DJ Akademiks Live Streams - Diddy home for the Holidays?

Episode Date: November 23, 2024

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Let me go do some updates on the Diddy stuff real quick. Let's do this for the next couple of minutes and then I'll come back. All right. Yo, I'm going to be in Discord, but I'm going to be muted up for a few seconds and I'm going to come back. All right. All right, cool. All right. So this is what's going on live right now.

All right. This is right now. So Didi, there's a, we're going to see Diddy's now argument for bail. And it says, will the third time be a charm after the NBC is sweeping photos? Here we go. So now they're in the courtroom and they said, Diddy's attorney, Tony Richel, which, by the way, this is one of the guys who was to supposedly have joined Diddy's team for the appeal.

He's come back into the gallery to speak with Diddy's supporters. So Diddy's lawyers actually went in the gallery, which is outside the courtroom, to speak with supporters of Diddy who's gathered. Alexander Shapiro, which is also one of the attorneys that supposedly specifying, in the appeal process. They're sitting in two, but they're sitting reading from a binder. There's four prosecutors in a row,

and there's a drum roll, and Diddy walks in. He's brought in wearing an NBC uniform, and he makes a point of hugging his lawyer, Mark Agnifilio, then he's sitting and chatting with Rico, right? A re-show. I don't know if I'm saying it right.

So while we wait for the judge, we're noting that his lawyers are sitting in the middle of three tables. So the two U.S. Marshals, rather than directly behind the defendant, as is usually the case, they're on the sides, okay? So, yeah, they're just talking about how it's set. It's an all-rise.

And I guess that's when the judge comes in. And then the lawyer, Rico, says, the family of Mr. Sean Lovecombs are here. They travel in the long way. I guess they couldn't make it into the courtroom. It's probably packed in there, right? The judge says, thank you for being here. and I don't know if he addressed that,

but they jump into the immediate matter. So, you know, tell me about the legal pads. Now, remember this whole thing with the legal pads is that the judge is wondering if did he lawyer lied to him because they purported that the stuff that the government went through that was seized and did he sell had legal written on it, which was a clear indication that it was attorney-client privilege and stuff to do with his case,

except they went through it, took pictures of it, and claimed he was sending messages to have people paid off. So the judge looked at the sealed exhibit of the photos taken from the cell and said, I don't see no legal on this. You told me, Corey says legal. So what's up? So he's asking about that. So Diddy's lawyer says, the first time I saw them was Tuesday.

Hmm. So he looked like he's backpedaling a little bit, right? So the first time I saw him was Tuesday. He said, as we sit here today, I'm not too sure when legal was written on each of them. Okay? I'm trying to get to the bottom of it. Different members of the defense team was telling him to write legal. on the pads, there's a photo of a pad without legal on it.

So essentially, there's a conversation or a question to say, did the prosecutors, not prosecutors, did the defense attorney or did he try to finesse the court after they got caught trying to send messages covertly to bribe witnesses or pay off witnesses, after they got caught, they wrote legal on it, which is like, yo, you're lying to the court. Now, that's a huge deal. So it says it's clear that on the November 1 sweep, they did not all say legal. So apparently some said legal, we're not sure, but apparently not all of them said legal. The judge said the pad you handed to me, did it say legal on it?

Wow. Then he says, I'm not sure. This is going to get a little spicy here because, you know, one thing about a judge, the judge realizes that, you know, when you're a member of the bar, you are sworn to, operate like an officer of the court damn there and you're not supposed to be in court lying i don't care how much your damn um client is paying you're not supposed to be lying to the judge right okay all right so we're just waiting on some more tweets but apparently the judge is now grilling ditty's lawyer oh here we go and then we have another tweet says so what's the

status of Combs' laptop. And that's the judge asking the prosecutor, Miss Christine Slavik, Mary Christine Slavik, says the laptop is for him to review the discovery of the MDC. The idea is to preload the information that he's allowed to have at the MDC on the laptop. There is a protective order. Okay? So they're kind of trying to sort out what he's supposed to have in jail, what he's not supposed to have is the stuff that the prosecutor is claiming, which is, yo, they're making

specific claims of what they found in Diddy's cell, they think is Diddy trying to pay off coerce or threaten a witness? Is that what's going on? Right? So the judge is trying to make sense of this. By the way, this is all going to matter because the judge today is going to rule if Diddy's going to get bail and if Diddy doesn't get bail, he pretty much is going to have to sit for a few months, right? Remember, this new bail application came after they claimed they got discovery.

And that was the new evidence that they said they wanted another bail application or bail hearing for and they'd got it. So if they get told no now, they got to wait until the appeal goes through that's already been put in. And that might take two months or three months or whatever the case is, but we would assume he'd be locked up for the rest of the year, at least. And then when that circuit court either grants the appeal or denies it. We'll see what happens then. But if they deny the appeal, essentially, Diddy is damn near done until,

Diddy would be pretty much almost done until the end of the trial. Now, granted, they could do more appeals or more applications, but the likelihood of that just keeps dwindling, dwindling, dwindling. And then you kind of just end up wasting the time of the court and the judge and also prolong your case and probably give a bitter taste in the judge's mouth

about what you got going on. You know what I'm saying? Okay. All right. Yeah, so if you guys don't know about federal court, there is no, there's no cameras in there, so they're on standby. I believe that law and crimes is on hand.

They have the MDC on the laptop. There is a protective order. Interesting they're talking about this because one of the arguments put forward by Sean Combs' defense team is he doesn't have the adequate resources at the MDC to properly prepare for what is a complicated sex trafficking and racketeering trial. What is this exchange about, you think? Right.

I think they're probably pointing to an issue with privacy. And like you said, him being able to properly be able to put on his defense, you know, if he's someone who's in home detention, he can meet with his attorneys in fair confidence, you know, discuss things more freely. In prison, you're really not afforded those same privacy rights. So I think that's an argument that his team is going to be putting. on. Nima, I've got a question. This is from Sean DeCole again on YouTube. Please keep the questions coming if you have a question about this hearing. If you have a question about this case,

makes it make sure to submit him now. This is with this being the presiding judge, meaning Judge Arun-Subramanian, is this Sean Combs last chance for bail? I don't believe so. I believe that he put the second, he could go to the Second Circuit and had petitioned the second circuit, but then put it on pause waiting for Judge Subramanian to ultimately decide this issue, right? Yes, so when you appeal, that really removes jurisdiction of the ability of the trial court to make a decision. So obviously the case was transferred to Judge Subramanian, but they had appealed to the Second Circuit, which is the highest court before that appeal.

But now what they want is another bite of the apple, see if the judge is going to disagree with the prior magistrate judge and district judge and actually release columns on bail, which would be very surprising, in my opinion, before they take it up on appeal. Well, Elizabeth, I'll turn to you on that. again, the reason we know some of what the defense's arguments are. That's an interesting angle. So apparently they had to pause the appeal for this judge to view it again. Okay, we do have another update. Judge Submaranian says on the bail application, I don't have to deal with the Bustani case.

The defense is saying there's extensive conditions proposed, including 24-7 security. What about the Fox case? And the AUSA says there's no RICO charge in that case. Okay. Now, these are similar cases that Didi brought in. And he essentially, his lawyer is making the argument to say, look at these other cases where someone's charged with sex trafficking or similar crimes. And they were allowed to get a bond.

Why can't Did he get a bond, right? Did he's down to do more, pay more, and make more appropriations to make sure everything's good. Why can't he get a bond, right? Judge Subramanian says on the bail application, I don't have to deal with the Bustani case. The defense is saying there are extensive conditions proposed, including 24-7 security. What about the Fox case? Prosecutor responds, there was no RICO charge in that case. The judge said agreed.

So now they're going through some of the case law that was debated back and forth between the prosecution and the defense. You know, Nima, I think what's really... I feel like I'm with these guys in long crime right now. We're like collaborating. It's interesting. One of the arguments put forward, they're relying on the allegations and the indictment. They're saying that he reached out to witnesses and victims. Don't you need to hold a hearing?

Don't you call witnesses to prove that? Now, it's not trying to have to prove it beyond the reasonable doubt. They're not trying to say he's guilty of obstruction. But doesn't there have to be more than just taking the government's word for it? Not necessarily if the judge takes the government's word for it. And, you know, we've talked about Jeffries, but I think the more on point case, case in New York is Sam Bankman-Fried. Here's someone who was granted bond, sort of contacting witnesses. There was electronic evidence to support that he was reaching out to witnesses and

trying to alter and change their testimony. And his bond was revoked and he was in custody all throughout trial. So I think that's the case. Look, I believe the government that they have evidence that these witnesses are being contacted by combs or through intermediaries. They're not going to raise these allegations unless they have the receipts to prove it. So hopefully they do so. I don't I think you need a full-blown evidentiary hearing in a case. And here's the thing, too. If they were going to do all that with an evidentiary hearing, they would just charge him for witness tampering, right?

Like, if you're going to do all that, you're going to add another charge, right? Other than saying, you know, we're not, we're monitoring this. We might not have all the details to put another charge, but it's enough to say don't give him bond. It seemed to me he thought he was legitimately going to make bail, that he would be on house arrest for a year, two years, till trial happened. I don't think he thought that this would actually be a reality, right? I agree. And my theory is that all of these steps were taken to buy his attorneys and by his

legal team to hopefully assure that they can show the judge, you know, he's not a flight risk, he's put up this $50 million bond, he's prepared to put his home up for collateral, all of these steps he surrendered to his arrest. So all of these steps to put forward to try to argue, this is not someone who's going to flee. He can be trusted with home arrest. So I don't think he anticipated this. Going to that, Elizabeth, we just have another update from court. Again, we're providing live updates about what is happening in that court. Yeah, and I think they're reading off the same thing I am, which is inner city press. And inner city press did say, what they said? Okay, so the judge says, I want you to address the proposed conditions. The AUSA says,

hey, listen, there has to be some level of trust. Okay, okay, okay, okay, all right, here we go. So, all right, there's no recal. Okay, so the judge says, I want you to address the proposed conditions, the AUSA says, well, there got to be some level of trust that a defendant will follow him. Here he will not. He cannot be trusted. Consider his conduct in custody after the two judge's findings. And the AUSA then says his attorneys are enabling his flouting of BOP rules. So they're basically saying his attorneys are allowing him to or like enabling him to break BOP rules, which are the prison rules.

Consider the labeling of the pads after the fact, right? So they're saying, you know, they label the pads after the fact. Right? Even the family members. Okay? And the judge says, well, what's your response to Mr. Combs says, even if they don't trust me, there's 24-7 security. AUSA says, if he can't comply in a custodial setting, he will not comply if released. What type of security firm? They suggested a co-conspirator, one whose phone was taken. Only the day before. What? A second suggestion was a defense investigator in the case. What? Hmm.

Communications, what the prosecution says, is there any belief that he wouldn't manipulate a private security team that's supposed to watch him? Yeah, that's a course. That's working for him as well. And like you said, that's an absolute rule violation. Can't use another in-man's PAC number. Can't make three-way calls. And apparently he's doing all this.

And when he was out, he contacted a witness dozens of times. So this is all evidence of obstruction. If I'm the government, I actually, what I do is I supersede, I add those obstruction charges. Not necessarily because I think that's going to add additional time, but I think that's going to be helpful evidence for the jury to hear at trial that Giddy is trying to dissuade these witnesses. That's going to bring all that evidence in. To show that he's guilty. Why would he be obstructing unless, of course, he thought he couldn't,

win this on the merit. Yeah, but there's an easy explanation for that, right? The explanation is that yo, he's doing his own investigation. There's no proof that he offered these people money to change a statement or to, like, you could do an investigation yourself. And apparently his lawyer said multiple times, Mark

Agnifilio, saying, yo, when we knew that there was an investigation against Diddy, we stopped. Or there was an invest, or anybody who we were interviewing as a part of our investigation, when we knew that the government brought them to a grand jury, We stopped talking to them.

And we would tell Sean Combs don't talk to that person again. That happened for Witness 1, by the way. Can't comply in a custodial setting. He will not comply if released. What type of security firm? They suggested a co-conspirator, one whose phone was taken only the day before. Didn't know that. That's who the potential security firm is.

The second suggestion was a defense investigator in this case. And the prosecutor goes on to say, that investigator has been out contacting witnesses. Essentially, they work for him. This would be the defendant buying his way out. The judge said, you've conceded that Bustani's bar does not apply here. You've cited his wealth to release him so he can't use it. We'll get to that second argument in a second, but if that's true, this is who he was proposing to watch him? Yeah.

Yeah, it's a fair point. And again, if you consider if he's, let's say, confined to his home and home confinement, I think there's even more opportunity for him to be able to utilize the team and the people around him, whoever they're working for to be able to work within his favor. And also, this is not somebody who's going to be confined to a tiny little studio apartment. He has huge homes, huge estates. There's a lot of room for him to potentially go about continuing possibly the behavior that the prosecution is alleging he's already been doing. One of the other interesting arguments that I love to talk about here, Nima, and I'm curious if it comes up,

prosecutor said there's a two-tiered justice system. Why would it be fair that Sean Combs has the resources and the wealth to turn his home into a private prison and he should be out waiting trial on sex trafficking and racketeering charges when somebody with lesser means wouldn't be able to do that and they don't get bail. Now the defense says, wait a second, the only reason we're proposing such an expansive and expensive bail package like this is because of the very problems, the very concerns that the prosecution has. You say it's his wealth that's a concern. Well, we're going to show you, we're going to create such a package that alleviates any of those concerns. The reason it looks like this, and it's so expansive and includes 24-7 monitoring and all this, is because of what the prosecution said.

You can't have a sword and a shield at the same time. You say he's wealthy. You say he has the resources to flee, to do what he wants. Well, we're going to use that to try to negate those concerns. Where do you stand with that, NEMA? Well, it's not a flight issue, but it's not a flight issue. danger issue and no other defendant, and I don't think that Jeffrey's case is similar, would be released with these types of allegations. If we did, we'd be treating celebrities or folks

with hundreds of millions of dollars differently because of their wealth. So I think that's a very strong argument for the government. We have another back and forth that I want to tell you about. It's almost like the judge is listening to our back and forth because this is what just happened. And by the way, I really, from a legal point of view, I really, yeah, The judge actually just said the same thing, right? Okay. So the AUSA says we're seeking his continued detention based on his wealth. We're not seeking his continued detention based on his wealth.

We're rather seeking the continued detention based on the danger, risk of flight, and obstruction. And the judge says, is obstruction your main argument? AUSA says no, is danger to others? So Judge says so not flight risk It says well we rely on that too Basically saying we're using all three But our main thing is going to be that he's a danger to others Right obviously they're gonna talk about the firearms or whatever

They're gonna talk about maybe him threatening people We're gonna they're gonna probably talk about you know Rumors of him bragging the people about getting people knocked off and stuff like that They're gonna use that and then the second so the really the the obstruction is a second part But usually that's a really important important part, right? This is a reason why you never seen young thug mentioned gunner during the whole trial because that will definitely affect how someone, how the judge actually thinks you're going to be a good boy if he lets you out of jail essentially, right?

Let me see if there's not an update. If not, I'll put on. Okay. Right. Here we go. And then he's, and then the judge says, tell me about obstruction. AUSA says, well, he's continuing to violate rules. The judge says, wait, is running a PR campaign obstruction? And AUS, which, by the way, I agree. I do think that the, what do you mean? He's supposed to have his kids sing happy birthday to him. That's not having him look human.

That's humanized them, right? How is that like obstructing the whole thing? AUSA says that's not what we have here. Rather, it's a concerted effort to impact the integrity of these proceedings. The judge, I think, is going to, he's going to hammer down on that. He's going to hammer down that. Focus on those two. And obviously, you don't want to concede anything, but really just focus on because you only need one to win, right?

And I think the danger is the strongest argument. You mean you only need to convince the judge, whether it's obstruction or risk of flight or danger. You don't need all three. Generally, it's going to be danger or risk of flight, but the obstruction is important as well. So the standard is under federal law that detention is appropriate if there's no condition or combination of conditions that can guarantee the defendant's appearance at trial. and he or she is either a risk of flight or a danger to the community. Now, obstruction can't come in as well,

but it's typically danger. Elizabeth, we have another update from court talking about obstruction. The judge says, tell me about obstruction. Is he listening to long crime? Is there like something, do you have a microphone here or something? Tell me about obstruction.

So he asks the, he says, tell me about obstruction, prosecutor. Prosecutor Slavik says, he's continuing violation of the rules, meaning, as we talked about what's happening or allegedly happening in charge. jail. The judge says, is running a PR campaign obstruction, meaning the social media post? The prosecutor says that's not what we have here. Rather, it's his concerted effort to impact the integrity

of these proceedings. Prosecutor says, he says, I want to reach the jurors. I need only one. Ah, so that's so interesting. That's the first time that we actually maybe heard, they said they would have evidence to prove that this social media campaign was about influencing the jury. So he allegedly, there's some communication from Sean Combs where he talks about, I only need one, meaning only need to convince one juror. The judge says he's not permitted to engage in any conduct, excuse me, he's not permitted to engage in any conduct to impact the jury pool. That's what the judge is asking. Prosecutor says his intent, it's obstructive conduct. He's violated the so-called gag order. He's the one who asked for that order.

I think the social media argument is a bit of a tough one to make. Again, as we've noted, he's a massive public figure. People have con- So it appears like they're ahead of inner city. They're ahead of inner city. Okay, okay. Oh, no, never mind. Inner City has it.

So inner city says, he says, I want to reach, he says, I want to reach the jurors. I only need one. So he needs one juror to make sure he don't go to jail, right? The judge says, well, he's permitted. to engage in any conduct to impact the jury pool, right? And the AUSA says, well, his intent is obstructive conduct. He's violated so-called gag order, and he's the one who asked for such order. That's a good argument, too.

I ain't allowed. Disclose to the public. I mean, if you're posting about your birthday, you're- Remember, the gag order said that the court couldn't leak videos or couldn't speak through anonymous sources or, oh, an investigator with the feds, or some close source with the feds are saying this. that could make Diddy look crazy. So they're saying if you put a mutual gag order on both of us,

why does Diddy get to speak that way about through intermediaries, whether it's his kids or otherwise? That's kind of super important right there. The order. And again, this is just not a good argument for the prosecution. I agree that him trying to influence jurors, that is, but just generally a blanket argument against a PR campaign and social media post, not good.

No judge in this country is going to. going to prohibit someone from posting on social media. Just as to let's be honest, this is the biggest trial in the country right now, especially now that Donald Trump is one and his criminal problems have gone away. Nothing even compares to the Sean Didy Combs trial. People are going to be talking about it. Everyone is covering it traditional social media. I've done dozens of interviews just on law and crime about it.

So for a judge to say that you can't post on social media about your birthday, with your family, forget about it. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. That's crazy. No appellate court would uphold that order. Clearly, you do not believe that Kanye West, sued for copyright infringement is the bigger case. And that's shocking.

I didn't expect that from you. Okay, we have another update from court. This is from the prosecutor. The court entered the order on October 25th. He started his campaign on October 27th. He couldn't even comply for two days. The judge said, what about the, oh, we have something. What about the Jeffrey's Abercrombie case where the government agreed to release on $10 million

bond? And then the prosecutor says, we did a letter. And by the way, that's the letter that we raised. read before where basically the government talked about distinguishing. This is a letter that was filed today. This is in anticipation of this hearing. So the judges said, yo, we let out the Abercrombie CEO. Why shouldn't it be let out?

And they're citing the differences between this and that. Says the government respectfully submits this letter in advance of the hearing scheduled for today. In connection with the defendant's renewed motion for bail and the response to the court's inquiry about the relevance of the bail package ordered with the government's consent as to defendant Michael Jeffries in this other case. For reasons stated below, the circumstances in the Jeffries are in a posit and provide no support for the defendant's bail application in this instant manner.

On October 17, the grand jury indicted this guy, okay, blah, blah, blah, blah. It said, Jeffries and his co-defendant operated in an international sex trafficking and prostitution business. He paid for a dozen of men to blah, blah, blah. Okay, so cool, we know that. It says the defense argues his renewals. bail motion is similar situation to Jeffreys and should be similar released. But beyond superficial similarities, the high-profile positions of the defendant in sex trafficking

charges, cases are definitely different for multiple reasons. And they're saying the first is while the Jeffreys case alleges use of force, fraud, and coercion to engagement in non-consensual sex, there's no allegations of Jeffries committing non-trafficking related violent acts, or that he used firearms during that period. They found Diddy with a gun. They accused him of being violent. The indictment against Combs alleges both. With respect to the charge offenses, Jeffreys does not include a racketeering offense. And that's their main thing. They're saying, we got this guy for sex trafficking, right? Um, what the fuck?

What are you going to talk about right now? Yeah, y'all is still talking about Kendrick? just give me a second it says the indictment goes against Combs alleged both with respect to the charge offenses so they're basically saying it doesn't include a re-co charge and that's the main thing so I want to be clear even though you're seeing

tough questions for the prosecution doesn't necessarily mean he's going to side with the defense and vice versa having said this I'm going to read you the latest from court the judge the prosecutor they're talking now about the 2016 video of Cassandra Ventura or I believe that's what they're talking about because the prosecutor

says, I think the better comparison is the two prior denials of bail here, but the judge said, what about the claim that the government spliced the video? Prosecutor said he apologized. That's the point. Remember, Sean Combs apologized on Instagram two days after CNN published that video of him purportedly beating Cassandra Ventura back in 2016. The judge said, why did you use the splice video, not the original? And the prosecutor said, it was public.

if you wonder is he open to the Whoa I'm going to lie That is that is That's a win for ditty right there Why are you using the Out of sequence or out of order sequence video When you're presenting a case Why would you use a CNN video

When you actually have the raw video Why not just presented it in full Unless you thought that the video that the news put out Presented a narrative that you're trying to also adopt So you use that edited video But you didn't use The full video right and then they basically tried copy to pee well he apologized anyway which by the way

remember everybody was criticized it did he's apology and even some people said if you're his attorney why would you tell him to apologize because fuck the the public court aspect of the court of public opinion aspect of things you apologize and basically acknowledges that that's you the video is real you did do these things right so nema i'll give you a chance to respond but here's another update the cell phone footage this is from the prosecutor. The cell phone footage was grand jury material and we didn't want the defendant to be able to retaliate against the grand jury witness. We did add blurring of the victim's face. In 2016, the defendant bribed hotel security $100,000 to make it go away. Your thoughts on what

we're hearing about this. Yeah, I'm shaking my head because this is not edited. This is why this is important. First of all, we know that Sean. Let me pause it. I can read all of this. So the AUSA then says, I think the better comparison is the two prior denials of bail here. The judge says, what about the claim? Okay, can we read that already? So it says, the cell phone footage was grand jury material. What cell phone footage are you talking about? And we didn't want the defendant to be able to retaliate against the grand jury witness.

Hmm. We did add blur him to the victim's face. And I'm guessing this is that cell phone footage. I guess something must have been happening. Did he and Cassie's arguing and somebody recorded it? Did he has that recording and did he submitted it? And apparently they had it, something of the sort. We did add blurring.

And in this 2016 video, okay. And then AUSA says, it doesn't matter if he threw the vase or the contents of the vase. He admitted to it and apologized for it. This took place in the middle of a freak off. The U.S. has evidence a male commercial sex worker was in the hotel room at the time. Sex trafficking. Yeah, I think that's important. I think that's going to be important for the prosecution.

to say... Let me go back a little bit. A violent episode because the latest update from court, the prosecutor says, does it matter if he threw a vase or the contents of a vase? He admitted to it and apologized for it. This took place in the middle of a freak off. The U.S. has evidence a male commercial sex worker was in the hotel room at the time. So they're really trying to say this is evidence of sex trafficking. Yeah, I think that's important. I think that's going to be important for the prosecution to say, you know, she wasn't just fleeing for any reason. It was specifically to flee. freak off because again one of the things that their defense is going to try to push is

that they were in the middle of a consensual act regardless I think you also have one of the things that was mentioned in indictment was the multiple assaults that he allegedly inflicted upon women this is clear evidence of that we have more questions from our YouTubers the best YouTubers in the business all right Nima this is a question from Sally on YouTube once did he finally goes to trial how long do you think the full trial will last I think it's been the last about a month or so. I mean, the parties have given some estimates about three weeks, I believe, for the prosecution and one week for the defense, if I recall correctly. That means I think the defense

case is entirely or mostly going to be based on the cross-examination of those witnesses. They're going to come after them very aggressively. It's still pretty early to know who exactly the government's going to call, and that's important because you have individuals who have filed civil lawsuits, they're going to be cross-examined to say this isn't about criminal justice. This is about money. So I'm sure the government is going to want to put their very best witnesses and victims on the stand because we know that the defense is going to come after them and come after them very aggressively. All right. We have another update from court.

This is from the prosecutor. This is devastating evidence for the trial. This is, again, the 2016 video. It shows why he cannot be released on bail. He is violent and is committed to covering up his crimes. The evidence against him continues to mount. We've learned of punching and kicking employees, partners. So again, that danger element to.

the bail analysis. I do have a question, Nima, for you. This is from Sean DeKalb, again on YouTube. Any chance for a plea deal, and is there any chance the judge will accept it? I'll give my thoughts, but first, your thoughts? I don't think there's much of a chance at all, because for there to be a deal, it has to be something that did be would accept. And when you're talking about these types of crimes, I mean, the sentencing guidelines are through the roof. Now, maybe he'll get less than the decades in federal prison. I said if and when he's convicted. But this is someone that doesn't want to be in bail for even the next several months until trial in May. He's not going to voluntarily, you know, give up his empire and concede this.

By the way, let's go back and say, why I don't think it's going to be a deal. Let's talk about Cassie Ventura, who demanded $30 million reportedly not to file a lawsuit when the statute of limitations. Okay. Another update here. So, yeah, so the AUSA says this is devastating evidence for the trial. shows why it cannot be released on bail. He's violent and committed to covering up his crimes. The evidence against him continues to mount. We've learned of punching and kicking employees and partners.

The judge says, Mark, what do you say about that? Did he's Lord? He says, well, I'm going to have Ms. Shapiro lead us off. Shapiro then says he was not dragging her back to the freak off, okay? The judge says, but there was dragon. And the judge says, and Shapiro, way, I think Mark Agnifilo throws it to Shapiro in an interesting angle. That video is so indefensible that it looks crazy.

So you got to have a woman speak about it. So they get the female lawyer that's sitting there with Ditty, Alexander Spiro. By the way, Tenni Garagro is on there if she's in court. But she's Mar Garagos's daughter, but she's lead counsel too. But Spiro or Shapiro actually, she does. then addresses the video. He's not dragging her to the freakoff. The judge says, but there is, there is dragon.

And Shapiro says, I don't mean to. And then the judge says, there was kicking. And Shapiro says he has apologized. This is bad, right? You know, the judge is asking these questions. You know, it feels like they're just saying, uh, uh, uh, but he apologized, sir. Who cares, right?

Remember, this is not a matter of if he's guilty of that particular thing. It's about if he's going to get bail or not. which is going to be pretty interested right okay hard show him all sorts of evidence including the video and all sorts of probing questions so yeah I mean this is a criminal case this is not a civil lawsuit so he took the stand in the 1999 nightclub shooting case worked from there but kind of a different case here okay so we have an update from court the judge asks mr. Agnifalo this is Sean Combs lawyer mr. Agnifalo mr. Agniflo

responds, I'm going to have Ms. Shapiro lead us off. This is the other defense counsel. And she responds, he was not dragging her back to the freak off. Judge says there was dragging. Shapiro says, I don't mean to. Judge says there was kicking. And then Shapiro says he has apologized. Your thoughts about what the judge is getting to here. Yeah, I mean, one of the things that Diddy had said when Cassandra Ventura filed her lawsuit, immediately, obviously he denied and said this was an extortion attempt. She was just trying to pull money out of me. Once the video surface, he was sort of backed into a corner into apologizing. So I think what the prosecution's truly trying to get at is this is someone who will deny,

deny, deny until he's backed into a corner. And I think what the judge is trying to pull is what are the potential reasons he admitted to it and apologized to it? Personally, I believe, because he had no other choice. Got a question from Alawani on YouTube. Will there be cameras for the trial at least? Nope. Nope.

And nope. Very disappointing. No cameras in federal courthouses, let alone. in New York, except maybe in exceptional circumstances, but no, there's going to be no cameras in the trial. That's why we're doing our best right now to give you a sense of what's happening in that courthouse provided. Okay. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Okay. Then the judge says, what about the 2018 messages with victim one about violence? Now, we haven't seen these messages. I don't think so. But Combs lawyer says, we've gathered more information about victim one even yesterday.

I don't want to quote it because it's under seal. It should be. It was consensual. What? Now, what it seemed like it was is that these guys were getting into arguments, and they were probably like videotaping each other, like secretly. Because Diddy submit it a 20-minute videotape? And that's under seal. And they're mentioning they don't want to quote something because it's under seal.

But I'm thinking these are videotapes, either of him and Cassie, maybe Cassie initiating stuff. We don't know if it's sex. We don't know if it's maybe arguments they're having. where they're kind of showcasing her maybe in the same light you see Diddy. This is her attacking Diddy.

This is her wilding out. So that's definitely a thing. It's shameful. You saw that Agnifola didn't defend Diddy when it came to violence against a woman. So they put a female defense lawyer to do that. So that's pretty common in these types of cases. That's why Shapiro started speaking.

But we're talking about text messages from Cassie to Diddy. And again, going back to her lawsuit, and I believe her, she said that she was, forced to have sex with male prostitutes while Diddy watched, videotaped, and masturbated. So I believe what she's saying. And there's text messages that corroborate her accounts of what happened. She has said to Diddy that I'm a human being. I'm someone's daughter.

You beat me. You kicked me. That's all in text messages. And I don't think the defense can deny that. Oh, yeah. That was provided by the prosecution as examples of what was happening. And then also he allegedly threatened to, this is what the prosecution says, exposed videos of the freakoffs if she didn't do what he wanted.

Now, you're hearing the response from the defense. I've got a question from Ashley Glass on YouTube. Will the Long Crime Channel be covering the case when and if it happens next year? We will do our best, given the circumstances of no cameras in that courtroom. Yeah, this is where inner city press is like amazing because he's in court. And apparently they actually limit electronic devices. You have to leave your phones outside of court. except he's allowed to

live tweet it, but he can't video it. He's actually been through a lot of, like, hearings with the government because they've kicked him out of, like, certain things. And I think he has a current situation with the UN and their proceedings, but they've allowed him to be able to, I don't know if he's using a phone, but something that he could just kind of, like, do transcribe this whole thing. So this is why he's the only one transcribing shit. Okay.

All right. Let's see, let's see, let's see what else. All right. So the judge says, I don't want to quote, I don't want to quote from them, but you know the ones I mean. The lawyer then says, we're proposing an independent security firm. There was a mutual, there's been a mutual regrettable physical conduct going both ways. There was violence by this person and Combs allegedly. So they're both kind of agreeing. So they're saying that, you'll listen, I know you're seeing Diddy did some fucked up shit and he was violent. to her, but she was violent to him too. He has proof of that. She has proof of whatever. And they're kind of almost suggesting, this is a wash, right, in terms of, it's not just Diddy violate her.

They had a very tumultuous relationship. It's toxic. It's left, right, left, right. She does something, he does something, and it's getting all over the place. That's what it appears is being mentioned here, right? Okay. It's always a tricky kind of avenue, especially if you cross-examine Cassandra Ventura, how you paint your victim or alleged victim.

It's tough in these sexual assault cases, but unfortunately you have his life on the line. This is what you might have to do. Whether or not I would turn off a jury or judge, we'll have to see. Comment from Angela Maria, Jesse is devastated about no cameras. You're right. I am devastated. I have no shame in saying that whatsoever.

Talk to me about, it's funny. Elizabeth, talk to me about the idea here. What would happen if they let him out on bail and get pre-trial release and then he ends up doing what the prosecution says he does? He reaches out to witnesses again. He reaches out the victims. I mean, I imagine his bail will be revoked. But does that put the judge in kind of a bad position?

I would imagine it would. Again, the judge is guided by two prior judges saying, this is too much of a risk. We can't let this person out on bail. And if the judge takes a chance and says, let's try, let's try home confinement. and then that happens, I think that would be devastating, and that would also really affect the potential outcome of the trial. You know, again, a big part of the indictment focused on the element of control and power that he had. So if Diddy is able to exert that same level of control and power over witnesses to try to block potential testimony, that could be devastating for the case. By the way, tell me if I'm totally crazy here, Nima, but, you know, his team was pushing for a trial to happen as soon as possible, presumably, because they don't want to be.

He doesn't want to be, you know, in jail for the next two or three years. Risk it. Go to trial. They might think they have a good defense. But if he's granted bail today, are we going to see a motion tomorrow Monday? Let's postpone the trial. Hey, I'd like to be on home confinement for as long as possible before going to trial. Am I crazy to think that, Nima?

You're not crazy at all, Justin. I think the major motivating factor to push this case to trial so quickly is the fact that Diti is in custody. And frankly, one of the reasons that people, people on the defense bar they don't like their clients being in custody is not just preparing for trial but oftentimes defendants i also think one of the reasons that they want to push for um a quicker trial is not only uh as this gentleman just said but they're they're hoping they could speed up the process of a superseding indictment right so if a superseding indictment um comes down that's going to have more stuff.

Right now, the case is weak, if you ask me. It's weak. I mean, it's still circumstantial, but it's weak. It's only Cassie. I think he has a good argument. Yo, I was paying this woman all this amount of money. And essentially, after I paid her this amount of money, I cut her off after I found out she was cheating.

When I found out she was cheating, I basically then, you know, cut her off. She went broke and now she's suing me. You have a good argument. Maybe some people will buy that. But if there's like five victims, if there's, there's eight victims, if there's 10 victims. Remember in the R. Kelly cases I talked about when it came to New York, there was nine victims, right?

There was nine or actually more than nine, right? And even in the Illinois case, there was multiple victims, and usually a jury's going to look at like all these people ain't lying. So part of trying to get to trial as quick as possible is you hope is just you versus Cassie. And I think Diddy's confident there. but if they add on so much stuff where even if those people don't have intimate moments or as much knowledge as say Cassie, it might be like, yo, bro, it's no way all 20 of these

people are lying on you, bro. You did some shit, right? Well, it's going to be the testimony of the witnesses, right? They got to show that forced, fraud, or coercion. That's what separates consensual, sexual activity between adults. It can be as freaky as the participants want as long as it's consensual. They need the testimony of the witnesses. But also, let's not forget, there's a lot of video evidence here, right?

Did he recorded these videos allegedly for his own sexual? Okay. Then let's continue to read. Combs lawyer Shapiro in the Lattein case from 2000. Okay, so this is Shapiro speaking right here. So this is the woman, Alexander Shapiro. She says in the Lafontein case in 2000, the defendant told someone to lie by phone from the MCC. In the Gotti case from 1996, the head of the Gambino crime family, the witness received a kick in the ass.

The government does not have that here. And I guess they're trying to say, how is he obstructed when they're not presenting any specific thing, specific thing where Diddy's saying, contact this person, hit up this person, go do this with this person. That's just not a thing. And they then said we cited Trump's case. okay the defendants have a greater right to you to speak than their lawyers and instagram post as well i don't know if i can now they cited trump's case um did he's lawyer in in the bail appeal or not bail appeal but the bail application i'm going to tell you why because during the whole time trump was cussing out the the judge and essentially cussing out the the prosecutors and

they're using that to say yeah he's former president of the united United States, but just like how he wasn't, you know, reprimanded for doing such, probably because he was a former president at the time. Now he realized he's going to be a future president. But he wasn't reprimanded, and he's a normal citizen at the time. They're using that for

Ditty to say, why are you going to reprimand Ditty? If Trump could cuss out the judge and cuss out the prosecutors, why can't Ditty lawyer say something about whatever, or why can't Ditty say whatever he wants, okay? Um, yeah. Okay, I don't know why they went to the outside view. Okay, let's

See, maybe they're going to go on a break. Who knows? All right. Let's give you a second. In a second. Okay, cool. Then Combs' lawyer then says, this is covered by the First Amendment. Messages they point to are not instructions to lie.

They're a barrage of negative media coverage. He has a right to respond to that. The judge says, why doesn't he respond through his counsel? And they're saying, we're happy to do that. Now, I'm on Ditty's side with this. if the government is leaking videos and putting up edited videos that's making it look crazy and investigators historically while the case was really bubbling was saying oh yo yo some of the tapes this is on it blah blah blah and they're making everybody feel you're guilty

why can't you put out positive stuff about yourself why can't you put out messages through like seated in the press to say yo that attorney's lying on me he's just he's also an abuser or hey they're playing dirty or plain dirty i kind of agree like him responding to his lawyers makes him seem a little you know we're not going to believe the lawyers lawyers lawyers getting paid okay yeah so all right bet that was this not too sure why this is but elizabeth vula people obviously that's what they're going to claim um i think it all depends on what's in those notes which we're not going to know about for weeks on end and what evidence the prosecution has in terms of what did he say?

You know, they're saying that they have intercepted recorded calls of him trying to instruct witnesses about what to say. So, you know, I think it's a tough, tough one. All right, Neema, I want to get another question from you before. I have to sign both of you off. We have two new guests that are coming in in a minute. We'll take a quick break, but before we do, Neema, this is a question from IVD on YouTube. What is the prosecution's counterargument against it being consensual behavior? Well, it's going to be the testimony of the witnesses, right?

They've got to show that forced, fraud, or coercion. That's what separates consensual, sexual activity between adults. It can be as freaky as the participants want as long as it's consensual. So they need the testimony of the witnesses. But also, let's not forget, there's a lot of video evidence here, right? Did he recorded these videos allegedly for his own sexual gratification, but also the main control over the victims. But I really think the game changer in this case, Jesse, is if there's a superseding indictment. alleging the sex trafficking of minors.

That takes consent out the window. That changes the whole game. All right. So we're going to take a break. We're going to continue covering these updates from what's happening in that courtroom. So they're taking a break. The court proceeding doesn't seem like it's taken a break.

And let's see if we have any other updates. Okay, cool. We do. So Combs lawyer Shapiro says, but we're lawyers. It's not what we really do, basically saying we don't play PR. And by the way, I could imagine Diddy probably told his lawyer, especially after his lawyer went on TMZ and was like,

yo, maybe he got it from Walmart. And Walmart was like, we don't got that shit over here, nigga, or Costco or wherever he said. And, you know, he stopped speaking on behalf of Diddy. And I do think they should have a PR firm who's speaking on his behalf, but I guess not. It says, but we're lawyers and it's not what we do. Some of these recordings show that he's telling people.

Some of these recordings show that he's telling people. Just tell the truth. Talk with my lawyer. And the judge says, victim three, you're saying the communications are fine. And Shapiro says, same on witness one and two. Basically saying if did he ever had any communications with these witnesses while there was an investigation going on, or not witnesses, but victims.

Oh, no, witnesses, actually. He never told him the lie. He said, tell the truth. And if anything, just speak to my lawyer. If you have a question you need from me, but just speak to my lawyer. But he never told him to lie. He never told him to say something they didn't want to say.

Now, the government, I hope they come back with this because the government claimed that Did he was damn near almost proofreading what or called 100,000. 128 times before Kalina did a statement like basically almost saying all right you'll post it post it this time what are you going to say and let's see if they have proof of that you know what I'm saying this is outside outside the shit okay cool all right so essentially they're saying they're not PR we will see man I think they're coming back here all right so might say the next topic

we're just covering this until we get to a resolution, it'll probably happen within like an hour or two, if you ask me. Here we go. The Combs case right now, this is a live look at the federal courthouse in downtown New York where the issue of Sean Combs' bail is being discussed. Now, of course, as we know, that has been denied multiple times by other judges, but this is the first time the current judge overseeing this case, Judge Rune-Suburmanian, is actually deciding this issue.

And we're seeing back and forth between the prosecution and, the defense on this. I say seeing there are no cameras in that courtroom. Our very own Elizabeth Milner is inside that courtroom. She's going to come out a little bit later. Tell us what she saw, what she heard. But what we are doing right now is providing you live, real-time updates about what is happening in that courtroom. There is reporting coming back. So I want to get into it right now. Really interesting about what's happening. Let me bring in criminal defense attorneys, Brian McMonigal and Bradford Cohen, attorneys to the stars. Great to have you, gentlemen. So let me tell you about what is happening right now. So my boy Bradford on the on the joint.

Alexandra Shapiro is having a back and forth with Judge Subramanian. I'm going to read everybody to the fourth. So first, defense attorney Shapiro says, we cited the Trump case. Defendants have greater rights to speak than their lawyers and Instagram post as well as I don't know if I can. And then the judge says his communications from the MDC, the Metropolitan Detention Center. Shapiro says he says the prosecution is motivated by racism. So let me just be clear about this. A, there's a conversation, there's a discussion about what was he saying, maybe on telephone calls to other people while he's been locked up at the MDC. The other question is, was he orchestrating a social media campaign using his family to post things online that might

potentially influence a jury? So keeping that in mind. Ms. Shapiro, again, Sean Combs' lawyer says, this is covered by the First Amendment. Messages they point to are not instructions to lie. There is a barrage of negative media coverage. He has a right to respond to that. The judge asks, why not through counsel? Shapiro says, we're happy to do that. Shapiro says, but we're lawyers. It's not really what we do.

Some of these recordings show that he's telling people. Just tell the truth. Talk with my lawyer. And then the judge says, victim three. You're saying the communications are fine. And Shapiro says, yes, same on witness one and witness two. The judge says, what about the communications that are missing? Agnifalo, this is Mark Agnifalo, this is Sean Combs' other lawyer, says.

Witness 1 reached out to Mr. Combs' counsel and asked us for a lawyer. We didn't do anything along those lines because it was an odd request. I don't know the factual answer. The judge responded, how do you know not know? How do you know, no? Or how do you not know, maybe? I want to hear what the lawyer has to say. How did you not know?

And Sean Combs' other lawyer, Tenne Garago, says there was a message from Mr. Compton. to witness one. I'll like to give it to you under seal. Prosecutor Foster may know it does not give rise to the level of obstruction. I do not have the actual message. Brian, I'll start with you. A lot of back and forth here. It's about whether or not his communications are a form of obstruction. It's about whether or not him even initiating a social media campaign would be to improperly influence a jury. This all goes to the issue. Is he a danger on the outside? Is he flouting the rules inside? He cannot be released outside.

What are you taking away from this back and forth I went through? Well, the fact that they're debating it is healthy for him. It sounds like our judge here is trying to give a real fair analysis to all this. And this is a collision between First Amendment rights, as far as I'm concerned, and some of the requirements under bail if there should be bail given. You're not supposed to have contact with witnesses. You're certainly not supposed to insinimate witnesses, but you're also able to defend yourself and marshal a defense

and speak your mind as a defendant. And judges always have a very difficult time trying to balance those two constitutional issues. And I think this judge is struggling with it because this is a man who's on trial for his life. His liberty's been taken away from him. And he's fighting back. And that would be something that one,

would expect of someone who's been accused of heinous crime. So I think that today is probably, as I think you've described it, really the first opportunity for there to be a healthy debate on why he should be released. And Bradford, I want to give you an opportunity to respond to that as well. I do want to let you know there was another update where Ms. Garagos, who again is one of Sean Combs' attorney, says, my client obeys me. For example, on Victim III, he says, stopped using ASAP and other phone lines. The messages with Witness 1 were pre-arrest. He obeys us.

He came to New York. In the Bureau of Prisons, when I tell him not to do something, he doesn't. So in other words, if you have concerns about him flouting the rules, he will listen to us, we'll tell him what to do. What do you think? I think that's an argument that I've often made, and I think a lot of defense attorneys make in terms of that our clients will listen to us if we tell them what to do and what not to do. And in certain certain senses, you have clients that have not been in a situation like this before where they're in custody, where they are getting a barrage of allegations against them. Some may have some basis of truth and some may not. And you've seen that over and over again in this case.

There have been reports of different things that went on and different allegations against Sean Combs that they have then found out of these are just rumors and they're not true. I think that it's not a bad thing when a PR company or even when a defendant takes it on himself to have family members talk about the good thing that he's done in the past and the charitable things that they've done in the past when you have a case like this where they are just every day, there's something that is coming out, something that is leaked by either the government or a party. that's involved or someone that's interested in the case where it is affecting, that could have affected a jury. I think that, you know, that release of that Cassie tape, and I keep going back to that release of that Cassie tape, I think the tape was released because they knew that she was going to be

somewhat blamed for the behavior that happened, that she would, they would know that she would participate in these different things with different individuals, and they wanted to make sure that was cut off at the past and essentially make her a victim and not a co-defendant. And I think that's why that tape was eventually leaked by whatever party that leaked that tape. A lot of not going back to that, no one's really discussed how that tape has come out. And I think it's an interesting thing. And especially when you have a judge that's interested in your story and you have a prosecution that is interested in why? You also have Diddy's lawyer who said I submit that I submit that the charges in the Jeffries and Abercrombie case are worse than here.

Oh shit. They're saying he has worse charges than here. They're saying they allege an international sex trafficking business. They were R worded and forced to engage in anal sex in Eastern District. How do you figure out which case is worse? Interesting. Be all that he's going to grant him bond. I don't know.

I think this is a tough. uphill to take. I think it's an uphill battle whenever you have an individual that's facing the type of time that they're facing and the type of allegations to get a bond. Certainly the bond package is pretty extensive in my opinion. A $50 million bond is nothing to sneeze about. And to go into that about one of the areas where I think Judge Subramanian seems to be receptive. He actually told prosecutors early this week, be prepared to talk about this. It's coming up right now. And Brian, I'll ask you about this. So this is Ms. Shapiro, who's Sean Combs lawyer, says,

I submit the charges in the Jeffries Abercrombie case are worse than here. They allege an international sex trafficking business. They were raped and forced to engage, and I'm not going to say, but in a certain kind of sex acts. And by the way, the argument here is, and this is what the Judge Suburbanian said, is distinguish prosecution, why it is Sean Combs, after putting forward a bail package, as we said, $50 million, 24-7 private security firm,

limited visitors, visitor logs, no internet use, no phone use. Why is he denied bomb when you have Mike Jeffery, he's the former head of Abercrombie and Fitch, who is just arrested in charge with sex trafficking? Why is he out on $10 million bail? And by the way, the prosecution responded earlier and they had a back and forth about this. He's 80 years old. Sean Combs is 55 years old. Sean Combs is charged with racketeering.

He's not charged with racketeering. Sean Combs has alleged instances of prior violent behavior, not the instance with Mike Jeffries. But here you're seeing, Brian, where they're saying, we actually think that Jeffries case is worse. What do you make of that? Well, it's brilliant.

And I think that's the road they have to travel because it's precedent. You know, you're not supposed to have different rulings for like-minded cases. disparity in treatment is always frowned upon in the federal courts. And here they have a significant public interest case where bail was set at $10 million by agreement. It wasn't debated over it. The government agreed to it.

Now we come over to Sean Puffy Combs' case, and they're objecting to five times that amount for someone who I don't believe has ever been convicted of a federal crime or a felony. I could be wrong about that. And they're putting restraints in place that make the previous bail package pale in comparison. So they're right to make this argument. It's precedent. It's precedent within that jurisdiction. And I think the judge is going to look hard at it.

You know, you've now got two rulings that have gone against him. So he's got to look at those rulings and those judges. But he's also got a situation where the government has agreed to bail in a situation that if it's not as bad, it's pretty darn close by accusation. And look, I think they could, you know, look, it's also a different court. This is a different, this is the Southern District of New York. That was the Eastern District of New York. But even you put that difference aside, this seems to be one of the more compelling arguments put forward by the defense.

Bradford, we're also taking questions, by the way. So anybody who's questions about this case, submit them on YouTube. If you have questions about the hearing, submit them. We have this interesting question from Sahara Useri on YouTube. Why did Combs get a new judge to begin with? It's interesting, right? Because I believe you had a district court judge or a magistrate judge, then a district court judge. They have the black judge, Angela Lamar Carter.

They took him off for the Submarian guy. The assignment of a case like this. Why is it now in the hands of Judge Arun Subramanian? Why do you see this happen, Bradford? Well, on federal cases, we always appear to begin with in front of a magistrate. That's usually the first person who hears the case, if it's a bond. issue and or if it's even a preliminary issue, a lot of times court judges will give magistrates the power to rule over different kind of motions, motions to suppress and motions to dismiss.

But we always go in front of a magistrate that's associated with the judge. And then generally you then go to the judge that's going to have your case. It just depends. Sometimes you go to a temporary judge until it gets assigned. A lot of times judges don't have time for the type of case that it is or they might not have the schedule that will be that will behoove a trial in a certain period of time. I believe that this trial is being set for April and it might be the other judge that was assigned doesn't already has a case that's set for April.

That's not uncommon. I don't see that as like unusual. We've seen that in many cases. I've had many cases where judges have changed at the beginning of the case. It's usually unlikely that at the end of the case that you have a judge that will change once they've heard motions and once you've done discovery and things of that nature. But I don't find anything of that unusual. Magistrates are always common.

You always go in front of a magistrate first, and those are randomly, usually randomly assigned. And then a judge is randomly assigned. And then another judge can take over at any time. It's not that big of a deal. And by the way, I wish we had cameras in the courtroom, but based purely on the arguments that we're seeing and have seen with Judge Subramanian, I feel confident to say, this feels like a very fair, well-reasoned judge. The way he was pressing the prosecution, the way he's been pressing the defense,

it's really something to take note of. And that's exactly the kind of judge you want in these cases. There's a question that we have from Samian on YouTube. I'm curious, Jesse, why did the prosecutor not reference the R. Kelly trial? They might not have referenced it today, but it was in their filings. I think it was even in the very first bail filing. They referenced the R. Kelly case. They referenced the Jeffrey Epstein cases as why.

why it would justify bail for Sean Combs. Here's another question. I'll throw this over to you, Brian, from Europeans Hunar on YouTube. If Diddy gets out of bail, does that mean that he gets out immediately, like this hour? Nah, he would get processed. All right, cool.

Or the order would have to go in, then they would go through the whole thing to pay. All right, cool, let's go. The lawyer then says, while in the Jeffrey's case, one defendant is 80 and the other one's 71. Cohn's 55, I hate to say it, that it's not young. The U.S. suggests he won't follow conditions.

That's what the judge is saying. And then they continue by saying these conditions are more restrictive than in prison. So they're kind of pushing back against some of these conditions, right? You know, some judges recognize. Or actually just saying, hey, listen, yeah, he could take notes and leave notes around. And, you know, as long as he's not communicating with people, specifically the witnesses, which there is no proof of, right, after, you know, he knew they were grand juryed. He could write whatever he wants in a notebook, right?

That's what I'm hearing. That are more thoughtful and more fair-minded issue written opinions, which he may do in this case. We have another update from court, Ms. Shapiro, again, defense counsel for Sean Combs. While in Jeffrey's case, one defendant is 80 and the other is 71, Mr. Combs is 55. I hate to say it, it's not that young because that was one of the things the prosecution said. Objection 80-year-old. Yeah, you're dealing with an 80-year-old. You're dealing with an 80-year-old. He's 55. You know, he's much younger. He's more of a danger. The judge says the U.S. suggests he won't follow conditions. Shapiro says these conditions are more restrictive than in the prison. Again, I kind of laid out what some of the conditions are. Bradford, your thoughts. I think the argument that one guy's 80 and one guy's 55 is if I was a judge, I think that would fall on deaf ears. The 80 year old might be more willing to do something crazy because he's 80.

You know, it's like he only has so much time left. Any time you give an 80 year old is going to be a life sentence. So if the guy gets five years and he's 85 years old, that's not that young. So the argument itself is not great about the age. I think the stronger argument is maybe that in the RICO charges, they're charging some sort of violent behavior. That's probably a stronger argument because the Abercrombie and Fitch CEO doesn't have a history of alleged violence or participation in violence. But the allegations of the sex trafficking are very, very, in my opinion, are worse for the CEO of Abercrombie. And it's just, you know, it's funny that it just by happenstance, these cases happen together.

If it didn't happen together, you'd have nothing to compare it to. You'd have to go back to a different sex trafficking case that someone didn't get bond. So it just so happened that this worked out for Sean Combs, where the Eastern District comes to an agreement on the CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch, and it works in his favor. I think that you have to lean very heavily on. This guy could have to make a run for it at any time, right? it's not just that he's a danger it's also that he's a flight risk they were arguing

he could have made a run for it at any time he has jets he could have gone to Mexico he could have gone anywhere and he never did he surrendered when he was supposed to surrender in fact they didn't even allow him to surrender they picked him up at night yeah you know piggybacking on Bradford Cohen is saying

I think the I think the government has a good point with that yo this guy might be dangerous and they said that's no more reason we haven't really gotten into that yet like about him beating up people or threatening people but the obstruction part is kind of coming in thin

you got to have something where it really looks like ditty's trying to pay people off other than those phone calls which is lawyers have both sent in declarations explaining you got to do a little bit more to say this guy isn't doing that Jake as this judge is doing that actually

fairly new to the bench so I think that benefits Sean Combs as well it's interesting you say that because I want to read you the latest from court right now So the judge says, Mr. Agnifalo, where is the home he'd be in? So again, if you're talking about home confinement, Agnifalo says, I don't want to give the address, but it's on Star Island. There's a causeway.

This is in Florida. This is Miami. There's a dock, but there would be no boat. The judge responds, that's not going to work. We're in New York. Agnifalo says, give me a moment. He comes back and he says, there is an apartment on the Upper East Side. We have one available, three bedrooms.

the judge says, where are the 24-7 security going to be? That Magnifalo says, would you like to speak to him or me? It's Patriot Security. They merged with Crisis 24. So, Brian, now, is this just the judge doing his full due diligence about understanding what bail would look like? Or is this kind of potentially a sign? Yeah, it might be a sign that he's leaning towards bail.

What we can take from this is that the judge is saying, him being on Star Island, that $50 mansion, that's not going to happen. He's going to have to be hold up, not really hold up because he's still going to be luxury. He's going to be in an apartment in New York City that he could come back and forth to court, especially for any emergency hearing and that he's going to be within the jurisdiction of New York City that if any of the agents associated with Eastern District, well, not Eastern District, Southern District, need to pick him up or whatever for any reason or check on him. They could easily have access.

So they're not going to let him go to Florida, clearly, based on the judge's question about that. So they're saying there's an apartment on Upper East Side, and then they're asking about the security. Here's what he said. He says there'll be two security. That's what Diddy's lawyer is saying. There'll be two securities in the apartment.

One downstairs, so a total of three. No access to phones or internet except for calls with counsel arranged by security personnel. This is more restrictive than MDC. Let's hear the back and forth for that. Discovery, that the defendant does. get discovery, that the defendant doesn't have the opportunity to defend himself with counsel. All those issues go away for you as a judge. He's not running anywhere. And if they're right,

and he's foolish enough to engage in threatening behavior while he's out on bail, that will be the first piece of evidence they introduced at his trial. So I think the judge is a pretty smart guy, and I think he well realizes that the original bail package probably should have been something that they gave serious consideration to. You know, he's presumed innocent. You know, that presumption of innocence all of a sudden fades away when we talk about celebrities. But he's presumed innocent in this case and bail is for people that are presumed innocent.

And he is. And for the prosecution's point of view, you know, in one hand, if he is let out, engages in obstruction, they can not only have the bond revoked, but gives him more evidence for potentially a superseding. Now, let's be clear. If Diddy's in like some mansion apartment, you know, he doesn't have a phone, but everybody else is going to have their phone. Like they're not saying no phones could permit the apartment and he can't leave the apartment. They could have phones in there.

He just can't have one. You know what I mean? Speaker phone. You know what I mean? Like, yo, Diddy's not using a phone, but maybe he's randomly talking while somebody has somebody that he would want to talk to on speaker phone. And by the way, here's the thing. Because this is the confines of his home, maybe this has happened. I don't know that it ever is required that once you're on house arrest, that you have to keep

every communication within the house monitored. So there's no, there's, you could put a, you can put a camera by the jail cells. You can't necessarily, you don't necessarily have to have a camera recording everything he says in his own house. Sometimes there are preconceived notions and the judge has kind of already made up their mind while you're arguing and you can see it in their face. Yeah, the judge is pretty fair. I think That's what he's getting at. You know, what seems to be a fair shake, but ultimately they have made up their mind. In this case, as the argument is progressing and his attorneys are adding on to the bail package

that he's not going to have any contact with anybody, he's not going to have any phones. And a lot of times when I have clients, high profile clients in federal or state court, and I offer 24-hour security, I usually hire X FBI, X DEA, you know, and I'm sure the company that he has is probably along those same lines that give credibility to the security that's going to be watching him and, you know, making sure who's checking in and who's signing out and things of that nature. All those things add up, you know, judge's mind to assure them that they're doing everything possible to kind of stay out of the way and not get in trouble. I honestly do think, listening.

to what's going on, the judge is giving serious consideration to allowing him out on bond, which to me is a surprise because a lot of times in federal court, you don't get that fair shake. You know, when you have these allegations and you're representing someone who's high profile, a lot of times these judges have made up their minds. I mean, we want to feel like every judge is fair. We want to feel that the judicial system is fair, is fair. But a lot of times that the judges have already made up their minds and it's very difficult to get a bond on this case. And I think that his defense attorneys are doing an excellent job

in putting together this bail package and explaining it to the judge and coming up on, and often you find yourself doing this coming up on the fly where the judge says, hey, that, that's not going to work. Florida is not going to work. I need something else. And it's like, yeah, I got an apartment on, you know, the Upper East Side. It's a three-bedroom apartment. We're going to put them in. That's not easy to do. And it is a hats, a hat. off to his defense for coming up with those things on the fly and being able. I'm going to be honest, his defense attorney is looking a lot better now that he's only operating in court and he's not talking to the media.

And I think that's ditty that probably told shut the fuck up. No more interviews, no more documentaries, no more press conferences. In there, you can just, oh, where am I? Where is this case happening? Yeah, I got a property around the corner. Let me ask you this. So this was brought out by the prosecutors earlier on where they said, okay, want to talk about the security team?

So they say, because the judge asked, you know, what are we talking about? They said, what type of security team? He's suggesting a co-conspirator, one whose phone was taken only the day before. The second suggestion, excuse me, was a defense investigator in this case. That investigator has been out contacting witnesses. Essentially, they work for him. So the reason I bring that up is because the judge just said, the government is saying Mr. Combs would be paying these people.

It comes down to trust. Mark Agnifalo. Again, Sean Combs' defense counsel says it's a different relationship. There are professionals that are only going to be in his life for eight months. It's a high-profile case. He goes on to say he's been in jail 66 days without a laptop. He only got one a few hours ago. What is unique here?

Also, another update that came through. Diddy's lawyer says, Diddy will avoid all contact with anyone who may be a witness. I think he has a right to do that. But I want to make it easy for the court as possible. we're going to investigate thoroughly before the May 5th trial. I think he has a right to assist. So basically saying, Ditty won't reach out to no witnesses,

but we are investigating. Justice Someranian says, the government is saying that Mr. Combs will be paying these people, okay, comes down to trust. And I'm guessing they're saying about the security team that's going to be working for him, that's going to be monitoring him.

And they're saying, well, it's a different relationship. These are professionals that are only paid, that are only going to be in his life for eight months. It's a high-profile case. And Agnophilius says, well, he's been in jail for 66 days without a laptop. You only got one few hours ago. What's unique here is that is to have waited nine weeks to get a laptop in the MDC. The judge says the solution is for you to come to me,

and we can call these hearing to get things done. So it looks like the judge is also on the other side saying, yo, well, if he has a problem in jail, now we're not talking about the food in this and third, and he wants more of rec time. But, yo, if he can't get access to discovery, I could make an order to have the government present him certain things, right? that he needs to prepare for trial with.

I'm surprised if that's not the case. Right. And knowing Mark, as I do, who's a preeminent lawyer, they'll make sure it is the case. If they've already provided a team, they'll get a better team if that's an issue with the judge. Let me ask you this, Brian. Yeah, I'll ask you both this,

because this is a question that we got from one of our YouTubers Floss Daly. Who pays the security company? If Dittie's paying it, is that a conflict? I'll allow either one of you to address that. If Bradford, you want to address that? Sure, yeah, because I was going to add in. It's an absolutely great question.

And what I do is to kind of take out the stench of any kind of impropriety that you think could go on. I figure out, okay, if it's 24-hour security for eight months, it's going to be 250,000, whatever it's going to be. and I instruct my client that we put that money in my trust account and that or and or a company is hired to pay them separately from just the defendant. So they're not relying on the defendant to get a paycheck. It kind of takes that sting out. I mean, there's always going to be a sting of, hey, hey, I'll give you an extra $1,000 if you do XYZ. You can never kind of get rid of that kind of thing.

But you can take out one of the links in the chain and say, they're going to be getting their paycheck from either ADP or they're going to get the paycheck from my law firm. But they're not going to be relying on the defendant to get paid. And they can't be threatened like, hey, you're not getting a paycheck unless you let me use your phone. A lot of times that also helps in these situations where a judge is asking about, you know, how is this going to work with this 24-hour security? and they're going to be behooving to him because he's the one who's paying it. I think it takes it.

Yeah, here's a reality about it. I've seen people on house arrest and they have supposed it hired security. The security is pretty at pretty much at liberty to the person who's hiring them, whether they're getting paid directly or not. They know the guy you're protecting is the boss. So, you know, in jail, they treat the inmate like, yo, We don't work for you. Like, you know, you're just another one of the people here.

Well, that's not going to be the case if you're paying these people. And by the way, you're paying them 24 hours a day. You're paying extra for overtime. You're paying because it has to be a schedule that has to be maintained. You're paying a good amount of money. This is private. You're paying a good amount of money. They're not going to treat you like shit.

They're not going to talk to you like the COs. They're going to develop a rapport with you. Like, I'm pretty sure I guarantee this. The security that's working in Didi's crib, if Didi's like your bro, could you get me some water? they're going to get him some water. You know what I'm saying? If he's like, yo,

hey, yo, could you pass me this? You know, they're going to pass him this. I'm pretty sure they said, yo, could you tell somebody at the front desk

that I got this being delivered? Could you tell them to bring it up? They're going to do it. And that, that blur is the line because you're not just only security that's almost like tantamount to a CO. You're kind of,

you know, like you work for this guy. Yeah, you have to do certain things, but maybe not, completely break the rules, but you might bend the rules a bit. You know what I mean? And you start doing things for them. You can't tell a CO like nigger, nigger do A, B, C, and D for me, unless they're

clearly breaking the rules, right? Or every week or two with a complaint about discovery. He didn't get his computer. We've got so many terabytes to go over. We don't have the ability to defend. It puts so many issues into a case that can be easily resolved with agreeing to the bail package. So it was just another thought. And Brian's 100% correct. Yeah, Bradford, jump in on that, yeah. Yeah, he's 100% correct.

So first of all, there's been cases in New York. I've had cases in New York where we've recommended private security and got granted private security. And around the country, when you look at these high profile cases, there's been many, many cases where private security, one of them is NBA young boy who had a case in Louisiana. he had private security as part of his bail package in Utah. Kodak, who I represented, he had a private security as part of his bail package. It's happened many, many times. And I think the number one thing, the number one takeaway that Brian is so, so, so right on is that this searching of his jail cell was so very stupid by the government.

And they just can't help themselves. Like it's really sometimes, you know, they can't have. help themselves. Even when they have cases that they feel are good, they want more. Well, just to be fair, they said this sweep of the MDC was, it was comprehensive. It wasn't just at aimed at Sean Combs. His defense team says it was a pretext, but just to give you the other argument. Yeah, I have a, I have a very cheap bridge for sale for you. Listen, I think, I think that this was, I think it was a target. I find it very hard to believe that it wasn't. You had a specialist that was there that normally is not there. He's taking pictures

of items that have nothing to do with what they're searching for, phones and drugs and things of that nature. I find that very hard to believe. And it just is shocking sometimes when you look at the government, when they have so much power, they have so many assets that they can use to obtain guilty verdicts. And they want more. They always want more. And in this case, I think this bit them in the behind. I think that the only reason this judge is being so not, I don't want to say he's being so reasonable.

The only reason that this judge has considered some of these arguments, I think, and they're not falling on deaf ears, is partly because of the prosecution's, you know, dream that this was just, oh, this was something that was going to happen. And we didn't mean to get his notes. And even though we had his notes, we had a, you know, a team, we put up a Chinese wall. They have every excuse in the book.

But once you taint a case with something like that, it's very hard to regain a judge's trust. And I think that's why a lot of these questions are being asked of the prosecution. And in addition to this guy who got out, the CEO of Abercrombia Fitch, I just think a lot of things came together for Sean Combs to give him this opportunity. And this is his best shot. So we have another update from court where the prosecutor has now jumped in and said, consider Witness 1 a participant in multiple freakoffs. Defendant continued to contact Witness 1 after counsel was retained. The Instagram post was planned for a week using Contact Me, ASAP, and other inmates' codes.

Really, really interesting there about that, basically suggesting that John Combs is engaging in instruction. I wanted to ask you, we have a question from one of our viewers that I think is fast. That's interesting. it says um does somebody says there been other cases um with private guards uh hold on uh it says i have a whole presentation about the tape um but you've got enough already i can save everyone 15 minutes just as i've reviewed it who is here from the pre-trial services team um they says we maintain the conditions so they're saying that the conditions that ditty is facing they're saying this is wait we made Oh, they're saying the conditions being offered are insufficient of what they think someone who should be detained.

But even if it's on house arrest, it would be insufficient based upon D.D.E. Well, and everything else. The judge says, has there been other cases with private guards? And the pretrial says not that I'm aware of. Hmm. Interesting. By the way, I think they're also adding some notes and note. there in the UN corrupt case of blah blah blah he got massages with doors closed while confined in blah blah apartment so apparently inner city press is saying there has been a USA then says

consider witness one a participant in multiple freakoffs defendants continue to contact witness one after counsel was retained the Instagram post was planned for a week um using which instagram post i guess her somebody birthday post using contacting ASAP and other inmates quotes The AUSA then says his family member said the lawyers said not to do it and the defendants say, I don't care. It's my birthday. The judge says Ms. Shapiro said Sharon Coles is common and the conduct is covered by the First Amendment. AUSA says the BOP handbook prohibits this.

So basically, did he's own lawyers are, you know, they're kind of saying, I know he's breaking prison rules, but everybody breaks prison rules, right? And breaking prison rules doesn't include, it doesn't, it shouldn't affect the main case while you're here. And since there's no tampering, okay, cool, maybe he's not the best inmate, but we shouldn't use that to prejudice him. The rules at the Bureau of Prison, what makes you think he won't violate the rules of his bail? The reason I say that is because the prosecutor said his family, his family member said the lawyers, say not to do it, and the defendant responds, I don't care, it's my birthday. This is in regards presumably to that whole social media campaign about surrounding his birthday and the birthday

video. So the idea would be he just didn't care. He violated the BOP rules. The judge said, Ms. Shapiro said sharing codes is common with other inmates, and the conduct was covered by the First Amendment. The prosecutor says, the Bureau of Prisons Handbook prohibits this. So it becomes a question, the content of what he was doing, Bradford, versus did he just straight up break the rules And if he just straight up broke the rules, is that a concern for why he shouldn't be granted bail? So the rules that he broke are broken on the daily basis. Like it's so idiotic when they just overshoot every time and say like, oh, you know, it's three-way calling. He broke the rules.

I don't even know how many times. I'm sure Brian has been through the same thing. I don't know how many times our clients call us with three-way calls. and using someone else's pin. And it's not that they want to discuss anything. It's all attorney-client privilege when they call us, unless it's a three-way call and there's someone else on the line,

then it's not. And I always let my clients know that. But a lot of times they'll use other people's pins for different reasons. Like even when they call me from a different pin, it's because they feel like the government's still spying on a discussion between them and their lawyer. And they could be right.

You know, it's not like they're wrong. And a lot of times, or they want to call, you know, they're married and they want to call their girlfriend. So they instead, they use, you know, one of the other guys' pin numbers. It's so commonly done that it, I don't even consider it a flagrant violation of the rules. I don't even know if they give shots and what a shot is is a, you know, they give them some sort of a warning or some sort of pink slip for, you know, using someone else. I don't even know if they do that anymore because they're more concerned with the drugs and the cell phones and things that are snuck into jail. This is such a minor violation that the government here is saying is such a massive violation,

that unless they can really tie it up with that he's doing it to contact these witnesses and threatening witnesses, if the judge has real life experience, which I'm sure this judge does, he's going to look at that as a very minor violation of, the jail rules. And I don't think that shows that he's going to flagulently do things if he's let out. I just don't think that's a good argument. Well, here's... Okay. So we'll probably have another update here.

All right. So Did he flagrantly defied his lawyers, which, by the way, got to go's against what the lawyers said, oh, if we tell him to do something, he will. Now, granted, apparently they didn't tell Did he know. They told the son no. Like, you know, it's not a good time to post this. this up about your dad on his page. They tell that to

the dad and the dad says, fuck that, do it. Then they're coming back to say defendants use at least eight inmates codes. He bought them. He says, they say, contact me. ASAP operates through trulings, a trust for unlimited inmate computer system. And AUSA says

it's not permitted. In the Jeffries, one is detained. And judge says a foreign national. Let's see. Hmm. Any more updates?

Not yet, not yet. The headaches here are all driven by the fact that they've taken away his liberty before his trial. All those headaches, every single one of them, put aside for the sake of argument the government's concern about threat, every one of those headaches that inert to the defendant in terms of constitutional protections go away. All of the headaches for the court. in policing this, go away. So he becomes somebody else's problem and know well that if there's one issue, one issue, somebody goes sideways a little bit, somebody makes a phone goal somewhere.

Right. He's detained within five minutes of that incident. So the easy thing to do here, and I've been kind of, you know, saying this a month, is to let a guy have a $50 million bail package. I'm going to give you another question. Brian, because you know what? You're right. We've been beating the... By the way, these are defense attorneys. They're not going to say no, right? They make these arguments all the time. Obviously, this is an outstanding type of situation.

$50 million package, ditty. It's not normal. However, they make these arguments all the time for other people they represent. So they're going to be like, yo, this is, I got to let them out, right? They're not going to be on a, sorry. They're not going to be on the prosecutor side. One is detained and the judge said that's a foreign national. Okay, so making a little distinctions here. have a different question for you uh brian if i can find it if i don't lose it ah this is from latoya uh on youtube if he is convicted brian and sentenced to prison what happens with the civil lawsuits well i mean the civil lawsuits may may all at some point be indefensible um once he's convicted i i i again making sure all those civil lawsuits have some relationship to the charges here to the extent they do, they become indefensible.

You know, there'll be a conviction. That conviction will be part and parcel of the evidence in the civil case. He'd have to be deposed. If he was deposed while his case is on appeal, he'd have to assert the Fifth Amendment. The Fifth Amendment is an admission in a civil case. Those cases, if they are related to this event and he is convicted, become indefensible. All right, we have another update.

Prosecutor says this is more similar to the cases where detention was ordered talking about R. Kelly, Keith Rehnier, Larry Ray. Bradford, if you're sitting in that courtroom and you're representing Sean Combs and the prosecution, you know, mentions these other people. You know, R. Kelly was charged with sex trafficking and racketeering. How do you distinguish Sean Combs from those cases? Well, the funny thing is, and it's not that funny, is that the, you know, different areas have different issues with bond and how bond packages are done. In the R. Kelly case, I don't think number one is they came up with $50 million. They didn't have 24-hour security. They didn't have electronic monitor, taking away his cell phones, is computers, et cetera.

They didn't have any of that. So if you want to compare apples to apples, I think, and my opinion, is that the best case scenario is that Abercrombian Fitch CEO. I keep going back to it. It happened very soon in time. It was in an area that is right next to New York City, which is the Eastern District. He was allowed to surrender. He was given a $10 million bond. The guy still, nobody even knows.

If I was in a room with the CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch, I wouldn't know him from anyone, right? If I'm in a room with Sean Combs, I'm going to recognize him right away. So it's a little bit of a different situation. The CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch can disappear to Morocco. No one's going to recognize the guy. I mean, have you seen his face? He's got quite a distinguishable face, but that's a separate kind of issue. But anyway, yeah, I have.

I have. But the common man does not know who the CEO of Abercrombian Fitch is. I would argue that Sean Combs is known pretty much worldwide, especially even at this point. And that, I think, lends itself to, you know, really distinguishing him from the rest of these individuals. And we always say, like, hey, you know, money does this or money does that. And it's true, you know, of someone without substance might not be getting a bond on this case. But that's the whole point of bond is that it shows your commitment. to appear in court, to not violate the rules, to do these certain things.

So as you have more money, obviously, the bond is higher an amount to make... Oh, hey, by the way, I see a few K-bots, like usual, because I know y'all probably were sleeping. I'm not used to y'all men dropping some music. Your man's did drop. We listened to it. It was cool. It was good. Not even going to lie to you.

But it's not much for us to talk about. You get what I'm saying? again it's okay that's cool we're just gonna kind of move on with it you feel me now there's a couple songs we won't keep playing you know we might talk about some more I'm gonna do a lyric breakdown too but like the funny part about the K-bos is like

you drink fans y'am mad we need y'all no no it's all good we're moving on to the next thing did he here and uh we'll double back though but for now it's cool life goes on that more calling him to surrender like they would allow anyone I mean he's there to surrender

instead of allowing him to surrender, which a judge would have looked upon that favorably and said, oh, he surrendered himself. They go to his hotel and they pick him up at 9 o'clock at night. It was a real, to me, spit in the face. And I think the reason they did that, that's not hate. I see some people say, yo, that's hate.

That's not hate. What I'm saying is that even me, I'm saying Kendrick just dropped a good little body of work. I like it. I like it. I literally said I like it. Here's a problem with like his fans. and everything because genuinely most of the energy and interest is coming from putting him against

Drake that if there is no angle where people are saying oh man you violated him again oh man what Drake going to do this doesn't live beyond you see how that last song he dropped just disappeared right like nobody cared right what I'm saying is that there's some songs on here where I think it's cool I think I think it's good I think it's a good project But I don't know what more y'all want me to talk about. You know what I'm saying? If it's as good as y'all say it is, we will have a lot to talk about more. If not, it will just go by the win.

I do think, you know, anything he drops is going to be shocking. But I think some of y'all, I want to call it K-bots, like y'all literally want people to, like, stop and shocking all unbelief. No, I mean, again, I'm giving it the credit, good project. but would you want us to talk about it all day? For me, and maybe that's where my bias comes in, usually when I hear New Kendrick, I listen to it. I'm like, okay, this is cool, this is good.

But I don't listen to it. Like, you know what I play at the beginning of my streams. Like, I listen to Drake over and over and over again, and maybe you do that with Kendrick. I just don't. So I'm like, I listen to it. I'm going to listen to it again a little bit. But after that, I probably ain't going to listen too much often

unless there's a hit song. It is what it is. I know everybody, like, half of y'all are in denial. Y'all want this nigga to be as consumed as much as the other guy. Can't force people to do it, you know. But nobody's hating on it either. I'm giving kudos. Good project.

That's the thing about Kendrick fans. You can't please them. Me, I'm the biggest fan of saying, good project. Okay, next topic. No, no, no, we're not done talking. Come back to the. No, no, what more you want to talk about? What am we all talking about?

You get what I'm saying? If not today, Monday. These things are be tight. They just want me to like just keep. Like, it's clear that like a lot of the hype for Kendrick is fueled off of like even the outrage by like the people that supposedly either hate him or like Drake. And I don't know about nobody else who like Drake or whatever, but I'm telling you nice album. I like it. That's dope.

It's like the Tyler Creator album. Like, my nigga, I don't listen to Tyler a bunch of times. I think he makes music for like Metro. sexual niggas i'm gonna keep it i'm gonna say i listen to it i didn't i like a couple songs i thought it was valid i thought it's super creative but y'all didn't y'all weren't like yo talk about it more talk about it more like what the fuck like niggas over and i think that album's like a week and a half old it's the same thing with kendricks album okay and and most of it is my preference i don't listen to kendrick a lot like that like what the fuck am i going to listen to this nigger

with lack of melody i don't you hear me do my intros i sing i'm singing i'm not over here You see me with veins in my neck, nigga? Fuck no. You get what I'm saying? So, like, I listen to Kendrick. I give him the props for it being good, if it's good. But then I kind of move on. Like, his shit is not the shit that I bump every fucking day, right?

So y'all K-Bad, you got like two days. So after, like, these two days, and obviously, you know, he's still going to do well because I'm not the majority here. But if y'all wanted us to discuss, like, new themes, the only thing I could pull, like, we're not talking about J3 hit up. Like, nobody's the fuck about that guy. You know what I'm saying? dude's a loser on Twitter

You get what I'm saying What we're going to be talking about is Diddy this Drake And we'll go find those bars or those lyrics or whatever Shout to everybody else who got to look on the album And that's what we're going to do I feel like they're ruling against me And they say hey listen

I'm going to get a written or Let's see if we get another update So Combs lawyer says He has access to cell phones in MDC What the fuck But not under our conditions. Oh, so I guess they're saying, yo, there's cell phones in MDC. He has access to him if he wants to, but he hasn't used them. But in our conditions, he won't have any

access to him. And so he fights, he kicks, he makes phone calls. This could be addressed. Thank you. And the judge says, we're going to get a decision out prompt next week. So everything was adjourned and it appears that nothing will be decided today. So he listened to Bowie. both he's going to think about it and he's going to come back with a ruling tomorrow. Now, I would imagine that anything that wasn't submitted before the hearing or said in court won't be considered. So if they file more letters or whatever, it won't be considered, I would think. When you get a judge that is fairly new, it's usually very refreshing their take on certain issues.

I agree. This is a judge that's very refreshing. I think he's really carefully considering both arguments. As you said, right now the latest update is that he wants those letters Monday. We'll make a decision next week. This could possibly be Sean Combs last weekend behind bars. We will see. But the court has been adjourned.

Gentlemen, let me tell you, Brian McMonigal, Bradford Cohen. Thank you so much for your brilliant insight, your analysis, your generosity with your time. And let me just give you one last suggestion. Imagine you two teaming up. My gosh, what a power team you two would be together. So let me just leave you guys with that. I'm going to them now. Yo, you hope you're never in trouble.

But if you've got the amount of money and resources, you want these two. You definitely do. And, you know, it's always great to be on with individuals that have been in the trenches that have actually tried cases that have been doing this for a long time because we, warriors generally think alike. And it's always good to be on with someone like Brian. That's my compliment coming from you, my friend. All right.

gentlemen, thank you. Okay, cool. So we got that. And y'all, Kendrick fans, if you had to stick around, we'll talk about it now more. We came on here, and I streamed early for Diddy's Bell hearing. I streamed an hour and a half earlier to listen to Kendrick's project. I did. And we had some discussion on it.

And then we went to Diddy's stuff. And I see y'all be like, no, talk about Kenji, talk about Kenji, talk about Kendrick. I get it. You feel what I'm saying? And I want to be fair. You know, I absolutely want to be fair. I do try to put my biases. I know y'all really think this is super.

political, right? I know y'all really think this is super political. Drake is my favorite rapper. And I, and I, you know, it's just so funny when fans tell me this. There's Kendrick fan pages stand in this shit for free. Let's be very clear. I have made millions of dollars off of this beef from both of them. I don't give two fucks like that. Now, Drake's my favorite rapper. Cool. But like, y'all be just like getting at me like, like, like, y'all just think that what y'all are doing is Noble for free. And what I'm doing for money, I really give a fuck if it goes one way or the other. No, I don't.

Anytime Kendrick drops, pock is fat. When Drake drops, pocket's fatter. Remember that. Just calm it down. Okay, so please stop thinking I'm like super biased. You get what I'm saying? There is some bias there, but the bias, at least at this point, the battle is over. The bias is that I'm not the person who listens to Kendrick all the time.

and if that's what you want that person you got to find another YouTuber i don't listen to him all the time i do listen to him at times i have a lot of respect for him when it comes to his skill very talented guy whatever whatever now obviously we get into the narrative weeds yo is he a hater is he this cool whatever whatever do i like drakemore cool do i think that you know i mean um we're in a weird space i think we're in a very weird space right um like fans it's kind of sad Fans these days, and I didn't like when Drake fans are doing it. Fans are arguing about if Drake is a pedophile. I don't like that.

Drake fans are arguing if Kendrick beat his girl. I don't like that neither. Because if we really go down the list and we go down to history of what this is, I'm not saying that all these hip-hop people are imperfect people. But bro, that's just not something that fans of the culture and fans of the art hang their hats on. But this battle has turned it into this. Who's a good person who's not? He has a weird case.

Why is he around? I see like the Kendrick fans They start making This has nothing to do with Drake They start saying Yo but AC was cool with Little Boom And then Little Boom got exposed Like this is what

If y'all think this is what battle is gonna be And by the way, I'm gonna green on both sides Um Even to a certain extent You know I mean when Wack When Wack got on here with me And was talking about the dude

I didn't know too much about a dude Um People who I employ Definitely run my run the academics TV page. But from what I saw, I'm like, all right, I see where the angle is here. And obviously the people who I employed, they're Drake-esque, definitely. They're, they're, they watch me.

So they probably like Drake. I get it. But they're playing the petty game as everybody else, since Kendrick is now making it about who hangs around with who and who has whatever cases. And this is what Drake fans are doing. But I don't like it overall. Let's look up what everybody has been accused of. Let's look up whatever, whatever.

The point is what I'm trying to tell y'all is that we got to scale this back. Let's just scale this back. Kendrick put out an album today or I really want to call the tape. Some people want to call the album. I like the shit. I'm not going to lie. Bro, I remember listening to Untitled. I was like, this is fucking boring.

I'm going through it. I thought he kept my, he kept my, um, he kept my attention for the majority of the album. He threw in some disses. I'm not even, I like Drake and I'm not mad at the little dizzes he put in there. It kept me interested. It felt like he had, he had a chasties. tip on his shoulder. I like when he said that, yo, he was talking about, tell me why you should be the greatest of all time. Like, I like that type of energy, right? So I like some of the songs.

I'm going to be honest with you. And, you know, I'm going to be like, truth be told, I don't think a lot of people really want my harsh critique because they're going to call me a hater. And that's another thing. That's why I just said, it's good. Let me move on. Because if I get into the weeds, y'all going to call me a hater. Like, for example, if I go down and watch, this is why. And, you know, I kind of just don't even want to talk about that. Y'all go listen to the DJ head and that bum-ass, nigga, and go get y'all takes from that. Because if I speak about it, y'all going to be like,

oh, no, you're just hating that. Like, for example, I told you, I ranked it about, was it 8 out of 12 or 9 out of 12? I can't remember what it was. And it means those songs are decent or passable or above average or passable. And the ones I didn't like, honestly, and this is the reason why I keep calling a mixed date.

Every song he put mad people on, I don't think none of them shit's rock. I'm gonna be honest with you. This jink song, GMX, I don't think this shit was hot. He had three other rappers on. I'm not trying to disrespect them because I know how big of a moment it is for them. The hit a dude who's,

I just thought he was a Twitter crashout guy. Never even knew he fucking rap. I thought he was just like a hired goon. I thought he was like, I thought he was Kendrick's more version of Baca. Right? Obviously, no Peso and then Young Threat I've heard about. Cool.

This was a huge song for them. Overall, I don't like this song. I'll never play the song again. I think the song is garbage. Okay, Gloria, I like the outro. I like him and sis are going back and forth. I do like that. I like, so I like the intro.

I like that. I like them on Luther, squabble up. I love that beat, even though I think it falls off towards the end. Man of the Garden, I thought that's dope. My favorite song is reincarnated. Haynows also fire, TV off. I was kind of like, ah, this is kind of meh, until it gets to the middle. Then, of course, you see, yo, mustard snap.

Yo, like, where's that part goes? He's like, yo, mustard. Like, I love that shit. Like, this is great, right? Look. Yeah, there's not enough. Yeah. Right?

Here you go. There you go. Now, I like that shit. I can't play it. I'm on YouTube now. So for you K-Bots, the thing is, y'all only tune into hate. I don't tune in to watch the streams. That's why I tweet out the Twitch link.

I watch. I listen to everything. I can't play it. Even if Drake dropped an album, I would have to go on Twitch. I can't. They're labeled. aren't going to this ain't beef time no more in beef time and by the way if kendrick label it hit me and say oh act you could play it on all platforms we probably played it here and got 70 80 000

people watching i'm gonna play it on twitch we had 10 000 people watching because my twitch is not the most popular platform i'm on it's youtube you get what i'm saying so i know that when when a label drops an album is cash out time that rat beef shit was they were letting a lot of shit fly and And that's why I love why that happened. I played not like us 20 times on stream. I guarantee. Like, I don't even want to try it. Or y'all want to try for all the K-B.

Well, I'm not going to cut my stream for K-Bots. Because if I play this song, I'm on YouTube now. If I play it for over 30 seconds, it's going to show me the notice on my end, and YouTube's going to say, stream suspended. I can't play it. I got to play it on Twitch. So y'all should have showed up early to the Twitch thing. I'm not going to cut my stream to go back solely on Twitch.

We're here. So we're having. discussion so if you didn't i mean you guys should have all listened to it so i have conversation about it so let me just keep going over the whole thing i think most of these songs that he featured these west coast artists on were poverty honestly and i mean that respectfully i think it's a big look for the artists and even if they're poverty kendrick featuring them even though he could have like put them their name in the credits that's a big look but the reason why i say poverty they don't sound like nothing you would play again at least me i don't think those

are any hot songs we respectfully okay um whacked out murals i thought it's a great intro i like it squabble up we heard it was a preview to not like us i like it luther him and him and um sisa i like it man of the garden um i like it by the way he's using some really dope samples with all those hey now i like it reincarnated my favorite joint he's doing the pock thing he almost like a pock impression damn near then he gets to this introspective part where he's talking with god supposedly or some type of higher being. I like it. TV off.

I was about to say, ah, it's about mid. And then what happened in the middle? The mustard shit, come on. I'm like, oh, this is fire. Mustard, you killed it. Dodger blue, let me see. Was this one he, yeah, he threw a few people on this.

Hey, this is passing the ball. This is not the hottest song, but he's passing the ball. I fuck with it, right? Peekaboo. I think he's also passing the ball. I fuck with it. I fuck with the passing a ball aspect because I've criticized Kendrick

about taking this moment all for himself. Right now he could put on West Coast artists. This is the moment that if Kendrick wants to change the sound of music, he can't. He has the ultimate power right now. I've said that he has infinity stones. He should try to help his region rather than being the sole guy from the region. Because we really can't name another pop and rapper from L.A. other than Kendrick, respectfully.

Roddy Rich has been knocked down a notch. YG hasn't been the same since like 10 years ago It's been very different So to watch how Kendrick is the hottest rapper in the game Right now And how people Like, you know, I'm speaking as a non-West Coast person

I hate talking to West Coast dudes about West Coast shit Because they're so delusional Like this is why nobody watches like a bum-like DJ head And even respect to like, you know, some of the guys I do like, like for example, like what's my guy name AD is that they're so stuck in L.A. or stuck in West Coast mode,

they think everybody else outside of L.A. cares about what they got going on. Nobody has heard about these dudes till today. Like, we don't listen to these other West Coast guys. Kendrick is like the sole guy. I'm sorry to tell y'all. So that's why I was saying for the longest, if I'm Kendrick, I'm going to put my coast on. And by the way, I think he tried to.

And I'm giving him credit for trying to. Half of these niggies I've never heard about before other than the pop out. And that is, hey, listen, I know some people are going to be like, that's disrespectful. Get out your own feelings. See, a lot of the West Coast, they live in the West Coast like West Coast is the biggest place ever. And hopefully they're successful there. But nobody listens to that shit outside of that. Kendrick has the opportunity to change it.

And he did throw mad alley hoops here. And I respect that. So Dodger Blue, I don't necessarily care for that song, but shit, he's thrown out of you. Pika, well, I don't necessarily care for that song in terms of it be like a hit, but he's thrown to alley-up. I got to respect it. The Hard Part 6, I kind of expected a little bit more.

I expected it a little bit more in terms of, you know, Drake rapped over and called a song the Hard Part 6. So you take him back over your series, I'm expecting you to have a different type of vengeance. It was kind of a mellow vibe, but it was still good. So, you know, we probably got to hit that with a little. lyric breakdown to really get all the intricacies because that's what kentrick really does get that so so i'm gonna say that's good dmx again he's passing the ball bro he got like all these other dudes on it he's

like again these aren't hot songs it's not like kendrick put these niggas on the bop the song that we're gonna end up playing from this over and over again y'all not on that song but it doesn't matter if y'all on that song because kensick has the infinity stones as i said i was critiquing kensick because i think he should have tweeted out. He should have threw up on the story, Mustard's album. Mustard sold 17K. Mustard could have sold 30K just off of an Instagram shoutout. I guarantee it. That's how powerful Kendrick is. I'm telling you right now, this is objectively speaking. So I think that he should show these guys love, and I think he's done it. Another track with Mustard. He showed Roddy some love. Roddy was at the pop out. He showed a lot of these new artists who now, shit,

There's a couple of the AZ Chi kick. I'm like, all right, yo, I might go Google his music. I've never listened to him beyond the pop out day of my life. That is actually a sister-in-an-artist, and I respect that. Okay, then we get Gloria with the last song, which I like, scissors on that too. I overall graded this album as good. I'm not giving it a letter rate nor I'm not giving a number score, but I consider it good, okay? It's not average.

It's not whack. It's above average. Okay? Good. Now, here's the problem. And Kendrick fans, y'all going to have to, like, I'm giving you a real positive advice here. Y'all are trying to, y'all are now doing these elitism shit with Kendrick that's going to make people fuck with him less. Where y'all feel y'all are above everybody else or no other artist compares or he could do no wrong. And when you do that, people start hating that person. Think about the LeBron James hate for the majority of his career. It was because there were certain people hyping him up so early,

acting like he could do no wrong that people wanted to see him fail. It's like even with Floyd. Y'all are doing that to Kendrick. Y'all don't allow people to, like, give him as props, but give him some criticism. You act like the niggas Jesus. That's the biggest problem. And if y'all were a little bit more even killed, I think people could, even someone like me. Yo, it's a good project.

I like this. I'm wondering if he's going to do some visual. I'm looking at it as a mixtape. Let's see if he's going to work these songs. Let's see how he kind of takes this. I know he doesn't really say much, but let's see how he kind of plays this, because this is an interest in play.

I think it's going to sell well. Let's see how it rocks. The K-Bots want everybody, and this is what I realize about Kendrick fan base. They come across as being jealous of Drake and Drake's fan base in a sense of they want how people look at Drake for people to now look at Kendrick all over a battle.

It doesn't work like that, right? No, Drake's career didn't end. No. Like, if Drake dropped a song, right now, like, remember, I was one of the people who criticized when Drake dropped for all the dogs. It's a lot of singing. I believe it was going to be on that,

if you're reading, this is too late type of time. But you know what ended up happening? And that's why I came back around that album. Me and Drake got into it over it. That album has a lot of replay value. There's a lot of songs for the girls, a lot of songs about, like, you know, mood.

type music. Nope, pun intended with Joe Bunn. But it was a lot of music that reflected you dealing with issues, dealing with women, which that's Drake's novelty. And it caught on after a while.

A lot of people play all these songs, members only, Bahama Promises, try their best, Virginia Beach. Like, these songs have worked. Like, it's stayed, right? Life came around on that album.

Right? But at first, did it get bad reception? Yeah, people gave that shit bad reception in the first. It happened. So that's why I'm watching our little k-bots, like hoping people gobble up Kendrick in two hours after he dropped like you are.

No, just give it time. If the music is that good, we're going to talk about it. I'm telling you, I don't think off-rip is... By the way, here's the thing. Off first listen, I think this is better than all first listen for all the dogs. But here's the thing. For all the dogs, I didn't get it, and I went into it. I always said I blame myself as a fan.

I went into it with a fucked up perspective of what I expected from Drake. When I listened to it, more, I was like, this shit is great. This is why sometimes, no matter how much you're even cool with the artist, you're a fan. Let the artists do what they do. Because for all the dogs, it's my joint, right? Will I say this about Kendrick's album? I don't know.

I'll tell you the main theme that happens when I listen to Kendrick album. I never hear Kendrick album and say, this is trash. I always say, because a lot of times when I'm listening on first, this is I'm thinking about, you know, it's almost a robust type of way of listening of, okay, check out this sample, check out this beat, this beat switch, these lyrics. It's like, yeah. But every time I listen to Kendrick's album, yo, I said to Pimp a Butterfly is one of the best albums of all-time critical. I haven't played that album in fucking years.

Just think about that. I've never played an album in years. So think about an album that I'm giving the ultimate praise to that I don't listen to no more. I listen to Drake probably four hours a day, every day. Now, critically, are the songs I'm listening to Drake higher ranked than Kendrick? No, but Kendrick, I know, and this is where Kendrick fans, you know, I think this is their problem. They don't criticize them. You might say I glaze Drake all you want, but I do criticize it.

I don't know. I do criticize him. Kendrick has a problem with songs that, with making songs that have replay value. His songs always have substance, but a lot of times it's so heavy on the message. It's so heavy and buried in lyricism that it feels like a chore listening to. And after you listen to it for that first day, maybe that first week, while everybody's talking about it, you never fucking go back to it. And we saw that with that album that, or that song that he dropped, watched the party

dies the first song outside of the beef that was supposed to be kentrick showing what he got except after three days of everybody giving their hot take about it and every i saw not one person say that shit was whack everyone said it was brilliant but not one person talk about that song right now that's a thing that i think that and i'm not really blaming the fans but the fans do exhibit they want because we give kendrick props for us to play songs all the time it don't work like that. It don't work like that. And that's for the artist to figure out. You know, if we go back to Hove, Hove said, lyrically, I could be Talib Qa Ali, but truthfully, no, I said the truthfully, I could rhyme like common sense, but, but some, some, I'm, I've been rhyming like common

sense. Lyrically, I could be like Talib Qa Li, but he's had these lyrics kind of explain the same phenomenon of conundrum that we're talking about. Here's the only like silver lining when it comes to Kendrick for me. Kendrick Lamar created an album called Damn. And to me, that was the best body of work that could mirror walk in that very fine line of having a message, being non-compromising in your artistic integrity and lyrical integrity, but still making music that people could listen to outside the first three days of it dropping. People still listen to Dan. That's why he was allowed to take five years off. What I'm saying with this project, I give it the thumbs up.

Sounds good. Will I want to play this shit beyond this week? That's the test. Because with Drake is usually the opposite. You know how many times I've listened to Drake's shit? And the moment I'm listening to it, because I'm a fan with expectations. And Drake's is more difficult palate to expect than Kendrick.

You know what you don't get with Kendrick. With Drake, I'm expecting R&B a timestamp record. club records international records crazy collabs I'm expecting some hybrid R&B and it's very complex so when he comes with

with more R&B than the talk shit braggadocia shit sometimes as a fair you might be unhappy initially but then you realize good music and he he always has the knack of replay value

I always listen to Drake music six months later. Kendrick, I haven't found myself listen to any one of his problems, except damn, obviously, and good kidnacity. I haven't found myself listen to anything from Kendrick Lamar outside of that one week window where he drops it. We all listen to it then. We give hot takes. We give these like, you know, breakdowns.

Oh, yeah, da, duh, he's good. We all give him the credit for being good. and like how, you know, technically is one of the best. But then two months later, we're only bumping future. Let's be honest, we're bumping future and gonna. We're not putting KDOT on in the whip. And that's my only thing. And I'm hoping, and this is why I'm calling this a tape.

Because this is, like, he shows glimpses of it. But I do believe Kendrick gets the message. Nigger, you need to make damn. That's the fine line. And I think he's going to drop a damn. It's going to be a deep, overlooked that's thematic, but it's going to also have the bops. You've got to straddle that fine line.

And here's why I say you have to. Because when he went at Drake, a lot of it, for me, came out as jealousy. If you're jealous of Drake and you want what he got in terms of the praise and popularity that he got or how people talk about him, you know how you got to do, you have to make music that fits the bill.

You have to drop more frequently. You have to make music that the bitches are going to want to play in the club, that they're going to want to play while they're doing their makeup, that they're going to want to listen to all their beef with their boyfriend or their side nigger and tweet about it. You're going to have to do all of that. That the niggas in the trenches, the emo niggas are going to want to say something about. That the goons, you're going to have to do all that.

And that's my thing. So when I hear that, this is why I keep saying this is a tape. Because this don't accomplish that. And I don't want to bash the album on first. Listen, and the way I know you don't need to roll out some shit, but I don't think this is an album. I think this is a tape. Also, I think if he's trying to do that, you're not giving it.

There's four songs with all due respect. I'm not disrespecting out L.A. dudes, but he gave out some charity on it. Hey, let me give you a little feature. Appreciate you. Get a little feature. Appreciate you. Yeah. If he was trying to do what I'm thinking that he was aiming at,

he's not dropping them songs on it. And now when I say that, you're going to hear the K-bots, they're going to be mad because they don't like criticism. They want us to just sit here and call this nigger Jesus. So this is why I get to this place where, even if I call somebody from the West Coast, shout to 80, I talk to him,

they have no critique. Album of the year. That's it. They don't, it's like, because everybody on the West Coast, is moving behind a party line, which is west up, nobody has any critique. It's just like, classic, best album ever.

And we live in a society where we break everything down. We break everything now. Yo, shit, conversation came out, come out around Jay Cole's project, came around Drake's project, like, we do that. So again, it's hard to discuss with people of that, you know, the ilk about what the next thing, about this project in its totality, because honestly, I don't think anyone

really wants to have a real conversation about it. So I listen to it. I said it's good. Y'all could know I'm not hating because I said it's good. But what more y'all want me to say about it? Y'all want to say change the shit? No, I know, no. Also, I also have, like, you know,

I think Kendrick does a really good thing. And I have theories about Kendrick that I'm wondering if how they're going to manifest. One is a false, like a false profit theory. When a nigga drops a song, say, to watch the party die, and he's telling you what's wrong with the game. And he seemingly is setting himself up to be the guy who's going to fix the game. I'm watching to see how he does it. Okay, you gave some shoutouts.

But how do you fundamentally change what people care about? Or are you just having because like even, you know, my favorite song here reincarnated, half of the song is him having a conversation with himself. Is he a hater or is he just competitive? Is his heart in the right place? I understand having an inner turmoil. Like, that's what artists do. But I'm also watching his moves because he's saying that he's going to do a culture shift.

That's what I'm getting from the message in Kendrick's saying. But part of me believes I don't think Kendrick's going to do no culture ship. I think he just wants to be number one. He wants to be remembered for this generation as the de facto number one guy and the goat. And Drake has kind of held that title. And I think the battle and a couple of things now, he's trying to reposition that. But it's all for self-recognition. It's not necessarily for this cultural shift that he's claiming we're going to get.

So I'm watching him kind of. like navigate through that are you are you are you a hypocrite are you um are you are you well within your right we're figuring it out so I don't know what people want me to say anyway oh the ditty stuff is back on yeah am I tripping my bed I just went on a rain I didn't read the comments for a while am I tripping chat please let me know if I'm tripping oh my god one of my dogs are out what the fuck am I tripping I might be um Okay, give me one second, and I got to go let my dogs. And I was wondering, who the fuck my friend?

Social media posts about his family, his life. There was a back and forth about whether or not he can talk about, reverse the narrative for himself, or whether or not that is trying to improperly influence a potential jury pool. So you heard a lot of back and forth. Big theme was whether or not he should be allowed out, considering Mike Jeffries, the former CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch,

who was also charged with sex trafficking and arrest recently. He was let out on a $10 million bail package. Sean Combs was proposing a $50 million bail package, private 24-7 security, at least three security guard members would be watching him. No internet use, no phone use, limited to his conversations with his attorneys, only a limited amount of visitors. So the judge is taking all of this under advisement, which seems to be a wise decision, and by all accounts, we'll have a decision about Sean Combs' bail next week. Now, I want to bring in Elizabeth Milner from law and crime, a very own. She was in, that courtroom for the hearing. She's outside of that federal courthouse right now. Elizabeth,

good to see you. What did you see? What were your observations inside there? Yeah, Jesse, a lot of interest in today's hearing for sure, especially with the whole debate on whether or not Sean Didy Combs could actually go home or at least be at home in time for Thanksgiving. I will say that I arrived to the courthouse around like 1215 today. Not a lot of people out. So I thought we actually came here a lot early. So when I went inside the courthouse, I was actually surprised to see the amount of reporters that were already in line waiting for to go inside that hearing. Now, I got inside the courthouse probably about 45 minutes before the hearing started, and probably at least 15 other journalists and lawyers were ahead of me in the line.

So I was actually very lucky to get a seat today. Now, they actually moved the courtroom to a different location than it was on Tuesday's hearing. Again, that was an emergency hearing. But for this scheduled hearing that's been on the calendar for about a few weeks now, they had it actually at the top floor, so a lot more people were able to get inside that courtroom. And let me tell you, a lot of people were inside that courtroom in that hearing. Even members of the public as well, too, I feel like I saw some teenagers kind of wanting to know as well, too, what was going on inside that hearing.

Because I think they also probably wanted to get a glimpse of Didia as well, too. But let me just kind of paint a picture to our viewers about what you kind of see when you walk inside that federal courtroom. So, of course, when you first walk in, you're going to see the gallery. You're going to have a left-hand side or right-hand side. The left-hand side is for left-hand side, excuse me, is for some of the defense attorneys as well as members of Colonses family, other public interest. And on the other side, it's going to be some extra attorneys from the government side, as well as all of the reporters. And we were really kind of body-to-body inside that courtroom. Then when you kind of go outside of the gallery, then you have the defense table, then you have the prosecutions table, and then you have the judge, obviously, on the bench.

So it's a little different from how when we normally cover trials, you know, you have the defense on one side, you have the prosecution on another side. So a lot of us in the reporter side, we were kind of anxious to see if Diddy's kids were going to be at the hearing today. And they did. They arrived. They were in unison. They all came in holding hands together, too. And Sean Combs' mother, Janice was also in that courtroom too. But another person who I found particularly interesting to be inside that courtroom was Lawanda Lane. Now, she is the best friend of Kim Porter, and as we have been reporting on, she has been taking care of Sean Combs's twin daughters, Delilah and Jesse. Walcombs has been locked up inside that federal detention center. But whenever they came in, it was kind of different from when all of the family had come in during that October hearing and that it went silent.

That wasn't necessarily the case. A lot of people were kind of whispering and talking a little bit back and forth and inside the gallery. Then they all came in. Again, they were all holding hands. They all sat down beside each other. And then, of course, court proceeded and everything like that. I was expecting some moments of like maybe some tearing up because remember, and I'm sure you've already told our viewers this, when they were kind of discussing one, the freak-offs, the assault video that was released by CNN earlier this year,

as well as just some of Diddy's conduct or alleged conduct, I should say, you know, I can imagine just being 17 years old. I'm specifically talking about Jesse and Delilah Combs because they are still underage here, that it can be hard to listen to your father's, alleged conduct and just hearing just kind of the inner details of what all is going on. Obviously, it's been making the news everywhere. It's not really a secret. But at the same time, to be inside a courtroom for two hours and kind of listening to your father's conduct, I can imagine to be hard. But from my side and from what I saw, I didn't see much of an emotion, emotional reaction or anything like that as far as it coming from Diddy's children. And so they pretty much kind of stayed forward, kind of kept their eyes on what the judge was saying,

what the defense was saying, obviously what the government was saying when they were making their arguments. So I didn't see any type of actual emotion whenever they were making their arguments. But again, I can only imagine what may have been going on in their head as well, too. But it's also significant that they were in the courtroom because, as I mentioned on Tuesday, they weren't here on Tuesday. And it was probably likely because it was an emergency hearing. I'm sure flying all the way out from Los Angeles or possibly Miami can be a lot to do. in the matter of just getting 24 or 12-hour notice. And so, you know, it wasn't very surprising that they were all inside the courtroom.

But again, it's significant, too, because the government alleges that they are all doing this as kind of like a PR stunt and kind of in a way to sway the jury into making them seem like a unified family. I mean, we've seen this before in trials. And I want to kind of make a clear distinction on the comparison I'm about to make here. I mean, we've seen this before in trials. And I'm talking specifically about the Alec Murdoch trial where, you know, Alec Murdoch's family came inside. that courtroom as well, too. So it wasn't very surprising that he had his family there to kind of back him up. But I will say, just like on Tuesday, whenever Diddy did come into the courtroom and how he beamed and how he looked at, every single person in the gallery. It wasn't like that this time.

So when he came inside, it was still in that khaki jumpsuit. He, again, looks kind of grayish a little bit like that, a little thin. But at the same time, you know, being in jail or a federal detention center for the past two months, obviously that's going to kind of wear and tear on anybody, somebody like Sean Diddy Combs, but as soon as he came inside that courtroom today, he beamed up immediately looking straight at his family. And that was pretty much the only people he kept eye contact with outside of his attorneys. So he looked immediately at his family. He blew kisses to them all, kind of like a little like, I love you, mouthing of the words type of thing. And even before the judge got on the bench, he turned to them once again, too, to kind of

just mouth a little like, you know, like it felt like he was just happy to see them, I should say. And then, of course, when he sat before he sat at the defense table, he hugged every single one of his attorneys. But again, like I said, Tuesday, you know, Diddy knows that a lot of eyes are on him at this time. So there's not going to be a moment where we don't see what we expect to see of Sean Diddy Combs, if that makes sense. We're going to see somebody who's not going to appear defeated. We're going to see somebody who is going to appear with smiles. So that way I think he's also kind of signaling to the world that he's okay in a way, but at the same time maybe reassuring his family, especially his daughters, who, again,

the twins Jesse and the liar just 17 chance just turned 18 okay all right this is ongoing did I help explain the Kendrick stuff more in chat I don't want you to think I'm hating it's kind of crazy like the expectations here by the way it's doing good like look you could tell look at the amount of people looking at lyrics it's a lot it's a lot um we'll definitely do some lyric breakdowns. I didn't, for some reason, I missed where Roddy Rich was at. Oh, Roddy Rich is, he's in the chorus, but that's about

it. Okay. Okay, by the way, it's given, so we got Cizza on this. A Z, Chiquan, Dotty 6 here. Right? Roddy Rich, Sam, do, and Inc.

Dotty 6. So Doddy 6 gets like two looks. Cizza, since it gets two looks or is it three can't remember there's somebody that's featured on hard six who's singing oh oh it's a sample swv and cocoa okay all right all right by the way hey i'll also give kentrick this kudos and credit i'm glad you know me i'd be falling asleep when it's too late i hate when albums drop in midnight right if i'm streaming before then I'm already drunk and I usually just fall asleep, right?

Not the quality of the album, I just fall asleep. Kendrick dropped during a time where you're up in the middle of the day. If you're at work, you can listen on your lunch break or you can listen out to work. I like that. I like that. And I do like the fact that him and Tile the creator have chosen their time to drop. Even though Tile the creator announced his and Kendrick did announce his, right? That's kind of cool.

All right. So no movement yet on the Ditty situation. the judge is going to think it over. I think the judge has a big, it's a really big decision to make because, you know, long crime did say this. If they grant Diddy bail and say Did he successfully

like pay somebody off? You know what the prosecutor is going to say, right? Well, Judge, we told you not to let this guy out. We told you he would do this. He's done this. It's fucked up our case. So when we go forth

with this hatched-assed-ass case that's fucked up because one of our witnesses no longer wants to cooperate, one of our witnesses is we can't find them. We got to blame this on you, Judge. Like, we told you, keep this guy in custody. This is our best chance, right? So we will see what happens. He said he's going to do a ruling what he said.

So we're going to get a decision out prompt next week. So next week, that's when we're going to get a decision on that, right? All good. If you're tuned in to the, um, if you tune in here because we listen to Kendrick's album, I'll constantly go back and forth about it, but, or back and forth with certain things about it as it comes up. Because the whole internet is kind of consuming it, and they're trying to figure out parts that's interesting or things that it can break down.

Kendrick apparently, you know, because Kendrick occupies the space of, um, whatever he says, people add additional meaning. There's actually a movie for it. There's a movie called Numbers. I'm a math major. or so like I, you know, I cared about that. But there's a theory that says if you obsess over a number, your brain becomes almost damn near trained to see it,

which means, for example, you ever bought a car or you ever had a car, your friend got a new car, and when you're driving in that car, all you kept seeing is other cars like it. And really it's not that the percentage of that car being on the road is different, is that your mind is more paying attention to it. How does this relate? Well, when it comes to Kendrick,

Kendrick has now the hip-hop audience in the space of thinking that he's always talking in riddles and he's always having some really deep meaning that you have to Google. So, for example, like today, they're saying, oh, we know the significance of today. Because on one of the joints on the album, he says, headshot. And apparently, JFK, which is a former president, assassinated. his assassination date was November 22nd. So people feel like he mentioned headshot and dropped it today because it was JFK's assassination date.

Now, I'm going to be honest with you. This is where I think y'all really give Kendrick too much credit. What the hell does JFK assassination? By the way, JFK, you know, this is why you know Kendrick, let me not say Kendrick fans, but people who are fascinated about all these deeper meanings. They're a little bit nuts. because let's just be very clear here

JFK was a beloved figure right it's one of the reasons that after assassination people have very they've spoke highly and people have talked about the Kennedy family he was a beloved figure Drake isn't a beloved figure right now in the press he's not

not for hip-hop Kendrick is so why would you make reference to the date a beloved figure died by the hands of some weirdo. That would basically almost be saying like Kendrick is saying that he's the weirdo who killed the beloved God.

That's definitely not what he would say. So that's when you realize that fans start to put false meanings on what Kendrick is saying because they're trying to make whatever he did deeper than it is. Oh, he dropped on the 22nd. Keep in mind, there's a big event that happened every day for the year sometime in history. You know, we've lived some years now, right? Look, November 23rd historical events, right?

There's always going to be something. Look, we could look at this. Really, I think the negative is dropped on a Friday. You know, I mean, today's a Friday. That's when the tracking starts. But you could probably find something. Massacre in the Philippines. The French of the Poles defeated the Spanish.

the Battle of Chattanooga began in the Americas. See, if you dropped tomorrow, they'd be like, oh, the Battle of Chattanooga happened, right? You know, like, they would come up with something. The mere point what I'm trying to say is that I do think Kendrick is really smart. But, like, these days, I think he also realizes that fans are weirdos. So no matter when you drop, they're going to just give meaning to whatever you're talking about. And I don't think that he tried to drop on the, assassination of John F. Kennedy to make fun of Drake.

John F. Kennedy was a American president, not a Canadian. John F. Kennedy was a beloved figure that was killed by a weirdo. How would that have any type of, any type of, like, relation to Drake? You get what I'm saying? But if you Google it here, look, Kendrick Kennedy. There's some weirdos trying to make that. you get on the saying Kendrick lamar

John F. Kennedy dropped on 1122 why would anyone still try to pick a fight with the Pulitzer Prize winning haters beyond me come on look at these people

right like they're trying to make it a thing I see it over here on some other shit whatever um cool project I don't know what else is said

all right right what was I going to get at Do you think this was a diss at Wayne, though? Since I used to bump Carter 3, I held my roly chain crowd. Irony, I think my hard work I let Lou Wayne down. Got the Super Bowl and Nas the only one congratulate me. All these niggas agitated.

I'm just glad it's on their faces. So he said only Nas congratulated him. I don't think people got your number, Kendrick. I'm going to be honest. It's not even that deep. I think a lot of people are proud of you. They spoke highly of you in the media. I think most people talk down at Wayne to say Wayne,

why the fuck did you think you would get it? But this seems like a dig at Wayne. So he's definitely not bringing out Wayne for the Super Bowl, right? So I used to bump card of three. I held my roly chain proud. Irony, I think my hard work let little Wayne down. And that's almost like a play on the whole Jay Cole saying he let Nas down. except he's being sarcastic here.

He's like, my hard work let Wayne down. Basically saying, yo, nigga, I got put on this shit for my hard work. And that's made Lil Wayne feel a little bit of a letdown because he wasn't picked for the Super Bowl performance. But it's because of my hard work. Fans are so funny. He says, Kendrick gave Wayne his best song in Mona Lisa, and this is how Wayne repays him.

What? Crazy. But with the exception of his youngest daughter, who is two-year-old baby love, who is probably with her mom over in California, I would assume, but just don't want to speculate there. But of course, when everything, when there wasn't a decision made, everyone was kind of ushered and rushed out into the courtroom. So I didn't get that last glance of maybe a last bone kiss to his family or to his mother or anything like that.

But at the same time, you know, excuse me. pretty much what we can expect from Sean Combs. Let me ask you this, Elizabeth, and there was a great recap of what, you're our eyes and ears. We don't have cameras in that courtroom. Unfortunately, we're not going to have cameras in that courtroom. So you are our best eyes and ears about what is happening there. I broke down the legal arguments and what was said between the prosecution and the defense and Judge Suburbanian.

From Judge Suburmanian, though, his demeanor, the way he was asking these questions to the prosecution, Did it seem to you like he was skeptical of the prosecution's arguments? Did it seem like he was pushing them a little bit more? The reason we're asking is, does he seem open to Sean Combs getting bail? I know he's reserved judgment, but there's one thing to report on what he was said. There's another thing. You got a glimpse of the way he was asking the questions. What's your take on that?

I think it kind of stems back to, you know, with this case, you really have to dot your eyes and cross your teas. I think he was asking both sides. Very important questions when he was specifically talking to the government. I think he was trying to also make it clear, you know, it did feel like he was open to it to answer your question. It did feel that way. I was actually kind of surprised by that aspect as well too because, you know, going in and I shouldn't have made that assumption in the first place, I was like, no way could this ever happen. But at the end of these arguments, I'm like, maybe it's possible that this could actually happen. I think it was kind of interesting with that moment.

where, you know, Mark Agnifalo mentioned his home in Miami and Judge Submarani and was like, okay, absolutely not. And then they suggested that apartment on the Upper East Side. But as far as the government's kind of arguments that they were making, it seemed like the judge really just kind of wanted to press to make sure that they were crossing all their T's and dotting all of their eyes. And I kind of have to give him credit a little bit here because I think sometimes in the court cases that we do cover, we see that a judge can side with one particular aside. as opposed to the other. But I feel like for both sides,

he was kind of playing it fair on both ends, kind of making sure that he was telling, or excuse me, that both sides were explaining everything that he needed to know before he makes his final decision next week. And we will see what that decision will be. Elizabeth Milner, thank you so much for going in there. Thank you so much for reporting to us. And I know it's a rainy cold day in New York,

so really appreciate you taking the time. Elizabeth Milner, everybody. Thank you so much. Okay, okay, okay, perfect. So, yeah, we'll kind of keep going back and forth to that a little bit, same with obviously some of the Kendrick stuff here. I did see this and I wanted to address it. Did y'all see this?

It says, WAC 100 has an alleged, he has possession of two hours of footage that shows Gunna in the interrogation room purportedly given information about the WISL case. Here we go. Gunna, hey Gunna, listen. I'm putting it together. I'm going to give you some time. I don't know, 24 hours, 12 hours, 5 hours, 6 hours, one hour.

I don't know. I'm going to give some time, no, Gunner. For you to go ahead on and confess, confess to the world about all the telling you did. You know that interrogation? Yeah. Guess who? Got it. You were sitting there talking more than her in Cane Katrina.

The only thing he did wrong was let him record him. You know what I'm talking about. Two hours. Interrogation Role. A gunner, they gotta, listen. I'm putting it together. I'm gonna give you some time. I don't know, 24 hours, 12 hours.

Five. All right, my bad, I got some, I got some. some issues upstairs. Give me one second, chat. I'll cover that topic when I get back. All right. Before I let everybody go, I have a special announcement for you. I mentioned it before. We're going to mention again. If you are looking for a deep A long ago, hope everybody can work on everybody.

My bet, I was going to put that on, but look how he just fucking ended. Oh. My bet, I got the police upstairs. All right. Let me play this. Hopefully it takes nine minutes. But I've got a police upstairs. I got to go deal with it.

I'm Jesse Weber. Thank you so much for joining us and also for being so patient with us as we came back. So as we, for the past two hours, we have been covering for you in real time about what has been happening in that federal courtroom. It was the issue of bail, now being heard by Judge Arun-subramanian. This is the first time this judge has heard this issue after Sean Combs has been denied bail on two separate occasions. And it seems, based on the arguments put forward by the defense and also put by the prosecution, that he may be. be open to bail for Sean Combs. Now clearly as he said this wouldn't be a situation where he would be at home confinement in Miami but it would have to be in New York. The defense talking about how strict these conditions would be even said they're more stringent than what you see at the MDC, the Metropolitan Detention Center where Sean Combs is currently housed. You heard objections from the prosecution saying that he had been reaching out to witnesses and victims that he engaging in instruction, that he is a violent individual, that he is a danger to society. The judge heard both arguments and said he will make a decision early next week.

The question becomes, will Sean Combs be home for Thanksgiving? That could be a realistic possibility here. And he also said that he wants letters from both sides on Monday about what Sean Combs is allowed to communicate and what he is not allowed to communicate with. Because the big issue was, is he allowed to present social media posts about his family, his life? There was a back and forth about whether or not he can talk about, reverse the narrative for himself, or whether or not that is trying to improperly influence a potential jury pool. So you heard a lot of back and forth.

Big theme was whether or not he should be allowed out, considering Mike Jeffries, the former CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch, who was also charged with sex trafficking and arrested recently. he was let out on a $10 million bail package. Sean Combs was proposing a $50 million bail package, private 24-7 security. At least three security guard members would be watching him. No internet use, no phone use, limited to his conversations with his attorneys, only a limited amount of visitors. So the judge is taking all of this under advisement,

which seems to be a wise decision, and by all accounts, we'll have a decision about Sean Combs' bail next week. Now, I want to bring in Elizabeth Milner from law and crime, or very own. She was in that courtroom for the hearing. She's outside of that federal courthouse right now. Elizabeth, good to see you. What did you see? What were your observations inside there?

Yeah, Jesse, a lot of interest in today's hearing for sure, especially with the whole debate on whether or not Sean Didy Combs could actually go home or at least be at home in time for Thanksgiving. I will say that I arrived to the courthouse around like 1215 today. Not a lot of people out. So I thought we actually came here a lot early. So when I went inside the courthouse, I was actually surprised. to see the amount of reporters that were already in line waiting for to go inside that hearing.

Now, I got inside the courthouse probably about 45 minutes before the hearing started, and probably at least 15 other journalists and lawyers were ahead of me in the line. So I was actually very lucky to get a seat today. Now, they actually moved the courtroom to a different location than it was on Tuesday's hearing. Again, that was an emergency hearing. But for this scheduled hearing that's been on the calendar for about a few weeks now, they had it actually at the top floor, so a lot more people were able to get inside that courtroom. And let me tell you, a lot of people were inside that courtroom in that hearing.

Even members of the public as well, too, I feel like I saw some teenagers kind of wanting to know as well, too, what was going on inside that hearing. Because I think they also probably wanted to get a glimpse of Didia as well, too. But let me just kind of paint a picture to our viewers about what you kind of see when you walk inside that federal courtroom. So, of course, when you first walk in, you're going to see the gallery. You're going to have a left-hand side or right-hand side. The left-hand side is for left-hand side, excuse me, is for some of the defense attorneys, as well as members of Colonses family, other public interest. And on the other side, it's going to be some extra attorneys from the government side,

as well as all of the reporters. And we were really kind of body-to-body inside that courtroom. Then when you kind of go outside of the gallery, then you have the defense table, then you have the prosecution's table, and then you have the judge, obviously, on the bench. So it's a little different from how when we normally cover trials, you know, you have the defense on one side, you have the prosecution on another side. So a lot of us in the reporter side, we were kind of anxious to see if Diddy's kids were going to be at the hearing today. And they did. They arrived. They were in unison. They all came in holding hands together, too. And Sean Combs' mother, Janice was also in that courtroom too.

But another person who I found particularly interesting to be inside that courtroom was Lawanda Lane. Now, she is the best friend of Kim Porter, and as we have been reporting on, she has been taking care of Sean Combs's twin daughters, Delilah and Jesse. While Combs has been locked up inside that federal detention center. But whenever they came in, it was kind of different from when all of the family had come in during that October hearing and that it went silent. That wasn't necessarily the case. A lot of people were kind of whispering and talking a little bit back and forth and inside the gallery. Then they all came in. Again, they were all holding hands.

They all sat down beside each other. And then, of course, court proceeded and everything like that. I was expecting some moments of like maybe some tearing up because remember, and I'm sure you've already told our viewers this, when they were kind of discussing one, the freak-offs, the assault video that was released by CNN earlier this year, as well as just some of Diddy's conduct or alleged conduct, I should say, you know, I can imagine just being 17 years old. I'm specifically talking about Jesse and Delilah Combs because they are still underage here, that it can be hard to listen to your father's, alleged conduct and just hearing just kind of the inner details of what all is going on. Obviously, it's been making the news everywhere.

It's not really a secret. But at the same time, to be inside a courtroom for two hours and kind of listening to your father's conduct, I can imagine to be hard. But from my side and from what I saw, I didn't see much of an emotion, emotional reaction or anything like that as far as it coming from Diddy's children. And so they pretty much kind of stayed forward, kind of kept their eyes on what the judge was saying, what the defense was saying, obviously what the government, was saying when they were making their arguments. So I didn't see any type of actual emotion

whenever they were making their arguments. But again, I can only imagine what may have been going on in their head as well, too. But it's also significant that they were in the courtroom because, as I mentioned on Tuesday, they weren't here on Tuesday. And it was probably likely because it was an emergency hearing. I'm sure flying all the way out from Los Angeles or possibly Miami can be a lot to do in the matter of just getting 24 or 12 hour notice. And so, you know, it wasn't very surprising that they were all inside the courtroom. But again, it's significant, too, because the government alleges that they are all doing this as kind of like a PR stunt and kind of in a way to sway the jury into making them seem like a unified family. I mean, we've seen this before in

trials. And I want to kind of make a clear distinction on the comparison I'm about to make here. I mean, we've seen this before in trials. And I'm talking specifically about the Alec Murdoch trial, where, you know, Alec Murdoch's family came inside that courtroom as well, too. So it wasn't very surprising that he had his family there to kind of back him up. But I will say just like on Tuesday, whenever Diddy did come into the courtroom and how he beamed and how he looked at every single person in the gallery. It wasn't like that this time. So when he came inside, it was still in that khaki jumpsuit. He, again, looks kind of grayish a little bit like that, a little thin. But at the same time, you know, being in jail or a federal detention center for the past two months, obviously that's going to kind of wear and tear on anybody, including somebody like Sean Diddy Combs. But as soon as he came inside that courtroom today, he beamed up immediately looking straight at his family.

And that was pretty much the only people he kept eye contact with outside of his attorneys. So he looked immediately at his family. He blew kisses to them all, kind of like a little like, I love you, mouthing of the words type of thing. And even before the judge got on the bench, he turned to them once again, too, to kind of just mouth a little like, you know, like it felt like he was just happy to see them, I should say. And then, of course, when he sat before he sat at the defense table, he hugged every single one. of his attorneys. But again, like I said, Tuesday, you know, Diddy knows that a lot of eyes are on him at this time. So there's not going to be a moment where we don't see what we expect to see of Sean Diddy Combs, if that makes sense. We're going to see somebody who's not going to appear

defeated. We're going to see somebody who is going to appear with smiles. So that way, I think he's also kind of signaling to the world that he's okay in a way, but at the same time maybe reassuring his family, especially his daughters, who, again, the twins, Jesse and DeLire are just 17. Chance just turned 18, but with the exception of his youngest daughter, who is two-year-old baby love, who is probably with her mom over in California, I would assume, but just don't want to speculate there. But of course, when everything, when there wasn't a decision made, everyone was kind of ushered and rushed out into the courtroom.

So I didn't get that last glance of maybe a last bone kiss to his family or to his mother or anything like that. But at the same time, you know, excuse me, that's pretty much what we can expect from Sean Combs. Let me ask you this, Elizabeth, and there was a great recap of what, you're our eyes and ears. We don't have cameras in that courtroom. Unfortunately, we're not going to have cameras in that courtroom, so you are our best eyes and ears about what is happening there. I broke down the legal arguments and what was said between the prosecution and the defense and Judge Subramanian. From Judge Suburbanian, though, his demeanor, the way he was asking

these questions to the prosecution, did it seem to you like he was skeptical of the prosecution's arguments? Do you see, did it seem like he was pushing them a little bit more? The reason we're asking is, does he seem open to Sean Combs getting bail? I know he's reserved judgment, but there's one thing to report on what he was said. There's another thing. You got a, you got a glimpse of the way he was asking the questions. What's your take on that? I think it kind of stems back to, you know, with this case, you really have to dot your eyes and cross your T's. I think he was asking both sides. Very important questions. And he was specifically talking to the government.

I think he was trying to also make it clear, you know, it did feel like he was open to it to answer your question. It did feel that way. I was actually kind of surprised by that aspect as well, too, because, you know, going in, and I shouldn't have made that assumption in the first place. I was like, no way could this ever happen. But at the end of these arguments, I'm like, maybe it's possible that this could actually happen. I think it was kind of interesting that moment where, you know, Mark Agnifalo mentioned his home in Miami and Judge Submarini. Like, okay, absolutely not.

And then they suggested that. Yo, chat, I ain't going to lie. I'm going to cut the stream. I ain't going to hold you. Just try to deal with this issue upstairs. I got the police all about that stuff. So I'll be back on tomorrow. Not tomorrow.

I'll be back on like, I'll be back on like tonight, tonight. I promise you tonight. I'll be back on tonight, all right? I just don't want, because I don't know if the police are going to be walking down here. I want to try to be seeing all the type of shit. Feel me? But the police in my house. So, yeah, I'm good.

I ain't in trouble in nothing like that. Come on, man. You know, I love the cops, nigga, the fuck. I love the police. Yeah, I'll be back on tonight. Give me a few hours. I've got to make sure everything's cleared out, but I don't want to be on stream

because the last time I was on stream, I was let it play. People mischaracterized out what that was. I let the police walk down here while I'm on stream. They know I'm on stream, by the. If I let that happen, they're going to be like, yo, they came to get that.

Yeah, I, nigga. All right, nigh, nigh. All right, chat. be back. I'm gonna, I guarantee you, I'm making sure I get back on tonight. Okay. So please, just have some patience with me and I'm sorry I had to cut a stream a little bit short, all right?