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Episode Date: September 21, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:01 So I'm here with Shal Lauday. Anyway, let's get into a chat. We got a whole long list of topics. By the way, apologies to all my people who watched the gambling stream yesterday. And I did tell you, I was like, I'm coming back. Sorry, but I'm here now. So we're here. A lot of things we're going to get into.
Starting point is 00:00:25 I have a full list, a full list, a full list. A full list. I got to cover that Shaq situation. You got Shaq going against the fans You got Kendrick Lamar Not approved producers to get money You got Kendrick
Starting point is 00:00:46 Pulling his verse Allegedly Jayze's Super Bowl Cabernick said Jayze's a bitch-ass nigga in a sellout Drake Fomo Full Breakdown Business level
Starting point is 00:01:00 Yes Remi Ma Gend donkey fuck by Mills Brittany Renner caught that mean ether from my boo Daphney Joy. Holy. And apparently the nigger that King Vaughn shot Alex, the one who deals with the Ha-C-C-C-C-A-C-C-Gas.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Like Chicago niggas. Cause. Ha-Cost. Apparently King Von fucked her. And it was revealed on some podcasts. We'll figure it out. Imagine fucking a nigga's sister and shoot his ass after, man. King Vaughn's a legend, man.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Fuck that nigga sister. They ain't shot that nigga after, man. God damn, bro. OG3, possible release. Is Y, B on their investigation? Smirkyo court date. A lot of high-powered attorneys are saying, Smirkyo fin will come home?
Starting point is 00:01:59 Okay? Will he indeed come home, or are we a little bit too excited? Big U said he ain't going to court no more. say leave him in a cell. And the judge says, fuck no, nigga. We're going to peel you off of that goddamn hard mattress. Your ass is coming to court.
Starting point is 00:02:16 That's what's going to happen. That's what it is, Chad. Am I missing anything, chat? We got a long day. Oh, by the way, I think Siddy Nash say he going to talk to one of the witnesses. Hopefully it's not like one of them like Q50 witnesses. You know what I'm saying? Remember the chick that was cloud chasing?
Starting point is 00:02:31 Hopefully it's an actual, not witnesses, is jurors, supposedly, from the smirkyo case. All right. Okay. Sounded good? Sounded good? A. Z. Chike is going to do 9K?
Starting point is 00:02:51 I ain't going to lie to you. That's like going to apply them for him. I thought he was going to sell like 400 records. O'le! O'le! Yo, I seen him on no jumper the other day, like discussing. They were like, they thought I had like something against the West Coast because I don't know A. Z. Chike or Chik?
Starting point is 00:03:12 I think it's Chike. I'll get his name now. bruff that niggas not relevant the fuck is you like y'all west coast niggins is the most delusional people that waji not like i love yg like these people i got no problem with but like west coast's idea of relevance is like very skewed this is why i'm happy i'm going to l-a because i got to listen to your radio and get in y'all skewed mindset bruff i'm going to a lot of you bobby schmurter's hotter than a z chike like brother like nobody outside of west plays his music and we were about to play's music because it because it
Starting point is 00:03:44 That's what it is. Now, he could have a good career with just the West Coast. I'm just telling you, his music don't pass probably Arizona. That's just reality. Like, they hate, they think I'm hating on the West Coast when I say that. The biggest problem with the West Coast is that y'all get a regional bus and then y'all think y'all hot to the world. New York rappers used to do that too.
Starting point is 00:04:07 New York rappers used to do the same little tour, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, maybe all. Albany Buffet Buffalo or some shit like that. Then they do Jersey and Philly and they think the whole world knows them. Then they go to fucking Miami and people like, who the fuck is this guy? Who is this guy? Or they go to Atlanta and be like, they realize their music doesn't get played. So when I'm saying that about the West Coast, I'm not even dissing the West Coast.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I'm just saying West Coast has always had this problem. Like, y'all get hot. Like, put it like this. What's those guys names? I can't even remember the name. The Phoenix niggis from the group. What's the name of the group, bro? Y'all know the O'G. O'G. O'Reasy is in that group.
Starting point is 00:04:48 What's their name? Y'all know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. Like, the only thing I'm trying to say, the West Coast dudes is like, listen, this is the problem with rap in general, right? Nobody wants to actually be global. Right? Niggas get popping in their little spot.
Starting point is 00:05:09 They start fucking the bitches around them. They get played on, like, Pai 106. Like, bro, like, I got to show you, like, how minuscue, like, Power 106 and, like, and those type of platforms even is. Bro, nobody's listen to them shits. Like, these days, if you can't go to a, like, let me see. If you're, if you're, let me start with New York because, you know, L.A. niggas being there feels. If you're from New York and you can't book a show in Scottsdale, my nigga, you're a regional artist.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Okay? It's 50 states, brother. If no one, if they only know you on one coast, you're not known. You're not popping. Again, you're popping in whatever. I cover global hip-hop. So to me, they don't know jump-bagglass. No, I cover global hip-hop, not a nigga popping in like, in like four zip codes.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Fuck no. And I'm saying that that's not only a West Coast problem. It happens in New York a lot. Not going to lie. Bronx Drill didn't go nowhere. It's popping. Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New York, Jersey, Pennsylvania. And you might be like, y'all with six cities, and look how many people.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Great. But go to a rolling loud and you're performing at noon. Because you go down there to Miami, they don't want to be, they don't want to be doing all these little zesty, sturdies. It's not happening. So I challenge all rappers. You need to be global. like future is a ubiquitous. Oh my God,
Starting point is 00:06:49 whatever. He's ubiquitous. He's a artist that's known to everyone. He's just no. It doesn't, if future is coming to New Jersey or he's going to Seattle, it's future.
Starting point is 00:07:03 So a lot of times niggas talk about regional artists. Easy Chikey is a regional artist. And y'all could get your feelings about it or y'all could start challenging y'allselves to become global. Has A. Z. Chike done an interview on the East Coast? Has he collaborated with East Coast artists? Has he had any song moving on the East Coast?
Starting point is 00:07:27 No. I'm telling y'all the truth. This is a big problem in music because these days, you don't have to go global to make a living. Like, there's certain niggas that, well, back in the day, I'm saying back in the day like we 70. but like there's a circuit down there there's a circuit down there where like
Starting point is 00:07:53 it's where the boo-season them they don't ever need to come up north they do one big ass circuit club here club here and every time you hear like some place that you've never heard before but they have a circuit right and you could clean up there
Starting point is 00:08:08 but unless you have a hit your music probably never gets played outside of there that's my only thing so like you know unfortunately I think the West Coast has the same delusion that New York has they think when you're popping on the West Coast everybody knows you nigger no we don't
Starting point is 00:08:26 I listen even lefty gunplay no disrespect to him if lefty gunplay walked in Times Square and niggins would be like who the fuck is this guy that's what I'm saying AZ Chiquet if you put him in a lineup in New York City
Starting point is 00:08:48 with like a bunch of niggas and be like you get a million dollars if you could pick him out and you pick a random hip hop fan they cannot that's a reality don't get mad about me now i'm telling y'all the truth i'm telling you out of truth about just some of y'all your favorite artists and it's not only a west coast thing it happens on the west coast and new york the most because niggas start doing niggins start feeling mad hot all right i'm gonna give an example and i hope he don't get mad either because i fuck with him heavy. Okay, Cash Cobain. Cash Cobain is one of the most lit niggins on the East Coast. Lit! If you go to Houston, not saying they don't know his songs, but it's not that. I hope you
Starting point is 00:09:35 understand that. Like, Cash Cobain is responsible for an entire sound of music on the East Coast. Like, he, like, pretty much he runs it. Great producer, great artists. But this is the thing about sometimes with regions. His sound is still regional. It's not national. Now, could he do a concert? As I was saying, I was using the barometer of Scottsdale. Yes, he could.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah. But would everybody know who the fuck he is there? No. Just being honest. Just being honest. Somebody said, cash out. Of course, cash got, yo, I'm telling you on the East Coast, the niggas killing it, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:20 What I'm trying to tell you, tell you is that if okay let's go to the west coast with cash now cash is you know respectfully just more way more known in my opinion than a z cheek but i might be biased because i'm on the east but if you go if you bring cash to fucking i don't know they even have clubs anymore like you know what's going on to west coast more they have like one oak or some shit is that that's your popping whatever the popping club over there are they going to be rinscing through like five Cash Cobain songs? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Just like if you're on the East Coast, you've probably never heard an A Z-TK song, ever. So I challenge artists to like, yo, when you think you've made it, just realize there's a lot of other places that have no fucking clue about you. Okay?
Starting point is 00:11:16 Anyway. Um, why don't even go to that low range? Of course Cash gets, okay. Cash gets obviously more play than AZK, bro. Cash has songs with Drake. Right? Wasn't calling for you like a cash joint? Wasn't, didn't they do the remix of somebody who loves me?
Starting point is 00:11:47 Didn't they do that? Cash got a bunch of other wavy songs as well, right? So yeah, of course. Cash is like, you know, obviously a bigger artist. But what I'm saying is that the wave of what he does, it's mainly East Coast influence. And then when you go to the West Coast, they might not be as familiar with them as he is here.
Starting point is 00:12:07 If I'm him, you know what I would do? I would go out to the West Coast and start planting some seeds. That's what these artists are not doing, right? The West Coast artists, they never come out here. They think, yo, you're never going to run rap just being in the West Coast, bro. You got to come to the East Coast and do a run. Similarly, if you're in New York, you're never going to run rap just being in Brooklyn, brother. You're going to have to go to L.A., you're going to have to go to Miami.
Starting point is 00:12:30 You're going to have to go to Atlanta. That's how it works. Look at the fucking map. And if you are only on one side of the map, the other side probably does not know about you. Pretty easy. All right. All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Well, should we talk about the obvious? So there's a guy named Pilo. Okay? Pelo. All right? Let's go. So I've seen this start, you know, I don't even know this was a thing.
Starting point is 00:13:07 But if you don't know, the most popping West Coast song of the year Drake got ironic right so Drake got the most popping West Coast song a year it's called Too off of the motherfucking radio Whatever it is It's not I mean it's cool
Starting point is 00:13:22 You know all that you know like aggressive shit Like bruff Brave bruff save me with it okay Listen I'm not Listen come on brother I'm not wearing no chucks no dickies I'm good But whatever it is kind of bumping
Starting point is 00:13:35 You know Drake kind of swagged it up You know I thought Drake just kind of prove a point just to say, niggia, I'm the guy who could sing in Spanish that could do dance all, that could rap in a UK accent, that could sound like I'm a Memphis player when I want to, I could sound like I'm from Texas, and if I definitely want to come sound like or dominate West Coast with y'all shit, nigga,
Starting point is 00:14:00 I can. I think that's all he proof, which I think that's kind of obvious, right? But the song in general, I'm like, I was actually surprised It's number one over the West Coast But I'm like, all right, that's their type of shit I'm like all right, all this hard, aggressive Like these niggas dancing like this
Starting point is 00:14:16 I'm like whatever, bro Whatever man Okay So Drake got the number one song on the West Coast Now everybody's waiting for like Kendrick to drop Kendrick had teased that he was going to drop on AZ Tyke's album And apparently T-Rill runs his mouth about it Kendrick snatches it back up.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I've heard other things, not confirm, but I also hear, I think it was the dis element. You know, I don't know why, like, Tiro made it sound like it was like, oh, this is like another control. And for whatever reason, I don't know how the politics worked with that, but Kendrick's like, you know what, let me just not do this right now. Whatever. If it comes, it comes.
Starting point is 00:14:59 If not, Y'all Kendrick, know the drill. It'll come in the next five years. Whatever. However, the West Coast podcasters are still bowing to their god, Kendrick Lamar, who never talks to them, who takes the verse back, gives them no shoutouts, doesn't give them a feature, can't put up their album on a story, no interviews, no nothing, okay? That's how Kendrick's treats all of them niggies on the West Coast, yet people feel like he is the ultimate and like the god of the West,
Starting point is 00:15:30 which means because Drake got the number one song on the West Coast they looked at the producer and apparently the producers from the West Coast and they're like oh hell no oh hell no now now now this is like
Starting point is 00:15:44 this is like the second thing which is kind of like you know as much as people love to say that Drake was bothered right like oh yeah Drake is bothered Kendrick hasn't talked to the game and let's cut the bullshit bro he hasn't
Starting point is 00:16:00 talk to the game in Madlong. He's been weird with the game. Won't get on the phone with the game. Why? He's looking at the game like the game's a op. Like, nigga, why are you so cool with Drake? Fuck you and fuck him. We obviously know what he's on.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Come on, bro. Like, let's stop with this other bullshit, right? So that's how Kendrick feels about the game, just because he's cool with Drake, right? Now, apparently there's this producer who, again, just made a beat and gave it a Drake. And everybody, again, Kendrick, hasn't said anything, but these people who call themselves being close to Kendrick
Starting point is 00:16:36 kind of tells you his feeling about it. Kendrick don't want none of these niggas fucking with Drake at all, okay? Which, by the way, if everybody was saying, oh, it's just a battle, it's over, it's over. How come Kendrick in his feelings every time somebody work with Drake? Well, whatever, it's all good. So the conversation, and by the way, I've never heard this guy before, and this is, And I'm not saying it's this. I'm actually saying this to say,
Starting point is 00:17:02 if the mere fact I've never heard of him before, he's produced for Drake, got a hit song, and now he's being talked about, if he let the West Coast niggas chase him back into irrelevancy, well, he's just a stupid ass nigga. We got to keep it up being around. So anyway, so apparently this is the producer. And let me look up to some, by the way.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Iceman Drake Iceman let's look at the Wikipedia joint I want to make sure I know the producer Where Drake even find this guy, right? They said this guy's like Known in the Bay He's like a good Bay producer and shit like that Okay Now by the way also keep in mind Drake kind of like them type of beats
Starting point is 00:17:46 Like when he's trying to get a little bop Like we've seen him with Isn't the motto and songs like that Like he kind of you know Where is it at? Not rental it? What is it? It's called?
Starting point is 00:17:57 It's not too hard for the radio. Okay, so the guy who did it, his name is Pelo, right? So y'all see it right here? Let me make sure you. I can see it chat. All right. So too hard for the radio. His name's Pilo, okay?
Starting point is 00:18:11 The dude is, you know, he's 35. And essentially, yeah, you know, look like he just got like his big break, supposedly, right? Even though he's been doing music, supposedly from 2008. All right, again, I apologize to him if he produced some other big song and nobody knew about it, but I never heard about him till like two days ago, okay?
Starting point is 00:18:38 Let me see. All right. And by the way, Drake also did this song to pay respect to Mack Drake. Drake has historically paid respect to Mack Drake. Mack Drake's family has showed love to Drake because their estate gets paid when Drake samples Mac Dre. So they like it. But of course, you know, Kung Fu Kenny don't want nobody pulling up to Compton to shoot a video,
Starting point is 00:19:06 even if it's for their lead single. He don't like that. So he don't fuck with game no more. So even if it's going to take your family out of poverty, he don't like the fact that this producer, who he'll never rap on his songs, is doing some shit with Drake. All right? Now, Kendrick Street team, right?
Starting point is 00:19:29 And I gotta just be honest, it's Glass is Malone, right? Don't know who Glasses Malone is. I guess he calls himself a podcaster. I had to like Google the dude because I have to, because I just start hearing him talk way too much like, like he's an officiantado and I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? Come to find out, he's like a failed rapper.
Starting point is 00:19:49 The game signed back, like, you know, the game signed this dude years ago. Like, like, let me show y'all. The game signs glasses Malone. Like, I was really like, who the fuck is this guy? Now, if you go all the way back, right? He gets signed. Um, yeah, he got signed by the game.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And I'm going to keep it to be with you just respectfully, aesthetically. You know, he came out if you asked me at the wrong time. Brough, just look how he looks, bro. Like, this was not the wave like round two. 2008, it's not working. Like Kanye was already pink poloing up. This is not going to work, brother, okay? You're not going to be the smart nerd gangbanger.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Wasn't going to work, okay? The Shug Night Arrow is done. All of this shit is, you know what I mean? Snoop Dogg is a legend at that point. This guy who's like the, I haven't listened to his music, but it seems like he's like the smart gangbanger. It's like, that's like an oxymoron, right? Whatever. Anyway, it doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:20:57 His career goes out in flames. Game kind of cools off for a bit. And after the game cools off, this guy kind of like, he becomes a Twitter troll, literally. Like, he's just on Twitter, just trolling for years. In years. And then, within the last two years, you know, everybody's meek is trying to be a streamer.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Everybody's trying to be a streamer. He started doing a podcast. right now obviously just like dj heading these other guys we don't give a fuck what they say however they all position themselves like they're like the west coast like gatekeeper they're they're like yo kendrick is my homie like you know what we don't give a fuck but whatever they get to come in the mix and the only reason why people pay them uh any attention is because they act like they're almost like spokesperson, a street team for Kendrick. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:00 So the Pelo dude, he's getting interviewed on Back on Fig. Okay. And apparently Glass is Malone, who is, I don't know if he's trying to get a PG Lang chain. I don't know what he's trying to do, okay? But he comes on trying to intimidate Pilo about, why he gave Drake a beat that changed his financial fortunes?
Starting point is 00:22:30 Listen to this. The West Coast. Come on, come on. You don't get to log out because it's a couple dollars. He said, he said, he did. Yo, these things are treating the West Coast shit like, like it's Islam, bro. Like, these guys are going on crazy
Starting point is 00:22:44 with his West Coast shit, bro. He can't log out because it's a couple dollars. Come on. No, Glasses Malode is like the Sneeko. You know, a Sneako been rocking heavy for Islam recently, that's Glasses Malone in the West Coast, bro. He treats us like a religion, gang. You can't log out because it's a couple of dollars.
Starting point is 00:23:00 That's like you shitted on me in here right in my face. You know that's our boy. Your life, you know that's our boy. I don't even fuck if I didn't know one nigga from HBK, nigga. Wait, hold on. Now, there's so much fucker he said that you have to pause and go back. He's mad at the guy for getting his biggest song with Drake, and he's saying even if you don't even,
Starting point is 00:23:28 you've never even met Kendrick. Now, most of these guys who like, you know, DJ heading these other guys, like, as I said, nobody on planet Earth gives a fuck about Glasses Malone's opinion. But he'll get some importance and he'll get reposted because he'll claim that Dot is his homie or whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:45 That's the only thing these guys have, bro. I'm telling you. Like, trust me, you won't see a nigga click on nothing, Glasses Malone, DJ Dick, related unless they're basically the spokesperson for Kendrick. You've never heard them talk about, okay, so this is what's going on with young thug. Nobody cares about Glasses Malone, a pain on dog?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Oh, so hey, what about this other hip-hop topic? Did you hear that Don Tolliver album? Nobody gives a fuck about what Glass-Malone is saying, bro. So the point is they get this thing to say, well, they're cool with Kendrick. Right? I remember telling Glass-Malone, I said, nigga, listen. Listen here, buddy. Listen here.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I don't know why you even still talking about this beat, but he was talking about some shit like, well, academics wasn't bored. I said, I think, shut the fuck up. In the beef, nobody mentioned Glasses Malone. Drake sampled me. Kendrick mentioned me. Nick, I think this beef, I got more steak in it than you. Nobody gives a fuck what you're talking.
Starting point is 00:24:49 He's like, well, I'm cool with Dot. I'm cool. All right, so this is a car they like to use. I'm cool with Dot. All right. So he's checking this guy and you got to hear some of the stupid shit. We got to like slow this down. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:25:03 He said, he said. You can't log out because of a couple of dollars. Yo, Pelo, if you let a, if you let an unemployed nigga like Glass is Malone, stop you from getting money. Hey, let me take. Yo, you ever see a, you ever see a bum trying to, like, convince you to give up your hustle? Man, you go to work, nigga. You, man, that shit corny, man.
Starting point is 00:25:27 That shit corny, nigga. That shit corny, nigga. Nika, you old, you go, you're nine to five ass, nigga, you're a nine of five. Tats, you've ever seen a nigga that don't got what you got trying to tell you how uncool it is that you got some shit? You got a job, nigga, oh, you're on that listening to the white man shit. Nick, ah, hell nah, you're on that listen to the white man shit.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Oh, hell no, hell no. Fuck that. Fuck that. Anybody can tell me what to do. Bro, you're on government assistant. Nah, fuck that, nigga. I'd rather, someone get it out of the mud. But I ain't, man, nigger, you on the white man program.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Okay, Mr. Unemployment Line guy. So Glass is Malone, right? Is telling a guy who is now accelerating his career as a producer. Bro, why are you getting that money, nigga? Of course it's from a guy who got no money off rap. Of course he's going to say it. Of course, this guy's going to say it. guy with no platinum records, of course he's going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Listen, I hate to use Dirk as an example. But 6'9, he was right about this. Way back. He said, he said, Dirk and G. Herbo told me, fuck going platinum. I'm platinum in the streets. When I was platinum and they weren't. The moment they start going platinum, they said, fuck the streets.
Starting point is 00:27:04 We platinum now. That's true. When niggins don't got what you got, they make it sound on cool. Glass is Malone. He might be on government assistance. He's basically saying, yo, you're getting some money with the biggest rapper in the world? And that's just corny, man.
Starting point is 00:27:24 You're a sellout. Come on. Come on now. You can't lie like you shitted on me in here? What? It's like you shitted on me by doing a record? No, that's our. Let me get this straight.
Starting point is 00:27:59 They want this guy just because of where he was born and where he was. he lives at to have some un, you know, unrelentant loyalty to a guy that he probably hasn't met, that probably was never going to work with him. A guy that don't even want to work with glasses.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Huh? I don't even fuck if I don't know one nigga from HBK, nigga. I'm not helping no nigga dis-no nigga from HBK, even if I don't know the other nigga. Yeah, they're acting like the producer is on the record. Chat, they're acting like the producer is on the record. Like writing bars and some shit.
Starting point is 00:28:43 This is some low IQ shit. This is some low IQ shit. I'll give you one. And we're going to talk about the lowest, the nigga with the lowest IQ of them all. Meek Mill. You know who produced back to back? Nav.
Starting point is 00:29:01 You know who? And Meek Mill is like, mad close? Nav and meek. Now I'm pretty sure. Meeks pretty stupid. I'm pretty sure he did feel away at the point, but he got over it. That's the point. Got over it. May, get your money.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Stretch my loat. You know I've got love for y'all. All of y'all, the whole day. But, bro, even when the press came down, you start shitting on us. Y'all tried to jump out the car for a couple dollars with this motherfucker? That's crazy. What press came down? What do you mean the press came down?
Starting point is 00:29:38 And you know what? We did our business. We got our paper, but look, it's the West. Blah, blah, blah. But you can't shit on us at the same time. That's fucked up. When did I ever shit on who? You started being extra pro bay in the face of people questioning you how you're shitting on the West Coast.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And they don't separate. Oh. So apparently these niggas, like, they got a whole West Coast and the Bay shit. So I guess Glasses is trying to say, like, we're together. You get what I'm saying? It's like, all right, let me put it in terms that we understand. It's like you being from Lamron and this in Oblock. Basically, they say, why do that when y'all all beat these?
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yo, we all beat these. So I guess he's treating this West Coast shit like as a gang. So he's saying, usually when we think West Coast we're thinking about Los Angeles, right? Or Los Angeles adjacent. He's saying the Bay and Los Angeles, they're like together. So he made it look divided when he. he started basically saying, oh, nah, it's the Bay. So it felt like he was participating in some divide and conquer stuff,
Starting point is 00:30:55 which they felt maybe Drake or someone else was trying to do by them not associating overall as the West Coast by just saying, oh, it's the Bay. Okay. Be pro Bay without sitting on nobody. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. I put it another term. It's like when they be like, yo, yo, if you say, if you say free Palestine, I mean you don't fuck with Israel.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Get what I want? You get one other ones? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So this guy glasses Malone. Like, he's like Martin Luther King Jr. with a blue flag pressing everybody on how they need to stay grounded for their version of Islam, which is West Coast. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:41 West Coast. Bay is pro-Bet because he flipped Madre. That's why I'm pro-bay. That's good business of making records. Yes. Okay, so what are we talking about? So the dude is say, bro, I'm bigging up my particular region because the dude is bigging up Mac Dre and Mac Dre from my region.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Anything other than good business? The bad business is when you started to do things to try to go probate to get out of the shit when everybody from the West was on you saying, how did you do this sitting on the West? It ain't the bay over the west Nick, it's one thing That's why you wouldn't have produced If he was disin' 40
Starting point is 00:32:22 You ain't from motherfucking No, God, I know he for you. Hold up, hold up Pete, hold on Pete You wouldn't have if he was distant short And you ain't from Oakland You wouldn't have dead if he was distant spice And you're not from motherfucking You're not from none of these places
Starting point is 00:32:34 You wouldn't have did that So don't try to sit on us in this moment You live here I live here Your Glass is Malone, man Get out of your feelings, man I thought you asked The battle was over, bro.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Get out of your feelings. Drake wasn't dissing Kendrick, man. He was just popping it, bro. He wasn't dissing Kendrick, nigga. He was just popping it, brother. You get what I'm saying? He was just popping it. Like, he's popping it, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:08 He's popping it. You get what I'm saying? Now, if you want to take it like as a Kendrick diss, he can bust a move, but I'm saying like, he's just popping it. You feel me? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, which part of the thing is this? Is it a bridge?
Starting point is 00:33:27 I'm gonna show you what to do a little nigger. Not because Kendrick Short means it's a diss at him. What the hell? I'm gonna show you what to do, little boy? I don't know. Come on, no. Camera, don't mess with me now. Yeah, like, hey, first off, I make real town smacks.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Boy, you know the model got to push it to the Mac. Back when they was asking about where Davidson was at, now everybody got a blue 30 on a back. Mustard heard about has got to catch up to the slaps. You ain't had one since me and our mustard caught one. But come on. Come on. Mustard is good sport.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Right? Facts. 900 million foot of tracks. Rack City, bitch. We remember that. Damn, you should try and get back to that. Oh, shit. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Now, mustard got to go pick up a stick. Not mustard got to pick up a snake. this new shit you could have kept it on the lap fact and a nigga doing laps strippers on my lap I'm about to make her
Starting point is 00:34:49 back bend hey tell her come and get a boy a lap dance all right damn y'all was really island hopping back then
Starting point is 00:34:58 huh now y'all names got redacted who does that act yeah and I'm on the west like his pockton yeah
Starting point is 00:35:14 I'm fucking power couples up acting like like you love him. Okay, all right, bad, man. Damn. Whoa, whoa, living large. And I put it on the, what is this? I put it on the Cetas. What's the Cetas? Oh, that's a Bay Area slang
Starting point is 00:35:33 for on Mamas? Oh, shit. And the boulevard. Yo, Drake's saying on Mamas? Oh, I know that's some West Coast shit. When I lost Big Nadia, I took it hard. Oh, shit. Need a call up a Stark for some
Starting point is 00:35:52 Chrome Hearts. If you're my new girl, you got. to look the part. Hey, it's Mr. Maker Pipe down. There he goes. Mr. Popstar, that's the way he go. Now I'm too hard for the fucking radio. God damn, it's fire. Let's say the first verse.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Listen up. It's about to be smoke. Ain't nothing but some shit I wrote about a rich-ass nigga that's deep in the game. They call me Jersey Drake and I'm keeping a name. I sport Nike shoes. I got a mic to use to talk about you, pussy. I don't like you fools.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Yeah, that ain't got to do it, Kendrick. Yo, don't be a hit dog that's hollin. Got an Oakland show tonight, baby. My young boys from the y-going crazy. I'm on the bridge with a tank of unleaded. I pull up early to that bitch. That bitch was yanking already. I said yank.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Yank in the city, I really got rank. You see the backpack to the front. You're getting spanked. I blow ants for the fun of it. New Al blue diamonds on the front of it. Shout out to my little cousin, Mr. having none of it. Trying to campaign, yeah, drizzie back running shit. I don't see a Kendrick this in this
Starting point is 00:36:55 He's just popping it, bro And these West Coast niggins is mass sensitive dog Mustard got this Mustard got this But if you think that he says Little Boy and it's automatically at Kendrick Well, you need a therapist Okay
Starting point is 00:37:15 Don't try to shit on that's shit on the West I'm not shitting on nobody He said he wouldn't have did it for With Doc because he don't know Dot, and he knows E40 personally. He could call and tap in on E40 like your brother. You're a producer record on a nigga diss and another nigga
Starting point is 00:37:31 from the bay that you don't know. For some money? I know I'm making music. Did you even know it's going to be a disc record? No, you can't say you make a music. Bro, there ain't no disc record, bro. Beem more than music. I'm not in the studio, bro. I'm not. I didn't know this.
Starting point is 00:37:51 music this ain't just music though pilo you know it ain't you know motherfuckers and lost that yo bro your glasses below respectfully man is niggas like you bro than are priors to the community man the way you talking is why like the west coast is like polluted with gang bang in my nigga like you over here bullying this guy you're using like you you want to know why niggis join gangs it's like this group thing thing or we're like no you got to be you're either with us or them you You know what I mean? Like, bro, the nigga clearly is not anti-West Coast. He clearly isn't on some, oh, I'm with Drake.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Fuck y'all. The nigga just did a record. Y'all hitting him with his gangbanging shit. Like this group thing. Oh, like, yo, well, if you're not one of us, you're the ops. Like, no. Anyway. So that happens, and I think there's another thing.
Starting point is 00:38:43 So they press the dude. And then what happens? And then he goes to. Then he goes to AD show, and he's getting harassed again. All this is he go? Puma R87, thank for the $5. Made that fake swabble up. Kendrick knew you was a traitor and a hater.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Drake corny like you. Damn. Damn. Damn. I was gonna read it. I was... It was crazy. I didn't even make the second half of the beat.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Drop the bomb on that one. I made the first part of the beat. God damn. Damn. I'm trying to say. to skip it, yes. No, that's okay. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:39:30 All right. Big Nuddies for everything with $2. Blue Hunters, 10 times platinum in the hood. Shout out of the cool john. Straight up. Okay, man. Why am I going to have any type of like, I don't know nobody. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:39:51 I don't know. Why would you not do it? Yeah, why would I not do it? Because he was dissing Kendrick Lamar. So look, that's why you wouldn't do it. I mean, but G. Balo asked a question, and he said, if he dissed E40, you feel me, if he dissed E40 and then came and asked you to produce a record for him, would you do it? No, but that's different.
Starting point is 00:40:15 But I truly have, that's fucked up, though. I have a true relationship, huh? That's fucked up, man. Oh, wow. That's crazy. I don't know. That's funny. That's good.
Starting point is 00:40:28 That's good. But Kendrick did ask, you think the bag going to let you disrespect pot? And then, I mean, so let's say if it was Tupac, if you feel like he disrespect Tupac, would you still give the beat? I mean, what, yeah. Why? If y'all claim Tupac, too.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Like, brother. I need you to answer the question. Like I said. Elaborate on it, yeah. But I personally have a relationship with E40. Okay. like I'm like I don't know Kendrick
Starting point is 00:41:07 so it's fucking no it's not fucking I just don't know him so I'm not gonna like have like blind loyalty to somebody I don't know I wouldn't want nobody have blind loyalty to to me go get your go get your McNuggets
Starting point is 00:41:22 go get your jelly go get your McNuggets go get your chili that ain't nothing to do with me yeah correct no See your face You're on the island right now,
Starting point is 00:41:37 dude You want this island I don't know I don't go to that other island Yeah well we know We don't want you over there I'm not going to the other island Man look dog
Starting point is 00:41:51 It's just like We from the at this point If you wanted to beat would you go At this point At this point it's like We're from the same gang We're from the same gang And we got to stick together
Starting point is 00:42:03 Well, California in general. Yeah. Right? We all helping each other. We all, you know what I'm saying? We all come down, do it up. You know what I'm saying? Before being, I'll give a, can drink a beat.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah. I'm sweating you right now. No. No, but look. I'm chilling. But look, ultimately, this is how, because, you know, I'm a Gemini. I think of both. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:28 So one side of my Gemini, you know, I'll be like, yeah, he lost his damn eye. And then the other side would be like, well, maybe Kendrick, you know what I'm saying, through a lob to where he going to make these niggas, you know what I'm saying? He's going to make Drake work with the bass, since he didn't shodd him out and took a gang of shit from him already. Sounds and everything else, you know what I'm saying? Now I'm going to pressure you to go over here and go create music with these niggas, you know what I'm saying, to actually go touch basses and see what's going on with the real. You know what I mean? That's some 4D shit.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I don't God. You know what I'm saying? That's some 4D shit. I mean, but if he'd be thinking out the box, what? That's not nonsense. You're giving Kendrick credit for the shit he's not doing. How you know he didn't think like that? He's not thinking like that.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Well, how do you know? I don't, but you don't know that he is either. He's not thinking like that. That's why I just gave two different scenarios. He would hit a beat. What to me? He's trying to help. He's helping around the way he's trying to help.
Starting point is 00:43:30 He's helping. He helped him. No. Why wouldn't he just go do it? It's a tactic. Why would he just go do it? He's going to do it. Look at this thing.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Look at this thing. It's a tactic. Bully L.A. tactics. It's a tactic. No. It had been so much easier for Kendrick. If Kendrick believes in his heart that he's better than Drake, then why would he just go, Hey, Peele, I need a beat?
Starting point is 00:43:52 So I could highlight what you got going on. Do you understand? Do you understand if a niggas, if a nigger is stealing your style, stealing your cadence, stealing everything that you got to do you got? going on you feel me it comes from the bay but you ain't really rep in the bay like that you feel me with actual niggas producers and
Starting point is 00:44:09 rappers and all of that shit that come from here you ain't really rapping it the way you're rapping it but you're saying the bay though you know we're shaking ass whatever part but you know what I'm saying then this nigga died like nah hell no you don't fuck with the bay
Starting point is 00:44:23 you know what I'm saying when the bay can see you they go get up on you he like nigga you're right and he go to the bay I mean it's reverse psychology dog niggas giving dot two much credit like he's a human being this nigga doesn't have mind control and superpower he like I'm gonna you my soul so he's not able to do reverse psychology so you're saying that like that is not able to do reverse psychology what's not way too deep into it's not even nothing it's really reverse
Starting point is 00:44:49 psychology is really nothing I'll trick him into working with the bay and start highlighting the bay okay okay okay can I all right this is a stupid-ass conversation man stupid-ass conversation man stupid-ass conversation, then these guys are like, I don't know, they are, I don't know, like, Kendrick homies? I only know all these things is Kendrick Holmeses. Y'all not about to be in the same room or we don't be in the same rooms is the same. My whole thing is... If you go separate like that, then, cool.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Catch your birthday legs when you come back over to the subject. G, got to keep that same energy with every nigga out there playing both sides of the fence, man. Who else playing both sides of the fence? Chuck. I didn't see why one press. That guy gave Pelo. Okay, so the other Kendrick homies basically call out Glasses Malone for not also calling out game, which makes pretty much sense.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Now, keep in mind, Kendrick don't like game either. So I think they're saying Glasses, why are you going to call out a producer who work with Drake if Game just dropped the record with Drake? And that's kind of the same thing. That's even worse. But, of course, Glasses is not going to call out game because glasses would probably be like a crackhead on the corner
Starting point is 00:46:18 if game didn't sign him like decades ago. So he's not going to call out the game. So he's picking and choosing like usual, you know? I like that, like that, like that. I love that. Yeah, I like that. I like that, man. So I think he's doing the internet thing with bro,
Starting point is 00:46:39 because all they know each other, yeah, yeah, yeah. He could have said whatever to Chuck. You know what I mean? And it gets like that too. with relationships. You can act like if you want to play like like the T.O. I said earlier with the integrity with the kids and shit,
Starting point is 00:46:51 right? If you want to get on this internet, this camera, and just because you feel like you got an obligation to tell the whole truth about, oh, your personal, you know? Yeah. He could do that with the game. Like if I talk to him on camera,
Starting point is 00:47:05 I'm going to leave it there. Just out of respect, because it's probably going to get a little trick. Yeah. He can do that too. I don't know what he did, but I understand what you're saying like, puppy's your show.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah. That's my whole shit. but yeah man I'm mad at him though get that niggins on god but just keep that energy across with all these niggins yeah that's just a long-lasting battle then hey man hey bro you hopped out there on that you got to be on that with everybody you got oh what you got to get on all these niggins oh god because yeah once again it mixed up dates out of town all the debate and filled with dot said when he said it they didn't carry even put them in that bar you know saying that's why they come to the pop-bye some of them they want to do that shit so if you don't do it that a beat
Starting point is 00:47:54 was gonna be administered about that way he like shit nigger I'm the one need to check so you little niggins about to get the check I'm gonna hear doing them I'm gonna get the check on they call me so so do you feel like he he's all right enough man uh Drake saving the west coast like usual man Nick a Drake really saving the West Coast shit's crazy Okay All right
Starting point is 00:48:35 Did I play what I need to play Now on the other side of things The guy A Z TK Him and Kendrick Lamar There was a verse tease Oh shit they're about to go crazy Right and um Verse never came out
Starting point is 00:49:01 This is what it was teased Chyke coming out Boy AZ Chike announced this new album Coming out man You feel me? He got Kendrick Lamar on this thing, man. A lot of people been talking. They're trying to figure out what is Kendrick going to say, homie, on this album.
Starting point is 00:49:16 They say he's talking at talk. Hey, what's the talk, though? I'm trying to figure out who talking to. Everybody got rumors. Yeah, he's talking that talk. What talk? Shout to the homie, man. Like the company man.
Starting point is 00:49:26 He said he has, you know, somebody that was close. And they said, is he like dissing? And he's just like. I heard it. Yeah. You heard it? Yeah, I did. He's dissing everybody.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I'm not going to beat around the bush. You know what I mean? He dissing everybody I heard it I don't care I don't know I ain't fin of me hitting doing all of that
Starting point is 00:49:45 Everybody that was dissing him He dissing him Oh man Up here we go You know what I'm saying If you was dissing He dissing you back
Starting point is 00:49:53 You're dissing you back You don't hear that subliminal So who is You can dissing You can dissing Well if you know It's going to be some lot You know
Starting point is 00:50:04 People coming back Okay, whatever. Anyway, the word on the street is that Kendrick ain't like that fuck shit. You know, Kendrick is mad stingy. He was thinking about, yo, Kendrick, the type of nigger, he put the $100 in your hand, and as soon as you about to close your hand to accept it,
Starting point is 00:50:28 he pull it back. He pull it back. You get what I'm saying? Like, Kendrick treat the niggas on the West Coast like how you treat an animal. You just dangle a carrot in front of them. And they just keep them running. Like eventually I'm gonna get it.
Starting point is 00:50:41 One day I'm gonna get it. One day I'm gonna get it. One day I'm gonna get it. It's like a hamster on the wheel. They ain't never getting it, gang, ever. So I like that. I think Kendrick's a boss for that. Real talk.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I think Kendrick's a boss for that. All right? So A. Z. Chike's album comes out, don't got no Kendrick feature, bro. Kendrick is nowhere to be seen. Okay? Kendrick don't even give him an intro, not an interlude. He don't crack a joke on a skit.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Nothing. Okay? By the way, listen, call it what you want. We're like, yo, Drake, not only you should give my nigga game, you know what I mean, a hook. But, yo, throw it up on a gram. You got to show him some love. Drake, being a real ass nigger, throws it up on a gram, show him some love. Just doing what real niggas do.
Starting point is 00:51:28 What Kendrick does? He took the verse back. Does he tweet the album out? Nigger, what you expect? Fuck no, nigga. Does he shout it out? Like, yo, this guy's up next. Yo, I believe in him.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Just giving him the strength. Nica, fuck no. You know what he does? He basically allows this guy's to basically, you know, just use a video of him in the studio. Yo, bro. Yo, I fuck with that, man. Yo, he gave this nigga
Starting point is 00:52:03 Like an Instagram video Be like, yeah, you ain't getting the verse yet You don't deserve the verse yet But you could show niggas You were in the studio with me though Listen to shit chat Just knock them out, just go Don't even over thinking
Starting point is 00:52:16 Just go Yeah Yo, this is some cold work gang Just like some cold work, bro Yo, Kendrick is a legend gang No shout out No nothing No shout out
Starting point is 00:52:32 No verse. Not even like allowing you to clickbait it. Like, oh, Kendrick is on here doing something. Nothing. All he does, he gives you a video to put it out on your socials, which, by the way, nobody on planet Earth will find. How many follows this AZK got? How many follows this nigga got?
Starting point is 00:53:01 We got 3001,000 followers, bro. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Kendrick did throw up it on the... The Kendrick Throwed up on his page? Fuck no Oh shit All right
Starting point is 00:53:24 What's his burner page? What's it called? Joe Juruski He got to throw it up on a burn It's a burner page gang He had to throw it up on the burner page, right? Hell no The nigger
Starting point is 00:53:47 Behion, yo I ain't gonna lie to you The way Kendrick treated this nigga It's like he paid for a meeting greet Like yo you pay for a meeting greet You get what I'm saying? You paid for a meeting greet Like I bet nigga You get that way.
Starting point is 00:53:59 one pitch and do what you got to do with a game but that's it damn you know kend gave my man a mean green this is fucked up let me go to this album a z cheek okay 100% a z chike album wait can i go to the wikipedia version i want to see like credits tell me at least who's the um who is kentrick lamar the fucking um we're record again is kentzumar the executive producer at least like something you know this is cold work man yo a z tk man i wouldn't take that if i was you not saying this what happened but when supposedly dot was you know working with cardi a bit at least he gave cardi three of them things three of them things what is it a three three features or two whatever because y'all know
Starting point is 00:55:23 y'all know in my opinion let me just say my opinion in my opinion in my opinion in my opinion that's why we ain't get this on there that's why we ain't get this on there in my opinion yeah that tapping in not trying to do whatever i get it i get it and i'm a drake fan understand. Dat was kind of like moving like executive producer. All right. You've got this fire joined by Drake, but don't throw it on there because like you don't want to fuck up. Like dot got some irrational. Yo, who hate who more? Meek Mill hate me or dot hate Drake? Now I got to be meek. That nigga went to the voodoo house with me. That shit was crazy. We won't get that yet. So I see Cardi's like, you know what, bro, you know, respectfully like, yo, we're going over here.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Makes sense. You at least got something out of it. You got something out of it. Yo, how A. Z. T.K. Loses verse and only end up with a basic cameo, bro. Bro, he ended up with a mean greed. Yo, Kendrick, I ain't going to lie. You are a cold nigger for how you're playing these niggins' faces.
Starting point is 00:57:01 I'll fuck with it. You get what I'm saying? Yo, bro, chill out, nigga. this is probably Kendrick's cameraman like y'all right just yo send him those two pitches and that's it we out man
Starting point is 00:57:11 west up that's it fuck out of here holy shit man okay Kendrick this is a tour
Starting point is 00:57:26 but this is what I was telling you right yo how we got no east coast dates that's what I'm saying bro oh no he doesn't he no no it's Vegas Arizona I told you most of that that shit do not pass Arizona bro. You do not pass, like, I'm not even
Starting point is 00:57:41 this is in the West Coast. But I call people regional artists unless your music passes Arizona. And I call people regional artists from the East Coast unless your music passes Philly, my name. Your music stop in Philly? Oh, you ain't popping out there. Like, you're regional. You're popping in the region, but you're regional. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Oh, no, no, he is coming to New York. S-O-Bs. Okay. I might go to see him. No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I don't got a problem with him. I'm just, mm-hmm. What song does he have? that's lit. What are you doing? SOBs.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Sob's 350 cap. Is it 350 or like 500? Yeah. Charlotte. Yeah. Azy. I know I know you're probably going to see this and you're like, damn, this thing I hate me. I don't hate you, brother.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I'm from a different coast than you. I get it. Y'all are all loyal to Kendrick. He's your God. Like, I'm not going to doubt y'allel is it. Whatever. I'm giving you just some advice for your career. you're supposedly popping on the West, focus on other regions.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Trust. Just focus on other regions. And then when you catch one, and by the way, stop thinking, Kendrick ain't never going to give you the feature. Trust me. Like, he's going to dangle that shit over your head until you're irrelevant, okay? And then you're going to leak the song that he did give you.
Starting point is 00:59:00 That's how it goes, brother. Like, trust me. I know what that was. Focus on other regions. Because if your name supposedly is ringing bells on the West Coast, it's not yet on the east and probably not down south. Focus on those regions. Keep grinding.
Starting point is 00:59:13 If you sold 9K, I know people don't think I'm being like facetious. I'm not. If you sold 9K, I'm going to keep it a bean with you. That's pretty good for you. Bro, meek Mill can sell 9K. Like meat milk range right now is like 4K. You get what I'm saying? You're not doing bad.
Starting point is 00:59:28 If you sold 9K, that's not bad. Okay? But there's way bigger to get pause. Don't hold your breath on the Kendrick feature. Like, you know, if he give you a, another meet and greet with a pitcher, throw it up. Yeah, of course, West up, do all that shit. But don't rely on him. Work the other regions. And here's the thing too. Okay, I get it. Kendrick is y'all God, so you can't work with like, like,
Starting point is 00:59:52 niggas like Drake. But go work with the Atlanta artists. Go work with the Miami artists. Come in New York and work with those artists. Work with, like, the Boston Richies and whoever else. Like, make you be known to people other than just being the West Coast guy. All right? And you'll be fine, brother. You'll be fine. The West Coast, the West Coast is missing a star. The only star over there right now is Kendrick Lamar.
Starting point is 01:00:21 And what I mean by that is, I know Tyler the Creators from there. I know Doja Cat's from there. But we're talking about, like, rap. And I know you're going to be like, well, Todd of the Creator raps, bruff. It's like some eclectic shit. You know what he does, but he's like, come on, brother. Like, you know, no disrespect.
Starting point is 01:00:36 You know, come on. Right? So, yeah, I got some good advice. for him if he sold if he sold 9k that's what people were saying 9k i think that's good for him i don't even i definitely wouldn't call the flop oh yeah big w big w that's like going platinum for him all right um i've given my advice go in peace brother okay Colin capernick has found his voice y'all and he's on j z's headtop bro he's on j z headtop big time Colin Kaepernick, he's popping it now about Jay-Z.
Starting point is 01:01:26 He ain't going for this shit no more, all right? Now, he stayed quiet all these years, okay? All these years. But I think he got a book to sell, right? You think he got a book to sell or some shit like that? And he's finally speaking, right? So he's doing a whole bunch of interviews. I play some of the interviews that he's talking about Jay-Z.
Starting point is 01:01:53 around where we think we're going to have the biggest impact. What is your relationship with Jay-Z now? Where does that stand? Because that's become like a Twitter guessing game. You know, people are like, Jay-Z said this, Colin feels that. I don't know anything about any of it, and I hate to assume.
Starting point is 01:02:13 But I just want to know because I'll lay out what I've seen and you'll tell me what is or isn't. But like some people frame it as if they go like, Jay-Z joined up, teamed up with the NFL to help them. They said it was coming into like, you know, revitalize not just their image, but the way they did the game based on you. And then the camp split, some people say,
Starting point is 01:02:33 it felt like Jay-Z didn't focus enough on the original messaging and focused more on the entertainment side of things. And then the other camp goes, no, Colin went off and made his own deal and that's why like Jay-Z and Colin don't see eye to eye. And then the other day when he was like at one of his concert, he said something about you. So like, yeah, in the freestyle.
Starting point is 01:02:49 How do you see the situation? Where does it land for you? Yeah. I mean, I think we have very different perspectives as far as how we operate as a people. And for me, there was a point in time Rock Nation was trying to recruit me to be represented by them. Saw Jay-Z wear my jersey on SNL. So I had tried to reach out to him previously, in part just say thank you. at that point for the support.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Right. And wouldn't take a call, wouldn't take a meeting, which I'm all good. Like, strange, but okay. I agree, but I also- It's strange to me because you're wearing my jersey. That's the only reason I'm saying that. Yeah, absolutely makes sense. Yeah, that's strange, but okay.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And your organization is trying to recruit me. Right, right, right. But I don't know what people have going on, so I'm, I, I'm not asking for any. anything right now on the back of that he'd asked me to come on stage take a knee while he performed story of oj i was like that that's weird you won't get out of call with me but like you want me to do this i was like no but would love to sit down if you have time right um you're like no thanks i'll need to be a prop yeah it's all good it's all good right um but what Where the real issue came about was, I believe, he had started negotiating with the NFL in 2018.
Starting point is 01:04:32 During that time period, the NFL had built up an organization called the Players Coalition to be able to end the protests in the NFL. Right. And explicitly giving them a payout to be able to end the protest. They came to an agreement. the next week they stopped protesting yeah um eric reed kennie stills were part of those meetings they were like we're not we are not doing that they have been protesting um with me from the beginning so there was a split there and part of what came in advance of that deal was a player's owners meeting where within that meeting it's roger giddell it's judge
Starting point is 01:05:22 York and Bob Kraft and Terry Pagula, Stephen Ross, like all of the decision makers within the NFL. And Terry Pagula during that meeting, he's like, we need a black face to help us lead this. Now, I've never heard anyone explicitly say it that way. Like, we need a black face to put out in front. And they tried that with the Players Coalition that wasn't successful and Jay-Z was the the 2.0 version of that in my opinion and part of that is during the grievance process we have all the documents we have the discovery like we have the insight of what was actually happening during that process um prior to me coming to a settlement with them they had also offered me that position damn and oh shit I didn't know that
Starting point is 01:06:25 And it's like, we're going to continue blackballing you, but will you be the face of our social justice initiatives? And they offered this to me as well as Eric Reed. And there was a nice price tag associated with that. I can imagine. It was like, no, I'm not, I'm not going to do that. Eric was in agreement, we're not doing that. Like, we're not selling people out. And you're also not going to take our careers away while we're fighting for black people and then be like be the face of the thing that says we support black people was not actually supporting yeah that's exactly but he did that deal and then during that process this is where uh i just i looked at as very disingenuous um is he did an interview with andrew bean uh i believe the wall street
Starting point is 01:07:20 journal during that interview was asked like have you spoken to Colin about the deal that you just signed and he said no the next day I get a call or I get a text hey can you get on a call from Jay-Z I'm like I some something must have happened because it's been a couple years or a few years at this point that we've been trying to have a conversation you want to get on the phone all of a sudden it's like hey we need to get out a call during that shares i i did deal with the nfl i was like well can you share like details of what it is that weren't a whole lot of details at that point um i was like i i completely disagree with what you're doing and you're selling the culture out to people who do not care about the culture.
Starting point is 01:08:28 And he was like, well, the ink is dry. I was like, well, that's, if that's how you feel, just keep my name out of it. And that was my one ask. Keep my name out of it. And the press conference the next day was we're doing the deal. We're past kneeling. We shouldn't be talking about calling. We're moving on to action as if action hadn't been happening for years.
Starting point is 01:09:01 And on the back of that, what we saw was, and we got direct calls on this, like they had been putting out hit pieces on us and trying to plant stories. Oh, he's already had a job. He doesn't want to play. And we had journalists call us and be like, hey, we're, like, we got to, we got, we got these calls from Rock Nation like is this is this true like what's that like no absolutely that's not true so a bunch of them came back and we're like oh well we're not going to run those pieces and then it was like oh well we're going to run an ownership story like maybe he'll become an owner or whatever so it pivoted that's from the TMZ thing but so rot nation try to
Starting point is 01:09:53 plan a story that basically was a piece of shit. We saw a definitive effort to try to disparage me in that process. Like, we got the calls. And for me, that's where it's like, I can disagree with what you do, but I'm not going to maliciously go out there and try to derail what you're doing. Right. Like that's...
Starting point is 01:10:17 Home-aligned you. Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's a different type of action. I don't care to partake in. Man. your life, the craziest part of it is that it's not even finished. Yep.
Starting point is 01:10:30 It's already like multiple movies. I know you've already made one. You talk about that in the book with Ava DuV. Okay. He also talks about it here. For me in particular, because you guys know me with what gang and team I represent. This guy's a diner. That's my guy.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Jay-Z recently spoke on your name at Yankee Stadium. How did I think we're past nilly make you feel? I would say it is less on a feeling side and more so on what are you trying to accomplish. To give a little bit of context, I mean, leading up to that point, he had worn my jersey on Saturday Night Live, publicly had been supportive. I have reached out and got connected to them and tried to meet with him, tried to get on a phone call, wasn't willing to do that, which I understand people are busy. I just wanted to show gratitude and appreciation. They had tried to recruit me to Rock Nation, which ultimately didn't do, and some of that is covered in the book as well. but the past kneeling piece, what led into that as far as the days leading up,
Starting point is 01:11:57 I got a call from Jay-Z the day before that press conference. And the reason I got that call was because the day before he did an interview with, I believe it was Andrew Behan, and he asked him, hey, you're doing this deal with the NFL, have you talked to Colin? He was like, no. So he called me the next day and this, I was like, Candley, this was not the first time this had happened. Hey, let me call call on. So when I go into this thing, I can say I talk to him.
Starting point is 01:12:31 So I was familiar with this kind of game. And get on the phone, tells me he's done this deal, told him I. That's the first time. That's good. This is the first time you guys actually spoke. to each other? This is the first time we spoke to each other. And this has been some years of being in touch.
Starting point is 01:12:52 So first time that we have spoke together tells me you did the deal. I was like, I disagree with what you're doing. You're selling the culture out to a bunch of races. At this point, we had done all of the discovery and depositions of the owners of the NFL. So we had all of the insight of the internal conversations as well. And he was like, well, the ink's dry. Hmm. I was like, look, I can't change what you're going to do or what decision you're going to make.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Just keep my name out of it. That was my one request. Just keep my name out of it. And for me to try to minimize the work that we had done to justify to, to justify the to justify the partnership with the NFL. That's the part that I was like, oh, I don't agree with how you move as a person. If you want to do a deal, that's all good, do a deal. But don't try to belittle the work that's been done.
Starting point is 01:14:04 And also the millions of people across the country that are doing this work that directly impacts their lives. And to say we're past that work, like, that's not something I'm behind. Right. Now, the other part that I would say is in addition to that, after that moment, trying to plant fake stories around where I stand or offers that the NFL supposedly made me, which I've never received the offer from the NFL. That's where the malicious intent, I'm like, I don't understand your motive here. So keep your train of thought, please, because I'm tripping right now. Um, there, it's been said. So this, it was completely fake that allegedly you had signed something
Starting point is 01:14:51 on behalf of the NFL for a settlement. Was that real? Oh, so. Are these two different things? These are two different things. Okay, I apologize. Two different things. Finish your first thought and we'll get to that next. Um, yeah, but on the, on the back of this, my, uh, rock nation, his organization, they had tried to plant fake stories about me as part of that. We got calls from the radio personalities and the media personalities around, hey, this is what we got a call on. Like, is this actually true? So we got all of those phone calls directly. So that's the part now I don't understand the intent there outside of trying to justify the backlash that you're getting from people.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Okay. So now back to the allegedly you signing, what I've heard it was like you kind of signed your career way by signing this thing for the NFL. What exactly was that? Yeah. So within the NFL, you have the collective bargaining agreement. That's the agreement between the NFL and the NFL Players Association, which is the Players Union. For me, with the NFL blackballing me, my course of action is to file agreements. which is essentially litigation against the NFL under that agreement. And you go through an arbitration process as part of that, and these are things that I had to learn along the way. Everything is confidential as part of that process from the time you enter it.
Starting point is 01:16:28 I thought we would be able to expose all of the documentation and all that. That was not the case. But your course of action to be able to be restored, is filing a grievance. Ultimately, as part of that process, we reached a settlement. The settlement is trying to recover wages, and that's really your course of action
Starting point is 01:16:50 because of how the players, the collective bargaining agreement was negotiated. As part of that settlement, I can still pursue my career. I can still speak openly or freely and say what I want about the NFL. So there's no signing my role. rights away in that regard.
Starting point is 01:17:11 But a lot of it is, again, trying to be positioned that way to be able to say, oh, well, and you trying to recover wages that the NFL took from you for protesting. It was already yours. The money was already yours, technically.
Starting point is 01:17:26 I mean, at that point, the NFL's actions were irregular, that they were colluding against me. And them denying me a contract, we quantified. and try to recover as part of that. Now, what that equates to is losing approximately $150 plus million.
Starting point is 01:17:48 But that trying to be positioned in the same light as cutting the deal directly with the NFL to undermine the protests is where that, again, becomes a nefarious positioning to try to justify the action. All right, man. Uh, the reality on this thing is that Colin, your ass is washed up, man. You are not getting back in that league, bro. You know, again, listen, they did black boy you. You got paid because they black boy you. Jay Z did snake you, but it's a normal Jay Z play for me. Like, you know, Jay Z is a, you know, a classic rattlesnake, you know?
Starting point is 01:18:33 You know, your stupid ass, believe them. You know, you hopped on the phone with him. I mean, you should have spoke out back then. That's the thing. You know what I mean? You can't call out the finesse 10 years in. You calling out the finesse a little bit way too late, brother. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:18:47 The moment Jay-Z, you should have immediately spoke up. I do not agree with what Jay-Z's doing. He is subverting my movement. Should have said it back then, gang. Not going to lie. Your ass was trying to get back in the league, and you were kind of seeming hypocritical. You said it was a league full of racist,
Starting point is 01:19:04 but you want to play in it. And then, like, Jay just realized, that you ain't make your mind up and he just swooped in and just snakes you like you know i mean j z's a nigger from marcy projects man like that nigg was steal from his own mama like i don't know like bro like again i look at j z and and i've seen how he moves in business he's he's a he's a sharp cutthroat guy some people might call it a snake some people are just going to say yo business is business so you know i'm hearing colin cavernick bro you should should have said this shit the moment it happened.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Charlemagne, Jay Z brought all the chuckers and divers. Yeah, Charlemagne there cackling, you know, when they signed a deal, right? Everybody there was cackling. They made it seem cool. Jay Z stopped all the kneeling. And the rest is history.
Starting point is 01:19:54 That's what happened, gang. You should have said it back then, bro. Now, Jay Z, like, it's far too gone. Jay Z don't give us Kendrick and bad buddy, my nigga. Like, I'm sorry. Niggas ain't going to be like, ah, but what about? No, that's just 10 years old, bro. So again, respect to Colin, you telling your story,
Starting point is 01:20:12 but it's a little bit too late. A little bit too late. And I wouldn't be surprised this upcoming week on the breakfast club. You know, Colin Kaepernick can sland it all the way to hell. I wonder if they'll have them up there, right? Or maybe Jay don't approve that. I don't know. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Yeah, Colin, man, I actually believe you. I believe everything you said because, nigga, we've seen the same slimy mood from Rotney. and whatever the case is. Only thing I'm going to tell you, bro, you're a little bit too late because you literally have the culture, my nigga. Like, you let Jay-Zee rock you to sleep
Starting point is 01:20:48 and take that shit. When you should have been kicking and screaming, nigga, you were doing a beats commercial, like, we didn't even know you could talk. We thought you were mute. Nigger, you were walking around with the beats, like the headphone, nigga, like, we didn't know what you were doing, bro.
Starting point is 01:21:01 We're like, all right, what's up? Other than kneeling, like, what's the vibes? Like, nigga, he wasn't telling us shit. What's it called again? Um, beats commercial Colin K. Yeah. Look. I think it's one, the old ones.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Yeah, bro. Yeah, bro. Like, yeah, this shit was not gonna work, man. Not gonna work. Yo, you should have called out Jay Z to Snake the moment he did it. Now it's too late, bro. It's too late.
Starting point is 01:21:46 It's too late. Users go down as one of Jay Z and Desiree Perez victims, bro. That's just what it is, man. Fuck it. Sad. Anyway, did you all see the Daily Mail? They're coming with some, like,
Starting point is 01:22:06 they're coming with some fucking gossip of some shit. Let's see if this is true, though. Got to see if this is true. According to the Daily Mail, all right? The Daily Mail have been coming out with some shit. They said Super Bowl halftime show organizers are reportedly lining up.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Wait, I thought they said nobody wanted to do this shit. Why did somebody say they were saying people weren't trying to do it. Okay, it's the Super Bowl. Who cares? All right. Super Bowl after organizers are reportedly lining up Justin Bieber and Harry Styles
Starting point is 01:22:47 at top of their shortlist for the showpiece. Not going to lie, anything with Bieber is a win. Actually, I think both of these guys are a win right here. Beaver and Harry Styles win. Bro, I watched Bieber at the fucking at the World Cup and I was like, this guy's a star. Like, Bieber is just,
Starting point is 01:23:04 Bieber is probably one of the closest we could get to like a generational like just out of this world we don't even need new music it's just Bieber according to TMZ both singers are at top of Rock Nation short list
Starting point is 01:23:17 to take the stage but yet they're but yet to be formally approached the performer has typically been announced around late September each year Jay Z gives final approval with his company
Starting point is 01:23:32 partnered with the NFL as the live music and entertainment strategist. But Bieber and styles are reported unlikely to say yes if they're asked to take the gig. What? Which infamously doesn't pay a performance. What? No way Bieber turns out. He might.
Starting point is 01:23:48 He's a gangster, right? The halftime show has welcomed some of the biggest stars in history, but never has paid his acts. I don't think you should get paid for that. I don't be honest. Who instead are generally happy to take the enormous exposure in publicity the show offers. Last year, Bad Bunny's halftime show. The first not performed in English generated a huge debate and controversy, which led to Jay-Z discussing the process behind choosing the act.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Jay-Z said, I think everyone should experience music in its totality. He told GQ, and for a lot of years, it was the only one side of music that was being represented. We got the opportunity to create a more balanced idea of what popular music is today. By the way, I do want to say, I think Jay-Z made a fine choice with bad money. I think bad money is pretty good. I'm not going out on limb. This is the most famous people in the world. I didn't pick like the indie artist I really like from Portland.
Starting point is 01:24:37 It's the number one most streamed artists in the world. Him. Yeah, that's true. Bad Money show set global viewership records and social media records, but fell short of the most view of all time in U.S. television ratings. Okay? The show average 128, right? From 815 to 8.30,
Starting point is 01:24:58 making it the fourth most watch behind Kendrick, Michael Jackson, and Usher. Ooh, okay. Usher passed it too. The previous year, Kendrick was considered a controversial choice because Jay-Z pushed back on the idea that he was a hard one to get across the board in the same interview. And that same decision, asked about a choice for the year prior.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Kendrick Lamar says, yeah, okay. Not without conversation that was dated. You know what I mean? Hmm. Who do I think they get? I'm going to tell you who they go get. I'm trying to think. Who's Ella Langley on tour with right now?
Starting point is 01:25:54 He's not her tour. Tour with. Oh, Morgan Wallin. Y'all can see that. Really, they need Taylor Swift. They need the Swifties up there. But I think Taylor Swift is going to turn that shit down. Her hubby is Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 01:26:18 I don't think she wants it right now. Taylor Swift also realizes she's doing charity work if she does the Super Bowl and you might be like, oh, it's so much exposure. Nigger, when she shows up on television, the ratings go up.
Starting point is 01:26:37 When she's pictured at a game, the ratings go up. They're not helping her. She's helping them. So I don't think she's rushing to do it right now, but I could see her doing it maybe a later point in her career if her influence dwindles down.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Honestly, Taylor Swift is too big for the Super Bowl, if you ask me. Only artist is too big. I think bad money, even though, you know, the most streamed artists globally, it was important for him to bring the Latin market
Starting point is 01:27:13 and bring non-English speaking music on a platform like the Super Bowl, which is a English-speaking platform. So he's not bigger than the Super Bowl. Drake, I don't think it's bigger than Super Bowl. Weekend I don't think he's bigger than Super Bowl. But Taylor, motherfucking Swift, bigger than Super Bowl. Yeah, bigger than Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Let me look at the top 10 artists right now. Top 10 artists. Top 10 artists, Spotify. I'm going to go by Spotify listeners, even though it's not the best test. But we'll go by it right now. We need the top 10 right now. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Bruno Mars, nope. Bruno Mars could do it, but we're going to have to put him in a medley, okay? We're going to have to put him in a medley. Is it Bruno Mars, the nigga who they claim was having some gambling problems, or what? Or somebody else? Anyway, was it Bruno?
Starting point is 01:28:27 Yeah. Bruno got the most monthly listeners by 20 million, bro. I just don't, I think it's going to be, if it's Bruno, which I think that would be a win, it got to be Bruno and friends. Yo, how to fuck this Bruno like? Yo, he's had the most peak listeners. Wait, what songs he got going up that much on Spotify? Let me go type his name.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Hold on I remember is Bruno Mars like some short-looking leprechaun Mexican nigger. Let's see. Guy with a smile, four billion views. I've never heard of that shit. Locked out of heaven I've heard. just the just the way you have heard that that's what I like
Starting point is 01:29:16 I think I've heard that so every one of his songs got like three to four billion not million billion Uptown Funk I've heard that how much does he sell first week when he comes out let me see I gotta see this because this niggas
Starting point is 01:29:35 Bruno Mars first week sales when's the last time he dropped an album 2020 oh he did 186 goddamn yeah I always lit well streaming only did 90K 90K
Starting point is 01:29:54 You know, he just sold a bunch of our vinyl and bullshit, you know? His music has played a lot. Music has played a lot. He has the biggest audience, according to Spotify, monthly listeners, Rihanna is like, Rihanna has the second most monthly listeners right now. This is ridiculous. She hasn't dropped music in 10 years. So monthly listeners are unique people who have listened to that artist at least one time in a month.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Okay? So it's a running tally. Every day it, you know, it basically updates. So for the last 30 days, if you've listened to an artist, you are a monthly listener. Damn, Rihanna still up there. Rihanna already did the Super Bowl. Yeah, Bieber Valley, of course, if he did the Super Bowl, I think that would be a great announcement. We can already got the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Tatei, of course, you know, fuck this number right here. Tatee is the one. Tatee really is the one. Okay? Lady Gaga Didn't she do it already She did it already Bad Bunny
Starting point is 01:31:06 Okay He did it already Drake I think Fuck Jazy Drake ain't doing that shit Point blank period Ariana Grande
Starting point is 01:31:27 Did she do it before I feel like Colplay did it before I feel like I've seen Shakira and Katie Perry Michael Jackson's dead damn Michael Jackson is 13 on most monthly listens? Yeah, it might be a tough thing.
Starting point is 01:31:50 If you don't get Bieber? Where is Harry Stiles? Where's Harry Stiles? Yeah, you can't put Ed Scheran. He's now controversial. Yeah, you can't. Ed Sharon, Ed Sharon is like halfway canceled
Starting point is 01:32:02 for the next half a year until people realize nobody gives a fuck. But right now, they got him on the fire. Pit bull? Nah, bro. Pit bull could do it if we have a, if it's in Miami.
Starting point is 01:32:18 Maroon 5? It's like bringing cold. play, bro. No. Calvin Harris is like, if you bring Calvin Harris, you got to go with like David Guido. Same shit, bro. Billy Elish. Has she ever done it?
Starting point is 01:32:31 I could see them doing some shit like that, Billy Eilis. Do a leper? I can see her doing it, but she got to come package with somebody else. Like, do a leapo? Like, by herself? Fuck out of here. Eminem, obviously he did it already before when they did the aftermath. Shit.
Starting point is 01:32:48 J. Balvin? Nah, brother. Post Malone, nah. Yay, they'll never let the yay do that. Kendrick, well, you already did it, right? Olivia Rodriguez, I could see somebody like that. I ain't gonna lie. Yo, they went nigger, which is Kendrick, right?
Starting point is 01:33:06 Gang, like gang banging shit. So they went gangbanger and fucking anti-ice, like a non-English-speaking nigger. So it's time to go back to white. Like, this is the year you choose. Lily White. You either go country or you choose like like some
Starting point is 01:33:26 Billy Irish type of white chick, broth. Trust. You can't go a nigga again. There's no more niggas. Trust. No, no, no. Yeah. You went gangbanger and fucking Mexican. Not he's not Mexican. He's Puerto Rico. No, he's Dominican. No, he's Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Yeah, rough. Yes. Yeah. Rough. Like, yo, trust me. Them niggas who look like this, them niggas who look like this Drusky just lit up the internet Them niggas who look like this They don't want to hear
Starting point is 01:34:02 They don't want to hear no more that No more that not like us bullshit They don't want to hear no more shit Where like yo first of all they support ice Like yo they don't want to hear no more Spanish It's over nigga They're gonna get on Jay Z's ass now They're gonna be like yo Jay yo listen man
Starting point is 01:34:20 What's up man Yo bro you bringing niggies and wetbacks up here Like this shit's over It's over gang like yo it's time to get to Yo, we need some, we need some white people here. We need some straight white people. It's over. Like, trust me.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Like, Jay got it off already. Yeah. No more guala-gualas. Get that out of here. No more niggas. We need, unless you're going to get one of the niggas that's not a nigger. Like, one of them whitewashed niggas. Like, who's that?
Starting point is 01:34:53 Now, you can't even go shibuzi. Nah, no, no, no, no. He too dark. Like, now, you got to go white. Straight up white. facts. Nah, no, you can't go shibuzzi. Nah, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:35:01 He's too dark. Yeah, yeah. Olivia Roderigo. I can see it. Black eyed piece. I think they did it already. Carol G. Listen, let me tell you this.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Before they come back to some Spanish shit, it's going to be at least 10 years, okay? Respectfully, okay? Cizor, not a chance at home. Lana Del Rey. I don't even know how this person looked like, but it sounds like somebody who they'll probably pick. But, again, if they pick her,
Starting point is 01:35:26 they're picking her with a bunch of people. Yeah. Yeah, she got the right complexion for the, for the, for the situation right now. Yeah. Yo, Jay, listen, I know you don't really fuck with me, but trust me, I'm not leaving you wrong, man. You need some Lily White girl up on that stage, built in out some harmonies, bro. Okay? To keep it real, if you went Adele, killer.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Adele, killer. Trust, Adele, killer. Trust, Adele? I know. It's Super Bowl you want. upbeat music like, you know, Usher was like roller skating around. No, fuck that. Adele?
Starting point is 01:36:06 Someone like you. I mean, having the best man's for you. Nah, killer. Don't beat, Janet. At least. I mean, yeah. We don't even got to ask about Chris Brown. That nigga won't be within 4,000 feet of this goddamn stadium.
Starting point is 01:36:24 We know that. We know that. Yes, this is a country here. No more nigger raps. No more fucking reggaeton. Nah, they don't want that shit this year, bro. Like, listen, trust me. White people, yo, unless y'all want to go back to the era
Starting point is 01:36:44 where all the white motherfucklers was like eating Papa John's like it was going out of style? Remember when the white people were mad at Colin? They were like, yo, Papa John! Papa John! Like, bro, the white people need one right now. Jay, don't fuck this one up. Okay?
Starting point is 01:37:03 get somebody white get, you know, let me tell you, let me tell you something about good old America. As much as they like this DEI shit and they like this like multicultural shit, don't you ever forget that white people still think is their fucking country.
Starting point is 01:37:22 So you throw something to the niggas, you throw something to the Hispanics, but you better not fuck around and try to basketball and shit where it's like, yo, ain't no more white people unless y'all on the Mavericks. Okay? That's why it's the basketball. No more white people unless you're on the Mavericks.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Or the Lakers now. What the fuck going on the Lakers? Anyway, you can't do that. So the blacks, we got some shit. The Spanish got some shit. It's time to return the white. Let's keep it a big. They need a year.
Starting point is 01:37:52 This is their year. Okay? Have they put Justin Timberlake back on since he, like, he ripped the titty, the thing off? You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, Ella Langley's the joint But here's the thing She's still a little bit new, I think Is she new?
Starting point is 01:38:15 I just started hearing about her Oh, she's 27, yeah, she's pretty new Brough, here's the thing Her and Morgan Wallin That would be a good team But you can't just have her You have to have her and someone else So her and Morgan I think will work
Starting point is 01:38:35 Shit, they got a tour that's going crazy Daddy Yankee Hell no, nigga Harry Stiles, I can see it I can see it Molly Cyrus, white people still ain't forgive her for twaking like she was a fucking, you remember when she twirked at the VMAs? She was looking like a goddamn Thanksgiving turkey with no season.
Starting point is 01:39:00 And they ever, y'all remember that? Oh, y'all remember that shit. White people still ain't forgave her yet. Miley Cyrus, they ain't fully forgiven for that bullshit yet. The white people ain't forgive Molly Cyrus for going through that bullshit yet. The white people ain't forgive Molly Cyrus for going through that block. blackface and making songs with niggins like Mike will made it. Are you crazy, nigga?
Starting point is 01:39:28 Mike will made it? Yo, Miley Cyrus is like, yo, chat, let me tell you how white dudes think. This is facts, bro. White dudes got two different type of white bitches. The white bitches that will never fuck a white, a black guy or a Spanish guy. That's the top tier white bitches. You know who the bottom tier is? the bitches who fuck the gangbangers
Starting point is 01:39:53 they let the bum-ass niggas drive they call they try to fuck like some type of you know some Samoan looking buff nigger on steroids like Shannon Sharp that's the bottom feeders straight up the whoa vikis of the world like she's not even really white to white people
Starting point is 01:40:10 bruff the ones they talk about as white don't fuck with nothing black that's a fact trust me it's classism they're like oh you've had a BBC. Somebody get this Negro loving bitch away from me.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Yeah, that's what happens. Yeah. What the fuck? Y'all know? Somebody get this Muddy Shark bitch away from me. Yes. So they talk about them
Starting point is 01:40:40 chicks. They talk about them like dirt. They talk about them like dirt. I'm telling you, bro. They talk about them like dirt. Trust. I don't even think
Starting point is 01:40:58 Clav fuck bitches that for black niggas. I think you should be asking him like, I think you ever seen clavicular? I think he acts and bitches like, yo, here. What was he clevicular? Ask girl is she slept with a black guy.
Starting point is 01:41:16 And by the way, Clazma, God, because you know what? He keeping it a hundred. He, you know why he keeping it a hundred? Bro, white dudes really like kind of look down. I'm like, wait,
Starting point is 01:41:26 you're letting black dinkets hit? I'm good. I'm good, gang. I'm good. I like when people, people are themselves. You know what I'm saying? Racist stream
Starting point is 01:41:42 You? But that looks literally just like your nose and your eyebrows And you know the crazy Hey, cool, bro. Say all my mom's like this on me. Like, that's why I got to get the clip on Twitter, bro. Where's that clip? Me fun on, it was like, yo, you fucked a nigga?
Starting point is 01:42:26 Clive streams are crazy. You ever watch this shit? Look at this. Yo, chat, is this Dayton Col. So she grinding on him? He just whispered her. You want to fuck right now? All camera. Yeah. Shads a clav. I can't find it. Clav clav-clivicular black guy. Pause. Hopefully no porn pop over or something like that. Here we go. Text with black dude. Here we go. Be completely honest. Have you ever had sex with black dude? Say put it on your mom's life. You've never hooked up with a black guy.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Interesting. I don't know, boys. No, I think there was a video where the chick told him was like, yeah. I let the nigga hit. Claib was like, I'm good. I'm good. Here we go. Lily got BBC.
Starting point is 01:43:46 All right. And Clav's dating her. That's fucking brutal. Holy shit. Bro's actually fucking a cave. Brov, I'm telling you the gang. Yeah, the white dudes, white dudes. bro when they hear that their white girls got got fucked by a black dude bro
Starting point is 01:44:17 they're out of there bro they're like yo nigga you want of them you was like yo bro they look it like it on some zombie like some werewolf like some vampire shit like as soon as they find out that the white girl they like fuck the nigga uh anyway Travis Scott Travis Scott didn't perform at none of these shit ever since he killed all them niggas at Astro World that shit's over until until Travis Scott
Starting point is 01:44:49 Go slap Tiger Meek Mill Who else Tony Ayo Like too many else Bruffie he ain't Not performing none of that None of places
Starting point is 01:44:58 Is it Sean Paul like Like Sean Paul Oh shit The Jamaican Sean Paul He's up there Yeah Now
Starting point is 01:45:07 Travis ain't performing No real motherfucker What I'm gonna Let me see Let's see what's cracking Um Yeah we try to find somebody If Justin Timberlake
Starting point is 01:45:16 He'd be He pulled the little thing off of Janet Jackson's titty, and he ain't sucked the titty, bro. He ain't sucked the titty. That was crazy. Adele, always good. Sean Mendez, I don't really know who the fuck that is, but that probably looked like some qualified, qualified candidate.
Starting point is 01:45:32 As I said, the candidate cannot be black and cannot be Spanish. Like, what I mean Spanish, like, Spanish-speaking. They got to look kind of white. They could do maybe like a marshmallow David Guetta type of shit. Maybe that's a way. Yeah, Chris Brown, yeah. Yeah, Doja Cat, fuck white dudes, but yeah, she ain't white enough. Somebody like Hawley might perform this year.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Halsley, some shit like that, right? Who the hell is this? Yeah, yeah. Is this a man or a woman? Oh, it's a woman, yeah. Yeah, she might get a call. Max. Oh, Sabrina Carpenter.
Starting point is 01:46:18 That's baby girl. She might get a call, dead ass. Sabrina Carpenter. She's blonde. Yeah, this is the year of blonde bitches, bro. Trust. Trust. Blonde bitches is back in.
Starting point is 01:46:32 Yeah. She might get the call. I don't cap. Elton John. They're not going to go throwback. Sam Smith. I ain't going to lie. It might be the gays here.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Might be the year for the gays. Like, yo, they gave the niggas. They gave the Hispanics. It's time for gays. It's the gays time. Shit, fuck it. Have him and Elton John up there doing some shit. Little Nazex come out with like booty shorts.
Starting point is 01:46:58 and shit like that, right? Pride month or some dumb shit, huh? It's time for the gays, they gotta check in. They gotta check in. Yeah, I can see it. I could see it. Raul Alejant. Who hell is this?
Starting point is 01:47:15 Alicia Keys, don't even start, yo. Alicia Keys, listen to, yo, we gonna call you when Jay Z performing in New York. Yeah, that's it. We love you, though. I love Alicia Keys. And shout to Swiss. I'm just saying, right now,
Starting point is 01:47:26 the temperature where we at right now, some Lily White chick. Madonna. I feel like I've seen Madonna's too much. She's over-exposed. Okay. Sing? We don't even know who this is.
Starting point is 01:47:42 You don't got the last name for this, man. Okay? You don't got to... Yo, your brough. Yo. Joe, bro. Okay? When we get on the free Pakistan shit,
Starting point is 01:47:54 maybe we'll holl at you, gang. Or free India, but now ain't your time. Ozuna, nah, nigger. Nah, nigga. Chain smokers? Imagine the Jaggans? That's some white people shit. That's some white people shit right there.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Yo, future don't even try it, nigga. Don't even try it, future. Yo, future, Swaley? Y'all things are not trying. Yeah, man, y'all think's not trying. You better go perform at the NBA, like the NBA finals? Like, I guess y'all ass's going out of here, man.
Starting point is 01:48:25 They want some lily white chick in this bitch, man. Britney Spears? No, she's bad shit crazy. They can't bring her out of hair. Yo, she's been dancing her underwear for the last four years. We cannot bring Britney Spears. Like, trust me, they would warn her. Trust me.
Starting point is 01:48:38 Didn't they have, like, Christina Aguilera at some point? Trust me, they would want Britney Spears. But first of all, she can't keep her clothes on. Number two, she keep playing with scissors. Number three, she moving bat shit crazy, gang. Bat shit crazy. Like, you know she moving bad shit crazy? I don't even think she got a boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:48:55 They're like, nobody even want to wipe that type of craziness up. We're good. We're good Olivia Dean Who is this Nah, you're too black Hell no You're here too curly
Starting point is 01:49:16 You mix of some shit Fuck out of here No, mm-mm Nah, mm-mm Not happening Maluma You sound Spanish It ain't what happened
Starting point is 01:49:24 bro It ain't what happened bro Chat I'm telling you how I was gonna go I'm helping Jay Z right now The fuck? Why this thing
Starting point is 01:49:32 It looks like Vin Diesel Nah hell out of here, nigga Well he's white though Right? Is he white? Is he white? Or is he like You know, the ultimate form is like the white person who's also Spanish,
Starting point is 01:49:44 but they're more white than Spanish. Okay? Nah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. His songs isn't Spanish. Fuck out of here. Fuck out of here. Hell no. Nope.
Starting point is 01:49:59 We're going to go back to some old country, you know, some country songs. That's what we're going to do. Queen, nah, that ain't going to happen. All right, once we're down here, it's getting out of hand. It's getting out of here. Yeah, it's looking bad. I can't lie. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Yeah, burn the boy, we like you, but trust me. If they don't want gangbangers, trust me. They don't want Africans. Like, yo, you know, trust me. Yeah, trust me. Let me tell you how white people look at it. White people look at degenerate gangbangers as right here. They look at like niggas that come from Africa or still over there as like the bottom of the bottom.
Starting point is 01:50:40 You know, I'm going to tell you why. Because at least the gangbangers. They're like, those are the slaves that just didn't learn. They still just acting up. You know, that's our problem. You come from a whole other country, nigga. Talking about Jaluf Rice or some European ebo shit. Ah, hell now, nigga.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Fuck out of here. Hell no. You, America only fuck with the niggas that they enslaved. They don't fuck with other niggins. Hell no. What the fuck? They look at the gangbangers like, well, at one point we had them enslave yourself. Fuck it, you know.
Starting point is 01:51:13 Let him perform. Let him perform. gangbanger anthem what what what what what what what's his one not like us okay fine like let just let just let that knee group of war yo we got burner boy here he's from legos get this yo ice that's what they're going to do facts facts facts with caliphate maybe some wonder public ship all right we're done with this list we're done with this list ass. Nikki got to squabble up with like, you know, um,
Starting point is 01:51:54 Beyonce is some shit. All right. I think we're good. I think we're good. Yeah, it's going to be a tough year. I wonder who they're going to pick. Bieber and them kind of seem like the thing. All right.
Starting point is 01:52:11 Here we go. All right. Are we done with this? Okay. There was like he wrote his reports that Jay-Z was considering making himself the headliner. Jay-Z headline. Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:52:29 And they were quoting, look, yeah. They were quoting Daily Mail, but looked like Daily Mail either changed the story or some shit. Whatever. Who cares? All right. Let's hear what's going on.
Starting point is 01:52:51 So, uh, I hate to break it down to y'all, man. So Daphne Joy, shout to Daphne, you know? You know? Chies to Daphne. Uh, she responded to, Britney Renner, when Britney Renner was dissing me and wanted to like throw some slick shade towards Daphne. Brittany, Brittany Renner, this is Daphne Joy.
Starting point is 01:53:23 Now, the diss originally came from here. Oh yeah, we got to find that. Okay, I'll just play my own video. Brittany, I hate to tell you this and you ain't going to like this. You ain't going to like this. you can learn a thing of two from Daphne Joy. Now, I'm not saying Daphne Joy is better than you. Okay, Daphne Joy is clearly now, like, leaned into her past.
Starting point is 01:54:01 She's had a promiscuous past as well. Let's be honest, okay? We're not trying to say none of y'all are angels. Here's a difference, though. I think she's having a lot of success in this portion of her life after she was just on a criminal trial testifying against Ditty. And it's because she's not doing what you. you're doing. She's not up there being the bitter baby mama,
Starting point is 01:54:23 complaining about this guy and that guy who did her wrong. She's taking whatever lemons that life hand. Yo, Jack, I'll be spitting. And she's turning into lemonade. She's taking whatever perception and she's trying to capitalize off of it. She's not like you in a hot car mad that PJ Washington is buying his chick's Birkins, but he won't buy you, you won't buy a Jansport book bag for your son. She's not doing that. She took lemons. She's making lemonade. That's just what it is.
Starting point is 01:54:53 And I'll give you a little bit of this, too, because I've noticed this. This is why I believe Kevin Gates had you in that guard. Another thing I think a lot of women could take from Daphne's Joy is just watch how the internet, which I still think there's a perception of Daphne's Joy being promiscuous or a whore. But there's subtle things that was able to get her over the hump and people starting to. Okay, I'll finish what I was probably saying. The internet with this new wave of, oh, it's all about feminism, this and third. Dudes are pretty much emasculated or they just clown dudes for being in-cells
Starting point is 01:55:33 or they tell dudes, if you want this, you got to pay for, spend that shit. Being a submissive woman in her feminine energy that respects a man, that isn't trying to combat with him for a leadership role, who is sexy, submissive, these and the third. Which, by the way, women like Brittany Renner usually say, I'm not doing, I'm only doing that for the right man, but the right man got to do X, Y, Z, D, D, P, B, A, C, B, C, B, C, B, C. Good luck, man.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Daphne Joy is hitting you right out the gate with the charm. She's doing things that a traditional woman, and the only thing I was saying to Brittany because I didn't want to like shame Brittany in terms of her past. I was only trying to say to Brittany that, This old school tried and true method of a woman being submissive, sexy, relying upon a man, traditional. Not, oh, I could talk back to you and argue with you and admitting that, hey, I'm looking for a provider. And when you provide, I could be me and I'm comfortable being a woman.
Starting point is 01:56:55 who wants to tend to you. You see, these days, they have shamed women who even say that. Oh, I want to tend to my man. I want to care for him. I want to pamper him. I want to do this. Oh, I want to cook or clean. All of these new bitches been subscribing to Cardi B.
Starting point is 01:57:10 I don't cook. I don't clean. That's like their forte. I don't cook. I don't clean, but niggas pay all my bills. They do nothing. Daphne Joy has been winning. And even though she has a, you know,
Starting point is 01:57:26 she doesn't have a leg up. She actually has her past isn't the best. But she's reminding people of, hey, remember that traditional woman? Remember that, you know, the attractive traditional woman who wants to support her man, she doesn't want to be the person, you know, that's leading. She doesn't want to be the loud mouth, the uncouth swine, the one who acts masculine. the one who is then embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:58:01 The internet fell in love with Daphne Joy. By the way she even talked about B. You know why? Because these loudmouthed foul-talking bitches who don't even know the first, and that's the only credit I was given to Daphne Joy. If you knew how to be a little bit feminine, how to make a man feel like a man
Starting point is 01:58:27 It might sound like oh This sounds like some narcissism shit by men Brough, this been like this from the inception of time You know how to be a lady And that is more attractive than anything else Let me see if I could play the clip I want to play a clip Brittany Renner brings up Daphne Joy again
Starting point is 01:58:52 Let me see if I want to find her clip Britney And I also want to I also want to um I also want to want to say because, you know, I'm anticipating, and I've read what Brittany Runner said before. This is not about race, ladies.
Starting point is 01:59:18 Ladies, it's not about race. And I hate, you know, that some woman. And by the way, Brittany Renner, like, you kind of high yellow, bro. Let's not use the, oh, y'all only apply these things to black women. Brough, you've gotten preference to get posted on all these blogs because you look like you was damn. there not black. Stop it. Don't do that. Because she's going to try to use the, oh, it's because she's not black.
Starting point is 01:59:45 No, nigger, because there's a lot of dark skin melanated women that could use that against you for how far you've gotten. Don't try to use a black thing now with this woman. You just come across masculine, gang, and I'm sorry. The way out shit goes, shit reverts back to the center at all times. It reversed back to the center where people want a feminine woman. Let me see. Maybe, um, all urban central got it. Let me see.
Starting point is 02:00:18 I haven't, why hasn't anybody brought this to your attention? Because this is what I see. And I have only known you for this amount of time. I would rather send a guy off like that than like, like, be like, uh-huh. Hey, my rap. How, totally.
Starting point is 02:00:34 Totally, yeah. Like, ew. like y'all love eating up that daffney joy shit and i'm just like that could never ever be me brittany renner and daffie yo i love what that brittney says that let me say this i like a woman who not lying to herself daphne joy is saying i want to be pretty i want to be pampered i want to be submissive i want to take care of my guy i want to play my role i want to show you Shut the fuck up. I want to please you however sexually.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Okay? You know what a chick like Brittany Renner says? I want to argue all day. Fuck all that. Listen. Like, let's keep it a beam. Y'all know exactly what I'm talking about. And this is what I wanted to say.
Starting point is 02:01:31 And Brittany, by the way, look at your skin complexion and look at hers. Sorry. And by the way, Daphne not white. so don't use the race thing or colorism you've had those favors as well the point is you would like to act like a nigger
Starting point is 02:01:50 here's a difference when Daphne Joy gets provided the fucking Rose Royce she shut the fuck up you know what you did you came on my podcast and said I walked away from that but now I'm like Daphne and Joy are officially at war Okay come on
Starting point is 02:02:13 Okay I'm gonna play the You got to show Okay, okay. Oh, here we go. All right, let me just play this whole thing. And she basically told her, yeah, you could never be me. Y'all love eating up that Daphney. Oh, a little painful. Hey, my breath.
Starting point is 02:02:29 Gosh, you want to help? That could never, ever be neat. Hi, Brittany. That could never be you, and I love that for you. I, on the other hand, have never been should I admit that I absolutely love, love when my man takes care of me. Let me stop it there. Yo, Brittany, you see y'all little feminist chick? Just look at how, like, this is a subtle
Starting point is 02:02:56 shit about Daphne. She's not embarrassed. You see, these days, women really think they're men. Or they like to brag about them having multiple men. She's at least coming from a more traditional thing to say, hey, listen, no, I do like a guy who does take care of me. but shit he's the boss he's the guy he's the guy if he wants me to do something i do whatever that's like a novel idea the fact that daphne joy is lapping you bitches with god damn this is shit my grandmother knew this is shit my great-grandmother knew this is what y'all
Starting point is 02:03:39 your great-grandmother's new is why it's so like shocking because all the chicks that are upset at daphne they can't get past the the thing that oh yo you She had whatever passed. Yeah, but she's counteracting the past by doing something that everybody, grandma, did. Be fucking submissive and just know her role, know her place. And then ended the video by coming for Brittany's looks. But Brittany,
Starting point is 02:04:09 Brittany came back with a whole essay. And frankly, I love taking care of my man. We're both different and that's okay. But Brittany, if you find yourself mentioning me again, Please don't look like you've been fighting dogs all night. Okay, beautiful. Mua. Ciao, chow.
Starting point is 02:04:28 Hey. And here's the next thing. With Britney's attitude, right? Most of these chicks, when they talk about a soft life, they cap it because they still want to be the leader. They want to be the man. They want to tell the nigga what to do. She's the definition of a soft life chick.
Starting point is 02:04:49 Hey, listen. I just want to do me. I'm going to be out the way, supporting you to whatever you want. Chicks like Brittany Redder? Hell no, man. Headache in a headache in a bottle. And she wasn't just throwing shots. She brought up Daphne's appearance.
Starting point is 02:05:09 She brought up her history. She brought up the leaked ditty situation. And then... So Brittany did respond. Here we go. Basically accused the entire culture of having one set of... Okay. Brittany Renner responds to Daphne.
Starting point is 02:05:26 I'll just read it. Here we go. So, Brittany responded to Daphne and said this. Let me zoom out. You can see. She said, I appreciate the exertion you put into doing a video overlay, editing in time, seeking out a proper location. That's thoughtfulness.
Starting point is 02:05:51 And using your words to the best of your abilities, considering it's not your strong suit, which is effort. When you posted me on your actual page and commented on TSR twice, your eagerness initially turned me off to the idea of responded. Nonetheless, I'm glad we're here because verbal sparring is my favorite. I never said anything about your appearance, but let's touch on that. You paid a pretty penny to look like everyone but yourself. You'll chat, my bad.
Starting point is 02:06:23 The moment just dawned on me. I need both of them on a problem. podcast and a moderate and oh my god definitely just sent me a message like two days ago she said i miss you maybe i'll be like listen maybe if i yeah that's what we need i don't need so security here's the thing bro first of all i you know i'm never like i don't hate brittany renter i hope you know you know i've tried to help her way more than anything she could possibly say bad about me right um so at the net whatever
Starting point is 02:07:13 It should be positive in terms of her thoughts about me because I try to help her. Right. I think she's always been good with words. I do think she's good with words. And I actually disagree with her. I think that Daphne Joy is pretty good with words as well. Daphne Joy is she speaks in a submissive language. She doesn't speak in the authoritarian type of, that's more of Brittany.
Starting point is 02:07:45 But if you ask me about communication, both of them are pretty good. Now, obviously, if I had to just be very blunt, if it was a podcast, I do think Brittany kind of has a little bit of edge if she was hosting a podcast. But if it's something where, you know, it's a debate. If it's something where it's a debate in terms of expressing themselves, I actually believe I think both women could hold their own. Anyway, let me keep going. I should set that out.
Starting point is 02:08:18 me, Daphne, chat, you don't think that would be cool? You respond to, uh, Daphne? I think you'll be great. Now, I think the only thing I would want to carve out, um, and I know y'all would want just fiery, personal attacks, like, oh, you did this, you did this, you did this. I think there's a way to, um, and, you know, if you could get both of them to open up a bit, they both just have different ideologies on how they view relationships and deal with men. I think a lot of people, a lot of men, they prefer the Daphne Joy.
Starting point is 02:09:43 I think a lot of women would like to see themselves, especially with the shade room culture or whatever, would like to see themselves with Brittany Renner. Okay? Take all the other bullshit out of it, you know? of course like and by the way you know Daphne's not going to be on on camera like after like she's worked out for three hours Britney's going to look fine
Starting point is 02:10:12 she's not going to be be streaming after she that's where she fucked up again it's harder to look pretty polished when you're trying to stream the thing Daphne gets to when she's chilling out on the balcony under an umbrella and you know
Starting point is 02:10:31 just, you know, tattaz is popping out. She gets to show her best effort. Of course, he's going to look crazy on Britney. That's why, shit, everybody dunked on Britney with that. Yo, are you in a hot car, gang? You sweat. Stop it. But for a podcast, we could kind of nerve that out.
Starting point is 02:10:49 Brittany's going to be looking good. She's a natural woman. We could get that done, right? Not weed, like, but, you know, obviously she's not going to look bummy, my nigga. You know what I mean? Listen, I only clowns. Britney, only clown Britney.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Because, you know, you know how I'm the prettiest nigga online? You're not supposed to go at act. Like, Brittany,
Starting point is 02:11:14 you know damn well it's a losing cause going at me. Like, yo, come on, gang. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 02:11:21 I got meek mill doing voodoo. That's how mad this nigga is. Like, come on, bro. So,
Starting point is 02:11:29 listen, we're going get the flat iron get all everything good get the edges right get the best makeup artist in the world do we need tay tay tay tay tay pause pause i can't call no gay nigga by his by his fucking is that a nickname is it the tay the nigga the nigg the nigg the arrogant tay nigga get the weave or the wig whatever going on have her laid right have her laid right chat that's what i'm saying we get her it right. Get her right. And then, yo, let's get in the room. Matter of fact, I get somewhere
Starting point is 02:12:12 exquisite. We got to do this at a restaurant because I don't want it to be like studio where it's like debating. We just have an open chat about women, femininity, dating and just strategies on how you date. It could be a learning thing more than them getting at each other. Okay? I like that. Somebody says you just be there feeding them strawberries. Nah, I'm just going to be there like, you know, you know? Just, it's a great comment. Brittany, you better not be in your feelings for the little roast that gave you. I gave you some of something light.
Starting point is 02:12:47 Brittany, we got some for you. Matter of fact, I might call Brittany right now. Think she's going to answer? Brittany going to be mad. No, no, no. Do you, does Britney hate me? No way, she hates me. Okay, I'm going to call it.
Starting point is 02:13:08 I just thought of a great idea. We got to like it done. Brittany. Boy! What? You don't be for me yet or no? Of course I love you. Are you ready to kiss and make up yet?
Starting point is 02:13:26 Yes. I just had the most brilliant idea in the world. I had the most brilliant idea. I'm listening. I got it. I got to have you sitting down with, what's what's your name? Daphne.
Starting point is 02:13:40 Trust me. It's the one. Trust me. my god trust me you know i think i think you know all things considered i you know and now some really like you know uh you guys getting at each other but like really a conversation about just dating you know um on both you guys perspective on dating femininity all that type of stuff you know i mean there's clear there's a little bit of uh you know maybe a difference in not only perception but definitely and probably what you won't think.
Starting point is 02:14:13 So I think that would be great. What do you think? I'm open-minded, but I mean, are you going to fucking ride her dick backwards the whole conversation? Are you actually going to... No. What? Don't really.
Starting point is 02:14:27 I'm serious. No. Because... I would line you up like that. Act. Act. Because... About the end of the day.
Starting point is 02:14:34 We're on the day. No, real shit. No, real shit, though. Yeah. The way that you have talked about me and the way that you have uplifted her is fucking nuts to me. Really?
Starting point is 02:14:44 And I'm so, no, it's nuts to me. No, it's nuts to me because I've sat down with you. We have a, like, we had a relationship. We had a friendship. That should really hurt me, the stuff that you said about me. Okay. Okay, Brittany. Like, huh?
Starting point is 02:14:55 Hold on. Have I not uplifted? Hold on. Have I not uplifted you? Have I not uplifted you? Wait, hold on. No. Before we went left on each other was, I've uplifted.
Starting point is 02:15:09 Like, I've always spoke very highly of you. I, first of all. That's, that's cool. Crazy. No, no, no. Huh? You told me I should have to stay on my cheating-ass baby daddy
Starting point is 02:15:18 and called me every fucking horse slut bitch. Like, what? Cut on now. You dug into my shit. Like, what are we talking about? Okay. You have been so disrespectful to me
Starting point is 02:15:30 and in the same breath, you're going to be like, well, she's like the female version of me. So which one is it? Wait, hold on. Hold on. Here's the thing. Okay, maybe I was definitely
Starting point is 02:15:40 colorful in the language, but you do know that is my stance. Like, I've been saying it even to Cardi B. I tell Cardi B, listen, don't go get another cheater. Stay with your original cheater. I think Cardi B should have never went with goddamn Stefan Diggs. The word out about him, he's the biggest cheater ever. Stay with the guy. Offset. He ain't shit, but you picked him. Come on. That's crazy. No, no, no. Okay, but here's the thing. That's been my perspective. What I'm saying is I didn't like start a different perspective to like down you, right? And we do
Starting point is 02:16:12 disagree on certain perspectives, obviously I think there is a, there is certain things that probably went in the realm of like, okay, act, you're like, disrespecting now. And probably same with you. That's what I said. We're kissing and making up. And, um, and I'm telling you, I'm telling you, this is, this is, this would be groundbreaking. And I promise you, I would not ride, wait, pause on the right of dick. Like, get out of here. All right. I'm open to it. Two women, right?
Starting point is 02:16:46 Two women who, here's the thing. Beyond the very, like, you know, you both could throw shade and like, you know, she threw some shade, you threw some shade. Great. But you too, and you know what I've always said about you, I do believe you being able to eloquently express yourself. Even if I don't agree is your biggest asset. I think she's someone who could. I think at least spar with you to a certain extent in terms of even the differences and I think
Starting point is 02:17:17 that's where the content is going to come in because I'm going to be honest with you I think people probably look at you and probably look at her and probably be like okay there's differences in similarities and however that combo goes in you know somewhat of a respectful way you know that's what I'm saying I'm not going to be there gaslighting it could be something that's you know, beneficial for everybody, but also entertaining. Right? So that's what I was thinking. I'm glad you picked up my phone call, though.
Starting point is 02:17:47 Thank you. I mean, the truth of the matter is is that I love you. I always have. I've always thought highly of you. Obviously, I wanted to work together. You absolutely pissed me the fuck off. I felt slighted because you didn't call me. Like, there's just so many different things where it's just like, dude,
Starting point is 02:18:03 like we can do this where we can just put each other down. but at the end of the day, we two sides of the same coin in a different way. Like, we're polarizing, but still very similar. So, I mean, yeah, I mean, of course I'm going to pick up the, I would have picked up the phone if he would have called me back then, too. I would have picked up the phone at any point in time when I responded to you if you wanted to have a conversation. Because I see on your stream, you call everybody, you called everybody but me,
Starting point is 02:18:27 but I'm glad I got my call today. Okay. All right. All right, check. Y'all hold me accountable. y'all hold me accountable if i did wrong did i fuck up by not calling brittany because i'm not going to lie you know of course i was going to be like you know what i'm going to have a little bit of a softer side pause for for for brittany because obviously you know our relationship but i was like
Starting point is 02:18:51 i still got to call it like it is but i could see how that came off harsh chat should have given her a call before i think you could have asked from my perspective and we could have respectfully disagreed Because at the end of the day, like, I mean, you kind of know where I stand. Like, I mean, everybody can call me whatever they want to call me, but I do stand for something. And there was a clip that you had did years and years ago that came up on my memory where it was like, you were like, she could have taken the easy way out of 100 times and she never did. And I respect the fuck out of her because of that. So it's like, yeah, that's what I stand on. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:19:23 And at the end of the day, like my situation is my situation. I have no shame in it. I stand on all the decisions I've made and where it's brought me to this point. but it's just like yeah it's not it's not something to poke fun out it's like i mean i think in general too when you stand for something it is something that appreciates with time you might not have that instant gratification or that money in your account like right away but it's going to pay off in the long run so i mean anything fast doesn't last so i think that's just where whatever but point is to your question i would absolutely love to sit down with her like i said i don't have a problem
Starting point is 02:19:57 with her i have a problem with platforms like yours that were uplifting her and i'm so Oh, no, okay. Oh, no, no. Like, I don't like all that shit. By the way, that's why. Come, man. That's crazy. That's why I think it would be.
Starting point is 02:20:11 And by the way, I'm even open like, you know, to having even someone else there to like, you know. So this is how I think about this. This is a conversation that happens. And when I'm scrolling the internet, when I go on like pages like mine, right? Like, so let's say my Instagram page. You know, I'm. I know there's a lot of men who are watching my page or they subscribe or whatever. And to them is very attractive.
Starting point is 02:20:41 Like there's something attractive about Daphne. Okay. Even despite whatever her past is attractive because their frustration is, well, women aren't like that anymore. And then I go to like the Shady Room and people are like, well, you guys only feel that way about her, but you guys don't feel that way about X, Y, Z. So it's like a conversation where I see it differ, depend on who is talking about it and who is, you know, kind of viewing it. Right.
Starting point is 02:21:08 So it was like, like, I guess I was saying like if I don't know, whoever moderator from like even like the Shadyroom, I would love for them, me and them to just kind of, because it's a multi-platform thing. When I see you get posted or Daphne get posted and it being talked about on various blogs, the conversation changes based on who's, watching it.
Starting point is 02:21:31 Men are going to be like, yo, she blew the chance. She blew the bag. Daphne's smart because she's like she's submissive and she's X, Y, and Z. When I go on Hollywood Unlocked or when I go on the neighborhood talk or I go on the shade room, the conversation looks a bit different because it's mostly women who are looking at it in a different lens.
Starting point is 02:21:56 You get what I'm saying? And what I've always given you credit for is that, And that's why I, like, I had so much belief in you as a podcast because you have the ability to eloquently articulate yourself, but also deal with these issues. And again, I told you, I don't agree with you with many things. But that's the greatness of why I think you're important because the bridge that's not happening is the, like, when people come on on my, I'm on Instagram. it's like the Taliban, you know what I mean? And then you go over there and it's like the opposite. The conversations aren't the same.
Starting point is 02:22:36 So how do you get both things to talk to each other? And, you know, that's what content is. Content is going to drive conversation around, okay, all right, it's challenging some of the things that we thought is normal or things that we thought is okay or whatever. So, you know, that's my thought about it. And I'll give you this. right um based on on our you know relationship um i didn't think i went that hard so i didn't think that it was something that i was like i should check in with you but i should i should and by the way
Starting point is 02:23:11 you know we're on air now i i will i will call you off of this you know um irregardless if this happens or not just to kind of like you know talk just me and you well i would appreciate that i it's nice to hear from you and i mean i want this conversation to happen I'm passionate about humanity, so in progressing us all forward. So, yeah, we have to have, like you said, communication is the bridge to clarity. So I think we should have these conversations, whether we agree to disagree or not, you know. But, I mean, I'm open-minded. So, I mean, I know if anybody can make it happen, it'll be used.
Starting point is 02:23:45 So you just let me know, set it up, and I'll be ready to go. I would love to talk. I love to tour. All right, perfect. Okay. I will hit you offstream, like personal combo, but thank you very. honestly I miss you I love you and I always will sweetie thank you I love you all right bye just like that beef squash chat love Brittany perfect okay let me get this off
Starting point is 02:24:13 the screen shit my bad I shouldn't have to have that my bad I should have okay right chat I'm telling you yo put it like this meek is the only dummy that I'm like yo he's just taking a two-sit you know if meek was like really dope and like really cool I would have to call up meek and be like yo meek let's have the debate of a century my nigga but I could tell that this little bunny hopping nigga he is doing juju all type of bullshit I'm like let's get this nigga on out of here all right so cool so we'll try to see if there's something there you know obviously I don't you know honestly I would not try to facilitate it if it was going to be a tearing down of each other okay um a open
Starting point is 02:24:58 conversation. So I know y'all be like, yo, instigator act clocking. No, that would not be what it is. I just think that in 2026, there are different ways of how women are attracting men and sometimes women claim they want a certain type of men, but they move a certain way, or sometimes women or men say they want certain type of women, but they move a certain type of way. And that sometimes that clarity and even speaking about it is great. Anyway, okay, let me finish, let me finish what, what Brittany was saying. And then since I've had that conversation, we will, we'll leave it offline for now until I speak to, of course, Britain. Well, I'm going to speak to Brittany, but until I speak to, I want to speak to Daphne.
Starting point is 02:25:54 Okay. You said, I never said anything about your appearance, but let's touch on that. You paid a pretty penny to look like everyone but yourself. You're overfilled and I'm still underwhelmed. There are more girls who look like you than girls who look like me, and I prefer it that way. Fake on its best day will never hold a candle to natural. So let us wrap, I like that, let us wrap that up.
Starting point is 02:26:26 And transition to the actual plot and the point of why you caught astray in my videos from July that you're now referencing. Also, L-O-L at it taking you this long to conjure up a reply. But valor in any form is refreshing to see the world is healing. I don't have a problem with you. I have a problem with the grading system. And by the way, this is kind of would be the source of the content that I would want to have with these women, right? She says, I don't have a problem with you.
Starting point is 02:26:56 I have a problem with the grading system. Nobody black will be able to go on a press run. Now, I disagree with this, by the way. after a leaked tape with the didler, while having a teenage son and being celebrated as the face of women should be, the way you were on those same primarily black platforms, where either all, what's this, whores, or none of us are. I am merely a mirror.
Starting point is 02:27:19 My beef will forever be with the picking and choosing, the glamorization of prostitution and the patriarchy. I've been recently studying. Care to share your thoughts regarding those things specifically? I'd love to touch on topic. Roof, roof. Okay. All right, y'all.
Starting point is 02:27:39 We're going to try. We're going to try, bro. We're going to try. Mm-mm-mm-mm. There you go. All right. Kind of happy that we, you know. Right.
Starting point is 02:27:59 Perfect. Listen, at the end of the day, you know, I think for us dudes, I think for us, you know, give me two minutes. I'm just explaining all this. So here's the thing. Like on my page, I see a lot of people say we want the Daphne's, right? Now, here's what I think. If you want the Daphnees, you've got to be a provider, right?
Starting point is 02:28:29 You can't be the 50-50 guy. You want to go 50-50 with your girl? You're not getting a Daphne. You're going to get somebody who's going to be talking back to you. you're going to have somebody who's going to be and not just a provider the chick who wants to be pampered a bit too she wants to live what they really call
Starting point is 02:28:50 the soft life you like a Brittany she might be quote quote more realer more down to earth you know she's not as bougie she's natural right however
Starting point is 02:29:06 you're going to have to still take some of the There's good and bad both sides. That's where I think that guys have to like figure out, right? So it's like, if you get with a Brittany, she's a little bit less boozy. She's not going to be like, oh, shit. Mawfucking, you're not, I don't know, you're not flying me first class, whatever it is.
Starting point is 02:29:32 She might be cooler with other things. However, she might be on a 50-50 wave with you. right she might also want to make the decisions she's going to argue with you endlessly and you know i'm saying that in jest because like we've seen brittany do the opposite because i've seen her with kevin gait she wasn't saying a motherfucker thing so i don't know that could be a good conversation to have um whatever at least me and brittany don't hate each other for life right okay where are we going we want to go to some FOMO. There's some Drake FOMO breakdown. There's like some hidden secrets that I see people have
Starting point is 02:30:33 which is it this? It's either this or this video. Let me see. Is it this? Let me open both. Drake's FOMO project gave us a bunch of crazy. He leaves that. Okay. All right. So Drake's FOMO thing just videos stitched together. Okay. All right. Let's just watch this first one. Come on. Drake's FOMO project gave us a bunch of crazy visuals for Habibti and made of honor. Plus a bunch of of new music. But underneath all of that, I think he's telling us something deeply personal throughout the film and especially in that final shot. It connects all the way back to 2016, where Drake once said he was praying for the exact reaction that happened after Hotline Bling took over the world, the memes, the jokes, and even the ridicule. One might think that
Starting point is 02:31:26 would be a moment he'd want people to move on from, but instead 10 years later, he ends his FOMO project back inside that exact video set. Now, when you connect that return with the message in the fomo trailer and the people he brings into this film i think he's asking something deeply personal how many of his greatest moments in life would even exist if he had let that fear of looking stupid stop him and interesting let me go to drake's page and you know i have spoke to some people's i want to go back to what he wrote in his long thing he said fomo september 15th 9 p.m a not-so short film live on YouTube, Spotify and Apple. This is self-funded surrealism.
Starting point is 02:32:19 A story about making the absolute most of it all in one summer. Credit to nobody but the members. Here's some life advice before you watch. Nobody's coming to save you. We must use each and every day to decipher who you love and trust and march forward with them. Hope this serves as motivation to make that call, take that trip, drop that song, open that shop, see your parents leave that relationship or stay in it forever.
Starting point is 02:32:41 spend that bread or get more or get some more they keep saying our genres dying videos don't matter nobody's watching nobody's listening I still care as much as I deal on the set of best I ever had so be kind of rewind okay I obviously
Starting point is 02:33:01 want to have a business conversation about FOMO I think that's the most important part that everybody's missing but I do want to talk about it creative a little bit if you're asking what FOMO is FOMO is it's people not realizing the moments that are passing
Starting point is 02:33:23 being stuck on the past or being focused on the future that's it FOMO is really important for somebody like Drake for the last two years they've talked all the stuff about him
Starting point is 02:33:39 in the world he's done, he's this, he's that, he has to do this, he better do that, he better chill, he better take a break in those moments he's had his opportunity to not only have whatever you might think self-reflection is, but to also live life. So the idea of FOMO is that for Drake
Starting point is 02:34:09 is that these moments that probably everybody ridiculed, like, oh, it looks stupid. He's with a goth girl. Look at this. Like, why is he doing this? These are the moments that makes, this summer great for him. This summer is a summer of celebration.
Starting point is 02:34:26 Ice man's already out. He told you, I'm going to have a good summer. And rather thinking about the next thing, yes, there's tour, yes, there's much music, yes, we'll see what happens with UMG, but is enjoying the actual moments every single, like all these things are happening. And here's the bigger message,
Starting point is 02:34:51 but probably one of the most important message on a, one of the most important message on a creative level is that if you've thought about all the biggest themes about Drake, and this is where all the critics went into FOMO thinking about, is he going to respond? Who is he dissing? The biggest thing about FOMO is that for Drake, life has returned to what it is.
Starting point is 02:35:25 It's not about two years ago. It's not he's not he's not living in these past moments He's not Trying to do anything else He's just Bro, look at FOMO Look Sorry
Starting point is 02:35:42 Just look at it All right so Drake's FOMO thing just Oh sorry It starts out It starts out literally By showing some of the most mundane things. It starts out with Drake at his $100 million mansion
Starting point is 02:36:01 just fucking trimming the shrubs, the bushes, whatever. It's a symbol, y'all. Everything is a symbol. On the OVO chain I got, on the back of it is engraved. It says something about the war. I forgot what it is.
Starting point is 02:36:25 It's not a chain. But it basically said we went through the war. FOMO's signified. identifies Drake going back to regular life. After the battle, the songs he dropped afterwards, everyone is, what is he going to do? What is, this Iceman and those three drops answered him. FOMO is back to regular life,
Starting point is 02:36:55 back to the regular mundane things, but enjoying those things and thinking about something that happened two years ago or thinking about something that might happen next year. That's FOMO. Okay? Just watch the visuals. It all matches.
Starting point is 02:37:13 It shows him doing very regular things. He's lifted. He's cleaning his studio. He's writing a narrative that you guys should believe. He's doing an interview without him doing an interview. Whatever questions you might have. Did you hear the questions of people saying, yeah, but he finally has to.
Starting point is 02:37:43 to move on. He's moved on. He's moved on. He did whatever addressing he needed to do on Iceman. He's moved on. So what does that mean? He's going to be a little bit goofy. He's going to be, you know, trying new things, still working, always putting out content, but also reflecting on life. You see his mom. You see his, you see his, you see his family. He featured his family on take care. You're watching somebody, even if you don't agree with everything. Again, I don't, I'm not a goth guy, brother. But you're watching somebody just be himself. Not be like somebody who is like super worried about, damn.
Starting point is 02:38:40 Yo, they say I lost a rap battle. Damn, what should I do? Damn, I'm. He's just doing his thing. And also along with that when it comes to FOMO, this is his, and I think he could claim the IP on. this is how he could test music, preview music. Remember when he did the episodes?
Starting point is 02:39:03 We heard beats that he later used. We heard him trying shit. We heard things that he threw out there. What did the captions say? He says, they keep saying our genres die and videos don't matter. He's found his way to impact the game with visuals. Drake has dropped like 20 music videos if you've realized it from those last projects
Starting point is 02:39:35 and then this formal release. They've broken up. Just go to his YouTube. It's his way of communicating. Well, just go to his channel. Look. By the way, I believe the Quebec song is new. By the way, it got taken down and put back up.
Starting point is 02:39:59 Here's the thing. UMG is really behind the eight ball. We're going to talk about business in a second. but we get a music video for Cheetah print. We get a music video in an extended version for classic. True bestie. You see his mom in that. Right?
Starting point is 02:40:15 New bestie. Whole phase. Outside tweaking. You have to realize, and this is what I was saying about even rolling an album out, the initial rollout was focused on Iceman. It was to answer to every critic, every fan who loved them,
Starting point is 02:40:33 everybody who said, what are you going to do after this beef? How are you going to respond with the battle? Well, Iceman was that. When you get to Made of Honour and Abiti, he's outside having a good time. And that's where he's at now. It's celebrating those records.
Starting point is 02:40:54 Hanging out with Gordo. Hanging out with Gordo, just being outside, just having fun. That's where he's at now. So again, one thing I've always liked about Drake's music, which I still like now, is that he's always true to where he's at. And I know, like, you know, first of all, y'all know,
Starting point is 02:41:20 I love drill music, but I love music that's just honest. So if you kill 10 niggas, I want you to rap about him 10 niggas you kill. If your life is exactly what Drake is doing, and he's rapping about it honestly, when he was talking about so-and-so from Petri, whatever, He's always been honest. This is what his life is at now.
Starting point is 02:41:42 So the visuals for FOMO is him experiencing Ice Man's Out. And now the other two albums, which has lived lovely. And I'm not even on the charts, but just outside. I love National Treasure. I love
Starting point is 02:42:01 Make Him Cry. I love Make Him Pay. I like Make Him Remember. I like Little Birdie. I like songs like that. But the real honest truth is that when you go outside to these parties or whatever, people are enjoying these other albums. And he's enjoying those moments. Okay. So I've explained what FOMO is.
Starting point is 02:42:28 Okay? From a creative standpoint, just watch the visuals. He filmed what he was doing this summer, giving back to all the many beautiful women from Toronto to New Jersey to New York to like all the Janice's like he filmed what he did. This to me this is art because it's also natural. It's not forcing it. I give you one better. You know how I didn't even talk to him.
Starting point is 02:43:18 But you know how I knew he was going to probably remix something of Ella Langley. I'm in DR. He calls me. And he wanted me to come to Texas. He's like, yo, come to Texas. They get on air drinking. Let's go to Morgan Wallen's concert. He's like, I want to see Ella Langley.
Starting point is 02:43:41 He's like, you've been checking around? I'm like, El Langeley, who the fuck is this? But he was like super interested back then. Very natural. Like, that's what it. Like, he's been fucking with it. I know he's been fucking with like, he's like survived. does a remix of the song.
Starting point is 02:44:03 You get what I'm saying? So it's like, these are just natural things that I think has been happening. You know, I don't know everything, but like, everything seems to me
Starting point is 02:44:12 like it's some natural shit. So FOMO is him not looking at his summer as basing it on the past or basing on what's going to come. I've heard the tour is going to be one of the craziest shit possible, which I'm in disbelief about because I've been to the last tour
Starting point is 02:44:29 and the tour was fucking. and fire. But I've heard this next one is, who, I don't know. That's all the details I got. Hang on a lot. But I've heard this next to, who,
Starting point is 02:44:40 who, 2027, yo, just send a wire transfer to Live Nation or whatever, whoever's selling the tickets. I heard this tour is out of this world.
Starting point is 02:44:51 I'm going to get some more details. But, yeah. So you get the fact that in this whole summer, he's been celebrating. He's been celebrating. You get what I'm saying? Just celebrating.
Starting point is 02:45:14 Let me put some perspective on it. He's came to terms with all the fake friends, with all the people who, you know, he probably watch, like all that, all this whole thing about betrayal and everything he kind of addressed on on on on ice man whether it's a LeBron thing whether it's a a fucking Calid thing or whatever damn shit yo you um he came to terms with it he realized at this point the people who were there for him how he was taking advantage of in certain situations just you got to move on from that so he's not living in the past anymore
Starting point is 02:46:06 And that's what FOMO you got to realize it is. He's not living in the past. He's not living for the future. Iceman is a championship. It's a win. And he was hell-bent on having a fucking great summer. Turning up, doing his thing. And yes, when you felt like you've gotten a win
Starting point is 02:46:27 and you're looking around and it doesn't look like everybody's getting wins like you, yeah, you get to do some silly stupid shit. And I'm telling you these things because I don't like, bro, like, I know y'all might be like, oh, this is Drake, dick, rat. Nigger, I don't like painting nails. I don't like duck lips and I don't like goth bitches. Like, come on, bro. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 02:46:48 Okay. Like, come on. But I could understand a nigga who's just having it in his way, nigga. Like, he's just doing his thing. You get what I'm saying? And for the people who think that, you know, who's had these like, oh, he's. needs to do this and he needs to do this. This was the ultimate
Starting point is 02:47:10 fuck you to say, no, I'm going to just be exactly what I want to be in this moment. From the people he's meeting, to the things he's doing, to even this fucking goofy-ass scene where he's dancing. Right? I still think this jacket's a little bit one size too small.
Starting point is 02:47:28 But he's just having his way, bro. Right? Like, yeah, this is a little bit goofy. Of course. You get what I'm saying? Like, yo, brother, Have y'all ever caught like just a big win in life And you're just like you're alone and not giving a fuck about who is looking at you're doing whatever And you're celebrating that's what ice man was He's celebrating that
Starting point is 02:47:51 When me and him talk about ice man we talk about it like that's a championship All these motherfuckers who doubt it whatever Everything you had to address everything you had to get off his chest Everybody who said he couldn't do whatever or it's whatever Oh this was the moment that he is everything if it was if he was down one three he won four three he did the comeback whatever it is now doesn't have to live in that moment it's moving on it's having fun okay and just look he's having fun and he's having fun with the people that he wants to have fun with I hope that's
Starting point is 02:48:38 important to this is the first time I've ever seen Drake in he's in a form where I don't feel like I feel like he's being selfish and like exclusive he's he's outside doing shit but he only wants to do it with the people that he likes yes you're mad that he's with sexy red you're gonna see him with sexy red 20 more times
Starting point is 02:49:08 that's his dog oh you don't like that he's with Ben to Don oh he's gonna be with Ben even 40 more times he's doing what he wants it's cool chill out He's learned a lot from friendships in this industry. When you try to befriend people, they look at you for what they could gain from you.
Starting point is 02:49:29 Look at Calid. The moment they can't use you anymore, the moment that you're in hot water, they disappear. Learning to accept letdowns, disappointment, betrayals, backstabbing, friends who are only there when you could do them a favor,
Starting point is 02:49:52 this is what you're seeing. This is what you're seeing. So you're going to see the sexy, Breads. Okay? Just click through the video. He's showing you. He went to Turks to celebrate.
Starting point is 02:50:13 He went to Turks to celebrate. Stunner Sandy? That's his dog. He connected with her as an artist. Like, he really fucks for her. Trust me. I know. And, like, you know,
Starting point is 02:50:38 like on some, not some weird shit. Like he he fucks with her and Through getting to know her working with her Came up with some good shit Not gonna lie, he's fucking with her More than a lot of people he's worked with in the past That's what I told you out like a couple months ago
Starting point is 02:50:55 If you if you're still like hanging on to like Oh he did a bunch of songs with you know I like Rick Rose I'm not trying to listen Be like Rick Ross he got to go do more so No he's not he's not going back to there And it's not just Rick Ross. It's like whoever else you think he collided with. You're either going to accept that he and how he's seen things and how he's living,
Starting point is 02:51:23 or you're going to keep trying to force what you think he should be doing. So just keep going through it. This is he went to turks. This is him taking a break. Obviously, he's also trying to make some jokes too. You know what I mean? I think this is a chef. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:51:47 Yeah. Now, there's a bunch of Easter eggs in here, too. A bunch of Easter eggs, you know? but generally he's showing you how he's flown between hanging with other artists, hanging with girls, you know, partying, working,
Starting point is 02:52:03 hanging with family. It's all through it and that's what FOMO is. FOMO is, don't miss out on the moment in front of you, thinking about the moment to come or the moment that passed. Click that right there, that's it. Don't miss out on the moment in front of you.
Starting point is 02:52:24 thinking about a moment that passed or thinking about a moment that ain't even come enjoy it all now that's it um yeah i'll let this play a little bit any more you know additions i could give to it i will and the way he leaves that room in the end is what brings it all together the best example of this is just look at what happened with pink chute people clown Drake for barking at the goth girl when she asked him to during that 20v1 video, he could have left the whole interaction there. But instead, he brings her into FOMO, they're shopping at Hot Topic, she dresses him as a goth, they're at medieval times watching gladiators fight. The guy took the thing people were laughing at and making fun of endlessly
Starting point is 02:53:14 online and made another experience out of it. And if you caught my last video, you know I called the new music coming, the Don Tolliver feature, choose in Texas, the filming location at Canada's Wonderland and much, much more. So make sure to subscribe if you're here for real news, insights, and the story behind the story. And now, let's take a look at that trailer. It described two different lives, one where you avoid risk and withhold love, another where you find what you're looking for. Now look at who gets to share these experiences with him.
Starting point is 02:53:44 Pink Chew gets picked apart endlessly online, as many women, unfortunately do. People even criticize whether she's a real goth. They don't even realize they are enforcing rules around a subculture that's associated with rejecting everybody else's expectations. The irony is blatant. Then there's Lennon the Plug. She has spent years having strangers try and shame her career in adult entertainment and her publicly open relationship with Adam 22. Whatever you think of those choices, she keeps living her life. Then there's Winnie Harlow, who's spoken about being bullied for her Vitilago and turned away by modeling agencies before ever building her career.
Starting point is 02:54:19 Obviously, those are different experiences, having a sense. skin condition isn't a life choice but there's a connection in having people tell you that something about you makes you unacceptable do you spend your life trying to satisfy them then there's that line in that so miss my dogs with he Drake says he may another thing to add chat he's breaking down the norms okay the people who say Drake are the biggest artist in the world you shouldn't stand next to a porn star Lenda the plug. You're the biggest artist in the world.
Starting point is 02:55:01 You shouldn't openly stand next to academics. You're the biggest artist in the world. You should be mysterious, not show us you being self-deprecating, making fun of yourself, or doing something goofy. You should manage your brand. Who gives the fuck? Made something of his life, and it fits right into this. These women have made me.
Starting point is 02:55:31 something out of their lives while people are still endlessly debating whether they approve but when you look at that alongside the message from the trailer and the themes of FOMO it really all starts to click together but it's definitely obvious that Drake understands what it feels like to put yourself out there and become the joke in that 2016 interview with Zane Lowe he credited Tanisha Scott with encouraging him to be himself and have fun making hotline bling he said he expected the reaction and he was comfortable getting through those first few days think about what that requires you release something knowing once you put it out there there's nothing you can do about it now imagine making
Starting point is 02:56:06 everything with yeah and if you know i mean you should be able to realize that just just look at the opening scene bro bro drake dancing is like equivalent to drake in you know the one with him and chris brown was like oh we're doing the snake i'm doing it whatever like and it was him and chris brown um what's name of that song i forgot it i forgot it yeah bro like you think drake did this and be like, nah, niggas is going to say, I'm lit. They're going to be clown. This is what's going to be the meme. I'm going to give you the meme.
Starting point is 02:56:40 Hotline, blink. I'm giving you the meme, nigga. I'm giving you the meme. This is not like some false confidence. Like, oh, let me show people like a dance. It's like, nah, nigga, like, let me give you exactly what you want to laugh at me. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 02:57:10 With the comments section already running through your head, you've probably experienced the other side of that. You hear a song, enjoy it, and then open the comments, and suddenly everyone is saying, you're glazing just for enjoying it. You're suddenly defending yourself for enjoying music or content. Someone spends months making something and your introduction is a seven-second clip telling you why it's embarrassing. You get the verdict before you've even experienced the product. And now, this goes for so many different things. A lot of people with FOMO, their first reaction is probably seeing people
Starting point is 02:57:39 mocking Drake for doing fun and silly things just because he's 39 years old. Apparently, if you get close to the age of 40, you can no longer dance or have fun. Watching FOMO live, I was enjoying what came next. Big Sandy having a girl's day while true bestie juxtaposes their lifestyle. Don Tolliver pops up out of nowhere. All the new music. Then Drake's dressed as Iron Man. It was a hilarious ride from start to finish.
Starting point is 02:58:02 And he's putting effort into the fun. The visuals for Made of Honor and Habibti, the comedy, the features, the cinematography. Four months after the three albums he dropped in May, he never stopped working. He called it self-funded surrealism. Before it aired, he said he still cared like he did on the set of Best I Ever Had. But there's still complications while he's having the time of his life. When Drake shows up to Canada's Wonderland, his date seemingly stands him up, but he doesn't go home because he rented the park.
Starting point is 02:58:28 So he goes through all the classic aspects of a day at Wonderland. Hits all the rides, wins the stuffed animals, he even has himself a funnel cake while sitting there solo. Then he's riding the roller coaster alone, a somber yet exhilarating moment, showing that even when life doesn't go according to plan, you still go through with it. In the words of Hunter S. Thompson, buy the ticket, take the ride. You've got the highs and lows, obviously. but the empty space around him is what stands out here.
Starting point is 02:58:53 Millions of people can watch your life and tell you how you should feel. Let me tell you what that means. And as Drake fans, I think we've prayed for this moment. Drake is finally happy alone. And what I mean by that, even in a career sense, I'm not saying that Drake ever felt he needed to be around other artists or kind of drift to like wherever like the happening thing was. but I think in the last 24 months,
Starting point is 02:59:32 he's realized whatever path I'm going to take or I'm going to go down for the next whatever amount of time, I'm okay alone. You heard it on the intro, make him cry. He's talking as if other people. It says, it says, oh, so when I dig deep, they say dig deeper. No, no, I'll even go back.
Starting point is 03:00:06 It says, what died in 2024 was a big, peace. So it's like this shit is me, but it isn't me. Y'all keep asking me what it did to me. That's what it did to me. When I dig deep, they say dig deeper. Tell us how it felt to meet the Grim Reaper. This album, it better have some big features.
Starting point is 03:00:24 Well, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm all alone for my mental and I've been trying to end so many people, almost forgot the intro. He basically told you this idea of like, you know, being with whoever, just whoever. He's, he's, he's retired from it.
Starting point is 03:00:45 And I think that's going to be a new, a new thing. The guy who wanted to be cool and friends with everybody, and if you had a dope song, he'll go hop on it and this and third, and now y'all are quote, quote, friends. He's kind of just like doing his own thing now. Like, he's like, you know what?
Starting point is 03:01:11 I'm going to just focus on me. I don't think it's the best thing. I'm going to be honest with you. And I love Drake. I don't think it's the best thing. Because when Drake does this, I've always said, I criticize Kendrick for this. I think artists need to help each other.
Starting point is 03:01:28 But I can't be mad at him doing this. Why I keep trusting these niggins? Why I keep, you know, like, at this point, who did the heavy lifting on all the albums? Drake pretty much was pretty much by himself. Obviously, he had features. I'm not going to say he didn't have features, but. And I think that's where he's at right now.
Starting point is 03:01:50 This was a symbol of that. when it came time for a moment, he's the only one who showed up to the park. And rather than, you know, try to figure out why other people aren't there, he said, fuck it. I only need me. And I think a lot of, you know,
Starting point is 03:02:10 a lot of supporters, we've been waiting for this from Drake. We don't need you with so-and-so and with so-and-so and with so-and-so. Niggas just do you. That's uncharted territory. But I'm still a little bit sad by it because those Drake collabs and like him kind of always spreading his gifts to other people
Starting point is 03:02:34 has gotten us for a lot of great moments. But you know, at the point where, you know, you're feeling like you're being used and abused or people not, you know, they're only there when they could gain something or, yeah, at a certain point, you've got to be like, man, I got to focus on me, man. You're still the only one that is actually going through it. So participating doesn't mean everything feels good. There can still be loneliness. You can still get hurt.
Starting point is 03:03:03 I see somebody said, oh, well, he has down top. I'm not saying he's not going to do features. What I'm saying is that we've used to Drake being really cool with a bunch of people. Like, yo, you know, I don't want to mention any names. What I'm saying is that at this point, he's playing for keeps. He's playing for keeps. Question is, what you give up if you never get on the ride. And that's where the career rewind that happens at the end becomes more than a collection of familiar locations.
Starting point is 03:03:42 Some of them show you this whole theme connecting. Started from the bottom takes us back to Shoppers Drug Mart. People questioned that degrassy kid telling that story, coming up from a humble beginning into the immense success that Drake has reached now. But he told it anyway. The Take Care table location makes that emotional risk even clearer. In that same 2016 interview, Drake said thank me later, came from feeling like he had to show people he was accepted. Look who I can get on a song.
Starting point is 03:04:07 Look who I'm working with. For take care, he gave himself more time at home to follow through on his vision. Him and 40 leaned into the sound they'd already started building on and so far gone, something that was true to them. And 40 said releasing that dark, somber music felt risky at first. They didn't know how people would receive it. And then think about what that became. They helped turn that moody Toronto sound into something that was recognized around the world. The heartbreak and insecurity that people called Drake's soft for became one of the main reasons that listeners connected to him.
Starting point is 03:04:35 Playing it safe could have cost him the connection those songs created. Headlines locations bring back that same era, his first single off of Take Care, which was literally about how the headlines always seemed to follow him, no matter what he did. God's plan recalls him giving away that nearly million dollar video budget with a risk of going against his label to spread love and help real people. Again, a risk he had to take for the love and passion of what he was. is doing. Tuesday slide takes us inside his house during lockdown doing another dance that people would call corny and ridicule, but it would go number one and become a lockdown sensation. Then there's the work location that was for the Rihanna music video at the Toronto restaurant, the real jerk, where again,
Starting point is 03:05:14 people would criticize him for stepping out of the rap lane and doing something that could affect his credibility by doing these types of songs obviously aimed at a woman's demographic. And then there's the Monroe Towers from some sexy songs for you. Even that project with party, fits this theme. It was a defiant moment of Drake's career where he returned to music after the biggest rat beef of all time, everybody waiting on what he's going to say next, and he dropped an R&B collab album that had a range of genre-bending and daring songs. You recognize the places, but you also remember the music and the time in your life that's attached to it. You don't have to love every decision to see how much those decisions created. Now, run that whole career backwards
Starting point is 03:05:54 with a different rule. Don't do anything people might laugh at. Don't put that feeling in the song. They'll call you soft. Don't dance like that. They'll make you a meme. Don't go back to the goth girl. They're already laughing at you. But think about it through pretty much everything that he's done. How much is left? Back when he did SNL, hosted the S-Bs, it's been his entire career. Even from Best I Ever Had, that music video itself was over the top and ridiculous. Of course there's nostalgia and image management going on here in FOMO, but Drake knows the value of reminding people what he's given them. And he's still taking shots in the music. I'm not saying he's unbothered. It's just that you can be hurt and still go out and create something. Enjoy your
Starting point is 03:06:32 life. You don't have to wait until you're over everything to continue. And that brings us back to Hotline Blink. He's inside those glowing rooms again. Then a crew member brings over a step ladder and Drake climbs out. A real beautiful moment. After all those memories were reminded that this world is a set. He can revisit it without staying there. The surrealism ends. Put that alongside his message, be kind and rewind. Be kind to one another. Stop with it. endless hate and ridiculing. Let people enjoy things. Look back on your own life. Look back on what you've enjoyed. And to me, he's looking back at what putting himself out there gave him the music, the relationships, the memories, and ultimately the success. But he doesn't stay there. He
Starting point is 03:07:12 steps out of that old moment and keeps making new ones. That's what connects the goth outfit, take care, and that final room from Hotline Blink. They were all risks. They were all things that were just supposed to be fun. And you don't need Drake's life to wreck. Okay. I, I, I, I, I like this breakdown. Shout to this guy. Straight formal. There's another guy who had a breakdown. I want to see if there was an eight minute one.
Starting point is 03:07:45 Yeah, this one. I just dropped. And then a little while later, it dropped pretty late. Stick around, because you might have missed some of the things I'm about to circle, which lines up with him saying
Starting point is 03:07:55 this was family made in self-in. Drop it in the comments, and let's talk about it. So for anybody who's been out of the loop on the actual credits, FOMO was directed by Theo Scudra, Liam McCray, Jake Schreier, and Glenn Michael, all part of Drake's Circle, which lines up with him saying this was family made and self-funded, no outside studio getting credit. It ran just over an hour, and it finally went up around 10.30 at night after a few delays,
Starting point is 03:08:19 landing on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Music. But what we got wasn't a new album. It was a documentary-style film, or at least that's how he's branding it. Really, it's a long run of music videos stitched together with story segments woven in between, using songs off Iceman, Habib T, and Made of Honor, plus a stack of brand new, mostly untitled material. So it's not an album drop in the traditional sense, it's more of an event.
Starting point is 03:08:41 Now, let's actually get into what was in it, because this is the part you guys care about. It opens with Drake... By the way, chat, you knew that scene where Drake is showing off, like, his jewelry collection? I didn't even know that was his crib, nigga. I thought that was a store. Niggit, like, maybe we could find it here.
Starting point is 03:09:01 Let's try to find Drake FOMO. I kid you not. I thought this was the goddamn, I thought this was the store, bro. I thought this was a store. God, nigga, I thought this was a jewelry store, gang. Stop. I ain't know this was the niggins like fucking chat. Describe it today.
Starting point is 03:09:43 Honestly, the only two things that matter. 101 chrome pants. See a diamond hardware. Shoes are proud of. And the 101. It was legendary chain, the engagement piece. No thing I did. The Lord has mercy.
Starting point is 03:10:05 Nick, I thought that was a store, bro. I didn't know that was the nigger closet, bro. This is crazy, my nigga. Stop. Is that like cash? You see his fucking, man. Wait, what is this? It's cash, right? Stop.
Starting point is 03:10:37 Walking around his Toronto estate in a Charlie XC. Brat shirt before rolling straight into Cheetah print with sexy red. From there, he's on the beach with Stunna Sandy for a outside tweaken, which turns into this infomercial style tutorial on how to make a drink called Panny Dropper. Winnie Harlow and her sister show up for the new Bestie video, and then his mom, Sandy Graham, gets her own segment. A girl's night out with two of her friends that turns into a dinner with Drake, which becomes the visual for True Bestie. That's also where she shows off a brand new Ice Mom tattoo, which is a nice little detail. Kevin Durant pops up at one point too, rocking an icy OVO owl
Starting point is 03:11:12 chain and there's a moment where Drake flexes a ring he bought at a Sotheby's auction back in 2003. Tupac's actual crown ring, which reportedly went for a million dollars, and he basically dares the camera to recognize it. Shane Gillis also... Wait, wait, was it a Tupac's ring? Is that the Tupac's auction back in 2020? Is that the Tupac ring? 2023. Tupac's actual crown ring, which reportedly went for a million dollars, and he basically
Starting point is 03:11:39 dares the camera to recognize it. Shane Gillis also makes a cameo in there. In around the 2950 mark, he walks through an entire closet of jewelry, showing off a multi-million dollar engagement ring necklace, along with a rotation of expensive watches. Musically, it's stacked. There's a new Yeek collab called Miss My Dogs, built around cinematic strings, where the two of them pay tribute to day one friends that fame has pulled them away from.
Starting point is 03:12:02 There are two songs with Don Tolliver, one brand new, and the other a remix of Ella Langley's Choose in Texas, which is still a random pairing on paper. a country record getting a full Drake and Don Tulliver rework, but that's what happened. There's also a party next door collaboration in there, plus a handful of other new solo cuts. Most of them untitled, so we're going to have to wait on official releases to get real names. One of them is this woozy stripped back cut where he sings about how every time someone gets close to him, he ends up pulling away and undoing it.
Starting point is 03:12:30 Sounds like it could have fit on Made of Honor, or it's teasing where his next era is headed. Now let's talk about the two moments people are actually losing it over, because it's not the music. First is Lena the plug, who shows up as basically the girl next door who comes over to take a dip in Drake's pool. If you remember back in August during that 20 versus 1 live stream, she's the one who threw her wedding ring and handed Drake a signed hall pass from her husband, Adam 22. Okay, and this means what I think. Whatever you want. Yeah, it's yours. Thanks.
Starting point is 03:13:07 Cash it in. Whatever you want. Whatever you want. And that whole moment blew up online at the time. Adam 22 later went on TMZ and admitted it went from. further than it should have. Finally, what was going through your hand? You know, she told me a couple of things.
Starting point is 03:13:23 Like, we discussed the permission slip beforehand. So that was like not a surprise. But then when she threw the ring, I don't know. I did feel a little something for a moment there, like damn, you really had to take a dump on our relationship right there. Like, I don't know, like, we had to have a conversation about that. So her popping up in FOMO isn't just a random cameo. It's Drake deliberately pulling that whole saga back into the
Starting point is 03:13:47 the conversation months later. The bigger one though is Pinkchew, aka the goth batty who actually won that same 20 versus 1 competition back in August. She's back for a whole segment set to Princess, where the two of them walk hand in hand through a mall. Stop inside a hot topic so she can give him a full emo makeover, take a walk through a park at night, and then end up at a private medieval times performance. It's also a direct callback to their first meeting on 20 versus 1, where she told him she could get him to do anything if she looked him dead in the eyes, and he ended up barking on command. Did you bark? A moment that stuck around online ever since.
Starting point is 03:14:26 People are going frame by frame through this new segment, and reactions are split. Some think it's a genuinely fun, full circle moment. Others are calling it cringe and not what they expected from him. He also does a bit dancing and impersonating Michael Jackson on one of the tracks. And that's split opinion too. Combined, that's what's actually dominating Twitter right now, way more than any of the new songs. There's some other stuff worth mentioning quick, even though it's not the main story. There's an Iron Man suit moment, tied to footage that leaked a few weeks ago, of Drake walking
Starting point is 03:14:55 through the C&E Fairgrounds in Toronto in a full suit, with Lo Shimmy next to him in a war machine variant. Film crews everywhere. That footage ends up becoming the visual for I'm Spent here. There was also a leaked lyric from around that same time about Iron Man, Spider-Man, and Superman, not being able to save you anymore. And that connects straight into this. He throws out a number for the suit too. somewhere around $150,000.
Starting point is 03:15:19 About halfway through, he also splices in footage from about a month ago of him handing out cars and cash to women in his life, which ties back to that same, Spend the Bread While You Can Message he's been pushing in the lead-up. Then right at the very end, there's a closing, unreleased song
Starting point is 03:15:34 playing over the credits, where he's clearly taking aim at people he feels turned on him after everything that went down in 2024. He doesn't name anyone directly, but the wordplay, leaning on the idea that his circles gotten smaller, and referencing where he's from
Starting point is 03:15:48 versus where his critics are from has a lot of people reading it as a shot at Kendrick Lamar specifically. Nothing about that's been confirmed anywhere official. It's still just floating around as screen recordings and clips people are reposting. So take it as here's what everyone's arguing about rather than a locked in target.
Starting point is 03:16:05 But whoever it's aimed at, it's clearly meant to be the note the whole thing closes on and it's working. People are talking about it. And then, right as you think you've got the whole picture, it disappears. This part's actually confirmed. FOMO didn't go up until around 10.30 at night, later than originally scheduled, and not long
Starting point is 03:16:23 after it premiered, the YouTube stream got set back to private. It wasn't wiped from existence, it's just not publicly watchable anymore unless you catch reposted clips. It is now. No explanation given for the timing or the pull. Somewhere in the middle of all this, he also used the rollout to confirm he's heading back on tour in 2027, which almost got buried under everything else going on. Obviously tour is coming and there's other things on the horizon some big shows and
Starting point is 03:16:49 Hold on you just said that like that wasn't big news though you're obviously tour is coming Of course we'll be we'll be out nobody knows yet if the film comes back if the new songs get released properly or if the whole point was for it to exist for one night and then vanish That's exactly why it works if something's just sitting there forever you can watch it whenever But if it's gone either the full thing is there is out um I will say Okay, so, all right. So, yeah, there's a lot of, he teased some songs, he remixed some songs. I like the song with him and Don Tolliver.
Starting point is 03:17:28 He has a few solo songs on there I like. The Quebec song I like, he has some other shit. What's it called? I can't remember what it is, but, and I don't want to play because you don't get copyrighted. If you ask me personally, and this is where I said, everybody missed the point. I think even Drake, when you look at FOMA was taken down, not FOMA, but Quebec. You try to cut Quebec up in a new song. It was taken down by Universal.
Starting point is 03:18:06 The most important thing here for me, I'm watching Drake do business in front of our eyes. Okay? We don't know fully. And, you know, I, you know, I've talked to him. I know maybe a few things, but I do know there's a game of chess that's being played. Drake and his label. Okay. Now, not speaking to his deal specifically, but I was very skeptical about this release,
Starting point is 03:18:39 and I'm still even skeptical about the release to DSPs because there's a few things I know. Just across the board, when people say, sign contracts with UMG, when you're out of your contract, there is usually a grace period. The grace period is usually a year. Okay? Do you hear what I'm saying? So if you want to leave UMG, usually what happens is you can't release music for a year. I call it the, what's that thing is?
Starting point is 03:19:22 Frank Ocean rule. It's in everybody's contract. Trust me, Drake's the biggest. They're not going to not put it in this contract. Now, does that affect why we haven't seen any of these new songs pop up? Because supposedly Drake finishes requirements. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:19:41 However, if Drake does have new music, Drake is a very profitable artist. They won't tell Drake he can't put it out, even if they don't have a current agreement going on. Do you understand what? I'm saying. So technically, from where I used to, from where I, you know, all my experience in looking at contracts and seeing everything with these labels, Drake, I personally believe is out of his deal,
Starting point is 03:20:12 but cannot drop independently or elsewhere probably for a period of time. Now, if he does create music and want to drop, it would still drop on a universe. I've seen some people say, well, I thought he got out of his deal. Like, apparently if you click on Quebec, this is a new, this is a new song. Okay? You're going to see says the music video by Drake performing Quebec under exclusive license Republic record is the division of UMJ.
Starting point is 03:20:43 So this is a new song that's still under UMJ. Well, I personally believe that there's, Drake is in this grace period where despite if he wants to leave or despite what keep, and by the way, I'm telling you things that Kendrick took five years off, right? I'm not throwing Kendrick going to bust. What I'm trying to say is that when people are leaving their labels, there are a lot of things to be done.
Starting point is 03:21:10 Okay. Now, Drake is not going to be the artist that does that. There's a few artists that won't take two years off. Okay. Okay. Drake is a current artist. Every couple of months, he's going to come with a remix. He's going to come with a song. He might have some.
Starting point is 03:21:26 So particularly, I believe they're probably going to UMG and saying, hey, listen, we got these couple songs we want to put out. They're probably not going beforehand. And that's why I think even the song got taken down. They probably just went like within a couple of days ago. Hey, we're releasing it. they probably have zero rights to it, but they're like, okay, well, we could release it,
Starting point is 03:21:54 not vote, like obviously you're out of your contract, but we'll have it being distributed under this. Because from what I know, again, this is not nothing with Drake, this is from me dealing with the music industry. You cannot drop when you get out of your deal, you ain't fin to go drop nothing independently. or with anyone else. If you do drop something,
Starting point is 03:22:18 it's going to be with the same motherfuckers unless you wait that period of time. So if you ask me what's happening, and this is the biggest thing that people don't get, and I think Drake dropped a lot of, he dropped a lot of, like, Easter eggs in this thing, including the last song of FOMO, where it's sampled the same theme
Starting point is 03:22:38 that he's been saying all along, right? Which is, I want to be free. So for the people who are saying that Drake complete his requirements, he did. However, despite completing his requirements, and this is, again, this is opinionated, right? You know, I don't know if he wants, wants, you know, to officially speak on it. But I'll probably ask him after this, you know, to see it. But I don't know if he wants y'all in his business like that. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 03:23:11 So I'm giving you, this is me. This is not from Drake. Okay? This is from me. it's not from Drake. And I kind of don't even want to put him in that position where he's confirming some shit about his contract negotiation.
Starting point is 03:23:23 Okay? I personally believe in the next year we're going to see something. Something is happening. However, everything he's doing from Iceman to the rollout to him funding it to FOMO, he's basically adding up leverage
Starting point is 03:23:40 to say, hey, listen, you're going to have one of the top three, really the biggest, the number one streamed artists of all time, potentially walk away from a major and do what he's been doing in the last two years, which is do with his fucking self. What is the ramifications of that?
Starting point is 03:24:02 What are new artists who are thinking about getting signed going to think of that? What are other artists who are probably in that same position? And if he could prove that by showing that, oh, so you're telling me that Iceman, Habiti, and also made of honor, he self-funded. All that shit, you know, because I even said that, like, well, Drake doesn't know how much Universal is done for it. He funded the whole thing.
Starting point is 03:24:32 He put money in the street in terms of, okay, let's try to promote. They're at odds. They're on a only speak to if necessary basis. what could be more beneficial for for Universal right now is if Drake got a little piece of humble pie while releasing these joints that he could realize
Starting point is 03:25:00 you ain't bigot in the program you know what he didn't get is the humble pie ridiculous numbers he put out three projects everything is numbers are going through the fucking roof Universal's perspective they were hoping
Starting point is 03:25:20 all right well if you don't get down with the program, like let's resolve whatever we got going on in terms of our issues and you get back in a fold, you ain't going to be the biggest no more. Well, that wasn't the case. He put the work in, put the effort in,
Starting point is 03:25:37 put the money behind it, the numbers is still there. So leverage to Drake. Okay, I bet. You complete your requirements, allegedly. He's asking for a hefty sum of money. stupid amount of money.
Starting point is 03:25:59 Maybe the song B's on the table might not be a fallacy. He's asking for a hefty sum of money. Well, maybe the perspective of Universal is like, all right, well, remember it's a leverage game. Well, two years ago, they were like, well, didn't you just get flamed up by Kendrick? I don't know if you're worth the B on the table. Iceman comes out.
Starting point is 03:26:26 Well, hold on now. you funded all that you're still doing that now we get to this point universal's using their last leverage well can't really put shit out without us you gotta wait a whole year
Starting point is 03:26:44 maybe next May you can holl at us Drake's still making moments there by the way just just just understand this and you'd be a fool fuck what you see in court
Starting point is 03:27:01 if you think that Drake isn't at the negotiating table with Universal right now, you're an idiot. Fuck what that lawsuit says. And what I mean at the negotiation table, it means whatever he does, they have to respond to. Whatever they do, he's responding to. So he's playing big leverage game.
Starting point is 03:27:36 Watch me fuck up this entire ecosystem in terms of rollouts, music, streaming. again, we're watching some of the niftiest negotiation we've ever seen. I particularly, I've always predicted that Drake never becomes independent. And what does that mean? That before Drake is going to release a project and it says just straight up under exclusive, well, it probably wouldn't just say OVO, right? Like even Kendrick who Kendrick is independent.
Starting point is 03:28:18 When Kendrick releases, it says, well, I guess, I'm going to call him independent because, yeah, it's through PG-Lang, but he owns everything through, well, actually, Drake said on the same thing. They both released through their sublabel. So Drake releases through OVO, Kendrick releases through PG-Lang, but through PG-Lang, Republic. No, no, not Republic, sorry, sorry. I'm interscope picks up Kendrick shit and Republic picks up Drake shit. So I guess they're both kind of in the same place where I guess fully independent would be not going through Republic or not going through, okay, sorry. I might be confusing some people here.
Starting point is 03:29:05 Here's the thing. I don't think that Drake will be dropping music that won't say UMG. Why? I think in the next six months and that's what I've scored it. I've scored it until next year, May or June, that would be the time that Drake could do whatever the fuck he want to do. Actually, I think they figure out the lawsuit and the deal in my perspective. Drake is constantly applying belt to show them, you know you can't lose me.
Starting point is 03:29:48 They're playing the leverage to say, well, streaming is big now. if you really, if you think you could stick us up, we don't know about that. And they're playing a very interesting game. FOMO, great artistic work, great this, great that. But this is the negotiation happening as we speak. So if you ask me when this will end, I give it a year. I think that there's a clause probably in Drake's contract that says, after you've completed your requirements, unless you're,
Starting point is 03:30:26 re-sign and I think if Drake resigns, we will get a big note because the resigning will come with squashing the lawsuit or squashing the appeal. Why? I think that they'll pay Drake. Go back to bees on a table on a table. Drake's telling you what he's doing. It's bees on a table. B's on a table, right? I want to tell my Ms. I want to tell my friends. I don't want to tell my how this shit started. I want to tell by our ends. There's Bs on table, bees on table. Can't even talk to my dogs can't even talk to my bit sometimes i'm sitting in a parking garage i talk to my watch i talk to my whip okay i've been on my on my just in case shit i've been on a whole lot of names hold on here we go though spent months in a quarter just me and my back i'm used to this i'm numb to
Starting point is 03:31:15 that i know i just got to adapt hey let's wait for your spotify rap these messages you buy to send on the 16th please do not send none of that there is a need to there's no need to check where the temperature at, you know what it is if you double back, should have put another blade mop back, should have stood over and double tap, bank withdrawal need a duffel bag. What's the offer they said? Right here. What's the offer they said? What did they put on the table?
Starting point is 03:31:43 It's like almost he's talking to his manager and accountant. What does it say on the paper? Fuck that. They got to double that, triple that. Fuck is the bitch is that. Yeah, the chef two Michelin. Come to the sixth and blah blah. Kevin Hart liquor.
Starting point is 03:31:57 Okay. I'm fighting. Look, I'm fighting a man. Not suing the rapper. You boys are not listening. Okay? It's not,
Starting point is 03:32:06 there's another part. Where's the other part? Okay. All right. You're here too. Right? Okay. The contract talk is from my brain.
Starting point is 03:32:23 These numbers they talking are actually insane. Where is the part? What's the song after, B's on the table? This is a song. right after it. If you go back to Iceman, the contract talks that he has on Iceman,
Starting point is 03:33:13 what did I miss? No, it's not what I miss. National Treasure. Or maybe he's making pay. He has a lot of, like, business talk on the shit. People are overseeing that. And all I'm saying is that everything you're going to see from Drake now is literally him to go, I'm not saying it excuses the music.
Starting point is 03:33:46 Say you don't like the music. I'm not saying it excuses it, but he's negotiating with every drop. Okay? What is it? I thought it was on bees on table. It is on bees on table. It's not making pay.
Starting point is 03:34:12 I think it's on bees on table. Okay. Maybe I'm thinking about some other shit. Maybe I'm putting in some other shit that I think I know. Well, I know I know. Anyway, all right. Just remember, this song is a
Starting point is 03:35:05 it's a euphemism I'll say that this is a euphemism does it's a make him know this is there's a part he talks about ah it is this yes
Starting point is 03:35:47 take that last song take that last song and then just add this to it right here okay pressure been getting applied And I know I've been bad with replies, the lawsuit I got is fried till the R switch place with the I. They'll frame it as people retired, but we know what's the truth and a lie.
Starting point is 03:36:18 And they'll act like we're signing a deal when they pay me for, remember, stitch both songs together. You'll, you'll know exactly what's going on. It's ongoing. It's a negotiation. Okay. Just stitch. I can't give you no more, brother. Take this.
Starting point is 03:36:42 Go listen to bees on the table. Combine it. You will know exactly what's going on with him and UMG. That's all you need to know. All right? I'm going to leave it there. Look. Remember this.
Starting point is 03:37:09 Remember those four lines. All right. Enough Drake stuff. Enough Drake stuff. Enough Drake stuff. Enough Drake stuff. stuff. Okay. All right. We've done with Drake.
Starting point is 03:37:21 Let's go to, uh, setting an ass that he talked to a juror. I want to hear this. They said this is, uh, little Dirk trial juror breaks their silence. Oh, I got to hear this. Are getting a lot of people blocked. And I'm going to say, we're just going to keep it authentic. A rich ass white man talking down to a poor ass. Right.
Starting point is 03:37:50 We, we're all in this studio. and somebody says, a million, half a million. I'll take care of you for the rest of your life. And it's like, okay, where was this? Because if you can remember, it's a studio. Okay, I'm trying to find an interview. Who was there? Who can corroborate your story?
Starting point is 03:38:10 Would that have mattered if somebody came in and said, I was there and that never happened? Absolutely. Absolutely, because we're going to a thousand percent. So you mentioned that. That was the main. Okay. So they're saying this is this person.
Starting point is 03:38:22 person that Sedy Nash is talking to is a juror. I take it down for a block up because like I said, I'm probably skipping a head here about blocker of all the from from what I gathered he seemed as though he was the most believable of the three witnesses he wasn't an end just about a means kind guy he was like a like a like oh man like another guy was like very straightforward I can't believe I'm here there was no like I didn't read any any like so like I have want something from this Like he seemed pretty believable.
Starting point is 03:38:55 But then I think I believe it was a steal. Like I said, he did a good job with this with his cross-examination. Were you on the, were you, can anyone corroborate that you were on this private airfield with him? No. Can anyone corroborate that you were, that you asked for, that you met him? They even have his number, that you're anybody. No. By the way, I'm not the one speeding up the person's voice.
Starting point is 03:39:18 It seems like said he is maybe probably to keep the person's voice, not from sound. regular, which might give away their identity. The best that they had was a picture, and he has his phone in the background, and he's not even like in Dirk. It was like a concert that Dirk was doing, and Flocka, I think it was Swaka. Now, I hate to kind of like do the guessing game here, but I don't know if this sounds like one of them middle-aged white people. This might be the only black person I was on a bitch, right? Like, does this person sound black? He's in the back, and he's like, he looked like, he looked like. He looked like, he looked like,
Starting point is 03:39:53 like a fan if anything like there's no cool there's no crop if a juror is kind of looking at things like that oh you're looking like a fan it's like i would imagine not saying they have to be black but i'm saying this person seems like they kind of know what's up operation that you had any personal ties to dirt and the fact that still showed that if there was a dude if there was like uh don't know there was jason smith or out some somebody's another corroborating witness who was like yeah It was there. This happened. This conversation happened. Bang. Then that definitely, that that would have been some pretty solid. Are we changed the voice as well? Okay.
Starting point is 03:40:35 Concrete evidence there. So still made a point to bring up the fact of these venues and these spaces and places and places. And there were no pictures. But I'm curious if this was the essential nailing the coffee, still said when you last seen a little dirt, you had to buy tickets to his concert. Yeah, yeah, it was a... So at some point, I believe as a jury, we kind of realized like, all right, and we took this very serious with the judges' instructions. You could believe some of their testimony. You don't have to believe all of it.
Starting point is 03:41:10 You could believe some of it. You could throw some of it out. You could believe all of it. There's varying degrees of you can just, because he lied, throw the whole testimony out. We never, we never approached it in that fashion. We definitely gave some relevance to the witness testimonies, all of them. and we gave relevance, but it wasn't, it wasn't like a make or break, because we kind of knew there was an undercurrent of like,
Starting point is 03:41:34 I want something from this, you know? And yeah, dude, the fact that he had to buy his own tickets, yeah, you hit it right on the note. Like that was not, you're trying to establish that you're like, you have some personal relationship, but you have to buy tickets for his concert. You couldn't corroborate a lot of these details with anyone else. It's like, it didn't look good.
Starting point is 03:41:54 Now, obviously, he knew, he knew, he, he, he, he, he didn't look good. Again, he knew the details of, yeah, that was, Lindsay was the first shooter. I put my, I had the, I have the, I had the, was it the, the Glock with the, with the extended magazine. That stuff, we landed 100%, almost 100% truth, I mean, it's, is that to right. You can see it on the, on the surveillance camera, there's a GPS location data, there's Pings from the towers. I mean, that's the, his, his, what's very much indisputable. The disputable part was the several different time when he asked, when he was asking Dirk for a payment. It was just nothing there.
Starting point is 03:42:28 Or at least nothing concrete. So do you remember when he said the shit about the weed and all that? He's been to California several times for wheat. Yeah, yeah, that was actually one thing that we, I remember mostly about Didi, Wilson. Because D.D.D. He had taken several. So, D.D.
Starting point is 03:42:53 They show, we went through the exhibits where they showed he was going to, he went, he went to Cali, then he went to Lowe went to Cali, then he went to Atlanta, he went to like, I think he went to Miami. He's been on different trips, different weed trips, I guess, to what it was, like which or trips that didn't have any, I guess, sinister motive to it, you know? So it didn't seem like out of the ordinary that he would go to LA or actually San Diego or whatever. Yeah, apparently, was it like his, he, that was one thing that kind of, not a thing about it, because his girl, he texted some girl, I don't want to say the actual name, but, or the Instagram
Starting point is 03:43:27 but he was texting a girl like hey where are you guys going oh it's boys boys trips and he didn't even know that he was leaving until about two hours before the actual trip or something like art he was a very short notice kind of sort of thing um yeah uh that part was very relevant for for wilson because apparently he was out there and that was believable there was supporting evidence to kind of show that yeah he'd be able it could have potentially been a week trip and uh yeah yeah so did you believe this because i thought it was stupid to say because it's an airport airports have freaking cameras everywhere. And I thought it was dumb for them to say, yeah, it was too hot to fly into California.
Starting point is 03:44:07 I mean, they fly to LAX, so let me fly y'all to freaking San Diego. When Burbank is right there, and then you guys not only did that, you flew to the Chicago airport, which is damn near top 10 as equally as busy as freaking LAXs. Like, you know what I mean? What did y'all think about the theory of don't find a LAX? It was too hot. There was a, so this is where you're making an appeal to quote-unquote common sense, right? And we definitely thought that was suspicious.
Starting point is 03:44:44 I'm not a lie, we thought it was suspicious that if you're going to say Dirk is guilty, that's one of those things pointing in that direction. Now with there was there context around that? that maybe we didn't know as a jury, sure, but it just seemed overall the impression they got from the jury's that it did seem a little suspicious. But yeah, I mean, it is plausible that, you know, you know, San Diego is also a very busy airport, you know,
Starting point is 03:45:08 but it just, if you're going to- Yo, chat, I ain't going to lie, man, they might have, they might have got one of them OTF fans on the jury, man, W, W. W. Smirk, W. Brian Steele, W. Drew Philling, they could spot an OTF fan from a mile away. Man, what? If you go to L.A., why not just go to L.A., you know? But yeah, it was definitely, and here's another thing.
Starting point is 03:45:29 One thing that was a big hang up, and it was like two camps, the don't book no flights under, I'm probably keeping ahead, don't book no flights under our name. Like, we thought that the whole, there were several things that we thought was a little weak. So don't, several things that were weak, the passenger defense, that hardball, some people, I was very neutral, but there was some jurors who thought that's weak. And then the don't book no flights under our name, the under, no names associated with me, the wedding, the wedding sort of thing, a lot. I ain't a lot, the jury thought, yeah,
Starting point is 03:45:59 based off of the evidence that we were available to us, we thought that the wedding excuse was a little, it wasn't very solid, but yeah, we definitely try to see the evidence as in the most unbiased way possible. So the dope book, no fights wedding story was bullshit. According to some jurors, yeah. Did you believe it? So like I said, there was a camp where
Starting point is 03:46:27 OTF's chain for this goddamn juror bra. OTF chain for the juror. We need an OTF chain for the juror, bro. We started to realize that don't book no flights under no names. Number one, they still book the flights under the name, so they don't even listen to dirt. So how much authority does he actually have if they're still, if he's saying, if there's, if you're, if the implication is that
Starting point is 03:46:50 it was something sinister, like the prosecution was saying, still they did it anyways they didn't listen to him so how much and okay and this is going to go to the major thing of the jury room and this is what made the deliberation so again I'm skipping in that year but
Starting point is 03:47:05 this is what made the deliberation so intense because we were arguing in there because we had the major crux of this whole case in the jury room was the interpretation of the letter of the jury instructions of the counts of the evidence so again once a
Starting point is 03:47:22 part of us, but there was one group who was, I feel, and I think this lead, they just possibly could mean this, this and that. And I thought it was important to, number, to establish the rules of the game, which is count one of the conspiracy to stop Juan de Rondo. These elements have to be fulfilled. A conspiracy had to have existed, yes? An agreement between two people. Because we, we kind of established that a conspiracy existed. That's why we were able to kind of, with Lindsay and two of them. Wow. So they thought a conspiracy existed, just Dirk wasn't a part of it. Oh, shit. Lesser extent, D'Andre. Because I was actually, I thought the evidence was a little shakier on the, on Dandre Wilson's involvement in conspiracy.
Starting point is 03:48:04 Believe it or not. Conspiracy has to have existed. You have to have knowledge that, knowledge that, I guess, what is the word here? Because I have it in my knowledge to further the object of the conspiracy and then participate. participating in the conspiracy. So you have to do, there's like four elements. It wasn't like an or thing. It was an and thing. You need this and this and this and this. You needed the intent of further. You participated will fully joining and you had to have knowledge of the object of the conspiracy. He did all those things to become a equals conspiracy. And that was one thing that I that was my framework. Okay. I'm sorry if I'm talking about me. That's very important what that juror just said. A lot of people.
Starting point is 03:48:53 believe that Dirk beat the case when the judge gave instructions. He gave such instructions of you need to do this, this, this, this, and this to be guilty that it made it easier for him to be found not guilty. I'm not talking against Dirk, Chad. I'm just tell you a lot of people thought that, okay, what they heard in the trial, oh it sounded like maybe he could have did it but when it came time for the charges the judge had specific instructions
Starting point is 03:49:28 that made it hard for you to just be like oh okay they did it if they didn't fit like certain criteria sorry yeah of how I was going to operate throughout this whole jury situation in the same like a formula this plus this equals that so presence alone
Starting point is 03:49:49 does not equal membership association alone does not equal membership knowing of a conspiracy that it existed does not equal membership of the conspiracy and unknowingly doing something to further the conspiracy or unknowingly doing something does not equal membership of the conspiracy that was the framework and that's that's what eventually
Starting point is 03:50:13 it took three days to set the ground rules of what we were going to if you have a piece of evidence all those things that I did I wrote that on the board we had to make sure that it fulfilled this stuff and if it doesn't okay so it looks like that's how Dirk beat that case chat the judge's instructions which by the way you can't you know
Starting point is 03:50:36 the the prosecutor is kind of agreed as well because you know it's kind of a negotiated like jury instructions when they had when they looked at all the criteria they couldn't match Dirk with all the criteria, which that's why they couldn't have him in for any other conspiracy. And if you haven't been for the conspiracy, that goes closer to getting him for murder for hire.
Starting point is 03:51:04 If it doesn't fulfill it, then, you know. That's amazing. So that's because when you guys came in, Ms. Sanchez said it was unanimous. I said, oh, shit, ain't no mistrial here today. She said everything was unanimous. And to know that that's the framework and what you guys said, operated, which that's the framework where the feds and the defense wanted to go. And that was their whole entire argument. And I thought, first of, what did you think about the judge and his
Starting point is 03:51:38 overall? Because I thought he did a great job. I don't like some of his rulings, but how did you feel about the judge's instructions to all of you during this whole entire process? He was, he was great. He was clear. He was, I think the judge, I haven't mentioned the judge, but he did great job as well. You could tell he really knows his stuff. Yeah, no, he pretty much made it. So it was clear to me. But once we got in the jury room, that's the first couple days. The first day, the whole conspiracy language, the elements, it was confusing. And we were going back and forth. We were we were kind of, some people were interpreting it one way. Some people were interpreting it another way. And I'm reading it as this, this and that. And then another juror is like pointing at like, for instance, point. at conspiracy at the definition of conspiracy and I said what about it that you're just pointing at the definition of conspiracy that doesn't prove anything the
Starting point is 03:52:33 elements are what matters here oh but the not but they had knowledge of so-and-so and then I and then I had to point knowledge does not equal membership so there was a lot of like semantic stuff that we had to kind of hash out and that's why we sent that note because in my opinion some people didn't understand what they were reading if I could find me if I could say And we had to make sure that we were clear. And that's what took the deliberation of, because we, we were, that was in response to the DeAndre Wilson, by the way. Because the Lindsay stuff was pretty straightforward.
Starting point is 03:53:07 We got through that within like 10 minutes, man. We were breezing through it, like 20 minutes. We were just like, bam, bam, bam, bang, they're like, okay, maybe we should take her time and read everything here a little bit. But it was, I mean, it was, he has the ski mask on. He has the, he has the gun in his hand. He was the first to five. He was at the end and out. His GPS tracker data was there.
Starting point is 03:53:25 It was he was a member based off of the elements Of the chart that I had in my brain He he it was enough to get him on the conspiracy To stock Kwondo the stocking of Kondo and the stocking of Savi Abraulting in death All those three were now that we so when we came to Deandre Wilson I wasn't sure that he was a conspirator yet I didn't think that there was enough based off of the letter of the law I didn't think there was there yet and so that's when we were kind of we were getting hung up on the cemented and and this and that. Now, some people are saying he was a passenger.
Starting point is 03:53:58 Yo, W. juror. Listen, you could think Dirk did whatever. Look like this juror saying we went off the letter of the law and the instructions. I mean, how could he have not known? And I, you got a calendar. Whoa, give me, give me something that shows that he knew. Is there a text that he knew? Is there some sort of, uh, did you, did he have a ski mask on? Is there a receipt with his name on it? Did he intend to further? How did he intent to further it and how did he have how do we know he had knowledge of it because esther's saying oh i knew of it but i and i tried to get out of it so we applied the same logic to dionj wilson he probably knew of it and wanted to get out of it he was in universal he would
Starting point is 03:54:38 according to he was at the universal sheridan and they had to ask him to where's dby at why isn't he here go get him if i remember correctly oh wow so they're saying that they felt like dd kind of knew about it but they felt he was trying to get out of it interesting so it was more plausible that he might have been he could have potentially been a passenger a lot of jurors did not feel that way I'm glad you and that was another thing that was a turning point once they realized that that was going to be a big fight over the semantics and the lettering of the law I think we all as a jury knew that we were in for a fight for once we got to
Starting point is 03:55:14 dirt because that's how we compartmentalized if we went Lindsay DeAndre and dirt and before we even started we compartmentalized it between the conspiracy counts and the stocking counts and the murder for hire accounts. Nice. No, listen, just Evanflow however you wanted. When I concocted the questions, I never set it up that if you wanted to go this way and this way and this way, because nobody can give a deal about me. They're curious as to the old phrase to be a fly on the room, I mean, in the room, you know, that kind of thing. So like I said, my whole. entire being for this interview so that people understand how important jury duty is because
Starting point is 03:56:00 I know and you know there's there's certain things where had feelings went where logic should have went little dirt would not be found innocent so that's the thing that I kept on pressing to people is that yo if it's all about the facts little dark is it is a freaking guilty as shit. And they have to prove this. It's not even if you believe he did something, not saying you, but to the people who believe he did something.
Starting point is 03:56:32 If you believe he did something, you got to prove this shit. You can't just say he did it and a lot of people already know all his rapping and all this shit. A lot of Little Dirk, when he raps, he says he know people for a whole bunch of shit. That's what he does.
Starting point is 03:56:49 Even one time said he knew some type of bank account that can do certain shit and everything. Like that's what he, he just talks about everybody that he knows and he just knows somebody for everything. And to kind of jump around, when Morrison is closing,
Starting point is 03:57:06 and this became very, very, very big in the social media space, the Lord Dirk interview with DJ academics, where he said, must be some in the water when the he's well let me let me let me back it up here do you remember what I'm talking about well all right I don't take that man
Starting point is 03:57:34 serious the man did not do none of the man the man friends did crowned a while I got to that well people there huh do you get triggered by the pull up floor made with I mean pull of one oh yeah well did you get triggered by beat the shit out of this little ass man you talk about by the slide for vaughn comments i still i don't know if people so say they used to say but you also mentioned a song they'd be like they be seeing slide for vaughan i think they trolling me yo by the way that song is firing along for some reason i just don't see them comments no for some odd reason i don't know might be the order you be
Starting point is 03:58:30 in comments a lot they kind of chilled out a little bit i don't wonder why let me hear what the jury think We're different in the rack. We're different in the rack, man. Of course, yeah. That was like the centerpiece of their clothing. Do you realize they switched it in the beginning? That wasn't what they heard they were talking about. They made that the center thing at the end.
Starting point is 03:58:57 No, no. What do you mean? So in the beginning in their opening statement, they weren't really talking about the interview like that. Really? No. No, to be honest, that, that, I'm looking at it.
Starting point is 03:59:13 now that I've been able to kind of see what's happening after the trial. I guess there's a big hoopla made over this DJ academics podcasting. And not to say that it wasn't important, it definitely carried a varying level of importance. But it was definitely not something that we were, that was like the battleground, the lines. You know, there wasn't, we weren't really fighting over all the podcast. No, no, the podcast, if anything, was like a funny little anecdote that I guess the prosecution was making it sound like he kind of to snitch on the self on that one, but it's like, nah, this ain't got to be black.
Starting point is 03:59:47 Snitched? Yo, you got to be black or young? I'm, again, that's not the original juror's voice, but I'm watching out for the vernacular. Maybe, I know chalk it up to just kind of not really, I kind of know meme culture and, you know, like, you know what I mean? Like, I know what that whole. I know meme culture, yeah, it's not no old head. It's not an oh head. It's not an old thing entails for clicks and all that.
Starting point is 04:00:15 But it didn't really, it didn't weigh on me. It didn't feel right to like, okay. And number one, again, that they still did not fulfill the elements of, again, back to, back, it didn't fulfill the elements of what I was saying. It just comes back. You literally filters. The filter is the, the, if the conspiracy existed, the knowledge, the participation, the intends further, that's the filter.
Starting point is 04:00:38 And if the evidence went through the filter and didn't come out the other side, simple. It was a simple. And that was, we were deadlocked, man. We were dead in the day three, we were deadlocked. And I was a thousand percent sure we were going to go to miss this. I was like, this is it. Like we're just going to, we're going to be here another week because we're going to argue about what's a conspiracy, the language, the elements, whether it fulfills the up, blah, blah, blah, we're going to be here another week.
Starting point is 04:01:00 So I'm just, I, at that point, I resigned myself to thinking, yeah, this is, this is, and then, uh, we did look through that interview. We did, we did, we did, we get, that's not to say that we didn't give it. It's, it's, it's, it's time in the sun. Because as I said, we went, there were a certain point. in about lunchtime lunchtime of day three of deliberations lunchtime right once we figured out that the conspiracy exists the once we figured out the the framework yeah of what i was talking about then we started filtering everything through that through that lens and so we went through every piece of evidence we got to the dj academics because there was there was a certain camp
Starting point is 04:01:35 that was like we need to we need to find we owe it to find every to find something here and to and and that uh uh we're going to go through every piece of evidence of here, every exhibit. And we did. We went through the academics, we went to, and there was about three pieces of evidence that were really important. That was the hang up at the end. So to say that we didn't do our, like, we gave the same importance to Dirk as we did to D.D and Lindsay. We gave them all a fair shot. Like, it didn't really care. It didn't really care to us. Whether, I guess the defense tried to make it seem like, hey, the big famous guy, like, we didn't care about that. I'm just going to be, we didn't care about that. We, we, if anything, like I said, we were fighting a lot for. We were fighting a lot for. the there was some of was fighting for the for ddi uh we were basing it off the merits of the evidence and we went to every single piece of that we got to the dj academics interview and the dj academics interview we some like there was some who was like that's him saying what could that mean like okay sure what does that mean but is that intent to further where's the intent to further where's the vocal participation in there where's the uh where's the the the smoking gun of the murder the murder
Starting point is 04:02:38 for hire where's the smoking gun we need a sort of transaction and we don't like that was another part with uh because Again, we went through the $10,000 that Jam got for his being in the music video. We saw it as, because that was also important too. We gave it its weight and we thought, hmm, could that have been the smoking gun? Was that the payment for the murder for hire? Or could that just have been payment for actually, like as straightforward as is that payment for being in the music video? If it could have been just that, there was a reasonable doubt. And we, all 12 us came up with that reasonable doubt that, yeah, maybe it was just simple as payment for the music video, not payment for the murder for hire.
Starting point is 04:03:23 Well, the song as a whole, and you got to look at it through the music industry-wise. Let's say none of this shit happens. You pop up in a civil trial now, and it ends up in California. And Jeremy said, I did this song on this popular-ass album, and I didn't get paid shit. You know, and that was, that's a thing. That's really a thing where there are artists who do songs and they don't get paid. So there was no way in hell that anybody who did a song with Little Dirk on that compilation album because of Dirk's position with the label, he had to pay him for that song.
Starting point is 04:04:02 There's no ins and outs because Jeff had to sign paperwork to release propituity and all of these things. So you can't get on that album as a freaking rapper and not get paid for it because you could come back and sue for a shit ton more. And your lawyer fees are going to exceed that little raggedy-ass $10,000 that he had got for it. But how did you feel about the freaking lawyer, the prosecution saying that Jim was a terrible rapper? Dude, by the way, you're the detail. You're on point, man. I love how on point, like, you could have essentially been part of the jury at that point.
Starting point is 04:04:38 Yeah, you were, how do we feel about him being around? I mean, we were asking, like, had you ever been a rapper before? know but we knew he wanted to have a rap career afterwards okay and then he had that phone call where he's like yeah i'm gonna try i think with this girl one of these girls uh yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna make it in as i'm gonna get out and become we thought it was ridiculous we thought it was there were several things that we thought were pretty ridiculous like the angle i when steel was saying um just another murder that's what that we're like that that's okay now that that that dog in gun hunt but okay well i get what you're trying to do there
Starting point is 04:05:14 But the one part where it's like, I believe this is actually a juror. Dirk is only famous because he said it's in a phone call or something like that. Like he's only, he's only, or he's this is, I think it was witness testimony by one of his girls. Dirk is only famous because he's mentioning me in these songs. And I made him what he was and blah, blah, blah. It's like, if that's true, that's actually what happened, that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 04:05:37 That's just, that's a dumb. But that was ridiculous. So, Brian stood to bring up. No, no, that was ridiculous that if that jam thought that he was like the guy who made there if that testimony is to be believed. Did you believe the testimony? Not really because it, but again, it came from a, from Morris already kind of trashed the credibility a little bit. So it's like we're a little, the way, you know, it, you know,
Starting point is 04:06:01 and that's the, so you could absolutely have gone guilty based solely. And that's why we kind of knew why the, why these, the centerpiece of the, of the prosecution was these witnesses. if you're going to convict him on guilty it was how relevant the witness testimony was because they didn't really have based off of all the exhibits there wasn't any real smoking gun or any i mean there's things pointing circumstantial stuff but nothing like beyond a reasonable doubt so you could in theory based off of the letter of law and like i said i'm reading the sucker man you could uh based off what you could you could think that he's a conspirator or the murder for hire based off of knowledge uh what is It could be inferred from circumstantial evidence.
Starting point is 04:06:46 So witness testimony. You can't absolutely convict them as guilt through that. But it came down to like how much did we actually believe the witness testimony? And it was like, we just, we weren't there as a jury. We just weren't there. We didn't. I mentioned Flaka. I mentioned Jam.
Starting point is 04:07:07 The one who was who had the most, we knew as a jury, we knew he had the most information, the most damning evidence that could possibly happen that he could possibly tell on dirt. but he was the least credible. He was the least credible because he did this thing where he was obstructing. He was doing the whole thing. And I'm sure the viewers already know what I'm talking about. Bonnie. Right.
Starting point is 04:07:29 So you're where you know? Okay. Hold on up before we do that. Were you calling them Vani? Where you call them, C. All three, man. All three of the jury. We couldn't, I would call him because.
Starting point is 04:07:40 Oh, that's. So we all kind of knew. We kind of figured out like who would talk about. So yeah, that's why I say Finley was the most important on the defense because even though he kind of, he ran into a couple like obstacles there because I don't know something about like they didn't have the right exhibits to show. Or they had like a double or something of the exhibits or something. That was a technical difficulty with the exhibits. And so Bonnie took advantage of that by saying, where did I say this? Show me where.
Starting point is 04:08:12 And they're flipping through it. Where repeat that to me? I don't know if I said that. Repeat that to me. they had to flip through it and then Finley's like I see what you're doing. He that's what he said. I might be paraphrasing, but I think that's what he's like I see what you're doing. I see what you're doing.
Starting point is 04:08:24 Okay. Okay. And so, but that's a credit to Finley, man. He, that didn't stop him from, I think that might have actually worked in his favorite because the jury saw what cut. No offense to Jen. No offense to Flokka. We knew Grant was a smart guy and it was that double ed sword. We knew how smart he was. And we knew how capable.
Starting point is 04:08:45 he was of trying to deceive us. So we were on our guard because we know how smart he is. But it kind of worked in a fashion. Wow. So look like them not thinking that Vonny was like just some street thug and maybe like he was
Starting point is 04:09:01 a little bit more slick. They didn't use it to his advantage. They kind of used it to be like, yo, he's probably he probably at some point created the situation that he could sliver out of it. We knew what he was trying to do there. And then Finley did a good job of, because he did, at least in my, he established that,
Starting point is 04:09:23 I'm going to get 60 minutes, I'm going to get a lawyer to protect my rights, my copyright, right, or something about copyright or his rights to use in film or whatever. Oh, another one, this was a pretty big piece that even the parole guilty can was like, oh man, like that's no way to the part where he said, I, uh, they're not as up to, I'm going to paraphrase again. They're not as up to, I thought the feds would know more. They're not as on point as I thought they were. We're like, okay, okay.
Starting point is 04:09:55 So we know that you know the game. We know what you're trying to get at here. And so him saying that he's in the jet with Dirk and Dirk saying, uh, that Dirk orchestrated certain hits and this is like he, Dirk, I mean, Kvon Grant had the details, but no, but without actual weight to his testimony, how much
Starting point is 04:10:15 how much that's ironic they found Vani's testimony the least credible they thought Vani was probably trying to play games
Starting point is 04:10:24 he was being deceptive and most of that came from him talking shit about the government on the jail phone yeah I don't think they really know
Starting point is 04:10:33 what's really going on oh shit I'm about to really put a performance on that came back to bite him because the juror is like he thinks he's
Starting point is 04:10:42 smart than an average bear Maybe, you know, he thought we were going to be in this position and it makes him less trustworthy. Can you infer from that? So, since we just jumping back and forth, in the Blackshire shooting, Kavanaugh-Grant has said that he was just told what to do and he didn't. Did y'all believe the story that he said about the Blackshare shooting?
Starting point is 04:11:09 we established that the Blackshear shooting that actually that since Dirk really didn't have many fingerprints, so to speak, on that event, that the Blackshare shooting was a precedent that this kind of stuff could happen without really much of Dirk's involvement. So, hey, he orchestrated this hit in the Beverly Center and the L.A. thing.
Starting point is 04:11:35 But it didn't help that K. Bon almost seeming took it upon himself to do the blacks year thing and to and and and and that he was so close to Bonnie or I'm sorry King Vaughn and that he was he was already that he was already part of like I guess a month that that part was little confusing but I wouldn't that the something about like a cartel or a top yeah it was a part of a of an enterprise that were stealing cars and all that and he didn't roll over on them did that did that factor at anything Not a little bit, not as much.
Starting point is 04:12:12 Okay. I just thought that him trying to play coy like I don't have anything to do it anything and all this shit, I'm just this guy who just got money and all this shit. You know, that right there, I thought that might backfire on him.
Starting point is 04:12:29 But you're saying, nah, not really that the whole him holding the information about the people who used to get the cars from, The defense didn't know anything about that. Yeah, no, I don't, to be honest, I can't really remember a whole lot about, because that's not I'm saying it didn't really factor into it because we didn't really discuss it in the jury room as much. We just kind of, and again, when, and this is, and Bonnie's a good example of it, because we're just regular people and you could throw, we are going to look, we looked and we are going to look at every piece of evidence. We're not ignoring any piece of evidence, but we are equipped to handle, we are equipped to handle what the lawyers are telling us based off of, um, uh, um, um, we are equipped to handle what the lawyers are telling us based off of, uh, uh, Whatever the lawyers are in our are inferring, we're only equipped to handle it based off of like almost emotional please because we can interpret certain evidence the way a lawyer can or the way a judge can. We're basing it off of the equipment that we have to add our disposal, us regular jurors.
Starting point is 04:13:23 So it very much matters the perception. Perception is everything in my opinion. I really said that's what that's what I started to realize. like the perception of Bonnie was he was untrustworthy. The perception of Jan was he was like a Machiavellian kind of figure. Flaka was a very much almost like you're creating labels and to make you simple for your brain's processing. Flaco seemed like a pretty interesting guy to an extent. I mean, it didn't help that there's an interview, there's a recorded interview where he's kind of like his heads down.
Starting point is 04:14:00 Like how much can you guys actually take off? I'm going to be 90 by the time I get out. And the detective's like, come on. man, we have you at the scene. We got GPS data on you. We got... Oh, okay. All right.
Starting point is 04:14:11 This guy's definitely legit. We got you with a ski mask. We got you with a gun in your hand. Give us what we want to know. Paraphrasing, of course. We know it's not just you. That was not good. That didn't help Blocka's case.
Starting point is 04:14:25 So it's just... We interpreted the jury interprets things in the lens, not so much of like logic, which we had to kind of steer back towards. more of like catering to what the clothing argument would have done what Morris did and which is like a perception based sort of thing. Sorry we perceive we you could have perceived it and that's why a lot of people I noticed on the internet how can you blah blah blah blah there's so much evidence about this and that if you see and you look at it and you're not perceiving it in in
Starting point is 04:15:01 that lens and you're looking at the evidence and you're basing it off of what the letter the law is saying what the jury instructions are saying, what the elements have to be proven. The, the, the reason why he got up, he was able to get off of this was, for lack of a better turn, sorry, but the element, the prosecution wasn't able to bring enough to the table. They weren't able to prove that they had the burden of proof and they weren't able to prove it based off of the elements that counts. What did you think about the final video of, uh, little dirt headed towards the airport let's step back at out i'll kind of fill in the people who
Starting point is 04:15:47 don't know this because there's a lot of shit because they won't be able to see the evidence until it's all said and done because of that's just how the feds work so what we were led to believe is little dirt and this is how the internet had basically heard it from the feds and this obviously isn't how it played out in the corporal. The internet was this belief that Lord Dirk had tricked the feds and he got all these freaking planes and all of this shit. And now that Lord Dirk is ready to get on a plane and leave before he gets to the plane,
Starting point is 04:16:24 the fed stop him. And he's like, oh, damn, y'all caught me. But in our actuality, there was a federal agent who was follow him, one without the lightsore the whole entire time. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Because they can't see you, but go ahead. Because he, how, how is, how it's going is they're like, yeah. You pretty much summed up. I mean, there was some jurors who was saying it was like a slow speed chase. You know, it was like, all right, there's no, there was enough there
Starting point is 04:17:01 was like, okay, well, this is not as damning as it seems to be, I guess. We try, we, like, we, like we try to kind of interpret it in the way the prosecution would want us to it. It's like, does this dog hunt? But you hit it right on the dot, man. It's like, it's crazy how, like I said, you could have been on it on the jury, because that's what exactly what we were thinking. It's like the sirens weren't on. It's not like Dirk was really resisting so much, but it was a little,
Starting point is 04:17:31 it didn't look good, man. I ain't a lot. It didn't look good that he booked up, I think he booked three different flights or something like that. Three different flights and three different terminals. if I remember correctly. So that that that was definitely the pro guilty camp was definitely thinking like what what is what can we infer from this and yeah no it was but yeah you hit it right on the I mean you hit a right on the now. Here's the point I would have made if in your juror of course so here's the point I would have make is my moniker on YouTube is the
Starting point is 04:17:59 her lawyer I would have made the point of this and Christy kind of pointed this out but in my piece you could have went a little bit further. Little Dirk is a very well-known artist, especially going back and forth, knowing that he does music with Calut. You're in Florida. Callet is a very popular figure in freaking Florida. The flights that he had booked, there's zero weight that he knew that there was a warrant for him. They never said at one point in time he had a warrant for his rest during all these fights. What did end up happening was these were commercial fights.
Starting point is 04:18:40 This wasn't some freaking first-class trip where he could have went. And the feds even said out their mouth, hey, we would have grabbed him already here. We already had our people in position. If he doesn't know that there's a warrant, then so be it. But the fact of the matter is he had access to a private jet. In my mind, because she can't say this, but he had access to a private jet. he used to fly in private jet, the evidence shows that he booked commercial flights and then he eventually booked a private jet. That right there is enough to say, one, no warrant.
Starting point is 04:19:20 He didn't know. Two, he's like, oh, shit, I can just take the private jet. I'm going to take the private jet. The warrant, we did mention that as well. I almost forgot about that. We did mention the warrant that there was no warrant on his arrest as of yet. So that that kind of helped him out a little bit as to like, you know, he's not like he's, you know, he's, you know, but yeah, that whole piece of evidence right there. Again, we did, we pretty much kind of like filtered that out as to like, what could this mean other than him trying to, like, is there a plausible reason as to why he's doing this? And we found that there was, you know?
Starting point is 04:19:58 So there was no factor on the point of the feds were on him in Chicago when they took his phones. The feds were on him in Wisconsin when they took his phones. The feds were on his ass in the United Kingdom where he literally could have just went to Russia with no goddamn extradition at all. He could have just fried people. So none of that came in as a factor to deter. We didn't. We didn't talk about them in the third room.
Starting point is 04:20:24 Yeah. But we did. I think it might have been briefly mentioned that his phone was because that whole piece of evidence, you talk about the whole part about him being in custody in Miami. That whole thing wasn't really super discussed. I thought we felt there was stronger pieces along with that, I guess, but there was strong. We were most deliberated on those pieces, but yeah, we did briefly mention it because we were going through every exhibit and we got to that part of the exhibit. That, yeah, he had, he did it. He was aware already because his phones were taken. But yeah, no, we didn't really infer a whole lot on that one.
Starting point is 04:20:58 When it came down to it, it came down to three pieces that we were arguing about a lot. Don't book no blacks with no names associated with me. You want peace, take a piece of the switch. You want piece, take a piece of the switch. You and your homie Kondo can die. I think that was the same, that's the same, if I remember correctly, that was the same voice note. And take a piece, and there was a third one.
Starting point is 04:21:22 Uh, let me give me a minute, I'll kind of figure it out. But yeah, those two were the major. Oh, oh, yes, and the y'all ain't sliding, so I'm not gonna pay for your rent. Those are the three that we're kind of like, but not just, like I said, we, the reason why it doesn't really factor in that much, you were talking about the airport thing.
Starting point is 04:21:40 It's just because we just kind of like, it was a quick sort of aside. And we just didn't see that that was like, okay, maybe there could have been other reasons that's the, that's why he could have been, he could have been, as incredulous as it could have been, but this, the burden of proof, you gotta prove it, it's strong.
Starting point is 04:21:52 That's what, we didn't, we didn't feel that it was fulfilled there by the prosecution. There was those three, those three were the big ones, dude. When we went to me, every piece of exhibits, those are the three that, because eventually, we were demoed. It was like, it was like, five, four, and then two undecided.
Starting point is 04:22:10 Or it was like five, five, five, two undecided. Five guilty, five, nine guilty, two undecided. Eventually, once we went through every single piece of evidence and we filtered everything out through the letter of the law, and we slowly went from like eight, eight, eight, uh, eight four, you know, nine three, eleven to one. And that one was kind of like, everything you guys are saying is making sense.
Starting point is 04:22:34 But what about these three pieces of evidence? And we had to, to review the evidence again and we have to we flip through it just to make sure it makes sure no stone was in turn and eventually you know something she was able to process in her hand like okay well it could be other than this could be something other than what the prosecution is saying but those are the three pieces right there that yeah okay and we'll we'll jump into that I want to save that for the end and I got them written down for you don't book no flights take a piece of the switch
Starting point is 04:23:06 and then the text about paying the rent because i made a whole video we it was a mounting of stuff man because it's three defendants so it's like how are we gonna at first we're kind of like gooping off and like all right all right guys let's let's come out let's focus here right how are we going to do this compartmentalize every single so we're going to do the conspiracy and the related counts and the murder for hire kind of separate we're going to do lindsay first we're going to do wilson second we're going to be banks third we got once we got to that end of the the major hurdle was like almost immediately it was the language of and then that's when somebody was
Starting point is 04:23:49 confused on the intent the intent what did it mean by intent to kill I believe Sabier Robinson and we kind of all knew what that meant but there was one juror who was like I don't know what that mean we knew what that meant so when we when we sent that note and to clarify with the judge we were kind of like well this is kind of a waste of time we just really need to know the clarification on what counts as a conspiracy because there seems to be maybe some confusion on it. That was the major deal. Those are though, but yeah, the let, how we're going to interpret the letter of the law, that was the, that was the major hang up. Because I'm not going to lie to you, man, the murder for hire stuff, even the staunchest people who are like guilty,
Starting point is 04:24:29 they kind of realized that there wasn't really, the only thing you could pretty much go off it was the wincessony. it was that simple. There wasn't really any smoking gun there. Like I said, you could have convicted him guilty based off of the circumstantial evidence. Ah, precisely what a lot of people thought who weren't on a jury. Lack of a smoking gun, lack of payment did come into it.
Starting point is 04:24:54 He gave enough proof or enough reason without. So the murder for hire, which, you know, again, I particularly believe that the feds, realize the murder for hire was going to be too hard to prove and they came in with a vicar. It was just too late. So, you know, I kind of want to caution, and y'all can clip this.
Starting point is 04:25:19 I want to caution everybody who is acting like this next trial is a happenstance. Like, oh, it's just something to get through. He's coming home. Caution. A lot of people thought Dirk was going to get found. Every time I've seen almost general consensus, about what's going to happen, the opposite happens.
Starting point is 04:25:41 Everybody's saying, oh, this is going to be a cake walk. Yo, he's beating this one. This might be the one that gets him jammed up, and I'm not wishing bad on him. Why am I saying that? I'm kind of looking at the government's history. They came with a Vicar if you ask me, because they felt like they couldn't prove the murder for hire.
Starting point is 04:26:03 So they came with a conspiracy, but conspiracy for, you know, criminal activity. So again, I know people saying, oh, no, this is, you know, this is said and done. Be careful. Obviously, Dirk's team and his lawyers, they're not going to just be like, oh, no, we already beat this. Nah, I know they're going to take it serious. But for everybody who's thinking that this next trial is going to be like, oh, it's a cakewalk.
Starting point is 04:26:30 I caution you. I caution you. I want to use this time as well. We're taking a short break intermission and to listen to what the juror is saying. I've seen what I'm a man, uh, um, Bradford Cohen was saying. If you don't know, there has been, there has been some news that there is a bail hearing for Dirk on November 5th. Okay, November 5th, there is a upcoming bail hearing. Okay. Now, what pretty much has happened since then, we've seen Bradford Cohen, our favorite lawyer.
Starting point is 04:27:07 He has tweeted out his opinion on what. what's most likely going to happen. This is what he says, okay? So it says Little Dirk's Bond review has been officially scheduled for November 4th. By the way, if you don't know, his trial was scheduled for October 5th, which leads a lot of people to believe that that trial will most likely get pushed back because why seek bond if the trial would be ongoing? So it looks like that trial is going to get pushed back.
Starting point is 04:27:37 Obviously, everybody thinks it's going to get pushed back in the anticipation of motions to try to get this whole case dismissed or at least, you know, reduced or somehow disqualified on the grounds of potential double jeopardy. So he's going for bond is going to be November 4th, so we don't think he's going to start trial October 5th. However, Bradford Cohen says, my prediction is that he will get a bond. bond is often used as leverage to get a plea. He will get a bond and they will file motions on the new case. As I said before, the case is not going to trial in October.
Starting point is 04:28:17 Now, this is one of the rare times you're going to get me to disagree with Bradford Cohen. I think that I agree with Bradford Cohen. Of course, the case is not going to trial in October, but I disagree that Dirk will get bond. I think the, you know, the substance of what he's charged with is way too heinous for them to let him out on a bond. It still does carry life. Those are usually important things. How gruesome is the crime you're accused of? Does it carry life, which, you know, doesn't incentivize people to show up if you could probably never come back. And even if they want to use the first case as, oh, no, well, he got found guilt or innocent of this. There's other criminal activity that they are going to be talking about
Starting point is 04:29:04 that I think they're going to point to to say, no, he shouldn't get a bond. And add it on to that, and I think this is going to be the major thing. They're going to point out that Dirk's major wealth and the idea that even in the Vicar, they paint him out as someone that people would do things criminally to impress whether he ordered it or not because he was part of this gang. it would make him a risk to the community if he was out because that could threaten the witnesses and that could continue this pattern of crime. That's what the prosecutor is going to say.
Starting point is 04:29:44 Okay. So this idea that, oh, he's getting bond, I think the prosecutors are going to oppose it. I think the judge is going to take a long look at it because he was found innocent of these initial charges. but I think what he's going to also reflect on, he did not favorably look at Dirk allegedly booking three flights to leave the country right before he got locked up and, you know, him supposedly taking the cops on a slope speed chase. So I don't see his opinion changing, saying,
Starting point is 04:30:18 oh, you already beat one of these cases, so you're good to go. I still think the judge will agree with the prosecutors. And to the effect of what Bradford Cohen is saying that, oh, no, well, well, they might use, the government might not vehemently oppose bond to use as maybe some type of leverage in terms of a plea, right? Or actually, maybe this is the other way around. Maybe Dirk's team will use the bond to try to get a plea from, try to get a plea from the government in a sense of, Okay, listen, you're not going to catch him on a murder here, even on a Vicar situation. Maybe you do catch them on some type of conspiracy, but on one of the lesser conspiracy or maybe one of the lesser criminal things where it carries five to ten.
Starting point is 04:31:13 I got to imagine that Dirk's team is not going for a plea. I got to imagine that they're swinging for the fences. They beat, which a lot of people think is the hardest of the two cases already. And other than anything but time served or some other shit, why take it? I don't see the government offering that. I think the government is still swinging for the fences. They want, if you ask me, at least 15 years from Dirk Banks. And I can't see them offering, I can see them offering 10.
Starting point is 04:31:46 I can't see them going below 10. They've put a lot of time, a lot of resources. They've given a lot of other people a lot of breaks in allowing them to possibly get time reduced off their sentence, just to get Dirk. For them to give Dirk anything below 10, I think it would just be ridiculous. So I don't see them trying to offer Dirk a plea. That would be even considered.
Starting point is 04:32:09 And I still don't see them offering bail either in terms of the judge. Again, these are very crazy charges. Now, does that matter with him being able to beat it? No. It might still be a weak-ass case. By the way, I think in his current. form this case isn't that strong and I think the government if anything they're more focused on trying to beef this thing up in terms of maybe a superseded indictment or or anything of the
Starting point is 04:32:36 sort to make sure that dirt doesn't have the same result of giving them a spanking okay anyway let's go back and you could the things inferred from that evidence but we just didn't feel comfortable doing that I guess okay so whatever it is created the biggest disagreement during deliberations. Um, um, the don't book no flights and the piece of the switch. No, no,
Starting point is 04:33:16 wrong, wrong. You know what was, you know, I, I almost forgot about this. The lyrics, man, the lyrics were massive. That was like a, man,
Starting point is 04:33:25 it's a huge blind spot, sorry. Yeah, the text of the, don't book no flights and the, and the, you're not sliding, so I'm like a paper rent and then take a piece to switch. Those were important, yes. At some point, man, and this is where probably the jury room got the most heated, was how much importance we put on the lyrics.
Starting point is 04:33:44 Thank you for kind of your flow of thought now that I'm going from day one. And that I finally realizing that's what it was. The lyrics, man, the lyrics, that was massive. Because there was a, there was a divide between those of us who were like, the lyrics don't mean much and the lyrics do. And it's like, this is going to sound really pro. prosecution, but I'm just doing my job because curious minds want to know. What was the strongest evidence the government presented against Loddard? Just a single piece where you like, yeah, I could find him guilty on this.
Starting point is 04:34:29 The, I think it was like the piece of the switch, this piece of the switch audio. That was pretty bad, man. That wasn't good. That was a bad piece of evidence there. I mean, because there was since there was no real smoking gun. Oh, no, I'm sorry. That, no, like I said, I mentioned before, it was the lyrics. No, the lyrics definitely, yeah, the lyrics were important, but with that, the reason why that was important was because we were fighting over its irrelevance, not whether, but we all agreed on this piece of evidence that it wasn't, it was like, okay, we could get them, we could get to that logical conclusion based off of this. The text about panor right.
Starting point is 04:35:05 Correct. Right on the mark, man. Now, I'm gonna be fair square Irish and honest. If Lord Durkest found guilty, which I don't believe he's... We had an open mind. We weren't trying to change nobody's mind. We were pretty much like, okay, tell us how you feel about this. Why do you feel about this?
Starting point is 04:35:20 And tell us why, I will tell you why we feel a certain way about certain, about certain piece of evidence. And yeah, man, it was kind of hard. Yeah, like, in what context is, if y'all don't slide, I'm not going to pay for your rent. in what context is that good? Not many. So what was the thing? Because I have an idea, but I kind of want to save it,
Starting point is 04:35:48 because I think people know, like, my ideas on this shit. So I don't, nobody would think like, oh, I'm just piggybacking off your answer. But how did you guys get over that to say, you know what, this actually doesn't constitute,
Starting point is 04:36:01 quote unquote, murder for hire? Well, there was no, well, that piece of evidence, even if it like that doesn't fulfill the elements it feels just that simple that doesn't fulfill the elements of murder for hire where's the in that text where's the uh the payment where's the promise of the payment how do we how can we infer that that's what you meant as like like what a sliding for me could that mean i'm going to put out a distract am i going to put out a
Starting point is 04:36:28 am i going to am i going to beat them up it could mean anything else other than murder and if you could mean anything else if there's possible if there's a possible reason for that then You can't really, that's how we got to there. It was more like a logical inference as to what you could possibly mean. And it doesn't have to be proven beyond all doubts. Has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. You know, it's reasonable enough to infer that,
Starting point is 04:36:51 yeah, if you all don't start sliding for me, it was the context of that, what do you mean by slide? What could the sliding mean? And I'll pay for your rent. But that's all it really was. It wasn't like there was no promise of the payment. There was no promise of there was no procurediary. I mean, that wasn't really pecuniary value.
Starting point is 04:37:10 And there was no, there was no invoice of like, and that's where we kind of like, we were trying to find some sort of like invoice or something that, that like the FaceTime calls would have been perfect, dude, would have been perfect. But we couldn't find, apparently the FaceTime calls are not logged, which is like, I didn't understand that. I thought FaceTime calls were locked. But apparently the FaceTime calls weren't log. But if they were, then you could flip dirt at the scene.
Starting point is 04:37:35 You could put them there for the conspiracy. For the murder for hire, I mean, there's just, there's just so many elements of the murder for hire that you have to prove, and it wasn't proven based off of the text. At least that's how we interpreted it. Like, what was it? If it was a young boy in them, they would be out every single day, trying to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 04:37:54 And I ain't going to put up another dollar until y'all start sliding. But if you're looking at it, again, where is the, where is the, where is the connections to the murder for hire? It just wasn't there. That's big. Yeah. Yeah, chat. I think the government probably after doing a few mock trials in preparation,
Starting point is 04:38:17 realize this shit ain't sticking, and they came with a Vicar just too late. The judge threw it out. And I think the government finna think that this new trial is their real chance to get Dirk. except they're down 03 in the sense of Dirk already has a not guilty verdict for what they provided in the murder for higher part
Starting point is 04:38:45 at speed because there were and I I wrestled myself when I was talking about this was one of the things where I pissed off the internet when I said brad this is the hardest shit and you have you saying this makes a lot of sense And so I was thinking about how in order to frame it because nothing happened.
Starting point is 04:39:08 And that's what I had ultimately said. Nobody slid. The one person who was in the group text message, he never said, yeah, but I got what's... The judge didn't throw it out. The judge severed it. By my shorty, and I slid for VAL. He had that address and nothing happened. And that's the thing where I believe the feds,
Starting point is 04:39:32 knew they had a failed mission was when there was the rich old lamarion ship nobody slid that's that's what i said that's exactly what i said i said so bonnie did a black shear shooting without really much fingerprints from dirt not really much there from dirt like it's the same it's the same thing trying trying to connect dirt to the black share what where where where how are you going to connect it there's no there's nothing there um there's like a barrier there but but let's say that that that dirt is the mastermind and and they and they and they and they're violent criminal enterprise this and that why didn't they when there was beef between uh o t i think it was o t f that whole the black disciples gang when there was beef why didn't why didn't they
Starting point is 04:40:14 slide on the uh or or what's the word why didn't they do anything against the lamron guy they didn't so just because dirt has beef doesn't equate to them sliding just because just because there's a beef and there's a revenge motive that that might be enough point to the motive, but there was no follow-through. And if there's no follow-through, if there's no payment, if there's no, at least in my home opinion, if there's none of those things, then you can't really, it's harder to make that junk. So I want to say this, because Drew had pointed this out, Brian had pointed it out early.
Starting point is 04:40:52 Basically this, did y'all ever pay attention to how close it was that Vaughn had died? When that message was sent out? King Bond? Yeah. Which message? I'm sorry. The whole entire thing about I'm not paying the rent to y'all slide and all that shit. Did y'all ever factor in that?
Starting point is 04:41:15 But I wasn't even dead for goddamn five weeks when he said that shit. No, yeah. Yeah, no, we factored that one in. I mean, we were trying to establish, like, who, was, sorry, let me gather my thoughts on here. Time on, time off, time up. Because I'm trying to remember. My memory is a little hazy on this one, not a lot. Repeat your question one more time, if you know what? Drew Spiel was, when it came out, he said, when somebody were to, if somebody were to lose
Starting point is 04:41:52 a child, people are going to be pissed off and they don't want shit to happen to him, to whomever did it. When Brian spoke about it, he was saying, you know, Lundirk was losing his mind. It was pissed off, you know? and he did what at what point it's up you can say yeah he did want some shit to happen to him because he's still going through the stages of grief right okay so yeah thank you for i i understand the question so it wasn't based off of that text it was based off of the uh because one of the sticking points with the last juror who was guilty was what about this there was a text i was like what about this one where he's talking about uh i'm gonna go all out for vaugh
Starting point is 04:42:30 This was like the day. Nah, it's not Pluto. This is Pluto's girl. This is a princess. Pluto, way big in this. This is the mommy right here. Hey, up. Or like a day after me, I'm going to go all out for him.
Starting point is 04:42:48 He would have gone out. I think he would have gone out for me. And that's why I'm relating to the text I do or the question you were saying. I'm not sliding about the emotions were so high during that time. It could like, he's a human as well, man. Like, he's not. We as a jury have felt enough felt in a felt in a, our heart's like, okay, his, his, his, his buddy just died. It's natural for him to feel anger.
Starting point is 04:43:13 It's natural. Yo, W. Princess, come here. Yeah, no, W. Jury, by the way. Yo, this jury kind of like, really understood, like a lot of stuff that people thought was going to make Dirk look bad. Like, damn, he's saying, yo, man, I don't want to celebrate no New Year's, man. Like, my, my homie died. they ain't nobody slotted. They looked at it favorable like, yo, he's, he's grieving. Like, of course he's going to probably say shit he doesn't mean.
Starting point is 04:43:44 So W. jury, you know, you got to thank his lawyers for that. His lawyers picked a hell of a jury. They understood him. It's natural for him to even feel the revenge part. Like, we are. Yeah, yeah. So they're basically saying some of his conversation in him wishing niggies slid or
Starting point is 04:44:03 and wishing niggas died. They're saying, yeah, that's no smoking gun. That's kind of natural. He's hurt. You know? And I think, shit, W. Juryin, understanding from the perspective of somebody who loves someone, you know? We, even the most pro-guilty people understood that part,
Starting point is 04:44:22 at least like, okay, that's why it's like, yeah, he's talking in these really, like, he's talking in this really charged language, but we say. that we empathize enough to the point where like we understand why, you know, and and what it could mean in terms of like, does this mean that he was angry enough to kill somebody or was he just lashing out? And it shows in his lyrics. I mean, his lyrics were talking about this. Like, there's nothing wrong with expressing, at least from what, I'm not even, this is what the general impression from the jury. There was nothing really wrong with expressing yourself in this medium. Because. Like, like, Juan does goading him on. I think he was like it's a... You want a second, tell.
Starting point is 04:45:08 Let's make sure my dog get it. One of them did. So, yeah, wait on the get back was another text that was kind of like one of those texts that was really, we singled out. And then we realized like, oh, that's just the, that's the, that's the, that's the, I think that's the music video. One of the jurors mentioned that that's, that could mean that, I think that's just the name of the music video. Wait on the get back and wait on the get back can mean several different things, you know. But my point is with that, like, Lil Tim used the, I think he used like a decoy as well. So one of the, one of the one of the one of those group used a decoy, a deedy lookalike.
Starting point is 04:45:43 Because we saw like it, there was a still picture of like, yeah, one that had a machine gun and dirt had like, it was like a look like a dirt with blonde braids. And like he's kind of like, they showed that in the exhibit. And we're like, okay, well, well, doesn't mean he was going to shoot at or didn't mean he killed her. We were, we were smart. We were not smart. I don't want to presume that because I feel like. I'm simple sometimes, but we were, we had enough common sense to realize, like, emotions doesn't equate to action. So one of the things that I really, that have really pissed me off that the defense did not do.
Starting point is 04:46:20 One, when they talked about the lyrics about shooting up the car to stars, y'all didn't see a car with stars. I've seen the Rose Royce, but the Rose Royce didn't have any stars. I would have pointed that out. Not only that, they, and what you choose. just talked about and they should have put more emphasis on that. This was a reaction and a response. Quando Rondo was dissing the shit out of little dirt
Starting point is 04:46:43 and he didn't say anything at that point in time. That goes to what I was saying. He was dissing him and they were both going back and boy. It was like one of the jurors of likened it to the Drake versus Kenrick Lamarbee. You know, we understood that this is for clicks. And one thing that didn't make an impression on me personally was when it was it was Finley Philly who said this you're making money this
Starting point is 04:47:13 this is and this is this is we actually we we did mention this briefly about the lyrics when we're shooting down the lyrics and you think you're like talking so Finley was like you're encouraged to have charged lyrics and talk about all this stuff and who makes the money from this stuff it's the CEOs it's the I think he I think he might have said the white or the white millionaire or whoever the I don't know if he said that but maybe I heard but he he said it's the CEOs they don't have any problem with the lyrics because they're the ones getting paid off of these lyrics so if it's really that bad why aren't the CEOs say anything about it yeah I thought I thought
Starting point is 04:47:56 Philly made a great point in that in that in terms of that like if if if you have such a problem with the lyrics take it up don't always take it up with with the artists take it up with the people you got to also take it up with the people bankrolling it, the people promoting off, the people profiting from these lyrics. And that can give you some insight as to whether or not it's damning evidence. And I'm glad you brought that up. And for the people who are wondering, like, why I'm not in my head, it's because this isn't my interview. This is me interviewing somebody.
Starting point is 04:48:32 And I want to make sure that I don't interrupt because it's rude. and this person did not have to spend the time doing this. It took a lot of, it was it seven days to get this done, only because, man, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, man, I don't know, man. I don't know, man. And I'm, I'm telling you, I'm like, yo, it is important for women and men to know that your words are going to mean everything to everybody, Because we don't know what we don't know.
Starting point is 04:49:11 And not like how the fed said, we know what we don't know. But we don't know how important. My bad, y'all, I was just, you know, I had to give one. It is. Okay. It's still like an hour in this, bitch? Bonnie. Very well.
Starting point is 04:49:31 Because Mills didn't. I'm really only playing this because, like, we sat and watched the trial for, like, all this time. And for anybody who was shocked by the result, at least we get. somebody who's actually in the room while the jury was decided. So he didn't have to, uh, uh, he didn't have to look at any, any exhibits. He's like, there was one, there was one, I think it was like, one of the people he was crossing. He's like, can you show me where this is? And Mills knew exactly it was like, because he doesn't, he doesn't have technology. He's not, he doesn't have like the
Starting point is 04:49:58 exhibits and all that. He's like, he goes based off the exhibit book. It's like, okay, no problem. Look at exhibit ba and on page boom. And he was read. Uh, but even beyond that, like he's not, he's more like a narrative kind of guy. He's a storytelling kind of guy. So he doesn't need to look at exhibits. So he's not phased by Bonnie being like, where do you mean? Trying to take advantage of the technical difficulties.
Starting point is 04:50:19 So in his closing, I want to go with his closing. Yeah. Do you think if he would have filled in his closing that y'all would have found guilty of murder for hire? If he would have filled for his closing, what do you mean? So his whole thing was the fence, I'm just paraphrasing, but I, I don't know. I know, and I'll probably, I'll probably make a separate video out of this and just put up his closing argument just so people can see how effective it is.
Starting point is 04:50:48 You'll probably want to watch that yourself. His close argument was this. The fans haven't proven the payment part. I'm curious, did it land with you? No, it definitely landed. That's why, that's exactly why. Well, that's the reason. I think that's another kind of like thing I saw on the internet.
Starting point is 04:51:15 was the why didn't they get the murder for hire against the, D.D. and Lindsay. You can't get it on, look, if you can't get it on Lindsay, and Lindsay, his stuff was pretty, I don't want to say cutting dry, because, you know, we all, we gave him a lot of time as well, enough time, even though his stuff was pretty, pretty, like, damning. But you couldn't prove that he got paid. You couldn't prove a promise of payment to him. He was, yeah, that was, if you couldn't do it on Lindsay, you couldn't do it on D.V.
Starting point is 04:51:50 You can't do it on banks. The murder for hire stuff was, if anything, for the murder for hire, I felt maybe potentially that it would, they overcharged on, but they weren't going for obviously Lindsay and Wilson. They were going for banks. So it was a little bit of an overcharged on them. You weren't going to find anything on those guys. There was just no. And Mills, like you said, he keep in his opening.
Starting point is 04:52:10 There was no attempt by D.I. Prosecutors to try to prove that on Lindsay. I think they looked at it like, well, Jam thought he was getting paid. Flaka thought he was getting paid. So the only other shooter, Lindsay, he probably thought he was getting paid. And also, remember when they said, Flaka said when he got on the phone, Lindsay was on the phone or something like that. Like there's one time when somebody got on the phone and Lindsay was already there and they were talking about money. And I think that's maybe with Diti or something like that. So we actually were the jury was like, man, that was kind of quick and to the point.
Starting point is 04:52:48 Like he says throughout this whole trial, you're not going to find bank statement. You're not going to find a payment. You're not going to find an invoice. You're not going to find any of anything. And he went through his whole thing. You're not going to find those things. And keep in mind as you go through this whole trial, if you find any of that. And we didn't.
Starting point is 04:53:05 We did it. At least nothing to the point where it wasn't like you could do it. You can get there. based off of the witness testimony, which is why the prosecution placed so much importance on the witness testimony. That was their, that was their ace in the whole. If they had stronger evidence, I feel that they would have presented that. But it was the witness testimony because they knew that you can infer that people were getting paid or there was pecuniary value given to other people based off of the witness testimony, which is why falling straight to the point. Yeah, Dirt told me to do this. Dirk paid so-and-so.
Starting point is 04:53:39 Why did this happen? It was dirt. It was pretty much if you're going to make a thesis of the whole, of the whole, I mean, obviously, you're going to make a thesis of the whole, I mean, obviously, you're going to make a, If you make a thesis of the whole case, did Dirk do it? Or were there people acting on their own that did it? There was not enough evidence based off of us 12 jurors. We weren't able to come to the conclusion that Dirk did it, but we were able to kind of like that people were acting on their own. There was a lot of that kind of stuff. Okay.
Starting point is 04:54:06 You know a question I would like for this juror to answer? Because it would give us a preview of the Vicar charge. Okay. Dirk didn't pay for it or that there was no proof that Dirk paid for or did a murder for hire. But did they believe that Dirk was, in essence, involved, knew about, knew about, or involved with this happening?
Starting point is 04:54:36 Okay? That's a good question because that would give us a preview of the Vicar, which you don't have to prove murder for hire. You have to prove that Dirk is running a criminal, well, the enterprise is going to be the hardest thing to prove. But after you prove the enterprise, attributing Dirk knowing something or being aware of something, that's as much as you really need to get him convicted. No, and I'm glad you said it that way because I believe that Blackshare shooting that they involved in there,
Starting point is 04:55:11 meaning the feds, I think that actually FD case up actually more than it did to ever convict. because when Ronnie got involved, shit happened. When Dirk said y'all go outside, nothing happened. Yeah, yeah, which is eventually why we were talking about the Lamon shooting was like, Bonnie wasn't involved in that, so nothing happened. Dirk was involved in that, nothing happened. Blackshire happened. Yeah, pretty much what you said.
Starting point is 04:55:40 I mean, it was, and the defense did a real, that also left an impression where they, like I said, man, I'm, I. My brain only operates at maybe like 20% capacity. So I try to make things as simple as I can for myself, man. And the defense did a good job of this. They showed like a chart. Bonnie was present at King Vaughn's death. Bonnie was present in the Blackshire shooting.
Starting point is 04:56:04 Bonnie was present in the Beverly Center shooting. What was the common denominator of these three? Bonnie. Kay Vaughan Grant. The common denominator wasn't dirt. So that goes ahead to, I don't want to, I don't want to. the trial that the next trial is going to happen, yes? Yeah.
Starting point is 04:56:25 I don't think it's as cut it and dry as some people might think it is, just because he beat this one. You know, he really depends on the jurors, I feel like the, or the, uh. That niggas saying, yo, if they don't got me on that next case, nigga, dirt might be chefed up, man. What the, what the, again, the lawyers have to,
Starting point is 04:56:45 they got to go all out. They got to really show their narrative. They got to, they got to infer things from the, Yeah, if I had to guess about the next trial, Dirk probably will beat it on the fact that just based, like the government doesn't seem like they could effectively prove most of the major things of the crimes. You can't prove the payment in a murder for hire,
Starting point is 04:57:05 and I don't think they're going to prove a criminal enterprise. Like, they're going to, the whole trial is going to be about, yo, OTF is a music label. It's going to be like the YSelt trial. Bro, I don't care if you have, Jammy the Bull and Bonnie Brasco up there saying, oh you know, yeah, OTF is a gang
Starting point is 04:57:28 on some like gun of shit. No, Dirk is going to be like, I don't know what they were doing with OTF, but OTF was just a music label. How are you going to prove otherwise? What's the smoking gun? The evidence to show it to the jury. But, yeah, like. Yo, and keep in mind,
Starting point is 04:57:51 keep in mind there was more damning evidence in the in a thug case where where niggas was saying yo um to kind of raising the ranks niggis got to do x y and z like they were talking more about like whatever like this shit it seems like there was just an understanding dirk's team is going to be able to say yo nobody was doing this for no dirt enterprise or o'tf people were just friends Yeah, of course, everybody was sad that Vaughn got killed, but nobody was doing this for the group that banks controlled. So, you know, Dirk has a really good time. He has a really good chance of kind of like, you know, beating it.
Starting point is 04:58:34 Because, again, it's very hard for the government to prove their core point. I don't know. Maybe there's a piece of evidence that I haven't seen yet that is relevant to the by-car charge. But, of course, what I saw from this, the Los Angeles shooting, Dirk wasn't really a common denominator in all these events. So I have a lawyer that I hit up and they were so curious as this interview. And they asked me six questions. One we kind of already talked about, but it'll probably seem anonymous at this point.
Starting point is 04:59:10 And then there's one major blogger who I hit up and they wanted to ask these questions. So the first one is, what was the first thing you researched on Google, or etc. Once your First Amendment rights were restored and the case was over. Jason Smith, what was his role in it? Now a lot of the jury had had advice was about Jacob. A lot of things led to kind of like Jason Smith and there was things you could have inferred because Jason Smith was his right-hand man. Yes? I was his a his right-hand man. I was like his manager. Yeah, we were just kind of curious as to what Jason Smith well.
Starting point is 04:59:50 The obvious one was what happens to Dirk afterwards, right? What's the next thing? Because the judge, I don't know if I could say. I'm pretty sure I can say this. But the judge mentioned so as that in the jury room, after you congratulated us and he kind of commended us on our honor on the work done. He's like, well, one of the jurors asked the judge, what's going to happen to Dirk? Dirk's going to stay here and he's going to be brought up on these other charges.
Starting point is 05:00:14 And so we're like, oh, okay. So I googled that. But then I might have him like, man, we're talking about this Jason Smith guy a lot. Where is he? And we're talking about Cuando Rondo. Where is he? Why didn't he take the stand?
Starting point is 05:00:26 You would think in my head, he would, it would stand to reason that Cuando would take the stand and that would really help the prosecution's case, I think. But I don't know,
Starting point is 05:00:38 maybe there was reasons as to why he was intimidated. I have no idea. Possibly. Who knows, man? I have theories, but I don't. I don't think that the feds want.
Starting point is 05:00:52 Because if the fans bring in Cuando Rondo and they cross his ass, let's say he gives them everything that he wants. If he gets on a stand, Cuando Rondo says, yeah, I was at war with a little dirt. And, yeah, I got into a fight with King Bond. And, yeah, my friend killed him. And, yeah, I believe that a little, what are you? can't say that because you had to know but yes I was shot at in Blackshirt Georgia yes I was shot at in in freaking what's the name all right when you say
Starting point is 05:01:29 all of that and then you get to hear the lyrics now we get to hear your lyrics and we get to bring in shit that you said online and at one point in time he was antagonistic towards Lord Dark he was on our clubhouse talking shit and making fun of people who were the hell boy man what's boys talking about we're talking about no bro you know we ain't trying to play the game at me on the game no ain't nobody trying to play no game i'm trying to play call the duty yeah i don't think this was ever introduced in the trial though chat we played it though pop out probably why he did some though that's the fuck why y'all marry you're
Starting point is 05:02:20 I ain't, y'all, niggins, I get on, I'm doing out of it fed, ass shit, man. I don't have to, police. I'm how they feel, that. Okay. It was the top three. I actually about to go in order, because I had to be academics first,
Starting point is 05:02:36 then you, then, uh, travel. Wait, what? Well, the first ones to pop up was, uh, was you? We found out, no. So skip this first part of reread it, because there's a second part of it. compound. She says, what was the first thing you researched on Google or etc. once your first amendment rights are restored in the case is over?
Starting point is 05:02:57 Said Jason Smith. Then she said, and what are some of the things you found in by who? What creators? Well, the first ones to pop up was, uh, was you. But it was, but more so because you were covering the case, not because of Jason Smith or anything. Um, Trappler Ross, uh, came up many times and then DJ academics those are the top three. I actually about to go in order because I had to be academics first then you study and then traveler Ross like that number three no no no no because we looked at me and travel routes are friends and people don't know we've been
Starting point is 05:03:41 friends for years so there was always this notion that we were supposed to be um rivals so what i did was and don't tell me your age or anything like that just say yeah your name if you watch wrestling when you were younger right the w wf not wwe i could have did some lame shit and could have said traplor ross is triple h and i could have been stone cold but what i did was i just said hey trap low roster be stone cold and setting ass should be the rock i didn't want to villainize one my homie two this is his fucking opinion and i'm not i i know he sensationalizes some shit he's probably going to react that's not no i'm not sensationalizing any of this but i in my heart
Starting point is 05:04:31 heart i know your ass is sensationalizing certain things so yeah now i'm i'm glad you said that so definitely going to react to this shit and go, yeah, I'm number one. Who do you think was number one? I already knew BJ academics before this. I mean, they say this. All right. Well, I hope he heard that, you know, I need to smirk out of there. You know what I'm going to?
Starting point is 05:04:58 Yo, chat. Do we have a chat niggil on the stand? Not understand. I mean, in the jury? Yo, we might have a chat nigger in there, man. A real one. A real one, man. Yo, one in the chat if you think that the juror was probably watching during Herman James days, you know, one of them ones, right?
Starting point is 05:05:18 I already knew BJ academics before, before this. I mean, I knew him based off of the Kendrick Lamar, Drake beef. And I know he was a, he was pro and Drake. Oh, man. You got to ask him, does he fuck with Drake or Kendrick? Remember me and my friends, we kind of like, we were getting a kick out of like the whole kind of beef and all that. But, you know, he's obviously he's a well-known kind of influencer. No, he's younger.
Starting point is 05:05:44 This guy's younger. This guy's younger. 20-something, not 30. 28. I got him as 28. But the thing with trap lore, man, because I did, he, the two people who I've seen a lot of the videos now is trap lore is, trap lores and yours. Trafflor, and you said you hit it pretty, pretty well too because, yeah, I mean, Stone Cold is a 1A and Rock is a 1B.
Starting point is 05:06:09 They're not like polar opposites the way he'll like triple H would have been. So that's a, that's a good analogy. But track Lord, I guess he gets this like, this is what I've inferred is that he gets this, he gets this bad rap as being like biased. And he's, I didn't really see that. Yeah, sure. Like he has like, I guess you if you want to call like like click baity kind of like, sure, like he's cooked and he was destroyed.
Starting point is 05:06:36 And like, sure, whatever. That's part of the game. Now my opinion on trap lore is that. Traplore is a victim of knowing too much. The jury don't know that much. Traplore has made 45,000 documentaries about all this stuff. So when he sees this stuff in court, he's adding mad context to it
Starting point is 05:06:57 that it fits into his brain, paul, differently than it would fit in for a juror who never heard this stuff. So a juror never hearing this stuff is going to be like, yeah, I don't know if that's so convincing. Trap lore hearing the stuff is like, well, it kind of like matches with all of my reporting for years and all the documentaries I've made for years.
Starting point is 05:07:21 So his takeaway is a little bit skewed because he has a lot more knowledge. So he's a victim of his own knowledge. Game, that's, you got it, you're not going to, you could be, you could be, what's the word, you could be genuine and not do any of that. and no one's going to know who you are you got to i get you got to get to you got to clicks if not you're going to be irrelevant but i didn't really see a really bias
Starting point is 05:07:49 based off of what i saw from from from if anything maybe i didn't i knew i didn't see enough i don't know i have to see more but uh he seemed like his stuff was pretty pretty pretty his content was pretty on point as well um to say that nobody has bias is just disingenuous everyone has bias uh what how much they reveal it is the question to what extent Okay. So the second question she asked, what exactly was going on that made you ask what does intent mean to the judge through a note? We'll probably skip that because we already went through that one. So I'm going to skip that one. We went through that and there's certain parts of that I don't want to disclose. So we'll skip that one. We'll skip that one. Decide to answer to not. One thing you learned afterwards through research that you wish you knew before any reason or would have been. helpful for you to know.
Starting point is 05:08:50 Can't really say that there was anything that I would want, I would have wanted to know. I mean, because if I had wanted to know anything that would have maybe bought it to my opinion, I would want to know zero so that I'm going in with nothing like a blank slate, you know what I mean? Maybe like how big the trial was going to be. Because like there was people trying to figure out like who we were as a jury. Like, well, I'm going to the lunchroom, I'm going to, I'm going on, I'm going outside leaving for the day. There's people who are kind of like,
Starting point is 05:09:20 you could kind of see their filming. And I wish I knew the gravity of the trial, not any really, not any details really of it. If I had known the gravity of the trial, then I probably, I probably wouldn't have had so many inhibitions about actually joining the jury about doing the trial. But like I said, at first I was like,
Starting point is 05:09:38 I don't want to do this, this is just, this is an interruption into my life, which, you know. What did you think, what did you really think about the people outside outside the courthouse with shirts and signs. Did you find it odd, intimidating, funny? Did you understand their fans or how was this perceived? I thought it was funny.
Starting point is 05:10:00 I didn't really, I didn't read into it like, oh, this is, this is like a bad look or anything. I just thought it was kind of humorous, like, okay, well, he's got, he's, he's, whoever this is has fans and whoever this is has enough fans to where it's creating a ruckets outside of the courtroom. And to me, I didn't really, it was more like an annoyance not they wasn't really like a thing that affected anything in at least bro if you knew
Starting point is 05:10:25 about me because of kensrick and drake you definitely knew about little derr stop it gang you know about little dirt gang so i can only speak for myself i don't know how other people felt you know the noise because i'm like gonna get this crowd of people and then they might get up a camera in my you know it's it's annoying annoying kind of things as i'm like all right and i got to go to my car who knows if somebody trying to figure out who i am i don't want it to be like a lindsay classy sort of thing. Wait, is he trying to say he didn't know who Dirk was, but he know who I was? Your OTF chain in the mail, bro.
Starting point is 05:11:09 Chill out, bro. Someone's someone gets singled out and that. It was funny. It was humorous. It wasn't anything like, but to be fair, I didn't see everything because I saw on the internet there was a couple of like skirmishes, there was a couple arguments, there was a couple, there was like, now it comes to my, now I'm putting one in one together that trapped where Ross was the one who was getting yelled at outside of the courtroom.
Starting point is 05:11:34 So it's like stuff like that, you know, which I thought it's kind of interesting. It was like, I don't know why you would yell at somebody outside of a federal courtroom, but that's nearly here. That eventually subsided because he started doing his stuff in another place because it, he rose it at the moment, but then eventually like two, three days continuously, you can't like this shit at all. So, uh, do you think more jurors will speak out? Possibly, potentially. Um, I know there was, there was a few who were, because not everybody spoke with the, with the lawyers afterwards. So maybe, I mean, uh,
Starting point is 05:12:17 potentially. I, I couldn't really answer that one. Maybe. I hope so that I'm not the only one. So any jurors just reach out to be met at SETI dash and I guess you. I guess you. I guess. I got you. This is from Remo and no jumper and he got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. All right, he just got 10 questions for you. He said, what was the hardest part about being a part of the little dirt trial? The hardest part. I'm not a lie. It was the tediousness of it all. There was like some parts were like pretty tedious. Like we've seen the surveillance camp. I'm not saying this because I'm just saying this was a, as a feel as a whole as a jury we in order to do our job correctly you have to be attentive and awake and you got you know you got to be taking notes but it's hard sometimes like again we're human we're not robots and we're humans that aren't equipped always to interpret the law in the way that
Starting point is 05:13:21 you know some people would want you to but it gets tedious you know we've seen the same surveillance camera but we get it we get what you're there needs to be a foundation in order to you have to lay a foundation because you're trying to prove something but in that process it gets you see the surveillance footage again and again and you look at the end just like we really see this or oh no okay it's the same information presented in a different perspective and it's like oh man like any more of this man it's like we we we kind of we but like again i understood why it was necessary but it was that part the tediousness of it all outside from that it was entertaining it was fun i i went into it thinking man this is gonna
Starting point is 05:13:59 suck. I went out of thinking, man, this was actually, that was fun. So, it's going to sound horrible to add it to it there. Do you think that seeing because of Savia, Savi Robinson's death so many times, that it became like, I don't want to say less impactful, like, just became like kind of a norm a little bit? Like it just normalized death? Yeah. So yeah, that is kind of a terrible. I mean, it is, don't mean, again, don't need to make light of it because there are real victims in this. But no, it definitely, we understood that somebody was murdered here, which is why we took the whole process so serious, which is why we took as long as we did to get through every exhibit.
Starting point is 05:14:53 You got what I'm saying? Like, we owed it to the families. We owed it to those victims to really look, to not just go through it. in like three hours and really and obviously the outcome wasn't but you know D-D-D-D-D-D got he was convicted, Lindsay was convicted it's not like there was nobody who didn't pay for the crime but I felt that it we owed it to the victim to really do our due diligence and go through every piece of exhibit which says I think was what we did but yeah the circus around it I guess was I guess fun but the
Starting point is 05:15:27 actual gravity of it was obviously somebody was murdered here so it was not We saw people getting shot. We saw a body with bullet holes in it. We saw the coroner talk about essentially the gruesomeness of like how he died. It was a bullet in his lung. He couldn't breathe. You know, and he was shielding his face. That's why there's several bullet holes through his, through his forum. Like it was a thing where, yeah, that part was not fun. If I could be frank, but yeah. Because you could hear him like curdling in his own blood. It was, it was, and I'm like, damn, bro, this sounds crazy. But I also think, like, if you see death so much of the same shit, do you become numb? Does the effect? Because the effect is for you to find people guilty, for you to take this serious as hell, and to bring justice to this person who deserve to still be here.
Starting point is 05:16:28 There was a lot of us who actually were not sent. I mean, there were a few who were kind of desensitized to kind of that kind of said, but there was, you know, you could see in the jury room once we went back into the, to the, once we took a break, there was people like rattled, like over this, like, you know, like, oh man, we just saw this gentleman get, get into indiscriminate and we shot at, you could hear him kind of like, yeah, like you said, you could hear him kind of like, yeah, like you said, you could hear him. and then you can see one part that did not sit well with the jury actually was the part where they were dirt made light of it the quando rondo challenge and and all that stuff like that did not that was if we're talking about the whole narrative and the perception that that painted dirt in a very negative light because it's like and i mean yeah you're just you're essentially thinking fun of somebody who who got shot at and it doesn't matter who it was. It doesn't matter if it was an innocent bystander. You're just laughing at the fact that you guys and then the reaction that saw that uh, uh, Cuando, you know, he's like, no, like, no, I can't, like that was, that was actually pretty hard to watch. The, the prosecution did a good job in the closing in the closing argument, really making an appeal to common sense, so to speak. Like, how can you not know that that, that he hadn't known that this, you know, like we as a jury felt it is possible. that dirt knew about this okay and in fact it maybe was probable that he knew about this yes
Starting point is 05:18:16 if we're being real but we put that to the side and again we interpreted through the lens of does this fulfill the elements of a conspiracy and is there a smoking gun for the murder for hire regardless of what we probably felt or what we felt could have been we we all had context We could, I mean, we're not, we know we can make inferences of what's happening. And a lot of the jury was like, we don't think that Dirk was, we don't think he's not there to freak. He doesn't associate with these people because they're upset, because he's like a boy, they're all Boy Scouts. You got what I'm saying? We had a feeling that may be something, but it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
Starting point is 05:18:57 It goes back to can you prove it? And it was not. whether you felt a certain way about the evidence or about the witnesses or about the defendants, we put all our bias to the side. We put all whatever prejudice, uh, to the side. And we were able to come to the conclusion that there was not enough evidence and that we had enough reasonable doubt. And that's a strong, I mean, it's strong and that that that's why I guess the prosecution goes up twice to really hammer home whatever it is that they got they you know and if some people are mad i don't know if i can say this but if some people are mad at you know that they couldn't get him guilty that they couldn't prove that he was
Starting point is 05:19:44 guilty i think you used to be more upset at why didn't the prosecution bring more evidence bring more compelling evidence if there was more compelling evidence then we would have had beyond a reasonable doubt or if there was none and that would be the reason why so this one got a lot of people talking. I'll let you know my stance on it afterwards, but this was pretty interesting. Did Kanye coming into the courthouse cause a distraction for you guys? Yes. Yeah. Now, how much of a distraction? Yeah, we were like, it's, it was almost in the same vein as like the people outside the courtroom, like, okay, this is like a little bit of a, clearly like an amusing circus sort of environment. Like, we get it. It's, it's Hollywood.
Starting point is 05:20:35 and we get it like we know the territory. We were like, hey man, that's kind. Even the judge was like, yes, yes. He went into the room in the back and he's like, oh, we know that was Kanye. And then one of the jurors is like, can we talk about, can we talk about Kanye to the friends like, no, you can't talk about Kanye. You could not talk about anything about this about it.
Starting point is 05:20:57 And they're like, okay, okay, but it was like in jest. Like it's a lot of these things like we, you know, like the comment about it isn't just, you know, It's more like to fill in the monotonous because jury duty can be monotonous, you know, so you find certain things to kind of keep you, I guess, you know, not to get you through the tedious parts of it. But yeah, Kanye walking in, we walked in, he walked in and I immediately recognized. I'm like, oh, that's Kanye. And it's like, even with the shades and the boots and the all blackout, I'm like, yeah, that's kind. Okay, cool. I'm not going to stop my, I think it was the middle of Jam's testimony. Like, this is important stuff. I'm not. but okay cool Kanye's there let's you know um but yes it was when you define distraction wasn't a distraction as it like did it affect how we were like how we perceived anything not really it was just more like that's a cool little anecdote when they're connie like after the
Starting point is 05:21:49 after the jury services done we could talk about it say like hey we saw connie but again we placed it as like okay everyone in this courtroom is equal right everyone here's there's nobody who that we well we definitely didn't want was like oh okay so this dirt fella knows important people let's let's let's let's have that bias or no that would have been a big no and we definitely in the jury and we're not trying to do none of that okay um how long did it take you specifically to make your mind up on the verdict it's a good question it's a hell of a question that's a that's a that's a complex question to ask because there's 15 counts and three different defendants. It's not like I it's not like one count one defendant. I made up my mind on this one
Starting point is 05:22:39 count. It was a it was a it was a roller coaster you know, it was a lot. It was a winding road to get to there. If I if I if I, if I, the best way I can answer that with the Lynn, David Lindsay stuff, the conspiracy elements that was down and about. I made of my mind about that. And not just me. It was pretty much mostly jury. I feel it came to the same thing. It was in about 30 minutes. 30 minutes. And then when we got to the Lindsay part, I didn't make up my mind for the whole day. You mean the Diti part?
Starting point is 05:23:12 What did I say? So the Lindsay part. Yeah, Dedy. Dedy part, because the murder for hire, we weren't even thinking about that. We were so trying to get to the conspiracy elements and the stocking and the sobriy and Kondo. I didn't make up my mind at all in the effort
Starting point is 05:23:25 because I thought there was reason to doubt. There was enough. There wasn't enough. There's a lot of circumstantial stuff, but not enough, like direct kind of like, you know. So it took me a while. Like I wouldn't have been to make my decision like that unless it was like, unless I was sure. And with Diti, I was unsure. So that took the whole day, which is why at the end of the second day, we had to figure out what was the language of this conspiracy stuff so that we could have it more clear to the jurors. So that took a lot. And in dirt, that was another battle that I wasn't sure. That was moments in time where I, I was not guilty.
Starting point is 05:24:01 Well, and then I'm like, man, maybe he is guilty. Maybe, maybe I should, you know, but it's like, does this fulfill the elements of what, you know, I did, I did go through that several times. Which is if I'm feeling this way, I'm imagining the other jurors are feeling this way. It's gonna be a hung jury, it's gonna be a mistrial or something. Like, I wasn't sure that we were gonna get out of there
Starting point is 05:24:25 anytime soon. So it, yeah, to answer that question, took a very long time. No, that's a great answer. Because what it does is how important it is that each piece of evidence is weighed in the exact definition of law and application of it all, because that was a thing that even I was hung up on because, God, I got, I don't know, I'm like, you're a flip-flapper. You've been saying that was innocent the whole time, but I'm going to be. like, bro, this last Morris closing was what was fire. Here's a deal.
Starting point is 05:25:09 Every single, every single, and this is where I give credit to all the lawyers, every single witness or every, every single court, cooperating witness, they had their, it was like that they had them in the first half and then in the end in the second half. They, you know, the, the prosecution, they were, sorry, I'm trying to get my thoughts yet. The cooperated witnesses in the first part when the prosecution was examining them, they were incredible. And every time, I can't think of a single time where, like, the defending, the defense didn't do a good job crossing. They pretty much made their, what they needed to get through to the jury, I felt was they were able to accomplish that. Same with the prosecution. There's not a single one where it's like, okay, because like, like the defense, the defense witnesses, the, the prosecution was able to.
Starting point is 05:26:00 really counter, well, the point I'm trying to make is that the defense and the prosecution were able to hammer home their counter arguments every time. I can't think of a single time with any other witnesses in which they didn't accomplish that. They all did a great job. Maybe not, maybe, maybe Harball, but it was more like a technicality thing where he's like, all right, it was like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to get what I want. So I'm just going to, the technology is not working. So I'm just going to, I have no other questions, you know, that kind of thing. Okay, so there are, there's one freaking, and I have to ask, and I don't know why I didn't ask you this sooner. The damn engineer. Morris made the comment of, hey, he basically was our witness. I said this, and let me know if you agree with it. Did you guys say because he was so honest that he was honest on the plane and in the home? Did that come into anything?
Starting point is 05:27:01 Yeah, absolutely. we all, we blessed a little heart. I mean, we all, the jury has a, there are certain things that I could, I couldn't, I don't like to, I try to qualify my statements and I don't want to infer too much of what the other jurors were thinking, but we all, I got the impression as well that we're like, oh, man, this poor guys, he's in way over his head, like,
Starting point is 05:27:18 he's a defense witness. I'm sure he's trying to do a good job for the witness, I think, for the defendants, I should say, and he's just getting chewed up, man, and his default setting was go to be honest. Don't, I don't want to get in trouble by, by perjuring myself, so I'm just going to be honest, I'm going to be honest, I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 05:27:33 And it's like he was honest to, there's no, sorry, there's no such thing as being honest to a fault. You could be honest to a fault depending on your perspective. And from his perspective, he was honest to a fault. So that was a good thing. It was a good thing that he was just straight up honest. I said that. I had a whole debate with Trapler Ross about these shit.
Starting point is 05:27:54 And I said, bro, if I'm a juror, and he said that, bro, no, that shit didn't happen on the plane, didn't happen. the card and happened in the house and then he still being honest about the lyrics, I believe everything he had been said. He was, he took the award for most honest, the witness, that's for sure. Okay, so what about the, the guy with the suit on and the dreads and all that? What about his testimony? The, the barber?
Starting point is 05:28:23 No, it wasn't, it was a businessman. Oh, oh, the mayor, or the mayor, those mayor's son. No, no, no. There was a guy who was my color and he had dress. He had the blue suit on. He was very sharp. Was he a defendant witness? Was he a prosecuting witness? He was a defense witness? He had said the thing about Vani and St. Louis about Vani said, I'm going to do whatever it is that I can to kill. That's the barber, barbers, slash account. Okay. Yeah, I thought it was a weird combination. But yeah, he was a, I think I'm getting that right. Barber slash account. But anyway, yes. I don't know what you talk about. Yeah. What's your question?
Starting point is 05:29:05 What, um, what did you think about his testimony? It didn't really affect our, we didn't really affect our, uh, mindset going into the deliberation. It was more like a side note kind of thing. Nothing, nothing major that we were able to gather from that, at least from my interpretation. There are certainly witnesses where we're more relevant than others, like, I'll all those people are early early on like obviously like you got the expert witnesses right you got like the DA guy the gunsmith you got the paramedic you got the 911 corresponding lady you had the first I don't know if he was a detective or that he was that he worked he worked with the police he looked like a Latino he had his name he was the one that had had took the pictures of Dirk's car or are you talking about the LAPD one he had like sticks like his hair was like back he looked like like like like he looked like like like he looked like like he was like he looked like like he was like he looked like like like he was. you know he was one of the first like FBI agents or I think he was an agent I forgot but why is he okay so I remember Steele was was cross-examining him and Steele
Starting point is 05:30:14 said because one issue that we kind of looked through as well as the jury we knew that the kind of the the feds were kind of like leading the leading the co-operating witnesses a little bit we I mean we saw it and we took that into again I'm gonna qualify this as the judge said we don't have to take take all we could we could we could listen to some of the testimony we could give weight to some we can give way to none we we did that it's not like we threw everything so all that's all that to say uh do not don't book no flights under his name still was like what is this text me i don't know what is that what does that text mean i don't know
Starting point is 05:30:54 what does that text me i don't know what does this text me what's the context of this i don't know what is that one oh that's the don't book no flags under his name therefore that means this I was like, okay, steal, what is this one? This is like the text afterwards. What does that mean? I don't know. And I think he's like, I don't know. He didn't say I wrested my case, but he could have rested his case right there.
Starting point is 05:31:13 I got the gist of what he was trying to say. So you're making inferences based off of what you want to, but you don't have any knowledge to you as a. My bad, chat. That went into the overall defense of Dirk, which was that he felt like, you know, the government put their own spin because they wanted to make a case. They looked at everything with a biased lens,
Starting point is 05:31:41 which investigators and also prosecutors aren't supposed to do. It's like that at any knowledge of what. And that goes to another thing. It didn't help that the, there's a lot of things that didn't help the prosecution, not having the recordings. And I've got to be equal here. Like certain things that the defense said, it was a, it was a, you're selling something here that, you know, the prosecution are the same.
Starting point is 05:32:05 You're telling me you don't have any, you can't record everything. Still even brought up a good point. What's the reason that cops nowadays have body cameras? You tell me, I think he was telling the same witness too. Why don't you have body cameras? Why are their body cameras? Why? So that you can't make stuff up. You can't, everything is there for you to see.
Starting point is 05:32:24 There's no, there's no bias. This is the fact of what happened and then you make your inferences. So yeah, that big side, that it's a whole side thing. But yeah, that's, you know, now. Go ahead. No, everybody is curious. curious to hear what you're saying because we, when I go back and forth with certain people on this stuff, they ask me questions. Obviously, I'm not in the jury room. I don't know you
Starting point is 05:32:51 from a can of pain or anything, but as a person who looks at it from a standpoint of how can I perceive this if I had neutrality, these things matter because we're, we're from California. We know that the police did some crazy-ass bullshit to minority communities. And so for y'all to minimize the shit, it doesn't look good for the prosecution. And it's obvious. And I think it really worked out. It's obvious some of those goddamn ages were lying. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if they were lying, but there was definitely in the same vein of what you're trying to say.
Starting point is 05:33:32 We weren't trying to, like, whatever the fence, whatever their reputation is, we tried to check our stuff at the door. We really did. And we give everybody a fair shake. And I feel that we really did that. But you could see that there was a, there was an agenda there. And that's a credit to the defense because they were able to inspire enough and infer enough from what they're trying to get at here. That there's an agenda here. You're trying to get this big fish.
Starting point is 05:34:01 And so you're, you're doing something to try to, again, I go back to the flaka thing. Give us something, big dog. We got, we got you at the scene. We got you with all this. we got the debt to rights, give us what we want to hear. I'm paraphrasing with. And so it's like, yeah, we given what we know about that, we even then we tried to like, all right, so the feds have an agenda. So what? Do they have a point? Maybe. But it wasn't enough, like, given all the things that we knew of what the defense was trying to do and the prosecution was trying to do, we still, even then, we try to give each side the benefit of the doubt. We really did. very known to the offense and they would have said yes, that would have screwed them over. But the thing that she was able to present to everybody is, you guys had just randomly hit up a little dark and act like you didn't know them.
Starting point is 05:34:52 You personally had checked up on them nine days prior. So y'all been watching them for two weeks. Yes, yes, yeah. We did briefly mention that as well. Again, that whole little side part, we didn't really, that's probably why doesn't really register as much to me because we didn't really discuss it that much. But yeah, I mean, I do remember going to the break. Just the overall, like, again, we're not equipped to, we're not like computers,
Starting point is 05:35:16 or we're going to know every single detail of the transcript or every single day. Like that's another thing. I wish we had the freaking transcripts. I guess we didn't get the transcripts. That would have been like, we would have been there for another two weeks, man. Because we would have gone through every single line. The way we were, with our process, we would have been there another two weeks. We saw the transcripts.
Starting point is 05:35:34 Because that's what the judge said, the judge said if they hear, they can't hear, one part they have to have a whole entire day and he didn't want you guys to have the damn uh the transcripts man is that yeah look i like i'll say that that would have been a mistrial i i think probably that's about christie um she did say something um great man so she just got she didn't really have much time up there she said could this have been man it's probably not even relevant to it is but She says, I'm like, could this have been other than what you're saying? And the witness was like, yes. And she's like, okay, rest my case.
Starting point is 05:36:13 I forgot what it was. And it was, it's just, it's, yeah, forgive me if my, if I don't have the photographic memory on that one, that one, slipping my mind a little bit there. It's fine. I'm, I'm a Christy fan, so, it's, I don't want to say too much because they'll, they, what they'll, what some people will do is they'll go, well, you know, Nash, you're being biased as hell. So now, man, you can't say this about Christy O'Connor because you're biased is shit. And we know that you're biased.
Starting point is 05:36:43 And I can say I like effective counsel. I love the way that that woman writes. I think her penmanship is immaculate. Like, I literally know the way that she writes. I know the way that she does her motions. She's sharp as shit. So to me personally, and I know, I'm not. people like you keep saying I know I just know my audience and I know that they're going to kick my ass about this shit but I really want to her to close she I would have had uh if I'm sure if I'm the defense I would have had the utmost confidence in her ability the time that she was up there on the stand I'm just keep a little bit more women often it was like seven women and five men yeah that's what I heard so yeah I don't know because I made I made damn sure
Starting point is 05:37:36 I'm just going to be, I made damn sure not to ever, because I've seen it happen to a person that I know, he's in jail right now. So I made sure to never, ever look at the damn jurors and go, oh, well, it's this many people, it's this many people. I let everybody else do it because, like you said, and y'all all notice, the fares don't like me. So I was not going to give the feds any mother-effing reason
Starting point is 05:38:04 to sit up here and say, nah, his ass, nah, he's already kind of doing something for, to intimidate witnesses or all this other bullshit that I know that they would do. So I made sure personally that I did not put out who it was and all that shit as far as whatever to help. I do know that it was more women than it was men, but to go in and say, you know, the ethnicities and all that shit, I ain't doing it because I know what the feds want to do the most more than anybody.
Starting point is 05:38:36 Well, towards me. No, that's fair. I've always been, I'm probably going to research this out. I wonder what the, what the relationship is like between the feds and the people who do reporting and the people who do the influencer kind of thing. Like it's like, I wonder what they're, because they're not oblivion. I mean, there's a guy there who I, there's a guy there who literally his job is to go to social media post and Google. And all these like Google. I think the defense on like Google, uh, with extra steps or something.
Starting point is 05:39:03 I forgot what it was. But yeah, it was interesting. Yeah, the open source guy. So I want to ask this because academics, I know he definitely wants to do this because there are a lot of people who are kicking his ass about the little dirt trial as far as to his part on it. He was willing to come through and testify, and he was very pissed off at Morris because of the fullness of the interview.
Starting point is 05:39:32 So we had a moment where the prosecution asked the open source guy, hey, did you watch the whole entire thing? How long was the, how long was the interview? Did that take any weight into that at all? Yeah, absolutely. We're able to read into, we could read the fine line, so to speak. You know, you got what I'm saying? Like, I think, so like, for instance, when the, when they, the defense is saying,
Starting point is 05:40:02 Hey, Jam, your whole thing, your fifth meeting with, I'm just very afraid of it. Your fifth meeting with the, with the, uh, the agents was five hours long. Like, you know, like there's obviously context in there. There's a lot of stuff that could happen in five hours. Why did you change your story from the first hour and then to the, to the third hour or whatever? You know, what was up what happened in between there? So based off of that, what's the context here? What is the, what is the prosecution trying to show us here?
Starting point is 05:40:26 They're trying to show us that based off of this, uh, based off of this podcast. Same with the six nine. The six nine stuff, like, we saw that for a little bit. Kidnap by my own crew. It was no loyalty there, right? Wack, you give me the nigger, right? That a nigger could do you wrong, right? And this is a street niggas stupid mentality.
Starting point is 05:40:47 A nika do you wrong and you be like, you know what? That's still my homie. This is how the streets go. Let me tell you what ain't gangster. That's not gangster. Hold on. Let me tell you what ain't gangster. This is why I look in your eyes and tell you, stop trying to portray something you not.
Starting point is 05:41:00 The fact that you knew, and I can call my wife over here right now 30 years I've been with this woman she know the fact that you knew the exact motherfucker who kidnapped you and robbed you and you waiting on another motherfucker to handle it and you didn't go handle it yourself you know why you didn't handle it yourself because because you didn't come up with them grassroots or knowing how to handle it and handling that type of shit see at this age right here I didn't did it all from the top to the bottom from the elementary shit to the serious shit so I can convert right now with this second back to a foot soldier because that's where I come from right and I spend many years down
Starting point is 05:41:41 there right so what I'm telling you is the fact that you knew exactly who the fuck did what they did to you and you didn't go handle it is the reason why I tell you you're a civilian and I was associating with some and that's the real shit you ever said this interview watch this Remember what you just said. I love how you got pick and choose politics, right? Yo, six, nine. You know who kidnapped you. Why didn't you go do something, right?
Starting point is 05:42:09 Right. Right. All eyes is on me. I already got Chinniks on payroll, right? All eyes on me. I'm the funds, right? I'm the head of the fucking machine. They take out the head.
Starting point is 05:42:21 This whole operation goes out, right? Why don't protect the fucking football and don't let it fumble, right? Why the fuck would I go out there? You're right. If I was covered. the same cloth you come from that you say you cut from I would have went to did it myself right but the same way you call me out they know the exact same I'm not
Starting point is 05:42:39 bringing this off topic let me just get this on my chest they know the exact nigga I put a fucking 10 bullets in King Bonn and he died there by himself why nobody slit for that nigga I don't see you on Instagram saying yo words I got what I said don't you don't know I don't know I'm gonna be real Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 05:43:05 Let me be real with you. Let me be real with you. I just discovered King Vine. Listen, I discovered King Vine. No, no. No, no. So I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 05:43:19 It would have been helpful to see more context, but, I mean, yeah, it was, it was definitely something that we were deliberating on in the jury room. room the small little I think it was like what like a minute or something that we saw we played that several we replayed it several times because some of the jurors it was a kind of a humorous little clip but uh but that was kind of like that extent like okay what are we what is the information that we could glean from this podcast interview okay he's trying to the prosecution's implying that he's like almost
Starting point is 05:43:52 snitching on himself so to speak uh which no it's this it's this there's the reason why we didn't place that much, and I've said this, I'm not like a broken record, but it was because it didn't fulfill the elements of what we're trying to do. What did it intents or further? Was there a willful participation? Does this mean that he had knowledge of it? And if there was a reason that you didn't think that he had knowledge of the conspiracy, and even if he didn't have knowledge of the conspiracy, were in that podcast as a show that he had these other elements. And it wasn't, it didn't fulfill it.
Starting point is 05:44:26 I know for a fact, I know for a fact, that he's going to love this shit. That academics can love his shit. Because with the rap industry, the rap world, what they're trying to say about this, and I mean, academics, too, that's my guy. But if you would have just came about to say it, nah, man, that podcast, we damn it gave a little dirt-ass life.
Starting point is 05:44:49 I wouldn't cut that part out. So the whole industry, there are a very well-known figure said, hey, these rappers going on a podcast and saying all this shit, is going to get a little dirt life. You can definitively say there's no way in this world that little dark ass is going to get life because of this podcast. It sounds, maybe beyond the scope of my, of my instructions of the juror, but I don't know.
Starting point is 05:45:16 Again, I'm going to try to be candid here. It didn't rest well with me to put, to convict him based off of lyrics and based off a podcast. If I'm going to put him away, it was going to be. Sorry, if I'm going to find him guilty, it has to be for something more solid. I has my, my. See, chat, you know, that's what I keep telling y'all. Haters like Meek Mill, they wanted Dirk to be found guilty to try to find a reason to blame me. The jurors speaking, yo, bro, we weren't going to find him guilty off of lyrics.
Starting point is 05:45:54 We ain't going to find him guilty off of no big act interviews. Big act. We love Big act. You feel what I'm saying? But you listen to a hater like Meek Mill? He got the voododol in his pocket going crazy. Summoning in some African, like, you know what I mean, deities or whatever he got going on? Yeah, shit's crazy.
Starting point is 05:46:11 You listen to those guys? I sent Dirk to jail, right? These guys, man. It has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, man. And that just, that's a weird, not the line, that's also a weird precedent to set. But that's a full another discussion. I don't want to get into that because, like, again, that might be beyond. I wasn't trying to think about that.
Starting point is 05:46:30 in the jury room i really tried to really follow my my my my my role as a juror okay so the floor is yours say whatever you want this is going to be the last part of it i'm going to treat you like the room and make you the as ua why was it important for you to come and say your your part of what you took into the jury room why was this conversation important In your opinion? Well, one, I want to say again, I don't want to make life of the fact that, you know, Lopap, Savi, Savi Robinson, that recipes to him and I hope his family, my prayers go out to his family, first and foremost, but yeah, this is a huge, I realize after we're like, this is a huge deal. And there's a lot of, there's a lot of demand for what exactly, like, we want to know more about this.
Starting point is 05:47:32 I'm like, all right, cool. I could, as best to my ability, I could, I could maybe fill in a couple blanks as to why. Because there's a, I feel like there's a lot of misconceptions out there and a lot of, like, why did so? Why did this? Because 12 and 0, not guilty on all counts. That's, you know, from the outside looking in, that might, I'm like, whoa, like, they had nothing on them. And it's not that they didn't have, it's not that the prosecution didn't have anything on him. Is that they didn't have enough on him.
Starting point is 05:48:00 Right. you know, I'm not doing this for for a plow or none of that stuff. Like, no one knows who I am, hoping. Nobody knows who I am. I think it's important to share a different perspective of what was going. Because I don't want anyone to think,
Starting point is 05:48:17 man, the jury did this because Dirk was a blah, blah, blah. No, I have no idea who Dirk is. I don't really, you know. Yeah, that's still tripping me out. You know who I am, but not Dirk? I listen to, I listen to, oh, I'm not going to say, but, you know, my, my musical tastes are different from what Dirk's music is. You know, I have no, there's nothing to gain from this.
Starting point is 05:48:41 It's more of a thing where I just, I just hope that people understand the process I went into the, the, how much work we put in, how proud I am of the other juries that we, though there were differences. Definitely some differences. You know, Kanye, academics, Drake and Kendrick, but not Dirk. Many differences. Though there was points in time where we were at each other's, I don't know out, we were at each other's throats. Like we, yeah, there was, there was a lot of back and forth. It was three days of deliberation. It would have gone on to like a week more because we were that thorough.
Starting point is 05:49:17 But I think it was important that people realized that we didn't come to this conclusion lightly that we went through every available avenue. We looked at every piece of evidence that we felt could have been damning and we just didn't, if there just wasn't, wasn't enough there. I'm hoping maybe my perspective as a journey would like help people see that. I'll just be fair, I'd definitely let you know a bunch of times like it is important. And I said, you don't got to do this shit with me. You could go to somebody else and do this shit, but it is vitally important because I don't believe people understand just how damn important jury duty is because I'm going to skip
Starting point is 05:49:58 this a little bit. There's that's not to say that we didn't put our, we didn't check our baggage at the door and we took our job as a, as a Jersey, all of us checked everything at the door, but everyone has their own experience in life, right? Everyone has their, not that's obvious, everyone has their own kind of experience of life with different people, different groups of people, different, uh, um, what's the word, um, institutions, things of that nature. Uh, and,
Starting point is 05:50:29 We had to kind of iron those out before we continued on with an unbiased. Okay, I think we could lead that there. Thank you to the juror. By the way, you guys could go watch Sedi Nash. If you want to watch any parts we may have missed, I think we listened to a huge chunk of it. Thank you, Setti Nash. And shout to even Cousinino.
Starting point is 05:50:46 We confirmed that this person is actually legit. He's actually one of the jurors that was there. Okay. I want to clear something up. Okay. Emergency clear up. Okay. there is a circulating rumor
Starting point is 05:51:04 that is saying that OG3 through court documents was confirmed as a cooperate with the Houston Police Department there's a screenshot floating around several pages has shared it including academic TV which I told them immediately to remove
Starting point is 05:51:22 it says pre-trial services have noted that Mr. John Pierre which would be OG3 is a business mogul for the label for the label Never Broke Again, LLC, which operates as a global joint venture and imprint under Motown Records. Houston PD have stated that Mr. Jean-Pierre has been working closely with them since July 11, 2018, under close supervision in order to resolve several cases tied to Mr. Fields.
Starting point is 05:51:48 Listen, that's a very and heavy accusation. I've went through all court documents filed for either Benjamin Fields, which is Ben 10, and also Mr. Jean-Pierre, which is OG3, there is nothing that is listed on the document that's not sealed that I could see that actually has this worded, okay? So I'm here to say this is fake, this is false, okay? It's very important, you know, while we're covering these cases or we're, you know, some of these guys, they're locked up or they don't have a voice in their lives.
Starting point is 05:52:22 And, you know, obviously safety matters with, like, you know, internet narrows. we make sure we clear people's names. So OG3, this does not, is not, I cannot find. And by the way, if you guys do want all the official documents, you could go to the academy, the academy.blog. You go there, and the latest documents on three is actually on the latest post. I'm going to show you what was actually posted,
Starting point is 05:52:45 and I'll give you the latest update on it, but just for your information, this is not true, not true. Again, I'm certifying it as not true because I cannot find any place in any docket, whether for Benton, whether for OG3, whether for NBA Ron, or for the other two individuals that have been indicted in that case where they have said that pretrial services made a note that he's been working with any type of Houston police, okay? So that is just not a thing.
Starting point is 05:53:21 I will show you the actual document that was filed, but I want to give you the back. background of what's happened. So OG3 lives in Texas, okay, Houston, and he was picked up by Houston police. The FBI and feds have him, but when it comes to Ben 10, he was in Louisiana. So he's going to get extradited. I think he's going to be doing his first appearance because he waived extradition. He's going to do his first appearance in Houston, but that's on the 2nd of October. Okay. So Ben 10, second of October, he's going to have an appearance where it's going to be a first appearance and maybe they'll revisit Bond even though Bond was denied in, um, actually it wasn't decided yet, but they made mention of trying to get in Bond in Louisiana. It probably will not
Starting point is 05:54:17 be accepted due to his record and also many other things of. them claiming that despite him being a felon that shouldn't have a weapon. He has many different videos and pictures on Instagram with him have the gun. Now, as to OG3, and this is very important. I know there's a lot of fans, some are kids and some are growing adults, but we got it. This is a very serious matter. And I obviously, I know OG3, I know Ben 10.
Starting point is 05:54:44 I know NBA young boy. So I want to make sure we have accurate information floating around about these guys. Okay. So as to OG3, okay? Remember I told you, they submitted, okay? They submitted an entire, it's called Memorandum in Support to get him bond. The government, the judge actually granted it. So the judge granted it orally, all right?
Starting point is 05:55:18 So he was supposed to get bond. Now, here's the thing, and I'm going to try to break it down really quickly. He went before what's called a magistrate. So this is how federal court works. When you go in, it's district court. It handles civil cases and criminal cases. But district court is where you're going to find, it's like the first level of federal court. In after district court, you have circuit court that's appeal.
Starting point is 05:55:52 Appeal Court or appellate court, and then after circuit court, it's the Supreme Court. It's really simple, okay? Now, with district court, what usually happens is that there's a magistrate judge. It's different than a district judge. Your district judge is going to be your trial judge. They're going to stay from the beginning of the case to the end. So whether it goes to trial, no matter what happens, they're going to stay till then. Even if you go on probation, they're still your judge.
Starting point is 05:56:19 before it gets to be assigned to a district judge. By the way, a district judge is also appointed by the president of the United States. Okay? The president of the United States appoints district judges. Okay. Whatever there's a vacancy, they serve for life. So whatever the current president is, when there's open, open and they appoint district judges. Now, because there's only certain amount of those district judges, there's what's called,
Starting point is 05:56:49 magistrate judges. And by the way, it's the same term that even applies on a state level. A magistrate judge is usually what's called an intake judge. They don't sit for the trial. They sit and they will do a first appearance. They kind of sort out the cases as they come in, but they'll do like one, maybe two hearings with you. Then the case will get assigned to an actual district judge, which will be the trial judge. Most people try to go for bond twice. You want to go with the magistrate judge and then with the district judge. I told you. OG3 had a significant package.
Starting point is 05:57:29 Pause. Pause. But he had a significant, like, you know, bail package offered where he would have monitoring, staying at home, he would pay whatever. And he had several high-ranking officials in the community that wrote letters on his behalf. So what happened is that the magistrate, the intake judge, given the fact that he doesn't have any violent offenses, right? He doesn't have any violent offenses about on his record.
Starting point is 05:58:05 They actually approved for him to get released. And by the way, if you're wondering what that package was, pause again. Here we go. Here we go. So remember, this is where we're going to get to the letter. Remember, he had significant amount of letters. A lot of high-profile people wrote letters saying, yo, OG3 is a good dude, okay? We had some, look, I'm chief of staff from a capital group.
Starting point is 05:58:34 Then we had a Houston Fire Department person, okay? Who else? Who else? Who else? This is head coach. Yeah, this is, who is this? This is an assistant head coach. Who is this?
Starting point is 05:58:54 This is da-da-da-da-da-da. This is N-W-A-C-P. This is social media behavior analyst. It's a lot of high-ranking people. Beath of that I've known for many years. This person is a manager for Master Pete. So the judge, the magistrate judge looked at it. He doesn't have that much.
Starting point is 05:59:18 He doesn't have that much. gun violent passed, doesn't have gun cases or anything of the sort. And they said, you know what, based on that, we're going to give him a bond. When they gave OG3 a bond, the government came in with an emergency order to keep him. They don't want them to be let go. And this is where the government filed their own set of, you know, reasons why they believe that OG3 should be kept in custody. Now, that false thing that says, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-a-da-saverses, this would come from the government.
Starting point is 05:59:56 It would be the government saying, oh, pre-trial services is noted, X-bblah, blah-blah, da-da-da. Okay. Even though technically this could have been from, I don't know, like a police officer, but there is no police officer that, like, again, I have the document. Trust me, I looked at it all. So, I looked, I scoured through. through everything.
Starting point is 06:00:19 I scoured through everything. Who is this right here? This is just somebody who does, it's a mentor, okay, or, okay. What is this? This person is VA healthcare system. Yeah, there's nothing about pretrial, you know. Let's see, pre-trial.
Starting point is 06:00:44 Let's see, there's no, yeah, yeah. Yeah. There's nothing about Houston PD. It's, you know, yeah. Only thing, he was like, hey, he's a young man with meaningful and longstanding ties to Houston. That's it. Okay? So I want to be very careful.
Starting point is 06:01:04 And, you know, I want to squash the rumor that he's working with the cops or has work with the cops. Again, you guys could read this. This is on the academy. That blog. There is nothing here about him cooperating. With police. By the way, this is a crazy image. This is All-Star JR.
Starting point is 06:01:29 Look, you know who this is? This is Ben 10. He's fucking knocked out. Like, he's paralyzed. He's paralyzed. And look, wow. You see that muzzle flash? And this is before All-Star tries to shoot him in the head.
Starting point is 06:01:47 So I think he shoots him like somewhere in the stomach or something. and then the gun runs out a bullet. And then he tries to, he aims it at his head and tries to shoot again and the gun doesn't fire because it's cocked back. I think he tries to, but there's no more bullets. But yeah, not going to lie, this is crazy, right? Anyway. Now, let me read the new document about OG3 that was filed.
Starting point is 06:02:15 This is the emergency order or the emergency, the emergency motion for a stay on a, order of release, okay? So let me read it. Nothing is, again, I want to make it clear. This image is absolutely not true. From what I have seen and I've looked through every document available. This is not anything that is filed in federal court about OG3. I don't know who made it up, okay? All right. And I just want to caution anyone who is going to put that out. Please take it from someone who's actually looking at all the court documents. It is not true. Okay, so I did put the latest motion up here, and it's the last one here.
Starting point is 06:02:59 Okay, so let me read it. So it says the United States files this emergency motion to stay an order of release and respectfully submits this brief in further support of the motion requesting to, number one, revoke the magistrate's judge release order pursuant to blah, blah, and to an order requiring defendant to remain detained pending trial. Okay? All right. Now, by the way, the judge did sign this, and he signed the state order,
Starting point is 06:03:27 which now he has set a date for the motion to be argued that maybe he could either reverse it or not, but currently he cannot take a bond, but there is a hearing that's going to come later. But let me finish reading this. On September 2nd, a federal grand jury in the South District of Texas, returning indictment, charge in defendant with aided and bedding, interference with commerce by robbery in violation of 18 USC 1951 and two a bed and burnished
Starting point is 06:03:56 a firearm during a relation of a crime and violence in violation of 18 USC 924 as charging the indictment defendant Jean-Pier which by the way that is OG3 with his co-defendants unlawfully obstructed delayed and affected interstate commerce by in the movement of articles and commodities of commerce by the means of robbery as the terms kind of Commerce and robbery are defined entitled to United States Code 1951B. Okay. In defendants, okay, okay, okay, whatever, whatever. So, the defendants did unlawfully take and obtain the property of Jeremy Ford,
Starting point is 06:04:33 a.k.a. All-Star, namely jury and a watch against his will by means of actual threat, force, violence, and fear of injury to his person, which resulted in the loss of U.S. currency for the Confession, Restaurant, and Lounge. located in Texas in the Southern District of Texas. Additionally, the defendant, along with his co-defendants, aided in each other, did not only brandished a firearm, namely a handgun during the in relation to the crime of violence
Starting point is 06:04:59 for which they may be prosecuting the court of the United States. That being interference with the commerce by robbery for the robbery of Jeremy Ford in confessions. On or about September 10th, OG3 was arrested in the Southern District of Texas pursuant to an arrest warrant that was issued by a federal grand jury. On the 14th, he had his initial appearance before the magistrate, Peter Bray, in the Southern District of Texas. At this initial appearance, the United States requested that
Starting point is 06:05:28 defendant Jean-Pierre be detained based on the presumption of a flight risk endangered to the community. On the 18th, the detention hearing was held before the United States judge magistrate Christina A. Bryant. So it looked like there was two different magistrates, which is usually different, which denied the government request for detention of OG3 and order that he be released on bond and condition. Now, they're saying a stay of that order is relevant. It says if a person is already, is if a person is ordered released by a magistrate judge, the attorney for the government may file with the court having original jurisdiction over the offense, a motion for revocation of the order or amendment of the conditions of release.
Starting point is 06:06:16 The motion shall be determined promptly, okay? Because OD3 is charged in Southern District of Texas, this court has the original jurisdiction over the offense and will be the proper form to hear the government's forthcoming emotional revocation of the order of release. The district court reviews a release order de novo. Okay, they're talking about some of the cases. And let me see if we get to speaking about him a little bit more.
Starting point is 06:06:39 I'm going to have to sneeze in a second. Sorry. The court has the authority to review. The magistrate judge released order. order on the 18 U.S.C. 3145, the standard applicable to a district judge review in the magistrate judge release order is de novo. Indeed, a de novo review of the factors enumerated should persuade the court that the defendants represented a risk of non-appearance. Accordingly, the court should order the defendant to remain detained pending trial, pursued to 18 U.S.C. 3142.
Starting point is 06:07:12 The offenses with in which defendant OG3 is charged is particularly serious given the fact that the defendant's participation in robbery assault and brandished in a firearm in a restaurant occupied by innocent bystanders, one of whom was shot. As discussed above, defendant Jean-Pierre participated in aiding and abettling of the robbery of Jeremy Ford, which resulted in the loss of profits to confessions restaurant and lounge where the robbery, when the robbery escalated and gunfire erupted. Defendant OG3 faces significant penalties and punishment should he be found. guilty of the Hobbs Act robbery to include up to 20 years in prison, quarter million dollars in fine and three years of supervised release and a hundred dollars special assessment. He faces significant penalties and punishment should he be found guilty of a and abetting the brandishing of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence, to not include more than less than seven years and no more than life in prison, which is consecutive to any other conviction or count of conviction,
Starting point is 06:08:07 quarter million five, again, up to a five-year supervised release. Now, that's The second part is not the robbery of Jeremy Ford, AK, All-Star, JR. That has to do with, so OG3 took out his gun in the elevator. And they're saying that the crime was still occurring, even though he was not in the vicinity of All-Star anymore. But since it's in the sequence of the crime committed, OG3 taking out a gun, given the fact that he's seen as one of the culprits of the crime, he did brandish a gun in relation to a crime of violence.
Starting point is 06:08:40 and that is just a separate charge. Which, by the way, OG3's counsel made a reference to say, when he did interfere, no, no, he got in one fight, and that was way after the incident was done, and he only brandished that gun to provide safety after bullets got fired by All-StarJ. So they're saying it has nothing to do with the initial robbery. Okay.
Starting point is 06:09:09 Risk of flight anonymous. appearance. Defendant Jean-Pierre, OG3, as a history, sorry, history of prior arrest, some of which which has no disposition and a misdemeanor conviction. At Jean-Pier's detention hearing, the court took judicial notice of the pretrial service report where Jean-Pier's criminal history includes several arrests and a conviction for possession of marijuana, misdemeanor, which was reduced from the felony offense of manufacture, distribution, possession of a Schedule 1 control substance. OG3 was sentenced to one-year probation in 2016.
Starting point is 06:09:43 Before that probation had expired, he got a probation revoked, and it was sentenced to two-month confinement from 2016 to 2024. He was arrested in Louisiana, Orange County, Texas, Harris County, Texas, Weber County, Utah. OG3 was placed on bond conditions by felony court of Harris County. Texas, after his arrest for the felony offense of evading arrests in a motor vehicle, the government admitted government admitted government exhibit three. which, by the way, chat, this might hold him in jail. Anytime they could show you running from police,
Starting point is 06:10:16 they get to have a good case of why you shouldn't get bond because they're like, yo, if he was running from the police, stop him, like, why the hell would he run when we let him out on bond? But again, he doesn't have felony convictions, so I think that's going to, you know, I still think when you wait the evidence, it's going to, you know, away the circumstances, it's still in favor of releasing him, in my opinion. Let me keep it going, though.
Starting point is 06:10:38 The government admitted, okay, the Dada showing the court filed a bond condition violation report, reporting that Jean-Pierr, OG3's failure to comply with drug and alcohol testing and failure to report to pre-trial services. Based on these violations, the government believes they have shown a preponderance of the evidence in risk of non-appearance, danger to the community. The offense for which defendant Jean-Pier has been indicted were captured on the surveillance system. The video shows Jean-Pierre brandishing a firearm at the beginning. enough the altercation. Ooh, so they're saying he took out a gun in the beginning. It further shows Jean-Pier's mother attempting to keep him away from the altercation, but OG3 demonstrates his desire to partake in the robbery. The video clearly demonstrates John Pierre's assaulting All-Star. The government contends that they have shown clear and
Starting point is 06:11:26 convincing evidence for OG3 being a danger to the community. For the foregoing reasons, the United States respectfully request that this court stays the magistrate judge release order and hold a de novo hearing at the court's earliest convenience, okay? They have signed this, okay? And, yeah, so certificate of service, all that stuff. And it was granted, I believe. I forgot what was the, I forgot what time they pushed it to, or what date, actually. So just to let you guys know, once again, I'm just letting you guys know,
Starting point is 06:12:05 this is not a real thing. Okay? It's not a real thing. Okay. Prayers to all the brothers involved from All-Star to OG3 and of course, Ben 10. Hopefully the justice system works in their favor and, you know, hopefully you can have some type of mercy on them
Starting point is 06:12:28 or, you know, hopefully they're innocent of these things. Okay. You can move past that real quick. All right, Chet. All right. We're moving. We're moving. We're moving.
Starting point is 06:12:42 Okay. Have y'all seen the whole situation with Shaq? So Shaq is beefing with like this guy. And it all started. The FBI director, which is Cash Patel, made Shaq a honorary member of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Shack, who accepted the honor, as you can see here, also had a speech. And, you know, a lot of people have been critical of Shaq saying, you know, Shack's been a sellout for a long time. I see people are now bringing up an old thing from 2016 where it says Shaq on Colin Kaepernick National Anthem Protest,
Starting point is 06:13:43 where Shaq says, I would never do that. So they're kind of saying Shaq is a sellout. brother. Shack gave a speech at the award ceremony. And let's see if I could get that going. Here we go. Some of you don't do what I do, be under cover. Now, if you guys don't know, Shacks already, he's already an honorary cop, or he's actually listed as a reserve police officer for the Miami Beach Police Department. He's gotten that for a long time. He also, they say other departments, they said,
Starting point is 06:14:47 Port of Los Angeles and Golden Beach have also, like, given him, like, I don't even know if it's a real badge or whatever, but, you know, know, look, he's been named an auxiliary deputy for Broward County. Basically, like, Shaq's the definition of police, okay? You know, now I don't know what a honorary or reserve police means, but Shaq has gotten bestowed these awards. Now he's a honorary FBI agent. I want to say, I appreciate you guys so much.
Starting point is 06:15:24 Congratulations. I'm not here for this. I am here for you. I appreciate you. I love you and thank you very much. And you see Charles Bartley, arrest. Clearly people are taking some of this in tongue and cheek.
Starting point is 06:15:42 You know, not everybody's taking it too serious. Shacks and jokes are a lot of people recognize that. Well, not everybody liked that. Okay. There was one fan who made a video about this and you know he wasn't that pleased uh this is how the video started okay let me get a second up let's say we can play the full video no there's a full video of it
Starting point is 06:16:08 what's this guy's name because this guy and him was going back and forth i can't even lie shack jersey okay i'm gonna try to just play the whole video it's gonna be somewhere it's more than minute 20 i know that in a second scroll down a little bit more i guess that's the only thing that's there? The minute and 21. Fuck it. We'll just play that. Okay. So,
Starting point is 06:16:45 this is money. Money, my nigga. Money. You feel me? You can't be making shoes for low-income people and you sit next to this motherfucker who basically said applicants can conduct themselves
Starting point is 06:17:03 in bestiality. You stupid, niggia. You're a fuck, nigga. You was my favorite. Like, you know, you niggas is hurting people's hearts out here. So, fuck you. How much time I got to live? We got time. We got time today.
Starting point is 06:17:22 Trash, nigga. One thing, you know, supporting whatever you support. But no, nigga. You from the bricks, nigga. You sitting down with the aeroys, my nigga? Ain't that serious, my nigga. Fuck out of here. Shucking and jiving and skinning and grinning with that marked-ass,
Starting point is 06:17:59 nigga. By the way, I did find the full video. It doesn't really have much more than that. Congratulations to our newest FBI National Academy graduates. FBI was honored to be joined by one of the best supporters of law enforcement in the country. You fucking around, you quail. You know, sometimes it's okay to say fucking no, you know. But you ain't special because I have favorite athletes.
Starting point is 06:19:02 Lawrence Taylor was one of them. They called me Baby Shack when I was in high school. Nobody caught the baby Shack, bro. But I stand no morals. Actually, maybe they did. Yo, what's on that nigga's neck, bro? But I stand no morals. I know it's ain't the powder puff girl.
Starting point is 06:19:26 No fucking way. You fucking with that nigga? You from Norke, New Jersey? You fucking with that clown? I forgot that's from Jersey. Nass nigger. Fuck you, man. See this shit?
Starting point is 06:19:38 This is money. All right, so he throws it away. Now, the interesting part is that I guess Shaq seen that video and Shaq got in this nigga DM and start cooking him. You get what I'm saying? So he made another video.
Starting point is 06:19:54 And he talked about, I guess Shaq said, I hear you broke boy. He says, I hear you broke boy, have whatever, whatever. Okay. So the guy responded again. So Shaq responded to him. He's just called it broke.
Starting point is 06:20:08 Dr. Shaquale, O'Neill says, I hear you, bro, boy. Have a great time in your apartment with your family. Well, let's get one thing straight. I ain't your fucking boy, nigga. I'm a whole ass man out here. So let's get that shit straight, my nigga. I ain't your fucking boy, partner.
Starting point is 06:20:29 I was just a nigga who supported your ass with your whack-ass fucking movie blue chips. Your whack-ass shack-food kung fu game. Your bummy-ass sneakers. your low free throw percentage, your inability to have a fucking conversation without sounding like, I was just a nigga who is a fan of you. You know what I'm saying? But clearly my video has reached out to Shaquille O'Neill, and a person who makes sneakers for low-income families and shit
Starting point is 06:21:01 is just spewing classism in my motherfucker inbox, nigga. So let me ask you a question, homie. Did you learn that from Mr. Harrison, your stepdaddy? You know the one who stepped up when your biological father didn't bother? The one who you told the whole world instilled discipline and integrity to do the right thing to never quit. Did he teach you this shit to? Or now all of a sudden when the nigger call you out, now you're from Norke, nigger,
Starting point is 06:21:31 now you're from the bricks now. Word? Well, motherfucker, I'm from Oakland-Callel motherfucker fool you. And I'm a retired non-commissioned officer who's standing on rules and principles, nigga. I used to rock with your goofy ass, nigger. And now you up here politicking with motherfuggers who protect pedophiles, my nigga? But you mad at me, though, because I'm a real solid nigga like, fuck this nigga, and dumped your shit. Let me explain something to you.
Starting point is 06:21:59 Combat veteran, two tours. I'm a homeowner, my nigga. And whether you are ex-fat, out-of-shaped basketball player or a regular nigga on the street, I ain't going to ever let no motherfucker try to flex on me, nigger-like, I ain't. ain't got shit, nigga, I'm a homeowner, nigga ain't done special, but this shit mine, nigga. Don't you having your motherfucking life home boy come at me
Starting point is 06:22:22 crazy because you mad because people getting on your fucking helmet for going out dumb bad, nigga? You got me fucked up. So try again like your ass at the fucking free throw line. And my feet's prettier than yours, nigga. And fuck Papa John's too, nigga.
Starting point is 06:22:39 Marcos. Roundtable pizza, nigga. Fuck out of here. shoot it no do you want me to pass it no do you want me to slam now apparently shack responded by dropping the AI this let's go to Shaq's page and see if we could figure out what he dropped but he dropped this in his response to homie he says enjoy this in your apartment my new video chaos Chaos featuring Luke Glon. Love you. Even the haters.
Starting point is 06:23:58 ski or take a jet to ski way up and y'all know I pressure free lay up y'all can go referee I get new paper they got extra me and it's two door it ain't but a pet to me fish motor coop when I fly through a gas in the bottle I'm hot as a mile anyway hang on line
Starting point is 06:24:14 they're cooking him though in the comments they said remember kids money can't on lame you half your fans live in apartment shack said Brody literally shows you a house said corny as fuck who'll sell some icy hot. 15,000 comments. We used to like you. 5,000 comments. So AI is now celebrity's way to pretend
Starting point is 06:24:34 they're unbothered. 2,000 comments. Hey, chat, G.P.T. Write me a corny disc track because OG Big Matt hurt my feelings, but make sure you add some grammatical errors so everyone think is legit. Candice says, I think Shaq ate the chicken from the undercover brother movie. Okay, bye. 50 years old, BT-dubs. Sorry, Shaq, you're losing us, brother. And AI videos your response? this is AI slop. But people in apartments are the only ones who buy your brand. Said, nah, this ain't it, dog. This shit is corny.
Starting point is 06:25:06 Somebody addresses you with real shit, and this is your reply? It's all a joke to you, people. Until you find out what they really think about you. Your money ain't going to mean shit, and neither will your legacy. Y'all really ignoring the Epstein elephant in the room, with y'all? Oh, shit. I don't know what's worse.
Starting point is 06:25:22 The one sharing or the one liking the AI slop. Dublin and tripling down, cash must have hit you with the nasty, Rico case, bro. Ain't no way, you just moving like this for no reason. Ain't no way. Historic levels of corny. You don't handle a criticism too well. Yeah, wrap up 2026. Loving the comment section, definitely passed the vibe check. Let's go back to this other guys page. I think he responded back to, uh, um, so, uh, I saw a video very, very disturbing, triggering. A man, uh, I don't think he's told my, uh, what's the name?
Starting point is 06:26:02 here. Hey, I'm not beefing with this nigga, but as a Shaq fan or an ex-Shack fan, I will tell you, that niggas is the reason
Starting point is 06:26:18 why the Lakers didn't win more championships. He was bullshit, so ultimately the progression of the Los Angeles Lakers stalled because he wanted to bullshit and fuck around. Kobe was the more serious player. That's neither here or there. Listen, I said what I said.
Starting point is 06:26:36 At my age, I remember supporting this nigger when people were making fun of him. He inspired, he motivated, he did a lot of things, and he still does a lot of things. But where we're at right now, we need people to make a fucking decision on who to fuck they're with and who are they for. This motherfucker was just up at Congress refusing to answer questions, trying to defend how an hour. would be worthy of being with the FBI if they fuck animals. The same goofy, googly-eyed motherfucker who wants to be a fucking Viking isn't cooperating to get the survivors of sexual assault and shit justice by releasing the Epstein files.
Starting point is 06:27:21 And the person we looked up to is going to share space with these motherfuckers? Absolutely fucking not. Y'all can support him. Hey, look, he will never understand what we go through. His struggles is a distant memory. He ain't got to worry about being poor no more. Sorry if I'm the nigger who like, no, fuck that. And let's just keep it a stack bundle.
Starting point is 06:27:49 Nigger could call me. I'm where I'm at right now. Hey, hey, check this out, blood. You know, ooh, oh, nigger. All right, y, y'all what I mean? All right, P, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. Video come down. I, nigger, politicking.
Starting point is 06:28:05 I ain't going to share it with nobody. I ain't gonna let the left hand know what the right hand doing, but I'll okay, my nigga. I bet I've been in that situation before. But until then, fuck that. Them the ops, my nigga, whatever. I'm not beefing with this, nigga. But one thing's for sure. Okay.
Starting point is 06:28:30 Hey, didn't you niggas say come to Oakland? Beef pants. Thank y'all for, wow. y'all, y'all cutting up. But this is the byproduct of what I do. Shaquille O'Neal was my favorite basketball player. The jersey I threw away I had since 2008. You feel me?
Starting point is 06:28:59 That jersey meant so much to me. And I was able to throw that shit away. Here's the thing. What I do. Yo, let me just interject here, man. Listen, this is why they say don't meet your heroes. To be honest, I think we watched Shaq on TV from when he was playing. They always called him Bigfella.
Starting point is 06:29:24 He was like the lovable big guy, the guy who smiled a lot. When he dunk hung on the ring, like it was really cool. It looked like a big kid out there. We like him on TNT. He's a pretty funny guy. You know, just public persona-wise is hard to not like the brand of Shaq. unfortunately once you get beyond that I don't know
Starting point is 06:29:45 if he's always been like that but Shaq is a complete asshole Shaq you know a guy who's approaching a billionaire if he's not you know he talks above everybody he addresses everybody as boy
Starting point is 06:29:59 he talks about you don't have money so you're not on his level you can't really compare to him or you know again and by the way I share the story of shit I remember when I post I posted, you know, and this was going to viral at the time, my bad. It was going to violate at the time.
Starting point is 06:30:18 Sorry. It was Shaq with the young girl, right? It was Shaq with a young girl. And then Shaq around the same time, he slid in the DM of someone that worked at Home Depot. And when he saw it on my page, Shaq hopped in my DMs with kind of the same type of here was the girl, which by the way, I see why. But still, he hopped in my DM, looked like, you know, he didn't like the fact that people were, you know,
Starting point is 06:30:53 I wasn't making that type of, um, um, insinuation, but some people were like, yo, Shaq, you could be her grandfather. Like, you need to calm it down. You a little bit too horny there, big fella. And, um, he hopped in my DM saying the same shit. I couldn't believe Shaq was talking to me like that. Shaq told me he could get me touched. I had to remind Shaq.
Starting point is 06:31:11 I said, Shaq, you know this is on Instagram, right? Like, I had to tell him like, nigger, I was so in shock that Shaq was told. Shaq basically damn near did a little dirk in the DMs. He put us putting a hit on me. I never, everything I heard about Shaq, I never knew that Shaq was this gangster. And, you know, obviously after that, I realized that after hearing multiple of the same stories from other people, I realized that the perception of Shaq is either. Either he's just gotten, he's been rich for so long that he's feeling himself or he was just a shitty person to begin with.
Starting point is 06:31:49 Okay. So when I hear what this guy, you know, says it reminds me of a lot of things. No matter how long he's been in the league, no matter how long he's been rich and famous, Shaq is 56 years old, has an ego that is fragile as a glass cup. Okay. he is super sensitive and he definitely holds a grudge. You could go back to many instances of, you know, people saying how them and Shaq have gotten into a shit. Shit, apparently Charleston White making a joke.
Starting point is 06:32:23 He's beefing with Charleston White. Apparently he's beefing with Vlad. He's leaving with everybody, okay? And everybody says the same thing. Shaq think he's going to be like some killer. avoided that statement and started speaking on an interview that I had just recently done with Rainwater Mothra's former manager after he had just left my city doing a song with the rapper Twisted Black who I've known to publicly have problems with and get on there and call me a snitch and the rap boy
Starting point is 06:33:03 and then send you know commit to get out some personal people in Florida that we know through Aden they calling me with the men let's meet up and these people willing to go to and kill behind Shatt. But then I got Wack 100 sending me some information that it made the FBI come back and look at Shack. I got Wax. Shout out to Shaq. Shout out to whack.
Starting point is 06:33:24 Me and Shaq got back. Shout out to whack. So now I don't know Shack didn't been involved in some gangster shit. Shack not been involved in some gangster shit that made the FBI. And then the nigger he called me is a real thoroughbred big. He allegedly Shack tried to put a hit out on a nigga for like 20 grand back in the day. And, you know, again, only the trash players go to jail.
Starting point is 06:33:45 Basically, I think they looked at it like it was kind of like some type of extortion thing too. So Shaq, you know, it was never made a big deal. His name was mentioned in paperwork, but they sealed a lot of that. You know, I mean, he was a star of LA. Like, come on, you're not going to have that, you know, guy go down, right?
Starting point is 06:34:01 Don, I got a lot of honor and a lot of respect. And he said, oh, you never heard of this? Shack 20K hit. See, they buried the shit out of that. Shaq mentioned in court documents For putting money up Here we go You'll find it somewhere
Starting point is 06:34:26 No, not that, not FTS We gotta put murder Yeah Apparently Shaq bin thought he was Gangsta Okay, yeah So it came out in a 2011 civil suit That made extremely unproven claims
Starting point is 06:34:51 That Shaq was ordering multiple killings Okay It was ordered multiple killings. In court filings, a guy alleged that Shaq requested and directed him to organize and fund hits on multiple people who had wronged the NBA star. Okay? These were the people he wanted killed. A member of the downtown gangster crypts, a prominent record producer, a woman that Shack supposedly impregnated, and a rival NBA player. Okay?
Starting point is 06:35:20 Yeah. It's crazy. Law enforcement of courts rejected the narrative regarding Anil's involvement. I'm internal, da-da-da, surface showing that investigator labeled Ross as an undesirable informant. And, yeah, they dropped all criminal charges against the gang members because the guy lacked credibility, but he did make those claims. Okay. Yeah. Shaq ordered multiple murders.
Starting point is 06:35:43 Like, you know what I mean? The little Dirk special. Right? A little Dirk special. It's a Shaq, former pal Robert Ross and ex-gang members suing him from allegedly mastermind to plot to have him kidnapped by the, da, da, da, all the type of stuff. All type of like crazy stuff. Now again, you know, the way it was like fully put out to the public is like, oh, this was bullshit. But when you keep hearing that Shaq talks like that, like because it sounded ludicrous.
Starting point is 06:36:10 Like Shaq is like Disney Channel, Nickelodeon. Like you don't think Shaq talks about murders though. Like, yo, Shaq, Shaq talks about getting me killed. Like, and I was like, yeah, I couldn't even believe it was Shaq, bro. I had to screenshot it. I was screenshot it for the FBI. know he's with the FBI. I'm like, what the fuck? Yo, wait, what?
Starting point is 06:36:30 Wait, what? Yo, chat, I was screenshotting in the case the FBI I had to give the FBI at one point. I look up and then it's gave a badge. Oh, hell no. Family. Hmm. I just talked to Shaq three weeks, three weeks prior to this.
Starting point is 06:36:48 So he said, man, I'm thinking we're not thought we meant what happened. So Shaq made it seem like it's all me. I never said none directly to Shaq. until he said what he said to me. Then I started saying, well, I used to have a young lady. I used to mess with Shaq used to be interested in. Diamond. Then I know another young lady, Shaq didn't try to fuck on that I didn't fuck on
Starting point is 06:37:06 and say he got the shrimp dick. So I started shooting below the bell. You know what I'm saying? You know what I heard? Yeah, Shaq extremely petty. So Shaq messaged the last like three women I was involved with. Like it was kind of like even odd. Like women that you guys don't even know I've ever like even talked to.
Starting point is 06:37:23 And I was like, damn. I'm like, this thing of Shaq take it personally. Remember I told you, I was like, I'm trying to squash the beef with this nigga. This thing is like he's trying to really go. Yeah, for real. I talked to Tusi, Tusi said the same thing. Shack tried to fuck his girl. Like, I'm like, yo, what?
Starting point is 06:37:37 It's Shaq's a menace. Straight up. Shack's a menace. You don't heard it too late. I'm like below the belt. Yeah, yeah, so I'm hitting him below the bell. You know what I'm saying? So then, during the big dog call, shout out to Sincerer.
Starting point is 06:37:50 Shout out to Big Wheel or Aiden Security. Yeah, when a big homie called, man, I'm like, Come on my nigga, you go crash out over this. I know you, and they were serious about this. So are you married or not married? I'm, yeah. Yo, Shack face, like, so Shack FaceTime. Like, it was so in disbelief.
Starting point is 06:38:07 Shack FaceTime my ex with his shirt off, nigger. In a dark corner, breathing hard. Like, for real, dead serious. Like, he was really trying to fuck. I'm like, yo, I'm like, yo, this guy's 55 doing this. This shit was sick. The shit was sick, gang. This shit was sick, bro.
Starting point is 06:38:27 Separated. Separated. Yeah, I'm separated. Shaq DM you yet? All right, good. He don't know about you yet. Okay. With a very understanding wife.
Starting point is 06:38:37 So you plan on getting divorced? So you just go keep it like this. Man, for better off of worse, the death do I for... And apparently after this, Shack cost out Vlad. That's why Vlad's started going up on with Shack. I told Vlad, I'm like, here we go. No, no.
Starting point is 06:39:02 Well, in our last interview, you talked about Shack. Shack and the whole situation you guys got into. I still don't know what he mad about. Right. And you would said that you would mess the same girl that Shack messed with and he had a shrimp dick and so forth. Well, I used to have a young lady. I used to mess with Shaq used to be interested in.
Starting point is 06:39:19 Diamond. Then I know another young lady, Shaq didn't try to fuck on that I didn't fuck on and say he got the shrimp dick. And I think I titled the clip. Yeah, he knows that. I didn't say it before. Well, so here's the thing. about me and Shaq. Me and Shaq first met in 2004 where he wanted, you know, I was a hot
Starting point is 06:39:39 mixtape DJ during that time and he had a freestyle where he disc Kobe and he gave me that freestyle to put out and it went viral back in the day, it was on ESPN and so forth. So ever since then, me and him have maintained a level of relationship. Yeah. Right. So he saw when I transitioned to Vlad TV and, you know, he would continuously over the year send me freestyles to put up or like a story that he wanted pushed or this, that, and the third. And every so often I'd be like, hey, Shaq, what's going on with the interview? Oh, I got you, I got you. And I'll see him do interviews on other platforms.
Starting point is 06:40:09 I'd say, hey, I see you on a media run. What's going on with the interview? Oh, we're going to do it. Don't worry. Year after year, year after year. This is now, I launched in 2008. It's been 16 years. That's how real friends do you.
Starting point is 06:40:21 Right. That's how real friends do you, right? So he reached out about the whole shrimp dick thing, right? And I think he was saying how, you know, he's not tripping and he's not tripping and he called rainwater a snitch or something, something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I said, well, listen, do you have, I know you.
Starting point is 06:40:37 So if you have a problem with it, did you want me to change the title or something? No, no, I'm not tripping. I'm not tripping. I'm like, cool, but you know, we have a relationship. So I respect that. So I saw he had done another interview on some platform I'd never heard of, right? It seemed like he goes and does interviews for girls who are just starting their podcast. Yo, Vlad love pressing niggins for them interviews, bro.
Starting point is 06:40:53 Right. So he can try to get in there. That's what I think, right? I don't know if it's true. You get a shrimp dick up in the market? Right. So I saw he had done an interview with some podcast I had never heard of that didn't have a following. And he's talking about investing and so forth.
Starting point is 06:41:05 So I hit him up. I said, yo, man, do you want to finally do this interview? We can focus on investing. Because I got Vlad stocks now and we're getting the following, teaching people how to do long-term investment, which is the type of thing that he does. Once again, no answer. So I finally just reached my breaking point, man.
Starting point is 06:41:20 I said, listen, man, I get it, Shaq. You don't fuck with me. I get it. I've been asking you now for years and years, and I've seen you do with these other platforms and, you know, I see that you just don't want to do my platform, but you don't have to keep saying, I got you because clearly you don't.
Starting point is 06:41:34 So he sent me about this long text message. He's calling me sensitive. He said, I told you I got you. But, you know, when you get out your feelings and you apologize, we can get back to our, you know, how things were or maybe we won't. I'm not tripping. And I'm looking at this going like, man, fuck you, man. What the fuck?
Starting point is 06:41:53 I got to apologize to you. The thing with people like Shaq, and this is what I realized over the years about these celebrity types, man. They have this image. Oh, I'm the nice guy. I'm the I'm everyone's friend, but most times they're assholes. And they keep the celebrity status and keep people around that will do shit for them without any sort of feeling that they'll ever do anything back in return.
Starting point is 06:42:15 For 16 years, I've been asking this man. Now hold on. For 18 years, I've been talking about this interview every so often and he's never done it. And he calls me sensitive and he wants me to apologize to him. Man, fuck. Oh, shit. But he reached out to you about the interview with the shrimp did. Right.
Starting point is 06:42:29 And he would reach out to me about posting his freestyles. I'm literally. Screen capturing, and sound like, yo, remember when you asked me to do this? Remember when you asked me to do this? Remember when he asked me?
Starting point is 06:42:36 They clap flag, man. It's Shaq, bro. Trust. It's definitely Shaq. All right. Anyway, unfortunately, I think Shaq is just, he's that much of a legend
Starting point is 06:42:55 that I don't think nothing could ever change his perception. Like, you know, trust me. Shack doesn't tell me he want to kill me. And I'm looking at it. I'm like, I ain't nobody
Starting point is 06:43:06 At first I even say nothing I'm like yo ain't nobody gonna believe this I'm like yo It's Shaq my nigga like You will you tell somebody like Yo you heard that Shaq Shaq say he want to murder me You're gonna be like
Starting point is 06:43:15 Bro Shaq didn't I tell you that Now you hear like 3,000 people With that type of like story You're like all right okay Anyway all right Whatever Where are we at would it By the chat
Starting point is 06:43:29 I think we are going into How long we've been on Seven hours? Okay We've been good That's so rocking or you're not tired Oh, seven hours. Okay, chat, did y'all see Big U?
Starting point is 06:43:53 So Big U apparently been trying to tell him, yo, listen, man, I'm tired of going to court, bro. He's refused to leave his cell. Now, the judge in Big U's federal case that's revolving around racketeering with extortion and murder has now made an order to say if Big U doesn't voluntarily want to leave itself to go to court for all of these hearings, and you got to imagine it probably sucks.
Starting point is 06:44:27 So somebody kind of explained it like, your bro, the dude is 60-something. If you think he wants to get up every morning, get ready to get transported to the court, he probably has a hearing for 15 minutes. His child is not starting soon. Like, it's just a, they're just dragging him around. Like, basically he's like, he's like cattle. And he's just kind of tired of just going back and forth because this case ain't starting anytime so. I kind of understand that, right?
Starting point is 06:44:57 And I even also heard somebody said, yo, maybe his lawyer should push for him to have like his hearings where he just stays at the jail because why have to go to the, you know, courthouse when ain't nothing really happening. Anyway, his lawyer hasn't made that case yet. and the judge when prompted by the prosecutor, actually it wasn't even prompted by the prosecutor, after they realized he didn't show up, a federal judge has authorized U.S. Marshal to use reasonable force and restraints to bring Big U to court. They say that the marshals must read Big U, the order,
Starting point is 06:45:35 given one final chance to cooperate before using force while accounting for any medical condition that could endanger him, but they're saying the hearing concern an attorney emergency request to withdraw. And the order remains active with future proceedings as Henley fights expanded federal RICO charges. Okay. So they're saying that, yeah, they're saying they could use some force.
Starting point is 06:45:58 And it looks like it's an emergency request from Henley's lawyer to withdraw from representing him. Now, I'm not too sure if this is non-payment or some other thing. But he said his defense has previously said it's sorting through more than 1.1 million pieces of evidence in the sprawling federal case, including thousands of surveillance videos, and tens of thousands of intercepted phone calls. Henley, oh, he's 59. He's remained in federal custody since March 2025. Federal prosecutors alleged the longtime music executive and former manager of Nipsey Hustling,
Starting point is 06:46:31 corrupt operated as a figure within the rule of 60 crypts. He's denied the allegations against him. Once again, he's accused of extortion, racketeering. Other crimes, obviously, under racketeering, other than extortion, but definitely also murder, murder of someone named R.W. Okay? So the judge is saying, grab his ass up and yank his ass in the court.
Starting point is 06:46:54 Just make sure if he got a bad leg, don't fuck up the leg. If he got a pacemaker, make sure he don't catch a heart attack, get him in here safely, but you could use some force. It is not acceptable for him not to show up to court, especially when he is in custody.
Starting point is 06:47:08 Speaking of which, did he? his lawyers are doing something similar where they're withdrawing from his case. And if you guys didn't see that, did he lawyer in one of his civil cases want to withdraw because of lack of payment? They're claiming that it's been over six months since did he cut the check. And the guy who infamacy says, don't worry if I write rhymes, I write checks, look like ain't no checks being written. Okay. Apparently, according to his counsel, Tremont, Michael Tremont, who is his counsel from Sure Tramante LLP, they put in a motion to withdraw as counsel.
Starting point is 06:47:47 And yes, you do have to ask to withdraw as counsel when you, after you put it in an appearance, okay? It says, I, Michael Tremant, an attorney duly admitted in the state of New York, a firm on the penalty of perjury the following. I'm a partner with the law firm, Sher Tramante, LLP, and I'm a counsel on record for Sean Combs in this matter, along with my colleague Erica Wolf, Exquire, and Katie Rensler. I'm fully familiar with the facts and circumstances
Starting point is 06:48:18 regarding the motion and the underlying action. I respectfully submit this affirmation in support of Sure Tramante's motion for all Sure Tramante's lawyers to withdraw as counsel for Mr. Combs and for retaining a lien pursuant to one. 1.1, local civil rule. Da-da-da-da. Okay. Church Romante and each of his individual lawyers who have appeared in his action seeks in order to be released, revealed, or relieved, as counsel for Mr. Combs, based upon a professional circumstance is described in da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 06:48:52 Mr. Combs is not paid a substantial balance of attorney fees, costs, and expenses, and the representation has been rendered unreasonably difficult by Mr. Combs' lack of communication and cooperation, resulted in the breakdown of attorney-client relationship. The New York rules of professional conduct permit a lawyer to withdraw as counsel with the court's permission when inter alia the withdrawal could be accomplished without material adverse effect on the interest of the client. Okay. The client deliberately disregards an agreement or obligation to the lawyer as to expenses or fees. Or the client fails to operate in otherwise renders the engagement reasonably difficult for the lawyer to carry, but reasonably difficult for the lawyer to carry out.
Starting point is 06:49:34 all these conditions are present here. First, Mr. Combs is in a substantial arrears in paying their legal fees. For many months, while they have been rendering legal services, Mr. Combs has not remitted any payment for the substantial balance of the attorney fees, costs, and expenses incurred during Cher Tramante's representation of him and his matter. More specifically, Mr. Combs has not paid Chertramont anything in over six months in his last payment related to fees and expenses that were incurred in late 20, Accordingly, a substantial portion of the overdue balance consists of invoices that are 90 days in arrears.
Starting point is 06:50:10 Should the court wish to consider additional information of these unpaid fees and expenses, we will make such things available for the court in camera review. Given the volume of work across this in numerous other cases, the magnitude of the past due balances and the absence of any payments for over six months, the continued representation of Mr. Combs would necessarily result in an unreasonable financial burden. in on-sher-Tremont. In addition, Mr. Combs refused to pay the in accordance with the express terms of the agreement to do so.
Starting point is 06:50:41 There has been a total breakdown in cooperation and communication with between Mr. Combs and the firms. Mr. Combs has declined to make himself available for timely, substantive, and direct communication about his cases for over four months. The firm's representation has been rendered unreasonably difficult by Mr. Combs' lack of communication, cooperation, I mean, result in the breakdown of attorney-client communications resulting or rendering I'm sure Tramont incapable of continuing to provide effective legal service to Combs. Okay. Yeah. All right. They're saying, okay. Finally, granting this application
Starting point is 06:51:17 will not have material effect on Mr. Combs. The defendant's motion to dismiss. The complaint were only recently resolved on September 4, 2026. The parties are in the early stage of discovery. Trial is not scheduled with the exception of a teleconference on September 17, 2026. at 2 p.m. With Church, Fremont, plans to attend unless relieved as counsel before the date. There are no hearings that would be delayed by the firm's withdrawal. Mr. Combs would not be prejudiced by the withdrawal. Okay.
Starting point is 06:51:47 So they're saying, Did he ain't pay? Which I might understand. Did he might be saying, hey, listen, man, I'm locked up right now. I don't think it's a money issue. I just don't think Diddy wants to deal with these cases while he's locked up. I think when he's free, he's going to get effective counsel. He's probably going to either do sweeping settlements or he's going to be very aggressive in fighting these cases.
Starting point is 06:52:13 Keep in mind there was not a conviction of anything to do with sexual assault. There was no conviction of sex trafficking. And he was only convicted of the Man Act, which was the transportation of prostitutes over, state lines. So, you know, with that and all the lawsuits he that's filed against him, he could still put up a good defense. Maybe some he might try to settle, but he might just be down to fight all of them. So I think right now, as he's indisposed, he is locked up. He's not currently at the best position to fight these cases. Diddy's release date is in two years.
Starting point is 06:52:54 It's in like January, two years from now, okay? Bureau of prisons, inmate search. We could look up Diddy by this tool, Sean Combs. Yes, and Sean Combs, 56. That's, it would be the release date of February 2028. If that's his full release date, usually you get six months before you would get a halfway house transfer. So by next year around this time, next year around this time, it is likely that Diddy will be released. So Diddy probably has 365 more days to be locked up.
Starting point is 06:53:44 Then he will be transferred to a, sorry, halfway house and he'll be on the path to freedom. So probably 365, trust me, that calendar is going quick. I think Diddy right now, he's just letting all these cases, whatever is going to be, he's going to come back, take a stock of where all his finances is at, all the current cases that still exist, and he's going to develop a plan at that point. Remember, he's still fighting for an appeal for resentencing. And by the way, his initial sentence date was like 29, 2029,
Starting point is 06:54:17 but it's reduced all the way down to 2028 and February. Again, that's not even thinking about the halfway house situation. So Diddy will be out. I don't think this is Did he being broke. Diddy has liquidated a bunch of places. I believe he sold or you plan to sell his Star Island property, the jet and all that. So, you know, he's made sure there's tens of millions of dollars at the disposal to either pay his lawyers off a four, keep his lifestyle going.
Starting point is 06:54:50 But Diddy will be out. Again, I say less than 12 months from now. All right? Or 12 months. Let's go. All righty then. Did I knock everything out? I didn't do the King Vaughn mess with Alex's sister.
Starting point is 06:55:13 Oh, I wanted to talk about Meek Mill real quick. Chat, pray for me. Pray for me, y'all. Pray for me. Meek Mill is fried, y'all. I never thought in my time covering rappers that a gangster rapper would not only have, gone to law enforcement on me. And yes, Meat Mill did try to alert Governor Josh Shapiro, which is the Pennsylvania governor, claiming that I was responsible for murders. He said he called
Starting point is 06:55:46 the governor personally, which I thought was snitching, but maybe not if you're from Philadelphia. I think in Philadelphia, that's okay. You know, different rules for different crews. Anyway, after doing that, he has begged several times for the entire rap community to canceled me. He asked for everybody to unfollow me and hit the mute button and the block button. Surprisingly, Meek Mill has actually blocked me three times before, only to unblock me just because he can't help himself. This time around, he said he was going to start streaming to come get at me because the only way to, you know, counteract act is for him to become a streamer himself. He's giving up on wraps. He now wants to be Kisanat. KC3. Maybe it's,
Starting point is 06:56:32 I don't know. M.3? I don't know. Anyway, don't hold your breath on that. He claims his first stream was going to be in front of my house. Don't hold your breath on that one. Anyway, after all that did not work, he's still getting clowned mercilessly. People are saying, wow, academics might have been right.
Starting point is 06:56:51 You definitely did fell off. It's not 2015. It's not even 2018. Those are the times that Meek Mill career had a little bit of, you know, not even a little bit. He was pretty relevant. He was one of the top. rappers. It's been a downworld spiral since. We've seen him sell abysmal numbers. AZ. Cheekate of today could probably outsell him. He got dropped from his label unceremoniously. He admitted that
Starting point is 06:57:17 pretty much when he was incarcerated, Jay-Z had to pay his legal fees. Trust me. I don't even want to pull up the clip. You could go find it. He admitted that. Jay-Z paid his legal fees, which, by the way, is why Jay-Z said, I could never be for that, nigga. Also, he had to sell two houses that he had to his boss, Ricky Rops, okay? And yet he still is showing off that he owns a Lamborghini Eurus or a Mayback. That apparently is the pride and joy of him celebrating his 20-year career. Now, since none of that has really, you know, calmed his soul down from accepting the fact that, you know what, and I don't take credit for it by myself.
Starting point is 06:57:59 It's a bunch of us. You know, I think, you know, if I was supposed to give like, I don't know, a Grammy speech of killing Meeks career, I'd probably say, hey, this award would not be, it would just not be for me. Aubrey, you come up here, you deserve it too. I think you put like the first stab in there. Come here, Nikki, you know once you left him, he turned into a crumbum. He was pretty much finished out on the streets. I'd probably be like, oh, yo, game. Oh, yo, now you got to come over to the East Coast with this one.
Starting point is 06:58:28 Remember what you did to him. Pest control still haunts him to this day. And even though Safari supposedly got chased by Meek Mill, I got to say, Safari, you come over here too. Because after he snitched on you to Nikki, and by the way, one of the most egregious offenses, he supposedly, the way he got Nikki, very on Philadelphia-like, very unthorrel-like, okay? This is not how you get a John, okay? There's some nut shit. Allegedly he was hanging around and he pulled out his phone. Okay?
Starting point is 06:59:05 He pulled out his phone. And while pulling out his phone, he videotaped Safari allegedly with, you know, a young woman. And then he sent it to Nikki and said, Nikki, come take a look at your man. Okay? Come take a look at your man. And essentially, he snitched on Safari to Nikki. Two months later, he didn't. he started dating her, okay?
Starting point is 06:59:29 And after, you know what I mean? Oh, by the way, did I tell you out a story of why he started beefing with Drake? Well, apparently, Nicky Minadz embarrassed him like in some designer store. She put a bunch of shit on the table. She expected him to pay for it. He didn't have enough cash. She looked at him and she said the infamous words that has devastated him to this day. Because he said to her, because, you know, he wanted him hoodniggas that refuse to have a credit card.
Starting point is 06:59:55 So he asked her saying, hey, I don't. got enough in cash because you pay for it, I give you back. And she looked at him and said, Drake will never do that to me. And he was heated. She took her shit, right? Separated, paid for her own shit and left in a car. Apparently Meek on the way back to the hotel, he was riding a bike with Dean. By the way, he could go watch a whole story off the record when I interviewed Dean.
Starting point is 07:00:19 Apparently Meek Mill was riding a bicycle and goddamn tweeting up a storm. And this is why the beef started, the first tweet started by, saying, don't ever compare that nigger Drake to me. And it all started because he couldn't pay for his girl's stuff in the store, and she violated him. You know the Queens bitch. Come on, man. You know that Queens chick saying a nigger like Drake would never do that.
Starting point is 07:00:42 And ever since then, he dissed Drake. Drake got on his ass, killed his career, and it's been all downhill from there. Very sad story. Anyway, I say all that to say, Meek Mill has finally reached the ultimate law. Okay? Meek Mill has now resorted to drinking goat blood. He got little stuffed dolls in his pocket that he's thinking they're voodoo dolls he's trying to stick pins in. And he's now praying to extraterrestrial spiritual figures.
Starting point is 07:01:15 He's doing all type of African voodoo. And in his opinion, he don't care what he got to do. He got to get me out of here. Chat, you got to see this. Trust me, I thought this was fake until, first of all, y'all seen that he called me for five days like a disgruntled ex. You put your phone on D&D, he calls twice to get through the D&D. You fucking block him, he calls you no caller's ID. Meek is a full-blown stalker.
Starting point is 07:01:43 Never thought I see the day. This ain't thorough filly shit. I can't believe it. However, Meek is down so bad. I asked him, do you want a box? because he said when he see me, he said he hope I got boxing gloves. I said, we don't got a hope.
Starting point is 07:01:59 Let's get in the ring. Aidan Ross will set it up. Me and you could get in the ring. You could do what you got to do in the ring in front of everybody. He don't want to do that. Okay? All he want to do is bunny hop. So now what he's done, he's bunny hopped his way over to Africa.
Starting point is 07:02:19 He's bunny hopped this way over there, chat. And let me tell you this. Meek Mill. After drinking goat blood, he got a chicken foot in his pocket, right? He got a chicken foot in his pocket. He got all type of, like, stuffed dolls with, like, my face on it. He is now summoning like Satan. I don't know what he's got going on.
Starting point is 07:02:40 I see him on Instagram under this pose talking about Isu, Isu, academics. Esop, no mercy. Esop. And he got all type of, like, he's sprinkling fairy dust. Yes, meek mill is fried. Frow ride him. Chat, friday. The nigger put a bunch of stars like he's sprinkling, like he's sprinkling some voodoo dust, gang, in the comments section.
Starting point is 07:03:10 Meek Mill is completely fried, y'all. Listen to what Meek Mill was doing. A grown-ass man in the morning. He was listening to this. Check this out. Issue is different from the one in your Bible and your corrupt. You have sit time. This boy, he got that, he's trying to put some bad juju on me.
Starting point is 07:03:32 He doing witchcraft. He doing voodoo. He doing African voodoo. Somebody told me meek milk been eating jol off rice for the last 30 days, hoping that this spell, this spell is going to come true. The nigger put a spell on me. What type of shit is this? A grown-ass gangster just put a spell on me.
Starting point is 07:03:57 Wee. You ever heard of Sabrina the teenage witch? It's Meek Mill, the grown-ass gangster. That's the bitch from goddamn Philly. He's sprinkling fairy dust on a picture of me. Meek needs help. He's fried. Fried.
Starting point is 07:04:18 Listen to this, man. Not issue. But it was during the Agai Crowder coming up with Yorba Bible or something that he came up with issues. Like go closer? Yes, you can come closer. issue, God of justice. Ishoe is one of the most powerful dighties in Europa land. Issue is kind.
Starting point is 07:04:42 Eshu doesn't make a joke with people's future. And Eshu, you will never see him to underwate Omabi. You don't lie to him. If you lie to him and he discover, he will fight back. And he's fighting, it destroys so many things. For example, you discover that somebody lies against you and you were not happy and you believed that this person was lying. You have a right to come to issue, to fight for you and offer a shoe that Pamkane, that so-so person said, who are you? Kilofer she, taniye.
Starting point is 07:05:28 Bamifeng, you, oh, no, this. And he said that you're going to offer you at the issue. You've got to fight the war. But always make sure that whatever you are telling the issue is the truth. And nothing but the truth. If you lie, what goes on who surely comes back? I've never seen such a thing, chat. Meek Mill is fraud.
Starting point is 07:05:51 Get this boy a helmet, man. And keep him away from all type of, all type of microwave waves, man. Like, I don't know. his brain is completely fried, my nigga. This nigga is fried. I've never seen such a thing. This is down bad central.
Starting point is 07:06:12 I want you out to keep me your prayers. I want you to pray to God. Jesus Christ. I want you to, you know, use your Bible when you pray for me. Whatever it is, Jew-Jew shit is he got going on. Please, leave me out of those. I know I'm from Jamaica, and we got something called Obia and I know the Haitians be doing something. I'm going to call voodoo, but we ain't going to play with God and Meek Mill.
Starting point is 07:06:33 By the way, this comes after Meek Mill wished me cancer and wished my mom a heart attack. Meek, let me tell you this. You want the secret? Because you're clearly like into other shit. If you sacrifice your first born son, Nick, I'll just go away. Let's see how dumb you are. If you sacrifice your firstborn son, I'll just leave. I'll just go back to Jamaica.
Starting point is 07:07:01 You want stupid motherfucker, man. Stupid motherfucker. Okay? All right. This guy's an idiot, man. All right. Uh, Boosey says that Goochie needs to stop rapping. Gucci went out bad, bro.
Starting point is 07:07:24 Like, what Gucci may needs to do is say, I did it because I'm a citizen now. Don't make no rap song testifying again. Man, I'm a citizen. I'm no longer Gucci. Roger Davis. What he did, the Y-N's, this should have never leave him. He needs to stop rapping. If I was, he needs to stop rapping. Like, what he did, bro, is just, the Y-N's pissed. I woke up to my DM. Nick, they are pissed. Who just shouldn't have told shit? He shouldn't identify them for shit.
Starting point is 07:08:07 Nobody should have said when they came in that shit. We're doing this shit for his album This is all the social media skid We already took out of blogs to post this. We're doing this shit for his album. We're doing this shit for his album. And if you fuck with my artists, I'm gonna sue y'all. If you arrest my artists, I'm gonna sue y'all.
Starting point is 07:08:30 Gucci, Gucci know what the fuck he did. Everybody trying to sugarcoat for this nigga. He know exactly what the fuck is. And with the feds, you don't need it. And what pissed me off? Even more. Well, pissed me off even more. He made a video saying,
Starting point is 07:08:51 ain't none of y'all got more money than me. Back to the fucking money over principals and morals. And then, then, then people talking about, he's a businessman now. Woo-da-woot-woot-woot-woot-woot-woot-oo. He's he has this now. A couple months ago, he was making video about snitches and all this shit woo to woo.
Starting point is 07:09:26 Like, we can't let these motherfuckers keep jumping the bushes. For him to do that, he heard it millions. This is Guchin, Maine, LaFleaf. This is Gouab. You heard what you just called him? This is Gouwaw.
Starting point is 07:09:48 He raised like, like Boosey? This nigger raised some niggas, boy. he raised some niggas and told how many videos that popped up when he's talking about fuck a snitch I never do this I never do that woo-da-woo-woo-woo and then they won't talk about
Starting point is 07:10:05 this is a clone no motherfucking clone this is the same nigga he shouldn't you're supposed to tell him oh man we're doing this shit for uh to get his ass
Starting point is 07:10:15 I'm gonna come out you know fuck all that shit then you go get back and put his ass up that's what you're gonna do Now he can't fight no contract Because his ass in the grade yard
Starting point is 07:10:27 If you like that You don't send no 24 25 year old nigga To life in prison If they convict him Because fought in the 50 is an L my nigga Where your heart at my nigga You was young as you as young as a motherfucker too
Starting point is 07:10:46 If you're gonna play it, play it right man You know Shistie wouldn't think him You know what Shicey thinking this goching man that nigga ain't fin on that nigga ain't finna tell on me and fuck up his reputation and he gonna get it back in blood
Starting point is 07:11:03 that what he thought he thought this nigga here I agree with Boosie man I think what Boosie's saying is right but I think Boosey also has to understand that man maybe you're like the only person that's still like
Starting point is 07:11:22 it's not an idea that the streets is not dead the idea that the streets don't tell, like it's a part of the game. I think snitching is an acceptable part of the game, especially for rap. You could always make it make sense. Yo, them niggas was stealing from me.
Starting point is 07:11:42 Them niggas try to fuck my bitch. Them niggit, that nigger tried to rob me. And once that has been kind of normalized, that's just part of the game at this point. So, you know, I think Bousie is kind of, like, and that's why we kind of like him. He's like the old school uncle. That'll be like back in my day, but it ain't your day no more, Boosie.
Starting point is 07:12:04 Telling is as part of the streets as anything else. Gucci clearly, you know, he's not by to perjure himself or get charged with obstruction of justice to save push heistee. There is no more. Oh, let me, let me save you. No, no, no. Basically, it is what it is. Okay. Basically, it is what it is.
Starting point is 07:12:30 All right. So at this point, you know, I agree with Boosie, but to act like Gucci's the only one, you'd be able informed. Everybody's doing the same thing. They're either doing it publicly. They're doing interrogation room. I want to hear kind of the street rappers just talk about. So now that we know it's not just 6-9 tell it.
Starting point is 07:12:58 And a lot of y'all are telling. what's the new rules or we're going to act like we're still like following the old rules because like that don't work also this idea like you know I agree I was going to say like the idea of feeling bad for shiracy but I agree with Boosey
Starting point is 07:13:21 because they're supposed to be all be streetniggers as I said man one thing I've always realized about the streets the streets create rules to take advantage of other people and rules for you not rules for me everybody was vocal on snitch when it was 6'9. When we've seen 10 other examples,
Starting point is 07:13:43 nobody won't talk about it no more. You know why? They scared that them other niggas might kill them. It's reality. I think these days, if you're tough enough to wear the title, you could tell. If you're not tough,
Starting point is 07:13:57 you better not tell. All right. What else is going on? By the way, the cause of death of hip-hop producer Take Heath has now been revealed. According to TMZ, hip-hop producer,
Starting point is 07:14:18 take Heath death. You know, number one, there's a bunch of bills that has, like, the creditors are coming out of the woodworks. American Express claim that they owed about $87,000. Bank of America claims that, yo, he leased some 2024 Mercedes-Denz GLS. They want $115,000. Shit, whoever owns the estate, they better return that goddamn car. They're basically saying there's a bunch of, there's a bunch of, bunch of cars and bunch of shit that is, you know, people want to get paid.
Starting point is 07:14:52 And I don't think he's broke at all, by the way. By any stretch of the imagination, I do not believe he's broke. It's just that, hey, now that he's dead, people want their shit back. That's it. He's not alive. They want their shit back where they want payment now. Okay? Before it gets all into the baby mamas or whoever else that's going to take the money and spend it,
Starting point is 07:15:10 they won't pay them now. By the way, the cause of death for take Heath was because of the toxic effects of drugs, actually. They're saying including ketamine and an active ingredient in cratum. I don't even know what this is. What's cratom? I don't know what that is. According to the National Medical Examiner Office, Keith had ketamine and mitragin in his system when he died.
Starting point is 07:15:34 Mishrigin is a chemical compound frowning a cratum, a tree from Southeast Asia that affects the brain's opioid receptors. As we previously reported, Tay was found dead body cops during a way. welfare check at his Nashville apartment back in June. Fowl play was not suspected, and the medical examiner notes he was found surrounded by drug paraphernalia. It's unclear if he was using Kratum, a federally legal substance at the time, or if he somehow came in contact with the drug another way. Take Heath also had nicotine and ethanol in the system, and the medical examiner notes that he had a mild coronary artery disease as well. Well, so it's looking like they're saying it was an overdose and most likely accidental, not, you know, some people were thinking, was it, you know, was it intentional?
Starting point is 07:16:33 But it looks like it might have been not intentional. Kratom, which is available at gas station, smoke shops, and convenience stores is a supplement that comes from a tree native to South Asia. Yeah. I didn't know, I didn't know ketamine could kill people. but it looks like it could. Well, isn't it a horse tranquilizer? So I guess I shouldn't know that, right? Hmm.
Starting point is 07:17:08 It looks like substance abuse is what people are going to say. Send my prayers to take Heath and his family. Okay. Let's see, chat. All right, chat, 10 minutes away from an eight-hour stream. I think I'm going to call it here. I appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 07:17:49 I know I did not stream yesterday, but I hope you guys were thoroughly entertained. We spent about two hours watching, you know, the jurors opinion about the trial, but it's all good. We spent two weeks covering that trial, so might as well. Other than that, I covered some Drake stuff. I didn't get into the Remi Ma and Mill stuff. I did cover Brittany Renner and Daphne. We talked to Brittany Renner. Daphne's on text. I'm trying to get that together. We didn't cover the King Vaughn topic, but we did cover OG3 possible release. Is YB under investigation? We didn't fully answer that question because
Starting point is 07:18:20 there's only, we'll get to that probably tomorrow. Big U. Court, we dealt with that. Smirkio's court date, will he get Bond? We gave her opinion on that. Jay Z Super Bowl and also Colin Kaepernick, we also held that down. And Drake Thomo, we did all that. So you know what, Chad? I think all things said, I think we had a good stream. I think we had a good stream, all right? All right, Chad, I love you. I'll see you out tomorrow. Tomorrow is Monday. Top of it is going to be top of the morning and a bunch of other stuff. Okay. All right, chat. Talk to you soon. Look, so look, he's been trying to get me and Woody back together. Him put me and Woody back together would have done way more than that one million than me and whack. He didn't have missed that on that because I would have took it to him.
Starting point is 07:19:18 He didn't miss that on me in 607 months for to be the biggest interview ever on the internet. I'm taking all that to him.

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