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Anyway, he said, forget the game.
NBA's rigged.
You ain't got the money on it?
It's all good.
What's up with y'all, man?
What's up with y'all?
What's up with y'all?
What's good?
What's good?
What's good?
What's good?
We have a lot of topics to get to.
We got a few legal ones.
We're going to start off with off top.
Are they trying to bury my man Smirkio?
Will TayK actually do the race.
He's locked up.
long sentence, but we're finally hearing some good news.
What's the deal with him?
We got, of course, stuff still going on with sauce waka.
We have Lotto who dropped her album.
The numbers are in.
A lot to talk about.
Big Ac is here in the building.
Oh, man, I miss y'all.
Hey, everybody on the Academy.
Yeah, come on in.
Come on in.
Come on.
Somebody said, live during the finals, man.
You know me.
I'm going to go live whenever.
When I look at that viewer account,
fuck the viewer account.
I just want to know I got a couple real niggas in there, real chat niggas in there.
People know.
I've streamed at 5 a.m.
I just wanted to know that I had at least, you know, I really think I got 300 supporters, only 300.
Now, you might be watching me, I entertain you, I piss you off sometimes, you feel like you fam, but you might not be in the 300.
You might be 300 to 1.
It's okay.
It's okay.
But there's 300 niggins in here that if I was going to war, I don't need the 10,000 that we're
usually have. I don't need the 15,000 we usually have. Give me them 300. We're going to be good. That's
always been my motto. Still my motto till today. Okay. All right, we'll get into some stuff. I know the
game is going on. I'm going to try to let y'all out early. You know, I've been trying to do this new
strategy. I want to hear you guys, like, a pain on it. It's kind of fractured streaming. So, like,
I understand that for me to stream for six hours and y'all have to sit here for the whole six
hours. I know y'all fuck with the movement. And, you know, you definitely will,
We'll watch the whole stream or whatever.
But I wonder if, like, if I do three or four hours in the morning,
come back and then do it three or four hours at night,
you know what I mean?
A little bit shorter streams, but maybe multiple times in the day.
You get what I'm saying?
We could also, you know, get to some stuff maybe a little bit earlier
and also, you know, we get a chance to kind of come back later on.
We'll try some new methods.
It's all good, man.
It's all good.
Anyway, lots to talk about.
A lot to talk about.
A lot to talk about.
Are we still talking about the Jay-Z thing?
I kind of think it's like, you know, flailing out.
You know, I wish it lasted longer because, you know, obviously my job is to talk about shit,
but I don't know if we could milk any more juice, pause out of that.
We'll try.
We'll see what's going on with that.
We got Adam 22.
Was that right?
And by the reason, this was a kick-only stream that I did.
I did at 5 a.m. I broke it all down.
I said I knew that whole Lenn of the plug, Adam thing, is fake.
and I said, for all these journalists that exist,
they don't put into work that I do.
This is why when I pop my shit,
I pop my shit like unanimously.
Why?
Because I've seen it from the gate.
This shit's fake.
I pulled all the documents.
You get what I'm saying?
I didn't rely on TMZ.
TMZ should have realized it was fake.
But for whatever reason, TMZ was, you know,
they're probably like,
they just wanted a headline for that day.
Anyway, shout to TMZ.
I like them.
Shout to Harvey.
Okay.
Chat.
we got some legal stuff to talk about off rip what's going to happen with dirk have y'all giving up hope on take k i'm
hearing there's some good news chat good news coming for take k uh they're basically saying that
there is a possibility in a path home for take k if you don't know uh the young texan rapper
who has been incarcerated for some years now apparently there's been some new developments that
actually might spring him free. Now, for some of you guys, he may have been an afterthought,
but for his family and friends, they've been fighting hard for his freedom. If you don't know,
he was convicted of a few crimes. And, you know, he's always maintained not only his innocence,
but he actually said that, you said, listen, I was like a, you know, you can take this either way,
but he was like, yo, I was a young kid. I obviously didn't make the best decisions,
but also I may have gotten railroaded, okay? We have seen a few,
things that seem promising for him.
And I think one could only hope or expect that there's going to be much more.
There was a clip that came out.
We posted it.
It was a clip of Take Kay's family.
They shared a phone call with his attorney, and not going to lie, this seemed a little bit
promising for the TayK fans.
So shout to my people from Texas.
Shout to my TK fans.
If you're still, you know what I mean, hanging in there, this was the update from the family.
with the call with the attorney.
Sorry.
So everything's set and final
and in the next few weeks
I'll keep you posted with the details.
Okay, I appreciate it.
It's a pleasure.
Congratulations again.
I'll speak with you soon.
Thank you.
I have a good one.
What are you talking about?
Your son coming home.
Girl.
Y'all was to fucking
son coming home.
Well, he's just easier.
So everything's set and final
and in the next few weeks
I'll keep you posted with the details.
Okay, I appreciate it.
It's a pleasure.
Congratulations again.
I'll speak with you soon.
Congratulations.
Again, you know, we're kind of just going off what's I seen.
I'm also Eli Blasford on Instagram and he said take a case getting released soon coming home.
This is after, you know, I'm wondering like we obviously need some more details on this,
but this this doesn't seem like some erroneous thing.
The family is kind of behind this.
They seem to know something we don't.
So I'm wondering what's happening.
I'm gonna shoot you can see it in my face
y'all know what's going to
man
I told y'all my nigga is coming home
my muckoo
my niggia is coming home man free time
I'm gonna shoot you can see in my face
my niggas on the way home
do you hear me I gotta play this again
What you got going
My niggas on the way home
Do you hear me I got to feel easier
So everything's set and final
And in the next few weeks, I'll keep you posted with the details
All right, all right, all right
A lot of updates
We see his sister posts this to the gram
This is sister Kayla
She shared a throwback pitcher with her and Taymore
Tameur obviously is Tay K
And she says, all glory to God
Through every storm he never left our side
The comeback story gonna hit different
free take case is this day they were ripping our family apart i know the future was dark but bright
again thank god hmm okay so there is some stuff that's kind of brewing on the take hey front
i'm gonna keep my eyes uh open you know we've we've checked in from time to time with take hey
and seen what he's going on with you know obviously he got a lengthy sentence but there's a lot of
remedies he's been trying to seek to try to make sure he could possibly get out of jail.
You know, obviously he was convicted as a minor, but he was charged really as an adult for all
these offenses. And, you know, I think as we've watched it as a collective, you know, as
hip-hop fans and, you know, maybe your fans take a, there's something really sad about the whole
situation, especially, you know, while we enjoyed his music, you know, he was a child, right?
So hopefully, you know, hopefully some good news for him, but we'll sit and wait.
We'll sit and wait.
His family, his sister, his mom, close associates, they're saying that they're hearing good news from the lawyer.
And we're going to see what that turns into.
So hopefully we get an update soon.
But I'm hearing also that he has a bunch of unreleased music.
I'm not too sure if he's able to do the Tory lanes and record behind bars.
but, you know, obviously we were bumping some of his music before.
I hear he has still music out there.
So we'll see what happens.
Hopefully the family will kind of give us like an update on him.
And, you know, if you guys haven't forgot about him yet,
hopefully we'll hear something positive soon.
Shots to TK.
Shouts of TK.
You know, shout to him.
All righty then.
Okay.
Oh, look at y'all.
A niggins in here is upset.
They're like, yo, bro, act.
I'm watching the game right now. I'm watching the game.
Oh, it's okay. It's okay. We're going to, you know, rack it up a little bit.
All right. So, so, so, so, so, so, yeah.
Give me one second.
Oh, see, geez, apologies.
Don't tell me somebody important, try to get a hold of me.
Okay. Someone just hit me and said emergency.
Smirkio wants to talk to you.
Somebody legit, but I don't know what that means.
Okay.
We'll talk about smirking a little bit, so just hang out.
Hang tight.
Hang tight, people.
We'll get to it.
I'll tell you what's on our agenda.
What's that biggie song?
It's the agenda.
Something in the blender.
What song is that?
Okay.
So, yes, Tay K might be coming home.
We'll get more details soon.
We got some new music.
We got some updates supposedly coming.
Hopefully the lawyer of the family will pull out a statement
or we'll see some significant court updates that will reflect that he might be released.
Obviously, he's been incarcerated for such a long time at this point.
We would like to see what happens next.
A couple of the things.
We did want to get to what's to deal with this whole Drake and Playbork Cardi thing?
I feel like there's something there.
I like both guys, obviously.
You know, you still, you know, it's still, you know, I'm trying to rep OVO opium.
Can I do that?
Can I do that or not, Chad?
You know what I mean?
We're going to do the update on Chud the Builder.
We wanted to get a little bit into Rick Chow.
The Dirt case, we want to do a full breakdown on it.
And then Lado, we wouldn't want to talk about her.
She dropped her album.
The first week sales are coming back, but also there's some other stuff.
You know, I've seen her getting into a little tiff with not only Cardi B,
but Joe Budden went in terms of her defending her writing ability, okay?
I'm going to start off a little bit unorthodox today because this just came down
and then came to my attention while we started stream.
So I kind of want to get into it immediately.
You know, it's been a very turbulent week or turbulent two weeks or whatever.
I've heard that Charlemagne the God has dropped an episode of his podcast.
It is something, a podcast that I really enjoy.
Shout to Andrew Schultz as well as Charlemagne.
But you guys probably have seen what's been going on, you know, just publicly.
You know
This might be Dirk
My bad
Hold on
Hold on
All right shots to Dutie Lowe
That was Dutty Lowe
He said yo tell you live
I said free Smirk
You know they said
Oh you live
All right you know
We'll do this
You know when you're not live
It's all good
Shout to Smirk
Shout to Dutty Lowe
You know
My prayers go out to
Dirk
The entire OTF family
I think
We're getting down to the finish line, and we're hoping that the things that are being accused of Dirk are fallacies are just not true, right?
And we're hoping that, you know, he could return to society and return to making music, you know, as an innocent man, right?
We'll see.
You know, I'll tap him with, remind me I got to tap him with duty low after street.
Okay.
So let me just kind of do the lead up again.
Yeah, so you guys have probably seen what's going on.
You know, there's not much really to explain,
but Charlemagne responded to a bunch of stuff today,
and I was kind of listened to it halfway before I had to get on stream,
so I'm going to listen to it with y'all.
And I'm going to listen to exactly what he said.
Obviously, if you don't know the story,
Charlemagne reached out to me about like,
it feels like a week now.
And he told me that, hey, listen,
there is these documents or information about people associated with you, about being paid by
politicians and all these other stuff.
And yes, like they have you involved because you're also academics, right?
It mentioned Drake and other people.
And I was a little bit confused what it was about.
There was information that there was people that I associate with, whether it's Grand Wizard
or, you know, other people that, you know, I kind of consider as the team.
that made sense from, and I told you guys this once ago,
that some people that are affiliated with me were getting harassed.
People showed up to their houses,
there was a lot of weird stuff going on.
Now, to be honest, you know,
and we're going into what Sean May said,
but he tried to give me a head,
he said he would give me a heads up.
And, you know, let me tell you this.
If there's anything going to be my downfall chat,
it's going to be my loyalty.
I'm a loyal nigga.
Yeah, I know I'm a loyal nigga.
I don't.
not no snake. I'm not the guy to flip-flop on people. Y'all can see even with the
Drake situation, right? I'm just not like that. The point is this, I take it personal. It doesn't
seem like, because everybody know where I live at. Everybody know what I got going on. Every,
every, I haven't been harassed necessarily. Other than the Megastalian stuff, which I definitely
know is Rock Nation. I haven't really been harassed otherwise about some other shit, whether it's
about steak. I haven't been harassed about none of that or bot like, come on who the fuck is
is going to, like I talk every day online, knowing.
harassed. But my team has been harassed. And as I said, loyalty is a thing that I'm very big on.
So I rock with my niggas. So I don't take it lightly. I don't like the fact that people
are showing up to the houses of the people who work with me. I just don't like it. And whether,
you know, I'm going to be honest with you, my loyalty goes so far. I'd rather they would have
show up to my house. Because I'm a public figure. I kind of own everything. And I got put on
game about, you know, these whatever type of.
inquiry or whatever that, you know,
Charlemagne was privy to.
And of course, I put the team on game like,
yo, this is what I'm hearing is out there.
They kind of heard that there was some stuff out there,
you know, people are taking pitches of them.
Apparently it's not only just them, right?
It also extends to rappers and other stuff like that.
Now, Charlemagne didn't tell me about, like,
Nikki or nothing like that.
What I've heard is that these inquiries have targeted
associates and affiliates
of anybody Drake, anybody Nikki, anybody Aiden Ross, and anybody academics.
Okay?
So, you know, I'm just not the guy who's just going to, like, sit in the background.
I'm like, no, let me just, I'm going to get online and I'm going to blow the lid open.
To be very clear, and I've said this before, my associates and my people,
I go to war for them just like I know they would go to war for me.
Okay?
And what I mean by that is I don't necessarily have an issue with Charlotte,
but here's the thing.
If people are creating documents about people that are close to me that I care about
that is falling in his hands,
I appreciate he gave me the heads up.
But I'm going to be honest, and you'll hear this conversation.
I think he gave me the head's up to say,
act, don't trust the people around you.
Well, here's a news flash.
I trust the niggas around me
more than I trust the rest of the media.
You get what I'm saying?
So, you know, the heads up from Charlemagne
was kind of like, hey, I hear some of these guys
you might know.
Like, you're going to hear him say that
Grand Wizard is fucking cooperating with the faith.
I don't know what.
And it's like, yo, they're blaming it on you and Drake.
And I'm like, blame what?
And here's my point.
First of all, and, you know,
I've said this blankedly a million times.
I told you, you know, listen, whatever y'all see of me, the only time my downfall is going
from somebody in the inner circle.
I've only ever gotten trouble by somebody I trusted that maybe shouldn't have.
So maybe that's what happens.
I don't know.
But I'm always loyal to my people.
And the point is this, but nobody's done anything wrong.
But the point is this, Charlemagne's warning to me felt like it was to make me distrustful
of people around me.
I'm not distrustful of them.
I rock 10 toes with Grant.
You get what I'm saying?
So this was my response.
I basically said,
yo, listen, man,
I don't like the fact that my people are getting harassed.
I'm trying to figure out where the source is
because I feel like this is connected to a bigger thing.
This is a really, people put some money behind this.
Now, Charlemy didn't really tell me where it came from.
He just said he got it somehow.
Then I hear some other guy named Jeremy got it.
Then I hear some other people got it, but it's nobody we're friendly with.
So at a certain point, and of course I told everything to Grand,
at a certain point, I have to just be realistic.
If niggas got the low, I say niggas got the drop on me, they got my low,
and they're comfortable with sending it to Charlemagne,
either Charlemagne is cool with the niggas who really don't like me,
or Charlemagne know the niggas, some ways somehow.
So that's been my thing.
I'm going, like, I had to tell my team to respond however they needed to respond
because I'll need to figure out one reason.
Who is targeting my people?
Who?
Sholomein claims he doesn't know.
Well, it's confusing to me.
How don't you know, but these people are comfortable with sharing the info with you?
Why would they share the info with you?
But you don't know.
It's confused.
Do you get what I'm saying?
if you got the drop on somebody, right?
Like, put it like this.
If y'all want me to get really direct,
I get all the way direct.
No, actually, I'm not just going to get direct.
Because, you know, if anybody has known academics history
when it comes to media, this is why when y'all be saying,
like, I could be beefing with Joe or Charlemagne,
it's like laughable.
Like, it's laughable to me because there's been moments
where niggis saw me as the incumbent,
and Joe and Charlemagne, like, riding high.
And their biggest ops, whether it's a baby,
mama, whether it's an accuser, they came to me with it to say, hey, this is how you become number one.
Cut the head off of, this is facts.
You could ask Joe, you could act Charlamagne.
You know what I did every time?
I went to Joe and went to Charlamagne.
I said, bro, I want nothing with this.
I love you.
Listen, and by the way, for the people, might be like, oh, I'm protecting people.
No, but I don't fight like that.
I don't want to fight with, oh, let me try to get ahead by trying to cut you down at the moment.
that your biggest op want to come through.
Nah, I want to outwork you.
That's what I always wanted to do.
So, ask Joe.
I want to bring up the situation.
I ask Joe, ask Charlemagne.
I'm the first.
They gave me the platter.
Like, yo, this is what to do.
I told both individuals.
I said, not only did I tell them,
I told them exactly where it came from.
Because I'm not in cahoots with no one.
I didn't only give them the info.
I told them exactly where it came from.
Yo, remember this dude?
Okay, he's the one behind it.
Of course.
It's not just the info.
Where is it coming from?
So again, I know this necessarily isn't, like,
I don't even feel like it's at me,
but I'm telling, and I've said this multiple times,
my people who I rock with,
it's like my little crew, I defend them.
I do defend them.
And I'm not saying they're perfect,
but I do defend them.
and I'm not going to bite for some
oh you know
separates yourself
no I'm fuck with these guys
but also
my point is that
the only thing I've taken personal
because I don't think me and Charlemagne have an issue
or whoever
even though I think this might be a bigger rock nation thing
which I think is going to be aimed at me
but like me and Charlamagne don't have an issue
but my thing with Charlamagne is that
Charlemagne if you're saying that my people
are being targeted
from where?
Because I think that warning was like, hey, back up from your people
who are trying to blitz him.
And I'm like, I'm not backing up from him.
Nick, you're going to have to blitz me too.
It's like him hitting me like, yo, act, get out the car.
Just get out of the car.
Yo, act, you want to call with them, niggas?
Word?
You ain't get to 84th.
You ain't get to 84th in Malcolm, Jr. Boulevard here, right?
All right, yo, just get out of the car.
Don't get out the car.
And I think show my, man,
expecting me to be like,
all right,
I'm going to just sneak out the car
and let my guys go get Swiss cheese.
Fuck no.
I'm in this bitch.
So that's me.
I'm going to tell you,
like I'm a loyal niggins.
So me, I'm looking at like,
I'm trying to figure out.
And trust me,
I was sad in this whole week.
I don't like Grand Conna getting that show.
I don't like it.
But niggis is trying to figure out
who's behind this shit.
and Charlemagne got all the info
and he said he don't know where it came from
how are they so comfortable
how is the ops comfortable with giving you the info
if you're not with the ops right
like it's a simple math
how are the like if Jeremy gets the info
that nigga is a gay dweep
I've been on his head we got much more on him
now that's like I've been on his head recently
just tell him better duck
straight up no bonus
But still, we got him on candid camera.
Don't worry about it.
But the point is this.
I'm trying to figure out where this is coming from because even though they're saying, oh, no, it's that these other guys, I'm like, but at the end of the day, these other guys are related to me.
They're related to this person, this person's anyway.
I just never got an answer.
I just never got an answer.
So, like, we're fighting an invisible op.
Like, it's just simple questions I want to ask, like, yo, if somebody has a plan written up, like, yo, I'm going to jump you, I'm going to jump this guy on Tuesday.
And somebody come to you and be like, yo, yo, I ain't going to lie to you, bro.
Tuesday stay in the crib, yo.
Yo, they floating around a plan, somebody going to jump you on Tuesday.
Nick, this thing you're going to ask is, bro, who is doing that?
And if the person who told you that, you know, there's the plan and they're reading it
And they got so much access to it.
They're sending you pictures.
They're like, oh, I don't know where it's from.
You're like, come on, bro.
Just come on.
So really, you know, I want to just clarify.
You know, I'm not into it.
Like, I think I'm the most honest media personality ever.
Like, I'm not perfect, but I usually just tell you out of truth.
And sometimes the truth don't fall in my favor.
And sometimes it does.
Fuck it.
But I'm telling you exactly what it is.
Hey, I had to, I can't tell the people around me how to respond when I'm hearing there is a targeted thing at them and we can't even figure out where it's from.
Now, the easiest thing would be like, oh, act like this is where you be selfish.
You hop out the car.
Let them niggas get Swiss cheese.
I'm here to tell people like, I'm not going to do that.
You get what I'm saying?
So loyalty just always been my type of thing.
So it just is what it is.
Anyway, let me kind of play what I.
So Charlemagne spoke about it today on the brilliant idiotous episode.
And I want to play it.
We'll give a little bit more context.
And then we'll get into, you know, some dirt stuff afterwards.
Is it this?
Is it this?
Here we go.
Thank you.
Okay.
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Like, so many people are also, like, you know, talking about gambling this and third.
Bro, I want to, let me put it on the screen.
What I'm listening to is brilliant idiots.
This is an ad break before they talk about me.
This is an ad break before they talk about me is what's being promoted, gambling.
This is why when Joe Button says something about that, I was just like, bro, y'all promote.
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You literally say it's your favorite episode, part of the show.
Then brilliant idiots, they're literally advertising gambling before they talk about me.
Like, I'm just a little bit confused.
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in a different way, right? And by the way, all online gambling companies have something that's
kind of going on, right? It's heavily contested that prize picks is allowed to do certain things.
Are they just fantasy? Are they actual a sports book? Can they then lean into certain type of
player props? Like, there's been heavy litigation around all of it. But,
we don't expect Joe Button to tell us that.
He just takes whatever money they give him.
They put him in a Super Bowl commercial.
We just, we don't, so it's the same thing with like,
I don't even know they had a gambling ad for I'm brilliant idiots,
but we're listening to one, right?
So when I hear them mention like steak and shit like that,
the only thing I have to think is that they're funded by something that might not like steak,
because obviously steak is really highly successful,
but they have a lot of ops too.
So I can't, you know, I mean, my,
Ops is like Rock Nation.
Rock Nation clearly don't fuck with me.
Okay?
Drake Ops, I won't name it, but
I know Drake Ops.
I know Nikki Ops, and I know Steak Ops,
and I know Aiden Ops.
It's an op that's in the middle
or kind of all of everybody ops?
That's the person that's doing this.
And that's what I'm trying to, you know,
I'm on a campaign to figure out who.
I won't stop.
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I thought you were looking out for him.
See the internet trying to make a war between me and academics.
Did you see that?
I didn't know it was a war between you guys.
There's not.
I thought it was like you were like saying, hey, be careful, look out.
I thought you were looking out for him.
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I gave.
Is that not what he said?
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How many players?
Oh, yeah, you can play.
Play what academics thing.
Shout my man, Charleston.
He gave me a call.
He said, act.
This was going around.
I've seen it.
What?
Where'd it come from?
I don't know.
Oh, okay.
Charlotte, if I wasn't supposed to air you out on that, it's okay.
But listen, I got to get to the bottom of this.
I hear Laurel Rosa got in the background.
What?
What?
Laura Lorosa got?
What?
Then I hear, oh, you got, like, one of the stooges I was on this show,
and then this other guy that don't like you.
And I'm like, what is this going?
on here now life for anything I like to address things head on but with that you know I
don't like doing proxy wars I like to just kick it off I tell all y'all eat a dick straight up
all y'all eat a day you're not only I can eat a day when when there is entities that's plotting
against me don't be the messenger you either win me against me no DJ Callis in around my book
It's fact.
No DJ Cal is around my book.
Get the fuck away.
That is true.
You can stop her here.
Oh, so he's saying,
he's saying you need to pick a side.
Is that?
I don't know.
Being communicated.
The hidden thing, I clarify.
It's not picking aside.
If you're not,
you're not giving me the heads up
if you're not telling me where it's coming from.
If you're just giving me like this warning,
it feels like my convoy with Charlaman came across more like he wanted me to back up from
grand and niggas like that like yo don't fuck with these guys you're gonna even hear him say some
self which i didn't say before where he's basically like yo grand and them niggas is snitching on you
and i'm like snitching on me for what you know but that was the that was the like for me i was just
like i'm not i get like i'm like one of the younger media personalities but i'm not
that green to flip on my squad
without you giving me actual, like, you can't
so we don't know where this came from
and I'm supposed to be like, oh, I can't fuck with Grand no more.
Because he eventually
tells me that supposedly
Grant has been talking to investigators,
right? And
Grand has blamed
everything on me and Drake.
And I was like,
bro, you can't even tell me where this is from.
So, like, there's a point where Shalman
was like, yo, act, be careful, man.
How much do you trust these guys?
and I'm like, dude, I trust them more than whatever you're hearing because you can't even tell me where you're getting it from.
Like, I don't even know what, what are you talking about right now?
So that was just a little odd to me because I'm like, it's like you're trying to have me to flip or to back up off these people who I'm cool with who have, you know, we have built a lot in the last couple years.
But with you giving me these details, me even asking you, yo, where does she come from?
Like, what the fuck is this?
It's like, yo, I don't know.
I can't even talk about it.
I'm like, what are we talking about?
Anyway.
If academics are heads up, because academics has done that for me before.
You know what I'm saying?
Academics has reached out to me before.
Yeah.
They say, hey, I don't know if you see what's happening over here,
but such and such is doing this, such is doing that.
Oh, hey, you know what?
Good looking, right?
So I was returning the favor.
And, you know, usually, man, stuff comes across the desk all the time.
we do media, right? So in media, you get tips, anonymous, tips. I got so many files on so many
different people. I don't know if things are true. I'm just saying that these things come across
the desk, right? Usually, there's a lot of stuff that I ignore. This was when I was like, you know what,
I'm going to, I'm going to reach out on. And I don't know if I reached out through text
before Jeremy Hecht said what he said, are after.
Jeremy Hecht?
Yeah, let's play what Jeremy Hecht said.
Because Jeremy Hector accused academics of taking money from...
Who's Jeremy Hector?
Politicians.
Jeremy, he used to be on this hip-hop D-X show with DJ Head and Elliot Wilson.
Irrelevant.
If you got to explain it like that, he's irrelevant.
Bigger picture.
I think he still works for hip-hop D-Hex.
Now, let's know what Jeremy had.
Academic says that he has $100,000 for me if I can prove that he was being paid by the head of true social.
Jeremy, I got $100,000 for you.
if you provide that.
Let me read some receipts.
November 14th, 2025.
Chris Pavlovsky sent a payment to Livingston Allen for $8,804.
And another one on December 23rd, 2025 for $1,234.
That's almost 10K.
Technically, that's only a tenth of what you would owe me.
I won't put it on screen, but you can go double check the PayPal Act.
Now, I know you want to act all confused and Google it.
Now, I don't know if I, now, I'm going to jump in because,
I listened to this part before and Charlotte skipped over.
First of all, I debunk that.
That was a Rumble payment, not truth social.
Second of all, Charlemagne did hit me up afterwards.
So he hit me up afterwards.
So, and if Charlotte does listen to this, you know, I think I talk very clearly, even when I'm talking to you privately, but I'd say it publicly because I have nothing to hide.
My antennas went up when I said, I said,
said, why is someone having a dossier that might include me?
And I said, I've always told that people could pay for music promotion.
I have a platform.
I've always said that.
This has never been a secret.
Charlemagne legitimately told me, act, this is bigger than just entertainment.
And then he evoked politics.
He says, yo, it's an election year.
It's politics.
They're saying that, you know,
Either you are the people around you
Or taking money for political shit
And I'm like, huh?
And that's where I connected that to Jeremy.
Because Jeremy said I was taking money from politics.
Like, nigga, I know if I took some money from politician.
I would have been said it.
I would have been said I robbed them, niggins.
That's what I do, digger.
Stole that.
So I was caught off guard when Charlemagne said,
No, this is not about money and music.
This is about politics.
Your platform and the people around you are so big
it people are investigating to see if y'all are influencing.
That threw me for the loop.
So that's the part that I'm not too sure if Charlotteman didn't realize.
I was so confused.
I'm like, you're saying we're influencing.
So that's basically the thing.
They don't care if I promote Drake or whoever.
They're saying your platform and the people are,
around you, they're starting to influence elections, and then I hear this maga shit.
And I'm like, huh?
So whoever's like doing this is also having that angle that we're influencing people
and it's an election year, we might flip, maybe flip votes.
So then I start thinking about a bunch of stuff.
Number one, why Charlaman hit me about this?
But I'm like, he does deal with politics a little bit.
But then I hear the Jeremy nigga has the same thing.
And I'm like, this isn't making sense.
I keep asking Charlotte Maine questions.
It was a weekend.
He was like, oh, when I get back, I'll ask Laura LaRosa.
And I'm like, okay, so I'll never hear about this again.
You know what I mean?
And by me, I've never heard about it again.
I've never heard about it again.
You get what I'm saying?
Before this or after, but I do remember when I saw this, I said, oh, shoot, let me hear that.
Because what came across our desk was the same information, but not that.
It just was like this spreadsheet that was like, yo, DJ academics takes money from music people and media people and, you know, political people.
See?
And also.
And that's the confusing part with Charlemagne.
What came across our desk.
My question even to Charlemagne, if you're trying to give me a heads up, how did it come across your desk?
Don't just tell me that somebody is,
yo, I heard somebody trying to kill you.
How did you hear it?
How did this information that you're saying
that you have verified
and you could send me pictures of people at their houses?
How did, like, who sent it to you?
Oh, oh, you only heard about it from Lauren La Rosa?
Who sent it to her?
Where is this info coming from?
Who's angle is this info?
And I'm getting nothing.
So once I'm getting nothing, I'm like, all right, you know, I got to just back up.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, you know, I don't do proxy wars.
Like, so that's what I said.
Like, me and Charlamagne ain't beefing.
Charlemagne didn't say fuck acting, nothing like that.
So I fall back.
But I could no longer tell the people who are getting harassed, which is my team, yo, bro.
Because that's what I do.
Like, you know, if they ever post something about Joe, I say, yo, you know Joe's my man, right?
Joe's my man.
Joe's my guy.
Yo, hey.
Like, a lot of times.
I'll go on academics TV or whatever
and I get the shit up
off about my friends
because they might just be doing journalism
or they're getting info
I'm like no no no it's my guy
get that up off of there
you get me
however
if we get into this this media space
where it's like you know
everybody got like these hidden things
all right
I can't keep doing that
so I'm like all right
let the victor goes to spoils
because I thought I've saved
a lot of people
If they don't feel that way, all right, cool.
Let me show you when I don't tell nobody stop or I don't tell nobody, no.
And that's it.
You know, everybody's playing for themselves.
Again, my whole thing is, I know some people like, why are you mad at Charlotte?
I'm not mad at Charlene because he gave me a heads up.
I'm like, listen, it's clear that somebody on your side is either behind it or got the
info from somebody they're cool with, here's the thing. It's like in war. You just carpet
bomb the whole thing. You figure it out later, man. You carpet bomb the whole, and that's kind of
what's been happening. And I can't even, you know, trust me, I haven't been necessarily
happy about it. I don't like seeing Charlemagne being discussed in non-goat-like manner. I have
a lot of reverence to him and his skill and, you know, what he's done for commentary and hip-hop. But
also
we're in like different times
I don't even know what the fuck to say
these days you get what I'm saying
it's like
Charlemagne might be in cahoots
with niggas that don't
and again
I do take it personal
if it's y'all like oh we're targeting
the people around you not you
niggia that's how it works
niggins like Russia
if you let them surround you
nigga after a while they just get you
so I can't let y'all just go in
and try to dismantle
Grant Wizard, this person.
No, hold up now.
They take money to spread false narratives about folks.
Like, you know, do these smear campaigns and things that nature.
And that wasn't even what I was really calling them to get a heads up on,
because Ack will tell you himself,
I was like, yeah, I take money to, you know, from music people.
Like, that's not a secret.
Facts.
The political stuff he said he didn't know anything about.
Whatever.
The reason I call that.
And AX said, I think, that he asked me who was behind.
behind it and I said I couldn't tell him. That's not true. I said I don't know but I would find out.
But what I did tell him was that these three individuals, Carson McCoy, another guy named Alex Ocher,
and George N-W-N. How you pronounce it, Chris? It's a Vietnamese name. N-G-U-Y-U.
By the way, the second name I've never heard in my life. But what, go ahead.
When is the closest, yeah.
Jordan, that's Grand wasn't chat, nigger.
And he is from...
Now, chat, remember what I told you?
I told you a lot of this stuff recently.
Like, they have declared war on Grand.
From when I went to the Kendrick show, bro,
Kendrick's man's approached me about Drake and Grant.
Like, yo, they have the clear war on Grant.
Yo, I even said...
Remember I said the other day?
And I've seen some people clip it on Twitter.
They were like, yeah, right.
Nobody gives a fuck about grand.
Yeah, why they got like five private investigators outside his house, even though he's an AI?
Like, why?
You know what I mean?
Why are they stalking him?
You know what I mean?
But whatever.
Oh, yeah.
What we were told was the Carson kid in George were getting investigated, got pressed by investigators, and cooperated.
No, not grandee.
And told
No, not
and said that they get
their marching orders
from academics
in Drake.
I don't know if this is true.
I don't know if it's not true.
I'm just...
Grandis?
What?
Is he?
He lives in Australia.
Yo, I sent Act the pictures
they sent us of him
and Act goes,
Who is this?
And I go, they say this
is the George Grand Wizard
Chat nigger dude.
And he was like,
What? I thought. Grand is an AI. He was skinny. And so I guess when he sent
Grand to pictures, you know, Grand confirmed like, yeah, man, I got these pictures sent to me,
you know, a few months ago. So I was just calling act to give him a head.
Now, I will say everything, and I think Charlotte knows that. Everything Charlotte shared with me,
I shared, I'm a loyal nigga, bro. Like, we think I was just going to take this info and just
go to the corner and not tell the guys?
Yo, hey, this is all the info.
What's going on?
I sat with everybody.
And I said, yo, you might need to watch the people around you.
Because sometimes, man.
No, Grandi.
Sometimes you.
He's hilarious, though.
I don't know.
But sometimes you be in business with people and aren't fully aware of all the things that they may be doing.
So is that, so there's a-
Yo, let me tell you this.
And again, you know, they have this document outside somewhere.
so like there's no I don't do the secret shit because if y'all claim you i got the info
it's not secret so let me tell you fully what he said so charlemagne basically tells me
that there's an investigation going on grand wizard and another person who actually he's he's
chat nigger um so two chat niggas have gotten cornered and have flipped and they have
they're they're snitched on me like i'm dirk and they're they're snitched on me and and and and and
And drink, literally, right?
That's the info he told me.
He was kind of telling me this info to say, hey, act, watch out,
because some of these people you have with you, they're snitching.
Number one, I'm telling you, I don't believe it.
Okay, I've talked to these people.
And by the way, I hate the fact that he even put that into the air
because there's nothing to snitch about what all this inquiry shit is,
is a civil case.
There's not criminal shit.
Second of all, I felt like it was a weak attempt to divide and conquer.
I told y'all, I'm the most loyal nigger in media.
If you ever see my downfall, you're going to say damn, AC was a little bit too loyal.
And it's okay.
That's my tragic flaw.
Okay?
I give people too many chances.
It's always been in my life.
What Charlemagne then starts to do in our conversation is to say, act.
He's trying to turn me against Grand Wizard.
Say yo, bro, you sure you?
How much you know him?
And I told him straight up, I said,
Nick, I trust Grand Wizard with everything, nigga.
Straight up, like, what you want me to say?
Like, what do you think I'm like some like weakling?
That's going to be like, man, I don't really know him.
Nigger, I trust that thing with everything.
What are you talking about?
Then, you know, and this is why,
and I'll say this publicly because I would say to Charlene
privately.
I ain't going to allow to you.
I don't think necessarily this was your plan unnecessarily.
But y'all wanted me to turn against my guys.
I'm not doing that.
they told me even they were like oh act i ain't gonna la man these guys they're doing a lot of
crypto shit blah blah blah grand wizard getting paid millions like yo we seen it we've seen the payments
from da da da da like you got paid a couple hundred thousand grand wizard got paid millions i said bro
like first of all i am a pocket watcher but i'm like how i heard that was to say damn
how is grand wizard making more money than me it was a way to turn me against someone who
I associate with and I trust.
You get what I'm saying?
Like,
they're saying,
oh,
we have the documents to say
that Grand Wizard gets millions of dollars
and the money that you've gotten paid out
from certain shit isn't millions of dollars.
And that was supposed to turn me against him.
No.
I told that to Grant two.
I'm sorry.
Like,
you know what I mean?
And I'm just keeping up being.
So I,
So I looked at everything as, and again, I don't think necessarily just Charlemagne.
Like, obviously, I think Grant, and I asked Charlotte May if he wanted to talk to Grant,
because I do think it's a little bit personal at this point, because I think Grant feels
he's getting docs, and then Charleman probably is like, yeah, why are you attacking me?
Well, Grant is probably like, yo, you're trying to get act to believe that I'm a snake,
that I'm a snitch, and that I'm a thief, right?
Also, people are trying to take pictures.
Like, so that's why.
Grand and Charlotteman's whatever.
For me, though, I lay all my cars on the table.
So, yeah, that's what I took away from the conversation.
Charlemagne literally asked me, he says,
act, how much do you trust these guys?
And I was just like, I trust Grant with everything.
Like, Grant is like, Grand Day 1.
You get what I'm saying?
So that's how I took it.
But, so anyway,
You're going to hear him kind of say that he was really trying to give me a drop on that.
And I was just like, this is why it's confusing.
Also, Charlemagne is on this podcast framing this as if it's a federal investigation.
Let's use our brains here.
If the feds or some type of investigative body that is the authorities were investigating people,
why would they give all the info to Charlemagne the God?
And Jeremy Hecht.
So he keeps saying investigation.
That's why when he told me, he's like, yeah.
These guys are snitching.
I'm like, how are they snitching if it's not the cops they're talking to?
You know who they talk to?
They talk to private investigators for a company that I believe Rock Nation funded to sue Drake, me, and Aden.
That's what I think.
But Charlemagne is telling me that it's snitching.
And I'm like, well, when you say snitching, it kind of feel like it's the cops.
But why would the cops give you?
you the details unless you're the cops right it doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense listen
just listen to this legal activity because they're being paid to do things look what's illegal
about that so so so shalt's saying is this some illegal or legal stuff because when you hear
people are cooperating you hear police here we go i i really to be honest what you
I really don't know.
I really don't know.
When I say I don't know, I really don't know.
I saw this guy, there's this guy in Australia.
He wrote an article called, what was his name?
His name is Keishore.
Man, what's his name?
You know his name?
He wrote this article.
Is this alleged, by the way?
Like, are we...
Well, this is an article from Australia.
It says the rapper, the crypto billionaire,
and the Instagram Mystery Man.
The Instagram Mystery Man is,
Grant was a chat nigga,
aka George Nguyen, or whoever it is.
Now, Act told me that the dude Carson used to work for him.
Even more hilarious now that I know that he's being in the piece.
Oh, I should be up to get a picture up.
We should put a picture up, but Act told me that, what's his name?
You used to report his name?
It is Kishore Napier Rahman.
Kishore Napier Rahman apparently have been doing this story.
Like he writes for like a newspaper out there in Australia.
So apparently this was a big deal.
Like they came to Grand Wizard's house, aka George, New Orleans.
and was talking to his parents and was talking to him.
And this is all allegedly, him and the dude Carson were cooperating and just told them,
hey, we do these things because of these two individuals, you know, academics and Drake.
Once again, I don't know if this is true or not.
I just decided to tell act what the hell was going on.
No, and by the way, for the people who think that I'm ungrateful, no, thank you to the heads up.
But follow the heads up with where the hells you heard this shit from.
What? What?
Right?
So also, Ack told me that Carson...
So they're rolling on...
According to this, they're rolling on Ack.
Who's rolling on that?
The Grandi and then the other...
They just said that they're cooperating
and they said that the two people
they get their marching orders from
was academics and drugs.
So they're cooperating against?
That's what it sounded like to me!
And we know this is true or this is all legend right now?
I'm just showing you what they say.
They said it's been an investigation.
I just don't want to throw things on people that I find hilarious.
You can't shut the fuck up.
You know what I mean?
If you're not funny, you're guilty.
Shout to Shultz, man.
Shost loves grand.
What's you funny?
I'm like, ah, God, man.
Might be innocent?
But I told me that Carson used to work for him, but Carson don't work for him no more.
And we were told that Carson used to run academics TV.
But now, allegedly, George and Drake.
Now, this is why I keep saying about Charlemagne having this info.
Charleney says we were told that this guy used to run it, but now, like, who's, who's
we, like, who's telling you this?
Run academics TV.
Now, I told that all of this last week.
Academics TV is a, it's like a Twitter page that is crazy.
Like, they just, they go crazy on people.
Like, they, number one Twitter page in the space, I got to let you know.
Like, I don't know if y'all, I don't know if y'all heard the news.
Like, you know, Academics TV is one of them ones.
Still, I got to keep it a beam.
If you guys have, if you're on Twitter, got to go to Academics TV.
This is, this is, you know, the most trusted source in hip-hop.
I'll say that.
The most trusted source, okay?
You know, never sleeps, always with the updates, and always calling out people on their hypocrisy.
Academics TV, you can't beat it.
Can't even lie, okay?
Let's get back to it.
I mean, they just say the wildest shit.
Like, like, they say the wildest shit about people.
So this is, this is apparently, this is allegedly George right here.
That's Graham right there.
The goat, bro.
The goat.
So, nah.
That's apparently him.
But by the way.
So see, Charlemagne has some private pictures of Grant was in Chadnikov.
Yo, I keep trying to tell you how.
Me and Charleman not beefing, but he beefed him.
man grand and i offered to put them on the phone i think we should we should call we should make
it fair so charlemagne offered to put me on the phone or try to squash whatever with me and rock
nation and he said would you be down to talk to deserere or j well he didn't say jay but he said
like deserre i'm like i'm down to get on the phone with him you know what i mean even though i'm like
you're charlemagne they must have not told you the latest update they definitely would
never get on the phone me but but i said i was down to get on the phone with i did try to get
Charleman on the phone with Graeme Wizard of Chat naga.
It gets
it gets crazier, right?
So, you know,
George, stay true, George.
Don't roll, George.
He might have already did, but anyway.
Don't do it, great indeed.
I told...
I can't unfollow.
Listen, I told...
The content's too good.
I can't unfollow.
I told Act this information.
Yeah.
Right?
I don't know what Act went back and told
the team. Okay. I told him
everything you told me. I'm sorry.
Everything.
nigga, every single thing.
I love you, Charlemagne, but like, these are my people who, like, I didn't tell them to, like, oh, this is Charleneen, like, snitching him.
I'm like, yo, hey, there's some info out here.
This is what it is.
I stand with a gang, you know?
It's funny if I go to you and I say, yo, this dude, George, Grand With a Chat, nigger, you know, runs academics TV, allegedly.
and I'm telling you that this dude and this guy Carson might be cooperating and telling things about y'all that may or may not be true.
But then you spend the whole week slander in me.
Oh, act was slandering you?
No, no, Academics TV.
Who's ran by George, aka Grand with the chat nigger.
Oh.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
So you spend the whole week slandering me because of what I told.
at academic.
It's like you're kind of,
but you're kind of proving,
you're kind of proving these people right.
But somebody comes to me and says,
hey,
this guy right here,
you know,
works for these two individuals,
gets paid to spread these narratives,
and then when I go to your man
and tell you, man,
something about you,
you spend the whole
slander in me.
But why would they slander you?
Isn't that so obvious?
Oh, whoa.
That's a good point.
That's a great question.
When I saw one of the posts, I sent it to act.
And I'll tell you what I said.
I sent it to act.
I said, yo, aiming at me won't do nothing for him.
I just put you on to what came across our desk because you always do it for me.
And then he said, yeah, I think he thinks you and Rock Nation are exposing him, L.O.
L.L.
He said he got those picks three months ago, LOL.
This is next level.
LOL.
Dude is in another country.
What the fuck I got to do with this?
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, so they think
Rock Nation got to do with this?
They think you're tied to this ex-s-s-a on...
How?
When I called your man...
To notify him.
To tell him what the fuck was going on.
Ag didn't...
Yeah, but, Shal, I mean, you also call me to tell me to back up off these guys without...
Like, on some, like, yo, act, fall back from them.
And I'm like, okay, so who...
Where is this coming from?
I don't know.
What?
have to say nothing to nobody.
Act could have took that information.
This is fascinating.
Act could have took that information and did whatever with it.
He could have just went and notified his team.
I don't know.
So if Act notified his team and his team reaction is,
all right, well, let's go sland the dollar for the week.
You're kind of proving the point.
You're proving the point and making me look like,
oh, so maybe it is something to what the fuck may be going on.
But I don't know, I don't think academics has anything to do with it.
I really don't.
And why?
I think he's, he's affiliated with some people that he may not know everything that they're up to.
They're up to.
Because there's lawsuits like that.
There's lawsuits that Act just got added to, right?
Like involving Drake and Steak and all types of other shit.
And, you know, the dude George is also in those lawsuits as well.
Okay.
And I just think that that guy might be involved in some things that Act may not know about it.
Act put me on to the whole clipper game, even though I knew what the clippers were, but they really roll like a mob.
And a mafia.
And that's another thing I was telling that.
I was like, yo, you can't call Grand Wizard a mob and a mafia.
What the hell?
A Charleman drumming up the Rico right now.
The clipping Rico.
Oh, no.
The clipping Rico is crazy.
Chat nigger, the mob boss.
No way.
Yo, Grant is the mob boss.
Yo, chat, if y'all see me in a clipping Rico, it is called...
What?
There's people in these discords that they're in.
Oh, yo, imagine the clipping Rico.
He's known as Big Slime.
He's the most dangerous one of him all.
On social media, he has a goofy profile picture, but he calls himself the wizard.
The grand wizard.
The chat nigger of them.
Oh, hell no.
No.
Sending out what y'all are supposed to do.
So they hit.
So it's like, okay, Jay-Z performed on stage this Friday, on Saturday.
He said X, Y, and Z about Drake.
Here's the clips.
We're going to run with these narratives.
You don't even need bots when you got real people with real pages doing it.
And all you got to do is go look at academics TV,
and you can see the slander is a pattern to the slander.
Oh, so you're finding the sources in which it.
comes from.
Oh, it's all that academic TV page,
which is apparently ran by Grand With the Chat, niggas,
and the dude George, allegedly ran by it.
This is the thing a lot of people I think maybe don't understand
about, like, narratives on the internet.
Is it like these discords are incredibly powerful?
Because think about it, you only need, like,
30 people to make a comment section look a certain way.
Ooh, and you can take whatever clip you want, manipulate it.
Yo, I still want to say, and you're going to hear it,
me talk about naive.
Call me naive.
There isn't a campaign.
Like, they thought the Drake stuff was a campaign.
No, Drake just has fans.
They're now thinking that Jay Z shit's a campaign.
No.
The fuck nigga Jay came at Drake.
And right now, it's Iceman season.
Anybody that comes at Drake is just going to get roasted by his fans.
His fans are active right now.
And yes, academics TV is one of the biggest, like, you know,
like leaders in the, yo,
let's point at this fuck niggas trying to get that Drake,
but that's not no paid shit.
This is what happens when any huge fan base comes together.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, a lot of people that like Drake follow academics TV.
Oh, who's the newest fuck nigga hating on Drake?
That's not like some paid campaign.
That's just like people are sick of it.
And I'll stick with that.
Like, you know, people, they really want to act like this is like some,
you hear Jay, oh, this is, I got beef.
with Maga Republicans.
No, nigga, you got me for Grand Wizard Chadd nigga, bro.
Relax.
And he's a real Drake fan.
I'm a real Drake fan.
Like, you know what I mean?
And the other people you see commenting,
they're just Drake fans.
You know, cut it up.
But this is the thing that they do that's actually kind of brilliant.
They'll post a clip and put the caption.
So the narrative will be what they want out in the caption.
You might even listen to it and be like,
that's not exactly how that went.
It doesn't matter.
But it don't matter.
But also, if you think about,
like in the comments, if you see 10, 15, 20 comments,
your brain is almost conditioned to be like,
oh, this is how everyone feels about the thing.
But if you have these massive Discord groups
that are being coordinated
and narratives that are being coordinated
at the, basically the tip of the spear
of the Discord groups,
and then those people go out
and then push those narratives,
not only through clipping and through posting
to big accounts,
but also reinforcing those narratives
within the comment section.
Yes.
It's very similar to back in the day,
like when someone would talk about Beyonce and then like the bees would enter your chat.
And like that we felt like was really authentic.
It was like, don't mess with the beehive.
I think it was.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm not saying it wasn't.
Now they found a way where like you actually don't need 40 million followers on Instagram to create that.
No.
You need 50 people.
50 coordinated people that are all willing to say the same thing and each of them has one account.
But what if they have five accounts?
Yeah.
50 people becomes, what is that?
200.
Oh, they're making a kill.
Two to 50 people.
Oh, these clips are making a killing.
Oh, and apparently.
They, you know, they really are a clan, and they have a grand wizard, and his name is George, George Nguyen.
What's the how do you pronounce that?
I say win.
George Winn.
Okay, the Vietnamese kid from Australia.
Yeah.
And he is really, really, really, really in control of these individuals.
So he's a, act knows what's going on, and he's playing me, and I'm naive, or he has no idea.
No idea.
But I also think, you know, these guys can be scary, right?
Because, like, you know, what if?
You think it's that coordinated, though?
I know it is.
Listen, here's the thing.
I wish Alex was here, because unbeknownst to me,
yeah.
This came from act.
Alex Media had whatever dossier about George, like, three months ago and sent it to him.
I don't know what the fuck is going on.
And I go, oh, wow.
Where the fuck?
That's what I said.
I go, oh, wow.
He's invited.
You know, why he's that.
So what the fuck?
I'm like, so what the fuck is going on?
I left the country like Cass.
And after the other thing, I told Act, I said, listen, I don't know what the fuck is going on.
I'm just telling you what we got sent, told him that.
And I said, and oh, the crypto.
We got sent by who?
Accounts are flagged too.
The crypto accounts.
What does that mean?
I don't fucking know.
I'm just telling you what was sent to us.
So I'm relaying this messaging.
But then I see the lawsuits about.
you know, the crypto shit with stake and all of that and everything.
And I'm like, all right, they got some other shit going on over there.
So I'm just, I let Act know about what the fuck was going on.
So there's no, there's no issue between me and academics.
Or maybe I'm just being naive.
I think Grant.
But Grand, Academics TV?
He's innocent.
No, he's not.
No.
Maybe you're innocent.
He's a victim.
He's a victim in all.
I don't know if he's innocent of these allegations that he's being accused of.
But he'd be wilding on academics TV.
And that's the thing I told academics too.
Academics was like, yo, you know, these guys, man,
I don't know Academic TV on Twitter.
I follow, I am academics, and I follow academics on Instagram.
Yeah, Act was like, yeah, you know, these guys,
you know, my guys are being exposed.
And, you know, people are doxing my guys,
and they're coming after him.
No, Act, these motherfuckers be on social media
talking crazy about people.
Oh, and the chickens are coming home to roo.
The chickens are coming home to fucking roo.
You can't do that.
You can't throw rocks and hide your hand,
but I guess you can if you hide behind avies, aviars.
What's the shit called?
Avatar.
Avatars of academics, right?
And say your name is Graham, wasn't Chadnaker.
But now that your name is actually out there,
George Gwynn or whatever it is.
Yeah.
And people are actually coming to your house,
talking to you and your parents.
People in Australia are writing articles about what's going on.
Think you might want to relax.
Think you might want to take a step back
be like, yo, this is getting a bit too much.
Because at the worst, at the worst, I see, I can see, like, heavy lawsuits.
You know what I mean?
That cost you a lot of money.
And I don't know what the ramifications are with political things.
I do know that when you post political stuff on social media and you're endorsing people,
you have to tell people that you got paid for it.
This is confusing to me because I know Charlemagne is connected to some political things,
but like me and his connection is through hip hop
and he's worrying about politics more than he like
it almost kind of feels like
listen I like Trump I told you I like Trump
I don't think he's doing the best job
I'm doing a shitty job right now but but I tell you what I like
it feels like like even the way he's warning me
felt like he was doing the job of Democrats
and I was just like
bro I feel like this is almost like a Democrat thing
so really I think
Either the Democrats or Rock Nation or Rock Nation and a Democrat.
I don't know what the fuck, bro.
I'm confused.
Amen.
Every single time.
You can't just make a broad statement like, yo, I got paid by Republicans.
You know, every single time you do a post that's political that you got paid for,
you have to disclose that.
That's probably a good rule.
That's probably a good rule because then you know that at least the audience gets to decipher
whether it's authentic to who you are, what you believe,
or these are somebody else's identity.
is and they're using it.
Is that not something to tell somebody?
If somebody is giving you a heads up before about some bullshit,
is that not a reason to pick up the phone and give somebody a heads up?
Well, I think what you did was quite benevolent.
I don't see why, but it doesn't seem here that he's upset at you.
No, but it's his academic TV.
What's the connection between academics and academics TV?
That's his guy.
Does he own academics TV?
He must.
Who?
Academics.
Oh, I don't know.
I know.
They say George is, is dead.
definitely part of, is behind academics TV.
Who told you that?
The dude Carson.
Yeah.
And the dude Carson told, allegedly told investigators when he cooperated allegedly
that he used to write academics TV, but he gave it to George and Drake.
And Drake. So now we believe that Drake is.
I don't know.
I'm just, I don't say, I'm not.
I'm not saying I'm believing in any of it.
And tweeting.
I'm just saying what's happening.
He's a busy guy, this guy.
Yeah.
all I'm simply saying is they do come to the defense a lot.
Oh, of course.
A lot.
That's where the bread is buttered.
A lot.
And after Jay-Z dropped his freestyle, this Saturday, they, they, he got off me for a second,
and they just went straight Jay-Z, you know?
Well, we got to talk about that freestyle.
But we will.
And I just think I'll put a button on it by saying I think that maybe.
Because liking someone is not a crime.
Like, you love Kendrick, you think he's an amazing artist.
Nobody would ever assume you're getting paid to him.
It's not.
It's not.
But I just think it's two things, right?
And, you know, when you have those clippers on your side, that's a great team to have
on your side.
They run the internet.
The clippers run the fucking...
But they're also a horrible person that's not be on your side.
Oh, of course.
So if you're somebody, because I was wondering, I'm like, damn, Mac, I told you this
information.
Why didn't you tell your audience that?
Why didn't you tell your audience what I told you about George and Carson?
Oh.
And why haven't...
Academic TV aimed at Jerry?
Maybe I missed it.
Jeremy is.
Jeremy, heck.
Like, after what Jeremy.
Oh, we're on his headtop.
Charleneen, I love you.
So, I, you know, I love you.
Jeremy, we have no love for.
None.
None.
Jeremy gets treated like an op.
As much as even Grand Wild know you, like, I won't let Grant, there's levels.
That niggie, Jeremy, is a op.
If we catch something on Jeremy's dying mama,
trust me, you might see her fucking corpse on this fucking screen.
You know I get down.
I don't care.
That boy's an op.
When I get into it with niggas, I get into it with niggas.
I'm into it with that niggas.
Trust and believe.
So whatever you haven't seen of him, we ain't forget.
We on his headtop for life.
He better be up for life with me and him.
So I'm telling you this now.
that's not me and you
and I wouldn't even let my guy
like you know even though I'm
shit they are posting about you whatever but
it would never get that far with your trust
but that nigga there
remember
that Nick listen that boy Rurie dropped
the mailbox dropped the letter of my mailbox
just put it like this years later
I had a picture I had
I had a full paparazzi
photo shoot of him taking his kid to the park
and I stand by it
so this Jeremy nigga
Oh, this is a tip of the iceberg.
We're going to do some shit.
Don't worry about it.
Nothing illegal.
But, you know, you got to keep tabs on who keeps tabs with you.
Instead of going at Jeremy.
Because I don't even have that information Jeremy got.
I didn't get that.
I don't know.
I don't have that.
The stuff I got is music stuff and, you know, a couple of, like, political campaigns.
How would he get that information?
I don't know.
But that's my point.
My point is I...
Show Sacks next question.
How did you get information?
See y'all pointing the finger at him or going at him.
So why would you go at the person that gave your, you know, guy a heads up?
But I think...
What is your point?
What do you think?
What is your reason?
I don't know if X shared the information with them.
Why would he share it?
If he's actually skeptical of them, why would he share that information with that?
Because you should let people know that you on to what they got going on, so maybe they stop.
Shultz, I'm not skeptical of Grand Wizard.
I shared every information.
Everything Shurlamey.
We might as well be in a group chat.
I'm not here to lie, nigga.
Like, I told the nigga everything.
I say, yo, Grant, are you snitching on me, gang?
I'm like, well, here's the thing about the whole snitching thing.
There's nothing to snitch on.
You know what I mean?
Like, the idea of snitching is like if me and Grant went to do a crime together,
and I'm like, oh, shit, I just heard that grand flip.
Me and Grand not doing no crimes?
The fuck.
Which is why I'm doing this right now,
But it's just interest, right?
Because once again, like I said,
they're good to have on your side
and they're good to not have on your side.
Because what if they wake up one morning
and stop fucking with that?
What if I wake up one morning
and all of a sudden this,
DJ academics was accused of drugging
and raping a girl in 2020.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
And then they're amplifying that.
That's my point.
Like the tables can turn just like that.
So you think it's like private security.
It's like, yeah, they secure you until someone else pays more.
You see what I'm saying?
You see.
But by old, and I'm glad you said that.
Because I told Act that I said, act, the way you do anything is the way you do everything.
People that can get paid to do certain things will do that to the highest bidder.
And if you think otherwise, you're bugging.
Not just act, but anybody out there.
The way a person does anything is how they do everything.
Remember the early days of the internet with podcasts when like nobody knew that there was money surrounding it?
And it was so, it is interesting like, not to make this like a money thing, but like,
money corrupts everything
like you make too much money in sports
people start really cheating
when there's no money in sports
it's just people playing it for the love of the game
you start to make 100 million dollars
people are taking steroids
and taking peptides are doing everything
they possibly gain and get a competitive advantage
they send him Michael Jordan fucking
you know poison pizza during the play all
okay shot to show shots of Charlotte
man uh Charlotte I want to get you on the phone of Graham man
I want you out of squash shale issues
um
Listen, there's no mystery.
There's no campaign.
Jay Z should have shut his bitch ass up.
He went at Drake.
This Ice Man season.
Academics TV is a pro-Drake platform.
I'm sorry to tell you.
And yeah, like, yeah, what do you think was going to happen?
I mean, all Drake fans are activating.
Like, I'm not going to lie.
The page kind of caters to Drake fans, just like there's other pages that cater to other niggas fans.
Yeah.
It's just that simple.
Drake didn't orchestrate nothing
Drake isn't green the craziest thing they keep saying is that Drake has the password to the page
I'm like huh
Like what
It's like oh Drake controls the page
Not gonna lie it kind of sound cool though
I kind of want to let that rock but it's like huh? We're not getting this one
Whatever all right
All right
Let's see
Okay do we want to get into this uh dirk ditty stuff or should we get into chud the builder
Let's get into chud the builder real quick
This is a little bit outside of hip hop but we did
one to get into
Chud the Builder's
bond hearing
and if you guys don't know
essentially Chud the builder
his name is
Dalton
Etherly
he shot a black
male after he came out of court
for some other issue
and he walked outside the courtroom
he started streaming
antagonizing a guy
they got into it
the guy eventually punched him
and supposedly while falling to the ground
he grabbed his gun and shot the guy
or shot at the guy
seven times. The guy has not died. However, while some people online tout that this is clear case
of self-defense, some people feel that this is a classic case of someone overstepping and using a gun
to antagonize people and also trying to falsely claim self-defense. Anyway, he's been incarcerated
on $1.5 million in bond. Actually, one million.
in bond. It was 1.5 previous. It got reduced to 1 million. And currently, streamer Trud the
builder has not been able to get out of jail yet. They had a bond hearing where the judge ruled on
what would happen and how the court would accept bond for the million. And, you know, for all the
people who say, oh, well, there's other cases that's happened in Tennessee where the bond was less.
the judge explicitly said before the reason why his bond was doubled is because when it's routine
that when you already have a case that you're out on bond and you commit another offense
or you're charged with another offense, we then double your bond.
So this is something, you know, it's kind of crazy.
We have, we have black folks on behalf of white folks claiming that this is reverse racism
and he's not getting a fair shake, which, huh?
But okay.
And we have just chud the builder's supporters.
Oh, well, why is he not getting?
Well, there is an explanation why his bond was doubled.
Let's get to some of the quick details.
And I'll tell you what the judge said afterwards.
But this might be his lawyer.
Let's see.
A lot.
And I understand Judge Polan saying, hey, you know, he's out on bail for other things.
But let's look closely at what these other things are.
I mean, these are petty crimes.
Even if they were true could result in a diversion.
nothing that's and they're not frankly they're just ridiculous allegations so I would ask the court to take all this into account and to reduce his bail accordingly and allow mr.
leverson to post his bail whatever the court thinks is appropriate and I can put proof on a proof on excuse me if the court needs that I have Mr.
Ethelie's father here and mr. Rosen here to testify and we have a whole row of folks in support of mr.
here as well, which again, that's, I mean, that shows he has ties to this community.
Okay. Now we get the prosecutor who goes up.
Despite what Mr. Finley says about the merits, it is in the system.
It is going to the grand jury.
The Nashville case, theft of services was he went to a restaurant, ordered a lot of food.
He was doing his streaming at the table and in the restaurant.
They asked him a couple of times to stop.
He refused.
They asked him to leave because of that.
And he said, well, I'm not going to pay if you're going to make me leave.
So a little bit different facts.
And of course, on the way out, he's dropping all kinds of negative words at everybody.
And that was the basis of the disorderly conduct.
and I think the resisting arrest.
So that'll be played out in Davidson County.
If somebody can make bail,
I think the only thing Mr. Finley needs to hear
is what is the court's requirement,
how many bonding companies and so forth,
and what would be the conditions from this court,
according to the law for Mr. Finley and any third parties
that want to postpone
bond for Mr. Etherly I don't know where seems like that's what he needs to know from the court if he has people that can make the million dollars or
any other way through a bonding company or companies that the court requires
know why we're here but the facts of the matter of this particular case here
given Mr. Etherley's business venture
which is Chud the Builder is live streaming,
certain interactions with black people,
saying derogatory things.
We know what that is.
Now, this is important.
And, you know, we've kind of like debated Myron
and, you know, kind of responded to how people have thought about this.
And for the people who are stoic and stand on the,
oh, no, you should be able to do whatever he wants.
Well, okay, all right, cool.
haven't gotten to trial yet. And this part of the case, which is a bond hearing, this doesn't need to be
beyond a reasonable doubt. You could bring in narratives. You could bring in behavior. You could bring in
even how this guy feels about certain groups of people. All of this matters because it'll go into
these certain things that are going to matter in determining bond. Is this person a flight risk?
Are they a danger to the community?
And how well could you guarantee that they're going to come back?
So, you know, these details, while some people might disagree, like, oh, he's not antagonizing.
It doesn't matter if you have this technicality.
If the judge or the prosecutor puts it across like that, it's depending on how the judge sees it.
Causes an interaction and a response from certain black people on the street.
I've been doing it for probably close to a year now.
That's his stated purpose.
So he goes out to intentionally insight and provoke black people for response.
And that's what he did on May 13th.
No legitimate purpose for being at the courthouse that day.
He had missed court at 9 o'clock.
This is all proof that came out in the preliminary here.
A default judgment was taken in a civil matter.
Mr. Fox, however, was here on a child support matter with his wife to begin at 1.30.
Who was here?
Mr. Fox.
That's the victim.
That's the victim.
He's the person who was shot five times.
He's the alleged victim in this case.
We have tracked through video the exact moments that all parties arrived on the courthouse campus.
Mr. Fox and his wife arrived about 108 from North 3rd Street and proceed to go to the main entrance and just sit on those concrete planners.
Mr. Ethelie probably makes it to the parking lot about 112.
starts walking across.
That's on the North Second Street side,
starts walking across.
Selfie stick in hand.
Immediately walks right in front of Mr. and Mrs. Fox.
And now we don't have audio yet of it,
but he stops right at Mr. and Mrs. Fox.
And what can only be assumed
as starts his live streaming right there,
the same thing he does approaches the first black people he could see.
That happens for maybe a minute right there.
Mr. Ethelie walks away.
Selfie stick in his right hand.
He's still looking back at Mr. Fox over here.
Mr. Fox is looking at him.
Mr. Fox does get up and approach Mr. Etherly.
Now, where does this interaction take place?
I don't, it's closer to the north third street.
So he's describing what was supposedly caught on surveillance camera and from all the evidence they have.
And this is important because we've seen some people who defend Chud the Builder.
They claim there is exculpatory evidence that kind of show that he was being either pursued or confronted or he was trying to leave.
And this other guy was, you know, closing the distance or, you know, trying to.
continue with him while Tud the building was not violent.
side of the courthouse as you're walking out the courthouse looking at the
historic courthouse.
What?
It is on the courthouse property.
Oh yes.
Yes.
How far away from the plaza, the lack of better description.
The plaza being that planned area.
What was right, it had, all this occurred right at the last set of planners.
Okay.
on the left hand side.
Mr. Fox is seen in the video,
making gestures
to
Mr. Etherly
Mr. Ethelie
switches his selfie stick to the left hand.
He puts his right hand in his
suit pocket. This is prior to any physical
interaction.
Mr. Fox walks away from him.
He comes back.
Mr. Etherly
He's trying to reach something out of his pocket.
Just common sense says it's the fire on
because he has a selfie stick in his left hand.
And then Mr. Fox strikes him.
As the gun comes out,
seven shots are fired within seconds.
Five of them, I believe, struck Mr. Fox
as they went to the ground fighting.
That is the case.
Like I said at the prelim,
Some of these are going to be splitting hairs, some of this law about self-defense, the proportionality of a punch compared to using deadly force, whether there was provocation that negates the self-defense claim.
All those things happen later.
But some of these things showing just some poor forb-suff motive and intent, he has posted things.
on X, made other videos on X, what his intent is.
For instance, on May 4th of this year on X, he posted,
keep encouraging your fellow blacks to assault me.
Oh, by the way, this was his, so the prosecutor brings up the tweet that he tweeted to me.
And this is what I said, man, I think we tricked him off the streets.
Remember, Chud the builder tweets at me.
He tweets at me.
he basically says keep encouraging your fellow blacks
and then he basically says
I'm going to leave one of these chimps brains on the pavement
because of you and I was like perfect
well not perfect that he's going to kill somebody
but I said perfect we'll use this later
and it's now being used yeah
I don't know if I can find it on his actual page
I think he deleted some stuff deleted
but that was his tweet response to me
X, he posted, keep encouraging your fellow blacks to assault me.
When you see a chimp with their brains blown out on the timeline,
just know y'all did this to your own people.
Trick them off the streets, man.
Yo, chat, this is our finest work yet, man.
You tricked this nigga off the streets.
May 7, 2016, this is six days before this event.
Chudde build their posts on X.
I will defend my life with lethal force.
Do not approach me with intent to threaten bodily harm.
And then he posts another response to himself.
Series finale is dead chimp on the pavement
and you monkeys riding when I walk free, stay tuned.
That's just the one that shows his motive and intent
on what his business model is.
Does it rise to provocation when he then takes to the street and interacts with black people to get a response?
Could very easily be provocation, which negates any self-defense, or the proportionality of the force used by Mr. Etherly to a punch in the face.
He uses deadly force.
There you go.
Mr. Ethelty has to reasonably believe of imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury in that confrontation with Mrs. Fox.
So there are legal aspects to the reasons why this was done and the actions my office took.
And those were all the things that were argued.
I think the bond is reasonable whether the court wants to put down.
requirements and conditions on how a bond would be made.
I think that would serve Mr. Finley better.
Thank you.
Mr. Finley, you look like you want to say something.
Well, that's sometimes one of my biggest problems, Judge.
Yeah, you see Chutte over there, quiet as hell.
I want to say something.
Now, it was hard to go through everything that happened at that pre-lim,
Mr. Nash, or General Nash, excuse.
The general session reported in an opportunity to be.
opportunity to spend what half a day listening to prove I assume I can't take issue
with that and I think one of the interesting things under state fee burdens it's kind of a
Tennessee case dealing with bail in 464 South okay let me get to this this is bond
things. We've also got the motion that's had with this, I guess, L.A. bonding?
Yes, sir.
I don't know if the court will the second argument, Mr. Levison on England.
Quite frankly, it's not clear whether the million dollars is being transferred to the
surety company to an idea.
So there's a gambling company trying to bail out, I think it's dual. They're trying to
bail out Chud. And the judge, the judge said no. The judge said, we're not doing that. This is his
ruling for all the other people who want to bail him out. And also, he has said that, um, no one bond
company could give more than a hundred thousand dollars. So technically would have to take 10 bond
companies. Now, here's the thing. Chud is having a problem even getting a lawyer. Why? And by the way,
this is for all the people who keep saying free speech. Well, freedom of speech doesn't mean
freedom of consequences in businesses don't want to associate with you because they don't want to look
racist, right? Like the law firms that's going to represent you, they're going to seem racist
to other people that might want to consider them for their case. So basically, the bond companies
don't want to put down bond form. And the judge actually made it where it's going to take like
10 bond companies, but most of them don't want to be involved with this shit because they
I would imagine if they're a bond company, most of their clients,
not say most, but a good amount might be like people that might be minorities
or African Americans or whatever.
Why the hell would you go bail out Chud?
Then maybe in the future someone doesn't want to use your bond company
because they feel like you're racist.
In the practice of this court and continuously so that under our local rules,
courts have to approve any bond.
technically any bond over 705,000 they want to modify the country tradition of my
practice to not over a hundred thousand dollars it's going to continue to be my
practice I understand that LA bonding is backed by an insurance company I do find
it somewhat curious as I look at the materials it looks like
The million dollars, by the fact it's not clear whether the million dollars is being transferred to the surety company to, I guess, keep L.A. bonding in good prices and keep their capacity where it needs to be able to buy other bonds or whatever reason.
I amends. That source troubles me. So I'm going to leave the restriction in place. Any bonding
company would be limited to 100,000 translates into 10 bonding companies to make a
big end-bonding companies. Damn, you would need 10 bonding companies. He's limited every bonding company
to 100,000. And by the way, I do want to say, you know, for the people who like to defend,
Chud, I know Tennessee, especially even Nashville area, they have a bad rap of being like super
pro-white and you know kind of like a little bit racist they're anti-black you know obviously it's
the home of like you know country music in this and third this is why i say to even like you know
when i hear the sneakos in them defend like you know this guy chud yo bro white people don't even
want to defend this guy like so why you're not even white why you defend it like the white people
don't yo they're looking at this guy like yo bro like even if we racist we don't move like that nigger
Like, that's the reality of it.
The white people here don't want to fuck with Chud.
So that's why when I hear the black people defending Chud
and I'm hearing like these like Oriental looking niggins,
I'm like, what are you all doing?
This is a white judge and he's, you could tell he's disgusted.
He has a million dollar bond and he says you need 10 bond companies
to agree to let you out.
The white people don't, you know why?
Because this type of ghetto racism is not where.
they're at. If they're racist, if they're racist, they get their racism through the power they have
now. He's a sitting judge. If he racist and he wants to get back at a black person, it's going to
be in his ruling. You know what he's not going to do? Go live and be like, yo, let me call somebody
the N-word. So even he's disgusted by it. And I'm not saying he's not racist too. So that's why when
I see people defending Chud, I'm like, yeah, bro, have y'all not got the memo? The actual white
niggas don't even defend this shit.
You're prepared to order?
Any other issues we need to address?
I guess you've accepted Mr. Rosen as appropriate, so it's correct, based on his testimony.
He divided up among five bonding companies.
I mean, I'm not going to get into the bonding business.
Okay.
And let's be clear.
I'm not real clear that Mr. Rosen's.
getting ready to clean out his 500,000 dollar savings account and write a check
and wind up.
By the way, I think Chud's going to get out at some point.
Here's the thing.
Do what y'all got to do, y'all can't be like doing this weird pony up money shit.
What should happen is that his family should put up an actual asset.
Put up a house that's worth a million dollars.
If he has the capital, y'all should wire him the money.
wired to his account and let him put up bond.
But here's the thing.
Everybody who would be putting up money for him has some financial incentives.
So that's why they don't want to just like give him the money.
They want to put it up on his behalf.
You know?
No.
If you believe that much in Chud, do it the right way.
The judge is, he's definitely being strict.
He definitely thinks it's a serious thing.
And if you want to put yourself in the line for a million dollars, do it the right way.
I think Chud will get released.
It's just going to take probably a month or two more.
But I think he'll get released in anticipation of his trial.
Will he continue the same shit?
We don't know.
Let's look real quick what's going on with Sauce Walker and Drake.
So why did Salswaka BM go do a interview with No Jumper?
Now, this was actually crazy.
No Jumper, the coolest podcast.
We all know.
Remember I told you that and I gave you the lore.
I said, yo, all this happened because of Adam 22 and Wack 100.
This happened where, you know, Drake took back a girl car, which, by the way, did you
see that?
Y'all didn't even want to bring it up.
I didn't want to bring it up.
Drake my man, so I didn't even want to bring it up, bro.
Like, yo, the girl that Drake took her car back, she was spazzing out today, like losing it.
Hey, Shorty, you're never getting mentioned in another song again, okay?
Like, she was just saying dumb shit.
She was like, she was like, yo, these guys are da-da-da-da-da.
She was like, I'm 23 and I'm like,
she was saying it like she was acting like she was 16.
Like, bro, you're a grown-ass woman.
You're being treated like a prostitute, shirty.
Like, you should have seen it, bro.
Like, the girl that Drick shouted out, her name was like princess,
that supposedly her, she gets into it with like, you know,
sauce and Drake takes her car back.
bro, she was wilding on the gram yesterday.
Like, even cussing out Drake.
Like, oh, all y'all are weird.
Da da da da.
And I looked at this shit and I was just like, and she kept saying one thing.
She was like, yeah, y'all would do all this type of shit to a 23 year old girl.
And I'm like, yo, Shoddy, you're a grown-ass woman.
Like, you escort.
Then she started talking to my lawyer and I'm like, bro, nobody believe no scally wag with a lord.
But whatever, man.
I'm just like, I'm not even going to heat that situation up just because, like, I could tell.
she started wilding Drake
Never give a chick
She I ain't gonna cap with you
She called Drake the like PDF
Like Drake it's no way you bought a bitch
A fucking
A fucking
What do you call it again
Penhouse and cars
And the bitch could even say
She should be talking like sauce
Walka baby moms
So this princess chick
Dub dub
Dub I don't care how old she is
How would she feel
She on social media
talking crazy, duh.
She deleted all of it, but like, duh, trust me.
I don't even want to, I ain't going to bring it up.
But I did see it.
I was just like, why is this chick wilding out?
She got the car back.
She got the car.
I think she got the car.
I don't know if she got the car.
I think she got the car back, but like,
like she, she started going off on sauce and Drake,
but she, like, if a nigga
then did all that for you, you don't play with his thing.
Even if, I get it.
Maybe he played with you and he took the car back,
but you don't get on line and start saying,
shit. So she's a dub completely.
That's the world.
And I feel like today
we are
All right. So this is
Sauce Walker's baby mama and
Adam 22.
Going left and he was coming off
drink and I was helping him
sober up and taking care.
I'm going to get to the entertaining parts.
Today it's on video.
And really? But that video's never been
released or anything? I've never seen the video.
No, but I know he has it.
So your baby's what age at this point?
A month or so.
And he has you jumped.
But like what did you do that made him feel?
So sauce walker had his baby mom jump.
Like now is the time that you deserve to get jumped.
Because I saw you post screenshots and stuff of him acknowledging that this happened.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know.
Probably because I don't let him speak to me or talk to me or let him do whatever he wants to do.
me and that's part of our issue and that's why things I think escalate so fast and so quickly
and to the point to the point that it does is because I'm also like you know and I talk back
and you call me a bitch I'm gonna call you a peon and now we're at odds and now you're mad
right and that's probably how it happened that's how it always happens did you recognize
the girls who were jumping in
Did you recognize the girls that were jumping you?
And these were just girls that were around him.
His cousin.
And then I think a girl also that was freshly around,
I had never met her in person, but up until that point.
Damn.
So how badly were you injured?
Not too badly.
I have pictures of it.
It was mostly just my head.
I had some scratches and some bruising on my forehead, but that was really it.
And he's just like overseeing this?
Like what is he saying?
or like what does he say afterwards?
Well, after that, it took my son, obviously back, and I went back home.
And a couple days later, he was at my house banging on my door, begging me to take him back
and be cool and offering me money.
And, you know, it's just the same old bullshit.
It always is.
Wow.
And how long did you separate at that point?
Because, I mean, that's got to be kind of hard to get over, right?
Yeah, I think, you know, I did definitely take him back.
after that situation.
And then I think we went to like a couple,
maybe a month or so,
a month and a half or so after that.
He took me to a court side game to the Rockets.
And we, you know, he made up for it,
essentially, I guess, if that's what you want to call it.
If he had laid hands on you, like repeatedly over the years,
why would he then feel the need to get you beat up by these girls,
like just to not get his hands dirty?
Well, because during my pregnancy, I was so angry with him that I exposed him also around that time too.
Oh, that's when you first started posting about him, and that is what really, really triggered him, you think?
Yeah, and then I remember him telling me throughout my whole pregnancy the few times that he would talk to me, and it was mostly arguments.
It wasn't anything lov-dovey or anything like that.
He would mostly just scream at me and tell me that he's not going to be.
to put his hands on me anymore he'll have other people do it right geez and he has so that wasn't the
only time that he got you set up um yeah he i mean set up no but had other people put their hands on me
yes he's done that but that was the first time he had me set up and probably the only time he's
had me set up but there's been other incidents where other people were around and he told them to
do what they needed to do.
Right.
And they did.
Damn.
What was the worst time he ever put his hands on you, though?
Like, how bad did that part of it get?
Well, probably the strength thing.
That was pretty bad.
I have photos of that also.
Right.
I almost passed out during that time.
And then probably the second time in Tampa, Florida,
I flew out there to see him, and I gave him some money.
and not even three seconds after that.
Me and him got into an argument,
and then he opened hands slapped me in my face,
and I had to get stitches in my mouth.
Wow.
It's like occurring to me how crazy this is,
as we're saying it,
that it feels like his fan base
or like the number one type of people
that are not going to be sympathetic about this kind of thing,
but really I feel like he kind of deserves.
Yeah, I'm going to keep it up being with you, man.
You date a pimp, man.
I'm gonna be honest, like,
listen, y'all ain't gonna like me for saying this.
Hearing that a pimp,
pimps slapped a chick,
I don't agree with it,
but I would,
like you would have pimped my nigga,
like,
you're dating sauce Walker.
You're not dating Russell Wilson?
You dating Sauce Walker, bro?
It used to be put in the same category
as, like, a lot of other people
who have been exposed for abuse over the years,
but...
Yeah, and that's, you know,
like, that's why I'm here,
because I've dealt with it for so long.
I've been dealing with him since 2020.
So it's just like this is my life that I live on a daily basis with him.
And now I'm trying to navigate co-parenting with him, it's almost impossible.
And I'm like, well, why not just tell everybody else?
Why not expose it?
I've already lived through it.
He's already done the worst to me.
So now coming to the Internet and telling my truth and telling my story with him,
what are you going to do to me?
I've already done the worst.
I've already lived through it and I can do it again if I have to.
Right.
All you have to do is just speak freely and kind of paints the picture for the world to see.
Because I mean, but he tries to cover up a lot of this stuff with like the whole pimp thing, right?
Like this is all kind of justified under this like pimp persona.
Like how do you feel about that?
I think it's stupid.
Yeah.
I think it's ridiculous.
Yeah.
And it's just what's the point?
You know, if that's what you want to do, then do it.
But you're not going to do it with me.
Yeah.
Because I mean, like so many of the people that I've had on the podcast over the years
or like people we talk about who kind of live by this like pimp code or whatever.
It becomes pretty obvious pretty quickly that like this is just like a front that you put on
to justify all of this crazy fucked up behavior.
Yeah, exactly.
Shit with like extremely young girls, which you said you were freshly.
18 so I guess he wasn't like breaking the law or whatever but who knows and then I mean I don't know what you know
that's what they yo Adam's a slimy nigga you threw the alley who like let me know he was
fucking with 15 please she's she's trying to throw the alley god damn Adam I hear about these pips a lot
is that like as far as making money you know they're not following the law in the first place
so the age of consent is also probably not something that they're terribly concerned with or
And now he think, but now with the whole only fans thing, when that became about it, he essentially thought now it's like, now I'm good.
Because it's covered by OnlyFans.
It's legal money.
We're doing it together.
You know, I'm not sending you out with tricks.
We're at home doing what we normally do at home just on camera.
You know, what's the point?
You know, it's different.
It's not the same.
But from your experience, was he doing the more traditional side of the thing as well?
Yeah.
at the very beginning.
Okay.
But then he kind of cooled off with that as
Only fans sort of took over?
The digital pivot, as they call it.
Yeah.
I mean, she kind of validating that,
yo,
sauce was sending her out to go get fucked by
niggas for money.
Like,
yo,
I'm gonna keep it to be with you,
bro.
Like,
all she describing is some pimps shit.
Like,
there's a part in the interview
where she's like,
yeah,
Drake treat me better.
And I'm like,
and she's like,
I can't even get $100 out of my baby daddy.
I don't know how y'all took that.
You know,
I took it?
I'm like,
That nigga pimping for real.
Oh, that fuck, you think,
oh, that nigga's not spending shit on you.
I'm sorry.
You're dating a pimp.
I think also after I got, like, my surgeries,
and then he saw the change in me
and how, I guess, in his eyes,
how much better I looked.
That's when he really started was, like,
you can't talk to anyone else.
You can't be around anyone else.
Don't fuck anyone else.
you're mine right you're see his mind right damn so um part of what you kind of exposed about him
and everything was that you were saying that he was broke I mean like he presents himself
as if he's like a multi-millionaire with tons of different businesses and everything like that
but then you put yeah and it's like I kind of have been suspicious about that because I'll see him say
that he's got 20 dispensaries and he's like I got I just opened my third
dispensary and I'm kind of watching online like how does that work oh when you
post like a screenshot of him having like three grand in the bank or I forget what it was like
15k total in the bank or some shit like that like he's it was 16,000 in auto loans
oh okay thousand in the checking oh shit so from your perspective when he says that he's got millions
of dollars and he's holding the huge tax of money and shit like how does that work
honestly I have no idea that's something I can't really put together in my own head and that
screenshot is not, I don't have
access to his bank account.
That screenshot is he sent it to me
because I was threatening to put him on child support
because I ain't want to lie to you.
Bro, like I'd be calling a spade of spade
she tried to expose him on a bunch of shit.
It kind of validated him.
Yeah, she's like, oh, he's broke.
He sent me the screenshot.
I don't have access to his bank account.
Yeah, the nigger's going to tell you he's broke
because he doesn't want to pay you.
The nigger don't do nothing for you except fuck you.
She was like, oh, he sent me that screenshot.
He's trying not to get on child support.
He does nothing, but maybe buy some shoes and clothes here and there.
But yeah, he sent me that screenshot.
And as far as all this cash, I don't know.
Like, I know whenever I was with him and we were together every day,
I know a lot of his money came in cash through like rap features and music videos
and Instagram promotion and things like that.
But all this new stuff I have no idea about
because I haven't been with him.
I'm not in his everyday life.
And then as far as the dispensaries go,
I really think he's just more of like a promoter for it.
Right.
And then gets cut a check.
Yeah.
I don't think he's the owners of them.
Yeah, I would assume for sure.
But that was one thing that really stood out to me
because at one point my boy Rimo tried to like put me in him on text.
to like talk out our issues or some shit like that.
And he just like,
I honestly didn't even look at it,
but he just like,
he had like dozens of screenshots on deck of like photos of bank accounts.
I saw those messages.
Yeah.
Oh, you did?
Yeah, he sent them to me.
Okay.
He was very upset about it.
Yeah,
I didn't even really like look at it.
But like it was like all these screenshots of him having millions of dollars in the
bank and all this shit.
And like,
I'm just like,
I don't know.
Like I'm,
I'll be real.
I'm a multi-millioner and I've never even considered.
sending people screenshots of my fucking bank account or anything, just because, like, I don't really, like, want to have to justify my existence on the basis of money or whatever.
You know, that's just, like, so not how I would ever want to be out here behaving.
And most people with money, they don't do that, you know?
Like, why do I care if you know how much money I have in the bank?
It's none of your business.
Yeah.
And that's not something I feel the need to prove.
Right.
You know, most millionaires or most people with money, they don't care.
They're just going to show you.
you and you're going to see it.
Right.
You don't have to brag about it.
And like I get why he has to do it because he's a rapper because it's like he's got
flex with chains and cash and whatever jewelry.
But like this was just a text with like me, him and Remo.
And he's like really concerned with me like knowing that he has money.
And I'm just like, this does not change anything about how I feel about you or like it
doesn't make me think you're like more of a big man or anything like that.
Like I was just like, I don't know.
That really like stood out to me.
I was like, whoa, he's insecure.
And so then.
Very.
So insecure hits home?
Yeah.
Why?
Like, you don't think he's like as confident as he maybe lets on?
Mm-mm.
Interesting.
No, I don't.
So, okay, then there was a conversation.
Okay, well, we got to rewind the clock.
When did you first speak to Drake?
There we go.
There we go.
I met him back in 2024 on his birthday that he had in Houston.
Okay.
And you were just at the club or something?
Yeah, I was like a private event.
Well, I was kind of open to the public or something, and then I was invited, so I went,
and I brought a lot of my friends with me.
I think I was with eight or nine girls, you know, we're all bad bitches, BBOs,
look pretty, look good.
So it caused a lot of attention, I'm assuming, and he came up and introduced himself to all of us.
Okay.
And how long did it take before he figured out of your,
Sawswalk as baby mama because him and Soss have like been kind of trading words for
really like since like the very beginning of Drake's career which is kind of crazy a lot of people
are just realizing that now I don't know maybe okay fairly quickly he figured it out
did that seem like that was of interest to him um maybe I guess I can't speak for him but yeah
okay and so what do you how many times you say you and Drake hung out or like
How did that kind of unfold?
Um, a few times, you know.
Okay.
It was, we had a good run.
You know, he's a great man, appreciating him for everything.
And so I'm going to really say about that.
Okay.
And at some point he ends up getting you a car.
Mm-hmm.
And prior, let's go back to the birthday party.
My baby daddy went to the birthday party.
Sauce was there.
Yes.
Okay.
And he knew I was there.
He had his little minions running around my section, keeping an eye on me.
And then from what I heard, he was there for about five minutes and left because he was
uncomfortable that I was there.
And I'm sure he knew what was about to go down.
Oh, shit.
What was going to go down?
You know, I'm sure he knew Drake was going to talk to me and I was going to do what I was
going to do.
And I'm sure he had a gut feeling about it.
And he didn't want to see it happen in person.
Oh, wow.
And, yeah.
Yo, I hate to say it, bro.
Yo, I don't know what's going on in Houston.
But these bidsies be looking fat, just out of shape, and mid.
I got to keep it up being with you, bro.
Yo, Shorty really thinks she, like, dumb fire.
Yo, Drake is just, Drake is sending you a million dollars
because he hates your baby daddy.
Like, you know, she's filling herself, like,
yo, gang, like, you got more body fat than me.
Just stuffed in your butt, gang, like, this, like,
like, respectfully.
We're not talking my bitch that look like Ruby Rose.
Like, it's like a butterface.
Like, I got to keep it a bean.
Yo, sauce, I know that's your baby moms.
But like, yo, sauce, it's not like no bad bitch.
Like, like, I got to keep it a bean.
If this was Drake like, that means Drake just don't like his bank account.
Like, this is not a bad bitch.
Like, Drake got to be just paying for this shit just to fuck with sauce.
Like, yo, she's doing an interview thinking that Drake fuck with her.
Bro, Drake just, Drake wanted this moment.
He wanted to fuck up your life.
Put it like this.
Drake don't even talk to this chick no more, right?
Drake don't give a fuck about the car you gave him.
Or he gave you.
He don't give a fuck about the spot he paid for.
You and your baby daddy got a kid for life
and you're on Adam 22 show another op of your baby daddy
acting like you to shit like, bro.
It's the same thing.
All them other simple-ass niggis who's hit you up,
little baby and the rest of them niggas,
they just want to fuck with sauce
That's why sauce don't like them
It's not you shorthy
Like it's crazy like I'm listening to the girl
She's kind of popping it like she thinks she's her
And I'm like yo bro
The rappers who hit you up
They don't like your baby daddy
Like you're mid
I'm sorry you're mid
You got the standard BBL
But you're mid
All this hoeing and pimping bullshit
Y'all keep talking about
Y'all gotta start like
Maybe I just don't like these times
type of girls, these girls don't look that good, bro.
I swear to, I swear I see regular girls on the ground from fucking Washington Heights,
from fucking motherfucking Lawrenceville in Massachusetts.
I'm on to y'all.
From Philly that's better like, yo, this, you tell me this like a bad bitch, bro?
This bitch looks like Chloe Kardashian without this surgery, bro.
Stop it, bro.
Drake just wanted to spend the Millie because he don't like sauce, bro.
Little baby does a trick-ass nigga, like, I don't know how these Houston bitches that,
don't look good is getting gassed up like this
these chicks do not yo I swear
if they were like bad bitches I'd be like
okay I see it bro these chicks look
garbage gang like respectfully
and sauce like I know it's your baby minds but like you know
you just you were hitting the
the white heifer meta
she's a white heifer that's it
white bitch who's not ghetto
you put some surgery on her and you
fuck on her and to all them niggas yo
she resembles the fat white
bitch who lets you drive the car in the hood.
Like, it's not no bad bitch, bro.
Like, like, we can't even get gassed over this.
It's like some, it's like some spoiled milk.
Like, what are we doing?
Am I tripping, Jack?
Am I tripping?
Bro, I'm not tripping.
Like, I'm not hating on her.
Like, yeah, Drake spent a million on her or whatever.
Like, sauce doing whatever.
Yeah, you gave her kids to her.
But respectfully to both of them niggins and I'm not trying to,
this ain't got nothing to do with me.
So I'm not trying to be like, oh, I get bad.
I'm just saying I have eyes and I know bad bitches.
She's not it.
So I'm wondering why the fuck did both the audience?
Like this whole thing where we're trying to figure out who won Drake or sauce.
I'm like, neither of them won.
We're not talking about a top tier bitch.
This chick's a six.
Brough, we're talking about a six, gang.
Bro, we're talking.
We're talking about practice, gang.
We're not talking about a 10.
We're talking about a six.
A random six out of Texas, my nigga.
Like, are you crazy?
Nick, a neon could crack her on a random night.
What are we talking about?
Like, this is this rapper ego.
Drake and this nigga just beefing.
Like, if this is the type of chick Drake is getting,
I gotta start listening to his music different
because, like, you can't be rapping about
the random ugly six like this, bro.
No way.
She's not bad to me.
Is it just me?
BMI 40.
What I'm me?
Double chin like just.
It's like a butterface, random like white chick, no seasoning, no nothing.
If that's how Texas is giving it up, let's go back to Miami, nigga.
Let's go get the Latinas, gang.
This ain't it to me.
So I don't mean to diss your style, your flavor, yo, whatever, but she just, you.
Yo, and I'm really saying this not to dis her.
I'm saying this to say, if any y'all bitches down there really be thinking, like,
I know good-looking girls.
Most things are good-looking girls.
Half of the bitches that get money spent on them is not because of the bitches.
When you finally look at them
You're like
Even a princess girl
I'm like this bitch is kind of like
Bro she looked like any hefty bitch
Who got some surgery
Like she
Like what is it because she dance good
No
These niggies is spending money
Not off looks
It's not like oh this is dropped dead
Like Lori Harvey's drop dead gorgeous
I ain't gonna lie to you
Lori Harvey is gorgeous
These bitches
These bitches they look like men in the face gang
They look like men with a bunch of like
BBLs and all this other like
fucking surgery
shit. I'm like even sitting here. I'm like, I do like the lower because I'm listening to
Drake music. I like to understand, but I'm like, bro, this big back, this big back bitch is
actually acting like she flexing on Drake and she flexing on on sauce. Like, bro, this ain't a
win. But it's just mad, bad, like there's attractive women in the world. This is why I started
believing that clav nigga. It's no way I'm spending a million dollars on this thing. Ain't
no fucking way. And I refuse to.
believe that Drake spent a million dollars on her because he's attracted to this.
He spent a million dollars on her to shit on her man.
That's what I'm going to believe.
Bro, chat, am I tripping?
Is she like a 10 out of 10 of you, bro?
When you find out that a billionaire rapper is spending a million on her and the biggest
pimp in the world is fucked up about her, do you look at her and be like, oh, I could see
why?
Or you're like, what the fuck is going on?
this is who y'all fucked up about
respectfully bro
chat just tell me
let's be like you're not act you tweaking gang not like
shit I set my paycheck now
bro I'm looking at this I'm like yo
bro I'm gonna need y'all rappers to start getting back
with the bad bitches like these builder bitches
look they look crazy
if you if you trick in or you doing whatever
just to disanness because that happens in the industry
niggas like fucking behind
each other so they really beefing and they
like oh that's your bitch oh I could get her
I bet you really compete with a nigga
but like if this is
if y'all tell me if I get to
the end of the rainbow make a billion dollars
and this is the bitch I gotta stick
my dick in I'm good
I think I'll take my little couple
millions and I'll stay right right here
I don't need to get a billion if this is
what's at the end of the rainbow I'm good
I'm good bro
so I'm watching like these rappers I'm like
this not even a bad bitch like I just had to
keeping a hundred with y'all one time it's not even a bad bitch we're talking about no the suspect
the sauce i know it was your girl for a long time but i'm keeping a hundred yo she one of them chicks
like you don't want you be like yo you got three threes and then on she one of the threes type shit like
why we over here like we really over here talking about like like she acting like yeah drake on my
body this nigga on my body i'm like are we serious what the fuck is going on bro chat could you
tell me a rapper that actually fucks bad bitches?
Like, because I ain't gonna lie.
It's getting disgusting.
We've seen a little baby fucking damn near a cracket.
He pays 16 bands.
But it's little baby.
He's a fucking trick.
Who are the rappers?
Like, respectfully, I'm sick of this shit, man.
I'm about to cut this shit off.
This shit is disgusting to me.
Who are the rappers who actually fuck bad bitches?
Because I'm tired of the butterface.
Like, yo, this chick, even for a white chick,
she don't even go to the top of the...
Or maybe it's because I don't like BBL bitches like that.
Maybe it's because I'm like,
it's probably because I don't like a BBL bitch like that,
man named, I'm going to lie to you.
I've heard Stefan Diggs like his bitches actually look good.
But then I heard Stefan Diggs's bottom pussy too.
I heard Stefan Dix buying pussy.
Oh, I could say now, I might be a little bit late.
They say James Harden is the number one draft pick.
They say he's the number one in the world at purchasing pussy.
Facts.
They told me they said that thing would pay $500,000 for six holes,
just to fuck them for the night.
I'm like, what?
No, the weekend, I think.
Weekend.
I'm like, what?
They said when James Harden come calling,
they said James Harder in Houston
is like a match made of heaven, brother.
Does he play for the Rockers?
No, you don't play for the Rockets.
They said when James Harder is in Houston,
nigga, he's the number one Mount Rutman.
No, it's not even Rushmore.
The Mount Trickmore.
They said James Hardin don't even want a pussy
if he's free.
You want to pay for him.
Dead ass.
That's what they told me.
They said, him, baby.
They said, these are the tricking,
niggins of like they're in a trip bag constantly.
That's what they told me, gang.
Somebody said, now that snitching,
I'll go, fuck about baby, nigga.
They said, baby, one of the serial purchase of Ponani,
nigga, that's what's happening.
Nick, we seen baby, though.
He was offering these bidsches, don't type of.
You ain't see baby on a goddamn FaceTime call to him.
I'll send me the picture before I send you the cash trap.
Come on, bro.
But I'm telling you, they, like, listen, Drake,
I guess he up there.
They say James Hardin,
they're running through that NBA contract
like it's going out of style.
The way they were telling me about James Hardin,
I googled how much James Hardin made in the NBA.
How much
how much money
James Harden made in the NBA?
And it showed me like 400 million.
Oh, $3.74 million?
I'm like, okay.
All right.
I'm like, all right, so send three of those millions
to like Sauce Walker?
Yeah, that's how I look that
I'm like, all right, so it's like three of the
millions that he made
sent it to Sauce Walker
and then like maybe
4 million to another Pimp
Yeah!
They say, yo,
yo, niggas told me
they say, bro, I wish that
that would have told me this before
they said, nigga, we knew
James Hardin couldn't focus on no
playoffs, nigger.
He getting his pockets,
yo, you know how they didn't run your pockets
on the court, they steal the ball?
He said, man, he was getting his pockets
ran in.
in fucking Houston, nigga?
Like, what?
Why you ain't telling me?
I want to bet on the nigga.
It's like, yo, bro.
We were running his pockets in Houston already.
And I ain't going to lie.
That nigga lost the playoffs.
I've seen that nigga in a Houston club recently.
I'm like, oh, man.
Look, this shit is crazy, man.
They said James Hardin is the number one.
He's like the Michael Jordan.
James Hardin.
And I don't want nobody telling me shit neither.
Remember when Meat Mill said he was mad at me?
Meat Mill said he was mad at me
Because supposedly, remember when 6'9 pulled up on him at that restaurant?
You know when I talked to Meek and we was squashing our beef?
Meek told me that James Hardin said that he heard that Ack set it up.
So James Hardin was talking about me.
So, nigga, I'm exposing that niggas James Saw.
Nick is the biggest trick I've heard, nigga.
Facts!
Naga, I read that nigga spend $500,000, nigga.
I'm like, holy!
$500 for six holes.
apparently the rules was you give you a phone at the door
and when you get in there you got to fuck any
nigga or anybody they say you got to fuck
but it was six bitches
500 grand
that's some tricking
how much money he made again
yeah I got to make this type of money
somebody said that's legal
what fuck are you talking about man
alright let's get to this Drake story man
I could imagine
that would be tough
did he talk about Drake a lot
um yeah
ever since
my relationship with him and that was two years ago you know ever since that happened
almost every conversation I have about I have with him with my baby daddy he mentions
Drake in one way or another if I ask him and I'm like hey can you give me some money for
splash so I can you know pay for his daycare this month your child is named splash for the
record splash yes okay um um
No, call Drake.
He can do it.
Yo, I know y'all trying to make sauce look bad.
But if my baby mama is a whore who is happy that she met Drake in front of me and try to fuck him, let Drake pay all our bills, nigga, the fuck?
Like, what do you think I'm...
Yes.
I'm sorry.
I don't look at sauce bad at all for this.
Yes, I wouldn't give you a dollar.
Niggins, let Drake do it.
The fuck is you talking about?
I'm sorry.
Like, wait, is that bad?
I'm not
Oh word
Okay
All right
So you did your big one
You fuck Drake
You got the Mayback
Cool
So and you still want me
To give you money
For our kid
No I'm good
Send the kid over here
If the kid needs something
I'll pay when the kid
Come over here
But when the kid with you
Have Drake send that fucking money bitch
Facts
I'm sorry bro
Like
Right
Yeah
Come on bro
First of all like
You can't even compete
With drink money anyway
So he was really
But heard about that one
Yeah
90% of our conflict at this moment is because of Drake.
And I'm like,
what happened two years ago?
Get over it.
Like, why are you so,
why do you have your nuts in a twist over this man so badly?
Like,
do you want to go for him?
Yeah.
You know?
These chicks are delusional.
Why do you have kids with a nigger if you want him to,
you know,
not care that you fuck,
you're fucking his op.
And you're fucking his op,
pillow talking,
doing all his other shit.
Wow.
If that's what you want to do, then, you know, shoot a shot.
His whole persona he puts out there is like he's so, so player that he couldn't possibly
care about what another man has going on.
And it's like, from the outside looking in, it seems like you're pretty tender over
Drizzi, haven't had any kind of association with one of your baby mamas.
And mind you, he, Drake has done more for me than my baby daddy has ever done since the moment
I've met him.
So let's just make that
This is where Drake wins
Yo, like respectfully
Drake don't want this dusty bitch
Like I'm gonna keep it up being with your bitch
You got a kid with sauce walker gang
Like respectfully like
Drake don't want you nigga
Like you're not
Like my nigga I'm sorry
You might not even get invited
To the OVO party in Houston gang
Like it's over
Like you got cracked a couple times
Because Drake wanted to show your nigga
Something
Now you're on a podcast
Shitin' on your nigga
You have a permanent baby
With your nigga
Drake don't want you again like it's over like he's dang cracking a couple years like now you're just over here just
Dick around him and shit on you the father of your child for no reason and the only person you got to deal with for life is the father of your child
Matter of fact the car you got from Drake your father your child broke it already
busted it up so you don't even got the car no more
So now you're just dick around a nigger that don't want you never really wanted you
He just was trying to fuck you to make your boyfriend or your
baby daddy feel away and now you're you're gassed over it now you're trying to expose him
thinking that the fuck is she gonna get out of this
financially he's just been willing to sound like drake's girlfriend nigga i'm getting i'm
actually co-sounding sauce on this are you dumb i'm coson and sauce on it's like you bro
bitches are stupid Drake don't want this fucking scallywack you're shitting on your baby daddy
sauce walker i don't care if he's broke this and third that's your baby daddy you got to do with him for the rest of your life
you're on a podcast looking like a goof drake ain't buying you no more cars your shit is like it's a dub for you
and now you're shitting on your baby daddy because whatever shit and i don't get what you're getting out of it
you get what i'm saying so really i'm looking at this like i don't care even if sauce walker is broke
like bro you're shitting on if i'm sauce walker now bro i'm putting you through hell for the next 16
whatever, I don't know how old they kids.
For the next 18 years, nigger, you're going through hell.
Because here's the thing.
I'm telling you, Drake don't want his bitch.
So now you're shitting on your baby daddy and his image of being a pimp.
Now you're trying to like kill his whole way of making money.
If I'm him, I definitely ain't give you another dime.
You got to put me on child support.
Fuck you, nigger.
Go get that shit from Drake.
And he just obviously treated me better.
just normal conversations
never called me out my name
my baby daddy
I can't even get $100 out of you
without pulling some fucking teeth
Wow
Yeah because like that's one thing
I had Chromeaz on here
A couple months ago
And you know
I brought up Drake
And she just had absolutely nothing
But good things to say about him
And that really said
Yo that's one thing
You know
Well obviously Drake don't talk about it
Is Escapades
but that's one thing I've heard about Drake
Drake is the type of nigger
and I do adopt this though
Yo fellas
Only when you broke
You could be on some like
Oh I'm gonna kick a bitch out the car
I'm gonna kick her out
Bro when you got some money
And you got some real shit to lose
Make sure a girl don't leave your crib
Or you don't end the situation with her
Without her being somewhat happy
Just take the L
You gotta take the L
You got to take the L
You know what I mean
Because if you make a chick feel bad
she's coming back with a lawsuit
she's trying to set you with all type of shit
one thing I realized about Drake
Drake rather you call him a sim right
like oh he left you with the penthouse
he left you with the car
right
you're not gonna have nothing bad to say about him
because he like
he took the L
now if he was a nigger like obviously he took
that one girl car back but I think she even got it back
but if he was on some shit like nah man
I ain't about to shit I'm about
to like terrorize his chick like
they would have all type of things to say about him,
but you could tell, like, he's keeping it cool.
Like, all right, whatever.
Like, if I gave you, like, let's say give a bitch a hundred thousand.
He's not going to be like, bitch, I gave you my hundred thousand.
How could you fuck another nigger?
Yo.
And, like, put the girl through hell.
You could tell you, like, you got to learn to take the L.
Like, you got to like, all right, bitch.
She did some bullshit.
Fuck it.
That's why I know girls to say nothing bad about him,
because he's taking the L.
It's out to me that, like,
for being a bit of a playboy who's obviously been associated with a lot of girls over the years,
you really don't hear any of them have anything bad to say about him
yeah nothing bad to say about him right he's a great human by the way that's a good thing too
because you got to think about it when it's like drake's like you don't want to
you don't want to you don't want people saying bad things about you because then you're going
to get somebody who think a lawsuit is worthy you know we don't see no losses about
Drake yeah you know if you have anything bad to say about him you're just a hater
wow yeah yeah i mean i feel like he
One or another, he has mastered the art of not leaving a girl unhappy, which I think is a very useful thing because we all know what it's like when a girl's upset at the end of a relationship or at the end of a period of time speaking to somebody or whatever.
So I don't know what the fuck is secret sauces in that regard, but he definitely seems like he always leaves like a pretty good impression on the girls he deals with.
Yeah, he does for sure.
for sure um so okay like when did he find out that you were spending time with drake like
i think he knew almost immediately from the party okay yeah wow yeah and then i remember the next
day i woke up to him sending me a text message saying i'm sorry and i love you let's you know
make this work for splash and do what we need to do for splash and i just remember laughing at
my phone like you're fucking pathetic you're only doing this because you saw me at drake's party
right that's it okay as far as like as men how would you compare sauce to drake like who's more
of a man or who's like the the better dude overall from your perspective i'll be 100% hands down
drake why like if on a scale Drake would be up here and my baby daddy would be on the floor
Oh my God
That's rough
Yeah
And I hate to say it
I wish I chose better
Yeah
I wish I was a little smarter
And not so naive
You're so young too
You know as
You know
A young female
At that time
But it is what it is
And you know
Everyone makes mistakes
Yo listen
And this is coming from a Drake fan
Bro
Like you know
Cool
Like
I'm glad she's not shitting
On Drake
But she
She poping it
On her baby daddy
Like
Drake going white
for my nigga like bro
Drake don't want you
you're back to deal with your baby
daddy you're just shitting on him for no reason right now
you know what I mean like
it's not like she's like oh I'm I'm
gonna deal with Drake
Drake don't want her ass
she is basically just shitting on her baby daddy
using Drake because I'm only
human right
so okay then there was
a clip where I was on the
podcast with whack
I think and I was speaking
about Sauce sending me all these deranged text messages.
And I was basically, like, I didn't say any details, but I sort of said, like, listen,
Drake told me a little bit of information about Sauce and his baby mama's.
And let me just tell you, there's some crazy shit going on.
Like, that's all I said.
I left it open-ended.
I didn't want to, like, really divulge any information.
And I didn't really think anybody would give a fuck about me saying that.
But that right there sent him into fucking orbit.
Wow.
That's when everything, it just, from that moment forward, things just, I never heard the end of it.
The phone call I got after those text messages, whew, lordy lord.
What was it like?
Just, you're a fucking Drake, you fucking bitch.
Da-da-da-da-da-da.
They're fucking laughing at me, Adam 22.
It just was never ending.
Right. And I was like, oh my God, here we go.
And he just recently had a clip that came out online where he said like,
because you leaked like a phone call that was like right after that or whatever.
And he basically was like, I wasn't mad at her for fucking with Drake.
I was mad about the fact that Drake and Adam were pillow talking about me
using information that was gained from you.
I don't know exactly what information that you are talking about.
I never really spoke too much about my baby daddy with Drake.
And to be totally real,
Drake didn't really tell me that much crazy shit either.
Yeah, because our conversation,
our relationship was not based around him.
So your time spent with Drake was not spent talking about Soss Waka,
but your time with Soswaka at that point became primarily about talking about Drake.
Jesus Christ, that's diabolical.
It is diabolical.
And he thinks my whole relationship with him was all about
my baby daddy
and it it was nothing about
maybe we had one or two
conversations about him
you know but it was nothing like
in depth or
anything serious or I didn't give him any
tea on my baby daddy or
anything like that it was
you know
yeah I mean honestly if I had to like
summarize the gist of what Drake told me
about him it was basically like
he don't got money like that
and this whole like cool player persona is cap.
He's like a psycho.
He still calls me to this day asking me for money.
Really?
Yes.
And I'm like, dude, why?
But you have control of your only fans now, I would assume?
Yeah, for sure.
And all of my money.
And mind you, I have grown and evolved and I'm so much better now that I'm not in his life.
And he sees that.
And he's like, calls me.
He's like, hey, can I get $30,000?
And I'm like, for what, dude?
Like, go buy some fucking diapers.
30,000?
Yeah.
Like, why would you need to borrow $30,000?
That's what I say.
What the fuck?
I thought you have $22 million.
Yeah, and he's, like, taking pictures with, like,
looks like many hundreds of thousands or like a million dollars in cash and shit,
which is kind of weird.
Like, why do you have a million dollars in cash?
I don't know if, like, the IRS would take interest in that or anything, but.
I don't know
But
I hope so
One thing I'm learning though
Is that even though
All them niggas
Like even sauce Waka and them niggas
That'd be you know
Talking that pim shit
Bro they suffer from the same thing like us
Bro at the end of the day
We all
Are susceptible to your ex-girl
Or your baby mama
Or your girlfriend who's mad
Getting online and make you looking like a fool
Most of the time
She's hurt way more than you
she's capping too
but she knows how to get to you
she's trying to make you look bad in the media
and I think a lot of pimped
niggas love to act like
you know what I mean when they see other niggas going through
publicly they're nah that could never happen to me
like nah bitches don't play with me
no they're women
women play with everybody bro
that's what it is so everybody goes to it
you would like to see him get audited
he needs to
damn I don't want to like speak that into existence
But they do like a hotline where you like tell the IRS to investigate people and they'll like reward you.
Oh, really?
I don't know.
It's just an idea.
I wouldn't do that.
But I'll let someone else handle that.
Yeah, I wouldn't do that.
But damn.
So, okay, because in that call too, he says I will get Drake's car shot up.
That was kind of surprised to me because that's like a whole different level.
Like, damn, you like.
Well, that's how he speaks to me on a daily basis.
Just the constant threat.
of violence? Constant threats, whether he follows through with them or doesn't, but it's constant
threats, constant intimidation. And I'm like, there's me, I could, there's nothing I can do to a man,
you know, like I could slap you, maybe owl that hurts, but I can't hurt you the way you can
hurt me. So yeah, I'm being scared. Yeah, I'm going to, okay, I'm going to back down and be quiet
and do what you want. But yeah, that's constant. I don't think he would actually do anything to
Drake because Drake moves like the fucking president of the United States, you can't get through
to him. Right. You know, like even if you wanted to. That's what I was thinking is kind of funny about
the idea of shooting of Drake's car is like, well, if anybody's got a bulletproof whip and not to
mention like a bunch of fucking security around him and all this other shit. Yeah. Let's be serious.
Like you can't get through to him. He has his security is like Donald Trump's security.
Let's be for all. Yeah. Do you hear this story about like sauce pulling up on Drake?
while Drake was like out with a girl.
Yeah, I think that was like in 2007.
So that wasn't you?
Oh, this is back in the day.
Yeah.
Oh, okay, okay.
Because when Act told that story,
I was like eight years old, yeah.
Oh, okay, because Act told that story and he said that like Drake didn't have security
with him too.
So I guess that would make sense, like, very early in his career.
But I don't think Drake wasn't on in 2007, I don't think.
I don't think he was like famous until maybe 2008 or something.
But that period of time.
Yeah, I think it was that period of time.
I think, yeah, like 2007.
And yeah, I did hear about that situation.
Drake would no security in 2008 or nine would be believable, I guess.
Yeah, he's just kind of getting started.
But damn, so that's insane to think that it goes back that far.
Yeah.
And honestly, I think the whole beef from my whole understanding and my perspective is I think he was just really mad that Drake didn't give him a feature.
And then from also my understanding is Drake never said no to the feature.
It's just he wasn't going to do it on his on sauce walker's time.
Right.
And then got mad whenever he didn't get it, whenever he wanted it on the song that he wanted it on and pulled up on him and did whatever he did.
And then now I think at that point, Drake is like, fuck you, dude.
Right.
I'm not giving you shit now.
Yeah.
I mean, anytime you're dealing with somebody who's like important being pulled in a million
in different directions, et cetera.
Like when I talk to Drake, it's like, wow, I think it's cool that you're even like,
that you even trust me to even tell me anything that you got going on or whatever.
I'm not like, you know, vying for like, oh, you got to give me a look.
Like, let me, let me do this.
Like, help me on this way or whatever.
It's like if you're going to, you know, give me any kind of opportunity or whatever,
that's great, but I'm not going to be being thirsty and rushing it or asking for it or
whatever.
I mean, look at, look at, act was not glazing, standing, being a huge fan of Drake for like,
you know, 10 plus years and Drake eventually, you know, like flew him out, took him out to eat,
all this kind of stuff, whatever, like gave him like a moment that obviously was like hugely
advantageous to Act's career, but probably that wouldn't happen if Act was like being thirsty
and like, you know, begging him for a look, you know?
And also my baby daddy just, I feel like he has such a point to prove that he's this big,
tough guy.
And then I felt like that's what he was trying to do to Drake in that moment by pulling up on him.
and trying to intimidate him.
And I don't think Drake is the type of guy to get intimidated.
Right.
You know, I don't think you can punk him into doing what you want him to do.
Yeah, because he doesn't even give that.
I think Sauce, like, it's so important to him that he be like the toughest dude, the richest dude, etc.
And then when he's faced with like his baby mama spending time with a dude who,
without question, has more money than you and you can't do anything physical to him or whatever,
where he's just kind of left like floundering.
Yeah.
And then my whole thing is, is like, if he, quote unquote, sent me, like he said he did, right?
Mm-hmm.
Why are you, why is your ass tight about a car that he bought me?
Right.
Why are you so upset about it?
Wouldn't you be happy?
Like, woo-hoo, we just got a free Mayback.
Right.
Because that's how he tries to paint it as like, look, I sent my girls to get this money and
these possessions.
out of Drake and then I'm spending that money or that I'm driving these cars, etc., which, like,
from a pimp perspective, I guess that would be admirable, but obviously that's like the only
thing that he can say.
And then when we hear the phone calls, I think you're like, the bubble pops and you realize,
like, oh, that's absolutely not what happened.
Right.
Yeah, it's not what happened at all.
He was very intimidated by it, I think, and upset because, mind you, my baby daddy has never
bought me a car.
Honestly, I've probably gone through three or four cars dealing with him because he destroyed every single last one of them.
He'll just like fuck your car up when he's angry.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Don't get me wrong.
I got him back a few times.
I'm not perfect.
Okay.
I'm not here to claim that I am.
But yeah, for sure.
Right.
Because that's another thing that you posted is that the girl that he's with now, the redhead chick, I forget her name, but she's like a white girl with red hair, redhead sweetheart or some shit.
is her Instagram.
You posted photos of her.
That she posted on Instagram.
Oh,
so she did post those before
where he had like beating her up
or got her jumped as well.
Was that eye-opening for you to realize?
Like, oh, shit, this is just what he's doing?
No, because I knew.
That's what he was doing.
I mean, I can't be the only one going through it,
you know?
And, you know, I just knew,
I already knew.
I've dealt with it and she's been around longer than I was.
Right.
So and the few times me and her have been together in, you know, person and when we were trying to get along.
Because a lot of times he would pin us up against each other.
She does this and you do this and she does this and she does this.
And it was a lot of, he would make us almost be in competition with each other.
So the few times that we did try to get along and get together in person, we, you know, exchanged a lot of stories with one another.
Really?
Yeah.
Anything stand out about what she's been through?
I'm not going to speak on her story.
That's for her to tell.
And if she wants to, that's on her.
But I'm not going to speak on her.
I can only speak about myself.
But yeah, she's a lot of similar things.
Because she hit me up a couple times.
And not like, she hit me up.
I think to like tell me shit about him.
Shut the fuck up.
Right.
It is not coming off for any.
And he wanted to flex on me that he got his strip club back
by exposing him on the phone.
Like, well, you do this and you buy three Chanel bags.
And, you know, basically going against everything that he says he is,
you're tricking.
Right.
And I was like, oh, so you are a trick.
Yo, chat.
This is burnt baby mama shit, bro.
Like, I'm not even getting sausage size.
This is just facts.
She admits early in the interview,
when she first started OnlyFans, he took all her money.
That's pimps shit.
Like, he took all her money.
He's never given, she says she can't get $100 out of him.
She claims he gives her nothing.
And then now, he's talking about him buying a bag for a girl,
and she's like he's tricking.
You're dealing with a selfish pimp, my nigga.
She got pimped.
She's even admitting that he was literally bringing,
You were sending girls with tricks.
Like, yeah, two things could be true.
I think Drake used hers upon.
Bro, she looked mid.
Drake just wanted to fuck Sauce Walker's baby mom.
Make him feel like a dummy.
Like, yo, bro, you can't fuck with me, nigga.
I'm too rich.
I could drop $2 million on your baby mama.
She's going, nigga.
You're going to look like a fucking dweeb
because she's going to do whatever I want.
So that's my beef with you.
We know Drake do that to everybody.
And she thinks she's winning.
She's not.
And Salswaka, like, Salswaka is like, bro, he's not pain for nothing.
He's over here just kind of hustling and finessing.
It's not a win that this is the only loss Salswaka got is that this is baby moms.
But is he like pimping and shit like that?
Clearly he is.
He pimping.
Drake doing what he do, but Drake, Drake, win, is, yo, I'm fucking with my op.
My op, no, I could fuck his baby mom whenever I want to, nigga.
It is what it is.
Let me see.
Yeah, maybe one of a second.
Chat, you're going to hate me to this.
I'm getting on stream.
I got to go.
I have, it's supposed to be a big interview.
It's supposed to be on stream.
I'm so mad, actually.
It was supposed to be an on-stream interview.
And just because it's like, go watch the playoff game.
I got to go do an interview, though.
But it's a good one.
It's a good one.
That's got to make you.
Last minute they come back.
back to me and they're making a stink about it being live.
And just because I'm not trying to fuck it up, I'm going to get off live to just, like, do it.
But it's going to be good.
It's going to be good.
Just, it's going to be good.
All right.
I got to go do, I'm telling you, no, no, I got to go do an interview that the person, at first it was supposed to be live.
So I wasn't going to tell y'all.
I was going to do it.
I was going to bring the person on.
But then it came back.
I don't want to exactly tell.
Everything, but like, they came back to us with a bunch of stuff.
Then they were like, oh, could it not be live?
And then we're like, it was, I thought you hit us up for it to be live.
Ah, da-da-da-da-da-da, because it blah, blah, blah.
So it was supposed to be at 11.
There's a whole call set up.
I'm about to join the call.
I was going to do it on stream again, but.
Chat.
Go watch that.
