DJ Akademiks Live Streams - Lil Durk Trial Day 12. VERDICT WATCH! NEED JUST 1 JUROR TO SAY NOT GUILTY! WILL SMURK COME HOME? Part 2

Episode Date: September 10, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Okay, okay, real quick, real quick, this is not the update. Real quick, I just got a text. Lisa, Florida Defense Team, you know, she's connected to Dirk's team. She was promised that she would get a message if the clerk alerts Dirk's team or anyone of the defendants of possibly an update. Lisa has says, Act, I got a word of an emergency hearing. I'm walking to the courtroom right now. She's walking to the courthouse.
Starting point is 00:00:33 She says, I will update you once I know more. I'm sure, yeah, okay. Wow. Okay. Chat, look like we don't know what's happening. It could be a question for the judge. It could be maybe further instructions. It could be we want to see something.
Starting point is 00:00:58 But Lisa is heading over to the courtroom. I would imagine Taylor, she's kind of close by. she's heading over to the courtroom as well. Maybe a major update. Lisa called it an emergency. So we don't know if it's a verdict. Let's pump our, you know, breaks. We don't know if it's that,
Starting point is 00:01:17 but it seems to be somewhat of an update, okay? Let's calm down. All right. Taylor put this out an hour ago, so that wouldn't be pertinent. The message I got was from a minute ago. I got a text message a minute ago, okay? A minute ago.
Starting point is 00:01:32 All right. All right. Here we go. This was from an hour ago. This is kind of like 15 trials in one. So the jury has a lot to deliberate about. I'm hoping we get a verdict by today, tomorrow at the latest. But again, who knows there is a lot to consider? I don't want to make any wrong guesses. Yesterday with the defense closing arguments and the prosecution's closing arguments,
Starting point is 00:01:54 both sides did a really great job. Michael Moore specifically for the prosecution is a very compelling person to listen to. and he had a lot of mic drop quotes specifically when he stood up and said that Dirk, it was his beef, his money, his men, and then he got on a podcast and said he did it, which is not exactly what happened. And DJ academics has since come out and said that that was a script. They were playing. So, but I do think that language is going to stick out in the jury's minds.
Starting point is 00:02:24 And then you have Brian Steele and Drew Fingling who got up there and they just tore apart the cooperators and the witnesses for the prosecution. So a lot to consider in the deliberations rooms. I'm going to be camping out at the courthouse until we get a verdict so I can get you an update right away. But until then, it's just a waiting game. I will get back to you as soon as I know more. Okay, chat. We are waiting.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Shout to Bradford Cohen. Did he say anything? My Bradford is saying, okay. Shout to Bradford. Blackshard. Let's see what he's going to go. What's going on? Small crowd, mainly streamers waiting outside for the deliberation.
Starting point is 00:03:15 We're on lunch break. That's an hour ago. Trap for us. Read what tweet? There's a Taylor tweet? Taylor-Prize tweet. Here we go. As the jury deliberates, the defense has once again filed a motion to admit additional footage
Starting point is 00:03:40 from Dirk's interview with academics to provide complete evidence of bank statements. Mr. Banks' request that the court. court reopened evidence and allow admission under Rule 106 of the additional portions of the same conversation with DJ academics that the government misleadingly spliced up to its advantage. The motion reads. I think we have that motion here. Let me see if I could log into my email. Sorry, sorry, chat.
Starting point is 00:04:31 So they submit another motion, and the motion is really concerning trying to get more of the interview with me. Just give me one second, shot. Okay. I think I got it. I think I got it. Give me one second, one second, one second, one second. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:15 There we go. Okay. I apologize, by the way. Okay, I got the motion. We're going to read this motion. This is a renewed motion that has been filed today. Oh, there is a live feed outside the courtroom at this point. I'll sentence to 30 years today.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Okay, we're going to get to that in a second. Let me, let's start with this. Can't drag this? Maybe I can't. Oh, I can't drag this. Give me one second, chat. I'm just, no. No.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Okay, okay, okay. For a quick second, let me try to, I think this is it. All right, yes, got it. All right, Chad, this is a, renewed motion just filed United States versus Dirk Banks it says defendant Dirk Banks through his attorney Drew Finley Marissa Goldberg, Brian Steele,
Starting point is 00:06:59 and Chris O'Connor files his motion renewing his request to admit additional portions of Mr. Banks' statements to Dijic academics filed at docket entry 628 in light of the government's misleading arguments in his rebuttal closing in alternative Mr. Banks requests a curative
Starting point is 00:07:15 instruction directing the jury attention to the government's argument reminding the jury that is verdict may be based on the government's failure to bring its complete evidence of Mr. Bank's statements in that interview. Mr. Banks' request an immediate hearing and ruling on this request so that corrective action may be taken before the jury breaches a verdict. The motion is based upon the attached memorandum of points and authorities, the files and records in his case and such further evidence, da-da-da. Okay. Here's the point. Here's background. On August 31st, Mr. Banks moved for the admission of additional portions of his interview to the podcast of D.J. Academics that would have corrected the misimpression created by the government.
Starting point is 00:08:05 My bad chat. Anyway. Mr. Banks moved for the admission of the additional portions of his statements to the podcast for academics that would have corrected the misimpression created by the government misleading, tailored snippets. docket number 628. In the proposed portions, Mr. Banks explains that he has never taken Takashi 6-9 series, and he never let Slide for Vaughn comments get to his head. He also explains that because of the professional organization of people he has behind him, he stays out of beef like that, and his approach is to turn hate to love.
Starting point is 00:08:44 The court denied Mr. Banks' request. In its rebuttal closing, in which Mr. Banks, of course, did not have a chance to address, the government made arguments that compounded the misleading nature of its misleading Taylor snippets. The government argued before Mr. Banks is blaming his team for sliding for Vaughn and the way he had demanded a slide before he was arrested before the case in 2023,
Starting point is 00:09:07 Mr. Banks was interviewed by a podcaster named Dijic academics. This is the person who knew the exact facts of the death of King Vaughn as well as the beef going on with Cuando Rondo. Remember, this is an interviewer who interviewed other rapper named Six-9 who was yelling and screaming at the top of his lungs slide for Vaughan. that is the person, according to Justin Gibson, who really pissed off the defendant, in defendant words, pissed him off and was really drudging up the slide for Vaughn.
Starting point is 00:09:32 The same podcaster now we're in 2023. Murder is over. Savire Robinson is gone. And the podcaster having interviewed 6'9 seeks to ask Mr. Bank, hey, what about that slide for Vaughn movement? And this is what he says. The look on a podcaster's face, who knows the fact says it all. From the moment that began, from the moment that Mr. Banks begins to respond.
Starting point is 00:09:52 and in that brazen, incredible way, essentially admitted that he was involved with the murder for Mr. Robinson. This podcaster cannot even look him in the eye. Mr. Seale says, Your Honor, I'm going to pose an objection. The court says objection overrule. Mr. Moore says he can't even look him in the eye because he knows what you know.
Starting point is 00:10:09 He knows what Mr. Banks is saying. Mr. Banks is more subliminal in songs, but he's a lot less subliminal here. He says, I haven't been hearing those slide for Vaughn comments, have you? You've been hearing them? I wonder why. It must be something in the water, huh? You can cut the awkward shes.
Starting point is 00:10:22 shock that is with a knife. And in that case, it wasn't already absolutely clear. It was admitting to his involvement in murder of Saviah Robinson, admitting that he had part in silencing trolls and critics who were posing incessantly telling him to Sliver Vaughn. And if that wasn't even clear, there must be something in the water, or, uh, we hear, though, we differ in the rack. What is the rack got to do with Slive Favon?
Starting point is 00:10:46 You heard testimony from Cody Burke? Okay, so they're reading what we already read. let's see the new stuff so this is we already read this okay everything here we read this okay we didn't read this part they put another part of transcript
Starting point is 00:11:04 they says after characterizing the snippet as a brazen confession to murder spurred by rage over Takashi 69 and calls to slide for Vaughn the government goes on to dismiss the important of context suggesting to the juries that they may not base a
Starting point is 00:11:18 verdict on lack of evidence contrary to the law let's set murder aside for a second okay let's talk about marriage a spouse says to the other spouse I have to work late tonight I'll be back at midnight spouse leaves spouse comes home we'll make it a husband he goes straight through the bathroom leaves the phone on the counter the wife looks at phone notification comes up baby has so much fun tonight I love you can't wait until you're done with your marriage husband comes back wife says what the hell is this are you cheating on me husband says oh the context you need the context you haven't seen the whole text message straight
Starting point is 00:11:51 does she need to see the whole text message string and you have the text message strings? You don't need the text and you don't have text messages in isolation. It's clear and obvious. The only thing they say is, oh, there's other stuff out there. You never know. Your verdict is based on evidence, now on speculation, not on fanciful speculation, and the evidence is clear. So that's what the prosecution has said. Here's the argument.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Okay? Here's the argument. The decision whether to allow the reopening of a criminal case after the close of evidence lies within the sound discretion of the trial court. The Ninth Circuit recognizes the timing of a prosecutor's improper remarks during closing rebuttals is a critical factor in evaluating prejudice. Presenting improper misleading material at the very end of the trial
Starting point is 00:12:40 magnifies its prejudicial effect because the statements are the freshest in the mind of the jury when it retires to deliberate. Under this analysis, the risk of inflammatory improper improper statements will influence the jury is heightened and when it's delivered during the rebuttal closing arguments rather than early in the proceeding. Observing that the improper prosecutorial comment in a closing rebuttal was particularly problematic because it was the last argument the jury heard before going into the jury room,
Starting point is 00:13:06 the increasing, thus increasing the risk that the inflammatory statements would have been improperly influenced the jurors. Given the contents and remaining the remainder of the Dijackenomics podcast, the prosecution's argument and rebuttal closing were in deal. deed misleading. As additional proposed snippets made clear, Mr. Banks' statements to Dij academics was not a brazen confession that he murdered Mr. Robinson or that Takashi 6-9 got to his head. Quite the opposite. And D.J. academics respond to those statements were not a recognition that he knows what Mr. Banks is saying. The government did not call him. By the way, hold on here.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Chat. I'm not. Chat. I told you. Chat. Hey, it just is what. what it is. In fact, since the prosecutor's rebuttal, DJ academics has publicly denied. I have. The government characterization of a state of mind. Yo, Morse, my nigger, I'm testifying. I swear, I tell the truth, the whole truth of nothing but the truth, swear me in. Look at the podcaster's eyes. He knows what you know. You could cut the awkward shock with a knife. I don't know nothing. What are you talking about? Nigget, that was a script. That was a script. That was a script. That was a script. Put this in the appeal.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I got to tell everyone the truth. I got to tell the truth. I act surprised, but hey, put this in the appeal. Just to let you know, I'm sorry. Sorry, Morris, you could have asked me. That was a script. That was a script. That was a script.
Starting point is 00:14:39 That was scripted. Yeah, Smirkman told me we're playing around on the stuff. What the fuck are you talking about? This shit is all cap. I played into it, you know? Oh, shit, I'm shocked. Listen, we know. we know how to promote.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I'm the biggest music promoter in the game. I'm number one in promoting music. Smirk, you had an album coming out. That's it. What the fuck are y'all talking about? Talking about, look at the podcaster's eyes. He knows what you know.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Nigger, I don't know shit. I'm promoting an album. What are these guys talking about? What are they talking about? No, no. Me and Smirk, we rehearsed this. You see, if the fed did their homework, they would have hit me up and be like,
Starting point is 00:15:18 oh, what's up with the interview? I'd have been like, oh, we were just playing. I'm disheartened that the prosecutor really trying to look on my face. That's a troll. That's a troll. You know, like, again, I just want to be here standing and telling the truth. I don't want to be involved in the prosecutorial, you know, misrepresentation, especially of my content, trying to put a man away for life.
Starting point is 00:15:51 If you've ever been around Smirk, super jovial, he's a funny guy, he's a slick commenter. we had a great interview. We're talking tongue in cheek the whole time, and I look up and they're now trying to use my interview. They didn't even ask me for context. Hey, what did you think? The prosecutor's in court saying he knows what my face said. The government did not call academics as a witness.
Starting point is 00:16:21 They didn't. If they were going to speak to my state of mind, and I do agree, if you're going to speak to my state of mind, ask me to come in as a witness. I would have came in as a witness. said, hey, listen, yeah, I did an interview with Dirk. Yeah, of course I'm familiar with his career. What did I feel at this particular moment?
Starting point is 00:16:44 Not what you just said. Not what you just said. The government did not call academics as a witness. It never even attempted to interview academics. It is improper for the prosecutor to assert what is in his mind, especially when the remainder of the interview makes it clear that a reasonable juror could have understood Mr. Bank's statement was not a.
Starting point is 00:17:07 a brazen confession. And again, for anybody who think he might be a joker, I did not sit there in Dirk's face and thought he just confessed the murder. Like, the prosecutor just like, wowed it out with that one. Like, what the hell? By the way, you know, thank you to Drew Finland, Brian Steele, Chrissy O'Connor, Marissa Goldberg. I agree with this motion and I hope it's successful.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Again, once again, I want to make it unequivocally clear for the record. You know, with all due respect to the prosecutor, to assume what my facial expression in a piece of content meant, I was not interrogating, Dirk. We were having a conversation that preempted promoting his album. Was he down to talk about many different subjects? Of course, in a jovial, fun way that could entice people to tune in, which ultimately would promote the album.
Starting point is 00:18:19 For you guys to take a look that I have and say that was clear understanding that he admitted to murder, I think that was rather ludicrous. And again, you know, I respect the justice system. And, of course, you know, I do respect the prosecutors as well. If you're going to try to do a slam dunk with my content, you guys could have asked me about my interpretation. Hey, Act, did you feel like he just admitted to murder?
Starting point is 00:18:51 No, I don't think so. I think that's an appropriate move. I don't know if this would be a move that works. We are kind of late in the game. But I will tell you, this is probably going to be a fight on many appellate circuits down the line. Again, obviously, I'm not eager to jump in any court process. I've been, I like being a nice civilian. doing my job, being the greatest media person
Starting point is 00:19:24 I have all time. However, you know, again, and to Mr. Morse, I know you're a fan and a student of hip hop as well. You're the person who suggested Jay-Z 99 problems the second verse, which, you know, it was a good pick to, you know, have a scholarly legal breakdown.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I know you like hip-hop. I love hip-hop, too. To unfairly paint smirking that light using this interview and try to use it as a slam dunk when they ask multiple times throughout the process. Hey, could we just submit another part that goes contrary into the part you're trying to use? I've seen the part that they were trying to use. I agree with that. The part they wanted to use was to say, hey, listen, I don't take six nine serious. He's a troll. Just again, finally to Mr. Morris, It's, you know, as much as I do believe that people could, I admit, people could admit to crimes in their raps or in other things. But it's usually when these things are very clear and it's actually backed by something where, you know, a reasonable assumption could be made.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I'm alive and I'm able and I'm willing to tell you in the entire court in the world, I did not think dirt admitted murder to me. I'm not a detective I'm a content creator my job was to get some of the best content and I thought I did it's a sad case you guys are trying to weaponize
Starting point is 00:21:12 anything from that interview or not allowing him to use parts that would make himself look favorable all right hopefully um this works but yeah it kind of fucks up a lot of things
Starting point is 00:21:24 I don't know if a curative um instruction would work like you guys used my interview and my facial expression as a slam dunk to say Dirk admitted to murder? Huh? And now one person said, Hey, Eric, what?
Starting point is 00:21:54 They don't even have it on audio or video where I'm like, yeah, that was the time. I thought that. I've spoken about that interview many times. Of none I've ever said, oh, yeah, the look on my face there was because I knew Dirk just admitted to murder. I've never said that. I don't know where the prosecutor got that.
Starting point is 00:22:17 from. So hopefully this motion is successful. Perhaps this is the emergency situation. They're trying to like, you know, pitch this because again, you want this to be somewhat curative before the jury comes back with a verdict and they may have weighed that last rebuttal so heavily that they're like, fuck, right? We rather deal with it now instead of an appeal. Okay. All right. Give me a second here. I'm just, you know, okay, is it that? Do the thing right there. It's crazy. All right, y'all.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Any more updates? That was an emergency filing. Everyone's camped out. Everyone is camped out. Little Dirk defense has renewed their request to add additional portions of the Dirk statements, academics from Off-the-Record podcast and the new filing. So, Little Dirk mom has been sitting outside of the question.
Starting point is 00:24:07 courtroom since this morning and she's awaiting the verdict so the mom is sitting outside of the courtroom we're on lunch break that was about an hour ago the court doors are closed for the audience as attorneys wait if jurors come back with question all right check out cousin tino's tweet cousin tino okay okay's court hearing okay i was in k i was in court all day today i think it went really well based off of racial expressions, the jury. I think they really like what the defense have to say. Prosecution, they did a solid job too, but I think there's a lot of reasonable doubt, man.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I'm just being honest, no bias. There's a lot of bias people out here, but I'm just being real. What's one reasonable doubt thing that you feel like it stuck out to you today? Something that stuck out. The prosecution still couldn't land on anything concrete, though.
Starting point is 00:25:24 That's all it is. Yeah. For a life sentence, you need something concrete. That's real, that's real. It's all you're saying, bro. I'm just being real. Okay, okay. So how can people tap in with you, man?
Starting point is 00:25:34 You've been here supporting every day, man, for dirt, man. I'm not here for myself. I'm here for just to support, man. And you said he helped change their life, right? Yeah, he did. Man, that's what's up, brother? 100%. This little dirt fan has shown up every single day for the trial.
Starting point is 00:25:49 And he's been super supportive of Lil Durk. He said that Little Dirk helped save this. Okay. day 14 of the little dirt trial man today is the possible verdict day we might get a verdict today that is either going to bring some cheers or going to bring some tears it's one of them days jury's going to be deliberating in just a few moments they all arriving 830 that's the time it starts today is one of those days man and i got to let you know this too man i've really realized by sitting in these trials that prosecution don't really care about finding the truth all they care of
Starting point is 00:26:26 about is winning. I've been sent multiple trials and I've just been seeing like they never come with a complete real story that sounds like something that really took place. They come with whatever they can piece together to make it sound believable so they can just get their W versus whoever they going against. That's just how I feel, man, because like it's a lot of inconsistencies in the story that they tried to put up there today over the last couple weeks to try to say Dirk was involved in all of this and other people was involved with all that. It just don't make no sense. Like the whole issue with Jim giving the, uh, the police officers, a note talking about he amended to three murders when he just got brought in for a gun charge. Like, I don't, I never met a
Starting point is 00:27:04 person in my life. That was kind of spooky. That is kind of spooky. We got to be honest. Buffering? How are you buffering? Offer just being caught with a gun. That don't make no sense. That's the hell we buffering. It don't make no sense to me. I don't know if it makes sense to y'all, but it don't make sense to me that a person would just automatically admit out of nowhere and slide a note to a police officer and say, I know about murders. No. And then amidst three bodies. I don't know if that's real.
Starting point is 00:27:52 That don't sound real to me. That sounds something that they made up to make it seem like he came to them. They didn't come to him. That's what it sounds like to me. It sounds like a made up. A lot of it sounds made up. A lot of his story sounds made up. The whole him being in the car early in the morning.
Starting point is 00:28:05 7 a.m. on August 19th with school not in session. Sorry for the echo. Sorry for the echo. With his wife and his kid claiming that he was taking the kid to school, I believe. That don't sound real. That's a lot of inconsistencies in this story. A lot. I don't want to go on too long, but hey,
Starting point is 00:28:24 they got five counts they're judging on today. The jury is. Stalking, conspiracy, a stalking, Crono Rondo, stalking leading to a murder, which is the death of a little Pob, aka Saviard Robinson, the interstate commerce charges where they was using allegedly phones and planes and everything to like basically stalk these people. It's some charges that
Starting point is 00:28:50 they face them. That's kind of like tough because with the stocking charges, the stock of charges go back all the way back to November 6th, 2020 when the night when King Vond died. They don't start the week of the stuff that happened with Lopop. They start all the way back in 2020. So it's going to be tough with that one. I'm going to let you know about it's going to be tough all the way back to 2020 so if there's any evidence basically showing that he was stalking roundo rondo since november 6th 20 when king vaughn died that's going to be a tough one i want to go in death with y'all but i'm already at the leave it i think for this time this mother i swear i'm three minutes four minutes be going by so quick god dang all right all right all right it's a lot going on man
Starting point is 00:29:37 chat i'm here covering the case i didn't know i was going to be a part of the case uh apparently statement from yesterday has now turned into emotion. We're sticking by it. Again, I'm just being honest. We don't know about no murders, man. It's like, yo, yo, y'all got OTF jammy the bull. Y'all got Vonny Brascoe and y'all got flaka, bro. Academics is no help for y'all.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I'm sorry, man. Like, y'all got you out, y'all three cooperators, man. The three musk snitches. Like, y'all got them already. Y'all don't need to bring my interview up in this junk. Or Chari, you know? Anyway, it is going down. By the way, say son of Breezy, he did post.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Says, all personal issues aside free schmirk. He's an innocent man. I wholeheartedly hope he come from under that shit. 600. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Mimo. He says, he posts jam and he says snitch K. Hmm. A lot of opinions, a lot of opinions that's going down right now.
Starting point is 00:31:01 A lot of opinions. I would love to see if there's any motion on, you know, any motion on that motion, well, not any motion on the motion, any action on that motion. I do hope there is some type of update, hopefully positive. Again, I want to make it very clear. the prosecutor made a good portion of their case, my interview with Dirk. If they were going to take interpretations of Dirk's demeanor, of certain things that were unspoken,
Starting point is 00:31:53 of what the energy, the feel, or what I felt during the interview at any time, they could have asked me I am not against the legal process I am not against the court process we all want justice but to assume that a look on my face means I just
Starting point is 00:32:18 heard a confession it's really it's beyond me and especially being the last thing the jury heard okay right let me see anything else going on the heck is this?
Starting point is 00:32:48 I thought it was a walk-up, flogging for a second. All right, all right, man. Now, the clip that the defense wanted to get in was this clip. They denied this clip. Remember, the clip they used was when I said, what do you think about that slide for Vaughn stuff? And he says, slide for Vaughn, he's like, man, I don't really see them comments no more.
Starting point is 00:33:14 And I was like, he's like, do you be seeing them? And I'm like, and he's like, must be something in the water. And he's like, we different in Iraq. They used that to say that was an admission of murder. And basically my eyes looking all over the place was my understanding that I was getting an omission of murder. This is the clip that Dirk wanted to put in the case that they denied. I'm glad you say that because I felt that was in a very tough position.
Starting point is 00:33:50 And I'm going to expound him. on this. I was in a tough position with the 6-9 thing. Six-nine with somebody who, you know, he showed me a lot of love, especially early on during his career. He happened to get beef with everybody in the game. But I felt like with you and him, and especially of especially, Von passed away, he got personal.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And I just remember, like, even thinking, I'm like, I understand playing the media side of you trying to be neutral. Like, if you said anything, I'm opposed it. If he said anything, I'm opposed it. No, I just don't take him serious. But there was moments. I had a conversation with him. It's a nigga like that.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Like, I don't take, I don't take serious. The blonde stuff, I had a conversation with him. I said, listen. See, they're going to do that. They're going to throw. It's called clickbait. But, you know, everybody going to talk shit. Everybody wants to see her records.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Everybody want a name. Everybody wants to stay pop. How did you feel during that? Because I felt conflicted. I never gave a fuck. I never ever gave a fuck. Even when people are like the disrespecting, that's your,
Starting point is 00:35:04 that's like your bro, bro. You know what I mean? So like... But it's like, what I'm gonna do? You think I'm gonna hop on there and tell you, I'm gonna kill you. Then I'm doing an interview. When I catch you, I'm knocking you the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You already know that's happening. So it's like, I play my game. I just sit back, watch. That part is important. Dirk is admitting that he's doing his trolling in his own way. He's saying six-nines trolling. He says, what am I going to do? Say, I'm going to kill you?
Starting point is 00:35:39 No, he says, what I do is I play mind games. That's a way of trolling too. So he's essentially saying, hey, if they're going to troll me, I'm going to troll them. I don't know what's going on. All he just said this about dirt. That's what dirt post. India. Some shoes.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I'm not. Like, I'm not, I'm not falling for that shit. Like, I know it's not. If you're going to say that he admitted to murder because he, he said, do you hear the slide for Vaughn comments? Why not use these comments too right here? I'm not. Like, I'm not falling for that shit. Like, I'm not falling for that shit.
Starting point is 00:36:30 I play mind games. I'm not falling for that shit. I know it's not, like, why don't you engage? because a lot of people engage because that conversation back and for like for example if you tweet somebody who they think you don't like right now and say fuck you when I see you you dead and then you drop a song or you drop an album or you whatever
Starting point is 00:36:55 they're like this is the biggest gangster because he tweeted like so the internet sometimes feeds into it no the internet when you see him then he did then guess who they're going to come see he admits why would I go troll somebody and then kill them or why would I control somebody about killing them because if they do end up dead they're coming to me so this is exactly the clip that counters the clip they used so let's be very clear i want to listen
Starting point is 00:37:24 i'm not you know i'm here doing journalism i do like dirk as a musician i hope he's an innocent guy but i am not his defense attorney i am on the side of truth and justice that's it you do the time you do the crime you do the time And I love Dirk and I love his music, but I want the process to be true. The point is this, we shouldn't be trying to use sneaky things trying to get people because he's, you know, the government has coveted Dirk for a long time. If you couldn't make your case about Dirk supposedly admitting to organizing a plot without using an interview, I am here.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Ask me. Hey, act, is that what you felt? When he said that, the look on your eyes. What was going through your mind? For Mr. Morse, it, you know, it's regressive if, you know, obviously everyone doesn't even like the idea that hip-hop music and lyrics could be weaponized. I understand that sometimes maybe somebody raps about something that's actually true. But to use an interview, I think it leads to a, goes down a very deep, dark hole.
Starting point is 00:38:45 especially when you're adding context to the interview. And it goes back to what Drew Finland said. A lot of the investigators took their opinion and they just look for facts to fit those things rather than looking for the truth. To assign a feeling, a statement, a thought to an interview. And it's not like I'm hiding. It's not like I went missing.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I'm the biggest name in media. That's 60,000 people watching me. You could have just said, hey, academics, because we just cleared this up. You'd have got it cleared up. I wouldn't have done. I would have dodged. It's nothing to hide. So to assume is completely irresponsible.
Starting point is 00:39:32 And, you know, Mr. Morris, I'm a little bit disappointed because you seem like you're not someone who wants to demonize hip hop. You're the one who suggested Jay-Z-99 problems in second verse. So it doesn't seem like you hate it. hip-hop. Seems like maybe you even have somewhat of an understanding of it. But to use the media that's associated with it, it's nasty work, okay?
Starting point is 00:39:53 I'm going to keep saying that. Okay, and whether this appeal or not appeal, but this motion goes anywhere, I'm going to continue double down on that because, yeah, please don't take my interview and be like, oh yeah, that's what he thought. Everybody looking at it, like,
Starting point is 00:40:20 internet, I'm going to say this, just get this popping. I'm like, I real life trying to stay out the way because it's like the people behind me, the knowledge I got behind me, the leaders I got behind me. I try not to get into it with people. I'm trying to turn all the hate to love. Okay. Look like the motion was entered into court.
Starting point is 00:40:52 All right, guys. So we've got a little update. Everybody is waiting for the jury to deliberate. We're waiting for the result. We're waiting for the verdict. But what has just gone on is apparently Dirk's team have filed an emergency motion. They're basically trying to get that DJ. Academics interview back in. Now, I'm not sure how well this is going to go down with the judge,
Starting point is 00:41:09 because I believe he's been asked a couple of times if they could include this extra segment. He denied it before. He's not really known for going back on his decisions as far as the decisions that we've seen in this so far. But the one thing that might change everything is the fact that DG academics has been on social media today, basically saying that the whole interview that he did with Lil Durk that was brought up numerous times during the trial was scripted. He was saying it's a whole script. We will plan this out. He's trying to free Dirk. Here's the problem with that. I think it's a little...
Starting point is 00:41:38 Them eyes do not mean nothing right there. Like, don't do that. See, see? The eyes don't mean nothing. See, see? Don't do that. A little bit late in the game to be trying to introduce this on that basis. I don't think they're necessarily saying that, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:02 academic stream clip that just came out where he's saying it's a script. That academic stream clip definitely is not being introduced as evidence. But this is something that's kind of been brought up. It's been litigated a few times before. I'm not sure the judge is going to go with it. But there was talk earlier that maybe they would file a, emergency motion for this, you know, OTF jam, IG story that was going around over the weekend. That's not surfaced at all. I do wonder if there's any other emergency motions that are going to
Starting point is 00:42:27 be filed last minute to try and help Dirk's team out. But I'm not expecting this to go through. I don't know if this is going to lead to an actual hearing in the courtroom or if it's just going to be dealt with on paper. But I don't think anybody is thinking that the judge is going to go for this. But Little Dirk's team, they're very good team. They're very hardworking team. They fought tooth and nail for Little Dirk's innocence. And they're probably just examining all the moves that they've got left to them at this point. But I'd be very, very surprised if the judge allows this in to be shown to the jury with any kind of instruction this late in the game.
Starting point is 00:42:56 But if that changes, I'll be sure to let you guys know. All right, guys. So we've got a little update. Everybody is waiting for the jury to the... ...board denied. Day 14 at the LaDirk trial. LaDirk just filed an emergency rule 106 motion to admit the complete interview that is three and a half hours with DJ Academic in LaDirt
Starting point is 00:43:38 because the government only submitted one minute of that interview and it was taken out of context. Even DJ academics himself created a video and he was like, I don't know why the government is trying to use my facial expression to prove that Dirt committed this crime.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I don't even think that. And I think that that was very manipulative. And again, remember the government also brought out a voice note that OTF Jam left to Loddirt when he was working for the fans to try to say him up as well. The government pulled some shady stuff on rebuttal closing arguments simply because they knew that the defense would not have an opportunity to actually
Starting point is 00:44:18 review anything that they said. It's only right that the entirety of the DJ academics interview be submitted into evidence. They jumped from all the way from zero seconds to 55 minutes through 57 seconds, nothing but a minute and a half and two minutes. And FBI Agent Burke lied and said he did not watch the entirety of the interview. I think is only right. Mr. Burke. Mr. Burke, you used less than 90 seconds of an interview that I did with Smirk. Academics, Little Dirk.
Starting point is 00:44:58 As you could tell about a title. I wonder why. It says the realest interview ever. How could you charge the man and use the, the interview as a slam dunk when it's labeled the realest interview ever and not watch the whole thing. How could you not watch the whole? It's labeled the realest interview ever. If you claim that he's being real in his songs, if you're claiming he's being real on social media,
Starting point is 00:45:31 he's being real about real stuff, this is the realest interview. But you got to watch the whole thing. It's not two minutes long. Look, you see right here? three hours, 29 minutes, and 46 seconds. You got to watch the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:45:56 The FBI agent said he didn't watch the whole thing. He watched a two-minute clip. He must have got that from Reddit. And if the judge denied, that definitely isn't an appealable issue. Like the video, subscribe to the channel as I come to you. This up, issue board denied. Day 14 at the LaDirk trial.
Starting point is 00:46:12 LaDirk just filed an emergency rule 106. It's all happening, man. We did an interview. watch his interview already. Boy, oh boy, here we go. Hey guys, this is figuring your board certified criminal defense attorney in California today. Walking back to the courthouse because we got word that there is some sort of emergency hearing.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I'm being asked, what does that mean? We don't know what it means yet because we don't know what the subject matter is of the emergency or what the nature of the emergency is. But I will be back with an update as soon as I know the facts. Hey guys. They act like I got the courthouse scaddling. Did I do that? Like, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:47:23 Hey. Just doing my job here, people. I'm just doing my job. I'm just doing my job here, man. Today in California still waiting on the jury. Just wanted to briefly check in and let you know that the jurors started at 8.30 in the morning. They were to meet and report back to the jury deliberation room. They are getting all of the other.
Starting point is 00:47:44 evidence, binders full of documents as well as a flash drive. And then on that flash drive has all of the digital evidence, the videos, the clips, the music. And they're going to have an opportunity to review that. There are 12 of them back there. There are three alternates that are being held in a separate area on standby in case something happens with the 12 jurors during deliberations. Then one of those could be called up to join them. So we will see, we'll be keeping tabs on what's going on if there's a question, if there's a verdict. And I will be doing some more updates throughout the day, other things that I thought of from my notes. Check those out. And we'll be doing a little YouTube video soon. Take care. It's attorney today in California still.
Starting point is 00:48:30 All right. We got a slight update. What is this? Got a slight update. Mimo 600 has shared a video or shared us a DM and his DM seems to be with OTF Jam, Jammy the Bull. This DM I'm going to read in a second. Let me just repost it. Sorry. Here we go. Mimo just posted this. He just posted his DMs with jammy the bull.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Now remember just now, Mimo posted Snitch K with the rat emoji. Okay? It appeared that Jammy the Bull has now responded. to him in DMs. Or never mind, not now. It says October 15th. Oh, so this is old. So I guess this is from last year.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I guess that's when he spoke positively. That's when Mimo spoke positively with OTF Jam or about him on interviews. Jammy the Bull says that was some real nigger shit. Don't know nigger want to speak up. Everyone else want to be yes, man. All that shit came from. that bitch-ass nigga Booney Moe because that nigga fear me and don't want and don't want me in the box but it's cool though.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Vaughn know the truth all that matter. Von know the truth. So let's go back to October last year. Let's see Mimo speaking on OTF Jam. So that's an old message by the way. Mimo 600 OTF Jam. We got to look for something from last year. from last year.
Starting point is 00:50:41 11 months ago. Here we go, here we go. Oh, ah, he's probably talking about this. He's probably talking about this. Let's see. Yes, he's definitely talking about this. This was September 16th and looked like Jamie the Bull saw it
Starting point is 00:50:58 and messaged him October 15th of last year. So let's watch what he supposedly saw. Well, that bring it back to, you know, talking about that was 600, 600 breezes that on no jumper that he didn't even feel like, He didn't feel like jam didn't even snitch. No, I don't think that's facts. That's not facts.
Starting point is 00:51:19 We haven't saw no proof of that yet. They're just saying Jam name because he fresh out and they don't got nobody to blame, y' ain't. First of all, for us to say somebody snitch, that means they're guilty. There's no snitches if they're innocent, gang. They're innocent, yeah. How the f*** did you, what the f***?
Starting point is 00:51:36 How are you going to snitch on me if I ain't do shit? Like for me to sit here and say, he snitched on bro, that mean bro guilty. There's me y'all talking to remember. Remember. All right. I mean, Jam's been getting, you know, the short end of the stick when it comes to this. Jam just got out.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Jam just got out. He looked like a grown-ass goofy jumping around in these young man videos. So they're going to tarnish him. Phone number now. Let, turn, doing whatever they do. And you just fresh out. Like, they don't got nobody to point the finger at. So put it on Jam.
Starting point is 00:52:12 We don't know him like that. We don't know him like that. Some people love phone him. them, but they got relationships with them. Either love or hate. They got something. They built something. They know something.
Starting point is 00:52:21 They paid attention to them. Jam ain't had enough time out of for them to get that type of bond with Jam. So, put it on Jam, or Jam or snitch. Have that shit? Have that shit been put out yet? That it was a wire warrant in the case? Have the documents, the black and white, say that someone will a wire. Oh, we have to check case at that.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Oh, no, wait. Hold on. They say they say they got audio recording. recordings, video recordings. But how, you know, they'll say 100%. They will tell you, why attack? Let me finish. I don't think they're being actually specific.
Starting point is 00:52:57 So remember, this is Mimo when he didn't know if Jam was a snitch. He was defending Jam saying, why y'all keep calling the snitch? We don't have real proof. Jam DMs him like, yo, you are a real nigger for speaking up. And he starts attacking Booney Moe in the DMs. Come to find out, Jam's really the snitch. of who and what, but they are saying that they got audio. But they will tell you 100% that is wiretap.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Audio can mean phone, voice memos, that can mean anything. They'll tell you, you know this 100%. They'll say, yeah, we have wiretap. They just said audio recorders. Do you know Jam? Yes, I do. I don't believe it. 100%.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And they were saying, Jam, baby, Mama got. killed because of that? No, she didn't. She got killed on some fluky shit, some whole other shit. Yeah, I seen that they were trying to say she was like a male lady or something. Yeah. But that wasn't her. Yeah. That was like debunked. Yeah. She ain't had shit to do with nothing. Jam ain't had nothing to do with the wires, none of that shit. So that shit come out in court. The men are innocent. The trial's going to be starting real soon. I think it's scheduled for October. I mean, it probably won't start October. I'm going to sit back with my cup. mom and sit back and watch the shit.
Starting point is 00:54:19 But trials can last forever. Look at Borton and Melly. It could, but, you know, it could. It could go that way, but the block five, too. That was like both. It could go like thug shit too, fast as here. You said who, though? I'm sorry. The old block five,
Starting point is 00:54:36 their shit was quick. Yeah. That's because how they went it. I think they did speedy trial. If I'm not a smoker, I ain't trying to say. But their sentences went forever. That shit happened. How many years ago they still ain't got their sentencing date. Some of their shit...
Starting point is 00:54:50 They just recently delayed the sentencing again. They filed the motion. See? Some of their shit say, move off the last... They want to stand in front of the judge and it's some kind of special motion where you have to stand literally before the judge
Starting point is 00:55:02 and the judge hear you directly what you have to say. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, so they're trying that. They feel like they got to talk to them and let them know what they got going on. Their life kids, all that, don't overkill me. Don't over-crack me.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Like, I got it, you know? So it's kind of mercy-playing? Yeah, basically. If I'm already found guilty, it's mercy plan. Like, look, even if you don't believe me, game, listen to me now. Maybe you take this and feel like I want guilty and you get me less. Okay, I think you guys get the picture. So it looked like, you know, Mimo was kind of mad that he got lied to.
Starting point is 00:55:36 He was lied to. Okay? Chat, looked like, you know, tense times around the courtroom at this point. I'm pretty sure the judge will probably address that motion. It is an emergency motion and they're already there. I'm pretty sure they said this is the second time they filed a motion to have to admit it. The first motion was filed in the middle of the trial. They were denied by the judge and are attempting another motion due to the prosecution using their interview from blah blah.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Okay. All right. Chat, we are 240 is probably another. two to three hours, another two to three hours that this deliberation will take place for the day. Here we go. What was this? Slipping out a courtroom under a heavy go. Okay. Oh boy. Tense times. Tense times. Okay. Breaking news. Breaking news. The jury in Dirk's case has sent the judge a note. Shit. Chat, once again, breaking news. The
Starting point is 00:57:41 jury has sent the judge a note. This is unlike the last moment that we just got told about which was an emergency hearing. Yo, chat, I ain't going on, I've been streaming for this all this time. When I've seen this, I'm like, I've got to go use the bathroom real quick. Not like, not number two, I just got to take a piss. I got to take a piss real quick. Oh, man. Yo, chat, my pussy or nah? I see nothing like, oh, I got to go pee.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Ooh. Tinkle, tinkle. Pause. I'm sorry. Now I do got a piss, though. That liquor is running through me. Pause. Oh, my God. Let me play this. I think we played it yesterday, but this is Cuando Rondo explaining why he dropped his flag after the death of a little pop chat. I got to go pee. I just got to pee. I'm sorry, like, it's going to take two seconds. Hang on a lot. As soon as I seen that note, I'm like, shit, I got to pee.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I'll be back. You said after that that everything you had represented up to that point, you were done with it without getting into any details. Yeah, man, but it didn't even took that situation
Starting point is 00:59:28 for that happened, for me to start feeling like that, man. It always comes down a realization, what you realize. I don't realize certain stuff and it been like, man, I don't care about us. We're from down south.
Starting point is 00:59:46 They just want to use us. They just want to come sit on our spots. They just want to come. I don't know, man. I ain't with none of that shit, my niggins. You know it's crazy. Stanley Tuki Williams resigned from Cruz. You know that?
Starting point is 01:00:09 Yeah. He won a Pulitzer Prize. No, no, no, no. He won a Nobel Peace Prize. A Nobel Peace Prize. My bad. A Nobel Peace Prize because of the books that he wrote. Yeah, Stanley Tuki Williams wrote.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Children books. He won a Nobel Peace Prize. In prison. Man, in prison, bro, I know. Man, bro. Stanley Tuki Williams resigned from Crooks. And he was the biggest. Him and Raymond Lee, Raymond Lee Washington. Yeah, he was one of the founders.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Raymond Lee Washington was the co-founder. Don't boys made Crook to protect the community. the community from crooked cops at first. They was bodybuilders. Right. And, and racists and everything else like that. I just said that I really didn't want to say that. They really was protecting the community from crooked white cops.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Yeah. But I didn't want to say that. No, but that's the truth. It is what it is. Man, like, bro, like, like, like, man, my, bro. Yeah, man. Shout out to Big You, man. That's my homie.
Starting point is 01:01:23 You know, I've had him on the show, real stand-up dude. Yeah, for sure. I'm, but, bro, I'm just saying Stanley Tuckie Williams, he resigned. While I don't see, ain't nobody really running around. Bro, basically what I'm saying is if he did it, it's a lot of more people could do it. Yeah. You could resign. I feel like you could resign, but it should always.
Starting point is 01:01:55 It's one rule about anything you stand on. I don't care if you're alpha, an omega, QDahl. A QDong and Omega is the same, right? I don't care if you a QDong, an Alpha, a Delta, which is the girls, or I don't care if you a Freemason, a Christian, a Muslim, or a Jewish. I don't care if you just claim to screech you off
Starting point is 01:02:22 or whatever. I feel like even when you step away from all that stuff, when you feel like you don't want to be a part of it, it's one rule that's in all that. No disrespect tolerated. So long as there ain't no disrespect and all of it, bray, it don't even matter. And that's just in life with being a human being.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Listen, I support your decision 100%. People grow up. Something that worked as a teenager, doesn't work in your 20s, 30s, and 40s. You know what I noticed? And this came from going to Shade Room comments. Say cheese comments, academics, comments. Okay, my bad.
Starting point is 01:03:06 My bladder got weak. I was like, SWV, man. I got weak at the knees, man. I almost fell onto my knees. Pause. All right. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Okay. Uh, there is slightly an up there is slightly an up Taylor has said she's on the way back to court. There is a lot going on. A lot going on. The jury has sent the judge a note. I don't think there's a verdict. I don't think there's a verdict.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I think they probably have questions. I think these charges are not that easy to understand. I think they're complex. This would be the first note from the jury. I would be flabbergasted if they already came to a verdict. I think they're sending a note to say, hey, what's up? Like, um, you know, there's multiple charges. There's the stalking charge. Then there's conspiracy to stalk. Then there's stalking of Cuando. Then the stalking that results in the death of Savaya. There's murder for hire,
Starting point is 01:04:15 right? Or murdering aid of racketeering, whatever you want to call it, right? And then there is murder, um, then there's conspiracy for murder for hire. It's a lot going on, okay? Oh, man. Tense times. I don't believe that a mistrial will be granted anytime soon. Anytime soon. I think there will be a lot more to go before. That's even a possibility.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Okay? I think there would be a lot more to go. If there's any updates, please let me know. Florida Defense Team, here we go. Well, let's play this. didn't play this in California still waiting on the jury just wanted to briefly check in and let you know that the jurors started at 830 in the morning they were to meet and report back to the jury deliberation room they are getting all of the evidence binders full of documents as well as a flash drive
Starting point is 01:05:34 and then on that flash drive has all of the digital evidence the videos the clips the music and they're going to have an opportunity to review that there are 12 of them back there there are three alternates that are being held in a separate area on standby in case something happens with the 12. We actually listen to this before. I apologize. Okay. All right. We're just kind of waiting here in limbo.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I'm going to try to read some donations real quick. Appreciate you guys. If you guys have donated, your contributions are much appreciated. I apologize. Okay. So let me go through some of this donation real quick. A.Bs. A. B's 86.
Starting point is 01:06:22 His comment is could you explain how the stalking of Cuando-Rondo using a weapon isn't automatically linked to the stalking resulting in the death of Lopop love from London? Well, it was related, but then they got separate charge. So essentially, it was ruled by the judge
Starting point is 01:06:42 that those charges should be separate because there is arguments that could be made that possibly Lopab wasn't being stalked since he happens to not be the target of, there was no intention to stalk him, right? He was, it was known to the, quote, quote, culprous at the time that he was even there. So I think they separated for two reasons. Number one, Cuando did not die.
Starting point is 01:07:08 And the thing with stalking charges, there's levels just like with murder for hire. If you do a murder for hire and no one dies, you're facing up to 10 years, right? If they thwart it before you, you know, the plan even takes off, you're facing 10 years. And that's just you putting money in a hit man's hand and they have everything recorded. Police come in, they bust you, 10 years. Somebody gets badly beaten or they get shot a couple of times. They survive 20, I think 20 or 25. If someone dies is automatic life, okay?
Starting point is 01:07:41 And then, you know, has possible death penalty ramifications depends on how they look at it. So I think they separated the stalking because there is a trumped-up stalking charge that results in death. So they didn't want to address both of them. And by the way, it was also two victims. So they were going to have two counts. But again, it would be argued that you can't try to charge, you know, all these guys with the stalking of Kondo that results in death if he didn't die. Yeah, so if he's not the, you know, the portion that says death is assuming that the person you're stalking ends of dying.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Okay? At least that's from my understanding. I could be wrong with it, okay? G.O. Thank you for the five. He says, my life is nothing without Smirkio. Hopefully your life will be something if he becomes free shortly. I'm not too sure. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Who else? Who else? Thank you guys for becoming members. I appreciate all of you guys. We are waiting for Tyler Hansom. He says, I want Mama Duck. She's so bad. She is so fine.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Well, you guys could, you know, go in. Mama Duck said she was going to the trial. What happened with that? Mama Duck. What happened with that? She says she was going. No, no, that's not. Mama Duck.
Starting point is 01:09:09 FBG. Mama Duck. I don't know. Yahoo search sucks. Mama duck. Shout to top five. I see you calling him, brother. Tense moments right now.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I'm trying to figure out what the hell going on with this shit. I'll hit you back, brother. It's been 17 minutes since the tweet. We're waiting. Okay. I haven't gotten any update yet. Back to all the people who have donated. Thank you guys.
Starting point is 01:10:14 E-Train gaming. Thank you for the 20. He says, I'm a truck driver. And I appreciate this live. I got a long drive ahead of me and I'm locked in. Well, you know, you could be locked in for sure for the next six hours. We're going until midnight, East Coast time for sure. And, you know, you're welcome.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Thank you for, you know, tuning in. Kevin says if your life is nothing without Dirk, you're a real goofy. Nah, come on, man. Like, listen, we love Dirk. For real, loud red, thank you for the tense. Could you explain a hung jury? So technically he has odds of winning by being not guilty or a hung jury versus being guilty. What's your honest opinion on him beating the case?
Starting point is 01:10:54 So this is a, you know, what would consider it in most cases, this is capital, this is like one of them capital offense cases. It's rare that you charge someone. It's same with the Lindsey Graham thing, except I don't think that was in federal court. That wasn't in federal court, right? Not Lindsey Graham, Lindsay Clancy, that's the name. You're going to try that person over again. It's just like YNW. Melly. YN. W. Mellie technically had a hung jury.
Starting point is 01:11:20 And it was the same thing with Lindsay Clancy. supposedly was one juror that said, I'm not voting Y NW. Mellie guilty. Same in the Lindsay Clancy shit. In the opposite, there's one person saying, I'm not saying she's innocent. In those cases, it's a hung jury. And the judge, at least by the statute
Starting point is 01:11:40 where that Lindsay Clancy trial is, after a certain amount of time, they have to rule a mistrial. They could give these kind of curative instructions to try to, you know, see if they could figure out, you know, if they could come to a cohesion and everybody could agree, but after a while they have to go mistrial. Same with Y&W. Melly, it was clear they weren't going to come to an agreement.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Mestrial. Here's the thing. It doesn't mean Y&W. Melly went free. He's clearly been locked up since 2018. They're going to try him again. In this Dirk case, a mistrial would not have him walk free, especially he has another case to go. If anything, it would only complicate things if you ask me if it's a mistrial. A mistrial, I think the government might even try to combine this in his other case
Starting point is 01:12:21 because he's going to have to go to another case regardless. and, you know, maybe they would have more compelling arguments to say, hey, you know, all of these crimes that allegedly were committed are all intermingled. They all fit under this, like, violent crimes, innate a racketeering charges, and maybe that's probably what would happen. But if you believe that a hung jury means that Dirk walks free, that's not happening. It's not happening. Just being honest, okay? Also, you've got to think about certain things. This case went to trial pretty quickly.
Starting point is 01:12:58 It went to trial in 23 months, right? So we're in September. He got arrested October 24. 23 months, reasonably speaking, compared to, like, other situations where people kind of just sit and linger. It's not that long of a case, which, again, if you ask me, wouldn't tell a USA, like, oh, no, why do this again, right? Okay I'm going over a few more Give me one second
Starting point is 01:13:32 All right Okay Should I call whack? Man, I'm kind of nervous Now I want to see what the hell They told me on in court Any update? We could call whack
Starting point is 01:14:03 No updates from Oh, there's a TikTok account That's live outside the courtroom Where is it? Where is it? Oh my God, I just had it I think this is a guy Oh, here he is, sorry We got someone live outside of courtroom, y'all.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Everybody from? Hey. Hey, lifesaver. Here, throw it in my back. Just throw it in the back back. See, sometimes life just works out, man. Shout out to Ryan, man. W. Ryan.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Everybody say W. Ryan. See, they're saying W. W. Ryan. W. Ryan's in the chat, y'all. Hey, we're charging. We're back. We're live and active. W. Ryan. Lock up smirk. Canesia Mac. Why would you say that?
Starting point is 01:15:08 Canesia Mac. Shout out to Kenesia. Sometimes you read the chat. They set the, keep setting these. Watch it. Here, here, watch this. Watch this, watch this. Here, take this away. I don't want my track to hear it. That's in and around the courtroom, y'all.
Starting point is 01:15:34 All right, y'all, we're over here. We're going to get y'all up close look. Hey, we have Big Dirk walking in. Big Dirk's walking into the chat. Oh, sir. How's you going? going sir see you good yes sir i just it's a hot day i was working the father is now returned so the father is now returned to the courtroom so it looked like something is happening you've
Starting point is 01:16:10 probably what happened all right y'all you just got some very soon for footage there i know that's crazy timing but here man look so look i did a i did a poll uh blue versus blue is not guilty pink is guilty and watch nine seconds come on y'all send in the blues man blues for the not guilty how do they do that they do this or they gift so look they gifted blue one blue one how much is blue win by eight okay oh someone said red too though i mean there's a few people that's that are gonna say that all see that y'all see that y'all we just saw an exclusive you only do two poles a day though so you should wait because it might be more than Alright, all you all see that exclusive footage with Big Dirk y'all blues in the chat for not not in not guilty y'all
Starting point is 01:17:08 Let's get some blues in the chat for not guilty Come on man, I wasn't even holding the camera and we still got the Ooh somebody just somebody just gosh He was just he was just yeah he fell off this That guy just fell hard on his on his skateboard. Geez. I'm surprised he's not.
Starting point is 01:17:36 I'm surprised he's not. I'm surprised he didn't like nlimp away. There's always something going on outside the courthouse, y'all. Y'all seen it. We got the exclusive. So Big Dirk just got here. He hasn't been here all day. Mama Dirk is here.
Starting point is 01:18:08 So we just saw Big Dirk. So I think that means. We just got the update on the note. It said the note requested all. evidence in digital form. Okay? So the note is not about a verdict. The note is not about a verdict, y'all.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Calm down. The note is requesting all of the evidence in digital form. Hmm. Interesting. Okay. So that's the update. Hey, shout out to the zombie emoji for oldies.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Nick for the Rose, Alexander for the Rose. Appreciate y'all. We got DC Baby Draco getting that. content. Y'all know who I'm off the weekday. Cash rate a fish off the fucking good. But I'm trying to understand who gave this Niggia FBI jam the motherfuckin'all fucking phone.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Did y'all sneakin' into Labor Day potato salads? I ain't got shit to say y'all. Free Dirk, y'all. This is about to be the moment of truth. Oh my gosh. So what is going on? Niggins is jealous. No, I'm joking.
Starting point is 01:19:45 No, Dirk is come home. I don't care for nobody's saying. But I don't think we got to worry about whether he come home. Here or not today. He doesn't know. about to get flown back to Chicago because he already got a murder case waiting on him because they already knew this shit wasn't going to stick in court you know there's no murder for hire there's nothing they they don't have nothing on this man even the people who was standing on a stand
Starting point is 01:20:04 with honest man they said nice things about him oh he took care of me oh he got me clothes when i got out out of jail nobody assassinated his character sometimes when you up in the courtroom they try to say oh he's a bad man he don't take care of his skin that beehive had little dirks phone nothing came out about him cheating you know that's something that they can use to get him he's not an honest man He cheats on India or they can just say anything. Oh, he's an angry man. The Dirk, they never say he did drugs. None of the people who was testifying to get him say he did drugs.
Starting point is 01:20:31 So that means his intelligence, like on a day-to-day basis, is not impaired by any drugs or anything. Dirk's a good guy. As a juror, I'm not a juror, but if I was, that would play a part in my decision. And everything that they got going on, they just, it was a witch hunt. It was a witch honey. He's a good person, guys. So he coming home. The jury is going to see it. I know the jury is going to see it. So you said a note was passed to the judge right now, right? Yes, God. What time is it? What time is it? It's, um, 3.05. And we just seen Big Dirk rush up in there. So we're waiting for India. Just missed him. Yeah, you just missed me. We see India today. It's in. It's in for sure. But they said that if they do read the, um, get the note from the jury, they did say that they would call the family to let the family.
Starting point is 01:21:20 know so they can get up here and come see it so we're just waiting y'all's a waiting game how long you think we're gonna wait you fuck so it's a witch hunt and a waiting game and then bonnie this nigger thought if he gave them dirt he getting out nigger fuck you fuck your wife nigger y'all weird y'all weird you're not going home to your wife and the rinked money get the fuck out of here y'all heard it y'all heard it so we just saw a big dirt up so we might see India pull up the news stations are here okay finally the press is there or mainstream press shout out to mr. stay down stay down to come up shout out to I missed it but shout out to everybody that sent the gold
Starting point is 01:22:13 chains man I seen Cooley sent four gold chains shout out to Cooley W Cooley y'all a shout out to Cooley man I appreciate that Canisia M of course, Jaden, of course. But shout out to Kugi, man. You're a real one. Shout out to Palestine 9655. Man, Palestine 9655. I've been showing love for like the last few lives.
Starting point is 01:22:36 It's been a minute. Once again, we're live out of the courtroom. Apparently they have given a note. The note seems to have a request by the jury to get all the evidence in digital form. We could be here for a while, y'all. We could be here for a while. it appeared that they're still looking at the evidence, no inclination on whether they have leaned one way or the other.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Because I know those, you know, I mean that gold chain, appreciate that. Shout out to Sosley Yelo for the donuts. Hey, while everybody's here, you know, I don't like to do self-promo a lot, but you know what I mean? It is, it is my birthday tomorrow. If anybody wants to send me a little cake slice, you know, I'll appreciate it. If not, it's all good.
Starting point is 01:23:34 I will still be here, you know what I mean? For the, if the, if the, if the verdict isn't decided today, I will be here tomorrow. So, you know what I mean? Appreciate y'all. Appreciate y'all. Appreciate y'all. Appreciate y'all.
Starting point is 01:23:48 It's Betty, Matthew, TV, SETI, Too Funny, Jackie, Sarah. Appreciate y'all, Nurse Alexis. Appreciate John Marie. Maria Janice. Roast. Yeah, if we have any updates, please. let me know. Look like they're standing outside the front of that
Starting point is 01:24:05 courthouse. We're going to see if you know, apparently they gave notice to the family for them to pull up. We'll see if India arrives shortly. Apparently, she must have not walked in unless there's another entrance.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Unless there's another entrance. They'll look nervous. Let me see if we could get any update from Michael Blackshire. Since they're calling people back to the courtroom, The judge might deal with that motion now, actually. So we might deal with that motion immediately. By the way, this was yesterday, Brian Steele walking out court.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Mr. Steele, Gerald Miller of the Supreme Team, discussed as a case after the end of closing statements yesterday. It's himself and don't reprive on other people. I'm warranted. It's great. Propositoris. It's a loose their family behind him of my dog. really man, no.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Thank you for your support, brother. Yeah, I'm a little, I'm a little tied, man. You all know, man. And self and other people. I'm warrant. It's great. For P. Dirk update, the academics podcast, the snippet that was played for the jury has taken
Starting point is 01:26:46 center stage. Now, initially, when the judge let them play that and then didn't let the defense give you other snippets, I thought the judge was making a very foolish decision. Let them have it. Let them play two, three more minutes of the point. podcast. What time does it take? This is a murder for hire, life without the possibility of parole. Now, after what just happened in closing where the defense, where the prosecution made that podcast snippet the centerpiece of their closing argument, the defense has gone and filed an
Starting point is 01:27:15 emergency motion telling the judge, hey, surely now, Judge, you're going to let us play the other snippets. And if the judge doesn't let them do it, you're just inviting appeals for no reason. And here's the law, here's the breakdown. So the law, the case is closed. All the evidence is in. However, the law lets you reopen a case, particularly where something happens on closing that necessitates new evidence. At closing, the government makes this the centerpiece of their argument.
Starting point is 01:27:44 They say, look, in this podcast, he admits, he confesses. And the podcaster, you could see it on his face. He can't even look the guy in the eye when they go through the exchange. And the podcaster says, oh, those sly for Vonnegut. comments they get to you and then Dirk says oh for some strange reason I just don't be seeing them no more must be something in the water we differ in the rack okay so so you played that and then you made that the centerpiece of your closing and you're not going to let the defense play the other parts of the podcast two three minutes where he says oh you know I don't pay attention to the trolls
Starting point is 01:28:21 six nine doesn't get to me I got business to handle there's a team behind me we don't involve with the beefs. It's two minutes. It's two minutes and it is the context for the entire podcast and even more. Academics has now gone public saying this was a scripted podcast. We discussed how, hey, there's this storyline out there. A lot of people are talking about it. Let's go up. We'll go viral off it. And now you have the other, that man was not a witness in this case. He could have been interviewed, interrogated. That would have been awful for Dirk. I think if academics takes the stand and starts telling you everything that he's knows and everything that he's said. That being said in the context of this case where that one snippet was played and the...
Starting point is 01:29:03 I don't know nothing. I don't know nothing. I don't know nothing, bro. I don't know nothing, bro. Nick, if you think Dirk is discussing murder with pussy-ass academics, nigga, come on, me. You're wrong, man. Come on, bro. Like, Dirk not no goofy, bro.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Like, come on, bro. Why would you discuss a murder with me, bro? Like, yo. Believe in that Dirk would discuss a murder with me, it's like, believing that Dirk would put a goofy like Vani in charge of the murder, bro. Come on, bro. Come on, bro. Come on, breath. Other snippets were not allowed. And then it became the centerpiece of the prosecution's closing. The judge, we don't do the cloud chasing stuff here. I don't come on here and say, oh, my God,
Starting point is 01:29:47 free Dirk. Oh, my God. The prosecution cooked Dirk. But this demands more. What is the judge doing? Let them play two, three minutes. of the podcast. The agent said, I didn't see the whole thing. Academics, the interviewer has now said it's scripted. How can you put somebody up on life without the possibility of parole and not play the other snippet from the podcast? Little Dirk update. I'm very excited, okay? I get to sit by a real attorney, okay? And I want to ask her one question, because I know how I felt about yesterday, but from your perspective, how did yesterday end? Was it good for the defense or the prosecution? That's the thing. It was good for both. It really was. It's one of those things like where you
Starting point is 01:31:11 watch the shows and you see, oh, they show this side and you think, yeah, I'm definitely with them. And then all of a sudden they sold the other thing. I'm like, oh, I don't know. So I thought the defense, like, they killed it with their closing. They really did. And it left me thinking there's so much doubt. So much doubt. Right. Right. But then the problem. prosecutor came. And I was like, and it was bad. And you know it's bad when I'm thinking as a defense attorney, I wish I could get back up there. I'm like, I know they're thinking.
Starting point is 01:31:38 I was like, what? He was saying some things that you're like, wait, I got something and they tried to object. Yeah, yeah. Judge wasn't having that. So then it's like, is it enough? Is it enough what the defense said? Are they going to sit with that? Or is what this guy came in and just blew it up?
Starting point is 01:31:54 I'm going to be. That's my takeaway, too. The rebuttal was just like, I don't know. I'm doubting it anymore because I did have some doubt at first but but I will say Brian still part where he said if you have to say but then that meaning it's not guilty so that kind of stuck in my head so if I was on the jury I would still think about that but that rebuttal especially like yeah we know they're they're killers but they're his killers I was like oh my god right right yes you don't know you don't know what they with it but I will say they're still they're still
Starting point is 01:32:29 back there. Oh yeah. So they're still back there and that tells me even as a defense that I know I did my job if they're still thinking. They're still thinking. So because otherwise it'd be a slam dunk. It would have been no brainer. We only need it an hour. They're all guilty. You know, it's over. So they did their job. They gave them something to say, but both people, both sides did their job. And now we just have to wait and see who's fighting in there. And we are waiting. I'm talking. I've been doing content all day. She even has to do content. So I just want to say thank you to take the sign to answer that question But we got a lot of work to do
Starting point is 01:33:01 Yep I'm very excited, okay? I get to sit by all right Y'all is just spamming everything Says SETI just posted Somebody said TMZ I know you're lying Clearly TMZ even though they're based in LA
Starting point is 01:33:23 Has been noticeably absent from this case Like they don't give a damn about no dirk I'm not gonna lie to you there is no verdict in we would have known said he live no what are y'all talking about they said it's because he's not no j z duh i love kicking a nigger when he's down man huh yeah i love that uh the update that i got earlier was from megan cunif actually she's the one who she said the note requested all the evidence in digital form so it looked like she had gotten the uh quick update with that Not too sure if they're listening to the motion that was filed by Dirk's team as an emergency motion,
Starting point is 01:34:35 motion to include more of the podcast or give a curative instruction by the jury. And they're trying to get this done before a verdict is reached. Either way, SETI posted a YouTube video. When? Read this transcript slash motion that just went in. Let's go. Let's already get into it. This is a United States.
Starting point is 01:35:18 United States District Court, Central District California, jerked bank's renewal of his request regarding Rule 106 in light of closing argument. See, and I told you guys, the feds did too much jumping around and acting like this was hip-hop parade. Defended Durk Bank's to his attorneys Drew Fenland, Mercer Goldberg, Brian Stilling, Christi O'Connor. Here's why I filed this application renewing his request to admit additional portions of Mr. Bank statements to DJ academics. Filed at docket entry, 628, in light of the government's misleading arguments in its rebuttal closing. In the alternative, Mr. Banks requests a curative instruction directing the jury's
Starting point is 01:35:52 attention to the government's arguments and reminding the jury that it is verdict may be based on the government's failure to bring a complete evidence of Mr. Banks' statement in the interview. Mr. Banks' request an immediate hearing on a ruling on this request so that the corrective action may be taken before the jury reaches a verdict. This motion is based upon the attached memorandum of points and authorities, the file and records in this case. In such, further evidence, an argument as the court deems appropriate. The government does not agree to the requested relief. So this got filed today like a hour ago or something like that. Anyways, memorandum of points and authorities. Background on August 31st, 2006, Mr. Banks moved for the admission of additional
Starting point is 01:36:33 portions of his statement to podcaster DJ academics that would have corrected the misrepresent, I mean, the misimpression created by the government's misleading tailored snippets docket number 628 in the proposed portions. Mr. Banks explains that he had, has never taken to Kashi 6'9 seriously and that he has never let the slide for Vond comments get to his head. He also explains that because the professional organization of people around him or behind him, he stays out of beefs like that and that his approach is to turn hate into love. The court denied Mr. Banks in its rebuttal closing, which Mr. Banks, of course, did not have a chance to address the government made arguments that compounded the misleading nature of its misleading tailored snippets. The government argued before Mr. Banks is blaming his team for slide and then the way he had demanded that they slide before he was arrested before this case of 2020. Mr. Banks is interviewed by a podcast named DJ Academics.
Starting point is 01:37:29 This is a person who knew exactly the facts of the death of King Vaughn as well as all the beef that had been ongoing with Cuando Rondo. Remember, this is the interviewer who interviewed the other rapper named 6-9 who was yelling and screaming at the top of his lungs said, slide for Vaughn. This is the person according to Justin Gibson who really pissed off in defending. where it's pissed him off and was really drugged up the slide for Vaughn same podcaster now we are in 2003 the murder's over survive robinson is gone and that podcaster having interviewed six nine seeks to ask mr banks hey what about this slide for vaughan movement and what he says all right like i don't take that man serious the man did not do none of vine the man friends did crown a while i got his ass whoop people there you didn't get beat up huh do you get
Starting point is 01:38:19 Pull up Floyd Maywell. I mean, pull a Vaughn. Oh, yeah. Do you get triggered by the- Beat the shit out of his little ass, man. What are you talking about? You get triggered by the slide for Vaughn comments. Still.
Starting point is 01:38:31 I wonder if people still say. They used to say it, but you also mentioned a song. They'd be like, they'd be seeing Slive for Vaughn. I think they trolling me. Yo, by the way, that song is this fire. I ain't going on. For some reason. I just don't see them comments, no one.
Starting point is 01:38:50 For some odd reason. I don't know. Might be the order. you be in the comments a lot they kind of chilled out a little bit I wonder why we're here though we're different in the wreck
Starting point is 01:39:12 the look on the podcast's face who knows the facts that you know says it all from the moment that Mr. Banks begins responding in that brazen incredible way essentially admitting that he was involved in the murder of Mr. Robertson this podcaster can't even look him in the eye
Starting point is 01:39:31 Mr. Still your honor I'm going to pose an objection to the court the objection is overruled Mr. Morris can't even look him in the eye because he knows what you know. He knows what Mr. Bakes said. Mr. Banks is more subliminal in his songs, but oh, he's a lot less subliminal here. It says, I haven't been hearing those slides for Vond comments, have you? You be hearing them. I wonder why. It must be something in the water. You can cut the awkward shock. And this is literally what he
Starting point is 01:39:58 has said. The shock with a knife. In this case, it wasn't already clear that he was admitting to his involvement in the murder of Xavier Robinson. that he had part in his silencing his trolls and critics who were posted incessantly telling him the slide for Vaughn as if that wasn't clear from the must be something in the water he says here though we different in the rack what is the rack got to do with the slide for von comments chilling out you heard testimony from Cody Burke special agent Cody Burke he told you that Chicago Chicago colloquially or I can't never say this one right colloquially
Starting point is 01:40:36 colloquially is the south side of Chicago specifically or colloquially I don't know why to hell it's colloquially my bad job I don't know why I keep butchering that word but colloquially is how you say the south side of Chicago specifically where mr. banks is from is colloquially referred to as shirac meaning the murder rate in Chicago the south side of Chicago is comparable to the death rate in the war in iraq and shirac the rack is short for shirac so he cited the murder rate in Chicago and he says we different in Iraq. It doesn't get much more clear than that. The boldness, the brazeness is exactly what you saw in the murder of Xavier Robinson to take a machine gun in Beverly Hills at Rush Hour and mow that young man down in front of everybody is the same
Starting point is 01:41:18 brazeness, brashness that you see in this clip from Mr. Banks. And for some reason, he thought he would just get away with saying that. You know, there has been a lot said by the defense. They've gone out of their way to criticize Mr. Banks as an international super-sup. star and he was a prominent rapper, but he ain't JZ, respectfully. A lot of people didn't know the facts of Cuando Rondo and King Vaughn. They didn't know, so he must have thought that he could just go on his podcast and make this incredible statement of responsibility and that that would just fly under the radar. Transcript 169 through 172.
Starting point is 01:41:53 After criticizing this snippet as brazen confession, well, as a brazen confession to murder, spurred by the rage over Takasi 69 and calls outside for Vahn. The government goes on to. dismiss the importance of context, suggesting to the jury that they might, they may not base a verdict on lack of evidence contrary to the law. Let's set murder aside for a second, okay? Let's talk about marriage spouse to other spouse. I have to work late night. I'll be back at midnight. Spouse league. Spouse comes home. We'll make it a husband. He goes straight to the bathroom, leaves his phone on the counter. Wife looks at the phone. Notification comes up.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Baby, I had so much fun tonight. I love you. I can't wait until you are done with your marriage. husband comes back wife says what is this you are cheating on me husband says oh the context you need the context you haven't seen the whole text message straight does she need to see the whole text message string and you have the text message strings you don't have the text in isolation it's clear and obvious the only thing they can say is oh there is other stuff out there you never know i'm glad you say that because i felt that was in a very tough position and i'm gonna expound on this i know uh i was in tough position with the six nine thing six nine was somebody who
Starting point is 01:43:10 you know he showed me a lot of love especially early on during his career he happened to get getting beef with everybody in the game but I felt like with you and him and especially if especially Vaughn passed away got personal and I just remember like even thinking I'm like I understand playing
Starting point is 01:43:31 the media side of you trying to be neutral like if you said anything I'm opposed if he said anything I'm opposed if he said anything I'll post it I just don't take him serious. But those moments, I had a conversation with him. It's a nigga like that. Like, I don't take, I don't take serious.
Starting point is 01:43:47 The blonde stuff, I had a conversation with him. I said, listen. See, they're going to do that. They're going to throw. It's called clickbait. But, you know, everybody going to talk shit. Everybody want to see her records. Everybody want a name.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Everybody want to stay popping. How did you feel during that? Because I felt conflicted. I never gave a fuck. I never ever gave a fuck. Even when people are, like, the disrespect. That's your, that's, it's like your bro, bro. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:44:14 So, like... But it's like, what I'm gonna do? You think I'm gonna be on there until you're gonna kill you. You think I'm gonna do an interview. When I catch you, I'm knocking you to fuck out. You already know what that's happening. So it's like, I play mad game. I just sit back, watch.
Starting point is 01:44:34 I don't know what's going on. All you just said, this about dirt. That's what dirt. post India some shoes I'm not I'm not I'm not
Starting point is 01:44:47 falling for that shit like I know it's not like why don't you engage because a lot of people engage like that because it's because that conversation back and for like for example
Starting point is 01:44:58 if you tweet somebody who they think you don't like right now and say fuck you when I see you you dead and then you drop a song or you drop an album or you whatever
Starting point is 01:45:07 they're like if this is the biggest gangster because he tweeted it. No. Like so the internet sometimes feeds into it. No. Then when you see him, then he did. Then guess who they're going to come see? That's I look at it.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Everybody looking at it like, the internet. I'm gonna say this. Just get this popping. I'm like, I real life trying to stay out the way because it's like the people behind me, the knowledge I got behind me, the leaders I got behind me. I try not to get into it with people.
Starting point is 01:45:38 Like, I'm trying to turn all the hate to love. verdict is to be based on the evidence, not on speculation, not on fanciful speculation, and the evidence is clear. Argument. The decision whether to allow the reopening of a criminal case after the close of evidence lies within the sound discretion of trial court, United States v. Ramirez and United States versus Clem. The court allowed party to introduce letters in the evidence belatedly. The Ninth Circuit recognizes that the timing of a prosecutor's improper remarks during closing rebuttal arguments is a critical.
Starting point is 01:46:11 factor in evaluating prejudice, presenting improper or misleading material at the very end of trial. Magnifies its prejudicial effect because the statements are freshest in the mind of the jury when it retires to deliberate Zepeda versus Velasquez. Under this analysis, the risk of an inflammatory or improper statement will influence the jurors is heightened when it is delivered during the rebuttal closing argument rather than earlier in proceedings. see also United States v. Sanchez, observing that proper or improper prosecutorial comment and a closing rebuttal was particularly problematic because it was the last argument the jury heard before going to the jury room to deliberate, thus increasing the risk that the infamatory statement would improperly influence the jurors. Given the contents of the remainder of the DJ Academics podcast interview, the prosecution argues in its rebuttal closing were indeed misleading as the
Starting point is 01:47:08 additional proposed snippets made clear. Mr. Banks' statements to DJ academics were not a brazen confession that he murdered Mr. Robinson or that Takashi 6-9 got to his head. Quite the opposite. And DJ academics' response to those statements were not a recognition that he knows what Mr. Banks said. The government did not call. In fact, the podcaster, when the prosecutor's rebuttal, DJ academics has publicly denied
Starting point is 01:47:32 the government's characterization of his state of mind. Yo Morris, my N-word. I'm testified. I swear to the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth like this, and swear to me in. Look at the podcast's eyes. He's know what you know. You could cut the awkward shock with a knife. I don't know nothing.
Starting point is 01:47:50 What are you talking about? In word, that was a script. That was a script. Hey, put me in appeal. I got to tell everyone in truth. I got to tell everyone in truth. I asked surprise, hey, I put this in the appeal just to let you know. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:48:05 I'm sorry, Morris. You could have asked me. That was a script. That was a script dramatic effect. That was scripted. Yeah, Smirk Ben told me we've been playing on that shit. What the fuck is you talking about? This shit is all cap.
Starting point is 01:48:17 I played into, you know, oh shit, I'm shocked. Listen, we know how to promote. I'm the biggest promoter in music. I'm the number one promoter of music and hip-hop. Smirk y'all had an album coming out. That is what the fuck y'all is talking about. Talking about, oh, look at these podcasts's eyes. He knows, you know, nigger.
Starting point is 01:48:35 I don't know nothing. I'm promoting the album. What are these guys talking about? These guys are talking about. No, me and Smirk, we have rehearsed this. You see, if the fans did their homework, they would have hit me up and be like, yo, act, yo, what's up with the interview? Oh, we was just playing. I'm disheartened that the prosecutor's really trying to look on my face.
Starting point is 01:48:53 That's a troll. That's a troll. And they showed a clip on that. So DJ academics as a witness, it never even attempted to interview DJ academics. It is improper for the prosecutor to assert what he had in his mind, especially when the remains. The remainder of the interview makes it clear that a reasonable juror could have understood that Mr. Bank's statement was not a brazen confession. Conclusion. Mr. Banks' request that the court reopened the evidence to allow the admission under Rule 106 of the additional portions of the same conversation with DJ academics that the government misleadlingly spliced to its advantage. In the alternative, Mr. Banks request that the court call attention to the government's exhibit and explain that and evaluated whether there is reasonable doubt, the jury may consider the government's failure to provide.
Starting point is 01:49:37 with evidence that the jury believes it needs to be, i.e. the lack of evidence. And so y'all know what's so funny about this stuff is the feds are so brazen. They're so disrespectful to the same ideals and justice that they have that they fought like hell. They even got... Hold on. I don't know why that just paused. Okay. The judge to agree. No, we're going to keep the rest of this crap out.
Starting point is 01:50:13 No, we're not going to do this. No. Sorry, I had to make sure it was recording. My audio voice. I didn't want to put this out no wrong way. So yeah, bro, the fans is full of shit. They've been full of shit. And the way that they are splicing and dicing and shooting and looting and doing all this BS, man, you can tell that that academics interview, they jumped ship.
Starting point is 01:50:32 They actually acted like, oh, yeah, man, we're doing this and we're doing that. Well, what the hell is this and what the hell is that? Well, we're over here talking about, man, listen, bro, listen, listen, we need this to come in. We need this to come in. But we don't want to put the furnace in. They brought in a freaking, and I remember this because it was pretty stupid. They brought in the dog on summary captain super FBI agent and asked him a simple question. This was a three and a half hour interview.
Starting point is 01:51:01 Did you watch all of this shit? Or did you just watch this clip right here? You know what he said? I didn't watch it. So the feds are misleading on purpose. But, you know, some people want to call it out. And when I call it out, I'm a super dirt fan. Well, you know what? And I tell you guys this all the time. So let me make this abundantly clear.
Starting point is 01:51:21 I don't trust the fans. I don't believe in the fans. I don't believe they serve true justice. I don't. When I am looking at certain things that are being said when they say, oh, in December, little dirt got mad and said nobody was sliding for vion and all this shit. And the text thread with duty low. And no disrespect to duty low. And I'm not trying to throw you under the bus. He never says, but duty low, you got his address and you didn't slide or not. no shit like this. Little Dirk was out the loop. There were times where people were trying to get up with
Starting point is 01:51:51 Cuando Rondo and all this shit that happened in freaking September, right? And they brought, that shit happened in September. So how the hell would Dirk know? Y'all just proved the theory that Little Dirt didn't know shit because his people at the time, Mimo went and trod everybody in Savannah, Georgia. There were times where they showed that,
Starting point is 01:52:14 hey, bro, listen, man. they duty low and sign my shoutty they were looking for qurano they were trying to get his location and all this shit and you know some people argue well nash dirk said that people got his low and they ain't doing nothing but if that's the case why didn't he call out duty low specifically he said brad y'all and he said they be at clubs they be doing this they be doing that like go up there and go go scrabble go get it on or go get it popping whatever it is so dirt in his frustration after losing king vion and losing his mind and talking shit and talking reckless on text message But then when y'all see it's time for him to troll
Starting point is 01:52:48 After quandor rondo then trolled him and did the songs and did all this shit When it was time to do all this shit Oh, it wasn't no problem and I'm not disoinguando and no shit like that Because it is what it is But what I will not do what I will not accept from people AKA the feds is bro, y'all bullshit and y'all full of bullshit And y'all know y'all full of bullshit And the reason y'all full of bullshit is because you fought like hell for your closing argument
Starting point is 01:53:14 to be the DJ Academics podcast, and he told y'all, bro, listen, we was rehearsing this, we was doing this, we were doing that. It wasn't even what the hell y'all talking about. And y'all had the chance to interview academics. Y'all had a chance to bring them up there. Y'all had a chance to interview a whole bunch of people.
Starting point is 01:53:29 And your cop got on the goddamn stand and lied and said that DJ bands and the engineer that y'all loved so much and took his word as gospel that these cats were out of the country. That's not even true. And if you talk about the engineer and how truthful he was about the lyrics,
Starting point is 01:53:43 Well, God damn. He was true about saying we was in a small-ass private jet, and I'm hearing the talking, and there was no talk about this. So the fans can't sit up here and say, oh, you know, it was all good because he talked about the lyrics and said he wanted to harm Cuando Rondo. Brat, this was all. All of this shit was in response and disc tracks and making music and all this shit.
Starting point is 01:54:05 I'm not saying that Little Dirk didn't want something to happen to Quandoando. Everybody knows that he wanted to, bro. Every freaking body knows this shit. But the issue that I'm having with the feds and why people get mad because I say I don't believe the feds. I don't trust the feds is simply merely this. You see what's called completeness of evidence that the feds fought to keep out. But made that the part of their freaking closing. If that ain't something dirty, then what the hell is it?
Starting point is 01:54:32 And shout out to the fans for playing dirty because if you're not playing dirty, you're not trying to win. And that's how you win. So shout out to this emergency motion, man. because they had to do this shit. Wasn't the other way. Y'all playing dirty. Y'all make this a part of your shit. So skip all that.
Starting point is 01:54:49 Subscribe to our best notified share to keep y'all people aware. I'm going to upload the Drew Phelan cross because, I mean, the Drew Phelan close the statements because I thought I did. All right, we got an update, chat. I just want to say first and foremost, I want to say thank you to Judge Fitzgerald
Starting point is 01:55:10 for understanding my frustration. he's ruled in the interim about this particular motion that was an emergency motion filed by Lil Durk's team. If you don't know, Little Durk's team posted a motion saying, hey, listen, we understood when you denied us not being able to introduce other parts of the podcast with Durk and academics during the trial.
Starting point is 01:55:36 But at the point where the prosecutor gets the last word in the case, known as a rebuttal, and they get to slam dunk and they use that same podcast and they use the portion of it that's super misleading, super prejudicial and we have zero chance of trying to show the jury that there was a balanced conversation. There was elsewhere in the interview where it clearly went against what was used in that very short snippet, that's prejudicial.
Starting point is 01:56:08 along with the fact that the podcaster and the greatest media personality of all time DJ academics he admitted himself that he felt away that the prosecutors were attributing an emotion towards him they were putting words in his mind, not even his mouth, pause. The judge has now said and defended DJ academics. The judge just defended DJ academics.
Starting point is 01:56:40 He said he understood why academics is furious that his interview was used in the way it was. But it is up to the jury to decide if his reaction meant he knew about the murder. The motion is denied for now the jurors of acts to see the evidence in digital form. The judge has asked the lawyers and confirm the earliest they could guarantee that is 8 a.m. tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:57:03 Likely, there will be probably no verdict today. Thank you, Judge Fitzgerald. I know I'm not in court, but I appreciate your thoughts and your understanding of me being a civilian, being a member of the media, and me covering the case, but also, you know, I do interviews. I do interviews with artists. I'm, you know, the biggest promoter of artists when it comes to music. We do interviews to talk about albums and other things. And if some content is kind of taken out of context without even. reaching out to me. I'm always, I'm at the liberty of helping whoever, um,
Starting point is 01:57:45 getting an understanding of what was done. I wish I was reached out to. And thank you, Judge, for acknowledging that. And I appreciate you. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Judge. Yeah. Chat. I'll tell you what, what that does. We're going to have to seat on a transcript, but that does open up, that opens up a can of worms for a potential appeal. The judge, even though he didn't deny or he didn't accept the motion, granted, he's in a tough position, it's so late in the game, he doesn't want to taint whatever verdict is going to come back. These are things that are going to be in appeal,
Starting point is 01:58:32 possibly if Dirk does not get found innocent. We will see. You know, again, we're on a truth-seeking mission. We're not here to try to convict a man just because he has lyrics that seem pretty real or there's been situations in real life that seem to match the lyrics. And, you know, I can't speak to what Dirk's been into.
Starting point is 01:59:00 I'm not around him all the time. I could only speak to the interview I did with him. So it's what it is. Somebody said, they still denied, Act, the mere fact that is on the record that is a appellable grounds that could be used for a new motion for new trial if he's found guilty. Trust me.
Starting point is 01:59:43 Trust me. If I don't want Dirk to be found guilty, but I guarantee if he's found guilty, reason number one, when they file the appeal in saying we want to Well, first of all, before they get to the appeal, they're going to do motion for new trial. When they file a motion for a new trial and when they file an appeal, the number one reason is going to say, you guys use DJ academics against me. He wasn't with that shit. You guys going to interview him. You did it in a prejudicial way with rebuttal.
Starting point is 02:00:22 And it was a prejudicial situation that we couldn't put our part of DJ academics interview. How much y'all want to bet? Anybody want to take this? So everybody is waiting for the deliberations to end. We're waiting for the jury to make their decision now. A lot of people are itching for this verdict. Everybody wants to find out what happened. And I've just seen a very, very interesting post that made a point that I think a lot of people are going to find interesting.
Starting point is 02:00:59 So I see a post that was going around on Reddit, and it basically said that in the FBG Duck murder case or the Oblock 6, as they were dubbed, the deliberation. the jury took two days to make that decision. And if anybody remembers that case, that was a very brazen assassination in downtown Chicago. They drove their cars right there, right back to O'Block. There was all types of evidence. And it took years for them to catch them, but they did eventually catch them.
Starting point is 02:01:24 So much evidence was played in court. They even brought Lil Duk's brother Dethang into it. You know, there were these rumors that if Dethang and King Von were alive, they might have actually been on that O Block 6 case as well. And so a lot of people are kind of pointing out on Reddit right now that even in that case where there was a ton of evidence, probably more evidence than this case, let's be real. It took them two days to come to that decision
Starting point is 02:01:46 and those guys were cooked, as they would have said, you know. It definitely makes you think there were some similarities with this case. You know, the Gold Coast of Chicago, that shooting happened outside the Dolce and Gabana store. This is probably that on steroids, you know, the Beverly Center in Hollywood, in Beverly Hills. Like, it's definitely got some similarities. This is kind of probably less evidence,
Starting point is 02:02:06 more brazen where it actually took place and it took them two days to come to that decision. I think everybody is hoping that the decision is made by the end of this week but the jury might need more time.
Starting point is 02:02:16 We're waiting to find out what's going on with that emergency motion and there's probably going to be some big updates coming soon but right now we've got no updates everybody's waiting outside the court waiting for anything to happen for any movement and so far
Starting point is 02:02:28 there's been nothing. So everybody is waiting for the deliberations to end we're waiting for... Oh sorry, echo. I know yeah. probably was getting echo, huh? Sorry.
Starting point is 02:02:41 Sorry, guys. Sorry. I know. I know. Let me see. All right. We haven't been to the Shireakology Reddit. We are in here now.
Starting point is 02:03:02 Wait, what the heck? Do I got to log in or something? What the hell? Why in this? Oh, okay, here we go. Um, is this a Shirecology really? I think it is. Let's look at a new post.
Starting point is 02:03:16 The fact that the jury dismissed the witness testimonies and their demanding that digital evidence is a great sign for Dirk. Day 1 of deliberation is a W for Finland and company. Interesting. Interesting. There will not be a verdict today. The jury passed a note asking to receive all evidence in digital form. Judge Fitzgerald said the jury will receive it tomorrow morning at 8 a.m.
Starting point is 02:03:48 The judge. Okay. Here we go. Okay. It's all good chat. You might not get a verdict today, but it's all right. It's all right.
Starting point is 02:04:18 Nevertheless, we still got five more hours to go. There could still be more updates from court. Court has not let out yet. They're still about, it's not been dismissed yet. It's just clear there won't be a verdict. Why the jury wants information they won't get till tomorrow, but it doesn't mean that they just go home today. Okay.
Starting point is 02:04:46 All right, y'all. Judge Fitzgerald said DJ academics by name twice during the hearing today. Judge Fitzgerald says, I understand why DJ academics is furious with this. He was not a witness. He would later say he has sympathy for academics being furious. Judge Fitzgerald, thank you for being a fair and impartial judge, and I appreciate you for understanding a citizen's worry.
Starting point is 02:05:13 Also, I do want to add to the record this, you know, even though my hopes are, Dirk is an innocent man and he's, you know, he's absent of these, these egregious allegations that the prosecutor is laid upon him, the people in this case who have admitted to what they've done, and I'm talking about the guys who have cooperated. And I'm only, it's not necessarily about cooperation for me,
Starting point is 02:05:39 it's about the people who have admitted to their crimes. So I'm talking about OTFJM. I'm talking about Vonny Brasco, OTF, Vani. And I'm talking about flaka. When you guys mentioned my name in a particular case like this, I'm not a witness. You try to use whatever that you felt my facial expression is. You put me in trouble.
Starting point is 02:05:58 You put my life in danger, right? If jammy the bull, OTF jam, say for whatever reason, based on the interview or whatever else, he doesn't get his plea deal. He doesn't get, I don't know, whatever he expects to get from the government. I'm pretty sure he's going to blow. claim, Dirk. I'm pretty sure he might even say, it's that academics guy. He messed up my plan. I don't think it's fair, you know, especially when you have admitted killers,
Starting point is 02:06:24 scammers, these are things that I don't participate in. I don't know about hot cars. I don't know about switches. Okay? I don't know about all of these things. You have Flaka, he's an admitted murderer. You have OTF jam. He's described by the defense as a serial killer. And you have O.T. Fani. They mentioned in this trial that he might have connections to the cartel. My name is Livingston, Allen, AK academics. I got no
Starting point is 02:06:49 criminal ties and you know, throw my name in here saying that I received a murder conviction or a murder confession only puts my life in danger. And thank you, Judge Fitzgerald, for at least, you know, sympathizing with me because, yeah, you know, I think it puts me squarely
Starting point is 02:07:07 in the crosshairs of, you know, very dangerous individuals like OTF Jam and, you know, flaca and, and, um, and Bonnie, you know, um, with all due respect, I've never been in Chicago, all right? Born in Jamaica, a little boy that come from the little countryside of Jamaica and I live in Jersey. Okay, I don't want these evil men that the prosecutor is given sweetheart deals to come
Starting point is 02:07:36 try to terrorize me because the prosecutor in their thirst to convict Dirk wants to throw my name in there. Please. Please. Please. Chat, we're here to still cover what's going on. This is a lot. It's a lot. No, you got to think about it. You know, they put my life in danger. Do you hear what? OTF Jam went into a police station and confessed to three murders. Potentially his fate, his sweetheart sentence might be tied to dirt going down.
Starting point is 02:08:32 and then they say that I supposedly received Dirk's confession, which no one asked me if I did. So now who knows what this trial might turn into? I'm not here to pick size in terms of that. Let justice prevail. But imagine if Jammy the Bull now has a vendetta against me because it doesn't go his way. Come on now.
Starting point is 02:08:57 I don't think it's fair. I don't get witness protection like Jammy the Bull. I don't get, you know, to change my identity. and move to Idaho like Flaka or Vonny Brasco. I don't get to do that. I got to sit here. My address is on Google. I'm a sitting duck.
Starting point is 02:09:17 Just a good old media personality and hip-hop. And I just don't think it's fair to just start assuming that, you know, a look on my face means I affirmed communications about a murder. Dangerous. Dangerous. And by the way, the feds presented that this was a dangerous wild case. If you say that, Vonny Brasco, OTF Jam, jamming the bull, and Flaka were so bold, so brazen that they pulled up an infinity hot car down a goddamn alleyway, jumped out and killed somebody in front of the Beverly Center in Los Angeles, Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 02:10:04 What do you think they would do to me? Mr. Morris, man, come on. Have some, you got to have some, you know, you can't, you can't, I know you're trying to get dirt, but you can't just throw civilians like big act to the wolves. You can't do that, brother. You can't just throw civilians like big act to the wolves, you know? Especially when you're giving the real killers and the real serial killers and thieves and cartel associates deals.
Starting point is 02:10:32 Like, come on now. Come on now. Please. Please. Well, let's continue, people. If I didn't have enough to worry about. I got to worry about a little baby trying to kill me. Now I got to worry about Jammy the Bull.
Starting point is 02:11:05 Okay. Anything else, Chad? Oh, man. Where's the new updates? What's going on? So we know they're going to get more digital evidence tomorrow. Someone made a great point, at least on Reddit. It is a good sign for Dirk.
Starting point is 02:11:27 If this case was all about believing the co-conspirators or the people or the snitches, you know, or not, they would have voted guilty already. Or they would have not, you know, whether it's yes or no, they would either vote or guilty or ready or said, I'm going to vote not guilty. I don't believe these guys. Clearly they're going into some secondary evidence. They want to see digital evidence. They want to see text messages.
Starting point is 02:11:52 They want to see threads. They want to see financial records. And these things are going to be in digital formats. Okay? I'm pretty sure they had printouts, but they want to see certain things. Pretty sure they have little iPads or computers and they want to be able to whatever. Now we have zero idea what that. conversation has been like, have they done an initial vote, how different is the opinion?
Starting point is 02:12:13 We get to, we're apparently told by Traplow Ross that the O Block 6, that trial actually lasted two days. I'll play a little bit, and yes, you know, the O Block 6, Traplow Ross, look at him, he looks different, but he covered that too. And I know you guys might not like trenches, but I am. I'm going to play a little bit of him because that's where Trenches kind of broke on the scene. Trench's news did testify in court. I'm going to enter.
Starting point is 02:12:49 Okay. Actually, Trench's News did a video where he walks in court. Trench's new courthouse. Like he, and he explained why before, maybe he deleted it, before he took the stand, he explained why he was taking the stand and he took a picture. up there. That picture is real. Trenches News records in the courthouse. I don't know if
Starting point is 02:13:21 yeah, I think he probably deleted it. The judge probably chewed his ass out. Pause. You know, you're not supposed to, even if it's not in session, you're not supposed to film in federal court. But I remember watching a video of him walking in federal court and I was like, this is insane. Maybe it's on Reddit. It's probably definitely on Reddit. Somebody's got it.
Starting point is 02:14:01 You recorded a vlog. I think he deleted. did it. Damn. Does anybody have it? Maybe Reddy got it. Oh yeah, and the Sun Times ran the video, they ran an article. Trenches News Court. Let's see if we can find it. I remember him
Starting point is 02:14:39 walking around. The courtroom was empty. I remember him doing the I think the phase got on his ass for that. I didn't go cap. I don't know why he desks. I think he'd say he testified because he said it was tired of the killing and stuff like that. He was just sick of it.
Starting point is 02:14:57 you know as we kind of try to figure out why Jam testify you know the prosecutor said yo he was only he took a three year plea for his gun charge so why do you think he admitted to murder they kind of made it seem like
Starting point is 02:15:12 he was just sick of it which I'm a little bit skeptical of jam being sick of all the stuff yeah I don't know does anybody remember that video trenches news courthouse is this trenches
Starting point is 02:15:35 news? Wait, is this trenching news? Yeah, there was a video. I can't find a video. Does anybody know where that video is? Trenches News. Somebody got to have it. I remember seeing it at the time. It was a shocking
Starting point is 02:16:14 video. I'm like, is this guy like just filming, walking around? Like, it was an empty courtroom. But I think it's federal court. The fuck? Somebody said, go back. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, now, he had a ski on. He had a ski on. according to the source yeah
Starting point is 02:16:46 I don't think we don't have the video I don't got a video man it's somewhere yeah the fed's got this shit deleted chat trust me the feds got that shit deleted does anybody uh bro I am not lying
Starting point is 02:17:29 I remember seeing that shit you know what I'm talking about eh it was a time like yo he posted right before like uh his thing and he was like, yep, I did it. I'm going to be testifying. By the way, I'm not trying to expose him or anything.
Starting point is 02:18:03 I think he's pretty open with this type of stuff. So, you know, they deleted the shit out of this. Yes, when he walked in the empty court, I'm like, that's what I'm saying. Does anyone know where that video is? Anybody know what that video is? Yeah, you can't find it. Wow. Trenches News courtroom.
Starting point is 02:18:41 Fuck, they deleted this shit? This is a good scrubbing of the internet. It got took down. Let me find out It was the FBG duck trial FBG duck We can't even find it on shorts You can't find it nowhere
Starting point is 02:19:20 That's when he took that picture in that chair Okay, I'm not gonna obsess over it Now the cat's fuck Man Yeah, I can't find it Wow This is what happened with the Oh, this is right here, it's right here
Starting point is 02:19:57 Right We've never This is federal court y'all They subpoenaed me the court I gotta come here, man, and tell them, man. There ain't no more discrepancies. I'm here. Long little Carlton, man, you know, hey, nice courtroom.
Starting point is 02:20:35 They got some nice snacker downstairs. Ain't the average Italian beef and Pepsi, man. But they got, you know, they got fruit snacks. They got, you know, they got guy rolls and shit like that. They're hooking us up. You hit me, they're hooking us up. And they gave us a hundred dollars gift card, man, bad for body broken you know so shit i can't i can't miss this opportunity i asked the judge can i keep on
Starting point is 02:20:58 yo this trenchers news live reporting from you from the durksin federal building man today is the called some weekly day and the old block sloppy six man um this is the trial of the century we got truth telling the washroom smoking coke and sniffing and sniffing rocks and then we have a couple more bloggers in here but trenching news was able to get early access to everything. And I know how you wonder and how I'm still in here with my mask on. Hey, don't worry about that.
Starting point is 02:21:29 Ask the cop who's on the stand for Melly. Now, with that being said, you got a point. There was a cop that was on the stand for Melly with a Shai-Stie on. And apparently, the judge allowed it because he was currently still doing investigations where he was a undercover agent.
Starting point is 02:21:49 And really, most of it was like him being like a gang expert. Be back at child on the news, on this news report. I will bring you the latest. And shut out to the people who left the donuts and the coffee this morning. It was nice and hot. The donuts was creamy. And they gave us some gift cards, man.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Yeah, so he did participate in that trial. I don't know if you guys remember the O Block 6 trial. Again, we saw, you know, FBG, Butter who actually did he predicted a lot of stuff with Dirk he spoke on the O Block 6 listen to him but they're all facing mandatory life sentences
Starting point is 02:22:40 when you heard that all six of them got life sentences I'm about to get life sentences but I've all been found guilty did that bring some sort of closure to your friend died man that shit piss me out cause you want me tell you why I made me man
Starting point is 02:22:54 because nigga I was just going to go back to jails for these niggas and I saw you telling me I already got a peach for them to still get found guilty. But then I am. You know what? My fuck's didn't tell the world, right? T's, I mean, no, no, that what's the tall?
Starting point is 02:23:13 The tall one from the old block six. The big, he's the young, he's tall, he, he, he, he, he, seats. There's, C murder, Kenny Mack, Low C thing, but what? See murder. See murder. See murder, the tall. Nah, not, see murder. See murder.
Starting point is 02:23:27 See murder, he'll ball him. he bawled his ass like Terry Lane's on the hill no no seriously but the young one the tall one what's the nigga name I can't
Starting point is 02:23:41 look at me trying to talk about right this is what he flashed sitting in the back of the stall in the car that they just did the hit in then he dropped a song him and zeal
Starting point is 02:23:53 where they talked about the shoes in the song right and then your boy Mouwap what he say right around time with the shit with with with with the get back sure if the dude from 63 he can't get back up that's what I did to do for 63 he can't get back up
Starting point is 02:24:12 yeah me the whole thing was was a what why would you even make a song quote asked what happened to the dude from 63rd ask what I did to the dude from 63 he can't get back up that's what you said it that's what he said his lyrics right after he killed up right so I mean You have butter in this situation saying that Muwop, we've heard Muwop's name in this dirt trial, said Muwop made a song basically admitting to it. It's kind of some of the stuff they're claiming dirt did. Then he had to look.
Starting point is 02:24:46 Hence he was giving it to the internet. The flashes from his shoes and he was doing a lot of stupid shit. Then on top of that, they did the shit that went back to Fedway Gar. And they have the text messages between them. Oh, yeah. And yeah, them and Lisei Osama, little brother. He got caught with one of the switches that was used in the case. And told him, I'm like, man, I got that shit from dude now.
Starting point is 02:25:15 Showed the text messages and everything, nigga. They had messages. Okay, I'm sorry. It was meeting. Okay, so I'm going to play a little bit of what happened with this O Block 6 thing. This is revolving the death and murder of FBG duck. The reason why I'm going to do it is that as we sit here at the precipice of the, the death and murder of Savaya Robinson and how maybe the jury might go.
Starting point is 02:25:55 We do have an example. And Traplow Ross brought up the murder and subsequent conviction of the O Block 6 in terms of FBG Do. It's not about comparing how similar the hits were, but really more of how the court cases were. Because, again, it turns out to be a bunch of co-defendants who are accused of a single crime, which is a crime is committing murder in whatever. way. Now, clearly Dirk's case is more of a murder for hire. This case was not, but there is similarities there, okay? So we play a little bit of it. I think this is Trappler-Ross, so, you know, don't, don't hate too much. But I'm going to speed it up too.
Starting point is 02:26:39 On the morning of the 4th of August 2020, the members from Oblock are chilling on their block, openly selling weed or Tuka and Zaza, as they call it, and discussing their operation to a camera recording line. This is my dog on Chief David. On B, that's my roadie. Oh, man, I got Zaghan David, nigga. Big bag of that shit. Big grocery bag of that shit. You got in your bag, bitch. That man?
Starting point is 02:27:02 You know that man? What you got over here, folks? I'm King David. Everybody got me a big way of because of the big gifle. They're really going, nigga. That's all you, he smokes. Big one, you know. That's my son.
Starting point is 02:27:13 That's my son. That's my son. Now, I know some of y'allam like, act what's the similarities? Well, this is another case where prosecutors were able to make their case by saying these guys overshared. They inadvertently admitted to these crimes, maybe through lyrics or through other social media postings.
Starting point is 02:27:32 And it was rather, it took two days to get these guys convicted, but they were indeed all convicted of murder of FBG Duck. I'm going to speed up a little bit. And later that day, we would see just how far they were willing to take this truly reckless attitude. 4 a.m. that same morning, FBG Duck wakes up in a bad mood. making a Facebook status suggesting that he was angry about the murder of his brother, Brick, hoping that he bumps into the killer. Little did he know he would do just that, that very same day.
Starting point is 02:27:59 Because on the afternoon of August 4th, 2020, less than one month after the release of FBG Duck's incredibly disrespectful song, Dead Bishes, Duckgo shopping in the Gold Coast, a place that's been described as the rodeo drive of Chicago, a luxury. Another similarity between this particular case and the little pop case, the Chicago Gold Coast, as, despite, unlike 63rd and, Parkway Gardens, O'block and everything. The Gold Coast is where you would find Hermes.
Starting point is 02:28:27 You would find YSEL. You would find Dolce and Gabana. You would find Chanel. This is where luxury high-end shopping goes down. Not usually where you see run-and-gun crime and people playing, you know, cops and robbers. It doesn't really happen there. However, on this day, this was different and it matches to the other case because just like the other case with little pub, this was done in front of the Beverly Center. Okay, one of the most prestigious places to shop in the entire LA area, and it's in the Beverly Hills region.
Starting point is 02:28:57 The high-end shocking district and a high-profile tourist area. And it was here the FBG Duck must have been located by his enemies, because while he's shopping, two vehicles end up here 30 minutes away from Oblock, arriving directly outside where Duck is shopping. At about 4.37 p.m., duck is confronted outside of the Dolce and Gobana store by around four masked individuals who hop out of the car opening fire. Duck pulls a gun and tries to return fire, but it jams, falling to the ground along with Duck himself, as bullet after bullet is fired into his body. Duck is shot numerous times with some outlets even reporting that he could have been shot as many as 38 times,
Starting point is 02:29:26 and he's left to die there by the shooters who immediately flee the scene in their cars. A man and a woman that was standing with Duck at the time of the shooting are both injured but luckily survived. At this point, scared and confused members of the public begin to crowd around Duck's body with some even videotaping the aftermath of this terrible crime. Eventually, a 12-minute video is uploaded in its entirety,
Starting point is 02:29:42 depicting the aftermath of that incident where Duck lays there on the ground for an extended period of time fighting for his life. This video is far too shocking to show you on YouTube, but once again, it really drives home just how much destruction these killers were so willing to inflict on the streets that they live in and upon the fellow citizens who live there alongside them. Duck's mother would later claim that the police actually stop the ambulances getting through, preventing Duck from receiving medical attention in the adequate timeframe. They even block the ambulance off from getting to him. See, that's what they don't want the world to know, but I'm going to tell it and I'm going to get justice for my son.
Starting point is 02:30:11 By the way, interestingly enough, Lashana Weekly, that's her name I believe, Mama Duck, she did end up suing supposedly all involved parties and alleged parties. And apparently Dolce and Gabana did give her a settlement. They gave her a settlement of an undisclosed amount. Why? Because the shooting happened in front of their store. It's kind of unclear because it didn't seem like the fault of Dolce and Gabana. However, you know, through the narrative, it was said that, you know, due to maybe poor security that they had there,
Starting point is 02:30:45 it probably allowed for that incident to happen. Okay? Duck's killing, this brazen, broad daylight shooting that made international news. With reporters comparing the killing to the slaying of Chicago mob bosses back in the 30s. On August 4th, 2020, it looked like an old-time outfit attack here on Chicago's Oak Street. Two attack cars, four shooters, and a hail of bullets. But the target wasn't a 1930s gangster. He was a new millennium rapper, FBG Duck.
Starting point is 02:31:10 Considering how publicly this murder was carried out, there was an insane amount of media retention around Duck's death. And according to his own mother, Duck had been reported dead on the news before she had even had an opportunity to identify her son's body. The news actually announced he was dead before I can even go to the hospital. But even more chilling than that is the fact that Duck's mother witnessed people finding out about the news on the street and clapping in joy. Somebody actually clapped in the crowd when they pronounced my son of being deceased. I hit the floor. I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 02:31:37 Adding even further insult to Duck's family in this horrible time, the mayor of Chicago came out with a statement saying that Duck fancied himself as a rapper but was really just a gangster. Clearly not aware of the work that Duck was doing to improve his life or the pledge that he'd made his mother after his brother's death to focus on the music rather than the streets. Now people made a lot of the fact that this happened in such an upscale and upmarket part of Chicago, far from the rundown hoods where this speech supposedly originated from. One article spoke of Duck bringing a street fight between the have-nots into turf controlled by the hats, suggesting that these drill rappers are so-called have-nots that usually just kill each other on the south side of the city where nobody cares, going on to say that these killings are being done for clout and comparing all of the white people standing on the street watching Duck die to the movie Hotel Rwanda. and going on to say that because of the socio-economic implications of Duck
Starting point is 02:32:17 Twitter only hours before the hit took place with Lil Reese. But the thing is, building the actual case to catch the people that killed Duck would take some time. But fortunately, those who were involved in the crime would begin dropping crumbs and clues from the very moment that they got back from the hit. The very day that FBG Duck is killed, see murder from Oblock, post a picture of himself at Instagram doing the GD Killer Hand sign, with the caption, Anyway, GDK, a reference to a King Von lyric.
Starting point is 02:32:37 Meanwhile on the other side of the spectrum, soon after Duck's killing, Lil Duck went live on Instagram whilst getting off of a private jet. He didn't really say anything, but the comment, are crammed with people mentioning that FBG Duck was just murdered. Of course, Dirk was conveniently out of Chicago whilst this happened, something he had made publicly clear on Twitter only hours before the hit took place, with Lil Reese also sliding in on the alibi too. Now, a lot of people speculated that Lil Dirk going live so soon after Duck's murder
Starting point is 02:32:58 was a cantulated move to show the world and the authorities that he was indeed far away from the crime when it happened, the perfect alibi. But on the flip side, Dirk would also go on to tweet Rest in Peace New Ski, his cousin, only an hour and a half after Duck was killed. So clearly, Ducks passing meant something to him. And the day after Ducks' death, King Vaughn would release his song with Lil Dirk, all these N-words. That track doesn't have any specific lyrics pertaining to Duck's death, but the timing can't be ignored, and of course it's filled with King Bond rapping about having
Starting point is 02:33:19 bodies from way back. The fact that they went ahead and still released this in spite of what was going on. Just goes to show you there were really no plans for Oblock all their affiliates to keep quiet after this event had played out. And the same day that that song Mimo 600 is seen smoking a blunt on IG live whilst all the comments ask if it's duck that he is smoking. And he confirms this by showing off a custom Duck Callie pack. But he wasn't the only one showing disrespect. 600 Breezy dropped a snippet of an FBG Duck disc song, pondering publicly whether he should still release it, even though Duck is debt. But it was exactly 10 days after Duck's murder on August 14th, 2020, when King
Starting point is 02:33:47 Von is seen in Atlanta at the Icebox Jewelers, picking up a number of diamond-encrusted custom oblock chains for his goons. Even posting a handy list of names who would receive these chains next to it. Now I don't know what was engraved on every single one of these personalized chains, but taking a closer look at the backside of Von's personal extra large obloch blockchain, we can see what this is really about, because it's engraved with the names of nine fallen Oblock Associates, along with a crosshair, the number 64, the old name for Oblock Wick City and the tagline Oblock for Life. Von himself had this extra large Oblock chain
Starting point is 02:34:15 whilst the smaller ones were distributed to other members. This includes several people who are now in custody for the murder of FBG Duck. People like C-Murder and Muwot, who was seen flexing his new chain extensively on IG. And we saw the likes of DQ being gifted his chain personally by King Von. Now, for the record, Von had been planning
Starting point is 02:34:35 to give his hitters chains for several months before the murder of FBG Duck. Even being seen on social media consultant, with his crew about the chains all the way back in May 2020. You hear me, young? Yeah. White gold, yellow gold or rose gold? I say white.
Starting point is 02:34:49 White gold. You know how that's it. My man, white. And even custom designing them at Icebox before Ducks passing. But it is slightly curious that we didn't start seeing... Y'all see Vonny Brascal just now. The chain's getting shown off until 10 days after Ducks murder. When a full video about them was released on Icebox's YouTube channel,
Starting point is 02:35:05 where we see King Von basically explaining that specific chains are to be customized for specific getbacks. With the vengeance of Sheroid, apparently correspond. to a sheroid squad chain. I want to split this, 1992 to 2000. Okay, who's that one? Sharaz spot. I want to know the name.
Starting point is 02:35:19 B, MIRDA. And then you just, how do you spell it? C-H-C-N-O? So right here, Ivan, we're just adding C-H-E-N-O. Who all got rules go? Oh, I think smooth, Roles Go. So with his team fully iced out,
Starting point is 02:35:33 his biggest rival out the way, and arguably the biggest get-back of his career under his belt. It would really make sense for Von to get as far away as possible from the streets and focus on his music career. And the day after taking the day after taking the day, delivery of those oblochains, Vaughn would be back on Instagram teasing new music. But funnily enough, the fans seemed more interested in the getbacks than the songs
Starting point is 02:35:48 with the comments going crazy mentioning the death of Duck. And Von would eventually even have to tell people to stop talking about it as the comments got so clogged with people mentioning Duck. Man, next motherfucker put anything about some big cloud of a heartbeat, anything on this bitch. I'm striking a knickers out like baseball, come on. But Von wouldn't avoid the topic for a lot. As the days go by, him and his team would lean into social media, getting more and more use to the fans constantly bringing up the killing of Duck.
Starting point is 02:36:08 A couple days later, Von was on IG Live with DQ in a store, unable to help himself but mocked the Ox just a little bit, telling his IG live that there ain't no more FBG. All that dissent or saying something or even acting like y'all with some shit that y'all don't know but show I ain't with. I'm going to smash that one. Y'all ain't going to fit like that. See, and we know y'all ain't y'all ain't gangsy. Y'all ain't y'all ain't got like gang. Ain't no more FBG? Ain't that right? Ain't that right? You all right.
Starting point is 02:36:35 A couple of days after that, Von is on O'block, with Gleche telling the O'clock, with Gleche telling the O'clock. We're on the plot, look. Pull up, y'all know when he come out of some fucking move, we pull up in a lot. On BD, just pull up in a lot. Two days later, August 22nd, and Oblock Woni goes live saying that he's smoking on duck and telling his viewers that you can get here anywhere, any place and that they're still dangerous. Let's smoke the water to the duck, you know? Shit can happen to you, you could die.
Starting point is 02:36:59 Whatever can happen, like, you know, anywhere, you know, like it could just happen, like, you know, we're dangerous, like, we pull up on you and shit, like, you know? Duck your taco. Oh, hell's the rest. It can happen like, it could happen like whenever, wherever. Tea thing somewhere in traffic. The day after that, Kenny Mack posts up on Instagram, a picture with C-Murder saying that they're killers.
Starting point is 02:37:22 And a few days later on August the 28th, C-thang would go live to an audience of around 10 people, quickly getting spooked by the fact that the only people that showed up were fans saying that he killed Duck. But one of the most famous incidents of self-snitching in this story would surface on August the 31st, 2020. When an interview is released with Boss Top from O Block speaking on camera. This interview is him surrounded by members on the block speaking about what things were like before the fame and discussing his relationships with King Bonnville Dirk.
Starting point is 02:37:44 Thing is, if you're going to take a vlogger into a gang stronghold, you might want to be a bit more careful about what you say and where you say it, because this interview with Boss Top contained a number of very incriminating details. First thing they do is walk onto the block telling the camera that their homies are smoking brick and duck. Yeah. We got a roll no brick over there. Yeah. Hell, if you look at the comments on this video, you will see that there is a bunch of people
Starting point is 02:38:07 pointing out the fact that there is a car the same model as the one that was used in the murder of FBG Duck. parked right next to them. Sure it could be a coincidence, but it does make you wonder why only less than a month after a gangland murder in the middle of a busy street that these guys are inviting vloggers to their block to record them. And so it was in this very interview that Bostop from O'Block would post up in front of the camera telling the vlogger that he's willing to answer anything. Anything you say? Any question? I'm asking. Any question? Any question? Any question? I'm asking that shit. Well, naturally, he's eventually asked about FBG Duck and his answer
Starting point is 02:38:34 is really something. Boss Top immediately says that Duction of diss their dead homie T-roy, before catching himself and then shutting up. Any thoughts on him? Like, did you know him? Did you know him before? Like everything? Oh no. Okay.
Starting point is 02:38:48 All I know, don't say that shit about Troy or... Rest the piece. D. But if that wasn't enough, a flustered boss top then redirects the camera's attention to the hit of standing behind them, one of whom does a nose wiping motion. Okay, he's like, you got anything about FD, duh? We, yeah, you know what I'm saying? You know, don't say shit about Troy.
Starting point is 02:39:08 That's it. You don't know what's about Troy. Get that guy over there. Whatever you know me, come on man, don't do that. I don't do that, you know I know that. Stop playing. Stop playing. Stop playing.
Starting point is 02:39:21 Stopping somebody else's death. Bossok will then go on to call his O Block chain a trophy. This shit ain't no more for the chain. This is like a trophy, so this is our brother, no. This shit more than the chain. This shit, I like that. Now, I like that. Now, this most incriminating section of the interview
Starting point is 02:39:37 was removed from that video around a year before the arrest took place. But that particular clip was captured and still circulates to this day. And even though that parts edited out, all of the original comments remain, with many long before the arrests, pointing out that Boss Top indeed did point directly at one of Duck shooters. But it would be unfair for Boss Top to take the blame for all of the self-snitching, because as the days go by, Oblock members continue to appear on camera and on social media, leaking incriminating info that appeared to tie them to the crime. On September the 2nd, Big Woney goes live on Instagram once again, this time arguing with one of FBG Ducks's friends, FBG Measel, with Woney bragging that they can't diss O'Block because O'Block kill their ops. Why this niggas that's killing y'all? Nah, my homie stood over your homies. It's different.
Starting point is 02:40:12 Oseh gets stood over. Who? Diggas red. You keep mentioning, motherfuck name, birth name. Fuck, duck. What the fuck? I'm gonna grab the duck joints. I don't want to have to come out.
Starting point is 02:40:22 The day after that, see Thang and Big Whonia scene on IT Live again, this time showing themselves on FaceTime with fellow accused murderer and real musician from Jacksonville, Koso. Hey, hey, what are you smoking on, man? I'm gonna lie out right now, man. Who are you smoking on, man? Who you smoking on from the rack, man? What do you say?
Starting point is 02:40:37 What did you say? They can't hear you, fault. Duck, Doc. You smoking that Duck Doc, quack. Duck, Duck, quack. You say you smoking that Duck, my boy, Koso, smoking that duck, really. Yes, so that was Keesow from Jacksonville saying that he's smoking on Duck, too. It's really crazy to see how Woni and Cethang just could not resist the clout that was on offer in that moment.
Starting point is 02:40:57 They were on a phone call with another killer, and they just couldn't help but brag about the killings that they had done themselves. They truly wanted the whole world state to state to know that they killed Duck. Only a few days after that, King Vaughn is seen on IG Live doing a god-dam impression of fbg duck you're gonna say it's a real nina party you cannot get in but it's another man i can't shake your hand no i'm not your friend i'm yeah oh yeah oh shit weak no this guy's party every bedion this dish made it after changes but once keep on a
Starting point is 02:41:38 whatever you're saying see what you said did you push up this morning no but it wasn't just the oblochians going live because on september the 10th fbg measles all goes live himself of course the comments are immediately crammed with people dissing dund and Measel begins to respond by dissing deceased O-Block members like H.K. and T. Roy. Fuck hat, bitch. Troy, suck my dick. At a certain point, Measel throws on FBG Duck's mad disrespectful anthem dead bitches and continues to dis his ops. Big Cloud Way to Knowin, they go fuck the old. Fuck T-Roy. Fuck bawdy. Fuck all, Troy. They don't.
Starting point is 02:42:08 We stay smoking Troy little ass. Don't phone to me little ass. I got smoked that big ass straight off. But here's where things get a little strange. Because at a certain point, an accountant appears to belong to Zell Munner, an alleged relative of HK and T-Roy, begins commenting on this live asking where Measel is. But here's the thing. It was unclear whether or not this was really Zell Munner from Obloch, because his official Instagram page had an underscore rather than a full stop. In fact, even the real Zell with the underscore under his name shined in to try and let everybody know that there was a fake account impersonating him commenting on this page. And it does make you wonder who was the fake Zell with the full stop in their name? Was it really just Zell on a burner
Starting point is 02:42:38 account trolling? Could it be one of the ops trying to draw Zell out? Or could it be the feds trying to seed information that they already knew? Well, perhaps we'll never know, but what happened next is crazy. Because this fake Zell account was a full stop in the name, Posts a flurry of comments on Measles live, seemingly taking full responsibility for the murder of Duck. One comment says, fuck Duck, we won. Measel seemingly unaware that this is a potentially fake account commenting, begins to say that he's going to beat Zell's ass. Hey, Zell, I will beat your ass over ass about there, you a bitch. But from here, the fake Zell, with a full stop in his name, releases a barrage of comments, saying,
Starting point is 02:43:06 Ask Duck About Us, followed by Duck emojis. He says, Ask Duck about that FN, which is a manufacturer of guns. He says Duck couldn't take that FN. He then says, ask your homie about them blue tips, which is referring to a type of bullet that the FM guns take, Going on to say that the entire Oblock is dead, and at a certain point, people begin to comment saying that Zelle is losing his mind and that he should know better than comment these things. Other accounts clock on to the fact that this is a fake Zell commenting, but at certain point other fake accounts begin to pop up in the comments, impersonating other Oblock members saying incriminating things. Things like C murder is going to kill Measel. Clearly Measel doesn't get the message about all the fake ops that are in his comments once again.
Starting point is 02:43:36 And he begins to this. Hey, boy, Zell money boy, you a bitch, you a bit. Comment that the feds are active in the TV and Zell go live on Oblock. And one of the top comments on this says that these guys are dropping new. clues about this murder on a daily basis. But it was on September the 16th, 2020, that things got really silly, as King Von himself begins to tweet publicly, suggesting that him and FBG Duck had a song together, telling his followers on Twitter that they had settled their differences before he passed, which was a little bit hard to believe considering their history also around
Starting point is 02:44:04 the same time, Von had been spotted commenting on IG calling famous Dex a homophobic slur in response to Dex saying that he was emotional about Duck's passing. Frankly, I didn't believe a word of Von's tweets, and I don't think you should either. But it really just seemed like Von was having a good time without a care in the world, assuming that he or his team would never be implicated in the murder of Duck. In fact, during the In this period, Von and his team were having a great time, with Von flying out several O-Block members to Atlanta to hang out with him and enjoy his success. Whilst in Atlanta, Muwok and C Murder were seen filming a music video with Von, ironically,
Starting point is 02:44:29 in a fake jailhouse setup. How you're looking, Mu-O-O-O-W-A. They're talking about murder, whole ass. What about murder? The big low on here, you tell your whole app. What? See, Murder got boys. Come on, Mu-Wap, man.
Starting point is 02:44:42 Go on here, Mu-Wap. BJ is also seen hanging out with Von and other members in Atlanta, and in one spectacular display of self-snitching, Vaughn goes live whilst. getting off of a plane with Muwop where he openly tells a fan that Muwop has loads of bodies. This is Muwap, he's crazy, he got all the type of butt now. He's left. Come on Muwap, my mum, come on. My body guard.
Starting point is 02:45:04 Come on Body Guy. Meanwhile, back on Obloch, after that Boss Top interview where he quite literally pointed at Seethang after saying Duck was murdered for dissing T Roy, Seethang would continue to go live on IG. And of course, everybody is in his comments saying that Boss Top spilled the beans about Obloch killing Duck and letting him know personally. and letting him know personally that the feds do know that Seethang was involved. In fact, at one point when responding to a fan who asked who was on the block, Seethang slips up and nearly says all of the killers, quickly correcting himself and saying members.
Starting point is 02:45:28 Shit, the whole phone of all the members. He would go on to deny ever-knowing Duck. What you think about Duck? I don't know. I ain't know. And later, he would say that he has a song coming that is no cap, meaning that the song contains no lies in everything that he says on it is true. There ain't no capping that shit neither, boy. Now, despite not getting arrested,
Starting point is 02:45:46 These guys would be fools to think that the feds weren't at least paying some attention. And so on October the 7th, 2020, the FBI has seen patrolling through Oblock with C-Murder himself deciding to film them. On my mama, bro. Oh my mama, they own the blocks, cut. They own the motherfucking blocks, cut. What the fuck? Oh yeah, that's D.A. FBI. And here come motherfucking Parkway security.
Starting point is 02:46:13 I know everybody. In fact, C-Murder actually recorded the FBI walking through O'Block whilst yelling, fuck brick. I got you. Hold that motherfucker up. Whatever, see. Hope that fuck they. Boy, let us see that thing, boy. So it's clear that the feds are at least surveilling O'block,
Starting point is 02:46:29 but no rest have been made at the spot. But funnily enough, King Vaughn seems to have his own surveillance crew in O'block, a camera crew, following him around and making documentaries about him and his crew as his career continues to rise. I'll go back the parkway. You know, I see all my old friends, all the guys out there, all on, the guys, moms and shit. Go see their everybody like it. And away from the cameras in the music, King Vaughn would continue to dis FBD Duck at every single
Starting point is 02:46:50 opportunity. His October release, Welcome to Oblock, contained numerous disses aimed at Duck, and while on a press run for this new release, Von would even check in with DJ Academics for an on-the-phone interview. And it was in this interview where DJ academics pressed his King Von about his earlier tweets suggesting that him and Duck had squashed their beef, with Von denying that he died suggesting that somebody had deleted the DMs between them. You know you and Duck didn't make up. His mom came out. He said, you and Duck came out. Hey, how you go see that? See this, this ain't this ain't, that would never have. His mama was not there. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:47:20 You see what I'm saying? I'm talking to him. You see what I'm saying? Then they deleted out like I DM so I can't show them to. Now from here, a flustered von Tressor sidestep, his past beef with Doc, saying that they just went to school together. It ain't. They just make it look crazy to y'all. These are really people you are into school.
Starting point is 02:47:35 Now, that shit's just do look crazy to me. I get you not. That's how they make it. You got to understand. Like you said, they write down the street. We went to school. It ain't like that's it. You know, and then, you know, it's just that we ain't cool no more.
Starting point is 02:47:46 But it's, you know. But it ain't that's the point where I, let's sit down, let's talk about it. It ain't fuck that shit. At both of us raping, we can figure some shit out. We need to stop the shit, violence, all the violence, that shit, that shit. We got a voice, you see what I'm saying? Like, we tell Chicago fall back and tell Chicago for all the thing. And eventually, academics asked Bond how he felt when he found out about Duck's death.
Starting point is 02:48:03 And at this point, I kid you not, King Bond begins to slowly eat cereal out of the box, telling academics that he was hurt by Duck's death in an incredibly unconvincing manner. Were you saddened by the news that he was murdered then? That shit hurt. I ain't gonna go to sleep that night. I can't believe that shit. At this point, King Von couldn't even continue keeping a straight face. So he tells academics to hold on and points the camera away from his face,
Starting point is 02:48:26 when for a moment we hear what sounds like King Von and his homie BJ, just straight up sniggering and laughing. And even when Von gets his composure and comes back on camera, he slips up because for a very brief moment, we see BJ in the back of the car laughing uncontrollably. I can't believe that shit. Hold on, man. Not a great look, guys, not a great look.
Starting point is 02:49:10 But in the end, none of that would really matter, because no one could have expected what would happen next. As King Von, the chosen one, the head honcho of his crew of fearless hitters, would end up being let down by his crew and himself, losing his life in the streets, but in a whole different state. Weirdly, for reasons completely unrelated to this long, bloody war. Well, damn, man, there's been a lot of bloodshed, man. We need to hear some good news, man, some peace, man.
Starting point is 02:49:53 There we go. You guys, Lisa Figaro here. I just wanted to update you that emergency motion or emergency hearing was because Dirk's team filed an emergency motion to interrupt essentially the jury deliberations. Right now the jury is deliberating. And that whole thing about academics' face and how Dirk responded about the comments and the slide for Vaughn, all of that. The defense had always been saying we want to introduce something. context. We want to play not the whole interview, but there's a portion. The whole thing where Dirk is about love and not hate and this other side that was actually a really nice portion of the
Starting point is 02:50:38 interview and they have been saying, look, you need the context, you need the context. And the judge said no, didn't allow it. Fine. Closing arguments happen. And then on that last rebuttal of the prosecution, they get up there and say, hey, you don't need context. It's just a clear as day what this means and look at academics face he knew he knew and the defense is saying wait a second judge you left that out we've been telling you we need context now they don't it's not fair the prosecutor now gets to get up and say you don't need context and they cited some case law that says that under these circumstances they are arguing the judge has the authority the interrupt deliberations and introduced now those portions of academics interview they even cited a footnote of academics saying hey I didn't
Starting point is 02:51:27 know anything this is just this is a script this is what I do I'm a promoter I'm out there pushing things out this has nothing to do with anything and they tell the the judge in the motion you didn't call academics as a witness so this is not fair and we need to interrupt these deliberations so the jury does get the context will he do that I don't know the judge is going to be reviewing this and we'll be back with an update if he does rule on their motion. So it looks like it's now official. There is not going to be a result or a verdict in the Little Dirk case today. Everybody got brought back into the courtroom.
Starting point is 02:52:14 There was a tense moment where people were thinking that it was all over. Apparently a note had been handed in from the jury, and that could have meant that they had a verdict. It didn't in this case. We basically all went into the courtroom. Everything was tense. Everything was, I don't know what was going to happen, okay? But they basically revealed that the jury were asking for more information.
Starting point is 02:52:30 and specifically they were asking for all of the evidence to be handed over to them in digital form. The way they described it, it sounded like they were all crowling around like one or two binders of printed evidence, reading over everything, and it was just too much. Now, they said they're going to try and get an Elmo to them, which I think some sort of like overhead projector type thing, or something that's just going to allow them to basically kind of like, you know, all look at one page together. And there was basically this argument of like, should it be belt and braces? We could probably get them all the digitized evidence by tomorrow morning. We could get an Elmo sooner.
Starting point is 02:52:59 let's get them both. But basically they said the jurors intended to leave today at 4.30 p.m. That was basically the plan. Everyone's basically going to be rushed off their feet. They're going to try and digitize the evidence. The judge basically said, look, could we do it quicker than that? They said maybe in an hour and a half. And the judge basically said, look, I'll tell them that we're going to have everything they need by 8.30 tomorrow morning. And if we get it sooner, great. If we don't, I need to make sure that they've got it. So realistically, I don't know if it would be a mistrial, but it sounds like it's pretty much impossible for the jurors to make a verdict. Like, imagine that.
Starting point is 02:53:29 they say we want all the digital evidence and they say you're getting it tomorrow morning and then they suddenly made a verdict before they got all of that that might be grounds for a mistrial, that might be grounds for something else. But obviously that wouldn't really be too good. So I wouldn't be surprised we probably aren't hearing anything else today. Now we did also hear about this motion that Dirk had filed, you know, about this academics interview. And I'm going to tell you all about that in a separate video, basically. But what I just want to make clear is there's no verdict today. There's been a lot of speculation about if there's a verdict.
Starting point is 02:53:57 everyone's texting me. Has it happened yet? Has it happened yet? When do you think it's going to happen? I'm not making any predictions, all right? One, I think it would be goofy to make predictions, but I don't really know. I'm not basing that on anything. Everybody wants a prediction out of me, but that's not going to happen. Sometimes I get things wrong. I could make a prediction and then backtrack on it later, but I'm really not trying to do that because I don't have no more information than anybody else, right? I don't, I'm not in the jury's minds. I'm not in the jury room. I'm not going to make a prediction based on absolutely nothing. That's just nonsense, right? And look, at the end of the day, I'm only human. I'm making notes. I'm giving you my opinions. I could, I could give you an opinion on how long I think it takes.
Starting point is 02:54:29 I mean, I think, I'm assuming probably this week, but that's the best I could probably tell you. But I think we're going to find out soon. And that might not end up being true. I'm sure people will clip that and say, oh, he said if it goes into next week, then I say he said this week. That's just, I don't really know. Honestly, I don't really know. I'm not making a real prediction. I don't know if it's going to be innocent. I don't know what counts are going to be what. That just is, that's just what it is right now, okay? But that's the latest update. I'll let you know about what the judge said about DJ academics in a minute. And honestly, it was pretty crazy.
Starting point is 02:54:57 The judge is rocking with academics. I'm not going to lie. So we got an update about this last minute emergency motion. It's funny because I was just having a conversation with Sedi Nash about the OTF jam post. And he said, well, if they wanted to, they could file an emergency motion. Next thing we turn around and an emergency motion is being filed, but about something else. This is an emergency motion that is being filed where they was trying to get in that extra clip from DJ academics, where Dirk's said that them slide for von comments and six nine trolling him doesn't bother him now it was very
Starting point is 02:55:26 interesting because we saw dj academics popping out today basically talking about how you know he doesn't what was he said he doesn't agree with what the government did he was trying to say it was scripted that whole interview with dirk it was a skier it was scripted he didn't know nothing when i got on the phone with him last night he denied knowing about little pab's murder and even though the prosecutor said you can tell from the reaction on academic at the time i did not know about murder. I did not connect that what he was saying was, was maybe him hinting towards that. I didn't know. Truthfully. Makes his face that he knew about the murder and he was tapped in. Act denied all of that.
Starting point is 02:56:05 Now, the defense brought up some very interesting case law from the Supreme Court. We're basically saying there was another case where, you know, there was like a letter where part of it made it look like somebody was making an incriminating statement, but there was another part of the letter that actually absolved them. And in that case, the Supreme Court said that you might, you know, complement a segment with another segment that helped provide a better tenor of the statement that the government were using against them. And they basically claimed that, look, they admitted this portion of the clip where, you know, six nine and, sorry, where academics and Dirk are talking about slide for Von getting under his skin, talking about six nine,
Starting point is 02:56:41 basically saying, you know, it was wrong of them to call this a brazen confession of the murder. And they're basically saying that after that was included, they should be able to include another portion where Dirk said six nine stuff didn't actually bother him. Now they basically argued that, you know, the government were able to give this comment like huge weight in their closing argument. As I told yesterday, it was a big part of the closing argument. It was low key. Like academics was low key the mic drop at the end. And they basically said, it was actually the judge that said, look, it's kind of a different story. It's different. Like, it's different if we recall a witness or we bring a witness back for a couple more questions. He said, you remember I let Brian still bring
Starting point is 02:57:15 somebody back and ask a couple more questions, right? But this is different. This is after the closing arguments, you're asking for extra evidence to be brought in at such a late stage in the game while the jurors already have this case. So the judge even argued, he was like, I'm not even sure I've got the authority to start putting extra evidence in there after the jurors' arguments. Sorry, I mean, after the jurors received the case after the closing arguments. And the judge did concede, he said, look, if your argument is right, the most likely outcome is a mistrial if Dirk is found guilty. But he wasn't given any leeway and he wasn't letting it happen. Now, the government kind of clapped back. And they were basically saying,
Starting point is 02:57:49 look, that clip where they're talking about, you know, 6-9 doesn't bother Dirk. He was saying that's not relevant. We was talking about the Sly for Von comments, and they said you don't say Slide for Von no more. They were saying 6-9 ain't really relevant. They're trying to put in this exculpatory statement as just not relevant at all. So look, I'm going to break this down in a little bit more detail in another video, but the judge basically said no.
Starting point is 02:58:09 But he also said that he sympathized with academics. I'll tell you about that next. So we got an update about this. It's tough out here, man. It is tough out here. What's the not saying now? So I'm blocking every page posting Traplore Ross's coverage. His slow turtle security got me confused with YN's who supposedly harassed him outside of court.
Starting point is 02:58:50 When I don't watch nobody's coverage besides academics, instead of apologizing, Ross started collaborating with black creators like a PR cleanup fixes it. If you're making money covering black culture in my orbit, collaborate your audience or you don't exist to me. He says, plus his breath smells like a juice joint. And I'm still deciding if the content and money is worth fighting through that breath. Oh my God, this guy did not. That's the character.
Starting point is 02:59:18 You know, I don't know his full scope of content, but he seems like he definitely always entertaining. Oh, he's live. I'm going to get it regardless, niggins. You ain't got no choice. If you white and you got a black audience, you ain't got no choice. fuck is you talking about go to your people talk about what the fuck y'all talk about
Starting point is 02:59:43 that we're not interested in you're talking about our shit and our people I'm obligated to your audience regardless that's my motherfucking attitude I'm entitled to my people fuck wrong with y'all that's my motherfucking attitude
Starting point is 02:59:58 so when they take hey hey go show denied some love he got 59 people over there come on man go show him some love real quick get up in that live go show him some love come on man He's been putting work. He's been putting at work.
Starting point is 03:00:08 I know y'all have all the type of comments about him, but show him some love. You've got to spread the love to everybody, you know? Stop supporting him. I'm not saying stop supporting him. What I'm saying is you're obligated to share that. Bitch, you're not going to have a whole chunk of black people and try to act like I don't exist when I need a... I just don't want to make this a race issue, y'all. I think Trapp has done a good job.
Starting point is 03:00:29 I think he's putting a lot of work. I think the Knott's doing a good job, too. I don't want to do racial lines with this white creator, black creator. I don't, I personally don't want to do it. But let's show Denots some love, honestly. And come around and make money out for us and tell us that we can't make money out for our own people. And we can't be in touch with our own people. Fuck you, bitch-ass, nigger.
Starting point is 03:00:49 That's, I'm entitled to it, bitch. There you're talking about. I'm fucking entitled to it. And ain't nobody going to tell you as raw as me. But they ain't got the confidence like me, motherfucker. There you go. Adam 22, no DJ Black, no trap. None of them. I'm gonna be around.
Starting point is 03:01:09 There we go. 150 people going over there. Go ahead. My content, bitch. Even if I see you, you're doing some goofy shit. If I got to talk about your shitty breath, your body, whatever, nigga, I'm exercising my first amendment. Fuck you, nigga. I'm going to get mine regardless. Yeah, you're going to have to collaborate or you're going to become the content. If you white and black people business.
Starting point is 03:01:27 How about that one? And I'm going to stand on that, bitch. Stand on that shit, nigger. Fuck wrong with all. I'm gonna stand on it. Oh, man, shout out to AK, man. I love you, nigga.
Starting point is 03:01:41 Dare that. Man, AK, I'm half Jamaican, man. Shout out to AK, nigga. You real. You put my perspective. Niggas trying to discredit me. All these niggas, even said he.
Starting point is 03:01:52 Even that nigga said he tried to make a video, say I'm lying about the rule 29 motion. How I'm lying about the motion? When a judge said he's more than likely to grant that motion before he consider a mistrial. How the fuck did I lie about the motion? That niggas some haters, bro. I blocked that niggins said it, bro.
Starting point is 03:02:09 You did some fire shit. By the way, I did speak to people at the trial. That Rule 29 motion, it was mentioned in oral arguments, but it wasn't mentioned. There's no paperwork for it. So that's why they might think Donata is not telling the truth. But he is telling the truth. There was Rule 29 mentioned, just orally.
Starting point is 03:02:27 It hasn't been seen in filing documents yet. That nigger exposed me to other people that fuck with me. I ain't even going to lie. I'd be so busy at the court, yo, getting content to where people be like, oh, A.K. playing. I'm like, really? I'd be busy putting out that content. And he's fair and unbiased, nigga. I'm happy to make it.
Starting point is 03:02:51 He know I'm crazy. You for sure a little crazy. You know he's for sure a little crazy. Because he feels sorry for your lame ass. Thank you. Thank you, A.K., for feeling sorry for me. Thank you for showing empathy to another brother. Because y'all motherfuckers don't have that going on.
Starting point is 03:03:07 nigga, I'm gonna still take the court transcripts, and I'm still breaking out better than all of them. None of them niggas don't know law like me. I don't get a fuck what dirt is around. I don't get a fuck by then. I'm getting to the meat. The meat is what matter at the end, nigga. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 03:04:30 Of course. Muted like always, huh? No, what I was saying is that, uh, uh, Sluza did not, you guys go check him out. Honestly, go check him out. he's he's a cool creator he got his quirks about him like everybody they all got their quirks about him you get what i'm saying like trap trap has done a million documentaries about all of this stuff he's kind of like he's like vawny in a sense pause like not to disrespect him but he listens to information and he thinks about all the coverage he's done and he's correcting stuff
Starting point is 03:05:05 that he probably knows better than the lawyers right when in reality it's not about what you know what you could prove. We've said that a million times. So there's a little bit quirks about, you know, Traplow Ross. You'll get a legal perspective from maybe a Lisa or you might get more of a legal perspective from somebody like Mo Gagnon, the lawyer for workers guy. And of course, you might get a real nigga perspective that's a little bit mixed with legal from Sedi Nash. The point is, I don't feel like I'm doing any of these guys a favor. And I want to make it very clear and abundantly clear.
Starting point is 03:05:36 I don't think I'm doing any of them a favor. I think one hand washes the other. And in content creation, I think they're doing their part, and I think I'm doing my part. I think my part is to make sure I'm sharing my platform. I'm shouting them out. I'm giving them credit for being on the ground. And when they put up videos, I get to use, that's their content. That is their piece of work in that they had to pay for room, travel, expend time, sit in the courtroom, taking notes.
Starting point is 03:06:04 So it should be an even and fair exchange. So, you know, of course, you know, if I shout out a content creator, you don't rock with it. It's all good. But remember, everybody in this, I hope everybody at least gets a couple more supporters, finds, you know, they're, you know, you got to find your people, right? And just keep building. So I appreciate all the content creators. And they're not, I know sometimes you look frustrated.
Starting point is 03:06:28 We talk about your shit and sometimes we disagree with you. But shit, you're in this trial, you were pretty good at being one of the quickest. you gave us things to discuss and I appreciate it, you know? Of course, you do your thing. You know, you're kind of crazy, bro, but it is what it is. Right?
Starting point is 03:06:45 Okay. All good. All right. We are trying to see if anything else is going on. Of course, there is... Here we go. Who is... No, we played that already.
Starting point is 03:07:03 Here we go. Oh, we didn't play this. I think we didn't play this. I think we did this. Figure out here, another update. I wanted to let you know that I had mentioned that there was a, not a question, but a note from the jurors wanting to know about digital evidence. I had referenced the binders. They got a binder full, or binders, full of
Starting point is 03:07:21 documents to review. And they wanted to know if there's any way they could look at it in a digital format instead of this paper in binders. And someone had recommended, well, you could use the Elmo. The Elmo is this machine, like a, that's kind of like an overhead projector and device so they could view documents. And the parties were thinking, nobody knows how to work that. And what they decided is we're going to be able to compile all the paper documents into one digital device or thumb drive and send it back to them and the Elmo. And so they're going to get all of that. It's going to take them about an hour to put it together.
Starting point is 03:07:58 The jury's going to go home. Tomorrow they will have the Elmo and all the evidence in digital form to review. So what does that mean? No verdict today. They are still going to be working tomorrow, and we will see how long it takes. I'll be back with some more updates soon. Hey, guys, Lisa Figaro here. Yeah, I'm not too sure if we're going to get, like, an update on what the vote is looking like,
Starting point is 03:08:21 who's maybe in one particular side of the argument as opposed to the other. Remember, during the Diddy trial, I don't know if you guys remember, it was supposedly told, I don't know if maybe we could Google that. it was told to the to the judge that they needed further explanation on one of the counts and that was the outstanding count
Starting point is 03:08:45 in what they were mostly divided on, meaning that for the rest of the counts they were pretty much agreed upon. And that's when we knew the ending was near. It came to, you know, a lot of people made the predictions and I made the prediction
Starting point is 03:09:02 that, you know what, if they're all divided no, if they're all in agreement with everything but one count because we knew this count was connected, this count and maybe this count, we realized that, hey, listen, it's no longer them being in agreement that this is a RICO. So the RICO is probably out the window. And come to find out,
Starting point is 03:09:27 the question was about sex trafficking and Cassie. And that was the last thing, did carry significant amount of time, but they ultimately voted no, that that was, uh, Did he was not guilty of sex trafficking of Cassie, also sex trafficking of Jane Doe, also the racketeer in charge, which he was a sole member. And then we found out a verdict came down soon after. It came down in the afternoon. And, um, not too sure if I remember the date of that, but I remember we had went into a second week. We had went into a second week. The jury probably got the deliberation or got the case around like Wednesday.
Starting point is 03:10:08 And I think Wednesday and Thursday it was what it was. And then pretty much Monday was off to the races. And maybe Monday we didn't get it. How many days was the – let me Google it. I don't know why I'm over here guessing. How many days – hold on. By the way, is this guy still alive? Is he?
Starting point is 03:10:27 Oh, he is. How many days? Did the jury deliberate in the Diddy trial? Let's go here. Let's see. Oh, it was for, oh, 13 hours spread across three days. Anyway, I remember Lauren Conlin had showed up to my studio. And we were thinking that, all right, you know what?
Starting point is 03:11:00 The jury doesn't seem that close to a verdict and we were going to do our thing. she gets a call or she gets like the text because she was on the media list, hey listen, the jury has reached a verdict. Get back to the courthouse in 30 minutes. We do this, or at least my studios are in, you know, where it's at, but it's about 30 minutes away. And I know she ran out of here and she tried to get back to the courthouse to be able to see the verdict being read.
Starting point is 03:11:29 But if we're thinking about 13 hours, a little over 13 hours, Do we think this is going to be more or less? Chad, today, 8.30. I would imagine they're going to break at 4.30. 830 to 4.30. How many hours is that? 830, 930, 1030, 1130, 1230, 1.30, 130, 230, 130, 230, 30, 330, 430. That's 8 hours, huh?
Starting point is 03:12:03 Why am I count on my fingers like I'm like a sped, huh? Why am I count like I'm a sped? But eight hours, correct? It's eight hours, right? Somebody said, bro, you're growing as fuck. I'm sorry, man. It's been a long day. You know, I'm a little bit off the Tos.
Starting point is 03:12:25 It's a lot of stuff. But eight hours, right? Somebody said, take an IQ test. You want to take one? No, they started this morning at 8.30. They're going to end at 4.30 Eastern time. which actually technically it would have been over already. It should be done now.
Starting point is 03:12:40 Actually, they're done now. So that is 830 to 430 is 8 hours. Hmm. Remember the ditty case. They deliberated for a little over 13 hours. So technically if we're following that case, we would expect a verdict tomorrow seeing that eight hours today,
Starting point is 03:13:05 five hours tomorrow, is going to bring them to a little bit after lunch, and this is if it's the same type of time. Now, here's the thing. A couple important things. This case was simpler. This case was shorter. This case is much smaller in volume than the ditty case.
Starting point is 03:13:29 However, it might take more time to deliberate, seen as the ditty case, even though some of the charges, especially the RICO, the racketeering, that did carry a potential life sentence. In this particular case, most of the charges against Dirk carry life. So maybe they take a little bit more time,
Starting point is 03:13:49 you know, as opposed to, by the time, once they knocked out the main things for Diti that he wasn't going to get over 20 years of life, them agreeing on the man act. He got two man act charges for the prostitution with Cassie and the prostitution with Jane Doe. Once, you know, they're looking at that like, bro, you're getting five to ten years.
Starting point is 03:14:09 Fuck it. You know what I mean? They're going to run the concurrent. You're good. So they're probably not arguing over that a long time. The thing with Dirk, they might argue a long time because the majority of his charges carry life. So anyway, if we're going to follow the timeline of Diti's trial, five hours more, plus the eight today, we should probably get a verdict tomorrow. How many, I want to ask, how many days did the jury deliberate in the, let's say, O block six trial?
Starting point is 03:14:37 I know I notice it who I think it is I notice in who I think it is Hey you better stop playing bro stop playing What? For real Stop, stop playing bro What happened?
Starting point is 03:14:49 Really? Because you're going to put yourself In the pickle, bro, stop right And shit you're doing stop They look with everything that's They did What you plan
Starting point is 03:14:57 They're going to fuck around And have you on their standing On the appeal And then you up there Up on the old And they fuck around And tell the lie Then you go stop playing
Starting point is 03:15:06 bro Leave that shit alone bro. What are you talking? You're going to get up a nigga because they're in court battling over whatever you just said. Now, the judge has denied it, right? But I already know what's going to happen.
Starting point is 03:15:17 Lemma, I told you this. You just grow up appeal. Here goes the thing, bro. We and you both know, niggas said what he said. That's on him. I'm tired of niggas want to blame us because we come out of their mouth. No, no.
Starting point is 03:15:31 I ask you a question. I'm not taking blame. The point of what I said, what I said is that there's saying, that based on a look on my face. Again, well, okay, why are they saying that? The look on my face, I had no idea that he was talking about a murder if he was. I didn't.
Starting point is 03:15:48 No, no. So them saying that I was doing, that's not true. No, that ain't what we're talking about. Okay. We're talking about, they can't say what you knew or didn't know anyway. Okay. We're talking about they're saying somewhere today, you mentioned it was a script that you scripted. Now here it go.
Starting point is 03:16:06 If you say that, Nick, get you up there, and you like, yeah, like, I'm like, where the script at? Like, bro, what I'm trying to tell you is, don't put yourself in a trick bad because another nigga trick bad yourself. And how you ask you on the stand on some perjury shit. No, no, absolutely. Listen to that. Hey, hey, one thing for showing two things for certain. You're never getting academics in federal court lying. Okay. Two to put my side. No, absolutely. No, no, no. Again, you know, I don't want to. I don't want to speak more on that because I know exactly
Starting point is 03:16:38 where this is going to go but the idea of a script like is it like a Stephen Spielberg script like again there's an explanation for that but you know if it gets there I'm saying bro stop listen I don't want you pissing them people off because one thing I learned in life
Starting point is 03:16:55 us as human beings we always do majority of it half of it if not none of it you don't want these people fucking with you all of a sudden looking at you because all of a sudden they feel like you didn't play with you.
Starting point is 03:17:10 Stay out of them people lame, bro. Fuck dirt. You see what I'm saying? It just gets bigger than all this thing. Let's start looking at it. I'm doing everything right. Is there anything, any little thing? Let's watch this, nigga.
Starting point is 03:17:22 You don't need that shit in your life, bro. All of them tell you. Them gums ain't working, bro. Fuck them niggas. Fuck them niggas is not working, bro. Stay your ass over there on your fucking island and don't be crossing the river. to where they feel like, okay, what's going on?
Starting point is 03:17:38 Is this nigga the one bringing them to the ammunition? Who is this nigga? Is he a threat? Stay your ass over there because now, remember I told you this? They're going to use whatever you said today from grounds for appeal. And then they're going to want you to come in and get on that stand and say, this was a script. Me and you both know you ain't going to do that because you ain't fool enough to put yourself in the trick back
Starting point is 03:18:01 to catch one to three on some bullshit. Uh-uh. Now, I'm calling you as a brother right now, bro. Let a dumb street nigger deal with his dumb street decisions. That goes for me, him, and any nigga, everybody else. You stay your square ass and squareville, bro, and smile. This is a brother telling you. I wouldn't even ask you to get up there and fucking make some no, nigga. I'm not going to, you know, act.
Starting point is 03:18:29 Look out for my family if you can, bro. That type of shit. Don't fuck all that, bro. Fuck these niggins. It's another like the other one, bro. Now we're going to sit back and watch Jay Trent and them and his team do some telling them. They're up next, November. Jay Prince, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 03:18:45 Yeah, the takeoff trial, November. That's next. Yeah, they got 50. They got 50 motherfuckers taking that stand at their stand. Yeah. By the way, Wax, thank you. And I definitely appreciate your reaching out. It's not the way, bro.
Starting point is 03:19:06 No, 100% and I'm trying to. The only thing, as I said, and I think the judge affirmed it. My main thing is my state of mind, and I've spoke to that. I never knew. It ain't even about you. It ain't even about you. It's about. This is what it's about.
Starting point is 03:19:23 Fuck. Academic, spatial expression. Yeah. Fuck how he looked. Fuck all that. What it's about is that that nigga said, I bet you ain't been hearing that. more.
Starting point is 03:19:36 That's what it's about. After this pop shit happened, that's what it's about. Fuck, your facial expression. No, none of that she ain't mean nothing. It's about him saying you ain't been hearing that no more, huh?
Starting point is 03:19:51 See what I'm saying? That's what that's about. We all read between the lines. You ain't been hearing that no more. Here what? Slop or King Byr. Why? Because the little pop nigga ain't kind of unaligned. By the way,
Starting point is 03:20:04 all that's about, bro. By the way, I didn't know, I didn't know who Pop was at that point. At that interview, I didn't know. I learned about that, Bob, from Brick Baby. I didn't know what the nigga was, is it. And I believe the Brick Baby interview was after that. I mean, I could look at the timing, but I think, because, bro, why would I know little pop, no disrespect?
Starting point is 03:20:28 Yo, so, yeah, it's, listen, bro. I'm your brother. I, you know, I'm going to tell you. I'm wondering if niggas going to tell you, you know that. Why I'm going to tell you, right? and here they're not. I know. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:20:41 You know what I'm saying? My brother, my brother, be a little irritated with me and good. Hold on, hold on. And I guess I'll address it directly. In no way, shape, in shape,
Starting point is 03:20:53 of form, I think the way you're looking at it. See, they found emotion. No, they found emotion with your name today. You're looking at it from the aspect of a brother. You're saying, hey,
Starting point is 03:21:04 don't get yourself fucked up by these people. using your words to try to get Dirk a second or third or fourth chance. No, I'll get you on a stand. Yes. No. Yeah. Whatever Dirk got to do, that's cool.
Starting point is 03:21:20 I'm saying that type of shit, they'll subpoena you and make you get on that stank. No, I know. And here's the thing. You know, obviously that's not, I don't want to necessarily be on a stand, but I'll tell you this. One thing for sure, two things for certain. as I am academics, the civilian, again, I'm not OTF jam, I'm not your mans, I'm not whatever, I'm not getting on no stand and perjured myself. Remember that.
Starting point is 03:21:48 So, so again, you know, obviously I've said what I said, but, you know, I'll leave it there. There needs no more explanation in terms of, you know, like I can sit here and be like, oh, well, when I say it's a script, I mean X, Y, Z, I'm not going to. You could just simply say he was trolling when you said that. Shit. Why? As I said, I'm going to leave that where I left it. Okay?
Starting point is 03:22:15 All right, bro. But just no. Hold on, no. Just know. Of course. I'm going to text you. I'm going to text you when I'll come there. I got to come see this madness.
Starting point is 03:22:23 But I will say this. I appreciate you for what you said. Remember this. I will never, listen, you know, I hope to never be on the stand. But if I'm on the stand, I ain't never going to be up there telling a lie. I'm not doing no wise I'm not especially not with the feds
Starting point is 03:22:39 it wouldn't happen it wouldn't happen let me know let me know we're down here all right brother all right shout to whack I think whack is you know kind looking out for me and stuff
Starting point is 03:22:51 yeah I guess that's worth mentioning chat I'm not you know for the people who might think I've seen a few people say oh act feels guilty so act is shot no the reality of everything
Starting point is 03:23:07 I've said and my disappointment with how Mr. Morris used my interview or used or attributed certain, you know, oh, AC knew this. No, I didn't like that. And in interviews that I did or an interview I've done, when I say a script, again, I'm not talking about necessarily, of course, a script in terms of like a Steven Spilberg, but yeah, it's content.
Starting point is 03:23:37 Niggis is doing shit for dramatic effect. So, again, I'll leave that there. we'll see what kind of comes of all of this. You know, I don't know what's going to come of it, of it. But, you know, for the people who might be thinking, damn, acer, you like trying to jump on the sword, you know, obviously I don't consider it a sword. You know, I could have just sat here quiet, right?
Starting point is 03:24:01 And just watch them try to slam dunk on Dirk using content that I've done, except they're attributing and interpreted it in a way to. that wasn't true. I could just say nothing, you know? And I see some people said, no, act, you feel bad because people are going to get on you. I've been telling you, I don't give a fuck if these niggas do interview. I think I got the biggest interviews in my hard drive.
Starting point is 03:24:26 I'm not releasing it. I got the conversations. I'm not releasing it. So it's not like, you know, I'm never one you could say I'm thirsty for interviews. So even if people want to look at this and be like, oh, man, dirt got jammed up and they're using an interview list. now fuck with act well that ain't been the thing
Starting point is 03:24:44 that's really getting me because every time I do an interview with one of the artists that I know would go viral I don't put it out I got several birdman interviews several young boy interviews I got a whole Drake conversation
Starting point is 03:24:58 that's not necessary interviews it's a conversation um who else play word card none of those came out I'm not you know and I'm not dying to put none of them out either
Starting point is 03:25:07 because at a certain point I know my value is is making sure that the artists that I connect with sure they look good as well. You know, it's the reason why even with this interview, I sent it to Dirk's team. I say, yo, yo, let me know anything that you want to
Starting point is 03:25:21 not do or whatever. And yeah, that was it. So, appreciate Wack. And I think he was calling me saying, yo, act, bro. Naga, I don't know if you're feeling guilty, let Dirk, if Dirk is going to go down for what he done said on podcasts,
Starting point is 03:25:41 on what he done said on songs on social media in his text messages do not feel guilty let him go down for what he got to do because that's what he did and i'm not here to save dirk i'm not here to save durk i'm just tell you the prosecutor i hate to use jane's term overwhooped by basically using my content claiming that he knew what i was thinking no you don't bro i've been like divorced from warren shirac I'm covering Drake and niggas like that. You think I'm still, like, Traplow Ross knows more about Chicago than me at this point. So it's like when Dirk said that, I don't really, I didn't know about Little Pop, honestly.
Starting point is 03:26:29 Of course I heard about stuff with Cuando, like, oh, Cuando did a show or couldn't do a show. I heard that, of course. But Cuando was untouched, alive. Okay. And I thought Kwondo had other ops I didn't go to Lottie I didn't connect
Starting point is 03:26:46 because it was in LA I didn't connect that shit dirt but anyway whatever man um yeah what's the smell yeah what's the smell
Starting point is 03:26:54 anyway somebody said Wack flashed that badge at AK you think that's what happened I feel like whack like hit me with the badge
Starting point is 03:27:11 like your act stop fucking playing oh my God black tweets give me one second okay Brian Steele says I think there's a fair resolution for the interview with banks and academics
Starting point is 03:27:54 Banks clearly denied and distanced himself who was announced as a confession I made an objection you told me to sit down it's not a fair ascertainment if I know the totality of the conversation okay let's just keep reading
Starting point is 03:28:16 Chris O'Connor says the government put great weight in the DJ academics clip and went on about it. The government showed a portion. They presented it as a brazen confession of his guilt. I committed murder because I was so pissed off at Takashi 6-9 in the slide for Vaughn comment.
Starting point is 03:28:38 There's a fair resolution for the interview of DJ academics and Mr. Banks. Mr. Banks clearly this, okay, we read that. Chris O'Connor says, the prosecution used a vantage point of these academics saying he clearly saw. I agree. I did not clearly see. And that's not me picking up for Derek.
Starting point is 03:28:54 I hear what Wack is saying. Like, you bro, I do not want to be up on a stand. I don't want to be brought up in his trial at all. I don't want to be seen as somebody who's going against a prosecutor. I don't. But it's flagrantly false if people really believe I acknowledge in that moment that he admitted a murder to me. I did not.
Starting point is 03:29:17 Again, maybe the, the pub conversation that came out with Brick Baby on No Jumper was before. But cognizantly, I know. never really tapped in like, oh, Dirk slid. Because in my mind, if Dirk slid, Cuando was dead. But Cuando was alive and well.
Starting point is 03:29:35 So I'm like, you don't, I didn't know who Lil'Pob was. So I'm thinking, if Dirk slid, either Cuando was dead or Timothy Lease, Little Tim is dead. They're both alive as hell during the interview, girl. Chris O'Connor bring up Beach Aircraft Corp. versus Rainey.
Starting point is 03:29:54 This is the 1988, Supreme Court ruling that evaluations and opinions with official public reports are admissible as long as they are trustworthy and reliable. The judge Fitzgerald says, I don't know if I have the power to admit evidence after the case has been given. The remedy would be to call a mistrial. And by the way, again, you know, I'm not trying to challenge the prosecutors here. I don't want people fucking with me. I'm good. But, you know, obviously, I'm not trying to encourage a mistrial or none. I just didn't like what they used me. Prosecutor Moore says the clip shows whether to Kaki, 6-9s bother him.
Starting point is 03:30:30 And if Slide 4-Varvon bothers him, he's not even accepting the premise that Slide-Farvon is a thing. This is the same guy, academics, who interviewed 6-9 and who later asked Dirk about Slide-Farvon. Now, that there, Morris is telling the truth. That is a factual what he just said. I interviewed 6-9, and that was a conversation that came up, and I interviewed Dirk, and I did ask about that conversation.
Starting point is 03:30:55 What is What I think Was just wrong is him saying by the look on my face In regards to a comment Or Dirk doing whatever motion It was clear that I knew I didn't know
Starting point is 03:31:16 In respect to Wackbrow I'm not picking up for Dirk I didn't know I didn't know Dirk again Let's say a legend I didn't know Durk was confessing to a crime. So they could have used that clip and not used and said what I think.
Starting point is 03:31:36 Also, in terms of the whole like scripting, I'm making content. Of course things are overdone. Of course things are, you know, embellished. That's what scripted is. Okay. Dirk's dad, Dante Banks, did give an interview after the court hearing today. Let's hear, it's a 23 second thing. Okay, so we get to find out what the nonsense about motion or Rule 29.
Starting point is 03:33:04 The motion for Rule 29 is still alive. Again, it's been only mentioned in oral arguments. It has not been mentioned in actual filings back and forth. Hey, guys, Lees-Figuero here. I wanted to give you an update on the Rule 29 motion. By the way, the rules for Rule 29 motion is that it could be filed any time from when the prosecution rests this case, So 14 days after a verdict is delivered. Because it was mentioned orally, the judge could just have oral arguments or they could have each, you know, each sides submit what's either call memorandums in support of or like, you know, briefs.
Starting point is 03:33:48 It's not an appeal, so it's necessary not briefs. But memorandums in support of their motion to admit or deny. and the, you know, the judge might not take it or not. Here's the thing. Supposedly the judge said verbally before he grants, right? So before he puts himself on the line, remember, a Rule 29 is a motion to, it's a motion to grant an acquittal on a particular charge. And so the judge would grant an acquittal on a particular charge that the process,
Starting point is 03:34:26 that the jurors would not have to agree on it or decide on it. The judge made it clear rather than him doing that and put himself on the line, okay? And I forgot if this is appellable. I forgot if this particular motion is appellable. But anyway, rather than do that, he did mention that he would rather lean in the favor of a mistrial rather than him start dismissing charges.
Starting point is 03:34:56 So it looks like this is definitely a long shot if you didn't know. Anyway, let me let Lisa speak on that. We talked about that. Someone had asked me, academics asked me about what I thought about the Rule 29 and whether the judge was going to take it under submission or advisement. And sure enough, the parties, they want a full-blown hearing. They wanted an opportunity to make their arguments.
Starting point is 03:35:18 And the judge said, fine, but we can't do it today. And so that's going to be scheduled October, November, down the road. So that still remains to be seen. It's pending, but it's not totally dead in the water. Hey, guys. Lees Figaro here. I wanted to. Okay.
Starting point is 03:35:57 Oh, man. Let's talk about DJ academics becoming the headline for, oh, my God, Chad. Yo, chat, am I going through it this week? Yo, chat, let me say this. You know, I take one vacation a year. I went to DR. Like, you know, I told you, second half of the year, I'm locked in. We're locked in.
Starting point is 03:36:18 I've been trying to stream as much as I can. You know, we went on a vacation after we completed. What happened this time around? I forgot. I forgot. The Diddy trial was last year, right? Last year was Diddy trial, and I put my vacation right after. I've never felt like maybe I need a second vacation.
Starting point is 03:36:42 Actually, I'm told him. Hell, no, hell, no, I'm good. But, Chad, hell of a week. my internet's fucked up all type of scuffs stuff every meeting I gotta do is this week we come and we do to stream
Starting point is 03:36:58 and now the court proceedings that we're covering remotely now turns to be a court proceeding about us ridiculous okay Taylor Paris says
Starting point is 03:37:11 let's talk about these academics become the headline for the Dirk trial Taylor priest of Los Angeles Magazine and I'm outside the courthouse of Lil Dirk's murder for higher trial where the jury is still deliberating We did receive a note today from the jury requesting all paper exhibits to be given to them in a digital format,
Starting point is 03:37:30 which the judge is having the government put together for them. But it seems like today we are not going to be getting a verdict, and we will have to come back again tomorrow to see if the jury what they have to say. For now, I want to discuss this DJ academics video. We've heard about it so many times. It was brought up by the prosecution a little bit with their witnesses, but then it was brought up again in their closing arguments. And they made a big point about this video. They played this video where DJ academics asked Lil Durk in this interview. He says, you know, these slide for comment, these slide for Vaughn comments,
Starting point is 03:38:04 and this is after the murder of Savaya Robinson, after the attempted hit on Coando Rondo, they said, you know, these slide for Vaughn comments, I don't, you don't see them as much anymore, do you? And Dirk's like, yeah, I don't, I don't see those comments anymore for some reason. I don't know why. It must be something in the water. And then he says, we differ in the rack. And DJ academic looks up and the prosecution kind of takes that look and says, that's him being in complete shock.
Starting point is 03:38:32 It is proof that is an admission from Dirk saying he was the reason why Savaya Robinson is dead. He shut people up about these comments and they were saying like, you look at the podcasters face it. He's in shock. And the defense is saying this is completely out of context. They are saying that while they're saying that this should be. never been used as much of a centerpiece in the rebuttal as it was. And they're saying because it was used as a raisin, quote, raisin confession alleged by the prosecution in their closings. They're saying that they never got a chance to respond. And so they once again filed a motion to have additional
Starting point is 03:39:10 pieces of that interview submitted into evidence. They've already on August 31st, they asked for this video to be added to provide context to the interview. And the judge did deny that motion. But they put in a second emergency motion today after hearing the prosecution and their rebuttal and the way that they used this video in their closing arguments. So they called this, the defense called this not fair. Christy O'Connor for the defense said that because the prosecution used this to tie their entire case together to again say that this was a quote, raisin admission of guilt, they're saying is it's not fair and due to Rule 106, which states if a portion is used out of context in someone's, in a clip or someone's, someone's words are taken out of context, you then are
Starting point is 03:40:00 able to provide the rest of that statement or the rest of that admission and to give further context for the jury. So under Rule 106, they want this admitted to evidence, evidence, and the judge once again denied that motion. He said someone, someone has to be able to, has to go last. And he said, yes, you didn't get to respond to the rebuttal, but that's just how it works. The defense doesn't get to respond to rebuttals. The government gets the last word. And he's saying it's, he said he didn't see it the video as an admission of guilt. He said the prosecution is allowed to call it an admission of guilt in their closing statements. They said they're allowed to stretch the truth in that way. However, it's up to the jury, a re who he's calling like reasonable people
Starting point is 03:40:43 to make a reasonable decision as to whether or not that is indeed a confession. And the judge essentially said, I didn't see a confession in that video, and it's up to the judge to the jury to make that interpretation as well and see what they think. And the judge, the defense left the court making sure their stance on this is clear. Brian Steele got up and said, I want to back up my co-counsel that we think this is wrong. We think this is unjust. And we think that we need the rest of this clip, the rest of this context in order to give the best events to our client. Um, and the video that we, that the defense is wanting to add. Um, it has Dirk saying he calls these life urban comments the trolling and clickbait. He says that it's a way for people to stay
Starting point is 03:41:29 relevant making these posts and he said he doesn't engage and when DJ academics ask, why don't you engage with these comments? He said he knows who's behind him. He knows the people behind him. He just sits back and watches because at the end of the day he's trying to turn hate into love. And I think that last portion turning hate into love is really what the defense wanted the jury to see. But the judge acknowledged, I think the judge has been online. I think he saw DJ academics response because he brought that up. He said, I see why DJ academics is furious about this video being used in court. And I myself would not want a video of me used in court as proof that someone committed a murder is essentially what he said. So the judge did acknowledge
Starting point is 03:42:09 DJ academics posts. He heard the defense's argument and he did deny the motion. He said he will continue to review the case law, but for now, we will not be seeing that video given to the jury. Chad. Oh, man. We played this, right? Let's see if we could get a few people leaving a courthouse. Oh, okay, it looked like they've moved from the courthouse. Is this today?
Starting point is 03:43:41 No, that's six days ago. That's a week ago. Did they have any? That's so a week ago. shout to the judge I mean shout to Michael Morris too I you know I think he understands this is the wildest case man
Starting point is 03:44:29 the fucking wildest case we've ever seen all right guys so we've got evidence by tomorrow morning received the case after the closing argument he said our six nine doesn't bother him he's Beverly Senate he didn't realize that where the hit went down I'm still a little bit skeptical all right but at the same time that's what he said the prosecution's inference that academics knew everything
Starting point is 03:44:56 about the murder he knew everything about the murder he knew what Dirk was referring to when he said they don't slyper. They don't say sly for one no more after Pab's murder. Now, I spoke to academics on a stream yesterday and he denied knowing any. You know what the crazy thing is? I think I think Trapp think I'm like trolling. Bro, I didn't know. I do think that supposedly, um, yeah, I forgot when the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 03:45:17 brick baby and pop, brick baby, poetic flaco, little pop thing. When did that clip happen? look okay okay so it looks like that happened in March 24 bro I interviewed
Starting point is 03:45:35 Dirk in 23 bro I'm gonna be honest with you I did see the news I reported the news of the death of Cuando's cousin
Starting point is 03:45:44 bro how the hell would I know that's that's Dirk that's how when Dirk said yeah yeah I had no idea bro check me out uh huh dollars in cash
Starting point is 03:46:13 he would be mobbing with his local friends like Phoenix and Big Tim, seemingly with an army of people watching his back throughout the area. What's Mabba love, bro? What's what I know? What's gonna'all? Boy, you messed my Auntie Number yesterday, two night. She hit for my birthday, she played 30 thundits, she plays 25 tickets. That really supposed to be a hundred and fifty right.
Starting point is 03:47:12 Yeah, you mess with your number. Yeah, this big little Tim's. Facts me. In this live, Cuondo is behaving like he truly runs the city, even proceeding to smoke a cigarette on live inside of the convenience store. At one point, Cuando actually, actually starts winning at a game, even calling up Lil Tim in the store saying that he's up big money. Call Lil'10, I need something.
Starting point is 03:47:33 Call Lil' Tim, big play. Big play. Call Little Tim, we up. Call Little Tim, we up. Call little Tim. Right day. White day. Call little Tim.
Starting point is 03:47:51 Why you mean calling me? No, you're not. No, you're not. Yeah, I'm in that hitting baby, check me out. Uh-huh. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 03:48:09 They play, what it's doing? What I hit for? Man, 30,000. Speaking of the existence. Okay. No, too. Stop playing, nah. Stop playing, now.
Starting point is 03:48:36 Come on, now. Jowana. I ain't I ain't been in here five minutes and I ain't hit that Juana they're gonna give you this again watch out don't touch nothing you touch something you're gonna pay for it I ain't no money and ain't no pressure no money but you I'm gonna scam this man how you gonna scan it do something to it all right how much that is three hundred and thirty dollars see money you hit my birthday for $330.
Starting point is 03:49:12 It's interesting because you can actually really see the close friendship that Kondo and Tim had in these... Damn, my bet I keep fucking up with the echo. I'm sorry. Little moments. On May the 11th, 2022, Lil Tim doesn't interview with Fuchsia's TV, where he spoke on the Vaughn situation. He didn't go too in detail about the events of that night, but he did boldly claim that he did what any good friend would want them to do. No matter where you at, like, he would have wanted a dick. partner to be their time. So while Cuondo and Tim were out here living life and speaking openly about their thoughts
Starting point is 03:49:44 on this situation, behind the scenes, Quando's ops from different cities were making connections and plotting against him and his people. In May, S-8K members seen on Instagram Live with Oblock members who were friends with King Von. It seemed like Lil Durk was still on the hunt and looking for ways to potentially get his revenge on Cuondo or Lil Tim for the death of King Von. And Durk wasn't even keeping this a secret. On June 3, 22, Lil Durk says that he's still trying to nail him, i.e, kill Quant. On the track Keep Dissing too with Boston Ritchie.
Starting point is 03:50:12 Dirk would go on to liken himself to King Vonn, rapping, Bro Got Bodies, he's a demon child, I'm brothers to a devil. After the slide for Von Trend had become so popular, it seemed to be common knowledge that Lil Durk and the people around him were openly trying to have Kondo Rondo killed. But despite their earlier sentiments, Kwondo and Tim weren't all about the negativity. In August 2022, in an effort to give back to his community, Lil Tim did a bookbag drive in a Savannah church.
Starting point is 03:50:36 Unfortunately, despite making small positive steps, the negative of gang life in Savannah would prevail. A few days before a scheduled trip to Los Angeles, one of Cuondo's close friends Fendi is killed in a shooting on West 38th Street. After cops responded to reports of shots fired, around 3 a.m. on the 800 block of West 38th Street, they would find 22-year-old Fendi,
Starting point is 03:50:55 real-named Phoenix Odom, dead at the scene. Right now, a man dead and police are scrambling to figure out who killed him. Here's a look at the crime scene on the west side of Savannah, where you can see investigators gathering evidence for hours overnight. Now, that shooting happened
Starting point is 03:51:09 early this morning on West 38th and Bullock Streets. As soon as we learn more about what led to that shooting, we will bring it to you. Unsurprisingly, Cuando's enemies would mock the death of his close friend. But despite the tragedy that took place in Savannah, Cuando and his team would press on with their trip to Los Angeles, where initially they'd seemingly be having a good time, as Cuando and Lil Pab would post clips to social media, showing them in the back of a car, popping a bottle, and enjoying the good life.
Starting point is 03:51:34 However, unfortunately, it was here in Los Angeles when tragedy would strike again. On August 19th, 2022, just before 5.30pm, while sitting in their SUV, Cuando Rondo and Lil Pab would be the targets of an assassination attempt. As three masked gunmen would approach Cuando Rondo's car whilst parked at gas station right near popular LA tourist destination, the Beverley Centre, where these shooters would open fire. The police chief would later describe the shooters as having gotten out of a white car in dark clothing, shooting, and fleeing immediately after the shooting in what seemed to be a professional hit job. They gasped up their vehicle and as they were getting into their vehicle,
Starting point is 03:52:07 a white car approached from the alley. Three men got out of that car. They were in all-dark clothing. They approached, fired numerous shots, and then left in that white car going eastbound in the alley north of Beverly. It does appear that we don't see any kind of argument or anything go on beforehand,
Starting point is 03:52:26 so clearly these men came here with a mission in mind. KCL News would give viewers a good look at the alley where the shots were fired from, and Fox 11 News Los Angeles would break down the entire series of events, explaining that the shooting took place at the gas station, which was followed by an attempt to flee by Kwondo's entourage, where they drove a short distance before pulling over to seek medical attention for Lil Pab, who was hit in the shooting. Once that SUV is hit by the gunfire, they take off, they hit the gas, and they drive a few blocks away into West Hollywood. They wind up stopping over at Santa Monica and San Vicente, right in the very heart of West Hollywood.
Starting point is 03:52:59 You know, over there by the sheriff's station, also by the West Hollywood Park, they pull over there because the wounds to the man who was hit inside the escalator too severe. he's bleeding, they pull over, 911 is called, paramedics rush in, they take the injured man who's hit by gunfire to the ER, he does not make it, does not survive. This essentially created two separate crime scenes, the scene of the shooting and the scene of where Cuondo's car stopped, with a KTLA-5 helicopter putting surveillance on both of these scenes soon after the incident. According to KCAL, when Cuando's car stopped, a pedestrian flagged down a sheriff deputy who began to help Cuondo and a wounded little Pab in a dramatic scene that was captured on camera by bystanders. And that's where Sheriff Deputies were then flagged down by a pedestrian during rush hour on a Friday,
Starting point is 03:53:41 right around 5.30. They found the victim with a gunshot wound and inside of a black Cadillac escalade. Paramedics rushed him to the hospital. That is where we are told he died. His identity currently being withheld until family is notified. Kondo Rondo would be filmed by passers-by, breaking down at the scene and screaming in disbelief as his wounded friend. and Lil Pab is pulled from the car and given CPR. With this heartbreaking scene, quickly going viral and being broadcast on most major news outlets. Somebody got shot, bro. I'm pressed.
Starting point is 03:54:11 I get it. Can I get some space, please? Hello? Was that the driver? You know they had a driver. Was that the driver? Fortunately, Lil Pab would pass away in hospital as a result of his injuries, leaving Cuondo Rondo devastated, not just at the scene, but with later social media
Starting point is 03:55:27 posts memorializing his close friend and cousin. Lil Pab was one of Cuando's right-hand men, someone who had been there for him during his come-up and stayed by his side when the whole industry turned against him. Pab had now lost his life, highly likely as a direct result of the million-dollar bounty placed on Cuando's head following the killing of King Vonn. Ironically, with Pablo's death coming just a week before he was set to face trial for his 2019 RICO charges. But instead of Pab facing justice, Los Angeles police would now be looking to catch whoever did this brazen and professional murder. This was a brazen and professional hit, with the shooters clearly not caring about the fact that
Starting point is 03:56:00 this took place in broad daylight in a busy tourist district. In fact, this scenario was eerily similar to the murder of FBG Duck by members of King Vons Gang, Oblock. After all, both of these shootings would seemingly take place right in front of popular tourist destinations, in this situation, Los Angeles's Beverly Center. To give you an idea, shots rang out there and right across the street to Beverly Center. Imagine that. 5.30 in the afternoon, incredibly no one else hit by the gunfire. However, in the aftermath of the incident, there would be a lot of conflicting narratives regarding who was responsible. Members of the LA-based gang the Hoover Criminals would be quick to celebrate Cuando's misfortune, no doubt a result of the feud between Cuando and the Hoovers many
Starting point is 03:56:38 years before. Interestingly, after the incident, Post would circulate with captions saying, not Dirks' work, which, if you ask me, is a little bit suspicious. After all, Cuondo had been warned by the Hoosers when he went to LA in 2019, and since he's a member of Savannah's role in 60 crypts and that the Hoover criminals are local enemies of Los Angeles' role in 60s crypts, the Hovers clearly had a grudge against Cuondo since he had been seen making a disrespectful hand sign towards the Hoovers a few years ago. But that was years ago, and at this point, Cuando's beef with the Hoovers seemed much more about social media.
Starting point is 03:57:07 Unlike his beef with the Chicago rappers, which had already claimed the life of King Vaughan. And despite these early reports that the Hoovers were responsible for the shooting, it would actually be friends and associates of King Vaughn who were quick to celebrate the most hard following the killing of Lil Pap. Friends of Vaughn would post pictures of him on IG following the shooting, with some going as far as to say, ain't no time frame on that get back.
Starting point is 03:57:26 Even posting pictures of Cuondo saying it should have been him. King Vaughan and Lil Dirk's DJ DJ Bands would mock Kondo Rondo, taking to Instagram saying that he was signing artists to belt-to-ass records. Belt the ass records, you know what I'm saying? We sign, man. Anybody could get signed, man. That's all you got to do is play crazy out here, get your ass sign, man. O'block member and friend of King Von D. Bands would later be on live in O'block,
Starting point is 03:57:50 along with other gang members, claiming to be smoking Lil Pat. Tell him who we smoking? What's dude name? Little Pah about the P-Doodoo. Meanwhile, Other OTF affiliates would mock Cuondo and tell fans to guess who they're smoking. Seeing me be like, no!
Starting point is 03:58:08 Not 10, man. Y'all are killing me with these nose. No! They're killing me, look at their nose. They're killing me. Y'all killing me with these nose, man, no. Swipe. Guess when we're rolling up this morning?
Starting point is 03:58:28 Huh? Even OTF affiliate Lilvani, who had actually gone back and forth on Clubhouse with both Cuondo and Pab himself, would take to social media to mock Kondo for losing two friends, saying that when it rains it pours and that Kondo should keep his chin up. Despite the disrespect coming from the people who wanted Kondo and his friends dead, Kondo's team would not be discouraged. Lil Tim would post tributes to Pab on his Instagram and his Twitter with a flurry of posts honoring his fallen friend.
Starting point is 03:58:52 In one tweet, Tim tells Pablo to say what's up to Sosa and Stucky in heaven and expressing disbelief about this sudden loss. Lil Pab's brother would also post from his account, saying that he was a real one who stood on business and saying that he's got Kwondo's back forever. Even NBA Youngboy would post twice, seemingly indicating that Get Back was on the way, and saying that he truly wants what's coming to him, but it might take some time, even describing the situation as sad and wicked. Young boy's ominous but tasteful statement would be in stark contrast to the other side. After many of Vaughan's friends had posted disrespectful things on social media towards Cuondo, one person would stand out from them all, taking the disrespect
Starting point is 03:59:27 to a whole new level. A few days after the shooting, a Chicago black disciple named Famous Richard, makes a skit and music video mocking Kwondo's reaction to the Lil Pap shooting. Sheriff's deputy's pulling out a man who had been shot in an SUV. This man, a passenger in that car frantic at the sight. The song was literally called No! And the hook was famous Richard, just screaming no, like Cuondo did when he saw Lil Pap die. This song was even promoted encouraging other people to do the impression of Quondo shouting no, calling it the Quando Rondo challenge.
Starting point is 04:00:00 In response to this, Quando Rondo's friend Jump Out Gang Black, the person who made the song King Tim story would clap back with an IG story, saying that things are much deeper than they seem and that people are false claiming this incident, even adding that he is planning to make somebody pay. Meanwhile, a few days after the incident, amid the disrespect coming from King Von's friends and affiliated Black disciples in Chicago, Lil Tim takes to Twitter to diss Slutty, tweeting The Slutty Way, a reference to King Von's friend Slutty, who had tried and failed to execute Tim the night von died, ultimately end up being killed by the police. But once the dust settled on this incident, those involved would need to
Starting point is 04:00:33 pop off the internet and begin to deal with the real-life consequences of the situation. In September, Lil Tim would be seen at Lil Pab's funeral. And while rumours had circulated that Cuando wouldn't be attending the funeral, he'd later be seen carrying the casket along with Lil Tim and others. After the ceremony, Lil Tim would be popping champagne at Lil Pab's wake. And considering just how much of Cuando's great artistry has come from him channeling his pain into great songs, it's no surprise that it didn't take him long to open up about the death of his right-hand man Pab in pain songs. On August the 30th 20th, Quando Rondo opens up about the situation on the song Give Me a Sign with NBA Youngboy,
Starting point is 04:01:10 rapping that people were testing him and now a rapper got killed, as well as saying it broke his heart to see Lil Tim get shot and then charged with murder just for protecting him. Elsewhere on the song, NBA Youngboy raps about King Von sleeping with his ex, saying that he couldn't cope with it, and saying that him and Cuondo had been blackballed in the music industry for what Lil Tim did to King Von. This would give fans an insight into the pain that that Quando and Youngboy had been going through, living with the consequences of King Vons' death as a result of their rap beef. But what was still a mystery was who exactly was responsible for this most recent murder
Starting point is 04:01:39 of Lil Pap. Soon, the internet would begin piecing together the clues, with a suspicious eye being cast towards the LA branch of the Rolling 60s Crips. Now initially, Cuando seemed to have a connection with the LA wing of the same gang he represented in Savannah. He had been seen with Rollin 60s members in LA on his previous trip when he was pressured by the Hoovers. And it seemed that Quando was familiar with that age-old process where the world of rappers and gangsters collide, known as checking in. This is the idea that rappers have to contact the local gang and negotiate protection whilst visiting a new city. This checking in process may or may not involve a payment, or it might simply operate on a mutual respect
Starting point is 04:02:12 being shown. Many rappers like Lil Baby have seen showing love to LA's Rolling 60s as part of an apparent checking in process. Here's Lil Baby in Rolling 60s territory with legendary Roland 60s Crip rapper Nipsey Hustle. A former Crip leader by the name of Big You actually broke down the process of checking in to Charlemagne in an interview on the Breckley. Club. Explain extortion to us. Would the rappers really be getting extorted by the game members? Because if you're coming out here and you're eating and you're in the club and nobody know you and you're bringing your crew, then what happened? You fool. You fool. Interestingly, Cuondo had actually had numerous interactions with legendary L.A. Crip Big U in the lead up to this tragic incident.
Starting point is 04:02:50 Big U had claimed on the Breakfast Club that Cuando had reached out to him for protection and suggested that despite claiming role in 60s, 60s, Cuondo had never showed him love until he began having problems with Dirk after Vonn's death. You know, you got a lot of dudes, like, when I was here last time, they claim my neighborhood that's in this music, but they don't really f*** us until it's a problem. Then they call them. Like, Cuando Rondo, I just showed envy. Like, you can't call me now.
Starting point is 04:03:17 You can't call me when the fire hot. You didn't fucking me before that. You know what I mean? You had my number. You could have called me. You could have did all that. This comment elicited a response from Kondo who denied ever calling Big You for protection, instead saying that he was asking how he could give back to the role in 60s in LA.
Starting point is 04:03:33 It's time for me to start squirting to my face politics-wise. You feel me? It's time for me to lead this scree-in-the-scribes and just play my role with this internet. I never once called nobody, no, on planet, earth for no protection. Because I don't fear no man. Why would I wait to get us? Anybody that I ever called, I call on some shit. Like, how can I help?
Starting point is 04:03:59 How can I do this? How can I do that? I never called no person on planet Earth for protection. Big U would reply to this, claiming to have love for Kondo, but also suggesting that he was planning to pull up on him and that he was in his town. First of all, I never talked to Kondo. You know, it ain't number of love with Kondo. and I was only addressing something that Quint, that, um, that, um, that, uh, Shadow Man has said to me. And if you reaching out to do something for the kids, definitely do that, because I never talked to him.
Starting point is 04:04:32 He's just asking him somebody to reach out. I just feel like I know because I've been doing. And I never heard from him after we had a conversation, maybe a year, year and a half ago, no, maybe two years ago. And then, um, so when he called me, I'm only on positive vise. So I'm gonna pull up on, because he can pull up on me. I'm in his town right now, so, but I ain't got nothing of love for nephew. And he talked to my son them a week ago about whatever they were talking about. So I'm gonna leave it at a day.
Starting point is 04:05:06 Big You would claim to not be doing anything with Cuando if it's about anything negative. Quando want to do something for the kids, for the family. I'm definitely with him on that. You know, definitely supporting, but no, if it ain't positive, man, I'm not rocking with it. I'm just not rocking with nothing unless it's positive, 100. Period. So I'm not even taking negative calls, man. I'm not looking for no negative cause. I'm not taking negative cause.
Starting point is 04:05:32 If I think it's going to be negative, I'm not taking it. If it ain't positive, it ain't by doing some construction and helping these kids, I'm out of it. But no, I never talked to nephew. You know what I mean? I never talked to him as he called me because I'm on all positive. Positive vibes. But I will talk to Quando. And months later, Big U would appear on No Jumper in an interview where he seemingly
Starting point is 04:05:56 apologized to Quando and indicated that there had been a miscommunication. Somebody got to be a man at some point and say they was wrong. Like as far as Quando Rondo. I was wrong for seeing it, but he was wrong for... Oh, shit. Oh, shit, chat, chat, chat. We got Myron Game. on here, you know, usually me and Mary, we chop it up about many cases.
Starting point is 04:07:15 We haven't gotten a chance to connect, but we finally got him on the phone. Marian, this dirt case, I think we're at almost like day 14, like day 12, if you don't count the jury selection, but it's out to the jury now. And I'm wondering what do you think about the whole case. You've discussed this, you know, on our stream where we talked about the indictment. We talked about how probably the investigation process went. Well, this is far beyond that now. We've seen federal agents testify.
Starting point is 04:07:49 We've seen evidence. We've seen three cooperators. There was many conversations about possible wiretaps. And Reddit had like, oh, Jam is wearing a wire. That was not true. But we have seen all the evidence they had, mostly based on these cooperators, but they have financial records that corroborates certain stuff, text messages, songs that might insinue. ways certain stuff. I wonder how you feel about this case as a former federal agent.
Starting point is 04:08:16 Do you think that, you know, the agents had a strong case? Do you think that they gave the AUSA a strong case? Or do you think that, you know, the AUSA had to kind of make a lot of maybe nothing? What's your thoughts on the whole thing? No, man, I mean, it's a very strong case. You know, feds don't normally come for you unless they're certain that they're going to win. You know, I remember when I used to present a case, right, when I would give my, it's called the grand jury packet, right? When you have your evidence and you're ready to
Starting point is 04:08:44 indict, most of the U.S.A's, bro, aren't going to even go to grand jury unless they feel like they can win in a trial. So when I would, you know, give my grand jury packet with all my evidence, you know, so that we can go to grand jury so the AUSA can indict the case. Like, you're giving them a lot of the times, um, stuff ready to go for trial. So like by the time, if someone did decide they want to go to trial, um, there wasn't much that you had to give them after them. I mean, you, you know, refine some things here and there, you know, you get them the official official of things so that you make sure that you make sure that you that you can actually use it for trial.
Starting point is 04:09:12 But for the most part, by the time you go to grand jury and you're indicted in the case, you're ready to go to trial at that point. That's one of the things about the feds is like, you know, with us, you know, you're bunning up the case really tightly because most new attorney's offices have like high prosecution success rates and they don't want to go below 95%. So, you know, if you're talking about like a Sunday district of New York or, you know, L.A. U.S.A.'s office, the United States Attorney's office over in L.A.
Starting point is 04:09:39 these are big offices that have a lot of AUSAs and they have the power and the resources and the agents and the power and you know the time to go ahead and you know really make the case airtight so in this case right I know that they you know the defense has really been attacking the credibility of OTF jam and OTF Vani saying that their lives they're gang members you know they're the only reason why they're even here testifying is because they're getting a deal these guys can't be trusted or whatever and you know this is you know one of the things with with the feds is you know I remember this vividly when I'll talk to a you know you USA's for like my drug conspiracy cases, they would always say, look, we can't die on the testimony of a crook. We need physical evidence to corroborate the testimony of the crook, because the thing is, when you have a, you know, a witness that's not credible, like an OTF Viney or an OTFGM who's like, you know, admitted murderer, well, though they're horrible witnesses, right, if you can take physical evidence to corroborate what they're saying, well, now you've kind of validated what they've said. So anytime you have witnesses like this that are criminals that are involved in the conspiracy that have an incentive to cooperate for leniency, you have to pair it up with physical evidence. Now, as far as like the wire or whatever, I knew that they more than likely weren't going to get a T3 on this.
Starting point is 04:10:50 Contrary to Popperer of belief, it's actually really hard to get a Title III intercept on phones. Also, also, so they said Dirk had like 27 numbers in three years. You know, not to kind of instruct some of the future criminals out there. does it make it difficult to keep up with a wire as a federal agent if the subject keeps switching their numbers? Like they keep going from number to number, you know? Shit, okay. I'm trying to think here what I can say to you. Because I've done a Tad of 3 intercept before.
Starting point is 04:11:28 So, okay. It sounds like the answer to yes. I'll say this. Smyr kept changing his number every 20 minutes. Changing Your number and changing your phone Can create some issues But there's ways around that
Starting point is 04:11:44 I'll say that That you can still do what you got to do But yes It could be it could be problematic for the Affian and the agent But there's ways around that for sure To continue doing the Title III intercept I'll say that
Starting point is 04:12:00 Okay So there was no Wire here It appears at least in the government's case, and, you know, you've done many cases in it, and, you know, obviously really maybe something might be something of interest or someone's a person of interest or there's a crime that got committed. But I'm guessing there's usually certain at a point where it's like, yo, this thing just got really kicked off. And it appears that the government has admitted that, you know, of course they were looking into things, but this thing really got kicked off by OTF jammed who gets caught with a gun. and he literally slides a note to the agents and says,
Starting point is 04:12:41 hey, I know about bodies. Now, we had Sidi Nash on here who's in court. And he said, hey, listen, I'm going to be honest with you. And actually, not only said to Nash, who else did we have? It was not only saying that someone else said, that doesn't sound accurate. It doesn't sound like there's a bunch of people getting caught for a gun and then admitting to bodies.
Starting point is 04:13:03 That doesn't make sense. Maybe the feds, you know, that's a roundabout way of the feds, you know, trying to act like jam came to them, but in reality they put him in a jam, all pun intended. Does that sound normal? So I could tell you why I could give you a couple scenarios of why I think he probably
Starting point is 04:13:21 cooperated. So like getting caught with a gun, right, by the state isn't that bad. But getting caught by the feds with a gun as a convicted felon is really bad, especially with his rap sheet. So that would have been an easy, you know, 18 U.S.C. 922 G charge, because obviously he's a felon, probably smokes weed and does drugs and stuff like that.
Starting point is 04:13:40 So with his rap sheet, bro, and getting caught with a firearm, that would have been an easy Fed charge on him, and he'd do, like, you know, some very serious time based on history. And I want you to react to all this because, again, I'm even in the thought that I think not only the, like, the feds in terms of the agents, I definitely think the AUSAs are playing some games. They said... So real quick, some stupid nigger in your chest said,
Starting point is 04:14:01 really bad is five years fed. Yeah, you're a fucking retard because when you have a criminal history, that or your career criminal like OTF, Jam hat is, they can significantly increase your time. Okay. That's why niggas and chat are stupid as fuck like this idiot. No offense, but your guy in your chat's an idiot. No, no, but perfect.
Starting point is 04:14:17 No, here's what the AUSA said. Yeah. They actually said that jam pled out, which this raises a red flag for me. Let me see if it does real. They said jam pled out for that charge. They basically were trying to say, hey, it's not because he,
Starting point is 04:14:35 had a gun charge, that's why he pled, he admitted to three bodies. Okay? They actually said he pled out to that and he took a plea, which would be three years and basically he's been to jail before. He know he would probably only serve close to half of it. Now, granted, given what you just said. Wait, hold on, hold on. So stay, I'm talking about a federal gun charge with found a possession of firearm.
Starting point is 04:15:01 Like, you're saying he pled out to what? Because that's what I'm arguing is that. I'm not even arguing. Like what I'm saying is that I think like something they could have held over his head to get him to cooperate because I'm trying to because you're I agree with you. You have a good point. Hey, why the hell would he cooperate just by getting caught with a gun? Like that doesn't make sense. Like snitch on OTF, snitch on Dirk, you know, implicate himself in a murder for hire.
Starting point is 04:15:21 Why would you do that? What I'm saying is I think the feds came over and said, look, buddy, we got two with a gun. You are a multiple time convicted felon. You're going to do 80% of your time, 90% of your time. You're going to go to a USP off rip because you have a violent. in criminal history, you're not going to go to a lower medium, and you're going to do a significant amount of time, and you're not going to get parole, right?
Starting point is 04:15:41 And you're going to get all kinds of extra points on this. So what do you want to do? I think that's what made him really realized, like, or maybe in the back of his mind he knew this, that if he didn't cooperate, he would get cooked on the federal charges with the gun. That's what I'm saying. Like, the federal gun charge, bro,
Starting point is 04:15:54 with a criminal history like that can really put him away for a long time. And wait, hold on. Just that's not because there's no parole. I agree with you, but I think the feds played, I think they are being, they're being disingenuous in how they present the case because let me ask you this. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:16:11 If the state- Well, they're not going to tell you how they flipped them. There's a big reason why they didn't record a lot of his interviews too. Yeah. Okay. So let me ask you a question. So he gets called with a gun. Remember, the feds say he took a three-year plea.
Starting point is 04:16:24 I have to believe that wasn't a federal charge. That was a state charge. So I agree with that. Now, could they still come with federal charges if he took a state charge and played out to that? I would think that would kind of go to like double jeopardy. No? Am I? What will happen is so like let's say the state charges them with unlawful possession of a firearm because there's like,
Starting point is 04:16:43 every state typically has like some type of statute for unlawful possession of firearm by a felon. What ends up happening? Because I've been through this before in the state of Texas. A lot of times the state will just, we'll be like, hey, look, we want to file a federal gun charge. Can you guys drop yours? And most, most DAs will immediately drop it and let you take a federal. Okay. But the feds in this case.
Starting point is 04:17:03 That's a quick phone call. The Fez in this case literally said, hey, it's not because of the gun because he already had a plea. So how do you think they flipped him? Because in closing, they said it. They said, the defense wants you to believe that this guy was jammed up over a gun and he flipped. Well, he already pled out guilty for three years for the gun. So that's why I'm confused I'm like
Starting point is 04:17:35 They could have taken a federal And he would have got way more time Okay So you think they kind of pressured him there Then you was going to come with the murders And they said alright Okay you could take it that way there But come with the murders
Starting point is 04:17:47 It was Did you have drugs in a car too? Or did you have drugs in a car by chance or no? Not too sure But I do know I believe it was a you know He's from Chicago So he had a switch on the gun you know
Starting point is 04:17:58 Oh yeah Then that's going to be an enhancement as well Yeah so what I think more than likely was look, we can we can cook you federally for this. It's probably in your best interest to cooperate. You know what I mean? Because we can take this federal and, you know, really put you in a bad spot. And then, you know, federal prison, you know, it's a bit different because they can ship
Starting point is 04:18:16 him anywhere, right? So he's got to obviously there's, you know, they're going to put him. He's going to go to a U.S. penitentiary, which is going to be high security because of his violent history. So obviously in the back of his mind, he also knows like, okay, not only am I going to do Fed time, I'm going to go to a yard where I'm going to have to like fight with people. I'm a BD. Like, there's also, like, gang situations that put him in a very precarious situation,
Starting point is 04:18:36 safety-wise, in the federal system. So these are all things he has to weigh. More time, no parole, you know, being sent anywhere in the country where he doesn't have the safety of, you know, numbers and like in the state system in Illinois. All these things come into play. Okay. So let me ask you one of the major questions. Of course, I'm speculating, though.
Starting point is 04:18:57 We don't know exactly, but these are explanations that could explain it. Of course, of course. So let me ask you about one of the major questions that has came up consistently, especially Brian Steele and Drew Phelan, both brought this up. And you being a federal agent, you, I don't know, arrest the guys. Say you found, you know, you worked for HSI at the border. Okay, you catch this guy with some drugs or whatever you catch him with. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:19:20 I'm not getting cases too like this. Okay. So you lock him up. He slides you a note. Hey, listen, I know about bodies. Here's one of the big moments of, you know, content. attention. Okay. He slides you a note. He doesn't want to talk on camera. How come the first four, the first four conversations are not recorded and also it's reported he met with the government
Starting point is 04:19:47 30 times or not the government. He met with agents or government, whatever you want to call it, 30 times. When you have someone, and I don't know if you've been in that position where someone is down to flip, you could possibly, you know, use this person as, you know, a witness for other things. How many times are you meeting with this, you know, confidential informant or protected witness? How many times is that a normal amount? 30 seems maybe exorbitant. Obviously, you got to get prepared for trial, but does that sound about right? Yeah, no.
Starting point is 04:20:18 No, it'd be great to answer this. So here's the thing. And again, I'm just kind of like going off of what we've known from trial, whatever. So the state, right? The state records everything all the time. Because we got to keep in mind that this was originally a murder case. And then once they figured out that there was gang ties and, you know, they figured out who the targets were, et cetera. You know, they said, you know what, maybe we can take this thing federal.
Starting point is 04:20:39 So it is important to state that, like, this case was a state case first. Then they kind of evolved into a federal case. A lot of state agencies have like a mandatory, must record every single interview situation. The feds are a bit more flexible with that. But the DOJ in most districts are also going to say you need to record every single interview. Now, when I was on a job and we would interview people, like if it was a suspect or whatever, it was mandatory, you need to interview the principal with a recording every single time. However, if they end up becoming a witness in the case and, you know, they tell you how I don't want the camera on,
Starting point is 04:21:08 you can turn it off. If the person requested they didn't want the camera, and someone like OTF jam. How do you detail that? How do you, how do you detail the contents of that interview or, you know what I mean, the information that is being divulged, especially if it's not recorded? and if maybe they say no no video uh wouldn't you just go to audio um no because because what'll happen is especially guys this happened all the time when i would interview gang members by the way this is unusual whenever you interview gang members um they're very weary of you recording
Starting point is 04:21:40 anything with them and uh you just have to take really good notes and write a good report um what i would do is i would kind of like i'd write my notes and i'd like have them look at them hey is this accurate or i'd recap it back to them and they're like yeah that's accurate and then i'd be All right, cool. And when they're cooperating with you like that, a lot of the times they don't want it on record because they don't want that ever being played in court or whatever. You know, I guess in their minds, they're like, hey, it protects me more if I'm not being recorded. And the other reason, too, why a lot of gang members don't like to be recorded is because, and you said there was like 30 meetings. I guarantee you a bunch of those meetings weren't just on the Dirk case. It was also on other gang activity within the black disciples, gang's disciples, etc. Whenever you have like someone like this, I'll never forget this, I had an Atlantic King case back in the day.
Starting point is 04:22:18 This is back like 2015, 2016. And we were talking to a guy that was a regional income, right? Or an enforcer. No, no, he's a regional income, actually. And another guy that was as an enforcer, whenever you talk to someone that's like a higher ranking guy, you're going to do many debriefs with them because they're a wealth of knowledge, bro. They know everything.
Starting point is 04:22:35 They know who's bringing in the drugs. They know who's beating up who. They know who's shooting who. They're every single one in the meetings. So the higher ranking the individual is, the more debriefs you're going to do with them. And then on top of that, you're going to have other law enforcement agencies or other, you know, fed that are going to want to come and be like, oh, you got this source, he knows this.
Starting point is 04:22:51 He might know something about a murder here, blah, blah. So it's not out of the realm to interview someone like Jam, who I think was like a min or so he was a high-ranking guy in the BDs where he can help solve other crimes as well. So even if he doesn't get Dirk, the government might still be able to say, well, he still gave us substantial assistance in other active investigations. So that's more than likely why they met with him so many times was because they asked him about other stuff that didn't just concern Dirk based on his status in the gang. And this wasn't uncommon. I remember when I met with my guy. That was... From Chicago has a street name.
Starting point is 04:23:25 Allegedly has been tied to even murders from when he was potentially underage. He has gone on multiple shootings. Did it result in someone dying? Maybe not. But what is that debriefing process once they realize he's down to cooperate? What does that look like? How thorough is it? How do they feel?
Starting point is 04:23:48 figure out, you know, obviously he did admit to three murders on the stand, but is that all he admitted to? Did he, is he providing information against other people that might be on charge? What does that look like? And if you're an investigator, where do you start with someone like jammy the board? Yeah, sure. So like whenever you have like a highly structured organized, you know, gang, right? I'll give an example like with the Kings, right?
Starting point is 04:24:12 When I'd go in and debrief them, I'd be like, okay, what's your rank? I am this. Okay, what are your duties? Okay, I do this. Okay, when do you guys have meets, right? When do you guys have church? Okay, we do it on this day. Okay, give me the other guys who and what their ranks are, et cetera. And I'll come in with like a photo, like a whole binder of suspected gang members and I'll bring him up like, okay, what's this guy's rank? And then he'll tell me what he does. Okay, what are his duties? He does this? Okay, what does this guy do? Okay, that's our plug. Okay, what does he do? Okay, he brings in the drugs from Bobo Blower. He buys it from the Mexicans down south and he brings it in. So like, Whenever you're dealing with big organizations like this where you have people in different ranks and different duties and everything else like that, a debrief man can easily go one, two, three hours because you're getting, you know, all the details of every single person and what they do, what their duties are, et cetera. And that's how you're able to build a gang investigation because then you're able to figure out the hierarchy. You're able to figure out who does what, who's responsible for what. And then it allows you to kind of like properly target the organization based on kind of where you stand. So like if I want to do a wiretap, right, I'm going to want to go ahead and get someone kind of in the middle or.
Starting point is 04:25:17 or someone that's as close as to the top as I can so that I can kind of get, you know, closer to the main guy. So these debriefings, bro, a lot of the times are like, you know, super important when it comes to like intelligence gathering, how gang structures work, duties, all that other stuff. So that's what more than likely happened with a lot of these debriefings with this guy, was him giving, you know, deep insight into the gang, the shootings,
Starting point is 04:25:41 then are workings. And someone like him is going to know, you know, because like I'm sure he probably had an enormous amount of intelligence. intelligence on the GDs as well because he was beef with them. So he's going to know who the shooters are. Who did what? Who shot who? Who, who did, you know, who sells the drugs?
Starting point is 04:25:54 Who funds them? You know, where they get their guns from? How do you make those? How do you make those? Okay, so, all right. So someone just gave me some info. Apparently he was collared by CPD, which is Chicago Police Department. Okay.
Starting point is 04:26:06 You collar him, obviously, maybe, you know, obviously there was current investigations by the feds in Chicago. They probably, like, either came in or whatever, or once he said I knew about some murders. How do you work with other agencies? Let's say you're the feds out of Chicago, right? You're out of Illinois. How do you kind of connect with maybe the feds out of California to be like, oh, okay, maybe he's down, maybe he did a crime there.
Starting point is 04:26:32 Like, is that something where you kind of like just put out there like, hey, we have this guy that might blah, blah, blah, blah, or, you know, you kind of just like feed off of what he's telling you or whatever, whatever. I'm wondering how all the feds link up with the same guy. die because a lot, yeah, go ahead. No, no, no, no, that's a really good question because people ask this question all the time, like, hey, how the hell do we know if you're even under investigation from another agency? So different states have something called deconfliction, right?
Starting point is 04:26:59 And typically, like in Texas, for example, they have like a deconfliction center where, you know, you would take your main target, you put them in there, and then if anyone else searches that individual, you're going to get a, you're going to get like a notification. And then the other person, right, you'll put in there like, you know, you're looking at which agency you're from. You can specify what crime you're looking at him for, blah, blah, blah. And then what ends up happening is when another person searches that guy through that same database, it's going to notify you and it's going to notify him that you're looking at him as well.
Starting point is 04:27:28 And then what you're supposed to do is call that guy and, you know, kind of figure out what the deal is, right? So, you know, I had an OCDF case back in the day, which stands for organized crime, drug enforcement task force, right? This was like a big thing back in a day. Now they replaced it with, you know, human homeland security task forces. they replaced the HSTF, but same thing. And what you would do is, like, if I was looking at someone for, like, drug trafficking, I had a meth case back in the day, and there was this guy that was, like, a source of supply with very pure crystal methamphetamine
Starting point is 04:27:54 out of South Texas. And I put his stuff in there, and then I get, like, a hit from somebody from DPS, and I guess a hit from someone DEA. Now, what you could do is be like, okay, you know, I'm not going to work with these guys are going to run my own case. But the problem is because if you're going to try to do an operation or anything else like that, you need to know who else is, like, working this actively or how far along they are in their investigation. So I always called them. I reached out, told them, hey man, this is what we're looking at them for.
Starting point is 04:28:17 You know, we can have a meeting, right? And kind of figure out where to go from here. And most of the time, if you're polite about it or whatever, you know, they'll have a meeting with you. And then you'll just, you know, whether if it's D.A. and FBI guy, whatever, you just figure out where y'all can meet. Whether you go to their office, they come to yours. You come in with your stuff. They come in with theirs. And, you know, this is where the politics come in, where it's like, you know, you can be a dick and be like, most FBI just does not want to share information. Or you can kind of go in there and be like, look, this is what we're working, bro.
Starting point is 04:28:41 We want to bring you in. We've done expended these types of sources. These types of resources. We've done a couple buys. We have an informant, blah, blah, blah. And then typically whoever comes in with more investment and, you know, more skin in the game, typically will kind of win that battle. And I would always be the one that would have the source.
Starting point is 04:28:56 So I'd be like, you know what, bro, I got an informant already, blah, blah. I'm already kind of ahead of here. Just come on the case. We'll put you on the OSEDF. We'll write you in. It'd be good for your office, blah, blah. Here's an OSEDF case number. And then they just come in and, you know, they get to stat and everything else like that.
Starting point is 04:29:09 So that's kind of how you figure things out when you're looking at someone like that with these deconfliction centers. Okay. So now you get someone like Jam. He's basically broke down all the, all the, you know, facets of the case. He tells you he has three bodies. You start promised because now he's looking, it's deal or no deal. He's looking at you.
Starting point is 04:29:34 He's like, hey, listen, you know, I did a lot of fucked up shit. I'm here to help you. I could get you maybe some people. you need, but I need some promises. I need some promises that, you know, I'm going to have a date, which means I'm not getting life in prison. What could you offer me? And they start putting things on the table.
Starting point is 04:29:57 For example, hey, I know about multiple bodies, unsolved murders. And he's saying it to you, basically saying, come at me with the deal and we could deal. Now, given that this, the feds, we know how the feds move is usually not, okay, here's the deal on some YSL Woody shit. Take the deal and then we'll get the info after. How do you barter in that situation? A guy says, hey, listen, I know about three bodies. They're unsolved murders. But I need to know if I admit to these, I could probably get you the other co-conspirators, the other people I did the murders with.
Starting point is 04:30:34 But I have to know I'm going to get out of jail at some point. What do you offer them or what do you do at that point? Okay, so that's a really fantastic question. I'm going to take you step by step how I, because I actually did this before where someone was like, they had on murders and stuff like that. I wanted to, and you wanted to help me on a case that was kind of unrelated.
Starting point is 04:30:53 So this is exactly what I did step by step. So they teach you this in every single law enforcement agency. They tell you, you know, they teach you this. Never make promises, right? Like at the end of the day, the feds, law enforcement, detectives, special agents, whatever may be, postal inspectors, I don't care what they are. They really don't have the motion and the sauce to give you anything.
Starting point is 04:31:11 It's going to be the U.S. Attorney's Office that does everything. So all you can say is what I would say is, hey, look, I'm going to talk to the prosecutor on your behalf. I'm going to vouch for you, okay? Let me see if I can make a call, right? And depending on how, you know, how things were playing what time of night it was or whatever, or if it was an AUSA that I was very close with that I got along with, I'd be like, give me a minute. Step out the room. I tell the AUSA what I got.
Starting point is 04:31:36 I'm like, look, this is what we got with this guy. He's, you know, he's credible and truthful. I've been able to corroborate several of the things that he sold me already. Because remember, I debriefed him on the gang, right? And I already know a bunch of the information I'm coming in with. He's just filling in the dots. And then depending on how honesty is with that and how accurate he's been, then I'm like, okay, this guy's really good.
Starting point is 04:31:55 We want to get him involved. And then from there, you know, you got to decide if you want to make him, you know, an official informant where he gets a CI number or he's a cooperating defendant or he's a whatever. and that obviously depends on where that individual is. Now, if there's... Hold on, hold on, though. Is there ever a time you tell an inmate? Like, for example, I know Vonny Brascoe told his mom, he said,
Starting point is 04:32:16 oh, mom, already secured the deal. I'm going to be out, and he basically said some fake time. I would imagine if people are trying to get a deal, they want some assurance. What assurance can you give them, or is it, oh, I'll talk to the prosecutor on your behalf? Could you actually offer them? them like, hey, listen, you know what?
Starting point is 04:32:38 I could kind of, like, maybe not on paper guarantee you that you're only going to look at, like, maybe 10 years or whatever, but I could almost damn near make sure you're definitely not getting over that. And because if someone snitching, they want to hear what they're getting out of it, right? Like, how do you make that insurance? And they do. And this is, this is where a lot of agents can, like, get jammed up. Like, you never make promises to the guy.
Starting point is 04:33:01 You just say, look, I'm going to make a phone call. And I'm going to, and what I would tell him is, like, this is what I'm going to try to do for you. I'm going to try to help you with this situation. I'm going to keep you out. Because a lot of the time for them, they just don't want to go to jail a lot of the times. Right. Like if they can like kind of like be out on the streets and do what they need to do, like that's really like their main concern at that point. And again, so many different factors come into it. Like what did they get arrested for? What are they being held for? Are they there on, you know, did their parole officer arrest them, whatever? Because that changes things
Starting point is 04:33:27 significantly, right? So it really depends on what they're in there for. And, you know, your relationship with the police department, your relationship with the DA's office, if they're there on state charges, whatever. So this is why it's so important also to have like task force officers, right? There was a guy when I used to work with DEA. There was a task force officer that was a part of the sheriff's office. Whenever someone got arrested, like at that sheriff's office, like I could basically know that like if we were going to flip that guy, I knew I would make that phone call to my guy
Starting point is 04:33:51 and that dude would be out that day. Like he would, they book him and they'd get them out on some bullshit, right? They'd get them out. So like it really depends on relationships and who you know and what the charge is. But going back to the jam situation, in that situation, obviously they can't make promises, but they can call the AUSA and be like, look, we're going to call the AUSA so we can make happen, et cetera, et cetera. And then, you know, maybe you do a 5K debrief for you do, you know, a safety valve or one of these, like,
Starting point is 04:34:13 debriefs, one of these debriefs where they're able to kind of like, or they call it a queen for a day or king for a day where they can kind of come in and give their information without it being used against them. There's different ways to go around it. But like, as far as like tangible, like, I can get you this. You really can't promise that as an agent that really comes down to the AUSA. And they're the ones that really can like make things happen. Because at the Fed level, bro, like, feds don't have.
Starting point is 04:34:34 have that much motion to make things happen like the state does. The state has state law force to and way more discretion to do shit like that than the feds do. The feds, you're at the mercy of the USA's office. I want to ask you a very important question. This is a question that I think a lot of people have been wondering about. So there's a few people that they've been mentioned frequently in the trial, but they're on they're, well, they're named, but they're uncharged. Like, For example, there is duty low. Supposedly he gave the low, the location. There's Booney Moe.
Starting point is 04:35:09 Supposed, supposedly he recruited one of the shooters. Jason Smith, apparently he booked the flights for the shooters to and from, you know, Chicago going to San Diego, who then transported to your LA. I heard you, you booked, I booked the shooters and then your phone cut off. Yes. No, I said, Jason Smith, he's like one of the third guys who, um, all the flights. And not only that, you know, he's in the message with Dirk. He's sending videos or pictures of, of Cuando crying after the murder.
Starting point is 04:35:44 It seemed like he kind of maybe knew about the plot. He's booking flights. These people are uncharged. They don't come up as witnesses. They don't come up as, you know, they were mentioned as co-conspirators initially, but they're not charged. Why would that be the case? Like, for example, Dutie Lowe, his name is old.
Starting point is 04:36:03 be mentioned in court. He's outside doing backflips. You know, he's turning to a jungle gym outside the court. Yeah. He seems pretty confident that there is no charges coming. Why would charges not arise
Starting point is 04:36:19 for someone who allegedly is on text messages, you know, get in the location for someone who eventually died, passing the location on, also according to one of the the cooperators, they said when they were clueless about why they were in Los Angeles, they said, Dutilo called them and said, hey, you're here to do a murder.
Starting point is 04:36:43 Why would these people not be charged? That's what we're all kind of like, we're scratching our hands. Yeah. It could be a combination of things. It can be, you know, they simply don't have enough evidence. It could be they're not worth, you know, trying to also wrap into the indictment and prove guilty. Obviously, right, their hands are going to be full because Dirk came in with, you know, a very competent defense team.
Starting point is 04:37:02 it could be maybe they cooperated or they're not worth of time or they just don't have enough evidence on those individuals specifically besides, you know, them potentially, you know, being involved with some text messages or whatever. Those can all be reasons why. Interesting. Interesting. Well, a follow-up question of that. You know, with the fact that they're not charged, would that mean they're in the clear since the trial essentially has gotten all the way to this point? you know, Dirk does have a subsequent trial, but, you know, if they haven't been named in any action or any indictments so far, would these individuals, you know, potentially be, won't say like, you know, super clear,
Starting point is 04:37:52 but would it be right if they are comfortable with knowing that, hey, listen, you know what, the feds are not trying to get me? Yeah, I mean, they definitely, Unless they made some kind of agreement where they came in maybe under a 5K proper, where they said, you know what, we'll cooperate. Who knows? You know, we don't know, because we don't have access to Dirk's discovery. It might be where they cooperate under a 5K.
Starting point is 04:38:15 And they said, hey, I'll give you all the information so you can build a case on these other guys. Or if they didn't cooperate, the government still reserves the right to indict them at any time. And with something like murder for hire, there's probably no statute of limitations. So they're not off the hook if they didn't cooperate from the government up front. Wow. Okay. But I'm going to assume they cooperated. You know, for them to not be charged, I'm going to assume they cooperated to some degree or maybe got a 5K or something. Shit, that would be interested if Dutley Lowe cooperated, you know, obviously.
Starting point is 04:38:47 He's one of the biggest supporters of Dirk. Let me ask you this question. So everyone's making their predictions. I'm pretty sure you probably heard a little bit about how the government's case was against Dirk and their response. You know, we kind of focused on the openings and the closings. It kind of like drove home the narratives. Obviously, there was three cooperators. There was some texts you could read either way.
Starting point is 04:39:10 The agents kind of, you know, built this case. But if you look at this stepping back, it's now in the hands of the jury. And I know, like, usually you're in the agent, you know, position where, you know, you just showed up in doing your job. But do you think that this was a strong case? that they brought against Dirk. And what do you think, you know, if you were an agent, like, you know, for example, there was agent Cody Burke and there was another agent who testified. Would you feel like, hey, listen, you know what?
Starting point is 04:39:44 We've done our job and this is enough to get like a conviction. What's usually an agent thinking after they get off the stand? Yeah, you know, whenever you go to trial, and this is why going to trial is so tough, bro. I remember I went to trial in a case. And most agents, to be honest with you, bro, most agents, do not go to trial on their cases. It's not common to go to trial, especially with the Fed. So, you know, no one wants to go to trial because you can always lose. You can, you know, on cross-examination, they can make you look like an idiot. There's always a risk of potentially, you know,
Starting point is 04:40:13 sloppy things coming in that can mess you up as an agent. So no one ever really wants to go to trial because that's like when all the marbles are on a table. So, you know, and the other thing, too, is like, you can have all this evidence in the jury can still feel unconvincent and say, you know what, you know what? We don't think it's beyond a reasonable doubt. We have a little bit of reasonable out here. You guys, you know, we're 90% of the way there, but we don't think it's enough. So it's always a gamble when you go to trial and then in a case like this where you have a
Starting point is 04:40:37 prominent music figure that has a lot of fans, a lot of supporters, you know, he has a really good defense team. I know Brian Steele, you know, did a fantastic job on, you know, cross-examining OTF Jam, really hurt his credibility. Same with OTF Ronnie, you know, kind of showing how much of scumbags they are,
Starting point is 04:40:53 et cetera, and really highlighting that to the jury. It's a toss-up, man. It's a toss-up. I think it's a strong case of general, obviously, but, you know, given the fact that, you know, we have a defendant here that has the resources to actually put a competent legal team together, who knows what the jury's going to be, man, what they're going to say.
Starting point is 04:41:09 Because jury, you know, jury trials are always a risk. Hmm. What's your prediction with this? Um, I think he's going to be found guilty. Um, but I don't think it's going to be there, I think the jury's going to deliberate for a bit. I think they're going to go back and forth.
Starting point is 04:41:29 Um, you know, I think it's 10 hours. Uh, we got through 8 today. It was a full day of deliberation. They, they, they, they apparently have requested, um, some evidence on digital formats, which will be provided in the morning. They're definitely arguing, bro. Like, the fact that they didn't come back within hours, uh, that means that they don't have, the feds do not have, like, the trial was not like as airtight as, as, as it could have been.
Starting point is 04:41:53 If they didn't come back immediately with, with a, with a guilty verdict. So that's good for the defense. The fact that, like, it's taken, you know, full. day, which means they obviously have questions and concerns and, you know, they need more time to deliberate. The faster the verdict, the worst it is for the defense. Oh, you think so? Oh, wow. Yeah, because if they come back with a fast verdict, bro, you're nine out of ten times. You're guilty. So the more time that goes, the better it is for the defense, because that means that they're fighting and arguing in there. Like,
Starting point is 04:42:21 I know, he's not guilty. No, he is guilty. I have reasonable doubt on this. I have reasonable down on that. So, you know, the more time that elapses, the better it is for the defense for sure. Wow. That's interesting. Yeah. So, uh, it, whenever they're requesting like documents or we need more time or whatever, that means that they're in there bickering with each other. Okay. Which of the charges you think is, uh, the most difficult? I feel like when it comes to fed, the feds, you know, the conspiracy charges are always the, uh, you know. Let me pull up the indictment real quick. Do you have in front of you or? Uh, I don't have it. They've done like a million different. They've done a million different. They've done a million different superseding for this trial,
Starting point is 04:43:02 for this case. Yeah, they've turned it into five charges. I'm pretty sure. You could probably find it. Yeah, I'm looking it up right now because they've done multiple superseding indictments on this because obviously getting ready because they knew they were going to go to trial so they had to clean it up several different times.
Starting point is 04:43:21 But sorry, go ahead. I'm listening. So I'm kind of, you know, in terms of the feds and like, you know, an agent, we, we Which charges are the ones that you're like, you know what? Okay, this might be tough to get them on, even though it might technically qualify to be charged with that. But what are the catch-all charges? I feel like conspiracy, that's what it is because, you know, it's a very lax way of, you know, there's many different interpretation.
Starting point is 04:43:49 It doesn't require you to do every single over-acted. You know, but from an agent perspective in when you're assigned in charges, or that probably has to do a lot with the AUSA. But when you're thinking about what somebody might be charged with, how do you kind of rationale the potential charges that you would suggest, obviously for the AUSA to adopt and, you know, essentially file? Yeah, conspiracy is like the catch-all one, man. You know, 18 U.S.C. 371, man.
Starting point is 04:44:15 I had that burned in my brain because it's like, that's like the catch-all charge because all you really need is, you know, two or more people and an overt act or two over-d-acts or whatever maybe. Why is this for the conspiracy, right? So like let's say, you know, me and you rob a bank, right? And we're planning to rob a bank. And they catch us before we robbed the bank, but they have you on video buying the gloves. They have me on video getting the guns or whatever. And they stop us beforehand. They got us for conspiracy debt to rights because we conducted over at acts to, in furtherance of the conspiracy of robbing the bank. So even though we didn't rob the bank, they caught us, you know, in the process of doing it. And two or more people. And then we took over it acts to make the crime happen. So conspiracy, man, is. like, you know, it's the bread and butter of the feds, man, because that's how you, um, and then the beauty with conspiracy also is like, you're able to use that leverage to
Starting point is 04:45:04 flip people. You know what I mean? So like someone that might have not had as big of a role in the crime, when you tell them, well, you're going to get hit with conspiracy, oh shit. Well, I, you know, I wasn't the one that planned. I wasn't the one that got the guns. I didn't shoot nobody. You know, what the fuck? So they're going to be far more likely to cooperate because they don't want to get wrapped up in that conspiracy and get hit with that charge.
Starting point is 04:45:24 So conspiracy is like, you know, So the bread and barter the feds, man, and it's what you use a lot of times to get people to flip. I don't know. And maybe this is a question more for like, you know, maybe an attorney. But I'm pretty sure in terms of you kind of like working as a federal agent, you probably definitely came into contact with these. So in this case, the AUSA or the feds are not going at Dirk. especially, it's not this case, but the second case that's going to come, they're not going at him for Rico.
Starting point is 04:46:01 And we're used to hearing about Rico. They're going at him for what is called a Vicar. Yeah. Are you familiar with that? When does that come into play? And what's the difference if you do have, like, any knowledge of? Yeah, Vicar, you know, Vicar is like, there's VICAR groups like HHS has, FBI has them, DEA has them.
Starting point is 04:46:26 You know, it's just basically when you're going after violent criminals, right? If you don't have enough to, like, do a full-on gang case with a RICO and everything else like that, Vicar is another option that you can utilize. It's just a designation for a case that gives you more resources and allows you to get, you know, from the agent's side, you get more resources to do the case, you pay overtime for people, whatever may be. Kind of like OSF. And then for the U.S. attorney side, it helps you with, you know, also getting resources, prosecuting it, et cetera. So Vicar is like another way to go after VON organizations if you don't have a RICO. Because with RICO it's a bit harder, you need DOJ approval for Maine. It's a lot of paperwork.
Starting point is 04:47:03 You need to establish that they're an enterprise. You need to, you know, have... Oh, okay. Consider racketeering. Yeah, like the key, okay, so like the underlining, you know, thing that you need for a RICO case is you need to establish that they're like a criminal enterprise. So basically it's like a legal business that's committing crimes and furtherance of the enterprise. So like, we'll use the 6-9 RICO.
Starting point is 04:47:23 for example, because that's one that people are familiar with, right? Like, when they hit six nine with the RICO, they're saying, well, you know, you guys are over here beating people up, shooting people, but you guys were doing it in furtherance of the Niantray Bloods to, you know, increase your standing in the city so that you guys can spread fear, so you guys can, you know, make yourselves of higher status, et cetera. So, like, that's how they're able to go after, that's how they're able to do the RICO is like they look at the organization as a criminal enterprise. I think one of the charges they even got six nine with was like selling methamphetamine. So like, you know, murder for hire, extortion, drug trafficking, weapons, sales, you know, illegal gambling, like all of these crimes are considered like, you know, car theft, et cetera. All these different crimes qualify as like racketeering activities because you're committing these crimes in furtherance of the criminal organization.
Starting point is 04:48:10 So they look at it as an illicit enterprise and that's how they're able to charge RICO. Ah. But it looks like a vicar is more about just specifically. is that more tailored to gangs that might not have like, you know, the organizational structure or maybe like the money or whatever else that kind of... It's a step down from Rico because Rico is harder to prove. You know, the reason why you get football numbers with Rico is because they're looking at it like, well, you guys are all a problem. You guys are all committing crimes and furthers of this organization. We're just going to put all you niggas away unless you come in and cooperate with us, you know?
Starting point is 04:48:44 And the reason why to really understand the power of Rico, and I think you already know this, but this will be for your audience act. They put, Rico kind of came into play in the 1970s to go after La Costa Nosa the Mafia. And the problem was with the FBI was they couldn't get guys to flip. They couldn't get guys to cooperate on other members in the organization because the problem was the bosses, the bosses. Like these guys were so far removed from the actual crimes and the murders and the gambling and the rings and everything like that. They were just collecting the money. So they realized like the only way that we're going to get these guys is we need to attack them in an organization. We need to get people to flip.
Starting point is 04:49:17 So one ended up happening was they would charge the organization. and then the guys that were on the low level that were doing, you know, a lot of the crimes or whatever, well, guess what? You're going to get hit with murder from, you know, what this other guy did over here, because you guys were all doing this in furtherance of a criminal organization. That's how they're able to finally get people to flip and then take down the organization, because that was the biggest issue with taking down the mafia was, you know, or murder, right, the code of silence or whatever, or our thing. So that's how the FBI was able to finally combat and infiltrate the mafia via RICO.
Starting point is 04:49:45 And then nowadays, right, like the mafia has kind of been relatively dismantled. They're still around, but they don't do a lot of. the same crimes, legal gambling or whatever. Like, you know, that's not a thing that used to be. They're still around, but they're moved on to other crimes. But the point is that, like, Rico's kind of evolved now, and they're using it more for street gangs to go after them. Or, you know, very sophisticated drug trafficking organizations or even sometimes, like,
Starting point is 04:50:05 money organizations, like, they just got this guy to plead guilty from Singapore that had a racketeering, you know, with theft of cryptocurrency. So it's a very, it's a popular way for the feds to go after a criminal organization and throw football numbers at them to get more. people to flip. As far as like this Vicar situation with Dirk, I don't think they had enough, they probably didn't have enough racketeering activities and they might have not had enough
Starting point is 04:50:28 evidence to like push this as a RICO. So they said, you know what? We might not have enough to do this as a RICO. It's going to be a lot of work. You know, it's a murder for hire. We can still throw football numbers at him. Let's just go with a Vicar. And I think that's probably why they did that. And then also when you do a RICO, another thing with RICO is if you're going to do RICO, you need to bring everybody in. You need to arrest everybody because Discovery's going to come out. People are going to know who
Starting point is 04:50:49 flip, people's going to know who cooperated, et cetera. So another problem with doing O'RICO is like, when you do that big roundup and you pick up all 50, all 100, 100, whatever may be, like, the streets are going to be talking because now everyone's going to know who flipped and who, who, who did what, because that discovery's going to go out. Wow. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, again, I'm asking, I guess some questions that probably, you know. No, these are really good questions, bro.
Starting point is 04:51:13 Like, you even have me, like, you know, going back into the memory to remember and answer some of these. So these are really good questions. Okay. So Dirk has a conspiracy for, well, murder in the aid of racketeering and also conspiracy to commit, conspiracy to use interstate facilities to commit murder for hire. Those are the big charges that if he's convicted for he will do life in prison because Savaya Robinson, who was the subject of the murder for hire, he did die.
Starting point is 04:51:43 This is his first case. He has another case and that was Avicarp. what are your, you know, if you had to just, just spitball it, pause. Like, if you had to just like, you know, guess if what's the possibility that he beats both cases? Because, you know, a lot of people, they're hoping that Dirk eventually walks. He has five counts here, and there's at least two counts, which might get superseded before he goes to the next trial. what's your thoughts in terms of, you know, if you were a betting man and you had to bet that he beats all the charges
Starting point is 04:52:23 and he's a free man, what do you think that percentage is looking like? A wall completely free on skates? Yeah. Beats everything? Yes, he beats the murder for hire. Murder native racketeerian, all the stalking charges, which is all these, this trial, and then he has to beat a vicar next. And we don't know if there's going to be supersede.
Starting point is 04:52:43 did like again jammy the bull may have like shit put him under for a couple more we don't know but what do you think because i think fans are hoping that you know they love dirk they don't believe dirk would do these things and hopefully you know whoever's lying on him and framing him he could come home scott free what do you think the percentage is that he could you know beat all these charges two cases you know in the feds and come home without doing some significant time. I'd say somewhere between 10 to 20%. 20% being extremely
Starting point is 04:53:18 charitable, like, but I'd say probably closer to 10. But it's going to be tough, bro. It's going to be really tough because conspiracy is kind of broad, man. And like, there's going to be a bunch of arguments for like, you know, what are what are avert acts are and, you know, obviously we have him
Starting point is 04:53:33 traveling and plane tickets and everything else like that. I know that they're saying like, oh, look, well, you know, he didn't book the plane tickets or whatever may be. But for him to work, walk away completely unscathes from this, I'd say, you know, 10 to 20% in that range percent chance, man. I think there's a high likelihood, 80% or better, he's going to be convicted of some of this.
Starting point is 04:53:53 I think for Dirk, if he gets, you know, 20 years, that's a big W. I said that. 20 years, I think that's the W, bro. I said between 15 and 20, you know, maybe. That's manageable. You know, a conviction on a stalking for Cuando, but Cuando didn't die. if he gets conviction for the stalking of Saviar Robinson, he passed away. Those things carry mandatory life.
Starting point is 04:54:16 Murder for hire, that's mandatory life. Someone died. Yeah. Murder Native racketeering. Someone died. Life. So if he was, if he's looking at, I said 15 to 20, and the reason why I said that, I think, you know, Dirk has the money.
Starting point is 04:54:34 Dirk has the best attorneys in the world. He has the will. He has the fight. he gets a 15 or 20 year sentence. He's going to spend his time in the appellate court trying to knock that bitch down. Keep going. Keep going. Hey, well, this particular charge or this sentencing on this or this new law has changed
Starting point is 04:54:54 and it looks at it and maybe just really whittle it down. And, you know, with all being said, you know, again, the feds aren't saying a bunch of bullshit. They're claiming that there's a bunch of deceased people that. you know, are revolving around this. And if, if 10 years is only the thing or you end up serving 12 or whatever, I don't know if we could act like that's a big of itself. Yeah, I agree with you, bro. Like, walking away from this with, you know, 10 or 20 years is actually a huge W for him,
Starting point is 04:55:24 man. And I'll tell you this, the thing that the jury's probably going to be deliberating on the most is that murder for hire because that's what's going to put him away for life. And you went to trial. So, like, when you go to trial, bro, they really come after you. You always get on the higher end of, you know, whatever. the sentencing guidelines are. So he needs to beat the murder for hire.
Starting point is 04:55:42 If he loses that, it's over, bro. It's literally, you know, for keeps here. No, no, I agree. I agree. So that's, but, you know, I want everyone to know that if he gets, we charge it like this, bro, you know, if he gets 10 to 15 years, 10, 20 years, that's actually a big W, man. So I was talking to 6'9, and I want to hear you kind of way into this.
Starting point is 04:56:05 You know, he was talking about Dirk's trial at the center, and I said, hey, listen, you know, there is some comparisons between you and Dirk's trial. Of course, you had a RICO. He doesn't have a RICO. But the big thing here is why Dirk's charges are more serious. Maybe not more complex, but more serious, is that the judge, and it was Judge Anglomier out of the Southern District of New York. His charges are way worse, bro. That's not even a question.
Starting point is 04:56:27 And I'll tell you why. So with Takashi, right, Danny was in a perfect position to, like, okay, if you're a rapper, right, and you're involved in a criminal organization, but you're not the head? you're in the perfect position to give the government exactly what they want because you're the financier so you know all the top dudes, right? So for example, in 6-9's case,
Starting point is 04:56:47 he knew who Mel Murda was and all his other guys. He wasn't necessarily a full-on blood, but he understood the intricate workings of the gang. He had access to the higher top guys. So he was in a perfect, what I call the middle ground position where he's able to give information on people below him and above him.
Starting point is 04:57:02 You know, he was the one that hired Kuda, if I'm not mistaken, to shoot at Chief Keith, and he got less time than Kuda. when he hired him to do it. But he was only able to do that because he was in a perfect position strategically to provide information on both people below him and above him. So in his situation, it worked out great. But Dirk is the top guy for the government. So since the government was gunning for Dirk and he's going to be the head of the organization,
Starting point is 04:57:26 and it's a murder case that is going to be way worse than what 6'9 dealt with in that RICO case because the government wasn't going after 6'9. They were going after Malmurder. Whoever's at the top of the indictment is who they're going after 9-9. out of ten times. That's their top target. The file name is who it is. So like if you look at like Six-Nine's case, I think it was like USA versus Jamel Jones at all,
Starting point is 04:57:46 which means, and I think that was Mel Murder's real name, if I'm not mistaken. At all means in the whole organization, if you look at the Dirk case, it literally says USA versus Grant at all, right? So, which is basically with Dirk. So that's just kind of how it goes. So like
Starting point is 04:58:02 with Dirk, it's a murder for hire, and he's the top of the organization. So his case is way worse than six. My answer to that was Judge Anglomier said something that was very important in 6-9's case. He says, you guys have gotten a sheer sum of luck because you have bad aim, which meant there was no one who died in the entire conspiracy. There was several shootings, nobody died. As comparison to Dirk's case, there's someone dead.
Starting point is 04:58:36 And the reason why I say that's tougher is because because someone died, the, what you're facing is not like this huge range of, oh, maybe you could get 15, like shot he got 15. He allegedly shot a bunch of people. Let me not put a number through it, but a bunch of people. And he fled guilty. Exactly. Guilty too.
Starting point is 04:58:56 Now, if he killed someone or they had him for a murder, I don't know if he's getting 15 years. He got 15 years, by the way. I don't know if he's coming home on 15 years. And I guess that was the difference I was trying to tell 6-9. I'm like, hey, listen, man, you know, murder is a whole different ball game, it seems. And that's what Dirk is fighting. You know, and I'll tell you this, you want to know how I knew it was bad.
Starting point is 04:59:22 Once L.A., once LAPD passed it off, right, their homicide unit passed it off to the feds, I was like, yeah, this isn't good. You know what I mean? Like, once they passed it off, I was like, yeah, like, anytime there's a murder and there's, like, gang violence or whatever, it's like the worst, the worst, bro. Like, they're going to come after you with everything they got. Because keep in mind, the state could have just went after him for murder, but they decided, you know, let's go ahead and do it in federal court. And like that, and here's the other thing, too, here's the other thing.
Starting point is 04:59:47 Let's say he walks away from this. There's really nothing stopping from the state from going after him for murder as well. Because murder for hire, you know, some people might be able to argue, well, no, that doesn't trigger double jeopardy because this is the murder, this is the murder one. Like, so it's different than a murder for hire using interstate commerce, all his other shit. So who knows if the state won't try to file another charge after him if the feds lose this. Wow. Because they can still mount the case as well after.
Starting point is 05:00:17 Hmm. Yeah, because keep in mind that this was LAPD's robbery and homicide unit. Los Angeles PD, they combined their robbery and their homicide. Those are the same guys that are doing the David case, by the way. So they can still come after, Dirk after this if the Fed failed. Yeah, you know, I said an unfortunate truth. I think it's an unfortunate truth to all the supporters. I said, listen, you know, we love the music.
Starting point is 05:00:46 You know, a lot of us were intrigued by like his story to send third. But if you think that he's going to come out of this situation anytime soon or come out of this situation, rapping the same type of songs that we all like, you know, the ones that it seems almost blur the lines, I'm like, when Dirk comes out of this, he might not even rap again. He's going to want to spend time with his family. He's probably going to realize, hey, listen, I spent a lot of time making music that people were intrigued with.
Starting point is 05:01:14 And I was playing on particular themes, whether it was antagonization, whether it was bragging about certain things. And the federal government has used these things. And they were all exhibit one to a hundred in trying to paint a picture of me doing very heinous things that comes with life in prison. You know, I don't think the fans, most of the fans are things. thinking, no, no, he's coming back home to, like, you know, run it up again and rap, you know. And I cautioned them against, for example, the Poushai-Chi thing. I said, listen, when Poo-Shik see gets like five to seven years, he's out in four. Of course he didn't learn a lesson.
Starting point is 05:01:51 I said, Dirk is facing life in prison. There is no middle ground. There is no, oh, okay, he's going to get 10. It's either he completely beats this and he has seen his mortality or he's completely cook regardless, it's no way he comes back and says, hey, let me keep rolling to die. You know? Yeah, no, I mean, and look, I don't blame him, bro. Like, I ain't going to lie to you, dude.
Starting point is 05:02:15 I was shocked that they played his music in the courtroom. Like, they played back again and a couple of other things. I was like, oh, wow. Like, you know, it's kind of crazy because, like, this era of hip-hop, man, like, they're actually playing, you know, typically we'll be considered, like, you know, artistic protection and First Amendment, you know, they're playing drill music in the courtroom nowadays, right? which shows that this is a completely different generation, right? If you look at hip-hop from the late 90s, early 2000s or whatever,
Starting point is 05:02:40 like, yeah, they talk about crime, but, like, you know, are they actually playing the music in the courtroom that matches up with the crimes that actually transpired? That's insane, dude. Like, so the fact that they played a lot of these songs and, like, you know, and you got to remember it from, like, a jury's perspective, like, these people aren't familiar with the music. They're not familiar with the culture or whatever. And, you know, they're hearing, like, back again, right?
Starting point is 05:02:58 You know, jam, get out that jamming, get a 50K, back again, whatever. Like, these are things that, like, wait, hold on. Like they're talking about it in their music and they played several different clips and showed, you know, all these, all this video of him wanting, you know, the problem is that the government kind of illustrated a story where, like, they created a motive. They created like an incentive. They showed how pissed off, you know, Dirk was from all this stuff and all the antagonizing of, you know, sliver vah, blah, blah, blah. So, you know, and then also it's kind of interesting. You know, they played your clip in the, in the courtroom, which is kind of unfair that they didn't let Dirk play his portion of the court. of the thing because I remember in that interview
Starting point is 05:03:35 he also said something along the lines of like we don't give a fuck about six nine but they didn't play that which I thought was kind of weird or the judge didn't allow it but you know they really allowed an enormous amount of music to come in that I was surprised about and like to a jury bro it's gonna look it just looks bad but you know
Starting point is 05:03:51 we'll see what happens here but yeah I agree with you that like yeah he's never going to be the same after this because they literally use his music against him yeah yeah and you know when it comes to a jury who might not be really in touch with maybe the culture or like maybe some of the ling or some of the antagonistic, you know, somebody might say, oh, they're smoking on X, Y, Z, but that doesn't mean that they killed that person.
Starting point is 05:04:15 They might just be trying antagonize, right? But given in a particular frame by the prosecutor, it could be like, hey, this person is a killer. This person is doing something that's not normal. Like, it's not normal that you're taunting your enemies and you're putting their name in songs talking about should have ducked and it's it's it could look horrible right yeah and then like you know saying like you know uh and and aha right he's like saying you know the feds will come you know go get your gun i'm like oh bro like you know like you know for like a random Asian bitch
Starting point is 05:04:51 from L.A you know what I mean like you got to put yourself in her mind like he's like oh no black back they'll shoot you guys will come it's like you know like they don't understand the context of this stuff so like they're listening to this you know the prosecution is saying like Yo, like he, not only did he kill this guy. Like, they made songs about it. And then, like, you play that thing right after. It's like, bruh. Yeah.
Starting point is 05:05:12 No, no, no. No, you're right. You're right, bro. Black man going to kill him. Oh, no. Like, you know, they don't understand. Oh, they, these niggins are medicine society, right? They, like, what do you say about my mother?
Starting point is 05:05:24 Like, that's what, that's their mindset on black people in L.A., unfortunately. Yeah. So that, that bias is definitely going to come in. And the fact that he's a gang member and everything else like that, like that, like, it all, just, you know, and I was actually like, because I was hoping, like, you know, from the, and I guess, you know, from a defense perspective, right? If I'm like, Brian Sealing stuff like that, like, I would try to keep that gang shit out of it as much as you can. But this is a problem when you're, and I tell anyone in here, bro, like, yo, if you're a member of a gang, like, you're asking to get fucked up because once it's happening all the time when you're a gang member and you're like in trial for anything, well, now they're going to have to bring in, you know, your gang, gang activity, you know, what the process is like of being a gang. I remember like the first couple days of the trough, I'm not mistaken,
Starting point is 05:06:04 like they had like an entire, you know, seminar on the black disciples and the gangsters disciples and how things work, et cetera. Like this is already going to be extremely unfavorable to a jury that's listening in. You know what I mean? Like they don't know any. All they know about gangs is violence, violence, so they're like, oh, okay, so this guy's a gang member, it already taints it, you know, to a degree. So that's why, like, being a member of a gang bro is always an L, especially like in
Starting point is 05:06:27 federal court in general because, like, they're going to bring all that shit in and to give the history in context as to why they will. want to kill this individual. It makes it way worse. Okay. Um, listen, Martin, I go a lot. I am spent, but I want you to own. Yeah, yeah, bro, you've been out for like 11 hours, man. I'm looking. I know. Yeah, I want to get your last, um, I, I want to push you on the spot here, but if you had to answer, and by the way, you know, tomorrow, I want to call you a little bit earlier, uh, because, again, we have a lot of dead space and a lot of time to kill. Um, I've just been going back and forth with people doing updates,
Starting point is 05:06:59 but, you know, um, me, you should have been, like, tapped into, Because these questions are usually what really gets people kind of intrigued. Hey, okay, you think we get a verdict tomorrow? What's your feeling based on just the type of case and also the fact that the jury did ask a question today? What are your thoughts? Are they getting there? I know there was some like debate about them getting transcripts.
Starting point is 05:07:20 Are they going to get the transcripts or is still not happening? So there isn't a request about transcripts. There's a request about the evidence. Apparently they had a folder. The transcripts are going to be digitally provided. tomorrow. So I guess it's going to be on a projector or something in the sort where not everyone's like huddling around maybe like
Starting point is 05:07:38 two or three folders or binders. They could see it digitally. But right now no request for transcripts. It seems like they just wanted whatever the evidence was, but in digital format. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I'll say
Starting point is 05:07:54 this. If tomorrow's going to kind of be like, I would say like a deciding day, if they don't give a verdict tomorrow, that tells me that they're bickering and fighting in the back, which is a good thing for the defense. That means that, you know,
Starting point is 05:08:09 one or more are unconvinced with the evidence and there's like some reasonable doubt within the jurors. So, yeah, so tomorrow will be the deciding day. So if we get a verdict, it's going to be guilty tomorrow. But if they don't get a verdict, that's good for, that's going to be good for Dirk and his defense team because that means that they're bickering in the back, which is always good for them.
Starting point is 05:08:28 Oh, wow. So for Dirk fans, it was probably more than likely to hope for and suggest and beg and pray that it seems like the waters are muddy and like there's a lot of discussion to be had and a decision can be made yet. Yeah, as a Dirk fan, like you want the deliberations to go as long as possible. I mean, look at Lindsay Clancy. They went literally days, right, deliberating. And then we ended up with a mistrial because one person didn't want to, you know, give in and say she's mentally insane. So the longer they deliberate, the better it is for the defense.
Starting point is 05:09:04 If we get a, if we get a verdict tomorrow, more than likely it's going to be guilty. I would say 89% chance is going to be guilty if we got a verdict tomorrow. And then as the days pass on, that percentage is going to decrease as far as I can be guilty. The longer it goes, the better for the defense typically. All right. Mara, thank you. I'm probably going to spend. I'm about to watch some Vlad TV versus Norrie and Busy and try to like.
Starting point is 05:09:30 Yeah. Yeah, bro. Yo, bro, this is like brain-rod stuff, but, like, I got to give my brain, like, some type of... No, no, bro. You've been out for, like, 12 hours, man. Like, I'm going to Arizona tomorrow, bro, but, like, after I do... I'm going to do some causes base and shit like that. But after that, man, if you're on, still on...
Starting point is 05:09:44 Because I'll be out west coast time, so I'll be a little bit ahead... behind you on time. So I'll just hit you up after, and we can chop it up if you want. I'm coming to brain risk out. I'll tell you when it's going to be... It's in Miami. It's a couple weeks, two weeks. Okay.
Starting point is 05:09:56 All right, so... Just let me know, bro. We can do this. We could do the push to ICA's. We cover whatever you want to cover when you come down. Of course. All right. Myron, thank you, brother.
Starting point is 05:10:05 All right, man. No worries, bro. Good discussion. Bye. All right. Appreciate you. Peace. Chat.
Starting point is 05:10:11 My brain is frazzled. Like, I'm not going to even cap with you. I'm about to, well, first of all, I was in the middle of watching this thing. I was in the middle of watching. What was this? This was the, uh, is this Charleston White? Oh. is Uncle Charlie
Starting point is 05:10:30 Uncle Charlie You know they go Call your ass up there for that appeal Nigel, nigga you intertwined In the case now You're in the closing arguments Nigel You got to know they call it
Starting point is 05:10:46 You know they call you for the appeal Nick You don't know what can save him right now Why do you think they just threw me in there Like the prosecutor The prosecutor try to slam dunk with They put me in a position You know I could have just
Starting point is 05:11:01 It's not to nothing. Listen, listen, the nigga, the only thing you got, nigga, the judge is on your side. He made, it's on the court document. It's the judge even said he's on your side. But now, nigga, they threw you in this case, nigga.
Starting point is 05:11:14 I felt like that was a little bit unfair. Like, they were trying to basically put the news around his neck and said, but, but, but, nigga, you're talking freedom of press. Nigga, you are not, you are not a, uh, you're not a YouTuber. You got a, you got a, you got a,
Starting point is 05:11:30 you, You got, you like, you got, you got, you like a, you got a, you got a, you got a motherfucker like a record label behind them. You're a real journalist. So, but with, with freedom of press, nigger, they try to keep rap lyrics out of court, but they can't. So they can't keep interviews out between you and Vlad, nigga. Uh, uh, uh, nigger y'all, I keep telling y'all the most credible hip hop journalist, niggas, uh, sent, since them, the source magazines. The niggas got caught up into the two.
Starting point is 05:12:01 Park, the East Coast and the West Coast. Nigger, you know that. I'm going to say that because they listen to your phone call right now. But, nigga, that interview... So you don't think they listen to my phone call. What? Man, uh, nigger, they listen to all I call, but, niggas, yeah, they listen to your calls. Niggin, you're talking to FBI.
Starting point is 05:12:22 Nigel, this is a... Nigel, you're talking career-making... This is a career-making case. This is a career-making case. Brian Steele already got myself But, nigga, the FBI Ain't for to let this slip like thug them got through, nigga, this is a career-making case.
Starting point is 05:12:40 When they, the next one, they win this, nigga, they subject to become Attorney General or Secretary of State. But listen to me, you have to understand the seriousness of this, nigga, you're in the closing argument. You got the judge on your side, right? Wait, wait, Charleston, I got to ask you to question. Should I have shut the fuck up
Starting point is 05:12:57 and just let them get whatever they needed to get off? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you, you, you, because I don't want to be seen as bucking at the system. I'm not the, Mr. Bucket at the system. But, but, but, no, no, nigger, you're more, you're more helpful for the defense than you are the prosecution. That's why whack, how you told you, niggas, shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 05:13:16 No, no, I know, but, but, but put it like this. I don't know if I want the prosecution to say, oh, man, we had this conviction, and then here come this academics fella. He's fucking it up. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, that that interview is going to be very crucial, right? Because they're almost saying that that's, the judge is allowing that. They're almost saying that's an omission of guilt.
Starting point is 05:13:41 His interview with you, nigga. Yeah. And your interview with six nine, right? So they're using that as the pivotal point, nigga, as probable cause. So when you came out and you said this during trial, they asked for a fucking this trial, nigga. When you said that. So they asked for a mistrial when you said that. So Wack says, act, you need to leave it alone.
Starting point is 05:14:10 Stop, man, let trap do it. You go on because, because, nigga, everything you're saying now, nigga, nigga Brian Steele him, they're that crafty, right? You just gave them a loophole. So you're saying, yeah, but hold on. So you're saying that, you know, if I feel like there's some truth that may could help, Like Wack was saying, hey, listen, man, Dirk made his bed already.
Starting point is 05:14:36 Don't get wrapped up trying to save a niggins. I'm saying the same exact shit, but just hear what I'm saying. Oh, man. That interview, just remember, that interview you gave with, that you gave with them, that was damn near a slam dunk, first 48 type interview of a confession.
Starting point is 05:14:55 When he said, they're not slams. They're saying your facial expression, you couldn't look at me now, nigga, that's in the court scripts. So check game, right? So that's using to convict him. So the judge said, hey, man, y'all not fair for doing this, but it was a good call. This was a great, but I vinyl DJ academics, I'll be mad.
Starting point is 05:15:13 So, nigga, you come back in response to that, said, man, I don't want to help neither that. Man, that shit was a script. You got some of the best lawyers in the country on his case. They took that immediately and said, hey, DJ academics said this was a script. So the prosecution cannot no longer use this damaging evidence. So the prosecution's scratching their hands and said, man, fucking DJ academic. They just shut his fucking mouth.
Starting point is 05:15:37 And Brian Stilton said, great, man, we're great. So they came with the, hey, man, we won't object. So they found a motion, right? So they found that emergency motion yesterday. The judge said, nah, uh-uh, I got to let it go. I got to let this come in. But, niggas, so that motion gives Brian Steele the defense if he found guilty to come back and win for a new trial on appeal. And that's when you come in, nigger.
Starting point is 05:16:02 and going to have to testify. So what you think? Do you follow me? Uh, nigger, uh, you in it no matter what. But, nigga, now you'll be called to testify if he found guilty because they're going to, they're going to use that because they used it to file an emergency motion yesterday. Last night. Okay.
Starting point is 05:16:22 So, but whack is saying, I should say, fuck, fuck them these. This is what I'm saying. Nigger, if it wasn't a script, you're going to be, once you go on the oath, you're going to have to say it. If this was a script or not. Oh, no, no, of course. Yeah, no, I definitely get that. No, of course, for sure.
Starting point is 05:16:41 So long as you don't purge yourself that way. No, no, no, no, I'm not into that. Like, I've definitely said that. I'm not into purging myself. Yeah, but, uh, but nigger, you know, between me. I'll say this, you know, and, you know, I'm going to, I'm starting to be measured with my words. The word script might be liberal, but the idea of a script, meaning that, uh, you know,
Starting point is 05:17:02 it wasn't just authentic that might come in the place. play. All right. But the words trip. Oh, man. I think the judge give you a way out
Starting point is 05:17:13 and give you a pass not to come to trial. Because the judge, so he went on record defending you. So you can't lose with that. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 05:17:27 what I was really initially kind of perturbed about was the fact that they were putting, you know, they were assuming, yeah, I covered the war on Shire. I did a lot with Dirk's career.
Starting point is 05:17:37 Man, listen, man, no, no, no, no. They assumed that I knew about the little pop thing. I never knew about the little pop thing when I interviewed him. Oh, oh. You don't know what phone, you don't know what they're hearing and listen to, right? But, nigga, we all know what they know. Without saying, we know, right?
Starting point is 05:17:55 Nigel, nobody you made, you became DJ academics. Nobody knew about kids in Shurak, killing kids until you brought this to the forefront. Right? They say you gave drill music its exposure. They've been saying that for years. No, nigga, you covered this shit detail by detail killing by killing, nigga. And you, man, them people, nigga.
Starting point is 05:18:19 And nobody's been more accurate. I've been following you for least seven years since I've been on the internet. Nobody's been more accurate. Sitting ass off a lot of, the law of police call me all the time. They hate sitting ass. But, nigga, nobody's been more accurate than you. So between you and Vlad, nigger, Vlad owns hip-hop historical content by way of audio.
Starting point is 05:18:42 That's a fact. And, nigger, you own Chicago's. Niggas drill, ding from, niggas, you really discovered all the niggas and brought them, to the forefront. So if you think them people, hey, went back in the doc, this is the FBI. They write up, nigga, they got all the information.
Starting point is 05:19:01 And, nigga, you know, I know. nigger when that nigga six-nine put that pressure on their motherfucking act on them niggins you know that affected them niggas they even brought that up being them people paying attention nigger i'm saying why everybody playing like they don't know nigger people paying attention nigger what do you think is gonna happen with this shit nigger uh he's gonna be found guilty he come back on appeal he's gonna be found guilty come back on appeal listen nigger what you did last night nigger you damn to fuck the jury up Now the jury, the jury is now requesting all digital evidence. They want to read the transcripts now. They father emergency emotion, nigga, that's the, that's the put on, on record for the appeal. And the judge said, okay, I see what y'all doing. And he knows they just threw you in the blender, nigger.
Starting point is 05:20:01 But you are a journalist, so, nigger, freedom of press. So, uh Uh nigger you never asked him if he killed him So they can't they can't say you know Yeah I never I asked them It's really but but
Starting point is 05:20:17 But nigger they're saying His response to your question Is your body language Because police and FBI Are very big on body language Nigger they're saying Your body language You could look him in the aisle
Starting point is 05:20:34 And he said that you Miggas nigger man Uh Yeah, yeah It don't seem serious because The way it's being covered But nigga, this shit serious Mm.
Starting point is 05:20:48 It don't seem serious, because the way it's being covered Or because of the outs Because we can't see inside the courtroom But nigga, nah, this shit's serious, nah, this is a major case, nigga And Brian Steal them Uh, nigga, they're banking on
Starting point is 05:21:07 On what you, on you saying This is script, Wins to appeal, Well, let me ask you a question. If so much is relying on me now, does it mean the case is good or not good or does it mean that the defense is good or not good? That means defense is not good.
Starting point is 05:21:27 Man, you got, man. Well, it wasn't, it wasn't good until you said, man, I don't want nothing to do until it just was a script. Then you shift, you shift the momentum, nigger. you shift the momentum. The jury don't know you said that. Right? The jury don't know you said because they can't watch TV, watch the news.
Starting point is 05:21:51 They don't know you said that. But you got to think, they spent a whole day doing closing arguments. In an average trial, that's maybe 30 minutes to an hour for the prosecution. The DA come, I mean, the defense come and do another 20-30,
Starting point is 05:22:12 and then the DA come close out with another 30. 30. They spent a whole fucking day, nigger. And in their closing arguments, you got to begin. The jury, most people don't remember the shit in between. They don't remember the first thing you said and the last thing you said. The last thing they're saying,
Starting point is 05:22:28 niggas, you're in the closing arguments. So much so that the court records will reflect that the judge had to come out and publicly defend you and it will be noted into the court transcripts.
Starting point is 05:22:44 That is deep So meaning, nigga, you're etched in a historical case Oh, man Nigger Why, nigga, no, no, no, no, I just been sitting back looking at it But no, nigga, no, no, they're wrong in the
Starting point is 05:23:02 motherfucker for doing you like this. Oh, but, nigga, uh... Yeah, they really... The prosecutor ended his case basically, like, I was... Like, I took a confession. Yeah, like you did an interrogation interview. Yes.
Starting point is 05:23:19 That's, that's what I'm telling you, nigger. Had you not said nothing, nigga, you couldn't let it smooth by. But, nigga, you gave blood. Yeah, yeah, but hold on though. Okay, but hold on though. If I said nothing, you know they hang Dirk with that saying, we're going to characterize this as a confession. and because he's not saying anything
Starting point is 05:23:44 and we get the last word it's going to go down supposedly like I got a confession so I'm like I gotta speak up I didn't take no confession from no nigger I know I know it's a below the bill tactic nigga it's a below the belt tactic nigga but nigga was a great tactic
Starting point is 05:24:01 nigga and yeah it was a great tactic but nigga you said it was a script that's that everything in court is about wording not about what I mean to say. I mean, you said it was a script. They're going to have to come ask you, was it a script? And if it is, can we see it?
Starting point is 05:24:29 Very interesting. This was like something sent from the heavens for them, for the defense. The prosecution probably slammed their pen on the table, scratched their head and said, Do you think without that Dirk would have been cooked? If I don't say that, is Dirk, is Dirk cooked? He have no win and no grounds for it. He don't have no standing for an appeal. Most niggas in the feds get over sentence and come back and win on appeals.
Starting point is 05:25:02 That's always been like that. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So it sounds like you're saying I might have gave dirt. You did. You did. You did. You did. On the grounds, are you willing to come back on appeal and then say it was a script and still
Starting point is 05:25:17 helping him and perjure yourself? Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't do perjury, brother. I'm saying. Yeah, listen. Yeah. Uncle Charlie, listen, you know me and you are one and the same, brother. We're not getting up there and doing any type of perjurance. So, listen, that's the underlying thing that I'm saying,
Starting point is 05:25:34 Nick, at some point, they're calling you to Swanobos. It's a script. Unless the juror said he's off limits, leave him alone. Freedom of press. Freedom of press. That's, yeah, that's for all those interviews from, they don't just go get anybody's interview. they're going to get credible motherfuckers.
Starting point is 05:25:58 They don't just get anybody interview, homie. They don't bring up the art of dialogue. Keezy-D went on there and said a bunch of shit, but they didn't bring that up one time. Yeah, why didn't they use art of dialogue? And by the way, you know what I was also thinking? I was also thinking, Dirk did a couple other interviews.
Starting point is 05:26:19 Why are they only bringing out my shit? A million dollars worth of game when I've considered real dream. journalist. Nigger, you are, you are considered a real journalist. Nigga, you got a record label
Starting point is 05:26:33 agency behind you that you signed to. They know that. They pay you. You're not an independent journalist. Niggas, them, they got some sponsorship
Starting point is 05:26:40 deals. You're a real radio kind of like, nigga Vlad is a real motherfucking journalist. It's a difference. So under law, the average
Starting point is 05:26:55 nigger just don't have those credentials when he comes through all that. object their hearsay, Your Honor. Such fucking plot. That's a fucking hearsay. Say T and T.C. That's a fucking hair say.
Starting point is 05:27:05 Dic. Dica Motee said a bunch of shit on real-life street stall. A real... Man, they ain't bringing none of that shit up. But they bring him Vlad interview up with Yellow Beatt when he act like he don't know Mow 3. Mm. By the way, that's a crazy case, too. Have you seen that? He's out of there.
Starting point is 05:27:25 He's out of there, nigg. Unless they're overworked of the jewelry because they got like a... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, who he means out of there? Yellow Beezie? Nah, Yellow Bezzie being that case, man. He beat that case, man. We all know he had something to do with it. You heard what Kiwan White said, man.
Starting point is 05:27:38 He said he's not snitching on nobody. He's not going out like Jamie the Bull. Hey, listen. Hey, listen, that black detective. Yeah. With the Braves in his hurl. Yeah. A bad, a bad nigga, boy.
Starting point is 05:27:49 When he get on you, he got to me. You saw how he was. He was, man. That nigga call him he smooth. And he a hip, nigger. And he a hip, nigger. nigger the reason why they won't say too much nigger because he brought earl spitz into it too niggins he's the reason
Starting point is 05:28:04 Earl spitz had the wreck when you go watch the nigga everybody knows that's why they had that nigga when Earl spitz had their wreck they had to get him he was chasing Earl spitz that night manna wait what that's why that's how he got to drop on the Honda him and Earl stayed in the same condo
Starting point is 05:28:20 wait are you talking on a boxer yeah nigga wait who was chasing him Mo Tree was chasing Earl Spence tonight Come on Come on Charleston I never lied to you
Starting point is 05:28:33 My nigga never I got Earl Spence team I brought it up on flag Nick Earl Spence team Been blowing me up Nicker begging me not to mention it Begging me, man please So wait wait wait wait
Starting point is 05:28:46 But how does Earl Spence fit in this Because Moe 3 When he made that song shooting in the gym That's what he was talking about He started putting up on Earl Smith fucking with him. Earl Spitz's yellow beaded and trap boy. There was a clinking one part of time.
Starting point is 05:29:01 Then trap boy fuck yellow bezy Earl Spins baby mama so then it was just yellow beza. But now so you go back and we'll go back and watch the footage on the wreck. You will see the Honda go by. That's how Earl, so Earl went on here and told him what car
Starting point is 05:29:18 he was driving because they stayed in the same condo. That's how nina-na-knit-da-knows. That's the car he was always spinning in. He talked about it in his records. And between me and you, That day after Mogad shot, Nika, Bousie shot itself, nigga, in the car. Who?
Starting point is 05:29:36 Boosie? Nigger, I would put you on the phone with the detective, nigger, let him say, hey, man, what, what, what, what, nah, Nogh, Bousie shot itself. See if you get the police. Nah, boozy and shoot himself. Come on, come on, come on. Ligger, outside of big team,
Starting point is 05:29:49 Nick, I ain't going to never tell you nothing fake. Nigel, I'm telling you, this is law and for him, but telling me. That's why nothing never happened. He was never, no, Nick, Bousie is accidentally shot itself. the car, nigga. That's why they never show no bullet holes outside the car where
Starting point is 05:30:06 Sprint and got shot up none of that, Nick. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Are we talking about the time he supposedly got shot when he went down? In Dallas. Yeah, when he went down out to the motorhome. Oh, I thought they said, oh, he was out there and somebody tried to kill him. Nah, he was sitting, he was inside
Starting point is 05:30:22 the Sprillman when he shot itself. He went to the memorial thing. And supposedly some some niggas who didn't like that he was coming down there picking sides and slid on him man he's saying that's trapped him now man the niggins nah man the niggins was still cool with bushy after that niggins trap him and then put no he now the niggins that's in the niggas that's going to trial right now for killing mot 3 killed mo 3 and were hanging with busi all the time
Starting point is 05:30:51 in the beach when he was alive and everything so so what i was told is that yellow bees he's not going down for this because, you know, I know they got that $40,000 he took out the thing, but they can't really prove it. They need the middleman. Keywon White was a crash out, and he's not snitching. Circumstantial evidence, but the other niggas
Starting point is 05:31:15 snitching, the baby mama who was actually fucking snitching. The big nigger who went and got Key Juan, he's snitching. That's all to take. He's snishing. Wait, who? That's the fight against Keywon.
Starting point is 05:31:29 The big nixon. The chick who Mo Three house was at Oh, is he snitched? He snitched on Key One. He's the big nigga who took the stand on Key One. Why did he mention in Tratboy Freddy, though? Trapp boy Freddy celebrated it, nigger, all on the internet. So Trappboard Freddy got in his car when Mo3 Body was still on the highway
Starting point is 05:31:47 and got in traffic and went live, nigga, and stole a ton. Man, they need to get this nigga body out of the road, man. And he took it up. And he made videos for days, nigga. And they let the project. And they bring, they use that as evidence. too. The niggas celebrated for days,
Starting point is 05:32:03 nigger made songs. Mm. Did he order the hit, too, or was it just Yelabizi? They all was in on it. That's why they're bright, niggas, they all was in on it. So you were trying to tell me that yellow Beasy really put a hit on Mothrace? Man, that nigga really shot Yellowbezi up and tried to kill him on the highway, I heard it was his security guard, though.
Starting point is 05:32:26 Nigger, he was there too, nigger. That's why he put it in a song. Let me go listen. Man, get to listen to that little nigga music. Everything he's saying in that music, he was doing to them niggas. So you're trying to tell me like Mothrae was terrorizing niggas? He was a minors. He was a minors to them.
Starting point is 05:32:43 The little bit of short motherfucker was a minx. And he was a minors. And he was a minors. I had to kill him. I got a video. It's a video of me. YouTube, right? I said, when they had to kill that little niggas.
Starting point is 05:32:53 He was a menace to him. Hey, Chad. Is Charleston speaking facts? I know Charleston don't be lying. But is he a little bit misguided? He was a minute, man. He was a minute, man. They tell me to listen to Summer called 219.
Starting point is 05:33:11 What's that? I don't know what's that. Man, go listen to him. Man, go listen to all this song. Nick, I am the truth. Me and listen, homie. He turned into an angry little nigga, homie, because he felt outcast in an outball
Starting point is 05:33:21 because he was the most talented nigga out of all the nigger. But the city didn't fuck with him like that, but every nigga in the city from Dallas to Fort Worth, to Grand Prairie. He's Texark and could sing his song, word for word. And he wasn't tall and handsome like them niggas. You know, they had the money. Look, that's why
Starting point is 05:33:38 he was the Pope. But now, nigga, he was on an up and coming. And then niggas had already came up. So, you know, one homework. Yeah, yeah, nah, he was a shot and start, nigga, but the radio wasn't fucking with him until he died. 979 wasn't fucking one. K-104. Or Bebe was fucking with him a little bit.
Starting point is 05:33:54 But, nigga, he wanted that love that yelling, trapped in him were getting on the big stage. He just got it in the streets. No, man, the nigger went hard for the Lord, and he had to tell him. So, he was way more challenging. So, explain to me how you think that,
Starting point is 05:34:09 because I feel like they're just not going to have enough to, you know, shit, they're having a hard enough time trying to convict Dirk. How they're going to convict Yelbezi? Hey, man, just hear me out. Hear me out. Do you think these people go to school and do all this, this is how they feed their families? Do you think they're going to get bullshit
Starting point is 05:34:27 when they come up against guys who can go get the best attorneys? They got over a hundred and something witnesses just for the prosecution alone. You think these people don't want to go 100 witnesses. Spent all these years collecting evidence and doing this, putting these dots together to have nothing. And you, well, you don't know. But, nigga, if you're from the city and you from this area in the Dallas-Ford Worth area, everybody knows. Everybody know. The streets know before the police know.
Starting point is 05:35:05 So we know the police and the streets go hand in hand. If the streets know, the police know. Come on, fam. They already got the shooter. Just because the shooter say, I ain't going to snitch. You know I already snitch doing the interviews over the phone, nigga. Hey. Before he went to trial.
Starting point is 05:35:26 Hey, did Yellow Bezzi have to pay out the Rainwater guy? For beating him up. He lost the lawsuit. Yeah, he lost that lawsuit. Wayne Water going off their royalties. So wait, so supposedly the story is that Yellow Beezzie really got Mo3 killed. I'll use the thing that I'm like, you know, listen, man, y'all just keep putting names together. Listen, listen.
Starting point is 05:35:49 Do you think, do you know how much money it costs for a county to go to trial? You think these people spending this money and it's nothing? made up. You think they're just putting this together because they saw a few rap songs. You think all this nah, homie, they're just listening to the rap music. They have to have some evidence to go along with the lyrics
Starting point is 05:36:13 to support the evidence that they're using to convict you for these lyrics you're using. They have to have some evidence that this is true. You think these people is doing this and they're just putting evidence together just to frame yellow be easy. Just to frame him. No, man.
Starting point is 05:36:31 The only chance I see him winning is they got a jewelry like the YSL trial and they get overwhelmed by so many jurors, I mean by so many witnesses. They got 100-something witnesses. They get overwhelmed and lost in evidence. But if they put that black detective on the stand like they had on Keywood and white trial, it's over with. Because, nigger, he put that case together. like a perfect mathematical equation. They got a nigga down to his dollars.
Starting point is 05:37:06 They got a bit. They got a nigga down to his draws. They called a nigga wearing the same drawers. I got $5,000 that yellow bzibing that shit, man. I got $5,000 he don't. For real? Big call. Big call.
Starting point is 05:37:19 Big call. Nick, bitch call. I got $5,000 he don't. Bit call. You got $5,000 he don't beat it? I got $5,000 he don't beat it. All right. to research us a little bit more
Starting point is 05:37:34 because I don't know why you're that confident. Man, I got me. You see, me got shit. And I got another five. That's a nigga want to call another bit. Oh, wait. Are you not cool with Yellow Bezzy? Yeah, I'm cool with Yellow Beezzie,
Starting point is 05:37:46 niggum, but, nigger, man, listen, when you know the evidence that they got and you look at the detective that can put the dots together, it's going to be hard to beat a dread head. You're saying that detective really got to figure it out like that.
Starting point is 05:38:02 Stay home and calm, paws, hard cut, pulled back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm betting on the evidence and a detective that's going to help put the dots together. Men and they put the dots together too smoothly.
Starting point is 05:38:19 And what he did to try to avoid it just wasn't good enough. What do you do? Okay, you got to break this story up because I think I'm missing something. Like, he won't be able to, he won't be able to explain. The phone call stopped As soon as he got back You pick up the phone calls Go make the bank
Starting point is 05:38:36 Go make the bank withdraw Nigger Kee Kewan pull up Nigel into the barn's off Stunting and Shining before they even get him With the money Nigel
Starting point is 05:38:44 Pade the cab paid the borr Up in the van The stuff that Key Warren took And then, nigga And then, nigga With Mow 3 Mama said That they use you
Starting point is 05:38:53 And he put his head down Crying You think The people ain't watching See right now He don't want to tell Nick Right now he don't want to tell
Starting point is 05:39:02 I think his trials start either next week or the week after ain't it Nicker, nigga, right now he don't want to tell But nigga somebody whispering his ear, man, we can snatch off this, this and that Nicky he broke down crime when Mow 3 Mama says she love him He ain't as tough as y'all thank you, you y'nick. Because the niggas, I know what he'd have told her would have grabbed his dick at her. Bits suck my dick, huh?
Starting point is 05:39:29 I don't need no love, bitch. Niggin' when my brother got 99, he jumped up flipped the table over. When the bailiff came over there, he tried to grab the bailiff gun. They had to rassing him down. That's how you're supposed to act. You ain't supposed to cry. You're supposed to cry later.
Starting point is 05:39:46 You ain't supposed to be in court and you gave your life to the Lord, nigger. You can't survive going to prison your first time with the Lord. Look at Julio, Julio, Fulio killer. He on his deathbed and got the Lord Jesus Christ that early, and the Lord didn't save him
Starting point is 05:40:01 from them demons in prison. You can't, you gotta wait, you gotta go through some, some lockdown, some solitary confinement, whoop a few big nigger parks before you go talk about you got the law.
Starting point is 05:40:12 You can't get the law in the jail. Hey, by the way, Charleston, I don't know what, I gotta tap more into this case. Somebody else hit me and say, Ack, if you betting, I got five that he don't beat it either. What the hell?
Starting point is 05:40:23 I'm telling you, nigga. I'm telling you, nigga. I'm telling you, nigga go tap your pockets. If you men, you better tap me in. What? Say, man, they ain't just got that nigga for nothing,
Starting point is 05:40:32 So, Charleston, this is my motto. They're going to double back your travel. I bet they double back your trap. This is my motto. It ain't what you know is what you could prove. And if he was doing everything in care, I know they got certain shit, but, you know, if they can't get them dead to rights on audio recording,
Starting point is 05:40:50 saying that, yo, hey, listen, go do this. Or I know the other one snitching, but they can't get them dead to rights. Remember, it's reasonable doubt. It's the same thing with a dirt shit. Reasonable doubt. murder of hire is kind of tough to prove The best
Starting point is 05:41:04 The best thing Dirk got, niggas that he never gave no money He actually gave him money Beez he made the withdrawal And Key One also was seen Nigel with the big large money It's gonna be hard to beat that one Wait wait wait
Starting point is 05:41:21 Are you saying that the best thing That Dirk did was he finessed a shooter Yeah that he didn't play the shooters Even though that was the worst thing That's what made him turn on him but that was the best thing for a defense in court. And he made no exchange to the shooters. That's his best, that's his best thing.
Starting point is 05:41:40 If I was the jewel, that's the best thing I would stick with if I were going with, man. Well, he didn't even pay the guys. They could have been doing it to impress him. They could have been trying to just give, you know, there's nothing else. He didn't pay him, nigga. I seen this thing, though.
Starting point is 05:41:54 I seen this thing. I know he went to get to go to the bank, and he got that money out, but he also went to the bank. every month or so, and he was pulling out cash. He, like, going to the strip club. He's like, you know, I know how y'all get down in Dallas. Like, y'all like to party.
Starting point is 05:42:08 Y'all like to have cash. They tracked his financial record. If you watch the motherfucking detective. They tracked his financial record. That digital footprint is a motherfucker, man. That digital footprint is a motherfucker, man. And when you're doing wrong, you're gonna make a mistake and slip up
Starting point is 05:42:30 because you cannot perfectly do wrong you cannot perfectly do wrong where you don't make a mistake you're gonna make a mistake doing wrong because wrong can't be right these niggas done wrong what's the problem if a nigger do wrong catching my body and going to jail for the body
Starting point is 05:42:54 ain't that's what it used to be like Nigger go through the time and brag about how he walked on a level four yard, nigga, and didn't have to go to PC and spend 18-year-old and come home and tell the story. Why, Dirk don't can't do that like the rest of the G-nickers? Until I see one of these niggas go down for murder. You know what I feel like this, Charleston, is because I've seen Hernandez-Govon beat that shit, and I realize how tough it is to beat these fucking murder for higher shits. You know why?
Starting point is 05:43:24 because a jury at the end of the day when they listen to even the motherfucking shooter say, yeah, that nigga gave me money or you promised me money. The jury going to look at it and be like, even if we feel you 98% right, that 2% possibility that you might be wrong, we're not sending a nigga down for life
Starting point is 05:43:42 just because your ass got caught. And I think that's the tough part, bro. Well, let me just say this. Dirk got more than one charge over his. ass. So you think goddamn out of four charge the nigger go bad, four for zero? Four, he'll go four and oh. You don't think one get him? He got four or five over there. And then when he gets through with these, he got to make way over her to the state for these other murders. So he can't beat everything, man. God damn, all that?
Starting point is 05:44:14 Wait, they got forensic financial experts. What that mean, Charleston? Didn't I tell you he left a digital footprint? I don't know to speak this kind of language. I was just watching the trial and heard the black man say he left a digital footprint, man. I'm just saying what the nigger said on stand. I don't know what a digital footprint is. I'm just repeating what the nigger said they said on stand. That's how they were able to connect the dots. Hey, chat, should I bet Charleston this 5K man?
Starting point is 05:44:40 I feel like Yellow Beesie about to beat this case, make a hit song, and they're going to be all good, man. Listen, this is Texas. Like, we all know that takeoff trial not going nowhere in Texas. in Texas, they, listen, it's all about who survived to do. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm going to tell you why. The takeout trial is not going over, because between J. Prince and Dr. Candice Matthews, they know who the county clerk here, the court clerk,
Starting point is 05:45:06 so they keep switching it around to the slow courts that got us backed up. So they keep putting it in the backed up court system. So they are intentionally doing that by way of J. Prince and Candice Matthews who helped the county clerk get elected. That's who moves the docket. But that's what I'm saying, though. We all know that that's going to be a not guilty. And that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 05:45:25 If they can't convict, if they can't convict the dude for takeoff, they're not going to convict no Yellow Bezzy, man. They're going to say, you know what about it. Hey, hey, Yellow Bezzi had the same lawyers that Carmelo Anthony had. That's how Carmelo Anthony got those lawyers. They was Yellowbezi lawyers. Yellow Bezzi, he was going to, in the county that's a, liberal counties who have quite a few black people on there but you got to understand
Starting point is 05:45:57 mo three is well-beloved now he wasn't so when he was alive but you know how it is when you die you know the mo three fans want to see somebody pay for this and go down when they show that boy body sprout out on that freeway and him running for his life and that nigga chasing him down it's gonna be hard man for the jewelry to ignore that it's gonna be hard and then and then when they And then when they show his best friend with his trap boy, Freddie, celebrating on the highway while the man body is still out there, ooh, that's going to be hard, boy. Because that nigger spent down there a week, nigga.
Starting point is 05:46:34 He was acting like he really paid to have him kill. And he celebrated, nigger. Talk about how they, nigga, he damneder made a confession. Nigel. So wait, trap lore, not traplore. I mean, trap boy Freddie was claiming the body, like he did it? He were claiming the body, nigger. he were claiming the body
Starting point is 05:46:52 nigger really he were claiming the body nigga man you gotta go back and watch this shit man he were claiming the body that's what made everybody turn on nigger that's what made everybody turn now niggins the whole city love
Starting point is 05:47:08 03 it's gonna be hard to find a jury nigger that don't want to see somebody else go with the killer because at one point in time the killer was making jail house phone calls dropping names telling name and saying he was going to tell you
Starting point is 05:47:22 he's talking about the same yellow bezy right that that's on me baby that that guy right it's on me baby it's on me yeah that nigga you're saying he he paid for the murder that's what the police and the judge and the question of me saying I'm not going to lie they had that goddamn detective up there for like a week
Starting point is 05:47:42 what the hell he was good too because nigga he was paying a Picasso picture of ever this The show. Nick, I was in, Nick, I was in the airport watching that Schmidt. That nigga planted a picture,
Starting point is 05:47:56 homie. And, nigga, he can articulate and put it together. And he looked him. He found him. He speak the language. He speak the lingo. Nah, that nigga,
Starting point is 05:48:06 nah. He's a defendant's worst nightmare. Really? He's a defendant's worst nightmare. This is what they told me about the case down there in Dallas. They said, this is not one of those situations
Starting point is 05:48:20 where you got the white detective who don't know, like he don't understand the language of the people, he don't know what the streets are saying. He said, this guy's like a hoodnigger. He knows exactly what's going on. Say, Miss Hummel. He liked the nigger who got thugged, you know. See, Atlanta police, detective tied him.
Starting point is 05:48:36 They didn't drop the ball. It was the prosecutor's office who dropped the ball fucking with Woody without a lawyer in the court room, in the courtroom that night. But, nigga, this, this, nigga, for one, Dallas got a police chief. say out of New Orleans. He'll fight any nigger. He'll fight the police. He's a real general. He's a real
Starting point is 05:48:56 leader. A hip, nigga. And then the Mexican's hip. Say, homie, they got a mesquist squad and some nigger detectives. There's like street niggas, homie, but they just cops. And they're hipped in a motherfucker nigger. They don't want to put the case together, nigger. I swear.
Starting point is 05:49:11 They spent time doing it. Remember, they took a tie. They took a while to arrest him. No, nigga, they took They did what they call police due diligence to get this boy. All they did, they do diligence. Man, you know, I'm a reserve judgment for now, but I'm going to be honest with you like. I give you 40 an hour.
Starting point is 05:49:32 Nick, I'm going to text you to say it to bed on. Because I think his trial started either Monday or in two weeks. Nick, I'm going to text you. I'm going to get fired out. I'm going to say, nigga, the bin on. Chad, they ain't convicting no damn yellowbezi. By the way, you know what I said about is Dirk trial in Yellowbezi? I said if Dirk, you know, beat the case and Yellow Beasy beat the case,
Starting point is 05:49:57 these niggas going to be putting, they're going to be ordering hits on niggas like his Amazon Prime. Trust me. No, no, no, no, no. They go put their skirts on. I mean, them long dresses like the nigger wore me through cuffy head. They're giving their life. They ain't going back to their old ways out to this.
Starting point is 05:50:12 They're the skirm straight now. No, no, no, no. I'm not talking on them. I said there's other rappers. You know, most of these rappers ain't doing shit themselves. No, no, no, no. Now we're realizing, you see, other than the Rico, they would be stupid.
Starting point is 05:50:24 Yeah, other than the Rico. I don't think rapers are that gangster as you try to. I don't think they're in a gangster no more. I think all gangster rappers have retired. Yeah, but what I'm saying is that I think what's been popular. And if you listen to the music, a lot of them talk about, yeah, I'm putting money on people's head. I think there's a lot of rappers who've been doing this murder for hire shit. I think these two cases.
Starting point is 05:50:49 You better quit saying that, nigger, because you're trying to tell it on the nigger. I don't think they're doing that. I don't think they got to look till. I know two of the kids who do with it. I just ain't trying to tell on them like that. One of them I don't like. One of them I don't like. Well, you got to know, nigger, once you say it out loud, they look at, we don't look at baby.
Starting point is 05:51:08 We don't look at them putting his, put money on the head. We don't look at, they know it too. That's why the federal investigation on me, they know. They know, too. Listen, listen. One thing we know about the shooters, we ain't found a shooter that go down by itself yet. Hey, we ain't found a shooter that go down by itself yet. Hey, hey, by the way.
Starting point is 05:51:30 Hey, hey, hold on. Could you tell me what's going on with the shooters now? I'm Charleston, the shooters nowadays is basically saying, if I'm going to go to jail for life, you coming to. Why the shooter is not just taking a rap normal? I thought the shooters. Because the shooters ain't living like the king. If the shooter were living like the king,
Starting point is 05:51:48 he'll take the route too. And then the shooter no, nigga, you're going to fuck my bitch when I'm gone. Ooh. Niggin, nine times out of ten, it ain't too many or handsome where to do, where put together looking shooters.
Starting point is 05:52:05 Oh, the shooter no, nigga, the nigga that put the money on the heads can fuck my bitch when I'm gone. So look at what I'm going to stay, Lord. You heard any, I all these are on the phone talking down. I don't know these people are on the phone.
Starting point is 05:52:18 phone talking down to their girl. All the shooters, including thug, nigger, was on the phone talking down to their girl about the niggas that down for them. Charleston, I'm telling you, I'm not going to call no names. But the murder for hire is the new
Starting point is 05:52:36 RICO. You got these niggas with a bunch of bummy niggas around them, and they say it in open air, they saying it in cold. They might even say it about you, Charles. Yo, if y'all see Charleston, you know, I got that 20 on them. I got that this on them.
Starting point is 05:52:54 They already know. Yo, let me tell you, there's a few of them that did some shit. I won't say nothing. They're sitting on their hands and watching these cases because I'm going to, listen, from what I was told, okay, they murder for hire as opposed to a RICO. You see, when you roll as a gang, they get to wrap up all the crimes on you. just murder for hire. And if you think about it's dirt case, the two niggas flock and brown eyes,
Starting point is 05:53:23 dirt don't know. So there's a saying where you get the niggas that not really connected to you and it's going to be too hard especially for local police to connect the dots from the shooter to you,
Starting point is 05:53:38 obviously, unless you yell a beeze and you go to the goddamn bank. You can't go to the bank. You can't go to the bank. That's only if you've been playing Grand Theft Auto would you think like that. Whether the two that's not connected to Dirk,
Starting point is 05:53:51 they didn't take the stand. They didn't take the stand. They got your best nigger. The nigger you putting in songs. The nigger you bragging about. Oh, they definitely put jams in there. The nigger, the nigger you bragging the nigger that you can call and come drop whatever he's doing and don't even know what he's coming for.
Starting point is 05:54:12 And when he show up and he said, hey, man, we're kidding somebody today. And they don't ask no question. They just kill for you. Hey, let me ask you a question. I see Top five. I'll call you later. So he asked me something. He called me and he said,
Starting point is 05:54:25 act, what's going on in America? He said, how come the shooters are the biggest snitches now? Everybody who's a shooter is the biggest snitches. They don't have shooters in Canada. They ain't got no shooters in Canada. They don't know what? The shooters is they kill somebody. Why wouldn't they snitch?
Starting point is 05:54:42 If shooters will take a life, nigga, why wouldn't they take your life by telling it? Shooters is the lowest song, nigga, of a street, nigga. So peep to play, right? Sammy the Bull was the baddest ever, nigga, nigga, and he told. Yeah, 19-bodies, huh? Check it out, nigga.
Starting point is 05:54:57 He heard his boss talking bad about it. Why, most shooters, bosses talk bad about him, talk down on, nigga. And then he could be like, I really can run the crew, nigga. I only reason he'd run the crew because he got money, nigga. The muscle always thanked the nigga with the money weak,
Starting point is 05:55:12 nigga. So why I'm going to go down for it, nigga? Wait, wait, hold on it. Hey, you said something before, and I piggyback on that. You said a lot of these shooters think the guy they're shooting for is a weenie. And then we hear OTF Jam said, apparently he was talking to his girl. The first thing he said to his girl, man, Dirk's a bitch. Dirk built his career off of me.
Starting point is 05:55:34 All shooters feel like they're about the nigga they're shooting for a nigger, unless the nigger they're shooting for is a shooter like Poochai-Sty. See, Pooch-Hist is a shooter that is shoot with the shooters. Hmm Now he See the generals that don't get on the front seat That that's what made George Washington a bad Muffling because he was a general
Starting point is 05:55:52 And fought and fought with the two Nick the president So wait you don't think none of these OTF, Tate Town All of these Lamb Ron Obloat knicks you don't think that they respected Dirk Nah
Starting point is 05:56:07 King Ron nah They ain't Dirk in your fucking King Von I don't even think King Ron Respected Dirk Nika, shooters, the only respect shooters. Shooters only respect shooters, homie. So you think that when, when, so there's a point where there was like, yo, they thought that Dirk was going to hit him with like a million dollars. You think that's a lack of respect.
Starting point is 05:56:33 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why, that's why the sentiment first chance he got, nigga, he put that nigga to sleep. He just didn't kill him. nigga he got a three year awful nigga to put this nigga to sleep
Starting point is 05:56:48 nigga why for one this nigga living good he'll now ain't getting married we can't call his phone no more we ain't having parties no more he then gave his life to Islam now we can't fuck with the bitches no more we ain't out jewelry shopping no more now nigga he'll put the he don't cut the lights out
Starting point is 05:57:07 on the flame now because a little he's done came on now he's wearing coofees now he practicing Muslim shit nigga we were bawling for then when it was all good nigga we was turned up nigga, we can use the card now. We can't use the card no more. This nigga to cut the water off,
Starting point is 05:57:21 cut. Yeah, but you know, and by the way, this is a legend. You don't think, like, Dirk, like, apparently somebody reached out for peace, and he said to the person, peace, nigga, you're going to catch a piece of this switch. Like, it seemed like
Starting point is 05:57:37 he was kind of about that life. Oh, man, 6'9 had to niggins in a bunch, homie. No, you can't you can't get that credit to 6'9. That's my message. You know, but I can't give it this. Hey, look, I used to sit back and watch him online.
Starting point is 05:57:52 I used to watch him antagonize them. I used to watch him antagonize them. His ego was too big, nigga. His ego was too big. And 6-9 was major at the time. He was going overseas, fucking with the latter people. So his momentum and his movement was big. Are you trying to tell me you think that 6-9 tricked Dirk off the streets?
Starting point is 05:58:13 And there's no way possible. The FBI don't waste time. The FBI don't waste money. The FBI is centered around information. They don't give it down. How much fucking money you got? They want information. You cannot buy your way out of the fees,
Starting point is 05:58:32 but you can tell your way out, right? Listen, homie, there's no way the FBI have collected this information, aka data, aka evidence, and is bringing up your name and six-nine name, and they don't know for a fact that this is accurate, nigga, and this is live.
Starting point is 05:58:50 They're hanging people lies based on this. You goddamn right, I know for a fact, because the FBI wouldn't be saying it either. I ain't going to keep it. Go on and get top five, nigga. I ain't going to take up all your time, nigga. Now, are you going to be a brand risk? I'm coming down there.
Starting point is 05:59:08 You got a vibe. We got to go out. Yeah, yeah. We didn't talk for me the end of year, December. So I'm going to be there for October, and then I'm supposed to be fighting in December. What?
Starting point is 05:59:16 Oh, no, now, come on. I'm going to screenshot you the message so Aidenham just hit me up last night You want to know man we don't we don't even need we don't even need another one man you good Hey man yeah yeah man hey man a loss ain't ever hurt nobody niggas say sometime you got to wins come with losses losses come with wins yeah yeah nah but i don't plan on lose I know you're gonna make Aiden make it worth your wild man your shot to you yeah I already man you have a good my niggra all right bro peace peace Damn, man, I love talking to Charleston White.
Starting point is 05:59:52 I love talking to Charleston White. That's the best 49 minutes I might have spent all stream. Chat. Oh, we're at 12 hours. Everybody spam Ws. Real quick also. I just need y'all to do one thing for me. I need you y'all to go right here.
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Starting point is 06:00:26 My internet company stiffing me. I might need some bail money when I catch one of these internet niggas, man. Dead ass. Okay, I might need some bail money. So please, cop something off the site. Buy anything. It's a free dirk at checkout for 30% off. I might need some bail money when I run into these internet niggas, man.
Starting point is 06:00:47 These internet niggas, what I mean the internet niggas? the internet at my house, that ISP is playing with me. Like, they got me in a group text. You want me to read you the message they got? You want me to read you the message they got? Like, yo, chat, it's like they want me to crash out. You want me to read your message?
Starting point is 06:01:05 I'm going to read you the message. I'm going to read you the message. This nigga hits me up. He says, I'm the supervisor. So I tell him the whole thing. I'm like almost damn near. You know how Boosie type in all caps? I'm almost doing that.
Starting point is 06:01:17 She says, he says, yes, sir. I forwarded to the department that it handles the outside work because I told me it's not in my house. I handled the text that work inside the house. Niggins, so why the fuck is you messaging me? Whatever. Here it is. They're aware of the situation already.
Starting point is 06:01:37 I just don't know when they're going to send a truck to fix it. I don't know when. The equivalent of this is you bringing your car to the shop. You're saying there's a problem with my engine. and they send the tire supervisor to come haul at you. Yeah, I know you got a problem. What you say? It's in an engine.
Starting point is 06:02:05 Yeah, well, I'm the tire supervisor. I'm looking at your tires. Your tires look kind of cool. You're like, motherfucker. The problem is in the engine. Oh, yeah, we heard about that too. I don't know what we're going to get to the engine, but I'm going to let you know your tires is good right now.
Starting point is 06:02:23 Yo, chat, I see why Dirk may piss me off. I'm about to crash out I'm about to piss me off by I'm about to crash out I see what's that line what's that line
Starting point is 06:02:44 well I ain't popping no pills all right okay but he said I pop pills on till I pass out I'm about to crash out man shouldn't brought him on you alive now he can't laugh now and my favorite gun to switch you know that shit All right.
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Starting point is 06:05:02 Here we go. Oh, maybe he's busy. Yeah, academics. The biggest demon in Toronto. Yo, there's no way to trust in West. there's no shooters in Canada. You know, I don't think, you know, I don't know if his passport was stamped yet.
Starting point is 06:05:24 You know, Charleston, you know, he's a Dallas guy. And also, I think, you know, when you come from Texas, I think you kind of think that all the guns are in Texas, you know, and, you know, he probably don't. Bro, you see what they did. You see what Jay Princeton them did over there. Don't do that, act.
Starting point is 06:05:40 You can have him say there's no hitters in Canada. No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is that I, of course, understand. but I see, you know, people in Texas, because Texas is like a gun state, they feel like they got all the guns. You get what I'm saying? Like gun crimes don't happen everywhere. But, you know what?
Starting point is 06:05:57 I don't understand. Why does the biggest rats feel like they have the most to say? Like, you know what I mean? Like, you guys rat are like Charleston, white, 6-9. Like, come on, Ack, bro. Wait, but the 6-9 really, they said 6-9 is a civilian. He didn't really, you know? No, 6-9 was portrayed to be a member, bro.
Starting point is 06:06:14 Cut it out, act, bro. You ain't being real, bro. You know Dirk's coming home too, right? You know that, right? No, Smirkyo hopefully comes home. They're doing all type of weird things. I've never seen these type of things before, man. You're a real nigga.
Starting point is 06:06:26 I see what you did. What do you mean you see what I did? What does that mean? You're a real nigga. I see what you be doing. You're a real nigga. You know, you know, you know, I'm watching that act. You see me tell the truth.
Starting point is 06:06:40 Yeah, you told the truth, obviously. Come on. I'm a civilian. I ain't got nothing to do nothing. But I do want to say this, because me and you were having a conversation yesterday, and you said something to me, and I started thinking about it. It does feel like all the shooters now, and I don't want to make it an American thing, the biggest shooters are the biggest snitches.
Starting point is 06:07:00 I swear to God. Jam me the bowl. He's on the stand. What's going on right now? To believe you need a reservation, they won't you know. I swear. I swear you're not lying, but you can't say that. Trevor, bro.
Starting point is 06:07:16 There's some shooters that do not snitch. I'll tell you straight. I'll tell you straight. I don't know what's in the American water. What's going on over there? But damn, every fucking week is something new. Well, let me explain, like, especially in this case. They said they locked the guy up for a gun.
Starting point is 06:07:34 And they said he was only facing like three, four years. And he passed the cops of notes. And he said, yo, I know about a couple bodies. I won't lie to him. He has some hate for Dirk. For you to snitch and only get off for three years? Oh, my God. That guy has some hate for Dirk.
Starting point is 06:07:53 But how much years do you think he's going to get? Man, I really don't know. But, like, it's shocking to me that these days, it's normal for the shooters. The two out of the three people tell him on Dirk is a shooter. You see the yellow breezy keys? Well, that's what Charleston White was telling me. Bro, this is crazy. No, but I think, yo, bro, they allegedly said they never got paid the millions.
Starting point is 06:08:20 And that's an idiot thing because everything's fake, you know what I mean? Wait, hold on, hold on. You know, let's play this hypothetical game, you know, obviously this is, this is, hold on. We got to do the Dirk, the Dirk disclaimer. This shit is not real, okay? Obviously, I know that. But if we were playing GTA and we were like, you know, a hypothetical conversation, Yeah.
Starting point is 06:08:44 I've heard people say both ways. You tell me what's the right way. Dirk supposedly didn't pay his shooters. Some people say that's the right thing to do. You pay the shooters, you're in jail. Some other people say, oh, that's why he fucked up. You've got to pay his shooters. No, no.
Starting point is 06:09:04 I know he has nothing to do with that. But hypothetically, yeah, you got to pay the shooters. You got to pay. You got to. care of the shooters, man. There's no... Wait, wait, wait. So I thought the new way is like you got to keep the shooters starving.
Starting point is 06:09:22 No, ah, man. You make a problem. No, I know, I know. Let's take it off of dirt. Like, you know what I mean? But we're looking at it. There's a lot of these type of cases. By the way, there was a case with, um...
Starting point is 06:09:33 Well, you know, can I still a question, huh? Yeah. Can I ask you the best question? Yeah. Allegedly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 06:09:38 Yeah, yeah. Come on, $40K from the ATM, man. Come on, man. Well, how do you pay your shooters then? Like, you can't send them a wire? You send them a wire? I guess. Okay, hypothetically, hypothetically,
Starting point is 06:09:52 what's the best way to pay your shooters? They just did a big one. The news is buzzing. Do you PayPal them, cash app, Zell, money transfer, e-transfer? There's no, no, no. Nothing with your name on. So if they ever play this in court with me, I have nothing to do this.
Starting point is 06:10:12 I'm just answering on hypothetically. What's that what, hypothetically question? How do you pay your shooters? Like, yo, of course. I got to go to the ATO. Yo, my shooter coming and says, yo, act. Yo, act, I thought you were paying me to 50 bands. I say, oh, hold on.
Starting point is 06:10:26 Wait a minute. I go fill out the withdrawal slip. I sign my name and I get the cash. What's the problem? That's not how it works? You can't go to the ATM. You can't go to the bank. No, no.
Starting point is 06:10:38 I'm going to go through the job. drive-thru, like, yo, like, my bank got a nice drive-thru. You go to the drive-thru? You know me? You know me, I run to America when I get framed. You know what I mean? Allegedly, allegedly, they said, I cut off my ankle on and run right away. Yeah. Yellow-Brizi's on bond. Tell him the first thing he should do is book a first-class friend Italy. Wait, wait, no, no, no. I think Yellow-Beezy going to be straight. You know what I mean? Apparently, apparently when he took the money out, he'd go to the strip club all the time. He's a big trick. He's like a little baby.
Starting point is 06:11:11 Nah, bro. You know all these prosecutors are going to eat this up, bro. He's innocent, though. But you know how to eat that up, bro. 40K in the fucking strip club, what do you drink? Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Yellow Beas? You know, by the way, if everybody knows... He's innocent. He's innocent. Free yellowbezy.
Starting point is 06:11:26 No, in Texas, strip club culture is crazy. Like, yo, it's crazy. You don't think that... Wait, all right, okay. How do you pay the shooters? Do we pay the shooters in installments? Crypto. Crypto. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 06:11:46 All right, hold on. How about this? How about this? Because I think this is what the prosecutor was hinting at that Dirk was trying to do. Like, yo, bro, I can't give you the whole money right here. I'm going to give you $10,000 at a time. Chill out. $10,000 just trying to see Dirk promised?
Starting point is 06:12:00 Yeah, well, how much is it for a shooting these days? Like, what's the cost? Yo, bro. What's the market? Like, hypothetically, like, what, what, what? what they've been talking about for like, you know what? Like, I mean. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 06:12:13 Ain't nobody shoot him for those $10,000 academics. What? Yo, you know what they say? Jam got 10 grand for appearing in his own video. I said, that was the money for the shooting. Niggas don't get paid to be in their own video. Like, come on. Like, y'all.
Starting point is 06:12:29 No, no, no, no, no, no, of course. That's record label business. Anyway. Yo, but yo, OTF. Wait, wait. Is 10,000, two months? Or two low. Because I've always heard Wack 100.
Starting point is 06:12:42 Ah, I swear to God, you can't tell none of my niggas to put him work for no $10,000. Now, Wack 100 say that a body could cost $1,500. Like, he said on Clubhouse all the time. Where can I buy that? You got to go get Watt 100 niggins. He said, yo, 1,500 gets a body. No fucking way. You're telling.
Starting point is 06:13:00 I'm serious. I swear to God, I can love you, they tell him. Yo, yo, chat. Y, y' never heard Wack 100 say $1,500 get a body? Yo, you'd say I'm fucking 1500 for a fucking body They're riding on you I swear to God they're riding on you Yeah, but if you give them a million
Starting point is 06:13:15 They're gonna be flexing so much They damn near riding on you like Yo, yo, they say yellow Beezzy gave the nigga the money They say yellow Bezzi gave the nigga the money He went into his probation office And like officers office And start making it rain And they looked at him and said, nigga, you've been broke for
Starting point is 06:13:31 mad long How you got all this bread? Yo, I swear, I Word of God, let me tell you something, bro. Let me tell you so, bro. This is why Derek seemed to get acquitted tomorrow. There's no way that those that let shooters think they're getting paid a million dollars. No, hold on.
Starting point is 06:13:50 All right, well, that's what I was going to say. So, like, if your shooters start taxing you like a mill, like what's, like, how do you negotiate? How do you negotiate? I'm running. Yo, your shooter said, yo, he won a mill. I'm running. I know they're about to tell. I'm running.
Starting point is 06:14:10 40,000 yellow bees he said, you know what I mean? So 40,000 is like a little bit better, but if your shooter expect 500K, like one of the niggas showed up to Dirk concert and supposedly he, he looked at Dirk and he's like, yo, what's up with that bread? And Dirk say, yo, bro, you can't come to me and ask for no money. Go over there to Boney Moe. He said Bouti Moe looked at him and said, yo, Dirk told me it's 20,000, nigga. He said, what? So wait, if your- You're lying.
Starting point is 06:14:40 If your shooters really thought it was getting a half a mill, do they respect you or they really think they finesse in? Yeah, I love. The academics. Yo. Hello. Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Starting point is 06:14:58 Oh, can you hear me? I hear you. You can't hear me? Yeah, I hear you know. Perfect. Sorry, I. Now, listen, if my shooters say they want 500,000, they're at it. There's nobody that gets paid for a hit-to-fire on the care.
Starting point is 06:15:11 It's too much money. It's too much money. You hear me? There's a big academic. No, I get it. No, I get it. I get it. So why the hell that niggas thought it was going to get...
Starting point is 06:15:24 Yo, no, all right. All right, so let me give you the full story. By the way, this shit is all lies. This is what the prosecutor was told about. Apparently, they said Dirk made a statement and said anybody who get Cuando, they're going to be set for life. So a nigga going to shout out, set for life. You mean like half a mill or a mill?
Starting point is 06:15:42 So that's why they thought. that. Bro, the realest guy in that set, let me tell you this, everything's alleged. The realest gangster that says move up. Yeah.
Starting point is 06:15:52 That's the realest gangster that's set, man. And then a couple other real niggas, you know what I mean? But everybody else looks like there's a soul. You know what's so crazy? Yeah.
Starting point is 06:16:01 Biggest downfalls of shooters. That's the only thing I'll tell you right now. You know what somebody said? And again, this is hypothetical. They said, Dirk should have just got somebody to get rid of the shooters.
Starting point is 06:16:16 You're like, yo, you know what I'm saying? Like, yo, you got to get rid of the shooters. You know what I mean? Like, is that a thing? Is that a thing? No, that's not a thing. Okay, okay, okay. No, no, because you got to remember,
Starting point is 06:16:33 Dirk supposedly didn't get his guys to do it. So he got some randoms, like, except Jam. He got some randoms. So that's why they're saying, yo, just, you know, dusts out the rest of the shooters. and they can't tell on you anyway. You know what I mean? You know when Dirk beat to him and Dedy
Starting point is 06:16:49 are going to have a movie about the lock? You're going to have a movie. Dedy and Dirk, I swear to God, there's a new Shook Night and Tupac. Wait, so, wait, I just want to, so that's not a thing, hypothetically.
Starting point is 06:17:02 If your shooters, you don't clean up the scene like you're, all right, bet, the shooters just did the move. We know the shooters is now a liability for life. So you clean up the shooter. See the game?
Starting point is 06:17:13 You're crazy. That's not a thing. You know, you're crazy because... That's a movie. I see it in the movies all the time. Yeah, but you can't do it. Yo, I can't. You know, I can't.
Starting point is 06:17:21 You tell you, John was a serious guy before you read it. A serious guy. That was what you call the modern-day crash-out. Ooh. That was a modern-day crash-all, but you got to understand, bro. He's going to beat it tomorrow. I swear to God, they're going to have a verdict by 11 a.m. probably.
Starting point is 06:17:38 11 a.m. 12 p.m. 11 a.m. 12 p.m. not guilty on all charges. So if he gets not guilty, what is jam? What happens to jam? Shit. He going to be a witness protection. No, does he come out of jail?
Starting point is 06:17:54 If Dirk beats it all? Nah, they won't give him some time still. But they're not coming out of jail, he has another case. What, another murder case? Yeah. No, man. All right, let me ask you a question. Let me ask your question.
Starting point is 06:18:09 Do you pay for a lawyer for? for your shooters. When your shooters get caught up on some shit that got nuts. All right. He bended the shooting. It's over with. Two years later, he kept some other bullshit.
Starting point is 06:18:23 He's doing a little of drugs. Like, here's my thing. You're responsible for your shooters for life anytime they come in contact with the police. You know why? They ask her, write a note.
Starting point is 06:18:33 Why do you try to say that, you can't say that, bro? No, no, no. They might write a note and say, and they got to know about some bodies. If anytime they're in custody, it's your job to throw a little money to get them out. You know what?
Starting point is 06:18:44 That nigger might feel hopeless, and he said, I know about some bodies. And you know which bodies he's telling about? The one that you paid his ass to go do. You know, academics, you are the funniest guy in North America history. Yo, hold on. Let me ask you a question. Wait, no, no, but, am I wrong, though?
Starting point is 06:19:03 Like, so here's the thing. Dirk supposedly paid for the body. Little Pop bid dead. They've been smoking on him, like, no disrespect to his family and everything. And Jam go catch another case, a gun with a switch. Does Dirk got to throw some money for that? Or Dirk is like, yo, listen, bro, that ain't got nothing to do with the job I hired you for. I swear to God, you're going to say I'm lying.
Starting point is 06:19:29 It has none to do with the job. Nah, stop it. I'm just talking about my, like, if that was me, I'm not giving none of them nothing. I swear to God. And then he's making a statement on you. The job's done. What you mean the job's done? You got to keep that man out of police custody.
Starting point is 06:19:50 So hold on. Let me ask you a question. I know you're busy, Acker. You have like 70, 80,000 people in your fucking stream. There comes home tomorrow. Is he the biggest rapper in history? Smirkio? Now, if Smirk comes out, he's the biggest gangster ever, ever.
Starting point is 06:20:08 You know, his first interview is going to be with you, right? Right? Man, I think I'm going to have to pass that one up. I'm going to tell him don't do no interviews. No, it's going to be scripted again. It's going to be scripted again. Oh, yeah, we do a little scripted thing, you know? We could do a little scripted thing.
Starting point is 06:20:20 And duty has to be sitting right beside him, Ak. Nah. Why not duty, Ag? Why not do it? Yo, shout to duty, man. No, man. Act, shout on my dog, Tino. He's covering the best L.A.
Starting point is 06:20:37 footage of Dirk's child, man. You, cousin? Now, I think he's going to beat it still, but I'm not going to lie. Yeah, they got Dutie's name all in the paperwork, man. No, but you need more friends like Dutty Lowe, bro. Look, he shot the video out of the courtroom. He's doing everything, bro.
Starting point is 06:20:56 He spent $2.85. Come on, Ack, bro. Come on, Ack, bro. You need more friends like duty, bro. Listen, Ack, I'm watching this football game. I love you, Ackma, brother. Oh, man. You'll be on my 12 noon, right?
Starting point is 06:21:11 Yo. Yo, just, you know, I'm like, that's got to tell Dulya, man, keep his hands off India, man. You know what I mean? No, no, you know he's looking at India, man. No, I told him, I said,
Starting point is 06:21:20 no, you know I told Doolo, nigga, you better leave India and go to Pakistan, niggas. You got, you got, you better leave. You know, you don't do that. No, man,
Starting point is 06:21:30 dude is walking to the car for T-shirts, you better leave India and go to Pakistan, man. If Dirk is, if Dirk is who the fed say they, say he is. nigga, I ain't going to lie to you. Don't think them jail bars
Starting point is 06:21:41 gonna stop nothing, nigga. I ain't gonna cab with that, nigga. Your act, I love you, my brother. Your act, I want to call it later tonight, my brother. Love act. I love my brother.
Starting point is 06:21:52 Oh, Chad. Chad, 12 hours, man. Yo, I really, 12 hours and 30 minutes. And you know, I did an hour and 30 at the crib. So that's 14 hours. That's 14 hours. I was, chat.
Starting point is 06:22:16 Low key, I got 53 minutes until midnight. Should I just call it right now, chat? I know I said I was going until midnight, but it's basically there, bro. It's 53 minutes till midnight, bro. Oh, man. What fuck is this? My bad, chat. Holy shit.
Starting point is 06:23:20 I want to give a shout out to everybody who cops some merch, man. I appreciate y'all. I know y'all see the grind, man. man I'm grinding like this is day one again bro again the academy that shop I do appreciate each and every one of y'all let me just give these shoutouts real quick man
Starting point is 06:23:35 uh shout out to shout out to Calvin appreciate you shout out to torrance I got to click on each one because I'm not on my computer shout out to oh
Starting point is 06:23:53 that's a nice that's a nice outfit Shout out to Alvita. I don't want to docks y'all, so I'm not seeing your last name. Shout to my boy, Tori, out of Houston, Texas. Shout to Monet out of the Bronx. Shout out to Isaiah out of Mansfield. And shout out to Ryan out of St. Petersburg.
Starting point is 06:24:22 Also to Antoine out of Memphis. Justin out of Miami. It's a bunch of your chat. I'm sorry. Austin out of, what's this? Antico? Antichot. Antioch.
Starting point is 06:24:42 It's in California. And a few more here. Kenneth out of Jacksonville. My boy, Brandon, out of Chesapeake. I love Virginia. Next year we're doing a show in Virginia, man. Virginia or DMV area, okay? Anthony out of Albany.
Starting point is 06:25:02 Wait, there's Albany in Oregon? I mean to say your state, but usually Albany is like New York. and my man Durel out of Portsmouth, again, Virginia. All right. Thank all you guys. All right. Damn, I was watching some shit. What was I watching?
Starting point is 06:25:21 Chat, I'm, you know, I'm going to make you do what to do. I got 50 more minutes. Rock out with me, Chad. Don't abandon the mission. It's only 50 more minutes, okay? We were watching some shit. What were we watching? Oh, this is we're watching.
Starting point is 06:25:43 to his homeboy and then on the same line that I've reached out to you, you reached back out to me on it. You know what I'm saying? But I apologize to my homeboy, you know what I'm saying? Because that's where it starts and stops. Somebody got to apologize. They was wrong. I was wrong. And then a couple of months later, in August 2021, Cuondo is in Los Angeles on a trip the year before the death of Little Pat. And on this trip, he would appear in a sit-down interview with Big You himself, the ridiculously titled, Checking In podcast on World Star Hip. With Big You starting off the podcast, welcoming Quintosh. to L.A. Checking in for my young fella, Kwondo.
Starting point is 06:26:16 What's up, y'all fella? What's up, y'all fella? Cool. You're in California, huh? You did? You see? You know what I'm saying? Man, I'm glad to have you, man.
Starting point is 06:26:28 These two would seemingly patch over their past feud and exchange mutual apologies, with Big U elaborating saying that his nephew... Oh, chat, I could finish watching this tomorrow? My bad, my bad. Let me watch the DJ Vlad thing. I could give a little bit of reaction to it, okay? it okay Vlad responded to Nouri and Boussi let's see if we get through both of them where we're at with it let's start with I want to do Nouri first chat you got you guys have seen
Starting point is 06:27:11 this beef all over um I'm just reacting to it you know we've exhausted this smirk trial we're back on it tomorrow I'm going to literally pop back up here I believe 9 a.m. maybe 10 10 the latest I think 9 a.m. That's what we try to do. But, um, yeah, just let me react to some non-smirk shit for a while, all right. All right, here we go. This is DJ Vlad of Vlad TV. And as some of you may know, I've said some things about Nori. He said some things about me and is still going. So let's go ahead address some of the stupid things that Norrie said recently. Now, just the other day, Norrie called in on his phone, not video, on his phone to Hot 90s.
Starting point is 06:27:58 this is the most boomer thing I have ever heard of. Like, Nori must think this is still 1998, right? He called in on the telephone to diss me and talk about me on the Hot 97 Morning Show. Now, the thing is, and I didn't really realize this when I first started having my issues with Nori, is that Nori's a special ed student. And look, for everyone who's got kids who are special ed, I'm sorry. I don't want to insult you guys, but this is what happens when you give a special ed kid a big platform. I was in special education. I never learned language. I'm not sure if I know how to read, but I'm here.
Starting point is 06:28:48 And T.O. Jok. Okay, guys. Doing special ed shit on a large scale. On the internet, it's crazy. And this is what we're seeing right now with Nori. So let's break down some. the things that Norrie actually said. First of all, he said, Vlad only beefs with black people. Nori, if you do just a little bit of research, just a little bit of tiny research,
Starting point is 06:29:10 she'll see that I've had beef with a bunch of white people. Me and Peter Rosenberg, I've been calling him a broke-ass bitch for like a decade now. Fuck Peter Rosenberg. Someone... Nah, Vlad on timing, man.
Starting point is 06:29:23 Flat on timing, bro. Yo, I feel bad for Peter Rosenberg. known as the loser white guy, bro. Like, he's like the, he's like the hobo, the bum. He's like the guy that everybody just, like, kicks the cup, like, why you're walking by? Yo, Peter Rosenberg, man, you are disappointment because, my nigga,
Starting point is 06:29:43 how you, between you and combat jack, because you had the show with, uh, what's homie name, um, cipher sounds, bro, yeah, damn near invented hip-hop podcasting with, um, combat jack and him. And, nigga, yeah, the biggest losers, or you the biggest loser.
Starting point is 06:29:58 What the fuck? How could you, you can't invent something. It's like a nigga inventing basketball, like being the brokest nigger while LeBron is making $700 million. Brough, how did this happen? Anyway.
Starting point is 06:30:12 Mentioned me boxing Peter Rosenberg, and I'm like, all day, I'll do that shit. I'll smack him around the ring. He's a pussy. Yeah, uh, fuck Peter Rosenberg. Straight up and down. I called him a bitch just the other day. Rory, have it like Rory.
Starting point is 06:30:26 Have it like Roaring forever. Talk shit about Rory multiple times. I've talked shit about Machine Gun Kelly. Me and Lord Jammar, we used to have criticisms about Eminem. Eminem even responded on some of his songs. Who else? Scott Adams, who has passed away at this point, but the creative Dilbert said a bunch of racist stuff.
Starting point is 06:30:46 And I was like, fuck Scott Adams. He responded. We had some back and forth. He blocked me and so forth. When someone's on some bullshit, I don't care what color they are. But Norrie wants to use the black angle. Oh, look, Vlad called me out for being a dirtbag, for being a piece of shit. So the first thing is, oh, Vlad's racist.
Starting point is 06:31:04 Vlad's racist. Everyone hate him because he's white. Vlad's racist. It's bullshit. It's some shit that you just made up. I've been talking to you probably for like 20 years. Have I ever said anything racist during our conversations off camera on the phone? We've had hours and hours of conversation.
Starting point is 06:31:22 I've never said anything. You would have brought that up. All the other people I've dealt with, I've dealt with hundreds of people in the industry. No one's ever said this. I have thousands and thousands and thousands of hours of interviews, both me being on my own platform and being on other people's platform. I've never said the N word. I've never said anything racist. You don't think something will come up at this point.
Starting point is 06:31:46 Nothing has come up. I'm not on that bullshit. You're just making it up. It's imaginary. You can't take the responsibility of you being a piece of shit. So you want to gaslight. You want to do the low-hanging fruit. Everyone don't like black because he's white. Listen, there's a lot of white dudes. They use the N-word.
Starting point is 06:32:01 Okay? This dude black label who I just interviewed. White dude. Straight up white. As white as I am. He uses the N-word. That's his business. I don't do that shit. I don't use the N-word. I don't say racist things. And if at any point what I said could be construed as racist, I have apologized for it. Okay? I'm not on that shit. Now, let's get a little bit. bit deeper. Now that that's out the way. Now, Vlad got bars.
Starting point is 06:32:28 Multiple times now has brought up my ex-wife. So Norrie likes to say, yo, how come I've never seen Vlad post his wife? In this case, it's now my ex-wife. She must be ashamed of him. Why is he now? I've never seen him with a black woman. Okay. Let me go ahead and break this down. The reason why you don't see me post any of my wives, any of my girlfriends, or my kids is because I care about them. The internet is a fucked up place. There's people like Norrie that will attack people that you love during debates, during internet beef, during whatever fucking reason.
Starting point is 06:33:19 Why would I put someone that I love front and center on my Instagram, on my Twitter, on my YouTube channel when I know that people like pieces of shit like Nori will talk shit about them and attack them? Yes, I don't show them because I love them and I protect them. Now, let's break down my history in terms of women. 90% of the women that I've been in serious relationships with have been black. My first wife, who was black, we were married for about a year. My second wife, who was also black, we were married for about 14 years. Out of that relationship, I have two kids, my twins. I now have another woman who's having my baby later this year.
Starting point is 06:34:13 she's also black. More he'd been on camera, the more he talks, he finally started letting go some of his life that people realize this nigga not racist. The nigga only date black women. The nigga, all his kids is black. You get what I'm saying? Vlad loves black women more than these niggas in hip-hop.
Starting point is 06:34:30 These niggas and hip-hop want something mixed, Oriental, they want a white chick, they want everything but black. I'll go to add this. I think, you know, Vlad does want to keep his private life private. but you know and I hope he doesn't get mad if I reveal this
Starting point is 06:34:48 I can't remember if it was Charleston White it wasn't Charleston White the fresh and fit guys Fresh and fit hit me up and they asked yo could you try to get us a Vlad TV interview and you know Vlad's a commoner of mine Vlad's a friend I hit up Vlad and I said Vlad
Starting point is 06:35:09 I say hey you know the fresh and fit guys you know they're starting to go a little viral like you know I think you should interview them, they would like to be in your platform. And this is what Vlad told me back then. This is a couple years ago. Vlad said to me, Ack,
Starting point is 06:35:26 it's not that I don't want to interview them at the time he was married. He says, but Ack, I'm married to a black woman that knows about their podcast and she doesn't fuck with them, so I can't fuck with them. That's actually a fact.
Starting point is 06:35:44 And if Vlad ever speaks on this, he's going to say the same. thing. Vlad did not want to interview Fresh and Fit because he was married to a black woman at the time that was offended by how Fresh and Fit supposedly spoke about black women and Vlad was full on riding with it. Like, shit, I'm black and I was just like, I mean, I'm just not that tight about it. You know what I mean? But, nigga, Vlad is the white dude. And he was like, yeah, your wifey don't rock with that and shit whatever she don't rock with I don't
Starting point is 06:36:16 rock what I love my black queen I'm like damn this thing of black this thing of blood like this thing is sound like he died to Omar right and that's why I subsequent you never seen seen um um miring and fresh
Starting point is 06:36:30 I don't know if there was other conversations that happened but I did try to bring it and by I'm not bringing this up to like pull my guys down or whatever because I still fuck with him um but yeah I did I try to get him on Vlad and Vlad was like nigga I married to a black woman and my black queen do not fuck with, do not fuck with Fersh and Fitt. I'm like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 06:36:47 I'm like, you do hit different when the white man tells you that his black queen don't fuck with the niggas who supposedly might not like black women. That shit was kind of crazy. Anyway, somebody said they ain't fucking with black women no more. Vlad tweeted back at him and be like, great, more black woman for me. Now, Norie likes to say, oh, yeah, he's got black kids, but slave masters had black kids too. Okay, this is where I have to use small words for special Ed Nory, okay? Yes, slave masters had black kids.
Starting point is 06:37:21 Because they re-ch the women. They re-ch them. Slave masters did not marry their black women and then buy a home with them and raise children with them. They-le-them. I have two marriages at this point where I married black women. During both of those marriages, we bought property that these women had pieces of. I'm not married anymore, but I have 50-50 custody of my children.
Starting point is 06:37:51 Slave masters don't have 50-50 custody of their kids, you big dummy? They're slave masters. These women are... Okay? I married these women. I love black women. I love all women. But over the years, I have loved black women.
Starting point is 06:38:07 I have loved black women and I've had relationships with black women. All types of black women. Mixed women, foundational black Americans, Africans, light skin, dark skin, whatever. All this doesn't really matter to me. I look at the person. I look about the person I love. But, but since Norey wants to open this door and wants to talk about wives, well, now I could actually respond to him as well.
Starting point is 06:38:35 Now, now, before I go any further, I just want to say this, okay? I don't like bringing other people into my little issues with people, okay? I don't like bashing people. You never heard me say, oh, I'm smoking on a, you know, your father's pack, you know, your mom pack. Like, I'm not talking about dissing your dead homies or anything else like that. I don't do that shit. I try to keep it at the person that I'm focusing on. So before I say this next part, I just want to say something.
Starting point is 06:39:07 When I did my drink champs interview, the next day, there's a picture of me and Nori, right? What you don't see in that picture is that we spent hours together. I was hanging out with his friends and his wife comes around. And I just want to say this. His wife is a very nice person. I have absolutely nothing to say about Nori's wife. Okay? We had a great conversation.
Starting point is 06:39:32 We laughed. We joked. We ate food. We, you know, it was a cool time, and she seems like a very nice person. But, but let's look at the actual situation. Norie's wife is white with blonde hair. Okay. Now, I know they're going to say, oh, no, no, she's Latina.
Starting point is 06:39:55 She's Latina. There are white Latinas, okay? Her. I'm a mind my business. Well, I do think she looks Latino. Skin tone is about as white as mine. Her hair is blonde. Okay?
Starting point is 06:40:20 I don't know if it's naturally blonde, but it's presented blonde. It's basically Sidney's, okay? Norrie wants to be Malcolm X on Sundays and O.J. Simpson for the rest of the week. Because here's the thing about Nori. Nori's real name is Santiago. Okay? He's got a Spanish parent and a black parent.
Starting point is 06:40:42 But growing up, I'm pretty sure that Norrie identified with the Spanish side. When he became a rapper, he named himself Noriega, who is named after Manuel Noriega, a South American dictator, a Spanish guy. So early on, Nori became a rapper and started making money in rap. So it made sense for Nori to push the black side. Okay, because at that time, most the rappers were black. But look what happened when that rap money started to run dry. Suddenly, Nori is reggy tone, Nori.
Starting point is 06:41:24 I'm reggie tone, Nori. I'm Spanish again. I'm Spanish again. Okay? And by the way, by the way, Nori really said that if it wasn't for him, there would be no bad bunny. Oh my God, that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my whole life.
Starting point is 06:41:41 If it wasn't for Norrie, there'd be no bad bunny, you've lost your fucking mind. Because here's the thing about Norrie, right? You could tell what culture you're really down with. You know, Vlad, the definition of, you know that Dave Chappelle fucking, like, meme? They shouldn't ever gave you niggins money. So, once you got Vlad, like, even that owner's wrist, I know that's like 75, 8, like, his Watch collection is nice, I will say. Boy, got an R.m. He doing his thing.
Starting point is 06:42:16 Yo, Vlad is shitting on niggas now. Like, Vlad got no chill. None. Like, he's shitting on people. Joe, you see how the way he's talking about Nori? Bro, he's talking about Norrie like Norrie's a bum. Bro, he's going to talk about Norrie like Norris Young Miami, bro. I haven't going to cap with you. I felt uncomfortable.
Starting point is 06:42:37 Here we go. By the way, Nouri, I'm not anti you. Don't do the boozy to me. I'm not defending Vlad. I actually, I don't think Vlad is hitting all the way with the, you know,
Starting point is 06:42:53 we all know the guy who black, who's also Spanish. We don't look at you for jumping in between cultures. I never do. You know, maybe it's because I'm Jamaican and, you know, I don't hope people don't be like, oh, you're in hip-hop, then you love dance.
Starting point is 06:43:06 So I think, you know, certain people, you're just multicultural, like Cardi B, Cardi B's Dominican, Cardi B, if she does Spanish music or she does hip hop. I think it's like, especially if you come from the Northeast, you know, it kind of goes into that Fat Joe conversation people are having. Like, yo, Fat Joe went up to the, I'm the Joe Button podcast, looked every one of them niggies in the face and said,
Starting point is 06:43:27 Nick, I'm blacking all your niggas. What's cracking, nigga? And like, they always like, they act like they ain't here. Like, everybody was looking around like, you're like, yeah, that's what happened when Joey cracking the bill. You know what I'm saying? But it's bigger than, you know, you know, fat Joe's the same. a gangster. But it's bigger than that.
Starting point is 06:43:44 Like people in the East Coast, yeah, you got the white-looking Puerto Rican dude, who's a nigger? That's fat Joe. And I ain't going to lie to you. You see how scared people are to try to even have
Starting point is 06:43:59 that conversation of the N-word with them because it's just a different culture, especially on the Northeast. So I wouldn't hold that against Nore. Ain't norah from New York or something like that? by the women that you choose, okay? The women that you have children with,
Starting point is 06:44:17 the women you settle down with, the women that you marry. And you see who Nori married. Nori married a white girl, right? Because I'm gonna tell you, if it wasn't for rap, Nori would be the, I know black guy. Let's go ahead and play a little clip
Starting point is 06:44:32 of what Norrie would be like if it wasn't for rap. I know black, I know black, I know black, I know black, I know American, I'm Puerto Rican, you know the same, you know the same. You know the same. It's not the same puppy. I know black. Nebro, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 06:44:48 No, no. Do we. Is that AI? Is that real? Yo, they must have taught that nigger Vlad Claude like he meek Mill. You remember Meek Mill said like he just learned Claude? He said, been learning mad shit. Like, yo, you imagine Meek Mill with like a fucking cone on his head like in the AI class,
Starting point is 06:45:08 like learning Claude, bro. Him and Vlad in the same class, bruff. He nicka. I'm not blood. No, no, blah, blah, blah. So, Nori, you want to say, I want to do a lie detector test where you claim that you've never used the N-word. I will do that test, Nori.
Starting point is 06:45:32 But first, but first, I want you to take a test and say that you love dark-skinned black women as much as you like white girls. I want you to do that test. I want to be there too. So you can't like mess. around and fudge it up and whatever else.
Starting point is 06:45:50 You do a lie detector test that say you love dark skin, beautiful black women in the same way that you like Sidney Sweeney. Say in a lie detector test that you're not a bunny hopper. Notice we haven't seen Dr. Umar on drink champs. I just want to put that out there. I just want to put that out there. Go ahead and say that, okay? And also do a lie detector test that says that you've never pressured anyone to drink on your
Starting point is 06:46:15 show because I saw what's out there. I saw Revolt post this little Instagram post and Norrie reposted it also where it said, oh look, here's the truth. Bubba Spark said that he was never forced to drink. Oh, DJ Paul said that drinking was optional. Go ahead and do a lie to test and see whether that's true across all the different guests
Starting point is 06:46:37 because I was definitely pressured to drink. If I'm lying, go ahead and sue me for defamation. See those text messages that I posted in my last video are fake. That's a serious action. that I made and if I'm lying, you could probably sue me for millions. But you know that I'm not lying, there's real text messages.
Starting point is 06:46:54 You push people to drink. Let's take a look at the Lamar Odom situation. A few years before, Lamar Odom overdosed. He was gonna die. Lamar Odom has had a serious, serious, serious problem, a serious addiction problem, And he is on drink champs getting fucked up and Nori encouraging him to drink. Because at the end of the day, Nori is projecting.
Starting point is 06:47:24 You only pull the race card when it benefits you. I have known you for 20 years. We've hung out. I've gone to your shows where 13 people showed up. We've had long phone conversations. You've done interviews with me. But I'm the bad guy, right? But here's the thing.
Starting point is 06:47:42 I'm such a bad person. I'm the racist. but I was feigning to get on Vlad TV. I was feigning to be on Vlad TV. I'm a cultural vulture, but. I was feigning to be on Vlad TV. I'm bad for black people, but... I was feigning to be on Vlad TV.
Starting point is 06:47:57 I caused beef, but... I was feigning to be on Vlad TV. The reality is, Nori, you're a piece of shit. All this is really over, you not holding your word. Look, of course you're allowed to change your mind. Anyone is allowed to change their mind. But you tell the person you're changing your mind. You don't keep telling the person, I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 06:48:18 Yes, I'm going to do it. Yes, I'm going to do it. While in your mind, you're thinking, fuck this dude. I ain't doing this shit. Norie is cool and making people feel like he fucks with you. When really, he doesn't fuck with you. He's a snake. That's why I said in the beginning, Norrie is a snake.
Starting point is 06:48:34 And here's what I want to leave you with before I go. Because Norie seems to not want to address this part. I showed in that last video of Norrie getting a Mayback from Diddy. He's happy, oh my God, I got a Mayback. I did some research since then. You know what the last person was? Got a Mayback from Diddy? Young Miami.
Starting point is 06:48:59 That's your last one? You know what Young Miami had to do to get that Mayback? That's right. Diddy peed on her? Norrie, did he pee on you? Come on, man. You could tell him, there's a safe space. I won't tell anybody.
Starting point is 06:49:18 Did Diddy pee on you for you get that Mayback? You know, I mean, it all kind of makes sense, right? Because remember, Norrie used to have the fucked up teeth. And he got the big, giant chicklet veneers. Maybe he got those veneers for when Diddy pee's on him and like bounce off or something. He's like, Doctor, I want the biggest veneers I could possibly get. And the doctor's like, well, Nori, these veneers are way too big for a human mouth. I know I have other reasons to get these veneers.
Starting point is 06:49:43 Diddy's pissing on me all the time. some sort of deflection and protection from P-Diddy with two E's. That's how I think Norrie got that Mayback, man. And you don't notice there's no more Maybacks ever since Diddy went to prison. Maybe once Diddy gets out and he's got some more pee on him, you'll see Norrie with a new Mayback. So anyways, fuck Norrie, fuck drink champs, fuck broke-ass DJEFN, right?
Starting point is 06:50:11 By the way, both these bozos have blocked me on both Twitter and his What a bunch of pussies. You can't hear what I got to say? I haven't blocked none of y'all. Go ahead and hear what I got to say. You are completely unblocked. But you little sensitive little bitches are blocking me on all the different platforms. You can't take it.
Starting point is 06:50:28 I'm sorry, I find that hurt your feelings? That hurt your feelings? You should have fucking done the right thing and told your man to say, Yo, Norrie, you're on some bullshit. But like I said before, you're too scared. You're too scared to go against the person who really runs the show. You're fucking optional. Hey, Norrie, I think maybe you should...
Starting point is 06:50:46 You're fired! Okay, never mind, never mind. That's probably how a Norrie and DJEFN conversation probably goes. Okay, so fuck Nori, fuck DJEFN, fuck drink champs, and if y'all want to keep this going, we can keep this going. I have no filter. I can keep this going. I got my own platform.
Starting point is 06:51:07 I don't have to wait for an interview. I don't have to call Hot 97. I don't have to go on Joe Bunn's show or whatever else. I got my own platform, unlike you. You're all on Ditty's lap. All your shit's on the Revolt YouTube channel. Y'all could do whatever, damage control, whatever else, the truth is out there. And at the end of the day, Norie says, I hate Vlad.
Starting point is 06:51:27 Cool, I hate you too. But the difference is that you've always hated me. I thought you were my man at one point, right? And it's always like, oh, Vlad's made a lot of money. Same shit you send the text. For some reason, my money is on your mind. Because the reality is, Norrie, you've been doing this hip-hop shit way longer than me, but I've actually made more money than you.
Starting point is 06:51:50 And I guess that hurts your feelings. I guess that bothers you. It doesn't bother me. I have friends that are way richer than me. Charlemagne got way more money than me. I fuck with Charlemagne. I'm super happy. When I hear, ask Charlemagne, when I get something on my timeline that Charlemagne has made all this money or closes big deal,
Starting point is 06:52:08 the first thing I do is hit up Charlemagne and say, yo, bro, I'm happy for you. Congratulations. Okay. Academics, man. He's doing extremely well. He probably got more money than me too. Academics does shit. I hit him up, man. I congratulate him. Nori is only happy when something good happens to Nori. When other things happen to people... You're Norrie, bro. Either squash his goddamn B for a fightback gang.
Starting point is 06:52:37 I'll really rock with you, man, but I ain't gonna lie to you. It's not gonna get violent. We know that. But like, bro. Norrie, I got to keep it being like he's, I thought you were a little bit more slicker with the comebacks. As I said, I don't think Vlad want to do this with like a slick talking nigga like Gilly. Gilly one of them. I don't think he want to do that with a cam.
Starting point is 06:53:01 Cam one of them. Yo, Norrie, I'm going to be honest with you. Like, how are you getting bullied by Vlad? Like, this shit is crazy. Like, and I'm not even saying, because Vlad is in you with points. So, like, I think Vlad probably going to end up getting the better of it because people don't know nothing about y'all.
Starting point is 06:53:18 You keep going to race. I'm going to be honest with you. Yeah, some people feel whatever about Vlad being white, but in this particular situation, it's kind of like they're looking at it like, well, bro, if you thought these things about them before, why did you ever fuck with him? It's not like you never fuck with him.
Starting point is 06:53:35 It's not like you fuck with him before. And then look like now, you're using like the age old excuses why not to fuck with him now. or kind of, bro, just give your points, like whatever it is. Even if you change your mind. You get what I'm saying? He's kind of calling you fake. Shit, even people that like you probably just like, man, I don't know.
Starting point is 06:53:54 Shit. The nigger said he was going to do an interview and he's playing you around like he was some type of hole. Like what was we supposed to do? Like, be like, oh, no, that's what you're supposed to do now. So, you know, uh, Nori, man, I don't want to see you get dragged like this no more, bro. Just ignore this shit. Ignore this shit. Or if you're going to clap back and fly, clap back.
Starting point is 06:54:12 I can't think it with facts. You know? And it could be simple as, nigga, I never really fuck with you. You know, and shit. You know, I think maybe the only thing you got to take, like, some blame for it just be like, bro, it's not like you kind of sent them off.
Starting point is 06:54:25 But you could admit to that, be like, yeah, all right, maybe I shouldn't have sent you off. But, nigga, I really don't fuck with you. This is why I don't fuck with you. Like, like, Norrie's response is kind of remind me like, yo, I think Norris still think he's in that, like that regga ton Latina wave.
Starting point is 06:54:42 Like, that shit is like 2001, bro. Like, nigga, you have Vlad over here putting on his fucking Dior, his Dior, like little fucking, um, Clifford Huxable's sweater and cooking up now, bro. Yeah, with this little, you know, AP on the wrist, you got to, you got to know how to cook a nigga with facts. Not just like, you know, some of those other things. Anyway, if you don't want to fucking, I don't care about it like that. I don't even want to hear him talking about Bousie.
Starting point is 06:55:11 Him and Boosey, they're going to be beefing or whatever. Okay, give me one more thing to watch. I want to watch some shit. We got 20 more minutes, 20 more minutes, chat. 20 more minutes. Chat, y'all better appreciate the dedication today, chat. Just think about it, chat. I did an hour and a half at the crib.
Starting point is 06:55:36 I woke up at 7.000 a.m., chat. Be honest, 7 a.m. I was streaming from the crib The shit started fucking up by like nine something Nigger I come straight to the studio I'm on at 10 I'm on at 10 bro We're just about to hit 13 hours
Starting point is 06:55:58 Since I've been at the studio gang Like come on bro Come on All right there's not much here What else's been going on that I should react to? Nothing people told my Ari Spears I've seen this page before this page be posting some shit.
Starting point is 06:56:56 Oh my God. This is not, you know, I'm down bad. I'm reacting to Rory. It's not streaming well, man. It's just not. Rory says, Lebebebe. It's not hotter than Young Miami,
Starting point is 06:57:06 Tyler, Glorilla, DeBaby, Yeat or Cardi B, while reacting to Complex ranking baby number 12 on his hottest rappers list. Respectfully, I don't even need to hear these dweeps.
Starting point is 06:57:19 Like, let me just, let me go through this list. Drake number one, that's the fact. Don Tolliver, too high. Rod Wave probably right now is cool. Bro, Jay-Z is not on this list, bro. Nick, can drop a song.
Starting point is 06:57:29 Give him the fuck on out of here. Playboy Cardi. Cardi's always going to be hot. Yeah, him and Young Boy having, well, you know, Young Boy did release something not too long. Yeah, they're top. I ain't going to chip on that. Ken Carson.
Starting point is 06:57:44 Okay, I ain't chipping on there. How much are we going off how recent you just dropped? I guess that's what I'm going to say. Oh, shout to what's the dirt. We got What's the dirt? Yeah, what's the dirt? What's cracking, man? Oh, what's good.
Starting point is 06:58:01 It was cracking, but I'm going down the hottest rappers alive list right now, man. The complex list. Oh, are you? Yeah, I'm still on stream. I'm pushing. What is this? $13. I know.
Starting point is 06:58:13 I know. I'm on stream, too. I'm just calling you. What are your thoughts on the formal show, bro? What do you think? Like, you excited or what? Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 06:58:23 You know, it's going to be some good shit. You know, listen, somebody got to give, you know, hip-hop some shit to talk about, you know, just buckle up. Well, listen, man, there's, it's going to be an interesting couple weeks, I think, man, because Kendrick got a couple things in the mix, apparently, right? All of got the documentary. I don't think that's going to do too much, the whole stuff, but Kendrick got a couple features coming up. Wait, wait, wait, wait, Jay-Z got a documentary? Yeah, but you know about it. Come on.
Starting point is 06:58:56 No, I'll probably say it. I don't know what the fuck. No, no, oh, it's got it now. Bro, I'm going to be honest with you. Like, bro, like, respectfully and people be thinking, I'm just like denying, like, aging and shit like that. My nigga, like, bro,
Starting point is 06:59:09 only a nigga 50 is really checking for Jay Z, bro. Like, what the fuck do you think Jay Z is going to give? The nigga is 60, bro. Like, respectfully, like, what the fuck do you think? Jay Z is going to give like, like, bro, then you need to get a colonoscopy. Like, this shit is over. Like, again, listen, bro, how long could we keep celebrating 2001, my nigga, the blueprint?
Starting point is 06:59:29 How long could we keep celebrating 1996, my nigga, reasonable doubt? Nigel, we're in a fucking two decades later. Bro, it's cool. That nigga is straight, bro. Like, I got nothing against him. It just said, like, bro, that's for the 50-year-old niggas that know they're on the way out, bro. Like, that's not the type of shit. Nick, I'm still listening to the niggas who's drilling and spinning, bro.
Starting point is 06:59:48 I'm not listening to a nigga who's like, like, bro. Come on, bro. Like, nigga, he should get, he should. you get Blue Ivy fucking guitar or something like that. Northwest just did a sold out show. Bro, we can't keep listening to these geriatric old niggas who's like,
Starting point is 07:00:01 yo, bro, you're a legend, your top five of all time, but what else you want? You want us to suck your dick at 60? Bro, it's just over. I don't want to hear about no fucking Jay-Z. Bro, let me tell you this. I don't want to hear about a fucking
Starting point is 07:00:13 documentary. The fuck, do I want to hear about a documentary from Jay-Z? Nigel, the last real, and this is not no cap. Bro, I watch, I download it illegally. This is how old this shit is, my nigga. I was a child.
Starting point is 07:00:26 I downloaded 2004. Jay Z dropped a fucking documentary when he fake retired called Fate to Black. I know the history of this shit. Nicky, that's 22 years ago. What the fuck do we need to talk about a geriatric nigga 22 years after
Starting point is 07:00:43 he announced his retirement? Get his ass one out of here, man. Listen, right now, this is what we're talking about. We're talking about Drizzy. We're talking about Smirk, Young Boy, Cardi, Don Tolliver, let's see what Future got going on. And it's not about age, it's about being current.
Starting point is 07:01:00 The nigger don't even drop new music. Bro, I've seen some of these corn boys. I swear these niggas is corny. These old-ass niggas, like, I've seen, there's one of these bum-ass. I forgot what his name is. I can't, I need some of these niggas. I was one of this, this is because.
Starting point is 07:01:16 Like, they finally had enough. Like, nigga, you're 52 waiting for a Jay-Z listening party, gang. Of course he sent your goofy ass to station head. Who the fuck is listening to Jay-Z and the listening party at fucking 2006? You're a goofy. Did you see the listening
Starting point is 07:01:35 party though, bro? Because I was on there for general. Oh, of course not. I checked in. I checked in. I checked in for two hours. I'm not checking in on none of that. Like, tell me when the album come, bro. Like, what the fuck am I checking for? Yo, like the dick rounders of Jay-Z? We already say he's top five,
Starting point is 07:01:51 but I'm not talking about a 60-year-old. got nothing going on. He's not in the field, bro. He's not in the field, bro. I'm talking my my nigga's in the field. He's not in the field. Yo, the niggins is in some goofy-ass concert in the UK. Bro, Ye did the best concert we've seen in the last decade in goddamn Chicago. Bro. Jigger can't compete. He can't compete with Drake. He can't compete with Yeh. This is just an old nigger just holding on trying to keep a... Bro, I don't want to reminisce to 2001 no more. I don't want to go back to 2008 or 2009 with American Gangsta.
Starting point is 07:02:27 I don't want, I don't want none of that shit. Bring your 4-4-4-4-ass back to bed and put your dentures in the fucking cup of water and go cuddle with Beyonce. Get this thing on out of here, man. What the fuck are we talking about? This thing is retired, gang. You don't got no new music, not a new verse. shit i'd rather talk about this lazy-ass nigger kendrick at least he finally bought a
Starting point is 07:02:50 put out some verse why the fuck are we talking about a geriatric listen a y'all 50 plus here niggins i'm not mad at y'all that's y'all error go ahead but trust me i'm not anticipating nothing from that nigger straight up and it's nothing it's not i know some people like oh i got an issue right no bro the nigger 60 gang that's like me saying i want a new birdman verse The fuck, this ain't cash money. This same cash money back in the 90s. Look, this is some new shit. Fuck are we talking about.
Starting point is 07:03:23 Like, God damn it, that's like saying, yo, man, he fresh. I can't wait to. No. I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that. Oh, fuck are we still talking about Jay-Z, man. Act, just listen, okay. So you're not down for the Jay-Z.
Starting point is 07:03:37 We got that, we got that part, right? But apparently, Kendrick, like, the rumor is, and I was watching a podcast earlier. People were, they were saying, you know, we heard he's talking crazy on this. I don't know if you saw the clip, but they're saying he's... Bro, if I ain't going to lie to you, I really don't like these Kauai ass niggas, these lazy niggins. He dropped too infrequent, but I'm glad that he put in on music. Let me just say this about Kendrick.
Starting point is 07:04:02 Yo, I hope he is talking first. He does get these moments off. No, no, that's what I was going to say. I hope he is. I hope he is. talking crazy, but I'm going to say this now before we hear the crazy talk. Kendrick, your lazy ass will not avoid doing the work by making a moment. That's your whole career.
Starting point is 07:04:27 Instead of working hard, putting out songs, grinded, doing the work to be the man, you mention the man, you try to make a moment with the man, try to steal the moment and do little work. No, nigger. If you want to be the man, play 48 minutes, nigger. Don't just sub in the last two minutes, nigger, trying to steal the spotlight, trying to take the last shot. Put the work in. So, yes, I'm pretty sure it's going to be an amazing verse.
Starting point is 07:04:54 I'm pretty sure he's going to wrap his ass off. But I'm going to be honest with you, if he's trying to do the same old trick that he'd been doing for like 15 fucking years, no work, I'm just going to do some, like, hieroglyphics like you know gymnastic shit listen I'm not biting I'm pretty sure the rest of the lame ass
Starting point is 07:05:16 Twitter following will bite they will yes 100% but Kendrick again this is not no no Drake allegiance and none bro nigga you're a really good artist nigga but you're fucking lazy like mona gonna like mona you don't take that long
Starting point is 07:05:32 to cook no music up nigga like I'm sorry gang like you're not making like you not god bro you're fucking lazy and you use a cheat code and at this point I don't respect it you know so for me I'll rather this bro
Starting point is 07:05:44 like you could put out more music so if your way to try to grab the headlines is dis a bunch of people and then disappear and come back and dis a whole bunch of people again
Starting point is 07:05:54 and disappear bro come on bro like I'm gonna give you credit if it's a hot verse shit but like yo bro you gotta start putting the word bro
Starting point is 07:06:03 I'm calling it now I know exactly because look bro wait who's who's your Who is he supposed to be in a soulway? A. Z. Chike. Oh, that's why the nigga don't want to be on game song. Yeah, so there's a little bit of,
Starting point is 07:06:18 I think he's going to be going at game, too, honestly. I think that he's definitely going to have a few bars for game. Oh, my God. So who is he supposed to disson, game? That's it? I think he's going to.
Starting point is 07:06:30 I think he's going to go at Drake, too, bro, because Drake was, you know, going at him on ice man. Yo, Drake not beefing with you, or Drake not battling you no more, a nigga like, yo, he's back number one, eat a dick. Listen, here's a reality. He's going to go ahead game.
Starting point is 07:06:42 Here's what I don't like with Kendrick, okay? Here's what I don't like with Kendrick, right? Of course, he probably want round two, round three, round four, like, he want, he want to go back and forth with Drake all day because you know what? He wants Drake to do the work and him steal a spotlight. We get it. Here's my thing. I know he probably going to have a couple lines.
Starting point is 07:07:03 He probably going to have some real mean jabs at the game. Here's my problem. Kendrick do not respond to the game unless like and by the way I called Drake out for this before two I saw everybody could know it's not no Drake Nick sucking I'm keeping it even I never like when Drake responded to Joe Budden and then didn't continue when you respond to niggins like Joe budding the game they rap for years they don't stop yeah like don't try to do your little cute this is and be like oh I'm done now hell now so Kendrick if you disgame remember the game this G unit for a fucking decade.
Starting point is 07:07:40 He was dropping mixed tapes and bars on bars. You ever heard 300 bars? You ever heard? 100% bro. 240 bars? 120 bars? 360 bars. 400 bars.
Starting point is 07:07:50 The niggil was rapping like the shit was going out of style. So if Kendrick is going to do this little pitty patch shit and be like, oh, no, I'm done. Hell now. The war just started. If you respond to the game, round one. And you know the game coming back. He might come back in four.
Starting point is 07:08:06 He might come back in a goddamn week, but he going definitely return and don't just be like, oh, I'm done rapping. You done rapping? What you mean you done rapping? We ain't going to see you for another three years. What? No, he better not do that. No, no, no. Okay, I got one more question for you, actually.
Starting point is 07:08:23 What do you think? Because, look, we've been hearing for a bit now with the three projects, Drake drop, that he might be out to deal. Nothing's really been confirmed, no public statement. Now we're probably going to find out right away here. He drops new music. We got to look at those credits and see what the deal is. Like, do you have any comments on that or what? And again, this is just from my understanding of things and nothing that's, oh, Drake told me, okay?
Starting point is 07:08:58 Yeah. I believe in the next, I believe in the next six months, the questions about deal. potentially lawsuit. I think everything is going to come to a helm. And I think these are all set up place. He won. In six months time, you will see how big of a W he's really taken. These are all set up plays.
Starting point is 07:09:29 And, you know, if I'm in the mindset of how I'm thinking, also let me just say one thing about in terms of record. Again, I don't know Drake Record Deal. I never spoke to him. intricately about these particular terms, but I do want to remind people who always talk about people getting out of a deal. In everybody's deal, okay, and I would imagine Drake is no different, and I would actually imagine that Drake would be the exact reason why you would do this.
Starting point is 07:09:57 When an artist completes their record deal, there's usually a moratorium on music that could be published. Remember that. Why? Yeah. Because Frank fucking Ocean. who got out of his deal and dropped an album the next minute fucked it up.
Starting point is 07:10:17 And from then on, in everybody's contract, it says when you end your deal, you cannot put out music for a certain amount of time. So we should look at time constraints, especially with Drake. And again, if time constraints may not be respected, I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't still ongoing in partnerships just at different splits
Starting point is 07:10:44 and different ownership. Because here's the thing. As much as people keep saying lawsuit, lawsuit, lawsuit, you know who doesn't have feelings? You know, who doesn't give a fuck about anything but dollars and cents? It's going to be you and motherfucking g. So I'm pretty sure he could
Starting point is 07:11:00 do one-offs until he figures out what he's going to do. Young boy did it with Atlantic. You know, when he got out of his deal, even though he gave 22 albums when he only signed for five. And when he got out of his album at the end, they had a moratorium period of like, I believe, six months or whatever. And, you know, he loves to drop frequently.
Starting point is 07:11:18 So they reworked deals where, yes, he owned the masters, but they got the exclusive rights to distribute it. Both people made money. Again, still in the pot. Again, I guess maybe what you could take away from that spiel of what I just said is that I would probably still assume that Universal will somehow be even in the distribution. even if whatever, if he does drop something, if. Yeah. They'll still be on distribution even if he owns all of it.
Starting point is 07:11:52 Just because, you know, again, they're in everybody's contract from what I know. This is standard. There is a moratorium period where you cannot release music because it's meant to be the time where they could recoup rather than you go to a competitor and now you use the market and dollars of your last company to go drop a new album with your new competitor.
Starting point is 07:12:14 So, you know, we'll see what it is. Listen, from what I know, and this is where my conversation with Drake has came, could come in, he's playing chess. He's playing chess. He told me what formal, he told me some stuff about it too, but, yeah, I think at this point, probably.
Starting point is 07:12:35 I actually haven't asked him nothing about it. Yeah, I did. Oh, yeah, I haven't. Yeah. I've been locked on the dirt stuff But yeah Like You been, bro, where do you get to time, bro?
Starting point is 07:12:45 I was just telling chat before I locked in Like how long have you been streaming today? You had 75,000 people in there at one point Yeah, yeah, yeah So we're pushing 14 hours I'm gonna go home I'm gonna give two hours to my dog I'm gonna sleep for four or five hours
Starting point is 07:13:01 And I'm gonna return back to my studio And then I'm gonna do tomorrow another 12 hours Where are you right now? You're not even in your studio No, no, well I'm at So this is the headquarters studio that I own. Like, so I pay rent here.
Starting point is 07:13:12 I'm usually, I'm at the home. So the place you normally see me stream is, is house. That's my house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's your great, but like, I was just wondering where you were today. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, so, you know, but, yeah, like, you know, this is one of those week where,
Starting point is 07:13:26 weeks, and I think Trappler is kind of in the same boat where he's been putting an extremely amount of work. You know. Yeah, you know, it's one of those where it's, for people who watch me, this is one of the specialties for me. This is like when Drake is, dropping an album. Like when Drigg is dropping an album,
Starting point is 07:13:41 that's a 12-hour day. That's what it is. And I was telling you, I'm not sure if I could do it, bro. It's not easy to do. People think it might be, but it's not, bro.
Starting point is 07:13:50 12 hours is a long time. Entertainment. It's not easy to do. Shit. I ain't going on line, man. I ate a little bit out still. That's it.
Starting point is 07:13:58 I went to the bathroom one time. That's it? Yeah. Drink some fucking water, bro. Well, yo, we'll catch up, man. Like, once the episode drops or whatever, I'll tap in.
Starting point is 07:14:09 you. I'm sure you'll be on the stream. Yeah, no, yeah, I'm, I'm shit. That's at least a seven-hour stream. Like, you know, I'm preparing for FOMO or whatever. I want to see what it is. You know, um, you know, I got a, I like, I hope you kind of become like the drink insider. Like, I kind of been looking at drink like the homie. I don't really try to get the info to report no more. That's the thing. I don't want to,
Starting point is 07:14:33 no, I'm not like, bro, I'm not at that place, you know, like where I'm going to leak or talk about anything, you know? Like, that's just not where I'm at. These days, like, a lot of times I'm having conversations with him, like, that it's just not even for, like, because I used to just independently figure shit out, and I was just
Starting point is 07:14:53 leaking. Like, a lot of stuff. Now it's like, when you kind of cool with him a little bit, it's like, yo, well, I'm telling you this as, like, the homie, and you're like, all right, I guess I can. I guess, you're not going to. Yeah, this is a foul play if I fucking bring this up. So, all right. Exactly. No, I don't say,
Starting point is 07:15:08 don't say nothing. And there's a lot of fake people claiming they know what's going to happen or whatever. I don't think they do, bro. It's just it is what it is, right? But yeah, no matter what it is, shit, I'm going to have,
Starting point is 07:15:20 I think it's purified my own reaction to it. You know? Yeah, definitely. So, okay, I love it, you know? Obviously, everybody knows, you know, Drake's the homie, but, you know, of course, like, and I think people also realize that I'm still able to, you know,
Starting point is 07:15:36 I have some criticisms in, You know, that's kind of where it is. You know, we're always going to kind of revert to and kind of like find that area of where new media and even like I'm pretty sure you have a relationship with him now too, you're going to find the place of, okay, listen, I could ask him for confirmation or ask him for this and third, but still have your autonomy to be able to make the videos and say whatever you want to say. The losers who are going to hate on that is because they all fuck with Kendrick.
Starting point is 07:16:02 And Kendrick literally like disappears off the map and gives him nothing. Like imagine being me a dickhead, bro. like that guy's a loser there's a bunch of them are losers bro but now we're gonna see you it's gonna be interesting now in the next week or two right?
Starting point is 07:16:17 Yeah like I'm a whole lot of you like one of them niggies I just seen to put out of APB for him he's on one of this the milk boxes the milk cartons is that loser Jeremy ever since he tried to expose you to some shit I completely owned him
Starting point is 07:16:32 apparently they announced that what's it called I forgot out where their show is. They said it's never coming back. And I saw Elliot just, you know, him in Vlad or a team now. I don't know. What's going on? So, you know... There's a lot of shit going on, bro. Yeah. I was trying to get Jeremy to over here. I got a pool board
Starting point is 07:16:52 position to open it up. I don't think he's good on camera, nor I don't think he's good with content. I just think you should probably, you know, dive to the bottom of the pool, get all the rings, earrings, and, you know, kind of clean, you know. Yeah, that's what I wanted for. But anyway, other than that, that's it that's it man like these guys is out of here
Starting point is 07:17:08 like yo I do like stat quo I like the ball you like who Stack quo is good yeah he's funny yeah no no no he seems neutral your stack quo
Starting point is 07:17:20 I know you're surrounded like I see you with some people don't you know what I mean don't let the losers bring you down okay keep neutral my brother okay it's okay listen when you need to come over here
Starting point is 07:17:33 and have a conversation with Big Ack or, you know, what's the dirt? Listen, get your numbers up, boost it, whatever, whatever. Don't be in the little, there's a loser corner that they're just upset at everything. They're upset at just, I don't know, not paying their, I don't know what the fuck they're upset about. Anyway, brother, I'm getting off in here, man. I will talk to you tomorrow. Okay, bro.
Starting point is 07:17:55 Okay, look at more. Okay. Yeah, yeah. All right, brother. Okay, bro. Okay, peace. Yeah, I feel like what's the dirt call me and I talk for 19 minutes. I love what's the dirt.
Starting point is 07:18:08 All right, chat. We made to midnight. Dubies in the chat? Can I get some Ws in the chat, chat? Ws in the chat? We made it through today. Oh, man, we made it through. It's all good.
Starting point is 07:18:27 It's all good. Look at this. Look at this. You know how proud I am? We have... I took y'all time up. for 13 hours and I still have like 9,000 people on the academy like 7,000, well, 7,000 on the academy and 9,000 on King Academics and like 3,000 on Twitch.
Starting point is 07:18:55 Not Twitch, ooh. Progen slip. 3,000 on kick. I will see you out tomorrow. I got some stuff to do. I'm going to get a little bit of sleep. I'll be back. I love you guys.
Starting point is 07:19:07 Thank you. Once again, you can do me the biggest favor. the academy. shop, please, 30% off on all merch. Free dirk is the code at checkout. Peace out. I love y'all. See ya tomorrow.

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