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Episode Date: April 29, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Holy chat, we're in the building, man. Wake up with Big Act, the Big Act morning show. Big Act in the morning. Shout to the breakfast club, but we doing shit. Happy hour with Act. We're not doing none of that morning shit. We're going to keep it like, I'm already, I ain't wrong on. I'm kind of feeling it.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I hit some shots real quick. I don't know if I know. It's like, I don't know if, do you ever think I fake poor, be honest? There's no way you think that, right? Because y'all probably like, You can see it has an effect, right? Anyway, a couple shots in, I didn't start drinking before stream. So I woke up, got my dogs, right?
Starting point is 00:00:39 And I was just like, fuck. I got to wait till tonight to stream. And I'm like, I know they're mad about last night. Fuck. All right. Let me just, you know, this is what I'm going to do. This is my plan today. Stream for three hours, bang out mad content, give them a little morning show.
Starting point is 00:00:53 By the way, I don't know if you guys, am I live everywhere yet? I don't know if you guys would want me to stream in the morning. You know, we kind of like do later day, night. But I remember when I used to, like, streaming was kind of underground for me. I used to stream at any time. I used to get on 3 a.m. That's the beauty of streaming to me. Streaming is not on some, like, regiment and shit.
Starting point is 00:01:13 It's like, if I could pop on at 3 a.m., that's what we're at. So, anyway, I'm like, you know what, let me see what this is hitting for. Let's do a little morning joint. Let's test it out. I know my promises have been a little bit weak recently, so I do still plan to come back later for another five-hour stream, our regular. But a little three-hour right now, I think, you know, there's some topics from yesterday
Starting point is 00:01:35 that I see, like, is out, and we didn't cover. So, you know, we're missing in action. So that's why we're here. Okay. Oh, y'all want to be stuck with y'all all day? Y'all won't even be stuck with me for all day. As soon as I get to lunch, first of all, I'm entertaining most of y'all.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Some of y'all go to works. Child to the, you know, my Forklift workers. My blue-collar workers, thank you all for doing your thing. But if you go to work right now You got me playing in the background As soon as you get to work You know you've been trying to fuck that girl That works in like the same department as you
Starting point is 00:02:08 So you cut me off, nigga Like you're not even listening after that point You're trying to mac to her the whole day Shout out to all my people who go to work And really to keep it real At this point it's not that you don't care about your job But the job is like automatic But that one bad bitch that they hired
Starting point is 00:02:24 That's you You want her every day. She'd tell you about her man. You're doing your thing. You're the work husband. Fuck it. You take your lunch with her. You feel what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? You act like you're going to teach her some shit. Whole time
Starting point is 00:02:42 you're trying to wait for her and her man and start beefing that you can fuck. Facts. I was working at Verizon. That was me. Yeah, work husband is a dangerous nigga, man. Dangerous nigga. Yo, what's going to y'all? All right, bet. Anyway, so we're going to get to a couple of topics. Again, top of the morning. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. I'm glad to have you guys here.
Starting point is 00:03:04 If you are on YouTube, this might be a little bit unexpected because usually don't go live at this time, but, you know, there's never no time like the present. Somebody said, Iceman, oh, forget it. Yo, there's no honorable work husband. Yo, there's no. Somebody said, that's some snake shit. Yo, every guy who works with a bad bitch and put it like this, you spend eight hours with her. This is the thing about a girl having a job.
Starting point is 00:03:41 let's say she works with you she's spending eight hours with you remember she's going to sleep for another eight hours there's only eight hours left in a day and two and a half of that or maybe two hours that's her commute she barely got time to spend with her nigga so really you saucing her up in her ear
Starting point is 00:03:59 all the time you know what I mean like you pretty much only talk to her during work hours but you might send her a text you know off hours like hey you've seen this this is what we were talking about at lunch whole time it's like prison. You know, like when you work a job, it's kind of like,
Starting point is 00:04:14 when I mean prisons, like it indoctrinates you to think about people and situations like, the ugly fat bitch who looks like Mrs. Pearl in a prison probably is a bad bitch to the thing is in prison.
Starting point is 00:04:26 You don't see nothing else. Our minds, our like, you know, mentality or psyche, we adjust to what's in front of us. So when you at work all the time, Shorty probably is seven,
Starting point is 00:04:36 you probably wouldn't holler at our, when you in your bag, you got a section with the homies in the club, you're not hollering at your work wife. But at work, a bunch of old men, a bunch of, you know, saggy tits old chicks. And that new chick right there, she started looking more attractive.
Starting point is 00:04:52 So you've been saucing her up, putting game in her ear, eight hours a day all the time. Y'all start coordinating schedules. All right, we're going to go eat. What, what you like? You realize she's a Chipotle bitch. You're like, all right, it ain't need you a favor, but fuck it.
Starting point is 00:05:07 y'all start having your own relationship where y'all talk shit about other employees on lunchtime of course you're that much closer to fucking her that's it whole time her man at home working another job he probably doing the same thing with somebody else but yo that's that's the reason why you got to stay in front of your girl anyway we'll get to it uh welcome people welcome welcome i see them yo people are shocked on YouTube. Like, oh, what the fuck? Is this pre-recorded? Is Act really live? I'm going to drop some hints on y'all, chat. This is only for us. I don't think we got any outsiders here.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Yo, chat. Actually, let me look at it. I'm telling y'all now. Give me a second. Oh, wait. What the fuck? Chat. Seven days, we're going to pop our shit. Just rock with me. I know I'm being very veing. seven days we're going to pop our shit, all right? You know, just, it's okay. We're going to get there. Okay, yeah, Vlad's on a villain arc.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Chat, I do want to ask a question. Am I responsible for the white boys in media? They're violating all the black folks. And I'm now conflicted, chat. I am. Because, yes, Vlad is my counterpart. He's an OG of the space that I am fortunately one of the leaders in the independent media space,
Starting point is 00:06:53 shout to my nigga Adam, he's up here. But I gotta be honest. I gotta be honest. While I'm all for independent media rights, independent media popping out shit, I started that. I mean, Vlad even tell you, I'd be like, yo, I start responding to niggas
Starting point is 00:07:09 because I seen you treating these rappers. Sorry. Vlad told me that. Yo, act, I start responding to these niggas because I've seen you treating them. I'm like, yo, it's not even me treating them. I just come with facts. I come with facts
Starting point is 00:07:22 I said act You put a fire under me Pause That's pause Adam told me that too Adam said you act When you said you big act I said fuck it
Starting point is 00:07:34 Well I'm big 22 I said I can't knock it I can't knock it You know me When I'm influential I don't you know It's all good Everybody should do anything
Starting point is 00:07:43 But I'm going to be honest It's getting to a saturation point You're my two white boys in media they kind of, they're pushing around, they wait, they hoeing these niggins. I haven't gone out of you. Like, they hoeing these niggins. And I'm like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Did I create monsters? Adam, he's on violation time. I don't like what he, the conversation you have with whack, that was crazy. Then I'm listening to Vlad. Yo, Vlad had me interview him. Like, I did six hours of content with him,
Starting point is 00:08:15 like maybe five. And I interviewed him for the first, like, hour. A lot of Arian spirit shit I thought he's gonna keep a light All of a sudden like I'm interviewing him Vlad get to a part Vlad popping it Vlad, man fuck Ari Spirit
Starting point is 00:08:28 I'm like oh Oh Vlad is firing Vlad don't give two fucks no more He's on timing And I'm starting to think I'm like Is this Frankenstein Did I create a fucking monster
Starting point is 00:08:43 Because the two white dudes Who used to be like You know because they were white they were kind of shamed into like this subsection of hip hop and again the good thing one thing i give both of them credit in i don't think no one's looking at them and calling them racist right because that's always the fear for them like oh they're white dudes in hip hop if they respond that's why vlad never responded Vlad would let you say whatever about him because
Starting point is 00:09:07 Vlad was like i'm a white guy i can't really like you know i can't go at it with a black guy now Vlad is like yo people know i love black people i ain't got done i got these facts Vlad is on everybody's ass. Vlad made Boosy look crazy. The Ares spirit, go watch the interview. I'm going to share the shit in a bit. I was trying to stick up for Aries Spears in a certain sense
Starting point is 00:09:31 because, you know, I kind of understand maybe the mentality you might be coming from. Vlad is hitting a nigga with the guillotine. And I'm like, oh, shit. Vlad is not the same Vlad that's timid, that's going to be like, you know, tiptoeing. Like, I know this guy could, you know, because that's what Vlad used to feel.
Starting point is 00:09:50 If you responded to these guys with logic, they would come back and say you're racist. And I actually gave him credit off camera. I said, yo, these days you're being so transparent, you're putting all the shit out there that no one could believe the racism or whatever other angles they could come back with. People are going to be like, bro, you're getting $25,000.
Starting point is 00:10:10 He can't hate black people if he's giving you $25,000, right? Bro, you're getting $25,000 for two hours. 10,000 an hour, I think you're okay. And I'm just kind of watching him. Usually I'm in beef. Nobody won't smoke with me no more. Nobody wants smoke with me. Little Baby is the last one.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And by the way, chat, I want to give you an update on Little Baby. Hey, I'm burning through a budget. I've clocked it right now at $300,000. Little Baby's paying for every little good promo, and I see it. And I keep telling you like, listen, I pioneered an interest in space. I know when money's going around. Little baby's running every campaign. Oh, look, little baby popped up on this person.
Starting point is 00:10:54 He's giving away bags. Oh, look. Yo, they ran the most pathetic campaign. I was about to expose it, but like, it's a conflict of interest. I'm going to tell you what. Because his boss that makes money off baby, like baby's a slave.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Like everybody pimping baby, right? Like, politeness. When it comes to the rapper, the rapper's getting pimped always. I'm the media guy. I don't pay baby. His team pays me. I've never paid him a dollar.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I get money from him. So like he's a slave. But P's my man and P is his boss. So P's getting money from him. I usually get money from him. So when he's like doing whatever, I just got,
Starting point is 00:11:31 I just felt away because I'm like, let me tell you this. And this was any rapper. We could do the lip service shit back and forth. Once you think you, you want some tough, you could take it in real life and knock a set niggas at you,
Starting point is 00:11:45 now I'm going to play the dirtiest game possible. And I don't know if you're down to play that game because that game, the only response you have to do with that, you got to kill me. Because I'm going to play a game in my result in jail for you. I'm definitely going to kill your career.
Starting point is 00:11:59 So anyway, after I've announced that, you know, since I, in my personal belief, Baby has sent niggas at me or his little assistant. His team has started this PR thing and I'm watching them to spend money. So they're spending money to like keep his image up and chat trust me this is how promo works so i'm watching i'm like okay
Starting point is 00:12:22 cool and obviously they're not paying me they wouldn't pay me now because remember i told you they accidentally paid me and i was like this is hilarious did y'all really pay me but they have now kind of figured it out but they're they're cutting checks and here's here's my job i did this to meek mill and i'm gonna do it to baby too if i could bleed a million or two out of your budget that's what you're going to know my worth was for you disrespecting. A million to two for you to even... You can't go against that, nigga.
Starting point is 00:12:54 There's a lot of rappers who don't like me, but they act like they like me. If you're going to go against me and make it me versus you, I'm going to put the scale in the other direction that your label is going to have to spend a million dollars. And for me, I'm going to be honest with you, to me, that's worth it.
Starting point is 00:13:12 If you had to spend a million dollars because you disrespected me, that tells me how much of an idiot you are because you could have been respectful not been a backdoor you could have you know try to have a personal relationship and i wouldn't be saying nothing about you that would be qualifying that certain things because me i don't got a sugarcoat i'm gonna tell niggas y'all know i'm i'm saying the shit same with meg even now and people like you'll stay out of woman's business your mega had me cool for 10 hours like oh you really think i'm gonna stay out of her bit nigger i got me and me and me could go to war in court i don't know
Starting point is 00:13:46 What type of money these niggas told my mom? Let's get to it. I'm not scared of cool with none of these holes. The point is this. Me, like, let's say Meg. Meg has made it where now, I'm going to be honest with you, I never really gave a fuck about me. I don't like her music.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I always just thought she was on some whole shit. Like, but many girls on whole shit. That's what the female thing is. Once I've seen she was like trying to take aim at me, oh, of course. I took it personal. I take it personal now. So now when I see a day like Clay Thompson
Starting point is 00:14:25 Chat, what do you think I dropped? I thought I dropped 64 points on Meg. 64, that's it, 64. I still got an 85 pointer. I got an 85 pointer. Matter of fact, I think I might drop it today. And that's for everybody who keeps saying, oh, I can't.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Remember the whole, like, a group of people like, oh, she's going to sue you. When I'm done dropping, I'm going to do like Kobe when he had that fucking case when he kept dropping 40 points. I think I'm going to drop, like, Let's cut today. I think I'm going to drop 70 on Meg today.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Again, what the fuck she's going to do? Sue me? She only pick on broke people, nigga. She should have been sued. Drake, Joe, me. She only pick on broke people. She ain't like that. At her ass in court, like,
Starting point is 00:15:10 nigga, I would have had her ass in court crying on a stand clowning her at night. I would have had my lawyers over there. I would have made $2 million off of that shit. She can't fuck with me. All of this, yo, Meg should sue, man. Tell her bitch ass and shut the fuck up. And again, I had no really, no problem with her. the mere fact, what you got with Milagros, you're trying to bully her.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Milagros, respectfully, Milagros ain't big act. Like, you try to fuck with me now. Now I got to play with you. So, yeah, I got a smooth 70. I'm wondering, I could drop the 70 here, or I could drop it on later stream. Because we got to address the fact with Meg the Stallion. What we're not going to do, chat, what we're not going to do. We're not going to let street meat act like they filet mignon.
Starting point is 00:15:57 We can't do it. No. Your shot to my man, Jay Farrell. Me and we talk. Hey, yo, that's facts. Shorty's street meet. She's at the halal cart in motherfucking New York City. The ones where all the rats be at nighttime.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And in a daytime, they serve it like, oh, here's a halal thingy. Nah, nigger, she's street meet. Shorty coming out acting like she's filet mignon. It's a fact. So we're going to put it in perspective. We're going to put it in perspective. And I'm gonna keep it to be in with you As I said
Starting point is 00:16:33 I cover hip hop I kind of move on You know I say my shit Niggins say this shit back But after Meg brought me to court And after the court slapped her in her wrist saying you can't tell people They can't use their freedom of speech You see them tears she had on stage
Starting point is 00:16:47 I scissor I'll make sure you do a lot more of that If you fucking with me Fuck what you got with Milagrosse niggas niggas, niggas, niggas. Court didn't stop it the nigger like me I'm with it You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:59 So anyway, we're going to get to that little victimhood with her. And by the way, I'm not trying to also bully her too, but, you know, I just got to give a little bit taste of medicine. Again, this is my way of paying everybody back. Baby thought that little move was cool. Well, I bet. You know what I think is cool? Bleeding a million and a half out of your budget.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I think that's really cool. What would you do? If a nigga tried to rob baby for a million and a half, what do you think he would do? Watch me do it in the industry. I'm going to force his labor to pay it. Force it. that's how I play I've always played like that
Starting point is 00:17:31 me and meek was going at it meke told me to my face he was like yo they was going to spend an extra million on my album was it wins and losses they said accurately reporter you flopped the narrative is already done let's save the money for some other shit he was typed that's what happens
Starting point is 00:17:46 I play differently so Meg I got something for you girl I'm a bleed job budgets one way or another All right? And trust me, I see it because everybody I pay or my friends. We'll get to it.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Anyway, where did that come from? Iceman soon. Ice man soon. We should do like a regular morning show. Let's do like a regular morning show. This is why morning show suck. You want to know why morning shows suck chat? This is why.
Starting point is 00:18:22 First of all, you hear like 30s. I know we do our intro too. but every time they say something and they're getting into the thick of things right now you're like all right good like i can finally talking i'm excited they're like okay all right cool let's play like five songs you know what i mean like let's listen to this random bruno mars song you're like what the fuck like what i'm like what so you hear like 15 minutes of songs you hear like couple corny commercials and then when you finally think you're about to hear the host because you know whatever they come back with some weird ass shit they're like right so um i'm i'm i'm i'm going to
Starting point is 00:18:55 do right now. I'm going to do. So corning. So over. I'm going to do. At a point, I didn't want to get on radio, so I can't even knock it. But this, it felt like it was the only thing. Oh, right now in New York City, the temperature is 50 degrees. The Holland Tunnel. It is slightly congested. You guys might want to avoid the Tapen Z Bridge. If the Tapen Z Bridge, there's an accident on the first lane and the second lane. You guys might want to take the George Washington Bridge going into the city. if you guys are in Brooklyn, you can see the Verzano. Fuck out of here, man. Let's get straight to it, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Like, you know how I realized this is what's wrong with all these other formats of media. Niggas don't want the fucking filler. Like, they don't want to hear you talk about some niggas come here for the shit. That's it. Let's get to it. Right? So good though. Anyway, Iceman 16 days.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Birthday show. 16 days. Okay? Have y'all cop check tickets? If you're in New York City and you fuck with me and you don't pull up to this, I'm going to be highly perturbed, highly perturbed, okay? I don't care even if you don't got the money to show up. You better just show up outside.
Starting point is 00:20:08 You feel what I'm saying? I might do some where we give away like 10 tickets outside if we have space. I don't know. But y'all niggins me to show the fuck up. Okay, Gramsie Theater. All right. Cool. Let's get to, what should we start with?
Starting point is 00:20:24 Should we start with like the Vlad and Adam thing? We could. I did speak about the whole Trump thing. Did you see the fucking shooter? They got this fucking weirdo. First of all, the niggas black. I was so fucking disappointed. Then I started seeing other shooters.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I mean other pictures of the idiot. And they got the nigger wrapped in foil paper like he's a fucking juicy fruit gum. Like you look like a stick of gum. bum-ass nigger man like you're gonna see like some more um pictures of him his name is cole allen
Starting point is 00:21:15 I felt so disappointed because he had my last name oh this is him was it this him wheelchair college student Cole Allen developed a prototype for a wheelchair emergency break the wheelchair brakes
Starting point is 00:21:33 tend to lock the wheels but don't actually walk the chair to the ground the idea potential to in I still said we should give this nigga death, straight up. By the way, this is an AINAS video of what the fuck he was doing. By the way, also in his manifesto, he writes a scathing letter that criticizes even the Secret Service saying that, hey, how the fuck did they even let me into this so far? Let me give you the breakdown of what happened. Essentially, they have this White House correspondent's dinner at basically a hotel that has a big gallery or ballroom.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And it's not at the White House. So it's a third-party type of establishment or building that's not government. And remember, if you don't know, what the White House correspondent's dinner is, is basically a, it's like a, it's turned into this thing where people are able to roast the president. The president's kind of like able to crack jokes. But it's an interaction and a camaraderie building session with the president of the United States with the press. We all do know in the first Constitution Amendment, like basically you have the right of free speech. It's also the right of the press. It's the reason why there's a press secretary.
Starting point is 00:22:36 It's a reason why they have briefings at the White House. The government wants to inform the people and they do it via the press. So they have this once a year thing. It's called the White House Corresponds dinner. I didn't know that Trump has never attended. Barack used to be a really regular there. He used to take the jokes but also kind of give him because you know Barack is a smooth, smooth operator.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Apparently Trump was going to this thing for the first time. Again, it's not held at the White House. So they pick like a hotel or whatever that's a big ass ballroom and they descend on there. So you have the Secret Service, local police, you have all these ancillary forces that assist Secret Service in making sure the president or any elected officials were going to be there. And it is one of the most dangerous times of the year. I'll tell you why. Because does anyone have Netflix or maybe you watch Netflix on your girls account? There is a show called Designated Survivor, right?
Starting point is 00:23:28 And in that show, it shows that someone was able to kill almost everybody within the government. and supposedly there's a protocol. Like they were at one place. Like they were at one meeting spot and somebody like blew up a bomb or something so everyone died. So if everybody in the government dies, what happens? So apparently there's like a protocol
Starting point is 00:23:46 within the United States, you know, you know, just political scene is called designated survivor. By the way, there's a, as I said, there's a TV show you can watch on Netflix, but supposedly it's a, what's happened is that there's always someone selected out of the cabinet, and they're always chosen to skip major events.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Like, for example, a state of the union where everybody's in the building. So you have the vice. So the chain of command goes this, right? Let's look. Order of succession. Order of succession for U.S. president. So if the president dies, and by the way, this is on the official U.S. government, right? the U.S. website.
Starting point is 00:24:32 So if the president dies, vice president takes, is now the president. If they both die, this person's a president. If all three of them die, it's this person of the, there's somebody called the president pro tempore
Starting point is 00:24:45 of the Senate. They all die, secretary of state, then the treasury, then the defense. And it kind of goes down for a while of who could be the president.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Now, what usually happens is that there's usually what was called a designated, survivor to end it's a protocol that ensures a continuity of continuity I'm sorry of the government in case someone happens something happens where all the top leaders are eliminated at once now remember even the order of succession if most of them are in the building for many major events this is a white house correspondence dinner jd vans is in there that's a vice president if you don't know
Starting point is 00:25:23 the fbi director is in a cash hotel was in the building um pith hexate he's in the building he's in the A lot of people are there. Imagine a bomb went off, God forbid. They usually pick somebody to not show up there, right? And I don't think they announce it. Someone just doesn't show up, right? And that person's a designated survivor. So anyway, they picked this hotel and the Secret Service does his rounds.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I would imagine it has multiple perimeters, maybe like, you know, like they've put like a square radius around a certain amount of blocks. They have all type of checkpoints. they probably have definitely, well, not even probably, definitely have snipers on the ceiling. You know, they probably have some type of anti, like, you know, let's say some, we don't know of this yet in the United States where maybe somebody could attack with drone technology. Like you see what's happening like Iran and like Israel and all over like the Middle East. They're now just sending drones to just blow up some shit where their op is at. You know what I mean? And it could be an apartment building or whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:21 So that's kind of where a lot of things at. So the Secret Service, that's all their job. So they're making sure this fucking hotel is perfect. Now, this fucking lunatic that eventually is going to get through, by the way, he's pictured here, the place that they're having this event is just a hotel. So regular, regular ass motherfucking hotel. Okay? Not if made it supposedly really secure, but it's a hotel.
Starting point is 00:26:47 What does that mean? They're still doing business. Which means that he knew that they were going to be there. He booked a room at the hotel. So he's in the building somehow. because he's booked a room. And while booking a room, he gets to kind of move around. They can't be like, hey, what are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:27:03 He's like, well, nigga, I'm in the hotel. And he gets a case out, and you got to imagine, let's think about how many people. How many secret service agents protect the president? They're saying there's about 300 agents. 300 fucking agents. And this one guy gets to get in the hotel, probably. we see like, oh, they're not putting checkpoints there. Oh, this stairway is open.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Oh, I could do. Which, by the way, just kind of tells you, I hate to call the U.S. Secret Service incompetent to some extent. I really hate to do it. But Jesus Christ. So this guy, one guy, books a hotel at this hotel. First of all, they should have said no more bookings. Once we confirm, no more bookings.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Like, we're like trillions of dollars in debt already. We should just pay the fucking hotel to say, keep it empty. Keep it empty. Or get everybody to fuck out. out of here. But, you know, again, the president moves around quite often. It's unreasonable to have every private business or whatever just like kick out everybody who are their customer base just to deal with him. So they take severe safety precautions, but they can't do some, or not can't, they don't. So this guy walks around. He brings in his duffel bag, which that's
Starting point is 00:28:20 even crazy to me. How do you have an event with the president of the United States in the a building, which is also like a hotel, people are bringing in all type of suitcases. How are you not scanning the suitcases? Hey, the president's about to be here. Anyone who's going to stay in the building after, let's say the 14th, you need to have all of your belongings scanned. How do you not do that? To make sure there's no bombs, make sure there's no fucking like weapons.
Starting point is 00:28:50 So this guy brings his guns in. The guy got, yo, the guy had a weapon wheel. Guns, knives. Guy came in, like, strapped. So he got all this in his hotel room on some Vegas shit. Remember the Vegas shooter? Like, nigga got all type of shit up in the spot. The president of the fucking United States and the most important people in the land are in the building.
Starting point is 00:29:12 What? Okay. Crazy. So, Ben, all that happens, he peeks out where, like, you know, he can move without people doing a checkpoint. Hey, you can't come here, sir. Badge, Secret Service, you can't come here. he does all that and he figures out the lay of the land
Starting point is 00:29:29 the nigga fucking straps a shotgun to his leg he got a knife like I don't know if it was a like it was a butcher knife or some shit he got that and he got like another pistol my boy is running in on some ghetto inspector gadget shit and then when he realizes
Starting point is 00:29:45 okay they did secure the perimeter of where you know the entrances and the exit is where the president's gonna be at right granted he doesn't have a bomb but again I'm considering concerned that if he did have a bomb, he could just play it all around the bitch and blow the shit up. But okay, he now has to get
Starting point is 00:30:01 through this checkpoint to get to Trump. And obviously, they claim this guy is like smart. They say this guy, you know, they even have his college pictures. Cole Allen, look. They said, according to him, he was a borderline genius.
Starting point is 00:30:22 That's what they claim. They say he was an amazing student. and they said if you look back at his history, this is him graduating. The guy is a borderline genius. Okay? So again, I'm not putting too much weight on that because I still think this is dumb in general. But I think people are saying, well, maybe he's like thought of everything, right? I mean, shit, he's thought of everything so far.
Starting point is 00:30:50 If you could find a way to blend in or not get put up on some whiteboard or evicted by the secret. service, he books a hotel there. He seems normal. But now he's at the most integral part. How do you get to the president or the people around the president to do what you want to do? And the only option he felt he had was I need to, there's a security checkpoint here. There's, you can see people here. Let me sure you can see my mouth.
Starting point is 00:31:18 You can see people here, here, here. You can tell this guy kind of sees him because he's looking. And he says, fuck, I'm just going to storm through here. I'm just going to run through the whole checkpoint. Now, granted, this checkpoint, there's not even like a physical barrier that says, okay, we've cleared you, lift the barrier that they could walk. It's just kind of like, you know, they're just standing on opposite sides of a clear lane. And this guy just, look, he just starts running. Now, I'm going to keep giving credit to this guy right here because he pulls out the blicky immediately, right here.
Starting point is 00:31:50 He grabs the gun immediately, right? Everybody's slow to the draw. Look at this guy right here. He's still looking like, what the fuck? Like he's still looking, right? So you can tell this guy, this got his gun drawn already. This guy got his gun drawn already. And I'm actually surprised, by the way, I think he has something in his hand.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I don't know if you guys can see it. I'm surprised this guy doesn't give this guy, you know what I mean? Just hit him with the, you know, like hit him with the bent end. Like, yo, point blank range, you know what top of time it is. Okay? You know what I mean? Hit him with a blinky. I'm surprised he doesn't do that.
Starting point is 00:32:22 But you notice the lack of awareness from all these people that when we hear about the Secret Service and all these people that are, you know, task with protecting the President. Let's think back at what I said. 300 personnel secret service agents are tasked with protecting the president. That does not include the other police and other law enforcement that is ancillary that is usually then put on assignment in detail to follow their lead. So at any time when the president's coming through, there's probably like 500 to 1,000 people that is their sole goal is to make sure things like this does not happen.
Starting point is 00:32:59 But what do you find out? These three law enforcement guys right here, they're probably thinking about Erica Kirk trying to see if they could fuck her. You know what I mean? Because she's a little bit loosey, goosey, right? This guy right here looked like he probably telling him like some dad jokes or something like that. The only guy on point is this guy right here, blicky up. Now, he probably should have gave him a Legas.
Starting point is 00:33:20 A nice little Legas, you know what I mean? Like, bow. But he didn't. Or maybe he did. Actually, I think maybe he did. He did, right? He had to. I think he did.
Starting point is 00:33:31 He had to. Because this guy flinches. This guy flinches. And by the way, he's, this guy is useless. He's watching a guy pull out the gun, aim in like two seconds, and he's still standing there looking like he's telling the story. I think he shoots. I think he shoots.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Then he comes out with his gun. I will say everybody, even this guy, he was like bent over. I don't know what he was doing here. But by the time the guy flew past him, he pulled his gun too. He did, he did. But I didn't see nobody fire no shit. shots though and then this guy comes out of here so you can tell there was
Starting point is 00:34:33 there's some detail on the other side of this wow one two you see another guy three four you can tell so this stairway or whatever this is this is covered okay anyway but anyway it's fucking goof they've posted mad pictures of him
Starting point is 00:34:54 and the pictures I think did look hilarious he's in like like a four paper nigga, like got this nigga looking like a ghetto it looked like a stick of gum nigga. Look at this fucking idiot man. Anyway. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Suppose he's going to appear in court. He got charged. Let's look at his charges. I don't think I don't know if his charges was, let's look. Okay, he's charged with ooh, never mind, yeah, he's cooked.
Starting point is 00:35:36 He's charged with the attempt to the assassination of Trump. And one of the reasons why he's charged people is not only what he did, the fucker left back a note. Like, he left, he left a note on,
Starting point is 00:35:50 he left a manifesto. So, Cole Allen manifesto. And apparently he sent this to his family. He sent this to his family right before he, um, did what he did.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And, um, According to him, he wanted to kill everybody up in that room. But he said he was going to pick one Trump official to spare. They said the government who tried to storm the White House Correspondents Association, right? Planned to spare one Trump appointee. Only Cash Patel.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Okay? You know, Cash Patel, shot to my nigga Cash Patel, man. Like, yo, me and Cash Patel, like, I'm trying to set it up. Yo, niggas told me that Cash Patel could go shot for shot with Big Act. And I'm like, I don't know about that. I don't know. I don't know about it. They say Cash Patel really be throwing the back.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Pause. Like, he really drink a lot. I'm like, I don't know about that one. If my boy, Cash Patel, if he could drink with me, he's a real nigga. He's a real nigga. Okay. He's a real nigga. Cash, I stand with you.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Okay. Why they're mad at you for drinking midday? They're claiming that Cash Patel be drinking during a day and shit like that. I'm like, fuck you expect. Stuff job. Anyway. Okay, this says, Cole Allen sent a sprawling manifesto to his family moments before he exchanged gunfire with secret service agents. In the document, he referred to himself as the coal force friendly federal assassin and outlined his plan to kill Donald Trump and his top administration officials. So that's one of the reasons he's getting charged.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Like the intent is there. He left a manifesto. Says he wasn't going to kill Patel. And he says these are targets, prioritized from the highest to the law. lowest. All right. So I'm clear why he makes an exception for Patel, who faced backlash for appearing to linger aimlessly in the video.
Starting point is 00:37:51 After, you know, people were kind of shocked that after this happened, the FBI directors is cooling. Like, he's just like chilling, bro. Like, you know, you know, like, this is, this is, my boy's chilling, right? You know? Cash Patel probably was trying to look at, like, try to see if you go back some other bitches, you know? Like, he, he a real nigga.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Like, you know, you know. he had FBI director and everything, but like he hit a cop the holes, man, right? And they're, so they detain the shooter here, guests enter this way, there's a metal detector's here, and there's stairs leading down from a concourse of the ballroom, and so Trump is here, right? So I would imagine that this way only Trump could get out of. guest has to come through this way. So this foyer and whatever like back here, that's for Trump and his officials. But guests entered this way. They have two checkpoints, a checkpoint here, probably a checkpoint there, and maybe even a checkpoint here.
Starting point is 00:38:59 We don't know, but we do know there's mail detectors here. There's secret service all over the place. And, yeah, okay. All right. They asked Trump a ridiculous question. Hey, why do you think people try to kill you, bro? Crazy, huh? Anyway.
Starting point is 00:39:23 He went to court. Homeboy went to court. Let's see what happened. Cole Allen. He went to court. I don't know if we have a video of him going to court, but let's see. Brand new details about the shots fired at the White House correspondent's dinner in Washington, D.C., and the Southern California teacher charged.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Cole Allen facing several felonies, including an attempted assassination charge. There is a lot to get. to this afternoon. Eyewitness news anchor Jory Rand is live near Allen's home in Torrance. Jory has new insight into who the 31-year-old is and what people knew who him are saying about him this afternoon. But we do begin with our Rob Hayes and the Department of Justice. Rob, there are new questions about the shots fired Saturday night. Yeah, that's right, Mark Cole Allen making his first court appearance today. He answered questions from the judge, but he didn't enter a plea. There are also new questions about who fired the shot that struck the secret.
Starting point is 00:40:19 service agent. Yeah, I'm starting to think that one of the secret service shot the other secret service. So, like, they missed him and they hits, because you got to realize it's so many people, the guy's in the middle, if you miss him, you probably hit like a friendly fire type of shit. You know what I mean? I don't think this guy pulled out a gun. I think if he pulled out a gun, like, you'd be Swiss cheese. So I don't think he pulled out of gun.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Inside this Washington, D.C. federal courthouse, the man accused of trying to kill President Trump and members of his administration faced a judge for the first time. Cole Tomas Allen, the 31-year-old Torranceman who opened fire at Saturday night's White House Correspondence Dinner, was charged today with three federal counts, including attempted assassination of the president. There will be additional charges as this investigation continues to unfold. Investigators say, Ellen, traveled by train from L.A. to D.C. Booked a room at the 1st.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Yo, King Rajee, Dave of the 5. says, act, I got no respect for any goof that do some dumb shit or get clapped in the same year of GTA 6 drop. It's been 13 years since the last one and you chose this year to fumble? Oh yeah, GTA's coming out later this year, chat. So you're saying that if this guy got clapped
Starting point is 00:41:34 before the release of GTA, man, fuck them. Okay, okay, okay. In Hilton, where the event was being held and used a stairwell out of public view to get to the ballroom lobby. Surveillance video shows Alan trying to charge through security outside the event. Prosecutors say Alan was armed with a pump action shotgun pistol and three knives.
Starting point is 00:41:59 One secret service agent was shot the bullet stopped by his Kevlar vest. Acting U.S. Attorney General Todd Blanche today saying the investigation is still trying to determine whose weapon is responsible for striking the agent. We do believe that as the complaint lays out that the suspect that the defendant fired out of his shotgun and we know that that happened. But as far as Oh, so they're saying the shotgun got fired. Oh, so maybe he did exchange fire. Damn. Getting into exacting ballistics, I'm not going to do that today.
Starting point is 00:42:32 This is the third assassination attempt against Trump in the last two years. The White House today blaming Democrats for inspiring, Alan, and calling for an end to what press secretary Caroline Levitt called crazed rhetoric. When you have mentally disturbed individuals across the country who are listening to this crazed rhetoric about the president. Okay. Wow. Interesting. All right. Trompito is good, man. My boy, Trampito is good. I think I did play it.
Starting point is 00:43:03 But I think I played it on my gambling stream, so I played again. Trump 60 Minutes, they basically read Trump the manifesto of homie saying, like basically saying the reason why I want to kill these niggas. We got pedophiles. We got rapists. We got all type of evil people up in the government, and I'm fin to go assassinate the ass. And Trump goes crazy on the interviewer saying, why would you even read what this crazy nigga is saying? You know what I mean? It's like, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:43:33 So this crazy guy tries to kill me, the President of the United States, and I have to come here and sit here and answer to his craziness? Yeah. Did you know that he emailed it to family members? We found all of that before. Right before the attack. Yeah. We found that out this morning, and the family members were concerned. I think the brother called up the police.
Starting point is 00:43:55 I think the sister may have called the police. You think he cooked there? Law enforcement. Here we go. I read that because I knew you would. Oh, here we go. It was a smart crazy person. I think the law enforcement did a great job last night.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Let me ask you. I guess if they didn't, I wouldn't be here. But I think they really did a great job. Now, can you make adjustments? We're also learning. Can you make adjustments? I think the only adjustment would be you move your security equipment further away, but it was about 50 yards away. 50 yards is a lot of yards.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Now, when a guy's running at that speed, he was a very fast person, and he got him a little bit by surprise, but that didn't matter because he was totally subdued very shortly after he passed at one point. The so-called manifesto is a stunning thing to read, Mr. President. he appears to reference a motive in it. He writes this quote, administration officials, they are targets.
Starting point is 00:44:55 And he also wrote this. I'm no longer willing to permit a pedophile rapist and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes. Look at Trump's face with what right with, look. A pedophile rapist and traitor to coat my hands with his. Right when he gives that look, Trump body got on bad timing. No longer willing to permit a pedophile rapist and traitor to coat my hands. Right here.
Starting point is 00:45:19 This look is that he's looking off camera. And that, you see, she's sitting this way. So his eyes not supposed to look at the camera. He's looking off camera, even though he's looking, it looks like he's looking at the camera. But he's looking off camera to say, this bitch really tried me, huh? This bitch really tried me, huh?
Starting point is 00:45:39 This is the third time niggis don't try to kill El Trampito. And this bitch over here trying me asking if, yo you know why he's trying to kill you he's trying to he's saying he's trying to kill all the pedophiles and rapists and shit maybe you want of them and trumpito goes crazy here we go his crimes what's your reaction well i was waiting for you to read that because i knew you would because you're you're horrible people horrible people yeah he did write that i'm i'm not a rapist i didn't rape anybody oh you think do you think he was referring to you excuse me i'm not a pedophile you read that
Starting point is 00:46:16 crap from some sick person. I got associated with stuff that has nothing to do with me. I was totally exonerated. Your friends on the other side of the plate are the ones that were involved with, let's say, Epstein or other things. Let's say.
Starting point is 00:46:35 But I said to myself, you know? Why does this think it's so funny, bro? Let's say Epstein. Why does he talk like that? I'll do this interview and they'll probably, I read the manifesto. You know, it was a sick person. person, but you should be ashamed of yourself
Starting point is 00:46:49 because I'm not any of those things. Mr. President, these are the-in-s-war. Shout o'clock, chat. Shout, oh, fucking clock. Wake up. Y'all that work it or not? It's 8 o'clock. We got an hour in so far.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Get on up. Get on up. This is like y'all, this like, y'all, this like power hour coffee shit. I'm going to make sure y'all good. Y'all going to be excited after this stream is done. Y'all going to get the day done. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Excuse me. You shouldn't be reading that on 60 minutes. You're a disgrace, but go ahead. You're a disgrace. But go ahead. Yo, I like Jaime Vali. You shouldn't be reading that on 60 minutes. You're a disgrace.
Starting point is 00:47:31 But go ahead. Let's finish the interview. The other thing that he wrote in the... The other thing in the manifester that I think is worth looking at in terms of determining his motive. He had been staying at the hotel since Friday. He checked in. He said he had cased the place, and he wrote, What the hell is the Secret Service doing?
Starting point is 00:47:49 Facts. And he wrote this quote, I expected security cameras at every bend, bugged hotel rooms, armed agents every 10 feet, metal detectors out the wazoo. What I got is nothing. He wrote like this level of incompetence is insane.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Sir, you have already had two. Well, he was pretty incompetent too because he got caught. And he got caught pretty easily. So I'd say he was pretty incompetent, too. You know, I could take any event having to do with security or anything else. I can always find fault, no matter what. I can take a baseball team that won the game 18 to nothing
Starting point is 00:48:22 and say they should have played better. Those guys did a good job last night. They did a really good job. Even though Trump, you know, I am worried about his age a bit. He's 80 now. I do think he makes a very valid point. It's always, if we sit back on a Monday, which yesterday was Monday,
Starting point is 00:48:42 and we criticize every little thing, people could always be better, right? Bam, Atabai, well, obviously he could do a lot of shit better because he only shot free throws, right? He scored 83 points. He could have been better, right? Like, we could critique that game. And by, well, he shouldn't have missed this.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Damn, he missed this layup. Why didn't he go for this? You know, rebound, he could have got to put back in. You could really, like, you could criticize everything. I was actually surprised, especially with someone who's now, you know, Trump has to go to sleep thinking, I could die. That has to be a very present thought in his mind, right?
Starting point is 00:49:20 Like more than any other president, like people want me dead. And for him to even come out and like, you know, explain the actions of secret service by saying, hey, listen, you're right. It maybe could have been better, but all things considered, it was good enough. And no one got into where I was at and I was ultimately spared. and he could give credit there rather than just being like oh why didn't you guys do this why don't you guys do that
Starting point is 00:49:46 I don't know part of it like I've been watching Trump recently I feel like there's a morbid you know when old people get to the point where they've accepted death have you talked to any of your parents or like grandparents and they'll talk to you they're like yeah
Starting point is 00:49:59 so when I'm not here and like you're talking to them but you don't want to have that combo with them because you're like I'm like grandma I don't want to talk about that that's stupid no let's not talk about that but they're completely prepared to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:50:11 about them not being here because they've already accepted the fact that at a point they're going to die and a lot of times younger people we don't accept it because they're like no i want my grandma forever it feels like trump has accepted that you know whether assassination or whether it's you know he's just at the end of his lifespan i feel like he kind of talks in a yeah i'm not going to sit hear and be like, oh, I'm fearful of death. It feels like he's almost saying, if it happens, that happens, bro.
Starting point is 00:50:46 And I don't know, it's a little odd for me, but he's older, he's 80. Now, do they make adjustments? They do? They learn. They make adjustments. We're living in a different world with the internet than we had years ago. But even years ago, it was very dangerous.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I mean, just ask honest Abe Lincoln. Pretty dangerous. And, but we are living a very, you know, the internet, I think, maybe more than anything else. It's radicalized some people. It's made people mentally sick. It's also a great thing. It's a phenomenal thing. With a leader in it, with a leader in AI, it's a great thing, but you'll always find problems.
Starting point is 00:51:26 But it's a different age. It's a very different time. I mentioned that because, again, as his motive, you brought this up. He had social media accounts that had anti-Trump and anti-Christian rhetoric. You should read, why don't you read all the anti-Trump? What don't you read it? You just did, so why don't you read it? Well, he had a lot of anti-Christian rhetoric.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I wonder why Trump does interviews with people that clearly he doesn't like or you feel they don't like him. Because it's always like this tense kind of like back and forth between him and the interview. You could tell he don't fuck with his shit. He had, he was part of a group called The Wide Awakes. he had attended a no king's protest in California. No kings. What did security tell you about what may have been his motives? The reason you have people like that is you have people doing no kings, I'm not a king.
Starting point is 00:52:17 What I am, if I was a king, I wouldn't be dealing with you. No, I'm not a king. I get it. I don't laugh. I see these no kings which are funded just like the Southern law was funded. You saw all that, Southern law is financing the KKK. and lots of other radical, terrible groups. And then they go out and they say,
Starting point is 00:52:41 oh, we've got to stop the KKK. And yet they give him hundreds of thousands and even millions of dollars. It's a total scam run by the Democrats. Okay. All right. Well, there's a lot to uncover there. So the guy is kind of like,
Starting point is 00:52:56 you didn't put in a plea, but he showed up in court. They say, here's why he excluded Cash Patel off his target list. Okay. I don't get it Why? Oh is it because like Cash Patel is like from India some shit Is he from India?
Starting point is 00:53:31 This is Kash Patel parents are Indian Did this guy have a wife? Should we read this bullshit? Let me see Okay Oh wow Jesus Okay
Starting point is 00:53:56 We'll read the manifesto real quick or I'll try to This is supposedly His full manifesto says Hello everybody So I may have given a lot of people A lot of surprise today Let me start by apologizing everyone
Starting point is 00:54:08 Who's trust I abuse Apologize to my parents For saying I had an interview Without specifying It was for most wanted Oh the guy got a sense of humor I apologize to my colleagues And students for saying I had a personal emergency
Starting point is 00:54:21 By the time anyone reads this I probably most certainly do So he's talking about Whatever He says I might need to go to the ER, but I can hardly call that a not self-inflicted status. This guy got jokes. This guy writing jokes like you Dave Chappelle.
Starting point is 00:54:38 So I apologize to all the people I traveled next to, all the workers that handle my luggage, all the non-targeted people at the hotel. I put in danger by just being there. I apologize to everyone who was abused or murdered before this. To all those who suffered, I was able to attempt, before I was able to attempt this, to all who they still suffer after, regardless of my successor failed. I don't expect forgiveness, but I could see, but if I could be seen any other way to get this close, I would have taken it. Again, my sincere apologies.
Starting point is 00:55:09 On to why I did any of this. I am a citizen of the United States. What my representatives do reflect on me. I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, a rapist, or a traitor, to cope my hand with his crimes. Well, to be honest, I was no longer willing a long time ago, but this is my first real opportunity and I finally had some chance to do something about it. While I'm discussing this, I'll go over my expected rules of engagement. Probably in a terrible format, but I'm not military, so too bad. Administration officials, not including Mr. Patel.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Their targets, prioritized from highest rank into lowest. Secret Service, their targets only if necessary, and to be incapacitated, non-letally, if possible. A.K., I hope they're wearing body armor because, with body armor because, intermast with shotguns messes up people who aren't. Ooh, wow. This guy, he had planned to shoot. Whoa, okay, never mind. Hotel security.
Starting point is 00:56:09 They're not targets if at all possible, unless they shoot at me. Capital police, well, they're the same as hotel security. National Guard, they're same as hotel security. Hotel employees, they're not targets at all. Guest, I don't want to kill any else, guess. In order to minimize, or minimize, actually, sorry, minimize casualties, I'll be using buckshot rather than slugs, less penetration through walls. I would also go through most everyone here to get to the targets if it was absolutely necessary
Starting point is 00:56:39 on the basis of most people chose to attend a speech by pedophile, rapists, and traitor, and thus are complicit. I really hope it doesn't come to that. Now, I don't want to stop this, and I know I'm reading through this. Chat, I got to be honest. You know, you're going to be like, your act. It's no way you just pull this parallel. But I got to.
Starting point is 00:56:57 This is real. Rhetoric that I believe people who are woke use against people they don't like does encourage this behavior. Remember where, you know, I see everybody now saying, well, nobody, like, why is Drake fans so hurt about, when you label somebody as a pedophile, when you label somebody as some of the most vile things in the world, maybe you won't do nothing because you're pussy. Maybe you're still down to listen to Iceman. Maybe you're still down to go cover this motherfucker or whatever. But there's somebody that you're speaking to that believes you that says all pedophiles should die. And they might be infuriated that these people that are being labeled falsely by the way as pedophiles. Falsly, by the way, as all these really heinous things, they might be like, oh, so nobody going to do none about it?
Starting point is 00:57:53 Well, I'm going to do something about it because that's what this is, right? when you label the president of United States like he's a pedophile maybe the person saying it all the time on CNN is not going to say oh I'm going to go kill President Trump but there's going to be some lunatic that says wait y'all look because that's what he's saying
Starting point is 00:58:11 and that's why I went on the little tangent he's saying why are wait if we really think this nigga is a pedophile why are we listening to this nigga give speeches and that's where I've said even about like the Drake thing I'm like if you push this idea that he was a pedophile how do you get on to the thought of
Starting point is 00:58:34 I want to hear Iceman but most people in that type of arena it wasn't that serious well we're now seeing what happens when someone takes a serious right so this guy is literally saying the reason why he's doing this he believes that Donald Trump is a pedophile and he believes he's a rapist
Starting point is 00:58:52 and he believes he's a traitor And he believes people around him in his cabinet and people of power are complicit. And that's one thing I realize everybody who spews this language, and I think it's a language of hate, when you say or you categorize someone as things that you hope to get them canceled by, you're spreading hate, even if you think they're spreading hate as well. Because you're going to radicalize someone, you know, right? You're going to radicalize someone who says, well, if you really think Drake's a pedophile, why is someone? somebody don't kill him. Let's be honest. Or it doesn't have to do with Drake.
Starting point is 00:59:28 It has to do with anyone you accuse of those things. Right? Like, the theater that we live in where you disagree with someone and you call them the most vile things on earth. Oh, that guy's, you know, he's a pedophile. Well, you know, you're just pussy. Somebody else is going to say, well, if, if, you know, my life ain't worth shit right now,
Starting point is 00:59:50 if I'm going to go out, I'd rather go out killing the pedophile. Where did I get this idea of this guy's a pedophile? I got it from these people who keep saying it Without reason, without proof They're just saying something to dismiss this person Because they don't like them So I do see where the rhetoric has like Really trumped up into this
Starting point is 01:00:13 Because I'm going to be honest with you I really don't think the majority of Americans Think that Donald Trump is a pedophile I don't It's impossible might be a crazy comparison, but it's like thinking that, all right, let me bring it back a little bit.
Starting point is 01:00:38 If they did think he was a pedophile, who would ever want to be led by a pedophile? So there's a lot of people who I believe accept the rhetoric, but the reason why they don't do anything or the reason why they're not radicalized or the reason why they're not chanting on the mountain every day, let's get this pedophile out of power, is because they're like,
Starting point is 01:01:01 they're not really gunhole to the idea of him being a pedophile. It's just a way to tear him down. Right? Because I believe if Jeffrey Epstein, now knowing everything we know, was actually somehow alive and well, but president, there would be fucking war. There would be at least half of the population that says, I can't listen to nothing this guy says.
Starting point is 01:01:27 He's fucking little children. I don't care if he gives us a stimulus check. I don't care what he we hate this guy that much. I just don't think that's the thing with Trump. I think people just don't like Trump like, you know, he has his ways. You don't like him. And I might be wrong. But I do believe that if you really think a niggas like a pedophilic and he's controlling your country,
Starting point is 01:01:48 I don't think this is the, I don't think it's that rare that people would do what this guy does. I think majority of people would do what he does. But, you know, obviously three is a lot. You know, three assassination attempts is a lot. but I would think way more people would be rebelling or trying to get this guy out of power some way somehow. Anyway, okay, cool. So basically his whole thing is
Starting point is 01:02:18 he's saying that he's down to go through whoever to get to his targets and his basis is that if you're going to attend a speech by a pedophile and a rapist and a traitor, you're kind of complicit. So now he's like, here's a rebuttal so objection. So he's arguing with him, and anticipating what people would say to object.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Subjection one is a Christian, you should turn the other cheek. His rebuttal is this. Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself, oh my bad, sorry. It's when, what about? He says, turn in the other cheek. Sorry. So turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed. He says, I'm not the person raped in a detention camp.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I'm not the fisherman executed without a trial. I'm not a school kid blown up or a child starve or a teenage girl abused by many criminals in this administration. So turning the other cheek is when someone is oppressed. Not turn it. Oh, turning the other cheek is when someone else is oppressed. Not Christian behavior. It's complicitly in the oppressor's crime. Objection two.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Well, this is not convenient time for you to do this type of thing. His rebuttal was, well, I need whoever who thinks is not the convenient time to take a couple minutes and realize the world isn't about you. you do you think that when i see someone raped or murdered or abused i should walk on by because it would be inconvenient for those people who aren't the victim this was the best timing and the best chance of success i could come up with objection three says you didn't get them all which i guess you know he's forecasting at this point thinking he was going to do some do some um damage or kill some people his rebuttal would be well i got to start somewhere the objection was as a half black, half white person,
Starting point is 01:04:11 you shouldn't be the one doing this. His rebuttal was saying, well, I don't see nobody else picking on the slap. Objection five was yield on, ooh, okay, yield onto Caesar, what is Caesar's? Hmm. I don't know if you know that,
Starting point is 01:04:26 that there's an infamous thing where it says, for Julius Caesar, it says, what is for Caesar gives the Caesar? Let me see what's context. Yeah, right under the Caesar, the things are for Caesar, basically was people should pay taxes and you know you had to give what your proper portion was to the government or the monarch or whatever rebuttal is the United States of America is ruled by law
Starting point is 01:04:59 not by one or several people so so the reason why they're saying this is that what is owed onto Trump in terms of power in terms of you know resources you got to give it to him because he is the leader of the United States and his rebel is that we're ruled by law just not by one or several people and so far as representatives and judges don't follow the law no one is required to yield them anything so unlawfully orders so he's saying that you know we're ruled by law not one person and also in with representatives which means could be congress people or judges he's saying that as far as they they not following the law no one should give them shit so it would also and my appreciation to great many people since I will not be likely able to talk with them again
Starting point is 01:05:50 unless the Secret Service is astoundingly incompetent. So thank you to my family, both personal and church, for your love over these 31 years. Oh my God. Nah, this is some crazy. When a nigga could write this sentence, you're bad shit crazy. You live 31 fucking years and the only line for everybody who has changed your diaper, done this for you, all the sacrifices they made for you is one line. Thank you for my family, both personally and church, for your love over 31 years.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Jesus Christ. It's like he doesn't see the worth in, you know, everything has been. All right, whatever. Thank you to my friends for your companionship over many years. Thank you to my colleagues over many jobs, for your positivity and professionalism. Thank you to my students. I think he was a teacher, by the way, for your enthusiasm and love of learning. Thank you to many acquaintances.
Starting point is 01:06:42 I've met in person or online for your short interactions and long-term relationships for your perspectives and inspiration. Thank you for everything. sincerely. The cold or cold force friendly federal assassin Allen. P.S. OK, now all the sappy sentence is done. What the hell secret service doing? Sorry, I'm going to have to rant here a bit before I dropped the formal tone. Uh, uh, and dropped the formal tone. Like, I expected security cameras ever ever been, bugged hotel rooms, arms secret agents, at every 10 feet, Melon the Texas out of the wazoo. What I got? Who knows?
Starting point is 01:07:15 Maybe they're pranking me. It's nothing. No damn security, not in transport, not in a hotel, not in the event. Like, one thing I immediately noticed walking in the hotel is a sense of arrogance. I walk in with multiple weapons and not a single person there considers the possibility that I could be a threat. The security of the event is all outside,
Starting point is 01:07:32 focused on the protesters and current arrivals, because no one thought about what happens if someone checks in the day before. Like, this type of incompetence is insane. and I sincerely hope it's corrected by the time this country actually gets competent leadership. Like, if I was an Iranian agent instead of an American citizen, I could have brought in a damn mad deuce in here. And nobody would have noticed shit, actually insane.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Oh, and if anyone's curious how doing something like this feels, it's awful. I want to throw up. I want to cry for all the things I wanted to do and never will. For all the people who I trusted that this betrays, I experienced rage thinking about everything. thing this administration is done. Can't really recommend this. Stay in school.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Kids. Wow. Crazy, huh? Anyway, that nigga, well, you should have died, but, you know, Iceman is 16 days, man. Fuck that nigga, man. Ice man, 16 days. That's all we need to know. Ice man is 16 days, gang. Ice man in 16 days.
Starting point is 01:08:37 That's all we know. Ice man. 16 days. What's the problem? Iceman in 16 days. Fuck Cole Allen. He'd be i. Iceman is 16 days. All right. How are you doing?
Starting point is 01:09:05 Top of the morning. Hope you guys are doing good. Let's see this. Don't tell me that Cash Patel gave an update. Oh my God. This guy right here. Every time I see this thing, I just think about beer palm. Our audience to understand.
Starting point is 01:09:26 He a little bit cross-eyed. I know he'd think he could drink. I could out drink that nigga. Hey, thanks so much for having me on. First and foremost, I want to remind your audience of President Trump's leadership, literally, courage under fire that evening at the press conference to announce the world and be as transparent as possible. He's assembled the greatest law enforcement team that I've ever seen. And between myself and Mark Mainmullen and the interagency in the White House,
Starting point is 01:09:51 we are prepared to tackle this investigation, as we've done since it started. We immediately, for the FBI, dispatched evidence response teams, a mobile command center, stood up our NC3 National Crisis Coordination Center at headquarters and flexed in our expert capability. and technical analysis. We conducted interviews literally across the country in multiple jurisdictions in less than 24 hours after this tragic event and also used FBI fixed-wing assets
Starting point is 01:10:21 to transport evidence from across the country to Quantico so it can be analyzed quickly because we believe in the necessity for speed and doing this properly. You know, I realize this guy talks a good game, man. He do talk a good game. Which is why we've done this investigation above board with our partners at DOJ,
Starting point is 01:10:36 and which is also why almost 24 or just over 24 hours after this tragic incident, you'll be seeing myself and Attorney General Todd Blanche addressed the nation with actual details relating to this event. So, Cash, can you go into... Okay, enough of that, man. Cash, I hear you, brother. Okay, so, wait, profile of this person.
Starting point is 01:10:55 I know you can't talk... I've been looking at as to the... All right, man, we're going to move on from this. All right, chat, what's going on in hip-hop? Nice Tuesday morning. How are y'all doing on the wake-up? Y'all good? somebody said he's feeling himself that thing is not on the hit list
Starting point is 01:11:11 yo for real chat yo you know how you feeling you remember when like them little towelhead Taliban motherfuckers used to like be writing them notes out like they used to be sending out like death to America shit there was one of them like they would be like yeah
Starting point is 01:11:28 but we don't got no problem with black people and black people was like I don't got a problem with y'all like we're trying to separate ourselves on the mix they're like death to one America Like, you know, the little towerhead motherfucker? Death to my Americans! And, like, as soon as those, like, well, y'all black people, we cool. We were like, where?
Starting point is 01:11:47 Yeah, we ain't got a fucking problem with y'all need. The whole time they screaming death to Americans, like, black people now separating ourselves like, we ain't Americans. Man! You know what I mean? Like, yo, for real, we're like, oh, shit. They say, oh, were we good? I bet. Yo, y'all white people, y'all need to stop whaling out.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Y'all white people, like, we fuck with y'all shit. But y'all stop whaling out. They said we cool. They said we cool. We don't know about y'all. We just go mind our business. We don't mind our business. We go mind our business.
Starting point is 01:12:15 That's the... Nah, yo, not for real. I'm telling you what happened. Anyway, let's get into it. Y'all want to get into some hip-hop shit. Let's see what's going on.
Starting point is 01:12:33 I want to see what's going on on the circuit. All right? We didn't stream yesterday, so we got a lot of things to talk about. Sean Cottonon reacting to Money Man. Okay, so there's an Adam 22 and Money Man thing. I don't like, like sometimes the media stuff, I don't want to talk about too much. I do love media drama, though.
Starting point is 01:12:56 I do. I do. I do. I really do like it. How about we start here? You know who I think is really smart? I really like him. I really like him. I've done a lot of work with him, too. You know, I collaborate with him to try to help his company, United Masters. And by the way, actually I want to give a huge credit to him. When I got my deal with Twitch, he was the guy who kind of really helped me get this going. I'm talking about Steve Stout.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Steve Stout's been a good guy for me. So he had two clips that I see going around, and I want to play both of them. But I want to play the Drake clip. Actually, let me go to the full interview. I want to hear what he says about Drake. Back in a day, and I think I can say it. Now, he, me and him, and stout, call me, bro. Call me.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Like, me and him, we have really good convos about music. He's really, I really think, anytime you see an executive that's really lasted the test of time, they're probably really smart. You got to pick their brain. They see things from a different angle. They've also, they got skin in the game too. If they're ever wrong, they've lost money. It's not like, they're not just guessing. They've lost money.
Starting point is 01:14:09 and the smartest guys who eventually always land on their feet, you got to listen to them because they've watched this business. They've lost millions or made millions, but it's by accurately reading the landscape. Even, so I have Steve Stout in that list. Lear Cohen is definitely in that list. Who else? Stephen Victor is in that list.
Starting point is 01:14:31 There's a bunch of like really shrewd, smart guys that come, that are executives. And trust me, I talk to them. I try to talk to them all. P from QC, obviously. I try to talk to, like, having a relationship with an executive gives you a different insight of what the game is. Because sometimes when you listen to just media commentators, we stick on a very small
Starting point is 01:14:54 level. And we're like, oh, no, well, if he makes the right song and he got to do it. And it's kind of like very like, but I keep telling you everything with music trickles down from business to whatever. So Steve Stout did an interview. Oh, and I'll tell you what he told me back in a day. And back in the day, back in the day, he said something so profound to me. I think even later me and Drake, because I think Drake heard it and Drake was like, who said this?
Starting point is 01:15:23 And we communicated about it, but he said this about Drake. It was when Drake dropped two C slide. He made a really dope analysis of where he felt Drake was. He said, oh, Drake is at a fork in a road. And this is when Drake dropped two C slide. He said, yo, Drake is either going to have to choose one or two paths. and one path seems to align more with Jay Cole. That path would be you're going to, you know, you got this great audience,
Starting point is 01:15:52 but you're going to grow with them. Drake is turning, I believe, 38 this year, if I'm not wrong, right? How old is Drake? And we're not bringing up age. Oh, actually, Drake is turned 40 this year. Wow. Holy shit. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Drake is turning 40 this year. Wow. time is flying okay but this is the point I don't know when Tussie slide dropped Let's look at it Tissy slide
Starting point is 01:16:20 So Tussie slide dropped in 2020 So that was when Drake was 34 And I remember having a conversation With Steve Stought And he said this to me And he said yo act Drake is at a very important point
Starting point is 01:16:31 In his career In his life He's gonna have to figure out Will he grow with his audience Or will he keep chasing Being the guy for the youth he's like tussie slide is trying to be the guy for the youth growing with your audience there's many ways to do it
Starting point is 01:16:48 but it's kind of like what j cole is you see j cole dropped an album right around the civic like there's no there's no kid that's like 20 or 20 that probably understands his rollout but his rollout is for the people who his career grew with that are now in their 30s right which means like j cole is the quintessential artist about growing with that once specific fan base that that I'm supported him to get there now I'm ad lib and some of the stuff here but I'm kind of breaking down the idea of what the criticism or not criticism but like the the breakdown of drake was is that Drake is ubiquitous not only is Drake really um Drake has
Starting point is 01:17:28 these fans that have been there for like 20 years I think I'm one of them right you've been there for 15 20 years Drake still appeals to the to the you know not all the kids, but some of the kids. Like, you know, he's going to have some music that the kids are going to like. And his music isn't like, oh, I'm just trying to please the people who was rocking with me from Room for Improvement. And what Steve Stow said to me was like, the fork in a road with doing a song like Tussi Slide is that that was like a TikTok type of song where you're trying to, you know, appeal to a younger audience with the dance and with that type of like, you know, fluff. and he said, he said this to me,
Starting point is 01:18:11 he said, here's the thing. The only thing about when you're an agent artist and you choose to try to make music for the youngest of demographics is that you'll find out
Starting point is 01:18:29 they'll love you or they'll like you, but they'll never love you like someone that's actually their demographic. What does that mean? You won't get that demographic
Starting point is 01:18:42 to go crazy about it? you like how they would go crazy about young boy cardy you get what i'm saying eat or whatever and it's like they'll like you but they'll never love you and that was a very interesting thing that he said to me and i was like i was thinking about him like he's kind of right i don't think you know the people who love drake is the people who like drake is a people who like drake is 15 or 20 years part of my life right so it's like the the thought it's like people with j z it makes sense too right like j's 20 years part of their life
Starting point is 01:19:20 like now they're probably act such a bitch ass i don't want to hear you talk about jay like that that that's her guy j is impossible for jay to come out now and get like some 20 year old kid to be like nah jay is that guy die hard it's not their generation and i actually believe that so i thought i was a really good point he made at that point um and it was kind of like just forecasting where drake would go i've thought I've thought personally that Drake has done a great job of balancing though. I think Drake has done a great job of still respecting and bringing along his fan base, but not kind of like aging himself out of hip hop where we're like what Drake is talking about, got nothing to do with, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:05 You know, like, oh, you know, J. Cole's album, with all due respect to it, I felt it was for J-Cole fans. Like, I don't think J-Col's album, you have, J-Col-L-Lan. For me, it was good. Like, a little bit above mid, good. We're not just saying like really good, but a little bit above mid good, right? And I don't think if you're, I think that the only way you think that album is really good is if you were a Jay Cole fan for at least 10 years. So what am I saying?
Starting point is 01:20:33 He made an album for people that have invested a decade into him. He didn't make an album for the person who doesn't know his plight, doesn't know the dollar in the job. dream doesn't know all these things that he sacrificed when he was younger no he did the album to please the people that was rocking with him for 10 plus years and that's a distinct thing i think with drake drake you know he's always trying to please mad fan bases or mad like you know groups of people i think drake wants to you know have the songs that the young kids and what i mean young kids we're talking about like, let's say 17 to 23, or let's say 15 to 23, that they're bumping like, oh, this is fire, but also not lose his people that have been grown with him that are now 35.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Hey, we've been listening to you for 15 years since we were 20, right? And I think he's tried to do a good job of that. Anyway, I said all that to give Steve Stiles some credit because I've also said that story before and I never said who told me. And one thing about me, I don't like taking credit for other. people's ideas or a good summation and stuff. So that was Steve Stout who said that and I actually, I thought
Starting point is 01:21:48 it was like prolific when he said it. Anyway, he did an interview with the border room. Damn, it only has 9,000 views. Yo, Steve, yo, come through an interview with me, dog. Steve used to call me all the time. Steve used to call me all the time. Steve, what happened, man? We ain't friends anymore? People that I advise, but
Starting point is 01:22:08 Really smart guy, I'm telling you. Reviews white. Oh, he's mad at cool with Jay Z? Nah, but me and I we've never talk about Jay Z. You think Jay Z? You think Jay Z told him not to be friends with me no more? Me and Steve would be mad cool. Fame is the amplifier of talent. Fame has decided. Yeah, but I agree
Starting point is 01:22:26 with this take, too, but let me get to the Drake take first. People who've consumed by the idea to the point that it can't get out of your hand. I hear you. You got to pursue it, because it can't get out of it. It's the only solution
Starting point is 01:22:40 is to actually pursue it, right? The combination of that and an industry, oddly enough, like podcasts, there's so many people doing it now. At some point you go, should I be doing this? Because there's so many people doing it. Is this the right thing to do for me, given all of my breadth of talent, should I be doing this? Like, I look at rappers in the podcast industry, and I'm not shitting on anybody. Those were the same people you were complaining about 15 years ago. The radio personalities or whoever were
Starting point is 01:23:12 interviewing you, didn't know your music, shouldn't be judging you, shouldn't have points of view on this shit had very little respect for. You're now that person. Talking about politics, talking about things that you know not much about. Or rather, it's not your expertise.
Starting point is 01:23:31 And now you're doing that because... Okay, I only get this a Drake point. We could jump back around. Here we go. In the record business historically. By the way, the reason I like guys like this is because they give a different insight. It's from the business sense. They look top down.
Starting point is 01:23:46 An artist needed a label in order to find an audience. When music went digital, an artist can find an audience before they find a label. Yeah. So why would the economics be upside down to the artist if they actually found the audience first? Weren't they now the record label and you were just the distributor? Yeah. And the combination of needing a supply chain and that fact, becoming a real fact that I had seen. Now, of course, there's a lot of nuances to that.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Like, artists still want to be artists. Can I win a Grammy with you? Yeah. Don't I look like I'm less than because I'm not with a major? Man, I grew up loving Def Jam. You're not Def Jam. Yeah. You got to wait for those people to age out and then the next generation
Starting point is 01:24:32 to come in who's like, I don't give a fuck about Def Jam. I want to control my shit. Yeah. I want to make money. I don't need anybody. Like, independence was going to become a thing. And you just have to wait for it. But I think about being a visionary is the better visionary you are, the longer you have to wait.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Because it takes, man, I've seen it early. That's the good news. The bad news is it's nine years. So you better have the financial runway to sit it out. Yeah. Because it's not going to be nine years. And bigger than the label infrastructure changing and shifting back to the talent conference. There's probably 20, 25 artists that.
Starting point is 01:25:15 If they stream the equivalent of two million albums, their last album, there's an 85% shot. They'll do it again. Right? There's probably 25, let's say 25 artists. It doesn't matter. Artist number 26, their song is competing with artists number 500,000. So you got like the guys, right? The drakes, the Kendricks, the Bruno Mars, the, right?
Starting point is 01:25:43 You got that core group. have great predictability that whenever they put it out there's an audience waiting for them Harry Styles etc the amount of celebrities and a lot of the fame and a lot of the noise that's out there is confusing to most marketers what I do is help them separate signal from noise what is the signal the noise and every day there's more and more noise which makes the signals harder to find but that's my job as a marketer as a music about battle rap what was your feeling about that battle rap similar to boxing like if you get knocked out in boxing it's sort of the beginning of the end of your
Starting point is 01:26:29 career once somebody sees you on the floor and they count it to 10 it sort of begins the beginning of the end battle rap was like that like if you lost the battle the odds of having a career after that would diminish greatly i mean We could go through some funny examples, but I don't want to do that. That is the case now. You think about how long it's taking Drake to put out this album. This is the most important project he's ever. I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:27:01 He knows that. Now, I want to chime in and actually add to this and I actually say, I agree that, you know, remember what we kept saying this is Drake's most anticipated album? I disagree. I still think his views. I think this is Drake's most important album, 100%. Because remember, in all these situations, for even like, say, we're going to keep saying Kendrick Cole and Drake, what's happening now is legacy is being defined.
Starting point is 01:27:33 All these guys are successful. They've all had some semblance of having their moment at the top. It's about legacy. And I don't think there's been any other album in Drake's catalog that we're going to look at to say, this shapes his legacy more than this album. So is it his most important? In my opinion, yes. So that's where, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:55 I kept seeing people want to say, why don't you think this is most anticipated? Because it's not the most anticipated. He's had higher anticipated albums. I think this is the most important album, which that's slightly different. And you wanted to be judged by the question. quality of the work, not the quality of the memes.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Not the quality of the fan bullshit. So that's the part about it that it's never gonna stop anyway, but I do believe that the fan shit and social media has made it a little bit more, maybe not more dangerous, but it becomes cringeworthy because of what people do with it beyond just the music itself. That's like what Jay Cole was saying the other day about how it may be impossible to have a classic album ever again.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Because just like politics, a classic was unanimous. And without question, Drake is still the biggest star in this entire game, in this galaxy. And he probably will deliver a classic. But there will be a fraction of people that refuse under any pretense to acknowledge it as such. And that didn't seem to be the case when we were coming up. There's still dominant opinions.
Starting point is 01:29:19 that control the majority perspective on something. Here we go. That's true. It's dominant opinions. Now, whether it comes from informed people or not is the thing that's questionable, right? Like, you don't even know. But the consensus is clear
Starting point is 01:29:38 when something's positive. Well, the consensus is clear when something's positive, but Rich, back to clickbait, you only get clicks that matter seismic shifting clicks when you have an opposing view of the consensus if i could sit here i could make you should go viral right now i can say three things right now that all i have to do is disagree with popular opinion yeah like what you think that yeah if i give you a firm strong disappointment with something that's consensus and i have some rationale behind it that makes sense
Starting point is 01:30:16 and my twisted time, it will go viral. Steve said, da-da-da-da, and that's, that's the problem. Okay, I thought he did a little bit more on the Drake thing, but I get it. I wanted to, he made a great point about Stephen A. Smith. I couldn't agree more. And I want to play this, and then we'll kind of go into some other stuff. But just to kind of sum up that Drake part, which I do agree, I think it is Drake's most important album.
Starting point is 01:30:48 It is it's one that's going to define his legacy. But I've always said this. You know, I was talking to I don't want to name drop. But another huge artist in the game and that person was like, hey, oh man, Drake's about a drop.
Starting point is 01:31:06 And I don't even know their relationship, but shit, they communicated with me that. They were really excited too about the album dropping. And I was just like, yeah, no, it's great. And they were saying, yo, a lot of people are kind of like, like waiting for this. Like this is, it seems to be the vibe. And I said one thing about Drake to them, which I do solemnly believe,
Starting point is 01:31:25 the greatness of Drake is that he's taking these risks as he's aged in his career. We have to realize ever since 2015, right? At 2015, he's already at top of the game. Every album afterwards, he always sought out some type of disruption, some incongrual. or lack of continuity with either relationships or whatever that made us feel like this album that he was about to drop was really going to define his career. Let me put it in perspective and make it a little bit simpler.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Drake is, Drake in 2015, when he beefs with meek. This guy's a seven-year, eight-year veteran at that point. Okay, cool, that might make sense while you do it. By the time he gets to 2018, he's had pretty much, you know, if we want to compare him to LeBron, no, they might not be seen on eyeed, but Drake has one of the most amazing careers. He's a legend already. With or without him beef and with push a T, he's already a legend. Why? Like, you know, you might think like, you're not going to gain much from it. However, based on him, you know, having that hip-hop chip on his shoulder, it actually made people wanting to hear Scorpion more. how does he come from this right same with views that came after the the meek beef how does like that album was also important like how do you bounce back from this whole like you know beef type of energy he comes back with dance songs he's talking about how his label and personal relationships are fucked up okay going into um from more life into CLB you kind of realize that
Starting point is 01:33:14 What Drake does really good every time is recreate this idea of you feel like the building is burning. And that's what urgency is. That's what promo is like, okay, these shirts are going to be on sale for forever. But we got to make you feel like if you don't get it today, you might never get it. And he's really good. He's created that with every album, right? It was always some type of turmoil that we're like, nah, Drake is done. Like there was always like that thought that he's done And the album becomes more important because he has to prove that he's not done Just think about this
Starting point is 01:33:49 Drake is on his 16th year in music How could an album in his 16th year Most artists don't last beyond five But in his 16th year He's dropping an album that the culture is all saying His whole career is dependent on this one Really? I mean it's not But it's good for the idea of why he's the best, right?
Starting point is 01:34:14 If Drake retired today, never dropped Iceman, I still have him as greatest rapper ever. Still have him as a greatest rapper ever. But the mere fact that this is the most pressurized album in his 16th year, put it like this. And we are going to use a LeBron comparison. If LeBron beats KD and a lot of, and a beaten down like Houston Rockets team,
Starting point is 01:34:41 Houston Rockets are playing, we're going to just give him all the credit. Yo, LeBron is great. He still wins a playoff round. And he did it without Luca and AR-15, which is Austin Reeks. The pressure on LeBron, honestly, like even though we want to,
Starting point is 01:34:56 because he's done this for so long, the pressure isn't you better win a championship. The pressure is just show us hints of greatness that affirms why the other 20 years you've been playing. you're the guy for life. There's not that much pressure. Here's the pressure on Drake
Starting point is 01:35:14 that's completely more than LeBron. We're looking at Drake that if he doesn't deliver on this one album, take care. If you're reading this is too late, nothing was the same. More life. What a time to be alive.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Dark Lane demos. What else? What am I missing? What am I missing? What I'm missing? CLB, her laws, for all of these things, me nothing. Like we're acting like if Drake doesn't
Starting point is 01:35:42 knock this. But here's the thing. And I'm not, I'm not saying this as a, oh, give Drake a break, because I like the pressure. Because I think you only get diamonds when you put pressure on people. I've always told y'all, I thought me crap the best when niggas thought he was done. Like
Starting point is 01:35:57 I always thought when you got to put when these guys get really comfortable and Drake lives in like a $200 million house and he's flying around in a jumbo jet, you got to make him feel like his desperation to get good music. If he feels like, yo, I could do whatever I want. You're going to get some trash.
Starting point is 01:36:16 But when you get him back to the wall, you get any artist, a great artist back to the wall, gives you his best shit. Rick Ross, they call him a fucking, oh, you're a correctional officer. Best fucking music. Meek, they say he's completely obliterated. Yo, if you listen to them freestyles and how he was rapping,
Starting point is 01:36:32 I don't care with nothing because people have said, oh, Meek's still rapping. Yeah, he's still rapping. but meek rapping in 2015, 2016, compared to now, night and day. That nigga looked like he was trying to wrap his way out of the drive-thru. You know what I mean? He was looking like he was trying to wrap his way out of McDonald's, the checkers. Now you can tell he's chilling.
Starting point is 01:36:53 So I like when artists have pressure. I do. I do like the fact that people are saying Drake's most important album is coming 17 years in. Everybody says your first album is the best. why you get to live your whole life to create this one album you get to use all your life experiences you get to give your life story
Starting point is 01:37:14 people never heard it it is so distinct it's so unique you get to hone talents you get to figure out what works you get to use old songs it's your first it's your first impression your second album they call the sophomore slump at times but they think that you know
Starting point is 01:37:28 it's not as good at the first but like you know hopefully you could have a couple joints that show us that you're going to last a lot of times people think that third album is an album that you really lock in on really locking on that third album I mean let's look at most people's third albums I'm not going to count untitled unmastered with Kendrick
Starting point is 01:37:51 what's Kendrick third album I believe that's damn right am I wrong good kid mad city to pimper butterfly damn damn is the perfect mix of good kid mad city and to pimper butterfly So that's the mastery album, the third album. So you get the sophomore slump. The first one got to be like, you know, really the joint, right?
Starting point is 01:38:12 You get the reasonable doubt, right? You get the Elmatic, right? You get that one quintessential like main LP. And yes, they might have mixed taste before. You get the, you know, it's not thanking me later. I'll say that. But you get what I'm saying. I believe that usually around the third album,
Starting point is 01:38:34 we get to see what's going to happen with you. you. Are they going to have like two or three more projects we're going to care about or are we going to wind this down? It's a Cuevo type of thing. Wrap it up then. And we have to stop and just acknowledge for one second. It's like the LeBron factor. But it's LeBron except we're still expecting Drake to be in his fucking prime. He's turning 40 this year. And we're expecting that he's supposed to, right, do what LeBron James did with the Cavaliers. You know that one. season he brought the fucking cavalier to the fucking championship. That one championship they got.
Starting point is 01:39:11 And everybody could actually just admit like, yo, he did this shit by his fucking self damn there, right? People do expect Drake to be that now in his 16th or 17th or 18th year. Let's think about how many albums? How many, like how many projects has Drake dropped? It's over 10. Recount mix tapes, yes. and we're saying in like year 17
Starting point is 01:39:42 this is you the 17 arbitrary this is the most important album he's had how come no one says when Wayne says oh Carter 6 is on the way like oh no this is going to be the one
Starting point is 01:39:55 that defines it for Wayne no we know it's not how come when when Jay Z is like you know he's gonna announce an album we're now that oh this is the one that's going to tell us about his career no it's already set in stone
Starting point is 01:40:11 I think that's the underrated thing that people are not realizing. This guy has had a career to the point where we haven't seen any size of a falloff that in his fucking 17th year, 17th year, we're saying, you know what, this is the most important album you could ever drop. 17 years later. Imagine somebody saying that about LeBron James. Hey, you're 20th year. Or how much
Starting point is 01:40:46 LeBron's played at 22 years old? Jesus Christ When did he come in like in 2003? 2004. Imagine someone who said, no, this is the most important LeBron season of all time.
Starting point is 01:40:57 It's ridiculous. But it goes to show and I've always thought this about Drake. What's also made him great is stepping up to challenges. He could avoid it could avoid it all the rap battles.
Starting point is 01:41:10 He could avoid it all the situations where people are saying, well, man, we don't know how it's going to look if he don't drop a banger. But he's not avoided anything. He's not ducked any fades. And now we're at the point where people are really asking or suggesting that his most important album is now.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Interesting, right? I do want to get to this conversation about fame. And he kind of summed up Stephen A. Smith. I like Stephen A. Smith a lot. But his premise was this. And I'll kind of like summarize. He was just like, yo, Stephen A. Smith is an amazing journalist. He's amazing what he does in terms of sport journalism.
Starting point is 01:41:43 He's always been. But he, Steve Stout now, claims. that well when it comes to Stephen A. Stephen A. Smith these days with how he pops it and how he carries himself he's realized what's more important than his talent as being a great journalist is the fact that there's this
Starting point is 01:42:01 there's this fame that kind of follows his bravado and other things of the sort that let me let him play it. Stephen A. Smith. I think Stephen A. Smith has done so much shit that is about fame than the fact that he's actually a great journalist. He's clearly cashing out.
Starting point is 01:42:25 But his journalism, the thing that he's great at, I believe, is homogenized by the shit that he's doing for fame. That's one example of many examples. No, but it's a real one because it also has a real impact on what your legacy may be, which if you stop and think about it may be the one thing that could keep somebody from chasing that, which is that his legacy may be just as clouded with something. of this. I just know that I've seen that transition from like
Starting point is 01:42:52 journalists to like, yo. Yes, I agree with Steve Stout. Another great take by him. Stephen A. Smith went from, hey, I'm the basketball journalist to the basketball insider to the basketball like kind of talking
Starting point is 01:43:12 headed. I think Stephen A. Smith walks around now like a rock star and walks around like a late-night TV show that has political aspirations. All the things that people used to think they liked about him, he has gone a different route. And I'm not going to blame him because, you know, if this is truly what he wants to do, you can't tell him to be pigeonholes.
Starting point is 01:43:35 Like people tell me to still do, sorry, just to still do the Warren Sharaq. No one do it no more, right? I think this definitely matters and it does happen with Stephen A. Because Stephen A is someone that, I think he's, leans more you see he's a little bit different than me because he has more like journalistic like he was really like color in the lines on some journalism shit these days he's he's joe rogan he's he's camera on with big words he's just he's just an entertainer right like and there was a time that we didn't look at stephen a smith and say oh he's an entertainer we looked at him as
Starting point is 01:44:16 you know he's this journalist da da da and yes he is entertaining but we didn't look at him as an entertainer first. These days, Stephen A. Smith is purely an entertainer. Does he have great points? Yes, but you could tell based on how he's moving, entertainment is the main thing. Whatever's going to get the clicks. And I have a great deal with you.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Kenneth, let's go with you. Of respect for him, period. But this is what's happening. This is the new game. And I believe that may be what legacy is turning into. It's the story that's told about you. You couldn't get somebody to talk about him right now today without talking about all the other stuff.
Starting point is 01:44:55 And that does sustain. It happens to actors and musicians that are some of the greatest in the history of their field. But when you tell their story, it gets coupled with all of the other shit that goes on in their life. I mean, the idea that you actually left the music industry at that age and that point of your career,
Starting point is 01:45:14 and you didn't leave literally in that what you... Okay, all right. That was good. Yeah, so I agree with him of both points. I think Steve Stout's really smart. Always thought he was really smart. Okay, good. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:28 Where should we go next? I had to text Vlad just now. Vlad looked like he's removed the video where I interviewed him. I don't know if you had noticed that. I was about to react to that, too. DJ Vlad. Yeah. He's removed the hour video that I interviewed him.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Like, I interview Vlad for an hour. Yo, chat. Like, no homo or nothing? But the boy not looking good? The boy not looking good, though? I just, just, come on. Now, I know, I know, I know. No homo.
Starting point is 01:46:04 No homo, still, still. Is the boy not looking a little bit better? You know what? I look back in my older videos on Vlad, I'm like, I was fat as fuck. I hope I see a little bit of weight. You know, it's not about looking good. You know, we're not looks.
Starting point is 01:46:17 Actually, you know, maybe we are looks, max it but um definitely much healthier uh DJ Vlad academics we gotta go back to like some old interviews like you know what I gotta get back to yo this beard was good it was healthy I gotta figure out the fucking formal for the yo I remember this was the worst interview I did on Vlad
Starting point is 01:46:37 number one I'm fat as fuck but but um I stayed up in a studio with Uzi all night and literally like didn't get no sleep I got, I walked right into Vlad afterwards and I was someone looked at me and said, bro, you look like shit, go get, go take a nap. So I ask him. Yeah, I always someone told me that.
Starting point is 01:47:01 Like, you look like shit, go take an app. I hated this interview. Well, I probably said some, I'm always kicking a real. But like physically, like, trust me, like my eyes were kind of like, I'm drunk from the night before. I'm kind of like tired. But I'm really, and I do three hour interviews of Vlad. So I'm like, all right.
Starting point is 01:47:18 I'm gonna make it through. You know what me? I'm gonna kill some content. But every time I see the fucking like thumbnails for this, I'm like, I remember how fucking tired I was, dog. Like crazy tired. This one, I'm just fat. I don't know, ma'am.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Your boy was looking good in this one, I ain't gonna lie to you. Chat, y'all not that straight. Y'all could be like, yo, act. You looking good right here, Kat? You ain't looking good? You know, we're going to do. look a little better too, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:47:49 The summer coming. I'm going to do some burpees on something. I mean, I'm on the Kendrick Lamar workout playing, me, him and Kodak. We're going to do some burpees. Come on. Y'all see the growth of the hair. Like, come on, chat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Now, chat, obviously, is health as well. That's all we really promote. But, yeah, I kind of look at the differences. And I remember, I keep telling y'all at my, you know, heaviest. I don't know What's that one I just pulled up? The one I said I was tired I probably was like 260 bro
Starting point is 01:48:24 So I was 260 So if you want to know the difference in like 50 pounds for sure So I'm 260 in that other one I'm two Now I'm like 208 I'm 208 right here So 208 versus 260 So that's
Starting point is 01:48:39 Let's just call it 50 pounds That's 50 pounds difference So you know Hopefully you can promote You guys to do something more healthier. And again, I know when I talk about health, I drink every day still.
Starting point is 01:48:55 So I'm not going to be like, hey, you know, like eat your greens, but you know, make small lifestyle changes. And I think it could work out for you guys, right? I have a long way to go. I want to get to my ultimate goal is to like 180. I'm 5'9. 5.9.180 is not bad, right?
Starting point is 01:49:13 Probably in my 30s. Like, I don't got to be like 59-160. Like, what the fuck? Plus, 5-9-160, you frail, I think. Right? I don't know. My goal is like 185, 185. We don't got to get too skinny now.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Now you get too skinny now, these rappers definitely slapping you. Like, I do think people kind of look and be like, all right, well, you know, he's not that tall, but he's a little big boy. He's a big boy. You know? It's all good. All right. So I need to, so Vlad took the thing down. I just texted him like, I'm like, a flat.
Starting point is 01:49:47 I'm trying to react to this motherfucker. So Vlad, we do an interview. And before I do my interview, Vlad basically says, Act, you interview me. I want to address all this stuff. And we did. And it was an hour. And the views was crazy.
Starting point is 01:50:07 It did $300,000 in less than a day. But I look up now. I can't find it. So I don't know if Ari Spears is starting to sue them. I don't think Vlad would have been for that. I don't know if maybe he had to change the heart or maybe he said something on the video that, yeah, I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:50:26 But I know Vlad usually he's not missing out on a dollar. So I think he's still on the East Coast. So I'm really trying to figure out why the video is down. Anyway, we could react to some clips because that's the full video. Let's react to some clips. Again, I interviewed him. Erie Spears. Iries, Vlad.
Starting point is 01:50:53 Let's just kind of react to some shit. Now, if you guys don't know the whole drama between Erie Spears and DJ Vlad, after the Boosie saga with DJ Vlad, where Boosie basically says, hey, listen, I need $5,000 more. People didn't know that he was getting $25,000 already. Vlad basically then says, and I keep telling Vlad, he's in a less run the numbers era,
Starting point is 01:51:14 because that's what keeps happening. So he says, I'm going to run the numbers. And he realized that after, you know, expenses, the profit that came out of the Bousie interview was pretty much $35,000. He would give Bousie 25 and he would get 10. So when Bousie asked initially for $35,000, he said, well, I'm not going to make any money. Then Bousie said, well, I need $30 at least. And for him, he said that it didn't feel like it was worth it because why do an interview do all this work?
Starting point is 01:51:44 And I get $5,000 and you get $30,000. So Vlad was still down. to pay the 25 but not go up to 30 or even 35. Boosie took that as some type of, you know, a dis. He said, I'm going to do my own interview and even call Vlad Cheap. He hung upon him black. Since then, Boosey has dropped his own interview. It's on Patreon.
Starting point is 01:52:07 You guys can go check it out. And people have been kind of like giving their thoughts about that particular subject. What's also happening is that some of the people that work with Vlad, for example, Ari Spears, and I've worked with Vlad for a while, they're kind of looking at him be like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:52:26 I need to talk about my own race. So they went to Vlad and specifically Ari Spears specifically and said, yo, I need a race. Ari Spears was getting $4,000 a show or an interview with Vlad pretty much every month because he was being requested
Starting point is 01:52:41 to do an interview every month. Vlad, after being confronted by Airy Spears about he wanted a race said okay you know what I'm gonna try to do the numbers the dude basically doesn't pick up when Vlad wants to talk to him he's kind of like like super demanding and I think Vlad is just choosing to deal with this differently than he dealt with booze he's like man fuck this guy you know like you know these guys are acting like I'm like I'm begging them or they're doing so much for me dude you were making 4,000 and I was making 4,000 so in this situation looks like when
Starting point is 01:53:18 the profits came in, Vlad would make half the profits and, and, um, Harry Spears would make the other half of the profits, as opposed to Boosie, who made probably about 70% of the profits. Anyway, let me play a little bit of what Vlad said in his own words and, you know, um, you might have a better understanding. Fick Harry Spears. So the $25,000 thing comes out. I'm out with my kids, right?
Starting point is 01:53:45 We're doing like an escape room, if you know what that is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? I'm out with my twins. We're doing an escape room. And I'm enjoying my time with my kids. So then I get these text messages from Aries. Yo, Boosie's getting 25,000. We need to renegotiate. And look, look at these comments. Look at these YouTube comments. I only watch Vlad TV when Aries on. Yo, Aries needs a raise. Aries is my favorite guest. He's the only one I watched. And I said, well, first of all, you just got raised up.
Starting point is 01:54:25 You get nowhere near the views of Boosie. Nowhere near the views. Like, Boosie's just a way bigger figure. The shows that Boosie does are massive compared to what Aery Spears does. Like, Boosie on camera is way more entertaining than damn near anybody. Boosie's a force, man. He's an awesome personality. And on top of it, when I told him, you know, the whole thing with Busy getting paid 25,
Starting point is 01:54:58 Boosie was really getting paid 20, but then I figured out a way to get more money by doing house tours. You see what I'm saying? So it's really 20 plus 5 for the house tour. And a lot of times the interview might not make the 20, but the house tour will make some extra money. And overall, it makes money. Me and Ari's doing house tours. And I'm like, like, fam, like, you just got raised up. We can't have a conversation.
Starting point is 01:55:21 based on YouTube comments. You're not going to convince me what I'm worth. Look at these people. They say they come only for me and you need to up my salary. Now, and again, I hate, you know, I don't like Dick Rod and everybody knows. Even my biggest ops, when I'm getting into it with them,
Starting point is 01:55:43 like say Rory and Millie Mall or anybody else, when other niggas is kicking their back in, I don't like piling on. I like one-on-one squabbles. I don't like, I think it's some suck of shit when you know, that shows you can't really beat somebody or you can't really get the better of them. When you wait until everybody jumping him, then now you're like, yeah, I told you here, bitch. Nah, I'm going to catch you on a doly, one-on-one. And I'm not the type of person, like, you know, I don't like when people, like, even when Boosie said, yo, you're just getting it to him side because you're his boy.
Starting point is 01:56:14 I'm like, bro, I don't got no problem with you, Boosie. Like, and I'm not that type of nigger. I don't jump on people bandwagon. I'm like, I don't know, I mean, but I do want to point out, so I say that to say, I don't got under with Ari Spirers. And if I did have someone with Erie Spears, you wouldn't hear about it for the first time when Vlad got a problem with it. When I got a problem with a nigga, you won't hear about it when I got a problem with it.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Not when somebody else got a problem, but that's a bitch-ass thing and shit. So what I'm saying here is nothing that's biased. Like, put it like this. And this is the ARI Spears right here. Yeah, Ari Spears. Look, all right. Let's go to Vlad's. channel, right? The reason why I thought, I know why Vlad is probably thinking what you said
Starting point is 01:56:55 is ridiculous is because of this. Look, the last couple of videos, right? Look, he's had Erie Spears, dogface, me, whack, everybody. Like, y'all know what it is. Big act. Biggest numbers. Come on. Come on. You got to go to the biggest. All right. The chat thing is is in there. All right. So click on this. This is the interview I just did 17 hours ago. Um, when you scroll down on the comments, and, and I'm going to show him how ridiculous, okay, ridiculous, these, these things about comments are, is that eventually you're going to find comments. Look, right here. I'm here for AC, 48, 48 likes, right?
Starting point is 01:57:37 The chat niggas is in there doing their thing. They're like, extra content from AC we good. We waiting for this bitch ass nigga to stream. We got some extra content. got bombed and it would be ridiculous for me to be like you're flat i'm the reason why you're chatting no we're doing a collaboration of course but to to use that comment to be like yo they're only here for me son like come on you know i mean like come on we got to be honest and the reason why i pointed out on my video is that i watch vlad tv interviews they say it for everybody if 1090 j goes up
Starting point is 01:58:15 up there, there's going to be 1090 Jake's supporters. We're like, yo, we're here because Jake here. That's how it works. That's why it's a collaboration. Chat niggies are going to go watch that, right? And I'm pretty sure there's some people who might not be chat niggas who are just Vlad's supporters who are watching it too. You can't let that get to your head to think like you're some huge star or whatever
Starting point is 01:58:34 the case is. And you might be. But again, you should probably base that on your own content, not Vlad's content. Right? You're always going to see, like, look, I'm pretty sure you're going to see more comments in here. Like, yo, oh shit, I'm glad when AC is here. So I said, look, AC, acts for 2,000 more. I looked at the numbers.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Vlad owes you. By the way, I'm going to say this too. I'm going to say this too. Honestly, I'm going to say this too. And this might need his own clip. Or, oh, yeah, YouTube React is correct to this. I think this also was going to fuck up. So I said to Vlad, he fucked up the ecosystem for himself.
Starting point is 01:59:11 he created this idea of people charging, right? And now he's at a point where these people, they don't want like $1,500 bucks $2,000. These guys who all want $10,000, $25,000. Here's the thing. It'd be just okay if the guys who were requesting the money were bringing a wild amount of views. They don't.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Like put it like this. I just did this interview with Vlad. I'm pretty sure after he drops like 80 parts, because you know me, I love to talk. I probably gave him three hours of content easy. He's going to make whatever amount of money he makes from this. I charge Vlad zero. I charge Vlad zero.
Starting point is 01:59:53 You could imagine Vlad's like when I work with AC, obviously now Vlad's going to come to my platform. We're going to do an interview. Like I look at it as a swap. I don't look at it as, you know, I don't believe in this economy of, I don't believe it. But if Vlad, let's say Vlad makes $50,000. Let me bring it out because that's boozy numbers.
Starting point is 02:00:11 Let's say Vlad makes 20,000 off an interview with me, right? 20,000. So if Vlad makes 20, all right, let's go to 15. Let's not be too pompous. 15,000. He makes 15,000 off an interview with that. And I'm going to most likely do more views on this platform than, let's say, Aries Spears. You see why Vlad probably also is having a conflict of interest to be like,
Starting point is 02:00:34 I don't even have to pay at. But this other bitch-ass nigga over here wants, makeup, wants this one. I'm not calling you a bitch, Arias. But that's also what's happening with Vlad because not all Vlad's guests are paid. Right. So certain people Vlad has a relationship with. And I think what's happening is that once not everybody's getting paid and only some are getting paid, the people who are getting paid get entitled, then the people who ain't getting paid who might need money, they start saying what's up with my money. And that's why I said Vlad is going to go through it because everybody.
Starting point is 02:01:10 body is like, put it like this. If I was a guy who really gave a fuck that much, you don't think right now, like, me and Vlad just did a fire interview, you should be fuddle be bussy. You think I couldn't be like, yo, Vlad, let me get that 10 grand ram, bro. I don't want that. I'm good. Give it the Aries. You give it Aries. Let's go. But that is also a thing that's in the mix. The people who ain't never getting paid, they'd want to talk about getting paid. The people who are getting paid, they want to get paid more. But this is why I blame Vlad, because this is his own ecosystem. Everybody's looking at each other. Right. If I was on some airy spear shit or boozy shit, I would look up and say, so if you're paying boozy that, I think one of my interviews
Starting point is 02:01:55 with him did like human lily like maybe like two million. Well, if he's getting like four and a half or whatever, oh, give me $15,000. No, I don't look at content like that. Right. Like I'm, I'm looking at it as I respect Vlad TV's audience. I respect the cross promotional platform. And that's why I don't like paying guests. Because I still look at interviews as cross-promotional promotion. Cross-platform promotion. So some of your fans are going to come over here to see what you were talking about.
Starting point is 02:02:25 Like, let's say a little TJ. And some of the people that watch me might be like, oh shit, little TJ's dropping a new album. Let's go listen to what he got going on. We heard the story. That's how I look at it. But this money shit is why we're, We're seeing this is going to be like again for some of these guys.
Starting point is 02:02:41 You know, and I think Vlad fucked up a little bit when Vlad said the number, 25. He said I've been paying 25,000. A lot of niggas probably thought Vlad max pay was like 10,000. 25,000. What? So it is what it is. So, you know, again, I ain't going to allow. Vlad hit me like three times for the interview.
Starting point is 02:03:01 And I forgot why we didn't like schedule it initially. but um I was like I was like his paid employees must be like fucking acting up when he's like
Starting point is 02:03:16 act let's get one in I don't know why I think this shit is funny I think Wack gets paid I think Wack gets paid I don't take payment from from Vlad and by the way I don't do payment
Starting point is 02:03:29 with no one like that's my thing like I don't pay Wack Wack Wack wouldn't pay me I don't pay Adam Adam wouldn't pay me
Starting point is 02:03:40 I don't pay Vlad Vlad wouldn't pay me like it's very mutual like it's one of those you know because at this point I only go on platforms that I like right
Starting point is 02:03:49 if I like your platform I'm on there and I'm on there because I want to be there right but I understand the economy right I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 02:03:57 I think I think Vlad pays most people actually so chat maybe I'm boo boo booed a fool right because I think 1090 Jake get paid I think 1090 Jake
Starting point is 02:04:06 Wack get paid Ares gets paid Actually I think most of these guys on here gets paid For the most yeah I think most of these guys do get paid by by Vlad I don't know I'm good bro I'm good like For me I don't look at Vlad as a Oh you're paying me to come on your platform I'm on Vlad platform because I fuck with him
Starting point is 02:04:33 Like the moment I don't fuck with him I ain't on this platform You know what I mean I'm not gonna be like you I'm here for the check like fuck out of here But that's just me But, and no shade to anyone who do get paid by Vlad, they, you know, you should. You know, it's shit. Vlad's at the point, basically, Vlad created the infrastructure that he's paid. And I told Vlad this, you're going to have to deal with this. You see, me, when people start talking about money, I send him to Vlad.
Starting point is 02:04:57 Ben Ten looked me in my face. He said, act, you know, we wouldn't charge you. And I'm thinking, I wouldn't pay. He said, we wouldn't charge. And I'm thinking I wouldn't pay. So I said, instantly, I said, all right, we just got to get you to Vlad TV. But with that, you can't knock it. I can't knock it.
Starting point is 02:05:14 And what I think Vlad didn't realize the outcome is going to be, there's not going to be much academics on your platform, Vlad. I'm going to be honest. What does that mean? Guys who fuck with you and just look at media as media, like, I don't think when Charlemagne comes on there, I don't think he's getting paid. He don't need to get paid.
Starting point is 02:05:34 But you're interviewing a lot of guys who aren't in that position and it's probably in their benefit to say, like if I'm, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm whack, I'm at least getting five grand. Like, yo, let me just give me five grand from my travels. Right? Wack gives them a great amount of content. But Vlad has to now realize that you're,
Starting point is 02:05:58 you're synonymous with pain, right? It's like, I know some girls they work in the strip club. I saw two girls having an argument about, one girl giving an experience to a dude for free when he always pays for it. It's like when you're known as a guy who pays for the pussy, it's frowned upon that anybody gives you the pussy for free. You get what I'm saying? That's what's happening with Vlad.
Starting point is 02:06:25 They look at Vlad as he's cutting the check. So if you're the guy who's doing the Vlad interview and he's not paying you, you feel like boo-boo the clown. You're like, damn, he's paying everybody but me. Now, obviously, I don't look at it like that because I obviously do it for free. but it's because I look First I don't believe in that infrastructure Period
Starting point is 02:06:42 You know But yeah You know I'm pretty sure most of those conversations Are gonna come up Everybody's gonna look at their numbers They're gonna be like well My shit kinda bustin all here
Starting point is 02:06:55 Vlad should give me a raise Right All right Anyway Oh it's like a hot saw takeover Huh And if you don't then maybe we're done Oh wow
Starting point is 02:07:10 Playing like that. I said, listen, I'm out with my kids, right? I don't have access to my laptop, to the numbers or whatever else. So I get home and I said, yo, now I'm home. Let's have a conversation about the numbers. He said, cool, let's do it. I said, cool, what time works for you at 5 o'clock? Bet? I change around my schedule. I clear my schedule out. And I'm like, okay, me and me and Aries are going to have a business conversation at 5 o'clock. Five o'clock rolls around. He doesn't respond.
Starting point is 02:07:46 I said, all right, cool. Next morning, maybe around, I don't know, 10, 30, 11 o'clock, I hit him up again. I said, do you still want to have this conversation? You know what he said? What? Yeah, at some point. I looked at my phone, and I said,
Starting point is 02:08:05 I am done with this, my fucker forever. Gary Spears Oh shit Vlad on his villain era I'm gonna tell all y'all guys Something And I told this The Vlad off camera
Starting point is 02:08:18 I might have to sit on camera I've always looked at my platform like this I took the Jay Z method When I couldn't You know I wanted to get on radio I said I got to build a platform And build a personality Both at once
Starting point is 02:08:31 And leverage both to help each And the ultimate ultimate goal was always that you never want to be bigger than the platform because the platform is the umbrella you want the platform to be bigger than you meaning this i'll use vlad's an example vlad y'all are going to throw vlad in his vince mcmann error where vlad is now realizing he he could pull as much views without you as he could with you as he could with you And once he realized that, all that you want 20,000, 30,000 shit is going to stop. You see, what's happening is that y'all making the white man realize the white man going to figure out a way not to give you the bread.
Starting point is 02:09:20 He's not going to steal from you. But it's only so long you're going to keep like, you know, oh, we got to pay the Piper. He's realizing he got on camera and he's now realized. Look, if you look at the last couple days of Vlad TV interviews, let's look at anything over 100,000. All right, mine did 100,000. What else did 100,000? This Jake went about to do 100,000. Look, we're going down. Everybody else, they hit 100K.
Starting point is 02:09:54 There's no 100Ks. Vlad himself on camera, 100K, right? And this is in the last four days. There's three videos. mine Jake Vlad let me make sure
Starting point is 02:10:10 I'm not you see this is the thing when you told him I run this is really running the numbers now this Ari Spears one is about to hit 100K but it's because Vlad strategically dropped
Starting point is 02:10:20 after he's disson but me oh Nicholas Irvin Nicholas Irvin Nick Nicholas Irvin okay two Jake's about to be there it's at 98
Starting point is 02:10:30 is that 98 3 but after that the fourth is going to be look is DJ Vlad himself let's keep going okay we have whack
Starting point is 02:10:46 you know whack you know whack go whack going to put up some numbers I ain't a lot of you so whack right so we're seeing all different names none repeating yet right me whack Jake um Nicholas Irvin and Vlad we all got a hundred K video
Starting point is 02:11:00 right okay Jake has two Jake has two right here actually three Jake is killing it actually Jake three so Jake and Jake here and Wack has two right
Starting point is 02:11:12 but then when you go down Vlad has two the point I'm trying to make is that every time Wack puts his face on camera he's getting 100K views you know what he's starting to think I'm one of the top niggas on this platform
Starting point is 02:11:29 let me I hate to tell y'all but DJ Vlad is a top three guest on Vlad TV. It sounds crazy. Because you're like, no, Vlad TV is DJ Vlad.
Starting point is 02:11:44 No. He's showing that he could get in front of the camera. And this is the best thing he could do to remedy when people think that they're values so much. Because these guys are looking at Vlad to say, bro, you're not going to get 183,000 views if I'm not sitting here. Vlad is showing him on some Vince McMahon shit. I'll do it.
Starting point is 02:12:08 Remember when Vince McMahon started wrestling and he became the damn near most popular wrestler Vince McMahon? Yeah. You have Vlad basically saying
Starting point is 02:12:18 oh you thought I was just a voice. I'll come and do it myself and you know he's got more money he's got more money off responding to Busy with like two to three clips that could probably make up for what was booking another Boosie thing.
Starting point is 02:12:40 So I'm telling all of his look another time he's on look 300k 300k here he has 183 here um before then look look at this before then he's back he was on saying some shit hold on
Starting point is 02:12:57 where is that where's the first one I actually got to watch him skip bail his joints skip bail his joints I never thought I'd see skip bailes do an interview like that okay hold on where is it yeah yeah Oh, part two says Okay, so there's a
Starting point is 02:13:20 I know there's another part So he did 300K here What's the first one he did Talking about Bousie? Um Maybe it was a while ago then That one was Did he remove it again?
Starting point is 02:13:39 Why is Vlad removing the shit? Oh, 700K My bad Look, 700K So he did a million With two responses So again, I'm telling y'all What y'all are doing
Starting point is 02:14:07 and y'all just creating Vince McMahon. Because I think Vlad is starting to look at it to say, if I'm going to do a video and I'm going to make $100,000, if I'm going to make $100,000 with Boussey, I got to break off Bucie $70,000. Because that's going to be two interviews, right? Let's say he makes $50,000, right? Even though he said it's 35.
Starting point is 02:14:28 So that'll be three. Sorry, that's three Bucy interviews. So in three Bucy interviews, Bucy makes $75,000 and he gets $25, right? Now, he's getting 100%. He's just got to be Vince McMahon. So I'm telling y'all right now, man. I think Vlad is a lot of y'all niggas coming to Vlad with a race
Starting point is 02:14:51 or some other shit after he running numbers. He might tell y'all niggas to kick rocks and suck a dick. You know what I mean? He's realizing, man, I could make this bread without y'all niggas. And one thing I'm going to say to the people like Busy, I said this to you before. It's too late. The platform is big and,
Starting point is 02:15:08 enough, Vlad don't need you. You're not big in the program no more. Maybe back then when everyone was calling me a face. But right now, Vlad is the leading viewgetter of all hip hop platforms. He gets more views than everybody. So Vlad, obviously didn't say this,
Starting point is 02:15:27 but so I'm saying it. He's on his One Monkey Can't Stop the Show era. And he's shown it the biggest way. Boosie, even you ain't stopping the show, nigger. I'm going to make more without you. And that's why I think the Aries Spirriss nigger, he's like, this raccoon, this raccoon eyes looking, nigga, who have me spending money on makeup artists for him? Get this thing to fuck out of here. He'd violated that, nigga.
Starting point is 02:15:52 So we're going to see who acts for a raise next, man. We'll see. Anyway, anything else he said, why didn't you remove the video? Bro, he went so much in. There's other videos. Give me one second if we'll find it. Eries and blood. But about actual numbers?
Starting point is 02:16:24 Because here's the thing. I can find you a thousand comments that say, I hate Ari Spears. He's the worst guest on Vlad TV. Can I use those comments to lower your fee? Oh, shit. You know what I mean? Because you're trying to use these stupid-ass comments
Starting point is 02:16:36 to raise your fees, like the stupidest shit I've ever heard of. So I get home and I said, yo, now I'm home. Let's have a conversation about the numbers. He said, cool, let's do it. I said, cool, what time works for you? At 5 o'clock, bet. I change around my schedule.
Starting point is 02:16:52 I clear my schedule out. and I'm like, okay, me and me and Aries are going to have a business conversation at 5 o'clock. Five o'clock rolls around, he doesn't respond. I said, all right, cool. All right, we see this part. Who are just jealous-ass pocket. The whole thing about having your own business and reaching a certain level of success is you get to decide who you want to work with.
Starting point is 02:17:18 You get to decide how you want to spend time with the type of people that are respectful. They can have regular business conversations with you. And not people like this who are just jealous-ass pocket watchers. Because here's the thing, right? There's two types of jealous pocket watchers out there. There's the broke ones. Oh, right? And we've been there before.
Starting point is 02:17:40 Yeah. I remember being a broke DJ and looking at like Kit Capri and Jam Master Jay and Diplo. Like, damn, they're making thousands of dollars doing shows and I'm in a fucked up studio. Now, I was never jealous, but was I broken pocket watching? Of course. I pocket watch now. Oh, I can't pay my bills. Like, I'm fucked up.
Starting point is 02:18:00 I'm kind of jealous of what they're getting. It's motivating me to, like, do something, right? I get that type of jealousy. But then you got motherfuckers like, Airy. Yo, your figure, your girl figure right, she said you were short when I seen you. I was not short. I see you in Miami, right?
Starting point is 02:18:17 I was not short. I was 5'9. You had on heels or some shit. Stop the cap. Somebody said they said, Vlad was sexed on black women, are those allegations true? Vlad only fuck black women.
Starting point is 02:18:29 I'm keeping the being. Vlad don't fuck no white girls, period. Like, facts. Like, Vlad, like, Vlad is only black woman, point blank period. I think he admitted that, though. Vlad don't like white woman. Y'all don't know too much about Vlad. I ain't trying to expose my nigga.
Starting point is 02:18:48 But, like, like, low-key, even sometimes, like, Vlad be having some really pro-black stances. and one of those reasons because like, you know, shit, the woman always in his court is black woman, bro. Like, he told, he flat out told him, told some dude who had some anti-black shit going on. He told him he couldn't put him on a platform, not even for the culture. He was just like, yo, my wife's black. Like, black woman, bro.
Starting point is 02:19:17 Like, I wonder if y'all noticed. Spears, who's doing better than he ever has, who's making more money than he's ever made in his whole career. Now, I'm sure, bro. And he's still jealous as fuck over Bousie. He's jealous of another man because he's making more money on a platform than him. Now, I disagreed. I don't think any of the people are jealous of Bousie. It's like they didn't know that Vlad had that budget to pay.
Starting point is 02:19:47 Like, imagine charging for a job. Say you're an electrician, right? And somebody asked you for a quote. Right? And this is why, like, as a DJ, I'll use that. This is a better example. As a DJ, when you're talking to people about a job, like, for example, okay, there's a wedding. So when it comes to like being a DJ, weddings are one of the most lucrative, you know, jobs you can do.
Starting point is 02:20:14 Why? People only get married once. They want it done well. And they're willing to overspend in a ridiculous fashion because they want quality and they want premium service. and basically they're usually open to spend an ordinate amount because this is called a one-time-only fee. When someone asks you, okay, so what is the price to do X, Y, and Z? What's the price to bring some lights to DJ? This is how we want it.
Starting point is 02:20:50 Any DJ that is a good, you know, I won't say Hagler, but a good negotiator. the first thing they're going to say is what's your budget you don't give a price you say what's your budget what's your budget implies i need to see what you're willing to spend before i tell you what i charge if if it wasn't about that they would just say oh no i charge it doesn't matter what event big or small it's it's just a thousand dollars no what's your budget and then you usually take the budget and then you you kind of work with the budget say well so i could do this but I can't do this light show and da-da-da-da-da I can't bring the fogs and you know the speaker is going to be able to hold this type of space but if you know I have a I have a photographer that's usually my partner if you want them to be added to it will give you a discount just give me an extra thousand like you get to wheeling deal the point is you work off a niggis budget why do I say that and how does it apply to this it applies to this because Vlad keeps thinking that the niggis jealous of busy he has area's
Starting point is 02:21:59 to me has never said like, oh, Boussey don't deserve. He didn't know the budget was that big. When, and this is how people think about the interview game. Wait, you're down to pay $25,000 for a fucking interview? That means I'm not even tapping in anywhere near to what the budget is or where the ceiling of the budget. So, Vlad, I believe, has that wrong. He's not jealous of Bousie. He didn't know the extent of the budget.
Starting point is 02:22:31 Like put it like this. If I paid a contractor to, I don't know, build me a fence. And I paid that contractor $80,000. Right? I'm just making up numbers. Say I get another contractor. And I said, I want to build another fence over there. And the contract is, okay, we can do it for $6,000.
Starting point is 02:22:54 I guarantee the moment they found out that I paid for a fence on the other side, $80,000. they're going to be like, fuck, I should have charged him 20. Because his budget for building fences already that's been established is up to 80,000. That's what I was trying to get Vlad to understand. No, he's making way more money ever. And it clouds his fucking judgment so bad that he wants to crash out. He doesn't even want to have a conversation. He thinks that these stupid-ass comments justify his position.
Starting point is 02:23:25 So I said, yo, I'm fucking done. Fuck him. He's not welcome to the platform anymore. I don't give a fuck. No more makeup? Yeah, no more makeup. I'm sorry, Candace. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:23:35 I'm sorry. She's a sweetheart too, man. Candace is so great. I kind of feel bad that we're not going to hire her every month to do, you know, ARI's makeup. And I said, I'm fucking done. I'm not doing this shit anymore because Aries was making it after expenses about half the profit. And I said, you know, I could get in front of the camera myself and make that. Vince McMahon.
Starting point is 02:23:58 See? That's what. Let me tell you. And I keep telling you, I'm not trying to be narcissistic here. It might come across as it. You know what everybody's saying? Academics don't got them problems. Why?
Starting point is 02:24:12 I get the most views when I'm sitting here by myself. There's no nigga that could be like, you know what? I guess his views when he's with me. Yeah, okay. I get the most views when I'm by my fucking self. And I think these guys who own these platforms are starting to realize maybe we should do the same. We will see. We will see.
Starting point is 02:24:41 Now, Aries Spears responded. This is what he responded with. Chezschez's response out. You tell me how you value this response, right? Because I didn't feel like I really needed to. But I'm going to address it because the warrior-like spirit in me to say Ares, because that's my zodiac, is fighting it. But I'm going to try to be a gentleman about it as much as I can. Apparently, Vlad decided to do an interview where he's taking shots at me and throwing me under the bus.
Starting point is 02:25:06 Now, I hate to keep pausing it, but I want to, you know, because I'm fair, And I'm not just, everybody keeps saying, oh, you're Vlad's friend. No, I'm calling, I'm calling Spade of Spade, just like how it is. Yo, Aerie Spears, or whoever, is the same thing I said to Meno. Y'all, y'all keep losing in this battle.
Starting point is 02:25:28 Vlad is making 10,000 off his response to you, and you're going on Instagram Live. That's his entire point why he talks to you like that. You don't have a platform. You don't have a platform to run to that you can monetize a response that people would care about that everyone's going to share. Vlad goes to his paid platform. He responds to boosts.
Starting point is 02:25:52 He gets a million and two clips in two days. You know what that money is about 10 grand after everything is done? Because it's not short videos. And y'all keep wondering, well, you see why he's probably reluctant to pay y'all, megas. Y'all ran to Instagram live. And it's nothing wrong. I'm not saying nothing is wrong with it, but the point of what I've said to all the y'all from the get-go
Starting point is 02:26:17 is that platform matters. You're not bigger than the platform. Because as long as Vlad could bring the drama that you're responding to for free, back to his paid platform, he gets cold, hard cash. So that's what needs to be thought about. When y'all are going into whatever, whatever,
Starting point is 02:26:42 you're not beefing with Vlad. You're beefing with the fact that he has an established platform for over 20 years and you don't. The reason why Busy and Aries Spirr have this problem, they don't have anybody who will pay them the same amount of Vlad Wolf for an interview. Why? Because no one with an established platform to that extent would do it.
Starting point is 02:27:07 That's why Vlad is beating y'all. Y'all got to respond on Instagram Live. He's going to go make money off of you by responding on his pay platform. The beef here is not with you and Vlad. The beef here is that y'all keep claiming y'all built Vlad or y'all did whatever, but what's left for y'all to show? Is y'all being disgruntled over pay instead of realizing what the guy now has is a platform that the more you cry, he's going to go back to the same platform without you
Starting point is 02:27:36 and make money hand over fist. and all you're left to do is, oh, I want to get my side out on Instagram, on in the car. You already, not saying y'all ain't helped build this platform, but the platform is already built. The platform is already built. And this is why Vlad is talking to y'all like that because he's realizing one monkey don't stop the show and nobody bigger than the fucking program. The program is the Vlad TV platform, which at this point in independent media gets the most views of anybody. So now All he does is he's monetizing
Starting point is 02:28:17 Y'all And that's what I asked Vlad early on this I said Vlad Is this your friend? Because I do believe When you have friends Like you go You can't go too far
Starting point is 02:28:26 And Giving the lick Like giving you know The fucking The fucking jab You gotta kind of like Like Back up now
Starting point is 02:28:36 You gotta give one of the world's jab You can't go with the Upper Cut trying to knock him out And I asked that And well he said that him and Aries weren't friends, and I ain't going to lie, he eviscerated Aries Spears. He eviscerated him. But I just want to point that out once again, but let me play it.
Starting point is 02:28:55 Apparently, Vlad decided to do an interview where he's taking shots at me and throwing me under the bus. And let me just say for the record, Vlad, you are a coward, a narcissist, and a hypocrite. Because I didn't even really watch the whole video because what turned me off immediately was he started out by saying, we're not friends. you've said to me in my face on multiple occasions that we are friends but now all of a sudden because I asked you for a bump in pay and that pissed you off we're not friends so which is it tell the truth and let me give you all a little bit of back story so basically I call Vlad and said look I feel like I want a little bit of bump and pay because I know my value you once had Lord Jamar goffrey Tony Ayo boozy and me all of which many times people said were your best guess
Starting point is 02:29:45 Who's the only one left? Me. Gawre left, Jamar left, Yale left, and Boozy left. Now, I don't know how to take that first part. He says, Vlad, you told academics we're not friends. But that's a lot. You told me we were friends. I don't know the nature of their relationship.
Starting point is 02:30:08 I can't speak on it. I can't speak on it. I'm going to be honest, I did think they were friends. They kind of, the way they spoke on camera felt like there was some friendly aspect to it. But again, you're clearly not friends. It's one party of the friendship says you're not friends, right? Like, you know, friendship is not a one-sided thing. Face on multiple occasions that we are friends, but now all of a sudden because I asked you for a bump in pay and that pissed you off.
Starting point is 02:30:40 Also, I will say that, listen, for anybody who having wise ideas with Vlad, and again, I'm not disson. y'all are encouraging Vlad and on. Vlad got y'all about the balls, hook line and sync. When you walk into Vlad, I'll give you how it looks. You walk into Vlad, they hand you an iPad with a thing, and it's like a contractor signing. You're going to sign this release, and basically they own it in perpetuity. So even if you're mad, Vlad could fuck with you every day by posting your videos every
Starting point is 02:31:06 day and he owns it every day. That's what he's doing, a boozy and Airy Spears. They're mad at him, and he keep making money off them. You get what I'm saying? But yeah, you do sign a release. You know, you sign a release that say he owns the footage, he has the rights to exploit it, post it, repurpose it, license it at any juncture he wants to. And yeah, if he wants to post, you know, shit, he's gotten how many boozy interviews, he can just keep posting throwback clips of Boosie forever. That's a fact.
Starting point is 02:31:39 And for the people who are saying, well, Flash should take their content off the channel. Why? At least in his perspective, why? He's making money off of them. They have no legal recourse. They can't tell him, take it off. He owns it. We're not friends. So which is it? Tell the truth. And let me give you all a little bit of back story. So basically I call Vlad and said, look, I feel like I want a little bit of bump in pay because I know my value. You once had Lord Jamar, Goffrey, Tony Ayo, Boozy and me, all of which many times people said were your best guess who's the only one left me goffrey left
Starting point is 02:32:20 jamar left yale left and boozy left i'm the last one standing also here's another thing with i will say about vlad interviews right airy spears vlad okay let's just type in this is before
Starting point is 02:32:37 well now it's the back and before but if you type in erie spears and you go down like you'll notice because when i was I was trying to look for what Aery Spears said on his own podcast about Vlad. When you go down, all of the interviews, this just start bumping up. And this is one I think he talked about Vlad. But every video of his is a Vlad TV interview.
Starting point is 02:33:00 That's one thing I'll say about Vlad TV and how their platform kind of like, if you're a creator, you got to be careful with Vlad TV. And this is actually genuine advice. Vlad posts so many parts. it'll like because I don't like happens to me sometimes like I'll be looking up for my my latest content so I'll just search my name and hoping to find like one of my videos
Starting point is 02:33:22 and I'll find Vlad videos because it'll drown the algorithm out of anybody else's content with you so ARI Spears honestly I don't even know if he has any online presence other than Vlad like it's only Vlad only Vlad so like put like this
Starting point is 02:33:37 I know he has a YouTube channel but his YouTube channel won't even get the light of air because he has a million interviews or parts with Vlad. So it drowns out all the other shit. Remember, these are algorithms, so it only works with, oh, Aery Spears. But I'm pretty sure Aery Spears might have other content.
Starting point is 02:33:56 I don't know. Look, I'm scrolling out. It might have other content. You don't know. But maybe he would want people to see some of his stand-up. Maybe he wants to see some of his other stuff. But all we're going to see for the most part is Aery Spears and Vlad. And I think that's the thing there.
Starting point is 02:34:13 where, you know, I don't know how these guys process it, but you have to be careful about, right? Especially when you're trying to also either cross-promote or put your own content out. People go, yo, I watch the show because of you. Yo, I subscribe to his channel. The moment your interview's over, I unsubscribe. There's value in that. So you're mad at me because I'm recognizing my worth.
Starting point is 02:34:41 And I told you I wanted to be fair. I wouldn't even say him pay me what you pay boozy. I get it. From a numbers business standpoint, I get it. I'm just asking you to be a little bit fair. And now here's the thing. Again, you're a liar, you're a coward, and you're a hypocrite. Because what you do is you want to be seen so badly instead of just doing what you do best, which is stay behind the camera. Okay, this is also where Erie Spears fucked up. Erie Spears actually believe that we're clicking on the video for his opinion. TV, I think Vlad is now popping on these guys.
Starting point is 02:35:19 Niggas watch Vlad TV interviews at this point. Half the reasons for Vlad. Whether you like or don't like the police questions, sometimes you're like, Vlad, shut up, let the guest talk. Half the reasons for Vlad. And what he just said there shows me that he has a misunderstanding of Vlad's importance, where he's like, you should shut up and stay behind the. camera. Well, if you think that, why your podcast ain't popping without him? So he's trying to bring
Starting point is 02:35:54 Vlad down. It's acting like Vlad ain't important. He is. Because what you do is you want to be seen so badly. Instead of just doing what you do best, which is stay behind the camera. Two times you asked to come to my shows. One, I forget where it was in L.A. I think it was Oxnard or Bray or whatever. And then the other one at the Nova Theater, both times I gave you free tickets. You said to me both times, yo, shout me out, shout me out. Why is that? Because it's so important for you to have attention on yourself. And I didn't shout you out because I knew that.
Starting point is 02:36:29 That was my moment. That was my time. When I'm on your show, it's both our times. So there's that. Then here's the- And he's spinning the camera and something, shit, got mad foggy. When I'm on your show, it's both our times. Oh, that's hot breath.
Starting point is 02:36:44 That's hot breath, y'all. That's hot breath. The whole camera got foggy. That's hot breath. That's hot breath, y'all. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. You turned the iPhone 17 camera, nigger,
Starting point is 02:37:00 into a flip phone pixelated joint real quick, nigga. That's a dragon breath. Holy. Oh, shit. Okay. Back up a little bit. A little bit. Okay?
Starting point is 02:37:12 That's it. So there's that. Then here's the other thing. You went and talk shit about my podcast partner. Andy Steinberg, who you befriended. Both times you came to my... You know how mad you got to be for your camera to fog up? The fog up with your own breath.
Starting point is 02:37:28 That's the crazy part about it. Show. Now all of a sudden, you're talking shit. Somebody said, pay my nigga that he can hit a dentist, yo. You think that's halitosis? It's not no halitosis. I got to stop playing with that, nigga, man. You know what's so funny?
Starting point is 02:37:42 Yo, Vlad is also a slick nigga. The whole time I'm watching this shit and no disrespect to... Ares, but I'm watching, I'm like, did he need the makeup or nah? And I started to realize, I'm like, oh, I didn't even. Oh shit, he got the Charlemagne raccoon eyes. Remember when Charlamagne had the raccoon shit going on?
Starting point is 02:38:01 Before he, like, bleached his skin? Not bleach, I mean, um, um, uh, is it bleach? Whatever he did to his skin. Charlemaine raccoon eyes. Yeah, it was like this, like right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but now, now Charlemagne is clean skin, even skin tone. You feel me?
Starting point is 02:38:31 No, he did the chemical bleach, chemical skin peel. Chemical skin peel. That's he did. Who you befriended. So I'm watching, I'm like, yeah, I can see where the makeup came in type shit. Both times you came to my show. Now all of a sudden, you talk shit about him? Make that make sense.
Starting point is 02:38:50 And let's get another thing straight. Nine times out of 10? I'm not even being slick. No, it's skin peeling whatever shit. Yo, I'm Jamaican. We call everything skin bleaching, bro. Like, yo, cartel bleach. Hall of Caroline bleach.
Starting point is 02:39:05 Yo, in Jamaica, bleaching is a thing. I'm not diso show me. That's my nickname. That's my nickname. But, you know, a little bleaching. It's a little bleaching, you know. When you want to boost your numbers, who do you always go to?
Starting point is 02:39:16 The black community. So whether you are using us to help your platform, and I'll be real. We help each other. And I've said that. I've never disrespected you. I've never talked crazy about you. I just simply said,
Starting point is 02:39:29 Gnack, you know, Gnack could tap a thing who you definitely be bleaching. Y'all got to check on Gnack. Gnach might be bleaching. Uh, who is Mo?
Starting point is 02:39:36 Yeah, yeah, we're streaming today, we're streaming today, you know? I want my worth. But you use the black community when you need us
Starting point is 02:39:42 and you play the black card when you win some black dussie. And when I say dussie, I don't mean the word dussie. I mean the word that starts with P that rhymes with dussie. Your area spirits. I think you were dropping like a smooth like eight points before.
Starting point is 02:39:56 Like you were doing Bronny James numbers. But right here like you started doing like some Angel Reese like throw the ball over the rim shit. I don't know. Bro, you can say pussy. Like this is not Nickelodeon. You can say pussy, bro. Because that's who you are, gadget. And when I say gadget, I'm not talking about the word gadget.
Starting point is 02:40:14 I'm talking about a word that starts with F that rhymes with gadget. What word starts with F that rhymes with gadget? Fagid? What was he told him? You understand what I'm saying? You gadget, dussy, and I'll do you one better. I'll come on your show one more time for free. You ain't got to pay me shit.
Starting point is 02:40:43 And we could talk about it right there in there so we could get the truth. Because there's three sides to the truth. Your story, my story. Yo, Vlad got these boys in a blender. The nigger was getting paid $4,000. Check this out. The nigger was getting paid $4,000 an interview. He asked Vlad for a raise.
Starting point is 02:41:03 by the end of the day, he told Vlad he'll do it for free. Yo, Vlad got these niggins in a blender. Yo, how does that work? Yo, he asked for a raise. He's getting paid. He asks for a raise. Vlad clowns him about the raise, and he says, fuck it, I'll do it for free.
Starting point is 02:41:18 What? Yo, how does he keep getting away with this shit? Yo, chat! How does he keep getting... Yo, chat? It's like, you go into the HR. I'm like, yo, I want a raise. And they start clowning you for the raise.
Starting point is 02:41:32 You'd be like, you know what, I'll just work for free. I just work for free. What? How does this work, chat? I say Dussie. I don't mean the word Dussie. I mean the word that starts with P that rhymes with Dussie.
Starting point is 02:41:43 Because that's who you are, Gadget. And when I say gadget, I'm not talking about the word gadget. I'm talking about a word that starts with F that rhymes with gadget. Oh, he meant Fassett. Okay, I get you. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:41:56 You gadget Dussie? And I'll do you one better. This is crazy. I'm on your show one more time. for free. Yo, this is the words negotiation ever. Imagine, like, me and Spotify working out a deal, and we get to a point. I'm like, nah, fuck that.
Starting point is 02:42:14 You know what? I'll come bring my podcast there for free. Just to show y'all. Like, wait, wait, what? Nick, listen. If this was just about, like, some other shit cool, bro, y'all started beefing over a raise. You can't get the nigga to shit for free.
Starting point is 02:42:30 What the fuck? The whole point of y'all arguing is the raise. how are you offering this shit for free I see why Vlad playing with y'all Harry Spears I like you don't get mad at me I'm just like analyzing this shit okay I do like Air Spears
Starting point is 02:42:47 I got a problem with him but still like this was crazy you ain't gotta pay me shit what yo Vlad Vlad listen to this shit right now like nigga why you ain't say this from the get go fool I wasn't trying to pay your bitch ass
Starting point is 02:43:00 anyway yo how you go from texting the nigga yo I need a raise You don't got to pay me shit. One better. I'll come on your show one more time for free. You ain't got to pay me shit.
Starting point is 02:43:16 And we could talk about it right then and there. So we could get the truth. Because there's three sides to the truth. Your story, my story, and the truth. So don't be a coward. Bring me back. And let's go through it. And I'll take a page out of cannabis's book,
Starting point is 02:43:30 second round knockout against L.L. We could get it live in front of the cameras on your own sitcom. I'll let you kick a verse. Wait, is he battle rapping? Fuck it, I'll let you kick them all. I'll leave the way for the studio audience to applaud. Now watch me rip the tap from your arm. Stick you for your Vanguard Award in front of your mother,
Starting point is 02:43:47 mother first, second and third born. Had me get on the horn called Minister Farrakhan so he could persuade me to squash it. I say, now fuck that. He started it. He forgot where the hardcore artist is. You want to talk shit? All this over 4,000 eyes, man. About me?
Starting point is 02:44:07 The one of the best shit talkers in the game, bring your ass, nigga. Bring your ass. Have me on. Don't be a... Hey. You, Ares, I do think that if you and Vlad sat down, you, you'd probably have the best of him. I'll say this, though. Here's the problem.
Starting point is 02:44:24 Yo, it always looks bad when the comedian seems mad. You know what you're supposed to do? You're supposed to clown the fucking shit out of it, of Vlad. You're supposed to, like, in a, this is where comedians are good. Like, you'll watch a Dave Chappelle comedy set up, and he's basically, like, he has certain thoughts that are legit. legit or he might have certain gripes about the community or what's going on in society but he just puts it in jokes that you you almost have the same thoughts by pointing out how ridiculous certain shit is this came across as an angry guy over $4,000 and you know as a comedian I would have hoped he would
Starting point is 02:45:04 have took the other approach but maybe he's waiting until he sits down with Vlad here's the thing if I'm Vlad I'm not sitting down a comedian I just want to point that out you don't sit down with a comedian You don't give a comedian Like Vlad has defeated you online If I'm glad I'm not giving you the chance To get your to get your lick back You know what I mean? You know if I get into a bar fight
Starting point is 02:45:27 And I fucking hit a fucking MMA fight over the head With a hanny bottle He'd get fucking knocked out I stomp him out I spit on him on some All Star JR shit And then now he's like Yo matter of fact Let's link up and fight mono mono in the octagon.
Starting point is 02:45:44 Fuck would I do that for. What the hell? They already got my win. I'm good. What the hell would I want to sit across from a fucking comedian to then try to, no, I'm not doing it. If I'm glad I'm saying,
Starting point is 02:45:55 respectfully, I'm good. I'm good. Somebody said, yo, the crash out in 240 KP, 240p, me.
Starting point is 02:46:09 You're a coward, do you see? Don't be a coward, gadget. Let's get it on. Because you Russian, I'll do like Drago If he dies, he dies Oh shit
Starting point is 02:46:21 Gonna keep quiet about this But Aries decided to drop a video About it, so I'm gonna go ahead And tell the whole story Why do you Yo Vlad got a hundred fifty thousand I watch on man Vlad is flexing on niggas now man I'm telling you how these are the facts bro
Starting point is 02:46:38 All right Nagat Am I saying a name wrong Nagasaki Or Nagasaki Nagasaki Right. That's what it is, right? Come on, Vladigan. Come on. Spit it out. Pause. Why is it buffering?
Starting point is 02:47:04 It's not because maybe he's not a great actor or maybe he hasn't done. Oh, he started violating that, nigga, quick. And I just thought he was a talent to do. So we started doing interviews. And the beginning, it was a little bit slow. And over time, it started to work out. The views went up. People got to know us. And the audience started to increase. Now, the thing about Aries, though, is that Aries would always have issues with things that are going on. So at one point... Business-wise or just culturally?
Starting point is 02:47:37 Business-wise. Okay. Business-wise. So a few years ago, Ares called me, and he was like, yo, man, I can't get any acting gigs because of these clips of me talking about people. Now, it's my fault he can't get acting gigs. It's not because maybe he's not a great actor. Oh, shit. Or maybe he hasn't done a major movie in 30 years.
Starting point is 02:47:59 Oh, shit. It's my fault that he's not getting acting gigs. I'm not removing anything. He wanted all the clips removed. I said, I'm not going to remove anything. What year was this? Oh, man, maybe about four years. Hey, chat, I hate to follow trends, but because somebody get me the additions for my soundboard, you know, the,
Starting point is 02:48:17 Fah! Get me that and then the bomb. Like, I need that real quick. That when I'm instigating, I could really just instigate right. You know what I? Chat, no better instigator than me. I'm the top-tier instigator. Like, I'm proud.
Starting point is 02:48:31 I'm the nigga who, like, niggas was just going to argue by the time they stab at each other. I'm like, yeah, shit. Niggas got to get to it, man. I'm like, yo, you going to let him talk to you like that? Yo, niggas is wild. I don't even know niggas disrespect people like that.
Starting point is 02:48:43 Yeah, top 10 instigator. Chat, name a better instigator than me. If there's a better one, I'm going to put some working. I don't think they don't better instigate like me? I'm going on. I've seen him do it Yo, please, I need to Fah!
Starting point is 02:49:00 Because I want to edit this and just like drop mad bombs So he's not like he's a great actor Bang! It's not like he's that funny. Bang! I want to spice it up, Chad. Now, it's my fault he can't get acting gigs.
Starting point is 02:49:13 It's not because maybe he's not a great actor Or maybe he hasn't done a major movie in 30 years. Bang! McGuire, it's my fault that he's not getting acting gigs. So I said, I'm not removing anything. He wanted all the clips removed. I said, I'm not going to remove anything. Where was this?
Starting point is 02:49:29 Oh, man, maybe about four years ago or so, something like that. And, you know, at one point, you know, he stopped talking to me, stopped working. Then at one point he came back and we started doing more work together. My staff would always complain that Ares was disrespectful to them. Really? He would show up. At one point, he forgot his towel. Right?
Starting point is 02:49:49 You see his towel on his leg sometimes because, you know, he sweats a lot because he's kind of overweight. Bang! Yo, I need to, yo, that's where I got to get the fucking, like, yeah, he sweats a lot
Starting point is 02:50:01 because he fat. And he forgot his towel. And he's like, yo, I need a towel. And Leo, my video manager is like, well,
Starting point is 02:50:09 here's a paper towel. Like, no, I need a cloth towel. So he made Leo go and run to the store or bring him back a cloth towel. Somebody said,
Starting point is 02:50:17 fat niggas always got sweat, sweat rags. Yo, yo, this ain't a thing that's going on all fat niggas. We're going on one fat nigga right now.
Starting point is 02:50:26 Okay? As a fat nigga representative, y'all not gonna go in on all fat niggas. We won't focus the fat hate on one fat dude, okay? At one point, Ares was complaining because he needed a makeup artist. I mean, literally the only person I've ever interviewed that needs a makeup artist every interview.
Starting point is 02:50:43 I mean? Every interview, but I'm like, that's cool. Wait, he needs a makeup artist every interview. Every interview. Oh. Every interview. So there's a makeup artist. Yeah, I was thinking like, you know,
Starting point is 02:50:51 sometimes somebody might have something fucked up with their face. So like, say someone I got punched or something. I don't know. But if he needs it every interview, I'm like. Artist, shout out to my girl, Candice, who comes early to do his makeup. And then he does the show. And I'm like, that's fine. I'll cover the cost.
Starting point is 02:51:07 It is what it is. So. You're looking ugly with the makeup? That is a lot. The show continues. We're doing our thing. And, you know, I like the back and forth that me and him have. And the thing about Ares is that he lives 10 minutes away from my L.A.
Starting point is 02:51:23 studio and unlike some of like my more successful comedians like a another disc my more successful comedians tk k k kirkland or a deal hugley he's not on tour as much he's available more often so a lot of times when i shoot he's available i'll hit him up a couple days before you know a free tuesday yeah we do it so it's like the convenient chick at full clock always answers yeah he's convenient pussy at full clock man you try to hit all the other bad bishes they all getting fuck themselves or they out with somebody else. That one chick every time you hit her phone, all right, I'm getting, I'm getting ready.
Starting point is 02:51:58 Yeah, yeah, the convenient pussy. Last resort. It's convenient for me, it's convenient for him, it all works out, he's 10 minutes away, he shows up, he gets his makeup done, you know, he gets to go out that night wearing makeup, everyone wins. Somebody said, oh, reliable, you're right.
Starting point is 02:52:14 That old reliable, man, all reliable, like, yo, you've been going through your contacts in the night, Like you try to like link and the chick you really want to link with she like either like oh no I got to do this I got to do this and you realize she's bullshit and then you go into your second option and like usually when you're down like past option four that's where all reliable you know when you hit her with the you up and she's like yeah what's you doing you know she's about to come and suck you into next week like she's going to slop you up brother you know what I mean like she's going to do it but she's not the first option she's the last option All right, so let me ask two questions while I interject here. Yeah. Plettis, when you hit the last option up, you ever hit the last option up and you'd be like, my way is like you hit her with the, you sleeping, she ain't never sleep.
Starting point is 02:53:02 That makes me dead sleeping, bro. It's like her phone woke her up. And when she see your message, where you be like, you sleep? Nah. Nah. She'd tell you all typelize. I can't sleep. Facts.
Starting point is 02:53:17 The bad bitch. Oh, I'm already in bed. I already did my skin care for the night. Last resort, never sleep. Yo, you sleeping? Nope. Facts. That's facts.
Starting point is 02:53:32 Number one, and this applies to Boone, Aerie Spears, as you talk about these fallouts. We've never heard about these fallouts. We just see you guys on camera. Are you guys friends? She had to ask that. Are you friends? Because I seen, when he was dropping the things of saying,
Starting point is 02:53:48 yo he's not talented as a comedian or not you know he didn't say not talented but he's like you know like he's kind of like throwing a couple digs at him in my world is like when you having a public disagreement with a friend you don't you don't disrespect their entire being you don't disrespect their like if me and a friend was having a disagreement online and maybe you know we're talking shit to each other but like we were friends at a point or so friends if they were like, yo, man, I never thought that bitch-ass-nigga academics was talented. I never thought he was, I'd be like, damn, really? So I always think there's levels or lines you could cross,
Starting point is 02:54:30 but when I heard Vlad kind of talk about it's like comedy stuff, I'm like, damn, let me just establish it. Were y'all friends or not? Because if you weren't friends, I could see you saying that. If y'all were friends, I'm pretty sure you may have been around his comedy shows. Like, were you telling him that then? Or was he knowing that you didn't think he was shit? No, it's really more of a business situation.
Starting point is 02:54:50 Okay. And Vlad says business. In Aries, we're friendly with each other, but we never really get on the phone and we talk. Like, for example, like a Michael G. White, that's my friend. We talk a lot. Willie D. That's my friend. We talk a lot. T.K. Kirkland, that's my man. We talk all the time. I go with him, you know, to people like this and we talk about our problems and issues and so forth. And, you know, these are people I respect. But me and Aries are really just business. We show up and that's that. Now, over time, his appearance fees
Starting point is 02:55:18 were going up, right? Because the views were going up. And maybe about a year and a half ago... I agree, Gnack. I don't think Vlad liked this thing from the get-go. His videos, his clips... Yo, you know that one chick you fuck chat?
Starting point is 02:55:36 And like... Like, one chick you fuck, like, it's not that she stink, but, like, she wear, like, a cologne that you don't really like. You know what I mean? Like, and low-key, like, It's just not pleasurable to be around the bitch, bro. Like, honestly, like, whatever reason. And, or that one perfume show, you don't like.
Starting point is 02:55:53 So, but you keep doing it. But the first time you could jump off that train, nigga, fuck that bitch, man. That's what Vlad doing with, with me. Vlad ain't like this thing from the get-go. That's what kind of comes across to me. He ain't like this thing from the get-go, bro. Sorry to go super viral on TikTok.
Starting point is 02:56:07 There was these videos that me and him did together that they put these Boeing sounds behind and, like, literally, I think, hundreds of millions of views. happening on TikTok. Yeah, it became a great little template right there. I think one of the ones is like, where you said some extremely gay stuff. Yeah, right. The whole gay thing
Starting point is 02:56:24 became viral. He had a good reaction. Yeah, yeah. I've always been straight. But watching gay porn doesn't make you want to do gay shit. Right. But I've never watched gay porn. I've scrolled past gay them. That whole thing. And look, I like to put myself out there like that
Starting point is 02:56:41 and let them... Nah, Vlad used a different clip. The clip that really circulating is Vlad'd be like, not a little lobby on the porn site sometimes and like some gay shit come up and you know what I mean like I see the gay shit but it don't make me want to do gay shit and he's like what you mean you've seen that like you watching the gay shit like that's the full that's the full thing yeah you ever seen it you ever see it yeah Vlad user you know that's the thing about owning the platform you use whatever clip you want airy spears it's yeah it's a clip I know you know I'm told ma'am
Starting point is 02:57:23 is there white women where probably got to go to YouTube Vlad Ari Spears gay it was talking about gay porn Vlad Airy Spears
Starting point is 02:57:38 gay porn oh okay here they put it in green street now yeah because this is a template for everybody I think watching gay porn if you're straight
Starting point is 02:57:56 doesn't make you yeah he said watching gay porn if you straight don't make you gay niggas like what I think watching gay porn if you're straight doesn't make you want to do gay shit Say that again
Starting point is 02:58:08 If you Yeah This is a good one This is a good Say that again Say that again Nigga What?
Starting point is 02:58:17 Watch a gay porn And you're straight Look at his face No, no This is an epic reaction I can't count with you That was good I think watching gay porn
Starting point is 02:58:25 If you're straight Doesn't make you want to do gay shit Say that again If you watch a gay porn and you're straight, it doesn't make you want to do gay stuff. This thing is a homosexual. That was good. That was good.
Starting point is 02:58:41 He said this thing is a homosexual. That was good. That was good, Jack. Nah, that was good. This is probably a clip that you think he deserved a race for, though, but it's just funny as hell. Now, Vlad was wilded. If you're so about, yo, if you're straight and you watch a little gay porn, it don't make you gay. Right?
Starting point is 02:58:59 Doesn't make you want to do gay shit. Say that again? If you watch a gay porn and you're straight, it doesn't make you want to do gay stuff. This thing is a homosexual. You said I'm gay. Yes.
Starting point is 02:59:11 I've never watched gay porn. Rewind that and say what you just said one more time. Watching gay porn doesn't make you want to do gay stuff. Watching gay porn. But why are you watching it? I'm not watching it. You just said watching it. No, scroll and watching two different things.
Starting point is 02:59:26 You still seeing it. You still seeing it. You still seeing it. the images, right? You see a gay image. I'm going to abandon this conversation because I'm going to get hypnotized into this bullshit. I will stay to it. I will stay to it. I am straight. I've always been
Starting point is 02:59:38 straight. But watching gay porn doesn't make you want to do gay shit. Right. But I've never watched gay porn. I've scrolled past gay thumbnails. Words are specific. All right. Now is definitely an epic clip bottom. You know, kind of talk shit and everything because it creates
Starting point is 02:59:54 good content. Like, I don't really have an ego when it comes to this thing. And even all the issues he had. I'm like, oh, fuck it, whatever. We can get over that. He needs a makeup artist. I'll get a makeup artist. He has a, forgets his towel. Fine. We get him a towel. Whatever, right? So, at that point, the views are going up. Now, keep in mind, I don't benefit from this. These are not my TikTok channels. These are other people's accounts. Still promotion. It's still promotion, but he's getting promoted more than me because here's the thing, right? And I swear to God on this. I swear, I swear that this is the absolute truth. Out of
Starting point is 03:00:27 everyone that I've ever had on my show, like in terms of regular guests, I have seen Ares benefit the most because he went in the beginning from doing small comedy clubs to when our stuff started going viral and it started getting, you know, big on TikTok and so forth, things just absolutely took off for him. He got his, you know, and he talked about us on camera, the biggest show he's ever been paid for, Saudi Arabia. Was this the most money you ever made off a single show? Yes. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:00 Was it more than twice you've ever made for a single show? We're going to stop it the first question. He did his biggest venue ever. He was doing clubs of maybe like whatever 100, 200 people. He did a show in Connecticut with 3,000 people. He did a show in L.A. at the Novo Theater that I went to to support. That was like 1,400 people. He's doing the best he's ever done.
Starting point is 03:01:25 And I was super, super happy for him. Okay, and I think this is where there is probably, I noticed it in his clip, he said, he says, Vlad has an ego. He's such a narcissist, dude, at the end. And I was also listening to Busy, as Boosie was speaking as well about you. Do you feel like maybe they are also looking at it in the reverse way to say they're pretty thankful for the platform, but you're taking too much credit for their success, right? But Boosey has 20 years in music, you have Aries. I'm not too sure about his comedy career, but I'm pretty sure he's like 40 years, 40 years of comedy or something. Exactly. But since he was like a teenage or something, yeah, like 30 something.
Starting point is 03:02:05 But then again, he might just be saying, hey, listen, when I'm having some success there, maybe some of it is tied to Vlad TV, but maybe you're overestimated way too much. Well, listen, I don't care if it's tied to me or not because I don't benefit from that. That's his thing. But Ares would always, I have text messages from him. Yo, bro, he did his first Europe tour recently. He's like, yo, I'm in Europe and people are running up to me, bombing me. quoting me from our interviews. Yo, Vlad, you're big overseas. Yo, like people are constantly quoting us. Yo, like, he's telling me this. And I feel truly happy for him.
Starting point is 03:02:38 And I'm like, yo, I'm glad that something I've done contributes to his success. And he's getting paid along the way. So I feel like, yo, everyone's winning. So, like, I think like a month and a half ago, he asked to raise his appearance fee again. I looked at the numbers and I'm like, cool, let's do it. Let's do it.
Starting point is 03:02:55 The numbers are slowly getting better. And I'm like, yo, let's do it. Makes perfect sense. And he would say things like, yo, to all y'all haters out there who, you know, talking shit about me doing this show, I get five digits every time I do an interview here. I get five digits.
Starting point is 03:03:11 Why y'all sit at home and do nothing. I get five digits. It ain't like I'm on there for free. He pays me. Correct. He pays me a nice five figures. Yeah. So if my choice is either stay home on a Tuesday
Starting point is 03:03:24 and do nothing and earn nothing or go sit down for an hour and a half and walk away with five figures where I could not make anything what am I do? No, I agree. I'm going to make the money and I get to check them.
Starting point is 03:03:38 And I let him run with this story but that was a lie. Oh, man. He was not getting five digits. You know, it's typical hip hop. You know, you got to say you got a color TV with everyone got black and white. Exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 03:03:48 He was making $4,000 an episode. Okay. Right, $4,000. Still pretty good. I do want to put it out there. Still pretty good. And here's the interesting part as we get into the Boosy part.
Starting point is 03:03:57 He's doing it pretty much every month. Okay. Right? So you're talking about Boosy, you know. Probably every other month. Every six months at this point. He's doing shit every month. Okay.
Starting point is 03:04:07 All right. I think we're good with this. We're good with this, y'all. All right. People, maybe I should say this for a later stream, but I guess there's no time better than the present. Jay-Z. Jigga has done an interview.
Starting point is 03:04:22 New York Times interview as came out, apparently they have, let me look at this. So Billboard ran an article. It says, so Taylor Swift, Jayze, and Bad Bunny, and Moore named to the 30 Greatest Living American Songwriters list. Okay.
Starting point is 03:04:40 I'm going to speak about this a little bit more later. But I've been told about this list. And while they have Taylor Swift on this list, I hear they have omitted one person in particular. We will get there, though. Let's see if we could. Okay, so this looks like it's, is this paid or something? Oh, can I watch it?
Starting point is 03:05:14 Or do I got to pay for it? Ooh, nice. Okay, so we got to do it. I'm the king of hip-hop renewed. Okay, so we're going to listen to this Jay-Z interview, but 30 songwriter list. Let's see if we could. So the 30 greatest living songwriters, I got to see this fucking list.
Starting point is 03:05:35 Let's see if I can see this list. I need to see the list that they gave, bro. Okay. Okay, here's the list. This is from Bob Dylan to Taylor Swift. We break down the controversial New York Times list of 30 greatest living song writers from America, who made the cut in why it matters. This is their list.
Starting point is 03:05:58 Let's go over it. Bob Dylan, 600 original composition. Paul Simon, 16 Grammy Awards, Bruce Springsteen, 20 platinum records, TV Wonder, 25 Grammy Awards, Joni Michelle, 10 studio masterpieces, Taylor Swift is actually number six, 14 number one albums, Dali Parton, 3,000 songs written, Lionel Richie, 100 million records sold, Lana Del Rey, 10 billion streams, Kendrick Lamar, he makes the top 10, 17 Grammy Awards, yes, 17, oh wow, congrats. I was trying to see the other 30 Here's some key things about how they're doing the ranking
Starting point is 03:06:40 The Times Project intentionally excluded several major figures Sparking widespread controversy in musical circles Notable admissions include Billy Joel, Garth Brooks, Randy Newman The selection committee argued that while these artists are commercially dominant They lacked the evolutionary influence of the finalists The methodology of the methodology focused on three key vectors, lyrical innovation, influence on subsequent generations, and the ability of the songs to exist independent of the performer.
Starting point is 03:07:13 The initial pool had about 700 names submitted by industry voters. The final committee were six senior New York Times music critics, and the geographic limics was, they had to be born in the U.S. or naturalized citizens. By the way, I think this disagrees for why. Okay, it makes sense now. So Drake is now on the list because he's not a U.S. citizen or, from what we know, at least now, a naturalized citizen. So, yeah, because I've seen people, this list came out and people were instantly saying, where is Drake? But Drake is a Canadian-born resident and also, from what we know, not a naturalized citizen of the United States.
Starting point is 03:07:55 time frame must be currently living or an active or recently active okay I wonder who's in the other 20 anyway I want to figure out where does Jay Z where does Jay Z fit on this list clearly Jay is on the list
Starting point is 03:08:21 here is the cover so Jay is on the list anybody else from hip-hop we notice young Doug is on the list Oh, wow. So we got Thug on the list. Kendrick on the list. Jay on the list.
Starting point is 03:08:35 Missy Elliott's on the list. Hmm. Hmm. I wish I could find the full list. I want to see the whole list. Maybe they have it on Twitter. I just want to read it over just to 30 songwriters. Now, it's interesting they said songwriters, right?
Starting point is 03:09:01 It's interesting they say songwriters when some of these guys, aren't really songwriters no disrespect let's go over the list jzy oh it's unranked oh never it's unranked oh okay i didn't know it was unranked jz z young thug kensig lamar outcast missy elli msie elli msie elli mary carry the dream oh the dream okay yeah bad bunny baby face oh baby face yep um stevie wonder now roger jim jim and terry lewis smoky robinson lino richie taylor Swift, Lon Del Rey, Dolly Parton, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Paul Simon, Carol King, Willie Nelson, Diane Warren, Fiona Apple, Lucinda, Williams, Romeo Santos.
Starting point is 03:09:49 Wait, Romeo Santos is born in the United States? I guess Puerto Rico, maybe. That's what they're saying that? Which means it would be a USS. Brian and Eddie Holland and Stefan Merritt and Josh Osborne. Okay, so the reason why Bad Bunny's on it, because Bad Bunny was born in Puerto Rico, right? Bad Bunny, place of birth.
Starting point is 03:10:11 Okay, so Puerto Rican artists, yeah. So he was born in Bayamont, Puerto Rico, but he's eligible because he is a United States citizen, as I imagine Romeo Santos place of birth. He was, oh, he was born in the Bronx? I didn't know how Romeo Santos is born in the Bronx. Okay, good to know, though. All right, cool.
Starting point is 03:10:30 All right. So that's their list. Remember the categories. Remember who didn't make it because of what reasons? Drake doesn't make it because he's not born in the U.S. Shit, I would think Bob Marley would be in here. I'm actually surprised that, well, surprise but not surprise. For whatever reason, I would think that Lauren Hill would have probably made this.
Starting point is 03:10:51 However, Lauren Hill has a very limited catalog. I could see why she does make it. Okay, subsequently, the New York Times did put that out, but they put out a Jay-Z interview as well. Let's see if we could get into this. Like the Reebok, the key and a lock with words, so provocative. As long as I live, I be done. When I caught that pocket, I was like, oh, I got this. Years, I had a big green notebook.
Starting point is 03:11:16 My mom had got me this notebook, and I was just writing it would be sideways and slant it and just like a mess. And I was write really small because I didn't want anybody to read what I was writing. In my teenage years, I moved further away from the house. And as I moved further away from the house, it was hard to, like, hold these things. I had to retain these thoughts. So I didn't write anymore in that little green note. But I wish I've had it, man. I'm really, really, I never kept up with things.
Starting point is 03:11:44 That's a whole different experience. I tell you about it. That was the first time I made a demo. Jazz and Big Daddy Kane in Brooklyn were the two guys at that moment. And the connector was Fresh Gordon. You know what Fresh Gordon is? I know because I've read about it. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 03:11:58 Fresh Gordon was a super connect. Everyone used to be in his house. Fresh Gordon actually really, I believe, did the push-a-beat and sold it for like $5,000. That's the folklore. I agree. I think R. Kelly should be on that list, too. I don't know if it's true.
Starting point is 03:12:14 But you go to Fresh Going house and Mark E. B, there, Pepper. And then he had like all the computer equipment. His house was beautiful, incredible, incredible. So anyway, in that house, the two guys were going to meet up. They was going to make a what we call a mixtape now. And everyone was talking about, you know, oh, yeah, who's that kid? And so Kane was like, I want to work with you. And I made a demo with Kane.
Starting point is 03:12:40 And it was the first time I was like, oh, oh, I could make songs. And now I was then I played for my uncle. He's like, man, get that shit out of here. I was like, I'm going to be better than L, L, L, Kooj. He's like, get the fuck out of here. But my uncle loved me. He just, he was protecting me in that moment the way he could because I was dreaming too big for him.
Starting point is 03:13:00 He was like, let me, let me let you down. It don't happen like that. So 96, all the material that's on Reasonable Doubt was pretty much already like in my head. The thing about that album is the freedom in it and how naive I was. I didn't know anything about the music business. I wasn't trying to make the greatest song or, you know, Streis was watching. The third verse is like 68 bars. It's not like 16 structured bars that I know was like be palatable for the, what I was thinking during Reasonable Doubt was, when my
Starting point is 03:13:33 guys hear this, it's going to be like, their mind's going to be blown because we just left Vegas. And this tells the story of our whole trip. They're going to go crazy. This story that we just completed and now we're back home, their hand on wax. That was it. I was trying to make music for guys who were in the street and living just like us to have like a soundtrack to, you know, the emotions that we were dealing, not just like the highs, not the Lexis, and that was part of it. Yes, like, that's the eye candy, the Lexus, what the TV sets and then, but the interior feelings and emotions was really what I was trying to accomplish as a writer. Like, how do I go even deeper to, like, I'm going to tell you what you were thinking
Starting point is 03:14:18 when you were doing that? Because it was, it was exactly what I was thinking. I know exactly how you felt in that moment when you felt that paranoia or that exhilaration, whatever it was. Sometimes I'll come up with the flow first. You may have heard people like he does his rain man in studio because I'm like like, I'm trying to work out the pockets and then I'll fill it with words.
Starting point is 03:14:42 What Biggie had was a jazz pocket that we didn't really know we was listening to until late on. One of his neighbors was this jazz musician who would take him to like shows and things like that. We knew Raqin was, you know, come from a jazz background. Right, so we understood the, I got a till of me, lyric genamel. So he's mimicking the horn. But Biggie was so... That's interesting. You know, obviously Jay's he couldn't, couldn't, you know, hold the jockstrap of,
Starting point is 03:15:18 like, a Kanye West when it comes to, like, real music conversations. But I will say that Jay does have a really good understanding of just music and just sonics. I will say that, right? Like, he's not yay. He's not Swiss beats. He's not Pharrell. But, like, he's more than a rapper. I'll give him that. Unorthodox, that's just jazz, you know, improv what he was doing. I don't come from a, like, a musical family, like, you know, no instruments, but it was just so much music in the house that it just was innate in me to think musically as well as I thought lyrically. Even the first album, when I didn't know what I was doing, I listened to some of those, so's pockets, and they all like my Yeah, collaboration is important to me because, again, it's almost like another ingredient.
Starting point is 03:16:07 And let's see how we can create a song that is authentic to all of us. The artist wants the other person to have a great performance because you want a great record. You don't want to have a performance where your verse is just obliterating someone and then no one wants to hear that verse. That's not good for the song itself. I'm a fan of songwriting. So I want to know that the out. I'm curious to see how, you know, how this is going to turn out, you know, what is Pimp C going to say on this beat?
Starting point is 03:16:40 You know, he didn't like that beat in the beginning. It was just like, hey, jig, man, man, that's thing too fruity, man. He thought he was making, like, the biggest commercial, like, sellout record, and he took some convincing. He still did the song. We actually was really cool once we met each other. I think he had eight bars. I'm not sure. Maybe 12.
Starting point is 03:17:01 I think he had 12 bars. 12 bar verse that was like one of the most memorable verses on a song. Because we mean bun, it's like, it's the big, thudder, rap, pitt, but don't, you know, we just did a triple it flow to it. But he did the opposite. He wouldn't even, he cut it in like, I think, cordon or whatever, he cut it. Like, what is he doing? And then by the like fourth bar, it was like, oh my God. just beautiful
Starting point is 03:17:33 like on Brooklyn's finest I didn't get to hear that till maybe a month later so I did all those little parts I'm saying what's your name who shot you and Biggie filled those in and when he was like in Faith have twins she finally had two pox
Starting point is 03:17:46 I was just like oh my God such a good line and it was just so good and it was just so this is the side of Jay you can't hate and this is what I said like remember I said this whole PR thing
Starting point is 03:17:59 Jay's going to do where everybody including the likes of me, and I don't know if, you know, I keep saying this, but I don't have anything like that against Jay. Like, we all love Jay's music. But when Jay just gets back into just talking about just the greatness of where the error he came from and his contribution in those old stories, you can't, there's nothing bad to say about him, right?
Starting point is 03:18:22 It's the only, it only gets into that when he uses this and starts doing business, right? Because in business, he basically, like, puts a veil over your eyes. But when he's talking music, it's like, oh, this is good. This is real good. I like this. He was one of those ones who ain't run from, like, controversy, whether it made him look bad or not. Like, you know, most people, ego wouldn't allow them to say that. And it was like one of the endearing qualities that he had as a writer, you know, black and ugly as ever.
Starting point is 03:18:52 And then the word, one word was so powerful. However, black and ugly as ever. However, anything he said after that was going to be amazing. Those are little tricks as a writer that everyone's trying to accomplish. I can't say everyone. That's what I'm trying to accomplish when I'm writing is like just a word that just changes the framing of the thought in a powerful way in the shortest amount of time. Because that's hard to do. Like if you got unlimited, you know, God did versus I'm going to hit on something because I'm writing through so much.
Starting point is 03:19:31 many pockets, I'm going to hit on a bunch of things. But if I got eight bars, you know, if you think about, like, fronting, like, that was a very condensed, hard-versed right. You got eight bars to convey your thoughts and get out of there. You know, those is when you got to sit down and really just, like, you know, make sure every measure counts. It's a challenge for the pen, like when you create it for a, like when you create it for or someone else, especially people that you respect.
Starting point is 03:20:04 You know, Dr. Drag Group, obviously, a fan of him and Snoop. You know, this is Dr. Dre coming off, you know, leaving Def Row. I know what he was trying to go, because I've been there a couple of times with, like, Kingdom Come and those things. So he's trying to make, you know, he's like, I'm leaving this place and I want to mature. So for me, it was just natural to, like, get into his psyche. Like, what would he be thinking right there? What would I be thinking?
Starting point is 03:20:29 I would be thinking, I have to remind people that I'm doctors. You're a challenge for you as a creator. I'm not still day, still Dre. Yep, Jay-Z wrote it. Oh, shit. He penned the entire song. Wow, he even wrote Snoop Dog's verses. Fuck, okay, in 30 minutes.
Starting point is 03:20:59 Holy shit. For me, I swear I really thrive, like when I'm challenged to, like, do a thing, to make a word mean more. He's just triple hunter. quadruple entendre, that's when I feel like I'm at my best. You know, you can pin yourself in the corner and say, I'm gonna write a song about, you know, alcohol. And I'm just like, fine,
Starting point is 03:21:20 a lyrical exercise is a better example. So now I'm just gonna take all these references, you know, about bars and sit-ups and chin-ups and things, and I'm gonna make it make sense, and it can be corny. It's almost like a cooking show. These are the ingredients I got to work with. I'm making this type of meal, and I have these. And I have these sort of things.
Starting point is 03:21:41 And that's it. You take one of your arms and you tie it behind your back. That's a challenge. But it's a challenge as a writer that you relish and you want. 4-4-4 was the toughest thing I had to write. Interesting. And not lyrically, not the greatest metaphors I've ever created. But like the vulnerability and the honesty and transparency, that's hard.
Starting point is 03:22:07 That's a difficult. But to do it for the entire album and to sit in that and talk about real subjects and real talk about, you know, how your kids are going to feel. And, you know, at some point, you're going to have to sit down and speak to them. All these different topics. That was the most difficult album that I had to be difficult. The thing is in Paris. 4-444 was a good album, though. I'm not going to lie, mature J has given good albums.
Starting point is 03:22:32 4-4-4 amazing album. American Gangsa Amazing Album. pretty much everything from black album except Kingdom Come No no Blueprint 3 we could Nah
Starting point is 03:22:46 There's some records on Bluven 3 No no it's Magna Carter Holy Grail That's the one I don't like that one I don't like that one He was going to European J He was going to European J
Starting point is 03:22:57 I didn't like that one I think that As a writer Those are like some of my best moments For me Most rewarding I wouldn't say best My most rewarding
Starting point is 03:23:06 moments is to make something that people just dancing to having a good time. But the theme of it is just like, wow. Now, Magna Carter Holy Grail, the reason why I like it, I felt like he was trying to bring hip-hop too much uptown. And also, wasn't that during his little fashion era, or not the art era?
Starting point is 03:23:23 And it was like, he's trying to mix bebop, you know, graffiti, boombox culture with drug dealing, trapping, and fucking art appreciation. And I was just like, ah, this doesn't kind of kind of really flow. I think you are personally getting into that, but you can't bring hip hop
Starting point is 03:23:41 with you. You know what I mean? Like we're getting a little disconnected. It's only right to we be fair. It still has the connotation of racism in it, how people look at you, and we know about the French relationship with Africa and their money and blah blah. It's a lot of deep things that's happening at one time. You mentioned like Story OJ. It's like just idea that once you've attained the success, you're a different person. Like you walk in is a different person. And I believe, like, OJ got to a point where he thought he was bigger than race. And he was like, no, I'm not black. I'm OJ. And it was like, okay, right? Because the moment you're not OJ, we're going to see how that ends. Whereas, you know, myself, I show up as myself.
Starting point is 03:24:27 And writing that in the song, it's just like, there's a responsibility that I have. And I think everyone has this come from certain places where we come from. That's such a great theme. And actually very true by Jay, but this is where the slippery slope exists, is that him having that, he has his ability that I think Drake doesn't have, and Kendrick has a little bit,
Starting point is 03:24:50 which is he could bring culture into something that's so relatable in music that we almost think he's a leader. And that's the thing about like when we get rappers who are good with putting words together and thoughts together, and especially if they have a, a cultural or a, you know, societal, um, let's say,
Starting point is 03:25:11 I guess I would say cultural or let's say racial perspective. We think that they have the answers, right? Like what he's saying about, oh, this guy feels disconnected with us because he's like, I'm not black, I'm OJ. That's such a brilliant idea. Here's a problem. Jay takes that and you're going to hear him say like, you know, he feels like he has some, you know, not pressure, but he feels like he has to represent certain things in his music,
Starting point is 03:25:40 we start looking at Jay as if Jay is for us. Like Jay, like we make people really, we put people into leadership position in the black plight and black struggle and in culture quicker than they even want to apply for it. All you got to do is some, you say some pandering shit, and we just assume that everything else you got going on is for the benefit of culture.
Starting point is 03:26:06 And you're going to hear, I think you're going to hear him kind of explain how much he cares, but like that don't mean we should listen to Jay-Z. There's a responsibility that I have, and I think everyone has this come from certain places where we come from that just comes with it. That's just the responsibility you carry. Like when you walk in the room, you ain't walking in just a solo. You represent the history of what's been done in this country, and they don't have to be all loud.
Starting point is 03:26:36 It's like every second of the day, but it's there. It's like air. The thing about V is she's actually an underrated songwriter. She really can write songs, but she does so much that I think what she gravitates towards is a producer. I think she likes songwriting. I never asked her this question. I'm going to ask her this question. Bro.
Starting point is 03:27:03 Which one of Beyonce's biggest hits has been? Beyonce wrote herself. To the left, to the left, that's Neo. So irreplaceable, that's Neo. I know what songs, we could, look, the Dream wrote a bunch of songs. What songs did The Dream write for Beyonce? Like, Beyonce's catalog, single ladies, cuff it.
Starting point is 03:27:27 Listen, the thing with Beyonce, and like, I'm not going to say she's a ventriloquist. I'm sure she's definitely talented. but we got to be very, very open and honest that, and I'm going to say it about Rihanna too. Writing is not the first thing that comes to my mind. Umbrella was written by the dream. That's Rihanna's song.
Starting point is 03:27:46 Single ladies, Beyonce's song written by the dream. Work, work, work, work by Rihanna, written by party next door. Like, you know, not to shit on them for their lack of songwriting, but when we're bigging up people for songwriting, why do we have to big up the people who pretty much they're the representation of other people's work? You know?
Starting point is 03:28:10 Like, if we're going to talk about songwriters for Beyonce, talk about the actual songwriters. Question, but I think she likes songwriting. She loves producer. Somebody in the chat says, Unpredictable says, Varia writes all of her songs. Really?
Starting point is 03:28:28 Because the thing she does is unbelievable. It's like she'll hear snare from a song that maybe we heard once a year ago, where she'll just pull a snare from somewhere or like take this song and mix it with this song and then put that bridge over here or, you know, have a completely different song on a completely different beat and make it work for a whole other project. You know, I'm watching that like, wow, inspired by, you know, what she's doing. And I never really thought about that, but I'm almost sure like she likes songwriting. She loves
Starting point is 03:29:04 producing. Yeah. Remember, hip hop was about the gift of discovery. They like pushing people into the production category when those people aren't writers. Oh, no, they don't write. It's like the DJ Calid thing.
Starting point is 03:29:20 Oh, yeah, he might not, but he produces. The idea of production is that it has so many meanings. Production could be rearrangement. Production could just be okay, you pick the beat. It could be anything from a wide range of things
Starting point is 03:29:36 to even down to you actually creating the harmonies and you fucking leading a orchestral, like, interlude where you're damn near the conductor or you're fucking sitting in with people who are writing, like, notes for a music, you know, whether it's an orchestra or violinist or someone who plays a cello or the harp to play. and you're actually writing the music notes or you're coming up with the chords.
Starting point is 03:30:05 But the reason I'm saying that is that that's a one-size-fits-all thing. When they say producer, you don't know what that person has done. Like, for example, usually with Kanye West, we've never known Kanye West to be an expert pianist, but he always, he programs drums,
Starting point is 03:30:23 melody-wise, you know, even though he's limited with maybe what he's, he's not Zathoven or with the keys, but sampling, He's like production wise, Kanye does about like, I want to say like 85% of what's really, I don't want to say a true producer, but any producer that does everything, right?
Starting point is 03:30:43 Because you could be a producer and only program drums. You could producer who just only does piano riffs and then you kind of send them out as packs. You could be the producer who is good at just kind of structuring and like, you know, oh, take this off of it, blah, blah. So when you see them push, when he says Beyonce is a good producer,
Starting point is 03:31:00 she's a good person to kind of like come after the fact and say, oh, this could be here and this could not be here. Be honest, I don't got a fucking musical talent in a sense of producing what you would normally think producing is making a beat. Playing the piano. No. Fuck no. You know what I mean? Little amount of people do. But when you hear a producer, you think that, but I think it's very important to know he's talking about the non-technical parts of being a producer, which all still helps to make a great record.
Starting point is 03:31:30 though. That was it. When you went to school, you couldn't have... Somebody said, how you know? Because you could look on every fucking Beyonce album, and she's never gotten a piano credit ever in her fucking life. Like, you're dumb? Like, you know, credits exist.
Starting point is 03:31:45 And you know, if Beyonce ever programmed a fucking drum loop, you know, it would probably be set, right? Like, this is not speculation right here. Like, look at her discography. One thing I always give Beyonce credit for, she credits her... Let's go to Lemonade. I like lemonade.
Starting point is 03:32:09 She credits her entire team a lot with everything they do. Kanye does it too. So let's go into who's actually credit for doing what, okay? Let's go into what's credited for who does what. You see right here? Do you see right here? These are the fucking, this is what they're credited for. She gets vocal credit.
Starting point is 03:32:37 Just like all these people, vocal credit. When people think of production, they don't think about the actual artist just singing. When they're thinking about production, they're thinking about string arrangements. That's moving shit around. String arrangements, putting together these riffs, coming up with all these Sins and...
Starting point is 03:32:54 Yes, strings and orchestration. String, string, strings. You see these people? None of them are named fucking Beyonce, because she's not fucking playing an instrument. You didn't think I said, how do I know? The thing you fucking know,
Starting point is 03:33:05 she's not playing the instrument. She's not playing a motherfucking instrument. You get what I'm saying? As opposed to other people Yay will actually fuck around. Now, I'm telling you, Ye's not the best at it. Like, have y'all seen...
Starting point is 03:33:24 What's his name? Zay Tovin. You know why, even when I got into production, you know why people fuck with samples a lot? Because we're all not classically trained. Like, you can't really come up with, like, a really dope, like, top 10 hit song just off playing the piano.
Starting point is 03:33:41 Because number one, remember music is just putting together a bunch of notes. and even when you put them together simultaneously, which is courts, what are you going to come? Like, it takes real talent to know, okay, this is a C major. Maybe you want to go to a, okay, the progression over this time span,
Starting point is 03:34:00 you know, it could be like, what is the 4-4 or whatever it is, and you're putting these things together in a drum loop or like, you know, a 4-bar loop or 8-bar loop or whatever, and you're coming up with this riff. Like, we got to, like, I know you keep thinking that, like,
Starting point is 03:34:14 Beyonce is the fucking doing the whole thing. No, she fucking isn't. She's singing. And half the time she doesn't even write the words. But like one thing I always want to give credit to, like, look at this. Like, this is fucking talent. 99% of producers
Starting point is 03:34:34 can't do this. First of all, they can't read music. Even if they play, they know how to play and they play by ear, they can't, it would take them forever to come up with this. that's why when real talent walks in the building the producers who usually get the credit gravitate to these guys
Starting point is 03:35:03 if you think Beyonce's doing this you're an idiot I'll give you another example why do you think Scott Storch made $100 million in his life ever see Scott Storce play the piano Dr. Drake can't play the piano to save his fucking life I mean he knows basic stuff by now but looks Scott Storch who's classically trained knows how to take
Starting point is 03:35:27 knows how to take classic chords and progressions and make them in a way that is hip hop bass that hard drums could go over it this is why 80% of hip hop is samples they take what's already there they don't come up with their own core progression they sample a song that uses that core progression
Starting point is 03:35:51 they speed it up a little bit or they try to like omit maybe like you know they just go with the octaves Whenever you go, you got to play a piano. You're on his, I get a hit. Just a little bit. Hit him with the George Rolte. This is how you could blow a hundred million dollars on snoring coke.
Starting point is 03:36:29 The judge was shot. The John's involved to get to dance better. It wasn't really a piano song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Baby don't worry. Now, that's, that's, that's, yeah. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 03:36:44 Come on. Come on. See, I stop playing. That's what I'm talking. When I think about producers, that's what I be thinking about. Yeah, most producers can't go, go into a fucking studio and hold down. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:37:11 They could hold down maybe an MPC or they come through with a fruity loose and they can fuck around with like a synth finder or some shit like that, you know? But like, these things right here, this is what I think is like, these are the ultimate talent. when it comes to producer. So when they say Beyonce is a producer, I'm like, I think about this. Now, some people might be like, no,
Starting point is 03:37:27 that's just the beat maker. It's like, well, usually the beat maker is doing this and also compiling the track and sometimes they're helping the engineer to do whatever they got to do. Break your motherfucking neck. Right? This.
Starting point is 03:37:42 Now, this guy is super talented. Let me see. I'm in a need. Don't worry. You know that you got me. That's dope. Damn. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 03:38:06 What's happening right now? What are you? Yeah. That really like. You ain't up on things. Yeah, wait. Damn, Scott Stor's live. Every.
Starting point is 03:38:35 He's two sounds I ain't going to capuch. As I said, this is why he get $100 million. Okay, anyway. So Jay-Z's saying she's a producer. They call DJ Caller the producer. You know what DJ Callet does? He rearranges shit.
Starting point is 03:39:00 Right? He takes the beat. He might be like, yo, let's chop out this part. And that is still technically a producer. Don't get me fucked up. It's still a producer. But they're like,
Starting point is 03:39:09 you ever seen, this guy right here. Danger Hands. This nigga was nasty. You remember this song. He was, he was like in Timberland, I want to say later years, but he was the guy who was cooking up all Timberland's good shit. Plug sound pro.
Starting point is 03:39:38 This guy was going crazy. I don't know. Danger Hands? That nigga is nasty. He used to ghost produce for Timberland for a while. Yeah, he did my love. Yeah. This one Timberland was, So Timberland was used his name.
Starting point is 03:39:57 He charged a million of beat. But this guy was the genius behind it. Danger Hands. Oh, yeah, he's showing how he produces. Look. Welcome to... He knows it's like a dick. All right.
Starting point is 03:40:14 But I was using them in a rich way. The musical choice started from the beginning with the core progression, allow a song to be written and allow space for a real copyright. That's the goal. That's the goal even to the day is to leave space, no matter. Yeah, there's levels with producers. When y'all think you start talking about producers, I'm like, please stop it. Like, Beyonce's in there saying, you know, take that out.
Starting point is 03:40:42 That sound corny. That's it. These guys are real producers, if you ask me. Have the person that it was already good. You have to say, yo, I got the new tape of somebody you never heard of. Kanye could play the piano by ear. Like, he's not classically trained. Kanye could play the piano by ear. He's not great like these guys, but Kanye has always used samples.
Starting point is 03:41:06 But when you've worked with music that much as a producer, even if you can't read music, you learn chord progressions. Like, you could, if I have a piano right here. Like, just off, and I used to play piano back in church, like, when I was a little kid. I don't know. Like, well, I know to read music, just not prolifically where I could just read a music sheet and just play it. But I could tell you a difference between, okay, C major, A, Fla, like, you know, all of these things. that are just music type of things,
Starting point is 03:41:39 but like, can I just play off of what I'm reading? Because it's like a language. No, I can't. Clearly, Zaytovin can. Kanye can't, but he doesn't need to. I think Swiss beats could play too. Swiss, which usually sample producers can't play. That's why they use samples.
Starting point is 03:41:56 But I've seen Swiss beats. No, well, his wife is fucking, um, Alicia Keys. Oh, because I've seen a piano in their house. Maybe he can't play. No, no, I've seen him, but he, he don't play like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's on some one-finger shit, like making music on the keys.
Starting point is 03:42:15 But Alicia Keys, she plays the piano, obviously by her fucking name, right? You know what I mean? Like, she really got to play as well. Yeah. Jolly's just knows how to play too. And not say you've got to know how to play the piano, but what I'm saying is that, like, you got to, like, for me, as a producer, you got to have some type of musical fucking understanding.
Starting point is 03:42:41 understand it. Like, I don't think Beyonce could mix a fucking record. I don't think she could EQ a record. I don't think she could do nothing other than say, hey, this shouldn't be here because she obviously understands music, but does she know how to
Starting point is 03:42:57 play it? Probably not. The fuck. I was like this. This is like some Adele type, you know, Rome. Why happened to Adele? Did she just get married to, like, LeBron's homie and just called it quits? What happened to Adele? Rolling in the
Starting point is 03:43:13 That's my song, man. Is she married, bro? She got engaged to Rich Paul. God damn. She can't play the piano, though. But those ballads go real good with pianos. Let me see. This might have been live instrumentation.
Starting point is 03:43:44 All right. Back to Jay. And it actually told the story of you. That's why hip-hop became so big. Because everyone wanted to feel those feelings. I tell people all the time, never fight against the future. Future's coming. Artists, they were trying to recreate something that was already done.
Starting point is 03:44:11 But they're not connected to it like that. They're not living it and breathing it. They were fighting against gravity as opposed to telling their story. We needed that other side. We needed to hear about what happens when you've had four successful albums. What happens? What is that feeling like? How do you make the next one?
Starting point is 03:44:32 How did you get in the studio? How are your kids? How do you interact with them? There's this hip-hop dad. But if you're trying to make young music and you're not young, it's going to be inauthentic and people could feel that.
Starting point is 03:44:47 You can smell it. So the best thing that anyone can do like going through music. Okay, let me catch this part. He's saying that. Best four albums. What happens? What is that feeling like?
Starting point is 03:44:58 How do you make the next one? How did you get in the studio? How are your kids? How do you interact with them as this hip-hop dad? But if you're trying to make young music and you're not young, it's going to be inauthentic and people could feel that. You can smell it. So the best thing that anyone can do like going through music is to tell a story
Starting point is 03:45:21 and just keep creating from that space. I love what the clips are doing right now and how it's authentic. But if you're trying to make young music and you're not, you know, you're not young, it's going to be inauthentic. Hey, yo, you see, I'm going to say the elephant in the room, man. This is hating as Jay-Z once again. He's talking to Drake, man. You know, Drake turning 40 this year.
Starting point is 03:45:47 He's trying to, like, yo, he's one of them type of nigg is going to give you the bad advice that hopefully you follow. And then when you get unsuccessful, he'd be like, well, at least you tried. You know, at least you, you know what them people would be like, well, at least you did. the right way. Man, if you don't get the fuck out of here, Jay-Z. Jay-Z had a whole career.
Starting point is 03:46:05 That nigga said 30's a new 20 when he became 30. The niggins said, I'm young forever. And now that he's 70, he's trying to tell other niggins, nah, y'all got to make music like y'all old now, man. Nah, don't do what I was doing saying 30 to new 20, young forever. Y'all got to make, y'all, y'all got to lead the youth alone. Man, Gives this ain't get the fuck out of here. I keep telling y'all, man.
Starting point is 03:46:28 Jay Z, the type of nigger, bruff, when he ready to... Yo, Jay Z likes to put a bow in a lot of bullshit. The guy's 70, half his life. Jay Z was like 50 when he was like, yo, I'm young forever.
Starting point is 03:46:45 What you mean, young forever? Let's go... Let's go back and check out the math. Jay Z. Forever young. That's what we be forever young. 2009. Jay Z made that shit That he's young forever
Starting point is 03:47:01 Okay It was a song on the album released in 2010 How old is Jayzee now Jayzee is 56 In 2026 That means In 2010 Which is 16 years ago
Starting point is 03:47:22 16 years ago This nigga is 40 Talking about he forever young 40 Forever. Hating ass nigger. Hating. You know what?
Starting point is 03:47:36 The other niggas, yo, hip-hop's top guys now? They're about to be 40. You know what he's trying to tell him? Nah, man. We used to tell him that. You grandpa hove now. He ain't want to hear it. Forever Young.
Starting point is 03:47:48 That's what he's saying. 30's the new 20. He was on that old Kelly shit. That's what Kelly was telling him hoes. You know, Kelly was telling them 16 to New 26. Like, I don't know what Kelly was telling. telling them real talk but he was trying to switch up to eight what you mean 30 the new 20 gang what you mean about that gang 30 new 20 how that work j z switched up all the rules for him now that he's
Starting point is 03:48:16 75 he's trying to tell y'all niggas act your age man this is crazy man i keep telling you about hove man hove a cold piece of work hove cold when hove is 40 forever young hove is 70 yo y'all niggis act your age and leave the youth alone. Jay's he at 35? 30 is the new 20. Jay looking at you at 35? Nick, it's time for you to pack it up, man. It's time to retire.
Starting point is 03:48:49 Man, Jay's a, yo, Jay, yo, I love how Jay hates. I love how he hates. They're not connected to it like that. They're not living it and breathing it. They were fighting against gravity as opposed to telling their story. We needed that.
Starting point is 03:49:05 beside. Yo, Jay, you was like 45, nigger, trying to make songs with Drake back in 2013, trying to keep up with the wave, nigga. Even when you were making a song with Yeh, nigga, you was an old man, nigga. You were a grandpa hove, nigga. Like, if, if you were allowed to do all this grandpa raps, why you, I feel like he's slink hanging on the new niggas. Yeah, yo, dot like fit 40, cold 40, Drake for the be 40s. Like, he's telling them like, now come over here to the grandpa status. No. nigga Jay Z only accepted the grandpa status once he hit like 55 now you tellin niggas y'all ya y'all got to ya y'all got to start acting y'all age huh the nigga that had a
Starting point is 03:49:50 song called forever young ya ya never heard this Jay Z dropped us at 40 yo Jay Z was 40 years old when he dropped this on bro any new artist man Jay does hate on y'all jay like Michael Jordan you know Michael can't suit up no more so So Michael just be throwing hate out to, like, the new niggas who bought to beat his record and, like, be considered the greatest. Like, just, he always got that shade. If you great, don't listen to Jay-Z. Because Jay-Z don't want none of y'all to pass his, like, legacy overall, my nigga. Telling y'all, like, y'all need to slow down.
Starting point is 03:50:23 Like, man. Like, rap age appropriately, man. Y'all n'all niggum back, Beyonce here, like 30. She was like 17, nigga, like, we don't know. You can't listen to Jay. Man, shut up, Jay. Shut up. We'll see you at Yankee State.
Starting point is 03:50:38 Shut your bitch ass. You Jay just talking a whole bag of fuckery. Yo, Jay, you always been 10 years older than all your peers. How are you going to tell niggins to like make age appropriate music and like grow with you? Yo, shut up, Jay. Jay capping, man. Making forever young 30 to new 20. This nigga was capping the whole time.
Starting point is 03:51:03 He was age obsessed. Cut it off, man. Cut it off, man But, yo, again, you know, maybe, you know, I give him a little credit. Maybe he's speaking like, okay, I was the old dude chasing youth type shit. You know, one of his most introspective records with him kind of acknowledging his age was when, like, he was chasing Beyonce. And basically him chasing Beyonce, he realized like, yo, bro, you're like 15 years older than her,
Starting point is 03:51:35 Shorty. Like, you know, he was like, yo, I'm ready. to go like settle down and she she's on the road type shit here we go yeah remember this and he basically said yo bisona like you i'm like 20 years old and basically he said yo bianci was on some samaya shit back then words but he loved her so like you're gonna see he said and honestly at 23 because she was 23 like jay was like 40 jay was 40 if what i'm saying in that yo he's 40 She's 23. At that time in her mind, she's preferring work over him.
Starting point is 03:52:10 And I go a lot. Like, you know, I get it. I get it. I get it. He's a grown-ass man. Like, he's 40 years old. His girl is 23. Yeah, she want to go fucking go like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Starting point is 03:52:24 Like, you know, she want to be like, you know, one of them little Destiny Child song. That's what she wanted to do. He wanted her to sell down and probably be a housewife on some shit, you know? make sure you take all this shit out. Jay going to strike this bitch. Take all this Jay's shit out. Jay for the strike this shit.
Starting point is 03:52:41 Yo, you know Jay don't like me talking about him no more. Jay got his man's trying to strike any time I talk about him. He said, he says, he basically kind of acknowledges where he's at in life. He's basically saying, I'm getting older. And I want to move on to this part of my life, but she's young. And I got to compromise by allowing her, her time to, like, explore shit. and it's kind of interesting because he's acknowledging that everything that he wants her to move on to, he's already experienced and he can't rob her of her experiencing it.
Starting point is 03:53:15 But he's not kind of putting himself on a time clock, but he kind of is in a way. As mature approach, he was like, he's like, my time is too short to share. Like, you could tell Jay was at the point in his life where, you know, he realized he's older. Like, he's 40. You know what I mean? And he's like, bro, like, I can't sit around while you, You know what I mean? And I understand that too.
Starting point is 03:53:35 Because like these days, if I talk to a chick that's like 22, that bitch want to go party and get fucked in Houston and Atlanta and Miami for the next four years. You don't got time to wait for four years of her getting fucked and tossed around for her to realize that. No, you got to, you might as well go get a 28-year-old. That ass. You know what I mean? So I get what he was thinking that, you might as well get a age-appropriate woman who doesn't live those things that it could match your time schedule if you were trying to.
Starting point is 03:54:03 trying to do some shit quickly. To ask her now to be on my time and ain't fair. Is she the one that got canceled for a rocket with Trump? I love her. Sorry, you're my champ. Okay, anyway. All right, let's finish the Jay interview. To it like that.
Starting point is 03:54:18 They're not living it and breathing it. They were fighting against gravity as opposed to telling their story. We needed that other side. Okay, I'm going back a little bit. So this is basically him saying that artists need to be true to what they're living. but he's also using this idea of the older you are, you're disconnected from what the actual person is living now. The only thing I would push back on him and say,
Starting point is 03:54:43 even though I think it's being a hypocrite because he's the one who said 30s and you 20, to send 30. I'll disagree only in this sense. And let me use Drake. I think Drake is about to be 40 and he's still living like he's 22. Honestly.
Starting point is 03:55:01 So it's not like Drake got, But ladies, I think the girls in, the girls that made music, like, what's the name of that shit? The girls that made all this slut music, the reason why all that shit is erupting and only sexy red is winning is because you're not sluts. Yo, Megastallion is fucking bawling because the niggas said he, she got to share that dick. Well, I thought that's what she made music about sharing dick. Megastalian music is literally about sharing cock. I'm a hot girl. I'm outside.
Starting point is 03:55:33 I'm fucking for the bag. And now a nigga give you the reality of, okay, Shorty, we're gonna give you what you want. But this dick is gonna be shared with all the bitches. Now she's crying. She's bawling on stage. Bitch, didn't you rap that this what you wanted? These six are all lined.
Starting point is 03:55:50 They're not rapping about their real lives. They don't want to be real hoes. That's why I like sexy red. Sexy Red is a real ho. Rapping about hoeing. We, listen, sexy red is like King Vaughn for gangster rappers.
Starting point is 03:56:08 You bitches were lying about hoeing. She's hoeing. That's why we love her. We want reality. I don't care what facet. I don't want to hear these niggas rap about smoking niggas and spinning blocks. You don't even catch a charge.
Starting point is 03:56:21 I want my rappers to kill niggas, man. Fuck it, man. My rappers are rapping about kill niggas, man. Come on. Yo, when I heard push I see Rob Gucci, I couldn't be more excited, man. Fuck out of him. Yo, y'all's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 03:56:31 Y'all can't be listening to all this capri, bro. Yeah, you're okay. Oh, what? Oh, shit. I bet first day I part two. Nah, come on, I can't be listening to the cap, bro. I can't, I can't listen to the cap. I can't listen to the cap in no type of way.
Starting point is 03:56:47 I'm listening to Kareesh and them and JT saying they hoes. They love host shit. They only love to the money. And then they're crying over a little Uzi Verde and Diddy holding up signs. And motherfucking, you have this chick crying over Clay Thompson. What? I thought it was City Girl Summer. This ain't no city. How's a city girl crying over a nigga, bro?
Starting point is 03:57:07 How's a hot girl crying over a fucking basketball player, bro? Y'all are always capping. Y'all got to be like sexy red. Sexy Red fucking Chief Keith, maybe Drake hit. She does, she claim every nigga as her a nigga. We ain't see her tender yet. We ain't see her tender yet. She a real ho.
Starting point is 03:57:28 I love her. I love her. All these other wannabe hoes, they all getting exposed. Why the fuck is you crying over Clay Thompson? He don't want to be monogamous with me. Bitch, ain't you a hot girl? I keep telling you, man, the world is order-correcting. It's all the correct right now.
Starting point is 03:57:53 All the haters start liking Drake again, world is all the correcting. And all these fake-ass hoes is finally shaking the act. Also, all the chicks that thought they could promote Hoan for three years after the pandemic because they're like, oh, we bitch, we back outside. You're going to stay outside. Street meat will never be filet mignon. Put that in the press. Street meat will never be filet mignon.
Starting point is 03:58:20 We know the difference. We know the difference. You street meat. You street meat. Stop it. Street meat is not filet mignon, chat. Memba told you. They all figuring it out.
Starting point is 03:58:34 Why he don't want to be monoges smooth meat? I hate giving out my heart I'm so pure No you're a ho You said you were a hole You wrapped up I being a hole You told niggas all you had to offer Was a wet-ass pussy
Starting point is 03:58:49 It clearly ain't wet enough The nigga wants some other shit Street meat will not be confused For filet mignon Stop it Yo shit we catch at the halal truck Of 48th in New York We're not going to catch it at Poppy Steak in Miami
Starting point is 03:59:11 Never Cut it out. That street mean, we've been seeing it. Getting out of hand, chat. It's getting out of hand. Just getting out of here. This year we're auto-corrected, man. All the holes that probably hold out for years are now coming back around saying,
Starting point is 03:59:37 okay, it's time to get monogamous with me. Who the fuck will get monogamous with one of these holes? And let's keep it a bean. Only a, listen, unless, unless she bought a trick on you, pull at this. When all y'all cheeks, all y' y'all cheeks, like Selena power. Like no this is Selena but I gotta keep it to be. Only way a nigga should even get with Selena, Selena got a foot the bill.
Starting point is 04:00:01 Like you run into Selena's bank account. Like bro, you're a hoe. Like straight up. Like all these chicks, unless they're gonna find, ain't, you ain't gonna find a richer nigga to take care of you when you are the hoe. The ho's got to foot the bill. The streets got to pay the tab. All y'all y'all chicks, y'all can find a monogas, man, you just got to pay all the bills. Hopefully you got some money from hoeing. But niggins don't got no problem like, like, Like, niggies don't got no problem with being with a hole as long as she, she paying for everything. She buying you a chain. She doing this.
Starting point is 04:00:28 That's how it going to be. Y'all not going to get with a richer dude, though. Well, how'd that work? Ask Selena. Sleena, Sleon, only day, bro, niggas. You get with Selena, she buy you a chain, a car, everything. Got no option. I don't respect to her.
Starting point is 04:00:40 That's my homie still. Well, I got to keep it a bean. I'm just trying to tell y'all, man, street meat will not be confused for no goddamn filetmen. You know, okay? And the reality is that when we're talking about like And we're talking about these chicks that were proud hosts for years like yo yeah CD girls shit you know I mean like like like yo you see you see these sozy business making It's that season when niggins spend a bag for no reason
Starting point is 04:01:11 Bitch what is you talking about? I got you heard you Y'all fin to get cheated on. Yo you know it's crazy the women created this whole environment I don't want to see no girl on the shade room, no girl on Ball Alert or nothing like that, or Hollywood on Lock or them gay niggas on fucking, well, we ain't even talking to gay niggas,
Starting point is 04:01:32 but like all the girls that be on, neighborhood talk, why y'all complaining that a niggots not be monogamous to a woman who basically promoted promiscuity her entire time? Sound like that they're giving her the same energy. You are, you, you're a hot girl.
Starting point is 04:01:52 Well, he's a hot boy. Pause. Why the fuck you would want to be Yo Why would Clay Thompson Want to be monogamous to a chick That was getting tossed
Starting point is 04:02:04 And ransacked by every nigga around here man Blueface catching pity head The baby bopping up in the pussy Tori fucking you and your friend Party font Like come on gang Like after a while you just look like Yo
Starting point is 04:02:22 Hey Did you see I fucking God this even happened. The only nigga, like, no disrespect to party fontaine. I know he'd be writing songs, so he probably well off on some money shit, but he's not that the littest nigga. He's the only nigga that wrote a song like he was heard about her.
Starting point is 04:02:38 Look, Party Fontaine. Party. He wrote a song, and even then, he was basically saying she's street meat. Look, y'all never heard a song? Look, he wrote a song about her. He basically said, yo, you were bringing me around niggies that, look, look, look at this. This is a song. The nigger wrote about her.
Starting point is 04:02:58 If you're saying, Act, why are you calling it street meat? Bro, this ain't, this ain't no good cut of steak we're talking about. Say no filet mignon. This is, man, this is some street meat type of shit, bro. Check this out. This is how party had to drop a song about her.
Starting point is 04:03:14 The nigga even regret dating her, nigga, because it's a bop. Listen. Shit, I got to love you from a distance. Same nigga that you did on the tags for the beats. You let that nigga tag, let them beat. The niggies that's, that's, you did the tag for his beats you let that nigga tag and beat you fucking even the
Starting point is 04:03:34 producers bruff this your man saying this ain't me yo this is street meat bro this is a bop this is a bop yeah she's from bop culture fuck anything walking straight up that you did all the tags for the beats you let that niggas tag let them beat you let me give them that when we meet And you let your men zap up the... Ah! A Bopatra, chat. I told y'all. Y'all over here watching these tears.
Starting point is 04:04:06 Like, these chicks were perfect... Like, they promoted the culture of hoeing and escorting. They promoted the culture of hoeing and escort. Like, how they're starting to... Yo, y'all ever seen, like, a strip... You ever seen, like... I don't know if y' y'all fuck with, like, strippers or, like, you know, anybody's sex work?
Starting point is 04:04:23 They catch a feeling that? Like, what the fuck? Even that I kept discreet I asked you to your face Niggins say he took the L He said I dabbed the nigga up that you That you fucked that made the beat
Starting point is 04:04:35 And after I realized you fucked him I kept it discreet I took the L in silence Let me give him that when we meet Even that I kept discreet I asked you to your face Did you fuck them niggins Chad
Starting point is 04:04:49 Without you hearing the rest of it I ask you to your face If you fuck them niggas What do y'all think they are answer was. You know what the answer was? Hold up. Yo, the niggins said, I ask you to your face.
Starting point is 04:05:05 Did you fuck them niggas? The answer was this right here, nigga. This was the answer. To Gil King. Nah, come on. Yes, I lied to Gil King. You probably know that you can't ask me about this. Who's going to talk about this shoe?
Starting point is 04:05:29 Why did you ask me about that story? That's not what this is about. Party up in the Christmas. Yo, did you fuck them niggis? Them niggins. And you swore on your mother. Oh, nah. Yo, hit him with one of them shot rack.
Starting point is 04:05:47 Oh, four, them grave. All my kids. Oh, for them grave. All my kids, I ain't fucked. Nah. Nah. That's daumago, gang. And you swore on your mother.
Starting point is 04:06:03 I knew from me and I couldn't trust them. Nah, W-MEC, W-Meg for that. If Meg put it on her mother, that's W-A-W-A-W-Meg. Sometimes I see people like, they're going so hard with. I'm like, it's not even an L-O-M-I'm like, damn. She's committed to the plot. Fuck it. Damn.
Starting point is 04:06:24 By the way, I owe to be respect for her mom passed away. So I don't know about this story, but that's what her ex-man is saying. She dated this nigga. She dated him. They were kissy-kissy and rubby-rubby all over the place. He's saying this shit. It's ain't me, chat. He said he asked her.
Starting point is 04:06:39 You fuck them, niggas. She said, oh, my mom, I ain't doing it. Oh, my damn mom, I ain't doing it. Okay. Holy. I knew from me and I couldn't trust her. More lies from the lips of a lover. Oh, man.
Starting point is 04:06:51 Same lips that I got tatted on my shoulders. You got the lips tatted on his shoulder? Oh, my God. No way. Oh, no way. Hold on. Party Fontaine tattoos. lips,
Starting point is 04:07:05 nah, he ain't do that type of shit. He didn't do that shit. Let me see. Nah, he probably did. Once I seen he tattooed feminists, I was like,
Starting point is 04:07:16 nah, they got him. Yo, that nigga was, yo, I ain't gonna lie. This I knew Meggain shit. When you,
Starting point is 04:07:22 yo, she had a nigga that tattoo just feminist on himself. Like, yo, imagine me. Nigga, what the fuck?
Starting point is 04:07:29 Nigga, that's like me tattooing, I don't even know. KKK on my body. What the hell? What the fuck? Nick tattooed feminist. Ah?
Starting point is 04:07:36 Yo, what the fuck? Oh, shit. Wait, he actually took a picture like this? Nah. Nah, Meg, I would have been exposing you every fucking day, nigga. I tatted this just to make you feel good and your lips and all this bo- Oh, you fuck the baby. You were sucking up on blue face.
Starting point is 04:07:56 Oh, shit, this is crazy. Nah, shot to Meg, man. Yeah, but Meg, yo, come on, man. You get a Meg at the Halal truck, bro. You don't get it that pop. be steak. That ain't. That ain't. That ain't. It's okay. It's okay, Mac. We still love you. We still love you. We still love you. We still love you. You see her ass crying? Her ass showed up on some shit bawling like a motherfucker. Like she's still in disbelief. I'll be honest with her. This is the
Starting point is 04:08:48 closest she's going to get to being a victim. Meg been trying for four years to be a victim and not one person believed it. She's getting close here. I seen some chicks on Shade Room that they were kind of, you know, they were kind of buying it. They were like, oh my God, the tears. I We love you, Meg still. We love you. That's the confusing thing about Meg with me. How the hell she can't, how the hell she's been trying for four years to be a victim?
Starting point is 04:09:09 How that work? Four fucking years? It's like, niggies just ain't buying it, too. On the shade room they did. The shade room they did, hang on on. I see a lot of chicks that send me dead threats. I was like, oh my God, how could you say you're glad that she got cheated on? And I said, yes, bitch.
Starting point is 04:09:35 I said, I'm glad she got cheated on. The fuck? Where is it? Damn, DJ Muster got on you, bitch? Let me say if she got a baddie I always got to check to see what niggas got going on His last chick She was tight
Starting point is 04:10:02 She was like yo that nigga did me wrong Oh this is her No this is the X one This is an X oh this is the new girl Yes upgrade W DJ DJ Mustard He went from this To this
Starting point is 04:10:28 Upgrade facts Good job boy Good job Okay anyway Let me look at their posting of this Everybody was like You know Oh my God
Starting point is 04:10:39 she's crying on stage I hope she's doing good this whole thing so much she got emotional and shit let's see I wasn't out here I'll go to Hollywood on lock or something shit
Starting point is 04:10:52 okay this shit ain't loaded Hollywood on lock we got that we got it we got it got where's the shit with her crying oh we should cover that meek mill shit before I get off this time right I told you I was only doing like three hours we had four and a half
Starting point is 04:11:25 little key oh shit we got to talk about Vlad saying that Nikki husband like cheated on our assumption cheat on her I mean All right Who gives the fuck
Starting point is 04:11:38 Oh is it here Okay okay This is it right here Child I hate working out The man nigga Undisappointed me too Baby
Starting point is 04:11:46 I know that feeling This gonna be A last public relationship Y'allit She's been dying to She's been dying To try to Be a victim
Starting point is 04:11:54 Stay on me a last It's like one of her first Some Sometimes your soulmate It's just you Blessings may come fast Yeah see It's working on here
Starting point is 04:12:01 Nothing worse and having to go to work after her heartbreak. This was so needed. What a generational fumble. Yo, I ain't a lot of people. People are bugged the fuck out. They think that Clay fumbled her. Yo, this shit,
Starting point is 04:12:14 yo, we live in a cold world, bro. Meg, don't share any more relationships publicly, baby. Just move in silence. I'm praying for her. God, God, she needs you. That man says he doesn't believe in monogamy. What more do we need? Clay always gave me a weird fucking vibe.
Starting point is 04:12:33 y'all the love in the room was electric she was magnetic throughout and when the room reminded her that she is loved i don't allow you she's getting more love now than the tory thing she might go with his heartbreak for a minute meg been desperate to try to be a victim so a couple of them girlies rocking wear now it's okay baby next time when you make spaghetti for a nigger don't forget the secret ingredient she's human what do y'all expect she's heartbroken we love you meg of our queen cries, we all cry. Let me just suggest your crown, baby. Yeah, it's working.
Starting point is 04:13:09 Fuck, it's working. One real nigga in here. Man, fuck all that. Free Tory, dick. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But the thing is, you know what it works? Because all women could understand heartbreak.
Starting point is 04:13:21 The Tory thing kind of torn people. Listen to this delusional mess right here. After they said that Meg is the one who's like fucking saving. Or they'd be like, oh, he fumbled. How could they really think Clay fumbled the back? Check this out, chat. We didn't know Clay Thompson before Meg the Stallion. We didn't know Stefan Diggs before Cardi B.
Starting point is 04:13:44 And while these guys have more money than these girls, these girls have social and global influence. Meg the Stallion made Clay a global start, whether he wants to admit or not. These men like to use these women for come-ups and for social status because, like, don't ever get a twisted, girls. Social currency is still a currency. If you are well-known in your soul,
Starting point is 04:14:04 circle and you are well respected, a guy can use that for social come up because being with you makes him look good. If Medda Stalin is dating him, he must be popping. He must be given guys. You need to be very, very careful because guys are users just like girls. I would even say more. A guy knows when he has a woman that he can use to make himself look better. And I think sometimes the insecurity that we have in ourselves do not allow us to see what we are actually worth, what our currency is. But a man can see it. A man can see it. A man can see. see your value economically before you and it does not even. Yo, this UK Trees is wildly.
Starting point is 04:14:40 Let me tell you this, man. Ain't no way somebody would have a brain thought that Magnus Stey was making Clay Thompson looked like anything more than a bona fide simp, nigger. Just a bozo. Yo, he looked like the dumbest nigga in the NBA to wipe up the certified bop. Like maybe, we don't know how many niggies in the NBA just got this for the free ski. Late night call.
Starting point is 04:15:04 You know what I mean? Last resort shit. You feel me? Like this is like your man's wiping up the pass around. Like we usually all talk shit about him when you're not in the room. Like yo, this thing is wild in line. I know that's this girl, but yo, this nigga tweaking. Like, yo, he's really wiping or he's just doing this to fuck?
Starting point is 04:15:23 Nah, he's really with her. He's been with her for like two months now. Damn. Yo, y'all niggas ain't telling him. Like, this shit looks crazy. This is a bop. This chick said that. She is putting him on?
Starting point is 04:15:41 Oh, hell, nah, man. Never need to be money. It's status, it's reputation. When you're around his friends, how does you standing next to him? Yo. Yo, when a nigger that comes in the room with the notorious hoe, we be just looking like, like, we all kind of whispering on our breath. Like, yo, this is crazy.
Starting point is 04:16:01 Like, yo, this thing is a really wife in this chick. I ain't a lie. The biggest embarrassment for a nigger is to be with the chick who, who like, who's just kind of has a reputation as a bop, let's be honest. Honestly. There's chicks that I used to, like, deal with. And, like, this is before they went in the bop era.
Starting point is 04:16:21 And then after they'll be like, yo, you know, we should run it back. I can't run it back with you. Like, you know what it's a bop now. But, like, that's embarrassing to stand next to you and claim you like, oh, that's my girl. Yo, we don't see no. There's certain girls or certain people that you can see niggas want to claim.
Starting point is 04:16:37 Anytime you see a, let me see. Let me, this is just in general. Anytime you see a nigga with a girl and he don't have no interest in claiming her, bro, she probably got a bot pass, bro. Like, she done some whole shit. Like, nobody want to be responsible. It's like you're the parent to the hole. Like, you don't want to be the parent to the fucking unruly kid, bro.
Starting point is 04:16:55 Like, that's what's being with a hole is, bro. And I ain't going to call him Meg a hole. I'm just saying that like her. I got to say that not to get sued. Nah, fuck all that. Now, but the point is, Meg got like Yo, Meg got like a
Starting point is 04:17:10 A three-page manifesto with niggas That does hit Straight up Like a three-page You know what I mean? It's like, nigga after nigga Bang bang bang bang bang bang bang Man
Starting point is 04:17:21 Feel me? So it's one of them We're like, yo you walk in any room Niggas is looking like Oh shit, that's my old work Oh shit I hit her after the award show Oh
Starting point is 04:17:31 I copped some head like behind her Sprinter Damn She was sucking me off after the B&T hip bubble anything like niggies is so now you look crazy when you're walking with that chick
Starting point is 04:17:44 because especially you can tell a chick like this you want to kiss you in your mouth other niggies is like ugh straight up this is all allegedly this is all allegedly I think Meg learned a lesson no more fucking courts Trotty get back
Starting point is 04:18:00 to making music we don't give a fuck about you crying man your music is whole music get back on the track and keep it hoeing. We don't want you to start like you looking for love. You don't make love songs, man. Your whole personality is whole shit. Get back to doing what you do.
Starting point is 04:18:16 And, you know what I mean, maybe one of the little twerk anthems, because her body looks good. I ain't going on a lot. She's been working out. She looks good. One of them shit's going to hit, and we're going to rock with it. Like, we don't even hate you that much. You make one of your whole anthems and you start twerking on your tippy toes and when you pop in the ass and we've seen that booty go like this. We might fuck with it. You know what I mean? Some of these chicks that want to just,
Starting point is 04:18:34 they want to be too much. like ice spice make booty jiggling music like you don't see ice spice be like i'm in love let me fuck that make the same shit we like you for man you know just make the stallion man she ain't no fucking poet she ain't no nashidamus yeah anyway him make him feel and look but because a lot of us are insecure a lot of us don't see ourselves the way the outside sees us that's like a guy can pick you and you could be like oh my god he picked me he's a money man he's this no he picked you because you have status because you have social currency and because you're that we didn't know Clay Thompson before Meg the Stalio. We didn't know Stefan Diggs before Cardi B.
Starting point is 04:19:16 And while these guys have more money, Yo, I ain't going to lie. It's like a comedy show when I'm watching this type of shit, bro. Yo, shout to this chick. I ain't even going to comment on it, but I'm going to play it because they try to make, they love trying to sound bullying people. So I ain't see trying to say no, but I just want to play some of this shit. This shit comment.
Starting point is 04:19:32 I'm just, watch it laugh. I haven't got nothing to say about it. You know what I mean? I got no problem, surety. But listen to this shit. She just appeared on my scene. well at least my like orbit but they said Yono speaks on Clay Thompson cheating on Meg
Starting point is 04:19:46 and she said she said these thoughts he had these thoughts you know I knew she was like once I saw her I knew she was a really intelligent woman and um once she opened her mouth it confirmed everything I thought very very smart someone said I don't understand how did my thing not trust no man like you just can't And it's proven and proven time again.
Starting point is 04:20:19 Like, it's proven and proven time again. That's why whenever you get into a relationship for all you little ones out there for boys and girls, they need to prove to you. Treat them guilty until proven innocent. Can I let you in my life? Like, can I let you, you know what I'm saying? Like, Yada actually told me this. She said every man should start off in jail and prove why they should be left out.
Starting point is 04:20:52 and prove yada actually told me this she said every man should start off in jail and prove why they should be loud clocked sis you got it we're going to see how this won't work out great advice
Starting point is 04:21:13 great advice I love it you got it you got it every man should start off in jail and prove why they should be left I don't understand.
Starting point is 04:21:30 Respect. Anyway. Moving on. All right, man. This is getting out of hand, y'all. This shit is getting out of hand. How did we even get on to talk about Megastownian? I don't even know.
Starting point is 04:21:54 Damn, Lado looking pregnant, pregnant. Yolada been looking eight months for the last eight months. They got G. Herbo in the heat? Oh, it's not G. Herbo? This is Sean Marion? That's like G. Herbo. Real quickly. Let's go over to Meat Mill saga.
Starting point is 04:22:19 So Meat Mill recently, I think Meat Mill must have consumed some ayahuasca and some mushrooms, man. That thing has been having all type of revelations and all type of woke shit going on his Twitter in the last, I don't know, I want to say like two months. But recently, he came with a stream of consciousness
Starting point is 04:22:35 and this stream of consciousness is Meek Mill talking about how the music industry has done him ever since he chose to not play their game. What does that mean? He is now an independent artist. And according to him, you know, people are, you know, they've kind of started doing a few things to fuck with.
Starting point is 04:22:50 His name. So let me read a couple of these tweets. Meek on April 26th says when I went independent, hold on to me, let's sit here. Meek says when I went independent, they tried to kill my name. I did a report of my streaming. Like when cyber trucking, 5am and Philly dropping, everything drops 60%. And I'm hearing a label telling people not to play my music or book me because I went indie. This better not be true. They let these companies put campaigns on me over months.
Starting point is 04:23:20 While I got reform uplifting people. I did that because it was real. Not for image or for money. It kind of killed my spirit from being around that stuff. All my shit sold out. They tried me though. Think about it. I ain't had my show, my own show in New York City for years.
Starting point is 04:23:41 And I sold out to Barclays with Flexit in December 2024. And Meek and Friends sold out the garden. I'm selling out Albany, Jersey, Connecticut, Philly. What's going on? Now, it's not just New York and D.C., Boston, Chicago. At L.A., Atlanta, Houston, no opportunities for years. But it's back lit. I'm just studying what's publicly taking place.
Starting point is 04:24:09 It's a silent war taking place towards us. I'm mad as shit. Niggas can't see it. He continues. Now this is I think either earlier today, yeah, or yesterday. I'm not bite my lip because I'm not with gossiping about what another man can do for you because they're rich. I'm a dream chaser. So I don't be listening to you old niggas now.
Starting point is 04:24:39 I would have never made it following this type of attitude and game. When I had to shoot out, I'm on with Dane because I can't, because Jay-Z. Okay, so this is Oskino, so I guess some skinos talking about him. I need beats my album done but this one I make my best songs All my niggis get at me shit serious we buy the earthquake the summer So I see everything I see it I see it now see everything for what it is Letting companies put campaigns on me to do brand damages wild While I'm doing work or reform and raised 50 ms and changing laws
Starting point is 04:25:14 Y'all don't think I've been through enough or y'all want me to get on that Tupac radical shit I'm trying to live in peace But that's what I got to do for my respect And I overpowered that weak shit But I don't think I could be in the rooms And people that know people That's trying to blackball me St starve my family
Starting point is 04:25:34 My family come close to starving They're going to have to silence me Only with death Since I went independent shit been moving so weird I'm still selling out on my shoulders and shit That's why I made Charlemagne That shit with Shawman an issue.
Starting point is 04:25:53 I made $80 million off rap since the Drake beef. He's not all my level of achievements. Wait, Drake? No, he's talking about Sharman. Okay, he bugging because Charming to sign the 200. He's tweaking.
Starting point is 04:26:08 He's tweaking. He's not on my level of achievements. How do it lies about my brain to the masses. That was that worse. And last one, all that meek, you talk too much.
Starting point is 04:26:25 They want all the rappers and athletes to shut the fuck up. Because, check it. Shout out to Meek Mill. Meek Mill is my close personal friend. Me and him, we talked not too long ago on FaceTime. So I'm going to be, I'm going to be a little bit cautious in my approach to kind of breaking down what's going on with Meek Mill. Okay.
Starting point is 04:27:03 Meek, I'm here to tell you. I hate to be the bearer of bad news. but I got to be. There is nobody that is having these secret meetings only trying to suppress you. It doesn't happen. It ain't happen. It won't happen. I want to tell you something that maybe was a secret to you in your team
Starting point is 04:27:31 or maybe a secret to many people in the industry in their teams. When y'all compare the difference between y'all being signed and y'all not being signed, let me just tell y'all this once again half of what you've seen with signed artists is fake it's fluff including you the ego you developed when you were signed you were never that hot they made you that hot they made the perception of you that hot
Starting point is 04:28:00 if you don't believe me why everybody ain't wanting to go independent Kendrick got out of his deal and still did a distro deal with the majors. Drake is suing his label and I got to bet up he's going to stay with the label.
Starting point is 04:28:17 Half of what music is smoking mirrors. Nobody's picking on you meek. The reality is you was never that hot. The labels made you seem that hot and it's not only for you. Once you're in the infrastructure
Starting point is 04:28:32 you're going to start believe in your own hype when the label created the hype. So when you say your shit went down 60% Yes, 60% of what you think you are is all fake. And that's not only for you. I'm saying it for all signed artists.
Starting point is 04:28:49 It's all fake. And it's created by the label to fool the fans. So when you're now on the label, there's nothing more to fool. The 60% goes away. It's not people plotting all you. You just finally figure out where you actually stood. You stood at the 40%. And even that is still pretty good because a lot of people drop 80%.
Starting point is 04:29:09 But for all y'all signed artists, you don't make enough money for Atlantic Warner or anybody to say they need to spend money to repress you for their bottom line to get better. They own your catalog. They own all the best works and the most stream works you have. If anything, they're hoping you could do some other shit that helps promote their old shit. They don't give two fucks like that. Now, some of them might not want to give you the biggest alley. as you go independent, who would? Why spend mad marking dollars on you when you're going to leave?
Starting point is 04:29:46 So they don't give a fuck about you. But are they actively working to try to keep you down? Sorry, don't let me have to use the boozy line on you, but you're not bigger than the program. You're not bigot in the program. Atlantic was down to see Young Boy leave, and Young Boy gave him 22 of them things. 22 albums.
Starting point is 04:30:05 They were down to see him leave. They're okay with Meekville leaving. They were down with Kodak leaving. Yeah, they're not like, oh my God, let's kill these. No. They own y'all catalogs already. But the bigger point is not a meek build point. Meek needs to acknowledge.
Starting point is 04:30:24 Y'all artists were never as hot as you say or you thought you were. When you sold 250,000 records, that was never you. That's not off the muscle. The label did that. That's the label. You have to realize that. DSPs, the label own part of it, billboard, they're incentivized,
Starting point is 04:30:45 they all work together, looming it. They all work together to create this ecosystem, this infrastructure that y'all get judged off. And then when y'all are not, pretty much not in it, y'all don't want to get judged off first week's sales no more. First week sales judge the rest of the industry because the fluff is there.
Starting point is 04:31:00 You don't have the fluff. It's okay. So, you know, I know, I think he's having an independent run good for him, but that independent run will never be a major run. Because I'm telling that, everybody right now with every major label 60% on what you see at the very minimum is fake and what I mean by fake is it's created it's not organic let I want to go back on my fake chip because I want
Starting point is 04:31:24 people saying oh it's just completely fabricated no it's basically baked into the cake of being on a major they move shit around to give the appearance of it but it's fluff is fluff that's paid for is fluff that's incentivized it's fluff that's leveraged and I see me who seems like he wants to just only be independent you'll never get back there
Starting point is 04:31:56 whether I don't care what song you got there's no song you could make to get there the labels have ran the shit longer than you've been alive and I've been alive you think you might go to solve what you think nigga you want to honest what you think you about to do you about to recreate the will
Starting point is 04:32:12 nobody embody recreated will and i say that and i'm not being critical of meek i said even about drake ain't nobody recreating the will this is the music industry and when niggas could recreate the will the music industry rather kills itself ain't nobody recreating the will that's point blank period y'all niggis is in the music business and y'all never change the music business michael jackson died and i had to give up the shit where he had even way more leverage on all you niggas. Y'all will never change the ecosphere and everything that's going on in the music
Starting point is 04:32:45 business. Y'all will come, have your time, have your fun in the sun, get these inflated, whatever you want to say, but at the end of the day, you're never biggin' this motherfucking program. And if you think you ever are, leave and try to do it.
Starting point is 04:33:03 Drake trying to do it from within right now. But, you know, it would be more interesting? If Drake was off university, then you had to do it. There's nobody bigger than the program, not one of y'all. Taylor Swift is the closest at this point, and she's with the program. She's with the program. I'm telling all y'all, y'all not biggin' in the program.
Starting point is 04:33:25 Taylor's the biggest one, and she's still with the program. So y'all get in line, and y'all always you, I understand that. When y' y'all go independent, whatever you think you are now, nobody's hating on you. 80% is disappearing instantly. Bang, you're like, damn, niggies don't fuck with me no more. the illusion is over. The illusion is over. Y'all like the day stream is more than the night.
Starting point is 04:33:53 So I hope people didn't, people realize that wasn't a meat mill rant. That was a, listen, and I'm not here trying to say, oh, Universal or Warner or they're good or whatever, but I hate when people complain about the music industry, like they didn't also have the benefits of it. And I said that even about Drake, right?
Starting point is 04:34:13 Like everything y'all is saying about these music and the companies, They created the numbers. This whole system that Billboard tracks was created by them. How do y'all get mad later on like, yo, this ain't fair no more? Yeah, it's meant for you to play the game. Y'all at some point thought you're beginning the program. You don't play the game no more.
Starting point is 04:34:32 You got to play the game. It's their game. And if y'all think y'all being on the program, go make your own program. Go make your own program. You know how y'all can make your own program? If y'all think you're that lit, get off of DSPs. Get off of reporting to Luminate that billboard is going to get off of them charts.
Starting point is 04:34:52 You know what you do? Go back to doing what niggins claim they did in the South. Sell it out the trunk. Get your website. Put your music on there. Put your songs on there. Bundle it or whatever. And then you show us the amount of money you make in a fucking week.
Starting point is 04:35:07 And it's just like the boozy shit. All right. So show us what's your interview for the make now. Cool. You're big of the program. You're going over there. You're going to do your own interview. You're going to do whatever.
Starting point is 04:35:17 show us how you can make you are you made $80 million after the drake beef show us you make an $8 million off a distro kit which I think you can 100% thing you can but 80 and 8 it's a long different ways chat I'm not saying this to be morbid none of these things could be the industry none not one not one not one
Starting point is 04:35:43 you can't defeat it's the music business is their industry it's not even yours would you think you're some fans will make you feel like, they be getting gas on a fan. Oh, I did a show. Meek knows this. I don't even know why me
Starting point is 04:35:57 can be saying some of this stuff. He's like, yo, he's talking about bookings. Yo, half of these bookings, Live Nation is working with the record label. Live Nation's working with their record label to power this shit, pay for all this promotion
Starting point is 04:36:09 that you could have a good show. You thought you was just that hot, my nigga? Like, go look at everybody's tour. When you go look at their tour flyer, you're going to see Live Nation and you're going to see their record label. Why? If the record label isn't the tour, why is the record label on there?
Starting point is 04:36:26 You know why? They use the tour as promo so the record label will invest into cross-promote. The point is this. All this like Meek is like, oh, the show, the show why people. Because most of that type of stuff is for the record industry. It's the music business, the labels. If you're trying to go around labels, you got to do what they do. So it's nobody, I don't think nobody hate on me, honestly.
Starting point is 04:36:51 The only thing I don't know. ever heard about me, they said he have a shitty attitude. And he's mad arrogant. And he talks down to people. That's what I've heard. I heard that in Atlantic, long time. Never have I heard someone said, let's kill his career.
Starting point is 04:37:11 It's not let's kill his career. Let's make sure nobody like books him. I've heard when niggas stop supporting you. But here's the thing. You're not old support. See, that's the thing where artists like Meek come in. That's entitlement.
Starting point is 04:37:31 You're not owed it. Nobody's hating on you if they stop supporting you. Like if, let's say a media outlet or let's say TMZ, TMZ will hit me up from time and time like, Act, you want to come on here and talk about this? I probably get a boost invisibility, whatever, whatever. If TMZ says, we don't want to act on here ever again. Can I go and be like, yo, nah, man, look what's happening. These niggas is hating on me? No, is there a choice?
Starting point is 04:37:53 Like, we don't. So that's the only thing I've seen with Meek. again, if he had proof, I think you would have posted it. If Meek has proof that nigger has paid money or, like, labels is actually telling people don't book him, Meek is one of the examples of when you leave a label, they literally turn off the valve.
Starting point is 04:38:18 They turn the valve off. We're good. People would be surprised. Like, I know Meek Mill had to have seen, like, an audit of, like, his finances from his record deal. If you realize how much money is spent into an average successful artist in just brand, you know, brand recognition, in brand refreshing, just making sure that people still have this idea when you haven't dropped music for two to three years that this guy's still hot.
Starting point is 04:38:51 Labels spend money on that consistently. An artist just feels like he's the man because he's going out to the club. Like an artist is really fucking stupid if you're asking me. So when they come in, they're like, yo, so what happened? Yeah, all the other things that people are doing for you, like, it stopped. There's a lot that goes on to the music business. So I'm going to disagree here with Meek Mill, but my point isn't about me. My point is about any nigga who think he could go from the majors to, um, independent.
Starting point is 04:39:23 Listen, I love Drake, but shit, I think Drake's going to do like 500, right? If Drake really went independent, I don't think Drake had passed 300, straight up. And that would be like the. Max. Like, Kanye kind of pushes the max at which you would get independent. Kanye will get like 200. Drake, I think we'll get probably like three, maybe three. Like, if it was Iceman, 3.30, straight independent.
Starting point is 04:39:53 Brother, the reality is a label matters. This is why everybody's on the label. We ain't even talking about no niggies, not on the label. Y'all can't name one nigga that's not all that we talk about that's not on the label. Kendrick is not independent. Kendrick has a deal with Pete. He signed a deal with PG-Lang, well, PG-D-Lang is his. He signed a deal with Interscope.
Starting point is 04:40:19 Kendrick Lamar is a Interscope artist. He's considered an Interscope artist. What are you talking about? That's what I'm saying. Even when they say they go independent, all that means usually is they go independent to do the bigger deal that's directly with the distributor. So they don't do a full deal,
Starting point is 04:40:35 but they do a distribution deal with a bunch of, like, you know, services. And those services are exactly what you need to get the fluff. It's a fluff. Major label, fluff. I'm calling it fluff, but there's a lot of things to it. I'm going to say fluff. And I don't mean fake.
Starting point is 04:40:55 It's just mean that if you're not in the league, no one's going to see it. Okay, I think I've driven that point home. Pretty good. Chat, we had five hours? I think I started by the time I started this morning, it was early. Now I'm into lunch period.
Starting point is 04:41:16 Anybody at lunch right now? Anybody on lunch? Who's on lunch? What's y'all eating, chat? YB's not independent either. There's nobody independent, bro. Bowl of fruits? Okay, being healthy.
Starting point is 04:41:36 Chipotle? Stew up soup, eh? Wheat is your lunch? Don't we make you hungry? Spaghetti, okay, okay, okay. A wawa smoothie. Okay, you guys keep it pretty healthy here. I do, listen, you know, I don't want to make it where I could even be seen as attacking me.
Starting point is 04:41:58 Because I do think Meek is, I think Meek is, he's progressing, though. Like, after I see Meek finally figured out LinkedIn, once I see Meek finally figure out LinkedIn, I was like, oh, okay. By the way, Vlad hit me back. Vlad said, long story, we'll tell you later. I see Vlad talking about Claude, which is AI bot. Said, Claude is helping me organize my whole music career and other business in days and is moving my business forward at a high rate.
Starting point is 04:42:46 Some tech young bull I met on LinkedIn gave me a, an incredible template. Who else can help me with Claude. This is the only the thing I've always been confused with Meek. And by the way, salute to that young tech entrepreneur or that, quote, quote, tech young bull that Meeke is mentioning.
Starting point is 04:43:03 But how come Meek 8 never tell us nothing he learned from Michael Rubin, Jay-Z, and Robert Kraft? Like, do they just have him around for, like, jester maxing? Like, just a bunch of clown shit and bunny hopping? Like, I've never heard him be like, oh, these guys taught me like this really dope thing.
Starting point is 04:43:20 It feels like me hanging around the billionaires, learn nothing from them, is probably the broke people that could teach him some shit. It's kind of odd. Like, I don't know. Like, what the fuck is Jay-Z taught him? And here's his LinkedIn page. Which, I'm just glad he has LinkedIn.
Starting point is 04:43:35 LinkedIn's actually, is one of the most popping social media on platforms. If you don't know. It's actually looks like a pretty good LinkedIn page. I'll be on LinkedIn sometime because I don't know what happened. We basically, okay, of course, This is meek typing. We basically in a deep matrix
Starting point is 04:43:52 trap between Instagram X TikTok snap. We have millions of fans. We can't even get real data from them. Where's the bots? I ain't going to lie, though. Yo, Meek is, meek done turned into like a, you know like a flat earther?
Starting point is 04:44:10 Except he's a flat earther for bots. Like, every time I see Meek talk about some shit, he's talking about bots. He's talking about, and you know what it is? Ever since Kendrick and Drake and they got into it and bots became like this big topic,
Starting point is 04:44:23 Meek start realizing I was on to something Now I'm gonna give Meek to credit Meek Meek and his team told me Back in 2015 When they were beefing with Drake And and and they told me
Starting point is 04:44:38 They were like yo They're like y'all look at my comments section And there's all ELs It was like yo ain't no real street nigga We would just log on Instagram And go in a nigga comments Just to put ELs Drake got all type of bots
Starting point is 04:44:52 doing it. And I was like, but he did tell me that. He told me that. It's like, Meek been on to the bots. He said bots from back then. So at least according to him, he would say like Drake dispatched the bots to spam like his shit and say else.
Starting point is 04:45:16 So now when he's seen bots come back with this Kendrick shit, he was like, fuck, I knew it. I was just 10 years too early. So that's why Meek right now is like Meek's Saddam. It's like he's in another dimension with his shit. Ah.
Starting point is 04:45:37 Okay. All right. All right. Hey, listen, man, I'm supporting it. As long as meek is posting his LinkedIn page,
Starting point is 04:45:46 not a link to a vibrating panties. Amazon link, I'm good. Y'all, y'all remember when he said it? Yeah. Y'all remember when,
Starting point is 04:45:56 you said, remember when, oh, he's just up there. Nah, that's crazy. He ain't deleted yet. I need vibrating panties with the remote.
Starting point is 04:46:10 L-O-O-D on Amazon? Yo, Yo, meek is getting better, bro. Yo, listen, if you think meek not making no progress, he went from this being the smartest tweet to at least having the LinkedIn page, bro. He's doing better. He's doing better.
Starting point is 04:46:30 He's doing better, bro. He's doing better. He's doing better, bro. He's doing better. candies with a remote. Yo, this is his page. I can't, but look, look, look. Look, like, because I don't think I'm lying.
Starting point is 04:46:44 Look, look, look, look, look. 10 million followers is this shit. Look, he made 28, 2021. He ain't deleted nothing, bro. He just leaving it up there, bro. Yeah. Then he had another one where he was looking for like, Dildos.
Starting point is 04:46:58 You remember that one? You might delete that one. It said, oh, it was right after this. I think he did delete it. I need vibrating panties with the remote. L-O-O-D-O-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-N? Then the next tweet was, how do you unlink your Twitter
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Starting point is 04:47:47 Oh, man. Nah. Yo, I'm telling y'all, Meek is doing better, bro. Meek is doing better than I, bro. We got his LinkedIn page. We got his LinkedIn page. That's good.
Starting point is 04:48:00 That's good. Yo, I'm telling you, Meek, like, Meek is only, like, he one of the only rappers. I see him progressing. I see him progressing. I see him progressing. I see him progressing. I can't have a lot of you.
Starting point is 04:48:12 I see him progressing. I see Meek progressing. But I do want to say to him, I don't think no one specifically, like labels was like, don't book him. I think most of y'all artists, y'all get off a major labeling, and y'all realize it is not sweet.
Starting point is 04:48:31 It is not sweet, man. It is not sweet. All right. Let me listen to the end of this Jay-Z interview. Look how we're just straight off topic just because of this. And it actually told the story of you. That's why hip hop became so big. Because everyone wanted to feel those feelings.
Starting point is 04:48:52 I tell people all the time, never fight against the future. Future's coming. Artists, they were trying to recreate. something that was already done. But they're not connected to it like that. They're not living it and breathing it. They were fighting against gravity as opposed to telling their story.
Starting point is 04:49:11 We needed that other side. We needed to hear about what happens when you've had four successful albums. What happens? What is that feeling like? How do you make the next one? How did you get in the studio? How are your kids?
Starting point is 04:49:25 How do you interact with them? There's this hip-hop dad. But if you're trying to make young music and you're not young, it's going to be inauthentic. And people could feel that. You can smell it. So the best thing that anyone can do, like going through music is to tell a story. And just keep creating from that space. I love what the clips are doing right now and how it's authentic to them.
Starting point is 04:49:53 And they tell them the story about their mom and dad who just passed away and how deep that is. with John Legend singing on the chorus and like, you know, everything that they've been through is an authentic display, a piece of classic material that it could have came out 96 or come out 2026. It still feels the same because it's real and it's authentic to who they are. Two years ago it was like fighting with where I was currently. Excess hasn't changed. my approach to making music. I've always felt like my aspirations were ahead of where I was currently. Even with all the success, I'm still like,
Starting point is 04:50:40 no, no, no, no, this is where we belong. This is our place. I'm just two years ago, it was like fighting with the NFL to put Dr. Dre on them. It's not fighting, but, like, convincing. It's like, y'all 30 years too late. Like, this is supposed to have been happening. That emotion was,
Starting point is 04:50:58 From the first album to now. That fight to say, we're here. This is what we're about. And we're going to get there. And this is what we deserve. Like I said, those are the ingredients that go in the song. Whether it be about a big yacht or the Lexis, bragging about money, those are just props.
Starting point is 04:51:19 That's not the engine. That's not the emotion that my music is running on. But once you get into the interior of the song, what you're hearing is the same thing. You're going to hear from, you know, someone who has integrity, morality, questions about religion, questions about who you are as a man, relationships, your legacy, your children, the fears that they're going to have, you know, whatever karmic debt that you put out there and how, you know, that's going to affect your family.
Starting point is 04:51:51 Those are the real themes. My locations have changed. but who I am as a person And what I believe in None of that's changed Things I believe to be true Maybe All right man
Starting point is 04:52:05 Okay Jigga All right so you know They got that list out That list out I do want to You know a little bit of a Intermission plug here Chat
Starting point is 04:52:19 We do have my birthday show Tickets on sale I need all you guys in a building If you could make yourself or make your way to New York City, May 15th. It's the day that Drake is dropping. We're doing the listening party the night before, but we're going to be celebrating in person together.
Starting point is 04:52:35 Shit, we might even have some surprises for you. May 15th, Friday, you guys can find tickets on ticket masters. Also, we did drop some new merch, the academy. That shop. I've been writing some personal notes to anyone who copped at least five items or more. and thank you guys for all the support for our Sprint collection. The Sprint collection is out now. The academy.com.
Starting point is 04:53:01 You guys could cop anything on there. And I think some of these things are going pretty quick. But we did have some stuff for the ladies and, you know, do what you want. Get whatever you want on there. Right. Cool. All right. What else is going on, man?
Starting point is 04:53:15 We're actually approaching six hours. So it's kind of like a full stream. But I know y'all am to stream later too. so I'm going to try to make sure I still keep some stuff for later. Dame Dash, I did that already. Okay. Let me see. Let me see.
Starting point is 04:53:36 What else is going on? Oh, by the way, did you hear Cameron? Nah, you got to hear a camera. See, Cameron, like, I don't know why people only pick on me when they're like, oh, why is act like in a woman business or whatever they say. Like, they act like I'm the only person that's kicking a, And nigga, we kick in the same reality. Cameron said the same thing about Mega Stallion, bro.
Starting point is 04:53:59 Say the fucking same thing. Look, where's Killer at? Kill up. Where's Killer? I'm going to show you out what Killer Cam said about Meg. Where is it at? Where is it? Is it this?
Starting point is 04:54:20 No, no. Here we go. Beck, does she get with Clay Thompson? I'm just saying, I'm not saying Meg is right or wrong or anything else. I take it past this. One of the best, and I'm not even. even putting Megan Stangin in the same category. I'm telling you there's somewhere totally different.
Starting point is 04:54:37 There's no disrespect to Megga. I'm just saying, Holly Berry. I don't know if you know how, like, I know you know who Holly Berry is, but I don't know how, if you know how high she was regarded as the best, baddest bitch of the 90s. Like, top of the line,
Starting point is 04:54:55 when niggas like, oh, Holly Berry, every rapper and by Holly Berry, Holly Berry, Holly, every nigga left for. Every nigger, as bad as she is, every nigga, like, no, I'm out. Nah, man. You can have her. You can keep her.
Starting point is 04:55:14 Because I don't care how bad you is, and this has nothing to do with Megan Nostallion, this has nothing to do with Holly Berry. As bad as a female is, there's some niggas somewhere saying, you can keep that bitch. Straight up. I know it. Straight up, man. I know her.
Starting point is 04:55:32 I don't care who you are. If they're not married with kids and everything else, and they super duper bad and some two, three, four niggas like, go ahead. Y'all think what y'all want to think. My pleasure. That's just that. Holly, Barry and Dave Justice, that's a baseball player.
Starting point is 04:55:52 Everybody gets out of there or Holly Berry. Everybody. I don't know what she'd do. I have no background or nothing. I just know nobody saves. Take that information What you will Go ahead, y'all
Starting point is 04:56:06 This is what party said You should never want to be with a man If he can't be a man And do the things you like Like I can't What? I'm telling you He can't love you
Starting point is 04:56:22 Like I love you That sounds so toxic Like that's just like I will say this And I don't know what type of niggins Clay Thompson be with him be around or anything else. I got to start from the beginning. Here we go.
Starting point is 04:56:36 Here we go. Now, can't. Now the question, I know you're not done with your take because I don't want to cut you off. When you read the list and he's saying no, like if everybody's list, all right, here we go, here we go. Day, I don't know what show I. With it, that's what you're asking. To me, settle down means we're going to choose each other.
Starting point is 04:56:53 I got played from the beginning because Mace had some, Mays had a little sermon for her. What would she expect it? No, for real. What was she expecting? She did with Clay Thompson. What was supposed to happen? You tell me from Black Girl Magic, what was supposed to happen? What was the expectation?
Starting point is 04:57:11 Yeah. From what I've seen, I thought they were going to get married. Why? That's what it looked like from what I've seen, from the outside looking in. What make you say they was going to get married? I mean, Clay's at that point in his life where it looks like he's ready to settle down. You know, he's with the Mavs, not playing as good as he was, the public post. he never post public relationships from what I've seen.
Starting point is 04:57:35 I haven't, I mean, I've seen posts from her previous relationships, but they were very, then like the Thanksgiving, like a lot of things. Yes. All right. Does, and not, not towards Megan, but just the questioner. Does settle down mean settle? No. So what does settled down have to do with it?
Starting point is 04:57:57 Settle down means, what does it have to do with it? That's what you're asking. me settled down means we're going to choose each other and stop talking to other people that's what i would think oh okay i want to hear what cam got to say about this because this whole idea with with megan and stallion i think i think her her reputation precedes her and because her reputation precedes her when things go a certain way you don't get the you don't get the um the good the good fortune of it kill them i told me It's just another day.
Starting point is 04:58:36 I don't know what show I said. Yo, get my fucking pool in the back, man. Shot to kill her, man. Stop making your relationships public. Stop doing it, bro. Megan the Stallion started with... And before I said something about Megan the Stein, people got mad, but it's public.
Starting point is 04:58:56 It started with Money Bagel, right? Then, Tori Lanes. I'm looking at Alicia. And then, rapper Party Fontaine's. You know party for aintang stat? Yes. See, I don't know parties. He's a songwriter.
Starting point is 04:59:12 He's a songwriter. Oh, party. Then you got, I don't know, Romeo Lemieux. Well, I'm saying his name on you with a soccer player. And Torrey Craig from the Chicago Bulls. Clay Thompson. Look. Yo, Killer, man.
Starting point is 04:59:29 That's why I love Killer, man. Give it up. Yo, Killer. Yo, Killer, one of the gold media person. Like, he's giving it. it up straight up fuck all that other shit look just look at his face like like you like you and he was supposed to marry oh y'all love mace too he was supposed to marry ha ha ha ha ha ha ha he's supposed to marry that no he wasn't supposed to marry that no he wasn't
Starting point is 05:00:03 supposed to marry a yes the list no sign in sheet man get your shit off and be out y'all Yo, y'all remember like, at least back in college, yo, you go to class, you sign in and dip. You ain't staying for the whole class? No, because I said why he crack his neck like that. But that's, bro, no, Masted, but now the question, I know you're not done with your take because I don't want to cut you off. When you read the list and he's saying, no, like,
Starting point is 05:00:34 if everybody's list was plastered, what do you mean? Like, no, that list goes like this. That list goes like this. Can I think it's what I have to say the long step is crazy. You were talking. You're right. Yeah. The whole thing about it is this, right?
Starting point is 05:00:52 You're saying that what if everybody's list is plastered? That's the thing. Everybody's list is not plastered. So when you push up information public and... Street meat, trying to rebrand as filet mignon. Straight up. People have opinion of what's going on because it's public. You can't get mad at people.
Starting point is 05:01:12 people being opinionated because you have a public relationship. I just said this. I said, I'm not sure if y'all wasn't here or where I said it. I said I would never do enough public relationship because they always go with the girl, whether you're right or wrong or indifferent or anything else. Matter of fact, Mace was on, because Mace said, I forget who he's talking about,
Starting point is 05:01:33 but we're like, yeah, if so was so cheap, they'd be like the girl, if a girl cheat on a guy, another girl would be like, well, when he do to make her do that? He may not have did nothing. He may not have did nothing. So when you sit to him be like, oh, this is plastic? Is it out for nobody sitting around digging, looking for party quarantine, and the soccer player
Starting point is 05:02:00 and the Chicago Bulls dude and everybody else? And I'm just saying, I'm not saying Meg is right or wrong or anything else. I take it past this. one of the best, and I'm not even putting Megan Stuyang in the same category. I'm telling you, there's somewhere totally different. There's no disrespect to Megga. I'm just saying. Holly Berry, I don't know if you know how, like, I know you know who Holly Berry is,
Starting point is 05:02:26 but I don't know how, if you know how high she was regarded as the best, baddest bitch of the 90s, like, top of the line when niggas, like, oh, Holly Berry, every rapper. and by Holly Berry, Holly Berry, Holly, Harry, every nigga left her. Every nigga, as bad as she is, every nigga, like, no, I'm out. Nah, man.
Starting point is 05:02:51 You can have her. You can keep her. Because I don't care how bad you is, and this has nothing to do with Megan Nostalian, this has nothing to do with Holly Berry. As bad as a female is, as some niggas somewhere saying, you can keep that bitch.
Starting point is 05:03:07 I know I know I don't care who you if they don't marry with kids and everything else and they make super duper bad and some two, three, four niggas
Starting point is 05:03:23 like, go ahead. Y'all think what y'all want to think. My pleasure. That's just that. Holly, Barry and Dave Justice, that's a baseball player. Everybody gets out of there or Hollyberry.
Starting point is 05:03:35 Everybody. I don't know what she'd do. I have no background and nothing. I just know nobody saves. Take that information with you. Go ahead, Joe. This is what party said. You should never want to be with a man if he can't be a man and do the things you like. Like I can't. What? I'm telling you he can't love you like I love you. That sounds so toxic. Like, that's just like, okay.
Starting point is 05:04:11 Is that a song or quote? It's a song. Oh, I'm like, okay. There's no way he said that. No, but he said it. He told her. He definitely trod her. Shout out of party.
Starting point is 05:04:27 I guess. Party is from New York, killer. I don't know. I don't know everybody for me. I'm out to look with music. but I'll say this too and I'm not blaming I'm not blaming Megan for this
Starting point is 05:04:41 neither I'm not like I said I have no problem with Megan anything I just think her next relationship don't need to be plebid but I will say this and I don't know what type of niggas Clay Thompson be would have been around or anything else I don't know
Starting point is 05:04:55 his crew his family like I know who his poverty is and all that but I'm talking about the niggas he'd be around I know you got a brother etc but some niggins would be like yo it ain't even nor right since this man shooting them percentage off work going to state they want to give you that chicken
Starting point is 05:05:13 you're not winning might want to revisit this whole situation because Megan put that in a statement too when under shit that she said she says some shit you move up and down basketball swings the up and down moody horrible during basketball during basketball season does she say that yeah yeah and he probably was talking about her But that's the point. Move swings, not playing well, et cetera. She's dealing with it. I'm just saying, sometimes, nigga, be like,
Starting point is 05:05:45 and I'm not saying Clay said this right or wrong. I'm just saying, my niggins going to tell me, you know, okay. We was up before that. Yo, he's saying everything I said. Yo, some girls, bro, I'm going to be honest with you, man. Man, some girls you get with everything wrong in life happen, nigga. Nigel, you go 10 miles over the speed limit, nigga.
Starting point is 05:06:06 Like you get pulled over, nigga You get pulled over The cop tell you to step out the vehicle You forgot your man left Whedon over there You go to jail She always with you Like she getting the argument Over some bullshit
Starting point is 05:06:19 You at the restaurant Now you over here fighting Like bro, it's just You start realizing this one bitch It's just done And again you can't really blame her Because I'm gonna cap with you I'm gonna try to be mad vague like
Starting point is 05:06:31 Like A nigga hit me For advice on a chick that I used to deal with but he knew I went through hell and when I was giving them advice he's like bro how you dealt with this I'm like I don't usually even have them
Starting point is 05:06:45 conversation with men but like he nigga apologizes whatever whatever you know I told him I said bro I'm gonna keep it of being with you what I learned in my whole time dealing with Shorty everything was my fault because I'm the man she's a chick bro she's a chick like you can't expect none of the woman bro you allowing her to ruin your life
Starting point is 05:07:03 like no matter what she does Like, I think while you're in it, you're like, oh, man, you got to take responsibility, nigga. You got with, you got with Megastalian, my nigga, you got to leave. Straight up. You got a leave. So, you know what I mean? Like, I do know some girls that when they're with you, they might look good. Maybe the sex fire or some shit like that, but nothing good happens to your life, man.
Starting point is 05:07:26 Nothing good. All your opportunities dry up. The first sign of that is when other people that used to hang with you don't want to be around you anymore. So now you only could kick it with this chick She turned it into like she her only friend That's the first sign If you want to know if you met a mega style You know one of these type of chicks
Starting point is 05:07:45 First sign Your regular friends don't want to hang with you When you're with her And she always want to be with you So how that's going to work First sign Trust me Yo, Kelly
Starting point is 05:07:57 We was up before this Yeah, yeah, we was wondering I'm just telling you, my nigga. Now shit ain't looking right. I'm just telling them, my niggas would definitely tell me, because if you, my nigger, I'm going to tell you. What you want to win? You want to win or you want to be in love?
Starting point is 05:08:18 Here's the thing, though. I'm going to be honest, your nigger going to tell you, but your nigger ain't going to force you because you know you can't force you. Because when a nigga is in love, that nigger can't think straight, straight up. You know, now, do I think Clay was in love? I don't even think Clay was in love. in love like that. I'm keep it a bean. I think Clay was fucking with it. But I think Clay was just trying
Starting point is 05:08:42 to make it work. They didn't even last that long. They last like eight months. Yeah, I don't think he was in love like that. I think she may have started, you know, like clearly she was doing shit to get married because she literally said, I start staying home. I'm playing house. When anytime that's, I've never heard a man say he's playing house with a woman. You know, when women say they're playing house, they're basically saying I'm not doing because women only want to do traditional shit for the guy who they expect to put a ring on it, put a baby in here, or do some more commitment type of stuff. Like if a nigga, if a nigga, say a nigga got a moving with a girl because or whatever,
Starting point is 05:09:21 it could be financial reasons. He's not going to describe it as, oh, I'm playing house. You know? But women look at playing house as, oh, I'm being a housewife and this niggis not coming either with the chicken, the ring, or giving me the baby, the family. So you could tell she was only doing all that, you know, TikTok shrimp cooking for hoping to nudge him into, yo, I need a ring, you know?
Starting point is 05:09:51 You want to be in love? I dig it. That's what friends are for us that. That is what friends are for. But in this situation, things are already going kind of. Women going tell, then why does she get with them? because she was in love. So then don't start this. No,
Starting point is 05:10:10 but that was probably like in the timeline, we already seen things kind of going. She was holding him down. It seemed like she wasn't holding him down. Yo, that's another thing. Yeah, how is she holding him down? If anything,
Starting point is 05:10:25 she was holding back, she wasn't holding him down. How is she holding him down? Woman won't credit for just simple things. Oh, you're being a girlfriend. So that's holding, well, how does it hold him down? I mean, pardon me.
Starting point is 05:10:44 But Stavis trying to say this, she got with him when his career was declining. But no, that's when we found out about them. We don't know when she got with him. Yeah. We found out when he got the Dallas and all that, that they were an idol. I'm not saying it was before after, but when we find out, that doesn't mean that that's when the. necessarily started. That's just when the public...
Starting point is 05:11:10 And kill her no about this. Killer used to be with some fat butt girl. Whatever happened to her? Killer Cam ex-girlfriend. I ain't going to look too much into it. You know, I kill him my nigga. Juju. What happened with Juju? I don't even want to go down that rabbit hole, but is Juju? That's her name? Shout to Kill her, man. Shout to kill him. Shout to my nigga, brother. Adam 22 beefing with Money, man. Let's see what's going on.
Starting point is 05:11:54 How does beef start? Adam 22 money man. What's going on with this? Okay. And be convinced and take a picture with it. These rappers will take 50K out of the bank and take a picture with it
Starting point is 05:12:27 or pose with it or whatever and be convinced that they're doing better than somebody who's blatantly doing dramatically better than them. And I say this as a person. who refuses to take part in these shenanigans. I do not go to the bank and withdraw money to flex on people. I say that standing in my many, many million dollar office building that I bought with my own hard-earned money.
Starting point is 05:12:56 So, you know, to anybody who's actually fooled by that, who actually like see somebody withdraw money and flex with it on the gram, and they think that that means that those people actually got money, I mean, hey, if that impresses you, I think you're the target audience for that kind of content. As far as for me, I mean, the proof is in the pudding. I just don't, I don't put myself out there like that. I'm never going to go withdraw all the money I got.
Starting point is 05:13:21 I'm never going to go withdraw all the money I got in the bank. I'm never going to post screenshots of what my bank account looks like. Just trust. If I did, I can make a lot of these rappers look stupid. Let's beef face. Who is this guy? What's the backstory on their beef? What is the backstory on this beef?
Starting point is 05:13:53 You two shut your broke ass up. You're your broke ass up. Adam 22. Look, this shit. Play money. You two shut your broke ass up. Hmm. How did this start?
Starting point is 05:14:25 I'm hearing it start in some comments, Adam 22. Let's see. Oh, it started on those jumpers' him? Yeah, I told you, man, Adam and Vlad been going crazy. Yo, rappers these days been trying to be streamers. Like, you know, it's kind of looking like rappers are. falling off so you got adam and Vlad now popping it on these niggas
Starting point is 05:15:00 okay I'm trying to trying to get it let's see oh so money man challenged Adam the post 50,000 no he says fuck your interview unless you pay me for 50,000 and then he responds all the money I'm gonna have to call Adam what the fuck is going on
Starting point is 05:15:35 let's go to the story see how these rappers will take 50k out That I'm never going to go. So Moneyman has a reputation for being one of the biggest cap artists in the music industry. Basically, everything he puts out is massively botted and inflated. He's nowhere near as popular as he acts like he is. So I decided to check out and see how his latest project is doing.
Starting point is 05:16:03 It's right here. It's been out for about two weeks. I tallied up all of the plays equals about 750K on Spotify. So we double that since Apple. Music is a thing. Lends you on about 1.5 million streams after two weeks. Okay, okay, okay. All right, right.
Starting point is 05:16:23 Actually, let me start again. So now I figure out what the fuck is going on. Okay, now I figure out what's going on. Thank you, y'all. So apparently on Say Cheese, Moneyman actually made a comment that was posted. And on this comment, it basically said, let me pull it up, money man was given his comments or given his opinion on boozy and vlad and according to money man he said Vlad is supposed to pay boozy off GP brought was down sometimes it's bigger than the platform or no it's
Starting point is 05:16:55 bigger than the profit Vlad going to make it other ways um then somebody says black people logic no profit just run a business that makes no profit uh money man says got to pay for promo gang NBA pay a naga Sometimes just because he there at the time, it is what it is. Then somebody says, nobody bringing out how much money Vlad's making off TikTok, Facebook. When Boosey died, Vlad will doubles money also. There is a bunch of Boosie haters that will agree with whoever is against him. Moneyman says, yeah, the money keep coming forever on them clips for show.
Starting point is 05:17:30 He could sell him for $510. Okay, so let me give my opinion on this. First of all, I do agree with Moneyman, right? I told you that's how I run business. Like, I don't go off strictly numbers. If I went off strictly numbers, I would fire so many people. Because I've paid niggins for months, a lot of months, that literally they didn't do no work. But it's like, you know, when you deal with a job that sometimes is seasonal and, you know, I almost, I guess I imposed it on myself.
Starting point is 05:17:56 I tell every employee, I don't think I hire a single employee that work 40 hours per week. Not one. Not one employee that I pay. And they get full-time paychecks. Now here's the thing. With not work in that amount, the moments I do need you, because a lot of times I don't have, oh shit, I get something for tomorrow or tomorrow or two days from now,
Starting point is 05:18:20 I got to move to, I got to go to Florida, I got to go do this, I got to go do that, and I need these people. That's the tax being available. So really, a lot of how I look at it is I'm paying you to be available more than I'm paying you for the work you're doing. because if I look at it like if I'm paying for the work you're doing, you don't deserve it. If I look at it as availability, that makes more sense, but also the availability is also an investment.
Starting point is 05:18:50 It's like owning a building that you may use all the time versus not use that much on a particular month. You're not going to cancel your lease. It's an investment for the times you do need it. And I look at that, especially with people. It's hard to find good people and you can't treat people at disposal. So that's how I look at it. Vlad does not, and that's the only reason you might be like, how do you agree with money, man, but not, but not Boosie.
Starting point is 05:19:14 Because not everybody does business. I would have gave Boosie the 5,000. That's my fucking problem. I would have gave Boosey the problem. If I was paying him 25 and he asked for the extra $5,000 to give him the $5,000, Vlad don't move like that. I've been telling you all the niggis are the longest. You have Vlad in your house every fucking month.
Starting point is 05:19:32 You know the guy. Don't, again, if you want to do business with people, that value these intangibles that might say, you know what, I'm going to take the laws just to, you know, maybe Bousie going through some, maybe he got to pay for some extra lawyers. Maybe he needs this extra five. All right, cool, like, you know,
Starting point is 05:19:47 just give him the money and try to see if you could make it up in other ways. That's, I'll probably do that. But you're dealing with Vlad. Vlad is literally telling you he's a calculator's guy. That's why I've been calling the run of numbers guy. He's, Vlad is a nigger. If he give you, if he give you a dollar to go to store and the thing costs 98 cents, if you don't bring back them two cents
Starting point is 05:20:07 he probably thought you robbed them, bro. Like, you know, this thing you stole from me, man. So you got to know who you're dealing with. Boosey damn well know who he's fucking dealing with. You're dealing with Vlad. Vlad is not going to give you some money on, like this idea on GP. Yeah, that's worse with niggas.
Starting point is 05:20:22 On GP. Yeah, all right. Yeah, I only work with niggas. Vlad is a dollars and cents type of guy. If it's 547, like put it like this. How many times that, like, somebody would be like, Yo, it's, yo, it came up to $160.
Starting point is 05:20:38 I just give him $200. I'm just making an example. Give him $200. You don't even access to change back. And they kind of expect you not to actually change back. Vlad is going to be like, where's my fucking $43 at? Where is it? He's that type of nigger, bro.
Starting point is 05:20:54 That's what it is. So if you're working with Vlad, I don't know why y'all trying to change Vlad into something he's not. What I said about Vlad is he's fair. What's owed to you, he's going to give to you. But he's not going to just pay you because GP. or you're his man. He's a dollars and cents type of guy,
Starting point is 05:21:12 which this is how everybody should take that. If you on Vlad's platform, you should charge him dollars and cents. You should, like, pull like this. Now, I don't care to get paid. Like, bro, like, I like how me and Vlad do our thing because I'm not in that ecosystem. But you know what that would have told me?
Starting point is 05:21:31 All right. So now me and, like, whoever is working with Vlad, Vlad is telling you, I'm a dollars and cents guy, Not a, that's my man's guy. Make sure y'all have paid every single time for what you did last. You just did a banging interview with them. Make sure the next time he pay you, it accurately portrays that. Other than that, shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 05:21:53 Because this is not a GP type of guy. He's not going to pay you because you as man's like he fuck with you. That's not him. So just get over it. I guarantee if you do with black people, and I'm not, this isn't a black white thing. It's just most of us black people We just do business a little bit different
Starting point is 05:22:09 Let's put it like this I give an example Yo, my first show ever Which was supposed to be a grammar So he got canceled I had Charleston White on a joint Bro, I gave Charleston White deposit It was like 6,000, I've never asked for it back
Starting point is 05:22:25 It's one of those like Yo, you know what? I'm gonna say like Yo, whenever we're gonna do some shit The shit gonna make sense I don't know that like Hey could you refund me my money Did I refund the deposit you sent me?
Starting point is 05:22:37 No! That's how I look at it because that relationship, I know we're going to work much more in the future And later in the future, be like, all right, oh, good looks for doing this to me. Yeah, remember when I give it, I, yeah, it's going to work out. Like, it works out. That's how I look at it. Some niggas don't do business like that.
Starting point is 05:22:53 Hey, you get your money when you get the invoice. Oh, we didn't do the show because you return that money. We're sending a request for that money back. Not just hold on to it. So again, people do business differently, but you know the type of nigga you're dealing with. you're gonna know the type of Nick you're doing. Vlad ain't never show nobody
Starting point is 05:23:10 that he's getting, hitting niggas with the bread off GP. Like, I could see Sean Cotton doing that. And I've seen Sean talk about this. I don't even know what he fully said. But I don't think Vlad is wrong either because Vlad ain't never tell none of you,
Starting point is 05:23:24 niggas, that he's giving your bread off GP. He's telling you, I'm doing math. That's it. He's not doing friendships. He's doing math. That's it. Okay? All right.
Starting point is 05:23:40 Oh, I was trying to see what Sean Cotton said, by it. Because Sean Conner says, He's never on quick money. Here we go. The numbers are inflated. Everybody knows what everybody's making. Everybody's true net worth, true worth. It's everybody filling themselves and watching everybody else.
Starting point is 05:24:02 Somebody says, if you ask somebody to come do some, it's not GP. You don't get what I'm saying. You're paying somebody 25,000. You never know what's going on. on with them. They want an extra $5,000. There's some people that are going to say, well, if the math makes sense to pay you extra $5,000, I will. There's other niggas that say, yo, bro, I don't really think I could do that. And the person might be like, yo, bro, I need this extra five, bro.
Starting point is 05:24:26 Yo, if we're going to do, if we're going to do, you know, I need the extra five. You might just say just off the fact that I fuck with you and I want to keep this relationship alive, take the five, bro. I'll figure out a way to, to get that five in other ways. So that's the GP, right? Yo, it's general principle. You got it. Just take that. What I'm saying is that Vlad don't give a fuck what you got going on, nigga.
Starting point is 05:24:52 If the calculator say, don't give him, he don't give a fuck. And there's nothing wrong with him saying no. It's just that a lot of people, they do business thinking they're going to work with somebody like, and by the way, I think what Vlad does is better than what I do. I think in business, that's better. The only thing I think he would lack is that when I go to niggas and the way, how I treat them, I could have two, three young boy interviews in the tuck. I could have a cardie interview in the tug.
Starting point is 05:25:22 These people want to just talk to me and we're not talking about money. I'm at Young Boy's show streaming every night. Aidan Ross come there. They want him to pay 100 grand. You see, when people think you're a dollar and cents guy, they, it's, you know, so me, while I might take the loss in a couple times because I ain't go I ain't gonna chip eye bro you just want to
Starting point is 05:25:44 fuck it Dave realized what type of guy I am I ain't gonna nickel and dime him I'm not a nickel and dime her and I'm not saying Vlad's a nickel and dimer but Vlad is by the book he's by the financial books yo brother this doesn't make sense financially
Starting point is 05:25:57 da da da da da da da da da you know what I would do if I was Vlad put it like this this idea of profit per yo you've done like 30 boozy interviews if Boosie was really that gunhole about this extra five I would have gave him the five And even if I ain't make none
Starting point is 05:26:15 You even find make none I would look at the numbers there And I would come back to him next time Be like yo bro you know last time I made none And I kind of gave you extra bro like This is where you gotta be cool with niggas Like yo like Bro like we can't really do that again bro like
Starting point is 05:26:29 That cool You never know you might be fucked up I'm not saying Bousie fucked up But like you like I deal with niggins not by like If somebody Is somebody about doing the with me and I'm about to give you a deal. I'm about to give you a job, whatever. I'm not crunching a bunch of numbers. I'm going to give you a number like we could talk.
Starting point is 05:26:47 I'm going to give you a number. It's my job to figure out how it's going to work. Now, granted, that might not be the most, but I like dealing with people, right? Because I value someone's word. I value someone realizing that us getting money is probably the end of, it's the last byproduct to the relationship. Right? Like, if I was all about dollars and cents, you'd think I couldn't drop a young boy interview to get me a quick 50 bands, 80 bands real quick?
Starting point is 05:27:18 Like, if I was popped, then be like, yo, man, fuck what young boy was saying. Drop this shit. But that's what I'm trying to say. I don't look at that as, bro. I flew out a cameraman. I flew out this person. I paid for this.
Starting point is 05:27:33 Like, nigger, I'm down 10,000. I don't look at it like that. You're not going to get it. me to rationalize it like yeah I'm down 10,000 like how am I going to get my 10,000 back to even be even? Nah, brother like, yo, in this game, there's a lot of money floating, but there's nothing that's worth more than a relationship to me. Nothing.
Starting point is 05:27:52 Nothing. Ain't nothing worth more than a relationship. 10,000, 20,000, 100,000. Ain't worth more than a fucking relationship to me. And everybody, I know people that I work with, it bleeds through. They're like, man, shit, we know act ain't, he ain't thirsty for a fucking content, man. Like he won't come around here. He fuck with us.
Starting point is 05:28:08 We trust him more. Matter of fact, when we, anything with us and him, shit, we're going to give him first or he never know, you know. But that's how I look at it. That's my long-term investment. That's my long-term investment. I invest in a relationship. I don't invest in an interview.
Starting point is 05:28:24 Because I've always told you, I don't like, I don't care. I don't think interviews is a thing that defines me. So I invest in a relationship. Not an interview. Right? Like, I know some of you might think I'm tripping. me and Drake talk all the time personal conversations
Starting point is 05:28:41 these I'm like man this would be a crazy interview right my nigga I'd rather that than having an interview like I'm sorry like that relationship is going to be more fruitful other things come from it you know so like there's nobody who I who I fuck with a lot that people could be like oh we just have an interview relationship nah I've gained a lot more by just being friends
Starting point is 05:29:01 or at least showing that I'm a little bit more genuine than content for content monetization Anyway, let me hear what I guess so. Instead of just trying to build their way up, that's why I told you all that in the last interview. So it's getting worse. The money man, he had, he had his input on it. He felt as though Boosie should have,
Starting point is 05:29:22 he felt as though Vlad should have paid Boosie what he wanted. For the long, play the long game. Yeah. When I first seen it, I kind of felt a little way. I'm like, huh, why do us as media outlets, why do we always got to take the the short end of the stick so it kind of kind of kind of was like all right money man but then i remember money man is the same rapper and we talk shit about rappers all the time but we got to give niggas they flowers when it's due money man is the same rapper
Starting point is 05:29:59 damn they're coming off a hit record money man gave me two free features man for artists that's not even here no more he's in prison he's in jail money man is the same rapper who gave me an interview for free early in my career in Atlanta the nigger pulled up in a brand new hundred thousand dollar car BMW back then I'm talking about now I'm still living at my mom's house then he gave me another free interview about five years ago I think what he's saying is that he built a rapport with money man and yeah you know again
Starting point is 05:30:46 it's just different ways how you do things I told Vlad the way how he his business is set up people are always going to treat you as a bank they know you're the guy it's like a guy that walk in a strip club that all the strippers know pay for pussy
Starting point is 05:31:05 or they be tricking the one chick that's going to fuck that nigger for free the other girls are going to hate that nigger or hate that chick to say, yo, you're fucking up the game. This person pays for this shit. So Vlad is known as the, I pay a lot of money for interviews. So that's kind of what's happening. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 05:31:33 I feel like Bousie started to look at Vlad like that too. Because if this was really some homie vibes, You don't walk away over just five grand. You figure out a way. But I think they're looking at, they're looking at Boussey. And they're looking at Vlad as, oh, you're just paying.
Starting point is 05:31:52 You're paying for the shit. And we're trying to tax you because I really think they are trying to tax him, not saying he can't afford it. But the mere fact that people are having these deals to say, yo, if you don't pay this, we're walking away. And again, I said that was Vlad for it. Vlad created this infrastructure.
Starting point is 05:32:10 Right? So if everybody on Vlad TV, that gets over a million views says we want pay, that's on him. He created this. Just off GP, just the relationship, what he's talking about, the friendship, the relationship, Moneyman did that for me. And for that, I will never, ever, ever have nothing. Yeah, chat, as I said, young boy people, they say, act, you know you could stream in here anytime. It said Aiden Ross was a hundred thousand straight up
Starting point is 05:32:45 It wasn't a young boy It said it was people around it Some of the tour people Because I was saying I said When y'all started charging It was like y'all know I'm in here streaming Every night
Starting point is 05:32:55 I said oh shit Well you different You different You different you know It's like They're gonna tax certain niggas Should I even told Aiden that too I told Aiden to stop leading with money
Starting point is 05:33:07 Because when you lead with money You open up a conversation Where niggas don't want to be on your stream unless there's money to be made. You get what I'm saying? And I understand it too. You know, I understand it? I don't even blame, like, again, it wasn't a young boy.
Starting point is 05:33:24 I don't even blame some of young boy niggists are saying that. You know why? At a point, Aiden was trying to pay young boy like a couple hundred thousand or maybe it was a million to get on stream. So now, if he didn't do it then, like it's like a nigga that was down to pay for the pussy, and now you're going to let him fuck for free.
Starting point is 05:33:40 So I think that's what they were They were also looking at like man this thing was down to pay Even though Young Boy wasn't going to be on stream But it was like Just being at the concert it was like Damn this thing was down to pay a couple hundred thousand Because Aiden had offered a young boy
Starting point is 05:33:54 Like a wild amount of money To come on stream It didn't happen So I think his team was looking at like damn Even if you come into the show Nick Brin at least some type of bag Shit I was just looking at like That's my homie, that's my friend
Starting point is 05:34:08 He'd come here with me Because you know one thing I do love the guys who ran young boys tour. They allowed me to bring anybody there and they gave the rollout like, yo, your guest is our guest and they knew I was bringing people to make the show and the tour look great. Like, you know, I wasn't bringing no hater there or I was bringing people that they were going to always speak positively after they had a good experience. So, you know, but yeah, the thing is, once you start paying, it is what it is.
Starting point is 05:34:36 Nothing say bad about Moneyman. Never, because Moneyman was seen a young kid. He's seen a brand, that was building and he believed in me i will never have nothing bad to say about money man and when i seen him tweet that and we have posted it on say cheese i just i just couldn't be mad at it because that's what he really stands on he stands on long-term friendship yeah he stands on he's not he's not never on nigger time he's never on quick money i'm trying to fuck you over he's never on that he's always on look friendship I'm trying to build something longevity right business long term he's always on that he's always on some friendship shit and that's why money man is the way he is that's why he is okay so that's why he got into it
Starting point is 05:35:32 with um now I'm understanding okay so that's why he got into Adam and I guess he told Adam, you got to, shit, if I'm about to do an interview with you, you got to come with 50 bands, right? So, so Adam, Adam, I go withdraw all the money I got in the bank. I'm going to post screenshots of what my bank account looks like. These rappers will take 50K out of the bank and take a picture with it or pose with it or whatever and be convinced that they're doing better than somebody who's blatantly. doing dramatically better than them.
Starting point is 05:36:14 And I say this as a person who refuses to take part in these shenanigans. I do not go to the bank and withdraw money to flex on people. I say that standing in my many, many million dollar office building that I bought with my own hard-earned money. So, you know, to anybody who's actually fooled by that, who actually like see somebody withdraw money and flex with it on the gram, and they think that that means that those people actually got money, I mean, hey, if that impresses you,
Starting point is 05:36:46 I think you're the target audience for that kind of content. As far as for me, I mean, the proof is in the pudding. I just don't. I don't put myself out there like that. I'm never going to go withdraw all the money I got that. I'm never going to go withdraw all the money I got in the bank. I'm never going to post screenshots of what my bank account looks like. Just trust.
Starting point is 05:37:07 If I did, I can make a lot of these rappers look stupid. I agree. I agree. So Moneyman has a reputation for being one of the biggest cap artists in the music industry. Basically, everything he puts out is massively botted and inflated. He's nowhere near as popular as he acts like he is. So I decided to check out and see how his latest project is doing. It's right here. It's been out for about two weeks.
Starting point is 05:37:35 I tallied up all of the plays. It equals about 750K on Spotify. So we double that since Apple Music. music is a thing. Lends you on about 1.5 million streams after two weeks. And by the measure that we use, we divide that by 1,500. That is 1,000. 1,000 album sales total in the first two weeks of its release.
Starting point is 05:38:04 So, again, this guy wants you to believe that he's got money. And I'm just saying it's bullshit. thousand in the first two weeks. Okay. So I agree with Adam on the points he's making. Number one, I don't think Money Man is broke at all. I think, if anything,
Starting point is 05:38:27 Money Man is one of the most financially savvy rappers. And the money he's showing, I think Adam is a little bit misguided in thinking that Money Man made that money through music. I think he's good with investment, crypto. he's he's he's he's he's money made would be an artist that if i say he made you know he had a hit something but let's say he made 500 000 i wouldn't be surprised at that 500 000 is 3 million now like he's a guy he's slick with money he's into many different things he one of the first
Starting point is 05:38:57 rappers really even rap about crypto and all these other things he's been pretty savvy with moving around it kind of comes across like a millionaire a little bit so i i i wouldn't be surprised that's definitely not all the money he got but whatever money he's posting i don't think that's for music i don't think he got to post music money i think he got money though right so all right uh they're saying that charlemagne shalamine shalamine has responded to who do you respond to he responded to meek meld and meek mill was basically saying charlemagne was hating on his thing daniel williams thank you for uh gifting oh i've never seen that before jewels what's that jewels What's that?
Starting point is 05:39:40 Well, thank you for the gifted jewels. Is that on, that's on YouTube? Chad, is that on YouTube? Chad, what was that? I've never seen that before. Okay. Let's listen to Charleney, though, okay? Ask another question.
Starting point is 05:40:09 Go ahead. Is there any label that still has the power to be able to block our artists? Hell no. In $2.26, what label could do that? What label could call somebody and be like, hey, don't play that person's music? It would be all over TikTok if they did it.
Starting point is 05:40:24 Somebody would say it. The labels don't even have no power. The artists and the fans have more power than the label when it comes to distribution. Say it again, Andy. The artists, ask another question. Go ahead.
Starting point is 05:40:37 Is there any label that still has the people have way more power than labels? What label could call somebody and say, hey, don't play this person's music? Well, the labels follow the trends, right? The labels follow what the kids are listening to, what people are listening to, what artists
Starting point is 05:40:52 are making. They follow the trends. Once again, if you made $80 million off rap And you know, you're selling out your shows You're doing fine And he's doing great work with reform Meek is clearly doing that Yeah, he is. We love you, Meek.
Starting point is 05:41:05 And the people have the power. Way more power than labels? What label could call? Okay. So that is the Sorry. This is personal on Twitter? That's a response to Charleneek.
Starting point is 05:41:36 Or maybe I'm blocked. Oh, it must be. I think I'm blocked. What the fuck is this jewelry thing? What's... Oh, Twitter is down? Oh, really? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 05:42:10 Oh, let's back up, I think. Am I taking Adderall? No. All right, we are at six hours, though. I'm still trying to go a little bit more. Anything... Anything else? Or the mic...
Starting point is 05:42:56 We'll talk about Young Boys' Tour, not tour, but his movie later on. Okay, I think we might call it here, chat. We did six hours. This is our morning. W. Morning and sure or not? We started at 7 a.m. I haven't even ate lunch yet, so I'm about to go eat lunch.
Starting point is 05:43:15 I got some oxdills. I ain't gonna lie to you. My appetite been a little bit weird, but I got oxdale. W. Morning's show or not? W? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. I know we just did six hours, but I need to get back on here later to at least. I'm going to try to do like three to four later. All right? So maybe in a couple hours I get back on.
Starting point is 05:43:36 but if you guys did like the morning show or us streaming in the morning, please let me know. I'm trying to figure out times that, you know, it's probably the best for you guys to enjoy the content, to be all the way involved. And obviously we do a bunch of night streams. Sometimes I do really late night streams. We've done also the later in the day streams,
Starting point is 05:43:57 but still daytime streams, we haven't done much morning streams. So you guys let me know. The evolution of Michael Jackson. Yo, what the heck? I have no idea What is this? Gifted Jews
Starting point is 05:44:14 Is that YouTube? Wait, hold on, let me check what the fuck I don't know, like, it's popping up on my street I don't know what this is. See, y'all are gifted me jewels. What is that? Oh, and drill. I need my, I need my, um, true crime shit to watch.
Starting point is 05:44:50 I need my true crime shit to watch too. Oh, oh. You guys could gift stuff on, um, YouTube. Just Nisha, thank you Royal, thank you How do you do this stuff? Oh, this is fire
Starting point is 05:45:13 Why don't I talk about T Grizzly? What's going on with T. Grisley? Tell me. You have used YouTube for so long, but I don't keep up with new features. Oh, wow. CNG Dusky says keep hydrated. Oh, no, you guys are going crazy. Is this gifted jewels thing?
Starting point is 05:45:37 This is kind of like TikTok, right? TikTok does a gifted stuff. This is kind of fire. Oh, wow, we have a lot of... Eric David. There's a stay hydrated gift, a sunshine gift? This is fire. How come I never knew about this?
Starting point is 05:46:03 It should be shown both of them. Let me see. It should be shown. Do we have the King, A.K. Oh, we don't have the King Academics. I don't have King Academics and Lurts on? I do. King Academics Alerts.
Starting point is 05:46:24 Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. So both are on. I'll put that there. Okay, the left one is for King Academics. And then the right one is, okay. Yeah, so the one over there, that's King Academics, and that's the Academy. Oh, shit. We got like a whole setup going on here, huh?
Starting point is 05:46:50 Our chat up there, that's kick. That's always there. And then the Academy chat is there. Rumble, we got to get something for you. How do I, like, edit the gifts? Can we get custom gifts? Custom gifts would be fire. What of this shit?
Starting point is 05:47:18 Okay. Anyway. Let me see. Chat, we could kind of, you want to brainstorm with me? We could brainstorm what we're talking about later. That works. We could brainstorm what we're talking about later. What's the current update with everybody?
Starting point is 05:47:37 Okay, meek. Okay, we talked about that. Meek says the labels are blocking him. Now we don't believe that. What else? Nick Flint is in Trump. Steroids in West Watson. Okay.
Starting point is 05:47:57 We kind of got everything. Oh, we got to talk about the 100. We talked about this. We did our own 100 rappers list already. What else is going on? Yo, Vlad is so slick. He knows how to picket people. Vlad titled this.
Starting point is 05:48:23 It says, Busy's pride will stall his Vlad TV's return. Vlad, like, he like poking a bear. Like, he likes antagonizing a little bit. All right, anyway. All right, I think we're good. Chat. Let me go get some lunch, check all my dogs.
Starting point is 05:48:38 Matter of fact, if I'm eating, they're eating. And I will pop back. on here later okay we'll do that chat i love you thank you guys for all the gifts thank you thank you guys for all the gifts i will be back on here later on i don't even know what the heck you guys gifted a six seven all right i don't know how it works all right i'll check it out chat i'll be back love you guys w morning stream if you guys want to see more morning streams by the way we have a community especially on the king academic channel there's a community tab there you guys could like give feedback like act i'd like when you stream in the morning
Starting point is 05:49:15 I don't like when you stream in the morning. Stream this time because it works out with me. Just let me know because we need feedback on when the best time for everyone is. All right. Thank you, I love you. And by the way, we will get to, when we get back later, we got to go over the breakdown of the Fulio trial. This is day four that's going on.
Starting point is 05:49:29 There is a couple updates that we need to get to. All right. Chat, love you. Talk to you soon. Peace.

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