DJ Akademiks Live Streams - Diddy Trial Day 33; Verdict Watch! Jury Set to Deliberate and deliver Verdict!! (1⁄30)

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Act is here to serve. I know some of y'all are mad because I did break the four-day streak. I did. I admit it. Okay. I admit it. Diti's not min shit, but I made it. Actually, didn't admit some shit. I'm going to be moving around a little bit.
Starting point is 00:00:14 So we hopefully will, wait. Did this not turn on? What's going on? Right. Am I tripping? One second. Are we not live on YouTube? Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Rough morning. No, it's not a rough morning. We're good. We're good today. We're good. Are we good? We good. Yo, this.
Starting point is 00:00:46 You, I drank this last night? I drank this last night? This shit's hidden. This is the rocked tequila. I'm not even doing a promo. It's called Trimano. This should be hidden. You know, everybody is on Repasado.
Starting point is 00:00:59 There's something better than Repasado. It's called Aeneho. So, like, Reposato is, so the idea behind tequila is that Blanco, Repasado, and Anahoe is three steps up. Repasado means how long the fucking whatever they
Starting point is 00:01:17 whatever fruits or whatever they take to make the shit was like sitting there? I don't know what the fuck? But A Nejo's like even more than that. But I don't know if it gets you drunk or I don't know
Starting point is 00:01:30 but three shots of this shit and I'm you, three shots is like light work for me but holy. But I was drinking last thing. Anyway, all right. Uh, welcome my people. All right. Let's get into it. We are on verdict watch. We're on verdict to watch. If you don't know that we are covering today, USA versus Shauna P. Diddy Combs. This is a indictment that came down in September 12th, 2024. Let me tweet this out as well. I want everybody up in here. By the way, happy Monday. Yo, I actually lost track of dates. I thought yesterday was Saturday. I thought yesterday was Saturday. I thought yesterday was Saturday's yet. Okay. So let me give you out some updates and then we will get all the way into
Starting point is 00:02:41 everything you guys want to get to. Okay. First and foremost, welcome to everybody on kick. Shout to my people on kick. R block. I still see I in the building. Our block, let me tell you, R block is the trenches. They're not, they ain't bending, they ain't folding. They're holding it down over there. Shout to my people over at the academy. Let me load up the chat real quick. We do expect to get a verdict in the next few days okay we expect to get a verdict in the next few days I should probably also post this on Instagram right yeah just trying not to post it on Instagram but we should post it on Instagram hold on hold on okay one second and I give you out some procedural stuff some updates
Starting point is 00:03:47 and then we will move on right actually even posting to the main Instagram which I never do honestly you know it's funny i treat my platform so different and weird the biggest platform which i'd like have record-breaking numbers on i never post on about streams because i still see streams as underground kind of you know i still see it as that okay and then let me post it my personal instagram i would hope if you follow me on stream you follow my personal instagram Okay, perfect. All right, cool. Okay. Not the best post, but it'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Okay, so we're going to hop into it. So the judge is giving jury instructions this morning, some jury instructions, and then they're going to do deliberation. Okay, deliberation, I anticipate that it would be highly unlikely that there's a verdict today. But if there is a verdict today, I think Didi walks. Okay? that's because the case has been so muddied with people even out we sat here and went through every damn day
Starting point is 00:05:05 and we're like is this a motherfucking case of domestic violence or man some of these holes was going so we don't know again it's not a clear cut case right so in a case like this in a rico when you're proving a lot of things oh did he blow up kid cutty car we don't have full evidence that he blew up kid card a car but nah he probably did if a verdict comes back too quick it's going to to fuck Diddy over. No, no, he's going to fuck the prosecutor's over. So it's going to be good for Diddy. That means the jury has sat there and said, y'all been capping for too long for us
Starting point is 00:05:37 to send this man to jail. Y'all been capping this entire, I believe the trial was, they say six weeks, but I feel like it was seven. Seven weeks? Yeah, I've been capping this whole time. I'm good. So if a verdict comes back today, I'm expecting all acquittals across the board. Even though I have predicted that Ditty's going to get convicted of two or five. There's no way to defend the fact that he was hiring sex workers. I think the two prostitution charge he'll get convicted of. The sex trafficking charge of Jane Doe, I think he's going to be acquitted of. The sex trafficking charge of Cassie Ventura.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I think that's going to be a close one. But I think he could get acquitted on that. I think definitely, I won't say definitely because I never say definite with a RICO. But I think the RICO, it's a real stretch. It's a real stretch. You know, jury instructions today is going to matter because they have to explain to the jury or all the jurors. What does it take to actually get a conviction for a RICO charge? Remember, in a RICO, you need a few things.
Starting point is 00:06:41 It has to be a conspiracy. What is a conspiracy? A conspiracy means there's a agreement that's known among the co-conspirators to commit a crime. Okay? Now, the prosecutors out of SDMI has moneyed that. They'd be like, oh, it's still a RICO, even if people were doing things, unknowing that they were helping a crime being committed. It's a very, see, this is where the judge comes in,
Starting point is 00:07:04 because everybody's going to lean to their way. Like, the Diti's team is like, no, this is domestic violence. The other team's like, nah, this is full on RICO. The judge has to instruct the jury on what the fuck these charges mean. So RICO, from what I've done some research, it feels like they need. to know that a crime was being committed. They need to know. Okay. Now, here's the thing, and this is the out for the government. They're not saying they're, they're cool to say the assistance
Starting point is 00:07:30 weren't co-conspirators. So any co-conspirator has to be knowledgeable of the crime. They're cool to say that the assistance weren't co-conspirators or the escorts. They're down to say, you know what they're saying, KK, DRock, and essentially the security team are the co-conspirators. None that have shown up in this case. This is why it's problematic. Y'all are claiming this is a RICO, but you didn't charge none of the co-conspirators, as we know now. They might be on their seal. We don't know. So they got to explain that, and then they got to explain all these predicate acts, right? You know, again, in a RICO, you need two of them to convict someone for Racketeering under the RICO Act, which is Racketeering
Starting point is 00:08:15 and Influencing Corrupt Organizations Act, which means you need, and we also did find some information, which I verified so the prosecutors are right. You actually don't need two different things. It can be two of the same things. If you kidnap someone twice, yeah, it's still kidnapping,
Starting point is 00:08:31 but it's two instances. So, for example, they accused Diddy of kidnapping people like two or three times, right? They accuse him of kidnapping Capricorn Clark, driving to Kentucky's house, accused him of kidnapping Mia, bringing her to a warehouse to be interrogated, accused him of kidnapping Cassie,
Starting point is 00:08:49 bringing her to London Hotel that she can recover from her injuries. Those are three instances. So if they believe that two of those is true, beyond a reason without any, they vote, those two things are true, that is recall. Right? Now, again, that's the predicate offenses side.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Right? You got to remember, they got to have an enterprise. It has to be an ongoing thing. Has it been consistent? Is there a pattern? These things, I believe the judge, will explain. Or it's going to be in a pamphlet, but I think they'll explain it.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Okay. So, let's get a little bit. Okay, so we're going to get into what's going on in court immediately, or shortly, actually, give you a second. I do want to say this. Number one, first and foremost, oh, you want a little tidbit? I'll give you a little. It's a teaser, but not really.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Wait, what the fuck is this? Where's my chat? Where's the chat? I just open it off. Is it it? Give me a second. Give me a second. Let me one second.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Just give me one second. I'm sorry. Go here. Go here. Here. Just give me one second. I'm trying to pull up the chat. But I do have like two announcements to make and then we'll hop right into it.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Not announcements. It's not even announcements. It's not even announcements. It's just kind of updates, I guess. Announcements seems too formal. Okay, great. I do have the Academy of the Academy. By the way, did you see 50 Cent?
Starting point is 00:10:53 Yo, 50 is bothered by this, man. I love Fifth, but he is. Let me tell you. What 50 won't say is that some of the details of this case attacks you as a man at your very foundation. Okay? We're going to get to it, though. All right, cool.
Starting point is 00:11:10 All right, we're on here. Now, y'all going to have to bear with me today. Remember, just remember I'm laying out of the day. We're on verdict watch, okay? So being on verdict watch today, we're going to get the judge who's going to address everyone, and then we're going to get into the deliberation period. There's not a counter, a timer, or anything on that.
Starting point is 00:11:31 It's either, you know, obviously I know the jury's going to go to like five today, so I'm going to stay on to try to make content during that time. Some of this stuff might get repetitive. So I've tried to do a few things. things to make sure it doesn't get too repetitive. And I'll say this. Today, we have for the first time, Lauren Conlin, me and her, we're going to meet in person. We've never met. We're going to meet in person today. So me and her will sit, talk about the case while the jury's being deliberating. We'll sit, talk about the case, go over everything she saw. All you guys' questions,
Starting point is 00:12:07 this is someone who was actually in court. We're going to go over it, okay? Also, upcoming this week. I hate to spoil it, but it will happen. Me and Unk will be sitting in person as well. So a lot of the people who we trusted with the coverage of this, this is a very interesting coverage. I thank all of them for showing me appreciation because we showed them appreciation with lending our platform, our visibility to them, and they gave us amazing work. We're going to be trying to sit with them and also kind of really flush out some of these things. These people were in court. They were there every single day, watching everything. We want to see and be able to question them like, okay, what it is and what it isn't, right?
Starting point is 00:12:44 The verdict could come at any time. It could come at any, any, any time. And I'm excited for all of those, okay? But today we're going to have Lauren Conlin on. Even, and by the way, if we get a verdict before, we're still going to, me and unc, we got to chop it up. Me an unc got to chop it up. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Me an unc got to chop it up. That's a fact. Right. So we're doing that now. I'm actually hitting, I'm talking to Unc right now. I'm talking to Unk right now. We're going to figure this out. So we're going to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Okay. I know Unk is Unk because Unk text me. Unk definitely got like an Android. Like I texted Unk. This shit's so green. And he texts me back and I'm like, green? But I don't know. Maybe he didn't turn blue yet.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Maybe he'll turn blue. But that's Unks. That's Unks. Anyway. Welcome. Two things. So we're doing a few IRL things. And I want to make, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:40 this waiting period, which we don't know how long it did. I want to make it good. Second of all, and I was going to say this for later, but chat, I have to tell y'all, I want to let y'all know we're in a fight. And this is why, you know, I love y'all, but I need y'all. I think we're in a fight. I don't know if we're in a fight. I don't know if we're in a fight.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I think we're in a fight right now. The behemoth that I told you I did not want to squabble with is starting to posture. This is like, you know, when you see two nations, You ever heard be like, yo, they're driving their warships close to the line where they shouldn't cross? You're like, what? Be like, yeah, this could be World War V. You're like, huh? You tell you, it's about it happened.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I don't think it will happen. But I want to be very, very clear, a few things have happened over this last weekend. And I'm like, hold on now. y'all know who I'm told them i'm talking about ira rock rock nation as i said i told you about all their tactics i told you i don't want to talk about them i told you y'all favorite podcasters and other people they either get money from them love them
Starting point is 00:14:52 or just ignore the fuck out of them and that they specifically target people who exactly so i want to be honest with you some weird shit happened over this weekend um i work with meta um they're a partner of ours you know we're media company, we do a lot of things. I work with meta, Facebook, Instagram, right? And we have a good relationship with them. So usually when things come down the pipeline, they'll give us an early warning.
Starting point is 00:15:21 And they came to me this weekend, and you know, corporate people don't really work weekends. But they came to me and they said, we have a lot of filings against you for Rock Nation. I'm giving it all the way up. This is why I keep telling, oh, y'all niggas, Tori, take your time in jail. the rest of y'all niggas who rock nation is going against just take your losses and go my meta rep comes to me and says act rock nation done filed a shit ton of shit against you and we're going to give you the courtesy i'm not going to give you all the detail because they gave me a huge break it says we want you to you could remediate this before action is taken they
Starting point is 00:16:02 gave me really heads up and i'm like okay and they sent me a whole bunch of stuff stuff that had to do with my my um Facebook business pages on my my business page over there academics TV and also the personal page over there um and for even both um both pages on on instagram now I'm gonna tell you why this is confusing and I want to be very honest and this is why I keep telling y'all rock nation ain't for us brother
Starting point is 00:16:30 so this is a notice so other than speaking of my rep they did send me a notice but I like to be really transparent motherfuckers Right. So this is the notice right here. They removed some content from Instagram. You see it. It says Rock Nation, right? This was the Push-a-T post.
Starting point is 00:16:49 They're saying that the Skendrick verse got cut from Push-a-T's album. Now it's on the Cliffs Project. Whatever, whatever, right? So the clips, yo, chat, didn't I tell y'all, didn't I tell y'all that everything from Push-a-T I've been getting from a PR person working push-a-tee shit? I'm not finding it. I'm not illegally using it.
Starting point is 00:17:08 they're sending shit to me. Yo, we're trying to, this is Pusha T's rollout. We want to do A, B, C, and D. Yo, act, it would be big if you posted the Kendrick verse. That's why when I told you, what's the dude name? Azjke or whatever his name is? I said, bro, the PR sent it to me. Their PR is sending it to me.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I posted it. Clearly, this is what happened, chat. I go on stream and I tell you out, I'm going to tell you out the truth. Like, yeah, yeah, Rock Nation. You know, this is not like some, like this is a rollout. They're clearly upset with not only what I've said at Rock Nation, but also I'll, like, I'm going to pull the veil down and tell you this ain't some random shit. Pusha Tee has, and Rot Nation is doing the rollout of a lifetime.
Starting point is 00:17:52 The same content they sent me, they struck. So I even talked to, I talked to my meta people, I said, you know this content was sent to me by them. Now, not Rot Nation directly, but someone who's working, it's a third party. that's working, they're working PR for the clips who is on Rock Nation. They send me to put on my Instagram and because they don't like what I said, they fucking IP claimed it. Come on now, chat. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Come on. Come on. I keep telling you about Rock Nation. And again, I really want no smoke with them, but I don't know who to really. And I think it's also the Desiree Perez thing. We covered her daughter saying some things about her, and she doesn't like that either. Now, I'm going to give, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:45 because I understand how conglomerates work in this, I'm going to offer an olive branch. And the only reason I'm bringing this public is because I used to have a relationship with certain people that worked at Rock Nation. No one high up. And after a while, it ceased. And I remember one of the last things also being the meat stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Like, I think Meek barked on them because they used to do promo through me. And they paid me like 20 grand out of Meek's budget. And I was laughing. I was like, yo, I thought Meek hated me. Pay me 20 grand. I don't care. Anyway, so I think when I said that, they stopped fucking with me. They did.
Starting point is 00:19:25 So I did. I cut off my nose to spite my face, 100%, which I don't care. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, brother, you know what I mean? You're not going to talk this big shit to me and me not say the truth to the people. you can't be saying all this shit when you're paying me. Like you pay me too, my nigga. Or I get paid out of your budget.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Now, granted, Meek didn't really probably... That's when Dream Chaser Records is over there. Meek probably didn't approve. Like, artists don't approve of shit like that. But they thought it was cool. And Meek probably was like, what? They probably barked to them and they stopped. We haven't talked since then.
Starting point is 00:19:56 All good. I'm now again at the point to try to engage a rock nation in maybe a civil discussion. Because I feel like they believe I'm one of the entities. Like, Milagros, they just sued her. They got her out of the way. If you're not with their program, they sue you or shut you down.
Starting point is 00:20:17 And I think what they're doing with me, they're doing a lot of posturing. It's not full on war, posturing. Because truth be told, well, men already help me with this, but I'm going to go back through the back channels of how I got the video and say, hey, listen, why does your client submit a, copyright claim for something that you gave me. Like, I have it in text. You gave this to me.
Starting point is 00:20:44 So this will be cleared up, but the mere fact of submitting this is posturing. It's kind of almost trying to, it's kind of like trying to keep you in check and I don't like that type of shit. So we're going to have to come to some type of cohesion where I don't know who I need to talk to over there, whether it's Desiree or whoever the hell else.
Starting point is 00:21:05 You know, one thing I won't compromise on is my voice being stifled or being quieted or you can't control my pain about anything having to do with Rock Nation or anything else. And I'm not here to try to make y'all look bad or whatever the case. I'm not trying to be slanderous, but I want to be truthful to what I know and I believe it's truthful. But I think me and them, we're kind of getting close because I'm telling you, this weekend they hit me. Meta hit me and they said, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:21:38 Rock Nation has filed several claims against you. And it's not only through Instagram, it's on Facebook as well. So if anyone over there at Rock Nation hears this and y'all could clip it, I would love to engage y'all in a civil conversation unless y'all don't want to do civil. And that's okay as well.
Starting point is 00:22:00 That's okay as well. I'm going to take this to mean that this was a this was a this is one of them shots that work at like work with somebody else but you know thankfully as much as I'm not liked in hip-hop I do have some decent relationships with some of these platforms right anyway we'll continue from there I just wanted to put this out there
Starting point is 00:22:25 Rock Nation damn there sent me the video and damn near copyright struck me for the video why they didn't like what the fuck I said And I tell you, to any upcoming blogger, journalist, media personality, remember, I always say this. This is why y'all should take money for promo or whatever, but never take money for your opinion. Remember, I told you that. If they could buy your opinion, you're worthless. If they could give you this to make you think that.
Starting point is 00:22:57 This is why when people say, Drake is paying you, I find it offensive. You can't pay me to think the way I think. If anybody could pay you to think the way you think, you're worthless in this game. And I've always operated off of that, and I'll continue to do that. So anyway, okay, so that was the other issue. We put it behind us. Let's get into the Diddy trial, people. Diddy trial is here?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Diddy trial is here? We are getting to the deliberations. I believe in about an hour there should be started deliberated, but let's get into it. So it started about 59 minutes ago. Judge Submarini, and he actually entered, the judge says in this case, In case there's anything, we'll bring the jury in for charges, okay, unless there's anything, basically. Garagos says the laptop is ready. There's a few things we'll finalize during the charge.
Starting point is 00:23:45 So these are like laptops that the jury could be able to see some of the things easier, that they don't have a million pages or like booklets or whatever. They could just refer to like laptops. I guess they're going to either pass it around or maybe they have duplicate laptops for all 12 of them. So these laptops have all the ones. have all the approved evidentiary stuff and all the things that as per the judge, it has been approved for the jury to see, okay?
Starting point is 00:24:14 So the laptop is ready. And so Garagos is saying, by the way, keep in mind, they spent all weekend working on this. The judge says just email it to the chambers, okay? So I'm guessing that is, maybe it's not a laptop, maybe it's like a PDF then, I don't know. The justice all rise. The juries come in.
Starting point is 00:24:34 He says, I'm going to read you to the charge. It's long, but I'll try to make it interesting. You have now heard all the evidence in this case, as well of the final arguments of the parties. I will only instruct you on the law as I give it to you. The evidence is testimony. The answers and the exhibits are evidence. Well, the answers and the exhibits are just evidence. And the arguments are not evidence, but the exhibits and answers are evidence.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Okay. You are the sole and exclusive arbiters of the facts. What is reasonable doubt? Well, it's based on your common sense. After carefully weighing in all the evidence, you may weigh each witness credibility, the truth and the importance of their testimony, size him or her up. You must decide.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Sean Combs has been formally charged in an indictment. The indictment is not evidence. Count one charges from 2004 to 2024. It's a racketeering enterprise. Count two, 2009 to 2018. Sex trafficking of Cassie Ventura. Count three, from 2009 to 2018. Transportation of individuals, including but not limited to Cassie Ventura for the purposes of prostitution. Count four, from 2019 to 2024, sex trafficking of Jane Doe.
Starting point is 00:25:59 count five from 2019 to 2024 transporting individuals including but not limited to jane for the purposes of prostitution each count is separate for attempt hmm what what was that me for attempt the u.s must show intent and substantial steps taken mere intention does not oh okay okay okay yes so they have these statues whereas like, sometimes attempted murder gets put under a murder statute, right? So certain things will be attempt. Like, for example, they had pursued or initially claimed they wanted to pursue Ditty for arson and attempted arson.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Okay? So they're speaking to all these charges that have attempt, right? And they're saying for attempt, the U.S. must show intent and substantial steps taken. Mere intention does not amount to an attempt. Aiding and abetting means knowing some act to aid or encourage a crime to be committed. For RICO, the U.S. must prove that from 2004 to 2024, there was an agreement between two, see, between two or more individuals for a racketeer and a enterprise. Now, chat, this is going to be a really interesting one. Remember, KK doesn't come in until 2016. So the co-conspirator KK isn't until 2016, but here's the thing. D-Rock is there the
Starting point is 00:27:44 whole time. So D-Roc is going to be the person who is the first co-conspirator because he was there before KK. Okay? I believe, I believe that timeline is right, right? I don't think KK was listed in the indictment pre-2016. Anyway. So again, none of these co-conspirators are charged, right? Cool. The agreement between two or more individuals for a racketeer enterprise that impacted interstate commerce that the defendant joined and committed at least two predicate acts. The U.S. must prove a mutual understanding to cooperate.
Starting point is 00:28:28 you may infer its existence of the circumstances in this case. Actions may speak louder than words. You may consider the acts of all those you find to be the participants. If you find that the Combs Enterprise existed, you must find whether it continued in a substantial similar form from 2004 to 2024. The people could change. As to the defendant being a member,
Starting point is 00:28:56 he had to know the existence of the enterprise. prize. The U.S. alleged eight predicate offenses. Okay, wow. They're doing some text and speech stuff here. I can tell because like, predict a no, predicate offenses. Kidnapping, arson, bribery, witness tampering,
Starting point is 00:29:13 forced labor, sex trafficking, transportation of prostitution and intent of to distribute narcotics. Chat, we've discussed these before. I said this was BS. I think this is BS. Witness tampering is BS. I think forced labor. I'm going to say BS as well.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Sex trafficking, I'm going to say yes. It's probably closer. Transportation for prostitution, I say yes. Actually, iffy on the sex trafficking, right? We can't tell if there's sex trafficking, because I don't think there's clear sex trafficking here. And transportation of prostitution. I think that's a yes.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Intent to distribute, I say no. So I think there's one predicate. If you're asking me, I'm not on the jury, so, you know, whatever. I think there's one clear predicate offense. I don't think you kidnap none of these people. I don't think we have proof. I think he did do the kid-cutty shit, but I don't think we got proof that he burned the motherfucker car up.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Bribery, if he didn't know there was a fucking investigation going on, I don't know. Right? Like, was he tried to bribe? Probably. But, like, again, it's not what he's trying to do is what he did according to the law. Right? So all of these things he may have done. Not saying he ain't do none of them.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I'm saying he may have done all these things. But the evidence that we got through the trial, I don't think it supports this, this, this, witness tampering, or this. because he didn't know sure he was in the grand jury. Forced labor. I don't know. That's kind of iffy. Sex traffic, I think that's 50-50, just because of Cassie.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And then transportation for prostitution. I say, yes. Intent to distribute narcotics. No. Unless, you know, the AUSA gave us a flip of intent to distribute in their closing. And they said, you don't have to intend to sell the narcotics. Buying drugs to pass out at the first. free coughs is intent to distribute.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I'm like, okay, I guess so. So I don't know. You know, he needs to get found guilty of two. He needs to prove that two of these offenses happen in a 10-year succession, okay? The judge says, kidnapping does not have to occur if the victim consented. Okay, so cannapping does not occur if the victim, okay, this is why I believe the victim, the victim's 100% Like, for example, like, there's an evidence where
Starting point is 00:31:31 kidnapping, like, I don't know if we kidnap Mia, if Mia says, oh, no, I want to go do the, like, I want to prove my loyalty because she act, they said, why did you do all this stuff and did the, what are you going to get, the, lie detector test? And she said she wanted to prove her loyalty, right? She wanted to prove that, yo, I'm down with the program, right? And I'm honest and loyal. So she consented.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Now, here's the thing. I want, consenting under coercion is still kidnapping. If somebody has a gun to your head and says, go in there. You're like, okay, I'll go in there. That's not consent. So, you know, obviously there's this
Starting point is 00:32:16 whole thing. It's a dark cloud hanging over this case about people's words versus their actions. If Cassie says, I'm horny and I'm going to get someone to come fuck me, and I'm going to have a wild king nut or a freak off. Is she saying this willingly or she's,
Starting point is 00:32:32 or she's saying this because she's scared? And she's been financially coerced in all these things. See, that's what the jury is going to have to like, that's the biggest decision I think they got to make. You know what I mean? Like, the biggest decision they got to make is, do you believe that these people, even when at times, they say something,
Starting point is 00:32:51 do you believe their words versus their actions? Or do you believe their words understand versus their actions? and their words at the time. For example, Jane Doe gets mad at Diddy. Diddy tells her, bitch, you could kick rocks, leave. So good, get out of here. Skiddle.
Starting point is 00:33:09 She still stays. Now, if you listen to Dr. Hughes, who did testify, she's a victim. And she's, they said there's, there's part of victimhood where you feel stuck. You can't go anywhere. You don't want to go. Okay, perhaps.
Starting point is 00:33:25 But again, you know, the jury has to make this decision, right? It's like, oh, okay. So there's three kidnapping cases, right? Three kidnapping accusations. You brought Mia to a warehouse for four days in a row to get a lie detected. But she said that she agreed because she wanted loyalty. She wanted to prove loyalty.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Is that kidnapping then? The prosecutors are alleged in that. They're saying, well, she really didn't want to go. But if she didn't go, she would lose her job. she knew Diddy was scary Diddy got one of her scary bodyguards to bring her there Okay Cassie
Starting point is 00:34:07 Cassie's supposed to get beat up gets put in a hotel that she could recover What happens Cassie goes We didn't see any conversation about Cassie saying I don't want to go to the hotel Actually supposedly Cassie was invited to come stay at one of Diddy's cribs
Starting point is 00:34:29 To recover and then they agreed, oh, okay, you could go to the hotel. Seemed like she's agreeing. However, there was this idea that she just got clobber. She got beat up. So could she properly consent? Maybe she's still scared. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:44 You got to make that decision. That would be the jury that has made that decision. Then what's the other case? The other case is Capricorn Clark. Diddy comes in supposedly banging on her door with a gun. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. She opens the door. What up, Diddy?
Starting point is 00:34:59 he says get the fuck ready we body go kill kid cuddy she happened in the car with ditty did he has a gun on his lap she gets taken from one place to another kidnap supposedly against her will she did not want to be there however when she testified she never said ditt threatened her she never said she couldn't say no she did say she was scared is it kidnapped this is what I'm saying like this case is going to be so interesting it's going to be so interesting um most likely because if you like diddy or if you don't if you think oh these bitches are lying you're not going to think the worst you're going to be like nah man like yeah was he a freaky ass bull like yo he a freaky ass dude he gay whatever but these chicks knew what it was and
Starting point is 00:36:06 da da da da da you know I got a lot of interesting things over the weekend you know what happened to fall in my lap I don't know if this is true we responded but I reached out to this individual several several times for to do an interview with them he was unwilling
Starting point is 00:36:36 now it's being returned to me that apparently Rodney Jones Lil Rod wants to do an interview they reached out to me I'll see if this is true Lil Rod the guy who and shit I'll read you, I'll read you the email. You want to hear her email?
Starting point is 00:36:53 It's the email right here. Good morning. We represent Rodney Jones, who as you know is one of the main reasons. Sean Diddy Combs is facing life in prison. His lawsuit was used as probable cause, which is true, for the raids on Diddy's properties. In the beginning, Rodney spent five days with federal authorities that helped build this historic case. Little Rod would love to interview with you and share so much mind-blowing. information. This comes from a reputable
Starting point is 00:37:20 publicist. Okay. Let's see. Down. What do you think about that? It's a lot, man. This is going to be a wild, wild week, chat. This is going to be a wild fucking week. Just remember I told you that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:53 So, it says bribery of a witness on a California law requires that the co-conspirator gave or promised to give a bribe to a person given or about to give information on law enforcement to unlawfully influence it. Hmm. Hmm. Now this is, again, this is another iffy charge here, Chad.
Starting point is 00:38:15 I'm telling you, if a verdict comes back today, they either everybody on that jury pool hates, did he, or he's innocent. There's going to come back with an innocent verdict. Here's why this is also tough, this bribery thing. It's kind of like when Donald Trump paid off that woman like she was a prostitute
Starting point is 00:38:43 he cheated on his girl he smashed this like porn star or whatever he only got indicted because they're claim it's not paying off the girl like that wasn't the crime the crime was
Starting point is 00:38:52 you you try to fudge it and use campaign funds because here's the thing someone like Donald Trump you want to keep people silent from saying things that's going to hurt you
Starting point is 00:39:03 right that's normal like you know and that's what did these lawyers argue hey we never try to interrupt no federal investigation or any investigation period. Diddy just doesn't want smut on his name. If he paid off anybody's because he didn't want a video coming out.
Starting point is 00:39:19 That could make him look crazy. Could devalue him. That's reasonable to me. Again, I think he'll be reasonable to a regular person, but who knows? You never know how the jury's going to think. So the argument of the prosecutors, bro, you knew. you knew you were under federal investigation. And you know what they're using?
Starting point is 00:39:44 And they said this during the cross. Did he told one of these chicks? He told Jane, he told Jane, I can't, he says, this is after the lawsuit filed by Kat. He said, I can't really talk on the phone. I can't really talk on the phone. Then he told somebody else, I just want you to jog my memory. So why would someone say they can't talk on the phone?
Starting point is 00:40:06 is it because of a civil case or you don't want to get out in the press? Nah, maybe you think your lines are tapped. Why would you think your lines are tapped? Maybe you think you're an investigator. So that's how the prosecutor's looking at. No, he was clearly trying to tamper witnesses. He was telling them I can't talk on the phone.
Starting point is 00:40:28 One of the other situations, he has DRock hit up Mia. He's like, yo, Mia, everything good. So yeah, now a puffer's trying to get in contact with you, trying to make sure, you know, everything straight. He wants you jog his memory real quick, no? She's like, yeah, I've been low on a little scrylum. D. Rock says, you need some bread? We can send that over to you. She said, no, no, no, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:40:49 He said, well, Ditty's going to call you soon, okay? Just pick up. Did he call? She doesn't pick up. They're thinking that's a bribe or witness tampering. Did he know that she was going to be in this case? Did he know that she spoke with federal prosecutors? Did he know that she was in the grand jury proceeding?
Starting point is 00:41:10 We don't know. So, again, that's just. All of these charges, chat, they're not clear-cut. And the RICO alone, I think, today, they're going to argue about that for hours. They have eight predicate acts. All of these, there's multiple instances the prosecutors allege of these predicate acts. And they have to vote and narrow it down and see if there's two, along with if there's an enterprise, and along with who's the co-conspirators, and along if, you know, they've been doing it within a succession of 10 years.
Starting point is 00:41:42 It's all of that. Somebody says, Yeah. So the bribe, yeah. So there's two things to do with bribery and witness tampering. Given the guy the Intercontinental Hotel the money. But Diddy's team is saying that's because we don't want it on TMZ. We don't want it in the media.
Starting point is 00:42:17 It's going to turn its reputation. It's not about hindering an investigation. Actually, they even doubled down to say police were never called. That's a good defense. Y'all never even called the cops. How the hell could we... Now, granted, there is... You heard what the judge says.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Bribery is... requires a co-conspirator to give a bribe, or promise to give a bribe to someone that's given information or who was about to give information. Now, here's the thing. Nothing in that, in what the Flores do testified,
Starting point is 00:42:53 admitted that he was going to... He never admitted that he was going to call the cops. He never said that. The only person who said the cops was ditty when he was trying to get Cassie back. You see, you know, the cops about it come. But they never said, and the guy never testified, oh, we were going to call the cops. In fact, the cops weren't called.
Starting point is 00:43:15 So that, I don't think, is bribery. Even though it would look like bribery, but there was no investigation. The cops never investigated this. What's the other bribery thing? it's Mia and then Dawn Rashad No what well no actually was going to be of Kalana But Kalana is fully down with Diddy she's not doing it
Starting point is 00:43:38 Because Diddy called her 88 times While they were trying to get her to come to grand jury But she's so pro Diddy Clearly she was not flipping And apparently her husband is like Still worse with Diddy somehow whatever the case So you know The prosecutors let go of that
Starting point is 00:43:56 But Don Rashad she got to threaded she got thrashed on on the um stand okay but it's mea yo mea you're running low on money you want some bread that's when they were trying to recount her time with thiddy so they're thinking that's a promised bribe or witness tampering now here's the thing one thing that the prosecutors or the defense team did and this is why like everything we're saying all of these charges of money but the two prostitution charges in my book. With bribery, usually, it also matters if you say an amount.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Oh, yo, I got 10 grand for you. If it's just like, yo, I got something for you. That's vague. I'm not saying it's not bribery, but it's vague. They like for you to put to a dollar amount to it. So what Diddy's defense team said was, well, we weren't the person who brought up money in the conversation. Mia brought up money
Starting point is 00:45:07 Mia said she was running low on cash D-Rock didn't even do that on behalf of D-Rae when he said what he said next which is do you want me to send you something D-Rock did it as a friend if you asked me for money and I say I got you that don't mean I want you to do A, B, C, and D
Starting point is 00:45:28 so that's the defense's argument on we never bribe this chick or tried to. We never said in the amount. They brought up money. They said they were low on money. We said, all right, we got you. Saaba.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Chat, I'm trying to sit with Unk. I'm trying to sit with Unk tomorrow. I'm going to coordinate my schedule that me and Unk, we do tomorrow. Me and Lauren Collin today, me and Unk tomorrow. And if we do end up getting to a place where we're doing three days, and we go to Wednesday this week without a verdict, I will see if I could somehow get everybody in the same room. Me, Lauren Conlin, logic, and even unc.
Starting point is 00:46:22 You know? They'll be good. All right. The judge says, a person may withdraw consent. Okay, okay, so, all right, but it must be knowing. Okay, so, oh, so for witness tampering, it's a violation of 18, USC 18 section 1512 B3 it doesn't matter if the subject of the threat is in fact fearful Okay
Starting point is 00:46:49 Only a threat is required So witness tampering they would have to be a threat Now remember witness tampering we have heard about threats be made like did he was just like remember with the Mia thing Yo yo listen you you you fuck this up like I think they had said like generally, but if she felt like it may have applied to her, yo, whoever took that man's jewelry and whoever failed is like lie to take to it, y'all think he's going, yo, their body's going to end up in the East River. Facts.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Y'all think he's can't steal from the big didster like that. The Diddler ain't going to take that. But that wasn't a person who was going to be a witness. That could be probably used towards maybe the coercion that that's why kidnapping happened. You know, like, yeah, she couldn't have consented. Y'I was threatening her to fucking throw her in the East River. So witness tampering is probably going to come. from anything after the
Starting point is 00:47:45 Cassie lawsuit. Who was he talking to? What happened then? When he was trying to jog everybody's memory, Mia, Don Rashad comes from Jane Doe. Right? Yeah, even though she didn't testify
Starting point is 00:48:02 anything about Did he doing things to her to make sure she doesn't testify. She didn't testify to that. Okay. But it must be knowing. Okay? So it must be knowing. that it was a threat made. For forced labor, okay?
Starting point is 00:48:19 For forced labor, 18, section 1589A requires use of force or use of physical restraint. Well, that's going to be interesting. Because forced labor means that if you don't do it or you don't work, you get your ass beat. well, they say that the sex work was forced labor for Cassie and Jane. If they didn't suck that escorts cock, you know, one of those. They also allude to pretty much forced labor for these inhumane work conditions of these assistance who would be working 18 hours a day. But I don't know if that's the thing that will be. I think they're going to focus on the forced labor of Cassie and Jane.
Starting point is 00:49:17 In one specific instance, in one specific instance, I believe Cassie took some bad pills. She took some bad pills. Wait, what happened? Am I missing something? What are y'all typing in the chat right now? Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Hold, I got to get to the chat. In one instance, Cassie took some bad pills. Cassie threw up. She threw up. Diddy told her, girl, get it together and get back on out there and finish up. Diddy would talk to Jane Doe, Daphne Joy, and give her words of encouragement to say,
Starting point is 00:50:10 we got to finish strong. She would say my pussy sore. I can't do this no more. Diddy would have two more niggas lined up. Remember, sometimes they were doing all-star freakoffs. She's saying, I'm sore. Cassie said, I got sores on my tongue. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Cassie would tell her, I got a UTI. Diddy would say, let's finish up strong. Get all your job. Didi puts Bill Belichick to shame. Got an ACL injury? They can get back out there. The fuck? Y'all good?
Starting point is 00:50:55 I know we got a couple extra people in the building today. We got a couple extra people in the building. All right. Ruger Red, thank you for all the gifted membership. My wife. Panda, what up? Thank for the five. So hit that like button.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Everybody hit that like button. We're on Verdict Watch today. I'm bringing Lauren Conlin, Lavin, in person Calli for Life says Act State prayed up Give it a God And leave it there
Starting point is 00:51:17 Rock Nation arms Two box Too short the box For the Almighty God is a way of humbling folks Like no one can It's crazy Thank you
Starting point is 00:51:24 Thank you Yeah Puff was on his coach Carter vibes I agree with y'all I said Kobe played on a broken leg God damn UTI You gotta fuck three niggas Like Jesus Christ I'm not a female
Starting point is 00:51:39 But I can just imagine A urinary track infection Is killing you. It's killing you. Her tongue has sores on it. And Diddy was still saying, no, you need to suck that nigga's dick. Any? You know, my chat queens
Starting point is 00:52:00 are just too classy individuals in here. Beautiful ladies. I don't even want to ask some type of crass questions because they want to get down that type of behavior. But just for inquiring minds, any of my chat queens in here if it sucks some dick till you got sores on your tongue? What type of shit is that? Do we got a witness in the building? Does anybody could testify to that? That's what happened when you suck too much a day i don't even think that's normal i don't think that's
Starting point is 00:52:23 normal any y'all chat queens ever suck so much cock that sores was on your tongue what's that commercial how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roller or a tootty whatever the fuck that is how come that motherfucker never had no swords on any time how to how much penis are you sucking this is getting out of hand i could tell you that diddy was on some coach car the vibes he ain't give a fuck about an injury diddy said he was set up a free week off, the girl had to send the picture of her period blood. Chat, let me tell you this. Any of my players in here, a chick by to come over,
Starting point is 00:53:10 if you don't really know, like that, if it's your girl, maybe that's different. But she's like, yeah, I'm on my period, but I think it's like the last couple days. You're like, no, stay home, girl. Stay the fuck home. She don't got to tell you. Just stay home. You're chilling with her, whatever. I get a little freaky.
Starting point is 00:53:24 She's like, oh, I'm on my period. You don't be like, let me check. You're like, nah, you good. You good. You straight. for did to get a to get a hall pass out of these freakoffs they had to send the peer blood nigger look at it nigger here's a tampon nigga here's a tampon nigga i am i am out of commission what's going on right now that is what they doing did he wasn't taking no for an answer
Starting point is 00:53:47 all right so all right some of you are freaking here sandy cardina told my is she spotting or nah brown skin dragon says mad flavor heavy flow Wait, brown skin dragon, if you got niggie, wait, you got niggas eating the box on your period? Okay. Thank you, my boy. Whatever man, 23. I'm with you. I don't need to see the pictures.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Even if you're lying, I'll take you at your word. Because here's the thing, you have to realize, you know, a lot of women have, are supposed to have some type of decorum in class. You never know. It's like a petri dish down there. It could be a bad vagina date that day, you know. I don't know. Maybe she's fucking one of the people
Starting point is 00:54:40 She got a little yeast infection BV or whatever She ain't trying to tell you that It's embarrassing She told you show on her period She ain't you know She she don't want you down there right now Don't ask some more fucking questions
Starting point is 00:54:48 Keep it moving Get a little head Keep it moving motherfucker Right But if you like nah man Fuck that Now we need you in this freak off Three things ready to fuck you
Starting point is 00:54:56 Interesting Interesting Interesting The judge says A person may Withdraw consent And it may Become forced labor
Starting point is 00:55:08 Sex traffic Will have the same definition in counts two and in counts four. In transportation and engaged in prostitution, it will be the same as count three and count five. The judge says next is distribution of narcotics, including this long word that you've seen here knowingly and intentionally. Distribution actually means the transfer, which means
Starting point is 00:55:43 delivering it from one person to another. For possession, physical custody is not needed. Control is enough. The judge says, so basically what we've realized, the AUSA was right, selling drugs is not necessary for distribution of narcotics. It's only having control of them, whether in your possession or your control, and sending it out or giving it out,
Starting point is 00:56:20 knowingly and intentionally. So as long as the transfer happens, that's kind of interesting at that point, right? Now, here's the thing about this particular predicate offense under the RICO statute, right? All of these, though we've read, forced labor, witness tampering, kidnapping, I don't think they talked about arson yet,
Starting point is 00:56:44 but they all fall under the recal. So they're still on the first count. Now, I'm going to tell you why this is interesting about distribution of narcotics. Well, if everybody was drug addicts and everybody wanted drugs or they were taking drugs, is it reasonable to say that other people had the drugs and they had it under their control
Starting point is 00:57:07 or maybe they're now just blaming it on ditty? Could you 100% say that Cassie wasn't buying drugs herself. By the way, the defense proof Cassie did buy drugs at times for personal use. Matter of fact, they even highlighted a portion where Diddy was upset that Cassie, Cassie's friend, I believe Kerry, or was it maybe Mia? It might have been Mia because me and her were close. Mia allowed her to take drugs. And she says, why do you keep letting her get so high? What that shows is that not all the times Did he, there was drugs around, Diddy was the one in ministering it and the one in control of it. However, does it means that he was never the one?
Starting point is 00:57:51 No. And does he need to be the person doing it all the time? No. But that gives a little bit of reasonable doubt, if you ask me, to the minds of the jurors to say, how do we know that these people didn't request it from Diddy or didn't ask for it or didn't buy it? or didn't buy it. And, yeah, they were using, Ditties is a financier because he got the money,
Starting point is 00:58:12 but they're getting drugs for them. Also, we have no drug charges. We have no dead to rights shit that, you know, maybe like a recorded thing. Well, I mean, they have KK, but KK's not there. They don't have none of Dibby's messages that say, hey, I'm texting you. No, no, I'm sending this.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Actually, did they? I'm sending this drugs to you. I'm getting the drugs. Now, there is stuff of D-D-D-D-Bying drugs. There is stuff of D-D-D-D-E-Bying drugs. And that's going to get a little murky as well. The judge says RICO has a five-year statute of limitation. You must find that it continued past 2019.
Starting point is 00:58:59 If you find that the government has not proved this beyond a reasonable doubt, you must find the defendant not. guilty now that's going to be very very very important people this is a huge line and this line could help ditty avoid jail let's speak on it let's say we're in the thought of saying well cassie cassie was sex trafficked and by the way this is why they have cassie sex trafficking as his own charge, which is count two. We ain't getting there yet. But the Rico might erupt at this point.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Let's say you say, nah, he definitely did all that shit. Up until he met Jane. Up until he met Jane. Because that bitch is a freak. That's 50 cents X. That's a fucking freak. These behaviors didn't continue past or post Cassie. They must choose to vote not guilty.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Diddy is not guilty of Rico. if they cannot prove all of those eight things or any of the two of the eight things didn't continue past 2019. So let's think about it. Let's go back to the eight predicate offenses of Rico. Kidnapping. Was there any allegations of kidnapping post-2019? Was there?
Starting point is 01:00:37 I gave you three. Cassie to the hotel. Mia to the thing They could quiz her about the stolen jury Capricorn Clark To Kit Cuddy's house All of those things happened beyond Five years
Starting point is 01:00:55 Arson That happened in 2011 or 2012 Beyond five years Bribery Well that did happen in 2024 They're accusing that bribery and witness tampering Happening and that's why I think Those two things were important
Starting point is 01:01:10 they had to throw them in there because otherwise it's only going to be sex trafficking that kept happening, right? Well, well, transportation, that's a gimmee. That's a whole gimmee thing, right? Well, I guess the drugs, too. Okay. So the things that we know for a fact, so when the jury's sitting down, they got to prove, first of all, is the statute of limitations correct, right? Which, by the way, they've kind of done that already, but it's a different type of vote because they did this in grand jury. They got a grand jury to say that that happened.
Starting point is 01:01:40 But now we've had the trial, some of these things just fall flat, right? But that's not, it doesn't matter if it's true or not, because this is about time period of the allegation. We can't get to, is the allegation truth? Time period of the allegation. There is no kidnapping charge or allegation in a predicate offense sense in the last five years. There's no arson. There is bribery. There is witness tampering.
Starting point is 01:02:09 there is forced labor because they kind of matched up with sex trafficking. The forced labor of Jane Doe, sex trafficking of Jane Doe, transportation of prostitution, Anton and all the mother doves, and Jane Doe, intent to distribute narcotics. Yes. So they have six, so it's pretty much six, that they have to at least believe that happened. Now, did these things happen?
Starting point is 01:02:36 That's later on in the discussion, if I'm thinking out they're going to be deliberating. Okay. So cool. So here we go. So if the Rico didn't continue past 2019, it's not guilty, right? Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:57 This is the most important moments of Diti's life. I would love to see and hear. I would love to see and hear. I would love to see and hear how he's feeling today. how he's looking today we've heard about his body language when the closing arguments
Starting point is 01:03:25 was being made they said Diddy wasn't sitting next to the chair like this he was like this like he fell back in his chair he fell back in his chair just kind of like almost like really nigga
Starting point is 01:03:39 that type of shit when his defense team did their closing arguments they said Diddy was up here with it and he was like nodding and yeah you know so ditty's body language changes and i would love to see what the body language is today i would love to even know what he wore today you know this is very important
Starting point is 01:04:08 this is the most important i think it's going to happen in three days if it happens today it's crazy but i think it's going to happen in these next three days and this is going to be super super super important for did he in how he presents himself does he come off like a pompous arrogant person I'll give you an example give you an example um now this is civil court civil court not federal court and this is not a united states jurisdiction but Connor McGregor he got found liable And that's what they say in civil court. It's either you're liable or not, you know.
Starting point is 01:04:56 It's not guilty of doing something because a civil jury does not take precedence on you commit in a crime. They take precedence on if you're liable for the crime being committed, which they don't need beyond a reasonable doubt. They need a preponderance of the evidence or the preponderance of, you know, the preponderance of, you know, which means just a majority's majority rules. Now, I'm going to tell you why I bring this up. Okay. He since appealed the lawsuit, but I'll tell you why I bring this up.
Starting point is 01:05:40 According to people, and I watch a whole long thing, there was a journalist that was in there watching every day. They said Connor McGregor showed up to court, like how he shows up to the ring. chest out walking up in there wilding like he about to go to a UFC fight
Starting point is 01:05:58 scoffing that shit he was arrogant pompous he was acting like yo I'm too good to be here y'all peasants
Starting point is 01:06:09 got the chance to lay your eyes on me that's enough it's like an appearance they humble them real quick guilty well well you found guilty but um libel
Starting point is 01:06:20 they found liby right lost the case they believe the bravado in which he, I think he may have taken the stand. I think he may have taken a stand. I think he may have taken the stand. Yes, he did. He did.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Apparently, when he was talking about, when he was talking about the woman, he was basically saying, man, are we serious? This bitch wanted that shit. Stop playing with me, man. on, man. That didn't play too good in court. The arrogance, the pompousness. So I bring it back to the Diddy Trial and I say, you know, Diddy is the first time we've seen Diddy dress in age-appropriate clothing.
Starting point is 01:07:12 They said Diddy is wearing them, he's dressing like Bill Cosby from the Cosby show. He got a little sweaters. Like he's dressing like a huxtable, you know? This is how he's dressing. He, he wearing shit like this now in court. You know, it's like, it's very, yo, I'm an older guy. Yeah, this is ditty up in court.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Take it easy on me. Right? Take it easy on me. Don't do, don't, don't, don't do me too crazy. This ain't pop-pop. This ain't pop-pop, chat. Man, this ain't pop-pop. This is, this is Cliff Hustle.
Starting point is 01:07:55 You get what I'm saying? And, um, that does matter. when you're looking for these people to perceive you as maybe someone wrongly indicted. I know they try to get that in the closing arguments, was the judge made a, had to make a verbal correction to the jury, but they're trying to come off with this approach,
Starting point is 01:08:21 because remember, Dini's lawyer, Marking Niflow literally said, they targeted him. They're targeted him. He wants to look like someone, you can't look like, you had a top don dada and people feel bad for you being targeted. Now if you look a little meek and little like like damn, look at him. This nigga grayed up from the beard up. Nick is fully great. He's dressing different.
Starting point is 01:08:48 It's intentional. It doesn't look like pocket square like, you know, double-breasted like suit. No. Let's keep it. Let's find it. This is the first time did he ever look his age? Did he's 55, I think. How old is Diddy?
Starting point is 01:09:07 First time. When he was running around with young Miami, he got a button up on that's tight as a motherfucker with three buttons open up. He wanted you to see the chest here. You know what I mean? Not like that in court, clearly, right? So I would love to hear from the people in court to hear how did he up in there rocking.
Starting point is 01:09:29 The judge says on the sex trafficking, which is counts two and four, a transport means to take and convey from one place to another. Reckless disregard satisfy the statutes. Okay? The deliberate closing of eyes, you must be unanimous on at least one specific instance of sex trafficking. You got to be unanimous. I think one incident
Starting point is 01:10:03 And I think their strongest incident Or actually two incidents for Jane Doe 50's baby mom is going to be when they say Well She had gotten her ass beat And then He called over Anton
Starting point is 01:10:21 And he forced her To fuck him Remember Sex trafficking It means force fraud or coercion. Well, if you just got your ass to be, that's force. And then the other instance
Starting point is 01:10:39 is when she went for her birthday and she flew somewhere and she said, for my birthday, I just want to be with you, Diddy? Just you, me and you. I don't want to do a freak off. And Diddy said, sorry, baby girl, we're going to go out, we're going to do nice things.
Starting point is 01:10:57 We ain't doing no freaky shit, none of that freak off shit. simultaneously did he hit up an escort and said yo link up over here he lied to her that's fraud he told her you're coming here not to do a she shows up he has her doing a he lied that will be fraud there's a coercion that's in all of these situations because they're saying he coerces them with his money, his fame, his resources, hanging a career over their head, hanging their house over their head. And that's how he coerces them.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Let's keep it going. Here we go. The judge says prostitution is engaging sexual activity for money or its equivalent. You must be unanimous on at least one specific act of transportation with intent. to engage in prostitution. On venue, the U.S. must prove at least one act occurred in SDNY, and it's eight counties. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:39 So because they charged this in SDNY, and I don't know if you know this chat, they could have charged, and here's the thing. It depends on how bad they want, did he? even if dby beats his case he could still get brought up on other charges in other states take r kelley for example r kelly had two federal charges or federal cases that kind of captured some of the same behavior but they were looked at differently for how they were being charged so they might have called him on a okay this is your recal charge here that's a predicate offense then they would bump it up a standalone charge in another place, right?
Starting point is 01:13:25 So a lot of the, if we're going to say prostitution, it happened pretty much in Miami and L.A., but also New York. So it says prostitution is engaged, is engaged in sexual activity for money, or it's equivalent. Do we believe that Jane Doe was having sex for money? Now, here's where it gets tricky. She's getting an allowance. She's getting an allowance, people.
Starting point is 01:13:59 What we never got into was the details of the love contract. If the love contract had said, you have to fuck me 15 days out of the month and you get 10 grand. That would be very profound and really dead to rights. You got Diddy. But it's reasonable to assume that Diddy was just taking care of her. Now, did she have a financial interest that may have encouraged her to do certain things? Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Is that flat-out prostitution? And I'm ad-lib in here, but I believe this is true. I think this was a reasonable assumption. You have to somehow have the agreement to say this money is for sex. Because otherwise, anytime you have sex with a woman and say, I don't know, afterwards, or say later or say before. you bought her lunch and be like, no,
Starting point is 01:15:08 you buy her lunch was for the sex. Like, that's not, that wouldn't be a fair way how to try to prosecute because basically anyone you have sex with
Starting point is 01:15:14 you could never exchange money with, right? Because it could be seen a certain way. It could be seen, interpret it. And a lot of stuff is up to interpretation. So I got to imagine
Starting point is 01:15:25 there has to be some agreement. Yo, you're giving me this for that. So you must be unanimous on at least one specific act of transportation and on the venue,
Starting point is 01:15:37 the U.S. must prove at least one act occurred in the Southern District of New York. This is why they kept using the Trump Hotel in New York. And they're trying to prove that that's where a lot of the freakoffs happen. That's why they showed the bill. There's a lot of like, you know, they show the bill of the hotels because they're saying this happened. And within the Southern District of New York, Manhattan is there. Okay? Manhattan is there.
Starting point is 01:16:13 The judge said, we're in the home stretch. In weighing expert testimony, you should not just accept it because I allowed it. The testimony of the government officials are not worth more or less weight than any other witness. Witnesses given immunity should be examined with greater. I get, with greater, I don't know what that word could be. Sorry. Greater scrutiny, I guess. than ordinary witnesses.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Charts and summaries, demonstrative aids, they're not evidence, and will not be available to you in the jury room. Scott, Dark, Darkwest, thank you, my boy, for the tennis. I'm a trucker man, I took the month off the road, and I'm back out here now. I'm excited to catch up on all this news from the trial and the industry. While I drive, we appreciate the hours you put into this.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Trucker chat. I'm telling you, man. I love my truck drive. My truck driver is in my delivery guys. You guys, I'm telling you, y'all are the people who, y'all probably watch the entire stream. Not saying everybody else doesn't, but I know y'all watch the whole stream.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Y'all be having, you got to stay up. And if I do a service to you by helping you stay up while you travel all across the country, I appreciate you hopefully just like how you appreciate me. All right. The judge is giving these instructions. It's getting there. Did he does, yeah, see, it's these type of outfits.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Look at, look at this. So what? Why to put Diddy heels? But Diddy does not look. You got to put the gray here. Got to put the gray here. You got to put the gray here. It's getting down to the wire, people.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Getting down, down to the wire. It appears they might start deliberating that lunch. Let's try to get on the tweet. Still waiting. Still waiting. Okay. We need to figure out Who is this? I want to see how they show up to court today How are they showing up to court today? I'm trying to see anyone who knows anyone who uh Here we go. Here we go, chat. We got it
Starting point is 01:19:23 This is how they showed up today June 30th Wow, very different um this was kind of somber right very different energy Sometimes we see them coming in Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like this time I think they're realizing this process is over. They finally got bodyguards now with the suit on. Why this looks like ice from the Joe Button podcast?
Starting point is 01:20:04 This looks like officially ice from the Joe Button podcast. Am I tripping if I make an assumption about body language? They don't look the most upbeat. they don't look the most upbeat okay yeah this is how you look when he's taking up this suit about to fill with you
Starting point is 01:20:44 he looks like to this is just okay yeah Quincy been there no it's not Quincy this is a Christian Christian been there the whole time he looks a little down
Starting point is 01:21:12 I could be reading wrong into this this is Justin here looks like he had a lot of his mind I'm not fully understand it no here comes the girls. Yo, these, these twins right here matching,
Starting point is 01:21:47 matching hairstiles, matching outfits all the time? Like, damn. Who's that? Here's the mother. Who's that? Lawyers, I guess. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:50 We are down to the final moments, people. Chat, could we get a preliminary, we need a vote. We need a vote. Let's run it for as long as we can. on YouTube, we need a vote on. What do you think the verdict is going to end up being?
Starting point is 01:23:08 Do you think that Diddy will be found guilty or innocent? We'll keep it that broad right now, even though we have to go down per charge, which is five. Here we go. On section, okay, can we read this already? Certain witnesses were permitted to be identified by pseudonyms. That should bear on your evaluation of credibility. the defendant had no responsibility to testify, and he did not. You must not attach any significance to that.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Voluntary intoxication may negate the intent requirement. Ooh, that's another thing. Remember at the beginning, I said that Diddy was doing something adjacent to an insanity plea, where he was like, yo, I was drunk this whole time. So basically he's saying that, like, yeah. And remember I told you, it was to try to, like, let people understand that if you, see these mood swings or like outbursts is no i'm drunk i'm high that that's not me now we get to realize where it really plays in is going to negate the intent requirement so voluntary
Starting point is 01:24:25 intoxication may negate the intent requirement of the recall predicates uncalled witnesses yes you've heard the names of people not called as witnesses each side had an opportunity to call them do not speculate or consider this. It's going to be very important when he says voluntary intoxication may negate the requirement. Wow. What are you all thinking? You know when it comes to that Cassie beaten video, Diddy wants to say he was drunk.
Starting point is 01:25:17 He got in a fit of raise because he was intoxicated. He wasn't trying to sex traffic her and bring her back to the room for the freak off. In actuality, she never went back to the room too, sex. Now, the prosecutors came back and said, sex trafficking doesn't mean she had to have sex after the beating and you pulling her back to the room. Sex
Starting point is 01:25:41 trafficking means that you pulled her back to the room with intent to have sex. What Denny's also saying, I was drunk, bitch. I was drunk. I was off that motherfucking Taramana. I was off that liquor, man. I was off that. Blame it on the juice,
Starting point is 01:25:57 blaming on the alcohol. Blame it on the two-see, blaming on whatever. Blame it on the pills, the ecstasy, to Molly, blame it on anything, the blame it on the cocaina, blame it on something else. That's a pop-pop, not guilty? Now, I think this is a weak statute, or not statute, but weak explanation about voluntary intoxication saying they could negate, and then they say may, and say does, may negate the intent requirement.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Here's my thing about that. If the pattern of behavior is from two, 2004 to 2024 and some of the violence and the other behavior has continued all throughout those years. Did he went to rehab?
Starting point is 01:27:05 If you had to know, he went to rehab at a time. But it continued after that. So if you're saying that it was the drugs, you claim you got help with the drugs and then you still did the behavior. You even did one called the sober night.
Starting point is 01:27:20 The sober night. Remember? They had a sobriety night. Remember, this is after the all-star freak off. Jane, though, complained about the drugs making her feel not good. Also, Diddy, Did he a real freaking nigga. Diddy brought a prostitute that was musty. Body odor kicking on a thousand.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Jane said, I can't fuck him. I can't suck that dick. That dick, that smells disgusting. Then Diddy said to the prostitute, he could go. And I'm colloquially calling them prostitutes, even though none of them have admitted to be prostitutes. So we're going to just call them, I won't even call them sex workers.
Starting point is 01:28:09 They're really, they're escorts. They're escort people. But for the idea that drugs fueled all of this and anything you saw did he was a mastermind of, maybe it was only because he was on drugs, he did do this as well sober. He did this as well sober. Chat, I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:28:45 That's the true definition of a sour D. Yeah. Diddy wanted her to suck the dude up when the dude was musty. The dude was musty. Diabolical, people. Very diabolical. Nate Dogg, I see you, my boy. I see you. I see you. I see you. There's a lot of people. I'm getting a lot of things, too. There's a lot of stuff going on. Let me see what long crimes got going on. So there are so many going on. The breaks, including breaks, ought to look pretty similar than what they did while they were hearing testimony.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Okay, so I guess this is a... By the way, chat, I've been looking for juror number six. Juror number six, you have been dismissed from the case. Big Act wants to talk to you. Big Act needs to talk to you. We have to speak to somebody who's a juror who is. sat through this, and yes, he was dismissed because of a candor issue. However, we wanted to get his perspective.
Starting point is 01:30:24 He was a blackmail. What did he feel? And where was he leaning to with all these charges? Did he think, did he was guilty? He sat through the entire trial. The entire trial he sat through. Instructions, does the jury get to understand what their job is once these deliberations begin? So there are always general instructions, a series of general instructions, having to do with their obligations as a jury, including, but not limited to things related to evidence as a general standpoint.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Here's how you're supposed to weigh evidence. Here's where common sense weighs in. I'm not quoting, you know, from exact jury instructions, jury instructions, but they do cover what their conduct is supposed to be as jurors, how they're supposed to weigh evidence, and then the specific causes of action themselves, okay? As it pertains to, you know, racketeering, this is what needs to be shown. And then there's sometimes there's some supplemental instructions or some instructions that go into a bit more detail about each of the causes of action. So there'll be general instructions about their conduct, the things that they're supposed to do, and how to weigh evidence as well as things that are specific to the causes of action themselves.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Again, it's supposed to take a couple of hours and then it will be in the jury's hands. A couple more comments and questions coming in. I have to shout this one out from Nat Laie. He says I'm having a great hair day. Says, Chris, your hair is beautiful. Dr. Hendricks, I'm going to turn to you right now. Someone asks here, I'll get their username in a moment. This is from Sparkle Thickness 5728.
Starting point is 01:31:55 Is P. Diddy getting any sort of special treatment as he's been held at the MDC? No, and I think probably the only special treatment he's probably given is where he's being housed in the East Building of MDC is set. There's two buildings. There's the East Building and the West Building. The East Building is mainly for the cadre inmates who are what we call. You see, these outfits.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Trustees, inmates that could move about freely throughout the facility to work and program. So he's in an open-based setting. And he's housed with probably about 15 to 20 other individuals that are awaiting trial. Typically, as someone who's faced Noriko charge will be in the West Building with other inmates that could either be terrorists, could be major drug dealers, or violent criminals. So I would say probably the only special treatment he's receiving thus far is where he's being housed.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Because if he is convicted, those... Now, that's a little bit different than what we heard from... But even though this is state prison, Yahu, Wack 100 Tory lanes. He said the floors in the jail is... I've seen it somewhere. said Tori got, Tori has Louis Vuitton floors or something like that. And I was like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:33:25 I got to ask Wacky who's trolling. Is it this? They don't care about PC versus General Pop, like, honestly. He's totally wrong because that wasn't a GPR. It was a PCR. Oh, he's in a PCR. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Yeah. So you got to remember. Okay. I got it wrong. Now, this is what's crazy. Thank you for clarifying. This is crazy. Now, I know we're kind of beyond looking at what did he's jail, you know, jail standards are,
Starting point is 01:34:04 and it's definitely not comparable. He's in MDC. Really a tough place to be, unlike Tory that's in California State Prison, which as much as, you know, prison sounds worse in jail, but prison gives, because they plan for a longer stay, they give you a little bit more of a nice regiment and a little bit more amenities. But it, you know, it gives you some, the reason why we went to trial is because Diddy really couldn't take jail. And I mean, no one could really take jail.
Starting point is 01:34:35 But like it's he wanted to get out of there as quickly as he could. And he exhausted all his options for bail. And as soon as he exhausted, he said, yo, yo, let's go to trial. Fuck it now. And that's why the dude was a child. That's just that's why he was in PC. Oh, Torrey just went where they placed him. he's not a Crip, he's not a blood
Starting point is 01:34:54 Once he gets there Oh shit, this is what they call Tori was just gonna matter if he goes to PC or not Yeah I know what the inside of his cell looks like Huh Literally Okay
Starting point is 01:35:07 I seen the painting He got Louis Vuitton floors Okay I don't believe that part I ever told you some BS Tori Laines has Louis Vuitton floors in his state prison cell. Do you I believe that?
Starting point is 01:35:26 They said Torrey Lanes is dripping even in prison. Now, I'm going to be honest with you. I would call a cap on that, but there's a famous rapper. I promise you. A famous rapper, I won't say the name. And this happened probably over two years ago,
Starting point is 01:35:43 but I still won't say the name because they're still incarcerated. The nigger FaceTime me from prison because he said, act, I need you to follow my new Instagram because I think the feds took his last one.
Starting point is 01:35:57 I said, I need you to follow my new shit. So I'm popping out here. I'm like, okay. The nigga had on a Cuban chain, I swear. The nigga had on a Cuban link chain in jail. I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 01:36:09 So it is possible. It is possible. And yes, that was federal custody. R&B. State presence cell. R&B. Did Tory Lane have Louisville,
Starting point is 01:36:26 bro. Yes, he did. You saw this. I saw it. I'm going to find it. I'm going to send it to you. I got it. What is the material made out of?
Starting point is 01:36:35 He got a hold of paints. Oh, it's just painted Louis Vuittite. Browns and golds? The nigger who called me, the nigga who called me had a legit cubling. And I look at him, I look it on his neck and I'm like, what the fuck? How does Wi-Fi work like that in there? I would think that I have the Wi-Fi block.
Starting point is 01:36:56 I don't know. He was just like, yo, I run this shit. I'm doing whatever I want. I'm like, I would not say that man's name. I'll just put like this. I was scared of him in jail. I'm scared of him free and in jail. I'll leave that one alone.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Shout to him, though. Shout to him. Hopefully he gets out some. Conditions that he's currently in will definitely be different. Joe, I know you're a regular on long crime. Kelly B's 6, 578 says, oh, it's Joe again. Hi, Joe. I think he lives there. So it's a good info.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Okay. So she's... We knew that Cassie was working with the feds. We knew that she had powerful statements, and she was up on the stand for multiple days of both direct and cross. And I think she did a really good job of laying out so many facets of her relationship with P. Diddy, especially the fact that she started, you know, meeting with him when she was 19 years old in the entertainment industry, that she signed this 10-album deal and only produced one because she alleges that Diddy. stifled her career and then of course to see the intercontinental video and then hear Cassie's testimony in regards to all of it she said she left now what do you guys think about this
Starting point is 01:38:09 portion of it so through the through the direct examination of Cassie Ventura while she was on the stand it was kind of made to say Diddy did not pursue or want to what had no interest in Cassie's musical career and he made sure she was unsuccessful blocking opportunities doing X, Y, and Z, because he wanted her to find her true calling, which was a freak off two-time Hall of Famer, all the badges. That's what he thought her true calling was. That's what she pretty much agreed with prosecutors while they were questioning her. However, on defense, they then prove not through Cassie was subsequent things when they had a financial officer up there they had other people up there and they proved they said Cassie was one of the most supported artists on the label
Starting point is 01:39:08 if not the most so they claim Cassie didn't get lack of support by Diddy she got more than what she was warranted because she was Diddy's girl who do you believe who do you believe who do you believe? Do you believe that did he blocked her from being a star? Or did he tried everything he could fucking do to make her a star? And when she couldn't be a star,
Starting point is 01:39:44 he said, come on home, baby girl. I got a starter spot for you on the freakoff squad. Got all type of badges. 99 everywhere. Hall of Fame throat. I don't know about Hall of Fame box
Starting point is 01:40:06 because I ain't going to lie. This nigga still fuck me up. This guy still fuck me up I haven't going to lie to you This nigga still fuck me up Like I hope this Did anyone prove that this nigga was telling the truth or what Because this was diabolical chat
Starting point is 01:40:19 I'm still in awe I'm still in awe that chat I'm still in awe I'm still in awe I'm still in all chat I'm still in all Here we go I know I'm never to be able to ask her this question
Starting point is 01:40:41 But her vagina walls I don't want to make myself sound like I'm trying to aggrandize myself but I used to when Cassie and I would have sex I would probably take less than 20 strokes to make her orgasm I never orgasm really because the problem was the fact that she's not tight and the baby oil um the baby oil was a problem the baby oil kind of made sex impossible for a man to enjoy baby oil made a loose a loose vagina looser than it needed to be so it was literally like a constant it was like being hell, being constantly tormented like I was going to have an orgasm, but never being able to
Starting point is 01:41:19 have an orgasm because she wasn't tight enough to make me orgasm. But she's orgasm in back to back. I mean, I'm in her 20 strokes. Oh, my gosh, she's squirting all over the bed. And then I'm like, yo, can I, can I get something? I need a second. I need a second. There was, I think there was a period why.
Starting point is 01:41:36 This thing is a liar, man. What is entertaining? Yo, how come the liars are the best entertaining people? I had sex with Cassandra, and this is the truth. I don't think I had one orgasm in six months every time I met him. Cassie Walls. I know I'll never be able to ask. They didn't put you or Rico on the stand.
Starting point is 01:42:06 No, because they knew we were going to say that she was complicit. Like, I feel like they had to do some changes when it comes to the laws behind that because if girls are choosing to have a pimp, and the pimp is there to protect them and ensure that they're not getting mistreated during their encounters with men and stuff like that. And they have to pay the PIP for protection because, like, how is he going to make money? You know, to me, even though, yeah, he did all this shit. But I feel like the feds, they love a big cash out.
Starting point is 01:42:37 $400 million is at stake that they're going to seize. I don't think he'll have money for an appeal. Justice Department will inherit $400 million that was, I guess, made off of sex trafficking or illegal criminal crimes using this organization, bad boy records and all that stuff. And meanwhile, they get to retire off of that money. And it's like, why are you allowed to retire off of money that you say is made legally and y'all get to use it to pay federal witnesses and pay for your retirement as well, too?
Starting point is 01:43:06 The money should be burned, right? Nobody should get the money. True. And it should definitely go to the true victims, some of the male prostitutes as this has happened to. Wait, the male escorts are not claiming their victims? Hold on now. I wonder if you remember these guys, this guy right here. This one time the entire living room was dark, which I thought was weird.
Starting point is 01:43:35 But basically in this encounter, what she does is she keeps the room dark so I can't see the fact that she's menstruating. She kind of seduces me into thinking that we're going to have sex regularly because, again, I don't know she's on a menstrual cycle. She gets on top of me. She grabs my member. She inserts it in her because she's already wet. She's on her menstrual cycle.
Starting point is 01:43:53 She orgasms real quick. and then I push her off of me, cut the lights on, and it literally looks like the St. Valentine's Day massacre. It's blood everywhere, and she's heavily on her period. So I'm pissed. I'm like, I said, why would you do something like that to me? This is disgusting. Tasha, the girl is totally shitting on me.
Starting point is 01:44:12 She's like, so what? So what? And she's arrogant about it. So Diddy's sitting there watching it. He's her man. He's her protective. I'm getting more and more. Oh, so according to this guy, I really think this guy's cap.
Starting point is 01:44:24 But let's go on to like the, 5% chance he's not. Let's go on the 5% chance he's not. Let's go on the 5% chance he's not. His idea is that Diddy was a pimp, and he looked at Cassie like a hole that Diddy was pimping. Really? Progressive.
Starting point is 01:44:57 I'm calling her nasty B-I-T-C-Hs. I'm pissed. He says, yo, you know something, bro? You mad, cool. It's been like six, seven years. I'm not going to lie to. She knew she was on her period. She just really wanted you to come here.
Starting point is 01:45:08 you see how we was calling you you see how she demanded you come so she has sex with you he was like yo it was wrong i'm gonna give you some money calm down it's not do this we've been seeing each other too long he really used to try to be immediate i'm not going to lie he goes in the room he gets me like five thousand dollars he comes out he gives me five thousand dollars to stop arguing with her tasha i stopped arguing with him he says yo go checking in your room he gives me a key from my suite in the bever hills hotel i take my five cash i go to my room i go to sleep i wake up the next next day. She calls me that night. She apologizes about the night before. She says, listen, I was drunk. I'm on my period. I was horny. You really disappointed me by the fact that you didn't want to come.
Starting point is 01:45:50 And she said, yeah, what I did was wrong. I'm sorry. I should have told you I was on my period. She totally apologized. So how could you get on the stand and tell the stand that Diddy made you have sex with me when you know for the fact that, for a fact that I know that that's a lot? Yeah, I think this guy's like a plant and like he's, he's there to just make Diddy look good. Because he's kind of saying the opposite of like what the prosecutors are saying and he's saying that's why they didn't put him up there because the prosecutor knew he would expose that Cassie was willing was a participant and she wanted it most of the time there was one sex worker he said that he got paid five million dollars because he contracted herpes from did he from cassie I believe him
Starting point is 01:46:34 when I saw that interview I knew that the things he was saying was the now again we haven't heard any sex worker admit that Diddy was fucking them. So if they did contract something, they contracted it from Cassie, right? Because according to all the sex workers, and there is an MO, a modus operandi, where Diddy would just allow those people to have sexual intercourse, the male sex worker and Cassie, and then he would go play with the semen like Plato in the other room, and then he would have his turn with her. There was one sex worker that did admit that Diddy told him to watch out.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Like, it was like, yo, it's my turn now to fucker. Like, wait, get out of it. the pussy real quick. It's my turn now. But Did he never was ever intimate? We've never heard from someone who admitted that Did he was intimate with them as a male sex worker, okay? Because I didn't see Jonathan Odie's interview
Starting point is 01:47:22 until 2021. And when I saw it, he said I was a sex slave for Cassie. It was like, oh my God, this guy's talking about my life. This was me. Because he was like, gonna kill Trump. And then he comes out with this interview, I am a I was a sick slave. And we
Starting point is 01:47:40 looking like what? He was younger. He was more attractive. You know, just like me, I'm older now, but at the time I was bigger, I was younger. I was younger. I was more attractive. It was easier if you were in that lifestyle and you had a certain type of body, the seat, the chest, the arms. It wasn't really hard to be noticed by the right people.
Starting point is 01:47:56 So I got noticed by Cassie and that was pretty much history. Somebody just said in the chat, do you think that, um, did he had erectile dysfunction? Do you I think did he had erectile dysfunction? By the way, I was watching this And yes, we're still going through Jury instructions. I'm waiting for some more tweets. Don't you worry. We're doing all hands, 360 degree
Starting point is 01:48:28 coverage of this ditty case, and we're going to give you every portion of it. Oh, damn, look at Lauren. It's day 26. All right, Lauren. All right, shirty. You know, Chad, I might have to put that shit on. I'm going to meet her today.
Starting point is 01:48:41 I'm going to put that shit on. Dr. Umar wouldn't approve. Dr. Umar. All right, let me see. What am I trying to Google here? Real life street stars? Okay. So the Punisher claims that he got erectile dysfunction
Starting point is 01:49:09 because he said, and I want real niggins, but also like, you know, obviously my chat queen's in here to chime in on this. I was watching this last night. I was in here like John cleaning up. a little bit and not stream. What he said was he felt he developed,
Starting point is 01:49:30 he said the situation with Cassie and Diddy helped contribute to why he had erectile dysfunction. So he developed a case of erectile dysfunction and it came from, he said he was always drugged up during sex. And even admitted he said, yo, all these like performance enhancement pills
Starting point is 01:49:49 that he would take number one, he couldn't nut. I'm being a little bit crass here, but I'm trying to keep it on some shit that makes sense. He said he couldn't orgasm because he was always jacked up on pills and he was taking pills so much that without pills he couldn't get an erection. Let me have him explain it for a second. Now, so the way it was set up was she testified before me.
Starting point is 01:50:15 So I was involved in stations and I'm on the phone. and I told this group with this circle of dudes from my gym on a group chat that had happened. This is on trial. I'm testified. I was investigated for what I really thought. I thought maybe he was like licking it. You know what I'm saying? That's what I thought.
Starting point is 01:50:35 So he's going back to, he said, there was specific instruction on how he had to come on her. All around the outside of. And the reason why I suspected it was, there was, it was like mandatory that I had to finish each section, each session orgasm. And it had to be specific. It has to be all around the outside of her vagina. You know what I'm saying? And what made me kind of figured something was going on with it.
Starting point is 01:51:04 And honestly, what I really thought, I thought maybe he was like licking it. You know what I'm saying? That's what I thought, right? But I don't know. I didn't see. That's what I thought, right? But the cue was, I would do it.
Starting point is 01:51:18 And so mind you, I told you, I told you, all the houses are covered in sheets. We start wearing towels. When I would finish, she would never wipe off. He would get up, walk out the room. She would follow him. And she would follow in a way to make sure it doesn't come off. So I suspected something, but I didn't know it was the nipple lathering.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Okay. Let me, we have the tweets, we have the remaining amount of tweets until the judge like dismisses people, so let me get through them right now. So the judge says any notes that you took are only for you. No outside reading. You're to consider only what was presented within the four walls of this courtroom. You may not communicate about this case, including on X, Instagram, or YouTube. If you see this, tell my deputy. He says, don't be swayed by the bias, including implicit bias. These hidden thoughts can impact what we hear or see and how we remember it. You will now retire to consider the case.
Starting point is 01:52:18 Each of you must decide the case, for him or herself. After deliberating, your verdict must be unanimous. If you are divided, do not report the specifics. Your foreperson will send out any notes, any verdict.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Any communication with the court should be in writing. The alternates do not have to be there, but have your phone number to my deputy. You may be called to replace a juror. You will be called when a verdict. his reach. The alternates are 234, 247,
Starting point is 01:52:50 292, 321, and 330, those in the top row. The judge says do not read any news report about this trial. If there were any, if there were to be any, please accept my heartfelt gratitude for your service over the past two months, and even
Starting point is 01:53:06 more, my deputy will provide my personal contact info. I could give you a tour of the courthouse. The alternates now leave. The judge says, here's the verdict sheet. Only if you find the defendant guilty of count one, answer to each predicate. Not proved or proved. And did sex traffic involve Cassie or Jane?
Starting point is 01:53:28 Count two, three, four, and five, we need to hear not guilty or guilty. The judge says from now on, your schedule is on your own. You will be provided with meals. Now the marshals will swear you win. They get sworn in. Now the jurors can head back to the jury room and I want all to rise. AOSA Johnson says We object to the including of the subject lines
Starting point is 01:53:50 of the Blackberry messages like I'm so horny. Wow, this is like the 10th hour objection. Wow. Estabio says it's common for exhibits to include subject lines. BlackBair message are more akin to emails than to text messages. Judge says let's have only neutral lists go to the jury. I'll trust the parties to provide an appropriate laptop to the juries. I'm going to stick around for a bit,
Starting point is 01:54:15 but we may stay. here for as long as they wish to deliberate. At the end of the day, we'll bring them in. The judge says, I appreciate the congeniality on both sides in this case. Anything more before we adjourn? Comey says, no. Can we go to another floor of the courthouse and talk, I guess? The judge says, just give us your cell phone numbers.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Adjured. Okay? So we are now in deliberation. Okay? The jury will be deliberating. this could take any amount of time possible. Okay, here we are, Matthew Russell Lee, intercity press, here at the Southern District of New York Courthouse. Today, Monday, June 30th, 2025.
Starting point is 01:54:58 It's day 33 of U.S. versus Sean Cohn, including the possible verdict today. I mean, deliberations will begin. Whether the verdict is today, we don't know. Jury instruction will be read by the judge and wasn't put into the docket. It's just kind of unfortunate. And then deliberations will begin. And at any time. Now, I'm assuming that there'll be some notes, and we'll be obviously live tweeting that.
Starting point is 01:55:19 The notes that come out, often then there's a negotiation of how to answer an oral question, legal question. And sometimes they'll ask for testimony, and then they've got to go and redact it. Hopefully they've done a lot of the groundwork for this, because they're facing a deadline. And we'll get to in a moment, as with the quote-unquote, and I'm putting it in a quotation marks, big beautiful bill, there's a deadline. Now, this deadline, whatever, July 4th is a holiday. If the Diddy verdict jurors do not reach a verdict, they'll just have to be coming back on Monday. They could conceivably come in on Thursday, but I don't know. I don't know if we'll get that long.
Starting point is 01:55:55 Let's transition. Actually, no. It's still yet more on the Diddy Docket. We put up Week 7, The Book, Closings to Deliberations. It's actually the longest one so far because there were a lot of words last week. Two long closings, and we covered them, and we also have some analysis in some other case but weren't. So check that one now. I think that's on numerous other crypto case.
Starting point is 01:56:16 Okay. Okay. Okay. Here we. I want you guys to watch that a little bit, but let me see what's going on here. They have adjourned. So the jury is now deliberating. Whenever they're back, it went, whenever they're back, they'll pop up back in court.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Thanks. Did you ever, did you ever? ejaculate in her like maybe it was like you got one off and he's like oh let me put nah no no and a truth for the matters I never I never had a I never had a I never made it to orgasm from from penetration got you we would always do to that's interesting and I'm not speaking about how loose her stuff is or whatever but everybody says that with cassie they don't ejaculate from penetration number one i don't think that's really all cassie's fault i think there's this high pressure moment you know you're supposed to perform when you then find out as diddy
Starting point is 01:57:34 there's like just much more burden of expectation because you now especially this guy he didn't he thought it was the only one fucking cassie he didn't think did he had a bunch of other people doing it so He's thinking that, yo, all the pressure is on me because I'm doing something that Diddy can't do. So it's very pressured, you know? Penetrate because I was medicated up, man. I was on a bunch of pills. I don't know if you ever over-medicated on pills, but you go numb. You can't feel nothing, right?
Starting point is 01:58:04 So we would always finish sex and then I would have to rub it out. I had to rub one out. So it was very direct. Huh? You were seeing cash in after natural? Or you said you was on the pills? Oh, I was on every pill I could find, man. Like, I was uncomfortable, so I had to...
Starting point is 01:58:21 In your book, you described erectile dysfunction as freezer meat. Yeah. That name is wildestful. How did you come up with that name in particular? All right, so real talk, how I got the name. I was on vacation with this girl. We was in Turks and Caicos. And so we on this beach...
Starting point is 01:58:38 Turks and Caicos got this beach, man, where you could walk like a mile out into the water and it comes to your waist. Yeah, yo. bomb, right? So we out there, and during this time, I was already dealing with the kind of erectile dysfunction issues, but it was mental. But I'm out there in this paradise, and I didn't get anxiety, and we're messing around in the water, and I got brick. And so when we're messing around, she reached down, and when she grabbed me, she said, damn, this thing is hard as as freezer meat, right? So she said it to me, and at the time with me already dealing with
Starting point is 01:59:13 erectile dysfunction, getting that type of compliment was like, oh, you know what I'm saying? So that always stuck with me. And at the time, I didn't realize it was anxiety causing it. I came back with some dumb, yo, it must be the Caribbean. You know, you get that sun and the sun from the Caribbean. And so I believe that was it. But it kind of set a standard that I was trying to get back to. So I named the book in search of freezing.
Starting point is 01:59:37 For men that are dealing with that, like what would you tell them, some things that they can do to come back from in that situation? I mean, what I would tell them to do first and foremost is you got to understand it's mental, right? It's mental. And so what I was doing that was messing me up was I kept trying to fix a mental problem physically. Right. Was it stemming from the cashy stuff? The Cassie stuff contributed.
Starting point is 02:00:09 That's why I put it in the book. So hold on, I'm grabbing chick-fil-A. my lunch before I go meet Lauren. And a lot of dudes is messing up. You got a lot of guys that's younger that's using pills and using enhancements that really don't need it. For sure.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Right? So I started the same thing. I started taking pills in my 30s when I didn't need it. And then you get into a scenario where now you're dependent on the pill. And if you get into a situation with pressure, because we all every now and then meet a girl that's like, yo, I got to put this down. I want to make sure I come correct.
Starting point is 02:00:40 And if you run into a scenario where you don't perform, now you're thinking the pill didn't work for me. And so in the Cassidy-Ditty situation, what I would do is you're supposed to take one pill 20 milligrams and going into that situation, one pill 20 milligrams was good, but the anxiety made me take, next time I'm going to take two pills.
Starting point is 02:00:59 Next time I'm going to take two pills in a honeypack, whatever, and that don't do anything. Your blood vessels can only open up so much, and that's what pills do. So when you overdose on pills, it ain't working no more for you. But anxiety creates, cortisol, which constricts your blood vessels.
Starting point is 02:01:16 So I'm taking all these pills, doing all these things, not addressing anxiety. So I would tell a dude, first thing you've got to understand that is your mind, right? And then once you understand it's your mind, then you play around what remedy you're gonna use and get yourself as comfortable as possible. And if that still doesn't work, you know,
Starting point is 02:01:36 like I say in my book, there's other things you can do. And I kind of chronicle all the things that I did to fix it leading up to the ultimate thing, which is an implant, you know? But so and the biggest thing about it is don't give up. Yeah. What was the worst thing that was causing it through your chapter? Like what was the worst thing that you figured out for you that was causing the anxiety? So the worst thing that figured it out and, and, you know, I got to keep it this way.
Starting point is 02:02:05 It's the feedback from your lady or the woman that's in your life, right? You know, it's already as guys, as we get older, we already understand we ain't the same dude when we was in our 20s. You know what I'm saying? So you're gonna feel there's a difference. Even if you're still doing your thing sexually, you ain't that guy, right?
Starting point is 02:02:25 And so what killed me was I had a woman that I was into, I'm dealing with her, I'm thinking I'm holding it down sexually, and then she ended up cheating on me. And when I asked her, what for? She blamed it on me. Oh, well, you weren't coming correct. I wasn't satisfied I had things I wanted to do. So when you...
Starting point is 02:02:45 I ain't going to lie, man. I think they stole my Chick-fil-A gang. It's just crazy. I went out there. I don't even see that shit, bro. It's all good. All right. Is my man Sean G on?
Starting point is 02:03:02 No, Sean G. going to give it up. Sean G. going to give it up. What long crime is hitting for right now. We are on jury-watch chat. I think they're going to probably opt to take lunch. I mean, they're adjourned. So it's like... The judge says, and by the way, there's a timer here.
Starting point is 02:03:35 The judge says they're going to be sticking around. Let me see. Who should we go to? Yeah, Logic ain't even giving us some updates, man. What's up with my boy? Okay. Yeah, this thing has done a million. My very first encounter when I showed up for what I thought was a party,
Starting point is 02:04:15 Ms. Rintura agreed. I quoted the price is $200 for a dancer. She gives me a location and a time, and I show up to do a little show. Hmm. And that was when you met, was Cassie that reached out to you? It was Cassie that reached out to me. Okay. And then after that, you know, and I want to make this clear. I'm not looking to, I have nothing against Giddy what the did he whatsoever. I don't know him. I only know what I'm hearing and what people have told me. But, you know, in my, my position always is innocent until proven guilty. He's got a trial. He'll go through the process. The jury will make a decision. And we'll see what happens after that. So I'm not here. to lay anything heavy on ditty or anything else.
Starting point is 02:04:57 I'm just having a conversation with somebody that's in the know about certain things. And then, you know, you kind of noticed some things with Cassie. This kind of evolved into something more than just the one-time deal with you, correct? Yeah, I mean, in total, and I don't even have an exact amount. I estimated eight to 12 times, and it was over a period of two and a half years. So, honestly, it could have been more. It's 12, 13 years ago. I don't have a clear indication of how many times or whatever,
Starting point is 02:05:29 but I estimate eight to 12 times. And you got involved in these, were you given any specific instructions? Because I know you got involved in these freakoffs, correct? Yeah. So my specific involvement was always the same. And so my very first encounter when I showed up for what I thought was a party, Ms. Ventura greeted me at the door and a robe,
Starting point is 02:05:52 which you can tell she was. So the minute she opened the door, it was an obvious scenario that this was going to be different than a party. And so when we went into the room, obviously there were no guests. It was just me and her at the time. And, you know, we got to kind of like the living room area of the suite. And I still, you know, tried to go the route as if it was a party. So I asked her, hey, where do you want me to change? And she immediately explained to me, look, I don't want you to dance.
Starting point is 02:06:21 me and my husband, we like to create a scene where we want you to change into underwear or a towel and she pointed into the living room area, which was dimly lit, kind of a sexual ambiance. And all the furniture was covered with sheets. And she said, look, you're going to sit here, I'm going to be here. It was two couches adjacent from each other,
Starting point is 02:06:46 and we're going to put baby all on our body and create a sassy and environment. environment and at some point my husband's going to come out to watch. And then she specifically told me when her husband comes out, I'm not supposed to look at him. I'm not supposed to acknowledge them. I'm not supposed to speak to him. I'm supposed to do my best to act like he's not even there. And she handed me a handful of money.
Starting point is 02:07:08 I counted it when I got into the bathroom and at that time it was $800. So I originally called her 200. So now I got this beautiful woman in front of me. She hands me four times the amount. And it's like, well, hey, I'm going to try to make this work because, you know, it seemed like a nice payday and simple at the time, you know? Was that the first time you met Diddy? Were you sure Diddy? Well, so here's the thing.
Starting point is 02:07:32 I didn't actually see him, right? When he did come into the room and that was we, I came out the bathroom with the towel and we started making this scene. And at some point from my peripheral, I could see him walk in the room. but he situated itself all the way across the room, kind of behind a table, it's like a table and chair set up, and he ended up being there. But the odd thing about it was he came in the room pretty much nude, but he had his face covered with, I believe it's called a hijab or burqa.
Starting point is 02:08:08 And this is what the Muslims women wear, where they completely cover their face. You can only see the eyes. So I really had no idea who he was. Initially coming in, I didn't recognize Cassie. She had on a wigs. Yo, that with a Yankee had is crazy. So the distinguishing stuff that would point her out there, her hairstyle,
Starting point is 02:08:27 because at the time she had like a shaved hairstyle, it wasn't able to be recognized. And I really had no idea who they were to much further into the encounters. So at this point, I mean, it's a true encounter, but there was nothing criminal or illegal done at that point. during the whole session, I would say. Yeah, nothing criminal and illegal about the session itself. I mean, the only, I guess, illegal scenario would be is the prostitution itself,
Starting point is 02:08:58 because it was money in exchange. But this specific situation we're talking about, there wasn't even any sex. My very first encounter, I was told it was creating a scene. We created it. We just kind of rubbing oil on each other. and she would do matching gestures. I would do the same, but there was no actual sexual activity between us.
Starting point is 02:09:23 And then at some point, who I'm thinking is her husband, Mr. Combs, got up, he left the room. She followed him out, came back and told me, hey, that was great. It was perfect. Thank you. Handed me an additional $1,200, and said, hey, look, I'm comfortable with you.
Starting point is 02:09:41 When we come back to town, is it okay? if I call you again. And I'm like, absolutely, sure. And she did at that time offer me the option to finish. She said, hey, do you wanna finish? Which, you know, I understand to be, did I want to? And I actually declined. You know, I wasn't comfortable with the situation.
Starting point is 02:10:03 And I'm trying to be professional, right? Because I believe with the circumstances are. So I said, hey, look, this is not about me. This is for you and your husband. If you're good, I'm good. In hindsight, I take that question of her asking him to finish, or if he wants to finish, they're trying to get that nigga nut. Yo, Diddy's doing some weird nut harvest and shit, bro.
Starting point is 02:10:26 Got to be. And we, and I declined finishing, partially in transparency because the, the uncomfortability of the situation, I probably would have had an issue getting in a reaction and fiction anyway. So I declined, and she said fine. and from there I headed home. And was that the only encounter you had with her? Or were there more? No, that was just the first.
Starting point is 02:10:52 Like I said, it went to 8 to 12. So the next encounter, it was pretty much the same, but it was conversations prior to the sexual activity about my sexual health, her sexual health, and the desire to actually do more than just a rub down. So that's when the sexual encounters started. And let me ask you, Shire, this was considered a freakoff, right? Even though there was only just the two of you and did he present?
Starting point is 02:11:21 Because my impression was that there were always a lot of people present at these freakoffs. Yeah, I think there's a misconception that, you know, Mr. Combs is he's known for throwing these elaborate parties. That you can go to a place of the party and I guess there's sexual activity. And then there's these kind of scenarios with Ms. Ventura, where it's just him, her, and a male, and another male creating a sexual environment. And that's being described the same way. So it disappears that anything that he does with a sexual nature,
Starting point is 02:12:01 even on a smaller scale, all these huge parties, they're all going under the same umbrella as Freakoff, which I don't know if that's accurate, but that's what everything is being described at. I know when I see myself reported in the media, it says I was a part of a freak off. So this is considered that. Got it. During any of this time, did you ever see any indication that Cassidy might have been in an abusive situation with Diddy?
Starting point is 02:12:27 Not at all. Not at all. I always felt it was consented. I always felt everything was, I always felt she was in her right frame of mind. Not she didn't appear to be under the influence of any drugs or anything like that. And I know. It really surprises me that they brought this guy as a witness. Does he seem credible? Yes. Does he seem credible? Yes.
Starting point is 02:12:52 But he's not really saying anything but. Oh, okay. Yeah. I was an escort or a dancer at first. And it kind of turned into them paying me for sex. But he's kind of saying that none of those acts were non-consensual. Never seen any interaction between them. that seemed something that was distressed for her.
Starting point is 02:13:17 The only thing that I did say in my testimony was that I saw moments of what I would consider frustration and her reaction, but that was based on directions. Like, during our encounters, he would give directions, which was mainly about his candle. It could, you know, move the candle, move the candle a little bit more, move whatever. Can you move to the left, move him to the right?
Starting point is 02:13:41 You know what I'm saying? Like these things, and sometimes they were repetitive and very specific. So I would see maybe like a, you know what I'm saying? Like that type of stuff. But nothing that would resemble her being in distress. Do you know, were these being filmed at all? Or they were just encounters for his pleasure only?
Starting point is 02:14:01 So I don't know. I don't know. It was always in a dark room. And, you know, it could have very well been a camera or something set up. but nothing that I knew was present or that I consented to. I had no idea. Yeah, the reason I ask you that, because I think, you know, part of the allegations against Diddy
Starting point is 02:14:24 is that he would have these films so that he can have a blackmail. And again, these are the allegations not coming from me, that he would be able to blackmail if anybody would turn on him. But you didn't get any indication of that. No, no. I mean, I could have very well been filmed, but I have no idea. Let me ask you on cross-examination, how did the defense try to portray you?
Starting point is 02:14:47 Did they try to beat you up at all? Did they try to discredit you? No, that was surprising to me because it was actually the opposite. They actually took a route of creating more credibility. So I guess once they heard my initial testimony, and I'm saying I didn't see any aggression. It seemed consented. my attorney, I think his name was Xavier Donaldson, he went the route of bringing up the fact
Starting point is 02:15:15 that I've been a male entertainer for 25 years. And it's accurate. When you walk into a room as a male entertainer and it's a room full of women you never met, you have to quickly assess the room because you're trying to entertain them in a sexual nature. So I have to read the room to make sure whoever I'm going to is comfortable with the activity.
Starting point is 02:15:36 So he kind of harped on that. Look, you've been doing this 25 years. Would you ever go to dance on a woman or engage with a woman who was uncomfortable with you interacting with her? And the answer is absolutely not. You know, I have to be able to read the room, get to a woman's comfort level, and assess that.
Starting point is 02:15:55 So then he kind of shifted that narrative to the situation with Mr. Rintero. Well, look, based on your knowledge, your expertise of doing this all these years, because if you would have noticed her being uncomfortable or in a place out of her mind or not in a proper state, would you have proceeded? And the answer is absolutely not.
Starting point is 02:16:17 So I was expecting kind of a tough, because all of my, you know, they do the mock courses. Right. So, and their expectation was to be to discredit and stuff like that, but he actually went a completely different lane and provided more credibility. Well, that makes sense to me because I think their major defense here in all of this is that all of this was consensual.
Starting point is 02:16:43 Nobody was abused. Nobody was forced into this. Nobody was physically abused, but this was all consensual relationships. So it would make sense that they would treat you that way. That's why I asked that question. Did Cassie ever, you know, say to you that she was, obviously we saw the video of what happened in the hotel, so we know that there was that one. incident. But did Cassie ever express to you that Diddy was abusive to her in any way?
Starting point is 02:17:11 No, I mean, we actually, other than very, very cordial, initial conversation, you know, when I would arrive, hey, how's work, house things, or whatever, we didn't get into a lot of personable conversation, you know. It was kind of like stuff. So in terms of her confiding and me of anything that could have been going on, it was. I mean, most of the conversation was, again, just checking in on what's going on with me and surfacing. One time I had like a scar on my arm. She mentioned, hey, I got some scar cream, gave it to me, tried that. And she more or less just thanked me for keeping their identity and what they do private, you know,
Starting point is 02:17:57 in terms of, obviously this has been going on for years and they didn't get any feedback indication and I'm talking about it publicly and putting their business out. So no, absolutely not. I had no indication. And when this ended with you, did it just, you just weren't called anymore? Did it end on a good note? Or they just didn't need your services anymore? How did it end?
Starting point is 02:18:22 So I never had a full reason why it ended. But my assumption was it had went a long period of time where I had not been called. maybe about six months and during that period of time um i had an injury i tore my bicep so and anybody knows about that injury it's a rough injury you can't work out you can't do anything it's a long healing process so after going through that healing process and getting called me myself i know the physical condition i'm usually in is not the same and also with that long period of times were in kind of like a tool scenario. And one of the directions were very specific.
Starting point is 02:19:07 We were doing kind of like preliminary stuff. And one of the instructions was he wanted to see penitics. So he kind of walked over in the middle of us doing a massage thing. And he actually threw up like a lot of condoms on the couch. And he basically says, I want you to. You know? And honestly, the time in between. was never really a comfortable scenario for me anyway, I couldn't perform.
Starting point is 02:19:35 So I always assume the fact that I could not perform that time, and I'm showing up months later, not in great physical shape and stuff like that, I kind of felt like, well, this is a fail. I did not make the fantasy that I was hired for. So I assumed that could be a reason why I wouldn't be called back. So that's my assumption. But that's kind of how the last situation went. And that was the last time I was called. And you never spoke to Cassidy again after that?
Starting point is 02:20:06 No communication. That was right. Nor did he? No. So here's the thing. I never had communication with Diddy the entire time. No. Ironically, I never spoke to him.
Starting point is 02:20:17 I never had even direct eye contact with him. The first time after all these instances that I had direct eye contact with him was leaving the courtroom after I testified. Wow. And I think it's fair to say, Shire, that you have no interest in which way this turns out. You know, if he's guilty, he's guilty. If he's innocent, he's innocent. There's no, you have no horse in this race, so to speak, correct?
Starting point is 02:20:42 I don't, man. Actually, that is something that I really wanted to portray as solid as possible with my testimony. You know, I am compelled to be here, and I have to give the facts of what I was involved in and what I saw. but I didn't want to have any bias or anything associated with my testimony that seemed like I was in favor of evil party. They got 12 jurors there. That's their job to decide. You know, I think that's really commendable. Having been to trial five times myself, you know, the best witnesses are those that have no interest in the outcome.
Starting point is 02:21:21 You're up there to tell the truth and that's it. Whatever way it works out, it works out. So that's commendable. And I have to say that. And again, I'm a veteran of those situations. Let me ask you, you wrote a book in search of freezer meat is the title, right? Yeah. Explain that title to me.
Starting point is 02:21:39 Okay. All right. Wow. All right. We're getting there. We are getting there, people. We're getting there. Okay.
Starting point is 02:21:53 Let's see. We're literally. just kind of, kind of just waiting. Every single witness, Sean Combs purported chief of staff, the main co-cour at all, but I want to let you know about what's going on with these jury instructions. So, of course, the judge, Judge Arun-Suburmanian, went through all of the elements of all of the charges, racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion,
Starting point is 02:22:24 transportation to engage in prostitution, but arguably the most complex is racketeering conspiracy. And for instance, the judge said the government is going to have to prove that there was a mutual understanding to cooperate in a criminal enterprise, one that the government says that Sean Combs led. They can infer that actions speak louder than words because you're not going to have an example. By the way, this is a shot of what the jury deliberation room looks like, because you're not going to have them all evidence of them all signing a contract to engage in or agree to engage in criminal activity. Was there an inferred agreement? And this was really interesting,
Starting point is 02:22:59 talking about the eight underlying predicate crimes that the government has to prove at least two within a 10-year time frame. So there's bribery, arson, forced labor, kidnapping, drug offenses. And I thought this was interesting. I want to call this out. The judge said that witnesses who were given immunity in this case, they should be examined with greater care
Starting point is 02:23:22 than ordinary witnesses. There were a number of witnesses who testified under immunity. That witnesses who were permitted to testify under pseudonyms, for example, Mia, for example, Jane, that bears on your evaluation of their credibility, that the defendant had no responsibility to testify. You can't attach any significance to that. In other words, because Sean Combs chose not to testify, you can't use that against him. This was interesting as well. Voluntary intoxication may actually negate the intent requirement of the RICO predicates. We'll talk about what that means. Uncalled witnesses. For
Starting point is 02:23:59 For example, Christina Corum, whose name came up, I don't know, every single day with almost every single witness. These people who were mentioned but never called as witnesses, each side could have called them. That's what the judge said. Don't speculate or consider this. And then finally, when they were sent back to deliberate, the judge said, the schedule is your own.
Starting point is 02:24:18 You're going to be provided meals. They've begun their deliberations. And if they want to continue past 5 p.m., they may be able to do so. We're going to keep a very careful eye out and year out if we get any jury, juror questions or what's going to happen. But right now, I want to take your questions. So I am joined right now by Celebrity Criminal Defense Attorney from McMonagull, Perry McHugh, Meshach, and Davis. Brian McManagel is with us. We're also joined by Criminal Defense Attorney Mauricio Padilla and Law and Crimes' very own host of scandal outside of the federal courthouse right now, Sierra Gillespie.
Starting point is 02:24:53 It's great to have you all here. I said All-Star panel. I wasn't lying. Sierra, I'm going to start with you because we got a super chat question from Diana YX3GU. Thank you so much for the super chat question. Does the jury return home at the end of the day or are they sequestered in a hotel? What do we know, Sierra? This is a really great question because especially when it comes to a trial like this where so much is on the line.
Starting point is 02:25:21 Huge stakes for P. Diddy. I mean, if he's convicted, he could spend the rest of his life behind bars in prison. So we want to make sure the jury is paramount. So that is a question. Could they be sequestered? Will they, they won't they? And the answer is they will not be. They were not.
Starting point is 02:25:36 So every night after, you know, the whatever happened in the courthouse behind me, they listened to all the testimony, went through the evidence, wrote in their notebooks, and then got on the subway, took a train or an Uber, walked home wherever they went, and that was their night. So over the weekend, this is something I've been thinking a lot about Jesse. Over the weekend after we heard closings from both sides and the rebuttal, went back home to wherever they're going. So to me, I'm thinking it's got to be going through their minds, right? They're going to be thinking about what they heard on Friday and really throughout the
Starting point is 02:26:06 entire case so far. I'm sure it's kind of been in their minds as they're leading into deliberation. And as it continues, by the way, they'll still go home tonight once everything's finished. If we're still deliberating tomorrow or they're still deliberating tomorrow, I should say, they'll go home. No need to stay in a hotel or be sequestered. Yeah, if I had to take a guess, unless they were close to a verdict today, I think they're going to want to go home by 5 o'clock. I don't believe that we're coming back with a verdict today. I think there's just this case is so complicated.
Starting point is 02:26:36 They have so much material to go through. I think it's going to take several days. Maybe we'll put up a poll. Maybe we have a poll up about how long we think the jury deliberation process is going to take. We should do a poll on that too, chat. How long do you think it will take? Shit, I'm a bet, man. I think it's going to take three days.
Starting point is 02:26:55 I think three days. I don't think they want to come back after July 4th. And I think today's too early. And I think tomorrow they're going to get down a lot of heavy lifting. And they're going to finally, whoever is the person who's voting on either side who's kind of hanging this thing up, they're going to cave on a Wednesday.
Starting point is 02:27:22 Take, let me bring back in Brian and Mauricio. Brian, you ready for this? We got a question from at Leon, the special one. I don't blame Leon the special one asking this, but what's Rico? What's Rico, Brian? Well, it's, it's a, it's a statute that's existed for decades and it was created to, to really shut down organized crime, but it requires precisely that racketeering, a racketeering enterprise, a conspiracy to commit racketeering. And you need, as is reflected in, in the statute itself, a criminal enterprise. So the first thing the government has to prove that there was a criminal
Starting point is 02:28:01 enterprise. The second thing they have to prove that that criminal enterprise engaged in at least two predicate acts that had been highlighted in the indictment of the many that were highlighted, and they've got to prove those acts beyond a reasonable doubt in furtherance of the conspiracy, which is the racketeering. And if the government's able to do that, then this gentleman's going to spend a long time in prison. And if they're not, as I suspect, they might not. He could be acquitted of these charges. But, you know, it's interesting because this statute long ago was created to deter organized criminal activity. And now we're seeing it in cases like this with wealthy individuals who have the money and the means by which to get together with other people and sometimes
Starting point is 02:28:47 commit criminal acts. So it'll be interesting. To me, it's a very significant test case for the racketeering statute. I agree with you. Look, the prosecution's narrative is he had these assistants, he had these bodyguards, they knew exactly what was going on. They knew exactly what was happening behind closed doors. They helped set up the sexual events. They helped clean them up. They were instrumental in the kidnapping. They were instrumental in forced labor. They were instrumental in bribery. He couldn't have done it alone. Defense's perspective, and we heard it from the defense's closing argument with Mark Agnifalo, who did he conspire with? You didn't hear one person talk about a criminal enterprise, say they were part of a criminal enterprise.
Starting point is 02:29:27 Christina Corum, that's the co-conspirator. She's not a co-conspirator. And I think it was interesting because Mark Agnipolo had said, you know, if it was John Gotti and Sammy the Bull was the co-conspirator, you think people are calling Sammy up for help? I mean, because the idea was that the alleged victims were calling Christina Corum up for help. So we raised kind of an interesting question there. Maricio, I go to you. We got a question from La Robb Show 6300.
Starting point is 02:29:51 question is is he cooked on the man act charge so that's transportation to engage in prostitution or does he have a shot and overall what's your gut feeling on the rest of the charges more likely conviction or acquittal i'm thinking more likely conviction when it comes to the man act of transporting you know persons for the for the for the sake of prostitution i don't know i think they have them dead to rights i've heard a lot of testimony about a lot of people that were directly engaged in it. It's hard for me to take this nigga serious because he was the guy who was representing the killers of X,
Starting point is 02:30:30 and he did such a botched job of just making up all the type of wild crazy theories. And after I've seen what he did there, it's hard for me to just listen to him and take him serious. The nigga wanted me and Drake to get up on a stand to prove that the niggas didn't kill X. And that came out through multiple witnesses, and I think it was something that he wasn't really worried about because I don't think. And I said this on inside that courtroom.
Starting point is 02:30:57 She is with us, everybody. Fan favorite. Elizabeth, great to see you. Thanks so much for coming on. So I'm going to get right into it. We got questions coming in for you. This is from RSS 9965. What will Elizabeth Milner do the rest of the day while the jury deliberates?
Starting point is 02:31:12 Will she remain in court in case jury has the questions? Has jury questions? Yep. Well, I will definitely be back inside that courtroom again. Once you know, I do my hit with you, Jesse, once I chat with you guys and say hello. But my plan is to go get some food, go upstairs, see what's going on up there. But I have a book with me just in case because I know it's going to be a long deliberation and I don't expect them to come back with a verdict anytime soon.
Starting point is 02:31:37 But we'll see. You never know. All right. Well, I'm sure we're going to get questions about what the book is, but I'll allow our viewers to ask. Okay. Elizabeth, RSS 9965. Has Elizabeth made any press court observer friends? If yes, can she bring them on as guests during our next break?
Starting point is 02:31:56 Oh, my God, I should. I should go find them. I feel like they're all kind of scattered around here a little bit. Some of them are probably doing their own live hits. Some of them are probably still inside the courtroom right now, just kind of waiting to see what's about to happen. What we do know is that, and I'm pretty sure you've probably already reported on this, Jesse, is that they finally and officially selected a four-person.
Starting point is 02:32:14 So that's probably the biggest news that we've come out since the jury's gone back to that room to start their deliberations. but I'd love to bring on some of the friends. Like we should bring in like all 21 of us and have just one big giant like live shot in conversation. But if I can find someone, I might bring them on. Who knows? Just stick around and stay tuned.
Starting point is 02:32:31 If you try to get 21 people onto this live shot, our control room is going to have a heart attack. So I'm going to probably advise again. Yeah, they're going to have heart attack. So I'm going to advise against that. Let me ask you this. You know, jury instructions can be rather bland. I think they are so important in this kind of case.
Starting point is 02:32:48 Was there anything that stood out? you today about them. I mean, I think the judge even said, I'm going to try to make it a little interesting for you. Was it interesting? Was there anything that stood out to you? Maybe it was about the racketeering charge. Maybe it was about sex trafficking. As I mentioned before, I thought it was interesting. You know, how to weigh witnesses who testified under a pseudonym, witnesses who testified under an immunity agreement. What stood out to you? Yeah, well, definitely the judge was like, oh, I'm going to try to make this interesting, But no offense to the judge at all.
Starting point is 02:33:21 It wasn't as interesting as I think he probably wanted to make it for the jury. But he did do it in a pretty quick speed to the point where I was like, oh, this is it? And then they're done. Then they went back to deliberate. But I think some of the points that kind of stood out to me was one that these jurors have to be impartial. Two, I think another thing that stood out was just the indictment versus how important the indictment is to their actual, to the actual jury deliberation. In that you shouldn't be taking the indictment as just the word. And that's just the say-so.
Starting point is 02:33:47 and that's how things go. I think also the jury, you know, because we discussed this earlier, Jesse, about whether or not will the jury have in their mind that the defense didn't put up any witnesses, that the defendant didn't testify in his own defense. But the judge, according to his instructions, said you can't take that into accountability because, or take that into account, I should say, only because the burden of proof is all on the government, the burden of proof is all on the prosecution, and they are the ones who have to prove their case. Because, you know, and despite what a lot of people may want to assume is that Sean Combs is
Starting point is 02:34:17 not guilty or he's innocent until proven guilty. And so I think a lot of people, especially the jurors, have to keep in mind that, you know, they may have had thoughts in their head, but until they all have that discussion over at that table, I think it's a round table too, in that quiet room, in the courtroom, for that matter, I think that they all have to kind of really talk through everything that just because we outside in the press who have been covering this case since the start may have our opinions about things, but it's up to these 12 jurors, these four women and these eight men to decide what is the fate of Sean Diddy Combs and it's up to them to be making that decision. Yeah, again, we are in Verdict Watch right now. They just went back to deliberate if
Starting point is 02:34:55 there is a court update. If there's anything that happens, we will bring it to you live in real time. Elizabeth, before you have to jump back in, you got a bunch of compliments. Poison Ivy 3. Elizabeth's hair is popping. We got Smarty Pants 1225. Super chat comment. Thank you so much. Queen Lizzie. your hair looks glorious today. Everybody loving your hair. And then Splunk's... Yeah, and then Splunk's mama asks, Elizabeth, what are you currently reading?
Starting point is 02:35:27 Oh, that's a good one. And don't judge me, everyone who is watching this live stream. I'm reading Wicked. Why? Because I'm so excited for Wicked Part 2 to come out. I was like, let me just read the entire book. And I know it's a lot different from the movie, but I was so excited.
Starting point is 02:35:40 So that is my book of choice to be reading while the jury deliberates in this case. And I'll tell you what, I don't blame you for reading something completely inundated with a lot of blame you at all. Elizabeth Milner, great to see you and considering. So if everybody can check that out. Celtic Girl Kaz, thank you. They are at. Not necessarily.
Starting point is 02:36:01 I mean, it may, it's been my experience. And what they'll do is they'll kind of start with the first count, because that that count is first in the indictment. But they may find very early on that they don't have unanimity on on anything and they may then jump to the third count and say to themselves, well, you know what, we all seem to be agreement here. Let's start here. Let's look at the easy stuff before we get to the more complex stuff and see if they could find the unanimous verdict on the third count.
Starting point is 02:36:35 Jurors do what jurors want to do in that deliberation room. And you know, we talked a lot about how long it's going to take for them to deliberate, you know when they'll come back with a verdict we don't know if this jury is going to be splintered we don't know right now if of these what eight men and four women or or i think i have that right um where they stand and if there's going to be an impasse on one count or multiple counts but where they begin you know they usually start with the indictment and they usually will will track the indictment because they're going to have a copy of it back there with them and what option they hit along the way might dictate how they pivot and then look on to different charges.
Starting point is 02:37:15 And I wonder if they'll start with racketeering or they'll start with sex trafficking or maybe they'll start with transportation to engage in prostitution, which again seems to be like the more streamlined, more simplified charge to potentially convict Sean Combson. And that's not advocating for him to be found guilty. That's just in my legal opinion feels like the strongest case for the prosecution. Let me go to you, Marisi. You know, Jesse, what's interesting about that I wanted to add was let's just assume that this jury only convicted him of that third count.
Starting point is 02:37:44 Under federal sentencing guidelines, he's only exposed to, believe it or not, 15 to 21 months of incarceration on that count. Up to 10 years, though, up to 10 years. Yeah, but sentencing guidelines are followed by the judges routinely, and nobody gets a statutory max on any kind of a crime who's never been convicted of a crime before. So the guidelines this judge will start with for that count is only 15. 15 to 21 months. So you talk about a victory.
Starting point is 02:38:13 Wow. 15 to 21 months. Let's say he gets 50. Well, we imagine that he would get found guilty on both of those. You run both of them concurrent. Let's say he gets 15 months. If he gets 15 months, ladies and gentlemen, we could see Did he out in a month or two.
Starting point is 02:38:38 Wow. Three, four, the defense, if that were to happen, it'd be a home run. He's almost got that time in. Yeah, because. Think about it like this. He's looking at potentially life in prison for racketeering conspiracy. He's looking up to a minimum, minimum 15 years in prison on sex trafficking. So yeah, 100% that would be a win.
Starting point is 02:38:54 Okay, Mauricio, we go to you at Stella K80 or K8O. How much does a lawyer's charisma, likeability, and skill with the razzle-dazzle influence, the outcome of a big trial such as this. Great reporting and high from the UK. Thank you so much for the great question. And thank you for watching abroad. So I guess, yeah, how much you? the lawyer's charisma, likability, skill, razzle, dazzle, how much does it affect the jury?
Starting point is 02:39:19 I think it's everything. I think it's everything. You have to keep them entertained. You have to keep them paying attention. They have to, at some level, like you, and they have to at some level like your client, if you expect for all of them to acquit your client. I've said this previously. I mean, when I first started doing trial work, I would look at other attorneys, and sometimes I would I would be like, oh, that guy's too dramatic. And after doing this for 23 years, I can tell you that you can never be too dramatic. You got to use props.
Starting point is 02:39:50 You got to speak loud. You got to connect one-on-one with jurors, you know, eye contact. They have to really believe in you and they have to believe in their client if you expect for them to acquit your client. So, yeah, it really is everything. And in this particular case, they had some of the best in his defense.
Starting point is 02:40:09 It's a shame, Mauricio, that you are so timid and you're so quiet and you'd it's a shame you don't have the razzle-dazzle Marisi. I mean, after speaking and knowing you for so long, I wish you had that, unfortunately. No, you are. I could see you in a courtroom. I could see the jurors gravitating towards you. It's why you're such an excellent attorney, which now, let me look at this.
Starting point is 02:40:31 Look at this. We asked a question that I think it's important because to be these jurors, not an easy task. Being on this trial for seven weeks, now there's deliberation. and everything they've seen, everything they've seen. We asked the question of, Paul, have you served as a juror on a state or federal jury? 14% said yes, 86% say no. Yeah, not a lot of people.
Starting point is 02:40:53 Okay. Brian, I have to ask you, this is my question. Voluntary intoxication, negating elements or negating criminal intent for the predicates, the eight underlying predicate crimes. Can you explain that to me? How does that exactly, work well i i'd really like to see that that definition because that was interesting to me when you
Starting point is 02:41:18 said it but certainly if someone chooses to voluntarily take drugs or alcohol um it could negate in in many instances the ability for them to complain of uh coercion to complain that they were victimized um you know if if it's a co-conspirator in the case and that individual is intoxicated themselves. They have a hard time arguing that they were in league with or conspiring with somebody because they aren't in the right frame of mind to have done so and shared that what we call that specific intent or that intent to commit the crime. But I was interested to, I'd be more interested to see what that related to and which particular count. Let me, let me, let me throw something out what it might be. Yeah. You know, a big theme is for sex trafficking, did he know that they
Starting point is 02:42:09 didn't consent. Okay, that's the allegation, right? They didn't consent. And the idea would be, how was he supposed to know? Maybe he didn't know. I don't know if that makes sense. Would that make sense to you, Brian? Like, he didn't know because of the state that he was in? With sex traw. Yeah, I mean, with sex trafficking, how do you, how do you posture that? I mean, you've got everybody admitting that they're taking drugs, everybody admitting that in the beginning, at least, of these freakoffs, they were willing to do so. So I think, what the judge is basically instructing this jury to do is to look carefully at the issue of intoxication because you're not going to be able to complain in one instance that you're a victim
Starting point is 02:42:49 and that you've been victimized when you voluntarily engaged in criminal activity or freak-offs that that are you know sexual activity and because you voluntarily intoxicated yourself you now say well I don't know if I had the ability to consent you know that doesn't really fly but I You know, I think the best thing the defense has going for them is that each and every one of these women admitted under oath, which you never get in a racketeering conspiracy, that they voluntarily engaged in the activity to begin with, that they consented to it to begin with. And then ultimately they would testify that they got to a point where they didn't want to do it anymore and they became coerced at that point. I think that's what the judge is striking at. And I think that's a problem for the prosecution for each of these witnesses. See, the other way looking at it is it makes it more credible, right?
Starting point is 02:43:43 If they were really going after ditty, they would just say the worst stuff. We never consented any of this. I mean, the way to say it is, and this is what the prosecution in their closing argument, we're not saying every event was sex trafficking. We're not saying every event even meets the threshold of sex trafficking. They could consent to one time to two times, but it doesn't mean they consent overall. Now, the defense, or consent to everything. Now, the defense said, let me get the strength.
Starting point is 02:44:04 So they consent to 75 freakoffs on the 76. That jumps to sex trafficking. Is that a big jump? Again, it's a gray area. Mauricio, we got super chat questions coming in. This is from Myra 2813. Myra 2813. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 02:44:19 Do you think the government will try him again if there is a hung jury or a mistrial? Wow, that's a great question. You know, usually in my experience, when they get hung juries on high-profile cases, they immediately alert everything. everybody, including the press, that they intend to retry the case. I can't think of an exception in my career or in my memory of high-profile cases.
Starting point is 02:44:47 But this one, if they get a hung jury, I think that they're going to have to really have discussions on number one. Do you want to incur the expense? At the end of the day, this has cost millions and millions of dollars for the government to pursue this case. And legal experts, people that we have on our panel, People that know about the law question the decision on whether or not this was, like Brad Cohen says, a state case on steroids and it never belonged in federal court to start off with. So I think this is going to be one of those special cases where if they do get a hung jury, they're really going to have to sit down and think about whether they want to put everybody through this again.
Starting point is 02:45:26 Well, let me follow that up with you, Maricio, because it matters what they might be hung on, right? because Casey 7480 says, can the jury find him guilty on some charges and hung on the other? Then would he be back in court on only those charges? So, Marisa, I guess it becomes a question, right? If they find him guilty on transportation to engage in prostitution, but they're hung on racketeering or they're hung on sex trafficking and it matters to the split.
Starting point is 02:45:53 Let's say there was one or two holdouts and everybody else was voting in favor of guilty, I mean, they could find that information out. I mean, I think that would influence their decision whether they retry them. No, Maricio? Yeah, I think so. But I think if they convict them on one thing, that's going to be more of a more of a motivation for them not to put everybody through this again. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:46:14 Yeah. The prosecution could chalk it up to a win. No, we got them on something, you know. But this is a very, very particular case of, you know, people's careers are going to be on the line. And I'm not talking about the people that are in the courtroom, but the people that really motivated this case to be brought in federal court, they're going to have a decision to make if they do hang them on any one of these counts. Okay. You know, let's not let's not forget that
Starting point is 02:46:41 we've got a new Department of Justice right now. And the decisions are going to be made by DOJ. And we have a new attorney general. And I'm not so sure. A new state prosecutor as well. Not state prosecutor. U.S. attorney. So Damien Williams was a person who brought the case. he's no longer, he resigned as soon as Trump won because he knew he was going to get replaced and fired so rather than wait for Trump to replace him, he said, I'm out. Sure, that politics won't move into play here
Starting point is 02:47:13 if there's a home jury. You make a good point because there's all this conversation about whether or not if he's convicted would even get a federal pardon from the president. Let me throw this to you, Brian. This is from Titan Guy 8308. It's a super chat question. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 02:47:29 If found not guilty, will Did he, well, I'm sorry, will Did he get his oils, his trugs, his guns, and videos back? He absolutely is entitled to get back everything that he legally possessed, and I assume he legally possessed. Legally possessed all of those items. Yeah, the guns would be scratch-off serial numbers. He's definitely not getting back. So anything that he legally possessed, technically he must have returned to him. I'm not too sure he'll be suffering the embarrassment of asking for it all back, but he just might. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:48:09 I hope he doesn't need it anymore. Here's your carton of the oil. He will. He will. He's not going to stop the freakoff. If he gets them that guilty, immediate freakoff. Remember, let me bring in Sierra Gillespie on this. Let me bring Sierra Gillespie on this because Sierra, he, when, When he was arrested, he had evidence of freakoffs in the hotel room, right?
Starting point is 02:48:32 He had materials with him when he was arrested in September of 2024. Yes, you're right. I had to laugh at what Maricio was saying that if he is acquitted immediate freak off. I mean, maybe who's to say anything is possible? We've been talking about how any sort of verdict could come and we'd be shocked, but also not shocked because anything is possible. And yeah, it does seem, based on testing. based on the evidence we've seen or jurors rather have seen that there is video documentation of these freakoffs that he liked to watch it or at least have it in his possession which yes at the time of his arrest September 2024 almost a year ago at this point yes that's what he has with him interesting choice but a lot of the choices that he has are pretty interesting in general so I don't know if he's acquitted maybe he goes out and gets some more baby oil and lube I don't know well well he's
Starting point is 02:49:29 I don't think he's becoming a sponsor for Johnson and Johnson anytime soon, but I'll tell you this much, Sierra. We don't know. Look, the time frame matters, right? When you're talking about these crimes, they have to say it went past 2019. They have to say it continued basically up until his arrest. That helps their case. So the fact that when he was arrested, he has evidence purportedly of these and for treating freakoffs or Wild King Nights, his crimes, that helps the prosecution.
Starting point is 02:49:56 Okay, we got this question from La Rob Show 6300. Sierra, what time did the jurors wrap up today? Is there a chance the judge lets them deliberate into the evening if they want? Or is there a strict cutoff for the day? This is a really good question because it varies depending on case, right? I know a lot of our viewers here have probably watched many a trial here on law and crime and it varies depending on the judge or the state. Now we're in federal court. And the answer is, I don't know when we're going to be done for today, okay? So it's really going to be up to the jurors. If they, you know, are really close to something and they feel like they want to wrap it up at five.
Starting point is 02:50:34 Okay, they can or rather if they want to keep going, it's up to them and their discretion. So it's kind of TBD right now, how long we're going to be here today. I mean, I'll tell you we're going to be here. Elizabeth is in the courtroom now. I'm going to be outside until we get the okay. They're done for the night. But it's really up to the jurors at this point. It's in their hands in so many ways.
Starting point is 02:50:54 Oh, absolutely. And let me throw a super chat to you because we're hogging all the super chats. Sierra gets a super chat too. Don't think we're leaving you out of super chats. Got a super chat from Melanie Fox, 413, 434. Thank you so much. Sierra, what's your prediction for the verdict? I mean, this is difficult.
Starting point is 02:51:16 I wish I had a magic eight ball for nostalgia reasons and because I would like to know. Although, to be fair, would a magic eight ball tell me the answer? I'm not entirely sure. My guess is a mixed verdict. I think that that's most likely. I do think that there is enough evidence for a conviction in some way. Again, we've talked about this. I wouldn't be surprised whatever happens,
Starting point is 02:51:37 but I think overall, the strongest one has got to be transportation to engage in prostitution. That's what I would have said prior to closings. I do still think it's pretty strong. However, after closings, I think Rico might have been clinched too. So it might be all of them, but I'm going to say mixed just to be safe. You know, I've said it time and time and again, the closing arguments in this case, I think the whole trial is built around them. I think this was a complicated case, both sides needed to lay out in a very digestible way, whether or not this was Rico, whether or not it wasn't, whether or not they met the elements or they didn't. And I think both sides did a really
Starting point is 02:52:12 strong job, the transportation to engage in prostitution. I mean, if I had to side, I think the prosecution nailed it there, but you got off in the bag with sex trafficking and racketeering. Holy, big popper's old thing for the $2 on Super Chat. He say, yo, holy, first day out freakoffs in the making. Yeah. Yo, let me tell you this. Let me create a scenario, which I think this is completely possible. Now that I'm, I forgot the name of that lawyer, but he's really good. I like him when he's on law on crimes. He said, yo, if Diddy get found guilty of those federal prostitution charge,
Starting point is 02:52:45 transportation for the purpose of engaging in prostitution, those hold, you know, the minimum is 15 to 21 months, and sentencing guidelines usually suggest that around that range for someone who's never been convicted of a, federal offense or really any offense before, at least in terms of felony, that would be what he would get. Let's say both of those charges, he gets found guilty two out of five as I've actually predicted. And they say, are cool, we're giving him 15 months. Like 15 months. When did he get arrested?
Starting point is 02:53:23 Who the fuck is this? When did he get arrested? This is September, right? Yeah, you got arrested in September. So it's almost, we're approaching like 10 months. Again, 15 months, let me do the calculation here on the side. You would have to do 85%, right? That's what 15 times 0.85.
Starting point is 02:53:56 Yeah. So he's kind of, if you ask me, he's pushing. Yeah, he's at 10 months now. Diddy's at 10 months now. So did he serve 10 months in jail? If he gets 15 months, he would need to serve 13 months to make the 85% threshold to be released. If he's at 10 months, he spends three more months in jail? He's good.
Starting point is 02:54:26 So he's basically, he just lost a year of his life, right? A year of his life and probably, you know, maybe $150 million. dollars, which again, at least you got your freedom, you're not in jail for life. But theoretically, you know, I'm not predicting a clean sweep where he just walks out of here. So I'm predicting he's going to do some time. And the time that I'm predicting that he's going to do, he's going to still be out before Christmas. The way, by the way, I want to let everybody know something. We have incredible viewers.
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Starting point is 02:55:48 We produce all of this content for you guys. This is the strongest part they had in their closing argument was saying what I mentioned before. You might say all these episodes, a lot of these episodes were consensual. A lot of them don't meet the requirements. of sex trafficking, but I'm going to give you specific examples from Cassie and Jane where it was sex trafficking. So where they talk about Cassie, the 2016 incident, right, the hotel tape. The idea that there was a freak off happening or she had left a freak off and it wasn't maybe completed, but she was leaving. She's beaten by Sean Combs, dragged in the back in the direction of that room where there was a sex worker, checks off a number of the requirements of sex trafficking.
Starting point is 02:56:26 Another example, she's sitting next to him on a plane. He purportedly shows her these sex tapes threatens to release them. So you have a travel component. You have a threat component. They land. He demands a freak off. He gets a freak off. Those are two concrete examples with Jane.
Starting point is 02:56:42 There's an example, aside from the allegations that she was forced to do this when she was sick or exhausted. There was a violent episode she talked about June 2024 beaten. Heath says, take this bleep and pill. You better go back out there. All the text messages from Jane where she is expressing reluctant. to not engage in these hotel nights, particularly after Cassie filed her lawsuit. Do you think the jury is going to weed out and say,
Starting point is 02:57:09 you know what? I think there was a lot that they consented to, but it doesn't mean they consented to everything. And maybe even though Mark Agnifalo says, oh my gosh, you're going to make the jump from consensual to racketeer to sex trafficking, maybe they will make that jump. What do you think?
Starting point is 02:57:23 Just like someone can say, you know, can make the jump that, you know, a woman consented in the beginning of, of sexual intercourse and then at some point she you know she negated the consent and whether it was rape or not so the fact that that you can withdraw your consent and especially the video the violent attack at the end of the day if you believe that p ditty did did the things that the government is accusing him of the the the multiple day interrogation the the the fire bombing the car the you know he's acting like a criminal and even know this recal maybe WICO, it doesn't mean that even if they have a problem with the law, it doesn't mean that they've satisfied the elements of the law and that he may be guilty
Starting point is 02:58:10 of sex trafficking and of RICO. Did you just say WICO? Because if you did, do we not coin that somewhere? We got a trademark attorney on it on a set. Maybe Wrico. That's a freico. You know what, Maricio? You know what, Maricio, we got this comment
Starting point is 02:58:26 from Maylink P1. And Mauricio brings the heat. Is Mauricio from Miami? Yes. From Miami. See, people know. Board and raised. There you go.
Starting point is 02:58:38 There you go. All right, Brian, this is a great question from Nestog. Who's been a frequent contributor with questions during our live streams. Actually, a lot of our viewers have been as well. And let me couple that with another question from Smarty Pants, 1225. Thank you so much for the super chat question, Smarty Pants, 1225. So I'm going to throw two questions to you. They're very similar.
Starting point is 02:58:58 1220 Smarty Pants 1225 asks, is it likely Rico and the Mann Act will get revised after this case? You have mentioned it before about what these statutes were traditionally designed for, Brian. Brian, I'm going to throw this one to you. This is what they were originally designed for. Let's start there. And then the next question I have is about racketeering. So let me put Nest Dogg's question to the side for a second. Brian, let's stick with this.
Starting point is 02:59:25 Smarty Pants 1225. is it likely RICO and the Mann Act will get revised after this case? You know, I don't think so. I mean, you know, revising a statute involves, you know, cooperation within our government to change the statute. Every single challenge to the constitutionality of the RICO statute has been struck down by the Supreme Court. I'm not aware of any opinions that are up there that would challenge it.
Starting point is 02:59:53 If there's a conviction here, they could challenge the use of the Racketka. hearing statute and take it all the way to the Supreme Court. But getting legislation like this, you know, a state, a federal statute changed isn't easy. And I don't think one case will do it. And I don't think this would be the case for them to do it. Let me just go to one more question for you, Brian. This is from Nestog and then we'll have to break. I believe they got him on prostitution, drugs, and bribery. Isn't that technically RICO? Yeah, but you got to, you got to prove the criminal enterprise and you got to prove with unanimity those predicate acts. And so, yeah, I mean, I think, I think you've both said it and I don't disagree with you.
Starting point is 03:00:38 If you looked at the definitions themselves and only focused on the definitions, they could check both those boxes and convict him of racketeering in a minute. I just wonder with all of the consent issues in the case, if they don't just take the easy way out, clip him, you know, on the Mann Act violations and call it a day. You've got to get a unanimous verdict and you've got to get all 12 people to agree on every predicate act and then on the racketeering enterprise as well. Not easy to do, although I will tell you in racketeering cases, they got about a 90% conviction rate across the country. So they do it. This case could be an outlier. This case could be different. You said it before. So it's interesting to think about. I'll tell you
Starting point is 03:01:22 What? We're going to hit a break. We are officially in Verdict Watch in the Sean. Chat, I am too. I have to run. You guys will see me. I already made a new live event. The next time you'll see me. We'll be very shortly, you'll see me with Lauren Conlin. We'll be just kicking it. I mean, a little handy on the rock.
Starting point is 03:01:42 Maybe I bring some sarach. Should I bring some sarah? Nah, that's inappropriate. But yeah, we'll be talking about the case. Live and in person, she'll give me her overview of being there at the entire trial. You know, and we'll get to really ask questions. I encourage that if you guys have questions, I'm going to have my phone on my hand,
Starting point is 03:01:58 and most of my producer will be able to kind of direct it. We're going to be answering most of your questions as towards, you know, when we're getting these updates from these people who are in court, sometimes we don't get to ask them anything. So, like, I'm going to try to ask as best everything I needed to ask and have a conversation about the case of trial and what's supposed to come with the verdict.
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