DJ Akademiks Live Streams - Jay Z & Harvey Weinstein were on 2 MANS? Blueface and NLE Choppa go LEFTER. OTF Jam to Rat on DURK?

Episode Date: February 7, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's happening here? What's happening here? What is happening here? Are we good? Give me a second. I just got to make sure we're all good. Give me one second. We need to make sure everybody is all good.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Nobody move. Nobody gets hurt. Make sure we're good on YouTube, right? It's a little wacky at first. I think we might be good. Say I did nothing for you I have to do anything you want Okay, I think we're good.
Starting point is 00:00:52 They got me feeling like a macademics. I got to make a song. Yo, who want to help write my little baby this song? I'm about this that, nigga. I'm hearing rumors little babies airing the cause of, uh, of, um, Aiden Ross claims he was ready for, for negotiations. Yeah, I got to cut that clip for me.
Starting point is 00:01:33 what you're trying to get a Honda Civic or something? I'm like, what's up, bro? What's up? A shop! Oh, man, I need this. Somebody get this for me. Welcome, I'm just trying to make sure everybody's good. We're going to an little opening monologue shortly, and then we are off to the races.
Starting point is 00:01:55 If you don't know, I believe, what day is today? Today's the fourth. J-Cole album drops yesterday. I said yesterday. Two days. right no it drops tomorrow night tomorrow night right we gotta go back to the old one man
Starting point is 00:02:13 it's the old one that's the epic one bro the old one no this is too funny some water down like so it's like a nigger like so we negotiated nothing so we negotiated so what you told my negotiations nigger where in blue face
Starting point is 00:02:32 that the negotiation shit was hilarious oh no No, we don't got it on this one. I got to play it. It's my motivation for Le Bebebe. Newsflash, because y'all all go tag Lebebebe and said, a street nigger can't agree to a fight with a nerd
Starting point is 00:02:55 and stop answering his phone. It's not a good look. We're doing daily checkups. We're not going to have to. I don't want it to get to a point where he's on the cover of a mill cart. where I'm over here Talk to me, Wham is Spider
Starting point is 00:03:15 Pick up the phone. I don't want to get there, okay? I don't want to get there. So we're trying to do daily checkups. We're trying to update them on what's going on the bout of the century, the perk fiend from Atlanta versus the door dasher
Starting point is 00:03:37 from New Jersey. Yes. This is going to be a battle for the ages, okay? Nah, I gotta find it Nick, what you want? A Honda Civic or something? That shit's too funny. Let's have to play that shit.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Is it this? No, it's not this, is it? As a man. How to, how to... No, no, not. Man, where is the one I like? Pause. It's like, yeah, we got to do a negotiation.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Think of what you want, nigga? Honda Civic or something? I need to find it. Hey, everybody get up in here. Please get up in here get up in here I can't find the old one now how did I find it last night Enali chopper Oh I'll just react to my video
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah I react to my video my video my video got it This is my stream from last night. It's up by the way Let's let's go find it again Let's go find it again Alright here I should publicize it and make it a thing so Let me this nigga talk about it about negotiation.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Niggas, it's time to squabble up. You talk about a negotiation, what you want, a Honda Civic? Yeah. Yo, I'm sorry. I don't know why that shit so funny to me. It's time to squabble up, nigga. What you want, a Honda Civic or something shit?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yo, send me that clip. I need this clip immediately, immediately. Everybody's good, though. I see everybody's getting in here. I see the Academy looking good. Okay, okay, everybody's good. Let me just play that real quick. You know, I mean, little baby is avoiding all calls.
Starting point is 00:05:23 What is that? Plan to fight. I just want to hit that one line. Oh, right here, right. Oh, okay. Here we go. All right here. Do it.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Then the niggots start putting shit in motion and you're like, well, wait, I didn't negotiate my terms of the deal. Like, what? What? You know everything is going to be contracted and written up. The flyer you're posted and you're talking about negotiations? Like, that sounds like some peace treaty shit, like some water down. What are you on? Could we squabbling or not?
Starting point is 00:06:05 Dead homies. Anyway, welcome, y'all. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Hey, real quick, little housekeeping. We are day four, really day five, but day four of February. I told you we're doing a 28 of 28. You never realize that February is a perfect month.
Starting point is 00:06:24 So if you look at February 26 on the calendars, it's supposedly it's the only date on the, or the only month on the calendar for another 11 years where the first lands on a Monday and the last date ends on a Saturday. Now, granted, it is a perfect 28 days, which is a perfect four weeks, but it's literally it aligns where every day, like the eighth day starts a new week, the 15th and the 22nd. That's actually dope. So maybe it's a sign, you know, I did this podcast.
Starting point is 00:07:01 We're into Mad Numer a lot. numerology stuff. I'm not really, but maybe that's a sign. I don't know, right? But it's the perfect month. Starts on the first, ends on the 28th. 28th is a Saturday, and first is a Sunday. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:14 We're day four into the 28 of 28, but we're actually day five into consecutive streams, but it's all good. Welcome, people. We've been doing late-night streams, and if you've missed it, you can spam one in the chat. I've missed you as well.
Starting point is 00:07:27 If you've been keeping up via our YouTube re-uploads, I appreciate that. as well if you've been keeping up on Facebook. Yes, we do upload clips on Facebook. Shout to my man Lazarus, who does that for us. And also, I did do a change, and this is a real quick, you know, we're just doing some housekeeping and stuff. I did do a change on Spotify,
Starting point is 00:07:44 because I realized that people don't realize that we're uploading on Spotify. So I made a real quick change. I believe it should be there today. The Academy, if we type in the Academy. Okay, okay. Actually, no, you don't even type in the Academy anymore. So on podcast, So Apple Podcasts or on Spotify, if you want to find these streams,
Starting point is 00:08:07 because that's how you prefer to listen or prefer to watch. Yes, the whole video is up there with audio. And I think you can just watch the audio bites or listen to the audio by itself. But if you do want to enjoy this, you know, stream on streaming services, all streaming services, you could go to your favorite streaming service. I'm showing you Spotify here. And all you need to type in is not the Academy anymore because I felt that was vague, right? our publishing, you know, company name is the Academy.
Starting point is 00:08:33 But the series name is now simply DJ Academics live streams. So, right here. Well, hopefully that doesn't get confused with my personal profile, but whatever. If you type in DJ Academics live streams, it will come with this. You click on this. It will be a podcast. It has every single one. This is from Wednesday or today, actually, because it was uploaded after we finish stream.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Tuesday, Sunday, and so and so forth. You guys could go back and watch all of these. So I've made it simple for the people who feel like they could not find our live stream due to the company name, the Academy, that publishes it. Now you could just find it by just typing in DJ Academics Live Streams on your favorite podcast choice, and you'll be able to find it, all right? The change will go active today on Apple Music as well and Amazon and whatever else. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Next thing before we get into it, and I hate doing a mad announcement, but I got to make sure you guys are in the know. We'll start off running after this. Once again, once again, giving you an update. We announced two days ago we announced that we have tickets on sale for our first live show in Florida. Yes, academics is coming to Florida. Coming to Florida for, it's really a chat nigger show. We have a lot of things planned in the live space this year.
Starting point is 00:10:00 But specifically, we're doing live shows where I'm trying to do a combination of what I do on stream, but also bring different elements to it. It's going to be a really engaging variety show. I did a sort of it, you know, kind of like a blueprint of it at my birthday show at Gramacy Theater in New York. But we're doing this in Miami this time around. Tickets have been moving. And I think we only have about like 10 VIP or meet and greed tickets left. you guys like the majority of people have like purchased VIP or um meet and greet so like if you do
Starting point is 00:10:33 want to meet me chop it up with me take a shout with me take a selfie whatever you know we can have some pictures uh make sure you guys go get that there's approximately only 10 left so there's about 10 tickets left in terms of VIP meet and greet tickets and then there's there's a bunch of other tickets left in terms of just general, you know, admission, okay? Please go support that, all right. Mods, you guys go pin that link and I look forward to see you guys. The date is March 27, save the date, okay? It's about two months from now.
Starting point is 00:11:08 About 50 days. Okay. All good. All good. Last night, and I got to get some feedback here, we're starting to like, because of the frequency of our streams, I'm starting to like, start to organize it a little bit better because usually I get on here
Starting point is 00:11:28 and I'm just riffing the whole time but like I'm realizing okay we should have segments where I read the chat I should have segments where I read donations I should acknowledge members at certain times rather than being a jumbled mess I'm trying to get there okay even though I like the freestyle aspect
Starting point is 00:11:42 of it being a stream and it being live we kind of want to have a little bit of structure because at the end of things you know what I mean there's a lot of moving parts right and we do stream on multiple platforms so I'm kind of getting to that and I'm thank you guys for your patience. I will say this,
Starting point is 00:11:56 and I will be opening up the chat real quick to, you know, just get a little bit of feedback here because last stream, it felt good. The last two streams felt good for me. I'm going to tell you why. Like, I started off the stream
Starting point is 00:12:07 kind of with like a monologue. It felt like it was like an agenda, something that it was either a hot topic that I either had a hot take on for the day or it was something that I, you know, you know, had strong passion for. And I led with the monologue. Went on for 10, maybe 15.
Starting point is 00:12:24 15 minutes, but you know me. I talk a lot, maybe even 20, who knows, maybe 30. And after that, we kind of went into topics. And I thought that was a good flow. I really liked last night. So I'm wondering if you guys like the opening monologues or do you guys just want me to get straight to the topics. Because obviously for the people who might be like, chill out with the monologues, when I do do topics, I go on to rant sometimes and tangent. So I'm just trying to figure out how to optimize what we do here. I think we have a really unique show. And I want to optimize it that you guys feel like. like this is, you know, if you don't feel like it already, this is the best show on earth, right? So that's what I'm trying to get some feedback from you guys. Did you guys like the monologue? No. You know, obviously, I also did some breakdown on business stuff. We have to be diverse. I want to know how you guys feel about all of those. Keep it up?
Starting point is 00:13:11 Okay, great. Perfect, perfect, perfect. Perfect. Thank you guys. Really. Okay, good. Yeah, somebody said, I pity the fool who thinks the week starts on Monday. No, the week actually starts on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:13:24 But that's what's acknowledged in the United States. I think in other places in the world, they actually look at it very different, right? Some places, I believe I could be wrong about this. In some countries, they acknowledge the week because we kind of look at it as the work week. Some other places look at the week as starting on Saturday or on Monday, right? The people who are like, there's some countries that are very work-centric, so they match everything with work. They look at and acknowledge the week as starting on Monday. We acknowledge it starting on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:13:51 just like and this is a lot of different things as you go around the world you realize a lot of different changes for example if you go to the UK the way how they write their date is not month day year they actually do day month year right that's that's how they they do their nomenclature about that and um yeah and and just many other little things that you'll realize varies from you know country to country, right? Also, like, you know, the fiscal year. The fiscal year is different from the standard year. There's a Chinese year.
Starting point is 00:14:31 There's all type of different acknowledgments of time, but time is still constant because 60 seconds is still a minute in every culture and 24 hours is still a day, right? Those things are kind of scientifically ordained, right? Okay, let's get into it. So, you know, today while I was, you know, I'm doing my research, I'm like, all right, cool. I'm going to do it earlier stream. Let's figure out some things to talk about.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And actually was something that really brought me down a rabbit hole. And I love when I go down these rabbit holes because I realize you guys are interested in some of the same stuff. The question is, is the music industry dying, honestly? And the reason why I'm putting this question to the audience, but to everyone, is that you know, in the last two years, and I myself has even said, you know what, the battle of Kendrick Lamar and Drake, it was great at the moment, but it's kind of done more harm than good, right? And my idea for that is that it's turned the industry into a two-man show, right? It's turned it into size Democrat Republican or whatever you might want to call it.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Rather than people focusing on the majority of artists. been a two-person race, but oftentimes when two of the biggest artist beef, it now becomes super polarized. I figured that it didn't help the culture, and I've been one of the people that said, you know what, even though I benefited, yes, me and other media people who were either mentioned or directly involved, and I think Kendrick and Drake, we all benefited from the battle. I do believe in post, over a long period of time, the culture and the music has not been helped by it. Now, I'll be one to admit, maybe I've given that particular battle a little bit too much blame because there's other mitigating factors that we haven't considered.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And I'll lay certain ones out. Number one, here we go. The straight up fact is this. Labels just aren't invested as much money anymore, right? So before, you know, remember last night I told you guys there's a deletion of the middle class of hip hop and just rappers in general. But labels aren't given these lofty budgets or these plush, like, you know, advances to these artists that they could go out and try to create some buzz and create some steam or use that money on a marketing level to generate buzz for some of these artists.
Starting point is 00:17:02 A lot of the labels these days, they're planning by the approach. We own your catalog. We're just going to sit back. If you look at the top 50 albums, right? If you look at the top 50 albums right now, even for this new coming week, let me see, here we go. You'll see Don Tolliver, who just dropped an album. By the way, salute to him.
Starting point is 00:17:21 He's about due 135. the baby is actually on here he's about to do around 27 but you're going to see a bunch of old albums on here you have michael jackson which is a legacy album that's on here you have drake take care this album dropped 2011 right you're going to see like the majority of hip-hop albums you know don't be dumb did drop was dropped a few weeks ago so that is current slime cry is still current um we're not going to count sizzle we're just going to count mostly hip-hop but you'll notice that the you might see one or two new hip-hop albums pop up but When you look at the Billboard Top 200,
Starting point is 00:17:55 and that's the album, the full album chart that gets published every week. I don't know if we'll be able to see it sometimes. They act up on this site. Here we go, charts. Let's go to 200. Here's the, not the artist. No, no, no. Come on.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Come on. Come on. No. Here we go. Search charts. Billboard 200, yes. What we'll notice, and hopefully it doesn't be like, log in. But whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:21 What you'll notice is that there's a. a lot of old albums. This is from last week. Drake Take Care was in the top 20. Right? Let's keep it going. Views was in the top 30. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:35 We have Fetty Wap's album. We all know he just came home from jail. Some Sexy Songs for You. It was a two-year-old album at this point, right? It was about two-year-old album? Or no, it's a year-old, right? How old is some sexy songs for you? Regardless, that's up there, even though it's necessarily not hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I am the drama. That is a newer album. That's up there. GnX is an album from a year ago Gunna has an album, whatever, but we see Good Kid Mad City. We see Curtain Call by Eminem, right? And we see Antai, even though I said I was going to stick to hip-hop, but anti was released in 2016.
Starting point is 00:19:08 It is now 2026. It's 10 years old. Now, that might be popping up literally just off the fact it's a 10-year anniversary. Certified Loverboard was dropped in 2020. And if you keep scrolling down, we're going to realize graduation dropped in 2004. Music was dropped in 2025.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I'll give you that. For all the dogs, it dropped in 2022, I believe. And thank me later. We get in 2009. And I hope you guys are getting my drift here. Scorpion, 2018. 2014, Hills Forest Hills, Hills Drive. I believe that was dropped in 2013 or 2015.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I don't think it was dropped in that year. But regardless, it's a 10-year-old album anyway, right? Damn dropped in 2016. I hope you're getting my drift. I hope you're getting my drift. if there is no new, there's not an abundance of new hip-hop albums that is, you know, populating this list. It's essentially a bunch of old records that essentially labels don't have to promo. Why these albums have lasted the test of time.
Starting point is 00:20:05 People like him and people keep playing him. Now, there's a lot of implications behind that. They usually could tell you, you know, if Uzi's album from 2018 is popping up on a 2026 list, they're probably just not promoting his newer shit. Like they're not spending money. Or they're not spending money. They're either spending money. Well, they're never spending money on the old shit.
Starting point is 00:20:24 They're just not spending money on the new shit to compete. So you see the labels have literally taken the approach more life from 2018. Is it 2018? No, no, 2016, sorry. Goodbye Good Ridans. I think this is 2017. Again, I'm going through the list here. We're not seeing a bunch of, you know, Massa did come out last year.
Starting point is 00:20:44 What else? What else? What else? Heroes and Villains. This is an older album, too. I can remember what year that came out. Big X of plug, he's always doing pretty good. That's of the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:20:54 But Gary Chetrian is on here, 2003. I think you guys get my drift, right? We got Astro World on here. We have a whole, nothing was the same from 2013. DS2, that's from 2016. We're really at this point looking at a list that is honestly charted a bunch of songs and albums that have been out for years or if not decade plus. Now, let me tell you something about a billboard charts.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Unlike the, you know, unlike the rap charts in terms of, well, not rap charts, sorry. Unlike the Hot 100, which is the singles charts, after you've had a consecutive run on the charts, you can't make the charts after a certain week unless you're in the top, like, 35. And what that does is it deletes a bunch of entries from people who, who their songs are, so popular, but it's old as shit. The Billboard album charts doesn't do that. Now, granted, whether you're on the charts is not your album or single still makes money. But what we notice is that there's nothing new that's competing.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Now, I just want to point out that fact before I get into the real part of the soliloquy, which is this. The music industry right now, I believe, is in dire, it's in a dire, real desperate position. I've been giving you the history of music. I've given you guys a qualitative breakdown of the history of TikTok. Everything plays a part into what we're seeing now. But when we think about why music seems to be so dead, the first thing I would say is that there's no investment or there's no substantial investment from labels.
Starting point is 00:22:39 They're relying on the catalog that they own. Hence, old albums keep populated and new projects, they're not getting funded. The labels are looking at it like we own most of those old records anyway. We're just going to keep fattened up our pockets. without having to invest because our investments are not necessarily turning the biggest profits. So that's one of the reasons music isn't like that. Second reason, I'll throw in the Drake and Kendrick thing. I do think it made, I'm talking about hip-hop specifically, actually.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I do think it made the space a little bit weird. I feel like most fans are kind of either this or this. Like, it's rare you find someone who say, hey, fuck what you're talking about. I love Drake and Kendrick. You're going to have someone who says, fuck Drake. I love Kendrick. or they're going to say fuck Kendrick. I love Drake. It's really polarizing. There are sides in hip-hop at this point.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Now, other than that is that, you know, the music business is behind the scenes trying to figure out if this is a moment to pivot. And I already thought this, but I got confirmation on this by watching an interview, which a brilliant interview. We're not going to watch a whole thing here. I'm going to play a little bit of it for you guys. the music business Remember I told you about TikTok And what happened with piracy Early 2000s
Starting point is 00:23:58 The music business once again Are at a inflection point They got it They're at a fork in a row They got to pick what they're going to do Here's a choice The choice Is how do you handle AI
Starting point is 00:24:13 And a lot of people Forgot this But what do you do when the people who you rely on for revenue tell you you've squeezed all you can out of the lemon. There's nothing more to get. In any business,
Starting point is 00:24:39 it always tries to scale. It expands. You invest more and more because you want to get more and more. But what happens if there is a signaling that we've peaked? There's nothing more to get. Yet, at that point, the business either slowly dies or the investment stop or you need a pivot. That's where music is at.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I'm going to walk you through this. The peak of, and this sent an alarm around all the major label systems, right? When Spotify announced that streaming growth have. slowed okay they said hey we're not growing anymore because remember in 2015 2014 they switched and adopted to work is streaming first year over year the streaming companies told the majors we're growing we doubled last year's income we're growing here we're growing there Well, over the last 18 months, the streaming companies have told the major labels really bad news. It's not like we're going down, but we're not growing anymore.
Starting point is 00:26:13 What does that mean? They're basically telling Universal, we've kind of milked all that we can in terms of revenue out of the existing market, which this is a business model. Check it out. the the you know the streaming company gets subscribers to pay $9 a month or $20 on a family plan
Starting point is 00:26:36 whatever it is they divvy up that money over I think they have over 300 million people that are actually subscribed to Spotify and they divvied up and they paid out to mostly the labels
Starting point is 00:26:46 they pay out to independent artists but mostly the labels so the labels are cool with that exchange because you're saying we'll keep producing music we'll keep invested in music you need to keep monetizing the music we're investing in and putting out.
Starting point is 00:27:03 It's being on your platforms. Spotify, for the very first time it's told them because, you know, Spotify while competing with Apple Music, they were boasting like, hey, we passed them. There was a silent arms race, so to speak, if you know what the arms race is back in World War I or World War II, whatever it was. It's basically Spotify and Apple Music, we're silently competing with, like, putting out these press releases say, hey we have 300 or we had 150 million subscribers now we have 200 and they were competing essentially in 2024 2025 they delivered some bad news we're not seeing the increases that we used to see what does that mean we damn near got everybody on streaming that's going
Starting point is 00:27:46 get on streaming do you get what I'm saying they've basically said we're not getting the increase in subscribers to show significant revenue growth growth that we could keep paying out these labels more and more money. Now, it doesn't mean it didn't increase. It's just that the increase is slowing down. So imagine every year you double your money. So you go from 10,000 to 20,000 to 40,000, 80,000, and then eventually, let's say after 80,000, you go from 80,000 to 85,000. You're going to say, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:28:21 I thought I was doubling my shit. That's the problem. Huge problem. Now, let me read this article. This is from 2024. Business may be good for Universal Music Group, which published its latest quarterly financial results. However, the major labels have raised an alarm
Starting point is 00:28:36 about a slowest subscriber growth as some of the biggest global streaming companies. The Q2 numbers, which is 2024, revenue is up 8.7%. Okay? And with recorded music, up 5.8 and published it up 10%. With record music, UMG saw 6.5 uptick in revenue, so they saw an increase.
Starting point is 00:28:54 but the phrase used to describe free services was down. Okay, physical continued to grow, blah, blah. Okay, look, all positive, right? No. Well, that's where we get to the comment about DSPs. During the earnings meeting, the EVP, which is the guy that reports to Lucian Grange, noted that the deceleration and growth for recorded music subscription revenue was happening. So they're not getting as much money from the streaming companies as they used to.
Starting point is 00:29:21 The timing of the price increase, which, by the way, so they, they, They get mad at Spotify in them. And Spotify say, the only way we could get more money out of this lemon, any more juice out of the lemon, we're not getting more people at that much of a rapid rate. We kind of got everybody on here that's going to be on here. They said the only thing we could do, we could raise the price.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Universal says, we don't give a fuck what you do. Get the money. We need the money. We need more money. Spotify agrees that they're going to raise the price about like a dollar. He was going to bring in like hundreds of millions of dollars in additional revenue because they're going to raise the price. But, yeah, so essentially, UMG was saying,
Starting point is 00:30:07 it's not that they're increasing and switching, it's really more about the competition for new subscribers. Services are growing faster, doing a better job. But essentially, they're saying the money isn't coming in fast enough. I don't want to be too laborious in what I'm reading to confuse you. I want to just make it very simple. The anticipated income in what they thought streaming was going to do for the music, business has slowed down. It's making UMG a little bit nervous and all the other
Starting point is 00:30:36 companies. When they get a little bit nervous, they're wondering if is streaming about to be cooked? Remember, back in the 2000s, they were late to the party. They'll never be late to the party again. They're forecasting. If we're slowing down a revenue, we'll at this, will at some point streaming the bubble burst. That's where they're at. Now, this is a really interesting thing. And if you guys have listened to some of my business conversations or business breakdowns, you'll understand where the music business is for this, like in this weird time, and I want to match it up with the movie industry. Okay?
Starting point is 00:31:17 Let me make this analogy and then I'm going to play a part of this interview. The music industry realizes that it has a second chance to do what it should have done initially. What should have they have done? I'm going to compare it to movies and I'm going to compare to film. So I always tell you that the major labels, they live off catalog. It's all about catalog. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:31:43 The two mistakes that the music industry made and the film industry made is that because they only cared about owning the rights to the movies, the TV shows, or the music, they never cared about necessarily the distribution. they thought you can't distribute whether it's the Avengers or whether it's like whatever popular show, which people are going to want to see without us. So we don't need to concern ourselves with distribution. We just need to own the rights. Let me tell you how that worked out for the TV industry. The TV industry then basically said, hey, you know, we have a bunch of catalog that essentially no one watches anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:34 we don't really make too much money on them anymore. Blockbuster is out of here. Here comes a small company at the time. His name is Netflix. It says, hey, you got this old show. We'll license it. Oh, you got a Chappelle show? Oh, we'll lice in it.
Starting point is 00:32:52 They're like, well, we're not playing it no more. Whatever. They licened it to Netflix. Over time, what Netflix does is Netflix gains a subscriber base by promoting and, you know, hey, using really interested market tactics. they get a subscriber base and they start getting revenue, Netflix start making their own shows to put alongside these already old shows that they're licensing from these movie studios and television networks.
Starting point is 00:33:20 The television networks are watching this happen, but they're like, yeah, you guys go through that burden, we're good. We own all the good shit. We own the Avengers. We own Harry Potter. We own everything. I think you know how the story goes, right? Netflix leverages.
Starting point is 00:33:39 licensing, making their own shit. And at a certain point, we're in the status we're at now, Warner Brothers pitchers, which is one of the biggest, you know, like the WB11 or WB, like we all know, Warner Brothers logo, it's now being bought by Netflix. So Netflix is buying this. So just think about this. You make the product, but you license it to somebody down the street.
Starting point is 00:34:08 They figure out a way to sell your old shit. To the point, they end up buying you. The deal for Warner Brothers is currently pending, but it looks like Netflix will absorb Warner Brothers. A very ironic stick, right? Now, other people took a little bit different path. A lot of people saw that Netflix, you know, the cord cutters started happening.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Everybody started going digital. It's all became about streaming. Yes, going to the movies is a fire experience, but definitely people realize that, people realize people realize that you know
Starting point is 00:34:50 that experience isn't that worthwhile that sitting in your bedroom with your girl doing Netflix and chill ain't even better rather than try to fucking public at a movie theater
Starting point is 00:34:59 you get a little hand job and get a little mouth action while you watch your favorite show in the comfort of your bed you know what I mean so some people got
Starting point is 00:35:08 onto the train later who introduce Paramount Pitchers now Paramount is also another movie company. They were also into licensing. They realized Netflix was growing fast and fast and fast.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Every year Netflix was announcing all of these new subscribers they were getting. Here's what Warner Brothers and Paramount didn't do. They thought, hey, we have all these robust contracts with the television networks, with the cable companies. You can't get around us. Yeah, some people might stream it. But at the end of the day, you'll never replace TV. Boy, were they wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:57 So now, what Paramount did, Paramount at a point said, whoa, this ain't, this ain't looking good. Another company realized how Netflix is growing, and where the trend was going, their name you might be familiar with it is Disney. They said, oh, this ain't good. What both companies do is they say, we need to compete with Netflix.
Starting point is 00:36:22 They both announced streaming platforms. One name Paramount Plus, the other name Disney Plus. And they finally said we're going to stop licensing our content to Netflix. If you want Disney product, you've got to come to Disney Plus. Here's the thing. It was already too late. Netflix is a behemoth. They were already creating their own, you know, some people would say really dope shows from within.
Starting point is 00:36:52 they already were playing both roles. They started out as a licensing company, and then they started making content as if they were a studio, and they start making content that could compete with the Warner Brothers, with the Disney,
Starting point is 00:37:06 with the Paramount, and their own product started. It's like basically, you do know Walmart, when you see the Walmart brand right next to the name brand, if Walmart gets it right, they want to get the name brand out of there.
Starting point is 00:37:21 They get more money off of their shit. Anyway, Disney Plus starts up, Paramount starts up. They don't want to compete, okay? However, I want to show you, I want to show you what it looks like when you're too late to adjust to the changing climate. Remember, these are big companies that Netflix came to and says, y'all old shows you don't air, we'll license them. We'll just give you money if we could just put them on our streaming service. They said, you really want this?
Starting point is 00:37:59 Nobody's watching it on our TV networks right now. And Netflix said, don't worry, take these millions. We'll put, just give us the rights to have them on our shit. And they gained enough subscribers till they start making their own shit. Then Paramount and Disney said, oh, we're taking our shit back. We're going to make our own thing. Let's look at how this is fared. Even though, you know, currently the market is kind of down.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Netflix market cap is three. $338 billion. Okay. Warner Brothers market cap $67 billion. Netflix is six times theoretically as valuable as Warner Brothers. Paramount. Well, right now it's called Paramount Skydance market cap. It's kind of not necessarily accurate, but $11.52 billion.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And if you realize Disney market cap $189 billion. That's not only the movie studio. That's all their theme parks. That's everything Disney. That's Mickey Mouse everything. What's the lesson there? The lesson really is these companies should have never handed over their shit to Netflix to get Netflix to become the behemoth that became that now Netflix is buying them.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Y'all see where I'm going? I see where I'm going? So let's go to music. In early 2000s, there's a tailspin in the street. They don't know how to deal with piracy. They're like, what the fuck? We're losing money. We're hemorrhagen.
Starting point is 00:39:54 We're in debt. We see, like, for example, Warner Music Group gets sold a bunch of times. Like, it gets absorbed into, like, you know, Time Warner, AOL, then you get let go. And it's all over the place. They can't figure out how to make consistent revenue and revenue that's growing because people are stealing music. By the way, the movies. or the movie companies, they went through the same thing, but the experience of going to a movie is more irreplaceable
Starting point is 00:40:26 than the experience of listening to a song. Who cares if you bought a CD to listen to a song or if you download it illegally or your man burned it on a CD illegally too. Who cares? It's the same song. Whether someone copy and pasted it, who cares the same song? But watching a movie in an AMC theater, that has a little bit of a cachet to it. So they've fared better than the music industry. Well, the music industry eventually did.
Starting point is 00:40:50 They fought piracy for a bit. And then here comes later on the tech companies. And this is what the important thing is. Netflix, as you might think, is a video company. It's not. Netflix is a tech company. Their tech is streaming. Here comes the tech company that tries to save music.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Spotify. Spotify is not a music company in its originality. It's a tech company It's tech was the solution To solve piracy That it was easier, safer, cleaner Affordable For people to listen to music
Starting point is 00:41:38 Based on how they were consuming it at the time People were running rampants with P to P peer to peer downloads and shit If you gave them away and say it's only 10 bucks You pay 80 bucks for your phone bill Like only 10 bucks you get every song You don't have to download it. We're going to host it and you're going to stream the song.
Starting point is 00:41:55 You don't have to host it. I used to, you know, statute of limitations going, I used to have a computer with goddamn, damn there was so many gigabytes of music. I was a DJ. So Spotify comes in and they give a tech solution to the music business problem. I hope you're getting where I'm going to. Just like the movie industry and the film industry, the TV industry, are you starting to realize what probably should have happened?
Starting point is 00:42:26 The labels should have instantly said, we're going to invest our money into tech and have people come to us. Now, they did what Warner Brothers did with Netflix. Okay, if you give us a couple billion dollars, or actually it was hundreds of millions at a time, if you give us some money, we will license our entire music catalog to you.
Starting point is 00:42:58 It happened and it worked. All three major labels did it. Streaming became a thing. Spotify started and really kicked the door open to the market. Apple Music joined us shortly after, and Amazon announced the music division where they wanted to compete as well. Streaming was born.
Starting point is 00:43:14 But the problem I just pointed out with the Netflix and the movie studios is going to exacerbate it. What am I saying? Well, now your music has built Spotify as a company with 300, 400 million subscribers. Let me ask you a question. What stops Spotify from buying Warner? Or what stops Spotify from buying Sony? Or what stops them from buying Universal?
Starting point is 00:43:47 Now, there's some caveats and things that are contractually publicly known. Like, for example, you know, in some of these deals, it was leveraged with some equity for like universal and Spotify to make it where this company isn't just like a standalone company that could end up just buying the whole music industry. But essentially, let me point this out to you. We might not have the full numbers yet because I don't think their first, first quarter. Okay. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'm trying to find their full royalty. Spotify revenue, 2024. Okay. So in 2024, they made $16 billion. million dollars okay from that 16 billion clearly they're going to pay out a bunch of license fees and splits however it kind of comes down but what's important to know right what's important to know is look at this Spotify their market cap right is 90 billion dollars remember I told you Warner Music gets sold 2004 for 2.6 10.6
Starting point is 00:45:42 invests in UMG, Chinese company invests in UMG, for $3 billion, got an additional 10%. Their stake is 20% at this point. And the current evaluation or valuation of UMG is $36 billion. Did you get what I'm going with this? Just like how Netflix became more valuable than all of the studios that it relied on initially for content we're at an inflection point
Starting point is 00:46:14 where the only way for Spotify to go if they're claiming they can't get the same growth on subscribers is for them to start encroaching on the music that they're licensing. Spotify has a fiduciary duty to their own investors just like Universal and Sony and even Warner Music.
Starting point is 00:46:36 At some point, Spotify's going to announce we're either buying one of these motherfucking labels or fuck these niggis. Now there's contractual stuff where they can't completely act as a label because it would be competing with your partners that you license for.
Starting point is 00:46:51 But eventually, whenever the next big negotiation is, they're going to now say, where the label. They're worth more than all three major labels combined. So theoretically, it was thought of like Universal, the biggest boy on the block is swinging their dick around.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Well, are they really anymore? given the fact the biggest company in the mix is Spotify. This is why Spotify has, you know, sought to get different revenue and different users. They have expanded outside of just music. They've included podcasts. They're doing series. They're playing in short films. Eventually, when that relationship breaks down a little bit more, they're going to buy.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be Warner. I think it's going to be Warner five years. Mark, clip this video, five years. If Warner has this last, it's a last ditch effort in what they did. They consolidated. They're trying to save money, but they're now investing to see if it's going to work. If it doesn't work, it's going to be a tailspin of too much debt. Let's get out from under this.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Hopefully, you know, Spotify is going to play their licensing contracts well. And what Spotify is going to do, they're going to say, hey, you broke-ass motherfuckers who licensed all your content to us while we gained all the subscribers. and we have the people, we'll buy you. That's where we're at. This is really, and, you know, it's rare that I listen to a guy, and I'm like, wow, I can see why this guy's so fucking prolific and smart.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Jimmy Iveen did an interview. It was so good. I'm not going to have you listen to the whole thing. It's two hours if you're in the music industry. You should. But what he's going to say here about the music business, he's right on the motherfucking money. Okay?
Starting point is 00:48:49 Hold on. Listen to this chat. Is it here? What's the next bite of the apple? The record industry now. Okay, here we go. Here we go. So I think even more than I just did,
Starting point is 00:49:13 he accurately pinpoints where the music industry is at. And he makes a very distinct point. The problem with music, just like the movies, they have never had a direct relationship with their audience. Imagine selling a product, but you don't know where your audience lives. By the way, they pay millions of dollars to sound scan or now lumet it for that data company to tell them, right? They don't talk to the fans usually when they were selling out a Best Buy and FYE. They dealt with the customers and now Spotify deals with the customers.
Starting point is 00:49:48 So what do you think about it? Warner Brothers never had any type of conversations with their audience. They let Netflix and they let AMC deal with it. Now when that needs to be the thing to connect the dots, they're basically drowning. Listen to Jimmy Iveen explained on David Senra show what the new thing is. And by the way, I'm all the way with him. I think he's so smart. If you don't know, Jimmy Iveen is the guy who found Interscope Records.
Starting point is 00:50:16 He is the guy who at a certain point. So we have Kendrick, we have, who else, well, we have Kendrick. We have 50 cents. Was it Led Zeppelin? There's all the type of people that came from Interscope Records. He's the big guy there. At a certain point, he left the music business after he developed a product that was called Beats.
Starting point is 00:50:37 He developed a headphone and acquired this music service. And his idea was ahead of the time. By the way, two people who are so genius in this music industry is Jimmy I. Vien and also Lierre Cohen. Lerick-Cohen left the major label system at the right time. Remember he was going around with Doug for a while? He left at the right time when he realized that once you got an artist popular, you had to get him to 360. He introduced a 360.
Starting point is 00:51:04 He wasn't that liked by a lot of people. But he realized that with streaming now becoming the thing, the labels were really the streaming companies, bitch. You know what he did? He left the labels. He left his independent label, which is 300. He left it under the care of Kevin Lyles and Tom Moskowitz, who Tom Moskowitz later left to go create his own thing over by Alamo. Alamo now signs or did sign. Dirk were actually still sign.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Dirk and also Rod Wave. Rod Wave saved that label. Yeah, Gucci 1017 was over there for a while too. But yeah. So the point is this, 300. Lear Cohen leaves his baby. Why? He realizes the future is the DSPs. Where does he go?
Starting point is 00:51:42 He goes lead Google Music. Lear's never came back to the side of the labels after he's left for a DSP. So he left his own baby, 300, and went to Google Music. Never came back. And him, Jimmy Iveen, left his baby Interscope records, which is a behemoth in Universal. So it's under Universal. And he goes to, he does a deal for beats by Dre and beats music for like $4 billion to Apple. And he gets a board seat there and they put him in charge of Apple Music until all of his shares mature.
Starting point is 00:52:27 he cashes out for billions of dollars, then he leaves. Larry Jackson, who was his underling who signed Chief Kephet, Interscope Records, went over there. He's the one who's like, you know, the disruptor. He gets Drake to do the exclusive that helps build streaming. 2016, I'm giving you the history of all this shit, people. But listen to what he says about the music business now, and I completely agree because he's pointing at another inflection point,
Starting point is 00:52:53 and he says labels need to invest in AI rather than drag their feet and another AI tech company comes in later and they're the new Spotify. Listen to them. Half that. Together. It gets really smart.
Starting point is 00:53:12 It's like for the longest time, we sold it. Now you can't sell it anymore. I'm talking about music. So it, and you're not going to agree with this, it becomes advertising or marketing. These songs become advertising and marketing for an other product. can sell, whether it's concerts, they were on concerts back in the day, products, all this other
Starting point is 00:53:27 stuff that they're doing. Like, you had that insight before, in the music industry, before anybody else. No, not before anybody else. Here, listen to him. Hip hop. Listen. Listen. You're right, because they were doing the shoes, the sneakers, the alcohol. Yes. Def Jam, Adidas. Did they influence your thinking on this? Absolutely. I get, I owe African American culture. So, he's going to get to a point where he says he left the labels once he realized that they weren't selling a product. And because he was under contract with the labels, he had to wait till Vivendi, who had some ownership in UMG,
Starting point is 00:54:08 and Interscope was under UMG, he was banned from selling a product featuring the likeness or exploiting the likeness of the signed artists. He would have to go to them for permission. so he wanted to sell headphones and basically he said the labels only wanted to put out music while they're looking like
Starting point is 00:54:30 wait why aren't we capitalizing off all of this shit and eventually that's when he made the headphones and took it to Apple. Oh much. I have a debt to black culture. Why do you think rap? Because I grew up on hip-up. I told you like
Starting point is 00:54:45 it's still almost all the stuff I listen to now. Why did they figure out how to monetize, I hate using that word, or make money off music, do other, besides selling music for anybody else, then. Because they're practical and they see the truth and they saw what it was.
Starting point is 00:54:59 What's the next bite at the Apple? The record industry now can rewrite the, guess the luxury of rewriting the book with AI. They can-A-I created music. Yeah, creative music, interact, many things. It isn't just creating a song. It's- No, I hate that I'm pausing it here, but if you gotta watch a whole thing,
Starting point is 00:55:20 didn't get some of the concept. He also said that he understood that what AI is not just what we're seeing it now, that someone could use someone's voice to do over a song or get lyrics made up by an AI program. He said, you know, he gave a story that he was in a studio with like, you know, this band. And someone comes in and they come in with like this machine. And he's used to having a drummer in the studio. And this guy came in and said, and he said to guy, what the fuck are you doing? Like, you're in the middle of a session. And he says, I'm, I'm setting up a drum machine. He said that was the guy who invented the drum machine,
Starting point is 00:55:55 which essentially replaced actual drum sets in music. So he's like, when people think about AI, you have to realize music is not made by actual instruments anymore. AI has always been involved. If you're using a synth, a pad, if you're using a drum kit, you take a loop, it's AI in some form, maybe very, very basic, but it's AI. So he's saying, how come the record industry has not embraced this?
Starting point is 00:56:24 Which I think is a really unique way to think about it. You know, the whole premise is that the record industry and even the movie industry have never embraced tech, they run away from it. Remember we talked about TikTok last night or two nights ago? They took their music down from, from, they took their music down from TikTok because of AI. They don't want AI nowhere near it. And he's saying, you've got to embrace it. Because just like how you didn't embrace streaming, here comes Spotify. And you guys are losing money.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Spotify then becomes bigger than you guys because they are, they turned their licensing shit into gaining the audience, which you guys never cared about. Listen. It's how you listen to music, everything. It affects, it can affect everything. So there is, let's say, hypothetically, I'm right in the record industry, you weren't wrong is not fair. didn't take advantage of it didn't optimize the streaming thing what would optimizing
Starting point is 00:57:24 be they would have their own distribution that would be essentially so he's saying that how is universal music group not having his own Spotify and they have to submit music on a on a scheduled process to another company they don't own like Spotify doesn't own the user data
Starting point is 00:57:42 right so they don't know necessarily who's listening to the music they have to go hire some third party to figure out who's listened to the music. So they hand over their product to a tech company that puts it out. They don't know how to contact the people who are listened to it. And it's something that's like really, you know, it's meant for the streaming company and not the music industry. Be optimizing.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And they don't, right? They have another bite at the apple right now. It could start all, ring the bell all over again, etch a sketch, and go back into. But where they can make a giant mistake, in my opinion, okay, is if they start licensing their music to every dog and that comes in the door. That's what they did with Spotify. Which is their normal route of doing things. Yes, you gotta build enterprise around AI. I agree.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Now, you can't just give the enterprise to someone else. But you know everybody in the music industry, when you tell them this, what's their response that people in power right now? Well, all I can tell you will, I can't tell you everything that I'm doing because I think the labels are now realizing. And again, really, all I can tell you is universal music has invested in a project that we're doing called Complex that has the ability to go on and do a lot of these things that I'm talking about. It's media, it's live, pretty complex con, and it's e-commerce, right? I want to help the labels if I can, you know, build enterprise around AI and not just be licensed always. I just felt that way about streaming and I feel even stronger about that.
Starting point is 00:59:30 They shouldn't be afraid of the tech. They shouldn't be. You don't have to understand something fully to do it. I'm proof of that. I don't understand fucking anything. You know what I mean? But I know how to get it. done, you know, I knew how to build a,
Starting point is 00:59:45 I didn't know how to build a headphone. People say to me, well, you're in your recording engineer. I said, Bruce Priestley and Keith Richard are the greatest guitar players and, you know, my favorite, you know, who's just a marketer and a really clever guy or girl? Now he starts giving props to
Starting point is 01:00:03 Daniel Eck, who is the CEO of Spotify. It's in my house. I can't predict the future. I have no, I overpaid for everything. I'm a retail guy. But But, you know, it's like, I do know one thing, but I don't understand. I hear a lot of these artists coming out against AI. So I come from a place where to get a record deal, going back to my, when I was a kid, right, in the music business.
Starting point is 01:00:28 You have to sing. You have to sing. That's a fact. Sometimes you have to write, but if you have arbitration, you have to sing. Frank Sinatra, you have to sing. Those people can really sing, you know, Sam Cook, who, can he sing. He can sing and write. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:42 Incredible, right? Steve, Wonder, there's a lot of people out now in the charts right now or being really successful selling out arenas that can barely sing happy birthday. So what I say to the people that are challenging AI, and they're doing that because of technology. You're like auto tune and stuff like this. Whatever the technology is. So my question is, what's the difference between somebody who could barely sing happy birthday, which is all over the charts right now for someone who can't sing happy birthday at all?
Starting point is 01:01:13 who's just a marketer and a really clever guy or girl that's sitting there mirror and did all the moves that everybody does you know they watched Madonna and like everybody else and say I can do that I can act like that so I don't understand the difference so yeah because the amount of technology invented for the music industry since you've been in it it's like you you told me yesterday that Prince did a whole album without a drummer and I was like what does that mean he's one of the first people to um to use the Lynn Drum Machine. See, the Lynn Drum Machine, I was produced in an album in the 70s, and I brought this guitar player in who, I thought it made me the first computer I ever saw, but it had a computer on the session. It was 1977, right?
Starting point is 01:02:00 And he had a computer on the session, and in between takes, rather than listen with the rest of us, he'd go put a pair of headphones on and go on the computer and do all that. And he looked at, I said, finally I said, to him, I said, amen. what what are you doing i mean you you know this is a session we're paying attention to the music he says well i'm i'm creating a drummer i'm creating machine that's going to play the drums i said well thank god because i i always had very i always had difficulty with drummers you know i
Starting point is 01:02:30 always felt anyway okay i think you guys kind of get it i don't want to like play the whole thing here i i spotify okay here we go this is what i wonder if you would agree with or not because when you were telling the story of the person that invented the drum machine. He was inventing it at necessity. He needed a sound for what he was making. I worry that if these are like professional managers in the music industry, like think about the official CEO and a founder. Yeah. Like you thought completely different because you're an entrepreneur. Like you were instinctively an entrepreneur. You were an entrepreneur. Well, the record producers is an entrepreneur. Record producers, but the people running the big company. But I was a record producer. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Like you had that instinct. But like there's one, almost they don't. They don't. see the necessity for it. And two, I don't even know if like a professional manager can then reinvent. Okay, come on. You disagree with that? I think what's happening is the music industry is finally moving into things they're afraid of. They just need some light. What you don't want to do is license the next AI Spotify and say, give me 3% of your company. That is that's kind of what UMG owns a Spotify like minuscule percent i think i forgot what the the percentage is how much of spotify well it's a public company so we should know does umg own yeah three 3.3 percent so you can tell this guy knows what he's talking about so you know again umg is the biggest music company it built
Starting point is 01:04:01 or hell it's catalog built Spotify and all they own yeah they've gained a lot of revenue but all they own is 3.3 percent you get what I'm saying Um, I forgot what, uh, Warner, Warner owns some to. WMG, let's see. WMG. Yeah, they're saying 1.9% and let's see what, um, SME, which is Sony music entertainment. I should just put Sony. It probably owns like little of nothing.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I actually might own more because Sony music entertainment is actually still under Sony. The company Sony. I love this AI, this Google AI thing right here. Okay, Sony Group owns about, yeah, 3%. So basically, all three major companies, their catalog built Spotify, and they own less than 10%. That's a big W, right? The greatest deal anyone's ever made.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Who gives a shit who owns 3% of my company, but your company Spotify? Exactly. So he's basically saying Spotify finessed all of them. Spotify's worth more than them. Spotify could buy each of them or all of them, and they only own 10% of Spotify. they have no console and stake.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Right? Right. I mean, it's absurd. So they have to grab the enterprise value of the new technology. But don't you think it's going to come outside? Like, one of my heroes is James Dyson. I told you about who? James Dyson, the vacuum cleaner guy. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:34 And one of his, who? I love it. And one of his heroes was Buckminster Fuller. And Buck Mr. Fuller has this quote where it's like, you don't fight the, like, if you want to change things, you don't fight the existing system. Okay. life so I felt real camaraderie with him I'm producing records I'm actually in the studio for okay okay he's doing the same thing out he's not even in the studio all night he goes home at six
Starting point is 01:06:01 o'clock all right all right then the only other relevant part is um he speaks initially about streaming and um he talks about why streaming is fundamentally fucked because essentially since there's not a product that is primarily bought, streaming is something that it's a pie. If they have 200 bucks, they give the money to whoever gets enough clicks. But that's not how most things usually work, right? Like, for example, if you know, things for your kid, things for your parents would cause differently for them as for you. They have the spending power, right?
Starting point is 01:06:45 if there's a bunch of kids on a family plan for Spotify, the parents are paying for it, but the parents are not going to sit there and listen to, you know, I don't know, Frank Sinatra 4,000 times. Somebody who likes Yeat, they have that shit on repeat the entire day. So when streaming revenue comes down, based on that one particular household, they're giving 90% of the money, even though the parents bought it because they want to listen when they're cleaning or when they're having a nice glass of wine. They want to listen Frank Sinatra. They wanted to listen to the Beatles.
Starting point is 01:07:15 The Beatles and these other people don't really get the money even though they're the reason for the subscription. The kids who are spamming Drake, Yeat, whatever, whatever, Drake and Yeat get the money. But it's fundamentally broken because the purchasing power doesn't really represent who gets paid from it. It's about who spams streams. Get what I'm saying? He's going to explain it to him. around industries a little bit and not to learn on the fly a lot, you know. So, but that was about around 2000, we had this little TV show called Jimmy and Doug's
Starting point is 01:07:56 Farm Club. It was about uploading your music to Interscope and we would put you on our TV show and it was fantastic and it worked. And what I really wanted to do was have a music streaming service of all you can eat. But this was before it was invented. There wasn't a, there wasn't, you were talking about the ideal situation before it was actually found it. Yeah, but you know, I see online all the time. People talk about shit before it happens. You know what I mean? But that, you know, that isn't, that's 10% of the game.
Starting point is 01:08:26 The game is getting it right. You know, MySpace was ahead of its time, but it lost the race. So I was very fortunate to be at least early enough to have Apple music get on the board. I had beats music. and then went to Apple Music. So we, at least we became number two. Daniel, who's extraordinary. Daniel is Daniel Eck, the CEO of Spotify.
Starting point is 01:08:55 This guy right here. All right. Had the wherewithal and the ability to get the licenses from a record business that didn't understand that all what he was talking about, the fact that he wrestled those licenses out. It's so, I mean, you can prove it. Because if you look at those deals, Those deals are reflective of the iTunes download market, 70-30.
Starting point is 01:09:25 That was the same business as the download market. So they just copied that, which is not a great bit model for that. Why? Because you have not enough money in the streaming service in order for it to really live. So they got to now go out and find different versions of revenue, right? And they pay 70% or whatever it is now 72% 7060. I don't know what the negotiations have been since then. And structured in a really odd way because let's say, for example, you're married, you have two kids and you have a family plan.
Starting point is 01:10:07 And you and your wife play the clash, the police, et cetera. But your kids play Drake and Kendrick Lamar all day. Most of the money from your house goes to Drake and Kendrick Lamar. What you're hearing about is that the artists are like, they used to be able to earn a living like that. But now, unless you're in that top chunk of heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy streaming, the money is not really meaningful.
Starting point is 01:10:42 So that's a problem that. have to fix. So there's been this fundamental issue with streaming. And I know some people say, I know we're waiting to the weeds. We're about to move on in a second. There's a fundamental problem with streaming on how it gets paid out for. Should, okay, let's say for every dollar, right, say there's three people in my household, I play music all day, but I'm playing NBA young boy, right?
Starting point is 01:11:09 Let's put it in percentages. 90% of the music that comes from this household is me playing and be a young boy. 5% of this music comes from someone else playing, I don't know, Bob Marley. And then the other 5% comes from someone playing Michael Jackson. Should that dollar be broken up to 90 cents for a young boy and 5 cents for Bob Marley and for Michael Jackson? Or should it be, hey, You paid a dollar.
Starting point is 01:11:52 You have played three artists. All three artists, despite the streams, split the dollar. That's a fundamental question. I hope you guys understand that. If you played three artists, we're going to take your dollar and divided by three. Each artist gets 33 cents. What that does, it doesn't reward certain listening habits. So, for example, kids will spam songs.
Starting point is 01:12:22 consistently by one particular artist over and over again. And that might outweigh other artists that are also consumed, but they're not getting spammed. So it's like this weird dilemma. And the people who have thoughts about this say, hey, listen, every artist get exposed since the streaming economy is, well, the streaming platform is based on a market that everybody contributes to. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:56 So Michael Jackson being on the platform contributes to the popularity of Spotify as long as Bob Marley. So regardless, if it's played once or played a thousand times, its contribution to the streaming service being popular at all for it to get the dollar, it means the money should be split. So there's a lot of different ways to look at how do you break down money in the music business and who deserves what? Should it be based on certain amount of how many times you stream? But then you're going to skew it in certain senses where, yeah, people are
Starting point is 01:13:30 spamming the same bad bunny songs all over and over again, the same Drake songs. They're playing not like us three million times. Do they just get all the money? What about the other people? If you only had a streaming service with Drake and Kendrick, would you have 300 million people paying $10? Or no, does a variety matter? How do you account for the variety? There's a lot of ways that they're still trying to figure out what's the right way on paying out for streams. Okay? You know, there's no question about that.
Starting point is 01:13:58 But there's a lot wrong with streaming, in my opinion. You know, it's one-dimensional. It's an ATM machine. You put your money in, you get your music. They don't do anything for the artist. See, the artists want to communicate with their fans, period. That's what they want. They want to communicate.
Starting point is 01:14:18 They want to market themselves. and the streaming services are still saying, we'll put you on our list if you're nice to us or if you like us. That's bullshit. You got to allow them to have your audience and let them breathe, which is what, you know, not for philanthropic reasons, but this is what TikTok does. That's what Instagram does.
Starting point is 01:14:43 You could somewhat promote yourself. So the streaming services to me are minutes away from being up. away from being obsolete because of that. You can't rub against the artist like that. You just can't. You got to- Okay. All right. And that's kind of like, you know, I hope you guys are understanding. You know, it's a very simple principle. You know, I oftentimes repeat myself to hope I'm not being too complicated. Essentially, AI is a new frontier. It's going to be in music somewhat. I know artists currently that are using it, not play work, Cardi. Cardi told me he never used it for a rather lie. But artists are using it in whatever facet
Starting point is 01:15:18 It's gonna be a part of Music in some way even if it's not the recording of music or the You listen of music but AI is a tool that you could tell like when I Google stuff these days AI tells me the answer That's the new Google right like I'm not even clicking links like when I when I hit Google right if I'm like yo When did Daniel X Start Spotify I'm not gonna click five links I'm gonna watch this AI tell me what it is I don't even go down here.
Starting point is 01:15:48 And I could go down here and go read articles, but the AI did it for me. So AI is, it's, you can't really get around it. And it's a thing that's going to affect music. Currently, the music companies are saying, stay the fuck away. This really smart guy, Jimmy Iveen, is saying, don't reject it, embrace it. But don't let TikTok create or ingratiate AI with music
Starting point is 01:16:16 that turns into the new Spotify because TikTok is investing into, remember the new owners of TikTok? 15% is something called, listen, the owners of TikTok, the owners of TikTok. MGX, which is a Saudi group,
Starting point is 01:16:37 their main thing is AI. So part of the people, when they divested, and now they have new owners of TikTok, they're investing in AI. So this guy who's really smart as saying, yo, music labels, why the fuck aren't, why are you rejecting AI? Invest in it. Otherwise, you're going to create another Spotify that's going to be worth more than all of you guys combined and tell you to suck their dick eventually.
Starting point is 01:17:02 And at a point, the music industry is going to flip because you're going to buy these labels, right? Look, MGX Abu Dhabi. it's a state-backed investment company focusing on accelerating and development and adoption of AI this is one of the new owners of TikTok so TikTok is investing in AI yes they're still licensing the music but if they do a flip and get another license for AI and music because that's what's going to be the new thing where you know you know TikTok or you know they do it reals they'd be like hey pick your sound maybe you don't have you don't have to be reals they'd be like hey pick your sound maybe you don't want to pick a Drake song, you want to pick an AI song.
Starting point is 01:17:44 The AI cooks up a song for you. That's how they eventually will bitch around the music labels again. So I think Jimmy Iveen is a really smart guy. Old school, but he's really smart. I see why he's made his billions. And this interview, if you guys want to watch, you can watch it on David Senora's page. It's an amazing interview.
Starting point is 01:18:05 If you're interested in the business, I hope you guys realized within the last week, I've given out so much game, even though sometimes you might be like act what you're talking about when you combine everything I've told you everything does make sense from me doing a breakdown of TikTok how they're now reshaping the algorithm descent third AI is now being a part of it they're looking forward to that
Starting point is 01:18:23 they're they're now you know UMG try to make a little play with them took their music off of TikTok for a bit because they want to show them who's boss TikTok is playing the bitch right now but TikTok ultimately wants to be you know a Spotify esk compartment and they're already a social media meta-esque compartment already. They're looking to take over the world. Who's that going to be kind of like helmed up by oracles in there? Larry Ellison, we keep seeing that name.
Starting point is 01:18:53 His son is basically trying to wrestle and learn that lesson. Russell Warner Brothers away from Netflix. It's a lot of moving parts, but it's all interconnected. All right, all right, chat. Let's keep it going. Let's keep it going. Let's keep it going. All right.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Well, I guess we're here. My man Jay Fold has now announced that he said the fall off back cover and some insight. He said 2626. That's when he's dropping it. Ironic date is 2626 in sequence, as you might say, even though it's February 6, 2020. Now, what we notice here is called disk 29 and disk 39, and we get to realize this is a double disc. Jay Cole will be dropping a double disc. It's executive produced by Jay Cole, Ibrahim, which I believe is his manager, T-Mine is a producer, and it says Dreamville, which I would imagine just is like the label and probably just like an amalgam of people who are probably within his camp that are executive producing it.
Starting point is 01:20:01 So he titles it, Dreamville. A bunch of tracks here. We don't get any features. 29 intro, 2-6 safety, run a train. Holy. Poor thing, legacy, bounce road blue. Who the fuck is you? Drums and bass, the let out, bombs in the bill.
Starting point is 01:20:20 I would imagine this is a very interesting song. Slash hit the bass or boss. Lonely at the top. That should be an interesting, introspective song, I think. What is Jay Cole talking about Lonely at the top, okay? Germaine Coleslaw. Listen, brother. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Lonely at what top? Okay. But okay, we'll hear him out. He has another intro. I'm not too sure why it's called 29 and 39 in terms of disc. So it's not disc one and disc two. It's disc 29 and disc 39. Here's an intro, inevitable.
Starting point is 01:20:53 The Villis old dog life sentence, only you, man up above. I love her again. What if? Quick stop and something something. And I can't even see this ocean boy or ocean way. Yeah. There was a letter accompanied with this. It says some of the first verses for the come up were written.
Starting point is 01:21:16 when I was just 19. The title of that project, the first one, that I would ever release, had a double meaning. That was the obvious one. My ambitions to come up in a rap game. The second was more subtle. My physical change of location to do so.
Starting point is 01:21:30 I was a delusional teenager from Fayetteville, North Carolina, who had decided to leave home and come up to New York City. On a dream chasing mission, when you listen to that project, you hear a college kid with a real sharp pen, telling the world he's going to make it and proudly put his unknown city on the map in the process. Towards the end of the come up, a couple skits tell a common story from me
Starting point is 01:21:50 at that age. Me driving back from home, back home from school on a holiday break, calling my mom to let her know a few hours, I was away, then call my homeboys, excited to let them know I'm back in town, asking where to party at. The fall off, a double album, made with the
Starting point is 01:22:06 intentions to be my last, brings the concept of my first project full circle. This 29 tells the story of me returning to my hometown at the age of 29, A decade after moving to New York, accomplishing what would it seemingly or seem to be impossible to most, I was at a crossroads with the three loves of my life, my woman, my craft, and my city.
Starting point is 01:22:24 This 39 gives an insight into my mindset during a similar trip home, this time a 39-year-old man, older and a little closer to peace. Without giving away too much more, here's the back cover of the falloff and all the pictures in this version of this album were shot by me, the front of the back cover of photographs I took when I was 15. The back cover includes the track list. It's a picture that I took on the walls of my bedroom at the time. Thank you to every artist and photographer that cleared these pictures.
Starting point is 01:22:50 I woke up every morning as a teenager, quite literally looking up to y'all. When this album releases, please know that you, in some deeper metaphysical type way, are in the music too. The Fall Off 2026. That was beautiful. That was absolutely beautiful. And while I have many criticisms of Jay Cole, I will say. say I you know number one him saying that this is a album to memorialize his path and journey throughout the industry and he plans or it was supposed to be his last we're not sure if it will
Starting point is 01:23:25 be pretty sure it won't this is a beautiful written there's a beautiful written um post and i understand it you know let me put my criticisms aside y'all know what my criticisms are I haven't been ashamed about saying them. My criticisms about Jay Cole is about him wanting and craving to be a competitor for the throne. It's not about him being a good artist. Never taking that from him. At times, I don't think he's the most interesting. I've had nicknames for him.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Napkin Cole. I've said he's made Audio NyQuil. Those things I'm not going to take back because Jay Cole isn't the most interested in all times but I've never doubted that he's one the most skillful I've said it myself in the last two years I believe he's rapping the best bar for bar between Kendrick Lamar himself and Drake I've also said that doesn't mean that he's a top rapper it takes more than that there's intangibles there's heart there's charisma there's a it factor that you can't necessarily say it's the reason why black
Starting point is 01:24:39 thought one of the best rappers in the game is usually not mentioned in the top five rappers overall. It just is what it is. Because I've seen people say, yo, well, how could you say he's rapping the best? What he's not the best? Don't be simple-minded. Eminem, one of the most elite rappers,
Starting point is 01:25:00 oftentimes he doesn't come up in the top one or top two conversations. There's an it factor. Andre 300, 3,000, even though he has a limited catalog when it comes to solo records, there's an it factor
Starting point is 01:25:17 and a potential that people seen that he was him. Notorious BIG, even though he passed away before he really matured. And it's such an amazing thing to see Cole. And I'm going to give him his props here. I'm glad that, you know, now I understand why it's this 29 and this 39. The most amazing thing with Jay Cole, and I believe Jay Cole does this way better than Kendrick does this. I'm going to say, I'm only going to compare J. Cole to Kendrick with this one particular thing because I do think that Drake was doing this for a while, but Drake abandoned it.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Jay Cole of any rapper has grown and tried to bring his audience with his growth through every facet of his life. The reason why Jay Cole has such a rabid fan base is that I remember when. Jay Cole was doing them college tours. 2011, 2012, I was in college myself. Jay Cole related to those people. Those people eventually left college. They had to get their first job. They had to leave the nest.
Starting point is 01:26:32 They have to leave their mama's house or their daddy's house. They had to go on their own. They had to go find love. They had to go find family. They had to go figure out what life had in store for them. That's usually your 20s. Going into your 30s. by the time a woman turns 30 and by the time a man turns 30 to their mid 30s,
Starting point is 01:26:55 life should be a little bit more crystallized. I always said this about myself personally. I said if I could go back and give myself advice at 19, I would tell myself, don't worry, things would be okay. At 19, I was terrified of being a fucking loser. I didn't know what was going to happen. I was scared of the unknown. And that's very normal for most men.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Men, we have a different societal expectations. Me, I was an immigrant. My mom had three boys. I'm the youngest. I got to go make some shit for myself. I didn't know what was going to happen. So that's your college years. And then you get out of college and then the idea of college.
Starting point is 01:27:41 I remember in 2008, remember 2009 or whatever. Rocket just won the president's United States. We had a black president. I'm at Rutgers University. I remember saying to myself, I never want to leave. I felt insulated at a college that was a fake world, but I felt that I was around people that was my age. And what was happening at that time, my life, money didn't matter. We're all, everybody's swiping and getting to the cafeterias. It doesn't matter who had a big car. Who cares? we're all on the same campus trying to make it happen. Common goal, keeping your head down, doing your thing.
Starting point is 01:28:25 As time goes on, you're about to graduate, and if anybody's been through college, you start getting a little bit nervous. Did I waste my time here? I missed a couple of, I failed a couple of finals, failed a couple of classes. I missed a couple of important classes because I was hung over from that last frat party.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Damn, I try to link with this girl, blah, blah, blah, blah. I got in trouble over here. It's a whole lot. I became a man. I love college. I always told you guys I spent $100,000, in Painful Loans, I never use my degree. I have a biomathematics degree and also my sociology degree.
Starting point is 01:28:54 I never used it. But it was worth it because I became a man. This is where Jay Cole is at his best. Jay Cole was always the regular man, the relatable guy. Drake is too. But not necessarily. Drake more so when it comes to relationship or intergender related. Like Drake was the soundtrack for me of you kind of become a more confident
Starting point is 01:29:18 and then like dealing with women and going through the phases of heartbreak, let down, love, lust, and all these other things. Drake's music was really good for that. J. Cole music was a little bit broader. It touched on some of those things at first, right? But, you know, like, there's some certain things about, like, the first time he did, whatever. Like, I remember that song he did. But it was about a young man or a young woman going through that college phase.
Starting point is 01:29:44 Most people that went to colleges at that time, gravitated to J-Col. You guys might not know this, but early on when Jay-Cole went on his first run, it was called a dollar in a dream. He did something really unique. And I always tell you, you've got to be a disruptor. Jay-Cole went college to college. He wanted to make sure colleges was his home.
Starting point is 01:30:06 He charged a dollar for the performance. If you're a college student, he didn't want to charge you $20, $20. He didn't want to charge you $30, $30,000, even though he had a name. He said, bring a dollar. those fans that went to that tour not only listened to great music, they saw themselves in him, they saw themselves living parallel lives, they were indebted and also invested into a story for life. So despite anything I might say, because I do have these criticisms, but my criticism isn't what I'm talking about now. And when I hear an album being presented, and again, I'm just being fair, when I hear an album being presented this 29 and 39, it reminds me that Jay Cole, More than Kendrick and more than Drake has always been the artist that from when he went on that college run and did the dollar in a dream tour,
Starting point is 01:30:58 he consistently was growing with his audience. When they started leaving college and had to experience different hardships or whatever, he rapped about that as well. when they went through this or that, he wrapped about every single portion of their experience. The idea of turning 30, uncertainty, wanting to make it, self-doubt. And even though I'm not at the age of 39 yet, how I felt at 19, I just said, I wish I could go back and tell myself at 19,
Starting point is 01:31:43 I used to stay up really worrying like, is this going to work? Am I waste of my time? I was investing tons of hours into making content and still going to school and I didn't really want to pick a path but my passion was music
Starting point is 01:31:55 but I didn't know if it was going to work. I wish I could go back and tell myself just calm down. Go to sleep tonight. Don't sit up and read a million things and try to study in like, you know, this idea of I remember Kanye talking about the 10,000 hours
Starting point is 01:32:10 and I say fuck 10,000, I'm doing 100,000. I wish I could go back and tell myself at 19, it's going to be good. But me at 19 is very different for me at 29. Me at 29, I remember personally, I'm thinking, all right, cool.
Starting point is 01:32:32 I was always, like, thinking I want to compete. You know, when I got on everyday struggle, I wanted to be one of, like, I understood that I already had, I was doing, like, the war in Shirek, like, 24. You get what I'm saying? It was going into, 29, I remember saying, I feel I'm ahead of the game for most media personalities, and I need to
Starting point is 01:32:58 crush it. It wasn't necessarily about financial security at the time. It was about chasing greatness. And I wanted to know when it's all said and done, will they mention my name? That's it. Because I sit here and I give credit all the time to whether it's Star, from Star and Buckwell, whether it's Wendy Williams, of course, you know, shot to Ed Lover, Sway, Big Boy, who else who else who else i'll even say miss jones um but of course i said charlemagne too of course um
Starting point is 01:33:29 but i wanted that and i remember thinking where charlemagne got hired at the breakfast club his run started there solo when he really became like super sane five charlemagne was like thirty something like three or whatever and i was like i'm a few years earlier i need to do it now So I completely understand what Jay Colvin said. Your mindset is 19 for me. It's very different from a mindset at 30, no, no, at 29. And, you know, I haven't gotten to that point of 39 yet, but I could tell my mindset is definitely changing from it was at 29. At 29, the idea of family was probably like, you know, without getting to many details, I gave up those opportunities and was vehemently against it.
Starting point is 01:34:22 in trying to put my goal as the only thing in front of me because I was so desperate to get it. Today, I'm in a different mindset, and part of how I think now is legacy, and that also comes a family. There is a mindset change here, people. There is a maturation, and I like J. Cole for that. So I know some people might think, oh, I can just, I'm not here. You see, you know, Sherman always told me this one thing. I'm not here to do with shock jock shit. I'm not trying to be the guy who just hates on Cole. No, I'm not. Like, I'm telling you exactly, I'm going to give him his props.
Starting point is 01:34:57 My only thing is I have an aversion to him talking shit, saying he's the best. That comes with backing it up. But his particular story is one that is really dope. And it's a one-on-one. And it's one that I've seen I was there. Maybe I wasn't the biggest fan. But I watched him build it brick by brick. I watched him grow with this audience.
Starting point is 01:35:20 And J-Cole has one of the most. loyal fan base of all time. He's never abandoned them. He's grew with them. I love that. So as this album, as he describes, is supposed to, you know, this 29 and 39 is supposed to show
Starting point is 01:35:36 these probably different mindsets. As he says, 29 is going to tell him a story of, you know, and by the way, those things match me too. At 29, I was at a crossroad. Same thing. What are you going to do? You want to settle down, get a family?
Starting point is 01:36:00 Might not be able to travel that much. The content might not be as important as you would want it in trying to get to another level. Do you want to, you know, choose your craft over everything? You want to choose peace. And we all as men make that decision. I think 29 is an amazing time. And I think I think Jay Cole is picked. Again, just imagine.
Starting point is 01:36:27 up to your time of your life and i think 39 is also a different mindset as well so with that being said i'm excited i'm excited so tomorrow we are going to check this out now i you know i'm not backing off of things i've said but i don't want to be a hater right i'm not trying to do shock jock shit to to be like okay i'm just i'm coined me the j cole hater no i'm gonna stick with it coal you know and i'm pretty sure you'll have one or two songs where he's still kind of throwing little shots at Drake or maybe Stone Shot said Kung Fu Kenny. I don't know him and Drake's relationship honestly right now. Never
Starting point is 01:37:08 really asked Drake nor did I really care to. Um, you know, I don't know how Drake felt about certain things, but like I don't really know. I'm really the intimate details are the minute things about what and what.
Starting point is 01:37:24 But I'm pretty sure Cole's going to pop a little bit of shit. I'm not going to be a fan of that honestly. So I'll tell you a red. when he gets to the part where he's like, yeah, I'm the best and I'll rip all these niggas heads off and these niggas wouldn't want to battle me because I'm the best and I'm the best MC.
Starting point is 01:37:40 I'm going to say, pack it up. But if this album makes me feel that I'm going on a journey of a man who's lived it, witnessed it, grew with his fans and his family, and it's here to tell the story, I might like it. I might like it. I might like it.
Starting point is 01:38:09 I can't, I don't want to sit here and I'm glad he actually wrote this because it gave me when I was thinking the fall off I was like Remember I was into the mixtape and I was like Man I'm about to go to sleep
Starting point is 01:38:24 I feel like when he raps about Oh I'm still the best I still my pen is so good I feel it's empty It's like empty threats It's like a dog that's like Rough rough rough rough You open a case
Starting point is 01:38:36 And it was barking at like another dog And all of a sudden it's like It just walks away Like ah you ain't on shit But knowing that he's intended to tell us a story, a 20-year story, a delusional teenager from Fayetteville, North Carolina, who moved to New York City, accomplished his dreams when the college
Starting point is 01:38:58 made all the decisions, multiple forks in the road, had to pick and choose, pick up, and put down all type of things. Did it his way, didn't compromise to a certain extent, and is still regarded as one of the best rappers in hip-hop. I want to listen to that story. So I want to say the preamble, the lead-up is correct to it. All right? J-Cole, I'll be tuned in.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Now, I'm going to keep saying, man. I don't want to hear all that extra shit. Can't lie to you. I can't lie to you. Can't lie to you. Hold on. Got you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:15 All right. You know, I was having a conversation. I hate when I have a good conversation. I'm like, yo, shit, this would have been a banger stream, right? This would have been a good stream. We're kind of like talking about someone brought up there like, yo, man, you know, Jay Cole's always been a good rapper. Like, you know, maybe comes back around and he just starts, you know, he just starts laying
Starting point is 01:40:39 it off. He just started letting go on all of these guys. I was just like, yeah, I don't want to hit that part of him. I'm good. I think I'm straight off of that. Like, you know, you got to imagine. So I started giving them some history, which I, which maybe they're just not in tune like that.
Starting point is 01:40:52 The people who I like play Fortnite with or whatever, they're not. not like, you know, fucking hip-hop heads. But they were like, yo, so I say, you know, let me explain somebody disgust with Jay Cole and, you know, the move of him dropping a dish song and apologizing. Let me just mark this out for you. First and foremost,
Starting point is 01:41:10 Jay Cole's just a beta just off GP. I'm going to tell you why. Jay Cole, as his story goes, he just loves Kendrick Lamar. He loves Kendrick more than himself. It's like a delusional side chick, damn there. As his story goes, supposedly Jay Cole back in the day, gets slapped by Diddy, over Diddy, trying to talk shit to Kendrick,
Starting point is 01:41:33 because Kendrick dropped control and said, I'm the king of New York. Diddy didn't like that. Start calling it, calling out. They're in some venues. All you, y'all, y'all little new niggas, y'all be talking shit by New York. Diddy's drunk. Cole tried to run interference for Kendrick. Diddy slaps Earth, wind, and fire out of Jay Cole.
Starting point is 01:41:54 They start to rumble Some people say Jay Cole won Some people said that Diddy gave him the beats Who cares? But the mere fact remains You love that nigga so much That Diddy start talking shit about him And you took the slap
Starting point is 01:42:08 That's crazy That's crazy That's crazy Even with that You and Drake Are putting out a song It's supposed to be the three-headed monster Yeah leave a space for Kendrick
Starting point is 01:42:22 You're even on the song Bigging up Kenrick. Kendrick. Is it K.A. Arbery or me? Now, even though later on you did say, well, right now, I am feeling like Mohammed Ali. But you, you, you, you bigged up. And you mentioned Kendrick on a song he didn't even end up being on. Apparently, Kendrick declined.
Starting point is 01:42:41 I'm good. As rumors go, maybe because he didn't like Drake. I want to be on that song with that fuck, nigga. You thought it was cool? I'm good. You drop the song. You don't even change the lyrics. You're bigging up a guy.
Starting point is 01:42:53 He's not even on the song. How much do you love this guy? He's not even on the song at this point. You could have kept the lines like, well, right now, me and Drake, we like the Spider-Man meme. That sounds dope. It just should be you and Drake. You're still leaving the lines where you're like, what about Kendrick? Dick Rodden.
Starting point is 01:43:09 You love you some Kendrick. You got slapped over him. Now you're over here rapping about him. He's not even on the song. We're the big three like we started a league. Okay. Then, Kendrick responds, would have vehement scathing this. Keep in mind.
Starting point is 01:43:30 keep in mind on the song first person shooter Drake never says big three Drake is not talking about we're a big three there's no big three for Drake I told you top five rappers Aubrey Drake Drake Drake Drake Jimmy with the wheelchair is just Drake but I digress so you say we the big three like we started a league
Starting point is 01:44:00 and Kendrick drops the song seemingly respond and saying fuck the big three is just big me you've taken a slap for this man you've got your ass beat for this man you've pretty much
Starting point is 01:44:17 like in an audio version slurped him off by just include him on a song that he declined to be on which probably shows lack of respect and then he comes out with a record and says well fuck the big three it's only big three
Starting point is 01:44:33 me, which basically says fuck both of you niggas, man. The internet hype you up because you were touting this idea that, yo, nobody wants to fuck with me. I'm the real guy. If I ever, if I ever go at you, I'm going to be like, oh, you're on your caller ID. You create a record.
Starting point is 01:44:53 It's a mixtape. Because you love Kendrick so much, you couldn't even stand on it. You couldn't even positively title it. You called it I just might delete later. Everybody knows when you got that one side chick who thinks she in love with you and the whole time you're looking at her like bitch you're my side you have a whole girl on i have a whole girl at
Starting point is 01:45:10 home i'm not leaving her she's writing dumb shit to you just like spilling emotions that you're looking like is this girl good like yo she's a little bit co-c-coo and essentially she'll write shit like you know what i just want to say this to you i might delete this later but i just got to let you know i've always loved you and i loved you more than this girl and i wish you would just give me the chance and i you know like i've been here for like 15 years and nobody loves you more than me and i'm shut the fuck up he talked about you talk The titles of mixed tape might delete later. Like a side bitch.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Drop the thing. After he drops the goddamn thing. After he drops the thing, out of fear that the guy he got slapped for, the guy who was audio slurping up on first-person shooter, the guy who literally, we might as well call him, call Kendrick J-Col's Daddy. He retracts his diss song. We've never seen this before in hip-hop history. retracts it.
Starting point is 01:46:31 He deletes it. Literally, delete. There is a deletion protocol that if there is unauthorized upload of this song, that person will get punitive actions. He doesn't even want fans to have it. He's disgusted by his own song. To add insult to injury, he has his festival going on.
Starting point is 01:46:59 He takes to the stage. and not only shouts out the guy who just told him, fuck y'all, fuck the big three, he gives a three-minute audio verbal apology in front of 30,000 people. I don't want to hear this guy talk about him getting in a audio rap
Starting point is 01:47:28 potential battle conflict. That's not his body. We want to hear about how you grew as a man Things you've learned about life and love And yes If you're gonna tell the story about why you apologize to Kendrick Just explain to us what you've seen on your birth certificate That made you now realize that Kendrick is your daddy
Starting point is 01:47:49 Sorry Give me one second I do gotta grab my dogs So let's get me a little bit No no wait what Why J Cole No it's not Drake It's Kendrick
Starting point is 01:48:25 Give me one second I do got a grandma dog is okay. I only want to play this, man. Okay. Kendrakevara and Jay Cole have been... Give me one second. Okay, chat. So Cole is really letting Kendrick know that if he wants to make this thing real,
Starting point is 01:48:49 if he wants to take it there, that he's ready for war. The last line where he states that he's going to make sure that nobody misses him appears to be a direct response to Kendrick's verse when he said this. for you all but I'm trying to murder you niggas trying to make sure your court fans never heard of you niggas they don't want to hear not one more now no verb from you niggas so j cole is saying i can make you disappear it's critical to note that when the control verse dropped cole felt obligated to reach out to kendrick directly to try to make sense of what it was all about i had to have a conversation with him so i just had to find out for myself like yo what you came at me dog what's that and kendrick did explain on many occasions
Starting point is 01:49:31 that his relationship with Jay Cole did not change as a result of that verse. Specifically where are you at like with the Jay Cole? Specifically where are you at with a Drake or so on and so forth? I respect the music. For sure. I respect them as individuals and creators. And Kendrick seemingly wasn't lying as some months after the control verse, P. Diddy allegedly tried to pour a drink on Kendrick at a party.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Diddy was in a drunken state and was pissed off about Kendrick's King of New York line. and Jay Cole defended him. It was Cole's intervention that led to the infamous scuffle between himself and Diddy. I mean anyone out here getting in a fight with Jay Cole of all people, you're clearly just a massive piece of shit. Let's just call for what it is. At first even led to the fight with Puff and Co. Jay Cole would mention the fight years later on a track called Let Go of My Hand.
Starting point is 01:50:26 My last scrap was with Puff Daddy, who would have thought it? As far as award shows for the year, Kendrick cleaned up with BET, winning Lyruses of the Year, MVP of the Year, and album of the year, all over Jay Cole. Kendrick also clinched the number one spot for MTV's hottest MCC, and Jay Cole didn't even make the list. With MTV, man, because you did not make the freshman list, not the freshman list, but the hottest MCL is. Inexcusable, man. It is inexcusable, man. I'm like, this dude's got a gold album. Like, what do you have a platinum single gold album, Grammy nominated, you know. You gotta kind of be like, come on, son, like word.
Starting point is 01:51:03 Yeah, it was. It just let me know what that whole thing was. And I normally take these lists with a huge grain of salt. But I do think it's important to highlight just how many times Kendrick has won over Jay Cole because I feel like that feeds into the chip that's on Jay Cole's shoulder in recent years. To further confirm that the two were still on good terms, they celebrated Cole's birthday in New York together. and some months later, Jay Cole brought Kendrick on stage while he was on tour in L.A.
Starting point is 01:51:38 However, it was in that same year that Jay Cole would release what many people would consider to be his classic album, and on that project, he had a few little jabs for Kendrick. So it's kind of similar to Kendrick's control verse, where Cole is paying homage to a bunch of legends, and he's putting himself in the mix. Oh, you might be Trissy Drake or Kjerk Lamar. Check the birth date, nigger. Oh, man, I don't hear this. Anyway, that was my thing.
Starting point is 01:52:12 So, you know what ended up happening? So pretty much, oh, the conversation we're having, Jay Cole might delete later. Okay? Um, what was the song? It's called a seven-minute drill. If we are to go over this particular, if we are to go over this particular disc song.
Starting point is 01:52:57 And I see some people, they were saying, honestly, man, Jay Cole, his diss song wasn't that bad. Wasn't that bad. If we really think about, like, you know, what he said, you know, Jay Cole is still one of the best. I've said he's, like, rapping the best. And, you know, I've said, said to people, I said, respectfully, respectfully, this disowns garbage.
Starting point is 01:53:25 Straight up. And not because it was bad, you know, phonetically or with rhyme schemes or whatever the case is like, not only does J-Cold don't got a conviction to battle. Like, let me go over some of these lines. Let me go over some of these lines. Okay. Here we go. Now I'm at the front of the line with a comfortable lead.
Starting point is 01:54:05 How ironic, soon as I got it, now you want something with me. Well, he caught me at the perfect time. Jump up and see, boy, I got here off bars, not no controversy. Funny thing about it, bitch, I don't even want the prestige. Fuck the Grammys because them crackers ain't done nothing for me. Slugs took my niggins, soul drugs took the other one. Rap beef ain't real than the shit I've seen in Cumberland. He averaging one hard verse every 30 months or something.
Starting point is 01:54:29 If he wasn't dissing, then we wouldn't be discussing him. Lord, don't make me have to smoke this nigga because I fuck with him, but push come to shove on this mic, I will humble him. I'm Nino with this thing. This is that new Jack City meme. Yeah, I'm aiming at G money crying tears before I busted him. Pause. He then says, I got mixed feelings about these fucking rap niggas.
Starting point is 01:54:49 It's over for that cap. We cap pillars. Two-six. We don't at niggas. We get at niggas. Shoot a nigga lights out. Yeah, my dog stat fillers. Stats stuffers.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Triple double. Get your ass. Black duff. body bag body bag body bag cold world your instructor for pilates class get a niggins stretched if i feel disrespect uh your arms might be too shot short to be boxed to box with a god who live his life with the pressures of a constant facade i pray for peace but if a nigger sees these positive vibes a falcon nine inside my pocket bitch this rocket going to fly now it's popping outside the top of july my text flooded with the hunger for a toxic reply i'm hesitant i love my brother but i ain't going to lie i powered up for real
Starting point is 01:55:28 the shit will feel like swatting a fly four albums in 12 years nigger i could divide the shit if this what you want i'm indulgent in violence put pictures in my home ain't aim the chrome at your isle is fly pebbles at your dome we the stone temple pilots this is a mere warning shot to back down niggis back in a town where we whip and work trafficking pounds come on bro let's get out get this out of here now somebody told me this like you know this is kind of dope let me tell you the reason why this shit wouldn't be up to par i hate to get back into the battle but i want to i want to i want to make very clear. None of this shit would hit right. For me,
Starting point is 01:56:14 I think Kendrick executed really great battle plans on strategically and how we, and timing. But the best ability that Kendrick had during the battle
Starting point is 01:56:32 and this is why I say what J. Cole is talking about, nigga, bring that bullshit to URL. The best ability that Kendrick had during the battle y'all going to hate me for it but it was lying straight up making lies sound believable setting narratives
Starting point is 01:56:53 and crossing the line you see jay cold is too clean to cross the line jay cold if you're going to dis it out and this for anybody who would ever discus kenric lamar unless you're going to tell us his woman's a man kenjure got AIDS unless you're going to say kentra got fucked in the ass that you got come out with some bars like yo kenj you got fucked by top dog
Starting point is 01:57:16 He had, nigga, you know he was the top of dog. Like, you got to do some shit. You got to come out with lies. Straight up. Straight up. That's how he wanted. And I think that's why he had an advantage over Drake, too. Drake couldn't lie as well as Kendrick.
Starting point is 01:57:31 That's a fact. Drake came up with a weak-ass lie. He was like, yo, I got one. I got one. Guess what? He beat his bitch. Nigger, half the people listen was like, so what?
Starting point is 01:57:43 We all beat our bitch. That's what half the hip-hop audience was saying. You know what Kendrick said? Certified lover boy certified PDF. Oh my God. Oh hell no, we can't get jigger with that shit. That's fact. Kendrick lies
Starting point is 01:57:57 We're the best. We got to keep it a bean. J. Cole coming with this rap-ty-wrap shit. They don't anybody care about that shit, bro? Niggins. Niggins. Tell us this nigga. Tell us these fucking his sister. Incest.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Tell us his wife got a dick. That works. Lied at you fucked his wife. That's the only thing that works. I ain't going to lie. If you be even with Kendrick, you got to come out day one. I know you caught that HIV. Straight up.
Starting point is 01:58:23 You got a lot. I think Drake thought there was going to be some type of barometer. Okay. All right. I mentioned this. You mentioned that. One thing I could give, but I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
Starting point is 01:58:41 I give Kendrick a little bit credit for. He was a habitual line stepper. Drake thought he had one when he said See that's what I'm saying like all this shit right here What do you think the thing that's gonna end Kendrick Lamar is like Yo that was back in a day Like And by the way remember he's quote to what Jay Z said to Nas
Starting point is 01:59:01 Four hours and ten years I could divide that's one let's say every two No that's one let's say two Nigger some of them shit was due One was on the other was illmatic The rest is a bunch of fucking garbage That's what we had Jay Z. Saint-Anas.
Starting point is 01:59:22 Our battles were won, people. Man, that shit sounded cool. Yeah, we quoted later. But that ether hits your soul. That ether hits your soul. I showed you the first tech on tour with Large Professor. Now I hit the album with the tech on the dresser.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Why she? No, Jay. No. Oh. What the fuck is that ether? Oh. No, no. You 36 in a karate class
Starting point is 01:59:55 I'm pretty sure it wasn't a karate class Fuck it lie My bad I definitely just quoted Jay when I meant to quote on Nas Nas would say no type of shit Let's pull up ether I'm getting to realize the best liar wins
Starting point is 02:00:11 Like if you're gonna be for Jay Z now You gotta point out the fact that he was kicking him with Harvey Weinstein You gotta point out he might have an Elizabeth legitimate son Fuck the facts just say it Nigger go claim the other kid nigga that big nose nigga who keeps suing
Starting point is 02:00:28 you, nigga. Like, if you dissent Kendrick, you gotta just make up a lie, nigga. Drake tried to make up the lie, but the lies they ain't worked. The best lie he had was, I think them kids might be day free. That was the best lie, but it ain't hit like that.
Starting point is 02:00:45 Kendrick came with the one hit a quitter lie. That battle was all about who lied the best. You're a pedophile, nigga. Oh, shit, what? Wait, hold on. Now, fuck that. Who cares if his kids is his? they all love each other.
Starting point is 02:01:04 Are you a PDF? Like, that was crazy. If I was like, I wish, well, I did talk to Drake a lot during that, the whole thing, but I wish I would tell him lay the morals down, this is what you need to say this fuck, nigga. Just make it up. Say he has AIDS like EZE. Did EZE have A's?
Starting point is 02:01:22 We don't know, but just say it. It's a right battle. Who gives a fuck? This is why I say J-Cole can't bail nobody. He over here thinking, J-Cold thinking that niggas is winning with words. What? Who? Nah, fuck all that.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Look. Nah, nah, nah, this is crazy. with it. Here we go. Here we go. That this Gasey and Cacafella records wanted beef. Started cocking up my weapon, started loading this ammo to explode it on a camel and the soldiers I can handle this for Dolo. When KRS made an album called Blueprint first big is your man and you got the nerve to say you better than big you dick sucking lips. Why don't you let the late great veteran live? So you need, oh this, oh he killed him on this one.
Starting point is 02:02:11 You niggas deal with emotions like bitches. What's sad is I love you. Okay, okay. I want to see the lies. Oh, the narrative is what he beat him with. You seem to only be concerned with distant women. Were you abused as a child? You scared of smile? They called you ugly?
Starting point is 02:02:25 Put it like this. Niggas was like, yeah, now, Drake wilded out when he mentioned Whitney's name. Yo, you know, Kendrick said, fuck it. Dear Drake, you have a daughter. We never found a daughter. Fuck it. The best lie works. I ain't a lie.
Starting point is 02:02:37 Niggas are still looking for the daughter. Dear Drake, you have a daughter. Then people are like, Yo, now, Drake went too far when he says, when he says, I think them kids might be day free. Yo, Kendrick came back around and won up that too. Dear Adonis, your father should die. He's a predator.
Starting point is 02:02:55 Like, what? Yo, Kendrick? Yeah, if you're going to be with Kendrick, bro, you got to find out he got AIDS. His mama got a train ran on her. You got to say some diabolical shit, bro. Like, yo, Kendrick won up every lie or possible mistruth. or allegations that Drake said and said some 20 times worse shit.
Starting point is 02:03:22 Yo, really think about this. Push-ups. Drake lyrics. In one of the lyrics, he basically says, he says something to Whitney, right? Which is Drake's class, you know, he kind of mentioned the name, right? Whitney. He says, I'll be with some body guards like Whitney.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Top say drop. Your midget ass better fucking drop and give me 50, right? So he kind of mentions Whitney, right? Look at this shit right here. Dear Adonis, your father's a predator, he should die. Like, yo, bro, the response to Drake mentioning his woman is, look, dear Drake's mama, your son got a habit. Da-da-da-da. Dear Dennis, he's a master manipulator.
Starting point is 02:04:12 Look. Look. Look. Dear Adonis, I'm sorry that man, I ain't going to lie to you. This thing is, this thing is Kendrick disrespectful. I believe if the edge in the battle goes to disrespect on Kendrick Lamar. And that's what I'm saying. Nobody should be for Kendrick Lamar unless you got good details that they ran a train on his girl and you got the video.
Starting point is 02:04:38 Yo, we got the video of the train of niggas ran on Whitney. That's when you be for Kenjikwilar. That nigga, he, I'm telling you, he's a line stepper. Like, yo, you think about what's said in this. We're going to read some lyrics. In the first song that Drake dropped, right? Remember, I know people want to say, nah, it's about lyricism. All right, nigger.
Starting point is 02:04:59 In the first song, Drake dropped in starting, you know, in response to, I'm like that, is push-ups. One of the big disses, which is like on the level of meek type, this is like, is your world tour, girl tour. He says, how to fuck you big stepping with a size seven men's on. Hey, you get it? You got a small feat. That's the this. Fuck all that. Listen to this, nigger, Kendrick Lamar.
Starting point is 02:05:24 When he's dissing back, listen to this. Listen to this Your son's a sick man with sick thoughts I think niggins like him should die Oh my God Yo, with a nigga like this You gotta say the work I ain't gonna lie to you
Starting point is 02:05:36 With a nigga like this Only a drill rapper could beat him You gotta almost find his dead parents And go sit by their grave rapin the shit I'm telling you the niggas too disrespectful bro That's the problem Kendrick never outwrapped Drake He out disrespected Drake
Starting point is 02:05:51 That's a fact And his lives were more convincing Hey, your kids ain't yours They're like Oh man He's the pedophile Oh shit Might be
Starting point is 02:06:02 I ain't gonna lie to you He out lied him Bro, think about it Think about it Drake says You're wearing a size seven men's shoes He says your son's a sick man With sick thoughts
Starting point is 02:06:16 I think niggins like him should die Him and Weinstein should get fucked up in a cell For the rest of their life He hates black women Hypers Yo this nigga is an amazing Yo, this is not the guy you want to bat.
Starting point is 02:06:27 Yo, only a drill rapper could get at Kendrick. Real talk. He got sex offenders on HOVO. He keep on a monthly allowance. A child should never be compromised. And he'd keeping his child around him. Oh, my God. Which, this was the crazy thing when, like, Dave Freeman was mad.
Starting point is 02:06:48 I'm like, you know, Kendrick said Drake kids are around sex offenders, right? Like, you realize, like, that's like a more disrespectful thing, right? Fuck or, listen, look at this. And we got to raise her daughters knowing there's predators like him lurking. Fuck a rat badly. He should die so all these women can live with a purpose. What? Yo.
Starting point is 02:07:14 This is, yo, all, yo, let me tell you. If Kendrick was battling Julio Fulio, Julio wins. Facts. You need a disrespectful nigga like that.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Word too. Like, this is all when I see Kendrick, like, yo, I rhyme with the words, the words with the curves. I'm the guy with the,
Starting point is 02:07:28 I'm the guy with the, like, listen, think about the palace. I'm here with the talents. Fuck all of that. We don't care about how you can rhyme word. It's time to disrespect. It's time to disrespect.
Starting point is 02:07:39 That's why you got to fuck my ab soul, nigga. You got to say any lie. Fuck it. Any lie. Kendrick won that. That's what I'm saying. Like, yo, I hope this nigga, Jay Cole don't think he getting a second bite at the Apple pause in terms of trying to diss back.
Starting point is 02:07:57 Brough, unless you got some major league lies, leave Kendrick alone. Come about how disrespectful Kendrick was. I've been in this industry 12 years. I'm going to tell you one little secret. There's weird shit going on And some of these artists Be here to police And they streamline their victims
Starting point is 02:08:21 All inside their home Call him Tender They leak videos of themselves To push their agendas To any woman that be playing his music Just know that you're playing your sister Or better You're selling your knees
Starting point is 02:08:30 To the weirdos, not the good ones Cat Williams said gets your truth So I'm gonna get mines The embassy about to get raided to It's only a matter of time Hey LeBron LeBron ain't too Yo LeBron believe this bullshit so much
Starting point is 02:08:40 He had talked to Drake since That's some convincing lies LeBron hasn't talked to Drake since Brof If you can't lie like Kendrick Lamar Leave that little nigga alone bro Any nigga want to rap battle with them Come to me
Starting point is 02:09:02 I got to me and you cook up some lies And if y'all have any standards Get out of here If you're not down to this is dead mama Does he got a brother that died You got this some dead people of his I ain't gonna hold you real talk Like
Starting point is 02:09:18 Like if he had a Charles Barkley Jr., You got to get at Charles Walker, Judean. I'm sorry. That's what, bro. Kendrick is disrespectful. Nick of the shit he said about Drake when we really think about it. If we're talking about stepping over lines, be like, yo, he's like, yo, he basically alludes to Whitney getting beat up. And then he says, one of your kids might not be yours.
Starting point is 02:09:44 Yo, I think this pedophile should die. Nobody should put their kids around him. I think he's a fucking creep. And I think he should be in jail with Harvey Weinstein getting fucked up every single day. This is a nasty, pretty. the worst. Yo, come on, bro. Come on. This nigga, Kendrick really went there, bro. I'm telling you, he did not, it's not about rapping, my nigga. That nigga,
Starting point is 02:10:04 the nigga started out, verse one, Dear Adonis. Oh, my God. I look at him and wish your grandpa had wore a condo. You, stop it, bro. I'm done. Yo, what? Yo, chat, am I wrong on this? This nigga Kendrick really won't on disrespect. I'm not, yo. like whether you're a Drake fan or a Kendrick fan
Starting point is 02:10:26 if you listen to all the tracks I don't think people could be like one outwrapped the other head and shoulders like it wasn't even close I do love euphoria I think it's a well put together song but family matters a well put together song and also pretty dope lyrically lyrically they're competing disrespect they're not competing Kendrick took the disrespect in a yo he says I wish your grandpa wore a condom I'm sorry you had to grow up and then stand behind him. Life is hard.
Starting point is 02:10:53 The challenge is always going to beat us home. Sometimes our parents' mistakes that affect us until we've grown. You're a good kid and need leadership. Let me mentor you since your daddy don't teach you shit. Never let a man piss on your legs, son. Either you die right there or pop that man in the head, son. Never fall in the escort business. That's bad.
Starting point is 02:11:08 Oh, my God. Don't pay to play with them Brazilians. Get a gym membership. Oh, my God, bro. Don't cut corners like your daddy did. Fuck with a Zemping. Oh, my. Now, I ain't going to lie to you, bro.
Starting point is 02:11:21 This is disrespectful. This is a really disrespectful song. So this is why I'm warning J. Cole. You're too nice. Nobody cares with these little, oh, I'm rapping better than you. Nobody cares about that. Don't be for Kendrick Lamar. If you're not dissing his dead homies.
Starting point is 02:11:43 If you're not dissing his dead grandpa. You're not dissing his dead. Like, you got this somebody dead. Straight up. Like, I'll cover your music straight up. He's down to call you a PDF. He's down to say whatever about you. you gotta have some ammo
Starting point is 02:11:56 say he got AIDS straight up yo that nigga got AIDS he on that easy E shit I'm not saying I don't know if easy I got a age
Starting point is 02:12:04 but you know they got rumors just you gotta just say it gangsters this ain't got AIDS man yo this is why you got fucked an ass by your boss
Starting point is 02:12:14 some shit night shit say whatever nigga I'm lying like it's going out of style yo Kenjik Kendrick probably told two truths in the whole battle
Starting point is 02:12:22 bro anything was lost and I'm not saying he wrong for it because historically the lies always hit Now some people say this really happened But best lies man
Starting point is 02:12:34 That's why I fuck your bitch you fat motherfucker That's why I fucked your bitch That's why Nika I don't know if it's true or not But that shit What lies he put up in this one Oh this is the line Poushisi played off of
Starting point is 02:13:05 His daddy a killer He wanted to be junior They must have forgot the shit that he'd done Pushisi switched up to his daddy a killer But you went you just like Brani James Holy shit shut. I said, holy shit.
Starting point is 02:13:20 Yeah, Colin Arby, you know I'm a selfish thing The crown is heavy. I pray for them They're my real friends. If not, I'm W. Milly. I don't like you popping that shit
Starting point is 02:13:26 of Farrell and hurt the beef. Fuck all that pushing P. I see, let me see you push a T. Better yet spinning on him before you think pushing me. Holy shit.
Starting point is 02:13:36 I hate the way you talk, the way you walk. I hate the way you dress. I hate the way you sneak this. If I catch flight, it's going to be direct. We hate the bitches you fuck. They confuse himself
Starting point is 02:13:45 with real woman. And notice, I said, We ain't just me. What a culture feeling. Yeah, I ain't going to lie, man. Yeah, he ain't start with the lies on this one. Too crazy. He started with narratives.
Starting point is 02:14:01 Let me see 616. 616 was a nice song. Let me see what he was saying on this bullshit. Oh yeah, he was talking some NLEA chakra shit. Yeah, somebody's line. I can see the vibes on act. Even he looking compromised. Let's peel the layers back.
Starting point is 02:14:20 Ain't no brownie points with beating your chest harassing. And fucking with good people make people go to bat. Conspiracies about cash dog. That's not even the leak. Find jewels like cashdoll. I need you to think. And are you ready to have you ever? Are you finally ready to play have you ever?
Starting point is 02:14:35 Let's see. Have you ever thought that OVO is working for me? Fake bully. I hate bullies. You might be a terrible person. Everyone inside your team is whispering that you deserve it. Can't tussie slap. Okay, this one, he ain't lying that much on this one.
Starting point is 02:14:47 The lie started with not like us and meet the grams. Anyway. And I'm a hip-hop niggins. I'm not here saying that, oh, no, Kendrick should have told the truth. I'm going to be honest, Drake should have lied better. You should have said that nigga had AIDS. You should have said he fucked his mama. You should have said his dad touched him, put two fingers up his booty hole.
Starting point is 02:15:10 Like, you should have said his wife a man. You should have said top dog fucked him. He should have this mad lies to make up. Hell yeah, nigga. You got to realize, this is how you know Kendrick lies were good. Drake was explaining it. I never, like on the hard part saying, Like, Kendrick Lye was so good
Starting point is 02:15:31 that Drake had to make a diss song Like, explain the lie He says, where he says it? Speaking of anything with the child, let's get to that now. This Epstein angle was the shit I expected. TikTok fit is you collected and dissected Instead of being on some disdirection. You rather grabs your fucking pen and misdirection.
Starting point is 02:15:56 My mom came over today and I was like, Mother I, Mother I, Mother I, wait a second, that's one record where you say you got molested. Yo, yo, you know, yo. you know what Drake should have said nigga fuck you get molested nigga nigga niggins should have clapped you at birth nigga your mama should have swallowed you
Starting point is 02:16:10 this is hip hop gang like I don't like Kendrick can't come with that soft shit Kendrick literally say you should die Drake over here getting poetic and shit man you said nigga your mama should have swallowed you as a kid she swallowed everybody on slosting and then Compton
Starting point is 02:16:24 nigga I would have made up all type of lies your mama's a cum dumpster me and the whole gang ran through it I don't have said anything nigga yo you gotta make a better lies man That's when I realize I'm like, Drake, his lies ain't hit. Nick, I would have been talking about Ken, when I'm done talking about Kendrick's mama, his dead relatives,
Starting point is 02:16:40 Kendrick would have said, fuck rap, let's fight. You gotta say the most heinous things. This is battling. Like, Drake was really, like, explain himself. That's why these pedophile raps is a shit you're obsessus. You obsess with, it's so excessive. They acting like it's so aggressive, but you never know affection. I don't want to diss you anymore, but this got me second guessing.
Starting point is 02:17:05 Touched my body by Mariah. play you probably start reflecting I never been on with no one under rage but now I understand why that's the angle you really mess with just for clarity I feel disgusted I'm too respected if I was fucking young girls I promise I'd be arrested I'm way too famous for the shit that you suggested
Starting point is 02:17:20 ah hell now you know what you should have said Nick I heard you fuck the baby at birth like fuck that man yo make up yo he lied on you make him a bigger lie straight up he lied on you you make a bigger lie nigga when I'm done lying on you the battle was about
Starting point is 02:17:42 lies let's keep it a beam like and and i'm saying lies because nothing is substantiated we ain't find if if if kensrick beat up his girl we can't find if drake's a pedophile we can't find nothing they claim it's just a bunch of hearsay and possible lies so i would have lied the best it's rap that's what you do i would have lied the best yo didn't you and day free run a train all your wife and like you slurped up the seaman after you none of her nigga i would have said the craziest thing You know, niggas would have been like, what? Nigel, when I'm done saying shit, Kenrick would have said, fuck all that.
Starting point is 02:18:17 He would have started doing burpees on the way to my crib, niggins, Thomas Squabble. Fuck all that rapping shit. Yes, you got to make up lies. Yo, Kendrick knows how. Yo, if you're not a good liar, it's not about rapper. If you're not a good liar, leave Kendrick along. Straight up.
Starting point is 02:18:40 Like, if Drake wanted to win this battle, nigga, I would have bought a VHS tape with Kendrick's mom getting hit doggy style, like in a trap house, nigga. in Compton, straight up, straight up. That's what I would have done. This is why 50 Cent don't lose battles. Yo, Rick Ross was out music in 50 Cent.
Starting point is 02:18:59 You know what 50 Cent? Yo, give me the video of Rick Ross's baby mama getting fucked. Yes, that's what you do. It's hip-hop. Yes, yes. Get the video of his baby-mom again donkey-fucked. Yes, that's what happens. Play with me.
Starting point is 02:19:11 I got the video of her again donkey-fucked, nigger. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes. That's what hip-hop is. This is my good old. hip-hop there's no levels to this there's no levels to this nigger the hip-hop I love but niggins start talking too crazy you show up when they block yo I'm here niggins say I ain't
Starting point is 02:19:28 out here yo it's O block right here yo I'm here I'm in Compton what's popping so woo I think I'm already doing everything make me no goddamn battle like what and especially we're lying and he lying and you don't want to lie I'm lying more naga 50 cent realized yo Ross was in his bag do I remember Rick Ross
Starting point is 02:19:59 Bro um Rick Ross diss to 50 cent Is it Mafia music Bro This was when He was he was
Starting point is 02:20:14 Um Mafia music too Bro Fitt Yo Ross was going crazy on 50 musically. I got a I got a feeling
Starting point is 02:20:27 and I'm the truth yo this thing went crazy you know if 50 realized why am I rapping with this nigga man how many how many mom's he got
Starting point is 02:20:35 bro let's go get that bitch man is it this what's the most shrimp nigga oh the moose shrimp what's the song it's mafia music right yo
Starting point is 02:20:47 that nigga yo he floated on his beat so much nigga I say I don't care if he's a CEO he's a CEO or the warden like, bro, Rick Ross, Rick Ross was dropping 40. I remember when Kobe caught a rape case?
Starting point is 02:21:02 Kobe Bryant rape case stats during that time. He, yo, to distract people from the rape case, he caught. He dropped 40 points every night, nigga. Straight up. Nigas, straight up. Yo, straight up. Let's look at the time period. In July 2003, he caught it, right?
Starting point is 02:21:22 July 2003 Let me just Google it And it kept going until 2005 All right Every time it went or Every time it went public Niggia was bowling like it was out of control Kobe Bryant 8 40 point games in a row
Starting point is 02:21:40 He dropped 8 40 point games look Nigger he did that D niggas niggas was bo-look in 2003 Y'all niggas talking about rape Bowling! Double team Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Shack.
Starting point is 02:21:56 Ha ha ha ha. Donk! Yo, that nigga was going crazy, bro. Like, yo, yo, niggas try to talk about, yo, yo, they're in the post game press conference. Like,
Starting point is 02:22:04 yo, so Kobe, so when you were in Denver, did you, did you rape that girl? I raped the basket. The basket. You said to drop 60? Yo, that nigger was scoring points.
Starting point is 02:22:11 I was going to stop, bro. That nigger was going crazy. Anybody remember that? Kobe gets the allegation. Like, you know the little ESPN thing? Kobe, accused of rape. Denver, Colorado, every game that nigga dropped 40 points.
Starting point is 02:22:32 Straight up. The entire month of February, the nigga was bawling like it was going out of style. That's how you put up when your backs to the wall. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:55 He got formally charged in July, but the news came. out the news came out in early look the news came out in like January yeah yeah I ain't gonna lie man yeah that's when he got charged but I forgot when it happened this nigga was dropping 30 like it's going out star gang shot to my boy Kobe man that's that was Rick Ross they say oh Rick Ross he's a CEO that's when you know snitching is popular now what you mean the nigga rapping about I know the real Noriega. He owed me a hundred favors.
Starting point is 02:23:54 I'm moving weight across the Atlantic. What do you mean he's a corrections officer? 50s on his headtop. 50s going crazy. Yo, that nigger Rick Ross was dropping the best music of his life. That nigga was in the studio dropping 40 points every night on some Kobe shit. Mafia music?
Starting point is 02:24:17 Oh, my God. Oh my God When I heard this I don't care if he was the CEO If he was the warden If it was the arrested officer Or if he was the DA Whoever made this type of music I like
Starting point is 02:24:33 And now what other song do you this? Rick Ross This 50 cent songs Every song you dropped on 50 was classic Brough officer Ricky was cool too though Officer Ricky All right What's the other songs? Man he was
Starting point is 02:24:49 on crazy bro everything Ross dropped then he drops another remakes with game and game join on it 50 did Tia told me oh valley of death ooh I love that sample if I could leave this place with this smile on my face
Starting point is 02:25:06 so I'm in a video that 50 dropped when Gia and Goons went to Calh's mom job that was that's you see that's the thing I don't think Drake down a new shit like that hit makers I agree with you Rick Ross you know later Rick Ross Later 50 said it was, um, it was, um, what was the name again?
Starting point is 02:25:28 It was French Montana. We record the video. DJ Khalid, mom sleeping. This rap beef right here. Yeah. Look, I see him at the BETT award. That's funny. Like, I remember seeing Calais.
Starting point is 02:25:43 I'm a fucked up necker. You should do something to me. Y'all got this little poem I wrote for DJ Callet. Check this shit out, right? It's called. I just want to tell you what a psychic told me. Oh, shit. The car ties got stabbed out.
Starting point is 02:25:55 Now you know, I know where you be. Oh, shit. See, how 50 is big? Yo, how Drake was talking to 50 and didn't get like this type of energy? Like, bro. Like, come on, man. I just want to tell you what it's like you told me. I know where your mama house at.
Starting point is 02:26:12 Now look, you can see. Niggie, they got to film the shit. See. But I just want to tell you what it's like you told me. I know where your mama work at. Now look at sleep. It said large coffee. It must be decaf.
Starting point is 02:26:35 Oh my God. Yeah, let me tell you this. Some B-F ain't really, rap B-fan one with rhymes is one with disrespect and a little bit of rhymes. Damn, they video on the desk. Nah, 50's a demon. They got a D-Sin-a-50 shirt on. I just want to tell you what a cycle told me.
Starting point is 02:27:13 I'm not the kind of nigga you should fuck with me. I'm special. They said it was French Montana who filmed that. which I always wondered like what's that conversation French had with yo 50 was with Ross's baby mom you know 50 was one of them bro yeah I'm surprised somebody
Starting point is 02:27:47 end up dead in that shit I haven't go a lot of you bro I'm so surprised somebody did not end up dead in that shit bro like how who like is this he got the concept for me with the souls irrelevant to it I was an artist that used to just spit
Starting point is 02:28:11 And it's just the one that gave 50 cent the footage of DJ Callet's mom and where she worked back back How did he get that footage? She was all over this is a frail how we were talking about the he was a part of everybody click around every artist late so he had access from being the So did he tell you directly like, yo, I just got this footage of DJ Callis mom. I'm back. So I want to talk. Wow.
Starting point is 02:28:55 Because somebody mobs. And you must have to be how you know. I want to get the most come up. This is. Anyway, it's my point, man. Drake can't get disrespectful enough. That's a point. All right.
Starting point is 02:29:13 Anyway. All right. All right. Speaking of disrespect, oh, speaking of disrespect, though. Speaking of disrespect Looks like the constant back and forth Between these guys are never gonna end So remember yesterday
Starting point is 02:29:30 Enel E Chappo was trying to fight Or Blueface Is trying to fight Enelie Chappo Fucking arguing with you Nick I'm not fucking you nigga Hey DLE DLC chopper bro Check it out fool
Starting point is 02:29:46 I'm not gonna do too much Lit boxing With the booty bandit Like Like, you're getting your ass eight. As a man. What the fuck position are you in physically as a man for a woman to lick your ass, brother? I can't think of one position you could be in for a woman to lick your ass as a man.
Starting point is 02:30:14 That's not hell of gay. That's just me. See, me? But anyways, like, bro, we scribble a number not. I'm not gonna be lip boxing with you, fool. I don't know, I don't know how to, how to make a rap of beefy. I don't know how to, how to make a discracky, every weekie, back and forth. I'm fucking arguing with you, nigga, I'm not fucking,
Starting point is 02:30:41 back in four feet, back and forth feet. Fuck all that. You got 24 hours, fool, to agree or disagree or shut the fuck up. Didos. That's all I know how to do is take it there. school crit, bro. Like, what are we doing, bro? That's all I know.
Starting point is 02:31:00 You know, I know I can argue with a bitch all day long. But with a d'nagga, I'm fucking arguing with you, nigga. I'm not fucking you, nigga. Squabble up. We can figure this out. Real fast. Shut.
Starting point is 02:31:17 Let's figure it out, chop. What are you doing, man? Got 24 hours. Everybody get on his eyes. Bro, you're taking a fade or not? If not, shut the fuck. Okay. I didn't respondent.
Starting point is 02:31:29 And y'all, take your son and stand him behind the blue face. Catch your son. What about there? Yeah, Todd. Take your son. I'm going to decline your offer.
Starting point is 02:31:41 With a way better proposition for you. You feel me? Because we know you owe $23 million to that club for one. You owe another $100,000 to soldier boy, baby mama. So your goal is to give me
Starting point is 02:31:56 to fight you to help pay off your job. debt. Okay, cool. I understand that. Right. So that's my reason to not fight you, because I ain't going to help you pay your debt, but I got a better proposition for you, nigga. How about this? Blue Fay, I'm going to decline your offer. A catch you look. And what about this? Yeah, talk. Take your in. Y'all, your son and stand behind beside my son. And let's see which one of them motherfuckers know how to operate. Let's see, hey, hold your son beside my son.
Starting point is 02:32:30 Let's see which one that can hold their head off, fuck, nigger. Huh? How about that? Yeah, nigga. Put your son beside my son. Let's see them bark, nigga. Let's see them slap box, nigga. Huh?
Starting point is 02:32:40 Put your son beside my son. Let's see who can hold their fingers up. Now, I don't think Ennelly Choppel realized Blueface got two sons. He got Charles Barkley Jr. And then he got the older one who's mad normal. So they motherfucking old, nigga. Take your son and stand him behind. Blueface.
Starting point is 02:32:59 A catchy little, my nigga, catch you a little slow. A catchy little slow. A catchy little slow. That kick dust from that, nigga. Pussy! Your nigga, stand up. You worry about the wrong shit. You're on Twitch, plan.
Starting point is 02:33:21 Having a financial crisis, nigga. Fuck identity, a car, nigga. You want to come at me every day because you need somebody at nighttime you so you get some money on. You would never pay it back, No, show me $23 million right now, nigga. Show me $23 million, nigga. Yeah, show me that, nigga.
Starting point is 02:33:40 Talking about some boxing. Talk about some DLE. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but show me $23, nigga. Because you're stupid, nigga. Yeah, show me that. And what about this? Yeah, Charles Barkley.
Starting point is 02:33:53 Put your hand up, nigga. Take a step, Charles. Yeah. What's up with your son, Nick? Pussy, nigga. He handle me in the street. Y'all keep playing with me. I ain't playing. You think this shit funny guys in entertainment. I'm dead serious, nigga. Put your son beside my son, nigga. Put little Charles Barkley behind, beside Chosen. Okay. Well, I guess he turns it down, y'all. Turning down fades publicly is crazy. But I don't know what to do after this point, y'all. This is why I exit at. I just want to start talking about all the type of other random shit. I ain't got shit to do with shit. So thank you guys for your time.
Starting point is 02:34:39 Eat a dick. Okay, he wasn't done there. He came back. My son will whip your son ass dead on me, snigger. Since you're scared, let your son get his ass fooled up. Yeah. Somebody said, I got this dude. He's a pussy for real.
Starting point is 02:34:58 So he wants, he wants. Yo, he talks with son like that? What? Kids to fight instead of grown man. So can you whip his son ass for me? Let me see you. Let me see the square. Nah, this is a good son. I don't condone, like, even, like, this type of shit.
Starting point is 02:35:15 But this is, like, W. Son. Like, this is W. Son right here. Now, this is W. Son. Yo, just take my credit card. Buy anything on any of these games. Buy whatever you want. This is W. Sons. On school, you all crap, nigger.
Starting point is 02:35:32 Let me see how you're going to win it to that. Let me see how you're gonna beat his ass. I give you a thousand robux. Let me see how you beat ass. A thousand robux? Is that Roblox money? Let me see. Now, it's some might be on it.
Starting point is 02:35:48 See how you're gonna punch him. Oh. Oh, damn. You got to hit him in nuts. Oh! All right, we're going to set it up, all right? I guess. Big.
Starting point is 02:36:01 Come on, fool. Dally, look. Nah, I ain't going to lie. Blueface son might be on that, too. And he says it's a difference in running a fate and trying to put together a boxing match for profit off to cater to your debt. That's what NLEE said. And Blueface says, how about we do it for free? All the money go to charity of your choice.
Starting point is 02:36:22 Enali, what's the excuse? Yo, NLE is trying to do what I'm trying to do to do the little baby. Like, nah, there's no excuse to why we can't squabble. Like, well, what's up? What's up? But Blueface is doing it way better. I ain't going to hold you. And then what happened afterwards?
Starting point is 02:36:37 To fight my son will whip your son ass dead on me snigger Since you scared let your son get his ass full top Chop you didn't came for the wrong motherfucker fool DLE fool like I'm really on that Nigger don't gotta pay me a motherfucking theme to fight you brother So I know you thought you came up with a good excuse to decline But now I'm I'm going against your excuse now nigger We can fight at your mama house in the back yard.
Starting point is 02:37:11 Be it all. He's for free. I beat ass for free. So what are we doing, brother? You still declining? Like, what the fuck? You declining because of some shit that you don't even know about. All right.
Starting point is 02:37:31 How about this? Fuck all that shit. Squabble up or shut the fuck up. So then. about this. I'll come back to it. Annalie actually apologizes for bringing up his son, because I think a lot of
Starting point is 02:37:53 people say, yo, bro, like, how did it get this far? And he put out an apology and the apology was here we go. He says me and Blueface is going to be handling that for show. Last time we had words, he apologized for bringing my mom
Starting point is 02:38:09 in stuff. I owe you the same respect. I apologize for what I said about your son from the heart. I texted you this message in private, but wanted to do the same publicly. Okay? So, so, you know, he's not apologizing for what's happening. He's just apologizing for bringing his son up. And, yeah, that's kind of interesting, chat.
Starting point is 02:38:28 I haven't gone to lie to you. Interesting. We'll see if it happens. Probably won't, right? Okay. OTF jam. He got a message, and I got to ask y'all the question. We haven't seen OTF jam charged with anything.
Starting point is 02:38:44 We don't know if he's actually involved in the case. But he's been rumored to long have been the kind of like the cooperator or a possible person who is helping the police put away OTF and more specifically, little Dirk. He finally put out a message on his Instagram today and he said this. He says, I don't care what or he says, I don't care who, who's what or what you think of me. I hope you're taking care of yourself and not thinking about dirt and not thinking dirt. and pay your bills or help take care of your ugly-ass kids you goofy ass act like y'all on an o't fayroll to make comments and ironically one of the comments that pop up and this was a random screenshot that says rat then he says die heart fans keyword is die you know a lot of people
Starting point is 02:39:34 feel like this comment is a precursor to him telling basically saying people care about dirk too much and that no matter how much they care about dirk or what they're willing to do for dirk dirk ain't going to be paying their bills and that everybody need them on their business so a lot of people think that this is him you know kind of like announcing that he intends to tell uh i don't know i've seen trenches news who kind of like i feel like he's in the loop a little bit i've seen him on vlad tv he was talking about that i didn't watch yet dj glad uh we're hearing a lot of rumors who the cooperants are. I think at this point, you know, we can't confidently say, but we do think that one of them might end up being OTF Vani. And here we go in terms of, hold on, we're going to try
Starting point is 02:40:23 to get the conversation about who are the snitches, so to speak, in this case. Here we go. Trenge's news said there's nine witnesses. Let's hear this. V. What's up, Vlad? What's going on, man? Well, we have a lot to talk about, but you know what we're starting with, of course. My favorite people, huh? Yeah, the Lil Durk Murder for Hire case, and you're wearing a Vonny Did It sweatshirt right now. Bonnie did it, yes, sir, yes, sir. He did it, man.
Starting point is 02:41:00 Okay. All right, so let's talk about the big picture. Now, the trial got pushed back to April 21st, 2006. That is in about three months or so. Were you surprised those pushback? Yeah, a little bit, a little bit, but then I thought like, no, they ready.
Starting point is 02:41:20 They're ready to go because Dirk kept on saying that he ready. He don't want no more continuing. So it's not that Dirk is ready, is that Dirk don't want to give them more time to flip other people. This case is based upon the prosecutor trying to leverage people against people trying to hope people would
Starting point is 02:41:36 break and the quicker you take them to trial, if people didn't break, you at least get those people to rush to the stand or at least not be involved in the trial that, you know, later on it could help you. And that got to be the strategy here. You know, it's not that Dirk is ready, right? Because remember, he's playing defense. He doesn't have to put up a case. His case is going to be none of, you know, none of what actually you guys are alleging is true. I'm a musician. Yes, maybe I didn't like the guys who got shot at, but I didn't send nobody to go do no shooting. I don't have, like, I might have motive, but everybody who's charged, and there's a lot of people who have motive to hurt this guy, that proves nothing.
Starting point is 02:42:18 You can't, there's nothing super incriminating by music. I always talk like that all the way going back to 2013. So his defenses are pretty simple. Like, it's nothing that he needs to, like, cook up or, or like, you know, rehearse. He's not taking a stand. He's basically going to say, hey, I'm going to show you reasonable doubt that. I didn't send these murderers, and I never promised no one pay for a murder. That's his case.
Starting point is 02:42:43 So that's why he wants to get to the trial immediately. I thought they was going to go with it. But then again, it's so much information. And the burden of proof is on the prosecutor, not the defense. Many people that I knew they weren't going to be ready on the other end. Well, right, because there's other co-defendants, and Lil Durk was locked up for like 100 days in solitary, something like that. Yep.
Starting point is 02:43:07 For the Apple Watch. And the shoe. Right. And when he had his hearing recently, the only person that showed up was his girl India. Yeah, it gets like that, Vlad. That's how it gets, man. That's why I be telling the youth. It gets lonely, man, when it's dark.
Starting point is 02:43:30 Right. And my man, Drew Finling, is now representing him, which is a good thing. But at the end of the day, these are lawyers, not wizards. So there's definitely a big hill to get over here. Yeah, it's going to be a big fight for Drew. He's going to have to pull it out there all the tricks. Right, right. So let's talk about what's happening right.
Starting point is 02:43:55 Now, you know, even though I said there's no case for Dirk to present, usually if Dirk was pushing the case back, you know, they gave him discovery. And so let me, I'm correct, we're not correct, but I'm going to add on to what I was saying. So Dirk doesn't necessarily, they probably, whatever cases is, their case will be presented in one day or two days. The state is going to take at least a week or two. I would imagine two weeks with witnesses, with eyewitnesses, with people that could attest for the victims,
Starting point is 02:44:26 people who were in the store, who could speak to how violent this is, that it could really resonate on the jury. The state, or not state, I mean the government. So government is feds. Usually we're saying state, we're talking about state government. or or or dAs so the government is going to do a lot the preparation that dirk has to do or drew finland is not necessarily when it's their turn because all they're going to say they're just going to sum it up and say hey listen they're going to bring some music managers up there hey listen um how are flights usually booked they're going to just give some reason without hey um you know how does dirk usually talk about this oh what does dirk usually mean when he says this where was dirk if he was with his girl, his girl might take the stand and says, he was with me.
Starting point is 02:45:13 Do you remember him getting any calls that day? Did you, you were on the private jet as well with him? Do you remember him telling any? And she's going to say, no, he never did none of that, right? So it's a really quick case for his defense case. The real money is going to be earned, and this is just like the Diddy case. The real money is going to be earned on cross-examination. The reason why Diddy lawyers were so good on cross-examination,
Starting point is 02:45:34 they made a very good point to destroy all the main witnesses. Cassie got destroyed or her credibility was there was a severe hose poked into it. Remember, you only need to create reasonable doubt. You don't need to necessarily full-on win. You need to create reasonable doubt. And after Cassie got off the stand, the jury said, I don't know if she was sex trafficked. We don't know if she was sex trafficked, okay? And that was enough that he beat the RICO and he beat sex trafficking, which was the two biggest charges that carried at least 20 years.
Starting point is 02:46:01 So that's going to be the brunt of this whole trial. you're going to get Drew Finlay and his team, they're going to take to task every single witness. And by now, if they're pushing for February, they have a witness list or they're trying to fast track it that the government don't add more witnesses because it's going to be more people you have to prepare for and the more people that get up on that stand
Starting point is 02:46:28 that will probably be speaking for the government as cooperators. they're going to make you look like you did some shit. Right now in the case. So I guess there's multiple witnesses that are saying that Dirk had a million dollar bounty. Yep. Okay, explain that. So in a first paperwork,
Starting point is 02:46:49 it never said about a bounty at first. It was just saying a murder for hire. So PW, it was a PW who said that Dirk had $600,000 for O Block. So they was riding around O Block. I was supposed to kill Money Duke and another guy for that money. And then, you know, this came about with the million dollars on Quando Rondo, a PW and Atlanta who fighting for his life say that he was there for the first shooting of Quando Rondo now. After the, after they concert or something. Oh, he means protected witness, I'm guessing.
Starting point is 02:47:24 It was a shooting at the gas station. So, yeah, it's been money brought up. Okay, so now you have someone who's connected to Dirk who's saying that he was responsible for a shooting that happened in Georgia where Cuando Rondo was shot at. I don't know, didn't someone get hit? Yeah, someone got hit, and it was at a gas station. Right, they're coming back from a show.
Starting point is 02:47:49 So now they have someone who's saying they're the shooter? Yeah, saying that Dirk NEM was responsible for that shooting, which is just a pattern of stalking what the fed's looking at. Oh, okay. Okay. How hard is that to prove, though? Federally, like in a state, if Dirk was in a state, it probably would be a better fight for Drew. But by being federal, it's whatever the witness say, I'm glad.
Starting point is 02:48:16 I'm going to keep it real, man. Whatever the witness get up there and say the lawyer can tear them down in federal court, it's like it's still the witness word. Right, but this is not some. concerned citizen who feels bad about the situation and they tell their wife that they're going to go, you know, to the police to admit to this. This is someone that's already in prison, right? Yep.
Starting point is 02:48:42 You say fighting for his life, so what is he facing right now? I think the guys who they're referring to is the kidnapping case that just happened with Boona and another guy from Chicago. Because they're saying the guy don't know too many people, but he know he knows, he knows but he don't know too many other people that's connected to OTF. So it's one of them people that's lingering around who was around, who know things. But they knew too much. They was around for a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 02:49:15 Okay. So the feds are saying there's nine witnesses? Yep, it's nine witnesses. You got to think about it. You got Vani missing. You got the other guy flock. He ain't coming to court either when Durkham showed up. That's two people.
Starting point is 02:49:29 Then you got number two. the other shooter, he'd been missing. Then you got number five. You got co-conspirator number three, which is a manager. And then you got PW1, PW2, CW. Yeah, it's all bad, man. And all these people connected to Dirk in some way. Nine witnesses that are going to take the stand
Starting point is 02:49:55 and say that Dirk was the reason why this murder happened. Yep. Okay. And those nine people ain't indicted either. Got to say that. Except Bonnie. Except Bonnie. But Bonnie has kind of disappeared.
Starting point is 02:50:11 I think he's taking a secret plea. Well. Or a sealed plea. Co-conspirators are usually indicted, aren't they? Coakist. They're missing. When I say indicted, I mean mugshot. It's only certain people with mug shots.
Starting point is 02:50:27 Like, Bonnie ain't no, he ain't no co-conspirator. He wouldn't be one because he wouldn't be a number. number five because he got a mug shot. Number four, too. We forgot about number four, the guy from Cali. He's going to have to tell who he called. True. Okay.
Starting point is 02:50:44 Now, you talked about there's six sealed documents that are going to prove, according to the feds, that Dirk actually directed the killings? Yep. It's in the paperwork that just dropped. It just dropped like three days, four days ago. And it says that it's six sealed documents
Starting point is 02:51:02 that would prove that Dirk directed. the murder and he was aware on top of the witnesses that's gonna get up there and say it too okay so I mean how does this work if you have a sealed document
Starting point is 02:51:17 would the other side like Dirk's lawyer won't get to see it? Yeah Dirk's lawyer seeing everything when they sign the AEO it's like for you to see it you can't tell your your client you can't tell them who the witnesses is
Starting point is 02:51:33 I don't allow to you as much. I don't know what's your opinion about this guy. He's always pretty knowledgeable. He knows in court terms. He kind of either is well read or sometimes be watching him. I think the fans be feeding him info, bro. He'd be on point. AEO is attorney eyes only.
Starting point is 02:51:57 What that mean is that they can't leave. So Dirk is entitled to discovery. They could say certain things as attorney eyes only, which means the attorney. like so dirk in his cell has discovered in its cell you're allowed to use the time you're incarcerated to review your case so he has a stack of papers young thug did too anything that's aeo only dirk cannot have in his possession without the presence of his attorney and actually it's not really i mean of course he's going to see it but he can't have a copy of it it's for attorney eyes only
Starting point is 02:52:33 why that's going to be where the snitches are why because if you are locked up and you see all the the names of the cooperants, you're going to take a picture of that, send it out somewhere, and people going to try to kill their families. So to make sure that doesn't happen, they file it a certain way to say, the only two people have this is the prosecutors and the attorney. And this is attorney eyes only. If it comes out any other way, it's probably safe to assume that you gave a copy of this to your client who then somehow got it out.
Starting point is 02:53:09 because this is where witnesses and stuff like that's going to be. Okay? Also, everything in the case is under protective order, too. Is you can't tell them anything, but you see it. Drew see it. He see the fight. Yeah, I heard about this. I heard in the feds there are situations where the lawyer can't even tell his own client certain things.
Starting point is 02:53:29 Yeah, you can't. You can't go over, no, you can't let them write it down or none of that. It's like a disc that they look off in a room and read it off a screen. See, this is where I'm like, yo, how'd he be knowing this? He knows a lot. Okay, you got nine witnesses, six sealed documents, and don't they have like gigabytes of data and so forth? Yeah, this guy, he's kind of credible on this stuff.
Starting point is 02:53:54 When it comes to like Chicago in diamonds, he's probably be at the trial. Here we go. Tell me exactly what Vonny's role is right now in the big picture. And a big picture, Vani is the mastermind. He brought the guns. He brought the cars. He paid two of the people off. He was the mastermind.
Starting point is 02:54:21 He the mastermind that's going to try to get 20 years or whatever for telling, 25 years for telling on a little dirt and the rest of that. Right. You're saying that the feds are offering him a 300-month plea deal. Yeah, according to him. According to him? Yeah, according to him. He had, see, he broke down some text messages that he sent to his dad, and his dad ended up sending to me, and I end up putting it out.
Starting point is 02:54:49 He'd been planning on flipping since November, since they got locked up. I think they got locked up in October, and them text messages from, like, November 11th. So from that time to November, he already planned on flipping. Damn. Okay, so you're saying that Vani texted his dad, and why would his dad hand over that information to someone else? That's what this guy interviewed. His dad, he says.
Starting point is 02:55:10 that Dirk and Vani had played them out the money. You know, I ain't going to even bring up the backdoor Vine stuff because I don't believe that. But the things that he did say, it ended up in a paperwork. Like it's ended up like he tried to back the old block and all that. He said that and it's in a paperwork.
Starting point is 02:55:30 Okay. Now, I've always said this. In fact, when I interviewed Drew Finlay, I said in the interview, I said that, you know, Dirk has a chance of beating this unless his day one guys flip on. Well, I mean, from my point of...
Starting point is 02:55:46 You know, Vlad is stating obvious. Water is wet, brother. Of course. This case is only about stinches. The people that been around through everything. So he knows a lot. And he was in a car with Dede, the fed saying that he was in a car. They never hopped out.
Starting point is 02:56:02 They were stalking in the car. So he connects everybody. When the fairs talk to him, Blad, you got to explain to the feds, like when you're making a deal, who did you get the guns from? So now you got to tell everybody who gave the guns from. That knockout the shooters. Who are you on the car with? I was in the car with Didi.
Starting point is 02:56:19 That seals Dedy faith. Who was you on the airplane with? And did he know that's Dirt? He connect everybody. Vani is connected with everybody to seal everybody faith. Well, the argument could be, though, that Vani was cool with King Vonn. And maybe it was just all Vani. Maybe Dirk had no idea.
Starting point is 02:56:41 Vanny did it. I'm glad you said that. Because he has the most motive to do it. He has the most motive. Von is his cousin. He's trying to live it up. Von is his cousin? Oh, I didn't know it was cousin, but he was the manager of Vaughn.
Starting point is 02:56:55 He was, you know, a thing supposedly there. Yeah. He around some money. He got access to credit cards. He can call these guys because these guys called when they broke in the trenches. Like, he has a lot of motive. and that's why I got on the Vonnie did it.
Starting point is 02:57:11 So you feel that OTF Vonny did it and not Little Durk? Now whether he knew about it or whatever that's the case because the credit cards, you're going to have to explain like a lot like it was credit cards,
Starting point is 02:57:22 use airplanes, but Vani is the mastermind behind. He has more motive to me as a journalist than anybody. You know, Dirk has, you know, that's Dirk friend Vaughn,
Starting point is 02:57:33 but they saying this is cousin though. It hit different when it, It's a cousin and a friend. Well, what if Dirk takes a stand and says, yeah, this is all OTF, Vani? I told him not to do it. I had no idea that he was even doing it or whatever else, whatever the strategy is, whether he didn't know about it or maybe he knew about it and told him not to do and he still did it. Do you think that Dirk would actually take the stand against Vani in his own case?
Starting point is 02:58:02 I don't think that Dirk going to take the stand because it's like he didn't set a standard, you know, Don't talk to the police. Don't do this. Don't snitch. You know, no paperwork and all that. But if he love his kids, man, if he love his wife, everything that he fucking worked for, man, I'd be up there. This shit bigger than need no, bro.
Starting point is 02:58:23 You did it. You did it. I told it. I told you. I told you don't do it. The reason why I called them and said, don't put nothing in my name because they go places and they do things. You know, you just got to come up with it. Hey, ain't nobody going to be mad at Dirk if he.
Starting point is 02:58:41 Well, I think the lawyer is going to say that. I don't think he has to do it. The lawyer is going to exactly say that. I don't think he has to do it. We're going to see what happens, but it's looking like the co-conspirators are coming out of the woodworks, and we're going to see who's going to be telling. The trial is set for April.
Starting point is 02:58:57 Initially, when he got locked up, it was set for October. Then he got moved back to January. And now supposedly, and the judge is adamant about this. He says, April, everybody be ready. We're going to figure it out. Okay. Really quickly, I want to pull this up. And I'm pretty sure that my man was doing this for some, like, you know, clickbait, like, you know, rage bait type of stuff.
Starting point is 02:59:22 But I will say, I don't know if you guys seen this, but DDG, he actually tweeted out. He says, streamers make more money than 95% of the NFL. Now, Chad Ochosenko had to respond to this. Chad Ochosenko, Twitter, he responded to this on Twitter. he responded to this on Twitter when he he quote tweeted DDG and he had like a face
Starting point is 02:59:45 like you know reaction to it's kind of like what the fuck what are you talking about the face in question is where is that where is that damn nigga tweets a lot holly
Starting point is 02:59:57 oh give me one second I'm not for that one thing my bad chat anyway uh okay So he, where's his tweet? Oh, this was this, he put this face right here. And this was to DDG's post.
Starting point is 03:01:04 I said streamers make more money than 95% of the NFL. Now, I think DDG is like rage baiting, but I do want to be very factual with Jal and give you all the real behind it. 0.001% of streamers make more than 99.9% of, you know, NFL players. Let's look at a few things, right? highest paid NFL player 2025, right? Let's see the salary. So Patrick Mahomes got paid about $78 to $80 million.
Starting point is 03:01:37 I'm going to be honest with you. I think Kaysen Ed and Aden Ross probably are close to that for their yearly earnest for the last year. Okay. Now, again, I believe that's a salary, right? Oh, well, on the field. if it's 50 million, yeah, yeah, Kai and, Kai and Aden definitely, like, tie them, right? Or it's right there with them.
Starting point is 03:01:59 So basically, but here's the thing. And this is why I hate when, you know, I think it's giving people like the perception that it's not. Streaming is, you know, it's not tougher than 9 to 5, but it's one of those things that you have to really grind. There's a rare few that are in that 1%, and then even, like, on a, you could only count on a handful that are in the point 0.0.01%. Let me just quickly break down stream.
Starting point is 03:02:23 if you guys care to know, okay? So, and let me show you how it precipitously drops off. If you ask me, 80% of full-time streamers will make less than $25,000 a year, 85%, okay? Some of them get, you know, their Twitch check is going to be like $1,000 a month. It might be $1,500, $1,500, but if you do the math on those numbers, it's still below $25,000 a year. That's 80, 85% of all, and what I mean full-time streamers,
Starting point is 03:03:05 it means these streamers who do at least, I won't even say 40 hours a week, but let's just say, I don't know, let's say 100 hours a month. So of streamers, so I'm only talking about full-time streamers, not talking about somebody who sparts up one time and never does again. So people who do 100 hours a month, we're going to call full-time streamers. 80% of them make less than 25%.
Starting point is 03:03:31 Okay? 90% of them make less than 50,000 a year. That's going to shock people. Actually, I'm going to say 60. Around 50 and 60, mostly in most places, are what people would call a teacher salary. I personally believe that 90% of full-time streamers on Twitch or on any streaming platforms make less than a teacher does. The people that most of y'all watch are not even in the 95 percentile.
Starting point is 03:04:16 It's not 5 percent. They're in the 1%. The percentage of streamers that I believe makes over and Twitch, well, release their stats or you know whoever won't release their stats the amount of people i think that make over 100 000 per year right in terms of streamers it's 5% of full-time streamers i want to show you this right now oh i'm bad but you go to twitch and you go here and maybe y'all know some of these people up here neon koso xc now i know y'all will look at it and be like well well You know, Wendy Ortiz probably makes so 100,000 a year.
Starting point is 03:05:09 Like, they're still in that 5%. When you look at these channels, you got to go all the way down. There's a shit ton of channels that don't even average 2,000 people watching them. Just keep going. It's a lot of streamers. The majority of streamers do not get views. The majority of streamers do not get views. Just keep going down.
Starting point is 03:05:39 And we're just in like Are we in one category or we're just in all categories? Oh, we're in all categories. All right. Let's keep going now. Okay. You see how I've scrolled for so long and it's between 700 viewers and 600 viewers?
Starting point is 03:06:01 That's the majority of streamers, bro. These people ain't making 100,000. Like this idea that streamers all make manned money is not true. 5% of streamers make 100,000. 1% of streamers make like half a million And then 0.01 make at least a million And then 0.001 make at least 10 million If that makes sense.
Starting point is 03:06:30 So if you ask me 85% of streamers make less than 25,000 a year 90% of streamers make less than 60,000 a year. 95% make less than 100,000 a year. 99 make less than half a million a year. And 99.9 make less than a million per year. The people who you see that are thrown around cash that got it, whether it's the Aiden's, it could be the agents, the, your rages, the neon.
Starting point is 03:07:14 They are 0.001 streamer. I hope you guys kind of like understand that. Like I wish they would show how many... Okay, okay, here we go. Oh, they don't show how many channels. Fuck, how do we see how many like channels? Like how many people streaming it? They don't show that stat.
Starting point is 03:07:40 I wish they did. Look, there's somebody streaming politics of five views. There's somebody with three viewers over here. Like, you get what I'm saying? See, how to... I want to figure out how many... channels are currently live that's all i want to figure out that'll tell me all i need to know how many people are currently live on twitch maybe you could tell me that not live viewers live channels
Starting point is 03:08:13 look again 119000 channels live 1009000 channels live right now let's even let's not even over exaggerate The seven-day average of channels is at any time, at any time, we're going on averages. A hundred thousand channels live. Okay? Now, from a hundred thousand channels live, let's cut it in half. Or actually, let's even do it better. Let's cut, nah, let's cut in a half. Let's say of all the channels live, only half do like a hundred hours.
Starting point is 03:08:56 even though it's probably less Let's do it in people's favor Of the 100,000 channels live Only 30,000 Let's go with that number 30,000 channels Are full time Okay
Starting point is 03:09:13 So this is how you do the math It's simple math people When you go to here, go to browse So let's say Really we should want we have So 50,000 I just go with 50,000 50,000 do a sizable amount of hours over a span of a month. The others get on, get off.
Starting point is 03:09:35 They might not do, they might do 10 hours, 5 hours. That's it. We're talking about for the month cumulatively. If you do 100 hours, we're going to consider you a full-time streamer. Let's look at all live channels. Okay. Now, some of these are like, I don't know if this is in person or it's a company. Okay.
Starting point is 03:09:58 The people up here 37,000, 28,000, okay, you're going to be making a million. Okay, y'all going to be making millions come here. But look at the precipitous drop off. This guy has 37,000. You scroll right here.
Starting point is 03:10:14 This guy is 10,000. You do two more scrolls, and this is on the whole site. This person has 3.7,000. If you're averaging, I'll be honest with you, If you average in like, if you average in around like 3,700 viewers on Twitch,
Starting point is 03:10:35 let's say you stream a good amount. Obviously, subs are a thing too. I'm trying to do the math here. Yeah, you're going to be making, you're going to be making six figures. Yeah, you're going to be making six figures. So we're going to assume that I'm going down. Everybody up here if they stream consistently could make six figures. Okay.
Starting point is 03:10:55 Now, once we get below 2K, this is where you're going to. get dicey but look how quickly we get there right so now if we're remember my math i'm telling you let's just go look so now under under 2k views we don't know right under 2k views we don't know actually let's be mad liberal let's go to one point so 1500 views let's let's think like if you do 500 viewers if you grind enough you'll get a 100 thousand right so cool Let's see how many people are doing 1,500 views or more right now, right? So we start here. One line, two, line, three, line, four, line, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, 19, 21, 19, 21, 14, 15, 21, 20, 20, 24, 20, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 301, 32, 33, okay, we'll just count it's 34.
Starting point is 03:11:54 Okay, 34 times it's tiled, so it's four, 34 times four, right? So 34 times four, I'll do the math here, because you're doing another tab. 34 times four is 136. So based on the math, and I'm doing ghetto math here, I said about one point, if you're average of 1,500, are you grind that much, you'll make 100,000. Currently on Twitch, only 136 channels are doing more than 1,500 views. Keep in mind right now there's a hundred thousand channels live So let's do the math we're gonna cut half of it
Starting point is 03:12:31 Well first of all let's not let's not cut half of it first Let's do 136 136 divided by 120,000 So that's the percentage of people right now That's on that site that you would like extrapolate to be making a hundred thousand per year. Let's see if my math was right.
Starting point is 03:13:00 Already it's ridiculously low. Now, grand, I'm not going to use this number because remember I told you, most of those channels aren't full time. So we weren't going to use the 120. We weren't going to use the 120. We were going to use 100K because that was a seven-day average. But I said we weren't going to use that. We were going to cut it in half.
Starting point is 03:13:17 But this number is so fucking low. Let's say only 30% of people live right now. full-time streamers so instead of using 100,000 we're going to just take 30% of it which is 30,000 so 136 divided by 30-0-0 look do you understand what I'm saying to get the percentages times 100 it's less than 1% so it's 0.4% in our estimation of full-time streamers that make over $100,000. $0.4%. This is why this argument is stupid.
Starting point is 03:14:09 Because average NFL player salary is $3.2 million. Lowest NFL player salary. The minimum salary for someone in the active roster is $840,000. So even if, as long as you're on a roster, you never play, you're basically a guy that's just running drills in practice,
Starting point is 03:14:38 you're getting paid $840,000. And this is why you can't compare streamers to the NFL because the percentage of football players that gets in the NFL is equally as low. But if you're not factoring who makes it to the NFL and you're just factoring everybody in the NFL versus everybody who's a full-time streamer, it doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 03:15:04 There is no barrier entry to be a full-time streamer. It's just effort. So this is what I'm trying to tell you. Aiden, Kai, speed, they are 0.001%. This is 0.5, basically. This is 0.5%. So divide this by 100. That's how rare those guys are.
Starting point is 03:15:36 And they're making 8 figures. 40 million. 50 million. So anyway, shout to DDG. I think he was, you know, it's popping a shit. Um, obviously, if we're speaking about DDG in particular, DDG is a 0.01 streamer. Like, if you ask me, DDG is pulling in, he's probably pulling in 10 mil.
Starting point is 03:16:03 Like, you know, cumulatively, like, I'm talking about YouTube and is streaming. Everything combined and opportunities that's coming. Like, it's definitely dwarped and dwarfed, dwarfed is, um, music money. Yeah. So if you told me that DDG pulls in 7, 8 million, yeah, I believe it. If it was 10, I'm not. No, never. But yeah, over $5 million, maybe $10.
Starting point is 03:16:27 If he told me pulled in 20, I'll be like, I'll be a little shock, but whatever. I'm only talking about streaming and, like, uploading and like, you know, just video content. Because streaming, you know, people upload shit or whatever. So for me, I'm the ultimate pocket watcher. I put DDG in the 5 to 10 range per year. I put the your rages in the 5 to 10 range, or actually probably even higher, 5 to 7 to 15, right? those guys have done deals and actually it might even be higher for um what's the name as well too so let's just say anywhere from 5 to 15 for ddg your rage for agent for who could we see
Starting point is 03:17:09 for neon and then the guys who are making middle eight figures are going to be the people when you get on here you see a hundred thousand when when you see 100,000 up here that motherfucker is making that person is making clearly 40 million 30 million you know
Starting point is 03:17:45 doing some math real quick yeah I won't call any names here but the streamer ones told me he gets a he's you know one of the top
Starting point is 03:18:18 you know view getters clearly over like 60K or whatever after like about four hours of streaming actually it was a longer stream I think it might have been like six hours. They told me that just running ads,
Starting point is 03:18:32 and Twitch does a really good job of monetizing ads, they said for a singular stream like six or seven hours, when they looked on a dashboard, and they said, that's normal, because they were pulling that consistently. They were getting like, you know, the stream that would get like $70,000. Right?
Starting point is 03:18:50 So that's to put it in perspective. When you're looking at view count, if you're not averaging over 60, you know, so let's do the math with that, right? So let's say you're getting 70K If you're pulling over 60,000 And you stream over like seven hours You're gonna get 70,000 dollars, right?
Starting point is 03:19:05 Cool. So 70K, let's say you stream at least three times a week You know, sometimes these guys get pretty big pause And they get a little bit lazy. Let's say they're doing at least three times a week, right? 70K times Um 70,000 times three We get to 210,000 per week
Starting point is 03:19:25 We times that. by 52 that base is already $10 million just off ads Let's add about I don't know $7 million like if you're pulling this
Starting point is 03:19:41 Just off ads we got to add at least $7 million on subrevenue Right? Because everything is going to be proportional Let's just add five Plus five So now we added 5milly Right
Starting point is 03:19:54 So now we're at 15 million then you got to add like usually that person's popular the youtube is kicking up to let's add another you know i don't know let's add another seven or eight million dollars right plus seven million again which by the way i think i'm low balling a lot you can see how now you have a top streamer they're in the range easily with me low ball and pause 23 million dollars this is 23 million this is for the year, right? But this is if you're averaging 60K like viewers, bro.
Starting point is 03:20:36 Like, come on. How many people you know averaging 60K viewers? Come on. Right? Now, if you're averaging 100, and you go on a mafia thorn every 22 days, yeah, this you just times 10.
Starting point is 03:20:50 You just times 10 with this one and just go to the banquet, right? Yeah. So, like, yeah, Kai, I would think that last year, He probably almost pushed maybe, got to be like 70, 7, at least 60 million, at least, at least.
Starting point is 03:21:13 Because he does these like mafia thons where he's averaging hundreds of thousands of dollars. Which usually if you go off like just CPM that Twitch provides, if he's running regular ads, an ad hour for him is going to be like 70,000 per hour. and he doesn't get off. So think about 70,000 per hour times 24 times 30 days. And then he gets back on.
Starting point is 03:21:41 Yeah, ridiculous. So, yeah, you know, like someone like Kai Sanat, if someone told me, yo, Kai Sanat's making more than, or Kai Sanat made more than, what's that guy we were talking about? Highest paid NFL player. It made more than Patrick Mahomes. I would believe it. I would.
Starting point is 03:22:04 I would. There's only one Kaisenat. See what I'm saying? So, yeah. All right. Yo, chat. Oh, man. Ah, boy.
Starting point is 03:22:32 Should I even play this? I don't even know if I should play this, y'all. Yo, chat. I saw this today, and I was fucking flabbergasted. Wait, where is it? Oh, no. I think I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 03:23:08 Huh? Where is it? I thought I sent it to myself. I'm gonna give you out of trigger warning before I play this shit So chat So the guy who um The guy who shot a little tj Remember little tj was shot seven times
Starting point is 03:24:16 In a parking lot of um Like it was like a little multi like store spot But you know there was a Chipotle in that spot Little tj subsequently survived But he went through a horrific and you know horrifying you know grueling recovery process and we all were praying for him and we're happy that he made it. Somehow the guy who shot him got out. I don't know how.
Starting point is 03:24:42 Usually this happened in Bergen County, which that's where Edgewater is, which ironically, all the rappers who get money, they're not running from their ops, but they leave Bronx, they leave the Brooklyn, and they all come to Edgewater and they bump into each other right there because that's the only place in Jersey that all the rappers and bottle girls know to go, right? That's where Fabio had his issue. That's where a little T.J. got shot. Everybody's
Starting point is 03:25:09 there. Every girl in Stardis is there. It's just a lot of bullshit that happens here. It's like little New York, right? It's like suburb New York. Anyway, the guy who shot him, the reason I mentioned the area is because that's Bergen County. They don't play there. Like, Bergen County is a majority Jewish-run county.
Starting point is 03:25:26 Why do I say it? It's just facts. There's laws that are baked into the book. I've said this consistently. I used to live there. in the county seat at Hackensack. And like, for example, there's a blue law, which means you cannot purchase clothes. Sunday is a holy day. Nothing could be open.
Starting point is 03:25:39 You can't purchase anything but necessity, which is food. So there are no malls that could be open. It's illegal to sell clothes, clothing items or anything else. And apparently it's because of some religious law that somehow is based on Judaism that on Sundays, it should not be a day of, you know, anything else. So you can't have a club.
Starting point is 03:25:59 None of that. in Bergen County, New Jersey. Likewise, when people do BS, they usually make an example out of them, throw the book at them, i.e. Charlie Wingate, who you guys know is Max B. Oh, you over here trying to rob people
Starting point is 03:26:16 or set people up to rob people and people die? You're going to jail for 99 years. Max B's sentence was 99 years initially because it went down in that particular region. They're really hard on crime, especially gun crime. Anyway, the guy who shot, well, TJ somehow he's out And he dropped the disc song
Starting point is 03:26:33 And I gotta give you out of warning here Like he included my initial video When I announced that TJ was shot And I really, I'm shocked how this guy is out Check this out though, okay Okay, so he puts up a song And he says, I see you And I guess he's
Starting point is 03:26:50 He put like a black marker on the eye So I don't know if that guy lost his eye I guess I don't know Now allegedly Little T.J. shot the dude back. This is kind of this is like some Chicago shit. The guy shot you.
Starting point is 03:27:11 You shot him. He loses his eye. The guy comes, gets locked up, gets out of jail, puts on some shades. And he's rapping about shooting you and you're over here saying, yo, I always got a gun on me. That's why I shot you in your eye.
Starting point is 03:27:25 And I don't know. This is, I got a, hip-hop police is, having a really good time like looking at this right here this looks crazy i don't know so i guess he lost his eye the guy's guy is a i'm not trying like necessarily promo this dude or whatever i wouldn't even bring up it i want to look on his instagram to see if i want to look on his instagram to see if um he has any pictures without does he have any pictures with his eye this sounds crazy right yeah look like he's um you know look like he's um you know look like he's
Starting point is 03:28:20 All right. Wow. I don't know. His name is Cardinal Baby. I wonder who's Rose Royces are these? You ever watch the music video like, these niggas look mad rich. Why are they even doing crime?
Starting point is 03:28:48 Like, he looked mad rich in this video. A nigga in a Rose Royce. Got a Rose Royce here. A year is here. And a... Cullin in there. How's this nigga this rich? Got stars and a ceiling and shit.
Starting point is 03:29:20 Yeah, he don't need to be doing crime, but whatever. They said look at the cameraman BTK visuals What about him? Yeah, he might have to get the Charleston White Eye, you know Good thing for both guys is they're both alive Little T.J. Almost lost his life in a fuck Why do you use that 6-9 intro. All right. All righty, all right. Eat gets an award.
Starting point is 03:30:27 Oh, the street's been buzzing, man. Apparently a lot of people on earth are a lot of videos of Jay Z and Harvey Weinstein, and people are asking the questions. I know we can't ask questions about Jay, but people are intrigued, and I know we won't get any answers, but people want to know, what was the nature of the relationship
Starting point is 03:30:45 between Jay Z and Harvey Weinstein? There's a bunch of videos circulating social media today that include Jay Z with Harvey Weinstein, including one that kind of stuck out to a lot of people where Jay Z's asked a question, and Harvey Weinstein, like, you know, kind of cuts the interview off and kind of answers for Jay and people are saying, hmm, this is kind of a little bit odd.
Starting point is 03:31:06 Like, what really was there a relationship? Watch his video. In your thoughts on Donald Trump and what it means for Marce? Or no, what it means for mass incarceration? You know what? This is the labor of love for Jay and as a result. Look at Jay's face. Panicking.
Starting point is 03:31:23 He's my friend. We're here to talk about that. That's your friend. And nothing else. Then can I ask you about me? This is 2017. Mass incarceration. Do you think the movement is...
Starting point is 03:31:33 Never knew that Jay... We knew Harvey Weinstein like that. What Kendrick say? What moving flocks? Let me see. Jay used to be kicking with Diddy, Harvey Weinstein, R. Kelly.
Starting point is 03:31:58 Nah, that's coincidence. That's coincidence. Let's see. Can we see any videos? Oh, there's a video of them like sitting next to each other. He was really good friends with Warrington. How come somebody bring this up?
Starting point is 03:32:20 This is a tweet from 2020. Hmm. Interesting. Well, if anything like that is happening, one kid that happens to one kid, any place that can happen to any kid should be close. Me here's on Donald's Donald's done for what it means from our support. All right. That's kind of give handler vibes, but you never know. Maybe he's just a good friend.
Starting point is 03:32:41 Right? Maybe he's just a good friend. Hey. I'll know it. For those who were never at these freak-off parties, what were they like? See, this is the thing. Everything that I'm about to say to you is not my firsthand knowledge. It is my firsthand witness account experience.
Starting point is 03:33:22 I was a sex worker. I was a dominatrix before I got my record deal. That's how I know how the dark world and the sex world, and the entertainment world run hand in hand. That's why the movie Blanked Twice is so important. Nice blow. So he cravitz. The sex workers that I have worked with throughout the years and continue to work with,
Starting point is 03:33:51 even to this day, have worn hidden cameras. What? I have my own tapes. Hmm? I've seen what they do. The ritualistic behaviors, the drugging. Putting girls in the suitcases.
Starting point is 03:34:13 Dumping them in alleyways. It's horrifying. And it's all done under the protection of this is going to be paid off. There's another NDA. This is going to be. It's terrible. It seems to have been something that people, a lot of
Starting point is 03:34:38 people knew about, but people were simply too scared to talk about. Everyone knows. Everyone knows. And every person that's sitting there trying to act surprise knows very well. Knows well. The whole point of this, like Kat Williams said when he sat with Shay Shayshay earlier this year, the whole point of this is for them in a coordinated effort to pretend like none of it is real. for the public's perception.
Starting point is 03:35:09 Everyone knows what's going on, and it's been going on for years. It's been going on before Diddy. See, people keep looking at him like he's the Sputnik that came out of nowhere. This is someone who was designed to be what he is. We got to stop making ditties. And if we're going to do that,
Starting point is 03:35:31 then we got to go back. We got to go back to even further, the mentors of these people. Because Diddy was taught how to do what he does systematically and Clyde Davis has been his greatest teacher. Say what? You've seen Jay close to Harvey Weinstein. Nah, Jay wasn't cool to Harvey Weinstein? Right?
Starting point is 03:36:04 Him and Harvey Weinstein got... Harvey Weinstein has Jay Z's rights for television and movies. What? You knew that? No. Jay Z sold his life rights to Harvey Weinstein. So, I don't think Jay has been secretive about him being just the ultimate capitalist. It was just business.
Starting point is 03:36:33 Come on now. Think it's deeper than just money? Yeah, because he signed up for something that he can't get out. Old footage of Jayze and Weinstein. Maybe this was the only seat left. He had to sit next to the guy. You know what, Chad? I think I'm changing my tune.
Starting point is 03:36:58 I'm about to start defending Jay. Yeah, come on. This is coincidence. What the hell? Straight up, coincidence. It's been going. We've got to go back. We got to go back.
Starting point is 03:37:43 I don't know. Yeah, I think they're lying on Jay Z. This AI. This is a fake picture. That's a hard guy. Yeah. Now, we're going to go down the rabbit hole a little bit of this Epstein Files. Did y'all hear about the Bill Gates stuff?
Starting point is 03:38:39 We're going to get into the Billgate lore, and then we will get into the Trump lore. And for the people who say, oh, I get on, nago, we talk about anybody. What the fuck? What do I look like? The mother niggins with Jay? Anybody who up in that list we're talking about? I ain't say they did nothing, but we're going to talk about that. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 03:38:57 I don't know these things like that. Here we go. I don't want to pull up these things myself. So isn't there a good commentary that covered it? Oh, here we go. Bro, we need, we need some, we need some good, we need some good breakdown. So, so I do know with Epstein and Bill Gates, Bill Gates supposedly ask Epstein for STB medications because allegedly he caught an SDD from a Russian woman.
Starting point is 03:39:35 And if you don't know, he's married, and he felt he transmitted the disease to his woman or his wife. So he wanted to give her antibiotics, but without telling her, that he was fucking off on a side so he wanted to kind of like really drug his girl or drug his wife into taking antibiotics to get her cured up from whatever she may have contracted from him
Starting point is 03:39:55 because he was with prostitutes, okay? Here we go. Let me see, let me see, let me see, we see, we see. Do we have a good video on this shit? Like, what's up? Oh, so. Come on, man. No, no, we want a deep dive pause.
Starting point is 03:40:32 Epstein, Bill Gates. STD, straight up. Let's get to it. Truth or fate means. Vatican Bell, by the bit, board. Vedica, good evening. Nah, we're not about to listen to all that fast talking shit, man. Get out of here, nigga.
Starting point is 03:40:49 Get the fuck on out of there. Here we go. Maybe this is it? When you read these news articles with these details. Oh, that's built. Oh, that's his wife, Melinda Gates. Oh, shit. That nigg was a creepy nigger, man.
Starting point is 03:41:09 freaky boy okay here we go in the new epstein files that were just released there are allegations made against bill gates and he actually just responded to them today as well so i'm going to show you what his foundation responded and allegations alleging or the allegations state that bill gates actually requested antibiotics from geoffrey epstein because he was concerned bill gates was concerned that he had an SCD and he wanted to give the antibiotics discreetly to his wife, Melinda Gates, at the time. So this is a really long email. And it's actually Jeffrey Epstein. I'm going to go ahead and click one of the emails so I can show it to you guys.
Starting point is 03:41:55 Keep in mind, though, this email is Jeffrey Epstein. Fuck all that, man. Let me pull up myself, bro. Like, we got to break this shit down. And yes, we're going to do the same thing for Trump. Don't you worry. So for all the people who blow your IQ be protecting, who am I protected, man? you grow that man
Starting point is 03:42:11 Robby Starbuck Okay here we go Let's find this This document I did to do I got to search a tweet I guess
Starting point is 03:42:29 Epstein emails Jeffrey Sent STD's Russian hookers I'll find it and put it up here We're going to read
Starting point is 03:42:40 this bitch through facts Here we go All right So in the Epstein documents from the DOJ that they put out, they said, Jeffrey Epstein sent himself emails memorialized in a fight he had with Bill Gates. In it, he says Bill Gates caught SDDs from Russian hookers and asked
Starting point is 03:42:55 Jeffrey for antibiotics that Bill could secretly give to Melinda without her noticing. Now, it's important. It says, Jeffrey sent these emails to himself. So it looked like Jeffrey was basically, like, you know, kind of reminding himself, or maybe this was blackmail. He was just kind of like, let me save this in case feds ever come in. They're going to, when they go through it, too much shit, they're going to start to see powerful names and they're going to fall back off me. A lot of people think that's going to, that's the angle. So it says, Dear Bill, I can't believe you have chosen to disregard our friendship of over
Starting point is 03:43:27 the last six years. I am aware of that accidents happen. It is how each of us has chosen to deal with this unfortunate event that has me dismayed beyond comprehension. You have decided to discharge me from my job, had Larry, your personal PR person, tell me that I'm engaged in morally inappropriate behavior. I asked me to be a major actor in a cover-up so that you can maintain the reputation
Starting point is 03:43:49 you have worked so hard to achieve. Asked me to recommit to a confidentiality agreement and categorically told me that we cannot have not, we cannot have any direct ongoing business relationship in a total disregard for its impact of public perception of my reputation. I will have to diligently avoid the truth, tell people that Bill will not invest with me,
Starting point is 03:44:12 and craft an answer that suits your needs, but you did not agree to send your letter of recommendation should a future employer ask for one. You should have told me that Melinda insists on me not communicating with you anymore unless Larry is copied or present, though you have consistently maintained that I could not have done a better job
Starting point is 03:44:32 and I was underpaid compared to my contributions. You then beyond that I could have not done a better job and that I was underpaid for my... I'll cook up my bad. You then beyond all sense of fairness and frankly, decency said that as a generous compensation for keeping the Gates' reputation intact, you would let me keep what we agreed, which is what I was already owe, which is the investment pieces, and give me two years severance. Similar to Christine Turner, now the casualty of the shoe was on the other foot, and I would have said,
Starting point is 03:45:01 Boris, this is not your fault. I confessed to Melinda, you didn't. It was in a moment of weakness, and I will do anything in my power to make it right for you. I have more money than anyone needs, and I assure that I will structure something that you will not be penalized for my error. Lucky for me, I have enough money to provide to you, though it will not heal the injury.
Starting point is 03:45:22 It will make you secure in your future. In addition, I will bend over backwards to make sure your career is rewarded an upswing. I appreciate the fact that drastically, wait, why does this sound like, I just sound like that half of this is like Bill. What?
Starting point is 03:45:48 This eventually passed in that regard. I suggest I buy the house that you have your heart set on and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- whatever. To that insult to injury, you that implore me to please delete emails regarding your STD. Oh, here it is. Your STD.
Starting point is 03:46:04 Also, this is all Epstein then. Never mind. I thought it was Bill. I thought it was Bill. I thought it changed to Bill's voice because why would Epstein be telling Bill I have more money than anyone could think. I would imagine Bill would be saying, niggum, I'm the richest man in the world. You're broke to me, okay? It's a your request that I provide you antibiotics
Starting point is 03:46:21 that you surreptitiously give to Melinda in the description of your penis. You also made it clear to me that I am not to refer to so-and-so as that's another topic that must be retained between the two of us. In return for all of these requests, which I have done without a second thought,
Starting point is 03:46:37 I am not to attend meetings with Melinda. I should not continue to provide the same level of service and dedication that I've done diligently and you are ready to discard our friendship. Okay. I've decided to resign my position, infected immediately with BG3 and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. I have not come to decide. There's another email. Quickly and I have the greatest respect for my friend of whatever, whatever, da-da-da, I feel like whatever from helping build to get drugs in order to deal with consequences of sex with Russian girls to facilitate as illicit tress.
Starting point is 03:47:06 Ooh, illicit tris with married women to be asked. to provide Adderall for bridge tournaments as I am a medical doctor, but have no prescription writing ability. Okay, chat, let's call it a spade of spade. So the rumors are true. Like, just reading this, having a brain, he didn't send this email to himself as like a draft. He sent this email to himself as in blackmail.
Starting point is 03:47:32 Like, it's clear. Like, he's spelling out crimes. Like, imagine if you and a nigga robbed somebody, right? If he calls you on the phone and be like, yo bro man yeah um you remember when like you came up with the idea to rob the nigger and then i went and got the gun and then we went there and then like you drove and then we said it was that house and you said it wasn't this like the way a nigga talking you're gonna be like yo bro you you're tapped like like bro bro the fans listen you know what i mean at that point you'd be like sir i think you got
Starting point is 03:47:59 the wrong number please don't call back here i have nothing that you may need and i don't know you have a nice day that's what you would say right these emails clearly he was trying to put out there that hey you're cutting me off but let me point out all the illicit things that i've done for you which include help drugging your wife allowed you to have all these threesomes or trists or like you know extra marital um affairs that i was covering up for you i have done a lot of things that you are really kind of obligated to me and this really tells me if you ask me, bro, he's writing this
Starting point is 03:48:38 because he feels the police is in his shit. And maybe he knew that they were going to get subpoenas for his stuff and he wanted to scare the feds to say, hey, if you lock me up, you got to go get them too. Honestly, this is what it reads like to me. Jeffrey Epstein is damn near writing a letter, quote, unquote, but he sends it to himself
Starting point is 03:49:04 it's more like a diary entry with a confession. Why would he do that? It seems like, and you have to imagine after a while, he knows the police that have been watching him or surveilling him. He seems like he'd like to drag other people into his mess that if they started investigating him or try to arrest him for some sex shit, he then says, okay, well, you know my lawyer is going to say, how come I'm arrested but not Bill Gates, right?
Starting point is 03:49:33 You know that we're going to try If I go down, everybody go down, so to speak, right? That's very, it's clear to me. It's clear to me. But let me go back to this dude. Because he was in thought. I'm not a...
Starting point is 03:49:48 I cannot believe that you'd have decided to destroy. You know, effective immediately. Okay, he just don't read. Jeffrey Epstein sending this stuff to himself. When you read this, it kind of makes you think, you know, did Jeffrey Epsi know his emails were eventually going to be leaked or spied on or used as evidence?
Starting point is 03:50:11 If he's just sending it to himself, is it because he just wanted to draft it? Because usually when you draft things, you just, you know, you type them and they go into your drafts. You don't need to send your draft message to yourself. You could just have it saved in your drafts. So when he sends it to himself, to me, I find that odd. Why is he just send it? Why not just leave it in his drafts if he just wants to write it out? You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:50:32 But no, he decided to. to just go ahead and send it to himself. And it makes me think, did he kind of expect that at one point in the near future or in the far future his email? Yeah, yeah. I really do think so. This has spilled over where Melinda Gates was actually questioned about some of these claims. And this is what she said today.
Starting point is 03:50:54 Russian girls contracting an STD and was also writing emails about how to secretly drug his ex-wife with medication. so he could get away with it. Bill Gates denies all of this, but his ex-wife, Melinda Gates, has broken her silence, and she wants answers about the allegations. This is what she had to say in a podcast with NPR. Emails in the files suggest that Bill Gates had additional affairs
Starting point is 03:51:21 and that he tried to get medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection and that he was going to give you the medicine without you knowing. his representative has said all of this is false. It is not on you to have to respond to the details of that alleged behavior, but I wonder what your dominant emotion is when you read these news articles with these details. Sad. Just unbelievable sadness. Unbelievable sadness, right? And again, I'm able to take my own sadness,
Starting point is 03:51:59 and look at those young girls and say, my God, how did they, how did that happen to those girls, right? And so for me, it's just sadness, sadness for, you know, I've left, I had to, I left my marriage, I had to leave my marriage, I wanted to leave my marriage, I had to leave the, I felt I needed to eventually leave the foundation. So it's just sad. Wow.
Starting point is 03:52:23 Melinda Gates goes on to say that this reminds her of a very painful time in her marriage, that no girl should have ever been put in the situation that they were put in by Epstein and whatever else may have been going on with all of the people around him. And she wants those people, including her ex-husband, the savior of health, to start answering questions. And ultimately for there to be justice for the alleged victims in all of this, because this is beyond heartbreaking. Although millions of documents have been made public recently,
Starting point is 03:52:58 These are only half of the files. Millions of documents are still... I have to acknowledge the elephant in the room at this moment. Your ex-husband, Bill, is named in the newest tranche of... Didn't Bill Gates give her like mad bread? Bill Gates... Divorce Settlement with Melinda Gates. What?
Starting point is 03:53:28 $8 billion? Oh, man. I am going to... cap with you, bro. Man, I only gave you a little chlamydia and I gave you 8 milly. You better hold that. You better, man.
Starting point is 03:53:40 You better stop playing, man. You better, man. I only gave a little syphilic. You better hold that shit, nigga. Man, unless I get you that, unless I gave you that HIV, you better hold that shit, man. You better take them antibiotics and be good,
Starting point is 03:53:57 nigga, what the fuck? What? What? Reports indicate a massive multi-year transfer of acid 13 billion dollars you better hold that shit man listen I ain't cold side I'm just saying like come on now
Starting point is 03:54:10 like yo all you gotta do bro I'm not saying you gotta be happy with me but don't be on no interviews running your mouth yo this yo what you look like Samaya like what the fuck like you should the hell you old as hell man no I know I know Bill is like
Starting point is 03:54:23 yo I get this bitch $8 billion or $12 billion man and she airing me out on some TikTok story time like what's popping bro like you know what's the vibes Like, yo, she over here airing me out like she, Britney Renner or something. Like, it was good. Yo! Yo, you know, like, come on.
Starting point is 03:54:41 Of Epstein. Tom, my God, speak your truth. Yo, Shawdy, you had all these years to speak. Yo, this is the worst part about it. You know, this is why nothing beats the woman scoring. She going to act like she never knew. What? You was doing what?
Starting point is 03:54:56 Oh, that's why I was alone in bed at nights. He never came home. He came home. smelling like Chuckie cheese. He came home and one time I found a Power Ranger panty in his pocket. Oh my God. He was really, he really was with Jeff. Come on, stop the cat.
Starting point is 03:55:13 You know what your man was doing, bro. Stop the cow. Files. And there are a new alleged details about his past behavior. And I want to give you the opportunity to respond in whatever way you want to. Well, let me say this. I think we're having a real. reckoning as a society, right?
Starting point is 03:55:43 No girl, no girl should ever be put in the situation that they were put in by Epstein and whatever was going on with all of the various people around him. No girl. I mean, it's just, it's beyond heartbreaking, right? I remember being those ages, those girls were. I remember my daughter's being those age. ages, right? So for me, it's personally hard whenever those details come up, right? Because brings back memories of some very, very painful times in my marriage, but I have moved on
Starting point is 03:56:22 from that. I purposely pushed it away and I moved on. I'm in a really unexpected, beautiful place in my life. So whatever questions remain there of what I don't, can't even begin to know all of it. Those questions are for those people and for even my ex-husband. They need to answer to those things, not me. And I am so happy to be away from all the muck that it was there. I have to put more words to the muck for context for our listeners. The emails in the files suggest that Bill Gates had additional affairs and that he tried to get medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection. Yeah, hold on. Hey, say, you know, you, you're, you, you're, you, you're ever seen some headline and be like, man, something's up here.
Starting point is 03:57:11 Let me tell you this. Back in the day, I remember I was in college and something. He said, Melinda Gates, it came out that she planned to give away like all of her wealth. And I'm like, rich people planning to give away all their wealth or half or whatever. I'm like, yo, that's blood money right there. That's child exploitation money right there. They can't live with themselves. That's what it is.
Starting point is 03:57:35 Right, these rich motherfuckers ain't trying to give nobody shit. Melinda Gates plans to donate half wealth. And it was half the money Bill Clinton. No, not Bill Clinton.
Starting point is 03:57:48 Bill Gates was, look. Look, I got to, look. It's a long time ago, bro. It's like in 2010, it's a, uh, let's see. 2010. In 2010,
Starting point is 03:58:07 Melinda Gates, along with Bill Gates founded this a challenge to billionaires to give half their wealth to philanthropy. All right, nigga. That's what I knew
Starting point is 03:58:16 them niggas was doing some sacrifices. I'm like, all right, man. That blood money's not no good for them, man. They try to get their spirit right, gang. They try and get their spirit right, gang.
Starting point is 03:58:25 They try to get their spirit right. They did all the fuck-up shit to make billions of dollars and now they're like, oh, I want to give it all away. Their spirit not right. Like everything has been aligned in this fucking.
Starting point is 03:58:38 them up. They can't live with themselves. They can't live with looking in the mirror after what they did. The emails in the files suggest that Bill Gates had additional affairs and that he tried to get medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection and that he was going to give you the medicine without you knowing. His representative has said all of this is false. It is not on you to have to respond to the details of that alleged behavior. But I, I, I, I, I wonder what your dominant emotion is when you read these news articles with these details. Sad. Just unbelievable sadness.
Starting point is 03:59:21 Unbelievable sadness, right? And again, I'm able to take my own sadness and look at those young girls and say, my God, how did that happen to those girls, right? And so for me, it's just sadness. sadness for, you know, I've left, I had to, I left my marriage. I had to leave my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage. I had to leave the, I felt I needed to eventually leave the foundation. So it's just sad.
Starting point is 03:59:53 What did you know, though? I bet. Anyway, Bill, Gates spoke, and he spoke out today. Check this out, yeah. Welcome to Australia. Thank you for sitting down with this. I'd like to start with your legacy. A lot of people will start a foundation or a charity with the idea of creating it, naming it,
Starting point is 04:00:11 and letting it live on forever and help people forever. You're doing... Man, fuck all that, man. What's up with it? The U.S. was by far, but at least right now. Somebody's F's a shit. The 48 hours. But I'll say again, I was foolish to spend time with him.
Starting point is 04:00:27 I was one of many people who regret knowing him. Oh, no, you're talking about it. In 2011, philanthropists can take a risk to find a scientist or, you know, get it out. And that philanthropy is sometimes most. more agile. So it plays a complementary role to government funding. Part of that issue of trust brings me to Jeffrey Epstein. I want to know what your relationship with him was. Yeah, I met Jeffrey in 2011, so over a period of three years. I had a number of dinners with him. The focus was always he knew a lot of very rich people, and he was saying he could get them to give money to global
Starting point is 04:01:10 health. You know, in retrospect, that was a dead end, and I've said many times, but I'll say again, I was foolish to spend time with him. I was one of many people who regret ever knowing him. You've no doubt seen the allegations, including some of them from the last 24 to 48 hours. Are they true? No, the, apparently Jeffrey wrote an email to himself. That email was never sent. The email is false. So I don't know what his thinking was there. You know, was he trying to attack me in some way? But, you know, it just reminds me, you know, every minute I spent with him,
Starting point is 04:01:51 I regret and I, you know, apologize that I did that. The problem is some of the things that he has sent and some of the information about other people that has come up in those files has been true. Why would he do this and say this about you, do you think? You know, it's factually true that I was only at dinners. You know, I never went to the island. I never met any women.
Starting point is 04:02:13 And so, you know, the moral that comes out, the more clear it will be that, although the time was a mistake, it had nothing to do with that kind of behavior. Is it frustrating to you, given what you've said, that this is now happening? Not really. I mean, people should, you know, hold people who are successful to a very high degree. bar. And so, you know, as these documents come out, they're going to be closely scrutinized. Some of your work here in Australia has involved institutions like Doity. Part of our contribution, be it to some of the viruses that have been ended, MRNA vaccines, has been in research. What can Australia do that other countries can't?
Starting point is 04:02:58 I know you're just for the subject later. Well, Australia has some fantastic... I know he didn't just switch the subject later. What? Lanceby, his son, with him, I regret and I, you know, apologize that I did that. So he's saying his cap. The problem is some of the things that he has sent
Starting point is 04:03:19 and some of the information about other people that has come up in those files has been true. Why would he do this and say this about you, do you think? You know, it's factually true that I was only at dinners. You know, I never went to the island. I never met any winter. And so, you know, the more that comes out, the more clear it'll be that, although the time was a mistake, it had nothing to do with that kind of behavior. Is it frustrating to you, given what you've said, that this is now happening?
Starting point is 04:03:51 Not really. I mean, people should, you know, hold people who are successful to a very high bar. And so, you know, as these documents come out, they're going to be closely scrutinized. Some of your work here in Australia has involved institutions like Doity. Part of that. Yeah. I don't know what to even make of that, though. Because I really think that I think those emails or that particular email is a email that is meant to blackmail or kind of like, is for his own survival. He's putting other people's name in it basically saying we're partners in crime.
Starting point is 04:04:34 It's like It's like basically taking notes It's like taking notes While you're playing in the robbery Like you ever seen this Like there's a scene in the wire Where it's like your nigga Are you taking fucking notes on a fucking conspiracy?
Starting point is 04:04:57 Look, nigga is you taking notes On a criminal fucking conspiracy? That's exactly what it is That's exactly what it is Yo, Epstein was fucking, like, writing a journal for sex trafficking. Like, I don't think he's that dumb. If you watch that interview, he doesn't seem that dumb. He don't seem that dumb.
Starting point is 04:05:22 What are you thinking, man? Nicky, is you taking notes on a criminal fucking conspiracy? What fuck is you thinking, man? Hilarious. Did y'all see this? I got to show you out this, too. Let me open you. I have this in my thingy.
Starting point is 04:05:52 History, hold on, I'm gonna show ya. Give me a second, give me a second, a second. Where is it? Is it that? No, no, no, no, no, no. It's about like how he made his money and like how sketchy it is. I got to search it. Made his money. It's like really odd, like there's really no, um, like if you watch any of these on how he made his money, oh, I think this is it.
Starting point is 04:07:00 I think this is it. Around half of his wealth was moving other people's money around in creative ways. But even that... But anyway, back to it. The team and I have been doing a bit of digging. Two days before his completely unsuspicious death, the alleged financier Jeffrey Epstein, signed an updated last will and testament,
Starting point is 04:07:19 which roughly detailed assets worth an estimated $57 million. Damn. What has remained unclear in the almost six years since, though, is how he actually made all of this money. Before becoming the centerpiece of an ongoing international scandal, Epstein was most publicly described as a high-profile finance guy that made his money by moving other people's money around in creative ways. But even that broad definition still raises some questions.
Starting point is 04:07:46 He was supposedly charging tens of millions of dollars in fees for tax advice even though he was not a tax lawyer or a CPA, hundreds of millions for wealth management, even though he never had a Series 7 or a CFA, and charged massive sums as a consultant despite not even having a college degree. Now, the financial industry was certainly a lot less competitive back then. But even in the 1980s, ultra wealthy individuals still weren't giving away money like this for nothing in return. With very little in the way of verifiable achievements, staff or actual operations, it's unclear how valuable these services really could be, which ultimately raises the obvious question. Was Epstein a successful financier with a completely separate side
Starting point is 04:08:26 hobby in dittling? Or was he a full-time dittler using financial services? as a cover to bankroll and launder the proceeds of his crimes. In either case, the obvious course of action would be to follow the money trail, right? Well, there are actually a few big groups of varying levels of competency who are all trying, but this is easier said than done. A complex web of jurisdictions, shell corporations, alongside confidential client and banking secrecy laws, make a paper trail hard to pin together, and that is clearly by design. Nobody's investment accounts should need a multi-jurisdictional flowchart to piece together
Starting point is 04:09:00 unless they have something to hide, right? Even without the benefit of hindsight, the whole thing does seem incredibly unusual. The only problem is that for a lot of high net worth and high profile individuals, the only thing I'm normal about all of this is just how normal it really is. Tonight, the Justice Department is scrambling
Starting point is 04:09:19 to review roughly 5.2 million documents. I expect that we're going to release more documents. The word is redaction. A lot of page. Boyle made a similar video about five months. He still somehow, landed a job at Bear Stearns. Because the rapper formerly known as Lil Boyle is always worth a watch,
Starting point is 04:09:36 and it seems like his videos have been quietly censored, which means he is talking about the important stuff. Epstein's first job in finance was given to him after he was fired from the Dalton School in 1976 for poor performance. Again, working as a teacher without a college degree. After this, we're going to look at Trump mentions. He still somehow landed a job at Bear Stearns working as a glorified coffee getter for one of the firm's floor traders.
Starting point is 04:10:00 These were the people that actually executed financial transactions back in the day, before electronic trading took over by shouting at one another in colorful outfits. By all accounts, he learned the ins and outs of the industry incredibly quickly and became particularly good at schmoozing the firm's wealthiest clients as he handled their complex financial affairs. By 1980, he had worked his way up to a limited partner at the firm and even scored himself an entry as the Bachelor of the Month in the Cosmopolitan magazine with an entry that read, Jeffrey Epstein, 27, talks only to people who make over a million dollars a year. If you're a cute Texas girl, write this New York Dynamo, which is just so gross in so many ways.
Starting point is 04:10:34 Although, to be fair, in the same year, they also awarded that title to Prince Andrew and O.J. Simpson. Sometimes you just cannot make this shit up. But anyway, for those of you keeping track, this meant that in just four years, Epstein had worked his way up from a junior assistant all the way to a limited partner at what was one of the most notorious firms on Wall Street. For a lot of young finance grads with Ivy League degrees doing their four summer internship, this is the most unbelievable part of the story. How was someone without any formal qualifications getting ahead so quickly? Well, this is partially because finance back then was a lot less competitive than it is today. But it was also far more relationship focused. Someone who could show clients a good night on the town could bring in more value to the firm than some PhD quantitative analyst.
Starting point is 04:11:11 Since then, regulatory, cultural, and technological changes as well as just the overall size of the financial industry, means that the latter is both higher and there is a lot more technical work to be done on those lower ladders. But back then, whining and dining powerful and wealthy people was part of the job, and it was a skill that Epstein clearly employed later in his career. as well. Even still, just from the financial side, at this time, Epstein was receiving a total compensation of $200,000 a year. Okay, I want to fast track this a little bit. He basically, they can't find how he got his money, bro. He also had a fake passport, and when Florida Attorney General Alexander Acosta was questioned about his later criminal case, he stated on record
Starting point is 04:11:45 that I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone, and that Epstein was above his pay grade. You could see why the tinfoil hat really doesn't need to be too tight for all of this to raise a lot of questions. However, just from the business perspective, this kind of work had the potential to be highly lucrative, while also giving him an extensive contact list of high-profile people and experience with legal and financial systems in different countries and jurisdictions. He ran this operation for six years in total before being hired by Stephen Hoffenberg to work at Tower's Financial Corporation, a collection agency that would buy up debt from things like medical debt off hospitals for cheap and try to get people $50 million of
Starting point is 04:12:15 its investors money. At the time, this was the biggest punt. This week's video is sponsored to do it. Secrecy laws, one of the biggest insights actually came from a completely different set of files that were released several years earlier. The Paradise Papers were a series of leaked documents from the offshore law firm Appleby that handled corporate registries through Aruba, the Cook Islands, the Bahamas, Barbatos, Malta, Nevis, and Samoa. So, you know, a pretty comprehensive list of the most reputable places to do business. Anyway, one of those leaked documents involved an offshore hedge fund founded in the year 2000,
Starting point is 04:12:43 liquid funding, which was registered in Bermuda. According to information pieced together by the International Consortium of Investigative journalists, the group that published these millions of leaked documents, the chairman of this operation was none other than a Mr. Jeffrey Epstein. Now, we don't actually know who the investors were in this firm because even with these leaks, the offshore entity was in turn owned by a holding company in Delaware under the same name, and that information remained sealed. There was one exception, though.
Starting point is 04:13:04 By using the Wayback Machine, in a 2002 annual report to stockholders, Beers Stearns disclosed that they had taken an approximately 40% stake in the holding company that in turn owned the offshore Bermuda registered firm. In that same disclosure, they noted that Liquid Funding itself had approximately $900 million in assets, and what those assets were was primarily repurchase agreements on swap. Okay. The relationship did seem unusually close. Over the course of 15 years, Wexner paid Epstein
Starting point is 04:13:25 and reported $200 million in fees for tax, estate, and asset management advice. Now, given Epstein's lack of credentials and spotty financial track record, a lot of people have pointed to this amount of money as being highly suspect. So Victoria's Secret's leader, Lex Wexner, was just paying this guy $200 million to give him advice? Show. And I'm over here taxing a little baby 30K just to shut up. Not plain like that.
Starting point is 04:13:50 Financial services for people worth billions of dollars can and... a joke. Often do cost this much. Before an average of almost $20 million a year, Wexner could have built his own family office to handle his financial affairs and investment in house. Beyond the sheer amount of money that Wexner was paying Epstein, their professional relationship did seem to extend beyond a simple client agent. Epstein's famous house in New York was actually officially owned by Wexner for more than a decade while Epstein was living in it. Wexner would reportedly come and go since it was his property after all. But yet the inscribed letters on the door read J.E. Additionally, and allegedly, Epstein used his relationship with Wexner to present himself as a talent scheme.
Starting point is 04:14:22 out for Victoria's Secret, which aided with his criminal activities. These allegations brought attention to the culture at Victoria's Secret, who settled with shareholders two years later for a reported $90 million for a breach of their fiduciary duty in creating a hostile culture. The second publicly known client that Epstein retained as a major source of revenue was Leon Black, the multi-billionaire co-founder and former CEO of Apollo Capital Management, one of the largest private equity firm. Okay, so the people who funded Jeffrey Epstein, here's a company, Victoria's Secret, Abercrombie
Starting point is 04:14:47 and Fitch and some Apollo company. firms in the world. An interesting but totally irrelevant little connection is that Apollo Capital Management shares the same New York office building with another private equity firm, Sycamore Partners. Sycamore Partners acquired the holding company The Limited in 2017, which is the parent company of Victoria's Secret. This means absolutely nothing. But it is a warning that when you start looking at financial documents for two months straight,
Starting point is 04:15:08 you do mean that on all of these fees, he was paying an effective tax rate of just 4%. Less than a tenth of what he would be paying if he was similarly set up in New York. Now Les Wexner and Leon Black were by far his largest known client. Despite some early reports, new information has revealed that they weren't his only clients. In total, his firm received an additional $118 million in traceable fees from individuals like Elizabeth Johnson of the Johnson & Johnson Family Fortune and the hedge fund hype. Johnson and Johnson Bridge Capital. A report by Forbes pieced all of these together and found that in total, as far as we know,
Starting point is 04:15:36 Epstein's firm brought in over $488 million in fees for questionable financial services. If we were just tracking the source of his wealth, these payments as suspicious as they were, combined with some modest investment returns should pretty much explain it, right? Well, not quite. According to the very will and testament that outlets are basing his estimated net worth off of, only around half of his wealth was actually invested in cash flow generating assets. And this also isn't accounting for the fact that several of his major investments completely imploded taking out a major share of his fortune with it.
Starting point is 04:16:02 He did have some successful private investments, such as Carbine, a communications technology company that he was an early investor in alongside other luminaries like Peter Dunded for Variable, which is that his lifestyle was obviously deplorable, but it was also not cheap. Frequent private jet travel, property taxes, and upkeep on hundreds of millions of dollars worth of real estate and personal expenditures all amounted to several million dollars a year on the low end. On top of this is one of his biggest personal expenses of all, which was lawyers. According to court records, Epstein engaged with more than 75 lawyers over the course of his life, including major names like Alan Dershowitz, who charged several thousand dollars an hour for his services.
Starting point is 04:16:32 Adding it all up, it is possible that over the roughly 30 years he was in business for himself, he could have very easily spent as much money as was coming in through these traceable revenue sources, which means to amass this wealth, he was either getting investment returns from somewhere that hasn't been revealed yet, or he had other sources of revenue. This sounds bad, but it potentially gets worse. Now, this part is verging on potentially conspiratorial, but so far in this video we've been working off the same number that most news outlets have been working off of. The $577 million detailed in his will.
Starting point is 04:16:57 But that was written while he was in prison, and it was done two days before his death. It is possible that someone who was comfortable carrying a fake passport and slipping in and out of international deals kept some assets outside of the typical financial system in the event that he had the opportunity to make a run for it. Now, back to what we know, the Senate Finance Committee has reported that Epstein's company accounts held with several major Western banks had over $1.9 billion worth of direct transactions flowing between them, well above the $488 million in fees that have already been well documented. These transactions also link the currently sanctioned Russian banks putting further question
Starting point is 04:17:26 marks over who Epstein's clients were and what they were really paying for. Unfortunately, until further details are released and or more pressure is put on these banks to hand over information, that is all we do know for now. Offshore financial dealings are already hard to track, so they... Damn. Okay. Let's now look at what they said Trump was up in. they're doing Trump Epstein files okay should we uh you all watch Philip DeFrancoe hey welcome back to the Philip DeFranco show you daily dot all now available street journal analysis several women's full names appeared more than a hundred okay let's get to see and persistence of
Starting point is 04:18:06 of the failures that occur in the identities of men who abused young women with the help of Epstein is the public to learn about let's get to Trump honestly men identities is 43 year old border patrol agent Jesus Sochoa who goes by Jesse and 35 year old old custom. It is a world where Democrats and Republicans, they come to an agreement and they go, okay, these are the concessions we're going to do. You would then also have to count on Donald Trump to go.
Starting point is 04:18:27 All right, bro, you're doing too much chatting, bro. I just want to figure out like a qualitative thing about Trump in the Epstein files. Let's go. Maybe this works. Dited Vaughn Lemon and arrested him. But they say that Bill Gates destroyed his marriage by giving wife and STD's number of allegations against Donald Trump. Bill Gates is paying.
Starting point is 04:18:57 Jeffrey Epstein. This is Jeffrey Epstein's desk and you can see a dollar here signed by Bill Gates. I was wrong. Was that a wager that he wouldn't get an SCD? I don't know, man. I don't know. It's not up to me. We're just trying to interpret them as quickly as we can and to give you all of the important information out of this massive drop of files. See ladies and gentlemen, obviously This is creating quite a few headlines already. Today, we are looking now further at the DOJ's files, and you can see pages like this one that include an enormous number of allegations against Donald Trump. Very lurid child exploitation allegations.
Starting point is 04:19:41 I hate to pause this, but I see a guy who he was on Flagrant 2. Epstein files all major Trump accusations. Hopefully they can dispel it. I've seen this guy talk about it before. He's always been on the ball. If this not good, we go back to the other one. For the people who think I'm, and I'm like, yo, you're protected.
Starting point is 04:20:01 No, I'm not. Okay, here we go. We put a lot of work behind the scenes into this. I do want to just say, for everybody, for our general YouTube audience, we're going to be breaking this up into multiple clips. However, we really do recommend listening to this completely in full. For that, you do need to be a premium subscriber.
Starting point is 04:20:17 So breaking points.com. All right, bro. Last 48. to find the most news. You're listening to this in a podcast, share. Okay, let's get to it, right.
Starting point is 04:20:32 Here's what he had to say on board Air Force One. Well, they should be because it looked like this guy, Wolf, was a writer, was conspiring with Epstein to do harm to me, and I didn't see it myself,
Starting point is 04:20:42 but I was solved by some very important people that not only does it absolve me, it's the opposite of what people were hoping, you know, the radical level, that Wolf was a third-grade writer, was conspiring with Jeffrey Epstein to hurt me, politically or otherwise,
Starting point is 04:20:56 And that came through loud into there. So we'll probably sue Wolf. So according to Trump, the Epstein files absolves him. Maybe the Epstein estate, I guess. I don't know. We're going to certainly sue him. You may. I guess so, because he was conspiring with Wolf to do harm to be politically.
Starting point is 04:21:16 That's not a threat. Trump talking there about how it doesn't implicate him. However, there were some bad things there for Donald Trump here in the files. Let's go and put the first one up here on the screen. This one got quite a bit of attention. I'm going to count all of these as responsibly as I can. So here it says, FBI report citing a confidential human source released in the final batch of the Epstein files claims Trump has been compromised by Israel. I will know.
Starting point is 04:21:34 Okay. So this is kind of like the same thing as Jay-Z. And, you know, we should note we should treat everything the same. So if we thought that Jay-Z thing was serious, this we should think this is serious too. You know what I mean? Like, I like keeping everything the same. You know what I mean? If we go to the next one, guys, please is that one of these sources, Chuck Johnson is a controversial figure.
Starting point is 04:21:54 However, and he's previously been one who has been involved with these types of things. I will say. I've known Chuck for many years, and he does actually have quite a bit of connections. However, he's kind of an eccentric character, so you could take that of what you will for his own reputation. You can Google some of the other legal problems that he has right now. I do think it is important, though, to note and to flag some of this stuff, which is in the files. And I do also want to give an extraordinary amount of credit here, Crystal, to Rocana, and to Thomas Massey, who are the ones who are solely responsible for being able to get this information out. Because what we have learned here now so far is the full vast amount of this conspiracy,
Starting point is 04:22:23 the extent to which it touches not only Donald Trump, but literally the entire global elite, which is why we have to spend probably more than two hours today breaking all of it down. But with Donald Trump himself, this is one of the more extraordinary ones about being compromised, let's say, by Israel. Again, it is an allegation made by Chuck Johnson
Starting point is 04:22:37 to be very, very clear. However, you know, when we look in the totality of all of the other things here with Jeffrey Epstein and with... Okay, so let's pause this. Do you care if Donald Trump is or not compromised by Israel? I'm just asking the question. I'm just asking, right?
Starting point is 04:22:56 If people are, if people have the, um, the rage about Jewish people, I guess you'll care. I'm looking for, was he fucking kids, okay? I don't go fuck what's going on to Israel,
Starting point is 04:23:08 bro. I only care is he fucking kids. They say every politician is, is compromised by Israel, in my opinion. So whether he is or not, I'm not saying it's irrelevant, but when I hear Epstein files,
Starting point is 04:23:21 I don't want to hear about no Israel. I want to hear about what about them kids though So you know We could kind of keep that in mind Like maybe there's some Israel stuff We could look up later But I want to hear was he fucking the kids You know
Starting point is 04:23:36 So called compromise I do think it's important While I don't necessarily you don't believe This particular one The extent to which Epstein Clearly was using his vast rate Of influence power etc On behalf of multiple different foreign states
Starting point is 04:23:46 Governments And clearly you know This verifies everything that we've laid out From the beginning It is an open genuine question You know his relationship Not just with Trump but with all the people around and with all the people in power.
Starting point is 04:23:54 And I just think it's important to flag that from the very beginning of what the story says. I think starting here at the top, first of all, it's important to remember how we got here. Your right to credit, Kana Massey. Also, shout on to Lauren Bobert and Nancy Mace, who was under tremendous amount of pressure to back off that discharge petition. They signed on to it. That's how the files. Bro, we don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 04:24:11 Tell us what it says in the files. You fucking... There are a bunch of failed redactions. And then there's a bunch of stuff that is... We don't care. What's in the files? When you think about just the subpoena... It was backed by Dershowitz's behavior.
Starting point is 04:24:20 Sheldon Aidelson was behind Dershowitz and Netanyahu. CHS thought it was odd that Dershowitz, who was always left-leaning, then changed to back Trump. CHS stated this did not surprise them since Dershowitz was always on the side of whatever the Israelis wanted, which included Trump. Sean Hannity was also backed by Sheldon. Aidlinson. CHS was on the phone to take notes whenever Epstein and Dershowitz spoke on the phone. He stated them Sade would always call after they got the phone off the phone with Epstein.
Starting point is 04:24:40 CHS also saw his bills coming, going for Dershowitz. Notice there were never any bills presented to Derswitz for Epstein or Maxwell, which CHS thought was odd. So that is the allegation that came from this particular source. Take that for what you will. Yeah, exactly. important to note again, you know, who the source was. Now, let's continue, though. There were all kinds of sketchy behavior when the immediate release put A4, let's say,
Starting point is 04:24:57 for example, up here on the screen, multiple allegations there about Donald Trump. Specifically, you can read some of these examples for yourself. The DOJ actually-all, I shut up, man. Sir, whatever, whatever host of the party with Jeffrey Epstein, Sammy Sosa and Trump. I imagine Sammy Sosa with a face full of powder. Was that, and at the door and at the party, the caller, okay, so this is a random caller to the FBI. Okay, bad. At the party, the caller met an individual who was approximately between 18 to 23 years of age,
Starting point is 04:25:26 who was brought in from Oklahoma for a modeling job, but then sold to a man in France. Sold. What the hell? Several women were being auctioned, so they said they were auctioned women. And women known as Colette L.N.U was a madame. A couple years later, caller saw Colette at the Cheetah Club in New York. She told what a Santos friend that Jamie Fox was interested in spending a night with her. and that he could pay her a lot of money.
Starting point is 04:25:53 Donald Trump, the president, had parties at Mar-a-Lago called Calendar Girls. So this is another caller now. So this is one caller or here's another caller? Donald Trump, the president, had parties at Mar-Lago called Calendar Girls. Jeffrey Epstein would bring the children in and Trump would auction them off. He measured the children's vulva and vaginas by entering a finger and raided the children on tightness. Pause. The guests were elder men included.
Starting point is 04:26:20 Elon Musk, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, Eric Trump, attorney Alan Dershowitz was there with attorney Bob Shapiro. We were taken in ruins forced to give oral sex to Donald Trump, forced to allow them to penetrate us. I was 13 when Donald Trump R-worded me. Gilae Maxwell was also present. That's caller number two. Killed the link to this before it was.
Starting point is 04:26:50 Well, I give Jay Z some credit. At least Jay Z only got one caller that called in about him. Trump got at least two. Okay. All right. So, hey, listen, we call a spade of spade over here, you feel me? Then taken down. Jay, you got to catch up, buddy.
Starting point is 04:27:03 You got to catch up. Trump got a couple of calls. They only calls about your ass one time. Of course, these were extraordinary. This was part of an unverified dossier, which complaints specifically made about Donald Trump that were collated by the Department of Justice. In some of these cases, for example, they said, you know, that this information was provided by somebody who had psychiatric. But nonetheless, we're going to go and put it up here. Let's put A5, for example.
Starting point is 04:27:24 Next, on the screen, this was another one. This was actually an interview with FBI agents. A survivor told agents that Galane Maxwell, quote, presented her to Donald Trump saying that she was available, not a tip. For example, this was an FBI 302 in an interview with agents. Okay, so this one's a little bit more credible. The first one is kind of like the Jay-Z one, but those might be credible, too. So we don't know.
Starting point is 04:27:43 Again, I want to show you this is what called being fair is. You feel what I'm saying? Like, it's not only with Jay. We don't know. We don't know it with nobody. If your name in this shit, we all know. Okay, we ain't swearing for nobody. You feel me?
Starting point is 04:27:56 Well, you fucking'em kids or not. We're going to keep it a bean. So this one has a little bit more, you know, potential for veracity here because the FBI interviews what they call a survivor, and this survivor is claiming that Galane Maxwell presented her to Donald Trump. And Galane said, yo, Trump, she's available. Okay? So this is an actual interview, not just a random.
Starting point is 04:28:20 call. It says so-and-so never dated Trump. Maxwell took so-and-so to a party in New York. Maxwell seemed very excited that there would be a lot of great men for so-and-so to me. So-and-so felt that Maxwell presented her and gave a rundown of so-and-so accolades similar to CV. Maxwell presented so-and-so to Trump and they had a conversation for approximately 20 minutes and was invited to Mar-a-Logg and was given a tour by Trump with Epstein and Maxwell present. Nothing happened between so-and-so and Trump, huh? By the things that Maxwell said, it was made clear that so-and-so was available. Maxwell said things like, oh, I think he likes you.
Starting point is 04:28:56 Aren't you lucky? This is great. There was an article that came out with so-and-so and Trump. So-and-so thought she was around 22 years old. So-and-so was given suggestions on what to wear. Maxwell says, oh, he'll like that. Oh, he doesn't like that. It was set up very much how Maxwell introduced so-and-so to Epstein.
Starting point is 04:29:15 Maxwell introduced so-and-so to so-and-so. There was definitely a pretext that this guy was for so-and-so, so-and-so, and so-and-so. Our friends, they dated much later, so-and-so described so-and-so as a good guy, so-and-so told so-and-so that's someone from the government that reached out to him. Okay, all right. All right. Well, there's no fuck in here, or allegations of fuck it. Let's go ahead and go to A6.
Starting point is 04:29:41 This was another one, quote, a witness swore under perjury that Trump had, quote, threatened a young girl. She could disappear and then Britain to kill her entire family. This was in the data set 9. Trump, my nigga, this sound like some Trump shit. Trump, the type to tell a motherfucker, I got get you clap, nigga, like straight up.
Starting point is 04:29:59 Like, yo, real talk, straight up. You feel me? Like, I can see Trump doing this. As a fact, Trump on some gangster shit. I can see. You know what I mean? Now, I don't know. Is he threatening her over sex? I don't know. Let's hear. Of the Epstein Files, this was another.
Starting point is 04:30:15 particular one from a Tiffany Doe. Again, these have not been verified. For example, they were submitted and they were a part of the official release. This would be more significant just because the penalty of perjury than like the anonymous tip lines stuff just in terms of how you think about it.
Starting point is 04:30:26 So we're just trying to couch everything. Just so everybody knows about, in particular, all of these weird. This is not a claim of, you know, that any of this has been proven. It has been, however, been released by the government. Let's go and put the next one up here on the screen. They're saying,
Starting point is 04:30:37 Epson, quote, Trump is likely to be asked questions soon about me. Supposedly said a girl that Donald had had sex with her at my house when she was underage. She said she has a witness. This was he asking, who was a Kathy Rumler, who, by the way, again, former White House. So Trump is likely to be asked questions soon about me. Supposedly a girl that Donal had sex with at her house was underage.
Starting point is 04:30:57 A lawyer under Barack Obama and now actually a senior banking official who herself. So this is Jeffrey Epstein saying it. Actually really be in trouble considering her entire relationship here with Epstein, but he's going back and forth asking questions specifically about how to handle that. Let's continue, shall we, A-9. Can we put that one? Because A9 was important to me, for example, because this was just just shows you like Trump's social life, for example, at the time, says, I simply cannot believe this victory. This is immediately after Trump's victory. No one called it. We all thought she'd win. This was two Jeffrey Epstein. You must be happy, though. I remember flying back with Donald on his plane the first weekend. I went to visit you in Florida. It was the weekend he met Melania. He kept coming out of the bedroom saying, wow, what a hot piece of ass. Nuts. Anyway, hope you're enjoying Saudi. Damn. that niggar that niggar Trump was running back to back pipe sessions with milania when he first met her
Starting point is 04:31:47 that's how you know you you found your wife or your girlfriend though well you find your girlfriend bro you give her the most rounds out of any chick bro facts holy that's the fact yeah okay all right right so this one ain't illegal this this is him find his wife so a lot going on there hope you're doing it saudi also talking about trump and apparently the relationship that you know these mutual friends of theirs had had there in the past milania now i want again we keep in the same energy chat we're not doing what these other niggies is doing the mere fact that Trump is in this shit is not a good look that's your man's that's your man's that's not a good look if you and epstein was on a two man that's not a good look we got to keep it a bean
Starting point is 04:32:32 if you and epstein was on a two man's it's not a good look I don't care if it's jZ like j well j and harvey wines he might have been on a two man's but If you would Harvey Weinstein or Epstein, matter of fact, any of the Steens, not a good look. Let's keep it a bean. We got to call a spade of spade. Trump looking crazy. Jay looking crazy. They all looking crazy.
Starting point is 04:32:55 If your name in the shit, you crazy, nigga, straight up. We got to call that spade of spade. We can't pick and choose, bro. We can't pick and choose. Ain't nobody else locked up but two people. Well, one dead. Jeffrey dead. And Galane locked up.
Starting point is 04:33:08 The rest of these motherfuckers free. Why are your name in this shit? What the fuck was you doing? Why your name is even in this shit? Jamie Fox, why are your name in this shit? This shit don't look good for you, Jamie. I fuck with you, but you're the shit don't look good, bro. Why are your name up in there?
Starting point is 04:33:20 Push you to you. This shit don't look good, bro. You're supposed to be selling Coke, nigga. You're not supposed to be doing all other extra curricular activities, bro? Why are you a name up for this files, bro? And I'm not saying that this shit is true, because they're basically saying, we don't know if it's true. Well, we just going to have to...
Starting point is 04:33:35 All right, I hope they investigate all of these things to figure it out if it's true. But I think we could say, if your name. was in this shit you was doing too much gang you on some other shit everybody j Donald trump pusher t Jamie Fox Eminem John niggis was doing too much straight up your name should not be in no shit like this keep it a beam also makes an appearance go to the next one shall we this shows you a dear g Chris stuck in this too come on man I knew after he did that second rush hour he got into some other shit
Starting point is 04:34:15 because I don't know whatever happened or whatever happened to Chris Tucker Chris Tucker did some shit How are you? Nice story about Je in New York Magazine This is the infamous what is it 2002 profile Where Trump said something along the lines of Is this Trump?
Starting point is 04:34:27 If I recall he was like Jeffrey He really enjoys his social life He likes him young something like that You look great on the picture I know you were very busy flying over the world How was Palm Beach? I cannot wait to go down Give me a call
Starting point is 04:34:38 This is Melania Skia went to suck some dick. Holy shit. Ah, Melania! No, no, or go back down. Oh, never mind. Bro, this is some freaky creepy shit. We don't know what's going on, man.
Starting point is 04:34:52 I'm thinking they're all on some, they're on that ditty time, man. If I'm saying, like, I don't know what's going on this. Paul, when you are back in New York. Have a great time. Love Melania. Who's the, this ain't the Trump files. It's the Epstein file.
Starting point is 04:35:04 She'd message Epstein? Melania, I hope he wasn't trying to throw that box to Jeffrey now. Yo, you know if Trump see this right now, your ass getting deported back to, where Milania from? Russia? Your ass going back to Russia. Word.
Starting point is 04:35:17 One of the dead homies. Your ass going back to Russia. I haven't even going to allow to you. Your ass is going back to Russia. If you was trying to cheat on my man, Donald J. Trump with Epstein, your ass is getting deported. Facts.
Starting point is 04:35:27 Ice, pick her up. It's over. Let's go. Get her out. I don't know. You see ICE rush in the White House. Yo, you know Trump rules this. You don't give a damn, bro.
Starting point is 04:35:38 Who's G, though? This can't be her message in Jefferson. Jeffrey Epstein. Like, why, why are you talking to your man's, man's like that? That's crazy. Wait, hold on. Let me back up. I want to hear what they say about this. Young, something like that. Nice story about J.E. in New York Magazine. Here we go. This shows you, Dear G. How are you? And apparently the relationship that, you know, these mutual friends of theirs had had there in the past.
Starting point is 04:36:04 Melania also makes an appearance. Go to the next one, shall we? This shows you, Dear G. How are you? Yeah, but who she emailing? For you. Nice story about J.E. in New York Magazine. This is the infamous. What Was it 2002? Oh, this is a nice story about, oh, this is to a, I don't know who that is. Maybe a journalist. Jay is Jeffrey I've seen. Profile where Trump said something along the lines of, if I recall, he was like, Jeffrey,
Starting point is 04:36:26 he really enjoys his social life. He likes him young, something like that. You look great on the picture. I know you were very busy flying over the world. How was Palm Beach? I cannot wait to go down. Give me a call when you are back in New York. Have a great time.
Starting point is 04:36:37 Love Alania. So you could see the extent of their own social life back in the day. For what is worth, Michael Wolf, journalist, controversial journalist, will say, who did spend a lot of time with Jeffrey. That's it? Nah, there's, they got to be more. They got to be more.
Starting point is 04:36:55 They got to be more. Should note that just because someone is mentioned in these documents, Man, let's get this. I made this list. Here we go. They were made. Them could ruin people's reputations. I know it's a hoax.
Starting point is 04:37:12 It's started by Democrats. It's been run by the Democrats for four years. You had Christopher Ray in these characters. Nah, Trump, we got to cut the bullshit. Trump. You my nigger, but we got to cut the bullshit. That was your man's, bro. Like, stop playing, bro.
Starting point is 04:37:25 Like, Harvey Weinstein was Jay Z mans too. Like, bro, like, y'all got to be like, yo, it's a hoax. This ain't no hoax. That was your man's. Like, bet. So Trump's thing is that, yo, I cut him off. I found out he was on some weird shit.
Starting point is 04:37:39 I cut him off. Cool. Let's say we believe you. You were still friends with him while he was doing some weird shit. Let's say you ain't know. That was your man's. That was your man. feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 04:37:50 So don't like, don't separate yourself too much, if anything. Just tell us what you and him were doing? Like when y'all were y'all were chilling? What were y'all doing? You know what I mean? Give it some context. I would say that, you know, these files were made up by Comey. What?
Starting point is 04:38:05 Hell no. By Obama. They were made up by the Biden. And we went through years of that with the Russia, Russia, Russia, hugs, with all of the different things that we had to go through. We've gone through years of it. Just to be clear, Christopher Ray was. the president's pick for FBI director that he put into that job.
Starting point is 04:38:24 This also comes as we're learning for the first time about Jeffrey Epstein's contact with Elon Musk. You may remember. Oh, I heard Elon in there. Elon ain't going to lie. It's ain't a good look. It's not a good look, gang. I'm being honest. No, but none of your name should be in there.
Starting point is 04:38:40 Jayzee, you should stay your ass in Marcy, nigga. You and Dame Dash should have been slapboxing. Why is your ass in the goddamn Epstein files? Elon, you could have been building a special. Why are you in the Epstein files, bro? This shit don't look good. Elon Musk dropped what he described as a really big bomb last year. Trump was in the Epstein files and that was the real reason.
Starting point is 04:39:03 You too! They had not been made public. Well, it turns out, based on what we saw today, Musk is also Epstein files. Email show that he tried coordinating multiple visits to Jeffrey Epstein's private island. Oh, he was trying to get busy too. I ain't going to allow to you, man. Sometimes, yo, if you can't get up in a spot,
Starting point is 04:39:21 you ain't going to allow to you. This dead happened one time. This dead happened one time. We were trying to, like, this is we're teenagers. We're trying to go to a club. And I forgot what happened, but, like, we didn't get in. Yo, one of my people were so tight as we leave in the club, they call the cops and say, yo, there's a fire over there, man.
Starting point is 04:39:37 There's a fire over there, man. Go check that out, man. Go check that out. It was what you mean. Yeah. Epstein was trying, I mean, Elon was trying to get on the island. They wasn't trying to let him in. Yo, what?
Starting point is 04:39:52 Man, it's time to tell on these niggas, man. You either let me in or I'm telling all you niggas, man. Fuck that, man. You either let me in or I'm telling all you. Stop it. One from 2013, Elon Musk asked Jeffrey Epstein, when should we head to your island? The year before, he said, what day- Oh, shit, nah.
Starting point is 04:40:09 Elon was trying to get it in. Well, listen, let's keep it up being, though. Elon a freaking nigga. You know, Elon the NBA young boy of, like, billionaires, right? Like, the nigga got, like, 15 kids. How many kids? Who has more kids? NBA young boy or Elon Musk.
Starting point is 04:40:27 Bro, we got to ask the question. As of mid-2020-5, Elon got more. Young boy got to catch up. Elon got 14. Young boy only got like 12 with 13. Young boy, come on, man. Come on, my boy.
Starting point is 04:40:46 NBA young boy got 12 with 9. Oh, yeah, all right. Okay, he beating Elon with that. Elon got 14 with 4. Elon, get a couple more baby moms. Man up. The hell? night would be the wildest party on your island.
Starting point is 04:41:01 Now, this is after Musk claimed in all caps, I should note last year, that, quote, Epstein tried to get me to go to his island, and I refused. Musk's representatives did not immediately respond to CNN's request for comment for explanation for those emails and that contact. And speaking of distancing and denials, recall what President Trump's Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnik said just last year about a 2005 encounter that he had with Epstein at his Manhattan townhouse. I say to him, massage table in the middle of your house?
Starting point is 04:41:27 How often you have a massage? And he says every day. And then he like gets like weirdly close to me. And he says, and the right kind of massage. And in the six or eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and I decided that I will never be in the world with that disgusting person ever again. Kat, that thing went back over the next day. Yeah, that nigga went over the next day when his wife was like, you know,
Starting point is 04:41:55 his wife was like fucking folding some clothes he went over there to get a massage stop it slime stop it gang stop it bro we're not believing none of y'all i'm gonna give it a beam i'm not believing none of these niggins bro i think they all was getting like a you know they always busting another on that island they always getting their rocks off let's keep it a bean bro bro yo it's just too unlikely for me
Starting point is 04:42:18 that only geoffrey fstein was the weirdo bro bro that's what i'm saying if you mentioned in this i ain't saying you did what they saying you did, but you was around them while they were doing some shit, and you might have did some shit. I don't know what's going on. This shit don't look right. Speak directly to them. Well, I don't know what you're speaking to.
Starting point is 04:42:36 I mean, if there's frustration with, quote, the entire process, same here. I mean, you have a situation where for many, many years, nobody even breathed the word about Jeffrey Epstein, and then all of a sudden it was all anybody would talk about. Listen, victims of Mr. Epstein have gone through unspeakable pain, And there's nobody that that should say anything differently. I hope that the work that the men and women within this department have done over the past two months, hopefully is able to bring closure.
Starting point is 04:43:05 And tonight we are hearing directly from Jeffrey Epstein's survivors who were angry. Some of them frustrated that their names showed up unredacted in the files that came out today, despite what we heard in the Justice Department about a pledge to prioritize their privacy. More than a dozen of the survivors issued a new joint statement. It reads in part, this latest release of Jeffrey Epstein files is being sold as transatlantic. transparency, but what it actually does is expose survivors. Once again, survivors are having their names and identifying information. Damn, all right.
Starting point is 04:43:32 Hey, anybody who's in there, again, I'm not protecting nobody. And I'm like other things, I'm not vouching for nobody. Your name should not be in that type of shit. You feel me? And everybody acting surprise, y'all look guilty. So that was your man's for 20 years. And it took 20 years later, for now you'd be able to. like, oh, he was doing that?
Starting point is 04:43:55 Come on, bro. That was your man's. That's your man's. Like, what you mean? You never knew he was doing that. You were throwing for 20 years. All of a sudden, we get the files. We read it.
Starting point is 04:44:07 You're naming it. You're like, oh, shit. Now, he tried to set me up. Yo, Bill Gates, stop the capping, boy. You know you were smashing them Russian miles with that, niggum, man. Stop the cap, man. Well, I don't believe none of these niggas.
Starting point is 04:44:20 But they always doing something. I'm not saying everybody was doing something illegal, but if your name from Pusher T, JZ, Trump, some weird shit going up in there, I ain't gonna lie to you. All right, yo, did y'all see this dog? Brough, tell me how I just got hit with a 911. They say, yo, Lebebe is now negotiating. Here's this crazy shit.
Starting point is 04:44:43 Aidan Ross has now come out to say, Lebebebe wants $40 million to squabble up. Like squabble up, dog Ain't this a street nigga man Yo, this is what I don't get I didn't want to play the clip yet Little baby hit my DM Like he was a gangster
Starting point is 04:45:04 Before any of this Before his men's try to pull up on me He hit my He hit my DMs like he was a gangster Says yo, I'm in New York Let's meet up And we could handle it We could squabble
Starting point is 04:45:18 He was acting like he's street nigger Like I'm supposed to be scared I'm looking at this scrawny A hunt of buck 20 soaking wet drug addict that got basically 13 chromosomes and he looked like he's retarded and i said i'm either going to slap the sense out of him or i don't know he might just be a vegetable afterwards but i gave him an addie and i showed up he hit me like i was trolling so i said okay this guy's whatever anyway we squash our issues but he was just i want to keep this in mind
Starting point is 04:45:50 i showed you out a message before i think he on sent him or something he was downed to squabble with me for free as a straight nigga. Nobody should be scared of a nerd. I'm a nerd. Now he says we could squabble.
Starting point is 04:46:11 You know what he says? Listen to this. So, you know, obviously I went to a little baby I thought, you know, we can make this fight happen. I want to give him a real number. But 30 to 40 million for him, I can't, we can't do that right now.
Starting point is 04:46:26 You know, that's kind of what it's when you're a little baby, you're a rapper, you have cred. Yo, this nigga think he's a fun. Dante Davis, man. Like, yo, the purse got this nigga tweaking, bro. Like, what the fuck? Yo, my nigga, I thought he was going to say like $5, $10 million. This thing said
Starting point is 04:46:37 $40 million, bro. Yo, this nigga, you're a little retarded, my nigga? Yo, bro, just say you, yo, listen, man, I was tweaking that night off a Pert 90, nigga. I don't want to fight this fat little nerd nigga. This nigga might hit me with a
Starting point is 04:46:50 rakishi nigga and said, he'll hit me with a Hadookin, and I'm out of there, the Falcon Punch. Just say that, nigga, like, it's cool. bro did this thing really just say $40 million? Like come on
Starting point is 04:47:02 like bro like you know what's crazy niggies online going to really defend like no no I'm gonna see man stop it man the boy sold
Starting point is 04:47:08 14,000 records my nigga the leaks the leaks first week sales nigger you did all that mush mouth rapping
Starting point is 04:47:17 nigga and it sold 14,000 right if it sold 14,000 the first week and really then we counted the full week
Starting point is 04:47:24 listen here we go here we go it sold 11k oh 11k one day and then it sold 34 the first week man you so you're so all right let me give it a 34 bro you sold 34000 the first week nigga how the hell you want 40 million man
Starting point is 04:47:39 these niggas is delusional man Atlanta looking crazy right now man four pocket full of holes this is crazy how are you ducking a fade with me the niggas they want 40 million the niggas acting like this is jake that nigger acting like this is pachio and floyd mayweather fighting Because somebody
Starting point is 04:47:58 Yeah, how have you seen this? Yo, this thing can't be serious, bro. Ask him for that. And loki, yo, I'm gonna keep it a beat with you. You know, I said whatever he gets. Nick, I thought he was gonna be realistic. I thought, like, I thought Lebebe is on some, like, like, he's gangster.
Starting point is 04:48:18 So I'm like, yo, I bet. What's up? Let's like, because I'm telling you, he's like a scrolling. I'm like, I bet. Whatever he gets, just give me half. Bro, this nigga's not, you know what he did?
Starting point is 04:48:29 Exactly what Blueface said Chappo was going to do. Watch he going outpriced himself. Nika, ain't you a hood, nigga? Y'all the niggas should be fighting for fun. You squabble up just because. I'm the one that everybody says probably never had a fight. Okay, you're my first fight.
Starting point is 04:48:45 You get to knock me out. For all the shit that I taught before and will continue to talk till we squabble. It's no, yo, the streets is going outside, man. Streets is done, bro. Streets is done. I keep telling y'all, any time, these bitch ass rappers start doing some weird shit,
Starting point is 04:49:05 call him out for squabble. Fuck all that. Let's squabble. You know what they're going to say? Well, call the right one out. Don't call out Blueface. Blueface down to squabble with you. This, nigga.
Starting point is 04:49:15 Yo, anytime these little scrawny drug addicts start going, whatever, just call him out for the squabble. They want no smoke. Lactose intolerant, digger. Jesus Christ. I would have rather him just tell, I would rather him, I'd rather he would have just told Aiden like,
Starting point is 04:49:30 yo, fuck that pussy-ass, nigga. man, I am squabbling with no bitch-ass thing. I would have rather him say that, that he could still look tough. But given a number that is out, bro, you sold 34,000 records first week, fool. Who on earth would pay you $40 million? Niggas wouldn't pay you $40 million to read an encyclopedia, and that would be the most challenging thing you could do. What is wrong with this retarded ass, nigga?
Starting point is 04:49:58 Let your chat. Come on, man. Stras is done, man. Face is done. Yo, street niggas turned down the face with nerd. Street's done, man. It's done, bro. This shit is done, man.
Starting point is 04:50:09 Bring back King Vaughn, man. Where the real tough rappers at, bro? What a gangst is that, bro? This is crazy. This nigga sold 34,000 records first week. He did a belly flop. He did a belly flop. This, hold on.
Starting point is 04:50:36 Let me, let me put, I got to put this on the screen. Let me show you a 34th. thousand records actually we don't got to do the math 34,000 records, record sales is still priced around $10 per record. That's his music that I don't care how long he worked on it made $340,000. One record is about $10. That's how they priced it even with streams. That's why they do the math on the stream and stuff. And when you buy a CD is usually $10.34,000 records first week is $340,000. Nigger, the best thing
Starting point is 04:51:14 you do is rap and you made $340,000 after you ducked the whole year claiming you were creating some shit, wouldn't pick up the phone for Spider, then you drop this bullshit. You sell $34,000 first week, which is $340,000
Starting point is 04:51:30 and you are asking for $40 million in a fight. Nigger, get a grip. Squabble up, nigga. Do it for the A. What is up with this nigga? This is, yo, hold on, I gotta call Aiden.
Starting point is 04:51:49 Yeah, that number is fake. It gotta be fake. Yo, no way. Joe, the gangster rappers? Wait, nah, this is... No way. Wait. To come.
Starting point is 04:52:02 No way, bro. No way. Hold on, now I got to call Aiden real quick. Nah, nah, nah, nah, no. This got to be some fake shit. Nah, this is not. This is the answer. Hold on.
Starting point is 04:52:31 This is crazy. That's crazy, Hey, answer the phone, bro. Oh, stop, Saxian. Man, stop all that white boy gay shit. Listen, yo, yo, yo. I just seen a clip.
Starting point is 04:52:45 You cap it, right? What? Lebedbed did not ask you for no $40 million. You're lying. Well, to be fair, I offered him. I said a number if I can get this number, would you do?
Starting point is 04:52:58 He said yes. But it's just really hard for me to get that number. Bro, stop it, man. Yo, little baby, you was, yo, you, yo, Google little baby when the nigga had rotten teeth, nigga, and was wearing the same shirt three days in a row. He,
Starting point is 04:53:11 he was supposed to be squabbling with crackheads in Atlanta for the free ski. What you, come on. You know, he think he Canelo, bro? You're like, I said no, fucking retard. Yo, yo, yo, you think he Canello? You think he's Javonte, bro. Come on, bro. Why are you mad at me?
Starting point is 04:53:27 Yo, ask him to send you a video of him boxing somebody that you could know if you get... Why are you mad at me? nigga because you let him spin you like he's bro you yeah why don't you just say to him you respond to him and say this bro if you don't want to fight him just tell me like because like because if he wants to fight he will make it happen just all you got to say is your bro honestly like if you don't want to do it it's fine too because you do know like it's like it's like you say an act do you want to fight this person i say yeah and then you're like all right
Starting point is 04:53:55 cool let's work out a deal and i say give me 200 million dollars you'll be like a bro you don't want to fight. Bro, we got to get this going on, man. Act, I'm going to call you off the show. I'll call him off the ship, okay? Bro, we got to get, yo, yo, tell him, man up, though.
Starting point is 04:54:14 I want you to end stream and come in my Jewish pussy. Man, you see, this is the reason why the fight not happening. You're doing too much gay stuff. Like, yo, yo, listen, you got to call him. I'm going to send you a blue face video.
Starting point is 04:54:26 Tell him, like, yo, yo, forget all this shit, man. Squabble up, man. What's up, man? Like, you'll tell him like, you know, he can't duck. Yo, isn't the streets dead if he ducks a fade with a nerd?
Starting point is 04:54:37 $40 million? Yo, come on, man. I'm what y'all put together, bro. Damn. Yo, Streese is dead after that, man. Streese is dead. All right, I'm gonna call you later, bro. Yo, the four P.F goons right now who've been shooting and killing niggis for him?
Starting point is 04:54:53 Yo, they all say, like, yo, bro, like, our boss scared to catch a fade with a nerd? After we don't clap mad niggas for him? Oh, hell no, man. Yo, this is crazy. Yo, man up, man up. Yo, hit him. Yo, tell him he could wear a headgear.
Starting point is 04:55:10 The retarded nigga helmet. He could wear that. He can wear that. I'm going to call him. I'm going to call you off stream. All right, bro. This is crazy, man. I love you, dad.
Starting point is 04:55:20 This is crazy. I can't believe this type of shit, man. What? Chat, what the fuck going on, man? I can't believe this shit. They want $40 million. Yo, stop it. am I tripping though?
Starting point is 04:55:36 Like, the thing would like, to put in perspective, I get it. Obviously, little baby, blueface, not the same caliber. When Blueface hopped into the ring verse, I believe, Ed Matthews, he got like $200,000. Right? I could, like, you know, obviously he's a way bigger figure than some of these people I mentioned. YK. Osiris, he's not even getting $100,000. Right? Like, this idea of like this crazy bag, let me tell you what would have to happen.
Starting point is 04:56:01 And I'm realistic, right? Yo, if it's a few million, you could kind of make it work. You could see the promotion to center. We're not professional boxers. If someone's getting $40 million, that means there's going to be a pay-per-view demand. You have to sell pay-per-view. Little baby can't sell out a stadium that's not state farm in Atlanta right now. How the hell you think if they wouldn't listen to his retarded ass rap and fill up a stadium,
Starting point is 04:56:29 why the hell would they show up for a scrawny ass to box me? I'm not the best fighter. He ain't either. Like, what is this nigga talking about? Just duck the fight already. $40 million? Bro, just really do the math on this. Professional boxers get that.
Starting point is 04:56:47 This is how they make the money, right? This is how they make the money. There's an arena. People are going to pay to come to the fight. That's a nominal fee that is part of what's going to go to the purses, right? And also the promoters. then you have the sponsors what's on your shirt your shorts what's in the ring you know this and third the leadups did a lot of like sponsors get in because big moments whatever
Starting point is 04:57:14 whatever cool then it's usually pay-per-view it's pay-per-view let me how much did how much did Oscar delahoya della hoya make in fight versus Mayweather. I want to show you what this nigg is asking for. So Oscar Deloia made 52 well, this was the guaranteed purse. Okay, factoring percentage.
Starting point is 04:57:46 Okay, okay, okay. Which one? 25 million? 25. Okay, 25 million. Mayweather earned. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Mayweather. And this was, okay, so Mayweather got 25 million for this one. What fight was this? Which fight was this? Da-da-da-da-da. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 04:58:03 the highest purse for a fighter at the time. Now, the reason why I'm looking that up is I want to look up pay-per-view buys. Okay, there was 2.4 million paper-view buys. They're spending $99 to watch Floyd and Delaware. That's why Floyd took home 25. Delaware took home 52. There was 2.4 paper view buys. Do y'all understand?
Starting point is 04:58:39 And this is why we talk about how dumb these rappers are. This is one of the biggest fights in history where Floyd guarantee was 25. The other guy's guarantee was 52. But this guy wants La Bebebe wants 40. Do you think that, bro, do you even think 24 people would buy, let's not say 24. Listen, you think 200,000 people would buy pay-per-view of me and me and the little baby
Starting point is 04:59:06 fight? Come on, bro. Come on, bro. This is crazy. See, niggas in here coping. Little baby says pay me like a superstar or don't call my phone again. This nigga think he's Canello or something. Would anyone pay $40 million for that fight or was this never happening at all?
Starting point is 04:59:44 Yeah, what the hell? Somebody said, Bro is getting his butt kick So 40 million is worth it Somebody said Academics Catch in hand That's what I'm saying So beat me up
Starting point is 04:59:56 Right? Because remember he's gangstrap I'm there It's worth $40 million You know this is ridiculous This is why I keep playing Y'all send me the clip You guys send me the clip man
Starting point is 05:00:23 This is little baby right now Bro you niggas is pissing Here we go Imagine me popping it to a nigga online like, nigga, yeah, I'm, nigga, anybody that can set it up, nigga, set it up, let's do it. Right?
Starting point is 05:00:36 Then the nigga start putting shit in motion and you're like, well, wait, I didn't negotiate my... Yo, that's a little baby right now, bro. Terms of the deal, like, what? Yeah, what? I thought we, I thought you were a straight, nigga. I even gonna lie to you.
Starting point is 05:00:52 I thought baby was like that to the point. He'd be like, yo, I'll box that nigga for free. Set up a ring in the middle of Atlanta, and I'll knock him out. I think that should be the thing. We fight for who's the king of Atlanta. I'm going to knock him out the ring.
Starting point is 05:01:08 I'll knock him out the ring. You feel what I'm saying? I'll own 4PF. I'm the new king of Atlanta afterwards. All the CBFWPTI HDMI guys got a report to me. That's how I was thinking. I thought he was a hood nigger.
Starting point is 05:01:25 Yo, just set up the ring in the middle of the hood. have a bunch of, you know, he'd be liking like Rose Royces and SRTs to surround the ring with that and have the whole Atlanta watch on some gladiator shit. And whoever wins is the new founder and the owner, Fault PF, the new king of Atlanta. I could run Atlanta for a little bit until Walker Flocka want to fight.
Starting point is 05:01:50 Is Walker from Atlanta? Walker looks like he can fight, I ain't gonna lie, he big is up. But this is a little baby right here. You know everything is going to be contracted and written up. The flyer he posted and you talk about negotiations, right? That sound like some peace treaty shit, like some water down. Like, what are you on, Cud? Are we squabbling or not?
Starting point is 05:02:17 Yeah, yo, Cud, we squabbling or not. Like, bro, you niggas is pissing me off. I'm going to go, I'm going to go run a fade, like outside. That's my fault for getting worked up, though, Cud. That's my fault. That's my fault. You know why it's my fault? He half retarded
Starting point is 05:02:33 He a perk Perk addict And he always Off some shit Because this nigga's a Muslim A vegan and a Crip So it's like a nigga like that He don't even know himself
Starting point is 05:02:44 For real Because he's like Nigger yeah I'm Nigger anybody that can set it To be negotiated But we know what that Me
Starting point is 05:02:50 Hero Camera about three or four times Already I don't think I should publicize it And make it a thing So let me This nigga talk about Negotiation
Starting point is 05:02:58 Nigg it's time to squabble up You talking about a negotiation, nigga, what you want, a Honda Civic? I'm posting back to back. Right now, I'm on my main page. Send me this clip. Yo, send me this clip. I'm about to post. Send me this clip right now, chat.
Starting point is 05:03:19 Yo, this nigga told me on a nigga, it's time to squabble up. Like, what you're talking about? Like, yo. Oh, man. I told y'all, bro. I told you, bro. I told you. I told you.
Starting point is 05:03:40 Between young thug and little baby, man. Yo, Gunna, please come, yo, gonna. Yo, gonna, let me and you spar and let's save Atlanta. The street nigger, little baby is scared to get in the ring. Gunna, me and you could spar, we could do it for charity, okay? We could, you know, you've been doing your marathons. You got a lot of stamina, pause, it seems. Me and you could spar for charity and, you know, like, have somebody stream it.
Starting point is 05:04:08 That's fine. I don't got no issues with you like that. Hopefully you don't got no issues with you, but if you do, fuck it. we can spar for charity, I don't think you a bitch like that. I don't think you a bitch. Gunna, I don't think you a bitch like that. I'm going to keep it to being with you. Real talk.
Starting point is 05:04:21 I think me or you, we could do a little sparring for charity. A couple of rounds, two rounds, you know. We ain't doing too many minutes now because I don't know about my cardio. But I'll do it with you. We don't got to put no money involved. Maybe get some donations, donated to a good cost. I'll do that with you. Little baby's a bitch.
Starting point is 05:04:41 It's crazy. It's crazy. I can't believe it, bro. Atlanta down, Atlanta's down bad right now. I can't believe it, bro. Yo, I'm gonna keep it to be with you. If I was little baby, I'm gonna duck this fight in the best,
Starting point is 05:04:53 in the most gangster way, nigga. Nicky, if I'm a little baby, the first thing I'll just said, Nick, I don't fight, niggas. Yo, I don't fight niggas. I make niggas fight for their life. I'm saying some gangster shit. Like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 05:05:04 Yo, imagine if you had responded like that. Oh, shit. Nah, baby on timing. Yo, what Wayne said? Yo, I ain't bought this gun to be boxing, nigga. Like, yo, say some gangster shit that save your image. Give me $40 million. Man, you wasn't trying to fight anymore.
Starting point is 05:05:23 Stop it, bro. This is crazy. This is bananas, bro. Mm-mm-mm-mm. Sad. Sad, y'all. Sad. Anyway,
Starting point is 05:05:51 chat, we have, like, like, a think, like one or two more VIP tickets. I just looked at the sales. we're almost out of VIP we have our live show coming up March 27 first time in Miami I will be no doing a live show for you guys
Starting point is 05:06:14 we still have like about like three or four like VIP tickets left it'll be dope if we get sold out before the end of the stream if you guys haven't copped your VIP tickets cop one for you cop one for your girl I hope you bring in a date you know what I mean bring bring the girl that you'd be cuddled up with when you watch me you gotta bring her
Starting point is 05:06:31 come I mean come on course anyway or a few VIP tickets left but we do have general admission you guys could go check that out uh mods post the link but if you guys are looking how to find it just go on event bright type in DJ academics live show it's in Miami Florida and I hope to see you guys there March 27th okay I was hoping that you know me and me and a little baby could catch a fade March 28 but don't look like you're going to happen bro don't look like it's gonna happen. What hell is this? Okay.
Starting point is 05:07:20 Jesus Christ. All right. Do you, I want me to cover it? Like, you know, young boys been sending off a bunch of tweets. Y'all want to cover it or nah? We can.
Starting point is 05:07:31 I can't believe a little baby ducked that fight like that. Bro. Streets is dead, bro. Screece is dead. Oh, boy. Disappointing. I need a shot or something. I ran out on a liquor.
Starting point is 05:07:50 I got some of the drink in this. Yeah, I do realize this niggas ducking a fight with a fucking serial alcoholic that's overweight. Like, just a street nigger who raps about stepping on shit, we pulling up, we doing this, he's ducking a fight with a nigger who spends most of his time on stream, overweight, and is a serial alcoholic. Like, bro, at some point, we got to look at a nigger and be like,
Starting point is 05:08:25 Like, man, you a bitch. Like, straight. You're like, you a bitch, bro. Like, come on. Now, granted, I'm going to be honest with you. I think he fucked himself. He should have just said no from the get-go. Right?
Starting point is 05:08:37 Like, it would have looked like, you know, he could have played the rapper card like, I'm too big for this. I'm too big for this. He could have played that card. But then he agreed. And then now he's saying, give me $40 million. All right.
Starting point is 05:08:54 Are we, are we covering this? We could cover this young boy stuff. I don't know what's going on with this. I got to go pull up one of these. pages that's gonna help me kind of sort through a young boy's been sending off a bunch of tweets uh which one of these pages gonna help me through it is it this no this don't got it did he delete it tweets or is a celebrity i don't know oh i requested this thing um wait where is this pages i usually follow they haven't let me in yet oh they oh here we go here
Starting point is 05:09:47 real. This will be having it. Okay. All right. So young boys beefing with all his baby moms, it seems. I don't know, right? I will tell you, you know, because I do see people kind of a little bit flustered about young boys' tweets and stuff. I did talk to him recently. You know, he had called to check up on me. And yeah, I'll be honest with you. He's in the mood that I could assess. he was kind of like, you know Not really going through stuff
Starting point is 05:10:18 But you know, he You know, he's a guy At the time when he called He expressed he just wanted to get away from everybody You know what I mean And who knows what that means But yeah He then invited me
Starting point is 05:10:32 He said yo, act He said Because I told him I said Like in a couple of weeks You know I'm gonna come pull up on him I told him I'm like yo You know Let's pull up let's work out and shit
Starting point is 05:10:42 Do some shit Start streaming whatever It's like yo come on. It's always an open invite. I got to start taking the trip. But he, um, he said to me, he's like, yo, he's like, I want to get out of here. He's like, yo, he's like, if I get a jet right now, would you get on it with me and go to China? And I was like, well, hold on. China? And he was just like, yeah, today. And I ain't going to allow to you, man. It felt like it was a Kanye flashback. Obviously, he's not, you know, he's, he's very cognizant.
Starting point is 05:11:14 I would tell you if he's not. But, yeah, I don't think he went to China. But he, you know, this young boy, he gets in his little moods. Everybody knows it. So anyway, he started sending some tweets. Somebody says, he says, I'm scared to go to sleep and I'm lonely. I ain't shit. I'm not enough.
Starting point is 05:11:34 I'm not healthy. That's fine. I'm here standing tall. So I don't got no manager. And if somebody play like that, tell me. Then says, if that was my choice, he won't breathe. But I can't see. Can't no nigger make you walk out the door.
Starting point is 05:11:52 What? I don't know what he's talking about. If it was my choice, he won't breathe. But I see. Can't no nigger make you walk out door. I don't know what he's talking about. Yo, you gotta be like a super, you gotta be like a female YB fan.
Starting point is 05:12:13 I understand some of this shit. Then he says, oh, I want one of you bitches say something today. I like how, I like how young boy group. beefs with his girls, like group beefs. Like, you don't beef with one. He'll beef with like five or six baby moms at a time. I like that, low-key. You know what I mean? You say, I've been waiting. You bitches
Starting point is 05:12:31 ain't about no murder. That's affectionate. That's affectionate. That's you know, your baby moms or whoever. Like, yeah, I missis ain't about that murder. They're about that murder game. Man, shut the fuck up. And to my baby mama, fuck this prostituting industry asshole, bitch. I don't. You either. Let me pop out.
Starting point is 05:12:51 Don't know what that really means either Bitch Come be Jada Maida No Jada Jada made What Who's Jada?
Starting point is 05:13:03 What's it? Is that just white? No, no no That's a typo That's a typo that's a typo Come be jazz is made That shelter for you No home having bitch Yeah does anybody use the word
Starting point is 05:13:20 Bitch more than A nigga from Louisiana I feel like Louisiana people use bitch too much. They call everybody bitch. They'll say bitch in a loving way. He said, I'm Mr. Overly. What? I'm Mr. Overly.
Starting point is 05:13:37 Overly bawling, overly doped up, all that. That too. Suck my D. Okay. He says, privacy, bitch. I don't like y'all. I'm going to keep it all the way. P.
Starting point is 05:13:53 Shit literally just these lame ass niggas with money. Y'all bag keep these holes. I'm him. Nika, fuck you. At this rolling, I'm gonna make it loud. Bitch! I like these tweets. I'm real messy, messy, bitch.
Starting point is 05:14:22 Oh yes, you know, I'll get you. Rest in peace, Maya. Who's Maya? I don't know who that is. Laugh my ass off. Y, bitch. I'm Joe Stout. I'm waiting. By the way
Starting point is 05:14:35 I was explaining to Kai's team I was like yo I had seen so I seen the message well I think y'all seen them too did I ever see like there's some alleged messages actual messages that the young boy that young boy sent to Gigi
Starting point is 05:14:50 I read this shit and I'm like nigga this is not young boy bro yo in the messages they're talking like a nigga from Brooklyn like it was Favia foreign dead ass B I'm like yo you ever heard young boy type dead ass B? Like, come on, bro. Like, now, if I go to the next thing and I see him type dead ass B, I'm like,
Starting point is 05:15:12 but for real. Yo, the messages I've seen was typing like a New York nigga. Dead ass B. They say, yeah, I, bitch. I'm Jolk Stout. What's that? Was you jorke stout me? I'm waiting.
Starting point is 05:15:26 He said, oh, man, you expected. You unexpected, old ass. Yo, M.B. A young boy love age-shaving. You old ass bitch Like he loves Yeah, how old is young boy When young boy turned 30
Starting point is 05:15:38 How old is young boy When young boy turned 30 It's gonna be on it All right But fuck you Pops You get slapped the fuck out Let me fight with my whole bro
Starting point is 05:15:52 I'm not even talking about That one fool What It's not because not his father is he Fuck you pops You'll get slapped the fuck out of What Let me fight with my hoe
Starting point is 05:16:08 Yeah, I like that Sometimes you gotta say, yeah, let me be for my bitch Real quick, man, get out of here, right? Don't bother me, bro. Now you're gonna start some shit. Okay, what is this right here? Who's this? Who's this Negro? Is this the basketball player?
Starting point is 05:16:36 He says this proves that money don't make you happy for long. You gotta stay attached to yourself. You gotta attach yourself to some outdoor activities and enjoy life. I hardly ever see this man post-pop. positive thoughts. Hopefully he could find a good therapist because growing up in the hood will have you looking at every situation on a toxic level. Pick your battles, young man. I know you're not talking to young boy. Oh, nah. A young boy might go crazy on him. No, I know he ain't talking to him. Oh, let's watch this. Just dive in my shit. If I'm seeing courtside, bro, I'll be
Starting point is 05:17:11 okay. Oh, man. Pussy, yeah, nigger. I ain't into what? You do. Y'all don't want to fuck with me. And what is this? Who is this guy? He looks familiar. This guy right here. Oh, oh, this is the father of Devante.
Starting point is 05:17:39 DeJante. Oh. That's DeJante's dad. Oh. Oh. Oh. Why he'd mention a young boy. Young boy didn't mention him.
Starting point is 05:17:59 Young boy is between. Then the guy says, I'm addressing this one time and one time only. I speak from the heart, my own experience. I'm headed to the beach. Y'all be too soft and I'm always in y'all feelings over celebrities. Now I don't get a fuck about you. Go get some money and seek help if you're miserable.
Starting point is 05:18:18 Really quick. All you punk-ass friends, man, you think is just going crazy. You're acting like bitches on the internet because I spoke some real shit from my OG's perspective. I ain't got nothing against young boy. He's a talented rapper, man. His son, I always treated his son. Wait, is he bumping, is he bumping young boys' music?
Starting point is 05:18:38 Okay. When he came around, like, he was one of my grandchildren. So at the end of the day, why would I dislike his dad but love him? Man, you guys, it's crazy as far. Real talk. Okay. So is Dejante's dad trying to give young boys some mature game? Hmm, interesting.
Starting point is 05:19:01 You're not rock a young boy, but I'm caught, I'm a little caught in a pickle here. because I do believe you have the right to beef with your hoes. It's the reason why he got like 13 girls pregnant. Like, yeah, I want to be able to beef with whoever. I wake up in the morning, einy, me, me, me, my, and me, I'm going to beef with this whole today, and I'm going to pick one. I'm going to beef with him. That's the perks of being a baby daddy to beef with whatever hole you want to beef with.
Starting point is 05:19:28 So the father of Dejante, who's dating one of his baby mamas, yeah, it should stand up his business. but I'm not going to lie, Homeboy didn't give bad advice. He kind of gave some good advice. It's just that, hey, you got to mind your business, right? As long as he's not talking about your son, right? Your son decided to date a woman who had a baby with him.
Starting point is 05:19:52 And I've always said, don't get with a baby mama unless you down to deal with a baby daddy. You date a baby mama is a three-way relationship because that baby daddy has got to be factored in. And remember that, especially if she had her first kid with that nigger, that was her first round pick. Maybe you got, like, that was her lottery pick. Maybe you're the second round. Maybe you're the third round.
Starting point is 05:20:15 You might be an undrafted free agent. But that was her first round pick. Mind your business. Because I said go find some happiness. Nigger, I found happiness. Nick, I live in Hawaii. So if any one of you got any problem, what I say. Yo, bro, don't drop the low.
Starting point is 05:20:30 Don't drop the low. Come on, yo. You know how 4K trade give it. Yo, bro, don't drop the low 4K trades on a different type of timing, bro. Hey, dude. Come to Hawaii. Oh, no. Don't say that, unc.
Starting point is 05:20:46 Come say this shit to my face. If you can't say it to my face, anything you say on the internet, is irrelevant. See, I don't get all in my feelings because you niggas is tagging me and comment and all shit. That's for little kids and little suckers, man. I ain't got nothing against young boy. Oh Good so, man Okay
Starting point is 05:21:10 All right And then what's this Who's this Drew? Okay, shout to Drew She says, I be chilling This shit too funny Don't get caught
Starting point is 05:21:29 Don't get astray now Don't catch a stray Somebody says So you see what's been said girl Say can't be about me I don't bother nobody Is he talking about you? She said shit no
Starting point is 05:21:40 Okay She laughs So wait, you're homeless No, I'm hoeless Yo, young boy's a G man Nicky got like 13 baby mommas And they all loyal to him Except the one girl with the NBA guy
Starting point is 05:21:57 Like that there does wait they turn That's lit Like yo That's lit as fuck Like she's like All right, my turn Oh who's the prostitute And to my baby mama
Starting point is 05:22:12 Fuck this prostitute And this okay I don't know what this is All right Oh, it's a new young boy song Yeah, he's with his wife This is fam right here Or like core fam, you know, there's more kids But
Starting point is 05:22:29 Father, mommy, the kids Oh Felle yaleenna y'allit me Yon de Ville I really want to flow Okay, all right That's dope. That's fire. I like it.
Starting point is 05:23:01 Dejante bought her car. Oh, good for him. Bought her that. Her man did that for her. She only has that because her man got it for her. Her man paid for that. Her man took her there immediately. He did it. My man, my man, my man. Her man bought her that. Her man did that for her. She only. Okay. All right. Four times already. I don't think let me this nigga talking about negotiation. niggas it's time to squabble up nigga you talk about a negotiation
Starting point is 05:23:43 nigga what you want to Honda Civic All right man Peace to young boy and family And to all his baby mama Stop stressing my boy out man Let my boy live his best life man Wait y'all turn y'all be good man That's my nigger
Starting point is 05:24:03 Okay give him peace And stop acting funny on him all right Anyway What else is going on man You chat We did six hours We're here six hours. I told you I fixed the sleep schedules looking good.
Starting point is 05:24:21 Maybe we could have hit like a small topic or something. A little small topic. Oh, this is so funny. This is so funny. I got to do this, right? So Billy Elish while at the Grammys, Billy Eilish, she did a speech. And the speech, she was like, yo, you know, fuck ICE. Ice should be banned.
Starting point is 05:24:43 And she basically said, yo, I. How could you tell somebody they don't belong here when we're all on stolen land? Right? So she referred to the United States and stolen land. Listen to it. No one is illegal on stolen land. I ain't going to cap. She thought she ate with that one.
Starting point is 05:25:05 I ain't going to hold you. Yo, do people even think about the bullshit that said when they're clapping? Like, yo, bro, are y'all American residents or not? Like, to keep it real, the Native Indians are supposed to be saying this is a stolen land. Y'all's supposed to say this ain't stolen land, right? And yeah, it's just really hard to know what to say and what to do right now. And I just, I feel really. There's so much virtue signaling going on.
Starting point is 05:25:35 Like, yo, bro, listen, there's not many people that are loving how hostile has become between ICE and residents in whatever particular city. And nobody wants to see American citizens or really anybody at all get gunned down. And like, it's a tricky situation. I've always said that. You know, again, with immigration or illegal immigration, what do you think? Should everybody get amnesty? Should they be removed? Should we only get the bad ones?
Starting point is 05:26:05 Everybody has a different thought about it. If you think anybody should get removed, that's where ICE is going to come in. Obviously, I don't think I should be acting like thugs. I don't think they should be, you know, quick to pulling their guns and stuff like that. But, you know, a lot of these things end up happening because of strained relationships. between community and the feds, right? But there's so many people pandering, like, oh, we're on stolen land.
Starting point is 05:26:34 Nobody should be telling people to leave. Hopeful in this room, and I feel like we just need to keep fighting and speaking up and protesting, and our voices really do matter, and the people matter. And, um, I say, sorry. I think she said, fuck USA? say? Show. Show. That's crazy. So anyway, this turned into pure hilarity. After the, um, oh, Oh, fuck ice. I don't know who these people are, but you can tell they love Trump. They look like they love Trump.
Starting point is 05:27:17 Which, you know, again, this is also more than a Trump issue. It's like, um, President Obama utilized ICE to deal with removal. Maybe not necessarily the same way in terms of going into cities and grabbing people from their jobs, whatever. But supposedly Obama deported the most people of any recent president. So, you know, it's not like just a political issue for one side. It's however you feel about illegal immigration. If someone comes here illegally, they're not paying taxes, they're not doing whatever. Do you think they should say? You know, you guys could decide on that.
Starting point is 05:27:50 Anyway, so here's the interesting part, right? people have now said, well, it's interesting that you say America is stolen land. Well, your house, and apparently she has a $14 million mansion, it's actually technically on a land that was an ancestral land that was taken from a tribe called the Tongva. So now they're saying, hey, since you're talking about stolen land, do you know your $14 million mansion is on a land that was on a land that was. was stolen from the Tonga tribe. So now the Tonga tribe puts out a statement.
Starting point is 05:28:28 They said as the first people of the greater Los Angeles Basin, we do understand that her home is situated on our ancestral land. Ilish has not contacted our tribe directly regarding our property. So people are now putting pressure on her saying, if you believe America is stolen land and your $14 million house is on property that is verified to be stolen from the Tonga, the tribe, shouldn't you just give your house back to the people that, you know, technically you're stealing it from?
Starting point is 05:28:59 Which is so funny because, you know, all this pandering and woke shit is now like literally turning on her. And here we go, here we go. Here we go. So what ends up happening is that some dudes actually show up. Like, they pull up to her house because they're like, you know, if America's stolen land. Why are some of the things over titties, bro?
Starting point is 05:29:21 if America is stolen land let us pull up and walk through your house like why can't we do that so here we are here because this is stolen land Billy and we think we should be given access to your quite lovely
Starting point is 05:29:38 three million dollar mansion it's 14 this is funny as shit now this is jokes I'm sorry whether you whether you are you don't like the ice thing or not whatever like you know you know, it's anti-American to say, oh, all this is stolen land. Now, we get the history of America, but like, if you're one of the people who are privileged
Starting point is 05:29:59 who are enjoying all the benefits of the stolen motherfucking land, you know what I mean? Like, yo, it's like a nigga that's dripped in diamonds from head to toe saying, man, listen, man, the diamonds belong to all the Africans, man, that's blood diamonds. Like, nigga, you got old diamonds. Like, yo, bro, give yours back first, right? So this is just funny. This is a funny segment. It's a show live on G.B. News. Do you remember when Billy Eilish said this at the Grammys?
Starting point is 05:30:21 No one is illegal on stolen land. Now, she opened a road for the troll. No one is illegal on stolen land. Which, if your house is on stolen land, if someone walks onto your property, technically it shouldn't be legal. It shouldn't be trespassing or anything else, right? Um, um, b. This is all I want to say. Sorry. Well, Billy reckons there's no such thing as an illegal. human because we're all on stolen land so we're here in Billy's quite posh
Starting point is 05:30:51 neighborhood in Los Angeles let's go and see if she practiced what she preaches hopefully if she sticks by her merits she'll have no problem with me waltzing in maybe making a cup of coffee or a tea three million dollar home she's got some paddocks out the back with stables and horses maybe we can go for a horse ride I'm sure she'd have no problem with it because she stood up on the stage at the Grammys tens of thousands of people watching the audience millions around the world the clip's gone viral here we go oh nice little place bins are out it's bin collection day first of all isn't that ironic massive gates keeping people out i thought billy
Starting point is 05:31:27 didn't believe in borders according to the uh the driveway billy does believe in borders she believes in massive gates keeping people out a couple of cameras up there as well the lights are on so somebody must be home let us in please billy we are here because this is stolen land billy We should be given access to your quite lovely $3 million mansion. And such is Billy's concern for security and privacy. It's surrounded by pretty decent security fencing. Very nice indeed. Massive security hedges as well.
Starting point is 05:32:04 She's taken a lot of concern and time to make sure she's got some privacy, as you'd expect. Oh, there we go. At the $3 million Los Angeles pad of Billy Elish, she reckons nobody's illegal because we're all on stolen land anyway, but when it comes to her own house here in L.A. I think she's got different ideas hilarious hilarious
Starting point is 05:32:24 it said Billy Island's house is surrounded by a wall and I suspect she will call the police if you climb it Yo Why did she troll like that? Like go We are here Let us in Billy
Starting point is 05:32:36 We're trying to come on the stolen land Yo Nah this shit got in his jokes though It says She said fuck ice but lives in a $14 million mansion behind the wall. What the hell? It's me arriving at Billy Island's house
Starting point is 05:32:56 with all my belongings since no one is illegal on stolen land. Oh, no, this is jokes. This is jokes, bro. Oh, this is a different property, I guess. I thought it was... Oh, no, this is a different property. Oh, look at you. You got multiple properties.
Starting point is 05:33:21 She has a $14 million property and a $3 million property. Nah, this is straight-up jokes. I can't have a lie. name AI the tribe people. The tribal, it's that thing Billy Adams should give back her house. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 05:33:45 Back when he... I'm done, man. I'm done. Yeah, nah, this is jokes. This is jokes right here. All right, all right. Billy Is this a 14-minute-on-a mansion, L.A., built on land with a Tonga tribe once lived.
Starting point is 05:34:06 You should return that stolen land. You should house all the migrants. There's no doubt in my mind that you and your brother, other Elon Omarin. We don't do that in America. Go back to Ireland. Okay, whatever, whatever. All right.
Starting point is 05:34:25 Okay, chat. Anyway, lastly, before I get out of here, and thank you guys for a really productive stream today. Thank you guys. We've been good. Listen, we have, I could confirm,
Starting point is 05:34:39 there are only two more VIP tickets left for our show. You guys should go check that out. If you want to have a meet and greet with me, there's only two more. Actually, two more. so just to let you know all right uh i'll read some donations if i didn't already and we're gonna call it for the day i think my sleep schedule is kind of back on check and we will be back tomorrow
Starting point is 05:35:02 okay let's see what i missed let's see what i missed what did i miss oh oh by the way tomorrow is our j cole stream it's all about cold world literally tomorrow. Why does it take me so long to pull up donation? It's crazy. Come on. Load up. Come on. Let's get to it. And I ended the stream without being drunk. I'm not drunk at all. So I said, What's the dirt? Thank you for the 14. By the way, what's the dirt? I need you tomorrow. I want to stream a little bit with you. I hear you are a huge J-Cold fan. I want to talk to you about that. He said, I did a great job with that J-Cole 29 and 39 breakdown. I didn't think about it that way, but you nailed it. Those are scary ages before 30 and 40. Makes you think a lot. Right. So when I said, don't you, do you fair little baby sending goons over to your event, et cetera? I mean, it's career damage, and I feel like he might be feel like you're messing with his paper.
Starting point is 05:36:13 Careful, man. Yeah, yeah, I think he's more scared that I send Fannie Willis over to his house, okay? Yeah, maybe he's supposed to see. Worldwide subscriptions that, yo, act that's a terrible pitcher game. I know, they got me looking like a rod weight. But, you know, take it, man, losing some weight. So I said, Dave 5 of 28. Holy!
Starting point is 05:36:32 But tell that Snowflake Mod Walet to stop banning the chat queen. What's going on? And stop crying over memes. Stop simping for Tia in the cord. We're hard on thoughts. Fleak, free, clear. Wait, what's going on? Is there simping in the cord?
Starting point is 05:36:46 If you guys haven't joined our Discord, we do have a different world in there. It's like, you know, this is chat nigger universe. Discord.g.g. Slash academics. You go there, and currently there's 3,000 people online, and we have 30,569. I implore you guys get up in there, you know, shit.
Starting point is 05:37:06 Don't be simping, but they got women in there. You got, you know, homies you can, you know, chop it up with whatever the case is. Down some such shit, but whatever. It's Pandit. Thank you for the five. It says, Epstein is the type of character, Raymond Reddington would know about it in the TV show. Facts! That's facts!
Starting point is 05:37:24 You know, that's a great comment. Epstein is definitely the guy that Raymond Reddington will be calling up, bro. Right? Like, we could see an episode about Epstein and Raymond Redding to facts. It said, don't worry, Nick Fuentes is dropping his Epstein explanation this Friday. It should be on point like usual. I think, you know, Nick Fuentes is a really good speaker, and he's good at explaining stuff. So I don't agree with everything.
Starting point is 05:37:50 He says, you know, some of the racial stuff I'm not really with. Someone, oh, your rage hit me up about it because I think I complimented Nick Fuentes. And he was just like, bro, he, yo, he thinks black people are anything. animals. And I'm like, bro, like, I'm going to be honest with you. I usually don't look at white people for their thoughts on race. Like, I'm not trying to get their approval. If I've ever mentioned Nick Fuentes is solely because when he's talking like foreign politics, right? And some American politics, I think he's pretty logical and he's a good speaker. Okay. Do I agree with him on racial stuff? I wouldn't really need to listen to him for racial stuff. I'm a black man. I'm sorry. I don't need to listen to Nick Fuentes opinion about race. So, yeah, he probably has some opinions that definitely I don't fuck with. And, but I could discern. And I could be like, hey, I listen to this part. Whatever.
Starting point is 05:38:40 You know, I understand people might not like it. Tev Marley, thank you for the gifted subs, my brother, gifted memberships. I appreciate you. Ruger Red, as always. Thank you. So I said, do you think Dirk takes a stand? I don't think so at all. I think he would get annihilated on the stand.
Starting point is 05:38:53 The reason why they're going to admit lyrics for him to explain lyrics, explain. He's going to have to explain too much things. And I think, you know, you don't put somebody. understand unless they're either really good at communicating or it's a self-defense case where essentially they're just telling the truth and part of the necessary thing that needs to be exposed to get this person off is that I was scared for my life part of self-defense is saying I was scared at the time I killed the nigger whatever it is I was in fear for my life and in that sense
Starting point is 05:39:26 you would put them on a stamp who did that hurricane chris did that so how do you feel about Kendrick bleeping out J. Cole words on whacked mural. He said, I made the born Sigur beg for forgiveness. So-and-so, sparing him or no. Kendrick is Jay-Cole's daddy, I'm sorry. So I said, Ak, could you honestly leave the J-Cole album reaction alone? That shit's going to be a hate listen part.
Starting point is 05:39:52 He's going to ruin the vibe. Nah! Hey, maybe I have my man wants to dare with me or someone, you know? So I said, Ack, Drake's suit after losing a rap battle. Drake and Cole are disappointed. If you don't want to hear tough talk from Cole, it should be the same for Drake. someone says,
Starting point is 05:40:06 Ack, please investigate the amount of teeth in Billy Elish mouth. It seems overpopulated. Stop it, bro. Somebody says, yo, why do you think Billy Isle's got so many teeth? Yo, it's the same dude I said that. Say, man, make sure you train in and shadow boxing. Well, unless you get 40 million reasons, I don't know
Starting point is 05:40:22 if I need to. D-419. Thank you and welcome to the chat gang. I appreciate you. Money-hungry. 43. Thank you for the two. Shout up, big act. Where is, bro, where's a smoke movie on YouTube? Okay, so once you're late, Flacco already said this. Day late and Dollar short, you can't.
Starting point is 05:40:39 Outwork Flacco. Flacco's saying to Jim. He's looking like Shannon Sharp. What are you talking about? To be honest, YouTube music recommendation playlist is much better than Spotify. It's night and day. They're growing at 25% and Spotify, 12%. I agree with you.
Starting point is 05:40:51 John Rick, I'm surprised you actually know that. Yeah, YouTube is growing at a lot more people are coming over for premium because their bundled packages, not only they do have some YouTube TV, but people are realizing that. that, hey, we could listen to music in the background with YouTube premium and also get no ads on all videos. So it's better bang for buck and cheaper, right? So as the act, you should suggest Drake to make Iceman a cohesive album about 17 songs.
Starting point is 05:41:16 Now I'm not going to suggest anything to him. I want to hear what his original thing is. You know, Drake knows what he needs to do. He doesn't need like, you know, he knows, okay? Squimby, thank you for the tennis. It says, I thank you for the normal hour of streams. I appreciate you. And star status, Chris, thank you for,
Starting point is 05:41:34 the five gifted membership i appreciate you a lot okay and here we go we go to here we go to king academics yeah yeah yeah yeah hold on give me one second i'm loading up these uh donations here sorry what's going on with this see okay oh yeah here we Sorry. There we go. Perfect. So I said, can you explain what happened to Polo G? Um, I don't think anything happened to him.
Starting point is 05:42:36 Obviously, quoting some legal trouble, but, you know, he's still around, right? Uh, clear voirent says, Dave, 48. Oh, yeah, I read that already. Thank you. Somebody says, what's your business email for real inquiries, academics, music at gmail.com. Cover cam, Sue and J. Cole. We did last night. The re-upload that should be put up.
Starting point is 05:42:53 A drill. Could you put up that cam topic? I appreciate you if you can. someone's asking about it. We covered it last night. Somebody says, know some nigga that went to that island. Yeah, huh?
Starting point is 05:43:04 Kanye was kind of warning us. You're right. So I said, act, bro, I drive trucks, man, because you start getting on earlier. I need you. I'm whipping that whip and I got that VIP tickets to your show.
Starting point is 05:43:11 Ooh, my boy. I got you. I got you. Yeah, I know. I can't be letting you down. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. One of the popular times for truck drivers to drive.
Starting point is 05:43:20 Is it like early morning or is it late? You kind of get on, you know, after five a little bit. So I want to say you literally get paid not to speak rappers oh my god still carried on that narrative that's not true i told you what that money was for i got paid um to just post for awareness that the album was out um i got requested um as a favor to not speak about his album by p and p's my guy and um i did oblige obviously i wouldn't do it again
Starting point is 05:43:49 because i don't like that thing if you think kai makes 50m you don't know business cpm is like $5 is audience can't even buy pizza. Nobody would care to run ads on there. I'm a business, for real, just like YouTubers. If you don't think Kai made $50 million, you're crazy. Like, let me just give you an example. Kai's the biggest on the platform. Like Joe Rogan's the biggest on Spotify.
Starting point is 05:44:11 Literally go read The Verge. And I know you want to say, oh, Kai's a kid. There's a sales team for Twitch that's going to sell ads based on a Mafiathon. It's not like they have bullshit sponsors. You see gambling companies. You see Sprite. You see McDonald's. You see Sprint.
Starting point is 05:44:35 Like, money is money. Trust me. Okay. The last stage of grief. Acceptance. Somebody said, are you still crying about this two years later? Crying about what? So I said, oh, you're talking about the Kendrick and Jake things.
Starting point is 05:44:48 Somebody said, Kenrick Clyde was so good. Everybody, he cool with in the files and nobody cares. Somebody says, right? Someone said, man, you still line on doubt. Kendrick intern. That's what I said, did he make Tupac think he was signed to death row and was signed to him. Did he own Shikor family money? Call him out. Who are you talking about?
Starting point is 05:45:04 Full matter, what up with you? Renee K2 says, do you think emo rap is dead or could it make a comeback? It's never dead, but it's definitely, you know, it'll come back. So I'll which a theory in mind doesn't mean that Netflix would basically buy the boxing industry too. All the biggest fights are on Netflix now. So the thing with the industry of boxing is that there isn't necessary leagues, right? There is a sanctioning body, right, which is the commission.
Starting point is 05:45:31 But boxing as a sport is governed by these belts. And that happens to be the thing that kind of governs these fights because everybody's fighting for the belts. So the WAB, WBC, WBA, all that type of stuff. And there's not a central league. You know, it's very different. So I don't think their goal would be to buy the entire boxing because people could always have boxing matches out of them. So I said, I got you with the Gold Shriding Act. All right, Renee.
Starting point is 05:46:03 And C.K. Rhyme says, I'll write the distract for free. Come on, man. Give me some bars. Appreciate you. Okay. Great. Chat, I love y'all. I love y'all.
Starting point is 05:46:10 I love y'all. I really do appreciate you guys. You guys are absolutely phenomenal. Thank you guys for all the tremendous support. And I will see you guys. guys back on tomorrow and we will have a good time all right peace out chat have a good night join the discord and again remember go back

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