DJ Akademiks Live Streams - Jay Z disses Colin Kaepernick and Akademiks on Stage? YB vs Future! Ak vs Charlamagne?

Episode Date: July 12, 2026

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It's interconnected though, right? And even that's what I'm saying. Holy, Big Act is in the building today, man. Big Act is in the building. Let's go live on all platforms real quick. Welcome, my people. We're going to have a watch party for the me and Charlemagne conversation. It's dropping at noon.

So stay tuned for that. You know, we'll still fill in with a bunch of stream shit. But welcome me, y'all. Ha ha. Nice little watch party. I actually This file that they sent to me to upload Took so long

I was trying to drop it last night And stream last night It just The shit was It's the biggest file They sent me 200 gigabytes The podcast was 200 gigabytes If you know anything about space on computers

That was wow They said they supposedly shot it in 6K And whatever whatever So it took so long To handle to download To then re-upload our YouTube channels, I'll be honest with you. I haven't even sent it to, like, my team to be like,

hey, is this accurate with what we recorded on our shit? I'm going to, well, we're watching it live for the first. I haven't been watching live for the first time. Like, it literally got uploaded, like, just, like, a couple minutes ago, whatever. Anyway, before we get to that, before we do get to that, Before we do get to that, there is a few things that we will go over. Jay Z did his concert last night at the Barclays.

Not a Barclays. Wow. Sorry, Brog and Slip. He did his concert at Yankee Stadium last night. I've seen many clips. I didn't go there personally. I was... Somebody told me they had some tickets promised, but I would never dare go there.

Not Jay himself, nor a rock nation. I heard there was influencers who bought tickets that supposedly was critical of Jay-Z who showed up. They weren't greeted with much love. Let's just say that. Actually, they were turned away. Regardless, I watched the concert in, I guess, bits and piece is not the whole thing, but from all the perspective in POVs that I saw of this concert, I got to say, I think it was a phenomenal concert. We saw Nas who appeared.

We saw Beyonce, who was filling in for Mary J. Blige on some sort. songs. He was doing a lot of different renditions, but really, like, really dope. It's a dope way to celebrate an album, which is reasonable doubt, which is very nostalgic at this point. Overall, it looked like a banger concert. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm here to give up props, right? The only thing I do have, to be honest with, and I know the whole Vengeers, as they keep calling themselves, they won't like when I say this one. I think, I think that freestyle shit is done. Whatever, like, I think that's his new way of trying to put out his propaganda because Charlemagne doesn't work, like, BDOT and Wayno and them, like, nobody cares

what they say. I think his new way to try to, like, put out some propaganda is, like, kicking these freestyles. Just, I got to be honest with y'all. In reality, I think these freestyles, they come off flat. They don't come off as masterful or artful as, you know, we know Jay Z to be. And, and, It also doesn't come across as sharp. And whatever message he's trying to like, you know, it feels like he's trying to kill certain narratives or address certain things. I'm going to be honest with you.

I don't think it's changed a single person's mind, right? Now, of course, for the people who are there in the concert, it's dope to see somebody do anything acopella, right? And anything supposedly off script. But I just have to be honest with you, like, you know, the first freestyle, there was a whole, like, hoopla about what this freestyle meant. Oh, shit, this is crazy. Like, oh, shit, he's calling out so-and-so.

This freestyle, I'm going to be honest with you. I did post it, but there's not much to talk about. I mean, we'll watch it. But I'll be honest with you, it was very underwhelming. Night 1, great concert. That's my takeaway. Great concert. The freestyle was inconsequential, right?

So if that was supposed to be like, oh shit, he fucked the culture up again. Wasn't that. It was worse than the first one. And this time around looked like he was trying to address certain things that, I don't even think everybody even cared about, but these are, the things that he was addressing was part of a bigger picture of what people think about him. Like the target thing. Like he was like trying to like, you know, address the target thing.

And in reality, I didn't care that much about the target thing. But the people who do have a problem with the target thing, they have a problem for a few reasons. They have a problem because they felt like Jay-Z has promised them, hey, I'm doing things for you and then fucked them over. They've seen that time and time again. they have 10 instances of him doing it. So they don't have trust in him. His cultural equity has dwindled very low down. Now he's a phenomenal rapper and, you know,

you'll watch a conversation with me in Charlemagne. Every time when I say, hey, his PR, his name, the weight it has in terms of, you know, if Jay Z was saying, say we came to a fork in a row, black people, we came, I'm going to say black people, I'm going to say, it's really hip-hop. If we came to a fork in a road, if Jay-Z said, and we're going left the entire culture without asking him, question we'll say, all right, we're going left.

J. said it, that's where we're going. These days, if J.C. said we're going left, you know that probably, if you go left, he's going to lead you to some niggas that's going to put you in shackles and take you as slaves. You might as well just go right and figure it out yourself. That's the point. So, I don't think these freestyles are addressing that. These freestyles, if anything, just kind of showing, again, I'm not going to knock his ability

to respond. Jay's is in them Twitter streets. I think Jay Z should make a Twitter account. Jay Z, you know, felt like he was responding to the likes of me. Dom Luka, shout out to him. Responding to like, you know, these people who supposedly were being told that he's bigger than he's, he doesn't care about. Right. He's talking about Twitter activist, right?

So it is what it is. I think the concert should be focused on. He has two more nights at Yankee Stadium. I hope to see more, you know, it'll be a lot more surprises. is I was very happy for a lot of these washed up media personalities who I think they felt they were having their heyday again. They were like, oh my God, look what Jay did. I watched Rosen Dweeb give a little breakdowns. I was like, okay, I'm glad you're happy.

And I watched like a lot of people who this was their era. And that's what I don't want to shit on. So that's why I wanted to give a fair review. That was their era, right? And with all due respect, that's not my era. I wasn't outside, as y'all want to say. So like, it just doesn't hit for me like that, okay? I wasn't rocking the Thames and the Yankee cap.

And I wasn't, I was in Brooklyn and Marcy. It doesn't hit for me like that at all. So I was happy for y'all. I was happy for the turnout. I'm not going to lie, that stadium looked packed. I, you know, I'm going to be honest. So I'm happy for everyone who's having those nostalgic moments. I get it.

The 90s was probably a great time. The early 2000s as well. You guys should enjoy that moment. And I'm glad that this freestyle fell flat Because if the takeaway today was about Oh, he did another freestyle and stirred up a lot of shit It would devalue how great that concert was a concert was great Yeah, the freestyle just did nothing

So anyway, I play the freestyle real quick By the way, we're kind of up against the clock Because we are going to start the premiere of me and Charlemagne And I'll give you a little preview on that The conversation starts with two hours of gaslight So Charlemagne basically tries to gaslight me that me and people like me are in it against nobody. And Rock Nation doesn't care.

And what he brought up was valid, even though he had a casino situation that he never mentioned. And he says whatever we think they're doing, they're not really doing. And, you know, you guys will watch for yourself. But let's go watch Jayze's. Here's Jayze's. Freestyle. And by the way, last thing, too,

I seen there are some people that was very upset about, very upset about my thoughts. And y'all could clip this too. For the people who are upset about my thoughts about Ruri and either as health condition or whatever, I dare want to you pussies to pull up to my house and see what I say about you or do to you.

I won't be comfortable to that thing is in the ground. I don't want to have no good feelings about him. And that's the thing I didn't like about. how people, I don't care what you, I think, my reaction is my reaction. That pussy pulled up to my house, I won't be happy till he's no longer breathing. Remember I said that, I'm going to keep saying it. And that goes for anybody who would do that. So if somebody pulls up to your house where you lay your head and you're supposed to

feel bad that they fell out on the pavement, good for you, pussy. But a nigga pull up to my house, listen, at that point, obviously he ain't really getting inside a property, but if I could have smoked him, then I would have. I would have done all of us a goddamn favor. So when I hear he falling out by the grace of God, that might be just God. That's just God's giving us a gift. Don't ever question me on why I said,

fuck that, nigga. Until you speak on a nigga who pull up to your house, this ain't just hip hop to me, nigga. This ain't just hip hop. Oh, acts of trash human being. Nigger pull up to my house, I don't care if you get hit by a truck. He catch AIDS, syphilis.

I don't care if he gets, I don't care what happened. To him, his kid, his mom. Fuck them all. And if you're mad about it, fuck you too. I'll leave that there. Let's listen to this Jay Z freestyle. Okay.

It's about around like two minutes or so. I couldn't really find like the perfect. Like I felt like last time we had like a couple of videos that were really perfect. But I think this one will suffice. It's about like a minute and, a minute and 36 seconds. So let's check it out. He delivered this. I don't know if this was at the beginning.

I know the last time he kind of kicked off the show with kind of like how he delivered his freestyle. Not too sure when he did this, but check this out. They say I sold out. Yeah, I did sell out. Three nights. I sold Yankee Stadium in hell out. I'm a target.

Ain't don't miss that target. By the way, I see some people also comments, and I'll add on to that. I agree. Him cutting the hair? Really dope. I do like that. Jay-Z was looking frail to me.

me. He was looking frail in stature. It's something about as you get older and you try to, you know, have like these hairstyles that sometimes people associate with younger people, especially those wits or whatever, especially like if you're bald, I don't know, whatever it is. Like he was looking a little frail. This was a more vintage jazy look and I want to give him credit for that because I think that was mostly important. You know, he felt like maybe a guy battling dementia when I saw him at Roo's picnic.

This felt like more of Jay in his, you know, that, that classic element. Okay. I'm a target. Hey, don't miss that target. No exclusive. They only doing with Apple and World Market. You shopping at Amazon or you boycott. You posting on Instagram.

That's better. Boy, stopping. Y'all know Google on YouTube. You picking and choosing a politician as YouTube. They dig in deep in the narrative. It's embarrassing. They run out of the characters had to bring back up Caprican.

A buddy took a check. I ain't even mad at him. But alone with that check, got a sign of non-disparaging. I'm the one they can't control. Y'all better be glad as him. I'm the one they can't control. We better be glad as him.

Half a billion back in the community. That's just good man for him. I don't listen to Twitter activists. They type, but I laugh at them. There's really no comparison. I check my stats again. I'm bringing folks home to their family. Laws get past kissing.

You could like it if not. We don't do no ass kissing. Extra killer. You might not like the package it, but my presence is the present. And my gift is rapping. Oh shit. Yeah, not much to talk about with this freestyle.

All I say is I think Jay-Z's rapping to convince himself of the narrative change that's happening. People are calling him a fraud. People are calling him facetious. People are saying that he's a liar. People are saying that his organization, Rock Nation is scummy. They're thieves.

They're basically a rat hole where, you know, a bunch of, I mean, literally a federal informant resides, but a lot more other unscrupulous individuals. That sentiment won't change. It didn't just start with Twitter activists. This is not just something that only one or two people think. They want to make it be believed that. No, no, there's only a few fringe people.

that are having these thoughts. No, I think within the culture, people just don't trust Jay no more. And he could, this was a freestyle for his own, his own delusion, okay? Oh, they had to bring up cap again. No one ever got over you doing that. All of these things, people are connecting a chain of events showing that you don't give a fuck. When they bring up the target thing, they realize that, hey, this reminds them of when you did another thing and then another thing.

So, again, you know, it's, I. don't think these freestyles are going to do what he wants to do. I don't think people like Charlemagne, if he gets sent out, or the B-Dots or whoever could put anything in the air to, and definitely not like a Rob Markman. Like, these guys can't change the narrative. I'm sorry to tell you. Like, yo, Rod Nation got the weakest lineup of media personalities if they want to go out there. Okay. Like, if y'all want to get like the narrative going, yo, let me compare it to a basketball team.

What is the weakest basketball team? You're like, yo, this team could get beat by WN NBA team. That's what Rock Nation got in term of their little pundits right now. It's just not working. It's not working. What team is it? What team is it? The Kings?

Nah, it got to be like the Wizards or something. It's the Wizards. Nah, it can't say the Lakers. Kings? Nah, niggins insane. The Kings? There might be the Nets. I might be the Nets.

But anyway, once again, we will touch back a little. bit on this freestyle. I do think there's there, well, not necessarily the freestyle. The freestyle is kind of like, there wasn't much layers to it, right? Like, I think the, when we could analyze the Dame layer, the Osceino layer, the Drake layer, the Kanye layer, the Nikki layer in his first freestyle, it was a little bit more things for us to talk about with this. It's like, it's him saying, yo, they're all hating on me. I gave money back to the projects. Really. That doesn't work anymore. But sonically, I just didn't like it that much.

And I don't think he had that much information. So it is what it is. We'll go back to the concert. I think the concert we should talk about watching Beyonce come in and, you know, Beyonce is Beyonce, Beyonce. And watching her kind of doing some renditions of Mary J. Blige. And watching Nas come out, I think that was phenomenal. I think he also brought out a, was it one of those guys.

I forgot what his name is. Anyway We'll also talk about the Kaepernick thing too The video is premiering or I think it might be just out on Charlemagne's channel too Technically we're supposed to drop it at the same time And we look on his channel Charlamagne The God

How do I find his channel? Wait, how do I find this channel? Okay, I don't know how to find his channel But it's on my channel, right? Oh, see the god See the god, see the god, there we go Is it this? There's no way I know what's fuck really going.

I said glaze, the best of both glazers. What? Okay. All right. Anyway, we're going to watch from my channel, but it is on both of our channels. And I want you guys to really, I want you to score it. I don't want to kick this off. Shit got nothing to do with nothing.

Okay, chat. I want to be quiet here. I want you to score this. I want you to score. I want to make sure you can see the whole thing. thing, but score it. Tell me what you're noticing and tell me what you're thinking.

Tell me if there's good rebuttals, let me know. That... By the way, I don't care about none of this. But you brought it up. Why? Because your man is going crazy. If you're man... If the nigga's shooting at me, I got to shoot back.

He wasn't shooting that shoot like that. Shooting that shoot like, how we shoot at you now? Act, the first week. I told you this on a Friday. No, no, no. Of course, after me. What I'm saying is that before, like, put it like this. But I never said nothing public me.

I said something to you on Friday. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, but of course I'm gonna tell my man's. Like, like, if I'm gonna tell him license to just start going crazy on me. Because he'd been getting them right, so he'd been trying to figure out what the fuck. They got to do it with me.

Because, put it like this. Before any, I think you think he was shooting at you before he wasn't. It, the nigga, the nigga fuck with Drake. That's it. Bro, like, the whole Drake shit, that's what I'm saying. You see this one? You see this one? Yeah, that's it's it.

Most of that shit is like nothing about none. Bro? I don't know. I'm just saying. I hate to pause it, but I hate to pause it. And I know, I watched like 10 minutes or so. I didn't watch a whole thing. Listen, even me, who I think I'm a master at this at this point.

I know how to catch these little nuances. What Charlotte's also good at, he'll be like, he'll just be, he'll leave it in the air. Oh, no. You're showing me bullshit, bro. You're showing me. I'm saying it's bullshit. Like, I don't know. Like, it leaves it open.

But if I ask you for more proof of this, I don't know. And you're going to see me, I do this in this thing. I'm going to be like, yo. So let's talk. Well, Jayze is an Epstein file. He's like, but hold on now. And he has like a whole defense. And I'm like, so you could immediately call that bullshit.

But then you're throwing up bullshit and you're like, I don't know. Pull like this. If any of that is on some criminal shit, there's way big of fish of fraud than George. Like, George is like, yo, that's what. what I say all the time. I'm like, yo, put it like this. Great? But that's what I say. I'm like, yo, y'all got way bigger fish to fry to me. I said, I called my man to give my man a heads up about some shit.

And then that guy spends the next week shooting at me. So now when I- I told you I should have got you on the phone with him. But here's the thing, though. And this is what I really think. We'll get into it. We'll get on camera, whatever. You're wearing a steak t-shirt?

Hmm? You got to steak t-shirt. You got to stay-ticket. I thought you were coming here with a hat. I thought you were coming here with a hat. I'm like, I'm popping a chain out. Yeah, nigger and a shirt. I'm crazy.

Yo, and also, you know, nigga, I'm like, yo, I'm about to come in here and see paper planes all over the place. Oh, what? By the way, this is a paper plane. Exactly. It's comfortable.

What y'all are you to do? You're mad at me because this shit comfortable. Yo, Charlie, you got to come. No, you got to come clean, you got to come clean. Charlie, you wasn't coming clean. You wasn't coming clean. Yo, anything anybody can say about me?

They know I'm mad, transparent. I'm open with it. Like, I'm not even hiding it. That's why I even can't wear it. And I'm not saying work. You see, you're about to play semantics of me. I can tell. What?

Because, of course, you're down in their payroll like some pawn. But, nigger, you got mutual business interests with these niggas, bro. We never, who said I didn't? We never had that conversation. But that's like me said, okay. We never had that conversation. And that's one thing you said, you said, you said, you said, Shalami never told me. So we got it there, right?

He said, who said I didn't? Chat. He just admitted it. He had any affiliation with Rock Nation. That's not true. Nicky, you never did. You remember your scream the day after I called you that Friday? You literally said verbatim.

Salomey said he's going to try to connect me with Rock Nation. Apparently he got some type of connection with him. And you said, you never said that like, I'm thinking you just know. Because most of these, like, the Rock Nation people, I don't. know who they are. Like, if I seen Desiree outside this building, I walk past her unless I remember what she looks like online. I've never seen her. I've never been in the same room with her. Nick, even Jay, the only time I ever seen Jay, I was at a Kendra concert. I seen anything in the skybox. And you said, I don't know these people. And you said Desiree got me a therapist.

I'm like, what in the fuck where I get that from? That's what they told me. Who's day? Niggins. The people? So I'm racking my mind around and they're like, yo, they said you admitted it publicly. I've never said. Desiree got me a therapist? How crazy is that sound? I don't know, but they said you and her locked in and I'm like... I love Desiree though. Oh, that makes sense.

That's not a secret. That's not a secret. Now, this is also, yo, could I remind you out that Desiree's a decorated rat who rated on a cartel? She's just a CEO. So I am going to be like, what do you mean like she's my peoples? Like, what is her contribution

to this here? Right? She's not an artist. She's literally Jay-Z's personal rat. So, yes, when Charles was like, oh, I'm locked in with her. So you're locked in with the rat. That's it. And you're probably locked in with a rat who's doing rat shit. That's why you're in like these nefarious kind of like, oh, wait, whoever said I don't work. If we talk about campaigns, they're playing a different game. They're playing the game of, all right, yeah, I went without legal representation. My legal representation was going to

charge me 30 bands. What's wrong with that? That's what happens. Okay, no, no. I get what you I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. But what I'm saying is that it's not about the money. It's just about I know how a Rock Nation plays. They're just trying to exhaust. They can't, they don't have any. That's my point.

Like a lot of times. That's not your point. You're not even agreeing that. Rock Nation, they're the same thing. You got to show me. I'm not even, I'm just saying you got to show me. You got to show me. I'm in a deposition.

They, I'm telling you. Because she was wild on Megan. I thought it was a deposition for defamation on Megan. Yes. We, listen, I did seven hours. That's a federally allowed limit. We get brought down. So basically, they asked one question that I said, listen, I'm going to keep it up being with you.

I'm a journalist. So I'm going to vote that right. I'm not going to give up my sources. They wanted the source. I later said, hey, by the way, the question you ask, because they're like, they wanted to stop the deposition. They're like, let's go talk to a judge right now. And I said, hey, listen, I don't even remember who the person is. So I gave the answer already.

We went down to the judge. The judge had to review seven hours of that position. The judge, I'm telling you, the judge scolded them. The judge said, hey, listen, this is the case between Milagro, Cooper, and Megan P. You're asking a New Jersey resident who you think has material information that you're deposed in, you spend seven hours. That's the max amount of time. 70% of the time you're asking about Drake, Nikki. What was I going to do with me?

Drake, Nikki. Hold on, hold on, I'm going to go back a little bit, make sure everybody caught it. I'm sorry. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know what just happened. Like, you know, I ain't going to get superstitions and conspiratorial, but I just got kicked off line, whatever.

I've never said that. Desire got me a therapist. How crazy is that sound? I don't know, but they said, you and her locked in, and I'm like, I love Desiree, though. Oh, that makes sense. That's not a secret. That makes sense.

Well, I don't know. Listen, what I know, and this is what I was saying, I know you're too smart for it. Rot Nation been coming at me for smooth three, four years. On what, though? On things that, what's their initiative? I'm going against.

Like, I just happened. It could be the Meg shit. It could be like any initiatives that I've just never kind of been, and it's not like on some. But I thought a Meg sued. No, Meg never sued me. Meg sued a blogger. But this is what we said.

If we're going to talk about, And we should. We should talk about media campaigns and everything. I'll agree with you on certain shit. Like, when you're now talking about, like, Grin and Georgia, whatever you want to call him? Okay, if you want to call it a campaign, because I don't know how that,

that nigga, he is a smart nigga, bro. I've got to be honest. But if you're going to deny that other people don't have campaigns, they don't. You're crazy. Bro, nobody, nobody campaigns like, yo. It's not even close. No, no.

It's the most visible in the most, and the most, I would say the loudest voice. don't mean that's the only thing that's happening. Bro, nigga, I consulted with the best attorneys in the land. What they did for a deposition with me that I'm not even party to the case, bro, they tried 15 times to get me to purge myself

because you're under the oath. They were setting it up for the lawsuits. And why did you do that without a lawyer? That's crazy. They're idiots. I sat there and laughed at them for the whole time and ate food. I don't know. A lot of times I feel like if somebody has you in a deposition and they're asking you certain questions, to me it's because...

This is where Charlemagne is doing a slight of hand. He's saying he can't see how Rock Nation could be fucking with me. He doesn't see any proof. Now he's saying, well, why would you do that without a lawyer? If someone has you in a deposition, they're trying to get to something. That's countering your first thing. If the deposition has nothing to do with Target and me, because you're saying they're not. doing nothing. What do I have to worry about? But now you're saying, well, I ain't

on line. If they got your deposition, they're trying to get something. So he's kind of talking on both sides of his mouth if you don't realize. They already have certain information. And like you said, they want you to purge yourself. So why would you ever do that without a law? But even then, everything is interconnected though, right? And even then, that's what I'm saying? If we talk about campaigns, they're playing a different game. They're playing the game of, all right, yeah, I went without legal representation. My legal representation was going to Charming in 30 bands. What's wrong with that?

That's what happens. Okay, no, no. I hear what you said. Hold on. Rock Nation hired the dumbest lawyers in the land. I'm going to be honest with you. I could send my unborn son there, a nigga.

I could just send a specimen of semen to fucking handle them bozos that they hired. They were just paying them niggas for no reason. Okay. I sat there and laughed eight Oxdale. Like, yo, nothing happened. All right? Dumbest lawyers ever.

I get what you're saying. By the way, they ass got fired by the time it came to post judgment. Like, like they have new lawyers. lawyers on the thing for the Milagra thing because those lawyers were hacks. All they were doing was billing $3,000 an hour and you took seven hours on me. Actually, eight hours.

They had to travel to Trenton, which put more travel time on it. So just do the math on that already. I get what you're saying. What I'm saying is that four attorneys that was there, right? Remember, so that's $21,000 per attorney because that's eight hours. There's four attorneys. That's 80,000. Plus all the paperwork they had to file

just to get to Jersey because that's a Florida case. It's not about the money. It's just about... And there were three, I think, paralegals, though. So maybe bump it down from 3,000 to like 1,500. I know how Rob Nation plays.

They're just trying to exhaust... They can't... They don't have any... That's my point. Like, a lot of times... That's not your point. You're not even agreeing. Charlemagne is telling me his point

is that they got so much money. So my point is they got... Their game is trying to make you go in debt by fucking with them because they got a billion dollars. He's agreeing like, that's my point. Almost saying, why would you fuck with the guys with a billion dollars? So wait. So you're saying just because Rock Nation has an unlimited bank account and they could waste $2 million in a lawsuit, I'm supposed to just bend over and say, fuck me in the ass.

That's what I'm supposed to do? No, fuck them niggas, man. You know, Rock Nation, they're the same thing. You got to show me. I'm not even just saying you got to show me. You got to show me. I'm in a deposition. Because she was wilding on Megan.

I thought it was a deposition for defamation on Megan. Yes. Listen, I did seven hours. That's a federally allowed limit. We get brought down. So basically, they asked one question that I said, listen, I'm going to keep it a being with you. I'm a journalist. So I'm going to vote that right.

I'm not going to give up my sources. They wanted the source. I later said, hey, by the way, the question you ask, because they're like, they wanted to stop the deposition, they're like, let's go talk to a judge right now. And I said, hey, listen, I don't even remember who the person is. So I gave the answer already. We went down to the judge. The judge had to review seven hours of that position. The judge, I'm telling you, the judge scolded them. The judge said, hey, listen, facts. Yo, nobody want to pull those transcript. Judge Day out of Trent, New Jersey. That's the, that's the federal district judge that reviewed it because there's a motion to compel Livingston Allen to, to some. supposedly answer a question. That's what happens. So in a deposition, if you are unwilling to provide information, say, say you get subpoenaed for, I don't know, your license, right? That's a, or a copy of some document. And you say, I don't want to give it. The way they force you, they have to submit what's called a motion to compel. It's the same thing if you also don't want to give up information. So basically, they did a motion to compel me to answer a question.

So the judge would put in an order saying, act, you have to answer the answer the question. Now, what legal ground do I stand on? By the way, I did all this without a lawyer. They spent 100,000. I did it without a lawyer. The legal ground I had is that there's a federal one, but there's a New Jersey shield law that protects all journalists. If you are working in a journalistic capacity and you get some information,

you do not have to divulge that source unless it's under court order. But that law, for you to ever be compelled to do it, the judge has to look at that law. So I had some protection. But I didn't even want to get to that because it was just going to keep elongating this whole, like, legal process. So I gave them an answer. I said, I forgot, which I didn't forget. You know what I mean?

I wish I remember. They're like, who gave you the Tory Lane's, you know what it was? It was Torrey Lane's discovery data, right? Who gave you the fucking DNA thing? I don't know how I got it. I forgot. I drink a lot of liquor. I'm going to take a shot now.

I don't remember shit. Why are you trying to tell me I remember stuff? They're like, no, you know who gave it to you. Give me one second that I could try to figure it out. What the fuck? So I told the judge that. The judge looked at them and said, hey, if Mr. Allen says he doesn't remember, I can't go in his brain and try to pick some information that he's saying it on their oath.

I don't remember. You get what I'm saying? Now, because of that, they did, because there was some delay because of that, like that nuance. So the judge asked me, Do you want to fight the journalist privilege thing? I said no, right? I said, I gave the answer. Now, the judge wrote it up in a way.

He says, because Rock Nation's lawyer, they were trying to get a big win. And this is where the niggins like, Charlemagne just come off too fucking stupid. Like, no, that's my guy. But it comes up too stupid because when you explain it to him, he's going to be like, I don't know.

They were trying, and they did this with Milagro. They tried to get a win-off Milagro saying, she's a YouTuber and can't be a journalist. She does be online talking shit. Technically the law protects her, me. If you are a Twitter guy, you're protected too if you feel you're doing journalism. Back in the day, journalism would mean you would have media credentials

and you're like Nancy Dillon or you're Megan Cunner for something like that. These days, what media is is different. Now, to judge smartly, because they try to do it, to Milagro except the judge at least at first said, hey, she is media. So Rock Nation is attacking new media trying to say, these ain't media people. These are a bunch of bum-ass niggas talking shit

about the biggest in a nation, Rock Nation. So the judge, after realizing I didn't want to go through another hearing on his act, because how they do it is they're going to be like, when Act was reporting on Megastalian versus Tori was he acting as a journalist? Because they understand the difference. It's nuanced, right?

If I'm on stream, like, say, man, fuck Rurie and his mom, and they get like, that, that's not journalism. That's just, that's just someone just, you know, using the First Amendment. Right. That's not journalism. If AC is covering the case of Meg the Stallion versus Tori Lanes or Tori Lanes being charged with the shooting of Megastalian, if I'm disseminating information, gathering stuff, curating it and putting it out in a, in a newsworthy format, I am being a journalist. So the judge says he struck them down the first time. I'm not going to make a blanket decision that someone being a YouTuber, because they try to also argue, oh, this is what journalism should be.

And they started naming some old school like rules. And the judge said, listen, things have changed. I'm not going to make a blanket ruling that academics is not a journalist. Okay. I will look at it on a case-by-case basis. I'll look at his behavior during the the Tory Lane's trial. I didn't even want to get to that

because I'm tired of going down to Trent and I went down there twice. I said, judge, I'm not even arguing that. And the judge said, well, you sure you don't want to argue that? I said, I don't. He says, well, I won't put it. My judgment will not address whether you will be seen as a journalist

because I, and he did this in a smart way. Shout to Judge Day. He says, I don't want this to do. be a piggyback or precedent case that Rock Nation could use for other things to say, hey, it's already on the books that academics is not or cannot be a journalist. So I said, Judge, let's just focus on the fact that they asked the question. Maybe I did delay it, but eventually I told them I don't remember. That's my answer.

And the judge said, you know what, I'm going to grant them, you know, you're trying to be fair. I'm going to grant them one more hour. And this hour has to be only follow-up questions from you saying you don't remember. They can't ask any more about Drake. They can't ask any more about Nikki. They can't ask any more about Stake. They can't ask any more about Aiden Ross or else or anybody else. Ask follow-up questions and do it in front of my...

So we're in front of their court reporter and in my chambers. Nerve them. When we did that, they had like basically... I didn't even take an hour. It took like 20 minutes. They had nothing to ask. And then we're like, fuck it, we're out. So shout to Judge Day, but...

The point is this. And this one I'm trying to explain to a nigga like Charlemagne, who's acting dumb, either that or he's getting, I don't say paid, but he's just like he's working for them, niggas. Bro, when he's like, I don't see it, nigga, I'm telling you the proof. You're showing me a dumb-ass article by some stupid-ass journalist, and I'm telling you the proof. I'm telling you when they're outside the house.

I'm telling you when I'm going to court. These things are provable, and you're like, nah, I got to see it. That's something like, oh, is Charlotte playing dumb with me? This is a case between Milagro, Cooper, and Megan Pete. You're asking a New Jersey resident who you think has material information that you're deposing, you spend seven hours. That's the max amount of time. Look, how much time can you have, how much time in a federal civil case can you do a deposition? is this going to tell you it's going to be

look seven hours under federal rules of civil procedure deposition is legally limited to one day of seven hours they did exactly seven hours my nigga you could take a longer one if the opposing sides agrees or if the

court orders of course I'm not going to agree the judges ordered an extra hour because he's saying yo you know for the delay of this thing about whether y'all are going to use a shield rule give them an hour for follow-up questions on that one question, which I shout to that judge for anyway.

Time. 70% of time you're asking about Drake, Nikki, what was I got to do with me? Drake, Nikki. You're asking about steak. Then in the middle of the deposition, hour six, I remember, I got a whole thing recorded.

In the middle of the deposition, she, um, one of the lawyers, they actually show an exhibit. So they're putting up, like, academic TV stuff and whatever. And the lawyer messed up. She shared her current screen and I seen her slack. All of the communications is go tell Desire

what I can say. What's wrong with that though? Megan is her client. Like if I was on a deposition, my manager would be on a business partner would be on it too. Show me. The Rock Nation CEO who's suing a blogger, the blogger, there's a judgment of 75,000. Hold on a long. The blogger says she can't even pay it. So, so think about this. There's, they spent two million dollars in legal fees. They got a $75,000 judgment. She can't even pay it. You put like, even my lover like, yo, but they spent like at least $100,000 in the depot. I hear you, but you can't play victim. No, no, and I'm not playing. Like if you're any of these bloggers and you're talking that shit online, all it takes is for one of those entities to be like, you know what? Let me make them have a

hard life. Charlotte, nobody's playing victim. We're just not playing idiot. Because I'm literally saying what's happening and I'm calling it out and you're like, What do you mean? But that's two different cases. In that case, that's all interconnected. It's all interconnected. It's all interconnected. How is this interconnected?

How did what I call you and tell you about how that connected? Like you're too smart. No, you're too smart for this. I'll just tell you. Put it like this, right? I heard you say, you said you think I work for Rock Nation. Right? You, you're about to do the word, the kind of like,

Well, affiliation or whatever, whatever. You got affiliation with them. They're my people. That's a fact. I've always said, by the way, you know that. I'm wearing this. This is going right back. Right now.

Every time you talk is going right. Desiree's listening somewhere. Or she's like, this is probably a hidden street. But no, I always say, you've heard me say this for years. My four entertainment entertainment, Clarence Avaunt, Black Godfather, Arsenio Hall, who I just published his book, his memoir on my Black Privile Publishing in Pram. man with that.

The problem already. That's probably. Petey Green, legendary radio personality, and Jay-Z. That's no secret. I've always said that my whole career. Yeah, but I'm going to tell you why that's facetious, and this is why I wear the chain. Because I'm a huge fan of drink before I had the chain and after I got the chain. I don't got...

Drake has never given me a dollar. Okay, yeah, he sent transportation for me to come film something for his rollout. He's never gifted me like, yo, here's some money. Let me put you on pay. No, no. But, no, that's very different. I have zero business interest. Drake's not hit me like, act, let's go half in on this business venture.

But if he did, you would. Why wouldn't you? If he called you right now, him and, him and, I just saw him and who was. Aidan just did, but they got together. It's something. Or he just invested in one of Aiden's company tonight. If he did that, if he called you and did that, you would. Why wouldn't you?

But I would say it. Who said I didn't say it? No, you said, no, you said verbatim. Yo, you said verbatim. You're doing a slighting hand here. You said verbatim. You said Waino exposed something. No, Waino was correcting you.

Because you said out of your own mouth, I saw Charlemagne advocating for Jay-Z's casino. He was still wrong. How was he wrong? He said Charlemagne wasn't there on behalf of Jay-Z. Charlemagne was there on behalf of himself because he had some financial stake in the casino. Here's the thing. Bro, we looked at what was submitted to New York State. you're not listed as some like single sole entity that that is an independent person.

You're listed under Rock Nation. So you're there. So what he's saying is wrong, you might be there because you have business interests in that casino, but you're under the Rock Nation umbrella. Yeah, because there's four entities that were buying for the bid for the casino in Times Square. You had SL Green, which is a real estate company because they own the building, right? The building that the casino was going to be in, which was, I think, 1540 Times Square. You had Caesars, you had Live Nation, and you had Rock Nation.

Anytime you're getting involved in a multi-billion dollar potential bid, you're going to have to come in with somebody. But that's just a fact. Even when you was, I saw you reading the names, I'm like, you think everybody that's under that Caesar's thing works for Caesars? You think everybody under S.L. Green works for S.L. Green? You can look under the Rock Nation thing and see that everybody that's under Rock Nation don't work for Rock Nation. Yeah, but they have that affiliation. There's nothing wrong with. And y'all said I didn't disclose it.

But you read the, you were reading the disclosure form. We had to go to a site to go. Charlotte. It's public record. I was at town hall meetings advocating for this casino. I'm in the middle of a minute. You advocated what you never said. I'm doing this because I'm business-wise aligned for this casino.

And also, you know why it's a got-you-to? It's only a got-a-got. Because I know you're going to do the vote. I kind of said it like, nobody's going to find that disclosure. Like, come on, bro. It was already public record. But no, the bars have been circulating that forever. But nobody, no one was going to really, like, find that and really connect it.

It's about really the hypocrisy. Because now. Tell me why is it for critical? Yeah, because if you're going to talk about whether there's crypto casino, sweepstakes casino, any type of casino. Matter of fact, I don't even know you to be, I'm like a legit degenerate gambler. I don't even know you to be a gambler. And so when I see you co-sign a casino with Rock Nation, and then-

That's when you do your tricky word play. No. I never said anything wrong with casino. I never said there was something wrong with casinos. I never said there was anything wrong with gambling. Never. What I was talking, no, what I was talking about with the things we were talking about before.

You are currently in a lawsuit with, for something, right? Would they named you with, how I got it right here? Hold on. I want to, I want to read it. It's a replica lawsuit that's, been filed in five different states. They finally had to me. Why? Because... This one. Okay.

The class action complaint that was filed in Virginia, which states... It's not class action complaint. So it's one person. No, no, I know. But accusing the defendants of running and promoting an allegedly illegal online gambling operation while tying the platform to alleged co-garde payments and music screaming manipulation. That's what I was talking about. I never said there's anything wrong with having a casino. Is anything wrong with gambling? Okay. So now when we start talking about casinos, this is I said that you have an agenda, right? Because in every casino in the world, right, fanatic sportsbook, Jay Z's just partnered with them. They're at Ocean Casino in, in Atlanta City.

You know how much litigation they got? So the mere fact that, hold on, they got a million cases. Show me. But this is obvious. That's what I'm saying. You're cherry picking on that. No, show me. Show me. Prize piece. I've worked with them. Everybody works to them. I don't know. Maybe black effect worse than them, too. You know what's litigation? They've had just a in Jersey. The mere fact is this, y'all took Drake, and these are entities that y'all don't really like, and y'all are saying these are four to five lawsuits. We've not seen it litigated. One was in Virginia, it just got thrown out. They're also making claims, and this is where I said, like, if it was someone that you weren't, if it was Jay-Z, you'll put nuance to it. I'll give

you an example. If this wasn't Drake, you would put nuance to it. Because how can you, why can you ignore an article that says, pay no attention to the grand was behind the? I'll get to that. Five lawsuits say the the Betfield rig, the screen was bought, and even the chat losing his mind was a higher. So we're going to talk about it.

So let's just start with the obvious. And I'm just talking about nuance and you're trying to grab a random lawsuits that act like it's something that's not. Okay. I remember you being on record saying, listen, release the Epstein files,

fucking whoever's on there burn it down. That's what you said. They release the files. They have Jayzee names. No, they don't. You know they don't. Charlotte.

See, you're adding context. Just hold on. You're supposed to add context of things because you can't just say. But you're not added context of that. Why not? I can read it verbatim. No, no. Because, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Is Jayze's name in the Epstein file? Yes or no? Yes, but why? Oh, okay. So that's yes, right? Okay. Is there a lawsuit versus Drake Aiden State? Yes, right?

But there's context, right? You're going to add the context right after. I know the context you would add for the Epstein stuff. You'd be like, well, these are erroneous supports. None of these things got verified. these are also people talking about him doesn't mean he did anything. That's the context.

I haven't accused y'all are doing anything. What I've done is read these things, right? And by the way, I called you. I called you. Why did I call you? I called you to tell you that your boy got jammed up, George,

and what he said was he gets his marching orders from acting Drake. Yeah, but jammed up. So let's go through it. Investigators. They just said investigators. What y'all knew? Who was investigators?

I have no idea. Okay. But you all knew this. Hold on. Hold on, but you knew this already. Now, I knew you this already, because I heard you say how you got, somebody approached you at the Kendrick Lamar Show and they told you that they had private investigators on your boy.

Okay. Right? Right. There's another article, the age.com in Australia. They talked about how they had an investigator. What you're trying to do slide of hand? How? I'm not doing slight a hand.

Somebody right now is trying to sue you for what you said on the radio. They might be like, hey, put a private investigator on Charlemagne that I could figure out X, Y, Z doesn't mean it's valid. When you do the slight a hand... Once again, I'm not saying it's valid. All I did was call you the... But you do the sliding hand when you say investigators to say like,

oh, this is... This is a criminal complaint. I was like, what pop is calling Sholomey? Like, yo, bro, here's... No, nobody ever said it was criminal. All I did was call you privately, by the way. Chat, I want y'all opinion.

I'm reading all the comments. I love y'all scoring it. Here's the question. did charlemagne's now saying i never said it was criminal what is isn't shalman whole thing that yo what y'all are doing is criminal in nature whether he's mentioned meaning or not he's mentioning drake he's mentioning inside of trading money law he's mentioning that there's crimes and when you hear crimes and investigators and people flipping you're thinking about an criminal investigation.

Am I tripping? You see how I verbatim, ask him, oh, I never said it was... And I told him, he's doing a sleight of hand. You're saying investigators, niggas, niggas just say a PI. Just say a private investigator. Because when you say investigators,

we're thinking about detectives. We're thinking about federal agents. It's not what's happening. You try to make it a thing. You're using the yellow belly, yellow journalism shit, saying things like Drake is under investigation by the feds. No, he's not, nigga. What the fuck is you talking about?

Grand Wizard is on, no, he's not, nigga. Rock Nation just got a couple, like, fucking private investigators stalking Grand Wizard. That's it. If you had said that and the whole internet heard that, they would have said, Charlotte, shut the fuck up. Like, we get it. Like, niggies is harassing him. But you made it seem like niggins is going to get locked up, bro. All of them. I called you private. You're right. And said, act. This is what I'm hearing. And I heard that your boy is telling on you.

That was it. Y'all are the ones that jumped out there and started saying all this other shit. Yeah, but everything you told me. Nah. Yes, you did. Okay. No, no. Y'all did that.

Right. Because here's the thing. You, if I called, I've called you before. I've called you before when, and by the way, the same people back then, same people now, I've always ignored it because that gets into a really messy territory. We know where that goes. They're coming with certain type of info. Same with you right now. Exactly.

But when I say the same, when I say the same thing, and I'm just like, that's not what Okay. So every single time those things happen, when I look at somebody as my peer, when I look at someone's like, no, that's my man's, I fuck with him. We could disagree a million times on if we just, when I first got on the phone, I'm thinking this is a Drake and like when it comes to academics, TV or whatever, like, we fuck with Drake, right? I'm thinking it's just a discussion or a disagreement based on who likes what rapper or what you think. You brought it to this other level where now it feels like there's this nefarious, like, behind this. scenes like, yo, people are flipping all you, people, whatever. So that's when I asked you. When I told you that. And I gave you. Yeah. Again, I don't know how y'all, y'all kind of watching it.

I'm kind of, I see, like, you know, y'all being fair. Charlemagne called me to warn me about niggies close to me. He's saying they're flipping on me. I'm saying to him, I'm not doing a crime. So why, yo, if I tell you your man snitching on you, the first thing you should think, yo, what crime am I doing with my man's? Not doing no crime with my man's. Oh, yo, your man is stealing from you.

That's how the conversation went. It went from he's flipping all you like, oh, he's telling investigators. You're not even, you're making it seem like it's the cops. It's not the cops. Second of all, you're trying to make it seem like we're doing a crime. Second of all, so now then you say he's stealing from me. What do you mean he's stealing from me? Yo, we got financial stuff.

They flagged those accounts. he got $4 million. He stole it from you. Bro, you're trying to put me against my man. Like, that's my only regret in this thing that I didn't just repeat verbatim because he's keeping with this like, this eerie, like you don't, bro,

Charlemagne, this all-star, and Charlemagne wanted me to flip on Grand Wizard. Why? Because they can't stop Grand Wizard. Grand Wizard's fucks them up every single day. He puts belt-to-ass to Rock Nation. I'm telling you, it's just Grant. So they wanted, because they can't fuck with him,

and because he's using academics TV, they wanted me to cut off academics TV, nigga. They came to me, they sent Charlotte to me for me to say, all right, thank you for the heads up. He's stealing, he's doing this. If I cut off grand, it stops the bleeding from Rock Nation.

No, nigga, you nigga's gonna bleed out. Fuck that. Not leaving my man's. So that's what the conversation is. So he's gonna do a slight of hand like, if I tell you would not be snaking Rock Nation, no, because y'all can't do nothing with him. nigga y'all sent 15 private investigators in australia trying to find a nigga

y'all can't do nothing with them so because y'all can't do nothing to him with them y'all want me to neutralize them that that's what that's what they want they want me to just cut grand wizard off that they could feel good sleeping at night no nigga they take a better drill niggins gonna be a tough night for you niggins fuck all that shit so that's the that's the that's the reason of course shawler's line talking about Bro, if the nigger stole money for me, nigga, I'm telling you I'm good with bread. Like, if he took it, nigga, he,

that meant that was for him. I'm not looking at my man's for stealing money. So you telling me shit, I'm quickly dismissing it. Stole money? I'm good with bread. What are you talking about? You're trying to give me every reason to cut off my man's because y'all can't do nothing with him.

Y'all tried to harass him. Now he's playing offense. But I'm telling you. Shala call me. I promise you. And it was a play from Rock Nation, him and Rock Nation. The best way to handle this George Academics TV thing is if Act don't fuck with him no more. So let's plant the seeds that Act cuts them off.

Nick, I took that info. I sit on the phone for three hours of Charlemagne. And two seconds later, I told my nigger. That's my nigga. I don't care what y'all said. feel me names I said the Carson McCoy kid

who I don't even know none of these people I'm just giving you names Carson McCoy He named these people are people Who are like These are around Grand You feel me so like He basically tried to gaslight me like Yo

Yeah your fans closing in These niggins snitching on you and Drake And I'm like When is me Drake and And Grand Wizard doing a crime together? What? Oh they flip it Doretti, then he named some other niggas

that works in the vicinity of like, you know, Grant. What was the Alex Ocher or something like that? And George went. And they said all of them, they got touched by investigators and all of them flipped and say, yo, we get our March of notice. And I asked you, I said, so

if you have the info or have heard about the investigation, who is it? Who is behind it? Because it wasn't criminal. And what did I say? You said, Lauren La Rosa told you. you won't find out another time. But you didn't tell your scream that.

What? What you told your scream was, Yo, Charlemais said, I can't tell you who it is. I never said that. I said, I don't know. The information came to Lauren.

I will find out. That doesn't sound crazy? That doesn't sound crazy? No. If I give you a warning, you'd be like, yo, damn, how are you getting on this info? Because that's what I'm more interested

because everything you're telling me, yo, there is obviously when it comes to people want to do class action lawsuits versus. Yo, chat, what I'm really also trying to say, so I'm saying it's part for the courts, you're going to hear me say, it's part for the course for people to school gambling companies.

Prize picks, which everybody loves, right? They had to pay out $15 million. Pays out $15 million to get access back to the New York markets. Okay, look, in $50 million that prize picks had to pay out on February 24th, it was a settlement that they had to pay out to the gaming commission for operating without a property. fantasy sports license. So when Steak gets sued and all that type of stuff,

it's not what Charlemagne's trying to make it sound like. Of course, steak. So let me tell you how steak works. You have stake.com. It's available in many places in the world. Then you have Steak U.S. That is a U.S.-based version of steak. You have State Canada.

That's what mostly Drake uses for Canada. You have steak Brazil. You have steak everywhere. Now, granted, as they're expanding and they're doing stuff and laws are changing to San, There are going to be litigation that says, oh, you guys broke a rule here. Who knows? Maybe steak does have to pay out some money.

That is not neither here or there, and it's not, it got nothing to do with me, Drake, and also the other people. You get what I'm saying? Me, Drake, Aiden, or whoever, you get what I'm saying? Charlemagne is intentionally misleading people like this is a one-of-one thing that doesn't happen with every casino. And he's trying to blame these lawsuits that are really, of course the influencers are going get mentioned, right? Because they're the face of the promotion for these casinos, but they're

suing stake. So Charlemagne is going to act like, imagine if I was like, yo, yeah, Joe Button and prize picks had to pay out $15 million. That's not true. It's not true. It's price picks. So again, I'm watching Charlemagne, a nigger who advocated for a casino who knows the casino game. He should know it better than me. When I watch him now like Cherry picking, he's like, oh, yeah, I'm reading these lawsuits. My nigga, there's lawsuits versus every company that does gambling. Price picks paid out $50 million to New York State Gaming Commission just to still have access to the market.

State might have to pay out that it can have. I'm not saying they did nothing wrong, by the way, but it might happen. These things happen. It's a reason why casinos exist. They make a lot of money because when, if it's seen that they may have broke a rule, they're going to have to pay. The idea here is nobody says who, what I know,

prize picks for Joe Button. This would be incorrect and a really bad attempted journalism if I said, yo, Joe and Price Picks got sued and Joe Button had to pay. No, he don't. This is prize picks and how they're operating. Anyway, mistake for whatever reason.

Like, every casino at some point, got to pay out some bread to some people who say, man, you got me hooked or whatever the cases. That's how it works. Every casino, we could go to Fandu. Charlemagne, I remember I used to get mad at Adam 22 for this. I hate when people play dumb with me. Because a lot of times the audience understands the dumbness.

And they're like, oh, no, you're just more emotional or you're loud or we don't get what you're saying. But when people play dumb, a lot of times the low IQ shit resonates with the audience. Be like, I don't know. Like, bro, no, I'm just. reading what I saw. Yeah, you're reading and admitting certain stuff. We could go to draft case. We could go to Trump people own

casinos. That's a very regular practice. I could show you 100 lawsuits that Trump's, and I'm not here to defense state, but the point is they're trying to make it. You see, Shawman moved off the criminal shit. Now he's saying all right, so if it's not criminal, who is the investigators for? Oh,

we can't name those people. I bet. Now he's saying, oh, this and third, what is about how the casinos are moving. yo there's every casino or fantasy sports or prediction market they're doing stuff with other influencers why you don't talk about the other influencers oh you don't talk about the other influencers because this is a way to try to go at drake to try to go at grand try to go at me right where people are like hey listen yo i've lost my money or whatever and eventually the casino might be like yo i'm just settled because we want to keep operating or making a ton of money whatever

that's really part for the course whenever you deal with casinos. But I get the thing. I don't give a fuck about none of this. You see, I educate him. I don't give a fuck about none of that. You see, like, bro, you can't win when somebody wants to play dumb.

He's bringing up the lawsuits. I'm answering you. There's going to be a point. I said, go through every allegation. Don't keep, because when you bring up it, it's like a nigga saying you raped the bitch, right? And then you're like, bro, you know, I wasn't in the state.

And he's like, I don't give a fuck about that. I'm just reading the lawsuit. Nick, don't read the lawsuit. Let's talk about what it says. So like literally, I'm literally saying to Charlemagne, even when it's in a gambling loss, I said, nigga, read what it's saying, and I'll answer every allegation. Because you're reading out the overall thing that I'm telling you is bullshit, and you're like, you try to educate him, I don't go fuck about that. There's going to be a time he reads out of shit, and I said, do you believe that Drake himself? He's signed to Republic Records.

Lucian Grains is in bed with him monetarily. You think they need stake to bot streams if Drake was ever going to bot streams? You think that state.com, a gambling website, their main thing is bought in streams? They're not in the music business. Why didn't they open a label? He clearly says to me, yes, that doesn't sound believable. Yet he keeps reading the same bullshit. You get what I'm saying?

So a nigga like that, he's being intellectually dishonest. I was asking you, is that where are you getting the info? And I told you, I don't know what I'm going to try to find out. Did I not that have you? I'm not there to you. No, that's you. No, I feel like you knew who was from. I would have told.

He got asked me about this too the whole time. He said, he said, act, if Grand Wizard didn't attack me, I would have called Rock Nation to try to get a sit-down with you. But he attacked me first, so I can get a chance to. Y, I believe that? Okay, cool. Yo, act, I told you I was going to find out where this info is coming from. But your man attacked me too quick.

I couldn't do it. Y'all believe that too, bro? Hold you. But let me give you another. Let me tell you this, right? Go back to my original point. You think I'm in cahoots with Rock Nation. That's fair to say.

Of course, absolutely. And you think Rock Nation is doing this to you? Rock Nation is part of a broader thing. But yes, of course. So if I called you to tell you that privately, wouldn't that be me Snake and Rock Nation? Are we calling this part out? I was like, yes. No, I'm not.

Yes. So that should let you know right there. No. If I'm a feeling, if I'm so in bed with Rock Nation, and I'm sewing cahoots with them, and they got this master plan to take down academics. And Shalamein calls Act to tell him privately, privately. Now remember, that's what I was saying before. You're going to realize. No, they call me to cut off George.

They call me to cut off Grand Wizard. That's the point of the call. act like you're his OG you're looking out for him tell him everything that can't be proven you're gonna hear me literally say bro you told me the niggas stole

$4 million for me I told grand that the first day too like we didn't even talk about it because there ain't 4 million from me that's be stolen that grand would have so when none of that could make sense now he's going on with this bullshit that would mean I'm sneaking Rognish

yeah but Charlotte that call wasn't like act saved because everything you even told me it was like act the focus of what I'm hearing is people that has been around you. You weren't even saying, act, you were saying to be careful. That's right. Okay. What I felt that call was, that's what I'm saying.

I think that was a Rock Nation directed call. You know why? If I completely took heed of that, the people who were around me that you mentioned, I would just backed up off and be like, yo, I don't know. No, not necessarily. That just means you cut your grass a little lower so you can really see if there's any snakes there. That don't mean cut those folks off. That was just a simple heads up.

that you could have kept private, tucked to yourself, and just kept a close eye on everybody, just in case. To me, that was Rock Nation. But instead, you went to your main shooter and told him start shooting that, Charlemagne.

No, no, no, I never told him that. No, no, I promise. You already, you said you told. No, no, okay, okay, okay, okay. I said, I can't, I can't, I can't, because there's times when that page is ran like a fan page. There's like four or five people at any time that could.

Now, there's a person who kind of like more modest, erase it or probably makes most of the shit on there, but, you know, I'm just kind of seen as the figure who kind of oversees it. That's not, that's not smart, though. I don't know why you allow that page to use your face in likeness. Like, that motherfucker be saying some wild shit, bro. No, we could get into that. But the point what I'm trying to say is that I didn't co-sign everything that happened.

So normally, if I've seen a post about you, I'm going to hit him and be like, yo, I know show him is my guy. Take that off. I do that a lot. They made a post one time about Cardi B. Cardi B is my friend. I talked to Cardi B. We're on the phone for hours.

You know, take that on. You get what I'm saying? Like, I get it. It's a page that it's kind of news reporting, but they also have like a point of view. You get me? But it's more fan base. Anyway, why was he so quick

to throw you under the bus? And this is what you're going to notice. Charlemagne continually is trying to put a wedge between me and Grand Wizard. Like, I'm telling you, I don't think he stole. my nigga, if somebody's telling you somebody stole millions of dollars from me for you to like, bro, it's not going to work.

You're not going to get me to be like, like, he's trying to get me to not fuck with the dude. That's the only way they feel they could neutralize the nigga. I'm telling you. So, like, who gives the fuck about this, right? Like, even if this was a problem and this one, I realized Charlemagne's real method. Because he going to say, why was he quick to throw you under the bus? Almost trying to say, damn, you're too loyal. Look at what he did.

Nick, even if that was a problem, Nick, I'm going to handle it with Grand. I ain't going to handle it with Charlotte, like, mediating it? That shit, that's it. I was asking, why? Like, immediately. Who? George. Where? In the text messages to my people.

He immediately was like. Alex, you got to come clean. You got to come clean. He immediately was like, act told me to do this. He immediately was like, we got the text. Let me see the text. We got the text. We got to get out.

You got the text. I'll show you. We got to look at everything. Alex, please, Sean. No, you listen to that. Could I keep saying this over and over? And I don't know if it's because of my reverence for you. Because, you know, people will tell you, people will tell me all the time,

like, I don't know why you fuck with academics. I'm like, yo, that's my guy. I know that for a long time. I don't know what to tell you. I don't even think the act you all see you on screaming and shit. It's not the act that I talk to, blah, blah, blah. So I literally be telling people, I don't think act knows what knows what's really going on. No, I listen.

Show him what George says. And if you want to cut this out, lady, you can because I don't want to ruin your relationship. I'm just being honest. No, listen. I showed up here for everything. I hate the conversation behind because there's no more private conversations. Like, it's at this point, it's like, I've been, and like, I feel like I'm kind of carrying the flag because I'm not really being effective.

Like, is there, is these people who aren't, like, you live your life as a public figure. I live my life as a public figure, too. Shit, I'm used to, like, if somebody's trying to sue people sitting outside my house, I ain't tripping on that. I don't feel, no, I'm carrying a flag, but I don't feel no remorse for George because George be on academics TV talking crazy. No, hold on, no. I told him, yeah, bro, the gloves are off. I said that publicly.

I said I can't save show. But he said this before you said that publicly. This was literally him folding immediately. No, no, listen, they have stuff they wanted to go out with you and I'm like, they know the reverence there. And then after that, I'm like, yo. But why? In this act, you know this about yourself. You're very loyal.

You're loyal to a fault. Yes. Why was he so quick to be like, yo, man, act told me to do that, blah, blah, blah, blah. You see what this conversation is kind of got off the rails. It's a lot about nothing now because he's now, he's just asking about my relationship with Grand Wizard. And if I'm telling you, nigga, ain't none of you fin of telling me that's going to make me like, now fuck with him. Let's just move on to the obvious shit.

But he's still hammering at that. Like, no, why, why is he like that? Why is he? You wouldn't have done that to him so fast. Listen, man. You would not have done that to him so fast. That's my guy. And I'm going to be honest with you.

And I hear your point of, well, if he could sit behind a page and whatever, why can't people turn the mirror on him? You get what I'm saying? And the only reason I thought of bringing up the crypto shit, because he told one of my men, you know, tell Shalamein, stop mentioning me with all of this crypto. You know, I don't want to get my. house ran up in. And you know the laws in Australia are very different. You got to report every single, no, I didn't. You got to report every single crypto payment to Australian. I can't remember the name of the organization. You did a slide a handle with that because I did talk to him after hearing

you sitting. And he's like, yo, he sent me three articles that was within like two weeks of, I don't know, like a lot of these like crypto kids that are out there, these gangs were running up in their house and holding them at gunpoint. Two of them got killed. Do what? Do you? Download your hard drive. Yes. Yes. Like, we showed you the article. There was, again, you got to remember, crypto, a fairly new version of what currency is,

a lot of younger kids who, like, they're just like living freely, not really taking precaution and were to win in terms of security. They got a lot of money in crypto, and they're just like living normally. So these gangs, rather than go at another, like, gang or like some drug organization, you run up on a

crypto dude and you say, yo, transfer me that shit. They shot and killed like two people in Australia like within the last month of when that happened. So yeah. You got to realize like, again, he's living in nowhere, whatever. Yeah, he's trying to not have his face out there and address. Also, the pictures that

Rot Nations people took got his whole ad, like you literally see his house. Let me ask you a question. When Grand Wizard gets served, because that's the other thing I'll be wondering. When he gets served, who are the lawsuits coming from? Because when y'all are pointing fingers at all of these different people, those names on those lawsuits should be the people y'all pointing at. Are those people from Rock Nation?

Yeah, but it don't work like that. What do you mean? Who are the lawsuits from, is what I'm saying? Okay, no, no. I hear the question. So, you're going to have to remember this is also casino. Jason, right? I'm telling you, every casino or some type of, it could be, if we're talking about call sheet, we're talking about polymarket, if we're talking about those are betting

prediction market. If we're talking about prize fix, we're talking underdog fantasy. Those are fantasy sports. They're all doing the same thing. Like, I had a deal with, with, um, with prize fix and underdog. Spotify got me to deal with underdog. They literally tell you, we're skirting, well, They don't say they're skirting around real laws, but they're like, when you are doing your promo, mention it this way, because this is how we avoid the law. This is entire how casinos,

prediction markets all happen. That's cool. But who are the lawsuits coming from? Okay, so I'm telling you. Those are your ops. No, no, no. No, I'm going to tell you. But that's why I say Rock Nation is involved.

Because- So Rock Nation is suing, y'all. That's who the lawsuits are coming from. It's not. Their name is not going to be on a lawsuit. Why not? So, for example, I, I'll give any, So you think they're funding people to sue you? Yeah, that's of course.

How can you prove that? I'm asking, I don't know. Okay, Charlie, have you read these lawsuits? No. These lawsuits are claiming these people said they don't have no money. Yet their lawyers are going up against states lawyers. Who do you think is fun of that? A broke motherfucker claiming they're suing a billion-dollar casino.

Well, it's just a civil suit. You don't need no money to file a civil suit? There's a million motions, Shaulam. You don't need any money to file a civil suit. Show me. I can file a civil suit right now with no lawyer. You've been in civil suits, right? A hundred percent.

And that's how I know people. How much broke? Plenty of broke people can sue you. Let me ask you a question, whether a defendant or even if you were going at somebody. Because I was just about a suit someone for defamation. Lawyer flat out told me, are you committed at least $100K with this? And you know why? Because you're a public figure.

And by the way, you'd look crazy suing somebody for defamation. Not really. Because you go crazy on people. If somebody can say that you defame folks every. Let me ask you a question. So if someone came out and blatantly called you or labeled you as something. They do all the time. So you say you would never sue? Exactly. No, you're right. I've attempted. That's how I knew Drake was going to sue when Kendrick did what he did.

I've thought about it and attempted, but it's really hard for public figures to ever prove defamation. I'm sure your lawyer told you that. But certain things is blatant, though. It wasn't even that because certain stuff of blatant. If I call you a particular name that's associated with a particular crime that you never got convicted of or you never got arrested of, that's clear defamation. Now, maybe to prove the damages or ballast or whatever, all these other things that go into it, it's just not worth it based on how much you're going to spend. But you also do have a case. If you caught a media personality out there literally saying you're a convicted whatever and they're shouting it loudly on a platform, you're following law. Oh, yeah, yeah, if you're not a convicted whatever.

Of course. Yeah, 100%. But that's what I'm saying. So in those situations, there's somebody who's done that to me. You know what I mean? And they're on a public platform. I don't really think they got much money. But, you know what I mean?

I could probably take a couple of pennies from them. But that's how all of y'all should think. Every single blogger with a platform, anybody that, you know, discusses things for a living, you should really think that, you know, one day that person might get fed up. I think that sometimes you be, not just you, but just bloggers in general, think that they're always going to be the bigger person than they always. You see how you skip that part where I'm basically saying that these lawsuits, they're being funded.

Like, it's not the actual people who's filed lawsuits. Because when you look at the lawyers that these guys have, these guys are just regular citizens filed a lawsuit versus stake and drake in these people. When you look at the lawyers that are representing them in how much they're trying to go at these people, you get to realize they're getting funded, right? Like, you wouldn't sue. Like, these are guys who said, I lost $3,000. on stake, but your lawyer is charging you $3,000 an hour.

You know they're being funded, right? So when he says, yo, so where's Rock Nation name? You're not going to see it there. They're using people. They're just funding it. It's clear. They got better things to do. One day, they just might be like, fuck it.

When you got fucking money. And then what I see a lot of times is that's when everybody starts playing the victim. And I'm just like, no, you know what you say. said. You know how you was moving? Like, like, it's wild. You think I play victim? No. Oh, sometimes. Sometimes. I do. Sometimes.

Um, I think, especially in this situation with Rock Nation, it feels like you're acting like you're getting picked on. But you've got a whole team of people coming at folks. Like, you can't be mad at anybody that comes at George win from Academics TV.

He is crazy. If he was As those you admit that rock, if you was on the other side. That's what I said. That's what I said. Charlotte, get out the way. It's me versus the rock. It's cool. No, it's not.

You don't have it. I promise you. You don't have an issue. They've spent, I'm telling you, I promise you I could go through receipt by receipt. I see what they're doing. They spent at least half a million dollars getting out. On what? The deposition, that's not some cheap.

I got nothing to do with that case. That was a reason for me a death. That's a specific case. That's Megan Nostalian and Torrey Lanes. And by the way, y'all did the same thing. You had a whole. the gas lighting that Charlotte does actually makes you sit back

and be like Charlotte might be evil. Like, I'm gonna be honest with you, I couldn't gas light a thing like this. Like this level of gaslighting whereas like, I would rather Charlotte just hit me with act. I don't know. And you're putting me on game,

but I'm gonna take you at your word. He's defending them. He got no info on none of these things. Like, that's the part that kind of come across is evil. It's like, bro, how are you blindly defending these niggas? You have, I'm giving you, I'm going to give you mad

instance after instance. You can't even really defend it. And you're still gaslighting me like, huh? What? Yo, act, you sure? How could you prove it? Like, yo, come on, bro. Well, campaign against making.

Actually, not. Like, Come on. Bro, they wanted to get Drake in the deposition for the Megan shit, too. What did a drink do? Just because he said that, you know, what he said? He said, she a liar or whatever he said?

they claim was false. Yo, that's when I, by the way. Everything they claimed was false. No. I can even. And also, by the way, if we told them on depositions and even civil cases, all right, cool. Like, listen, I'm not, listen, I did that deposition eight hours, no lawyer.

Maybe not the smartest thing, but I, right, they should hire a bunch of dummies. Let's have a media conversation real quick. Desire Perez been ducking every deposition. She ducking one versus their daughter. There's like five other. She don't want to sit down. I don't know nothing about none of that shit. It's like, oh, that's my friend.

We go out to, yo, Shala don't know nothing. Nothing about anything that we're talking about. Like, come on, bro. Yo, you and Desiree is so locked in. I mentioned one thing. I don't know nothing about none of that shit. Come on, bro. You know these people until I ask you a real question.

I don't know anything about any of this shit you're talking about. I mean, really? How do you know about George, but not? Because there's an article. He knows about George, but he don't know about Desiree who he claims is his friend. How, my nigga? George is a fucking AI that lives out in the ecosystem. Stop, stop, stop.

This is George. I'm going to read you this article. You tell me if I'm tripping. This is from inversewired.com. Nobody even heard about this website. It's not you read from CNN. Shala, you read InverseWire.com. You know, Shala, stop.

You take advantage of the worldwide. Yo, yo, show them. You take it. Yo, let me tell you how a shawl made full of shit. Go to inverse wire.com. This is the same website he said. He's been reading from this website. He's been reading from this website, right?

He's been reading from this website for literally three weeks. Go to it. When you go to it, the top story is still that. It's not like they're covering match. Look, the top story is still that. bro how you've been reading from this imagine CNN has one article up there for three weeks come on bro like

bro why are we going like yo this this website he's he's talking about has the same story on their front page for three weeks how is this like CNN or some come on bro come on bro come on come on come on look it says June 17

June 17th nigga it's it's july 11 and you and you think that's just some random website that's just like come on bro whatever man like you know at this point like i'm giving up you i think advantage of the worldwide niggin that and you know you basically you basically say and you know them niggas don't read yeah yo yo yo yo you know them niggas don't read what charl is doing right now what charl is doing right now he's basically saying yo we got an article from nawrite dot com like that's not true that's not true nobody ever heard that site Okay, well, after this, I'm going to read the Wall Street Journal one.

You ever heard that one? Yeah, but that got, oh, doesn't mention George? It mentions... No, it doesn't mention George. It mentions Drake. Exactly. So, Wall Street Journal, we know, it was legit. Doesn't mention anybody that Charlottleseons talking about.

And Aiden Ross... Oh, so you're moving the cold pose. That's why... That's my whole point you've been moving a cold pose with the Sharper's... Can I read that article? If you don't want me to, I won't. No, no, nobody knows his face. If you don't want me...

Listen, if you don't want me to read it, I won't. Yo, you might as well read... You do deflect. You can't, but you might as well read somebody substack. You go, you use the Wall Street Journal, which is legit. But they're talking about Polly Market. They're talking about Drake who mentioned him in the song, which, by the way, Drake care about whatever you want.

Cool. They mentioned A.A. Ross, who did do a deal with them. Fine. Nothing mentions George. Nothing mentions me. The Jordan mentions in the civil suits. You're not mentioned in these things. But you're using that to make your argument.

Why are you using Polly Market? Listen, I've never done, I didn't do with Kashi. I'm mad, open and honest. You see, Sean Mingo, you won't have to read about it in like some hidden disclosure shit that he's partnered with Rock Nation of Casino. Me, I'm going to tell you, I had a polymarket deal. But you know the difference? You know the difference?

You know the difference? If we had actually got the license and there was a casino open, yes, hey, Shalomane has equity in said casino. But when we're just bidding for a license, the disclosure should. be to two people. The government regulators, which you read yourself, and my employer, which is I heart. Okay, so you're basically saying,

you getting on the radio and basically telling people that your Times Square needs this. Because I really feel that. That's me giving commentary as a media personality. Okay, cool, but you don't feel that you need to. Which is completely above board. Okay, cool. I'm not, you see, unlike you, I'm not trying to, like,

invoke that you did a crime. I'm just saying based on, you got to remember, and this is what also I said, By the way, I only would have equity in said casino if you got the license for the casino. I guess. But what I'm saying is, and this is where my disappointment is, is that a lot of how you move, I've said I looked up to you because I like your openness. The first time I ever did an interview with you, there was somebody I used to work with

on college radio. And like, I didn't know this person had a problem with me. They even brought me upstairs to come through the interview. You remember the first moment. And the first moment you've seen me. elephant in the room and I respected that. I say, yo, you know I like about Charlemagne? He's not going just like, all right, let's not talk about it.

Let's avoid it. Let's get to it. That's how transparent you are. So what I'm saying is that when you're now on the radio and you don't mention it, like. Name five things that I'm invested in. You got a little crystal joint? How do you know that? You've said it.

And it's open. Hold on. But also, when you're promoting even that. fast food chain, you're also saying, yeah. Because that's what you're supposed to do. Okay. If the facility exists, it's there, it's mine. Hey, I opened, me and my wife bought six crystals in South Carolina.

Two of them are currently open. So I'm doing ribbon cuttings. I'm trying to get a point of why you did. Now name some more. You did some weed shit, like some dispensary, right? And me and Rayquan did that. Does that mean I work for Wu time? No.

Okay. Do you work with them, of course? Right? So you're working. Okay, cool. My thing is... But how did you know that? Once again, you said it, but that's what I'm saying.

But why did I say it? Hold on, no. You said everything except the Jay-Z casino thing. Because there's no casino. And by the way, you saw me publicly advocating for it. You said it. I'm at town hall meetings. There's plenty of...

Yo, there's so many articles that came out before this week. Me and Fat Joe at Town Hall meetings, going back and forth with people about casino. We're at Manhattan, Plaza Center, and doing community events, trying to get people to, you know, be open to a casino coming to Times Square. Like, all of this has been public record? Yeah, but Charlotte. Okay.

How do you think Wayne don't even knew it? Charlotte. To put in perspective. Okay. If right now. If my fault, niggas don't read. Yeah, but if you're doing a slight a hand. It's not a slight a hit.

If right now I say, yo, you, Drake dropping some new shit, like some Nauta shit with an owl on it, everybody go copy. That shit looks fire. Right? And I'm just saying that without telling people like, Ray, you know I got a percentage in that. There's a difference. You have actual product.

There's no casino for me to disclose to the public. You're trying to wiggle out of the back right now. Because you're saying, oh, I didn't tell y'all the whole, that whole process was at least 12 months. By the way, there was longer. You're talking about, longer. Hold on. You also talking about these articles that you have.

You name the website nobody has ever. Okay, so you want me to read the Wall Street Journal then since you don't want to read the memoir? Wall Street Journal, but it got nothing to do with us. Here's the thing. Can I just read? Can I just read it, though? Let me just say one thing. Can I read it? You can. You don't want me to read it. One second. You've been deflecting for two weeks.

No, 20 seconds. Yeah, 20 seconds. Every time I bring up this second. And that's why I only keep doing it. Twenty seconds. I'm like, every time your guy, George, Joe's out there. I'm here to talk. And says some wild shit. All right, boom, I'm going to read another article. I'm going to point people in this direction. Okay. You don't want your name next to Crypto, George. Watch this. All right. So give me 20 seconds. So Okay. Even in that casino thing, and we're talking about real articles. The real articles that came from that was that apparently, I don't know if it's Rot Nation or Caesar,

but somebody in that group was trying to bribe. Don't tell me to see that article. It's trying to bribe one of the... I think I didn't see that. Exactly. So when we're talking about, like, this is why I realize Grand doing a hell of job. He's doing like a bang-out job on Rock Nation. Like, I get it.

This is the Rot Nation 30th, but I ain't going to lie. He is, I guess there are people in the dark. I think a lot of, it's not. Charlie, you mentioned it for three weeks in a row. Like, act. This is what I mean when I say y'all play victim. He's mentioning me every day. No, it's who?

I get on brilliant idiots and talk about this shit for 20 minutes for two episodes. And he loses his mind. And there's only two episodes. No, by the way, but I'm not mad that you did that. What I'm saying is that if this guy raises to your level of radar, you're one of the greatest media personalities of all time. What you're talking?

George, right? Only because that's your man. And you're pulling obscure articles. No, no, no. I'm saying, what about the articles where Rock Nation where they're trying to pay off people to get the casino bid, which failed? And I'm going to be honest with you.

I really think all that stem from that. So, time about he can post rumors and gossip and bullshit about me and others. But if I talk about these articles, the rumors, the gossip and potentially bullshit. I'm wrong? No, no, I didn't say you're wrong. What I'm saying is that...

But that's what you're implying. No, no, I'm implying that... This is what I mean when I say y'all play video. I'm implying that he's so effective. He's so effective that basically there are certain other people who keep throwing rocks at me. I'm not giving him free back to back to the things. Like, even when I had to mention, Jeremy, I felt...

I'm like... His thing. I'm like talking about like a bomb. I can give a fuck about George Wayne. You know why I care about George Wayne? Because George Wynn comes under the guise of academic. TV. So for me, it's like, damn, this guy that I know for almost 20 years, gave him his first interview way, way back in the day, whenever there's an issue, me and him on the phone,

like whether it's about you or whether it's about me, and when I call you to do what we always do, I give you a heads up on some shit. You let your guy go in? No, but it was the most elusive heads up, Charlotte. No, I gave you names. I gave you directed. I'm not even going to talk about what we all talked about on the phone for two and a half hours, but there was one thing. in particular, you talked to me about an artist. And we can talk about this because you talk about this publicly. You talked to me about a little baby. Yeah.

Right? You felt like little baby lined you up. Of course he did. You said, you know, little baby had a conversation. Little baby told you everything was good, but then you ended up getting into altercation you're one of the little baby's guy. Yeah.

You got more smoke for people that I haven't seen do anything to you. And you do that guy who lined you up. Oh, I got smoke for him too. It's just that with him, it's easy. Like any rapper who's ever, well, I felt even, you know, did whatever to make me feel a certain way about him. Yeah, of course. Like, I can't wait for his rollout to come. It's going to happen.

Like, I've seen what I've done to his career before. I've seen it. Like, he literally got on the phone with me because he said I was stepping on everything he had going on. Don't worry, it'll happen again. So I do got smoke for him. But then you're trying to play from Rod Nation. No, not. They're the invisible opponent.

This is why even as of recent, I'm like, Charlemagne, nobody. really is trying to even talk about you. Just get out the way. Let Desiree and Jay-Z sit. They are the people that everybody's shooting. This is why this is delusional to me. Even if that's true. If that's true.

You're running defense for them. Why? I'm not. If that's true, I can move out the way. If that's true. Why would you want that problem? They want the problem with me. I'm not saying.

Because you and academics TV and whoever else probably won't shut the fuck up. All right. So you basically. So you basically hear. Oh, y'all won't shut up. Y'all won't get down with the program. No, nigger. If they want to control it, it's on.

It's not about control. This week alone, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, enjoying my vacation. What's good? When I, come on, of course. When I, when I, I'm, I'm going to show you something when we get off there. I guess I got to disclose that, too. You got to disclose it. Yo, the shawl have made this load.

Yo, check that pit. Peckle for a wire, airpiece, you know what I mean? But when I would get back to the room, I would look at things, and I would laugh my ass off. Because I'm not going to front. It made me feel important that you had your whole legion of Internet doom going at me. It's like everybody. I'm like, oh, he got the whole squad.

Every cosmetically challenged motherfucker, the uneniciable world. All of them. I'm like, oh, shit. Do you think, all right, so I'm glad you said that. And we should get into this part. And it made me, and I'm going to tell you something else. You are important, though. Cool.

But I shouted on the highest, and this is one of the things that kind of hurt me about because I'm like, I'll look up to Charlotte. You don't have to do that. This is what I mean when I say that. What do you mean? You don't have to do that. You don't need any of these other people. All you got to do is pick up the phone, Shala. And I hate it when people would say things like, yo.

Yo, listen, I'm a state this unequivocally clear. And I guess I'm being delusional because apparently, according. is Charlemagne and a lot of y'all internet sleuths jZ and rock and and deser in them they have no idea who i am if y'all thought i came out of this and i will tell you the conclusion of this i do want i do want grand wizard to chill off some of the personal stuff with charlemagne but j z and desire perez and rock nation give him hell like this told me whatever grand wizard's been doing is working versus them niggis so I'm not telling them to stop.

Listen, hey, just make sure, you know, consult the legal person and do what you got to do, nigger. Real talk, because he's giving them hell. All this shit has happened. He's giving them hell, straight up. I've never seen a non-actual media personality put an entire entity that claimed they're so powerful to hell. So really, if it's up to me, well, it is up to me. We're going to chill on Charlotte for a little bit. We do get to a ceasefire.

We're going to chill with any personal things with Charlotte. You know what I mean? Like, we ain't bringing up, chill, no cases, no, chill with that. But, Rot Nation and Desiree, get them niggas hell, man. Fuck all that shit. Oh, Charlamine would never do academics, podcasts and all of this other shit. It's just like, yo. You're a little bit elusive.

I'm watching you do, like, some niggas podcast. This shit was crazy. Well, you're probably right. But it wasn't because I was ducking you. It's just like shit didn't line up. And it didn't, and it was a little bit of ego. because when you got on a scream one night drunk yelling and screaming

show me no this was years ago but when you was mad I wouldn't do the podcast I'm like oh yeah I was I was saying you're right like what you're doing all that for no because I feel like any time when you guys come calling like I'm so big on yeah I'm gonna still defend myself on that like when these things ask me to do something

I like I do it immediately I almost out of reverence to them I act like a lot of times I'm not the A side, like respectfully. When they want me to come do their podcast, I run to go do their podcast. Even this, like, Charlotte's like, let's sit down. You want to do it on this day? All right, okay. Nick, I would much, Nick, it took me three hours going into the city.

I'm not going into New York City mad times. It took me two hours coming back. I hate New York City. I would rather him did it in Jersey. But you know what? Fine. I don't want him to say, nah, act is blah, blah, blah, blah. So he's ducking.

Look. I didn't have to do this sit down. In reality, I think the way the internet had been carrying everything with me and Charlotte, like, I'm fine with it. I was cool. I'm like, I'm good. But I did want to do the sit down because of me and him. I went to them.

I went to their studio. I went to, nah, I'll kind of even it out because, you know, they did produce it. So fine, cool. But, you know, like a lot of times when these guys who have some respect for, they ask me for something. They'd be like, yo, act, could you get on the podcast? You know how many times I'm not trying to do media. Vlad asked me like for an interview. All right.

I know Vlad needs it right now. It's all good. He fell out with boozy, blah, but I don't want to, I don't really want to do no interviews. I really just want to be chill. So I look at me doing things to people when I don't want to do it.

And I'm just like, I get what it might mean for them, blah, blah, blah. To when I kind of like ask for something, I kind of get the run around like, like I'm some peon. And at a point, of course, it's like, yo, my nigga on some real shit.

And especially now, I'm popping a nigga. I don't need none of you niggas. So, like, in reality, that was a point where it's a breaking point of my frustration, because I'm like, if y'all niggas told me to hop on a plane and go to Seattle to go do like a three-way sit-down, me, you, Joe, or whatever, Nick, I'm doing it. Like, no questions asked. But if I ask y'all, Shalameen live in Jersey.

He lived in Jersey. You get what I'm saying? I'm watching him doing every pot. It's like, yo, bro, you can't hop on a pile with your boy? If I'm your boy Yo, he hit me by the breakfast club Could you get up here on Monday? Nick, I'm there.

Immediately. When some other shit happened When I was on brilliant idiots Could you get on brilliant idiots? I'm there. Bro, it feels like I'm begging these niggas to do my platforms, like begging them. And I'll be looking at it like,

yo, it's one thing if I feel like I wasn't the nigga but yo, fuck that nigga, I am that nigga. Like, bro, so now it's on some shit where I'm like, I'd rather not work with your nigga so much. Because, like, I'll do whatever for y'all, but I don't feel none of the same love. I don't feel none of the same love.

The time I got mad with that is like, yo, I got a Spotify deal, bro. I know, yo, one hand wash is the other. Charlemagne is on Netflix. If Charlotte's like, yo, act, I need this because, yo, I need this look for Netflix. You know what if Charlotte said, I need this look for Netflix?

You know what I'm thinking about contracts. I got you, nigga. They're like, I'm going to make sure you good. Nick, I'm on Spotify. Like, now, I need those dope interviews. Nobody doing that. Nobody won't do nothing. When Gillian Wallow, they're on bar stools.

They just read up. They say, got a hundred mill. Oh, I got high in the media for whatever. Of course. Come through, nigga. I'm about to, come on. It's like being a rapper and doing a feature for a nigger. And then when you ask for a feature back, you'd be like,

that's why I see why Cam was mad at J. Cole. Cam did something for J. Cole. He asked for reciprocal shit. And Jay Cole starts skirting him around like he's a bitch-ass nigger. Like, yeah, and I'm gonna get to it. Nah, not, not, eventually. Nah, not right now. A couple months from now.

Nick, he ain't never did it. Well, he actually eventually did it. But so that's how I was feeling. You feel me? Loyalty, you're right. I've always said it. Like, I'm so big on loyalty. I'm so big on, okay, this person gave me this opportunity.

This person looked out for me that I know when when you hit me up and you're like, hey, you want to come do breakfast club? Nig, I'm there. I don't even, there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Anybody, even when, it wasn't only you, I spoke about that moment. I spoke about Gillian Wallow. When they hit me and prompted, like, yo, we need a place to shoot. We want to do an episode with you because, you know, it's a hot at the moment.

Yo, come use my studio. I'm with, I'm like that for everybody who I rock with. And the reason why, too, and that's why I saluted to Joe, because I did Joe, like, during the battle, keep in mind, nigga, during the battle, ain't no media personality's name getting called but mine. I could have just been like I ain't talking to none he on nigga I think he's got to cast me on my stream Joe

Joe wanted me to come up there um whatever of course I might be Joe was mentioned about it of course you Joe I'm gonna come up there I got you now this is what

this is what I also respected about Joe and it also made me look at everything everybody else different because like there was a time with Joe's like you act now I gotta come talk on your platform and I and it's without even me asking

because I don't like asking things to shit but he knew like yo bro i know you came and blessed our shit i know you got your own shit too yo i'm gonna come up there and come fuck with you act and i respected that everybody else you feel like i'm pulling teeth like i'm like bro that's why i really stopped doing the most of that everyday not really is that off the record shit like only when artists come holl at me that i want to talk bro i'm not begging nobody for no interview period okay like especially when you know what i mean like niggies got a really weird way of because

everybody now has a podcast or a podcast deal and everybody's trying to get the look right Not everybody's trying to be reciprocal, so I don't do that shit no more. Because I don't really, like, I really think I heat up the internet by myself, so I don't really want to sit with none of y'all no more. So now when y'all asks me to come to your platforms, I'm almost like, I'm good. I used to like doing it. I don't like doing it no more because I realize this hip-hop media is the most selfish niggas possible. I used to just look up to everybody. I'm down to go wherever, do whatever people's shit.

And then I realize, nigga, you're with Drake said. I'm better by myself, nigga. Fuck that. So I'm not the guy who usually, like, if it were Vlad, like, you know, I tell Vlad yes a million times. For me, I rarely ask for things, but I look, I do look to see a little bit of reciprocity. And I think, I think I kind of had mentioned it. And you're like, like, you didn't say no. You never said no.

But it was almost like, whenever the time is right. And I'm like, though, I got a Spotify deal. I kind of, like, I need to get these sit downs right now. Like, right now, I do that podcast whenever I want to because I mainly streamed. But I felt like it wasn't a priority like that. I'm like, damn, I'm watching you when I see a bunch of other dudes they're trying to kick off their career. They're not even the middle of their career.

They need you. We're going to look at them because they're sitting out with Charlemagne to God. And I've seen you with those people. And I'm like, damn. I do that on purpose. That's strategically to the point you just made. I want to help them. But that's fucked up because some of these niggas, they're born losers.

Some of these niggas are irrelevant and somebody's literally got no talent. And Charlotte is saying I do that strategically. You're going to sit with them. But now when you're on your platform saying, act my friend of 10 years, I gave him his first interview. That shit kind of mean hollow. If you're saying that you would rather do it for a stranger and a bum,

now that we're into the mix, right? Like, yeah, you gave me the first interview. But now that we're kind of competitors, you don't really want to fuck with me no more. Like, come on, you get what I'm saying? Like, it's easy to be like, oh, I'll do something for you. when you're not even close to even being on the same level or even compete with me.

As soon as like I could be in the same discussion, it's kind of like, nigga, I'm good. You get what I'm saying? Get that shit going. You academics. I saw you had a conversation about me when I called you about everyday struggle. You manipulated that conversation as well.

No. I told you that if you keep getting disrespected, you don't have to be there. I said, yo, and I told you, I said that media space isn't respecting your audience yet. Because remember, all of this shit that everybody feels about the internet now, they didn't feel like that back then. They saw it, but they were still trying to play that traditional media game.

You were building an audience that they didn't even have yet. And I just told you, hey, if you keep getting the respected walk off. But did you tell the people, because Joe did. Joe said this publicly. I was making calls to try to get everyday struggle on revolt. Yeah. And I didn't address it in there, so let me address that too. Yo, that Joe to revolt thing, y'all want a Joe.

Like, the reason why I was never with that, and the reason why I never really acknowledged that situation or tell people how that situation could have been is like, basically they were just, they were saying that where's trying to strike a deal with Joe, and if Joe agrees, you could just be piggyback. Now, that's not how everyday struggle was. Everyday struggle was they did a separate thing with Joe

and a separate thing with me. To this day, I never, Charlemagne worked for a clear channel, aka IHeart Media. He never worked for a revolt. Did he is a guy, so Did he had the conversation through like his, like, you know,

show people with Joe. They never called me. Charlemagne called me as saying that he was going to be like an executive producer. So I never spoke to nobody at Revolt. I'm getting little niggas. Don't little niggum me.

I rather don't. do it. So if y'all are basically doing the Joe show, just go do Joe show. And they did do Joe show. Because to this day, if you're trying to do, let me, I got to keep using analogies because everybody just act like I'm just making shit that don't make sense. If niggis is about, remember like Stephen A and Skip Bayless, if niggas was about to try to take that show from ESPN and they only called one nigger, they don't call the other nigger. And they're saying, I bet we're locking it in with one nigger and then someone else who's coming getting added on to the table. Charlemay was never involved in everyday struggle.

If Charlemais is calling me to say, yo, Ackie, I'm trying to set this up. You know, yo, they're working something out with Joe, but yeah, you know, you're coming on too. And I'm like, Charlie, you don't even work for them. So that's not me talking to revolt. So, of course, I never talked to revolt, ever. Joe talked to revolt. And I'm going to be honest with you, that wouldn't be a situation I'd be down for if revolt is trying to say we want Joe and I guess if that bitch ass thing academics are no

niggins I'm good that looks like Rurie and moh okay did you ever tell people that well the revolt a lot of times wait a lot of times people think we got issues because of the things that you say no no the revolt stuff I was never really partied to I told you though but so Joe got it went and I could know what we need to go yeah Joe had a callum yeah charlemagne never connected me to nobody show me just say yo if we get this deal done you're coming. What? Like I'm some little boy. Like, yo, if I get this deal done like, if I get this deal done like

you're part of the mix. Like, you're like the icing on the cake. What the fuck? And I don't work like that. I got my own agent, my own entertainment lawyer. I got my own representative. I'm not Joe son. But I look like Tray. Shots Trey. But come on, bro. Like, y'all can't just like, oh yeah, we're

working it out with Joe and you'll just be part of it. Huh? Conversations. And then Joe went and did some other shit. And then I was like an afterthought with that particular thing. So it was not like I'm like in the huddle, the group huddle. The point about the everyday struggle thing, okay, I'll give you that there is some context missing because you were like, yo, bro, I think you're getting disrespecting on that show. It's true.

However, I- Joe stood up and looked in your face and was yelling at you. But also it was good theater. And that's where I was trying to like balance it. Like I'm kind of new in the game. And like I still, I have so much love for that show because. it needed to be that. It couldn't be, okay, you got your audience,

and now you're supposed to be looking like this, this Dom Dada, like, yo, you're supposed to get tested. Now, obviously, we were some respect, of course. But the only part of that conversation I said, I said the part where you said, you know how you do, nigga, when you go in, walk off on air if that shit happens. And that, like, I thought about it.

I don't remember saying that, though. No, you did. I remember saying, quick to show. I don't know if I said walk off on air. Trust me. I don't know if I really don't remember if I said that. Charlotte, during that time I remember, me, we definitely talked a bunch. I remember even with the, I remember talking to you about the Waleigh thing.

Or the Waleigh thing. Walee was coming up to the show. And it was like an online moment that was preempting it where he was just like, yo, a nigga like you can't call me corny. And I remember talking to you and you basically was like, yo, act. you the type of personality that I'm watching, I'm watching you become. You got to say it in this face.

As soon as he comes in, you need to say, listen to him, Waleigh. And I did that. I felt like you kind of slammed it a bit. Like I remember your comments, but it wasn't like... I don't remember you calling Walee Coney's face. No, I said, I made the comment.

I said, I made the comment because I was voicing what people were already saying about your online. No, you can't do that. You got to say, I think you called it. But back in the day, That's not what I said. I said, said, people think Waleigh's corny.

That was the conversation at the time. Oh, I thought you called him corny. You called these rappers corny because like, He said Wolle, that's my gosh. Who's the Joe to? Listen, that's another thing, and I hope for us to get from this conversation, after we have our conversation,

I'm thinking I'm just going to make the rounds. Not just the round. You should. But like, just really Joe. Like, because we don't, this shit is stupid. To me, when I say, sit back and I look at all of this shit that's been going on.

Are you going to George? Am I going to George? I don't give a fuck about George. That's your man. I don't have to deal with George. That's your guy. I don't even fuck about that Vietnamese kid from Australia. That's why I think things went.

George would never hear me mention his name if he started shooting at me. Okay, privately. So then I get it publicly, which I think that's your fault, though. You did that. I wanted you how to do. But I call because I called. you privately. But I'm not going to hold it.

You didn't have to make any of this public. None. Let me ask the question. If I call you and I'll tell you something about Shultz, are you going to tell them? Yeah. If you got to think like that, you don't fuck with you. No, I had to think about what you said.

Yeah. The moment I fuck with a nigga and you caught like, again, I'm not saying it to throw you under the bus. But I didn't know you when that dude was close like that. That dude lives all the way in Australia. You know me and Shorts are close. So if I'm with somebody every week talking to them every day

and you tell me something about them Of course I'm going to them I didn't know you and George Had that type of relationship You say it all time He's AI, he's just now I don't know So I'm just thinking I'm giving you a heads up

Because these internet dudes Don got pressed And now they're saying Hey, Ack and Drake Are the ones we get our marching orders from Okay, can we get back to the sleight of hand Because I want you to read that article No, you don't

I do. Can I read enough? Yes. All right Are we going to start with a reputable outlet Wall Street Journal first, because I want you to read that and then tell me what got to do with me or got to do it with George. I didn't say.

The Wall Street Journal one... You keep quoting it. The reason I say it has something to do with you because you told me out of your own mouth that George is the king of the clippers. And when you see these articles from the Wall Street Journal that says... Clippin isn't illegal, though.

It says... It just says, new investigation by the Wall Street Journal. Polymarket is paying scores of offshore clippers to quietly promote its international exchange in the U.S. though it was banned from letting Americans trade on the platform. Polymarket made dummy websites mirroring its real sites, mirroring its real sites, then pay creators to use the fake site and pretend to win thousands.

Creators altered headlines and used outdated footage to imply they won bets, even when they often lost. Polymarket paid aid and Ross multiple millions of promoters site. That's Wall Street Journey. Okay. So by the way, now let's use a little bit of context. Okay. What you read there, if someone is to be in trouble,

was in trouble. The clip was in probably Aiden Ross. And Polly Market. I would say polymarkets first. If you're saying a bazaic casino. They always get the little fish first because they know that the little fish eventually will tell on the big fish. We told you this are showing. You have never watched the gangster movies? You've never watched a mob forces. This is how it happens. This is how it happens. You've never seen that in the street. Like, They'll pick up a fiend. A fiend will have a couple of rocks on them. Where do you get this from?

Oh, they're selling dope over here on this corner or whatever, whatever. Who'd you buy it from? I bought it from this guy named Slim. Now, next thing you know, that block is getting busted because they'll flip Slim. Slim, are you willing to go back in there and make another purchase under cover? Sure. So Slim will go, the person will go in, buy it from Slim. Next thing you know, the cops is reading the spot.

Okay, perfect. Let's see do. And I still want you to read. Okay. But let me, so do you think that it then puts, whether you're saying Aidan Ross, George, but we got Alex right there. I've seen Alex and Shultz do a call sheet ad. I see them do some shit with state. What's that got to do with just a legal? They're not being accused to doing illegal shit with any of those companies. All those companies are being accused of doing illegal shit. Do you read what I just read? Call sheet is being accused of similar, right? This same industry. What I'm saying is that when you're,

You're calling that out and it's not even specifically mentioned anyone you know. What you're basically saying, if you've worked with Polly Market, that's why he keeps reading the Polly Market. I'm not mentioning Polly Market's article. George ain't mentioned in there. Drake is mentioned because of a lyric, but that's it. But he's trying to throw this, oh, the Polly Market article means all y'all are doing illegal shit.

but when I mentioned that his man's has worked with pretty much an example of Polly Market, he's like, oh, yeah, but they're not, no. Maybe the jig is up, literally. No, that's not what I'm saying. Let me read you this. Polymarketing is Wall Street Journal. Polymarketing virality targeted dozens of videos by Aidan Ross, a 25-year-old manistphere phenom with millions of followers for promotion.

Ross has a multi-million dollar deal with Polymarket, according to a person familiar with the negotiation. and he averages a half hour per week on his live screen scrolling through polymarket and commenting on potential trades. In at least five of the videos, Ross identified ways he could use inside information to trade on the platform. In one video targeted for promotion, Ross said he could easily use inside information to trade on the release date of a forthcoming album from the hip-hop artist Drake, who is Ross's acquaintance. Surely keep hitting me for dates. China for Netflix, Polymarket for Brad. Representatives for Ross and Drake declined to comment.

Them the only two smart people in this whole shit. Smart Jewish kids not saying a goddamn thing. Meanwhile, y'all out here just yelling and screaming. By the way, I don't care about any of this shit. All right. So let me stick to, let me stick to like say polymarketing. Can I, when you finish the article? Yeah, no.

Internal materials show that polymarketed by rality promote videos showing how easy it is to conduct insider trades on the platform. Polymarket has paid clippers to promote at least 19 videos, discussing opportunities to use any. Inside information are other tactics to manipulate markets. Polymarket said it prohibits trading based on stolen information, but legal tips are information obtained in breach of a duty of trust, confidentiality, or other legal obligation.

It added that Polymarkets' market integrity framework includes trade monitoring, on-chain transparency, reporting channels, and escalation processes detect, review, and respond to suspicious activity. Where appropriate, we engage with regulators and law enforcement to support the integrity of our markets. The reason I bring that up is because your boss. boy George is being, but they say he's the number one clipper. And by the way, you told me that.

You don't know, you're right. But he doesn't work with, you know, it's like saying, it's like saying, you told him. All right, this guy is the number one basketball player, but then I tell you that the Knicks is in trouble. And you're like, well, isn't your friend the number one basketball player? No, he doesn't work with the Knicks. There's certain shit I don't even want to say because I'm really not trying to get nobody in trouble.

And it's stuff that you told me, but it's stuff that you've blown the one. But it's stuff that you told me. Shaw, but you might as well be... Why am I... Tell me why I'm too short, though. Yeah, you're too short. I'm too short because I called my guy act to give my act a heads up

on all of this type of bullshit. I think you call me for a different reason. I think you called me... Tell me what you think I called you for. I think you call me because I'm going to be honest with you, I think everyone these days, media is at a point now where it's a battle of narratives. And I really think it started with the Kendrick and Drake thing,

where everything is an ongoing narrative. So why would I call Act privately? Give them a heads up on things. Because what I would think you would do with that information is get in front of whatever this is and shape your own narrative. No, no. To shut it down. Basically, I

feel like there's a couple of entities. They've been giving a Rock Nation bell to act. All of this shit came a week or two after I called you. All of these Wall Street Journal articles. But none of them are mentioning the people who you're talking about. Can I read this particular article about

George, can I read this? Can I read this? Yeah, from what site? Just say the site. One more time. InverseWire.com, which is a very reputable site. You're trying to convince the worldwide nigger, that it's not. This is real news.com. You're trying to convince the worldwide niggins that it's not. Who's the author of that one? I'll tell you right now,

the author of it is, his name is Dalton Jackson, Senior Systems and Culture Writer, Systems Media Incentives and the Architecture underneath modern culture. That's who wrote this article. Sounds like a lot of world's words. salad for. This is my own independent blog. It's a substack. Go ahead. I'm going to read this, and we can move on from this, honestly. But I'm going to read you this. I just want to know what

you think about this. Yeah, go ahead. Here's where the Luke closes on itself and gets genuinely strange. The lawsuits allege those rigged casino winnings weren't only for show. They were a laundering rail. Money allegedly moved through states encrypted tipping feature described in the complaints as a wholly encrypted and substantially unregulated tool, perfect for pushing untraceable crypto the people you'd rather not be caught paying. And who got paid? Spot operators. The suits claim the proceeds finance screaming farms that pumped out millions of fake plays of Drake's catalog, vending Spotify's algorithm, faking a culture-wide consensus, manufacturing the very stardom that made the casino deal valuable in the first place. A rich casino generates fake wins. The fake wins fund

fake screens. The fake screams manufacture real fame. The real fan sells the casino, a perfect circle that never once touches reality, which brings us finally to the man behind the curtain, who you genuinely cannot make this up, goes by Grand Wizard. George Wynne, an Australian named as a defendant, allegedly runs the academics TV account and operates in chat under that handle. The filings cast him as the operational hinge, the guy who converts the state crypto to cash, lies on with the bot vendors, and coordinates narratives.

The paid clips... You see how he'll put out the allegation? So, oh, he converts paid things to clips or whatever. But if I ask him for the proof, no proof. but he's asking for proof everything with the Rite Nation, huh? An Australian named as a defendant allegedly runs the academics TV account and operates in chat under that handle. The filings cast him as the operational hinge, the guy who converts the state crypto to cash,

lies on with the bot vendors, and coordinates narratives. The paid clips, the manufactured praise, the slander of rival artists, the synthetic chat hype that makes a stage moment feel organic. And per the elite chat logs, the complaints lean on, the wizard wasn't freelancing. he was allegedly taking his marching orders straight from Drake and DJ academics. The hype man for the hype was himself a higher. Okay, could I respond to that?

Please. Okay. Now, this is why I said you're doing a media sleight of hand. I'm just reading what D.Rope! This is none of my words. I'm not even saying I believe this shit. Wait, wait, no, no.

So we're going to have a conversation about it. The Wall Street Journal article you read, they actually did some investigative research. What this guy basically is reading that you keep, quote me. He's taken three to four lawsuits. Six. According to the article.

Whatever. Okay, six. And he's just putting that in paragraphs. You should read. What's wrong with reading? Charlotte, because if every... That's like putting the Epstein list in a paragraph and saying, according to the reports, Jay-Z fucked these kids. You know what I'm saying? So I'm trying to say like, but the dude just paraphrase a lawsuit that we already said

is bullshit. Not because he put it in the article means it's something better. Everybody took every allegation against you that was a civil lawsuit and then wrote your profile. That's what they do. According to Charlemagne, this is how we asked. He does this. You'd be like, listen, are we going to add some context to it? So if we want to go through it, because that sounds like a decently, it might be chat GPT.

That guy doesn't look like he's doing too much investigation. Could you stop? No, no, no, I'm serious. I don't even know him. I didn't even see him. Hold on. Because he hasn't done any research beyond those things. No, you got to read this whole article.

This is a good article. I did read it. Okay. But everything he's alleging, like, we alone. So when you read these articles, how come you don't take that to your screen? No, no, no. And have these conversations with your audience. All right, so I'm having it with you.

Okay. I'll tell you I was bullshit. Okay. And I want to ask you what you believe. And don't do the, I don't know what to believe. Let's do you believe, right? Let me give you something on clipping. Clippin is the most normal and the most, it's the most effective way to promote anything

these days. I'm telling you these things as facts Yeah Epic records just Just dropped the budget over $100,000 In the last three days Because future drop it That's a clipping campaign

This is how you need to post future This is whatever whatever We want to make this big Don't mention this, don't mention that Goes to Clippers I have access to I know the biggest Clippers That's not money to me

But I know about it The labels are doing it So the labels put money In Clippers hands What they got to do What's the legal shit that they're being accused of, though? I'm with you on the clip. No, no, no.

Because there's nothing illegal about clipping. No, no. But if you're paying clippers to do illegal shit, then it can become illegal. Okay. And what I'm trying to tell you is that if I'm telling you this, I'm pulling back the curtain. I'm telling you labels would just pay a clipper. Why the fuck would the biggest artist in the world, Drake, need illegal gambling or online gambling and George Tabad his streams? Does that make sense, y'all?

And come on, my brother. It's yes and no, bro. Come on. Listen, I literally said. I'm telling you what's happening with future. If you listen to Brunei this, I said this. I said, I'm going to even shoot Drake some bell. I said, sometimes you can be involved with people and not know exactly what they got going on.

You can be using these clippers to push your narratives. You can be using these clippers to promote your songs. But these clippers might also be involved in some other shit. No, I'm not. No, no, no. What I'm saying to you, everything you're reading that this guy is writing that can't from these civil suits, I want to address it. It is false.

Oh, do you think, oh, so you're asking, do I think Drake would be doing this? My answer is not doing it. Republic Records, which is his label ain't doing it? That's a lie. Republic Records is, is Botton Drake's music through steak? Because that's what it is. I don't know.

No, I'm saying. You said it was a good article. When it comes to using the clippers, the push now. You don't want to talk about the article, no way, because the article's based on the lawsuits. I'll tell you the lawsuits bullshit. The lawsuits claim, oh, they're laundering money through state.com to

purchase fake streams for Drake. Okay, so let's talk about it. Do you believe that or you're an idiot? He knows he's intellectually dishonest, but he can't be that intellect because that just sounds stupid. So I'm asking him because he says a great article.

How is it a great article when all they did was regurgitate and act like his facts, allegations in a bullshit lawsuit? Paratives? Okay. And make yourself look larger than life? Okay, so we're going off the article

that you say you said your man Dalton did, right? And I'm saying that he's foolish. He mentioned a bunch of different things clippers to do, not just the but let's talk about the illegal ones because I just mentioned legal ones. The future shit's legal. Okay. That's legal. You're saying, well, what about this illegal stuff?

Okay, so let's talk about what could be illegal, right? Yes, theoretically, it could be illegal if there is money being transfers, sent back and forth through countries to bot streams. Especially if it's crypto. Yeah, but crypto is not a crime. Is that if you're, if you have crypto currency? No. If you're not reports. That's why you think that.

If you're not rep- No, I don't- If- Charlemagne think having crypto is indication or evidence of a crime. Why he doesn't have crypto? Like,

Charlemagne kind of, like, I hate, you know, when I say this, they're going to be like, Ack, you know,

you're getting older, too. Shalamey's just old, my nigga. Shalamey, you could tell by their tactics. They're just old, bro.

And it's not about really even age. It's just like, bro, they're amazed by clippers that means they're not up with the times he's talking about cryptocurrency like it's the indication of a crime like people don't just use crypto just for for a being a investment vehicle this guy literally is associating things that he just doesn't know because he's just old and let me stop using old just out of touch because you could be 70 years old and be up with the times oh

Clippers? What's that? Oh, that sounds like money laundering. Huh? What are you talking about? Future just did Clippin first album. Oh, crypto? Oh, they must be trying to hide something. Why aren't they using cash? Bro, are you fucking kidding me? This is how Jay Z, Rock Nation, Desiree Perez, and Charlemagne the God thing. They're just old. I'm sorry to say. You're not reporting it. And let me just stop saying. They're out of touch. They come across like dinosaurs. You get what I'm saying? They come across like dinosaurs,

not up with the times. I pray to God I never get to be that. Even when I'm 70, I want to be up on what the new, what the 25-year-old new meta, like the 25-year-old who's doing the new meta, who's like, no, it's not clipping now. We do this other thing. I want to be able to understand it

without just being ignorant of it and think that I could just like get it away from everything by calling it criminal. Because that's what they're doing. No, it's girlia. How do you, how would you know what? If you're doing it, if you're doing it through tipping features. How would you know he's reporting or not?

I don't. But the people will investigate them probably do. The Dalton make, I have no idea. Surely you say you've read these things. Did you see the other article in the age? You see as soon as you start asking questions, I have no idea. How are you so passionate about something you got no idea about? How?

Everything I showed up to talk about. I could I wasn't going to hit him with the Oh no there's a lawsuit like no nigga I'll talk about every allegation What's up? Dot com Australia

With the ones that said They put the investigators on them The one that said With no new info But it don't matter if it's new or not The thing I'd be wanting to know Is how come you're not having These conversations with your audience

Because did not talk about it on stream one time I talked about it on stream once I was like yo they got this bullshit lawsuit versus staking It was just staking Aiden in that point And I was just like, look, they really think niggas is bought in streams through steak. State doesn't deal with music. I'm trying to have it with you.

No, no, no, no. But you said you're so transparent. No, no. Shut up. Okay. I've spoke about these lawsuits because they filed them against drinking and, um, um, um, eight before. I've said they're bullshit.

They're, but do you tell the people what you're, what they're actually being accused of? It's one thing to explain the clipping. It's one thing to explain. We go through the art. It's one. I've never seen you go to an article. I've never seen you go to an article. I've went through it.

I went through one of them. But the allegations, I'm telling you, that's what I'm saying. Mention the specific allegations and we could. Wait, my, chipping? Did the audio go out? Wait, what? What the fuck? Did the audio go out?

Hey, hey. Hey, somebody on my team. We need the audio from here. Get it from the backup device. I got to publish it. I don't know what I said. It might not be no crazy shit, but no words left on set. I need this

Uh-uh Uh-uh We went to the studio in New York I traveled I took me Two and a half hours In traffic to get there This is this expensive studio

In the sky They said this is some new shit They got They had five mics We only had one mic I put a mic on here Under my shirt Because my man was recorded

But they had five mics One two Three They put a mic on me here Ain't no way there should be no no drop out in audio y'all got backup audios on backup audios plus charlemagne got the rock nation listening device

right here you don't see you keep pointing out of paper blame right here oh hell no are you serious yo chat is no something must have happened wait what's going on no no some some oh no no no no it's this thing okay okay okay okay okay my bad hi let me just refresh you

what the fuck I was about to say Wait, why is... Is it my thing? Yo, bro, what is going on? Yo, how come I never have these type of problems? No, I think it's me, Chad. Hold on, I think it's me. But you just heard me play the Drake thing, and it works.

Has you in a deposition? Purge yourself. So why would you ever do that without a law? But even then, everything is interconnected, though. Right? And even then, that's what I'm saying? If we talk about the conversation, I'm saying that they don't have...

Get belted ass. Oh, my bad. My bad. Okay, okay. Okay. That was me, Chad. That was me. False alarm. False alarm. We already lost connection. Then we lost all you. I'm like, yo. To support the integrity of our markets. The reason I bring that up is because your boy George is negotiations.

And he averages a half hour per week on. There you go. How much I'm trying? Because what I would think, what I would think you would do with that information is marching orders straight from Drake. I know about it. The labels are doing it. So the labels put money in Clippers. My bad. My bad. I got to do just illegal shit that they're being accused of, though. I'm with you on the- No, no, no. Because there's nothing illegal about clipping.

No, no. But if you're paying clippers to do a legal shit, then it can become illegal. Okay. And what I'm trying to tell you is that if I'm telling you this, I'm pulling back the curtain, I'm telling you labels would just pay a clipper. Why the fuck would the biggest artist in the world, Drake, need illegal gambling or online gambling and George Tabada streams? Does that make sense, Charlottoman?

Come on, my brother. It's yes or no, but come on. Listen, I literally said... I'm telling you what's happening with future. If you listen to Brinidis, I said this. I said, I'm going to even shoot Drake some bail. I said, sometimes you can be involved with people and not know exactly what they got going on.

You can be using these clippers. Yo, chat, once again, chat. Chat, once again, I want to show y'all this media slider-hand shit. I want to show you this media slider-hand shit. I'm never going to ever stop. I'm going to continue to apply Bell to ask. Listen, I don't care how this go. Whenever I'm not in this shit no more,

just always remember. Listen, act wasn't perfect. I disagree with him at times, but that nigga gave us everything and he just gave us the truth. I'm going to go back because I just got some info right now. Shout to grand.

Shout to my niggas in the chat. Can I read this? Can I read this? Yeah, from what site? Just say the site. One more time. InverseWire.com, which is a very reputable site.

You're trying to convince the worldwide digging that is not. This is real news.com. You hear Shalameen. You see this what I'm saying. Yo, your Shalda plays them dirty tactics. Oh,

he comes, by the way, he had a printout too. He had to print out on the side of him. I got to read this from inverse y. I said, nah, just read the shit from Wall Street Journal.

The Wall Street Journal shit don't mention me, don't mention George, don't mention nothing about what we're talking about. And the Wall Street Journal shit mentions Polly Market and don't mention nothing about streams

and mentions Drake. It only says Drake shouted them out. That's it. Here what Charlotte says to me, right? Listen, listen again. I really think it started with the Kendrick and Drake thing. Listen, privately. Listen to this.

Listen to this. Because what I would think what I would think you would do with that information is get in front of whatever this is. A couple of entities. There's a rock nation. Here we go. Here we go.

Remember, I, listen. All of this shit came a week or two after I was, I called you. All of these Wall Street Journal articles, But none of them are mentioning the people who you're talking about. Can I read this particular article about George? Can I read this? Where are you going to read from?

Can I read this? Yeah, from what site? Just say the site one more time. InverseWire.com, which is a very reputable site. You're trying to convince the worldwide niggernet is not. This is real news.com. You're trying to convince the worldwide niggins. Okay, chat.

I'm going to show y'all somewhere right here, and this is you're going to realize this whole media shit is fake. Remember I told you you you go to this website, inversewire.com. I said it's kind of odd that this art. that this article is up here from like four weeks ago. It's still at the top. Any news website would have recycled their top story, but it's still up there about pay no attention to the Grand Wizard.

This is an article pretty much about Grand Wizard. It just uses Drake and Aiden as a thumbnail. Yeah, what does Charlemagne say? Let's go back. Let's go back. Sharman, this is why you keep getting these gotchas, right? You got to stop line, Charlotte. I love you, but you've got to stop line.

Here we go. I'm going to world. Here we go. I read this. Can I read this? Yeah, from what site? Just say the site. One more time.

Inversewire.com, which is a very reputable site. Inversewire. com, which is a real reputable site. Charlemagne, the guy, the guy who's involved in politics, who's interviewed goddamn Kamala Harris, I think even Joe Biden. You see what he's saying is a reputable site. Inverse wire. We're on it.

I told you the article on there. The last, the date of. publishing was June 17th is still on their front page. Let's do a little research chat. Everybody could do this. You go to a website called who is.com. This is going to give you the info about every website in the world. Who is dot com?

Y'all could do it yourself. Let's go to Domainer IP and type in inverse wire.com. When you type that in, it says the fucking website was registered on 513, two days before Drake album dropped. my nigga. Like come on, bro. This is who I'm dealing with in the media. Mad reputable. How's it mad reputable? Nobody ever heard of it. No, it's mad reputable. It was registered two days before Drake album dropped. Come on, bro.

Yo, y'all, I'm telling y'all, this y'all, yo, where my belt? Where my belt? Y'all going to keep getting belt to ass when y'all keep lying like this. How many more do I got to debunk? Look, registered on. Registered on. Come on. Like, come on, bro. The website was set up two days before Drate's album went out. Why? Clearly, a smear campaign versus the niggas they feel is giving a belt of ass.

Bro, chat, do I need to say more? Let's go back to Charlemagne's own words. Let's go back every time I keep exposing them. Yo, Rock Nation, Jay Z, you're stupid-ass employees. I can't do nothing with me. You hire a bunch of illiterate motherfuckers. And as soon as y'all try to get over this dumb shit, I suppose y'all again.

Stop it. How do you get caught in this very reputable website? Nick, it was established two days for a Drake's album. What are you talking about? I called you. I read this particular article about George. Can I read this? Can I read this?

Yeah, from what site? Just say the site. One more time. InverseWire.com, which is a very reputable site. You're trying to convince the worldwide thing. This is real news.com. You're trying to convince the worldwide niggins that it's not. Who's the author on that?

I'll tell you right now, the author of it is, his name is. Dalton Jackson, Senior Systems and Culture Writer, Systems Media, Incentives, and the Architecture Underneath Modern Culture. That's who wrote this article. Sounds like a lot of word salad for. This is my own independent blog. It's a substact. Go ahead.

I'm going to read this. Yo, I called it out on the spot. Yo, shout to my nigga in the chat who just put us up on game. I'll tell you where I just got that exposure from. somebody in the chat just said act we just checked the site you know this shit was registered two days well ice man came out ice man came out on 515

they registered a site to print something defaming bringing down alluding that drake is a criminal on 513 and charlemagne is the only nigga in media talking about it claiming it's mad reputable what are we talking about but according to them according to them there is no

there is nobody who's an opponent come on bro what are we talking about chat this is like the 6-9 interview could I put my glasses back on could I put yo

come on chat chat you see what I'm dealing with a hip-hop media you're by the way you know it's funny we're at the point in the interview he's about to say I'm crazy

Charlemagne's about to say act you sound manic right now while he just told me he's reading from a reputable website that got literally established two days before Drake's album came out like come on bro Jackson senior systems and culture writer

systems media incentives and he's reading this nick he's reigned down this nigga's like fucking thing all right chat this shit is this is crazy this shit let's click on the article right we'll click on the article We click on the article. We click on the article.

This is Dalton Jell. Come on, bro. Come on, bro. Come on, bro. All right, man. Architecture underneath modern culture. That's who wrote this article. Sounds like a lot of words salad for.

This is my own independent blog. It's a substack. Go ahead. I'm going to read this. We can move on from this, honestly. But I'm going to read you this. I just want to know what you think about this. Go ahead.

By the way, chat. Here's where the loop closes on itself and gets genuinely strange. The lawsuits allege those rigged casino winnings weren't only for show. They were a laundering rail. Money allegedly moved. Chat, you go to the website. I think Dalton wrote

every article. I think every article he wrote. June 23rd, LeBron Farewell. Let's see who wrote it. Okay, there's another person. There's a Jay-Z article. I got to see who wrote it. By the way, I'm doing this in real time. So I'm not, there's no J-Z reasonable doubt.

Okay, there's actually another. article the guy in there but ain't it ironic it only pops up two days before who's this guy this guy who writes an article big in up j z j z reasonable doubt hits 30 and hip-pop still taking notes let's click on him you click on him his last article is j z is drake aged himself down interesting interesting so ironically this is a website that is shitting on drake big and up jay Interesting. His tagline is tracking internet culture

before it hits mainstream. Let's go to this Dalton, nigga, now. Which, by the way, again, it's weird that this is the same, it's still on the front page. Let's go click on this, nigga. Systems, Media, Incentives, and Architecture underneath modern culture. This guy right here.

It even looks like an AI picture, bro. Like, yo, this even looks AI, my nigga. This shit look like an AI. It looks AI. Bro, it looks AI. This is like where the... Come on, yo, chat. Listen, I'm going to be honest with you.

I know there's a lot of people in the media whether y'all like me or not. I get it, cool. But this is the true test of whether y'all are sheep and whether y'all are idiots. Because y'all should be able to just vehemently call out search. You know how since we call out that, Jeremy, we haven't seen them since?

Haven't seen them since. As soon as you call these niggis out as liars, they just disappear like poof there's no comeback there's no apologies they just never be seen again dalton jackson does anyone have his like socials does anyone has his socials does anyone has dalton jackson socials i'm looking for a lincoln i don't see it i look i look for lincoln jackson inverse wire lincoln 60 plus Dalton Jackson profiles. None of them go back to that.

Yo, this is an evil world we live in, bro. This is a evil fucking world we live in, gang. This is a evil world we live in. That's what I'm going to tell y'all, chat. This is an evil fucking world we living, bro. This is a evil fucking world we live in. If you go back on the who is page, you can't find the person who actually registered it.

It just goes to this company, which is a hosting company. If you type in this and you search this, it's going to bring you to the information about where this thing is hosted. If anybody knows about a website, you probably are familiar with Bluehost, GoDaddy. That's U.S.-based website hosting companies. This website that Charlemagne is quoting, listen to where it says, the official corporate entity and ICANN accredited registrar

is head is headquartered in Lithuania. So they're using a Lithuania hosting company. If you're a regular if you're a regular outlet in America like I don't know

shit, is there a hip-hop page these days? I don't know. But CNN wouldn't try to host their servers in Lithuania with over 490 employees, the company generates that and operates globally for da-da-da-da-da. Core services, share hosting, cloud hosting, VPS domain registration, and AI website building. Inversewire.com.

This shit was registered two days before Drake's album dropped. Y'all got it. Through state's encrypted tipping feature described in the complaints as a wholly encrypted and substantially unregulated tool, perfect for pushing untraceable crypto to people you'd rather not be caught pain. And who got paid? Spot operators. The suits claim the proceeds finance screaming farms that pumped out millions of fake plays of Drake's catalog, vending Spotify's algorithm, faking a culture-wide consensus,

manufacturing the very stardom that made the casino deal valuable in the first place. A rich casino generates fake wins. The fake wins fund fake screams. The fake screams manufacture real fame. The real fan sells the casino, a perfect circle that never once touches reality. which brings us finally to the man behind the curtain, who you genuinely cannot make this up, goes by Grand Wizard. George Wynn, an Australian named as a defendant,

allegedly runs the academics TV account and operates in chat under that handle. The filings cast him as the operational hinge, the guy who converts to state crypto to cash, lies on with the bot vendors, and coordinates narratives. The paid clips, the manufactured praise, the slander of rival artists, the synthetic chat height that makes a stage moment feel organic.

And per the elite chat logs, the complaints lean on. The wizard wasn't freelancing. He was allegedly taking his marching orders straight from Drake and DJ academics. The hype man for the hype was himself a higher. Okay. Could I respond? Chat, I'm starting to think. I'm legit starting to think.

That's a AI built website that was meant to be a hit piece on Drake. That was a, yo, this is something. out, you know they think like clipping is bots. Like that's one of the first things. It's like, oh, clipping is not bots. There's a real people. Actually, in any clipping campaign, they're going to tell you if you bought anything, you're banned.

You're getting out of here. You're not getting paid. I now do believe that they created an AI website. That they are going to pass through Charlemagne as very reputable to have us food because, of course, we weren't going to Google and do a who is, you know, domain name, say, to search. and realized that shit was actually created two days before Drake Iceman dropped.

respond to that? Please. Okay. Now, this is why I said you're doing a media sleight of hand. I'm just reading what they wrote. This is none of my words. I'm not even saying I believe this shit.

Wait, wait, no, no. So we're going to have a conversation about it. The Wall Street Journal article you read, they actually did some investigative research. Now, what I'm saying makes sense. I said, Wall Street Journal article actually did investigate. But none of that got to do with us because they're talking about Polly Market.

This inverse wire shit, you keep saying that's very reputable. All they're doing is summing up lawsuits and allegations. What does, chat? Don't chat GPT just sum up some good shit for y'all. Yo, just sum it up. Just sum it up. You literally are going to hear me say they're just basically putting in paragraph format. with this guy basically is reading that you keep quoting.

He's taking three to four lawsuits. Six, according to the argument. Whatever. Okay, six. And he's just putting that in paragraphs. You should read. What's wrong with reading? Charlotte, because if everybody took every allegation against you,

that was a civil lawsuit and then wrote your profile. That's what they do. According to Charlemagne, this is how we asked. He does this. You'd be like, listen, are we going to add some context to it? So if we want to go through it, because that sounds like a decently, it might be Chad GPT, that guy doesn't look like he's doing it too much investment. Could you stop?

No, no, no, I'm serious. No, you see, I shall all laugh. I said it might be chat GPT. Look, niggily, I called it in a moment. So if we want to go through it, because what it, that sounds like a decently, it might be chat GPT, that guy doesn't look like he's doing it too much investment. Could you stop? No, no, no, no, I'm serious.

See? I don't even know him. I don't even see him. Hold on. Because he hasn't done any research beyond those things. No, you got to read this whole article. This is a good article. I have.

But everything he's alleging, like, we alone. So when you read these articles, how come you don't take that to your screen? No, no, no. And have these conversations with your audience. So I'm having it with you. Okay. I'll tell you I was bullshit. Okay.

And I want to ask you what you believe. And don't do the, I don't know what to believe. Let's do you believe, right? Let me give you something on clipping. Clipping is the most normal and the most. it's the most effective way to promote anything these days. I'm telling you these things as facts. Epic records just dropped the budget over $100,000.

In the last three days, because future dropped it. That's a clipping campaign. This is how you need to post future. This is whatever, whatever. We want to make this big. Don't mention this. Don't mention that. Goes to clippers.

I have access to, I know the biggest clippers. That's not money to me, but I know about it. The labels are doing it. So the labels put money in clippers hands. What they got to do is the legal shit that they're being accused of, though. I'm with you on the clip. No, no, no.

Because there's nothing illegal about clipping. No, no. But if you're paying clippers to do illegal shit, then it can become illegal. Okay. And what I'm trying to tell you is that if I'm telling you this, I'm pulling back the curtain, I'm telling you labels would just pay a clipper.

Why the fuck would the biggest artist in the world, Drake, need illegal gambling or almost? online gambling and George Tabada Streams. Does that make sense, Sean, man? Come on, my brother. It's yes and no, bro. Come on. Listen, I literally said.

I'm telling you what's happened with future. If you listen to Brewery this, I said this. I said, I'm going to even shoot Drake some Bell. I said, sometimes you can be involved with people and not know exactly what they got going on. You can be using these clippers to push your narratives. You could be using these clippers to promote your songs. But these clippers might also be involved in some other shit.

No, I'm not. No, no. What I'm saying to you, Everything you're reading that this guy is writing that came from these civil suits, I want to address it. It is false. Oh, do you think, oh, so you're asking you, do I think Drake would be doing this? My answer is not doing it. Republic Records, which is his label ain't doing it?

That's a lie. Republic Records is, is bought Drake's music through steak? Because that's what it is. Oh, I don't know. I'm saying. No, no, you said it was a good article. When it comes to using the clippers to push narratives. Okay.

And make yourself look larger than life. Okay, so we're going off the article that you're saying, man Dalton did, right? And I'm saying that he's foolish. He mentioned a bunch of different things clippers to do, not just the law screen. But let's talk about the illegal ones, because I just mentioned legal ones. The future shit's legal.

Okay. That's legal. You're saying, well, what about this illegal stuff? Okay, so let's talk about what could be illegal, right? Yes, theoretically, it could be illegal if there is money being transfers, sent back and forth through countries to bot stream. Especially if it's crypto. Yeah, but crypto is not a crime.

Is having crypto? Do you have cryptocurrency? No. If you're not reporting... That's why you think that. If you're not reporting it in Australia. How would you know what... If you're doing it...

If you're doing it through tipping features... How would you know he's reporting or not? I don't. But the people investigate them probably do. The Dalton make... I have no eyes... Sure, do you say you've read these things? Did you see the other article in the age.com?

Australia? The ones that said they put the investigators on them? The one that said... With no new info. It don't matter if it's new. The thing I'd be wanting to know is how come you're not having these conversations with your audience? Because I'm trying to have it with you. No, no, no, no.

But you said you're so transparent. No, no. Charlie. Okay. I've spoke about these lawsuits because they filed them against drinking in, um, um, Aid before. I've said they're bullshit. They're, but do you tell the people what you're, what they're actually being accused of? It's one thing to explain the clipping.

It's one thing that- We go through the art. I've never seen you go to the art. No, no, I've never seen you go to an art. I've, I've went through it. I went through it. one of them. But the allegations, I'm telling you, that's what I'm saying. Mention the specific allegations and we could speak as people would. I just told you. I said, so do you believe that there's, Drake is money laundering his earnings

or whatever through a online gambling casino to get his streams inflated? Does that even sound right? No, but I think George might be. I think George might be involved in doing that tax. So why the hell would, so now the allegation that Drake is doing it. Okay, so we're getting Drake out of the way. So Drake's out of the way. Why would George do it? For money. So who would he be doing it for? I have no idea. If he's doing it for sure, he's not a musician. No, but it could be a musician paying him.

Who do you think is paying? You're saying that there's things here, but now we're assuming a crime. I'm assuming nothing. I'm just reading the article, giving you information. But when we're talking about what's there, you don't even have anything you could like properly fall back on this stage. I just read you everything. These people, this is a foundation. The main accusation, you just agreed with me that you don't. Don't believe Drake is doing that. Oh, let me say this. So give me another accusation.

No, no, no, let me say this. It's hard for me to think Drake would do that. That's honestly how I feel. Wait, what? It's hard for me to... Charlotte's a media legend, man. It's hard for me to think that Drake would do that because why would he have to?

He's not. But that doesn't mean he's not. And I'm not accusing him of anything. I'm just telling you what these allegations are saying. And I'm telling you that your boy, George, is in the middle of all of these allegations. and he was being investigated, and apparently he told investigators he gets his marching orders from Act and Drake.

That was the original genesis of this whole shit. Me calling you privately to tell you that. Why y'all decided to blow it up and make it this thing? I do not know. You told me five different reasons. And that was confusing. That's why I felt like you was a Rot Nation employee trying to do a Sayyaw. Did you hear when I also said...

You said, it's about narrative. You said it was about hate campaigns. Then you said it was politics. And then you said it was crypto. No, the first time I called you, I said that it was politics. But what did I say? I said, when I'm looking at this shit, and I don't see no political payments,

it's just a bunch of music payments. I said, the shit I heard Jeremy say, I don't even have that information. So either way, I'm just giving you information. I'm just giving you the heads up. I'm just letting you know that some shit is out there. Some shit may be coming. And all of this shit-

If somebody sent me your tax returns for the last three years, And I read our verbatim. And you're like, nigga, how'd you get that shit? And I'm not forthcoming about it. At some point, you got to be like, nigga, you're in cohorts with me guy. That's not true. That's ridiculous.

And it's my thing. If you told me, I don't know I will find out. Because we're in media. You don't get anonymous tips? Shala. No, no. You don't get anonymous tips. You don't get mad, random shit sent to you.

And you don't know where it came from. But I will say, at the point where now. Listen, this week alone, I heard you talking to people who was getting mad, random shit from people saying, this is just a source. This is just a source. Have I asked you once who the source was? Yeah, but you haven't. But hear what I'm trying to say. Do you even know who the source is?

Well, there's a few sources. Trust me, I've tried to. Be honest. Do you know who these people are? One of them I've heard about. Okay. A bunch. Okay.

Other people, they're, you have to do some research. So that's my point. Here what I'm saying, though. All right. If it was something, if I was going to call you

to give you the heads up, I'm fine out who that is. I'm going to be like, yo, so this chick over here that know this person. Yo, chat, we got a research team on it. They're saying Dalton Jackson,

it's looking like 95% is coming back to AI. No one could find this guy on social media. you look on the site, it says this person has written 151 articles. Okay, 151 articles since May 15th or May 13th. That's when the website was brought up. Let's click on something else. Let's find one of these other people who write. Let's find.

We want to find another article. We had found another person. Let's see. Is it this? still Dalton Jackson we're trying to find another one let's go to this one Jackson Miller

I'm gonna take a break bro this shit is AI rock nation got an AI look at Jackson let's just look at Jackson Miller for a second and then just remember what Charlemagne said let me just have you out look at Jackson Miller for a second

okay I'm just going to get some water real quick the reputable website This, yo, come on, bro. Charlemagne used the AI website, bro. Yo, how does Rock Nation and Charlemagne keep getting caught like this? Yo, you own part of the casino. Not been told y'all. No, you didn't.

Yo, here's a reputable website. Bro, it's AI. It's fucking AI. Oh, my God, bro. There was another, there's another guy. Let's go find the other guy. another guy that was on the website too. Hold on. Brianna Lawson.

Neyzee Iko? Yo. I'm done with this shit, man. Yo. This shit is, this shit is some shit, man. This is some shit. Claudia Martinez. Really?

Okay. Matt Clement. We can't even click on him. It just goes to inverse sports. Oh, you want to see Matt Clement? this Matt Clement right here. You know why I keep telling Jay Z. Yo, Jay, I'm gonna offer an olive branch to you.

The motherfuckers you have being your mouthpieces, pause, they're so bad at their jobs. That's what I was saying. When Wait-O slipped up, I was like, Yo, Wait-O, I think you read the part that they told you not to read. Like, yo, what's up with you? Yo, Rock Nation has like the worst hires of PR.

They're using blatant AI. They're reading the quiet part out loud They get exposed every single time This shit look like a GTA photo, bro Bro, are y'all serious? Yo, are y'all serious? Y'all sent a AI website

To Charlemagne for him to use Both of the Jackson's They both are Mississippi? What the Nah, this is insane, bro. This is insane. This is insane, y'all. Colton Jackson.

Yo, Charlamine, you're good, bro. Charlamine is fucking good. Charlemagne is good, bro. Charlemagne is good. Two Jackson's. Dalton Jackson and Jackson Miller. That's insane. That is insane.

They got a write-up here that look like clavicular and another one that looked like Janay Iko. This shit is banana. this man. Yo, this shit is crazy, bro. Yo, never in a million years I'll be thinking what I'm up against is like just

they're using AI but they don't even use the smart version. They use some dumb shit. They're flat out lying. Yo, y'all got it, man. Y'all got it. Yo, chat. After this, because I know there's still some people, because I was reading comments on this video, like, yo, why

does act care so much? Like, damn, Ack is beefing with himself. If you still think that you got it, just go look at this person. Act, you didn't give me any time to do nothing. I told you that I was going to set up a conversation with you and Rock Nation.

We talked on a Friday for two and a half hours. By Saturday. If that's not that, if that's not to put the banana in the tailpipe move, like, come on. Like, you think Rock Nation is going to be like, all right, we're done beefing with this guy. Charlotte came here.

Let's have a call. Why not? That's like, yo, if there's actual issues. Did you talk to them? You know what I said. What have they said? If there's actual issues. See, that's also where I get them.

Okay, fuck it. You know me and you don't talk. You say those are your friends. What have they said? A lot of times actual issues can just get resolved with communication. And by the way, we talked for two and a half hours. You gave me a lot of intel that I didn't have on a lot of stuff. You gave me intel on the little baby shit.

And then we started talking about my rock nation. I'm like, yo, what's up with you in rock nation? Why do you go so hard at Rock Nation on that? Can I ask you because everything I'm... Can you tell people what you told me when I asked you that, though? What? Because you didn't tell me all of this shit about depositions and all that shit like that. You told me that...

What? You said, I feel like a lot of us online feel like if somebody big is coming at us... No, I didn't say that. Yes, you did. We got to be with somebody big too, which is drink. No, no, no, no, no. That's exactly what you said to me. No, I told a nigga, media is divided.

I said, yo, the same people who don't... don't like Nikki, don't like Drake, don't like me, don't like Tori. It's one of the reasons, you know, me and, me and Nicky don't really get along like that. But we happen to be in the same boat where like, whatever, like, I'm pretty sure Nikki want to get online, be like, I guess a bitch-ass nigga. I might get online and be like, yo, yo, shut the fuck up, you always hating on somebody. I'm pretty sure. That's, that's me and Nikki, if we would ever, like, get into it back and forth.

The worst thing she's ever said to me is, yo, I'm going to get my husband to fuck you up. that's it all of our mutual ops are operating beyond where you can see them and trust me they've already got a few people on this side locked up

I tell show a man later I think they'll get somebody killed put it like this me and Nikki got an op so big that me and her problem is not even that big no more it's honest true

it's honestly true and it's not like me and Nikki France it's just that Yo, this one op right here, we got to both squabble. It's one of those things where I'm looking at the barbers. I'm like, I don't really fuck with you. No, y'all don't fuck with me. But we're going to get back to beefing after we get this motherfucker over here.

This, you got a team. I ain't going to lie to you got to team up a bit for Rock Nation. Repeat what I said. Okay. I said, these days, what online is, because now everything they try to throw me into, they throw Drake into like we're teammates, right? Drake's my man. and say like, that's my man.

But you know, I was just a big fan of his. I supported him doing some really tough moments in his career. That's why I got to change. Okay. I'm talking about same over here. I've never liked Brake's music. You know that. All right, bet.

So who could pay me to hate drinking? We never said that. What I'm saying is that now, the internet is breaking where there is teams. And I think that's silly. Well, it's not about if it's silly or not, is it happening? These days, you're realizing the people who are super pro JZ, They're usually shitting on Drake. The people who are usually pro- Drake,

they don't give a fuck about whether it's Kendrick or- But shouldn't we be better as media personalities? Why do we fuel that? Like, we should know that, hey, you can have your opinion about an artist. I can have my opinion about an artist. That don't mean the fan base has got to hate each other. That's some Republican-Democrats shit.

Yeah, but all this, I told you, started with Kendrick and Drake. Hip- Hip-hop is never- You help fuel that, too. How I help fuel that. You help fuel that divine. Because- They pull up on being a concert. Because instead of just letting Drake get belted ass, right?

You think I'm going to let him on make a jump. I know. That's crazy. By the way, thank you. Yo, make sure you clip this, grand clip this. This is what not only Jay-Z Rock Nation think. This is what Charlemagne thing because he's saying it, but this is what Kendrick's team also think.

They wanted me to get out the way that they could done Drake, Completely. That's what their beef is with me. They're like, yo, bro, we had him down. We had, yo, you know, it's one of those, that ones where they're, like, they're beating the niggas ass. And then his one friend, like, his one friend ain't even that tough, but he'd come help out. And the niggas got a chance to get back on his feet.

And he's like, oh, shit, you with me? All right, let's fight these niggas. They're blaming me for actually not just backing up and saying, fuck Drake. That's what they're blaming me for. Trust me. That's why they're mad at me, niggas. They actually, yo, when that nigga, um, Dave Free was saying to me, he basically was saying,

yo, act, why you just don't let us do it to this nigga like, why you keep trying to defend him? That's why half the industry mad at me. Because instead of the first time George's mentioned, they pull up on being a counselor. Because instead of just letting Drake get belted ass, right? You think I'm only going to let me get jump. I know. That's crazy. But instead of, you, that would try to let him get.

But instead of just let it let the rap. There was a lot of coward niggies in, in media. But let the rappers rap. Like, listen. No, no, it was bigger than that. Okay. Because a lot of people at that point, like, I know that feeling where niggas think you've done

and niggas feel like it's okay to kick you back in. And, okay, Drake, we get it with the battle, right? Drake and Kendron. But I've seen media personalities gloat. Maybe they wanted an interview or maybe they were promised an interview. And now was the moment, they're like, all right, fine, we got them. So? So they pick us.

That's life. Okay, no, it's cool. So, all right. So he's basically saying, why didn't I let Drake just get finit? Yo, you see how nice? What I guess is this? So what? So what if niggas just switched up?

So what if they just wanted Drake to be finished? Why do you have to try to help him? Like, what? Yo, you see what I'm dealing with? So they picked their side. What I'm saying is that not because my man bleeding out, I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna just be on y'all side now. No, we fight until the end.

You don't have to be on no side. You're still a Drake fan. Objectively, you could say, yo, Drake lost the rap battle. It don't matter. Drake won't still be Drake. That's what I said. The entire media was kicking us back in, us back in, you know, and what I said is he got beat.

If somebody walked in here right now, if two guys walking in jumped on me and you and we got our ass kick, the internet would be gloating. They'd be like, finally, somebody fucked up DJ academics, somebody fucked up Charlamagne the guy. That's the way the game goes. It was more than just about the rap battle. The narratives, too.

It's a reason why you can sue it. I didn't like that. Because the reality is, it's a rap battle. They both said foul shit about each other. They both said defile the shit by the time. This is when I think people start realizing our popular media is, right? Did any of those narratives that came from the battle? Because I think people like you would want the audience to believe that Drake legit just like, you know,

took two years before this Iceman situation that he's, you know, just back to number one again, just because a rap battle. No, there was narratives that's another false narrative. It was narratives that spawned. He didn't take no time off. No, hold on. No, it's not about time off. Okay.

What I'm saying is that he's, I'll try to explain a little bit clearer here quicker. Drake went through two years of bad press. 99% of media niggas jumped off the bandwagon. They stopped giving him the benefit of doubt. They all said that he had to go away, go drink some ayahuasca. Yo, it's over for him. They rode him off. They shitted on everything he was doing.

Every time he tried to tease the record. Yo, bro, he need to just go find himself. Yo, he need to take a break, bro. He needs to go. When the media is putting that type of tint on your career, you can't win. You can't. I was the only nigger on that side to say, fuck it. All of these niggas added up.

I could balance it out. I tried to balance out me versus a thousand media niggas. To balance it out where, like, I'm not saying everybody got to love Drake, but y'all not even giving the nigger a chance. Now, after two years, the narrative went all the way back where they're like, yo, bro, shit is whack now. We want Drake. So the narrative is, fuck that, like, hating shit or whatever. People want Drake. Now Drake drops Iceman.

So you're going to hear me make the point. If Iceman was dropped two months after that battle, everybody in their mama will call it trash. That's how much perception and likability matters. So two years of him going through bad PR is only now when the, You know, he had to kind of like, well, I'm not saying he did this, but I understand the mentality of wait until the right. That's why I kept saying stall them out. I said more and more people are liking you the longer they have to wait. And when people like you more, they're going to give your album more of a shot.

And it fucking worked. The thing is number one again. Back on top. Back on road. Let's go. Listen, more OVO chose to change the come. Let's go. He's back like he never missed a step, in my opinion.

He never went nowhere. Okay. But you're not yet. We're like the party next door album, well, didn't have bops on it. You're right. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that for two years, because of the battle and the fracturing of the fans and also a lot of the media going against him, every negative, there was a time where negative,

like negative campaigns or hate, you know, things against Drake just didn't work. You know why? Because people are like, nah, that's not, that's not. Everything negative said about Drake afterwards worked. You know why? Works how? What do you mean work? When you say work, what do you mean worked?

the people were carrying on these narratives. After the battle, people believed Drake was a piece of shit. Anything negative. Yo, Drake may have done this to a fan. Remember this whole thing that they were doing with Kendrick? They were like, yo, what about the guy in the wheelchair? They were like, yo, oh, they got this stuff. What's the name?

Put it on the thing for Meet the Grams or was it 616. So there was this thought that Drake was just a really fucking evil, narcissistic, just a piece of shit person, and any allegation that was coming out, the only thing that didn't come out, there was no real girl that came out to say he did nothing, but there was mad just like talking down on his character. Because it was at a time, it was believable.

Kendrick just sized them up and said, yo, this guy not cultural, this guy ain't us, and everybody at that point, you had Joe would be like, man, fuck Drake, man. Don't talk to me now when you're, Joe thought he was done to certain extent. That was a thing. Like,

yo, everybody has selective amnesia now that Iceman is kicking y'all ass. And this is why I, listen, that's what I say. I properly take my credit and y'all gonna see that chain a lot more. You know why?

Nigger, that chain, I earned with blood, sweat, and tears, nigga, because when all y'all niggas went against the movement, nigger, I was the only one. I went,

I went one versus a thousand. It was a thousand media niggas. All of them like, E-brose, like them bum-ass thing that was on that fucking show DJ Dickhead. You had Elliot you had a... Yo, it was all of y'all. Digger, like, nigger. And you know what I did?

And I said, Nick, I had this conversation with Drake. I said, don't worry about these media nigga, nigga, I'm gonna give every single one of them belt to ass. I said, you better give every single fucking rapper belt to ass. We had that combo. And I gave every single media member belt to ass. Straight up.

And he gave every rapper belt to ass. I think we did our job. I ain't gonna lie. You won't see me and Drake toasting up in Toronto. Okay, listen, belt was applied and I am happy. I like what my team went. That was driving almost like group think about him in his entire career. Like, you ever heard this quote, even dirty water makes flowers grow?

So people can say negative shit about, they say negative shit about you all the time. Does that stop your career? No, no. People say negative shit about me all the time. Is that stopped my career? People say negative shit about Drake. Does that stop his career?

Okay. Well, they say negative shit about Jay Z and he's coming out an interview saying he's trying to go on offense. Why? Because y'all motherfuckers. Okay, so. Okay, so when Drake... This ain't new.

Okay, so you're acknowledging, because I like that little saying. I don't know how long you had it. But it's clear that it does affect some shit because Jay is now saying after getting his ass kicked with media-wise, PR-wise, people are accusing him of stuff, linking him with other people that did really vile stuff

and just throwing random stuff at him. He said, no, I'm getting on offense now. So he's reacting to the dirty water. What I'm saying is that... I think that one thing that we're missing. This is a... This is where Shawman starts blatantly lying. He's going to try to say,

Jay only is responded because they called him or accused him of pedophilia. That's not true. Jay is responding to Twitter people. He's responding to Drake. He's responding to everything that he thinks has to do with his image.

Not just people thinking that he may be doing some sexually deviant shit. Conversation that's not just about us. We're clearly having a media pop culture conversation. I remember last year, you were saying, like, oh, you know, Jay's going to come out with all of this, you know, promotion and marketing and all of this stuff

next year to change the narrative. And I'm like, act is slick. Because you're not dumb. You knew it was the 30-year anniversary of a reasonable doubt. You knew. Actually not. I just know media. I know media.

I did that in real time. I know media. And I said, damn, what could, what could happen that could give him some positive press? Because I'm telling you how it works. I'm telling you how it honestly worse. Anytime a rapper goes to really bad press, you got you first lean on nostalgia.

I think just like everybody believed, yo, Drake's was putting out those documentary pieces and put out 100 gigs, right? To remind people like, damn, yo, how you're acting like I'm the worst thing ever? I thought y'all love me. Right? I said Jay was going to do the same thing

That's that's media one-on-one my nika Media 101 Remind them make them remember So Jay-Z what the fuck could he make us remember now Okay let's look All right I looked at and I seen a reasonable doubt 30 years Oh bigo that's it That's it

He was either gonna do a documentary Which by the way he is doing a documentary He's doing an eight series a part series documentary So he's doing a documentary Celebration of the first album Yeah You knew that it was going to be Shawlap thing I stepped on it.

No, no, no, no. You knew that. So it's like, it's like, okay, let me play the role of being. Charles, you think I'm that's for. It's like when I come out and I say. No, Sean, I noted me to like the back of my hand. You should, but the worldwide nigger net don't.

So now when they see that it's the 30 year anniversary of reasonable doubt, the 25 year anniversary of the blueprint. Stay with me now. The 30 year anniversary of his first album, which laid the foundation for everything, the 25-year anniversary of arguably his best album and the 10-year anniversary, which what I think is one of his best albums, 4-4-4,

of course it's going to be a media blitz. Of course he's going to do concerts. Of course it's going to be merchandise. Of course he might step out there and do some interviews and more shows. We know this. Also, I could see a PR whitewash from a mile away. All right.

But let me finish my point. Why not use both? Okay. Because that's what me and you do. Me and you are doing that right now. Okay. Me and you are taking the opportunity to say, you know what? Because I've been having the worldwide nigger net talking for two, three weeks.

Let's sit down and do it. Sit down. Because three minutes ago, you literally said that basically those type of things, I'm telling you, it was happening to Drake. You're saying those type of things don't affect you. So, because I'm saying with Drake in the sense of for two years, he kind of got his ass kicked in the media. I'm the only nigger who said, hey, it could be a thousand of y'all. That's my man's. and I thought we evened out in the conversation.

Sure. I'm saying that they don't have, none of it affects these people career-wise. Jay-Z's selling out, Jay-Z got $140,000 tickets sold this weekend at Yankee Stadium. He's selling out all around the world. I begged to differ. He sat in a fucking tear for four days, like, taking out his wicks trying to get, like, an affront of this drink and Nikki Minaj. You don't believe. And none of them responded to him.

You don't believe. You got to stop. You know why you got to stop doing it like that? I know it's bad. Come on. You're smarter than you. The only person responded was Osceino and Dame Dad. Fuck the response.

They've been shitting on that man for four years prior. What Drake said? Drake said the jig is up and he crashed out? This guy referenced Jay Z like four or five times on Iceman. He just said he don't want to file a kid. You just, this is why academics is good. Nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining and you are a great entertainer slash liar. Because, because, because, because, because, because Drake literally made.

mentioned Jay-Z four or five times on Iceman. You know Nicky's been going crazy. What is Jake? Come on. You know, Nicky's been going crazy on him for years. She's been cool. Dan Dash been going, it don't matter. Dame Dash been going crazy on him for years.

He didn't respond him back to him. But fuck a response. They've been talking about him prior. So finally, I give you- He's not on Drake's radar right now. Like, you can tell he didn't get a response. You know Drake usually responds to a lot more people. So you're trying to get my cord is all levels.

No, he trying to get my- He cleared the air. Des, send him in. Cinnamon. Yo, he mentioned J four or five times on Iceman. When? You just referenced too. I know he referenced him, but like, you're acting.

You know, I'm not trying to do what Charlemagne did. I'm not trying to gaslight. When I say Jay-Z isn't on Drake's radar, yes, he had lines like jig is up or whatever. But he's not really, like, really shooting at Jay. Like there's he's not like oh I got to go compete with Jay Jay I keep telling you made his billions outside of music Drake is trying to get and by the way I heard some stuff But I think the ovio the ovio chain prevents me from saying it

But he's trying to get what Jay Z couldn't have even imagined Right and by the way if it gets done he might be rich in Jay But it's talking this is a different conversation anyway What he's trying to get from the labels is JZ is not a blueprint for, no disrespect to JZ. Jay Z. Jay Z's never been in that position. So this idea that he's on Drake's radar, like, yeah, Drake's dropping a few lines.

I'm not going to lie, but he's not, like, focused on this guy who I think this run is going to be Jay Z trying to clean his reputation and trying to shoot back at some of these other people. except I don't think these people are worried about Jay. He's a He's a non-factor for what they want to do. Nikki Minaj. I don't think Nickyman, like,

I do think Nikki got some problems with Jay, but I don't think if Nikki's about to drop an album or whatever Nicky's like next 18 or 24 months is going to look like, Jay is the focus of that. I don't think most people, other than Dame Dash, who sits on, you know, these podcasts and he talks about him pretty frequently. I don't think they're focused on Jay like that.

And Jay might not be focused on them like that, but I do think this run around, this time around, Jay has to be focused on them because, listen, when he just talked about Target, nobody cared. So if it's not Jay addressing artists, Jay's just been in the game for too long. Yes, we'll celebrate your old album, but what are you talking about?

Unless you're going to tell us you cheated on Beyonce one more time, right? It didn't like he's trying to go back and forth. Jay Z went and did a freestyle disc. I can't respond. I'm a rapper. I'm responding directly to your lyrics. The jig is up. Oh, word.

Now, you're looking at the wrong chart. Listen, I'm going to be honest with you. And again, you know, I'm not, you know, word on the street, he didn't get a response. It was kind of weak. That's why. You got to stop. It was kind of weak. Let's be a-

Jay-Z was responding to Drake. Word on the street. The reason why he ain't get a response, it was kind of weak. Gizzy responded to Dr. And, by the way, there's nothing to respond to because it wasn't like it was a diss. But it was a weak response. You say, yo, the jig is up, whatever, whatever. Drake set the jigas up, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Jay gave him a couple of bars. That's what he did. He gave him a couple of bars. But I think that was a great moment. And how can Drake respond? Other than saying, I don't look up to you no more, that's silly. It was a great, it's a great moment where I think people kind of looked at it, be like, yeah, that's the OG, you know, Jay, but it's like, there's like kind of levels in between

right now. Drake shouldn't respond to it. And you know it was dope. That was dope. We're still talking about it now. You talked about it for days. No, no. You know why we talked about it?

You lost your mind. By the way, by the way, I talked about it because he got out of character. Charlemagne, I literally sat with you. I sat with you. We're on the phone. Charlemagne is gaslighting me saying, yo, I don't even think any of these people like, I don't know if you say verbatim like they might not even know what's up with you like. Nah, I don't think that you said literally to me, you said, Jay is too high up.

He's not thinking about Drake. No, I'm talking about him. No, no, I didn't say Drake. I'm talking about you. No, you said, you know, because you referenced his interview, you referenced his interview with,

um, yes, uh, Ferguson. Frazier. Frazier. And Frazier said in the interview because you referenced exactly when Jay said,

yo, why am I thinking about Drake and Kendrick Lamar? And you echoed that. That's why I know it was about Drake. And then five days later, no,

no, everything we talked about on the phone, it's like he was on three way he went on the stage of rap. No, what Jay said was, were you at the concert? No,

what Jay said was, I'm Jay Z. Why would I be jealous of any of these people. And I think he referenced Drake in particular. I can't remember right now. But he said, I'm Jay-Z. Why would I be jealous of any of these people?

That's a specific thing, which I agree with. He's Jay-Z. Why would he be jealous? No. For what? Act, you got to tell me why. Well, why would he respond then? Because he's a rapper.

And he's in- Drake Bees his record. No, no, no. Wrong chart. Listen. Wrong chart, Jim. Listen, he's a rapper who's in rapper mode right now because he's outside.

It's the 30th year, it's the 30-year anniversary of reasonable doubt, the 25-year anniversary of the blueprint. It's actually smart. See, he doesn't do what some of us have to do, meaning that got to respond to every single thing. If I don't got nothing to talk about, if I don't got nothing to promote, you're not going to see me. Now this year, he got all this shit to promote.

Yeah, y'all going to get some smoke. And you said if Jay-Z's out of character, you don't know Jay-Z's career. Jay-Z has always given people smoke. Always through bars. You're going against what you told me, which is he basically not thinking about it. Now he is thinking about he's giving a big smoke.

No, no, no, I didn't say that. See, this is one thing about you. You're good. What I said was, he said, I'm Jay-Z. He said, I'm Jay-Z. I'm not jealous of anybody else because I'm me. I didn't say nothing about not responding to no music. I'm Jay-Z.

I'm not jealous of nobody else. That's how I feel about me. When people say, yo, you're jealous of this person, you're jealous of this person, for what? I'm me. If anything, I salute that individual. I salute those people. You number one on complex.

Let's your act big up. Can I ask you a question? Yes. Because I do think this is also at the center of a lot of this. I believe these days in media, I'm going to make an analogy, but I'm going to use politics. Okay. For years and decades, when it came to U.S. politics, when the topic of Israel came up, people were endeared to it, right?

It was always seen that it was a place that is an ally of the United States and that a place that the U.S. should protect. The conversation has changed these days. When Israel is normally brought up in most political conversations that I see, people are like, damn, why are we going to war for them? It's very drastically changed. I use that analogy to say, I wonder what your perception is on the JZ and Rock Nation conversation now. I believe that when JZian Rock Nation name used to come up, it was a blank kid like, yeah, that's that nigga, like he's from the culture. These days when I hear a lot of people talking about anything with him, whether it's a target thing, and I didn't even give him shit for that,

but they look at it with almost a sour taste in their mouth as of like, you know what, I feel like you guys have misused our trust, misused the culture of equity. And I think that a lot of these other stuff that, you know, you might be bringing up, it's a byproduct of it because I believe J.C. wholeheartedly, he's on offense this year. And he has to fight these narratives. And how do you fight these narratives?

you got to fight also some of the people who might be the biggest and loudest voice pushing that. So what do you think about it or do you at least acknowledge that that's how? I think all of those things are subjective. I think that when you're an artist... Jay Z's Israel, I keep telling you.

Niggins ain't fucking with him no more. That's a fact. Jaycees like Israel, bro. Niggins ain't fucking with that boy no more. And I think he's... Even this last freestyle, I think he's trying to like convince but it's not people as himself

because I think the only way to change it it's to have real conversations. Like, you can't keep gaslighting like, nah, man. Nah, and that boy, like, you disin Kaepernick, like, no, that's part of the reason he's don't like you. You've never really had these qualitative conversations that really make sense that people fully understand the stuff that you did that they could gain trust again.

I think that when you're in the music industry, when you're any type of celebrity, right? By the way, sorry to do a real quick plug, but chat, I want all you out to go to my Instagram page. It doesn't matter personal or my main one. I want you to click on that link in the bio. Event Bright. I'm going to Toronto. Okay? I'm going to be out there with the real sixes.

Don't you worry. July 31st, I'm in Toronto. We still got some tickets. We've been sold out of VIP and meet and greets, but we got some tickets you want to be in the building. I would love to see you all my people who will cross the border. Canada is our first international venue. And if you don't know what does it mean,

DJ Academics Live. I basically do some stand-up. We do some crowd stuff. We do kind of what we do on stream, but also definitely we're going to have a few performers. And we just have a good time, you know. And also we do giveaways. So you guys should definitely come through if you can.

Make it a date night if you're with your woman. If you're just with the boys, just come through, just have some drinks with me. And yeah, we'll have a good time, right? So July 31st, please, there's still tickets available. Get them now because if you've been watching me you're across that border. Shit, even if you're not from that cross that border.

It's Carabana weekend. That used to be LeBron James' favorite weekend. LeBron used to be over there with that wedding ring off. You know what I'm saying? But listen, so Big Act going to be there now. Big Act going to be over there. Because since he's not welcome right now on the 6th, big act going to be there. LeBron used to be over there with that wedding ring off.

Still, I go. But now, I'm going to be over there. I'm going to do my thing. So not only am I there. The whole Carabana Week, your boy, Big Act, will be gallivanting. Galavantin. through the streets, through the clubs, listen, talk to me nice.

I want you out in that building. Anyway, back to regular schedule programming. You know, there's going to be maybe ebbs and flows, but I don't even look at it as ebbs and flows. I just look at it as I'm a Jay-Z fan. You may not be, but I'm 48 years old. So all of those albums mean something to me. So I'm at the concert this weekend with 140,000 other people.

So for all of those people online. This is another. a sleight a hand. He's going to say, because I'm saying, yo, people are not really jacking Jay-Z right now. And he's going to say, act, but I don't know who you're talking about, because I'm going to be at a concert with 140,000 people this weekend. Seems like everybody loves them. A music conversation, though, that people are giving them shit about. Well, sometimes you can get, man, sometimes you can get too big for the room. Sometimes you can be so successful and be so-J-Z so successful, everybody just turned into haters. I like that.

Go at the top of your game for so long that people just start hating you for any reason whatsoever. You got more haters now than you did five years ago. Why do you think that is that? But it's different if the narrative has changed. People will all, how many narratives have they shifted on you over the last three, four years? Sheller, you're avoiding the point. No, I'm not. I'm showing you the point.

When somebody doesn't like you, for whatever reason, they will use anything. that's against you. And they will side with anything that's against you. It can be, you can get online and be the most trivial shit. Like, yeah, we sat around arguing about his hair, bro. Whether his hair was real. Whether you can really comb dreadlocks out. You realize how petty that is, yo?

Yeah, but you're still missing the bigger point. What's the bigger point? The bigger point is that... The bigger point is you got to love niggas more than they hate themselves. I got to ask you this because I think the rest of the, you know, I'm gonna call them interns. I think you gotta be on paroled. They're interns.

There's a couple of, like, I mean, like, they're to who? No, I'm not. I've never, I've never been signed to Rock Nation. I'm not managed by Rock Nation. Is there at least an acknowledgement that when people, like, there's a growing consensus of conversation

that if Jay right now was announced that you, I'm partnering with someone to build a children's hospital in the middle of the hood in New York. People would talk shit. And I'm not just saying only haters. People are looking at him, life. Is he really doing this?

I think what you're saying... You're not... No, I am acknowledged. What you're saying is true, but I promise you that's been going on since the beginning of time for anybody that's in a position of power, for anybody that's successful. There's nobody on this planet who can do anything that

won't receive criticism from people. And this is why I always tell folks, I, you mad, I'm opening up the Children's Hospital. Well, go do something better. If you don't like me opening up the Children's Hospital, then you go do something better. Yeah, but how do you think it's affecting? Because I can see the clearer.

I don't think he cares. And, by the way, I don't know. He doesn't care, but he's saying, I'm going on offense. He's combing out his hair. He cut his hair now. He's like, Jay-Z doesn't care? He has to care. You want me to tell you why?

Okay, tell me why? Because when you could walk into the NFL offices and you just met with Colin Kaepernick and you basically say, hey, listen. He didn't snake him. Okay, well, you know, his wife, vexed there for, and, you know, I was there. You were there. I was there.

Okay. All right. You didn't see the video. I'm in the room. Desiree. Come on in. It's public. I was in the room. Yeah, but I'm pretty, other conversations happened before that. I was around, I was around for a lot of conversations. That were private? Yes, even some private ones.

So you work for them then? No. How do you? It's not like you're saying, hey. You do know. He's around for the private conversations, not only the ones that I'm in for the media. Okay. Me and Nessa and Colin were like this at one point.

Okay, so it's there for. All I'm simply saying is... You can't DJ Cal at this one. You got to pick it. I'm saying... They're very... They've been vocal this week, too. Yes.

And if you asked me, Jay-Z didn't snick them. That's my personal. So they're idiots. What? Who said that? Well, they feel the exact opposite. So it's either they... Listen.

They didn't do so... There's no way nobody's that fault. Everybody can have a perspective. And when you're dealing with a lot of different personalities and a lot of different people and everybody's seeing things different ways, there's a lot of different perspectives. from my POV in that situation,

he didn't get snaked at all in no way, shape, or form. Okay. And I don't even want to get into that because this isn't a conversation about Colin. Because regardless of how me and Colin are now, I have always had much respect for Colin. If I've ever said I love you,

like I've said, Vanessa, I'm going to always love you. That's just me personally. Regardless of how people may feel about me, I'm going to always carry that love and have that respect. But if you ask me... She probably here right than she wanted me. Oh, 100%. He hated Rock Nation, man.

What are we talking about? She hated Rock Nation, men. But when those calls were happening, like, yo, we got to get Colin a tryout. We got, oh, you. I'll give you this. I'll give you this. I'll give you this.

Yo, all right, y'all doing this deal. Yo, Colin got to get a trial. Go watch the interview where it's me, Roger Goodell, J.Z. I'm the one in the office. And we can even probably put that in this video. I'm the one in the office saying, yo, all of this shit is cool with the best PR for the NFL right now

would be to make sure Colin Kaepinich gets the job. Do you want people to stop at the job? No, I don't want people to stop protesting at all. Neel and, I know we're stuck on it because it's a real thing, but it's a form of protest. I support protests across the board. We need to bring light to the issue. I agree with that.

What? Can Colin Kaepernet can't get a job? Yeah, and he can sign him right down. I think the biggest issue people have is they want to know how you could partner with a league on social justice when Colin Kaepernick, who bought it to the attention of the masses by peacefully protesting

against social justice is still out of a job. Can Kyle and Kaepernick get a job? I'm no one pressing the line on Roger Goodell and Jay-Z put those questions. You were just saying it with no action behind it, knowing that, what can I do? I'm just in the room as a media personality. Well, put it like that.

Oh, okay. You want to know the action behind it? Y'all got to make sure Colin Kaepernick gets back in the lead. All right, we're going to get Colin a tryout. Do we forget Rock Nation got Colin Kaepernick at trial? Do we forget that? It was public. Everybody knew about it.

It was big news. A hour before, Colin decides to go to a whole other field, like an hour and a half away and hold the private tryout and left all of these NFL representatives from these different teams at the field where the actual trial was supposed to be. Let me tell you the criticism that I agree with. there. And you made some points and even brought some stuff up. Maybe I'll think about it a little differently.

But what I won't think about different are you allowed to? Would a Drake chain on in a stake? Are you allowed to say anything positive about Rock Nation? Well, why would Drake have a problem around Nation? I don't know. You're the one keep saying that. You're the first person to tell me that. You're telling me that Jay

went on stage to respond to him when you never know what he meant when he said the jig is up. You got to stop. But here's the point. Here's the point. Here's the point. I hear what you're saying, but this this is the thing that rock nation has the reputation of and i can name you 50 different ways and 50 different people who feel like this and if everybody keeps saying you don't leave charlemagne your crib he he'll steal something and you hear from like five to 10 people maybe you want to

keep a camera in that room you might then again might be stealing what jaysie and rott nation did that i think hollin felt a way about and of course his wife is that there was a movement started and it was centered around this individual. You came in, used this cultural currency, and you co-opted the movement for your own personal gain and acted like, oh, okay, just give them a tryout. Like, that was always about. And so you're throwing some crumbs

while you really, that deal that Jay got is the reason we're having all, so many different discussions. But what you just said isn't true, because the movement wasn't centered around Colin Kaepernick not having a job in the league. And that's something that Jay-Z said in that meeting. The movement, when Colin Kaepernick took a knee,

it was to protest against, against injustice that was happening. And Jay-Z came in and co-opted and said, we're beyond kneeling. So we're done with that. But wouldn't you say, in a way, Colin might have co-opted his own movement? And the reason I say that is because

as soon as he was no longer in the NFL and he got blackballed from the NFL, it became about him not having a job. Could you agree on that? I agree with that. So don't you think in a way he might have co-opted his own movement? Yeah, but isn't it snakish that you take over? Like, if I got a plight, like, yo, they're not giving people with OVO change this opportunity.

And then a nigga comes in, takes over my movement and reaps all the benefits and then try to throw me some crumbs. I should be happy for that, nigga? No. But how did Jay reap the benefits? Colin didn't want it. First of all, Colin did take a settlement, right? Colin did take a settlement. How do you read the benefits?

He signed a deal with the NFL. And also, it was rumored that he was going to do with Colin. It was rumored that Jay was supposed to go get an NFL team. But what they got to do with Colin? I think we all forget. Jay came in to squash black people concerns for his own benefit and it acted like this was some shit that was for the progression. I don't even like speaking for other people.

Because contrary to your popular belief, I don't work for Rock Nation. But based off what I saw in that meeting, in that room, there was two things happening at the same time that people forget about. Remember, Jay-Z was the person who told Travis Scott, man, you shouldn't perform at the Super Bowl because you're not a co-headliner. You had the biggest year in music. period of any artist. You should be headlining that stage.

He didn't like the way the NFL was treating black performers, hip-hop performers in regards to halftime shows. And the only way he could have taken it over was basically by pushing Colin Kaepernan out of the way. But what does Colin have to do it that side of? Hold on. Hold on. But what does Colin have to do with what I just spoke about?

What? If Jay-Z had a problem with the way the Super Bowl was conducting his halftime show. He would have never signed that deal without Colin. They needed it. How? Your Sharma, are you serious right now? Yes, I am. You think that Jay-Z would have signed the half-time...

You need to go back and actually watch the... Listen, what you said? They hold him a dead of gratitude. There was never going to give him a team. They gave him that bullshit. Before you... It was not bullshit, but it's like the half-time... You need to go watch the hour-long conversation that we had in that.

Why didn't they try to deal before that? Listen, they were. They were. That's what I'm trying to get you to understand. They were already working towards that. Jay-Z was saying how Roger Goodell was asking him to do X, Y, Z, and Rodney, Jay told me this is about me performing, nah, dead that.

That's not what I want to do. He was trying to make it a better situation for artists that were black and brown, period. And he did that over the last five years. The whole injustice piece, that was something completely, completely, completely different. If you sit here with me. Matter of fact, it's two different initiatives.

Inspired change is the social justice piece. If you sit here and I remember Papa Johns and all these sponsors, they were so upset that people were kneeling, they were backing away from the NFL. They were pretty much about to hemorrhage viewers and cash. They needed to get black people on board. Remember, the niggas was saying that was not watching,

but they still betting on fantasy sports. We all seen it. Jay came in for a reason and the NFL owed him. People did not stop watching football, bro. And you do know in that meeting, you do know in that meeting Jay Z said verbatim, because I said it. This always gets edited out whenever they talk about

the Jay Z says we're past kneeling. I go, so you want them to stop the protest? And he goes, no, I don't want them to stop the protest. I want them to do whatever you feel like it is you need to do. But this is what I feel like I need to do. This is my action item. He said, whatever your action item is. He got a cultural equity to tell everybody we're past kneeling.

And they're giving us a token gift that we could use it symbolically of how much they understand our plight. So he gets this gift. Colin gets whatever. And basically co-ops the movement. And that's why he's hated. That's a perspective. And by the way, that's only one thing.

I don't agree with that perspective, but that's the perspective. Okay, and that's only one thing. If we go to Megastallion, same situation. What's the Megastrian situation? 15-01, they signed her. Okay? She's on Warner at the time. They literally accused Rock Nation of having torturous interference.

I don't know. Nothing about that. I'm just trying to tell you a pattern of how Rock Nation has moved. Bobby Smurter is online saying the same thing, right? Well, can I say something? From my perspective? How come everybody has stories? that are matching,

there's a pattern. Can I say some things? This is why I fuck with Rock Nation, because I've seen how they treat. This is the part they're going to put in the new employee orientation. People that can't do anything for them. I've seen the exact opposite of a lot of the things. Frank Lucas used to get back to the hood too.

I've seen a, I don't know, what are you talking about? You're compared to a drug dealer to a legal black and brown operation? No, no, no, because you're saying that because, they have done good things for people who are not fortunate that mean they're overall good. I'm naming you specific things. Yes, and I can name you specific things

that I've seen them do for people. So if I kill three niggas and I do a turkey giveaway in school. Why is it killing? This is business. First of all, I'm telling you the bad thing that is there is business. There are no permanent friends on enemies when it comes to business.

And in business, and you're going to learn this as you continue to do business, there's going to be times where people just are not going to be happy. That's just the way this shit goes. If you've been doing business for it, tell us a little, Don't say nothing for a second.

If you've been doing business for as long as they've been doing business, at that level, it is impossible to have a perfect score. You can't point to any businessman, businesswoman on this planet that has a perfect score. There's always going to be somebody that feels like, oh, I got sliding, oh, this didn't go right for me. That's just the way shit goes. You're missing the majority. The majority of the media narrative, if you think this is just the normal amount of dissenters that are saying, oh, I felt I got screwed over.

If you ask, if you do a poll, you should do it on the breakfast club. You should do a poll about what is their consensus when they hear Rock Nation. To who? Who am I asking this to? The general public. What I'm saying is that. It's going to be 140,000 of us at Yankee Stadium this weekend throwing up the rock sign. That's music.

What you mean? No, that's the artist. We're there in celebration of Sean Carter, Jayzee. I like his music. We're talking about Jayzie and the movie. that are not music. Of course people like his music. Okay. Like, we're not gonna have that. That's a stupid conversation I had. So let me ask a question. What do you think? If you ask 21 Savage about Jay-Z, what do you think he'll say?

I don't know. I should ask me about myself. What you mean? He helped, he helped him with his immigration case. If you asked Meek Mill about Jay Z, what do you think he's gonna say? Maybe now would say something good, but I was hearing before, maybe not so much. Well, that's crazy to me. That if that, that-in-self rap, he said, Meek could, he said, I could never dis meek. I freed that nigga from a whole bit. And he's right. He's right. He's right. but why would even wrap that if there was nothing there? He said me and me could never be. Well, if there was nothing there, why?

My point is you should just ask, you should ask people. Like, listen, I can. I'm asked enough because I named like three people and you're like, no, I don't know, I don't hear about it. I'm a call Bobby Schwery right now. Let me explain. Oh, you don't want to hear from Bobby. No, because I don't care.

Like, that's his perspective. I can't tell him he's wrong. You understand what I'm saying? Like, that was his experience. There's no split consensus on anything else in hip-hop. If you asked Rihanna about Jayzee and Rock Nation, what would she say? Ask me about Jay Zian and Rock Nation.

I can tell you work with them. That's the thing. It's news to me. We have an initiative, and I saw you, if people's posting this, we have an initiative called the United Justice Coalition, right? That was taken completely out of context, too. The United Justice Coalition is a community initiative. So it's all of these different organizations, social justice initiatives, mental wealth

initiatives, mental wealth organizations who come together. There's a bunch of them. And we do things for the community. Like, somebody can get on the email right now and say, yo, There's a jail in Mississippi right now that has terrible conditions. The inmates are complaining. We need to get somebody on that. Or, you know, hey, there was a shooting in Mississippi.

You know, the police killed, you know, this young black man. We need to send some activists, you know, over there. Like that's the type of organization that is. And every year, for the last four or five years, we do a big summit in New York called the United Justice Coalition. Ask me how much I get paid for that. And for every good story like that. But no, ask me how much I get paid for that.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what you're right. Zero dollars. Do you own part of that, that, um, that? There's not, it's a nonprofit. It's nothing. No. Okay, do you write over your taxes? No.

No, there's nothing to write off. I'm a part of the UJC. I'm sure somebody might write it off on their taxes, but it's not me. The point of what I'm trying to say is that. The narrative around, and I think this is why they think they think we've created it. I don't think it's awesome. No, I don't agree that. I don't agree with that.

Again, we, we, we're not. You could go back to more stuff. Why is Nikki going up on him? Nikki felt like he did some unethical shit business-wise when he came a title. Nicky goes in on everybody. And Nikki still got paid from what I saw. Like, so Nikki goes at everybody

just like how she's going at Jay-Z? Yes. I think it's a little bit different. What? What are we talking about right now? No, she goes at him. No, Nikki goes crazy on everybody. But once again, I don't even want to get into this conversation

because I don't know all of their... You don't think that title move? Listen, listen, I don't know all of their business dealings. I can't sit here and talk to you. But you just told me about the business deal where you're like, no, donate your time. What about the business deal where, okay, okay. That's me.

My perspective. I can't. But you also said if I asked Rihanna and these other people who I've never talked to. Because I'm looking at individuals that I've seen them help in tremendous, tremendous ways. On that's title stage, you know, Nick Kinnonaj is there. And she's blatantly saying, hey, she's saying what I've always said. Yeah. Jay Z sold the idea to the culture that we're going to do some fool-boo shit when it comes to

streaming services for the artist by the artist he basically then sold the company and became a a border um he's on the board that was the plan that's the plan the whole time when it comes to business if i if me and you launch a company right now at some point those artists supported it not for that yeah but at some point we're going to come together we're going to get a bunch of subscribers to come to this company and we're going to sell it for a shitload of money we're going to split the money up and keep it moving. That's business. Okay. And while I agree with that, you can't blame people for,

I think even with the casino thing. You know, I think that casino thing don't work. People know Jay full of shit. Anything Jay... I don't know why you have this hard on. No, I'm being honest. It's Craig. You're smart, though. You're smart, though. You don't think his reputation is in dirt right now.

I don't hate Drake the way you hate Jayzie. Well... I only critique the music and his clothes. Drake sent you balls and shout out. you're out on a diss song. Jay Z and his people got me in court. Federal court. I'm going to say something else Drake did

that you should have done. Who gave Drake a heads-up about the reference tracks? What heads-up did I have the idea of him? No, no, no, no. Who gave Drake a heads-up about the reference tracks? Ten years ago.

You heard you did that, yeah. Everybody thought me and Drake had such crazy beat, but me being a human, right? I'm like, I don't want to destroy this man's, I don't hate this man like that. So I called my homegirl, Jazz Fly,

who's no longer with us, God bless the dead, not even knowing she got a relationship with Drake, just talking to her about the situation. I said, you know what? When we finished talking, I said, I'm going to call Jay Prince and just let Jay Prince be like, no, somebody sent me these reference tracks, blah, blah, blah.

You think when I sent Drake, Jay Prince to reference tracks, Jay Prince didn't give a fuck what they came from? He was just like, yo, I got these reference tracks. This is what they're trying to do to my man. Hey, Drake, now you got the heads up. Figure it out. So Drake went on offense and got in front of whatever the narrative was going to be.

So if anything, it sounds like you're taking credit for Drake, like, responding as he should and body Neek Mill. Did you see Mick? Since he recently put that, he said that academics is a reason streams went down. Nick, it's you! Can I say something? You're going to make me buy bottles for Shalerman? How do you think I even got on that song? Okay.

All right. So good. Kudos. But what I'm saying is that. You should have followed his lead. Follow whose lead? You should have followed your man, your idol. No, no, no, no, no.

You should have followed your idol's lead. And when Charlemagne gave you a heads up, instead of saying, you know what, let's go on the offense against Charlemagne, for what reason I don't know. Let me just get in front of these narratives. It's me and Rock Nation. We've been in for a minute.

Go ahead. I told you this on the phone. You know what you should have said? Those my people over there, you my man's, yo, listen, I'm just get out the way. Instead, you're playing defense. No, you know what I said? Those my people, I'm going to get you a conversation.

with it. Charlie, you probably had the... Did you talk to them? What if... Maybe. What did they say? Maybe I didn't. Maybe I did.

Maybe I did. To be honest with you... Shut. Hold on. What do they say about? Here's the thing. What do they say? No, I'm going to tell you the truth.

I'm going to tell you the truth. I'm going to say the truth. I didn't even get a chance to. You know why I didn't get a chance to? Because your man immediately started jumping on me the very next fucking day. Okay, so by that point, I'm like, well, what the fuck? Now they're coming at me?

So why would I then... pick up the phone and use my cachet to be like, yo, I don't be honest. I think they were told you to get the fuck out of there. They were a laptop phone hung up. We don't know. I don't think so. They spent over half a million trying to get at me.

They're not going to be like, oh, Charlotte said like, let's holly it. Who wants to spend a half a million on a person? Okay, so let me ask you. So when you... But by the problem out, you didn't even give me a chance is what I'm telling you. All right, but I'm asking you, when you've had the conversation or any conversation related to any of this with them. And don't gaslight me like, like, nah, I never talk to them.

You're not going to like what I said. You're not going to like what I got to say. So when you talk to Jayze and you talk to Desire Perez. Jayze has never mentioned you. What made you think I talk to Jay? Like, I don't. That's the craziest thing about all of this. You know, you literally said, I'm going to call all the way to the very top.

Who's at the very top? That could have been Des. Okay. When you talk to Des, then, all right. When you talk to, like. Des is busy. Dese is thinking. When I tell you, she's not thinking about this type of shit.

I'm just telling you, bro. the deposition five hours in, they said, said this. That was three years ago when her artist was in duress. She just sued. She just actually asked for quitter accounts that's talking about her and her daughter case to be to be investigating the polls. Yes. You're not making no sense right now.

No, no, no. You're talking about a personal issue between her and her daughter. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You said this person, we're talking about Desiree Perez, the CEO of Rock Nation. You said, she's so busy. she wouldn't care to have these conversations or to even be thinking about whatever. I'm telling you.

You just said, and by the way, I don't know anything about this. You just said her and her. I got you, Charlotte. You said her and her seat on Charlotte. Hold on you, I got you, you said her and her daughter. That's different than her and DJ academics.

Act, I'm telling you right now, respectfully, you're leading with a lot of ego. Charlotte. And if I'm wrong, Charlotte. Listen, if I'm wrong, I'll be wrong in the future. Right now, I feel like you're leading with a lot of eagles. I'm not playing no defense.

You're playing defense for these people because you're acting like they're above the fray. They're not. They're wilding in the month. They just play a different game where they're an invisible hand. You're saying I'm playing defense. When I called you privately to tell you something about you, listen, then the very next day...

Trubby, you're playing defense because I'm telling you who's coming from. You're saying, no, no, no, no. You got to stop saying that. And I want... This is the part I want people to actually see. I called you to give you a heads up on something. You respond by having your guy start attacking me. So I start attacking your guy.

I didn't tell me. That's nothing to do with no Rock Nation. That's me. I told you on the phone. This, I believe, is coming from Rock Nation. What is coming from Rock Nation? Everything. What is everything?

I didn't know nothing about none of this shit. I told you like five different things. I said, hey, they tried to bring me to that position. Hey. You told me that. I said they tried to like in a roundabout way old. You didn't know George when I first bought George up to you. When I sent you the pictures that I sent you.

That's Grand Wizard. No, his name is George Wynn. When I sent you those pictures of George, you said, who is this? Yeah, I didn't. And I said, they said, this is Grand Wizard Chadnigger. This is George Winn who runs academics TV. You was like, damn, I thought he was skinny. It's not like we don't hung out and went on vacation.

Now you're, now you're not. No, that's my line. No, that's my man. You didn't act like that was your man's when I first bought him up. No, I said, you showed me a picture. I said, I didn't know that's how he looks at this phone. No, you said, he's fat? I got the text.

You said, who is this? No, no, no, no. Read it. You said, who is this? And then you said, that's grand words. I said, he's fat? That's all I said. Hold on.

You see if I can find it. Shull, I ain't going to lie. What I realize is that Rot Nation got to get a little bit better with the narratives because even the divide and conquer shit. I don't know. But that's my point. There is none. I don't feel like looking for them texts.

that shit is really pointless. This isn't about Rock Nation, and I wish you would stop saying that because, let's talk about us. If I'm telling you that I know where it's coming from, you're playing defense by saying it's not coming in it. If Rock Nation is coming at you, I don't have nothing to do with that.

Okay, and that's what I actually respectfully to step to the side that we're going to focus on Desiree and Jay Z. I'm not going to do that. Because now with granted him, I'd be like, of course take the gloves off with them too. No. Like, we don't want to get that Sholamay. No, Sholamay.

Get him out of here. Why did the gloves come off from me to begin with? Because in the way of how you deliver the information You want to frame it like it was a heads up It was more of a Yo, the way to neutralize these guys is to get act away from me By saying, oh That's what a guilty person would think

Nick, you told me the dude is stealing from me You have no proof of it I never said he was stealing from you I saw you say that on the screen I'm like, why I thought he was stealing from you? Charlie you said he took $4 million from me You literally told me this How would he take $4 million from you

That's what I was saying But that's when he was bullshit. I never said he took $4 million from me. Charlotte, you said he got pressed. Oh, and you said, act. And he told investigated that he gets the margin orders from me. And you said, act. Yeah, I seen the finances.

Yo, he's getting paid a lot more than you. Yo, I think he's. By the way, I was wrong about that. Remember the shit I showed you earlier? The shit I showed you that with all the shit that you get paid to do? Yeah. Yes, you make more than him. It's music promotion.

Yeah. But we got to be clear because, like, when we allude to it, so what you showed me, and you can put it on camera. Like, I don't like it when, you see, this is another thing. That's why I brought this conversation public. I don't like it when people are acting like they got some privileged information. Number one, if I brought up your breakfast club or a Netflix contract or whatever, and I start, like, putting it online or whatever, you might be like, damn, you kind of invade my project. So here's my thing. I get what you.

I get what you saying. I get what you saying. I'm supposed to that we could talk about because of the first person who said an actual thing to Jeremy dude, I body him. We haven't heard from him since because he's lying. I get what you saying, but I never wanted any of this to be public. I called you. And I'm going to go back to what I said earlier.

If I'm working with Rock Nation, you call me with the intent for me to step away from George that basically I would deactivate him and I'm like, that's my man's. No, because I said George, I said Carson McCoy, Alex Chocho, who else. I don't know Alex O's. I don't know any of these people. Well, George. I'm just telling you the information that I was told. And I told you I said, and they said the crypto accounts were flagged.

You also, you said, how much do you trust George? I'm like. Valid question. Yeah, acting like, number one, someone is doing something illegal. Number two, you're acting like this guy is doing something like maybe stealing that I need to watch out for. I didn't say nobody was stealing. What would he be stealing? You literally said four million dollars.

And I knew that was cap already. What would he be stealing? That's why you kept saying the crypto stuff. It was like, yeah, like... I got to go back and look at the information. Nah, Charlotte's tried to get me to turn on grand. That's what happened. I don't remember nothing about no phone.

You literally said, ah, he, um, you said something, something flagging. And you were like, yo, there's four million dollars. You said four million dollars. And you're like, if you're academics and he's running an academic TV, and he's getting paid way more than you, he might be stealing from you. I didn't say nothing about stealing. No. I know. I told you that that they said the crypto accounts were flagged and there was millions of dollars moved over the last few months.

Whoever sent the information? Who's whoever? I don't know. Got to talk to Lauren. By the way, you didn't give me a chance. I want you. This is crazy. You just said, but you literally just said the same thing. That's your crypto. Me saying who is like, I can say the same. I see what I got the out chain on. If I say who you're like, oh, my God. I can say the same thing to you. You can't tell me who gave you certain. No, I'll tell you any. No, you won't. I asked you, I asked you over the past week, they said all of these different sources were coming,

even though, by the way, some of that shit was hilarious. You literally said, only no one. No, no, because there's a third party that, I don't know who that. But I would get, hold on. If you asked me,

if you ask me, I would literally show you. I'm not the type of, I want to give you, I don't give half-ass warning. If I'm going to be like, yo, chat, I forgot that. I forgot that. Shaw didn't even tell me this on the phone.

he sent me in text. I forgot. I got it right here. Like, bro, look. Charlemagne to God, nigga the fuck. Like, bro, you know, you know big guy can't lie about nothing. Look, look what he says. And George makes more, more, more, wait, hold on. I said, yo, Grant, why you ain't tell me I sent this to you? Because you know I sent this to you.

And George makes more, way more than you, by the way. Watch those dudes. I said, I had no clue what he's getting paid. How much they say. So I'm trying to say. So I'm asking, John, wait. How much you hear? He says it doesn't say, hold on, I want to show you the whole thing. I don't give a fuck. It doesn't say, I'll just read it.

I just ask, doesn't say they, they just sent an exact number for you. For George, it says millions. And I said, what number they said for me? He said it was, I don't go to fuck. It's like his 400,000, right? And it's like, but he then said something. It was a combo, music media, and something. some political stuff, but I ain't see no true social stuff.

Okay? It was like an attorney general, some rumble stuff, some da-da-da-da that they paid to Livingston Island. And, and, um, he said, when I get back on Tuesday, I'll get it. I say, I got to see this because like, yo, come on. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Uh, then I said, well, um, Grand said he got the three pictures that, because he sent me three pictures.

I'm going to shout the pictures. I said, Grant said he got the three pictures from Alex. before. I said this shit sound like some Epstein files. Like somebody just got some files. He said, yo, you should hit Alex too. He said, I just spoke to him too because I had questions. So I don't know. Like, whatever they got going on there

is like, yeah. That's a half-ass morning. That's a half-ass one. I gave you three names, told you what they were alleged to have done. That's everything you need to know. Okay. But when you're, that's not even what I was really even caring about. But you're still missing my point. And I don't want you to miss my point.

I don't want nobody to miss my point. I called you, gave you some private information. I don't think that was in good faith. Because the way I call you, I call you differently. You call me the same exact way. Nick, I call you. I read the email. I sent you the email.

Yo, this is who's trying to do with you, bro. Look out. No, you didn't. You called me and you said, hey, this is the person, boom. But you knew who the person was. So that's different. No. I knew what the person was.

That time when I told you, I didn't know who the person was. When I said their name, you knew the person was. And then when you explained it, I understood. Oh, I seen the relation there. Okay. But I said, you do it. You do what you got to do.

But that shit got no, it has no place on my platforms. I got none of the talk about with it. I gave you every info I could have. And I gave you everything I had. And guess what, act? I could have got more if you didn't seek your dog on me. If you didn't stick your motherfucking Australian dog on me, I'm probably going to got you.

No, it's not. This is a manipulation you do right. I'm not. And I want to, this is what I really want us to stop doing. Because, I don't know. No, no, listen. If porn is with a sit down, all right, if you really were, like, you would have still had a conversation with Desiree then and be like, hey, listen, you know, there's a lot of other people. Because I think you're getting caught in a crossfire when your Desire's Australia lap.

I would have told Desiree the same thing I tell everybody about it. So you would have still had that conversation. You still never did. Listen, I would have told him the same thing. I would have told her the same thing I always tell everybody when it comes to you. I think you should sit down and have a conversation with academics. Act ain't like that. The act you all see online that gets drunk off the liquor and wild,

and that's a lot of that is performative. Have a conversation with it. And let's see if we can squash some shit. Like, that's what I, and by the way, that's what I told you. I want you to have the conversation and tell me what she says. I mean, it's public. She's going to see it. Well, by the way.

You said you can make the call. I made the call. You went wilding. I want you. I want you. I want you to hear. You've been wild. It's going to be hard to make that call now.

The last few weeks, you've been wild on them. So now you're acknowledging this issue. From urine. Are you on drugs? Are you on fucking go-taker? Of course, Alex. On urine. You're the one.

All of this is coming from you. This is what they sent you to do is just gas light. Oh, my God. Act, stop. Tell them, I told you, I'm giving you exact instances. And you're a gaslight. George got six lawsuits right now that he's named it. Are any of you from Rock Nation?

What are those lawsuits about? Just crypto shit and all of this shit that I've been reading. It's about steak. Okay. But are any of them from Rock Nation? Okay. No, just answer the question. Are any of them from Rock Nation?

But they're fun. That's your, you think that. You have no proof of that. If you got proof, I'll shut the fuck up. That's all you got to do. Show me proof and I will promise you. Not only will I shut the fuck up, I'll be like, damn, that's what they're doing that?

Okay, so when they fund a legal campaign to have me sit in the deposition, they try to get drinks and sit in depositions. And they're asking, hold on, no, no. Yes, I can't. Because they can't pay it to. No, no, yes, because they tried any which way to get me in a depot. I told you. Like, you're just not hearing because you're running off whatever they have programmed you with, which is. So what you're, okay, what you're saying to me is they use whatever the defamation situation with Megan was to bring them in here to ask you questions about this other.

Yes. They wanted to get, they wanted to get subpoenas for me. Drake, they got one for Drake. They just couldn't find Drake to serve him. So they wanted to get me in a deposition. We got them to do with that Malagro defamation case. But they got a subpoena for me, Drake. I don't think they did one for Nikki.

They got one for Aiden Ross. None of, Aiden Ross didn't even know the girl getting sued. He still had to get, he still had to do a deposition. Yes. Okay. that was the isolated every educated lawyer I consulted with the best lawyers

about the whole situation because we were anticipating a few other steps being taken and they said this is very typical of when someone is preparing something you start with the smallest fish on a totem pole that would be Malagro Cooper

I just told you that earlier and you said where the fuck I get that I just said that they go after the No so in civil court this is how it goes This is an efficient ex-picion. I'm going to tell you. I want a court. Pull at this.

You don't sue Jay-Z and then have to battle J-Z lawyers to ask a judge to subpoena J-Z to give you something. You know who you sue? The broke nigger. And you say J-Z is a part of this case. And you have them give a third-party subpoena without suing J-Z.

You sue J-Z. You're going to battle his attorneys all day. You sue a nigga with money. You're battling his attorneys all day. So you sue the person that is broke that they're not going to oppose shit because they don't, their lawyers barely could even defend them. You get a bunch of subpoenas and now you just got to serve them. Do you get what I'm saying?

You happen to catch up with act. You serve one to act. They go play, they brought like some banjo or some band outside of Ada Ross's house finally served him. They were trying to catch up with Drake. None of us. Drake don't know the girl. Milagro, no disrespect Milagro.

He don't know her or know her like that. Like, you know, I don't disrespect her. Like, he never talked to her. Aiden don't know who she was. Aidan called me like, who the fuck is this person? But that was a method to get subpoenas to get people in depositions to ask them any. The thing with a deposition, you could ask anything. Anything.

The small. And the person's under oath. If it's first, they go get the bitch. Only when the person either refuses to answer, that's when a judge comes in. So you have a blanket shot for seven hours to ask somebody anything. That was the strategy. That's why I'm saying these lawsuits, they're funded. Big one.

I just told you that about 30, 40 minutes ago. Well, you're talking about criminally. What I'm saying is that they wouldn't criminal. Yeah. The point was in a civil suit, you just need to get somebody under oath. Right. Their way to get me under oath was to try to convince a judge, which they did. And then they convinced another judge, which is a Jersey judge, to say, hey, this guy has material evidence for this case that we have against this blogger for defamation. When I was in the deposition, I got the

whole thing recorded. I got the, we got the transcript. The judge read the transcript. I'm telling you, the judge, his name is Judge Day. He was out there in Trenton. You will hear him on the say, why are you having a deposition with Livingston Allen and the majority of your questions revolve around Aubrey Graham, Nikki Minaj, and also around state? Are those people connected? This is on record, Charlottomey. Like, if I'm saying this, like, and you just don't want to believe it, you can go look at it. I'm not simply, I'm not sitting here saying that it's not true. I'm just sitting here saying, what the fuck that got to do with you? me. I called you to give you a heads up about something. You stick your dog on me and now

you're using me to attack Rock Nation? That shit don't make no sense. No, Charlotte, man, you came and playing defense. Me, Blit got a podcast. Go ahead, Bleet. That's a real Rock Nation. Bleak don't got no voice. Respectfully. By the way, and that's the problem with Rock Nation now. And I'm not, by the way, anytime I speak on George, I am not speaking for Rock Nation. I'm speaking for me because George was coming at me. Have you ever mentioned, have you ever heard me mentioned George Wynn prior to him shooting at me. Okay. By the way, I just want to say this.

I think Rock Nation knows at this point whether I don't think, I think it's by chance. They feel that the majority of the narratives that kind of come up online are either influence or, you know, put out by platforms associated with me. And I think they feel helpless. There's a lot of Rock Nation adjacent people. They can't get one narrative to be in the favor. I'm going to be honest with you. Y'all don't care too much about the court of public opinion.

And I've told you this before. I remember having this conversation with you. They sued a chick for defamation and spent $2 million and got $75,000. Who cares more than that? If you're defaming me. So you'll spend $2 million against $75,000? I don't think it's about the money in a situation like that. No, no, but you say we care too much about.

It's not about the money. I'm defeating your point. You said, we care too much about the court of public opinion. Yes, you do. But if I'm making the same argument that the people I'm talking about care as much to spend. Can I finish my point? Hundreds of thousands in PI. Yes.

Millions of dollars in lawsuits. Can I finish more? And they're getting a fractional piece back. Who cares more than that? Let me finish my point. Court of public opinion. I'm going to use your boy as an example. Court of public opinion, kicked your boy in the ass for two years.

You go on social media. Who's my boy? Drake. You go on social media for two years. If you're an idiot, you're looking at all of this shit and you're like, damn, you know, nobody like Drake no more. Damn, don't nobody fuck with Drake no more.

Damn, man. It really might be old for Drake. That's stupid. Every time he put out a song, it charts. Then he finally comes out with an official album, a real album, Iceman, and it's number one for however many weeks. That's because that shit online really does not matter. It's just noise at the end of the day.

If you want to sit here and believe that Drake having this moment with Iceman was just, oh, nothing matters since then, look at the back of his chain. This is exactly, if you think he doesn't even think that. Because that was he was in a fight for his life. Do you know what? Perception matters, especially for artists. You know what, you know what Charlemagne said over and over after the battle? The person that made this worse was Drake.

Not the battle itself. It's the way he handled everything after the fact. Keep putting our music. That's it. He's Drake. Charlie, he did and everybody moved the goalpost. Yo, he need to take a break. How?

I heard you say it. Yo, he need to take a break. I did think he needed to take a break musically. Take a break, but I was saying that before the battle. I was saying that before the battle. The reality is that the atmosphere of hatred had to be addressed, and I think it did. Does the hate impact you? I'm media, so hate a love.

I'm a win. You lost a lot of weight. Did you lose weight because people were calling you fat fuck on social media? No, no, I'm a healthy now. But no, okay, so that's my point. Yeah. When people are online with all of this. You can either let it impact you or not.

If it don't, if it don't fuck with your bottom line, who's your hairs. When Meek says, when Meek says, 100% do believe the narrative that when me and him weren't going to, Meek at one point thought I was just some, he said, yo, you just a nigg. I remember this verbatim. He says, I said, nigga, you only got five million. You said, I got bitches with more followers on Instagram. From that moment, I said, I'm going to show you what happens when you go against the biggest media personality. Meek is a great example.

And if you ask Meek, nothing in his favor happened from then. And if you don't think the narrative mattered, well, let's see what happens with Jason. Meek is a great example. And let me tell you why. I made a comment a couple of months ago, and we were on brilliant idiots. And I said, I feel like Meek hasn't been the same after the battle. Those comments were inaccurate. And the reason I said what I said was because of what you're talking about right now,

public perception, perspective, online. it was like Meek Mill that became a joke. Every time, even now to this day, when Meek tweets some crazy shit, they fucking them about Twitter fingers. But did it? Because right after the battle, he had number one albums. Right after the battle, he was still going up on the charts. He still was getting gold and platinum plaques.

I think what happens over time is sometimes people just might be off you musically. That's why being relevant musically for a long period of time should be applauded. And I'm not even going to talk about Jay because Jay been around for 30 years. Forget Jay. Let's talk about, I don't give Drake his props to Drake's. the futures, the Kendrick Lamar's, the Jay Coles, these guys that have been around 10, 15 years still can move the needle when they drop music,

they should be applauded because it's hard to keep people in tune with your music for that long. And I think that's the only issue Meek might be having right now. I disagree with you. A rapper lives like, I'm going to give you two rappers currently. Okay. Young thug and gunner.

Okay. Gunners, but not great music. it's more than music Gunna's the best example according to the internet and the streets Gunna should be done Gunna should be finished

Who's more liked right now? Goda That's what I'm trying to say This is perspective Public perception When someone's perceived better perceived cooler perceived like in a positive life

I'm looking at who's bringing in the money Who's selling the records Who shows are so out all across the country. Whose records are getting played on the radio all the time. I've always argued this point. I've always argued at this point. If Drake had dropped Iceman six months after,

niggis would have said it was trash. They said it was trashed two years later. What are you talking about? Who said Iceman was trash? Mad people. No, we got two different algorithms. No, we got two totally different algorithms. Must be.

By the way, by the way, by the way, that shit classic. No, they're not. You and your squad are saying it's classic. Wait, well, I was. You thought honestly, never mind was classic. No, I didn't say that. Yes, you did. No, I didn't say it.

You love. I've never heard you say one bad thing about Drake. That's what, Dave, that's said to you. You just got to crush you. You apologize. You got to crush your own dad, or you're getting paid. Yo, Dame, I want to tell you for all the times you've sat across this man and he had a, he had a paper plane. He bought up Dame.

Yo, he had a paper plane on his chest or he had it on his hat. I just want to tell you, Dame, I'm here to make sure you know you were vindicated you were not crazy, and he was always... But you don't believe I'm getting paid by Rodgers. No. Okay. Do you believe I'm getting paid by Drake? No.

Okay. But if a topic came up, and this is what I say about all media personality. If James of man, of course you're supposed to have... Like, if a topic comes up, you probably have more nuance that could give more thoughts to maybe what his side of him... I have reverence for him musically and I have reverence for him as a man. We've watched the evolution of a man, yeah. All right.

So that's what I think there. Now, I do think that But I also can be biased. No, no, you have mutual Yeah, I know. But now you have mutual business interests with him. And I think you've been going in that realm for a while. And that's why you're playing this-

I don't have any mutual business interest with him. We had a bid that we were trying to get for a casino in Times Square. That bid is gone. That got turned down. So currently, there's nothing that you and J business-wise are aligned with it. Nothing at all. So nothing.

So if I pop up with something on stream in a few days. Please, let me know. Show me. Nothing. Remember this. I would tell you, why would, why would me as a, he didn't tell us the last time? 48-year-old black mogul distance myself from one of the greatest moguls that we've ever seen. Nobody said.

I would love to be doing more business with Jason. No, no, I'm not shaming that aspect. I'm addressing the aspect of, okay. like put like this, there are certain other media personalities. I could tell, you know, they grew up on Jay. Jay is their guy. There's nothing wrong with it. There's going to be some baked advice.

We're all human, right? I grew up on Drake. I listened to everywhere this man has said, like, that's my goal, right? Cool. So if you ask me, Drake or Jay, I'm going to go in Drake's direction, right? I think that's normal. We're all human. I think it's when we get to the point of, because I don't think it's necessarily people getting paid,

but is your business now being supported and incentivized by their business so now you got to go run interference My business isn't doing that Like you want to know the closest other business relationship we've had Did you know what Flex said? I know you don't get along

but he had said like he said Rock Nation had offered him like some $2 million thing and it was just like that's where I think influences now hey I'm not going to pay you but I'm going to get in business with you that when I'm in business with you, you're going to be on your platform

just wildly defended me. You do realize that once again, when it came to that bid to bring a casino to Times Square, it's four different entities. Like, there's been other things that I've been offered. Like, I'll give you an example, a sports team.

When you get offered to be a part of a sports team, right, to invest, you're going to come in under somebody's group. They're not going to bring in Leonard, McKellee from Mount's Corner, see the God, work, whatever. it is. They're going to bring me in under somebody's group. That's what that was. Like, so what's the problem? And because you're affiliated Rodneyish, you came on a

there. I know. It's because it's because I felt it was just being hypocritical. See, now you're apparently the whistleblower for gambling when you yourself. I was not whistleblowing on no, no, no, no, I'm not going to let you get that off. I was not whistleblowing on gambling. I was whistleblowing on the alleged illegal things your boy George Wynn was doing. And the only reason I was doing that. You can't say steak, though. So I'm reading the article. No, I'm asking you.

So you do, so just like how you were. And by the way, all it, but to your point? Nice your question. All right. So if they're in a state casino to Times Square, would that be good? I have no idea. To your point, because it's not about the casino when you know that. It's not about, it's not about the casino.

Would you have the same opinion? It's not about. If steak was coming into, you said, Times Square. where it needs this. It's not about steak. It's not about casinos. It's not about gambling. It's about the illegal activities

that your boy is being accused of. And by the way, I don't give a fuck about none of that shit. You know why I'm bringing that up? The same reason you bring up shit on people when you got a problem with them. If somebody's shooting at you, I got some ammo to shoot back.

So when I call you, which I keep straight out. No, no, no, no, no. When I call you, academics. You call me before it happened. To say, yo, X, Y and Z, is happening, blah, blah, blah, this is what it is. You call your man to tell him,

and then you decided to stick the dog on me for whatever reason. Oh, why? No, I said, listen. Guess what? You could do whatever that you feel is within your right to respond to people doxing you where they're posting in a hatch.

That motherfucker docks is all types of people. You got to, that's another part when y'all say, you don't play a victim? That's playing. No, no, no. But here's the thing. Nobody's going to feel sorry for George winning academics TV. No, no, but. I saw this motherfucker just called This is a retarded two days ago. No, no, the sympathy that he's asking,

but he's going to post all the type of wild shit. So, again, he can't be mad when motherfuckers is flattened on him. And he needs to be, he should be lucky that all he's getting thrown at him is paper. And now, right, and now since he knows, all right, bet. So Charlotte could post me at the crib. Well, now I could post anything about Charlotte. And he's looking at me like, I know he's your man, but if you're my man, too, you can't tell me.

That's not right. That's not right. Act, that's not right because you know I didn't do that first. What? You know how this point out, went played out.

I called you, gave you a heads up, you told George, George went on the attack against me. I went on the attack against George. Now George is shook because George's like, oh my God,

don't nobody ever shoot back at me. Now he's texting my people's like, man, I told me to do that. Act told me to do that. Ali just snaked him. I told him, I said, listen, I said, how were you texting Alex?

Like, I had to tell him, I'm like, I definitely say that. I'm like, yo. Let me finish this. Act told me to do that. Yo, man, could you please tell Charlemagne not to post my picture and not to doc me? Because he's saying my name with crypto and I don't want people to run up in my house. Oh, that's the Achilles Hill.

Oh, that's what it is? Oh, so now let me find out more. So he fucked up by mentioning that. But that's people running up in his house. I don't care. To do crime. Okay, all right. As long as you put in the right context.

Because he talks crazy. Okay, and by the way, I'm glad that you said that because also, yeah, and if you didn't say nothing about me, I wouldn't say shit on him. I had that combo with him. I said, listen, yo, you know, I'm being from with rappers who's up a couple hundred million dollars. I served my house like Alcatraz. I couldn't even have kids at my house. Like, I prepare like niggis is running in every night.

And you should. And I should. So I also, I think that shit is nasty. I'm going to tell you something. I did tell them. So I told him, I told him I said, listen, you should, you should move. You got to move accordingly now. But I think that shit is nasty.

The shit I'm getting, the same way you say people hit you up and they're giving you shit about me, it's the same way about you. And I know a lot of that shit is bullshit. But guess what? Nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining. Of course. But why would I ever run with that?

I would rather do this. And the only reason I'm doing this on camera is because I don't want either one of us to get on our platforms and manipulate the conversation. We got to keep it public because I'm telling you, I don't. Because you lie. You're very entertaining when you get on that. on that to kill.

No, no, no. I see it. I'll be watching like, I did not say that thing for you at. What about about? You can't even name. You said, Deverey got me a therapist. No, I said that's what I heard. From who?

Just like how you ain't going to tell me certain sources. I would tell that name, but Desiree looking for that person. And I know for a fact, Desire looking for that person, so I won't say that name. I can't tell. I don't know my source. And, yes, it's in court documents Desire looking for her. So I would normally tell Charlemagne, but I'm not telling Charlestrian. That's Charlemagne's homegirl right there.

Like, nah. As far as Desiree know, that nigga might be dead. Or maybe move to a different country or planet. The person who's going to tell me that is going to have Desiree investing in them. I'm good. Well, they don't Desiree's that. You said that. You said that the everyday struggle thing when I told you to walk out, that's a little.

No, you did. You did. Again. And you said that I told you I'd never had any affiliation with Rock Nation. That makes no sense when you literally said on your screen yourself, apparently Charlemagne has an affiliation with Rock Nation. Desiree got him a therapist or something. He said he's going to get me a meeting with Rock Nation.

No. You said business-wise, you basically have no care for whatever we have going on. Why would we be talking about business? That makes no sense. Because if I knew you and them have mutual business interests, I'm not telling you certain shit. I'm not calling you to talk nothing about them. But why would we be on the phone?

I play this. If we're plotting against Drake, it probably ain't smart to call me to tell me the game plan. You don't think so? If you're plotting against Drake and you're like, yo, all right, I want to discuss That's how I'm going to get drink. Don't call me. So let's go back to my original point, Act. If I'm allegedly working for Rock Nation,

and Rock Nation is after you, and I know that, me calling you to give you a heads up is snaking them. How does that make sense? And I told you why your call was intended. It's not snaking them because the intent was, I'm going to be honest with you, I think Academic CD Grant and a few other pages been giving Rock Nation bell to ass.

We were talking about approval rating People look at Jay-Z like a slimy scum So why wouldn't they just sue them pages Why wouldn't they just go after them pages? Well, we're going to sue someone for their opinion? You just said that they sued some What did you say the girl they was? Yeah.

And you said that they were going after other pages So why wouldn't they just go after them? They're trying. That's why in a deposition. Show me. Okay. Okay. Go to, I'm going to send you the video file.

So I want no more you're like, nah, I never seen it. in the... You keep talking to me about one deposition. I'm talking about right now. Because to get somebody, like, even if you watch that case where they sued Milagra, suing someone with defamation is really hard.

Literally, they had to find one obscure thing she said. Her saying every day, Meg the stallion is a liar. I said in a deposition, that's an opinion. If I said Meg is ugly, if I said Meg, Meg music sucks, you can't sue me for that. If I said Desiree Perez to me is a snake, which I do think that. She can't sue me for that.

What's we're going to go to court for? I'm not saying nothing that's factually incorrect that's meant out of malice to put her brand or defame her. So I don't think if she had it. I could be completely wrong. If she had it, she would have been sued. I could be completely wrong. You sound. And here's the thing, too.

Desire ain't suing people because the same way how you could put me in front of a deposition, I could put you in deposition. That's the thing. I don't know if you guys know that. If Desire sues, she can't duck the deposition. too because part of a civil suit is you deposed up one party and you get deposed.

Listen to this shit though. Manic. If she had it, she would have been so. I could be completely wrong. You sound manic. You sound paranoid. I'm not even joking. Like, you sound manic and paranoid, bro. Like, if I'm wrong,

I promise you, I'll be the first person saying I'm wrong. Shut up. Charlotte. Charlotte, listen, the reason why you're so wrong about that is because... I might be. No, no, you're wrong about that because... Because you are very convicted about this Rock Nation is after me then. So you think Rod Nation's...

I'm not the only person saying it. Okay, fine. I'm madden. I'm madden. If so, I don't know. None of it. I'm manic. But if I am Bobby Smurter is, too. No, it's different.

Bobby Smurter had a business dealing that he didn't like... It went wrong. Yours is completely different. telling me. Bobby ain't on Instagram like, yo, they're trying to take me out. They're trying to destroy me. They won't be gone. I saw you post. I'm bringing mad security to sit down with Shaliman because Des

might have me killed. Bobby Smurter. No, acknowledge that. Ignallows that. Nobody's online saying Rock Nation wants them dead except for you. Show me. I don't think you're tapped in. I must not be. Bobby Smurter blames Rock Nation for putting them in jail.

You don't see that? You don't see that? Let me ask a question. Hold on. You're saying nobody's saying it. I didn't see that. Okay. But he's literally saying it.

He said the lawyer that was hired, Alex Spirit, do you know that guy? That's Rock Nation lawyer, I think, or Jay's lawyer. Okay. Yeah. He says, Rock Nation gave me that lawyer, which basically convinced me and forced me to take extra years in prison. Hey, Bobby Smurderden and was under investigation. Did you hear Hot Nigger?

Charlamine. No, no, no. Did you hear Hot Nigger? Yeah, but you moved to go for. No, I didn't. How many confessers were in Hot Nigger? They used against him in court. Everybody knows the public story with Bobby Schmerter.

He was supposedly turned down a four-year agreement and took seven. But I thought he did that because he was trying to, he wanted the same time as his man or some shit like that. And apparently what he's now found out, according to what he's saying is that that wasn't necessary and that lawyer snaked him. That's what I'm telling you. I don't know anything about that. But once again. But if you know nothing about it, how you defended it like this? Because I can only speak from my perspective.

Same way I do when it comes to somebody like you. There's people that say... I would not speak from my perspective. I'm manic. How would Dan speak from his perspective? How would Nicky speak from his perspective? Okay, do you think Drake is manic? I haven't heard Drake say nothing.

Okay, so, all right. So now you're back-shacketing. And I'm going to be honest with you? You just named three people who sound manic as fuck. Who? Nikki Dame and you? I sound manic with that. You're starting to sound a little manic act.

I didn't see it in person. I see it online. So online, I'm like, yo, he performed. Seeing it in person is crazy. By the way, if you can ask Alex, I said Alex, I just want to talk to Agassi if he really believed in. I'm going to be honest with you. I think this is why we're in this new media landscape because this light, gaslighting, just watch the comments. Everybody's literally watch the comments.

I'm looking down in the comments right now. They're all going to say, yo, does Charlemagne actually think that is working? We don't care if Alex Media over there is like, close on. Heck, what you're doing right now is trying to. saying is the majority of the conversation online right now. So everybody is manic then. Sure. But here's the thing. They're only saying that because you're saying it. You're the leader of the motherfuckers. So you're saying they don't have independent thought. No, they don't. The problem is, the problem is. Some of them don't get me wrong. Somebody have a majority of them.

Jay Zee and Rod Nation used to be able to affect media. I just heard about, I just, that dick around and I, Rosen Dwee, whatever. He was just like, yo, was it him or Ebum? Like, it was like, oh, you know, this thing would call me about his hair or whatever. Like, there was a way to affect media to get favorable responses. It used to work for Jay, whether it's a call, whether it's whatever. I don't get none of them called. Well, what I'm saying that now, I don't think Jay-Z really has any control over any of the places that narratives actually do start and develop from. But I also think, and this is just me, and I'm only basing this off me, I don't give a fuck.

I actually, I'm not, I mean. And by the way, I might be crazy. I actually... Every time you make a point, Sean made say, don't give a fuck, bro. Let me see what there's a red bull in there.

We like it. When I watched this week, when I watched all of these people coming with this one narrative against me for whatever reason, I was like, oh, that's lit. Do you think Jay-Z liked it last year?

I do. Even though he said in the interview, he said that pissed him off. He started his G-Q interview by saying it. He said one particular thing, and that would piss any of us off. It pissed your boy off so much that he sued people.

That would piss anybody off at you don't like you don't like when people reference you like that that would piss any of us off but we're talking overall with him no he's he said he said one thing in particular so you're saying the rest of it didn't piss him off that i don't think so i'm only going off what i saw in that interview i'm going off the same thing that you saw okay good so he said so you're in agreement that whatever grand or whoever is either doing or saying about jay and rap nation he should have no problem with. I don't think he does. And I don't know that to be true.

All right, cool, then. I don't know that to be true. But it depends what we're talking about as well. Like, if you posting a man's kids or, you know, saying a man's a pedophile or rapist, all this. That shit is going to, come on. That shit should piss some people, piss you up a little bit. What about, because I did see this on a page this week,

if they mentioned that he was included in the Epstein files. What about that? with no context and the way academics TV does it? But that article, as you mentioned, that is talking about a bunch of civil suits lack the context of actually saying, does this that even make... If you read the actual article, it makes perfect sense. And it's not accusing anybody of anything. It's just laying things up for you.

Nobody who's steak to bot music streams. That's a lie. That doesn't happen. I'm telling everybody in the world doesn't happen. That's a lie. So the context of acting like that's happening, Act Steak is a huge company. Nobody used State to bot music.

You don't know that. I'm telling you, I know. The same way I can sit here and say, I can't sit here and say, I don't know if Rock Nation is coming to do. All right. I don't think so. All right. So why don't you say the same thing about whatever they?

He just said that Rod Nation wasn't coming at me. He said to the whole interview. He said about Jay C and then files. I don't know. Because with that I can actually read and see that it's a freaking hotline number that somebody randomly called in. Okay. And the story don't make no fuck.

sense whatsoever. So, so possibly, who knows? Do you think that should be in this? And you also, and you also do know when, like, you think that should be in the Epstein file just by somebody saying, yeah, we emailed academic because we want him to promote our music. You just said you don't know stakes a big company. I agree with you. Now, how long have you known, Jayze? What about what was he doing back then? He used to be kicking it with Harvey Weinstein, didn't he? Because they had a fucking movie production company together. And there's other people that- Harvey Weinstein produced paid in full. And there's other people that used to be kicking it with Jeffrey Epstein just because he used to give them consultancy for...

You think everybody knows what everybody is into it? Okay, so that's what I'm saying. So you believe Jay didn't know about Harvey Weinstein. You said Jay what? Jay wouldn't know. Wait, hold on. Chad, hold on. Give me one second.

Am I tripping? They're telling me that the video on Charlemagne's page is longer than mine. Bro, I ain't do no fucking editing than nothing, nigga. The fuck? All the media. Nick, Alex Media sent it to me home. I got to check my other computer. Because it took me all night to upload this shit.

I was trying to drop it last night and nine. Yeah, his video is... So, one on Charlemagne page is three hours and 13 minutes. And the one on my page is smaller? And the one on my page is two hours and 42. What the fuck? Hold on, hold on.

Let me go... I'm almost... He sent me the link via Dropbox, so I'm almost... I'm gonna go check to see if it was an upload error with YouTube. Does mine cut off or some shit? Does mine cut off? The ones that said they put the investigation. Get an update on, hey, I did talk to them.

They told me this. Wait, hold on. Give me one second, John. I'm gonna keep playing. I'm gonna keep playing it, though. But I ain't, I ain't know. I ain't know there's a difference in video lens. I'm gonna keep playing it, though.

I was just doing some movie shit with... I don't think he would know that. Why would he know that? Okay, so, what, Think about Trump. Okay, what about Trump with Epstein now? What do you think about that? I have no idea.

I don't know these individuals. You see you've changed your tone. At first you were saying, let's burn it. You said, we need the FC list. Whoever is on it, it just needs to be burnt down. Now you've seen a lot of nuance. No, no, no, no. And this is that extreme way of thinking that social media does where they don't use no nuance.

What are they on the Epstein list or what is being said about them in the Epstein list? If somebody says, hey, I emailed this person because I wanted him to perform at a concert, and that's what put them in the Fteen list as opposed to this motherfucker was eating the nipples of 14-year-old girls. That's a totally different conversation. What did you think about when his...

Can you acknowledge what I just said? Is that not different? Yes, I do agree. Okay. But what I'm saying is that you seem to take a definitive stance when JZ's name is involved and in other situations that is convenient for you to keep it. No.

You're like, I just don't know. No. I read the FDN's... Steam files just like you did, and I know that he's not in there the way fucking them motherfuckers in Europe is in there, that are actually being accused of... Yeah, that's kind of odd. It's not Alex's fault. The version I have on the upload computer is

it's 3 hours and 13 minutes, which that matches Charlotte's version. All right, I'm going to upload the last 30 minutes of it. I don't know why... YouTube said it was ready. I think of this shit took all night. I've never uploaded it. They sent me 190 gigabytes. I've never had a video this big.

But he claims he uploaded, he recorded this shit in, with everything. Hold on. He claims he recorded this shit in 6K. I don't know if we can see like quality on this shit, but he said this shit was 6K. I've never,

it took me all night. They got tried to stream last night. So, all right, I'm going to have to upload, unless I could replace his video file. But we're going to switch to Charlemagne's version then. And by the way, still got to cross-check his version with our version too.

I haven't even talked to my team about it. I just like, it took me so long to put up. And Charlotte was saying, because I postponed the time from last night, I said, bro, this shit not even done uploading yet. So we were supposed to drop at 9. And I was like, you let's drop at noon. And he was like, bro, you sure? Like, for real, for real?

So I haven't even gotten the chance to cross-check it. But whatever the longer version is, that's got to be the version. I didn't know that my version is shorter. What the fuck? But I can't blame Alex because. the version that I got downloaded is um I download from the Dropbox he sent me

is, is, um, what the fuck? What the fuck is going on? The version I got downloaded is, is a full version. The whole media thing is I don't, fuck. Do I know if I could replace this video?

Maybe I could replace this video. Hmm. I'm telling everybody in the world doesn't happen. That's a lie. So, so the context of, acting like that's happening.

Act. Stake is a huge company. Nobody used Stake to bot music. You don't know that. I'm telling you, I know. The same way I can sit here and say, I can't sit here and say, I don't know if Rock Nation is coming in doing. I don't think so. All right.

So why don't you say the same thing about whatever they said about JC and then files? Like, I don't know. Because with that, I can actually read and see that it's a freaking hotline number that somebody randomly called in. And the story don't make no fucking sense whatsoever. So possibly. Who knows? Do you think that should be in this?

And you also. All right. So 220. Let's just switch to his version. Let's see the guy, 220. So it's 220. Search me about Kanye. Okay, so let's go to 220.

Damn. I'm going to have to upload it again. This shit is so big, bro. Pause. Look, quality. Oh. Why didn't they tell me 6K? It's just a 4K.

All right. Anyway, cool. I'm going to upload the rest of it, though. possibly, who knows? Do you think that should be investing? And you also do know when, like, you think that should be in the Epstein file just by somebody saying,

yeah, we emailed academics because we want him to promote our music. But you just said you don't know, stakes a big company, I agree with you. Now, how long have you known, Jayze? What was he doing back then? He used to be kicking it with Harvey Weinstein, did he?

Because they had a fucking movie production company together. And there's other people that... Harvey Weinstein produced paid in full. And there's other people that used to be kicking it with Jeffrey Epstein just because... he used to give them consultancy for all those you think you think everybody knows what everybody is into it okay so that's what i'm saying so you believe jade didn't know about rby

one's he said j what jay wouldn't know jay was just doing some movie shit with i don't think he would know that why would he know that okay so what about think about all okay what about trump what what i've seen that i have no idea i don't know these individuals you see you've changed your tone at first you were saying let's burn it you said we need to have Eapstee list, whoever is on it, it just needs to be burnt down. Now, you're seeing a lot of nuance. No, no, no, no, no. And this is that extreme way of thinking that social media does where they don't use no nuance.

What are they on the Epstein list or what is being said about them in the Fstein list? If somebody says, hey, I emailed this person because I wanted them to perform at a concert and that was that's what put them in the Fteen list as opposed to this motherfucker was eating the nipples of 14 year old girls, that's a totally different conversation. What did you think about when his boy- Can you acknowledge what I just said? Is that not different? Yes, I do agree.

Okay. But what I'm saying is that you seem to take a definitive stance when Jay-Z's name is involved and in other situations that is convenient for you to keep it. No. You're like, I just don't know. No, I read the Epstein files just like you did, and I know that he's not in there

the way the motherfuckers in Europe is in there that are actually being accused of- No, no, he's accusing some shit in there. Oh, I didn't see that. Well, yeah, it came from a random tip hotline, but he's accused. A random tip hotline. A random tip hotline. Which means we don't know if it's true.

I know that wasn't true. And by the way, I can't say that without a shadow of a doubt. But reading the story, it sounds like some complete bullshit. My personal opinion. Okay. That's fair. My personal opinion. That's fair.

What did you think when he publicly denounced having a friendship with Diddy, even after years of them being at brunches, calling each other their brothers hugging? And when he got an under fire, I thought he did a snake move. He put out a statement to his lawyer and said they were never that cool. I don't care, bro. Like, we haven't a, this is supposed to be about us. No. Why are we?

Like, this is what I mean. I feel like I'm sitting versus. I have a chair. That's the right right here and Jay right here. That's sad. You shouldn't feel like that. Like, you should pour out that shit that you came in here and that bottle with. You shouldn't feel like that.

Like, that shit is crazy to me. You're, listen. You're. Your academics. Your Charlotte, man. Your Charlotte. You got real ops that you should be concerned about. Yo, Charlotte.

Not them individual. And by way, if- Those ones- And if I'm wrong- I'm very happy with them because I could actually do a countermeasure because I could see them. If I'm wrong about this.

The worst enemy is the one that you don't see. If I'm wrong. You-you see them. You say you see them. You just told me dad is sitting right here, Jason, right here. Yeah, that you see. There you. Yes.

He knows, God. He knows that you're invisible. Are you paying for them paper plane? He knows that you're invisible. Hold on. Are you paying for these paper planes? Yes, I do. Like, I'm the same.

Or every year or every month they drop off like. No, I don't get that. I used to, like, they'll send some stuff every now and then, but they haven't in a while. Like, you want to know- That's because the narrative not working with. You want to know my relationship with Rock Nation? My relationship with Rock Nation is, there's people over there. If Drake made me pay for an aisle sweatshirt, like, I'm, I'm going, I'm crashing up.

Why? I went to the Pop-up store. It's supporting my people. Crash now. I went to the pop-up store and I'm- It's OVO Act now. Like, pull at this. It's OVO Act.

Yo, y'all fin of see me on tour. Y'all gonna see me everywhere. Me and Chubbs gonna be doing extra screening. Y'all know that'd be happening, right? Extra screening of the baddies. You feel me? Trust me, it's Ovio Act now. Yo, chat, we came from a long way.

Remember when I couldn't get some tickets? Now, yo, me and Chubs were screening the baddies. Straight up. You feel me? I can't wait until a tour. I can't wait. I can't wait. Bought mad shit.

If you had, when you was having a Scorpion T-shirts, I bought one. One of them Academy T-shirt, you probably didn't even know that. I went to your fucking website and bought an Academy T-shirt. Then you started talking too crazy so I couldn't wear. All right? You started talking. Yo, by the way, can we talk about that for a second? I want people to notice.

Okay. Me and Act have an actual relationship. That's why I be sitting back looking at the TV sometime or the YouTube, and I'm like, what the fuck is Act even talking about it? How many times have I, there was the time I called to- This is the first time I've ever given you harsh criticism. That's not true. I don't mind criticism.

Criticism is fine. No, no. An attack is different. Criticism is fine. Well, I'm still going to think it's criticism is- Okay, whatever you call this. It's the first time. You've attacked.

Okay, you could call it that, but you launched an attack first too. No, I didn't. How? Like, I looked at it. I bombed Australia. No, I know you didn't. I didn't bomb Jersey. I ain't go to Jamaica.

I bombed Australia. I went to Australia because that was the person with the smoke. That was the person who went. And I know you now? I know this guy. It's not just some academics TV. So I can't just... Let me put you on the phone.

Again, it's clearly... I don't see what the point of that would be. I can see... I'm going to take why the point is. I think he should see this right now and say, I'm going to leave him alone. He'll leave me alone. And it's really that simple.

Is it a mutual thing like that? Because I don't have no problem with him. The only reason I started calling out George Wynn is because he started going in on me. So why not just have the conversations real quick? I don't, it's hard for me to have conversations with people who move like that. I don't have a reason to have a conversation with him.

Me and you have a relationship. Me and you have years of cachet with each other. Okay, so we can do a ceasefire. I just want to talk about shit like politics. Seasfire. I'm not bombing. I'm only bombing because he's bombing. Every time he bomb, I'm a bomb back with some shit,

especially when articles are coming out and it's ammo. Okay. So if you get a ceasefire, we could squarely identify, we could put the target, which is the rock. Throw it up.

No, no. Throw it up. Do it the fuck up. If you throw it up, it's okay. I told the rock, too. It's okay. Let me ask you.

Okay. We were two lanes at some point. So check it out. I have no problem. with George, the only reason I'm coming at George, because he's coming at me. What if I can make that happen with you in Rock Nation? Yeah, I won't open discourse.

I don't want, I don't want, I'm always down to talk shit out. I'm always down to figure out a mutual ground. If I was able to set up a meeting where it's me, you, and a higher up there, it's not going to be public, of course. It got to be desert. I can't talk to like some other page show. They're going to just have in the room recording. I be like, yo, I don't know.

I'm not going to sit here and say I can make anything. Yeah, I wouldn't talk to. nobody at Rock Nation. I don't know who Emery is. I don't know what none of these niggas do. I don't even know him. If it's not Jay-Z and if it's not Desiree, listen, man, let's get up what we

get up with each other. Man, I'm not trying to talk to no other nigger, man. Like, yo, you only talk to bosses, not second-income man, straight up. Like that happened, I'm going to say, if I try because there's really no reason to have these issues that. I really believe that. You don't need this kind of smoking your life.

I don't think they need. Do you think motherfuckers want people outside of their house, if you're telling me this is what Rock Nation is doing, why would you want that? Why would you want to go to war with a multi-billion-dollar corporation? But not because...

Why would they want to go to war with me? I got niggas cutting their head, man. The fuck. Why don't you want to go to war with me? They could be a trillion-dollar corporation. They're not going to silence the world. And you like Jay. I do like Jay.

You're from Jersey. I do like Jem music. I don't know how much you act like... And I love... I think Dr. I do like... I fuck with Rive and all in them, too. I fuck with...

with Future too I fuck with some of young boy shit too but don't act like you don't like jane no i do like this music i think reasonable that's one of the best albums all the time so why me and you can be at yankee stadium this weekend in the suite we could be in the shit you said you went you're the kendrick show so i want the kentrick show saying that was wild why would you do that why would you why would you do that because at that point in in the battle obviously drake's my favorite but it wasn't as toxic as it is now. So I wanted to go watch his performance because I go to everybody's concert.

Russ actually started that with me where I remember the online hate for Russ a lot. I was like, I got to go see it. And when I went to his concert, I was like, gave me a whole new perspective. Kendrick doing these stadium tours, I really wanted to see hip hop in a stadium. But this is when I say,

this is when I feel like sometimes you can be a little green. And this is how sometimes I feel like either act doesn't truly know the severity of the things that he's saying or maybe he just don't give a fucking he's just a wild motherfucker there's no reason for you to be at that concert and I'm gonna tell you why

what happened at that concert nothing what happened at the concert at what happened at concert you tell me listen man I think Charlott may think he the only nigga who done got small on man yo Charlotte niggas been out been outside it's just happening the thing is

I don't make it define me like that like yo whatever like nigga this is just a contact sport nigga like fuck it Nika might swing all you might get a little bit active. Like, Charlotte got one swinging video, like a nigga punched on him. And, like, it's like, it's the thing that defines him on everything. Now, I'm not no crash out like Tach Stone. That's why that nigg is in jail.

But it's like, bro, I know if I, what do you think I'm not going to go to a fucking show if I think somebody? I go to mad shows where I know niggas don't like me at. Like, I know how to move accordingly. And shit, if you're going to get there, it's going to get there. But I hope it don't. Like, I think Charlotte made things he the only one that's been outside the house. That's the thing they got I'm gonna go exactly where the fuck I want to go they got to another Kensher concert about fucking want to This time I'm coming maybe with like 25 people

Came to find you. Yeah, you're thinking just because no Let me finish let me finish and all and you're acting like I wasn't prepared for sure, but you're thinking that just because I don't know what was it was gonna do you should because everybody not gonna come in peace Why get you are your team or your secure? whoever, why get them in a situation just because you can't walk around like nothing is going to happen. It's the same thing with the little baby situation.

Little baby has one phone call with you, makes you think everything good, and then one of his man's try you. That could have been a gunshot, bro. That's the type of shit I'd be thinking about. Show me. As you were as the showman got soft now, man, hip-hop of contact sport, nigger.

Like, anytime you give you a pain on these niggies, they all want to fight you, they all want to kill you. That's the reality of it. You either go to do two things, right? You either just stay in that. house and do it, right? Or you get rich enough like me. I'm gonna go anywhere. Nick, the fuck. Like, what the hell?

I move like the rap or beyond the rapper. I'm going anywhere I want. Come on, man. When I call you, I want you to think about time. And it's not being tough. It's just like, bro, the reality is I have no problems with no other person that's not in the rap industry. If I got to go do a job or I want to go see a show, like, I'm going to go do it. You know what I mean? Now, obviously, I'm not pulling. up to provoke people, right? Like, I didn't go to that Kendra concert.

Like, let me show these niggas is bitches. Nah, definitely I didn't do that. Right? Um, I just wanted to watch the show. But, yeah, the idea, like, yeah, what do you think? Because little baby got a bunch of, like, killers. I'm just going to, like, say his music's good. Fuck that nigger.

You know what I mean? Sometimes I've called you. What I always say to you at. And that's another thing, too. What Charlemagne don't realize is, like, I don't know what's up with what goes on with him. He's been on mental health shit, though. So, nigga, you know how much mad incidents done happen?

Like, y'all just don't hear about it. I wouldn't even talk about the little baby shit If little babies, nigga, then talk about it. Nigel, win, lose her, draw. Nick, there's mad shit that's happened. Like, you think these rappers like me? I just don't, like, I just keep it real with it. You know what I mean?

Like, unless it was some shit that, like, the cops and I involved, like, force you. Y'all don't know. But, nigga, there's mad incidents that happened. Like, now, some of the stuff I mentioned that you could joke around about it. Like, I remember I talked about the cat, uh, the Cassanova shit. But there's mad incidents, you know, it's just I'm not going fucking, you know, like Charlotte, like,

yo, they swung at you one time at the breakfast club, nigga, niggie do, now you're getting paid $200 million, nigga, you're supposed to have 20 niggas with you. The next time a nigga, try that, you punish him. That's it, nigga. This is hip-hop. You made $200 million by popping shit,

nigga, that's how it works. When I look at myself, I see the Lambo, the Mayback, the this the third, that in the third, I see my mama's house, my mama Mercedes, this, that. Nick, I know I got,

this shit. You think I'm just like cower down? No, I'm not backing down neither. I'm like, I'm not trying to incite nothing, but I know how I got my shit. And the only thing I say to anybody who's in hip hop, if you are going to pop shit, get money. Make sure you got some money because hip hop is an expensive sport. You don't have to have them securities or you're going to have to have them crash house that they might have to do something. You're going to have to bail them out. You have to pay some legal fees. But you can't let rappers punk you. That's what they try to do. They want to punk you. They want to punk you. They want to punk. you out your opinion this and third.

Like, Charlotte made should know that. Don't make the same mistakes I've made, bro. Shala. Have I not told you that? I agree. But one thing I'll say is... Charlotte also called me when... I remember when Tachstone got locked up.

Charlotte called me and be like, yeah, this dummy just really tricked himself out of his position. Don't do this act. And I agreed. I was like, yeah. I'll make sure that, like, the equivalent of what Tachstone did was showing up to a little baby concert. And I appreciated that call, Charlotte.

Yeah, we knew that nigga was, we knew that nigga was an idiot. I think even Charlotte knew he was an idiot. Like, you know, I think Charlotte was just hoping that nigga crashed out and killed somebody that he didn't like, too. You know what are those ones where you know what this thing is going to go to jail? You're like, at least if you're going to go to jail for killing somebody, kill one of my ops as well. You know what I mean? Like, but he knew that, yo, Taxstone was born to be in jail.

Everybody knows that. You get what I'm saying? So I respect it. Charlotte called me after you, like, you see what I said? and I was like, yo, Sharla, you know you, you see everything what Charlotte is saying to me. Shala was putting the battery in taxes back and taxed in jail. I'm just like, listen, I'm going to heed your warning.

I'm not antagonistical. Now, let me not even say Charlotte was putting the batteries back because I don't want to blame Shardler. That nigg is just a dummy. That niggis just a dummy. That's a fact. But Shalda definitely called me after them and be like, you see? that's what happened

But the nuance to it was Yo, the nigger shows up to a concert That's what I'm saying Remember I told you to think about like Cardi B Cardi B, I'm about to go to Cardi B's concert in Philly Meek talked like five times on the phone recently Like you know what I mean like we haven't had no real smoke On some nigga when I see you blah blah

Nigger this is going to be Philly I know Cardi's bringing a Cardi calls me and say act Just to let you know that he's going to be here You feel me nigga yo I made this I ain't I ain't going my first time seeing Meek Mill

will not be in Philly when he finally get all the dream chaser goons to come out with him to like do dreams a nightmare now I'm good and it probably it probably would have been nothing but you got to learn when to avoid shit you know what I mean like I'm not gonna be like

oh let me stick my chest out I'm not even needed that I could go to any Cardi B's say you come to any show you could go to my show in Montana I'm not gonna be like no I'm not pussy I'm coming no you got it you feel what I'm saying it's cool

when young thug when young thug and little baby was running around Miami playing gangster play with a cardie not cardi play where cardi invited like who was about a I was about pilot to the club um vendone with him nigger my security and everything be like yo bro

they pulled up whatever whatever traves or whatever nigga I said bro I catch y'all nix another time what I'm gonna do go to the club and go have a whole brawl that's tax stone shit I'm not trying to to do that. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm trying to fuck with whoever I fuck with, but also move safe. I'm not trying to be dumb. You get what I'm saying? Like, nigga, y'all see where I live. I live way out of rappers. I don't live around rappers. I don't really, I'm selected with them. So, you know, the only thing is if I got something to do or if I'm being paid or something like that or if I'm going to go out, which I am going to go out, I take proper precautions. That's it. is that

what I've learned about hip hop and I don't even have a problem like admitting that those situations happen I live my life as how this culture and my job like it's gonna be how it's gonna be honestly. Nah, it don't have to be.

I'm not saying to move down. Your Charlotte made is good talking like this your showler you made your money popping shit nigga like that mental health if Charlotte started on mental health from day one that nigga would have been nowhere. I'm gonna give you out of the good and the bad.

It's like yeah, nigga like It is expensive to be someone who's a little bit antagonistical or, like, you know, you kind of are polarizing. But, nigger, you better make sure you good at your job. That you got some money to, like, protect yourself. Nigger, that's what it is. To give your opinion, you got to, you, like, these niggas will beat your opinion out of you. Like, nigga, I seen Traplor Ross. Traplor Ross at ComplexCon.

Traplorrault, don't talk crazy like me. Nigger, Traplor, I'm in Central C booth. I see Traploros. That's my man. They had some big smoke. Good thing, Trappolo Ross. He already thinking about that mindset. He's moving with security.

He moving like this. As, you know, media personalities, they don't, that wasn't their steeds. Like, these days, I think some of the media personnel, definitely streamers are bigger than the rapper. So we all should be moving with security, moving with, not necessarily an entourage. I like professional security, but, yeah, like, after they swung on Charlemagne, I think I heart gave that niggas. Sharma was making way too much money not to have security. I'm gonna be honest with you.

Way too much money. So like to keep it real, like the way he was wiling, you should have been at security. You feel what I'm saying? But, um, yeah. They gave him some white man in a suit, ready to shoot,

niggas, like, after that, nobody tried him no more. So it was like, yeah, you're either gonna, I think he kind of gives these warnings,

like, niggas, he's the only one whoever got swung at. It's like, no. I got swung at too, okay.

Nick, it's not no, like, stripe. I was like, okay. Oh, what does that mean? Like, now I like little baby. They can fuck little baby.

What the fuck? Like, nigga, even if he did punch me, like, you think that was going to stop me? They got to went crazy on a little baby immediately. Like, you think that one punch is going to stop me? They're going to fuck. Get out of here. I definitely don't move dumb.

I think a lot of, but even not moving dumb, there's no need to antagonize situations. Don't need to kick hornets nest when you don't have to. You can have your opinion. I'm definitely going to move the way. Like, no, you should always.

You know, No, and I'm going to stand on that opinion. Like, I don't care if you're getting mad and if you see me, it's going to be a problem. It's a difference between an opinion and slander, though. It's a difference. Having an opinion about somebody's music, even having an opinion about somebody's wardrobe, having an opinion about somebody's personality, that's one thing. Let me say this, because you could be given an opinion and if someone looks at you in their mind,

they're like, in reality, I feel like just because you don't like, that happens a lot where people like, Because you don't like me. It's like Kaisenai and I'm a little TJ. A little TJ is saying, because you don't like me, there's so many other people that won't like me. So people sometimes want to force your hand to like them. Yeah, but I saw you say, I saw you want to scream say, I will choke the shit out of little baby.

What? All right. So people around little baby that like him are going to feel away about that and want to do some wild shit. The thing is, I think Sharman think I was playing victim in the little baby thing. I just thought little baby was on some sucker shit. Don't call me to beg me for, like, beg me to be cool and lay off your music for you to try to do some snake shit. Like, your low-key, like, if you, if you were as tough as you think you are,

you would have been said, nigga, it's up for you no matter what. And we could have moved accordingly that's what it is. Nigel, you copped a plea. You copped a plea, and then your labor paid me for music promotion and then try to do some suckers shit. I can't respect it. So I'm going to air you out. Like, I'm not playing victim.

I'm just saying, nigga, nigga, you basically had to pay me to get off your ass. Like, nigga, that's not gangster nigga. Gangster nigga would have to, like, rock his opt to sleep. Like, no, if you're that tough, you'd have never been like, nigga, you was on the phone, quiet voice still murmuring and shit. You had to do all that with Rod Wave on the phone. You would have said, fuck that, nigga academics. So I can't, I respect him on some gangster shit.

Because the nigga copped a plea to me. You can't cop a plea. and then tell your label to pay me for music promotion if you really don't fuck with me or you hate me and then try to get like, oh, we got our get back. How you get your get back, nigga? You paying your ops?

You apologize into them? You exchange it. Come on, brother, that's not gangster. So, like, when I look at that, I'm like, yo, I don't care what y'all say about him. I've seen his true character. Nigel, call me an internet, nigga, a bitch, or whatever.

I made him fold. Nicky was on the phone with me, nigga Yeah, now I should have said that I mean, like Bro, you'd have been stood on it Nicky you have to apologize to disoomere your album, nigga So when I see you doing the other shit

I'm like The gangsters who I think I know They never apologize For doing the gangster shit initially All right, whenever I see that nigga That's all I would say Yeah, that's my point is Why provoke things like that?

That's totally different than Little Baby, music is white. Two things can be true. That's completely different. And that's what I've always tried to get you to avoid. I've picked up the phone. I remember one time picking up the phone and saying,

heck, yo, you go too hard on women, yo. And I literally said, don't make the same mistakes that I made. That's what I said to you. You did mention that, but that wasn't why you called me. I can't remember why you called me. Oh, I can tell you why we were on the phone that time. Why? This was before you launched off the record.

And I was getting ready to launch Black Effect. And I was trying to get you to do an academics podcast. Because this was like two days. I remember because it was COVID because I was down in South Carolina at the Beach House cooling. And I remember picking up the phone and calling you. And I forgot who you might have been whiling on. And I was how I'm like, yo. Yeah, Charlotte describing why I don't care about deals more.

It's how I don't do them deals. The reality of it is that Spotify pay me like we got an offer from Charlotte. Me naked Spotify pay me like 10 times more than that. You feel what I'm saying? It's like here's the thing. The reality of how things are is like, Like, I'm going to be honest with you, Charlemagne can't offer me enough money for me to get on no black effect. Matter of fact, Spotify can't offer me enough to stay with them.

That's what I'm good with all deals. You feel what I'm saying? Like, nobody could really offer me enough money to be reping their brand where I got to worry about how I got to move. Because if one day a clip blow up and you'd be like, damn, yo, academics canceled because he told Ruri rest in piss. I don't want to get no call from no company There's no company calling me And here's the thing I only got with Spotify

Because I needed like I still felt like I needed that Co-sign and that big brand name was whatever Niggins I've made more money not being with these niggins I would never sign no more deals Like every deal I see a nigga sign No except this Netflix deal The Netflix deal is kind of crazy I'll be honest with this I see the Netflix

I was like Hey, Charlotte, you got it. But other than that, anybody else deal? I'm like, yo, I'm getting it. I'm getting it by trapping. Yeah, I've never signed more deals. I don't want no company. Well, Netflix will holl at me if they're giving that budget.

But Spotify, I'm good. I'm good. You'll hear what I said to him. I stop even talking to my agent and my entertainment lawyer. I know y'all want you out 20. No, they get 15% for me. My lawyer get 5% and the agent get 10%. Cool. Like, I don't want them more deals. Straight up. Like, I'm getting all the money I'm making.

Nigger, these companies don't make me me. Nicka, I'm the bag. So, like, at this point, I'm like, why the fuck would I even entertain a deal, especially when most of the deals you're getting? That's why when, like, you got to watch out for cancellation. Right now, nigga, I'm tweaking on niggas. There's no cancellation. Who you won't get me canceled by? I think I could probably get back on Twitch I don't even know if it's worth holling at them because they're still so pussy and safe as like you get back on there like

niggas is like trying to like bro right now I don't care what I say who y'all gonna get me canceled by who and I'm still getting more money shout to kick I'm always shot to kick shot to kick shot to stick but like shit I left Twitch nigga I get more money on kick

I'm gonna lie to keep it real the reason why I haven't even got like even try to get back on on Twitch nigga kick is like hit me with it like I'm like I never seen this over at Twitch

I'm good and they're the most PC so I'm straight with y'all nigs I'm good so that's kind of what I've been on but yeah I'm not really like like some of these partnerships and shit like that I don't do them no more I don't do them no more

Like, I personally think, with all due respect to Charlene Joe, I think I got the biggest voice in hip-hop. But for y'all to get, for y'all to put some money and book me or put me on like some deal, y'all going to have to pay me so much, it's going to sound stupid. What I mean? But I do, I do respect Charlemagne's like $200 million deal. I like that. $200 million is, when I start breaking it out into month, because I love comparing everything to me, I'm like. Okay. All right, Charlemagne.

Now, I don't know how much of that 200 Rock Nation fronted. But it's all good. Now, you know, I'm happy for Charleney. I'm happy with Charleney. I think we're all doing good, man. We all doing great. Back, you're going too hard on. I'm going to be honest with you when it comes to, like, career-wise.

I got to say, honestly. I'll tell you this. Yo, I had one bad week on Spotify. I remember they asked told me they said, yo, don't mention nothing about Spotify for the week. It was like, yo, they were hiding. Man, I don't want no company like that, man. Fuck out of here. Like, I rock with y'all knickers, but like,

bro, I gotta keep it up being with you. Like, I'm so secure where I am in my career, nigga, and what I've accomplished and my actual worth is like, bro, like, it's not like I'm happy to be with y'all nigga. Y'all should be happy to be with me. Fuck out of here. Like, I think it was after, like, a bitch was acting up at Komodo

and she was trying to fight some bids as I broke it up. Then they reported it like I was fighting a girl. And I was breaking up my chick trying to fight. she's drunk anyway essentially I remember like because actually we were out there for some Spotify

shit doing like yo don't mention Spotify for the week just chill just and I was just like alright nigga like yo what the fuck I'm cool though I'm cool so now that's why you see yo I'm living my best life right now

no deal I don't want no deal someone just brought a deal over recent before I could even talk to my niggins to be like, yo, let's get an offer. I said, I'm good. I don't know what they're offering, but I'm good.

I don't want to be with nobody who going to think that, you know, oh, I need to act like this. And I'm good. I have zero regrets. Every single thing. I think the way I've played it was the only way that I could feel like I was being true to what I'm doing. that I love.

I respect that. So, like, you know, obviously, not everything turned my way. What I've learned is like, I just gotta take the good with the bad. There's some good. There's a lot of bad. I'm with you, but depending on the energy that you put out that bad can be really bad. Thank God for me the bad has only been getting punched in the back of the head and got to watch a video for the rest of my life with a motherfucker asking me, can I get a drop, right?

Then there was another time where I had to- You gotta get that- I had to fuck somebody up across- You gotta get this. I don't care about this shit. told me this a couple of times they should have that they had this availability and stuff i don't care about that like that's like i can't get a drop video online and watch motherfuckers call me pussy and say i ran for the rest of my life i don't care i don't have

anything to prove to any of those people like i already know what's going to happen with this interview what if we put it up it should we might i don't know i really don't know i don't care i don't know why you said if it's like bro i'm gonna be honest with you i like public conversation. I don't really got nothing to hide from y'all niggas, man. I told Charlotte, I was like, yo, that financial stuff

that y'all could run around with that Jeremy falsely claim was whatever, y'all should put it out. Bro, why do I want media niggas to know my business? I ride the whole world know my business. Like, nigga, I ain't hiding nothing. Like, y'all could just put it out.

Nick, it said $400,000 I got paid on PayPal for like some music payments and some shit like that. And it was, and those weren't even label sheds. Those were just like, like, labels get agencies that howl at me. Like, yeah.

Yeah, this is that, that's that, that's that. Yeah. Okay. Like, niggins trying to get a gotcha on me. It's like, yo, it's like, you think Act is denied it? I'm putting on both of our platforms. We got to mention, no edits. Yo, this guy.

No, no edits. But if we put it out, because honestly, I just enjoy us having this conversation. Because we don't get to do that. Like, I don't want to talk on the phone. I was like, you know what? I literally said I want to sit down, talk to act, look him in the eyes, and see if he believes some of this shit. You said a manic.

That's crazy. It sounded a little manic. You told me Desiree sitting here, Jay Z sitting there. You know what I mean? I mean figuratively. But everything I'm saying, it... You posted that you was bringing mad security because they were going to have you killed.

Slate theater, but I do believe that around this would get somebody killed. What? Why? That's... That right there is a wild accusation to put on somebody at. That's wild. That's a wild.

to put on somebody up. So I should believe the video about Drake being a mob boss in Toronto and all of them, I should believe that? I'm not tell you what to be. I'm just trying to tell you. I'm telling you when it comes to Rob Nation. In that video, they say they got mad bodies, kidnappings. Hold on, let me.

Should I believe that video about Drake being a mob boss in Toronto? I don't know nothing about what's going on, Toronto. What I'm trying to say is that. I don't know. Iraq. Once again, I got to give you my shameless plug. Y'all go to IM Academics on the gram. We out in Toronto, man. We're turning up another notch. Eventbright.com.

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Trust me, Chad If you can make your way to Toronto July 31st, 8 p.m. We're there It's good my best show yet. Trust me in every single way possible. Okay, just know that. Anyway, back to this.

I believe they will put a nigga in jail. If you put a thing in jail, you would definitely kill that nigga. Like, come on. This is crazy. Now obviously pulls the trigger yourself, but, you know, this is...

This is... Do means and influences. We're not going to get anywhere on this conversation, okay? I like Jay-Z. You like Drake. That don't mean that we should be at odds with each other and making the internet shooting each other. I just wanted to disclose your next time, show.

Just be like, yo, I just talked to Desiree, just to let you know. That's not what happened, though. If I knew where that information came from, I would have given it to you. And I also told you the information I had wasn't the same information that Jeremy had, clearly. Because I didn't know nothing about that shit he was talking about.

No, he just lied. I literally said to you, The only thing I'm seeing on the phone, the only thing I'm seeing on this is a bunch of music page. No, he's just lied. That's what it is. I didn't lie. What you showed me, I think that's what he has.

He's just an idiot. So like he looked at a thing that's a payment and he called it politics. He's just stupid. Did I lie to you? I didn't lie to you about nothing. I didn't lie to you. I told you the information I had.

I don't know if it's true, but I told you that, yo, these guys got pressed by investigators and they said X, Y, and Z. This article that I read, to you said the same thing. So clearly all of these media outlets got the same information. But when you say investigators, we're talking about PIs who are trying to get civil cases. I just said investigate.

That's what I said. You know, it's loaded. It's leading. It's not. Because I never said that publicly. I said it to you. That's all that information was for you to discern. You got to go take that information and figure shit out.

Yeah, but half the information wasn't right. You said he's stealing. That's not true. But you know what was deceptive? And I couldn't be wrong. You might have told me this on the phone, but I don't remember you telling me this. I don't remember you telling me, yeah. Yeah, you know, one of Kendrick's people, when they saw me at the concert, they said that they had a PI on me.

You didn't tell me that. No, I told you. You didn't tell me there was a scream, which I saw later. No, no, I definitely told you that. I said, because when I was trying to, like, unravel this, and I said, I told you that. And then I told you about the deposition thing. And I said, I think this is coming from Rock Nation. You didn't tell me about the scream that you was on.

And at the time, I guess it was George. The investigators were at his house, and y'all was listening to it. It wasn't George. Yes, it was. No, it wasn't. I heard Aiden saying they're at Grand's house right now. That wasn't, see, that's what I'm saying. Charles, you don't have even the input.

I don't. The guy on that phone call, his name is blurry. Okay, he's a streamer. He acted as if he... Yeah, just to clarify, y'all never heard Grand Wizard's voice. Like, there was a time that people were... There was a bunch of private investigators trying to surround the house they thought was Grand Wizards. And they wanted him to come out the house, right?

So they kept leaving cards under the door or they put stuff on the door. So they're surrounding the house. I was aware. We were aware. And basically, we had someone speak to them. And the person who spoke to them was a streamer. And that streamer, we were trying to elicit information about who and where it was coming from. And that whole call was recorded.

That call was later played on stream Not only by me, but a few other people But that was not Grand Wizard's voice I never heard his voice So Charlotte is referencing that But I was aware Of this then

And these are my people So we're actively monitoring it But it was a streamer talking to him That was trolling the investigator Trying to figure stuff up Not not Grand He was Grand Wizard And he, because they were

trying to figure out Who does this private investigator work for, right? They believe they're at an address. If you listen to the whole thing, they said, I'll come outside and talk to you. Go get me a burger first. Oh, go get me this.

I'm hungry. That's what snitches do. They want to eat. And remember, I told you, I told you that it wasn't just George. You know, I still trying to get it. I told you it wasn't just George that got fresh by investigative. I gave you two other names.

I said, Carson McCoy. Shalerman keeps seeing snitching. Like he's trying to say, my guy snitched. Okay, how would you snitch civilly? And that Alex Ops your kid. Right? Did not tell you that?

Okay, okay. Where do you, because I've heard this a couple of times, or could you at least be like, by the way, Lazarus, you're good for this whole clip on all the Facebooks and all that type of stuff. By the way, I got to put you on the Academy. Because I want you to upload it. And then drill, oh, well, well, yeah, drill, you could clip whatever.

I have no proof of it. This idea that Drake runs my page. Who we put that to bed to be like. I never saw that. What I was told. What they said was the Alex and the Carson kid. You repeated on brilliant idiots that someone told you that. And I said, they said Alex.

Who's there? The information, the people that sent the information. I got to ask Lauren. They said that the Alex Ocher kid and the Carson McCoy kid used to run academics TV. And they gave it to George and Drake. By the way, you told me that Drake and George talk more than you and George talk. Yeah, the homie.

That's why I keep saying when I first bought all of this to you, you weren't as game. You and George was so-to. That's my man. Now you, now- Yo, announcement to the internet. Listen, I know y'all hate Gran, but Grand is like NBA Young Boy in the rap game.

You see how everybody hate Young Boy? That's our nigger. Drake love him and I love him too. I'm sorry. Just get over it. and move on. All right? No, no, no.

You wanted me to, which by the way, now I'm thinking about the conversation, you could have a desert around the other thing. It's like you want to pick my man out of the line. I'm no, nigga, I don't know how it looked like. But I never said me and Grand Wizard wasn't cool.

That's, you said that Grand and Drake talk more than y'all do. I'll say it on equipment. By the way, that's true. Grant and Drake might talk more than me and Drake do. Because when me and Drake talk, we're talking about some shit, like we're going to get into some shit.

Like, we're going back and forth. Grant and Drake Like Grant is like an AI Like literally like he's gonna update what's going on Hey you've seen this Da da da da da da yo watch look at this Look at what blah blah blah

Yeah he does that for me He does that for Drake too Drake's our nigga like what the fuck This OVO act what the fuck you think I'm gonna be for the whole world to hear That's like my right hand Okay I can't say that

You see how Drake said I'm his right hand I'm Drake's right hand Which by the way Oh chat Remember when, you know when Drake had said you're my right hand and I didn't wish him happy birthday? I go on lie. Drake.

Drake. I see how Drake moved with his friends because he was, like on my birthday, he was like, oh, like he was going crazy. But so he loves birthdays, clearly. But, yeah, I'm Drake's right hand man. And Grant is both of our right hand man. What's the problem? About anybody at Rock Nation's.

Okay, well, listen. I'm being honest. I can't say that. What they say about you? They'll probably say that's my man. And I'll say the same thing. Those are my peoples. But I can't say that's...

Drake said it about me. I said it about Grand. Yeah, I can't say it was my right hands. But they have assisted me with a lot, especially when it comes to design... And I think I told you this before. I love how the paper plane look. So if I love how the paper plane look,

I'm going to reach out to the person who created the paper plane. Yo, Emery, I want somebody to design this Black Effect logo. I'm about to launch this podcast network. you know can we make that can we can we get that to happen i got you so the person that designed the paper plane designed the black effect logo the black effect that's a jz and biance song yo i want to name my company black effect got that from this song can i get permission to do that that's the extent of relationships so rurie asked for permission to

so rurie acts of permission to marry his wife and charlemagne asked her permission to to make his company's logo, fine. I got people up there, one person in particular, who I really look at is like a big brother, but you wouldn't even know who that person is. Like, that's not a person that's a public figure. That's why I wouldn't even say his name now. But he's not even, you would never know who that individual is,

and he don't even deal with any of that, this type of shit. You and Desiree, like, dinner's this stuff? Okay. That's the homie. I love, I love Desiree. That is a complete fact. That's no, that's, there's a, I think she's the worst thing

ever happened to hip hop I think he loved Deserate Man Desiree is the worst thing That ever happened nigga A certified snitch Who comes in and like She's in everybody business We don't know what she does

At least Jay we love his music Who the fuck is this bitch, nigga? That's not a person That's a public figure That's why I wouldn't even say his name now But he's not even You would never know who to- Listen what he says about Desiree

Hey add this to the Demoree Hadley-Dock it This is what y'all need to know This is what you need to know Individual is don't even deal with any of that, this type of shit. You and Desiree, like, dinner's and dinner's and stuff? Okay.

That's the homie. I love, I love Desiree. That is a, that is a complete fact. That's no, there's no shit. I think she's one of the shit going on is because of her. I think you're wrong. I think that she's one of the best things that happen to hip-hop.

By the way, that's perspective. I think she's fucked up Jay's legacy in terms of, I think you're wrong. In how people perceive him. I think there was a time that, there was a time where 99.9% it was all love for Jay and I think now people look at him as a very slimy, scummy, uncrustworthy person. Well, he's selling out arenas all over the country.

140,000 people are buying his merch. That's not everybody in the world. I wish you could come to the show. I'm going to send you video from the show. I would never be at that show. I'm going to send you video from the show so you can see people singing song wordical word. I'll go to 10 Kenz. You shouldn't go to any of them.

Yeah, I'll go to 10 Kendrick show before I go to a Jay Z show. You know why? Kendrick is going to have some dirty cripping gets pull up on. me, nigga. I'm going to look at them, nigga, they're going to be, like, doing all this, throwing this shit up. And I'm like, yo, what's the, yo, yo, yo, you know, smile, like, stop all that fucking cripp walking for a second and talk to me. What's up with y'all? Yeah, we good. Like, yo, Kendrick don't got no, like, Illuminati shit going on. Desiree Perez and Jay-Z, they'll get you killed. Facts.

Don't go to Kendrick, little baby, rock, Jay-D. I'm not going to go to a little baby show. Like, if I go to a little baby show, clearly I want to fight. Right? Like, why the fuck would I go there? Kendrick show, I probably wouldn't go again, but like, I never told to Kendrick. All I know, like, Dave Free, like,

he need to take, like, his fucking tetanus shot before I get around him again. Dave Free is unhinged, okay? Day Free been bawling since Drake said the baby is his or baby is and whatever the fuck Drake said. You, I'll go to both of them shows before I ever, no, no, yeah, I'll go to, Y'all go to a little baby show and I'll go to a Kendrick show before I go to a Jay-Z show. A Jay-Z show is you want somebody to put something in your drink, stick you with an AIDS needle. Fucking, nah, hell, no, I would never do that. A little baby show, but I'll go to 10 Kensick show before I go to one Jay-Z show.

You can't miss out. Listen, listen. At least if I go to Kendrick show, there's a couple of cripplingers is trying to get active. I'll go to, I go to Jay-Zee. The country. Huh? Sneaking one out the country. Mm-mm.

I don't tell you, only that I can tell you is... If I was in a venue that Jay-Z perform, I would think I'm getting poisoned, like this was a trap. Like, hell no. Your perspective is your perspective, my perspective. A lot of people like yourself. Listen, and that's cool. There's billions of people on this planet.

I do have a proposal for them, though. I think their entire PR is fucked. Whoever they got trying to run narratives, weak as fuck, I think they need to come hollet me and George. We could probably do something for them. You want, once again, do you want to have the conversation? Yo, Jay-Z, I got a dollar amount. I won't say it, but if we

talk business, you know how, listen, we're like a crisis PR firm. Except we did it for the homie, Drake on the humble, because we love them. For you, the money you're spending right now, if you gave us about half of that, you'd be straight.

You wouldn't even need to cut cut that here you know you took like 10 years to grow it like you don't even need to do that holl at me howl at me well just holl at me i'll set the whole play up you'll be good okay the belt of ass will stop you know you might rock with you but it depends on how like y'all gotta have that because y'all got the money for everything else y'all got to come correct you feel me y'all got to come correct and also the payment you by to give none of you it could be an incentive hoping that we slime out drizzie or anybody else we don't we don't we don't slam out our our homies we don't do that but if you want to keep selling salt to a snail

you want to keep telling people how your target deal is great you want to keep telling people how Colin Kaepernick is an illiterate fool who you had to replace with with the NFL you want to tell people how them fucking people live in in Brooklyn where you had to move them out to get I'm Barclays is all in good faith. Maybe we could help you with that narrative. Come holl at me. Come talk to Big Hack. Have a good meeting, but that checkbook better be ready and open.

And also, here's the thing, my only caveat. Because I'm the nigger. Ask about my reputation with the record labels. I rob him and tell people about it. I'm not robbing you in silence like Charlottlement. Charleman taking your money and trying to act like nobody knows. I'm taking your money and I'm bragging about it, nigga. You're going to see 10 more Maybacks, three more houses,

and I'm just going to just be like, nah, fuck with Jay. It's all good. All right? Just come holl at me, all right? Whatever you pay Charlemagne, we need like quadru. Give me 5x. Charlemagne's not doing a good job. You give me 5x or whatever you paying him.

I don't care if you pay him $2 million. Give me 10. Straight up. Charmaine not doing a good job. Like, Charlemagne too much in mental health. He not really scrappy enough to get down with this. Come holl at me that $10 million deal. We're not stinking drizzie.

We're not doing, we're not doing none of that shit. But if you're tired of cutting your hair, you're tired of getting that secret or whatever the fuck they keep putting your shit, you're tired of like, you know what I mean? Yeah, if you're tired of that,

you want to get down with a squad? And yeah, I'm giving grand Alisa Mill. That's a fact. Come on a lot of me, man. Come on, let me, man. Come get down with death row. Feel me? If I can make a conversation happen.

Charlie, you're doing what, I'm going to quote Dame Dash on this. Okay. Because every time you interview him, you'll ask him questions. And you claim you have some relationship with these other people. Tell us what they say. By the way, chat, I'm going to point out this about myself. I know you about the clown.

I lost so much weight. Because y'all tell, I haven't been back to Drew in a bit. My bracelet is mad big now and even my watch. That's why my watch not fitting like snug on my wrist. It needs to take out two links. Nick, I lost mad weight. You know what it is? Like I'm 190 now.

I used to be 270. Actually 277 or 279 am I, my heaviest. So that's, was that 90 pounds? Like damn there? So yeah, my jewelry, like even I got two diamond rings. I can't wear them. It don't fit me no more. It's just like it'll just fall off type of shit.

Because I've said yes to this answer already. I've told you what they said, but you don't want to believe me. I'll say yes to that question you're asking. I'm asking already. So now, are we going to get an update? I said yes. Yes. Will I get an update on, hey, I did talk to them. They told me this.

Yes. And Charlotte's line. I'm telling you what I'm saying. He'll never tell you, oh, I talked to Desiree and they said this. That's part of his contract. He'll never tell us that. Has Charlotte ever said I talked to Jay? Like, you know we talk to them at this point.

He'll never be like, oh, I talk to Deserate. This is her opinion. You know why? Because she wants to be invisible. He'll just listen to me talk about them and gaslight me. I'm telling you right now, they're not thinking about you. You don't want to believe that. Oh, my God.

Yo, and Charlotte's good, man. And you don't want to believe that. I know it's good for the internet. Yo, act, I know what's good for the stream. I know it's good for the chat niggas. Academics versus Rock Nation. Let's go. Ain't nobody thinking about that, bro.

I'm telling you they're not thinking about that. I'm they not you're sure you're good bro they're not but what I will attempt to do is reach out because I'm all I want peace everybody wants peace this shit is silly you don't think it's silly I do you don't think it's silly that in this hip-hop media space guys like myself you Joe we don't do things I actually everybody's successful like super successful like what's the problem okay I don't And none of us need anything. Well, before you were the problem.

How was that a problem? Before the new two-hondo deal, you weren't trying to, me and Joe have done stuff that I don't know why all that's the fact. Joe, like, Joe going to do shit with me. I see Joe getting the mix. Shawl have been mad selective. One thing I didn't hold him to the carpet with,

but like, you know, we were just talking about too much. Charlotte been only trying to fuck with the losers that he signed on Black Effect. Like, bro, that nigga Loon is a fucking loser. Nobody really gives a fuck about that. Like, Charlie going to be on his shit. I seen Charlotte with two other niggas.

I'm like, they're niggas losers too. Like, bro, Charlotte, you've been, you're the biggest media personality who don't get in the mix with your fucking peers. You're showing up on irrelevant niggas platforms that niggas don't think about. Get in the mix. Get in the fucking feel,

Like, yo, at some point You got to get in the field with your peers Alright, if I think me, you, Joe, we peers, let's get in the feel, let's mix it up. That's how you maintain your status. That's why I think they don't really got Charlemagne no more at the top of the media list.

Not that he probably don't care about it because he worried about other lists, but it's just that, bro, you're talking to irrelevant niggas. It's like you're not in the mix no more. Nigel, like you're too rich. If you're too rich, cool. But just sail on off in the sunset and go, do you.

you're a big one, nigga. Me and Joe, we're over here competitive. Nigger, we, like, we locking in. Like, it shouldn't be a thing where, like, every year, I don't even think, like, oh, is this going to be Charlotte's here? I'm like, all right, Charlotte's going to be talking to a bunch of weird old niggas, and then he's going to have the breakfast club. Okay, what's Joe doing?

It shouldn't be like that. Charlotte got to get in the mix. Mix it up with us, nigger. And it's not, I don't got to be there. You and, man, there was a time that I felt like, I felt I was in the J-Co position, nigga. The J-Cold position is the Cuckseat, nigger. I never want to be in the cuck seat. Never!

You know what the cuck seat is? Number three. Number three is the guy watching number one and two getting it in. Pause. I'm not watching shit. Yo, let's get in the mix. Charlotte took himself out of that spot. Charlotte started fucking with the irrelevant niggas.

All right. Who? I seen Charlotte recently. He ain't want to shout out. Traplore Ross, poetic floco, he didn't want to shout to none of the other big name people. He ain't want to even shout to no jump or nothing. All I heard him say was like, chick smooth. I'm like, bro, no disrespect to chick smooth.

But, nigga, you're not in the mix no more if that's what you all think is popping. I'm watching you sit down on a podcast with that bum-ass nigger. That nigga ain't popping. Okay, and by the way, chick's, I ain't dissing you. I'm just saying, like, there's much more than that. He's trying to, like, create his own world. That's not how it is no more. you gotta mix it up you feel me and that's what i'm saying like i think his moves these days is

powered by business ventures my nigger you know what he was told about oh all these new media niggins start getting at me i ain't tell him he thinks i told him to get at him no nigga you just got the same way how you show me genuine love when i came in a game niggil just because you got business deals now you can't show genuine love i can't even get a sit down with you unless we imagine beef. You're sitting down with irrelevance. Bro, nigga. In Flaco in New York right now, it would be like, and he'd be like, yo, act. Yo, I leave tomorrow. I bet, nigga, I'm going to either be there tonight or in the morning.

I'm doing something with you. Everybody know it. Traplore. It's my nigga. Like, these are people who are up and coming. The same way, and you're going to hear at the end, I'm like, yo, I do feel pressure because everybody else in the media shit, it don't stop with me. I'm supposed to, like, give them shoutouts.

I ain't going to lie to you. I'll even give this thing a shout out, even though I watch his videos a lot. Like, he, not every time. Matter of fact, sometimes he'd be killing me. But I do think he'd be fair. What's this thing of him? And me and Sean Conno, cool.

Shout to Sean Conno. I've seen Sean right here. Shout to Sean. I love his shit. Yo, Sean, me and you got to revisit, like, doing, like, some Shannon Sharp. Yeah, me and Sean doing a Shannon Sharp Ocho shit.

we might have to do it still yo could y'all send that to shaw on shon i love you by the way shon's in a group chat with all of us and that's another thing i was saying about shawl i'm like yo yo all the new media guys have a group chat bro we all have a group chat just fucking just tatting in there bro like

Sean me like i'll be watching for the fuck with you me we got we gotta do some shit like that because you got so much of an independent thought too you're going to provoke me to give like real opinions and engage. Love that. Who's this thing I've been watching recently until? I watch everybody. I watch Flacco.

Flacco's killing it. Killing it. And that's what I was saying to Charlotte. I'm like, yo, Charlotte, you went from being like my OG to now you're like playing like these selective politics according to your business. And I'm like, I get it.

Because you're trying to do deals and shit like that. But I feel like I'm in the position that you used to be in. So now, I'm showing love to everybody, like All of these niggas. But, but, um, what's your thing your name? Who do y'all watch? Y'all name the niggas y'all watch. Oh, this thing right here.

I think, I think I dissed him back in the day. I would even remember. But I've been watching him recently. I've been watching him recently. Low key? Like, he's been having interesting videos and the one thing I kind of do like, oh, no, okay. Is that like his other page?

I don't know. I'll just see your shit pop up with my shit. I like that he talked about streamers He's kind of talking about everybody Yeah yeah yeah Hello you're seen I watch this thing I'm like okay He's a little fair and like I could tell like

Even if he might say something that's not against That's not for me I'm like He's genuinely coming from his perspective on what he see Fuck with it get it whatever Not tripping by the way he's he's not a dick route He's done a video where I seen it recently It was just like

how somebody Oh, Charlemagne finally cooked that Like, I'm not tight, but it's whatever Like I think he's been doing good videos But yeah, no Like in this new media You're gonna, this is the last part of the interview But that's the only like

pressure I kind of feel I'm like I represent the internet Turn into the media turn into the internet era And whether it's a flaco or anybody else And how they do shit they kind of look at me like, ah, damn, I ain't going on line. Like, you did this internet shit first

and you also crossed over with like this other world. And I just want to be an example for them because I'm not going to be the biggest all the time. We're the biggest now. But they're going to bring their platforms up. And I just want to be a good example for them. And, yeah. So, yeah, I'll be watching all these things.

Every day. I watch all these things. Like, I watch all these things. these niggas. And I watch some niggas that's not exactly in hip hop either. Like, I watch a pretty good, good palette of people, honestly. Let me see. I don't really watch stuff on this account. Believe me if I see anyone. But anyway, yeah, I just wanted to say that. Anyway, let's go back. Three of us haven't done stuff at the end of the year. I've already said this. I said this on

Angie Martinez show. I think Charlotte at one point boxed out the rest of the game, bro. That's what, and I got to be honest. I think he boxed out because him and Joe got into it. it. It's not like him and Joe got into it and then him and me would do stuff. Like him and Joe got into it, me and him would talk on the phone, but we never do nothing publicly. You get what I'm saying? And I know he was kicking up his Black Effect stuff, but he was just putting on a bunch of lame-ass niggins. I've got to keep it a bean. Like, yo, other than the established niggas on Black Effect, it's a bunch of lame-ass niggins on there. We got to keep it on it.

I completely understand why Joe was upset with me. Because in hindsight, I realize how much my voice can impact things when it comes to business. If I could go back right now when Joe was going through his shit with Spotify, the conversation I had on air, I would have had to Joe

like we do. Me and Joe used to talk all the time. I would have just said that to Joe. However I felt about his business and how he moves and him and his team moves, I would have said that to him. On air, I would have been like Spotify

y'all need to pay fucking Joe. That's just the reality of the situation. That's what I would have done in hindsight. But listen, we've all done that to each other. We've all grown together in this business. I've known Joe for 20 plus years. Like the first time I met Joe was in fucking Columbia, South Carolina, because he got family and something. He came to the radio station. I was working at Hot 103.9 and we went bowling in all types of dumb shit afterwards and went to the club. Like, that's my, I know him in a real way. So it's like those conversations, things like

I think Charlotte recognizes after kind of seen it. Let me tell you, when niggins started doing this, it's like they recognize a little bit that, bro, your handle on the culture is losing a little bit. And Charlotte, like, I'm telling you, that's a goat. But I think he, like him doing mental health, him trying to do politics, him kind of like trying to do these other stuff, he kind of probably also realizing moments like this,

because I guarantee Charlotte was probably, he probably told Rod Nation. yo ain't nobody going against me for for academics and that thing probably looked up and said what the fuck is going on and probably realizes yeah tap the fuck in nigga like let's yo one charlemagne i i aspire to be like charlemagne on a business level you get what i'm saying like he's doing mogul's shit i even give joe credit in this because joe does joe's built a community and like i know i got a chat nigga community but like he's really he's only caring about his community Like, that's all he does.

But I give both of those guys respect and that. But one thing I'll say, me, when it comes to me, nigga, the current conversation in hip-hop, the current pulse, like granted, sometimes they say that's not the most lucrative thing. Like, it's always going to be me. That's why, I mean, we really only got one topic after, like, I'm done with this, because we're going to do the YB and future shit. But, nigga, I like being in that tapped-in position.

Like that can be, I feel like can be repaired if we need them to be repaired. If not, fuck it. We all good. We go on about our merry way because the reality is none of us need each other. So when I'm saying what I'm saying right now, I'm only saying it because I think that's the right thing for us to do. We got to be a, we got to make a good example for this next generation. Some of that, by the way, some of this next generation I'm not fucking with. There's a lot of people on your side.

I'm never fucking. What do you mean? You're going to have to make a change. No, no. And then change some of them. You did some good people over there, man. That's you did what them lead you to do. ass knickas. Okay.

Now, who is he talking about? Because it's like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Villas. All of them, niggas. Rocksteady's, Bebuff. He wasn't trying to say no name. Shout to all the guys, man. Shout to, shout to what's the dirt. Shout to trap lord.

Shout to flaco. Shout to like, there's a million other pages. I'll be seeing y'all. Like, I watch out too. Like, trust me. You know, of course. But I think Charlotte was pleasantly surprised in the last week where he's like, damn, they would actually do a video and have some

nuance that doesn't fall my wage, just out of respect, because here's the thing. At the end of the day, you're going to see at this end of the interview, I still look up to Charlottameen. Like, you know what I mean? I'm not I didn't just like, I do think that he's a Rotation operative still. But I still do look up to him.

I'm not going to cap. You got to learn a lot from people before you even get there. This is the example. Go look at Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle villains and you're going going to be like, yeah, that do look like my man. Okay, you got a lot of them over there. They all jump me this week. Lock on them.

They all jumped me this week. You're going to have to... I'll go a good guy. But by the way, as you evolve... Listen, listen. They got a lot of influences for me. I got influences for me. Listen, we...

We should all be able to find. As you evolve, so will they. Guaranteed. Same thing with me. As I evolve, so will other people in the culture. If we're the leaders in this space, let's really lead. Like, let's show people...

Even when it comes... I'm only bringing it back. When it comes to even people like, Jay and Rock Nation. Man, that's a 30-year career. That's somebody we watch go from just a rapper to being one of the, you know,

multimedia moguls, richest black people on the planet. He's literally the richest musician. A rapper is the richest musician. You don't get a Drake, a Kendrick, a Cole, Kanye, any of those guys who have the aspirations they have now without that bar being set. And it's something that I had to learn.

I learned this a long time ago, I'm not tearing that down. I know for a fact that there was a lot of OGs. When I first got on a breakfast club, I was like, fuck everybody. I tore down a lot of legacies, are shitting on a lot of legacies, and that makes us as a culture look fucked up. Do you have the same opinion of that with Kanye? Yes, 100%. The thing that disappoints me about Kanye is Kanye did that to himself.

Kanye made a lot of self-inflicted choices that didn't have to happen. So that's what hurts me about Kanye. Kanye is one of the most saddest stories to me ever, because Kanye would have been the new bar. If Kanye would have kept on the trajectory, he was going music-wise and the way he infiltrated the world of fashion, you know how hard it is to get people to wear your sneakers and you don't got no jump shot? You don't run no ball.

I agree with that. And he had everybody, all races, all ages, everybody. At least you're giving them that chance to, you know, at the end of this interview, By the way, there's like 20 minutes left, you're going to see Charlotte exhibit something that I believe that Jay should exhibit. This interview to me by the time we got to the end with Charlotte realizing that no matter how great he is, and he is great. Charlotte is one of the greatest media personalities of all time. He realized that there was a generational change start happening in media and that even he needed to humble himself in a way where he's like, yo, I need to tap in a little bit more. and, you know, for what people look up to me for,

I should try to use it to better shit. And that's the difference between him and Jay. Jay's not doing that. Jay's still trying to just dictate and just like, no. If anything, you know what, you see what this convo was? This is what Jay needs to do. Jay should have been like, figure out whatever that's with him and Drake or Nikki and go deal with that behind the scenes.

And then pop back out with both of them. him. That's the J move. This J shit where he's just rapping a bunch of bullshit on stage. He's looking weird. Like, nigga, you're 60, gang. You're not good. You can't compete no more. You can't compete with Nick.

You can't compete with Drake. Bro, what you're supposed to do is the OG. Whatever wrongs you did, whatever wrongs they did, nigga, you're going to handle that shit because they do love you. They do look up to you because you're Jay. I do love Shalerman. I do look up to him. But not if you're going to be on some shit like.

Because you know what it is? At the end of the day, Drake is like, nigga, I got the people now. You don't got the people now. I don't care how many people show up to Yankee Stadium.

Them niggas is not going to dictate what's going on to hip-hop now. Drake is. Nicky is. Yay is. So what you do is what Charlemagne did. All right, Brett, let me try to repair my relationship with acting,

blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I can move. That's what I'm saying Jay needs to do. Jay, I don't care what freestyle you spit, nigga like bro they ignored your ass because they felt you as a bozo if you if you holler that drake though i don't know but i think jake might be receptive and like whatever your issues are fix it nigger whatever your issues with with nicky is fix it have them at least be like you know what yeah me and home was in a bad place but we're not in a bad place now bro you're never

gonna win by going against the current you can't win just figure it out Charlotte just gave you the blueprint. Charlotte could have been on some shit like, I will fuck, act. I don't want to sit down with him. I was cool off of not having a sit down last week. You ain't see how shit been going? I've been good.

But you know what you know what? You know what did that? Smart? Yo, act, come on, man. Like, yo, nigga, what am I going to say? Of course, like, I got respect for, like, what he's done like shit because I learned a lot from him. I guarantee Drake does have some respect for Jay.

for what he's done maybe not for recent actions nigger figured that out but figure it out privately or figure it out and you know the best thing imagine if Jay had popped out with Drake rapping a song over nigga

what you think you can't turn people on Drake it never happened you can't even turn people on Nikki you can't turn people on yeah you're not the guy no more you could only do that when you're the guy And when you were the guy, they were non-factors. That's the end of my advice. But of course, a Rot Nation, all they're going to do is play police games.

By the way, they sent two takedown notice to Twitter that Reed Smith, whatever, like, company. Jay, you got to, let me tell you this. You got to fire Desiree Perez. She's a bozo. She's not cultural. She's a fucking rat. She doesn't understand that your cultural equity, yes, you're one of the greatest musicians, but your cultural equity is because niggas have looked up to you and they feel like

a fuck with you. She moves like a legal pawn. She moves like a Karen. She dispatches lawsuits. She dispatches, she dispatches law firms to get at people. That's not hip hop, gang. So, like, nobody is trying to, like, give you the benefit of the doubt. You got to fire her.

I'm telling you the truth. I know she helped you a mad shit. Either fire her. or take her powers. Because this is what I'm telling you. It's not a me thing. It's not a grand wizard thing. Your PR will never be good when you think...

It's not even you because I think you're old as fuck. Niggins she thinks that she could use legal maneuvers to actually control shit. It's only getting worse. Trust me. Jay-Z. You need to either demote her from CEO or get Desiree Perez out the way.

She's a fucking moron. You don't deal with shit like how it's been going on by literally saying if you like put it like this. Somebody does a documentary about Jay Z and it's some not good shit. She files 20 copyright strikes saying you use the picture from his blueprint photo shoot. Because they want it down. Corny. What do you think that's going to stop the internet? You got to be old as fuck if you think that's going to stop it.

That's not how you stop. You know how you stop it? At least Charlamagne was a little smart. Yo, let me go holl at him. Let's sit in front of each other. Let's try to show people we're not enemies. So I'm telling you right now, Jay-Z going to keep getting belt

because he hired a fucking rat as his goddamn CEO and I'm telling you it's all coming from her. I don't even think he's coming from Jay-Z, nigga. Nick, because I can see how they, yo, Grand hit me two days ago. Yo, Ack, we got a strike. Could you check who was from?

Rod Nation. Read Smith LLP. They copyright struck a future flyer for Jay-Z because the tweet was gaining, it was going viral, and the caption wasn't favorable to Jay-Z, but he used his flyer. They copyrighted. Like, bro, you think that's going to stop, niggins? Like, yo, you're dumb. But anyway, it's all good.

Like, again, at the end of the day, these people are fighting history. They're fighting the future. You can't fight the future. Because it don't matter what AI websites y'all make up, it's never going to work. Y'allelmaid's a big up an AI website. That's just not going to work. Nick, it got exposed today. Y'all either going to have to deal with the real people,

and if it's not me, it's going to be a nigga after me. But we'll see. You know, because I think he's going through a plight right now where he's trying to write some of his wrongs and also kind of rewrite history that the last page on the book is, and, yo, they just wiped him out with the history books. I called one of Kanye's, man. a couple months ago, and I say, yo, I said,

I think I'm gonna reach out to, yeah, yo. Just because I wanted to see where he was mentally and emotionally. That's it. I don't need nothing from him. I just want to reach out and see where his head at. You know what, this is one of his man's. His man said, wait a minute. Let's see how he acts when his album comes out. Meaning, he thought that Kanye was going to come out with his album

and be up to his usual antics, wilding on people, shitting on people, on people, shitting on people, dissing people. He said, just wait and see. And so we waited to see. And I haven't reached out, but he's clearly found some new form of peace. I think so. So I'm all about, you know, yeah, man, like, let's put our arm around that brother. You know, he's, he got to repair a lot of relationships, right?

Not the black community, the Jewish community, but he got to do that. He got to go out there and do the work. But, yes, that's a sad tale. I don't want to see the legacy of kindness. Kanye West ruined, but that's something that I had to learn. I shitted on a lot of people's legacy, especially older rappers because they weren't hot like they used to be anymore. That don't got nothing to do with what they did.

Because we see it now, all these older rappers can make so much money off their catalog. We should both hope that we create bodies of work that when we're in our 50s close to 60, we can still eat off. We're going to have this same conversation in about three, four, four. years, whenever fucking, what was Drake's first shit called? I left you home or some shit. So far gone. That's the first one?

So far gone. When So Far Gone is 20, Drake's going to be celebrating that. And he should. He should celebrate 20 years in the game of your first project that put you in position. And nobody should be shitting on that. Hopefully there's not some new streamer who's like, fuck Drake. And that's going to happen. It's always going to be that.

It's always going to be that. But it shouldn't be. It don't have to be. Because some of this shit is like screaming into the, it's like screaming into the ethos. Nobody's hearing you anyway, bro. He's too big. But it's part of the right of passage.

There's going to be a time that a media person is going to be like this old nigga act is out of the way. And that's normal because they have to own their generation. I do believe that's always a thing. Like there's going to be a time when the niggis own his generation. that if his generation ain't get enough credit, he's going to have to be like,

man, fuck this nigga act, like, this old-ass nigga, like, still think it's a Drake type of thing. Nah, fuck that. We ain't on that no more. I think that's normal. It's normal to me. Can I tell you, can I, can we talk? They got to own their generation.

And by the way, I'm going to understand it. I anticipated it happening, and it's supposed to happen. Because the thing is, while Jay is going to be nostalgia for a lot of people, Jay can't own it. this generation. He's not trying to. There's an old New York Times interview where Jay Z says, you're only that one high, you're only that white hot person wants. After that is just about

being consistent. After that is just about longevity. And he's absolutely right. What was that for him, you think? Huh? When was that for him? Jay? Yeah. I would say hard knock life volume, uh, what the one? Yeah, hard knock life. When the hard knock life out. came out. Hard Knock Life, when he dropped, it's a hard knock life. That's when he sold 5 million records. That's when he went on, did the Hard Knock Life tour, he took DMX out, Red Man, Mephamen. That's when he was red hot. That's when he was at his peak. That's the most albums he ever sold. And by way, that's where I think, I think that's healthy conversation. Like, we are going to, we do with LeBron and Michael, right? We do it like, all right, look at LeBron's

that's compared to Michael. That's where I've seen a lot of discussion initially start from. And I like that because I do believe when we put Jay Z stats on the paper and we put drinks stats on the paper, I could see, I see why most people like, in my opinion, I'm like, I don't think they really compare. But also I know I know other people would be like, nah, you have to be there. And obviously it's a change in the times, but it always has to be that for a different generation. You know what I mean? Like, Chad, I'm going to tell you this.

There's going to be immediate personality that I'm going to. going to be big dog and if part of clearing away they might have to be like fuck act because this is a new wave a new generation i'm gonna be disagreeing with certain shit that they do and how they rock and who they like and they're gonna be like nah nigger like yo nigga you're just old you're done like you're you're just yo rep your error and move on that's going to happen so so when y'all be like yo that even when like wain don't mention no nash no nizs no nizs no Y'all niggas is time trapped. I know what's going on.

Y'all time trapped in a different era. I know for this era and as soon as there's another era, there's going to be a nigga who's going to say to me. And when he say to me, nigga, like, you know what I'm a dude? Like, I bet. Let me just focus on my shit and try to work within that or adjust. But this idea that, yo, part of a new rapper coming in is kind of telling the other generation,

nigga, fuck y'all niggas. When Wayne came in. how Wayne start rapping Wayne start rapping like man y'all thing is on Jay Z dick name I'm the new one you kind of got to do that to let people and signal to people

like it's changing the times but where are supposed to be to people that tell folks better like when so far gone comes out and that shit's 20 years old you lived it I lived it if somebody by the way I think room for improvement is 20 years old

that's the first mixtape ever I think it's 2007 In 2006? Yeah. He tries the shit on it. You're going to be the first person like, nah, bro, you bugging. Whoever little MC such and such is that's out right now. He wasn't hot as Drake in whatever year that was.

Like, nah, you wasn't around for that Drake run. That Drake run was crazy. That's how we are with Jay because we lived it. And I feel like we're supposed to be that as leaders in this space. We're supposed to be the ones that tell the story. Like, I always see them give you flat. flat because when you when you when you when you're when you're like damn i didn't know jzy rope still dray again you know it's funny i just don't care about that crowd to like

whatever i didn't give you flag for that because i understand that people learn new things all the time and you learn new things and it makes you look at things and be like damn you know what if it was drake i'd be wilded right like if it was something like yo you ain't know drake did whatever i'd be wild jz my nigga i'm gonna be honest i just think it's inconsequential What? See, we got two different algorithms. They kill you for that all the time. They kill you for discovering something.

There's nothing wrong with discovering things. You know what's so funny about that clip? I knew he wrote it. Like, that's clip for it. Like, I'm not, I'm talking about Jane a certain tone. I'm not giving them that much crap. I don't believe me. I don't believe you need more.

As a wise man once said, we don't believe you need more people. All right, but here's the thing. I don't even care to clear it up because those people who think that that's not even my target them. I don't give too fuck about what they said. So like that was, to me, you got to stop talking like you don't have a birthday.

No, you're not getting what I'm saying. I'll never be the biggest media personality with Jay Z fans. Like, I'm going to always be the king of the Drake, the Kendricks, the whatever, even though I'm not saying necessarily with Kendrick audience, but like that's the error that me

as the media personality dominated. So when niggas is telling me about Nas and Jay-Z and DMX nigga, I'll give my opinion but I don't give a fuck if y'all think I'm the officiant or not. Like, I'm intertwined in, from

Drake and Meekstar beefing up till now. That's 10 years. Like, I'm mentioned by pretty much every consequential rapper. So, like, when niggins told my like, Jay-Z, I don't care. Like, who gives a fuck? Like, that's not my error. Like, who gives a

Those people aren't like my I relate to the people you know those those media people you said oh they were killing me this week yeah that's that's my ilk and whoever who tunes into that ecosystem I don't care like that other ecosystem I'm never going to tap into and by the way maybe the ecosystem after me you don't know that because when they'll never respect when I give charmedman a little bit of credit with this I thought about it I was Like, yeah, you never know. When I'm 60, I might want to talk about hip hop, not just only one era. So I might want to talk about this Drake-Kendrick-Co era. And I do want to talk about the 50 era.

And I do want to talk about the, you know, and I feel like I do still talk about the Tupac. Like, that's just a historic era. But like even the DMX, EminemJ era. Like, yeah, no, no, I get that. It's just I'm not there right now. When academics is not on bullshit. and he's actually being an observer of the culture and, like, really talking about music,

I can listen to you all day and be like, all right, yeah, I see that. Like, when the Drake Kendrick shit was happening before it turned into, we got to pick a side, and it was just about music, I don't think there was anybody more entertaining to listen to than you. That's just my personal opinion. But that is you actually being a person

that's a fan of culture and the music, and the shit that we should be discussing. It's when we start getting on all this personal shit, which I've learned the hard way. All I'm ever trying to get y'all to do is not make the same mistakes that I made. And I want you... You see what I've done, right?

You've seen it from the very beginning. And at this point, a lot of mistakes, you've made your career in one way or another when it comes to me. I remember having a conversation with you. 15 years ago, would you ever think I'd be on the front of a Forbes? Be honest. Yeah, I did.

Yeah. No, Charlie, you was Howard Stern back then. You see, that's the thing with Charlotte. No matter what's going on, I've acknowledged that. Let me say this. There's a few. When it comes to this microphone, to this day, I still look at me and I say, if I was on the, if I was on the mic with Charlemagne in his prime,

with Star in his prime, are they eat me up paws or am I like am I like trading jabs with them them niggas is legends bro like them to me when I listen to them I'm like yo these niggas trust me to this day

and so when he says that I always knew that Charlemagne he was always really crazy but he wasn't a crash star's a crash out like ain't nobody really got more talented star but he's a crash out.

Like he's, he's like, someone's like, Tack Stone. Like, he'll, he'll get arrested for saying some dumb shit. Charlotte is going to do all of that, but not go the extra mile. But he's still funny, so whatever. Those two has always been like, you know,

whatever. Now, Charlotte, every time I talk to Charlott, Cheryl was always kind of like, he always kind of like framed that discussion in terms of shock jocks. I don't know if necessarily all the time. There was some shock jock stuff that Star did, but, yo, Star's amazing, my nigga, like,

yo, Star's a guy, I'm telling you, stars a nigga you could listen to for, remember I came in this game, nobody knew my face. So it's the same thing with radio. To be on this microphone right here, this shit right here, when nobody's seen your face,

and people could listen to you and just their mind has to create whatever you're saying is amazing. These two guys to me is like, they're one of the best. By the way, Joe's up there too, course like Joe's a different monster but like Joe has a cheat code Joe has been a rapper not in terms of clout but Joe Joe's word play is beyond anything these are the people when I listen to like

when I listen to the you know shout to you know ice is shout to the queen's flip I'll even say rare one but I'll say shout to even mark whatever um even a crack at Mona on um Joe Bun podcast when I listen to Joe Bunn podcast, I listen for Joe, Joe's a wordsman. I used to do a show called Everyday Struggle with Joe and study even him. I study Charlemagne.

I study, like, these are people, I don't have no problem in a minute and I study. Like, these things are good things that are great. You feel what I'm saying? And, yeah, to answer, to kind of double down on that point, I always felt that Charlemagne was going to be, he was definitely the black Howard Stern for me

so when he says do you think I would ever be on the cover of Forbes I'm like early on I thought the media personality was bigger than the rapper and bigger than not more famous than bigger than because it's a bigger brand because you would last longer average rapper's lifespan would be like four or five years you're not a legendary media personality if you have to span 10 so you already have to double a rapper's time to even be considered in the same legendary thing

a legendary rapper could do five, six years to me you're not a legend in media until you did 10 and that's why I always thought that he was going to be up there with the Howard Sterns yeah how we never saw that we never saw no hip-hop we never saw hip-hop media personality

No, because I still believe to a certain extent, without a few exception, media is bigger than the rapper. It's the reason why all the rappers are now streaming. Media always outlast the rapper. A average rapper run, they're done in five to six years. Not in our space. And me and you have had these conversations before. A lot of times, man, especially when you're a shock job,

you look up and you think you can go farther, but you don't realize it's a glass seal in there. So there's a lot of people that I used to get a lot of inspiration from. The version of me that I was, I was definitely inspired by the shock jocks that came before me. But I saw how they ended. I saw the plane, laying, and the wheels didn't come out. They also weren't as smart business-wise as you left.

You figured out ways to kind of pivot and leverage that they might not have done. But you got to allow yourself to grow and evolve. And also one of the things, and this is why even like even this week, you know, I was proud of one thing. Not that you were getting attacked. But I remember watching you during your, like, I don't know what I'm called prime, but it's like, there's a bunch of people you had an ilk. I'm like, yo, these are people that are like, Charles. Yeah, there was a time Shawman was surrounded by a lot of media personality who kind of ate off the fruit of his tree. you got the Angela Rye's you have the tax stones you have the Dices in Miro

you had a bunch of those people and I ain't gonna lie shit has changed a bit Dises and Miro irrelevant tax stone lifer Angela Rye I haven't seen her in years All they don't even got to say nothing this motherfucker is gonna say some this person And it was clearly people who was just inspired by your greatness or who were friends with you or whatever But they were in the in the business with you and I was just like you you got to be so great that there's going to be offshoots of you that are going to always rock with you. And to certain extent, even bring it back to Jay.

I don't believe everybody on some page shit if they defend Jay, right? I do think certain people, Jay is so great that, of course, they're going to be endearing to whatever he has going on. They're going to be like, nah, what are you talking about, you know? And for me, I've always tried to find that. And I'm like, I think these days, you know, online,

I see a lot of people who are there on YouTube channel, or they stream or they just put out short videos. A lot of them, you know, at first, I remember, like, even this one guy, me and him, a lot of people like, he sounds just like you. And I remember I almost caught myself, like, with the audience, like, nah, check him real quick. And then I remember me and you had that conversation.

And, you know, lo and behold, one of the greatest things I did was embrace him. But tell him what I told you. I said, I said, act, you need to find your own voice. I said, because right now you're trying to sound like me and you're trying to sound like this other person. I said, but when you find your own voice, you're going to be out of here. And that's what I really meant, because I didn't want you to be a second-rate version

of anybody. But you know what I learned bigger than that and even with like, even people that came after me to, is that a lot of times when you've seen someone come up, There's no real blueprint out of doing this shit. So people copy the best thing out. I agree. I agree. And they copy or at least are influenced by the shit that's working the most.

And you always got to give people grace. I remember Quincy Jones had this one saying where it's like, you know, most, so my musicians, he says most start playing like someone else before they actually find their own pocket. And yeah, I think, I don't think, I don't think that's the case anymore. more with me and you. And even the person I'm talking about, too, I think they're a lot of little want to be used. You know what I'm saying? I hear a lot of people that be trying to sign.

Oh, really? You know what I mean? But listen, here's the thing. I don't, I never give advice, and you know this. I don't tell you anything that hasn't happened to me. Everything I'm telling you is just based off experience. And there's a lot of narrative that I see that I don't like. Like, I hate when people be like,

yo, Shalda may be trying to sun academics. How about ever tried to son you at? Well, I can understand why they would say it. They only say that because they're a position that they look at me in. And then when I'm talking to you, we're always having conversation. You've given and to be fair. Yeah, and I had a little context to that. I've always said, respectfully, Charlotte got,

Charlotte has been to many rooms before I got there. Pause. I give an example. When I was doing my Spotify deal, Charlotte, who was going to stay with a breakfast club, he was approached by Spotify before they came to me. And Charlotte told me what they offered them. I respected that.

I did. He told me, he said, yo, act, they want me to leave the breakfast club. They want me to come to Spotify. This is what they offered me. That would be the money for me to basically go do the breakfast club on Spotify. I'm letting you know that you could do what you need to do to get your situation. And I appreciate that. I thought that's sincere.

You don't got to tell me that. Fair, you've given advice in terms of, you've called me in moments where other people fucked them to say act. So what I was telling you, got to avoid this. And I've always appreciated that. You've also called in moments and be like, act. Yo, right now you're killing, but you've got to make that more. It's also inspiration, right?

So like, I told you that during the Drake Kendrick shit. I was like, yo, act, now was the time for you to make your pivot. I literally said that to you. I said, that shock jock shit you was doing, fuck all that. is where people want to see you at. Like, you could be doing this, breaking the music, you know. Because I learned about so many new artists

from you back in the day. All them do they never had tattoos on their face and they dredge was this long. The oozy verse, the young boys. I didn't know any of them, but they used to be on your shit back in the day. I said, you should make that pivot right now. And I think that this,

that's what I feel like even this conversation is about. I think this is a pivotal moment even for you. Like, you can decide to say, you know what? I'm a pivot. My only retort to that is that, let me tell you this. And I think this is where this conversation lies for me.

This conversation is a bigger conversation needs to be had. That's why I said I would rather more a roundtable because... Tell me what the conversation is. The conversation, hip-hop is hip-hop, hip-hop, media and fandom is broken. Everybody, this is sides. And it's whack. It's our fault, though.

I think it's our fault, though. It's our fault and the artist's fault. Not necessarily. But the artists don't talk. So being that the artists don't talk, let's talk. Like right now, people think this is a Jay-Z versus Drake thing because it's me and you. That's weird.

The artist put something in the air where the fans are battling it out. Put it like this. They never used to be like that, though. Yeah, but I'm going to give you an example. I'm going to use dance-hall culture. People are so shocked these days. Bives Cartel served a long time in jail. He's now doing concerts with his biggest rival.

Not a killer, right? No, Mavado. Mavado, okay. Kids used to go to school and argue over it and people are getting stabbed. It was so, it appeared so serious. What I think both artists did was that they realized that their moment of even the biggest beef in that culture, it elevated the culture, even elevated them. Not only as years past, but they had to squash it too for people to kind of look at it like,

I get it. That's your favorite. That's my favorite. I do think that Drake and Kendrick, as long as they're at odds, you're going to have that divide. These are the two guys with the biggest audience, and it starts with them. Like, people know that- It could just be rap, though. Meaning if we, the media figures, didn't act like it was something.

Now, I'm not, I really think it's the rappers. It's the rappers. You got Kendrick, Kendrick has made it where his fans feel like, Drake and what he represents is some bad shit. And Drake fans, and Drake, too, has made it seem like Kendrick is, and what Kendrick fans represents bad shit. It's not going to be, it's not going to be whatever. Anything else?

I think that the audience would also be like, oh, that's just, that's just rap. No, but even the, but even, yeah, the media, too. The media guys have picked their side. They're like, you could tell who's clearly on, on Kendrick's side or who clearly is endearing to Drake. But it starts from the artists. Like, the artists aren't kind of making it seem like, all right, this was just sport.

They're making it seem like, like, this is really Tupac and Biggie. Yeah. They are kind of making it. So that trickles down. So that's why we, as media figures, got to know how to move. And I wanted, me and you were going to talk way before this past week. But when you get online and you start talking about, oh, you know, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm going to go personal.

I'm going to start talking about people's families and blah, blah, blah. I didn't say that. I said, when I'm into it with people, like that dude, Rory or whatever, he pulled up to my house and dropped him in my mailbox. Yeah, I posted him and his child at, that's personal. My point is. When they were saying about you, I'm like, trust me, me and Charlemagne, it's not what you're thinking it is because when it gets there with me and anybody, I am going to the two-ball. But this is my point. And I just got to say this clear.

When conversations start getting like that, it's like, oh, you and that going to meet up, drop the low. No. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying? No, Jay's probably right. Yo, y'all got a little hair student back there. No, no.

Yo, Jack, I think Jay was trying to drop. Stand up. But no, my point is, it's like, that's, but those are the stupid conversations that happened. I don't want an inbox full of academics shit. You understand what I'm saying? People say, yo, I have to do it. I don't care about none of that.

I'm like, listen, I don't. I don't give a fuck about none of that. Like, I know that guy. Me and that guy are gonna sit down and we gonna have a conversation. You know what I'm saying? And the world is gonna see, them two dudes ain't got no fucking issue.

Cause I don't- No, I agree this is necessary, right? And that's what I'm saying. If the rappers could- All I heard all week, you know, that's not your friend. Act not your friend. That ain't your boy. I don't know why y'all be,

you act like that's your guy. You hear how you talking about you? You must be tapped into my phone, that's what I heard. You see what I'm saying? And that's silly to me. They don't know the conversation that you and I be having.

They just don't know that. But I think now that they do, so what are we going to do from this moment on? How are we going to pivot to use our individual platforms and influence to just make this whole landscape better? Because I think we can't. And I'm down to make the round. Like I said, I'm down to go, yo, Joe,

let's sit down and have that conversation, whether it's just me and Joe, me, you and Joe, whoever it is. Like, yeah, media-wise, I really feel like it kind of got to feel like how it probably felt years ago where everybody's just kind of in the mix. It's not these days I have to tell- All the white boys doing it. Right. The Rogans and the Theo Bonds and the, what's some other dude's names, Alex, Andrew to

an extent, like they're all doing it. What do we do? You know what I'm saying? Hey, listen, I'm- What are we doing? Hey, listen, I've always had a, you know, a good rapport with pretty much all important people in the meeting. The ones that are, yeah, but all, you have to stop. I want you to stop having that mentality.

Who? What? That's coming from a place of trauma because of how people used to treat you. What do you mean? When you say all of the important people, like, don't look at folks like that. Because when you was on to come up and you... No, no, no, no, I'm never talking about, I'm never talking about my niggas who's coming up in the game.

I'm talking about some of the niggas who've been off for like 20 years who used to shun, shun people like me. I'm talking about them. I'm talking about Rosen dweeb. I'm talking about Ebro. That's irrelevant. Who's at Rutgers during college radio, and you wanted an interview.

You said you reached out to mad people. The only person that hit you back was me. Yeah. And those people not being tapped in, I'm just merely mentioning that that's why they're not prominent voices. But you being a big dog, you should always pay it for. Because you don't know who that next act going to be. No, of course.

No, of course. No, forward. I'm talking about like some of these. these guys who... Dinosauri. Like the Rosen Bums. I'm talking about them. That's different.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about them. But we're like, no, going forward, like, I'm going to be honest with you, like, when they, when when Complex said, okay, you're the number one guy, you know, who, it's, that list is only as important as what everybody thought about the list. What I, I think it was the second time they put me one or whatever, what I felt this time was much different than the first. I felt I was like, I can't have the happy to be here a moment anymore.

And then I started. I know, I don't know if I'm struggling to explain it, but the first time they, they appointed me as number one on that list, right? I was like, yo, I feel like so much conversation has been, yo, is act hip hop. Is he whatever? Da, da, da. So it was one of those like, all right, good. Like, I'm kind of like, all right, niggies now know I'm, these are my peers.

I'm in the league, and this year I won a championship. When I got number one this year, I didn't feel that no more. I didn't feel like I had to be number one ever again. That's why I got everything. I need to get over my chest when I was number one at first time. I then felt that I was looking at the Traplow Rosses, the Flacos, like the other new creators, and I was just like, yo, they're taking a similar path to me. the pressure on me is how do I be the person who's pushing it forward for them

who's being the voice that you know like when they do these lists nowadays they're still like giving some of the same traditional people like the look there's a lot of great people on YouTube that's coming up like in a realm or route that I did that I'm like they're not so I'm like I feel pressure for that I'm like you got to keep pushing the line for your people. That's how you got on, nigga. Like, so you can't just be happy with being on the list by yourself, even if you're number one. How are you number one on the list? And Traplow don't get on a list. Like, Placo don't get on the list. There's a lot of other people. These people you listen to, you don't listen to this other shit. Like, they gave a list and they bring people,

I don't listen to them, niggas. So that's where I feel the pressure out. I'm like, yo, I either got to help elevate these people or I got to help push the line to be, like this is where new media is living. Y'all got to tap in. Tap in over here. So that's my pressure, right? Like, you know, it's, bro, at this point, I'm the only person who got put on that list twice. Only person. So I could be like, oh, I'm good already. Like, you know, I'm the first person of two championships. I'm good. But now I'm looking at, I'm like, well, if I'm on the list, I can't just be happy that I'm competing with Joe and Charlemagne and, like, what was it, Vlad? And no, I got to be like, Yo, what happened to the, I always told people this.

When y'all get rid of me, there's a thousand more of me coming. And there is a thousand. They're there already. So me, the pressure I feel like for next year, I want to see more representation of people like me. That's it. Just give me like five of them. Five, ten. I really wish half the list was people like me.

Like, that's kind of in my realm. I bet. We're good. I don't like when they just take me. and be like, oh, yeah, act is kind of crossed over because they're not acknowledging the route I take. Okay, that's it. Because you're in it.

Like, you know, there was a time that I was just like, yo, I'm happy to be mentioned among people. Gotcha. This time I felt responsibility. I'm like, yo, there's a lot of people who they're running their race right now and they look at you to be like, I'm doing it this route that acted it. And that made me feel like, okay, I got a lead with some, You know, I said it.

I said on stream, I said, man, I got to do better because I do know that there's a bunch of people who are looking at me and I'm their blueprint. And I looked at a bunch of people and I looked at them. That's the biggest thing. Man, when I was watching Charlemagne, I was trying to do every blueprint. There was up until 2015, 2016, I was trying to get to radio. I was trying. You know what I mean? So I know people looking at me as a blueprint.

And I want to make sure that if you spend the last. last two years of your life kind of like, oh no, I look up to ACCO, I fuck with ACCO, I'm trying to model my content like him, that you know that my greatness ain't going to be just like me being who I am, but I'm going to open a lane. That's my thing. That's the pressure. I got to open a lane. I got to kick doors open. I got to open a lane for somebody who's going to come, and he's going to be greater than me. He's going to be, it's going to be probably a mix of me and a Kaisen that type, nigga. He's going to be like the biggest, but he love hip hop. And I want to make sure that when that person gets acknowledged, when he's doing his speech, he's like, yo. And last but not least,

man, shout to act, man. Like, you, I grew up watching him. Like, he kind of gave me, you know, I mean, some tips or whatever. Like, he inspired me to get here. That'll be good. I'll be 60. I'll be fucking just talking to, like, you know, I still be talking to y'all. But of course, you know, again, you can't be the most relevant always. So, and I'll be happy. I'll be happy. So that's only the pressure I feel. When they were doing that thing to be like, all right, whatever you do and whatever,

how you carry that, that, you know, that position is how I think I need to carry myself to get there and go somewhere else. So, you know, that's the only thing where I kind of look at because I do see a lot of people. You feel pressure? Yeah. You should. You should. No, no.

And, um, because, because whether you're, yeah, I feel pressure because I don't want me, like, my career to be kind of like finished or like not finished, but like, five, 10 years from now, niggas says, yo, academic, like, I do think I'm a one-on-one. But, nigga, I always thought I was trailblazing. I always thought I was trailblazing for a generation. I don't want nobody to be like, yeah, nah, but act the only one who could get there. Nah, nigger, I want everybody who has ever watched an academics video who got inspired by me, who, listen, whether you're a clipper now and eventually you kind of parlay that into like you being a creator. I want you to be like, nah, act help open up that lane for us.

I'll fuck with that, nigga. Number one are not next year or the next year from now. I don't care about being number one. I just care about the lane because I feel like they've been stoned. this title of you help create this lane. And that's the pressure. Being a leader in the lane. As long as you're still doing what you're doing?

No, not pressure with that. I feel pressure with, I mean, I get on the phone with a lot of these guys a lot. And I remember you getting on the phone with me. So like when they're picking my brain and shit like that and like, and I'm trying to help them navigate, I'm always, I'm always trying to make sure I'm giving them the best advice. but also that they're looking at me and be like, all right, he's still setting the bar. You get what I'm saying?

You'll always be the bar. If I don't do what, probably one of the biggest fears is not becoming or doing what I think that guy who is trying, who's going to represent that shift. Because after me, I know where a lot of media shit's going. Like, I don't want to be the person who's like, yo, yeah, I did it.

Like, no disrespect to social, but I ain't trying to be the soldier. Like, nah, it sounds like I'm dissing. I don't want to be the person like, nah, I'm the first nigga who did this, but nobody gives a credit. Right? Like, in a sense, when it comes to like,

even some shit was streaming, they do it now, but I don't, I didn't really trailblaze streaming for streaming. I might have did it for hip-hop. But when it comes to hip-hop media, I know I'm trailblazing the shit. So that's what I'm saying,

I don't want niggots to be like, where I got to be like, yo, no, I was the first nigga who Nah, I want niggas to be like, yo, man. It's like when niggas told my IRL or like, you know, dating streams. Niggas do dating streams or e-dates. You can't mention that lane without saying, man, shout to rice gum.

Like that niggum was on that. See? That, if you understand that, you understand me. If I don't set the bar up, okay, this is where I need to go. It's either going to be just a lost generation of media people, or there's going to be somebody else that says, this will actually have done. Well, my bar is not even hip-hop media no more.

My bar hasn't been that for probably the last five, six years. I don't even think it's just politics. I don't even think it's just a political person. I'm just a grown-ass man who paid attention to things that go on in the world. You know, I would rather shine that light on somebody like Angela Rye, using the platform to shine that light on, you know, people like a Tesla and figure role. Respectfully, I haven't seen Angela Ryan in like three years. Like, I haven't seen that.

But, you know, I think that's a byproduct of the Democrats not being in power. Like, you don't see people like that when Democrats ain't in power. And I mean, even Martin Lamont Hill, who's, I believe, is a Democrat. Bro, he's on Joe Bunn's podcast. Like, we haven't seen a lot of these, like, Democrat political pundits in a while. And I don't know if we're going to, maybe we see them after Trump gets out of office. But I haven't seen it. I used to see Andrew Rye everywhere.

I don't see her nowhere now. Or, you know, whoever that political pundit may be in that space. Like, I don't, that's not even, that's not. something I want. That's just something that happened, you know? But I'm looking at media titans that are doing things across all landscapes, the movies, the television shows, you know, podcasting is all world, the books, the audio books. Like, that is the type of content I'm looking to create. These new micro dramas, it's like, yo, do you really want to be the person that's just talking all day? Like, that can't be the only content we create.

It can't be the only content we create. It's so many different ways, though. Like, When I look at you, I feel like, okay, I'll use you and Joe. Like, I feel like you, there's a lot of top-level business stuff that I think you are putting your tentacles in that that does help the overall situation. Absolutely. And then when I look at Joe, I think I'm not gonna lie to you. Like, I just talked to him a couple days ago. I said, man, you know, the way that you have kind of, you have kind of, of, you know, you're helping reinvent the, once you have that solid foundational audience,

you just need to build your city. Because I also kind of believe that he's built his city. And like, I could tell like he probably doesn't care for certain stuff. Like, you know, I mean, maybe if Netflix hit him up, he would get, well, I don't think he cares. I think he's like, give me, he's always wanted that, though, but that's his personality. And then I even think of myself and I'm like, I feel like I'm navigating some of these new spaces where, you know, I remember my agent hit me up and he said something about like a deal.

And how about Oren? Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Oren. And I haven't been the most interested in it because like I do feel like a lot of the things I'm doing is like... How many times have I talked to Oren about you? True. No, you have.

And about things that I think you should be doing. Yeah. don't know that. I agree. But I did. So where I got to also with the deal stuff, man, most of them deals didn't feel sweet after the headline went away. Like, it was no hype because in reality, like, I'm truly in the place of I don't think

there's a deal that could really fulfill me beyond just the headline and everybody posts and the deal doesn't do it for me anymore. I get it. That makes sense. And I also finally got past the point. of I felt like I need to stand next to a big brand. When I was Spotify, that was it. Like, I took less money from, from, I took a,

I think I took them either a milk per year, but I took a definitely a meal less to go with Spotify over Apple. And for me, I seen Joe Golden. I was just like, yo, that's the ultimate cost. I'm leaving everyday struggle. Like, shit, this is, this, shit. And how I think my career,

is going, I need them to stand next to me. And like now, it's like, I don't feel that anymore. Listen, the world, my world has always been that world, but I do both, right? So if I end up doing a deal with Netflix, great. But Brewerin Indians is still an independent entity. You know, if I do a production deal and this film comes out through a studio, cool. But I got another film over here that I'm going to come out of pocket in film. So you can always do the inside outside game. That's the shit I learned from like guys like 36 mafia. That's the shit I learned from guys like Rockefeller. Right? Like you can have a... This is the best

version of Charlamy, Ray. If you notice, like, you're seeing a different side of me. It's not combative. It's also me trying to learn. You feel me? Like, it's me also trying to learn. Like, I got my little ways, but I'm trying to learn. Independent arm, and you can have a corporate arm that's attached to a larger brand. A larger brain. You can do it all. That's all I'm saying. Like, there's nothing we can't do.

My point is, why aren't more of us doing it and why aren't more of us doing it together? Because from what I've learned in my time in this game, the people at the bottom are competing, the people at the top are collaborating. And that's what we need to be doing more. That's good, sir. You're the leader of this face.

You got a 200, let's get it together. Let's get it on the round table. That's just one deal. Remember that. The subtle flex by Charlotte, he ain't tempted to Rod Nates. deal yet. Let's get it together. Let's get it on the round table. That's just one deal.

Remember that. I want you to think about that for a second. That's not the book and print. You understand what I'm saying? That's not the audio scripted. That's not the movie. That's not the Crystal franchise. That's not none of that. That's just one situation. There's so much

that all of us could be doing. And to your point, the reason I'm in the position I'm in is because I pour into other people. I don't want I don't want to be the only person. I want my man over here to be be rocked up. I want my chick over here to be rocked up. And that's what's happening.

You can look at people that I've stood next to, you know, been business with, partners with whoever. You can look at it and see. I want that for all of us. All of us should be doing that with each other. And we can't. So put that together, man. Let's go, man.

Let's put that together. My guy. All right. So it's a ceasefire, man. I'm telling you. I ain't never was bombing. I was on defense, okay? You're a bomb.

I was on defense. We're going to fix all of this, man. We don't get it together, man. You know, obviously, let me tell you this. One thing about media, this is why I usually have reverence for media and media personalities. I got no problem going at it with Little Baby. Niggilite Little Baby or whoever else is the rapper. A rapper career is half the time as long as a media person in career.

I got to be, if I'm going to beef with like a Charlemagne or a Joe, I got a prepare to be for 15 years Charlotte is going to be around for 15 years. Joe 15 years. Do I want that? Little baby, he's a retard. Like he might be, he might go to jail in two years, or

he might be just done in four, and we're just talking about him like an aftermath. What do I rather do? Be for 15 or dealing with a nigger? He might seem hotter at the moment, but he might be out of here in four. A rapper's like, you know, I don't want to call no rapper's names, but there's a couple of rappers like,

Two years ago, we're like, oh, my God, they're so on fire. Today we're like, oh, man, they kind of flop. They kind of fell off. It's really quick with that. So, you know, I try to deal with media a little bit different. Anyway, chat, you know, I really got on for that, but I do want to talk about this one topic. Chat, I don't know what's going on.

Actually, I do know what's going on. Shout to my boy, young boy. Young boy called me the other day. That nigga was on 10. Oh, my God. Young boy was just not playing around. He was on 10. And anyway, it wasn't necessarily about this, but these are the things young boy had been up to.

Anyway, it appears that a young boy responded, and he is responding to whoever was talking about him. So Blueface's mom was actually talking to him and mentioned something about young boy calling him dumb, and Young boy wasn't that fond of it. This is what he said to Blueface. Or this is what Blueface's mom said to Blueface. His mom's name is Carl Lee's, I believe. Took it one time. He took it once?

Oh, and you passed that motherfucker, right? And you tried to get on here and lie like you, NBA young boy, a dumbass nigga or something. No offense. No offense, NBA young boy, I love you and your mama. But I'm just saying, you're going to sit on here and act like you cheated on your SAT. When people who, the real people who took SATs know you can't cheat on no SAT because everybody got a different test. So the people that, when you try to act like you was a, uh, a, a, uh,

dumbass like I just so basically she's trying that she's going off on on blue face saying that blue face been capping acting like he was a guy in school that wasn't good at school and was cheating and it's like no you didn't cheat on your SATs you can't even cheat on your SATs you're you're smarter than the regular dumbass rapper and she mentions young boy I took it one time he took it once yeah oh and you passed that motherfucker right and you try to get on here and lie like you NBA young boy a dumbass Okay. Now, young boy got on her ass immediately,

but this is them reacting to young boy, reacting to them. They said NBA young boy dissing us. What are we doing? What are you talking about? Me and you, they say he dissing us. You need to get out the chat. Bye, Carlisso.

What the fuck? I don't lie to you. This is the calmest I've ever seen blue faces Yo, one thing I respect about Wabi, Wabi don't give a fuck. Kiss, I've never seen Blueface discom, nigga. Never. Nick, I seen it versus NLEE Chapa on 10. I seen him versus Sosa Boy on 10.

You know, when he heard, when he heard, when he heard, young boy name, he said, uh, uh, uh, you need to get off that. You damn right. Now, this is what young boy said, though. Here what he said. No, no. No, your son, a dumbass bitch. You egg like, you want a nigga to fuck your old ass, man. You stay, hey, that's your second time doing that pussy and shit.

Hey, you want to know, hey, you want to know Lefonse? Hey, ex-Naville. What they used to say under that feather on her face, boy? Bitch, they used to say, control. Hey, your son, a dumb ass, stop playing on me, ho. So he does his blue face, he says, oh, he doesn't blue face mom. He said, you a dumb-ass bitch. You probably try to fuck me, like, your son's stupid, too.

And I go to lie, for the first time I've never, Blueface said nothing back. Respect Blueface. Good. Now, he also disses Blueface's new baby moms. He says, ask her what it used to say under that tattoo. She has a tattoo on her eye. Apparently it said Cantrell looked like she had tatted his name.

Let's see if we can find. Nevea Blueface. We got to figure out like, apparently she had like an eye tattoo. And it used to say Cantrell. Oh, she used to look like this. Okay. Can you find Oh no one has like the under eye tattoo

Oh she covered it up with a leaf Oh But if she used to have Cantrell That means she used to fuck with NBA young boy Because that's his name Let's Google that Nevia

NBA young boy No way The young boy used to fuck That niggas baby moms Does anybody know? Oh, Navia addressing the NBA Young Boy situation claiming, okay, here we go. This is from seven.

I'm not worried about it because a bitch did an intro with him. How I ain't never met him. Pott and a cool or whatever, but I ain't never met him. Young boy don't want me, baby. I never want it. I don't even know me. I just did an intro for bro.

My voice. Oh, she did an intro for him. So why does she have his name tatted? If she had Ken Trell under his eye, like, come on, bro. You see, they said what? So this is Blueface's mom, Axe Nevea was YB's dick good, I guess?

This year. You got it. I love NBA young boy, though. Oh, he definitely fucked. Oh, my God. Yo, yo, Blueface is in limbo right now.

What's been something more crazy about yours? Was he good? Oh, I'm going to be honest with you, Blueface, respectfully, get out the group chat. If your mama and your baby moms

asking if a nigger's dick was good, you can't diss that nigger. Respectfully, on school yard crimp, nigger, you can't diss a nigger if your mama and your baby moms is talking about if his dick was good. That's crazy. That's some forked trey shit. That's some forked troy shit right there. I ain't going to lie. His mama said, was that dick good?

This is why you can't have your mom on. I haven't going to lie to you. If your mama asked if my dick was good, it's a lot of you. over. Like it's over, gang. How is the mom asking your baby mom's, how was another man's dick?

Huh? Oh, my God. Yo, you, the baby in the belly like, what? No. You see me? I don't want to talk about it. You don't want to talk about it? Oh, my.

Oh, my goodness. You said, when you see me? He wasn't cussing me out. He was cussing you out, baby, not me. Oh, so she ain't trying to answer. She said, he was cussing you out, not me. So, you know, a young boy was like, asked him to vail.

He wasn't cussing around. He was cussing the mom. He was like, yo, you trying to fuck me or something? Yo, if my mama asked a nigger who I could possibly be beefing with or ask somebody, ask the girl that I'm dealing with, If the nigger who I could possibly beaving with dick is good, I'm good. Like, yo, Mama two treat shit out for me, bro. He was because of me.

You want this. You got it. I love NBA young boy, though. Why the fuck do you keep saying? He's crazy about yours? Was he good? Huh? Was it good?

Oh, my God. So, this is ridiculous, man. Yo, this is ridiculous, bro. This is ridiculous. supposedly he had called her out. So Blueface had called her out two months ago for having like other rappers tatted on her type of shit. Feel me?

Let me see. Why the shit not load in? Chat. Which rappers? I'm going to do a little poll real quick. Chat, which rappers, if you met your girl and she's like, yo, I fucked so and so and so. Are you valid with?

All right. Okay, you meet your girl and she told you she fucked some rappers. Which ones are you? cool with her fucking, then you give her a pass. Blueface calls us B. B.M. Nevea for having other rappers like young boy posting her. Let's say this. It'd be okay if I have five of them, though, so we could be too, right?

You already, what you mean, became a home? I'm a husband. I would, I would say so. As many people as posted you as posted you, I would say. Two people posting me to make me. And be a young boy. Yeah, if I'm, nah, you know, a young boy. my nigga.

If NBA young boy Post you, you are good girls, still, that's my man. Didn't post me. Almighty Namir, the last? She fucked Namir? I said you did with him, and that's four nests. What do you mean? Where do you get two from?

You know what I realized? When you find a chick that doesn't fuck so many niggas, Blueface probably loses no sleep fucking other girls. Like, he probably just looks at her and be like, You know you don't fuck too many niggas for you to care about what I'm doing, right? Okay, now I'm saying because at first I was like, y'all kind of feel bad for surety because I'm like, yo, she's pregnant. Blueface is like, he's entertaining other girls. But after you've been whoring like this is like, yo, bro, you just got to let Blueface do his thing, bro.

Blueface says, you were sleeping with another man while you're pregnant by another man? Hold on. We didn't start sleeping together until my, girl. Hold on. We didn't start sleeping together until my seventh month. Oh, that makes it even better. But at this time, I can't see what you and I was my father. Yeah.

But at this time, we wasn't. I do with something I like, for you, my mama. So his mama was fucking other niggas while she was pregnant with him. So she's, oh my God. Oh, we didn't start sleeping together until my, hold on. We didn't start sleeping together until my seventh month. I ain't going to lie to you. If my mama told me, if my mama told me that I was,

She was pregnant with me And she fuck somebody Other than my daddy Nigger Fuck a funeral I'm cremating her Nick I have no celebration For your wife

It's over nigga It's done What are we talking about Like what This type of horrorism That's what I'm saying Blueface is a different Type of nigga

I'm not talking I can't deal with that shit bro What? Like yo I'm I bet Okay cool Okay

All right man What Yo how does he talk to his mom Like that Well why does his mom Talk to him like that? Naveo is crashing out of a young boy while blue face was behind bars.

Every white bitch in Utah shot the Gravedicker Mountain man. He said what? She said, you're fucking married. Oh, so she was, she was down with the young boy harem. Oh, nah. Yo, Blueface, smart decision. If she was down with the young boy, don't want to even, you don't even want to get there, bro.

Trust me. Trust me. Trust me. You see how you disowning that baby that can't. walk and talk you wouldn't I don't care this baby could be healthy as fuck you ain't you ain't owning this baby after young boy doesn't violate you do not say

nothing brother I get you on that one brother I'll get you on now let's move on brother let's move on goddamn all right so young boy fuck it's crazy because he was bragging on um he was bragging on soldier boy telling soldier boy I fucked your baby mama he got sued

for it by the way he owed like mad money millions 13 million now young boy is basically telling him your baby mama I fucked this is why I don't date and chicks in the industry when niggas could just like drop a bomb on you saying they fucks your baby moms is too crazy

it's wild anyway young boy then later on went on to say and give out a message this was before Friday which we all knew there was one big album coming out on Friday which was future the real me and he said y'all rappers better not flop listen to what he said

I don't get no for you know for about nothing time I took beat me a nigga kick me fuck out y'all y'all And the other bitch-haired niggas Nika better not flop tonight, man. Fuck out ya, bitch. Bad, nigga, do I have this shit that go down and play with it. B'bany.

Fuck out ya. Your mom and your hoes. Nicar, fuck all ya. You know, fuck. Mm, okay. And then, apparently, after they realized that young boy

on bad timing, Blueface's mama apologizes to Blueface. Check this out. You wanted to bring somebody up last night? Well, you got to... I was trying to make a plane. He's got to be.

I used the wrong name. You didn't use no wrong name. You knew what you was doing. And everybody knows them. Even his baby mama, I love her too. I mean, his wife. Not his baby mama, his wife. That was horrible.

Apologize, y'all. Thank you. And I'd be mixing them up. Well, I probably was meant to say chopper. But you got me thinking about the other one. I fucked up again? Yeah, last night. You're talking shit.

Tell them I was drunk. Girl, love, bitch. Your name? Girls. I didn't say nothing about you. You caused somebody something fucking dumb last night. No, I didn't. I swear to God, you did.

I said they didn't graduate high school. And guess what? They're talking shit now. I didn't say they was dumb. I said they didn't graduate high school. I didn't say that was dumb. Well, who Kuki baby, baby. Well, listen, they're talking shit now.

Yeah, the fuck your old Man, you say, hey, that's your second time Doing that pussy and shit Hey, you want to know Hey, you want to know Let Farn fake Hey, ex-Noveil What they used to say under that

Sutter on her face, boy Bitch they used to say Control Oh, the feather Oh, she do got feather on her face Hey, you're sign of dumb ass Stop playing him down Yeah, you start shit

Yeah, you start my time My tithe-a-kid Fuck out of y'allie Oh my God Toppy head that fucking niggas in that industry clicking up y'all know that song? This is my song

bro. Every time I don't fault with these industry niggas, every time I'm fault with these industry niggas, I play this song, niggas. Okay, anyway. Carlinson, you stay is up. You want... Okay, all right. So then after dissing,

you know, whoever this was. I don't get no for you about nothing time. I took a bitched a nigga kick me. Fuck out y'all. Y'all need. And the other bitch-haired niggas niggas better not flop tonight, man.

Fuck out, yeah, me. Okay. And disson, Blueface's mom. He got on IG Live with Offset and, um, young boy promised to do better. And stop dissing people. Here we go.

You know what I'm saying? First, we got to say, tell the world, we got to say happy birthday culture. It's the 10th, man. We got to wish baby to coach a happy birthday.

I just come with that happy birthday culture. Yes, sir. Yes. That's uh. I appreciate that, my brother. She's gonna see this. I appreciate that.

I know, I really can't cry this bitch, though, because I really don't like how you just got on my head, shit. Yeah, man, we're pushing. We're pushing the money. You know what I told you? You know what I mean?

Don't let the nigg get you out your body. You know what I mean? We're solid niggas. We do what's right to our family. You did? No, no, no. No, no, on some G shit. I'm some G shit.

I got to stop there getting emotional shit because I really let some other pusset shit hurt me and that's what really got me back on these bitch going up tripping I have been doing great bitch huh you're right though

and I thank you for that I'm like I apologize to you and I apologize to them too that's all good it's all good you're right it's all good we live in

God is good I flashed out I flashed out I'm tripping I flashed out we ain't doing that no more. We're getting to it. Be happy around this motherfucker. No I mean?

Real shit. Real shit. Just look at YBI's. You know you on bad time. You get up out of our body. You in Norway. I'm in Norway. That's what my main home, man.

That's why I called you, bitch. I thought you was running away. I love you, bitch. Hey, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, I flashed out. You made, you got me feeling like a dick right now. I flashed out, bitch. It's all good, bitch. It's all good. Yo,

yo, young boy would be talking to you and you was bitching like an endearing way. Yeah, I flashed out bitch. Like, what? Wait, wait, wait, you called me bitch? No, no, no. They got me back going.

I got to let that shit go. I got to. I love you, bitch. Happy birthday call to you. I love you, bitch. We're gone. Oh, man. You know what I'm saying?

First, we got to say, tell the way. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. So after this, he promised Off said he would stop flashing out. But of course, what happens, he flashes out again. He tags Future this time. And check this out. Let me get on these bitch-ass, niggas.

No, no, no. Like 10 minutes. So I guess, and that's his wife, like shouting to him like, Top, give it 10 minutes. Like, calm down, top. Count to 10. I guess she got like some remedies for him. Hey, give it 10 minutes before you make the video. Young boy don't give a fuck. He's like 10 minutes. I'll give it 10 seconds. Watch this.

Get them these bitch-ass, nigga, Aze. No, no, no. Take 10 minutes. Why does that? One, two, three. That's six. Oh, I'm stupid as fuck. Bitch you flop with your bitch ass. I ain't letting you slide. They're been not getting to the fuck you, you old-ass. Bitch. You, hey, you wanted my antique closet.

Yo, what? Child. Yo. Yo, what? Let me get on these bitch-ha-na's, nigger, ass. No, no, no. Take ten minutes before you decide. Take ten minutes.

Why does that? One, two, three. That's six. Oh, I'm stupid as fuck. Bitch, you flop with your bitch ass. I ain't letting you slide. They bet not getting to the fuck you, you, you old-ass. Bitch.

You, eh, you wanted my antique closet. You thought you was going to count me out, too. Nicky you are Let me get on these bitch ass Nika ass Mm Then he says The only things

He says The only thing I could ever lose In my life Is a hole in my temper Now I quit Offs it On my daughter I ain't respond

None of them bitch A bitch he no more Now he says he's back He quits By the way His tattooed choices Are kind of interesting He has help tattooed right here

Some Is this Chinese or Arabic Right here Who is this person I don't know Who is this? this guy, I don't know, he has his wife name tatted below his belly button, and he has a couple other faces. Like, young boy got some interest in tattoos. I can't, I can't lie. Anyway,

listen to YB. Tell them one nigga's fucking me. Fuck out them, bitch-ha-n-niggin' now I quit, obviously. On my daughter, I ain't respond to none of the bitch-ha-a-nobo. Tell him me them, fuck out them, bitch-ha-ha-nig. Okay. Okay. There we go. Now, that didn't end there, as you might have thought. It actually continued because Young Boy says in honor to the whole Holana, he dropped a song

and it's called the future. Yes, I know. It's called the future. Is it on his main page? Let me see if it is. Is it what the what? No, no, I thought it was called the future. No, no, no. Is it what to what? No, no, no. Yeah, this is it. This is it.

I don't think we only get copyrighted. Yeah His label moving slow You got it Hey listen Hey J For it This you

Yeah Yeah What the fuck Yeah I got to see my flat Slim bitch with a dicko And I won't hit her front

Back I want turn up Yeah I won't pull up Big man Yeah Roll let's cross her Manchin

Fuck him Yeah I'm gonna catch him And do them for free Pussy out of Bannin bitch Now let me pause And just say

I think when Niggas hear Like a disc track Like, niggas want to hear like, I hate young boy. This is a little bit different style, but like, it's a little vibe to it. Fuck you. Probably made one of your hos I fuck. Gee!

Bitch, fuck you. Why I'm thugging you play on my flush, beach. I won't go bells on go hit at the heat. I want to go mean for me and pissing. I'm fucking their daughters. I'm dying. I pull up for Roy, pull up my surprise. They're burning his homie.

I got a guy. In my bad to that shit, licking like I said britch. I don't like I just did a hit me. I just like I just saw a break. Why? I love this nigga made because I just fuck his bitch Yeah Let's these things in seven

Yeah, bro. God damn hell Let's be beating your back to Street. Oh, got that front you're selling What you want what you need? I'm saying, but they better be ready. I'm gonna go men for a man,

made it stretch. Putting that shit up in the dillow. He made it dissing. They shit to see my ass for men. Yeah, bro. Let's cross a mansion. Fucking young. I'm going to catch him and do them in.

I just act different. Eddie pussy and they got to get the facts different. These pussy and they be pussy and me. Now, you know, I think I'm fair. I rate this song, it's cool. I was expecting more disses. I feel like the only diss I kind of like heard was, yo, I fucked your bitch, which I'm like,

I don't know if that works with Future. You know I've heard that Future got like about 45 bitches. Like literally, like 45 girls that's within his harem. So if you fuck one of his girls is like, Okay, cool. Get to the other 44 and then you could say you've completed the mission. I don't know. Like, he got a lot of girls.

So it's like, I don't know if it really hits like that. And I'll be honest, he's not really talking super crazy to future. Like future, I'll fuck you up, you a bitch. You know what I mean? The way he would talk to a dirk and like when he's talking like, yo, killer shit, he didn't really talk like that to future. So I guess the only thing is like, yo, he was just bragging that I got money. we could go money for money,

ban for band type shit, which, by the way, for anybody who's asking, I do think Young Boy could go band for band for band with the future. I know you might be like, no. Young boy just went on a tour

that Future never went on. And he's about to go back on another tour whenever he announced another tour. Young boy going to go on. Maybe Future could go on a solo tour like that, but I ain't gonna lie. Young boy collected the Infinity Stones. You got at least like, you know,

50 to 60 million from that tour. Again, we haven't seen Future do that, even though he did go on a successful tour with Metro. Somebody says, someone says it's an old song? Is it? Oh, I didn't know that. Someone said, they can't go hit-for-hit, though? Nah, no, future's tough to go hit-for-hit with. I'll be honest.

Future's tough to go hit for hit with. Now, do I know where the beef is? I don't know. I don't know. I really don't know. I wish I did know. but I don't know. And I'm going to be honest with you,

the energy that I know YB's on, I would call him if it was normal circumstances, but I feel like if I call him, you're going to just see more posts up. Like, because he's the type of person. When he's in that mode, you bring him there, he's going to get everything off his chest. So, you know, if he hasn't posted anything himself,

I'm going to just let it be, right? Anyway, that didn't end there. Apparently, he commented on, a post for Doboy and Doboy posted him in future and Young Boy said keep talking with your whole ass And Doe Boy was really upset Doe Boy responded with this

This what he said. We can bump right now Like right now we don't got to argue Or do none of this gay ass internet shit That you be on do You need to come outside gang You not gonna even come outside Nowhere in America gang

You only feel safe out the country Y'all don't see this nigga walking around up here. Do you? No, you don't. That niggas only pop out where he feels safe as fucking. He ain't got the police with him.

He ain't going. This nigga do it, sit in the house and yell at his phone all day. This nigga is weird, gang. Fuck is wrong with you. Let's bump. Let's bump.

Where are you at? We can bump right now. Like, right now. Holy. So it's Doe Boy. If you don't know, Doe Boy is affiliated with FBG, which is free band gang.

That's Futures Group. he's obviously sticking up for future young boy kind of called him out saying keep talking shit with your pussy ass or whatever he said now keep talking with your whole ass and once again this response or do none of this gay ass internet shit that you be on do you need what i do like when how he's recording you know you gotta like keep putting your thumb up and down to like zoom in zoom out i like that i like when gangsters do that pause to come outside gang you not gonna even come outside no he got the camera tricks that's fire we're in america gang you only feel safe out the country y'all don't see this nigger around up here. Do you? No, you don't. That nigga only pop out where he feels safe as fucking. He ain't got the police with him. He ain't going. Oh, this nigga do is sitting in the house and yell at his phone all day. This nigga is weird, gang. Fuck is wrong with you. Let's bump. Let's bump. Where are you at? We can bump right now. Like, right now, we don't got to argue or do none of this gay-ass internet shit that you be on,

dude. You need to come outside, gang. You not going to even come outside nowhere in a America, gang, you only feel safe out the country. Y'all don't see this nigga walking around up here. Do you? No, you don't. That nigga only pop out where he feels safe is fucking. He ain't got the police with him. He ain't going. What this nigga do is sitting in the house and yell at his phone all day.

This nigga is weird, gang. Fuck is wrong with you. Let's bump. Let's bump. Where are you at? We can... Oh, goddamn. Anyway, you know, hopefully cooler heads prevail.

Give me one second. I'm trying to figure something now. Okay, here we are. My bad, too. Okay. I've seen some people say, well, a future been on 10 tours. It's at third.

Most streamed hip-hop artists in 2025. I think we're going to, most stream rappers. This is on Spotify. Young boy isn't that big on Spotify. But, you know, of course, Don Dada, you know, the boy, Drizzi, number one. But Future is five.

Young boy was nine. Young boy was nine. But remember that list? Apple Music most streamed artists of all time. Remember when they dropped that list? This is the most stream artist of all time on Apple Music. Young boy was, oh, future was still above him. Oh, shit.

Oh, never mind. So Young Boy is closer on this list. This is the top 20 most streamed of all time. you know, the boy's number one, Taylor Swift number two, but Future is actually number three. Ooh,

I ain't going to lie. Very tough. Very tough. And Spotify also did the same. Most streamed of all time. Drake was three. Taylor was one, Bad Bunny, two,

Weekend four. Let's see who's above. Actually, we don't even see Future or. Oh, no, Future is here. Future is 819. and young boy was not in that list. So, okay, let's, you know, we're going to call a spade a spade. Future, by all metrics, does beat young boy in streams.

He does beat him in streams. While young boy has the highest grossing tour between them, futures been on more tours. Got to give him credit. He's been on more tours. He did sell his catalog. Maybe I stand corrected. You know, Future might just have, he might have,

It might have young boy beating all that stuff. Well, it is future, though. Come on his fucking motherfucking future, bro. Future compares with, like, Kendrick. Like, you know, yeah. Yeah, future is future. And the thing I think, I don't know what the origin is, it's not going to take off, like, probably, you know,

I don't know if young boy expects it to, like, take off, like, online. It's like, future don't bother nobody. He cares about bitches. He doesn't really bother nobody. and yeah, that's about it. So I don't know. Doe boy is kind of putting out a challenge. I will say, though, I'm going to say to dough boy,

let's take the tone down. I think that's a crash out. They're trying to get a young boy to crash out by saying, oh, you're not outside. Like, you know? Like, well, first of all, he couldn't be outside for so long because of his probation, because of his house arrest, and because he was in jail.

Now he's out of jail. People are like, now come to the hood or come to like the place where you could go to jail. And, you know, shit. I like the fact that he's traveling out of country. You know, he was,

he wasn't pardoned, but, but actually he was pardoned. Right? Yeah, he was pardoned by Trump. So now his record is clean so he could travel. You know, he's taking advantage of that. But of course, you know, his ops or whoever who would be beefing with him is like, Nah, come back to the hood, nigga.

Let's shoot it out and die. Where are you at? Shout to doughboy, too. Like, he always just reps for future, you know? Bunk right now. Like, right now, we don't got to argue or do none of this gay-ass internet shit that you be on, dude. You need to come outside, gang. You not going to even come outside nowhere in America, gang.

You only feel safe out the country. Y'all don't see this nigga walking around up here. Do you? No, you don't. That nigga only pop out where he feels safe as fucking. He ain't got the police with him. him, he ain't going. Oh, this nigga do it,

sit in the house and yell at his phone all day. This nigga is weird, game. Fuck is wrong with you. Let's bump. Let's bump. Where you... Okay. Now, even though Young Boy didn't respond, Herman, the Black Sheep did respond, and he said this.

Man, what we're doing? Because I don't want to talk. I can't talk. I don't want to talk. We're going battle for battery. We're going dollar for dollars. We're going to chop. We're going to diamond for diamond. But y'all just can't fuck. What I said, net? It's retort over here. You hear me? Then what the nigger? I ain't going to do. We're talking about slap that nigga.

Snap who? Man, just imagine your pussy, pick your arm with the slap a nigga in the whole head fall. Man, you got to think on to a five. But look, I'm on, whatever y'all want. You hear me? I'm thacking.

Let's do it. Man, what we're doing? Because I don't want to talk. I can't talk. I don't want to talk. We're going battle for battle. We're going dollar for dollar. It's one of young boys right here, man.

Going to chopper for the top, we're going diamond for diamond. Because y'all just can't fuck. What is a net? It's retort over here. It's a prostrate over here. Then what they nigga? I ain't going to do. I'm talking about slap that nigga.

Snap that who? Man, just imagine your pussy and pick your arm with the slap a nigga in the whole head fall. Man, you got to think on your five. But look, I'm on whatever y'all want. You hear me? I'm talking. Let's do it. Man, what we doing?

Well, damn. I don't want to talk. I can't talk. Where are you in? All right. So that's where we have with it. As Doe Boy responded, this is such a random. beef, I don't even know what to say.

It's so random. I guess this was the picture. Okay. I've never seen, like, future, like, fully beef with somebody, you know? Let's look at Doboy Instagram. That's it. We can bong. You got the right one today.

You got the right one today. Oh, here we go. He posts something else. You don't want to go diamond for diamond, dollar for dollar. Chopper for chopper. This, man, shut the fuck up. Nick, you all the niggas try to go story for story. Stop talking to me, man.

I said what I said, man. Fuck all you, niggas. I don't give a fuck, we could do whatever. Any one of you, niggas, fuck as you're talking about. And your side is nowhere near turk is mine. You, niggas, niggas, niggas know this. Niggas, niggas, talking to me, man. Who touched the em?

Besides him. I want to know. Pussy. Where you at? You got the right? You don't want to go diamond for diamond, dollar for dollar. Choppah for chopper for this. Man, shut the fuck up.

Nick, y' all nigg's trying to go story for story. Stop talking to me, man. I said what I said, man. Fuck all you, I don't give a fuck, we could do whatever. Any one of you, niggas.

Fuck as you tongue about. And your side is nowhere near turk is mine. You knickers know this. Nigel win and put on all I be old ice talking this rich nigga shit to me, man. Who touched the M?

Besides him, I want to know. Pussy. Well, damn. Well, goddamn. Did Herm respond again? Why does it look up his age? No, his Instagram.

Did he respond back? And what we doing? How your name doboy, but you ain't got no doughboy? Oh, man, you ain't no motherfucking gangster. Bitch, you was a good football playing there, nigga. They turned gangster when he started rapping. Man, you was a bitch. I'm a real gangster fire.

Real-like knock on, I would beat the fuck out you. Then, I got about some old jury. Boy, you put a cow, motherfucker, motherfucker, shire and Nicky. He's a man, Nick and ex-a-knit. I'm gonna hurry cash out on his own shit, nigger. You're a man, man. You're a man, man. You're a little boy, then I would beat the fuck out you.

You don't want to see me in nicking. Nick, how about something? His side and my side. Man, this ain't got nothing to your side. You ain't got nothing to with your side. I'm talking about me and you. I got more money than you.

I got more drilling than you. Ain't now beat the fuck out you. Oh, shit. Be trying to boss on your side. You're from a lot? You're from out there, bitch. Oh, shit. Nah, Doboy.

I ain't gonna lie. You got to respond, bro. Man, how you name Dobboy, but you ain't got no dope boy. Man, you ain't no motherfucking gangster. Bitch, you was a good football playing there. They turned gangster when he started rap.

Man, you was a bitch. I'm a real against the fire real like knock on all I would beat the fuck out you Then I got about some old jury Boy, you put a call A man, motherfucker shit, dude But a car, ice man, Nick and Nick and assing a nigga

I'm gonna hurry cash out On his own shit, nigga You hear him, man, man, nigga. You know what's retort with me, boy? Some of this grown man, man, man, nigger. Man, y'all, nigga, little boy, then, I would beat the fuck out you. You don't want to see me in nothing.

Nick, how about something? His side and my side. Man, this ain't got done through your side. You ain't got nothing to your side. I'm talking about me and you. I got more money than you. I got more drilling you And I beat the fuck out you

I'll beat the fuck out you I will say Not taking sides But Herm has called me before I think he was beef with Mimo And he showed me a whole man And he said yo bro This is where I really live at nigga

Like yo he showed me the chains He showed me the cars He's like yo Why niggas even would even play with me Acting like yo Like we live in on young boy money Like nigga we get our own money Nigger

And we get money with him Like what the fuck his niggins He's talking about So he has done that. I can't lie. He has done that. So do I believe these are young boy chains? Nah, I've seen young boy chains.

Young boy chains look retarded. Like, what I mean, retarded? Like, what I mean, retarded? Like, you know, these are herm chains. They look dope. Young boy chains are retarded. You're talking about on your side? You're from a lot?

You're from out there. Bitch, go home. Go home, Roger. Oh, shit. All right. Man, how you name, Doboy, but you ain't got no dope boy. Man, you ain't no motherfucking gang some bitch was a good football playing there nigger they turned gansom when he started rap

man you was a bitch i'm a real gangster fire real like knock all i would beat the fuck out you then i got about some old jury boy you put a cow motherfucker shins judith but a call ice man nixon nigger i'm gonna her and cash out on his own shit nigger you're real man's retort with me boy to my this grown man money nigger y'all nigger you'll nigger you don't want to see me in nicking niggum how about something his side and my side man this ain't got nothing do with your I just ain't got nothing to do with myself. I'm talking about me and you. I got more men than you.

I got more drilling than you. And I beat the fuck out you. Then, be talking about your side. You had from a lot of? You ain't from out there. Bitch go home. Go home, Roger.

Oh, yeah. So I think doughboys from somewhere else. Holy shit. God damn. All right. All right. All right. Chat.

It's definitely been real. So this is what we're going to do. Um, our next stream, I'm going to do. the breakdown of a futures album. I see a lot of people talking about it. I've been listening to it off stream, of course.

We'll talk about it. We do have some updates to do on some other stuff. By the way, we have Connor McGregor fighting tonight, so I don't know if you guys care about that. Keep tapped in. We do have to talk about Enelie Chappo. He got a new look. We also have to talk about Ben 10, his recovery process.

Remember people were saying he was never going to walk again. Also, we have All-Star J.R. His legal situation is, like, really interesting because, you know, it first started off with people saying, oh, they want him to tell. But, like, now it kind of feels like they want to stick him for being a felon with a gun. I think it's going to be, this is a Supreme Court case, in my opinion, we'll figure it out. The World Cup is going on. I want your predictions. Okay, we're going to fill out the remaining brackets if you guys are interested.

You know, of course, we got, you know, shots of stake. We've been trying to play some bets, trying to, you know, figure out who's going to win the World Cup. I anticipate on Colin Kaepernick being able to respond to all this Jay-Z stuff. Jay-Z is basically dissing him and also Charlemagne spoke on his behalf, basically saying him, you know, Jay-Z did nothing wrong. Also, I have heard from many people that people want me to speak about the influencer, Nolan Wells, who passed away. I will be looking into that and trying to give you some more info.

So be prepared for that for our next stream as well. Taylor Swift, she got married. We didn't really talk about that. And also there's a viral clip going on about Shannon Sharp versus Shakur Stevenson, which was, if you ask me, absolutely hilarious. So we'll also get to that. Chat, we've been on for about like 6 hours and 35 minutes, according to my record. It's actually even more.

Somebody said, read donations. Ooh, don't tell me I'm like a bad streamer now. I get to it right now. Sorry, I apologize. Actually, we've been on for longer than I think. because we got cut off I think about seven hours we've been on All right

Let me read some donations Thank you guys if you guys have donated Appreciate you A lot Here we go Oh okay Ah Ah Art

Nico Thank you for the $10 This first time doing Superchat Just to tell you You let me down act What He said I lost my job too And I still thought

This was worth it how did I let you down my brother? Art Nico also said, oh, he said, I've never been in my life secondhand humbled. The way see the God did you was, I don't know. I'm going to be honest with you, brother. Like, if you felt that Charlemagne got the better of that exchange, you're someone who's going to,

you're someone who is going to be in the belief that everything I'm saying is just cap, right? Like, you know, I'm telling you what's going on, what's going on with me and rock nation. You're like, okay, all right, yo, act is either lying or delusional. So, I mean, at that point, I can't really do anything, bro. You know, so I respect you and I thank you for your donation. But, you know, you know what the conversation was. The conversation was me and Charlemagne really don't have anything, even though there's a conversation to be had about him and, um, him in, like, George or whatever. but the main conversation was him trying to play defense for Rock Nation.

If it worked with you, I don't know what to say. Honestly, right? Ard Varkian, he says future flopped after the World Cup. We don't know if future flopped. So we're going to, we'll figure that out. I'm not too sure future flopped at all. So we won't get first day sales on future. honestly, I expect what Future should do is above 75K.

He had no features on it. He did announce it like two weeks before, but he's not doing no press, no interviews. I say over 75K. Remember, Future did do with the, I still don't trust you. He did over 200K with him and Metro and everything like that. I expect him to do over 75K. If he does over 75K, he didn't flop. If he does anything below 75K, I think we could talk about that.

Some people might try to compare it to YB who dropped more leaks too and he did 32K. That's pretty much a compilation album of like leak songs. He hasn't promoted it and he hasn't really spoke about it at all. I thought 32K was more of more than average for a young boy doing that. So just being honest. First Joe in 22, he says when I got out in 2017 watching your content since Kodak diswain video, then doing a show with Joe Bunn, I found out about podcast. Then from that, I watched the streams because of you.

I appreciate that. Fresh Jones, thank you so much. I appreciate you. Thank you for that 10. T.S. Car Wash Detail Service. He said, Joe, different, different. Thank you. So I said, Acklett, Charlotte Mayn escape the BTA, shaking my head.

Okay. Then he says, Ackhead is fried. And he says, skip all this. I want to see what acts said about Jay Legendary Knight. No, no, I thought it was a great concert. Great concert. The concert that happened last night, don't know what's going to happen tonight,

but it was good. It was a good concert. Like, I have, you know, if I had a little bit more time, I do have some plans, so I can't just stay on here forever. But him bringing out Nas, I do like that. That was dope.

Having his wife, Beyonce, like, perform as Mary Jay. I love that, too. King, Buck, thank you for the five gift of you, my man. RM King says, is the full reaction video going to be on your YouTube or just a two-hour sit-down? I want to see the reaction, too.

Yes, his will be on King Academics, my reaction to us. And he says, yo, Crow, he's trying to make you sound modified. I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to lie. That's a good strategy. I'm just going to expect you guys, if you've watched me, you should know, your act is not just spewing off bullshit. Bro, he conveniently just gaslit shit. And it's easy to do when the opponent, Rock Nation, is just, like,

they move in an invisible way. right it's like okay if i didn't have it well not me doing it but if grand wizard didn't post whatever he posted about charlotte man i could be like charlotte that's not me that's not just gaslighted no way like i just don't i don't like shit like that anyway Kevin biscuits jelly 81 93 thing for the five is a big up act said i would have had a brain aneurism with this guy again the full audio going to be up the full video going to be up man i'm just rely on the audience. If you watch as much hip hop

as I present or watch even more, you should know when somebody's playing dumb, bro. You know? Hemmy Lifestyle, what up with you, brother? You say, yeah, everybody, please hit the like button, and I think you guys should. SkyHad Grad, TRW,

thank you guys for the, or thank you for the 5 gifted. I appreciate you. And Bozo, 5017, says, yo, Charlemagne's moving like 21 Savage with a collar capric and J. I'm friends with Metro and future and also friends with Drake headass. So I said, this is stupid because AC has to keep recircling to block, recircling the block to put out, Cedar God gaslight.

Yeah, he gaslit me a lot on that, you know. My nigga, like, I couldn't get him to admit that Rock Nation has a problem with people like me. He's just saying, no, no one has a problem with you. Whatever, right. Action Shores podcast says, Drake's a pop star. Rap slash hip-hip is supposed to be edgy and risky. is safe elevator music shopping music and grocery store tunes yon need to take off your sandals and tie them laces shout to you thank you for the 20 uh i'm i'm guessing are you a jz guy

like well who's your favorite artist if you're like you should you know be a little bit edgy and risky and and tie those laces up ultra instinct thank you for the five said inverse wire name suits since it's the inverse of the truth no one bigger than act or the chat salute king thank you ultra i really respect you rsit 21 thank for the two says great job Ack looking like you're 21 again. How's that thing about a physical appearance? Like, you know, I remember when I was on Vlad one day after I did shit with Oozzie. I hate when they put pictures of that up.

I thought I look okay. Thank you. Am I live now? Thank you for the 10. Since Big Act always wins. Listen, I went in there with you guys in mind. I, you know, bro. And I'm going to take this, honestly, I'm going to take this and I'm going to learn from it.

I'm such a straight shooter. I might have to get slightly better at dealing with gaslighters because I get probably more passionate, more louder, or not more louder, but just louder, hoping the audience is following the gaslight. But Charlotte did a really good job just gaslighting, right? And in other ways, I think I could have made, I'm going to learn from it and probably realize, like,

maybe I should add that to my arsenal, but I like the straight shooter shit, right? I thought that's what people like me for, like, okay, act is not going to act ignorant or dumb to shit. If there's something he's confronted on that he knows about, he'll just concede the point. But the gaslight and shit like, oh, I don't know nothing about that. Oh, I don't care nothing about it.

Like, are we debating? Like, you know, I let him sit there and read a bunch of articles. Like, I mentioned real things. He's like, I don't know nothing about that. Like, should I have just stopped the podcast and be like, all right, I'll look it up that you could address it? Because he gets off with this. No, I don't know nothing about that. No, that's, you know, again, I'm going up against someone who's really, he's a pro.

Detroit Nug, thank you for five. He said, Stella got her weed back, mixtape out now. All right, man, go check out that man, mixtape. And by the way, DeLane 57, thank you for being a member. Kelvin Delos. Thank you as well for being a member. Welcome to the chat gang for both you guys. Let me check on the Academy real quick.

Okay. Here we go. Yeah, also like, I don't know, like, you know, while in the podcast, I've seen all the little tactics. So it's not like, you know, some people might think it went over my head. I've seen the tactics Charlo was doing. I honestly do believe this is 2026. Bro, just be truthful and let the audience figure it out. This video, that's why I said it's recorded.

It'll be up for ever and ever. If I'm wrong, it's going to age badly. If I'm right with these things, you're going to be like, you're going to go back and be like, okay, that's why the conversation looked like that. Oh, no, Charlemagne's gaslighting. He's lying here. So, you know, what could I do? Like, jump across the table and force him to like address certain shit. No, I can't.

I can't do none of that. So it is what it is. Berkeley Fertillion, thank you for the five. It says, man, Charlemagne is an experienced journalist. Why would he get info on your man and not do any of his own legwork? You got a dedicated evil stream to him. Don't tell Ken, think of the two. He says, like for Act, Cobbman for Charlotte, man.

King Buck, thing for the 10, bro. He says W. Act, put BTA to Rot Nation lawyers to Charlotte to keep your foot on their neck. Yeah, I felt like we did our thing. I feel like we did the other thing. You know, I scored it before as 9-3, and I still, I give a gracious 8-4. But to me, someone gaslighted me is not making a point. The only points he had was that, oh, there's this lawsuit. I literally said let's go

allegation for allegation. And let's talk about it. Couldn't do that. So it's like, anybody who would say that Charlotte came off looking better is basically saying Charlotte did a good job of making you look crazy and that making you look

like you're just kind of spaced out. And to that person, I would be like, bro, have you watched me for the last like 12 months? Like I'm not, you know, I don't think necessarily can't. It's always on some spaced out shit. But it's like, bro, I look like some like manic person. Bro, I'm, I've detailed, I've documented, I've covered all of these things.

I presented it to someone who clearly has some interest with them. And what they did was act like they never heard of these things. Yo, let's talk about Bobby Schmurter. Oh, I never heard of that. Let's talk about this. Oh, I never heard about, let's talk about that. I never heard of, okay, let's talk about Colin Caput. Oh, I stand with it.

Bro, what do you want me to do at that point? I'm hitting them with everything there is. is. Okay. Somebody says, I think Hope sneak this with that Twitter activist bar. Ooh, you think so? He says Twitter act.

Twitter act? Holy. Somebody says, yo, you got to play that 6-9 sample. I walked shit down. Thank you, hitmakers. I really appreciate you. Susan Silva. Thank you for the two.

It says 300% AI. Hey, no. So we've kind of done the ringer, or kind of like put it through the ring in a bit. And yeah, it's literally saying that this is AI. This is AI. Look, look, we're going to show you. Look, we put it through a thing and it says the AI media detector, likely AI generated 99%.

If that doesn't win the debate, I don't know. This was this got you thing. Yo, look at this article that says the Grand Wizard behind this. It's AI. I'm like, who do you want me to do? What do you want me to do at that point? Like, lie? Marv, 3401, thank you for the tenant.

It says the article, the author, and the website is all AI generated, all provable. The surrealization, thank you for the five. I actually think for another five. It says, act, let me buy a VIP ticket for Toronto. I'm trying to open up like maybe 15 more spots. The owner told us like we couldn't go above a certain number for like, you know, VIP. But we're trying to get preferred seats. and meet and greet.

So like possibly we could do it. Just give me a second. All right. Give me to like tomorrow. Nah, she says, Charlotte is a fake ass slime ball, period. Yeah. So Nina says,

yo, AC is saying, stop trying to spin a narrative. So, Nina, I got to be honest with you, it's the first time, I feel like,

this is the first time I felt like people ever, like, said to me like, oh, you're out there with it. But I felt like I've given so much proof. Like, how much more proof?

Yo, the reality is that, Jay Z and Desiree Perez and Rock Nation, they're never going to talk. They're never going to talk. Like, do y'all only believe that someone is going against you or someone is doing some stuff in the culture if they are popping shit like I am? Anyway. Mike Sam 33, thing of five, says,

do you think 50 cents age better to a younger audience than Jay Z? Yes, I do think so I do think so 100% I definitely do think so Here's the difference though 50's always kind of like embrace that that new guy You know we see him with Drake We see him with

Soldier Boy when such boy just came out We sell him with Cheat Keith 50's always kind of been the guy that You know he's put his hand around The new artist more than more than not We even seen him with Pop Smoke I think with Jay Z like If you didn't come from his camp

He's not really You know Jay Z's kind of like Charlamagne in a way where you have to come from his camp for him to support you. 50 would be like 50 wasn't cool with Interscope because he had beef with Interscope. But Chief Keefe was on Interscope. He put his arm around him. He always kind of like supported the new guy because I think he always understood the new wave. Jay Z has never done that.

Jay Z's always been for self for what I got going on and trying to like steal the new artist more than trying to work with. them right like you know look he couldn't get bobby smirder now him and bobby and cool he couldn't fully get oozy even though oozy so demands by them you don't see too much right it's really odd so jzy comes across as i'm not fucking with you unless i could get paid from you and and so does charlemagne a little bit charlemagne kind of like almost admittedly was like yo act yeah i didn't feel like i needed to do a podcast with you because you're in your career already keep in mind I also was offered a brilliant idiotous deal.

I turned it down. These new guys who took the deal or whatever, like he's willingly doing podcasts with him. So if he has nothing to gain, he's not trying to. So that's a Jay-Z-type thing. 50 was always just trying to stay near the heat. Like he was hot, you know, he's hot, like he's trying to stay near the heat.

Gridlock says the heat was getting too much. Netflix probably said, cool this shit. You never know, maybe. L. Stallon's 93-11 and Litt Life Cash, 5879. Thank you both for all the jewels and all the things you guys have donated, including Miss A.G. Shout to you as well. By the way, thank you to Ali Henry. Remember for seven months, it says, yo, ain't unbeat in the chat. Yeah. So, chat, we kind of have like a good agenda for pretty much our following stream. I know today is, today's a Saturday. I want to take up your entire Saturday. I'm going to go out as well for like a short period of time and I'll be back. But, but. we have some stuff to talk about tomorrow. I do want to say I thank you guys for support me. I thank you guys if you entrusted me with, you know, holding down the chat in this conversation.

Hopefully I represented it as best as I could. Again, I'll give Charlotte some credit. That gaslighten is almost like Floyd made with a defense. You know, Floyd's good with the defense shit. But I still think we made our points. And I welcome more of those conversations with my peers, especially ones I disagree with. Not the ones who we barely acknowledge. But I think we should have conversations like that. And hopefully that will go to more conversations and go to a place of cohesion.

As far as Rock Nation and Jay-Z goes, you know, the saga is going to continue. You know, for the people who believe the gaslighten, I'll say this to you. I said multiple times I'm down to talk to them. I guarantee Charlemagne won't come back and tell you out what they said. You know why?

Because he's not talking to them. knows they ain't going to sit down with me. But anyway, have a good Saturday, chat. I love y'all, and I appreciate y'all. Thank you to my kick family for rocking out. And I think even when we're on Rumble,

I don't know. Shouts to everybody who's tuned in, including the King Academics and the Academy. We will be back tomorrow, if not later tonight. I don't want to promise later tonight because I know how you guys are, but definitely tomorrow.

Ain't anything big of the chat. I will see you guys tomorrow. Peace.