DJ Akademiks Live Streams - Lil Durk Trial Day 4. OTF JAM is TELLING ON DURK DAY 2. OTF FUNDED SLIDERS, PACKS, SWITCHES n MORE Part 1

Episode Date: August 28, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Apologies for being a little bit late today. Y'all can hear me? The apologies for being a little bit late. I had to do a bunch of stuff before I could actually get on stream, fortunately, but we're here now. Okay, I do have the transcript queued up. I told you guys I was going to have the transcript. I got that cued up.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Jam is back in court. He's being questioned currently. This is still direct, which means this is the, first set of questions from the prosecutor because it's a prosecutor's witness, all right? Eventually, they will become an opportunity where Jam will be cross-examined by the defense, okay? And then after that, there is a possible what's called a redirect and then possibly even a recross. Now, just being honest here, I think it, I think Jam is such an important witness. that we're going to have the defense,
Starting point is 00:01:06 they're going to take every opportunity to go at jam. Try discredit him, try to, you know, put some, poke some holes in his story, kind of show the fact that, hey, this guy's only saying all these stuff because he's trying to get out of jail. He's never had a conscience before because you heard that sob story first day, right?
Starting point is 00:01:23 Oh, man, my parents was a crackhead. They put a gun in my hand when I was 12. It sounds really good. But a good defense attorney is going to be like, so you're telling me, you kill somebody over 12 years ago. Did you ever write the family a letter? No? Did you ever, you know, do anything to atone for your sins back then? No?
Starting point is 00:01:46 So the only time you're down to talk about it and take some accountability is when you get an immunity deal that's going to keep your ass out of prison. That's the only time? Really? After 12 years? Come on. We're not buying that. So I expect Brian Steele to rip a hole, pause. But rip apart everything Jam is saying.
Starting point is 00:02:01 And Jim kind of made him, oh, yeah, I had to rob niggas. Even one time I had to rob people for food. You know, Trappleroros reacted to that. I was like, well, you know what? Kind of felt bad for him. Niggie, just come on, bro. You know? So a good defense attorney is going to rip a hole into everything he's saying.
Starting point is 00:02:17 He's not a victim. This is a guy who, you know, just like how he's laying down the, all the gang rules of the BDs or whatever. And he's saying, put your life for the gang. Even though, by the way, half of the stuff he was saying about the gang, he's, he's completely going against now you can't have him have you in your feelings like oh man he's the victim no he's not no he's not but jammy the bull is on the stand people welcome we are in day four day four for us is going to be day six in the case because they count jury selection we don't count that but i do have the uh i have the this is the transcript okay
Starting point is 00:03:03 so Jamie the Bull was on the stand for around the later half of the afternoon and the day ended with him being on the stand. Now you guys have heard a lot about what was supposedly said by him. I hear somebody even just came out now and Sadie Nash said he actually didn't admit to three bodies. I'm like, you know what, let's just go to the, we're going to go to the tail of the tape, which is going to be the transcript. Okay, this is the official record. and this will even be used, and it's probably already being used, to possibly set up a appeal
Starting point is 00:03:41 or anything that could happen from this case subsequently. All right? Okay. So I think the little starting versions, I don't care about these things, but we should probably start off with it. Okay, let's start off with it. I'm going to try to get through reading this a little bit quickly.
Starting point is 00:03:59 You guys should be up to speed on exactly, exactly what's going on. So just rock out. Let's get through some of this stuff quickly. All right, chat. This is OTF Jam on a stand. You're going to hear every word he says in court. I'm going to repeat it here. Then we're going to get to updates from today. Okay. So let me get into this quick. So, um, his name is Mr. Hester. But we're, for these purposes, we're going to call him Jammy the Bull or, um, OTF jam. Okay. But his real name is Casey Hester. Anyway, good afternoon, Mr. Hester. That, by the way, this is the, uh, AUSA asking or saying. Jammy the Bull says, what's up?
Starting point is 00:04:34 Says, so are you currently detained in federal custody? Jamie says, yes, sir. Question says, and by the way, remember people said that Jamie the Bull was dropping addresses, told him out, yo, whoever mad about me telling him, come get up with me, here's my low, he's lying. I think it was in the same shoe as probably were at 6'9 and then was that. Like, come on, he's a protective witness.
Starting point is 00:04:59 He's not dropping no lows. Like, come on. That was cap. But he probably put it out there as bait. Maybe either by the government telling him. Maybe. Actually, I probably think the government put him up to that where he dropped the location to see if Dirk was stupid enough to go have some niggas try to slide. Because you got to remember, at this point, Dirk knows this niggas testifying, right?
Starting point is 00:05:23 Let's see if, because that's what they got Big U on. Big U tried to get an inmate to kill another inmate, which is you try to kill a witness. Like, when they have a weak case or the cases like whatever, It doubles down on the case when they could say, oh, we caught him trying to hide evidence. He's trying to kill a witness. So I think that's what that was about. But the guy was in custody. Never got let out.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Okay? Say, yes, sir. He says, is that because you've pled guilty to federal crimes? Jammy says, yes, sir. So what charges did you plead guilty to, Jamie? Jamie the Bull says, conspiracy to commit murder for hire. Conspiracy to commit kidnapping resulted in murder, robbery murder, and carrying a firearm. and firing a firearm.
Starting point is 00:06:05 AUSA says, do one of those murders relate to the death of Savire Robinson? Jammy says yes. They show an exhibit. It says, what am I showing you? Do you see this? Do you recognize it?
Starting point is 00:06:17 Jamie says, I do recognize it. And so, who is that? I said, that's me. With a gun in my hand. It's how you know it's you? Because the shoes I got on. I mean, I had some red and white prodigms on that day.
Starting point is 00:06:31 The AUSA says, well, we'll get into the details that I'm murder in a moment. But right now, as you look around the courtroom, do you see any other people who participated in the murder and or the planning of Mr. Robinson's murder? Jamie says yes. AUSA says, can you tell me who they are? Jamie says, Dirk.
Starting point is 00:06:52 He says, you mean Mr. Banks? Yeah. Do you see anyone else? Didi over there? He said, do you mean D'Andre Wilson? Yes. Do you see anyone else? Yeah, him right there.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I don't know his name. I just know him as the CVL shorty. Said, okay. So do you see another person who you committed this murder with here in the court? Yes. Can you tell us where he's sitting or just describe something that he's wearing that we can know who you're talking about? Man, that boy got a black suit over there, great tie, glasses. Objection.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Okay? will stipulate to his identification in court, Judge. Judge says, all right, based on a stipulation, the record will reflect Mr. Lindsay has been identified, okay? AOSA says, we'll get into details in the murder in a little bit, but I want to talk to you at least a little bit. First of all, in the matter of the murder of Savaya Robinson, were you targeting Mr. Robinson or were you targeting someone else?
Starting point is 00:07:57 Nah, we was targeting Cuando Rondo. But why were you targeting, Kondo Rondo in particular. Man, we were doing it for the revenge of King Vaughn getting killed. Okay. I want to talk to you a bit about your background. Where are you from, sir? Jammin the Bull says, from the rack, south side, Englewood.
Starting point is 00:08:21 A USA says, have you lived on the south side of Chicago your entire life? Yes, sir. How old are you? Thirty-four. In your life, have you been involved with a criminal street gang on the south side of Chicago, known as the Black Disciples. Yes, sir. And I want to ask you a couple questions
Starting point is 00:08:35 about your involvement with the gang in respect to the Black Disciples in general on the South Side of Chicago. Are there blocks or clicks within the Black Disciples umbrella? Yeah. Were you one of those blocks of clicks? Yeah, I was.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Which one? Lamron, 300. And how old are you when you got into the game? Well, I've been around that shit my whole life. But I got blessing when I was nine. You said you got but Leston. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah. Is that like an initiation? Yes. Why is it? Or actually, wait, do you know why the block that you were involved with inside the black disciples
Starting point is 00:09:17 was called Lamron? Jamie says, because we're off normal. We're off 64th and normal. And if you spell it backwards, we say we ain't normal so we call ourselves Lamron
Starting point is 00:09:34 so the question then becomes from the AUSA so the gang originated on the intersection of 64th and normal right and Lamron is normal backwards Steele says objection
Starting point is 00:09:47 he's repeating the testimony the AUSA says I'm just trying to justify your honor I'm trying to justify I'm trying to clarify all right that's it overruled A. USA says, I want to talk to you about the structure of the gang. Did you ever become a leader within the gang?
Starting point is 00:10:05 GMI says yes. What position did you obtain within the gang? Gemi says a minister. The question becomes, what authority does a minister have? A lot. Can a minister issue directives to younger members? Yes. To commit acts of violence, for example?
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yes. How does someone rise to a level of leadership in the gang? Multiple ways. Can you give some examples? This is Jamming right here. It could be how they see people, rise through the rank, through money, inherited, like their family held, somebody in their family held power within the mob,
Starting point is 00:10:41 or violence, ways like that. AOSA says, so why did you rise to a level of leadership in a black disciple? He says, through violence. Question number comes. And when you were an active member in Lamron, By the way, is Lamron also referred to as Lamron 300? He says yes. So, well, could you briefly explain why it's referred to as 300?
Starting point is 00:11:08 Answer becomes because like the movie 300, the Spartans, how they never back down to nobody, that's just us. AUSA says, is it fair to say that Lamron could be referred to as Lamron, Lamron 300, or maybe just 300 in general? Yeah. Question number comes. So when you an active member of Lamarron 300, did you participate meetings with other black disciples?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yes. And just so we're clear on why that's relevant, did another individual that you committed this murder with also participate in some of those meetings? Yes. Who? Dirk, little Dedy. So you're saying Mr. Wilson and Mr. Banks?
Starting point is 00:11:52 Yeah. Okay. I just want to talk about that we could get an understanding of, what are those meetings about? Are they regular? How those things go? Jammy the Bull, he says,
Starting point is 00:12:06 first it was regular meetings every Friday. But if it was an emergency going on, we would just be called at any time. A USA says, is this a member of, okay, excuse me, are the participants of that meeting just Lamron block click people?
Starting point is 00:12:21 Or is it more like a broad black disciples on the south side of Chicago meeting? Jammy says, depending on the situation. It could be multiple clicks of black disciples. The question becomes, what type of things are dealt with at those means? Jamie says, could be violations, could be black disciples. You know, different clicks. They're getting into it.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I don't know. It could be, he gets cut off by the AUSA. Let me stop you real quick. There's some slang we got to educate the jury here on. Is that okay? So you just said the black disciple clicks that get into it. Did you just say that? Jamie says yes.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Can you explain what the term getting into it means or being into it? Jamie says like how to act like beefing with each other. Okay, please continue. That's what the EUSA says. Jamie says, yeah, it could be murders being discussed. Black disciples get into oppositions could be discussed, things like that. The question becomes can folks get blessed in at those meetings also? Answer is yes.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Do you have to bless in order to be a member? You got to be blessed in. You have to bless in to be a order to be a member. Yes. Is there a kind of oath you got to take when you bless in? Yes, it is. Can you explain it? You get blessed in with three laws, three different laws.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Like when I was blessed in, the three laws I was blessed in with was that I will sacrifice my life for the nation's causes. I will abide by all commands given to me by the king upon all the chiefs, and I will greet and salute any member of the black disciple nation with a touch of the hand and a clenched fist. A USA says, so I want to be clear, what was the first one? A, well, not A, I mean, Jamie says, I will sacrifice my life for the nation causes.
Starting point is 00:14:23 AUSA says for the nation causes, meaning black disciples nation, right? Right? Jamie says yes. Question says, okay, so what was the second one again? I'll abide by all commands given to me by the king and all upon the chiefs. AUSA says abide by the commands of leadership then, right? Jamie says yes. He said, what was that third one? Jamie says, I will greet any member and salute them if they're a member of the black disciple
Starting point is 00:14:53 with a touch of the hand and a clenched fist. the AUSA says that one has to deal with the greeting and salute in the fellow BDs, right? Meaning black disciples. Yeah. So what does the first one mean? Now, again, they're going through painstaking
Starting point is 00:15:10 effort to try to educate the jury who probably a bunch of white dudes don't know too much about gangs or BDs about the procedure here and show that it's structural. Jeremy says, basically, you won't put your life on a line for whatever, whatever they tell you to do.
Starting point is 00:15:26 He says, well, does that include not tolerating disrespect? Yeah, of course. AUSA says, you said, of course. I want to talk to you about some principles within the gang of criminal, I mean, the black disciples.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Is it important to be loyal to your block, loyal to the black disciples as a member of the black disciples? Jamie says yes. Can you please tell us about that? Jamie says, I mean, you got to be trustworthy. Brother got to trust you in every way. Situation is like this.
Starting point is 00:15:56 you got to be able to count on the other BD members. AUSA jumps in and says, okay, so you said situations like this. What do you refer to when you mean situations like this? GAMI says, people go into jail, people snitching. They stop them again. Okay, so in other words, part of loyalty is to not cooperate, right? Jamie says yes, not testify, right? Jamie says yes, not testify in general, right?
Starting point is 00:16:28 Jamie, you get a piece, yes. Wait, are you familiar with the term get back? Jamie says yes. What? Does the term get back mean to you? Jamie says, man, get back. It's like if somebody killed one of your homies, somebody got to, or somebody shoot one of your homies, you get revenge.
Starting point is 00:16:48 You get your lick back. You get back. The AUSA says, you are getting your get back? That's interesting. You are getting your lick back? Jammy says yes. Is that something that is known on the streets with a certain black disciple members
Starting point is 00:17:08 or block got their lickback or not, or get back or not? Yes. Can it look bad if you didn't get your lickback or your revenge? Yes. How is that? Jammy says, I mean, you don't want to be looked at in a weak block.
Starting point is 00:17:24 You don't want to know what to feel like they could come and kill y'all and get away with it because people are going to pray on that, you know? And you got all the BDs. that push issues too. Like, it's not just something you're allowed to happen. Question is, or AUSA says,
Starting point is 00:17:42 are there encouragement? Encouragement for get back in terms of just culture around gangs, even from non-gang members. Jamie says, wait, say that again. They rephrase. Let me ask you this. Can your family be disappointed
Starting point is 00:17:57 sometimes if you don't get that? Jamie says, yes. Believe it in that, yeah. they asked him in what I mean your grandmother be mad your grandmother be mad they'd be feeling like their loved one got killed
Starting point is 00:18:10 and nobody did nothing behind it AUSA asks So what about Where a prominent member of the black Disciples gang is murdered by some rival Is it especially important Or is it just the same Jamie says
Starting point is 00:18:25 The issue might even get to push a little bit more Why is that man because people just more important than others some people just more important than others you know they ask him so does that mean getting revenge for some folks is more important than maybe a not important gang member jemmy says yes a USA says the leaders within the gang and the prominent members are they kind of held to held up as examples of how strong a block is yeah is that a part of the reason why it's important yeah Let's talk about respect.
Starting point is 00:19:02 What about respect? Okay? I understand that it might be important to you broadly, but I'm talking about specifically to the black disciples. Is respect important? Mm-hmm. Can you tell us a little bit more about that, jammy? Jammy goes on.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I mean, you're going to be respected. You don't want nobody to, if you're a leader, you want people to respect you. You don't want them to think they could go behind them. on your back, probably do some snake stuff, not listen to what you got to say. If somebody don't respect you, then how could they look up to you?
Starting point is 00:19:38 AUSA says, can it be dangerous to not be respected? Yeah. How's that? Jamie says, because you ain't, because if you ain't respected, you could be a target.
Starting point is 00:19:54 AUSA says, is everyone the black disciples considered a shooter? A person who could be counted on to commit shootings. Nah. Okay, couldn't you explain the different roles within that the people have and the identity around as a gang member in the black disciples if they're not just shooters? What are the other folks? Jammy says, it could be a person that give money, whether that could be, you know, that get money, whether that's be selling drugs, a skimmer, it could be a fighter, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:24 just anything really. Now everybody not kill us. Everybody around is not kill us. People do all the type of stuff that's not killers. Like, I can't just speak on all of them off the top, but people play multiple roles. Okay. Do the shooters get respect? Yeah. A lot of respect? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Did you get respect? Yeah. Were you a shooter? Yeah, I was. Did you have a reputation of violence? Yeah. I'm going to talk to you about that in a second, but when's the first time that you can remember picking up a gun and shooting at someone?
Starting point is 00:21:05 This is Jammy I was 12 Could you tell us about this Dammy? Here's Jamie he's gonna Go through Jammy the Bull y'all It was Halloween Somebody came shooting a paintball
Starting point is 00:21:20 Gun and hit one of our older guys in the face Shot him in the face with a paintball He was mad about it My cousin Chris He grabbed some guns He gave them To one And he gave them to one of me
Starting point is 00:21:35 and one of my other homies told us, when that car come back down here, air it out, shoot it up. And when that car came down the block, that's exactly what I did. And USA said, so this is what an older gang member was telling you and others to shoot at the car next time you see it, right? He says, yeah, and you shot at it. Yeah. They didn't want to get hit that you know of?
Starting point is 00:22:03 Jammy says, I mean, I was told somebody got hit, but I'm not 100% sure. they ask him About how many times we're involved in shootings From the age of 12 until 18 I don't know man Like 15 10 Like something like that
Starting point is 00:22:19 I ain't sure I'm not sure about the real number But something up there Okay I want to just put a sort of perspective on what you're saying now So you at the age of 18 Essentially went to prison for 12 years
Starting point is 00:22:34 Is that right? Yeah Okay So right now So right now I'm focusing on before you went to prison for that long stretch. Okay? So between 12 and 18, it sound like you said that that period there was about 10 to 15 shootings. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:52 What about robberies? Were you involved in robberies back then? Yeah. Are we talking about strong arm robberies with your hands and fists or also firearms? Nah. Armed robberies with guns. About how many robberies did you? you commit during that time frame?
Starting point is 00:23:15 A lot, man, a whole lot. Like, I ain't gonna lie to y'all niggas, man. Probably like a hundred plus on the dead homies. On phoned them grave. Who were you robbing? Drug dealers. Was it just drug dealers? The only time I robbed somebody other than a drug dealer,
Starting point is 00:23:34 I just robbed a nigga for some food. You said for food. Why did you have the need to commit these robberies at such a young age? Man, I'm going to keep it up being with you. My mom and dad, they were crackheads, hooked on drugs. And I had the responsibility at 12. I had to pay my mom a bill.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Like, I'm my mom's youngest, and out of everybody, I was the one that had to step up to the plate. I was the only one willing to do it. I got turned on the robberies. It was an easy way to get money. So it's just what I did. Then the black disciples, Chicago Street Gangs in general. Oh, okay, that's the opposite.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Okay. So that's what I did. EOSA jumps in. Okay, within the BDs and the Chicago street gangs, are you familiar with the term a name, someone having, quote, unquote, a name in the streets? Yeah. Can you explain to ladies and gentlemen what that means? Jamie says, man, it just means having respect a name for yourself. That is because you get money, you being a shooter, people fear you, just having respect, a name for yourself, different type of ways. You mentioned robberies.
Starting point is 00:24:47 In 2010, did you participate in a robbery in Racine, Wisconsin? Yeah, I did. Can you tell us about that robbery? So, bet, check this out. Me and another BD from another block who was asking me to ship at a time. He asked me to go with him to go rob a nigger. somebody that his daddy was dealing out of town with where he was selling drugs at
Starting point is 00:25:17 the dude played and played his daddy out of some money so like the dude owned a store and his daddy was cleaning his money for him and his daddy told him the dude played him out of some money so we went to rob him we went to rob him doing the robbery so wait wait let me stop you real quick so we're clear here situation where an older gang member told you that there was some beef involved in an individual who owned a store who was cleaning money cleaning drug money for him for his dad. Yeah. And this older gang member felt that this person still says objections.
Starting point is 00:25:52 He's objecting. He's saying, ask questions. You know, you're supposed to ask these people questions, not coax them by saying, so this, this, this, right? Court still overrules it. So still not sustained. AUSA is going to change track a little bit, though. He says, okay, I'm just trying to clarify.
Starting point is 00:26:09 So go ahead, counsel. So this older gang member told you that This guy cheated his dad out of some money Yeah And this guy owned his store So the plan was to rob this guy Yeah And the guy was located in Wisconsin
Starting point is 00:26:23 Yeah Did you participate in the robbery? Yeah So tell us what happened So boom We went inside We locked the door, we pulled out the gun The dude tried to take off running
Starting point is 00:26:34 My other homie grabbed him They started fighting They tussling And my homie told me, nigger, shoot him. He told me, he's like, yo, dude, shoot that nigga. Okay? So when I shot him the first time, he's like, he's like, no, basically told me,
Starting point is 00:26:54 yo, you got to kill him or else he won't go to jail. So what did you do? I put the gun to his head and I pulled the trigger. How old were you at that point? Man was 17. It's going to further than the trajectory here. But did you eventually speak to the FBI about that murder? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 When? 2023. Was it after you participated in another murder, the murder that you're here for, murder of Survivor Robinson? Yeah. Is that when you start cooperating with the FBI? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Did you confess to this murder that you just described? Yeah. Have you pled guilty to that crime? Yeah. In the beginning of your testimony, when you were talking about the charges you played guilty to, were you including that one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:45 You mentioned you know Mr. Banks. Do you call him Dirk too? Yeah. When did you first meet Dirk? Like, Jamie says, like first meet him or like new of him or whatever? Met him. Like 0807. Okay, how old were you then?
Starting point is 00:28:10 14, 15, something like. like that. Did you eventually know him to be a black disciple from Lamron 300? Yeah. How did you find that he was a black disciple for the Lamron 300? So I went to jail. When I came from jail, he was around. He was at our meetings. He was shaking up Lamron. He was at all our parties. I mean, he hung around. And when you say he was shaking up Lamron, what does that mean? Are you referring to a handshake that he was doing? Yeah. Do you have any gang-related tattoos? Yeah. What kind and what do they say?
Starting point is 00:28:51 I got 2 for 14. Me, BDN. I've got 300. I've got Lamron 300. I've got OTF. You have 300. Is that considered to be Lamron? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Do black disciples have hand signs? Are you saying, do we have gang signs? Yes. Yes. Okay. All right. Let's give me a second. We are reading his testimony from yesterday. I will pop in to see if we have any current updates about what's going on in court. It's going to be lengthy with me reading the actual testimony because there was a couple hours he was on the stand. He's expected to be able to stand for a couple hours today. We don't want to get lost or left behind by reading yesterday's full testimony to ignore what is going on today. So let me just see if there's any updates. I do know that Trappler Ross, you know, it's been a bunch of drama with him. He's got in there to court. And what he initially said when he got in there, he says he's getting threatened with violence.
Starting point is 00:30:00 If he doesn't change his coverage on Dirk, people contacting him, saying they will come to his house and hurt him if he doesn't start being positive, despite what he's hearing in court. So people hate free speech, it seems. He then continued by saying it's easy it would be. I can't stop now. I might be the only person telling the truth out here. Says Kanye just came to Dirk's trial,
Starting point is 00:30:20 refused to stand for the jury when the break started. Yeah, I was told that Kanye was coming. Yeah. Jam claimed he called Dirk. Jam claimed he called Dirk after returning to Chicago after Pob's murder. He was mad. He got dragged into this beef. Dirk just smiled and said,
Starting point is 00:30:50 you ain't able to kill Kwan, no name. you killed Pop, but he counts. He was smoking on Vaughn too, nigga. He can't do that shit no more. I love you, bro. Wow, okay, that's interesting. So it looked like Jam was trying to confront Dirk on some, damn, bro, like, nigga, you really sent me up the river to go kill this,
Starting point is 00:31:09 nigga, bro? Like, what's up with you? He's basically, so Jam is saying, remember the story goes, Jam never knew Von like that. But Jam would do anything for that. Dirk. But I guess Jam is realizing like what the fuck
Starting point is 00:31:25 that this shit's on the news this and third. He's like looking at like Dirk like your bro like bro why are you going to bring me in this beef when like this is some y'all niggies doing internet shit. Right? Jam claimed that right after the murder of Poball
Starting point is 00:31:38 the killers were in the car or in the car on FaceTime with Dirk and he asked Did someone get hit? How many times and who did what? Oh shit. Basically smirky was taking stock of who his real shooters were.
Starting point is 00:32:01 So many, uh, Jam saw the cops. Jam saw the cops as soon as he walked into in and out after the murder. The cops sized him up. He thought about the fact he was still wearing the shoes from the murder. Many jurors in public are in awe of Kanye walking into the courtroom. It seemed like a big distraction from the very serious testimony taking place. Yeah, well, you know
Starting point is 00:32:28 From what I'm hearing, Dirk is kind of inviting public support on this stuff. I'm not going to lie. They're saying Dirk is not opposed to public support. But what Traplor Ross is saying, it's distracting when Kanye walks into the fucking courtroom.
Starting point is 00:32:47 So, Jam is still on the stand. We're going to take a break. He has completed explaining all the events of murder of of Pob and his testimony is expected to continue. Okay? All right. By the way, let me just run through any of their early morning videos. And then we're going to get back to reading from yesterday. Again, we get the around 10 o'clock my time, which is about 7, 8 o'clock, L.A. time.
Starting point is 00:33:17 That's when we get the daily transcript. Okay, here we go. All right, so I'm back here. I'm back outside the courthouse. You know what's going on, man. We're back here for Dirk. This is day six, I believe. But what's truly crazy is OTF Jam was on the stand at the end of the day yesterday. He's going to be continuing his testimony today.
Starting point is 00:33:37 It's going to be crazy. Now, obviously, you saw me getting mobbed by Dirk fans yesterday. I'm not going to lie. There's been a lot of weird stuff going on. I'm getting all types of DMs, all types of people threatening me saying they're going to drop the low. You know where I'm at every single day, bro. I'm not scared of you guys. But at the end of the day, it is absolutely crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Everybody's trying to suppress free speech. I wonder if anybody's got to lie on me again today. All of these guys acting like they're tough. free Dirk but I think some of you guys are snitching you're over here talking to the courthouse staff talking about he's wearing mettaglasses no I'm not ain't nothing matter about these glasses at all his cap you guys are snitches and you guys are liars bro and OTF jam is up there you know doing his thing informing on Dirk and you've got people in the courthouse that are literally trying to tell on me is absolutely insane it's insane and look I just want to remind everybody bro
Starting point is 00:34:23 I'm a civilian yeah I'm out here I've got security people are keeping me safe but at the end of the day bro, if you're really that much of a crash out, do you want to threaten me, you want to come and hurt me, you want to come and try and intimidate me on courthouse grounds on a federal building, bro, you might meet Dirk. You might be in there with Dirk very soon, bro. And I'm a civilian. Bro, I'm not trying to say anything other than if you really out here threatening me, if you're threatening to commit crime on federal grounds, bro, I'm probably, you know what I'm saying, I'm probably going to work, I'm probably going to work with whoever I've got to work with to make sure that you go and meet Dirk. You're going to be meeting Dirk soon if that's
Starting point is 00:34:54 really how you want to go about it. But, you know, it's super disdispy. disappointing to see how kind of Dirk's team have been moving, how other people have been moving. But the end of the day, nobody is going to stop me. I'm going to keep telling the truth. I'm not going to change my stories. I'm not going to water it down because all the, all the free Dirk fans are salty. Everybody that was in the courtroom saw what went down and everybody that's on the free Dirk side of this is scrambling to try and find a way. How can we try and clean this up for Dirk? How can we make jams snitching on Dirk and giving the most intense negative information literally pointing at it, pointing at Dirk saying that he was involved
Starting point is 00:35:25 in this murder? The Dirk fans are in shambles. I'm just keeping it real with you guys. If Brian Steele takes the stand, takes the podium and starts cooking jam and turns things around, I will tell you that. I'll be the first to tell you that. Everybody was on to me saying you lied yesterday, you lied, no, I didn't. The prosecution made a certain angle, which I broadcasted, and then Dede's lawyer clapped back, set the record straight, and I broadcasted that too. People want a cherry pick. So everybody that was on to me yesterday talk about you lying, you lying, you line. I need to see posts from all of you about Brian Steele lying. Brian Steele said that Kondo Rondo dropped a song saying that he are not.
Starting point is 00:35:57 little Tim as King Tim after King Von died. Lie. K. K. for lying. Brian still out here calling King Von K. Von Bennett. Nobody could, oh, nope.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Nobody going to talk about that. Okay, okay, nobody going to talk about that. And he kept saying that King Von was murdered. King Von was not murdered. He was killed in a self-defense situation. That is a fact, all right? So it's crickets for the Brian Steele lies. But for me, when I report something that then changes my love, update you guys, nothing.
Starting point is 00:36:23 All right, so I'm back here. I'm back outside. Okay, let me just see what else. you know from say nasher and everything be through because like i say i got this posted right now we just literally and i know y'all don't care about this but this is me really working for y'all so i got three phones that basically posting this shit so um the whole i'm just jumping in and jumping out real quick the whole murder for
Starting point is 00:37:04 higher plot and all this bs and everything they all realized this is all because jams said oh we was in the studio in an land and little d'nick was like yo i won't draw to hill Coquando Rondo and I'm y'all gonna be good for life. It'll be good for life. That's what? Have a million dollars. Nah, that's gotta be at least a meal. And they're basically say, no, that's a for life thing. Makes no sense. Zero sense. And I'm gonna explain to y'all why it makes zero sense because he can't identify the people who actually said the money parts. And I'm going to speed through because, like I said,
Starting point is 00:37:46 Okay. So the whole misconception that he got three bodies, that's not true. He talked about basically three shootings. Shooting in Wisconsin, shooting Illinois, and they're shooting in California. So that's basically what that is. And, well, yeah, Illinois, Wisconsin, and California. And my behalf of saying, D.D., my fault. Anyways.
Starting point is 00:38:11 So there's that part. But here's the most important part of everything. They say that Jim said he was on the phone with his baby mama and dropped off his son and all this stuff. And the reason why that's important is because Brian Steele was bringing that up during the investigator's terrible-ass investigation. Because remember, it got revealed that actually it wasn't coded language for saying, don't get no planes. and my name, these was about flights going to Cabo. So the feds don't have them on it. Don't book no flights of my name stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:52 If I'm in a jury, they didn't actually define any of that crap, in my opinion. If you say, now that's different, then that's what's up. But Jam basically did what he was supposed to do. But if that's the testimony that's supposed to do it in, I'm not scared if I'm Dirk's team. Because you have to basically have dates. You have to have all of this stuff. you have to really get in there and make it work. And he ain't made it work like y'all think.
Starting point is 00:39:18 He's basically on there to look like this scary person. He came in with the brown and the white t-shirt, and that's what he's supposed to do. It's looked like this killing. When he talked about robbing the dude with Torrey Lanes and all that, who was with Tori Lanes crew, he didn't rob anybody. So there's that part. He didn't rob anybody.
Starting point is 00:39:37 He was talking about this shit because he was broke. So it's interesting, because he never talks about when he had gotten the $50,000 and what the $50,000 is for. If I got a homeboy that's when you're talking about robbing people and all that because he broke, all right, cool. I can understand that. But we're going to get more to that later on the day, I would assume. Brian still going to have a field day with this shit, man.
Starting point is 00:40:01 For real. Man, listen, I know for a fact that the dates, that everything that they're trying to align, that doesn't work because he hasn't done any of this stuff. So he's doing the on or about. And we're going to find out later on about these interrogations when he decided that he was going to snitch on dirt and all this stuff. I'm going to get more into it with a couple other things because I'm really trying to catch all up to speak. Okay, so we're going to get to the bottom. We got to get to the bottom of.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Did he, how many bodies did he say he has? Now, I didn't get to that part exactly if maybe answer that question directly on the transcripts that we have. But what is for sure mention is that he pled guilty to a robbery murder. That's not pop. That's the guy he killed in Racine, Racine, Wisconsin. Now, if we don't know what his charges are, because remember that file is, or that case is sealed, with him mentioning his charges, granted, it could be multiple counts, it would appear that he is only have admitted to two bodies.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Now, here's the thing. Maybe the people who, I think Traplow was one of the first people that said he has three bodies or whatever. Maybe they were taking, him describing three shootings, meaning three bodies. But Little Pop was a body. The guy in Racine, Wisconsin was a body. But he shot at a car. He said he felt like somebody got shot, but he didn't know if they got shot. So we don't know if someone died, right?
Starting point is 00:41:36 And you'd have probably seen if someone died if they, He sprayed up the car and the car fucking crash or something. However, he did say he had about 10 to 15 shootings before he turned 18. Okay. So I think there's probably other bodies. He just hasn't directly addressed it. And from what I see, he hasn't been directly asked how many people he's definitely killed. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Cool. Let's, uh, oh, let me just look at the Taylor real quick. Did she make a video? Don't have a video from her. She does have some updates. Let's get to the update real quick. All right. Testimony began where it left off from Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:42:26 OTF Jam, aka Jam of the Bull, is described the white infinity in the white BMW following Quanta Rondo's Black Escalator around L.A., including the Litco dispensary, a clothing store in Beverly Hills, and finally the gas station located adjacent to the Beverly Center. Jammy the Bull had repeated many times that he did. not in LA and cannot testify to the areas the car drove through. He says, I didn't even know what the Beverly Center was until my attorney told me. Jammy the Bulls said he recalled not feeling good.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Like there was no consistent plan and he was calling Didi trying to get him to call it off. So Jammie's now trying to flip it on Didi. Remember, Dedy was like, Didi's defenses, I ain't want to be there. That's why I don't have a gun and I don't have a mask. Also, you know what Jami said? Yo, not Didi of course wanted to be there. Matter of fact, the day before, he took the gun out of my hands, which is ironic because he comes back around on that same sentiment.
Starting point is 00:43:21 He said, he took the gun out of my hands when he saw Kwanam, but there was cops that drove up and down the street. He said, oh, man, I could kill him right here. He said, Didi had the gun in his hand, pointing it through the window. But then the next day, Didi passes him the gun and says, yo, bro, I'm rusty. You go handle that. Okay?
Starting point is 00:43:40 So Jamie's testimony is that, oh, I try to call it off. Okay, which is the inverse of what Dede's testimony is. He said, at the time of the shooting, Jamie described Lindsay, which is brown eyes, jumping out of the stolen infinity, which he called the Hakar. And Lindsay moved quickly. He attempted to catch up and was expected, and was expecting take shots closer to Kwondo.
Starting point is 00:44:07 However, he testified he was thrown off by how quickly Lindsay began firing. Oh, shit. That is an important thing. fact chat. You basically hear what he's trying to say. So OTF Jam, I don't know if the jury's gonna catch this. OTF Jam is a bona fide killer. He said he ain't like the fact that they were shooting from like 15 feet away. He wanted to walk down that nigga Kwanarondo. So, but he said Lindsay was fast. He's a skinny dude. He's fast. And when he ran over there, he just started shooting already. So of course, Jam's not going to go in front of the bullet to walk the nigga down. So
Starting point is 00:44:43 Jam just started shooting too. But he's saying that he was. was saying wanted to take shots closer to Kwanso. He wanted to give him holy. However, he was testified that he was thrown off by how quickly Lindsay was, um, Lindsay is Brown Eyes. Lindsay is the third person that's on trial.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Lindsay's Brown Eyes. So you have Dirk, Dee Dee Dee and Lindsay. They're the three defendants. Lindsay's one of the shooters. The three shooters is Lindsay, Brown Eyes. No, not, Lindsay is Brown Eyes. Lindsay Jam and Keith
Starting point is 00:45:20 Jones. Yeah. Jam was trying to, he said he wanted to take shots closer around him. Jam testified that the group left the infinity following the shooting before getting back in the black escalate. Getting into a black escalate, which he says he doesn't remember doing, what? He doesn't remember getting into the black escalate. And then going to in and out. He also testified that an officer there made him nervous. Little Durk and Jam appeared to stare at each other from across the room before the trial started. I could only see Jam's face, which appeared very serious.
Starting point is 00:46:05 He then looked down until court began. Oh man. He got his head down, chat. Federal nightmares. The defense asked for a monitor to be moved before the testimony began so they could see Jam's face. There's a dirt staring at jam from across the room. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Man, okay. Give me a second. Kanye steered me down. What the fuck? Got to stay focused. Y'all, I feel like Trap Lord is like a part of the trial now. Like,
Starting point is 00:46:56 what's going on with him is as much is as much a part of the case as everything else. Anyway, let me look at this guy's thing. What's this thing called? Blackwater? Okay, here's some more.
Starting point is 00:47:21 He was present. Jam discussed planning on doing the shooting when Cuando and crew stopped at a dispensary. Jam says, I don't know if there was going to be cameras in there. Lindsay went in. So what did he say? He said he couldn't really see them.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Said they were in the back somewhere. Prosecutor says, okay, so they were sending Lindsay to kind of like, you know, kind of like just walk in the store or whatever. Because remember, Lindsay wasn't a nigger that was known to be rocking with the crew. Okay? Lindsay and Keith Jones. Prosecutor says, did anyone hear from Dirk Banks at the time? Jam says, honestly, can't say.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Hmm That's interesting All right Is that yay What the fuck Look at Kanye West Bro Kanye West pull it up
Starting point is 00:48:23 To the Dirk trial Shout out to Kanye West The Kanye West Oh somebody said Don't talk to him Look at Kanye West Bro Oh I guess this is a security
Starting point is 00:48:41 Security's gonna say Don't talk to him Cany West Pull it up To the Dirk trial Shout out the Cany West Why is this security So far from him
Starting point is 00:48:53 Shout out to Canyu West Hi yay The system broken, the schools closed, the prisons open. Look at Kanye West, bro. Kanye West pull it up to the Dirk trial. Shout out to Cungia West. What's up, it's your board denied day six at the Little Dirk trial. Clearly, OTF Jam is still on the stand dropping a dime.
Starting point is 00:49:34 A part of the defense theories that Dirt had nothing to do with co-conspiring against Cuando Rondo on August of 19, 2020. They had OTF jammed to testify that Dirt would communicate via apps that you can delete messages on and Apple FaceTime because it's not recorded and the feds cannot track it. And the majority times when OTF Jam actually spoke to Dirk and when the OTF boys
Starting point is 00:50:01 spoke to each other, it was on FaceTime, no recording. So he's sitting there dropping all these dimes. OTF Jam even went as far as saying that he tried to call out the hit, saying that he checks Didi to call out the hit because he was scared of Dirk's reaction. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:50:17 happened to the guy that committed all these armed robberies this hitter this tough guy that niggum up there singing like a bird acting like he's a saint talking about he didn't want to hit quando and them because they was about a school in a catholic church since we and god matter to you boy you the devil bro the defense has a mountain decline and they say had a faith of a muster see what's a bishop boy did not day see yeah that's interesting okay Let's try to get through this a little bit quicker. All right, they show an exhibit. This is yesterday, by the way, this is a, this is a, I'm doing a reading of the testimony of Jam from yesterday afternoon, okay?
Starting point is 00:51:02 Please bear with me. Again, we had a lot of people tell us what was in the testimony of Jam from yesterday, but it's only right that you guys hear it verbatim, right? So that's what I'm doing a reading. Okay, so they showed me an exhibit. So who's the people in these photographs, Didi and Dirk? You see the gang signs here? Yeah. What do you see?
Starting point is 00:51:22 Dirk dropping a waz. And this is a hand in the corner that looks like he's slamming the rakes. Did I just circle the hand in the corner that you're talking about? Yeah. Okay, you said a couple of things that we probably need to unpack. You said that the hands we see in the foreground, can you tell who hands are those? In a circle?
Starting point is 00:51:43 Right here. Right here. Oh, yeah. Whose hands are these? Smirkio's hands. Okay, focusing on those hands. You said Dirk is dropping the wise? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Okay. Do black disciples have specific gang signs that they use to communicate disrespect to rivals? Yeah. Is another term for rivals ops? Yeah. Okay. And you just said Dirk is objection. Leading.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Overruled. You said Dirk is dropping the wise. Yeah. Can you explain that? If I want your money. They opts. It's what they do with the Waz. You drop them and it's you disrespecting them.
Starting point is 00:52:33 When you say they ops, are they ops to the black disciples? Yeah. Generally? They did a lot of wrong to the BDs, kill a lot of important people. They've killed what? Are you saying that gang? 051 has killed a lot of important black disciple members. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Is it important to disrespect rivals who have killed your people? Objection. Sustained. Ask your next question. They end in the upper left here. Who do you see is this one? Yeah. Do you see this one?
Starting point is 00:53:13 Yeah. You said he's dropping the rakes. Yeah. What is that? Dropping GD. What? Oh, dropping GD. My bed.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Can you explain that? Just gangs to disciples. It's people we don't like. So gangs of disciples, they're like rivals to black disciples, right? Yeah. Kind of sort of like bloods and grips. Objection, Your Honor. Judge says, we have a Los Angeles jury.
Starting point is 00:53:45 The reference will be understood. The witness could understand, could answer yes or no. Or I don't know. It's overruled. Witness says, yeah. Okay, I want to show you another exhibit. Exhibit 156. It's submitted. I want to run this exhibit for you a couple times.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Then we're going to pause it. All right? All right. Pause at 11 seconds. First of all, do you recognize the location here, the corner of 59th in Princeton? Yeah. That's Taytown. Is that a significant location for the black disciples?
Starting point is 00:54:25 Yeah. You say Taytown. Is that a block or? a fashion within the BDs like Lamron? Yeah. Okay, when we ran the video, did you see any gang signs being thrown? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Okay, so what is Mr. Banks doing with his hands? Let me see it again? He's just throwing up OTF. Do you see anybody here throwing up King Vaughn? I see people dropping GD. I see people dropping Waz. You stopped it. I can't see them more.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Well, let me just ask you this. Is there a specific old hand sign that's meant to memorialize King Vaughn? Yeah. Who made that sign up? I don't know. Did it exist when you got out of custody? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Did you learn from OTF member? Yeah. Is it common for gang members to create gang signs to memorialize significant gang members who have died? Relevance. Overruled. Yeah Are you familiar with
Starting point is 00:55:34 You mentioned OTF already, right? Yeah What does OTF stand for? Only the family. When is the first time you've heard that term? Man, a long time ago, man, before it even got bigger than what it is. Okay, when you first heard of it, what did it refer to?
Starting point is 00:55:57 So boom, I'm from Lamron And like before any of that, we used to say OTF long time ago but it never went nowhere like it never took off it never really it was just us being young was it being used in a way
Starting point is 00:56:12 that could refer to what's now known as Lamron yeah but it just never took off at the time yeah was it later popularized yeah how music whose music
Starting point is 00:56:25 dirt music Keeves music Rondo no man. Your name and other gang members in the south side of Chicago who claimed OTF, right? Yeah. Another objection from Brian Steele. Your Honor, this is far,
Starting point is 00:56:44 this is a far field, I believe. The judge says the last question was not, but I could think that we're about to get there. A. USA says, yes, I'm going to say, ladies and gentlemen, let me remind you on this that the reason you're hearing this, the reason you're hearing this is two reasons. I've told you a number of time.
Starting point is 00:57:03 one is to show links among the alleged co-conspirators. The other is in the government's view to show a motive for the alleged conspiracy, and that is the only reason you're hearing this evidence. Go ahead, counsel. Thanks, Your Honor. I want to shift gears to the individual you referred to as D-D-D. Yeah. Is that Mr. Wilson?
Starting point is 00:57:24 Yeah. All right. Let's put up Exhibit 165. Do you recognize who's depicted in this picture? Yeah, that's D-D-D. He appears to have a chain of. around his neck. You see what it says? It says, it appears to say V-Roy.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah. Do you know the significance of that term V-Roy? Yeah. That's Vaughn and like his best friend was T-Roy, which is another B-D that got killed. So he started calling himself V-D-V-Roy to represent his best friend. Okay. Before you testify here today, did you review the video? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Did that video depict Mr. Wilson walking in an area of south side Chicago? Yeah. In this photo, he has a sweatshirt that appears to say Taytow, right? Yeah. Is that at the intersection we were looking at before in the previous exhibit you referenced? Yeah. In that exhibit 164, did you recognize the area he was walking in? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:29 What area was that? It was Tatown. Okay. uh it says in the courses you may publish it are they're talking about the exhibit i'm trying to skip through this a little bit too i'm trying to skip through this a little bit we're going to get into the murder part or i should just skip to the murder part you guys for read the full testimony okay we should get to february he gets out in february like 2022 so let's go to that part let me see if there's any more updates by the way this was india getting out today
Starting point is 00:59:23 good morning everyone good morning india it looked great let me see Cousinino. Wait, what happened? Is my internet acting up? Is it streamed out? Let me make sure. It's starting to rain by where I'm at, but Jesus Christ, shouldn't be that horrible. It should normalize in a second. If you guys, if it's muted for anyone in the chat, just tell them the refresh. Okay. Big Dirk arriving. Petito here. We hear day six, a little dirt trial, man. This thing is moving. Day six already. FBI jam is on the stand still today. He's telling everything. bro. He's telling everybody's secrets, his own secrets. He's telling all the BD's secrets.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I'm telling you all your BDs and Lamb Round 300 people. Y'all better be careful because he up here telling some stuff, man. It's looking like some RICO's coming soon. But today is day six. We're going to see what happens today. Yesterday, I wasn't able to see some of the ending of the last part, but I was told that Jam was up there trying to basically connect duty low to this whole situation by saying that he's the one who got to drop. Unless me from like some person who worked at the weed dispensary, the weed dispensary person hit him up and let him know that Cromdo and his people was coming through. So, hey, it's about to get real interesting today.
Starting point is 01:01:52 It's a lot of snitching going on. It's so much snitching going on. I feel like everything I'm doing now with snitching because he got my spirit feeling like, I'm talking too much. What's up world, man? It is because of it. Hmm. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Okay. All right. So we are now at the part of the testimony from yesterday where OTF Jam is he's released from prison after doing 12 years. He gets locked up in 2010 and it's now 2022 he's out.
Starting point is 01:02:26 So the feds are questioned him on that. Okay. So they said So February 22 he said you were in prison from 18 until February 22 22. He says yes.
Starting point is 01:02:40 He says looking at this video, can you tell whether it would have been after you got out of prison? So yeah, it was after. So how do you know? So because Didi don't got hair like that no more in there. Taytown wasn't even a thing for I went to prison. And some of the things certain people went and have been around. You said, what's the last thing you said?
Starting point is 01:03:00 Some of the things some people got on like Breezo, like the shoes and some stuff. Like I have been around him when he had that on. So got it. So you recognize some clothing that you saw when you got out of prison. Yeah, understood. Let's talk about that period of incarceration. You said from the age of 18 to basically 34, or 32, actually.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Or 30, actually. You went to prison. So it was actually 17. I was 17 going on 18. So what was the charge for that case that you did 12 years for? Tempted murder. Before we talk about that, actually, are you familiar with someone named Antonio Jones, a.k.a. Booney Moe.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Yeah. Your Honor, let's show this exhibit. In front of you, Jammie, who is that in that exhibit? That's Booney Mo. How long have you known or when the first time you met Boone Mo? Man, like in 05, 06. So you were pretty young. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Was he also gang related? Yeah. What gang? He was a black piece. Stone. Is that a gang that's friendly with Lamron or was? Yeah. Is he a leader in that gang? Yeah. Do you know what his relationship or how would you characterize his relationship with Mr. Banks from the period where you were out of custody? Now, they were close. What about his relationship with Didi, Dianne Wilson? How would you characterize that closeness? They was close too. Everybody called. It's brothers. Brothers? Brothers?
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yeah, brothers. Do me a favor and keep your voice up a little bit. If you need to move up the microphone, please feel free to do that. So you said both of these individuals were brothers to Mr. Banks. Now, you say you were incarcerated for this attempted murder charge. Did that have something to do with Booney Bow's Block? Yeah. Did that have something to do with the crime you committed?
Starting point is 01:05:14 Yeah. And while you were in custody for those 12 years, did you keep in contact with gang members who were outside, still home on the streets? Yeah. How'd you keep in contact with them? On the phone. You mean jail calls?
Starting point is 01:05:30 Yeah. Is it important for a gang member who's in custody to keep contact with members who are outside? Yeah. Why? You just want to know what's going on in the streets. It could be for somebody getting, to be somebody getting killed.
Starting point is 01:05:48 You want to know the homie. You want to know what ops potentially could land a location with you. You want to know what's going on. You don't want to be in a dark spot about stuff. You don't want to be blind and what's going on. Can those ops who are outside at some point become locked up and incarcerated
Starting point is 01:06:04 with you? Yeah. Is that a reason you want to know who the ops are? Yeah. Were you familiar with someone, I mean, even before you went into custody, were you familiar with someone named Davon Bennett, aka King
Starting point is 01:06:21 Vaughn? Yeah. When did you first come to know, King Vaughn? By the way, they show an exhibit. He identifies Vaughn and said, yeah, that's Vaughn. So does he appear to be wearing a chain that says OTF? Yeah. Was he a member of OTF? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Is there a chain under that chain? It says, oh, you see that? Yeah. So, Your Honor, the government offers another exhibit. Okay. He said, what have you seen on the right side of the street? Parkway.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Do you mean Parkway Gardens? Yeah. Is that otherwise known as Oblock? Yeah. Is that a block or a clique within the black disciples? Yeah, it is. Well, did you know or did you know King Vaughan to be a black disciple in the clique of Oblock? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I want to talk to you about how you first knew him, when you first met him before you went into custody, on the attempted murder charge. So you knew King Vaughn from a long time ago. Yeah, a long time ago. What was the context of those interactions? Really, nothing. I just knew he was. More because it was sister than him.
Starting point is 01:07:31 But I knew he was. I knew of him. Were you trying to talk to King Vaughan's sister at the time? Yeah. Okay. And then you ended up going to prison? Yeah. Before he went to prison, was King Von a BD from Oblock?
Starting point is 01:07:49 Yeah. Was he a prominent member or just kind of any old member? Just any. He was just one of the sureties. He'd be with T. Roy. Be with T. Roy now. When you mean shorties, do you mean younger gang members? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:08 When you say T. Roy is that an individual that you indicated King Vong got the name from? Yeah. And while you're in custody for 12-year stretch, did you eventually reconnect with King Vaughan? Yeah. Could you tell us about that? So when I was in Manera prison, I was around one of the guys,
Starting point is 01:08:29 and he ain't really in the same gang as me, but somebody that we all know, his name is Boona. Boona was calling Vaughn on the phone, like talking to Vaughn. And he came in one day and said, man, Vaughn say, why, you ain't called his phone. He hit him up. He said he gave you the number. So you got a message that King Vaughn wanted to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Yeah. Did you end up talking to him while you were in custody? Yeah. Okay. At that point while you were there and you were in custody talking to him, can you approximate what year that was? She was like 2019, something like that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:14 And like by the time, like around that time, by the time you talked to him, oh, okay. Well, by the time that you talked to him around 2019, while you're still in custody, had King Vaughn's sort of rose to prominence. Did you have a name by then? Yes. Was this significant name in the black disciples?
Starting point is 01:09:33 Oblock, yes. Was he a prominent member in O'block? Yes. Okay. Still as objected, asked, and answered, and leading. It was sustained. Okay. Are you asking, the court says, are you asking for,
Starting point is 01:09:53 okay, the court butts in when the AOC is asking question again. They do a hair say that's the same way to need to read that. Here we go. So they're telling the council to move on and then he basically says, were you close with King Vaughn? No. Ever? No.
Starting point is 01:10:10 So the conversation with King Vaughn, you didn't continue to have multiple conversations with King Vaughn? Someone who you were supposedly, you know, kind of cool with in custody? Say that one more time? Were you close with him while you were in custody. Was I close with him while I was in custody? Yes. No. Okay, what about what about banks? What about Dirk? Were you close with him while you were in custody? Yes. Okay, so just so we're clear, before you went into custody, how would you characterize your closeness with Dirk? Were y'all close?
Starting point is 01:10:42 Were y'all acquaintances? How would you characterize that? Man, he was just one of the guys. I mean, he wasn't really my circle I hung Rick. One of the people that was older than me, I mean, bro, was making songs for the parties, you know. I mean, we meet each other, but it wasn't on some note every day hanging out. She'd none like that. See each other. We shake it up. We dab it up.
Starting point is 01:11:03 What up? Just that. So did you just say he wasn't in your circle? Did you say he really wasn't in your circle? No. Is that what you said? He wasn't in your circle? Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Okay, that was confusing. Okay. So when did you first get in contact with Mr. banks while you were in custody. So my baby mama, hearsay. And it says it's a defendant's statements in any event, Your Honor. The court says, excuse me, still says it didn't sound like that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Of course, says you ask when, so the question again, jam can, so actually that jam can understand it to figure out what you're asking for. Okay. Ballpark it for us. When did you first talk to Dirk when you were in custody? like 2012, 2013. All right. And again, you could ask Banks in a conversation, but not anybody else.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Cool. By the court is a judge. Did you learn that Mr. Banks had placed money or given money to your attorney? Yeah. Did that cause you to have a conversation with Banks? Yeah. How much money did you give your lawyer as far as you know? You gave him $1,000.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Was that expected or unexpected? I was unexpected. He said, why? I mean, I ain't asked for it. Like I said, we ain't have a super close friendship at the time for him to do that. So I would expect that from other people who were close to. But when he did it, I was like, all right, it was kind of surprising. So let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:12:38 While you were still on the streets, did you have any reason to believe that Banks knew that you had a reputation of violence? Objection. That one got sustained. He said, did Banks write songs about where he talked to you, talked about your murders? Yeah. Do you believe he understood that you had a reputation for violence? because he talked about it, because he talked about it in the songs.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Objection. Another sustain. Okay, so now Steel is stringing together a couple sustainments to make sure the conversation doesn't go in a path. He doesn't want to go. Okay, good. So you learn he's putting money on your books
Starting point is 01:13:12 and giving money to your attorney. It creates a communication relationship between the two, right? Yeah. And tell us about that. How often do you talk to you while you're in custody? Man, what if I'm here or there. to we start talking a lot.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Did he put money at books? Yeah, how much? Like just all together. Just give us an example. What are we talking? Thousands, hundreds. I'm going to keep it 100. It was different.
Starting point is 01:13:40 For different times, I mean, it went from 50 to 100 to a couple hundred to a thousand. Shit like that. Can you give us an understanding like, is $50 and 100 worth the same amount of money outside as in prison? No. Can you explain it? stuff in jail it's like cheaper so it could go a long way is it important to have money on your books so you could buy stuff uh okay all right we're still not even this testimony is kind of long
Starting point is 01:14:15 i can't even lie to you let's cast back up in court they did take a break it's starting to rain over here by me chat i'm not going to lie okay we do have uh up this is from today okay remember blackshire says jam says we just sitting here like this shit going look suspicious so we pulled off I think this is when they try to kill Kondo at the dispensary remember they were following Kwanno around
Starting point is 01:14:50 he stops his dispensary Jam says this is when we started having second thoughts Jam says I started saying this shit don't feel right we're trying to scramble to do some shit they ain't no real plan prosecutor says what do you mean no real plan what could go wrong
Starting point is 01:15:06 Jam says police interference they scared flaka and them is scared. They too jittery. Jam says he wanted Didi to call it off. Jam refers to Dirk as blood during this testimony.
Starting point is 01:15:23 The prosecutor said, what's the difference between your relationship with blood and Dedy? Jam says they had a relationship with each other in the streets. We didn't before I went to prison. Jam says you don't get in the way of someone trying to kill somebody
Starting point is 01:15:39 where I'm from. That'll get you killed. They pay for my flight. I don't even know how to book a flight. I don't even know how to book a like it's going down chat all right let me get back to uh all right i want to skip through this a little bit okay so he's describing how dirk was giving him money right so witnesses they're saying how did he put money on your do you know if dirk was putting money on your books personally like how was he giving you money objection overruled he was having somebody else do it he did himself he did himself a few times but mainly he did it through jason Is Jason Jason Smith?
Starting point is 01:16:39 Yeah. How do you know Jason Smith was involved in putting money in your books? Because when you get Western Union slipped through the mail, you got the first name on it. And like the other times, I was just calling out some money, and Dirk would tell me, call Jason, tell Jason to do it. Tell him I said do it. Would you tell Jason to do it, or would you tell Jason or ask him for money?
Starting point is 01:17:01 Yeah. Did there come a time you're in custody that you learn Mr. Banks was shouting you out in songs? Yeah. Tell me about that. But the first time I was in Centralia Other inmates Every time they would see me They'd be like
Starting point is 01:17:13 You free my nigga jam Get him out that jam And I just didn't know what they meant by that Because I know my name is jam I thought they were just saying stuff But the older one of the older guys I was messing with Key
Starting point is 01:17:24 I had bought dirt tape And I think it was called Life Ain't a joke or something He had a song there called Tom And in that song he said That's what he said Free my nigga Jam Get him out that jam
Starting point is 01:17:37 and I heard it, so that's when I realized that's where it came from. Here's a question. Is one of your nicknames jam? Yeah, that's my only nickname. So you're familiar with the song by Banks called Back Again? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Your Honor, let's admit this in a court, so 3.95 is the audio of Back Again. So let me ask you a couple questions about these lyrics. It begins by saying, Blast his ass. I don't even I don't even ask when they come to cash They catch him blast his ass Jam get out that jam I gave him 50
Starting point is 01:18:12 Or I give him 50 and got to ask again Is that referring to you? Yeah And I give him 50 How do you understand that to be? Like 50,000 Cash money And Mr. Banks continues
Starting point is 01:18:27 He was catching murders way back then Is that you? Yeah They said Why do you believe these things are referring to you? I mean, he said my name. Ain't no other jam. And he said he was catching murders.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Way back then, that's when the Max was in. Max was a gun. Everybody knew I used to carry that shit. He said, they were known. I was known to carry murders with it. When I was young before I was in a prison, that was just my gun of choice. A lot of people knew that.
Starting point is 01:19:08 So that's why I felt he was talking about me. Now, would you say that while you were in custody? Banks was a particularly supportive person of you? Yeah. Can you explain it? I mean, when you go to jail, it's like it's like your loss. If I'm going to be honest
Starting point is 01:19:27 with you, man. To me, people forget about you. I haven't gone wrong. He didn't. He stayed in touch with me. Smirk made sure I was straight. He changed his number. He would tell my mama and give her his new number to make sure she had it. He talked to me
Starting point is 01:19:43 even when he was busy and he only had a couple of minutes he still picked up his phone did you appreciate that of course at some point you got out of prison right you said that was February 22 right yeah
Starting point is 01:19:58 once you got out of prison did you have any clothes when you first came out yeah were you giving clothing yeah by who dirt bought me some shit and Jason gave it to my mom for me Can you explain that?
Starting point is 01:20:17 I had talked to Dirk on the phone and I told him like, yo, basically I'm coming home and nothing. I told him, man, I ain't got no clothes. I ain't got nothing. And he's like, yes, you do. You got us. You come home with us.
Starting point is 01:20:30 And I told him I needed some clothes. So I was going to have Jason go pick me up some stuff and like call Jason tell Jason get your size. Call Jason tell Jason your sizes. Okay. It's kind of a tough read a bit. I'm realizing.
Starting point is 01:20:48 It's not an easy read. It's a tough read because the court reporter doesn't understand some of the slang. They're using some slang here. All right. All right. All right, all right. Let's scroll down. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Now he's out of custody. Got clothes. Here we go. Do you remember how long you were out of custody when this photo got taken? Not that long. Maybe, I don't know, four or five days, maybe a week or something. something like that? Not long. A couple of days. Where was this taking? Detroit. How'd you know? How'd you get there? And the driver took, yeah, the driver took me. Me, boogie, wop. They took us to meet
Starting point is 01:21:45 Dirk. You said a driver named Sam took you? He said, yeah. Okay, we'll talk about boogie a bit later. But you did end up meeting with banks. First of all, because you identified the people in this photo. Yeah, from my left is, I'm looking at the screen. To my left is twin. You got Didi, then there's me, then there's Dirk, then little cousin Wap standing behind and boogie on the side of him. So this is the person you indicated is Didi, right? Yeah. What is he doing with his hands?
Starting point is 01:22:17 Dropping the rakes. Is he disrespecting the gangster disciples? Yeah. Who is the individual here on the far left? Twin. Is that an OTF member? Yeah. And obviously this is Banks, right?
Starting point is 01:22:31 Yeah. What is he doing with his hand? Stowing up OTF. Right? They keep asking about Wop, this and third. Okay, they're going to start asking about this murder again. All right. Chat, is there any other updates that we're missing, man?
Starting point is 01:23:00 I don't want this to be just a read-along this entire time, you know? So we mix it up with a couple of videos, et cetera. So it appears that 2022, he gets out of jail. He's getting brought around the fold with a bunch of people. OTF Jim, 2022, IG Live. Let me go to what Armand said to. Oh, I got. Another nigga in the gang said, no.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Let me give you the AK, the Gat, the Gucci, whatever the fuck, you know. Obviously, there's the sentencing. But I feel like he kind of flipped because they kind of, he feels like they probably had him fucked up. Yeah. Because as we'll go on, you'll realize he didn't really know a lot of these motherfuckers. And he was ending up, he was Dirk friend and maybe Dianre friend. But they had him taking on other people's beefs.
Starting point is 01:24:23 And he was just killing motherfuckers that he didn't know. And he was killing motherfuckers with motherfuckers. He didn't know. For real. But we'll get into it. They said, and see, the prosecution did a good job here. They said, is everybody bad? Or does everybody have to be fucking violent?
Starting point is 01:24:52 Because in my mind, I'm sure the defense would have came and said, hey, everybody in OTF or, you know, BD or whatever the damn things are, they're not all bad people. And he said, well, no, everybody's not bad. Some of them, everybody don't kill. They're not all shooters. Some of them escape. Okay, he says, that's before. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:25:10 I'm just kidding. I don't know if he's been subpoenaed in any way by the defense. I don't know. But let's get into it. August 8, 2002. Booney, I think that's Asa Houston, A, A, Houston. He got a call. Mind you, the niggas, OTF Jamper's in the car with his baby mom and this,
Starting point is 01:25:44 and I think it's early that morning, in the car early that morning, taking their daughter, their kid or son's daughter, dropping them off to school or practice. Little bro, we need you to get on the flight right now to L.A. It's a lot going on. D.D. not answering the phone. Also used to this as boogie, not booney mooney moot. We need you to get on.
Starting point is 01:26:08 We need you to get on a flight to L.A. right now. Little Durk is on the other phone, so mind you. Let me give me an example. Yeah, this, he's about to do what I think was described in court. Trapler Ross said something, no, not Trapler Ross. Somebody else said something else saying that, no, it wasn't two phones. He basically just FaceTime and put, he was like, yo, look at the killers back there. Let me see.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Phone A, phone B. Yeah. By the way, I think Jam was starting to run. realize that Dirk, you know, Dirk only really trusted a few of those nays. So Dedy could get in touch with, with Dirk,
Starting point is 01:27:04 Vani could get in touch with Dirk, Booney Moe could get in touch with Dirk, but Dirk can't want to talk to none of these other niggas. And I think that made Jam feel a certain type of way. You know why? Jam over here feeling like a flunky. Jam is feeling like a flunky because he's putting in the most amount of, he's putting in the most amount of work
Starting point is 01:27:34 compared to some of these other guys and he can't even holl at Dirk when he wants to. Also, this matters too a lot. Okay? One second. Sorry. Jam, he got the most street experience. He done put the most work in.
Starting point is 01:28:07 and he's getting told what to do he can't even get on the phone with Dirk. Remember, he'll do anything for Dirk. Dirk was putting money on his books. Dirk was keeping him right. Dirk was sending his mom money, paying for lawyers before, or at least since his lawyer a thousand.
Starting point is 01:28:23 He'd do it for Dirk. He gets on the flight. He's not getting no orders from Dirk. Dirk calls one time, but it's on a phone. That's not the phone they even have. He's like Dirk talking over there. He kind of confused about this,
Starting point is 01:28:37 Also, he's getting marching orders, and this might not, this does matter. He 34, he getting marching orders from Vonny. Vonny is in the 20s. So if you were the big killer that you felt you just had a relationship with Dirk, you come around, dirt got you answering to the little niggas. The little niggas. Nah, no, no, we're doing it like this. Jam ain't really feeling it.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Jam ain't really feeling it but Jam going to do it but he's not feeling it now if he got if he got the Cali and dirt called his phone and be like yo you big brother this is what I need you to do for me
Starting point is 01:29:22 or if dirt was like yo pull up to the house I gotta tell you what I need he would have been he would have been with it more with it but he started feeling like something's off because he can't get a touch he can't get a hold of dirt he's a quad and a nigger
Starting point is 01:29:37 Dirk is on this phone. Hey, I need you to come. We know it's a lot going on. I need you to pop up and get ready to go to L.A. Dirk, he's on the other line. But yeah, we need you to get there. Ain't nobody answering. But see, Dirk, he not on no three-way calls.
Starting point is 01:30:00 He's not really telling them what's going on, but he hears in the voice that we got to move quickly. Now, remember, remember, and this is where Jam also start realizing and they look at him as a flunky. Remember, they sent him on a drill with T.T.E. Ted, baby threat. Baby threat, when he get locked up for the gun, he's crying like a schoolgirl. So you got a nigger who he'd been doing this and shooting at people since 12th.
Starting point is 01:30:33 He's now in his 30s. And they got him on flunky mode because every nigger they got around. him is unexperienced, but them niggas got the rank, quote, quote, because of their family members. Oh, yeah, now, baby threat, that's Deeske's little brother. You go on a drill with him, you realize he's a goofy. They tell you to come to L.A. You go to L.A. Smirk don't even want to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:31:08 You taking orders from Oteevani. They claim that he's a goofy. They claim he never really did nothing. So now y'all riding around You like you you know Didi a bit and you're like all right Didi's a nigga who's he's up to par You realize these guys is fish out of water
Starting point is 01:31:30 And this is what Jam is starting to realize Because Jam is saying Yo I know y'all just trying to We're trying to kill this nigga but Nick I'm a killer nigga I ain't I've been killing now we can't do it here Now you don't do it like that
Starting point is 01:31:43 And he realizes they're rushing just to get it done they're rushing they just want to get it done he's kind of scoping out the scene also he don't know L.A. If it was Chicago you know man you know ain't no cops come on this damn
Starting point is 01:31:59 block nigga we good for whenever we could pop out it could pop out at 8 a.m. noon 3 p.m. we could get it lit they're in L.A. driving at different places he even misunderstood he says yo I didn't even know what the Beverly Center was by the way the
Starting point is 01:32:14 Beverly Center is the most prestigious mall in LA high profile he's saying he didn't even know what the hell that was he didn't know what the hell that was
Starting point is 01:32:26 until his lawyer told him basically kind of goes into the fact that he was confused and he was a little bit like hesitant even though he still did it and OTF Jam
Starting point is 01:32:38 hangs up and calls dirt dirt doesn't answer the phone Boone he calls Jam and say what's up black yeah so Jam want to get on the phone with dirt
Starting point is 01:32:48 because he's probably one of those, remember, he's getting told what to do about Goofy. Like, no way to nigga like Vani, you know, they say Vani, like he's not a street dude like that. It sounds like Vani would have probably brought, brought the mask and the gloves, and then folded up the receipt and put in his pocket, kept the receipt. You know, you got to keep it for tax purposes. That's how, so you can imagine a killer like Jam looking at like, like, y'all got this goofy over here handing out masks and gloves. and then apparently he's putting a gun in everybody's in and Jam is looking at like, you know, what type of goof?
Starting point is 01:33:26 Yo, we're smirk. Let me holl that smirk. You know one of those that? I got to go talk to the boss. Like, sometimes you got to go over to supervisor. I got to go talk to the boss. He just talked to, Dirk just kind of like, not really talked to him,
Starting point is 01:33:37 but it's like, all right, I see what you're doing. He told him, this is what Dirk told him. Yo, go crazy. Yo, go crazy. But now he's just trying to get some more clarification. He called Dirk phone directly. D&D, straight to voicemail. Call it again.
Starting point is 01:33:55 D&D, straight to voicemail. Dirk ain't answering. Booney Moe call him. You know what that is, right? That mean, Dirk told Booney Moe, yo, could you hit this nigga Jam and see what he want? The fuck? Why he keep calling my phone like that?
Starting point is 01:34:10 So Booney Moe Moe hit Jam. Like, yo, Jan, what's go? What's you need, nigga? You got to imagine what Jam is thinking. Like, yo, this is like some. flunky shit they got me on. There's some crash out shit. I can't talk to Dirk.
Starting point is 01:34:24 I'm out here with random niggins about to do a murder. They got the goofy passing out gloves and masks. Yo, Dedy moving weird. They said Didi had the gun in his hand the day before. Pointing that through the window at Kwando? I said, man, I should, I should. I could kill him right now. He's lacking.
Starting point is 01:34:46 The next day, they said, said Dedy put the gun in James hand and said, I ain't going to lie, blood. I'm rusty as hell, man. I'm rusty. I'm rusty, gang. I'm rusty. You handle this murder. You handle this murder. What? You mean, you rusty, niggins. It's just
Starting point is 01:35:01 time for you to get back in the field. Somebody said, they're not random. I'm going to tell you why I say the word random. He know Keith Jones. He know Keith Jones. He don't know Brownhows like that. Okay? He don't know a boogie like that.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Okay? I'm talking about Jam. It's random because you know why they asked me these questions about King Vaughn? Bro, the nigger got out in February 2022. He was locked up for 12 years. Nigger, he said he spoke to King Vaughn like once or twice on the phone, nigga. He said he did not know King Vaughn. What he's trying to say is that, nigga, he wasn't hurt by King Vaughn dying like how Little Dirk was crippled.
Starting point is 01:35:48 You know, Little Dirk was like, y'all, I can't eat. Like, well, you didn't say that, but he was basically saying, He's damn there suicidal. He didn't give a fuck about no King Von Beef, nigga. He didn't care about it. So when he's out there, he got his man's with him, but they don't really know what's, they ain't got no anima.
Starting point is 01:36:06 They're just out there. So it's a random thing they're doing, and it's kind of random because there's other niggas around. He's never seen Vonny before. No, no, let me not say it, never seen Von. He, he don't know Vonny to be involved in these type of situations. Vonnie not going to be the nigger who, like, right before the drill, he'd give you the gun. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:36:28 Even though we're going to hear them testify later that every time they showed up the venues, Vani would put a gun in his hand. So that's what I'm saying, random people, because, nigger, you can't talk to the person that you're down to do the crime for. Dirk not talking to you. You're talking to everybody but he. He said, I just called blood. He said, blood die until he said blood don't want to talk to nobody that's going to L.A. Nobody that's going to L.A. can call blood on his phone.
Starting point is 01:36:55 you just can't son they got in touch with Jason sent over their person dirt thought he was being smart with that one and I think he was a little bit yeah none of you all call my phone right now man information he sent over his cousin's information too
Starting point is 01:37:20 the cousin fucked around was smart and stupid at the same time the cousin had sent over his cousin's information because the cousin was supposed to be traveling with him in LA to commit the murder but the cousin was stupid and smart and when I say stupid and smart he was stupid because he didn't have he was a grown man and he couldn't find his ID but he was
Starting point is 01:37:38 smart because he was a grown man and couldn't find his motherfucking ID so he missed the flight see that's another thing too yeah so jam was supposed to bring another nigger and then that but that thing was his cousin so jam then calls up keith jones okay that was malcolm yeah now that's what he called keith jones they've got the confirmation numbers, things like that, boom. They leave right now. They said, well, did you pack a bag? No.
Starting point is 01:38:16 I'm not sure if they watched their best, they team. He left his bitch. He left his kids and he head straight to the airport, August 18th. They went to the airport now. They said, blood don't want you flying straight to L.A., so you got to fly to San Diego. We all going to San Diego. So, essentially,
Starting point is 01:38:39 Azer Houston, DeAndre Wilson Keith Jones I feel like they found David Lindsay somewhere and OTF jam they all fly to San Diego
Starting point is 01:38:54 they get an Uber So this is how the recruitment goes of this joint right they need some shooters by the way in the long lure of this whole situation y'all
Starting point is 01:39:07 they said Dirk was starting to use one of the reasons Dirk stopped being like you know he kind of drifts away from Lamron. Them Lamron niggas was, they was not trying to be crash out hitman for Dirk. So Dirk got the money, got the resources, got the cloud. I bet y'all niggas don't want to,
Starting point is 01:39:25 when I tell y'all a nigga got to get whacked, y'n't try and do it. I bet I'm going to hang with these niggas. When he started hanging with them Tateown niggas, them niggas is like, it's up for anybody smirk got smoked with. Basically, yes, man, no disrespect. Anything smirk says goes. All right, who, yo, yo, you ever seen the shit in a while?
Starting point is 01:39:43 Yo, who we killing, boss? That's it. Yo, who getting smoked? That's the energy Dirk want. Dirk don't want no niggas who'd be like, nah, blood, chill out. Yo, blood, like, we got this. Man, all right, man, y'all niggins ain't body.
Starting point is 01:39:54 I'm about to hang with these niggas. These things gonna do whatever I need. Fuck that. All right. So Dirk over there, them niggas is like, they're ready to, like, let's go. Go! That's what they are, right?
Starting point is 01:40:04 So when Dirk is over there, you know, it also kind of gets a little hot because, you know, I think Dirk was always kind of like, I in the feds, like, thinking that they might be trying to peep shit. So what will happen is Dirk also start using out-of-town niggas. So Dirk will use these out-of-town niggas. And by the way, that kind of became a little popular in Chicago, too.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Like, shit, I mean, I'm going to mention no rapper's name. There's a few rappers who, apparently in Chicago, they just started doing hits, like, for, like, on some contracted hitman shit where, like, a nigger will, they'll go over here and go kill for these people just randomly, right? Like people would just hire him to kill people. So they said supposedly Dirk would just, you know, get some of the guys to get niggas out of town to go do the hits. That's how they said they, they, um, I ain't going to mention that situation.
Starting point is 01:40:54 But anyway. But or niggas from like different sets. You know what I mean? Like, niggas not, like you can't use your immediate circle to keep killing people. They're going to be like, nigga, we've seen him last night. And we've seen the dreds. So he would just kind of get people that was auxiliary. So to get this murder done, they're saying that Smirk gets Didi to go get the niggins.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Right? So Didi gets Lindsay. So Didi picks up the phone, you'll Lindsay, I need you, Brown eyes, I need you. By the way, that's why Dedy, I mean, Brown eyes is not flipping. Whatever Dedy's program is on, obviously I'm thinking Dirk is probably taking care of both lawyers. That's why he ain't flipping, but Dedy's supposedly recruited Lindsay. feel me then jam
Starting point is 01:41:43 was supposed to come with another nigger so jam was supposed to bring another nigger except the other nigger I don't know if he peeped game or whatever the nigger say you don't got his ID they scramble last minute they get Keith Jones so that's how the recruitment goes
Starting point is 01:42:00 that's what I was saying about like dirt getting found guilty is like your bro it's no time did dirt tell you go get Keith Jones my nigger like you did that on your own and it's going to be be hard for these guys to prove that Dirk told him to recruit. And that's why honestly, Didi not cooperating. Obviously, Vani is like a punch of the gut.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Because Vani's going to put the story together. Vani is literally, he's the plan executor, right? He gets the guns, the BNBs, organizes sprinters. He is meeting you there and meet you here. He's the one. He's going to be the guy that tries to. Jam is the cooperator that proves how violent these guys are,
Starting point is 01:42:46 how dangerous they are, and proves the bodies. That's what Jam does. Vani is going to prove Dirk did it. Or he ordered it, okay? Because you could tell even Dirk knew,
Starting point is 01:43:04 nigger, man, I flew you ass out here for a hit, nigga. I'm not answering your phone calls, nigger like the fuck? I'm not, bro, stop call my phone, matter of fact, nigger. Yo, Vonny, yo, go, go, go. Yo, cancel this number.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Get me a new phone. Yo, stop calling. Nigger, you out here to do a murder. Why are you calling me for, nigga? But I hope you're kind of getting the demeanor, though. Jam is starting to feel like he are flunky. Also, here's the thing, too. Notice it?
Starting point is 01:43:41 You give a nigga a fish. You're going to have to feed him for life. You teach him out of fish, he's going to be good. When Jam got out and got the 50K, now after he gets the 50K, and he allegedly tries to go slide a couple of times for you
Starting point is 01:43:58 and one nigga gets killed nigga you think he'd be expecting 50K for that nigga you're expecting like a hundred nigga 200 like what do you think this is remember reping a dude right reputation all the way up mine did some shit back the day whatever whatever he did 12 years
Starting point is 01:44:15 when he got out Dirk gave him 50 bands now maybe in Dirk's mind is like nigger that 50 Bands ain't for you doing time. That 50 bands is a deposit on the murders. Right?
Starting point is 01:44:30 Jam is thinking, nah, that's, that's like, you know, I'm in the family. That's love. That's OTF shit. So after he did a couple of sliding, he's like, all right, you gave me 50 bans for me getting out. What after I murdered a couple of niggins? Where that at? Where that paper at?
Starting point is 01:44:46 Nah, Crotie, we don't buy subscriptions. It's a one-time payment. Get tight. But I want you to get. get in the mindset of jam he's calling smirk smirk ain't answering
Starting point is 01:45:05 he got to he's older than these niggas he got to talk to little guy vani he got to every time he called dirk booney moe call him it's like they sent him off like trust me
Starting point is 01:45:24 he can't be that stupid I think they were on their way to hooter and also while they tried to try to to figure out, okay, they get the drop. They're trying to figure out how they're going to try to kill this nigga now. The niggas in the cars are saying goofy shit.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Nah, let's do it right here. He peeping the game like, now. I don't even know LA like that, but shit, hold on. There ain't a car for there? Wait, I want to just go kill a nigga in the dispensary. They'll make sure there ain't no fucking cameras in there. Like, bro, your brown eyes. You go in there and go see, like, what's the vibes, nigga?
Starting point is 01:45:55 Like, he realizing he's on a drill with rookies. straight up he's on a drill with rookies I find they catch Kwondo with the gas dish yo now's the time first nigga hop out the car
Starting point is 01:46:11 brown eyes Lindsay he's on some no allow shit jam is a fat nigger and he got his red and white prodders on he ain't trying to scuff those up on the drill
Starting point is 01:46:22 okay he trailing behind him he knows Dirk warns Kondo Rondo deceased nigger this ain't no step currie shit why the fuck you're shooting from the logo he want a goddamn slam dunk he want to walk him down he can't walk him down because brown eyes he already pulled out his gun 20 feet away he's shooting all over the place with the fucking switch this is how the gun going
Starting point is 01:46:51 i don't it nigger they fought like a hundred shots and only three bullets hit survive robinson so now you can't run in front of those bullets so he said fuck it god damn it I'm on a drill with a bunch of fucking rookies. He's on a drill with rookies. So all he could do is fucking, he got to just stand right next to this rookie and get his shots off. Apparently, you don't even hear, he says one of them niggins gun only fired one bullet either jammed and that nigga never shot again.
Starting point is 01:47:25 What? You got to imagine when he's like, man, I'm, man, I'm, he probably felt like he was the goddamn, he was LeBron James on a 2012, Cavs, nigga. This is... It wasn't on the Cavs, but... Damn, let me not be in the league. A long time.
Starting point is 01:47:42 Like, the 2007 calves, nigga. You got Eric Snow. Eric Snow is like the only nigga... This is ridiculous, man. Boobie Gibson. Fuck out of here. After these niggas miss, 99% of the shots that were fired,
Starting point is 01:48:02 they get back in the car. And nobody says, yo, let's get out of town. They say... Yo, where's there's in and out? Bunch of rookies, man. But you're hearing it. First, he said.
Starting point is 01:48:17 Because then they had to wait for it. And then they were waiting for DD and did some other stuff. So then they all got together, switched cards at some point and ended up in a Sprinter brand. They went, um, I have duty low is one finding low. Duty low. They had got,
Starting point is 01:48:36 how ironic. A nigga named Duty low is getting the low. Duty low drops the low. Duty low is getting all the lows. So he still didn't know what was going on That apparently they got on the FaceTime With Dutley Lowe And Dutley Lowe
Starting point is 01:48:51 Now you gotta imagine They sending this man off He tried to call Smirk Booty Moe call him He like, yo damn What are we out here? What's the plan? Hold on Smirk by the call
Starting point is 01:49:01 I bet Smirk called on a different phone And he on a different phone What? Yo, what's the plan? What are we fin of do? We got to like make moves We got to plan this shit out
Starting point is 01:49:13 Hold up Let's put duty load on the phone. Everybody but smirk. Oh, and pretty much told them that, hey, you're here, you guys are on this mission to kill Cuando Rondo. And that he has the locations of where Quando Rondo would be staying because Quando Rondo's weed man had been in negotiations and talks with Dutie Lowe. And duty low was giving them the drop on every square that Quando Rondo would be via Kwanso. Rondo Rondo's weed ban. Now, didn't I tell y'all this chat?
Starting point is 01:49:55 Chat, didn't I tell you all this? OTF Jam right now is the court testifying to that. Yo, Dirk put him with the rookie squad. Dirk put him with this. He put him in the remedial class. The ESL niggas. The niggas with the helmets. Nigger jamming shoot niggas for 12 years.
Starting point is 01:50:16 Well, not 12 years, but like, you get what I'm saying. Since he was like 12, nigger. Here's the thing. Jam says when he was in the slider, he sent the text. Remember, you got Vonie and Dee Dee in that BMW. They don't got no guns, though. Their car is just only to follow to escalate,
Starting point is 01:50:34 but the shooters is in the infinity. They all got the guns. They got the masks. They got the gloves. Jam sent a text to somebody in the BMW while they follow in Kwando. They said, right, let's not do this shit. Yo, these bitch-ass niggins is scared. He can hear they heart beating.
Starting point is 01:50:57 They're panicking. He's looking at it like, I can't go on no drill with these niggins is scared of shitless. The prosecutor said he sent the text saying, nah, bro, don't do it. These bitch-ass niggins is scared in this car. He can smell the fear. Prosecutor said, you got a text back from that? Nah. So Jam is basically saying not only did he not have a.
Starting point is 01:51:32 motive to kill Cuando Rondo because he wasn't sliding for Vaughn like you know that shit don't affect him he was locked up for all the time that Vaughn was out and pop in he said he said even though he ain't know what he was there for when he got told he was to kill Cuando he said you don't get in the way of somebody trying to kill somebody where I'm from that get you kill they pay for the flight they don't even know how to book a flight nigga now what kind of goes into this did Dirk just hire a bunch of disposable niggis and probably say fuck if they're rookies are not.
Starting point is 01:52:17 But if, you know, by the way, this is, we're making assumptions here. But if he did do that, I'm sorry, what Trenches News said, it kind of sounds right. If you're going to hire the rookies who are sloppy, they're scared shitless, they're a fish out of water to go kill people in L.A.
Starting point is 01:52:37 They don't know the territory. They don't know the terrain. They don't know nothing. Shit, they don't even want to run up on the vehicle to do it. They want to shoot from way back there. You might as well do what Trenches News said. Man, when they get back to Chicago, y'all got to get rid of the shooters too, man. The shooter's got to go too.
Starting point is 01:52:55 That's the only way you get safe, Dirk. They said, is this something that you wanted to do? He said, no. But where I'm from, you don't stop somebody from trying to kill somebody because guess what? You either kill or be killed. Matthew said, you see the video OTF Jam came out three years ago saying, They knew Dirk and them before prison.
Starting point is 01:53:21 Yeah, he did. He said he knew Dirk from around the way. He knew Dirk from around the way. And if you try to stop somebody, motherfucker's going to think you... He just said he ain't hanging the same circles with him, but he knew him. And he said how he knew that Dirk became a BD.
Starting point is 01:53:45 He said Dirk would do the handshakes and he said Dirk would start making songs for like, you know, like song for bitches or whatever. Like he was starting to heat up, but he was making songs or whatever. But they didn't hang together. acting weird. Are you like a police?
Starting point is 01:53:59 So they'll kill you. So I had to say, fuck it, I'm here. They said, do you have a problem with Cuando Rondo? He said, no. Quando Rondo's beef is not my fucking beef. I don't know these niggas. Okay. That's where the intended thing is.
Starting point is 01:54:15 He's trying to say, man, I ain't got no problem with no goddamn Quando. Why, I keep saying I got a problem with the nigger. I'm a fucking rapper. Now, it's important when he's locked up because remember, he's locked up from 2010 to 22. Young boy starts popping, like, 2015? 2015, 2016, young boys like heating up whatever Quando like right after
Starting point is 01:54:40 Like bro he's never on the street for none of this King Vaughn don't even become a rapper until like 2018 2018 2018 2019 Yeah he's not around for these for the shit So that's why he's saying Bro I don't give a fuck about no Kwondo Rondo and
Starting point is 01:55:01 Beef with them niggas or Or I'm not like on some slide for Vahn shit, but he do care about Dirk. Don't have shit to do with me. But that's why people use the grooming word, because Dirk was, remember he said that he was shocked that Dirk put money on his books.
Starting point is 01:55:21 He said he knew Dirk, he knew Dirk was a BD, but he ain't no Dirk like that. He said Dirk randomly put money on his books and this is the thought the prosecutor's going with. Dirk put money on the books. Like, let me explain. Again, these,
Starting point is 01:55:38 I'm explaining these allegations, but I'm not saying this is all facts, bro, okay? And I've seen some stupid shit. I've seen some people put some... Listen, the prosecutor, nor the jury, is not listening to academics, okay? You know, I've seen... I see... I got to showcase this guy's tweet. Carlos Miller, he's like a comedian.
Starting point is 01:56:02 You know, is guys like this that keep black people back? because I think he's watching the trial through maybe my stream or something else. And in all the things we've discussed, at no point did in his genius brain made him go online and say, hey kids, do not join gangs. Hey kids, don't pick up guns. You know what this guy thought after watching everything? Yo, is Traplor Ross or academics?
Starting point is 01:56:31 That's going to fuck up Dirk's whole trial. This is the black community right here. This guy. After seeing that the shooters is telling on him, after seeing that these niggins shot at the Beverly Center, it's in 4K. At no point does he say, hey, don't become a rich, famous rapper
Starting point is 01:56:52 and start paying for murders like you're ordered off Amazon, okay? Don't become a rich famous rapper and buy stolen cars and give it to your gang that they could just slide and kill people in perpetuity. Don't become a rich famous rapper, rap about exactly what you just did, and then laugh about it on live and expect no investigation. This guy said it's going to be academics and trap Lord Ross
Starting point is 01:57:15 that's going to fuck up Dirk's case. When you hear guys like this, you just got to be like, niggas is cooked. This thing is cooked. You get what I'm saying? Listen, y'all know, and I got the free Dirk t-shirt on or the hoodie. But what we are discussing here, even though we hope Dirk didn't do these things.
Starting point is 01:57:37 We got to be very, very weary and very mindful that there is no, like, even when they'd be like, oh, yeah, Dirk was saving these things for Slide for Vaughn. Man, Dirk's a grown-ass man, bro. Ain't nobody could, ain't nobody could trick you out of millions and trick you out of your nine, eight kids, trick you out of your beautiful baby mama. You can't blame that on a commenter. You can't blame that on no six, nine. But this is what half of the black community actually thinks this.
Starting point is 01:58:11 They don't, they don't, criminality is normal to them. They will say everybody's tricking these niggas out of the spot. No, nigger, maybe this person tricked themselves out of the spot when they flew a fucking Bruford on a private jet from Miami to L.A. to go buy guns, masks, and gloves and hand them out like his candy, like his trick-or-treat. The nigger kept the fucking receipt. Keep the receipt for your crimes. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:58:45 Get an exotic car to stalk the person you're trying to kill and it got GPS in it. Perfect. Nobody did this, but the niggas involved. I'm sorry to tell y'all. Nobody. And again,
Starting point is 01:59:01 we're hoping these things ain't true because in the best way I want to look at this, I know I support dirt. I want to believe this was Vonny's OTIAvvani, his nerd ass. that Bonnie kind of remind me of me of me. You know damn well you shouldn't be playing that street. You know damn well you're supposed to set up a King Vaughn Foundation,
Starting point is 01:59:22 keep it moving, help his mama out, have his sister like showcase like this is the effects of gun violence and y'all all keep it moving. Instead of his sister over there still acting like Vaughn alive, she wilding on the gram. I'm going to ignore her on Twitter. And then you basically have this nigger who's handing out guns. And then to a certain extent we got to blame Dirk.
Starting point is 01:59:45 I get it. When Vaughn was around, Zoo around him, there's a lot of people who were saying there was, he was keeping these killers, these energy around him, that Dirk felt he had to be X, Y, and Z. Okay, got you, giving you all of that. But what is the excuse when Vaughn is dead? It felt like Dirk turned it up once Vaughn died. Not that. That's why when people keep blaming Vaughn is like, wait, what?
Starting point is 02:00:13 Niggins sound like Dirk turned the heat up when Vaughn is dead. died. Not when he was alive. So again, accountability. I know it's lacking in the black community, but please, Mr. Carlos Miller, I'm pretty sure you're a hilarious comedian, but you know, you should probably just watch this case. And if you have children of your own, instead of talking about the journalists or whoever else is covering it or the media members, you should tell them, hey, listen, you should not walk around with a switch. You should not think your man is going to be loyal to you because you paid $1,000 for his lawyer a decade ago. You should not have all these calls with these people that could be not because you
Starting point is 02:00:57 deleted on your phone. It doesn't mean you really deleted the iCloud because the fans was on you. They got it. These are the things you should teach your kids. And by the way, I hope that there's some lessons in this being learned. Okay, Mr. Carlos. But yeah, there's a lot of people who think like him. Anyway, let's return to this.
Starting point is 02:01:17 Bond was not my friend. I said, oh, he's getting more. Now, this is an important strategy, chat. Von Jam is saying, Vaughn is not my friend. Okay? That is to attack the point that Steele is going to make to say,
Starting point is 02:01:40 why would Dirk have to compensate you if you were doing a crime or killing someone that you were hurt by. Now, it's going to be harder for Brian Steele to prove this because on face value when you say that, like, that's a great defense. Nigel, why would I got to hire my friend to go slide for my other friend?
Starting point is 02:02:06 Yeah, if all three of y'all are friends, like if we got a friend group, we're all in the friend group, one person die, why would I got to pay this guy to go slide for the third person? This is why they're trying to make it clear. Yes, Jammis talked to King Vaughn in the past.
Starting point is 02:02:24 Yeah, they're from the same gang. Yeah, they're associated both with Dirk. But he was never included in the back and forth with that beef with Vaughn and Quarando. And it was never a thing where he felt he had to slide. Why? He don't even know Vaughn. So they're doing that, they're setting that point out early that Brian Steele or Drew Friendlin can,
Starting point is 02:02:50 try to create that point later. Like, oh, now, why would you have to pay him? You're going to be like, Nick, I don't even know the dudes. Of course you got to pay me. The other thing where they're trying to, they're trying to hammer home to make sure it's very aware, right? It's very aware by the jury that payment was promised is that Jam continually says he don't got no money.
Starting point is 02:03:17 He keeps saying, remember, that's going to be the tough. part for the government, but they're doing it right now. The tough part is, okay, how much was promised? Who got paid? That's the tough part to prove. You need to prove that for murder for hire. You know what Jam is saying? Now, we had that one meeting, and Dirk said,
Starting point is 02:03:38 yo, whoever will take care of this, you all going to be set for life. Now I'm pretty sure Dirk's team is going to attack that set for life thing. It could be like, hey, how do you know that was even financial compensation or even career opportunity compensation? Maybe he was just saying, yo, you'd be respected. That's not impromising anything. Apparently, when they said that somebody who was on the call
Starting point is 02:04:00 or within that meeting in Atlanta said, yo, we told my half a ticket, half a mill, right? And this is somebody said, nah, it got to be a mill. I got to be a mill right there. They say Dirk never agreed on a price. Dirk said, man, all you need to know, I think he's going to be good. Is that seen as an agreement of money,
Starting point is 02:04:17 of financial compensation, even if the amount, is not clearly defined? Or could Dirk wiggle out of that and say, I say niggins is going to be okay. That don't mean that was going to give them money or even career opportunities. It just means, shit, I just respect them.
Starting point is 02:04:34 That's not. So we're trying to see them hammer that home, but that's why they keep mentioning that Jam is broke, meaning that Jam couldn't do these things if it wasn't funded and paid for by these people who had the plan. And because Jam is so broke, one of the main reasons is not to slide for Vaughn is to slide for compensation.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Okay? He want that he, Jam won't that next 50. We're comfortable. He even made the judge laugh because they were asking him how he knew Keith Jones. And he would say he knew Cape Jones from, you know, juvenile hall and, you know, childhood. And they would beat niggas ass together. And he said, oh, sorry, Judge. I don't mean, say beat niggas and just won't.
Starting point is 02:05:17 Well, don't worry about that because, I mean, you've only just talked about blasting niggas from the ages of 9 to 7 to 7. until now shooting them in the fucking face. So, you know, you're just saying you just beat a niggas ass here and there. I don't think that's a fucking issue. You know what I mean? I mean, the judge didn't say that, but in my mind, it's kind of thinking, oh, was that all you did? And you're apologizing for that? After all, what about the hundred robberies or the fucking many murders?
Starting point is 02:05:40 But anyway. So they're in the Sprinter van and they FaceTime Lodirk. Didi does. Then you see D.D. He shows to Keith Jones, David Lindsay, Dirk on the FaceTime. Now, and by the way, chat, a little bit of my breakdown today. Because what's coming out of court, I'm going to read it verbatim. Obviously, that might even have a little tint of, you know, people's opinions on it.
Starting point is 02:06:21 I'll let you know when I'm giving my opinion or at least storytelling, meaning I'm using my brain and using your collective brains as well based on what we heard kind of like makes shit make sense, right? Like, for example, I personally don't think that Didi was ever supposed to be. I know Jam is saying the day before Didi was holding the gun pointed towards a window saying he could kill Cuando right now. I don't think Dedy was ever going to do it. I think that was his way of kind of like woofing a bit to make jamming them feel like, yo, nigga, you know, I'll do it, whatever. But he was in the BMW that was an exotic car, had a tracker on it.
Starting point is 02:06:56 Okay, he didn't have a gun. Well, supposedly he passed a gun to Jam saying he's right. Rusty. He didn't have no mask. He didn't have, he didn't have nothing. And here's the thing. Remember, when Dirk first calls, they got two different phones because they don't even want to connect the shit. They don't even want to make it seem like Dirk is talking to certain people when the phone records come out. Now Dedy calls Dedy calls D Dirk to be like, yo, Dirk, you see your shooters? You see a, you see a SWAT team back there? The mere fact that Dedy is calling Dirk and Dirk answers, but anytime Jam called him, he did not answer. Boone. Moe call back. Duty low call. Nope. D.D. could get him on the phone. Vani could get him on the phone.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Not jam. It's already predetermined. Them niggas was never going to do the shooting. They were never going to do the shooting. Again, we're doing story mode here. I'm not saying Dirk's guilty. I'm just saying if we're making sense of this. That means if there was a plot,
Starting point is 02:07:56 Dirk got to be smart enough to be like, yo, anytime these niggas call me, I'm never talking to them. because they're going to be doing the hit. Now I could talk to Diti. Now I could talk to Vani. And it kind of ends like that. Because in the car, in the cars,
Starting point is 02:08:18 the people he would answer their phone calls in the BMW. The people who phone calls don't get answered is in the infinity. Even when they're in the infinity and OTF Jam starts seeing these niggas is sweat, beating up sweat. These things are sweating before the drill. The ACs on blast. sweating like niggins is fumbling putting the fucking you know cartridges in the gun like yo these niggins you can see the heart like they they heart beating through their shirt like he's like oh hell now man i'm with the rookie squad man like yo you could you could you could tell
Starting point is 02:08:47 the jam was like oh hell no man they got me with the g league in here man oh hell no he text he tried to send the text probably to ddie yo bro let's not do it today these niggins is scared the plan was already in motion deed didn't respond back DD ain't respond back. I think Jam start realizing, nigger, you're the crash dummy. You can't stop that car in motion and nobody going to talk to you
Starting point is 02:09:18 because you're going to implicate them now. You're going to implicate these niggas. Because if you get caught and they look at your phone records, who's the last nigga you on the phone with or the last nigga that texted you back? Now, granted, Vonny got switched out the phones after that too, but, you know, the government found all the phones. Anyway.
Starting point is 02:09:36 Any show? Nah, chatty. Imagine you were a hit man. You just did, yo, he did 12 years for attempted murder. And one of the first drills they got him back on, he realized he's on the JV squad. The JV squad is going on, bro.
Starting point is 02:09:55 Yo, you ever watch JV high school basketball? Niggas is missing layup. Like, you know, they do layup line before the game start? Niggas be missing them shit. You're like, what the fuck? They send that man with the JV squad. He said, Look at the Navy Seals.
Starting point is 02:10:17 They said, well, what is the Navy Seals? Look at the JV Squad. He said the Navy Seals. I guess they're like, they go on missions. I don't know. Navy Seals is like, you know, outside of a few special, you know, forces that's within the military,
Starting point is 02:10:33 the Navy Seals is considered to be pretty much the highest and most specialized group of fighters that the American military has to offer. It was the Navy SEALs, I believe that went in and executed bin Laden. Like they go for like those specialized missions where you need,
Starting point is 02:10:54 you need a nigga who could probably detonate a bomb, like kill a man with his bare hands, swim two miles, fucking climb a fucking two mile tree. Like yeah, these guys, they go through, if you ever see their training,
Starting point is 02:11:08 I wonder if you guys ever look at this? Look, Navy SEals, they got something. I'm gonna call Hell Week. This shit is... You're went, Sandy, and Shivering, who died of bacterial pneumonia on September 2020.
Starting point is 02:11:27 It's you to do hundreds of reps of push-ups, flutter kicks, and running in and out of the surf zone. Yeah, they got these niggas doing drills, they're firing gunshots, all... Like, these are trained guys. Here's a problem. D-D calls up Dirk, and he says, yo, he says, yo, do you see the Navy SEALs we got here?
Starting point is 02:11:47 These things was JV. Walk Ons, bro. Trust me. Don't think about it as a wink. It will become easy to feel overwhelmed. Yeah, yeah, anyway. So Navy Seals was the wrong title, bro. Niggas, I mean, you know, they're Army.
Starting point is 02:12:02 Navy Seals. So they was in the car like the Navy Seals is here. Bitch, we are not. Look at the Navy Seals. Dirk tell the ass, go crazy. In the car. Heather headed to L.A. and then he said when he got on the phone with Dirk he was like when Dirk was like yeah what's up
Starting point is 02:12:31 you know he's gonna go out he said yeah I slam GD yeah he was doing this like yeah like a Navy shield like a nigga yeah okay so so apparently he was he was driving him rakes you know so jerk Dirk is on the phone and the Navy Shields and he did one this on like you know we fin of Google so all of them was dropping the rakes you know it's interesting because I think little pop in Quaterana were Crips got nothing to do with GDs like what the hell I think them thing is just I think if they were, I think if them niggas was, was gonna kill like a lobster
Starting point is 02:13:01 that would drop GDK, like, what the hell? We are not. And he said, well, where are you at? He said, yeah, I'm at the studio. And he said, yeah, you know. And so him and Didi went back to talking. Then they said they went to a mountaintop somewhere before. Okay, we won't get back to that.
Starting point is 02:13:23 We got a new tweet by Trapplerost. Yo, they said, oh, here we go, chat. Oh, shit. It's going down. Holy. They said, Jam says, I know he hates me, but I still got love for Smirk, yo. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:13:42 He said, I just don't respect him. Jam claimed he was never offered money for the killing, even though he was present when Dirk told several OTF members, they would be straight. And when someone asks if they could get 500K to a mill for the hit, Oh, oh, when someone asks if you get that for the hit. Now, that's going to be important. Brian Steele has to kill this, Nick, I understand.
Starting point is 02:14:09 Brian Steele got a, I ain't going to lie. He might have to jump over the shit. Yo, Jam is left an opening. Jam is admitting. He was never directly offered money. Now, granted, what he's saying is that there was a money offer or a statement that seemed to infer that there was money. being offered and other individuals jumped in and say damn like half a mill a mill they have
Starting point is 02:14:36 to basically debunk that have been like ain't it because you broke you thought anything had anything you did for the gang or anything you did you was going to get paid isn't that the truth so brian still he's going to be a master with this i i can't wait said jem had never made a song before murder and pop he said he was paid 10 bands for his first song ever Federal Freestyle. Oh, that's why the government claim they got compensation not only in money, but what career opportunities. They put federal freestyle on OTF loyal bros to group album.
Starting point is 02:15:11 By the way, the feds in their superseding indictments, they really do claim that that compilation album was Dirk payment in terms of career opportunities to shooters. So basically, like, the feds, Look at Dirk really fucked up. And again, I know y'all won't clip me, but this is not how I think. It's how the Feds look at Dirk. The Feds look at Dirk as, yo, bro, you ain't believe in these niggas musically at all. You ain't really want to give them cameos.
Starting point is 02:15:40 You ain't want to give them verses. You really didn't want to put them on. But you realize that they all wanted your life. They wanted to be rich and famous like you. And you used the money as a way to control him, whether you was putting a thousand on the books of Jam, like years before when he was broke in jail with nothing to giving his mom a little bit of money. As soon as he got out, you ain't,
Starting point is 02:15:59 put him in the studio when he first got out, you put him in the streets to do a drill. So what were you really paying him for? Now, after you did the drills, then you put him in the studio because it was another way to pay instead of giving money. It was another way to pay. So that's how the fares are describing how Dirk views his guys. Like, instead of like with paying them with cash for either murders or drills or doing some gangster, he would, oh, we got a compilation album and he would just take songs and be like,
Starting point is 02:16:28 yeah y'all could be featured alongside me and y'all could possibly break obviously dirky's going to contend that and be like no they're my friends people sign their friends and people put out music and group albums with their friends nothing had to do with incentive for murder anyway so you got paid 10k for your first song okay now i'm not sure if the the phase are going to pinpoint into that and be like is it normal that you you get paid for these songs Did you have a record contract? We'll see. So, Dirk allegedly finessed all the hitmen.
Starting point is 02:17:03 They thought they was getting half a mill to a mill. Jam got nothing and the two shooters hung around Vani after asking for money. But Vani put Dirk on the FaceTime and say, I got him. They're going to be straight, but they left with none. Chat, this is a story as old as time. Straight drop. He killed Dolf. Him and the other goofy.
Starting point is 02:17:24 They're like, I bet. Cornelius is his name. Nick, your name is Cornelius. You should not even have a gun in your hand, man. You should have like a stethoscope, brother. What are you doing? Cornelius. So anyway, y'all killed off.
Starting point is 02:17:36 Now after you killed off, man, niggas is like, you see, the thing with killers, they start spending the money before they get it. They start spending the money before they pull the trigger, bro. Straight drop. He only gets like 20K or something. Did he even get money? No, I think, no, nigga, he got like less in that, like, 1500. Like, it was some, nothing that he was promised.
Starting point is 02:17:57 Robert Allen with X. Oh, I bet. Yo, we robbed X of 50K. I bet. You're gonna split up the bread. Nigger, they gave that nigga a thousand two. Like, every time we're seeing these situations, we see how niggas are not paid in full.
Starting point is 02:18:12 Niggas are not paid in full. And that's what I'm saying. This is about snitching. It's like, bro, if a nigger will snitch on you. Well, I guess we got to start from here. A niggis is going to think that if you have him take a life risk to go kill somebody and you won't live up to your end of the bargain by paying him, why the fuck should he stay loyal to you to not stench on you?
Starting point is 02:18:34 And that might... There's like a flash float around here. Did you see that flash flood in Nepal? Oh, my God. Condolences to those people. Anyway. Yeah, they got some flash flow when they go crazy, huh? So, chat.
Starting point is 02:18:53 And I could understand that. You put your life on the line. You put your freedom on the line. A nigga tell you he wants somebody killed. You go kill that person. And then the person's finessey. He scams you. He doesn't pay you.
Starting point is 02:19:05 He's giving you the runaround. I got you, man. Nick, I told you'd be good, bro. Just chill. You're hot right now. You hot right now, bro. I got you, though. Nick, I got you, though.
Starting point is 02:19:13 Meanwhile, you're watching them buy India purses bags, Chanel bags, got her on vacation. You watching them do this, then that. The other guy is just getting a new track hog, hellcat. Everybody getting shit with you. You think you're like, damn, this nigga. Nick, I put my life on the line for him. He treated me like I'm an option.
Starting point is 02:19:40 Anyway. So they said, Jam got nothing. Two other shooters was hanging around Vonny asking for money. But Vonny put Durk on face. I'm saying, I got him. They're going to be straight. They left with nothing.
Starting point is 02:19:49 So nobody got paid that time in Cali. Jam said they was going to kill Kondo in the Babe store. But they were scared security would lock the doors and trap them inside after the hit. Damn. The ninks was going to run inside the babe store and kill the dude, bro. Jam said he snitched because he wanted to get it off all his chest because he was weighing on him.
Starting point is 02:20:15 He said he felt Bob was innocent, and Dirk was selfish to send him on the hit with people he ain't know. Did I say he say he ain't know the niggins he went on a hit with, bro? I told you, nigga. Nicky, he knew Keith Jones. Like, I forgot how he knew Keith Jones, but he just got Keith Jones, brother. But, like, he don't know why he's, that's what he's claiming. Obviously, he could be lying, right?
Starting point is 02:20:34 Like, he's trying to get out of jail. So, like, he probably, he's saying whatever to make the government look good. Specifically, he said that Vonny was, Nika, didn't I tell you, niggia, Vani was a goofy? Didn't I say it? Yo, Dirk won't answer the phone. You have a nigger well-reputed killer that a lot of people felt like Dirk was starting to gravitate to niggas with the name. Every gangster from Chicago who got on here.
Starting point is 02:21:00 Have they not said, yo, I ain't going to lie. That nigga jam his name ring bells from the streets to the penitentiary. Dirk is next to all of the niggas with a name. They bring out Jam to L.A. And Jam is taking orders from goofies. Jam can't even get Dirk on the phone. He got a goofy putting a gun in his hand. That's how he's looking at it.
Starting point is 02:21:26 It's like, I imagine you and a gang with Poo Shicey. You know how Poo Shicey give it up. Whatever. Poo Shitesy say, yo, bro, come do this. You show up. And all of a sudden, you know who meets you? at the spot is academics. I give you a gloves.
Starting point is 02:21:41 I said, all right, two for you. Okay, you need a face mask. You want the Nike one or you want the Adidas? I give you a one of those. And then I'm like looking down the receipt of the thing. And I'm like, okay. And you get this here. And then I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 02:21:56 Okay, and here's this gun. Nigger, would you be confident? And you're like, bro, yo, let me talk to Shitey real quick. Um, um, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Just, bro. Jam wasn't feeling it.
Starting point is 02:22:09 He felt like Dirk put the goof troop in charge. Dirk put the goof troop in charge. Vadi bought the shit. He's folding up the receipts in case he need to show Dirk what he spent the credit card with. Yo, Dirk, now I told you, I used the card. Yeah, no, no, I bought exactly what you said. I bought three masks. See, one, two, three.
Starting point is 02:22:32 They didn't have any more than Nike, so I had to go with the underarmor. And then remember the ski mask? Yeah, I bought four, but did this thing save a receipt from a goddamn criminal conspiracy? You know who this, you know who Vani was? This is Vani right here. This is Vani right here, bro. This is Vani right here, bro. Look.
Starting point is 02:23:00 Uh, point of, n, niggins, is you taking notes on a criminal fucking conspiracy? What fuck is you thinking, man? Yeah, that's Vani. They're talking about the plan. He's taking notes. He got notes. Yeah, so Jampi. It's like, yo, he's not answering the phone.
Starting point is 02:23:18 I'm with the goofies. They're talking about let's do it here. I'm like, I could tell these, yo, this is a JV team. They never did nothing. Is you taking notes on a criminal fucking conspiracy? What fuck is you thinking, man? Chat, it's a fact. Somebody said that's how you could tell Vonny's dad was telling the truth.
Starting point is 02:23:40 I ain't going to lie, man. You might be motherfucking right with that one, brother. You might be motherfucking right with that one. He said Vonny was a goofy. That's one of the reasons he snitch. Now, this is from his words directly. He said he snitch. I don't believe him what is going to get his shit off his chest.
Starting point is 02:24:14 He just wanted, he signed an immunity deal or like the shit where like everything he pleads guilty to now, cannot come back. That's why. Now he said, Bob was innocent. don't think he feel bad for Pop at all. This nigga is a murderer. We could go look at, by the way, here's, I think they found the first murder he ever did. The first murder he ever did? It's on my page.
Starting point is 02:24:40 It's on our stream page. You feel me? This is the guy he shot in the head. There's an article about it. This guy right here. Remember, apparently they were doing some money laundering shit. This guy was money laundering for someone in the BDs. And apparently when someone's pops in the BDs who was using him for money laundering,
Starting point is 02:24:57 he stole some bread and that's why the son of the nigger who got finessed by him called Jem and say, yo, let's go rob this nigga. They go rob him. This dude starts tussling. He starts tussling with the son
Starting point is 02:25:12 of the nigga he finessed. He tells Jamb, nigger, shoot him. Jam pulls it out. Bam! shoots him. Now he's bleeding. Ah!
Starting point is 02:25:20 Ah! Then he looks at Jem and says, yo, this nigga knows me. He knows my, and he's seen my face. Nick, I'm gonna go to Jinnah. you got to kill him. And Jam put the gun to his head and ends him.
Starting point is 02:25:31 So Jam is a ruthless individual. Let's not, I'm not believing Jam for a second on some, he felt bad because, because Bob was innocent. I'm not believing that. I'm not believing that. Now, what I do believe is this part. He do believe Dirk is selfish.
Starting point is 02:25:47 I'm telling you, that niggas is watching Dirk live a billion dollar lifestyle. And these niggas is probably thinking like, your bro, like, Nick, I'm killing niggas for you, bro. Nick, I'm killing niggas for you. Trust me. Also, when the niggas envious, and I ain't on line.
Starting point is 02:26:01 Jam was probably envious too. When a nigga's envious, he watched every aspect of your life. Nigger, I know certain people, let me tell this. I'll be careful of everybody in my life. Let me tell this. Let me tell you. There's certain people in my life. They'll be like,
Starting point is 02:26:17 man, yo, you know I needed this money right here. And I just seen you just like, I just seen you cash out on another. car? I'm like, what the fuck that got to do with you? It's like, they're looking at everything. I could imagine he bought India some shit and jam and then was probably looking at like, man, you could buy your bitch shit, but you can't.
Starting point is 02:26:36 Niggins like that, they're going to turn on you. Facts. They're watching your shit too heavy. They're watching your shit too heavy. You get what I'm saying? So he's probably watching dirt. Like, man, I'm, man, I just put a nigga down for you. Damn, everything Dirk bought. Dirk go to the jewelry store.
Starting point is 02:26:55 Be like, damn, nixon. Like, nigga, you could have not got that last tennis bracelet. You could have gave me that fucking 40K right there. Nick, I need that right now. A nigga like that is going to tell. Because you know what it is? He's not looking at his situation. He's pretty much pocketwatching, but pocketwatching a different level.
Starting point is 02:27:15 Trust me. So anyway, listen. So he says, Bonnie was a goofy, goofy. And he ain't want to be involved with him. He was mad to be involved with him. telling you, when that nigga Jam got to L.A. Remember Booney Mo Call Jam.
Starting point is 02:27:40 Yo, Jam. Yo, Smirk needs you out there. Yo, Smirk needs you in L.A. These niggas would drop. Bro, that nigga probably didn't wash his ass. That nigga ran to Chicago O'Hare Airport. Ran there, nigga. Nigga, they say he was on the way
Starting point is 02:27:57 there when he got the flight. Got the ticket. He's telling his other man's, yo, you need to get to the airport. Send me a shit. The niggins said, I don't got my ID. Damn. I need one more. He's texting everybody. Yo, come to L.A.
Starting point is 02:28:11 With me. The niggas show up to TSA. No bags. Draw still stinking. Holes in the socks. Bad breath. All type of shit wrong with this nigger. He gets to L.A.
Starting point is 02:28:30 And this is where he thought Smirk was going. Smirk ain't talking to him. He'd get there and basically smirk put him with the goofy. Booney Mollie. tell him, yo, just get at Vonny when you get there. He got y'all, niggas. So what's up? We're getting up with smirk? Yo, Vani got y'all niggas.
Starting point is 02:28:52 You could tell this nigger, this nigger's jammer's a little bit stupid because until Dutti Lowe get on the phone later to say, nigger, I don't know if you think you hear to record music. Nigel, you're here for a murder, nigga. He literally says it was Dutie Lowe who broke the news to him.
Starting point is 02:29:09 Nigah, you're here to kill something. Maybe he thought he was going on vacation. Maybe he's going to go sightseeing. Walt the Hollywood Stars or some shit like that. But he ain't talked to Dirk since he got there. First of all, you know how he knew what's goofy. They say, yo, you can't fly into LAX. You got to fly to San Diego.
Starting point is 02:29:32 It's about an hour, hour and a half away depending on traffic chat. The nigger gets there. They're trying to be low-key. Nigger, they get a party bus sprinter, nigger, loud. Party bus sprinter. A party. You know who got it? Vani the Goofy.
Starting point is 02:29:51 Vani the Goofy was spending Dirk's money on some fly shit. They're by to go Stalk Juan that'll kill him. Higo gets a BMW from the exotic rental car company. While they got a stolen car. That's how you do it, the stolen car. Not when the Goofy's around. You know, Big Ack is going, you know, I'm going to get the Mayback. So I'm over here in the Mayback, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:30:16 Fine. We all getting caught. We all get caught. That's why we also got to blame Didi. Because Didi doesn't let Vani put too much input on this shit, and this shit was goofy from the get-go. Remember, Dedy's involved in this, too. So, according to Jam, he snitched because Vani was a goofy,
Starting point is 02:30:40 and he was upset that he even had to be involved with him. It said, Jam wrote a handwritten note to the FBI saying, I know about murders. I don't want to talk on camera But I know a lot Nigger Holy shit Pumbo God
Starting point is 02:30:55 Man I found out Tell my knees When the law came Yo I know y'all give that nigga Trenches News a little flack But We gotta
Starting point is 02:31:10 We gotta think about this Dirt never paid the guys Dirk get on an interview with me Saying yo yo 6-9 I box you Your chat Let me tell you That burns, niggas souls. Yo, 6'9, I box you for a 50 million.
Starting point is 02:31:26 I box you for 50 million, nigga, my money. You're on the same interview saying, you know this niggas can't say Slav Favon no more, right? Maybe something in the water. Then two seconds later, man, tell 6'9, I put a 50 million of my own money. You know the shooters who done slid? You know, they're probably watching that interview like,
Starting point is 02:31:43 you got 50 million to fight a rat, but you don't got 50,000 to pay the guys? Oh, man. What's the FBI number, bro? What's the FBI number, bro? Send me the FBI number, bro. Chat, we got to keep it a bean. We got to keep it a bean.
Starting point is 02:32:05 I tell you, niggins like that going to be watching you. Niggins, especially when the niggins thinking, damn, he told me he was going to take care of me. You ain't take care of me yet. Now I'm seeing you on an interview, nigga. You're on an interview talking about you put a 50 million of your own money. You kind of talking like you're having it. But you can even even.
Starting point is 02:32:24 and throw me the 50 pack. You know, nigga, I am. Nick, I'm living with my bitch. And that's why I'm saying Trenches News also got this part. I think he kind of right with this. Now, obviously, I'm not co-signing no additional murder. If Dirk was going to finesse these niggas, he should have just killed them.
Starting point is 02:32:45 You should have got some other niggas to kill them. Let's be honest. If you're going to tell niggas, yo, I got a million for y'all. Because you know what I'd be thinking, if you don't feed your wolves, your wolves eventually going to attack you. Niggian, they're not about to just sit here while you just,
Starting point is 02:32:58 like, make billions in there, like, You this thing will really just owe me like 80 bands. Yo, I see them in the club with Meek Mill. They just spend $300K. Trust me, your shooters is definitely watching every time you spend money after that. Say, if you're going to finesse them, if you're going to finesse him, you might as well just try to wipe them out. So Jam told, said they were, uh, there were,
Starting point is 02:33:19 Jam said they were going to go kill Quarano in the Babe Store, but they were too scared security with a lot of the door. Jam stintz, okay, we read that already. He wrote the letter or the note to FBI. Man, I know about murders, niggum. I don't want to talk on camera, though. Okay, by the way, this is going to help. This is going to help the prosecution.
Starting point is 02:33:38 Remember, Brian Seale keeps saying, why isn't this recorded? Why isn't this recorded? Why isn't this recorded? FBI is going to be like, it's not recorded because he wanted to talk on, on, he wanted to talk off camera. Now, here's the thing.
Starting point is 02:33:55 If there's no, unless there's a signed statement, you're not going to see transcripts from the off-camera conversations. They're actually not going to use it. They're going to use the recorded ones. But in Brian Steeler, anyone's saying, damn, why did y'all meet with him so many times not recorded? Now they have a reason to say, in his note to meet with us, he literally said he doesn't want to be on camera. Okay? So Jam says Lil' Pop, hit was Dirk's selfish bullshit.
Starting point is 02:34:27 He said, I didn't know Vaughn. I was mad at Dirk from putting him in that situation. I ain't going on line, chat. He is frying right now. Yo, man, he's frying right now. He sound no Vaughn like that. He's caught. I'm going to be, this is impactful testament.
Starting point is 02:34:51 You know why? The government already put it in the air. Dirk was consumed by hatred, by the need for revenge. Now you have the hit man saying, yeah, I'm a killer. I've done shit. But even I wanted to call this shit off. I ain't had no motive to do it. But he put me up, but really I got tight because he put me with a JV team.
Starting point is 02:35:18 He got a goofy handing me gloves and masking guns and shit like that. I didn't like it. And I ain't get paid either. It's kind of, you know, as much as we might think he's lying to save his own ass, which he is. Or not lying, but he's trying to save his own ass. The reasons he's given is becoming valid reasons. I call it the 6-9 reasons. You know how 6-9 is like I snitch and obviously once you snitch,
Starting point is 02:35:47 they're going to have you up there and say, bro, you don't got no fucking reason to snitch. You know what 6-9 is going to say? Well, they fuck my bitch. Okay. Well, they kidnap me. All right. I kind of get it.
Starting point is 02:36:03 Nigger, you ain't hit the wiretap? They said it was going to shoot me. All right, bet. That makes sense. By the time he says those three reasons, if you're on the jury, you're going to be like, okay, it makes sense. Jam is saying the reasons. Dirk lied to me, didn't pay me. Dirk put me in a situation to ride for his selfish beef.
Starting point is 02:36:26 It wasn't some gang shit that we're all in, or at least me because I was locked up. And he put me with a bunch of people I ain't know. It's crazy, chat. This shit, crazy, huh? Okay, we got a little update. Let's hear it. Before morning break Jammy the Bull testified
Starting point is 02:36:56 that he was not offered payment When return from the break he testified money was offered presumably for his part in killing Saviah Robinson And Jamie testified that he was paid to be in a music video For the song Federal Freestyle He was given $10,000. See, that's interesting
Starting point is 02:37:14 How are you getting paid to be in a music video for your own song? Now, I don't know if If I'm Dirk's team, I'm not touching that. The fans should be like, hey, is it customary that if you make a song, you have to get paid to be in the music video of your own song. The fans haven't done that yet, but they could do the, hey, that was a way of trying to initiate payment, right?
Starting point is 02:37:47 You know, obviously, a lot of this is how you interpret it, right? he stated he did not believe he would be a part of the video if he did not participate in the killing of Robinson. Now, this is where Brian Steele got to turn up because there was no ultimatum given to him from what we know. He's never said, Dirk told me, if you don't do this, you're not going to be in the video.
Starting point is 02:38:13 He just felt he wouldn't be in the video. So that might be him. Before court broke for lunch and note what showed that Hester wrote in prison. The note said, I know about murders. I don't want to talk on camera, but I know a lot. Hester testified to feeling guilty for Robinson's death, explaining he had nothing to do with him,
Starting point is 02:38:31 and he didn't know King Von Well. He called Robinson innocent. He also testified he would, listen, this innocent thing, Brian's still got to drop 30 on it. What about the man you killed in race, what about the man you killed in Racine, Wisconsin? You said you killed him in 2010. No, 2013.
Starting point is 02:38:51 No, 2010. You killed him in 2010. You were incarcerated for 12 years. It's now been 16 years. You don't feel any burden of guilt for his death as opposed to Lil' Pop. Why didn't you come forward with that? Why did you wait until 2023 to come forward with that? You killed him in 2010.
Starting point is 02:39:18 You killed Little Pop in 22 and four years later, you say you're overcome with remorse. But you killed a man in 2010. And four years later, you didn't have no remorse. Matter of fact, 10 years later, you had zero remorse. Actually, it wasn't until about 15 years later that you admitted to it, but you admitted to it at part of a deal that the FBI was working out with you. You didn't admit it to his family. You didn't admit it to anyone that, you know,
Starting point is 02:39:55 wasn't in a beneficial place to give you a deal that could absolve you or your crimes. Wasn't he innocent? He was 41 years old. He had a family. You shot him and then executed him. Brian Steele got to go crazy with this. You'll send this to Brian Still. Brian Stee, I need this.
Starting point is 02:40:20 This got to be an exhibit. Throw it up on the screen. All right? Okay. Here we go. Testimony began where it left off on Wednesday. Hester or Jammie described the white, Infinity White BMW, following Quarandor's Black escalator around Los Angeles
Starting point is 02:40:40 including okay we read that he repeated doesn't uh oh did we read this before i think we did yeah he didn't like the plan he did i like the plan uh is setty nash tweeting or nah we should get a video from trap lore in a second right trap lore is working brother i can't have a lie jam the reason everybody in the feds he got caught with a gun and wrote a note well i like what setty nash says but we got to be clear he got caught with a gun and wrote a note. Well, there's a way to look at it. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:41:14 This is a six-nine explanation. You could start it at, oh, he got caught with a gun and wrote the note, and he's the reason about an offense. Or you could be like, well, if I got caught with a gun, had enough money for a lawyer, I wouldn't write a note. I didn't have enough money for a lawyer because I didn't get paid for the fucking murders I did for that nigga. So again, the thing with snitching is that once someone has mentally committed to snitching, the buck gets passed. You see this idea that niggas A real street niggas in perpetuity stops Right
Starting point is 02:41:45 It stops You know they say Two niggas could Two friends could fight or this whatever They'll allow certain things And but when it gets the snitching is a hard line Right But the line moves for everybody
Starting point is 02:41:57 Well you fuck my bitch Time to tell on you You go to jail for life Well You know You try to shoot this person That I'm cool with Knowing that you were trying to shoot
Starting point is 02:42:10 that person they were cool with. So usually the person who's a cooperant draws a line and only sees it from their side rather than just being honest saying, I don't want to go to jail. There's kind of no reason. The only choice in reality is that you pick crime. The moment you pick crime,
Starting point is 02:42:28 there is no more excuses. Okay? Once you pick to be a gang member in crime, in honest, like if we really want to be honest, that's the only choice you get. After that, whatever the person who was telling whatever excuse they give us is just the excuse they want to stand on. But there's always a million excuses.
Starting point is 02:42:45 There is never not an excuse to tell. Yo, he left me for dead in jail. He ain't paid my lawyer fee. He could have paid my bail for me to get out. He didn't slide for my baby mama. He fucked my baby mama. He tried to kid. There's always a million things.
Starting point is 02:43:02 In the streets, there's nothing that's civil. There's nothing that's civil in the streets. So I watch everybody with their excuses. Like, you know, Jam's excuse is going to be, yo, this is why you pay your shooters. This is why you pay your shooters. If Jammer gotten paid, you know what his, the primary reason would be? Yo, I was loyal to Dirk thinking we all in it for the same reason. And Dirk turned into this crash out drunk off power.
Starting point is 02:43:41 in money, he was just ordering random hits. He sent us off. He's selfish. There's always going to be a reason. Dirt stopped being about the guys. He was all about himself. He would tell us to go do shit like damn. Why are you going to tell us to go kill a nigga in L.A.?
Starting point is 02:43:59 Why don't tell us to do it in Savannah? You thought we were crashouts. Brother, there's always a reason. You make the reason up. That's a reality. Somebody in the chat say, yo, I'm definitely not taking no drill order from Lames. Hey, yo, chat.
Starting point is 02:44:24 Yo, Yo, chat. Lil Dirk fly you out to, Lil Dirk fly you out to LA. You're like, what up, blood? What a smirk? You're like, I'm here.
Starting point is 02:44:33 You can't get smirk on the phone, but somebody hits you and be like, yo, the nigga, the nigga gonna be out front at baggage claim with the sprinter. He gonna have everything you need like he gonna tell you what's good. You see the sprinter pop pulling up?
Starting point is 02:44:46 Nigger, it's Trappler Ross that walk out of the sprinter, nigga. The nigga got a notepad, bifocals, he flipping the shit up and down. Nicky, he wearing one of these glasses. If you what I'm saying? He got one of these glasses, flipping it up and down.
Starting point is 02:44:58 He's going to his nose. All right, so we remapped the route that Cuandarando is doing. So we saw him on a scooter last night, and he, like, took him three-mile radius block around the thing. I think we could kill him. Matter of fact, we have a gun for you here. Chat, if you're going on a drill, and this is the coach they give you,
Starting point is 02:45:29 he took notes. all of a sudden he says Oh and you Mr. Mr. Jam Yeah I got it in my notes here You're a size 2x I got you a shirt right here
Starting point is 02:45:41 I got it from Marshalls That's the guy you want to see Before you go on the drill Then you hear him say some goofy shit like this Oh and oh no no Just don't take the tag off the shirt Just tuck it in because I might have to return that one Okay I got the receipt here
Starting point is 02:45:59 You know Durkio won't like it if we're just wasting money Just tuck the tag in It's a goofy Chat, that's exactly What Jams said he rolled into What the fuck Niggins said he about Return to return the shirt
Starting point is 02:46:16 Tugging He got the receipt He's taking notes What the fuck Yo, Vody Yo, Politeness chat We should have been new this chat Dirk
Starting point is 02:46:37 What's it called? Dirk Icebox It's not dark in icebox we gotta do Vaughan an ice box Oh yeah Yeah Yo bro
Starting point is 02:47:04 If you think Jam didn't feel disrespected Jam is older than this nigger Jam is older than this nigga Jam is older than this nigga About like six years Like you know how you go And niggas grow up in the same community Niggas grow up in the same community
Starting point is 02:47:20 They know like You're not even like You're not even in the same classes with these niggas You're not even hanging the same crowd You hang with little mans in them You don't even hang with the active little man's. Nigger, that was me. Yo, you the nigga who wears a big book bag to school.
Starting point is 02:47:35 That's me. I got the big, yo, you know, you high school? You got that, like, because I'm carrying all my books. I got the big book bag. I'm walking to school. That's for show. Yo, the bell ring, nigga, if I'm, well, we live like five minutes from school. Nick, I'm home in seven minutes, nigga.
Starting point is 02:47:54 And the extra two minutes was me going to my locker. Nick, I got nothing going on. I'm just, I'm as square as they come. Nika, that's funny. Nika, that's what he could tell. Like, wait, is this goofy over here passing our guns telling us where it's going down? Oh, hell no. Anyway, here we go.
Starting point is 02:48:18 Is this, all right, here we go. So I'm here outside the courthouse. Not too many free dark fans out here. I don't know. Maybe they was sleeping in today. No free dark fans that I can see. But basically, there was a very crazy update. And what ended up happening was basically.
Starting point is 02:48:33 OTF Jam was back on the stand for the whole first half of the day. He ended up saying some pretty crazy comments, especially at the end. So I'm going to start at the end and work backwards. But they basically asked Jam. They said, why did you choose to cooperate? What was your motivation for this? Why did you turn on Lil Durk? And he basically said, I was mad at Lil Durk for putting me in that situation.
Starting point is 02:48:53 And I'm still mad at him now. He said that Vonny seemed like a goofy to me. He did something that I know I shouldn't have done. And the last time I did something with people that I didn't know, I did 12 years for it. I was doing this. Yo, I think that's one of the reasons he, like, he don't really fuck with Dirk and Dedy in him. Bro, they were, didn't I tell you they put him on a drill with TTE, E, little Ted, bro?
Starting point is 02:49:16 The nigga crying coming out the car. Now they got the goofy Vani, like, like he in charge of the drill. He's the drill captain. How is Varni the drill captain, chat? Yo, Chad, Vani's the drill captain of a drill in L.A. downtown, nigga, it's not even like a drilling like East Bumblefuck Idaho or Ohio or something, nigga. This is L.A. downtown.
Starting point is 02:49:42 Nigget, that's like a fucking rookie telling you how he might do a crime in front of the White House. And you're like, nigga, you've never even caught a spin ticket. Give me to get your brouffer and ass one out of here, nigga. The drill captain is goddamn Vani. For Dirk's selfish reasons, maybe Cous and Dede had a reason to do it. have no relationship with Vaughn i basically didn't know a whole bunch of these people that were sent on the hit he basically said i feel like dirk sent me on selfish bullshit he said i can't forget all the support that dirt gave me especially when i was locked up i can never forget that i still
Starting point is 02:50:20 got love for him um but he says look i know how it looks now but i still got for him blood was there for me i can't forget that and i feel bad for telling but at the same time i still love him but i don't respect him he said that he could be killed for his testimony for cooperating and then he also kind of pointed out a couple of things that really just motivated him that in why in this occasion did he decide to tell he explained there were multiple reasons he said he felt like the hit was done sloppy it was done with people who shouldn't have been there obviously he said that he thought bonny was a goofy and he said there's a big difference between doing something to somebody that you don't like um but he said in this case he felt like little pab ain't have nothing to do with it he
Starting point is 02:50:56 said he felt like an innocent man got killed and it weighed heavily on him he wanted to get it off his chest. He said he didn't think it was guaranteed that he would get caught, but he thought about it. He thought it was hot. He said, why do we go and do this in LA with all them rich people and actors around? Sat, didn't I just say that, bro? Chat, didn't I just say that? I think we're getting into his mindset now. You got the goofy as the drill captain. You got a crash dummy mission. A nigga who tells you, yo, let's catch our op in front of the White House or let's catch him in front of the police station. That's some shit. That's like, that's crash. Like, fuck if we come back. It's one of those where like, this is, it's a torpedo kamikaze shit. Let's go get the
Starting point is 02:51:35 nigger. Fuck it if we get caught. So everything is not going well. Got the goofy as a drill captain in L.A. Nobody knows L.A. is downtown L.A. And he said that was a bad place to do it here. So the prosecutor's actually asked him, they said, look, you testified and you pled guilty if you're rolling the L.A. shooting as well as two other murders. You know, what are you hoping for from this? He said, well, I'm hoping for a reduction in my center. That's important to know. So now, granted, usually with these deals, they want your involvement in any murder you've ever done. We're not sure if he confessed to all the murders, but in his plea deal, and this is how we know,
Starting point is 02:52:23 there are charges that reflect him committing to other murders other than Pobb, and that's why that's why they're lumping everything together that after he snitches, he will get the plea that will resolve all those cases. I'm thinking he probably wants like five to ten years and that'll be that. But a part of the plea, when you're doing these pleas, you either want to tell all the murders
Starting point is 02:52:50 or whatever you're going to confess to, they might throw charges up there or they might hit you with the immunity for. You know, the immunity is a queen for the day. They'll have you write down or say whatever, you've done in your life. And then they're like, okay, you're immune from this. But the fact that some of these are open cases and the fact that there's bodies,
Starting point is 02:53:10 I think they just lump those charges into his charges to make sure those things get resolved on the record. But he made it clear there's been no promises made. He's not getting out. I'm not going to lie to you. Jam having three bodies. He probably shouldn't be out here walking around straight after this. But he basically said he pled guilty with the two other murders.
Starting point is 02:53:29 And, you know, he just basically wanted to get it all off. his chest and he said it was weighing heavily on me what happened to the little pab and he saw an opportunity and he took it so it was some pretty crazy testimony that last part when they kind of broke you know he said it straight out of his mouth he said i still got love for dirk and i can't forget what he did for me but he put me in a bad situation with some goofies it was selfish and i'm not rocking with it so that was pretty crazy but there was a whole lot of other crazy testimony that jam put across and i'm going to tell you all about it in different videos so stay tuned i'll keep you guys updated on everything and yeah it's it's gonna be a crazy day i think he's gonna be up there all day maybe
Starting point is 02:54:05 even into tomorrow yeah yeah definitely in tomorrow i believe definitely in tomorrow here we go so we just got some crazy new information about how it went down when jam got arrested and decided to start cooperating with the fbi so apparently he was arrested in 2023 for something completely unrelated he was pulled over in a car that apparently had a gun in it while he was still on parole from that attempted murder case that he just got out after serving 12 years on and uh he basically said that at that point he decided to talk to the FBI. He wanted to get it off of his chest. The little Pab murder was weighing on him. He felt like Pab was an innocent man and that he'd been sent on a dummy mission with some goofies by Dirk for selfish reasons. And he said he saw an opportunity to get out the situation. What was very interesting is when he got arrested, he basically wrote a handwritten note to the FBI.
Starting point is 02:54:47 So what he claimed is that he said that he was allowed to make a phone call. He said the phone, the official phone wasn't there or it wasn't working. So they said, look, we'll let you make a supervised recorded call on your cell phone. but like that's what we're going to have to do. We'll allow you that. So he made a call and then he told the cops hey, can I have a bit of paper to write down a phone number? They said sure, but he didn't write down a phone number. He wrote down a handwritten note which said this exactly. It just said, I know about murders. I don't want to talk on camera. I know a lot. So he gave that handwritten note to an arresting officer. That basically was then, you know, works its way up the train to the FBI and the prosecutors asked him. They said, why didn't you want to be on camera?
Starting point is 02:55:28 This is going to be a big controversial thing when it comes to Brian Steele. Obviously, he was absolutely clapping back. I believe it was yesterday talking about... That is kind of crazy. Now, damn. The nigga called a gun charge, bro. He called a gun charge, but, bro, he just couldn't take it no more, man. Called a gun charge and gave up bodies.
Starting point is 02:55:52 Holy shit. Why weren't all of these interviews recorded? You spoke to Jam 30, 40 times. You barely recorded any of those interviews. Well, this is kind of a slap in the face to Brian Steele because Jam said specifically, I don't want to be on no camera. And they said, why didn't you want to be on no camera? Now, this is crazy, all right? He said, well, I didn't want to be on camera because a lot of people been getting exposed on their body cams doing embarrassing shit. You know, they'd be getting
Starting point is 02:56:17 exposed on social media for telling on the body cam, snitching, crying, which is obviously a reference to a very infamous Chicago video where, you know, one of the shorties from over there was kind of apparently caught on a case and he was bawling out. Ted, nigger, him and little Ted supposedly did stuff together too. Crying to the cops. And there's been a lot of rumors about whether that case was connected to the Jam case, whether that kid that was crying in the body cam footage might have had a dirty gun that Jam had used in a different murder.
Starting point is 02:56:46 So Jam made direct reference to that. As I would have said in my previous video, Jam made it clear. He said, look, he was mad at Lil Durk for putting him in that situation. Even though Dirk did a lot for him, he basically said he's still mad at him. He put me in a situation with Goofies. He didn't trust Bonnie. He didn't know why he'd been put in that situation with him. and basically that's why he decided to make that decision and speak to the FBI.
Starting point is 02:57:04 Who knows what sort of time he's going to get? I mean, allegedly, not even allegedly, he has admitted to three murders and, you know, allegedly there's more. So he definitely getting some serious years. I can't imagine them just letting him go. But they made it very clear. He's not being offered a deal. They've not promised him no time.
Starting point is 02:57:19 He's not getting out of everything. He basically is leaving it in God's hands and cooperating. And he didn't say I cooperated to get out of time. He said, I felt bad about this. It was weighing on my heart and Pab was an innocent man. He essentially agreed to a deal. The thing with the deal is you don't know what's your end of the deal. The deal is that you cooperate.
Starting point is 02:57:37 The deal is that you're the bitch for the government. The deal is that you plead guilty to all crimes. And by the way, no, there's 100% of the deal. That's going to be what's called a proffer. So the proffer is usually what they also call a queen for a day. When they sit down and depose him, the mere fact that he's bringing up a murder that he's not included in this case, that's the deal. The deal is that in admitting that crime, it could never be prosecuted.
Starting point is 02:58:01 it's double jeopardy because he's already pleading guilty, but I guarantee there's other acts he's admitted on the proffer that they haven't even put into charges, but it'll just kind of look like an immunity. It'll kind of look like an immunity of sorts. So he has a deal. It's just that the prosecutor can't give you a deal of sentencing, right? The deal of sentencing is you'll get a 5K1 letter,
Starting point is 02:58:24 which that's a deal. You do your job and you tell on the niggas you need to tell on. You'll get a 5K1 letter. From there, that's the judge. It's only the judge that could give you time. So we just got some crazy new information about how it went down when Jam got arrested and decided to start cooperating with the FBI. Okay. That's some more videos.
Starting point is 02:58:47 Holy. All the Dirk fans have been saying there's no evidence. No one was ever paid. There's nothing. But it turns out apparently, Dirk might have actually finessed all of the hitman, allegedly, out of any money. So we heard yesterday that there was a conversation in a studio. Now, I don't think Dirk finessed it. You know what I'm starting to think?
Starting point is 02:59:06 I'm gonna keep it a bean with you, bro. Listen, I'm gonna say some shit. Again, I got the free Dirk t-shirt. You know, I love Dirk, but it's not even a Dirk thing. It's just one of them. Your Dirk power over these dirty-ass niggas is that they're fucking broke. Them type of niggas you give breadcrumbs to.
Starting point is 02:59:25 You never give the whole loaf of bread. Remember that. You give breadcrumbs to. You never give them the whole loaf of bread. You know why you give them breadcrums? Because them niggas just go and go to the fucking mall and spend it and blow it, and they'd be right back up onto you willing to do any and everything
Starting point is 02:59:40 to get a little bit more breadcrumbs. He ain't giving none of these dirty ass niggas, no half a million dollars, no million dollars. You think a nigga's going to get a million dollars and still doing... Brof, them niggins not going to move their family out to the rack. Fuck out of here. I think that 10,000? Listen, that's not in the music industry.
Starting point is 02:59:59 You don't get paid to be in music video, bro. He got that 10 bands? That's your payment, gang. I think Dirk was probably on some shit like niggas. I'm gonna throw you little some breadcrumbs through the music and shit like that where I can hide it. But, nigga, that half a million y'all was talking about, first of all, Dirk never agreed to him half a man. Poo Shitesy gave his shoot as $5,000. You think Dirk was giving these dirty niggins like, yo, Dirk is not giving these dirty nigger.
Starting point is 03:00:26 You know a dirty nigger like OTF jam nigger? You think he's giving him a half a million dollars, bro? You know what he was going to do? All right, let's say even give that nigga $100,000. Here's 10 here. I bet we go to Miami. Yo, here's five here. We're about to go to the club.
Starting point is 03:00:42 I bet. Yo, I sent you two, $2,500. Your baby mama complain. Nigger, you won't get that over time, gang. You getting that shit over time. That's why he said, I'm going to, like, you good for life. Like, nigga, I'm not giving you one lump sum of half a minute. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 03:01:01 Nigger, them niggas went and go kill Stefan Mack. Dirk brought a million dollars and put it on the table, nigga, for a million dollars worth the game. They thought it was getting $90,000, bro. they left with $20,000, allegedly. The nigga had a million dollars on the table. He could have easily paid y'all niggas off. Yo, here's that 90, man. Yo, pay you another thing, man.
Starting point is 03:01:28 Get that fuck on out of here, nigga. Get that, nigga, 20. Yo, these shooters are delusional. Ain't nobody giving you a million dollars. You're going to end up looking like the dummy. Look, dirt million dollars worth the game. When you look at this, when you look in this, When you look in this video chat,
Starting point is 03:01:50 you got to look at a podcast. Let me play a podcast. When you play this podcast chat, all these things and shi-stead behind them, half of these dirty niggas, bro, these things don't got nothing but the link in their pocket,
Starting point is 03:02:05 bro, no disrespect to them, bro, don't try to kill me. Dirk not here anymore. Please don't do it. Nigger, I ain't going to lie to you. And again, I got my free Dirk t-shirt. So this is my shield. And I just paid $1,000 for free Dirk T-shirts
Starting point is 03:02:20 for the niggas out. side of the courtroom. I got you out. But I gotta be honest. The difference with Dirk and Von, Vaughn would have passed this bitch out to every nigga in here. I ain't gonna lie to you. That's the difference with Dirk and Vaughn. You know, that nigga, Dirk brought a million, let them all look at it and get them, nigga, and get them, 20 bands and said, Nick, it's time to get a point out of here, nigga, like, yo, yo, it's time to get a point out of here. Like, yo, you know, India. It's time to get up one out of here. It's go. It's time to go, nigga.
Starting point is 03:02:51 Niggin, that's why, yo, everybody keep blaming. Everybody keep blaming King Vaughn. But, nigga, King Vaughn was a shooter who lucked up and got rich, nigga. He's still moving like a shooter. That's why he just handing money out. Like, King Von was the exact opposite. The nigga brought his money to the hood. Most niggas get the money and leave the hood.
Starting point is 03:03:20 Like, put it like this. Yo, Dirk brought the million dollars to the hood, nigga. And gave him 20 bands, bro. I'm out of here, man. I'm going to catch you niggas later. Yo, I'm going to catch you niggas at the show, bro. I'm out of there, man. I'm out of here.
Starting point is 03:03:34 Yo, Y, Vaughn would have had a video where he's, yo, he's icing niggas out, paying for everything for everybody. And to a certain extent, I'm going to keep it a bean. That's why I think that when niggas, I'm not saying Dirk was imitating Vaughn. If you won't go down that type of route of wanting to kill us with you, you got to be on some Vaughn's shit. It just is what it is.
Starting point is 03:04:12 You know what I'm thinking is looking at that million dollars, bro? Million dollars is here. Chilling, nigga. Podcasts and, yo, security. Come get this money real quick. You put it back in the brink truck. All right, yo, I'm going to catch out of niggas later. Yo, let's take a picture.
Starting point is 03:04:27 Let's take that Taytown picture real quick. Yo, you'll get the money off the table, nigga. Like, the fuck. Let's go. All right. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Where Dirk basically said to...
Starting point is 03:04:39 Yo, I just want to say this one last thing. I know, you know, some people are not going to like... If you are a... potential murderer and you think somebody going to pay you half a million, man? You are delusional. You know what I was thinking? Nick, Dirk probably looking at it.
Starting point is 03:05:03 Nigg, I'm gonna back you just like I backed Vaughn, nigga. That's your payoff, nigga, a career. But give you half a million dollars cash, you must be smoking crack. A bunch of alleged OTF members like, look, anybody that kills Cuando or Lil Tib. And you know why the reason why you don't get him a half a million chat, my bad, I know I'm ranting a little bit.
Starting point is 03:05:22 The reason is, why you don't give him half a million is for the exact reason of what happened with um um even in the Gucci situation right niggins start flexing on line with the jury they took from Gucci imagine the shys yet gave these niggins a hundred k a piece nigga that would have been money phones out the ass money phones i'm sleeping on the money my mind's on the money money on my mind oh can't fit no more in my pockets got money on that head brought these niggas his goofs if if if if if little dirk had gave these niggas 500kk trust me nigger you would have seen that on the grant these things would have been
Starting point is 03:06:06 acting like they're Elon musk nigger you know how niggas are bro niggas flexed baby mama's rent money nigger what do you think they're going to do with half a million dollars after they just kill somebody nigger they would have just alerted the feds how the hell this nigger is flexing 500k he He's never had a job. You're going to be straight. And somebody said, are we talking like half a ticket or a million? And Dirk just said, hey, you're going to be straight.
Starting point is 03:06:32 You ain't going to have to worry about nothing. So basically, apparently all these hitters that got involved in this hit went and did their thing. It sounds like nobody ever got paid. OTF Jam said he never got paid anything by Dirk, even though he was definitely expecting something. As far as the murder, he says he was never paid anything. But what is interesting is that he said, right? Because Brian Steele was licking his lips thinking, oh, he didn't get paid. This is going to be lit.
Starting point is 03:06:53 But then the feds basically said, but you were expecting something. right because that conversation in the studio people talking about mail tickets and duck saying you ain't going to have to worry about nothing he was like yeah and then they said jam basically said look i was never a rapper i never dropped a verse of my life and then within a few months of the murder i was recording my first song the federal freestyle i got paid 10k for that and it was on the o'tef loyal bro's album okay i think it was loyal bros too um obviously i've said before that this album is like the ultimate self snitching album it's basically got back-to-back confessions boony moe got a song on there called i know they know that we did it all right so that's what was going on
Starting point is 03:07:25 got his 10k, but apparently everyone was getting finessed. Apparently, two of the other shooters that were there, they were basically on Vonny's ass talking about when we're going to get paid at the in and out. And apparently, Vonie gave him the slip. He basically put him on the phone with Dirk and said, basically they was asking, yo, Voni, are you going to straighten out the money? They got Dirk on a FaceTime and he said, I got him.
Starting point is 03:07:43 They're going to be straight. And then they left. So I don't know if Dirk ever paid. See, that's another thing, too. Imagine how, yo, hey, hey, listen, chat. You ever felt finessed by a goofy? So the two shooters, they stay around. They keep hitting Vani because now Dirk definitely don't want to talk to them, right?
Starting point is 03:08:01 Dirk is like playing the silent game. Don't call my phone, nigga. Do not call my phone. You just murder somebody. Don't call my phone. So now you got to talk to the goofy. Chet, when you feel finesse by a goofy, it hurts 20 times more. Vani keeps telling him, nah, man, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 03:08:19 We got you. We got you. Bro, trust, trust. It's hot right now. He got you, nigga. Like, he got you. Listen, I haven't even been around smirk like that. Chill.
Starting point is 03:08:25 Like, he got you, nigga. Yo, Vani was good with this Yo, trust me, he's going to start it out. Then, you know, the ultimate one. I bet. I'm going to call him right now. Look, he's going to tell you. Yo, smirk, nigga, I'm with the killer right here.
Starting point is 03:08:36 Like, yo, he just want to know what's popping, whatever, whatever. You know what Dirk told that, nigga? Nah, tell me good. Yo, I got him. That made the killer feel a little bit better. All right, better. Okay, cool. All right.
Starting point is 03:08:47 Now he get all vani's ass. Eventually he don't get paid at all. He started thinking, man, I let this nigga Vani spin me like a gig, nigga. The fuck? You got finesse by a goofy. Anything after that, it sounds like Dirk might have inferred that people was going to get half a million to a million dollars for killing Kwondo. And then basically he just didn't give nobody nothing afterwards.
Starting point is 03:09:07 Maybe you thought that was going to be slick. And like, oh, if I promise hitmen something and don't pay them, then they're going to be able to get me. I'm not sure that's really going to fly. But I'm sure if anybody is going to make that point well, it's going to be Brian Steele. But that was pretty interesting. I'm not going to lie. Jam getting 10K to appear on that. project definitely was interesting. I thought they were going to play the federal freestyle.
Starting point is 03:09:29 They didn't play it. They just showed it. They showed the cover art for loyal bros two. And I ain't going to lie, the loyal Bros 2 cover art was looking sus too. It's just five hooded masked individuals. And you think, wait a minute, isn't that exactly what was sent to go and kill Lil Pab? So that wasn't really a great look either. I'm not sure if too many people picked up on that. But yeah, you know, this whole thing of the hit men being paid. And obviously it wasn't mentioned, but even there was a there was a lyric that was shown earlier. You know, Brian still lied and said it was Kondo when it wasn't. It was another. Van a rapper, but that song where they said, oh, shout out Lil Tim, I mean King Tim.
Starting point is 03:09:59 It wasn't Cuando. Brian was wrong. But what they didn't draw attention to is elsewhere. He basically said, I heard there's a meal ticket. And obviously the rumor was it was going around pretty much within weeks of Von's death that there was a million dollar bounty on Cuando's head. So arguably, that's been proven to be true. But not many people have pointed that out yet.
Starting point is 03:10:14 But anyway, that's my opinion. I'll be back with some more updates to you guys soon. The funny thing about these niggas being hitman for hire, they don't realize 80% of the time the hitman don't get paid. This is why there's no successful Yelp reviews on hitman. Okay? You're a fucking hitman. Okay?
Starting point is 03:10:34 Here's rule of thumb. If we think the police on to you, nigger, you ain't get no transaction from my bank account to yours. You ain't get no meeting. Nigger, you better be able to wait maybe 24 months before you could collect. Secondly, nigger, you don't got to get paid if you're not alive. There's a lot of reasons why the hitman
Starting point is 03:11:02 I've never seen the hitman like yeah I got paid in full Yeah I got the front end in the back end yeah I got the nah nigger Half of this is the reason why the nigger is paying you It's because he don't want to get caught So after you do the crime he's kind of looking at it like Is this dumb stupid nigger who agreed to do a murder for money? Is he going to get caught Now if he gets caught
Starting point is 03:11:29 I can't have no association with this bitch-ass nigga. He got to go down for my crime. That's how it goes. You know, niggas hire a hitman for the hitman to basically go to jail for him. So that's why the... Dirk wasn't focused on the pavement. He was focusing on not talking to y'all ass in case he got charged with your stupid ass. Yo, yo, nigga, don't put me no fucking three-over with that nigga.
Starting point is 03:11:57 Call me on a separate phone and then put both faces. times together, nigga. I'll talk to the other phone. Why this nigga Jam call me? Yo, Boneymore. Call that nigga, stop calling me, man. Yo, could I talk to Smirk? We're going to pull up on Smirk? We're going to hit the studio? Studio. Man, holly at Vani, man. So a lot of the Dirk fans have been saying there's no evidence. No one was there. There we go.
Starting point is 03:12:24 Oh my gosh. So I just heard something crazy in the courthouse about Dirk. So Jam, he's on the stand. He's going crazy up there. When Dirk allegedly was on FaceTime with him before the hit, Dirk told Jam, hey, go crazy. Well, I guess he wasn't expecting him to go this crazy, but allegedly, Jam was pissed off about what was going on, you know, with the hit. He felt like Pab was an innocent man. He felt like he had been sent on a dummy crash out mission. He didn't know Von like that. He wasn't part of the beef. He was frustrated and he felt, you know, low-key pissed off with Dirk that he had sent him on the hit. He actually allegedly FaceTime Dirk to confront him about this. And he said that Dirk answered and he was at his crib with
Starting point is 03:13:02 OTFC3, right? And he said, I asked blood. He said, I said to Dirk, like, out of a million people you could have sent on this mission, he said, I just did 12 years. Why do you have to send me on that dummy mission with a bunch of people I didn't know? And apparently, Dirk cut jam off. He didn't even let him finish. And apparently, Dirk just responded with...
Starting point is 03:13:19 Man, you're on some police shit. That's a... That's a street-nigger favorite way of dodging accountability. Man, you on some police shit right now, man, you want some police shit. What you... That's a legit question. Why did you send me on a dummy mission with a bunch of... with the JV team to go murder someone in one of the most known cities in the hottest area
Starting point is 03:13:37 on the planet. Why would you send me and let, bro, you're on some police shit right now. I don't know what you told me. You on some police shit. Click. With a smile, he said, I love you, Jam. He said y'all didn't hit Kwondo, but you hit Pab. Pab counts.
Starting point is 03:13:50 He was on the internet saying he was smoking on Vonn. And he can't say that no more. And he was just smiling. He said Pab had been disrespectful about Vonn's death and that basically it counts. apparently what he said, and Dirk was smiling at him on FaceTime while that was going on. And what's crazy is Pab later said, the reason why he told is because he felt like this whole thing was weighing on his conscience. They killed an innocent man. Pab ain't have nothing to do with nothing, but Lil Dirk allegedly didn't see it that way. Now look, if you've seen the long four-hour
Starting point is 03:14:16 documentary I did probably like two, three years ago now, I've known about this case for a very long time. I did a documentary called Demon Slayers all about King Von and Lil Tim and all of the things that have been going down in Savannah, Georgia before this happened. If you've seen that, you'll know that no disrespect to Lil Pab or his family, but, you know, you know, He was on a clubhouse call with OTF members dissing them. He put up a few tweets that were kind of making fun of King Vaugh. Oh, y'all remember this? What the fuck?
Starting point is 03:14:42 What's happening? A little pop. Yeah, little pop was on Clubhouse with some... Here we go. And he was trolling OTF a bit. Man, you always telling about somebody your motherfucking boy. That my man. He ain't J-O-G so he and your motherfucking boy.
Starting point is 03:15:06 No, that's my man. Okay, so they got my man. Varney up there. You know, Varney's OTF. He's on the OTF side. Quar, I thought you just said a nigga in NBA 16. Man, cause. So they trolling, they trolling OTF by letting Varney come up. And basically,
Starting point is 03:15:27 you know, Pop is like, man, who the fuck is this nigga? And he's like, I thought if it's not these niggas, it's not your nigger. He's like, man, let him up here, man. Yeah, let's play a game. Who's that, who's that, Sean? Sing it. I want to tell him where to buy.
Starting point is 03:15:42 I'm gonna play me What's the word? What's the word? All right, Varnie's hard speaking now. And I agree. My mic trippers. These businesses are annoying. He says what's the word six-o?
Starting point is 03:16:09 So, you know, apparently Kwondo was a six-o. 60th Crip. I'd just be cooling huts, so you know, it's going on. It'll be laid back cooling. Okay. We're going to link real soon, though.
Starting point is 03:16:27 For sure. Now, this happened a few times where, like, you would see two people, they happen in Jacksonville a lot on Clubhouse, where Jacksonville rival rappers happened with Fulio's niggas, and, um,
Starting point is 03:16:43 what's the name, niggas? Young and Ace, niggas. They would be on there just arguing, though. on this shit because ain't nothing to do the mall clothes niggas done being on fucking clubhouse free to do we got to burn the gang hey that niggins to be in to you up that niggil love burn you got to listen to me mom now wow what you said Bob what a car yeah I do I got shot at my man
Starting point is 03:17:16 hey hey you did you got what chat him on the man he don't even need to down you don't even in a bill club i was talking reckless he already got this lesson mad chamber no i see that was pop that's pop trolling varney front the message down look like a niggas son your ass one back no i just sent him i just sent him out i'm signed though i wish that nigga ain't miss your mouth yeah he shouldn't that's what cost that niggas shit fuck no
Starting point is 03:17:54 Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, what thing by that's, though, we don't do no missing. Oh, shit. I ain't going to lie, man. Dirk must have heard this shit. You had Kwondo in here. One thing about us, we don't do no missing. Nicky, this was 2021.
Starting point is 03:18:11 Starting from here? OTF doesn't send a hundred shots at Cuando after this fucking club out shit, bro. I can go cap with you, bro. Hey, shit, boy. We don't. shit, fuck done. Hey, you look like shit.
Starting point is 03:18:27 Who me? No, your sad kid. Oh, actually, never mind. This is after they shot up that, they shot up his show. Damn, why was Quando talking like that? This is after they shot up the gas station where his show was at.
Starting point is 03:18:42 I said, I am the shit, boy. You know what? They shot up Blackshear and this was December 6, 2021. They shot up Blackshear. Georgia in May 3rd. So a couple months before, niggia, they were sending shots at
Starting point is 03:18:59 and Kwanda couldn't do no shows. Hey. Hey, love, Bernie. What's the word, 6-0? Shit, I'm about to go to my partner house and after that. I'm going to go to my other partner house after that. I'm going to call my other partner and then my other partner and shit like that.
Starting point is 03:19:19 You know, all this can still pick up the phone. You could. You know how that go. Oh, he trolling Vaughn right there. I know how a lot of shit go. Anybody else getting crazy. Hey, don't bring your nigga. Hey, hey, don't bring some Russian Korean backwood, my. You need to wash your creams, hood.
Starting point is 03:19:38 Somebody just rolled me like your friend, though. Hey, I just roll me up. My bang on. These bids just don't want that. Yeah, it's the same song. And that's the fact that the niggas mad because the main man. Man go.
Starting point is 03:19:52 And that's a fat you knickers mad because. they mays gone. I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna be honest with you. I think we realized that Dirk was giving so much belt that we feel bad for Little Pah, but Little Pah was talking like he was like that. Like, I hate to say it.
Starting point is 03:20:10 Nah, they was trolling. Yo, Dirk looked so much like the demon now. Like, he looks so much like he's a bully, this and third, because of course he got all the charges in court. But, nigger, they was talking hot to them, niggas, like, yo, we got your man's, your man's is dead
Starting point is 03:20:24 aha I uh this bitch spray this bitch I had no aim on I read the I'm the upper purple baby smoked like Zaza
Starting point is 03:20:40 God Damn love Bernie I can't stop Duran Ha ha ha Oh shit Right Oh shit
Starting point is 03:20:49 Now we gotta be We gotta be honest though You know what came from that Nigger dirt Applies so much belt That flags got dropped Man I ain't gonna lie There was a lot of laughing
Starting point is 03:20:59 on that clubhouse still. There was a lot of laughing on that clubhouse. I forgot that Quando was trolling because once Quando got on this shit like, man, big bro, I'm dropping my flag, big bro. I forgot that he was kind of with the bullshit too. Y'all remember
Starting point is 03:21:17 this? This was when like he couldn't do shows. Like he was popping it. Look. Look. Showed, y'all. Hey, y'all boys come. Cancel the show, dog. Hey, y'all boys come right here. Man, no bitch I didn't even stop post so we could do a show.
Starting point is 03:21:30 Fuck a bitch out. That whole ass, Holy shit, Cud. For real, Nick, we need to fucking no smoke. That shit got me blow,
Starting point is 03:21:45 cause. Oh, crap, cut. Now, I ain't gonna lie, man. All I'm gonna say is that
Starting point is 03:21:52 I think we look at Dirk in a different league at this point. Man, I think we thought Dirk was, like, doing some bullshit.
Starting point is 03:22:00 I think we thought Dirk was just doing some bullshit. That niggins derrick on timing. Oh shit, though. Man, I'm the moron around this motherfucker, nigga. Hey. Look at you. Look at you sounded like the missed temptation.
Starting point is 03:22:18 Yeah. What I'm telling me, boy. Boy, this is the biggest mob in America, boy. Everybody. That's crazy. Anyway. And he was standing on business with the Roland 60s in Savannah, Georgia. He had his own RICO case that he was going to be facing.
Starting point is 03:22:37 And if Pab was still alive, he might have been facing these RICO charges to do with a car theft ring. That's no disrespect. That's not to say that he deserved it. He wasn't there when Vong got killed. And this didn't sit right with Jam. Apparently, basically, Jam kind of thought, ah, like, this isn't what I called about. He was surprised that Dirk was talking so hot on that phone. He said, I called to ask why he put me in a situation with goofy dudes that I didn't know.
Starting point is 03:22:58 And then he just starts talking about, yeah, I love you. Like, you didn't hit Kondo, you hit Pab. It counts. He was on the internet saying. Yeah, that's another thing too. apparently Dirk, Dirk start berating these niggas a bit like, yo, man, y'all, y'all, stop calling my phone on some bullshit.
Starting point is 03:23:14 Y'all ain't even hit the nigga I wanted, nigga. Didn't he have a song? He said, I want the one that I paid for, nigga. That's like, like Dirk started popping it at his guys. Yeah. What song was that again, chat? What's the song? Was it Rumors?
Starting point is 03:23:41 Yes, Rumors, yeah. Dirk Rumors, Lyrics. No, it's not. this song the fuck is it room is it rumors it is rumors yeah play blah blah yeah wait why can i find it oh no it's the one with Gucci man my bad dirk Gucci rumors yeah dirt gucci rumors yeah derk Gucci rumors or Gucci rumors featuring dirt them niggis get on your ass let's see them niggas get on y'all ass y'all play with me like i ain't worse trying to gossip up to these blogs like y'all my name first. He a junkie. He ain't shot his gun yet. He blame him perks.
Starting point is 03:24:36 Shot a video and had a shootout in the same shirt. What you know about popping out and they're trying to hit their face first. They like smirk your ass be tripping better put your case first. Choking who? Now you're talking about Riesie now. I heard them rumors, nigga, better play slow. I don't want the nigga who you caught. Nick, I want the one that I paid for. So yeah, Dirk was popping it. Nick the fuck. Dirk was popping. Remember, they shot at Kondo, well, actually, well, I'm going to be honest, though. That was, that was before Pop died, though. That was before Pop died.
Starting point is 03:25:08 But this was his demeanor, though. You know, so again, I don't want to make, I don't want to confuse timelines. Because it said the, it said the release date of the song was January, 22. Pop being died until like August. Pop died in like August. Feel me? 2022. But he dropped this song and you heard what he was saying.
Starting point is 03:25:26 You know, Nick, I don't want the one you caught. Nick, I want the one I paid for. So you can imagine jam. I'm calling him like, yo, bro, why you send me on this hit with these brewfers, nigger? Like, what's up? You know, first of all, Dirk is probably like, yo, this, you know, this killer just called me on this hot-ass phone. Yo, I love you, brother. I love you, man.
Starting point is 03:25:44 I'm going to talk to you later. Click. And he spoke. So he was just like, what the hell that I didn't understand? He said, I wasn't close enough to Flokka to be doing that with him. He sent me out there with goofies that I didn't know. He said, I did. Flaka is the other dude.
Starting point is 03:25:58 So we got, um. wasn't feeling it. He said that um he basically kind of just went along with it. He said, yeah, he agreed with what Dirk said about Pab and got off the phone. And that was it. And he said, I didn't get no payment for this. I just thought, what the hell? Like this is just nonsense. So yeah, I think Lil Dirk was obviously happy about what went down. But the way Pab saw it, he'd be been wrong. So that's all the saying. Remember I say he didn't really know these niggas? So when he's saying, remember he's trying to bring Malcolm or whatever that nigga name is. So Jam was supposed to bring a nigga with him. He tried to bring like a nigga that was his cousin. The niggins say he
Starting point is 03:26:34 don't got no ID. So they told him, nigga, bring somebody. They're like, yo, bring with a bring somebody from around the way. He bring Keith Jones. That's flaka. By the way, flaka is snitching, nigga. Like flaka snitching too. But what, I guess this is what jam is saying. Nick, if y'all told me I'm going to, I'm coming to Beverly Hills to go murder somebody. I'm not bringing this guy. I'm thinking we're just going. to LA, we mob it and like, I don't think you're calling me for a murder. He claims, even though you can say he's probably lying, he claims he only knows that he's there to kill somebody when Dutelo tells him when he's already in L.A. And I guess this goes to his point of saying, I wouldn't
Starting point is 03:27:14 have brought Flaka. And now Flaka is a government windows too. Brooped into killing an innocent man. And obviously he didn't even know he was there to kill Kondo until he arrived in California. So he said that he no longer respects Dirk. Oh my gosh. So I just Okay, okay, okay. We got one more update, then we're going to say that. All right, so I just see Kanye for the first time. I just see Yeh in the courthouse, okay? And basically, it was pretty crazy to see Yee in the flesh. He kind of walked in late.
Starting point is 03:27:42 He wasn't there for the very start, but it seems like they low-key, be treating the celebrities like VIP's in court because Machine Gun Kelly was able to cut past all of the media a couple of days ago. Yay managed to get in, even though there was a giant line and he was late. You know what I'm saying? They was making it work for Yee. Now, I'm not going to lie to you, Yee stared me down. He looked over to me and just stared me down for an extended period. He looked at me for longer than Dirk did when Dirk stared me down. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 03:28:04 I was a little bit like, I'm really in the courthouse getting pressed and intimidated by Kanye West right now. This is straight mind games. Okay. Now what was interesting is he looked down for a lot of the testimony. OTF Jam was literally on the stand. We got Dirk, Jam, Yay, me all in the same room at the same time. It was surreal. Now one thing I will say, and I'm going to criticize, criticize Ye for this. Okay. Every time the jury enters and leaves the room, you have to stand. You have to rise for the jury and the judge. When the judge, comes in on his own, you have to rise for the judge, and the judge made it very clear that the jury is actually above him when it comes to justice. It's the jury that are making the decision,
Starting point is 03:28:38 so the judge, as well as everybody else, rises for the jury to show respect for the importance of the jury's role. You know who didn't rise for the jury? Kanye West, he didn't rise for the jury. He wasn't respecting the jury. He wasn't respecting the justice process. And I'll be honest, I don't respect that. I thought that was very disrespectful. I thought that was just not proper. I love you, chat, but anybody give a damn about that, man. Shout to Biggie A in the man. Yay show up to the building. It's yay, nigga. I'm sorry to tell you. That's yay. I'm sorry. Yo, I fuck with you chat, but that's yay, nigga. That's yay. And I don't really like how these celebrities are getting this VIP treatment, but then they're not respecting the jury.
Starting point is 03:29:16 This is supposed to be a free society, free press, free speech, but you're supposed to respect the jury. You're supposed to respect the judge. Yay wasn't really respecting any of what goes on. Obviously, he sees himself as a god, right? But at the end of the day, this case is in God's hands. and it's in the jury's hands. So we're going to find out what happens. No disrespect. But I personally thought that, yay, not rising for the jury, was disrespectful and it didn't respect the justice process. As much as everybody wants to say free Dirk, it's in the jury's hands and it's up to the jury to decide whether or not they believe beyond a reasonable doubt that Dirk did this based on the evidence that's presented to them fair and square. So, yeah,
Starting point is 03:29:51 I would suggest that everybody in the courtroom respect the jury. They don't, there's no indication that they're biased. There's a very diverse jury, all right? I'm not going to comment too much on the jury, but, you know, there's all this talk about. Are there any black jurors? There are jurors from all different races. I don't know nationalities. I've not spoken to any of them, and I don't plan to. But anyway, it looks like there's something going on in these streets now. There's some crazy ambulance pulling up. But I will see you guys in next video. Okay, uh, Sedi Nash got a bunch of updates. Here we go. Setti Nash. All right, Sedi popping out. To go viral, bro. This is about to go viral.
Starting point is 03:30:29 So you got Jim who basically told the whole entire thing. They basically got away with it, bro. They literally basically got away with it. Jam got pulled over, had a gun on them, and basically wrote a note. The note literally reads, um, I know about murders. I don't want to talk on camera. I know a lot. Then we ended.
Starting point is 03:30:53 Did they really get away with it, though? felt like the fed's kind of new, new is just that they needed they needed people to flip, like for sure. And we don't know if Jam is the first person to flip. Before lunch with the damn
Starting point is 03:31:12 lawyer saying, do you still got a love for Little Dirk? He's going to say yeah, I love a little Dirt. But you know, what Little Dirk did was selfish, what Little Dirk did was basically put me in a situation with people, I don't know. You know, with cats, I don't even know. When we went and slid for Vine, I didn't even know Vi.
Starting point is 03:31:31 If it had been like Booney Mode, then it wouldn't have been no problem and all that. And then he said, he had no reason to do this. And he said, he still got love for dirt. He was there for me, and I feel bad. And I know he hate me, but I still got love for dirt. Bray, how you love me and all that shit, but you're just trying to throw me up under there. And here's what's crazy. He said he feels bad for sliding on Cuando and all them. But it's some more shit to get into it. right bro this shit about to go viral so you got jim who basically told the whole entire thing they basically got away with it bro they literally basically got away with it jm got pulled over had a gun on
Starting point is 03:32:10 them and basically wrote a note the note literally okay oh um money duke in and god damn little dirt get into it about them not sliding for vine and money duke basically like man y'all ain't slide for vine y'all ain't did shit for vine all of this shit And then Mone of Duke basically was talking hell of shit. And he got on group chat, texting everybody talking hell of shit. So... It's my shit popping up on my shit right now. Shout out.
Starting point is 03:32:37 So anyways, God damn. Mondeuke and them make it on group chat with Dede and... What's Cud's name? With Dedy and Jim and Dirk and they all talking shit. And Jem like, niggum, we're going to go to war with the Odie. Fuck them. Nick, hey, man, man, dude, y'all ain't sloaf around. The Mada duly, nigga, y'all didn't fly for a guy.
Starting point is 03:32:56 y'all didn't do shit for vime bro so niggins fuck y'all and so it just go off like that bray so you mean to tell me oblock and lamb ron was basically gonna go to war for not sliding for vine brayne brayne crazy shit keeps tuning in i'm about to update the shit out of yore oh um here we go we found out that braids the uh yeah the brays motherfucker he lied in his testimony i didn't piece of shit out of him if i'm brys still because brays lied about the cameras and said that uh hey bray we didn't had cameras and and all this shit. No, literally, they could have audio recorded it because jam the one who said no video cameras. That's the reason why. So if you were such a head hancho and all this shit, how you didn't read the note about the person who said, I... No, this is, I think SETI is wrong here. I'm going to tell you why. The 30 times was not with detectives. The 30 times, the majority of times was with the AUSA. The way how cases work, the detective or the agent starts the investigation, gathers probable cause
Starting point is 03:33:56 in this situation, a U.S. attorney because it's feds, they have to sign off on it. But once it's there, it's in the fed's hand. The feds always have to be prepared to go to trial.
Starting point is 03:34:07 That's why they sign off on cases. The state, they got to take any case, even if it's bullshit. The feds pick their cases. So after they pick their cases, they're going to work, yo, come meet with us.
Starting point is 03:34:21 They're not detectives. They're lawyers. Okay? They're lawyers. So the 30 meetings is a mix between FBI agents and AUSA. The AUSA also is going to have mock crosses where they're going to simulate them being in the courtroom. That's what that is. It doesn't even make sense for them to meet with a detective 30 times.
Starting point is 03:34:44 The detective got the story already. The detective wrote it up already. They met with the AUSAs, the lawyers, okay? probably more than 20s. The same thing with Cassie. Cassie didn't meet with a detective. You know they said Cassie met like 20 times? She didn't meet 20 times with a detective.
Starting point is 03:35:02 She met 20 times with Marine Comey. She was up in that just like 6'9. After 6'9 shit goes through, he's meeting with the, when he decided to testify, he said he slept in the prosecutor's office, not detective's office. You are working with their lawyers to prepare for their case. That's it. Okay? So while preparing for their case, they're not going to record that.
Starting point is 03:35:26 So that's where I think Sedi Nash has it wrong. Now, you have to note that you met with the person. It has to be noted. In discovery, you have to say we met with this witness that we plan to call this amount of times. But as long as they don't use a quote that emanates from one of those times that there's no recorded or documentation, there isn't a procedure.
Starting point is 03:35:52 they're not doing nothing wrong. Now, could you bring it up in trial to say, yo, Cassie met with the lawyer 20 times. This person met with the, we're not lawyer. I mean, the prosecutor 20 times. But yeah, that's the thing. It's not, it's not, I think SETI is having the misunderstanding
Starting point is 03:36:08 that JAM met with the detectives or the FBI agent 20 times. No. Once they, you probably met with them probably like three times. They already got the story. They passed it on to the U.S. attorney. the U.S. attorney's not working on a case. The U.S. attorney is also going to work on an indictment.
Starting point is 03:36:26 So that's why they're going to be like, yo, we need you to come meet. Those are not going to be recorded. Hey, bro, I'm free to come snitch, just don't bring no videos. If he would have said, hey, man, I'm not going to snitch. If y'all bring cameras, that's one thing. But he said they didn't bring him for a whole entire different reason. Say, too, we got way more coming out because, man, this shit is crazy.
Starting point is 03:36:45 They're talking about, hey, bro, um, Lord Dirk was buying hot cars for everybody. But there's a bomb shell that happened. too. They say, g-say, niggas didn't get paid for Sine for Vine. I mean, for Sond for Vines outside of L.A. So they really destroy the murder for hire part
Starting point is 03:37:01 because they basically come out and say, that's not true again. Love you said it, but it's not true. You don't have to pay the person for it to be murdered for hire. It needs to be a verbal, it needs to be a contract. The payment does not have to be delivered. There doesn't even have to be an attempt to pay.
Starting point is 03:37:19 If I tell you, commit this crime for a zillion dollars i don't even have to have the money as long as the reason why you're doing the crime is understood between me and you that you're doing it for the hopes of compensation that's murder for hire you do not got to get paid okay so uh that's i need you guys to understand as we cover this trial payment is not a requirement for a conviction murder for hire is basically a conspiracy charge. And when you're proving conspiracy, you always got to prove that there is an agreement.
Starting point is 03:38:04 So the agreement of compensation. And compensation doesn't only have to be money. I know it says murder for hire, but promising career advancements, promising, oh, you know what, you could further along, these other endeavors, that's still murder for hire. If the incentive to do murder is associated with any type of compensation,
Starting point is 03:38:33 you know, if you kill this nigger, I'll give you my old car. That's murder for hire. If you kill this nigga, I'll sign you to my record deal or my record label. That's murder for hire. If you kill this nigga, I'll give you a million dollars. And I don't have a million dollars. Murder for hire, still. The murder for hire, the first thing is, the murder.
Starting point is 03:38:52 The murder, the murder is undisputable. At least in this case. The second thing is the agreement, the conspiracy part. And then the rest of it is the follow through. In the feds, if someone dies, there is no wiggle room. You either beat the case or you get automatic life. If someone gets shot with the use of a deadly weapon, you get at least 25. or 20, I think.
Starting point is 03:39:26 If you try to go kill the person and you agree to do the murder for hire, and even if you didn't harm a hair on their head, you get 10. So if the person is not harmed, 10, the person gets harm but doesn't die. It's like, I think it's either 15 or 20. And if you use a deadly weapon, it's 25. That's all if the person don't die. So murder for hire, the only way you can don't get on life is if the person you are Hired to kill didn't die.
Starting point is 03:39:59 Now, you might be like, well, there's a technicality. They were hired to kill Kwando. Well, anyone who dies in the commission of a murder for hire. That's how it's looked at. So in this case, there is no wiggle room. And I just, you know, obviously Brian Steele and, you know, what's his name? Drew Phelan is going to fight this idea that this was not necessarily a murder for hire. But you might not realize it.
Starting point is 03:40:24 The government is putting on their case to prove that it is. Why do you think Jam is making it known? Why you think Jam is specifically saying it? Dirk, you were selfish. This murder was just for you. Because they know Dirk is going to say, or his team is going to say, why would Dirk got to pay his friends to slide for one of his other friends?
Starting point is 03:40:41 They're making it known. We didn't know Vaughn like that. This was selfish. This was for you. You enticed us with basically saying, if we did this, we'd be straight for life. Which was assumed, even though people might be like,
Starting point is 03:40:57 well, he never promised. a certain dollar amount. The context is what's going to carry it. Remember, this is conspiracy. You can't use black and white shit on conspiracy. It's all about interpretation. Who got the most believable story? The point is, the jury is going to be like,
Starting point is 03:41:16 nigger, you're clearly offering something if people are shouting out in the room. It got to be half a ticket. Nah, now, a million, a million. You must have, you were offering some compensation. That's murder for hire. in some interpretation. Now, some other interpretation might be like, no,
Starting point is 03:41:36 he was definitely not offering that. He was just saying, yo, you rise up in the ranks in the gang. That's not murder for hire. That's down the line of violent crimes in aid of racketeer, or not racketeering, in aid of whatever for a gang. And possibly could go up to a RICO, but that's not murder for hire. murder for hire is very distinct. Little Dirk was putting money in the street for people because motherfuckers kept on begging.
Starting point is 03:42:04 They was asking for houses and cars and all this shit. And then Lamron versus OTF war, damn this start. We found out that Braids did. Okay. So Lamron almost get into a war with Rich O. Lamron and everybody versus O'T F because of some shit that happened with Booney Moe. So Boone Moe get into it with some cash some Lamron and they got locations. Rich O.
Starting point is 03:42:30 his own house arrest but nobody go slide on this car. Jam like, yeah, my baby mama, she from, she from Lamarind, she could have got the load. So they was planning to all go meet up and go fight or shoot it out and all this shit. Or some real socials versus greasers. If you remember the outsiders, bro, that shit
Starting point is 03:42:47 was crazy as hell. They're talking about, yeah. So, uh, rich old Lamron. Hey, chat. Uh, this is another rabbit hole. We could probably go down when we got a downtime and we don't have jam on the, on the, on the, um, stand. but there's a rabbit hole we could go down,
Starting point is 03:43:03 which is the beef between Lamron and pretty much Tate Town. It's pretty much a Dirk beef, right? It's pretty much Dirk has picked a different side of guys he's hanging with, guys he's funding, guys he's preferring. He has his own reasons. He feels these guys done X, Y, and Z, or they're not standing on business like X, Y, and Z. And it's very convoluted.
Starting point is 03:43:28 but, you know, it does get to a point where Dirk had like an unreleased track where he was supposedly like this in them. I think this is not AI too, but there was an unreleased track where he was like dissing or like, you know, this in the Lamont. One thing the feds will appreciate, Dirk was as honest. Him, Poo Shai Stee, and Vaughn, they're honest in their music. You know what I mean? Like they were, you could tell him that he's never went into studio and be like, man, what's your? I rap about today? Like, what cap could I do?
Starting point is 03:44:06 They would, they would rap about pretty much exactly how they felt. Proud to be a member, just the trenches, they can't tell me shit, and I've been in my bag, 2020,
Starting point is 03:44:16 you can tell me rich, I seen girls, act like they send weed. They can't mail me shit. They mama slick. Can't get through their line. I hate a petty bitch. Wait, is this,
Starting point is 03:44:24 no, there's an unreleased joint. He's, he's way more aggressive. Nah, it's ain't it. Now, it's ain't it. Check, y'all know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 03:44:36 No, no, there's a, fuck. Because he calls out names on there too. Y'all know what I'm talking about? Little Dirk Survivor. It's an unreleased joint. It's an unreleased joint.
Starting point is 03:44:59 Oh, let me see, let me see, see. I'm smart the niggas I used to call my brothers like, niggas I used to send money to me. I ain't even cap. I used to let the niggas in the backseat, right behind my motherfucker chat, that's how much I used to trust your bitch of his, man. You'll know it's about the song.
Starting point is 03:45:19 He's super upset. Very upset. Just a little your wadden, baby thread, nubs, y' ass, niggum. Wait, you gonna have baby threat do what? Oh, hell not. That's probably the wrong shooter to call out, man. Baby thread, I'm dumb, show. I gave you 100, dang, give a sleeve.
Starting point is 03:45:42 Jesse, please, act like you so solid, but you bit the cheese. Rich, oh, please. I'm the one who's shit money, nigga, go check receipts. Me and boo'n't so deaf ain't trying to talk. They're trying to get to Steve. Much don't know what happened. You run your mouth too much, you FED. Same options to make you change.
Starting point is 03:45:57 Blocks made you play Mr. Freeze. Talk about me through the city like I ain't smirk, I ain't saying that I'm a chief With the war with the whole world, I asked a murder man he was out to sea Could have been shot on my back but they were so scared cause little rob shot for me Hang with wolves I just don't speak on y'all you niggas led back sheeps Nigger I'm a provider you did an interview just show receipts Yeah I'm a rap I dare to forget who I was when little v lost his knee Won't subscribers fuck me up two killers told me click the link hit the group chat and I show my brothers
Starting point is 03:46:23 They don't know what to think Yeah that's when niggins started doing interviews and shit like that you said you want subscribers and fuck me up two killers told me to click the link he'll know what to do they don't know what to shoot and then I will not give up they cannot stop us right with my chopper I'm a survivor
Starting point is 03:46:46 thoughts you with my partner he ain't even shot none I still gave his props up I'm a survivor I did it without And then he got um yeah Dirk was really still beefing with his hood my naga Like shit was crazy
Starting point is 03:47:02 Hey, this shit like videos here. did this and they ain't do that and all this shit, bro. It basically, Cass was hot. They was pissed the hell off. So they're like, um, jim told dirt.
Starting point is 03:48:34 Hey, nigga don't respond to these niggas no more on social media. We're in a war. We're fin of thug it up. Fuck these niggas, bro. Hey, nigga, give me the car and I go do this shit myself.
Starting point is 03:48:43 Nick, I'll go slide on the motherfuckers my goddamn self. So Lamrod almost get into a war with rich. Mm. So the Kondo Suda ends up happening like this. they basically get Kondo Rondo's location. They pull up.
Starting point is 03:48:58 D.D. presses the gun to the goddamn window. Say, I can smoke these niggas right now. They goofy and shit. They ultimately don't do it because it's a lot of people. They pull back up in the early morning again. They don't bust them because it's a lot of people. They thought about basically getting out there and getting in the paint. So they follow them to a weed shop.
Starting point is 03:49:13 The weed shop standing for a minute. Then they send brown eyes in there. He'd go this roll, take all his shit. Go up in there. He's like, we can't go outside of because, bro, it's armed security. all of this shit in there. So they follow them to the bait store. These fools stop for a moment about running in the bait store and shooting the fuck out of Kwondo, Rondo. But they was worried that the damn door would lock. So they like, nah, we ain't going to go do that. So they keep
Starting point is 03:49:36 on follow them. And then when they pull up to the gas station, they see Kondo and them get out. That's when they go make that turn. And they decide, man, fuck this. This, we're going to go do it. But they say, I can't remember. Flokka basically fucking shot first. His gun jam. And he said that Flaka had the Barretta and that he shot his shit like photons. And Flaka had shot the shit over brown eyes head. So they start arguing this shit about this. Why they shoot the fucking girl this shit. Like, nigga, you almost fucking blew my head off.
Starting point is 03:50:09 All this shit. So they get back in there and they get rid of the goddamn stolen car. That's parked. Chat, it's the rookie team. Did I tell you? The shooters is brown eyes. Flaka. and jam
Starting point is 03:50:25 first things first brown eyes is the first nigger out the car he's fast he starts shooting too quick they didn't get a chance to run down on them closer jam is like fuck i wanted to walk him
Starting point is 03:50:42 down or at least get closer but now this nigga find bullets from there I can't go in front of the bullets so I got to shoot from here then the other dude flaka he come out he don't know how to use a gun kind of this shit jam
Starting point is 03:50:54 Oh shit, he fired one bullet, almost even shot the other nigger. He's trying to work the gun. Oh, what the fuck? I got a, let's get back in the car, man. Let's get back in the car. Let's get back in the car. These guys is the rookie squad. One having a gun, a malfunction.
Starting point is 03:51:14 He hitting the gun. What the fuck? What the hell? He almost shot this man. The other guy, he just, he got the Swiss just going crazy. He just, the gun leading him. And he's 20 miles away from the people he's shooting. You see why OTF Jam is like, man, I got sent with some rookies.
Starting point is 03:51:31 Stole the car somewhere in L.A. And they basically hop all in the car. So everybody in the car, niggins, we're talking, niggas 6'5, fat-ass fucking jam, all of these people and all that. They all in the cars basically doing that shit. Then they get into the car. They go to In-N-Out. But when they go to in-and-out, they see two cops there and fucking jam them there freeze up. Like, man, fuck.
Starting point is 03:51:54 Maybe they send me because of my shoes and all this shit. So that ain't what end up happening. They get food from in and out. Then they get a sprinter back to San Diego and they get the hell out of there. But they throw away their shit as far as the guns. I mean, basically, long story short, they do that shit. So when they did all this, they say that Dirk was on the phone with them in the car. But he couldn't see Dirk on the phone because he's laid over.
Starting point is 03:52:17 Jail Farnass has laid over three dudes in the back of this car. And they drive it basically to in and out. They get a driver to take him from in and out. basically the San Diego. But here's the crazy part. All that bullshit about, oh, they met up with Dirk or any of that in L.A. They never met up with Dirk in L.A. That didn't even happen. So that's a big ass lie. I'm going to go back in this motherfucker. But hey, Settling Nash, make sure you follow. Okay. Okay. Tendan out with Dirk. What happened to tell her? Is she not doing videos? Come on. Oh, she is. Oh, there you go, Taylor.
Starting point is 03:52:55 Hi, I'm Taylor Priest, Los Angeles Magazine, and we are back at Lil Dirk's Murder for Higher trial where we took back up where we left off yesterday with Casey Hester or OTF Jam's testimony. So we kind of went back on a little more information about what happened leading up to the murder of Savaya Robinson. Hester and Banks, though, I wanted to know before court started, they stared at each other from across the room. They had, it was quite a good amount of time. I couldn't. Yo, Dirk, meat muggy, niggas. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 03:53:30 Smirky, yo! I don't see Dirk's face, but Hester's face was very serious. When he looked away, he just kind of stared at the ground after. And it was also interesting that the defense noted before court started that they couldn't see Hester's face. They wanted to make sure they had a clear view of Hester's face. They had to move the monitor. And from my recollection, that monitor was there yesterday.
Starting point is 03:53:53 So I don't know if this is a new thing that they decided they wanted in court today. So again, we got back to Hester's testimony where he testified they went back to the level hotel where Cuando Rondo and his crew were staying. And they parked that infinity and that BMW that was rented right outside the level hotel again. He testified that there was too many people outside the hotel, which is kind of similar to why they decided not to, he testified, kill Cuando Rondo the night before. So they decided that was not the location. There were too many people driving around. So he discussed the BMW and the Infinity.
Starting point is 03:54:34 He was in the Infinity with Keith Jones and Lindsay and Asa Houston. Asa's name is so that's Boogie. His case was severed. So Boogie's case was severed. Keith Jones is Jam's homie. from Chirac, he got recruited by Jam. Ironically, his gun jams, he shot one time. His name is Flaka.
Starting point is 03:55:04 Brown eyes, that's Dede's man. He's standing tall, but supposedly he might be the reason why Cuando alive. Because he shot pretty far away while Jam wanted to run down. But, yeah, that car had four people. Aza Houston never got out the car. So, boogie now. never got out the car. He was sitting in the car waiting.
Starting point is 03:55:32 Flocka hopped out. Brown eyes hopped out first. I think Jam was second. And essentially with Flocka, not only did his gun jam, he shot over the head of, I think, his jam, or Lindsay. And they got upset over that.
Starting point is 03:55:53 Like, nigga the fuck, you're trying to shoot me? We're all in the Infinity together. And then DeAndre Wilson and Grant were in the rented BMW. He testified to them following the Black Escalade that Cuando Rondo and Savi-Robbinson were in to a weed
Starting point is 03:56:11 dispensary called Litco. He said that they were looking around for a quote, quick getaway. He then discussed, he said they were on the phone the entire time, the Infinity and the BMW. They were... Yeah, I figured that. I figured they were either on the phone or
Starting point is 03:56:27 they dropped the pin or they were sharing location. Because remember, Chat, you ever watch these movies when they're like following a car? You ever think to yourself like, nigger, ain't no car could follow me and make two or three consecutive turns and I don't see them? Apparently, to be honest, they were doing like this a little bit, not saying complex because it was kind of some stupid niggins in these cars.
Starting point is 03:56:47 But the BMW would get closer to the vehicle more often. So the BMW would get closer to the vehicle to the, to the escalate, right? And their job was just to communicate the location of where it was driving to, to the other car. Okay? In constant contact is what he said, discussing when the right time was. At one point, Hester testified that Lindsay went into the dispensary to get a look to see
Starting point is 03:57:23 where Cuando Rondo was. He had said Cuando Rondo was towards the back and they didn't feel like that was the right place. Yeah. So in the dispensary, I guess Cuando, Rondo and them knows the guy, or they probably recognize Cuando. So they bring Cuando to a backroom area that he could look at some extra. They got more products.
Starting point is 03:57:43 They try to, you know, also they probably like, yeah, do a little promo video for us. We will bless you, we'll hook you up. You know, businesses do that when a rapper comes in and something like that. So he's in the back. And he's not just out like just in the area of the store where everybody would be. So they're like, fuck, we don't want to do it. it here. Okay. So they then followed the black escalade to a clothing store in Beverly Hills. And their Hester testified that they were on the phone talking about how they were worried that
Starting point is 03:58:16 door of the clothing store had an automatic lock on it and they didn't want to be stuck. But they allegedly considered going inside and shooting Cuando Rondo there. He doesn't really, he states multiple times that he does not know Los Angeles. He doesn't know the area so we can't speak to where they're out most of the time but he said he he now another reason why you know to give you more context why they couldn't do it at the dispensary okay the one another reason they couldn't do it at the dispensary is that dispensaries in los angeles if they're legal they're required to have security personnel um do dispensaries in Los Angeles have security.
Starting point is 03:59:05 Yes, licensed dispensaries in Los Angeles must have security on site. On site. So usually you'll see an armed person there. And I think they were realizing if we're going in to go shoot a nigger, we want to make sure there's not somebody there that could shoot one of us. So they don't go there. Okay? A weed dispensary called Litko.
Starting point is 03:59:32 and when the right time was. Then they think about going to bait. At one point, Hester testified that Lindsay went into the dispensary to get a look to see where Cuando Rondo was. He had said, oh, somebody is mentioning the chat, Cali Cah, Cali Cah, what up, man? He says, act, they not only got security, they got auto lock doors. So if you're thinking about venue or place to go kill somebody, you don't want to go there, because if they hit the auto-locked doors, you're probably fucked.
Starting point is 04:00:07 So why I said, bro, let her speak for herself? No, I'm giving context to some of these things. Again, you guys, at a certain point, you start hearing the same info more and more, is for us to try to, like, decode it, to figure out, like, damn, why didn't they do it in that spot? Okay, now you get more info. That's what we're trying to do here, okay? Said Cuondo Rondo was towards the back, and they didn't feel like that was the right place. So they then followed the black escalade to a clothing store.
Starting point is 04:00:33 in Beverly Hills and there Hester testified that they were on the phone talking about how they were worried that door of the clothing store had an automatic lock on it and they didn't want to be stuck but they allegedly considered going inside and shooting Cuando Rondo there. He doesn't really, he states multiple times that he does not know Los Angeles. He doesn't know the area. So we can't speak to where they're at most of the time, but he said he remembers the hotel. He remembers the weed dispensary. He remembers the clothing store. and the next thing he remembers was getting to that gas station adjacent from the Beverly Hills, the Beverly Center.
Starting point is 04:01:12 He even says at one point he doesn't even know what the Beverly Center is until his attorney tells him what it is. So he explains this even in the getaway that he doesn't know the area. So once they get to the gas station, he testifies that they drove next to the escalate. he even says that a tall person got out of the black escalate and saw their car. And then he drives around, they drive around Houston, Asa Houston was driving the infinity. He said he knew the BMW. He didn't know where, but he knew they were in the area.
Starting point is 04:01:49 And the black, the white infinity drove around the gas station. And that is when he described a Lindsay jumping out of the car moving very quickly. So him and Keith Jones were following after. And he said he was expecting, he said he's used to, this is a quote, he's used to walking up, walking on people. And so he was expecting, he testified to get closer to Cuando Rondo before they committed this shooting. But he said he was surprised. He didn't expect Lindsay to start shooting so quickly and so far away. So Lindsay, he said, threw him off. And then they all began shooting at this black escalate. And the prosecutor asked him, were you worried about? shooting at gas pumps, were you worried about an explosion? And he very quickly was like, no, they were not concerned about that. He even kind of imitated what he heard when the shooting was occurring. He was like, dim, dim, dim, like he imitated the gunshots happening. Like, he could hear it in his mind. And he also testified to it just being a very chaotic scene. He said at one
Starting point is 04:02:57 point, he felt like Lindsay may have fallen over. He, Lindsay was shouting. at Jones for shooting too close to his head, which is something that the gun expert had also mentioned, that it looked like someone had gotten shocked by the blast of the gun next to his head. Then he talks about getting back into the infinity, driving around. He's on the phone. He testifies to D.D. D. D. Andre Wilson being on the phone with Banks, who he calls Blood. and he says he heard Blood's voice. Wilson was asking the group questions about who shot who, where they were at, wanting details from what happened.
Starting point is 04:03:38 And he testified that Dirk was also asking these questions to Wilson, who was asking them, relaying the information back. And yeah, so he did testify that he heard Bloods or Dirk's voice on that phone call. He then also, I wanted, I thought it was interesting that they then make a car switch to the black escalate, which we knew there was a switch in cars. We hadn't heard that before. The infinity gets dropped off or abandoned.
Starting point is 04:04:10 They get in the BMW. He says a lot of guys squeezing this small car. And then they somehow transitioned to the black escalade. Hester Testified he didn't quite know how. That sounds crazy. So we have Vani and Didi. Yeah, we have Vani and Didi. who are in the BMW.
Starting point is 04:04:31 Who was in the white BMW? I know it's Vonie and Didi. I'm going to tell you who. Let me see, let me see, see. I thought there was a third person in there. Well, okay, Vonie and Dedy, but regardless, it's a BMW. The amount of people that was in the other car is four people. Asa Houston, Lindsay,
Starting point is 04:05:07 Flaka Keith Jones, and O.T. TF Jam. All I mean all four of them, if they were, if they left the hot car, which is the they left the fucking, what do you call it again? The infinity. And they jump into the BMW. All of them had to fit
Starting point is 04:05:23 in the back seat. So look like Jam's fat ass just like start laying on, laying on his niggins type shit, you know? They got there. But they get in that car. And the prosecutor was very specific. Was there a partition?
Starting point is 04:05:39 could the driver hear you? And he said there was not a partition. This is something he asked before. So I wonder if there's a driver testifying. I wonder if they're setting it up for the conversation. Now, they supposedly get in a escalate. So they called it like an Uber. Okay.
Starting point is 04:05:59 She's asking, why is the Uber driver not testifying? Keep in mind, the feds didn't crack this case, or law enforcement didn't crack this case for a, while so that you know a uber driver might have several hundred rides in a week so if they didn't immediately hit up that uber driver that uber driver might be struggling to be like hey you remember that one ride i'm during this time did they say anything crazy you might not you know and the escalate could be heard this is also the same escalate that ended up driving them to the san diego airport that night to fly back to chicago um
Starting point is 04:06:39 He then talks about how he he testifies to once he got back home, he left San Diego. He felt very mad. He felt like the shooting had nothing to do with him. He called it, quote, sloppy. He said, in my eyes, this guy was innocent. And he didn't know at that point. He testified that it was Robinson who was hit. But he said even Cuando Rondo, like he had nothing to do with this beef.
Starting point is 04:07:05 He didn't know King Vaughn very well. He didn't know Cuando Rondo. So he didn't feel involved and that came up a lot. He said he had a lot of negative feelings towards that. He also said he felt Dirk was, quote, selfish in asking him to be a part of this. He or having him be a part of this allegedly. And then he also has this quote where he said it's first, his first time being a free father to my son. And he, yeah, he testifies about how he just didn't feel.
Starting point is 04:07:38 good about what happened afterwards. Before we broke for lunch, he, or sorry, before we broke for the morning break, he testified, his last testimony was that he was never offered payment before committing the shooting. That was like a big deal in the courtroom. That was a very dramatic note to end on. When we were brought back, he did say he was, he said there was payment. It was afterwards and he testified there was discussion about payment after the murder was committed. He also testified to being in a music video called Federal Freestyle, where he was paid $10,000 to be in that music video. His song though.
Starting point is 04:08:19 He never been in a music video, never been on an album before. And the prosecution asked him, do you think you would have been able to be in that video if you didn't weren't a part of this shooting? And he said no, and he even testified he didn't think he would, he would have ever been around. He would have been alive, essentially. But back to the music video, it seemed to be implied that this music video may have been the payment, the way of paying him for the shooting, the alleged murder to hire is coming into play. Next, the prosecution asks some questions about, it kind of goes back about Dirk and how he was feeling about King Vaughn's death. And we've heard a lot
Starting point is 04:09:01 in the courtroom that Hester has testified, Dirk. didn't like being made fun of or ridiculed for letting the shooting of King Vaughn fly to let that just go get them get away with that and so one quote that Hester said Dirk said was the whole world saw them run them being Oblock the the crew they ran when King Vaughn was shot and that was very embarrassing that that wasn't they lost a lot of respect from that and then they go into some beef with rancho Lamron, his beef with the group, OTF. They were beefing with Boone Moe and or Lamron was beefing with Boone Moe Moe and they all picked Boone Moe's side. And that beef seemed to indicate, I think they were just trying to prove that Dirk is a leader in all of this because there is a voice
Starting point is 04:09:54 conversation played in the prosecution. Well, the judge made it very clear to the jury. This has nothing to do with Lindsay. His attorney would want that to be made clear that this was not evidence against Lindsay. But there's this whole voice message play. Yeah, because remember Lindsay, who his name is Brown Eyes, is not connected to any of the gang narrative. There's a gang narrative. Remember Lindsay, Lindsay's going to be interesting because,
Starting point is 04:10:24 yes, he's part of the conspiracy of murder, but the conspiracy that contains evidence of gang feuds that kind of contributed to it, no, he didn't know niggas like that. Okay, he knew Didi. Played where they say, um, let me find it. Blood want shit to go right. People call him for money. Um, it was all about how blood was supplying the cars. Blood wanted to make sure that things didn't go awry on this alleged plot against Lamron. Um, finally what was played,
Starting point is 04:11:05 It was, we went all the way, we went to the moment where Hester decided he wanted to be a snitch. He wanted to come forward. He discussed a somewhat guilty conscience because he didn't feel like the murder of Robinson was justified. He wasn't involved. He called him again. He said he was innocent. He said, this is a quote, it was weighing on me and I saw the opportunity. He was arrested in 2023 on a completely unrelated charge.
Starting point is 04:11:35 on probation for that 12 year stint he had in jail. And he was pulled over with a gun in his car, violated inspiration, went back to jail. And that is when he passed along a note that was shown in court that said, I know about murders. I don't want to talk on camera. I know a lot. So essentially, that is how we are told he is connected then to this case, to being a cooperator. And right before we broke for lunch, the prosecution asked him, how do you feel about Dirk? What are your feelings like towards uh towards dirk banks and he says i may this may be hard to believe because of what i'm doing but he says he has a lot of love for dirk he said that um he knows this shit won't go away but he still has a lot of love for him and um he just doesn't have any respect for him so
Starting point is 04:12:28 i don't believe the prosecution is done we're going to hear more from hester and from the prosecution in after our lunch break and then hopefully we will hear from brian steel in cross as well and see how he questions hester on what we've heard and um we get a little bit more context here chat here's a little bit more context on on what dirk said this is important this is important right here chat they said they they said you know at least michael blackshire here is talking about how the confrontation happened between Jam and Dirk. He said, I FaceTime blood. I asked blood.
Starting point is 04:13:14 Man, there was a million people you could have called, man. This was the first time I could have been a free man to my son. Now, so he's basically saying, man, why you call me for that stupid-ass hit, man? Why you put me on that dummy mission, Dirk? He said, you could have called a million people. Why you call me for that dumb ass shit, bro? The prosecutor said, what do he say? He told me he loved me.
Starting point is 04:13:38 He told me you didn't get Cuando, but Pop does count. They'd be on the internet talking about smoking Vaughn. Jeez, man. All right, let me read his shit. Here we go. Prosecutors say, you got love for Dirk still? Man, I still got a lot of love for him, man. What he did for me?
Starting point is 04:14:01 He gave to me. I got love for him, but I just don't respect him. Do you place blame? Yeah. Because he seemed like a goofy. I'm doing something for people I don't know So how come you made a decision to talk to FBI I wrote a note
Starting point is 04:14:17 What you write on a note? No, no, no, the prosecutor just read a note I know by murders, I know a lot So did you talk to someone? Yeah So you didn't want to talk on cameras or body cams A lot of people is getting exposed on social media I don't want to do that
Starting point is 04:14:31 As a BD that's breaking all laws You can snitch on an op and get fucked up After Jim talks about what could happen to a stitch, prosecutor says, Can you be murdered or kill? Yeah, of course. Even now? Of course.
Starting point is 04:14:48 So what made you talk to FBI? Man, I had to get that shit off my chest. Man, I just seen the opportunity. Why would this be off your chest? Man, I felt it was dumb, man, and a sloppy matter. People who shouldn't have been there was there. A bunch of goofies.
Starting point is 04:15:04 Did you think y'all were going to get caught? I know we're going to get caught. L.A. is rich people, actors. I don't feel like that's no place to do no damn crime. You pled guilty to your role in the murder. Yeah. Are you hoping for a reduction in your sentence? Yeah.
Starting point is 04:15:22 Has the government said what reduction you will get at your sentence? No. Were you uncomfortable with what happened? I thought it was sloppy, man. I don't know, dude. I don't know a little pop. In my eyes, he was innocent. I just said I ain't had no beef with them
Starting point is 04:15:36 I'm not on that level All that rap shit NBA young boy shit Quando Rondo shit Nick if this shit was about Booney Moe this should be different Man I don't know King Vaughn like that That thing was not my homie
Starting point is 04:15:51 Man I FaceTime blood I asked blood I said blood There was a million people You could have called This was my first time being a free man Being a free man to my son What Dirk say
Starting point is 04:16:04 Man he told me he loved me man He said you ain't get quonded up a pop do count, though. They'd be on the internet talking about they smoking Vaughn. James says, yo, he said they'd be on the internet talking about smoking Vaughn. He can't say that no more. Prosecutor says smoking Vaughn. I mean being disrespectful.
Starting point is 04:16:25 Was he pleased, at least on the FaceTime? Yeah, blow it smiling. James says, I was calling him and saying, why you put me in that situations with niggas, I don't know. You don't know what people are capable of. I did dirt with someone and he towed on me And I went to jail So were you ever offered payment for this?
Starting point is 04:16:46 Nah, man Prodictor says When a gang kills the rival Is that death Person death mocked? Man, Sharat made a popular say you smoking on somebody Like, it's like when we say smoking on Tuka Like Tuka's a person but you're dead up
Starting point is 04:17:02 Prosecutter says like smoking on his ashes Yeah Another word is Another word is like smoked Like he got smoked Prosecutor says in the red shoes, that's you? Yeah, that's me. So Jam is seen wearing the same red shoes on the surveillance footage
Starting point is 04:17:23 and the drive by by in and out. Footage of the drive by and that in and out. Jam says, man, Boogie was driving fast as hell. Remember, boogie's awesome Houston. I told Boogie, slow down, gang. Slow down. Be cool. He was on the phone with Didi. So what do he say?
Starting point is 04:17:43 Did y'all hit something? Who y'all shot? Who shot? What? Who did what? Said Didi was trying to figure it out. So how many times y'all nigga shoot? Jam said four times I heard that switch go off. So you can tell that the, the nigger who exited first had the switch, and that shit went off.
Starting point is 04:18:06 And he shot so far away, that shit, just shit, everything. You feel me? So did you know you were in Beverly Hills? Man, no. Nick, I don't even know what the Beverly Center is. He said, man, I ain't going to lie, man. Lindsay got mad at flocking for shooting over his head, man. to the different thing that you could have shot a pump and blew the whole shit up?
Starting point is 04:18:29 Man, I don't know nothing about that. Man, what happened when y'all went to in and out? Man, I seen a police officer. He kind of sized me up, man. I ain't know if my nerves got the best of me, but he made me nervous. Why did you want to get out of L.A.? Man, I didn't want to be there no more. I don't want to be there no more.
Starting point is 04:18:47 Man, bro, so all right, I ain't going to lie. He did try to confront Dirk. He did try to confront Dirk. I think at that point, Dirk probably realized, Oh, this is not good. But even how he said Dirk responding on that call, he said he asked Dirk,
Starting point is 04:19:19 I ain't gonna lie, he asked Dirk in a federal way. If a nigger call your phone and be like, yo, yo, bro, why, you pay me to go kill them niggas over there? Damn, that sound mad federal. That's why Dirk was like, I love you, bro. I love you.
Starting point is 04:19:33 You see how Dirk, Dirk ain't stupid. Dirk ain't stupid. Then Dirk threw it right back on him. Pause. That's why Dirk was like, man, at least you. got at least you got pop at least you threw it back on him
Starting point is 04:19:45 like nigga you know you did that right you know you got pop yeah at least you got pop he was saying fuck vaughn anyway fuck that nigga low key that I think Dirk thought he that was a setup call that was the feds trying to get the wire you know a nigga call your phone and be like man
Starting point is 04:20:02 yo bloke why you send me on that goddamn drill man man I just for the first time in 12 years I got to be a father to my son why you send me on that goofy-ass drill, man? You know Dirk ain't say? My bad. He ain't take no responsibility.
Starting point is 04:20:18 What do he say? Man, I love you, man. I love you. He ain't answered the question at all. Dirk not dumb. Dirt not dumb. That's some incriminating ass question. Why you sent me on a drill?
Starting point is 04:20:29 Why you send me on a drill, Smirkio? That was a goofy-ass drill. Smirk said, I love you, man. And then he keeps going and Dirk was like, man, the nigger you got? The nigga you got you? So Dirk never takes no accountability for sending it. What he takes kind of accountability of is knowing that that nigga killed him.
Starting point is 04:20:51 But it doesn't say he set it up or nothing. And then he hung up and he got up off the phone. I think Dirk back then was like, this thing is on some police shit. Dirk must have been thinking. Dirk must have been thinking, yo, this thing is on some police shit. This thing on that police shit, man. This thing on that police shit.
Starting point is 04:21:15 What you mean you're going to call it? throw my phone, Tomom. Dirk, why you send me on the drill, bro? Why you send me on that drill, Derek? That was some police shit right there. That was worried out here. Okay. My man, going off.
Starting point is 04:21:43 And they got Yee. Look at Yee in there. Day 6. Shout to the night. Yeah, look at Ye. Yeah, walking through that building, man. This is the courthouse. Damn, how they record inside that bitch, though?
Starting point is 04:21:57 How do record inside that bitch? Yeah, look at the security guard. He on timing. Nah, stop that. Yeah, I cut that out. Yeah, I'll cut that out. I'll cut that out. Chat, who else could I, um,
Starting point is 04:22:30 who else could I look at for some updates? Man, he really called Dirk. I want to know the timeline on that. He really called Dirk and be like, why you send me on that goofy ass hit, Dirk? You know, Smirk. Why, why you do that to me, nigga? That's kind of all so crazy.
Starting point is 04:22:47 Like, he literally told Dirk like, yo, bro. If that's true, I ain't gonna lie It looked crazy on Dirk If a killer actually say, bro, why you send me on that goofy-ass mission, nigga? Nigger, that was the first time I had a chance to be a father to my kid, nigga. I ain't gonna lie, that looked bad.
Starting point is 04:23:07 That looked bad. Adam 22 out there? He's streaming or something? Some go live. We got a few more people. Yeah, we... Uh, never mind. We don't got no quicker update.
Starting point is 04:23:52 Hey, yo. Hey, all your record labels, I know y'all, because when I used to come out to L.A. early on when we was working, y'all used to put niggies like pawns in the same hotels. Hey, yo, the level hotel in downtown L.A.? Hey, all y'all record labels, stop booking niggas in, man. Y'all niggas don't know what's going on. Y'all got the rappers out there ready to die. Y'all can't put no niggies over here no more, man.
Starting point is 04:24:16 Especially when they try to fly out artists, they'll fly out artists when they try to sign them, too, and they'll put them over there. That's a dub. They got some shit in West Hollywood, too. And I ain't been to L.A. really, I feel like in years, but... No, actually, I was there last year, right? Some... Yo, L.A. is the worst, man. L.A. is the worst.
Starting point is 04:24:37 But y'all record labels stop booking that level hotel, man. There's mad hotels. The thing is, y'all be having a relationship with a hotel chain. Like, say Atlantic got a relationship with a hotel chain, they put all their artists there because they get a company rate. Here's the thing. Y'all sign niggas who beef with each other. So they know the two, three hotels y'all all use.
Starting point is 04:25:00 And then niggins be in LA for different reasons. So sometimes you got two ops staying at the same hotels. That's why niggins start using Airbnb's. And then when niggins start realizing that the rappers went to Airbnb's, they had the gangster niggins get them and extorting them. It's part of the reason LA kind of dead, man. They ran all the rappers out of L.A. I ain't going to lie to you.
Starting point is 04:25:23 They ran all them out. Them niggies used to eat at Boston Over. They tried to rob them at Boston Over. They want to walk down Rodeo drive. they popping out with guns on them in rodeo drive. They find out they're staring at Airbnb. They're running in the crib at midnight, bro. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 04:25:36 You staying down, you stay in, we're called again? You're staying at one of these basic-ass hotels that they put every artist at. You're running into your app. You're going to have to kill your op out there. You won't run into your op. No time in your own city. You go to L.A., you run into that nigger in the lobby. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 04:26:02 You go to the airport. airport you getting chased by Wack 100. This is a bad deal going out to L.A. gang. You in L.A., just be careful. You go to the Marathon Burger, there's a shootout. Like, it's just crazy. L.A. is not a safe place, bro. You go to Roscoe's trying to get you some fried chicken and waffles, a nigger trying to take your chain, bro. This shit is bananas. L.A. is on some other shit. Are they saying, is it cross, are they crossing at this point? Let's see. I think it might be time across, right? Let's see what Brian Steele going to bring to the table.
Starting point is 04:26:48 Ah, Steele's on the job. Now, this is Steele's case, nigger. Yo, we haven't heard Finland once. Nigger, this is Steele's case. Oh, Brian Steele is on there. Nah, Brian Steele. Brian Steele fin a job 50, man. Brian Steele fin a job 50 on him.
Starting point is 04:27:28 I can't believe we haven't heard from Drew Finland. He didn't do the opening. He ain't do nothing. Brian Steele is on the job. This is the showdown we all wanted to see. It's like the best pitcher versus the best home run hitter. It's like the best pitcher versus the best home run hitter. Brian Steele is on the job, y'all.
Starting point is 04:28:01 Let me see. I'm about to post this to the Instagram real quick. Because everybody, you know that's a showdown everybody wants. If Brian Steele can't break this nigga, G G's in the chat If Brian still can't break this nigga It's G G's in the chat
Starting point is 04:28:20 nigga We know We gonna catch Dirk on appeal Them 30 times That you've seen that they met With that nigga jam It's to prepare for Brian fucking steel
Starting point is 04:28:34 Nigel Nigger I posted to the gram Jammy the bull Man that nigga really said to That nigga really said to Dirk Man There's a million niggas
Starting point is 04:29:01 You could have called for this hit Man I just came home Being a father bro I don't know. Maybe Jam is sick and tired of being sick and tired. Honestly, Chad. I'm not going to lie. Hearing, you know, we keep hearing about how he's this demon or whatever.
Starting point is 04:29:15 I'm not saying he's not. He's not a good guy. But like, a nigga did 12 years. Bro, he just got busted for a gun. He foals after getting busted for a gun. Maybe he's a nigga that's sick and tired of being sick and tired, bro. He said this was his first time to be a father to his son. That means he must have had that son before he went in jail.
Starting point is 04:29:34 That means his son. he did 12 years, nigga. That mean his son is 12 years older than when he last seen his son in the free world. Maybe he's got sick and tired of that street shit. Maybe Dirk going off of, yo, everybody in the hood say this nigga was shooting shit up, robbing niggas. He's like that. Dirk thinking he's still on that same kid mindset. Like, yeah, I kill a nigga right now.
Starting point is 04:30:02 And maybe he, when he did come out, Dirk gives him the money. He's like, all, fuck it. I'm going to slide for you. He's going to do. do one thing. Then he realized, man, Dirk treated him like a crash dummy. Dirk just like sent him on any mission,
Starting point is 04:30:17 the dumbest missions. Like, yo, yo, kill that nigga in front of the Hollywood sign. We don't care. You know, word? Then you know they're going to catch me. Nika, fuck it. Fuck it.
Starting point is 04:30:31 Yo, what I said? That niggas in the police station? Nigger, go shoot up the police station. Nigger, get that nigger. Fuck it. I think, I think there's a possibility in me
Starting point is 04:30:43 that thinks that this dude got sick and tired of that street life. Spent 12 years of his, like, with all due to respect, smirk been free, fucking the baddest bitches in the world, money out the ass, jet setting private, doing what he want. This nigger has never really lived life. The niggas hopped off the porch at 9 years old. They put a gun in his hand to shoot at a car at 12. I'm not feeling bad for it.
Starting point is 04:31:10 I'm just saying that this nigga never lived no regular life. That's what I'm saying. These are some dirty niggas. Nine, they put him in a gang. Twelve, he's shooting a gun. He robbed over 100 niggas. Shot or did 15 shootings by the time he hits 18. Gets arrested at 18.
Starting point is 04:31:33 Nicker can't even legally drink. Obviously, he can't do something. Nigger probably really ain't get no real pussy yet. He go to jail at 18 or prison. He'd come out at 30. he must have got some pussy because he has a kid I think and the first thing when he come home
Starting point is 04:31:52 after Dirk put some money in his hand Dirk get a goofy to put a gun in his hand and say nigga you're out here to kill Quando, nigga he on the drill and it's the goofiest drill of all time the only thing that didn't go wrong
Starting point is 04:32:09 on that drill is if they is them running out of gas or some shit like that like yo like like they're trying to get away and they're trying to get away and
Starting point is 04:32:17 They run out of gas right next to the gas station. Whoopty-doo. That's the only thing that ain't go wrong, man. The goofiest drill of all time. One nigga gun jam, he almost shot the other nigga in the head. The other nigga got the switch, but he, if you got the switch, why are you that far, knowing that you probably won't hit nothing? They hop back in the car.
Starting point is 04:32:41 These two goofies argue. Nick, why the fuck you were shoot on my head, nigga? You almost shot me. Yo, Jam, it's like, I'm with the rookies here, bro. The rookies. somebody say I'm acting like everything is saying it's true I'm not saying it's true I'm trying to give you a perspective of what someone's mindset should be we got to take everything with a grain of salt
Starting point is 04:33:06 this is the government's case right now right I think I think you want me to score it right now I think Brian Steele did a good job with them with them FBI agents did a good job with him a really good job they didn't counter anything with the medical examiner there's nothing to counter nigger died what you're going to say oh he didn't die oh there was It was four guns, not three. But that's the thing. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 04:33:30 There was four calibers. It was like, y'all said it was three shooters. There's four calibers of bullets that hit him or hit the vehicle. So who's the other shooter? You guys don't have all the... They didn't counter none of that. It is what it is. Like, that shit, it's set in stone.
Starting point is 04:33:44 What they're countering is the FBI investigation, them connecting the dots. And now the snitches. I think they did a decent job with the FBI. Actually, pretty good job, actually. Now these snitches, I can't say. see how you're going to do a good job with them. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 04:34:03 Here we go. Steel say, this is what stealing. Stealing Jam is talking now. You're a scary person, huh? Jam says, some may say that. Steel says objectively? Jam says, man, you know I'm stupid as fuck. Nick.
Starting point is 04:34:16 I don't even know what objectively means. Steel says, you're a dangerous person even now, right? Jam says, nah, I'm chilling. Steele says, do you realize how much time you spent tracking down and hunting your prey? You come here and go right to kill it, didn't you? Yeah. If you looked at your to-do list that day, wasn't it clear it was to kill? So, Steele is trying to really put it like, nigger, you're a machine, this is what you do.
Starting point is 04:34:51 You're just an evil guy. You feel what I'm saying? Oh, man. This is crazy. I forgot, I forgot, who else? I forgot the trod them that was happening with little pop in them. Pop you. And wagon season.
Starting point is 04:35:33 Know how that go. Hood, you are not me y'all if I do some funk shit, ain't it? Gotta go. You gotta go, boss, man. Hey y'all. Hey y'all. Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all.
Starting point is 04:35:51 What a? What a. What are? Hey, hey, Bernie, why y'all giggas don't like me? What do you say? I love y'all, niggas. Hey, hey, hey, Bernie, tell your bones to go buy that shit off the shelf next time. You heard me, Bernie?
Starting point is 04:36:11 He got a part of this, ho. That nigger named Barney. Not Bernie. Barney. Barney. They were clown of him. Y-69 sent me a video. Did he post it on his page?
Starting point is 04:36:23 He said nobody say nothing When it was me Nobody said chill Nobody said No brakes You're gonna feel this shit I want to rent free What?
Starting point is 04:36:42 Before you get into all that What the fuck you got on? This right here This is the one foot in One foot out Wyand Muslim Hamdulillah Special Model 3
Starting point is 04:36:50 Oh yeah Yeah Oh this shit attached Oh yeah That's the drill special Yeah this the drill special This for all the Muslims That want to
Starting point is 04:36:58 Like you said No match needed Nah This the YN look Look you could do this you could do this and go on your drills yo this thing about to get life of just off for my freedom of speech talking about and he got to talking about what the rapper six nine were the trolling stuff the question is okay tell us about that conversation OTF jam nine says I don't know who I can't
Starting point is 04:37:22 remember who initially brought up the trolling stuff but blood got talking about it and he got to talking about what the rapper six nine doing this is on this fat ass musty Black fucking gorilla ass nigga Sadi Nash this the buyer shit he he's saying but if you don't like this Let's bring it over here this thing about to do life off of an Instagram comment go to the fucking legend right here Howie Dirk talks about six nine trolling here so why do you want to watch it why don't you want to get your news from just go by one of these the dirt model three thousand's come to lilas I'm gonna do the big dirt I'm do the last school a little well I You don't even know what the fuck you saying nigger Fuck out of it quick disclaimer for the people would be like bro nobody was worried about you he was gonna slide anyway
Starting point is 04:38:10 Go tell Brian steal that then because if it's not one thing no he not worried about you he's gonna slide anyway So he's guilty right Before you get in so like what the fuck you got this guy Yes six nice six nights definitely mr. I told you so huh? Mr. I told you so mr. I told you so Mr. I told you so mr. I told you so huh uh boy but this was the trolling that was happening before or actually during mr teade boy that a nigga i'm missing the whole side of his mouth that might still why he got no bini j that might still on him why he got some bivis in his shit with all the
Starting point is 04:39:00 fucking diamonds on this wrist and his big only spending all that money on that punk group chat, huh? Okay, attorney Jasmine sent me something. Maybe she has a breakdown of what's going on. Let me see. Here we go. Is it this? Here we go. So, Dirk's a snitch, huh? Allow me to educate you. Did you know that in a trial, a defendant has the ability to control certain things like whether to testify, whether to plead guilty, whether to waive a jury trial and, you know, have a judge decide everything, whether to appeal. and whether to maintain innocence. But trial strategy is purely a lawyer's job.
Starting point is 04:39:53 That means the attorney gets to decide how to defend the case. What witnesses to attack? What evidence to emphasize? What theory to argue? And yeah, sometimes that means arguing that that the cooperating witnesses are not reliable, are not credible. They're blaming my client to save themselves,
Starting point is 04:40:12 and they are the ones with the motive to lie. That's not the same thing as the definitive getting on the stand and telling on somebody. That's not the same thing as the defendant talking with the FBI or the prosecutors and having a recorded a written statement telling on people. That's a lawyer doing what a lawyer is supposed to do, which is create reasonable doubt. And honestly, if the lawyer ignores the best defense, you know, out of fear that the internet might call the client a snitch, the reality is that attorney could be. deemed ineffective counsel later. Because in court the lawyer's duty is not to
Starting point is 04:40:52 protect street politics or even be concerned with them. The lawyer's duty is to defend the client. So before we label people snitches, we must first ask whether the defendant cooperated with the government or did the defense attorney just attack a cooperating witness because those are not the same thing. Don't believe me, McCoy versus Louisiana, Rock versus Arkansas, Strickland versus Washington, especially Jones versus Barnes, and Taylor versus Illinois. Thank me later. Okay. So she's, you know, an attorney who is given the perspective from the legal side, you know, people, some people are saying, nah, what, what Dirk is doing and his trial strategy
Starting point is 04:41:35 is cooperation. That's telling, that's snitching. If his, if his, you know, opening statements by his lawyers is saying, hey, the evidence matches that these guys did it. And these guys said they did it. Why the hell you got my guy charged? That's cooperation. She's given the legal you know, breakdown of why number one, it's it's upon your legal representation and counsel to pick the best strategy and also effectuate the best strategy not to try to please the internet. Also, that is not cooperation. So, you know, she's, she's kind of hammering home with, I think, I think everybody's kind of backed off that point, right? I think everybody's backed off that point.
Starting point is 04:42:19 Brian Steele is on the stand. I can't wait to hear what people say about his, all of his stuff. Because I do feel like, you know, there's a little bit derriding for Brian Steele. I think people, we've seen him, and by the way, maybe for good cause, because we've seen him do a really good job, not only in the case in YSL with the Ditty case that he was also a part, he did a really good job. So there's not much negative things to say about him.
Starting point is 04:42:52 But I think that Jam gave a strong opening. I think Jam as a cooperator, yes, you're always going to have the fact that he is a murderer that you could use against him, the fact that he's testifying for a hope to reduce the sentence. But I feel like Jam gave a cohesive story. You know, why are you telling all your man now? man my man was sending me off on some goofy shit
Starting point is 04:43:20 he start devaluing me as a person when I thought he valued me a lot How do we know you're not just saying this to save your own ass Well I confront him I confront him he changed the subject Well why would you get paid To go kill somebody for somebody who was a BD
Starting point is 04:43:39 I ain't no bond like that I was never out in the field with him Okay we got a couple more tweets Here we go Ryan Steel says man, you're one of the highest ranking members of the black disciples, aren't you? You're a minister, right? Ain't that dangerous?
Starting point is 04:44:12 Jam says, nah, not every minister is dangerous. But Steele says, but you are dangerous, though. You're a dangerous man as a minister. Now, you know what I like about Brian Steele's technique? He'll kind of poach around and then he always attacks. When he attacks, you're usually backpedaling, you're off balance, and he goes for the kill until the prosecutor does a bunch of sidebars. or the prosecution fucking tries to objection, objection, or the judge steps in.
Starting point is 04:44:41 Like, he's completely there to obliterate. He has a pit bull style of it. He does have that pit bull style where when he sees blood, he's just waiting for blood to be in that water. He's going to attack. And you got to realize this is a different case than a sex case that was with Diddy, where, you know, he had to kind of be a little bit cautious. He doesn't want to be like, bitch, stop acting like he wasn't with sucking that nigga dick. Like, you see, that would be sound insensitive.
Starting point is 04:45:07 Got to tiptoe a bit, but here is straight murder. He could get to it a little bit quicker. Jam says, I'm not banking on dirt to get a life sentence. Steele says, so you want to go home? No, he says, you want to go home, sir, right? Jam says, yeah, I do want a number. Number meaning that he wants a number in a sentence rather than life in prison. Okay, so life in prison, you'll never get out.
Starting point is 04:45:30 If they tell him 20, they tell him 10, they tell them 5, they tell him 30, at least there's date on the calendar you would get out. Steele says, you have a part. He said, you in part have accused dirt of these crimes, right? Jam says, I just told the truth about him. Still says, the truth is decided by others, right? Right. Hmm.
Starting point is 04:45:55 Still, I got to see how Steele's going to try to crack this one, pause, you know? Jam met with that, you know, he's a dumb nigger, but he met with the prosecutors 30 times. They got him trained. You, like, that's a strong line. They said, you have accused Dirk of a crime. He could have said yes. You know what he said? I told the truth about that man.
Starting point is 04:46:21 Shit like that, that hits. You know, you could have just said yes. But him deciding to say, no, I told the truth. I think that will hit a little bit harder than just saying yes. We'll see. I still think Brian Steele is going to do his thing. Will he completely, I would imagine he's going to take two hours, two, three hours. Will he completely, by the end of his time,
Starting point is 04:46:53 make us feel like, oh, yeah, this is a garbage witness, because that's what he made us feel like when he was examining people in the other cases. He literally took Woody and, well, obviously Woody was also helping the cause as well, but Woody was an odd fact after that. Woody was an odd fact. I don't know if you guys seen Woody has made a couple of videos Kind of chiming in on this He's kind of chimed in on this
Starting point is 04:47:23 Here we go where is it Woody speaks on Dirk Where is that? Is it here? That war that they just took that plea Somebody just took a plea and told a lawyer Hey, all right I think he was on TikTok I think I got a better clip on my Instagram here we go Okay here we go
Starting point is 04:48:05 go. Brian Steele, Drew Fending, all of them, they're going to attack the credibility of OTF Jam. They're going to ask him why is he cooperating against dirt. What is his plea deal? So do he gang anything for what he's doing? Yes, he does. So the jury get to hear that due to the fact that Jam is on the stand saying what he's saying, he has motive to say what he has to say. Now, it's up to the defense, the way that they attack. Now this where we see how good these lawyers is. If Brian still the man, this way he get up there and show his master plan. Brian still, don't let the people down.
Starting point is 04:48:44 Drew Fillingling, don't let the people down. Y'all are the best two lawyers in the world right now. Get up, crap. Because that boy got dirt down bad. It's all you all two lawyers to get dirt out of this jam. The shit, they got real. I believe in, I believe dirt could change, man. I ain't said he innocent or guilty.
Starting point is 04:49:03 So let me tell you Now Woody This is where I got to be honest with you though I think niggas is saying that they feel that Jam's a change man You get what I'm saying? They think Jam's a change man You know you can't have it
Starting point is 04:49:19 You know they say what make you laugh A lot of times will make you cry The idea that Dirk's a changed man Them jurors might look at like Yeah jams are killer but he had changed man too He started talking to Dirk about family. Remember that? Dirk got nine kids. I don't know. Maybe there do exist messages. You know, obviously they did say Dirk pulled this negative aside. I got to see the timeline on that.
Starting point is 04:49:44 Because it sounds like he's telling Dirk like, yo, bro, why you got me crashing out here? Now, I got to imagine that's the counter. Remember the, remember the point that they were trying to say, well, actually, you know, the government made that point. The government made that point that Dirk at one point had pulled OTF Jam to the side and say, yo, bro, you know, these murders are getting it hot. That seems incompatible with, yo, if Dirk tells Jam or confronts him like your bro, your murders are making it hot, why would Jam have to confront Dirk about why are you sending me on dummy missions? That's a little bit incompatible.
Starting point is 04:50:23 We got to find out more info. The government got to talk about that a little bit more. I don't know. You get what I'm saying? right in opening statements or like the first couple um days we found out that supposedly dirk pulled jam in a bathroom and say yo bro you got to stop with these murders nigga you're making a shit hot out here nigga right and then jam is now testifying he by the way he don't even testify to that we haven't heard it yet he ain't he ain't mentioned it on direct i would think we would have heard
Starting point is 04:50:56 about it on direct yo jam so what happened when dirk pulled you in the bathroom What happened? Now, maybe, well, not even maybe, I think, I think still going to bring that up. Still going to bring that shit up. Like, you said that you were asking Dirk about why he's sending you, blah, blah, blah. Let's say that's even a possibility.
Starting point is 04:51:15 Did Dirk ever, ever pull you to the side and say, because you stop doing crime, you are making things uncomfortable. I think, I think Brian Sears is going to do that. If I think, well, I know Brian Seals is as good as I think he is. So anyway. Go. Brian Steele, Drew Findy, all of them,
Starting point is 04:51:33 they're going to attack the crap. Yeah, because those two points are incompatible, chat. Dirk pulls you in the bathroom, tells you to stop doing murders. You're getting the block hot. You claim you FaceTime Dirk confronting him about, man, why you send me on on these missions, I finally got a chance to be a father to my son.
Starting point is 04:51:52 Now, one could think if we're going on with those two train of thoughts and say, oh, no, both could exist. Maybe when he first came out, you know, he did A, B, and C, right? And Dirk was like, chill. But then Dirk's, he only mad, he's not mad that Dirk was sending him on drills.
Starting point is 04:52:07 He mad that Dirk was sending him on dummy missions, because that drill was a stupid mission. It was almost a mission to say, nigga, you might not even come back. So maybe he was saying, nah, nigga, you send me on a dummy mission with a bunch of goofies, like that's crazy. So maybe both could exist.
Starting point is 04:52:28 But I do think that Brian Steele is going to ask about it. I absolutely think, Oh, Ryan Sele will ask about that. Okay. Okay, we are waiting for some more tweets. Yeah, they're in the middle of the back and forth right now. Anytime you don't get an update too quickly, that means some really good shit's going on in court.
Starting point is 04:53:12 Some really good shit. And I got some older videos to kind of figure out what the hell was going on back then. There was a lot of stuff that, you know, sometimes Dirk was on live with these guys and he would do some subtle shit. Little Dirk. Who else was? Especially when he was on. When he was on there with Didi a lot,
Starting point is 04:53:46 IG live. It's a lot of self-snitching. I can't have a lot of you. There's a lot of self-snitching when that was happening. Remember, see, Barney was on this live right here. And I remember this one. And Dirk and other OTF members that were playing cards in Taitown.
Starting point is 04:54:09 Do y'all think Boney now play cards, man? Let me know that. Okay. He didn't get me in the city. Just say, The way G you playing. What you got to say about that? They said Dirk was on.
Starting point is 04:54:27 Oh, they said this was the day that FBG Cash Dodd. Oh, dude. Oh, that's a lot of people use this video to be like, yo, OTFGM was always looking mad on comfortable like he was wearing a wire. Well, let's think about something else. Maybe he's not looking uncomfortable like he's wearing a wire. Maybe he's looking uncomfortable like maybe he just did a murder. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:54:59 What's that? 30,000. You promoted him. Yeah, man. He grabbed him. What he said? Man, this is crazy. For a little bit of that nigga hit me off the bite blood.
Starting point is 04:55:10 The nigga tell me, I ain't you that. I said, y'all can call your mom. I said, hey, who get his dad, dude? He flip you up that bitch, I'd roll over. Armored me with a cast. I'm looking my shit up, I'm like, man, this nigga, boomer, man. He's laughing.
Starting point is 04:55:25 He's mad. I didn't do that. I say, slow and sick. And Keisha. Tell me. Free sheif. Hey, brer, where are you at, folks? You out here?
Starting point is 04:55:46 Hey, brother, what's that you boogers, folks? Come pull up and lose some of that money, nigger. I ain't gonna lie, brother. You sweet as hell on the dice. No. No. What? Oh, my boy.
Starting point is 04:56:03 My boy. He didn't know that. I ain't saying that. You got it on the cars. What you mean? Ask what? On the cars? Now, apparently, let me see.
Starting point is 04:56:20 Okay, so apparently, let me see. You know, OTF Jam basically, like, his story's like, man, I really know Vaughn like that. Now, he did admit that he talked to him once or twice on the jail phone. He said somebody, no. he said he didn't really know Vaughn, but he did talk to him once in jail. Apparently he did an interview where he said different. Did you have a relationship with her? I know.
Starting point is 04:56:59 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know. And when I was in jail, you know what I'm saying? A couple of times. Me and Bobo. One of them are from the town that's locked up. My boy.
Starting point is 04:57:12 You know, we didn't have been on the phone with Vaugh, Vind. And I said my fuck his pictures. He was a real nigga. You know what I'm saying? so that you ain't have to be necessary we have an everyday relationship with you know what I'm not saying now I don't think this contradicts what he says he never said he didn't know Vaughn he just said
Starting point is 04:57:27 Vaughn was in his man's he said that they spoke he testified that he spoke to Vaughn while in jail on the phone he said Vaughn actually requested to talk to him obviously he doing an interview he's trying to get hot he's gonna he gonna he gonna act like he probably knew him even a little bit more than just that but chat we're not going to argue semantics
Starting point is 04:57:59 he clearly knew vaughn or knew of vaughn here's the thing do you have any videos of them hanging out no it ain't like I don't think he used to hang out with it that's the thing about Chicago there's niggas that know of each other
Starting point is 04:58:13 and the niggas who are because it's all clicked up you know who hang with who you know what's damn it out you know what's still blowing my mind is a trenches news interview I did Or no no
Starting point is 04:58:45 Trenches News, yeah And he says Trenches News Is Trenches News saying that Dirk supposedly was in the car To me that's insane Dirk was in the car at the shooting at the gas station
Starting point is 04:59:15 And he said that song Is it risky? Hold on I'm trying to Somebody said he was How do we know that though? Obviously, I'm not down trenches. It's just... That sounds ridiculous to me.
Starting point is 04:59:41 Like a rapper of his stature? Here we go, give me a second. Oh, here we go. Wait, even Traplor... I ain't a lot of Trappelor be knowing a lot of shit. I think that's why he talks like that to trial. It seemed at this point, having faced virtually no consequences personally for the killing of King Von.
Starting point is 05:00:19 Kondo Rondo was getting more and more confident insulting Von and Dirk in his music and capitalizing on the situation. However, all of this was going on whilst his main shooter and protector, the man who had taken Vaughn's life to protect Cuando in the first place, Lil Tim was still behind bars. After being arrested the morning after the Vaughn killing, Tim spent months locked up waiting for an update on his case. And during this period, Lil Tim would call him from jail, seemingly in good spirits, and asking to be sent money. And while Lil Tim is locked up, Cuando would post support for Tim online, saying that he would
Starting point is 05:01:03 rather say free Tim than RIP, indicating that he's still facing legal consequences for the shooting of Von. As the months went by, pictures of Tim. Tim in jail would circulate online. A January 2021 image showed Lil Tim using a jail phone and smiling with his Diamond Grill shining. Eventually, Lil Tim would be released on bail with Jump Out Gang Black and Lil Pab celebrating the release of their 33rd Street brother on Instagram and Twitter. Then, on March the 27th, 2021, Lil Tim's name would begin trending on Twitter as news of his release on Bail spreads, with Kondo even posting on Instagram, God is Home. Then later posting a clip of them celebrating by throwing a bunch of cash in the air. However, Tim and
Starting point is 05:01:39 Cuondo's rivals would still be watching their every move, as Lil Durk and Memo 600 would like the picture, along with NBA Youngboy's biggest enemy, Fredo Bang. However, this pressure didn't stop Tim from showing his face. Soon after the release, Tim would go live on Instagram, but not saying much. But as time goes by... I'll definitely say Tim is fearless. He would get more and more confident and find subtle ways to disrespect his enemies. For example, the month before King Von was killed in October 2020, King Von's ex-girlfriend Asian doll would tweet publicly saying that she only dates killers with three body. or more. Perhaps this was a reference to the fact that when she split up with Von, she allegedly
Starting point is 05:02:13 spent time getting close to NBA Youngboy, who just like Von, has a reputation synonymous with killing. And since we all know that Asian doll loves to date killers, after being released, Lil Tim would hop on social media and shoot his shot, saying openly, somebody tell Asian doll I want her, I heard she only likes killers. The following month on April 12, 2021, Kondo posts on Instagram that he has bought matching iced out Cartier watches for him and Tim. This is perhaps a reference to earlier lyrics and tweets where Cuondo raps that he will give a Rolex to anybody who kills an op, with Lil Tim tweeting back saying that he wants to find out if this is true. But anyway, despite all of the apparent disrespect coming out of 33rd Street,
Starting point is 05:02:50 eventually Cuando Rondo would break his silence about his involvement in the situation that claimed Von's life. In an extended interview with Angeli Yi speaking on the situation, Kondo would break down the events in a much more respectful tone than his earlier song. With Cuando saying that before the fight broke out, he thought King Von's entourage were a group of regular people. saying that he was just trying to let them walk past casually, being surprised when he was suddenly sucker-punched by Vonn. Like, I'm thinking it's some regular individuals. If I would have just tried to walk through them, next thing you know, and hit me. Quando would say that the whole incident felt like an out-of-body experience.
Starting point is 05:03:22 Like, it's like I had an out-of-body experience. Dirk would later troll these comments by Kondo in his own interview where he told Ebro that he wanted his concert to be like an out-of-body experience. It's going to be like an out-of-body experience. Quondo would also claim that the moment the woman came over and started the fight, she felt like the devil was coming to get him. Like, it's like the devil was coming to get me, like... Quondo would also reiterate that Lil Tim was his day one homie that would protect him from anything. He won't think about it, he gonna protect me with anything which anybody should do. He would also say that he prayed when those gunshots were going off.
Starting point is 05:04:01 Lord, please let me make it home. It's like everything went back normal. normal. I look up and I see my partner on the wild. You feel, you shot up. And Kwondo was adamant that he didn't even know that it was King Von he'd been fighting with until the next day. This is on neighborhood, Crip, man. I did not know that with him to the next day. I'm like, I don't want to say, cause I know dude just dropped the tape. Like, was they trying to do something to me? Like, just boost him up or like, what? I don't, ma'am. You just don't know where you just don't know where it can't know.
Starting point is 05:04:36 You have no idea. Despite this attempt at a diplomatic interview, it would seem that the damage had already been done. Having spent months mocking King Von after his death and making light of a supposed a million dollar bounty on his head, Cuando Rondo would remain in danger. And from here, he would have to defend him. Wait, how did Cuando know about the million dollar bounty? We ever thought about that? Was there a backdoor for Dirk?
Starting point is 05:04:57 Or was it just shit going on in the streets at that point? How did he know that Dirk? Now, Dirk didn't offer a million, at least from the conversation we hear about that was in Atlanta. but looked like niggas was taking that to mean, oh, your blood's down to pay a million. Or did Dirk rap that he had a million on somebody's head? Did he rap that? ...himself against a wave of attempts on his life, as those people who loved King Von would seemingly be on the hunt,
Starting point is 05:05:22 state to state with just one objective. Yo, shout to whoever who's gifting subs, man. All my subgifters, man, we love you. Thank you. Appreciate you. Help out of the community. Mind, slide for Von. All right, here we go. It was close to half a year since that fateful night
Starting point is 05:05:45 when King Von lost his life trying to fight Cuondo Rondo. The moment Cuando's close friend Lil Tim pulled the trigger, he set into motion a chain of events that would change their lives forever, with King Vonn, being one of Chicago Drills' most feared killers, as well as a popular rapper. This meant that Cuando Rondo, Lil Tim, and everyone around them would have to defend against wave after wave of assassination attempts, all seemingly connected to the slain Chicago rapper.
Starting point is 05:06:07 On April 16th, 2021, Cuando Rondo denied being shot at and told the world that he rides in a bulletproof truck. That same month, Cuando's latest concert is announced on May 1st, 2021 in Waycross, Georgia. After having his previous shows that were scheduled just weeks after Vaughn's death cancelled, Quando was eager to show his fans, Ops and the World at large that he could travel to country and perform without incident. However, unfortunately for Cuondo, that simply wasn't true. On May the 1st, 2021, Cuondo plays the very show that he was booked to perform at in Waycross,
Starting point is 05:06:36 Georgia. And here he's seen playing to an empty venue, complaining to the crowd that his shows are usually bigger than this. With Cuondo addressing the fans and still thanking them for coming out despite the low turnout. When these images and clips surfaced, Chicago affiliates of Von and Dirk like Mimo 600 would mock Kwondo saying that he must have made a loss on that show. But as the night went on, that show's turnout would be the least of Cuando's worries. As him and his entourage would leave the venue after performing, driving to a Circle K gas station just 11 minutes away in the next town of Blackshire. At around 3.20 a.m. after that show,
Starting point is 05:07:23 Cuando and his team would be in the parking lot of a gas station convenience store in Blackshire, Georgia. Soon after arriving, somebody begun to open fire from across the road, with one man allegedly being hit in the hand and ending up in the hospital. Kondo Rondo would flee the scene before authorities arrived. According to one report, over 100 bullets were fired at Cuando's entourage during this incident. However, members of the public would arrive to the crime scene, beginning to film and posting the footage on social media. With the woman filming, telling viewers that she was on the scene of the Qando shooting and saying that people had heard the gunshots from all the way down the street.
Starting point is 05:07:55 And she would even walk right up to bullet markers where the shell casings had apparently been fired from all the way up the street. Oh my God, it is Quando, y'all. It's got to be. They're talking about it was the rapper that performed at the vibe at the club. They're talking about it with Kwondo. They heard it was, somebody had a bounty on them. I'm like, damn, how the fuck you know? Look how the bullets? Yeah, they got them picking up, bullets.
Starting point is 05:08:24 It was unclear who exactly was responsible for the shooting. Kwondo's ops from Savannah, the gang S-8K or the Section 8 kids, would post seemingly referencing the incident. With a caption saying get-back gang, which if you didn't know is actually another name for King Von's Gang, They posted out of Dirk's song though. With audio from Lil Dirk's song, Hellcats and Trackhawks, that earlier song where Dirk says that he's looking to catch somebody lacking at their show. Now it's unclear whether S-A-K members were taking direct responsibility for the incident or simply celebrating a hit sent from Lil Dirk or Von's crew Get Back Gang. However, a black disciple from Georgia seemingly claimed responsibility for this hit on social media, leading people to believe once again that this was a hit affiliated with Lil Dirk.
Starting point is 05:09:06 naturally due to his extensive affiliations with the Black Disciples street gang, of which King Von was indeed a prominent member. Lil Pab also tweeted after this incident, brushing off the shooting and telling his ops to enjoy life and not let one person stress them out so much, and going on to post a picture of himself alive and well the following day. Kondo would seemingly address the threats against his life in a later interview, also brushing off the danger and saying that he doesn't care about death threats
Starting point is 05:09:31 because he's always armed. Death threat all you want to, man, bro. That's just some work. words, my... Do be an action. Right. You feel me? I'm going home to my daughter.
Starting point is 05:09:43 Right. And if I didn't, God called me. Right. But I'm going on to my daughter bit, bro. I ain't... I'm not even the type of person to move without if I... Rumors would later circulate that Lil Tim was also injured in this shooting. Now, whether or not that's true, it was clear that Lil Tim suffered a serious injury
Starting point is 05:10:00 being shot numerous times during the altercation with King Von. A couple of months after that shooting at the gas station, in August 2021, Lil Tim would post a sobering picture to Instagram, revealing that due to his gunshot wounds, he's having to use a colostomy bag, but still giving thanks for the fact he's still alive. It's unclear whether or not this injury was from the Waycross shooting, the shootout with King Von, or even a previous shootout in Savannah. But regardless, it was clear that Cuando and Lil Tim were continuing to pay the price
Starting point is 05:10:26 for this beef with King Von. But that didn't stop Cuando from continuing to push his career forward. On May the 7th, 2021, Quando releases his sixth mixtape still taking risks, his first full-length release since the killing of King Vaughan. And this project would be laced with references to the incident, as well as the consequences. Quando would rap about having a million dollar bounty on his head and the opening track Blue Man. He would also mock King Von on tracks like Red Eye, saying that he's smoking a dead guy
Starting point is 05:10:51 and catching homicides with Timmy. There's also a line on that track where he says that he's signed to NBA and rapping, if he loves that girl, make sure he never sees her again. seemingly a reference to King Von essentially dying as a result of his girlfriend Asian doll, creating a love triangle between Von and Youngboy, with Kondo going on to disrespect King Von's crew getback gang saying, there ain't no getbacks. Kondo also says that he has shooters doing murders for only $1,500,
Starting point is 05:11:16 and that he wants to kill all of his oaks one by one until he gets to the top dog. Perhaps another reference to a desire to take out Lil Durk, as he depicted in his music video for the song Soul Reaper. And Kondo even ends this song by mocking Lil Durk for linking up with Young Boy's enemies like Fredo Bang, as well as saying that Lil Tim got out of jail and got straight back to shooting. Even mocking Von saying that Timmy busted Von's head because he got caught without his gun. There's also the song Drop Some, where Kondo reiterates that he didn't even realize that it was a beef with Von the night he got shot, and saying that he has bullets for a wrestler, another reference to Von trying to fight the night he got killed.
Starting point is 05:11:50 Kondo also rapped saying that his young and is quick to make a rapper bleed. Elsewhere on the track Devil on My Shoulder, he shouts out Timmy saying he will shoot for him. but perhaps most notably was the track Purple Baby, the song where Kondo extensively disses his dead

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