with the label, which he kind of hasn't done for a long time. So I wonder if, you know, he's just telling them, shut the fuck up. I'll turn my music in whatever. Just drop it when I say so. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:40:49 Who knows? But 9 p.m. That's what we're getting. 9 p.m. It is definitely amazing and really inspirational that Drake could announce new music. Damn, near 15 years from when he kind of popped off, and we still give a fuck that much. We have to applaud him for that.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Like, we care so much, and it's not his first rodeo. This guy's been around forever, but, you know, goes to show his dominance, you know. Does anyone have a snippet of the song? No, no, I don't want to hear those things. I've never heard of somebody. Anyway. And that the government would investigate it,
Starting point is 01:41:35 but as that process and her preparations for trial ensued, she knew that she would be asked some very personal, detailed questions that she was prepared to do. She knew that she had to do it because she was vested in the process, and she put a lot of time and effort into it. Was there ever a consideration that she wouldn't do this? When the government began investigating her claims and asked her to testify, did she ever say, I just, I don't want to put myself?
Starting point is 01:42:07 There were a lot of times, yeah, Elizabeth. I mean, I think that there were, it was a roller coaster at times. There were certainly days where she didn't want to testify. That's natural. I mean, it's a lot that the government was asking of her, and she ultimately did what they wanted her to do. She testified truthfully, but just having to subject yourself to cross-examination, and ultimately, when you're done, have a lawyer say the sorts of things that were said in the closing argument about her.
Starting point is 01:42:42 That's not easy for anyone to endure, which is why I hold her in such just high esteem. All right, he's just chatting. Okay. Let me see. What else is going on? Let's kind of look through some hip-hop topics. Let's go. Yeah, we're kind of getting, you know, this is like the post-game press conference for the Diddy stuff. We're not going to be doing Diddy this entire time.
Starting point is 01:43:05 Torley's father says he'll be coming home very soon. Their movements happening in the background, new evidence. He'll be home sooner, you think. I wonder if at this point this is like propaganda. I love Tori. There's nothing that suggests he's coming home soon. Like, I hate to even say it, bro. But, like, it probably encourages people, right?
Starting point is 01:43:24 It's like when Dirk was saying, Rondo is coming home in Christmas, you're like, niggas been 10 Christmases. What's up? You know, fans should have some hope, but, you know, there's a couple key decisions that are waiting.
Starting point is 01:43:43 If they go his way, yes, he will be coming home. But, you know, still, you know, I've given my score of what I think those, his chances are for those. It's not overwhelming. so you know to say he's definitely coming home i wouldn't say that but there is paths a pathway for him to come home so we'll see man tory keep your head i know you you know you're still recovering a bit
Starting point is 01:44:06 but you know everybody out here loves you man um okay what else is going on there's a robot in the hood what the hell is spotted on the seven mile in detroit wait are these are these robots like Remote controlled? Oh, they're doing a video. Yeah, they're doing cameras and shit. Yeah, yeah. Wait, is there a remote that controls this thing? Or is it just straight up AI?
Starting point is 01:44:53 He's waving. They said a robot's already on crack, man. Detroit. Y'all went to Detroit. Love Detroit, but I'm not going to lie, man. A city that means, like, an overall makeover. Like, downtown is, like, real beautiful. Like, you go, like, three blocks.
Starting point is 01:45:12 You're like, what the hell? you wonder if you're sold in America I ain't gonna cap with you An anonymous person who made 7,800 investment in Bitcoin in 2011 just touched their wallet for the first time in 14 years Oh wow Shit
Starting point is 01:45:31 Okay That nigga body'll be tricking like a motherfucker So young boy fans are pissed He pushed the album back to the 25th YB fans chill out man He got a lot going on He got a head on his shoulders Um he's sober
Starting point is 01:45:48 He's trying to give you out of the right music, the right collabs. He's trying to make sure it's right. He's not half-ass in it. Like the previous version of young boy would have just said, fuck it. It's out. It's out.
Starting point is 01:46:01 He wants to do a proper rollout. He wants to do shit associated with it. Yeah, yo, let me tell y'all this about fans. Y'all can't not want y'all go to be goaded, right? Like, you want him to give half-ass effort, just send out a tweet and do an Instagram live for 20 minutes,
Starting point is 01:46:18 and that's the promo, or do you want him to, like, do it the right way? If he got some good music, he's finally sober, he got a story to tell. Hey, you know, like, he was shooting a lot of videos. Time kind of came up when the album's going to drop. He pushed it back. It's all good. It's all good. He's not doing the Cardi.
Starting point is 01:46:37 He gave you another date. Cardi wouldn't give you a date. Cardi wouldn't give you our niggies a day. That's the fact. Cardi wouldn't give niggies a date. That's a fact. So, please, don't do that. Also, I'll be honest with him and I'll tell him like he can't be on Young Thug timing.
Starting point is 01:46:52 I think Young Thug is at the risk at this moment of missing the mark and the timing of the momentum that comes from people wanting to celebrate you getting out of something like, for example, a RICO or Racketeering trial, right? By the way, I did see that Young Thug want to get up with YB? I don't know if I felt like that But I'm pretty sure somebody made it happen The The sad incident that happened was Mello Buck's Chicago party was actually shot up 12 people got shots the match
Starting point is 01:47:28 No actually it was 19 19 people that got shot supposedly four got killed Listen to this chat It happened Look Yeah Down be the down Hey shoot like more but down
Starting point is 01:47:43 Police right I've been having Look Yeah this is like a war zone They're driving to the bullets Nick I would have hit the quickest you turn possible Okay Um
Starting point is 01:47:55 Apparently the scene was filled with blood And all type of other shit Here's a video Um Wait Who has all the videos I gotta go to Chicago Wave Chicago
Starting point is 01:48:12 By the way drill don't put none of this shit up on my On my Instagram Okay We're gonna just have this for the live and that's it. There's even a video of the actual shooting. I think that's too much. I don't want to show that shit.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Like the dudes roll up in a vehicle as two shooters. They shoot 19 times. And supposedly either is one bullet to a person or somehow they have hell of crazy accuracy because they shot 19 people. Whatever. I'm not even going to play that. Aftermath is gruesome, a bunch of blood, this 9 3rd.
Starting point is 01:48:47 This is where you see, you see someone like 6-100 breezy who's addressing the violence to say man y'all niggins got to do better he say yo y'all shot all them girls niggis bitches bitches for real get out the car and get up on your target innocent women and kids ain't the ain't ain't points you fucking flats and he says but you niggies ain't have no structure of big homies so y'all boring goofies with no guidance and going die the same goofy, same goofy way you've been living your whole life.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Love you, 600 breezy, but worst advice ever. No, no, no, you should definitely kill them there. It's just that just don't shoot from the car. Just hop out and execute them motherfuckers, okay? Make sure you put a bullet in their dome, okay? Just make sure you kill them in front of their kids. Just make sure you didn't hit the kids. Really horrific advice.
Starting point is 01:49:45 The only possible advice should be is, the violence subsides. That's it. This whole, nah, yo, like, this is not a war zone. Okay? It's not a war zone. And if y'all think it's a war zone,
Starting point is 01:49:58 they should lock all y'all niggas who think it's appropriate to do daily shootouts, let's lock you on the island and play some type of hunger games and whoever who comes back, y'all can survive in a regular world. But this fact that y'all claim that shooting should be happening around kids,
Starting point is 01:50:13 around people who are got nothing to do with it at release parties, y'all are bananas, all that oh let's run up type of stuff please stop it sounds stupid incredibly stupid okay now there's so much like talk about this they're saying mellow bucks is a rapper that talks hot she's always getting into male beefs apparently her best friend got shot her brother got shot and killed and apparently her boyfriend got shot and killed so you know look like maybe some of the targeted shooting was for them, which is very unfortunate if that's the case, okay?
Starting point is 01:50:54 What's this? So releases we're waiting off of the last half, I'm gonna keep it to be with you. We're waiting for YB, okay? YB, B, that's Y, Y, B, bro, Y, B, bro, Y, Y, B, bro. Y, Y, B, bro, why, B, bro, why B, bro. Why, B, bro. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:51:26 Y, B, bro. It's okay. As long as young boy, Josh, we'd be fine. What's this? There's a Milwaukee sound breaking out. Okay, cool. Let me see what no jumper got posted. No jumper have like a world of their own, bro.
Starting point is 01:51:59 There's another sex worker. It's a holiday weekend, Ted. It's kind of slow, so, you know, bear with me. There's another sex worker. Actually, Vladim found, like, three of the sex workers. He just interviewed one. Listen to this, nigger. How I find all the sex workers, isn't this?
Starting point is 01:52:22 I think you got an interview going with two of them right now. So as you guys start the sex, what happens then? He's just kind of like walking around, watching, kind of instructing her, telling her like to talk dirty and to like switch positions to her get up, do this, and then like we'll be like stop. And she wanted me to dance for her in between us having sex. So we just like set up a little set. Now, this is a little bit different, chat, because this is sex with Jane Doe, not Cassie.
Starting point is 01:53:03 So this was a sex worker that worked with 50's baby mom, not Cassie. Cut the light song. She'll be like, tell me to pick two songs. She'll pick two songs and kind of dance in between. And then he's just like watching, walking around, watching and kind of instructing her. He'd be like, tell her to sit down and then tell me to sit down. I'll sit down. She'll dance with me a little bit, kind of just like mixing it up.
Starting point is 01:53:24 And he's pretty much just directing her. telling her what to do while I'm dancing for. Well, didn't Jane Doe ask you to take off the condom? Yeah. And what did you say? I said, no. And then she was like, well, could you come on me? So when I came, I pulled the condom off and came on her.
Starting point is 01:53:46 Okay. Before that happened, though, what was Diddy doing as you guys are having sex? He was sitting in the corner with his shirt off. And then at one point, like right before I came, he was sitting in a, his corner he had his pants in his pants were shirt off and he was just sitting there and then he would get up and then he'd just be walking around smoking like sipping a drink smoking as me and her having sex and just kind of telling her do this pull more baby all on yourself kind of instructing her throughout the process right but wasn't he pleasuring himself at one point yeah okay so i remember when i talked to punisher right
Starting point is 01:54:19 he said that he was given you know very clear instructions to not even you know address did he on any point, don't look him in the eye, don't act like he's even there. He said the first time that him and Diddy actually locked eyes was when he was leaving the stand, you know, in court. Was there any of that, like don't look at Diddy, don't talk to Diddy, or was this more kind of like, no, when he was walking around, I looked at him, he was like, I'm not even here. But like, at the same time, like, I know you tried to record when I was first dancing
Starting point is 01:54:49 for us. So I'm like, conscious of him walking around. He was like, I'm not even, act like I'm not even here, you know? Okay. So you guys have sex. with a condom while Diddy's watching. Yeah. Does he leave before you actually come?
Starting point is 01:55:04 No, he stayed in there. He's actually in there. Yeah. Okay. And Punisher told me the exact same story, that basically he would have sex with Cassie, in his case. And right before he came, he'd have to pull out and bust on his stomach. So that's exactly what you did.
Starting point is 01:55:20 Yeah. So after you bust, what happens next? I get up and I go into the bathroom to take a shower, and then when I walk in the bathroom in the tub, it's like, this much hot water and there's like 10 bottles of baby oil in the bathtub and like five bottles of astroglide and you're just like floating in hot water so when I walk in there I'm like I'm like hmm so I'll stick my hand in the water and like the water's like very hot so I was like they must have just put this in here and I think to myself well I just used like two bottles of baby oil
Starting point is 01:55:50 so why do they got this many like what they're going to be doing with all these bottles you know so there's just a massive amount of baby oil in that tub massive amount of baby oil in the top okay Well, the one thing Punisher told me that was very interesting. He told me part of the story off camera. But he said that every time he would bust, before he came, Diddy would walk the other room and close the door. And as soon as he would come, she would, like, jump up and like just try to hold kind of like the cum on her stomach, like the liquid gold, you know, make sure it didn't spill. And he's like, run into the other room and bring it to Diddy. And what he said that was really funny was that he was actually relieved after watching the court case.
Starting point is 01:56:29 because he assumed that Diddy was eating it. No. When he found out, when he found out that she would rub it on his nipples, he was like halfway relieved. He was like, okay, I guess that's better than Diddy eating it, I guess. Oh, my God. Do you have any idea what Jane Doe and Diddy did with your man juice after you were done?
Starting point is 01:56:55 Well, I finished, I'm in a shower when I'm thinking to myself, like, I just came on, like, she's not going to come get. in the shower, you know. So I get out the shower, and then when I walk out, they're having sex. Oh. And her are having sex. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:07 So I'm like, she didn't even watch that off over her. Okay. So basically, Diddy got your sloppy seconds? Yeah. Okay. How did that make you feel when you saw that? It threw me off, really. Like, I walked into the little room closed the door and started getting dressed.
Starting point is 01:57:22 Yeah. I was like, all right. Like, I do not want to be here right now. Yeah. I mean, were they, like, ask you to join in? No. Like, I opened the door. from a day in the bed and they have a sex and I'm like interesting and I just I literally just walk out
Starting point is 01:57:37 close the door and start putting my clothes on okay and they give you what the 3,000 extra the 5 she she didn't get the 2 yet okay so she walks out and she was like she was like thank you we enjoyed that how much do I owe you and I was like five she gave me and I left okay how did you feel walking out of there? I was kind of like surprised at the ending, like how he was having sex with her, and she didn't take a shower with the cum, but at the same time, I was just like, was it, was it missionary? Yeah, he was, she was laying down on her back and he was on top of him.
Starting point is 01:58:13 So basically your cum juice is rubbing up on his stomach as he's having sex with her. That's, that's, so I was kind of throw it off from that. Yeah, that's a little nasty. Okay. So you walked out and you were like, okay, damn, that was crazy. Yeah. Well, you had a second encounter also. Yep.
Starting point is 01:58:33 Like, probably like four months later. Four months later. So when they hit you, did they tell you, okay, same couples last time? Yep, same client. All right, so you knew what was up? Yeah. So what happens the second time? The second time, it was at a, it was, I think, in Beverly Hills at a hotel called the
Starting point is 01:58:49 Ler Mirage or Lourne Matage. And I go up and that's the same setup. But this time they have like a fruit tray a couple bottles and like pre rolls on a table So I walk in and we sit at the table just like eating out the fruit tray and drinking and talking and he was like Asked me if I wanted a rhino pill and I was like what is that it's like the gas station pills the sex pills that you get at the gas stations And I was like no, I'm good. I don't need that, you know and then he has um He comes back what he was like what about the honey pat and it said hidden vault on it and I was like hit in vault and I was like hit in vault. She was like it's just honey. So I read it and I'm like okay. It's close it's honey I'll give it a shot so I did the honey pack and um that was my first time
Starting point is 01:59:29 I'm learning about the honey if you know about it no I know what is yeah it's like um kind of like a like the rhino pill at the gas station and I had such a sexual performance you know just kind of chill smoke and still had like the towel was laid out so the same scenario she already had like a list of songs this time that she wanted me to dance too so I danced for like four songs. She got a pair of underwear that she wanted me to wear for some reason. It's like some black boxer briefs. I put those on. I dance for. Same thing. A lot of baby, all as I'm dancing, then he's kind of instructing her, telling her to dance, telling her what to say, like speak dirty, you know, and then we did that in the living room for like 30 minutes. They moved to the bedroom
Starting point is 02:00:11 and kind of the same situation, but I didn't, I couldn't come the second time. Okay, so was the condoms again? Yeah. Okay. Do they ask you not to work on this time? No. Okay, so they already knew. She asked me to come on, though, again. Again? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:28 Okay. So you're going through the motions, you're going through the motions, but you can't come. Yeah. Is it because Dittie's right there? He was pacing or the honey, like the honey, you just like a Viagra-type supplement that I was like, I was hard, but I just couldn't come. Okay. You know? So what happened?
Starting point is 02:00:46 At one point you just gave up? Yeah, I was like, I was like, it's not working. And she was like, it's okay. It's okay, it's okay, I'm tired. You're good, you're good. And then I just ended that one. Okay, so you took the condom off? Yeah. Go back to the bathroom again? No, I just took the condom off and started getting dressed. Oh, so you didn't even shower this time? Yeah, I didn't even shower. Okay. And was Did he upset at all, or? He was like, no, he was like, you're good, bro, you'd be like that sometimes. It'd be like that sometimes. But you could tell, like, that's what they wanted, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:01:16 Okay, so you got to pay the $5,000 again? Yeah. Okay. What year was that? One of them was end of 2023 and one was beginning of 2024. Okay. So 23-24. August 23, I think it was.
Starting point is 02:01:35 Okay. Damn. Now, at the agency, you said that you had a friend who... Yeah, how the hell Vlad found... He found another nigga, too. It's like a third escort Philadelphia. Right. And you worked for an agency called...
Starting point is 02:01:50 Cowboys for Angels. Right, yeah. Now, what happened around 2016? 2016, I just moved to Miami from Atlanta, and that's when I got the call for a celebrity client to meet at the one hotel on South Beach, and that ended up being, ended up being Diddy. Okay, now, previous to that, now, you did adult films, but were you actually doing escorting, you know, meeting with women, couples, and so forth? So at that point in time, 2016, I wasn't doing any adult friends. I didn't do that until 2023. That's when I started, or 2024.
Starting point is 02:02:27 So to that point, it was just, I had a job as a market development manager for a small startup company, and then I ended up getting into the escorting business just by way of modeling. Somebody hit me up off model ma'am. It looked like spam, first name, Garon, last name
Starting point is 02:02:42 Teed. Pitched idea of being a jigolo. I had no idea what that was other than Duce Bigelow, Mel Jigolo. So, But ended up getting into that and it was just dates. You know, go on a date with this older lady and just tell her she's attractive and this is a great time and compliment her. And that's all it was. It was, I mean, I had one point where I went on a date with the lady and she had heart palpitation.
Starting point is 02:03:05 Had to take her to the, these are old. Damn. These are old. These women are, right? So, for the most part. 73. 73. Did you guys consummate that?
Starting point is 02:03:15 We did not. No, I'm not a miracle worker. I can't make the dead. orders. So I was just like, you know, we're going to have to, we're going to eat this. We're going to eat this Italian food and that's going to be it. Okay. But that's how it was, you know, the whole thing was described to me. It was like, this isn't sexual, you know, for sexual contact for, for monetary gratification. Like, this was just going to be
Starting point is 02:03:37 dates and stuff like that. So that's really what it was up until this point in time. Okay. So you're working for Cowboys for Angels and you get a call that there's a celebrity client. And they don't tell you who it is yet. No, they don't tell me who it is. All they told me was it was a celebrity client last name Lopez. And then they went on, as I'm on the way to the hotel, they're like, yeah, so just ask for Mr. Lopez. And in my head, I'm like, you know, this is a straight man escort agency. So I'm trying to figure out what, Mr. How does this work into the situation?
Starting point is 02:04:11 I'm like, they knew that that wasn't my thing. So I'm thinking in my head like George Lopez or Jennifer Lopez. It could be like, I'm thinking any Lopez celebrity name. So then I get to the hotel and the front desk clerk walks me upstairs. I said I'm there from Mr. Lopez. Get up there. It's like Latin music playing in the hallway. So I'm really thinking this is an Hispanic person, celebrity is still trying to rack my brain to figure out who it is.
Starting point is 02:04:38 And door opens up and then he's just standing there and like a black wife beater and some shorts. And he's like, what's up, man? I'm like, oh. First thought was like, oh. oh, it's Diddy. Like, this is, and then I was like, oh, no, it's Diddy. Because at this point of time, people still, you know, those accusations were out there. It's all right.
Starting point is 02:04:55 That would take that for a second. But it was chill. Like, walked right in and it was pretty easy. Got in there, it looked like an episode of Cribs. It was nothing but Sirrock from like bottom to top of the shelf in the refrigerator. Drink it's a rock, sitting, chilling. He offered me a joint. We smoking.
Starting point is 02:05:15 He seemed like he was very, very. Very cool, very cool guy. He just got off of some knee surgery for, and was doing some type of commercial about his recovery at that point in time. So all in all, when this very beginning, it was more so very chill, just kind of hanging out, smoking, chilling.
Starting point is 02:05:34 Not until like a couple hours into that, did he tell me like, oh, what were you doing tonight? And, you know, you're about to have the best Valentine's day of your life, and then Cassie walks out. Okay. So Cassie comes in in red lingerie. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:05:50 And you knew who she was right away. Immediately. She's, I'm a year younger than her. So I grew up with the, you know, the me and you song and stuff. I'm like, okay, this is crazy. I don't believe that I'm really here right now, but let's see where this goes. So.
Starting point is 02:06:04 Okay. So then the two you started to talk. Yeah, we started talking. He left the room for a second and mind you, when I got in there, I didn't really know what was going to happen, know what was going to happen, but I just noticed like there's a lot of towels, white towels on all the couches and the furniture and stuff. There's a red light over in the side. They're playing
Starting point is 02:06:24 like, you know, some very vibey music. And there's like a ton of baby oil, like scattered about everywhere, like more than any one man should have, you know, and especially in a hotel room, right? So he had got up and left and I'm looking at her. I'm like, I made the joke like there's so much baby oil and candles in here like one wrong move and we all gonna die you know we all gonna blow up in this thing so uh but she was very communicative in the fact that she was joking and very playful with me she told me that she picked me from the site and uh it seemed as if this was something that they'd have been doing for some years and they said they'd been doing this for a while too so uh as far as like the vibe of the night i took my cues from them they pretty much knew exactly what they
Starting point is 02:07:13 wanted, again, felt like they'd done this before. And that's pretty much how it started out. So this sort of talking and, you know, sort of intimate kind of conversation, that lasted for hours. Yeah. I mean, I was initially supposed to be with there for about four or five hours. I got paid as soon as I got there. And I'm thinking, again, up to this point, a lot of what I'd been doing was just hanging out. And at that point, yeah, it was four or five hours into it. I thinking I'm about to go home. And then all of a sudden he was like, all right, you know, we're going to turn,
Starting point is 02:07:52 we're going to turn this thing up a little bit. The music changed. More baby oil comes out. Baby oil and K.Y. I'm like, who got this? You know, it's baby oil and K. Y comes out. It's heated.
Starting point is 02:08:03 They've been heating the baby oil the whole time that we're talking in the tub. Right? So this was like, they kind of knew what they were doing. I'm still trying to figure out what's going on. And yeah, that's when it kind of started off. He was more so wanting us to just talk to each other. You know, his whole thing is like being very verbal. So he was in the kitchen in the dark with a bottle of Sirak.
Starting point is 02:08:26 And we're sitting on the couch and he was like, what do you like about him? You picked him from the site. What made you pick him from the site? What do you like about her? You know, he was more so he wanted us to talk and act like he was not there at all. So that's kind of how it progressed. But it was a very long progression over the course of hours and hours. Right, because at one point he said, it's the love hour.
Starting point is 02:08:47 Right. And that's when everything, when the love hour happened and he became Brother Love, then it was like a totally different, the vibe changed. It was more so like the music switched up. He was asking did he want to refresh drinks and stuff, like a cool host almost, but you can kind of tell like they had some type of formula of where they wanted the night to go. So I was just along for the ride, honestly. Okay, so you guys start with sexual contact in the beginning,
Starting point is 02:09:15 and that actually leads up to penetration at the end? Yeah, it was more so just physical touch. So there was lots of baby oil around, as I said before, and he was like, okay, why don't you put some baby oil on her? And then she was like, he asked her, do you want you put some baby oil on him? So it was more so that talking, caressing, stuff like that for hours. like for an ungodly long amount of time.
Starting point is 02:09:41 And at a certain point, she would start to kind of like come towards me to kind of like move things along. And he would be like, no, no, no, go back. You know, you just tell him you're moving too fast, you know. So he never was telling anybody what he wanted them to do. He never gave demands to say, touch him, do this. He would say, what do you want to do? Do you want to do this?
Starting point is 02:10:02 Do you like that about him? It was all about the verbal cues for him. Okay, so at the end, you guys actually engage in intercourse. Yeah, at the end. About like hour eight or nine or something like that. What? At the end of the intercourse, though, something specific happens. Right, so he wanted me to finish on climax on her.
Starting point is 02:10:27 And this was something that she said that she was ready for as well. Again, we've been there for a couple hours. It was a weird thing because at this point in time, I never had like another male in the room like that. So when he was like finish, you got to finish manually. So it was it was a task. Like I felt like this arm was significantly bigger than this arm by the time I left because I'm just like, you know, this is weird. He's literally off to the side drinking to the rock talking about get it king.
Starting point is 02:10:57 Get it king. Get it king. Imagine a nigga cheering you on to know. Yo, get it king. You deserve it, daddy. You deserve it. it man you've been scrambling and scraping all night it's been hour nine is hour ten in here you deserve it daddy get that nut pause god damn couple hours it was a weird thing because at this point in time i'd never
Starting point is 02:11:21 had like another male in the room like that so when he was like finish you got to finish manually so it was it was a it was a task like i felt like this arm was significantly bigger than this arm by the time i left because i'm just like you know this is weird he's literally all right he's literally all right to the side, drinking Sir Rock talking about, get it, King, get her King, it was just a weird, you know, he's like this. So I'm like, all right, this is surreal. But so I finish and my thought processes,
Starting point is 02:11:52 you know, they were getting up to go take a shower because we're in the living room and they were gonna go back to their back room. So when she got up to go to the back room, I didn't think anything of it. You're not gonna use these KY Johnson & Johnson towels to wipe that off, right? So I'm thinking you're gonna go to the back room.
Starting point is 02:12:09 So I never crossed my mind what they were doing back there, had no idea that she was fingerpainting on his chest. You know, so. Your man juice. Yeah. Yeah, what was funny was when I had Punisher on my show and the exact same routine, right, have sex, pull out, bust on her,
Starting point is 02:12:31 and then she would like run off in the other room, you know, with it, because a lot of times with him, like, Diddy would go in the, other room before they finished. She would like go to him and close the door. And he said when he watched the trial and when she said that, you know, she would take the cum and rub it on his chest,
Starting point is 02:12:50 he was actually relieved because he thought that Diddy was eating it. I don't know if I'd be relieved. I'm probably equally as terrified from both of those things, right? I'm like, it's not, there's no way this is a good scenario. It's all bad, no matter how you do. Damn, it's a lot. I found out just like he did during the court process, and I'm reading this transcripts with my girlfriend,
Starting point is 02:13:11 and she's like, he did what? So it was like, we were all blindsided by that. I never got that vibe from him, you know, that this was something that he was, to me, it was just, he's all about the visual. He wants to watch. I didn't know they were engaging and stuff in the back room. When they would leave, he would be like,
Starting point is 02:13:28 all right, bro, you can go ahead and order room service and smoke. And, you know, if you want to leave, you can leave. Or I'll come back out and we'll hang out for us. second and then maybe we'll do another one. But, you know, this is like eight or nine hours in. I'm not trying to do nothing else. So more times or not, it would just be wrapped up after that.
Starting point is 02:13:46 Damn. Get it, King. Get it. The niggi did one. I ain't watching you guys. Yo, chat, we're just kind of chilling. I'm going to chill to eight, bro. Like, I know, like,
Starting point is 02:14:09 it's a holiday weekend. I'm still trying to put a little streaming hours. And don't be like, damn, act, you just watch videos today. You know, you know, I'll be scrambling and scraping for y'all chat. Pause.
Starting point is 02:14:20 You know, I deserve it. Chill. Nah, but it's July 4th. Let me chill a little bit. I'll stay on till 9 and then I get off and shit like that.
Starting point is 02:14:32 You know, just trying to keep the street going. I think we're on day 5. I think so. Get me? Again, I'm trying to figure out the particulars, because I'm about to go on vacation chat. I'm trying to figure out the particulars
Starting point is 02:14:43 how I could stream like a hour a day during my vacation, an hour a day. It's like an hour a day type of shit, you feel me? But yeah, yeah, just, you know, I know we have a high standard for streaming. Just give me a little break. We just finish a big trial. You know, it's the fourth.
Starting point is 02:15:01 I'm sipping a little bit. I told you I don't got no friends. Nobody, I ain't going to lie, I swear. Nobody invited me to a cookout today. That shit was crazy. Niggis do cookouts still? Not one invite. Like, yo, bro, what you doing that?
Starting point is 02:15:12 Not one. I don't know. What's going to? on my phone will draw. I have to my other phone, man. I didn't get invited to nothing. So I said, I'm going to just get on stream, man. I'm like, nobody love me but the chat niggas, man.
Starting point is 02:15:23 You don't feel lonely? I'm like, ain't nobody love me by the chat niggas, man. Let me get on stream real quick. I watch some videos with y'all. It's all good. It's all good. Okay, so you got paid $3,500. And they booked you two more times.
Starting point is 02:15:37 Yeah, they booked me, actually they booked me three more times. One of those times I came over, and I got off the And he pretty much met me at the door and was like, hey, she's not feeling good right now. So we're going to scratch this and do it like a different night. I'm like, all, cool. Okay. Now, as you're getting to the second and third session, it was pretty much the same routine, but certain things were different because at one point, you guys would be having sex,
Starting point is 02:16:07 you and Cassie, and then Diddy would, like, tag in? Yeah, like, he would, uh, he would, uh, he would, uh, he would, He, so we'd be engaging and he would be like, all right, King, like I'm about to tap in right now. And then he would say, go over there. So I would go over there. And then he'd come over and then they would engage in their own passionate intercourse, which wouldn't last too long. And then he'd be like, all right, I'm good. Come back over.
Starting point is 02:16:34 And he'd go back over to where he was. And then I sit there and, yeah, they just, he kind of switched off. But he never wanted me around him, which is why I thought that the gay accusations were a bit much because knowing him as long as I've known him, right? I never got that vibe from him. He never even wanted me next to him when this was happening. I didn't want him next to me either, so it seemed like we were all on the same page, right? So, yeah, he did his thing. Although rubbing him come on his nipples is somewhat gay.
Starting point is 02:17:07 I wasn't involved in that. I wasn't involved in that. I know you weren't. But I'm just saying. Yeah, well, he did, that was diabolical what he did behind closed doors. You know, to try to spell that myth. I'm just saying, it's a big hill. It's a lot.
Starting point is 02:17:19 It's a very big hill. It's a very steep hill. Now, in the beginning, you and Cassie were using condoms, but that switched at one point. Yeah, I think one time we went without, and to be clear on that, he would always ask, do you want to do this without a condom? And there was a thing. Yo, chat, I'm going to keep it. it up being with you bro like again yo i do think did he gay and everything but hearing these
Starting point is 02:17:47 sex workers talk about it yo did he freaky he's gay he whatever bro he's always asking questions like yo you want to do that now not tell him how you feel whatever whatever go king get you nut you know this thing look like the best host in the world how the fuck is he sex trafficking the niggis always asking you how to make you happy he's not nah bro i ain't gonna lie you man they railroaded did he bruh he freaky did he went to jail for being gay that's what i'm thinking now he went to jail for being gay that's a fact because this thing is like he's a great host he's passing you to rock he might pass you a condom you bought a nut he's cheering you want to get it king you know i mean he's like nah hold on now tell like he's telling the bitch to appreciate you
Starting point is 02:18:34 yo tell him what you appreciate about him damn what more what more do you want for me Like, God damn, bro. Although rubbing your come on his nipples is somewhat gay. I wasn't involved in that. I wasn't involved in that. I know you were, but I'm just saying. Yeah, well, he did. That was diabolical.
Starting point is 02:18:53 There's that one hill you have to get over. You know, to try to spell that myth. I'm just saying, it's a big hill. It's a very steep. It's a very big hill. It's a very steep hill. Now, in the beginning, you and Cassie were using condoms, but that switched at one point.
Starting point is 02:19:09 Yeah, I think one time we went with And to be clear on that, he would always ask, do you want to do this without a condom? And there was a, they would have a conversation as if I'm not in the room. Very calm. She'd be like, oh, I don't know. He's like, you know, these guys are tested. And she would ask me, I'm like, yeah, I'm tested. And he'd be like, do you want to do this?
Starting point is 02:19:31 And she'd be like, you know, no, not right now. And he would kind of just let that go. He was never forceful in like saying, you need to do this, you need to do that. So, and I think one of the, the time out of the four was one time that we did engage in intercourse without protection. But it was very quick. She came to me and started to start that process and looked to him to see if this was something that was like cool to do.
Starting point is 02:20:00 And he kind of gave a head nod and that's what it was. In the words of Cameron, how was the pussy? How do you think it was? It was great. It was great. I was singing me and you in my head the whole time. Oh, shit. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Starting point is 02:20:23 Yeah, I think Cassie was tight. I'm going to be honest with you. I think most of these things could nut, not only because Diddy was walking around him jerking off. Man, you know, Cassie shit got to be loose. You know what I mean? No, nah, they got surgeries and shit that could address that, but, you know, shout to Cassie, though.
Starting point is 02:20:44 We ain't trying to shame her. No type of shit like that. His other nigga. That other guy, the third guy, he funny. He funny. The last one we just, listen to, he funny. I could tell he, like, joking-wise. Like, he's funny.
Starting point is 02:21:00 You know, this was, like, maybe like, six months later, nine months later, something like that. Yeah. When you heard about the lawsuit, what did you think? It, like, it kind of, like, blew my mind. And then, like, when the lawsuit came out, like, the all allegations came out. And there was, like, three friends.
Starting point is 02:21:15 I told about the situation and they called me insid and they're like, man, Rico, remember you're telling me about that all situation and like sending me the links. And I'm like, man, this is crazy, you know. But I've never, I never thought it would come to me and I started getting calls from, what is it, the Federal Bureau of Investigations, the FBI started calling me, saying they wanted to talk to me. And I had a friend that was an attorney, so I called him. He was like, well, you don't have to talk to them. They don't have a subpoena of this and this.
Starting point is 02:21:43 So then like two days later they called me. It was like, we have a subpoena. So you got to talk to us. So I just avoided them. Like, they was calling me trying to meet up with me. And they like, they knew I lived on sunset. They was like, we're here on sunset. We just want you to talk to you for a second.
Starting point is 02:21:58 So I bought him for like five months. And then I was promoting an event I was working for and I'm posting on social media. And so I go outside. They're like, Rico, someone's outside. And I think it's just one of my guests trying to get into the event. And when I go out there, like the guy pulls up a phone and start recording me, like he hands me a letter,
Starting point is 02:22:15 and as he's handing to me, I grab it, and it's like a long line of people outside and they're producer for the show when I grab it, and he pulls out his phone, he's like, you're set to be here in the pier, he pulled up his shirt and showed his badge, and it was like being loud about it. And like, I knew exactly what it was
Starting point is 02:22:29 once he started doing that, you know what I'm saying? Okay, so now you have an actual subpoena yeah. For the grand jury. Yeah. Okay. Now, Did the Diddy house raids already happened or no?
Starting point is 02:22:44 Yeah. Okay. So you now, you know, you now know that things are getting more and more serious. Right. So the diddy house raids happen. The Cassie lawsuit has been settled, but, you know, everyone got to read through all the craziness in it. And did the Cassie video come out yet or no? It was, it was like just beginning.
Starting point is 02:23:02 Like, that stuff was just beginning to come out. Okay. When you saw the Cassie video, like the hallway, you know, Intercontinental video, what did you think? I felt like that was bad. Like, I felt bad for her. And, like, felt bad for being around someone that rootless that would do that to a woman. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:26 I mean, before the video came out, he had a whole Instagram post. Like, you know, all these lies spread about me. I will protect my name and my family. They're all false, whatever. Then that video comes out. Then he does the, you know, he was like, yo, I'm fucked up. Yeah. I was in a dark place.
Starting point is 02:23:41 I should have said that at first. I know, right? So the video comes out. The lawsuit, you know, has been settled. The house raids have happened. I mean, when you heard about the house raids, you know, when they raided both as L.A. and Miami home. Did you think at this point, okay, things are really getting serious?
Starting point is 02:24:00 Yeah, I did. But at the same time in my head, I was like, I didn't let him record any of me so I wasn't really worried, so I didn't think I had anything to worry about, you know? Right. but now you have an actual subpoena to go to a grand jury. Where was that? In what state?
Starting point is 02:24:15 New York. In New York. Yep. Okay. So what was the grand jury like? I actually did it on Zoom. So it was like me and like eight people. It was me, my lawyer, I guess, like the DA and like seven jurors.
Starting point is 02:24:30 And they just questioned me about what happened and everything that went on, kind of told them the same thing, you know? And I was asking questions like, did I feel for us or did it feel like, did it feel like, she was forced or was there any drugs around, like kind of stuff that could lead to something, you know? Right. And, I mean, based on what you said, you weren't forced. Yep. Did she seem like she was forced at all?
Starting point is 02:24:52 She was chill and enjoying it. I didn't feel like nobody was forced in a situation. Right. And there really were no drugs. It was just, how the hell did they get an indict? Well, you know, they always say you could indict a ham sandwich chat. Remember, let me break this down one more time for your chat. To convict someone at trial is the highest burden of proof required in the land,
Starting point is 02:25:17 beyond a reasonable doubt. Okay? For someone to, well, beyond that is going to be a search warrant. A search warrant is you have to have extremely strong probable cause. This is why they use Tyrone, not Tyrone, a little wrong. Rod, Ronnie Jones, because he knew where things were going to be. And it's not only to say, I think this nigga's doing a crime. Let's go in his house.
Starting point is 02:25:48 You need to know what you're going to find in the house, where it's at, and what you reasonably expect to help give you to help prove your case. Okay. So we're going down how easy shit is, right? Then beyond that, right, that's still in the probable cause realm, but that probable cause has to be signed off by a judge. So a search warrant, you need probable cause, but a judge has to approve it.
Starting point is 02:26:15 Okay. Then you need, let's see what else you need probable cause for. Okay, probable cause to search your car. Don't need no judge. Yo, we smelled weed. That's usually good enough for where they could bring a dog. Like if you're in a car, there's actually a lot more different rules
Starting point is 02:26:34 when it comes to like cars because it's still the Fourth Amendment right. They can run up in your car. They don't need a judge. They don't need a judge. When it comes to a house, they always need a judge. Your car on public roads, they don't need a judge. Okay?
Starting point is 02:26:51 What else is probable cause? Right? I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. What else? What else? That was my train and thought.
Starting point is 02:27:06 I am drinking a little bit. Sorry, Joe. He was forced. Did it feel like she was forced? And, I mean, basically. Oh, oh. So, so, so my whole thing is why it's easy to indict. So when to get an indictment from a grand jury and in most places, in most precincts,
Starting point is 02:27:27 to get a indictment on felony charges with most places usually require a felony for a felony or a serious felony, especially first degree or second degree, they want a jury of your own peers to indict you. What is the indictment means? There is a probable cause that a crime was committed by that person. Now, there's a saying, a grand jury could indict a ham sandwich. Why? The grand jury only hears, in most places,
Starting point is 02:28:06 from the prosecutor. So it will be 23 people. I think it's the same in New York. In 23 people, they will link up, their review and evidence. The jurors are able to access. So I don't know if it works. I think it does work the same federally.
Starting point is 02:28:26 So a grand juror was able to ask him a question like, yo, bro, did he ever grab you by the neck? And, you know, like, so they were able to ask questions. A, damn there, right? The prosecution is almost just guiding the evidence. This is why it says it's easy to indict anyone because there's no pushback. When we heard all this ditty shit, there's no pushback in a grand jury hearings. They're just kind of laying it out.
Starting point is 02:28:53 Maybe they talked to some of these guys before and knew like, all right, you're going to say some shit that a grand jury ain't going to like. We're not going to put you in front of the grand jury. We want to put a narrative there. So the grand jury has to vote and the indictment, it most, places except the Commonwealth. The Commonwealth's, like for example, Pennsylvania, it's a couple of other places. They might have different percentage. Sometimes it's 66%, but usually it's over 50%, which means that's what, if I say 23 people, you just need, and by the way, the grand jury
Starting point is 02:29:20 listens to many different cases. They'll convene for maybe two to three months. They'll listen to mad cases and they'll vote. And usually if we're going on the 51% rule, as long as 12 out of 23 votes probable causes there to indict, a true bill of indictment comes down. Okay? It's an easy way to take accountability off of the DA, off of the investigators.
Starting point is 02:29:50 It basically says a jury of your peers, a grand jury of your peers, says you should stand trial. Okay. So let's keep going down. And so that's how Did he got indicted? But the more I'm hearing this, I'm like,
Starting point is 02:30:05 How did the nigga get indicted? Because all the sex workers are saying it's consensual. No one is saying it's not consensual, but Cassie and that fucking whole Jane, though. The least, the least, and hopefully when I'm, like, kicking my shit a little bit. Hopefully you could understand and take this. It's law for most places. You might have to specify it depends on where you live at. Because trust me, there's so many different places in New York.
Starting point is 02:30:31 Yo, I'm going to fuck Prince up. He's up there barking up a storm. Prince think he's beefing with an inanimate object He just sits there and like barks at the whole time I can hear this motherfucker I got him out there with Pluto That's his son Pluto got to teach that thing I'm like shut the fuck up anyway
Starting point is 02:30:46 So the least so beyond So the lesser thing is reasonable suspicion Reasonable suspicion is what Is a very low level suspicion But it's reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed Or was about to be committed Usually in most places that's where People could ask you for
Starting point is 02:31:08 ID. That's as much as they could do. They could stop you and they could briefly detain you to ask simple questions. Okay. And when I mean briefly detain you, say, hey, listen, now put you in custody in cuffs. Hey, we just want, could you identify yourself, sir? We got a call that there's a six foot five guy who's black wearing a white t-shirt that just broke into a house. You look like you're over six foot. You got a white t-shirt. Could you show us some ID? That doesn't mean somebody's getting arrested, but that's the lowest level of investigation, right? Reasonable suspicion could be someone made a 911 call, someone made an anonymous report. The police are just investigating a crime or investigating some suspicious things,
Starting point is 02:31:57 and they have now deemed that a crime may have been committed, and they think, and now they're trying to do that. So, again, you have reasonable suspicion at the bottom, right? So that's the cops thinking a crime has committed, been committed, or will be committed, or was about to be committed. Then you have probable cause. Probable cause has been subject of so many Supreme Court cases because probable cause goes into sometimes affecting your constitutional rights, especially your Fourth Amendment right, which is the right against unlawful searches and seizures, right? if they tell you to get out the car and they're going to search your car, that's because they think they have probable cause that, you know,
Starting point is 02:32:41 if they see a chopped off headed in the back of the car, it's clearly probable cause. We think that's someone dead. We're going to go search the fucking car, my nigga, okay? Clear probable cause. The thing they use a lot when, you know, obviously they've legalized weed a lot in most states, but like if you go to Florida,
Starting point is 02:32:59 and I'm pretty sure I just seen D-thing get arrested for a gun, probably had in the car. all these niggies who love having guns love smoking in a place like florida weed is still illegal the cops comes up they probably see a bunch of niggas red eyes they look like they're up to no good all the cop going to do kind of leaning say he smelled weed say he want to search a car or go get a dog and they're going to go get the probable cause that there's weed in the car they search a car they can go find your gun you know i mean so you have reasonable suspicion probable cause and when you get to the court system
Starting point is 02:33:35 is beyond a reasonable doubt. But the sad thing about the grand jury process is that it still deals with probable cause. It's just, it's on a slightly higher level but not that much. So put it like this, the same probable cause that a cop said, oh, I think I smelled some weed in your car,
Starting point is 02:33:53 I got a surgeon, is the same around the realm probable cause that ends up being you getting indicted and having to be locked up for like a year and potentially go to jail for life. Ain't that a bitch? Because a grand jury indicts on probable cause. That's it.
Starting point is 02:34:16 Sorry for the spiel, but you know, I'm a little lit. But, you know, that's my want-to-be legal ass trying to put you out on some game. And they just questioned me about what happened and everything that went on, kind of told them the same thing, you know, and I was asking questions like, did I feel for us or did it feel like, she was forced or was there any drugs around, like kind of stuff that could lead to something, you know? Right.
Starting point is 02:34:41 And, I mean, based on what you said, you weren't forced. Yep. Did she seem like she was forced at all? She was chill and enjoying it. And I didn't feel like nobody was forced in the situation. Right. And there really were no drugs. It was just like the...
Starting point is 02:34:54 It was just weed, alcohol, yeah. Exactly. And then just the various, you know, and big store... Quarterstore bills and honey and whatever else, right? And baby oil, exactly. Were you worried that you might get charged with prostitution at that point? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:10 Okay. And what do they say about that? They just told me, as long as I just tell them what really happened, I would have nothing to worry about. I mean, during this grand jury process, were any of the other, you know, escorts that were part of this agency? Were they part of it as well? Like, some of your people were also part of this grand jury? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:35:32 So you guys were, guys like, talking about it? with each other, like, yo, I'm about to go when you go and so forth. So how many people did you know that were part of this grand jury? Two. So three of you total? Yeah. And how did everyone feel when you guys were talking to each other? Kind of just like nervous that there would be consequences for us and wondering what the turnout was going to be.
Starting point is 02:35:53 And like, we didn't know at the time that it was going to be released. So like none of us was really saying anything about it. Were they saying they're going to actually put you on the stand? They said it's a possibility. Okay. How did you feel about that? I didn't want to do it. But if I had to, you have to, you know?
Starting point is 02:36:15 Did any of the other S-course did you do the other two guys? Did they ever took the stand? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Which one? Punisher. Oh, you do Punisher?
Starting point is 02:36:23 Yeah. Ah, okay. How do you feel about this whole penis implant thing, by the way? Oh I thought a question You're asking, Vlad. How do I feel about
Starting point is 02:36:32 a nunman penis implant? Hey, okay, so maybe all these three guys, so him, punishers,
Starting point is 02:36:38 they're from Cowboy and Angels. I think this guy Don the dealer probably is too. Hmm, interesting. Interesting,
Starting point is 02:36:46 Chad. You, Adam and Leonard did any of you? You? I think, man. Wait, wait,
Starting point is 02:37:01 I mean, if you look at both your careers, individually who's made more money? I think me. You? I think me. No, I think me for sure.
Starting point is 02:37:15 Like, for sure. I mean, I have less overhead and I made a lot of money. Like, I had only fans before the pandemic, and then the pandemic happened. And I thought my money was going to go down. I was pregnant February 2020. And everything was going up because everyone had those checks to spend at home. And so, and then I did the thing with Jason. in and that made millions and I just I have like one employee you know so I've pocketed a lot of
Starting point is 02:37:43 more a lot more of it I agree I think that there's been times where I was bringing in more money than her but in terms of just consistency I mean her fans and her business is just like that first month where I made 35k I was so afraid to spend one dollar because I was like that got be cap that got be cab but but I always say I'd never be keeping the honey when I come to money maybe on, maybe only fans versus YouTube, like everything that Adam does, minus porn, like, come on. I think, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:38:18 Like, blown away by how much money it was, and I thought that I had, like, that someone was going to just take it back. Why did Adam, yo, Adam is so petty. You know, Adam sent me, like, some of his former employees. You know the nigger with the little retarded nigga who, um, was it back on whatever? Is it a nigga made like $7,000 a month?
Starting point is 02:38:37 And I'm like, I'm like, I'm glad I didn't respond to the niggas. I can't give him a boost. Holy shit. That was bad. Anyway. Because how could this possibly be real? It sounded like a joke.
Starting point is 02:38:51 Yeah, and this is August 2016. And, you know, this is almost 10 years later. And every year, except for the last, I made more than the year before. And just because the other year was an outlier. But, like, yeah, it's been crazy. Like, I would not have expected it to be this way. So how much did you make your best year? Probably like double what I made the year before.
Starting point is 02:39:15 And it's many millions. Multiple millions? Yeah. Have you ever made 10 million in the year? In one year, no. In one year, no. Okay. But still, multiple millions in a year is no joke.
Starting point is 02:39:26 Nah, Adam, you stop playing. Adda, you made 10 a year. Yeah. Especially with no overhead. No overhead. And before I had a kid, and I was just shooting at my house. So it's like...
Starting point is 02:39:37 I mean, Vlad TV consistently makes millions. but we have a big overhead. We have a dozen employees. We got a New York studio. Insurance. Insurance. We got a bunch of stuff. Salaries, you know, equipment, everything.
Starting point is 02:39:50 Appearance fees, like, everything. I'm going to be real, like, a lot of the stuff that we do is kind of a labor of love. Like, me and you both will do an interview that we're not planning on making a huge amount of money off just because we want to have the conversation. And we feel like it's good for the brand overall. And, you know, it's like, recently I went to New York and I filmed with Bobby Schmurda and did a Mayno interview and went to a bunch of different neighborhoods filming videos and stuff and you know she was just coming home
Starting point is 02:40:20 from having shot the scene with Jason Love as well as another scene and we're talking about it and it did kind of stand out. So there's another scene? There's another scene of someone else that will be dropping in the near future. With a man? Yep. Okay. And he was trying to make me feel bad about going on this trip.
Starting point is 02:40:37 He was calling me a flusie and I was like, This week is going to pay for my, like, my whole year. How dare you? And you're going to New York and lose money. Well, she's like, you're going to New York. You're trying to, like, break even, right? I'm like, it always fucks me up. They're, like, so, like, business partner.
Starting point is 02:40:52 You're like, they have a great business marriage. I like this. Oh, shout to X. Yeah. She's like, she's like. She's like, she's like. And I had got booked for two club appearances, like, right before. So I was like, I'm just fucking around.
Starting point is 02:41:07 I'm like, come on. Like, I. My work is important too. I pay half of everything. Everything. I remember I brought this up last time. So you guys actually split your bills. Which for a married couple is not very common.
Starting point is 02:41:20 I mean, I feel like every comment I read on that clip of you talking about that was dismayed by you acting like it's so uncommon for people to carry their equal weight in relationship. Adam bought me a designer bag for like one of my first birthdays when I was with him. And I was like, whoa. Like I freaked out. I just don't expect a guy to like, pay for my life or spend that much money on me.
Starting point is 02:41:41 I've always supported myself. I always had a job since I was like 15. And I told him, I was like, I'm going to buy a house. I don't know if you want to buy one, but I'm buying one and you can move in. And he was like, no, I'll buy it with you. And that's just kind of where it started from. It was like I helped him grow up. I moved into him into a house.
Starting point is 02:41:59 I made. Oh, man. Shout to Adam, man. I know he's a boss too, man. But yeah, no, different strokes of different folks. Feel me? It is life a little better, little by little, you know, woman's touch. But I also wouldn't want to rely on him because that gives me less options in my life.
Starting point is 02:42:17 You know, there's this joke online of women being like, I can't believe they convinced us that this is oppressive. And it's like the man is the provider and the women stays home. But it's like some men used to be really fucking abusive towards their wives and then they had no choice. Like I would never want to live off of just somebody else. You know, I think that would be really hard for me. And I think we both kind of envision a future at some point, whether it's, It's three years from now or five years or ten years or whatever. But there'll probably be a future where she kind of hangs up the porn thing,
Starting point is 02:42:45 not in full because obviously she'll still have OnlyFans and still probably shoot some photos and content or whatever. But there will probably come a time in which I carry more of the weight of the family as I'm still working and where she just, you know. Gang, she's just stunning all you the whole time saying she made more money than you. Hell nah. You should tell her to save. Because when you retire, you're going to still have to contribute the half, gang.
Starting point is 02:43:12 What the hell? You're still going to make me pay for half of everything. Well, I'm going to hold on. And by the way, I can't even shame Adam, too, because I'll be dating some chicks. They don't got a pot to piss. And, you know what I mean? So, you know, I can even, like, you know, a chick who's saying she come with that. Like, I think that's dope that she's down to pay for half.
Starting point is 02:43:28 The only thing is I'm going to keep it a being with you. I'm not hearing your mouth in the crib like that. Like, just not going to happen. But, and also, I know Adam cannot kick her out. But it works to them like they have a dope relationship. You know, if you make those choices, I haven't, let me tell this. You could tell when someone's soul is burning. I haven't seen Adam's soul burn.
Starting point is 02:43:50 Like, I've almost wondered if Adam got a soul. Because there's been times that I'm like, okay, that's where it's going to like fuck you up just as a person where I can see it in your eyes that hurts you. He don't give a fuck. Adam might be like literally Illuminati, bro. he like the niggis bragging about two scenes jason fucked her again and none he he's a little bit different bro but he's not black so and actually let me let me not even say that because white dudes really don't do that i got a lot of white friends they don't do that adam's different on to that for as long as possible yes but at some point let's say we have three more kids and
Starting point is 02:44:27 she's just home dealing with all that which is for sure a full-time job and i'm working day and day out then maybe that dynamic kind of changes but pay for all I prefer to know that like, you know, we're both doing well for ourselves. So it's not like, you know, we've never had to struggle to pay the bills. I'm wondering why they do like separate, like, why get married? Why get married if you're going to do like separate everything? Just become a business partner. I guess they have a kid.
Starting point is 02:44:59 I have a kid, but like there's a time I used to try to understand their relationship. Not out of hate. It was just like I really try to understand it. I don't get it But shit People probably have not Understand shit I've been in So it's okay
Starting point is 02:45:15 I'm alright You know I become a little bit more understanding I'm like nigga As long as it ain't mean right And even if it's me I'll be going through my own shit So fuck it
Starting point is 02:45:25 All right Vlad interviewing the drug dealers I like the judge math and shit What else is going on? I'm waiting for the drink song In 30 minutes if it drops. Oh, your shot to his page.
Starting point is 02:45:48 It's my favorite page. Watch, let me look at the comments. The comments are always going to be like, oh, be back. Okay, okay, cool. All right, yeah. Uh-uh. Look at these people.
Starting point is 02:46:07 Bro, I'm just hoping it's a hot song, bro. I'm hoping it's a hot song. Say, Joe Button points out that when a man like Kevin Sammo's gained fame for critiquing women that past his heavy scrutinized, scrutinized, whoever Dr. Dr. Bryant.
Starting point is 02:46:21 Who the fuck is Dr. Brian? I don't know that. Man, shit ain't been the same since Joe Bunn told y'allie's he making a million a month, huh? Shit ain't been the same since Joe told y'allie making a million a month. Oh, my God. All right. Hey, what's going on? All right, though, everybody must have took a break.
Starting point is 02:46:57 Everybody took a break. He's just me and Joe Bunn making content. And again, I think Joe is making a million a month. You know why? That boy putting out like 15 episodes on a Patreon on a week. Like, I'm going to be honest with you. Joe works just as much as me. Even though he does podcasts and we've been trying to stream every day.
Starting point is 02:47:14 He does as much. Like, I think I've done his podcast and he'll have like, oh, we're shooting three episodes episodes today. And I'm like, nigga, we're in an episode right now. It's four hours. He's like, nah, yeah, we're going to do a Patreon episode and then we're going to do this other episode. Like, Joe got this shit working like, like, he's like, 2014 Drake with the sweatshop. So I fuck with it.
Starting point is 02:47:36 I'll rock with it. I'm going to let Hallie Bailey live for a little bit. I'm going to let Hallie Bailey live, even though she did post the finish pictures. I'm going to let her live. I'm going to be honest with you, bro. I feel bad for surety now, bro. Like, it's just,
Starting point is 02:47:56 bro. You know what the craziest thing is? Like, somebody got to tap her on the shoulder and be like, yo, you're the least attractive girl that DDG's ever been with. Like, I got to keep it to pee with you. Like, I don't even want to do it to her, but it's just truth.
Starting point is 02:48:10 Like, yo, you're the least attractive girl. So when she's posted, you know what she's supposed to stun on them other girls with? Not thirst pictures. Like, you cannot get at your ex with thirst pictures when you're the least attractive girl he's been with. You got to get at your ex with the fact that he's with a bunch of new girls or whoever is his ex, and they're not as successful as you. You're the most successful girl he's got with. The rest of them are only fans, demons.
Starting point is 02:48:38 Yo, I hate to give you, like, free advice. I know you ain't asking, but please, Hallie, you're the least attractive girl DDG ever been with. We were looking like, we all thought we could pull you. I ain't going to cap with you. Like, you're just looking at you like, like, just look wise. Just look why. And I know I ain't looking either. It's cool.
Starting point is 02:48:56 It's cool. My success, me, I'll leave with success. But we've seen you compared to the rest of the baddies, because we all know, a nigger will date a bad bitch from McDonald's. We'll date a baddie from McDonald's. When we seen you, we was like, all right, DDG, we see the play. This is like, you know how girls will date an ugly nigger? Because the ugly niggins successful and got the bag, whatever. When we seen DDG where her, we're like, we get it.
Starting point is 02:49:24 I said it. I said it to reverse uno. Finally, niggas is dating up. I said it. Go back and pull a clip. I said it. Finally, niggas are dating up because we were all looking like, like Ruby Rose, you bad, but like, loki, you are a whole.
Starting point is 02:49:41 and low-key, like, your cell of vagina, like, you ain't got nothing going on. At least this chick, she's Rock Nation, Beyonce's protege, and she's an avatar or something shit like that. We're like, yo, bad, she's an upgrade.
Starting point is 02:49:54 She's going to make some, she's going to make tens of millions, but we got to keep it a bean. This, when we see, no disrespect. Notice respect. No disrespect. Somebody said,
Starting point is 02:50:07 now she's bad. Brough. Is she bad? Yeah, come on. bro. Like, D.D. Every girl D.D. she's been with. She's, she's worse. Come on now. Like, come on, bro. Like, stop with the bullshit. I'm not saying she's ugly.
Starting point is 02:50:19 She's not ugly. Come on, bro. Like, she's the, she's the, yo, at least, at least I got to educate. And by the way, there's nothing wrong with it. Because me, I just got to that phase of my life. I'm, I'm tired of looking at bad bitches. I want a bitch with a career. So any Jake that got a career, send your, send your LinkedIn to me. No more. Yo, Chase used to pull up on me. and send news. They'd just be like spread eagle. I'm like, holy, I like this.
Starting point is 02:50:45 Okay, what's the flight info? Fuck that. I'm off of that now. Send me your LinkedIn. Send me your LinkedIn. Listen, I've been going wrong for the longest time when you chase Instagram chicks is the worst. Now I want to see your career.
Starting point is 02:50:59 So, DDG didn't go wrong with her. Like, us men got to stop chasing looks and freaks and find the chick who's career is set up, whatever, whatever. who's not a hoe. The only thing is you can't have the career chick trying to be a hoe. When she's taking pictures like this, you're like, baby girl, if I was looking for the chick to take this type of picture,
Starting point is 02:51:22 I would have just got India love from the get-go. Or motherfucking, what's the other one named Ruby Rose? I liked you because you were a classic. That's it. All right. Y'all got to believe me. Somebody's like, what's going on with, what's going on with four extra?
Starting point is 02:51:46 Four extra's cooling, bro. I just found out about this. Well, no, actually I found about a while ago. He was screaming at some guy. You, you, blood, I'm about to kill you. Yo, I love, y'all love No Jumper, bro. I'm waiting to see somebody get gun-budded on No Jumper. That's the only thing I never liked about No Jumper is like, bro,
Starting point is 02:52:07 like, when are y'all going actually slap a nigga, bro? Almighty suspect was the only real nigga who did that. Everybody else, they just shouting, and I'm like, come on, bro. we watching no jumper for a crash out give a nigger a legos on camera I can't find it bro I can't see all right let me see they say guys hand I can't show the graphic image right was that fireworks up here my dog's going crazy right now I think fireworks started oh
Starting point is 02:52:38 it's a four extra reportedly blown off his hand damn damn off the back off the back get my nigga full four extra fingers off the batten all right now let me stop um i'm gonna be honest with you i'm terrified of fireworks and i don't know the extent of the injury uh four extra you're highly entertaining and i think you are a star stop bullying people though you're coming off like a bully but i hope
Starting point is 02:53:11 nothing too crazy happened to you um i always see like these really tragic injuries like how is this happening are they just are they detonating the the the firework in their hand. I think this is like blood all over his clothes and shit. I ain't gonna lie to you. This, like, this pose that he's in,
Starting point is 02:53:32 this is how you know a nigga really hurt, bro. Like this type of pose right here. Damn. You're not even going to lie to you. Your full extra. That nigga they put on no jumper. Unk or whatever his name is.
Starting point is 02:53:46 Bro. Yo, you could ask me about that. That nigga look like a Haitian nigga who do voodoo, bro. He probably voodooed you. Trust. That little dirty,
Starting point is 02:53:55 nigga they put on, that little dirty looking nigga, they put on, on, on, on no jumper. The one that, that looked like,
Starting point is 02:54:03 you know, he got halitosis and he looked like he needed to get, he didn't get a root canal, bro. Like, of course that, yo, he voodooed you,
Starting point is 02:54:10 bro. I could tell, just look at his face. He looked half-retarded. He voodooed you, bro. He, you said you was going to kill him,
Starting point is 02:54:18 and he voodooed you, and that's what happened now. I'm telling you. the little um nigger bro also yo for extra you got realized like when you had got at him that nigga's retarded like brother like there's he's retarded like all that shit the thing is fans love retards retards so it's like he's playing it up but like he's actually stupid so probably vood is you and they're gonna call the karma i hope nothing crazy happen imagine this happens you and all your friends just record you and post it on
Starting point is 02:55:05 line. I hate niggas, man. I hate niggas. I hate niggas. Yo, Britney runner is back. Holy. Yo,
Starting point is 02:55:23 alam dulae, or whatever I got to say. Yo, I have my Shalala like schedule for like four days or now, but I cancel that junk. Look at this. Look at this, y'all.
Starting point is 02:55:39 Look at this. Look at this. She popped off the burqa, nigger. She popped off the other shit and I ain't going to lie. Maybe it's Allah or Islam. But the ass ain't never been this fat. Nigger. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:55:57 Inshallah. Inshah, how is this? Yo, I ain't never see Bernie running ass this fat. Kevin Gates, I don't know what you did. Look like you did some spiritual, mirroal. This shit. Alam duly, what, oh my God.
Starting point is 02:56:15 Listen, I don't know if this is a, uh, uh, Islamic term by God. Oh my God. What the hell? Now, we all know that Brittany Renner was going to last like three, like three weeks. She actually beat the record. She lasted five weeks.
Starting point is 02:56:31 She's back on road, man. Brittany Renner back on road, man. Brittany Renner back on road, gang. Brittany Renner is back on road, bro. She is. Back on road, bro. She back on road. Holy.
Starting point is 02:56:50 Yo, yo, Brittany, I'm going to be honest with you. You got a secure one, though. You got a secure one. Because I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 02:56:56 The way out Brittany is, like, not its natural talent. You know what the crazy thing about it? Brittany's actually, she works out a lot, like she's actually natural. She's a natural chick.
Starting point is 02:57:11 with a B-Bee-L-type body, and she's, I think she's like 32 or something like that right now. I ain't trying to age-shame her, but Brittany, it ain't going to last forever. Trust me, gravity is a thing. And I know y'all be saying that alum do the law bullshit, but my God, my Baptist God, he ain't going to let that ass stay that fat forever. It's going to start drooping. Trust me, trust me, trust me.
Starting point is 02:57:34 Jehovah! It's going to make sure the ass don't stay up that high forever. Trust. Okay. You got two more years, maybe one. Get it together because you are going too crazy on that Muslim shit with motherfucking Kevin Gates. And the thing is, I guarantee you it was some stupid shit.
Starting point is 02:57:54 She was like, yeah, no, I became like, you know, I became, inshallah. I became the perfect girl for him thinking, yo, the Muslim shit be saying these niggas could have 10 bitches. Like, she was like, you see a chick like, Brittany Renner's going to be like, you think I was just following behind him for no reason? Yeah, dummy. Like, yeah, you're supposed to obey him while you go recruit three other chicks. That's how it goes.
Starting point is 02:58:25 But she's back on road. Okay. Okay. She's back on road. Nah, PJ Washington was having a time after life, man. So when I said, actually, you should become an officer and cuff that? I don't do with single mothers. I'm going to keep it to be with you.
Starting point is 02:58:44 I'm going to keep it to be in with you. I could date a single mother, but I can't take him serious. I tell every single mother, you need to go reconcile with your baby father. I don't believe in broken homes. It's the fact. I don't think no chick should have no kid out of wedlock. When I see a single mother, I'm going to be like, yo, listen, I'm going to have a good time with you. I'm going to beat it up.
Starting point is 02:59:10 I have a great time. But eventually, you got to take, you got to be a mother. I got no parts of that. You need to go find your, you need to go reconcile with a father. for your child. You picked them. I say, oh shit. I'm always on that. For real. That look like Russell Wilson? Never, man. But, you know, she's amazing. She's amazing. I think she was doing everything right. She should have just got that nigga PJ Washington to commit before she popped out of a kid.
Starting point is 02:59:48 It is what it is. Like put it like this. Like, I hate to even say, bro. yo let's see from a year from now Stefan Diggs and Cardi B Cardi B got three children bro brother when Nick is get with single moms bro Nick is just being in there like six flags my nigga whee! And as soon
Starting point is 03:00:14 as like they've been on the ride too much times, yo go back to your baby dads man you listen I got a new ride man like this is a new amusement park over there I'll be telling you I'll be like this is why I went and Tix and be like I'm outside I'm like you got kids you shouldn't be outside you should be in side looking, but whatever.
Starting point is 03:00:30 You see, I love, you know, we got new age mentality from women. They think they could be niggins. Go ahead. Go ahead. Your baby daddy, going to hate you because he, he mad. He mad that you violate him like this. And the new nigger, the new nigga, let me tell this. Every chick think there's more Russell Wilson's.
Starting point is 03:00:49 There's one Russell, nigga. Ain't no other niggott trying to come do that. Every other nigger, they get up in there. they start beating it up but they always get old after a year and then they realize oh shit for me to take to the next level I gotta be taking pictures with you and this little niggins and my little niggas
Starting point is 03:01:07 I'm good that's what I tell all baby moms listen first pick who I have kids with and then make sure like sometimes no matter what you made a decision you got to sometimes deal with as I told Cardi B
Starting point is 03:01:27 that's your cheater. Don't shame offset that's your cheater. Officers is a cheater. officer's a cheater but it's yours you picked him you had three kids with him you married him it's your cheater you know i mean don't be acting like oh no i'm just free and clear no got three kids with that boy you get what i'm saying but i'll see we'll see who's logic works because here's a thing no matter which nigger his these chicks be bragging about some new nigger my nigga that new nigger don't want to be around your kid that new nigger not trying to be a No father figuring your kid's life.
Starting point is 03:02:03 That new niggas trying to pipe you to fuck out. And trust me, his pullout game going to be on point, nigga, like getting out the starting blocks. You know what? He ain't trying to be stuck with you. Trust me, the new nigga fucking you after your baby dad is always thinking about, I ain't going to be like that dummy who actually put one in the gut. That's a fact.
Starting point is 03:02:24 I'm just sitting here. I'm sticking it moving. You ain't noticed none of these six of the single-baby moms ain't getting no. second kid only Joey Chavis. They ain't get no second kid by no other nigga. Fuck out of here. Niggins just beat it up until they get tired of him and be like, they start fireworks out here?
Starting point is 03:02:47 All right, we got 13 minutes before this goddamn song, man. But yeah, no, not me. You know, listen, she's going to be fine. She going to be fine. One thing I realized by a lot of women who, the older they get, they can't resist love bombing. Like, put it like this. The way how Kevin Gates was talking about
Starting point is 03:03:29 her, nigga, you'd have thought that she would have been pregnant, not divorced. Nick, Kevin Gaines probably with another young ting off the gram, just putting the work in telling the same bullshit to. Alam do la, all that same shit, bro. Getting heard, be like, yeah, I know, I know you got on that aloe, that fashion over. Hold on. Here's the Berka. This is the Louis V version.
Starting point is 03:03:50 You got to put that on and be with me. And he's going to be back in that. Bro, niggis is running game. This is my only thing about, like, women being so stupid about this. outside error is the dumbest shit ever because the idea that y'all are outside and y'all got niggies and bodies oh we love that we're gonna run that mileage up on you and send you home to your child and your baby daddy nobody's cuffing y'all niggas like seriously like nobody's putting none on your finger and to keep it real a smart nigga not put none of your gut it's over like when you see a
Starting point is 03:04:28 single mom like yo you got about six to six months to a year and yeah brittney runner back to the streets who's next here's the thing some other niggis gonna come in and gas lighter man i don't give a fuck by them other niggas man i don't give a fuck that you got a kid i don't go fuck by them baby daddy fuck that like your baby like i've never had a woman talk to me like this she's gonna be love 20 minutes again oh my god i'll do anything you want i'll just tattoo your name on my neck All right, man. He pipe you out for a year and he dips. Peace.
Starting point is 03:04:59 Same cycle. Y'all tell me if I'm wrong, man. But I'm not telling nobody. Stop. Let them keep going. But welcome Brittany render back. You know, she back on road. Yo, what's going on with Thug and Mariah the scientist, bro?
Starting point is 03:05:27 Like, yo, Thug. Yo, you got to Mariah side of the shit. Well, actually, let me not say that before you. Start beef with me. Start thinking I'm going to. But, yo, Thug. Bro, you on your first day out shit. Like, y'all can tell Doug get mad pressure from Mariah to scientists.
Starting point is 03:05:42 He's been putting out mad disclaimers and PSAs. He's trying to tell people like, yo, hey. Like, look, yo, he had put out a tweet like, yo, I'm going to never text no, I'm going to never like another girl pitcher. Doug, you're a rapper. You're rapper by whores. What do you mean? I'm not going to.
Starting point is 03:05:59 Yo, what's going on, man? Like, yo, listen, I know she held you down, but you got to start. Come on, Doug. Doug. I'm not saying you're supposed to leave her No type of shit like that What I'm saying is that Why thugs look like
Starting point is 03:06:13 It'd be sounding like Thug at gunpoint to shorthy Look he doing skits now Showing that he ain't going to cheat on her Look at this Yeah No I'm already situated I'm already having who I'm having Yeah she could be one of the brs
Starting point is 03:06:31 She can go for one of the bros though I'm already having one I'm having though Hold on somebody that's calling Yeah Who No, I'm already situated. Hello. Yo, Mariah the Sontas is on this niggas ass, bro.
Starting point is 03:06:51 Man, Twins just said the same thing on the other phone. I'm already having what I'm having, bro. I'm good. Give it to one of the bros. I'm having what I'm having. This is I know this thing is cheating profusely, because he's making skits now to try to make her happy. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 03:07:07 Thug must be wilding. I could imagine. Yo, Mariah, I hate to say it. And let me get my own business. Because the last time I got in somebody's business, this nigga got mad and then he got indicted. That was, that was Diddy. Diddy claim I was fucking up his pimp game.
Starting point is 03:07:24 Then he got locked up for sex traffic. I don't know what the fuck that was. But anyway, I'm going to stay out of your business, Thug. But is she pressing you about liking girls' pictures? Nick, you've been locked up for dumb long. You can't like a little ting's pitcher? It's all good, man. Just because we rock with you, Thug, this is why we said,
Starting point is 03:07:48 this young truly humbled under God. He's too long. Okay, Mariah, the scientist, he's too loyal. I say no more. Yeah, I perform tomorrow in Belgium. Nah, no, we're in Germany, right? Yeah, yeah, I perform in Germany tomorrow. Big festival.
Starting point is 03:08:06 Yeah, no kissing. Hello. Hmm, interesting. Interesting. What else is going on? Trippy locked up. Holy. Is this real hair? Why does this hair look like this? look like this. It was locked up with a bench warrant, which I even know
Starting point is 03:08:34 they would do. He had a bench warrant and he was taking the custody of Miami International Airport after U.S. customers and boarders stopped him while he was boarding a flight to Poland for a performance. They discovered he had an active bench warrant stemming from a 2023 charge of driving without a valid license.
Starting point is 03:08:51 I didn't know they did shit like that. I had no idea. All right, let me see if this song's about his drop, man. Chat, my bad. This hasn't even been like I wouldn't consider this a proper shoe. I'm just chatting. Talking shit. All right, what else is going on?
Starting point is 03:09:28 Some Trump shit. Talked about that. Let's go to Shady Room, bro. It was Asian daughter pregnant for real? Is she pregnant for King Vaughn or no? You know, is she pregnant? I haven't going to say nothing bad about her. She got it.
Starting point is 03:10:01 Yo, is, is Neo still dating those four chicks? How he got a anniversary, one of them, but not all of them. Okay. Whatever. Is this Taraji P. Henson?
Starting point is 03:10:44 She don't got a husband? Bowell. All right. Whatever. All right, let's see what Drake got going on, man. This song going to drop. I need to hear this song. If this song fire, we're out of here, chat. I'm going to be honest with you. If this song fire,
Starting point is 03:11:34 It's a good way to end all that not like us bullshit, but if this song is mid, I don't know. Now Drake, I know he ain't coming with no mid shit. I know he ain't coming to a mid shit. My four U page look crazy. What is this? If you think all the federal cases that have been coming to New York, you just think about if you don't have the money, like if you don't have the money or you're not cooperating and you're not walking away.
Starting point is 03:12:22 I feel like, man, they want him, they won't, I feel like he's more of an asset out here. He's like a hip hop, a hip hop Jeffrey Epstein. Like, what are we going to do with him in jail? That's why I could never see him in jail. It just didn't feel right. And even if he was working for them, he'll be more of an asset if we had on the outside. What are we going to do with him in here? I just felt like he stepped out of the line.
Starting point is 03:12:43 He had some information that he wouldn't really, he wouldn't give up. And I think they got him for it. And I think he paid for his freedom because somehow the name went from a billion and 400 million dollars you get what I'm saying let me tell you how easy let me tell yourself and this I don't even like to speak like because if they wanted to prosecute ditty for for reciteering it would have been evident from the beginning like my name I ain't answer a phone since the man got locked up and this on my son so I haven't answered a number I didn't know because once I
Starting point is 03:13:14 heard racketeering I kind of felt like the feds at fizzle try to reach out you get what I'm saying being that everybody, it's been going viral that he made a threat to me and the reason I left the group and all that other shit. Just if they wanted to prove that he was running a criminal organization through bad boy, you know, at least, I mean, the least they would have dealt was reached out to people like me, Gloria, I mean, Laurian Gibson, all the people, the car P.S. The people that worked for him. It got 20 years of history that they could have went back. And at the least, at the least, Yeah, Freddy P.
Starting point is 03:13:53 With all due respect, he left y'all niggas at the studio and left y'all niggas at the shows. He was not trying to do hotel nights while y'all were around, brother. Okay? Like, I'm going to be honest with y'all. Y'all may have an idea that he was up to shit,
Starting point is 03:14:10 but he was not trying to do freakoffs around a bunch of dusty niggas from the band. Okay? I'm sorry to tell you. I hate it. Like, Lori Gibson is not going to know nothing about a freakoff dog. I'm sorry, bro. Neither are you.
Starting point is 03:14:23 Like, you might know that he smashed a couple of people, but you're not going to know the extent of, remember, they're saying racketeering for sex trafficking, not racketeering for, like, murder. Police interviewed these people. They didn't make an effort because it was never about keeping Diddy in jail. It was the scared duty to give up that information. It was the scared deity and to get,
Starting point is 03:14:49 and to humble. Diddy and to ruin his reputation. If they wanted Diddy gone, he'll be gone. That's kind of like, now remember who you worked for. He's going to be back out here. I've been told people because he's too valuable. He's an asset to the CIA or the FBI or something. You got to think about it.
Starting point is 03:15:08 A man who got that much information, information is power. That's why Jeffrey Epstein is somewhere in Israel right now where everybody thinks he did. K2 is a hell of a drug man. What the hell is Freddie P. right now, man. I've listened to Freddie P. And we've spent some knowledge before. What are you talking about Jeffrey Epstein's in Israel? You get what I'm saying? He's too much
Starting point is 03:15:35 power. Too much information. And I think Puffy had too much, he had information on the wrong people. You get what I'm saying? Because if you want to prove first of all, they got assistance. They never called up to the stand. They never reached out to people
Starting point is 03:15:53 that worked for him and was put under those harsh conditions in the environment. They never reached out to the people at the least you got you got underage women who've accused them at the least interview on if you really want a prosecution I've seen the fairs work if you really want a prosecution at the least go hear their voice they don't want they they didn't even give an opportunity to the people who could have put them away they didn't want that to be paraded and barraged around the courtroom that wasn't that
Starting point is 03:16:25 That wasn't an objection. That wasn't an objective. The objective was for whatever they came up with in that back room. And I'm not knocking them, man, you know, because like I said, it was all for me, it was like, you know, it's kind of, you don't want to see the law system win, but then sometimes you want to see a naked they just deserve. But like I said, if they wanted to prosecute, I could have done a better job. The New York justice system is there's these. We have DAs all over this world, prosecutors, and they're laughing at that case. No, they're not.
Starting point is 03:17:02 It's the best fucking place in earth, S-D-N-Y. Let me see what, oh, Drake got like a link. Let's see. Drake got a link. Let's see. He got something scheduled? Oh, wow. Iceman, episode one.
Starting point is 03:17:22 Okay. Ain't it supposed to start right now? Oh, is he going live? Drake, don't waste my fucking time. What am I waiting on? And how many people are waiting on this shit? It's like an episode type thing, huh? Drake put this on his Instagram, so something should be happening.
Starting point is 03:18:48 Yeah, we're on the page that he pretty much posted. Does it say how many people are watching? I think it does. It's going to, right? All right, my neighbors is going crazy now. Y'all can hear all the fireworks. What am I waiting for? God damn, they're going crazy.
Starting point is 03:20:38 That's my neighbor, too. Bamba Claude All right, I bet Finally Oh wow Alright, let me just take a shot Did I finish our whole thing Before?
Starting point is 03:21:28 By the way, thank y'all for giving me credit For the Little Rod interview That was good, right? Appreciate y'all I don't know what I'm waiting for All right, Drake just wasting our time Actually not I know, he's gonna draw something good
Starting point is 03:22:09 It's probably gonna be classic Where's the cover to this shit? If you schedule like a song or like a video to drop it just drops right like what the fuck taking the shit so long that's 9.2 likes right now
Starting point is 03:22:55 how many people are waiting I might have to hit this motherfucker like yo what's up bro we just waiting for whatever the fuck Drake got going on bro I have no idea I wish I knew shit ain't start here
Starting point is 03:24:14 yeah you got to be you got be alive maybe it's him and Katsin that It's Kyle live. It's Kyle live, y'all. Maybe some of Kai. No.
Starting point is 03:24:41 You wouldn't settle for bait, man, when there's... Stay tuned. They got 10K lights on here now. 10K lights. We can't see how many people are tapped in, but whatever. Wait, is this how y'all are like when y'all are like when y'all waiting for me? I'm like so impatient tonight because it is July 4th. fireworks are happening.
Starting point is 03:26:15 I'm like, bro, I feel this thing is wasting my time. But then I realize, I'm like, this is exactly how the chat niggas feel when you put a time and you show five hours later. I'm like,
Starting point is 03:26:29 I finally understand chat. I never knew this is how you felt. I never knew. I never knew. But now I know. I never knew. Nicole Harris, what up? Think of the five.
Starting point is 03:26:49 It says, if you type shit in Apple music, DDG comes up. Why? What's going on with him and Reggie? He says, intervene. Nah,
Starting point is 03:26:55 nah, I'm not intervening. None of them niggies problems. Here's the thing. The reason why that comes up for DDG is that, um, I think some song or something on, because you know lyrics pop up,
Starting point is 03:27:15 right? Like you can search lyrics on, on Spotify. Somebody in their lyrics sheet, put that there. Am I back in the May back out? Yo, I haven't backed the Mayback out in a year. I'm about to do it.
Starting point is 03:27:40 I'm about to do it. I look nice today, Shelly? Oh, thank you. Thank you, Shelly. Betty, I also understand I've been trying to get better at it. By the way, you know, I've been streaming a lot more now. You remember when I used to just like set a time and not stream at all? That was fucked up.
Starting point is 03:28:10 That was fucked up. I was set of time and I'm like, nah, I'll be like two hours late. and then two hours comes like I'll be another hour late and then the hour comes and I'm like nah I'm gonna just stream tomorrow that was fucked up yeah I'm the only one work
Starting point is 03:28:28 yo Lana what's good with you Lana K was good Bianca Leslie I see your comment girl do we have to say it do we have to say it do we have to say it what do you think
Starting point is 03:28:43 it's my says act OZempic does work what yo y'all posted a picture yesterday people like yo act you looking good you're losing weight today i woke up and i looked in the mirror so i took turd off took me i'm like nah i saw my belly what's y'all niggins talking about uh it says episode one i don't know i don't know if this is uh i'm guessing it got to be like a video i don't know i don't know and by the way here's the thing chat um for this rollout
Starting point is 03:29:14 purposely chef thank you for the two says just been back in fist what that's what you've been do it. Yo, so for, for, for, for, for, for, um, this rollout, I'm gonna be honest with y'all. Bro, I, I've been the first and y'all. Y'all know me and Drake are cool. But I'm gonna be honest with you. I want to feel like a fan again. Like how I felt when Scorpion dropped.
Starting point is 03:29:43 Not that I, like, because I ain't gonna a lot. Like, during the battle, me and him were super tapped in with a lot of stuff. Like, we talked a lot. And I felt like I was like part of a team more than like a fan. I want to be a fan again. And yeah, I could just hit him up and ask him like, like, what the fuck? But like, bro, I want to feel like a fan. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:30:04 Because I am a fan. Like I love his music. And I want to have like authentic reactions to it. Not him like, yo, act, yo, check this out. Like, fuck that. I want to. And if I'm not that impressed, I want to be able to be like, nah, now you got to come a little bit harder, pause.
Starting point is 03:30:18 So I'm not even going to ask him anything about it, Even though I hope he doesn't drop like at midnight. What the fuck? Somebody said nine people I'm cutting the stream. Yo, I'm missing on mad fireworks right now. Jeez. Yo, condoneses to anybody losing their hand today, man. How do these people be losing their hands to fireworks?
Starting point is 03:30:55 I swear, I want to hit him and be like, Nico says, yo, act, you invited to the next cookout. Yo, Nico! Where are you at? Yo, who's really good on the grill, bro? But I wanted some lit-ass barbecue, like some burgers, some like, you know what I mean, chicken legs. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:31:11 Like, I really wanted some good shit today, man. Nobody invited me, though, bro. That's crazy. You said, because people, wait, I thought the number one rule of fireworks don't hold it in your fucking hand. Like, how are people losing their limbs? Now, I kind of feel bad for that, though. Like the four extras thing, I seen the unedited picture.
Starting point is 03:31:39 That got to be AI. Because I think I've seen bone. It looked like it just erupted off. Like what type of firework is that? That nigga wasn't lying to firework. It was like to nuke. What the hell? Somebody said throw a chat BBQ.
Starting point is 03:31:56 Of course I would throw a chat BBQ. But half of you niggas barely came to my birthday party. I had to beg y'all. Y'all ever had like a firework, like, um, accident? Any YB update? Um, yeah, I was supposed to link with him yesterday. They told me he went to Amsterdam. got on a plane, went to Amsterdam.
Starting point is 03:32:26 That's why I knew the album wasn't coming out. I hit him from the morning and said, yo, we feel like go to Amsterdam later. And I said Amsterdam, I'm like, I know you're not going to Amsterdam because he was in New York. I know you're not going to Amsterdam to drop the album, bro. You know one of the ones? What the phone?
Starting point is 03:32:55 Doesn't I have connectivity? Mad people just hit me just now. I just got like 18 DMs just now. How do fuck that work? Yo, Drake, come to hell on, bro. All right, man, Drake is doing the most today. Holy shit. Drake's trying to be Cardi.
Starting point is 03:34:27 I'm gonna highlight Republic. I gotta find out the T, man. I heard they don't fuck with him. That's what I heard. But, like, obviously, they still do business with him. Like, if he says he wants something, they'll do it. But, like, he's not their fave. So I gotta figure out the dynamics.
Starting point is 03:34:48 You got to figure out the dynamics of the Drake universal relationship right now. I got to figure out the T. I got a few people that I could find it out from But I wouldn't be able to give you out direct sources I would have to act like I barely heard it And so when's the next freak off? Well, did he supposed to get out in October? So you know what it is?
Starting point is 03:35:20 Skepta? Yeah, I heard that. Zahub. I heard Skepta wants the UK versus UK clash. And I was just like, yo, skepta, who are you trying to clash, brother? Yo, like we love Skepta. We love the UK. but when Skepta says he wants the UK versus U.S. clash in terms of rappers,
Starting point is 03:35:39 I'm like, are you trying to get like one of them little men's to clash y'all or y'all want the giants? Because respectfully, when you say UK versus the U.S. Skepta, I hate to even say it. I guess maybe the best in clashes or beef we have right now is Kendrick. Kendrick would done all you, niggies combined. I'm going to be honest with you. So, like, who are you? you calling out. Don't say UK
Starting point is 03:36:06 versus U.S. Because we do U.S. is like Olympics. Like, yeah, I might not be not the biggest Kendrick fan, but it's like it's still the U.S., gang. You feel me? Well, actually, with Drake, not the U.S. Drake is Canada. Yeah, get Drake out of here. It's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got mad
Starting point is 03:36:22 yo. Y'all U.K. niggas, we got mad niggas to give you out of the beats. That's what I'm saying. What type of U.S. rapper you want to get? You know what I'm saying? Have I talked to Birdman about what lawsuit? What lawsuit? Why the fuck did the UK just like, yo, oh, we want to, we want to
Starting point is 03:36:40 battle, obviously, it's some so they do what's called clashes, it's like sport, right? Like, oh, we just want a friendly competition. But I'm like, yo, the U.S. niggas would wash y'all. Like, I love y'all niggas in the UK. Well, y'all niggas is twigit. I hope I could go to wireless.
Starting point is 03:36:56 Still, don't get mad at me at wireless. Don't try to, you know, sketch I rock with you, but like, come on, bro. Oh, so Drake just not going to jot this shit. So Drake just not going to drop this, huh? We're not sending Jonah Lucas. All right.
Starting point is 03:38:30 My niggas now tell me it's 10 p.m. You know, what is going on, bro? I'm hearing he's going to go live at 10, but at this point it might be like an academic stream, man. You hear 10 is really 11. You wait until 11, and then it says, yo, reschedule to tomorrow. It looks like he's trying to go live, though.
Starting point is 03:40:13 So, bro, you stay there for car, you can stay up for Drake. man, Drake going, yo, I don't even know if he's dropping a song. What did I take away from the Little Rod interview? The things people would do for money, man. I'm going to be honest. What I took away from the Little Rock interview was, be careful who you fuck over. Be careful who you fuck over.
Starting point is 03:40:47 And when I say fuck over, I don't mean actually fuck over. I'm going to keep it a hundred what I think about this little rod thing. I think Diddy, if you see how he moves, we watch it, we just went through a whole, like, real litigation, and we watched a criminal litigation of them trying to put him in jail for life. Bro, Diddy had a million things going on, man. He had other people dealing with stuff. He was a workaholic. He always tried to push people. He kind of was an asshole, and he definitely was abusive at times.
Starting point is 03:41:16 Bro, I would be honest with you, I think Diddy, like, whatever this guy, I think this guy only has a gripe with Diddy because he ain't. didn't feel like he got paid for working on the album. He felt like he really put blood, sweat, and tears in the album. Did he ain't pay him? And he was trying to get his money, but Diddy was still blowing him off. That's one of those things where I realize is like sometimes, you know, I'm going on. Like, you know how many times? Like, I'm giving you on real situations.
Starting point is 03:41:43 You know how many times like, bro, like, I'm not even thinking about some small shit sometimes. Like I got a million things going on. My sister hits me like five times. Yo, you didn't pay the security for that, da, da, and I'm like, I'm going to get to it. But I'm not thinking like, yo,
Starting point is 03:41:57 I ain't going to tell you how much I pay, but it's just like money. I'm not thinking that that little money I'm about to pay, I should have paid the security for that one day
Starting point is 03:42:04 that they was with me for 12 hours or whatever. That shit means the world to them. They need that shit to give it to their girl. I'm not thinking about it. You get what I'm saying? But I'm not being an ass.
Starting point is 03:42:14 Like, I just have so much shit going on. Imagine then that nigga just be like, yo, okay, say I'm lagging two, three days on it. Now that nigg is like, Fuck, act, man. Man, I was there with him when niggas was trying to do A, B, C, and D.
Starting point is 03:42:29 Fuck him. That's who I kind of get with this little Rite lawsuit. Like, I don't even think Diddy was not trying to pay him. Now, I don't, I think Diddy contest that he didn't, he's not as intrical as he thinks he is. But I think he is owed some money. But here's the thing. I think him being owed some money, bro, it turned into resentment. Like, bro, like, you know I've been around when you was fucking all type of girls and you was doing A, B, C, and D.
Starting point is 03:42:53 and you just had a lawsuit like, why would you, why don't you just give me my little 30 grand? Like, what the fuck is up with you? So now Little Rock gets into some other shit. Bro, you had people groping me, sucking my dick on when I ain't want to. That becomes the basis of Diddy's house getting searched. And then when you look at that,
Starting point is 03:43:13 you kind of look at it to be like, yo, bro, that's how sometimes a small thing could become a big issue. if Diddy had just probably And I'm pretty sure he asked Diddy mad times Yo Bro like I need this bro Yo in Diddy's world 20,000 is like dirt
Starting point is 03:43:33 To him The nigga probably is old to me like yo You Diddy I need that bro I need it like the niggas getting evicted The niggas mom is pressing him The nigga baby mom's taking him to court All type of shit going on in this thing is like Diddy's just he thinking about the next freak off
Starting point is 03:43:48 The next business meeting he thinking about going to this show going to there or I'm going to cans bro after a while the nigga despises him 100% this little rod nigga is only mad at he not mad at Diddy for no sexual shit? He made that shit up
Starting point is 03:44:03 he mad at Diddy because Diddy ain't pay that nigga bro? That's what I took from it and it just remind me I'm like damn bro Did he just wasted like $30 million on a lawsuit on a criminal case Yo, that nigger probably was on Diddy's ass for 20,000.
Starting point is 03:44:24 Actually, I got the number in the lawsuit. He just wanted like $30,000. And he felt Diddy stift him on it. Because Diddy stiffed him on 30 bands, the nigger made up all this other shit. And I'm not saying made up everything, but like he contextualized it in a sex trafficking Rico shit that got Diddy House rated.
Starting point is 03:44:45 Diddy get locked up and has to spend $30 million. Sometimes a person. problem you could cure with $10, ends up costing you $1,000. Chat, can I get the one in the chat if you know I'm talking about me? I don't got to be something like this. But sometimes, like, it's not even you trying to play with nobody. It's just like you got a lot of shit going on.
Starting point is 03:45:03 It's like a bill. Like, yo, you could have paid the bill on time. It's not like you broke. Like, yo, whatever, whatever. Next thing, that shit, that collection agency. Now it decreased your credit. Now when you get in a car, like, you used to be able to put $5,000 on a car but now they're asking you for
Starting point is 03:45:20 25,000 because your credit got ruined from that one little bill bro you had the money for the bill you just ain't doing that's what I think this is bro like the little rod shit but bro once that nigga told me he said I don't even think that nigga should go to jail for the rest of his life
Starting point is 03:45:36 I'm like all right this nigga choking he's joking it's like yeah I just think he was on some shit like I just think he need to get taught a lesson bro I niggas supposedly you try to rape you and you want him to get taught a lesson man Like, come on, bro. Like, come on, dog.
Starting point is 03:45:53 That's what your takeaway was. A nigga tried to take your booty and your mentality's. Wait, does something just happen? It's live. It's live. It's live, Chad. Oh, we here. It's live.
Starting point is 03:46:10 The nigga tried to take your booty. And you're talking about you need to get taught a lesson. Like, come on, gang. Now, this is alive. It says Iceman. Did I see that? It's an ice man right here. Iceman, ice man, ice man.
Starting point is 03:48:00 Iceman, ice man, you're that's me. What happened that, nigga? All right, then. R block was popping. We got $10,000 on YouTube, $5,000 on kick. And we got like a ban on R block, I think. That's what the numbers told me. Let me go check.
Starting point is 03:50:12 Yo, I think Drake aura farming right now, bro. That's what they call it. Oura Farming. Like he's just leaving the live on that niggins could join up type shit, you know? Why in a warehouse of Drake? All right, let me try to do some investigation. Oh, another angle. All right, let's see what it says.
Starting point is 03:51:29 416. How much viewers do you have? You what the fuck? Drake is live? It doesn't even show how many viewers he has. Nah. Drake is definitely Illuminati. Everybody that goes live and shows the view count.
Starting point is 03:52:09 Drake live don't show no view count. That's crazy. How come we don't see how many viewers he got? Chat, you could tell how many viewers I got it? Look, let's refresh. Look, Star Streaming six minutes ago doesn't say viewers. Let me show the difference between that and my chat. On King Academics, we only got three and a half.
Starting point is 03:52:44 Let's refresh. We only got three and a half. 3,500 watching. Right? The Academy been killing it recently. The Academy. The Academy.
Starting point is 03:52:57 How much you got over there? We got 6.6. Over there. 6.6K. You'll be able to tell. Right here. Drake streaming? No view count.
Starting point is 03:53:12 Illuminati shit. Maybe him and YouTube linked up? He must have linked up with YouTube or some shit. What the fuck? Is this an ice? Well, that's in the fridge, huh? Now, this is not even like a skit. Somebody says, giving Dexter.
Starting point is 03:54:41 Yo, chat, I'm so fucking mad. Dexter got taken off Netflix. Netflix, you got three months to put Dexter back on, or you're not getting my money no more. I've watched Dexter 2,000 times. I watch it every day. If you don't put Dexter back on Netflix, I'm done. I'm not watching No Love Island and shit like that.
Starting point is 03:55:02 What I look like? I ain't a lot. Every girl I know watching Love Island. What's up with Love Island, bro? Chat, should I be watching Love Island? Yo, there's one tree shot of Miami. She keeps texting me all day. She looks good, though.
Starting point is 03:55:19 But she's like, yo, hey, babe. And I'm always thinking she's like, yo, I'm trying to give you some pussy. So I'm like, what's good? You know what I mean? Like, low key, I've been waiting to hit it. Chat, I'm keeping it on it. So I'm like, what's good? And she's like, do you know anybody you could get me on Love Island?
Starting point is 03:55:37 I'm like, bitch, what are you talking about? Bitch, what? Bitch, keep asking me for that shit, man. about a blocker stupid ass, man, keep asking about a fucking love island, man. I'm gonna, fuck you name this. Could you get me on Love Island? What the fuck are you talking about, man?
Starting point is 03:55:52 Fucking whore. Just keep asking me about that shit. Like, oh yeah, I don't want to get on Love Island. You have any connections for Love Island? Bitch, I don't even know what that is. Nah, I got familiarized a little bit, but it's fucking horror. Just keep asking me about Love Island, man.
Starting point is 03:56:06 She was hit me, she's like, on some late night. I'm like, oh, it's lit. It's lit. Yes Yes Ha ha ha Bitch I could get her on Love Island man Fucking scally wagg
Starting point is 03:56:26 Is that Love Island Shikudo? Oh yeah I think y'all seen like some shit Okay let me see what I said Act look at the back of the truck That had Iceman I think that's the track listing Huh? Right
Starting point is 03:56:57 You think that's the track list right there? Right? Niggia we could not see it Well, good observation, though. Good observation. Good observation. You back live. My dogs are doing bananas. All right, man. What is Drake show? All right, hold on. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 03:58:54 Oh, we can get a better picture here. No, it says package ice, dry ice, ice machines, ice sculptures, and bottle of water. Yo, chap, my man works over there. You want me to hit my man? Oh, I haven't been going to lie. My man works there. Chap, my man works there Like, I'm gonna go live My man works there, Chad You know, you know I got all Toronto men's, right?
Starting point is 03:59:49 Who just walked past? Oh, that's him? Oh. Oh, shit. Aubrey! Does I know this album go on a classic? Drake hit up YouTube and tell him not to put the views on. That's a play.
Starting point is 04:00:22 Drake hit up YouTube. This is the only stream with no views, nigger. There's no views. Drake hit up YouTube. There's no views. Got mad camera angles. This looks mad official. It says episode one.
Starting point is 04:00:38 I don't even want to ask Drake about nothing else. Drake, we about to do a million in the week. Back to doing a millie. Back to doing a millie, y'all. We back. We back. Aubrey fans, we back.
Starting point is 04:00:49 We back. We back. We locked back in, bro. All that, not like us. That shit is two years old. Get that nigga to fuck on out of here, bro. Aubrey is back, bro. Aubrey.
Starting point is 04:01:01 Yo, how did Drake go? Remember when Drake, it looked like he had cut his ear and went back to the regular shit? How he back to the Braves again? How Drake back to the braids? Did he never cut it? Pause. One more time.
Starting point is 04:01:16 No, did he? All right, let's get back to live. Ooh, that missed him again? Pause. What fuck Drake got going on? Yo, if Drake gets artistic, let me tell this. Drake makes the best music of everybody.
Starting point is 04:02:32 Nicky like Kendrick, all he knows how to do is rap. But Kendrick is really good at like some artistic presentation. If Drake does some artistic presentation and makes the best music, because he always does, it's cook for everybody in the game. You have always said, this is why we need a Drake album, executive produced by Kanye, because Kanye is going to actually put the art aspect on Drake shit and make it look so fly. It's going to be the best album of all time. If Drake does this finally, without Kaya does it by himself, throw Kenny in the bushes.
Starting point is 04:03:08 Kung Fu, get out of here. He's the goal of all time. I can see, this is the first time I'm seeing like, because I ain't going to lie, the pregnant belly on the fucking billboard were trashed. They were definitely trash. Drake is actually being cryptic, mythical, but kind of doing like art. Oh, Joe, Joe. the boy is back The boy is back
Starting point is 04:03:32 Yeah LSP says this is the crap That may people bash Anything Drake put out first And 11 a month later You're doing too much act Not everything gonna be a hit Now I need everything
Starting point is 04:04:07 Bro this is Drake we're talking about It's like LeBron Yo LeBron makes it to the finals And don't win It's a failure If motherfucking Jalen Brunson makes it to the finals
Starting point is 04:04:18 It's like yo Hipp and hooray Who cares about Jellin Brunson We're talking about the goats Hold on me see Ooh, okay. Here we go. What's on the TV? What's on the TV chat? What's on the TV? For the next 15 summers. Had girls in music. Nah, drinks to go. I don't know. City is his.
Starting point is 04:05:21 City is yours. Get dirty, man. It's the truth right here. Drake. Shot to my boy, Lely. I'm in the studio right here. I'm trying to put him on. I don't know if Nick told you, but I write all a Nick. Thanks rhymes. You know what I'm saying? You're co-signing with Chautil. You know what it is.
Starting point is 04:05:39 I'm ready. I'm sure, boy, man. I shop there. I shop there. It doesn't stop there. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna tell you about my city. Because, you know, I feel like I say city is mine, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 04:05:54 And I bet people are like, I want to have you know about my city. You know what I'm saying so? Check. I'm from a city where people be getting to grow in the show and they face a briefings. Ladies, least me see. in the region and recommendations and regions of people making that changing and spending places and beasts from summers before they were places the summer races Memphis and rebel dammit show people your brown is money here they just quick and
Starting point is 04:06:15 see it and claiming it's kind of funny they bond till they're living in the center saying and they tried and they take the two on the ground in the chat with reality you're famous chill at a house people say this water Bcciara hundred diari or somebody that they get called a on for that big i G rather say i sound like her and instead of see i see on me it kind of gets repented like people go on passage on I mean I be projected some Maxis I'm just saying that I'm busy rapping my city yo
Starting point is 04:06:49 Yeah everything when they come from my old video Yell into Metro acts is funny Virginia No opinion is thing why these artists I'm in a video Soundshot the chaos Socrates and Moriarty boy one to and dream And detain you know for show we party Julie Black Project counselor, sinners with a tuli strap
Starting point is 04:07:05 States dudes who frequently visit But never knew we rap Glen Lewis makes sure you put it down When you're truly mad By the way my name is drinking This is your fact, go on.

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