DJ Akademiks Live Streams - Joe Budden Violates Yung Miami. Lil Yachty / Karraboo Fallout. Pooh Shiesty wants Cardi

Episode Date: August 25, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Chat, chat, chat, chat, welcome, welcome, welcome. I think we should be on all platforms now. Three days in a row, y'all thought I couldn't do it, but I'm back with another streak. Let's see how long the streak could go. So we got three days in a row right now. How long, y'all think the street is going to go? I think the last time we tapped out, pause,
Starting point is 00:00:18 at like three or four in a row. So right now we're at three in a row. Let's see, let's see if we could, I think I could stream a week straight or no. y'all think i got it yeah i think it's over today anyway chat welcome uh listen we do have a bunch of topics to talk about today young my young miami gets responded to by joe budding a couple you know little fallouts from the caribou yati situation poohycey shoes a shot at cardi b offsets
Starting point is 00:00:52 not going for it uh we get some more information on uh ybc dole who passed away a philly rapper from a philly rapper who passed away yesterday and a few more other things that's happening in the culture you get what i'm saying um what else i feel like i had like about a few more topics in mind too we're going to get to whatever so you know if if um i don't think of something please just definitely spam it in the chat um i'm gonna try to keep the drake banter to a limited amount this time i know i know recently we've been doing like a hour of drake stream uh like over hour the stream been dedicated to drake and as much as you know I like the rapper Drake,
Starting point is 00:01:35 I do realize there's many other things to us to talk about. And some of you might get a little bit, you know, just tired of hearing about Drake. I get you. I get you. I get you.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Okay. So it's Yadi's birthday, I believe. Or is it the day after his birthday? Which one is it? Anyway, happy birthday to a little Yadi. Let me see what else. I'm just looking at a few things
Starting point is 00:01:56 that are popping up. Okay, okay, okay, okay. By the way, why did I get news that that, that, that, that Kendrick is coming? I've gotten some sources that tell me Kendrick. Not, I don't think it's on some dish shit, but I've heard that, you know, Kendrick is loading up. I don't know if that means an album. I don't know if he's finally going to start giving out the handouts of features that he
Starting point is 00:02:24 probably promised them, niggins, who was, who were cripp walking and blood walking on that stage. I don't know if it's just going to be a Lucy. Maybe it's that track that was on the beginning of the not like us video. but I was told Kendrick is coming. And pause on that, by the way. That sounds wild if you listen to in the vacuum.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Okay. Yeah, you know what we also did not talk about? We didn't talk about the young boy situation. So YB, who caught another charge, we didn't really kind of like flush it out of it. So remind me to talk about that, right? So we'll actually talk. Matter of fact, we should probably start with that, right?
Starting point is 00:03:00 We should probably start with that. Look at you. Look at these things in here. Listen, I will say Kendrick's team keeps his, you know, keeps a tight lid on everything. So I couldn't get any confirmation more than Kendrick's coming. Like, I don't know what that means. Like, what the fuck does that mean? You get what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Like, you want to them joints, man. Kendrick open his mouth. Just get that nigga to Grammy ready, man. Fuck. Anyway. Yo, NBA young boy. NBA young boy who, remember I told you guys. that he basically pled guilty to a Louisiana gun possession charge.
Starting point is 00:03:36 And in that possession charge, it's kind of interesting. So young boy has caught three gun possession. Like, clearly young boy loves guns. Like young boy, which, by the way, you know, it's kind of shocking that he would even have or need a gun. Up in Utah, I've been there. I'm telling you, they have a small army guard in a nigger, multiple shifts, checkpoints, all type of shit.
Starting point is 00:03:59 They were treating the shit like it was almost like a maximum security jail. Like, to keep a real, Donald Trump and Butler, Pennsylvania didn't have better people protecting him than a young boy has 24 hours a day. Like, I'm going up there, these things got silencers, all the type of shit. They got snipers. Like, these things are what was planning for some other shit. But I'm guessing when you got the money, I don't know how much that cost a year. You could just pay, niggins, just to be a small army for you. So anyway, we all know that young boy caught one gun charge.
Starting point is 00:04:27 It was in Louisiana when you were shooting a video. Remember back in, like, the heyday? Like, this was the prime young boy. He would do a music video. No, he would do a song, preview it real quick. If people like it, he goes into the streets literally. Shoes the video, the video drops tomorrow. Like, to keep a real, young boy revolutionized how music is being dropped.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Even how Drake is dropping music right now. Now, I'm not going to just credit that to Youngboy, but a lot of this shit was like unheard of. Like, once the DSP era kind of took over, nobody just dropped random music anymore. But Youngboy kind of revolutionized it because he dropped music like. like a vlogger right he would like again just i can't remember what video it was i remember him facetiming me and he had the outfit on and then literally the video came out the next day like the turnaround time in in music historically when you use these big production companies or some of these you know big producers like like um big directors like you know back in the day uh was
Starting point is 00:05:24 beny boom and all director x and all that but they're not giving you a video turnaround in a day like you know i mean they're gonna tell you like bro couple of weeks bro okay We got all type of shit to do. It's going to be five, but a couple of weeks, right? Young boy, we all know this thing. He's the master of creating a thousand videos in the same room. Like, how much time could he show you the garage? He showed you this corner, that corner, this corner, that corner, that corner.
Starting point is 00:05:47 One time he's standing on the hood of the car. The other time he's in the car seat. The other time he's just chilling by the trunk. Like, he's pretty creative. I got to give him credit. So just to break this down, you know, he moves like a vlogger. Like he gets these cameramen, they're pretty much running gun. Yo, just film me doing some shit.
Starting point is 00:06:05 We're going to edit it real quick and final cut or whatever, Adobe, whatever. And we're going to put this video out tomorrow. So young boys in Louisiana, he tells all his homies that come out. They all come out with their chappas because you can't show up to the music video shoot without your handy-dandy handgun. Some person who's a snitch, not a snitch, just a civilian, calls the cops, the cops run down, everybody scatter, guns get thrown away. they basically, you know, as young boys, um,
Starting point is 00:06:34 music video shoot, but when the cops show up and neither the, the witness say they ever saw a young boy with a gun. They go through this SD card. The SD card depicts young boy having a gun. He ain't supposed to have a gun. Federal charge, bingo,
Starting point is 00:06:45 okay? Uh, his homies did try to take the charge, but, but they, they were not going to give away the charge of him having a gun because they felt that they had proof on the SD card. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Now, he basically, um, when they actually go, to arrest him, right? Because he got arrested statewide, but then he bonded out. Then he goes to L.A., and then the feds are coming into indict now, okay? They go to arrest him, and basically he got a gun in that car.
Starting point is 00:07:15 So that's another gun charge, right? Then he takes off running. They send a K-9 after him. He's hopping over a fence. He's doing backflip, parkour. He's doing all type of shit. Essentially, he beats that case in federal court. So he beats the second gun charge.
Starting point is 00:07:30 federally, and, you know, I told you out the feds are mad. They're tight. They're upset. Why did it be the case? By the way, you know, I wish it was easier to get like body cam shit from L.A. but they're like really tight on it, especially like the feds. They don't really like release and shit. Anyway, the nigger takes the police in a high speed chase.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I think he's in a Mayback. The niggas in a Mayback takes them on a high speed. he chase, hops out the Mayback, starts running. They let the dogs after him. He's run like a motherfucker hopping over fence. He hides under like a thing. They basically surround the place, say, yo, come out or are sending the dog. And I think they sent the dog, but the dog didn't bite him.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Anyway, I still that to say. The reason why he beat that case is that the gun was in the glove compartment in the car. And they actually argued successfully in court that the car was new. Young boy didn't know the gun was there. His fingerprints ain't on the gun, nor the magazine. There's no proof that he touched the gun, put the gun there, and not because he was driving a car that had a gun there that he didn't know about, means he should be held liable for it.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And surprisingly, you know, after a bunch of suppression hearings, this N30, actually won. He won that. You get what I'm saying? So he beat the feds once, I told you they're mad as hell. He still had the original one from the music video, Louisiana thing. And then while he beats the first one, you know, this is taking a couple of years. years, they grant him, you know, because he was locked up for a couple months at the time,
Starting point is 00:09:05 they grant him house arrest on what's called Gravedigger Mountain in Utah. So he basically gets like this $10, $15 million house. He tells the judge, I'm going to pay for like $2.4 million a month. I forgot what the exact amount was, but they pledged a certain amount for like around-the-clock security, train per people. And, you know, obviously he's still going to have his ankle monitor. on he also picked the house where the probation officer was or was going to be even close by there um or the probation office actually so he they let him out so he goes to grave digger
Starting point is 00:09:42 mountain okay cool is that gravedigger mountain blah blah you know he has a couple of guests gilly wallow me um who else i think a little mob will might be on the he's he's had people come up there all of a sudden the the feds or not the feds actually utah state police will actually really the city police and then also in lieu of the state, they run down because they say young boy has been cosplained as a doctor, Dr. Golden, who has been issuing fake prescriptions that he's having his side chicks pick up and his man's in them, right? They said he's done it so many times. And this is a drug ring that, you know, again, if you ask me, if he was doing this, which I believe he's completely innocent, but if he was doing this, nobody actually believes somebody who makes it. $100 million in music the year before is trying to make money off
Starting point is 00:10:34 selling drugs that he got illegally from pharmacies, right? So we basically, if this is true, he's just trying to feed an addiction that he probably gained while being in house arrest and being sitting stir crazy, he's probably
Starting point is 00:10:50 self-medicating. So all them drugs was probably for him, right? Cool. When they run in and they raid the house to arrest him and others, they find another gun. So this is about the third gun that is now being found. And by the way, every time a gun is being found, remember, the feds lost a gun case to why be they feel away. They're petty. They feel away. They still have one more or one more shot at him in Louisiana. And now the state, I don't even think the state actually charged him with the gun. But the feds have came in and charged him with the gun. But the feds have came in and charged him with the gun. gun that they found in a raid. Did he have a gun in his hand? No, but there was a gun inside the house. Now, keep in mind, he has armed security. He has a militia around his house. There was a personal
Starting point is 00:11:41 handgun that supposedly belonged to his wife. It's illegal handguns. Not illegal. Now, this is a little gray area because it supposedly said that, you know, when you live with a felon, that doesn't, you know, neutralize your rights to be able to have, to be able to bear arms. So you still could have a gun while you're living in the house with a felon who can't have a gun. Here's the thing. Usually, like, the stipulation is you have to make sure that the felon doesn't have access to said weapon, right? So if you keep it in a safe, they should know the password. If it's a fingerprint, their fingerprint shouldn't be on it. And basically it's almost like, you know, it separates them from grabbing the gun anytime and doing whatever they want. So,
Starting point is 00:12:25 The gun was legal, but here's what happened. Young boy, he don't believe in the right to remain silence. He probably don't know what it means by anything you do is say it could be using a court of law against you. And when the police comes in and they're searching a place and they ask him if there's any guns, he says, yes, there's a legal gun, but it's my girl's gun. And then they ask him the obvious question,
Starting point is 00:12:46 have you ever used the gun? Has it ever been in your possession? And he says, yes, I've moved the gun back and forth before. like one time and basically admits that he's handled the gun. So that's kind of like their proof. Like he literally says on, it's going to be on somebody's body cam somewhere where he supposedly said, yeah, I have you, I have touched the gun. He cannot touch the gun.
Starting point is 00:13:12 That's the thing. So the feds came in and they have now, because he's about a plea guilty in this Louisiana case, they clearly want him to get, you know, they want him to get that seven years. like seven or more years. Supposed he's facing 10, so they give him another charge. And I think probably what's going to happen is lawyers going to have to just try to, you know, sweep everything into one plea. And that's going to probably suffice for the feds because the feds are going to get young boy
Starting point is 00:13:43 in probably a sentence that's going to look at, I don't know, seven to eight, maybe nine years, could even be 10. honestly, it could be the max. Now, how does this go? This is going to be what's, we're going to see how this plays out. Number one, he has state charges for the drug stuff, the drug prescription.
Starting point is 00:14:05 He's probably going to play out to that too. I don't know if they could run the concurrently because there's a Fed charge or a Fed sentence and then state sentence. Usually they don't run concurrent. You have to do one after the other. But anyway, this is about three gun cases now feds have picked up on him.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And I don't know if they're going to count the house arrest as okay that's part of your incarceration young boy hasn't left the house in years so if they do count the house arrest as you know minusing years off his sentence even if they give him 10 he'll probably be out in like six right like the guy's been like literally on house arrest since the pandemic damn there right am i wrong like he's been on house arrest for a really long so again we'll see how that goes however uh he did uh let me see if i could pull it up. Young boy.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I'll read quickly what they said. Yeah, he was smacked with a second federal gun case before entering a plea. In the original case, they're saying that they, prosecutors filed a new felon in possession of a firearm charge against the rapper, right? You could tell they're being so petty because he's pleading guilty already in another district and they gave him another charge, right? Like, why not just go to his lawyer? saying hey listen
Starting point is 00:15:26 hey whatever the plea we were going to give you is going to be a little bit worse but you're playing guilty to this new charge as well of gun possession right but but they're trying to fuck him over definitely and i can't say you know they're just having an out for him i think they're also probably upset that young boy's been thumbing his nose in federal prosecutors face for a long time there was a time that young boy uh the prosecutors brought it up in court they said hey we We have reason to believe that the defendant who's on federal house arrest currently, he's taking drugs at an alarm in pace, and that might go against the stipulations about his
Starting point is 00:16:10 release. That might be a violation. Young boy basically said, I ain't going to stop taking the drugs. And of course, his lawyer comes with a backup to say, well, the drugs he's taken, he does have prescribed. That's probably one of the reasons, you know, they probably encourage, like,
Starting point is 00:16:29 state to raid the crib. Like, yo, nah, this thing is doing too much, right? So again, they were tired of young boy basically thumbing his nose
Starting point is 00:16:36 in their face saying, yo, y'all niggas can do shit to stop me, right? I'm rich as fuck. I'm gonna go get my 50,000 perks or whatever the fuck, or I'm going to do what I want.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Y'all not going to stop me. And clearly they're probably trying to show him a point to say, nigger, we will stop you and we have, right? Anyway, the chart stems from Golden's arrest in April. The authority said the rappers and others use fake names to the scam pharmacies across Utah and to provide them with drugs as part of a large-scale prescription drug fraudering. The court documents say Golden's arrest and the investigation revealed the rapper illegally possessed a Sig Sawyer, a P-365-9-millimeter semi-automatic pistol, and he's considered a felon as part of a 2016 shootout case. That's how he goes.
Starting point is 00:17:22 got introduced into the rap game. And he's banned from possession, firearms, and ammunition. He also faces a state charge in Utah, part of the same investigation before judges, blah, blah, blah, in Cade County, in Weber County, the next court days, whatever. The new charge was filed after Goulden agreed to have his 2020 Bann Rouge gun case transferred to Utah to enter a guilty plea and move forward to sentencing. In that case, this one was shooting the music video, okay? uh
Starting point is 00:17:50 golden must enter a guilty plea in that case now that has been transferred to Utah or else would be transferred back having the case move to Utah is strictly out of convenience okay the range of punishment for the charge is up to 10 years again I would imagine that he would try to lump this new charge into this thing that even if he gets seven years he gets it for both right so NBA young boy hold your head and uh I hope
Starting point is 00:18:14 once this is done this would be the end of his legal well I think we could probably safely say Kodat Black, I still think he has an addiction problem, but at least he's just not going back and forth to jail. This is probably one of the longest we haven't seen Kodak. Well, actually, is it? No, no, Kodak was locked up not to long ago.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I don't know. I'm trying to... Has Kodak put, like, all the jail fuckery behind him, or is he, like, still kind of, like, going back and forth there? Yo, you start to think about people like Kodat Black and be a young boy. You start to think what they could have been if they weren't spending half their time in a jail cell.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Like NBA young boy's work ethic is so great, but then you get to realize why his work ethic has to be so great when he's free because he's spending years or months in a jail cell where he can't do any record or anything like that. You got what I'm saying? So anyway, we'll see what happens with this new charge. But if you look at the affidavit, the reason why he's charged with possession of the six-order
Starting point is 00:19:17 P-365 of semi-automatic pistol is because it's supposed to be his girl gun and he literally told the cops yeah I've handled this gun a few times and they're like word okay all right thank you thank you man
Starting point is 00:19:32 okay did y'all see Joe Button Joe wouldn't waste no time man Joe Button responded to Carisha now Carisha was essentially clowning Carisha was clowning Joe for celebrating
Starting point is 00:19:52 So LL Kooj came to Joe Button's podcast Brought his pump-it-up plaque I guess LL-Coo-J has some type of Either executive role or some type of like You know stake in Def Jam So like he kind of came as an ambassador of Def Jam So he brought a plaque that Joe probably should have got years ago But he brought it now
Starting point is 00:20:11 So it's the official presentation of Joe of his black Carisha's seen that and start laughing at it because I guess she's saying, yo, this is a nigga who's criticizing my music. The guy who, like, his biggest song went gold 20 years after, right? So that was her thing and she was laughing at that. They kind of went back and forth and Carisha basically tried to say, well, really our issue stems from when you were talking on another podcast about me, my show, Carisha, please not coming back after the ditty, you know, allegations.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And you played a song called, or you sung a song like another one bites the dust, almost like you were celebrating my downfall. So me, I'm going to be petty as well. So that was her side. Anyway, Joe responded today. I hope this doesn't get the stream flag, because sometimes Joe should be actually flag. Let's see. Also, also, it has come to my attention.
Starting point is 00:21:14 attention that a few of you people out there think that it's key, key time because LL came and brought me my gold plaque for Pump It Up. Yeah. Get to it, nigga. Open the door. I'm a little slow. How slow? So I'm the last to know that there are a few of you out there that are laughing at that
Starting point is 00:21:41 gesture. And I want to. want to be clear, everybody can laugh. If you sit up here and you dish it, you have to be able to take it. Go ahead, Joe. I stand in that. I have said, by the way, don't worry. I gave Joel all the talking points to this man to this check.
Starting point is 00:21:59 That a bunch of shit about a bunch of people, my actions are not exonerated at all here. I am clear on why people fire at me and I'm willing to stand there. but to the people that know me just a tad bit better there's absolutely nothing you could say to make me think that LL KooJ bringing me my pump it up gold plaque to my fucking triple, triple platinum or whatever quadruple platinum podcast is an L. Hey, if pump it up sold one copy
Starting point is 00:22:33 and LL walked in here and said, hey, here's your one copy, you sold and I want to sit down on your platform and talk to you. The hip hop head that I am would take that to be the biggest of
Starting point is 00:22:50 W's because of my Queen's background and because of who I deem LL Cool J to be. Now while we all can laugh and if there's anybody that I hope would be laughing it is
Starting point is 00:23:05 young Miami with all that she has had to endure in the past year or so. I want to be clear I like young young Miami. I do. I want to be honest here. Don't pay it down Joe. You got to get at her.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And I think that she is a pretty good content creator. Say the good shit. Now slice her throat. Let's go. What we do up here sometimes when things end as a ritual is to play another one bites the dust. It's me. I'll take it. I'm a dick. I think it's funny. I just think it's a cool little segment when shit goes a ride.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I don't play it to personally attack anyone. And while I talk to Carisha, I'm not going to personally attack her because she is allowed to laugh. And I like her. I think she is funny. I think she is great. Yada yada yada. Yada. Qualify, qualify, qualify, qualify. The thing about laughter, I think, that she will soon realize is it's also a luxury. Laughter, I say all the time laughter is good for the soul. Slash, the flip side of that, laughter is also a privilege. So while I'm happy that Carisha is able to laugh because she's had a stressful year, I am a little surprised that she has found enough. time to laugh at anything. Talk about it.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Talk about it, Joe. I'm not going to call you out of your name. I'm not going to be personal. I'm not going to be disrespectful. I want to keep this professional and on the music. There we go. If Complex were to do a list of where all the female rappers rate, Carisha, you would be last on the list.
Starting point is 00:25:09 There we go. You would be drop dead last. on that list. Every female out there is wiping you down right now. And to the people that have lost, I'm saying this because Carisha put the laughing emojis over LL handing me my pump it up gold plaque. And do I believe pump it up to be a gold record?
Starting point is 00:25:35 No. And do I believe that everybody in the lunchroom can laugh at something that may be funny? No. No. most of the lunchroom could get a good chuckle, but Carisha was the very last person I expected to do this. Carisha, not only may you be dropped from your label right now,
Starting point is 00:25:57 but you are not allowed to put music out. There's nothing happening. I want to remind you that today I hear Pump It Up more than I hear you. Oh, no. So while you go on these social media rants and say that you were nine years old with Pump It Up Drop and now you're 30. You should be cautious of that because your record label today is saying to you
Starting point is 00:26:22 that they're not seeing any growth. Self-admittedly, the only talent that you have possessed in recent years is providing emotion, yet you're at a standstill. I'm not talking city girls. I'm talking you. And that's my problem when it comes to current, modern acts and the caricatures that you be.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Like, I view you as a science project. And I'm not talking city girls because I'm a fan of city girls. And I'm on JT's side in the breakup. But I love city girls. And city girls has accomplished a few. No, for real, JT came up here. This is why I had to,
Starting point is 00:27:08 I had to give Joe the sauce on my stream before. I gave him the ammo. I just dropped all the time. T, man. I was like, Joe, just watch it. Take what you need. Just, you know, get your dub. Get out of there. Okay? I said, all this. Flowing. He's amazing. Like, like, stop for a minute. I ain't stupid. I got to try to read between some of the social media shit. JT. came up here, skin glowing, hair glowing, knee-high boots, with a staff that didn't look cheap. She came up here talking that talk. She came up here with music circulating and everybody and everybody. And everybody,
Starting point is 00:27:44 up here absolutely loved her. Here's the kicker. J.T. also has a nigger with all the money in the world. Right. J.T. is with somebody. I fuck with J.T. throw the phone at that bitch in the war show, nigger.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah, I'm reping for mine. JT. got a nigger that got all the money in the world. And still, when the odds were against her, she got to it. She got to it. She got to work. She got to work. She got to work.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Niggas laughed. Oh, you do the small venue. Oh, you flop. Oh, yeah. She came up here and got real. Yo, our last project, it wasn't the greatest. And I had to go back to the drawing board and really find myself. I don't think Carisha has the time.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I don't think she has the time to laugh when it appears that she is going through an identity crisis. And that right there be my problem with y'all. I'm very familiar with this type. I'm familiar with the type that think they've been. became the dick that they helped came. I'm very familiar with the bitches that think they have bloomed into who they consumed. Oh, wow. You was running around here and you gave J.T. your ass to kiss.
Starting point is 00:29:04 That's a fact. You sat there with saucy Santana who even raps better than your ass. Oh, nah. You gave JT your ass to kiss. You said, I'm dating a billionaire now. Fuck that city girl. I'm off of it. We're not making no money.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I'm done Joe here. You told Shorty Dewak, you told Homeboy's ex that if you felt like it, you could get a Homeboy to get her on all fours and start sucking some dick or barking like a dog or some shit.
Starting point is 00:29:33 You also told Homegirl that because her carpet was fucked up, she was broke. And now when you start with me, you want to say protect black women. I don't want to hear none of that shit. You are the worst female rapper out there currently
Starting point is 00:29:48 and you don't. Don't write your own shit. These are science projects put together by people and companies with the best of the best surrounding them for them to get further. But as a standalone, nothing's ever happened. When JT went to jail, you kicked that shit, yo, I got to wait for it. The wait for it looks different now. Nothing was popping. You were on arguably one of the greatest fucking labels to ever exist.
Starting point is 00:30:16 next to who I would say is the second best group to ever come out of Atlanta talk about it yet you still find yourself in this position you was running around talking big big big big shit and I'm not mad what I'm mad at is that you tucked whatever you was mad at
Starting point is 00:30:38 like whatever I said that that drove you that drove you the wrong way or hurt your feelings you tucked it until you sort of like an opportune time. And somehow me getting a plaque is the opportune time to get your shit off. I don't really understand it, but I also don't think that you are the lawnmower with a steering wheel. Okay. I think Joe Handler's business, I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Unfortunately, even though I think Joe kept it above the waist, I think Joe spoke 99. percent towards the music and the music business, spoke towards talent versus untalented. She's a woman, and it's very easy for people to say, in America, you aren't supposed to critique a woman. Let's be honest, right? That's one of the reasons I ain't with that Kamala shit, because I like criticizing my president, and they're going to use the she's a woman thing. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:42 Anytime somebody uses that, it's the handicap that says you are a, you are a, man, you should not expect competency or expect what you would expect from a man from this woman. So, you know, I don't want to pile on to this young Miami thing. In actuality, Young Miami, after Joe, you know, just eloquently dismantled you, I dismantled you before. I actually want to offer you an olive branch. Okay. I do want to offer you an olive branch.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I feel like what's happening here is that we're talking too much at each other and no one's talking to each other and it doesn't have to be with me because your hatred for me because I ain't going to lie, I have soufflejo ass. I have really done it to you in the last year. So it doesn't have to be me, but if you do want to sit with me, I'm down. I say it should be mere Joe. Kreecha, I think you need to sit with people
Starting point is 00:32:53 who, you know, want to, you know, because you have a side and they have a side. And I kind of get your side. Your side is like, yo, y'all just hating on me. Yo, what are you talking about? Like, I'm some lazy bum chick. I sell thongs. Like, I sell candles. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Except half of the people who are criticizing you, their critique about you is you not caring about or you're not selling music. So I do think you should sit with these people rather than tweeting it out. Also, I do think that could only help you because where you are now, you're just a social media influencer. And I do think you want to do music. I don't know how passionate you are. I still think you enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I see you tweeted out that City Girls Act Up, which is written by Yadi, is six times platinum. So you're definitely proud about a music accomplishment. you probably do want to do music. No one's here to bully young Miami. And I actually want to give her some advice. Unless she's just like really egotistical or she's just really delusional. And I'm going to stop short with any ad hominive attacks. I think the reason why I think she should sit with someone, whether me or Joe,
Starting point is 00:34:17 is because we're talking past each other. we're calling her, we're criticizing her music career a lot. And she keeps talking about her career as this entrepreneur slash influencer. So we're talking like this. And, you know, we're just at the point of diminishing returns. There's nothing you can say about Carisha and her music career that will have any impact beyond what's already said mostly by me. even by Joe and a few others. So we could either talk to her and hope those conversations will continue to some positive,
Starting point is 00:35:06 positive movements or progression, or we could just keep ridiculing her. And I'm going to be honest with you, it is at the point that just musically. And by the way, I don't think she's necessarily a victim because, you know, she pops her shit. But when it comes to, like, music, like, there's, nothing really she could say back. And now it just kind of feels like we're just kind of dunking on dunking on her. When in reality, I think we just want her to understand, right? That's it. So I actually encourage her to sit with someone and, you know, whoever it is, she should do it. And hopefully she could have some synergy. And by the way, that conversation might show people a different side of her.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Because right now you're being painted to look like, or really, from everything I've heard, That's the truth. You're just unpassionate. Maybe the passion could come out in the conversation, right? Anyway, shout out to Caratio. You know you don't beat an op senseless when you started feeling bad for them. Like, I felt bad for her today. I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I got to throw her a life raft, bro. Anyway, have y'all seen this video? So, Carrable. and unfortunately is another female rapper who don't write she attempted to respond to Liliati at a festival she performed at today while performing one of the songs in the beginning of the song she started like the chant of
Starting point is 00:36:40 Who Ain't Right? Basically like almost like clowning what Yadi said about her not writing any rhymes And she obviously came out afterwards saying yo What would she say? She said, put it on your kid. I ain't write these songs, but it was two other songs, right? And then we, or I heard from a confidential source, that the Wayo Daddy track was actually written by Mitch.
Starting point is 00:37:06 So on the radar, Yadi, Wayo Daddy, Mitch, and I don't know who wrote the first one, but probably rest of sure, it's probably a writer. Anyway, this is what she said on stage. know I'm a music Okay. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Now, this was at a concert. I'm not going to lie, this is probably a little bit shady. So I apologize for even putting this up. But I had to show where she was performing. And let me tell you this. I think Yadhi is very pleasantly happy with what's happening to this young woman. And it's not, and again, this is not bullying. but if you feel like someone think their shit doesn't sting and they're hot as fish grease,
Starting point is 00:38:12 you almost want the world, the ecosystem to humble them. And I think that's kind of happening in Carrable. I don't know her personally. She might be, you know, well, Yadhi says she's not a nice person, supposedly other people back that claim up. But this is going to be a humbling process for her. And, you know, I do want to, you know, again, I don't want to just like put my foot on these artist's neck. I do want to send her a message as well, because there is light on the other side of this.
Starting point is 00:38:41 I think this is the process of you needing to be humbled because you were gifted a position that you never earned. You don't write. You didn't put in the work. You got gifted this position. It doesn't mean your career is done, but it does mean that the way you get through it is to put in the work. And this is going to be the difference between
Starting point is 00:39:04 if you want it versus if you don't. I mean, look at Drake. He's in his 20th year. Him and Kendra got into it. Some fans are doubting him. He's working probably harder than he's ever worked before. He's dropping more records than he's ever dropped before. Why?
Starting point is 00:39:23 Because even after 20 years of being the guy and 20 years of being successful, he still doesn't want to be like, oh, okay, on my 21st year, they don't fuck with me no more. So he's trying as hard as he can. So Caraboo is not over. But this, this now virality that you're experiencing, yeah, it's a little bit embarrassing, right? People now believe you don't write. And then they look at your concert crowds.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Nothing wrong with, you know, just starting off. But I imagine Yadi is sitting somewhere and saying, I hope she realizes what the fuck I was talking about. Let me give you an example. Yadi invited me to his Vegas show. I can't remember how long ago that was, but I went to the Vegas show,
Starting point is 00:40:21 and there's 3,000 people that showed up for Yadi. Yaddy allows concrete to open up for him. They go out one at a time, and she goes out last, and then after she performs like a song, to everybody all the concrete members join on stage and they perform like a couple songs then yadi comes on after they leave stage now it's easy to get a big head pause or an inflated ego in thinking how important you think you are when you show up to a venue that you didn't promote yet you might have like some social media following and yes your numbers might be going crazy on the gram
Starting point is 00:41:05 But you really haven't sold tickets because you don't have a product that people really believe in or has connected with people or you haven't built that fan base that they're going to show up for you to buy a ticket. They have for Yadi. So when she came out on stage, she came out on stage to 3,000 people who are Yadi fans. She starts performing. They're going crazy. It was 3,000 people in there. That will have you jaded. Oh shit
Starting point is 00:41:36 Damn Shit they was turning up for me Maybe at one point It was going crazier for me Then during certain parts of Yaddy said Maybe I am lit out here I'm the chick Shit
Starting point is 00:41:50 They're put me at They put me last on the cipher I get an Inflated ego It takes these moments To bring somebody like that Back down the earth when you're not standing next to Yadi
Starting point is 00:42:06 and concrete your crowds look like this nothing wrong with it if you're a new artist starting out but it is something wrong with this if you're walking around like your shit don't stink you're talking to people like they're beneath you
Starting point is 00:42:22 and you think you're the fucking reason why the lights is on in this bitch yes you gotta experience this hey humble yourself a bit those sold out crowds all that mosh pit shit
Starting point is 00:42:37 that you used to be performing to Yaddy gave it to you Yaddy stood next to you Yaddy was the draw So I look at this And Rather than keep shitting on this girl Redemption is down the road
Starting point is 00:42:56 Caribou number one You need to learn the right And I'm going to say this to all female rappers This wave I get it We can't criticize female rappers because y'all so delicate and special, but fuck that. If y'all are in this music shit, I'm not saying you can't use help to get a song or get a hook or maybe you get some verses written for you. Here's what's flagrantly just out of balance.
Starting point is 00:43:27 You have to learn to do the craft that you're doing. you have to learn to rap at least learn to write a verse or two for your damn self at least like at least know the basics that you could at least you know try to you get some help here help there then you could try to build on and if what Yaddy's saying is true
Starting point is 00:43:51 that for damn near every song she got there's a reference track she has some work to do so I'm saying that it's not the end of the end of the but here's here's one thing i would advise her with right you're caribou this is a chance to eat a little bit of humble pie if i'm you i do this hey guys i'm not saying make a statement but this would be my demeanor hey guys um yeah i'm not the best artist i'm working on my craft um yeah i probably took some things for granted being with concrete and Yadi, but also I'm a young artist learning things.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Allow me the chance to make mistakes and don't judge me only on my mistakes as a very young artist. Just encourage me to be better. Also, I'm a little sensitive at times. I'm a female rapper. So maybe at times I thought I was being bullied. But that was from my perspective. And I wasn't trying to make Yadi look like an asshole.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Not saying she got to get back. with Yaddy at all. Or, by the way, it don't sound like Yaddy won her back either. But I think this moment for her, if she just consumes a little bit of humble pie, shows that she's down to put in the work and be passionate, she'll be absolutely fine. But the hardest part with most artists is that ego. So we will see. All righty then. So, I don't know why recently I went to Dom's Lives Pays.
Starting point is 00:45:49 but Dom is live posted this and remember the guy who died YBC Duel chat you have to check this out you know this is an interview he did with Adam 22
Starting point is 00:46:04 before he passed away just check this snippet of the interview out yeah I want to tap you guys in I feel like you guys would sound amazing together oh is that right you go crazy yeah I'm gonna tap in
Starting point is 00:46:14 check out that song I just sent you yeah yeah I'm gonna look at it and you gotta bring me back man no jumper man I got some shit to say let's get it let's get it Let's get it next week. I ain't even going to lie. I got some shit.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Let's go viral. All right. I appreciate you, man. I ain't even going to lie, though. Yeah. That's what you want me to do. You want me to say some shit. I got some shit to say, too, though.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Fuck all the odds. Fuck C.C. Fuck L.M.G. Fuck 56th Street. Fuck. Fuck. Bell, mine. Y'all never got back.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Fuck. Fuck. No, 4. C. B. Taming, y'all. Look, fuck 38th Street. Fuck 30th Street. I ain't even go a lie. Fuck the dub, too.
Starting point is 00:46:49 and um who else i ain't gonna lie's me anymore fuck collar hill fuck parkside wait hold on now i know people want to blame adam for this but it looks like this is one of those situations where a black rapper gets on a white man's platform and just does what they accuse the white men of supposedly try to trick them and to do it yeah that's what you want me to do right that's what you want me to do what you want me to do what you want me to see some shit i got some shit to say too though. Fuck all the ups. Fuck C-CK. Fuck L.M.G.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Fuck 56th Street. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck Belmont. Y'all never got back. Fuck. Fuck. No, 4-4-C-B-Tamey. Y'all. Look, fuck 38th Street. Fuck 39th Street. I ain't even go a lie. Fuck the dub, too.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And, um, who else? I ain't go a lot as many more. Fuck Collahill. Fuck Parkside. Fuck Bud. Bluful bud. Fuck all the niggies. Fuck, aye. is the real disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I'm going to fuck. who you is, I will disrespect you. That's how I'm carrying it. I mean, guys just dis 10 huts. Like, your chat, you almost can't make this up. Like,
Starting point is 00:48:09 this is one of those situations that the cops might legitimately be like, you know, usually when somebody dies, it's easy to figure out who did it. Look at the person that we were beefing with last. Look at the person who hasn't liked them for years.
Starting point is 00:48:25 This thing is just did 10, just just 10 different blocks. What? That's a lot of ops. It's more or two. It's got to be like most of the city right there. I forgot the young boy from the back block. I forgot about him.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I keep forgetting about the young boy from the back block. But who else? I can't even remember. Fuck all them niggas though. Fuck 7th Street. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck deke Luke.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Fuck all them diggers. I ain't even going to lie. It's the real disrespectful. Y'all know what the fuck is going on. It's living up to his name. Mr. Justice's right. He said, right. His bitch ass, fuck me.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Hey, he said. I mean, damn. Anyway. Now, of course, unlike in the folio situation, you know, I hate to, you know, I was watching a Charleston White interview, and I kind of agree with him. And I have so much,
Starting point is 00:49:28 um, grace for folio. mom. So I do believe she's going through a lot. But I had to agree with Charleston White on something. You ain't a good parent if your kid grow up and start
Starting point is 00:49:43 disrespecting the dead. I'm just sorry. It's no way you could have been a good parent. You failed as a parent. If your child is running around digging up graves with a shovel on an interview
Starting point is 00:49:59 saying fuck 10 niggas blocks and He's smoking on this and that. Maybe as a parent, you didn't do something right. Because manners seems to be lacking at the very least. And, you know, he was saying that, Charles Marr was saying that about Fulio's mom. Because Fulio's mom is, she seems, you know, pretty decently, you know, spoken. She doesn't seem too ignorant. Like, she kind of seemed like a pretty okay person.
Starting point is 00:50:27 But when you think about what Fulio was doing is like, Yeah, the nigga was like antagonizing the dead, right? Anyway, YBC Dole's father, in the wake of his death, decides to post this on his page on Facebook. Hey, all of my son's friends and family, I am Dole's dad. I was handed over all my baby boy's belongings this morning by his close friends. And I wanted to clear up any confusion. My son Abdul Vix was murdered yesterday afternoon broad daylight while sitting in the back of his car along with his friend, who was also shot in the hand. My son was not on a bike when he was killed.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Nothing of that such. So the video going around is not him. Stop the false news. I know my son did not live a life of a saint, but I was not born yesterday either. My son was targeted in some setup plot. That's the only way they could get him from up close like that. I'm standing on that. For someone to be walking up so close to his car was the first red flag for show.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And I promise you, we're not going to stop till we find y'all dudes to y'all dudes are exposed. I spoke to my son the night before all this went down, and I just couldn't understand why this talk out of all days felt different. Pops has been weird. Pops has been weird cars passing by me for a week now. I don't know. Hold on me, please. It says Pops.
Starting point is 00:52:20 It's been weird cars passing by me for a week now. I don't know. I just feel weird whenever I'm in Philly. That's such a sad statement to say to your parent. It's such complex because, first of all, Philly is not a safe place. naturally, but half of the reason why he was a little bit paranoid about cars is because he dissed a dozen hoods.
Starting point is 00:52:51 So maybe a car that passed by might have someone driving that you don't get along with, right? So part of it is his own doing, but then also when you express to your father, Dad, I feel weird when I'm in Philly. Part of parenting should be, son, let's get you out of Philly. You got a little music career going on. Go stay in Jersey. Go stay in the suburbs in Jersey. Go stay in Allentown.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Let's get you away from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. And that's where I kind of look at a lot of this. Right? I'll continue. His father says, I swear whatever you was running from, son, they was watching you closely and I'm going to expose it. Man, I can't believe.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I won't ever believe this. And I ain't never going to shut up because I wanted you to beat the odds, son. I told you the streets, a nasty game, especially where we come from. Now I've got to bury my junior, my family. And I would like to thank everyone for the, love kind message sent out to my boy
Starting point is 00:54:19 we lost a real one may Allah forgive him for all his sins and make his grave spacious and full of light Amin inshallah rest
Starting point is 00:54:36 easy my son Abdul Kadir Vix my heart will forever have a black hole in it after this one parents save your kids from this life before it's too late because I can't even explain this feeling right now. Sad.
Starting point is 00:55:08 I've seen a meme. I've seen a meme. Can I find it? There's a meme that says fans have noticed that all three rappers, YBC Dole, Little Jeff, and Little School were killed in back-to-back months
Starting point is 00:55:42 after dropping a song together. I believe Little Jeff is from Chicago. I believe he's from Chicago. They hate me. They like me, or they do so. I, feel me like. They're paying attention and I make them feel some type of way. So if I can make you feel some type of way, I'm going to keep making you feel some type of way. Bro, all the real niggas fuck with me.
Starting point is 00:56:05 What little dirks say at this, at the end of that song? Like, real niggas fuck with me. Like, the street niggas can vote for me. Anywhere I go, nobody don't play with me. I never got robbed. I never got touched shot at in the city. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Now, it brings me to this other case. I don't know if I watched this video on here, but I think I watched it otherwise. Did I watch this video? video there's a character out of um there's a character out of a uh uh not let me not call my character but um there's a young man who got deceased out of chicago named little jeff who people felt like was he was mimicking exactly what king bond did a guy who had supposedly 11 bodies and now trapler ross did a video on this i'm not gonna um go through the whole Anybody following the Chicago?
Starting point is 00:57:03 Let's go through a little bit of it, okay? So. Coming into the 2020s, Jay Boogie and the rest of the Bloodhounds would keep reppping their new click in their... Okay, he does a whole like 45-minute thing on the, um, his, the guy's gang is called the Bloodhounds. This was followed and, you know, I'm gonna skip past a lot of shit. Here we go. Legit body supposedly... Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:34 You know that's crazy. Yeah. You know Jake Boogie. like like a slid like under my hood i was in the field and this dead like this look this look at this don't know how this don't play out they say he's um-huh but he trapped city what i'm saying what i'm saying what i'm saying that's like that's i'm saying like blood like we already know trapped city and drill city with the same um lucky and water like that's our family yeah so that chain incident really split it up
Starting point is 00:58:08 Was it something else before the end? It was a chain, man. It was a chain, man. They tried to steal a chain. He ain't take it. No, I ain't trying to limit his image. You know what I'm saying? I just feel like, when it came to, like,
Starting point is 00:58:20 when you wait, something's a real, because you know, we don't just move on situations. So we just feel like a lot of, like it was just dumb, the chain on my soul. Like, but I'm from our hood, being friendly, let them, away your chain.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Who does that? We may never know exactly what took place, but what does seem clear is that following Z Money's death, the Bloodhounds would cut all ties to their old friends around Trapp City and Chris World. And as Jeff would wrap in his feature on another Bloodhound rapper Hotheads, aka Tank on Tanner's song, Still Walking, released in November 2023, losing his cousin would also make him lose his mind,
Starting point is 00:58:51 with Jeff's focus from that point onwards, seemingly being one thing and one thing alone, a get back that he would allegedly get during the summer of 2023. Okay, so this is a little Jeff here. Some of you might not know him, he's a Chicago rapper. You know, a lot of people always, you know, they always bring up this Warren Shirek. when it comes to me. My heart fell out of doing Warren Shirek when I realized
Starting point is 00:59:26 I wasn't covering necessarily rap anymore. I was just covering murders. It didn't feel good. I started the Warren Shirek because I liked a few rappers. A little Dirk, Chief Keith, a little herbic A.K. Hervo now. A little bibby.
Starting point is 00:59:47 A little Reese, Rado Santana. I knew about the ancillary people. Now, I remember even the first time I did a video on D-Rose. I didn't want to do a video on D-Rose because these were street guys. They never rap.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Like, I'm the person, I get it, we have gangstas who have done real stuff and rap, but I never wanted to cover just crime. You know? But when I was, when I started to cover, and this is why it became the Warren Shirek. People said, well, you're not covering the Warren Shirek if you're not mentioned these ancillary people
Starting point is 01:00:27 who Chief Keefe is shouting out all the time. Chief Keith is this and little Reese is into it with him. And I was like, all right, you know what? I'm going to do it because it's kind of the context for the music we're hearing, right? Around like, I forgot the year I stopped doing it. bro these guys weren't even getting an established career enough to have a hit that anyone could know nationally
Starting point is 01:01:02 they were having these like maybe a local song they would get a song that's like a hundred thousand views which in the grand scheme of things no disrespect it's just it's just nothing these guys are dying they're just dying out and then i realized i was just like the music isn't even a industry or a thing anymore for what these guys are doing. These guys are living a life of gangbanging. When I see game, we're not talking about like West Coast gangbanging. These things are doing some GDK shit or whatever, and it's just a bunch of revenge killers, okay?
Starting point is 01:01:42 So I hear about this guy, little Jeff, but I haven't heard about a hit song from him. So when I start hearing about these things, I'm like, what the fuck? Anyway, let me play. So if you don't know who little Jeff is, the reason I mention the Warren Shirek story is because that's why I stopped doing a Warren Shirek. This guy gets a three-hour documentary and has never had a song touch the Billboard charts. This guy is now being heralded or looked at as some type of mythical serial killer
Starting point is 01:02:18 with no consideration of the victims, but all he did when he did interviews was basically clown. It was street shit. This really wasn't music shit. So anyway, let me play a little bit. When it comes to Lil Jeff and his alleged bodies, the rumors and theories tend to range from the absurd,
Starting point is 01:02:42 suggesting that he's truly a demon catching all of these bodies to pretty much complete denial that he ever killed anyone at all. But there's no doubt to me that Jeff was really in these streets, though. With several videos circulating on Q50s Instagram years later, showing that by 2024, Will Jeff was indeed a hardened gangster, riding around the city, constantly strapped with guns, ready to kill, at a moment's notice. However, it would seemingly be a process of several years before he would become the hardened gang member he was known as today. In one of the earliest YouTube videos covering Jeff's alleged bodies, his rum and murder spree
Starting point is 01:03:11 stretches all the way back to September 2014, with his first alleged body supposedly being an 18-year-old who went by the name Mali Marl, real name Kamal Burton, who was allegedly affiliated. with the H.A. Mob. Although the murder itself would take place in the far south side in the Altgeld Gardens community, at the time Jeff would have barely been a 12-year-old boy, seemingly gifted in basketball he would have been spending most of his death. See, this is the point where we're like, what are we talking about? This is a 12-year-old kid that supposedly catches his first body. He's training for a career in the sport. Also, according to a CPD spokesperson,
Starting point is 01:03:46 Marr was approached by two men who then opened fire. The idea of a scrawny 12-year-old Jeff being mistake for a grown man in this case, sounding pretty unlikely. But for further context, even Jeff's own brother, Boogie, would have still only been 16 years old at the time of Miles' murder, albeit he would arguably always look older than his age. In more time, we'll likely learn much more about Jeff and his younger years, as things come out. But when it comes to his deeds in the streets, it's likely much more sensible to take his own account of his childhood seriously. As he would recount in his DJU interview, Jeff would allegedly truly get in the streets quite late in his life around 2020, this being his last year in high school and graduation.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Around what age did you jump off the porch and start hanging out in the streets? I'm saying when I came outside, for real, for real, I was like 18. Okay. I just turned like 18. However, this certainly doesn't mean that Jeff's childhood was normal by any of broader society's standards. As Jeff would also open up to DJU saying that his father was not in his life growing up, as he too, quote unquote, stood on business. This perhaps being a reference to Jeffrey Harris' Seniors' alleged time in the streets with the 068 C block.
Starting point is 01:04:48 But say back then he went around. Says acting weird as shit, man, I don't know what he's doing. So how did that affect you back then, though? Not having pops around. O.G. stood on being it, so, you know, that shit, it matter for real. But moreover, as we know now, Jeff's big brother, Jay Boogie, had clearly been in the... eerily, exactly one month after the murder of Crewe on the 13th of April. Gutter would be caught on the 700 block of 79th Street, this location being a mere four-minute's walk from the intersection of 79th in Maryland.
Starting point is 01:05:21 One of the main spots that Jeff and other Bloodhound members have claimed in their music videos. However, when it comes to any actual proof that Jeff or the Bloodhounds were behind this murder, the evidence seems to be slim to none. With this particular case further muddled by the fact that Hit Squad would have another much more known member called Gutter too, who would unfortunately also end up losing his life. In this case in 2015, allegedly by the Bloodhound affiliated set MTV-079, whose members have commonly dissed at this gutter over the years too. Another less commonly heard name in this YouTuber's list is an alleged member of the Evans mob called the Black,
Starting point is 01:05:50 real name Roger Lewis, who was a 33-year-old OG of his block, shot dead in a drive-by whilst driving in March 2022. The only problem with this theory is that Black's alleged killer was in fact charged already the following month in April 2022 and is now serving his sentence for the murder. Also in 2022, Jeff would end up losing someone seemingly very close to him, a man named Jamari and Loston, better known in the streets, as Jamo, who was allegedly part of the 06679 alliance. There are some rumors that claim that it was this murder that motivated Jeff to catch his first body as revenge. him getting allegedly caught outside of a corner store or gas station, as Jeff and other bloodhounds have implied in several songs. Later on, there would also be some rumours surfacing online that
Starting point is 01:06:29 Jeff was supposedly even carrying out contract killings all the way in Milwaukee, with one shireacologist dropping a picture in the comments of Jeff hanging out with some alleged local gang members from Milwaukee, with this picture being from a music video of the rapper's Ghost, 5326, Super Throde Faye Faye, and KRAX, called Plenty Mist calls, released in July 23. This outfit, actually being the very same one that Jeff is wearing in his music video for the song N-Words B-12 released on March 2023. In fact, even now, KRAx still seemingly has Jeff as his profile picture on Instagram, which he likely changed following Jeff's death. Jeff and the other Bloodhounds would also later make several references to doing contract killings and to Milwaukee,
Starting point is 01:07:07 with J.B. Bin Laden rapping in the song Run But Can't Hide that also features Lil Jeff how the Bloodhounds have... But also many... Okay, he gives a lot of details here. Basically, He's saying that this guy was just killing people. The clapping of hands would eventually become somewhat of a trademark for Q50 when referring to killing ops or getting back for Z money. Y'all move out here. Everybody probably see y'all got the Z money tattoo on your face.
Starting point is 01:07:35 It's probably real noticeable. You know that. You see that stuff related. That's that get back from my man. You see that get back from my man. Y'all basically let us know who that. We see y'all keep his name alive. chance you guys that's my that's how I could and foe man folks could see four them
Starting point is 01:07:53 see for them real sandbox baby doesn't know like the impact he had on the hood that he did you see you see you see you see you see it turn on fain you see you see that hey look real lellis sure the fiddler's broadus it's right as a dad's look hey look hey look hey look hey look the same the same doc crap about members would soon enter the chat, aiming their disses, particularly at Q50, saying how he just came outside in 2020, and pointing out that he has Z money tattered on his face, but hasn't even known him for over five years, as well as saying that he used to be just a gamer, to which Q50 would once again respond simply by clapping. One of his ops in a bowl, this more specifically,
Starting point is 01:08:36 meaning a fishbowl, which is a reference to somebody being caught in a car with a Rob, changing their Facebook profile pictures to pictures of... So they're going through, supposedly this guy killing 11 people. I had enough, a mama's a star again, I'll type my sh-known right. My shit really fucking purse fuck with my head. Face ass, neck-ass, back-ass. It's also worth noting that D-Money was seemingly close with numerous members of Trap City and would do stuff like promote their music and wish as little as $3,000, along with a matching chain that reads Barthier,
Starting point is 01:09:06 which I guess would make sense for the Bloodhounds if they were swapping the C's with bees like old-school bloods when they were buying a chain to match the Cartier watch. But clearly, this was no 50 grand lick, and arguably such a small taking that the rubberer would certainly not end up being worth the consequences that would come soon after. As despite the low value of the items taken, it would be the damage to the ego of the person the items were taken from that would escalate the situation severely. Jeff too would seemingly later open up about these events saying that nobody took anything from him by force, but rather they ran off with them when he wasn't paying attention. Public service announcement on my dead, grandma, the head if I'm lying I'm down,
Starting point is 01:09:39 God could come pull me out this car right now. I never took a dollar from him. A n' nigga said, let me take a picture of this, that, and that, I look up, the n-kker then ran down. We all the way at the top of the stackcase first time. The-fitting-off, I look up, the-kaker taken off down the stairs with five more action. Oh, man. And I'm like, damn, I thought, I thought it was gangster. The whole time I'm right there, still walking with him.
Starting point is 01:10:08 I'm telling them, we could keep this shankton and be gazing. I got hurt seeing money, my fuck. I do what it's going to be to keep this gangster. Then, on January the 20th, a Chicago-based YouTuber, word from the trenches, would upload a vlog where he hangs out with the BKN members in their hood, with this vlog also including a member called Monty, who also goes by the name Drench, or Zahar, and who would allegedly be one of the people involved in Little Jeff's robbery. Who is right there? Dren, Dren, Dren, Dres. Mohamed Ashik describes diving for cover as bullets were flying, witnessing the aftermath, an emotional scene unfli. How much that is on your wrist right there?
Starting point is 01:10:45 I'm skimming through this. It's a three-hour-long video and, you know, we're not watching the whole thing. Hello, y'all. Hello. Only six days after the release of this vlog on Friday the 26th of January, 2024, Monty, and another member of BKN or Jungle, called Lil Rob, real name Robert Boston, would be attending the Innovations High School located in downtown Chicago. This is the saddest part about the whole thing. You often hear people in high school and kids. like they're killing children. If you ever want to get disgusted at drill music, you get to realize when they're telling you they're smoking on Tuka,
Starting point is 01:11:25 you get to realize how old Tuka was. When they're telling you that, you know, even like Jacksonville shit, yo, whether they're talking about Bibby or they're talking about whoever else, these are like kids. Like, they're not talking about like a grown-ass man. Like, they're talking about children. Cargo, more specifically in an area called Loop, and then close to 12.30 p.m., Monty and Lil Rob,
Starting point is 01:11:49 together with other students were seemingly heading out of the school, likely going on their lunch break, with one exit being next to the Washington or Warbush L train station, a very busy location, particularly during the lunch hour. Soon after... Yeah, like, no, and I mean to pause again, but it's like when... Yeah, it sounded cool in songs when they were saying they were smoking on Tuka, until you realized Tucko was a 15-year-old kid that got murdered. Now, if you're like 18, maybe you don't go fuck. But like, if you're like a 30 year old man, like it's hard to like get into music that's like glorifying killing a 15 year old.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Like this was your biggest op, 15 year old kid. Your biggest op was little Jojo riding on a bicycle. It just doesn't hit the same. Exiting the school building, two cars would suddenly pull up with several masked shooters hopping out of the cars and opening fire towards Montiore. and Lil Rob. After the shooting was over, someone standing on the train platform above the street level would capture the truly disturbing scene of the last moments of the two young boys who had been shot, whilst their friends and members of the public crowd around them in sheer shock, with some attempting to do what little they could to try and save their lives. Unfortunately,
Starting point is 01:13:01 there was nothing to be done, and both Monty and Lil Rob would later pronounce dead in the Northwestern Memorial Hospital, while a third unrelated victim would be grazed in her jacket, the bully fortunately missing her body. Not long after the shooting, the area would be bustling with local media who would interview witnesses that had seen or heard the shooting, including the woman who had just nearly missed getting shot herself. It went through my arm. During that shooting, Merenice Vargas says she was grazed with one of the bullets. I heard like four shots that was all.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Super anxious and sad and I was afraid that it hit me too by accident. Another witness would describe the shots being let off, sounding like a firecracker, perhaps meaning that at least one of the shooters was using the switch on their pistol. Like a firecracker, you know, like a... Something like a firecracker, you know, like a 10, 15 shot. Local shopkeeper Muhammad Ashik describes diving for cover as bullets were flying, witnessing the aftermath and emotional scene unfolding right in front of him. Everybody looking right and left, you know, over there has their people crying, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:00 kids crying, you know. All of this happening near Innovations High School where the two boys were students. Crisis responder, Andrew Holmes, speaking with the boys' families Friday night. The 16-year-old just had a smile that he kept a smile. The 17-year-old, you know, he was just trying to work. hard to just go into the trade business. Holmes furious like many other community members about the brazen events that unfolded. He says one of those boys would be celebrating a birthday in just weeks. You have no right to take another person's life like that. And you know, this is a brutal way.
Starting point is 01:14:32 This is cold-blooded murder. Mayor Brandon Johnson responding to the shooting, writing quote, My deepest condolences to their families and the innovations high school community as they grapple with unimaginable pain and trauma caused by this senseless act of violence. even the mayor of Chicago would comment on the senselessness of this attack, and the situation was so serious that it would actually be covered citywide on numerous Chicago news reports, including ABC 7 Chicago. As two families and a community warn the slaying of the teens, Chicago police continue their search for the gunmen responsible for the brazen, downtown, daylight ambush that claimed the boys' lives.
Starting point is 01:15:07 It appears to be business as usual just a day after two teens are gunned down in front of their downtown high school. Many of the bullet-riddled windows have been boarded up following the slaying of the slaying of 16-year-old Robert Boston and 17-year-old Monterio Williams. Friends say the boys knew each other and so did their families. Investigators say both teens were shot and killed Friday afternoon near Wabash and Washington Straits as they left school with a group of friends. The teens were students at CPS Charter School Innovations High School. That's when witnesses say a dark-colored car and a dark-colored SUV pulled up and mass gunmen got out and opened fire. Authorities say while some of the attackers got away in the vehicles, at least two of them ran away. The wounded students were rushed to an area hospital
Starting point is 01:15:48 where they both were pronounced dead. Investigators call the attack isolated and are combing through security camera video from the area. So far, no one is in custody and no arrest have been made. Police are asking anyone with any information to contact Area 3 police detectives. Already on the night of the 26th, the police would also give a press briefing on the investigation so far, showing that the CPD was likely taking this case much more seriously than an average south or Westside shooting due to the extremely central location of this double murder. First of all I like to start out by offering our condolences. Alright, anyway.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Bunch of deaths, sorry to say. Basically let us know who that too. We see y'all keep his name alive, it chants, y'all. That's Cush. That's how I could. Man, folks, cuss cuss. You see, four n'emps, you don't know, like the impact he had on the hood that he...
Starting point is 01:16:38 Did you see, you see him? Okay, yeah, I think I could play from here going on. with Q50, whilst humorously calling the stuff Tony Montana, making many believe that Jeff was in fact taking uppers, not downers, before describing himself as a functional cluck, meaning a functional drug addict. Yeah, yeah, but y'all not having no like, no, no troubles to where y'all got to f*** around go to rehab or not, right? Hell now.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Hell no. Shit, they go to deep. That's cluck. See, that's scratching your face. I'm a functional club. I can function. I can function. I can move and things.
Starting point is 01:17:10 You can do. And still there my. my everyday life. DJU would also bring up Jeff's supposed 10 bodies, asking why the internet is painting him to be such a monster, with Jeff replying how all of the rumors about him are just coming from Reddit, showing that Jeff was indeed well aware of the infamy and dedicated fan base that he was building amongst Reddit's hardcore drill fan community with his wild antics in the streets and on songs.
Starting point is 01:17:30 You want to know, I'm going to tell you right now why I thought you was from the UK, because they said, bloodhound, Lord Jeff got 10 bodies. I said, okay, well, he can't be in the rack then. This must be, you feel. in the UK, you know what I'm saying? Let's talk about the real Bloodhound Lord Jeff, right? Why do these folks on the internet
Starting point is 01:17:50 make you out to be this be this monster? I don't know, for their ass up in the head. So look, I just watched, shout out to S.N. TV, right? Street News TV. What's that? Let me cite my source.
Starting point is 01:18:05 He made a video about you. It says, Bloodhound Lord Jeff. Is he self-snitching or clout chasing? It's the video I watched today. And man, in the first 60 seconds of the video, he refers to you as an example of what not to do for the youth. He said, man, this guy right here, this is what y'all should not do. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:26 And he kind of broke down, you know, some stuff he found online. So, so, so, so where are these, you know, type of rumors coming from? The great man. That's coming out Reddit, man. That's how you found me, right? Yeah. That's got to stop, folk. This is not real.
Starting point is 01:18:43 You definitely heavy on Reddit, for sure. You get posted on there like almost every day. DJ you would also ask Jeff about him always having so many watches, with Jeff trolling by responding that really the people are just letting him have them. Another thing I picked up online from your social media activity is you'd be having a lot of watches. You see this. Man, this ain't more.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Why are you getting all these flat watches from? That's sweet. Okay. Free like that. So free. You be giving them to me. They just be letting them keep them type of shit. They like put them on.
Starting point is 01:19:17 I just keep them. They be friendly here. Word. I see. He's still on your restaurant. So it was a situation where a guy tried to get high and he lost his watch. Nah, who, who, what's time? Oh, he read that shit.
Starting point is 01:19:31 I don't read it. Yeah, yeah. You see, some of that shit, you got to tell you. Oh, no, no, but they, you know, they picked it up off your video. You said that you tried to get a $10, uh, whatever you're called. I thought he was saying I was trying to get hot. I'm trying to get out. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Oh, yeah, man. What's been saying about that? Yeah. That went about it for real. What? He let me see this. Yeah. Feeling in a big Airbnb.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Andre, what you want? So basically, while all this killing and robberies going on, these guys, this guy career, little Jeff, has taken off a little bit because he's getting the attention of labels. The music clearly is like taking off. Driving in fancy cars. They got us. What's your on, man? Free falling out.
Starting point is 01:20:33 I go jail car, free the guys, man. Shopping. That's all we're doing, we're leaving. We just have to make this. We're forcing for the camera out. and for the camera out. Say it right now. Get that day enough.
Starting point is 01:20:57 You can say that enough. And of course, hanging out and recording new music in the studio. I got to get close again. I'm not going to sit. Do the go. Ah! Ah! A dime are on the way.
Starting point is 01:21:14 The next to the new white T-a-Bose. One M on the way, you had 300 K. You got 300. honey 300,000 views on that eyes Jamie Foxe the vlog ends with 12th of May whilst the party seemingly being planned
Starting point is 01:21:35 for Saturday the 11th you ready to go back home you know that party on Saturday for a school birthday unfortunately the day after Scoom's birthday party and on the actual day of his birthday on the 12th of May another young man would lose his life this man being a 22 year old named Khalil Dunbar who was better known in the streets
Starting point is 01:21:51 as an alleged member of the H-ray mob called baby KD According to news reports, KD had been in an alley near the 10800 block of South Indiana Avenue, this area being far away from the hood of the H-ray mob, when he was shot in the neck and taken to the Christ Medical Center, where he would later pass away. KD. had seemingly been close friends with both Clay and True, the H.R. members began to collect his toes now because he can no longer count with his fingers, before simply update.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Jeff would soon seemingly begin to claim this murder as well, as he would go on live on Instagram and officially update his body count, saying that he's on his toes now because he can no longer count with his fingers before simply stating, F it, it's 11. how he's up eight now. Whilst back in March 2024, the number had seemingly still been just seven. After supposedly coming back
Starting point is 01:23:11 for a quick birthday bash and a murder, Jeff would then soon head back to LA to continue living the rapper lifestyle again with Verde and Scoom, this time, right in time for Verk's birthday, which was on the 26th of May. During this trip, Jeff would end up linking with several Chicago drill legends, including Rico Reckless and G Herbo.
Starting point is 01:23:26 We're the rappers, he's rap the rapist. That rapper, rap, we're rap. Ain't no duplicating this Christmas. We kill you for real. I say, get this one right. I'm gonna get this man.
Starting point is 01:23:40 They're different, they ain't, they ain't kinda drag. We raping. We're rapping. We shripping. The new. They did what they did, man.
Starting point is 01:23:48 We mabbing. Ain't a light right up. I'm gonna get out the phone, though. He would also be shooting music videos with his manager AMF, one of these being the music video for the song LAX, released on May the 28th. The song itself being a tribute to the city that Jeff returned to after allegedly catching his 11th.
Starting point is 01:24:08 where Jeff once again aims dissers at Monty saying how he turns Zah into Zah, with this being an obvious play on one of Monty's nicknames being Zah, and with Zah, also referring to a strain of high-grade cannabis, as well as likely being a reference to the vlog, where Monty himself says they call him Zah, and he'll smoke your dumb ass like some Zah. Hey, I already know my name, Dre. Zah, they copy Zah, I'll smoke your dumb like some Zah. The song itself racked up 25,000 views in its first day of uploading, which isn't superstar numbers, but telling of a genuinely engaged core fan base
Starting point is 01:24:38 that Jeff was cultivating at the moment. Jeff was showing potential in music, but his lyrics were so demonic, it was hard to imagine his story ending any other way than tragedy. Unfortunately for him, soon he would end up in the sort of situations that he always rapped about putting other people in.
Starting point is 01:24:50 And just like his ops, soon the whole world will be logging onto the internet to see the demise of the latest killer drill rapper in 4K. Lil Jeff's strategy of bragging about his insane body count in his songs and acting wild in his interviews was picking up steam. He'd already been going viral for his clip sniffing a pill on DJU and on the first of June,
Starting point is 01:25:13 a YouTuber called Blender bars dropped a video that was reposted on Reddit, claiming that Lil Jeff had indeed claimed his 11th body during his LA trip, claiming that he indeed did a drill between these two trips to Los Angeles and being one of the earliest exposés of Lil Jeff's staggering stats as a Chicago gang assassin. He claims to have 10 bodies at least, and we have lyrics to match up with two of the bodies that he proudly claims after the ops supposedly hit a lick for some of his watches. By June 3rd, his music video for the track should have saw it, had a hundred nine thousand views, passing 200K the following day. Jeff was having the motion in music, and whilst this was only the beginning, he clearly had a lot of potential in the rap game. Unfortunately, however, as he often rapped himself, he was always more focused on the streets than the music,
Starting point is 01:25:58 and only a few days later, he would end up on the wrong side of the sort of drills. He usually was dishing out on the streets. On the 8th of June 2024, everything came crashing down for Lil Jeff and the Bloodhounds in dramatic fashion. After countless lyrics about jumping out of the car, As soon as he sees his ops and shooting at them, the 8th of June was a day like no other. And in surveillance footage that was later leaked, we saw this was another day when Jeff, Q50,
Starting point is 01:26:19 and another man indeed caught one of their ops. Jumping out of the car outside of an address on South Rhodes Avenue, a street that Jeff and his friends had boastfully wrapped about shooting up numerous times before. In the footage, if you look at the very top left of the frame, you can see a door of a car opening. This is Lil Jeff jumping out of the car, and he immediately begins shooting at a man, wearing bright yellow shorts,
Starting point is 01:26:36 who ducks behind a car and runs up a porch into a house, whilst being chased by Jeff, who continues shooting at him. He would then seemingly be chased by Jeff, wearing a black Nike Tech hoodie and grey Nike Tech joggers and pointing a gun, with Jeff doing something that he had indeed wrapped about doing numerous times, chasing an op into their own home. But at this point, Lil Jeff got something he didn't bargain for. As someone inside the house would begin to open fire on Jeff, neutralising him before he even made it up the steps, sending him flying back onto the ground at the bottom of the porch.
Starting point is 01:27:01 And here on the ground, Jeff was reportedly shot numerous times, with the implication being that his shooters emptied a whole magazine into him from a top porch. Then, we would see another angle from a different camera which recorded the sounds of the shots being fired into Jeff, as well as showing Q50 and another shooter, as well as the driver on the hit behind Jeff, walking to the porch and returning fire, with Q50 seemingly shooting at a passing car for some reason, likely in this moment earning himself an attempted murder charge. Some have suggested that the original target that Jeff had chased was talking to the person driving in the car that Q50 was shooting at as it drove past. Meanwhile, once the driver
Starting point is 01:27:32 of the getaway car notices that Jeff has actually been killed on the ground, getting out to look, before all the men realized that it's too late to save Jeff. running back to the car, getting in and fleeing the scene without Jeff, as shots continue to hit Jeff laying on the ground. Interestingly, another camera angle would later surface, showing that when Q50 initially ran towards the porch, he slipped over and fell as he tried to let off shots, injuring his ankle, with Q50 being seen with a limp as he ran back to the car. While Jeff was laying on the ground, he would reportedly be hit 19 times, and an insane total of 58 shell casings would ultimately be found at the scene of the shootout. And after it all went down, reports of the shooting would begin to circulate on Twitter, and police scanner audio would describe a chaotic scene. A later video by YouTube a loyalty and betrayal would actually do a full breakdown of the scanner audio.
Starting point is 01:28:12 3.02, Sam, we're hitting 12 rounds, 6.6.3-9 South roads. Trade 10. Anybody going there and be careful that might be crossfire. And anybody heading over there to roads, you was caution that this may be crossfire and now we get a person shot. 6-6-47 South roads. 3-0-6-7. We got multiple basings on 6-6-41 South roads. on the front porch and the sidewalk. Multiple showcasing, 6641 South Rose, on the front and the sidewalk, on the front porch as well.
Starting point is 01:28:48 6641 South Rose. All right, they're saying somebody doing a self-transport right now. They're telling my partner on the phone. We're trying to figure out what car took them. 306 Adam. Yeah, 306 Adam. One of the residents at 6641 says they threw a guy in a car and they're on the way of the hustle.
Starting point is 01:29:05 I got some blood drops on 660s. 641. Black SUV, Adam, Lincoln King, 3937, Wisconsin Place, just dropped off a victim at UFC. They're going northbound on Maryland. A black SUV with Wisconsin place, Adam Lincoln King, 3937, northbound Maryland. UV, Adam, Lincoln King, 3937 with Wisconsin place. They just dropped off a victim at UFC.
Starting point is 01:29:32 That was shot. And that vehicle stolen. Footage would later circulate showing the Chicago police combing the crime scene, placing a whole bunch of evidence markers where the many shell casings had been left. But interestingly, at the crime scene, Jeff's body was notably absent. That's because apparently Q50 and the other man seemingly took Jeff's body to the hospital after the shootout, somehow managing to spin the block, coming back and retrieving Jeff's body from the porch where he died without taking any more bullets themselves.
Starting point is 01:30:00 An image would later go around online, which seemingly showed Q50 and the other man carrying Jeff's body into the hospital. But it didn't take long for the dust to settle on the actual shooting before the footage of the shooting begun circulating on Reddit Shireakology subreddit, where many were quick to give their perspective on this wild modern-day shootout captured on camera, with many suggesting that Jeff and the Bloodhounds
Starting point is 01:30:18 had actually underestimated their opposition and ended up outgunned after being overzealous. As one commenter put it, honestly, the video puts it more out of the actual perspective of what it looked like in real life because cameras only see a certain angle. They actually were only like 20 foot behind him with the car being like 80 foot of most.
Starting point is 01:30:34 They were behind him, he just ran ahead and got overzealous and got blasted for it. sight is 2020, my G. Grunted, they did turn back the minute they realized there was more opposition than they thought, but by that point they were in a full-blown shootout. Dude in the red got hit, and they were in the middle of the road with only cars for cover. Once they realized they were outgunned and got to the car is when Jeff got fully over killed, and the dude in the white saw it all and let the switch off a few times in a futile attempt. No one's fault but Jeff, and he literally got instant karma. For those that knew Lil Jeff and his activities in the streets, they would
Starting point is 01:31:02 know what was to come next. The day after his death, on the 9th of June 24, Jeff's close family members and friends would react to his death with heartbreak, with some saying that they were staring at his picture in disbelief and saying that his brother Jay Boogie is going to lose his mind when he finds out the news. Jeff's dad posted throwback images of Jeff with his half-brothers together with the caption, F the World. Q50 would say that his brother and twin is gone, but he's already done crying and planning to do exactly what Jeff told him to do. Vert would later discuss how Jeff's death affected him in a DJU interview, where he seemed a little intoxicated and slurring, explaining that everything was still going on.
Starting point is 01:31:32 We saw, I guess, what happened on camera, whatever. Little Jeff lost his life. How has that affected you, you know, since? That's, you know, it's my brother. You know what I feel? This shit hurt. It's my brother, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:44 It's like, I can't stop for it. I'm going to stop for it. They want me to be steady on, you know? This shit don't stop. I don't still go on. Better going to live through us, you know? And my brother, I feel with a big face pendant of my show you. You know what I'm going to right there.
Starting point is 01:32:00 At some point, a vigil and Bloom release was. held in Jeff's honor and a day later on the 10th of June a bloodhound member would say that all the op saluted Jeff for the work he put in on the streets and hinted towards revenge coming soon and Jeff's dad would even respond on Facebook with an eerie post saying let it be known this is why imagine your dad posting this after you die y'all didn't get him he came trying to get y'all and what happened happened but the saga continues clear the streets with some in the comments in disbelief that a father would be talking about his son like he was one of his homies in the gang branding imagine your dad said clear the streets after you die
Starting point is 01:32:32 Basically saying that, yo, whoever is outside about to get shot. Jeff's father, a goofy, who actually failed his child. But Jeff's dad wasn't the only person with a connection to Jeff acting tough online. On the 18th of June 2020... All right, all right. Enough, enough, enough. Okay, so, yeah, this is like a cycle we're seeing where these rappers are not even getting a hit. Honestly, they're not even really focused on rap. They're building like this cold following from people seeing how real they are.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Music is a par at best, and people are just kind of like following the train of thought of what the fuck is going to come next. So it is what it is. Anyway, rest in peace, YBC dual, and also rest in peace to a little Jeff. But these weren't like some guys who were like, you know, just being upstanding men in society.
Starting point is 01:33:19 They were just doing their thing, right? Should we talk about this 6-9 thing? I guess it was half some promo. So 6-9 dropped like a music video. I guess with this new female artist. I forgot her name. Regardless, here's the point. He used to be with Ann Well's girlfriend or Annwell's baby mom.
Starting point is 01:33:48 I don't know if he's still with her. I don't have six nights doing this himself, but there's like a bunch of sex tapes between, you know, there's sex dates between him and Jade that got released and sex dates between him and this new girl. I really have no. idea what the fuck six nine got going on like trust me i just don't even want to enter that world of even trying to figure out um some of the the popular media media figure media figures in that world
Starting point is 01:34:22 has said that six nine basically drop revenge porn of him smashing annual's baby mama and like five other girls i i might not even know about that let me let me get into this bullshit okay all right all right I guess we go over the poor sheisty shooting a shot, but that's not really anything. Shout to this brother right here. It looked like, you know, maybe Dirk's, you know, if you guys don't know, Dirk recently is in an interesting spot.
Starting point is 01:34:56 So he spent the last few years kind of like promoting and clowning the ops and been promoting death and violence for a long time. But he basically, he hasn't dropped his flag, but he's more claiming that he's a Muslim these days. and that he's spiritual and that, you know, he's moving very different these days. And what's happened is that his music and his message is very different. Instead of waging war, he's actually pushed for some peace. And he wants to use everything, you know, his status in Chicago by trying to like, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:28 stop the violence rather than continue it. Clearly, you know, we've seen him shout out, like, for example, somebody who he shouldn't be cool with, which is like FYBJ Maine, shout him out on, on, on. on the track and the reactions were mixed. People from Chicago who are supposed to be Dirk's homies, they don't like it. They're like, yo, whoa, nigga, we get it that. You got rich and you don't need to do all this shit,
Starting point is 01:35:55 but why you shout out the ops? So Dirk is in a really interesting position, but he seems like he's doubling down on, I'm trying to stop violence. And I understand I was part of the problem. I'm now trying to be part of the solution. It looks like some of his message, right, has gotten through to some of these young men, and it's affected this guy here, who apparently is a dirt fan.
Starting point is 01:36:18 But the message of, yo, let's start pushing peace in these community. Basically inspired this guy to go to a church and this will happen. Every man that's in your life is not going to walk out of you. Yep, they're not. They're not. We are here. Yup, we are here. We're not going to abuse you.
Starting point is 01:37:00 We not want to hurt them. We love you. Now, it made me uncomfortable for you. Push you away. You're like, man, they get on my nerve. Good. You don't help me? I'm going to need your help with this.
Starting point is 01:37:28 I'm going to need your help with this one. Okay? I thought this was important, man. Like, these days, I feel like church is like an afterthought to so many people. you know, we don't hear about religion. We don't hear about none of these things that are usually in place to kind of guide people morally, keep them out of trouble, and also, you know, teach them the ways of making better decisions. So I actually just like this.
Starting point is 01:38:03 And some people were saying, well, Durkane, who inspired him, whoever inspired this young man, I thought it was positive to show this on camera, okay? A few other things, man. In the slow section, the special ed section, we get Meek Mill, the gangster reform nigger. Apparently,
Starting point is 01:38:28 the guy who brags about, you know, he got switches, this and third. After the death of YBC Dill, he's now saying, if you talk about your own dead ancestors, you curse your own soul. Stop speaking on the dead.
Starting point is 01:38:43 I haven't seen it work out yet. It's spiritual for show. We don't have to do the same spiel on Meek Mill. I don't know why Meek always feel like he's like the voice of reason. This is the same guy who has promoted death, spinning the blocks, clapping your ops, putting your ops where they deserve to be under the ground. He's promoted death violence and a lot of gun violence for the longest. But when something happens, he's the first one to jump out and say,
Starting point is 01:39:15 We need to switch us up. We need to stop doing bad. We need to stop this behavior. And, you know, again, just wrong messenger, if you ask me, why, here's the thing. And this is why, you know, and by the way, I don't want to make this meat mill specific. You know, nobody wants to hear the OGs. And I don't know if Meek is an OJ affiliate at this point. But whatever, like, nobody want to hear y'all condemn murder dissent third when these guys,
Starting point is 01:39:47 Half of them, they don't really have musical talent like that. So they're doing all this bullshit, but they're doing it also because they're seeing traction and rewards for it. If you're now this vocal after the niggas died, maybe you could have put your hand around him while he was an active member of either the rap game or just being in Philly and try to guide him before he died. You know what I mean? Now, again, I don't know if he was talking specifically about YBC Dillon on this one. But that's my only thing with me. It's like, bro, you know these guys look up to you, right? You know the message they have gotten from you, even though you're not living that now,
Starting point is 01:40:23 is that, you know, be ignorant, murder, murder, kill, kill. And rather than giving a statement about what's now making the media, bro, you have enough cashier you could pull these guys to the side, really talk to them, and try to make a change there. These, like, tweets, I don't think they do anything to help anybody's situation. just me personal but anyway shout out to me though
Starting point is 01:40:51 shout out to me let me hear this now remember they were killing me a couple weeks ago for this point about Gloria now a woman is saying that now everybody wants to listen here we go
Starting point is 01:41:02 I am kind of disappointed with Glow and I was scrolling this morning and seen the video that she just dropped the remix with skill of baby mama or whatever and it's like you know you're standing there just completely nude at the top
Starting point is 01:41:16 and you know you just holding your chest which to me she looks extremely uncomfortable looks like she's completely out of her element they are really trying to s black women out all they want us to represent is our bodies they sexualize us and the only thing they want us to put out is our bodies our sexiness is everything is about our bodies our looks just the sexual energy like gorilla didn't even need the sexual energy. She was so cool the way she was her corollary. But to see these two girls go from how they were to how they are now, it's like, I can't help. But to just say this, this stuff is true. I'm kind of disappointed. Now, I said this before. I said we were supporting Glorilla when everybody
Starting point is 01:42:02 thought she looked like, she basically looked like a teenager, a little bow wow. Like, she basically looked like Sid from Ice Age. We never looked at her and be that, oh, she has big titties now her songs make sense. Like, it was very cool. I'm actually going to disagree slightly with this because I do believe that there is pressure in the music business for an artist, especially a female artist, to sexualize yourself. It puts them in a weird place where, like, historically, that's just how they market women through sexualization.
Starting point is 01:42:37 So I'm going to agree there, but part of me is believing that, man, Gloria, like, did you just see how Gloria look at F and F like she looked rough bro and I'm not dissing her just what it is Florilla FNF if you look at her in this video like she kind of look a little rough I think she was just always too broke to look like a bad bitch and she wanted to look like a bad bitch
Starting point is 01:43:01 now she could buy tities now she could buy some good clothes so I'm gonna give her a pass for that now granted that me personally I think the majority of her fans I don't think the sexualization of her helps the music go at all. I think if her music is good, it'll go, if not it won't.
Starting point is 01:43:19 Like, nobody gives the fuck about necessarily how attractive she is to move records. But this could have been her own choice, and I'm not going to knock it. Br, like, if she was walking around the hoods like this, and now she got a couple million, and she want to look good with, you know,
Starting point is 01:43:37 getting her tities done, getting this done, this and third. I'm not going to knock it. Not going to knock it. But I will say Her original aesthetic matched the music Like she could have cleaned it up a bit But it matches the music
Starting point is 01:43:51 More than this whole sexualization shit But you know To each his own To each his own So I actually definitely agree with this Ice Spice is like on the other end of the spectrum I think when she sits in label meetings Or maybe she doesn't like maybe her manager
Starting point is 01:44:08 They're like yo How could we sexualize you more That's what we're selling. Like we're selling your sexualization. A lot of men want you. And we could parlay that into them, listen to your records. Now you have to talk sexy to send her. And Gloria, like, you know, she, of course, she talks, you know, all our records regularly.
Starting point is 01:44:28 She'll, you know, obviously she came out with a song. I'm FY, whatever the fuck she says. She says she fucked nigger free. And that was a song that worked for her. I think she just kind of want to look good, bro. But I do think there's some pressure to her to sexualize herself. I just know it won't work. Because nobody on earth is looking at Glorilla and saying,
Starting point is 01:44:56 okay, the music ain't working. And I'm pretending. Let's say the music ain't working. They're like, oh, we don't care if the music works. We just want to look at your body. Like, she's not sweetie. So that's where I'll draw the line on. She's just not sweetie.
Starting point is 01:45:08 You get what I'm saying? You're surprised. Guys, uh, um, Ice Spice and drop an only fan's page? Uh, well, you gotta drop only fans page? Yeah. Like, she's, she's still doing a thing. Oh, this is her right here, co-signed and boss mandilo. D.L. Yeah. You know, modern day female artists are like strippers, bro. God damn strippers. Not gonna lie, me, man.
Starting point is 01:45:41 All right. all good um yeah i guess we should cover that that pushaise topic so pushaisee he's cooling in jail but you know my boy he's shooting a shot that when he come out he got one now we all know that carty b's going through a divorce
Starting point is 01:46:00 a lot of people feel like you know um uh offset is fucking up again it's a cheating that's happening and after announcing that she's not only going through a divorce but you know she basically announced that she's pregnant with a new child. She went on Instagram live and Poo Shise's account, gotten in the comments and said,
Starting point is 01:46:19 I'm five minutes away, babe. Open the doors. Now, Offset reacted to that with a bunch of laughing emojis. And I got him. I'm co-signing Offset on this one. Bro, Pushaisty, listen, nigger, you're in jail. Man, them fat, greasy COs, they ain't probably cutting it for you.
Starting point is 01:46:40 But leave that man, wife, alone, man. Y'all niggas need to go find y'all'all all in this music industry. I think it's a weird nigger behavior if you're in this industry and you want to go fuck another girl that you know, even if you're not cool with them. Bro, you may at one point have to be on a show with him. Like, this is somebody, like treat hip-hop like a workplace. If you want to fuck Cardi B and you know of offset and you're doing music, you're a weirdo. I'm being honest. I'm being honest. honest with here. Like, come on, bro. So I think this is him bored in the cell. And I, and honestly, I think tax tone is kind of like, you know, tax tone is a nigga who is, who is, who was
Starting point is 01:47:22 reminding me that I never knew jail niggas was that free. Like, how to fuck is, is tax tone on spaces every day, nigga? Like, I'm almost at a point. I might have to go call to jail. Like, nigga, how's this thing on spaces every day, bro? You know what I mean? Like, what is he doing? So, but apparently the inmates be free as a motherfucker. They're lurking on every, on, on every, um, live. They're watching every Instagram post. I'm hearing niggas from jail usually like posts quicker than niggins who free. So,
Starting point is 01:47:48 it is what it is, but who shys he needs to focus on finishing this time? Leave Offset wife alone. Offset, I think, reacts to this right way, just laughing out of it. Like, come on, bro, like, yo, here's another thing, too. You know, and I remember speaking to Cardi about this. Cardi cannot cheat on offset.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Cardi said this to me. Cardi said this to me. Cardi said, yo, you know if I go fucking another nigga, right? That nigga is probably going to, you either extort me or at some point when I'm not in his benefit, he's going to snitch on me. And if it ever came out that I cheated on offset, it's just going to be so embarrassing, not only for our family,
Starting point is 01:48:25 but for his career, but even mine. So, you know, I don't think that I don't think that I'm, I definitely don't believe that Cardi B would be entertained us at all. But it kind of comes down to it. And by the way, I don't think Cardi B is leaving. an offset. Like, yo, offset, bro, could you go like six months without cheating on this woman? Like, nigger, just ask for a whole, like, yo, there's a divorce, there's this. They're not going nowhere, but it's like she can't get through it to this nigger because it's like this niggas is adamant about, like, still fucking other bitches.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Offset, just go like six months without cheating on this girl, bro. Like, come on, bro. Like, she's not about to leave you, but she's trying to scare you. she's probably filing paperwork like how many times she she like you know five for divorce like three times now she ain't leaving you bro but she wants you to act right my nigga like get with the program who's she made focus on you coming out uh i've seen people reacting to this videos which is our mike jones performing his hit from back in the day the song is ironically called back then
Starting point is 01:49:45 a lot of people point out like yo there's nobody in the crowd oh yeah i couldn't see it let me let me um refresh it again all right i see a lot of people who are talking shit and you know basically saying he's performing for nobody damn this is when i realize like people have like zero lack of just knowledge and understanding bro bro This was clearly, right? This was clearly a corporate event. Now, if anybody works in entertainment, and for corporate events, weddings, and special events like that, you get paid more.
Starting point is 01:50:55 So I know people keep looking at the crowd size, but unless you own some Donald Trump shit, like, bro, it doesn't matter how many people are in the crowd. He's getting paid his full rate and probably 30% more because it's a corporate event. Yeah, I can't tell us it's a corporate event. Look at the people who are watching them. It's niggies in their 40s who look like they're saying,
Starting point is 01:51:17 oh, maybe my kid knows you, but I'll just record you just to see. So I don't think this is embarrassing at all. This is a corporate event. Yeah, you don't see no kids in the audience. This is clearly, you know, some team building, team bonding, bullshit or whatever. So, yeah. I actually don't think there's a problem with that at all, okay?
Starting point is 01:51:50 Don't think there's a problem with it. All right. Am I like, am I getting low on topics? I don't know why I just started feeling tired, nigga. Powered through this bitch. Put some respect on who? What the fuck is Usher? Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Yeah, how the fuck Usher ain't age in like 20, 30 years, bro? This shit don't make no sense. Usher don't age, do he? I think it's that herpes in his vein, bro. You know, you got that herbs. Like, bro, I think that's what's happening to him. That herpes in his blood is making a move like a vampire. This thing is still looking young as shit.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Oh, my God. Ain't Usher like 50? Ain't no way he's supposed to slap a six-back. Usher allegedly got that herb. Do you think the chick's saying, oh, my God, would even tell him to put on a condom before he fucked her? Fuck no. Fuck, no, man. Sludes my niggum.
Starting point is 01:53:23 Keep doing anything, my boy. All right, man. This is a bunch of, like, shade room shit. Did I exhaust my topics that quick? Like, we're two hours in. Let's talk about hair, you guys. What do we think about it? I have a beard.
Starting point is 01:53:44 I think that no matter what color you are, you should be able to wear braids and any other styles of anybody. All right. I do not want to get into no deep shit like that. Oh. Oh, I want to... I talked about this already.
Starting point is 01:53:56 The coil array and... really do i not have no topics this is why i can't stream every day hmm all right chat i'm going to discord yo y'all pop up on me in discord i'll just uh i'll just talk to y'all fuck all that fuck the topic list here we go um you guys could move y'allself in here please i gotta figure out how to do a stage in here
Starting point is 01:54:30 how do i do a stage where like people could come up like subs or like members on on the account Academy channel could like come up and like y'all could bring up a topic and and and potentially debate me on it anyway if you guys are in the discord um just ask a mod to move you to to the channel that I'm in which is the chat niggas channel but it's in my it's in my section of the room I'll see what y'all y'all y'all yo yo what's the vibes you know yo it's good yeah yo try to get a couple chat niggis up in here I'm I'm trying to, you know, debate some random chat niggas about whatever they want.
Starting point is 01:55:24 So any- I got you. Any particular topic, no matter what. All right, I got you. This is freestyle it. John T. Nelly, I think we talked about that. Amber Rose talking about voting. We covered this. So.
Starting point is 01:55:47 Beat King's girlfriend has spoken out. She said, I don't know if it makes it real. I don't know if it helps or hurts me. I don't know what version of him, everyone got, but I do know. But I know I got to love, laugh, and live with the best version of him over everything. He's my bestest friend, my biggest supporter. He called me his superstar. We prayed, pranked each other.
Starting point is 01:56:17 Literally was two big-ass kids. I've questioned life. I've doubted my strength through this. I haven't been eaten. Oh, I got to. And barely sleeping. I don't know how I'm functioning. I'm crying.
Starting point is 01:56:30 because I know he was ready. He was happy. He was loved. This has to be one of the hardest things I've ever had to do, was to watch you leave me. I fought and fought, but God wasn't letting up. I know you're with your mom.
Starting point is 01:56:44 And finally moonwalking with our favorite, Michael Jackson. I see prayers and encouraging words. It's helping more than you know. Send me any videos and photos you have of us or him. I posted this for y'all because if you know us, you know he'd want me to keep going. he'd say man stop crying and drop all that music i love y'all and he loves y'all until we meet again big speaking okay that was a that was a really nice message jesus yeah i send my prayers out to uh
Starting point is 01:57:21 her name is talamisha you know she'd definitely go through a tough time i i thought her message was was handled with class and grace i respect that anyway yo who's up in here what up you know you got hey yo here got facts in here yeah bring also some random chat
Starting point is 01:57:39 magazines I'm just trying to get you know I brought a couple it's too I brought a couple a man and they in there
Starting point is 01:57:44 yeah yeah doing some watching UCF yeah I'm I'm just trying to get some
Starting point is 01:57:49 like either random perspective and also we don't have to we don't have to please don't make this a drink thing
Starting point is 01:57:55 like if I do that man I'm I'm gonna fall asleep man I'm tired of the drink stuff for a bit like just any type of discussion
Starting point is 01:58:01 in hip hop What's y'all talking about? What's on your mind? Hey, how y'all turn a volume up in the VC? I can't hear it. I can hear you. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I wanted to get some topies out for real
Starting point is 01:58:19 because some people are bored shit. We want to put you on to the underground scene, man. Like the rap underground scene, I know you don't cover it as. But I think you should really cover some of these people. I think they're really talented. Who? Like Jace.
Starting point is 01:58:33 So, Fago, I mean, really underground. but you're in the underground. You got Shea. You got all those type of guys that I think you don't cover as much, but I think you would like them so much. I know you covered the 2016 era, and we love that, but we want to see, you know, the younger people, I'm 21. You know, we want to see you cover some more younger people and shit like that, man.
Starting point is 01:58:56 Yeah, I mean, what is there, like, I know about So Figo, but what is there to necessarily cover about him? Like, their music scene, like, They stunted, like, we just want you to see, you know, cover them more about their music. Like that. Maybe get an interview. Oh, no, no. I'll sit with a couple of them.
Starting point is 01:59:19 But, like, in terms of, you know, the difference with, you know, the 2016 cast of characters at that time was like, we had so many people that were different. But they had all, basically all had, like, damn their storylines going on with them. and that's where, you know, people like me, I kind of like became the media for a lot of those guys. I'm going to be honest with you, these days, half of these new rappers, like, for example, like say like a destroyed lonely. Okay, yeah, maybe once in a while you get a situation
Starting point is 01:59:57 like yesterday I'm covering him and lucky going back and forth, allegedly over a girl. But usually all these niggies is doing. these days, I'm not saying everybody. I'm speaking more like destroy law. It's guys like fashion guys, but like they don't really say nothing. They don't tweet nothing. They don't seem like they like to
Starting point is 02:00:17 talk. You know, maybe some of you are super fans of these people know what the fuck they got going on. But to most people, we don't know what the fuck they got going on. Okay. And that that's what equals lack of coverage, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:33 So. Yeah, but But of course, I am looking at their music and hoping, and hoping that their music eventually becomes the mainstream. Because, again, What's your thoughts on the nigger, Dave Blunts? The Dave Blunts, yo, yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:00:52 He's funny, buddy. He wanted the underground rapper. Funny. Who's Dave Bluntz? He's like underground rapper. He's a what rapper? he's like an underground rapper but it's kind of little gimmicky
Starting point is 02:01:10 you know like cap rap guy just he's very overweight not not to say he overweight no but the guy's very overweight talking about drinking lean and nothing is in his pot we all know nothing is in the guy cup but it sounds great though
Starting point is 02:01:23 like yeah did you say this he's like Mario Judah 2.0 you say he's a little bit overweight this thing's fat as fuck I ain't got it you know this thing is like a walrus washed up to sure.
Starting point is 02:01:36 They're like a beached whale. What are you talking about? I know, but, you know, I don't want to be fat-moving. Like, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know, they can know your ass too, right? And they said that, you know, that was me.
Starting point is 02:01:52 They was like, this niggas went from. It's no way, it's no way this nigga is in the new generation of music. This nigga look about 55, row. Hey, you know, right? I ain't on cap. He got the same tracks who don't, like, every day. I don't know if that's his only size they make an XL, like four XLs and shit. But he wears that shit every day.
Starting point is 02:02:15 Bro, cut it out, bro. Like, this is- Hey, yeah, what's up? I mean, that's his only outfit. I'm just saying, I ain't never seen another outfit, man. Look at the Wayne bottle that you see on the next post. Yo, a nigger was with Keith, man. He definitely obese.
Starting point is 02:02:31 I got a question. I know Yaddy didn't expose. terrible a lot, but you really feel like she don't have no career no longer after this? Well, you know, I think I said that in the moment that I realize again,
Starting point is 02:02:47 we treat women rappers very different from male rappers, so a female rapper not writing isn't a big deal. Like, Nikki doesn't expose half of the women that don't write and people still like them if they come up with a bob, right? Like, if right now we've figured out
Starting point is 02:03:03 that maybe sexy red didn't write pound town i don't think people are like oh my god i'm done with her so i think i think i over blew that but i guess i was culminating everything that was happening at the time like you're getting exposed to being an asshole you the guy who was kind of created your look and giving you the lyrics and the songs he's exposing you like you're kind of done not necessarily because you're using a writer but just because you know this person created you line by line bar for bar yeah because now she's getting a lot more publicity so i think might work in a favor. I mean, if she can
Starting point is 02:03:36 continue on with the same sound, I guess. Well, I don't think it's going to work. Well, here's a thing, right? So, you know, and this is something we always got to know, right? Bro, I just showed you her concert. I wasn't trying to shit on her, but there was about
Starting point is 02:03:53 11 people out there. Bro, if you go to her last Instagram post that has her in it, has 150,000 people who liked it. 3,000 comments. You know, I think she's being reminded that your social media career or what people hit like on your post, that's not what your music career is at. And maybe that's the humbling that she needed, right?
Starting point is 02:04:20 Right. Now, could she build back? Yeah, but these arts got to be passionate, man. Like, I've never seen a non-passionate artist gets a second chance of music. I understand. I agree. They can't have nobody right for them. Just another person?
Starting point is 02:04:37 well I mean of course they can but okay it's not that simple but but she's like like he said she's got to be passionate about she's not going to just be able to take it easy right now like I have a lot of you to compare it no no to compare it to the city girls
Starting point is 02:04:56 when you're writing for a female artist it's very different than let's say you're writing a verse for Kanye you're not scripting Kanye's whole persona, his whole, like these people are blank canvases, right? So like,
Starting point is 02:05:17 Caribou, she's a blank canvas. When you dress her, that's why he's mentioned these things. When you give her an aesthetic, you give her a sound, you give her a perspective, and all of those things are hitting and resonating with,
Starting point is 02:05:32 even if it's part of your audience or some audience, it's not just about her continuing and making random songs she needs to keep that aesthetic up the fan base that she has is for that aesthetic again not necessarily just for her being her so that's the point I would say this is her with Northwest
Starting point is 02:05:52 do you agree that right now she might need to lean on maybe her and Anisia teaming up to do more music together because they really did had a very dope combo. Well, she do got a tour with Lotto still coming, and
Starting point is 02:06:10 she's on rolling loud. So, like I said, she's got to be passionate about it. I feel like she got a lot there. She got a lot. Lotto makes a lot of music with Anisia. They like the three high yellow women from Atlanta that makes music together. So maybe she got to lean on those three
Starting point is 02:06:28 girls to kind of be a collective with those women. No, no. Well, here's the thing. She doesn't have a fan being. yet. Her fan base essentially is the Yadis. Yadis. And when like I think we all know this. When the
Starting point is 02:06:45 people who support you most are primarily fans or supporters of somebody else, your biggest goal in this is why you say, I'm saying she has to work. You need to go establish a fan base outside of that. Because Yadi's fans, like again, Yadi's fans
Starting point is 02:07:02 ain't going to fuck with you. if you go get a ghost writer that's going to write you different shit change up his aesthetic that's not in line with like like yaddy knew my fans would accept her if i give her this aesthetic so again she do got a fan page though they got like 13 they they rockin with it i think like you said she just got to continue being passionate it's a difference it's a difference between fans and followers bro yeah it's a big difference under yadi's format of how he was structuring the conference boys do you think she was ever going to be able to do that for real for real don't be honest i know i know i know yadi you know he's a fly guy you know what i'm saying but it was look kind of weird when he had them all dressed up in gray all the time looking like unflamed power rangers she was on the way though she was the female yaddy she ruined her shot she could have been like shack and coby her and yaddy i don't think anybody can ever be the
Starting point is 02:08:02 You know, Yadi, because Yadi is a very unique artist who's... You know, it's so funny, though. Yeah, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. One mic, one mic, one mic, one mic. To answer Kyrie's point, I do believe she would have had a career, right? What Yaddy's trying to do, and I'm not saying he's copying, is what Cardi's doing. Like, Cardi, at a certain point, realized he had such a unique sound.
Starting point is 02:08:30 He knew he was talented. and he knew he was legendary and iconic. He said, hey, let me do something new by bringing guys, because he did what Nikki's trying to do now. So what Nikki Minaj is doing now is realizing that all these girls need her co-signed. They're not trying to sound like her. Like in Cardi's case, they were trying to sound like Cardi. They were trying to be baby Cardi's.
Starting point is 02:08:58 So again, it's like one of those things where, you know, imitation is flattery. And I think historically in hip-hop and in many other genres, when people imitate you, you're almost like, like sometimes that's how beef starts. But what Cardi did was he said, all right, y'all going to be opium. I'll be even more legendary when I'm introducing a wave of,
Starting point is 02:09:26 let's not call them clones, but I'm introducing a wave of people who are inspired by me, right and i think that's where yadi you know i think yaddy's been in this bubble of yaddy's running a race with three people it's him oozy and cardi and i think that for a while he was left behind and i think he's been frustrated because he's been doing a lot of stuff on the ghost right in front but maybe his music doesn't get accepted as much as their music so i think this is a move for him to kind of try to level up the score. And he's trying to do what Cardi did by saying concrete is going to be for the people who like
Starting point is 02:10:09 the Yadi style. Like, you know, what's the Yadi style? I'll explain. The Yadi style is, Yadi feels like he's super fashion forward with a certain type of quirk that I think he's saying, I'm going to get people who are like that. now granted i'm gonna be honest with you it appears that he just he didn't get people who were actually imitating him he's making them which which that's like a different beast like for example
Starting point is 02:10:38 i do believe with cardi oh sorry i believe cardi is i believe cardi early on was signing people who sounded like him remember i told you how cardi told me you act could you could you lay off um young bands for a bit you i'm doing some shit i'm gonna sign a bunch of artists and I'm thinking about signing him. And it was basically like a power move. Like everybody who sounds like me, y'all will get further by just signing to me. I mean, Nicky Minadz literally just said that.
Starting point is 02:11:09 And that's why she's saying why people ain't signed to her. She's a little late in the game, but that's the point of what's happening here. So that's why I said they would have had a career. Now, granted, anytime you sign to an artist and that's like the thing, the ceiling of how high you could go is always. always going to rest on how big that artist is, right? So, like, if Yadi doesn't sell 100K first week, do I think Karibu could have had the perspective
Starting point is 02:11:36 of selling 100K first week? No. But she would have been able to have a sustainable career. Yeah. Your act, Nikki just signed a few artists from a few artists, like two artists from New York, two or three artists from New York, and I ain't nice to you to promote them, but nothing sense.
Starting point is 02:11:51 Women? That's fun. She signed one girl. I know she signed one girl. but she's kind of here from Baltimore too yeah I don't know what happened with them I think do you think that
Starting point is 02:12:05 Nikki effect is like baby like people don't want to sign her because they feel like she's going to overshadow because I know a kid that's signed to her personally and I don't feel like he gets as much shine you know he writes for her as well or helps with production but do you think like with her people don't want to sign
Starting point is 02:12:21 because she might overshadow them you know what I'm saying they won't never be able to be bigger I don't think there's any female artists that would ever in their right mind be thinking about being bigger than Nicky Minaj she's just done so much that we haven't seen anybody who even came close I think those particular artists they're looking at it like this as much as Nikki keeps saying she has a label
Starting point is 02:12:46 it's you know let's say you go do a label meeting with Nikki right and she has to give you what she's offering for you to join her label. Yes, the Nikki Kohl-Sime is great. But here's the thing. Nikki's label and Nikki's people around her are still very much concerned with Nikki.
Starting point is 02:13:08 So you have less resources and third. The reality is that just being on a label is going to probably give an artist the best chance of success. Like, I think if Nikki had a label that was, you know, if Nikki's label, like what do we even know about nicky's label i don't know absolutely i just feel like
Starting point is 02:13:32 she should the artist they should still be doing anything like just you just you just got to keep doing your shit okay who runs sticky label i mean you know how that it don't work like that let me let me ask you this do you think being assigned to nicky you're going to have the ability to go do what you want to do niggin you could keep on doing what you've been doing again do you think getting signed to nicky you're going to keep doing
Starting point is 02:13:55 what you've been doing, niggins. I agree. I don't agree with that, niggas. Yeah, but I don't think those are factors. What I think is that
Starting point is 02:14:13 Nicky Minaj is hoping people signed to her because of the name and we know nothing about Nicky Minaj's label. Like, put it like this. Drake, when he started OVO,
Starting point is 02:14:27 expected people to be like, well, is Drake? Let me just go sign my life away. And you know what actually happened? When the weekend and others had these meeting with Drake and other labels, they realized it was just night and day. These other labels were going to offer more things. Also, they realize that sometimes these artists ran label are incubation fronts
Starting point is 02:14:55 or even the label is still focused on the main. act. So you signed to what's Nicky's label? Is it called heavy on it or something like that? Is that what's called? I mean, when I was at Def Jam, I remember Good music was under Deaf Jam and everything I worked by Deaf Jam. Niggas talk good music.
Starting point is 02:15:13 But it's not. If you sign to like Nikki or Drake, it's almost like you're working for the machine. Like you work for the machine, Drake or you work for the machine Nicky. I heard way back in a day Drake used to write for, I think, one of of them dudes in NWA
Starting point is 02:15:30 well, uh, Dr. J. And it's, it's like writers boot camp. Did you say one of them dudes in NWA? NGA, you're talking about, my fault, my fault. You're talking about Dr. You're talking about.
Starting point is 02:15:40 Yeah, Dr. J. My bad. They would, they would write under him. And it's like a whole boot camp thing. And I'm guessing like, Yadi kind of did the reverse.
Starting point is 02:15:53 Like he kind of like, he don't got people ride for him. He just be right for everybody. Which is also with, even i feel like we slept on yadi too much finding out this nigga created a whole new character
Starting point is 02:16:09 out of nowhere out of the fucking thin airtie real jr was weird I think people forget this not the first time yadi did this i don't know who he did it with
Starting point is 02:16:21 yaddy made the city girls nigger wait but not i'm not even saying i'm not going to say he made the city girls i was a whole establishment effort but don't forget he had the boat team like what was it called the yaddy girls
Starting point is 02:16:32 not club. Like, it's been times when he tried to put Nell's own before. Yeah, yeah, he did have a cast of characters before. Yeah, like three phases of it. Like, so, like, I feel,
Starting point is 02:16:44 I feel for Yadi when he, like, going through his like, you know, crash out, it's like, you know, it's not the first time he tried to put niggas on. You know what I'm saying? He said they didn't want it enough. Nigel. I've seen that shit with Karibu, nigga. I felt like Scarlet 2.0,
Starting point is 02:16:57 nigga. Yo, yo, you act, but like, if you take an artist, right, And you see like, like she wasn't even an artist at first. She like an assistant or something, he said, right, or a friend. Ain't that kind of like he planted that? Like he kind of seemed that she had all of the, like the right. That is indeed a plant.
Starting point is 02:17:14 Like, like he felt like she had everything right that he needed. And he just went ahead and just wrote her some bars. He's like, yo, this is where like, you know how you was talking about shorties that's like dikes or whatever? Like he felt like, yo, like he kind of liked that too. Like in one of his little interviews he had like on his own podcast, he was talking about how he'd be liking shorties that dressed like, boys so it's like he kind of seen the like the wave already coming before it really jumped off
Starting point is 02:17:39 and kind of just planted her like yo and then got another one too because he got another one i think her name geo she doing the same thing and i'd be seeing a lot of chicks like running around now like with that same swag like and y like before prior to that like there's a lot of chicks that been like that already so it's like he'd be in and y and why he might have been a thing like chicks that dress like and why? Like, that's been a thing for a minute. Like, they be liking boys still and they be liking girls,
Starting point is 02:18:03 or they just be liking girls. What you think, I got? No, so I agree with you. I definitely agree with you on, so this is how I look at it, right? I look at it as a three-headed race. This Yadi, Cardi, and Uzi thing.
Starting point is 02:18:21 I think what Uzi hasn't done is what Cardi and Yadi are trying to do. Put other artists on. You become greater like I said this and I hate to I'm kind of bringing up the same cast of characters I said this about Nikki before I said Nicky's already the queen but but instead of like battling or beefing or seemingly competing with the new bitch on the block
Starting point is 02:18:42 if Nikki became the person who just signed everybody like they all want to suck from her tities just to sign them she would be so far up in like you know how people would view her it wouldn't even be close right and I think I think what happened is if we're looking at this three-headed race in terms of um um um yadi uzi and cardi essentially yadi i think was falling behind and he he did this because he's
Starting point is 02:19:18 been doing a lot of stuff just not getting credit for it he's been writing for people he's been writing for people getting no credit right so everybody's judging him on his own music so when he starts putting people on and they're now seen as part of his movement, he gets a lot of credit. Also, here's the thing, too, what we don't give Yadi credit for is that, yeah, about this, like, you know, lesbian dyke thingy, whatever, he almost kind of, he's like a proprietor, like, one of the, like, the people who saw this wave first, and he kind of have already spoke about it, right? like then you get um cardy and his wave and look at how they dress he almost was bringing in that weird dressing shit anyway
Starting point is 02:20:08 and he's now has a bunch of people doing the same and that's opium so again i kind of understand what they're trying to do um and i actually actually believe that you know i i told i told yadi this i say yadi you should have never dropped the girl bro yeah I think that was that was a not that was probably not that wasn't a good
Starting point is 02:20:31 I said this to Yadi on the phone I said Yadi this is why you're an artist Yadi reminds me and this is going to sound you know self-centered I hope I won't come across like narcissistic
Starting point is 02:20:42 try to relate every story to myself but what Yadi did reminded me of when I try to start a label let me let me explain when you already have something that you're successful at.
Starting point is 02:20:55 You see, people like P or, you know, I give credit to Gotti because he's an artist too. But certain hood niggas, all they are are executives. They get to learn to deal with niggas who are egotistical, talk too much shit, always getting in their own way. Like, they could deal with artists like that. I always told you out of story. I tried to sound a few artists.
Starting point is 02:21:20 I went to Jacksonville. I spent the weekend there almost winding and dying like this artist, blah blah blah. Bro, the disappointment after I realized I wasted my time, I said, fuck these artists. I'm not doing that shit no more. Like, you know why I primarily said that? I'm making too much good money doing other shit.
Starting point is 02:21:39 I think Yadi's doing so great in his career. And I know you might not think he's doing great in his career. Bro, the niggas on Drake's last two, three albums. The niggas writing for four other niggas. Like, regardless of his own personal tracks, Yaddy right now musically is bumping. I think he looks at it and he can't tolerate bullshit. Like he just won't tolerate it.
Starting point is 02:22:03 And now an executive is going to tolerate. You know why? Bro, you don't give somebody a career and then let them go walk to somebody else who's going to profit from it. This snotty-nosed brat who's egotistical who talk to people like shit. Yo, put it like this. Put it like this. Okay. Should I do a source on this or should I?
Starting point is 02:22:34 Because I got to say the name. No, I'm not going to say the name. I'm talking to this label executive. One of the biggest label executives for one of the most popular artists. This artist wanted a certain amount of money. Basically, it's a misunderstanding. This artist thinks they're worth this. and their careers going up like this.
Starting point is 02:22:57 The label realized they've been subsidized in a lot of what the artist... What the fuck is this? Sorry. Yeah, I think he's good, man. So, let me tell us for again. So, there's an artist, not beefing,
Starting point is 02:23:16 but it's really negotiation with the label. And this artist, again, if I say the names you would know, but I just don't want to be messy. This artist feels like, they're going up. The label feels like actually you're not as hot as you could be. We've spent a lot of
Starting point is 02:23:31 money on marketing to keep you hot. Right? Okay. The artist wants to re-up now. They want more money. The label is like now you need to do this, that and third, get a little bit hotter, and then we could talk. Essentially,
Starting point is 02:23:50 things kind of got sour. Right? and it came to the point where the label is saying, we're going to have to get rid of this artist, but they won't get rid of the artists, right? They have one more option on the label. They have one more option. So an option is like an album.
Starting point is 02:24:13 They have one more album this person has to drop, but it's clear this person's not going to stay there, right? So just think about like basketball. You know what niggas usually get traded on their last year and they go side with a new team? It's kind of the same thing. Like music kind of works like that. So essentially, the label is doing this to the artist, right?
Starting point is 02:24:33 The label basically has told him, no, no, the label is, the label don't want to put out their music, but don't want to drop them. They're in limbo. Why? Because if they drop them, they've spent years of promoting this person, and they're going to go to another label that's going to benefit off all the shit. Like, who knows? Maybe they're not hot right now, but they go to another label and catch a hit,
Starting point is 02:24:57 and then now you feel like an asshole because you just let go of a value commodity. You spend $10 million in promoting for like four albums and somebody else benefits. That's the point what I'm trying to say. The hardest part of Carrable is done. Who is Caraboo? You know how she looks. Do you know a song by her? Okay, you might know a verse, even if Yadhi wrote it.
Starting point is 02:25:20 That's the hardest part of the job. Like the other shit is just marketing and collabs and shit like that. So Yaddy allowing her to walk. Every label is licking their chops like, yo, come over here. We don't have to do much work. All we got to do is take you, put you with this, take you, put you with this. Take you, put you with that.
Starting point is 02:25:39 And by the way, I guarantee half these tors she's on, they're probably leveraged by whoever is trying to sign her. Hey, listen. What up? what about this though do you think um a part of similar to basketball and other sports where like a team will put out disparage and things about a client or or athlete to like lessen the value of said artists i think that has happened here with yadi going out and saying she don't write she i think it's going to be to a point where like labels like why would we invest in somebody who can't even do two steps forward just because a lot of females don't write that stuff no sure I think there's a difference when we talk about the other females because there's another added particular value that they have. They have certain assets, you feel me, that, that, you know, are easy to profitize. You feel, the labels, the labels want her more right now because Yadi had her first post.
Starting point is 02:26:40 Like, they want her more. And she's a counter. Hold on. I think one of the reasons why Yadi crashed out is the show other labels like, yo, she's not going to work without me. No, I feel like the reason why he crashed out is. because he's tired, bro, this shit gets stressful, nigga, I've invested. All this money, Kyrie, you see me go to the shit.
Starting point is 02:26:58 You got emotional. If you don't want to go to that shit, bro, I'm tired of this shit, nigga. Niggins, because y'all ain't getting enough credit. About that credits, fuck. He just said. He literally should have did it.
Starting point is 02:27:13 You know, he took it to the internet versus, like, a corporate person that would, you know, handled that behind doors. I think he literally handled that with his emotions. and we'll think back to it and realize he let a commodity go. She can be profit. She's a contract.
Starting point is 02:27:26 He can be profitable, but is, bro, do I really care about the profit? My nigga, I want my peace, bro. Like, I'm good. Like, I understand that nigga Yadi 100%, bro. Like, I totally understand it. It was definitely emotional move because, again, Yadi isn't, you know, he said I'm 900 K in the hole, right? A lot of times, and I've seen a lot of people who are reacting to that.
Starting point is 02:27:50 Let me give you. a little bit about the music industry. On average, it takes the majority of artists probably up to five years to be a profitable commodity if they're still around for a label. Like, there's no artist that just
Starting point is 02:28:04 gets signed, and they're instantly profitable. Why? Because money's always being spent. So, even if you have a record making money, oh, now we've got to put more money into marketing because we're trying to get you a bigger artist. Like, they're just having
Starting point is 02:28:21 you drop albums to have a catalog that later on you will become profitable so when i heard people like you know very shocked that they're 900k in the hole i don't know why you'd be shocked well probably 300k went to the and they're nowhere near the threshold of like to like where they're sustainable yeah that's what i'm saying i don't think she nowhere near like a sustainable level if she really not right now well well here's the thing though no no she probably would have been uh um At that point I don't think I don't I know like
Starting point is 02:28:53 She's on year one She's on year one You know think about it Think about this Think about us Think about us Yadi's trying to create a brand For this girl
Starting point is 02:29:01 And for all these guys You spend $300,000 On our wardrobe Because now you want her To appeal to people Who think they're trendy And dress like this You spend
Starting point is 02:29:12 This amount of people Or 200,000 On you know getting these records or getting to a certain level. Again, what I will say, and this is where I think Yadhi was being slightly emotional, but that emotion comes from him really looking at it from an artist's perspective versus an executive perspective.
Starting point is 02:29:35 An artist's perspective is like, bitch, I don't need you to make money. I make money from my damn self. Executive perspective is going to be, yo, I'm not going to take. torch my investment because here's the thing she's dropped from concrete but she's not technically off of the label right so
Starting point is 02:29:58 she's not with the group anymore she's going to get calls and offers but Yadi is going to have a part of that deal but here's the thing so if she gets signed right now to Def Jam for $5 million dollars I don't know the splits by the way so I'm making it up
Starting point is 02:30:14 Yaddy's going to get maybe half of that right so he's going to Yes, RICO. Now, here's the thing. Because Yadi was slightly emotional, he torched that. Like, whatever career she could have had afterwards means some major repairing. Like, he torched it.
Starting point is 02:30:32 So you torch your own investment when, yes, she's not like, yeah, cool, she's not going to get the money from being in concrete, but you still own a, she's still contracted to you. So whoever she signs with, before they sign her, they have to come. cut you a check. But you now have made her like before, before like 10 days ago, people knew she left concrete. Maybe people are saying, yo, we'll give you $2 million. We'll give you $3 million. I think that price significantly comes down when these labels are now looking at her to say, well, we're going to have to. That's kind of what I was saying. Yeah, we got to repair your image.
Starting point is 02:31:12 We got to do this. We got to do that. So instead of $3 million, we'll give you $1 million. So now if y'all Save Yadda had a 50% like, you know, share with that. Bro, you got... Production fee, whatever. Yeah, you got $1.5 million. As opposed to now, the price is going down, you'd probably only get half a million dollars. So, but what I do think that's Yadis,
Starting point is 02:31:37 Yaddy as an artist, just saying, I don't need a bitch. And I'm saying that affectionately, I just don't need another motherfucker to make me the bread. I agree I got a question What up? What does it take for an artist to become
Starting point is 02:31:54 Like a genuine Label owner or like a Like a good label owner so like you know how Wayne got Drake and Niki and stuff What is it what is it going to take for another artist to do that again? Say it again Like what does it take what is it going to take for A artist of like the new generation to become like
Starting point is 02:32:18 A good label owner so like You know how Wayne picked up Mickey and Drake. What is it going to take for, like, the new artist, like a Cardi or a Uzi to make, like, a big label like that? I actually care. I think that's over. I think it has to be put. They got to be able to put themselves a little bit to the back and, you know, that resource. And he said that.
Starting point is 02:32:45 Let act up. Hey, by the way, no, there's always going to be, like, artists do make good label owners at some points. It's just that you can't have a conflict of interest, right? You can't have your whole staff that's like, for example, Drake's staff, right, is running the Drake show, right? They're running the Drake show. The people who had positions in OVO,
Starting point is 02:33:10 they make more per dollar off of Drake's success than they could make off an artist. they're always just going to focus on the biggest commodity at the time. So, like, honestly, here's the thing that I think Drake is always like, you know, if Drake had a Dame Dash, I still don't know if it works.
Starting point is 02:33:31 You know why? Because I think Drake, you know, Drake hasn't ever been like Jay where Drake is trying to bring up like a rap crew. Like, the majority of guys sign the OVO other than, like, Smiley, are R&B dudes that supposedly has,
Starting point is 02:33:50 you know, are in the same lane or Drake has collaborated with. So that's where a sweatshop comes from. If Drake was the type of guy to be like, like have a Dreamville or have like a TDE, I think that could work. And I'm not talking about a bunch of conscious rappers
Starting point is 02:34:07 or lyricists, but if Drake had signed some lit nigga from Atlanta, I think that could work. Lit nigga from Atlanta. sign on armed well you know by the way he tried to sign some of these people already and and i think the words has been been out that you know some of these artists probably was just like now we're not about to do it for whatever reason uh uh i look i got i got another question it's it's a it's a different topic though at it's a it's a different topic though i got i want to ask for some
Starting point is 02:34:36 shit oh what's all right all right so so it's some personal shit right but it's public so i feel like i could speak about it but so a few weeks ago some shit happened right to where where my dog you know my dog was invited he was invited yeah I got to bro this shit on my heart bro so my dog was invited to do it to do a podcast
Starting point is 02:35:01 right bro right he was invited to do a podcast niggas invited him to do a podcast and he always asks me shit like yo like yo facts like shit I do it and I always tell the nigga like yo bro stop fucking with these niggas like these niggas don't really you know so he went to go do the podcast long story less long the nigger
Starting point is 02:35:18 the nigger got snuffed and I'm saying like the nigger got snuck and I'm saying he got snuck he got snuck when he was doing the podcast and shit you feel me and I just feel right my stance is this he ain't here right now shout out to my nigga Coco the Coco show and I feel like my stance is this act
Starting point is 02:35:35 I feel like this I feel like the nigger the nigger that called him to do the podcast should have had security you feel me like he should have made sure that that boy wouldn't have got touch. Hold on. What's it going to get touched?
Starting point is 02:35:49 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. So, so. Nah, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Why don't, what have to do it? Yeah, if the dude is here, we can just kind of almost do it as a topic. I'll play the clip, then I got a bunch of questions because I like what you said facts,
Starting point is 02:36:06 but there are questions to be asked. That's crazy. All right. We're going to get into it. Let's do it. Okay, hold on. Hey, Coco, why you let that nigga hit the sod? No, no, hold on.
Starting point is 02:36:16 Relax. Relax. I relax, relax, relax. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So let me just play this for context. Here is, so this apparently happened on a channel called Trapland TV. There's a pod. That nigga, that nigga's a bitch.
Starting point is 02:36:33 I'm sorry. Okay, there's a podcaster named Cocoa show. And then there's another guy who I don't know his name yet. I think I've seen a guy with no job. I still don't know his name. Anyway, apparently was supposed to be like. Yeah, no name. Apparently it was like a square up or like a square off, like, you know, like a face to face, like a debate almost, right?
Starting point is 02:36:53 But it got a little bit heated. This is like the last moments here. Hey, yo, listen, y'all. I've been doing this shit for four years, y'all. I've been talking shit to everybody. Who has ever put a hand to? Okay. And shit went left, whatever, whatever.
Starting point is 02:37:08 They basically start fighting. This pretty much ends the podcast. All right, cool. So apparently, so the Coco show is the guy who got hit, but he's in here now, right? Hello? Yeah, I'm right here Okay, cool So, all right
Starting point is 02:37:24 So facts You do the intro again about Because you're making a point About security All right And I got some questions Alright So look my thing is
Starting point is 02:37:34 No no No, no Don't make me sound pussy though All right so you So wait wait wait hold on So I need you to talk You knicker Nickas
Starting point is 02:37:40 Because deep No Nah nah say what you guys I say What I'm saying is this So what I'm saying is this All right bro So what I'm saying is this
Starting point is 02:37:48 These one gown These Long Gallon niggas being hate, they be hating, bro. Like, to keep it to fish you, I'd be so humble, and I don't be talking my shit, and I just let shit slide. None of these big is big. I'm the biggest nigga in Long Island, respectfully. And after me, it's Coco, respectfully. But I don't give a fuck about that shit.
Starting point is 02:38:06 You know, shout out to my Long Island people doing anything. He's not talking about everybody. He's talking about... I don't even give a fuck. Hold on. Technically, Coco, you is the biggest nigga in Long Island. You feel me respectfully. But that's neither hell it is.
Starting point is 02:38:18 What I'm saying is this. them niggas be hating bro long story less long Coco got invited to the fuck and to do a podcast with the nigger right fuck the podcast Coco got invited to the celebrity basketball game Coco called my phone like yo facts
Starting point is 02:38:31 these niggas invited me to the celebrity basketball game what did I say Coco I said don't go right yep and then he went and they tried to funnel him at the celebrity basketball game try to jump the nigga hold on hold on wait wait wait wait a minute talk wait wait wait up like seven other niggas
Starting point is 02:38:45 hold on anyway okay I just want to get a little bit of context All right. So we're talking about people who are in content. They're from New York. What is the issue with Cocoa Show and any of these guys, but definitely the guy who showed up on this podcast? What's the issue? Just tell us the main problem is they feel like Coco be talking crazy. And the only reason why he told crazy is because I got his back. Nah, I ain't going to lie to you. It was all about shit. Like I said, you see what happened after he hit me, right? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:39:22 Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. Created a little steam or whatever. Wait, wait. What do you mean what happened after he hit you? Like, I don't get it. Yeah, I don't get it. Yeah, I was wrong.
Starting point is 02:39:34 But like I said, it was supposed to be a little debate or whatever back and full of niggas, you know, talking shit or whatever. And like I said, the niggas started disrespecting me. So then I was respecting the nigger's spot. the whole time I wanted to knock the nigga out word but I kept my composure and me I'm the type of nigga I'm the type of nigga I'm talking crazy like this I told niggas that I'm a respected spot
Starting point is 02:39:56 so I'm gonna get at you with words words then as you can see he disrespected me first everybody talking about oh you was talking hot nah I was cooling I was on a level that he was on as time went on you disrespecting me you disrespecting me you disrespecting me
Starting point is 02:40:12 I'm not I'm not soft I've seen a lot of the blog talking about, oh, oh, he was claiming that he was this, he was that. Everything that I said on that shit was facts. Real life, though. And like I said, from the start, if you wanted your head up, you could have asked the nigga, yo, after this, give me my head up. You wasn't on no type of shit like that.
Starting point is 02:40:32 You was very respectful in there. Everything was for the cameras. And like I said, he's like, look, clout chaser. Like you said, you don't know who those people are, you feel me? Like, I didn't know who he was evil, you feel me? So, word. In Long Island, the thing is, like I said, a lot of people know who I am so people do little things to try to get their little cloud off me type shit and I guess the shit
Starting point is 02:40:50 work but like I said I can't get to get you guys I asked a much of a question well hold on a wait wait go show Coco show so so after this guy swings on you um that clearly the sound equipment stuff started messing up this is an authentic moment this is not one of them pranks and something like that um y'all are kind of scrappy I get separated but it looked like you're like now fuck that I'm trying to get it do you I end up fighting more or or do did people separate y'all after yes so as you can see when i got hit on a camera that's all you sure now i'm thinking mad things number one i'm thinking all right bet he hit me i'm down so i'm defenceless so i'm looking for an item or something to to to do what i need to do to defend
Starting point is 02:41:36 myself and i'm thinking to myself like damn all of these cameras right here is that a bible you have your hand is it a bible you have your hand yeah but that wasn't my bible That was the trapland God's Bible. Like he had that there. I don't know. Like I said, it was supposed to be. It's like, if you got the Bible in your hand,
Starting point is 02:41:53 you're telling the truth. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, I was about to say, this sounds like the Kendrick song, beat your ass with a Bible with God watching. I'm like, holy. I don't know. That played out.
Starting point is 02:42:03 Look, though. But after off the camera, like I said, I was trying, I was trying to attack them with anything off the camera. Then we got outside and word, I slammed them or whatever. I hit my head on the concrete.
Starting point is 02:42:15 the medical staff said I was I was a mild concussed whatever that was you feel me yeah it went down it went down outside wait wait wait wait like I said I was gonna I ain't gonna lot of y'all if it wasn't for he
Starting point is 02:42:28 it was like like I said this shit was planned because when I was going to finish him there was people with ski masters coming out to cut and shit like that and then you see me getting recorded walking back type shit so word obviously that shit was so you're saying you beat the brakes off of him afterwards
Starting point is 02:42:45 He got the hit on camera, but you went outside and gave him the beats. Yo, and not only that, not only that, look, my peoples was called, because remember, I'm by myself. My people's was calling like, yo, stay right there. He ran. You know what I did? I brushed myself off, wiped myself off,
Starting point is 02:43:03 went back inside and did another interview after that. That ain't on the camera, though. You heard? So I'm gangster. Word. But anyway. We're not going to say, I'm not trying to.
Starting point is 02:43:14 I'm not even trying to be funny, bro. I'm not even trying to... Hey, hold on. Hold on, fat. Yeah, see how I got hit like that? I was supposed to be knocked out. Real life, though. I was supposed to be knocked out off camera. Think about it.
Starting point is 02:43:26 That was supposed to be the whole scheme. I go back, like, you know how you go back and forth with the artists and stuff like that? When they're saying shit about you, I do the same thing. So, niggas wanted to see that happen to me. I was supposed to be knocked out on camera. No, I ate that, got up, and did what I had to do. It just looked like that on the camera
Starting point is 02:43:42 because that was the footage of me getting hit and him doing what he needed to do. And I punched him in his face on the camera. Y'all just didn't see that. Yo, Act, let me tell you the thing is, let me tell you the thing, act, let me tell you the thing, the thing with these niggas, bro,
Starting point is 02:43:54 like you could, like, like, no funny shit. I used to be going live, Kyrie, y'all remember the chat niggas. Y'all remember when I used to be going live with Coco. I used to be promoting these long gallon niggas trying to help them.
Starting point is 02:44:04 They would get mad that we posting them and we're talking about them and talking about their music in positive ways. Like these niggas, Long gallon is like a fucking, it's like a bubble. bro and all they do is it's like a crab in a barrel all they do is hate on each other they hate on
Starting point is 02:44:18 niggas i'm like bro how could y'all be mad that i'm talking about y'all niggas to try and help y'niggas me and coke all we did was we made list to try and help these niggins they would be jealous and be angry that they're not number one on a list like it just mad weird shit all they would just hate so now when they see i start fucking with cocoa cocoa coco do got it he'd be talking crazy his mouth is crazy but when they see that i started fucking with koko no pose when they see that i started fucking with koko Coco, they felt like, oh, like, they just started ganging up on the nigger, you feel me? Like, trying to bully the nigger, you feel me?
Starting point is 02:44:51 That's why all these niggas don't like the nigger, you feel me? Yo, facts. I know this is going to, it's not, it's not playing well, bro. Look, bro, he got snuffed, he got snuffed, bro. He got snuffed, bro. Yeah, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. What are you talking about, bro? Because this shit happened every day in the hood.
Starting point is 02:45:09 It's just not recorded. Me just being who I am, niggas wanted this shit to be recorded. That is very true. Wait, Coco, could I ask you a question. Coco, where Coco. This is the only footie. Wait, wait, wait. Let me just interject for a second.
Starting point is 02:45:23 Coco. I definitely want to ask you this question because, so the shit we kept seeing, you were super animated. And I was just like, okay, I could tell an entertainer when I see him. Now, you were popping your shit. You were definitely popping your shit,
Starting point is 02:45:37 but I think, you know, you were definitely in entertainment mode, not in, I'm trying to fight right now, mode and this guy I seen like he was sizing you up. Did you think he was going to be a type of dude to swing on you like that? Well, like I said, before I came in a conversation we had in a group text the night before when they was convincing me to come.
Starting point is 02:46:00 He was the one that wanted this energy. He's sending me clips from other people who having debates and all of this bullshit. Oh, so he wanted, oh, he wanted the in-your-face argument shit. Okay. Huh? He wanted the in-your-face argument. Like he wanted like energy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:15 He wanted it. So I'm over there. I'm going at the pace that he wanted it. As I was saying before, as he got disrespectful, I got disrespectful. Words. So like I said, you know what it was. Because me and facts had did a debate with somebody else from Long Island, which never came out. So what they did was they studied that shit and had me come up there and do it with him.
Starting point is 02:46:39 You feel me? And the other nigga that don't fuck with me, when he put. up to do the interview he was man polite very nice nigger very nice migger very nice that's what I'm saying I did you beat
Starting point is 02:46:54 did you beat bricks off buddy or not what you mean that I listen to me I did what I could do at the time like I said it was me against like four of them and then when you said you I don't know I don't know what y'all do and your life and stuff like that
Starting point is 02:47:11 but when you outside and certain stuff happens and you start seeing people reaching their bags, I don't know if you feel me, I'm walking all the way. You live the fight another day. Coco not a street, nigga, bro. Coco not a street, bro. No, it's not even being a street,
Starting point is 02:47:26 it's about being smart. You go in there defend yourself and then you're seeing other niggas coming out the cut that you never seen before with ski masks on and they reaching in their bag. Are you going to go smart a problem? Hold on, no. Are you going to go towards the problem
Starting point is 02:47:40 or are you going to regroup? Which one? I hear you, Coco, but it's a little bit. about being smart nigga you know you was not supposed to go over there bro oh yeah that's what i'm gonna be at the same time i'm being me you feel me like i'm being me like somebody hit me and i i gotta defend myself now hey agh have you ever thought this would have ever happened to you in your career um what's the dude that wore the dresses that said he was going to smack you um every day Hold on, hold on, hold on, no, despite what I said at that point,
Starting point is 02:48:16 if you look at how I'm sitting, I'm like, it might go there. I just wasn't going to, because here's the, I wasn't going to get like super, because that's the only part about this clip that probably looks a little funny to people because you're like, yo, nobody ever put, like, you're doing a lot and then you get hit. Right? Like, you know, once that nigga Vic Mensa said that, I the whole episode afterwards I'm expecting maybe he's going to try to do something no no if you wasn't if you wasn't able to afford security and shit like that like I'm not able to
Starting point is 02:48:56 afford security you mean to tell me that nobody would have hooked off on you already keep it a uh okay okay so so I mean in the in the situations I control my situations I mean now if I was going to something like this did are you show up alone Yeah, I showed up alone. Oh, yeah, I'm not showing a balloon. Buggin. I'm not sure. Was it alcohol involved?
Starting point is 02:49:18 Was it alcohol in these cups? Yes, it was. Yes, it was. Yeah. I'm just curious if the shoe was on the other foot, would you still feel the same way about it? Like, would you not respond it to yourself? If, like, because like Act just said, you stood up and, you know, you presented this threat, you know, I ain't nobody, never. And I'm just saying, if the shoe was going to other foot, would you would have not kind of looked
Starting point is 02:49:39 get yourself in the same manner like I'm gonna lie to y'all I didn't start this I was disrespectful first and everything I said was a fact I don't take it back now listen to me understand this the way I was hit I was supposed to be knocked out my face was supposed to be broken my nose was supposed to be broken
Starting point is 02:49:55 something was supposed to be broke my face looked fine a day and a half later so it's like all right cool you did bad and not only that you snuck me real niggas is looking at that shit like okay Yeah, you hit the nigger, but you did it when the nigger wasn't looking. Yeah, I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 02:50:14 I'm going to be honest with you. I think it looks worse more in the content perspective more than like anybody could just get randomly punched. So let me ask you this. So did you ask the guy like, okay, let's do this do a fair one? Like let's let's let you know what I mean what was the, you know, ramifications after this? Yes. After we went outside and shit, I did what I had to do. Like I said, if y'all see the weight difference, that's a big boy.
Starting point is 02:50:43 When we went outside, his back was turned to me. So I was trying to slam the nigga. I ended up getting them over. I ended up hitting my head on the concrete. Like I said, the medical staff said I was mild concussed. So worried. After that, I just looked for a bottle and I got busy. He the one that ran away.
Starting point is 02:51:01 He ran away. And then, like I said, as I'm going after to chase him, people start scattering out of nowhere. I'm like, yo, whoa, whoa, whoa, who the hell was these? All of these little people. Like, then they start reaching in their bag, so I go back, I turn around the other way, and I regroup. All I'm saying is this, Coke. You can't be moving like that, bro. Like, you got to stop moving like that, bro.
Starting point is 02:51:23 You know the niggas been, bro. You know the niggas is not like that, bro. You know that for sure. The niggas is not like that, bro. You cannot be moving. You know what it is, bro? A lot of people got scared away from me doing this shit, bro. You know how it is, bro, when I'm doing this shit.
Starting point is 02:51:36 and like I said bro if something got to get done something got to get done bro shit be what it be like I said thank God it and the way they most likely wanted it to end for more clout and I lived to see another day
Starting point is 02:51:51 but why would you even go why would you even go and interview niggas that you don't go you don't even fuck with the niggas so why would you even give them a chance on your platform though yeah it wasn't my platform it was somebody else's platform
Starting point is 02:52:05 why would you even give him clout bro like you know like fuck niggas bro you really got to have that mentality like fuck niggas bro like you know me don't know i thought i thought i was i thought i was helping trap land out or wait a minute hold on all right so let me ask you a question so do you do you blame the trap land because i'm gonna be honest with you right so if if i'm bringing two people who i think they've been talking spicy to each other they're coming to my platform and it's supposed to be a face to face. I'm going to have some of my people, whether official security or not, but I've got to have some people there to buffer it to make sure nothing happens because, you know, I'm really big on this.
Starting point is 02:52:45 If someone comes to the place that I am, that I operate, I want them to get there safely and leave safely. Because I never want them to be like, yo, did this nigger line me? Did this nigga, you know what I mean? Because you got to realize like, bro, there's a lot of shit going on, right? like you never want people to be like oh okay because now you're the mutual party you might have have told him you bro i'm pulling up dolo he could have told the other niggas yo yeah he pulled up dolo now that nigga by bed i'm gonna bring five of my niggis with me now now we're gonna have a good time exactly and that in that's what i'm saying though because i'm not gonna lot of y'all he just started back up doing his things and when you see him interviewing and shit like that
Starting point is 02:53:28 he he never by himself when it comes to the interview so that shit was like a That shit was like a, yo, you want to put it in wrestling terms. That shit was like a fucking a cage match with one referee. Real life, though. You said you knew that going in there, though. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm from the hood, bro. And like I said, when I first came in there, I was trying to get into a little depth.
Starting point is 02:53:50 Because like I said, I could be mature. I'm a little bit older than him, you feel me? So it's like, all right, you posted a little video that people posted of me months ago. So I already went through all that. So it was like, you really didn't do nothing to hurt me, you feel me? which he thought he did. But a lot of these guys look up to me. I've been doing what I'm doing out there in Long Island
Starting point is 02:54:08 when it comes to the social media shit for years. So a lot of these guys know, oh, let me get next to Coco and, or let me get a viral moment. But I guess I get under people's skin. You feel, me? People feel like they want to embarrass me. Do you feel like Trap Lynn set you up, bro?
Starting point is 02:54:26 50%? Yeah, 50% no. I feel like I'm going to lie. Hold on, no. I'm not going to say. he set me up, but I'm going to say that he knew the possibility of what can happen, and I feel like he could have had a
Starting point is 02:54:41 situation to where that wouldn't happen. But to be fair, you knew those, you knew those same circumstances as well, though, right? Yeah, I did. And I'm not, I'm not, you don't have to be complaining? I mean, this whole thing seems like complaining, if I'm going to be completely honest. Hey, by the way, I guess the guy
Starting point is 02:54:59 name is Young Votto. He did an interview on No Jumper. What did you think about that? Like, they quickly platformed him. Like, he was, like, the new, like, Sharkeeshah type of thing. You get what I'm saying? I'm not going to lie to you. I don't, I didn't watch that because I'm like,
Starting point is 02:55:12 yo, number one, stop pulling me to this. Hold on, no. Before he was up there, before he was up there, they called me, trapped him, called me, called me, you, and Vado. And I'm over there, like, yo, bro, what do you mean? Do I want to go up there with me, you and Vado? Like, I'm not no, now y'all y'all niggas is weird
Starting point is 02:55:29 because if a nigger push you in your face, would you want to go and say, that across the of course for me and talk about this shit y'all niggas is on some clout shit this is not i'm not on no entertainment clout shit like that for y'all niggas like so how about the people who support like all right if y'all niggas is doing an interview with this kid invite me over there to do the interview too i looked at pretty flaco whiz he got fat guys word no not too much on flaco let me ask you a question what about the people who support you Do they feel like
Starting point is 02:56:03 Damn, dog, what we thought you was like that And this happened or they're like, bro, this could happen And what are the like your supporters and audience saying? Well, there's a lot of people that wanted to see that happen to me Because when things happen to them, I'm posting it and things like that And like I said, I talked shit to a lot of people and Nobody ever put their hands on me wherever the case may be So we knew Coco not no gangster, nigga, like we
Starting point is 02:56:29 Yeah, like we know. So he knew how they feel. They feel, it would have been different if he would have looked at me, so looked at me in the face, punched me in my face, and it beat me up and I didn't do anything. But they, I defended myself. Like I said, when you, when you, when you win the hood, bro, you're not going to win every single fight.
Starting point is 02:56:47 And like I said, as you can see, I got snuck. I did the, I got snuck. And as you can see on the, on a video, I defended myself. I ain't just sit there with, oh, damn. We didn't expect it to happen, like, no funny shit. We expected it to happen. But I just. feel like the way that it happened, the place that it happened, that was just weird.
Starting point is 02:57:04 Like, you know, like, Traplin, the nigga, he, he, he put itself out to, like, he helps Coco. He helps Coco. He just invited Coco to fucking, to Celebrities basketball game. Then they tried to jump Coco at the celebrity basketball. Yeah, every time I go to something that Trapland invite me, though, I'm getting into some shit. Yeah, like, you know, like, I just need to understand. So this wasn't the first time you felt like you was getting set up. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:57:30 It wasn't. And like, I'm telling y'all, what, and the lane that I'm in when it comes to this shit, I'm one of the biggest in Long Island. And like I said, a lot of these people try to, like, I don't, I don't know. I don't want to say, like, try to test, test my energy or whatever the case may be. I don't know. Word. I don't be there. And I'm still outside.
Starting point is 02:57:51 I'm just, I'm just here trying to understand. Because I feel like there's a lack of accountability. Also, I'm with you, Kyrie. I'm with you. I keep on telling the nigga, why the fuck you keep on going over there? Wait, how was it a lack of accountability? I understood. I didn't have a gun with you.
Starting point is 02:58:09 I understood what. It is in New York City. I understood I understood that I understood that I should have. You feel me? Like, yeah, hold on. What do you mean lack of accountability? Everybody, by an honest question. You understand that.
Starting point is 02:58:21 My question to you would be, what's the point in purpose and value and speaking on what happened after the fact if we can't see it it only it doesn't really look it doesn't bode well look well on your end to just be talking about something that we can't see after seeing it I'm just being on oh yeah
Starting point is 02:58:42 I'll understand that that's why I stopped going back and forth with people on the internet because I'm realizing that they're only speaking on what they saw on the video type shit okay by the way by the way when during the moment before the punch or anything happened there's always like a demeanor
Starting point is 02:59:01 about a nigga who's about a snap and that nigga had his arms up and he kind of looked like he looked like the nigga who was either sizing you up but that yo if I'm wilding out and I see a nigga doing like that I'm gonna tone it down a little bit because that nigga do
Starting point is 02:59:17 look like he's about to do something. Nah, I'm not going to be out of you I was with it all. I was with it all. He was listen but that's what he got from you. He got that you was with it and that's why I asked you if you felt like it was just showing out of
Starting point is 02:59:31 you was up, babo in your hand, hunched over him, you know, your demeanor gave off that. Your demeanor gave off that. That's all I'm saying, in my opinion. Yeah, and you know why, and hold on,
Starting point is 02:59:46 and you know why my demeanor gave off that after a while? Because after a while he started disrespected me. I was never disrespected him. All I was doing was talking truth. I mean, you was talking about the truth. You was talking a stand-up truth, man. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:00:03 Yeah Yeah After after after Hold on you Why nobody talking about How I was Disrespected first though Because that's not on the clip game
Starting point is 03:00:10 All they see You can even if you were Disrespecting You know Well don't know All they saw was you Getting the Sonic rings Not out of you
Starting point is 03:00:20 Bro No but we know But a lot of people Both of them sitting down Well I'm not gonna lie of you And some of y'all Would have caught the cops though
Starting point is 03:00:27 But continue But I'm saying No I was both sitting down sitting down going back and forth originally. Yo, Coco, I don't go for what these niggas say. I see you try to hit him with the leglock when he was trying to get away because he hit you
Starting point is 03:00:41 and he was trying to get out of there. You were trying to hit him with the leglock. Yo, shout out to my nigga Rick Flet, man. Yeah, I see you try it with a leglock, but he started backpelling. He's getting out of the frame. I see him. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:00:53 I see. There's no rules when he comes to fight, Coco, I understand. Yo, when he hit me, and he saw that he had knocked me out, y'all didn't see his face? He tried to get up. bad at it is. He ain't know what to do after that. Yo, Coco, I'm gonna keep it up being with you. I knew you meant business.
Starting point is 03:01:06 Because, nigger, this is the first time we ever seen in New York City history. A nigger hat flew off and it landed on the ground and nobody picked it up. You went straight after that, nigga. You chase him to the parking line, didn't you? I ain't care. Nothing about that. You chased him to the parking line.
Starting point is 03:01:21 Oh, damn. And Coco, get you're a white bitch and have her to hold a gun. So whenever that she had to the next time, you don't get worried about nothing. What you said? It looked like you kind of Charlie Hurst, when you grabbed your leg, like shit locked up. Is this shit lock up? Nah, because you got to understand.
Starting point is 03:01:37 When he hit me, I guess my drink fell over, so it was mad. It was mad wet on the floor. So when I locked it, I had to lock it so I can get grip. You feel me? Like, it wasn't easy trying to wrap my leg around that. You feel me? You got to get a tight
Starting point is 03:01:54 pull on that. Pause. Yeah, you know what? Anyway, yo, gang, I just feel like you got to, you know, Coco, do you regret? Coco, do you regret, like, you know, again, you know, like body language, do you regret not keeping your eyes on him?
Starting point is 03:02:14 Because he did hit you to the blindsided shot when you weren't looking at him. Like, you're doing your thing, but you're also knowing that this is on camera, so you're not like doing some weird awkward shit, just looking him in the face the whole time. You're doing your thing. Do you regret not like, you know, kind of keeping that eye contact on him because he probably wouldn't have got that off. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:02:36 Or as soon as he probably got up, you would have probably been like, all right, what are we doing? Right? Well, I wanted to get my point across. I was talking to the people now. I was looking at him. I was looking at him from the corner of my eye, but it was like, yo, it is what it is.
Starting point is 03:02:54 And like I said, even when he hit me, it didn't hurt. Yo, I was looking at him from the corner of my eye, like when I'm talking, the whole time when I'm talking into the camera, just in case he did want to do what he was trying to do. Why you ain't moved when he swung in, nigga? You said why I didn't move when he swung?
Starting point is 03:03:13 If you're saying that you've seen him, yo, bro, if you watch it now, if you're watching the video now when you see me at that point, yo, and who's over there laughing, bro? Because y'all would have caught the cops. Y'all would have pressed charges, though. I wouldn't call the cops. I definitely would.
Starting point is 03:03:28 Exactly. So, word, just, just chill. but as you see when he hit me I was getting over I was in my animation mode you feel me like I think people just think like because we I asked you did you if the shoe was on our foot would you would have thought that you were prepared
Starting point is 03:03:44 you gave off that energy so you kind of said you were aware that that shit was possibly about to go down you know what I'm saying yeah yeah I was I was with it I was with it word so you wanted to get knocked I'm gonna keep it a buck with you know I don't like I don't think after that interview I don't think that we would have just walked away, shook hands, and nah, nah.
Starting point is 03:04:05 It would have been a fight after that regardless. So he caught you lacking at that point, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, basically. You knew you was at that point when you were standing up talking like that. I think as me from the way I'm from, if I see a nigga talking like that, at that point, I know what's about to go down. You know what I'm saying? Hey, by the way, I also want to point out if Coco wasn't like, you know,
Starting point is 03:04:26 remember he's doing his thing for the camera. if Coco wasn't in that position, no ditty, like I don't think he gets knocked over too. You know what I mean? Like if he's just standing up straight, like it's making it like this nigga hit him with Thor's hammer. Like, you know what I mean? Like knocked him to the ground.
Starting point is 03:04:43 Like I think because, you know, he's like bending over, pause. And he's like, you know, like, yo, nobody even blah, blah, blah. The dude co-clocked him from an angle at the right time. That's the reason why he got knocked down. I don't really think. Yeah. No, I won't put it a power punch. You're acting
Starting point is 03:04:59 I ain't going to lie, gang Your legs was already kind of wobbly When you first stood up You was kind of doing like a double step So I was like he looked like he already drunk I ain't gone out of you I'm a lightweight bro Yeah yeah
Starting point is 03:05:08 It definitely looked like you Like you was You know what I'm saying You got up You were already kind of Fuck all that Don't tell me this nigga Broke the cardier glasses gang
Starting point is 03:05:19 Yeah Nah Nah No those was actually Malik The pre glasses from Long Island And yeah now Those is snap
Starting point is 03:05:27 Those is finished. Oh, you got to get back on this nigga. Oh. Hey, my dad said that. I say he needs to be in the block. Yo, yo, yo, I go aloud. It don't look like you're the same weight class. Yo, you might have to catch a fade with his man that's your weight class and give him, like, your man.
Starting point is 03:05:46 Pause. Like, you might have to do a double fade. You know what I mean? Them niggas holland. I don't know, bro. You got height on him, though. So that height usually adds a couple of y'all probably the same way. Now, Coco's skinny.
Starting point is 03:05:57 though. You're skinny, but he got taller, though. You know what I'm saying? He's not TRT. I thought I just pooped the nigger and I, and I did, but his body weight made me hit my head on the fucking concrete. That's a big boy. So you said you punched him and he was so heavy
Starting point is 03:06:13 that you hit the concrete? I have to punch him. Hey, Coco, if you need me to knock somebody out, I'll be in New York. He had a medical staff that I was mild concussed. Hey, Coco, I'll be in New York for New York for New York Fashion Week. If you want me to come run out with them niggas on you, I got you, no ditty. Nah, I'm good, bro.
Starting point is 03:06:29 Don't get your help in trouble. I'm not going to get in trouble. Hey, by the way, so how is this, like, affected or, like, impacted everything? I know you probably still do your broadcast or whatever. Like, are you seen more people, like, showing up?
Starting point is 03:06:45 Are people just clowning you? Like, what's the situation? More people are clowning me than anything, but it is what it is, you feel on me? at least they're paying attention we're going to see what happens next so the viewership
Starting point is 03:07:05 has increased from it right a situation like that a situation like that happens a lot we see videos like that worse you feel me like that ain't about nothing and if I would have got knocked out this would have been a different story but as you could see I took that like a
Starting point is 03:07:21 you feel me I took that like a man word now real quick I'm from the hood too so I got to ask if it's not about nothing Nothing. What is the point of bringing this up here on this blog? I'm just, I just need to understand. It's a viral moment. It's a viral moment still. You know what I mean? No, I'm saying the him hitting me wasn't about nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:07:41 No, I'm trying to understand. Like that. It's the purpose to bring this up is to call out the dude in the middle who is a bad referee for this situation. My man with the dress would kind of look like a, uh, uh, uh, who you look like somebody I know. but dude in the middle of the mind. So what it is? It definitely was dead for it too. Yeah, because not only
Starting point is 03:08:01 when he broke it up, he was dead or just laying on top of you. So you still, you didn't get up to tell you shit. That's kind of fucked up. And you was arguing. He was reading. Man,
Starting point is 03:08:07 I don't go lie. I would ask to run my wife. No, I actually, I actually punched him in his face if you go back and watch the video. Oh, so you punched him in his face. Yes.
Starting point is 03:08:16 That's how he got up off me. Oh, okay. Okay. I was like. And then when he tried to get up off me, that's when I tried to wrap my legs. well, I did wrap my legs around his leg.
Starting point is 03:08:27 I was trying to snap. I was trying to snap all. Wait, wait, wait, wait, Coco, how are they saying you caught a concussion from that one hit or from some shit outside? No, when I hit my head on the concrete. Oh. And I was making a little joke.
Starting point is 03:08:44 I said, because the medical staff said I could be mild concussed. Ain't nothing to happen, but a busted lip in my first nose bleed ever. That shit ain't Look good on camera though And he Are there's what this shit I mean
Starting point is 03:09:00 Oh no Oh no Oh no Oh no This is No serious damage though Right I just want to make sure
Starting point is 03:09:06 Like You're not about Turn into like You know what I mean Antonio Brown And then This ain't no CTE type shit is it
Starting point is 03:09:11 Nah bro Hmm I don't think he got Long Stantic concussion From this one punch But I'm the niggas
Starting point is 03:09:20 Like Turned an Antonio Oh Yo yo yo By the way By the way Let me just give Coco a little bit of credit. Listen, when you've been undefeated on camera for a long time,
Starting point is 03:09:29 bro, I'm pretty sure you got mad other clips. Are you talking crazy niggins is just there? Crazy. This nigga is crazy. And of course, the first time a nigga does something is the biggest clip in the world, right? Which is like, why nobody made it go viral when I was violating this nigga, this nigga and this thing and this thing and nothing happened. But as soon as something...
Starting point is 03:09:50 And everybody was waiting for this shit to happen. So when it did happen, everybody's reposting and shit like that. It's like, wait, hold on. I remember when this happened to you. You felt me so. It ain't about nothing, bro. Yeah, I got what they wanted. They got what they wanted.
Starting point is 03:10:06 That, I'm saying? So you came here to announce that they got what they want. I'm just trying to understand, man. I really don't get it. What do you want me to say? I'm going to go, I'm going to go take this head off. I'm going to shoot him. What do you want me to say?
Starting point is 03:10:23 you say nothing about it and just handle yours when you handle yours, but talking about it way it didn't prove does you any justice? Nah, it ain't even that. Carrey's more. The thing is going to sit up here at lap. I'm just keeping it. I ain't going on to you.
Starting point is 03:10:34 People had questions, right? Yeah, that's cool. Like, of course the chat going on live, bro. You know, you know, chat niggas. But it's still like, bro, this is shit that nigga go through every day off this shit, bro. Like, these niggas, like, they only they, bro, the other day,
Starting point is 03:10:48 I just had Coco and Traplin, homie in the studio. the day, nigga, he came with his security. King PIB, that's my dog, but it was, it was it, nigga, ain't nobody disrespect Coco. What I'm saying, if my wheelchair ass was there, nigga, it would have been a lot of respect thrown around, nigga,
Starting point is 03:11:05 and I feel like they did that because Coco don't, you understand what I'm saying. I understand what you say. I'm going to repeat back what you just said, unless you know how it sounds to the chat. You just said a grown man, tall as hell, who just got knocked out, if you, a person in the wheelchair was there, none of that would have happened.
Starting point is 03:11:23 Nick, it wouldn't have happened. I'm just talking about it. You know my body? Wait, what do you mean? No, Kyrie. What's your chat right now? I'm telling y'all what it sounds like. I'm just telling y'all what it sounds like to the chat.
Starting point is 03:11:35 I'm just being honest with you. Y'all, y'all don't be mad. I was just on the phone with niggas. And niggas were just copping the pleas. Bro, that's what I'm trying to tell you, nigga. I was just, and I ain't even trying to get into that. I don't even want to speak on that. But niggas are just cop and please to this nigga in a wheelchair on the phone.
Starting point is 03:11:50 Niggas don't want me to get mad. Like, they ain't want you. I thought Trappelin set me up. I swear up with Trappman. You got to realize this is only going to get more violence. You're going to be able to get more violence. You squared up with the guy who was the middleman? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:12:06 And what he said? You copped the plea? My people were calling me. My people were calling me on the phone. And like I said, after the other guy ended up running back to get his people, it was only Trappelin left. He was on the island by itself. So I'm walking across the street.
Starting point is 03:12:23 I think I had a lead light or something. I'm about to whack him because I'm like, yo, you set me up. And he's like, no, he set you up. Like I said, he ran inside and locked the door.
Starting point is 03:12:33 And then that's when I went over to the other guy with the bottom. And that's when all his people started coming up. And we not, and I'm not trying to push violence. I really just want to push peace. What I was, what I was telling Trappling was you can't, like,
Starting point is 03:12:45 you got to make sure that these niggas go, like at just the establishment, it shouldn't have happened. That's my whole thing. You feel me? Like, it just shouldn't happen at the establishment, bro. Hey. If it would have happened outside, cool.
Starting point is 03:12:57 Hey, hey, Coco, are you thinking at this point? You got to, because, you know, this happens a lot of hip-hop, where somebody, either they get robbed or something happened. And now you're like, the next nigger I catch, I got to make an example out of him. You feel I mean? You need an example right now. Oh, no, no, facts.
Starting point is 03:13:16 And you know how, you know how what I compare it to? You know how when you had the interview. with Wack and Hassan Campbell and Hassan Campbell was saying like if he would have went by himself he felt like he would have been backdoor
Starting point is 03:13:31 by Wack 100 you feel me that's how I felt like in the situation in the situation I didn't have my people was on the way they didn't get there in time
Starting point is 03:13:41 yeah back though yeah all right so hold on and then like I said and then when I'm going over there to them and they reach it in their bags I'm thinking of the King Vaugh Vaugh situation too
Starting point is 03:13:53 because I'm like yo hold up The whole time these things are trying to get a name, you feel me? So, horror. Yeah, yeah, no, no. It's deeper than what everybody seen on the video, bro. I'm going to be honest with you. The way you were talking, by the way you hit the ground, like, I actually thought you were going to reach for, like, you know, something.
Starting point is 03:14:16 Like, because. No, but this is what I'm telling you. That's what I was trying to do. People don't understand. Like, I don't care who is. listening but you don't understand I got... Don't say it. Don't say. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:14:31 Like, word, like, word, word. Again, if you're going to do that, I don't think y'all should bring this up if y'all going to do that right there. Like, you're not going to say, like, again, it just don't look good doing all of this. I'm just being honest. That look crazy. So you think, you think, you think,
Starting point is 03:14:47 you think, me and Copa look pussy? What do you think? Yes. Lopez and Wallet. Yes. Yes. I don't say, I don't say, hey, hey, act. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm going with a situation that did go viral too.
Starting point is 03:15:02 So the whole, like, Brick Baby situation. So you know how I was involved in that. I had to do, I had to go do, I had to go do radio with Big Carolina. Wait, what happened? And Brick Baby scared a square up. Wait, what happened? I was like I wanted to fame. Wait, you wanted a square.
Starting point is 03:15:17 And he was talking crazy when Younger A's came to the Carolinas. Wait. Wait. Rick baby ducked a fade with you Bruh Bruh he dumped the Faye you know what he did So He reported my
Starting point is 03:15:32 Instagram live when I went off on him So I couldn't go up on the live With him and Big Carolina And Young and Ace homie Because he felt Big Carolina When I made the video on my IG And Big Carolina was in my comments And Big Carolina was like
Starting point is 03:15:49 Oh I'm trying to keep the peace in the Carolinas And me and Big Carolina had to go to Raleigh, North Carolina, and do a whole interview on the radio, talking about the whole situation, because there was gang members around here thinking that we're sitting up, setting up camp, watching Young and A-N-A-S and stuff around here.
Starting point is 03:16:08 Hit A-D. A-D. said, that's not my department. Toflocco, Toramo. Niggas, scared to say something. But he's watching my stuff. Man. Wait, so, hold on. Are you challenging Brick? You know, Brick, he's like the second, the top.
Starting point is 03:16:24 He's like the number two Crip in America, right? Brough, he the only great Crip I ever heard of my whole entire life. Well, here's the thing, man. All right. I think Brick Baby right now, he has some problem with some guy named Luce Cannon. Yo, Luce Cannon is hilarious. I've been watching that guy.
Starting point is 03:16:40 That guy's hilarious. Yo, every day I load up my YouTube and this thing of Lose Cannon is like, he'd be like, yo, he'd be like, sweetie pie. Like, that thing would be calling, that thing would be calling his ops. all type of dessert. Like, it's all dessert. A sugar plum. Hey, hey, like, hey, strawberry. Like, it's all type.
Starting point is 03:17:04 It's hilarious as hell. Anyway, uh, all right. Yo, yo, Coco, what's next for you, bro? And, and how could people find your show? Like, because I was trying to find your YouTube page. I couldn't find it. What did you say? Like, what's next for you and how could people find your YouTube page? Um, you can go on my Instagram. You can find it on my Instagram. And what's next? And what's next? for me. I'm about to start, like I said, I'm about to start doing more interviews and stuff like that, bro.
Starting point is 03:17:33 Like I said, a lot of these, a lot of these people in Long Island, they look at this stuff as a competition and stuff like that. I don't look at it like that. Like, I feel like when I'm doing certain interviews and I'm doing certain stuff, I'm looking out for everybody. Like, maybe if this person, like, yo, you can go to this platform and stuff like that because, you know, people in Long Island, our platforms are not as big as other people, you feel me? Everybody is coming up. So it'd be hard. As you can see, certain shit that's happening. People want me to be looked at as I'm looked at now because I have a bigger name than a lot of people when it comes to the shit.
Starting point is 03:18:07 Hey, I also want to ask this question because I think I was watching this young Vado guy talk on a jump in. Apparently he said, he said your original feud wasn't with him. He said he's the one who showed up, but it was with someone else. Is that true? Yeah, I was. And I don't want to give them no light. Like I said, when it comes to Long Island, I was going viral with what I was. going viral with what I was doing.
Starting point is 03:18:28 So a lot of these people that was coming up. You're the top dog of Long Island. Yeah. So a lot of these people, when they're coming up with their podcasts and things like that, I'm usually their first episode type shit, literally. So, word. So, and like I said before,
Starting point is 03:18:43 you look on, you look on trapland shit. My interview is the biggest one. As you can see, it ain't no other interview going to go as viral as this one. For word. Okay. All right, man.
Starting point is 03:18:56 I definitely wish you the best of luck. Like, again, obviously not the best scenario for you to explain, but shit, you know what I mean? Hey, bro, you had a four-year-street. Niggas, niggas never said nothing. Everybody take a L once in a while. No, no, no, it's not like, it could happen to,
Starting point is 03:19:13 like, truthfully, it could happen to anybody. Like, put it like this. It's one of those things where, like, you just hope that if some bullshit do happen, you get to spin it into some good content that you could capitalize off. Like as long as it gets you more lit You know what I mean? Again, bro, it's a content game
Starting point is 03:19:29 Like you know what I mean like Yeah But it's a content game But at the end of the day I don't want it to be a content game In the expense of me And I'm not gonna lot of you act like I'm gonna keep it a buck
Starting point is 03:19:40 My four years streak still going strong Because there still ain't been anybody To look at me and hit me You feel me? Yo, Colt Get your fuck out of here You know listen y'all This is still on.
Starting point is 03:19:54 I'm fucking You know, your brother. The four-year-street can snap. Word. Not a four-year-street. Let me not jinx myself. Not in. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:20:04 I'm going to the Carolina. We got a big black. Let me not joke for a little. There's like, we're watching the clip right now. We go. Come to Carolinas. I got a lot of crazy stuff going on, bro. Hey, the legends in the Carolina,
Starting point is 03:20:20 all the big artists that y'all know from the Carolinas then told me I'm the voice of the Carolinas. I got going on right now. Yeah, yeah, you is the boy. We can wake up a long as you ain't trying back door me. You feel me? No, no, no. I'm my people.
Starting point is 03:20:33 I'm my people. Like, nigga, whatever the biggest name in the Carolinas tell you on your birthday on Monday, nigga, you're the voice of the Carolinas coming up. Nigger. Nobody's brewing. Nobody bigger. No, Coco, Coco. We got to get you to admit, brother.
Starting point is 03:20:49 The streak ended, but you got a new streak now. Like, the street is. Just admit that, Coco. Just admit that. Please. Please, Dave. Ah, yeah,
Starting point is 03:20:57 yeah, the streak ended, man. He admitted that he was lacking. Yeah, you got news street of like a month. And then in Long Island,
Starting point is 03:21:03 man. Yeah, Hey, Hey, but Coco, why was that even beefing in the first place?
Starting point is 03:21:08 No, we'll be over that. We over that. Yo, before you go, Nick, you need to say, nobody bigger
Starting point is 03:21:13 than a fucking chat, nigga. Well, nobody bigger than his cat. Word. Yo, yo, you,
Starting point is 03:21:18 yo, Coco, take it easy on them because I know you're going to try to make a couple examples.
Starting point is 03:21:22 just, you know, don't do overdo it. All right? I got you. And have security next time. Of course. Yeah, how that wheelchair,
Starting point is 03:21:32 nigger. Bring that wheelchair, nigger with you. It's a learning process, man. It's a learning process. Like, you,
Starting point is 03:21:39 you know, also, man, sometimes you never really know you, you never really think you need security until the time you need security. Because I'm guarantee
Starting point is 03:21:48 when you were showing up there, you'd be like, man, this nigga ain't on shit, nigger. Like, we're going, whatever,
Starting point is 03:21:52 but if he was if he want to really get into it we could get into it off camera and obviously this should have it on camera you know what I'm saying whatever yeah exactly which is what he wanted but hey cloud choices will be cloud chasers nobody bigger than the chat yeah I got a hip-hop question for you what's good with you okay between the artists you were talking about earlier yachtie cardi and uzi if you were to make a greatest hits album for each other three, who do you think would have the best album? Is the criteria? Uzi.
Starting point is 03:22:29 You can't, you can only pick two songs from each of their projects. And no more than five singles. Say it again, say it again, say it again. You can only pick two songs from each of their projects to create the greatest hits project from each of the three. Who do you think would have the best? What's the options? Yeah, where the song?
Starting point is 03:22:51 You can pick any song. from a project to create a greatest hits project. Yeah, yeah. What are the artists are? Or Yadi, you said? Oh, Uzi. It's not going to be Uzi and Yadi. Who do you think you have the best
Starting point is 03:23:03 greatest hits project? Uzi going crazy. Yeah, I agree with Uzi. I got to go with Uzi. You know what I see? I got to go to Uzi. Hey, yo, hey, yo, I was with Worry.
Starting point is 03:23:18 I was with Vori, bass swag, and what is your favorite Uzi? Who was the album? I think I got to go with Love is Rage. I forgot. I was that like an interesting... Yo, I remember me being on Everyday Struggle
Starting point is 03:23:36 saying that, yo, that was a breakup album. That really is a breakup album. Like, that nigga was going through a breakup with, you know... He made that album while he was transitioning out of that, you know, money longer, whatever type of wave where he was with Brittany and he was breaking up. the girl he was who knew him like pretty much half his life he was like I think I was going through a breakup at that time
Starting point is 03:23:57 too like half of them songs is breakup songs bro I remember I said that on everyday struggling Joe looked at me like I was crazy he'll be like niggit this is what you think a breakup album sounds like but the content of the album is breakup album yeah hey yo hey so
Starting point is 03:24:13 hey yo at so I was with on Ruby Rose Boree and bass swag the other week so when I met this nigga Bory you know this nigga Towers you know what this nigga told me. He said that nigga Fax probably one of the most realest niggas ever. And that nigga Vory was like,
Starting point is 03:24:25 ain't nobody bigger than the chat. Oh, oh. No, no, no, no. He definitely tapped in. He definitely tapped it. I'll ask you out this question. I don't want to, I feel like I've talked about it at nauseam.
Starting point is 03:24:37 But I do want to, because sometimes people feel like I'm just like so delusional or one side, I guess. What do y'all think about these Drake songs? Y'all could go one at a time. I won't even jump in. I think Drake is
Starting point is 03:24:49 testing independent. I think he's doing a little bit of data farming. In my opinion, it seems like these records in some way seem to be a protest to the labels on a bigger conversation type lane. I think
Starting point is 03:25:09 moving forward, Drake's at a point where he might just start releasing these three packs in a way to kind of just like, he's going to be making momentary music from now on in the sense, like, I'm going to drop three packs just to suffice you niggas because at a certain point you get to a point where like you can't please niggas anyway so what's the point of doing
Starting point is 03:25:27 the whole album especially when you got this interesting licensing deal or whatever the case may be I just find it very interesting him not only dropping the 100 gigs but then using this new Instagram as he's using it I think I think Drake is in a
Starting point is 03:25:43 situation that he's never been in before his career right now like with his back against the wall coming off the beef with Drake I feel like he's trying to do stuff differently right now. I mean, it's the goat, right? Like, I'm gonna be honest, guys, like, to me, like, I just posted all his music in my Discord to kind of, like, get it more lit because people are not really talking.
Starting point is 03:26:02 I just don't think he missed. Like, it's up. Blue, green, red, love that. Really spoke to me on some goat shit, like, rhythm. Like, I don't, like, personally, I know you're kind of saying, like, you don't really like this style of Drake when you just kind of throws. But to be honest, like, when I think back, I don't think he missed. So, I really hope you guys kind of comes back.
Starting point is 03:26:18 Like, it's on some tough shit, but it's just all up for Drake. So, he definitely got to eat somewhere in the took. But I think coming off that battle with Kendrick, it's like majority of the people, well, at least from how I view, and majority of people probably have their back against them. Like, they're probably used to be fans, but now of a sudden, now Kendrick said what he said, now people don't really want to rock with him no more. I think he's trying to, he's just testing the orders right now. I don't think he's ever been in this situation.
Starting point is 03:26:47 He's always been on like, like, the offense or, or, or, or, Like when it comes to like, like, when he did his battle with me, it wasn't, it wasn't like, he was shitting on me. He was destroying me. But with his chemistry, it's different. And I know I said I was going to really interject, but I'll say this. Now, I just want you out to kind of like react to it. Drake is, Drake is, I don't think he's necessarily having a thing about, oh, I'm putting out.
Starting point is 03:27:15 The music is, is an attempt to me to fight a narrative. And that's really what it is, right? Like, there wasn't no time that people have said that Drake is dropping whack music. So what are these music to serve? It's to basically kind of crush the narrative, a change of narrative that based on how some people perceive the battle, that Drake's career is different or whatever. So it's like, this is like a test case. we all know there's this one line
Starting point is 03:27:52 everybody always says you can't fight the internet I also believe that would not like us came out like you just you had to fall back and let that have a run for a while
Starting point is 03:28:02 and I mean you could argue that still having this run it's still at number three but is it possible that Drake could change the narrative by dropping music or does he have to
Starting point is 03:28:14 utilize time and wait until people will allow the narrative to change naturally. I see both of them. I'm not going to lie. I don't think anytime soon people are going to let up on the whole A minor thing. I think he's just, he has to drop under the album music and just go from there because he's a hitmaker where Drake is a hitmaker.
Starting point is 03:28:36 Drake is going to drop another hit eventually. Like, whether you like him or not, he's going to drop another hit. But I just think he is under the album music. I shared a sense. I adapt some of the things that Kyrie said earlier, though. I don't think we see that he's challenging. Like, he's doing something with this industry right now,
Starting point is 03:28:56 and I think he's having a battle there more or less than anywhere else. I don't think it's about the fans or anything for him. We know Drake has a core fan base that's going to always live on. The music is good. But he's fighting something else. I feel, like I said, I think it has to do with the industry. I feel like that challenging. As fans, I think you guys tend to mark.
Starting point is 03:29:16 marginalize the conversation to like, oh, who's making better music? But at the end of the day, before this shit started, we knew niggins are going to go back to doing what they already did. I think it's more interesting as the way that he's doing it. You know what I'm saying? Because again, like, right, act like for instance, right? If you drop music on Instagram, what, two days, three days, maybe a week before it comes out, it doesn't, it seems interesting. You know what I'm saying? Exactly.
Starting point is 03:29:43 It seems like a protest, in my opinion. That's how I feel, you know, the money going to go with the company regardless because of the fact that it's, you know, they got the license in. But like, you don't see it interesting that he's putting it out on Instagram first, allowing it to do these numbers on Instagram and not just put it out on DSPs. You don't find that interesting? No, no, no. I think Drake has always tested music in certain ways. I think this is a great way for him to test music. Instagram.
Starting point is 03:30:13 Again, is it testing? if the whole song comes out because people keep saying using the word snippet. These are not snippets. This is a release of a song. And he posted that screenshot. Like everything he does is strategic. It's got a media. He posted that screenshot showing that the label clipped him, you know,
Starting point is 03:30:29 and they made him re-uploaded. You know, the correct way so they can get paid. And then he does it again. I see where you're coming from, Karina. I just want to say it's going to hurt his numbers too doing this. So I kind of like, you guys are making me think that. Like, he's not really like, he is trying to get
Starting point is 03:30:44 hit i think you know like you guys are saying that it's gonna go like viral at the same time man like bro just went through something like very hard and his a point was it was like really skilled and it was a good fight but you got to just kind of express itself and just kind of like and he's talking like i like every single track he he's doing it like he's doing it like i just think we're it's not a rabbit hole though i i think we're too far down the rabbit hole where like you know i've i've thought this Imagine if Drake didn't drop nothing. And Drake, you know, the battle has been over in May, right?
Starting point is 03:31:20 So it's May, June, July. We're in August. So it's three months. September, October. If he pops up in October with one song, it doesn't have to be a complete song. Just a song that's a preview, but it's like, yo, he's rapping. And he's talking about what's been, like, I think if his goal is,
Starting point is 03:31:44 impact. I think strategically, that's more impactful. Like, just like, and I hate to, I hate to compare him to Kendrick, but Kendrick, like, Kendrick's moment to shine or moment to strike is almost extended to another year just because people are still on standby to say, what is he going to say? because it's going to be the first thing he says. I think Drake has dropped so much music that we're no longer in the what's his thoughts or what's his next move. We're getting a little bit drowned.
Starting point is 03:32:27 And I hate to say this because I'm a fan because I want more music. But we might be getting drowned out by it, right? Well, that's what I was saying earlier about the momentary music thing. I meant more like in a way of like, I think the music he's putting out now seems to be current in the sense that it's,
Starting point is 03:32:42 like referencing current moments and I can see him moving forward by I understand like y'all can't please everybody obviously what's the point in trying to when I could just release songs and just keep doing that and put my foot in these niggas neither way I'm still got my I do agree with acto
Starting point is 03:32:58 that he kind of is pushing against like the grain a little bit like he kind of really is like trying to move a boulder up a hill but at the same time man I'm like I keep so I'm jammed you think these are throwaways then like you just think these are throwaways then to something No face is not true.
Starting point is 03:33:13 Hold on a lot. I'm not saying necessarily throwaways, but I think throwaways like whatever he's going to put towards an album maybe or. Okay. You know, he's a big home. All right. Hold on.
Starting point is 03:33:23 So, so this is where I'm saying. I think Drake, you know, and I don't know if maybe the, the talks of, oh, nah,
Starting point is 03:33:33 his career ain't going to be the same. Maybe that's why he dropped maybe as many records because I'm going to be honest with you, even if he didn't drop a record and he waited two months from now and he dropped, let's say drop no face or even super soaker or even it's up. I guarantee it's the top
Starting point is 03:33:52 five release. Just because it's the first thing he says, right? Because here's the thing. The NBA young boy approach where you keep dropping records after records, after records, yeah, the numbers are going to eventually add up, but they're not going to number one. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:34:09 But again, what in that further the law and thinking that it may be an act of protest against a current situation, business while? No. No, no, no, no, no. I think the question. Just hold the question for a second. I don't think it's an act of protesting. I think this is his modern and updated way of doing what he normally did by dropping songs at, 4 a.m. on OVO blog spot. Do you remember then? And then he used to do the same on SoundCloud, right? So he's always done the
Starting point is 03:34:49 off DSP drop, but the off DSP drop has always been, hey, listen, I'm giving y'all some shit that doesn't make me seem like the very commercialized pop artist that only drops a record that's super promoted on this particular day with a polished video. Do you get me? Now, I hear what you're saying. I heard what you're saying. I saw an interesting comment from somebody. I think his name is purple.
Starting point is 03:35:19 It's purplur. He said, I hope he gets a question it afterwards. Go ahead. Act, please. He said, act please. It's purplor. It says act, please.
Starting point is 03:35:29 It's because UMG is not allowing the music on TikTok. So he drops it like it's a TikTok. so that people can react to it. And that kind of goes into what you're saying as far as like, it's a way of allowing more conversation around something through engagement and interaction. Is that similar? Yeah, no, no, I definitely believe he's dropping it,
Starting point is 03:35:48 like how he's dropping it. And by the way, I think this new meta got created by how, you know, him and Kendrick were dropping. Yeah, yeah, I thought so. Where it's like, hey, listen, the music just goes up phenomenally more when you, like, except I don't think, you know, this is where Drake kind of strays off the same track that we're trying to say he's on,
Starting point is 03:36:11 because you're supposed to drop it like Thursday afternoon and it goes up at midnight, but you gave people like a good 12 hours, or maybe you gave him a day. You don't drop it on Saturday or Friday afternoon and two days later, we're just bumping the shit and it's still not on DSPs. That doesn't seem to be in line with the thinking here. The thinking would be, hey, because of how corporate, I'm going to lie to you, I remember like back in a day, and I said this to Drake too. I said, Drake, I don't even, I told Drake himself, I don't post your snippets anymore on Instagram.
Starting point is 03:36:47 I told him that's way back. Why? It used to be like some snippets of like some DJ playing this song at the club, which you know Drake sent the song to whoever to play. And when you post this snippet, like there's a caption. I probably still up on my page. I said, y'all go to the Twitter to go look at it because UMG are haters, like Drake's label's a hater. Yeah, you could even really put up Drake's snippets. Like, you could put up a Cardi snippet, a young boy snippet.
Starting point is 03:37:15 So I've always thought that his music was never got that almost, that ability to just kind of let the fans fuck with it. I think through the battle he learned that's very important. And I think he's just exploiting it a bit. you know what I mean like he's not making offense to just to showcase old pictures of race car drivers he's realized this is a way to
Starting point is 03:37:40 do it um I just I just want to keep in this point again I'm gonna keep driving this point because I think it's important and I feel like you're avoiding it but
Starting point is 03:37:52 that does again only lead a savvy person music industry wise to think like it might be something going on with that right because it found like that's what she kind of say like the other pre-releases like a lot of things would have to get pre-approved you know I'm saying this is a new time and new territory where I feel like Drake is in a place where he don't got to get shit pre-approval feel like he don't but again I don't see
Starting point is 03:38:18 how this behooves your business partners relationship when like it obviously like it'd be different if he dropped these snippets on a Thursday and the next day it came out yeah yeah yeah but he just he seemed to be living out on on Instagram for a good, well, week or two before they come on. Hey, Drake's relationship with the label, I could say this is 100% as a fact. There is no Drake submits his music
Starting point is 03:38:42 and somebody looks at it and listens and be like, no, Drake's relationship with the label has only been, you give me money, I don't even tell you a release date. Like, you lucky, for maybe a major release, I give you a release date, but I usually,
Starting point is 03:39:00 just turned my music in a week before. Like, I've heard this directly from people at Republic. We have no idea when Drake is dropping. Drake just randomly hits us up with a complete album and says, I'm dropping next week. That's what I've heard. So it's not like, so really what's happening here, I don't think he has a beef with his label.
Starting point is 03:39:28 I think they're constantly playing catch up. Right? I think they're constantly playing catch up. This is a different type of catch up, though. So how do you see this playing out? Hold on. If you saying this is ketchup, how do you see these three songs playing out with the label?
Starting point is 03:39:42 Like the last ones got straight and he took them down and then he had to re-upload him. But like how he's saying, this is not just a day later. This is a week later. Listen, listen. By Monday at 3 o'clock, these joints are going to be scheduled for upload. Factuals. Like, come on, bro. It, bro, it's a corporate,
Starting point is 03:40:02 even though music people do work on a weekend still. I mean, but the powers that be by Monday morning, they're having a meeting at 10 a.m., 9 a.m. They're going to give a call to Mr. Morgan. They're going to give a call to Drake. Hey, we need to get this. We need to get these songs ingested.
Starting point is 03:40:18 Could you send over the master? He's going to send over the master. And then they're going to get those songs ingested for some type of release. Actually, I had heard that, you know, his release. of this, it was going to be music video, right? Music video. And, um,
Starting point is 03:40:39 which by the way, here's the thing to, I hope the music video still drops. I know y'all keep thinking, Drake leaks me all this stuff. You didn't? I found out all this shit on my own. I heard he might scrap the music video because, because like people can't shut up. Yeah, and I was like, oh, don't tell me that. Don't tell me I'd spill the beans that we might like it. I don't think he's going to do that.
Starting point is 03:41:01 I think there's more music video exactly. I don't feel like just. The initial plan I heard, the initial plan I heard was that the music video was going to be coming around Saturday, right? Instead, and also I had heard that he may be dropping other tracks. But I was in disbelief of that. I actually thought that was a lie.
Starting point is 03:41:22 I was just like. He has six tracks. What music video? Hey, Lou, this is my question. This is my question. This is my question. This is a video from SOD. like he did all right damn that was gonna be a awkward one for a
Starting point is 03:41:31 probably at this guy that's it's through the music video a label thing oh no no no it's through the music video I found out Yaddi's on the track okay you get what I'm saying no is he on it no he's not on the track he's not on the track he's not on the and after I leaked that
Starting point is 03:41:49 the lead version is better no I'm sorry and after I leak that information Drake hits me it was just like yo bro how do you find out and I'm like dog Like, nigga, I'm not number one for no reason. Like, nigga, what do you mean? But anyway, hopefully we still get a music video. I just think he's on his, like, he's in his bag.
Starting point is 03:42:07 Like, I think he's just saying a very long text message, you know, after like a breakup type shit. And he just, you know, trying to speak his feelings. Like, you know, we are, we said that he's not, you know, fighting his label. The shit's going to be pre-approved. He's going to upload. I just, may you just have some shit to say. I know. I think he's just in his dog right now.
Starting point is 03:42:21 Just feeling it out, you know. You know, they just, I use my platform for it. So, by the way, by the way, here's the thing, too. I always were calling Cap. I was always calling Cap on Joe Button, except I actually believe Joe Button this time. Joe Button records on Friday. As soon as that niggas done recording,
Starting point is 03:42:43 he did drop it. The song came out on leaked. Remember Joe, Joe went in, like, Joe went in, trust me, I never want to believe that Drake even would schedule or leaked something at that time. I think he definitely leaked it at that point that they couldn't have a word to say about it before their Saturday pot which they do on Friday around 3 o'clock
Starting point is 03:43:06 100%. When we say that during the back of the fourth, he was looking at us like he was crazy. I said that. No, no, Joe said that during the beef and I was just like, Joe, you're too full of yourself. Now in hindsight, I'm like, which, by the way, again, we're assuming here, but if Drey's,
Starting point is 03:43:25 is playing I do have to imagine he's also playing the media game as well right he's like yo you know by the way it's like you know part of the media game like for example if you have that big story you want to um sometimes you want to drop it on Friday that it dominates the whole weekend because there's nothing else going to people don't work on the weekends or you sometimes drop it on Monday to lead off the week the week right so Friday or money you get the biggest stories usually you get what I'm saying um I don't know if that was that was was coincidental, but I did notice I was just like, yeah, no one has given no big media outlet but me has given their pain on this because they're all not at work.
Starting point is 03:44:07 The breakfast club ain't coming back till Monday. You won't get a Joe button podcast till Wednesday. Another one until Wednesday. There's none of these outlets, which, by the way, Joe ain't really, not Joe, I mean, Drake ain't really fucking with him anyway. So I was wondering if the timing was interesting, even though. though Fridays are when we get music, right? We do get music on Fridays, but people kind of drop, like, if you're going to drop,
Starting point is 03:44:32 why not people usually, even if they're dropping the music video, they drop on Thursday afternoon. They drop on Thursday afternoon and it gets on DSP's at midnight. But he dropped on Friday afternoon, I believe. And I was just like, hmm, interesting. Pretty interesting. Hey, Ed, so whenever our artist drops a single, and you know, there was like a time limit, they put on single for it, it can count, for it can count towards an album, any of like a year.
Starting point is 03:44:55 or it's like a couple of months? Oh, no, no, you're asking a good question. So a single is going to contribute to the first week sales. I forgot what the parameters. They put a parameter on it to kind of decentify. Like, I remember French Montana had like a big single. I think it was not good enough. It's, wasn't it?
Starting point is 03:45:23 Unforgettable. and that one single made his first week go crazy because they used to just count they used to count the first week sales in the first week sales the single sales for anything released and I think it was either up to a year or maybe six months and I think he did like 70,000 but pretty much was all the one song um all right if it's six months man Kendrick on the clock better drop the album
Starting point is 03:45:52 I'm gonna be honest I think he's gonna do numbers regardless though Hey and be honest From just your personal From just your personal opinion And like the knowledge that you have The inside of knowledge Do you think this Drake and Kendrick Lamar battle is over?
Starting point is 03:46:08 Oh hell now Hmm Never Hmm Come on Cut it out See this is This is that
Starting point is 03:46:16 That puts a matter That statement right there Is the type of shit that puts a damper on the nigger music No no no It's not over in the in the fact of you won't see both of these guys just continue to make music and ignore each other. You're going to see what happened after even Jay and Nas got into it. You're going to still see records and huge subliminals fly all over the place.
Starting point is 03:46:42 That's what I mean. Now, are we going to go round for round again? Hell not. Like that round for round shit is dead it. Question, because in my opinion, I've listened to the six songs that he dropped since to be. they don't seem to be directly anything that's like necessarily I would even call a shot towards Kendrick
Starting point is 03:46:59 what you're not listening so so hey I don't know on Drake's album you feel like it's like about Kendrick because I don't think they necessarily going towards Kendrick for I think they go to the rest of the field I think they have like the field yeah I get what you say I read it don't seem like they're right but
Starting point is 03:47:18 the rain line on the second verse on red, blue, green is the only one where I think he's referencing Kendrick. Here's the thing, but to Drake, Kendrick is the field. When he states that niggas is hating on me, he believes Kendrick is hate on it. He was specifically talking about niggas who was hating on him that was already around him. Kendrick, for a long time, does not fake anybody but with Drew. He's talking about, when he's talking about niggas got lit off my feet, he's talking about the field. And Kendrick is part of the field.
Starting point is 03:47:48 like uh dra everybody he's helped right he's like yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 03:47:55 you're making it about that I don't see hold on Drake's this position this whole time is yo
Starting point is 03:48:01 I didn't I never really had bad blood with you but you've always either envied me or felt away you sneak this me
Starting point is 03:48:10 a bunch of times you diss me on control you dis me over here and I've oh I couldn't figure out the genesis of our issues when all I've done for you
Starting point is 03:48:20 is put you on my first album and take your ass on tour. That's why he's the field. Now what's the song you're referencing when you said? Are you talking about No Face? I mean, any record, he's generally saying niggas is either showing their two colors
Starting point is 03:48:39 or niggas was jealous. Like, yeah, that goes to Kendrick as well. I don't think that the last one. The rest of the niggas, or you think it's more likely he's going at Kendrick because put like this Kendrick is the closest person that could foreseeably be in his spot but it's not in his spot
Starting point is 03:48:57 Rick Ross can't be jealous at Drake Rick Ross ain't even close to Drake like what are you jealous at Like yeah that's not like like a guy who's number two It could be jealous of number one because he's like damn I should be getting that But I'm close enough I'm just not getting it Yo the nick on the bench Nobody gives a fuck about his jealousy with a star player
Starting point is 03:49:17 Like you know what I mean He's like, bro, shut up stupid ass up. So, like, when I hear jealousy... He said throw shots at Rocky, though. But again, when... On no face, he says, niggas he did features with it. He only got one feature with Kendra.
Starting point is 03:49:29 He's not talking about Kendra. I think you're trying to make it talk about Kendry. He's talking about the rest of the field. No, he got... Ciccadian rhythm is for the beef. I can say that. I think circadian rhythm is a try to... I think it's referencing the beef,
Starting point is 03:49:42 but it doesn't seem like offensive in in regards to Kenjew. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Do you have any information on how the song where Drake and Cardi came together? I want you to go on Instagram and look up Miss underscore Reza-77. And that plays into the whole Kendrick saying he has a daughter thing. It's real interesting. I want to know what you think about that.
Starting point is 03:50:03 So for Kyrie, if I put you on my album, give you a song on my album. And then I also feature on one of your, you know, big hits on your day. How many years ago? It doesn't matter how many years ago? It doesn't matter. No, don't. I ain't a lot. I go like,
Starting point is 03:50:27 Karee coming off like a snake right now. Niga, if I helped you, if I help put you on your feet, nigga initially, don't be like, nah, that don't count no more
Starting point is 03:50:36 that was 25 years ago. What? And great looking at it. It is very, it's very intellectually dishonest because y'all making it seem like these niggas was cool the whole time.
Starting point is 03:50:48 We know they had issues for a long time. So how is it? I never liked them. That's what I'm saying. Y'all made it see like... He just used them. Oh, no face.
Starting point is 03:50:59 Drake is clearly referencing niggas who was fake kicking it with the niggins. Yeah, those people get bars too. Yeah, like Ross. But those are the main thing about, y'all's trying to make it about Kendrick.
Starting point is 03:51:11 And again, I think when y'all do that, y'all, y'all weaken the value of the actual music. Bro, what? bro, bro, I ain't going to lie. Martin Luther Carrey. Acadian rhythm was towards the beef, for sure. It may not been directly to dot, but it was like a conclusion to the beef.
Starting point is 03:51:28 He did that, and he also did that on red, blue, green. Again, I just don't think, if you really analyzing the lyrics, I don't think he's necessarily attacking Kendra. I just think he's referencing the beef in general. Egg, did you pull up the ID account? What idea account? What's it called? It's called Miss underscore.
Starting point is 03:51:46 R-E-Z-A-77. So apparently R-E-Z-A-7. So apparently she posted When the baby wants to play bar Cardi on the song, you make it happen. Hashtag it's a phone call at Eternity Joy 13.
Starting point is 03:52:02 So, Attorney Joy 13 was the little girl who was in the music, the Drake music video. Bro, bro, right. Listen. Yeah. Listen.
Starting point is 03:52:13 Drake, listen, Drake, listen, Drake, don't have a, He doesn't have a second child. I just wanted your opinion. I just wanted you to go look at it and it's good because it's kind of interesting. That's you. Yo, do you think Drake is this good man at hiding the child?
Starting point is 03:52:28 Y'all are acting like this thing. This thing got his hide in a child like Hall of Fame badge like on his difficulty is crazy. I don't believe he's hiding a child, but I'm just saying if somebody had the means to hide a child, it would be here. I feel like personally, though, after. the first go-round, if he had a second child, it's definitely getting exposed.
Starting point is 03:52:53 By now, too. I just want to, I don't know about it. And niggas' lives, bro. Yeah, why do y'all care if he got a second child or not? Yeah, and I'm not saying y'all, but like, like, why doesn't matter? Yeah, I feel you.
Starting point is 03:53:09 I feel you. I feel you. Hey, hey, act, to get these Kendrick Glazers off with Kendrick dick right now. let's talk about how lotto is actually winning the beef against ice spice bro bro do you call that beef bro yeah like what are you talking about hey they ain't even music ice ice is just her look
Starting point is 03:53:28 oh shit no no no no no no fuck yeah yeah we gotta talk about that new y' yeah i was just about to say let's talk about how two six a r is whipping these niggis asses right now bro he's going crazy hey what do you think about the daylight tweet where he spoke about drill music how you feel about that he basically in the short terms he basically was like it's the worst thing
Starting point is 03:53:53 for black people to go listen to it's like because you can think about like when you listen to Drew he said it was the worst thing that happened to black people they like said that he said
Starting point is 03:54:04 Joe music is the worst thing to happen to black music oh right I hear it black people sorry like alright I can see that bro being on that act nah I don't believe that
Starting point is 03:54:15 Well, we can't just blame the music. It's the other things outside of it. I mean, shit. Like, hey, hold on. I wasn't in this. Hello? Who that, Ray? No.
Starting point is 03:54:32 Like, for example, gangster rap, people like gangster rap, but gangster rap could also turn into other stuff. I think people, like, we don't like the outsider rap ramifications that drill music seem to be associated with. But I don't think it's an inherent problem with the music itself, right? Like, because we kind of do like music about violence. Like, that's kind of the truth.
Starting point is 03:55:01 But not every song about violence actually leads to more violence. So I know they're blaming the genre of drill, but I'm not just going to blame the actual songs. I'm not going to say that is just the worst shit that's ever happened to us No, that's cat back of them Niggas is definitely spinning
Starting point is 03:55:23 the blocks of some drill music right now Yeah, of course But I'm not saying that's nice I'm not saying that's I know that for sure So repeating to somebody talk about
Starting point is 03:55:36 Killing out of shing us And niggas were doing drive-bos To West Coast gangster music And low riders In the 90s So it's like, like, here's my thing. We obviously don't like the side effects. I think what we should, the better conversation to have is,
Starting point is 03:55:55 do we actually, because nobody's not going to say they don't like violent music, right? Because there's much more other music that we all listen to that might not be drill music, but it's still about violence. How real do you want the music to be? That's where we got to get like, we kind of drill music and the fascination around drill music is what hip hop started out to be where people would say that what they hear is what's going on in reality
Starting point is 03:56:25 like when you hear meek saying he's going to spin the block in philly at 4 a.m. You know he's not doing a motherfucking thing. If you hear YBC, don't say it though. The block is getting heated up. He's going to overcook a nigga, you know what I mean? So like it's just different. You know what I mean? Like if I hear If I hear 21
Starting point is 03:56:46 7 says spin the block like there ain't a way to park, we're going to be like, all right, nigga. All right, nigga, get us some tea and crumpus while you're at it. You ain't fit to do shit. Like, you know what I mean? Not that he's not like that or whatever. It's just that his music doesn't
Starting point is 03:57:00 encourage that violence, but it sounds good. It doesn't encourage it. It's also not it's not an indicator that that's actually happened. Now, is it like You know, like, 50 were rapping about shit from their past life. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:57:17 When he's singing many men in heat, these are moments in his life he's put to a record. And we kind of like those records. It's violent, but we like it. Drew music. Between gangster rap and Drew music. Yeah, it's a big difference, bro. Listen, fuck or like. Listen, bro.
Starting point is 03:57:35 Let's speak, yo, 26A y'all is dropping some fucking heat right now, bro. Like, do y'all not understand what's going to? knowing he just changed the whole dynamic. Bro, I'm trying to tell y'all, bro, 4-1 and 26-A y'all, the drinks niggas is going back and forth right now. They just up the whole, the whole N-Y drill is lit right now because it's lit off of beef, right?
Starting point is 03:57:57 I don't give a fuck. Nigger, did you hear that music? You got to listen to the music. You got to be the things you want to see in the world. You say you don't give a fuck, but you came in here with your man's. But my question was, is there a difference between gangston music and dream music?
Starting point is 03:58:10 And if so, what's the music? What you mean with your man's, though? No, no, I agree with that. You talk about you care about violence and you don't care about violence. There is a very big difference between, I guess, gangster music and Drew Music. Drew Music seemed to just strictly reflect what just happened in the street. Right?
Starting point is 03:58:32 Like, you ever hear art imitating life? That's what most of music is, right? So basically, if there's a shootout in Compton, niggas might rap about it in a gangster rap song. In a drill song, it's life imitating art. You're going to get somebody who says, yo, and if I ever see this nigga, I'm up the beam on him.
Starting point is 03:58:57 And nigga, now you see him, you have to up the beam on him. It's like you got to. So the music then becomes what's leading the. So I guess I'm almost like kind of turning, I'm going against the point. I was trying to say, because I was trying to say it's not that bad of a thing even. I'm not saying it's positive.
Starting point is 03:59:16 My thing is- Don't forget, though, what drill separate from gangster music is that drill is known to be after you do the crime, you go rap about it. It's not a hell about, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:59:27 That's the real difference. Nah, nah, hell nah. Yeah, yo, yo, nigga, I'll be listening to these niggas in the Bronx, all they all they tell me, all they're talking about, when I see this thing, I'm up and on it, like, nigga in there, tell you what you're going to do it.
Starting point is 03:59:38 Yeah, that's all is about you. Yo, I can't wait to put them in a pack like, yo, come on, bro. Like, yo, they're telling us. That's true. That's another reason. There's nothing else to me. Some people are having averse feeling towards drill, because a lot of times we feel like a lot of these niggas be fake capping trying to sound like a motherfucker that they heard.
Starting point is 03:59:57 Yo, act. Take me later. Final fade. Two six, A, y'all, final fade. These niggas is singing and singing and drill. They incorporated singing in New York drill. Who's the realist out of all these people? Is it 2 6 AR or my nigger, Kyle Rich, bro?
Starting point is 04:00:13 Nah, hold on. I don't know. 2 6 a. A. Y'all is one of them. Gucci. Gautzy Gapter niggins. A.R. is one of them nakes.
Starting point is 04:00:20 Lazy. Lazy-Glaug-Glaug is a man. I ain't going to lie. I feel like the Carolas Wicked is a music. You know, by the way. Whoever who made that point, I agree with that. Look. No, look.
Starting point is 04:00:30 Goochie clap the nigga and when it made the truth. Is the truth a gangster rap song or a drill song? No, no, that's a gangster rap song. Here's a drill song would be like, like, a drill song. A drill song would be, remember Gucci was beef with Gizi. If Gucci was like, I can't wait to see Gizi, I'm about to snatch his chain and shoot him in the face. Like, that's like drill. And then, and then actively trying to find him to snatch his chain and shoot.
Starting point is 04:00:54 Yes, that's drill at that point. That's the thing. That's the thing about drill song. With drill song is really about you really going on a drill, you feel me? Yeah. What part of New York? But then with a gangster, but with a gangster song. It's more of like he's in a bunch right now
Starting point is 04:01:09 I'm in a birthday right now Hey yo but with the gangsta song It's more of like a it's like a catchy tune But it's like some gangster street shit Drill is really talking about Real drilling Like you're really on the drill for real When Chef G was talking about
Starting point is 04:01:29 When Chef G was really talking about On the block and you really pulling up On the ops like he's really doing that He's really on the drill Really doing that credibility that's a difference gangsting
Starting point is 04:01:41 credibility to back it up when you got people like Rick Ross you can cap all day but still make gangster music type shit I got a
Starting point is 04:01:50 I think a big bitch Larry who yeah I ain't a lot Change the topic though Let's talk about that Cache Alvin
Starting point is 04:01:58 I feel like I know I'm about how much you make cash Hey yo how much you think Trap Dickie
Starting point is 04:02:05 Make a better music in that nigga 26 or whatever. You say how much I think, yo, you know, I think I'm about
Starting point is 04:02:11 to interview Cash Cobain. He deserved it. You deserve it. You know, he's been working. Here's my question to Cash he's been working
Starting point is 04:02:18 for the past six or seven years. Like, and I heard about him, you know, with his just like a sound, I think Cash really got a time.
Starting point is 04:02:28 I think he got a way that's going to be like the new thing. I don't think everybody. Yo. That's what I'm going to know. We'll win us.
Starting point is 04:02:37 I told Joe button, I told Joe button. I'm like, yo, Joe, I don't like how you get, I don't like how you want Drake right now. But then Drake with the whole, he stole like, not that he stole the flow, but he worked with Cash Cobain on calling for you on that record. Yeah, yeah. And that was a wave that Cash Cobain, like he worked, he worked all the way up to when he got to a point where he's working with Drake. And now Drake is on the same wave in it. Let me ask a question about Cash Cobain. And this is a genuine question really coming from
Starting point is 04:03:09 Like Sincerity in trying to figure out what it is Type shit Do you think that Cash Cobain's like in New York He got New York like he's got the shit locked But do you think his wave Has carried on nationally or is it regional? It's regional regional regional
Starting point is 04:03:32 Regional regional are we talking about Drake, Drake made that shit national, though. Without calling for you, he made that shit national. What you talking about? Niggas is definitely overseas bumping that Drake calling for you shit right down, and they got that shit on their car right now overseas. But they don't even know.
Starting point is 04:03:53 They don't even know. That's a whole Cobain record right there, though. You understand? I don't know. People realize Cobain is influencing other artists, so I think it's spreading. Like, they have Vonte, a kid, child. So you're starting to get your selections of who you might like out of it. Hold on, no.
Starting point is 04:04:09 I don't like that, though, because I'm from Long Island and so is Chal Lee, and I ain't going to lot of you. Before niggers even, like I said, I'm not taking out and away from nobody, but that sexy drill shit, that was created in Long Island. I ain't going to a lot of you. Right. Yeah, another person, but cash might be. It mesh together and made a hot. I think Vox is better than a lot of them. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 04:04:29 Yeah, yeah. He's definitely the head to head. If you're talking about real, you're not. I do think it is regional. I think he's trying to break out a region. He's close to bring out a regional because you got to look at the people he's featuring what he's doing features with a boogie. A, well, no, that's outside of the region. So like when he does features with, what's my main name? Sauce Walker, maybe, like a sauce walker. Again, let me finish. Don Oliver is one of the people he's collaborating with multiple times.
Starting point is 04:05:00 He has a couple Atlanta features, Quavo. The problem song, he got, you know, a couple of niggas that fuck with him. Also, niggas for get cash, been making beats for niggas for a long time. The cash, this beats from cash, not from YouTube tag, has been around for a good minute. I do think the music, from a music
Starting point is 04:05:17 producer standpoint, one of the reason why his music is connecting because he samples, like, songs that are very, you know, and that have been cultural staples, so it's, like, easier to develop to. And also, he's talking about sex in every song. Who don't like talking about sex in their music?
Starting point is 04:05:32 That's what we put in the background while we're getting some coo-nanny, you know what I'm saying? Sex selves. You know what I'm saying? So, and I think, also shout out to my man Damien at 20. They did the video for them.
Starting point is 04:05:44 You know what I'm saying? Shout to my people. You know what I'm saying? My team. Hey, yo, how much you think Cobain doing for the first? I don't even want to give a prediction because it's going to sound like hate.
Starting point is 04:06:01 Hey, hey, Drake, Drake, no, but I said, he just did a show in Arizona and it looked pretty
Starting point is 04:06:07 lit from what I saw yesterday, so he, that's pretty West Coast, you know. Without giving a
Starting point is 04:06:15 number, let me just put some parameters on it. Ice Spice did 20K. Okay, you want to say over under?
Starting point is 04:06:25 They're definitely under people. Yeah, Ice spice did, if Ice spice did 20, I don't see him doing. No more than 15.
Starting point is 04:06:37 Without a doubt. What? But see, I don't think he's really too concerned about that neither. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And obviously, ice spice is way bigger than him. So if you're doing it by that. Hey, I'm also going to say this, too. You got to remember, he's R&B.
Starting point is 04:06:54 So if it's an R&B album, it's going to last more over time. So R&B album, first week sales, really don't matter. He's not a lot of it. He wrapped. What you're thinking, Kyrie? Like, what you thinking? Like, you're not going to go on. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 04:07:08 Hold on, Coco. Hold on, Coco. Hold on, Coco. Like, yo, brother. Like, no, he's doing more. He got that for sure.
Starting point is 04:07:15 Yeah, for my spice game. He got that for sure in the album. Oh, yeah, he's doing more. He got a lot for sure. He got a crazy way. He got a problem in the album. And by the way, Billy Movado, thank you for the tent.
Starting point is 04:07:25 He says, uh, yeah, nah, I get why we like violent music. And it's a fact. It's street music. But to be honest, it's negative. Which leads to negative minds. set which leads to negative actions. Street poem is
Starting point is 04:07:39 real which is now interpreted differently. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't know what you're... I don't understand either. But also, let's also keep it a fact, a lot of those drip rappers can't rap that good.
Starting point is 04:07:49 And niggins be... Niggins be overhyper. Nah, well, let's go. Carrey, let me say something, Carrey. I don't fuck with drill.
Starting point is 04:07:57 Like, I always, y'all know you know me, bro. I always say I don't fuck with drill. But what I'm trying to tell you right now is that this wave right now, like this new way it's a new wave that's going on right now it's something nigga I don't know if these nextie drill I don't know
Starting point is 04:08:12 I don't know the last three years with drill music every three months you keep talking about a new wave that keeps into that shit do not turn it to a goddamn listen all right so when you listen to final fade 2 6 a y'all final fade nigger you're going to be like okay I see what he's talking about glazing they definitely don't go out let's let me get into that shit out that time you down. Man, nigga, that shit is hard. Many times as you said it, I'm definitely going to go listen to it now.
Starting point is 04:08:42 Yo, bro, listen, bro, I never seen New York drill, Nick 26. A. R switching it up. I never seen niggas actually singing about distant bad ops, nigga. Like, actually singing, nigga. Ain't that what they called cash code bang wave, though? No, no, no. Wait, but what about R2R, though? What about R2R Mo?
Starting point is 04:09:01 R2R. R2 R2. R2. I ain't a lie. You're right. R2 RMO is technically on that way Brody next up Brody next up for real
Starting point is 04:09:10 Like singing in the street Like ain't he? But they have They had some good Jones too But I just feel like Two six and y'all's kicking the ass right now I ain't gonna lock you six a y'all Hey ag I've been watching like
Starting point is 04:09:22 Twitter and shit And And Um Seeing their response to Kanye Do you think he's on like some type of Like downward spiral Like do you think his music is getting worse?
Starting point is 04:09:33 No No No, I kind of, I don't think he's putting so much energy into it anymore. By the way, thank for whoever who said a donation. NoCAP did 24,000 first week. Yeah, everybody's doing it in the 20s. Like, there's not much. I think right now if any artist does like a 60 ball, like it's going to be like your star.
Starting point is 04:09:52 Now, in terms of Kanye, though, yo, Kanye used to take so much time and bring so many people around. See, he's not even a writing because he always had 15 different writers. but like the instrumentation, the beats, like that obsession with perfection for, you know, or next level of music, that's what we were used to him doing. I think because his passion lies elsewhere, he's been doing music too long.
Starting point is 04:10:19 The nigger want to get back at Adidas. He want to do this, you want to do that? You know what I mean? Hey, keep it a bean. Kanye's never falling off, right? No, no, it's not necessarily follow. It's just like he's not giving us the best music he's ever given us.
Starting point is 04:10:31 why you think that is I don't think that's his full focus I think he's always going to give us a good project but I don't think he's giving us classics anymore like first five Kanye albums some people might even say six are all classics
Starting point is 04:10:51 college dropout late registration graduation what do we get after that do we get do we get eight awaits eight awaits then we get Mike beautiful dark twist of fantasy so that's five
Starting point is 04:11:03 projects already right and then after that is that when we get life of Pablo or no no we get something like Jay Z and him collab oh yeah yeah Washington exactly I ain't go la
Starting point is 04:11:16 I ain't Gula hey Kanye we need a Kanye and Jay Z collab that is but you got like let that finish let that relationship ever going downhill bro since watch the throng is
Starting point is 04:11:31 been going downhill and that's facts since since washington it's been going down here. Hey don't you think it's interesting that Kanye hopped on the like that remix going at Drake but then at his performance he just shouted out Drake and he ain't coming. Do you like that remix ever get officially released or no?
Starting point is 04:11:47 Nah they didn't release it. Yo I think it's clear that Kanye's is a nigga who yo he wasn't one of the registered ops man he just started throwing up the same sign as them niggas brad like come. Hey that's facts act you can say I will bro Kine was just hopping on the bandwagon.
Starting point is 04:12:03 And another reason why you know he really wasn't with the squad. He was hopping on the bandwagon. Because everybody knew Kainei was liable to shout out Drake 20 months later or like 20 days later. Kaya is literally bipolar. So he'll be on some fuck Drake shit. And then next week he'll hear a song and be like, man, Drake's the greatest man.
Starting point is 04:12:23 Drake's the guy. Shout to Drake. So, yeah, I think he was never really locked in with like Metro and future and Kendrick and even though I don't think Kendrick wants to be considered part of that. I think Kendrick just whatever. Didn't they have
Starting point is 04:12:40 a beef before? That's what was like the whole thing about mop ties and that whole thing so you can kind of like I don't know if they ever got over that. Well, so Jay Prince had forced him to talk, right? Force him to talk. They took a picture. They performed at the Larry Hoover concert. But then
Starting point is 04:12:56 Drake dissed them afterwards because Drake was like, yo, I only made up with my op because of like you know Jay Prince or something like that like he pretty much dissed him afterwards like basically saying the shit wasn't real and then Kanye felt away about it and Kanye said some shit and
Starting point is 04:13:12 yeah hey what's your thoughts song like this everybody's on that galaxy gas shit like everybody's doing like the whip it like it's like an actual going crazy like everybody's on social media doing it I mean I don't do it so you know
Starting point is 04:13:29 You don't know nothing about no drugs, man. No, but it's like, you're seeing how, like, it's becoming part of the culture. Like, I don't know how have you noticed that. No, no, I have noticed. People who's been doing that, though. Like, that's nothing. And, you know, but the way, it's not, you know, it's like, because niggas be on drugs.
Starting point is 04:13:44 I don't mean this culture. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I got to make this a nigga act. And, by the way. Yeah. I'm going to ask the question.
Starting point is 04:13:53 The way how I think about it is, it just depends on whatever the long-term effects is. Like, again, people were popping all. pills until like we start losing a few rappers and they said oh there's fentanyl in the pills we haven't heard a rapper die over overdose in a minute but if people are abusing it we're gonna see
Starting point is 04:14:09 it's just inevitable anytime something like that of overdose who just died intent is out of overdose oh yeah yeah yeah but like we haven't seen like all that much and I don't want to diminish that but knock on wood knock on wood
Starting point is 04:14:24 until a few niggas died from this shit that's when the awareness that's when the we're in this factor is going to pop. What about the other 1017 artists? The, did he die from over those also? I think all those was opiates. It was opiates.
Starting point is 04:14:40 Yeah, we talked about that galaxy gas, bro. Every time I see some young niggas with a galaxy gas. What the fuck is galaxy gas? Oh, it's nitrous. Yeah, that's all the young niggas on. It's nitrous. I got that Kanye shit for a second.
Starting point is 04:14:56 Hey, I go to the smoke shop version. Oh, it's a smoke shop version of what Kanye is. Okay. Well, I mean, if we're hearing that, if you do it too much, it could almost like mess up your, like, spinal cord or your nerves or whatever. Over time. Yeah. Until we start seeing some ramifications, I don't expect that trend to stop
Starting point is 04:15:16 because it looks like a lot of people are indulgent. You need a few motherfuckers to die to scare people off, man. That's what happens. Yo, Ag, worry about to drop his own, about to drop an album. You heard you're going on, you're going to support it. Shit, don't I want to hear it? Shit, you know what I mean? Based on the work you're done?
Starting point is 04:15:33 You said the other day that Yadi got the best pin in the game. That's what you did. No, no, hold on now. I said, for this year, for this year, I'm giving him for, like, let's go back 12 months from now. I think Yadi has contributed to so many artists, include one we like, a lot we don't know. Some I know, you know, you know, just because of whatever. he's right and he's clear he's writing for all all of the people in concrete he's writing for himself i feel like a guy who came in the game and everybody said he's supposed to be the whack rapper
Starting point is 04:16:09 for him to be writing for so many people i got i got to give him his groups okay i do who you feel top five then right and he records top five writers um this year this year see see that's the thing most writers aren't visible artists. You know, there's some writers who are just producers, right? Like, they'll produce and kind of have some, they'll write some shit to have somebody
Starting point is 04:16:39 demo it on their bead, but. Headmaker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, I just know Yaddy's doing a shit ton of writing, bro. Like, a shit on the writing. Yeah, the dream was a writer and an artist. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 04:16:57 Yeah, yeah. I would have said, I would have said, future probably one of them. I think, I think, Rick Ross would write a lot of songs. You know, put it like this. The thing is, a lot of times with these writers,
Starting point is 04:17:11 we don't really get to trace down what they wrote. Because unless it's with a certain group of artists, nobody's checking the credits. Like, nobody's going to go to a, you know, let's say a key Glock album. You know, to go to a Kiglock album and be like, yo, let's see, like,
Starting point is 04:17:29 who's credit on every song? Right? Not saying Kiglok uses helper, none of them, but we're only going to look at, say, a Drake album. You might look at a Kanye album. I think the, the idea for an artist
Starting point is 04:17:45 like that is that, you know, he's so gangster that he write all his shit. You know what I'm saying? Who? The shit he's talking about, like, a nigger like Kegla. You know what I'm saying? I think, like, for most people, they think, like when you listen to his music, it sounds so
Starting point is 04:17:59 authentic and like that he live in that life that you would never think that he has a a writer and it's kind of mediocre. Hold on a little. But you also got to remember, like, the majority of, and we won't even call these people ghost writers because they never used to like to be referred to as ghost writers.
Starting point is 04:18:17 The motherfuckers who give you a hook. Like, Kiglock might be a nigga who could rap about his life on the verses, but he probably can't, like, like, like, think about the game do we consider this is ghost writing the game could make a hook to save his life 50 cent came and basically gave him a bunch of hooks i mean the game of artists though like he's a real raping yeah i think i think ghost riding has morphed into like we no longer care about the hooks like but if you got a whole verse my nigger that a verse nigga and a niggas rattle that's ghost right
Starting point is 04:18:50 and it's nasty work these days and you know i feel sorry for yaddy because yaddy just like to be honest friend we're gonna keep it a thousand and you know shout to yaddy you know he got a horrible voice they got a voice of a muppet nigga and that's why he got a right for niggas to get his shit off because his voice ain't easy on every beat man it's not
Starting point is 04:19:09 I wouldn't say it so harshly but I do agree with you I do think that I think he know that respectfully I don't think that he is he is a lot of think about it's like other artists like Like, even thug, like, they got weird kind of voices, but they, they fit the mode.
Starting point is 04:19:30 Nah, Yadi's voice a one-on-one, bro. I ain't go along. Hey, yo. You know, the other. You know, my name, you're in a major, man. You're in a major, man. Hey, that's crazy. Am I shit finally now?
Starting point is 04:19:42 Yeah, you good. Yeah, this reminded me the other night when Act was on stream and the act was talking about how, you know, Yadi, like, the longevity. And I agree with that 100%. I didn't even know, like, Yadi was going to. turn into this right here. You feel me? He surprised me. He surprised a lot of people. I always have a lot of all the rappers. Yadi always showed that he gave him.
Starting point is 04:20:02 Yeah. But you know what it was, Carl? I feel like, I feel like for Yadi it was him being around QC, being around the right people, but then also his work ethic. He actually got better over time. Like Yadi really one of them guys that stayed in a stove for real. Yaddi really love making music.
Starting point is 04:20:19 A lot of niggins. Yeah. That's why you can only love me. You can tell a nigga love making music when you can remove yourself and start writing for women. Exactly. Exactly. It's like what Jay Coe says, miracle exercise.
Starting point is 04:20:33 You get better the more. Exactly. Yo, when Yadi called me, when Yadi called me two days ago, Yadi, Yadi was in between his rehearsal for his band. Like,
Starting point is 04:20:48 he's, he's in a band. Like, this is what, like, yo, no matter what you want to say about, you know what it is,
Starting point is 04:20:55 though, This is why shame works. You know what this all came from? I think everybody calling that nigga whack. You remember everybody called him whack? I remember when me. That nigga got a band? Yeah.
Starting point is 04:21:08 I remember when me and him, you know, start having like, you know, some type of, you know, conversation relationship. He had, he called me one day and say, oh, yo, fuck all these motherfuckers who say I can't, like, I wrote some shit. I'm going to, I'm going to funk fledge to rap. And I'm like, Yadi, do not go to funk flanks. to freestyle, do not do this. He said, no, I wrote some shit. And he says, let me rap it for you. The nigga wrapped it for me on the phone.
Starting point is 04:21:32 And the whole time I'm thinking, I'm like, you know Uzi's not going to do this, right? You know 21 Savage is not doing this, right? You know everybody on that cover ain't doing it. But for him, it was like a challenge. He was just like, yo, they're playing with me. Bro, I got to go do this. And by the way, I think that turned out good for him,
Starting point is 04:21:49 but I think he's been working on his pen. I think if you look at some of those summer songs projects, You could tell that he was improving his artistry this whole time. I think that if his voice isn't like how it is, number one, it's a double that sword because we don't get polling. Like, he needs to have that weird ass voice to get a song like polling and strike.
Starting point is 04:22:07 But I think the reason why sometimes we shocked that Yadi's right in footniggis is because you're like, yo, we can't picture Yadi's saying it because Yadi's voice be like. Exactly. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's the fact. That exactly what it is, right?
Starting point is 04:22:22 Yeah. Like, I'm going to be honest with you. Like, Jumbotron shit popping, Drake delivery, so clean. If, if, if, if, butter, you, we heard the reference. Yadi doing it. Yeah, it's cool, but it's kind of like, you know, it's Yadi, you know. And that's not. Why?
Starting point is 04:22:41 You, I still be trying to, I still be trying to picture Yadi singing act up. Oh, nah, you wow. You're picturing him singing that game? I'll be, because I'm like, yo, he's really broke that shit. Like, how do you? I know, right? That nigga was in a freaky-ass bag when he wrote that. I really think all the Jews that's writing for females in 2024.
Starting point is 04:23:03 Well, that nigga, Yaddy said he popped a rhino and a honey pack to lock himself in a studio and wrote act up, man. Holy. Oh, God. You work. Yo, I'm going to be honest with you, though. That, we got to give a lot of credit, though. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 04:23:19 To people who can write for, for, like, you know, from a female perspective. like that's pretty good you know you know I know the guy who works with Glorilla and he he's doing really well and he writes for a lot of females and Wait Gloria got writer I mean he's publicized with her like he's public she posts him
Starting point is 04:23:41 a guy named Poplar Yo yo listen rap is like over man everybody just get a fucking writer Keep it keep a good god I'm about to get me a writer God damn she actually posts a dude so I don't feel like It's a mystery but his name ain't pop lord but he he talented he helped with uh that 7 p.m. Friday and then joint with her and meg that post her upm. friday songs on. Hey yo you know how easy this to be an artist these days chat like think about and again I'm not picking on her but I'm just to use her uh say young
Starting point is 04:24:10 Miami right you go to the club you in the club with your your girls you know y'all screaming out period every 20 seconds you got twerking y'all get drunk you wake up about like three every o'clock. I head to the studio at 5. And you got to think, I don't know if anybody's ever, like, recorded music or had to be creative. After a heavy night of party,
Starting point is 04:24:35 and sometimes it really, you got to unwind to get in a creative bag. Bro, these artists go to the studio, tell the engineer to check their email, and the engineer pulls up an email of 25 reference track. And all they got to do is pick them, pick which one to record.
Starting point is 04:24:53 There's no thinking process. There's no, like, you know, I remember like certain artists would be in the studio with like a pen to pad. They did thinking of like, damn, what rhymes? That's not the experience nowadays. People show up to the studio. The reference tracks are in the emails. You listen to what you want. All right, yo, you load up this.
Starting point is 04:25:13 I'm going to do this next. I'm going to do this. And then I got to get out of here because I got to get to the club. You get what I'm saying? It's like, that's it. Like, there's not much. Is it what? We think the passion lacking from them actually sitting down and writing their music is the reason why we don't get like number one hip-hop records like we did 2016, 27, 2018.
Starting point is 04:25:33 Yeah, I think there's a lack of collaboration. Like, okay, these artists nowadays is not like they're with the ghostwriter and they're and they're like bouncing bars back and forth. They're opening their email or their voice note just like how you see with Yadi. And they're going to have a verse with somebody else. us doing it and all they got to do is sometimes they're going to have the lyrics typed out or they're going to type it out themselves
Starting point is 04:26:01 and they're going to load up the reference track as well and basically try to copy the reference track and wrap it straight to it that's if they don't have a slow they punch it in yeah yeah but those niggas don't tend to last too long
Starting point is 04:26:16 I mean yak punching you know the same thing as punching in it's not the same thing as having a reference track it Yo, yo, you're saying those artists don't last long, but, like, we're finding out that it's not just like a 1% of people using, like, reference tracks these days. Or just not writing.
Starting point is 04:26:38 The majority of these artists, like, for example, you know who should share a little bit of blame APG? APG, a subsidiary of Atlantic, when they use to sign- companies that signs niggis for writing and they just be put, that's the real sweatshop. When they used to sign like social media influence, like say they signed Jake Paul when he was just a YouTuber, they would be like, hey, the quickest way to capitalize off this cloud is dropping a song.
Starting point is 04:27:03 They would be like, well, I never recorded a song. I never wrapped. Okay, listen, we have a book of hits that our sweatshop has given us. Listen to these songs and pick one and go record it. You should do a music video for it and we're going to drop it.
Starting point is 04:27:19 Like, that's unbelievable. You know what I mean? so that has changed the game you really would see an artist now in the studio actually cooking up so like what do you think
Starting point is 04:27:32 do you think that's another option for artists to pop is to become a songwriter um well not to pop is to get money how would you pop off of doing that
Starting point is 04:27:49 without like belittling somebody else you know what I'm saying? Well, the reason why I say that is because, right, we had Tory that did that, right? Remember, Tori started off as a writer, right? He was able to pop. He's making his own music, too, though. Exactly.
Starting point is 04:28:06 The term you're saying pop off, you have to make your own music at the end of the day still. Yeah. Otherwise, you're just a songwriter who's making good money. That's true, yeah. And there's a few songwriters. Actually, it's more female songwriters cooking up for these niggas than you would.
Starting point is 04:28:21 you'd be surprised. I think what home is meant to say is this. It's kind of like Vori, right? Like, Vori is an artist, but a lot of his ascension and respect in the game came from him working and writing for Kanye,
Starting point is 04:28:38 doing a record for Drake. Like, you know, that made people look at his talent a little bit different because he was always good, but he wasn't getting the recognition that he probably deserved. And honestly, some niggas don't have the integrity to be a writer.
Starting point is 04:29:01 And some people, like, if you could make good songs, people, but like, for instance, some people get disgruntled when they start writing for people because they start feeling like, yo, bro, that's, that's me. Y'all, faking with that. Y'all are fucking with the niggas singing. Hey, let me tell you this. This music game, bruh, listen, I knew something was off when I was just like, yo. These, I don't see the, these current crop of artists ever really brag about spending time in a studio.
Starting point is 04:29:33 Hmm. How much creative shit are they really doing? How is this, you know, only doing celebrity shit. He's on tour all day. He's fucking 15 bitches a week. He's doing a bit. Like, when does he actually get to? You want to why?
Starting point is 04:29:48 You want to why? Because we stop holding accountable for the artist. It's like, I don't know where. Yeah. We'd be overhyping, like shit. We stopped leaving, we stopped leaving accountability up for these artists. So now these artists, they, they're going to, they're going to put in the whole work. Like, egregiously, I ain't going to lie to you, gang.
Starting point is 04:30:12 With that pink tape, when you went to go listen to the pink tape, yeah, that shit was garbage. And niggas just let it rock. You thought the pink tape was trash? I blame that Gucci gang. Act, act, act. You sit here and tell me that shit was hard. I thought it was cool The pink tape to lookie
Starting point is 04:30:29 But you just asked us if Out of three artists Including Ouzi Who would have the best album We all said Oozie That has nothing to do with the pink tape Pink tape is crazy Pink tape ain't one of my favorites
Starting point is 04:30:43 So I understand Yeah I ain't gonna say it's one of my favorites But I ain't gonna say it was That's way better than pink tape But pink tape is like John John
Starting point is 04:30:53 John name of songs off of there those I have the name's what's that fucking song with that nigga Charles the white on it bro? Wait, oh fuck yo god damn Karee,
Starting point is 04:31:05 I hate you guys I'm just saying right You got me Like we'd be letting Like we be letting niggas slide With whack shit And we They're finessing us
Starting point is 04:31:13 Into believing That the music is good And we just keep believing We gotta stop doing that Damn I said I've had about Cardi But hey Niggas be more hyped
Starting point is 04:31:23 About the nigga dance moves And new out fit before they're really hyped about the music that should just be carrying over for the music let's be real yeah that's not that's not that's not all about cardi but people don't see them see that two sides of the same coin you guys don't style like jjag you said something about there's credits i feel like if there's like credits like a little second style one mic one mic one mic why happened that little second sound cloud wave is supposed to begin I don't think of such thing as a second
Starting point is 04:31:59 SoundCloud wave. There was one wave when I was I think I know what he mean by that. I think I know what he mean. I think you're talking about like the TikTok rappers type shit like the new wave of TikTok rappers and shit like that like the laser dims and shit like that. It was like a no way to get the music. Destroy it long. Oh no. That's not. I think I think you're
Starting point is 04:32:21 you're conflating SoundCloud with like a new sound of music. That's not necessarily. necessarily indicative of soundcloth. When you mentioned a TikTok thing, I think of, like, people making songs just for that quick 20 seconds of, you know, catchiness. It's not no longer full, complete music. It's just like, oh, it's just like the dude from UK right now that slung my shoulder
Starting point is 04:32:47 song. Like, that's all people know from that song. I bet people don't know nothing else from that song, but I don't even know who that is. It's a catchy part, but either way, It's like people are just making the music for that, that viral clip on TikTok now. There's no, you know,
Starting point is 04:33:03 real creativeness, no longevity into the music. So, I just don't want to really demonize it too, too much just because like publicity, especially in this day and age where like we're really swamped with a lot of things. I just think, you know,
Starting point is 04:33:14 it's just a way to monetize like snippets in a way. Just don't rely on it and just don't rely on gimmicks. Just put the hard work in, right? I think that's what a lot of these new artists are doing, though. Like, niggas always feel like they got to have a gimmick with them.
Starting point is 04:33:27 like some some some shit with them I don't even know how describe his style the hardest niggins that came out in the last few years don't got a gimmick fucking boss man dealer
Starting point is 04:33:39 don't got a gimmick you know who I want to shout out to my name my nigga Boston Richie man it was trying to get him out of the game with a snitch and shit man
Starting point is 04:33:49 he came back with a joint the bitches love him the niggies back on man stop playing that yo that's that song help me I left the allegations alone after I heard that. If he never got that bad
Starting point is 04:34:01 stain on his name at that moment, he possibly would be like one of the top. God, that niggas hard. He's hard. He's hard. Does anybody know where the Boston came from? Yeah, that nigga from Florida,
Starting point is 04:34:16 should it be Florida Ritchie? Nah, it's a nigga named Boston Ritchie. That's like famous in Florida. Street niggins, man. What not? Is that a half a year from that help me at the club
Starting point is 04:34:28 we're here? Is that another boss of Richie? Have you ever heard help me at the club before? You ever see how everybody reacts to that song? When you hear help me at the club? Yo, help me.
Starting point is 04:34:42 That shit. That shit. Maybe can you help me. Yo, bro, that's on came on. That song came on random in my car. I was like, damn. He didn't even be honest.
Starting point is 04:34:55 I was like, he ain't a snitch. me. Oh, God. He never made a bad song if y'all really go back and listen to him, man. But he is snitched, though. So it's like, can we take him serious, though? Man, fuck on that, man. It's a lot of niggas out here snitching, man. Even though he had, you know, that clip came from when he was like 15, 16 years old or something, I think, right? Nah, gay.
Starting point is 04:35:16 Either way, it's no validation, but he's still really involved. You get what I'm saying? If niggins know his story, he's still active, you know what I'm saying? Well, he was prior, I mean, following that. whole incident so I'm just saying his music is tough we can't take them from him what do you think about
Starting point is 04:35:34 what do you think about Woody basically becoming a social media star just off snitching shit I mean and niggas was kind of flame gunner hey I mean yo I think yeah when it comes to snitching
Starting point is 04:35:51 you could there's a mad ways to beat it man like for example um shit, I did a whole stream. I had Boston Richie's brother on here. People were still called him a snitch. That nigga dropped one hot song. They said, fuck the stench allegations. Like, right? So you just need
Starting point is 04:36:06 a hot song. Or with Woody, yo, that niggas just hilarious. Like, all a sudden, people like watching his 20v-1s, now niggas don't give a fuck if he snitching. He's an entertainment snitch. Who cares? Yeah. Like, I'm probably wrong.
Starting point is 04:36:21 He a rap, but he rat at two. My bad. I think, like, I think like, I just like, This is going to low key. Like, I don't know. Like, the 6-9 situation, you try to fuck my baby mom on the side. You're the one taking 40 years. Or like, what do you?
Starting point is 04:36:32 Like, it sounded like he thought, like, they were going to set him up and he was going to be the only one taking the fall or something like that. If 6-9 didn't embrace, oh, I'm a rat and have a rat emojis in his thing and basically just didn't really speak too much on it and just kept making music. And, like, I think people would have forgave him. I think he just kind of jacked it too much. And also. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:36:54 Yeah. They were beefing. Oh, no, no, no. No, no. Everybody hated him. That's what I'm saying. Everybody hated that, nigga. Yeah, that's a fact, bro.
Starting point is 04:37:02 But I think... Niggas. Niggas hated. Where he even snitched? God damn it. Niggas, I mean, like, but it's different with Woody because this is like a street guy
Starting point is 04:37:13 who's... Most people probably don't even know that he is a snitch. They probably just him from his 20 v-1s and whatnot. I think he's a comedian, like this new comedian character or whatnot, but he's...
Starting point is 04:37:23 Understand. He shouldn't know when he get called. Well, I will say one thing. I think the real street dudes that do care about it is probably not on Instagram. And one, no, they can't do nothing to him because he's a fucking state's witness. So he's dealing with the internet world now that these people don't care. You know what I'm saying? And I will say the Danza project kind of humanized them.
Starting point is 04:37:47 You know, you can see him in a different light and see where his, you know, where his intentions. I do clearly think he's a rat straight up in. out, but I can see why people Man, the niggis need to just fallies come to terms of reality, man. Brough, we love rats now, bro. Yeah, we do. Honestly, we really do. But Woody, but Woody situation, since Woody's not a rapper,
Starting point is 04:38:11 since Woody's not a rapper, I think Woody fame is going to die down quickly, right? But I think at point was true, though, right? Like, if you were rapping and you snitch or whatnot, all you need is a fucking hit. You feel me? I mean, but how easy is it to make a hit, hold on, no, no. Well, here's the thing. You need a right type of hit.
Starting point is 04:38:31 So you need a fuck you mean, which is, it's not a song that's about, you can't have a song that says you're a tough rap. Just have a song that's for the ladies, yo. Yeah. Like, yeah, like, you get a song for the ladies. Also, like, what, with Gunner, I don't think it's necessarily one song that got us to fuck with him. It's the whole project.
Starting point is 04:38:52 Like the nigga had to wrap a whole project of fire for diggas to be like Yeah, Macca is the persona. It's the persona too. His persona changed. Like he's not, he's not Gunna from the streets no more. He's gonna in Europe. Gunna doesn't represent the street or street, nigga.
Starting point is 04:39:11 He prefers. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. He was round thug. I don't like this. Was it wasn't. Have you listened to old Gunna? No, you got to go back to the old gunna.
Starting point is 04:39:19 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Y'all think Gunna was not acting like a Street nigga, your gunner's a Crip. I was just about to say that, but I'm gonna say that I'm gonna incriminate already. I'm not a street nigga, whatever the case may be, but I'm just saying he presented more of a fashion nigga even when he was...
Starting point is 04:39:34 Now, no, now. You can't lead that street life, Kyrie. He can't... Hold on now. Y'all not gonna sit here and tell me y'all know Gunner for more street music than fashion rap. Yes, yes. He was signed under thug, huh? Yeah, I don't
Starting point is 04:39:48 I know him more for getting to the bitches and being a Rodi was in the street One mic One mic, one mic Dripped too hard Is about fashion, gang It's not about street shit
Starting point is 04:40:01 One song About fashion and shit One song He's old You know You listen to his old Other shit though Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 04:40:09 He didn't talk about street shit like What's street shit? He's still like I was a fashion shit Yeah That's what I'm trying to say But that's But that got to be his lane now
Starting point is 04:40:21 you feel me his lane is is that drip you want to hit gunner talking about drip you want to talk about on street you mean like a turn that shit you know what's one saw what's the street saw from gun that's that's more fired than a him rapping about fashion name one I don't think it's about that I think we was saying
Starting point is 04:40:39 like he's a slick street nigga like he's not the gangster kill you type street nigga he was the slick talk of him getting money he definitely always had gangster bars and his shit you whack and all that shit in his worst I think he said he said it I don't know nobody who said
Starting point is 04:40:58 I'm listening to that new gunner for some pre-shut. Nah, bro, you listen like, with the melodies and with the fire, like, shit with the I mean, I kind of agree, but like, if he, if he presented himself that, like, early in his career and that's kind of like what he blew up. Exactly. I think your first album really speaks, and I chase back, I listen to a lot of first albums, because that's who people wanted, you know, so if that's
Starting point is 04:41:18 him, we just have to accept it, but I understand Malin was saying, like, he's Europe now, he's drip now, It's like, yeah, like, you know, because I don't want to encourage people that are, like, still in the streets that are going to make it to really, like, embrace this kind of new style of writing. Because I want to be a good person, but if you can't make it out yet, I mean, hey, you know, just disrespectful, right? Rest and peace. You know, just be careful. Because, like, I have Russian friends. I'm like, yo, be careful what you say.
Starting point is 04:41:42 Like, I just understand your situation, but do what you got to do. I swear. My favorite gunner song is definitely a drippy song because Met Gala, that's, that's what a gunner best songs ever. May Gellie shit's final. Anyway, yo, I ain't going to lie. I think you got old. Anyway, yo, I ain't going to lie, man. I'm getting the fuck off a stream, bro.
Starting point is 04:42:02 I'm talking to shit, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Not, no, no. Well, if I'm going to try to do a streak, you know, 20 got a beat. You know, 20 got a beat. Yo, if I'm going to do a streak and try to come back on tomorrow, uh, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 04:42:16 Yeah, you know? The tone, that's the tone. And by the way, yo, yo, yo, yo, chat. Uh, yo, yo, this conversation is going to continue without me in, in the So like, oh, you already know, you already know. VC is voice chat in the Discord. So if you're typing in the chat right now, you're like, yo, act, yo, this thing is talking bullshit or you have something to add to the conversation.
Starting point is 04:42:36 Just join Discord, make a name. You know, once you verify yourself, you'd be able to have roles to at least speak in the general chats. And you could argue and give you your two cents. You get what I mean? I love hearing new voices. That is from the chat. So if you ever want to get on here and talk to me or debate, or just ask a question.
Starting point is 04:42:56 I would love to, you know, get that opportunity to, to, uh, rap with you on stream. But it all starts with Discord. You got to go sign up for Discord. I think, I think we're almost at like 30,000 people in Discord. So everybody, please, discord.g. slash academics, go tap in there. And, yeah, make an account.
Starting point is 04:43:12 And this conversation is going to continue there. I'm going to be back on tomorrow. I got to do like a midday stream. I've been trying to do a midday stream because these, these night streams, I haven't done six hours yet. as soon as I get to around like three o'clock because I wake up at 6 o'clock But you say you ran out of topics, right?
Starting point is 04:43:29 Like those kind of like one problem Yeah, but at least You help us up though. I appreciate the platform. Yeah, but at least tomorrow, I'll just plan to be like, yo, we're not topic heavy. I'll just create content.
Starting point is 04:43:39 Like, I'll just like, you know, I'll just treat it like comedy type of shit, you feel me? She's treated like a ghetto standup. You know what I mean? Get some bullshit going on. Anyway, yo, yo, listen, I'm glad to talk to all y'all y'all niggies
Starting point is 04:43:51 in Discord. I appreciate all y'all. If y'all niggas need anything from me, obviously the mob should know how to reach me. Like was. Lake was, like was. Keep going.
Starting point is 04:43:58 I love you actor. We love you. It was a pleasure. It was a pleasure. Yeah, yeah. If anybody, whether in the chat or in Discord,
Starting point is 04:44:05 I need me, I know how to get at me. But I'll be back on tomorrow. We got to keep the four-day street going on. I'm going on. If I could get, chat, if I get like a crazy long street going on,
Starting point is 04:44:15 you know, maybe I could get some type of reward or reward myself. You know what I'm saying? All right, though. Hey, Egg, you know, I got 20 on a beat. dude that made most of the beats for the baby like shug and all that he'd been wanting to have a conversation i'd be in a studio with him all the time like he wants to say some beats to yk
Starting point is 04:44:30 shit put him in yk have leave i'm gonna try to do it up he wanted to talk to you because he said you shout him out on everyday scrub but he'd been wanting to have a conversation with you oh okay all right bring him to court all right all right uh people i'll see y'all tomorrow uh thank y'all for for our tune in tonight i think we just kind of had a i got to start popping him back on discord a lot more because you know um sometimes it changed up the monotonous just maybe one side of the opinion from y'all just hearing me talk about topics we could get y'all uh tapped in as well all right

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