DJ Akademiks Live Streams - Diddy Trial Day 31: Closing Arguments .. Prosecution Ready for Jury Verdict! Diddy on Eggshells 3/30

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Welcome people Welcome I actually forgot the court started at 8 today. So I actually thought it was an afternoon team. But they started at 8 today. We're well into closing arguments. I told you how it goes. We go, the government goes first, then the defense.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Then there is usually a response if they want, but it's usually timed. And that's usually how it goes. So it's like one, one, one, right? So we'll see how it goes. we are here. This is the final week of the ditty trial. It appears that we're coming down to the wire. In my anticipation, I believe we will get a verdict before July 4th. I think if there's over three days of deliberation, I've been thinking about this. I can't tell what that necessarily means. So let's put up a calendar real quick chat. I'll put up a calendar for y'all.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Let's see. Let's go to calendar. calendar 2025. Oh my God. Can't even find a clean calendar. What the hell? Here we go. All right. So let's go down on this thing.
Starting point is 00:01:40 All right. It's now, what is it? Today is June 26th, which is a Thursday. Court's going to happen tomorrow. Shit, I can't even get my pointer on.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Okay. Oh, fuck. So it's a 20th. 26 today, tomorrow's at 27, there's going to be court, they're supposed to finish up all closing arguments. The judge really is on time. I got to give, I got to give some credit to Judge Sumerania. He is very keen to scheduling. We also know that, remember, Diddy was trying to push the child back a month.
Starting point is 00:02:15 They told Diddy Fuck No. And partially that was because Cassie was going to give birth and she's the main witness. However, he's been really on time and he's really been on them to say, how long you're going to take to do your case, how many people, we're not going to have a shit show where you just keep going forever on some YSL trial shit.
Starting point is 00:02:34 So it looks like, so today's the 26th, the government is doing their closing now, then the defense will do their closing and it will be a rebuttal. Tomorrow, jury instructions will be given. I think because of how the judge is punctual, even if he has to hold court later than five,
Starting point is 00:02:54 he'll probably make sure he gives jury instructions and I think they'll be able to deliberate at least for an hour he's going to give them an hour going to go in the back if y'all vote one thing cool but usually the way how jury deliberations go there's usually you know foreman there's a lot of explanations and then you know they'll do a preliminary vote then they'll do a lot of arguing okay
Starting point is 00:03:15 it's very rare that they all go in the back and they'll vote yes to the same shit on every charge right it's five charges okay so I think they're going to start deliberating at the end of tomorrow. So then we're going to come back on Monday. That's the 30th. I think they're going to take the entire day of the 30th. Now, it's very possible that we get a verdict on the 30th, right?
Starting point is 00:03:37 Very possible. But we should probably expect it to go at least another day, which would be the first. Okay? If it doesn't happen on the first, I think it got to happen on the second. Okay. So now, if it doesn't happen on the second, what happened is Thursday that week, July 3rd, there's no court. July 4th is obviously Independence Day in the United States. Shout to my people who's watching from non-state side.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Then we have Saturday and Sunday, and then they would come back to 7th. I believe the jury is a little bit, you know, exhausted. Like you can imagine, most jurors could be in a case like this or just, you know, hearing the same stories. consistently, I think they'll deliver a verdict on the third or the second. And I wouldn't be surprised if we even hear it on the first. Okay? So we're either getting it on the second or the first. I think it's 50-50 if we get it on the Monday, which would be the, what day is that?
Starting point is 00:04:44 The 30th. Okay. So just to let you guys know where we're at and we are in the final, final, final day. I want to give all you guys credit, everybody who's been tuning in via kick, via Rumble, via YouTube, of course. Thank you guys for trusting me with being able to give you the necessary and valuable information, give you the layman's terms breakdown of as much as I know. I don't know everything, but I try to. And also give you my reasoning and, you know, deducing certain things and try to, you know, work this out, you know, mentally in a common sense manner.
Starting point is 00:05:24 And of course, trust me with entertaining you guys, oh, I do that. So I appreciate all you guys for tuning in. Okay. All further ado, we're going to hop into court immediately because we've kind of missed a morning session. And the AUSA is all the way going in doing their closing. Okay? Now, let me just play this real quick.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And then we're going to get into it. Intercity Press. It's midday, Thursday, June 26. I actually don't know. So that was a midday one. Let me find the earlier one. Here we go. Okay, here we are. Matthew Russell Lee, inner city press, here at the Southern District of New York Courthouse.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Today, Thursday, June 26th, day 31 of the Sean Diddy Combs trial and its closing arguments, at least for the government. As it turned out yesterday, the defense arguments will be on Friday, and the jury will get the case Monday. We'll see whether they can rule by the July 4th holiday. But yesterday there was turmoil. After we did this, many people seem to be. to not misunderstand. It was, I blame the prosecutors, actually. The way that they wrote their letter about the charge,
Starting point is 00:06:31 before the charging conference, they said we are not pursuing the theories of liability of attempted kidnapping under New York and California law, attempted arson under California law, that's the Kid Cuddy Car, the New York kidnapping is Capricorn Park, of course, and aiding and abetting sex trafficking. So this was not dropping charges,
Starting point is 00:06:52 but some people, particularly those who are, some are saying free ditty, so they were like, did he's being getting free. I mean, I'm not putting, you know, again, the government should have explained it better. I think that they spent some sort of behind the scenes attempts to sort of explain to people, but they should have just written a better, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:07:09 maybe they hadn't realized how it would be perceived. But I'll say that we didn't try to spin it one way or another. We just quoted exactly what I said. We are not pursuing those theories of liability. Of course, these are just predicates to the RICO charge. And as the almost non-ending, charge conference yesterday. It went until 7.30 p.m. So that's what we also didn't cover. So the charging conference went on for a long time.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And that's what I'm saying is go back, it goes back to this idea that this judge really wants to make sure shit's happening on time. And I don't lie. I don't know if you've seen the judge showed up to court. Homie shows up to court like he's about to play basketball, you know? So the judge, I would imagine him too. He want to be done with this shit for his July 4th as well. I really think that they're kind of sending us up to say, yo, bro. Now, here's the thing. Before we, I know he's explaining some of the stuff before, we are going to get into the idea of will the jury be sequestered at a point?
Starting point is 00:08:04 Now, when they sequestered a jury, they don't go home. Okay? They basically are, they have to stay in quarters until they get a verdict. Or until the judge is satisfied with a lack of a uniform verdict, and you will say this will be a mistrial. Okay, that'll be a hung jury and I guess you'll declare a mistrap. Those are bridges we'll cross later, but currently it seems like the judge is on schedule and unless the jurors are just like literally not able to give a consensus to these five charges,
Starting point is 00:08:46 within a reasonable time, I don't see them being sequestered, or unless we hear more information about maybe people trying to get to, to the jurors trying to influence them. I don't see them being sequestered, but that's the come. Made clear, RICO is alive. They're going for RICO. There's five counts. And so that's that. Now, before we get in, because today it's going to start at 10 o'clock, 10 a.m.
Starting point is 00:09:12 begins the opening arguments, apparently by AUSA Slavic. Mark Agnifalo won the right to wait until Friday to start. Whether that's cutting it too close to the holiday, we'll just have to see. Judge Sub-Romanian seemed satisfied that the defense was sort of waiving its rights to, I guess, not deliberate on July 3rd. I'm not sure what they're waiving, really. But what we can say is other things are happening in the world. They really are. Yesterday at 1030, because it didn't start, as it turned out until 345, the charge conference, we went to cover U.S. versus Doquan, a major crypto.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Okay, good. So let's just hop right into it. and we essentially we'll get to I got to do a lot of reading here, chat. I am a little bit lit, but it is okay. Okay? This is the best part of the trial.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And by the way, I'm gonna tell you why this is the best part of the trial. Well, other than having Cassie or Jane Doe understand. This is the best part of the trial because it sums everything up, right? Like, we're getting so much information. Like, some of this stuff, like, what the fuck are we really getting, right?
Starting point is 00:10:14 Now we're gonna get some type of cohesive things. So, all right. Now, does everybody understand what happened with this this RICO thing they never dropped there's still five charges right one is RICO but there's a predicate act there's predicate acts under the RICO they're not charges it's called predicate acts or
Starting point is 00:10:34 predicate offenses all they say is we're not we're not still interested in seeking the liability for those predicate offenses so they so you know it's for people who hate Diti they're going to be like nothing was dropped which is technically true. And for people who loved it to be like, yo, they drop the charges. That's not technically true as well. But did they drop certain things that they're pursuing? Absolutely. Right. Like they said, we're not pursuing the idea or the liability for arson. Remember, RICO, it requires two predicate acts.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Arson could be one. Let me see what else they dropped. They also dropped the aiding and abetting of sex trafficking. That could be one, which obviously if you're aiding and embedded, you're probably guilty of sex trafficking too, but whatever. But as long as the jury believes there's two predicate offenses
Starting point is 00:11:35 that Dibis is guilty of under the RICO statute, they would have to vote guilty for RICO. Now, granted, the reason why they put like, you know, there's 35 predicate, possible predicate offenses under federal law, the reason they accused
Starting point is 00:11:52 Diddy of like seven or eight, the reason why they put so much is here's a thing. If they think that you, you in a criminal end prize broke, did seven predicate offenses, they're going to give you life. Like, you're definitely getting life, right? So they reduced like the eight that they were, the seven or eight they were accused, the seven or eight they were accusing Didi of to like now it's like narrow down to three or four. Now, the way they put it in the letter like, oh, no, we're just trying to not confuse the jurors. Okay, that's true too.
Starting point is 00:12:21 That's what I'm saying like this is a horrible part about media because a lot of times no matter who it depends on who you tune into You'll get whatever you get like I seen like the fucking flunk you over there at the breakfast club running today Saying yo everybody has it wrong charges weren't dropped. No it's the same shit. No it's not the same shit Right. It's not about necessarily the charges because there's two different things it's a predicate offenses So now Diddy has half of the the alleged Rico act that he is going to be having the answer for. So imagine that somebody said you have eight chances to go to jail, right? They just got to pick two or eight.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Now they narrowed it down to say, oh, you only have four chances to go to jail. I think four chances sounds better than eight when they need two in all cases. If they need two of eight, they have a quarter or 25% chance of convicted you. if they need two of four they have well okay i fucked that up sorry um if they need two of four they have to well the probability is less even though is they have to get half of the charges convicted right as opposed to um they need half of the charges convicted now or half of the predicate offenses proven as opposed to before they needed a quarter so the government chance of proving the RICO against Diddy is just significantly less.
Starting point is 00:13:48 That's the facts, right? But there's no way to, like, do it to say that to people who don't follow the case in a perfect headline. So a lot of people ran with the headlines saying the charges were dropped. Ah, okay. But the people who are going to report on it fairly, they're going to explain what I'm explained to you. And you're going to get the people who hate Diddy or they're just women who just want
Starting point is 00:14:10 all they get to go to jail. They're going to be like, no, everybody's reporting lies. You know what I mean? I'll go to my man Bradford Cohen who kind of he explains it's like in a minute here we go here's my guy. Diddy very very interesting stuff going on in my opinion on this case the government has dropped several
Starting point is 00:14:28 of the allegations for the RICO count and things of that nature of the arson which they had zero proof of I can't even believe they allowed testimony on the arson absolutely no proof. Bingo so you got to imagine they charge a guy with a RICO remember they're already charged him with sex trafficking of two people Jane Doe Daphne, Daphne, Joy, and Cassie.
Starting point is 00:14:51 They gave him a Rico. They gave him a Rico, no co-conspirators. They gave him a Rico the person you claim was helping him. She's not charged. She's nowhere to be found. Christina Karam. What the fuck? How did you give his thing of Rico for that?
Starting point is 00:15:05 Secondly, you gave him a RICO claiming he blew up cars. Bro, don't you think these are the reasons Diddy never got bail? Again, I'm not preaching for Diddy, but I'm just preaching. towards the facts of the case okay like I hope y'all could kind of realize like I mean I could tell sometimes when you know these bids be lying type shit which I think some of this is these bids to be lying but they used to be beating bishops too so it's a lot going on here I'm trying to call it fair the point is this they didn't need to hit him with a rico but they gave him the riko and that's probably one of the main reasons he never got bail he blew up cars he's probably
Starting point is 00:15:43 witnesses. He's kidnapping people. These are all the things that are now saying, ah, we don't really care about him blowing up cars no more because we don't even think we proved that. What? Do you get what I'm saying? So the idea that everybody's like, no, nothing changed. No, something definitely changed. Right? Like, the government basically admitted that half of their RICO case was bullshit. Oh, he had his bodyguards, bring a chick to a warehouse. And she, She was kidnapped.
Starting point is 00:16:15 She had to answer questions under lie detector. We don't care about that anymore. Huh? Y'all don't care about it no more? Y'all quizzed her about it. Oh, Cassie got beat up so bad. Her face was swollen. He put her in the London Hotel.
Starting point is 00:16:30 That was kidnapping because she couldn't leave. Cassie testified to that too. But they, at the end, when they're going to the jury, they're like, ah, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. What? What do you mean? worry about it. So it's like the government is admitting some of the shit they don't
Starting point is 00:16:47 feel like they're fully proof. Anyway, proof of the arson and the 9-11 that was burnt down to the ground or whatever was happened to that car and the kidnapping. Again, the lack of evidence, the lack of proof, the lack of organization that they actually put these things into a
Starting point is 00:17:05 into an indictment, use that indictment to keep him and hold him, make these allegations so that he shouldn't have bond, make all these allegations so he shouldn't have bond. This should have been a case where he should have been granted bond. He was ready to self-surrender. It was kind of a joke on that side of it. And we're going to see how this all shakes out. See what the jury does. They dismissed one of the jurors because they thought that he wasn't being truthful for where he lived. I thought that was an overkill. I thought they should have kept him on
Starting point is 00:17:35 the jury, especially because he was African American. And I think that's what the prosecution wanted to do is get rid of them. But we're going to be. We're going to see where this all shakes out. I don't think this is a clean sweep. I think the RICO case is a stretch, the sex trafficking. I think they could walk him on if they really thought about it. I think he's a John that has a violence problem. I think he needs anger management.
Starting point is 00:17:56 He's not a good guy. And this is going to be the closing. He's not a good guy. But is it the things that he was doing criminal or were these things that individuals wanted to do on their own volition, get paid $10,000 to show up and have sex with Cassie? Again, I'm going with, I think Diddy doesn't walk clean sweep. I think he get convicted of two of five charges, the prostitution charges. I don't think he gets convicted of sex trafficking. And if I'm wrong, it's three, and he's going to be fucked if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I think at max, it won't be a clean sweep. At max, it's going to be three or five. And I think it will be sex trafficking only of Cassie. Daphne Joy is a whole Like come on respectfully Like you know you know You know come on bro Like she was fucking for the cash
Starting point is 00:18:45 You get what I'm saying So it's like I think that I think everybody looked at Daphne Joy shit to be like Yo yo you're tweaking You just wanted your like You said you signed a love contract
Starting point is 00:18:55 The fuck thing is like what are you talking about How did you get sex trafficking This idea that Oh no I was so used to luxury That I had to fuck these people And I've seen somebody in the chat It's in the academy chat And by the way, if I respond to somebody in the chat, even if they said something negative, don't ban them or nothing like that.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Please, you know, we're doing conversation here. They said, Act, no, you kind of been like a pro-ditty guy. No, I'm not a pro-ditty guy. Like, I'm a pro-fax guy. The idea that these women, for me, are enjoying all this lifestyle, right? Yes, they're, of course, getting beaten up. I'm not saying none of these things are cool. But I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:19:34 When I heard these charges, I expected more things that would coincide more like with even R. Kelly. Like, and I get it, R. Kelly had minors that was involved in his federal case as opposed to his, well, yeah, two federal cases, one in Chicago, one in the Eastern District of New York. But the thing here is that I'm seeing a lot of, and I'm just being honest, right? And you're going to hear some of my opinions come out now, you know, even though I'm trying to stay neutral all the time when I'm reading stuff. brother you like when it comes to like um ditty in his situations i'm gonna be honest with you i'm getting a lot of buyers remorse i'm getting a lot of hey i wasted 10 years of my life with you you never gave me a baby you never put a ring on my finger you had other girls i was down to ignore that i was down to fuck other guys for you i was down to suck dick in front of you i was doing things to make you happy whatever
Starting point is 00:20:27 you're into i wanted to do because i thought i was going to be your bitch for life and when i realized that i was never going to be that person in your life. I eventually had to move on and hurt. And of course, I lose out on everything. And now I'm, I feel like, I'm kind of scorned. I wasted my 20s with you. I gave you the best parts of my life. And you gave me nothing. Like, yes, you gave me gifts in a moment. But overall, all I have is a bunch of memories that are kind of up and down, but it's kind of more sour grapes than not because I didn't end up with you. Right. So all the beatings, they're now more pronounced, right? All the times that you did me wrong, quote unquote, it's, more pronounced because I felt that I got fucked over.
Starting point is 00:21:07 That's what I'm getting. I'm not getting, I'm like this victim of sex trafficking that all through it out was straight up sex trafficking. I'm getting, hey, I was trying to make you happy, trying to be your girl, your queen, you're whatever. I understand you're a little weird, you're bisexual or whatever. You like to watch other dudes fuck me, pause. So I'm going to do this, right?
Starting point is 00:21:34 I'm not getting straight of sex trafficking. That's just me. That's just me. Yo, somebody keep commenting about the L.A. hat with the Orlando jersey. Nicky, it matched today. Just let me live. You get what I'm saying? So, bro, that's all I'm seeing.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And again, y'all can tell me, yo, I know you're being biased. And the reason why I'm calling it that way is because I know a scorn bitch, bro. I know a scorn chick. Bro, like you had plans of kids and family and being this queen and this guy's life. the guy's a playboy like you thought he was gonna grow out of it oh oh i only did this but i thought he would want to stop what nigger ever wants to stop doing some freaky shit i keep saying women never go down in lifestyle and men never go down in sexuality the first time did he had you out doing freakoffs he was never gonna be like i'm over it now no he was just gonna have you do it more
Starting point is 00:22:24 sometimes these girls are getting with the nigger thinking you know that's what daphne joy said oh i thought it was like a one-time thing you thought wrong the nigger loves to do that That's his thing. Did you love doing it? Probably not. But you felt it was the way to separate yourself from all the other bitches. Then you only, like she even admitted it. Shorty admitted it.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I only, I started feeling away because he's treating the other bitches who ain't doing this better than me. They're going on trips. Why are they on yachts? Why they're doing this? Why are they in Turks? Why am I in Turks? I'm fucking these dudes. That's buyers remorse.
Starting point is 00:23:02 That's not saying that you don't want to do it. You're jealous of other women. and you're jealous of his other situations. Daphne's Joy, I throw out the window. Bullshit. Now, do I think she gives a compelling argument for basically what prostitution is? Yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I think he gave her a lot of money a lot of times that she took, including a love contract that could be seen as this is a contract for sex. I'm flying you around for sex. Got you. And I think the same with Cassie. But sex trafficking, I'm not believing that.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And then this RICO, which is they threw so many predicate offenses at first, you're like, oh, wow, this guy is like, you know, the guy sound like the Joker. You know, he burned down the town. He held people against your will. Forced labor. He bribed people.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Kidnap people. You're like, oh, my God. This guy's a monster. You get to realize. And what everybody has been saying, and again, I know we're not in the courtroom. So, like, I'm entitled to also be wrong. Everybody's saying from the beginning, where's the fucking Rico?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Where is the racketeering influence corrupt organizations? That's what Rico means. That's the act that is the top line charge that would put him away for life. We went into this thinking, yo, did he blows trial and doesn't take a plea? He's going to jail for life. You kidnap people. You blew up cars. You forced them to work.
Starting point is 00:24:36 you sex traffic people bro, you're going to jail for life now we're looking at like okay so the RICO is not that strong and again so I throw Daphne's joy out of there oh sorry when it comes to
Starting point is 00:24:54 Cassie I could see the Cassie thing I can see a jury possibly saying that she was sex trafficked would I say she's sex trafficked and this is where the people that say if I'm pro ditty this is where my thing is um my thing with with the cassie thing is you love this guy things didn't work out
Starting point is 00:25:28 you feel salty that you wasted your time your energy your life like what do you want i just don't get where a toxic relationship and and this is what i really believe if we believe that cassie again you see the freaks doy shit is always going to jump off the page so going to make it seem like we're agreeing with freakazoid shit, right? Like, no regular nigga wants another man to fuck his bitch. No regular nigga wants multiple men to fuck his bitch in front of him while he jerks off. No guy wants that, right? However, however, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:26:14 We all know, and we are in the era. White, I'm going to hit you back in a little bit white. We all know a lot of people who are in toxic relationships. Right? toxic relationships happens to sometimes be abusive they verbally abuse each other all the time they both cheat on each other like it's really like it's toxic right in those situations we could be like yo y'all are both abusers right like y'all are both probably guilty of maybe some domestic violence obviously some manipulation some stalking all of that shit but nobody ever like
Starting point is 00:26:56 Like at this point, we're going to have to think any toxic relationship is sex trafficking. But here's the thing. It's only on the man's part. Because now they introduce this thing when it comes to sex trafficking that it's about the power dynamic. Not that he forced her is power and money that's the coercion. Here's the thing. Name me a chick. Name me a bad chick or any chick that dates a dude broker than them.
Starting point is 00:27:24 So there's always going to be a dynamic. So basically every toxic relationship between a man and a woman is basically sex trafficking. Why? Because a woman is going to date a guy with usually significant more resources than her, right? She's going to date a richer dude, right? So now you always have the excuse that this woman relies on this guy for A, B, or C, or this guy has a power or money control over her. So the woman's is always the victim. Now, they're both in a toxic relationship. They're both cheating, right?
Starting point is 00:27:53 she's cheating on Diddy Like I think we forgot Cassie cheated on Diddy with an NBA player NFL player Michael B Jordan Like she cheated on a thing with mad people Kid Cuddy She fucked mad people Right
Starting point is 00:28:05 Obviously Diddy was crashing out when he found out She was fucking mad people Including the trainer But bro didn't she crash Didn't she Um But wasn't she crashing out when he was Fucking other girls too
Starting point is 00:28:19 This is toxic to me Y'all are both doing what y'all do y'all are crashing out is toxic what part of this is like forced sex trafficking like what part so again i understand the thing with the thing with cassie because she was so young when he met her and you know when people start thinking about it like you know oh well maybe you know i get it that she was obviously for a lot of money and you know my idea would be sure like for example jane oh you're 34 like You stayed for the 10 bands a month. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Like, you know what the fuck you were doing, right? But for Cassie, be like, well, you kind of got bred into this life. It's almost like what they call a grooming, right? They're like, well, you didn't know any better. So you couldn't really leave. Like, you had Stockholm syndrome. Like, you were getting abused, but like you were just stuck in place and you just had to endure it for 11 years. Maybe a jury actually sees that, right?
Starting point is 00:29:15 Jane, though, throw her out the window. So really, I'm looking at prostitution charges. Did he definitely paid for prostitutes? He clearly was, right? I see two, two out of five, max three out of five. Now, if he gets three out of five convicted, he's going away for 15 or 20.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Because those sex trafficking charges carry 20. The two, and I've said this before, he's only going to go away for five to ten. She was arranging most of the engagements, even without Diddy there? I actually was able to speak with one of the, I guess prostitutes in this case
Starting point is 00:29:59 where he called my office to discuss some things he's got a new book coming out and I'll follow up with what he had to say everything that's not attorney client privilege okay
Starting point is 00:30:10 all right let's talk Diddy very very interesting stuff going All right alright okay so yeah you know so if you want to know what my thoughts are on that it's like hey listen I'm not like a pro Diddy guy
Starting point is 00:30:21 like I'm not gonna allow to you most installation shit here I was like Diddy is pretty disgusting you know i mean like this he's like a little freak gay dude you know um call him by whatever i'm like rubbing semen on your nipples that's gay uh but not because i'm not into some of the things he's into means that you know he's whatever whatever let's see if we can figure okay so the beginning nine 37 today chat it's time it's time for um um somebody said cassie's a hoe well here's the thing Here's the thing with the sex trafficking thing, right?
Starting point is 00:30:57 And this is why if I was a juror, I'm throwing it out for Jane Doe. But if I was a juror, I would probably listen to Cassie's story a little bit more because it tugs at your heartstrings as a person, especially she's up there, she's pregnant, she's crying, she's sobbing. Cassie describes that she didn't even know how to suck dick. and Diddy taught her. Like Diddy basically was like coached her how to give head. And you kind of get this idea that I see someone said,
Starting point is 00:31:35 no, she's just a hoe. Like you're not going to come with the, you got to be some sick deranged person and say, if you met a girl that didn't even know how to suck dick right and you coached her how to suck dick, oh, she was just a natural hoe. No, no, no, no. You're going to start feeling like,
Starting point is 00:31:50 oh, maybe some of the activities that you, were doing, influenced her to be sexually perverse as she was. I think that's fair. Now, is it sex trafficking? I don't know. I don't know if that's necessarily sex trafficking. But just to say she's like this natural whore that just fucks whatever, whatever, whatever. Now, of course, over time, I think she just kind of realized the key to keeping her man and
Starting point is 00:32:14 key to seeing him more and spending time with him and the key to keep whatever gifts and whatever she like coming in and the luxuries that she, you know, she like coming in and the luxuries that she, enjoyed in life was of course to fuck and she began wanting to fuck more and more and use it almost like a tool and i guess that's where also the sex trafficking thing comes in like both of these women at times would offer freakoffs they would say hey i'm going to surprise you with this daphne joy said we're going to have a all-star freak off you ever heard that chat a fucking all-star freak off like this is yo yo you know we got the skills challenge we got the rookie game We got the dunk contest, the three-point con, here's the bit.
Starting point is 00:32:53 This is crazy. But that's where, you know, as dudes, and if you wonder, where I think about this, I'm like, I'm kind of looking at this from a man perspective, a man that's not doing anything illegal, and that's the majority of us, but we're men, are women allowed to have zero accountability when they want, right? it's like yes cool I give it to y'all
Starting point is 00:33:26 she was young Diddy kind of got her into some freak of leak shit but she clearly was within her own mind and was able to say you know what I don't like some of this stuff I don't want to do this
Starting point is 00:33:39 so here's the thing how much do we think that she's just fucking retarded and she can't say to Diddy or she can't say to herself I'm leaving this I don't like this this doesn't make me feel good the day after. It doesn't make me feel good when I got sores on my tongue.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Doesn't mean me feel good when I have to fuck these guys raw and I catch UTIs and maybe whatever venero disease is she probably have got. At what point do we say she lacks zero accountability? Because Diddy is just like he's controlling her mind. Like she's just completely brainwashed. And I only believe that happens with women. I don't think if a man said the majority of these things,
Starting point is 00:34:19 We would even bat an eye at it. Nigger, what? We were reading the Tyler Perry shit. We're like, wait, so a nigga woke up, you woke up and a nigga was spooning you with a hard dick, and you did nothing? Really, nigga? Really?
Starting point is 00:34:34 But when it comes to women, we do, and again, I understand, you know, men and women are different. But where does accountability stand? Accountability is, you know, it's one thing if it's like, okay, When I'm thinking about some force or coercion, I'm like, all right. You know, and yes, by the way, I do give, I concede certain shit. Yo, he was threatening her.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Like, yo, if you leave, like, I'm going to leak some tapes. I'm going to do this. Give me my money back. Whatever, whatever. But are we saying Cassie was just completely helpless? Like, just powerless. Just could not walk away. I thought that one message that when her friend was trying to convince her to leave Diddy
Starting point is 00:35:22 And she literally said well if I leave him who am I gonna date Jay Z already got a woman at that point You're you're only thinking that your match is a mogul Is that not choice in itself? Is that not choice like you're making a choice to stay because you refuse to date anybody that's that's not on his level or above? And you're looking around and say the only other guy who I could date within the shit would be Jay-Z and he already got a woman. So it's like you've processed these thoughts of leaving. And why you didn't leave wasn't solely because you were getting your ass whipped or you was going to leave videos.
Starting point is 00:36:04 You were just like, well, who am I going to be with other than him? So that feels like choice. I don't know. Feels like choice. Whatever. All right. I'm done, Rand. Let's get back to reading tweets.
Starting point is 00:36:18 So they begin. It's a good morning. We've emailed the charges to the parties. It's not a doc yet. So they've finalized this entire charging sheet where the jury is going to look at and vote. Okay. So there are still some government.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Sometimes government is capitalized. We were going to change that. And there's an instruction about a witness, right? There should be no disruptions during closing. The judge says all the jurors all tell the jurors that will be, I'll tell the jurors it will be a shorter day today and a longer day tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Then there will be deliberations will be up to them. Slavic will be here at 10 to deliver the closing. Shapiro says there's some italics we want out. So again, Shapiro doing her job as a, she's the defense appellate lawyer,
Starting point is 00:37:08 but what happens usually with appellate, lawyers is that they get a case after they couldn't do anything about it. So they'll read through the case of transcript. But like, damn, it would have helped me if you had objected here or blah blah blah there. So they have her in there to get all, raise all of these issues, all of these issues before we even get to a verdict. God forbid for Diddy. He's guilty. They at least have 3,000 reasons they could possibly get an appeal.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Okay. So they break till 10. The jury is going to come in at 10, and they're going to do closing in 10. So now it's 1002. I said, do we have a laptop ready? So I have defer to Ms. Garagos. He says, we'll have it ready for tomorrow. The judge says, okay, with only a minute exhibits then, relax.
Starting point is 00:37:59 So let's get our jury. The jurors enter and they say, judge says, give your attention to the parties closing arguments. Today will be shorter is the U.S. closes. Tomorrow, the defense and the rebuttal and my instructions, and then you're going to begin delivering. The jurors will stay. Slavic says over the last few weeks, so this is now closing, okay, people? Over the last few weeks, you've learned that Sean Combs is a leader of a criminal organization. He doesn't take no for an answer.
Starting point is 00:38:25 He's into kidnapping arson, forced labor, bribery of a security officer, and the brutal crimes of sex trafficking. I want you to consider two moments. March 2016 at the Intercontinental Hotel, the defendant got violent with Cassie. You saw what happened. He dragged her back to the free call. 2024 at Jane's House, the defendant choked and even him. hit her. She ran, but she couldn't get away. There are chapters in the same book. The defendant counted on silence and shame. He thought that his
Starting point is 00:38:49 fame and wealth and power could put him above the law. Over the seven weeks, you've heard how he uses staff to promote his power. No one could stop him. We talked about RICO, including sex trafficking and transportation for prostitution, which are also separately charged in stand-alone crimes. You've heard of racketeers. When someone commits a crime as part of a group, they're more dangerous. A group of a group of people are more dangerous. A group of people are of people whose purpose was to serve and protect the defendant is his kingdom. Everyone was there to serve him, fulfilling all his desires, including his sexual desires as well. We need to show at least two racketeering crimes, those are predicate offenses, for him to be guilty.
Starting point is 00:39:28 The defendant was the head of Combs' Enterprise. There was an inner circle, his chief of staff, his bodyguards. The names are changed, but the roles remain the same. You've heard about K.K. Kohn's right hand, his right brain, She lived in Two Star Island Oh wow, I didn't know that So KK live with Diddy Oh shit
Starting point is 00:39:47 She communicated with the defending girlfriends His security You heard the names Dirok Bonds Rube Uncle Pauli Fa or Fahim They were armed and ready Remember the incident at the diner with Shug Night
Starting point is 00:40:02 David James told you Should get guns By the way I definitely think Didi's They better address this on their closing arguments. Why are you making it seem like
Starting point is 00:40:15 Did he had an army when he didn't Y'all haven't mentioned that he killed no one, shot no one, and no one beat up no one on his behalf. Only people who were hurt were girlfriends that Diddy beat up? So why are y'all saying, oh, they were armed? They had guns. What the fuck? Anyway.
Starting point is 00:40:37 In the search, law enforcement found guns, including a rifle with a serial number. defaced in LA two AR 15s with his serial numbers cut out in the defendant's closet. You have the rotating cast of assistance paid by the defendant's business. Brennan Paul said he made $100,000 a year. KK. K.K. made six times that. Wow. KK. was making $600,000?
Starting point is 00:41:02 Holy. This is why I love clothes. They give you all the juicy shit. When your boss asks you to buy drugs, you're committing a crime. But when you kidnap someone or locked his girlfriend in the hotel room after your boss, stomped on his face. It's a crime as well. The law doesn't require you to know that they liked committing these crimes. You saw KK. Hiding the defendant to not be so reckless,
Starting point is 00:41:27 but she got him cash. She got him drugs. She was a member of the enterprise. It impacted interstate commerce. Minimal is fine. But Combs knowingly became a member, okay? He was the boss, El Chapo. He was the through line.
Starting point is 00:41:43 The Racketeering Act, distribution of drugs, kidnapping arson bribery, facilitating the sex trafficking of Cassie and Jane, forced labor, traveling for commercial sex and a cover-up. Yeah, yeah. Those are, by the way, those are all the predicate acts, right? Remember, they said they weren't seeking, kidnapping, arson, and facilitating sex trafficking anymore. But, you know, says you only need to find that someone would commit two of these acts in any of these categories. It could be two acts of drug distribution. One kidnapping. Maybe it could be two kidnappings.
Starting point is 00:42:19 You have far more than two. Let's start with the drugs. An essential ingredient of the freakoffs. Chat, ingredient of the freakoffs is crazy. Okay, like, yo, what type of... It's like they got recipes to the fucking freakups, right? Anyway. The most involved were DRock, KK and Fahim,
Starting point is 00:42:39 but others helped keep the drug supply high. We're not talking about. marijuana. We're talking about what Brendan Paul called hard drugs. The stipulations of the drugs were found in the searches. Cocaine, meth, oxy, ketamine,
Starting point is 00:42:56 a disassociative drug, a GHB, mushrooms, Molly, Toosey, a combination dyed pink. It's 1305 and 1306 in the Zibbitt. These quantities doesn't matter, okay? It's not an element of the crime.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Distribution doesn't require a sale. Ooh, that's, that's interesting. That's interesting. Distribution doesn't require a sale. Basically saying, as long as it was enough for Diddy to hand out to people, that's drug distribution. You know the names of drugs, you know what the names are the drugs by now. Guido, one stop.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Or the drug dealers by now. Guido, one stop, baby girl. Jane told you that on two occasions she was told to bring drugs when she flew to meet them. She coordinated with KK. is corroborated by text messages. KK told Jane the swing bottom maple, didn't pick up Guido package. He was called during hotel nights,
Starting point is 00:43:52 so we know what Guido's package was, more ecstasy. The security team knew what it was. Guido texted for him. Puff has a 450 balance with me. Brendan Paul asked for $780 for a personal Gucci items. That's hard drugs. Drugs were distributed. It doesn't matter if he wasn't buying kilos of coger selling them.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Personal users just a distraction. They bought and distributed to people around him. Cassie used drugs at every freak off. Who wasn't supplied by? Did he? He introduced Jane Doe, Daphne Joy, to drugs. He put her on drugs. He gave them to her at all but one hotel night.
Starting point is 00:44:37 He gave drugs to Kerry, to Banna. He made Brandon Paul. tried the two see to see if it was good. DRock would text one stop the drug dealer and say, yo, I need to see someone for bro. Bro is the defendant.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Did he? Guido asked for him to cover the defendant's drug debt. KKK knew he was distributing drugs to the woman for the Wild King Nights. Come on now. Jane told KK, she was having a bad come down. KK. give pro tips
Starting point is 00:45:11 This bitch was given pro tips on how to deal with it. Plain and simple, this is goddamn drug distribution. How about kidnappings? They committed them under both California and New York law. Come on, consider Cassie. Bond, Roger Bond made her stay put. The defendant called Cassie a slut. He stomped on her face.
Starting point is 00:45:34 She was disfigured. Roger Bond called her and brought her back. The defendant made her go to the London Hotel on sunset. No one, so no one saw her. She wanted to go home to her mom, but no, she couldn't. It's clear Cassie didn't consent to stay in the London Hotel. David James testified that the defendant demanded to see his search history. If he had posted that the defendant assaulted Cassie in the club,
Starting point is 00:45:58 then there's Capricorn Clark. They made her take a lie detector test for days in a empty office building in Manhattan. This was in 2004, people. She was holding expensive jewelry that went missing. Uncle Pauli took her to the future headquarters of Bad Boy. She was tested for five lies.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Hold on, Channel Me, I got to tweet this out. This is a good shit. I got to tweet out. This is a lot, my bad. Here we go. This is some good shit. Hold on. By the way, this is the closing.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Okay, right. All right. The man administered and a test told her if she fails, she'll end up in the East River. In Central Park, the defendant told her if anything had happened, he'd have to kill her. David James remembers this. He was tested too to get the racked out of the team.
Starting point is 00:47:18 In December 2011, Rube helped the defendant kidnap Capricorn Clark. It started on December 22nd, 2011. The defendant banged on Capricorn's Clark with a gun. He was out for revenge. He barked in order of Capricorn. Get dressed. We're going to go kill Kid Cuddy.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Wow. Oh, let me get some. They drove to Kit Cuddy's house. The defendant had a gun in his lap. This is kidnapping. He moved her to a substantial distance without a consent. The defendant said he wouldn't let her told until she brought him Cassie, who he kicked when she arrived in the fetal position.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Cassie, who was with Kit Cuddy that morning, testified to this. The officer who responded to the 911 call. called said he saw a black escalade registered to bad boy. Then on January 12, 2012, the defendant had Kid Cuddy Car set on fire. Now, by the way, which is arson, your chat. Here's the thing. In a closing argument, they could editorialize. They could editorialize.
Starting point is 00:48:28 They could give their story of what they believe they proved, even though they're, they actually give up on these points, but they're still in their narrative, right? Someone cut a hole in the roof of Kid Cutty's car and dropped a Molotov cocktail in it. We're not suggesting the defendant cut the hole. He didn't even buy his own soup. You heard the voice notes. He said he was going to blow up Kid Cutty's car. What are the odds?
Starting point is 00:48:56 He says it. Then it happens. The coincidences just keep coming, right? The defendant of the roof just happened to be there a few weeks before. Kid Cuddy was driving the same Porsche the night of the trespass. What's the mother's? fucking odds. Kikuddy had conflicts with no one else but the defendant, right? Then D-Roc brought Kit Kuddy to the defendant, who was looking like a Marvel superhero. Years later, the defendant
Starting point is 00:49:27 apologizes to Kit Kuddy. Then there's bribery, 2016 video. Defendant was having a freak off of Cassie. One of the escorts, Jules. Flores found the defendant sitting in the chair with what he called the devil's stare in the room. You saw another man. The defendant tried to hand Flores a stack of money. It was his first attempt at a bribe that day. As Cassie left, Combs started damage control. Judge says, we have power issues. Your mic working, so it looked like there's something going on the court.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Say, hello. You hear? Okay, you can hear. Yes, he called Cassie over a dozen time. Then he texts, call me. The cops are here. He was manipulating her. But the defendant knew he could be arrested.
Starting point is 00:50:08 There was video of the assault. He went on and banged on Cassie's door with a hammer. The neighbors were going to call the police. They did, in fact, go. So, Kerry Morgan had an LAPD car because she did report it. KK suggests that they had a fun drunk night. She calls and reaches out to Eddie Garcia. Eddie says no.
Starting point is 00:50:24 KK. Shows up in person. He won't show her, but says off the record is bad. KK. KK. says the defendant needs to call Eddie on his personal cell phone. Once Eddie says his boss will do her for 50,000, the defendant calls him, Eddie, my angel. That's how he's saved in his phone. Eddie goes to deliver the USB.
Starting point is 00:50:41 D. Rock and KK are there. The defendant counted out dollar by dollar the bribe. Eddie told you the security guard told him he came up with the defendant. That was D. Rock. Eddie asked the defendant, what if Cassie calls the police? So the defendant knew if Eddie finds the ID off the standing for Flores. NDAs are signed, don't speak to anyone. For those who are asking, so this is a sidebar, well, Matthew else is a sidebar.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Sean Combs has his chair pushed all the way back from the defense table and he's looking around. So I guess Diddy's observing the courtroom like he's trying to see facial expressions. That's what I'd be thinking. Slavic says, pain for silence is influencing testimony. In their opening, the defense suggested it was all about bad publicity. Police involvement wouldn't hurt him. It's a police involvement will hurt him. These two are connected.
Starting point is 00:51:46 The next racketeering predicate is sex trafficking. The defendant inner circle assisted whether they wanted to or not threats, drugs, lies, and illegal violence to make them have sex with escorts. This is not an attempt to criminalize dysfunctional relationships. By the way, that's what I'm saying. Is this an attempt to criminalize toxic relationships, right? Let's hear their explanation. Or personal sexual behavior, freakoffs. They did not want to have sex with strangers
Starting point is 00:52:14 While the defendant masturbated They were covered in oil And soar over and over and over again We're not asking you to find That every hotel night or a freakoff With sex trafficking or even the majority You only need to find the elements Were met one time
Starting point is 00:52:31 One freak off That's it He's motherfucking guilty But it was way more than once Let's start with Jane I turn the screens off Did he still in this chair? Push back from the defense table at which is Xavier Donaldson and Shapiro have their chins in her hands.
Starting point is 00:52:50 So they're like, Slavic says, consider this sobriety part. And in Jane's house. Let's start with the love bombings stage. Jane was head over hills. They traveled to the Caribbean. Dr. Hughes talked about this. She never met with any of the witnesses. But it was like she knew them.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Love bombing is a tactic. He was grooming her. He gave Jane ecstasy. fell to the ground because she was convulsing. The defendant like baby old and red lights then introduced in May 2021. She wanted to please her partner. She was high. The defendant had a freakoff set up that very night and an escort came.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Jane was excited by that first experience. She didn't realize she had opened Pandora's box. It became 90% of the relationship. For a while, she went along. Then she told him she wanted to stop. There are texts about this. Here are the text. Jane wrote, I wanted to do things outside these rooms to travel with you.
Starting point is 00:53:48 The defendant ignores Jane's discomfort. Those hotel nights were not about what Jane wanted. They were about what the defendant wanted to see. He decided how long. Jane said if she was going to have sex with strange men, she should choose who? The defendant made her ask them for new photos. Those weren't for her.
Starting point is 00:54:08 When she asked to use condoms, the defendant was not happy. he was dismissive, condescended. She would try to have it go by faster. He would order her, slow it down. It was about what he wanted. He dangled carrots. He gave gifts and money.
Starting point is 00:54:24 He lied to her repeatedly. She asked, when are we going to do a getaway? He said, we're going to go on a yacht, but they didn't. Here's what Jane wrote in her notes at. I don't want to have you use me to fulfill your freaky wild desires. in hotel rooms. He used payment as payment of her rent as leverage.
Starting point is 00:54:47 The carrot turned into a stick. Pause. She wrote, The threats in innuendo are nonstop. He paid for her veneers because she didn't like her teeth. Then said, look at the roof over your head.
Starting point is 00:54:59 You don't like that? And your pretty mouth, yo teeth. I did that. He wanted a all-star freak golf party. Sex with three men. She sent him photo of her period blood
Starting point is 00:55:11 just to get out of that freak off. He sent this one voice note. They're playing the voice note. I'm about to really disaping on you. I don't got time for that, baby girl. You got me on my job. You got to get on your job. AUSA says, you know, the message couldn't be clearer.
Starting point is 00:55:27 He's not going to take no for an answer. After reading Cassie's lawsuit, Jane wrote the defendant and said, I feel like I'm reading my own sexual trauma. Two of my birthdays, you forced me. You gaslit me with sexual exploitation. You framed as love for your sick fetishes. The defendant called her and tried to trick her into saying it was all consented to.
Starting point is 00:55:55 He fed her a false narrative. Listen to the clip. He talked over her. Dr. Hughes told you how victim is trauma bonded to her abuser. Jane often felt that the defendant didn't listen to the truth. She said Sean would just say to move on. He told her to charge her to charge her. him that lawyers would be involved to buy her silence.
Starting point is 00:56:19 So she asked for $100,000 a year for her to move on. She thought it was reasonable. It's far less than Cassie. The defendant went ballistics. She refused to adopt his false narrative. You could read the next text message. Jane wrote that the defendant was going to show her sex tapes to the father of her child, 50 cents. Then he reached out and told her to come see him in Miami.
Starting point is 00:56:46 She makes it clear he doesn't want a hotel night. He says, okay, despite this promise, he still called an escort. Here's more threats about the rent. Jane wrote, Jane wrote, I hate worrying about rent. This is 2024. It all culminated in June, 2024. He assaulted her and forced her to perform fallacious on an escort. This is sex trafficking, people.
Starting point is 00:57:12 it was interstate and the astroglide kept going across state lines the defendant knew were recklessly disregarded the force the threats of force the coercion and the fraud that were used consented once does not mean she consented every time one time is enough
Starting point is 00:57:33 he lied look he's texting Paul author and escort look at these messages look check it out he's setting up a hotel night when she's in the air. He told her no hotel nights, right? He tells her he has a surprise for her, but she did not want to do anything with sex work.
Starting point is 00:57:53 That, before the plane even lands, is a completed act of sex trafficking. He tricked her. Then under coercion, she calls Cabral to come to New York. In the next text, she says, in New York City, I knew you would peer me up with a random person. In the sobriety party, without drugs, She's so disgusted.
Starting point is 00:58:14 She vomits. She writes, I'm not a porn star. I'm not an animal. They need a fucking break. The defendant writes, let's spend the day together, no stranger. She replies, You're just going to love bomb me.
Starting point is 00:58:28 He switches from carrot to the stick. Then to the house. He texts, are you going to let me into our house? Eight times. Then he said he was sick and he needed her. She went and had sex with three different men. without drugs. After vomit, he said, get back out there. 2024 in Jane's House, three months after Homeland Security search to defend his home,
Starting point is 00:58:54 they used Jane's house again. He came there. They were supposed to have a fun date night. They drank. They argued. He pushed his head in the counter. He shouted at her. She told him to leave. She ran and closed the doors. He kicked out, not one, not two, but three doors. You saw the doors? Here's one of them. Check it out. She ran without shoes. hid he was waiting she hit the defendant he punched her in the face here are the photos he dragged her by the hair back into the house jane took his phone and called the other woman she shouted the defendant called jonathan perez he followed her into the shower hit her knock her down he made anton or called anton the escort and told her to have sex with him she put on makeup to hide her injuries she drove to
Starting point is 00:59:44 pick up Anton from the gate. Then the defendant said, take this fucking pill. He put his face inches from her and asked, is this coercion bitch? He was brazenly acknowledging. He was breaking the very same law.
Starting point is 01:00:00 He violated before. Jane did not want to have sex with the escort that night. She said no. But this monster wouldn't take no for an answer. Jane performed oral sex until Anton nutted in her mouth. The defendant
Starting point is 01:00:16 told the security to bring the cash to Anton. They didn't have it. The next day, he gave Jane the money to pay Anton. She ubered a bag of money over to him. That's not coercion. The Justice of Mislavik, I think this would be an appropriate time's break for lunch. It would be a perfect time. It's a jurors you may go eat. Holy. Holy. Ruger Red, thank you for the outgifted
Starting point is 01:00:40 memberships. Let me play, ooh, getting lit chat. Let me play Lauren Conlin real quick And I'm going to eat up my little A little chick for labor Oh shit U.S. versus Sean Combs Day 30.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yeah, this is it. Day 30, we are on closing arguments. Now, this video is not going to be super detailed because we have to get back in the courtroom right on time. I mean, no one's even allowed to go to the bathroom during closing arguments. So I
Starting point is 01:01:17 just want to make sure I'm not late so I get back in. But I'll give you just a couple details so far. It's been a pretty busy day. You know, in the gallery, there's some notable attorneys. Karen Agnifalo is there. She represents Luigi Mangione. She's married to Mark. Doug Wigder is there, who represents Cassie Ventura. And Ditty's daughters are back. They're very sweet-looking. I, you know, I saw one of them in the bathroom and I didn't lock the door to the bathroom stall and she opened it. I felt really bad for her. I wasn't peeing. I was just adjusting myself. But yeah, she was really sweet. And yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:50 Misa Hilton is here, who I believe is Justin's mother and I think another one of his children's mother is here as well, possibly Sarah Chapman. But, um, yeah. Wow. All ditty's baby moms are popping out. It is make a break time, chat. Yes. So the judge greeted the jury. Thank them,
Starting point is 01:02:11 you know, for listening to seven weeks of testimony and just said, yes. So, well, Oh, thank you. Who says? You're, great job reading those tweets, man. You've been amazing throughout all this. Keeping us tuned in. Thank you. Thank you for that. I try to read
Starting point is 01:02:27 it with a little bit of charisma for y'all, you know. Have a shorter day today. The government's going to give their closing arguments. And then tomorrow the defense is going to go. And then the government will present a very short rebuttal after that. And then they'll get their jury charges, which, by the way, I had stated,
Starting point is 01:02:45 it's 118 pages of charges. So or roughly and they had both the government and the defense had 200 objections that they had to go through during the charge conference yesterday, which which took a long time. But okay, so really quickly, just a couple things. And I'm going to go, I'm going to go over the entire closing in detail later. So don't worry. But the first thing that Slavic said was, okay, over the last several weeks, you have learned a lot about Sean Combs. He is the leader of a criminal enterprise who doesn't take no for an answer. All right.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Give me a second. All right. Welcome back to our continued coverage of the Sean Combs criminal case in New York. I'm Jesse Weber. Thanks for jaded it. The question is a jury does not or does Huss? N. Keseith and Jesse. You're both great.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Jesse's handsome. Elizabeth's gorgeous. It was a full house today inside that courtroom. Literally. Okay, again. I'm going to heat up my food real quick. Body to body a lot of people inside that courtroom and especially over on the defense's side where you're seeing more of Diddy support system and family come to court today to really kind of
Starting point is 01:03:59 be here for the final days of the trial pretty much. Of course that being summations, aka closing arguments. So we saw everyone from Janice Combs, Diddy's mother, Charalucci, who's one of Diddy's very close friends, who's been inside that courtroom every single day of trial and even was attending some of those pre-trial hearings too. We saw Keisha Combs, that's Sean Combs's sister. Justin Combs, Sean Combs's son. Quincy was there. Again, that's also Sean Combs's son. Misa Hilton, who is the mother of Justin Combs, was there.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Sarah Chapman, who is Diddy's daughter, Chance's mother. And then, of course, the twins were there, that being Delilah Combs and Jesse Combs. And so it's interesting. The only one that notably was absent, from what I could see inside the main courtroom, was just Christian Combs. But everybody else, and I should
Starting point is 01:04:41 also say probably his youngest daughter, that being loved, she wasn't there inside the courtroom. But I think notably also, Also some interesting faces that are inside that courtroom today, too. Maybe not necessarily on Sean Combs' side was Doug Wigder, who we all know to be Cassandra Ventura Fines' attorney, as well as Jay Clayton, and that's the acting U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. So a lot of famous faces are inside that courtroom. A lot of people that were very familiar with as we've been following this case pretty closely.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Oh, and I think I forgot Karen Agnipelos inside that courtroom, too. So it's a lot of people there really trying to see what these summations are going to be, both on the prosecution side, and then once we get to the defense's closing tomorrow, obviously, for the defense's side, too. Since there are no cameras in that federal courtroom, there's no audio equipment in that courtroom, Elizabeth has been our eyes and our ears for the last several weeks. So we have this question from Merlin's spies. What is Diddy's reaction today?
Starting point is 01:05:33 Does he look worried? Yeah, so I was trying to get some peaks in between all the heads of the attorneys that were literally right in front of me inside the courtroom today. Because normally that row right in front of us in terms of the press is normally empty, today again, everybody's inside that court. So when I was getting peaks and glimpses over at the defenses table, I was trying to see what Sean Combs's demeanor was during these closing arguments, especially as they were talking about Rico, especially as they were talking about sex trafficking, both alleged victim one, that being Cassie, and alleged victim two, that being Jane. And so from
Starting point is 01:06:06 what I could see, especially at the start of the try, or excuse me, at the start of closing arguments today, I really kind of saw Sean Combs really just kind of stare a little bit into the distance from what I could see. He was kind of looking towards where the judge is on the bench. And obviously, there's no witness over there. So really, the prosecutor, that being Christy Slavic, was giving her summations over kind of towards the side right in front of the jury box with a microphone and a stand, kind of like the one that I have my notes on right now. And so I saw him kind of looking a little past her, again, kind of towards the judge's direction. Then I would look over, I'd see him kind of like getting glimpses over at Christy Slavik doing the summations and possibly at the
Starting point is 01:06:44 jury too. And then I saw him, you know, doing what he usually does too while he's at the defense table, which is jotting notes down, passing them off to Mark Agnifalo. So really, we got all these different kinds of movements from him. But in terms of just demeanor, I think he was just especially happy to have his family inside that court. We're making sure everybody who was on the list was able to get inside in order to support him. And so from that, that was probably the most reaction I've seen of him is just a big smile on his face whenever he saw his family. Elizabeth, we're reading the transcript of the closing arguments. We have no idea what the tone is like. We have no idea how she's Christy Slavic is actually delivering it. So we have a couple of questions here. Jack asks,
Starting point is 01:07:22 Elizabeth, how would you describe the overall tone of Christy Slavik's closing argument? Was it emotional, methodical, aggressive? John Doe III asks, what seemed to be the prosecution's most powerful moment in closing arguments so far? Yeah, well, it seems like it's very methodical. And you know, I know that this is a very high-profile trial. Obviously, it's a very high-profile defendant, that being Sean Combs. And so maybe people might think that they're expecting these very animated moments during the summations done by the government. But it seems like it's just really kind of very monotone, very just kind of very concise, I should say. But I will say this, Jesse, is that Christy Slavic, when she's giving these closing arguments, she really is just laying it out
Starting point is 01:08:07 as simple as possible. To the point, I'm actually understanding everything that's going. on. And I'm like, okay, this is really just kind of laid out perfectly for the jury. Now, could points have been kind of condensed a little bit and not as repetitive, possibly, maybe? But in terms of just the tone and her demeanor while giving these closing argument, it is very kind of similar to how the government's opening statement was. It was just very monotone. You can tell she's kind of reading off of the script that she had prepared. But I think it's interesting, too, because they put, you know, a PowerPoint presentation of just everything in terms of just all the assistance that the jury was able to see all the escort slash entertainers that the jury was able to see.
Starting point is 01:08:45 They were kind of bringing points from the transcript and relating it to certain points of maybe, you know, in some cases, the RICO conspiracy and arson and kidnapping, relating it to the testimony that was given by particular witnesses, including, you know, Kid Cuddy or Capricorn Clark, those types of folks. And then bringing it back to the text messages where they're highlighting how these certain text messages were really kind of point to instances of alleged sex trafficking in terms of Jane or in terms of Cassie and so that's really kind of the tone. You know what's also interesting? Marine Comey didn't do the closing.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I think she did the opening. I could be wrong though, but she didn't do the closing. In terms of the closing arguments that they have and from what I could see even of the jury, especially at the beginning, they're really kind of paying close attention. I think maybe towards the lunch time hour they were ready for lunch because it's a long time to be listening to just one person. But, you know, if I can binge watch a Netflix series for eight hours, I think the jurors are okay with a four-hour summation. Well, that is why the defense wanted Mark Agnifalo to go on Friday. They didn't want him to have to go after the jury's exhausted from prosecution's closing argument and having lunch.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Oh, now we've got to hear the defense. It affects the impact of that. So I completely understand it. Elizabeth, I know you have to get back into court. Great seeing you. Thank you so much. Great reporting. We even have Outcast 93 saying, Elizabeth, you've been doing a fantastic.
Starting point is 01:10:09 job since the beginning of this trial you really have. So thank you so much. Thank you. All right, we're going to continue the conversation now with. And then she went on to say the brutal crimes at the heart of this case is sex trafficking. And then we saw a still of Cassie. And the still of Cassie was obviously the intercontinental hotel video. And it was like they paused it or freeze framed it right on on a part where Diddy was. dragging her on the ground by her hood or her hair it is let's see what uncle's talking about because I don't uncle in live too down here you're not sensing testimony that is untrue right that it's already been shattered right now
Starting point is 01:11:09 for like right now they got three overflows they got three overflows but to somebody like me that that's a McLaren that's a McClaren's that somebody that's been here every day for six weeks I'm not impressed and neither is the jury the jury got to be looking at her like yo we already heard this man hurry up get out of the way now to all the new people that are here that are here for the first time, you know, they are impacted by what they're hearing because they're here for the first time. But this closing argument by Christy Slavic, in my opinion, is a fail. Puffy is constantly writing notes, passing them to Mark Agnifalo. Mark Agnifalo is, come on, come on by, man.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Did they go on break? They're on break? Mark Agnifalo is constantly writing notes. Tenny Garragos and Marble. Puffy is writing notes, passing something to Mark Agnifalo. He's listening. Pupp just got his head down like this. And then when the assistant U.S. attorney say something that's been proven a lot,
Starting point is 01:12:50 puffing through this. But he's engaged. He's passing notes to Agniflo. But it's just, oh man. You know, I at least, see, presentation. Presentation is everything. At least I thought that the assistant U.S. attorney would be demonstrative with a hands with the eye contact, body language.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Didn't I tell you? Didn't we say? Yes, Buffy did this. Yes, Buffy did that. You know, too, because when you're demonstrative, people look at that, right? You influence. You can influence.
Starting point is 01:13:46 This girl is up there like this. The bird flew and landed on the fence. When the bird landed on the fence, it went down and ain't a worm. Remember, let me show you text, man. Don't read to me, man, don't read to me, man. Yo, yo, yo, trash, trash, trash. Now, what's interesting, what's interesting and why Puffy is in bad shape.
Starting point is 01:14:27 It's because there's probably 150 people to 200 people in all four courtrooms. And we're all hearing the same thing. But you come out of the courtroom and you talk to somebody that's in the courtroom with you and they will tell you that the prosecution is doing a great job. and it's bad for puck. What's crazy is that out of the 12 jurors, I think that they're seeing this the way that I'm seeing it, but that very well may not be the case.
Starting point is 01:15:17 They may be seeing it a whole other way, and that's crazy, man. This man's life is in the hands of 12 people that can't understand the magnitude of his lifestyle, the magnitude of his money, the assistant U.S. attorney, all she talks about is his abuse of power. He was a wealthy man. He abused his power because she can't understand that kind of money. I can't understand that kind of money. You can't understand that kind of money. You can't understand that kind of money. You know, the enterprise, Puffy is the boss of an enterprise,
Starting point is 01:16:10 and KK and DROC and all these people, like they knowingly, they knowingly knew they were setting up a racketeering enterprise, man, great, great. Take your time, I don't take your time. As far as I'm concerned, broad unit. Magnifilum is something with a little more punch, a little more flavor.
Starting point is 01:16:45 This girl, there's no flavor. There's no punch. There's no, there's no, there's no nothing. And you're trying to get the jury to reconsider lies and perjury. You're trying to get the jury. to reconsider testimony we heard where Cassie and Jane Doe were complicit, willing. We heard it. We heard it. It's crazy, man. Crazy, man. I think that's Puffy and them family right there. That's the whole family.
Starting point is 01:17:47 All the family members are here. They're all getting on there now. The daughters are here. The daughters are here. Mother's here. They're all here. I see them all the time. Always wish them well. Nothing, man. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. The prosecution's closing arguments is a trash can. It's dumpster. The dipsy dumpster. Unbelievable. I got so turned off when I saw her reading. I had my notebook out. I have my pen out. Come on through. You coming through? Come on through. Come on through. My notebook out. I have my pen out.
Starting point is 01:18:51 And when the first thing she said, the first things out of her mouth, the sister U.S. attorney, Christy Slavin, she said, she put a picture of Puffy up on the screen, and she said, Puffy is a... criminal and he runs a criminal enterprise I put my notebook down I put my notebook down and then she began to read to me off of which means which means I don't know maybe maybe this is how they do it but with the notes that I took check me out check me out oh let check me check
Starting point is 01:19:44 Check me out with the notes. Check me out. Check me out. Check me out. Huh? With the notes. With the notes that I took, I could go in that courtroom right now and off the top of my dome. Why you kick my bottle of water? Huh? Don't kick my bottle of water.
Starting point is 01:20:18 I could go, hold on. That lady came by and kicked my bottle of water. Hold on. I know this case. I know this case. I know this case. Cold. I know this case. I'm going to disagree with Unk there.
Starting point is 01:20:34 I think even Diddy's defense team is going to use notes. You want to be concise. The jury has spent seven weeks. They don't want you ranting and repeating yourself. And you want to hit every point. It's your last chance to give a very concise, even though I know, as granted, these things are going for hours,
Starting point is 01:20:53 like these closing arguments, was to give a concise summary of the entire case. It's cold. All six weeks of the information that I've been in there. I got it in my dome. You can wake me up at 319 in the morning and say, Sean. What about that right there? What about that?
Starting point is 01:21:13 Who said this? One lawyer did the cross-examination. Me too. Me too. But again, I really think it's for brevity. It's for hitting all the points in a sequence order. That's why they have the notes. Now, granted, I think, I think, I think,
Starting point is 01:21:29 I think Sean G wants a little bit more charisma. They're AUSAs, they're white women. You know what I mean? Like, they're white women who are, you know, doing multiple cases. They're not going to come in with pizzazz. Like, they probably don't give a fuck that much, too, right? What U.S. attorney did to direct, I can tell you, I don't need no notes.
Starting point is 01:21:49 I don't need no notes. I would need, like, my little bullet points. Okay, yeah. And I think that's what Diddy's lawyers again. They're going to need bullet points, definitely. But I do believe that having a spirited, like some passion behind it, right? You want to have some passion behind. Like, yo, this is a wrongly convicted man.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Or, you know, the AUSAs, they could have been like, well, this guy's a criminal, right? But this, you're a U.S. attorney. You're an assistant U.S. attorney. And it's six of y'all. It's six of you. Alexander Shapiro already highlighted that, you're not. Never has she seen in the Southern District of New York. Not one case ever had more than five
Starting point is 01:22:33 Assistant U.S. attorneys. Puffy got six. They brought out six. And the best they could do on closing arguments is have the girl come here and do this. We submit this letter and further support of our requested edits. The court, come on, man.
Starting point is 01:22:57 That shit is weak, man. Weak. Weak. I was expecting her to be passionate. If you really feel Buffy is guilty the way you think, you don't need no notes. You just need a little white ball with your bullet points, and you check over there, bang, bang, bang. But you're talking to the jury.
Starting point is 01:23:26 You're making eye contact with the jury. You're moving around. You keep in their attention. That's right in. That's why I told you. I told you. All six in the U.S. attorneys, they like management trainees
Starting point is 01:23:43 compared to Alexander Shapiro, Jason Driscoll. When Jason Driscoll, one of Puffy's attorney, when he get up and object, when he opened his mouth, he know everything. Page number, case site year supreme court district second district seventh district and the judge and the u.s.
Starting point is 01:24:05 attorneys they don't even be ready they don't even be ready. Our planning prevents poor performance. Prime planning prevents poor performance. Here's down on this stage this is the Super Bowl the Puffy case is the Super Bowl you're supposed to shine the light says the right is you're supposed to get down for your crime she up there she up there reading she up there reading i thought you believed in your case if you believed in your case you would have studied your case you would have memorized your case you would know your case and all you would need is little bullet point and you would have practiced. You would have practiced your closing argument.
Starting point is 01:25:16 You'd have been ready. She ain't ready. She ain't ready. This is the Super Bowl. She's playing in high school. Everybody, give her the thumbs up. Double tap that screen. Give the thumbs up and hit that screen.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Come on, man, come on, though. Come on, though. I'm just telling you what it is, man. Love you, brother. We go live with my five months. Okay, okay. Let me know when you're ready. I'll move.
Starting point is 01:25:51 All right, baby. I love you, man. I love you too, bro. Do you understand? I don't know what to tell you, man. What's up, man? You good? I'm good.
Starting point is 01:26:01 All right. Cover all the stars. Your unk don't even eat, do you? Because they asked me nicely to move, so. Maybe it's my fault. I was expecting. More bang. I was expecting more punch from the prosecution.
Starting point is 01:26:19 This is it. This is it. What's up? Convinced me. Tell me what's up. I'm on the fence. Cut. All right, my man.
Starting point is 01:26:32 I got a move, y'all, because they, check them out, John. Check them out. My man, I'm being cool because they asked me nicely to move. So, you know, they asked me before I started, so everything cool. Check them out, y'all. Check them out. See, see, the prosecution, all they do is cut plea deals. That's why they're not good at trial.
Starting point is 01:27:00 This shows that this girl, this was above her, this was above her skill level to me, to me. You understand? Now, Uncle One Man Show out there. To me, if I'm on the fence, you supposed to, what's up, man, if I'm on the fence, you're supposed to convince me. By the time I'm done listening to you, you're supposed to sway me. You're supposed to sway me. Let me grab my stuff and get out my man's way. You know, because his white male stature, um, um,
Starting point is 01:27:54 could be imposing to the jury, right? Before that, he's a great lawyer. He's a seasoned trial lawyer. He's done trials. He's won trials. He's one acquittals for his clients. I've seen him under cross-examination, and he is very demonstrative.
Starting point is 01:28:21 He's entertaining. Monica Carter, what up? So I think Mark Agnifalo is going to do a good job. All right. Follow her on our YouTube. Okay, perfect. Back in court when the break ended. So they're back.
Starting point is 01:28:51 They came back at 125. So Slavic, you ready? She says, yes, I just have to flag. I just got something flag for court. We're going to need to change something, which is the PowerPoint. It's a clerk. Could you turn the screens on? They either couldn't turn it or whatever.
Starting point is 01:29:07 The jury comes in later on, and then they say, all rise. Slavic, you may proceed. She says, let's go back. Three nights. The three nights are part of a buildup, from fraud to coercion to finally force. Okay, there's a loud beep in the court. I said, I apologize. So do we need to change the batteries?
Starting point is 01:29:26 The deputy says, Ms. Slavic, do you need batteries? Double A. Combs is still sitting with his chair pushed back. Now his legs is crossed. Now his hands is crossed. So he's kind of like this. You know, you know, with his legs cross type of shit, right? Slavic says the house was just an example of the defendant's financial coercion of Jane.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Also drugs. Also drugs. They came as a part of a necessary part of sex. Jane told you about Miami in 2024. He gave her liquid Molly. They showed you the video. They'll argue she was super into it, but she was super, super high. his coercion included threats to release tapes of her having sex in hotel rooms
Starting point is 01:30:09 Combs threatened to send sex tapes to her child's father and this was to coerce her into more commercial sex acts The defense has suggested that Jane Doe agreed to these hotel nights Let's talk about what agreed actually means This there's an incomplete picture Let's turn to volume two We're going to talk about Cassie There's several examples
Starting point is 01:30:30 You know from sitting here through the trial that force was not limited to only these days. Through the decade they were together, he forced her to have sex with escorts. Cassie was 19. He was in his late 30s. He signed her to a 10 record deal, took on a yacht, gave her ecstasy. They had sex. They were in a relationship. She had just turned 21. The defendant was her boss, who called the shots. He molded her. He told Capric, well, let me show you. Then he ordered Cassie around. She did it, walk around, turn around, total compliance. He didn't take no for an answer. He was abusive, physical and emotional. emotional, psychological, and even sexual.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Then they want you to call this domestic violence, but he was forcing her to have freakoffs. He controlled everything. He demanded her nails be done a certain way on the red carpets. The Vanity Fair Party in 2014, Deonti Nash told you he shouted. He shouted that I told you to have her hair up. He wouldn't let her make money from her music.
Starting point is 01:31:26 She was offered the chance to do a common video puffs and no. He paid for a car, her clothing, phones, vacation. He made her deal. dependent. He did this to her family too. After he found out she was with Kid Cuddy, the man of 20,000 from the parents to pay him back or he'd release sex tapes. That month, in just this account, he had $3.2 million coming in and out. This was about control.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Remember what Dr. Hughes said? When a victim is unsure, is on the abuser footing, the abuser has control. He punched her, he kicked her, he dragged her. When it was bad, he hit her in hotel rooms, not to be seen. You saw photos and videos, DRock, rude, poorly. They all knew. He attacked her for attending a Prince party until Prince, security intervened. Mia and Mara Morales described the abuse of you.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Cassie told you, when she got to the house, he threatened to release the sex tapes. He assaulted her in Jamaica. He beat her up in Las Vegas when she was curled up under the toilet. She said DRock cried. There was an assault at the Intercontinental Home. hotel. It was called on tape. For Cassie, this was just normal. She was there when he attached Mia, Devante Nash, when he attacked Mia, Devante Nash, and even Banna. Banna may have gotten the date wrong, but she had injuries. One time, he had Cassie hold his guns for him. The diner and
Starting point is 01:32:57 Shugnight incident, Cassie was in the house. She saw. Why didn't she leave? Ms. Hughes explained things explained that Hitting leads to fear. Hold on. Even when Cassie was in South Africa. She couldn't get away. KKK kept calling. D. Rock was only loyal to the defendant. He played both sides.
Starting point is 01:33:23 He talked Cassie, then reported back to the defendant. Yo, she's about to ice up. I told her to chill out. They met for dinner in Malibu. Then he raped her on the living room floor. She said, no, she cried. But he may, but he didn't take no for an answer.
Starting point is 01:33:37 He raped her. He wrote, I couldn't tell I didn't, I didn't turn you on yesterday. That is he raped her. He said, because of the trauma bond after the rape, she met him at a friend's party and then had sex. That sex was consensual. This was a trauma bond. He had a modus operandi, hours long performance that he masturbated to and sometimes just filmed, just like with Jane. Sometimes the defendant told the escort to urinate on her.
Starting point is 01:34:11 Sometimes he urinated himself. Why? To turn himself on. She began becoming drug addicted. Here she wrote, I love our free cause when we both want it. Jurors, this isn't a all or nothing situation. There's times where she didn't want to do it. That is sex traffic and she obviously didn't want to have an escort urinate in her mouth
Starting point is 01:34:36 while she laid on the floor. Let's talk about the videos. Y'all seen the clips. You ain't seen no weapons? You see her having sex. Masturbating. The defendant's moving the camera around. At times, it focuses on the escort.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Not Cassie at all. It's clear. This was about his fantasy. Not about Cassie's. March 5th, 2016, and then into Continental Hotel, the video. Before the hotel, Cassie had a premiere.
Starting point is 01:35:06 It was a big night for her. She agreed to have a freakoff has damage control. Look at this. She says, I don't want you think and I don't want to. She knows the defendant won't take no for an answer.
Starting point is 01:35:20 The defendant gets jewels to come. You know what's going to happen. Oh, you know what happens. An argument. The defendant hits Cassie in the face. All she could think about is her premier. She takes off without her shoes. He throws her to the ground.
Starting point is 01:35:34 He kicks her, drags her back to the room where Jules is waiting. Why is this dragon relevant? Because Jules is there. The freakoffs have multiple sessions. They were in between sessions. He leaves her, but he takes her bag. But she doesn't follow him.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Instead, Cassie's using the phone in the elevator lobby. The defendant is making another conscious decision to go take the bags to the room and come back for Cassie when his hands are free. He grabs her phone. Then he makes a decision to stay. He stays even though he's in a towel. It looks ridiculous. After Flores arrives, he stalls in the hallway.
Starting point is 01:36:14 He knows Jules is still in the room, possibly naked. The defense claims he took drugs that day. But you can see. He's in control. Cassie just wanted to get her bag and her phone and leave. The defendant offered Flores money. There's a photo of Jane in the car back to her house with sunglasses, with the black eye.
Starting point is 01:36:37 He was using force to get Cassie to continue freakoffs. The defense may tell you that the violence wasn't connected to the sex, but come on. It was an attempt to get Cassie to continue the freak off. Later, she wrote to him, I'm not a rag doll. I'm someone's child. There were freakoffs in New York, even with Daniel Philip. Daniel Philip was not paid for his time. That's a ridiculous argument.
Starting point is 01:37:01 And one freak call between sessions, the defendant told Cassie to come in the bedroom, she kept using the computer. The defendant threw a bottle, dragged her and slapped her. Daniel Philip heard Combs yell, bitch, when I tell you to come here, you come here. After that, Daniel Phillips couldn't perform. But a completed act is not required for sex trafficking. But this is sex trafficking.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Think about cans. There was a film festival. The defendant accused Cassie of stealing his drugs. He threw her off the boat they were staying on. Mia heard audio of this. He recognized the voices. They flew back to New York. She traded seats to get away from him,
Starting point is 01:37:40 but he followed and showed her freakoff videos. He threatened to release the sex tapes. When they got to New York, they had a freak off. This is another example of clear-cut coercion. He threw off the boat without her passport. He wanted Cassie to be afraid to say no to him. Cassie said, I didn't know what no would mean. What no would turn into.
Starting point is 01:38:00 It could be violent. The defense said Cassie made a choice every day to stay with them. Step back. Think about this. Imagine yourself as Cassie. This was force. This was leverage.
Starting point is 01:38:11 There were drugs. Disassociative and numbing. She needed that buffer. Yes, some of the messages are explicit. Doesn't mean she wanted to have sex with the escorts at a freakoff. In 2009, he wrote, You're supposed to be seducing me all fucking day. Cassie told the defendant she didn't want to do the freakoffs.
Starting point is 01:38:31 Take her birthday party. Deontay told you. about it, he demanded she freaked off and she had to. What choice did Cassie have in the end? She did not have the freedom to make voluntary adult choices. Let's go back to the, let's go back to the, wait, hold on. Oh, let's go to count one for a minute. While the defendant was in the freakoffs, he had help from KK, DROC, Fahim.
Starting point is 01:39:01 They all knew what's wrong. How did they facilitate? KK got the strange man. men, access to the rooms, to the defendant and Cassie that were sharing. KK.K. got Clayton Howard. Dave, access to the rooms. Jonathan Perez found the video of Cassie having sex with an escort. He showed it to KK. Fahim Sawai, too. Fahim got drugs for the defendant during the freakoffs. Come on. February 18, 2024, after Jane told KK, KK still sent stuff for Wild King Nights.
Starting point is 01:39:28 D. Rock iced Cassie's black eyes. It would be absurd to think D. Rock didn't know what they were doing. Of course he knew. I expect the defense to say they didn't know. David James saw a stranger. Deontay Nash saw one. Jonathan Perez saw a video of Jane having sex with another man while the defendant watched. Interstate travel for prostitution. The defendant paid escorts.
Starting point is 01:39:53 He caused the travel. He sometimes even booked it. The transportation doesn't require force, fraud, or coercion. Even if all consented, we all know that's not true, but it's still a crime. It's just knowing transportation with intent for the individuals to engage in prostitution. For count three, freakoffs involved in Cassie. The escort's travel was usually booked by travel agents. You remember Dave, Clay and Howard.
Starting point is 01:40:20 He would travel from New York to Miami or L.A. Another escort traveled to Abiza. Check out GX-402. This was Jules. He was at the London Hotel in New York City. The defendant asked for Jules named for a ticket. The defendant's amic shows he paid for a car. There's a $2,000 bill from the London Hotel.
Starting point is 01:40:38 The defendant text, I will tip you. What is he tipping him for? For sex. For this incident alone, the defendant's guilty on a count three. But there's more. More jewels at London Hotel starting at 7 a.m. Consider this. Then Paul going to Turks.
Starting point is 01:40:54 The defendant says, how should I pay? He paid for Paul's travel to go to Turks for sex. Here, Reggie flew from Las Vegas to L.A. for sex. He's never tired. Jane sent $1,100 via cash app. Here's the Hotel Fulio, which is $4,000 for the damage of the hotel that the hotel staff found bodily fluids on the floor.
Starting point is 01:41:18 It couldn't be clearer. And every time KK.K. Helped arrange travel for Wild King Nights, she was part of the crime. She may have not liked it, but she did it. KKs set up travel for Wild King Nights in Vegas. They play a voice known of Ditty where he says, the wildest Wild King night in Vegas.
Starting point is 01:41:37 KKK knows this. KKKLKLKBraw, book is travel, Combs asked for her cash, she know exactly what's going on. She facilitated travel for escorts. Each is a racketeering act. You only need to find two. Just here, there are a dozen.
Starting point is 01:41:54 And then they call for a break chat. Holy. With Candace Kelly, David Ring, Alia Roberts, maybe we'll get Sierra Gillespie back up here as well. Alia, I want to turn to you. We have a question that came in from, by the way, if you have questions for our panel for the next hour, by the way, we're doing full coverage. We're going to have Anjanet doing, I think, 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern as well.
Starting point is 01:42:16 Elizabeth and I are going to be doing a recap for sidebar, recap of the entire prosecution's closing argument today. You can check that up later on Law and Crimes YouTube page. But we're getting, so if you have questions for the next hour so, make sure to submit and we'll answer them here. Olivia Rivera Nicolaik asks, do you think that Jane's testimony was a total fiasco, considering that she testified that she willingly agreed to everything. Shouldn't the prosecutors see that during preparation? I do not think that Jane Doe's testimony was a waste of time. Let's say in this scenario where they don't believe that Jane Doe was coerced, right? What we did get from Jane Doe's testimony was a complete cooperation of everything that Cassie Ventura,
Starting point is 01:42:59 testified to. We had a very, very good, a lot of the different ways in which she was manipulated and abused and that the physicality between Sean Combs and Cassie Ventura Fines' relationship, which then makes her more credible, right? So let's say we completely have Jane Doe, okay, I don't believe that she was forced, I don't believe that she was coerced, you still have then bolstered Cassie Ventura Fines' testimony and that will, again, still lead to a conviction based off of everything that she had testified to. You also need another victim. I mean, if you're talking about a pattern of abusive victims, I mean, sure, Mia, question.
Starting point is 01:43:34 Brea Bionna, Brianna McGillan, but she makes up another specifically, specific counts in this indictment for racketeering, for sex traffic, for transportation, to engage in prostitution. I know there was a whole question about, wasn't there supposed to be another alleged victim that testified? Still kind of up in the air about what happened there. All right, David, back to you. We have a question from Matthew Robillard. How can Did he even begin to handle over 70, civil lawsuits. I don't know if that's the exact number, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is. Is it realistically possible to address each one? Or is the strategy just to settle as many as possible?
Starting point is 01:44:11 Oh, boy. Look, he's going to be fighting these civil cases for a long time. Let's assume he's acquitted, right? And he still has to deal with the civil lawsuits. And what's likely going to happen is somehow they're going to, you know, get coordinated and there's going to be, you know, a process to them, but it's going to take years for him to get through the civil cases. And it will be even more difficult if he's in prison trying to do it. So no, he's not just going to go and start paying off everyone and settle those cases. He's going to hire, and I'm sure he has, he's going to have these outstanding lawyers who are going to fight the cases and ultimately settle the ones that need to be settled. All right, Candace. A question from DEDY. Why didn't
Starting point is 01:44:56 Diddy, why Diddy isn't ratting out people to get a deal? So I tell you what, there's still time for a plea deal. I mean, it's very unlikely that that will happen. Is there really? Is there really? You think that would happen? What would that look like at the end of this trial? Everybody testified already.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Like I said, like I said, it's very unlikely that would happen. We're saying that the door is open, technically speaking, but we know that that, that is, we have passed that that ship has sailed. Now I'm trying to remember what your question was. Oh, will you rat people out? You know, I think that one of the strategies that we don't know about is what's going on behind the scenes with Sean calls. We don't know what that plea deal looked like.
Starting point is 01:45:39 We don't know whether or not he gave up people. And if it was enough to get a plea deal that he liked, obviously it wasn't because he didn't take it. So I think that there's too much information that we don't know about in terms of ratting other people out. And I wouldn't call it ratting. I would call, listen, you have to. to you have to act and comply with what your defense team is asking you to do.
Starting point is 01:46:02 There's information that I'm sure he has and there's information that I'm sure his defense team has that is very, very important and that perhaps can get him off and maybe some of these civil cases. That is yet to be seen, but those civil cases are going to be what is next. And we might hear a little bit more about who's involved in those particular cases. I never believe that he was going to be ratting out people because if you take the process, narrative. He's the head. He's the top fish. He's the head of this criminal organization. Now, you could say politicians. You could say other KK. I mean, it's really him. It's you could look at, you could look at other celebrities and politicians, but a lot of it was innuendo. A lot of it,
Starting point is 01:46:41 I think a lot of people went into this case thinking that, oh my gosh, every single white party is going to be exposed. Every single celebrity is going to be exposed. It's going to be like, Jeffrey Epstein, that really wasn't what it was. It was a very specific prosecution with specific victim, specific charges. And, you know, I don't think he was ever going to take anything where he would have any prison time. Because one of the reasons we have rushed to trial, Leah, right, is because he didn't want to spend any more time in jail. He, I still think that he thought, did he look so crazy? Do you look so crazy in his photo? Look at this. The reason he surrendered his passport, the reason he came to New York, he thought he was going to
Starting point is 01:47:22 make bail. And that was the case, we wouldn't have a trial. right now he's going to push it down the road I completely agree I think people the viewers and and I am I was born in the 90s so I recognize that people might not be aware of this this is not the first time that Sean Combs has been charged with the crime right this is not the first time at all right we had the issue with with the gun with J-Lo back in 2003 if I'm not mistaken he was charged with murder or there was a conversation about or him being charged with murder so he's used to okay I'm Sean Combs I show up I do what they tell me to do I pay whatever I
Starting point is 01:47:55 to pay and then I go on with my life continuing to do what I've been doing. And I truly believe that there is a part of him that still thinks, despite all of the evidence that has been proffered against him, that that's what's going to happen this time. David, we got a question that came up from Kenesha James. Hi, awesome panel. Thank you. Question. Isn't Christina Corum, who we were just mentioned, Christina Corum, like Galane for, isn't KK like Galane for Epstein? She was never called as a witness. Why would KK be different? It's very, very good analogy there. Now, you know, she's referring to Galane Maxwell from the Epstein case who really brought these
Starting point is 01:48:34 teenage girls to Epstein so that he could engage in illegal sex with them. And now she's serving 20 plus years in prison for that. I don't think we heard that KK participated in Sean Combs' instance that much as Galane Maxwell did with Epstein. But she is the chief of staff. Her name has been bannered about this entire trial. She's never called to the stand by either side. She's definitely one of the co-conspirators that's going to be bannered about in closing
Starting point is 01:49:08 argument as being in on a lot of these crimes. And she's a central figure. And if he gets convicted, there's a very good chance that she's going to get charged next. Let's talk, Kansas, I know I think you want to say something about KK. I feel like you want to say something about KK. Well, you know, KK is one of those people. If you hear somebody, it does, you know, dozens and dozens of time in a trial,
Starting point is 01:49:32 this person has to be involved. Again, not to the extent of Maxwell, like was just mentioned, but we know that she knew everything that was happening along the way. We may not have heard from her, but we actually did. We heard from her through texts.
Starting point is 01:49:45 We heard from her through different conversations. We heard from her through the last two summation, summary art, summary people, some witnesses that had digital evidence, huge footprints of how she was involved. So we may not have heard from her physically and we may not have heard from Sean physically out of their mouths,
Starting point is 01:50:03 but we heard something that could not be disproved and that was entered into evidence. Three dozen pages of information that connected everybody together. I think that she's very, very important. And I think that had she come for either prosecution or the defense, I don't know. I think that would have opened the door
Starting point is 01:50:19 for Sean Combs to actually testify and blame it on her. Again, I know it's one of those things, well, yeah, when we look at the 1970 statute and the crime boss loophole, that's what it was created. As you said, they were going after Sean Combs, but with the same token. That wouldn't be effective if you ask me. Did he can't blame it on KK when KK only gets introduced in the picture like after 2015? Most of this behavior and some of the most egregious behavior happened up until 2015. So pretty much she was mostly utilized in covering stuff up if that's what you want to believe.
Starting point is 01:50:57 But it didn't, it's not continuous. So you can't say, oh, yeah, these things happen, but she's the one who did it or she's the one who set it up. When number one, she's not the benefactor of any of these things. She's doing these things to probably keep her job or please you. And also she comes in in the middle of the conspiracy, if that's what you want to believe, according to what the government. say no. And when it comes to his defense, his biggest defense in my estimation would be actually it was KK or she's also partly to blame because had she taken that stand, she would have known so much information, she would have sunk his ship so quick. He would have come up for air swimming and
Starting point is 01:51:36 paddle boating and paddle boating right to that stand so that he could act in his own defense. I mean, in a racketeering conspiracy case, he can't have agreed by himself. He needed somebody else. They say she's the main co-conspirator. And I wonder if the jury's going to be thinking about that. Quick question. A lot of talk about what happened yesterday. I mentioned it today with Sierra. Oh, my gosh, you know, prosecutors are abandoning arson and kidnapping.
Starting point is 01:52:01 That was not the case, right? They abandoned a theory of it. But here we get a question. Sunset of the North, the attempted arson and kidnapping dropped. Is this still charges because it happened not attempted? So I think that let's just clarify. We're right. They're still going forward with arson and kidnapping.
Starting point is 01:52:19 You think it was a good idea that they dropped it the attempt? Because I guess they're still moving forward with the idea. No, he committed arson. He committed kidnapping or he committed conspiracy to commit kidnapping or arson. Or he committed aiding and abetting, kidnapping arson. You think this is a good idea to streamline the case for the jury? I do. I think this is from a merger standpoint.
Starting point is 01:52:34 If we can argue that the actual crime was committed, we don't need the attempt because the crime itself was committed, right? We know that there was testimony from Kit Cuddy regarding the arson. We know that there was testimony from Jane as well as Cassie regarding the kidnapping. So we no longer need an attempt at committing these crime. because the crimes, as far as the evidence has been proffered, if you believe the evidence, the crimes were committed, and there no longer needs to be a need for the attempt of said crimes.
Starting point is 01:52:59 I want to play you something. So we knew this would come into evidence. We knew it was a big part of this case. As much as the 2016 tape of Sean Combs beating Cassie Ventura in the hotel hallway of the L.R. Intercontinental Hotel was going to be a piece of evidence. In fact, that's how the prosecution started their case. We also knew his apology.
Starting point is 01:53:19 video was going to come in, what, two days after CNN and published it. I want to play it right now. Talk about what impact this is going to have in the case. It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in your life, but sometimes you got to do that. I was fucked up. I mean, I hit rock bottom, but I make no excuses. My behavior on that video is inexcusable. I take full responsibility for my actions in that video. I'm disgusted. I was disgusted then when I did it. I'm disgusted now.
Starting point is 01:54:01 I went and I sought out professional help. I had to go into therapy and go into rehab. Had to ask God for his mercy and grace. I'm so sorry. But I'm committed to be a better man. He's in every day. I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm truly sorry.
Starting point is 01:54:29 David, what impact do you think that video is going to have? Aside from the fact that before trial, I think the prosecutors made a great argument. They said, you can't argue that the tape of the 2016 tape was altered. It isn't real. He's basically admitting it's him. But besides that, what impact do you think that's going to have? Because I believe in jury instructions, there is this component, the voluntary intoxication,
Starting point is 01:54:55 that he didn't form the proper criminal intent that might be necessary for, let's say, sex trafficking. What do you think of that video? Yeah, I guess they're trying to say, remember that term week we discussed yesterday, the mens rea, I guess, remember I said they didn't fully hammer home that idea that he was drunk during a lot of this stuff or he was high. I guess during that one incident, the one that's caught on camera at the intercontinental hotel, they do try to say, though, he was, that's not him either trying to kidnap her or. or trying to get her to do a sex act by force. They even admit no sex happened afterwards, at least in that hotel. And then they actually say that Diddy was drunk. They actually questioned Cassie, like, was he high or something like that?
Starting point is 01:55:51 So I guess they're saying he didn't have criminal intent for that outburst to be actually considered sex trafficking because there's no mens rea right there, no? There's no intent, right? Rat value is that video going to have for the jury? Here's what I'd say. If we were just talking about the Intercontinental Hotel incident, the beating of Cassie on that videotape, and then the video and the apology by Combs has played, okay, it kind of has an impact on the jury, and he says all the right things and seems contrite, and it's never going to happen again. I'm a changed man, okay. But we've now heard so many bad acts
Starting point is 01:56:32 about Sean Combs over a long period of time that it rings hollow. It no longer has an effect on me because I'm like, you apologize for that because you had to. It became public. What about the other 40 things that you did that are despicable? So I don't think it's going to carry a lot of weight in this trial. By the way, a lot more conversation about KK. So I'll throw this to you, Candice.
Starting point is 01:57:00 never be asks jesse if they prove ricko right racketeering conspiracy doesn't christina coram go to jail since she's part of his enterprise well she doesn't go to jail right now no no she's going to go through the process right everybody's due their day in court so it's nothing that's going to be automatic but if they prove riko it certainly does not look good for her because many people see them kind of in the same light and that they were you know an a and b pair she She knew everything that was going on. And we do know that by the evidence. The other thing that we get from this evidence is that if we see evidence here, if she is
Starting point is 01:57:39 indicted, which she just might, we're going, we know the evidence that we're going to see or what it's going to be similar to. So I would say that it would be coming, but it's not something that would be automatic. Interesting. All right. Interesting. Yeah, we're still waiting for some more tweets here. There was a, um, after-to-lee, intercity press.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Here. It's midday. day, Thursday, June 26, day 31 of the U.S. v. Sean Combs trial, and it's the closing statements by the government. I have to say, it was pretty hard hitting. And for those who were wondering whether arson and kidnapping were going to still be in, they're in. AUSA Slavic began with RICO and ran through various predicate acts. On kidnapping, she went with Cassie, having been beaten up, being confined to a hotel room, including by one of Combs' security guards. Capricone Clark, two instances of kidnapping.
Starting point is 01:58:44 One, early on, early days, 2004 in New York, when Jacob the Jewelers' jewels went missing, and she was given lie detector test and told that if she failed, she'd be in the East River. Was it kidnapping? They say yes, also taken in the car to Kid Cuddy's house. And on that note, we turned to arson. in which they said, absolutely, the burning of the car, the driving by. They didn't really get into the break-in and the locking up of the dog, at least not yet.
Starting point is 01:59:14 Then things turned dark with the sex trafficking. So far, we've been doing... She began with Jane, which is out of order chronologically, but focusing on three separate instances. One was the sobriety party where she said that Jane, as she testified, vomited between men two and three, and Combs said, get back out there. And then finally, the one in the home in which there was,
Starting point is 01:59:41 admittedly, for what it's worth, Jane banged his head on a counter, but then he beat her up and then forced her to perform oral sex on Anton. Now, somebody was tweeting back in me, why didn't Anton testify, is he alive or dead? That I don't know. I also don't know if it's Antoine. They say Anton, in any event, I don't mean to be flipped. I have to say, I have to say, having a lot of it. having just spent the time doing it.
Starting point is 02:00:04 Some are, of course, there are naysayers. Who knows? We have to wait and hear the defense one. I think hopefully the thread that you can find at Intercity Press will speak for itself. I don't know if the defense is smart not to start its defense today. I mean, I don't know. It may be that they think if they have Friday to themselves, which they won't because there'll be a rebuttal. I think this sinking in without any rebuttal may be a misconduct.
Starting point is 02:00:32 may be a mistake. What I can say is that Combs, people were asking, what is he doing? Well, he pushed his chair way back from the defense table and was sitting just kind of staring around. Two of his lawyers, Xavier Donaldson and Alexander Shapiro, his appellate lawyer ready to go,
Starting point is 02:00:50 made many, many arguments about the charge, both sat with their chins in their hands. Read into it what you may. In any event, The kerfuffle yesterday about the not proceeding on theories, these theories had to do with attempt because they definitely are in there. We've heard about Kid Cuddy's car. We've heard about the three instances of kidnapping.
Starting point is 02:01:15 And we're going to be hearing more, presumably with an emphasis on Cassie, than the rest of the day. Intercity Press will be doing it. For now, we're going to try. Okay. All right. We should have some more tweets. Let's see. The break was about 40 minutes ago.
Starting point is 02:01:29 They're back. Judge Sumeranian is asked. asking the AUSA how much more time, and she says one more hour. They bring the jury back in, and it says, I expect the judge to instruct you on forced labor. And she shows a chart. She says, you've heard of forced labor, a four woman. Cassie, Jane, and me and Capricorn.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Cassie and Jane, it was grueling sex services. Cassie called them grueling, up to four days at a time, freakoffs, maybe even more. Jane said the same thing. Cassie and Jane were on call to perform free calls. for the defendant whenever he wanted. He would use force or threats to force. He would say, let's finish on a high note.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Let's push through. You're not tired, are you? It took weeks to recover from these freakoffs. That's forced labor. KK. was setting up hotel rooms and flights. Let's turn to Mia. She worked for Combs. Finally, at Revolt, she went five days without sleep.
Starting point is 02:02:23 Combs also sexually assaulted her. He put his hand up her dress. He came into the bedroom and penetrated her. He came into the closet and forced her to perform oral sex on him. There was a time in the bathroom on the private jet. She can't fully remember. She repeated traumatic events. She was clear as a bell under cross-examination. She performed labor and services, including sexual services. He threw her against the wall, slammed the door on her arm. She saw violence at Prince's party, on Turks. When they were in South Africa,
Starting point is 02:02:57 KK told Mia, if you don't call him in 10 minutes, you don't got a job. He has all the power. control. She knew she couldn't say no even to the little things. Mia knew that her job was to protect the defendant. HR was for Combs. She couldn't go to the police due to Combs' power. The threats left her with no options. I expect you to hear that she could have left, but that she told Combs she loved them. Mia pulled no punches. There were highs and lows. Capricorn, had an issue with overtime, but she took the issue to HR, Vash to Wilson, but HR was the defendant's puppet. The defendant and Uncle Pauley threatened her in Central Park
Starting point is 02:03:41 and with the lie detector and took her to Kid Cuddy. Okay. It's happening here, people. It is happening. Holy shit. It's back packed again. It's like super packed outside the court again. No, not that.
Starting point is 02:04:18 What happened to the reporter they used to have out there? They used to have a reporter out there. Where's that black female who does legal coverage as well? We want her. Is her name like Angela or something like that? Or Simone or something? I think it's Simone. Is it that?
Starting point is 02:04:54 No, I can't find it. No, yeah, this is her. Her attorneys were really brilliant. Oh, she doesn't have an update. No update from logic either. Yeah, I'm going to be honest with you. like, I feel like I'll be a liar if I, if I just kind of misled you guys and told you like, yo, no, no, of course, he's going to beat the case.
Starting point is 02:05:27 You know, we're getting different perspectives here. If you listen to Unk, like, Unk basically said this whole shit is bullshit. If you listen to another person's perspective of it, it's quite different, right? Let me see, who else? You know what's so interesting to me? Roger Bond's is like on Vlad, and he didn't take a stand. I'm wondering why. I think, look, Roger Barnes is on Vlad, but I understand.
Starting point is 02:06:13 Well, Gene Deal, who I've interviewed before, and I have said some of stuff he says is true, some of the stuff I feel has been made up. Were you there when Gene Deal was there? No, I wasn't there when Jane. Gene was before me. Gene was in the Kim Porter, the Mesa days. Okay. But you guys have discussed Gene Deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:38 How did those discussions go? Me, to you and Puff? I mean, those discussions, it wasn't never just me and Puff. It was us and security this down the other. You know what I'm saying? It was like, yo, man, y'all y'all ain't seen Gene. And in reality, we did see Gene. We're all from Harlem.
Starting point is 02:06:55 But Puff wasn't running around Harlem like that. So me and Paulian would never tell him when we see in Gene. You know what I'm saying? Because we ain't really give a fuck. You know what I'm saying? If y'all see Gene, I'm telling you, man, somebody better punch him in the face. Somebody better do something to him, man. He out here doing this, that.
Starting point is 02:07:12 We'd be like, all, all right, all right. Okay, so when was this? Because was Gene doing interviews at this point? Yeah, we're talking like 2008, 2009. Gene was spreading the word. You know, Gene was always bad mouth from Jim. Wait, wait, hold on. Vlad TV started in 2008, 2009.
Starting point is 02:07:28 YouTube was really early. No, he wasn't doing YouTube and stuff. He was going around talking a lot of shit. Oh, okay. I agree. Like going on Vlad is like going on the stand. Like, why didn't you go up there? He's not saying pro-ditty stuff now.
Starting point is 02:07:42 From Harlem. So he was just talking a lot of shit and it's a small... Harlem is small... What was Gene Neal saying during that time? What did you hear? He basically was talking about Puff, fighting woman, hitting woman, shit that was going on with him and Kim.
Starting point is 02:08:00 Puff being gay, you know, shit with him and Usher and shit like that. He was talking the same shit that he's talking now on a major scale, but he was, he was spreading it around Harlem. So it was basically a thing where, yo, if y'all see that, nigger, man, I'm telling you y'all better hear he got hands put on him, this, that, and the other. But we've seen him, you know what I'm saying? But we're still living in Harlem.
Starting point is 02:08:21 He's not living in Harlem. We're still living there. So we're bumping to him. You know, we're bumping to him at the bank. It was a couple of times we bumped to him in the street, this stuff. We ain't had no real beef with him, but we would act like it when we was around Puff because that's what he wanted here. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:08:36 Okay, but Puff was never with you guys when you guys saw Gene Dio. Nah, never. So you guys were just saying? That's why we just was like, nah, we ain't seen him. Same thing with Mark Curry. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:08:48 Mark Curry was running his mouth about Pop. He had the book out since 2009, 2010. So I'm telling you. He's the devil, I think. Yeah, if y'all see him, y'all better put hands on him, this, that, and the other. When Uncle Polly said he's seen,
Starting point is 02:09:01 seen Mark, he said he's seen him, he closed the door, and he locked the door, and everything. It was him and some other security dudes. And he asked Mark, he said, yo, why are you doing this, yo? He said, man, I got to take care of my family. And Paul told him, okay, that's all I wanted to hear, yeah. He ain't tell Puff about it. You know what I'm saying? But he said, yo, if you're doing it to take care of your family, man, take care of your family. But this is the type of stuff that we ain't go back and tell Puff. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:09:26 You know, because we know that you were a piece of shit at the end of the day, to be honest with you. It's just that we need a job. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. The girl who claimed she was 15, she was raped by Puffy and Jay-Z. Right. And
Starting point is 02:09:54 you know, at one point, I mean, another thing, I'm wondering if prosecutors didn't bring him on the stand, because it's not like he's missing. Like, we can't find Uncle Pauley. We haven't heard nothing from D-Rod, right?
Starting point is 02:10:09 I don't know if they got social media outlets, but like, we don't hear nothing from him. We haven't heard none from from K. but this guy's on Vlad. I'm wondering if prosecutors didn't bring him to the stand because remember when he first came out and he started saying stuff, he basically admitted. He said, I'm only now speaking up
Starting point is 02:10:24 because I asked Diddy to help me out with my son and he wouldn't help me out as far as my son went. And because he's not helping me out, I'm going to speak up. And I'm going to be honest with you. I think a defense team would have a field day. If say he's flipping against Diddy, they would have a field day against this guy.
Starting point is 02:10:42 You admitted that you only spoke up because you asked Did he for a favor and he wouldn't do it? Like, how could we think you're credible? I'm wondering if that's the reason why I didn't bring him in particular there. But Gene Deal looked like he wanted to go. I mean, shit, he even went to the courthouse. I wonder why they didn't bring up Gene Deal. I mean, number one, Jay Z said this is nonsense. Right.
Starting point is 02:11:03 The girl, you know, a bunch of stuff she was saying just was impossible. She was saying how, you know, the group Good Charlotte was there. And they were like, we weren't even at that event. we were touring in the Midwest. And her old father even said that this is nonsense. Like I would have remembered these instances. You know, we lived three hours away. I would remember a six-hour drive.
Starting point is 02:11:22 Right. You know. But what was interesting was that Jay Z's camp basically put out a statement saying that Jay and Puff are not friends and they're not close at all or whatever else. Did you see the two of them interact a lot? I seen them interact. But I wouldn't say they was close. I believe Puff felt they was close.
Starting point is 02:11:39 Oh. But if you was a person. on the outside looking in like me and Uncle Paul he used to always talk about it me and D Rock was talking about it yo why Puff kind of like sucking Jay off so much you know what I'm saying because you'd be like we don't flew to five or six seven different concerts
Starting point is 02:11:55 that Jay-Z has but Jay-Z is not that one of Puff shows you know what I'm saying you look at the rock brunch where Puff will break his neck to get to the brunch but J-Z don't pop up at any of Puff parties you know now I can only speak up until 2012. You know what I'm saying? And Puff was breaking his neck
Starting point is 02:12:16 at the end of the day in our mind we said, yo, he ain't even invite Puff to his wedding. When he married Beyonce, Steve Stoughton, all of them was there. You know what I'm saying? And Puff was kind of in his feelings, but once again. Oh, Puff was upset.
Starting point is 02:12:29 He didn't get invited to the wedding? Of course he was. You know what I'm saying? But you got to remember, we're security, so we're bottom on a tote pole. So he's not going to show you that it really affects him
Starting point is 02:12:40 until you have a little conversation with him or you say something or you overhear something but he didn't he didn't he didn't get invited to that you know yeah jay came through every once in a while like if we was in a yacht and sandrope or one of these places like that jay might ride up you know what i'm saying and it's it's more or less to show yeah i got a yacht too you know what i'm saying yeah i'm out here too more or less than we we're tight friends i look at it as two people that's getting money because they did have some businesses together and we did have to go to some meetings together and it was like this is how far it goes but we're not friends you know what I'm saying like people ask me at all the
Starting point is 02:13:22 time I mean Jay ain't really fuck with puff it was no personal answer it was it would it would be like it wrong well you know so funny I think I think that's Jay and Kanye too though there's something about people getting around Jay and Jake massaging that business relationship and the other person thinking it's a real relationship, right? Like, I don't know necessarily about him and Dame, but I definitely think him and Kanye. I think, right, Kanye dropped a song called, my big brother was Biggs brother.
Starting point is 02:13:54 You know what I mean? I mean, he's talking about Jay. He's kind of, like, kind of crying about Jay not treating him a certain type of way. Yo, I did all these things for you, but you wouldn't do this for me. You wouldn't give me tickets to a show. So it's like, Jay kind of always dealt with, a bunch of niggins like work associates but they always thought it was more than that
Starting point is 02:14:17 on burgls is flying from a lay on his jet but j z just so happens to be going to new york too we all end up on the jet flying back those type of things but nothing to go out as way it's if we in a club you might be downtown a bed or something like that j z might be there so it they end up at the same table you know what i'm saying and it was times where i listened to the records with Jay Z said, yo, why should I drink syrup when Puff, I mean, why should I drink Great Goose when Puff got syrup? This is something new that just started happening because I remember we almost got into a big altercation
Starting point is 02:14:56 with Peckhaz and then because. Or Sean Peckos? Yeah, because Puff was there and J.N. was there and they had a bunch of Grey Goose bottles come to the table. And Puff felt like, yo, that was disrespectful. And he knocked over the Great Goose bottles. You know what I'm saying? I think I heard about this.
Starting point is 02:15:12 Fuck y'all nigs doing that for, yo, da-da-da-da-da. But Jay didn't care. You know what I'm saying? You know, and the pet guys came back to the house and explained to self, da-da-da-da. You know, I was a ease dropping and air-dropping, you know, because like I said, Puff is always ready to fight. You know what I'm saying? Who y'all got in the fight? Puff or Jay-Z?
Starting point is 02:15:35 Emory just came home and this, that, and I thought, and I thought, and they ordered great goosebumps. And then why you got 10 great goosebots? bottles coming to the table if you know I'm right here at the table and I got sarahp. So there's a lot of different things that don't add up that they show you, you know what I'm saying? If you listen to one of Jay Z records where he said, you, I'm sorry, homie, I had to do it at the beginning of his record. You wouldn't know that that's the same beat that Puff sent to JZ to do his record. But if you listen to the last train of Paris, you hear the same beat on one the Puff records.
Starting point is 02:16:10 Jay turned around and did a record off of the same beat. You didn't see him run up on J and smack J. And this, that other. You wouldn't know the subliminal shit unless you're there. So when he said, yo, I'm sorry, homie. I had to do it. He's actually talking to Puff because
Starting point is 02:16:26 it's the same beat of the... That's an interesting relationship. We should probably watch a documentary on it eventually. Yeah. Oh. Roger Bond does not take the stand, but is on Vlad telling
Starting point is 02:16:40 at all. I wonder, like, it seems like he's concerned about getting money. Vlad's paying him. You're pretty much, I don't know if you want to call it snitching, but you're pretty much saying the stuff. Why not say it in court? And you could at least write, you could write a book off being a witness.
Starting point is 02:16:59 You know what I mean? You could write a book. Y'all was one of the witness, one of the, this is the real story of bad boy. Like, you could, you could write a book, but your credibility is boasting by you taking a stand. Why not take the stand? It's a little odd to me, huh? The other day with the breakfast club, when Shine was on there.
Starting point is 02:17:25 And I guess when Shine got out and they were hanging out a little bit, I guess they're out in Paris. And he had seen Puff spend half a million dollars on Cassie. Right. That's what he said. Right. And then Puff was like, had to talk with him afterwards, it was like, hey, man, listen, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:17:45 The lawyers was telling me, you know, to turn against you. I didn't want to do it. I know that was a mistake and so forth. I'm really sorry. Yeah, you know, you took that case.
Starting point is 02:17:53 You did it 10 years. Here's 50,000. And Sean was like, I did 10 years. You gave him 50,000. And I'd just seen you give this chick half a million. Right.
Starting point is 02:18:05 If you'd give me a million, I would have been, okay, that's cool. Like, okay, thank you. But 50,000, he said he was damn ready to give it back. Right. But he didn't. No, he did.
Starting point is 02:18:15 Because you need it. And that's what Perth plays off. He plays off. He plays off the fact that he know you need him. Or the same thing with security assistance, everything. You know, you just came home from jail. All right, you make it $70,000 a year with me, but you need me. You know what else you're going?
Starting point is 02:18:32 You know, where are you going? You know what I'm saying? So where's he say, okay, I'm paying you more than the average person to pay. I'm not paying you what you worth. And that's a, that's puff, 100%. Everything he does, he wants to cut the corners on. book most of his parties throughout the years. Your bonds,
Starting point is 02:18:51 I don't give nobody 20%. I'm not giving nobody 20%. I'll give you 10%. You know what I'm saying? Then it came to a point where in order for me to get, to be able to book it, I only would get 5%. Wow. You know what I'm saying? But
Starting point is 02:19:06 he's getting 40 or $50,000 a party. So I say fuck it, give me the 5%. You know what I'm saying? Give me the fuck. Because 5% is better than nothing. But this is the type advantages that he takes. Right. Because 5% of like 2,500. Exactly. But if you work in
Starting point is 02:19:23 anyway and you got to book this party anyway and you make an extra $2,500, you start to have the mentality of, okay, at least I got that. But at the end of the day, why you couldn't give me my regular start off at 20% or give me my 10%, whichever
Starting point is 02:19:39 it was, you know? Well, yeah, I mean, the CFO took the stand. Mm-hmm. And he was basically implying that Puffy was engaging in tax evasion because he was like you guys would get the money in cash and then he would basically just
Starting point is 02:19:55 take the cash and then later on it would be the check that he would actually declare on his taxes and so forth, right? Okay, so you're saying the first half the first half would be cash. Right. You know what I'm saying? That was our job right there to go pick up the first half. So the first half would be cash.
Starting point is 02:20:11 Whatever they did with it, you know, we're not accounts. We didn't know. You know what I'm saying? All I know is that this is something that's been going on before I got there. You know what I'm saying? When I got there in 2003, 2003, 2004, you know, I got to, let's just say mansion or live or let's say 112. I got a party, go see this person right here.
Starting point is 02:20:31 They got to pay me half. I'm charging them 50,000. They're going to give you 25. Once you get that 25, you take it to the CFO or you take it to Puff or you take it to whoever they tell you to take it to. Yo, digger, yo, I gave that 25 to such and such. Oh, okay, cool. So they only owe me the back end.
Starting point is 02:20:49 And then the back end would be a check. You know what I'm saying? You don't have no idea what that first end is for, but then you start hearing like when Derek took the stand and stuff like that, debt you paid that first half so that he could get around taxes. Right. So he basically pocketed the 25 in cash and just kept that in the safe. And then the other 25 would be declared.
Starting point is 02:21:11 Right. That's probably what's happening. Right. Gotcha. Yeah. This is Mr. Combs' kingdom. We are all here to serve in it. Does that sound like something that would be said?
Starting point is 02:21:31 Of course. Mr. Combs' kingdom. We all serve in it. We got slaves or something. Oh, no. That's how he treats you. Huh. Yeah, period, point blank.
Starting point is 02:21:42 Wasn't there issues with you getting overtime? Of course there was. I spoke about this way before what they was talking about, if you remember. I said we used to work 20 hours a day, sometimes 72 hours. Because, see, assistance and security have to be with him at all times. So if he's doing an album, you're inside the studio working for two days straight. Meanwhile, he got things to keep him up.
Starting point is 02:22:07 You don't have nothing to keep you up. And it was a time that he was at Atlantic Records. Babboy was underneath Atlantic Records. So our timesheets would go into Atlantic Records to Craig Cowan. and Julie and Emily and Emmett were going to them. And they seen the hours that was on there. So they would have to build Bad Boy because Bad Boy had a certain amount of money. And one day we was driving in the car and Puff said, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:22:35 What the fuck? And he said, Joe, you're doing this shit to me too? So he found out that people was putting in the hours that they really was working. You know what I'm saying? We working 120 hours in a week and things like that. And he's like, nah, nah, nah, I can't pay y'all for that. And everybody was like, yo, this is just what we work in. We just putting in.
Starting point is 02:22:57 Cold time is 7 in the morning. We're here until 4 in the morning. We had Bad Boy Studio to 4 in the morning. So what he did with me was the young lady Tony Fletcher that was head of finance. And Bad Boy came to me and said, Barnes, either you leave or you change these hours. hours. You know what I'm saying? And she made me change my hours to 12 hours a day, seven days a week, right? But that's still overtime, though. Huh? That's still overtime. So for example, that's overtime, but that's not what I'm working. I'm working 20 hours a day. Yeah, that's crazy because I've got a staff of like 11 people.
Starting point is 02:23:41 And I have to follow the rules. If you work more than eight hours a day or more than 40 hours. hours a week, you get paid time and a half. My employees could attest to this. Right. I don't expect anyone to work more than 40 hours and not get paid time and a half. Right. Or else I'm going to deal with the labor department.
Starting point is 02:23:59 Right. But he was basically purposely underpaying people? Purposely. Huh. Purposely. Because the hours that he was doing, like even the driver, the driver went, he would put in how many hours he rode with Puff,
Starting point is 02:24:13 Atlantic, he made the driver. He said, yo, I could only pay you. I think it was $65,000. And the driver was making like $160,000, $170,000 because of the hours. And he made him do that. He lost his house and everything else. But Puff came and told him, he said, yo man, do me a favor. I need you to stay with me.
Starting point is 02:24:34 I trust you. He said, but if you just need some money from time to time, just ask me and I'll give it to you out my pocket. Well, he did that once or twice. But then when the driver needed some more money, he was like, I don't have it. I don't have it. I don't have it. interesting how cheap Puffy is considering his net worth because, you know, I'd even heard that he was trying to like cut corners with his legal bills and his legal defense. Like I heard that
Starting point is 02:25:03 this defense should have cost way more money. There should be way more experts or whatever else. But Puff was like, nah, that's too much. I'm not going to spend that much. And it's like, yo, like your life is online right now. You're facing life in prison. Like, but yeah, the cheapness I her just is a little weird considering how much she's worth. Oh, no. I mean, down to the point of just, okay, it's cool to be, you know, if you want to be cheap, if you don't want to tip 20%, you know, whatever else, there's nothing illegal. You don't have to tip.
Starting point is 02:25:30 Right. Right. But legally, you have to pay people overtime. Right. I am familiar with this. Right. You know what I'm saying? If I didn't pay, if I told my employees, you all got to work 60 hours a week and I'm
Starting point is 02:25:40 only going to pay you for 40, at some point, one of them's going to get sick of it, go to the labor department, and then I'm going to have a case to the labor department. apartment where they're going to go through all my records and then I'm going to have to pay penalties and fines and so. All right. We're still waiting for some more tweets to come up. Why did it just pop up with my thing? Cuban link responds to that lawsuit.
Starting point is 02:25:58 Oh, you? So this is one of the enforcers in the Fat Joe lawsuit. He responded to the lawsuit versus Fat Joe. Obviously, he's going to be on Fat Joe's side. I'm wondering. I can see when he speaks. I can visualize shit because I know that fat balugas and change. I know his whole structure, too.
Starting point is 02:26:15 I know the whole group to that. You know, I know the linguah. So the keepers, when it was running trees, they turned out blinding. Like, you know, the keeper was in,
Starting point is 02:26:23 you know what I'm saying? Métian de Manu. Wait, is he not cool with Fat Joe no more? Who do you call it beluga whale? And there's a problem. The apotheque, you can never say,
Starting point is 02:26:34 you can never say, you know, that's a sister to be in a plot of this. If you take advantage of little kids and all that, let the law, let the law handle it.
Starting point is 02:26:43 Because if we handle them, or he can, his quarter, he's going to die. You know what I'm saying? That's how the old school rules went. You know what I mean? If he's that type of individual. Do I think he's a thick individual like that? He's, you know, praise on little kids. I don't think. I give him the benefit of that.
Starting point is 02:26:59 Wait, wasn't this dude around Fat Joe? Why is he talking like he doesn't know? Does Fat Joe like kids or not, bro? Bro, like, if these guys were like part of like Terra Squad and been around Fat Joe for years, how don't you know if he loved kids? Do I think he made a mistake? He fell in love because the beluga's a AAA. Remember it? Triple A.
Starting point is 02:27:20 I'll tell you that AAA. You know, J.B. The other guy, the other guy that, that he mentions in a complaint, his name is J.B., right? Yeah. That's extra, extra. That's like one.
Starting point is 02:27:33 I don't know what's lower than AAA batteries as far as far as far as, because that's, that's a joke, AAA. I always call them that. Because, like I told you, we ran this together. So J.B., that niggins. Mosquito.
Starting point is 02:27:45 Are they comparing dick sizes? Oh, hell now. This is the real freako. Oh, nuts. For real, for real mosquito nuts. So I'm trying to tell you, these guys got a problem with that down there. So, you know, they feel,
Starting point is 02:28:00 you know, when the women give them love, this is your for all your fucking fog. That's what you're laughing. You fucking choke, no joke. So listen. So what I'm saying is that. That's how I want to bring your ass on here. Because you're a fucking fool with AAA battery.
Starting point is 02:28:14 How does he memorize this man's dick size? So I be playing, but I'm not playing. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they have a problem with that, and he's overly sexually active. These little dudes, when they're killed dicks, they go crazy when they're around chicks. And they want to be the top dogs, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:28:34 And that's why they keep the, you know, the Asiatics, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. With the African kings around. You know what I'm saying? The Cuban kings, the African kings, they're all around. so they go get the girls with the, you know what I'm saying? With the real ones.
Starting point is 02:28:48 And they come out with the implants, the little mosquito, you know what I'm saying? The Viagra pills. And that's when they come out with the, you know, the pumps, the pumps in the rump. Like, hammer. Pumped in the rumps in the rums. But I'm saying, listen, I know how you could have made a mistake. But after three, we got three young, 15, 16. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:13 That's the problem. Maybe one, you know what I'm saying? You fell in love with her. Yeah. I'm saying? You're feeling love with her. Wait, what I'm saying? Maybe.
Starting point is 02:29:23 You was always ready to lose your relationship with her. And, you know, it happened for real. You fell in love. You're not supposed to even did that. That's some fucking buddy Molly shit when I've been with his cousin. He's fucking married cousin, 15. You know, all Kelly with a Leah type shit.
Starting point is 02:29:37 You know what I'm saying? But they got married and stuff like that. But you know, this fat dude probably got probably got, you know what I'm saying, swept off his feet. I'd give him that if it was one time. But if you got three, man, you got a strike out. And I think if you're guilty of that, you get everything that, the court or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:29:57 The punishment is. You deserve it. Yeah, I'm trying to. What else, man? Because I don't know. It's 150 things in there. I don't know. I read.
Starting point is 02:30:11 He said, while Fadjo was outwardly bragging. T.A. felt sick as his genitals inadvertently brushed against Fadjo's, I mean, inadvertently brushed against Fad Joe's. At another point during this interaction, Fadjo began shouting T.A.'s name. T.A. T.A. You, I ain't going out of you. I ain't going out of you. But, you know, there was one dude that there was the first T.A.
Starting point is 02:30:42 I ain't going to say his name yet. Right. No, he should know. Wait, well, this guy looked like he's kind of given some credence. Is there some truth of this fat Joe shit then? So he said there was another guy that was the T.A. before T.A. He used to know. I'm going to play fucking trivia with you because I know you know.
Starting point is 02:31:04 Yeah. It used to be that type of individual like T.A. You know, is there where the performances, he was like a polo flick dude. used to bang them out with like 10 bills on and a fucking hat backwards. And we used to be, you know, he used to be in make movies and shit. We used to be like, the crew. We used to be, you know, some, you know, young kids shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:31:26 Going wild, you know, you know, Latino. It was really like Latino's going wild. You know what I'm saying? So you can imagine a bunch of, you know, Spanish dudes and even some black dudes out in there going wild from the hood. And we got pussy, like, wound up just to come to see us. And we used to do shit like that on some. punch it all over age.
Starting point is 02:31:45 Let me state that again. And it was in fun. It was memories that we got. But booby, booby. If you want it, movie, somebody could get back. So, T.A. T.A. was the new movie.
Starting point is 02:31:59 Oh, my God. Yeah, so he said. This is only Fad Joe in the room now. Yeah, it didn't just him and Fad Joe. Oh, see, this is where I know, see, this is when the threshold went further, because when we was, when I was, like booby and stuff like that and we're doing that thing it was the crew there and it was done in
Starting point is 02:32:18 fun with like cheering them all and some you know some teams like we played a fucking game or something but now it's just the intimate part with t a and and and and the fucking beluga whale that's sitting on the corner of just jerking his boss off looking at him cheering him on by itself with pom-poms and check it out it's it leather and leather drawers on all right yeah I'm just trying to get a vision. Oh, man. Damn, I guess they're not cool no more. Wow.
Starting point is 02:32:54 All right. We'll kind of get back to that a little bit. Speaking of which, you know, we're trying to break up the monotony here. Y'all see what TD Punch said on Twitter, ever? So TD Punch said on the 22nd, the divided hip-hop is insane.
Starting point is 02:33:21 It's like two different ideologies. The battle may have been the catalyst. But I feel like it's been bubbling for a while. No matter what the topic is, you could tell clearly who falls on what side. Depending on which side is taken in the battle, the same group of people, likes the same type of sports star, the same politicians, the same stance on whatever issues. It's like a social experiment, okay? And, yeah, it says, now he says we need unity is hip-hop, okay?
Starting point is 02:33:55 I ain't want to you, man. These TDE niggas, like, I feel like they're either half stupid or they're just confused. They basically
Starting point is 02:34:05 give us an ideology. They're not like us. It's the biggest divisive song in history. The idea that other niggas ain't like your kind. They ain't like us.
Starting point is 02:34:19 And then a year later, they're like, yo, why are there people not like us? Like, nigga y'all been saying y'all don't you know what I mean? I've been telling you this the idea it's this is why I'm telling you this is why even like again
Starting point is 02:34:38 you know not to get back into it but like even my conversation with day free I was just like there's like a lack of self-awareness here right punch who loves the idea of the song not like us a year later saying, wait, why? Why is there a other side? Why is hip-hop so divided? Nigger, you literally champion not like us. It's like, it's like when Dave Free said, yo, why's this nigga's doing the weird shit
Starting point is 02:35:06 like mentioning people's families and? Bro, you called a man a benefile and said he had a daughter. Like, brother, like, these are things like, like, it's kind of self-explanatory. Like, there's nothing that's like, ooh, how did it happen? These are pretty obvious, okay?
Starting point is 02:35:24 Now, I'll partially give him a little bit of agreement where I do believe that there's other things that kind of like spurred it. I just think the battle was one of the major things because I agree with him that, yo, Drake fans, like Drake fans, they all like the same type of things outside of Drake. like their ideology on life like people who would support Drake their ideal their ideal their ideology on on life the type of other rappers they like the type of things they don't care about and the type of things they do care about
Starting point is 02:36:07 is kind of uniform like they like all the same things they like and then the Kendrick fans these are the woke motherfuckers bro like they're super woke so like every woke thing in history, that's them. What's that part? Not like us?
Starting point is 02:36:25 What's that part? Go? Let me see. Not like. Like, when I think about like Kendrick fans, I think about this part right here. Right here. Right here. Once upon a time, all of us was, right? Once upon a time
Starting point is 02:36:45 all of us was in chains. Homies still doubled down calling us some slaves. Atlanta was a mechle building railroads and trains. bear with me for a second let me put y'all on game the sellers was using like what the fuck we don't get a fuck about that you know what i mean but like like the k bots that's like their life like that's them the sellers were using tone foe to make them richer fast forward 2024 you got the same agenda you run to Atlanta to get a check balance let me break it for you this is a real nigga
Starting point is 02:37:16 challenge so yeah no i agree with that but you know honestly and i'll say this the punch this ain't going to change right Right. The only time when hip hop unites is when, first of all, hip hop is always kind of been, it's just that these are huge artists. I mean, it was just as divisive right after Tupac and Biggie stuff. And people were thinking West and East. Now, granted, it's not West and East because, you know, Drake from Toronto. But it's definitely a division among just hip hop and hip hop ideology. the only time hip hop is ever going to come back together
Starting point is 02:37:56 is when hipops are having fun again and that's the thing there is we gotta wait some time it's gonna pass it's gonna pass but niggas is going to get back to let's have fun and what happens is that
Starting point is 02:38:12 everybody will want to have fun right right now both sides of this divide there's like weirdos right okay let me just point out how you're like, like, everybody who likes Kendrick, according to them, everybody who likes Drake's a pedophile, right? So like, for them, it's like, it's just like, yo, freaky head.
Starting point is 02:38:33 Like, it's, it's, you just have to wait this out, bro. You wait this out. Eventually, people will be tired of this bullshit. Just like right now, we hit the teetering point. Like, not like us, it's finally going to decline, okay? Like, I think we saw the last run at Toronto, right? In Toronto. And I'm like, okay, good.
Starting point is 02:38:53 You got that moment. You got every other fucking moment. You got the Super Bowl moment. You got the Grammy moment. You got every fucking moment you could get with the goddamn song. It's been over a year. Now let the song gracefully die. Okay.
Starting point is 02:39:04 Now, it will never die. So one of the biggest songs ever. But the sentiment, let it go. We got to let it go. And I think that's what people just have to do. You just have to wait. Just have to wait. Just got to wait.
Starting point is 02:39:14 Right? Now, here's a sad part of this divide. Because when I hear people say that and I hear puns, Punch said this one thing. He said, what do you say? He says it's been bubbling for a while, right? And he's saying the battle isn't a catalyst. Here's where I disagree with him.
Starting point is 02:39:42 And this is why I give all the credit to the battle and mostly to this Kendrick Drake thing. Because also I do think there are personality types and people who have ideals about them that fall either on the Drake side and some of that fall on Kendrick's side. Why I don't say this is going to be beneficial is that here's the reality of it.
Starting point is 02:40:05 This divide, none of them people who have this moral high ground, the woke niggas, they don't support any other woke nigger but Kendrick. I keep telling you all that. Like, people said, oh, no, it's great. We brought lyricism back. And nobody gave a fuck about this whole little
Starting point is 02:40:22 Joey badass spanking out like 10 West Coast niggas. Like nobody gave a fuck. You know what I mean? Like, we're not seeing no lyrical niggas rise to the top. That's what I keep telling you. I'm like, it's very ironic and interesting in how this battle went down because I see people on the West Coast claiming it's a win for the West Coast,
Starting point is 02:40:40 yet not one West Coast artist. We're seen having any meteoric rise or we could say it's on the next up circle. Like, no, it only helps Kendrick. You get what I'm saying? Now, I think the role where Drake, operates and is, there's always going to be a new hit maker that kind of just makes catchy songs for the bitches.
Starting point is 02:41:00 There's always going to do that. Here's the thing, though, the masses who love Kendrick, they don't love nobody else that does what Kendrick does, not one, which is, it's kind of crazy. Like, I'm like, so y'all tell me he's the only woke nigger that y'all like listen to? Because there's some other woke niggas. Y'all don't like hearing them? They're like, nah, we're good. We only want one wotting.
Starting point is 02:41:21 All right. That's how called him hip-hop Jesus. Anyway Yeah, but I thought this was kind of crazy And a little bit stupid by a punch I'm like, huh? What fuck are you talking about? What is punch talking about?
Starting point is 02:41:34 I wish these guys would just understand You created this. You created this. You created this, you created this, nigga. You did this, all right? You, Kendrick and Drake did this. Nobody else. Don't, don't, the media ain't do it.
Starting point is 02:41:50 The fans ain't do it. You did this, nigga. Like, just, The same amount of millions and sold out tours and you're doing stadiums and you're accepting that just accepts what it comes with. That's just what do you got to do? Don't come online and be like, oh, I notice there's a divide in hip hop. Really, nigger? You literally try to fuck up the relationship Drake had by claiming he's dick riding.
Starting point is 02:42:15 Oh, you ran to Atlanta. You call Future when you need a hit from the club. You call Savage when you need to. You basically try to fuck up. this guy's entire friendships. You basically try to isolate him, say he's not like us. You demonize collaborations. You basically saying him collaborating with other cities,
Starting point is 02:42:39 which is what unity is, is corny colonization. Y'all call it a nigger colonizer. And as soon as y'all say it, and niggas dance to it and Crip Walk to it for entire year, y'all be like, why is it? Why is there so much? We need some unity up in there. this bitch. We do. But y'all niggas can't tell us that. Y'all
Starting point is 02:43:00 things can't tell us that. You started it. No, no. Nope, we don't want to hear about it. Sorry. Sorry. Somebody said he might be trolling. He got to be trolling. He got to be trolling. Then he proceeds to basically block Drake off the goddamn playboy carty album. Hey, come on. Ain't no goddamn unity coming. And here's the thing, too. This is another thing that I think they lack self-awareness. And this is what I said to day free. And I've said before, so I was repeated. Well, no, I said this is Anthony Saleh.
Starting point is 02:43:39 I say, yo, when y'all are talking about all this, what y'all consider weird shit, right? People getting docs that aren't public figures, people stalking wives and families, completely get it. Those are weird things that fans are going to do. The remedy, though, is not tell fans to stop. The remedies to lead by example.
Starting point is 02:43:58 y'all have to if y'all don't like what's what's what's now happened y'all got all the money and all the clout and everything already y'all and drake got to go sit up in a room and it happened in dance all except people were getting stabbed so the government got involved and say yo y'all two niggas who are beefing y'all have divided the entire country they got people claiming gauze like people claiming gully yall are fighting all over the place y'all got to piece it up so i don't want to hear nobody from tde or ovio tell us that there is a lot of of unity if y'all are not proposing y'all getting together with the nigger that y'all started this lack of unity with and y'all basically shown people that y'all could be grown and get passion honestly like at some point if either them have this thought get together and squash it like men otherwise enjoy what y'all have created y'all have turned hip-hop into a dysfunctional cesspool of soap soap box Meat riders who are fake woke and then the other people who are just like Drake fans. Nah, and by the way, like if we cut down the middle, I think the people who like the futures of this world, like the Travis's, I think they're going to be on Drake's side.
Starting point is 02:45:25 And I think it's just fans that might like future and like a Travis, but like they're like super woke. They're on Kendrick side. But it, but I'm telling you, the ideology just goes beyond just music. It's way further at this point. It's way further. Hang on a lot.
Starting point is 02:45:43 All right. But anyway, punch, I told you all that the battle, which, let me tell you, I'm one of the biggest benefactors of the battle too.
Starting point is 02:45:54 The battle fucked up hip-hop, bro. It fucked it up. It fucks it up. Like, you get an artist like Deutsche, she's not, a horrible artist, but you're going to have fans who don't like what maybe ideology or
Starting point is 02:46:08 role or like kind of perspective that she kind of falls on, and she's definitely now on the Drake side. So they're just going to unwarrantly hated on her, right? And then you're going to have other people that might align with a more Drake-like image that's going to get unwarnely hated on them too. And yeah, it's both wax. So anyway. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 02:46:33 What else? Oh, shit. I know y'all didn't see this shit, Chad. This was so crazy thing. I almost was, I was crying. Fearbook posting. They said, Little Baby's frustrated after songs got leaked. Check this out.
Starting point is 02:46:49 They said, Little Baby, I don't even know if Little Baby really tweeted this, but this is too funny. This is like a meek, no post. It says, Little Baby tweeted out. Damn, y'all just going to keep leaking my songs? check out the responses, Jack. Bro, these comments are from me. Here's the comments.
Starting point is 02:47:05 Yo, the shit so ass, you found out about the leak before we did. Renzi said, Nick, ain't nobody leak, yo, goddamn shit in 2025. And so, yo, and somebody says, yo, you good, bro. Nobody's paying attention to your leaks. And I'm like, I want no parts. Then I said, me a baby talk.
Starting point is 02:47:28 We have a big, baby talk. So, yeah, yeah, there's no act. Hey, coming to baby now. Okay? I thought you made a baby talk, right? Yeah, Roderick put us on phone, right? I told you out there, right? Anyway, cool.
Starting point is 02:47:45 What's the status of baby's career right now? Is it lit? He just went on tour. I know his tour came to Jersey, and there was mad holes hit me up. Yo, you got tickets to the baby show? Oh, I want to go to the baby. So people are checking out this tour. But are they checking out new music?
Starting point is 02:48:02 I don't know. I don't know. Y'all go outside, right? Do you hear new baby music? I think they're going to play his music in the club, right? Because, like, he's pretty much had, like, a, almost like a 10-year run at this point, not 10-year, but, like, around 8, 8 years, 8-7 years, of making hit songs, and his songs are mostly club songs.
Starting point is 02:48:20 So you're going to hear him when you go out to the club. But are you hearing new baby, like, 2025 or 2024? Or are you hearing, like, you know, older songs, like, before the YSL Rico? So what are you hearing that right now? Oh, man. Oh, man. Let me see what you tweet. I think you deleted the tweet.
Starting point is 02:48:53 You know what this tweet is given, though? I remember when, did you remember when designer said, yo, if y'all want my next song, give me 10,000 retweets. Niggily, the shit didn't pass 500. He said, I'm not dropping my next song unless I get 10,000. a retweet. Nick, all the comments was, listen, I had to un-re-tweet this to make sure you don't drop no more.
Starting point is 02:49:20 I was like, oh, this is bad. This is bad. That's why I had my man jerking off on the plane. That's why he was jerking off on a plane, man. Y'all did design a crazy, bro. Y'all did design a crazy, bro. They said, nobody's going to the club in 2025? What hell are y'all going in?
Starting point is 02:49:41 Somebody said Mexican OT and sauce? Let me talk about that real quick. So apparently Mexican OT, him and sauce, you know, there's like a slight back and forth going on after Mexican OT says he's Mexican if you don't know he basically affirmed he say, yo listen I'm going to say the word nigger when I feel like
Starting point is 02:50:06 saying the word nigga ain't none of y'all niggies going to say shit about it, right? People felt a little uneasy about his confidence and saying it. Here we go. Do you feel like you could say the N word? I feel like I can't say it but not because of that and I'm going to tell you why. I wish there was some black dudes in there Oh shit There are
Starting point is 02:50:26 Oh shit Oh shit There's some Black dudes up in We're Really right there And this All right
Starting point is 02:50:32 Not Okay well We're gonna use him What the fuck Are you gonna do about it You know And then second of all
Starting point is 02:50:38 I ain't gonna lie That's the Gangs the way to do it I think Sixth Nine said Some of the same shit too
Starting point is 02:50:44 It was like All right Who's gonna Who's gonna Do something about it I grew up Loving these motherfuckers
Starting point is 02:50:51 I grew up Fighting with him I grew up eating with them. I grew up fucking doing bad shit with them. I grew up loving with them. And I got family. And it's not even about family, even if I wasn't related to nobody at black. I mean, it was shit. It's what the fuck I was surrounded by, you know? Like, I respect people that they feel that way. And that's why I try to shut the fuck up about it. Right. But if you're from where I'm from, or anywhere, what the fuck are you going to do about it? You know, I, it's like I don't went to the jungle and earned the
Starting point is 02:51:24 lion's head, you know. I feel like a lot of people that are from a Latino descent here in New York feel that same way. The Puerto Rico is the Dominican. I mean, shit, y'all just, I mean, and not even trying to justify, but she, y'all just got dropped off before us.
Starting point is 02:51:40 That's all the thing is. You got dropped off first. It's crazy. We're from the same boat. I don't know about that one, Chief. I don't know about that one. Anyway, um, sauce Walker started jumping in a conversation. because she said
Starting point is 02:52:01 If you're not black Stop saying nigger, period I don't know why that's so hard I don't care who you grew up with you Not black expansion vocabulary Saliswaga says she barely black Like my kids LOL How are you gonna say who can say the N word
Starting point is 02:52:12 That's like saying black people Can't eat tacos Ignorance at his finest He then went on to say I did South Wagon I did an interview last night's time My boy dance a project AV dropper song
Starting point is 02:52:26 The subject in hand Mexican O T See, now, at first when I was speaking on, what I was speaking on, I was only talking about the shit I seen on, say cheese with the good and I don't say cheese. My bro, Danza showed me the interview and showed me exactly verbatim what Mexican O.T said on the interview on the podcast of all the women. O.T. Bitsch you wrong, ho. I'm going to tell you why you wrong, little, but I'm going to tell you why you wrong, Otee. And you got a black brother. That's what you, you partially was going to get into it, but you didn't want to get into it. You know what I'm saying? You got a whole 50% black brother, nigginsk that is mixing. A real little nigga that's your brother, so you should feel 100%. He should feel, a motherfucker to feel what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:53:03 What about this point? I ain't fucked up with you about saying, can you say, nigga, because you grew up with us, went through with all this shit with us. You loved us. You, you, you've been through everything that the nigga been through. So that's why you fight you say you can say, nigga. The problem and the issue is, is the fact when you say, nigger in a room full of women,
Starting point is 02:53:22 is there any black niggas in here? Is there any niggas in here? Well, if you, all right, well, if it is some niggas in here, What you're gonna do about it? That's where you fucked up at, brother. That's what a disrespect is. Because, O.T., you know, if you was in a room full of violent niggas from Houston full of violent niggas, niggas like myself, T.S.F.
Starting point is 02:53:41 Niggas, any niggas that's really from the age like there, and we was having that conversation and you said it in that way. Y'all said, because who's going to do shit about it? Niggil would have been six niggas in a room raising their hands saying they want to fight you. You know that. You know how this shit get down in Houston. You're a Texas crib. If a nigga come up to you and say,
Starting point is 02:53:58 say Mexican OT, you ain't no motherfucking crib. And what you're going to do about it? Niggin, you're going to want to fight about this. These niggas in the room going to say, who ain't? What, what squabble? That's where the disrespect and the fucked up part of his, because at the end of the day, nigga, you know there's none of but women in that room.
Starting point is 02:54:15 There's a bunch of girls in that room. It was a now violent street nigger that come from where you come from and been through what you've been through or that there's from somewhere else that has, that there's going to disagree with you and with that statement to the point of what else. fight you about there do something about that so therefore that's what people in the general public are going to take it like that's how shit because you're doing something in the sitting what people are going to consider it where it's safe to say that right then and right there
Starting point is 02:54:41 would you possibly say that around a room full of a bunch I ain't going to lie I think mexican old team is said in front of sauce like I'm going to be honest with you I really believe that the word the usage of the word people could tell if it has some racial meaning and nobody wants to officially say it and I get it, but a lot of, like, I'm on the Northeast, Hispanic say that word more than anything. Like, Hispanics usually say niggum more than niggas. I'm going to be honest with you. So, and usually people don't look at him odd for saying that.
Starting point is 02:55:21 You know, I think the word has kind of changed a bit. I do think, you know, it's always going to be a sore spot for a lot of pain and trauma for black people. But I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think people look at like a Mexican saying it or someone that's, you know, Latino or Latino saying it the same way as a white person. So I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 02:55:44 I don't think nothing would happen. If he's like, what up, my nigga? I don't think, I don't think sauce walk is like, yo, bro, stop. Don't ever say that to me again. I'm going to slap a shit out of you. Right? Because especially if he says it in a friendly and deering way.
Starting point is 02:55:54 And I think that's where sauce was trying to, he's trying to extract or extract like the part where maybe Mexican OT was kind of almost like puffing his chest out like man you know you know blabby in here all right man well who gonna stop me type shit no now I don't think that was the intent oh yeah may say man kid did di and so I don't think that was the intent I think there's another video of him talking about this too oh it's a longer video did an interview last night went to where they'll fight you about there do something about it so therefore that's what people in the general public are going to take it like that's whole shit because
Starting point is 02:56:30 doing something in the setting where people are going to consider it where it's safe to say that right then and right there would you possibly set it around a room full of a bunch of niggas though in this heated conversation now secondly aside of the mexicanotee shit i also blame these fucking blog sites these fucking interviewers these platforms why do y'all constantly eggs i know why y'all do y'all do for click for click views bait click bait all that all shit. But y'all got to stop asking motherfucking rappers and certain celebrities, these
Starting point is 02:57:02 uncomfortable questions and then be pissed off when you get the certain type of answer that you get. Or these artists respond in an uncomfortable way because they was asked an uncomfortable question when they really came in to promote their album. They really came in to talk about their career. They really came in to talk about positive
Starting point is 02:57:19 shit and y'all motherfuckers steady dumping and pushing negative questions. Nah, that's not no negative question. We listen to this guy I say nigg all through his music, and I think there's a reasonable question to be asked, hey, what's your comfortability with the word, right? Like, why do you say so freely in your music? No, no, I stand very different from sauce walker with that.
Starting point is 02:57:43 If you rap about crimes and murder, I'm sorry. If you get to an interview, it ain't time to talk about beats and rhymes, or beats and fucking bullshit. We're going to talk about exactly what you're rapping about. I hate this fact where you got to coddle these rappers, right? Like, I seen someone said, they were like, well, why would act ask a little dirk about, well, why is Lil Durk rapping about this shit? So he could rap about only one.
Starting point is 02:58:06 But when I say, well, what does this line meant? What does this mean? I'm the problem. Again, you're going to give people the substance of what to ask you. And I think it's a reasonable question. Yo, when we look at you, we don't really associate someone who would throw around that word to look like you what is your comfortability with the word it would give some context to inquiring minds
Starting point is 02:58:33 I don't think that's a problem I don't think that's a problem negative energy down the motherfucker though put them on the spotlight when they're trying to interview sped me so that's my motherfucker la sense on the shit because I ain't know and I still don't give a fuck but I'm gonna tell all I'm saying is everything's about love and respect when you do it and it's not out of love or you're trying to be too tough with the shit, then that's where it's wrong. You know what I'm saying? Because you got to earn that toughness, brother.
Starting point is 02:58:57 So, I'll tell you, bitch. I love you. If you mad at me, I don't give a fuck. I'm just telling the truth. And this one's real blood. Just like I say, all the other shit I said about niggas and messies and get on niggas' ass. I will get on your ass like I get on anybody ass. Bitch you wrong for that.
Starting point is 02:59:11 You wrong. The interviews is wrong for how they did it and chopped it up and only put that put out of there. Because you said a bunch of positive shit about black people after the fact. But it's the fact that you are a room full of four pussies, four women, four vaginas. And you said, you know there's no niggas up in there. And you said, what shit is in the niggins are wrong? Because if it's a real niggas, who's going to stop me? You can't say that like that, blood, because, nigger, you, nigger is boy.
Starting point is 02:59:33 Yeah, the niggas fight for nothing and niggas fight for less. Niggas do shit for less and do shit for nothing. So you know what I'm saying? You can't do that like that, brother. But other than that, who we, chicken and sauce out right now, get out my nigger O-T-D. You know what I'm saying? I know y'all ain't going to say shit. y'all can't check it y'all gotta do nothing but i will and i can and i ain't nobody gonna do shit to me
Starting point is 02:59:53 a week all right okay chalupa motherfucking me uh uh wet back food disrespect so i think this was an earlier video he did before he saw the full clip and i guess he was he was defending mexico's uh mexicans right to say certain things or use edward bitch-ass shit racism is racism no matter how you put it my nigger and if we're gonna talk about it. Niggas are the most disrespectful racist motherfuckers on earth. We hate ourselves, money, we hate anybody. Niggas wronged. Niggas.
Starting point is 03:00:29 Niggas steal from niggas. Niggas don't support niggas. Niggas don't help other niggas. Niggas see 10 niggas in the middle of the street, motherfuckin'clock getting eight by a motherfucking greezy bed and keep running. A white person to jump out and try to fight a Mexican and try to stab him. A nigger going to put out their thing. I hate when y'all make me do this shit.
Starting point is 03:00:48 Okay. Y' dumb-ass motherfuckers. are so dumb and brainwashed that y'all believe that racism is words instead of actions. Are you dumb? Let me teach you dumb motherfuckers what racism is in America. Racism is segregation and separation. What niggas do now? Hey man, you can't come to my hood because you ain't from this hood.
Starting point is 03:01:11 You can't hustle on my block because you ain't from this block. Oh, you've wrapped the wrong color, niggas. You ain't this, you can't come do this and that. niggas in about two miles take exit to d on the lot to merge into i399 opportunity from him i'm gonna rob him i'm gonna kill him because i don't want this nigger to be in my area that's what they used to do the niggas they used to hang niggas because they ain't want us on their streets they used to burn people houses and put crosses in their yard because they didn't want you in the neighborhood okay just like this and rat like
Starting point is 03:01:53 like I used to, but this one really be companionship or word of brotherhood and they fellowship and they all right. Hang on, my boy's just chatting. He's just chatting. Okay. Did Mexico T respond after that? I don't think he did and we'll just move right on along. All right, let me see.
Starting point is 03:02:25 What other topic can we touch on? All right, let's get back to the tweets real quick. We got to finish today. Okay, here we go. So remember this is a closing arguments by the prosecutor. They said they had an hour left, so they probably just wrapped. So we'll just read the rest of them, all right? Cool.
Starting point is 03:02:48 So Slavic says Capricorn had a son to provide for. Combs threatened to blacklister. Now with witness tampered and obstruction after Cassie filed her lawsuit, this weaves a whole story together. Jane wrote, you gaslit me. She posed a problem for the defendant, so Combs called Jane. The calls are recorded on KK's phone. You can listen to them.
Starting point is 03:03:06 On November 19th, Cassie's lawsuit was already settled, but he's afraid of a criminal investigation. He calls and asks, what can I do to make you feel better? He says, I can't be speaking on the phone. He's worried the U.S. will get the three years of text messages he has with Jane. While he's recorded the call, he tries to convince her to say she's willing. He says, we did some kinky shit. I thought we both enjoyed. So do you hear on the recorded call the sound of notes being taken with a Sharpie to plan how,
Starting point is 03:03:36 to get what they want Jane to say. You've seen this in the trial. The lawyers are passing notes to each other. Did you hear on the recorded calls the sound of notes taken with a Sharpie? To plan how they wanted to get Jane what to say. Okay, this is twice. Combs at DRock reach out to Mia,
Starting point is 03:03:54 asking her to say something. Mia told her, Mia told you her reaction to this call. She had seen the defendant bash Cassie's head in. Defend, a DRock had seen it too. He was asking her to agree with the lot. As a federal indictment or investigation grew, they kept reaching out to Mia. D-Rock calls her five times a row.
Starting point is 03:04:13 The charge shows Ms. Sankar presented to you brings this one together. And said, by the way, for this, the Combs family looked like this in the courtroom. They got the three girls. I think this is Mesa. No, this is Mesa. I don't know who these two are. And I think this is Christian Combs and this is, no, This is Christian and then this is Justin.
Starting point is 03:04:39 The defendant's conduct towards Mia is also obstruction and witness tampering. Also obstruction the video of the intercontinental assault. But assault is bribery, but also obstruction. Finally, the venue. We only have to show an act in this district. It doesn't have to be criminal. SNDDY includes Manhattan and the Bronx. Count two, the freakoffs were in Manhattan.
Starting point is 03:05:01 Count three, freakoffs, jewels to the London Hotel of Manhattan. Count four. Jane in Manhattan Slavic says you spent seven weeks listening a lot of evidence was hard to hear or see you heard from Kid Cuddy whose house was broken into
Starting point is 03:05:17 whose car was burned you heard from Regina Ventura Deontay Nash how he ran his enterprise with total control Slavic says it's now time to hold Didi accountable it's time to find him guilty we'll continue tomorrow jurors do not watch
Starting point is 03:05:33 or read anything about the case. So it looks like they rest. The arrest, it seems, adjourned. Okay. Okay. Interesting. Interesting. You don't want to miss it. It's on Wondry Plus.
Starting point is 03:05:58 For courts to be public and open to the public is a First Amendment right, freedom of press. And so I think that it's time for the federal government to allow cameras in the courtroom at this point. Yeah, it's just, I think it's beyond time. So it would be nice for that too, for a serious effort to be made on that front. Let's update you on our latest poll. Should Did these defense take a more emotional or factual approach in their final argument?
Starting point is 03:06:25 Factual, 46% say factual, stick to the evidence in the law. 36% say a mix of both. And 17% say emotional. They need to connect with the jury. So 511 people took part in that poll. So thanks for voting, everybody. Appreciate that. Let's go out now to Sierra Gillespie. She is outside the courthouse and see what she has to say and what she's seeing out there. Sierra, what's going on? Yeah, and Jeanette, court is out for the day. So, you know, we're hearing some music that is being played over there.
Starting point is 03:07:06 They're, you know, as people, as we were talking about before, they're yelling, they're making noise. People are coming in and out of the courtroom as they do. Our very own Elizabeth Milner is just hands stretch away from me right now. So make sure to tune into Sidebar later today and you can hear all of her updates. But I mean, it's just comings and going. It's kind of the end of the day of court. Nothing too wild. Nothing too wild. Did it seem like a lot of people coming out who were attending, like a lot of members of the public?
Starting point is 03:07:35 Was it a full courtroom in there today? I think it was. Yeah. And I know that they have an ongoing overflow room to. for when the entire courtroom is packed and, you know, all the gallery is filled. And then there is the overflow room. And I think that just shows how necessary it is based on the public interest here. The fact that they have ongoing overflow room there, just for people who are interested and weren't able to make it into the courtroom or aren't on the list.
Starting point is 03:08:01 So, yeah, it was a decent amount of people that were coming out and kind of finishing up for the day. You know, we have a question, Sierra, for you. You know, as a layperson, if you were in the day person, were in the jury or on the jury, would you be able to retain everything you heard in closings today and take that with you into defense closings tomorrow? How would you, how would you work that? That is a tricky question. And I've said this before and I'll say it again, I don't envy the jurors because they have a lot that they have to keep track of. I mean, their memory banks are really, really going to be working in overdrive. The fact that we've had these six weeks, seven weeks,
Starting point is 03:08:45 actually now that we're in, of testimony and exhibits and things like that. But the closings are really the culmination of all of it. And we've reported on it here on our live stream literally all day talking about the top moments that Slavic said were the most important. And so if I was one of the jury, a jury member, I think I would do my best, you know, before bed kind of closed my eyes and think, okay, what were the things that she talked about today? Just so that I can kind of compare and contrast because, of course, the defense tomorrow is what we're going to want to hear too. And that's really the jury's job, right, is to compare and contrast both of those things. And so they're not going to be able to remember everything. This was hours long. We've got breaks in between. It's not
Starting point is 03:09:22 like they have photographic memories. However, I do think the big things they're going to be able to keep up on. And also, I do want to mention tomorrow we'll be here for the defense, too. We're doing all of this coverage. I will be back here, you know, giving you the live updates as we have them, as well, Elizabeth Milner. And also, if you've liked what you've seen today, make sure to follow on my channel scandal and subscribe there where we talk about all sorts of celebrities, including P. Diddy, which I know you love to talk about too and Jeanette. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Everybody should subscribe to scandal. What do you think, Sierra, since you've been covering the case and reading the transcripts and all of that stuff,
Starting point is 03:09:57 what do you think the defense is going to focus on tomorrow? You know, I know, we know, because this has been their line from the very beginning, that they're going to focus on and hammer on the fact that they're going to say this was all consensual. So we will hear that. But what else do you think they're going to discuss? Oh, yeah, you hit the nail right on the head. The consent is all of this, right? Because that's really what it hinders on,
Starting point is 03:10:24 whether this was sex trafficking or rape or sexual assault. The consent is so important. And it's interesting. I think I kind of have to wind the clock back and take a look at the opening statements to really kind of see what the defense is going to talk about in their closings. And if I'm doing that,
Starting point is 03:10:40 I really think that what they're going to do is highlight the fact that, yes, he's a celebrity. He's a larger-than-life person, and he is charming, as some of the witnesses have sat on the stand. However, I think they got to address, you know, the elephant in the room that he wasn't always great, that he, you know, had all of these, allegedly, a legal incidence that he was involved in, or the fact that we have that intercontinental video, we have the text messages where he isn't necessarily saying the nicest things, or the voice notes that we heard. I mean, literally his voice saying some pretty bad things to some of these women who said on the sand that they loved him and they cared about him and had these relationships. So I do think going back to what the closings will be, it will be kind of similar to what we're hearing.
Starting point is 03:11:24 And we heard rather in the openings. You know, you might think that my client is a jerk, which is what Tenney Garago said, but he's not accused of being a jerk. He's accused of these more specific crimes. And I do think they're going to focus on the fact that this racketeering charges, is the one that is a big question mark for a lot of people. And that might be the one that he may be most likely to get off on. So I think they're going to talk about that and try to poke holes in the government's arguments as well. Well, we will be watching and we know you'll be out there and Elizabeth will be in the courtroom.
Starting point is 03:11:54 And we'll be back here. Same time and place tomorrow. Sierra Gillespie, thank you so much. Yeah, thanks, Ingenet. Great to be on with you. You too. All right, let's go back to our panel now for a potential acquittal. Wait what?
Starting point is 03:12:11 So by the way, we have completed I want to hear some He doesn't have to I do want to hear some more in court You know, their depiction of how that went Was it a good closing? I know obviously Sean G said it's boring But I don't know if this is for entertainment
Starting point is 03:12:29 This is supposed to be just to convince The law protects every defendant Who has a constitutional right not to testify And that the reason this jury must find the defendant not guilty is because the government didn't meet their burden, not because it's a he said, she said, and they didn't hear what he had to say. He doesn't have to say anything.
Starting point is 03:12:51 They need to prove their case. Based on that, if the defense does a good job, and I expect they will, I would expect that there would be some acquittals on some of the charges. However, there are some charges that no matter how well the defense does, I think the facts lead to a conviction, including providing transportation for prostitution,
Starting point is 03:13:14 that really I just don't see an argument against. Maybe jury nullification, if they really hate the government and are super into ditty, I don't see it going that way. So I think he is going to be convicted, but I think the defense does have room to work with some of the charges for a potential acquittal. Good stuff, Lorena. We have a question from Dr. Rose Nyako.
Starting point is 03:13:40 I will answer Dr. Rose's question. She asks, where is Elizabeth? Well, I will tell you, she is hanging out with Jesse Weber right now, and they are recording Sidebar. So she will give you all of the information about what happened inside court on Sidebar later tonight with Jesse. So look out for that on YouTube later. It will post later this evening. So don't have an exact time for you yet, but just keep your eyes peeled for that. Now I'm going to go to You, Soppa. What do you expect from the defense in closing? First, I have to say both of my co-councils here, they've done a phenomenal job. And I echo exactly what they've said.
Starting point is 03:14:20 I think that the defense during their closing, what we can expect, is a full-on attack on the racketeering charge. That's where they have the most to lose. And I think that that's where they're going to be spending a significant time educating the jury on how the government failed to prove each and every element of those offenses or one or however many elements of the offense beyond a reasonable doubt. I expect that they're going to educate the jury on how the government has to meet that burden. And I think they're going to take them back to jury selection. I guarantee you as the jury selection commence in what we call the voir dire process, that the
Starting point is 03:14:57 defense attorneys and even probably the prosecutor and the judge have said to these jurors, you know, do you understand that you have to follow the law? Do you understand that the judge will instruct you on the law? I guarantee you that the defense attorneys have absolutely. these potential jurors and the jurors that are now sitting in in the jury box, if my client makes an educated decision not to testify, will you hold that against him? And do you promise not to hold that against him? So all of those things, I think the defense is going to come back to remind the jurors of their obligations, of Mr. Combs' right to remain silent, of the fact
Starting point is 03:15:30 that they don't have to present any evidence or prove anything. And if the government fails to meet their burden, they must find Mr. Combs not guilty. And so honoring that obligation that the jury promised to do once it's time for them to go back and deliberate on the case. Great stuff. Everybody. It's been great hanging out with you guys. I want to update everybody on our latest poll. Do you think the jury will connect with Mark Agnifalo over the other defense attorneys? Yes, smart choice. 50%. We've got a split result here. 50% say yes, smart choice. Forty nine percent say no, another defense attorney. I'm actually. a little surprised. We don't have time to debate it. I'm a little surprised based on what I was hearing from inside court that they didn't choose Brian Steele because I heard that the jury, a lot of the jurors
Starting point is 03:16:20 really liked Brian Steele. But that was our latest poll, 294 votes. Thanks everybody for voting. A couple of things I do want to tell you guys about tomorrow. We're going to have full coverage tomorrow. So join us starting at 9 a.m. I also want to tell you about our latest podcast. on the Sean Combs case. You don't want to miss it. It's on Wondry Plus. This is the second season of long crimes, The Rise and Fall of Ditty.
Starting point is 03:16:50 It's hosted by... All right. I don't think Logic has been in court this entire time. He's following another case right now. Her attorney... Is she in court? Can't find nobody who's in court. Who else?
Starting point is 03:17:40 Other than that is just Sean G. Sean G's like been the pretty much the most Reliable person Speaking of which I wonder what Gina's been Yeah we eventually got to get an explanation Of um Oh here we go Argument should be captivated
Starting point is 03:18:06 I've had Pat smears more interesting And to your point Everybody doesn't have to be a Johnny Potter You're not expecting that But I do think they probably Probably could have gotten someone that had a little more Poseidaz. Exactly.
Starting point is 03:18:21 Yeah. And Jaycard is an attorney as well. Yes, yes. Your face where? Hosts of the Black Lewis podcast. I like that between. Give me one second. And they're closing, but they're going to get the jury instruction and they will have those to walk them through as she did.
Starting point is 03:18:40 Yeah. Yes. So she walked us through Rico, sex trafficking. And then she all. also walked us through transportation of the purpose of prostitution yeah and then she closed out with some additional theories with regard so she started off with bribery and then she closed out with which was interesting because a bribery I think was a good place to start because it was so clear yeah right there's no
Starting point is 03:19:09 she talked to throw in at the end she talked to throw in at the end forced labor oh yeah which I think was still kind of a stretch let's that's about forced labor, right? And witness tampering and sex trafficking obstruction. So she had essentially four theories. Because remember, even though she talked about arson and cataping towards the end, the instructions say don't include those things in your thoughts about RICO. Focus on forced labor, witness tampering, sex trafficking, and the bribery.
Starting point is 03:19:41 Because I guess those are the stronger ones. Yeah, those are the strongest. They can't really prove that he burned kids. Yeah, we can't really prove that they kidnapped. Capricorn Park. So they still mentioned in the closing, but in the instructions. And this is where it was confusing yesterday. This is why people thought the charges had been dropped.
Starting point is 03:20:03 It's not so much they've been dropped. They've been dropped from the instructions, but no actual charge. Correct. So the facts were still, she, they referenced the facts. They referenced the facts of those things, especially. So I would say, which was forced labor, because we can kind of Yeah, yeah, let's go through the week. Force labor.
Starting point is 03:20:25 The forced labor, Mia was one of the people they claimed supported the forced labor. Mia's the one who alleged that she was essayed by Diddy. Issue is if you don't believe she was essayed by Diddy, it makes it difficult for you to find she was forced labor. They also tried to say she was required to work without sleep. You're working in the entertainment industry. Yeah, that's true. Even a lawyer could say the big law firms require us to not sleep, right? you know work all the time is that really for slavery if you're getting paid I don't think
Starting point is 03:20:55 that's a strong argument they shouldn't have used me up for forced labor I think that was a very bad example then they went on to Capricorn Clark who they said was not paid over time yeah they talked about the kidnapping of her right they said no no over time for her they talked about how she was kidnapped and that all of that went into the poor slavery but I still don't think that mean the element of forced labor. Even if I'm kidnapped, that's not forced labor. That's not forced labor. I just like you got to match the element up with the crimes.
Starting point is 03:21:23 I don't think, I think we can agree. Me and Capricorn were not good examples of forced labor. Correct. And then the other bad example I thought was dog bomb Jane. Okay. Jane was supposed to be, well, Jane was supposed to be forced labor. Well, they're saying that Jane and Cassie did the same thing. So Cassie makes a little more sense for at least Cassie was signed.
Starting point is 03:21:45 Okay, okay, so she was an employee. Oh, that's right. Versus Jane being his girlfriend. There's no, there's no, there's no boss, uh, employee relationship. Correct. But, but before slavery, do you have to have a boss employee relationship for it to be forced labor? It doesn't have to be boss, but it does have to be some type of a working relationship.
Starting point is 03:22:05 Oh, okay. Then no. So that's a bad example. So really the only, the best example they had, I think you can conclude, was Cassie. Yeah. that she was signed his label as a music artist, but instead was forced to do, you know, these hotel nice and so forth. Like that was her forced labor. Like instead of her laboring in the studio, release the music, which she did those.
Starting point is 03:22:29 I don't know. I don't mean she was trying to go. She was saying it or not you heard that at the top. But she was like, when she recorded all these albums, but she never got to release it. And he always got her release one mixtape, a 2013 mixtape. I'm like, I don't even remember that mixtape. Oh, yeah, they talked about that in court. Yeah, they were like, yeah, that she could.
Starting point is 03:22:48 So basically, instead of, as an employee, producing music, she was producing these sex performance nights that we know as free. So, so, yes, I'll give them maybe Cassie, but at the most, that's all they have for the course movie. Yeah. Also, let's talk about the witness tampering and obstruction. That was kind of brought together. So those were the other theories of Rico that she closed.
Starting point is 03:23:14 got with in the summary. So witness tampering, they're basically saying if you persuade someone that could be a witness to a crime was per se. That would be reported to a federal, not not state, but it has to be a federal officer. If you're trying to influence their communications or what they think about the situation or what they would say, then that's tampering. They basically here's a problem. Let's give them to example. The day Jane and they gave. And they gave. Jane and Mia were the witness tampering. For the witness scampering, I actually thought it would also be hotel workers. I've been talking about that.
Starting point is 03:23:56 But the hotel workers in that video, they actually say those towards obstruction of S trafficking. Because they said that fight that occurred, you know, that was during a freakoff. So that that was part of obstruction. So it goes together. The witness having an obstruction. Witnessed Cambridd obstruction are like the same charge. So, but I think basically it makes, I thought tampering with witness would be a lot easier to prove. But when they added the caveat that it has to be something that's going to be reported to a federal officer.
Starting point is 03:24:28 I thought that was interesting because I didn't know it had to be. I guess it's a federal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that was, how do you know that someone's going to report tempting federally? Right.
Starting point is 03:24:37 I think it's a stretch. I think it's a stretch that when he was calling just a, to make sure he was crossing his teeth and died in his eyes, but he thought that this could be a federal case. I don't even think he was going that far in his mind. And I think that that should speak to intent. Yes. A lot of these crimes have got to be intent.
Starting point is 03:24:59 I think the problem- Attent to commit a crime. Intent to commit a crime. I think a lot of what the jury is gonna struggle with was did he intending certain things when he was doing things? Like, who were- I think he was always intent. Because he was always trying to stay out of jail.
Starting point is 03:25:13 Yeah, I mean, I would want to stay out of jail. too. I just don't know how, I don't know. It's all about, what can you? And also though, y'all, I thought it was ridiculous. I'm going to tell you this. I thought it was ridiculous that the prosecution is trying to claim witness tampering was him calling Jane after the fact, after the Cassie's lawsuit. Yeah. He was audio recording the call where he was like, I really need your friendship. Yeah. So KK recorded. So soon as Cassie's lawsuit dropped, I thought this was in interesting. Did he called obviously Jane who read the lawsuit was very upset and he had KK record the Colts. Yep. Yeah. Where he was like, well, you know I need your friendship and you know
Starting point is 03:25:57 a lot of things. He was clearly trying to get Jane to say certain things. Right. He was like, well, you know we were just doing freaky stuff, right? Right. Like, yes. But she wouldn't, she wouldn't, she wouldn't agree with him on the phone. So it didn't, it didn't, it didn't, it didn't, it didn't feel the purpose of the cold because I just thought the witness tampering would have been stronger than you calling your girlfriend whose bills you're still paying. They also imply that him paying her bills and continuing to pay her bills was part of the tampering and the obstruction. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 03:26:27 I feel like at the end of the day and I think you probably have already talked about this love contract, there was an exchange for services, okay? So I do this, you do that. And I think that is why just overall, Jane is not a strong witness for the prosecution. Because she literally used the word, I entered a love contract. The time was years ago. Right. The fact that she entered into a contract, you know, it's like, you know what Drake said. You know, you know what it was when you signed up. There you got to back it up, you know, right? That's hilarious. Right. So why don't we think were the strongest.
Starting point is 03:27:12 Definitely the hookers. I've been talking about that. Yeah. The hookers, I feel like they got that down. And that supported sex check. Yes, so that is their biggest extra. Oh, ex-trapping. Yeah. So it was too full. Remember, it's transportation for interstate hookers. And then it's also supportive of the ex-traffing.
Starting point is 03:27:35 Those, I definitely feel like the prostitution charge, just as a stand-alone charge, as well as up underneath RICO, they got that one. They got that. Yeah, that was probably the easiest one for them to establish the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, transportation of prostitution. That's going to be the easiest one for them. Mainly because there are receipts, right? Yeah. So we can't prove when the cash was issued. Is this audio? Was it that bad? Now, where's my man Joe Taco Pino when I need him? I want to interview him, by the way. Joe Taco Pee. Oh, yeah, he did turn down
Starting point is 03:28:48 Did he being a client? Hold on. All right, let's see. Well, you were offered to take on Diddy as a client. you showed him down. You know, look, I didn't turn him down because I don't like him or I don't believe in this case. I think he's got a very defensible case. I talked to Harvey on TMZ. To me, this whole case boils down to an issue of consent, right? As far as I know, I don't know all the evidence, but it's an issue of consent, right?
Starting point is 03:29:30 Did they consent or did they not? I mean, was it gun with someone's head or did they want to do because they were getting all the perks associated with being part of a Diddy party and being one of Diddy's entourage, right? Did he buy him a house or cars and stuff? He didn't have to buy anyone a car or a house. If he did it and part of that was they came to these parties, that was consensual, right? They could have said, no, I'm looking at those parties. It means you're not going to pay for my car?
Starting point is 03:30:00 Screw you. Don't pay for my car. You know, I haven't heard anything. Because I read the bail hearing minutes from the prosecution where they argued. I'm like, that's it? That's the case? I mean, I just, you know, I think people are quick to jump to conclusions. Obviously, there's a lot of people, a lot of witnesses.
Starting point is 03:30:19 But I, you know, and I've said this on Harvey's documentary on TMZ, I said, I don't think we should be counting him out just about yet. So my turning it down was because I had rocky straw coming up, you know, and a host of other things. So it's not about, I don't think he's innocent or I don't. like him or I thought that. It's not that at all. It was just timing for me. It really was more about timing than anything. Oh, that's pretty interesting. I know, so Drew Finland, he said he had some conversations about joining on Diddy's defense team. He said he turned it down because he felt it was going to be too much chefs in the kitchen, right? And because it was going to be too much chefs in the kitchen, you know, he likes cases that, you know, he could kind of run the show,
Starting point is 03:31:03 and clearly the show is being ran already by somebody else who's Mark Hygnecophilia. So he kind of turned it down. Look like Taco Pino was at least talked to about it and he turned it down basically because of timing. All right, we got Lauren in here. Day 30. By the way, I think I might sit with her this weekend. Let me see what she said. I might sit with her this weekend. I ain't a lot of you. I've been watching her for like Madloom. She says, oh, she says next weekend. Ain't that July 4th? Oh yeah, that's July 4th. Yeah. All right. I'll figure. anyway she's going to give us an update what do you i think she leans you think she leans like fuck ditty you know i mean i usually think if it's a woman she probably if she's in court she's seen
Starting point is 03:32:19 the crime she probably leans a little bit in the favor of ditty's a piece of shit i'm not going to be here trying to make him look good or if he goes to jail i don't give a fuck right so maybe they're reporting will be that way but i think she's been kind of fair right i think she's kind of been fair Unk is definitely pro-Diddy. I think actually logic is a fairest. Logic is fairs. Law and crimes, I could tell they're on some fuck-ddy shit. Fuck that, man.
Starting point is 03:32:46 The United States versus Sean Combs, the government's closing arguments, they just finished. And we were supposed to get out at three. And now it's almost 5 o'clock. So they went a little bit over. But I want to go into detail, into a little more detail. I know I gave a little bit of detail this morning. but I want to elaborate on some things just from the morning. So, Attorney Slavic, she went over the five counts, the RICO, the two counts of sex trafficking,
Starting point is 03:33:18 and the two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution. And she actually did a lot of overlap with the RICO, the sex trafficking, and the transportation to engage as it points to RICO under the... the predicate acts. So I know that sounds confusing, but what I'm trying to explain is she listed a bunch of predicate acts under RICO, which I read earlier, and I will read again. And then she tied the separate charges to those acts as well, but made sure to clarify that, oh, these, you know, these are not just under RICO, these are also separate. So just to go back to that, it was the Crimes under RICO. And again, one of the predicates for that is that the defendant has to act knowingly.
Starting point is 03:34:08 And that is drug distribution, kidnapping, arson, bribery, sex trafficking, interstate commerce, and forced labor, and witness tampering. Let me count that up again. And again, one of the predicates for that is that the defendant has to act knowingly. And that is drug distribution, kidnapping, arson, bribery, sex trafficking, interstate commerce and forced labor and witness tampering. And again, you only need to find the defendant guilty of two of those predicate acts to get a guilty RICO verdict. So she brought up the mafia and she said, you know, you've heard about racketeering because of the mafia, but in this case, it's simple. It's when someone commits a crime with an enterprise and an enterprise that works for
Starting point is 03:35:00 them and this makes them more dangerous. And she actually said that the enterprise doesn't always have to want to do these crimes. They don't always have to know about these crimes. But if they are partaking and doing all this, then that is an enterprise. So, and also the four elements with, Rico, she talked about is conspiracy or agreement to participate in the enterprise, the fact that it affected interstate commerce, and they knowingly became a member of this conspiracy, and that the agreed members of the conspiracy would commit criminal acts. Let's see. She called Diddy's employees loyal lieutenants and also foot soldiers.
Starting point is 03:35:50 She showed us pictures of the security team of Roger Bonds, DRock, Rube. but those were like the main guys and Fahim. And then she showed us all of the assistance throughout the years. So, and these were his loyal foot soldiers. And I think I talked about the distribution of drugs this morning and how she made sure to say, yeah, it doesn't matter the amount. It doesn't matter if he sold them or paid for them or, I'm sorry, sold them or, you know, made people pay for them.
Starting point is 03:36:21 If he distributed them, which he did to Cassie and Jane and some of the assistants, this counts as distribution and you know we we have satisfied the you know we have satisfied this charge because this he did and let's see and she showed you know text messages and then parts of transcripts where the assistant said they took drugs and as well as Cassie and Jane we talked about the or did I don't remember at this point um she talked about how the kidnappings were satisfied under Rico um with Cassie and the London Hotel. So we get to figure out.
Starting point is 03:36:59 We get to figure out. Yeah, y'all ain't shit. I'm going to read that donation in a second. Somebody said, yo, act, you turned down the shack fade. Now he got you out here wearing his merch. Hey, so it appears, which is kind of odd, right? Like, what the government said they took off the table? They didn't really take off the table?
Starting point is 03:37:29 they took off instructions for it off the table or a theory they were pursuing but it's still on the it's kind of confusing to me like i think they did that they said they did that to make less confusion and i'm more confused not granted i'm not a juror but i'm more confused and uh she know she also showed the transcript of cassie talking about being beat prior to going to the london hotel and uh the fact that bonds wouldn't let her leave and then the second kidnapping was Capricorn Clark and the lie detector and how the polygraph said if you fail, they're going to throw you in the East River. So that was part of the threats or the force. And then the 2011 Kid Cuddy night or the trespassing night, sorry my hair, was the third
Starting point is 03:38:19 kidnapping event for Capricorn Clark. And then obviously the arson, he talked about how Kid Cuddy's car was blown up. And basically she said the word coincidence a lot for this one. She was like, oh, it's such a coincidence that Diddy talk to Cassie about blowing up kids' cutty's car and then all of a sudden it did get blown up. And then the bribery aspect. She said that was met through Eddie Garcia and KK. D. Rock. They help with that. And then we got into the sex trafficking. And she, again, she tied this to Count 1, Rico, but also Count 2 and Count 4, which was Cassie and Jane. So, um, she said that it relates.
Starting point is 03:39:02 Yeah, it's the overlap charge. It's the sex trafficking thing. It's in the RICO, but it's also count three and five, I believe. It's to the sex trafficking relates. No, no, two and four, two and four things. It's two hotel nights and freakoffs using force, fraud, and coercion. And, um, it's part of the RICO because his employees help facilitate these nights by getting the entertainers at times and setting up the hotels and, and whatever.
Starting point is 03:39:28 Oh, and then we were shown pictures of 27 escorts. Oh, and she also said, I'm not asking you to find every single freakoff or hotel night a crime because the element here can be met with just one time. And I said that to you guys earlier. So let's see. And she went through like Jane first, basically the stages of how he groomed her and love bombed her into doing this. and then the aftermath, texts from Jane, how she became more resistant, and then he had coerced her through, they said he coerced her through jewelry and money and gifts and travel.
Starting point is 03:40:08 And they brought up the fraud, which was the New York trip in September of 2023 where she said she didn't want to do freakoffs. And he said, you don't have to. She gets on a plane. And while he's texting her, he's texting escorts or entertainers and Cowboys for Angels at the same time, saying that. that is fraud. Let's see. And then, yeah, then we got to Cassie, which, which took a while. Oh, and he also, they focused on the three, actually, it wasn't just that September 23 for Jane. It was October of 2023, the quote, sobriety party, um, where she vomited between escort two and three, and he told her to get back out there. And then, of course, June of 2024, when they got in the physical fight. And then he after, he told her to.
Starting point is 03:40:56 take a pill and said, get out there and do whatever you got to do. I don't care if you FM S is D, just do it. And then he looked at her and said, is this coercion? And she brought up, he knew what was going on at that point. And he used that word. So let's see. And then, yes, so Cassie, that was a lot more, that was a lot more detailed going over the elements for Cassie talking about how, you know, they had a roadmap to their relationship. She said that there was, The early stages, the abuse, the end of the relationship, and then the freakoffs. That's how she categorized everything. And then we saw a lot of Cassie's quotes from being on the stand.
Starting point is 03:41:37 He chose what was next for me, basically. He controlled every part of my life. David James quoting that Diddy said she was moldable. And then, you know, Slavic would say, they want you to call this DV, but it wasn't. He beat her before the freakoffs during some times and after. So, and then we thought a lot of Dr. Hughes's written testimony as well as to why, you know, she didn't leave. And let's see, let's see. Oh, and then they saw the whole video of the Intercontinental Hotel. And yeah, that was just in detail. And let's see. Okay. Oh, and then we saw three instances they focused on for Cassie.
Starting point is 03:42:20 And that was the Intercontinental Hotel, the Cannes Film Festival. where she he was showing her videos on the way home on the plane to New York and and he was doing in front of other people and then she was forced to do a freak off when she landed in New York and then let's see oh and then you know she talked about why you know the defense is gonna say that Cassie was made an adult choice to say but everything I just showed you is why she couldn't make an adult choice this was her life blah blah blah And then we talked about counts three and five.
Starting point is 03:43:00 She went into detail the interstate transport for prostitution. We saw records again. We saw text. That was pretty cut and dry. And she didn't say, oh, you want to see more? Well, I've got plenty of examples. And then she showed us. And then she talked about...
Starting point is 03:43:14 By the way, there are... Day 30. Sorry. There are videos of Diddy's family showing up to the courthouse today. Here we go. Wow. they post this much maybe it's on the reels it's on the reals yeah here looking fabulous okay this is quincy taylor uh quincy um just in is it quincy connor okay
Starting point is 03:44:27 about forced labor and she said that actually um the forced labor goes to sexual services as well so she's Also, Jane Doe was finally spotted out and about. Did he pay for these titties? Or what? I ain't going to lie, gang. She won't sound fucked up, but look like she looked kind of freak off ready. I ain't going to hold you. I ain't going to hold you.
Starting point is 03:45:06 I ain't going to hold you. Now, you think 50 going to spin back on this? I know she's been exposed as pretty much a dirty smut. But come on now. She's a fine specimen, though. She's a fine specimen. I think 50 going to spin back? 50 just can't kiss her in the mouth.
Starting point is 03:45:34 You know one of them ones? You just can't kiss her in the mouth. Every time she goes for the kiss, you just go like this. You get the cheek, the lower chin, but you just can't, you can't, you can't, you can't,
Starting point is 03:45:45 nah. Okay. She cited Mia, Cassie, Jane, and then Capricorn Clark because Capricorn Clark did not get her overtime. And also, they talked about witness tampering and obstruction
Starting point is 03:46:02 for another element of RICO. That was the, last element and that was directly to jane and mea because of the way that diddy recorded phone calls with jane after cassie's lawsuit and he um tried to gaslight her and get her not to talk and then d'i rock contacting mea at ditty's directive and i'm gonna get cut off but um for 10 minutes but venue that's very important each okay also this is the family leaving court and you could tell the fanfare has ramped up. Remember,
Starting point is 03:46:40 died down for a little because we're getting boring and shit. But now, verdict is nearing. This is how it look when they walked out of court. Justin, let me get a kiss.
Starting point is 03:46:51 Justin, let me get a kiss. What? Let me get a kiss. Justin. Can I get a peeve on? Let me get pee on. Let me get pee on. I want to get paid on.
Starting point is 03:47:07 This is crazy. I want to get peed on. This is crazy. Chill, man. Where the baby oil? Bonnie, chill. Where the baby oil? I want to get pee on.
Starting point is 03:47:17 What are baby oil? O-O-T-A-O-N-G-O-U-U-T. Is that Jennifer Lopez? Yeah, man, they got to pass by now. Jay-O-J-O-L-A. Hey mama, Mama, what a friend off that? Where the baby oil? I want to get peed on.
Starting point is 03:47:35 My mama comes up. My mama comes up. Love you. This is crazy. I want to get peat on. I want to get paid on. With a baby oil. Hey, Mama Cohn.
Starting point is 03:47:53 Mama Cones. Can I get some money? Can I get some money? And then I don't want to get peed on. And then I don't want to get peed on. That's my money. Nah, this is getting out of here, chat. This is getting out of hand.
Starting point is 03:48:07 This is getting out of hand. Yeah, this scene is wow. Okay. Also, Taka Pina, speaking about the civil cases. I was involved in that as well. Well, I actually interviewed Tom Messero about this. Great guy. Yeah, great guy.
Starting point is 03:48:36 Legendary lawyer. Absolutely of a legend. And he even said something similar to what you said, which was one of Michael Jackson's biggest mistakes in his life was settling with the first alleged victim. which opened up a floodgate to everyone else suing him. Yep, you got it. Look, it's the same thing that happened to P. Diddy in New York, okay? You settle one case, and it becomes public. Basically, you put up a sign over your head saying ATM machine, open for business.
Starting point is 03:49:07 You cannot, look, if an allegation is made it, Michael was interested in that case where he was found not guilty. Believe me, that was a case that should never have been brought. You had people there who clearly were out for money. Putting that aside, you had a case where you had a civil settlement that was made. The only reason you settled a case like that is to keep it quiet, to keep it on the wraps, to keep it from becoming public. That's the leverage. Look, I've represented people on both sides of those fences.
Starting point is 03:49:36 I've represented plaintiffs in those cases. I've represented defendants in those cases. Potential defendants. Well, when I'm representing a plaintiff in those cases, I don't threaten it because it's extraordinary. It's illegal, but I do point out that if we have to file this, you understand the ramifications are going to be red ink and the world headlines, not because I'm going to generate them because they're going to read the file. And your client is a very well-known individual.
Starting point is 03:50:00 So let's not kid ourselves. You understand what the ramifications of filing this will be. Not just our lawsuit, all the collateral damage that will be done, right? And so if you're going to have a case like that, you settle it, but it has to be done with confidentiality agreements that have clause on it. pierce a piece of steel. If you don't have a confidentiality agreement before you settle it, or you settle it with a loose confidentiality agreement, I wouldn't settle that you have to fight. You have to. I mean, what happened with Diddy was, and I don't blame Diddy, I blame the lawyers,
Starting point is 03:50:32 because what happened there was insane. It was the worst of both worlds. Everyone loved Diddy. I mean, not everyone, but people who want to be at Diddy parties, all this stuff. his ex-girlfriend, Cassie, had a lawyer, and she decided, you know, 15, 20 years ago, I really liked what I was doing. I didn't really want to do. You made me do it all, okay? And Brent to sue. There was a negotiation.
Starting point is 03:50:57 Apparently the negotiation did not, you know, ever amount to a resolution, a settlement. Cassie sued. When she filed the lawsuit, Red Ink and the world headlines next day, right? Of course. what happened after that is perplexing. The case was settled within one day. One day. That was maybe the worst scenario you could ever have
Starting point is 03:51:21 anywhere in the world. So you force a lawsuit to be filed where you're going to be named basically a sexual predator and it's all in all the press. Now you have to defend that. And then a day later, not two years later at the eve of trial, a day later you settle. You give her money.
Starting point is 03:51:41 which, you know, people understand that, you know, we understand that when you settle the case doesn't mean you're admitting guilt. But to the average person, when someone makes a claim against you sexual assault, whatever, and you say, okay, here, I'll settle with you, I'll give you money. That's because you did it. So that was, in 48 hours, he went from Diddy, like, you know, one of the most successful, you know, people in that industry, to Diddy? sexual assault er, a brutalizer, and he's willing to pay money if you make a claim. Boom! There go the doors of the barn open wide. All of a sudden, people who had never had an issue with P. Diddy before love being a P. Diddy's
Starting point is 03:52:28 parties. Banged to be a P. Diddy's parties. All of a sudden, they got lawyers and they said, me too. Me too. I didn't really want to do that either. Me too, me to, me too, me to, me too. But how come none of them ever came forward before that? How come none of them went to the police?
Starting point is 03:52:42 None. They saw Cassie do it. She sued. She got money. Wow. Boom. I mean, that's why I was baffled by that tactic, that strategy. If you're going to settle, settle before it becomes public.
Starting point is 03:52:57 And Michael's too. Johnny said that to me. Johnny said he told Michael Jackson, you become an ATM machine if you settle. That was his words. You become an ATM machine if you settle one. these claims because they're all could be coming at you and don't never settle.
Starting point is 03:53:11 He settled one and sort of led to all these other problems. I wonder if Diddy doesn't settle, does he get sued or does he get criminally charged? Because remember the feds admitted that they used Lil Rod's case to help them
Starting point is 03:53:27 get the search warrant to search his crib. So Lil Rod, who was at Two Star Island producing music, he was able to tell the Feds, yo, that's where, you know, go in that room, that's where it's the security room. And he videotape everything. He'd be having a bag?
Starting point is 03:53:47 I think that's where he'd be having all the drugs. And they use that because apparently, and Shazwa, man, Myron, who put me on game about this, to search someone house, like, they couldn't use, like, say, Cassie. Like, I don't even know if he owned Two Star Island when he was doing Cassie, but he probably did. he couldn't have used they couldn't have used Cassie's knowledge to get that search warrant
Starting point is 03:54:12 why? It's been too long since Cassie's been there. So if Cassie described something that they would be going in for because we were going to someone's house it really takes an extreme burden of you know,
Starting point is 03:54:26 it's extremely invasive it's you're violating or you know you're putting a whole someone's Fourth Amendment right which is the right to one lawful seizure. so you're doing a lawful seizure and a lawful search, but you can't have somebody like, oh, I was there like 10 years ago,
Starting point is 03:54:43 and I remember, I think it's over there by the nightstand. No, you can't do it. It has to be somebody who's been in the house recently and could really be like, okay, when you go in, go upstairs, go this way, and that's where it is. And it was there as of maybe like a week or two ago, right? So it's one of those things. I really like, I don't allow you, man.
Starting point is 03:55:05 Taco peanut. And I have like a group of favorite lawyers. I want to interview him so bad. What else? Anything else he had to say on the ditty thing? You turn it down. Settling was bad. Okay.
Starting point is 03:55:43 I've seen another Vlad thing. You know, Vlad is so good to roll now clips. All of the clips is like bad current, right? Look, he has this schedule for Roger Bonds is dropping. he had Judge Mathis and Judge Mathis is saying what crimes did he should be found guilty of it.
Starting point is 03:56:03 That's interesting. What happened to the jury? Well, since there's no state crime being involved, which is where all the criminal activity, the assaults on women, the arson, all that occurred, that state. And this federal crime, this RICO crime, I believe that thus far all they've proven
Starting point is 03:56:22 And then they rested. They rested their case. I think they only proved the man act. And that is flying interstate transportation for prostitutes. Perhaps drug use, drug possession, based on all the witnesses that have said they brought drugs from across state lines. If the deliverer of the drugs in which I think there's an admission that the drugs were brought. from state lines, cross state lines, then it becomes federal. And in that case, possession, in my opinion, not distribution.
Starting point is 03:57:00 Well, I don't think that's actually a charge. The charges are the RICO and then sex trafficking and prostitution. Well, there you have it. All I hear then is prostitution, interstate transfer of prostitutes. Right. But at the end of the day, and I've interviewed one of the male escorts, Punisher, And, well, number one, he was not trafficked. You know, he was just paid.
Starting point is 03:57:25 He was already living in New York. He would go about a dozen times meet with them and have their free costs and so forth. I asked him, do you feel like you were trafficked? He said, absolutely not. Well, see, there's different things. You've got trafficking and then you got interstate transfer of prostitutes. Right. And so trafficking, yes, he wasn't, but he was a prostitute that crossed state lines and received monies.
Starting point is 03:57:45 And that's what I think he will be found guilty of. That's perhaps the only federal crime. I think he should be found guilty of, but it's certainly... We're all coming to the same conclusions here, Chad. I know we might sound like an echo chamber. We covered the trial for like hours at a time. You know, all the facts are laid on the table. We've talked about this at nauseam at this point.
Starting point is 03:58:07 So if you do hear echo chambers, I'm trying to get other people to weigh in people who I think have, you know, obviously way more experience in the legal system or have a legal background that's obviously greater in mind. He's a judge. and it feels like a lot of people are agreeing with me. Prostitution charge looks like it's proven. That's count three, count five.
Starting point is 03:58:29 That's where the man act falls under. Okay, prostitution. Sex trafficking under this statute is kind of also the man act, but it's different. But the prostitution thing, we all agree. Which here's the thing. The defense has to do this good job tomorrow. They got to do a great job overall. But if we're thinking that they're going to get,
Starting point is 03:59:03 if any conviction or the easiest conviction is going to be for interstate transfer of prostitutes, they're going to have to argue Did he never hired prostitutes? He hired them for being escorts. And in their time spent with Dini, if they wanted to have sex, they could. Now, that's a hard sell because the women involved all said these guys are basically prostitutes. And the guys themselves, like they would normally say, even the Shire guy who he said, like, he didn't feel like he was traffic. But he admitted, he said, the first time he didn't have sex, but after every other time he had sex. So they're all basically
Starting point is 03:59:51 And they all said that Based on the performance of their sex They would get paid more So at that point is like They're fucking prostitutes bro So I don't know how they're going to get over this escort idea tomorrow But they have to To try to get him not convicted on those two charges
Starting point is 04:00:09 It doesn't amount to RICO The things that they've attempted to prove They did not prove enough To connect it to a RICO case. a continuing criminal enterprise. I totally agree on that. I think the RICO is just ridiculous. I mean, obviously,
Starting point is 04:00:28 Bad Boy is not a mafia organization. Correct. That's just, you know, like trying to present to the world that it's a real company, but really they're like extorting and, you know, trafficking drugs. It's a real company. That's exactly what they're trying to suggest. Yeah, which is ridiculous.
Starting point is 04:00:44 I think they're going back to the kids down in Atlanta, That, by the way, they were exonerated, I believe, one or two of them. YSL case. Yeah, YSL case where, yeah, their company was actively allegedly. BMF was a drug business. We all know this. It is what it is. It is what it is.
Starting point is 04:01:03 It is what it is. Yeah, but bad boy, Sirac, no. Sean John, these are actual real companies. Absolutely. And it just so happened that the owner of the company was a free. Was a free. And a dope thing.
Starting point is 04:01:16 And, you know, it was a dope thing. Oh, by the way, it's hat. not to like interrupt but of course of course I asked Drake for the song you know I'm trying to get you out of the leaks over here yeah this is a lot yeah this is a song I heard it was pretty good um
Starting point is 04:01:41 Drake said this song ain't never coming out so because I told him like yo remember you Because he had told me he was going to send me the song. And he's like, this shit, it ain't never coming out. I don't know why, right? Why y'all think?
Starting point is 04:01:56 But, yeah, it's never coming up. Or maybe it comes out. It'll probably get leaked. But it's not going to get leaked through Drake's side. Right? And if Drake had gave me the song, I wouldn't tell you what he just said, right? I would just act like, ooh, it's just mysterious he got leaked.
Starting point is 04:02:12 So now it's all on Cardi. Cardi, you got to leak it. You are swamp iso. Okay? Either one of them got to leak the song or we don't know, you know? Anyway. No, train. He likes getting his assistance, you know.
Starting point is 04:02:26 Yo, I think Drake really on his, what do you call it again? Yo, Drake really on is like, you know, I'm cool off of all of these guys shit. Yo, I think Drake is on some shit, bro. I think Drake is on some shit. Get hotel rooms and so forth. But listen, I got a bunch of employees. Oh, and I know why it probably wouldn't come out. Because wasn't, yeah, Cardi didn't fucking.
Starting point is 04:02:52 cleared a thing. Wasn't he one of the jerk songs? Yeah, he was on one of Drake's songs. He can't clear it. Right. If I tell my assistant to go book a... No face. It was no face. Hotel room for me, and I engaged all types of weird freakiness in there. He can't be charged for it. And he can't, I can't say that he was part of this conspiracy. You know, he just booked a hotel room.
Starting point is 04:03:11 Listen to you. A little bootleg lawyer. That's right. Boot leg lawyer. Let me ask you a question. Because the charges are racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking by forced fraud and coercion, and then transportation to engage in prostitution. What exactly is the difference between the sex trafficking by force fraud or coercion and transportation
Starting point is 04:03:28 to engage in prostitution? Seems like it's almost the same thing. Not really, because sex trafficking is essentially, that's the coercion where you're coercing a woman to... Yeah, one's consensual, one's non-consensual. A prostitute consents. They just are getting paid for sex, which is still illegal.
Starting point is 04:03:49 Sex trafficking means that the victim, is not consenting or is unable to consent. To go across state lines to have sex with someone, it's similar to pimping. In this case, it's not a woman, it's men. Okay, it's similar to, it's the men. But it's similar trafficking is like pimping. Right, but do you think that...
Starting point is 04:04:14 This isn't trafficking. Right, that's what I'm saying. So sex trafficking, none of the men are going to say that they were forced to engage No. In this horrible act of having sex with Cassie. Oh, my God, I have nightmares over this. It was so bad. Boo-hoo.
Starting point is 04:04:29 I'll take one year for that. That's right. We were well-done-it for free, all right, including the escorts. It is what it is. Okay, so that was getting thrown out the window, you think? Yes. So all you have left is transportation to engage in prostitution. That's all I think they have.
Starting point is 04:04:44 That sounds like a slap on the wrist. Well, it won't be because, unfortunately, judges our people too, and he's going to try and compensate for the other things that they've seen, for the state crimes that he's seen. His mindset is going to be, I'm not letting him get away with the minimum. I'm giving him the maximum
Starting point is 04:05:01 that it'll compensate for the things I can't do. The things that he didn't, the things that the prosecutor didn't prove, but I think happened. The things that happened in state court, but the statute of limitations expire, so I can't prosecute him. So, hmm, he says one to ten years.
Starting point is 04:05:18 I think I'm going to give him ten. I hope not for that small of a, for that violation. You know, I'm not suggesting that they should overcompensate for the state crime that was, that they failed to prosecute because of the statute of limitation. I think they should be judged based on what he did then. And that is the interstate transportation of prostitutes. Yeah, the state crime would be the domestic violence. but domestic violence typically are misdemeanors
Starting point is 04:05:52 and usually just only handling state court and they have statutes of limitations so so that's what he's saying hopefully they're not saying yo we got to punish you for the video we've seen even though you're not charged for the video we've seen by listening to the man act
Starting point is 04:06:13 right so he flew in a couple of male escorts to have sex with a woman he paid them they were happy they went home. Right. And trafficking is usually the opposite. Yeah. It's a cat who's flying in a woman and, uh, by coercion or force and then having heard
Starting point is 04:06:31 a prostitute for him for the most part. That's what trafficking, the essence of it is. This is not that. No, he's never been a pimp. It's not. No, he wasn't no good pimp. Yeah. Interesting.
Starting point is 04:06:48 There's another clip. So why, why did he defend him calling him? for 24 seasons and was the first court. But right now, the Diddy trial is just about... By the end of this week. Maybe next week then. Yeah, perhaps next. By the end of next week, we're almost guaranteed.
Starting point is 04:07:05 Yes. It's going to be a verdict or a hung jury. That's correct. That's my belief. At this point with, what was like 30-something, you know, witnesses the fans brought... Number one, why do you think the Diddy's calling no witnesses? Because they believe that the prosecution has not proven its case. And so you don't want to expose any of your witnesses to cross-examination, which might trip your witness up.
Starting point is 04:07:31 The prosecutor trips your witness up. Now you have a witness who has lied. Remember, low key that happened to Tori. One of arguably one of the strongest witnesses in the case was initially Tori's witness that got tripped up and got flipped on the stand that he, He was Tori's witness, and he ended up saying, yeah, I did see that niggas shoot a gun. I did see that nigga shoot a gun, right? And that essentially sent Tori to jail, 10 years. So, you know, you want DRock up there?
Starting point is 04:08:09 Do you want KK up there? She's going to be playing the fifth all over the place because they're calling a co-conspirator. And if she's up there, that means she got immunity and she's testifying all. She wouldn't even be your witness then. She would be a government's witness. All right. And the jury has said, well, I'm not letting them off because this witness they brought was a liar. So instead, you just say, hey, they haven't proven their case.
Starting point is 04:08:34 It's clear they haven't proven their case. So no need to call witnesses. That's all right. Yeah, Sean Kelly changed the story. But you know why he changed the story, right? They brought him upstairs and they told him about perjury because here's the thing. supposedly, and I'm surprised that Tori didn't bring this up, I haven't heard anything about it, the prosecutor didn't call him because there's inconsistencies in what he said.
Starting point is 04:09:02 Now, he spoke to three different cops on body camp, and supposedly his story had different variations. They then hit him up to do an interview, right? Because remember, they were about to go to trial. They hit up the person to do an interview with the prosecutors. when they vet his story. Not that night. When they vet his story, his story is kind of wobbly. Could help them, but they think it's too inconsistent.
Starting point is 04:09:31 They don't want to put him up on a stand. Right? Now, remember, the reason why Sean Kelly changed his story up, he talked to the prosecutors like the day before. And when he talked to the prosecutors, the prosecutors probably let him know. remember you've given different stories and you also gave a story when you um when you when you all fucking did an interview with us because the prosecutors interviewed him not body cam shit
Starting point is 04:10:01 that's the night up they interview him and it gives a different story a little bit and i think they threaten him to say yo if you get up there and we're going to be on your ass on cross and you don't say what we need you to say or you say that you never say you never seen Tori with a gun when we know we have you saying that, we're going to look at you for perjury. And he got spooked and he said exactly what the prosecutors wanted him to say, yeah, I see that I think of Tori with the gun now.
Starting point is 04:10:27 Okay? I see Tori with the gun. That's how I think they feel. You being a judge, do you feel there's any reason for Diddy to take the stand? No, not at all. Zero. Zero. Zero reason. I was a criminal defense lawyer. I never lost a trial in four years.
Starting point is 04:10:47 and I don't think I've ever put a witness, my defense witness, or the defendant on the stand. Never, ever. Never. But there are times. I mean, I've interviewed people, you know, that, for example, we're facing murder charges and so forth. They took the stand and they won. Yeah. And they were lucky.
Starting point is 04:11:08 Well, they're the exception. I'll make perhaps an 80-year-old church lady. Yeah, I put her on there. if she was the defendant. But no, it's highly unusual for a good criminal attorney to put his defendant on the stand. Yeah, the person I'm talking about is Hurricane Chris. He had this big song, A, Babe A, Bay, you know, some years back. And he had a situation where he was at a gas station.
Starting point is 04:11:36 You know, he comes back, you know, to his car. And there was a guy that was, like, going through his car. And there was a gun in the car. And he, like, had a gun on him and kept telling him, like step away from the car and the guy like kept going towards him, pulled out a gun, killed him, charged a murder in Louisiana. He took the stand. I remember I asked him, I said, did your lawyers tell you not take the stand?
Starting point is 04:11:56 He said, I didn't care what my lawyer said. I felt it was self-defense and I was going to not leave my life in someone else's hands. And I needed to convince the jury that I really was in fear of my life. Oh, no, I knew I was going to talk from day one. because they know that you're going to be cross-examined by lawyers and you're a layman because I've talked to a bunch of people here about the case and we've all sat and watched the same thing and some of them say yes they have yes they have they totally disregard the perjury and that's the crazy thing about it is that you don't know how these 12 people think
Starting point is 04:12:40 Oh, here's Lodz. She read a document that it seemed like she was reading a document that somebody else wrote and gave it to her and said, read this. What's up, Joe? I'm good. How are you doing it? All right. It seemed like she was reading a document that somebody wrote and said, read this. And no feeling, no passion, no, no, it wasn't like she was reading a document that somebody wrote and said, read this.
Starting point is 04:13:11 No, no, it wasn't like she was married to the information. Like she knew the information. Like she studied, like it was. Like she believed it. Like it was hers. She didn't present it like it was hers. Like, yo, this is coming from me. I've studied this kid.
Starting point is 04:13:34 I didn't get that impression. Did you? Yeah. I think that's what her objective. I'll give you one the other side of the coin. Her objective I think was to make the jury understand, put pieces together. You're right, it was definitely not passion. It was no passion.
Starting point is 04:13:51 It was very, it was not like, you gotta go get this guy. It was none of that. It was more matter of like, this is where we proved that he trafficked Casset. You know, so it was definitely flat. It was in that sense. But I definitely, I can't. My take was that it was informative Meaning there are things there like I was like okay, I didn't really get that until you just want this to do it
Starting point is 04:14:19 But I guess that makes sense You know that like when when DROC is reaching out to me That's part of her to temper with her to make sure that she's not going to testify against him Yeah I i i don't know Sean she ain't buying that sideball sidebar I do think that there was some things that were helpful.
Starting point is 04:14:40 From my perspective, I felt there were things that are helping for the state. But we went through all of that, all of that we went through in the last six weeks. So my point, I'm just, I got you, Joe. I just say, look, but you're definitely right. You're definitely right that it was no passion. It was, I felt like it was informative, but it's more like a lecture than like a rousing speech. I think that's, that's important to take me. Were you expecting more from the closing argument than which in terms of like
Starting point is 04:15:11 What I'm expecting is really not the point the reason I think is not I got you I got you I got you I'm not her right you're right I feel like she's trying to reach I think she's trying to reach people who don't understand the law you know what I'm saying so you feel me on that like I'm just like it's like if you don't understand how has this become trafficking I learned something to say I didn't know before that even if they don't end up having sex, that it's still considered sex trafficking. That this incident, the Inter-Continently, when he tries dragging her back there, and he's trying to drag her back to the room
Starting point is 04:15:42 and they're in the middle of people, that alone would count as trafficking, even though she doesn't end up, that's his force, he's trying to force her into it, and that right there, they're saying it's trafficking. To me, that was a novel thing of law. I thought, okay, if she then afterwards would engage in it, then, you know, maybe before she engaged,
Starting point is 04:15:58 if you're telling me that's the law, That's, I think, I think, no, Sean G at the Diddy party, but yo, if Sean G not at the first Diddy party, if did he get free? Did he a fake nigger, bro? If Sean G.
Starting point is 04:16:11 Don't got five complimentary bottles of baby oil and at the free, yo, he should be on a freak off slipping slide. He should be on a freak off slipping slide. Come on now. You could tell him he don't want to hear none of this bullshit. Like, man, that's the reason why you got,
Starting point is 04:16:29 got to watch both because you can tell Sean G's like man fuck this man this child over man this shit is over fuck this is over did he's coming free yo I'm telling you Sean G got to walk up in there you know I mean we get five balls of baby or and he get to pick his favorite one of his favorite joints to hit you know I mean like for real he'd been holding it down for Diddy like crazy got problems with VIP free cough list yes I'm actually in the middle trying to I actually have thoughts Yo, you can tell Shonji on something. Get the fuck on out of here, man.
Starting point is 04:17:02 Get out of here, nigga. Get out of here, man. Get out of here, man. We have to see what the... I'll tell you this much. This is what I can assure you. Defense counsel are freaking rock stars. Tomorrow they're going to go out there.
Starting point is 04:17:16 By the time they're done, this jury is going to sit there being like, whoa. Mark Agnifalo. If Mark Agnifalo bring it, Puffy got it. All right, Joe, I see them. I see them all. 10 o'clock tomorrow, right? If Mark Agnifalo bring it Puffy got it
Starting point is 04:17:38 Yo! Yo, my man. Yo, my man, threw the donation of it here. What's my man at, bro? Yo, I think that's him. Let me go read the dog. Yo,
Starting point is 04:17:52 you know, Sean G. You're at the first Diddy party. I'm telling you, I'm beefing with Diddy if Diddy don't invite you to the first Diddy party. You've been holding this shit down. I ain't go a lot, man.
Starting point is 04:18:07 Unk is too funny. Unk is too funny. What my man, what he said? He ain't even for the message. He didn't even for the message. Thank you for the 20, Uncle. Thank you for the 20, brother. We're watching you.
Starting point is 04:18:25 We're watching you. You know what I mean? And as has been every day of this trial. Whenever the prosecution has gone first, the defense has always come behind them and destroyed everything. And I'm anticipating tomorrow.
Starting point is 04:18:49 Mark Agnes speaks, thank you for that super chat. That Mark Agnifalo, he got to bring it. He got to bring it. And I think he is. This is bigger than the, Super Bowl this is big and Mark Agnifalo has never not showed up every time he's cross-examined the witness he has never not shown up he has always shown up and your uncle if you in here you slacking with that Saabaw merch let me know if you need
Starting point is 04:19:31 me to help I got some designers help you cook it up man that Saabaw merch you got to drop Saabawr destroyed whatever foundation the prosecution thought they may have laid or was laid. This girl today, to me, I was underwhelmed. I was underwhelmed at best. If Mark Agnifalo bring it tomorrow, Puffy got it. Now, the prosecution is going to get to go again. They're going to get to do a redirect, a re-close or whatever. Rebuttal. After Agnifalo. And most likely Maureen Comey is going to do that.
Starting point is 04:20:22 Yeah, well, we got to see. That's going to be timed. So that's going to be on a time clock. Like, if they're starting tomorrow at 9, and by the way, they're supposed to get four hours. So four hours goes until right after lunch, right? I'm pretty sure they're going to start up about 10, because, you know, they do some pre-court and like, you know,
Starting point is 04:20:42 before jury comes in bullshit. I think they're going to go from 10 to 2. 10 to 2. And the break is going to split it in the middle. Or 10 to 3. 10 to 3. 10 to 3, the lunch break from 12 to 1. So you get 1 to 3 because it's 4 hours, 4 hours.
Starting point is 04:21:05 Okay? Then the rebuttal, I got to imagine, it's going to be 30 minutes to an hour. Can't be more than that. Both of you, I got four hours, rebuttal one hour. after that it's time for jury instructions. They've done the conference. They got the package that's going to be given to the jurors. It's a hundred and something pages.
Starting point is 04:21:29 It explains the charges. It explains what the government is saying allegedly happened, how it violated the law, and also has information about what was in the trial that they could refer to. This was objected to supposedly over 200 times. They agreed that this is a final thing that the jury could use as they make their deliberations. They're going to get quick instructions.
Starting point is 04:21:59 And I do believe, even though it's on a Friday, I think the judge is going to try and have them, you know, they're hearing people. Like they're already in court already. Have them go in that room even if it's for an hour. Okay. So status conference from three to four, jury instructions from three to four, right, or three to three 30, and then send them off to the jury deliberation room
Starting point is 04:22:27 and let them get an hour. There'll be someone who goes to check on the foreman and say, hey, it's the end of the day. Do we have a verdict or are we close? and I believe they're going to say no. I believe they're going to say no. If they come back with a quick verdict, I got to think Diddy's code?
Starting point is 04:22:53 So I think they're going to say no. Then we're going to get into Monday. All right? But tomorrow is a big, big day. Tomorrow is a big big day. It's a big big. Big big day. I can't even begin to tell you how big tomorrow is.
Starting point is 04:23:17 Tomorrow is literally the biggest day of, you know, Diddy's life. You know, his freedom hangs in the balance. His lawyer is the biggest day of the case. If they blow tomorrow, we could see Diddy in 20 years. If they nailed tomorrow, we could possibly see Diddy. for the white party July 4th. You feel me? You got to keep it in mind.
Starting point is 04:23:46 Diddy, we might get a verdict on July 2nd, and if we get a verdict then, Diddy could still get some time to plan the July 4th party. You know before Michael Rubin hijacked the July 4th party, the July 4th party was synonymous with Puffy's party up in the Hamptons. That's where it was going now. But I believe that Mark Agnifalo is going to come with it. I believe he is.
Starting point is 04:24:18 Um, I will be here. I ain't going to lie. Like, I'm not that impressed with Mark Ignifalo. I, I don't know about him doing the, the, the closing. I don't know about that one. I don't know about that one. I would have went Brian Steele. I would have went, you know, pretty much the number one in this case, even though she's listed at number two. I'll go tennie. I'll go tennie. Um, I wouldn't, give it to Nicole Westmeline, even though she's, I ain't going to lie, she's like most improved player. She's six, six women off, like she's going crazy. But I think, I think it should
Starting point is 04:24:58 be Brian Steele or, or Tenney. Mark Ignifalo, every time I saw him speak without a script, it felt like he always put his foot in his mouth. That's not a good thing for a closing argument. when he went up on TMZ and said, maybe the nigga got the baby all from Costco. Brother, be quiet. Like, I just don't think he's a slick talker and knows how to really deliver a passion. Well, you know, I've never seen him, like, really litigate,
Starting point is 04:25:38 but I'm going off his public interviews. They look like a mess. I want Brian Steele. Brian Steele, when Brian Steele says, I'm going to defend. Brian Steele, when he says, said, I'm going to defend Jeffrey with the last drop of blood. I said, Jesus Christ, this is a lawyer I need.
Starting point is 04:26:07 I ain't going to lie. Brian Steele is one of those. I think Brian Steele could bring the passion, bring the fire, sum this up, and make it absolutely look absurd that they're even there that proceeding. By the way, this was him entering court today. Good morning, Brian Steele. Are you ready for the closing argument? This is a smile of a man getting a lot of money.
Starting point is 04:26:31 A lot of mullah. You got to pay through the ass to get him, pause. Are you armed? So good to see you again. Okay? You're very handsome, by the way. You are. So we're happy to see you.
Starting point is 04:26:47 Right thing. And not guilty. There you go. There you go. Who else? This is this morning. This is Xavier Donaldson. Hi, Mr. Donaldson.
Starting point is 04:27:13 Have a great weekend, okay? Nice to see you. Okay. Bye. Okay. Got the twins. Gee that was at court again. This is Mama Combs.
Starting point is 04:27:34 I'm just saying, hey, Mona Lisa, come home. You know you can't wrong with it. You said, Africo is not a Rico. A freeco is not a Rico. They got shirts. The free puff shirts. This is the this is a courtroom sketch artist Oh
Starting point is 04:28:05 Did he sketch artist Right here There goes the sketch artist The day of trial Apparently there's a bunch of them Quincy Kristen Good morning
Starting point is 04:28:27 I mean Justin, sorry Quincey, I don't see Christian. Yeah, Christian is not there. Hmm, to the twins. Yeah, this got to be the security. We are waiting for... This is the first time they started coming to avoid.
Starting point is 04:28:59 We see everybody waiting for me. Everybody's going to see who's going to him and everybody's going to do. So he's going to see who's getting out. I guess it's... Good Here we go Good morning Good morning
Starting point is 04:29:27 Good morning Good morning Good day and good day How a great day I would imagine the whole family's on the edge, right? I'm a free All right Oh man
Starting point is 04:30:05 Okay Yeah And And I'm looking forward To seeing What it is Let me get out of this rain
Starting point is 04:30:23 It's starting to rain I'm looking forward to seeing His presentation tomorrow Uh oh He was busy He was busy He was busy um taking notes and writing stuff down him and puff were busy going back and forth with each
Starting point is 04:30:53 other so tomorrow tomorrow is a big big day and uh you know it it it i got to tell you you know listening to listening to all that testimony today without the listening to all that testimony today without the cross-examination it was
Starting point is 04:31:28 you know it's got me kind of down it wasn't a good day for Puff today today was not a good day for Puffy because that girl got up there and well that
Starting point is 04:31:48 That was a strategy in having Puff go tomorrow, right? Whereas like, you know, you could hopefully they come back tomorrow with a clearer head. You don't get them when they're tired. In the morning, they're probably most engaged. They're hearing Puffs a piece of shit. He's a piece of shit. He's a piece of shit. He's a piece of shit.
Starting point is 04:32:08 And then you come in when they're tired about to go to sleep. And then you're like, no, no, no, no, he's not. So they'll have a fresh chance to try to convince people tomorrow. So today was supposed to be a pro prosecution day. She pointed out every bad thing that he did. She said that he looked ridiculous. She started calling him names and taking shots at him saying he looked ridiculous. Look at how he looks running down the hallway in a towel.
Starting point is 04:32:44 you know and he didn't get a chance to defend himself he didn't get a chance well the reason i feel down is because you know a lot of that what they showed today um it was very um it was anti puff man and and it just it wasn't a good day because he didn't get a chance team didn't get a chance to offer a rebuttal but tomorrow tomorrow uh if mark agnifalo bring it puffy got it you know you know this is where superstars are made you know this is where superstars are made you know at moments when the pressure's on when the lights are the brightest, you know, tomorrow's another day. Tomorrow is the day, right? It's got to go down tomorrow. And that's, you know, that's where I'm at with it, you know,
Starting point is 04:34:18 that's where I'm at with it. But I was expecting, I was expecting a lot more from, I was expecting a lot more from, from, I was expecting a lot more from the closing argument. I didn't get it. I didn't see it. I wasn't impressed. You know, and I think what maybe bothered me a little bit is there was a lot of new people there, right? They had three overflows. I think they had two or three overflows.
Starting point is 04:35:00 The last six weeks, it's really only been one overflow. So I felt like the new people that were there were hearing what they were hearing if they believed it, they walked away with the feeling that Puffy is guilty on everything. But I allowed my mind to get caught up into that when really it's not even about me. It's not even about what I think. It's not even about what any YouTuber thinks. Mainstream media, YouTube, a vlogger, TikTok, or Instagramer, Facebooker. It's not about what none of us think. It comes down to what those 12 people on the jury are going to think.
Starting point is 04:35:59 That's what it comes down to. And, you know, they didn't hear anything new today, you know, they didn't hear anything new that was, you know, mind-changing. Everything that we heard was what we already heard that already got destroyed under cross-examination. So that's what we got. You know, to see Puff sitting there, you know, I saw him twiddling his fingers. Yesterday I saw him playing with his feet. I can't even imagine how that dude must feel right now. Sitting in that cell without a friend in the world.
Starting point is 04:37:18 knowing that his life is in the hands of 12 people that have been lied to, that his life, his freedom, is in the hands of 12 people that can decide whether he sees his children again, touches his children again. Yeah, go ahead. not about to get emotional. Being told that she told it very matter of factly
Starting point is 04:38:06 like she knew exactly what Puffy was thinking, what Cassie was thinking, she had to couch it that way. And I'm looking at her like why would you do that? And then I understand that the reason she's doing that
Starting point is 04:38:22 is because she's trying to give this man a life sentence and she doesn't care. And that if a lie has to be told, it's gonna be told as long as she gets her conviction. It's crazy. And Puffy was sitting there, he had his head down. His whole family was behind him. And I know that nigger scared to death.
Starting point is 04:38:54 I know that nigger scared to death. I know he is. 78 sports thank you for that super chat yep so uh you know i sat there and i listened to this lady use evidence and testify the things that already got proven was lies on the cross-examination but she used it again like to me like to me It should be like if something was proven untrustworthy or untruth, you shouldn't be allowed to use it again, but they did. She did.
Starting point is 04:39:45 She did. She did. Yep. She did. But I'm going to get up out of head, man. I'm going to go home and make me something to eat. And get ready to come back tomorrow. Tomorrow's big day.
Starting point is 04:40:13 I'm going to get ready to come back tomorrow. Yeah, I definitely apologize for being late today. Tomorrow we cannot, we cannot, cannot be late. It's coming down to the wire. You know,
Starting point is 04:40:32 I'm feeling anxiety about the case. It's hard for me, it's hard for me to divorce my mental, my, my thoughts, and therefore my feelings
Starting point is 04:40:45 from this case because I'm so invested and I put so much time into it and for me to know that the decision is coming down, you know, it's, uh, I'm feeling a little anxious, man. Absolutely. You know, um, but that's where it's at. That's where it's at. It's raining, y'all. See the rain? how you doing all right all right let me see any other wrapups we could get going on let me see chat
Starting point is 04:41:38 any other topics we didn't we didn't cover yet I feel like Jim Jones and push a T are on the same like they're on the same like calendar right now like they're entertaining but they're entertaining while they're using somebody else's name right for example
Starting point is 04:42:06 I don't know how this this Jim Jones Nas thing even really kicked up but Jim Jones has been compared himself to Nas he claimed he had more billboard entries than Nas a flat out lie right he claimed
Starting point is 04:42:22 he was almost claiming like his catalog is better than Nas a flat out lie and now he's claiming that because he mentioned Nas he got Nas the most viral publicity Nas has ever received another flat out lie
Starting point is 04:42:37 Like I like Jim Jones like you are always have you always got a love a passionate liar right like this guy's just he's just lying left and right but he's passionate about these lies For now's probably never been done for him in his life he's never been that viral at all ever Ever he's never been talked about like this ever in his life What you did the last time he was in some shit like this with people were comparing Jay C is he was being on say that you heard You dig? And I don't want to talk about other people's career, but let's just talk, get to the significance. You know the great thing about Jim Jones.
Starting point is 04:43:15 I think Jim Jones thinks if he keeps talking, he's going to erase history, right? Like he's going to change how history has been written. Nazir Jones is one of the greatest rappers of all time. His catalog, let alone his pen and his skill, you would not even be in the same conversation or caliber. I actually find it quite offensive that he. he's even saying this, but it might be for rage bait, right? Also, this is the thing. I love what Jim Jones is doing now.
Starting point is 04:43:46 He's a older MC. I think he's probably 40-something. He's creating, not necessarily he created himself, but he's further pushing this lane where we could listen to rappers who we used to like that have grown and have age and are in their 40s. Yes, 40-year-old rap is going to be a thing, chat.
Starting point is 04:44:05 Right? I like all that. Right? I like all those things. However, he can't rewrite history. Jim Jones for the first half of your career, you were what was called a non-factor in music. Okay? You, um, not gonna lie, I do think your, your lyrical skills gotten better, but you was kind of known as the negative who was with Cam. Okay? You're actually not even seen as top two in your own group. That's, that's even more offensive. You aren't even seen as top two. in dipset, right? Niggas used to say, yo, the nicest is Jewel's then Cam, or niggas will say it's Camden Jewel's. Nobody on planet Earth would say
Starting point is 04:44:49 Jim Jones than anybody else. Now, as things change, and I will give you credit, you're focused on music while, you know, it looks like Jewel Santana started doing crack, okay? No disrespect, Jewel's.
Starting point is 04:45:04 It is what it is. You lost a cup of teeth. We know what happened. Cameron looked like he went to go kicking in Ohio or Columbus somewhere. You went to go hang out by the pool down there in Florida. No shots. I love you, Cam. But, you know, they didn't drop music as frequently.
Starting point is 04:45:17 You were on your game. Okay. I think around when you dropped, was it, was it Harlem? It was the album. There's one album that I remember I was just like, okay, Jim is taking this shit more seriously, and he's popping out as the lead, right? Like, yo, I'm a solo artist. This is what I do.
Starting point is 04:45:33 You get what I mean? And by the way, I'm not saying that Jim didn't come off like a dope rapper on the Diplomaz Project, it was it. But there was a time that I'm like, okay, he's becoming the lead rapper. And that has transformed your career, but not transforms your career that you could talk like this.
Starting point is 04:45:52 Not about, not about Nas, brother. No, please, just stop it. Stop, stop it. Get some help, brother. Get some help. Anyway, did y'all see T. T. Payne had some words about, T. Payne had some words about, Drake, listen to what he said.
Starting point is 04:46:15 The one thing I learned from Drake, and here's the crazy thing, one thing I learned from Drake, but one thing he hasn't followed its own words, Drake said, I want to be one of the people that gracefully bow out and not get kicked out. Yeah, I think it was part of my environment. Y'all right, it was a product of my environment. I have ever since said,
Starting point is 04:46:36 Yeah. Let me just play his clip again. The one thing I learned from Drake, and here's the crazy thing, one thing I learned from Drake, but one thing he hasn't followed its own words, Drake said, I want to be one of the people that gracefully bowed out
Starting point is 04:46:53 and not get kicked out. I have ever since said, yeah, you really are. Thank y'all. I appreciate y'all. I'll see y'all when I drop. Don't worry about it. I'll just drop something. Let me know if you heard it.
Starting point is 04:47:07 Drake is like, no, listen. Okay, I got another one. Oh, check this out. Check this out. Y'all didn't like that one? Okay, real quick. Just one more. Let me try one more.
Starting point is 04:47:16 And then he's the person that he said, you know, he didn't want to be. And I learned that from him. Like when he said that, I want to gracefully bow, bow, I'd not get kicked out. I was like, you know what? I'm out this bitch. This is live shows now. I'm out this motherfucker. I'm not trying to impress y'niggas.
Starting point is 04:47:36 Y'all niggis. Y'all nigg's don't give a fuck about live or die. Why the fuck would I keep trying to impress on me? I'm out. I'm done. I did everything that I'm trying to do. I'll change the game. I made a sound.
Starting point is 04:47:47 What else? What else? You literally can't. It's only, even if you make a hit today, it's just, it won't even, it's just normal. Yes. It's just normal. I was like, yeah, that's okay. Well, shit.
Starting point is 04:47:58 Cool song. Okay. I couldn't disagree more. And I know something I'm like, well, of course, you like Drake, so you're going to think not. Nah. I think I'll know the moment, too. I think I'll know the moment. If I had to be very, very honest, right?
Starting point is 04:48:15 Like completely all the way honest about Drake's career. Drake's career is a lot like KD. Right? Like, KD probably skill-wise, is still one of the top two, three basketball players on Earth. There was a time, I think, every Drake verse was the hottest verse of the year, which is unrealistic standards.
Starting point is 04:48:39 The run that Drake went on with the Stimmies was just unrealistic. These days, I think if Drake wants to do what he does it, but he doesn't come with it all the time. You know what I mean? Now, here's the thing. When Drake gets 70, you know what? I got to compare him to LeBron. Because Drake gets 70%.
Starting point is 04:48:55 You know, they said LeBron's falling off, but LeBron's still an NBA first team player. You know, like, yeah, he fell off. But he fell off from being literally an alien to now, okay, he's still leading the pack, but we could at least see him. We could see him. He's up there. We can see him, though. The point is this, when an artist is at the point that T. Payne is talking about, it's going to be about impact.
Starting point is 04:49:20 When T. Payne bowed out, and by the way, we like when you guys bow out. You know why? Because we hate to see someone, you know, it always looks like a rapper is fighting against the current and looks like a drowning man just kind of like wailing their arms. When their run is over, they've never either adopted. or people have just moved on from them. All right? With T. Payne, people was over that sound for the moment,
Starting point is 04:49:51 and he did not transform enough that people would still give a fuck. So rather than keep just, like, doing more and more desperate shit, of course, he did fall back. I'll be honest, he did. But Drake's impact, Drake's impact is still the most impactful rapper in the game. like we can't be talking about this guy stop rapping now if he wants to stop rapping he can't he made a billion dollars he can stop but he's the most impactful rapper like what i would say with impact is this the entire rap game was based around him or adjacent to him for the last
Starting point is 04:50:24 fucking year half y'all never been this excited to talk about kensik lamar and one thing i love to talk about kensik lamar is that yo he finally defeated goliath drake so it's like his impact is still of the utmost. We talk about him all the time. We're still like, you know, the moment we hear, like, we'll all know this feeling. Be like, Drake has another album coming up and we're like, like, what are you talking about this time? We're still, this next album is highly anticipated.
Starting point is 04:50:59 That's what you know. When you're about a drop in, niggis just don't care. This Iceman album is really anticipated. and I don't know how close we are to people not giving a fuck where it could come and go. I don't know how close we are to that moment. I think Wayne had felt certain elements of that while dropping music and he fell back because Wayne is just not a desperate-ass nigger. When Drake gets to that point, we'll all be able to tell.
Starting point is 04:51:33 where he drops the song, right? Or we know he's trying to roll some shit out and he's dropping songs and they're clear misses. And like, here's the thing. And I'm not saying everything he does has to be like fucking amazing. The moment he drops something on Thursday and we don't talk about it going into the weekend
Starting point is 04:51:54 or we don't talk about it Monday or we see no need to talk about it is clipped. It's time for him to get up on out of here. That's a fact. But it hasn't been that. And I don't think it's going to be that for a while. I'm telling you, the barometer for that is that you drop something and it's like the analogy. If a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it, do we give a fuck?
Starting point is 04:52:18 Until we lose the care about Drake's music, even if he drops one song that's not for us. Like the two-mazas song, it's okay to me, right? I want to hear the next rap song, though. The moment when I'm like, I'm good off hearing the next song or I don't give a fuck, like, brother, keep it. You see how that little baby tweet came out where everyone was just like, brother, like no one leaked it.
Starting point is 04:52:43 Like, that's the moment. No one. When people start saying this, and I'm not saying a little baby should retire. Right. I'm not saying he should retire. But this is when you know you're out of that peak, right?
Starting point is 04:52:54 When the fans stop clamoring for your music, right? It was like, yo, you're leaking my songs. I'm like, bro, how the fuck you figured you find this out before us? Anybody leaking your shit?
Starting point is 04:53:03 Like, that's the moment you realize that peak is done. And then while you're coming down from that peak, you got to deal with the graceful falloff. That's a graceful fall off. Now, you could be mad desperate. Drop 20 songs. I'm going to drop album after album. I'm going to do A, B, C, and D.
Starting point is 04:53:20 I'm going to do 15 collabs. You could do whatever to try to keep that facade up. But it will be very blatantly clear when he's off of that hill. When we don't give a fuck about him. These days, if Drake is, if he's burping on a. beat we still care. And I know some people are not going to, they probably don't like Drake as much as I like his music and I might be like, well, we don't care. The numbers say otherwise. Everything says otherwise. Everything says otherwise. So again, I know some people, you know, and there's a large
Starting point is 04:53:52 majority that says, hey, Drake didn't get the best of this battle. Cool. But that doesn't mean his impact. That doesn't mean his impact has been diminished. That doesn't mean that this signify that like this is the fall off The dude dropped an R&B album A Collab album Sold 260 first week Some of the biggest songs Like I'm not denying
Starting point is 04:54:16 That this period will come This time will happen I don't know when it will be though Where he dropped something And we're like Like you ever said to your friends Be like oh where did he drop I mean even know he dropped an album
Starting point is 04:54:30 That's the moment It's over That's the moment You're like, oh, what? I ain't hear nothing about it. That's the moment. His impact is still there. Whether you want to believe he won or lost the battle,
Starting point is 04:54:50 this is not a signifier that he should hang it up. Now, granted, is he, you know, I think Drake, and he admitted it in the interview with Yadi, he was on some youthful shit where he, you know, you know these rappers, they'd be like, yo, if you ever catch me at rapping at 35, like, I'm a bitch. And then they're like 38. still rapping like the game has a lyric like that where he's making fun of somebody for rapping at
Starting point is 04:55:15 37 the game is like 40 still rapping you know Drake was like I'm a retired 35 he never retired at 35 you know it sounds good when you're like 22 right you're like all right I'm just do this to 13 years and get out of here no right so yeah those lines we could I guess we could talk about but and here's the thing too like T-pane sounds a little crazy T-pane sounds like T-pane sounds like Like, he almost was just like, I hope you didn't only quit because of the Drake line. I hope you saw the same things I'm describing because, yeah, well, did you expect Drake to follow his, what he said to a T?
Starting point is 04:55:55 Your rappers talk about slapping niggas, they don't do it. If a nigga run up on me and do this, I'm going to kill him. They don't do it. Again, the niggas just rapping. Again, is he a hypocrite because he said it wasn't going to rap out of 35? Yeah. But is it time career-wise for him to hang it up because he's looking washed? No.
Starting point is 04:56:11 absolutely not absolutely not supposedly Drake has responded let's see the response Drake says this guy had resent always had resentment for me you could hear it every time
Starting point is 04:56:30 he speaks on my name interested interesting let's see I got to look up some let me see T-Pain speaks about Drake has he ever said some positive stuff about Drake
Starting point is 04:56:46 all these trans songs that I recorded I listen to them all the time. And I fuck them. So here's my thing. I feel like he recorded a bunch of shit. In order to keep party around, you can take 10, 15 of these songs, put a verse on a bitch party.
Starting point is 04:57:05 That's our album, bro. The songs are already recorded. The songs are already recorded. These are all the songs that didn't make my previous albums. Go for it, bro. Put verses on these songs. Yeah, there's five to seven solo Drake songs that didn't make other albums.
Starting point is 04:57:23 It's not saying that they're bad. I'm not saying that they're bad. There's just songs that didn't make albums. Or party or... Okay, so basically thought the clobber album was a throwaway. Let me see what he says about this. Let's see. But the first song with Wayne...
Starting point is 04:57:46 This is why I respect, dude. You know what I'm saying? Because, man, we was in the studio literally 45 minutes. You know what I'm saying? A hotbeat. The niggas fast. The niggas fast as shit. Mind you, this is somebody...
Starting point is 04:57:56 I didn't work with everybody. Right. You know what I mean? Okay, this nigga come in the motherfucking studio. Play me another beat. I love, not the voice. I like how soft his voice is.
Starting point is 04:58:06 I can't imitate any. I like it. This is soft. I like how soft his voice is. Keep going. His arms is mad little. Okay. Next one.
Starting point is 04:58:16 Stop. It's a moment where every artist say stop. Drake has some little-ass arms at that point, too. The way you're doing this is... Taranato is funny. I don't know if he's always been eating.
Starting point is 04:58:27 hating I mean I don't know if he's always been hating drink is by no way washed drink is by no way not in any sense of the word Drake is by no way washed it's Drake bro this man has 75 million monthly listeners mm by no way is this man washed would it benefit him if he was just like let them 75 million people just bask in what I got now and I was probably for a second. Yeah, that probably helped. 75 million people, bro, they ain't going to where. Ain't going to where. And then when you feel like it's just like,
Starting point is 04:59:07 bro, this $80 million house, he literally has a chance to take a break and go on and go on vacation. He can sit on his couch and shake his dick or if he feel like it. You do whatever he wants. Shake it, bro. Like, just go. Just go to your thing. Drake is by no way washed. Drink is by no. Okay. I don't know why we're still doing the Drake and Kendrick comparisons. I'm checking the numbers for like the Grand National Tour. People are telling me that so far, the U.S. dates, I guess all the U.S. dates are done, supposedly.
Starting point is 04:59:50 Yeah, all the U.S. dates are done. And apparently they're claiming that Drake's tour sold more tickets in the U.S. than Kendrick's tour did in the U.S., but of course, we have to really be honest to account. Kendrick probably had 25 dates, but obviously he's doing arenas.
Starting point is 05:00:11 But shit, tickets are tickets, right? I don't know. Who cares, right? I don't know, bro. It's a blur Grand National. Let's see. What the fuck? Okay, yeah, so it was... Let's see what this is.
Starting point is 05:00:42 Drake did 320 20 million with 1.325 tickets sold. Well, what's this? What is this? Okay, so they're saying North America-wise, Drake did more. Still, both are still successful tours. I ain't going to lie to you. Both are successful.
Starting point is 05:01:19 Didn't Drake take his tour overseas too? All right. Oh, good. All right, what else? What else, my people? We're at five hours and 33 minutes. Let me go read I'm reading some donations
Starting point is 05:01:54 Yeah the future Really cut off his dreads Have you not seen Future's new look Hold on a second Let me read some donations y'all Oprah did not testify Who told you that Offsett did not
Starting point is 05:02:28 Young thug did not bring out Gunner bro Look at y'all Genesis baby mom Who the fuck is Genesis baby mom Okay IMG records Says they got me feel like slackademics Yeah well tomorrow
Starting point is 05:02:52 I gotta start streaming nine Somebody says Are we forgetting that the DA changed the original indictment? Well, they did supersede indictment, sir. Ruger Red, thinking for the gifted memberships. We did talk about that. We talked about Joe's Patreon numbers, computer guy. We did.
Starting point is 05:03:07 We did. Go check yesterday's stream. I think we did yesterday stream or the day before. Game is game. Thank you for the five. Sixth. Congrats and losing that weight family. I'm finally getting back to myself.
Starting point is 05:03:17 I've seen your Travis Scott and Drake Meltdown React. You is down bad. I won't lie. Wait what? A meltdown React video? Oh shit. Tunday Asafa, thank you for the five. I've heard a few interpretations.
Starting point is 05:03:32 You do it the best act. You just need to start being the first. Interpretation or what? Are you talking about the trial? What? The fifth house, thank you for the attendance. Says salute act. Yes, women need more accountability.
Starting point is 05:03:46 The entitlement must stop. If Jane feels disconnected, insecure and unlove that almost 40 years old, she needs to take her parents to court. hilarious. Tim D. the Barbers says, make a poll act. Beta male strategy, thinking for the two. It says, Grandma says, FEO waterbottle ninja. Yeah, they kick Ung's water bottle.
Starting point is 05:04:03 Lester Walnuts, thank you for the five. It says, if Uncle's smart, he'll write a book with all the notes he has. Hazel Days, Hazel Days, thinking of the five, says, they're bringing up all these people, but only Diddy is charged. Yeah, it's kind of odd. The co-conspirators are nowhere to be found. But there's a theory that says if they get Diddy and find him guilty, they could charge the other people right after,
Starting point is 05:04:27 and it's pretty much a slam dunk type of thing, those people would probably plea out because the top guy already has, you know, he already has been found guilty, and then they could offer him what's called a Rule 35. So they could offer Diddy to cooperate after sentencing. So Rule 35, if you cooperate after sentencing, you could get post-sentencing relief,
Starting point is 05:04:47 which they could re-sentence you for way lesser time. So you just got to snitch, right? Tom Shaw It says Go on Vlad is going to understand I agree The truth Tate says I got Puff
Starting point is 05:05:00 He's going to knock him out And take that take That is at the Puff versus Ditty Fight right Nandi O'Chalo says Black rumors led to this Ooh that's what you think It says
Starting point is 05:05:11 Cat Williams Meek Fabulous and Fitti Made those feds believe Something Huge was happening In the private world Behind the scenes We found out nothing close and he is facing jail.
Starting point is 05:05:25 That's kind of interesting. Cat Williams did make us feel like we're going to find, like, you know, some secret cabal. We found out there was some freaky sex going on, but we don't know if it was sex trafficking, right? Predictions for Cardi B's album sales, 220. I think Cardi's going to sell 220. AI are real. He says, Act, you've got to clear up the, the, oh my God, I'm about to struggle with this. The chronology, the chronology of your coverage.
Starting point is 05:05:50 The fact that they dropped the attempted aspect of the charges, and also they could find multiple offenses for the charge. Two separate prostitution counts as two charges. Yeah. So, oh my God, this is like tomorrow we're pulling out the whiteboard. Okay, I'm not going to have it here. I'm just do it on Microsoft and paint. So we get to find out. It was kind of like a nothing burger when it came to them saying that they're not pursuing these theories.
Starting point is 05:06:19 they're saying we don't give a damn about giving instructions about attempted arson and so basically they had one of the predicate acts that fell under the California statute right that was violated in that district would be attempted arson and then they had arson so they basically said they weren't pursuing the theory about the attempt they felt like they proved the attempt so The things that we thought were dropped, they're still actually going with. I think they had attempted kidnapping, but they were like, no, kidnapping was there because surety was held, which I don't think it was proved at all. But they're saying she was held against her will at the warehouse.
Starting point is 05:07:03 That was Capricorn Clark. And of course, when it comes to Cassie, they're saying that Cassie was held at the London Hotel by DRock. And again, chat, I'm telling you, if did he gets convicted, we're going to see an indictment very shortly after within the next year or two. And it has to have Gellane, not Gilein, but it's Christina Karam, D-Rock and all the niggis in there, right? Which, yeah.
Starting point is 05:07:27 So when I said, act, man, don't tell me you doing, you're doing the Orlando Dodgers look. You don't like it? Yeah. Roy Eddie says, act, could you please leave the stream on the academy? Yeah, the stream should be up. Like, sometimes they'll block the stream, and if I see it, I'll just,
Starting point is 05:07:45 remove the part that blocks it, you know? Alexander says, do you think Biggie knew about the freakoffs? He had wild lyrics. Well, I think most of these guys were always pushing the limits with sex with women. So what we think of the freakoff now, I think there was a version of the freakoff then. I think even Cuban Link even talking about Fat Joe, I think they did their own version of freakoffs. It looked like, you know, they come from the era where, you know, there's like an era of niggas that love to run trains. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 05:08:13 It was like, y'all are celebrities or Fat Joy, you're a celebrity. Y'all could get five girls for all five or y'all. Y'all don't need to fuck one girl, but I think some of these guys used to do trains. They used to like it in a different era. So I said, act, everybody hating on your football jersey, but I like it. So what I said, Orlando jersey in L.A. hat is wild. Oh, my God. Give me a break.
Starting point is 05:08:39 So what I said, Biggie Nasty Boys song talks about a freakoff. Really? Biggie Nasty Boy? Let me see. I remember this song You nasty boy You nasty or something like that Ain't that the hook?
Starting point is 05:09:01 Because I'm a nasty motherfucker I just thought I just Whatever I met this one bitch Come up to the spot This bitch got candles lit or whatever She told me whatever She wanted to get her freak on or whatever
Starting point is 05:09:12 I'm like what's up What you want to do Know what I'm saying I'm ready to wear it out Or whatever Bitch told me she wanted Wanted me to shit on her You know shit
Starting point is 05:09:23 I was like what you mean shit I mean shit I mean I mean I'm like shit on you after after i hit it i won't call you no more it's like shit on you she told me she want me to cock her over and shit on her stomach i said bitch what the fuck fuck i'm i supposed to do after i shit on her i'm supposed to hit after that she's just wild so after i shits on the bitch right you know i shit on you know i shit after i shit on the bitch the bitch yeah i wash the shit off or whatever and ditty is and ditty starts yeah this goes out to my brooklyn crew representing on
Starting point is 05:09:56 freaky bitches. Fuck them all day, fuck them all night. We don't love these hos. Spark these bitches' interests. Sex is all I expect. If they watch a TV and the Lex, freak. Yeah. Yeah. They were doing the freak on here, but, you know,
Starting point is 05:10:23 freak off, same thing. Somebody said, yo, act, we already turned down the shack fade, but what we're not going to do is wear that nigga merch. Now, this is Orlando Magic merch. Somebody says, uh, act, listen to the end of the the song of Mariah Carey with ODB. Mariah Carey ODB song. The end of the song?
Starting point is 05:10:45 It's called fantasy, right? Let's see. What's her then? What's you going to do when you get out of jail? I'm going to do a remix. What's going to do when you get out of jail? I'm going to have some fun. We'll have some fun.
Starting point is 05:11:14 My boyfriend, there's no ending. My boyfriend, I'm laughing. Introducing the old dirty doggy. Me and Mariah will go back like babies a pacifier, old dog dirty. Oh, Dirty Dog, no liar, keep your fantasies hot like fire. Jump, jump, jump. Let me see the stump.
Starting point is 05:11:34 I don't think you're going to see a lot of lyrics about the freakoffs because I think the only person having freakoffs and telling his writers is Kanye. Kanye is clearly telling his writers like, yo, write about my freakoffs. Diddy was keeping his freakoffs very secretive. You know, he wasn't writing about them, right? Or having his right. You know, he didn't write his own lyrics. So who takes pictures at a fucking gas station, paparazzi? You know, I wonder if she ever left the country.
Starting point is 05:12:02 You know, Daphne Joy's lawyers said that, oh, she can't be on the stand for much longer. She has an international flight. That's what they said about Daphne's joy, right? She had an international flight, so she couldn't be on a stand all week, right? Now we see her ass pumping gas. Where is that?
Starting point is 05:12:25 And by the way, Diddy got sued again? This time by Tony Busby, even more times. Got sued three more times by Tony Busby. It's like Tony Busby learned his fucking lesson He learned his lesson with With Jay-Z But definitely not with Diddy He don't give a damn about Diddy
Starting point is 05:12:45 Hey where is this picture at? Am I blind? Where's the Daphne Joy picture? Am I blind? I must be blind. So Diddy is now sued now by a man Who claims he was sodomized And told you're going to get that Diddy love
Starting point is 05:13:14 Oh my God And another one, Diddy and his son are getting sued because they're saying the woman claimed that she was lured into a gang situation. I'm wondering if Diddy ever had sex with his sons like in the romance year, right? Do you think Diddy would do that? I think there's a little bit of weirdness in that, right?
Starting point is 05:13:33 Like if you're fucking with your kids around, like I think that's kind of fucking weird. Like, you running a train with your son is fucking weird to me. No? Yeah, I don't know where the definitely Joy picture went. I probably got to go on TMZ to find it. death me joy yeah she said she was leaving the country but here she is pumping gas
Starting point is 05:14:04 right whatever so they're suing ditty and his son this is a new lawsuit lord a woman to a law sanchez with a promise of getting job and entertainment but when she arrived in LA she was kept in the house for six days and ended up being R-worded by multiple men including Diddy at least according to new thing all right local Think of the five. It's a Miss Parker. Ms. Parker. I'm not the freak off that.
Starting point is 05:14:47 Mr. No matter what, says that's the same lady who was asking where the freakoffs was at weeks ago. Yeah, yeah. She's at court like a menace. Maris Lombardo says, respect to your mom's. Act, I hope she heals up. She's healing. It happens slowly, but she is. Thank you.
Starting point is 05:15:00 Thank you for your concern, brother. I definitely appreciate, you know, your well-wishes. Act. Vince says, Act, you should form a AAA club. A-A club. with fat Joe. Oh, nigga, get out of here, bro. Get out of here, bro.
Starting point is 05:15:19 Bro, where does this idea of me not having, you know, I mean, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the one thing. Yeah, I would you do an interview with TD Punch? Yeah, I would. I would. I, I would be honest with you, like, for the guys who actually, like, I respect his musical opinion. I think he's stubborn, though. Um, I would do an interview with him before I'd do one with, what's that little dweeb name over
Starting point is 05:15:41 there on the West Coast? DJ head, I wouldn't do none with him. I think the problem with a lot of these guys, and this goes back to him saying hip-hop and United, yo, most of this moral superiority shit and most of this divide in where they think they're too good for other people or you're not like us, started from like literally them. So it's like, I would probably, I'm down and sit down with him.
Starting point is 05:16:07 I don't know if you want to sit down with me, but it is what it is. Brooklyn Nijia says he would have it to Kai. What are you talking about? It would have it to Kai. What? The podcast was so shout out to you, my boy. Dyshire, Ratcliffe, what's up? It says, Ak, if Puff get out, you better help Sean G
Starting point is 05:16:26 get an interview with him. Of course I would. Of course I would. Somebody said, oh, Unk need all access pass to the freakoffs, man, and a lifetime supply of Sirach. Now, yo, AstroGlide need to give Diddy a goddamn endorsement deal. Like my name says, glad to see you back. Appreciate you. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 05:16:48 The podcast for Soul again. Oh, he didn't send the message. Somebody got to tell him how to send a message. Thank you again, Sean G. Fuck with you, brother. I hope, you know, I've been seeing your numbers go up, and I'm very happy you who are putting in the work. You're out there in the field.
Starting point is 05:17:04 You keep us entertained. I watch your videos a good amount of time on my broadcast. I'm glad that I was able to share some love because fair is only fair. I watch your content, so I want my people to support you. Thank you, brother. Trice family email account. Is it paid through the asses while, AC?
Starting point is 05:17:22 Drake responded to T-Pain. We covered that. Calligan says, Ack times the Astroglide collab on the way. Shit. I would have a couple of astroglybys back there, right? Somebody said, put a date on your next show. We need that.
Starting point is 05:17:36 Yes, yes. We are looking at venues right now, chat. I'm going to announce, let me announce the next show. it's probably gonna i'll probably make the announcement like next month or so we are dropping merch tomorrow we actually got some jerseys not these but we have some jerseys dropping we have our july fourth line dropping tomorrow the academy dot shop it will be updated if it's not updated yet okay it's not updated yet these are still the old merch that we still have some supply of let me see yeah where my three x niggas at man pause my three ex dudes man we still got still got a couple of
Starting point is 05:18:14 All right. These pants are fire. These pants are fire. Okay. Jamar Porter. Thank you for the two, bro. He says, I keep putting out this heat. Keep putting out this heat. And shout out to my wife.
Starting point is 05:18:29 Okay, shout out to your wife, brother. Shout to your wife. Somebody said, act. We know you're trolling shack with that jersey. Nah, I want no problems to chat, man. And two athletics says, Offset just defended Drake. Where?
Starting point is 05:18:42 Where did he? where do you defend him and car mat says gunna or thugs album i'm gonna be honest with you i think thug bro i think thugs an amazing musician i think thug is coming off too cool right now like he's coming off too cool like he thinks he's the great listen people love you well people don't love you like that brother like they're they're they don't love you to the point that they're like yo we hate gunna now he has to get over that aspect he could secret not secretly because he could say he don't like Gunna, but it seems like his focus is not on giving us, pretty much the thing we care about is just give us some hot songs right now.
Starting point is 05:19:20 And maybe his hands are tied too. I think his hands are kind of tied because he can't rap like how he used to rap because he's on probation. But I'm going to be honest right now, it's kind of sad. Gunna's making better music than Thug and Baby. Like it just happens to be that way. And, you know, it kind of sucks to say. say that. And I don't think fans are picking Gunna because fans are not street or whatever. I just think
Starting point is 05:19:46 Gunna realize that because he has snitching allegations, he has to make great music. You know, like we need Doug to be a little bit hungry. You get what I'm saying? All right. Where did Offset defend Drake? I don't want to see that. Where did it offset defend Drake? Did he defend him on the post? Where offset? Here we go. Oh, okay. He says, The boy is the boy. Ain't going to change. It's a shit ain't going to change. All that hate and another grown man who do more numbers than everybody is diabolical.
Starting point is 05:20:47 Wow. I got to post that. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. You know what's so funny. And this is why people are going to back up off their Drake hate.
Starting point is 05:21:02 The few people that Drake didn't like or that don't like Drake were so loud during the battle that we forgot that Drake helped so many. people along the way, gave the Migos one of their first and biggest songs, right, Versace the remix. And like a lot of these guys have respect for Drake. You know, they have, you know, they don't have to be best friends, but they have some respect for Drake, right? Let's see. Where's that post it? Also, here's the thing. Y'all told my lines backfiring. Didn't Kendrick said you ran to Atlanta because you needed a check balance, right? And then all of a sudden we see then we see
Starting point is 05:21:57 Kendrick go collab with an Atlanta artist and then didn't we see the rest of the Atlanta artists like basically say bro why the fuck you pull our names in it Drake's the goat Savage said it Thug said it and now you have offset saying it like bro like I think we could tell like it maybe him in future
Starting point is 05:22:15 don't get along or now on the best page right now but this idea that like Atlanta hates future or they think Drake's some culture vulture is clearly false right very very clearly pause right and then Drake responded here I gotta get both of their responses I'm making a post on Instagram
Starting point is 05:22:40 yeah I told you that offset it and JID song I like it by the way did you see this fake ass stunt right here this is definitely fake this is definitely fake right here it's a video of French Montana getting asked about his relationship
Starting point is 05:23:13 with Rick Ross and Drake and look what happens. Status of things with Ross and Drake. Hold us. Catch. Hold it. Touchdown. I'll be right back.
Starting point is 05:23:29 I think I double parked in my car outside. You double parked? Okay. Yeah. My minute. Second. I'll be right back. What's the status of things with Ross and Drake?
Starting point is 05:23:47 Hold us. Cash. Hold it. Touched down. I'll be right. back i think i double parked my car outside you double parked okay
Starting point is 05:23:57 listen all right all right okay you know i wonder why french doesn't speak on it i wonder why he doesn't speak on it Gary uh Gary Gary kaya says act i love you man you always this is my country but i'm from
Starting point is 05:24:21 Zimbabwe I've been watching you since Warren Shirek man why are you scared of Chicago niggas man i gotta come to Zimbabwe now hey which part of send me a picture of Zimbabwe where you live at like go outside and just just like, well, don't docks yourself. The next time you go in the town area, I got to see how Zimbabwe's looking, bro.
Starting point is 05:24:36 I got to see how Zimbabwe's looking. Port City says, yo, singer, Aaron Hall said Diddy made him watch him have sex. He made Diddy watch him have sex with his girl on a Vlad TV interview. Diddy hit the freak off. He got the freak off from him. Aaron Hall.
Starting point is 05:25:05 Can no bitch out there say that she handled my shit? My father's a pastor, so my whole thing is that my grandfather being a pimp it's just like I'm third generation Aaron Hall of third my father's Aaron Hall Jr. He's a pastor so I just skipped over it like checkers
Starting point is 05:25:21 and my whole thing is this is that yeah it's that if you never heard a girl say that no fucked up trick shit about Aaron Hall then you understand that less chill shit is some real shit so that was basically like from some life experience now my whole thing is that I just
Starting point is 05:25:37 you know I just think that girls think that a whole lot of guys you know run after they shit, you know what I mean? Talk to me, you can say what you want on there. A whole lot of, you know, a whole lot of girls out there with them bill who caused them young 1970s, 1980s bitches. You know what I mean? They try to go up there with the, you know, with the fresh out the pussy shit and think they
Starting point is 05:25:57 can get like a nigger like Aaron Hall. I'm historical dick. Yeah. They fuck with me. That's right. And they fuck with me. If they fuck with me, it's a big dick. Everybody know my son's mother.
Starting point is 05:26:07 Everybody know that shit. Yeah, that's glory. And they tell them about it. when you put errands on it, when you fuck a bitch for three days and take the bitch hand and take them out of the man's hand, then you are a retired pimp.
Starting point is 05:26:18 Yeah. But at the time, as soon as I came to South Beach, I just grabbed her, and she'll tell you the same story. I just grabbed her and fucked her for three days, then Aaron's got on her pussy with an apostrophe ass. Yeah. Like it's Aaron.
Starting point is 05:26:30 I mean, it was like, yeah, crazy glue. And my whole thing is this is that if niggas can't handle me, I'm not going to never let them get my last name. If you can't handle my dick, you ain't getting my last name. So I've been single for 50.
Starting point is 05:26:41 All right, man. A whole lot of niggas out there from Jamie Fox to, like, Denzel Washington to whoever. Everybody know me. Yeah. So everybody know, if I say it, I'm gonna fuck it to death. I like the fucking public, you feel me? Yeah. So niggas can't say
Starting point is 05:26:56 nothing about it, them square-ass niggas, them precious cake little dick niggas. Yeah. I like for them niggas to see how I fuck. Like, you used to be to Joe to see you or puffy when any of them niggas. They've been at my house. They all see me fuck. They all know I'm a big nigga. If a bitch touched my dick and she said my dick, and she say my dick is small than she's a lying bitch.
Starting point is 05:27:13 Yeah. Tell her to name the tattoo that's on my ribs that says warning. You get this dick, I'm fucking you up. The thing is, a whole lot of niggas right about taking... This shit's hilarious. Anyway, let me see. Tri's family email account says, Yo, I've been a chat niggins since Warren Shirek.
Starting point is 05:27:30 Check out this in Diamond music from Grand Rapids, Michigan. Slimeball 1K Bender. Try to shine some light on GR. Shout to Grand Rapids, man. So, my says, did I ever talk, did you and Nikki ever talk about Rock Nation? Nope. I mean, we're not, me and Nicky aren't friends like that, but I'm going to be honest with you. I advise Nikki to leave Rock Nation to fuck alone.
Starting point is 05:27:53 That's what I do. I do advisor. Listen, she don't got to take my warning, but I think she should lead them people to fuck alone. You got to lead them alone. But has she been saying and telling us stuff about Jayzee and Rock Nation for years? Duh. I mean, a lot of things Nikki says is true. You know, Nikki says the truth on a lot of things.
Starting point is 05:28:17 It's just funny that, you know, somebody says, get that Drake plot twist snippet. Which plot twist snippet? It just says sometimes Nikki isn't light, though. Like, certain things that she misses out on is because she's not that light. It's an act. The blogs are alluding to Usain Kendrick told Cardi don't put Drake on the joint.
Starting point is 05:28:50 Well, you never said that. Go into more details. Before they say you're spreading, fake news. Brother, like, I'm not here to detail everything me and Cardi said to each other, but just put it like this. When I heard the song and I said,
Starting point is 05:29:10 Cardi, they should be on it. The excuse or the reason I got was that the other guy was essentially executive producing it, he didn't say, didn't tell me that the niggins said no, but you can't imagine this this dude who hates the fuck out of Drake
Starting point is 05:29:31 is going to pick the song, brother. You get what I'm saying? Like, so I deduce that the reason why that song ain't on there because why not have a Drake feature on a joint is because of this Kendrick involvement. Like you could, I don't care what y'all think about it. That's just, that's what I deduce.
Starting point is 05:29:49 The nigga says, when I asked him, I said, Oh shit. Because he said, you're going to like this one, and he plays it. He plays it. He's got the slow jam sample. And I'm like, oh, this is fire. Like, this is fire. And I'm like, yo, this going to be on it?
Starting point is 05:30:02 And it was like, oh, you know, you know Dot executive producer. You know how that go. I'm like, all right. So I took that to mean, Kendrick's a hater. We all know the niggas say it's the biggest hater. So again, not saying Dot made that decision. I don't know who made that decision, right? I don't know who made it, honestly.
Starting point is 05:30:21 It probably carty that made. decision but whatever. Drake told me today it ain't coming out anyway, so fuck it. Swamp is, though, leak it. Or I'll ask Cardi. Maybe I'll get Cardi to send him to me, right? Yeah. All right. Okay. That was the last song he played.
Starting point is 05:30:52 Was it the last one? I think it was like the last song he played for me. And I literally said to him, I said, yo, that is fire. You got to put it out. No, I said, is it on the album? And he's like, say, I don't know. He was just like, you know how that go. Before he played me to Kendrick shit, right? Before he played me to Kendrick shit,
Starting point is 05:31:11 because he had told me Kendrick was only a couple of times. He said, act, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not into that pussy-ass politics shit. He's like, just don't go. Before he played me to Kendrick shit, because he had told me Kendrick's only a couple of times. He said, act, I'm going to be honest with you. Just don't do the politics shit with this.
Starting point is 05:31:36 So he If it's a good song Don't say it's whack Because you fuck with Drake test That's what he was kind of telling me Right So he told me that earlier He played me
Starting point is 05:31:50 The two dot joints He's like yeah That nigga is Honest He's like I think it kind of I don't know if he's Listen to executive producer
Starting point is 05:31:58 I don't know what Happen I'm just saying What he told me So I was like All right cool So I'm thinking Kendra got some type of fucking You know
Starting point is 05:32:06 input And then when it came time For the Drake song And I'm like Oh shit This is fire He's like well you know You know how that go?
Starting point is 05:32:12 And I'm like, all right, I guess you're not getting it. But I need that song, though. I need that song, though. I need that. We will waste no, drink vocals in this life. No, no, no, no. I need that song. I need that damn song.
Starting point is 05:32:26 So I said, you got me lit with the wife. What? I got you lit with the wife. But didn't J.N. T. Payne? Yeah, that was kind of around the time. Like, I think, wait, is T. trying to compare himself when death of Autatoon dropped, and like he kind of lost relevance shortly after,
Starting point is 05:32:49 even though Autotune didn't get killed, T. Payne got killed. Let's be honest, because Wayne started rapping with Autotune, and Kanye started rapping with Autotune. Y'all remember? And then Jay came back around later. I think, didn't he do what Autotune? Jay used Autotune, I think, on I put on. Or am I wrong?
Starting point is 05:33:11 one of these, no, no, no, no, no, it was I put it on. But anyway, Autotune wasn't killed. It was his career that was affected the most, okay? Valquan Rush, thank you, brother. He says, actually, you should do a fan segment for like an hour to have fan live input on topic. Give each fan five to ten minutes of chat. We got to do it on Discord. We should do it.
Starting point is 05:33:33 Oh, so we're going to, like, if deliberation is what I think it is, we're going to, like, if deliberation is going to have to bring, I want to bring you guys in. I think. days where we So there's a stage feature in Discord. It's almost like Clubhouse. I want to do that to make all this stuff happen. All right.
Starting point is 05:34:01 All right. I made it to six hours. I'm happy now. Perfect. As soon as I get to six hours on a stream, I'm like, all right, I can enjoy the rest of my day. All right. Anyway, people, my loves, my people, my chat,
Starting point is 05:34:18 my queens and my kings. I will be departing for the day. Tomorrow, I will, I cannot show up late. We're at the end game. Um, apologies for my tardiness today. I knew court was starting around like noon. I didn't know what time. They're saying 9 o'clock tomorrow, so I'll just be on a 9 o'clock, all right?
Starting point is 05:34:35 Or 930 or something around the sort that we could catch the entire last day. This is going to be the final day of really arguments, and it's closing arguments by Dibby's team. We're going to hear rebuttal, juror instructions, and then we could even get a verdict tomorrow. That would be wishful thinking, but we will see. Chat, I do love you guys. Thank you guys. And I appreciate y'all. they say what's up with DDG?
Starting point is 05:34:57 I don't know. If I'm lagging, I don't know what's going on with that either, okay? Chat, call me crazy, bud. I'll be on here 9 p.m. AM, AM, AM sharp. See you guys. I love you guys.
Starting point is 05:35:10 Take care. Have fun. Go outside. Touch some grass. Get some work done. Play with your kids. Your animals. And, um...

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