DJ Akademiks Live Streams - Roc Nation & Meg Thee Stallion did a 7 HOUR Deposition with me. Drake Secret Kid Finally Revealed.

Episode Date: August 24, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:58 All right, let me go to King Academics. See what's popping up there. I think we're just loading it. Okay. Starting to ramp up. There we. you go you say you would be at lunch rings it what's up what's your bro wolf what up i'm just waiting for the chat to pop up on screen that that's usually when we're kind of good to go it should pop up in a second
Starting point is 00:01:32 yo tiana i think i'm saying your name right yo they're harassing me i wanted to stream yesterday um i showed up for a deposition i told him i had two hours i had other things planned i had a stream plan and they were giving me to run around. They couldn't tell me how long they wanted to interview me for. They were like, we're entitled basically because of the federal district court. We could get seven hours to the point. I said, fuck it, let's do it today. They wanted to bring me back multiple times.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Like, I get what it was. You know what I mean? Like, this was a little sci-up, a little sci-up from Rock Nation. This is a Rock Nation play. I'm going to be honest with you. This is my personal opinion, like most of them. guard. So yesterday I did a whole deposition for, in the case of Milagro Cooper, which is Milagro Grams that you guys know her or might know her as, versus Megan Pete or Megastalian,
Starting point is 00:02:32 which some of you might know her as. Or some people might call her Bigfoot. That's not me, though. That's them bars. Okay. Anyway, they're going through a civil case. They're accused Malagra Cooper of defamation. And because, and this is my opinion, because Meg is signed to Rock Nation, Rock Nation, I've told you, it's one of the scummiest places. Like, they have a lot of things in access to grind in my opinion. Like, for example, they don't like Drake. They don't like this.
Starting point is 00:03:02 They don't like that. And they're finding ways to try to get dirt on everybody. Everybody. Like, in this particular defamation case, I haven't spoken on text messages with Milagro in probably over a year, maybe two. We don't text. We met one time in person, we did a podcast. We've had a professional relationship,
Starting point is 00:03:22 but it's barely been any communication yet. They were insistent on trying to drag me into this, not necessarily, I believe, for that, but because of other, you know, maybe cross-collateralize goals that they might have. Anyway, I think they knew two-fold what was going to happen. Maybe they thought they could get some, information for me or get me to say stuff that whatever fit their agenda but i think they knew you get
Starting point is 00:03:48 act up in there i got a big mouth they ain't nothing secret with me they ain't nothing secret with me okay so so you ain't got away for the transcript when it comes to act um so first and foremost and i know some people say yo what are those videos that i've seen you post and yes i have you know put up some videos. Where are they from? We've seen this whole thing. I plan on release in the entire deposition. It's not exactly seven hours we did from 10 to 5, but there was multiple breaks in
Starting point is 00:04:20 between. So I don't know how long that turns. I think it turns out to be like five and a half or something. I can't release it at the moment fully. I am going to play some of it. I'm not going to release it at the moment fully because I was made aware. that there are, or I was introduced or privy to some, quote, quote, discoverable materials that's in that case, that's under protective order.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Obviously, and I told them, there is recording cameras in the room that I'm sitting in. It was going to be recorded. Like everything is, every stream. I have surveillance cameras back there. There's nothing that I'm doing that's not going to be recorded. for my safety and everybody else. But I also want to be, you know, respectful. So I would probably have to edit out and the lawyer for Meg the Stallion.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And I'm going to say Slash Rock Nation because you're going to notice some other attorneys hop in there. And it's going to be very interesting. But we're going to get to that. So first and foremost, I plan to put it out. Okay. they try to ask all type of questions. Like everything they've asked, and maybe that's why people are scared of depositions.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I've told you how old this shit. I don't give it. You get what I'm saying? So there's nothing that I'm hiding from in terms of information. And to be honest, like if it could have been live stream, I would have live streamed yesterday if you ask me, right? Of course, they try to get into certain details. Yo, how much you get paid?
Starting point is 00:05:54 How much you do this? How much blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, and all that type of stuff. The deposition was a fish and expedition, if you ask me. They wanted to know about Nikki Minaj. Does, you know, they wanted me to, I could tell. They wanted me to make a statement on the record that Nicky Minaj pays for promotion or maybe music promotion or blogs. Or, well, let's not say blogs, me.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Have, like, but that would be asinine. I've never liked Nikki. Nikki's never like me, you know? But they wanted, they wanted to get, I could tell they have a, whatever agenda they have versus Nikki, they're operating on, right? So they're like, let's see if Acnos is. anything and they try to because Meg the Stallion versus a blogger has nothing to do with Nick
Starting point is 00:06:35 Minaj. Yet they ask about Nicki Minaj. Yet they brought up Drake multiple times. Yet they asked if Drake has paid me. When Drake is not the subject, he's not defendant. He's not that I know any party to this damn case that their claim is defamation
Starting point is 00:06:51 about blogger. Then they got into a part when they said it's like it wasn't even a deposition at that point. It was like two people are getting in the room. It's like she wanted me to basically say that Meg didn't lie. And I'm like, no, no, I believe she's a liar because I have seen her lie and I've heard her admit to lying. What more do I need to deem a person a liar? Well, the jury believed her. Why you don't believe? Like, man, shut the fuck up. Now, I'm going to be honest with you. I want to let you know how this is a
Starting point is 00:07:25 top law firm. Jay Z, you know, Quinn and Manuel, that's the law firm. And by the way, I went toe to toe with him. No lawyer with me. I was just there. I'm just there weighing in it. You feel me? If you want to know who are these people, this is a court reporter type in. This is the main lawyer that is operating from Quinn Emanuel on this particular case for Megan Pete. This lawyer here, which you're going to see how interested it is, because we got their names. We could Google them. You know, Google them. She works at Quinn Emanuel. Matter of fact, let's Google them. Okay. Let's Google them now, actually. Let's Google them. Because they have a good time Googling me, they brought up 20 different articles that they said I was associated with, right?
Starting point is 00:08:02 So let's see if we can flip this script. Let's see what's going on, right? So this young woman on the right, which she wasn't there, but I noticed, I noticed anytime I started to speak, well, I started to speak and I brought up, I said, well, labels like Rock Nation. And I was like, hey, listen, I know what law from you guys are. They bring this woman. and she pops on screen. I'm like, huh? Let's Google who she is. Let's Google it. She is. I got everybody's name. I got everybody's name. Marie, this is her right here. Let's go to her Instagram, shall we? This is her right here. Team Rock, and this is her. What's Team Rock? By the way, she's an associate of Quinn Emmanuel in the Los Angeles office. She joined into Team Rock. What the
Starting point is 00:09:03 fuck is team rock oh okay okay team rock probably don't have to look too far to figure out what team rock is okay um don't have to look too far to see what team rock is okay we don't have to look too far we don't have to look too far but anyway remember by the way i i i asked them because they they wanted to clarify some things up front do you know who day star peterson is i said know him as tory I said, but I'm confused. I thought this was a case to having to do with Milagro Graham's, aka Malagro Cooper versus Megan Pete, aka Meg the Staliant.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Why are you saying if I'm familiar with Daystar Peterson? Is he a defendant? Is he a co-defendant? No. But they just wanted to ask about it the whole time. Who else? Who else did they ask about? Oh, so I tell them, I say,
Starting point is 00:10:09 well, Rock Nation's name keep coming up. Are they involved in this? And they're like, oh, they're not a plaintiff. It's only Megan Pete. But clearly, it's the same office that works involved. All right. So I'll start off by there, right? So we have Bigak, lawyer, who thinks she's like,
Starting point is 00:10:33 I don't know who she thinks she is. Then this is another lawyer. She's like the exhibit girl. and then she's the rock nation like whatever and then there's bunch of other lawyers they're all in there like I can see the chat they're all in there I can imagine whatever and this is the good old court reporter
Starting point is 00:10:50 I believe her name is Annette she's a really nice lady okay she told me to slow down a few times I was speaking too fastly okay but it's all good she's a great woman now before I get to it and by the way again because I got a piece of how I could even play this I gotta piece it up because I don't want to you know cognizantly and I would never disrespect the court So even though it wasn't told to me by a judge, it was told to me in a deposition proceeding that certain exhibits that they would show me, whether it be text messages that they received from turned over cell phones or whatever, those particular things are under a protective order.
Starting point is 00:11:26 So I can't show you those things, guys. I can't and I won't. And even though I just have raw footage that I'll be able to go back to, I have to make sure and I'm going to do my utmost best because I don't want to show those things. think there anyway, I'm going to be honest. But I want to make sure in me showing you guys, and by the way, I told them, I said, hey, listen, I understand what a protective order is, but if you asked me a question, did you walk your dog today? I definitely plan to go online and tell them, you ask me if I walked my dog today. So questions and conversations that doesn't seem to contain privileged material that you're presenting to me, those things I am absolutely fin of going.
Starting point is 00:12:08 This ain't secret. You ain't about to, y'all ain't about to, Rod Nation, you ain't about to kill me in secret. You gotta kill me in public. I'm sorry, okay? And I'm saying that tongue in cheek, tongue of your cheek. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Anyway. So, that happens. But before I get to, I'm going to start playing a few things that maybe you guys would care about. I ain't going to lie. Rock Nation might have sent the B squad, man. Yo,
Starting point is 00:12:36 they might send the B squad at the boy. Y, y'all going to send the squad. might want to send the A Okay, might want to send the A squad The A squad going to be the squad All right Because also I'm thinking Why y'all want to put me in a deposition
Starting point is 00:12:51 When you know I have the biggest mouth In hip hop history, pause That sounded crazy, huh? Okay, let's just put this up to you like that And that like that and like that Okay, now first and foremost So after our five Hour 5, you know, I'm doing my little thing
Starting point is 00:13:09 I got, you know, I had a little bit of essential water. I had a little bit of essential water. I came out with a plate, like a cookout, start eating, wash it down with some gatorade, you know, boring me a little bit, so of course, had to, you know what I mean, go get a little cup of, you know what I mean, some essential. And it didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Still as sharp as, I was still sharp as a knife. So we get to about like hour five. They're hoping I'm exhausted. I could tell. You see, these motherfuckers work on the clock. They're trying to get out of here. I'm like, we got content. I'm good
Starting point is 00:13:40 Nick I canceled my day We got bomb tent We're here We're here Don't you worry I knew you niggies Are doing some fuck shit All I had to do was just sit back
Starting point is 00:13:51 And let y'all expose yourselves And expose your angles That's I've been waiting for this moment Because when I tell every nigga in the industry That Rock Nation be doing all the type of fuck shit They're like, what are you talking about? Jay Z's a good guy I'm like I ain't saying nothing about Jay Z
Starting point is 00:14:03 That company, they're only on fuck shit So I'm sipping but you know, still sharp as a knife. Anyway, it gets to one point. This is hour five. They're exhausted. They're exhausted.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Yo, big act is... Listen, chat, I could stream for 12 hours talking to myself. You think five attorneys gonna get me? Nigger, I'm talking their ear off. Yo, they get so tired. Remember, they're working on the hour. Each of these lawyers, like a big law firm like this, they might be getting 1,000 an hour, 1,500 an hour,
Starting point is 00:14:38 just do the math. Look how many lawyers they got on here and just say a thousand. Let's say everyone's getting a thousand an hour. We all spent seven hours, seven hours, $7,000 per person, Meg and Rock Nature, whoever,
Starting point is 00:14:55 probably spent about $21,000 to talk to me and don't worry, I felt we got content. So I'm good with it. I'm good with it because I was like, damn, the lawyer's getting paid. I'm going to get paid out of this. We got bomb tent. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:15:10 So our five chat, they're exhausted. They don't like working too long. They got, I clocking for a good 24. I'm good. So they asked to put up an exhibit and say, hey, exhibit girl, because you put up an exhibit that we want to show act. They fucked up. Shorty, instead of putting up the exhibit, shows her screen.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And I see the chat. I see the chat of the conversation happening. With the lawyers. Oh, oh. You want to see? By the way, when that happened, I had a nice smirk on my face. I said, I made a little timestamp. Don't worry, I'm going back to it.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Here's a screenshot here. Bang! Quinn Emmanuel, look at this. Y'all don't fuck up now. Oh, they put up the wrong thing. Y'all don't fucked up now. Look at all these motherfuckers. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Look, I don't know why they're talking about OVO. What is OVO? I don't know why Quinn Emanuel in their slack. I think this is slack. It's saying O-V-O. I don't know. Then the other one says, Marie, good?
Starting point is 00:16:20 I got more than we thought we would on that. Just make sure you're sharing the right screen. So she did it once. And the other ones are saying, yo, you shared the wrong screen. Like, you got to get, come on. Like, we're getting paid 1,500 an hour. We got to do this right.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Mech, yo, we're bleeding Meg's pockets. Let's come with some results. Okay? That, you know, they did it again. Watch this. This is not what I was getting on their skin chat. Look at this shit chat. Look, I'm talking to air off.
Starting point is 00:16:54 They said, if he won't shut the fuck up, I'm never getting through this. Yeah, I had a lot to say. Yeah, I had a lot to say. Yeah, I had a lot of motherfucking things to say. I had a lot to say. I had a lot to say. Told my phone, shut the fuck up. you ain't getting through this.
Starting point is 00:17:07 You ain't gonna get through this. Keep building Magnostalian and Rock Nation. I got a lot to say. Now, me, we got, no, listen, yo, but today, Cah, I had Tom. I had Tom, Cah. I had Tom Cah. Look.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Look, she just fucking shared our slack. Atlanta, they're trying to fire you. You're the black girl over there. She was a black girl. So the black girl was the exhibit girl. She accidentally shared the shit, and they stopped having her share the shit. Then the lawyer, or, well, they're both lawyers.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Then the other lawyer tried to share it. Then she did the same thing. So, yo, Atlanta, you're a black girl. I saw you laughing a couple of my jokes. I know you over there with the bad people. You're over there with that side. But it's okay. I know you're trying to get your check.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Okay? Get it and get out. Marie, team rock. What the fuck? Un fucking believable. Here's the interesting part. Tell Des. By the way, I post.
Starting point is 00:18:05 We had a break. I told him I wouldn't be on my phone while I'm answering questions. But these lawyers, they couldn't either hold their bladder or they all needed food. I think somebody did number two or something while we were doing it. They're like, yo, we need some more time. We got to go to the bathroom. I'm like, damn. Yo, what y'all got in the cafeteria up there at the Rock Nation lawyer offices?
Starting point is 00:18:24 They could hold their bladders. Break after break after break. So on one of the breaks, I posted. Yo, they're asking me crazy shit up in here about Drake everybody. Listen, I'm a snitch. I'm going to tell the world. Look what she says. And this is where I realize we got you.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Y'all are liars. Tell Des. If you're the lawyer for Megan Pete, why would you need to tell Desk? Who's Desk? The only does that I know, and I could be wrong. Desiree Perez, the co-founder and chief executive office of Rock Nation.
Starting point is 00:19:02 So you did this. So with y'all sitting there with me for seven hours claiming that y'all had zero zero affiliation and and that yes even if y'all did represent rock nation this is the meg the stallion thing my conduct in that deposition y'all are in a internal chat reporting go tell rock nation CEO this academics is posting about the deposition come on gang come on when i when i tell y'all that rock nation desire prezzi in my belief in lining the whole industry up and everything even to Meg the Staly and the Hallie Bailey's of the world.
Starting point is 00:19:42 If you connect it to Rock Nation, trust me, they're cooking up some type of poisonous secret sauce to get your ass. Y'all think I'm lying. Well, here it is in 4K. The lawyers of Megan the Stallion, because I posted, yo, I posted a story saying, yo, I'm in this deposition. They're asking about Drake. she says tell des
Starting point is 00:20:06 I said he couldn't get to the end of the depot without posting about it all these names you know it'll be interesting to figure out who these people are Kayla Fleming Julian Schoam Joseph Bashi
Starting point is 00:20:24 they're probably pretty good they're probably pretty good guys I have nothing wrong with Quinn Emanuel but I could tell that Rock Nation is a puppeteer pulling them strings that's not Auntie Alchette this particular deposition I'm not a defendant
Starting point is 00:20:38 I'm not an involved party. They claim that I might have discoverable evidence. That's why they have subpoenaed me. And the subpoena required me to do a deposition that they should have been asking me about my knowledge of any information that could help or hurt the defendant or the plaintiff. And the people they asked me about was people like Nikki Minaj, Drizzie Drake. Hey, did Drake ever pay you? Did he ever do this?
Starting point is 00:21:06 Who is Grand Wizard Chat nigger? What else they asked me? Well, they asked me everything. But, yeah, I didn't focus on the case. They asked me mostly about Tori. It's a little bit odd to me. But anyway, if anyone, you know, because sometimes people think I'm a cool.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Like, yo, black, you're just making shit up. In the deposition for Meg, they're saying tell Desiree. And by the way, chat, even with a little bit of, you know, essential water in my system, five hours in, I spotted that mistake. It was on the screen for three seconds. I'm mentally timestamped it. I got it.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I got it. Yo, let me the Slack channel. I want to be up in the Slack channel. I can't get in here. Yo, they ain't going to let me the Slack channel, though. So they can't, they ain't going to let me in the Slack channel. I want to be up in there with Marie. Marie, bad.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I want to be up in there with her. I want to be up in there with her. Look at this. Anyway, so let me see what I can't share. Let me see what I can't share. These people, man, these motherfucking people, man. Hey, how you doing? Oh, you want to see I pulled up?
Starting point is 00:22:31 So I pulled up, chat. I haven't been going to cap with you, chat. This is how I pulled up. This is how I started. This is I pulled up. Hey, Mr. Allen. Hey, how you doing? Do you hear me?
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yeah, can you hear me okay Okay, okay? Okay, great So we're gonna get Started and ready to go Food was banging Amazing Oh in a couple
Starting point is 00:22:59 You know my mama here, right? My mom made some shit Oh my God A couple minutes, I don't know if the videographer Or the court reporter have Just some sort of So of Atlanta
Starting point is 00:23:11 I could tell us This chick hey know you Because I can see I know you see the two because she's talking shit You made a mistake She made the same mistake But she over here cuss you on like you ain't shit
Starting point is 00:23:21 I heard I should talk to you If they fire you up there I got you as general counsel of the academy I need you over here I need a black queen over here man I need a black queen I need a black queen as general counsel Of the academy
Starting point is 00:23:33 Okay So if they fire you or they play games with you Just get at me But it's awfully lasts for 90 days Because other than that I'm gonna think that Jay Z sent you And there's a mole to back door me Okay I gotta be honest
Starting point is 00:23:44 I gotta be honest Okay, anyway. It's for you before we start, okay? Yes, sir. First, could you give me your full legal name, sir? Limson Island. All right. Anyway, there's a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:58 So they do a lot of talking, a lot of talking, a lot of talking. And then they start asking about, yo, what do you do, you stream? What's the dirt? Of course I'm going to make content out of this. You made this whole day. And any other little niggins that want to get me in depositions? Trust me. I'm making content.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Because I got nothing to hide. I probably said more online that I've probably said in private anyway. So the fucking thing I'm like, oh, hope that doesn't come out. Bring it out. That me. Well, at least at first. And then we missed that date, but whatever. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And that was. All right. I got to skip through this. I'm just asking if that individual runs the account. Oh, they was on grand was this. I swear I swear. I'm just asking
Starting point is 00:24:52 if that individual runs the account who does run the academics TV accounts? Ran by multiple people but my close friends does run it. His name is Grand Wizard. He runs that. Grand Wizard chat, nigger. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Grand Wizard chat. What? Nigger. Okay. You spell that, Nick? I didn't get that. Now, I thought it was playing with me. What you mean?
Starting point is 00:25:20 Spell, nigger. What you mean? You know what that? Come on. Stop playing with me. I had to get it right. Last part of the name. Huh?
Starting point is 00:25:27 Spell the last part of the name? Look, even a black girl was like, hold on now. Hurry. Even a black girl was like, hold on now. Hold on. Hey, Atlanta. Atlanta. I don't know if I'm saying your name wrong.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Them white people up there, I can see. Yo. Even a black chick was like, wait, hold on now. What the fuck? What we doing? What we doing? Yo, she on her Anthony Fantano shit. Close friends does run it.
Starting point is 00:25:59 His name is Grand Wizard. He runs that. Grand Wizard chat, nigga. Keep watching shirt in the left right here. I fuck wear her. Grand Wizard chat. What? Nigger.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Nig. Okay. You spell that? You spell it? Oh, nah. This is that Jim Crow shit right here. Hold on now. We're gonna do it.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I didn't get that last, the last. Look at my face. Look at her. It's black, yo, you see, black people got a shared consciousness. Even though she's over there working with, with venoming them, she knows what it is. What you mean? Like, come on, come on, come on, bit. Like, you're playing out.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You're playing now. You're playing now. You're playing. Look, both our faces say the same thing. Look at our face. is bit what look at her face look at her face her face is like let me just keep milking desiree perez meg the stallion and motherfucking shorn carter we over here like should we call dr oomar might need some bread i don't know if you're going to come over here i don't know if
Starting point is 00:27:09 dr umar going to come over here who do we call where we find some racism now if we feel like this is about to be some racism who is the number one person who is the number one person who is the number one person we gonna call because she was giving a look too. Yeah, she knew what it was. Who were we gonna call? I don't know who we call. Okay, anyway. For the name.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Are we spelling the NIGGA or? I got to let me know it's NIGGA. You feel me? I don't know if she was trying to figure out if it was an ER type of situation. I didn't hear clearly. That's why. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Is Grand Wizard chatting? It's all one word. And I think, you know, for purposes of this... With the A, not the E.R. Understood. Look, see? Clock it. Clock it, girl.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Clock it. Clock it, girl. Clock it. Clock that shit, girl. She know what it is? You know what it is, man? Stop playing. Stop playing.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Clot that shit. Facts. We're calling Turing the sheet if this shit went left. Feel me? Yeah. I had to make it known on the record. It was an A, not an ER. Relax.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Relax. Relax. Call dego. We're gonna call somebody. Here we go. But. Yeah, you could tell. Nah, I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I'm fucking a shirt. I ain't fucking a shirt. I'm fucking a shirt. I'm fucking shirty. Still. I'll take raffle drinks. I'll take raffle drinks. I'll take ral for drinks.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Come on now. This one over here. Man, do your hair, bro. Do your hair shuddy. All, come on, man. Get right, man. Get right, man. Get right, man.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Get right. Come on. Let's get the game. But I think you find if I just call him Grand Wizard or Grand Wizard chat. We could use that. I'll be comfortable if you use that, yes. Yeah, I'd be comfortable. Because if you start saying a nigga up in here, we might have a problem.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I know y'all work for Rock Nation. But there might be a problem up in here. This deposition might stop getting deposed. Facts. Okay. Great. that's what I feel most comfortable I say
Starting point is 00:29:24 How did you first enter? You see that? Look, she gave That was a racism. Like bitch, I knew he was racist the whole time in the office, man. It's all good. Backed with the individual who runs the Grand Wizard chat
Starting point is 00:29:35 account. He was a supporter. He was a huge support of mine. Going back for probably over 10 years and I've always you know embraced the audience as you guys helped me build a platform.
Starting point is 00:29:48 The platform belongs to you as well. so he's kind of done his thing and built up a great meme page and you know kind of you know utilize the fact that we had an audience provided related content built up his page and then eventually at at a certain point we you know I was saying hey listen I got to do a million things I got to stream I got to do these I got to do business call okay I'm not going to play everything listen grants my man y'all know grants my man okay I'm trying to get so.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Oh, I don't know if I can show everything. I'm trying to skip through. So they show my Instagram page. They could do, become members and also. Okay, so they started asking me about money. They say, how do you make money? Say, bro, I'm a streamer. I work with labels.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I have other businesses, but you probably only care about the businesses online. And they only did. And it was mostly about, okay, well, I work with, I work in a music business, you know, and I am a entertainer. Right? So I'm explaining the streaming. It could be memberships, donations, whatever. So there could be donations.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Yeah, okay. So I'm explaining what streaming is to them. Then we get to me and said, hey, listen, we have a new artist. They're assigned to this. So, and by the way, listen, I'm not one of them niggas who would be like, like these people who be active. Nobody used to get on Adam about that. Yo, listen, I'll tell you I'll promote artists. And I tell you how I get paid.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I get paid for consultancy. I get paid. I work in the music business. I'm telling you all this now. there's no secret. I promote, I consult, I help out in any capacity to help a label.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Right now, there's a hot artist. I don't want to mention this name. I want you to connect no dots. Him and his label don't fell out. They're at the point where lawyers are getting involved. I just got involved in a situation. I'm trying to make that situation amiable.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Both sides only respect me. They don't want to talk to each other. All right, cool. I'm going to play marriage counsel. I'm trying to get you out together that y'all could get the records out, that the contract could be fulfilled. There's going to be a fee for that.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I'm sorry. I've always said that. Like, Beth, what do you think I am? Jayce is the biggest capitalist. Nobody got a problem with him. So, like, nigga, I'm got a hot what I do. I can tell you how the fuck. This record label that we have signed,
Starting point is 00:32:00 and we wanted them to get some positive press for music. So I negotiated an amount, and they got some Instagram coverage. Okay. So they're asking about that. Now that they start asking some dumb shit. I'm sorry, Mr. Allen. You can continue.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Oh. I have been as well Can't tell you what Can't tell you And it probably wasn't directly Like okay I have So they start asking me
Starting point is 00:32:33 Well who have paid you To promote that shit Now granted They really just want to get names That they could Like because this is gonna be posted This is another thing This is gonna be posted
Starting point is 00:32:45 The transcript is gonna be posted publicly They wanted to be like Act is in a deposition saying that Drake pays for promotion That's what they want Now if it was the truth I would say it, but it ain't the truth. Here's the thing with this lawyer who I had to ask her like towards the end.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Have you really been in court? Because like you seem like more emotionally arguing than actually like trying to factually say something or factually ask something or get to the facts. You almost seem like you want to testify more than me because she would try her best to elicit certain answers. And here we go about the idea of paying for promo. Empire music distribution, they're independent, also create their independent. However, oh, so, so I was basically telling them
Starting point is 00:33:30 every label I work with. Like, nigg ain't a label I ain't work with. But I hope you get the trip. Okay, I'm gonna go back a little. You've pimped. And I've said that. I've pimmed the record industry. I'm very proud of it. The music industry.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Oh, yeah. Do you remember talking about that? Yeah, well, I don't remember it specifically, but if I said that, it was more of their labels, whether with their knowledge or not. So who are the 10 artists that you were thinking of in that moment that you could tell somebody? It probably was artists that was maybe not getting along with.
Starting point is 00:34:05 So whatever artists that might have issues with me at the time, I was letting the audience know that this is a very interesting situation when we're going back and forth because I've done business with their label and most likely for them. And usually at times I've had to turn down. own business because I've gotten into it with an artist just out of integrity. For example, um, me and an artist named D Savage, we weren't getting along. They try to pay. By the way, I try to not name drop people. They wanted me to name drop big name. I could tell. I try to not name drop people because again, I want people to take these headlines and run with it. And I'm not trying
Starting point is 00:34:45 to embarrass no artists, by the way. You feel me? I'm just, I'm just keeping up being. I say this on my stream, too. Pay me to do things or pay me to put things up. That could possibly help promote his music, but his money was no good with me because this is someone I'm not getting along with. Right. And it would look very confusing if I am promoting someone for money. I'm promoting someone that I'm not seen eye with. So that's the type of, you know, example I was trying to make. Obviously, the number 10.
Starting point is 00:35:16 There wasn't like, okay, I have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, you know. but I hope you get the trip the court reporter was mad at her a whole time. I can't hear you to promote one of their music that we have. I can't hear you. Are there any other record labels
Starting point is 00:35:39 that you haven't already told me about this morning that have paid you to promote one of their artists? That pretty much encapsulates all of them, right? I said UMG, Sony, Warner,
Starting point is 00:35:55 those are the three record labels that control how. 85% of all actively. And by the way, I think everybody knows this, right? Like, there's no secret that's happening here where you're like, oh my God, I've worked with, I've worked with, I've worked with InterScope, I've worked with Republic,
Starting point is 00:36:10 I've worked with, I've worked with everybody. Like, what the fuck? I've worked with Def Jam. I've worked with a lot. You feel me? Like, I've, I've worked with Atlantic. Like, if you're breaking news, thinking that, you know, or think I'm about like, like, be lying about oh, I've never worked with labels? No.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I love working with labels. They've been a part of my business for a good while. We recorded and stream music currently. So if those are the big three, everybody falls below them, whether it's, yeah, I don't necessarily need to point out a particular label or not because that's their parent company. And then I say even independent companies are so, or so to speak, independent companies like Rock Nation. Every time I said Rock Nation, yo, every time I said Rock Nation, she didn't like it. She didn't like the Rock Nation name drop. Because here's the thing, and this is what I was trying to say and state on the record.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Now I stated on the record in the deposition in court and I stayed on stream. Rock Nation like every other label. They scummy. They do weird shit. They pay for shit. I'm not saying Rock Nation doesn't do other things that other labels don't do. One thing I'll say that they do do do do, that I don't see other labels do or do successfully, is that they basically act like they use the cultural capital of Jay-Z.
Starting point is 00:37:25 and what seemed to be, oh, we're like the home team, and then they completely obliterate competition and also fuck up everybody else who are competitive artists who don't align with their goals. That's my issue. That's always been my issue of Rock Nation. But they're the regular label. Now, clearly she wants me to say,
Starting point is 00:37:48 oh, Nikki's label or Drake's label pays for shit, but it's only them. No, nigga, everybody paid for shit. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't care who it is. And that's what I'm saying. The major three, UMG, Sony, Warner, and then we have the independence.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And the independents are going to be Rock Nation, so to speak. And I'll explain what I mean about, so to speak here. Why did you say so to speak when you were referring to Rock Nation? Because usually most what we call independent companies, they fold up under what we call a major. And the majors are Sony. Warner Music Group Also Universal Music Group
Starting point is 00:38:30 The reason why I say so to speak with Rock Nation Because I could name other record labels That are independent Empire's independent Empire music distribution They're independent Also create their independent However the reason why I say
Starting point is 00:38:47 So to speak with Rock Nation is because Rock Nation from what I've seen As a conglomerate that's owned by I believe Sean Carter, Jay-Z, along with Live Nation, and Live Nation is going through numerous antitrust litigation by the Department of Justice, I believe, because they're actually being accused of being a monopoly. So, yeah, I don't know if you could be an independent company
Starting point is 00:39:11 when you're 50% owned by, like, the Amazon of music companies. You get what I'm saying? So that's why I said, so to speak. Oh, now they start asking, Yo, shout out to Shrude, man. I like her face. Pause. Well, not pause.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Can't hear you. Have you ever been paid by 1501 to promote any of their artists? 15. That's Meg's like former label. 01. Okay, okay. That is Meg the Stallion's or former label. I can't, I can't recall.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I can't recall. I do believe I. What about? I've got, but I think I probably did. They had a girl afterwards. I think they have paid for Meg. And this is me, like, again, I'm just kind of, because I thought about that question. I think 15-01, not directly.
Starting point is 00:40:09 15-0-1 paid for Meg's promotion earlier in her career. Or especially early on, these artists are going to go through me. Like, I'm keeping it to be. I think 15-0-1, not directly, but through 300 that paid for Meg. And then they paid for, there was another girl that was like Meg-Lite. And I don't disrespect her, but I forgot what her name was. I forgot what her name was. I think they might have got paid for stuff for her too.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I'm sorry. And by the way, here's the thing. This is what litigation going to break. You see, all this shit? Yo, you heard what Drake said the darkest secrets are coming to light? I got no problem with them. This ain't secrets for me. These are secrets for these artists who act like they just got hot all of a sudden.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So y'all can have me in a million deposition. I will sit there and spell out for every single artist who paid and who didn't. I will tell y'all niggas. Oh, yeah. I ran that budget up. What are you talking about? So I give no fucks. I do believe I've gotten paid to promote Meg Stalian.
Starting point is 00:41:01 She's a major artist. Oh, look at her face. Look at her face. Look at her face. I get it. It's like she was trying to basically say someone other than Meg. Sorry. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:41:27 My memory only remembers. I'm sorry. I'll be right back. Let me get some essential. I can't play without me being here because there's a protective order on certain exhibits. The reason why this is important for this. be seen. You know why this is important to be seen, chat? I'm going to tell you why. Because since we're in litigation time and everybody's suing, I got no problem with y'all.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Everybody file y'all lawsuits. It's all good. Just know, academics is volunteering to show up to any deposition y'all got. Just remember, when I start telling the truth and it don't align with what you wanted to hear, that might be a problem. That might be a problem. I'm just, trying to tell y'all this. I will show up to y'all that position. I got no problem. By the way, I could easily duck this. Processed server showed to my house three times.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Last time I said, open the gate, let him in. Open the gate, let him in. Just look at that facial expression chat. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Saabaw. side bar
Starting point is 00:43:48 oh she now falls up under warner but even at that time going through 300 I know we had a relationship with 300 in that promotional aspect so facts um I believe I believe I have been as well can't tell you what can't tell you
Starting point is 00:44:06 and it probably wasn't directly like no Meg nor 1501 I don't think 1501 ever we've never invoiced them so I I can't. I can't say they've like, here, here's this amount to promote Meg. But have we promoted Meg for money? Of course.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Of course! Regular, this is a music business. That's what I keep telling y'all. Don't bring me up to y'all little deposition thing and I'm going to say, what's not, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I'm going to tell you out of hold you. Look, look at her face. She don't like that shit.
Starting point is 00:44:38 She don't like this shit. Most of these artists, if they're major artists, they're going to get promotion. We're in the promotion business. We're in the entertainment and promotion business. Yes. I want to put that out there. Big Act has been at top of the promotion, and promotion, entertainment, marketing,
Starting point is 00:44:57 and digital marketing business for, I want to say, I'm going to clock it to around like 2018. That was the time we were done with. I used to do rounds with all these, like, you know, fly out to LA, go meet all them people up there, hear their little digital plans, realize they're, fucking idiots. Go over there, go listen to them, go to Atlantic, realize a bunch of old coops that run that shit. And the young guys, they're like, act, we need you to kind of really
Starting point is 00:45:28 make it, make it that we could get the shit we need to make it happen because they don't understand how to promote Duars. Say them all. I got you. Yeah, yeah, I've been the guy. I've been the guy. Chat, y'all know the stream version of me. So I'm just keeping it a bean. Don't get mad to me. By the way, Cojo, this is what they want you to go do for Drake. You need to go up there and tell a truth. Tell her hulchoo. Fuck it. Would it be fair for me to say then that you have promoted many of the big rich? Watch. By the way, yo Meg, you got a rookie for this. Look, I said Meg the stallion.
Starting point is 00:46:09 She realized how she's going to look in print and they're like, oh my God, let's try to get some other names in there. Watch this. artist on the scene? Here we go. Yes. Okay, so that would include, like, you know, other big rappers in the same arena. So, like, Drake, Nikki Minaj.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Stop it. Stop it. Oh. Oh. Because I said Meg and him done did the deed. You say, oh, well, well, um, but haven't you done the same with Meg, with, no, no, with Drake and Nikki.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Huh? We're going to keep it a bean. And by the way, if I did, I would tell the truth. I ain't coming up here a lot. And if Drake could get... I wish Drake had given me like half a million to promote him. I would tell y'all, I don't give two fucks. And I hope you wouldn't care because why are we lying?
Starting point is 00:47:07 Folks like that, you've been paid to promote... I've never been paid to promote Drake. Which, trust me, I'm not that happy about it. Okay? Maybe my blind loyalty prevents me from getting that money Anyway, never with Drake And never with Nicky Even though I wish I did
Starting point is 00:47:26 Um Those two And by the way, I want to stop it here because I want Like I know somebody I might be like yo He says blind loyalty and he says he wish he did Bro, I'm a business man I'm thinking from business perspective I want the niggas with the biggest budget
Starting point is 00:47:40 I know a small artist I know what I could hit him for I know what I could get out of them Yo, you, you're just 10 bands. You five bands. Whatever. I want the artists that I know got the $3 million budget because I think I could get $100 grand out of that.
Starting point is 00:47:57 I'm a hundred grand man when it comes to the big arts. Of course, I'm a hundred grand man. Let's get back the $100,000. I can't get it from a niggil who whole recording budget, marketing budget, studio budget. It's all $100,000. I can't get it. They're going to be like, y'all got $4,000 for you.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Chat, we got to eat. We got to eat. I'm sorry, we got to eat. anyway. I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. I didn't realize you weren't done. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Just those two out of, if you're listing names, I'll tell you the names. I don't know. But never those two. I just want to stay. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Let's take a breed and let's slow down. That's a court reporter. I'm sorry, Mr. Allen. You can continue if you hadn't finished answering the question.
Starting point is 00:48:41 So I'm agreeing, yes. I've helped and been paid to promote many of the biggest artists in the game. however when you list those names you actually list one of the few names that I haven't you know and it's not that happy about it
Starting point is 00:48:58 but it just never did but but the majority of other artists you could probably mention yes in some way form yeah yes and you said that you were you weren't so happy about not being paid to promote Drake and you said it was probably due to your blind loyalty are you blindly loyal to Drake is that what you're saying I'm talking about from a fan perspective
Starting point is 00:49:19 because I'm a fan of the music. So I speak about him. Okay, and I'm going to check. For anybody who was confused by me saying blind loyalty, I'm going to give, and I ain't going to lie, I remember this analogy because I hit it out in the park off the top of the dome. Listen to this analogy, and that's exactly what I mean. It would be more lucrative for me to be this size media personality
Starting point is 00:49:40 and have this size platform and never speak about Drake because then it would have to be a thing where a republic could only get to my platform through money and because it's Drake I would tax him but because I speak about him all the time and here's the analogy now it's so crazy enough where maybe paying me for promotion doesn't make sense if someone is talking about if someone has a show about a Mercedes car you don't need in those 30 second ad breaks to continue to promote Mercedes cars so I think that's what kind of happens is like you know for example some people online believe I've been paid to promote Takashi 6-9 never have never did
Starting point is 00:50:20 Of course, you know The reason why I said Not that happy about is because They have huge budgets of course I would want it However All of those associations Usually pays itself back Exclusive interviews, information that we leak
Starting point is 00:50:37 It's usually worth this weight and goal So like you know we don't We don't look at it by oh man we didn't get paid From this person but yeah Did you ever leak exclusive information from someone on Drake's camp on his behalf? Oh man. They on his dick. Yeah, sure, of course. What type of information have you leaked that you received from Drake's camp?
Starting point is 00:51:03 Usually clearing up rumors. Like about what? It could be, you know, someone, you know, we live in the age of misinformation where fans have now, you know, weaponize lies and misinformation to try to take down someone's, you know, actually, that sound like defamation, you know, right? So they would try to make his character look very unsavory or just like he's a horrible person. And, you know, if he's sending out a tweet saying, hey, listen, no, I didn't steal the candy from the candy shop every 20 seconds, he'll never get music done. So, you know, at times when it bubbles to the radar where we have to talk about it,
Starting point is 00:51:42 we or I personally, I could be like, hey, Drake, is this true? And he'll be like, hey, listen, here's the proof. You know, it happens a lot with people saying, hey, I know this guy or I did this. He'll like send me his DM with the person. I never spoke to this person. This person has been messaging talking to himself. You know, it's a one-sided conversation in the DMs for like 18 years. And now they're claiming X, Y, and Z.
Starting point is 00:52:05 So, yeah. Do you communicate with him one-on-one and he gives you that information? Or do you go through somebody on his team? I speak with him one-on-one. How long have you had contact with him on a long like that? By the way, I want to remind y'all, we're in a deposition for Meg the Stallion and Milagra Cooper. They want to know about my relationship with Drake.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Huh? I think they might have asked me, yo, act, did you really buy the 30 body pillows? The 30 Drake body pillows. Them shit's as nice as a plush? I don't know why they want to know that. I don't know why when I seen a message of their group chat, they're in there typing OVO. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:52 I don't know. You got to tell me. I don't know. Right before they say OVO, they're saying, go tell Desiree or Des, X, Y, Z. I don't know why they're saying who I interpret to be the Rock Nation CEO. Go tell the Rock Nation CEO X, Y, Z. then they want to talk about Drake and OVO
Starting point is 00:53:18 I don't know why but you guys are smart use your brain we've kind of had a relationship where we speak directly I don't know going on maybe like six seven maybe eight years
Starting point is 00:53:36 um we go off the record for a minute please okay okay alright I'm gonna Okay So they take bad breaks They come back They come back
Starting point is 00:53:51 Let me just take this off for a second Because I want to play nothing Use Robin Hood Okay Uh No So you don't have Any kind of
Starting point is 00:54:03 Tini bank brokerage accounts Okay Oh yeah No You want to have a banquet So you don't have Any kind of TD bank
Starting point is 00:54:14 Hold on. One question, and maybe it'll encapsulate your answer for a lot of things. So then fair for me to say that you've never been paid any compensation, whether crypto or any other medium, for posting specific content or not posting specific content, you've only been paid to promote music. Yes. You mentioned earlier that you've had conversations with Drake about,
Starting point is 00:54:46 you know dispelling rule bro how the fuck are they keep asking about Drake rumors that may exist about him it seems like you guys have a pretty good relationship is that fair yeah it's my boy has he has he ever sent you any sort of cryptocurrency or digital assets for any reason Drake has never transferred a dollar with me sad isn't it um that's a joke where do you I got that from the laugh. I think we could agree it was a joke. Where do you typically do your banking? Do my what?
Starting point is 00:55:25 Your banking. My banking? Nah, that was crazy. I was to skip past that. And they were a sponsor of one of yours? Oh, then they start asking about steak. I think it is a compensation for your work? Nope.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Wait, hold on. Let me say that. Nope. Let me see. So you don't have any kind of teeny bank brokerage accounts, J.P. Morgan, anything like that. No, nothing from the Lions Bernstein. Nope. Do you have any joint accounts with anybody through which you receive any kind of compensation for your work? Nope.
Starting point is 00:56:08 What is steak? Eddie. Rot nation on your ass too. Rot nation on your ass too. What? Hey hello, what are we talking about now? What are we talking about? Yo, Jay-Z, I know you didn't get your gambling contract in Tom Square,
Starting point is 00:56:34 but if you're trying to get down with steak, I put you on the phone with Eddie. Yo, we get you on steak. I know you see Drake running it up. Rock Nation and Megastayan lawyers asking me about steak. Steak is a online gambling company And it's a Crypto based online gambling company, right?
Starting point is 00:57:01 Well, I think they're based in crypto But they also deal with You know, cash at least on withdrawals, yeah And they were a sponsor of one of yours Previously? Yeah, great guys Steak is great people
Starting point is 00:57:17 Steak is amazing people They've only treated me with the utmost respect Rock Nation, I see what I got going on. I get it. Megastallian album may not be doing too well. Nobody checking for her musically. People think she's a liar. But what that got to do with my good folks over is stake.com?
Starting point is 00:57:40 I'm in the U.S., so I prefer steak. But still, ask me all type of questions. You go from Drake to steak? What? Do you get to know, let me back up and ask you a different question? did you ever get to know or meet the individuals who own stake? Oh, this is federal. This is federal chat.
Starting point is 00:58:07 They want to know you met the niggas won the shit. What? No, no, no. How did you get connected with the individuals at stake to be in a sponsor relationship? Nah, this is like, this is, this is fan shit. This is fair shit. I'm going to skip past some of this I'll tell you what my answer was
Starting point is 00:58:30 I did a deal with dual bits back in the day and after I did deal with dual bits I think steak approached me I'm gonna say it just like y'all don't think I'm weird I think another streamer introduced me do you remember who that streamer was
Starting point is 00:58:44 fed shit um I think it was the essential what I didn't recall at the time I didn't recall this was years ago actually done you know
Starting point is 00:59:03 on second thought But I think what happened was I got introduced to a company named Dual Bits. I was doing business with Dual Bits. And Dual Bits, I think Steak then seen me and then they approached me. And we started doing business. Shout to steak. Shout to steak. This is wow.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Yo, shot to steak. Shout to kick. Shot to the gang. What I don't know what I'm talking about? Hey, listen, as long as you do it, then it goes. They asked mad questions about Stakes, so I'm going to skip past all that. Y'all want to get to the Tory argument. So when we get to Tory, it start becoming combatant.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Like, it stopped being, so this is a deposition. It's supposed to be I ask a question, you answer a question. It's not a conversation. It's not a sassy response. It's whatever my question is, whatever your answer is, we move on. But she gets personal, I think. Did you know who he was before you met him? Yes, it was a wildly successful.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Oh, it's a story. A long time ago. Uh, first, my. When did you first meet Tory Lanes? Uh, first met Torrey Lanes. Um, it feels like such a long time ago. I kind of almost want to say like 2000 and might have been like, I don't know I've been doing this, like maybe 18, 19.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Did you know who he was before you? met him. Yes, he was a wildly successful music star, someone who I enjoyed his music a lot, and someone who was very ambitious in trying to get the eyes, ears, and attention of not only fans, but even challenged some of the top rappers, including my favorite top rapper, which was Drake. Were you a fan of Toylands' music before you met him? Yeah, of course. When you first had occasion to meet him, was that a result of him reaching out to you or somebody on his team reaching out to you or you reaching out to his team?
Starting point is 01:01:24 They invited me to, I believe, a show. And I believe that's the first time. I think it was a show. And the show was at like SOBs. SoB's a nightclub or used to be a night. I don't know what it is now. It's a particular venue in New York City. And did you get to meet him personally?
Starting point is 01:01:52 personally at that show or after the show? Yeah, I was backstage with him. We chopped it up. Cool guy. And did you guys click right away? Yeah. Keep in mind, chat. This is Milagro Cooper and Meg the Stey in deposition.
Starting point is 01:02:08 All they asking about is Drake, Nikki, and fucking Tori. God damn. And Grand Wizard Chat, nigga. God damn. He was a very progressive type of person. Like, that was a time when I think rappers didn't understand the idea that they were media personalities or people who were maybe not producers, A&Rs, or street dudes that, you know, would have some type of voice or influence or control platforms that their music could be
Starting point is 01:02:34 disseminated on. And rappers used to stay away from those people. He was one of those people would be like, no, I fuck with you. Sorry for the person, but I like you. You're cool. So, you know, yeah, we hung out and it was good. I watched him do an amazing performance. and, you know, we kind of built a relationship of there.
Starting point is 01:02:57 And did you ever have him on any of your withdrawn? Did you ever interview him or otherwise have him as part of any of your streams? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He used to call him at times to just kind of like, you know, add, you know, context about the music he dropped. I've interviewed him on my podcast off the record and yeah I think I've done a decent amount of content We've even um Back in my still in my Fortnite days
Starting point is 01:03:28 Like I played Fortnite with him And uh They used to pair like You know kind of like Celebrities with Yeah they'd be tight I'm gonna get my stories out Shut the fuck I'll get my stories out
Starting point is 01:03:39 They just want me to be like fuck this nigga Like these pro players and he was paired with Um With someone so we were kind of going against each other Like a basically Yo, tell Shorty right here, man. We rock with her, man. The celebrity Fortnite game.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Yo, Shorty, we're going to get your promotion over there, okay? You like the black face. So, yeah, yeah. Meaning that we love, we love that we're seeing black faces over there, not black face as a monic or like a, you know, mockery or whatever. Obviously, you're a black person clear. That's kind of like the name. Got it.
Starting point is 01:04:12 And you said that over time your relationship developed because you were able to hit it off so well. Is that about a fair approximation of what you were saying before? Yes. So you guys had occasion to go to dinner? Never went to dinner. Okay. Well, did you have occasion to hang out with one another outside of any sort of professional context? Yeah, I've gone to the club with him.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I've been to, like, his penthouse in Miami. But, yeah. Would you say that you, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I was going to say, would you say that you have a close personal relationship with him? Well, it depends on what we're talking about. So I would say I know him more than most rappers. I wouldn't say that we're best friends.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Like, I'm pretty sure on the list of people that he would call if he had a problem or issue or he needed someone to talk to unless it was music in nature. He's probably not calling my phone. So it's one of those people where, like, you know how you have work friends. And then you have that one friend that you might invite out to the club. but you won't go everywhere with them. So it's like, he's like, she don't get it. She don't get it.
Starting point is 01:05:24 A work associate that is a little bit closer than others because we have hung out in other capacities, yeah. But would I say I'm one of his closest and bestest friends? Absolutely not. Would I say he's the same to me? Absolutely not. But would you consider him a friend nevertheless, even if not a close friend?
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yeah, of course, yeah. Has he ever confided anything in you and you and him? What? I mean, I don't think men really just get on the phone and like to start going off like, hey, listen, I got something to confess. But yeah, we have off the record conversations. Like, off the record conversations might be like, yo, what do you think this rapper is going
Starting point is 01:06:03 to do first week? Yo, hey, what did you think about this record? Yo, what do you think this move should be? And honestly, and being very clear with y'all, when I talk to rappers, there's only probably, only the only exception is probably young boy and Cardi. They're the only two people that when we're having like real conversation, obviously off the record conversations. Like most of these guys, they know about numbers. So like we might be like, damn, what do you think baby's going to do?
Starting point is 01:06:28 What you think so-and-so fin to do? Damn, who you think the hottest rapper is right now? Like, because they care. Like, that's your profession. It's like a sport. Like we're all in the game, bro. So, yeah, that's most of my conversations off the record with rappers. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:06:41 Like we'll be like, nah, nina, nah, this thing is still popping. I'm like, nah, he's falling off. But these are off the record conversations. what I'm talking about for this person, you know, because again, a lot of times we're picking each other's brain trying to strategize on how to, you know, do whatever we could do to kind of like progress in and excel in in our respective fields. So yeah, we've had off-the-record conversation, not necessarily, oh, he's confided in me, X, Y, or Z. And just for clarity-sick, I think we all know the answer to this question, but as a lawyer,
Starting point is 01:07:15 I have to ask certain sort of foundational questions. You're aware that Mr. Laines is incarcerated today? Yeah. Unfaird. During the course of his incarceration, have you been in contact with him? I have spoke to him. Have you gone to visit him? No.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Have you spoken to him mostly on the phone then? Yeah. Oh, that would have been through the jail provided calls, or the phones, rather? I'm not sure how they were, how those calls were facilitated. But I did speak to him. And, you know, always had good words for me. And I always had good words for him. But I think it was because I heard that little jail,
Starting point is 01:08:00 this is a collection car or whatever it is. So I think that's what it is. But I can't be sure all the time. Anyway, yeah, we've spoken a couple times. Has anybody spoken to you? on Tori's behalf while he's been incarcerated. Tori's behalf as a what? Sort of as an intermediary.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Has anybody ever said, oh, I spoke to Tori, he wanted me to give you this message, something to that effect. No. So with Tori, if, so I'm going to assume that that doesn't mean music-wise. So I'm always privy to many people's release.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Like, for example, offsets dropping music, his label just hit me, do you want the album today? that's not talking to offset, right? So I wouldn't consider any conversation of the sort talking to Tory, but there's never a time where someone says, yo, give this message to act, which has nothing to do with music, right?
Starting point is 01:08:56 So, you know, this is why I have to explain these relationships because me communicating with an artist or communicating with someone on behalf of an artist, I wouldn't necessarily say that's communicating with them, but I do have communications that usually include music because anytime he's dropped the music, right? And I've always, you know, he knows I'm a fan. I want to know when it's coming out.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I want to, if we could get a window of early release, let's do that. There's people that he employs that usually serves up, I guess, music to the DSPs or whoever. Yet they would handle those type of things. But no one particularly has ever said, hey, Tori needs to pass you a message. No.
Starting point is 01:09:35 When you do speak to Mr. Lanes on the phone during the course of incarceration. What do you talk about generally? Well, I try to be the window to what's going on out here. So, you know, we'll talk about the latest thing I'm posting on Instagram. Like, hey, yo, this just happened. You know, I was just like, you know, in the midst of like the ditty trial, I think we had like a conversation.
Starting point is 01:09:59 I was like, yo, this is crazy. And, you know, he was very optimistic, you know, hoping that, you know, things, you know, resulted in at least, fairly because you know he's his disposition in mine as well is that you know his incarceration wasn't that fair but other than that i'm just usually his eyes and ears to the to the outside world so i'll give him an update there and he'll be like really that's happening and um you know sometimes i'll tell him about the latest debates i've had because he's he's a very spirited and won't say necessarily painted but but but really smart and witty when it comes to music industry
Starting point is 01:10:37 type thing. So, you know, if I could get a quick debate out of him, I would. When you say that you and he believe that his incarceration was... Counsel, please get closer to the mic. Sorry, when you say the... Let's try this again. When you say that you and him have had conversations about his incarceration not being that fair, you're referring to Mr. Lane's incarceration? Oh, no, no, I didn't say we had conversations.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I said our disposition. I think we have similar dispositions. I didn't say we talked about it. I said, I, along with him, believe he's incarcerated unfairly. I mean, I think we don't even have a conversation about it. He has filed multiple appeals and me personally. I have, in my personal opinion, I think his incarceration is BS. When you say BS, you mean bullshit, right?
Starting point is 01:11:30 Yeah, and unfair, yes. And by unfair, you mean unjust? Yes. And by unjust, would you say wrongfully convicted? Yes. What's your basis to believe that he was wrongfully convicted? The basis would be, you know, I sat through and watched, you know, in hip-hop I cover the majority of trials and the majority of cases. And I not only have to do that, clearly, I'm not a lawyer, you are, but I review all of these details, court transcripts of all these testimonies.
Starting point is 01:12:01 and the I thought the burden of proof was on the prosecutor to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Tory Lane's was not only in possession of a weapon but shot Miss Pete and I had a lot of doubt. There was a lot of doubt that I thought was more than reasonable. So under that premise, I don't see or I couldn't stand behind a decision to put somebody in jail for 10 years when there is more than what I believe is reasonable doubt that he didn't commit these crimes. So, you know, From there, I'm not going to agree with any type of incarceration of him. Did you reserve your opinion with respect to whether or not... Yo, she's so tight. She's so tight by this. I don't know why. You thought that there was sufficient evidence to sustain a conviction against him until after the trial concluded, or did you speak on it during the duration of the trial? Oh, definitely spoke on it during the duration.
Starting point is 01:12:56 When people are watching me give an opinion or cover a trial, it's definitely rooted in how I see it mixed with, hey, listen, these are the facts. But as we all know, a lot of times facts could depend on how you put them in what order, in who the facts supposedly are coming from, or even a testimony, it could really, the person who's receiving those things could go either way. So I always have a pain in the point of view. So from the get-go, I definitely thought, hey, listen, this is a crock of BS, and yes, that means bullshit, from the get-go where the victim was supposedly,
Starting point is 01:13:39 I felt like she was just lying. I felt like she was an habitual liar. I felt like she couldn't tell the truth to save her life. And then now when it relied on her testimony, along with a couple of other things, from what I've seen, but her testimony definitely was an important fact. Just interject, just interject real quick. When you say a couple other things, you mean other evidence that was admitted. at trial and considered by the jury during the criminal trial, right?
Starting point is 01:14:03 Yes. Yes. Right. Like, like, like, bullet fragments pulled from her feet, right? At surgery? Say it again. Okay, let's try the question again. She just objected to form.
Starting point is 01:14:19 That's okay. You can still answer, but I'll repeat the question. Another form is that it's assuming facts, not in evidence. Okay, that's not an objection during a deposition, but okay. One of the forms of evidence. By the way, that's Milagro's lawyer. So Milagro lawyer sits through all depositions because her client, this is a fact-finding situation. And anything I say, whether to help her or hurt her, she wants to be able to at least object that maybe some questions are inappropriate or she's leading or whatever.
Starting point is 01:14:52 So that's why that's Malagro lawyer talking in the background. Was metallic fragments that were pulled from Ms. Pete's feet after surgery that was admitted to trial, right? Yes. Are we, I mean, I could broadly lay out why I feel that way, unless you're trying to get me to agree or disagree with each single point. The point of, and I'll sum it up for you, I'm going to think someone is a liar when they get pulled over by the police and they tell the police, stepped on glass and it doesn't come out later until you're mad and I like to stay out of people's you know I used to call it dick and pussy business that's how I you know colloquially refer to these things when people get mad and they're in their feelings because they're having sex and they're
Starting point is 01:15:38 in what's really a relationship that might be domestic or you know however turbulent in nature I like to say out of those things because people's objectives change over time so if I was supposed to believe this person who ends up being the star witness when she first gets pulled over, she stepped on glass. If I was supposed to believe her in trial, when she now hates this guy, and we all know, and again, I'm saying we all know, but I'm saying it from just
Starting point is 01:16:05 a societal perspective, listen, there's no girlfriend that's going to have a bad breakup with you and then go say, this guy is the best guy ever. Story is always going to change, perspective change. Then she says, no, he shot me. So again, I'm going off of those things, and I
Starting point is 01:16:21 like to believe women. So when she told me one thing, and then, She tells me another. I don't know what to believe, right? And to me, that's doubt already. That's doubt. Okay. Well, let me ask you this question.
Starting point is 01:16:34 At the end of every trial day, did you download the trend? Belt to ass! This is Rock Nation's finest. This is what they got going on over there with Meg the Stallion. Yo, these lawyers just got like, they got like little three little letters at the end of their names saying they passed the ball. They're talking dumb shit. Really, they're doing it for the truth. Check. You know what's crazy? I guarantee even this girl right here. This lady, she probably a decent young lady. This is her gig. She got to do it to go get her money. I don't know if she has kids or she definitely probably has a family.
Starting point is 01:17:06 bro they don't give a fuck bro if me and her was at a bar and i had nothing to do with the case or whatever whatever she probably told me i don't give a fuck about this mega style shit i'm just over there getting my bread but i got to argue to argue that's my job these lawyers don't believe what they're saying bro they're saying what they think they're saying what they're paid to say that's my client let me just keep try to wrap you around in legalese that you're gonna look stupid now she tried it with me for seven hours and chat i'm gonna let it put I'm not cutting it right now because this is
Starting point is 01:17:38 this is raw conversation we got about 18 more minutes of this this is Tori and Megisha we're straight talking about it and if you in chat y'all gonna be able to tell me act this lawyer really gave you belt to ass but I think it's the opposite
Starting point is 01:17:52 y'all are trying to get me on the record to say that I was just capping on my streams and in the media and I don't believe it and I sat there and told you this chick is a liar she is a liar yesterday today and I think she'll lie tomorrow, and I don't believe her, and I don't,
Starting point is 01:18:09 this is why I have all the doubts about this, the particular case. She tried to sidestep me. Classic debate tactic. Well, the jury, they were there and they said this. Do you accept the verdict? That's basically saying, do you accept the jury's opinion? Of course, I accept the verdict because I'm a, you know, I'm a law-bodied citizen of the United States of America, and we deal with law and justice.
Starting point is 01:18:30 We, of course, are going to accept that. We're not going to do a January 1-6. We're not going to fucking go break Tori out of the jail. However, it doesn't mean I have to accept that they made the right decision. That's the point. She was heated. It's like the Rock Nation Megastalian propaganda. I thought y'all were here to find facts out, not to question me and try to change my mind.
Starting point is 01:18:54 But let it go. Scripts of the trial proceedings for that day and review them. Not every room. By the way, chat, I'm still on chill mode. Right now I'm on zone. I'm on zone two. I'm in gear too. I ain't even really amp it up because I ain't think this chick was really trying me. I'm like, come on, I do this for a living. You a junior associate or whatever over there, they ain't even sent Alex Spiro. And they sent Alex Spiro, and I do mention
Starting point is 01:19:17 him in this thing. If they sent Alex Spear, I knew they sent a big dog. They sent a big dog. They sent a pup. They sent a pup to spawn with, you can't send a pup. I said to pop. Come on man. Were you streamed about them? Not every day. That trial we relied on numerous people. given their in trial assessment of what was being presented, entered into evidence, and also all the testimony that was given in that day. Okay. So you relied on somebody who was present
Starting point is 01:19:48 in the courtroom to relay their opinions about what was presented in the courtroom to form your own opinions about what happened at the trial, right? Yes. Okay. And you personally were not present in the courtroom during the course of the criminal trial, right? That was not. Okay. And you didn't even go to a single day of the trial in person, correct?
Starting point is 01:20:09 No. Okay. And you understand that after the trial, a jury came to a verdict, right? I mean, that's how trials go. The verdict is usually... Right, and in this case, a jury did come to a verdict, correct? Yes, they did. They convicted him. I still... That's right. And they came to that conclusion unanimously, right? Yes. And I still disagree. Okay, but unanimity means that all 12 juror members signed onto the same verdict, correct?
Starting point is 01:20:44 Yes. Okay. And that was after those 12 juror members heard all of the evidence that was admitted in the trial, correct? Yes. So after hearing, just so that we're on the same page. Yeah. After hearing all of the evidence, all 12 individual members of the jury agreed that the prosecution had proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Tory Lane shot Megan the Stalion on June 12, 2020, right? So I've never argued what the jury did.
Starting point is 01:21:16 It's a yes or no question. Yes, I've never, but it's a non-sequitur, because I've never said that. It's not a non-sequitur, Mr. Allen. It's a question. Because starting from what I'm not. are just starting from what I said I said what I believe you're telling me what the jury did me and the jury are not the same people so for example understood mr. mr. alex of murder but there are reasonable people who believe he did it I don't have to
Starting point is 01:21:43 accept what the jury the jury said just because it was unanimous and they saw quote quote all of the all of the testimony also I don't even believe that that's part of his his entire appeal we have three junkers entire What's part of his entire appeal? Well, there's evidence and testimony that I think is, let me lay this out. Megastalian is a flat out liar, in my opinion. What's your basis for saying that she's a flat out liar? I've seen her say something on Gil King, and then when it came to being questioned by the prosecutors and being on the stand, she says something different.
Starting point is 01:22:16 If that's not a lie, you tell me what it is. Okay. So she was clearly intoxicated that night. I don't think that's a, you know, something we have to debate. Kelsey, intoxicated that night, okay? Tori, intoxicated that night. The only person I was not intoxicated, the only person I wanted to hear. I don't want to hear from the drunk people.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Hey, listen, you see this hand right here? I don't, I think my hand is broken. I was drunk. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. The only person that was sober that night was Dequan, or whatever his name is, Dequan, Jayquan. He's the person I want to hear.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Again, from what I've seen, Tories team, they definitely fumbled that because they should have had him testify. He didn't testify. But if I'm a person, again, I'm not saying if we didn't accept the jury's decision, we would have went to break him out of jail. And we're talking about we as a collective in terms of the people of the United States. But we accept that a jury when they do their job, they do their job. So we accept all their decisions.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Doesn't mean that we have to agree with the conclusion. conclusion they came to. I just covered the young Dolve trial. The guy just got found not guilty yesterday. Everybody who's everybody who either covered the case or is from that community knows this guy is guilty. But the prosecutor did a bang up job. That person was acquitted.
Starting point is 01:23:39 So again, no one's saying the jury didn't come to a unanimous decision, convicting him. What we're saying is, despite that, we believe that he's being held in jail and maybe I need to define this. When I say unfairly, we don't believe or I don't believe that he shot this woman as the story is presented via how the trial went down.
Starting point is 01:24:01 And, you know. What is your basis? So what I don't, what I fail to understand is as somebody who did not sit through the trial, did not hear through all the evidence, what is your basis for your belief that he did not shoot? Megan the Stallion, although a jury of 12 who heard all the admissible evidence. Disidivor. Okay. Dixon, Rhonda, I need you to wait until I'm done answering my question
Starting point is 01:24:30 before you object so that the court report... Yo, Malagra, why you... Why Rock Nation's lawyers violating your lawyer like that? You know, my lawyer got a big dog to sit here. You got to bully the scene. You got to... Yo, yo, come on, yo. I bully the whole scene.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Yo, you... I bully the whole scene. Yo. I bully the whole scene. As soon as I got up in this depot, I looked up at all these lawyer names, I said... I bully the whole scene. I say, yo, it's movie time.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Come on. I'm just going to get it down. And number two, I'm just going to ask that you, as is customary in federal court, reserve your objections to the form only that covers every type of substantive objection and reserves them all. Mr. Allen. Can you just not ask compound questions and just ask one question for one fact so that I can keep up? Rhonda, I don't believe it was a compound question, but I'll,
Starting point is 01:25:26 I'll do my best to make sure the record is clear for everybody's sake. How about that? Thank you. All right. So, Mr. Allen, what I was asking was, can you explain to me the basis for your belief that Mr. Laines did not actually shoot Megan the Stallion when in point of fact, a jury of 12 determined that based on all the evidence that they heard, that he did? ma'am
Starting point is 01:25:57 I'll answer the question but I feel like we are going in circles I flat out stated that again I could lay out 20 points if you want to just consume and eat up time having me do that but the initial this is what lawyers do they're on the clock
Starting point is 01:26:17 they're on the clock chat let me tell I know how lawyers I just hasn't said a lawyer 50,000 this was yesterday or two days ago trust me it ain't never feel good. And when they sent me the invoice, oh, we spent an hour and a half on a phone internally, but it's for your case.
Starting point is 01:26:36 So that's $3,000. Huh? What? But that's how it is. So I always tell people about lawyers, but all they do is good at wasting time. There are great lawyers, right? And there are great lawyers,
Starting point is 01:26:49 but lawyers do realize because most of them work off of a time clock, they like to just waste time rather than getting to the shit. So, for example, this woman has asked me the same question multiple times. I said, yes, I accept that Torrey Lanes got found guilty by a jury. I still don't believe he is actually guilty. She wants me to say something else. She's asking this question in every different way.
Starting point is 01:27:23 This is only the work of lawyers who are just trying to waste the time to run their bill up. Let's be honest, Jack. Basis of me believing that this did not happen as how, yes, he is convicted, is because I believe Meg the Stallion is a liar. She lied initially. She lied on the national news. and I am skeptical that the truth finally came out in court. Based on that, there are alternate theories that I feel and is suggested that that is more a, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:06 and again, this is from my perspective. So we're not, we're not, we're not, I'm not sitting here saying the jury did not. Okay, we accept. There's alternate theories other than him shooting her that would even substantiate. Why, first of all, maybe he's just the worst shot in the world. If he's shooting a chick and shot five times, not one of them directly connected, it's hard for me to think. It's a man and a woman.
Starting point is 01:28:33 I get it. Meg is like this behemoth of a person and Tori's this little small, dweeby dude, whatever. But it's very interesting. And it doesn't make, again, I'm using common sense. I get it. We're not talking about what the jury did. but it is in my opinion that Meg the Stallion wasn't shot by Torrey and that he should not be in jail. Okay. You understand that when a jury determines evidence, they use their common sense as well, right?
Starting point is 01:29:03 And I do, and I do also agree that two people could think two different things. And yes, 12 thought that. I guess maybe I'm the 13th, that thing's opposite. Okay, and you were not one of the 12 who were charged with the duty of determining what the evidence demonstrated, right? Right here. This is true. So Shorty pops on here. She works with Team Rock.
Starting point is 01:29:25 So all of a sudden, a Quinn Emmanuel lawyer that is seen as Team Rock. So it feels like it's almost like a Rock National Branch lawyer pops on. Okay. And obvious, yes.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Okay. And you mentioned earlier that one of the people you wanted to hear from at the trial was the driver, right? I did. Okay. And you understand that the decision was up to Tory's lawyer to decide whether or not he would call the trial and he chose a
Starting point is 01:29:54 call the driver at the trial and he chose not to, right? That is true too. I also understand. I also am just skeptical why the prosecutor would look to want to put three drunk people that night on the stand but not do their hardest to find and make sure the sober person was on the stand. That kind of was a little bit alarming to me. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:16 But you also understand that as part of a trial, it's not just the prosecutor who presents evidence, it's also the defendant who has an opportunity to prevent evidence, right? Yeah, the burden of the proof is definitely on the prosecutor, but the prosecutor should operate in good faith for the people, which if you're telling me there's four drunk people in a car or three drunk people in a car, I think the person you should want to talk to more. I think there was severe prosecution. Belt, belt, belt, belt. I got to give the. belt got to get a belt check belt j z this what you're paying 10 million dollar per year as a retainer for for them to be happy for seven hours looking like scrambling through papers asking me the same question just like come on is this what you paid for hoff me making this ain't what you pay for you pay for a YouTuber that went to college for biomethmatics to start giving you belt when you're trying
Starting point is 01:31:35 to talk this legally shit because you think you're smarter than everybody in the room. Come on. The belt got to be given, man. You also understand that part that Mr. Peterson has tried to, has filed a habeas corpus petition that was denied, right? I have seen the news of the denial of, I mean, that was always a Hail Mary anyway. The testimony about the driver was part of that petition, right? Yeah, but I believe in a declaration I read from the, again, I'm not, I'm not re-litigating something.
Starting point is 01:32:15 There's a court system. No, I mean, Mr. Allen, let's say, I'm sorry, Mr. Allen, I don't mean to be rude, but I know that you do have to leave at 1230 and I want to get through these questions. Before we I get just to be clear it was about like 1220 at this point or 1215 We went till five so there's five more hours of this Five more hours this bullshit to my next question though I do want to check with you Do you need to be off zoom at 1230 or do you need to be off around 1215 so that you can get out of your house by 1230? I could give me if we could break at 1220 I could to see if maybe I could get some extra time or whatever, but I think we should break it.
Starting point is 01:33:02 12, 20, I could give you an update on what needs to be done. Okay, that'd be great. So back to the question I was asking, to be clear, you're saying that you accept the jury's determination, but in all actuality, you don't because you don't agree with him, and you believe that he was wrongfully convicted, right? And you hope that he gets out of prison. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:33:25 and you hope that somebody somewhere determines that there was insufficient evidence to convict him and that the conviction gets overturned, right? Yeah, and even if it doesn't, I'll never believe it. I'll be honest with you. Even if the conviction does get overturned, you would never believe? No, no, I say it doesn't. I mean, again, the, there's, you know, my, my thoughts are based in what I think is, once I can't, once I think you a liar, I don't really want to hear much from you.
Starting point is 01:33:56 I'm going to keep it on a hundred. Okay, one last thing about the trial for now, and then we'll get back to it later if need be. But you understand that Ms. Pete talked about all of the instances where she gave inconsistent information on the stand before the jury, right? Yeah, I mean, a liar always has a reason to lie. No, I didn't ask you whether or not she had a reason to lie, but I'm asking you whether or not you are aware that during the criminal trial, she testified as to what she originally told the police. and to what the truth was on the stand, right? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:32 And after she testified to all of that, at the end of the day, the jury determined that there was sufficient evidence to convict Mr. Lanes, right? Yeah, that's exactly what that. Just to say that the jury believed her, right? Yeah, well. Objection as to form. I would imagine they believed her. I don't know if did we do a polling of all these jurors?
Starting point is 01:34:57 I mean, they voted overall. Hold on. Mr. Allen. I think you and I already discussed that the jury came to their decision unanimously. Now, what she's doing, and this is what I said, yo, I don't know. You, Rock Nation got to get Alex Spear up here. I've been said that I'll sit down with Alex Spear. Fuck a deposition.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Me and Alex Spear could sit down man to man, and we could have a conversation, an interview. We could talk about everything, Rock Nation, Tory. We could talk about, I don't care what it is. Because he does represent a lot of interest that seems to be, like, maligned against a lot of things that I feel like maybe my opinions. Don't send the B squad. You see, the B squad is like these people who are used to dealing with dummies.
Starting point is 01:35:38 And what she's trying to do is pass one off to me saying, well, you know Meg basically talked about even when she didn't tell the truth and when she did tell the truth and how she told everything and she testified and Tori still got convicted, right? And I'm like, yes, that did happen. Here's where they thought I was a slow nigga. They're trying to pass this off as, so you have to agree with this. They're saying, so because the jury convicted him, the jury believed everything Meg said. Now, does anybody in the chat or anybody within the listening ears of this content believe that the jury voted on if they believed everything Meg said?
Starting point is 01:36:23 or did they vote on, did the prosecutor prove their case enough? I would go with the latter. They voted on the prosecutor's case. They never voted on if they believe Meg a hundred percent. But because her objective is to make Meg seem not as a liar. And this is what I'm saying, this is a rock nation tactic. They brought me in a deposition for me to hopefully say, nah, Meg ain't really a liar.
Starting point is 01:36:50 No, I said what I said. She said mad things that I could Again, it would be one thing if like This is some secret shit where I'm like Where it's like, are you sure she lied to you And there's no proof? I could pull up public documents Of her lying. Why are y'all trying to now have me Change my opinion to say that she's not a liar?
Starting point is 01:37:11 And Chad, somebody's going to pay legal fees with this. Oh, that's Oh, that's always my goal. Hey, any subsequent legal shit I'm breaking it down on stream Because I need to get the bread. So we're going to get it. the bread out of this shit because rock nation well first of all right and i told them this i said rock nation in my opinion is bullying megal uh milagro because they're thinking that if they exhaust
Starting point is 01:37:35 her finances and she will not be able to put up a proper and adequate defense that she will at one point fold succumb to whatever they want her to say even if it's a complete retraction an apology whatever because they are dealing with remember i'm telling you that this is This deposition probably cost them $20,000. They had eight lawyers on there. They had three of them showing their face. One, two, three. They all work for Quinn Emmanuel,
Starting point is 01:38:04 which is Rock Nation and Megastalian's law firm. If you think three lawyers are getting $300 an hour, you're tripping. This is a top law firm that litigates all type of shit. The standard for law firms like this, especially when they got big clients like Jay-Z and Rock Nation is probably a thousand. per hour per person when they have to do legal work for that client this is technically legal work
Starting point is 01:38:30 trust me i just seen a bill i could pull it up on here it said they did a two my my lawyer sat for a two and a half hour deposition of i forgot what it was i think it was the chick for the dog bite some some chick claim my dog bitter they tell you how much because we so even that ronda chick that you don't see on camera that keeps talking she's billing milagra milagra has to pay that but you You can tell like she's one lawyer. She might be $300 an hour. No disrespect to her. These lawyers are top tier lawyers.
Starting point is 01:39:01 So we stayed on for seven hours. $3,000 per lawyer, seven hours. That's over $20,000. That's my entire point. That's my entire point to y'all. They're legally bullying people. So again, you know why I definitely use this as content? because, hey, if y'all gonna make this shit,
Starting point is 01:39:26 I'll make the legal shit fun. Oh, I could make content out of anything. Oh, you think because we did a boring ass deposition for seven hours, they ain't got no content? No, we got that bomb tent over here. I'm gonna get that ass sense off of this bitch, and we're gonna run it up. Matter of fact, Eddie, we might have to turn this into a steak promo.
Starting point is 01:39:43 We might turn us to a steak promo. We're gonna get the bread off of this shit no matter what. Because that's how they play with you. when they figure out you a broke boy you don't got no money you can't box with them financially they drown you with bullshit like this they don't mind paying 20,000 to talk to me
Starting point is 01:40:00 about bullshit for seven hours you know why they're dealing with millions you know they probably made the bet with Milagraith she ain't down to lose two million off of this she probably got it nasty work right yeah but the the decision that they came to was that
Starting point is 01:40:16 Tori's guilty not that they believe Meg the Stalian and everything she said on the stand. Was there a verdict on that? We don't know. I'm just saying, I don't believe that chick at all. Yes, it's called a guilty verdict for him having shot her. That is the verdict that they came to, right? that but that's not necessarily mean they agreed with everything of their testimony of her testimony there was time she didn't remember it doesn't mean they agreed with everything she said they agree with what the prosecutor alleges but that's not necessarily means that a guilty verdict doesn't mean we've had I've seen many imperfect witnesses who get things wrong may may be
Starting point is 01:40:53 not be forthcoming on the stand and they still get the favorable like verdict the verdict got nothing to do with Meggs. The chick's a liar. Like, that's point-blank period. I don't know. Like, you know. You believe that the verdict had nothing to do with the victim's testimony that she was shot by Torrey Laines. Ma'am.
Starting point is 01:41:13 Objection as to form. Ma'am. You're cleverly, but not cleverly, trying to make me say something. I'm not saying so I'll state it on the record unequivocally. The jury believes that Tori's shot.
Starting point is 01:41:29 Meg. The jury, from what I know, did not issue any statement, vote, or any opinion that they believed everything Meg said. Is one of the things Meg said that Tory shatter? Yes. So they believe that. However, the reason why I don't believe Meg in totality is that once I've deemed you as a liar, I thought, listen, you know, you know, they say don't throw away the baby with the bathwater. I kind of throw away everything you got to say. I don't want to hear it. nothing. Don't tell me the skies blue. I got to go check for myself. You're a liar. That's just, that's my perspective.
Starting point is 01:42:04 So if Meg told me today, hey, listen, it's raining outside, I'd be like, give me a second. And I'll go outside and go look. And I'd be like, you're right. That's just my opinion. I could barely hear you. Hey, I hear you. Yep.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Give me a second. Just to be clear, Mr. Allen, this opinion that you hold is one that you don't just personally hold and keep to yourself, right? I've said this anywhere I have ever been and asked. Right. You say it basically anywhere and anywhere you've ever been and as loudly and publicly as you can, correct?
Starting point is 01:42:47 Yeah. If I'm speaking my personal opinion, of course. Okay. And just so that I'm clear, you were not present on June 12th, 2020 when Miss Pete was shot, right? No, I wasn't. You weren't at the party. Correct? No. You weren't in the car, right? You weren't on the street, correct?
Starting point is 01:43:10 No. You weren't a witness at all whatsoever, right? I was not. So you couldn't actually say that you knew that Tori did not shoot Miss Pete because you weren't present, right? Yeah, I'm not unequivocally saying that it didn't happen. What I'm saying is... I'm sorry, hold on, hold on. Start again because there was something I didn't hear clearly.
Starting point is 01:43:31 Go ahead. I wouldn't say, oh, 100% this is the fact. I'm telling you my personal opinion and my belief. That chick is a liar and I don't believe liars. So, you know, her story, again, I accept the verdict. I accept all of this stuff. I don't accept a liar. I think she's a liar.
Starting point is 01:43:55 She was a liar then. She's a liar now. She's going to be a liar tomorrow. And yeah, that's it. do you believe she perjured herself on the stand at the criminal trial? Is that a chance to form? I wouldn't know. That would be something the prosecutors would have to answer, but that, you know,
Starting point is 01:44:14 we've rarely seen prosecutors turn back around and go for perjury charges on someone that they needed as a star witness. So I don't know. I don't know. You know, again, I can't tell you what the truth is. I didn't really ask you how frequently prosecutors decide whether or not they're going to charge somebody with perjury. I mean, you've been sitting here telling me your personal opinion about this trial and whether or not Ms. Pete is a liar. So my question to you is, do you believe she
Starting point is 01:44:38 perjured herself on the stand? You're asking me if I think she did not tell the truth? Yeah, that's what perjury means. Okay, I didn't believe her. Not at all, at all. I believe So you believe she perjured herself on the stand? Now, that's another, like, I don't know where they got this lawyer over there and Quinn Emanuel, but I did not want to answer to the the term perjury because that's actually a legal and a criminal act. The act of perjury is a criminal act. So if I say she perjured herself, it means I fully believe that she could or should be charged with perjury.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Me saying she's a liar doesn't mean the same as she perjured herself. So it's a little like they're using. very little nuances, but they want to get like yes or no declarative statements that they could grab to bring to their bigger trial, which is going to be the Malagro thing, or they got other things that they probably are planning. But you could tell how they're desperately trying, did she perjure herself? Now, I never said that. I said she's a liar. Now, if your definition of lying is equal perjury, sure, but I'm not going to say she committed perjury, right? I'm not a district attorney, right? That's like me.
Starting point is 01:46:00 saying you committed murder, but then you get found not guilty of murder. Even if you did the murder, you could sue me. So you see these little things and these nuances that they're trying to get off. Jackson has to form. Again, I'm going to, I believe she lied before,
Starting point is 01:46:18 on the stand afterwards. Okay. You understand that perjury is a crime, right? That's why I keep saying, don't ask me something as if I'm a district attorney. I'm not a district attorney. I'm not a district attorney. You could just ask me simply, do I think she lied? Right?
Starting point is 01:46:33 Because you said it means if she lied. I believe she lied. Whatever is done with the lie is, is, that's not for me to handle. During the course of the criminal trial, how often did you speak to Mr. Lanes or anybody related to him or associated with his legal team? I never spoke with his lawyers, but I spoke with, I spoke with Tori a few times. I think we did an interview thing before you got locked up clearly. I wouldn't speak to him much, but there were times that, you know, we've gotten on the phone. when you did speak to him before he was incarcerated during the course of the trial, what did you speak about?
Starting point is 01:47:34 Usually just how he's holding up, music he was planning to be releasing, and that was pretty much it. It was just music and how he's holding up. Talk about the trial itself? No No You didn't talk about The evidence presented No
Starting point is 01:47:58 No You didn't talk about Whether or not He did in fact Shoot Megan the Stallion No Only one time I've ever Talk to Tori about that
Starting point is 01:48:07 And I was right after it happened And I said Tori what happened And he basically said Hey I was at a party She was drunk Um They found out I'm smashing both of them
Starting point is 01:48:17 We get in the car These girls start fighting and I've said this publicly. The story skips a huge span of time. You know, I've always taken it to mean... So it skips past anywhere where there's an altercation that leads to a possible shooting. And it jumps to the point where, A, the police are there.
Starting point is 01:48:42 Okay? And I've always taken that to mean a few things. I took it to mean, hey, listen, I'd rock with you. you and I'm saying act that's people call me act um I like you you're cool but this is not something I might probably should tell you because it could be you know you could put put this out and I've always taken it from how he described the story as if he was trying to protect somebody right um and the reason why I thought that is like I felt like he was also trying to like do this non snitching thing where it's like yo if I tell you what happened
Starting point is 01:49:20 or who did it if I tell you Kelsey shot like yo I'm a snitch and like you know this is also after the you know me him and six nine were pretty good you know acquaintances right before six nine went through what he went through and I think their relationship was a little bit strange so like I could I definitely that was my opinion I'm like oh he's not trying to be the guy who's like let me tell you what happened um because he's he's trying to leave that information out maybe to protect someone or just not to be a snitch so I always took it like that. I never questioned him any further on it. But,
Starting point is 01:49:54 Mr. Allen, Mr. Allen, are you suggesting that when you spoke to Mr. Lanes shortly after the shooting, he was basically telling you in between the lines that Kelsey shot Miss Pete?
Starting point is 01:50:12 No, I'm telling you what I took away from the conversation. All right, and you are aware that regardless of what you took away from the conversation, that your takeaway was wrong, right? God damn. You might as well just testify, right?
Starting point is 01:50:30 You're asking for my opinion. I'm asking for you to ask me answer whether or not you understand that the takeaway that you got from that conversation is in fact wrong. I don't know if it's wrong. I'm going to be honest with you. Okay. Are you aware that Mr. Are you aware that Mr. Laines has publicly posted on Instagram that Kelsey did not shoot Ms. Pete?
Starting point is 01:51:02 Tori posted that? I'm asking you if you're aware. I know his account posted it. Is it Tori? Are you aware of somebody else running Mr. Lanes' account on his behalf? I'd be surprised if Tori runs his account even a quarter of the time. Tori Lanes, like many other artists, when I communicate to communicate with them,
Starting point is 01:51:27 especially via like say DMs or something like that, it could be any host of people. I'm still talking to a deceased person, King Vaughn. His Instagram messes me all the time because his manager runs that account. I don't know. Do you believe Mr. Allen, do you believe that somebody who's managing or running
Starting point is 01:51:49 Tori Lanes' account for him posted that's not true when another person posted online that Kelsey was the shooter So I actually believe it's one of two things Right? I believe it wasn't either That's not Tori on the account or I think this is more the reasonable belief I think to keep a real Kelsey did it and Tori been trying to protect Kelsey I don't know why he won't tell on her I would have been told on that that's the facts you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:52:21 Like, I would have been to... But I think he... I hope y'all realize I'm the same person on stream as off stream. Bring me in a deposition, a courtroom, you catch me in the cornerstone, the mall.
Starting point is 01:52:30 I'm kind of the same person, chat. I might speak a little bit, you know, I could code switch a little bit better and use a little bit more, you know, I'll stop using so much colloquial, um,
Starting point is 01:52:41 terms in ebonics, so to speak. But, yo, I'm the same nigga, man. Tori's not a gang member. He's, like,
Starting point is 01:52:48 he's a guy who's like, kind of like quasi-seized. street and I think he's been always like hey I got to not be as forthcoming with this information and trust me I listen to all the um the interviews he had to police because I wanted to hear him like usually when people get in trouble and feed us to the fire you just say it and he was always this vague and I get it he's a guy who believes we don't speak about certain things that could be criminal in nature whatever and if you ask me based on again you remember you're asking my opinion here I think that I think if toy was shooting Meg may be dead we're talking
Starting point is 01:53:27 about somebody who's alive and twerking I think she'd be dead I think what will happen is she was fighting with her friend over the belt yo child need a belt belt belt belt she alive and twerking what are we talking about she's alive and twerking Yo, they're so pissed. They're so pissed. She alive and twirking. Am I tripping? Yo, they're so mad, chat.
Starting point is 01:54:04 You're so mad. She'll love and twerking. I don't know what to say, Chad. She alive and twerking. Could be criminal in nature or whatever, whatever. And if you ask me, based on, again, you, remember, you're asking my opinion here, I think if Tori was shooting Meg, Meg be dead. We're talking about somebody who's alive and twerking.
Starting point is 01:54:28 I think she'd be dead. I think what happened is she was fighting with her friend over the fact that they were in a triangular relationship. Somehow the gun got into play. If Tori's trying to shoot her, I believe she'd be dead. You're not missing five shots. I believe. So I believe what that indicates to me also. Mr. Allen, how exactly do you believe that the firearm just, quote, got into play?
Starting point is 01:55:00 There was a gun in the car. There's a gun in the car. There's an argument. Did it just fall out on its own? Well, somebody took it out. You believe that it misfired? No, no. No, no.
Starting point is 01:55:09 I believe someone shot it. I believe Kelsey was trying to shoot. I think Kelsey was trying to put Meg six feet under and Tori slapped the gun out of her hand. Here's the thing. Legally, it's a conundrum for Tori. This is just my thoughts. You're not supposed to touch a firearm, even if you're playing Captain Savo,
Starting point is 01:55:26 save or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, you're not supposed to, Captain Saba. Handle a firearm at all. So that can't be his legal defense. Also, if he says she was the one doing the shooting, you look like a snitch.
Starting point is 01:55:41 In hip-hop, we're done with you. You're like, wait, you just came out and just said this girl did the shooting. Hey, what most rappers do. Sir Allen, just so that I got it straight. You believe this man is doing a 10-year bid for Kelsey when she- Yo, she's tight. She mad.
Starting point is 01:55:59 You mad! You mad! Hold on, Chuck. I got this one. You've hurt children. How do you hurt children by promoting to be an entrepreneur and a CEO and to do right now? He's looking at a principle. Why you don't want to love him so, man, you know.
Starting point is 01:56:31 Why you don't want to love him so, man, you know. He's the one who shot Megan the Stallion. Ma'am, there's a lot of people in black culture that do that. He comes and emanates from that type of, that type of place. Yes, I believe he, I think it's stupid. Trust me. I think it's stupid. You know what I mean? Like him and him and Kelsey should have bunk beds if it was going to be that. But I do believe that in reality, he he was not his forthcoming. He was not helpful at all in the investigation. And once the investigation targeted him, he thought he was protecting her because he's like, no way they're going to be able to say I did it.
Starting point is 01:57:12 And then they, it was able to be at least proven, at least according to the jury. And that's where That's why he is where he is. Did he ever tell you that that's what happened? He never told me. That's the thing. He refused to tell me anything that was in any average. Did anybody who was actually present on the night in question when Miss Pete got shot actually tell you that that's the story? No, but just like most people online, we have to use our own common sense.
Starting point is 01:57:43 We have no video. Right. What you do is you sit in you, what you do is you sit in. show she's sassy show she's sassy speculate right yes and that's right so everything that you just said yes was a whole lot of speculation right absolutely okay because you have no basis in any admissible form to support anything that you just said right yeah we're speculating
Starting point is 01:58:09 because it's a total wild goose chase isn't it oh no no no no no oh no oh no hold I see she's trying to get turned up on me come on shoddy i do this for a living you gotta get out of spirit to come fuck with the dawn over here hold on let me start cooking chat should i start cooking should i start cooking i again
Starting point is 01:58:28 you keep doing this thing where you ask me my opinion based on and i'm telling you things that have substantiated well 12 people said you haven't subsancted Mr. Allen i'm so sorry you haven't substantiated a single thing that you said okay and every time i got hold on
Starting point is 01:58:45 every time have hold on hold on every time I have asked you to substantiated you have told me quote it's just my opinion so what I'd like to know is what is your basis to believe
Starting point is 01:59:02 all of the things that you've just said Ronna I don't know why you're saying anything when I question is not done because you're asking the same question over and over again she's sassy yo Rob Nation lawyers are erupting in real
Starting point is 01:59:17 time. Rhonda, shut the fuck up! Let me ask this! Whoa, calm it down now. Would you like to wait until I finished asking the question, or do you want to interrupt me so that this goes longer and longer? Mr. Allen.
Starting point is 01:59:33 Let's ask a different question. I'll ask whatever question I deem appropriate, Rhonda. Thank you very much. Objection I deem inappropriate. Thank you very much. Okay. I would appreciate if you waited until the question was over before you interposed an objection so that we can work here in a civil way.
Starting point is 01:59:51 but I guess you're not really inclined to do that. Mr. Allen. You, Meg, this is what you done brought into hip-hop and paid for, man. This type of fuck cream. It's all good. We got bombed. What basis do you have other than speculation, which is what you've said it is, to believe everything that you have just went on about for the past 10 minutes?
Starting point is 02:00:16 Ma'am, I've said there's a lot of the story that is going to be speculative. I've came to my opinion on that and my opinion will rest there on that. I'm not saying, again, I hear what happened in court. For me, shit got to make sense. You telling me a man who could overpower a woman a second shoots five times at her, doesn't try to, again, it don't make sense to me. I'm going what makes sense with me and also the fact that one person is a liar that I could make up my opinion.
Starting point is 02:00:48 Do I accept what the verdict is? I get it. But again, remember your question. in my opinion. We're not having a question on what was proven in court. That's cool. And it is on anyone if, for example, I think I'm a very nice person, but there's a lot of people who think I'm not. If their opinions that I'm not a nice person, I could give them 3,000 facts. Hey, you know, I like fed babies in Angola. Nobody cares. We're not talking about you. You're a question of my opinion. We're not talking about what
Starting point is 02:01:16 people think about you at all. But your question in my opinion. No, no, we're not talking about that at all. My question was, I think you've answered it. I think you've answered it. Here's my next question, which is about you. Have you ever lied about anything? I'm a human. I've definitely told a lie.
Starting point is 02:01:33 So should everybody say he's lied before, therefore, I'm throwing the baby out with the bathwater, can't trust the thing this guy says about you? If they want to, yeah. That's everyone reserves the right to say, based on your conduct. I don't want to hear a thing out of your mouth. That applies to me on the highest level because I'm a broadcaster.
Starting point is 02:01:56 I would love to have a billion ears. But if they said based on your objectionable views, your actions, you told us this and it wasn't true, we don't want to listen to you or we don't believe you. That's on anyone. I completely believe that. You believe that somebody who's a public figure like yourself or Ms. Pete is 100% immune to defamation just because they are, in fact, a public figure? no I want to be respectful of your time Mr. Allen you asked me if we could go off the record at 1220
Starting point is 02:02:30 it is 1220 now so that's what I'd like to this is a lot of shit I kid you now there's a lot of BS yeah I think we came back with another one yeah it's a lot of shit chat and then the next one is like five hours like I don't even know if y'all want to watch all that Is it this?
Starting point is 02:02:51 Yeah, this is it. Oh, man. For the record. I don't mention it to. Yeah, yeah. But other than that, she's kind of like been absent from my orbit. They're not,
Starting point is 02:03:02 but not, but now, the record, because I think, now three hours into this, they asked me about Milago. Three hours. Shut us out.
Starting point is 02:03:10 So this is three hours into it. Okay. Um, did you have any communications, an apology? if I asked this question already, but did you have any communications with members of his legal team during the course of the trial? No, I don't talk to his lawyers. Never have. What about members of his family?
Starting point is 02:03:32 I don't know, nobody in this family, honestly. So you've never spoken to Sunstar Peterson? I've seen from the media that's his father now. Okay. Do you know who Caesar McDowell is? Um, yeah. And he's the CEO of UTP or Unite the People. Is that what you understand? Now, by the way, I don't know this nigga.
Starting point is 02:03:59 Um, but I'm going to have to skip past some shit because they put up what they call his documents from a protective order. They seized that niggas phone. So they took his phone and they have his text messages and they're going to put a bunch of his text messages between him and Milagra. Well, maybe I shouldn't say what it is, right? Because they got a bunch of shit, right? Let's just say that.
Starting point is 02:04:21 So, um, let me not mention. Did you have occasion to speak to him during the course of Mr. Lanes's criminal trial? No. In your communications with Mr. Lanes, since he's been incarcerated, did you ever speak about this case, which is to say the case that Miss Pete has brought against Malagro Cooper. Nah, me and Tori never even spoke about Milagro.
Starting point is 02:04:59 That's what I'm so interested while I'm here. You've never had any conversations with him whatsoever. Definitely got some essential water in there, chat. About Malagro Cooper? Hell, though. Why do you say hell no? Because in the grand scheme of things, of things that he would want my attention for and I would want his attention for,
Starting point is 02:05:20 Malagra was like, you know, with all to respect, it's just not something we talk about. You know, I don't know their relationship, lack thereof, or how, whatever. I'd find it amusing or odd if Tori actually said, hey, listen, Milagro.
Starting point is 02:05:40 I was like, huh? The only time he's ever talked to me about it was before. Anything ever happened? This is after quarantine radio. He said, wanted to do a podcast. No, he had mentioned a podcast, too. Me, him, and Malagro. Then Joe Button mentioned it, too.
Starting point is 02:05:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were charged, I ain't going to cap on you. I'm going to take this on the screen for a second to make sure I don't, like, go to any document. Nah, I don't know. They were pissed off. What is that? And again, you don't ask my cursing. Thing.
Starting point is 02:06:09 One in the history of time. Oh. It discharged a few times. Oh, they asked me. Okay. In some street, apparently the car was stopped a little bit into. Here we go. For me to understand, oh, here we go, here we go.
Starting point is 02:06:23 Especially one that's lying about something of that carries that much gravity. Here we go. Okay. Oh, by the way, you know what they do? So after I say that Meg Nis Dalyan is a liar, mad times, they bring up an article. They got all type of exhibits. Well, if you say Meg is a liar because she told a lie before and you feel it's cool to call her a liar all the time. Have you not lied?
Starting point is 02:06:52 So they bring up the LeBron thing, right? Remember I talked about LeBron? And then I was just like, Kai had called me. I think I was in Costa Rica or something. And I was like, oh, Kai, listen, man, people want to believe it's a lot. Fuck it, man. I'm going to go with that because I love LeBron. Hey, listen.
Starting point is 02:07:04 Hey, you know, I'm going to just leave that there. You know, they was trying to get me to go back into LeBron shit. And they were like, well, were you telling the truth about LeBron? I'm like, oh, y'all want me to say some shit in this depot to now y'all could be like, oh, no, I came back and doubled down on the LeBron. But, you know, I dittie bop that. Well, let me not say dittiebob. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:07:23 I hauled them shaked out of that shit. It's kind of good. But they were attacking the idea of me feeling she's a liar and not ever believe in her because I've seen her lie. And they're trying to say to me, well, you've said you have made me lied. And they use the LeBron thing, which, by the way, again, I'm just not going to go down that road no more. but because I know there's a lot of Braun fans or whatever, but anyway. So they wanted me to make a statement about the Braun thing. And then they kind of come back into the Tory shit again.
Starting point is 02:08:06 So not only did I believe she was not shot initially. I believe she was not shot by Tori because if you're not shot by the movie. Oh, here we go, here we go. A person who would lie about the circumstances. Inclusion of all of the evidence, you maintain the same belief that Tory Lane's did not shoot Megyn the Stallion. Yes.
Starting point is 02:08:27 Okay. From the time between when before the trial criminal trial started and when the criminal trial concluded, did you learn anything new
Starting point is 02:08:39 that substantiated your belief that you held previously that Tory Lane's did not shoot Megan Pete? The biggest thing I learned was that you, that Meg and
Starting point is 02:08:52 was a person who would lie about the circumstances of the situation. That's the most important part. Yo, she gets so tight every time I do that, bro. Every time I say that, she's so tight. That was not the assignment. The assignment was, go get academics on record in a deposition saying, I never thought that Meg lied. I was just over here overwhooping just to get some views.
Starting point is 02:09:20 No, I don't think this chick is a credible. I think she's a liar. And I think she's a liar based on what I've seen. So, you know, I'm a little bit confused by that, Mr. Allen, and I'll tell you why. Because you told me that your belief from Jump Street that Megan Pete was not shot by Torrey Lanes was based in the fact that you thought she was a liar. So I guess my question is, how did you determine that she was a liar from Jump Street if one of the new pieces of information that you just told me you gathered? between the start and the finish of the trial was that she lied about certain circumstances. Again, you're you're jumbling up two times.
Starting point is 02:10:03 So when the incident first happened, I was one of the first media outlets reported on it. It was reported that she stepped on glass. So I believe that she was not shot. Okay? So not only did I believe she was not shot initially. I believe she was not shot by Tori because if you're not shot, you're not shot by anyone. Then after he was then arrested. for shooting her, right?
Starting point is 02:10:25 And with the conclusion of trial, with everything I saw, what I then came to, with my own opinion, is that Megastalian is a liar. And I don't believe what a liar says, especially one that's lying about something that carries that much gravity. And that's how initially, and I hope this is good for clarification,
Starting point is 02:10:46 initially I believe she did not get shot by Tori because initially I didn't believe she got shot. I do believe she got shot by the end I just don't believe it was by Tori I believe she's a liar I think that's clear okay in the sole basis of your belief Bout
Starting point is 02:11:02 Give them belt That it wasn't Tori Who shot her it was Some Get some essential I'm gonna let this play Because I don't think they're gonna bring no exhibits up right now Anybody else some scuffle
Starting point is 02:11:15 Is just because you believe Megan Pete to be a liar No I said that's one of the biggest reasons there were just multiple other other reasons that again not everything was or is either testimony or submitted evidence some of our didn't get submitted into evidence or wasn't testified to at the time and a lot of it is being a reasonable person saying does this make sense and I've always said this it doesn't make sense. So again, this is how I came to my opinion. Do you have an understanding as to why certain evidence, whether it's a criminal trial or a civil trial, is admitted and other evidence is not?
Starting point is 02:12:06 I do. Do you have an understanding as to how the various rules or doctrines of evidence work across the jurisdictions in the United States? I think I have a good understanding. I think I've a good understand it. Okay. So you understand then, if you think you have a good understanding, that one of the reasons
Starting point is 02:12:31 why evidence may not be admitted during a trial is due to reliability concerns, right? I agree. So there is often the case that people talk about evidence that was not admitted to trial, and the reason why it was not admitted to trial is because it was unreliable. I agree. What are the various, I think the phrase you used was various things, but if I got that wrong,
Starting point is 02:13:05 you can correct me, but what are the various things that you believe pointed you to your conclusion that Tory Lanes did not shoot Megan the stallion other than the statement you've made repeatedly today that you believe Ms. Pete is a liar. It's a good question. So for me to understand, and again, this is, you know, remember, and I got to remind you with this because I know what you're going to do,
Starting point is 02:13:30 you're asking my opinion, not what's court. You're asking my opinion. For me to believe anything, if right now you told me your dog got kidnapped in the Hudson River while you're on a raft, the first thing I'm going to say, how did you get on a raft in Hudson River? Like, I'm going to ask some background questions. So for me, with the entire situation, it's more than just what was admissible in court is, does this story make sense?
Starting point is 02:13:52 I've heard the story multiple times. I've heard this story in length multiple times. They go to a party. Meg is invited by Kylie Jenner. She's there with her best friend. She's there with a stylist. Tori eventually gets kind of like almost like a third party invitation. he pulls up and they're all drinking.
Starting point is 02:14:13 Kelsey gets pretty inebriated to the point. She looks like she's almost blacked out. These are all things that are going to matter to me. Maybe not to the jury. It's going to matter to me. So, okay, all that happens. Meg is a report, well, supposedly, and I've spoken to some people that supposedly, you know,
Starting point is 02:14:32 they were there or they heard this and third. Meg supposedly was getting a little loud. She got into, like, you know, little arguments. A little small arguments here or there. But for me, I took from that, this is a sign of intoxication. Tori gets there. He's a small guy, even though he's a rapper that probably lives a lifestyle that has a higher tolerance. If he's drinking and we saw them on Instagram live in a pool, I could see where his tolerance is going to get him inebriated as well.
Starting point is 02:14:58 I believe all three are inebriated. I believe that the bodyguard slash the driver, Jaquan, I believe he's the only one that's sober. And again, this is why I keep saying my opinion, because my opinion is going to shape everything. Tori's a man who screwing two women, two women who did not know that they were, first of all, Meg allegedly, right? And I'm going off just the reports that seemingly Kelsey has confirmed
Starting point is 02:15:21 even on this song. Meg was screwing her man behind her back. You know, typical Houston chick behavior. You get what I'm saying? Typical. That's their forte. Trust me, don't ask me I know. But so that's happening.
Starting point is 02:15:33 Now, fix them eyebrows. Fix them eyebrows when I'm getting my streamer mode because now I'm about to give you out of story. I'm gonna give you out a story. I usually get paid for this. We usually got about 1520K on every platform when we're doing this. But now you're gonna get it. Rock Nation, you wanted it.
Starting point is 02:15:49 I'm gonna give you out of, I'm gonna give you our big act. Now big act is coming home. Big act just dropped, dropped in the fucking deposition. And out, Tori's being extrad, extra because he had, and again, remember this is my opinion because this is how I'm coming up with all my, everything I'm coming up with in terms of the narrative. Tori had an issue with Kylie Jenner's
Starting point is 02:16:09 baby daddy who is Travis Scott So he wants to Still get a one-up He's there There's two women he's had sex with They don't know He's also doing a lot with another woman Because he's thinking about a rat beef
Starting point is 02:16:21 Maybe you could You know get a one-up on this guy Meg calls it out They get a little bit into it From what it's even testified in court Tori Meg And I guess really Megan
Starting point is 02:16:34 Tori asked to leave Okay It was seen as almost Meg, but whatever. I'll just say the group is asked to leave, right? Somehow they get the, you know, intoxicated Kelsey and they all leave. When they all leave, that is the point where it all kicks off. I've been in those situations where, hey, she didn't know that you were doing this with her. It's going to be World War 5 in that car.
Starting point is 02:16:59 So I've never bought the narrative that, oh, this is just a, oh, she just found out that she's been screwing her man for, for months and it's all chill but until she says to tory you're a short guy that doesn't have a really lucrative music career then he's like i'm gonna shoot you that car was probably filled with hey how long it's been going on yo you not ish you not ish and that's how this story and all this matters in how i'm going to think about this because i need to figure out a motive why to hell with Tory Lanes, who's a man who I've watched him in situations with other men, where maybe a weapon or other violent means was available to it. Why he ain't you with them?
Starting point is 02:17:41 Right? I've seen, like, he's been with many other women. Why he issued them? What was so special? And, oh, is this the first time he drank alcohol? Absolutely not. Why he issued somebody then? So making it make sense to me in a narrative sense.
Starting point is 02:17:56 And for me, I cared a lot more about the narrative than what happened because the only sober a person never talked and we don't have no clear video and the audio depicts three shots then a pause and two what i've always said these women are fighting each other because that's how it happens when women find out a guy ain't ish they don't fight the man they both fight each other that's how it go down okay kelsey got all the type of marks on her foot she never was which by the i think you know i always thought tory's legal team was very they were in that you know i mean maybe maybe you should have got somebody at uh quentin and a man he well they're gonna y'all could have probably did a better job. But they should ask the obvious question. Why the heck is this woman have
Starting point is 02:18:34 scratches and marks? And she didn't testify even to the fact saying he dragged all of these injuries were from him, even though she didn't admit to some physicality. So what was never brought up in trial that I always thought based on the narrative, these women were clearly fighting each other. And by the way, I believe Sean Kelly did mention that. Sean Kelly, or one of the witnesses did mention that they saw two women fighting, which was never like looked whatever. So two women are fighting. Okay. In some street, apparently the car was stopped before because Meg wanted to get out, but she eventually got back in the car. But eventually the car stopped. Two women are fighting. It doesn't make sense to me that Tori grabs the gun and shoots at one woman
Starting point is 02:19:17 five times and misses all five shots because at least based on the injuries, right? I do believe she got hit with bullets, but I believe the bullets ricocheted off the pavement. I don't know if he's that. I know he's drunk, but I don't know if he's that bad of a shot. You shoot somebody who couldn't be more than 10 to 20 feet away. You miss five times. So what I believe,
Starting point is 02:19:39 what most likely would be the issue, who has the most likelihood of wanting to shoot the other woman? Maybe if you put Meg and Kelsey side by side, you'll see that there's a vast difference in size. What I think was happening, Meg was tossing around like a rag doll. And then they were fighting. again, I'm even open to be wrong on how the gun came into play in terms of who pulled the gun out first because it was in a car.
Starting point is 02:20:07 But I wholeheartedly believe that woman pointed the gun at Meg. And what Tori did, Tori tried to wrestle the gun away. It discharged a few times. Clear didn't shoot her directly, but it did ricochet off the pavement and obviously some shrapnel hitter. but still, based on that belief of how I believe that went down to say that, hey, this dude hopped out after we just found out he's been screwing both of us. And it says dance, bitch, dance, and just shot me. I'm not believing that. Also, here's the thing.
Starting point is 02:20:48 One in the history of time. And again, I'm using a lot of common sense things to make up my opinion because things got to make sense. you're telling me that Tori does that, tries to execute you on some road in Hollywood, in Hollywood, and your best friend doesn't talk to you after that day or after that instant y'all fall out. How is that a thing? How is that never explained?
Starting point is 02:21:10 So there's so much things that lead me to think, yeah, you'd have to be a really fucked up person. I apologize for my cursing, but you've got to be a really effed up person to watch your friend almost get executed. And then sit, sit there and basically don't throw this guy underneath the jail unless maybe
Starting point is 02:21:31 there was some culpability that you had. And also, she was granted immunity or use immunity at least. So again, I have to think that whatever story that, you know, obviously the jury did agree with and they convicted him off, it ain't just as black and white as that. And again, you know, we could play the technicality game all day where it's like, did Tory have the gun in his because even in my argument, oh, he, he's grabbing a gun from her and the gun goes off.
Starting point is 02:21:56 If he grabs the gun, technically he's still guilty of the crime. You know, so he has to act like he never did nothing. But common sense and he's never told me he ever did none or not. But it all points to there was a struggle for a gun. Gunshots go off.
Starting point is 02:22:12 The woman gets hurt. Y'all think y'all could cover it up. Tori's trolling online. She feels offended and she flips the script on him. This other chick who thought it was going to go away. She and Tori's, She and Meg, their relationship fall out.
Starting point is 02:22:26 She gets immunity later. She's out. I thought she was trying to protect Tori. And protect her. I don't know what's going on. But one thing I don't believe is the narrative of what Meg, the victim, has been trying to do is say, oh, no, this guy just flat out trying to execute me. I don't believe that for one second. And I would probably believe it a little bit more if she was way more forthcoming saying, hey, listen, me and this guy, we had this relationship.
Starting point is 02:22:50 This is how these things happen. her story didn't make sense then for me some of her statements were still a bit inconsistent or jumping all over the place because she never addressed the fight on the stand and then by the end I was just like
Starting point is 02:23:04 I'm gonna be honest with you I'm throwing this entire thing out I think this woman is just incapable of telling the truth and that's where I'm coming up with that but those are the other factors or the narrative that has led me to believe hey Tori didn't do this or to or tories in jail because of not the reason that we believe he should be in jail for right like and shoot i've been waiting
Starting point is 02:23:31 if there was ever a video that came out that showcased tory just aiming at her and trying to shoot this woman i wouldn't be supporting tory at all you think mr allen that absent a video it is impossible to convict somebody of a crime no okay um but the narrative has to make sense I got it. I've heard quite a bit of an explanation that you suggest has been grounded in your common sense. But what I didn't hear and what I'll ask you to provide is a single piece of any kind of admissible evidence or proof that anything that you just said is true. Do you have it? Okay.
Starting point is 02:24:23 Objection up to form. Shorty, sassy, but I's got to give it a belt still. The belt got to be given. So again, you're once again trying to argue legally about my opinion. But I'll give you a little bit of that. No, Mr. Allen, I'm not trying to argue about your opinion. I'm trying to ask you what the basis for your opinion is, telling me I have an opinion, and I just made it up, and therefore it's my opinion, and I can have it,
Starting point is 02:24:51 is not, is not, it's not the case. What I'm asking you, what's the basis for your opinion? You haven't told me. Okay. Do you have one? Okay, so good. So the basis for my opinion, number one is narrative. I just gave you the narrative.
Starting point is 02:25:04 Number two, I do, I do find it rather odd that, and again, based off this theory I have, my theory would have been easily dispelled if they said, oh, we did a GSR test, which is a gunshot residue test on both, Tori and Meg and voila she was clean there was no gun fired in her vicinity except that was not presented or I've never seen or heard any evidence of her having been tested and being cleared for I meant Kelsey by the way we're gonna we're gonna correct any gunshot residue so that goes exactly to my theory right second of all all right cool you know at first we hear this hey listen you're saying that you would have liked to see a GSR
Starting point is 02:25:51 test done, not just on Tori, but on Megan as well? No, Kelsey. Did I say, Megan? I'm going to be Kelsey. Yes. Megan. Yes, Megan. No, no, not Megan. Kelsey is. I keep make some names. Kelsey Harris. Yes. Of course. Because in my theory, they're struggling for the gun. Tori's trying to stop it. In your theory, they're struggling for the guns. Yes. That's your theory. Okay, okay. But the way that's not, but hold on. But your theory hasn't been proven by.
Starting point is 02:26:21 anybody has it again you're you're you're asking no it's just a mr mr. Alan it's a it's a yes or no question your theory has not been proven or disproven or disproven or disproven objection as to form or this is your fear one at a time one at a time please your theory has not been proven to be true correct yes or disproven okay um And what has been proven to a jury was what Megan told the jury happened and what the jury accepted based on the evidence, which you don't seem to have. Well, they consider the evidence.
Starting point is 02:27:10 Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Not done with the question. So let's try this again so that the record's clear. I feel like you're testifying here because you're not asking questions. You're literally giving me this.
Starting point is 02:27:21 this chunk of a declarative statement than asking like, is this yes or no? You're basically like testifying. Mr. Allen. You can do this in actual court. I know there's a deposition, but you know you couldn't do this in actual court, right? Would you like to tell me how to conduct my job? Well, have you done a criminal case?
Starting point is 02:27:40 Yes, I have. But here's what I would like to say to you. I will be able to ask you whatever questions I deem appropriate. and I ask that you respond to them. And I also ask that you not tell me how to do my job. Do you think you can handle that? Well, if you want to ask the same question over and over, sure. I guess you're working on our time.
Starting point is 02:27:59 So let's actually try. I have one thing to say too. Can you pause a little bit so if I want to object, I can put my objection in and then you can speak when you answer one of her questions. Thank you. Yo, Meg, keep sending them lawyers, man. We're going to send them back on a nice, I'm extremely embarrassed. Meg, I wasn't even talking about you for the longest.
Starting point is 02:28:24 I ain't going to lie. You look stupid and like a liar after you got your little birdbrain attorneys running up here. And by the way, Desiree Perez, I don't know if you want to smoke with me. Actually, I don't really want to smoke with you because you're too powerful. But sure, I don't got no problem with you. It seemed like you got some interest on this. Desiree, I'm going to give you a little olive branch. I think you are upset that, and it's not me doing it, that grand and them be pulling them, posting your daughter shit. If you hit me directly and say,
Starting point is 02:28:53 act, I will give a truce between me and rock nation. We will have no more beef. We won't post about your daughter. I don't give a fuck about that. Okay. So I like to address the real people, but y'all's setting the pup over here.
Starting point is 02:29:07 She's highly emotional. The eyebrows look like, I don't know what's going on with it. She got, she looked like she and her feelings. Meg, you look like a bigger liar today than you did yesterday. It is what it is.
Starting point is 02:29:19 I don't know if this was a good look. I just don't know if it's a good look. By the way, all these lawsuits being filed on behalf of Meg is trying to make it, is trying to create, it's a fearmongering tactic to try to tell bloggers speak nicely of her or else you're going to get sued. Well, I don't know why you'd want to act in the deposition because I'm going to sit here and argue with you, make content about it. And even if you sue me, I'm going to make content about everything with that.
Starting point is 02:29:48 Because we got to pay them legal fees. Okay? I get a you get the three stooges or whoever the fuck you got at Quinn Emanuel, down to just because I guess you got them on whatever retainer down to file any type of frivolous suit. But Meg, if you don't realize by now, this was a bad look. You're dumber than I thought you were. This was a bad fucking look. But okay, it's all good. Sure.
Starting point is 02:30:18 So we've established that your fear. Also, if you're going to get attorneys, get the ones that's not emotional. Get the ones that's not emotional. You gotta get the ones that not emotional. Your narrative that you've just explained, Mr. Allen, has not yet been proven, right? Yes. Okay. But there is a story that has been proven, correct? Objection has to form?
Starting point is 02:30:50 No. No. Okay. So you don't believe that there is, is an explanation of the events that happen on July 12th, 2020 that has been proven to be true? I know he was found guilty of, but the story? Oh, we don't know what happened. I mean, you could bring me through the details because I don't know what happened. You don't. You would agree with me that a jury of 12 disagrees with you about whether or not we know what happened that night, right? A jury of 12 agrees that Tori shot her
Starting point is 02:31:29 That's all like there's no agree with No, that's all they say That's all they said I feel like you're putting words in a jury's mouth A verdict doesn't mean Doesn't mean they agree with everything It's what was alleged Did he shoot her?
Starting point is 02:31:46 Yes, the jury agrees with that But everything else you're trying to lump in it No no no and for me it's much larger than that. Sir Alan, let me understand this correctly. You fundamentally disagree with what the jury determined, right? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 02:32:02 So your explanation that you say supports your disagreement with the jury's determination. Has not been proven, right? Okay. Okay. But the jury accepted an explanation of a, events that occurred that night, which resulted in the jury finding, contrary to you, that Mr. Lanes shot Megan the Stallion, correct? They found that...
Starting point is 02:32:33 They found that... In their opinion, they did believe that he shot her, yes. Okay. I think earlier we talked about an individual by the name of Caesar McDowell. Do you remember me asking you questions about him? Yeah. Okay. When is the last time that you spoke to Mr. McDowell?
Starting point is 02:32:57 Never spoken to this guy. Have you ever been in communication with him ever? He's emailed me documents and briefs that I guess they filed on behalf of Tori. And, yeah, you know, but I'm a press outlet. I get those emails from PR people all the time. But there's no, hey, send me this or, hey, let's talk about this. he sent it to me like you would probably send to hip hop dx he would probably send to double ex or whoever else so so email that's not responded to what exactly did he email you hey this was filed today in court PDF so did he only send you documents that were filed in court during the criminal trial no well i i've only known about this guy in the appeal so i don't know if he was around in the in the criminal trial so So in them putting up their, you know, briefs in the appellate stage, they have said,
Starting point is 02:34:01 hey, listen, we file this because I used to be one of the content creators who would try to get these documents to fully break down, rather than going off what either Variety said or TMZ. I wanted to read the whole thing. I don't know if he watches me or whatever, but he would just send me the thing that I could just have the document on hand, which I appreciate it. When is the last time that you received an email communication from Mr. McDowell? I believe probably was around the time of that press conference. I think we had got like some either a declaration and there was another filing that was associated with the declaration, a declaration of Kwan, I believe.
Starting point is 02:34:43 But yet, I had gotten those documents. Lena, can we please mark as Exhibit 120? Okay. I can't show this. So that's going to have the, that's going to have, that's going to have, what do you call it again? The thing that's in the protective order. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:35:17 I want to show you all this. This is it. I just skip three hours. So there's like three hours. But like, y'all want to see. Hold on. I'm going to show you when they leak the email. Watch this.
Starting point is 02:35:49 You got to see my face. Like, this is what I realized. I'm like, oh, this is the B team. Oh. Oh, it's movie time. Oh, it's movie time. There we go. Finally said he never spent a dollar.
Starting point is 02:36:01 Oh, they start asking me about Drake again. Oh, they start asking me about Drake. Oh, you want to hear what they? They start asking about Drake and Grand Wizard. Saying if Drake ever spent money, like, if it's Drake paying Grand Wizard. This is some day-free bullshit, bro. Here we go. Ever said that Tori is the one who shot Megan publicly?
Starting point is 02:36:25 Have I said that? To the best of my knowledge, no. But in trying to rationalize and I've kind of hypothesized what may have happened, I probably have, honestly. Let's mark this exhibit. I'm sorry, Mr. Allen. Oh, all right. Let's mark as Exhibit 138 tab number 22A, Elena, please.
Starting point is 02:36:49 Okay, okay. I got to take some of the script. And if there's a transcript, we'll mark it as 139. Oh, I don't think of that's true? There is. Okay. Yeah. And while we're waiting for that, Mr. Allen, I did have a couple more questions about the
Starting point is 02:37:10 Grand Wizard chat account. I think this morning you told me that you don't know the individual who runs that account. Is that what you said this morning? I think you've also taken that context. Knowing meaning have I spoke to him, yes. Do I know his government name and have I met him no? Okay. And do you know whether or not the person who runs the Grand Wizard chat account
Starting point is 02:37:38 has ever been associated with an account called OvoGrand dollar sign? Called what? OVO Grand. Yo, you have an account called OVOGrant? OVOGrand dollar sign? I have no knowledge of that. Okay. What about OVO Grand?
Starting point is 02:38:03 I think that's a nickname of his. I don't know if that's a real account. Do you believe it's a nickname of the individual who runs the Grand Wizard Chat account? Yeah. Why do you believe that that's a nickname? for him. Because everybody who likes Drake, people just usually colloquially call OVO, whatever your name. I'm pretty sure they call me OVO academics.
Starting point is 02:38:24 You know, everyone. Because OVO is Drake's record label, right? Yes, it's Drake's record label. Okay. Have you ever do you know? Weirdo. Do you know whether or not the individual who runs the Grand Wizard chat? Embarrassing.
Starting point is 02:38:41 That account has ever been associated with the handle certified lover grand? Yo, Grand, you got an account called Certified LoverGrand? Certified Loverd is crazy. That is kind of fires. No, so no to both of those last questions, but that's not even been a nickname of it. I don't know where that would be from. Are you aware of whether or not the individual who runs the Grand Wizard chat handle, whether or not his Instagram account was hacked earlier this year?
Starting point is 02:39:20 I believe he was hacked, yeah. Do you know any information about what was hacked? I would guess an Instagram account? Do you know that his DMs were leaked? I know things were leaked. I'm not too sure if those things were actually true. based on public reporting did it come to your
Starting point is 02:39:49 I guess did it come into your purview that what was leaked appeared to be DMs between the person who runs that account and Drake yeah it appeared to be that yeah did you ever talk to Drake about this information about the hack? Yeah did he
Starting point is 02:40:08 did he give you any indication whether or not there was truth to him communicating with the individual who runs the Grand Wizard chat account? Drake loves Grant and Grant loves Drake. So Drake has significant influence with... I'm sorry, you phase off a little bit there. Drake has... Drake loves Grant. Grant loves Drake.
Starting point is 02:40:33 Drake has significant influence on social media. And I think he uses influence to make sure his account was okay. but, you know, we never had conversation about any of the content that was supposedly either put out whether that was true or not. Did Drake other tell you one way or another if he paid to help secure Grand Wizards account? I believe he said he did, but he was trolling. He said it was trolling later. No, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:41:08 He said he was. No, no. So he said, I'll get a story. Me and him, we were trying to get back Grant's account. We had a race on who would do it first. Drake won. And then someone told me, hey, Drake paid to get it back. And Drake actually hit me up to say he didn't. So actually, he defiantly said he never spent a dollar. And the account was restored without any payment made. So that was good. But you were also making efforts to help restore the account for the Grand Wizard, the person who runs the Grand Wizard account? He's a very good guy. Is that a yes? Yes. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 02:41:49 So we could pull up the exhibit Elena. It's Grandy. It's a really good guy. You know? Exhibit 138. Not this where they fuck up. Okay. That was the video.
Starting point is 02:42:03 That was 22A. So could you give me a top? number? Yeah. Tab 22A, please. That's 22A that I just had up. No, it was not.
Starting point is 02:42:19 138. Okay, that was... So this is the first fuck-up they did. Here we go. You know, I'm here for it. And this is why they brought Drake name up. So they got this inner Slack Convo with all the Rot Nation lawyers
Starting point is 02:42:43 and this way they fuck up. They're like, we're going to bring up an exhibit. So, all right, let me see the Exhibit. Now, the only reason I'm showing this is because it's not an exhibit. This is actually their slack where the where the rock nation lawyers are talking about Drake and OVO. Here we go. So she shares a screen. Here we go. So FYI so no one wasted their time. This video is useful is not useful for deposition. Just funny. I don't know what video this is. And then Julian says, L.OLLL. Atlanta says it's dropping this in case useful earlier later. Damn, Atlanta. This was my girl.
Starting point is 02:43:24 So this is DJ Academics testimony about the DNA tweet. Okay. And then Julian says OVO. Why he spelled OVO like that? What? Yo, y'all plodding on me and a boy? Yo, what's good with y'all? That's not at all.
Starting point is 02:43:44 You hear me? You hear me? Oh, it's movie time. Oh, it's movie time. Oh, the lawyers are fucking up. Oh, it's movie time. Wait. Oh, it's movie time.
Starting point is 02:43:57 Oh, it's movie time. It's movie time. Thank you. Y'all came for info from me. Hey, y'all give you. Y'all want an info from me, but y'all gave info to me. Not a problem. Oh, it's movie time.
Starting point is 02:44:17 Look. Look at Joe. Got more than I thought we would on that. That's not at the way. I thought we were going with 22A. Please take that down. Oh, please take it down. Please take it down.
Starting point is 02:44:31 Oh, it's movie time. Oh, come on. Look at my face. I think that was for your eyes only, huh? I think that was for your eyes only. I do think it was. Y'all can't get, y'all can make it think of who's, you know what I mean? I'm hours off that, you know, that essential, that essential water, you know?
Starting point is 02:44:58 I hold that essential, yeah, yeah. Take that down. Take that down. Now, take that down. Take that down. Take that down. No, no, say that right now. Take it down right now.
Starting point is 02:45:09 Take that shit down. You know what I said? I think that was for your eyes only. What exhibit will we break? That's not at length. I thought we were going with 22. Okay. Please take that down.
Starting point is 02:45:28 Okay. I think that was for your eyes only, huh? Yo, chat. You know when you got a back door, the back door? Chat. One in the chat, if you've ever had. to install a back door for the back door. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:45:57 Oh, you got a back door to back door. You got a back door to back door. It's all good. It's all good. Here we go. Now, she gets mad at Lelina. What exhibit will be? Exhibit 138.
Starting point is 02:46:17 Hilarious. Okay, that was the video. That was 228. That wasn't the video, girl. You showed your DMs with the other lawyers. So could you give me a tab number? Yeah. Tab 22A, please.
Starting point is 02:46:34 That's 22A that I just had up. No, it was not. Do not fire the black girl, please. I like her. I like her. Even though you campaign against me right now, Elena. You know, like, I know you're doing it for your job. you're not one of these serpents
Starting point is 02:47:00 okay it's okay girl oh look at her face oh damn nah she ain't will lose her job she'll lose her job um
Starting point is 02:47:14 nah she pan again I want to put it back up but that's what I have this 22A she pan again okay please pull 22A hey I'll do it
Starting point is 02:47:30 hey Quinn Emmanuel if I fire her I'm claiming that racist that racist Got backdoor the back door Hold on one second I gotta open the video
Starting point is 02:47:50 I feel bad Oh Oh she feels Oh Elena We rock with you Don't let it do y'all Do you like that
Starting point is 02:48:00 Look at me I'm thinking I might have to hire her man Look at this little smirk on my face Oh duh You know You know what I was saying on my face I don't know if y'all caught it
Starting point is 02:48:15 about a minute ago you're gonna see me I looked up timestamped that bitch I'm like caught y'all liking that's all I need you want to see when I timestamped you don't see what I timestamped it
Starting point is 02:48:27 here you hit a timestamp you see that typing right there that that's 22A that I just had up here you know it was not look at me timestamp that bitch yeah I got y'all embarrassing
Starting point is 02:48:42 I got y'all I got y'all I got y'all Let's just make a note. That was a timestamp right there. That was a timestamp right there. Oh, it's movie time. It's movie time.
Starting point is 02:49:00 Is she panicking? Lacking. Caught you lacking on that one. I'm sorry. Sorry. Just watch me. I'm like, I don't want to put it back up,
Starting point is 02:49:14 but that's what I have is 22A. Look at me. Oh, it's movie time. Okay. Please pull 22. a I'll do it. Oh, the lawyer man or the main lawyer because you're both lawyers.
Starting point is 02:49:27 I'll do it. All right, let's hear her do it. She's tight. She's so tight. Look at her. Hold on one second. I got to open the video. Oh, it's movie time.
Starting point is 02:49:52 We got bond tent. I'll sit here with you. Oh, okay. We take it off for a second. Okay. I'm not going to show you what the video they were trying to play. Even though there's a public.
Starting point is 02:50:07 available video I ain't go a lot. There's an Instagram live or something. But you're gonna fuck up. We can't hear the audio. I just pause in it for a second because I want to test if you can actually hear it, Mr. Allen. No audio. No audio. You can hear it?
Starting point is 02:50:26 No audio. Gavin, can you please share? Thank you. Oh, here we go. We got bomb tent. There we go. This is all them fucking exhibits. Okay.
Starting point is 02:50:46 Let's keep it going. Bring up the chat. Oh. Oh, it's movie time. Did it again. It's movie time. OVO's just making sure she's sharing the right screen. She panicking up here again because she's like, bitch, you're doing the same thing I did.
Starting point is 02:51:12 You know, I'm up here. You see me with the head tilted to the side? That's my dog's Pluto favorite thing when he's trying to understand what the fuck going on. What the hell? When Pluto's looking to see what the fuck going on, I don't know why he do this. He tilted his head like this. So you see me go like this?
Starting point is 02:51:31 I'm like my dog. I'm tilted to say, what the fuck is going on? Oh, this is how, oh, this is the, oh, y'all brought me into the group chat. Y'all brought me into the group chat. Oh, it's movie time. Okay. That would it be?
Starting point is 02:51:47 It would be 22A. Look at her face. Oh my God, we're doing it again. Which way? You're still sharing your screen. I'm sorry. It's movie time, man. Okay.
Starting point is 02:52:07 I'm going to go back a little bit. Chat, we got to edit all this up. I'm going to take out anything that is, is anything that's, quote, quote, protected, even though it's a civil case, but fine. Like, you know what I mean? I respect the court. I want to take out anything that is protected,
Starting point is 02:52:22 which is going to be exhibited. whatever the case is, but my conversation with them, there is going to be a transcript that's leaked. There was video orders given to the defendant, which is Milagro's lawyer, and also the plaintiff, which is Rock Nation and Megan Pint, you know, their attorneys, Quinn, so they have videos of this. Here's the thing. I got nothing, I got nothing to gain. You know how they serve me this? They served me this and they gave me $101. I don't know why they gave me money, because I asked the process server because I was out there watching the Mayback. And I said, why y'all give me money with the service letter?
Starting point is 02:53:01 I've gotten served before. I've never gotten money. They said, this is a witness fee. And I'm like, oh, they think I'm a cheap hope. $100. I said, no, we got content. So I really did this because I said, you know what? I needed some good content.
Starting point is 02:53:16 And yes, I'm going to stretch this motherfucker. Okay, I'm sorry to say. So again, Rock Nation, hopefully I got what you. I want. Milagra, hopefully you got what you want, but Big Aged got what he wanted, and we got content. Fuck it. Let's see what else they got got. End of defamation, but yeah, that is definitely
Starting point is 02:53:33 problematic. Let me, I'm going to take it off because I'm going to skip the goal. It's already off, sorry. In person. Did you speak to Mr. Byas? They asked me if I've talked to every Tory lawyer. I'm like, I don't talk to these niggas. What you're talking about where you say that
Starting point is 02:53:49 sometimes you don't even have to wait for the label to come to you because there's an editorial element of it. Do you recall that happening around the time of Mr. Lanes's trial? Oh, okay, okay, I'll go to this. Like, I actually, and I listen to a lot of his music, I didn't take that into my. They were trying to see if Tori was paying me for music release. Well, I told him Tori never paid me to put out on against Meg.
Starting point is 02:54:10 So they're like, did Tori pay you for music releases? I'm like, I can pay for all the music releases most of times. But specifically with Tori, he didn't really pay me for music because we were paying, we're already posting his music. Because it was trending. So I'll explain that. I don't care if you, I'll see it. Here's this, and I'm not even known who it's from.
Starting point is 02:54:29 I've definitely gotten texts with documents that I didn't know who is from pertain to this case. That's absolutely true. So, but when you use the word met, that's why I said met in person, though, if you're going to consider it a meeting that someone says, hey, do you want this document, I am so-and-so, here's the document. I guess we're going to have a lot of gray area there. Okay. Do you know who, does the name Ed Welburn sound familiar to you?
Starting point is 02:55:04 Do you have a stage name? Like, these names are mentioned I've never heard of a day of my life. This person is an attorney, so I don't think he must buy a stage name. No, no, no, no, never heard of him. Have you ever communicated with anybody who works in the media that is associated with or employed by any of Tory's lawyers? I wouldn't know who they associate with their employee. Okay.
Starting point is 02:55:31 Have you ever communicated with any public relations firms or crisis communication firms about Tories or Ms. Pete? Not from my knowledge. We talked earlier about whether or not Mr. McDowell ever paid you any money and whether he offered you any money. Do you remember me asking you about that? Yeah, I do. have you ever asked Mr. McDowell to pay money for any reason? That would be impossible if I've never had a conversation with them. Okay.
Starting point is 02:56:04 Has anyone from Tori's team ever offered you any money for any reason? The only time in Tori's team have ever discussed anything is the promotion of music, which usually was ever, was always facilitated by he had a label called Create at that point. So it'd be like, hey, listen, we're doing it. campaign. Yo, I need, you know, we're trying to go big this week. I'm dropping a music video. Da, da, da, da, da.
Starting point is 02:56:31 Hey, create is going to take over. That's how, and I'm glad you asked those foundational questions earlier because that's how I work with pretty much even any artists. It's be like, hey, listen, I'll deal with your label. Your label is going to be the people who are going to send over music. Hey, here is this music. Da-da-da. Could we get it posted that everybody's posting at the same time?
Starting point is 02:56:54 Cool. But in terms of information, and I don't know if that's what you were asking, maybe in an indirect way. No, absolutely. Never talked to Caesar McDowell. Torrier's team wouldn't offer or they wouldn't even dare to be like, hey, listen, here's this for your opinion. And no, Caesar's not paid me to post anything. When did you have these communications with Tori's team about promoting his music? Throughout his whole music career.
Starting point is 02:57:25 So Tori used to be an interscope artist. I think maybe before 2020. I used to communicate with them. He worked with Create. I communicate with them. I communicate with labels pertaining to the release of music. Usually, if I ever communicate with... Are there specific periods of time that stick out in your mind
Starting point is 02:57:46 where you would have had a communication about promoting his music and then being paid for the promotion of that music? All throughout his career. So at any given moment in time throughout his career, you would have been paid. If Tori's dropped an album, sorry for cut you off, but if Tori has dropped an album since I want to say about 2016, it probably, I was probably somehow contacted by a digital person on his record label that would say, hey we want to we want your help in promoting tories records aka music and we would coordinate that way as I said this is the same way that would exist with any other artists that's rolling out
Starting point is 02:58:30 music he were you promoting any of Tori's music during the criminal trial um if he dropped if he dropped an album probably did probably did Do you recall when the album Cap was dropped? The album, what's it called? Cap? Cap? I actually...
Starting point is 02:58:53 A song cap? I know Tori's music really well and that album title even seems to evade me. I've been bumping a lot of Tori recently and trust me, I go through his albums. I've never heard that album. I've been bumping that Tori recently, man. Don't get mad at me.
Starting point is 02:59:10 Don't get mad at me. I'm bumping that new shit. I'm bumping the high. shit. Tori been really kicking and he's been doing his thing. I just didn't know about that title. They tell me Tori dropped the novel court cap. I got to go find it.
Starting point is 02:59:25 I don't know about it. That's what Rock Nation lawyers are trying to tell me. That's what Megastayan lawyer are trying tell me. I don't know about that. Yo, I got to hit up Tori's people. I need that album. I need it. Because I've been listening to Playboy. Playboy's fire. I always like the chick's tape.
Starting point is 02:59:43 I always like, you know, shit, I always like his albums, but I never heard about this one. So Rock Nation or Meg's lawyers have a secret Tory album that I don't know about because they're asking me and I don't know about it. I'm sorry. It's a new one. Do you remember a music video being released right before the trial happened by Toy Lane's? Not specifically. Do you ever remember viewing a music video by Mr. Lanes in which he was butchering a horse's leg? I did when Rock Nation. Objection as to form.
Starting point is 03:00:30 I did, but when Rock Nation put it together in a nicely, it's a great PowerPoint. Like, I actually, and I listen to a lot of his music, I didn't take that into mine when I saw it. So I probably saw the video, never took that particular scene in until Good old Rock Nation said, hey, that's, what it was doing because I've never seen a horse leg in a butcher shop. Do you know whether that video was released before the trial? I wouldn't know. I felt like I got that when I was watching. And I'm saying this Rock Nation because I kind of like lump you guys being the representatives for both Rock Nation and Miss Pete. I think Alex Spiro put together a nice little PowerPoint where he was detailing how Tori was antagonistic.
Starting point is 03:01:24 And I think that was one of the first time. I'm like, oh, wait, Tori did that. That's wild. So I didn't put it to mind before then. But did I see the video? Maybe I did see the video. That scene never stuck out as, hey, this is a horse's leg he's butchering. You said that you couldn't recall if there was music that was released around the time of the trial.
Starting point is 03:01:45 but if there was, you would have promoted it. Do I have that about right? Yeah. Okay, and if you were promoting it around the time of the trial, you would have received compensation for that? So not necessarily. And this goes back, you know, now I'm happy you ask me these foundational questions
Starting point is 03:02:04 because I could go back on them. What happens is when an artist is already in the news. Like, for example, if Tori is on trial and he drops a music video that becomes not only just music that's just promotional, it becomes newsworthy and something that editorially we could post, we're probably going to post it before a music team comes to us to try to have us post it. Because if we're like, hey, he's taking shots at so and so and so, we're not going to be like, hey, we're not posting until they come to us with a budget.
Starting point is 03:02:42 We're going to post it most likely already just for the engagement. Hey, Tori's talking crazy. So we definitely promote his music. We post Tori Lanes at a really increased frequency. I'll tell you this. The reasons why we post him now is because our audience, they take a liking to Tory. They believe in the free Tory movement. When we post Tori, he's going to get a thousand comments.
Starting point is 03:03:08 People are going to be saying, we like this guy and we want to. out. So many times... I have a memory of what you're talking about where you say that sometimes you don't even have to wait for the label to come to you because there's an editorial element of it. Do you recall that
Starting point is 03:03:26 happening around the time of Mr. Lanes's trial that you were posting... Oh yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah, and you know, he's a smart guy. So I think he knew we won't were waiting for what he had to say. And if he said it in music in a clever way, you know, or in a way
Starting point is 03:03:42 that we were attributing into it, even like whether it as a blogger, as a fan, we were posting it. Yeah. Have you ever asked Tori or any members of his team outside the context of his label to pay you for any reason whatsoever?
Starting point is 03:04:05 Unless, no. So if I went to your banks and I subpoenaed, records from your banks or any other financial institution in which you exchange money with other individuals i won't see anybody with the last name peterson or anybody associated with tory on those records right there's never been a peterson in my bank account um yeah i've never gotten money from tory uh again it becomes a gray area because Tori was independent for a while
Starting point is 03:04:41 he was signed to an independent label and he had people on he had music people control the budget that might be associated with him but they're paying for music so if the idea is hey did he pay to has Tori like again I've said for every artist has every
Starting point is 03:04:59 artist in some way of shape or form paid for the promotion of their music yes now if we're talking about so I wouldn't I wouldn't unequivocally say he's never paid for music to go up. What I will say, he's never paid for an opinion, and he definitely hasn't paid for, hey, post this information to, I don't know, anything non-music related.
Starting point is 03:05:27 Everything we do with Tori, any business we're doing is music. We're in the business of music. This other stuff is for what we call shits and giggles. Like we're going to cry one day with Megan and laugh at her another day. We cry one day with Tori. We laugh at him another day. That's the entertainment that keeps people going from moment to moment. But every Friday, that's music day.
Starting point is 03:05:46 We love those days. They don't like when I tell the truth. Has Ray ever offered to pay you any financial compensation in exchange for posting any information? Favorable to Tori? No. No. Have you ever asked Ray? to pay you any sort of compensation, whether it's money, something over Zell, whether it's any other
Starting point is 03:06:11 thing for value, cryptocurrency, something like that. Raise a music guy. So usually we have done business. Actually, a lot of business that has nothing to do with Tori, but it's always been business that is about music. Hey, there's this guy who wants this look. Could we help with him? Hey, could we consult?
Starting point is 03:06:33 Yeah, me and him have done business, not the business of post this Tory information. Okay. I think you said that you met Ms. Cooper for the first time. When I did the podcast with her. Right. Okay. I didn't hear you. I didn't hear the answer.
Starting point is 03:06:56 Hold on. He said when he did the podcast with her. All right. So let's back up so we have a clear record. and the court reporter can get both of what we're saying. And I'll just remind you Mr. Hanna. I know sometimes I pause, but just wait until I finish the question
Starting point is 03:07:10 so that she gets both of us correctly. When did you first meet Ms. Cooper? Please remind me. At the time we did the podcast. When was that approximately? I couldn't tell you at this point. Was it in December, 22, 2021? All right.
Starting point is 03:07:33 So I'm going to skip past this. I'm going to take it off screen. And I'll tell you what, what happens? They're going to show DM messages between me and Milagro where we were setting up that interview. And because that's supposedly evidence, I'm just not going to show you guys. All right. I don't want to drag it too much. I'm trying to see if there's any.
Starting point is 03:07:53 Oh, you want to see when I posted in the deposition? Gangster. Sort of messaging. Gangster, digger. Reporting on what. She gang stuff. Well, I said spies. Wait, hold on.
Starting point is 03:08:08 Here we go. You ready? Try and refrain from that during the course of the devil. This morning, Mr. Allen, I asked you whether or not you had any phone in front of you or any phone in front of you or any application open on your computer that would facilitate any sort of messaging. Yes. And I asked you to try and refrain from that during the course of the deposition.
Starting point is 03:08:40 Yes. Okay. Do you believe that posting on social media is a form of messaging? Not mentioning an individual. Okay. Elena, can we mark as Exhibit 120? Okay, so they show this. One of the...
Starting point is 03:09:02 Here we go. You posted on your individual. Instagram account during the course of this deposition? Yeah, definitely during the break, yes. Okay. Which break was that? One of the breaks are lunch or one of the times. Okay.
Starting point is 03:09:16 And you wrote, this deposition Meg the Stallion got me in asking me about Tori, Drake, and Nikki Minaj, more than their client Meg the Stallion. And I think that's three laughing crying emoji faces, right? Yes, yes indeed. Okay. And then you quote, as if you. you're saying something I said, right? I didn't attribute it to you, but I did put things in quotation.
Starting point is 03:09:43 Right, but you put it in quotations to suggest as if these are the questions you're being asked, right? I didn't, you're putting words in my mouth at that point. Okay, so then why don't you tell me what the purpose of you put in quotes in your Instagram account around these phrases was? Yeah, because I wanted people to understand the subject matter I was being questioned on. Is Drake paying you? Is Nikki Payne blogs? Is who is his Grand Wizard guy?
Starting point is 03:10:07 And is Tori sending you money on cash app? Actually, I meant to put a couple more things for two. I don't know what you're out thinking. So just so that I get clear, we had a whole conversation this morning about how there are aspects of this deposition that may be kept confidential. And you couldn't even wait until the deposition was over before you started posting about it on social media. Well, I mean, y'all even invite me to a deputy. It's a yes or no question. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 03:10:31 Yeah, sure. Okay. And so what you wrote here was, quote, you sure Drake ain't paying you. Wait, that's the first thing. By the way, let me pause because, you know, again, she's trying to overtalk me like she does frequently. The conversation we had at the beginning, and I could go to it, it's another video.
Starting point is 03:10:49 We had it at probably at 10.30 in the morning. This is around like probably 3.30, so five hours later. The conversation we had, she said, I'm going to show you things that are privied and are, are, oh, they're actually at, they're stipulated to a court order of order of protection. Do you know what that means? I said, you know what that means. She says, some of these things, I will let you know what they are.
Starting point is 03:11:16 These things are going to be protected. They should not and the court requires them not to be shared on social media. By the way, I could tell you now I haven't shown none of that on here. Okay. She then says, hey, I know you're at your place of residence. This is not my first deposition. I've been to others before. She says, are you alone?
Starting point is 03:11:42 I say, I'm alone. She said, do you have your phone in front of me? At the moment, I did not have my phone in front of me. I said, no. She then says, do you have any recording device or blah, blah, blah, that's in the room? I said, of course I do. Everything I do in my house is recorded. I have a surveillance camera up there.
Starting point is 03:11:59 I have two cameras there. They record everything that happens in here, really for my safety. She said, do you plan to publish anything that will be, and I could go back to that conversation. Do you plan to publish anything that is going to be in this deposition? I said, I absolutely will be speaking about this online because I am a public person and my life is of public interest. I'll be speaking about everything you guys are asking.
Starting point is 03:12:29 except the things you guys say in terms of the protected. Like I'm not going to tell you what messages or whatever it was. But it was very clear. I'm fit to go talk about y'all asses. It is what it is. It is what it is. So they're confronting me about this, but it is what it is. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:12:48 And by the way, I'm staying here in saying that I don't believe I violated any rules because after being told about what is under a protected. order and this this this um by the way the the what do you call it again this deposition is not under a protective order okay i want to be very clear this deposition is not under protective order there's certain um things that are exchanged between uh parties and discovery like text messages that's that is there will be a public viewing of the you know what the person typed there'll be a public viewing of the transcript. It's all good.
Starting point is 03:13:31 I'm just not going to let people read it. I will let people see it. And by the way, they got the video too. Here's the thing. If I look like an asshole and I look like I was a liar, you know what they would do? Anonymous to leak the video. They would leak the video like, look,
Starting point is 03:13:46 this y'all hero, right? This is academics. He talked all big and bad online. Look at him coping it. That's what they would do. How do you think all these deposition videos come out? Yeah. Yeah, because they feel, you know, well, first of all, most of them like the way and shit, everything is funny.
Starting point is 03:14:01 But if you're ever coping it, they're going to put it out or leak it if you coping it. You don't got to try to leak nothing on me. Big act, I want to go. I'll do it on live if I could. So anyway, can I use my phone on a break? You're allowed to use your phone on a break. There's nothing prohibiting it. But since you did it, I'm going to ask you about it.
Starting point is 03:14:22 Oh, you can. So you wrote, quote, you sure Drake. Okay. So they say you could. use your phone in a break, which I'm like, all right, man, so what's the fucking problem? We took a break. I said, I didn't have a phone. I'm immediately in front of me while you're being questioned.
Starting point is 03:14:34 Y'all took mad breaks because y'all got weak bladders and y'all hungry, hibhots, and y'all want to take number twos and do whatever the fuck y'all want to do to try to get big act in whatever position you want to get them into. Cool. When I, when y'all say, let's take 20 minutes, I'm on my phone, sparking it. Ain't pay you, right? That was a hilarious question or even line. of questioning. Right. And then you sure Nikki ain't paying blogs, right?
Starting point is 03:15:02 hilarious line of question as well. Do you recall me asking you whether or not Nikki Minaj was paying bloggers? You ask if when I told you that Rock Nation paid for their artists, you said like other top artists and you mentioned two, Drake and Nikki. And I said, the majority of the industry have done this, but the two that you've named have not from my perspective. I've never seen it. And trust me, I'm not cool with Nikki. I would love to say
Starting point is 03:15:37 she did. To be clear, Mr. Allen, I asked about any payments you had received, right? I'm a blogger. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, not about blogs, generally speaking, right? Well, in the context of posted... I asked about you, right, Mr. Allen? Yes, and we have a blog. Okay.
Starting point is 03:15:56 And then the next question was, who is Grand Wizard, right? And you told me under oath that you didn't know who ran that account, correct? Yeah, I didn't. Okay. And then the last one is, did Tori send you bread on cash up? And that's the last question you listed as something I said, right? I didn't listen to something you said, and I was a little bit tongue-in-cheek, but the idea that Mr. Peterson would show up in my bank records if you subpoenaed it.
Starting point is 03:16:21 Have a good try that one. Do you recall me ever using the words cash app today? No. However. Just wanted to clear that up. All right, we can move on. Sassy. I love it.
Starting point is 03:16:41 I love it. Oh, man. Hold on. Let me see. Did Ms. Peter ever tell you that she had spoken to Tori about what happened on the night of July 12th, 2020? No. Do you know who King Muar is?
Starting point is 03:16:59 Who? King Noir? Who the fuck of these people? Doesn't bring it about. You spell that council? It's all right. Noir king. No. I.R.
Starting point is 03:17:11 K-I-N-G. Doesn't ring a bell. Okay. What about Amiel Holland Briggs? Doesn't ring a bell. Are these names, like, stage name? It's an individual's name. Okay.
Starting point is 03:17:24 Amiel Hollen Briggs is an individual's name. You don't recognize it? No. Okay, I'll represent to you that Mr. Holland Briggs was a content moderator for Ms. Cooper. Were you aware that she had a content moderator? Oh, okay. I'm going to skip past this because they revealed something that the dude said. She never told me if it's under a protective order.
Starting point is 03:17:49 But I don't care to put that out. Let's see. It was public, right? Yeah, she just keep arguing with me, bro. I think she wanted to go out with me. the date. She just got to, like, we got to get her to a hair stylist and them eyebrows, we got to do something with it. You feel what I'm saying? And then like, like, we got to get some more light in the room she's at. And we got to do, we got to do her up a little bit better.
Starting point is 03:18:12 You feel me? And it might be a touch of an ozempic, you feel me. But it's all good. You know what I mean? We both can't be big in this relationship. That's all we say. But I don't know what she got going on, bro. But like, I like, I like the fact that she loved to argue with me. You feel me? Took to social media to talk about the DNA report. Do you recall that? Oh, so then they asked me who gave me the, who gave me, what was this? I don't know what she did on that day. I did go to social media at a point.
Starting point is 03:18:40 I don't know what particularly day. Okay. And I'll save you from that. So she gets upset when she says, who gave you the info about the DNA that you tweeted about Torrey Lane's DNA not being found? By the way, the real information was that it was inconclusive. who gave you that information. Honestly, in chat, you know, I love y'all.
Starting point is 03:19:03 Like, I told them I was standing on business, so I said I would not tell them. I'll tell y'all. I really didn't remember. She claimed I remembered, and I was like, how you know I remembered? And she was like, I'm going to talk to the judge. I'm going to have the judge force you to reveal.
Starting point is 03:19:22 That's because at first I said, well, listen, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm like, you know, I run a media company. and under the vague of journalism, I'm not, I'm going to protect my sources. And they're like, well, we're going to try to force you to tell it. And then I was like, well, I'll tell you anyway now. I don't remember who it was.
Starting point is 03:19:38 It was like, you know, it was like some random anonymous person. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. But she was really on it. So she took a 30-minute break to go talk to the judge. I was like, okay.
Starting point is 03:19:53 And yeah, you know, a couple more things. but we can wrap it here, chat. I'm going to edit all this down, take out all the things that was not meant to be shown. There are phone numbers and other things that I'm glad that even though me skipping around, we've avoided. But yeah, there was a bunch of stuff that, you know, I could understand, you know, people's privacy and court orders. And, you know, even on this thing, they confer my number and other things about me. So it's okay. So, you know, we want to respect the court's process.
Starting point is 03:20:25 but I do want to say Megastalian, you're fucking embarrassing. You're fucking embarrassing. If this is what you're doing, you're fucking embarrassing. And Jay-Z Rock Nation and even Desiree Perez, this is what y'all want to hang y'all hat on. You know, I've been one of the critics of everybody who I've named, but I feel like I've also been someone who have invited y'all to have conversations, and I felt like y'all have operated in a cowardice way and gone the way that doesn't seem even familiar.
Starting point is 03:20:55 familiar with the the scope of how slight disagreements are dealt with in hip hop and file the lawsuit and I know some people might be like well act what about what do you think about Drake's lawsuit I don't like that neither I don't like no lawsuit I don't like none of you all the law suits so when I'm watching this I'm watching I'm watching oligarch rappers and you know um my dog my landscaper people I got something like they're attacking it feels like oligarch um veteran rappers who are really successful using their fame and their money to bully other people and i'm just not a fan of it i'm not a fan for other people my favorite rapper i'm not even a fan of him doing it okay so it is what it is and i'll leave it there and um
Starting point is 03:21:42 actually we'll actually get into me talking about my favorite rapper right now that's a fact so Okay. So, chat is finally time. It's finally time, man. Now, chat, I'm going to be honest with you. I know most y'all wanted to hear to make the style and shit. But after this, I'm going to be honest with you. All y'all drink fans, it's been good.
Starting point is 03:22:12 And if y'all hate me after this, it's cool. But chat, finally, finally, the time is here. We got to reveal Drake's secret kid. I know. I know. Kung Fu Kinney was wrong with 99 things. He was right with one. Wait, why is this not showing up?
Starting point is 03:22:34 So, chat, it appears, wait, what the fuck, yeah. It appears that when Drake had canceled his tour, you know, he was on like a world tour back in March. He canceled it. And, you know, he, supposedly went back to Toronto. And he went to Toronto and he showed up in family court. It was for an important reason. Now, this would have skated under the radar.
Starting point is 03:23:05 I've gotten some tips on this, pause. I've known this info for a while. I was actually waiting to Loki leverage this for an interview. But I ain't going to lie. I'm a little pissed off because I've seen Drake with Bobby Althaw. So I'm tight. I'm tight. I'm tight.
Starting point is 03:23:20 I'm a little tight. I'm a little tight. So fuck it. We got to get to it. But if you guys don't know, Drake was spotted in family court. Spotting family court in March 2025 by an artist Davis-Lewis wall. The courtroom was locked down. It was actually a very interesting scene. No one was allowed in family court.
Starting point is 03:23:41 And this was a video he made. So obviously, that's Drake. This is the bodyguard in front of it. Okay. So what ended up happening was this guy, I guess he's one of those people like Matthew Russell that we follow. They go to the court hearings and they get all the info and this and third. He routinely goes to the court, except one of the courtrooms were closed down and not available to the public. When asked who were the members of the parties that were going to show up, he found out that supposedly was Aubrey Graham.
Starting point is 03:24:20 He made a video about it and ironically at the same time, guess who walks by? Hello everybody. In that court today, March 27th, 2025. Drake, famous singer, is in family court today. With his ex-wife, I guess, don't really know her name. In courtroom 103, Family Court. They've banned the public from the courtroom. No public can watch this.
Starting point is 03:24:56 Divorce? I guess. I'm not sure. Now I want to pause with y'all. And I've been on his headtop all this morning. I've been on his headtop. Drake made me a bet that if what Kendrick said was true, that he had a daughter, he would come work for me for free. And I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 03:25:18 we have to live up to that that arrangement. I don't care if it's 30 days. I need 30 days of good servitude and good community service or work out of Aubrey Graham. That's what he said to me. I told you guys this. Because I'm not allowed in the courtroom. This is not a good day. And I believe it's unconstitutional to not allow the public in the courtroom just because they're famous.
Starting point is 03:25:49 Oh hello Oh my god Drake How are you Oh Oh wow It's hilarious He just walked by
Starting point is 03:26:01 Holy shit Holy shit Holy shit Let's see if we get the videos on here to check I think Maybe he doesn't have to Oh I think this is
Starting point is 03:26:27 is, nah, that's not it. He supposedly had like courtroom drawings of what he thought was happening. It's part two. Here we go. Oh my God, Drake. Family court again. Here we go. Second. 2025.
Starting point is 03:26:46 David Lewis Wall here. Today I did the Drake trial again. He showed up. Family court again. Here's his bodyguard in the hall. Still won't let me in the room. That's one of the
Starting point is 03:27:02 reporters and I'm gonna show you this was his girlfriend she was oh wow he was sitting in the hall and a police officer didn't quite get him but anyways yeah they did put a sign on the door this time that said close to the public. That was sad. Wow. The rabbit hole gets deeper. Holy. Holy.
Starting point is 03:28:02 Holy. Holy. Now, Chad, we'll keep it to be with y'all. I had to do my due diligence. And I'm being honest with y'all. Until Drake fans going to hit me after that. Yo, this was the moment. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 03:28:36 honest with you and I rock with Drake for a long time. This was the moment I realized Drake's a fraud. I have to be honest. This was the moment I realized Drake's a fraud. I'm gonna keep to be. Oh my God. I'm gonna tell you why. March. I'm gonna tell you. No, pop. I'm not sure. To not allow. Um, just, oh my God, Drake.
Starting point is 03:28:58 How are you? Oh, that's hilarious. He just, oh, my God, Drake. And where? Well, don't we? Oh, chat. I realize Drake's a fraud because his nigga online
Starting point is 03:29:17 is capping like he got a full head of hair, man. He got this Steve Harvey. What the hell? Drake got acting like he got braids and two months ago. He got a high top? Oh, hell no. Drake's a fraud.
Starting point is 03:29:32 That's some fraud shit. That's fraud. That's fraud. What? This whole time. I'm thinking I'm growing my hair out he growing his hair we've been growing it since like almost like since surf I love a boy look at the growth good winked bamboozled let us stray all to find out that Aubrey got a buscott oh no no oh no it hurts it hurts it hurts Why did you tell me that he was rocking a wig the whole time on some Steve Harvey shit?
Starting point is 03:30:21 Chad! No! Jack, no! It's no way you grow all this in two months. It's no way. What? You're telling me this is a wig! You're telling me this is a wig! You're doing the Fetty Whop to Steve Harvey. Oh no. Chat, I cry when I've seen this. Oh, yeah, I was thinking about a kid.
Starting point is 03:30:54 Ain't got no fucking kid. Kendrick's a liar. He ain't got no damn kid. Shut up the family court for some regular family stuff. It's fine. Stay out of his motherfucking business. Kendrick won't even tell you if he slapped his chick. He won't give you his police report.
Starting point is 03:31:08 Stay out of Drake's business. Okay, stay out of his business. He doesn't got no extra kid. He's good with everybody. Chill out. Relax. There's no kid. Oh, I know y'all.
Starting point is 03:31:19 Oh, yeah, I thought. Oh, yeah, I thought. Oh, y'all. Oh, yeah, I thought, yeah. No, no, no. I just looked at this and said, wait. My favorite rapper is painting his nails and wearing a wig. Oh, no.
Starting point is 03:31:31 That would really set me on. That set me up. He ain't got a fucking kid. What are you talking about? Wait, wait, wait, which I thought it wasn't. I thought it was a daughter? Kendrick's a liar. He lies for a living.
Starting point is 03:31:44 I think Kendrick actually did try to back to her Drake because it's like he knew Drake was going to say, I think them kids belong to Dave. And I think he said, well, I, well, you got a kid. You ain't claiming it. I think that's what it was. But yeah, I just thought the decept- You ever seen the scene in white girls?
Starting point is 03:32:08 The deception. That's what I thought. I just wanted to tell you, I appreciate what you did. I was real brave of you. I had no choice. I couldn't let them take my one true love away. Hey dude. I ain't what you think I am.
Starting point is 03:32:38 We all got secrets. That's okay. That's Drake. That's me. Are you telling me? You're telling me? Let me not say fuck the kid. Because there is no kid.
Starting point is 03:32:58 Are you telling me? Drake don't got brains? That's a wig. You are not... Yeah, I'm not... You have a bus cut? Not a woman. White?
Starting point is 03:33:11 Oh, the deception. The deception. The betrayal, man. You deceived me. You deceived me, Aubrey. You deceived me, Aubrey. Okay, chat. Okay, let's calm me down.
Starting point is 03:33:24 Drake don't got a kid, my nigga. Like, you know, his family court, you know, again, I know you all feel entitled. And I get it because, you know, I feel like Drake, unlike every other artist, gives the most of his entire life to the public. Y'all feel entitled to know exactly what happening in there. Listen, y'all don't. don't want to, y'all don't feel entitled to know if Kendrick really did have a police report with the situation allegedly with his woman, but y'all feel entitled to know if Drake is going
Starting point is 03:33:53 for a paternity test, child support, a second child, a daughter, y'all feel entitled to know that. Again, I've done my due diligence on this chat. Basically, this whole situation is no extra kid. and from what I also see it's a peaceful situation that many men go through. It is okay. You know, it's a family court thing. It's okay.
Starting point is 03:34:17 There's no beef. There's no nothing. But that doesn't really sell tabloids. It doesn't get clicks. So, of course, I had to hype it up a little bit. Yeah, I had to hype it a little bit. But I might go with fraud for like a couple weeks. Because, wait, Drake really wearing a braid wig?
Starting point is 03:34:35 You, Drake is wearing a braid wig? Wait, chat, is it a possible that you could have here like this in March and then here like this in August? Now, Drake, at one point, me and you go ahead and add this conversation. You got niggins trying to say, you got an ab machine to do your abs. You paint your nails like, you know, some powder puff girls, pink and now you have on a braid wig and come on now brother come on brother come on dog come on come on
Starting point is 03:35:21 man come on mine oh no we got to you know somebody send me the boozy joint we need the boozy come on mine that we need this hey bro come on now dog come on now dog come on now dog come on man yeah we need that chat we need that what Now, Kendrick's a lie. We all know that. That's already proven. What I'm trying to say is, so you're telling me Drake, I wonder if Drake ever grew is here at all.
Starting point is 03:35:53 Hey, bro. Come on now, dog. Come on, man. Come on, mind. Anyway, let's see what Drake and, um, this is Drake and Bobby Althoff. They're cooking something up. Let's watch this.
Starting point is 03:36:07 Wait. So Bobby Althoff just announced that her last podcast is being canceled on. if you've seen that video i'll play it real quick uh bobby althoff bobby althoff podcast ending she had made an announcement she's like yo it's over uh let's see if okay just in honor of the last episode my sister and i are going to sing a song so lexy come on up here but don't go on my bad you gotta go on that side of me here it's just like this is my Okay. Do you know the song? Okay, yeah, she knows the song. Okay. Austin, how does it start? I heard. Is that as a house?
Starting point is 03:36:53 Or she says it looks like her. David played in it please. Oh, okay. Anyway. At the end of the day, she was good and I'm going to miss her and I'm going to miss. I will miss doing this podcast and I will miss the money this podcast brought me. As you guys know, this podcast started off. just with a girl with a dream to make more money. And I knew when I started that it was going to go places.
Starting point is 03:37:25 I didn't know I would fall off as quickly as I did. To be honest, I did think this was going to last a bit longer. But nevertheless, it lasted a minute. And I'm proud of the accomplishments I have. And I'm pretty sad that it has to end like this, but it's okay. Things in life happened. Everything in life happens for, reason. Okay, so she ends the podcast and then magically she pops up, which by the way, I think
Starting point is 03:37:51 was her first podcast episode, I think. She had popped up with Drake on the last one. She pops up with Drake again. And she says, not this again. And by the way, it's a joint post. So Drake and her posted it. Let's watch. Is audio? Welcome to a much more refined, poised, and pleasant podcast. Pleasant. I don't know about that. I know. I don't know. I think. was just a word you. I'm trying to get you brand deals. Oh, so you want me to be more pleasant?
Starting point is 03:38:24 No, I'm just saying. That's not what I need to do. I was trying to pitch. Is what I need to get more brain deals? Be more pleasant. Hey, hey now. Welcome to a much more scenic, serene, and solidarity. What are you getting at?
Starting point is 03:38:43 Welcome to a much more scenic and serene and serious. It's not going to be. though. Is it not? I think it is. Welcome to a much more scenic, serene, sexy. No, try it again. Run it back. I liked it. I don't like that one. Welcome to a much more scenic, serene, polysic, equally sickening. Okay, you know, maybe I should just do it. Okay. Welcome to the first episode of my new podcast that no one asked for. Not this again. Okay. All right. So, a bunch of thoughts here. I think it's clear to say. And I'm, you know, I'm going to sit here and speak to you all very openly honestly. Because I do hear a lot of not even rumblings, but there's a loud echo and a loud noise saying, yo, Drake, my brother, I think you're not reading the room here. You just went through one of the most horrifying rap battles of life. And the entire premise. was trying to show or trying to say you're not someone of the culture and you keep doing
Starting point is 03:39:57 content with people who seemingly are not within hip-hop okay and i completely understand that and by the way i do kind of look at jake like bad timing again now honestly i think this is a great business move i just think it's bad timing i think drake like again i could be wrong i haven't asked him about it. It's no way he doesn't own a part of this podcast or the company that owns this podcast or is giving this woman an opportunity. With all due respect, Bobby Althoff is not a talented person. With all due respect, there is a lane for her to flourish, but especially within the lane that she is trying to cannibalize off of without Drake walking her through the door. now not once but twice she is not as affected no one who really wants to sit with her she comes
Starting point is 03:40:53 across is either condescending or absent-minded she doesn't do great interviews but you are doing what we've accused jay of doing giving someone a cultural key that maybe we don't think should even be a cultural visitor so now you've told me they can live here drake has to like and i've spoken to many people about it they're like you're like you're like Oh, no, Drake must be trying to fuck her. If Drake is, if Drake is doing this to try to fuck this chick, he's too horny. No, it's too, it's too great. No, he's too horny.
Starting point is 03:41:24 He has to own part of her podcast or the network that's published in her podcast. Otherwise, nothing makes sense. I will stick on that. Again, I would rather, and I hear the rumblings of people say, no, no, Drake is just avoiding hip-hop press. Like, people are like, well, yeah, he ain't going to do nothing with you, mall, or nobody else. He's just avoiding y'all because you don't want. want to answer the questions.
Starting point is 03:41:48 I don't think that that's the case. I don't think that's the case. I think he is going to do that in due time. And I want to believe that he has business with this woman. I will say the timing is still horrible. And reading the room is still
Starting point is 03:42:06 not the thing that I've said about Drake, especially post beef. He's done accurately. But I don't know if he thinks he needs to or cares to read the room. But once I seen this, I was just like, even if you sign her podcast, brother, you need to fully complete the arc of you dropping your solo album,
Starting point is 03:42:28 then doing it. Now, as far as Drake answering questions about some real shit, battle, he got to at some point. Got to. Like, you know, you've been very hip-hop your entire career. That's why you've battled.
Starting point is 03:42:46 you're going to have to speak about these things, not just only on a record when convenient. And yes, and I do understand that Drake has, we have unrealistic expectations for Drake compared to other artists, just because, for example, you know, you know, Kendrick went on a whole hate-a-thon and nobody says, yo, he has to have a legit conversation about this stuff because he just never does conversations.
Starting point is 03:43:09 The thing with Drake, he's much more forward-facing. We see him doing much more content. we see his voice and his opinion being dispersed much more than say it Kendrick so we expect more from him but I'm going to be honest with you you know it's an overall gripe of the majority of artists I'm hoping and this is just my hope right so I'm going twofold I believe this is a business move for Drake still ill-timed but it's a business move he has to own part for podcast. It's no way. If Drake don't own part of her podcast, I think he's a idiot. It's just no way that a woman that has been dejected from black culture and from urban culture and basically
Starting point is 03:43:59 was starting to experience the effects of falling off. And maybe like they wanted to do a rebrand or whatever or give her like a new, a new like steroid shot. You're doing it twice for her when essentially if she was as talented or she was as demanded or wanted or cared for by the community or by the hip-hop sphere, she would be supported. For him to do it twice, he has to own part of her podcast, her entertainment career, I believe. Okay. Second of all, I don't, you know, I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon of people saying that Drake won't answer questions about real shit.
Starting point is 03:44:51 There is going to become a time, and I believe that time, again, he could think differently, but I think that time is going to be after the album's out. When that album's out, he got to talk. Not exactly immediately, but it is time for you to do what you normally do. All these conversations were used to you. I mean, it's been a while, I guess. We, I believe, after the album, you let the music do the time. You let the music do the talking, and then you come back around and you fill in the gaps.
Starting point is 03:45:21 That's how I believe. Okay. So for the people who do have questions like, act, how do you feel about this? I feel Drake isn't reading the room properly, but I think Drake is doing business. Again, just like when people ask me about the kick situation or why doesn't he stream with you. I don't think Drake wants to stream. I think Drake sees a lucrative dollar sign and he follows the dollar sign to do streaming. and I don't think Drake wants to podcast.
Starting point is 03:45:47 I think Drake is podcasting for a business opportunity. I could be wrong and I'm okay and open to stand possibly at the precipice of, hey, no, you're wrong. This nigg is just out of touch. But I don't believe that's what that is. Again, specifically because this Bobby Althoff is puzzling to me because it's, it's making me say it's not even about
Starting point is 03:46:20 are you going to do content with say a me or a mele mall or something it becomes bro you got to realize that hip hop in urban culture has dejected this woman they don't like her they think she's condescending
Starting point is 03:46:37 earheaded they feel she's getting opportunity she doesn't deserve they feel even whatever resolved they have with the Yadi situation. They feel like she's talking down to black artists who maybe she's looking at as, oh, y'all are stupid or y'all do silly shit. And it's one of those condescending type of things. I think Drake is shrewd enough to understand that. And if he continues to do stuff with her or
Starting point is 03:47:08 he's relaunching stuff with her, it got to be a money play, right? Because obviously, and I'll be honest, like, nigger, if I could sign Bobby Althoff, I would definitely do it. And I'll be on a podcast that's with her spinning and grinning too. Because if whatever she's going to bring in, I'm going to get my 30 or 40 or I don't know, maybe 50% for Drake, I could see it. But if he thinks this is the move, he's out of touch, but I don't think that's it.
Starting point is 03:47:33 I think it's business. And I'm pretty sure we'll figure in due time as soon as the podcast has dropped. We'll figure out what company owns it, who's distributing it. And we'll see if Drake has anything to do with it. And if he doesn't mark me a record. I think he's doing it.
Starting point is 03:47:46 Okay. So that'll be my opinion on that Yeah, I'll be confused about this one Anyway Okay, um, yo chat, yeah, I gotta see this Oh my God Yo chat, the guy Hernandez Govon Hernandez Govon
Starting point is 03:48:07 Yo, this dude Just beat his, you know, it's basically a murder for hired case And the first thing he did was hop on an Instagram live with a YouTuber and a YouTuber named is Setti Nash. Now SETI Nash has been covering a lot of
Starting point is 03:48:27 stuff happening in Memphis during this case. Like we covered the main trial, not even that much, but we covered a good amount with Justin Johnson. We knew the other shooter, it was two shooters. Justin Johnson, Cornelia Smith. We covered both of those. Well, Cornelius Smith didn't really go to trial.
Starting point is 03:48:42 He's just kind of like, he's supposedly taking a plea, but he's been cooperating because he testified against a first shooter. But we heard the conspiracy theory behind us. I think we all believed. Two shooters that they didn't really want Dolf dead and they didn't know each other that well, so why would
Starting point is 03:48:59 they link up to go kill Dolf? Somebody must have paid them. They were allegedly trying to get money for compensation. Who paid them? Who'd want Dolf dead? When we think about it, people would throw in names like Yogadi, but a direct connect to Yogadi was going
Starting point is 03:49:14 to be a guy named Big Juk, who was his brother. Big Juk was murdered, I believe earlier or late last year, if I have my time and right, at a funeral and beyond Big Juk,
Starting point is 03:49:30 they felt that Big Juk had ordered a guy named Hernandez Gauvon to find killers to execute hits on any PRE members. The biggest of the fish would be Young Doff, who supposedly there was
Starting point is 03:49:46 100,000 on his head. now some way somehow the shooter justin johnson obviously because he was pictured in surveillance video this and third he got found guilty now the person who paid or was the middleman in between big juk and the shooter was a guy named her name her name is gavanas if i've said he went through a trial and he got found innocent and you know i'm going to do some more digging into it and kind of start reviewing some of the the documents that we definitely didn't cover because we only covered a limited amount of time i'm going to really review the transcripts and go back to see the witnesses that were test to testifying.
Starting point is 03:50:23 But from what I could tell, the reason why the guy beat the case is because he beat the case because the only witness or proof that linked him to the crime was a man that already was convicted or basically alleged to be the shooter and the killer. okay so it's like are you going to send another man to jail for the rest of his life when the only proof you have is this murderer there wasn't much proof that put this guy and by the way this is why people do murder for hires and this is you know this is going to come down to even the dirt situation as we think about that well will the feds fumble it like this you know not that one dirt go to jail like dirk but if you a lot of guys think if you create
Starting point is 03:51:14 enough space between yourself and now we also get the answer to of why big juke never got arrested if they couldn't like the shooters dealt with this guy if they couldn't get him on a conviction how were they going to get a conviction on the guy that the only tie supposedly to him was this guy that they can't convict so people usually put these levels and steps and that's where riko comes in at some point of distance in between them and them ordering a murder or them trying to get somebody killed. So this guy was the guy right above the shooters, and right above him was Big Jugg, and then people speculate that right above him was Yogadi.
Starting point is 03:51:56 Now, clearly, if they can't get the guys right above the shooter, which is Hernandez-Govon, and the other guy right above him, who's dead, is Big Juk. Yogadi is probably on his hands and knees and kissing the floor, not saying he had nothing to do with it, but it looks like the police will probably stop. their inquiry unless new information come out at least into that murder it's going to be impossible for them to put this on yogadi right they couldn't even get the guy that was talking to yoghati's brother anyway since his acquittal his first public appearance other than being on the news where he he spoke a little bit and let me see if i could show you some jury from the defendant
Starting point is 03:52:38 hernandez go ban not guilty in count two of being like you This left some picking apart the prosecution. There were two associate district attorneys as part of the trial team. Assistant D.A. Iris Williams gave the opening statement. Look at all the photos and exhibits, you will see the consequences of Govan's actions. She also gave the closing argument, followed by Assistant DA Carla Taylor, who gave the rebuttal. After Govan was cleared of the charges, the top, prosecutor responded.
Starting point is 03:53:16 I want to point out that the family obviously was very distraught, did not want to speak to the media, but they did say that they didn't blame the trial team for this result, although they're disappointed in it. They thought the trial team did everything they could. And I want to say that the trial team did everything they could. They were extremely well. Sounds like if they're not blaming the trial team for a lack of conviction, they're blaming the investigators, right?
Starting point is 03:53:40 That's how it works. Investigators hands it over. Well, well, three. people. Investigators, so police and detectives hand over the case to a DA and the DA makes a decision. Then the assistant DAs take it to trial. So if you know, the assistant DA is the DA's aim the problem. It's the DA who either took the case or is the investigators who botched up all the evidence they should have got when they presented the case. Govan's pro bono defense attorney disagrees.
Starting point is 03:54:15 The whole thing was a joke. The government just can't ever admit that maybe there isn't anything here. They're just prosecute, prosecute, prosecute, and then blame the jury if it doesn't go your way. Reporting for your newsleader. You are free to death. Back to someone, too. Jurita Patterson, W.R.E.G. News Channel 3. Now, District Attorney Mulroy says his office is now focused on making sure Cornelia Smith,
Starting point is 03:54:37 an admitted gunman in that shooting death, is held accountable. bro. So now, Hernandez-Govon did speak at a point, and when he spoke at a point, he did admit that he was going to leave Memphis. Okay? Anyway, Setti Nash, he's been really,
Starting point is 03:54:56 is a blogger. He's been really keen on reporting a lot of the details, even more than everybody else. And when Hernandez-Govon got out, his first public appearance other than the news, was to jump on his Instagram line. And check out what happened. the way that um hernandez goviz lawyer did that closed his statement which y'all didn't know right
Starting point is 03:55:23 y'all didn't know that that lawyer really pissed them off like we're talking about the people in the jury box so if y'all looked at the short little lawyer that was there bro like if y'all looked at the short little lawyer that was there I ain't gonna hold you bruh it was crazy he said everybody in Memphis should be offended to the point where what they was saying
Starting point is 03:55:50 on the news today they was like hey this we all voted in this trash this all trash right here and I'm like yo wait a minute wait a damn minute so Cornelius Smith
Starting point is 03:56:06 about to get life bro dude about to get life I think we got a fake Hernandez-Govern profile in here. All right, y'all, niggins, he's crazy, man. They was like, hey, bro, Mace his mind. What's something, Laleigh? So he thinks it's a fake profile.
Starting point is 03:56:26 He adds the profile, but it's the real guy. Yeah, I'm crazy. Y'all buddy is him. I've been getting hell of trolls as of late. What troll for to get rusted today? What's the word? Wait a minute. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 03:56:56 What's the word? Shit, you tell me. Whoa. Uh, congratulations, fool? I mean. I'm going to be honest with you. When I look at this nigger face, I wouldn't play with him.
Starting point is 03:57:12 This guy right here, he just beat this case, and I could tell he's still on timing. He's still on timing. Uh, yeah. Congratulations, fool. I mean. shoot what's what's going on me you you strike you'll be this this friday night you know what's
Starting point is 03:57:32 saying we would have thought you to would have been on the town or something like that bro like you good yeah i'm all right okay it was you kind of i don't know man you kind of yo look at his nigga look at he he looking he looking he looking more mad than he was in court you straight you kind of looking at me like kind of funny bro like that
Starting point is 03:57:59 man you know I just I just don't respect you know what I'm saying man you know how you know you was putting the narrative
Starting point is 03:58:07 like I had something like I was really in on this shit you know what I'm saying like and then you tried to flip it when you got
Starting point is 03:58:16 when you get to the motions and shit you know what I'm saying I just I don't respect that shit man you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 03:58:22 like they like bar you from memphis from doing some goofy and shit like that like first off first of um why are you talking to nigga uh any nigga ban me from memphis i do my step like you can do that old man stelf-faced shit you got going on nigga but um this said he nash bro like i don't i don't know what got going on bro but um i'm i'm one the niggas you don't you'll come on internet talking me like that niggins for sure I'm not that nigga. One thing we ain't fin to do
Starting point is 03:58:57 is argue on Instagram. You know, I look at you as like little kids at high school that used to get beat up and shit and now you got a voice since the internet has been invented. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:59:09 Like, nigger, we ain't got to do this. Like, we can I be in L.A. soon. I'll be in Atlanta soon. Nigel, we can meet up and I kick the pies out of your. Nigel, we ain't got to do this shit. Oh, shit. First of,
Starting point is 03:59:23 That nigga, beat me up, nigga. Definitely, that ain't never happened. So you definitely won't come to LA. For sure, you won't be coming to a goddamn L.A. That's one thing you won't do. My city? You talking like that, brother? Just getting ran out of your city for bringing Little Woody to the 60s.
Starting point is 03:59:43 I got ran out of my city? Then you have to pay some niggas after 60s. Trust. If I pay, if I pay anybody, I'm paying ops. That's who I pay me a kid. I pay niggas to get niggas out the way. Wait, is this Settie Nash dude?
Starting point is 04:00:00 Is he like gangsy like that? Oh shit. He said, I'm painting by him paying. Now, he's talking, is crazy how he's talking to this guy? I personally believe this dude promised to pay dudes to kill Dauph and Dauph is dead. I wouldn't be talking crazy to this guy. Especially he might be having that tip on a shoulder like,
Starting point is 04:00:21 yeah, nigga, I kill one of y'am. a nigga who's beloved and he's gone and nigga I want to trial and not beat it, nigga like he might be feeling untouchable. He might put, he might be thinking I could put belt to ass on anybody.
Starting point is 04:00:38 Come out of a nigga for I slap the fuck. That's one thing. First off, nigga, and you come to Atlanta. Bro, let me tell you something. You slick ass, little beanhead ass, niggas, bruck. Niggas like you, bro. I slap the shit out of it.
Starting point is 04:00:52 I'll get your old ass a wedge. You're probably wearing the pens out this motherfucker and you're like, he's like 70 year old talking shit Nick what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 04:00:59 Man, I can tell you the way you're talking you need to be in and then a fight probably you just the only fights you've been in is in your muddreams
Starting point is 04:01:05 nigga, you're just talking we ain't got to do all this goofing shit, nigga let's just line it up nigga I'll be in L.A.
Starting point is 04:01:11 and like all day where you at I'll be in L.A. nigger three days and wait for you for five days nigga all right
Starting point is 04:01:20 so I tell you what when I down nigger in four days nigger i'm gonna drop my load and let you know where i'm in i'm gonna see if your podcast and ass gonna pull up and stand on all this gangster shit that you talk and i want to know i'm not a gangster i'm rolling niggins that's number one put you on first of i think you around here claiming the 60s on some goofy shit first um nigga come find out come in a set come find out come in a sit and find out yeah come to sit and find out I'm free of all charges now.
Starting point is 04:01:50 I'm slapping. You bring your ass. You bring your ass to L.A.? You. Dane's I'm free of all charges. I'm slapping, niggas. Nah, this is crazy. Niggas like you,
Starting point is 04:02:00 brer, I slap the shit out of a nigga. I'll get your old ass a wedger. You probably wearing the pens out this motherfucker. And you're like, he's like 70-year-old talking shit. Nick, what I can tell you. The way you're talking.
Starting point is 04:02:10 You don't fight probably. You just, the only fights you've been in is in your mother's dreams. Niggin. You're just talking. We ain't got to do all this goofy and shit. nigger let's just line it up nigger i be in la in like four days where you at i be in l a nigger three days and wait for you for five days nigger all right so i tell you what
Starting point is 04:02:31 when i touch down nigger in four days nigger i'm gonna drop my load and let you know where i'm in and i'm gonna see if your podcast and ass gonna pull up and stand on all this gangster shit that you're talking and i want to know i'm not a gangster i'm rolling niggins that's number one Put you on, first of all. I think you around here claiming the 60s on some goofy shit. First of, nigga, come find out. Come to the set. Come to find out.
Starting point is 04:02:55 Come to sit in a, Nick. Yeah, come to sit and find out, nigga. Hey, I'm free of all charges now. I'm slapping. You bring your ass. You bring your ass to L.A.? You bring your ass to L.A., I'm going to find out.
Starting point is 04:03:07 And if I'm paying niggas, I'm a pay niggas. Wait, is this guy like that, or is he trolling? Because I know this guy like that. you ain't gonna make it nigga okay okay so you're talking like you're paying niggas
Starting point is 04:03:22 on Instagram you're saying all that goofy that's how I know you're a goofy you're saying shit like that on IG you what you're gonna do you know you said
Starting point is 04:03:29 I'm paying niggas I said if I was to pay niggas it'd be the paint niggas ain't none of that shit on my rap I'm a nigga
Starting point is 04:03:35 that get my hands dirty I ain't got to pay nobody I tell my niggas I need you don't breathe let that nigga go I'll pay L.A to stay off your
Starting point is 04:03:43 just so I can catch you fuck as you fucking you talking about And, nigger, I plan to be at No Jumper soon. Ain't there one of your second halls, niggled? You can meet me there, nigger. Wait, he's going to do a no jumper interview? It's like a rollout plan.
Starting point is 04:03:56 Yo, you beat a murder. Yo, go do a No Jumper and Vlad TV interview. Holy. Man, if I catch you at No Jumper, you're going to catch the black part of my hand, nigger. You type of a nigga, I smack with the back of my head. As that's your ass in front of Adam, Remo, what's the name, made the goofy-ass shit by my daughter?
Starting point is 04:04:15 The fact that he go Flaco? Man. Yeah, him. I kick your answer. Wait, wait, did he answer me just now? Because I don't even think he said flaco. He just said him.
Starting point is 04:04:28 Man. Yeah, him. No, he answered me? Oh, the factor to go. He said flaco. Man. Yeah, him. Now, I got to call flaco.
Starting point is 04:04:42 Oh, nah. Nah. Nah, nah. Nah. I'm gonna call Flack too. This is crazy. Oh, big guy. Yo, Flaco.
Starting point is 04:05:07 Hey, man. Yo, I was up what I was up with you, man? Yo, that nigga, her name is Govon, say he's gonna slap you. Yo, we're on stream, by the way. You're on stream. I'm watching this shit, like, yo, I ain't gonna lie to you. A lot of times I see niggas talking shit, they be looking like they cap it. This one of niggas, I would probably de-escalate with.
Starting point is 04:05:28 He looked like he's a killer, bro. Or he looked like he paid a nigga. I'm going to be real, I'll be real to act. Can no nigger do all that talent in that courtroom and then act off afterwards, man? Listen. Wait, he told. That nigger lawyer, man, man, listen, bro, that nigger lawyer in his opening statement, his closing statement, and through that trial, said, man, bro, why my client here, man? Why y'all got him not up here?
Starting point is 04:05:54 Right? So, like, again, your lawyer speaks for you, homie. So like, if your lawyer did all that telling, then I'll say you did all that tell it. And if you did all that teller in a courtroom, my nigga, you can't talk tough to me, my nigga. I'm not buying that nigga. Hey, Finn, listen, bro, after that nigga beat that case, homie, that nigga was there crying, talking about he's leaving Memphis changing his life out. Listen, man, these niggers are scared of jail, homie.
Starting point is 04:06:20 Can no nigger who proof to me, he's terrified to go into jail. Damn there, shutting a tear after the not guilty. tough to me, nigga. I already know you scared of jail, nigga. I know your cards, homie. You feel me? And listen, one thing for sure, one thing for certain, homie. We know he guilty. We know he did it. We know them
Starting point is 04:06:39 niggas gonna kill him. Right? We know, listen, bro. He might catch you before you die. He might catch you before he die. Catch me where? He said, coming to no jump or he doing an interview. He said, want you whack and Sadie Nash there.
Starting point is 04:06:56 And Remo. No. Nigger, I'm... Naga, act. I run a LA, act, listen, I'm the king of LA Act. There we go.
Starting point is 04:07:04 That's big flacco right here. Yeah. I mean, listen, bro. Did homies, color, whatever you want to put it on, act, listen,
Starting point is 04:07:14 but I done, death violated. Every tough nigga, y'all think was tough on the end of that, that nigga. Not a nigga touched me yet, act.
Starting point is 04:07:21 So, hence kid, no, bitch-ass nigga from Memphis, who was crying because he didn't go to jail, did all that telling in that courtroom, talk tough to flacco,
Starting point is 04:07:30 niggas. Now, act, listen, bro. Wait, he was crying? He wasn't crying, though. He wasn't crying. Man, listen. Man, listen, bro, that nigga was shut in a tear, nigga. And also, listen, bro, I told him bitch-house niggas, bro. Listen, y'all had a silent two years to get me, nigga. Back when I was broke, back when I was fucked up, you know what? Listen, man, I actually is fuck short, short, short, Jesus sandals.
Starting point is 04:07:53 Y'all could have got me dead, nigga. Right now, Ain't none of you bitch out niggas got a money to me, nigger. Don't none of you niggas. Talk that shit, flaco! Listen, I'm being real with niggas, don't act. Yo, Flaco, they think you out here, they think you out here getting like five bans a month. They're not really knowing, though.
Starting point is 04:08:10 They're not knowing. Man, act. Come on. Man, act. Listen, bro. I'm a sure the nix is a dash, but, listen, bro.
Starting point is 04:08:19 I'm a self-made millionaire of this YouTube shit, nigga. Listen, bro. There you go. There you go. Listen, I'm a lot. Listen, I'm a little. Listen, bro, listen, bro, the last 14 months, nigga, there has not been a month on YouTube.
Starting point is 04:08:32 I've made less than 50 bands, nigga. And that's life shit for YouTube. So I'm saying this, nigga. Can no pro-ass nigga, all right? Who's fucking in the trenches doing hits? Listen, bro, these niggas are dirty-ass niggas. This nigga was, bro, doing ahead. A higher murder of the hottest rapper in his city for a 20-K commission.
Starting point is 04:08:54 He's a broke-ass nigga He can't talk to a nigga like me, bro His big fuck he's talking to, nigga Hey, come on, bro Yeah, yo, yo, he said you talked about his daughter On a video I think his daughter got killed his own Man, fuck that bitch-ass, nigga, man
Starting point is 04:09:10 And what I said was Now, hey, listen, listen, look, hey, listen that, bro Like, Wack 100 said, nigga What I say was, I'll say twice, nigga Like, fuck that bitch, y' ass, nigga Okay, so again, what I said was, okay, His daughter got killed in Houston Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 04:09:24 And again, what it felt like, it felt like a back dough. So what I said was, hold on, man. It felt like this nigga actions got his daughter killed. Which again, to this day, nigga, we don't know what took place. You feel me by that? But, hey, I'll be real, my nigga, right? Again, is it out of the rum of possibility, bro, that a bitch-ass, nigga, who did a commission for 20K or one of the hottest rappers on the planet?
Starting point is 04:09:45 I'll be real, my nigga. If I was to take out young Dolph, nigga, I need at least 150, nigga. 20,000, you are poor-ass, nigger. That's one. is pissed by nigga, right? Again, act. That bitch ass nigga by to come to no jumper, right? And tell all his business for $2,500.
Starting point is 04:10:02 He poe. That's one. That's one. No, no, no. I think he's getting 25 bans for this one. I ain't gonna lie. No, no, not, not. Nah, not, act.
Starting point is 04:10:12 Nah, act. Listen, nigga. It was 2,500 a plane ticket, nigger. And no jumper, and no jumper. Ain't even off for the nigger a hot meal and cottage, nigger. The nigger is a part of a punt.
Starting point is 04:10:24 last nigga, man. But that's one thing. Secondly is this, though, act. Again, what I said was, I feel like his actions got his daughter hit up. I'm saying, nigga, at that time, his daughter got killed was, bro, that was in the heel of the moment, nigga, right when young dog got killed, his name popping up. So again, I ain't disrespect her, you feel me? I am violator, but I did pull ass nigga to play with me.
Starting point is 04:10:48 Then I'll violate her, you feel me? Then I'm a disrespecter. But right now, nigga, I'm gonna let the dead. Rest in peace. Why, damn, pull-ass nigga from Memphis to come to my city thinking he's going to violate. Listen, act, act, bro, act, bro, act, act, act. Listen, my nigga, I promise you, nigga. I promise you, nigga.
Starting point is 04:11:06 Let's make sure you move it right, though, flaco. Make you move it right. Like, man, act. Do not go to no cookie store, no cookie store. Man, act, listen, bro, I don't violate it every time. Listen, bro, every nigga, y'all caught tough on the internet. In L.A., I don't violate him. What happened?
Starting point is 04:11:25 Ain't simple podcasting, but listen, bro, I told these bitch-ass niggas, because, act, no,
Starting point is 04:11:30 act, listen, bro. Oh, if you play with you, Blago, you got to tell the truth, man. Man,
Starting point is 04:11:36 act, listen, bro, all these tough niggers, bro, come on the internet and
Starting point is 04:11:39 say, man, flacker when I catch you, I'll die by my respect, nigger. I tell these bitch-ass,
Starting point is 04:11:45 niggas, stupid-nigas, I'll kill by my respect, nigga, we're not dying over this shit, nigga, I'll kill by my respect.
Starting point is 04:11:54 If we end that interview, again, I'm gonna be in that interview. I promise you that. Again, in that bitch-ass, nigga. Yo, Flacco, I'm gonna lie. I'm fucking out of him, nigga, that's a fact. Now, Flaco, I ain't gonna lie. I don't think he's gonna be in that interview. I ain't gonna think you're gonna be in that.
Starting point is 04:12:10 Ag. That's a goat move. If you in that interview who's standing, stand on in it, bro? Like. I listen, I'll listen, bro. I can listen, bro. I promise you, nigger. Unless he call up the white man and back the white man to not include me in the interview, nigga.
Starting point is 04:12:29 I'm gonna be right in that interview. Yeah. Popping my shit. Yeah. You feel me? And I did. Listen, bro. He's like,
Starting point is 04:12:36 what, five foot four? A hundred and sixty pounds now. I can't hear a little, nigga, bro. No way. I'm smacking the fuck out the nigga, man. Come on. Bro, stop playing with you, man. Why did he bring your name up?
Starting point is 04:12:48 Like, he got someone smoke for you? Ag. Act. Act, act. Act. Act. Listen, bro, this is why, bro, I told them bitch-hats niggas, too, man. And, like, who left me off the top 25 media list, bro?
Starting point is 04:13:02 I said, listen, man, outside of big eye, Joe Budden. Come on man. Can't know media, nigga, fuck with flakle, bro. You know what I'm saying? And damn show can't know West Coast media, nigga, fuck with flakle, nigga. I'll be real, my nigga. All the media niggas is on hip-hop dX.
Starting point is 04:13:17 I outperform hip-hip hip-d-X by myself, nigga. By myself. The views and electric's poosers, that's one. And why they're acting like DJ Head more important than Big Flago? What the fuck? That should have made no sense. I'll be real to act.
Starting point is 04:13:35 I'll be real to act. I'll fuck with Harry. You feel me? You feel me like I ain't going to bother my nigga in? But I'll be realto, bro. Now, you should add his spot. Numbers wise you're killing him. Man, act.
Starting point is 04:13:49 Ag. At, broken this, bro. Head in Elliot Wilson again. I fuck a bull for him. There's no disrespect. They both on hip hop. DX. Me by myself on my own channel, do more
Starting point is 04:13:59 numbers per month than hip hop DX. I'm saying how two niggas was from the West Coast is on the list and my channel bigger than hip-hop D-X. That's one. But secondly, it's this though. That's why the nigga is so impressed about flackle, bro. Because, well, outside of academics and Joe Butter, nigga,
Starting point is 04:14:15 can no media nigger say, yo, he's bigger than big flock. It's not happening, nigga. Can't know, listen, can't know media, nigga, bro. Again, down to every nigga you want a name. Can none of them say the bigger to me, act? That's a fact. Listen, I shift the culture now, nigga.
Starting point is 04:14:30 So hence, that poor-ass, nigga, from me, that pole-ass nigger, seen me popping my shit because he knows. Hey, listen. Why are you talking like you're ready to crash out, though? He'd be sounding like, yo, your- I'm gonna tell you why, though, Al. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:14:43 Listen, I'll tell you why, though, act. I don't know who got them niggas indicted, act, again, if you go back in time, right? Back in time. Yeah. So when they found, again, when they found the white Mercedes, at their crib. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:14:57 I was the first nigga to hop on on YouTube and say, hold on. I know who'll be filming music videos at that crib, nigga is Jojo
Starting point is 04:15:03 Splat and Stray Drop. Stray Drop was arrested for the murder. And then once Stray Drop got arrested, that's when the pieces fell. So he blaming me for dumb bitch
Starting point is 04:15:13 ass niggas getting indicted, nigga. I don't give a fuck eh, hey, hey, bro, out of this is my nigga.
Starting point is 04:15:19 I've been a tough right, nigga. I'm the toughest right out here, nigga. I don't give a fuck about telling snitching bro, I want them niggas
Starting point is 04:15:26 in jail. So again, he's mad because he's coming to no jump-or. You're going to call the police before you show up or you're going to stand on business like no police. I think I would call police because he looked like he down to like bring some killers with him. Because like, I think he paid them niggins
Starting point is 04:15:41 for the murder, even though he promised like 30 bands. Like, he might be... Not $800. Nah, $800 you pay them, niggas, $800 for the money. To add. Man, out, bro, listen, boo. Man, act, bro, act, ag,
Starting point is 04:15:56 bro, listen, my nigga. Street niggers are stupid, right? So, again, act, these niggas
Starting point is 04:16:03 got back on morals, right? Again, I will smack this nigga. If he gets froggy, I'll pop at him. And then the minute he popped back, nigga,
Starting point is 04:16:13 I'll rat on his bitch ass and then his stupid ass going to say, I can't, bro, I can't tell the police he shot at me first because that snitching.
Starting point is 04:16:20 These niggers is retorted, but we're going to exploit these bitch ass niggas, bro again can no nigger talk tough on the internet and stand in front of me act i'd improve the nigga any nigga in the bro any nigga you don't heard my nigga on the internet nigga speak about flaco they been in my same city like hey by the way do you think do you think sedy nash was a little bit scared or do you think nah like nobody's scared in his name i'll be real man again setty my brother you feel me and like he big six out so i'm gonna tell setty this okay
Starting point is 04:16:54 so city national got the advantage i got you know why at oh well it didn't say he brought woody to the west coast and they loved them over there exactly but here's why city nash i don't got the advantage i got bro bro city nash is a gang banger gang bangers are stupid they play by stupid rules so hence city got to play by the rules meaning this okay that nigger probably going to feel comfortable
Starting point is 04:17:21 if he backs the door setty you feel me a bag on setting head he's a pop that setty knowing that all setty can do is try to play the rules these niggers don't play with me that because they know my nigger
Starting point is 04:17:33 my pistol work nigger I'll pop at you and tell him on you all these nicks is terrified you got your license out there in Cali nigger yeah yeah you know act
Starting point is 04:17:45 remember act act act act listen also too though I'll be rural act when I came to see you, nigga. And when you walk in the door, nigga, and pull that big shit out your drawers and put it on the table,
Starting point is 04:17:57 nigger, and say, yeah, I'm good at the carrie. You're right. I told you about that. Man, I can, bro. I'll be wrong, my nigga. Listen. Every day somebody's telling me they're going to kill me. I'm mad, paranoid. I make sure I keep a loaded weapon on me.
Starting point is 04:18:15 I like my Zev, but sometimes you might catch me with a glat 19 on me. You know what I mean? Today might be a Beretta day, but listen, you always got to keep something. Again, every day when I check my DMs, I hear 50 niggas tell me how they're going to kill me, so I just don't know. But yeah, so you say you protected out there, though. I'm glad I hear that. Okay.
Starting point is 04:18:36 Man, act, act, act, man. Listen, bro, I finally know what those bitch-ass niggas feel like, homie. But I remember, don't act like, bro, like, as kids, they always say, right? Listen, as kids, they always say, act, man, when you finally get a gun, you feel like a superhero. I'll be real, act. Man, listen, bro, when that shit touched my hair, my nigga, I feel invincible, my nigga.
Starting point is 04:19:00 These bitch-ass, niggas, I'll be real, my nigga. I'll be, listen, hey, hey, oh, act, act, act, act, hey. Listen, bro, I've been a gangbaker. Listen, my nigga, listen, my nigga. Listen, act, I be real, bro. I've been banging one deuce, which is 12. I'm police, but I'll be real. Even with one boost, nigga, I felt protected.
Starting point is 04:19:26 I never feel this tough in my life, nigga. I'll be real, and then, act, listen, bro, I ain't never feel this tough. I ain't never feel this invincible, nigga. These bitch-ass niggas don't want to play with me now. Act, you know why, my nigga? You know why, bro? Yeah. Act.
Starting point is 04:19:40 Yo. Act, listen, my, nigga. Suppose he comes to no jumper. I hear it no jumper. You can't bring it in there. So now he's in there with you, and he's like, yo, him and his, Memphis goons, they're ready to squabble. And they say, yo, if you act up and leave
Starting point is 04:19:55 this spot, we're going to do you like Sauce Walker. Who can't bring me act? Listen, my nigga. Again, Adam, my nigga, bro. Again, Adam, my nigga, bro. I fuck with Adam, bro. Without white, man, know not to play with me, my nigga.
Starting point is 04:20:10 For me, bro, listen, bro, Adam can't tell me, nigga, don't bring your piece in this shit. Listen, again, Adam, my brother, I'll fuck with him, bro. But Adam, no, he can't play with my dad. Listen, bro. Listen, Adam cannot prevent me from bringing my gun in that building, nigga. If that nigga make a threat to me online and he wants me messing him doing an interview, nigga, Adam can't tell me, hey, time to do this interview with this nigga who just threatened you,
Starting point is 04:20:37 but don't bring your gun. I'll be real, my nigga. Listen, I'll be real, my nigga. Dawn, I'm like a viral, nigga. Listen, bro. I'm walking out bitch, nigga. Listen, I'm walking out bitch, nigga. Pulling out my draws, nigga, you feel me? And put it on the table, nigga,
Starting point is 04:20:53 and try that bitch-ass, nigga, make your move. I bet you he won't move, nigga. He's probably looking at it, like, you know, he from Memphis. He got a couple of niggas knocked off. He might be like, yo, who does flaco? I get, yo. He's like, yo, we'll have a flaco blunt in a minute. Like, he might be thinking, like,
Starting point is 04:21:10 yo, he could have it his way. Man, man, man, phim. Hey, act, listen. Oh, yo, yo, bro, bro, I'm act. Listen, I have to run now, but hey, listen, nigga. Bro, I'm coming September 11, nigga. Let's lock in. All right, man.
Starting point is 04:21:27 Text me, text me, text me. All right. All right. Damn. My flock on this, goo shit now. Yo. Yo, let me tell this, man. Anytime, I'm going to give you all a good advice, chat.
Starting point is 04:21:41 I'm going to give you all a good advice. This is real talk. I've had my gun license now for a minute. Yeah, I know I have about over 200,000. thousand dollars in guns. I have a lot of weapons. You know, now it's like when I go out and I have a weapon on me, like I'm not thinking about it as much. When I first got my gun license,
Starting point is 04:22:00 honestly, I was thinking about a lot. And I, like, it was like, that was like one of the first things on my mind. And the reason was is when, especially you're somebody who, you know, you're not from that life where you used to be toting a gun or something like that. When the moment when you get a gun, I hear what Flacco was saying, I just hope you can't take it to heart, though.
Starting point is 04:22:22 You can't take it to your head. Like, you got to realize you only have a gun because you're playing defense. You're not getting a gun to feel tough. You ain't getting a gun to push up on, niggis. You're getting a gun that, again, you know, I've always thought about weapons like this. I have weapons at my house,
Starting point is 04:22:39 not because I think that I'm all fucking, like John Wick. Listen, if somebody's trying to break in my house, I'm going to call the police, and I hope I never get in the situation, but I hope I could create five minutes. It takes about five minutes, well, probably less than that in my neighborhood. It takes about five minutes for police to respond. I just want to buy myself five minutes. That's it.
Starting point is 04:23:03 I'm not saying I'm going to kill everybody. I'm going to bury them over there, and it's one that got to calm it down. Well, yeah, Flaco just got, look like, Flaco got his strap on him now. You might have to pistol whipping a thing at no jumper. Right now, Flacco's on bad time. You got to get Flacco six months. Get Flacco six months that he could cool down with his weapon. But right now, you heard him.
Starting point is 04:23:24 He's like, yo, man, shit, I'm... What? Anyway, let's keep playing this. I didn't know this guy. I guess he kind of looks short. You know who he looks like? He looks like the mayor of New York City. That's what he looks like.
Starting point is 04:23:40 Okay, okay. So you're talking like you're paying niggas on Instagram. You're saying all that goofy. That's how I know you're goofy. You're saying shit like that on iTunes. We bought a whack after this. No, you said I'm paying niggas. I said if I was to pay niggas, it'd be the paint niggas.
Starting point is 04:23:54 Ain't none of that shit on my rap. I'm a nigga that get my hands dirty. I ain't got to pay nobody. I tell my niggas, hey, nigga, don't breathe. Let that nigga go. I'll pay L.A. to stay off your ass just so I can catch you. What is you talking about?
Starting point is 04:24:06 And, nigga, I plan to be at no jump or son. Ain't there one of your second halls, niggled? You can meet me there, nigger. Man, if I catch you at no jumper, you're going to catch the black part of my hand, nigger. You type of a nigga I smack with the back of my head. Guys, that's your ass in front of Adam, Remo. What's the name, made the goofy-haired shit by my daughter?
Starting point is 04:24:27 The fat girl thing. Man, you know. I kick your ass. You old-ass niggas, bro. I swear, fuck God. All that, all that Memphis shit, that shit cool with Memphis. Outside of Memphis, nigga, that shit don't fly, bro. Fuck is you talking about.
Starting point is 04:24:43 I real-life, nigga, beat the shit out you. Beat dog shit out you. bitch the dog piss on you, bro. Don't show up in LA, nigga, don't get no Vlad TV interview, no jumper interview, no camp Capone interview, no none of that. Don't bring your monkey ass to LA,
Starting point is 04:24:59 nigga. I'm trying to tell you. I'm already book. You think I ain't coming to get my money, nigga? I'm going to send you the contract and let you know what day and see if your line man is going to pull up, nigga. Whatever money you get, nigga, you better save that shit. Whatever money you get,
Starting point is 04:25:15 save that shit, bro. Because Niggia, they're gonna need it. But the money you making on this motherfucking YouTube, you need to put it on your life insurance. Fuck, what? Leave it like that. Maybe check my profile, nigga. One thing I, one thing I do is I walk through shit.
Starting point is 04:25:31 Huh? Your profile say hell of a podcast, nigga. That's all I get from it, nigga. And shit gangster about your profile, nigga, and I'll see you soon, nigga. Let me call it whack. I don't know what's going on like this. Let me spark this OSS.
Starting point is 04:26:11 Chat. W. Instigator. Watch it. Yo. Yo, Wack. What up? I'm just checking in on everybody, man. I heard that Hernandez-Govine, nigga.
Starting point is 04:26:21 By the, I'm on stream. I heard that Hernandez-Govon, nigga, about to come to L.A. Oh, okay. What's wrong with him coming to L.A.? Man, he said he got a slap list. He got niggins he's trying to meet up with. Hey, well, shit. I mean, that's that man's prerogative.
Starting point is 04:26:37 Who's on this slap list? I don't really know too much about it, Mom. I know somebody tried to call me this morning and he sent me some paperwork on him. That wasn't paperwork. And I kind of told the dude, that ain't no paperwork. You know what I'm saying? But he said everybody, he said everybody who's speaking bad on his name.
Starting point is 04:26:57 When he gets, he says SETI Nash is his first target. But he said he said Flacco might get it too. Well, I don't think he's going to do nothing to flakle. And I advise him not to do nothing to flaco. The Settie Nash shit, I looked at it. I think Setti Nash is a terrible actor. It just looked like a play to me. It just did make sense.
Starting point is 04:27:21 What do you mean an actor? Isn't he like a rolling 60 guy? No, listen, whatever that is, that's his business to explain. I'm saying the IV shit we saw with him and the brother that was just acquitted or beat the case, that shit loves some act. She wasn't real, bro. No way. No, no, no.
Starting point is 04:27:46 That nigga looks serious, whack. I'm gonna keep it up here. Academic. That nigga looks dead serious. I can't hear me. That's an act. Whack. That thing looks dead serious.
Starting point is 04:27:57 What? Academic. That thing is just... Hear me. Academic. You think that's a play? That's not a play. That's a play.
Starting point is 04:28:05 If I'm telling you, I know what's to play, it's a reason I'm telling you I know what's a play. So, now, here goes the fact that I've been. telling everybody about Govan or Govon whatever his name is. The fact that this case went to jury
Starting point is 04:28:25 trial tells us any and all documented telling, snitching anything comes out when you go to jury trial. When a nigga take a deal, that's what
Starting point is 04:28:42 niggas could hide shit. And then you'll see it when people refile on appeals. Bro, I told a nigga this morning, I'm going to put it up on my Instagram. You're going to see him. Bro, I don't care what you say. The nigga went to trial and beat
Starting point is 04:28:58 it. If he was telling on somebody, it would have came out there. So at the end of the day, you niggins is worse than the district attorney. At least the district attorney brought charges and allegations that presented the case. Nigger, present the case. What you got
Starting point is 04:29:15 to say that this man did something long. The nigga just said in the box three, four years. Why, I ain't gonna allow you. He one of them niggas who looked serious, and I think, I don't give a fuck about a look, bro. I'm telling you, when people call me about this man, I don't know it. You can't show me nothing.
Starting point is 04:29:36 We just watch the trial. We listen to everything come out. I didn't hear that. Did you hear that the nigger told on somebody? No, I didn't hear that. I think what happened is that this is why Yogadi's brother, Big Jook was never going to get charged, and Goddy definitely won't get charged.
Starting point is 04:29:55 The only proof they have this nigga is involved is the shooter. They have no proof. And that shooter is telling him to try to get that. They have zero. See, this is how this is work, bro. The shooter's saying the middle man is to go by and do, right? Yeah. If you can't convict the middleman as being a middleman,
Starting point is 04:30:15 How do you get to the bag man? Because the shooter never had any deal with the alleged bag man, right? So they needed to convict Govind, give him 100 years, tell him we'll give you a deal for 15 if you tell us where you got the money from. But the buck stopped at Govon. He was proven to be innocent of even giving this dude anybody. They didn't have the text messages they said they had. They didn't have none of these things, right?
Starting point is 04:30:42 They ain't have it. So at the end of the day Like, bro, it's one thing To be scrutinized for four years Because you wait on the trial and evidence To come out Motherfucker, he went to trial The evidence is showing
Starting point is 04:30:56 He didn't do it Lead a man alone Yeah, no, no, no I think he should get out of Memphis I've seen Kieglok said Keyglock said, man, my city failed me But I was like, oh, that's what you say When you're like
Starting point is 04:31:12 What do you mean is city fair? No, but I think he's double talking. I think he's trying to throw the police off. You know them PRE dudesman. Like, they killed like 60 people over over Dahl. I think he just... I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 04:31:26 None of us know anything about that. Has somebody been arrested and said, I committed these murders over Dahl? If not, Nick, let's not... Everybody dead! Like, everybody's dying. Listen, bro, people was dying prior to Dahl's death, and people has gone to die.
Starting point is 04:31:43 after they're going to continue to die because with life comes death let's not dirty up PRE's name and say they're motherfucking label over here that's killing people because ain't none of that proven to be true.
Starting point is 04:32:00 Yeah, you're right about that. But what I will say is that I've never seen more action that happened over somebody passing. Youngdorf is number one in hip-hop history. Everybody that is somebody like even this guy, You know, I wish him well, but, you know, it looked like everybody have unfortunate situations
Starting point is 04:32:18 if they were ever involved or even thought to be involved in that dog situation. Again, I don't know who doing it. I don't know what's happening to them, but that's live for dogship is, bro. Only thing I'm saying, they had a bunch of net. Is they saying the go by and dude is the one orchestrated to hit me? Then they saying Jook is the one paid the Govind dude
Starting point is 04:32:45 Then they're saying Yo Gotti had his own brother Kilt funny his fucking mother To silence that because This is all a bunch of shit These dudes And there'll be dudes It'll be a bunch of shit
Starting point is 04:32:57 Just going Ebert Motherfuck is over here Who don't understand Nothing Just creating shit And then the internet Runs with the narrative Look I will expose the motherfucker
Starting point is 04:33:07 But I'm expose the motherfucker With some facts And what it is right? This shit right here the nigga just went to the box. He went to the box on the jury trial, bro. God damn. When could the nigga
Starting point is 04:33:20 exhale? So basically you're saying from what you know he kept this solid. What we all just seen? We all just you know what the nigga sent me today? A.I. breakdown of this man's name.
Starting point is 04:33:37 He's saying AI said he told. What nigger? I say that's the nigga on the video, but it's AI, you stupid motherfucker. You get what I'm saying? Like, bro, give me a docket number. Give me a docket number, bro. That says, because he, if he would have told he wouldn't have never went to trial,
Starting point is 04:33:58 they would have just gave him his deal. Yeah. You don't tell and go to trial. Nah, you're right. You're right. Hey, any update with the Lil Zeyo song? situation. Little Zay Osama, we went through his paperwork,
Starting point is 04:34:14 this is the thing. There was nothing in the paperwork that says Little Zay Osama told on anybody in particular. The breakdown of the paperwork personal opinion is definitely suspicious because we don't understand why the feds usually take a case from the state to give you more time.
Starting point is 04:34:35 The state of New York would have gave him three, five, seven, eight years, right for this. That's New York. The fans gave him 14 months. So that's a little weird. And every time he had a felony, it got dropped to a misdemeanor. So this end, the AUSA was recommending that he get time. And usually the judge goes with the AUSA recommendation.
Starting point is 04:35:01 No, but we don't know. Maybe the fuck, the Uber wasn't ordering his name. Maybe it was some details in that case to where it could have went either way. Now we're going to dig and get the discovery because if in the discovery, these things are there that the Uber wasn't ordered in his name or it was other fingerprints along with his on there, then we need to put this same shit on the internet to show this is the reason why he got it. Right now, we are definitely scratching our head or how he got it. But is there anything in the paperwork to say Zay Osama gave up information if there's safety vow? Is there a rule 35? Nothing's there to say that this man gave up information.
Starting point is 04:35:47 It's just a particular of the case and the time he got on what we used to seeing 10 out of 10 people get is just a little suspicious. So he wanted like an apology if you couldn't come with like the snitch paperwork stuff. Is he going to get one or fuck that? I did it on no jumper. I called him. Oh, okay. And that's why right now when you asked me, I could have kept, you know, non-whootty-whoop.
Starting point is 04:36:20 So at the end of the day, and I'm going to still stand on it because I really at this point, I want to go find a discovery, and I want the discovery to say it was more fingerprints on the gun and his. I want the discovery to say somebody else ordered to Uber, so it was a different account, and the gun was ultimately found in the back end, and maybe it's possible, because now at that point, I can say, well, this is the reason why he got the 14 months, and at this point, it's not even a need to question that. So because we started it, now me and my team, we got to end it. We got to end it with either nigger, this is the reason, or it's questionable. But I will tell you this.
Starting point is 04:37:08 There's nothing in the documents we're reading now that say he got a Rule 35 safety bow that or he cooperated. But if all things isn't there to say, what the fuck is going on? This is machine gun. The AUSA was recommending severe time, and he got this. But now we got to go dig and see why he got that. And it's probably there. It is probably in the discovery. So we're going to keep it going.
Starting point is 04:37:37 But at this point, there's nothing to say. He gave up informational cooperated to get the 14 months, but we still haven't found out the details of particulars on how he got the 14 months. Nah, that makes sense. And by the way, I think a lot of people are happy that, you know, they thought that, you know, your ego would have been like, you know what? I'm going to double down even though I don't have the full thing. This shit ain't personal, act.
Starting point is 04:38:04 Yeah. Act, but we want a niggas work. This shit ain't personal. It's just what it is. You call it a spay. Yeah, it's what I didn't wear people's work, bro. At, you know, me and Jim Jones was very close. You know that.
Starting point is 04:38:19 Yeah, yeah. We were close. That was cool. Yeah, right? So, but when the shit hit the table, I mean, I listened to it and I gave my opinion. You know, shit, I call it spade the spade, right? At the end of the day, it is what it is. And I ain't got nothing personal against Zay Osama.
Starting point is 04:38:41 And I would hate to be the dude that took him off his square to where he got to take a chance at defending his name and end up dead or in jail behind him. some mothership, right? But again, if we find something and that's what it is, that's what it's going to be. If we find something that supports why he got it, then just as loud as we question how he got it, and we're going to expose
Starting point is 04:39:07 in his favor, why he got it. That's it. Is this today personally? No, that's definitely valid. I think a lot of people will have respect for that. So, you know what I mean? Again, for the record, it appears that
Starting point is 04:39:23 they're still looking into Lil Zay Osama's stuff but Wack could say after looking so far there has been nothing that that says that you know there's a clear cooperation Nothing
Starting point is 04:39:38 Nothing nothing It's nothing there It's like me getting arrested right For the same shit big meat got arrested for And I get three years Niggins gonna say what happened Yeah. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 04:39:52 Hey, did that other dude on No Jumper? He told us, what's the name? Munchy B? Well, the thing was weird about Munchy B is when we dug into his back history, the nigger keep getting O-Rs. O-Rs is something
Starting point is 04:40:08 academic you will get. It means you went to jail at together, right? Yeah. They're going to give you an O.R. What's that? The only con is, meaning, they're going to release. you from jail
Starting point is 04:40:21 with no bail, no nothing because you have no criminal history, right, and on your own recondent. They're going to tell me because of my criminal history and this and this other, I have to poke the bonds. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 04:40:38 Now, this nigga been to prison. He's an ex-kind. He just got caught with two guns. He got prior gun cases, and he got O-R'd with no bail. But as we dug in his history, he got previous cases that they owe on them. So we're trying to figure out,
Starting point is 04:40:56 we know you part of the grid program. Is this the reason why they owe on you? Why they owe on you and you're not forced to put up a bail like any other gang-file ex-convict career criminal-ass niggins. Hmm. So, you know, we're looking into it. That's the only thing seeing fishy.
Starting point is 04:41:17 It's fucked up. His homies lined him up. Maybe it's a reality check. Because where they was at, two of his homies that was winning saw the police coming. Again, they saw the police coming and placed the pistol right winning and calmly walked away. Hey, by the way, I seen you like, you did something on Jay Prince and him. I don't think they're too happy with you at.
Starting point is 04:41:44 No, okay. This is Jay Prince cousin, slash. one of his right-hand man goons named DeMarcus Ward right aka D1 act I can show you my phone for two years and I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 04:42:01 you got these niggins on your phone this nigga text me and antagonized and harassed me about J. Pritz right? So I woke up the other day and decided let me put the team on you I put the exposers on him
Starting point is 04:42:17 right and guess what comes back this niggins sex offender. What? You sex traffic 2 minus, age 14 and 17, has sex with him, transporting him from Atlanta to Alabama
Starting point is 04:42:32 to sell their body. So this is the nigga. You've been fucking with me for two years. So now I said, you know what, let me look into this too. Lifting to him, pulled him up. He's registered. Y'all can go to the Atlanta,
Starting point is 04:42:46 the Georgia's sex regulations. Registry put in Demarkus B.M.A.R.C.U.S. Ward, W.A.R.D. A. A.K.A. boss. You'll see his picture pop up. Sex offender register. So now I'm like, okay, nigga. You say you're Jay Prince cousin and his right-hand man. Nick, I got shit on my phone that I know Jay Prince ain't knowing. He's sending me. Yeah, Jay Prince man just got out. This Larry Hoover guy just got out boom, boom, boom. Jay Prince got his T-Fix and dick this for him. Like, nigger, what's up with you? And we all this shit, right? So I just was ignoring it. I was bored the other day and we went, bro. I'm going to tell y'all, if you got skeletons in your closet, do not come fucking with me.
Starting point is 04:43:33 I have a team, bro. A team. A very strategic team that will find it. Leave me to fuck alone. I don't fuck with nobody. I respond to people. Me reading within the blogs and giving. my personal opinion is not
Starting point is 04:43:50 me fucking with anybody. That's me simply reading what's in the blogs and giving my personal opinion. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So is Jay Prince mad at me or is he mad at his guy for fucking with whack
Starting point is 04:44:06 or you mad at your guy? Are you judging Jay Prince that his friend is... I've got to judge him because this is your right hand and your cousin that's with you, that you sent at me. You think Jay Prince sent him at you?
Starting point is 04:44:24 Bro, that's what he's, bro. It's just, nigga, he didn't call me right, nigga, what he write. I didn't hurt the nigga in the background. This nigga, bro, this nigga antagonizes the fuck out of me. If I sent you a screen recording on my text issue with this, Nick,
Starting point is 04:44:39 you'd be like, God damn. So my thing is, Jay Prince, either you didn't know that your family, your cousin, went to the feds or sex offense or minors or you did know
Starting point is 04:44:55 and ignoring it so if you didn't know you shouldn't be mad at me because now I'm alerting you but if you did know if you're mad at me because I'm exposing that you portray this role
Starting point is 04:45:08 that you're just so solid and you street and you did and everything around you are solid then fucking be mad you've been exposed Hey, when are you and Jay Prince gonna, you know, kind of squash all this issues, man? It ain't nothing. Here's the problem, Act.
Starting point is 04:45:24 You know Jay Prince from stories. You don't know. I heard he's a boogeyman. Okay. I already got a thousand niggas buried in in Houston. Listen. In the fields. Here it go, Act.
Starting point is 04:45:37 You heard. So based upon what you heard, you react to that. Now, act, this is a nigger I know. I've been in front of. I've seen get kicked in his ass and run down the street. So you, which one is Jay Prince? The baby Jay Prince?
Starting point is 04:45:54 Jay Prince, Jew or Jazz Prince? No. The Daddy. Nah, stop it. Nigga, Paul Roo. I personally have been in front of him, nigga, at Sunday service, nigga, addressing him about when we was getting,
Starting point is 04:46:09 hey, homie, he didn't know I was there. Hey, shit downtown L.A. Hey, homie. What's happening with this shit you talking about? Who did you? he was with Dionne Sanders ex-wife, dead homies. Right? Me and him in the alley.
Starting point is 04:46:23 None of that fire. So, niggas is talking about this, this, this. You niggas that come into the game and you're young and you hearing stories, right? That's for you to believe. I'm not going to believe when my reality is I've been in front of you. My reality is I watched you get kicked in the mother. fucking ass. My reality is I know things. That
Starting point is 04:46:50 shit don't work with me. It's a lot of these niggas I know things about that I can really say some shit about that y'all niggas is thinking this and that because I've been here. I'm the only nigga like me act in this game that come from those eras
Starting point is 04:47:05 that been here that will talk about it. These niggas that know, but they just don't talk about it. Yeah, no, I think you and J. Prince need a talk because, you know, like, I don't, you know, you know, at some point you got to go to Houston, and at some point you got to come to L.A., you know. Hey, dog, this is the fact of the matter.
Starting point is 04:47:28 Dude 60 years old, if you want to believe that he was running around doing all these things and nothing never happened and he never seen the inside of a prison yard, that's on you. It's great marketing. I don't believe it because I've seen the things I've seen that I know. what I know. You get what I'm saying? A lot of these niggas be talking about niggas the boogeyman, but they've set in my office on my couch with their head down talking about what I'm going to do. I need help. You can't tell me that niggins the boogeyman. Now, whatever you want to believe from whatever story, that's on you. You get what I'm saying? That's on you.
Starting point is 04:48:10 Right? But my reality of what shit is, it's very real. Do 60 years of. If I was 60 years old, I would leave a nigga like me to fuck alone because ain't nothing going to come from it. But some bullshit. And at the end of the day, your only issue with me is that I chose to defend an elderly black woman to keep her from getting ran over. All y'all seen the transaction. Everything he lied about, I put up.
Starting point is 04:48:40 Wack, you never told me I didn't know you was dealing with her. I'll put it up. Wack, thanks for putting us in contact. Can you answer this? Can we create the contract? Put his name on the contracts. So like Jay Prince, what you mean? Niggas, I'm going to Wack knew Wack knew
Starting point is 04:48:56 because you're going through Wack to do the business. I just protected the lady. That nitty can't tell you I took nothing. I did some bad business. I declined to set somebody up. His problem with me is that I interfered in an elderly black woman being took advantage of.
Starting point is 04:49:15 Nick, if that's your problem with me, had a problem. Yeah. Other than that, my nigga, dude 60 years old. I suggest he leave me the fuck alone because we're going to crash. Nicky, you need to stay over there and live your life. Live a good life. Live your life and be cool because ain't nothing going to come from this, nigga, but some fire.
Starting point is 04:49:37 Everything going to get burnt. I'm good with it. Are you? No, that's the fact. Now, you're right. You're right. You're right. We ain't, listen.
Starting point is 04:49:47 One thing about a West Coast, nigger, and one thing about a New York nigger, and the Chicago, one thing about them areas right there. We come from the land of Bougieman, Florida as well.
Starting point is 04:50:02 Your story's about a nigga in another land don't move us. Yeah. Because we got a bunch of boogeyman in our local cemeteries. So niggas know what to do with
Starting point is 04:50:15 boogeyman. All we do is say boo. That's it. I'm just being real. Now go talk that shit to a nigga from, you know, North Dakota, hour or something. Look at that shit, though.
Starting point is 04:50:30 Nigga, what? Bring your ass on over here playing. Let boogie man whack go to the Bronx run around playing boogie man. My ass going to be ex-Bookyman. Let a nigga from New York run his ass.
Starting point is 04:50:45 This is Chicago playing a boogeyman. He's going back to New York in the cargo area of a Delta flight. That shit don't work in some of these places. Act, you know that. It just don't. Whatever story you got, we have experienced and lived that real story right here. Whoever this nigga, you say this is, we know 50 niggins who was way more than that, who got their TV turned off at the end of the day.
Starting point is 04:51:12 Shit don't work with us, bro. Go use that shit on. somebody else. Nah, you're right. You're right. But, yo, what, let me hit you back in a little bit. I just wanted to call you on that,
Starting point is 04:51:21 um, that I'll check you, I'll send you that information on them people. They seem to be thorough. You're playing. All right. All right. Just takes,
Starting point is 04:51:28 takes back into the threat. Yeah. All right. All right. Holy. Okay. Anyway, Key Glock did say that his city failed him.
Starting point is 04:51:41 And I'm going to be honest with you. Key Glock is, is doing what, I don't lie. I think these PRE niggas, they're just ready to go kill niggas, man. Well, I'm saying PRE, but it's probably not PRI. It's probably just people who love Dolf. And he's like, my city failed, but what's new?
Starting point is 04:51:56 Shrug. That shrug alone is telling me, I got to act like I'm mad that you're coming, you're going to be free. But this is exactly what we wanted because we don't want you in jail. We want you dead. Everybody else died. Anyway, this is, we saw this video already. Okay, let me see. Ritchie's coming home.
Starting point is 04:52:16 Boston Ritchie's actually won his trial versus the feds, him and his co-defendants that were facing over 25 years for, I think it was drugs and guns, and he was charged with three things. He beat two of the charges, and the other charge he supposedly is going to face three trial for. He just beat the fedsons high-profile federal case involving drugs in a gun that had him and his co-defendants tearing down 25 years behind bars. The courtroom verdict came back, not guilty, cleared his name, sent his shockwaves through the industry for months of speculation, swirls.
Starting point is 04:52:44 and about whether or not he could overcome the heavy charges. But today, outcome marks a major victory for the Florida rapper. Fans and supporters are celebrating while Richie is now going to walk free. Let me see if I'll find some more info on it. Yeah. So the details, you know, revealing complex. They review it. During Tallahassee, they found him not guilty of possession of firearm by a convicted felon.
Starting point is 04:53:13 and also not guilty of a possession of firearm and furtherance of a drug trafficking offense. His co-defendant Ray Sean Foster, better known as Real Bossing Gleazy, was also found not guilty of the same two charges. They faced an additional charge that the jury could not decide on, which is conspiracy to distribute marijuana.
Starting point is 04:53:31 Now, clearly, we all know this, oh, sorry, I couldn't see it. Clearly, we know how this usually goes. The rapper is going to claim through his lawyer. Well, we're just rappers who have a lot of money. we buy a lot of weed. We weren't trying to distribute it. That was our personal use.
Starting point is 04:53:48 Now, a lot of times the government and what they instruct the jury to consider is a lot lesser amount as a personal use amount or amount that is not intended for distribution. But I would imagine a jury could be kind of be torn about it because rappers and their lifestyle,
Starting point is 04:54:04 they have a lot of drugs or they smoke a lot of weed. So maybe they have a bunch that seemingly could be for distribution. But if you think by the circumstances could also not be. So they're thinking about that charge and apparently they might not bring it again,
Starting point is 04:54:20 but he's facing retrial for that charge. Apparently he's going to get out on Monday. His brother did call me, and, you know, I'm pretty cool with Boston with Richie, so I'm happy that he's getting out. Now, what people didn't realize is that he was on, um, he was on bond for this particular charge
Starting point is 04:54:36 in this particular trial. And what allowed his bond to be revoked and he was locked up the last couple months is that his girl went to the cops and said he beat my ass now didn't i tell you i try to stay out of dick and pussy business because it says richie was said to be initially released until his new trial but the decision was reversed after it came to light that he has a warrant in texas presumably presumably over the charges stemming from the attack on his girlfriend let me let me give you out of truth about this his girlfriend going to be right there with him picking him up from jail sucking his dick the first day she's going to show up in texas and
Starting point is 04:55:08 act like all that choking shit never happened you know why he's going to buy her some shit he's going to get back on the road get back to the clubs make some money trick on her and they're going to fight again like how most toxic couples do um what people don't realize is that his girlfriend who claimed that he choked her that allowed you know well her report to the police about it allowed for him his bond to get revoked and all this stuff to happen and he had to go through the job before getting out she's been at his house driving his cars hanging with his family despite she was the one who made the claim that he beat her ass. So it's probably safe to assume she's going to stay with him.
Starting point is 04:55:46 And not only stay with him, she's going to help him get these charges dropped by not cooperating or whatever the case is. And again, it just kind of shows you most of these situations why you got to manage your business. This is probably at this point a move to get some compliance or leverage over him. Because if he don't treat her right, she could be like, no, fuck it. I'm going to let this trial or these charges kind of drop. drag out or keep going and who knows he might be so locked up or on house arrest which he can't
Starting point is 04:56:16 perform so yeah the same girl and the same girl that got him locked up basically supposedly went to court every day so boston richie's sister his sister made that known his sister said yo um for all the haters let's see okay she had said some other shit it was basically saying yo the girl that y'all are saying that he beat up came to court every day supporting him
Starting point is 04:56:54 why because these chicks not going to let the meal ticket walk out of the door okay so she's gonna get with him all right anyway okay little naz X and I took so chat I do have to run probably like in about like 30 minutes and so
Starting point is 04:57:15 I forgot I actually had plans with my mom and stuff so but it's not bad thing it's just that i know we took a long time on the rock nation stuff so there's a bunch of other topics we didn't get to so i apologize anyway um little naz x is actually taken in custody and i believe even brought to like a psychiatric ward or something like that after he was seen exhibiting um interest in behavior in hollywood and a video that tm z obtained showed little na's x just kind of walking down the street in cowboy boots and a brief okay and this was the interaction. Hey, don't be late to the party tonight.
Starting point is 04:57:56 Where at? You know where it's at. Go ahead, babe. No, no, no, no, no, no. Go ahead, babe. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Didn't I tell you to put the phone down? Uh-oh, somebody's going to have to pay for that.
Starting point is 04:58:14 Now, I'm going to be honest with you. This guy, whether you like him or not, fish or not he's a he's a guy who is tremendously successful for him to be rocking cowboy boots in his brief walking down some random street in hollywood i thought this was a skit i thought maybe this was a PR situation until we get to realize the police actually showed up and they deemed that he was a little bit incoherent or impaired and they didn't bring him up for bring him in for some examining um i'm listening to his voice it doesn't say see him slurred and I like that so I gotta imagine he's off some cocaine and maybe some crack he
Starting point is 04:58:55 you know something but it's definitely not liquor you see what liquor is easy for me to tell because it's I could hear the slurred voices I could I could kind of tell when I could tell when somebody drunk or is drinking or is it inebrated this shit right here I don't know what this is now what this obviously reminds us of is like many stories of of all these you know Hollywood celebrities that supposedly go crazy we heard Martin Lawrence ran out in traffic at one point. We also heard Dave Chappelle had like a similar breakdown, not running out in traffic, but felt he had to get out of there at a point.
Starting point is 04:59:28 And we've heard it associated with Hollywood. I don't know if it necessarily has to do with drugs. Some people say it's the industry, but this was rather odd. So, hey forward by coming to the party. La la la la. How's there nobody else around? Like, I guess it was that late? I guess, let's read the new story.
Starting point is 04:59:49 little naus x here we go he stripped down before a rest in a shocking new video he ditched his tidy whitties wow a shocking video obtained by TMZ was seen walking on a okay shouting lyrics
Starting point is 05:00:07 and making hand gestures as cars passed by he turned and then walked towards a person recording the video for a full front view as he sang Nicki Minaj's lyrics from Kanye West hit song monster. The rep for the rapper didn't return a comment.
Starting point is 05:00:23 Hmm. He was first spotted in a video obtained by TMZ, Roman Ventura Boulevard in Los Angeles, wearing only cowboy boots and white underwear at 4 a.m. on Thursday, reportedly told a fan who was on the way to a party before placing a traffic cone on his head. Public information officer told page 6 that multiple witnesses
Starting point is 05:00:41 notified the police in Los Angeles who arrived around 550 local time after which they told us the rapper allegedly charged at one of the officers and were taken into custody and transported to a local hospital for a possible overdose. An insider told NBC news that the rapper who's given name was Montero
Starting point is 05:00:57 Lamar Hill punched. Wow. He punched the officer twice in the face during the counter, leading to an arrest for a misdemeanor battery and a police officer, according to TMZ. The bystanders had reported to police that they saw a nude man walking down the legendary bullet barred ahead
Starting point is 05:01:12 of his arrest. So there's a video with him at the traffic home. Records obtained by page 6 showed that he was bulled, booked in L.A. at 11.22 a.m. It was being held at the Van Nuys jail throughout the weekend. In hours leading up to the incident, it was captured on surveillance footage at the Short Stories Hotel
Starting point is 05:01:33 where he was reportedly not a guest. In the footage, detained by TMZ, was seen walking around at 1.30 on Wednesday, roaming the grounds the facility. Initially wore a cowboy hat, jeans, button-up shirt, but later then removed them while grabbing a beverage and sitting on a bench in the lobby. He was seen fanning himself in a courtyard
Starting point is 05:01:49 amid the Los Angeles heat wave. I guess this is him. Wow. Prior to his arrests, he was seen in surveillance footage at a Los Angeles hotel. Were the people around him? That's odd.
Starting point is 05:02:12 I don't know, Chad. Now, you know, it's easy for me to lack empathy and be like, yo, this is the same guy who is twerking on the devil. This is the same guy who was putting out so many of these demonic and devilish imagery that, hey, listen, if you play games with the devil, you would only imagine that devilish things happen to you
Starting point is 05:02:32 so we could probably lack some compassion. For me, I'm just kind of confused. You know, we're the people around him? How is this allowed to happen? I don't know. It seems odd. Stranged wife came him on children. Let's go to TMZ real quick.
Starting point is 05:03:02 It got to be some drugs, right? Oh wow, he's stripped down fully naked. Man has had on me. The values instilled in me by my parents has shaped my character. King Buck thinking for the gift of members. My money ain't, let me get this straight. Wait, I'm the rookie, but my features and my shows 10 times it pay 50K for a first no album amount.
Starting point is 05:03:33 That has had on me the value. What the fuck? He's rapping Nicki Minaj. 50K for the no album out. Is instilled. Yeah, I guess that's her. Versa monster. I'm the Ricky.
Starting point is 05:03:48 What the fuck drugs does this to you? This is wild. Maybe this thing on his Delante West vives. Some Delante West shit. Does this thing not get booked anymore? Like, how is he like just out there like that? Does he not have shows? Hold on.
Starting point is 05:04:25 Let me look at home on this computer. What's his name again? Show up. What's his name? Um, Lil Nas X concerts. He got to have some concerts. They don't book him with festivals? They say there's no, there's no concerts.
Starting point is 05:04:46 Is he like a one-hit wonder? I thought like the gay people loved him. Wow, they're saying that there actually hasn't been a concert in like two years. Or the last time when they've, oh, never mind, never mind. Early last year, about a year ago. Sorry. Wow. Going down.
Starting point is 05:05:15 Uh-oh. Somebody's going out to pay for me. Biggest flam. Bowion of shit. Yes. I am serving you for. I am serving you and you better be at that party tonight. Oh, yeah, get my good side.
Starting point is 05:05:42 Ha, ha, ha, ha, every side. Poo, hmm, hmm, yeah. Sean Bank had taught me that one. Biaugh! Bha! Bha! That's gonna be a beautiful sunrise. Give me that phone so I can throw it.
Starting point is 05:06:22 I wanna throw it far away so you'll never see it again. I don't like phones. Don't miss the part. tonight why are you still here you need to be telling everybody about the party girl what's your problem yeah that's rather odd I'm not gonna lie that's rather odd if I had to call it I would definitely say something to do with LA I think LA has certain type of drugs and activities that got people acting like that I'm gonna be honest with you it's just not the first time I've seen such a thing you know
Starting point is 05:07:03 I don't if you ever heard Dave Chappelle no if I beat this shit I this big of about beating the shit out this nigga there you go so when Martin Lawrence was in that chair we talked about Blue Streak I love it he played a role in your life I believe how do you feel about him as a person as an artist Martin Lawrence is a guy that showed everybody you can make it from DC to Hollywood and uh I had a personal stake in his success every time he did something it made me feel inspired and really good and he was always real nice to me. He'd sit me down, what's going on with you baby boy?
Starting point is 05:07:51 Go up, what? We talk about comedy, whatever. And when we did Blue Street, we were promoting it, and Martin had a stroke. He almost died. And then after that, I saw him. And I was like, oh my God, Martin, are you OK? And he said, I got the best sleep I ever got my life.
Starting point is 05:08:14 It's how tough he is. So let me ask you this. What is happening in Hollywood that a guy that tough will be on the street waving a gun screaming, they are trying to kill me? Yeah. What's going on? Why is Dave Chappelle going to Africa? Why does Mariah Carey make a hundred million dollar deal and take a clothes off on TRL?
Starting point is 05:08:35 A weak person cannot get to sit here and talk to you. Ain't no weak people talking to you. So what is happening in Hollywood? Nobody knows. The worst thing to call somebody is crazy. somebody is crazy, it's dismissive. I don't understand this person. So they're crazy.
Starting point is 05:08:52 That's bullshit. These people are not crazy. They're strong people. Maybe the environment is a little sick. No, that sounds like that. Martin tried to put me in my first dress. When he had to go on his hiatus, he tell me, Kat, when I come back, I need you.
Starting point is 05:09:39 You're my young partner, you're my brother in comedy. When I come back, just promise me that my next movie, it'll be me and you. gonna do it together. We're gonna do some buddy cop shit. I said Martin, you got my mother and word, my n-go do what you gotta do. When you come back, I'm in your movie. Don't trip. I don't need to see the script or nothing. You know, we get in that office and this fool pull out Big Mama's house too. I almost died. And I got to read this script from all these good white people where this one who wants me to get an address with him. And I'm literally saying,
Starting point is 05:10:16 Why is he in a dress again? You already played the old lady as FBI agent. We can play anything now. We can be playing a dog catcher this time. Why do we need to be in a dress? And I get so mad, I say, you don't want me. You want Brandon T. Jackson. And that's who they went and got.
Starting point is 05:10:34 Twice I said that they weren't got them. Just like I'm telling you, I had the other dudes work. I had all of it. All I did was say, I want to punch it up, so it's not offensive to real. And that's how I got in this position. I mean, I'm a conspiracy theorist to a degree. Like, when I connect dots that maybe shouldn't be connected, I don't know. But certain dots, like when I see that they put every black man in the movie's in a dress at some point in their career,
Starting point is 05:11:04 I'll be connecting down and like, why all these brothers got to wear a dress? That's happened to me. I'm doing a movie with Martin. Yeah. The movie's going good. So I walk in a trailer I'm like man This must be the wrong trailer
Starting point is 05:11:16 Because there's a dress in here They come in It's the writer comes in I think he's the writer He's like Dave, listen You got this hilarious You're gonna be honest with you All these conspiracy theories
Starting point is 05:11:34 Sounded a lot wilder before the ditty case Because if you had told me like the ditty shit I would be like, nah you're lying, nigga Like it's just no way that type of shit would ever be happening No way After the ditty shit I'm like Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 05:11:53 The same where Martin's sneaking out of jail, so he disguises you as a prostitute. And he put this dress on, and how? What, this prostitute? No, I'm not doing that. I don't feel comfortable with it. That should have been in a discussion. You don't feel comfortable with it. I mean, it's a hilarious bit. All the greats have done it. So, well, if all the grates have done it is kind of hacky, right? You're right. So why don't we just not do it? Because I don't feel comfortable wearing a dress.
Starting point is 05:12:21 Oh, come on, Dave. Listen, we got it all set up. We're supposed to shoot. Every minute you waste costs this much money. You know, the pressure comes in. He said, now I'm not wearing no dress, man. I'm funnier than a dress. Just give me something funny to say,
Starting point is 05:12:33 I don't even wear no dress to be funny. And what am I, Milton Burrow? You know, we're going like this. And then finally he's like, ah. And he leaves, and then, like, the director comes, Dave, it really would be great if you wear the dress. What is this? Brokeback mountain in here?
Starting point is 05:12:51 I wear the dress. I don't want to wear the dress. I want to wear this dress. You know what I mean? This is... Oh, gosh, this guy's so difficult. They leave. Now the producers comes, come on, David, would be so great. I mean, and then I started... What did Maraari carry you? She was taking off her clothes? Do you remember back in 2001? Yes. When she put on tight gold shorts and Pretty good chemistry going on in that video.
Starting point is 05:13:41 Got J-Rul. You got J-Lo and that was, I'm Real, the remix. Love a bud. Come on and love me. What hell's that? Give me more. Um, what? Mariah Carey. You got to be kidding.
Starting point is 05:13:58 You got to be kidding. An ice cream truck. Commercial. I can't. Oh. Man, that thing was really, he was really surprised. Get the talk. Hi Carson.
Starting point is 05:14:27 What are you doing here? Hi. How are you? I just thought it's surprising. What's hilarious? Holy crap. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What are you doing?
Starting point is 05:14:40 I got a present for you. Okay. Wait, where am I supposed to stand for this? I don't know. What are you doing here? Is the question? I'm here, can you hold this? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 05:14:47 I brought your present. It's this shirt. Yes, of course it does. What are you doing? Oh my God. What are you doing? Mariah Carey is stripping on TRL right now. Is it my birthday?
Starting point is 05:15:04 I didn't know about it? Wow. You like this. Holy. In hindsight, this shit tame. Maybe that was like provocative back in the day. What? This shit tame.
Starting point is 05:15:16 The mackerel. You like this. Hey, can we get the AC cranked down? The AC, crank it down, get nice to pull. Wow. You like this? What are you doing? What did you bring?
Starting point is 05:15:25 I'm trying to, you're my therapy session right now, Carson. You see, every now and then. Somebody needs a little therapy. Yes, I understand. And today is that moment for me. What's wrong? You weren't... Everything's played.
Starting point is 05:15:37 Aren't you busy? You just came by TRL to hang out? I did not know about this. We're just here. What is this? You brought? Is this ice cream? Is this an ice cream truck?
Starting point is 05:15:45 See, they had decorated this. Wait, try to avoid shots because these shorts are really short. Yeah, just don't move. Talk about the ice cream. But we got to discuss this. Okay. Things are good from here. I won't move.
Starting point is 05:15:55 But they, see, these ain't my... These are just some folks on the nice street. Well, we like this. Right. Here he's lost her mind. I don't know. exactly what's going on here. I was going commercial break. Wait, go out of the other video and I hear a singing.
Starting point is 05:16:07 You brought ice cream. Look at the ice cream truck. I bought everybody presents. All right here. I gotta go to break. They're killing me. I'm like, I didn't know about this. We'll be right back with Mariah Carey on TRL. Unexpectedly passing out ice cream. And more jingles, more videos. More Mariah. Yes. I don't know. Most bizarre TRL I've ever hosted. Show 700 and something.
Starting point is 05:16:49 going smoothly, midway through the show, and then Mariah Carey walks in, takes off her shirt, and delivers ice cream to our audience. A little unannounced visit. But believe me, we're not arguing. I'm just saying to Mariah before, I was like, what are you doing? Like, you're a huge superstar. You just walked in our little show and gave ice cream to kids and they all love you. You know what?
Starting point is 05:17:11 Ice cream is important. You know what I'm saying? Yes, it's the simple things in life. You a lover boy. But everything for my mom, is that in this segment? I sure. better be watching this is gonna be mad at me we're not going by any particular segment at this point i don't think oh yeah we're winging it here yeah yeah in more ways than one i hope my mom's watching
Starting point is 05:17:27 who wants his shirt anybody? easy easy this is my mom's maybe that was the bit she does seem a little bit oh hmm well it is going to be a very long week out about 15 hours earlier and miles away and miles away in hollywood yeah we're trying to like retrace his steps i guess on where exactly he He became unclothed and on Venture Boulevard. Why he became unclothed? Yeah, and so in the video at this hotel down in like Fairfast. If you've heard of the Grove, which is famous part of LA, that's right around where it was.
Starting point is 05:18:26 For sure, yeah. So like about seven miles away from the 4 a.m. video that he was seen. But like, you gotta go through a canyon. It takes a hike. So something happened for him to get over there. But this video at this hotel, it's called the Short Stories Hotel. And he was all by himself when he walks into this place. told he wasn't a guest at the hotel.
Starting point is 05:18:47 He just walked in, grabbed some water. You can see in one clip he's, like, fanning himself, so he was clearly overheated. I will say on Wednesday here in L.A. It was really hot. Very hot. Yeah. For sure, but, I mean, I wouldn't take off my shirt in a public space. I don't know.
Starting point is 05:19:02 Little Nause is a little different. It was super. It was super odd. That wouldn't have been cause for alarm. No, wouldn't have been, that by itself would not be. And he's, you know, when he sits down in the courtyard there and then suddenly decides to take off his shirt, Even that, you go, right, okay, it was hot.
Starting point is 05:19:18 I guess what did seem a little odd to me, or to the average person, is that once he left the hotel and walks out onto the street, onto Fairfax, still left his shirt off. Right. So it leaves us to wonder where is the shirt. You don't see that normally.
Starting point is 05:19:34 Now, he's still on his pants on. Well, right. So now we just have to trace on when that one. I know exactly what you're going to say. Okay. He was not in that neighborhood yet. But even that neighborhood, in my neighborhood, you know, further west, people do this all the time. I mean, it's not unusual.
Starting point is 05:19:54 Yeah, nah, it's some Hollywood shit, and I think it's a bad batch of drugs. I think it's a bad batch of drugs. Obviously, drugs change over time, and I think we've seen this behavior over time. So I'm really wondering, like, is it a particular drug? I know it's probably easy to say it's a ritual. like yo these guys are you know kind of selling a booty or selling a soul to try to fit in this entertainment industry
Starting point is 05:20:23 but I think it's drugs man I'm gonna be honest with you I've seen people who don't really even consume drugs get into Hollywood and I'm saying Hollywood facetiously when I really mean the industry and I'm saying that even though that kind of has that's like a colloquial meaning of just make it once you're around other people and the entities and systems of other people that make it,
Starting point is 05:20:49 people consume drugs. And I've seen people who don't do drugs start doing drugs. So, I mean, I think it's kind of natural and normal that some people fall victim to the drugs. I'm just wondering, he must have been drugged out right before. Like, how is he alone? I don't know. I don't know. Anyway.
Starting point is 05:21:10 Anyway. All right. chat i think i'm going to have to run in a second and i'm going to cap with y'all um let me see oh i'll kind of go over this real quick they have the 20 best rappers in their 20s i think little baby's 30 now so like he's not on this list i think he would be number one if he was on this list however uh nba young boy a 25 year old rapper is the number one rapper in their 20s currently and this is for albums um consumption based on this year, so year to date.
Starting point is 05:21:46 So eight months and 14 days of tracking. I know right now is the 23rd, but this was through the 14th. Young boy's number one. He did drop two projects, but still, you know, again, I really think his catalog is so immense. That's why he does really good. What Young Boy does with streaming and his strategy works with streaming, the more products you put out in the streaming era,
Starting point is 05:22:06 you actually do good when you have a fan base. Cardi did drop IAM music this year. He's number two, Rod Wave, who, you know, you guys, I know I'm a big supporter of his and I fuck with his music heavy. He's number three, big X a plug. I'm actually surprised. He's 27, but this is like his first year. He's kind of like a rookie in the game, right?
Starting point is 05:22:23 Or like, let's say rookie sophomore, pretty much his first two, three years in the game. Kodak, despite, you know, whatever you want to say about him, he's number five this year. And again, most of these people are selling catalogs. So their last couple albums or their last album is just racking them numbers. Doja Cat, who I thought Doja Cat would probably be number one. I thought Doge cat did way more numbers than this, but Doge's number is 29. I thought she was 30, actually, in terms of her age, but she sold 718K. We got a little tech.
Starting point is 05:22:52 I was surprised that Lotech was only 22. I actually hit his people today. I'm like, tech is only 22? Like, I feel like I've been covering this kid for like five, six, seven years, which means I must have been covering him when he was like 15 or 16, right? Doichi. She is number eight, and she's 27. You know, obviously she gets a lot of criticism, but she's, she doesn't. She's making some progress in the game.
Starting point is 05:23:15 Kiglock. I didn't think Kiglock was going to be here. No one, Keglock's 28, but he's number nine. And I think sometimes we forget because I kind of still look at him as Dolf's cousin. But I'm forgetting that he's really putting up numbers and big numbers. Ken Carson number 10, which I thought Ken Carson would have probably been up a little bit higher, but I could understand why he's where he is because he hasn't dropped that much material yet. over time and you know he's still got five years in his 30s he'll probably be in that top five
Starting point is 05:23:46 area um the people who are going to get out of that top five or get out of this list next year cardy's going to be 30 doja cat's going to be 30 okay um now we get to 11 lucky lucky's been pretty consistent uh i could see that a boogie a boogie i want you to drop more music i'm kind upset a boogie i got to hit his people man i feel like they're not putting i feel like they're gotten a little bit comfortable, they're not putting pedal to the metal in trying to keep the pressure on. Not too sure why, but I like Buggie's music. I wish he would put out more music and was more president music.
Starting point is 05:24:19 Boss Man Delo, he's 26. I thought he would probably be up with your ear a little bit more too, but I guess it's because he's a new rapper and he probably doesn't have that much catalog that would just be readily available to be consumed to make him higher. Yeat is actually on this list. actually I thought Ye was going to be a little bit higher When it comes to these people on this list
Starting point is 05:24:41 I look at Ye as a top 10 Definitely a top 10 rapper out of You know People in their 20s But Ye's doing this thing We got Glorilla Glorilla been on fire One of the hottest rappers
Starting point is 05:24:51 You know And again I've You know A lot of people say I have an ego Or I want to be right Of course I do But I've admitted when I'm wrong And I like when artists
Starting point is 05:24:59 Prove me wrong Glorilla is one of those artists That always prove me wrong Polo G I'm upset at him Just like I'm upset at Mae Boogie I feel like both of them should put out more music. I don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Starting point is 05:25:09 Yeah, y'all got something else going on or something like that? They should be putting out more music, and I feel like the more absent they are, they're taken for granted how much and how quickly fans will move the fuck on. Trippy Red. He is, damn, Trippie's still only 26.
Starting point is 05:25:25 That's kind of crazy. You know why it's crazy? Because I remember covering, Trippi and 6-9, I come from the same era, 2016, 2017. And damn, that's literally 8,000. years ago that means we were covering this guy when he was like 15 16 that's crazy uh he's only 26 now which is pretty dope dope of him um trippy got a show i think trippy has a unique opportunity but
Starting point is 05:25:49 there's some pressure on him he got to show that the second half of his 20s which is him going up to 30 he's going to be a still major play in the game rather than a guy who people are going to associate with the 2017 error right and i'll lead chappa and a lead chape and i've been many time mentally i've never said it really publicly that i've never said it really publicly that I've kind of written him off. I'm like, ah, I think he might have fizzle out. He's a hard worker, definitely really smart in terms of figuring out what works. Even sometimes when we don't like it because that I'm a bad bitch shit.
Starting point is 05:26:20 He was pretty much doing the little Nausex. He was on some sassy shit. I didn't really like it, but it worked. He got a hit song out of it. And he always comes with a song from time to time. And of course, the chopper flows work. Jack Harlow, I think Jack Harlow should be way higher on this list. Like, you know, when I was thinking of it,
Starting point is 05:26:36 about the rappers that would be the new new school I said Jack Harlow would be one I said that Central C would be one again we're not talking about the little babies and I know somebody I might be like what about like you know Cardi like Cardi been in the game for a long time I had Jack Harlow Central C
Starting point is 05:26:56 there's a time that I'm Corday was in it but I don't know exactly what happened with him and G Herbo I think G Herbo is a surprise entry but you got to give a lot of credit to G Herbo. G Herbo is not really the most commercially viable artist, but you could tell he's consistently stayed on the pulse of music to make sure he got one of them or whatever,
Starting point is 05:27:18 and his fan base has been kind of following him. He's in there. If you think about it, I think the city that got most people might be Chicago, right? Uh, maybe not. Oh, yeah, it might be. If we're thinking about from locations, Polo Gilles, Chicago.
Starting point is 05:27:36 Chicago, G-Herbo Chicago. Who else? Where's Lucky from? This is Memphis, this is New York. Where's Doji from? I don't know nothing about Doge. I know about Doge. I know she from L.A. This is Florida.
Starting point is 05:27:53 This is Texas. This is Florida. This is, I guess, New York, but I guess we're calling it Atlanta now. Yo, is New York going to take credit for Cardi or we're going to just trade him to Atlanta? Because when he came out with Magnolia, like clearly was like a New York bot
Starting point is 05:28:09 But I believe he's from New York originally But like he's pretty Atlanta now Right Hmm Kiglock Memphis Where's Ken Carson from? You guys let me know Boogies from New York
Starting point is 05:28:21 Where's Boston Dilo from? It's like St. Louisism? We got Yeet Where's Yeet from? I don't know where Yeats from? Laurel is from Memphis, right? So this is Memphis. Chicago.
Starting point is 05:28:34 Trippy is from Ohio. Italy. Chapa is from, I forgot where, Jack Harlow's from Louisville, Kentucky. Hmm. But it's kind of interesting. The King remains, and he still has five more years in his 20s,
Starting point is 05:28:52 and probably a dozen more kids to add to his roster, not roster, but like, you know, to his home of children. Young boys still got five more years. Cardi's out of there. Rodway, he still got five more years. four more years for he's 30. The X-A-plus got three years. We just got the game.
Starting point is 05:29:11 Kodak, I feel like he's been out of jail a lot. He feels like he's 30, but he's only 28. Doja, I can see her being 29. Tech, he's really young. Deutsche, you know, she kind of just got in the game, but she has three more years left. Keglock, still in his 20s. Ken Carson still got five years. I think Ken Carson is going to help shape all this.
Starting point is 05:29:30 Lucky, kind of, you know, popped off a little bit later, but he's 29. Boogie's 29. Boss Man Dillo, 26. He got four more. years. Yeat has five more years before he's turned 30. I think he's going to do some good shit. Glorilla I think the world is in Gloria's hand
Starting point is 05:29:45 when it comes to female rap. Just ultimate potential. She knows how to make music. She knows how to make music. I'll give her that. Polo G. still got four years. Yeah, Polo G, you got to get back on the fucking grind, bro. Like, what's up with you? Trippie Red. He got some figuring out to do if you
Starting point is 05:30:01 ask me. Enile Chapa. And Elie Chapa is only 22? No way. That's impossible. ain't no way no fucking way he's only 22 I feel like I've been known hearing about this thing
Starting point is 05:30:17 for five years or more what the hell and then we get um jack harlowe 27 and then jeerbo he's about to get out of his uh 20s he's 29
Starting point is 05:30:29 man damn damn damn yeah he's 20 yadi's not 28 yadi's 20 maybe I'm just old bro I'm thinking most of these guys are close to their age wait yadi's 28 and he's
Starting point is 05:30:41 not on his list? Wait, how's Yaddy not on his list? Why else Yaddy not on his list? That's kind of odd. Huh. I would think Yadde would at least be like top ten or so. Hmm. All right, man. Chat.
Starting point is 05:31:04 Chat. Let me go read some donations real quick. I appreciate you guys for tuning in. It's been a hell of a stream. Hell of a stream indeed. I feel like somebody in the Rock Nation Meg the Stalian Camp is see them today like fuck we did all this to get act and so chat be prepared there's probably going to be a lot of you know recourse to come after this they're not happy they didn't get what
Starting point is 05:31:35 they wanted they want me to just be on the record and just like making meg look good i guess so this is probably not a good not even probably it's not a good look for them so we're going to see what happens somebody said yadi don't have a real hit records what are you talking about yadi does JFK the guy, thinking for the tenant, says, Ack got his opposite jersey on. Now, I'm trying to get cool with Shaq, man. I'm trying to get cool with him. Jahi Johnson, thinking for the 20, he says,
Starting point is 05:32:01 yo, that chick's a liar, and I don't believe lies. She's a liar then. She's a liar. Now she's going to be a liar tomorrow. He's a liar. He's going to be a liar. That's the big act. What's up with you, my brother?
Starting point is 05:32:10 I hope you guys have been checking out, my man, What's the Dirt? He's been doing his thing. He's a pretty good guy, and he makes really good content. It's a bro-made content out of it. We have to do something, right? Dominic Lawrence says, join at the bottom, right?
Starting point is 05:32:21 Type sexy, Axe sign her. Joanna. Dee says, I'm late. Why were they questioned AC anyways? Well, I guess they felt I had information about my communications with Milagro that
Starting point is 05:32:35 would help them prove that Milagro was being paid to the fame Megastalian. And also that maybe that's Tori's behavior as well, but I really think that they just wanted to ask me questions and this was a way they could try to get me in there i don't think they really this case that they have at least as he presented got done to do with me it's the same thing with um
Starting point is 05:32:59 like aiden ross i think i just want to be able to ask adrian ross some questions said a full plate of oxa took me out he said but we got to admit it was ghetto hey listen i i showed up like it was a cookout mike sam think of the 20 says ac i'm donating 20 tours a war chest just in case we need a bryan steel to stand on the rock oh thank you so much brother he said ain't nothing big in the chat chat again you know you know you don't want I'm also very honest and open with y'all. It is going to be a time that we're going to be under attack. You know, again, obviously I'm not asking for that.
Starting point is 05:33:27 By the way, when I looked at the thing, they had an exhibit that said, AC welcomes lawsuits. So I'm like, I can't tell if they're like, they're like, this is a preemptive thing. Like, oh, we fin to sue them next. I think it's a garbage way of trying to bully, you know, media anyway. But still, you know, I can't control that or not. I'm not going to sit here and be like, please do it or whatever. But, you know, shit.
Starting point is 05:33:48 we should start taking stock and get a war chest because these people, they're bad actors. You know, you guys know, I haven't been talking about Meg every day. I've said my opinion about her. My opinion is my opinion. It's not something that's necessarily paid for. That's just what I've came to based on things that I feel I know and I've seen. And they feel like if they can't take my opinion or change my opinion, and I think that's what it was.
Starting point is 05:34:15 We're going to try to change your opinion. Now they have realized you failed in changing my opinion, and I'm kind of embarrassing you a little bit because I've shown it publicly and people are taken away with their own conclusions that, oh, you're trying to change his opinion. So they look even worse. When they can't change your opinion, that's usually the last step before them saying, okay, we got to take you out. And, you know, obviously I've said many times, I really don't want to have problems with these people, but these people are not the people who are trying to have civil conversations. If you don't say what they want you to say, they will do and say anything and go to very extreme means. I told you guys.
Starting point is 05:34:52 Like, this stuff wasn't that, you know, abnormal to me. I got sent stuff to promote the clips. The clips assigned to Rock Nation. I got sent stuff to promote them. I posted it because it was newsworthy. I don't even know if we even got paid by Rock Nation for that. Because I even think about, oh, this is a Rock Nation product. but the people work with Rock Nation.
Starting point is 05:35:16 We posted it. They got mad at me because I said something about the Nicky Bin-Ox thing, and they filed a takedown notice while they sent the shit to me to promote. I'm promote your artist. So you could tell Rock Nation wants to control especially people like me. They don't want me to have a difference of an opinion. They want to say, you're going to tell, you're going to say what the fuck we want you to say, or we're going to get you.
Starting point is 05:35:42 And I think that's ultimately. very sad. Okay. Let me see. Oh, I was reading doing that shit. Somebody said, if Drake don't rap about this on Iceman, he's a waste man. You're saying that him rapping about the Rock Nation stuff? I can't speak for him, but I think he's well aware of some of their tactics. Dallas Adventure says she wasn't expecting you to articulate yourself well. I think that, but I think
Starting point is 05:36:08 she didn't expect for me to be able to give any challenge backs and was able to to just kind of agree with her since she seemed knowledgeable. There's multiple times she kept saying, well, you know, I'm the lawyer. No, I've done this. And I'm like, okay. So it's Kumazi, thing for the five, says, yo, act. Shout to you for bullying the same, bro.
Starting point is 05:36:28 Fact efficient says, L. Lawyer, big act all the way. Bell to ass for seven hours. I know y'all going to get mad of me today because we're short of six hours. And I did sit with them for seven hours. So I sat with them for a longer time yesterday that I'm sitting with you guys for today. So I apologize. Um, fact of fiction also said, act, after this, man, you're a king of belt ass. Simple.
Starting point is 05:36:49 Greg Richards, thank you for becoming a member for eight months. And by the way, please, you guys, become a member, lock in with us. I don't know with the next 12 months hold. I really don't. Like, I'm seeing things that look unfamiliar. They're operating in the shadows, but it's clear. Like, you know, everyone would be like, bro, you're just calling up Rock Nation's name. No, I just literally shows you the screenshot.
Starting point is 05:37:11 The lawyers that's questioning me say, go to. tell this to DES like come on bro so again if you are a supporter of mine and independent media please lock in with us and it doesn't mean pay anything listen make sure you're following on multiple platforms make sure your support with you know your attention is definitely here because that's you know i'm pretty sure at some point they're going to go at youtube they've gone at meta a couple times they're going to go it everywhere so again we need to be connected in one way shape or form right Gregory Richards, thank you for the member, the eight months. He says, your act, when is the, when is Colorado going to get a shout out?
Starting point is 05:37:50 I shout out Denver all the time. He said, I've been on your platform since I got out of prison. Shout to you, brother. Speaker, I think of it too. He says, act going to pays legal fees with this content. Shit, I hope there's no legal fees, but you never know. You get me, like, again, this idea, and I know some people, like, your act, you know, and obviously, if there are certain things that require a lawyer or just can't be public,
Starting point is 05:38:11 I'm not trying to throw everything up, but. I do want to add some transparency up in this. And my transparency, I'm okay with y'all saying, act, I hate how you answered that question. Act, you said too much. Act, why the fuck did you say this? I'm not hiding anything. My dealings with the music business, these artists,
Starting point is 05:38:33 I'm not really hiding and concealing anything. So I don't have a problem with the people seeing what I'm doing or hearing about it in a deposition and making up their opinion. Their opinion could might be, might be, act, you're a piece of shit. I don't fuck with you anymore.
Starting point is 05:38:49 And that's okay. But the ones that hate the transparency, the ones that, oh, why did you let everybody know this? Wait, are we doing this in secret? This is how you get the ditty type of situations. And I'm not trying to throw ditty under the bus, but these particular situations where, where, oh, how was this allowed to happen for years?
Starting point is 05:39:13 Well, nobody wanted to speak about it. There was no one transparent. You know, I'm just not the guy. If you want to keep a big secret about the industry, don't call that. Don't call that, all right. Kumasi says, you're alive and twirking, laugh my ass off. Rossville said, act. All I could be thinking about during this is like, damn, his food is getting cold.
Starting point is 05:39:34 I kind of finished the food a little bit at first. East Oakland, KB says, man, this nigga, act was cooking. Panday. Thank you for not only membership, but the donation. It says, man, this is great bonding, man. And it says, support the bondant, hit that like button, people. And FN's thinking for the dollar, Easy TV, thank you for the 10th. It says, bondant, bondant, definitely got to get whack on this.
Starting point is 05:39:58 He says, yo, they trying to get you for defamation. Sent this to his lawyer, sent this to lawyer. Yeah, obviously, and here's the thing. I understand what defamation is. Defamation requires me to make a statement that is to impugn somebody's integrity or someone's reputation, and I'm doing it on a malicious level, knowing that the things that I'm saying is meant to hurt rather than it being the truth or a mistruth. I've given my opinion. My pain about not only the trial, my opinion about Meg, it's not rooted to try to hurt her.
Starting point is 05:40:37 Y'all could love her if y'all want. I don't have a problem with her. I just don't believe her. You know? It's kind of sad that Rock Nation, in my opinion, they're now using lawyers to try to sway people's opinion. That's a desperate sign. Oh, good.
Starting point is 05:40:56 Somebody said, yep, you should have brought up the DNA evidence. And I did. And by the way, they brought my DNA tweet in. You know, I told you they stopped the whole thing. They were like, oh, we got to ask the court if we could figure out if, you know, you have to tell us who told you and I was like listen I wouldn't tell you but honestly you know what matter of fact I'll tell you now you know I don't recall okay someone said T-Rill fired smack does T-Rill have a job himself Jesus okay mr. no matter what thing's
Starting point is 05:41:28 five he said what's up with that lady in the corner um I'm not too sure who you're talking about but the black lady uh she was the exhibit woman The one that joined, and she was in the corner, she was the, she works with Team Rock. So I'm going to assume she's a Rock Nation liaison. She is a counsel on Meg the Stallion's case, but she also has done many Rock Nation-affiliated events that would lead me to believe that she is a Rock Nation lawyer as well. the court reporter was one typing and the other one was the I guess she's the lead attorney on the particular case
Starting point is 05:42:16 there was two men or three men that were in the chat and I guess they were all watching this but they weren't on camera or didn't speak okay okay speaker says Tori's dropping Alana's interlude next week Alana was kind of fired man she got to hit me Raw rap now says, yo,
Starting point is 05:42:37 Ack, you to go, big dog. Listen, man, I just try to be transparent. I know sometimes I've, you know, I try to show you the good, bad, and ugly. When I was just like you guys, I just wanted to know what the hell was going on. Just tell me what's going on. And be open and honest with the information,
Starting point is 05:42:52 and shoot, maybe even if you're open and honest, I'll still say, I don't believe it. But I try to show y'all everything. You know, I could have easily, and here's the thing with the people that don't like me, right? I could have easily act. Number one, I could have tried to, if I wanted to, like, make it real hard for them to serve me with a subpoena. Or kind of not done it at all.
Starting point is 05:43:13 I'm not hiding anything. I'm not hiding anything. I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't. Tori never paid me to talk bad about Meg. And all my opinions about Meg, I feel are fair and are rooted in my belief and have no malicious intent. So from that perspective, I haven't done anything. Now, we have to figure out why Meg the Stallion hasn't spoken.
Starting point is 05:43:41 I get it. You can't speak on a case. But now we're kind of like I'm making this assertion. It feels like you're trying to bully people. It feels like you're utilizing the legal system to try to be a victim. That seems kind of nasty to me. We would love to see that transparency on that side. will Desiree Perez
Starting point is 05:44:02 You know, she's responded to certain stuff Will she respond why her name is being brought up By Quinn Emanuel's lawyer saying Go tell her this during a deposition She probably won't And nobody's gonna ask for answers So you know, it is what it is Dylan, thank you for the tennis
Starting point is 05:44:19 Has Act been a support since 2020 man 22. He's gone through some hard times But our presentation for a project That I want to do for you Where can I send it That you can look off stream Since academics music at Gmail My brother
Starting point is 05:44:30 um ice lagoon says if kenny don't have any interviews within the culture drake doesn't have to drink has done more for the culture than he gets credit for uh yeah you're right but but i i hold both them accountable i hold both them accountable um 315 cheetos says yo adam going to interview drake next on butt talk what sam glover says give me a second i think my mama check

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