DJ Akademiks Live Streams - Lebron DUCKS Drake at Toronto 'Caribana'. Rah Ali vs Cardi B? is OTF Vonni Snitching on Durk?

Episode Date: August 3, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:20 Drake is one of the most intriguing artists out there, and that's mostly because he's full of contradiction. On one track, he's a smooth-talking ladies man who wants you to be valued and respected. The next, he's claiming a girl who allegedly rejected him is a 10 on mute, and claiming he's a lesbian in one of the worst bars of the past 10 years. On other occasions, Drake claims he's the man, before delving into the sorrow and loneliness he feels. But while these are all just artistic complexities, the one thing that everyone has truly struggle to reconcile is when Drake attempts to behave in a way that would suggest he has some real
Starting point is 00:00:52 gang ties or did dirt in the streets. While some people don't seem to mind it, there are plenty of people who like Drake for the melodies rather than when he acts tough. So why is it that Drake is never permitted to posture in the way that other rappers do on their tracks? And is there any way for this guy to ever be taken seriously in this light, no matter how many apparently active street dudes enter his orbit? The guys at our school, instead of addressing people, like the brute, like saying like, what are you guys doing? Say man's like you. It's a really weird.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So man's like you are going to that and then just being like the group. Crew. It's interesting. It's not. It's really weird. That's rude.
Starting point is 00:01:32 That's rude. It's rude. And this is why Drake is hip-hop's fake as gangster. But first, a little history lesson. For those who remember the origins of Drake's career, you'll know that tough talk wasn't much of a factor on projects like room for improvement or so far gone. In truth, the harder. edge to his lyrics recently commenced on tracks from his sophomore album where he claimed that
Starting point is 00:01:52 you're gonna make someone around me catch a body like that, leading to no end of confusion for those who had witnessed his rise as a rapper fusing R&B into his sound and broadly making music for pop audiences. And at first, it seemed like a potentially catastrophic decision. I mean, listen, I think Drake can rap. He's a dope rapper. But I just, I hate when he sings. And I just think, personally, he's a corny guy. He's just a corny dude. In that new headlines video, he looks extra It's like Drake, why are you thugging now? Why are you dressed all in black? Why you got on black gloves?
Starting point is 00:02:22 Why you got a whole bunch of dudes around you dressed in black? And then he's singing in headlines about catching bodies. You're gonna make me catch a body like that. You're gonna make somebody around me catch a body like that and you know, don't do it. Because when he go to jail, we all go through it and you know, Drake's you're gonna pay it. What do you mean? What are you gonna pay the bell?
Starting point is 00:02:37 You're gonna pay for the hit? Like, that's not you, Drake. Especially since Drake's crew at the time was mostly made up of guys like his producer 40, OVO Ryan, and Future The Prince, which are all creative. creative minds, not street guys. Nobody really that I've ever considered a true friend has switched up. But these like, you know, these fly by night people that you just come across, they're all not to be trusted.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And in a genre where authenticity is, or at least used to be of pivotal importance, trying to portray himself as something he wasn't was a very, very big gamble. But since then, we've had everything from Drake rocking ski masks as though he's immensely about to do a drill to lyrics like, I should probably be in there with thug and thug and them, as well as spitting lyrics like, the weapons we got is some terrorist shit, like TV producers we airing this shit. At every turn, people have struggled to buy it. And recently, his tough guy image has reared its head once more on the rollout of what
Starting point is 00:03:29 did I miss. Whether it's the 100 guns in the music video, or his verbal spat with a passerby during a stream where the Toronto Hoodman's cosplay came out in full effect. So what then? So what then, Big Dog? So what then, Big Dog? Come on! Come on!
Starting point is 00:03:46 Come on, chat. I'm just gambling a little bit. Then we're going to start the regular stream. Don't look away now. Don't look away now. Don't look away now. We'll fold that up right now. Fold that.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Blessing. And considering that he's now fully immersed in the accent that he once mocked in front of some upper class individuals, it's fair to say that, as always, most people are not buying it. The whole trying to sound tough thing from Drake just never works. The whole idea we about to fuck somebody up. Do we have it all? But that's what tough guys in Toronto sound. We'll fold that up right now.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It's fair to say that this response to his latest attempt at adopting a hardened exterior is generally how people perceive the threat or lack there of when it comes to Drake. But there are rare instances that people have suggested he's not the one to be trifled with. I'm scared of Drake. He's scared of Drake. Certain people got to be scared of Drake. He's not a fighter. He's powerful. He got to be dangerous in some shape or form fashion.
Starting point is 00:04:40 But when we're talking about him being a fearsome individual, it isn't this guy they're afraid of. Rooms brought me the hat that I need for this stream right here. This is my alter ego. I need the Max Wien. I need the Max Wien. And Wayne is my favorite person to work with though, because it's just, oh, oh, little Wayne's just too good. Oh, oh, little Wayne's just too good. Instead, it's his ever-expanding entourage that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Because these days, it's less geeky guys from the Toronto suburbs and more experts from the trenches. And at times, there has been reason to believe that they've acted like his personal militia. When it comes down to it, the reason why they're liable to crash out is that for a lot of these guys, Drizzi is their ultimate meal ticket. Some of Drake's people only eat because he feeds them. He's the reason they've got clothes, a car, and a roof over their head. And whether they admit it or not, they'd crash out for him in a heartbeat. By acting as their benefactor, Drake has instilled a will in these individuals around him that they'll remain loyal to him because when it comes down to it, he can change their life in an instant with one cash app transaction. Always by his side yet invisible
Starting point is 00:05:44 when he decides they need to be, the people that are essentially seen online as Drake and OVO's goons always have his back. But there are some people who feel that out of all of hip-hop, they are the least intimidating team imaginable. Drake got the worst shooters, man. All fucking dorks, LMAO. Although he hasn't always been around, one of the louder enforcers in Drake's circle these days is Canadian rapper Top 5. As a member of the Go Get Em gang or GigiG, top 5 was co-signed by Drake and even got a shout out on Grammys off view. with his track shirt off. But despite the recognition,
Starting point is 00:06:17 Top 5 stayed active in the streets alongside his brother. And after his brother was killed, he and the GGG crew vowed revenge. Top 5 even went on Instagram more than once, saying he personally pulled the trigger on whoever was responsible. Top 5 later talked about getting revenge
Starting point is 00:06:32 for his brother on social media. And not long after, he was arrested for the January 2021 murder of 20-year-old Hashim Omar Hashi. According to police, Hashi, who was just a second-year accounting student, was killed in a case of mistaken identity, believed to be the man who killed Top 5 his brother. And cops arrested Top 5 two weeks later for his suspected involvement in the crime.
Starting point is 00:06:52 He had a whole host of illicit substances on him, including heroin and fentanyl. Despite the prosecutor's reservations about releasing him because he was a flight risk, they were proved right, cutting off the ankle bracelet and fleeing to California before getting apprehended at a Burger King. Eventually, he was released after three years and cleared on all charges. How are you feeling? An innocent man just came home, right? Toronto rapper Top 5, whose real name is Hassan Ali, leaves court after spending three years in custody in connection with the killing of a 20-year-old man in January 2021.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I feel like a baseball player, superstar, you know what I mean? The case against Ali collapsed after the judge excluded evidence the crown called crucial. That included music videos and social media posts. His defense lawyer argues prosecutors attempted to use his music against him. What's your plan now? I'm going to bring every community together. Stop the violence. Positiveity.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Stop the violence. Positiveity. And as soon as he was let out of custody, he immediately thanked Drizzi for paying his lawyer fee, securing him the legal services of Toronto's biggest lawyer in Gary Grill. At first, Top 5 said he wanted to focus on peace. But the second that the Drake versus Kendrick Beef kicked off, that all flew out the window. He quickly took Drizzi's sight and even joked that the two of them would watch the not like us music video together and figure out who needed to be dealt with.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I'm going to sit down with you guys and we're going to play not like us and I'm going to spot every nigga in the video, including DeMar de Rosie. Yo, what's so? With DeMarr? What's up with him? He's bog.
Starting point is 00:08:22 They traded him. Wack. Wack. Wack. Nothing. Bogue, man. Nothing. From there, he acted as if he banned Lamar from Canada as a whole.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Let me tell you some. Country Lamar can come to Toronto. I'm here. Yo! Yo! Where others sat back, Top 5 took the flag and even acted like he'd kill hit a J3, citing his previously dismissed charge as the reason why he would escape any kind of legal drama stemming from it.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Oh, J3? J3. J3? I'm gonna give him a fade. But I'm gonna darn him. I'm gonna darn him. I'm gonna do the fade and when he comes. Boom.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And my word, I'm gonna darn the guy. Yeah? The guy's talking sick. I'll just be the body. I feel like I'm untouching. However, if Kendrick was supposed to be afraid of going to Canada, he clearly didn't get the memo. As shortly after, he announced shows in 3rd. Top 5 city. Still, Top 5 showed that he would single-handedly bring a halt to the June 12th show
Starting point is 00:09:13 of the G&X tour. And for a little while, he had some people fooled enough to be adamant on high alert. Do you think that Kendrick could come to Toronto and do a big show without any problem? I don't know, man. You know how connected Drake is in Toronto as far as with government officials and who else? Oh, top five and all these things, you got wild nits in Canada. There's two things I need that. You and Kendrick. Oh, no. Like I say it again, Canada's not sweet. think that Kendrick Lamar still happening in Toronto? Apparently he got two of them there. That's just gonna be canceled. I don't know if Kendrick is booking the show at the Scotia Bank
Starting point is 00:09:46 arena and people not showing up to just boo him. Can't even trust people at the airport. Who can you really truck in Toronto? I think everybody that goes to a Kendrick's in Toronto is going there strictly to try to ruin his show. Every chance he got, top five swore up and down that Kendrick wasn't going to make it out of Canada alive. He can't come to Toronto. So his real life is not just music. Why don't you think everything's a joke? I'm a serious motherfucking guy. But it seemed that his street cred doesn't cross day lines.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Because people on the West like Wack 100 and TDE affiliates like Smack insisted there was nothing to worry about. Dude is nobody. Come on, we watch this same dude get mush in the face and kicked in the ass. Oh, I was only 19. I don't know when y'all come from, bro. We off the porch at 12, right? We ain't going for that. What you mean?
Starting point is 00:10:33 It was only 19 when you got mush in the face and kicked in the ass. How are you supposed to be when you got the heart of a man? man, not allow that to happen. So, you know, dude, just do a lot of talk. A little dude, a hundred forty pounds, do a lot of talk. Ain't nobody worried about dude. It's beefing the top five from Toronto. They're going to class whenever they meet us.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Oh, God, bitch. He threatening us. He threatens us. He's all off the tables now. Yeah. It's off the table. You threaten us. You fucking your whole family.
Starting point is 00:11:02 I hope they send this to you. Everybody go tag him in it. You pussy beat. And for the most part, the public agree. I'm from Toronto and think top five is a goofball. Nobody fin to touch Kenny. Besides all the tough talk, footage of him wearing a bra didn't exactly help his reputation.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Not to mention other videos of him getting utterly punked by others in the city he allegedly runs. You know, man, I'm fucking somebody, dog. Stay outside my, stay outside, my, stick. Stay outside, dude, get out of my, kid. You just boomed on, okay, that fuck out, boy. Who's you fucking pointing out, dude? I'll boom on you right now, dude.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Sorry, this top five. I don't go fucking the fuck you talk to. I don't like you Drake ass. Get the fuck off the street, you bum ass, look it. We're flip-plops, look, motherfucker. Stuff you ain't now, dude. This was a fake video chat. This is a skit.
Starting point is 00:11:53 When Kendrick finally pulled up to Canada, Top 5 put on a whole performance, trying to force his way into the hotel like he was really about that life. Lock off every door in the noble hotel. Not even cut everything off. Man bought everything. He's a bitch.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And, of course, had an altercation on with Hita J3, where he declared that I'm convinced Crotie the police. Ultimately, Dot played the show with no issue whatsoever, and for a little while, Top 5 disappeared back into relative irrelevancy. But this was about to come to an end when he accompanied Drake to London for his residency at the Wireless Festival there. From the moment they arrived in the English capital, Top 5 was doing his utmost to let the UK know that he intended to be the man on their streets.
Starting point is 00:12:41 But all he was about to learn was that he wasn't untouchable in the way that he had previously claimed. There's no killers in the UK. There's like serious guys, we're not gonna come kill us. No. They're not gonna kill us for safe. You can even show your addresses. Just hours after these comments were made, he got stabbed, essentially making this meme a reality. And after acting out the way that he did, he didn't get any sympathy.
Starting point is 00:13:03 He got cloned hard. Is he stupid? He's talking about killers with guns in a country where guns are completely banned. It's a different breed in mind. and mindset. Top 5 met the roadman out in London. In the wake of the assault and top 5's hospitalization, the whole thing was subject to a police investigation. If you was in your car yesterday, yeah, and you pulled up to the party where top 5 got stabbed, you're getting teapacked. Trust me, they said they want to know who stabbed top 5. They need to find out. And this only led to further
Starting point is 00:13:31 speculation that he cooperated with cops with the UK rapper Ratlin, labeling him a police boy. But above all, he should learn a lesson that when he's in an unfamiliar place, is perhaps wise to not act like he owns the place. When you come to the UK, when you come to London, when you come to Birmingham and Manchester, when you're in different areas in London, foreigners, because this is a message to you guys. Please take us very serious, bro. Because by the sounds of it, he narrowly escaped with his life. Now, top five is good.
Starting point is 00:14:00 He has like a big laceration. It was kind of deep. He lost a lot of blood. He went through surgery. He's going to have full recovery. That's a fact. But it's going to take a little while. I think he said it's like 17 inches, but you know, but I ain't allowed.
Starting point is 00:14:15 For what it's worth, yes, somebody definitely went, you know, try to try to kill him, you know. With that incident, Top 5 joins a whole host of apparent drake goons who have hindered his image more than they've helped it. And in the aftermath of the Kendrick Lamar beef, there are few people this applies to more than Baca not nice. A longstanding crew member, Baca and Drizzi have been rolling together since at least the more life era, Where a jersey tapped into his gangster bag by spitting, That's Baca. He's a no longer talker. Quick to let the tech slam.
Starting point is 00:14:46 We don't need to hear about a next man. Ute's talk down. They get ran down. In actual fact, he met Drake on the set of Prime's video for In My Hood. Way back in 2010, gradually entering his inner circle since. And once Drake began to develop a harder persona, having someone who spent eight years in the pen in his circle could only be a good thing. While for Baca, it gave him a chance at a music career, enabling him to join OVO.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And since then, He's rolled with him to the fullest, insisting that any disrespect wouldn't be tolerated. You got to understand something. If you're going to disrespect my boss, my brother and my friend, for anybody on my team, I'm going to feel offended. It would be weird if I did. Those are my brothers. Those are the men that I eat with. Break bread, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:28 So, yeah, of course I feel offended. But at the same time, I know that Drizzi Drake is a grown man and he can handle himself. If he needs me, he can call. He can call, yeah. But these days, you can't hear his name without hearing the words weird pace immediately afterwards, courtesy of Kendrick alluding to his shady dealings with an ex that he pleaded guilty to. Later, Baka claimed that his boss told him not to respond while also insisting there was nothing to obligations. Sorry, it might not have been a call, it might be a text message, but he messaged me.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah. And he's like, I know what you're feeling. I know you as an individual. Yeah. I know how you get down. Yeah. But I'm just letting you know, like, don't listen to the noise because it's noise. And if you go back and look at all these people that are saying things or having anything to say, they're not even actual real people.
Starting point is 00:16:13 They're like bots. So like don't let that shit bother you, bro. Like, and you know what? Like, I mean, it's not a good thing, but they're calling your name. You know what I'm saying? And at the end of the day, and at the end of the day, you know, they're going to get over this crap because they're going to realize there's this crap. And then they're going to go do their own research. And when you do your own research, you're going to be like, wow, this guy made up a whole story about something that isn't true.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And it makes you look weird to me. I don't know. It does. But in all honesty. doing research is the last thing he should have asked anyone to do. 2014, Baca was arrested in charge with forcing a 22-year-old woman into prostitution and taking her money. In 2015, he pleaded guilty to assault on the woman, an unrelated weapons charge. He was sentenced to six months.
Starting point is 00:16:52 But since he had already spent 10 months in custody, he was not required to serve any additional time. The woman actually refused to testify, which led to the charges of forcing her into prostitution and human trafficking to be dropped. The reason why it stuck is because it sounded good and it sounded fun. and it sounded disrespectful. Baca got a weird case wise he around. He put a whole plan together to make a record to dismantle y'all. That's all it was about. It was about causing friction from within saying, have you ever thought OVO was working for me? You know what I'm saying? Even for the person who might have not been working for him at all, y'all said y'all fed him information. And if the goal was to divide and conquer, as Waino suggested, it definitely worked to an extent. Because these days,
Starting point is 00:17:31 the guy who's supposed to be the big bad wolf in Drake's corner is getting clowned on every post that bears his name. And plus, they've only been pictured together sparingly since it all went down, with Baca not even making his way to London. With incidents like this mounting up, and his team struggling to retain any semblance of respect, he must be wondering who he can rely on. And if that's the case, he'll be happy to have Chubs. Unlike someone like Top 5, Chubs has been with him since the outset. Prime had met Drake and introduced us to Drake. We didn't know him back then, so Prim was rapping and Drake was rapping, Drake was really good, you know? So when I first heard Drake, I was kind of like, You're sure you want to embrace this like that because he's really good.
Starting point is 00:18:09 But yeah, it's the best decision we ever made. When I first got on the road, it was security, make sure he's straight at all time. You know, we went to New York first. He shot the video for the best I ever had. He asked me to come to Miami, we went to Miami. And he was just like, yeah, why don't you just stay on the road? And I was like 14 years ago. I haven't come off the road yet.
Starting point is 00:18:26 The man who has acted as his head of security for years, Chubs is always by Drake's side. He was probably the one with him during the punked episode, where Drake got so scared that they didn't even even even air it because it was too embarrassing. I think like one of my favorite ones is one that we did at the end. We punked Drake and we created an earthquake inside of a parking garage. A lot of people didn't see it, but we legitimately like turned a parking garage into an earthquake zone. And he was in the car and we started like rattling the car in the whole garage.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And he jumped in his buddy's lap and he's like literally, he feedered up. He like, Canadian fetled up into his buddy's lap. No. And I was like, yo, Drake just feet up. And even the footage that did make the air didn't exactly portray himself as a tough guy. Bro, it says it right here on the back. Who are the fuck are you going? Dude, what is this?
Starting point is 00:19:16 Why do you have this? It's the secret service, what the fuck? What do you have this? No, no, no. What do you do with that thing, guys? Move this car. Taze your wife, tase your wife. Oh my God, oh my God, dude.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Oh, my God, did you just tased your wife? Still, while women come and go, and even his relationship, relationship with his dad has become strained, Chubs has been a constant, saluting him as far back as the liner notes of Thank Me Later, all the way up to his henchman's 40th birthday party. That's my dog right there. As a 38-year-old, I just want to say, happy 40th, brother. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, hey, hey, listen, listen, we're all one family, one family. We celebrate together, you know what I'm saying, highs and lows. We celebrate the lows, too, by the way. This is my recommendation. to you. Sometimes you gotta celebrate the lows too. And by all accounts, if there's anyone who's truly put himself on the line and took
Starting point is 00:20:12 penitentiary chances for Drake, it's him. For one thing, he apparently put his hands on producer detailed during a dispute about whether or not he wanted to work on Trisie's album and apparently got his face broken in the process. I'll beat all your ass including his bitches. Chab's apparently said him did the beat down. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I will hit you again. Do you think Drake is soft? You think Drake's are punk? Afterwards, Detail says he was so badly hurt that he couldn't work for a year. He asked Drake repeatedly and in vain to cover his medical expenses. This sort of sentiment would be echoed by someone like Mo Jeefe, a Toronto artist who was shouted out on the track Summer 16, before falling afoul to OVO, after claiming he wasn't properly compensated for his work on Drizzi's tracks.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Left angered by it all, he took his grievances to the internet. Have you ever heard in the history of hip-hop, a man that gives always creativity and helps make billboard hits but doesn't get paid a dollar for one credit for a year stuck in the hood? You know what I'm saying? That doesn't make sense. But exposing these niggas will make sense. Fuck you bitch-ass, this is on. Oliver's a fucking snake-ass nigger, double-headed snake-ass nigger. Just to let the world know, I never got paid no 12 grand.
Starting point is 00:21:17 For the record, I'm not signed it over yo. And all my real fans have been rocking me from day one, check the history. I always delete all my posts. And I deleted it because I got bigger info coming to you right now. And just days later, he was in the hospital after a beat down. from a parent Drake Goons, most likely led by Chubs himself. Another man who can attest to Drake's points getting active would be none other than Dramm, who claims he was on the receiving end of a beating from his security.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Hey, somebody tell Drake to shut the fuck up about that shit, man. Fucking five years ago, this nigga never even fucking touched me, nigga. I pressed his ass. His fucking bodyguards goddamn. I ain't gonna hold you. His bodyguards went to town on the kid. But his bodyguards, they're not his bitch ass. He ain't touched me.
Starting point is 00:22:02 He's a bitch. I forgot that Drake got it into it with Drum. Damn. Drake on the win streak. You know that. You want to have your guards. That's cool though. Ain't touch me though.
Starting point is 00:22:13 And that shit from five years ago. Come on, nigga. Who else? Like, you know what I'm saying? Why don't you keep bringing up? Won't you bring out how you got smacked by a ditty or some shit? With Dram and everyone who's received a beating from the OVO team, all claiming that Drake himself wasn't actively involved.
Starting point is 00:22:28 It paints a picture of a man who won't do his own dirty work. And when someone actually does press him face to face, He usually takes the L. Like back in 2014 at DJ Kala's birthday party, Rahan Didi got into it over the 0 to 100. And Drake definitely didn't come out on top. I was laying in my bed and my phone kept bringing. I'm like, why have my phone keep ringing at 4 o'clock in the morning?
Starting point is 00:22:47 So I go to look at my phone and it's my dude. Like my dude. And he ain't no just random guy in the club. This is somebody that everybody knows. He's like, boy, you wouldn't just believe what happened. I'm like what? Did he just slap Drake? Slapped or punched?
Starting point is 00:23:02 I heard a slap. very happy that you know Diddy slapdobber that's just that's just the bullshit in me that appreciates that I actually said to the email and said you're my hero and while some might argue that Drake had to take it given Diddy's newly unveiled superhero status it's important to remember that his friend Jay Cole had thrown hands with Diddy a year later at a VMA's after party with no verifiable evidence that Drake has ever been in a fight he has instead built a crew which features affiliates of Gigi gang and halal gang the former of which stole DJ Drama's chain after his apparent role in the Meek and Drake beef, before shouting out the Toronto Star in the process.
Starting point is 00:23:38 This is what you fucking get for not checking in. Shout out boy, Jizier. Triple G-G's, you know how he rock, slap, blah, clap. Then, there are his dealings with members of the reps-up label, including Geyway or Galloway boys gang members like Gila and P. Rank. And of course, there's perhaps the biggest force field of all in J. Prince. In case you're not familiar, this Rapalot Records CEO has held sway over Houston for a long time. He has gone down in hip-hop history as an individual who can't be messed with. Just asked his former artist Yuckmouth about how he commands respect. Jay is connected. Like you get him, you know what I mean, with the Chicago, the Chicago connection, you know what I mean with the big homie in Chicago, I ain't going to throw his name out there like that.
Starting point is 00:24:22 He's connected with all the big homes. Jay is tapped in with too many real nick. And too many motherfuckers love him and got respect for him to let anything go bad talking about him, period. He got too much respect and love from everybody, and he fucks with everybody. So good luck getting away talking about that man. Over the year, since Drizzi's first linked up with the mogul's son, Jazz Prince, Jay has maintained that he would always have Drake's back. And when his beef with Kanye reached his height, people believed that he put the screws to Ye when he made him issue a public statement,
Starting point is 00:24:49 which looked like a hostage situation. I'm making this video to address the ongoing back and forth between myself and Drake. Both me and Drake have taken shots to each other, and it's time to put it to rest. I'm asking Drake on December 7 to join me on stage as a special guest to share the two biggest hours of the year Live in Los Angeles with the ultimate purpose being to free Larry Hoover. I believe this event will not only bring awareness to our cause but prove to people everywhere How much more we can accomplish when we lay our pride to the side. Immediately, people saw through the notion of this being organic.
Starting point is 00:25:25 But Drake just not saying a word told me all I needed to know about this appearance. and what it is and what it meant and hopefully none of us and none of you want ever be in this type of predicament Jay Prince is there with his hands folded not even not even making sure that you read in the right shit off there ain't a worry in the world He might as well go make some coffee he's the type of guy people say can ruin careers if he really wants to which led to comments like Jay Prince definitely typed the whole thing out he looks like there's a gun pointed at him off camera However beyond the beyond the smoke screen that he's provided by all these people around him Drake still can't seem to shake the image that he is soft, which has been following him around since the origins of his career. Not to mention that when he does try to assert himself, it's only met with laughter.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And if there's any reason why that is the case, it isn't down to any external factor. Instead, it is simply the doing of Drake himself. Because while some suggest that the belief that he's essentially a weakling comes from a broad generalization about Toronto, others feel like it's a direct byproduct of how he is as a guy. In their mind, Drake is the soft light skin Canadian. And in the American arrogant ignorant mind, all of Canada is maple syrup and hockey. So when Drake raps about any testosterone or references anything street, it registers as pure fantasy and fraudulent because they can't fathom that Drake could possibly have an ounce of toughness
Starting point is 00:26:42 or have any connection or relationship with anything or anybody street. I promise you, nobody is calling Drake soft because he's Canadian. They say he's soft because he was on the grassy and how he carries himself, wearing bonnets, nail polish. And I'm a Drake fan. Given the perception that he is an actor... Nah, that's not fair. We definitely seen a young thug with a dress and he was still killing people. I mean, I mean, um, he was getting...
Starting point is 00:27:04 He wasn't doing nothing, but you know what I mean. Yeah. After playing a role, it explains why the use of hundreds of guns in the video for what did I miss seemed anything but legitimate. It even got heavily critiqued by people like Charlemagne, who just couldn't fathom how it seemed like a good idea. I hate that. Half of the people who are commenting are gun haters or Democrats. I love guns.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I have about probably two-thirds of the guns that are there. I mean, I get it if you're, like, trying to talk tough and you lay them all out. Maybe he does look away, but I love guns. And I mean, unless he's like, yo, I'm going to shoot you. I'll just look at it. It was symbolic. So many people that you had to go ahead.
Starting point is 00:27:49 It's a cool record. I mean, Drake can rap. Drake can make music. We know that. But, I mean, y'all don't think it's extremely corny for him to be in a video surrounded by guns. No, absolutely it is. Y'all don't think that's extremely corny.
Starting point is 00:28:01 The song, honestly, it just sounds like another good Drake hit. It don't really sound like... I don't even know if I don't know if I said it's a hit. It's a cool record. I mean, like another Drake, you know, single. Like the vibe, like a vibey single. Why is he in the video surrounded by gun? What is the point?
Starting point is 00:28:18 You want to go to war because you got off the rap battle? This record would make a lot of sense if Drake hadn't said nothing for the last year and a half. Yep. Yeah, yeah. He hadn't said a word, no lawsuits, no nothing. He hadn't said nothing. He just came like, what did I miss? Yeah. I didn't know what y'all was on. Like, that would make- Why so many people be having, like, they have so much advice for Drake, but they don't like Drake.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Like, I'm so confused. It's kind of going back off what I say yesterday about Ebro and them niggis. They want Drake to accept the L and just go away, but they cover everything Drake does. You know what I mean? It's like, come on, bro. yeah a lot of people like you don't like sometimes media personalities like I really think they happen though
Starting point is 00:28:59 bro you put like this even this stream I'm doing Nick I just threw Drake naming the title bro Drake gives us content yo I hate y'all media person yo Drake the only rapper who's consistent he's the only nigga giving a shit to talk about other guys don't give shit to talk about
Starting point is 00:29:14 Charlemagne your check is Samba I heart you need shit to talk about Joe Budin your 20 million comes because you need shit to talk about my money comes because I need shit to talk about about Drake's our guy you could be fine you hate him now because he didn't give you an interview Elliot Wilson or whoever but we all love Drake Drake Drake gives us Drake is one of the reasons why we're always thriving we're always thriving I forgot to do a Drake topic
Starting point is 00:29:39 yesterday I'm about to do it today like why I think is be acting like yo niggins me saying dumb shit you know Drake should just really take some time off dray should do this bro how about you take some time on from your job right Joe button went on on vacation for like a day and a half. He back. You know why you want to get to his 20 million. Fuck with it. When it comes to Drake,
Starting point is 00:30:00 nigga, he's saying all the type of shit. Now, Drake should, yo, he should just stay quiet and not be seen till next year. Bro, we talk about everything he does. If he posts, if he get nail polish on his finger, we talk about it.
Starting point is 00:30:09 If he fucking doesn't tie his sneakers, if he takes some mirror picture, we talk about everything. Again, I don't mind because he helped us do what we need to do in media. He gives us shit to talk about. everybody else is just, they'd be lying.
Starting point is 00:30:25 They'd be like, yo, bro, if Drake don't, if Drake disappear, you got nothing to talk about. There's nothing to talk about. There's nothing to talk about. All of these niggas who claim Drake should go away and just die and whatever, and accept his loss, they have nothing to talk about but Drake. Bro, Drake is still feeding the ecosystem. Let's keep it a bean.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And we're all media personalities. This is how we make our money. Drake, sneak this another nigga. I need to have a full breakdown of it. I want to watch, oh, remind me, I got to watch the What's the Dirt video. That's my boy. You know, Drake giving everybody the content. He's given the haters.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Yo, put it like this. There's certain men's, I don't even want to call their names. Because they're kind of irrelevant now because the beef is kind of done. But every time Drake drops, they're like, yo, I told you, I told you Drake is falling off. This is poop. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Yo, here's the funny thing. It don't matter if you like Drake or don't like Drake, the fact.
Starting point is 00:31:22 fact is the people who claim he's a cancer, he's a sickness, he's, he's a predator, whatever you want to say, y'all all talk about him all day, me too, we all talk about him. We all just talk about Drake, Drake, Drake been feeding everybody, pause. Like, we just talk about Drake and we all make our money, he make his, and life goes on. Like, bro, while we acting like, this is some very, like, crazy idea, like, come on, bro, Drake post another duck lips Picture that we could overanalyze and be like Yo, why Drake is acting gay?
Starting point is 00:31:58 Like, yeah, that's how it goes. Why niggas be acting like that, bro? Somebody said people make, yo, no. Bro, they talk about Drake all day, bro. Like none of these things make, bro. None of these other things out talking about Make no type of news, my nigga. Like, yo, we all talk about Drake.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Drake dropped two records. You're going to have all the YouTubers who claim they're with Kendrick, they're going to, they rush to their computer to do a video to say, this shit sucks. I told you he's fucking. Bro.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And then they look at AdSense and be like, all right, good. Shit, it's working. It don't matter. You're still talking about the guy. Listen, a niggis fully irrelevant when you don't talk about him. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Oh, my God. 20. Don't do that. Now, all right, if I lose this, nigger, I'm cashing out. Cashing out of $4,49. But at end of the day, yo, yo, hip hip-hop media is so hypocritical. Like, listen, I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Like, just like the Diddy trial fed all of us. Like, we all covered the Diddy trial. We all had our hot takes or whatever about the Diddy trial. That's a fact. You get what I'm saying? So you could hate Diddy, but, you know, you know why I do try to, like, you know, be fair or whatever when it comes to shit like, Diddy. Like, my nigga, like, for two months straight, I covered the fucking trial.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Like, we ran it up. Like, what are you going to do? act like oh you're just doing this because you're more oh my god don't tell me oh nigger had blackjack oh my god fuck all right alright if I
Starting point is 00:33:43 lose this is clip gang if I lose this clip gang if I lose this clip damn if I lose this clip damn I should just like go out there damn nigga pull blackjack on my ass man why oh it work like this
Starting point is 00:34:00 fuck damn you go start my stream man because I'm here loki getting drunk brough they give me a 17 while they got a 3 a 17 is not a strong hand versus a 3
Starting point is 00:34:25 but I can't hit so it's like whatever yeah I'm gonna react to the um the ice man shit come on bro please just bust this up bro other than that I'm clicking right off of this page 10 oh my god it's always like this chat it's always like this I think steak
Starting point is 00:34:47 is rigging the shit against me 13 Big one. Let's go! Let's go! Yeah, let's go. I was about to say, I think steak rigging this shit against me, gang.
Starting point is 00:35:00 I know y'all think they'd be rigging it for me because, like, I'm with steak and kick, but like I'd be thinking they'd be rigging it against. Chat, put it like this. When I get out of here, I get to withdraw the money. Like, I know there's probably like an idea like, oh, you're playing with fake money. If I get out right now, I send that to my crypto wallet.
Starting point is 00:35:18 You know what I mean? Now, we have me and steak. We do other things, but the gambling portion is, they just give me $7,000. I don't know why the fuck they only give me $3,500 now. Yo, Grant, talk to these things, man. But anyway, so they gave me $3,500. I could dip right now. I got $8,000.
Starting point is 00:35:47 But if I lose it, nigga, they don't be like, oh, yo, here's your money still. Nah, they be like, yo, tough luck, nigga. Tough fucking luck. Seen Cardi B at SummerSlam. What do you mean, Karie? be a slum summer slam what happened so much a crypto in cash they sent it to my wallet what do you talk about or niggit or you could get it in cash too metro album streams no no i'm gonna watch episode two breakdown i look you want to watch this oh let me make more sense
Starting point is 00:36:23 yeah but you in the videos surrounded by a bunch of choppers you're the canadian chopper slinger now because rather than altering the nary i'm at 7500 If, if, okay, if I lose this bet, and I'm gonna go one more time. One more time, chat, just spam, get off the table. I'm, I'm in the attic when it comes to this. Just spam it. Get your bitch ass off the table and start your stream. You get me?
Starting point is 00:36:50 If I lose this and the next hand. Fuck. I got a 13. It's not a, that good. Okay, 16. Doesn't make it any better, but okay. Oh! Oh, that's 22.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I thought that was 21. but that was 16 out 50. All right. I'm going to go one more time. I'm going to go one more time. It'll be 800 because I just do progressive. So I just double up the bed every time. That would be $6,700 that I get to take.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Oh, my God, 21. Let's go. If I lose this, I'm getting off the table. It brings to mind that the bars of Euphoria where Kada spit that. I hate when a rapper talk about. guns. Then somebody dying, they turn it to nuns. Saying pray for my city, they fake him for likes and digital hugs. After all, this is the same guy who once dedicated a verse on Snoop Lion's
Starting point is 00:38:06 no guns allowed to Cheyenne Charles and Joshua Yaseh. Two youths that died in Toronto with bars like news from back home. No! Two more young names to be- Oh, he pulled a blackjack. I can't go out like that. I'm sorry. I know I should have got off, but I can't go out like that. I'm not a bitch. Hey there What the fuck? Congratulations on what?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Congratulations on reaching the VIP Oh They just gave me some shit Give me Oh my God Bro Damn yeah That's not gonna win
Starting point is 00:38:42 I'm not gonna win Fuck 20 Yeah I'm off the table I'll take the 5100 All right man Let's start the motherfucking stream Arved out of stone
Starting point is 00:38:54 And you can bet that if top five Had lost his life Then he would have been directly online paying tribute to the man who was happy to act like Drake's enforcer. Aside from corny stunts like that, there is also the simple fact that he's been punked numerous times, including the incident where a friend of TI's once peed on Drizzi's leg, and there was basically no repercussions. The wild this shit I've ever seen before in my f***in' life, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:17 But I ain't had no malicious intent. Yeah, I shut it down. I don't want it to be weaponized against nobody. And when I said it right now, it wasn't the victimized cuz. It was like, yeah, that shit happened. And I were pissed off in my pun. when it happened. I don't see how I could ever be taken as a, you know what I'm saying, like as a dish. I don't see how it could be. That would be somewhat allowing their emotions to manipulate them.
Starting point is 00:39:39 This leads to another K-dot lyric that's aging like fine wine. Don't let another man pee on your leg, son. Either you die right there or shoot that man in the head, son. But these incidents don't just happen when he's away from his alleged empire of Toronto either. In 2009, he was robbed for $2,000 in cash, and Aramar Paget Watch, and a diamond chain Lil Wayne had gifted him outside of a restaurant in his native Toronto. I knew it was a setup because I had on a sweater and a jacket. Drake later said of the situation, but when they banged on the car window with a gun
Starting point is 00:40:08 and opened the door, the first thing he said was, yo, run that chain. They didn't rob her and her purse was sitting right there. So I was like, okay, you set the whole thing up. And to make matters worse, initial reports suggested he cooperated with the investigation, something which is rightly or wrongly, a cardinal sin in hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Once again, this was alluded to by Kda on Euphoria with him spitting, Bobby a new ho king eating fried rice with a dip sauce and a blammy, Crotie. Even discounting incidents like this, his upbringing means that he doesn't have the temperament of even someone like him. Okay, man. All right. You know. All right, let's get this motherfucking stream started. Should I play music?
Starting point is 00:40:46 Let me see. So this is the thing I wanted me to watch, right? Trafficking. Although the jury did convict on two counts of transportation of individuals to engage in prostitution, The outcome was widely viewed as a defense victory, since the racketeering and sex trafficking counts were by far. He says you should go to the when I was 29. Okay, so this is Diddy's lawyer?
Starting point is 00:41:12 Okay, here we go. And I know some of this, but for the benefit of my listeners, tell us a bit about your background and your upbringing. Where did you grow up? I started my own firm almost two years ago. All of them a month long or longer. So legendary defense lawyer. Here we are to you. to go from being someone who prosecuted many of these cases to defending the most famous
Starting point is 00:41:35 racketeering case of all at its time? There was a transition, but by the same token, because I knew the racketeering statute so well, I also knew how it could be abused, and I certainly tried to avoid doing that. And I think most prosecutors try to avoid doing that. But I think sometimes with high profile targets, I don't know, maybe they're not as careful as they would be otherwise. It was easier in terms of knowing the law than I thought it was going to be. I have a theory on why they wanted to make this a racketeering case.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I think when the video of Sean Combs and Cassie came out, it was a horrible video. I think that's fair to say. But it was also, I believe, at the time it came out out of the statute of limitations, whereas Rico, if you can establish that something is a racketeering enterprise, you can reach back to all of these prior act. So why do you think they wanted to make it a racketeering case? because, as I think we will get to, there's an argument that it didn't really fit racketeering terribly well.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I agree with you. And I think that was a fatal flaw in the case. And I think they tried to get around it. I'm going to answer your question in a minute. I think they tried to get around it by making it a racketeering conspiracy, which they felt was a little more forgiving because that's the prevailing wisdom.
Starting point is 00:42:46 The problem of the racketeering conspiracy is you need a co-conspirator. Combs can't do it alone. Combs has to do it with not just a co-conspirator on each individual racketeering. act, but on the racketeering enterprise as a whole. And they didn't have combs on that, and they didn't have a conspirator on that. And so they ended up losing the racketeering charge because they just didn't even come close to having remotely enough evidence of it. The attraction is that
Starting point is 00:43:15 you get to dump all of these bad acts into one case. And the prosecutor's goal in these cases is to just kick up so much prejudice. And the idea is, you get to... is it's almost like making like a fish stew. If you have a really fresh fish, you're just going to give it to the customer. But if the fish is a few days old, you're going to cut it up and you're going to put it in a stew with a few onions and some tomatoes and spice
Starting point is 00:43:39 and maybe no one will actually notice that the fish isn't really that good. The same thing is true of racketeering acts. You just throw in all these crappy racketeering acts. And, well, if he didn't do the arson, maybe he did the kidnapping. If he didn't do the arson of the kidnapping, maybe he did the forced labor.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And it's a lot to unwind. So the defense lawyer has a lot to do because Combs was charged in terms of racketeering acts with probably 20 different events. There were three kidnappings. There were four forced labor conspiracies. Each of these forced labor had different events that were part of the charge. So you have to convince the jury that it's all nonsense, that none of it's true. So you end up trying a case that has all of these events in it.
Starting point is 00:44:26 And in this particular instance, when it came to Combs, we got a jury that saw through it that wasn't prejudiced by all of the events that the government threw in. And I think saw through it and rightly acquitted him of the racketeering conspiracy. So let me push back on one thing. You mentioned that there were no co-conspirators or what have you. But the evidence that trial did show that there were many people who were involved in making the arrangements, I guess you could say, or the logistics. or what have you for the so-called freak-offs or what have you. There were a lot of people in his orbit, former assistants, et cetera. So why cannot the Combs Enterprise qualify as a racketeering conspiracy?
Starting point is 00:45:12 So to satisfy the racketeering statute or the conspiracy statute, the co-conspirators would have to knowingly be involved in the charged racketeering activity. So, in other words, at the end of the day, there's no evidence that this was sex trafficking. And so the personal assistance, the other people who work for Mr. Combs, thought this is Mr. Combs and his girlfriend. If they are together or if they have a swinger's lifestyle, what business is it of mine? This is what he does. It seems legal.
Starting point is 00:45:44 There's no indication it's not. There's sort of a strong sort of puritanical, like, thread, I think that ran through the government's case. like, well, you, there's sort of a strong sort of puritanical like thread, I think that ran through the new. There was a possibility that there was going to be another man in that room. Well, so what? Like, what business is it of mine? And it's not a matter of business at all.
Starting point is 00:46:08 The personal assistants were very good about this saying this was his personal life, you know, and I know it was his personal life because when he had these hotel nights, I would go home and rest. I wasn't on call because it wasn't part of his business. And I think that's the way they viewed it. I think that's the way the jury viewed it. So you let it. If you're tuning in, this is Mark Ignifalo, who is, who did a podcast.
Starting point is 00:46:32 This is Dittie's lead attorney. We're not getting back in a Ditty lore. We get it. It's done. But this is the first time he's kind of talked in depth about the case and his understanding. And, you know, he's going to give us a little bit of insight because we're kind of wondering what his team was thinking, what he was thinking. You know, they kind of took some ballsy chance here.
Starting point is 00:46:51 it kind of worked out for them, obviously not all the way because he was convicted of the two man acts, but those are pretty much, you know, usually under five years, right? And it's way better than life in prison. So it looks like his lawyers did a pretty good job. And here's the thing, too. When it comes to his legal team, Mark McNifalo was the first lawyer on the case, and he was the person who did the closing. And he was a lead attorney with Brian Steele and the other.
Starting point is 00:47:21 eight attorneys underneath them or other seven attorneys underneath um brian steel and oh not brian steel but um uh um sorry uh mark ignifalo so it's the first time he's speaking so we kind of get to hear like a strategy and how they were thinking about it and also you know obviously we've heard from lauren conlin we've heard from chan g we've heard from so many people that's been in in the court but we haven't heard from the lawyers right they didn't give a statement they didn't do a press conference they've only spoke to try to get ditty out of jail, but they're still celebrating this as a victory. A sizable team of amazing defense lawyers,
Starting point is 00:47:57 including one of my former guests, Alexandra Shapiro. But it's notable that a lot of these lawyers came from different firms. They're not all with... If the audio's cut in and out, people, especially my audio, please just refresh the stream. I'm looking at it on my end, it should be fine. So if the audio is fucking up, just refresh the stream, please. and Zach and Tenney. How did that team come together? Did you put it together? Did Sean Combs put it together?
Starting point is 00:48:26 How did you all coalesce? It was a combination of me and Sean. I brought in Alexandria's firm, and I brought in Cher Tramante and Anna Esteval. And I really had a vision for the defense that it was going to be women led and young women led. Okay. I thought that was important. And we were lucky enough to have great young women lawyers. My partner, Tenney, early 30s, has been through the wars, was with me for Riniari, it was with me with Roger, was with me for all these huge trials. In my view, she had a breakout trial. She gave a stirring, wonderful opening, Anna Esteval Cross Cassie. Now, I had written the whole cross of Cassie. I wrote the whole thing. I had it ready to go. And one day I'm in my office until about two in the morning and I decide to walk home,
Starting point is 00:49:22 which is about an hour and a half walk. And I'm looking for the streets of New York to help me with the trial, right? And I realize I can't do the cross-of-cassie. It's the wrong thing. Because let's say I box her in, I outflank her. I use my 35 years of cross-examination experience to trip her up or make her look less credible. I lose ground even from that. And I started to realize I need a young woman. I've never necessarily been one to believe that a certain type of person should cross-examine a certain type of person. I think juries see through that stuff. So the only way it was going to work in this case is the defense had to be authentically and thoroughly woman-led. Like it can't be a token, it can't be a gesture. It has to be authentic and it has to be a real commitment.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And it's a commitment that I realized we had to make and that we should make. Oh, wow. Shit, I'm gaining more respect for him as I'm listening to this. I thought basically Diddy was like, yo, bro, I want her to do this, her do this, her do this. He's basically saying even though he's the main lawyer for Diddy, it became to a person. point where, you know, in sexual cases, they're going to think, especially a bulldog, a bulldozer type of lawyer, bro, you're just a guy. Like, yeah, you're thinking how a guy thinks. You don't understand victims.
Starting point is 00:50:51 You don't understand women. And you're hearing Mark Ignifalo say, I realize that even though I'm the lead, I'm going to have to surround this case with women, young women attorneys who could do a lot of heavy lifting. we can't just have a token woman go talk to Cassie and then all the men talk to everybody else. You need the women. And by the way, Nicole Westmeline, I don't, hey, listen, I would love for you to come sit with me or, you know, let's do something on Zoom or something like that. I would love to talk to you. I think you're a star.
Starting point is 00:51:23 You are an absolute star. Hope your rates go up. I love what you did. As a black woman in that case, the only black woman who was the attorney there, you were, you know, you were the, you were the, You were the hidden gem. And I think you did an amazing job. Tenny Garigos, she did an amazing job. Anna Stavio, right?
Starting point is 00:51:44 Who did a fucking amazing job as well because I think she, did she do, did she do, Cassie? Anyway, I'm really excited to hear, like, the behind the scenes of how this worked. Agnifalo basically said, I made these decisions to say, now let her go do it. Remember, did he try?
Starting point is 00:52:05 trust you. Did he trust you? So you allowing other people to do certain things, if these people fuck it up or fumble it, and you hear him say, I wrote the entire Cassie Cross. So he wrote it. So like there's, he probably wrote all the questions that she has a notepad or something like that, but she's allowed to riff and do what she needs to do. And shit, that's kind of dope. Wow. And I was lucky because we had these outstanding young women lawyers. So, Tenney did the opening and did just an epic opening. It set the stage for the whole rest of the trial. Anna did a great, patient,
Starting point is 00:52:43 Cassie, thoughtful, non-aggressive, but effective cross of Cassie. Yes. Tenney did the same thing with the woman we call Jane. And so the women had the big... Nicole Westmaline annihilated Don Richard. Biggest crosses in the case and the opening. And it was a genuine thing.
Starting point is 00:53:07 If the jury would have seen it as something other than that, it wouldn't have worked. But it was real. It came from kind of the heart of the defense. This is what it is. And so that was certainly a decision that I made. And there was a controversy around it. This was Teddy's first opening statement in any case. Really?
Starting point is 00:53:24 So her first opening in her career is the Sean Holmes trial. And she kills it. She knocks it out of the... Her first opening statement is in the biggest case where Did he, know his life is on the line. Wow. To this day, the press is talking about the opening. And I don't know that I've ever seen a trial where two weeks after the verdicts, they're still talking about the opening.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And it's because the opening really set the stage. It put everything in motion in this very measured, kind of just a measured way that in a sense only I think a young woman who really knows the facts and no one knew the facts like Tenney know could do. and she was perfect that way and Anna was the perfect person to cross Cassie so the defense started to take shape in these different ways
Starting point is 00:54:12 and ultimately I had to get buy-in from Sean and he did and one of the things Sean said to Tenney right before her opening and I'll never forget it he says this is my life but this is your moment and my life this is my life this is your moment wow if the stakes couldn't be motherfucking hire. You're telling someone, my life is hanging in the balance, but this is the
Starting point is 00:54:39 moment that you become a fucking star. God damn. We'll be best served if you rise to your moment. And Taney went out there and rose to her moment. You did mention that you wanted women, young women lawyers, to play this very central role in the case. Will you perhaps responding to some extent to the prosecution's staffing of this case? Because I believe that all of the half dozen or so AUSAs on this case were women? Hey, by the way, King DJ Tricks, thank you for the hosting for the 20 viewers on Kick. Appreciate you, brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Was I, maybe on some level, I was, but I don't think it was that much of a counterpunch. I think it was our authentic strategy. And there's certain things that I've learned in 35 years, and I feel like I'm pretty light on my feet. I can cross, I know trial feel. but sometimes there's a type of sincerity and genuineness that comes from chat we're not we're not only covering this like i have a whole bunch of topics um we were gambling on um kick before so someone suggested this and and shit i'm kind of like hooked
Starting point is 00:55:46 a little bit so let me listen to like a little bit more of this and then we're going to get we got a bunch of other topics just to give you a preview um bunch of stuff i didn't get to yesterday so i do want to get to today remind me i want to get to the curucci and um Dion Sanders thing. I didn't know what was going on there. I want to get to reacting to my man What's the Dirt Iceman episode breakdown. 6-9 Mello B
Starting point is 00:56:08 Kodak, YB, Ra, Ra, Ralee versus Cardi B. That's some stuff about a big X to plug. Tile the Creator. Some more stuff about Cassie lawsuit. I was going to do it
Starting point is 00:56:24 after this, but it involves another video, and I know when I start stream you guys don't want to just play a bunch of videos so i might just you know whatever we're going to get to o t vani which i should have done yesterday and then we're going to get to um drake making a statement um i believe he's in amsterdam so we'll we'll get to all those things all right so we do have pretty much a good a good amount of topics that we could rock up for a couple hours with if you guys and remember this stream is only as good as what you guys bring to it so whether it's a donation or whatever however you could get me and a topic that you think is important that i haven't mentioned
Starting point is 00:56:57 and you're like, act, you need to talk about this shit. Please, just do it, all right? So I'm just getting this insight from Mark Ignifalo. Usually I see these things before and watch it off stream. I'm kind of like, I feel like I'm doing homework on stream right now, but you guys can do it with me. Someone who hasn't. Oh, meek tweets.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Thank you. I got to put that towards the end of the stream, bro. Meek tweets. Done it as many times as I have. And that's really how it came across. Like, the cross-examination of Cassie I thought was fast. because Anna was just genuine and authentic the whole way. She wasn't trying to catch her.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I don't think we pointed out an inconsistent statement or said that she was lying about anything. Not one time it was all, but then you sent this text message, right? And you sent this text. That's, you know, I was listening to Vlad's interview today on the Breakfast Club. I consume content all day.
Starting point is 00:57:51 So, and there was a part where they were arguing with Vlad. They were like, yo, did Cassie have, immunity. Now, I was never mentioned in court that she had immunity. But I think that was particular. The way that they cross-examine Cassie, they never wanted to seem like they were attacking her. Not for her sexual proclivity.
Starting point is 00:58:15 They didn't want to call her a whore. They didn't want to call her a slut. They didn't want to call her a liar. And even though now I feel some people are starting to think this, They don't want to call her a manipulator of the situation. They understood she's pregnant. She's being seen as a victim and she's a woman. Do not antagonize.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Don't try to corner her and don't try to make her seem like the bad guy. So for example, we've seen with a lot of other people. Hey, you know, when it came to, you know, some of the assistants or whoever else, it was asked, hey, were you given immunity? Like, why, why are you here? Oh, I was subpoena. Were you given immunity? Yes, I was. This was to make the jury aware that these people had a, you know, they had some impetus to say what the state or not the state, but the U.S. government, one of them say. When it came to Cassie, they didn't point that out at all because that was a very thin line that it could be seen like they're trying to make the quote, quote, victim, Cassie, look like she's the bad guy. So they stayed away from that a lot. And I'm not going to lie. I think that was a really good strategy. Because in trying to derail or decode or, you know, completely, you know, sum up or violate her.
Starting point is 00:59:43 I mean, violate it. I mean, like, get the one up on her in her testimony. You couldn't attack Cassie. She's pregnant. She's crying. She claims she's the victim. The government claims she's the victim. He's a woman.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Did he is seen as this rich oligarch who you got to treat her carefully. So they never, ever called her a liar. They brought up some things and be like, maybe you misremembered, but they never cornered her. Now, Don Rishar, they cornered. They never cornered Cassie. That's how you felt at the time, right? Yeah, that's how I felt.
Starting point is 01:00:17 And we were so good at really mastering the written communications. We realized that King Buck, thank you for the eye. gifted membership, my boy. If we could do that and if we could master the written communications, at least as well as the government lawyers did, that's our best chance for success because they had this relationship in real time. And our view is that Cassie and Jane to a certain extent were looking back at a relationship in hindsight with maybe some measure of regret or not.
Starting point is 01:00:49 But this is a relationship that happened in real time. Reader thing for the I gifted. And if you can make that relationship. relationship real for the jury, that's what you have to do. You mentioned you weren't really trying to have a gotcha kind of cross-examination with Cassie. But another one of the very talented lawyers on your team, Nicole Westmoreland, did elicit what Judge Subramanian called a, quote, real Perry Mason moment, close quote, in one of the
Starting point is 01:01:15 crosses she did. Nicole is awesome. Nicole is a great lawyer, a great person, and a great cross-examiner. and we put Nicole with witnesses who we think were not going to be as honest as some of the other witnesses. And Nicole just went and took care of business. Nicole is just a very skilled cross-examiner. And so we needed that as well. I never was of the view that Cassie was going to get up there in a lot.
Starting point is 01:01:43 I think that she was going to have a different view of her relationship now than when she was living it. Wow. Interesting. So they never thought Cassie was going to come up there and lie. They just thought that Cassie was just going to recount the relationship with Sean very differently now than maybe how Sean recounts it. Interesting. And whether that's lying, I guess, is up for debate, but she wasn't going to get there and lie. So we didn't need to do that to her.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And we didn't look to do that to her. Some of the witnesses, I think we're getting up there to lie. And that's where Nicole came in. And Nicole handled it and handled it very effectively. So to zoom up a little bit higher, did you have an overarching defense theme? And I know, of course, we saw some of these themes in both Tennie's opening and your closing, but if you could have a pithy summary of how you were thinking about the case, how would you describe it? This was all his personal life, and these were all his girlfriends. The heart of the case was his personal life. The government didn't find that he did anything wrong on his businesses. They didn't find there's anything wrong with the long.
Starting point is 01:02:53 that he got or with the hundreds of millions of dollars that passed through his businesses. Had they found something wrong with that, that would have been in the indictment. And so they charged into his bedroom and into his private hotel rooms uninvited because these are not women who went to the police. These are women who either did nothing or went to civil lawyers because after the fact they wanted a certain sum of money. And so that was the real theme that this was his personal life. It was nobody's business.
Starting point is 01:03:23 the government was making this into something that it was not. And so everything in the case was around that. Now, we also had to admit, we admitted it right up front, that there was domestic violence. And there was domestic violence with Cassie a number of times through the years. I realized early on, we have to fully take account of that. The word I use, we have to own that. We have to take all the dispute out of that. The government's not going to have to prove that these. things happen, we'll admit it in the opening, and we won't give a hard time to the witnesses who truthfully testify about these things. So that was another part of it, because I thought what the government was going to try to do was to say, if you have this violence in the past,
Starting point is 01:04:10 it's a short walk from that to the force or coercion required for sex trafficking. So we had to separate the two, and we had to own one because one was committed, and we had to fight the sex trafficking because we firmly believe and the jury firmly believe that was not committed. So that's the reason we did that. Okay. It looks like a break. Like we had to go further than that. Give me like three or four more minutes and then we'll move on.
Starting point is 01:04:36 All right, chat? We had to sort of radically accept it and almost take it away from the government. You don't need to do anything with this. We've got this. Don't waste the jury's time. Here's another time that he hit Cassie. Unless you're going to link it to force sex. And that's how it played out at the trial.
Starting point is 01:04:53 in my view. I think the juror is like, okay, we understand all this. Are you going to link this to sex or not? Because if you're not going to link it to sex, it might not be all that relevant. And I think the reason is because we took all that on. And people should note that he was acquitted, not only of the racketeering, he was also acquitted of the sex trafficking. But let me ask you this about him as a client. Many times successful people, wealthy people, people in roles of leadership, when they come to a trial, they kind of think, well, I'm a smart person. I have good judgment. Let me sort of run this case. But it seems that he was content to let his lawyers be lawyers rather than try to be a backseat lawyer himself. Yes, that's very true.
Starting point is 01:05:38 He would say many, many times, I'm just going to get out of my own way. And that was the phrase, I'm going to get out of my own way. And he put a lot of trust in me, and I really appreciated it. And he would say that. He said, I'm going to trust you. I'm going to trust you on this. and I would say you should because I know how to do this. So you have to trust me. Were there any major... Oh, SummerSlam is in Rutherford today?
Starting point is 01:06:02 I should have went. Holy. Oh, I know it was in Rutherford. Actually, Loki, I was supposed to be in Toronto, so whatever. Things in the defense that you changed because of input from your client. Him testifying is always a big one. I feel that during our time back in the U.S.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Attorney's office, the conventional wisdom for defense lawyers was never put your client on the stand. But I feel in the past few years, that's been changing. And despite whatever jury instructions people get about the Fifth Amendment, I feel that juries today sort of expect to hear from defendants. So how much thought did you and or your client give to putting Sean Combs on the stand? We gave it a lot of thought. And we gave it a lot of thought deep into the trial. And it really wasn't until the government put on a former CFO. And the CFO was a great witness for us
Starting point is 01:06:55 and gave us a lot of great background about Sean, about the companies and about racial diversity back when nobody was doing that. And so you look at all the issues that you would want your client to testify to, and you ask yourself, well, do we already have those? And by the end of the government's case, we had already had a lot of them.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Now, we knew on some level that, you know, it's Sean Colmes. The jury is going to want. to hear from Sean Combs, but I think the jury also understood that they can't hold it against them, A, and B, my sense of the jury by the end of the government's case is they got this look to them, like we understand the issues. We got it. I'm not telling you what we're going to do with it, but we got it. We understand this case. So let's get on with it. It's almost Fourth of July. The judge said we're going to be out of here by the Fourth of July. Let's get on with it.
Starting point is 01:07:47 So I don't get the sense that they were sitting on the edge of their seat waiting for Colms to testify. It would have been a fascinating thing, Hattie, but we got everything we needed out of the government's case, so there was really no reason to. And so I'm guessing then that you felt pretty confident your decision to put on a defense case that lasted under an hour, even though the prosecution had been up there for, I don't know, six weeks or something like that? Yeah, we did.
Starting point is 01:08:12 It's because we got great stuff out of the personal assistance. we felt that we had neutralized the witnesses that hurt us, and we realized it wasn't really that much more for us to add. The government called four personal assistants. I thought they were all very valuable to us. I thought that the two escorts that the government called were very valuable to us in terms of the sex trafficking. And so we just didn't need to call any more escorts
Starting point is 01:08:40 or any more employees on our own. Going ahead to your closing statement, It was at times funny and folksy and sarcastic. And it was controversial. Some people hailed it as masterful. Others found it offensive, especially your reference to the Combs-Cassie relationship as a great love story,
Starting point is 01:09:00 which featured violence, as we know. Do you have any regrets about that closing or anything you would take back? Or something you said in the moment where you think, well, if I were to do it all over again, I wouldn't have done it that way? I think my reference to Jaws and needing a large,
Starting point is 01:09:14 role of crime seam tape was probably not necessary. Other than that, no, really no. So let me tell you a little bit about the closing. So the night before the closing, I had nothing written. Zero. He was sarcastic in the closing, basically saying, yeah, y'all got him. This was his closing. Y'all got ditty.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Y'all have finally taken all the baby old off the streets, all the astroglides. Y'all will stop prostitution and basically was making fun of the, the U.S. attorneys basically saying that Ditty is a racketeer and a sex trafficker. It was just like, all y'all have proved is that this guy's a freak. So cool.
Starting point is 01:09:53 All right. If y'all think that this racketeer, guy that deserves life imprisonment, he deserves life imprisonment just because y'all have taken the baby all off the street. And apparently the jury and a lot of people were chuckling. And apparently he got like a stand ovation, or not stand ovation,
Starting point is 01:10:10 but he got applause after he was done. I had written an outline, I had written some stuff, and I read it over, and it wasn't good enough. It was not what you would need for the closing in the Sean Combs trial of the century. It just didn't rise to that level. So this is 7 p.m. I'm summing up in 14 hours, and I literally do not have a note. And my wife says to me, let's go for a walk. Let's take a little walk. And I'm walking and I'm talking to myself.
Starting point is 01:10:36 And I realize, I know what I want to say. And so I wrote down three pages of bullet points on a legal pad, no, in pen, and those are my notes. And what I felt the jury lacked was a story. Like, what is the story of this case? We don't need a PowerPoint. We don't need to see the emails for the 15th time. We don't need to see the video again,
Starting point is 01:10:58 unless you're going to point something out that we haven't noticed. But we want to know the story of this case. Tell us a story. And the way you tell a story is you look at the people you're telling the story to. And so I set it up so that I wouldn't have to be stuck at a point. podium and I got close to the jurors and I told them the story of this case. And I used a little bit of a tester to see where they wanted to go. And it was toward the beginning and I say, you know, the Homeland Security used all this
Starting point is 01:11:29 equipment and they knocked down all the fences and they used a special response team and they destroyed all of this property. But it's worth it because they got the astroglyde. And they all started laughing. the whole jury started laughing. And I realized they want this. They don't want me to be up there
Starting point is 01:11:49 and stayed and you shouldn't believe this witness. They wanted the story. And one of the things that people don't realize about trials and it's the most important part of the trial is you have this shared experience with the jury. You've all gone through the trial together. So it's not just
Starting point is 01:12:06 you talking about the evidence. It's all of you, we had 17 jurors because we had five alternates. at the time. So the 17 jurors and you have gone through this last two months of just craziness. And it's a shared experience that's never been discussed. So if you can do that, all of a sudden, you're like them. You're not other. You're not the lawyer and they're the jury. You have this shared experience that you're all now commenting on. And so there are things that happen during the trial that are funny. There are things that happen during the trial that are emotional. And the way,
Starting point is 01:12:41 you kind of bond with the jury as you talk about those things in that way. Like, you don't talk at them. I'm going to tell you a story of something we all just saw. It's almost like we went on this two-month backpacking trip and now I'm going to tell you a story about all. All right, let me skip a little bit more in then. We're going to go. We're going to move on. Is be with them. My thing is, I am feeling where you are and I am going to tell the story that we all just saw together. This is our story. And almost keep the government that people are not part of our story. Here's our story. Here's the funny things in our story. Here's the poignant things in our story. And once you do that, you win. It's really that simple. If they go with you, if they don't go with
Starting point is 01:13:27 you because there's a well, wait a minute, your client definitely robbed that bank, then you lose anyway. But if you feel that from them, you're going to win. And so I knew that the jury got it. I didn't know what the verdict would be, but I knew the jury got it. And I knew that I was kind of building as I went and that the summation was going the way I wanted. So then tell me, how are you feeling as the jury left to deliberate and how are you feeling during the deliberations? Because they sent out a couple of notes. And I understand that one of the notes might have thrown you and your colleagues on the defense team for a loop, perhaps. So I think what you're talking about, they came back the second day and said they had verdicts on counts two, three, four, and five, but not on count one.
Starting point is 01:14:18 And no one knew what to make of that. Is it bad? Is it good? And we were, I read the press on it. I made the mistake of reading the press on that we looked ashen, we looked shaken, all these things, none of which are all that off. But we didn't know what to think. So the day ends, I go home at three o'clock in the morning. I wake up, which is standard.
Starting point is 01:14:40 I wake up between 1 a.m. and 3 a.m. every day I'm on trial. Wow. Which is not nearly enough sleep for me. And I have this thought. And I sent Tenny Garagos to text. And I said, the verdict is going to be good for us. We have to figure out where's the airplane? Where's his passport?
Starting point is 01:14:56 We're going to make a bail application because they probably convicted him of the prostitution. Oh, wow. And they probably acquitted him of the sex trafficking, which is why they can't reach a decision on the racketeering, because if they had convicted him of the sex trafficking, they would have convicted him of the RICO because now he's a sex trafficker. They're not going to do him some favor on the RICO. And had they acquitted him of the prostitution, they would have acquitted him of the RICO, but they can't reach a decision on the RICO, which means they split.
Starting point is 01:15:27 It hit me with such clarity, like it had to be that. And then, of course, it was. And I also had the feeling that if they couldn't reach a decision on the RICO, So that second day, and they reached decisions on the others, there might be just a couple of holdouts against us, and they'll see fit to acquitima of the Rico. And then I think a half an hour into the third day of deliberation, they did exactly that.
Starting point is 01:15:53 So I needed the dust to settle, and then I think I figured out what was going on. So as you mentioned, the jury came back, and they did convict on two interstate transport prostitution related counts, but they acquitted on the racketeering. They acquitted on the sex trafficking. I think the general consensus about the verdict was in the words of our former colleague Mitch Eppner that this was a major victory for the defense, a major loss for the prosecution. Combs was acquitted on the most serious counts, the counts that could have exposed him to a
Starting point is 01:16:25 life sentence. But let me ask you this. In your post-verdict statement, you praised the jury is wonderful, and you said they got the situation right or right enough. And the right-enough part, I'm guessing, the fact that they did convict your client on these two prostitution-related counts. But speaking very candidly, I think you did have an uphill climb on those in terms of just the text of the statute and the facts, and there were these escorts who were transported, et cetera. You're not going to appeal those convictions, are you? I think we are.
Starting point is 01:16:55 And I'll tell you why. Because Combs has to intend this interstate travels for purposes of prostitution. And why would he think it's prostitution when Cowboys are? which for Angels is alive and well. We can have a cowboy at our house in an hour. It's an ongoing business doing very well, operating in dozens and dozens of locations, more locations every day.
Starting point is 01:17:19 How is he supposed to know that's illegal when it's a thriving business? How is he supposed to know it's illegal to make your own pornography when you could go on YouTube, wherever you porn, whatever. So I have to pretend that I don't know these sides. What I've...
Starting point is 01:17:35 Battyhub.com. And there's entire categories of homemade porn. If someone travel from one state to another to do that, why isn't that a violation of the man? If they were paid something or their travel was paid or there was some compensation. Why would he think that making homemade porn is illegal or that using cowboys from Cowboys for Angels is illegal? And he was... I think this is like really good info. He's convicted of that.
Starting point is 01:18:04 And I think the jury must have reached a conclusion. It was just too much of it. There were too many cowboys and too many porn stars for us to acquit you of this. But if you look at the trial evidence on the record, the government called two of these men. They both said very clearly, I am not a prostitute. They both very clearly said, I do not have sex for money. So if we're looking at the trial evidence, I don't know where the trial evidence shows prostitution. I think that there's this innate notion, well, it must be, right?
Starting point is 01:18:37 But that's not what the trial evidence showed. So we'll have to see what happens. We'll have to see what the sentence is. We'll have to see a lot of things. But it is considering appealing. Your client is acquitted on these major charges. But on the same day, you moved for his release on bail post-verdict. And Judge Subramanian did deny it.
Starting point is 01:18:58 What did that feel like for either you or your client? Was there a kind of whiplash or a bitterer? sweet thing going on because on the one hand, you achieved what was widely regarded as a big win, but on the other hand, at the end of the day, at the end of the trial, your client is going back to MDC. So what Sean said, and it's as good a way to put it as any, is like, we just won the championship and they sold our trophy. And that's kind of what it felt like. We won the championship, and now I'm ready to hoist up the Stanley Cup, and someone drives away with the Stanley Cup, and I never get to touch it. But on a more substantive note, it's a tricky situation, because
Starting point is 01:19:33 as the court rightly observed, the entirety of the Mann Act is a violent crime. But why would being a John be a violent crime? If it's a violent crime, you have to show exceptional circumstances. And I think we are going to go back to the court with a bail application, probably in the next several days, and try to argue that what's exceptional, what's the exceptional circumstance is that a John is being prosecuted under the Man Act. and the purpose of the Mann Act was to prosecute people who make money from the business
Starting point is 01:20:07 really to be held out as how society feels about anything. And I think the same is true here. I think... All right. Okay. All right. All right. All right. Um... Yeah. So,
Starting point is 01:20:26 what I will say is that we do have... By the way, welcome to the stream. I feel like we're getting dittied out Oh my god Did y'all watch this interview? I know the last one Some of y'all call boring But this shit was hilarious
Starting point is 01:20:41 Check this out The two guys who They claim that they had Oh hold on no no Not this not this not this They claim that Diddy Had them do a freakoff They had a like a all-star
Starting point is 01:20:54 freak off competition Oh who could fuck her Listen to this shit This is two sex workers One of them is Daniel Phillips That was talked about Happy to how y'all both from the platform, man. For the people that's not familiar with y'all, introduce yourself to the people.
Starting point is 01:21:06 All right, man. I'm Clayton Howard. I am the gentleman who had the courage to sue Cassie for being part of the conspiracy that Diddy recently beat. And I'm Daniel Phillip. I'm the guy that everybody's been looking for, trying to find out who I am. But, yeah, I was also one of the guys that was subpoenaed to testify against Diddy in the and Cassie trial. I was one of the guys that was, you know, intimate with Cassie.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Out of curiosity, how did both you all meet? We met inside. This thing, he couldn't wait to be like on a platform like this. If they had put him on a stand, he would have took about three months to understand. He got so much to say. Of a diddy freak off, which is a chapter in my book where the two of us had a, how can you? You know what?
Starting point is 01:21:59 We'll just say it for what it is. We had an orgy with Cassie. No homosexual activity involved. Got to say that for the record. Did he called each one of us independently to come meet Cassie? Neither of us were told about the history of each other. But basically, we were brought together for a competition to see who could last the longest to allegedly be her main provider or main guy, whatever she wanted to call it.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Yo, that's funny, though, because he describes it that way art. But to me, I was there. before him and they asked me if it would be okay for them to bring somebody else. I didn't even know whether it was going to be like another guy or whatever, but he shows up. They never mentioned anything to me about a competition, man. Apparently they mentioned to him that we was having some big competition or whatever to see who lasts the longest. But either way, I'm happy that I didn't take that consolation prize.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Let's just say that. So take me through that. that exact day, like what exactly happened? Let me start first? It's just weird, bro. Like, I mean, you can start if you want, man. It's just, it's strange. I'll say that and let you do your thing, bro.
Starting point is 01:23:12 All right, so I get a phone call from Cassie this day. Like, hey, what's up? And you know, like, she's beautiful. She's intelligent. I have been sleeping with her for years at this point. And truthfully, considering the way the situation work, every time I used to see her number come on the phone, it was like, chiching, payday.
Starting point is 01:23:28 So I see her call this day. I'm like, okay, Bandoff, we're going to Jay off today. Cass is calling me. So when I get on the phone, normally when I get on the phone with her, she's like friendly, she's affable, she's inviting. This time, however, she's the same thing, but she throws in, hey, would you mind if another guy was here? Now, at that point, I thought I was the only guy.
Starting point is 01:23:48 So naturally, and I think I told you this, the last interview, I was kind of hurt. Like, who is another person? So she starts explaining to me, and she literally lays it down like this, that she has two guys, and her and, you know, did he want to get these guys together to see who's the best because she's, he doesn't want her to have two guys. He wants her to have one guy. So she literally puts this situation before me kind of making it seem like, you know, you're either going to, you're going to get fired.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Realizing that situation, trying to protect my income stream because I did consider her an income stream at the time, I had to strap up and go in for war, you know? And that's how, when I got there, I came across this brother. So I'll let him take over that we can mingle. Yeah, man. Yo, this is just weird, bro. Like, like, first off, it's weird as to already have another man in the room while you, you know, having sex with a woman. But, like, it's a strange dynamic to have Cassie be as visually, like, stunning and sexy as she is.
Starting point is 01:24:56 And then you, you know, a part of you is like, I really want to go in and do this. But then the other part of you was like, this motherfucker in the corner over here dictating how to do this and how to do that is like really like pulling me in the opposite direction. So you take that and then you add another guy to the mix. And it just gets real strange, man,
Starting point is 01:25:21 especially when once he becomes like active and you fall off and you just sitting there, watching like yo it's just weird bro it's a i don't know how else to explain that man it is weird bro you ever have one of those cars that have a limiter on it like you can't go past a certain speed i mean you bought this because it it goes crazy fast but you got to do a hundred miles on that before it actually opens up and allows you to go all the way that's what it feels like feels like you got a limiter on it and you you can't do your thing bro know what the worst experience though the realization it wasn't even the worst
Starting point is 01:25:59 experience i want to say the eye open experience that's a better thing to say is when i walked into the room and he was in front of her with his penis in his with up in her face i was heartbroken you because that's when the realization that she had other men doing the same thing you know cassie really had these things wrapped around her finger and i was doing to her and she was doing the other men that's when it hit me right there when i saw him and she was loving it like she's there she's all engaged this guy's you know penises in her face Did he's sitting over in the corner. I'm sitting on this couch. I'm sitting on, I think it was a chair there because we was in the bedroom. I'm sitting on the bedroom just drinking because honestly I'm messed up all and I got to get drunk just to continue because literally I'm thinking I'm making love to this beautiful woman for two years and now I see that not only am I doing it, but he's doing it too and he looks like he's having sex with her pretty much the same way I am. So it was it was definitely it was an experience I had to adjust to in order to get through it. Yeah, it's interesting that you said that too, bro, because the one thing that that gets you out of this is Cassie is so relatable, like, like in person, like she's just a down-ass, chill-ass chick.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Like, you know, like, I was just talking to Clay before the interview, man. She used to lay on my lap on the couch, just shooting the shit, talking for like, out. These niggins sound like they call feelings of Cassie, right? I was while Diddy was doing whatever the hell he was doing in another room. and whatnot. And, you know, like, so when you go from feeling like you're building this kind of a friendship, relationship, connection, and she's telling you, you're the only one I'm doing this with. Yeah, you feel a little betrayed, a little butt hurt, bro. When another dude, no, there's no pun intended, but, like, I'm going to pause. When another dude, no, there's no
Starting point is 01:27:55 pun intended, bro, but, like, yeah. I'm going to say that too. You know what I mean? You feel a little bit violated, bro. Like, you know, it sucks. It's not a good feeling, my man. It's not a good feeling at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:08 So can I ask him? Yo, there's no way Cassie's husband, blessed, bless. Cassie's husband is not watching none of this. Can't. Like, you wouldn't. Like, it ruins the fabric of your love for any woman. It makes you look at them as, you know, put like this. Us as men, there's a genuine nature with men.
Starting point is 01:28:26 to have this idea that we go to conquer and we like you know even on a sexual nature like you can go go smut out a bunch of girls but then the woman that you want to have as your own woman and the woman you want to have building a family with and in your house and you're claiming her you're providing for her
Starting point is 01:28:46 you feel she represents you your better have so to speak you never want her to be like the mother girls you never want that right you meet a girl in a club you fuck her in the bathroom Yeah, that's all cool and everything. I'm not saying you can't wipe that girl, but if that's the type of girl that, you know what I mean, like you know she's fucking other dudes.
Starting point is 01:29:03 You fuck her from time to time. That's all good. You're probably going to still treat that woman good. But your girl, you don't want your girl to be doing. None of that type of shit. You know what I mean? So again, it's a different mentality. Something real quick.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Can you say that you was just as disappointed when you saw me as what I saw you? Hell yeah. I hated you, bro. I was like, this motherfucker. Who is this motherfucker fucking? coming on him on my session. Yeah, I didn't like that at all, bro. I ain't like it at all, man.
Starting point is 01:29:31 And, yeah, but after a couple of breaks and shit, we started talking a little something, like, yo, this is crazy, right, and weird and whatnot. And, you know, like, we started shooting this, realize we was cool and whatnot. And, you know, that aggression toward each other, I guess, kind of started, like, dissipating a little bit. So our friendship was built inside of a P. Diddy freak off? Yeah. No, homo.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Paul. That should sound crazy, bro. It's the truth. How long was the sessions? Two days. Two days. By the day and a half, two days. Yo, they used to go in, bro.
Starting point is 01:30:07 You know, it's kind of funny because the session only ended. My brother over here was tired, bro. Like, we had been up like two days. Neither of us was really indulgent in any drugs with them at the time. So we were like regular and they were high off of ecstasy in Mali. So, you know, they could be up two, three days. So me and him may be like a day and a half in. I remember I approached them and I say, yo, bro, listen, it don't got to be no winner here.
Starting point is 01:30:29 We could, both say we're tired and we could split the check. Yeah, they're having a fuck off. I know we know the idea of a freak off, but like they're both fucking Cassie and supposedly there's going to be a winner that's going to be determined by Diddy and Cassie to be the guy who's going to get like, you're going to move from the 12-day contract to the, you're going to go get the two-year contract to fuck Cassie. Okay. What's up, bro? He says, I don't know about you, brother, but I'm good. But check it, dude. Like, yeah, for sure, I definitely had that, that, like, yo, this motherfucker right here,
Starting point is 01:31:06 like, stop talking to me right now. Like, like, I had that, right? But also, I was there already for like, fucking eight hours before you came. Yeah? Like, I was there for like half a day already, bro. So- I didn't even know that. Yeah, dude. Like, and they never said to me about a competition or none of that, bro.
Starting point is 01:31:21 So it's hilarious to me when I hear you like, like saying that, because I'm, I'm I'm like they said that to you, but the thing is obviously they wanted to, they wanted that aggression. They wanted to see us like battling each other and shit like that. And I won't with that. Pause. That's like a sword fight, huh? Man, this was weird anyway, bro.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Some weird old shit, bro. And I just was like, you know what, man? Like, yeah. He's got to put your professional hat on, bro. That's what I did. I looked the other way. It went in. Yeah, that was the first time that I have to say that I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:31:55 At the end of this, most likely I'm getting a bag, so let me just stick with this. But there's some bullshit. And I definitely started second guessing whether or not I was going to entertain that shit again. But then I had a conversation with her again after that encounter. And she was telling me, yeah, no, no, we're not going to be with the other guy anymore. I'm only going to deal with you. And like, you know, like it's the same thing that dude, this was literally methodical, bro. It was structured to a T.
Starting point is 01:32:27 This chick should be in jail. She's a pathological manipulative liar. And considering I'm the person who came out with the lawsuit against her, I don't really care with the public thing. She lied through her teeth. She manipulated him. She manipulated me. She manipulated the punisher. She manipulated every guy she dealt to make us think that we were the only one.
Starting point is 01:32:47 How is she not on trial with Diddy? I'm confused. But you bugging, bro, like that, not bugging, but I mean, like, let me see, she didn't try. to manipulate us to think or only manipulate. She flat out said it to me. I'm gonna speak for myself because I constantly was asking her, yo, am I, I'm your only person that you're doing this with? And she's like, absolutely, we don't really do this like that.
Starting point is 01:33:09 This is not really our thing. You're the only guy that we're doing this with. And then I would give her my STD results all the time because they was constantly trying to get me to have sex without a condom. And so I bought it up. And I was like, yo, if we're going to do this, I'm going to need your STD results. Bro, for months, she kept giving me the runaround.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Like, oh, I had it. I just was so busy. I lost the password. All this shit, I'm giving her my shit. She's not giving me her. But you don't have to worry about it. You're the only one that I'm with outside of my husband. But at this point, man, I already knew who he was off the rip, bro.
Starting point is 01:33:48 The first time, the first encounter that I had with him, he made the mistake of speaking. to me. And, bro, like, yeah, this was, this was my idol grown up, bro. Like, as a businessman, I wanted to be just like this dude. I wanted to, to, you know, have fashion companies and have properties all over the world and, you know, like, start working with people that needed resources, you know, that had less than me. Yeah, it was crazy, man. I used to literally idolize this, dude. I used to walk in Times Square past that. That billboard he had. You remember that billboard?
Starting point is 01:34:26 Sean John joined with the Mohawk every single day. I used to be like, yo, you're going to know me by first and last names. I used to talk to his billboard. You're going to know me by first and last name someday. We're going to do business together. Watch, bro. And what I learned from that is the universe could be funny as hell, man. You better be very specific with the shit that you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Because, God, damn it, this is not what I meant when I said that me and this man was going to be doing business together someday, but it's sure what I got. So Cassie told both of y'all personally that y'all won the competition. She told me, she flatly told me, like, listen, I got two guys. I like you. My husband doesn't want me to have two guys. So listen, you know, you got to come for your spot. She flatly told me basically, and I'm summarizing that you got to for your position.
Starting point is 01:35:17 I thought about it briefly. And, you know, I'm for the money, bro. I jumped up to go handle my business. I just, when I got into the situation, it was the shock I wasn't expected to see her so open and so affectionate with someone the same way she was with me. And from the second I first saw him, I knew he had saw her before this. They were too comfortable together. Let me ask y'all at this, right? Gotta ask, what would y'all do in between time?
Starting point is 01:35:42 Because y'all said that it lasted, you know, two days. So can y'all leave a hotel? Do they bring y'all food? Like, can y'all take breaks? I mean, how does that work? Well, if we were in a hotel, we were probably all of that. But he and I met in Cassie's apartment on 10th Avenue in one of the Trump building. She used to have Diddy had running her an apartment on West End and the Trump buildings over there.
Starting point is 01:36:05 So me and him met in Cassie's apartment. There was no... Wow, whack. Whack? I'm on stream. What? Yo. I'm on stream. I'm on street.
Starting point is 01:36:17 What up? What up? Bro. What's good? What's good. We're gonna do this business? Yo, I'm on stream. Just hit me over this.
Starting point is 01:36:28 You ain't hit me all day. You gonna hit me when I'm on stream? Yeah, I did it, you motherfucker. You don't ask me. You ain't text me, nigga? You're gonna text me, nigga. Alright, well, I'm gonna text you the detail. They're ready.
Starting point is 01:36:38 I'm gonna text to you right now. All right. All right. Room service. There was no water. The only breaks was them going into Cassie's bedroom while he and I sat in the living room and waited for them, right? Yeah. And it wasn't long breaks.
Starting point is 01:36:53 They might make us wait out there like, 10, 15 minutes or something. And this is when me and him got cool. We started talking like, yo, bro, what's up? Ba, blah, blah, blah. But basically, they leave us in the live room. They go in the bedroom, do whatever the hell they're doing. Maybe he's playing with some semen he saved over from somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Who knows? He doesn't say because he didn't get none out of either one of us that day. So maybe he had some reserved from another person who'd been there before us. Who knows? Then they would come back out and we would start again. Because like I told you, the freak-offs was literally the same routine every time you did them. Nah, this is crazy. Having, like, having, like, a group TED talk about Cassie's sex life.
Starting point is 01:37:31 It's no way Cassie's, like, husbands watching this shit, but whatever. Yo, chat, could y'all hear that? Oh, yeah, I can't hear it. There's an insect. Like, you know what, an insect that makes noise all night? You know what them, loud ass joints? It's, there's one of them there. And it's definitely bothering my dogs.
Starting point is 01:37:51 One dog is above me, and another one's over there. And I can tell they're, like, barking. But I can't hear it. Because I'm looking at it. When I'm quiet, I can't hear it. This is how good of a mics I have. They drawn it out. Let me see.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Probably faintly you can hear it, but it's loud as fucking my ear. All right, anyway. Okay, enough to this shit. Enough to this shit. Let me hit you out with a couple topics. Let me hit you out with a couple topics. And, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:19 So, remember the whole thing that I told you out with, you know, mellow bucks and, is it mellow bucks and a metal raps? I'm sorry, Melo Bucks, I believe, is a person who in Chicago was having the release party, and that subsequently got shot up. I got to have to put ear plugs in because I'm just hearing mad noise. It's all good, though.
Starting point is 01:38:39 So Melorax, the chick that used to be engaged, I even know she used to be engaged, MeloRax engaged to Kodat Black. She was engaged to Kodat Black at a time, right? Kodak had announced. Damn, you know what's crazy? I think I posted this. Look. How with you?
Starting point is 01:38:56 Huh? Oh, Kodak had it. He proposed. Oh, wow. Yo, chat, she got out of fire. Gave her a sniper gang chain, right? Made a couple of songs about her. This and third.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Now, I told you, I said, listen, you know, I'm not trying to call this woman any type of whatever. But listen, this is an industry, you know, where a lot of times you'll see a woman with this guy, you'll see her with that guy. A lot of times these women just want to get on in the game, right? Like, you know, they play, whether their vagina, their relationship, or whatever, to their advantage.
Starting point is 01:39:40 And whoever who's hotter, whoever could get them to the next step, they're going to go rock with. Now, I'm not saying she didn't have love for Kodak, but it just is what it is, right? That's why when I saw Kodak and young boy kind of getting into it over her, I'm like, bro, because y'all at least get into it over somebody that y'all are going to be truly in love with than somebody who is just supposedly just for y'all. Because if you're with a girl who, you know, I'm going to be honest with you, like, no disrespect to her. And by the way, she sent me a note through like one of young boys' people after I did the thing. She was like, yo, no, don't sleep on me.
Starting point is 01:40:12 I'm making some good music out here. And by the way, mellow racks, like, listen, with all due respect to you, and I'm going to give you all the credit. Girl, I know what you're doing. You're going to get yours. You get yours. Let them niggas fight over you. Who gives a fuck? You're going to get yours.
Starting point is 01:40:26 You got some songs that I've never listened to your musical before. Even when you invited me to the, you invited me to somebody's concert. I didn't know you made music like that. I've listened to your music now. Your music don't sound that bad. So I get it. You're trying to get on. If niggas want to fight over your pussy, want to fight over you, whatever.
Starting point is 01:40:42 So, you know, I think personally stupid that young boy and Kodak could have any type of beef over mellow racks. Okay. Again, this is not like a girl you knew from way back in the day and then she got in the industry. And then now she's fucking with like her. Like, this is a girl. She's been trying to get on, bro. Okay. Now, what happened is she dropped this song and she was dissing, she was dissing, um, Kodat Black.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Right? Because remember, she just did a couple songs of YB. So Mellow Racks, if you look at her new song, she dropped a song, and it's called Polk the Bear. Actually, almost got a million views in four days. And it doesn't sound that bad. I'm not going to play the whole thing because it probably is copyrighted. I don't know if it is. Anyway. Okay, so she's this in Kodak.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Okay, so she's this in Kodak. How you buying a hose designer shit and leave your family hurt. Going to blame it on a perk. Pussy niggas smoking dirt. She kind of have a little voice. I can't even lie. By the way, she's number 22 on the charts with trending music.
Starting point is 01:41:41 It's a bitch rap on me. With a switch on it. One up if you want it. Taho full of Drake's and Mac 11. Niggins women ain't on healthy shit, but steady cracking menace. Number one in the whole world, I see why niggas acting jealous.
Starting point is 01:41:54 I would hate me too. If I lost off my favorite head, I swear that shit'll face me too. Okay. Why is she called him a crackhead, though? I don't like when women used to do. deal with a nigga and be like you have a small dick you can't fuck or call like disrespect you you were with them it's it's like it's like the epitome of your character
Starting point is 01:42:14 so kodak tried to fuck her cousin okay okay okay okay okay You were scared to hit the yard Cause you was caught up in beef Okay Okay Okay You protected by the fast
Starting point is 01:42:37 Don't be talking about the streets What Wait wait wait How code Protected by the face Don't be talking about the streets You lost your dignity for cash That ain't part of the G
Starting point is 01:42:47 I can't be on here saying too much That boy might caught up police What? I don't know So he said the She said the lines earlier That man Somebody else dead for a nigga you'll never
Starting point is 01:42:57 Kept me on a shelf A hand on the bitch I'm seeing how I be better Say you gonna try me never And that's facts Now I'm lambo, swerp Better bad burpees Okay, so,
Starting point is 01:43:06 Okay, so, uh, basically she said, You're bad too much Dogg-ass boy, you barked too much You ain't get no respect From none of the disease And make me call your blood Okay, okay, okay, So that's the lines I was looking for.
Starting point is 01:43:20 Okay, so Basically she said you went and did a song with a rat Because you went broke flat And you needed your dollars up. Flat needed your dollars. So you went and did a song with a rap because you went flat, you needed your dollars. So you went and did a song with, basically saying that Kodak went to do a song with, and we're assuming it's Takashi 6-9. Takashi 6-9, some people, not some people, I think a lot of people to be like, yo, he, we all know he cooperated.
Starting point is 01:43:46 And it looks like she's kind of sending shots at Kodak, but bringing 6-9 in there to say, you did a song with 6-9, 6-9's a rat, but you did it as a street nigger because you were fucking broke. I think it's kind of like already known. YB was going to do probably the same song. They just like the reality behind that story is that he, they ask some more money. Six-nine, I don't know if I ever told you that a story. Six-nine agreed to pay YB a million dollars.
Starting point is 01:44:16 It was like kind of, okay, cool. They were, they bridged a conversation. And then YB came back and YB, no, it wasn't YB. I think it was his managers. They came back and said, no, we're not doing it for a mill. we're doing it for 2 mil and they just felt like you know i know 6-9 felt like he was kind of getting hold a bit because he was like bro come on like bro like you're not getting a million for a feature i think young boy himself had posted on online saying he'll do a feature for 300k and 6-9 was down
Starting point is 01:44:48 to pay him a million and basically the the million supposedly was being thought about was like oh don't we could do it and then it turned into two million, right? And I forgot what happened there, but I know 6-9 and YB was talking about doing a song because I think YB had said something on when I mean was on Clubhouse and they were talking about doing a song
Starting point is 01:45:08 but communication broke down, they never did a song, okay? Just as I know. However, you know, it's ironic that Mello Rax, who's not rocking YB, says that about Kodak because obviously Kodak took the million dollars right now what happened was at six nine you know he's not going to sit by and just get you know get his back kicked in uh nigger six nine called my phone nigga and he was just like nigga he said
Starting point is 01:45:37 nigga i'm over here doing mine of my own business i'm doing my thing i'm getting ready for blah blah blah you know he's still doing his music thing and he's like i know i didn't hear what i think i heard and i said nigga what did you hear he said nigga did i hear that bit mellow rack say yo um Kodak did a song with a rat. I'm like, yeah, I think that's what that was in the lyrics. I don't even know this detail. He said, act, you know I fucked the dog shit out of her raw, none of it in the face on Steve will do it balcony.
Starting point is 01:46:09 I said, did you? He says, yes. He said, call Steve will do it. I said, I don't care that much. He said, act, I'm commenting on your page. Niggas just repost my comment. And he did just that, and I reposted the comment. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:22 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Where is it at? Where is it at? Where is it at? Where the fuck is the comment at? God damn, I can't find it now. I can't find a comment now. Holy shit. Don't tell me to report the comment. You know, Six and I'm going to keep it real funky. He was going to keep it real funky with that shit.
Starting point is 01:46:40 What do you say, though? What do you say? What do you say? Let me scroll down. Let me scroll down. Oh, right here, right here. Okay. Six-nine says, nah. Saying you did a song with a rat, but that same thing. rat you is sucking off for a hundred dollars and Steve will do its house on the balcony was diabolical Steve if I'm lying I'm flying now I'm to be honest of course believe this but but this is why you know and by the way I'm not even going to shame meller racks listen
Starting point is 01:47:14 meller racks ain't a virgin not gonna call her a whore you call it whatever you want mellerax been doing her thing she's been fucking with this person this person she's been moving around doing her thing okay hey this sounds like something that probably happened for me this just looks crazy when kodak is confronting another man about it's like me it's like me this is a nigga about selina powell right it's like me saying it's like me saying yo you see me with selina power you want to go get with selina powell niggins do just look at me and like bro you're crazy like you're insane like brother you need help so that's the only thing and i love col but Kodak.
Starting point is 01:47:55 I, like, I hope after seeing this, gang, if she's exchanging communications, brother. I know, and just don't fall victim to the 50 cents syndrome. Not because you,
Starting point is 01:48:15 you propose to her. Bro, it's cool. Like, we don't even, like, you never married her. You don't got on kids with her. That's not even a big L, whatever, like you was in love for a little bit. Cool.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Bro, don't crash out over this girl, bro. Please don't crash out over this girl. This girl clearly, like, she's trying to get on she got a little wave and yes like she's gonna do like let me tell when i interviewed christmas rach and i think this is the majority of these women in this industry when i asked chrashon rock about her quote quote quote love for blue face i'm like you got his face tatting right here right here and like jonathan right here you know she says
Starting point is 01:48:47 the majority of the reason i did it wasn't for love she told about a tattoo she says if i made a lot of money with you i tattoo your face even bigger and I really got to believe that most women in this industry because I'm telling you it's like you know maybe these rappers just fall in love quickly these women they're doing it to get a bad they're doing it for opportunities they're doing it to set their career up
Starting point is 01:49:13 so yes surety's doing whatever she got to do she's using y'all rappers she probably got that fire because all y'all keep talking about her and keep entertaining her like put it like this I wouldn't be putting my even, I'm not going to be platforming and making or even looking like you're my main girl when you used to be fucking with some other niggins. But anyway, this is the industry. I get it. So me personally, I don't see what Mello is doing nothing wrong.
Starting point is 01:49:40 I just see Kodak. And obviously, young boy hasn't reacted to this yet. But if young boy reacted to this, I would say young boy looks crazy too. And possibly some people can say, well, young boy does look crazy because why would you put on a chick who's fucking everybody and you give her a. song and do X, Y, and Z for her. Maybe, I don't know. But all I got to say, man, y'all dudes better not be beefing or crashing out over this woman.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Let her do what she want to do. She got a little buzz. She's going to do whatever to keep that buzz afloat, that 15 minutes to turn to an hour. Please, y'all are rappers with millions of dollars. Y'all got to stop crashing out over chicks who clearly would fuck six-nine on the balcony for $100. Come on, bro. Come on.
Starting point is 01:50:21 That's all I'm saying, man. all right um i actually believe six nine do i believe he paid her a hundred dollars no i think mellow is a chick who's been around and she probably was with six nine for a bit um actually supposedly six nights that i saw them together which i'm like what i don't know anyway they fucked who cares who cares right who cares right there's a lot of girls like that in the industry. They're fucking any producer, any engineer, any executive, any blogger that could give them a hype. And it is what it is. Okay. Um, so that's the whole six nine. And by the way, I don't think that, uh, I don't think Codat Black has mentioned anything else about it. But
Starting point is 01:51:05 Kodak's on a hinge behavior has gotten one person, gotten one person to start, you know, kind of getting at him. And that's actually Jack boy. I'm going to get to a Jack Boy said, but Kodak got on live afterwards, and, you know, Kodak was just kind of, you know, I want Kodak to beat the allegations, but, you know, he's not that coherent, so people are going to assume all the negative, you know, assumptions about drugs and everything else because of his lack of, you know, him being coherent. However, I will say that Jack Boy jumped in a conversation and he said this about Kodak. You made 17, 18 bands a month, but nigger felt like I was a rapper.
Starting point is 01:51:51 I'm Kodak. I'm too good to get my CDLs. Bray, yeah, bro, put your pride to the side and started a restaurant, feel. Everybody can't start restaurants. Everybody ain't good with, he's not good with customer service. You got to have customer service for restaurants. Brum smoke crack, bro. Brow got a, nothing, man.
Starting point is 01:52:12 So go grind your CDLs. That shit hey ya driving ya be boy, that boy be driving for four days, boy, that boy never go to sleep, boy. That boy will be driving for four days on God. You better go get your CDLs on a nigga like me. Go wind up sonny ass, boy. Nigel. All right, boy, you see how Jay Z sign the odds, boy? Let me stay out of that shit with a nigga like me.
Starting point is 01:52:38 All right. He'll be like, fuck on fuck. The fuck the fuck the fuck bitch. You made 17, 18 You said Mello went crazy Mellow ad went duff You say Nigger I better get their CDLs
Starting point is 01:52:52 Niggie I better get their CDLs One thing about me When that music shit got hard for me Phil I bowed out the way I ate Let me go get the restaurant Let me go cop and five piece on my own
Starting point is 01:53:08 Plur don't throw me shit I be kicked back in my zone nigga I trap with my bitch I got out y'all way So when shit, go getting tough, go get your CDLs, man. Nothing, man. Go get you, you want to fight. Now you want to tussle with niggas.
Starting point is 01:53:27 Go get your CDLs, man. You say, Mellow Wain crazy. Mellow ass. Okay, so here's the thing. And honestly, yo, Jap Boy, you know, I don't know where your relationship went bad with Kodak, but I got to remind you and anybody else to whom it may concern. Kodak might be a crackhead.
Starting point is 01:53:46 I'm not saying he is, but let's assume he is. If Kodak is a crackhead, if Kodak got one eye, one foot, if he could barely speak, Kodat Black is a legend. He will never have to get a CDL. He'll always be able to command upwards of at least 50 to $60,000, which, by the way, his rate, from what I've heard, is over $150,000 to $200,000 right now if you want to get him for a festival.
Starting point is 01:54:09 But the point blank period conversation is that Kodat Black is not you, Jackboy. Jack Boy, with all due respect, I like you. I think your career, you know, you've had motion and movements at time, but there's a very big difference between you and Kodat Black. Kodat Black is a hitmaker, one of the legends. He could stop making music right now. He could never get another hit. He is a legend.
Starting point is 01:54:34 He could perform off of that for the rest of his life. He will never have to go drive a truck. He don't got to start no restaurant. He could have a bad gambling habit. He could have, again, I'm not, these are things that don't. don't want him to have, but we have to point out the difference. This idea that maybe you think that he's not, you know, maybe mentally not going through the greatest of time or maybe you think he's strung out on drugs, just be very clear.
Starting point is 01:54:58 Kodat Black is a legend. And at the end of the day, he'll always be fine because they'll always be rolling loud to book him. There's always will be fans that want to hear him, even perform old songs from 2017. And unfortunately, that's just not the case with, for example, you know? you know again it's all it's all good to make fun of him for it's lack of sobriety because hang on lie i am concerned about him and his drug use but to try to make his career sound like he need to go get a job we're not talking about the likes of some of these other guys all right and i and who i can't even tell who comes to mind but codat black is not in that boat he's
Starting point is 01:55:41 going to be rich forever, literally and figuratively. And yeah, he's going to be fine. So, again, while I do hope he gets off of drugs and manages money and all his finances and everything properly, I can't sit here and act like Kodak Black career is over with. Kodak is always one hit away. Kodak is one dope album away. Now, I'm not going to lie, I do think Kodak Black, it is, it's been a while since he gave us a really cohesive project that really made us fully.
Starting point is 01:56:11 buy into the stories. I do think he puts out good music. It's just that I feel he's scattered brain and I feel like he's a little bit frustrated with music because he's hitting his head on the ceiling. He doesn't see where the growth could come in. He feels like other people
Starting point is 01:56:27 you know, and this goes back to his B for his conversations or when people thought he was hating on 21 Savage. He feels that other people's get the opportunity that he should get. You know, he felt that he should have did a collab album with Drake before 21 because Drake was fucking with shit before and he felt this and third and this and third i get all that but at the end of the day
Starting point is 01:56:47 nothing's promised and nothing's um you know old to you in music you got to go earn it so you know kodak just got a lot back in you know to me the difference between a kodak black and a in bbba young boy is that even though young boy be sometimes strung out not no more young boy was always focused on the image the music and even if some of the music was missed instead of hits, the fans were still buying into the, you know, the entire movement. The thing with Kodak, people are starting to stop looking at him like a streetnigot and start looking at him like a crack addict. I don't know if he does crack.
Starting point is 01:57:26 But when people start looking at you like you're a patient that needs rehab instead of the person who is a project baby who is a street nigga that's standing on business, that's going to affect, you know, most of these rappers, I always say that Meek Mill's career got killed by his public image. When people stopped looking at you as what you're been promoting and selling, and now they look at you as the Twitter guy, yeah, it hurts you. When people start looking at you as the drug addict, it hurts you. And if Kodak could try to course correct,
Starting point is 01:57:57 I think his shit could be back on the up and up, but I don't know if he will. I think Kodak realizes that no matter what, he could show up to rolling loud 30 minutes late. He could just not even perform the song, hold the mic out there, just dance a little bit. Go yak. Go yak.
Starting point is 01:58:13 He does his thing. And $150,000 still cashes in his bank account. He got all the cars. He got whatever he won in life. And, you know, sometimes accomplishing a lot too quick, starves you of that drive you need to keep focus. And I don't know. Maybe that's what it is or maybe it's drugs.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Let me not try to take that out of the mix. But again, I do care about Kodak. And I do want him to be the very best version of him. himself. I've compared his poetic style and some of the words and some of the, you know, stories he would tell to somebody that is as great as Tupac Choucourt. So, yeah, I don't want him to be the crack fiend, famous next type nigger, with all due respect to famous next. So hopefully, course, corrects. But Jack Boy, if you want to do anything for Kodak, get him to rehab. But getting him to get a CDL, I don't know. A CDL probably going to be.
Starting point is 01:59:12 help you it can't help kodak godd don't look like he could drive a motherfucking thing but a boat okay and he's not broke he won't be anyway okay so that pretty much happens uh donald trump uh was supposedly considering the pardon um diddy and you know i've even thought that ditty's probably gonna get five years i've predicted this that he's going to get five years or four to five years he's already served one but regardless he's going to have four more years to serve with with some of the drug whatever reduces this time by a little bit more. But regardless, he's going to serve time until at least 2028, right? I believe that on Donald Trump's last day in office, Donald Trump will pardon
Starting point is 01:59:57 Diddy. I said that a pardon was out of the question if he got convicted of any sex traffic in charge, which there were two, or actually three, one within the Rico, one of Cassie, specifically, and the escorts associated with her, and one of Jane Doe and the escorts associated with her. He got cleared of all sex trafficking charges and he got cleared of all racketeering charges that included sex trafficking, forced labor, arson, and any type of, you know, very violent stuff that the RICO entailed. The only thing he got convicted of is that the dude got convicted of pain for penis. Like that's essentially what it is. He got convicted of
Starting point is 02:00:37 the transportation of individuals for prostitution, which is just, basically buying penis and traveling them across state lines. Listen, selling pussies like is as old as, is as old as like the Stone Age, man. I mean, that should go back to biblical time. So I think Trump, while, you know, he probably won't say, oh, no, I bought pussy too. I think that's a pardonable offense, since that's the only thing he was convicted of. And I thought that he would do it as a gesture as he exits politics, so to speak, even though Trump and his family, you know, I think one of the Trumps are going to have to step up to carry on the mag of flags somehow,
Starting point is 02:01:19 because I don't think the Trump's done with politics after Donald Trump, you know, eight years in office ends in 2028. But it would have given some goodwill among a lot of communities if he pardoned. And I think that's what he was looking for when he pardoned Kodak, Lil Wayne, and even when he went and got Aesap Rocky. So I, and by the way, he pardoned him young boy. Right. So I think that Diddy was in line to get that. And he would get it on the last day. However, he was asked recently. And there was a conversation and he did an interview.
Starting point is 02:01:52 And people have been thinking, now, you know why this is important? The judge is probably looking at this. They shouldn't. But they're probably looking at this to say, well, if I'm going to sentence this guy, Trump is going to pardon him. Now, it could work both ways. If I'm the judge and I think Trump is going to pardon this guy that I'm going to sentence, I'm going to give him a harsher sentence that people could look at me as tough on crime, right?
Starting point is 02:02:16 It looks like I'm respecting the victims. At least I did everything in my power to keep this guy in jail. So you give him a, like, you know, a harsh sentence because the idea is, well, he going to get out on a pardon anyway, right? If I'm Diti's team, I really don't want this conversation to be up for conversation right now. Let me get sentenced first because, again, they might give you a hard. harsh a sentence. Anyway, did you, well, Trump was asked about it and he spoke about in the interview, and this is what he said in the interview about possibly pardoned Trump. He said, no, I mean, pardon Diddy, he said this. Sean Diddy Combs. Right. Would you consider pardoning him?
Starting point is 02:02:57 Well, he was essentially, I guess, sort of half innocent. I don't know what they did. He's still in jail or something, but he was celebrating a victory, but he seems, I guess it wasn't as good as a victory. probably you know I was very friendly with him I got along with him great and seemed like a nice guy I didn't know him well but when I ran for office he was very hostile he said some not so nice things about you yeah and it's hard you know like you were human beings right it and we don't like to have things cloud our judgment right but when you knew someone and you were fine and then you run for office and he made some terrible statements so i don't know it's it's more difficult it makes it more i'm being honest it makes it more difficult to do but more likely a no for combs it sounds like okay and what about george
Starting point is 02:03:55 santo's uh boy Sean did he Combs right would you consider pardoning him well he was essentially I guess sort of half innocent. I don't know what they're still in jail or something. He was celebrating a victory, but he seems, I guess it wasn't as good as a victory. Probably, you know, I was very friendly with him. I got along with him, great, and it seemed like a nice guy.
Starting point is 02:04:25 I didn't know him well. But when I ran for office, he was very hostile. He said some nuts on that. One thing with Trump, man, he definitely uses the, office of the presidency as a very petty way of saying, listen, the way you treat me, I will treat you. And one thing I do, I don't know if you admire it about him or you think maybe this is a disgusting
Starting point is 02:04:47 way to use the presidency or the office of the presidency. He does favors for favors. Oh, you fuck with me. All right, I'll fuck with you. Okay, cool. Are you helping me out? I'll help you out. And it kind of does that.
Starting point is 02:04:59 You know what I mean? That's what I keep telling you. You know what I mean? It's my boy. small boy right day I mean but you know
Starting point is 02:05:09 again the power of pardoning really rests and relies in the hand of the president of the the United States you know it's solely his decision so he could do it or not
Starting point is 02:05:22 if you ask me I think he will do it but I think right now he's not going to commit to do it right like again the young boy thing I think he was going through some other shit There was some international issues and there was some MAGA stuff that was happening here. He gave a few little nuggets. First of all, he wanted to get a few of his people, you know, pardon.
Starting point is 02:05:44 But he gave a couple other people some little tokens or trinkets. Like he basically gave young boy a pardon. He granted clemency for or not actually not clemency. He commuted the sentence of Larry Hoover on the federal life sentences. Right. However, you know, I don't think he's going to do the ditty. I think he's going to do the ditty thing. It's just not going to do it now. And I think people want him to commit on record to saying yes.
Starting point is 02:06:13 And I think for him, he's showing how petty is. He's like, that niggick did talk shit about me. Now, here's the thing. When he's leaving office, what we've known is that when Trump gets into his business bag, he does a lot of business or he does care about the quote unquote African American or hip hop. consumer base, not necessarily their opinions, but the consumer base, and that's why he's going to throw out a Kodat Black or a Wayne. And I could see him part in Ditty.
Starting point is 02:06:42 I'm going to be honest with you. Not that that's what the majority of black people want. But I could see him doing it, but the end last day, not now, last day. So I think he said the same, the right thing. He shows how petty he is. That nigga used to talk shit about me. I ain't thinking about it right now. I ain't thinking about it.
Starting point is 02:06:56 He used to talk shit about me. I didn't think about it right now. Last day of an office, if homie gets anything past 2028, Trump's pardon him. I think so. I believe so, right? 50 cent who was there to, you know, laugh at that, obviously. He says, yo, can you believe he thought he was getting pardoned? Okay?
Starting point is 02:07:15 He said, no, sir, you are not. You said very nasty things, and he's laughing at it. Now, people kind of got at 50 to say, yo, why are you gloating over this? Like, you're a street dude. Like, why are you happy people are in jail? and he says gloating. He said that feels negative. I simply said Trump's not going to like the nasty things he said.
Starting point is 02:07:34 Okay? So obviously 50 is, I wonder if you want to say enjoying, but he doesn't seem like he's losing any sleep for the idea or the fact that Diddy is not getting out anytime soon and definitely won't be getting out by pardon anytime soon. We will see, my people. We will see. somebody said 50 trolling days are past him
Starting point is 02:07:59 It's going to be a sad day in hip-hop It's tough It's tough Okay Give me a second I want to get into this Cardi B stuff a little bit It feels convoluted though The Cardi B stuff is convoluted
Starting point is 02:08:15 Chat I'll tell y'all The shit that Wack was Whack was hit me about I guess somebody hit him up with a coin and they wanted me to like promote it or something. And they were like, yeah, it was like,
Starting point is 02:08:34 so $150,000, you could just tweet it out. It's got to be up for eight hours. I'm like, fuck don't. Listen, I don't want the SEC and investigate me for nothing. I'm good. You know what I mean? I text a whack. I said, I'm good.
Starting point is 02:08:46 I said, they don't investigate a yachtie. They don't investigate a soldier boy. I'm good. I want no parts with no coins, no pumps and dumps. I'm good, okay? Because you, listen, I don't want the SEC knocking at my door. Yeah, 150 sound good, but I am straight. I don't want no parts.
Starting point is 02:09:03 No, no, no, no, no, no. Leave little little lack into this, man. Leave me out of this one. Leave me out of this one, brother. Leave me out of this one. Didn't Adam do one of them shit? They was baking that, nigga. I'm good.
Starting point is 02:09:15 I'm good. I'm not that money hungry. I'm straight. Listen, the SEC's going to start arresting these things. I'm going to be honest with you. They're going to start getting a little bit more serious about, like, influencers constantly doing these, like, deals where, like, you get $300,000 and you tweet something out.
Starting point is 02:09:30 And then this shit's like viral for whatever, whatever. And the market cap goes to $3, $4 million and everybody sells and a bunch of people lose money. Okay. They're going to make an example out of somebody. I don't want to be a part of that. I love whack, but I'm going to, you know,
Starting point is 02:09:46 anybody, I'm pretty sure somebody came to whack with that idea, you know? But yeah, I'm good. I'm not doing that. If it was something else, like, cool. But once I heard the amount of money, I was like, That's crypto. Before I even heard it, he just told me his crypto.
Starting point is 02:10:01 I was like, once I heard that amount of money, I'm like, I'm good. I'm sure. Anyway. Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's see. Let's see, let's see. Did we cover the Ebro stuff?
Starting point is 02:10:13 We kind of did. We didn't really read all the tweets, but we did, right? Oh. Give me a second. Give me a second. Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. Oh, Tyler, the creator, man. Tyler, the creator, man. Tyler, the creator.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Tyler, I love you. I love you, Tyler. Now on some gay stuff because I think you're gay, but, well, he said he's gay. I don't know if he's actually gay. But I love you as a, you know, an artist. I got to tell you this, man. And this is my opinion. I think you're pandering when you say this.
Starting point is 02:10:49 So Tyler, the creator, he did an interview. And in his interview, he said that, um, You know, I think they asked him that was like, he was talking about why he doesn't fly private jets. And I thought it was the biggest crock of bullshit ever, right? If you give a nigga little wop, bop, bop, like, nigger, like, niggins. They're like, even one way is 40, right? Like, it's like 40. And that's if you got the hookup.
Starting point is 02:11:13 That's if you give a nigga little wop, bop, bop, and like take a picture for his kids and sign something. Like, that's the hookup, right, nigga. Okay. So he's basically talking about why he doesn't fly private. private jets, right? Jacked on. Listen, convenience, nigger. That is, money is awesome for convenience.
Starting point is 02:11:33 Yeah, it is. Number best in. Like, for real, like, mm, mm, no, nigger. Can you, wait, you still, are you still, you still drop, dropping, jump on a commercial flight first class? Yeah. You're still commercial. Listen, I'm not listening. Listen, I, I, you're not wasting your money on PJs.
Starting point is 02:11:48 Listen, granted, sometimes I'm grateful enough to experience taking a private plane with me and With LeBron and Math. Yes. By the way, I hitchhiked that. No, literally. Like, these niggas is going somewhere and I was with Math. He was like, oh, we're going too if you need a ride. And I'm like, what?
Starting point is 02:12:03 He was like, yeah, me and Brian are going to play and we need a ride. I'm like, yeah, nigga. That's why I rapped about it because I was like, oh, I'm at the point where I'm hitchhiking. But, granted, sometimes, like, I'll take a plane jet. I try not to pay for that bitch. Like, I'm not. One thing Tyler's not about to do is go broke taking them planes. I will hop on that.
Starting point is 02:12:25 So people can walk on and they will see you in Delta 1. Bro, I would, no. Actually, I don't want to kick it there. Like, what time the plane leaving, 12? Yeah. I am there at 1151.
Starting point is 02:12:35 Boom. And they're on the plane off. You will see me on that motherfucker listening to music sucking a cookie down, boy. Like, I am not. No. I mean, you don't, I remember looking at all the niggas from Atlanta, I know.
Starting point is 02:12:51 And every time they post these niggas on a jet, And I'm like, how much money are these niggas getting? Nigger planes are not cheap, nigga? You're like, if you have to pay for a flight, what do you end up dropping? Bro, I don't even want to say that shit's crazy. The number hurts your brain to even say it. Like, nigga, planes are expensive. Even one way is 40, right?
Starting point is 02:13:09 Like, it's like 40. That's crazy. That's if you got the hookup. That's if you give a nigga a little wop, bop, bop. I'm like, take a picture for his kids and sign something. Like, that's the hookup part, nigga. That shit is not cheap. I thought if it was already going that way, you could get it.
Starting point is 02:13:21 Like, if it had to go back. Already going that way. Like, you know how that sometimes they have to, like, oh, we have to be in LA. No, they be finessey niggas, bro. I can't. I think the coolest thing. I think was it T. Payne who was just like, you will see me here in first class. I am never spending my money on private justice.
Starting point is 02:13:35 He was like, I'm trying to stay rich. Yeah, no, for sure. I'm not there yet. Tyler, we love you, man, but I want you to just stop capping, my brother. Please, man. I hate one of y'all rappers who are, like, getting, like, an abundance. You see, y'all will say that, but y'all don't. don't say how much I get for a show. Because of course, to a regular person, it sounds incredibly
Starting point is 02:13:58 wild that you're paying $40,000 to go fly somewhere, right? But you guys have a hectic schedule. You guys are traveling. I want to make this make sense to you. And I want to show you how rappers pander to the regular consumer. I'm not saying that you should just want to spend your money frivolously on private jets. But I want to tell you and I want to have y'all make an educated decision, rappers won't tell you this okay of course if you're not if you don't have nothing going on and you're flying private and you're just wasting your money and you're going somewhere and you're spending 60,000 dollars either for a round trip or maybe like well if you're going to l.A. from Teterboro so that's like new york to to L.A. you're going to spend for a 10 person jet you're
Starting point is 02:14:43 going to spend about like 60 to 70,000 to 70,000 per leg so you're going to spend $120,000 to fly there and fly back. Now of course if you're going there to do a gig for 20, 30,000, you're an idiot, right? Like, you're clearly an idiot, right? You know, now here's the thing. Everything about private jet is, of course, it's luxury, but it's also about making sense, right? Tile the Creator, and this is why I said,
Starting point is 02:15:05 like, I think he's pandering and he's capping, and I wish he would tell the whole story because it would make more sense. So Tile the Creator has an entire team. When he's performing, and when he's been on tour, he's traveling with 20 people. He's not just traveling alone. He's not just him.
Starting point is 02:15:22 He's not just showing up with his DJ. And one security. Got assistance, stylist. He got all type of wardrobe people. He got stage people. He got a lot of people. These guys are entire companies. Okay?
Starting point is 02:15:36 So let's actually just see if this would make sense. And this is why I said he's capping. Okay? Because I know some of these things for a fact and I know the behind the scenes. And I get it. Listen, I'm not here to encourage spending money frivolously. but when rappers get on here to front, they're actually trying to just placate to y'all
Starting point is 02:15:55 and act like y'all are them. So let me actually give you a little bit of his business, right? And you tell me if, hmm, let me, you tell me if this makes sense. Okay. So, and everything I'm telling you is a motherfucking true
Starting point is 02:16:08 and acts, and I wish Tyler will come out or he could show the receipts if I'm lying. So let's just say, let's just say. And I'm going to give you real numbers because when they say these numbers, you're like, oh, my God. And it is so much money. Tile of the creator, ACL Fest, 2024.
Starting point is 02:16:30 Okay. Let's look up to line up. Line up. Here we go. Can we find the flyer? Here we go. Okay. So Tile of the creator was actually booked to do ACL Fest.
Starting point is 02:16:50 Here we go. In 2024. Now, the reason why I'm saying this, I'm going to give these details. I know some of this is proprietary. Don't ask me how I know. But I'm giving these details because when y'all sit there and you act like y'all cheap and y'all could only afford a $1,500 flight, when really you're traveling with 20 to 30 people, you have this big operation.
Starting point is 02:17:12 It would make sense for you to fly private. Tyler the Creator did this Austin City Limits Music Festival. It's two weekends. You see one weekend here? You see another weekend here. You got paid $4 million for each. each weekend, $8 million. So you're telling me that you can't afford a $100,000 flight when you're flying 30 people
Starting point is 02:17:30 with you? Come on, bro. Stop it. This is like cap to me. When rappers say this, we know the rappers who shouldn't be flying private. Tyler knows what I'm saying. It's true. You got paid $4 million for one weekend.
Starting point is 02:17:43 You got paid $4 million for the other weekend. You got paid $8 million in two weekends. Yes, $100,000, which might be $100,000, it would be like $60,000. $60,000 or maybe, let's see $1,000. Let's say, call it 100,000. $100,000 is a lot of money for a flight. Yes, but you're flying with so many people. You're an entire operation.
Starting point is 02:18:01 You're an entire operation. Like, I get it. You want to appeal. Like, Tyler, you got to tell. When y'all is saying this stuff about these private flights, you should tell these people how much you're making for a festival appearance. Travis Scott got $8 million for the last Coachella was at. Like, these guys are not getting pennies and peanuts.
Starting point is 02:18:25 Like these guys are getting paid like they're getting their bread butter on both sides So again, I'm not saying I'm not saying these guys should frivolously spend their money I'm telling you why people do fly private like Beyonce's not getting on American Airlines Why Beyonce travels with a hundred people there's gonna be the people who drive the trucks She has a whole glam team she has personal assistance She has wardrobe people there She has hair, makeup, everybody, family, this and third. Come on, it makes sense.
Starting point is 02:19:02 Beyonce's getting like damn near $10 million a show. I know these numbers sound exorbitant to you because, of course, a private jet amount sounds exorbitant. You're right. But when you realize that Tyler the Creator gets $4 million per weekend, and I don't even, I've never heard of this, I've never heard of this, this fucking concert until about three weeks ago. I found it about this concert three weeks ago,
Starting point is 02:19:24 got everybody's what they got paid and I'm like alright let me look at how much they got paid Tyler created got four million dollars per per weekend oh my god Jesus Christ these things are they're loving it I got some other prices recently it's been good
Starting point is 02:19:45 gonna get in half a million dollars for a festival I'm like what the fuck these guys are really getting it so anyway I'm not and this is not about gun this is about Tyler I'm like oh Tyler please just stop the cat brother Tyler you're getting paid multi million dollars to do a festival I'm gonna be honest with you as a businessman and a guy who's an entire company
Starting point is 02:20:09 is probably in your best interest to not be waiting for delays, pilot mishaps, plane mishaps, or schedule airport, air control delays because you can't get to the festival that you're headlining for $4 million for an hour for two weekends.
Starting point is 02:20:28 So $8 million for two hours. Brother, not everybody should be on a private jet, but you should be with your entire team. That would probably make sense more than buying 30 first class flights. 31st class flights, probably $1,000 to $2,000. It ends up being $60,000. The comfort and luxury, you pay a little luxury tax 30% more.
Starting point is 02:20:50 Yes, it does make sense, brother. Sorry. Okay? But I get it. To appeal to the audience, the audience doesn't like when people talk about how rich they are. You're going to act like you're not getting paid millions per show. and by the have no problem with Todd the Creight, I like him. But you're going to act like you don't get paid multi-milliones per show,
Starting point is 02:21:13 and you're going to act like you're the regular man. You're not the regular man. But there are certain rappers who are living beyond their means. Those rappers should stop. You, sir, should operate in the most systematic method. I'm about to fuck up that word. Systematic way to make your business. And you're with 30 people, bro.
Starting point is 02:21:39 Like these guys, it's not like these guys are showing up like, you know, DJ, play that song. Like these guys have a whole set list They have a whole thing bro Like these guys are great performers Like Tyler the creator is actually one of the From what I haven't Did I see him? I didn't get to see him
Starting point is 02:21:51 I was supposed to see him one time He had invited me I didn't get to see him Um He's one of the best performers He's one of the best performers What what concert is this I think he's the only black person on his
Starting point is 02:22:02 Lot up Tile the creator Yeah he's the only black person I see on here Who these other niggas Carrie Leon Nora Jones What the fuck Oh Tyler Tyler Black.
Starting point is 02:22:17 Warville Peck. Who are these people, man? Jesus Christ. I heard Big X of Plug was getting some serious bang, too. Big X of Plug is running it up. I might talk about Big X a Plug later on because I do think Big X2 Plug is one of the only artist that is still, he's breaking through the noise.
Starting point is 02:22:46 Okay? Big X the Plug is breaking through the noise. I think these days it's so hard for artists to bring us. break through the noise. They're doing very different and sometimes goofy things to try to break through the noise. They're streaming. They're doing that. They're doing this. And genuinely and organically, Big X the plug, not a looker. It's a big fat, greasy looking dude. No disrespect to him. That's from Texas. But his music is so good. Like with him, everybody I've spoken to, they love his music. And it's one of those, like, I think what I'm realizing, and y'all got to tell me, why do you think Big X the
Starting point is 02:23:20 plug. When I looked at the charts, and we could probably look at it now. He's probably going to be one of the, I don't know if he still has a song on the Billboard charts, but I remember we had looked at at one point. He was one of the only artists that still had a song that was surviving on that charts. And then you have to think about why. Why is big
Starting point is 02:23:36 extra plug having so much success? Look, he's at 27. Why? His music is so good. He has a message to it. He's using these really dope samples. Like, musically, sonically, everything is great. There's, he's he's saying something and you get to realize so much of music now because i think what happened
Starting point is 02:23:56 and i'm not blaming cardy but music is turned into fuck what you're saying fuck what you mean it's about the feeling oh this is the turn-up shit this is the yo we just getting high shit this like it's just about i remember yadi specifically was trying to explain to me that the allure a certain type of music and he said to me act it's these days you just want to capture you just want to capture the feeling in the song it's not about what you say it's the feeling if you could capture the feeling that's what people want and to certain extent that's what they do however that music doesn't last like it comes and goes it's like the feeling literally comes and goes with big extra plug he's one of the only hip-hop artists he's actually breaking through you're gonna see consistently by the way
Starting point is 02:24:41 they're not like pushing them down our throats pause they're not doing a doy to us like but it's music you're gonna see it's gonna be on the charts it's gonna you're gonna hear it more than more than normal. And I have to say, you have to look at this guy's music. His music is very, it's different. It's different. I've noticed I go back to his album. I play his album and I'll listen to certain songs or certain songs might come up on my Spotify or whatever. And then it's, it always gets me to play it back again and I'm listening to him. I'm listening to what he says. You know, Russ, remember we went through the whole thing where Russ is saying, You know, listen, man, yo, we don't give a fuck what people say no more.
Starting point is 02:25:20 Or not we. But he was saying that people don't care about what you say anymore. With Big X a plug, I'm actually listening to the nigga, and I really do care what the nigga has to say. You know? And I think that was like, that's like a difference between him and most musicians. If I ask you who are the top five rappers right now, you probably wouldn't name Big X a plug. Yet, if we talk about a nigger who's had a song on the billboard charts, he's been one of the most
Starting point is 02:25:45 successful artists this year. honestly there's something different about his music now again i was just thinking about it i'm like there's something here let me let me what's the take here and you know obviously that that's my job where i try to figure i'm trying to figure things out like i could put it in a conversational aspect here but why is big ex to plug the only artist like little baby dropped to an album with all due respect to him we haven't talked about it since then nothing broke through there's nothing that we need to talk about why he probably makes and actually not probably he does make music for for the club in that moment hot for two months and then we move on to the next hot
Starting point is 02:26:22 thing trendy super trendy usually works but you with any trend the trend gets old trendy you move on and anytime you hear that song afterwards it reminds you of the time it was trendy but you don't but it's not cool anymore when you play later you never want to play big extra plug i'm telling you his music is different very different am i tripping tell me if i'm tripping i'm tripping I could be tripping. I could be like, nah, I can you tripping, man.
Starting point is 02:26:50 You're tripping, you're tripping, am I? Give me a second, I'm loading up YouTube here that I could look at what y'all was saying. I've really been enjoying his music, man.
Starting point is 02:27:03 Can't have a lot of y'all. But also, I'm watching his music succeed. It's like, Big X the plug is giving me, and maybe it's a fat nigger shit, because it's the same thing with Rod Wave's music
Starting point is 02:27:16 when he first came out. When Rod Wave came out, there was a bunch of hot songs, but those songs never lasted. Rod Waves music lasted. And that's why Rod Waves doing all these arenas. Rod Waves' music, it was just something more to Rod Waves' music that just had some more soul, some more meaning,
Starting point is 02:27:34 some more substance that you could latch on to, that you didn't only play it when it just came out because it was the hot thing to do. You would constantly go back to it and you would constantly go back to his catalog. I don't know what it is. There's a lot of artists that's in hip-hop that they are, I don't want to call them fly-by-night artists, I don't want to disrespect them,
Starting point is 02:27:56 but their music is just simply trendy, and I think what's missing in music, there isn't the substance to get you to go back to it. Like, you ever play a song from three years ago, right? And you're, like, you start playing it for the next, like, three weeks, and it's almost like it's new again to you, but it's because it meant something. Like, a lot of these songs now, it's like,
Starting point is 02:28:19 you hear him once you heard it four million times already like it just doesn't matter and I kind of want to say it's about having some soul to it I was even thinking about I'm like maybe it's the sonics like you know I've listened to some of the
Starting point is 02:28:36 big X of plug stuff he got the samples and some of those you know some of those sample film music kind of evokes a different energy Rod Wave does it too like some of those sam it evokes like a different type of fit maybe that's what it is but these guys are also saying some shit
Starting point is 02:28:51 regardless even if you disagree with me the question i'm asking y'all and i want y'all to answer it and i would love for this conversation to continue is why is a lot of the music i would go to say about 80% of mainstream music in hip-hop just it's not connected and what i mean not connect i'm not saying there aren't hits it's just not it's not breaking through the noise which means other than those two to three weeks that is being heavily promoted by the label or the artist. Nobody cares. Why isn't music not breaking through?
Starting point is 02:29:27 Is the songs not hot enough? I think they're just not saying nothing and I think that there's no soul to it. I think hip-hop has to... I don't know. Trying to figure it out again. And so much, this is why niggas love Kodak. I think this is why Niggas love vintage Kodak.
Starting point is 02:29:43 Vintage Kodak, there was like this poetic, definitely a message in it. Shit, even young boy, there's this like pain and hurt where people are always going to identify with shit even Drake. I mean, the idea of having like these, this introspective, um, fill music that, that bottles of pain,
Starting point is 02:30:01 hurt or, you know, honesty, that's always going to last. A lot of this other stuff just doesn't last. You think they're pushing, um, big eggs to plug hard?
Starting point is 02:30:13 They are pushing big eggs to plug, but I think it's because his music is, they're not just pushing him because he's some fat black Negro from Texas. They're pushing him because his music genuinely is already connected and breaking through the noise. The idea and the question here is, how do you break through the noise? Tracy says, well, Kendrick's music's breaking through. I'll give you that too.
Starting point is 02:30:41 I'll give you that too. Again, this is not an anti-Kendrick or pro-Kendrick thing. Yeah, I think some of Kendrick's music does break through the noise. Absolutely, I'll give you that too. But here's the point. I think I'm talking about the rest of hip-hop. I'm not talking about it necessarily Drake's. I'm not talking.
Starting point is 02:30:54 The four artists I'm taking out of this is Drake, Rod Wave, Big X, the plug. Kendrick. I'll take them out of it, right? Obviously, there's much more. People would have, I'm just taking them out because we just mentioned them. I'm talking about the regular, you know, run-of-the-mill artists, like a lot of these guys who I think we haven't even seen for a while. And sometimes they have tried to drop in. We just be like, what? Because it's like the microwave. It came and it went. Raw rap now says it sounds like time was put into it. Studio quality. Good lyrics production on point. No gimmicks or audit to.
Starting point is 02:31:28 Maybe that's what it is, but there's some chat. I think we're going to. going to have to have that conversation because of course you know i've taken the stance that hey you know i think the battle kind of like suck the life out of hip hop and other music but there's always going to be a future future is always going to come back with a song like my little demon he's always going to have a hot song he's future is always going to be future he's a hitmaker he's always going to have one right baby's going to catch one from time to time not saying these guys are are kind of like constance now i'm talking about like these other artists there's like so many other artists in the mix And it's like, like, once the last time you've heard a song,
Starting point is 02:32:09 you're like, yeah, I'm going to be bumping this like for a really long time. Or are you like, well, everybody bumping it now. I'm bumping it now. But when the next hot shit come out, I'm bumping that. Somebody says it's just saturation. Maybe it is. Somebody says, the clips album. So do you guys think the clips album?
Starting point is 02:32:32 Again, remember the, you know, again, I don't want down no artists. This is not a segment to down artists. This segment is to talk. about the state of hip-hop music. Breaking through the noise. That's a proverbial term. Breaking through the noise, right? Yeah, if future drops a record that everybody's dancing to in the club for the next two months, yeah, that's hot.
Starting point is 02:32:55 But does it break through the noise of, oh, everybody just needs something trendy? Is this something that people are going to be really invested in and really give a fuck about? I don't know. Somebody said, Thug is scared of drop. I think Thug is in an interesting position. I think the longer he takes the drop, he has to come with a perfect album, and it's going to be tough.
Starting point is 02:33:24 All right. Somebody said, I don't think people give a fuck about hip-hop no more, honestly. That's not true. The music still dominates everything. Like, here's the thing. The idea that people don't give a fuck about music is a fallacy.
Starting point is 02:33:41 Half of our lives revolve around music. When you're on the train, when you're in the car, driving to work, you're going to be listening to music. Maybe you don't focus on that much, but it's part of life. It's something that you don't remove. Now, granted, I have said over time, I think music and podcasts have fought for the listeners' attention.
Starting point is 02:33:58 Like, for example, I think a lot of people on Twitch, they rather just hear their streamer talk to them than listen to a bunch of music, right? So if we're thinking about competing for their attention, yeah, there's competition there. But music is definitely, it's tied into people's lifestyle. going to the club any type of celebration music is just coupled with that so you can't really say
Starting point is 02:34:24 people just don't give a fuck about music anymore I get what you're trying to say people don't give a fuck about hip-hop music well what music do they care about that you're going to say ordinary by Alex Warren maybe maybe but I don't listen to it it's interesting man I think we're looking for more music that
Starting point is 02:34:45 more music that breaks through the noise. By the way, this burning blue song by Mariah of the science has been going crazy, huh? This should have been on the charts forever. 12 weeks on the charts? Damn. Okay, good for her. Good for her.
Starting point is 02:35:13 All right. Interesting. Interesting. Hopefully we keep that conversation going on. By the way, um, yo, what's the dirt, man? What's the dirt? I want to go, you know, not going to drink y'all to death.
Starting point is 02:35:27 Don't worry. Calm it down. Calm it down. Simmer down. I love y'all. I know it's a Saturday night and I, by the way, I appreciate every single one of you guys for spending any moment, especially your weekend with me. Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate it. You guys can be with anybody else and anywhere else. So if you're here, I appreciate you. Okay. So, you know, I'm going to be honest. I haven't hit Drake about, I think I told you guys the last time I hit Drake about some shit. Like I'm trying, I'm trying to not be so much the insider for this new. drop and be a fan. And I'm going to be honest with you. I think it's going good.
Starting point is 02:36:06 Why? Because Drake's putting some effort into it so I could genuinely feel confused. I could have questions. And I'm this time around not relying on the idea that I have a relationship with him to be like, yo, so you tell me what I'm supposed to get from this, right? Instead, I'm actually being a fan, which is actually good. The Iceman episodes, I thought the first one was good. the second one I was like a little bit disappointed
Starting point is 02:36:33 even though I guess that was a preview to which one and I've been really trying to figure out it feels like Drake is trying to tell us the story there's constantly a theme he's wearing the same clothes he's there's a bunch of things that looks like he's filmed that's supposed to carry on a plot don't know what he's trying to say we see him working in an ice factory
Starting point is 02:36:53 that that's like the ice element but we see Pinocchio we see him in these vintage spots obviously we now know he was in Manchester that was because he was was Lincoln with Central C, but we also saw him in Toronto. What is really the theme behind this album? Shout to my man, What's the Dirt? He did a pretty good explanation of, you know, little tidbits that he took away from it. And, you know, this is 25 minutes.
Starting point is 02:37:16 We're not going to play the whole thing, but we should probably play a little bit of it, if you guys didn't know. And again, we are in the age of, I think artists are realized. The top tier artists is that fans want to feel challenged. They want Easter eggs and shit like that And I think Drake might be appealing to that So let's listen to a little bit of what All right guys so 20 days ago Drake dropped a stream
Starting point is 02:37:38 titled Ice Man episode one Which is something that we did break down on the channel Now a lot of us assume that this would be a series of streams And that turned out to be 100% correct Because on July 24th at 9 p.m. Eastern Drake dropped episode 2 It's not easy to predict what he's doing with this rollout Like where this is going
Starting point is 02:37:59 So Drake is currently touring Europe right now and when I looked at his schedule I was really puzzled as to how he would even find a time to film the next Iceman episode. Everything that he's been doing takes an extreme amount of effort and time and the fact that they're pulling things off like this on his day off between shows is really a testament to just how hard this team is working. It really seems like he's constantly working. I don't even know when he sleeps. The first thing that we see is a black screen with nothing on it and we hear the voice of an honest. no man. What's going on, man? It's been like three weeks since they found your truck. Shed is empty. No one can find you. You're not picking up. Everybody's looking for you, bro. This is going
Starting point is 02:38:42 to be a problem. I don't know who this man is, but it is a unique recording, as I can't find a single piece of media, a movie, or any audio that matches this quote. The man says that a truck was found three weeks ago, and this aligns great with the Iceman episode one drop, as we had Drake driving the delivery vehicle 19 days prior, which is pretty much three weeks. It's for that reason where I believe the voicemail from this man really acts as a narrative bridge to tie the two episodes together. So he ends off episode one in the truck. Now it's three weeks later.
Starting point is 02:39:18 So Drake is really building on this character arc and make no mistake there is a story being told across these episodes. It's insanely cryptic, all of it. My theory on the voicemail is I believe the man leaving the message and what he's saying could be tied to Drake turning his back on UMG. As you know, Drake is currently in a legal war with the label and after Not Like Us dropped, it's highly likely that he completely cut off communication with the label. Knowing who Drake is and what he meant to UMG, Drake going ghost, probably made them pretty nervous. While all this is going on, Drake is quietly playing. planning this lawsuit and the label had no idea what was about to hit them.
Starting point is 02:40:03 They probably tried to get in contact with Drake for a while and he didn't respond. The man on the call sounds irritated and almost panicked. He's saying nobody can get a hold of you. This is going to be a problem and you got to keep in mind, Drake acted as the label Superman for 15 years. A lot of the features and favors that he was doing were for artists under UMG. We're talking about a lot, a lot of money. money. This is big business. Now all of a sudden, artists like DJ Khalid, who is under UMG,
Starting point is 02:40:35 isn't getting a feature from Drake anymore, and that was literally the entire rollout for his album. The man had to cancel it because of it. This guy's got two Drake songs on it, okay, too. I'm curious to know how many other artists from UMG that he's shutting the door on. Drake's first musical release after the beef was on June 4th with Wakwan Dilila, a complete spoof parody track. and at the time, most of us were wondering what the fuck Drake was doing because this seemed to be the last type of track to drop directly after his beef with Kendrick. However, it's with this record where I believe he was simply trolling UMG.
Starting point is 02:41:13 I think Wakwan Delilah double date me if you like me. I think Wakwan Delilah was the first time they heard Drake's voice after the beef. Like this is how they heard from him. Shortly after the beef, UMG dropped two pre-recorded Kamilla Cabella. tracks with Drake that they already had in the stash. Drake then leaked a bunch of his own music on the plot to his Instagram, clearly without UMG's approval, since they flagged the post and brushed the songs to streaming. He followed that up with a full collab album with Party Next Door, who signed OVO, not UMG. The project dropped under Santa Ana, which was Sony,
Starting point is 02:41:52 limiting UMG's profits. From there, Drake did a Spanish feature with Chino Paxe, on another artist signed by Drake for one album, and a new collab with Smiley, another one of his artist. Even when you look at the credits on the Party Next Door project, there isn't a single UMG artist, it has mostly independent Canadian producers, and there's no UMG in sight. And to me, this is what Iceman really means. It is all this. When Pusha T claimed that UMG stopped the Kendrick verse on the Clips album, I believe them, because I think they didn't want to piss Drake.
Starting point is 02:42:28 off even more. It's pretty obvious. That's what Anthony Celeste told me. It was like UMG tried to salvage the relationship. This is before the lawsuit. And they were just saying, yo, Drake is upset. We don't want to piss them off anymore. Let's try to fix it. Okay. Obviously they had high hopes of patching things up with Drake, but I can almost guarantee that that's never going to happen. Just take a look at the artist that he took out at Wireless festival. Lauren Hill, look into her history on how she feels about record labels. She is someone that had deep, ongoing issues with Sony and Ruff House. She hated it, she walked away, and there are a lot of
Starting point is 02:43:10 theories for what exactly happened with her and the industry. Bryson Tiller, under Sony, Lotto, Sony. Vanessa Carlton, this young girl was supposed to be a superstar, and it was with the exact same record that she played with Drake at Wireless, a thousand miles, that got to be a superstar. her signed under UMG. Coming into her second album, she hated working with this label. She had zero creative control that controlled her entire life. She absolutely hated it. And industry chewed her up and spit her out and she left in 2005. My dream came true. I got this record deal. I thought it was going to, you know, it was going to be this amazing situation. And at the end of the day, I was in a really bad situation
Starting point is 02:43:57 with the people that I was working with. Make her boobs bigger, make her butt higher. There was a lot of weirdness. It's a lot of possessiveness that was happening. Jay Huss independently signed, 21 Savage, Sony, Mario, another artist that was used and abused by the system who had such little creative freedom. He walked away from the label in 2015 and went independent.
Starting point is 02:44:21 Well, you said that you had to leave 600 songs behind when you were first. Oh yeah, yeah. I left, there was a lot of songs that they had. I can't remember the exact number, but yeah. A lot of songs. Bobby Valentino, another artist who was under UMG that voiced his frustrations with album delays and less expected sales, he was dropped in 2008 and went independent. Then you go get a label situation, and then here comes the label telling you what producers to work with, what your sound is.
Starting point is 02:44:49 That's an interesting take by What's a Dirt, right? I'm not going to lie. I was thinking I'm like, yo, Drake been trying to stay away from these U.S. art. man like he ain't been fucking these niggas like that bro and and and to me i was looking at him saying the whole uk rappers or the best rappers in the world i'm like damn he got something against like some of these niggas who probably didn't stand up for him but i don't know maybe it's one of those things where drake is like you i'm done doing favors for niggas maybe and then when it doesn't have success you're gonna drop me it's like oh well it didn't work peace sexy red not what
Starting point is 02:45:28 UMG. She's with Gamma. Independent. Independent. Burnaboy. Warner. Skepta. Independent. Central C. Sony. Vibes Cartel. Independent. Dave. Popcam. Warner. Remba. Was signed to a label called Maven. And in 2024, that label was purchased by UMG. Just two months after UMG made the purchase, he went into a Twitter rant and said the following. Shakes my head the fuck is this. Labels get creative. Stop trying to clone No new music. Sorry. I'm too big for fake PR. Bye. He completely removed the label information from his Instagram and all the socials. Like industry insiders are saying he left. It's not confirmed, but it's obvious he's not happy.
Starting point is 02:46:12 Every single guest at wireless has either absolutely zero ties to UMG whatsoever or they worked for UMG in the past, got taken advantage of, had a terrible experience causing them to leave, or they got dropped and discarded like they were nothing. Not only does it seem like Drake is not collaborating with anyone under UMG's umbrella musically, but when it comes to UMG pulling in profit from artist's show money, he seems to be making a statement with this also. Yeah, sorry, my delivery days are done. I did it for 15 years.
Starting point is 02:46:46 Here you go, take the keys. The truck's empty. Yeah, I wonder, that's interesting. That would be an interesting play if Drake has, like you know what y'all really co-signed a nigger aiming for the jugular when i've held this label in terms of urban music afloat i've given every artist a feature i've been the thing that's given them the stimulus package to generate revenue i've generated revenue by dropping consistently over and over again and this is how y'all repay me all right bet let's try this let me let me go help
Starting point is 02:47:27 about everybody else that's not with y'all. And let's see if y'all feel it. That would be interesting. Hmm. Middleman lined it and I cut him out of the deal. Turn cutthrow for real. The sad truth is most artists who leave major label deals never regain their momentum. At wireless, Drake had special guests with longstanding issues with record labels and that
Starting point is 02:47:47 wasn't random. This is a quiet and calculated move that mirrors the narrative within his lawsuit. Drake has been laying out all the clues like the guy's going independent 100%. In episode one of Iceman Drake is working at the manufacturing plant. He's a cog in the machine, just another worker inside the system. We see flashes of a young hungry Drake, just a naive kid chasing the dream, but that innocence fades fast. The scene shifts to something far darker as we We see Drake surrounded by guns with two larger rifles aimed at one another, and from the beginning I saw this as a metaphor for the war with the label system, specifically UMG.
Starting point is 02:48:33 When Drake clocks out and slams that gate shut, it is symbolic. He's not just ending a shift, he's walking away from the machine and he's going to war against them. Some rumors say that Iceman is the final album that is owed to UMG under contract, and if this is true, and it all makes sense. This is it. Like, I... Chad, let me tell you this.
Starting point is 02:49:00 It gets spooky every time that last album comes. By the way, I've heard the same that Iceman is the last album. I heard there's a lot of things still happening moving parts. A lot of things. I'll give you out of tidbit, chat. I went down a rabbit hole, Chad.
Starting point is 02:49:19 I went down a rabbit hole. I was upset. I was upset this last... last two weeks. Everybody know NBA young boy is a close friend of mine. He's not an industry darling. I've always supported him. He's supported me. I wasn't happy with some of the lack of placements that he was given and shown despite the fact that he is and one of the biggest artists in the game. And I went down a rabbit hole and I talked to a lot of people. And I actually did come up with some answers. And the answers, and this is for Wabi fans who I know people
Starting point is 02:50:01 trying to get on y'all like, Wabi flop, this and third, he's going to come back to this drink point on make it. This is Young Boys' last album on Capitol. He might not return. They have no incentive to push this shit like he's the biggest guy in the world. They have no incentive to push it. They've been trying to get him under another contract. He just got out of jail. They want to get him on another contract. He got a big-ass tour. that he's about to do. He hasn't agreed to anything. They're not going to go crazy and let you go sell 150,000
Starting point is 02:50:37 records and then you walk away to another company. No, nigger. Agree with us. Stay in the plantation and we'll make you win. That's how it is. So what I was told was that his label was more culpable more than maybe DSPs and everybody else. he's on his last album over there
Starting point is 02:50:59 and I hear he's talking big shit again he's talking big money he wants big if they want to keep him he want big money they of course don't you know labels be they try to lowball you but when you think about the album
Starting point is 02:51:15 there was a lot of conversations that was supposed to be had which is like hey listen we can't have this motherfucker go sell $150,000 then he don't re-sign with us and he walk right back over to Atlantic yes Atlantic
Starting point is 02:51:30 wants him back. Surprise. They have new management. Shout to Elliot over there. They want it back. They want him back. You get to realize when it comes to music, there's so much things happening in the background. This is supposedly Drake's last album. We're going to see a lot of interest and shit. Ace Man is his last work shift. He's done. So to me it only makes sense that when he parks that truck and three weeks later, the man is saying they found it and it's empty. that's because Drake's days as UMG's delivery boy are over. And to me, this is a huge part of the premise behind Iceman and like what all this means. Anyways, the scene switches to a brick wall and you could see there's a door with a Pinocchio drawn onto it.
Starting point is 02:52:22 Now, I actually tracked this exact location down and as you could see here, the Pinocchio artwork isn't on the shot from Google Maps. So obviously Drake put that there for a reason. Filming it in Manchester makes sense because he had a shot. show just the next night. Next it switches to a scene where we see a pedestrian crosswalk sign, and I was able to find this location on the map as well. You can see that it's just off the street from the last scene, something that you'll also
Starting point is 02:52:49 notice. This is another thing. You see, there's a lot of y'all YouTubers who keep talking smack about my boy, what's the dirt, which I don't put in half the effort. Y'all can't hate on somebody who works harder than you, who is better than you, and who is going to make sure he delivers. and is more entertaining than you. There's a lot of y'all are YouTubers.
Starting point is 02:53:07 Y'all mad at him for whatever reason. Y'all say, oh, no, you like Drake too much. You don't know what, Kendrick? Whatever. This guy's doing a great job. I ain't going to allow to you. This is some effort. Here is that on the pedestrian sign itself
Starting point is 02:53:20 is a hand-drawn sketch of what appears to be Spider-Man. And that's not even the first time that we saw this sketch. In episode one, I remembered that when the scenes showed the whiteboard with all the different types of ice on it, You could also see that same character again. At first, I really thought this was Spider-Man, but certified Jarrett on Twitter claimed that this was the logo of Ben Dorado,
Starting point is 02:53:45 who carried out a lot of design work for Party and Drake's album, and he also works closely with Drake's brand partner, Nocta. So I'm just not going to go down any Spider-Man rabbit holes yet. The scene then switches for the third time, and again, I traced it all on the map, so without a doubt, the last three shots were all filmed in the exact same area. As you could see here, this is the exact same location from Drake's stream.
Starting point is 02:54:11 I saw people assume that this was like pre-recorded, but it's not. This is all live. Next, the scene switches to the inside of the building, and the business that Drake is at is called Sher Shop Brewing in Manchester. I even found a photo from this exact same scene with Drake on their website. They're a small independent company. Drake enters the scene still wearing the Iceman hoodie from the first episode, and you could see him looking at the red button on the left-hand side. Then he tinkers with the control panel in the front, which also has a red button, and the scene switches again, and he approaches another red button.
Starting point is 02:54:48 You can't really see which buttons he's pressing. On ShurShot's Instagram account, they shared some photos of Drake in their shop with the following caption. Had a new brewer start last night. He turned on the chiller, prepped the lines, and locked up. Not sure he'll be back. So he's turning on the chiller, which kind of, you know, is in line with the Iceman theme. So for anyone that doesn't believe that this was a live stream, the company clearly said that it all took place last night,
Starting point is 02:55:16 and they even posted footage of the cameraman filming. This was definitely all in real time. Next, we switched to a scene with a man wearing a Pinocchio costume, standing behind a tree, with a red trailer behind him that reads deliveries. That is impressive he's doing it in real time because it looks like fans might have been there, but maybe they were prepped before like, hey, listen,
Starting point is 02:55:37 just don't interrupt. This is not the time for you to run up to him for a pitcher. He'll give you a picture afterwards, but just let him do his thing because it's live. Up the 27 million, all in a day's work, with the word work blocked out. The scene that we're looking at in this case is exactly across the street
Starting point is 02:55:54 from the building that Drake is inside. Pinocchio is stalking Drake. Like he's watching them. The red trailer and the words that you are seeing is from a Royal Mail delivery truck in the UK. They have always parked their trucks in this location. Now, the slogan on the truck itself is interesting because of the number 27 million. This is the exact number of views that Kendrick's Super Bowl performance had on YouTube in the first 24 hours. Given the fact that Pinocchio is paired with that number, I just don't think it's a,
Starting point is 02:56:27 coincidence. Drake has made plenty of claims about bot usage and now we've got a man literally stocking him in a Pinocchio costume, so there's no doubt in my mind that this character is meant to represent Kendrick. When we look at the character of Pinocchio, he is a wooden puppet fabricated by the man and a fairy grants on the powers to be able to move around like a real person. From here he desires nothing more than to be a real boy and there is even a point in the 1940 Disney movie where Pinocchio is manipulated into performing at a puppet show by a fox name Honest John as he ensures him that if he does this it will make him a star. Bright lights, music, applause, fame, straight to the top.
Starting point is 02:57:13 Why, I can see your name in lights, lights six feet high. Pinocchio listens to Honest John, he does the show, and at first it all seems to be 100% worth it. However, he's ultimately trapped in a cage and is destined to be owned by the show owner for life. To me, you are belonging. We will tour the world. Paris, London. You will make lots of money.
Starting point is 02:57:41 The role of Honest John in the Disney movie is an interesting parallel when we consider that John Janick, the CEO of Interscope Records, was so heavily involved in Kendrick's career. It's even more interesting when we see that John Janick has been named in the UMG lawsuit, where Drake's legal team have made demands to see compensation, incentives, salaries, and bonuses from John Janick specifically. In fact, it was just February of 2024, several months before the beef started, where it was announced that John will be shifted into a role where he assumed a greater responsibility over U.S. label operations for UMG. So I feel like this is like a bigger connection when it comes to Pinocchio and why this is Kendrick because it all ties back to John Janik. Pinocchio was manipulated to perform. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 02:58:35 But I haven't even, this is the person I watched it. There is some things that is that from what I know behind the scenes. In front of a packed house where he is lying to the audience to become a star. The two stories have remarkable parallels because Drake is implying that Kendrick is a label pawn in UMG's game. Drake has accused Kendrick of being a grifter and inauthentic. He's made claims of Kendrick's jealousy towards him and his longstanding desire to be in Drake's place. Like Pinocchio, Kendrick wants to be Drake, who was also known as the boy, and with the assistance of the labels, he's given the biggest stage of his career. However, just like the 1940 movie, Drake is insinuating that all this will be short-lived
Starting point is 02:59:30 because the facade cannot be maintained when it's built on a mountain of lies. This is not even the first time that he called him a puppet. He said it on Taylor Made. While we're still on the topic of Pinocchio, remember we saw that Drake drew the character on the door next to that brick wall. Doors turn out to be an important theme into Pinocchio movie because many of the doors that he goes through are metaphorical traps. They look inviting but lead to danger. It's with this symbol on the door where Drake seems to be saying that when it's opened up, Kendrick's
Starting point is 03:00:06 lies will be devastatingly exposed. And yes, I did watch Pinocchio for this video. When it comes to the phrase on the truck, if you look closely, the word work is partially covered, leaving just a letter K and a period, which stands for KDOT. Now, to me, this part is probably just a coincidence because the sign that is blocking the word has been in that location for a very long time, even in older photos. I do think it's a coincidence because that sign, like it looks like it hasn't moved in years. Drake closes the gate behind him and steps outside, glancing around like he's checking to see if someone's trailing him. Then we cut to another shot of Pinocchio, only now he's moved. He's no longer by the tree as he's crept closer to the building,
Starting point is 03:00:54 hiding awkwardly in the bushes. With that said, he's doing a terrible job of blending in. His bright red costume clashes hard against the green backdrop. He sticks out like a sore thumb, just watching as Drake walks right past him. You'll notice that Drake looks back in his exact direction multiple times. It's possible that Drake knows what he's doing, but he doesn't seem all that bothered by it. The scene then switches to a close-up of door number one, where the camera focuses on secure, tracking labels. This is a sure sign that the area is being monitored, which might not be the
Starting point is 03:01:30 best news for Pinocchio, especially considering what unfolds later in the stream. The scene then switches to a departure board for a train headed to York from the Manchester Piccadilly Station. This train is set to depart at 244 a.m., and I confirm that this is indeed a regular scheduled route. So it's not like Drake put the words there, like this is an actual schedule. route at that station. And really this is another strong indication that everything we are seeing is being filmed in real time. 244 a.m. is 9.44 Eastern.
Starting point is 03:02:06 The stream was scheduled for 9 o'clock. It had a 10-15 minute delay. And as you could see, the clock that's rolling shows a time of 9.21 p.m. So again, for the people who think this is all pre-film, like it's not. It's all live. What we see next is the Manchester Victoria. Bats building. This is an old building that was built in 1906 as a place where people could bathe and shower. Next we switch to various scenes within the building itself and the common
Starting point is 03:02:35 theme for most of the visuals is clearly doors. Unlike the closed doors shown with the Pinocchio on it, these doors are all open. This likely symbolizes what we discussed earlier. An open door symbolizes that secrets are no longer hidden. Something that was once private is now exposed or accessible. Multiple open doors also symbolize multiple secrets. While Drake was in the brewery, we saw multiple red buttons, and you'll soon see the name of the upcoming song that he previews is called Which One? Hmm, which one?
Starting point is 03:03:08 Which button should I press first? Which door should I open? The scene cuts to Central Sea dressed like a British mobster, clearly channeling Tommy from Peaky Blinders, who also filmed at Victoria Bats in Season 2, Episode 6. In that episode, Tommy holds dangerous secrets about government deals and intelligence operations. He really knows too much and he fears that powerful people around them might have him killed, so he begins writing a letter that exposes everything just in case he's found dead.
Starting point is 03:03:34 After I've served my purpose, I believe they intend to kill me. I therefore want to name a particular individual in this letter. The agent who has initiated and orchestrated this crime is major chest of Campbell. The British Secret Intelligence Service, in the event of my death, It's imperative he rewards justice. Eventually Central C, who again seems to be channeling Tommy's character, meets Drake at the top level of the pool and hands him a bag. Now, in my opinion, the bag likely represents one of two things.
Starting point is 03:03:57 One, incriminating evidence that someone gave Drake, meaning he's in possession of something they never thought would surface, information that certain people are desperate to keep buried, or two, the bag acts as a metaphor for the knowledge that Drake already has. Central C's character really could just be a symbol or a vessel, Whether it's contracts, manipulation, streaming games, dirt on Kendrick, or industry puppeteering, the bag represents all that. In theory, it holds everything that Tommy's letter contained at the beginning of that episode. The bag is most definitely the bomb.
Starting point is 03:04:28 For Pinocchio, I was able to watch the movie because it's just one movie. Like, Peaky Blinders is a fucking series. I would have to watch. I would never get the video done, but I did watch that episode, and this is what I came up with. The scene that cuts to a woman dancing in an empty pool to Drake and Central C's new track, which won. Keep in mind, this dream pretty much acts as the music video for this song. And when you think of a pool, it's typically a fun place that's full of life and energy. And one can imagine that a typical music industry video for a song like this one would fall into a much happier scene.
Starting point is 03:05:01 However, Drake is threatening to show the other side of it by draining the pool. When that happens, the scene becomes eerie and a fun facade behind many of our favorite dance records have a far darker backstory. The woman is wearing all black and the scene doesn't scream party, but I'm trapped. In many ways, like an empty pool, the artist becomes a shell of one's former self. Again, that's just my perspective, my take. The song could also have some sort of dark meaning intertwine in it that's not visible to the general public. Drake has been known to layer subliminals towards people where only they know what he's talking about. When it comes to Drake, that's why you can't only focus on his rapping records, right?
Starting point is 03:05:37 Because he layers different messages in like R&B records or like it could be some happy. singing song that might have something darker tied to it. Central C and Drake then tap off and he leaves with the bag and the next scene focuses on the plunge bath in the building. These bats were typically really cold so this could be another tie-in to the Iceman theme.
Starting point is 03:05:58 Next we get Central C sitting down and he previews a new record. I fuck with the record actually but I just don't like I'm not going to break it down now. Again it's with this Central C track where Drake is just buying time so that he can get in position for the next scene. That's why we start seeing flashes of scenes that we were already shown. Eventually, we see the gate for Manchester Piccadilly Station, which is exactly where Drake needs
Starting point is 03:06:21 to be to catch that train in New York. The scene switches where we see Pinocchio, aka Kendrick, running after Drake. This is meant to symbolize that the evidence that Drake has in the bag puts him miles ahead of the puppet that is chasing him. It's really symbolic in the sense that Drake is saying, after everything you just did, you still aren't ahead of me, and you never will be. Lies can never outrun the truth. Your story is not sustained. and what's in this bag is going to make sure of it. Drake is on this crazy next level cryptic shit. And if I'm Kendrick, like, he's probably tossing a turn right now.
Starting point is 03:06:50 Kendrick's probably having trouble sleeping. No, he's not. No, he's not. Listen, I would like to think this is not Kendrick related because the last time we said Kendrick three times it ain't turned out too good. So let just leave that nigga alone, right? I think that nigga, I think that nigga is begging for a round.
Starting point is 03:07:12 round two. Okay. That little leprechaun, he don't got nothing to do but write battle wraps. He got a euphoria part two, part three, four and five,
Starting point is 03:07:21 and I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm good. I don't like, listen, drink, let's just talk about some other shit. Like, leave that little leprechaun.
Starting point is 03:07:28 I'm gonna be honest with you, man, yeah. Yo, if you think Ken, yeah, Kendrick,
Starting point is 03:07:34 he, he ain't, he ain't sleeping because he's cooking up 20 more distracks. Now, I'm good. We good.
Starting point is 03:07:41 We good. We're good. We learned. We good. We're chilling. Kendrick, go over there. Go over there, nigger. Go, go, go dance with sister, nigga. Pinocchio, they can't see. My nose don't grow, though. We then see Drake walking through.
Starting point is 03:07:53 Chat, we're not trying to get back. Br, as much as Drake is getting into his cryptic bag, I don't want Kendrick in response doing some other 10-minute song where people are sick. Come on, bro. No, I'm good. This is straight Drake. This is only Drake shit.
Starting point is 03:08:14 Okay? This is Drake's like, you know, revenge tour, but let's not make it about Kendrick, chat. Like, and I know Drake fans, no, no. Let's not make it about Kendrick. Kendrick has tried to steal every moment from Drake in his life. He would love to do this too. Don't make his rollout about Kendrick.
Starting point is 03:08:35 I'm telling y'all now, y'all Drake fans, don't make it about Kendrick. Because Kendrick would love to come in and swoop down and steal Drake's thunder and joy. Don't do it. Warning y'all. Through Piccadilly Station miles ahead of the puppet. He gets into an elevator and an instrumental starts
Starting point is 03:08:53 where you already know what Tom it is with this. We all know what Drake is about to do with his beat. I believe it's on this track. Let me tell you this. The way I look at this Iceman like whole thing, this is Drake realizing his friends wasn't his friends. What did I miss? I didn't know that y'all niggis had envy and jealous.
Starting point is 03:09:11 for me. I was trying to give to y'all. Y'all was taken from me, but y'all had hatred for me. This era is, yes, I guess Kendrick and the battle plays a part into it, but this isn't focused on Kendrick. I don't believe, and this is where I'm going to, I'm going to deviate from, you know, I shout to it and I fuck with my man, what's the dirt. I don't think this Pinocchio is Kendrick, or only represents Kendrick. I think Drake's plight is bigger than that. It's for all the people that thought he was over, the people that regurgitated lies.
Starting point is 03:09:51 They laughed and they danced at his supposed demise. That's, he's going at everybody. One of the misunderstandings about Drake during this entire time is that Drake was only focused on trying to defeat Kendrick Lamar. I think the only song he ever only addressed Kendrick Lamar on was the hard part six. Every other song he ever dropped,
Starting point is 03:10:15 he, you know, excluding Taylor Made. Taylor Made was pretty much straight, Kendrick Lamar. But he push-ups and family matters, he was kind of shooting at a bunch of people. I don't believe that he's only, like, this new revenge,
Starting point is 03:10:35 and I'm calling the revenge arc by him, is just Kendrick Focus. I think, I think, Bro, I'm going to be honest with you. I think he's more mad at LeBron more than Kendrick. He don't got no relationship with Kendrick. He's always thought Kendrick was just a bum-ass nigger that wanted his spot. I'm telling you, God, honest truth.
Starting point is 03:10:54 He always thought Kendrick was a hater. He never fuck with Kendrick like that. He always knew that a nigger that could barely pass the bar at Six Flags to get on the rise. He never was fucking with that nigga. He's not disappointed with him. Trust me, he, like, I could tell Drake. really feel away about this LeBron shit. I think it's the LeBron's of the world.
Starting point is 03:11:15 I think it's like niggas he gave features to. I think it's other people who switched up. Other people he saw different things from. Of course, it's always going to be up with your op. Yes, that is his op. It's going to be up with him. But the idea that it's like, oh, me versus him in a different way. No, please, don't give the little leprechaun that much credit.
Starting point is 03:11:37 No. Okay? This is, yo, old word? Oh yeah, I thought I was done. What did I mean? Listen, the idea of what did I miss is he didn't think that. Kendrick fuck with him? What did I miss with the niggas that I fuck with?
Starting point is 03:11:53 Okay, that's just my interpretation. This exact track where he's going to expose some of the information that's contained in the metaphorical bag. When Drake catches the elevator with this playing in the background, it only spells out one thing. I'm on a whole other level than the god that's still outside the building. No. Well, I'm disagreeing with my guy here, but I'm seeing it differently. This sigh of relief that he got away from Pinocchio is one of those. You know, remember when he showed up to that show with the bullet holes and it was smoking?
Starting point is 03:12:27 This is like relief. He got in the elevator. It's like, I got away. Despite the lies, despite the liars, I got away and I still got the shit on me. I still got the shit on me. That's how I look at it. I'm not going to personalize this to, like, you know, I've always said, if Drake had just not given Kendrick the time of day,
Starting point is 03:12:56 that boy wouldn't be at the Super Bowl. I think it would be a great mistake for Drake to consistently. And by the way, he has done it recently because he definitely filed the lawsuit on the week that Kendrick was dropping an album. If Drake chooses to put Kendrick back in the crosshairs When he's rolling out his new project He should be saying fuck you to everybody It should be yo
Starting point is 03:13:21 This is what happens when a good nigger Not saying it's a good nigga But this is what happens when a nigger get betrayed by all his friends He comes out like this But if it's still back with him and Kendrick Trust me Kendrick is going to steal the spotlight He's going to drop some type of weird song
Starting point is 03:13:37 and he's going to start doing a victory lap. They're going to be fucking cripp-walking again and they're going to be doing like, come on, mustard is cooking up a beat right now. Like, come on, bro, we don't even want that shit, bro. Come on, stop it, bro. Let's focus on Drake versus everybody. That's what I like. Revenge.
Starting point is 03:13:53 Lastly, we see the words coming soon with a Pinocchio silhouette in the middle, which means Drake is going to be exposing a lot of these lies in the very near future. They might have caught this dude off guard last time, but you do realize they're fucked now, right? They're fucked. I'll call it right now
Starting point is 03:14:09 I love you What's the dirt Listen man I love Drake Drake Don't listen to nobody but me That boy Kung Fu Kenny
Starting point is 03:14:20 With no more lyrical Sparring with him No more You're not Just no That shit is not happening You are on your own path Here's the thing
Starting point is 03:14:31 The niggas is not interested Unless you talk about them They want you to give them a second year that he could go back to the Super Bowl and win some more Grammys. Because like, come on, don't do it. Don't do it. The way, again, you say fuck the battle and you win the war. The war is time for the war to be determined.
Starting point is 03:14:57 Fuck the battle win the war. The way you win the war is going to be this. You win the war by everybody who claimed you. were done, you show them that you were just getting started in your new peak. You start rapping more inspired than you have in years. You get back on your shit and you drop a fucking classic. You don't mention these guys by names no more. Well, you can mention like A-Sap Rocky and him because what is Rocky going to do?
Starting point is 03:15:29 I love your Rocky, but what are you going to do, right? But leave Kendrick alone. And I'm not saying it out of place of fear. I'm saying it out of place of we have to understand what is actually smart. What's actually smart is not for you to still be attacking
Starting point is 03:15:48 a guy who uses your energy to catapult his. When you talk about Kendrick, all you got to just say a hater. That's it. No more directed bars like you. They don't know.
Starting point is 03:16:09 Be like, yo, you switched on the guys and you supported a hater. That's it. That's all he gets. You just call him a hater or you just call him a bitch. That's it. You don't give him no more credit that everybody can be like, ooh, Kendrick, are you responding? Dang what?
Starting point is 03:16:25 Fuck that. That shit's over. You don't do that again. You got to let niggas earn their keep. You let niggas earn their keep. I'm telling you, Jay-Z, he might. be a lot of things, but he had the right formula when he was subliminally barring niggins to death and didn't just give them stimulus packages by just naming them. You know the game wanted him to
Starting point is 03:16:55 name drop him, right? You know Jim Jones wanted him to name drop him, right? There are so many people that wanted Jay at his height to just pass the clout over by basically saying, hey, I'm in a rap battle with this guy who was pretty much undeserving. J. C.on Taylor, the game, was smoking hot at that time. But he wasn't on JZ level. He wanted JZ to engage. Keep into danger zone. You're going to make the boy hole. Put your name in the song.
Starting point is 03:17:31 If you're that hungry for fame, motherfucker, come on. Say when? Take 10 paces in the sand. But on another note, by to take another vacate. Listen, you gotta, yo, yo, Drake, you gotta get back on your, you gotta listen to Hove.
Starting point is 03:17:48 Get on your dead summer shit. No more mentioning these niggies name. These guys are waste men. Straight up. Look out, look out Jay does barred niggas up. There's some, I know you're gonna miss me. For we've been together like Nike ears
Starting point is 03:18:03 and Chris Thes as dot with a polo fleece, this purple label shit with a logo secret. Give me a couple years and I might just sneak in a couple words in like peaches and herbs. We'd be reunited and it feels so heard. Have the whole world saying, how are you still so good? Well, I do this in my slumber, summer. I ain't none of these half-ass newcomers.
Starting point is 03:18:24 You know I do. Summer, I drop heat when you bring the sun up. The combo make niggins act up. I pick the gun up. Niggins back up. They know I'm not no fronter. I don't talk shit. I just flip it on you.
Starting point is 03:18:37 Sorry, Lance. I'm just trying to advance my quotes. You see that on Rivera reference? But I ain't make you to butt on my jokes But let not stray from what I came to say To my beloved Think we need some time away They say if you love it
Starting point is 03:18:52 You should let it out of his cage And fuck it if it comes back You know it's here to stay It's tugging at my heart But this time apart is needed From the public Who should have gave me to Come on man
Starting point is 03:19:04 But you know me Thug into the casket dips But it still shine Light on all my peers I know they weird Some of them queer but I still want him to share in all the success that I received. I know they can't believe.
Starting point is 03:19:19 I still love him, but they don't love me. They're like the drunk uncle in your family. You know they lame, but you feel ashamed, but you still love him the same. Yo, he's barring these niggins up. Not one they mentioned. These things were probably on the block in front of the boat. Now, Jay, talking about me.
Starting point is 03:19:37 Now, he's talking about me on that one. No, that's all for me. No, it wasn't. Shut your bitch ass. But it's like when niggas make subliminal records, if it ain't, this was the iron of the whole thing. This was the biggest subliminal record. It's like when niggas make subliminal records, if it ain't directly, directly than me, I don't respect it. You don't really want it with hole for the record.
Starting point is 03:19:58 I put a couple careers on hole. You could be next kid? Keep inching in the danger zone. You're going to make that boy hole, put your name in the song. If you're that hungry for fame, oh, fucker, come on. Say when? Just take 10 paces and spin. But on another note, about to take another vacation.
Starting point is 03:20:13 another boat. God damn my motherfucker wrote his way out the hood. Oh my God. Niggins can't fuck with me. I'm in a good mood. You lucky. I got a good groove. And I ain't try to fuck my thing up, but I will lay down a couple green bucks to get you
Starting point is 03:20:29 cleaned up. Non-pulp fiction. Code 4'5th. Come on, man. Yo. Come on, man. Come on, man. And then, when he had to get that Beanie Siegel?
Starting point is 03:20:49 I ain't going to lie. That was it Bees? He did beans dirty too. He did beans dirty. It was Blueprint 3. He did beans dirty. Yo, Drake, don't listen to nobody. Listen to my advice.
Starting point is 03:21:06 Never say these niggies names again, bro. Listen, if they're going to say you don't win no battles or you want all your battles or you want and two, who gives the fuck, you're the biggest. Fuck these niggins. You get what I'm saying? they can't make headlines without you. Even when they say you lost, they got to talk about you. Fuck them.
Starting point is 03:21:23 What we're talking about. You see, that's what Jay-Z was on. What we're talking about? This is what Jay-Z was on is later part of his career because he realized cloud chases and niggins that wanted his spot was just this to them left and right. What we talked to... You got to listen to these lyrics.
Starting point is 03:21:39 Hey, hold on. Right here. Right here, no. No, no, it's not what we're talking about. Is it what we're talking about? Nah, no, no, it's not what we're talking about. What is it? What is it?
Starting point is 03:22:00 What's the name in that song? It'd be like, yo, I could have killed a couple rappers. Like, I love when he had barred niggins up. See, Kendrick even used that line. I could have killed a couple. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 03:22:14 Thank you. Jay Z. Bored them niggins up. Jay Z was like Jay Z wasn't giving news. No, nigger, no clout. Listen to what that nigga Jay said. I think it was the third verse. So I was going to kill a couple rappers, but they did it to themselves.
Starting point is 03:22:32 I was going to do it with the flow, but they did it with the sales. I was going 9-11 them, but they didn't need to help. And they did a good job. Them boys is talented as hell. Because not only did they brick, they put up a building as well. They ran a plane into the building. And when that building fell, ran to the crash site with no masking in hell, Toxies deep inside their lungs
Starting point is 03:22:53 Until both of them was filled Ble a cloud out like a L Into a jar and took a smell Because they heard the second hand smoke Kills Niggins thought they was ill Found out they was ill And it's like you know exactly How I wanted you to feel
Starting point is 03:23:10 Body niggas Body niggas Body niggas Yo he was giving niggins Subliminals Even on Lost One I heard motherfuckers saying they made hove Made hove say okay so make another hove
Starting point is 03:23:34 Niggas wasn't playing their day roll So we parted ways like Ben and J-Lo I should have been did it But I've been in the days though I put friends over business end of the day though But when friends business interests Is day glow Ain't nothing left to say though
Starting point is 03:23:51 I guess who we forgot what we came for Should have stayed in food and beverage Too much flossing too much Sam Rostin. I ain't a bitch, but I got to divorce them. This is what he was talking about. I got a splitless Rocker Fellowship, man. Dame, go over there, nigga.
Starting point is 03:24:06 Go get your teeth back. I'm playing. Damn, I love you. And I ain't even want to be famous, but niggas is brainless to it necessarily go through these changes. And I ain't even know how to came to this. Except that fame is the worst drug known
Starting point is 03:24:17 to man is stronger than. Heroin. Well, you could look at a mirror like, There I am and still not see what you become. I know I'm guilty of it too. but just not like them. Oh my God. Jay was going crazy.
Starting point is 03:24:32 Yo, Jay went so crazy. Jay went so crazy. Beanie Siegel was losing his mind. Beanie Segal Charlamagne. That's what Charlene got fired too. He did an interview. It was in, um, it was in Philly. He was in Philly at that time.
Starting point is 03:24:50 Nick got fired right after that. Look. Right. Jammin' 94. What the fuck? back and let the boot cops and the police coming in. He's standing right there. Dog, that's how you feel. I feel
Starting point is 03:25:03 as though. You owe me. Hold on. Hold on. Where is that interview? Nah, it was when he was on Philly, bro. And he was breaking the lyrics down and Charleney was like, how you know that was about you? He was like, bro, I know that that nigga was talking about me. And that's what subliminals do, bro.
Starting point is 03:25:25 I can't remember. I can't remember. Beanie Siegel Philly interview. I think it was 100. 100.3 to beat. Something like that. Yeah, I don't think I can find it. Fuck.
Starting point is 03:25:45 Oh, yeah. Here we go. Here we go. It was really a family. Like people. Here go. Yeah. And me.
Starting point is 03:25:57 Is this me listening? And I'm just getting my... You know, me individually, but I'm not in the pot already. They compare me the big and pot already. Like, I ain't... As y'all... See, he's breaking down the lyrics. Jay never said his name.
Starting point is 03:26:15 Jay, but that shit was hurting his heart. Love you, Beans, but it's true. Jay was so nice with a sublimus. He was hurting Beans' heart. Look. Look. Look. Unavised things like
Starting point is 03:26:29 made, make tapes. Talking about camel hunting seasons and all that crazy stuff. So we know, we know Jay. You know what I mean? Nah, say that shit. And, and, excuse my language, and Cam said that in records. But then you got like Pedy Crack who has said it too
Starting point is 03:26:47 that he's just addressing those individual people. Like, is the rock and the whole? Because, like, who else is he talking about? Like Jim Jones did some, Dane did some and all these other people dishing. But when he say lines, like, I heated up the rock already. So why y'all, you know what I mean? Can't get hot already.
Starting point is 03:27:10 He was talking about this song. What song was it? I heated up the rock already. Yeah, he was disin, all of me. It was already home. Oh, my God, he violated. Yo, Jay-Z on Blueprint 3? Bro, subliminal's going crazy.
Starting point is 03:27:28 Let me see. Heat it up. Let me see, this is going to heat it. Yeah, right here. He says, I'm in a hall already. On the wall already. I'm a work of art. I'm a war hall already.
Starting point is 03:27:41 On another level, another plane already. HOV. I got my own lane already. I don't cooked up the rock already So why the fuck Can y'all get hot already Put your name in a pot already Niggies compare me to big and pock already
Starting point is 03:27:56 Like I'm already gone already And I'm a nigga, I'm already home already And I'm if y'all can't already See, I ain't worried about y'all Because I'm already me Yeah, do you already Enough with a complaining boo hooves already Eat food already
Starting point is 03:28:10 Ain't nothing given You gotta claim your shoes already That shit. was punching like Mike Tyson to Beanie Siegel. That big went to the radio and answered a line that never said his name. I'm in all these other people disson, but when he say lines like, I heated up the rock already. So why y'all, you know what I mean can't get hot already? Put your name in the pot already.
Starting point is 03:28:35 They compare me the big and pot already. Like, as y'all can already see, I'm not worrying about y'all because I'm already me. like when you listen to them lines like datum lines that's like that I know like like as a rapper I understand because I know what he do it's like when he's like this dam and when dam and the bit was talking about Jim Jones was going I mean Cam was going to be the vice president and all that when he came back it was that out of the blueprint too and it was like a holy tone with the global phone and all of that number one rapping order you cast over felt yourself you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 03:29:17 that was like not shots just that people thought was that game that was that dang dash and them too like I know he he slick and record you know I'm saying because I'm knowing so so where did this whole situation stem from because I'm gonna be honest what you mean the whole situation to stem from like it's like all right j in another place right and I understand that he did we did like as far as this like signing people to rock a fellow record you did that but as far as the push
Starting point is 03:29:49 that people could have got that really could have did things you know what I'm saying you didn't do that like if you look at 50 cents like no disrespect to the G unit and none of that you know what I'm saying because I love the way 50 shit did
Starting point is 03:30:05 with his with his dolls but if you look at it like little dudes got more money and more bread than anybody at their state property. Just if you made sure of that. All right. And that's what I'm trying to tell you.
Starting point is 03:30:21 Drake got to get back on that, bro. Yo, Drake. Trust me. You got to go back to being a subliminal king, man. Go back to being a subliminal king. The field is stacked against you. There's so much, it's so, the hip-hop's so polarizing now.
Starting point is 03:30:40 It don't matter who you beef with. You should have learned from the Push-a-T thing. Push-a-T got 15 fans. but when you go against push a T you have so much haters it looked like push a T got like 55 million fans so no matter
Starting point is 03:30:56 who you go against there's a coalition of niggas that don't like you that hate your run they think you've been running the game too long they can't wait for you to lose it's like Floyd there was so many people that would support the boxer going against Floyd
Starting point is 03:31:12 not because they fuck with a boxer they just hated Floyd so at this point point if I'm if I'm Drake why to fuck even entertain a rap battle again directly you're a digit thing look at LeBron nigger did the dunk contest come on now bro all you got to do bar these niggins to death subliminal subliminal make them make them go crazy that's if if I'm Drake yo they're all on your dick bro they're all on your dick whether you put out a good song a bad song you do duck lips you do just bar them to death have these these niggas on
Starting point is 03:31:47 Instagram like, yo, why Drake dissing me? Why he doing this? That's what you was on before. And right when they come out talking crazy, just be like, I hope you're doing good, bro. Just let it go. Just keep moving on and just keep violating them like that.
Starting point is 03:32:04 Trust me, bro. You got to go back to the subliminal game. That's my thought. Anyway, anyway. No, no, no. All y'all told my, oh, no, ag, you're scared. No. It's because y'all want to see let me tell this it's like me yo chat put it like this i've seen some of these some of these guys like chat i've been doing youtube for 15 years there's nothing really bigger than the chat let's think about this right there's nothing big of the chat but have you ever seen
Starting point is 03:32:30 when there's a day when it's supposed to hate on act it could be versus anybody you see that person gets the get the most retweets in the world why because there's a coalition of people that hate me that really dislike me that they've been waiting to see the downfall of that they'll support any fuck nigger that goes against me right like if freddie gibbs want to get a viral tweet he just has to fuck act right when you get to that point right where you just have a audience of people wanting you to lose why do you engage with niggis because it's only going to galvanize the haters to support the niggas going against you do you understand what i'm saying like there's put it like this. Do you think that all the niggies that are like anti-Drake right now just love Kendrick?
Starting point is 03:33:20 My nigga, these niggins, don't even listen to Kendrick. Not all of them. Some of them. They don't, they're just like, you fuck this nigga, Drake. For whatever reason. So when you get to that point where you have a coalition of haters that just don't like you, why would you single out and keep going at one person? Just keep subliminally dissing them. You know why? Because here's the thing. The secret towards being like in this, in a, entertainment and like, you know, when you're a public figure. And I've learned this. You know, and I'm getting better with it.
Starting point is 03:33:54 You've got to learn to use your haters. Got to use them because I keep telling you either fan watches one time or twice. Your hater watches five or six times. Your hater are going to make five accounts. You see, you block your hater. He comes back with a new account. You block a fan. He's so hurt.
Starting point is 03:34:09 He don't come back. That's the thing. Fan is going to be hurt. A hater going to make three more profiles. He might get a second iPhone because you know the new thing on Instagram, you block the nigger. And then it says you block all the accounts. Then they go get a new iPhone to go stalk you. A hater watches five times.
Starting point is 03:34:29 A fan watches once or twice. So you got to learn how to string your haters along. This is why niggas like Charleston Whitewin. You got to make them believe you're about to take the L that they're always there, giving you engagement that you're profiting from. and right when they think they got it, you'd be like, next time, next time, next time, until next time. Trust me.
Starting point is 03:34:53 So you see, all the big is who claim they don't, like, Drake's the cancer, dissenter. They're just Drake fans. They're still Drake fans. Drake just got to goat them. Just bring them along. Give them something else to be a little bit mad about. Make it feel like he's about to finally take the L.
Starting point is 03:35:10 Yeah, but given another rapper, like, here's the thing. Niggas will support whatever bum-ass rapper that's going against Drake to hope that Drake loses. So don't give nobody the attention. And that's just my opinion. Y'all can disagree with it, but whatever. All right, all right, right, right, right. Where are we at? Where are we at?
Starting point is 03:35:35 Okay, we got through a good amount. Oh, well, I guess I'll play this last thing since we're getting off of the Drake conversations. I feel like we took a while on that. By the way, happy Saturday, people I keep telling y'all I am very I'm actually very Hold on
Starting point is 03:36:03 I'm actually very surprised and proud that Is that real numbers It's saying that we got like 18,000 people in here Last one look was like 13 How many people don't rumble? Oh wow Did they front pages on rumble or some shit?
Starting point is 03:36:33 Must be Oh, they did. They front pages on Rumble. Oh, shots to my people on Rumble. We got 6,000 on Rumble right now. Hey, welcome. Welcome.
Starting point is 03:36:48 Oh, wow. We actually are, we are front pages on Rumble. Thank you guys on Rumble. Appreciate you. All right, so I guess we're legit today. We're almost at like 20,000 people. We have 10,000 on both of our YouTubes.
Starting point is 03:37:03 We have about 3,500 on kick, and then we have almost 7,000 on Rumble. Rumble, thank you guys. Okay. What I wanted to play was Drake, who in his Amsterdam tour, he set a speech. And this was his speech. You never give up, no matter what you want out of this life, I hope you get everything that you want. But you never give up, keep going.
Starting point is 03:37:28 Not even all some preaching shit. I just want you to, this might be the moment that you need to hear. And the biggest thing I can say to you is I didn't get here by being a piece of shit. I didn't get here by being a snake. I didn't get here by being a dickhead. I got here by being good to people, being nice to people, and my karma is straight. That's why I'm still on stage in 2025.
Starting point is 03:37:50 Trust me. And I appreciate you always supporting me. You always being there for me. I love y'all. I don't have no jokes tonight. I usually tell a joke or some shit, but tonight it's no jokes. It's just love.
Starting point is 03:38:04 I appreciate you so much. I'm working on this album for y'all, Iceman. We got a lot to talk about trust me. All my dogs that were. on the front of the night my big dogs doing their thing i appreciate you that's dope man you know i think drake is being honest with his fans um and i think deep down he realizes that you know he's never expressed this to me he's always was jovial having a good time but i do believe that this battle brought him to a very low place like we're all humans i you know i've had really tough days online
Starting point is 03:38:43 and i was brought to really low places and it was always you guys who kind of picked me up it was always you guys like you know when read my messages you always guys you told me really good positive things you guys checked on me and i think the same with drake i think drake is really appreciative of his audience yeah i always told you how drake's audience was always weird it's like y'all for me like there was a time you guys just usually just make fun of me right and it was never until i'm attacked that you guys like oh hold on now yeah it's not it's not a nigga now oh hold on we could we could get them jokes all but hold on now bitch ass thing it's the same thing with drake drag drag fans are usually like they have fun at his expense to right like most drake fans they they'll laugh at him
Starting point is 03:39:23 about maybe someone's clothing choices or the duck lips or whatever the cases but they love drak's music it is what it is but it isn't until they realize that the person that they like and the person that represents them to certain extent some people want not around like people want to be done yeah his fan base definitely has defended him i look on twitter his fans are activated You get what I'm saying? And they are shit. They could be just like Barb's in a sense. And I think Drake does appreciate that because he doesn't ask for it.
Starting point is 03:39:56 He doesn't direct nobody to do anything. But he knows his fans are rocking with him because they care about him. So I think that's why he's speaking like that. And again, you know, I think his album should be more focused on his journey, not necessarily no other person. Okay. Chat, did you see this man? Tori Lane's Meg, the.
Starting point is 03:40:16 Stallion, this shit won't ever, ever end. It's now coming down that Tori Lane's got to pay to cover Megda Stallion legal fees after a chaotic deposition. Now, this is the same case I told you that they served me a subpoena for. I'm not a defendant. I am not a plaintiff. And neither is Tori. Tori is, even though he's the subject of one of the allegation or the biggest allegation. The allegation is that Meg the Stalian believes that Torrey Lanes instructed Milagro to defame her or paid her to make defamatory statements against her or something of the sort.
Starting point is 03:41:02 And Malagro is another blogger. So in that they are deposing and trying to find evidence to continue with a civil lawsuit for defamation and they deposed Tory Lanes. Tori Lanes is behind bars He doesn't have much of a choice You know You all they got to do is serve you with a subpoena You can't really duck it when you're just in a cell Niggins is like come to your cell block
Starting point is 03:41:26 And throw that shit in there like It is what it is Um So they're saying that Tori is now being ordered To pay Meg legal fees Now by the way this is interesting Because like a couple of weeks ago Or like a week ago
Starting point is 03:41:39 They said that the blogger Milagro was ordered to pay Meg $5,000 for legal fees Now here's the thing. Rock Nation, they're on some Cardi B shit, even though I think the Cardi B, Tasha K thing, was much more serious. Tasha K literally claimed that Cardi B had a incurable STD that she had zero proof about and also made very, you know, she not even alleged. She claimed that Cardi B may have even passed on diseases to her newborn kids.
Starting point is 03:42:11 And these were diseases she would have caught during sex with whoever, whoever. obviously to speculate about somebody's sexual, you know, um, health and all these other things and say definitively, especially on a platform multiple times after being asked to remove it. That's why she was, she's actually lost her lawsuit and she was ordered to pay millions of dollars. And that's why technically it's hard for her to own anything.
Starting point is 03:42:37 Meg the Stallion is taking kind of the same approach. Meg the Stallion, along with Rock Nation, they're wasting a lot of money if you ask me, because they're using one of the top legal firms in the United States, which is billing thousands per hour, to try to hammer home this point that you can't fuck with Meg, right? And obviously, Tory's serving time, but they're trying to punish this blogger because they feel this blogger defamed Meg.
Starting point is 03:43:06 Again, I don't know the extent of what she said. I do know certain things are protected and not defamatory. Like, for example, if I say that Meg's music sucks, can't sue me for that. If I say Meg is not attractive, which I'm not saying that's what I believe, but just to say, if I said that, can't sue me for that. You know, unless I really got, like, really harassing in this and third, I'm digging into a personal life, which I think they did accuse Milagrov. It's hard to sue people for shit. Anyway, the point of what I'm trying to say, they're getting petty in this lawsuit because they want to drain this blogger's resources and teach a lesson. Okay. So, court-to-court documents obtained by complex.
Starting point is 03:43:47 The reason for Torrey Lane's new bill is relieved to me because of how he acted during a court-ordered Zoom deposition on April 9th. Instead of calmly answering questions, Tori is said to have interrupted Meg's lawyers and insulted one of them by begging for her to comb her hair. So apparently, Tori was like, yo, listen, before you ask me that question, you got to call me here. By the way, we got to get that video of Tori in the deposition. You got to be hilarious. Tori's behavior interrupted the deposition, which lasted an hour, according to court documents. Afterwards, Meg's legal team filed a motion that same month asking why the singer shouldn't be held in contempt due to derail in the deposition. Despite the residing judge, given lanes until 30 to respond, he didn't. So apparently, there was a motion to say, we feel like he fucked up the deposition.
Starting point is 03:44:30 He should pay us. They asked for Tori to respond. I'm pretty sure Tori doesn't give a fuck about a civil case. He's trying to get out on a federal case. And he didn't respond. So now the judge signed an order to say that Tory has to pay. Now they're saying the next time he's in a deposition, the magistrate will be so, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 03:44:50 Okay, so now he's ordered to pay for the legal fees of them waiting their time. And he's going to be ordered to do another one. And the magistrate judge will be supervising to ensure he doesn't act out again, supposedly. Meg's team is also seeking for the court to assign a special master to oversee his future testimony, and they want lanes to pay for it. So they want Tory to pay for someone to monitor him during the next deposition. Meg's latest legal victory comes a week after Malago Grams was ordered to pay $5,000 to cover her attorney fees, which is the fees of Meg. Again, Meg don't need $5,000, but anything to punish this blogger who Meg felt did whatever to her.
Starting point is 03:45:31 Federal judge in the case ordered Grams, whose real name is whatever, to pay the fees incurred by the rapper's lawyer force in the disclosure. of the text as well as potential evidence. Apparently they had asked for some text messages. She never given them up. And it became so, you know, a lengthy process. They are requiring her to pay for the time the lawyer spent to get those messages. Megan announced in a statement that why she was a sullabler, who she referred to as a mouthpiece for Lanes.
Starting point is 03:46:01 She says, it's time to hold bloggers accountable for years of harassment, cyberbullying and the publication of misinformation about my personal and professional life. I've endured countless attacks on my character based on false narratives from social media bloggers misrepresented themselves as journalists. It's unacceptable behavior and these individuals need to understand there will be repercussions for recklessly posts and lies and defamatory falsehoods. Again, we will say. We will see.
Starting point is 03:46:28 So Meg's strategy here is to hopefully get this blogger to go bankrupt. I highly doubt she really wants money from her. I think she wants to exhaust her resources and probably have. her settle for something like you'll never cover Meg again in life and probably issue an apology public I don't know I don't know but Meg's over here really doing the most huh all right again you know I've said publicly I just don't think this will work and what I mean work it won't work to help make or drive home the point that Meg's a victim Meg's career will never recover to where it needs to be
Starting point is 03:47:11 if she is seen as some woman that allegedly framed a guy and then took all these legal remedies to try to shut people up. I think she needs to have an honest conversation. It doesn't have to be with any of the bloggers involved. She needs to talk to somebody because I think people look at her as a liar. That's just what it is. People look at you as a liar. And if you're thinking about your career recovering
Starting point is 03:47:37 from maybe some of the social media chatter about what they feel you've done this and third what you need to do is to be honest and you need to speak to people and not just use your lawyers as bullies or rock nation but who am i to tell her what to do okay all right what else what else people what else oh okay yeah let's do this so there is this now there's a new allegation coming out where people believe that they have found the new cooperant in the
Starting point is 03:48:34 OTF case. Now this case obviously involves murder for hire. The OTF cases you don't know, they're claiming that under the direction of Dirk Banks, he ordered a group of five other men to carry out and commit a murder against supposedly it was going to be Guando Rondo
Starting point is 03:48:53 but the incident and the shooting took the life of his cousin, whose name was Lil Pop. He got arrested subsequently for murder for hire along with other people, and people have been trying to figure out who is the snitch. Now, in this case, I've reviewed it extensively. I've told you guys there's definitely cooperants. And by the way, because of how the case is set up, there's nothing that we've seen in the indictment as a smoking gun that shows that little Dirk has said anything on a wiretap,
Starting point is 03:49:20 has texted anything that's completely like, you know, self-snitching or anything that's there where he's just caught dead to rights. So what this charge would be is that people who would be cooperating against him, who would be cooperating against him? Well, the people who either paid for the trip, people who did the murder or people who were the middleman who got the people to do the murder, they would be able to tell on the Lourke.
Starting point is 03:49:43 So the new person who they're now claiming is the cooperant is someone named OTF Vani. Now, we talked about Vani. Vani was the guy who was on the plane, the private jet, that came from Miami to LA. Now, allegedly, they got this jet. Afterwards, they realized that Quanderana was in L.A., but they got the jet. Dirk was on the jet.
Starting point is 03:50:05 Vani was on the jet. If you don't know who Vani is, I'll refresh your memory. OTF Vani, King Vaughn, and they were at, what's the name of that, jewelry spot, Icebox. Vani was the guy when, when, this is Bonnie here. When Vaughn was at Icebox getting the O Block chain, you, for all the homies, Vonny was the guy right next to him
Starting point is 03:50:32 that was trying to haggle and trying to make sure he didn't get finesse, which people would be like, that's a good homie because he's, you know, trust me, when you got money and, like, you're new to this, like, you also try to not look broke. And that's how they finesse you a lot of times because you don't haggle, right? Like when you broke, you'd be haggling. When you're rich, you're kind of like, oh, no, if I haggled, it might look like I'm broke.
Starting point is 03:50:51 but this guy who's Vaughn's best friend was like nah he ain't paying that he ain't doing this look you're the big boss oh no she's so this is Bonnie this is King Vaughan She just does international sales This is our That's the big boss
Starting point is 03:51:08 That's the big boss how are you Yeah Now if we go back to that video Icebox King Vaughn You're going to notice In that video There is a lot of of um there's a lot of conversation come out boy guys or vaughney is like haggling
Starting point is 03:51:32 again this is vawny on the right but i never see my law on the sloth because she had a viz before okay here's him trying to haggle you know for for for vaughan a lot of people said yo vawny was a real niggum because he's trying to make sure his man doesn't get finessed Remember he died in 2020, so I think this was 2019 or something like that. No, actually it was 2020. This was a couple months before he died. You know, that's why it was pandemic masked up. So that mean you're giving us to watch for how much?
Starting point is 03:52:10 So you see him kind of conducting business. He's trying to make sure Vaughn don't get finesse. A lot of people said he had a lot of love for Vaughn. And that's why people actually believe that he was one of the people who would be with the quote quote slide in for vaughn because vaughn was this guy and yo your guy get killed you should be one of the shit muwop and them got sent to jail he would be one of the guys who had a real close tied to vaughn however you look at it yeah so you just give us the watch for five then and then you just keep the earrings we don't want them earrings no that makes sense don't apparently he was also
Starting point is 03:52:46 consider the manager or like the road manager because a honey k track is was the manager as well for for king bond oh look at the same so how much you tell me the earrings was those are look at the back no how much are you said okay the back the back says 600 okay so that mean you're giving me for 5500 like I said yes and flash facts come on how you know coming out of the car scene like that and how much do you say you want to do you I can sell for any no trades.
Starting point is 03:53:18 70 cash? No. Wiretrain? See, each I said, he said 80. He said, 89. What about 70? You know, Vaughn keeping it chill? Yeah, because of the do.
Starting point is 03:53:29 70 in the parking lot? No, man. 30 right now. You got two and a half care of each one. Man. It's wheeling and dealing. Now, a lot of people said this guy is a solid guy. They actually said he was the most,
Starting point is 03:53:45 the least likely niggins the snitch of the group. However, we're now hearing rumors that he's the one who told, allegedly, right? Now, let me break down where these rumors are coming from. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Give me a second. People get this.
Starting point is 03:54:04 They're saying the rumors about him telling came from... Hold on, I'm about a fire. What did they say? Can't from? I see one of the Chicago drill pages I follow They're asking a shot of it Maybe not
Starting point is 03:54:30 Alright let me find it again Maybe it's on the Chicago Wave I think that's what it is right Chicago Wave underscore The Chicago Wave On the score Okay Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see
Starting point is 03:54:55 Let's see let's see Let's scroll down, scroll down It posted a few days ago And essentially, I'll give you the, you know, too long to read version is just that a lot of the guys that was associated with OTF, they all start posting pictures and they put a rat emoji over Vani's face, right? It says, Little Dirk, co-defendant, OTF Vani confirms he wants to take a plea deal. This is my jail number. I need to get in contact. Send me a message here, inshallah.
Starting point is 03:55:29 I'll call you this week just now, able to get a real. everything on point love so long as it's okay do you have the situation under control say k grad yeah i'm trying to plea out to 32 to a 32 which is the base for murder god damn you know chat that just sounds crazy trying to plea out to 32 years oh my god it's a base of murder uh oh oh which is the base for murder for hire the max is 43 which is life two points for the plea, one point for early plea, and two points for no background. 27 is five to seven years. Hopefully it's better than that.
Starting point is 03:56:18 I can't go to trial. Might get an elbow. Don't want them to do me like them other boys. So it looked like he's saying, he's thinking about a plea. It says, you got under control if you take a plea. Everyone else has to take a plea. because accept the responsibility means you're telling what your role was in it
Starting point is 03:56:37 but you can come home tomorrow if you let them know about Vaughn what what the hell what the hell what the hell what the hell god damn wow I don't know if that's a real text too though
Starting point is 03:57:04 so let's just say allegedly for now that's crazy playing out to 32 years is ridiculous let me just find some more details about it OTF funny Sorry Okay
Starting point is 03:57:21 Now somebody whose name is Nut FR FR FR I don't know who that is Let me Google it Nut Nott underscore FR FR Who is that?
Starting point is 03:57:39 They're saying this person Is down with OTF supposedly That's what they're saying Everything that's hard That you think hard in your head I'm a
Starting point is 03:57:52 Okay, does he have pictures with anybody? Like, I don't know, they're saying he's like, oh. Said, Free my brother, Dirk and rest in peace D thing. I hate to see I'll go through this. I guess people are calling him an affiliate. But at the end of the day, it looked like he's doing some cash app scam. So I don't know, bro. Who do flyers?
Starting point is 03:58:22 I need a pool party. I'm outside. I don't know if we want to listen. to me selling weed for 80 bucks i don't know is that a college party okay i don't know if this is the the o t of affiliate we need to be listening to but fine whatever they're saying that he filed a protective custody order people are saying he was accused of taking 20k from King Vaughn's deposit box after his death
Starting point is 03:59:07 Who covers Chicago these days? Somebody else posts it? No, this is a nut guy. Look like the nut guy is the only person who is... Who the fuck is Vanya? Y'all on this bitch loose. That's why I don't like going to lie, y'all. Somebody says his sister-in-law accuses Vani of ratting.
Starting point is 03:59:31 Who's his sister-in-law? Super hot shopper. Let's see who that is. Super hot shopper. Who is this? Oh, wow. Oh, is this D-thing's, like, lady? D-thing is Little Dirk's brother.
Starting point is 03:59:56 So I guess that would be, you know, Dirk's sister-in-law. Wow. I guess if she commented, that gives it a little bit more credence. I guess she would know a little bit more, right? But also, you know, these people could just be speculating. They could just be speculating.
Starting point is 04:00:16 Hmm, interesting. Let me go back. Let me see. Somebody on YouTube must have some shit about this. OTF Vaughny. Hey, yo, yo, yo. It's your boy, King Yellow. Man, I see all OTF members, man, posted, man.
Starting point is 04:00:58 OTF Vonny, Avani. They put it right over this picture, man. My thing be this. Who fault do it be when you allow, a German German, a nerd in your circle. I'd be tired of people always blaming the rat, even though, yeah, it's the rat fault, but that's just like food, like I always say.
Starting point is 04:01:22 Well, hold on, Trent's news be having it. You want to support me? I want to appreciate all love support. A lot of angry people out here that's just killing people, man. So if you got nieces and nephews, kids that's out here running the streets, robbing people, shooting people, killing people on the internet, claiming hats, disrespecting the dead, make sure you get them life insurance and in fact i brought you help man
Starting point is 04:01:43 contreo sanders it's a life insurance agent with plinum life insurance you can go to smash that light button so this video can get around if you got twitter tick to ticot redid twitch facebook market basu hook it up all right child so first story we're going to get into is o tf vani cooperating with the feds against le dirk and the other o'tf defendants for the murder for hire of lupap um and beverly hills they currently is locked up. Now, the allegations against Bonnie is that he paid for the murder for hire. He flew on the plane with Liddark. He paid for the cars.
Starting point is 04:02:19 And he paid for the hotel rooms with the OTF credit card. Lerdirk is being accused of orchestrating with him. OTF D.D.D. is being accused of hiring the shooters. The four guys, the five guys that came from Chicago on the airplane. So that's what D.D. is charged for it. paying those guys so viny is cooperating and viny been cooperating what since november he decided to cooperate and i'm going to show y'all the text message where he texting um this person telling them that he um he decided to cop out because he's not fin to get life he's breaking it down if you've been
Starting point is 04:03:01 to the feds you're going to be able to break this down on the time that he's talking about and you would be able to tell what type of deal that this that uh o t fanny decided to do with the feds now viny he got a lot of leverage man and when i tell you he got a lot of leverage he has a lot not only is the quando rondo lopap situation is bad for dirt a lot of people keep on saying too oh swipe you hate little dirt no i'm just reporting bro hey look they hit me up i'm a big news channel i'm in the trenches they hit me up the gang members the civilians They hit me up with information. Family members, close people close to your homies.
Starting point is 04:03:41 They hit me up and tell me. I just report about it. Feed my family. So to all you haters, beat it. Hey, but anyways, now, Oteevvani, he got leverage over all the whole play on Little Dirk. Now, we all know they won't Lid Dirk. They've been bucking for Lid Dirk. He'd had four, five bonds, and they still got him up in there.
Starting point is 04:04:03 Now, this is their way to nail L Lid Dirk. Why how will look, Dirk, um, get nailed all Vani words. Hey, but look. Vani would be the plug to nail Dirk. Now, here's the thing. And, and I want to go back to, you know, because I like to be very factual. I like to be very factual here, people. Um, I like to be very factual.
Starting point is 04:04:27 This text message thread, let's get back to it. Um, O T.F. Vani. Okay. So this text message thread doesn't say. as much as we think it does. I know he says he wants to plea out. Here's the thing. If he's talking about the murder minimum, right?
Starting point is 04:04:51 What is the mandatory minimum for murder for higher federal? Right? Well, there's death. So there's death. So it was going to be 20 years in prison. If there's no death. No, no, actually, no, never mind. if the victim is injured 20 years, if the victim has killed its life.
Starting point is 04:05:25 I don't know. Anyway, here's the point. The point is this. If this is him and he's texting like this, right? If this is Oteyavani, which I think his real name is Kavon Grant, right? If he's texting like this, this doesn't say he's snitching, though. I'm going to tell you why. Because when you cooperate with the government in federal,
Starting point is 04:05:48 court, you get what's called a 5K1 letter for your cooperation at the end of the cooperation. The judge is bound to mandatory minimum sentence guidelines. You cannot go below it unless you snitch. When you snitch, he could do whatever. So there's a downward departure and they could do whatever. So I believe murder for hire when it involves death, it's life. Instant life. There's no, there's no wiggle room.
Starting point is 04:06:14 It's life. Okay. Life or death, but they didn't go for the death. penalty here. So it's life. Now, here's the thing. Obviously, maybe they could have this guy plea out for some other shit or some associated shit, right? And maybe that's what he's talking about. But if he's snitching, he would be snitching for not 32 years. He would be snitching for maybe five years or 10 years. Why? Because. Because a judge has the discretion to go below everything.
Starting point is 04:06:52 So there's no base. So that's the point I'm trying to say. If he's saying I'm trying to plea out and there's a base for what I'm trying to play out for, that doesn't actually say he's snitching. Because if he snitches, he gets a 5K1 letter and the judge will have the power to say, you're free tomorrow. The judge wouldn't say that, but has the power to do it. so I know people are taking these text messages and him saying a plea deal to mean he's snitching
Starting point is 04:07:23 but that doesn't mean he snitching you know what I mean? Also that this protective order isn't for snitching they wouldn't put that would be a sealed document like like a lot of people are misinterpreting really stupid shit and they're like think about it you think the feds would just put in plain text we're putting up a a order of protection on this fucking defendant that all you stupid, dumb criminals could go try to kill him or kill his family? No, if they were going to mention him cooperating before trial, they would seal the document. No one would see it. So this idea, like a protective order in these cases is a protective order of information,
Starting point is 04:08:10 which usually bounds the defense attorney and also the defense. themselves that whatever you see and discover, you cannot share, right? Because it might involve other investigation. It might involve sensitive information about the victims. They put order of protections in, I interviewed Drew Finland. They put order of protections in every single case. And Diddy's case, it was an order of protection as well about the information. They put two of them. And one of them, they were asked to try to cite both sides because they say he, They leaked a video and they're leaking anonymous statements. So, an order of protection in court in these indictments
Starting point is 04:08:55 is only about the sensitive information that's in discovery and information that's privyed only to the defendants and the defendant's attorney. People, you've got to stop, listen to some of these non-read-in Chicago niggies with all due respect to them. They will tell you anything. They told us OTF Jam was the fucking snitch. now they stopped telling us that now they're making up another guy i'm not saying that
Starting point is 04:09:18 o tivani's not telling what i'm telling y'all is that this isn't making all the way sense oh he texted talking about a plea well he if he's snitching he wouldn't be saying i want to get 27 years he would be saying i'm hoping to tell and the judge could let me out in whatever time he wants to give me. Because there's no mandatory minimums when you snitch. There is when you don't. This guy is talking about mandatory minimums.
Starting point is 04:09:55 It's 32, but I get points to this. Da-da-da-da. Okay, that doesn't sound like snitching. What's the next thing? Order of protection, that's about the discovery. The next thing they're going to say is, well, you can't really look him up in BOP.gov, which is,
Starting point is 04:10:12 you know, he's not in federal custody anymore. That's, that's... So let's look him up. Let's look at one. Located an inmate. We're going to locate an inmate by Not inmate's final inmate. His name is Kavan Grant.
Starting point is 04:10:31 Kvon Grant. Okay. Not in BOP custody. I've heard people say this on Clubhouse and it's one of the dumbest shit I've heard too. Not in BOP custody. Anybody I've heard Wack say this to it and I disagree with Wack. So I don't want you to think I'm ducking smoke with Wack.
Starting point is 04:10:50 This does not mean he snitching, not in BOP custody from what I've heard. It doesn't, it could, it could mean he's housed in a resident jail that isn't completely feds. Okay. So there are some federal inmates that are not in, in a federal jail. Doesn't mean they're telling. He's clearly an inmate because here's the thing, and this is what I'm saying, niggas be stupid. If they're trying to hide him, why would they even bring this up? Don't they think that the Nimwits of the world would be like, well, we found him, but it says not in custody.
Starting point is 04:11:31 He clearly is still an inmate. He has a register number. They're just saying the Bureau of Prisons, which is a federal bureau, which has certain jails and certain places, he's not under their control. Doesn't mean he's telling. again I'm not saying he's not but like people are so eager to try to create snitches and again if somebody got some real intel let me know but I'm gonna be honest with you
Starting point is 04:12:03 I'm actually saying this is bullshit I'm saying this is bullshit and I'm actually surprised some of these guys are actually letting this happen or not clearing this up because I think you know shit I can imagine people who like Dirk or some street nigga might try to hurt him or his family if there is someone snitching
Starting point is 04:12:26 put it like this And this is another thing, too. If he was snitching, right? They would quickly remove him out of this indictment, quickly. Again, I'm not saying he's not snitching, but we just got to be a little bit educated. I'm not going off of a couple screenshots. This is not enough for me.
Starting point is 04:12:53 For me personally. But, you know, let the streets just do what they do. He had got on the plane, Vani could tell him what happened And then the time stamps from the phone Also I'll be honest with you A lot of YouTubers They're eager to make content
Starting point is 04:13:10 And jump ahead of the gun Oh this guy snitching This guy snitching And I've seen Not so much trenches news or whatever But I've seen a lot of these guys Make these assumptions And when they're wrong
Starting point is 04:13:20 They act like they never said it You know Like I'm not saying I'm the greatest legal mind But you got to know what y'all are reading and y'all got to know what y'all are interpreting because y'all audience are depending on y'all for real shit at this point if you ask me there is no if anything i'm taking away from this vawny probably has looked at with his lawyers the discovery and says we're fucked they probably
Starting point is 04:13:55 saw the real cooperants and said we're fucked i'm not taking this shit to trial i'm not getting take aid. I'm going to plea out. And whoever is texting them and saying, well, listen, if you go plea out and if that's what you're thinking, make sure everybody going to play out too. On digital footprint is going to be able to cooperate what OTF Vani is saying that Liddirk did or what they did before and who they got the phone call from. Now they're in California. He could say that Lerdirk knew all he needed to say. and little dirk is done. If he said that little dirt knew what was going on,
Starting point is 04:14:37 because that's all you got to do is prove in a murder for hire case that you knew and you just as well guilty as the killers. Now, Vani got a gun charge too. He got the gun charges. So he had to buy the guns for somebody. So everybody fin to go to jail. Everybody going down. And in his text message, he said clearly that he's not fend to get an elbow
Starting point is 04:14:57 like those other guys, you know, talking about the OTF members or possibly OBLO. Nah, the tricky thing about this, he has more leverage, man. Hey, look, I know it might sound crazy. Okay, so someone has corrected me. They said that this idea, what he said, I'm trying to plea out to a 32, okay? Apparently, if we Google federal sentencing guidelines,
Starting point is 04:15:32 okay, when we Google this, There's a whole thing about it. Jesus Christ. But we could Google level 32. Apparently that wasn't years he was told about. It was levels. So the federal census guideline level 32 typically results in a sentence of 121 to 151 months. So it's 10 to 12 years.
Starting point is 04:15:56 Depending on the defendant's criminal history. The level is often associated with offenses involving in quantities of drugs or serious felonies. Okay. Let's see if we could figure out like what, what crime is. would be in that. Uh, da, da, da, duh. Hmm, well, all right. Maybe I'm wrong.
Starting point is 04:16:15 I don't know. See, I'm also open to being wrong. So if this is a, oh, so he's, supposedly he's talking about a level 32. So level 32 would be a 10 to 12 years. I'm not going to a lot of you. If he think he's going to plea out and hope to, the way it works in federal court, you've got to get the letter. It's a 5K1 letter.
Starting point is 04:16:39 If you don't get the letter, the letter. the letter comes in and it gets submitted into evidence at sentencing, only a sentencing. Okay? Your time snitching doesn't end until you get the letter. But I'm going to be honest with you. If he gets sentenced between 10, well, I think he might have a criminal history, but if he gets sent him between 10 and 12 years, he snitching, hang on love you.
Starting point is 04:17:01 Never mind. Never fucking mind. Nigel, you're in a murder for hire, and you get 10 years? Yeah, you snitch. Now, we don't know if that. The text message is real. But if he's thinking he going to get 10 years? Oh, hell now.
Starting point is 04:17:18 Mm-mm. A murder for hire? Oh, hell now. He must be thinking, remember, look, federal sentencing murder for hire guidelines. It should say life. If the person gets injured but not killed up to 20 years. If no injured death occurs, it could be 10 years. Now, it should say if there's death.
Starting point is 04:17:45 death. If the murder is carried out and the victim dies, the penalty can be either life or death is over. Like, so, hey, no, you ain't getting out of no 10. So if he's thinking he's going to get a 10, maybe that's an insinuation. So I'll correct myself. And I want to be malleable with that because, you know, I don't like this idea where I see a lot of bloggers. Like, you know what I mean, these guys are just quick to rush to say this guy's a snitch. And because they're doing it for content. right and at the end of the day Liz's wait but
Starting point is 04:18:23 again I don't know if this text message is real but if it is real it would kind of hmm anyway let me keep listening y'all man but OTF Vani man he backed the old Vine man and that's from the streets
Starting point is 04:18:46 that's for the people who know it might be new to the internet you know I might be telling you some foreign shit that you can't comprehend right now But he backed though Vine, man. He the one who got up with Quando Rondo them people, bro, and gave them the time and everything. Everybody was wondering, how did they just meet up?
Starting point is 04:19:05 You know, they say Quando them from Savannah, Georgia, right? And they was in Atlanta. What would make them meet up? And I want you out to get in the comments. How did they just meet up like that? When this person explained and this person is, you know, the closest thing that we're going to get, to Vaughn, Durkne him, and everything, man.
Starting point is 04:19:26 This person, this person is legit, fully legit, you know. And he backed old Vine, man. He gave up their low, man. They got Vine out the way. He was stealing. Then the cases with him and Durkneum, and also Durkne blame Vaughn for the shit. And they got to seal.
Starting point is 04:19:45 They blamed Vaughn them for the shit. It's been confirmed. And then they got it sealed after that. You know, Vani been slime. me the whole time he'd been stealing from vine all the situations that they're taking place we seen on the internet with vying them somebody vine accused somebody is stealing money you know it was viny who was stealing viny even von probably thought he paid for his house vani was renting viny had all the controls over the money you know these guys little dirk them vying them
Starting point is 04:20:15 they never passed high school they never graduated to the next step and when they did go to school the teachers are just passing them just for showing up. So Vani is the smart one. You know, he don't want to go to icebox, break the deals for him. He do everything for him. He the one who... Yo, Chad, I ain't going to lie to you.
Starting point is 04:20:36 Hold on. Let me talk to Graham first. Yo, Chad, I've been just seen so many lies online, but it's like what I just told Drake, don't mention niggas who's like... I've just seen some random... I've never seen these people a day in my life. But I look... Somehow it got into my mentions I never get mentions.
Starting point is 04:20:54 It was like some random YouTube I never met. They're like, you, I reported their video. I'm like, I never reported a video in my life. I don't know if I should even mention their name. I should probably just not mention their name. Because I could tell, if I mentioned their name, I remember I mentioned one bum-ass-dick name. And they made like 10 music videos about me.
Starting point is 04:21:10 When a person get murdered in Chicago, they call for their payment and he makes sure it get. They don't talk to Ludd Dirk. They talk to Vani. So Lud Dirk is knelt. Whether I want him to get in jail, which I don't care. I'm just a blogger.
Starting point is 04:21:25 But he knelt. I'm telling y'all. I'm going to show you all these text messages. And then I'm going to get back to the King Vind situation. So just bear with me. By the way, shout to the boy Drizzi, man. Drake having a good time. My boy Drizzi, man.
Starting point is 04:22:17 You know what's funny? I can't wait to Anthony Fantana does the video to tell Drake that he's racist for posting he's racist for laughing at him going through his racist thing hilarious now Jersey tapped in still Jersey tapped in hold on
Starting point is 04:22:38 I'm grand I didn't grand I know it's not me stupid I'm not going aggressive that's my man but like I'm saying who are these niggas like I don't know who this guy is all right I hate to like
Starting point is 04:22:56 I feel like the moment I mentioned somebody I feel like they're just like, oh my God, Act mentions me, 3,000 videos, but it's okay. This random person, I don't know how you got in my algorithm, I'll give you the free cloud today. I promise you this is the first time I've ever typed in your Twitter name. Brother, but I just want to be very clear, which, uh, whoever this dwee is, I've seen you tweet me.
Starting point is 04:23:24 You said if snitch ademics didn't rat you. Okay. So apparently this guy thinks, let me scroll down. I think he says that one of his YouTube videos, he's probably trashing me, right? Oh, look, academics and snitch, right? I guess he's trashed me on some YouTube videos.
Starting point is 04:23:41 There's a bunch of people who does it, right? Whoever you are, I want to be honest with you. Like, I'm really trying to have an honest conversation with you, whoever you are. I don't know which video you think that's taking out. I don't know. If you think I'm watching you, like, you're like ridiculous, right? I just want to tell you this.
Starting point is 04:24:00 By the way, hilarious screenshot of me. I want to just say this to you. I don't endorse report on anybody's page. I don't endorse that. We're all online creators. You have a family to feed. I have a family to feed.
Starting point is 04:24:20 It's okay. Your way of feeding your family is probably to hate on me on Drake. Me and Drake. It's okay. I signed up for this. It's okay. People like you exist. Whatever you're saying, this never came across my thing.
Starting point is 04:24:34 And I'm only addressing this as a YouTube creator. Because whatever hate-hater job you're doing against me, it's not that good because I've never heard of you. I'm hearing of you because I'm a creator first. I don't report niggas. Niggas take my streams and upload it. I don't report them. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 04:24:52 So I just want to tell you, whoever you are, sir, you could have a fruitful career in hating on me. I hope you make all the money you make. I don't report you, and I'm not going to, no one should report this guy. Let him hate in peace. And brother, I just want to tell you, at the end of the day, you're making YouTube videos to feed your family. I make YouTube videos to feed my family. I don't want you to stop feeding your family.
Starting point is 04:25:16 I don't want to report you. I'm not reporting you. I've never reported you. I've never seen your channel. I don't want to see the video. You're probably saying some lies. I don't care. Okay?
Starting point is 04:25:24 I just want to put that out there because I support YouTubers. And I'm only responding to this. You probably make some bad content. I get it. I'm not here to talk about your content. I'm just here to talk to you as a YouTuber. I am not reporting you. If y'all get a report and it says anything that is associated with me,
Starting point is 04:25:47 even if you're a hater, you could come to me and say, hey, Ack, you're a YouTuber, I'm a YouTuber. You know, I don't like you. I make videos hating all you, but, you know, this affected my channel or affecting whatever. Could we get it resolved? We will. We'll get it resolved,
Starting point is 04:26:02 but I'm not here. Listen, I'm living good. There's going to be a couple hate-nats nags niggas like you that's going to do what you do. Trust me. Just don't lie on me, though.
Starting point is 04:26:15 I've never reported your video. I've never seen you. Okay, as long as you do that, if you have proof, whoever you are, and I know you won't, you're not an honest guy. You're probably not an honest guy.
Starting point is 04:26:24 If you think that I reported your video, I will, see i feel like i'm giving you too much clout i would have followed you and just be like you just DM me if you actually think whatever report came from me i will go to youtube or go to whatever and tell him put the boy video back up i don't care if it's hating on me niggas make videos hating on me every day that's the difference between me and y'all y'all y'all get a little bit of criticism you're ready to i get criticism all day i'm like okay so whoever this person is could you please just don't lie on me but if you you
Starting point is 04:26:58 You do believe that I am the reason why your page is whatever. I am a YouTuber. I'm a content creator. I don't play games to try to get people axed out like that. I'm the best content creator out here. I want to squabble with all y'all. I want to go content for content. Entertainment for entertainment.
Starting point is 04:27:16 I don't want YouTube to delete y'all. I want to show y'all how over time, because I've been beating y'all ass for 15 years. I want to show y'all I could do it for another 15. I don't want YouTube to delete your page or suspend y'all. Fuck no. So if I could do anything to help you, sir, to get your page fine, if you claim is me, I want to help you. But I know you won't take this and be like, oh, you know what, even though acts a fuck nigga or I've said all these lies about him, he wants to help me.
Starting point is 04:27:41 Actually, I was wrong. He didn't do anything. You won't say that because you're dishonest. But it's okay. But if you do actually think I did something, you could email Academicsmusic at gmail.com, and you could just put something in the title that I could know it's you. and if you really think it's me or anybody on my team, I would definitely make sure it's taking care of. But it's definitely not.
Starting point is 04:28:01 You're just lying. And that's the thing. I've got to deal with lying ass niggas like you while y'all try to make a career with me, but it's all good. Anyway, I'll just digress. So what's to call? Brick, baby? Brick baby's in jail.
Starting point is 04:28:16 Anyway. All right, trenches. What he's trying to do? What are he trying to get? Because he ain't trying to get life in prison. You know, and they're telling him, hey, throw Vine under the bus. on everything. Tell them about the Vind situation. And when I mean what, when they're saying,
Starting point is 04:28:36 tell them about the Vind situation, meaning that they back those Vind, man. I know it's hard to believe like, man, why have a little dirt crash out behind King Vonn and all that? Hey, the streets will make you do it. The internet will make you do it. But the streets definitely, hey, look, well, I don't know what happened to Vind, but man, somebody better go on here and do something. You know what I'm talking about the streets. I'm making it. I don't give you how much money you is. You know, you ain't be. bigger than the trenches. You know, you could buy some people, but some people you can't buy, you know? So that's the situation, man. What are he talking about? Um, at the end of the,
Starting point is 04:29:11 at the end of that, he's saying that, you know, tell him about Vine. Dirk got a, a Drew feeling. Hey, he's going to need God damn Johnny Cochering them now. And when I say he going to need them now, he going to need them now, man. Now, here's the thing, though. I actually disagree that Dirk is cooked. I, I, I believe, unless there was a wire. I believe that unless you have Dirk dead to rights, I think Dirk could make a reasonable argument in court. All of us wanted Cuando Rondo or Lil Pop dead. Yes, I was the money man, but there is no beyond a reasonable doubt proof that I was the one who set this up. I didn't shoot nobody. I wasn't there. Y'all are my friends. Yes, I was around y'all. Yes, I was in
Starting point is 04:30:03 LA. But y'all have to prove. And here's the thing. If we're going to rely on a bunch of criminals, and again, it can be just one. Not all of these guys, these ain't choir boys. These guys got criminal acts. Some of these guys on their third strike. Some of these guys, they know they ain't never coming back home.
Starting point is 04:30:19 They know what the DA wants. Or not, yeah, well, the feds want. They want Little Dirk's head. Pause. Again, if there's a reasonable argument to make to be like, these motherfuckers are lying. They're lying You're going to need some type of proof that Dirk was in this
Starting point is 04:30:40 And we haven't heard about a text message We haven't heard about a recorded call So if we got to go on the words of a bunch of killers And a bunch of criminals Now granted If five people are saying that's the nigga who set it up The jury's about to believe it But if it's just one or two
Starting point is 04:30:59 And especially if Dirk Dirk could cook up some other guys saying, nah, I was there. He ain't say that. He has a chance. As long as there's not no dead to rights proof. Because Vani, he said that he confirmed that he's cooperating with the feds because he ain't getting life.
Starting point is 04:31:23 That mean, look, they're gone, man. That mean, little pal, mama about to get paid. That mean mama duck about to get paid. And the rest of them guys about to go. down now people asking about jam people asking about jam yeah they say that jam yeah he did tell but they say that jam told this the same person who vani texting that jam told because of um king vine being backdoe and everybody knows that king vaughn was back though you know we didn't we didn't even heard we ain't know that zoo was there i remember this one live where um it was this live
Starting point is 04:32:00 it was this live where little dirt was on life and the fans was telling him that king von is dead and they was playing crazy according to them man they all already knew you know what was about to happen they they they couldn't stand the heat that king von was bringing man he was bringing extra heat you know and then they were stealing from him everybody around them was stealing vine got a good heart that's one thing about him i can say about him he got a good heart he uh cash out everybody he used about a grown niggas weed when he was a kid when he was the kid when he was the teenager. He was buying a grown BD's weed. So I know he got a heart, you know,
Starting point is 04:32:34 giving people shoes and shit. So they were stealing from him, his own people. Vani is not Vind cousin. His daddy and silk is friends. His daddy and silk is friends. And you know, that's how Vani got. Okay,
Starting point is 04:32:49 we're going to figure out if he's ditching or what. Anyway, let's get into this whole Cardi being raw elite thing. So a couple years ago, I don't know if you guys remember, apparently Cardi B and Ra Ali, they got into a fight. Okay? Now, here's the thing.
Starting point is 04:33:06 This really stems from Cardi B running into Nikki Manaz. I can't remember where they ran to each other, but when they ran to each other, Cardi B got on live or whatever. She had a knot on her head. And the knot on her head wasn't because of Nicky Minadz. Apparently, Nicky Manaz's friend, Ra Ali, Rashid Ali, supposedly threw something or put hands or did something,
Starting point is 04:33:30 to Cardi B. Now, Cardi B, you know, obviously she don't like Nikki, but she's been waiting to see this woman. Apparently she did run into her later on, and she got her lick back, supposedly, but it was in like a France airport or something like that. And, by the way, this was a knot on her head
Starting point is 04:33:52 from the initial thing, and I think this was at the Harper Bazaar, like, you know, party, right? and essentially she claimed that she got her get back at her when she saw her in the airport years after and she said that Ralee stared her down in the airport. Cardi started the argument. Ali dismissed the rapper telling her to grow up. Cardi claimed she threw a JBL portable speaker at her head and Cardi is explaining it below. Check this out.
Starting point is 04:34:26 In the line. I'm getting I'm getting checked. I'm in the line. my thing is about to go through TSA and whatever. And I turn around and I literally see this woman. She's in a wheelchair and she looked like in distress or something. Like she's like she looked in distress. So I looked at her.
Starting point is 04:34:44 I couldn't even believe my eyes because I feel like I've been waiting for this moment for a long time. I could even believe my eyes. And I can't believe I'm in France. And this is happening all there and then. So this woman is in a wheelchair and I look. at her and I said, you good? And she said, I don't feel well. And I'm like, oh, okay. So then I told my security and let me tell you something about my security. I know that you guys see him in pictures. I know what you guys think. But me and my my security with my security already for like
Starting point is 04:35:17 six years. And like my security is a big grip. You know what I'm saying? So his opinion to me matters. Not even his opinion, but it's like I would never like to look pussy in front of my security because I feel like if I do some pussy shit I know my security going to be like bitch you're pussy because that's the type of relationship that we have so I but I did I told my security right you're carty that's the wrong security to have I hire security to look pussy. You know somebody remind cardy this is why you hire security to look pussy to be like yo I'm pussy you handle that. I'm like, yo, this chick is right behind me.
Starting point is 04:35:59 Like, she's like, he's like, oh my God. Like she's in a wheelchair. So I asked him, what should I do? Because at the end of the day, we are in France. And you know what? It would have been really easy for me to just snuff her in a wheelchair. But I'm like, yo, what should I do? Because we're in France.
Starting point is 04:36:19 And I'm about to, we in cons and I'm about to fly to Paris. to shoot my album concert and everybody's waiting for me. But either way so, we are in France and we're going to go to jail. So he was like, you know what? Let's catch you upstairs in the lounge because the TSA that we went to is a TSA that you go through and then you go upstairs to a private launch. And you know, like, you're in a private launch. You could go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 04:36:43 You could do whatever the fuck you practically want in the lounge. So I'm like, I, that's where I'm a catcher. That's what I'm going to pop it off. That's she planning. So. And yes. I know that I'm grown. I know that I'm growing and I shouldn't have them into.
Starting point is 04:36:58 Oh, Barty, you, yo, yo, you big blood from the Bronx, nigga. The fuck. Big bloods, nigga. Big bloods, nigga. Come on, man. Go ahead, body. Well, let's be fucking for real. If I wouldn't have said nothing and if I would have been an adult,
Starting point is 04:37:13 she would still would have came online. It would have been like, oh, I saw Cardi B and she didn't do nothing. She's pussy. And on top of that, I don't care what it is. You're secure. No, your friend's security and you attacked me. Y'all grabbed me. No, the security grabbed me and you attacked me.
Starting point is 04:37:35 And if you thought it was going to let that shit fly, you're out of your fucking mind. Like, I can't die on this earth. I can't live and die knowing that somebody put their hands on me and I never did nothing back. Like, bitch, I'm from the Bronx, you're from the Bronx. You know what's up. So then, so anyways, I'm on the line.
Starting point is 04:37:53 and I'm winning because I know she has to go upstairs to the launch and we're going to the launch and it's like, all right, that's what we're going to handle our business because I know she's aware that we in cons and I'm aware that I'm in cons. Like, ain't nobody trying to go to jail. So I'm on the line and now I see that she's set up now.
Starting point is 04:38:13 Now she's not in the world there. Now she's standing. But she's staring at me. Like she's staring at me. Like literally staring me. She's not getting her eyes off of me. So now I'm already thinking to myself like, it's like, fuck it.
Starting point is 04:38:24 Like, it is what it is. We have about to fight right now because she, she, she looking at me like she wanted. So that's when I start arguing with her and like, I start arguing with her. And she's just telling me like, you need to grow up, like, be for real, grow up. So that's when I threw a JBL speaker on her head. And she said, you feel better by yourself. And then she's like, she's acting like, now she's going to fight. But she wasn't being like aggressive.
Starting point is 04:38:48 She was like, oh, though, okay, now. Because I guess she was sick. I don't know what was wrong with her. So then I guess her, my security is like, all right, like now he's in between both of us, because now the police is really coming. Like, they're really rushing to the part of the airport. And she was saying, you feel good now? Like, you good?
Starting point is 04:39:07 That's what you wanted? And I kept saying, yeah, that's what I wanted. Of course I'm going to get my leg back. And you know that I'm not lying because she practically saying it herself. I don't know why you said that I was throwing a shoe. And why are you not saying that you got hit in the head with your, whatever. But you know what, whatever. At the end of the day, you know I'm not lying because even herself said,
Starting point is 04:39:27 you thought it was going to get my leg back? I wouldn't have said that if it was just me arguing with her. I wouldn't have said that if a shoe went flying somewhere. You know I said, you got, you know, you know, I said I got my leg back because you got hit. And you know what? I'm good. I wish we could have, like, fight and like, yeah, you're right. I wish you could have fight to the end
Starting point is 04:39:52 because I need to, I need to die knowing I need to die knowing that I don't give a fuck how old we are but at the end of the day, that was good enough of me like, that was good enough of me. Yo, Cardi's a ratchet to the core, man. She said I needed to die
Starting point is 04:40:09 knowing that I threw something at you. I honestly cannot believe that you came online and talk about that because that's kind of embarrassing. It's kind of embarrassing, but you know what? I guess. I guess it's good traction, good story.
Starting point is 04:40:24 It is what it is, though. And I'm glad. And you know what? Now that I got my leg back and you hear me and I hit you, fuck it. You know what I'm saying? Like, it is true. Like, we are older.
Starting point is 04:40:38 We are mothers. You're in your 40s. I'm in my 30s. But I wasn't going to let you go back and report to your boss and say that I ain't do shit. Oh, that was Nikki? Oh, man. Where did Rod Lee like give her side? She never gave her side?
Starting point is 04:41:03 Where did the Rod Lee address it? Oh, here we go. I'm not sure if you even know of the history between, um, uh, Cardi B and I. I'm not sure if you have, if you even know. Now, can you tell me the Cardi thing? Yeah. Of course, of course. So I'm going to tell the story backwards just so that.
Starting point is 04:41:21 I can't wait to hear it. Okay, okay. So recently I went to Cannes for the Lions Festival. Yep. It was for, for work. Um, a lot of people. people coming to town, business people, entertainers. And it's a positive situation all around.
Starting point is 04:41:39 So I'm leaving. I'm by myself. And, you know, I'm in the wheelchair. Why in the wheelchair? At the airport. I didn't feel well. You was also trying to get through security quick, too. I do it tomorrow.
Starting point is 04:41:52 Sometimes you got to do what you got to do when you're behind my s' let's go. So I'm not feeling that good. I really genuinely had a cold. I did a virtual appointment with a doctor and, you know, got a Z-pack. Oh, it was serious. Yeah, I wasn't feeling that good.
Starting point is 04:42:05 Yeah, so, you know, I'm going through security. I'm sitting there and being pushed. And I look ahead of me and there's no one else there, just Cardi. Oh, since this is recently. This is the other day. Yeah, because I talked to you before you telling me he was going to camp. Oh, this is, okay, cool, okay. This is me leaving from France.
Starting point is 04:42:25 Yep. So I see her ahead of me. And she's. What are you thinking, if you don't mind me asking? What are you thinking? I can't even say what I was thinking. I don't even, I think more so I was thinking, oh, God, you know, like. Not right now.
Starting point is 04:42:41 Yeah, oh, boy, that's usually, you know. And she has like a red dress when I'll show you the video because I definitely took my phone out immediately and I just press record. That's that media smartness, boy. Yeah, I took my phone out. I pressed record. And I'm like, just chewing a bagel. No, Cardi with the hand on the hip? Oh, nah.
Starting point is 04:43:02 with smoke. She's standing there and they roll me right here and she's standing right there where that TV monitor is. So I'm just sitting there and I'm just looking. She doesn't, she doesn't see me yet. Okay, perfect. So she's chewing and then she turns and she looks. And she's like, what's wrong with you? I say nothing. My assumption, because I'm not going to put something out there that I'm not sure about is that it didn't click on her in her. head possibly when she first saw me that it was me. Maybe because I'm in a wheelchair. I don't know. I don't know what was the reason. And she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, so maybe once I didn't answer her, maybe she was like, do I got problems with this person or something?
Starting point is 04:43:52 I don't know. Yeah. So, whenever it clicked on her, whenever it registered, I'm watching her, remember, so I'm looking right at her. She goes to her security and she says to him, that's, that's, Whatever she says to him. I see him lean over like this and she's telling him in his ear. So I just take, you know, like the bag that's in my lap and I just put it on the wheelchair part because I know I'm probably going to have to stand up. And he turns around and he. You're Rashid Ali, you've been on too much fucking loving hip-hop to not know.
Starting point is 04:44:26 You've been on loving hip-hop, I think. Cardi B. been on loving hip-hop. Y'all know it's on. She's a hood bitch from the Bronx. she's like big brim on all that shit she blooded up why the hell is you still sitting down Nick even if you had a rolled ankle
Starting point is 04:44:43 you had a torn ACL that's a bitch from the Bronx you should have got up and walked through TSA or get ready to scrap nigger yo Rashida Ali they could be rolling your casket through there
Starting point is 04:44:59 even if you was half dead you was transitioning you got to hop out of, yo, hold on God, hold on, my op right there, I gotta go get him. Yo, what are you doing?
Starting point is 04:45:10 What you're doing? This is a hood bitch from the Bronx. Looks and I'm just like, I'm still sitting in a chair, I'm just looking. Nah, I ain't going to lie. This makes Cardi look like a demon.
Starting point is 04:45:29 You know what's crazy? I never met Rashida Ali, but she always looked like she was bigger than most women. So it's like you know that chick that biggin' And all women So she just beat the small bitch's ass Cardi looking like she bowed it
Starting point is 04:45:45 By the way In this story Yo what are fucking Stefan Diggs Yo all set would have been there All set would have been there All set with a Bende You're all set with a Binda You're all set with a bin there
Starting point is 04:45:59 What the fuck Stefan Diggs at What that thing are doing? Sit-ups? He doing suicides? And fucking fucking practice? What are he doing? What are you doing he in the bag? What are you doing? What's going on?
Starting point is 04:46:11 So now, once she informs him that I'm there, is in five, four, three, two, showtime. You got me fucked up. You got me, like immediately she starts yelling and cursing and screaming. Oh, what's up? What's up? What, yeah. you think you thought you thought you thought you thought on the internet talk about how you
Starting point is 04:46:44 now one thing i never have done never never ever done there's not a there's not any footage of me ever going on camera and elaborating on me uh having a physical fight with someone if you there wasn't already footage to show that it happened i don't come from that world i don't care what it was i'm not going to tell you i stole a pack of cookies out the store and there's no proof. I just don't do that. I don't think it's cute. I think you sound stupid. I think anybody even admitted to something in any capacity or they don't have to is crazy. That's not my world. So there's nothing online of me ever saying, yeah, you know, ha ha, that's why I beat her up. That's not how I move.
Starting point is 04:47:23 I don't move like that. And so she was like, yeah, you're on. So I looked at her and I say, yo, you look so stupid. Because we're in France. Say we're in the airport. That's that Tiro energy right there. That's the Tira energy right there. The one-armed Tira energy. Yo, we in Tertz. What you mean we in Turch?
Starting point is 04:47:49 Niggi, wait, hold on. Wait, there's a Turks version of you and there's like a, I'm chilling back on FIG version? Wait, hold on. Wait, I didn't know. Wait, wait, what? What you mean we in France?
Starting point is 04:48:03 What that mean? Yo, Cardi be still in the Bronx, nigga? What's popping? What's popping? Yo, I think Cardi was looking at her. I might give her the past because she looked like she might be hanging on for their life. I might slap the fuck out of her. She died.
Starting point is 04:48:18 I got a murder case. I'm going down like Taked. She's over here thinking, you in France? Man, y'alli, I got to stop it, bro. Yo, Rashida Ali, I got to keep it up being with you. You in the airport? You got to bully this scene. You yo, this is how you got to do it right here
Starting point is 04:48:36 This is how you got to do it Word 2 right here This is what you gotta do This is what you gotta do I don't even know they page Oh yeah, here we go Yeah yeah This is what you gotta do
Starting point is 04:48:50 This is what you gotta do right here Yo chat I need this audio too I need this audio I need this audio I need this audio I need this audio I need this audio
Starting point is 04:49:03 Hold on on Let me see a good fun. Yeah, yeah. Chat. I need this audio right here. Man, get a shot, whatever, because now we good. Here. And that wasn't in plaid, right?
Starting point is 04:49:12 Like, it wasn't like, here we go. What's up, nigga? Here we go here. Nah, this is what I do. I go to our section by the DJ or whatever. They shot out everybody on the, then they was like, shout out DJ Academics. I'm like, DJ academics. And I told the thing on the mic, where he at?
Starting point is 04:49:26 He was like, he right there. I'm like, oh, it's movie time. It's movie time. It's movie. You know, it's a cinema. Oh, this is It's movie time Yeah, I ain't going to lie, man
Starting point is 04:49:40 This is hilarious So I go over there, you feel on me? I'm like, what's up, nigga? Oh, shit. Yo, First of all, I ain't going to lie. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 04:49:56 I think Smack the, like, is Smack like a gangster? I don't know if he's a gangster. I don't think I ever met Smack. Is he a gangster? he's the only nigga that don't seem amused do know I know he does comedy
Starting point is 04:50:08 shout to do no do know like he could tell it's so awkward he just started laughing for no reason smack was looking at him like nigga you pussy smack just smack ain't cracker smile
Starting point is 04:50:20 the whole time this is the whole problem with this the whole problem with this clip is that smack looking at him like Nick I knew you was a bitch I'm on the mic where he at he was like he right there I'm like oh it's movie time
Starting point is 04:50:32 Yo, he's not smiling. Yo, why smack not smiling? Yo, smack, we're doing content, bro. Smack. Yo, somebody tells Smack, we're doing content. Yo, smack look dumb serious. Yo, smack. Look, he's smiling.
Starting point is 04:50:47 Smiles. We all know he lying. But he's smiling. Why smack looks so sick? I go over there. Yo, he's really looking like he's, like, get to the plot. Like, he's trying to understand this shit. Yo, yo, somebody saves Smack before he go to jail.
Starting point is 04:51:09 Because Smack is really, yo, smack really thinking he's on a podcast standing on business. Yo, your co-hosts are media personalities. They're jokesters. Like, we're all playing the game. You feel me? The next time, yo, the next time you see, next time me, like, we actually, I hit T. Rell about this. The next time we link up, we're going to do this.
Starting point is 04:51:32 We will act like we're going to. fight and we're going to do this. The next time we'll act like we're about to fight then we're going to do this. Hey! Y' fun! Y' West Coast thing's got to stop acting too tough! The only thing when we're doing this, does T-Rail other arm go up?
Starting point is 04:52:11 If it don't go up, I'm going to have to lift it up for him because we got to get the choreography good. But smack, your smack looking dead serious like he really looking like he's expecting what you mean you took a shot like he's mad disappointed yo we're doing content
Starting point is 04:52:33 yo yo he's yo look how he looking that nigga looking at him like he Kendrick Lamar bro yo Tiro you my nigga I love how you capped it up listen to this me I'm like what's up nigga he looking he looking like what he put his glass
Starting point is 04:52:54 I'm like what's up nigga And he like The funny thing is Smack looking at him the whole time like Yo this bitch ass nigga line to me right now He's looking at him. He's shocked like this nigga He's fucking turks. Yo, he is giggling?
Starting point is 04:53:08 Yo, Smack ain't laugh one time. Yo, this is crazy. Yo, you can tell Smack was just like, yo, I'm really on a podcast with a ho-ass nigger. Yo, smack, he's not a whole-ass nigger. We're just content creators. By the way, I got to plug this.
Starting point is 04:53:24 Yo, chat. I'm shouting out everybody. Yo, go to the academy. That shop right now. Everybody, the academy that shop, we got the bully the scene shirts on sale right now. If you cop a shirt while we're on stream, I'm shouting you out.
Starting point is 04:53:41 We need, we got the bully the scene shirt. You're trying to be like T-Rell. Somebody told me we did drop the ball. We should have put an orange on it. That's a fact. Should have put an orange on it. Versili, we fucked up. 10% off your whole order.
Starting point is 04:53:54 Don't worry about it. Listen, the bully the scene shirt right now. If you're trying to, you're trying to see your biggest op, but you're in Turks, and you like, yo, I got my loafers on. Yo, I got on my Sunday's best. I can't really scuff it up. Loki has got to drive the boat. Now check the energy.
Starting point is 04:54:13 It's all good. Go cop the academy bully the scene shirt right about now. If you cop it right now, let me open my shirt. everybody everybody copy we shout now that's the fact sometimes when you realize that niggies is trolling you gotta make a bag off your op we did it off we just gotta make a bag of
Starting point is 04:54:36 our op I haven't go cabbage you bro you got you just gotta make a bag off your op I haven't going to lie oh okay how much shit Tareke thank you for the order that's what I'm talking about there we go
Starting point is 04:54:49 okay anyway let's hear the story they just looking at me like chocks So I bully the whole scene. I love it. I saw bully the whole scene. And he's like, he's just looking at him. He's shocked like this thing
Starting point is 04:55:05 is fucking dark. Yo, you can tell this thing is like, your bro, stop line. Yo, look at Smack's face the whole time. He's like, your, bro, stop. He's like, bro, stop. Everybody's giggling. It's like, he can't even smile at this shit.
Starting point is 04:55:21 This is too much cat. Shout out DJ Academians. I'm like, DJ. academics and I told trash-ass white bitches, weak-ass dirty-ass you feel-me? I'm like, what's up, nigga? You know, when it's two tense, you just start laughing.
Starting point is 04:55:38 You know, smack, looking at him like, why are you lying right now, bro? He looking, he's looking like, what? He put his glasses down. Like, what's up, nigga? And he's like, he's just looking at me shocked like this nigga being fucking turk. Yeah, this look right here. It's like, damn, it's fucking lying-ass nigga, right?
Starting point is 04:55:53 That's turks. He's just looking at me like, shocked So I bully the whole scene Because he just was- I bully the whole scene Ha ha ha Y'all love it And he's down like
Starting point is 04:56:02 Like what's up, nigga And he's like He's just looking at me shocked Like this nigga fucking turks That he's just looking at me like shocked So I'll bully the whole scene Cause he just listening I bully
Starting point is 04:56:13 I bully the whole scene I bully the whole scene I like it Trash-ass white bitches We guys Dirty ass me say this. Yo, I finally figured it out. Let me say this.
Starting point is 04:56:30 Yo, back on thing. I figured it out. 80, probably, I don't have 80 a gangsta like that. Let me say all that party cribs. I don't know who's a party, whatever. I don't know about that. I like 80. That's my guy.
Starting point is 04:56:43 I don't know why he went bad on me. 80, I love you still, but it's okay. You know what I realize? The only person who probably, like, been in some real shit is smack. I'm going to be honest. because this nigga, he was telling the story and he kept looking at Smack trying to get Smack to laugh. He ain't care if Duno was laughing.
Starting point is 04:57:05 He ain't care if AD was co-signing. He ain't give a fuck about pun. He kept talking, but he kept looking over at Smack to see if Smack was buying the story to see if Smack was approved him. You know what I told me? He realized them other niggies can't give him the credit he need. Smack the only nigga who could be like,
Starting point is 04:57:24 Oh, yeah, all right, yeah, you valid. You've got a little homie. So I could tell smack the only nigga over there standing on minutes. So to keep it real, smack, I'm not. Shit. I was thinking, I was thinking some old English for you, but we might, I don't know, what I might have to give for you? Hold on, anyway.
Starting point is 04:57:41 Oh, what's up, nigga? And he like, he's looking at him. He's shocked like this nigga being fucking dark. See, he's grinning. He's grinning. He got him. You know that nigga line? He got him.
Starting point is 04:57:52 This thing is turning his face up like, And he keep wiggling his leg You know when you wiggling your legs He's like man this motherfucker line He's looking at me like shocks I bully the whole scene I bully the whole scene I love it
Starting point is 04:58:09 Terts Bees just looking at me like shocks So I bully the whole scene Because he just was some trash ass white bitch He just looking at me like shocks So I bully the whole scene I need that I bully the whole scene
Starting point is 04:58:23 Tirt Me just looking at me like chock so I bully the whole scene because he just was some trash-ass white they just looking at me like chocks so I bully the whole scene because he just was some Yo chat man the bully the bully the scene
Starting point is 04:58:36 chat if you never bully the scene like T-Rill you see your op in a club you bully the scene and go drive the boat with him because he just with some trash ass white bitches weak ass dirty ass they trash you know what I'm saying they just be probably like five six dirty ass white bitches
Starting point is 04:58:51 so I'm like Dan this thing is really I'm saying he just went got some trackness you feel Let me do it. He didn't ring out. Anybody he wanted to. O'all there. Yo, chat's coming in. I ain't going to cap with you.
Starting point is 04:59:01 Yo. Hey, listen. You see, y'all niggins like T. Rell, we love when y'all bully the scene. We're going to run up a bag off your stupid ass. Yo, shout to my man. I want to say, yeah, full government up in this joint. But my man, Michael from Minnesota.
Starting point is 04:59:17 Thank you for the, you know, to purchase. You know, we bully in the scene out here, man. Shout out to T. LeMont. My boy, man. My boy out of Chicago, Illinois. Oh, shit, I got to go. Damn, okay, I see you, my boy.
Starting point is 04:59:28 Damn, I know that address. Oh, you live in the trenches, gang. Make sure nobody steal your package. We want to make sure we get there. If they steal your package, reported to me, we'll send you another one. Okay, my man from Austin, Texas. My man, Tevin, yo, appreciate you, man. Listen, if you're trying to bully this scene like my boy,
Starting point is 04:59:47 y'all got a bully the scene like him. Five, six, dirty-ass white bitches. Shock like this thing. You're right here. this is somebody. And he's like, he's just looking at me, shocked like, look, he's looking at, he's looking at smack, smack. I am not amused.
Starting point is 05:00:06 His nigg is being fucking dirty. Look, he's trying to get a laugh. He got a laugh here. Look at this nigger's face. Hey, oh, man, turks. They're just looking at me like, shocked. So I bully the whole scene because he just was some trash-ass-ass-white-bidges. We guys, dirty-ass.
Starting point is 05:00:22 They trash. You know what I'm saying? They just, he probably like, fuck. five six dirty ass white bitches. So I'm like, damn, this thing is really, I'm saying. Okay, okay, he finally got a chuckle. You feel him, he didn't, he didn't really got anybody he wanted to.
Starting point is 05:00:35 So I'm like, okay, okay, finally got a chuckle. Yeah, bitches I just for what they got to do. Like, they ain't had no ass and nothing, you know what I mean? Like, oh, get a weak ass with some ass, you know what I mean? Like, nah, look at this thing, it's smack. So I'm like, whatever, I'm bullied. I'm like, what's up, nigga?
Starting point is 05:00:50 I just look at me. And I'm like, he's just looking at me, like, shocked and I'm like, and I'm like, Yo, chat. I need everybody. Go cop a shirt right now. Listen, we're going to run it up on T-Ros. Retarded arm.
Starting point is 05:01:03 We got to run it up. If you ever seen your op in the club and you had to let that nigga know what it is, you had to bully the scene, go over to his section and ask him to drink from his bottle? Come on, man. Stop fucking playing, bro. Holy.
Starting point is 05:01:22 Yo, oh, now it's coming in. Uh, uh, Yo, oh, oh, oh, you're from Wax Hood. Ricardo, I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna, like, docks you. My boy from Pekwima, California. Good looks, you know what I mean? Slude to you, man, you know what I mean? When you in Pekoma, just make sure you rock that shirt when you're bullying the scene.
Starting point is 05:01:40 You see Wack 100 out there. I don't care who you see out there, nigga. Bullie them, just bully the scene, grab the bottle, take a shot, do what you got to do, man. You got to let niggas know. Niggas can't play with you like that. My man. Oh, Carlton. He's from Brooklyn.
Starting point is 05:01:55 Oh, that's a Brooklyn nigga a Brooklyn nigga gonna bully the scene for show. A Brooklyn nigga gonna bully the scene for show. Okay? I ain't gonna lie. Yo, if TRL is a representative of the West Coast,
Starting point is 05:02:08 perfect. Damn, the bitches that fly one way there. He's just, he's just looking at me, shocked like this nigga fucking turks. They're just looking at me like,
Starting point is 05:02:19 I gotta stop. I bully the whole scene because he just was some trash-ass white bitches. We got a dirty-ass. They trashed, you know what I'm saying? They just pee probably like five, six dirty-ass white bitches. Oh, man. So I'm like, Dan, this thing is really, I'm saying?
Starting point is 05:02:30 He just went and got some stragglers. All right, all right. We got to stop, chat. We got to stop. This is too much. It's too much. What I'm trying to say, yo, Rashida. Rashida Ali, you got to bully the scene.
Starting point is 05:02:42 What you mean? Yo, stop playing. Hold on. There we go. That's not how I move. Bullying the scene, man. And so she was like, yeah, you're like. So I looked at her and I say, yo,
Starting point is 05:02:53 you look so stupid because we're in France say we're in the airport in the airport but in France we're not in the airport in the state yes Dimitri man yo get me the I need to drop for this we're gonna do it like the Caldego we need that we need to drop
Starting point is 05:03:11 bully the scene Dimitri man I see you out of North Carolina Goldsburg man yo when you in Goldsberg and niggas try to play with you nigga make sure you got your shirt on nigga bully the fucking scene and stop playing with niggas man walk up in the
Starting point is 05:03:23 a nigga section, they can grab the bottle or ask for the bottle. You know what I mean? Bully the scene, grab the bottle, dry the boat, put it back down, go back to like,
Starting point is 05:03:32 just walking around the club like a hobo and mission accomplished. Because I actually kind of think that if it's really like that, if you feel like being like that in the States, we all know what book is, we all been in Rikers, right? Yeah,
Starting point is 05:03:46 okay. Okay, yeah, I know what my father was in there. I visited him a couple times, but yeah, you're right. Everybody knows you've been like them somewhere, Like, but locked up abroad, like the show that's on A&E.
Starting point is 05:03:56 International lawyers, all that. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. Now I'm going to keep it to being with you. Rashida Ali, hang on line. You ain't had no smoke then. I'm tired of hearing y'all talking about international law. Y'all talking about all this type of stuff.
Starting point is 05:04:12 When you put a fucking knot on her head, you wasn't thinking about no type of law. Why the hell y'all go out of country and now y'all mad civilized? Why don't y'all just bully the scene? bully the fucking scene the same way how you bullied the Harper Bazaar and put a knot on her head you in a wheelchair just because y'all in France
Starting point is 05:04:33 you can't act up what you mean I mean you don't got real beef then you shouldn't be like acting up locally so she's yelling and she's screaming and I was like while I said you know this is three kids later three kids later I've of course stood up now because
Starting point is 05:04:48 I have to stand up because I don't know what any of them Oh, shout to my boy. I'm always... Oh, shit, wait. Shout to my boy Elmo, man. My boy Elmo, you always say, oh, listen, he's from New Brunswick, New Jersey, man. Listen, Elmo, I might have to deliver that shit to you myself.
Starting point is 05:05:04 You know, I'm really up the street from that. You feel me? I got to go to... I got to go to... That's my favorite spot, Jamaican spot. Cool run-ins on Easton Ave. I got to go there anyway. I bring your shirt to you directly.
Starting point is 05:05:15 We might have to bully the Jamaican spot. Sometimes you got to bully this scene. Fuck it. The mature person at this point, because I have... too much to lose, but I'm definitely I'm definitely by nature a fighter, my heart doesn't pump Kool-Aid
Starting point is 05:05:30 and I will go down like down into my last second of breathing and I'm going to bang I'm not going to it is what it is, you know, so I really like you. Yo chat, I told you this one thing to happen, right?
Starting point is 05:05:47 Yo, so I told you this one time I'm in the airport and I'm my ex-sized shit. I'm in, I forgot where are we going? This is before, I ain't going to lie to chat. Now you ain't can't. I don't fly nowhere without security on some real shit.
Starting point is 05:06:00 Or if I'm flying somewhere without security, I'm, I check my gun in and I pick it up. I'm not, I'm not playing around with nobody. I haven't going to lie to you. Like security is the utmost of importance these days because I just realize it's like, it only take one time for a nigga to think he got the up on you. So don't even play it.
Starting point is 05:06:18 So like you when I'm going to Turks, shit. Feel me? Anyway, I'm going, I forgot where I was. I forgot where I was going. I'm going, blah, blah, but it was like a late night flight. No, I was supposed to fly from Newark. Something happened. I think we were late.
Starting point is 05:06:32 It got moved to LaGuardia. I remember I went there. Anyway, we ended up at JFK type shit. Anyway, the point is I get there, and now the rescheduled flight is like two hours later. So I'm like, they're chilling, like, whatever, the person I went. I'm like, fuck, whatever. Yo, I take an hour and a half nap. Like, like, I don't even, like, I'll be, I fly first class,
Starting point is 05:07:02 but I don't be going to them lounges and shit like that, nigga. I'm just being just chilling out, bro, like, because if a nigga want to talk to me, like, chat niggas run up to me all the time. Yo, act, yo, da-da-da-da. And I talk to y'all. I always talk to you. Like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 05:07:14 I'm not, no. If anybody ever said they met me and I acted like some Hollywood niggas, maybe I had a bad day. I'm allowed to have a bad day. but like, bro, I'm mad regular, right? So anyway, nigga, I'm just sleeping out there, a nigga, right?
Starting point is 05:07:32 Whatever, whatever. I wake up, there was a nigga in front of me the whole time. The nigga was right there, the whole time. Before I fell asleep, after I fell asleep. woke up like an hour later, blah, blah. The nigga, I see him. I'm not really paying attention, but I'm just there.
Starting point is 05:07:49 He packing his shit up. Packing his shit up. and like I think they called his flight or something so the niggins said to me so right when he when he packed his shit up whatever like he looked over to me and be like yo so you academics right
Starting point is 05:08:03 I was like yeah what up man how are you I approach everybody would like whatever and he'd be like he said to me he say oh so man you be talking that shit about baby nigga I should beat your ass right now
Starting point is 05:08:17 now I just woke up from a daze I don't know what this little niggins so I'm like what so and I think the person I was with who they weren't sleeping because I was sleeping because I'm always tired um like they kind of like tap me like that could like pay attention so I'm like what you say and he was just like man he was like you he was like yo I ain't gonna lie to you so you be talking all that shit about baby nigga like I should beat your ass right here so we get into this whole standoff it was well shit just save you out of the time.
Starting point is 05:08:58 So I'm like, all right, nigga, you have a problem. All right, what's up? Like, nigga, I'm here. I don't have no security. I'm here with a girl. What's good? The nigga says to me, you lucky we're in the airport, nigga, like,
Starting point is 05:09:13 if we was outside, I would really do it to you. But like, he's also packing his bags to go to the flight. You lucky I got to take this flight? And I'm like, my God. Like, it's another gangster telling me that he's, in the airport. He doesn't want to get put on a no-fly list. Like, where are y'all gangsters that's down to go to jail?
Starting point is 05:09:35 I don't run into those guys. I run into the people who, they're like, yo, yo, boarding ends in three minutes. I would catch a fade. I run into the most goofiest niggins on earth. That's what I'm trying to say. So, like, when I hear this, oh, yeah, we got smoke, but we're in the airport.
Starting point is 05:09:54 We don't have smoke, stupid. We're going to our flights. Just shut up. Just don't even start it. Don't start it, please. Just be like, just ignore me, record a secret video of me and type of caption. That's crazy.
Starting point is 05:10:05 It's cool. But don't tell me I would beat your ass if we weren't in the airport. And then pack your stuff up and run off to your flight. This is what this is. Yo, Rashid Ali, I like you. But is it smokers and not? Fuck if y'all in cans. Bullying a scene.
Starting point is 05:10:29 I've of course stood up now because I have to stand up because I don't know what any of them are going to do. So, you know, I'm always looking to be the mature person at this point because I have too much to lose. But I'm definitely, I'm definitely by nature. A fighter, my heart doesn't pump Kool-Aid and I will go down, like down. We don't want to hear that. Listen, we don't. Yo, I hate when people who. claim that they're whatever whatever is like yeah i'm worried about the cops i don't want to go to
Starting point is 05:11:04 you don't have a problem then this is why i won't tell people i'm gonna do nothing to them it's the people who claim they're going to do something to me i'm like why you ain't do it well we're in the airport well because the cops is right there well because to my last second of breathing and i'm gonna bang i'm not gonna is it is it is what it is you know i want to hit i really like you I just was like, girl, grow up. She's like, grow up, grow up. You think that I was just like, you look so stupid. You sound stupid.
Starting point is 05:11:36 You look stupid. You got to chill. She takes her shoes off. She starts throwing her. Oh, now we're going crazy. Holy. Oh, my God. Hey, listen, I'm shouting out all the people who's supporting right now.
Starting point is 05:11:49 Yo, shit. She from Woodbridge. You, I got so many people who fuck with me in VA. Woodbridge VA. Yo, Shorty. Oh, she ordered. She ordered like, oh, never mind. Okay.
Starting point is 05:12:02 Listen, girl, if you need me to come down to Virginia with you, you know, I've had some experience down there. You know, I've had, if you need me to come down there with you, girl, and bully the scene with you in our Woodbridge, Virginia, I'm with you. Trust, okay? Shout to you, girl. Who else? Oh, this name is tricky. Sherman Oaks, California. Where is that?
Starting point is 05:12:26 Holy. Okay. May Tal. I don't even know. I don't even know. What type of name is that? Maito? Maito.
Starting point is 05:12:37 Fuck all that. I know you a girl because you ordered an extra small. We got you on a shmedium. Listen, if you need me to come over to California and bully the scene, the way T. Rowe couldn't do it because I know he got one arm. You know what I'm saying? I got you on that too, girl. Thank you for all the support.
Starting point is 05:12:55 Devante, my boy. Devante. He's out of, okay, okay, I think he might be in the military. I ain't a lot of it. He out of Ohio. I shout out of you. I never heard of this place. Port Clinton?
Starting point is 05:13:07 When I hear port, I always think of like some military shit. But anyway, shout to my boy, Devante. And also shout to Shem out of Trenton, New Jersey. I don't need to come help you. If you're from Trenton, a nigger from Trenton going to bully the scene already. You don't need me. You don't need me. You're going to bully this scene already.
Starting point is 05:13:24 That's a fact. That's a fact. a nigga a nigga from trenton even though there's a passport office in trenton they don't got no passport so they ain't thinking about being in turst they're gonna bully the scene no matter what my nigga rann smith oh shit i said your full name my bad uh out of milwaukee i ain't gonna lie y'all y'all bullied that nigga um what was that nigga name um that's my god too damian litter y'all bullied the scene with that nigga y'all bully that nigga out of there i think that nigga going back to uh portland and oh my baby Veronica
Starting point is 05:13:56 Veronica out of San Diego girl I ain't gonna lie I've been to San Diego since my godson got christened but anyway I come over there and bully to see what you too what's the problem and Jalen thank you as well wait Jeline did you just
Starting point is 05:14:12 oh never mind she just ordered some extra shorts oh all right girl do you think do you think see what's going on anyway man shoes she was throwing her bags That's beef. I thought Rashid Ali was like some rugged thugget bitch.
Starting point is 05:14:31 Down, like down into my last second of breathing, and I'm going to bang. I'm not going to. It is what it is, you know? I really like you, man. I just was like, girl, grow up. She's like, grow up, grow up. You think that I was just like, you look so stupid. You sound stupid.
Starting point is 05:14:50 You look stupid. You got to chill. She takes her shoes off. She starts throwing her shoes. Really? She starts throwing her bags. Yeah. At that point, you should realize.
Starting point is 05:15:03 Nothing. Yes. Yes. And right now you can say. Yes. You in Kansas and you think y'all about to have a good time in that lounge. You haven't been doing these lounges yet? They'd be having all like, you know, croissants.
Starting point is 05:15:17 You got croissants. French toast. All that bullshit. Hell nah. It's a Brooklyn bitch. Cardi's a Brooklyn. bitch. I don't know.
Starting point is 05:15:31 She starts throwing her bags. She's yelling to the top of her lungs. Yes. Of course, now the airport people are coming over. And I'm like, this is just so goofy. She bullied the scene. By the way, I just DM Cardi. I said, Cardi.
Starting point is 05:15:45 I ain't know that when you see your op, you bullied the scene like that. Hopefully she doesn't say what I mean. I know Cardi B bullied the scene. And, you know, ultimately, the end result was nothing. Just a bunch of just making us look stupid as black people. No, no, no, there was something. She, she, she, she hit you in the head with the speaker.
Starting point is 05:16:04 She threw her fucking luggage at your ass. Niggins, she has your ass as target practice. You was a Penaata in the goddamn French hotel or, or airport. And she still made her flight. And she still was good. And she feel like she was redeemed for all the fuck shit that you did when you gave her a knot years ago. She got her lick back. People.
Starting point is 05:16:24 And, you know, she went about her business. but one, she was the aggressor and the original altercation, not me. Can you tell me that original altercation? I don't know nothing. See, that's the thing. By the way, she's making Nikki look crazy.
Starting point is 05:16:40 So it looked like Cardi B was, Cardi B is a problem. Well, she's a bitch from the Bronx. Cardi B going to try to slap Nikki. Cardi B is going to try to get it up. Look like she was trying to beat up Nikki. Nikki or I guess Rashida Ali did something that gave her a knot on her head.
Starting point is 05:16:56 And then she wanted to get back for the knot on her head and she got it back years later. That would mean I have to tell you about me being physical with someone on air. Oh, there you go. You see what I'm saying? I'm saying. I don't do that. What the fuck happened?
Starting point is 05:17:10 But I'll tell you. But she was the aggressor. No one initiated anything with her at this stage of where we are in life and yelling in the airport. And it's just, it's so corny. I even said, you know, in the process, I said, are you? Yo, chat, the, yo, we need the bully the scene button. Man, I remember to call. We need to book.
Starting point is 05:17:31 Hey, yo, Damson, yo, my boy. My boy coming out of Val's mind. Is that Missouri? My boy. Okay, okay. Listen, bro. Listen, if you're in Missouri, I know a couple rappers that live out there, but they'll be living on a low because they don't like claiming Missouri.
Starting point is 05:17:45 If you need to be bullying the scene out there, just holl at me, gang. I got you, Gene. I see you out here. Oh, shit. My boy in Australia. My boy in Australia. Okay. Hey? Yo, next time Drake, Drake doing his makeup tour out there,
Starting point is 05:18:00 because I know he can't see some dates on y'all. Nigger, bully the scene, nigga. Get in the backstage, man. Tell the nigga, yo, yo, yo, Chubs, I'm bullying the scene right now, nigga. Fuck all you talking about. You feel me? I'll tell Drake's people to chill, okay? Who else? Oh, Stanley. My nigga, Stanley up in a building. Oh, he in PA. Okay.
Starting point is 05:18:19 All right. Beaver Falls. Where is that at? Okay. Listen, man. Pennsylvania is a great place, man. place to give me my carry permit. I got a carry I live in Jersey, but I got a carry permit in Pennsylvania before Jersey. I got a carry permit here now too. And I think like 42 states, but whatever. Um, and oh shit. Verity? Verity?
Starting point is 05:18:46 Verity. Listen, man, Jackson, Mississippi. Slude to you, y'all. Appreciate you. And thank you, man. Anyway. Not tired. Because, you know, I could, I can raise my voice for a couple of minutes. I'm like, that's exhausting. I'm good on that. You know the only people that are tired?
Starting point is 05:19:01 The people that rolled off into the sunset. Mm-hmm. All right. So I think we kind of got the whole thing. Oh. I'm fucking tired of this bullshit. Fucking every... Different times, three different occasions, right?
Starting point is 05:19:23 And I was never aggressive. Their security pinned me down. And I got hit. For people to be like, oh, so this person was selling the truth? No, because I never got hit in my head 15, 20 times. Like I hit one time and I got pinned down from the beginning to the end. From security, there was not my security or it was the event security. Second of all, the fact that I'm still talking about this in 2018,
Starting point is 05:19:51 something that happened in 2018, it's kind of ridiculous. This shit have even left my mind and have left my body if I've left my soul. So many stuff have happened in my life. I don't care about that shit. Also, the airport event happened a month ago. It happened a month ago. Y'all wouldn't have known about it if somebody else was so internet. And this is why I'm glad that I took the actions that I took that day.
Starting point is 05:20:20 Because if you notice, right, I was being filmed before I saw the person. So you saw me, you saw me before I even saw you, and you decided to get on a wheelchair and that's sick. So for five years, six years, two women, including you, have been trolling me talking about Muhammad Ali, like you're this big, bad wolf. And then when I finally see you in person, you don't have security and you don't have somebody putting the gas behind you, you act like you were in a wheelchair and you're sick and shit like that. I would understand you was throwing up upon yourself, but

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