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Um, real quick, man, the crash house is happening. Media wars is happening. Uh, apparently Elliot Wilson has declared war on Charlamagne da God. Uh, essentially he calls Charlemagne a sucker. And this is what he said here. So, so. Back to. Mm-hmm.

Drake. Mm-hmm. Oh, he talked to. Like, like. I'm saying like so here you go. But, um, and I think that's... Yeah, all I've done is give people great content. I made people buy magazines back in the day.

Like, oh, he's talking. Like, I'm saying, like, so why do you want me to go away? Like, how's that going to help you? Landscape. People, when a boulders moved out the way, other rocks can, you know, try to flourish. I ain't stopping nobody from flourishing. I put a lot of people... Not on purpose?

I've helped a lot of people. Like, check the resume. Like, from the Vanessa Satins to the beatouts to the... Noah Callahan Beavvers, like, like, B-Fred, like, all these people, Bob Markman, I've helped all these people throughout my years in the game. So, I've contributed, I've helped others, I've elevated

up. I do nothing but big up. Look at my social media strategy. I big up shit that's dope to the culture. All the other people now is having problems with Charlemagne. I don't know about other people. I just think that, dude, you know, he can be a very funny style

in real life. I just feel like, I feel like we just never really click like that and also I just didn't like the last little brilliant idiot shit he did talking crazy about me being on the list top five and shit never explaining why I shouldn't be top five and I'm just tired of his shit and it's like it's like it's the old school it's like a certain point you just got to say fuck this person like fuck you like I'm born 971 like it can just be that we don't have to be cool we don't got to pretend you clearly have an issue with me or you don't like my presence in the game like you said maybe you think I should stand down to be a legend I'm

I'm not here to get this legendary badge with Big Boy or Angie or Sway. Like, I'm here to compete right now in the year of 2024. I know I'm a legend already. Like, I still want to compete in great, create great content. Academics gets that. He understands that. You know, I don't agree with everything that he does, but me and him have a good rapport. He gets that the OG out here.

He's competing. He's out here in the field competing. He respects it. How can you not respect that? I'm supposed to just be in the corner to be like, tell me about how great I was and what I used to do. I think it's like, fuck that. I think some of the... Interesting point.

I don't want to speak for Charlamy, but some of the concerns people have is when you finish your Drake interview, you said, I'm done, I'm retired. I didn't say that. You said that. You kind of was like, Rap Raid, are we good?

No, no, no. Who, you know, Mike Kaiser is or, you know, like, with Elliot, I see him on Instagram do this. Like, it's different, but it's the same shit. Out-out, nigga, like, that's not me. So I don't fit that. Like, you know, like,

50 yards. What you say fuck me for? You just me four times in that shit on that billion of your shit. You just me four times in that shit. I ripped every single one of them. You never said why I'm not number five, why I'm not, should be like celebrated. So what am I number nine, nigga? What would make you comfortable?

What would make you comfortable? When I'm going to be my presence doesn't make you comfortable. Charleman was four. Yeah. Kai was three, Joe two, and academics one. Did you like that ranking? No, I've never been happy. I've never been happy to be in number five.

I'm not mad at that. I'm a number one, digger. I'm number one. I'm number one in my book. Who's better than me? He's got a greater catalog than me. So I already feel I'm number one. Now, let me put a little bit of nuance on it.

Number one, I definitely think Elliot Wilson, he's in, like, I think that Drake should put a battery in his back to say, yo, bro, I don't want to be just the guy who y'all are going to just, yeah, his jersey's in the rafters. He wants to be the guy who's relevant in every era. and he wants to take his journalism, his media personality, space, and try to affect this era. Completely get it. I think what Charlemagne was kind of also getting at is like, and Y'all could judge it either way. I don't think, like, Charleneen talked about that list,

but every time I've ever talked to Charlene personally, and Yaka's, y'all could have whatever opinion about what I'm about to say, because I might be like, nah, he's only saying that because he's not number one or whatever. And by the way, me and Sharmay had this conversation last year, right? When Joe was number one. Shalman, like, he feels that list is great for validation for the newer media personality who haven't had some of the stuff that used to exist, right? You know, you know, Sway earned so many accolades to be Sway.

So he's like, this list, like, I don't think Sharmine gives us. the fuck that he's for or I think that you know what I mean I think that maybe he does I think he looks at himself like almost in that legend category right just like how I think he's looking at Elliot like oh Elliot you shouldn't be wild and to be high on the list that list supposed to be for like niggas who's getting to that point of trying to be a legend right now maybe that's my interpretation of how he looks at it and maybe he doesn't look at like that at all but that's how I get what Elliot's saying and I get what Charlotte Maine saying. But I

didn't like being whatever they gave me last year number eight, right? So I got motivated to shoot up the rank. Yeah, like Elliot doesn't say how he feels about shit. Okay, cool. I get it because I'm political, whatever. Okay, let me create a platform. Why I do do that, like the bigger picture I got this

debate show I'm creating with. You get a head. That's great. Jeremy hacked. So even that, and I hate that, let's get back to that. Let me forget that point. No, we don't just. I'm going to remember. So now I have a platform and even social media,

well, I'm going to tell you how I feel. And then they say, oh, Elias Messi. Nigger, the world's messy. Nigger, like, the truth is the truth. Like, how am I messy? I'm telling you the real. Nobody else is going to tell you the real. I'm going to tell you the real.

Elias Messi and the real. It said the show works because Elias Messi and End in the Know, my guy, Jeremy, the white boy, he's naive. He's just like a sponge, soaking up game, smart. And that head is the authoritative contrarian. He's just like, fuck that, it's not this. West Coast, West Coast, West Coast, West Coast. But also then, like, the same thing that Charlemagne did in that thing was he's bigging up DJ head, which he should.

The head as an argument, he should have been on that list in a certain sense because of the impact he had. With the Drake and Kendrivy. You're talking about Drake Kendribee. As the metric, I agree with Charlemagne that DJ has should be recognized. But don't be bigging up DJ head and then this and me when you know I created a show with him, when you big up that show before. It's like when people try to say shit about big enough beat out against me. It's like, don't do the divide and conquer shit. I hate that shit.

That's some suck of shit. Well, I do the dividing congencese. You don't big up BDOT to put me down. Don't big up DJ head to put me. Now, Charmaine ain't going to big up DJ head because Charlemagne is building a company. Anybody who signed with Charleneen, like,

Charlott May is going to give you a little bit more of a head knot. And by the way, that's another thing that when Elliot was saying whatever about Charlemagne, no matter if you don't agree with him, this, like, this is why Charlenean is a legend in that, right? Because you do care what he says,

right? You do care Like, Elliot's an OG too, but when it comes to this media personality space, bro, like, if Charlemagne say you're whack or if Charlemagne say you don't belong, you feel away. You get what I'm saying? Which kind of validates his kind of, you know, almost OG role as well. Anyway, apparently Charlemagne dropped the brilliant idiots and he came back at Elliot Wilson. And this would he said, I didn't even hear yet, but Elliot posted on his page. Great content on the way. hashtag 224.

Why is it on the way? Why isn't it now? Yeah, tell me what you've done over the past year that warns you be number five. Wallow and Gilly constantly putting out fantastic content.

Yeah. Interviewing all of the young artists, all of the young artists, like I said last week, want to go to Wallo and Gilly. Wallo and Gilly be giving them that OG game. Norie with Drink Champ

constantly giving you great hip-hop constant. Vlad TV, constantly giving you great hip-hip-hop content. I don't think that you should be over any of those guys. Number five, I don't think you should be over Gabe P. Like I said on the podcast last week, Gabe P is somebody who comes out with a show. I ain't going to lie. I think that's on the radar. Kill him, bro. I'm telling you. Like, should somebody put me on to a new artist yesterday. And like one of the main things they were saying more than show me to Spotify,

they're like, yo, got to go check out the on the radar freestyle. Go check out the under radar freestyle. the on the radar freestyle is how did them the songs i heard on spotify so yeah that's a huge platform right away so uh on the radar that is a rap show it's literally about the best the people go up there and freestyle so let me just that is rap as an outsider uh-huh to this uh can you be awarded a rapper hip-hop media award if you don't have a platform that's the other thing you don't even have a consistent platform but does he have a platform but does he have a platform from? I don't know. He does, but he don't use it. Rap Raperator was, I thought

it was really good. Like that the last time you seen a rap radar in him. I remember the interview with, was a Jay-Z where it was, no. It was five, that was nine years. I don't mean, that was a long, long, long time ago. So they stopped doing rap radar? I haven't seen one in a long time. Great brand. I know that they wanted when they lost their, when they didn't lose their last deal. I think the company that they was with

shut down. Shut down. Yeah. And then he wanted to come to Black Effect. Oh, no. We didn't want it. Oh, so that's why he's... I don't know. I don't know if that the reason why you know what i'm saying but we or it's more insult to injury when when you weren't interested you also said he doesn't deserve a spot listen man they haven't for what it's worth they haven't according to apple it hasn't released an episode since December 14th 2023 okay so let me that might have been me i might have been the last episode i know was gucci

man and but i think it was you know intervals shut down towards the beginning of this year so let me just understand this is is your argument in order to get to be be a figure in in hip hop media you need a platform to disseminate your media i think so i mean everybody else up there has one like anybody you look at it in the top 25 list if you look at academics has multiple academics have i actually disagree with that like this wasn't a platform list because it's a platform list with all due respect to half of that list is criminal that say she's not on the list of if we're talking about platforms then also if we're told my platforms you can't have Adam at 22. He has to be higher. I'm sorry if we're talking about my platform. So I thought that

list was about me being a media personality. Now, does the platform that you're being a media personality on matters? Yes, because it's like being a star player on an NBA team. Like, yo, if you could be John Morant, but if your team went 0 and 82, being a really nice player on a on a team that is completely trash, no matter. So I look at it like an MVP type of thing, right? Anyway, it's interesting with Elliot. I think what Elliot kind of did a lot more. I always looked at Elliot as he did great interviews, right?

I love this interviews. I never knew Elliot for opinions, me personally. So, and by the way, this might be also showing a little bit of my age in terms of, I never really read his columns that he used to write back when it was magazines. So I don't know if they were like mad opinionated. I don't know, right? I've kind of looked at it more like a polished journalist who is going to, you know, put both sides out there, have that journalistic integrity.

And I'm going to be honest with that. I think media just got into the place where niggies want to hear people's opinions. They want to hear people like them having conversation that they have in a barbershop. or have with friends. Like some of the journalists shit has kind of gone to the wayside. I still think there's a place for it. But I think if I was like a journalist these days, I would make my qualms by doing deep dive investigative journalism

and bring shit to the forefront that nobody has. Like, honestly, I think the journalist of today aren't writers, necessarily, no disrespect to writers. There are people like, Like, there are people like Traplow Ross. Like, Traplow Ross is going to go and take two months. Or even like, even like, what's the dirt? Like, he's going to, from a musical perspective, he's going to, like,

that's what I don't like about current rap media. And this is not an Elliot, right? Current rap media, ever since it turned into, and shit, maybe I'm one of the people who help, you know, like, change the landscape of it. ever since rap media turned into it's about Instagram pages and like streams and whatever and radio shows people who write articles and I'm not this in no particular writer

but if they write article on hip-hop D-EX Hot New Hip-Hipop if they write articles on double Excel for the most part they're copying and pasting they're not really being journalists and I get it it's probably not a great paying job no disrespect still I'm not really not trying to disrespect but you're not going to extra mile If half of your article is a bunch of Instagram posts and YouTube links,

like nobody's going to care about what you think. I'm not saying y'all got to have to be writing op-eds, but y'all don't bring nothing to the conversation and you don't bring anything that's substantive that people didn't already get from an Instagram page or Twitter feed. So I look at the new journalist like Traplore Ross, right? Like that motherfucker is going to, he's going to go dig some shit up.

Like, if we're talking about music journalists, you can't tell me what's the dirt's not a journalist, because all the music journalists didn't figure out one millionth of the connections he made in the biggest, most important rap battle of our time. That's what I'm saying these days, media has just changed. So I think, and again, I might be wrong on my assessment of Elliot, because I think Elliot these days have now, he's came, over from the older school journalist lane to now being what I like to call a talking head. I'm a talking head.

Joe's a talking head. Charlemagne is a talking head. What does that mean? When you go to these people, you go to me, you know I'm probably going to disseminate the info, right? You know, usually in a fair manner, right? I give you the details, but I'm going to give you my opinion or it's going to be colored in my opinion or my humor.

It's very colorized, right? It's like what they do with color commentary on T&T when it's like NBA games. That's what Charlemagne does. He might tell you about what happened about the presidential shooting, but he got all type of colorful shit to make it entertaining. That's why you watch. Same with Joe Button. He got a bunch of insight he's going to bring in past experience, got jokes.

That's like all those things. That's what kind of people are tuning into these days, rather than like kind of just read like read or hear like some. And again, another thing that, and this is the last thing I'm going to add before I just let them battle it out. I believe that in 2024, 2024, because there's so much platforms, there isn't one de facto interview platform anymore. And if there was one, it's not in hip-hop, it's Shannon Sharp, right? but and I've talked to I've talked to an artist about this I don't want to kind of name dropped them huge artists

but they're like hey this this time I'm dropping an album I'm gonna go with this oh I'm gonna go with this like they pick and choose what in so again the times has changed where you know I think Elliot also comes from the school of all right well him Angie swayed they're gonna get the big interviews They're going to get the looks with the artist. Nah, Ice Spice, honestly, truth be told.

And by the way, Ice Spice, she had promised me an interview. Like, she probably shouldn't want to do an interview with me. You know how Act going to get during the interview, my nigga. He's going to ask you about all this shit you don't want to answer. He's going to press you about the Nikki shit with the Texas. He's going to pressure you about Lado. He's going to ask all these things that you're probably not trained or equipped well enough to answer and you know it's going to be spicy.

You probably don't want a spicy interview. you go to Kai, do a little dance, like do push-ups and like have a fun time with Kai who's pretty much, I think Kai is amazing. He's doing improv with these artists. He's extracting a personalities out of certain people who don't have personalities. I don't think Ice Mike said that most person.

Anyway, that's where shit is at now. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, when you look at, when you look at Elliot, Elliot is, he's in the lane of, now being a talking head and I don't know if he was always a talking head right because I never even when I watch all his crown

interviews I've watched his interviews with Jay-Z I didn't really say like I knew he was going to ask the right questions I never went for his opinions right like I think that that change also happened with Vlad a bit right I think Vlad

Vlad went from the guy just asking the questions to Vlad now pretty much gives his opinion heavily in every interview you but it's a little bit different for Vlad because he's doing it primarily on his platform and even though the style is change right like Vlad talks a lot more sometimes he's on camera with niggas um but it's still Vlad is Vlad TV so it's like don't come to Vlad TV if you now mad that Vlad TV or Vlad is given his opinion on Vlad TV right so you so it's what it is uh Elliot I'm watching him kind of like traverse this this like um

this wave in, he definitely wants to compete. I want to see him outside of the issues with Drake and how those opinions, you know, and I think I've seen him tweeted. I've seen him tweeted. Like, he'll be like, oh, I don't like this song, or this shit is whack or blah, blah, blah. I've seen him give the opinions.

But again, I think that's more of kind of like, what a lot of people are either expecting. And I think he's starting to do it. So we'll see. We'll see. I probably said a whole bunch. I hope that wasn't all word salad. Hopefully there was some meaningful shit in there.

But anyway, let me finish, listen to what Charlemagne was saying. And let's talk about that, right? People can say whatever they want about acting. Give him his props again. He consistent. Now, he's involved. He's involved. Act might be on stream right now.

He's involved. Act might be on his ninth hour. He's like, into me. Yeah, we got to do seven hours today. Because we didn't do yesterday. We got to do seven hours today. Right. Yeah, me, I'm just a different type of motherfucker who kind of grew up on, like, I would want to do a 24-hour news network, and I wish I could just operate 24 hours talking about everything, right?

And stream is like an interesting thing. It's a skill actually I've kind of honed because to entertain for seven hours and keep people is so hard. to last seven hours pause this is also hard but you also don't want to have like a stream where people like all right this is the boring part I'll be out of here so you know what I mean that's another thing I give credit to like people like Kai when I see that motherfucker stream for like four or five days even I know

he's just not talking about hip hop he's doing a lot of things you gotta have you got to build up that muscle to last pause we might whatever time we're taping he might be on his ninth hour of a scream and this might just be his first time jumping on the day and he's intimately involved

in most of the beefs that are happening. He's like releasing music. Come on, bro. Daily, he's on the screen. Incredible. He's got the off on the record podcast. Same thing with Joe. He don't realize it's like,

Joe's putting out two podcasts a week. It's a four times. It's a four years. Gillian Wallow putting out, not just the podcast. They got the Gillian Wallow adventures they're always putting out. Vlad has always put out content.

Gillian Wallow killed it. Traploid Ross got documentaries. There's so many people you can put on this list, even though I feel like the, was Traploreau. not on the list. Was Traplor? Um,

complex. Was Traplor Ross had to be on the list. Traplor Ross wasn't on the list? Oh, yes he was. Okay, I was about to say. Yeah, Traplor Ross is our modern day journalist, brother. I'm sorry to tell you. He got the shit right.

And I know he got a little flag for like certain like crime documentaries. But I, you know, this is why like I think I think what's the dirt is he that's what he is too right I think both of them right I think what's there's more of a music based type of thing right breaking down things that that come from the music he's breaking things that come from the culture I can't wait to hear I can't wait to watch trappler Ross's documentary on maybe some of the stuff that's happened behind the scenes with the Drake and Kendrick things that maybe we've missed or maybe we'll find out later and he's going to kind of crystallize his era with like a dope-ass documentary type thing. I've always said his shit could go on Hulu. I kid you not. Icons like the big boys and the Angie's and the Sway shouldn't be on there just because they're iconic and they should be doing some else.

Even they got daily plat. We should have another list for them that puts them in their proper perspective of the Mount Rushmore. Because it just feels strange to me. It's like right now if you said who the top 10 players in the league, let's just say Braun is at 7. And I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying, you'll be like, that don't look right. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Even though we're talking about right now, that don't look right. Yeah, like to me, I'm like, if we were doing the top five media personalities in basketball, I don't know if we put someone on that list that didn't have a platform to disseminate their media. It's really that simple. I don't think that's an unreasonable take, but then would your argument be that he shouldn't be on the list at all? Now, I'm trying to think of this from both languages. I would, I would, are there, you know how like there's some people that, like, Twitter is their platform. I can put him at 25.

Okay. Because Twitter trolling should not be enough. And by the way, me and Elliot had this conversation last year because one thing that people forget, he went on DJ academics podcast last year because once again, he don't have his own platform that he can utilize. Right. So he went on DJ academics platform. Play what he said on academic platform last year, Taylor. This was last, last August.

Oh, he was last August. Yo, if show me got prepared. prepared clips all your ass is over it's over yeah he'll phone with that to get off what that chick's move I'm getting this chick's move

by the way also here's a thing too and I don't know why this conversation also get I like these conversations because I feel like I'm the only one used to have them anyway well joys have them too I do want to be very clear charlemagne's about Rushmore um

media personality we're talking about and when I think about me the personality we're talking about people who hold their own on this microphone with their opinions people who are usually and most of it is talk

like him sway um sometimes when I say star like star is one of the most talented who's ever been a broadcaster uh but if we're just talking greatest I'm also looking at career. Elliot is one of the most legendary, I believe, journalist. And that's not a slight

that he's not on, like a media personality, I don't care too much if you're a journalist or not. You get what I'm saying? Like, you're speaking on current events and I get that might make you a journalist, but like you might just be, you might just be a niggies of talking shit. You might, you might just be like a guy who is just using humor to mix with your dissemination of hip-hop content. You're not a journalist. I think Elliot Wilson is probably a Mount Rushmore guy of journalists, hip-hop journalists, right? There's a few other journalists that come to my mind, too.

But that's where I think he's at, right? I wonder if that makes sense. I think it does. You say, you know, Chey's going to have everything else. Whatever you say, she's going to be on YouTube with it, man. Charlotte Mann is remaining loyal to his network, the Black Effect, network. So if you're not with him, you're against him at this point. After DJ academics called out Charlemagne for pretty much doing an interview with Loon,

after he's been asking him for an interview for the last two years, looks like someone else has beef with Charlemagne for not doing an interview with him. That would be Elliot Wilson. Yes, the same Elliot Wilson that got mad and sensitive that Drake did not do an interview with his platform, but went and did an interview with somebody else that's not in the culture. Elliot Wilson was on DJ Academies podcast of the records. Make sure you guys go check it out on Spotify, where he made it clear that he's not rocking with Charlemagne right now. And not only that, but apparently they were never cool.

Here's what Elliot Wilson said. I'm not feeling Charlotte Man right now, though, too. I don't like the how he moves sometimes, honestly. Wait, like personally? I thought she's really cool. No, we're cool. We're cool. No, no, no.

I mean, listen. I was a feeling. I think that he does. I don't think some type of OG moves he doesn't do right. to me. I feel like he's really much about his his his people's his network and how he's moving now. And I think there's a change. You you spark that. I don't knock that. And I kind of understand it. I was like, yo, if if I have this power and cloud of being Charlemagne, yeah, I'm going to try to give it to the people who are kind of incentivized with me. Now,

granted, I do think that, you know, you have to, you can't then you can't be too biased with it, right? because you can't, you can't just only try to empower the, well, you should try to empower the people that you're in business with, but then you can't lie to people and be like, yo, they're the hottest. Like, you know what I mean? Like, wait, nobody watches this guy. Like, we don't care if he's the business with you or not. This guy is nobody, right?

And said that and I think that there's true. Of course, I think does the, I think that's always been true, showing me. I feel like he's got more empowered and the lines have kind of been drawing more about who is on his side of who's not. Yeah, if you're not black effect, like, you're like out the bus. Yes. Yeah, I mean, but what's your in Israeli? Can I, can you pause?

I mean, it's almost back. I mean, it's promoting my company. No, no, no, no. This is an actually interesting thing. Talk to me. Because I know where that energy comes from. Talk to me. They see you promoting certain people, doing certain positive part of your network.

I'm assuming, again, I'm not exactly sure how they got great content on the way. Hashtag, 24. Why? Oh, okay, okay, okay. My bad. I just see it. All right, cool. All right.

Holy. Yeah. It feels like it's getting a little personal here with Elliot and Charlemagne. And, yeah. I'll see how this kind of plays out. He did post something else that I posted before. He posts a lot. Is it a lot?

Oh, shit. Yeah, she did a magazine. I think it was Rolling Stone. So he posted this. This was the clip of him interviewing Trippie Red at Rolling Loud. And I

captioned it by saying Tripit Red speaks on the term selling your soul backstage with Elliot Wilson and Rolling Loud. And Drake Drake says, LOL, LOL man, shits on not coming on his platform for a second time. And now

Elliot is 10 toes doing yes, Jules, run-up interviews that are rolling loud. Just admit, the youth took over, big dog. Yeah, and I think Drake kicked all this shit off. And by the way, he said, God admit, academic theory is correct. This still pisses me off. I've never been on Demon Time.

I've been on Demon Time ever since. I'm the goat, and I'm going to continue proving it. Blame Aubrey, it's our anniversary. Hmm, interesting. Well, this isn't adapt. or die type of space when it comes to media right it's like artists these days don't want to go sit with the niggum who will ask him every question they also don't want to sit with charlemagne at times when they think he about to be funny they don't want to sit with me when they think that i'm about to go say some shit that they don't want to hear right so

the artists are picking who they want to go to and um you just got to kind of adapt and shit i guess elli's trying to adapt i'm just sitting back and watch their back and forth honestly it's finally a finally a personality beef I'm not in? Perfect. Perfect. I'm messy enough, definitely, to keep watching what happens. But I'm kind of very neutral. But I will say, Elliot goat journalist, Charlemagne, goat meter personality.

All righty then. All right. All right. Where is I about to go after this? Speaking of which, we're about to watch a Vlad TV interview real quick. So, and I got it. I'm going to give you that a little backstory to this. TV.

Okay. So, you know, when Vlad has a, uh, uh, when he has something against you, look, Vlad called Aidan Ross a junkie three months ago. Look, he just put up a flashback clip. You know why he did that? Him and Aiden don't really get along, but Aidan Ross came back to streaming Aiden, Aiden, Lean. Aiden came back and he said he got hooked on Lean, and he got exposed by rapper Lucky for buying Lean for $12,000 a pipe.

I'm the habits of everyone in my life. And I needed this break, bro, to really find out who I am. And I apologize to a lot of people I let down, but now I'm just say it, bro. Yeah, motherfucker, sit leaning again, all right? I said it. All right, but I'm not on that shit anymore. All right, I'm not on it anymore. Straight up, I'm not on it.

I know y'all knew. Why are y'all laughing? I know you guys knew. What do you need no way? Yo, Aidan's my man. He suffers from the syndrome of I got too motherfucking much money

You get what I'm saying You give a motherfucker A hundred million dollars In the space of like two years And try to see if that nigga Go and find motivation to keep what This is why a lot A lot of times when it comes to contracts

They try to space that bitch out Because nigga If you give motherfuckers the money too quick Like brough You mean anything I want I could buy Anything Then now you get tired of it? Like yeah

You just kind of you lose a little bit of motivation. But anyway, I'm glad my boy Aiden's back streaming. I look good now. I haven't been on that shit in months. I'm just saying, all right? Why are y'all laughing? So this is why Vlad put up that thing being funny. Also, the- You problem, right?

Every drink, every, I know you said you're done doing lien, but every lien, man, you know the excuse to charge me off of lien now? What? They'd be like, yo, you mean, Aidan Roth's paying 12K, bro. Yo, Snaggie! Yo, it's $12,000 for lien? like one little bottle of like the the prescription thing that makes lean is $12,000 now this is too much of an expensive habit

is it that is it that expensive I thought I'd be seen broke niggins sibling how the fuck is it 12,000 off yo bro you say it a little too much my nigga what is you talking about bro You said a little too much. My thing is, my thing is, I'd be like, I'd be telling niggas like, yeah, young thug in jail. So who else you're going to sell a lien to now? Like, and they be saying, Aiden, so you got to chill out. Your plugs be lying, bro. Your plugs lying to you.

I'm not even on that shit anymore. Yeah, I'm not even on it. You know what I mean? I kicked that cup. Yeah, yeah. No, you know, man. Kikki. You did $12,000 for a pint, nigga?

Hey, snaggy. I was down bad, bro, one time. All right. That's the Luma. Manati prices. Man. $12,000? Nick, I bought the extra big bottle of

Casamigos. That shit was like 170, nigga. Like, the one that's this big. And I was like, fuck, am I spending too much on an hour? Actually, I'd be spending... Like, I used to have... I used to spend $2,000 a month.

Was it $2,000? Yeah, about $2,000 a month restocking my bar. So every month they would just bring new alcohol. But $12,000. for one little pint and I'm talking about it they bring everything they they fucking even don't even drink beer a bunch of Corona class A boxes of Casamigos boxes of Henny and shit like that um but yeah that was only just like that was it was I was

I was playing maybe more than 2000 maybe like 3,000 but I still feel like that was a lot of money right not a lot of money but just a lot of money for like a vice like bro you're spending that amount of money like if you really think about like you're going to spend 25,000 a year on alcohol bro, like that's a lot, bro. But 12,000 for a small thing, a pint. God damn it. But he do got a bread.

Well, I'm saying that's what happened when you get a hundred million dollars. It's like, a hundred million dollars is like, it's like 12 bucks to the boy, right? But I'm glad my boy's back. Shout to Aidan Ross. All right, anyway, I've seen him drop a clip,

which I got some insight too. My daughters. So, Vlad is, Beefing with Polo G if you don't know. This is the thing. Vlad is a petty guy. He's beefing with Polo G. Right?

And apparently it started for my podcast. One day Vlad calls me up. He said, oh, I. He's like, yo, Polo G caught me and was like, wiling on me. Like, damn, they haven't threatened me. I said, why? He was like, because I did, I interviewed on your show, and I talked about how I ran into him and his brother at the bank. I said, where?

I said, what's the problem with that? He said, well, I guess because I said they'd look very cool and he apologized for dissing me online. I guess Polo G at Distim online and something like that. And he said Polo G wilded out on him. Anyway, let me see if he tells the story here. You tell him better than me. We was talking about, you guys good or just still friction?

With who? Polo? Yeah. No. No. No. He still hasn't talked to you. No.

This text message thing happened a couple of days ago. Come on, Polo. Come on, man. This Vlad, man, he's trying to work it out. So apparently Polo G told Vlad, your, on phone him grave, nigga. When I see you, you better have a stick on you, bro. Like, what?

I'm like, no. That's a Vlad. I'm like, yo, no way. There ain't no way, Polo. Like, yo, you don't want to even talk gangsters to a white Jewish guy. Like, come on, bro. Like, you know, it's going to be the FBI file somewhere. Like, what?

But apparently, Polo G was telling him, like, was like, yo, nigga, we could meet up right now. Like, I'm like, yo. No way. I still, like, I really was asking, Blatt. I'm like, he didn't say this, right? Knock it all. Come on. I even told, listen, if you want to,

if you want to see me face-to-face, come to do an interview. You can say whatever you want on camera. I won't cut out any of it. He's like, oh, ha, ha, you just try to get an interview. Like, all right. For me, it's all business. Like, we're not friends.

We don't have a relationship. But I'm seeing this path you go through with all these charges, with your brother's charges, with your mom shooting. Like, how you're, rob someone and have them PayPal you the money. Like, who does this?

It's crazy to me. He beat that, though, right? The guy never pressed charges because he didn't want to... So right now, all Polo has is a gun charge in New York. I believe so, but I don't know the other charges that he had from before are still pending or not. But regardless, this is a multi-millionaire, multi-platinum artist that should have real management. And I even told him, I said, if you had real management right now, they wouldn't be

letting you text me like this right now. I guess this is the full clip. Got photos on. Yeah, because he would tell me the story. The story sounds so unbelievable. I ain't gonna lie. Something on a stream or whatever. When he showed up, Trench Baby pulled out.

Well, I don't know. The video, from what I understand, was her own ring cam footage that she sent to someone who then posted it online and so forth. see each other and I'm like into each other at a bank I'd actually interview Polo when he first first came out. Did an interview with him

was one of his first interviews. You know, I thought he was a dope artist, whatever else. We never did a second follow-up interview and then I remember this one time Ennell E Choppor was like Oh, DJ Vlad's the feds and Polo G responded, yeah, I agree or something, some, something. So

we run into each other at a bank in Calabasas. I see him in line. He's He turns around, he sees me. He was with his little brother. The Wells Fargo we all go to. Be a man. One of those banks.

He just docks to everybody who goes there. So we see each other and I'm like, yo, after you're done, can we go talk outside? He was like, sure. So we go outside and we have a respectful conversation. You know, and I'm like, yo, I don't, you know, I'm like, I don't know why you would publicly dismiss. me when I've only showed you love. If you have a problem with me, you could have just reached out to me. You could have reached out, whatever.

And I was just a little disappointed that you did that. He goes, well, you know, I don't like some of the questions you asked in interviews or whatever else. And I'm like, okay, I respect that. Let's exchange numbers. You know what I'm saying? If you ever want to discuss it, whatever, I texted him a few times. He never responded to me.

That's cool. Whatever, life goes on. So I mentioned the story on academics. And I'm like, yo, I feel like Polo with all this drama, you know, is not really taking his position seriously enough at the level that he's at with all this stuff that's happening to him. So Polo DM me.

Oh, shit. You said, yo, what's your number? And I'm like, here it is, same numbers as last time. But I'm like, yo, it's my birthday today. I can't talk to you know. He texted me. I said, I can't talk right now, but when I'm done later tonight, I'll call you.

I called him. You know, he didn't answer him that he FaceTime me. So I pick up. Oh, you want to get on Demon Time. you know all the hoodniggas, that's their thing. They're like, oh, I ain't going to say to you on the regular phone. It could be tapped. I'm going to say it on FaceTime because there's no trace.

We start talking, and he starts getting loud with me over FaceTime. He starts yelling at me. And I'm like, you know how I am. I said, look, if you're not going to talk respectfully to me, I'm going to hang up on you. And he kept getting more and more loud, so I hung up on him. And that started a two-day back-and-forth text message back and forth. He was like, yo, you got to meet up with me. Oh, shit.

I said, why the hell would I meet up? You know, I don't roll security out here. You know, you had a chance to talk to me in person. You need to meet up with me. And I'm like, why the hell? I'm 51 years old. I'm going to meet up with you. That's insane.

You have a gun charge. Your brother has a murder charge. Your mom shot at your sister. If I showed up, I'd have to bring my gun with you. me, right? The hat feels in Borgon. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, why the hell would I be that?

That's insane. And it's like, oh, you were goofy or whatever else? And I'm like, I'm a goofy. Look what you're going through right now. And I'm like, let me tell you something. I say, yo, you're in an incredible position right now. Yeah. I sent him a list of 19 rappers that I've interviewed that have been killed violently.

Half of them were around his age. It's crazy. That many, Vlad? 19 rappers. Do I ever name him? Yeah, you fuck him. with that. Hold on. I'll name them for you. I ain't team rappers. Now, keep in mind

I've been doing this for 16 years. No, yeah, I said a lot. Jimmy Wapo, age 21, Dobey, age Mac Miller, 26. Oh, my God. Understand what's going on. Have you considered moving out of Chicago? No, no, I'm not going to do that. You know, young and ace, I know you and Fulio, can y'all just work it out? All right. Anyway, basically, there would be, and apparently, I think, I don't know, I never seen the messages, but apparently

Vlad believes that Polo G was trying to, you know what I mean, meet up with him to handle business. Vlad is like, nigga, I'm 51. You got all these damn charges. What you think I'm about to do? Just because I said, I think supposedly, according to Vlad, Polo G was mad because he made him seem like sweet. Like, yeah, like I walked up on Polo G in the bank and he was there with his little brother. And I told him, man, why are you dishing me online, nigger? Like, and basically Polo G was just like, oh, okay, my bad, my guy.

Like, here, here's your number or let's exchange numbers. So I guess Polo G's like, yo, you make it sound like I'm sweet out here. Like, like, it's just whatever with me. Like, nigga, we could meet up and I'll show you I really get down, nigga. You know what I mean? So, and apparently they start cussing each other out. I don't know, man. I don't know.

I don't know. Like, no one wants to see you guys gone. He's next. because he keeps taking shot bro. Yeah, no, he did a diss song right after Fulio got killed. Yeah, but the whole thing

with like, anyway, uh, constant beef, constant beef, constant beef, constant beef, constant beef. Uh, if we're still talking about beef, apparently there's another nigga name Vaughn's 1700. Him and Asian dog going at it.

All type of bullshit chat. Here we go. what's this so apparently you know this thing is like the demonic dexter the laboratory guy bro like dexter's laboratory guy like

this is him except supposedly you got like 10 bodies or something like that Asian doll and sexy red because you know them DMs got it different when Asian doll expose you like break this shit down

would you do a three so both of them though I ain't gonna lie, I smack agent all down. So you're a smack up for exposing your DMs, break that down? No, I'm not smacking it like on my hand. Oh, okay.

I was talking about like... I hit her, though. But once you front your move on no jumper like you wouldn't touch her or something? No, I never said I wouldn't fuck her, none of that. Okay. I said, I fuck, I said if she catch me on the off night, like, I'll rush that.

But you was over whooping it on a, on a, on a, on a own night, on phone number. On the own night, if I'm, look, on both. We walk into function. There's holes in that, right? Put a batch of holes in that. We're going to go.

Look, you just said, we're going to go sexy red Asian dog. Chad, who you got smashing? The options of sexy red and Asian doll? This puts the moholes. Cuban doll. Malado. Hose of them type. We put in holes in now walking the party.

I got that shit on. I got my chains on our walking a party. On the own night, you think I'm going to be looking at Asian, dog? That's like. That's like Asian doll like, that's like Asian doll like 3 a.m. 4 a.m. dry. Let me just call that. Like, you know, that ain't like no birth resort. But all of them DMs you was sending it, it was like that was an urgent whoop. Like you really need to hit. It was three, though. Three DMs is crazy. It was only three kissy faces, though. Only three? That ain't a lot. That ain't a 3 a.m. You ain't even, you ain't even.

Okay, so you was trying to smash Asian doll. He was hitting her at 3 a.m. DM in the 3 a.m. Right. What you mean? You got to get up first before you get to the 3m. 3 a.m. I like,

I don't got to teach you how that shit goes. And did look, you want to know it's so funny, though? I don't really want to talk about that shit because then they're going to probably be like he's talking about the girl and all this. But look, though,

only reason I did that, look, boom, I ain't going to over say no names or none, but she communicates with one of my homies now. Me and my homie be like, all right, anyway, Asian dog went ballistic on his side. nigga. What the Asian dog said?

Wix gives you. Oh my God. These ads are killing me. There's for Von of 1700. I can't go live and shit so I never get a chance to really just pop it unless I make one of these videos, right? I just really feel like a lot of you shouldn't say my name and no interviews. Like a lot of y'all is a really ugly is pop dirty in real fucking life. Like I don't get no about no deal money, no money. You got money. Now your ass ugly is ugly is ugly.

A lot of these things are really ugly. Like we really is women having really started telling me like. Be sure to like, comment and subscribe. Like if you ugly, please do not say my name and no motherfucking interview. Don't say Asian door shit boy. Your ass ugly as hell. What the fuck? Like a lot of y'all,

ugly said oh we was in the party who bitch if I was in the party I wouldn't be looking in no mother you with no ski mask on face big as hell busting out the ski bitch I ain't worrying about y'all ass your ass ugly can't talk to me in real life oh god on Jesus Christ like in real life like I swear to god bro I be deeper than half of y'all j'all because I don't shit to me got attracted to me I'm not in no mother fucking party looking at child just want to I don't you. Lame ass. Y'all is really ugly as hell.

Like I read, like, what? I got a type. And you is not my type. So don't sit down interview and say, oh. No, he's your type. I'm sorry, Asian, though. He's your type. You told us your type before.

You didn't say attractive. You didn't say got something going on for you. You didn't say use deodorant. I don't know if he's thinking out. But you didn't say none of that shit. You said your type was killers. niggas with three bodies or more and survey has said

Vaughn of 1700 has done killed a good dozen niggas. So he's your type. Asian doll type of men. Look, we're gonna, we're gonna find it.

Like she tweeted out. Where does she tweet that? She said with niggas with three bodies. Niggas with three bodies. I'm just Googling. Look, please have at least three bodies before you talk to me. Boy, I like killers. I think it's a killer.

Hyangy type. Now, I watched a little documentary on this guy. They said this guy was a demon. Let me see if I can find this little documentary. It was something about like a gas station or something like that. Killer. Oh, here we go. Oh, my God.

Anyway, let me finish hear what she was saying. Agent, the bitch, nothing. Bitch, you couldn't see me with your glasses on, bitch. Like, really be feeling their self. I'm not going to lie, bro. Like, really feeling they stuff.

You're playing with the right one. I don't, bro. I'm a humble. You bitch, you ugly. Like. Hey, hey, news flash, news flash, news flash. for women who would like to say that that dudes are ugly

it don't matter yo it don't yo y'all women have made it where ugly like ugly ain't even a diss to niggas like a nigger rather be ugly than broke so when a girl say a dick is ugly

because y'all is still fucking ugly if that nigga got money Y'all niggas actually rap about just fucking the bag. So I'm not, I'm not going to that. I'm not going to that. Bitch, I see your face. I frown up like, boy, your ass ugly. Don't say my mother.

Name no interview, bitch. Like, what? Stop saying my name, bro. This, like, I'm losing count. There's so many interviews. Oh, my. I'm in a party. I wouldn't even look your way, bro.

All right? I'm going to look your way. I want nothing. Your ass wear a glass, bitch. Like, who's gonna be looking at the neck with the glass? Like, why? I'm gonna fucking on the track. I got changed two way.

Money too way. She said, who's gonna be looking at the nicker with the glasses? I ain't gonna lie, man. You're not gonna play with the, you know what I mean? You ain't gonna play with my boy right here, man. Yo, he's like Dexter's Laboratories, Shirex demon, man. April 22nd, my h's coming up. He grew up in West Chicago, or as locals referred to it out where.

So, you know, let the people know where you're from. You're from out west, right? Yeah, I'm off my husband and Larry. Nah, this, nah, this kid, nah, this nigga looks like a killer, though. You're from the rack? Nah, this nigga looks like a killer. So would that be because... I'd be scared of him.

Said like, A-block? In fact, yeah, airblock, Tausband, SBG, Holly Grove. Yeah, me and him, you see, he does, he's just two gangsters to really hang with me, though. But me and him, we could be in the Alvin and the Chipmunks group. Yeah. I'm Alvin. I'm Alvin. Like that's a fact. Me and him, Alvin and Chipmunks.

Alvin and the chipmunks. Me and him, we could definitely be in that, but I'm definitely Alvin. 100%. I'm the star, right? He could be the nigga who's on the right. No, he could be the thing on the left right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is me, A, for academics or Alvin. And he could be this nigga right here. Feel me? We both got that little, you know, the little chipmunk. thing going on. It's all good. It's fine. So he's a gang. He bringing he bringing some gangster rhythm to the chipmong face niggas. That's what I like that pause. TTG, QTG, GG, TG, obviously. An area often considered to be the most dangerous part of Chicago, even more so than the

infamous gang infested south side. Out West is notorious for areas like west got. This is brutal. They say a monos 7000 look like he's number two in the world in Minecraft. You know, a nigga says, all I know is if I get killed by someone that look like Vaughn of 1700, I'm asking God for a do-over. Somebody say, you look like someone you talk to at Best Buy when you're having problems with your computer. Yo, yo, you bet I hope this thing that don't have an IP tracker, but all you niggas is dead. He said, nobody talking about how goofy he looks in a shiasty. He don't look goofy to me. Look, gangster.

So someone in Shireakology Responding to the post of Von allegedly bouncing out The Durango and said Traplora Ross writing a video right now So he said Yo Von 70-100 came by and fixed my computer the other day Told me he was going to

He was going to a dungeon And track his story When he was done He said y'all going to make that man crash out To prove a point they'd call him goofy anyways Oh man Somebody said he looked like a pop patrol villain y'all gotta stop nah y'all niggas is wilding out bro this is

why do gangsters have to look a certain way rafield park which was labeled a chicago fool you von off seventeen hundred does in fact have a track record of arrests with a gallery now these these look like serial killers with his mug shots being this gang is based around several streets in northern barber hood vlog the oh that's a bit of the street oh i i know i know Shit, I believe him. I believe him. Tos gang and their members

indeed have a lot of respect for Von. At one point, Von of 1700 is posted on his friend's block surrounded by masked up goons who all appear to have his back. So now you know where Von comes from and exactly what 17-block too. So now you know where Von comes from and exactly what 1700 is. Let's take a closer look at the top. Tosgang crew so that we can better get an understanding of what Von has actually gotten himself into at a street level.

Nah, that nigga gotta be gangster. He'd probably two gangsters for like contact lenses, my niggins. Like, like contact lenses LASIC? Huh, two gangs for that shit, for real. Nah, I believe this guy. I believe him. Toss Gang. Oh shit. Fight and kill members from gangs that rep the same faction as themselves. Therefore, just because Tosgang were originally four-corner hustlers doesn't mean that they'd avoid beefing with other four-corner hustlers too. He do look a little bit like saucy. Let me not say, because I don't, I do not want to get on this guy a bad side. He seems serious. He do seem serious.

An example of this is Toskang's Beef with Black Mop, another crew that were born out of the original Four Corner Hustlers Gangs. Any of the other than, he has been going on for over a decade. Yeah, I'm murdering their ass. Like, but it's different for me because I lost family. So a lot of people lost friends. I lost family. And then so it's just like, it's different. And crazily, he goes even further, saying,

whenever the ops die, look at us. I, us, team. We... Wait, what? ...are killing their ass. They ass land. Turn about some incriminating their cell phone interviews. Look, foe.

We is killing the ops, for. I don't get no f***ing their ass, for. So tell them, we is killing them, for that's what we doing to the ops, for when they die, look at us, yes. But when you say we, you're not saying that you personally

want to be involved in anything like this, right? I, we... Yo, Adam, your, Adam gets the nigger the snitch, then try to get him to... clean up the snitching. Yeah, yeah. Tell them how more, tell the ops what you by to do to them. Yeah, we're going to kill all them things.

All right. When you say, we, who you mean? Me, me, nigga, me, I'm the guy. Team, whatever you want to call it. We're killing a man. Now, this is a crazy way to talk about. Let's not forget, completely illegal activities

happening. Yo, chat. Hey, time out, whoever the fuck in my chat just said, that nigga looked like Stefan Uricle, nigga. You better stop playing with Vaughn a 1700 nigger. Yo, what do you think the shysse smell like? Pause. What do you think, what do you think the stench of the shistie is?

Price me. In real life, to give you a sense of just how deadly Toss Gang's beef is, in June of this year, 2024, just weeks before recording this video, one of Vaughn's best friends, Mook Money, was actually killed. Mook was shot and killed in West Chicago, and he was only 19 years old. And because that murder was so recent, there's actually very little detailed reporting on it. But according to Chicago Police, Mook, real name J. Rion Smith, was hit multiple times in the body by a currently unidentified.

Samus car? You specifically or somebody that you know did it? Somebody I be with stole his shit. Somebody I beat with stole it. Okay. Vaughn would say that his friends used to always be stealing cars as a sort of hustle and that Lil Zay wasn't robbed because he was an op, but rather it was just an opportunity for them to steal a nice whip. We used to be outside.

I used to be, we used to be stealing cars and this another. Yeah, this ain't even looks like a guy to steal a car. going to lie. My girlfriend and his, you know, they ain't cohoots. Weird, but word got back like, oh, they got this kind. They call us. My man, that's my car. Moving.

This is that that gas station footage that I think people have been talking about. Let's see. Side in the Chatham neighborhood. This happened near 86th and state on July 26th. So you see the three people there. They get out of that Dodge Durango, that all black car. They shoot the victim. a 31-year-old man by the name of Anton Benoit.

He was just standing in the parking lot of the Shell Station, and then after they shot him, they ran over him with the car. What? As they were trying to get away from the scene, that victim sadly died from his injuries. Well, listen, Karen, the victim is 31-year-old Anton Benoit. He is from Chatham. He grew up in a very close family.

He is one of seven children. Family members say they hope that the surveillance video released today by police will help catch Benoit's killers. A small memorial left by Anton Benoit's family remains on the sidewalk outside the Shell gas station where the 31-year-old was killed a few days ago. Surveillance video from several different angles captures Benoit's brazen killers getting out of their black Dodge Durango and opening fire. I know somebody know who somebody is and I mean if we do something we'll say something. Why did it connect this shooting to Devon dude?

No, we're wearing an identical... Attack area two detectives. Family members of Benoit claimed that he loved helping people and that he was looking to begin a new job and change his life after being in and out of jail recently. Now, an attack this brutal and seemingly targeted surely would not have been random. Clearly, the shooters wanted Anton dead.

Later, it was claimed on Shirecology that Anton Benoit was in fact affiliated with a gang set called Bashtown and went by the name Ant. Now, Vonoff's 1700 was not initially being tied to this murder, maybe due to the fact that it occurred in a completely different side of the city around 30 minutes drive from Von's hood. But in 2024, fans began to notice some clues that Von had been posting around, possibly on purpose. The first sign was on Von's social media, where he posted a picture wearing an identical fit to one of the shooters that were seen in the surveillance footage at the murder event.

Von could be seen wearing what appeared to be the very same shisty mask, black hoodie and torn jeans. But what's worse is the shooter also appeared to be wearing glasses just like Von, which arguably is pretty unusual in Chicago. But he didn't stop at just posting with the same fit that was worn on the drill, because in an interview on No Jumper, Von also made some pretty self-incriminating comments, where he specifically... Yo, I ain't gonna lie to you, man. I see what niggas is talking about in the comment section.

Nigger, if you get smoked by a nigger, look like he just came from Lenscrafter. Come on, man. Like, bro, bro, bro. You wake up in heaven like, God, give me a do-over. Come on, one more time. I need a mulligan. Come on, brother. Come on.

Yo, what... Yeah, a nigga, he just came from Lenscrafter. Yo, the hardest test that thing ever took in his life was, yo. read that line of letters like nah hell nah hell nah he told adam his gang was killing the ops when adam tried to get him to clarify that one didn't mean himself personally one replied that he meant it i we teeter i don't get no fiss killing they ass so tell him we is killing them for that's what we do in to the ire for when they died look at us yes well when you say we you're not saying

that you personally want to look so when they die look at us what be involved in anything like this right i we team whatever you want to call you're killing they a if an interview gonna get me locked up let me know now because i'm i'm going to try out so as they say yeah we got this evidence from this interview if y'all don't get y'all dumb ass on in the same interview von also eerily said that he used to steal dodged derangoes but he doesn't get in those anymore and the cars we'd be stealing this some of the cars i don't even get in no more like r t derangos i don't get in them cars no more okay an interesting comment when you consider that a dodged der rango was the exact vehicle that was identified as having been used in the murder of Anton Benoit.

A very specific detail to mention, almost as if he wanted people to speculate that he was the shooter. But was he self-stitching or false claim it. Still, Vaughn didn't stop there, as he would hint towards this theory in his music too. On the 23rd of April, 2024, he would release his new hit, Flame Out, where Von raps about murdering on camera and watching the footage back like an adult movie. And then, more specifically, he mentions catching an op trying to get gas and bouncing out blasting. Then he takes it a step further, leaving nothing to the imagination, putting it on God that he committed the murder. In addition, on the track, SOB, Von also seemingly mentions the murder, where he refers to sliding south, possibly a reference to them travelling to the other side of the city to do the drill.

Then he mentions using a Draco and a 45, which was seemingly matching the descriptions of the gun seen on camera being used by the shooters. All of this seemed to be a less than subtle reference to Anton's death. But while a lot of that does seem quite convincing, many are still saying that Von is not really the killer, inferring that he may well actually be trying to clareing. body that isn't his just for clout. For example, this Redditor who believes Von and AMP could never have even known each other would also doubt the authenticity of the theory regarding all your pond keeping needs. Like, he's doing this and doing it, like, you can't even hang around me again. And he's like, flage and, like, I got real young, real live hurt people.

Like, for real, for real, like, no funny shit. And he's like, he a fairy tale, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he'd get up and, oh yeah, yeah, I just killed this. Like, you're so stupid. You really like that. That's a real case, you dumb ass the boy. You know what I'm saying?

I don't even know. Nick, talk on these interviews and be trying to seem cool. You really a dummy. You know what I'm saying? You really, you really, you really showing. Who like is this guy? A true color is.

An interesting comment appeared on a Reddit repost of that interview. All right, right. This is about a dangerous gang out of Chicago. All right, all right. Okay, okay, okay. Vana 1700. You don't got to convince me. I believe you.

I believe you. You're tough. You're tough. Okay What? Why y'all saying call AD? What happened to AD? What happened to AD?

All right. Okay. Let me see what else. All right. So in other news, and I think this whole thing is stays, if you ask me, I'll actually go to Shadrum.

I think this whole thing is stays. So apparently, like, Bobby Althoff and And what's my boy's name again? Bobby Althoff and Funny Marco, they aren't getting along. So, or not necessarily getting along, because I don't know even why this video came out. That's why I think they're both in on it. But Funny Marco apparently canceled going on tour with Bobby Althoff.

If you don't know the whole story, apparently Bobby Althoff, she started doing a particular type of interviewing that she was inspired by Funny Markle, the dry comedy. the okay just saying stuff kind of socially awkward stuff funny marco been doing that a while right apparently she was inspired to do that apparently they were kind of cool and she supposedly paid a lot of homage to him and obviously she blew up because she got a drake interview this on third and interviewed a bunch of other people and went crazy and culture but she paid a lot of respect to him because without him and his style she doesn't blow up anyway she announces a tour that she was gonna i guess it's gonna be a comedy tour she he was supposed to go on a comedy tour with her instead he canceled the tour and he made these videos to explain why let's listen i did stand

up before and i'm still doing it so i understand i'm learning how to entertain a crowd and it's not the same thing that you get on instagram all right hold on let me see if i can find a full funny marco video because that's just one on instagram hold on funny marco bobby alf go off now The main point of conversation or contention here is that people are trying to see how that awkward style of commentary or interviewing will translate to a bigger stage or translate to live comedy shows, right? I think every online comedian has to go through that, for example, Druski. people were wondering, Drewski, you're funny, but how do you get

could have been records live? And he kind of did a really good job showing, I could do this shit live. By the way, he's about to do the State Farm Arena with the could have been whole thing. He actually announced even real performance,

but he's going to do could have been in an arena. So he's proved that, you know, you don't necessarily have to go around doing stand-up comedy for people to come out. And by the way,

he went on another tour before where he kind of was, I think it was mostly like could have been stuff, right? That's his thing. And to be honest, it's work for him. He doesn't got to go, get on a stage and tell jokes like a traditional comedian, even though some traditional comedians would say he would need to do that to gain respect from real comedy savons. Anyway, Funny Marco, he's a comedian, right? And I think Bobby Althoff wants to be in that lane of being a comedian as well or I think she calls herself a comedian so she announces a tour now the difference

between them and druski's that druski's is doing the same bit that already works online he's just doing in person they're do they're trying to be or they're trying to do regular comedy now we don't know if they could do regular comedy um i know i've spoken to funny marco like off line about it to be like yo are you are you working on comedy sets like and he and what he's told me He's like, yo, basically like he's hitting the gym for comedy. He's like, no, I'm working out material. Like what you see in terms of these awkward interviews, cool, but I want to be a comedian that could hold down a stage.

That matters to me, right? Anyway, I think that's where there's a source of disgruntilness between them comes in because Bobby Althoff kind of wants to do what she got famous for, but he wants to do stand-up comedy. Let me get to the explanation. Here we go. and then you gotta keep going. Here we go.

Watch up the fitness trainer if you are somebody that athlete start posting your highlight tape. You feel me? You know what I'm saying? Like, feel a rapper. Make sure you go out and do shows, like promote it.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Start doing shows for three to four or five people. Show your journey. If you got a car you don't want, show the type of car that you drive. Don't be hot. Don't be afraid to share your journey. A lot of people be trying to just feel like

this shit is just like overnight and it's not. And you just got to really believe in God. and believe in you and they go forward you feel me so I want you guys to know that that's very very important okay I just feel like I go with faith well this is gonna be like a waterfall whatever you want me to say um kids I want you know I feel like airship is very very important you're doing nothing wrong I can't but I just don't agree with it I can feel it and I feel like Bobby would do it and use your platform and then go about your dad

because it's about long like a relationship relationship is very, very important. So the fact that I feel like I was, I did stand up before and I'm still doing it. So I understand I'm learning how to entertain a crowd and it's not the same thing that you get on Instagram. This is real life where people are going to look

and they want the energy and they want the feeling. So again, it's exactly what I'm saying. It's the age-old conversation of you might blow up. Like some of these guys blow up doing like, like for example, DC Young Fly blew up doing roast videos but he's turned into a stand-up comedian right like like dc young fly does stand-up uh desy bangs does stand-up you might see them do skits but they do stand-up right and it's like a

different art and i guess like this is comedy the the awkward interview style but it's like i don't know if you could just be awkward on stage and just get laughs without it being conversational right like some people are conversational funny or they're reactionary funny but a stand-up is one versus however many people in the crowd so he's talking about how they have a different style and that's why he's not going to talk and i feel like bobby was stiff a little bit you know what i'm like hey man let's let's really really work on this like and i paid script writers like let's really get him a show and where she told me that's not me bobby was like my comedy is me not talking And I'm like, shit, this is different.

Like, you can do that on the podcast, but in real life, this is different. So her comedy was different from what she said, from what she wanted to bring to the show, which I can respect. You know what I'm saying? There's not nothing about me getting mad. I'm not saying you're doing nothing wrong. I can't, but I just don't agree with it. I can feel like I don't agree with it.

You feel me? The same way, she probably don't agree with what I do. So you're not wrong for how you feel. But again, when people pay them tickets. Oh, my God. And I'm trying to put a production show together and then you're not saying nothing and I'm up there trying to talk and I'm like, hey, Bobby Bob and you're just like this. It was just like it was hurting me because I know people are paying their hard. Like it could be a last money.

It could be they don't care about it. Like I got the money. But again, if you don't pay to see something twice, I don't want to do it again. I wanted it to get better. But Bobby was just in her ways of doing it how she wanted to do it. And I was in my ways to do it how I want to do it. So nobody's in the wrong when it comes to that. But on my end, to explain to y'all, I just wanted more out of Bobby.

I wanted her to dance more. I wanted her to talk. And the audience was, believe it or not, a lot of people is coming to see her. So, like, her fan base is big. A lot of people were seeing her. You know, as much as I'm selling out on tour, a lot of people was coming to see her. So that was a beautiful thing. So I'm happy.

Like, man, they're coming to see her. Like, you can go along with this. Like, you can really make your podcast go live and taking it and bring your other guests on there. But again, she was doing it her own way. And I want entertainment. I want you to learn something. I want you to laugh. I want you to walk away and be like, damn, that was a good-ass show.

I don't want you to be like, yeah, it was all right. Because, like I said, when people just think about money, that's what hurt their career. So it's a lot of times I have to turn down a lot of money because I just feel like it just wouldn't good for my brand. Or it just wouldn't be, I wouldn't take it as serious, you know? And I don't want to play with nobody money. Like, I'm not the person I do that. And I feel like the world just feel like everything's about money and they play with people money and they want it. But again, it's just about.

about if you get it once, how can you get it again? Can you get it the same way you got it the first time? So understand that everything's not about money. Like money is a reward. So once you tap in with yourself and you realize this is power and this is power, like your brain, your mouth and your actions, those are the three pyres. Your brain, your mouth, and your actions. That's what's going to bring you the money.

But people don't want to use the brain. I want to try to learn about Marco. I want to go by. Okay. So essentially he says, her style comedy is different for his. She didn't want to adjust, and he feels guilty if he's given a half-ass show to people who are coming out for a good comedy show. It doesn't matter if the show, if they're selling a lot of tickets or not, he wants to do a good show.

Now, this is where we get Bobby Althoff, who then responds, responds to Funny Markle. She responded on her Instagram story. She actually deleted it, so I've got to find out here. Let's see, let's see, let's see. Where's her response? All right, Marco. I guess this is how we're doing this now. I saw your...

Okay, she has this weird edit style as well. Let me see. Where can I find her video? Okay, okay. Maybe finding here. A lot of people is coming to see her. So when you got... I was in here, locked out.

But I'm so depressed right now. It's my... Here we go. Are you recording? All right, Marco. I guess this is how we're doing this now. I saw your video. I don't know why these are gonna lie.

I was a little shocked. So here's my, my version of what happened. Last year, we were supposed to go on tour, and I backed out last minute because my husband had just left me. I just had surgery. Didn't her husband leave her because she allegedly fucked Drake?

Or she sucked that nigga off and some shit like that. And I was super nervous going into this because I was not prepared. And I text Marco and I said, Marco, I'm so sorry to do this. But I am so depressed right now. I literally want to myself. He doesn't reply to me. And then he unfollows me.

I woke up from surgery, actually, to him unfollowing me. And not only that, in the coming weeks, he would go on multiple podcasts and talk about how much he didn't fuck with my style of humor. fast forward sometime and in Vegas doing an interview and he bumps into me and I'm like oh hey stranger he's like let's go on tour again I'm like all right fine let's do it but during this tour I'm trying my best every time I'm telling him like Marco he's like you need to do this you need to do that and I'm like Mark I'm trying my best but like it's hard for me to get out of my comfort zone of like I have social anxiety like debilitating social anxiety that's why this whole thing of me it's not fully a character I actually am socially awkward.

It's embarrassing. I don't want to be, so I lean into it. And I am doing my best on calling him, calling him, calling him. Doesn't answer me. I'm like, okay, congratulations on the baby. Doesn't answer me. He just won't answer me, but then he's tagging me in post of Taylor Swift dancing and being like, that's Bobby.

And I'm like, okay, at least we're still cool. Fast forward to today, and I get tagged in a video of Marco standing by a pool, talking to everybody about why he canceled the tour. It's going to be funny. It's going to be great. I love Bobby. To death. Bobby's a...

Okay, so she basically says she's going on our own tour. Here's my thing. I got to give Bobby Althoff. Amazing credit for how well she knows how to infiltrate culture, use it, and still play victim. Right? You know, it's one thing about a white chick, bro. And I'm not saying this about all white people, all white women.

It's like Taylor Swift, for example. Taylor Swift is the biggest artist in the world, yet is the only artist in the world that's been a victim her entire career. It makes no fucking sense. Like, it's kind of crazy. Like, even the way she's responded, it's kind of feel like, oh, oh, I'm just this innocent, like I'm being attacked, you know what I mean? Rather than, hey, the dude just explaining why he ain't going on tour.

It's not like he fucking snakes you. It's kind of making it seem like, oh, wow, I thought we're cool. Like, why are you doing this to me? You know what I mean? It's such an interesting thing when you watch those people do that. It's crazy. So I'm watching her do it. I can't even blame her for half of the shit she's been able to get over.

Because let's keep it real, man. nothing validates these rap me girls more than a white woman being with them who's supposedly not of this culture, who supposedly represents another culture, but they feel like they're putting them on to this culture. Whether you're seeing her with YG and Compton, whether you're seeing her with offset chilling somewhere, whether you see her with Su Kiana dancing and they're teaching her how to make her butt clap. Yeah, all of these things is, you know, like, I think she's smart. She's a genius, if you ask me. I think she knows how to infiltrate some shit and use people's fascination with her.

Because to this day, I don't see the swat of people in hip hop or elsewhere say, oh, this girl is really funny. And there's a lot of really funny. Like, Theo Vaughn is a really funny white guy. I don't see nobody who's actually saying she's really really funny. really funny. She's really talented. They just, she's usually like, we're kind of confused how this person, like, I remember Andrew Schultz said this. Well, he said this about Steining. He was mean to Stein. But anyway, I agree with that about her. I've never seen someone with, at least in my opinion, the least

amount of talent get this much opportunity. I don't think she interviews well. I don't think she's funny. I don't think she even does funny Marco stick even close or remotely as funny or better than Funny Marco. Yet she's had a million more opportunities. She has probably three to four times his fan base. Again, I've never seen somebody with the smallest amount of talent get the most, which then I have to just give her the credit because she is smart. Some of the stuff is because of her skin color.

She's a white girl with blonde here. Let's not even really evaluate what that does to the psyche of the Negro mind because I have no idea why every rapper feels like they need to have an interview with her to go viral. But I get it. They want to cross over to what they perceive is her fan base. And her fan base ain't supposed to be hip hop. However, she has no relevance or at least relevance to the level that we got her to without her tapping into culture. So it's kind of like this interesting way where she realizes that black artists see her as a way to escape out of the urban environment.

But she has no real stake. It's not like she's the girl from Caller Daddy. It's not like she's Joe Rogan. She only has, if you used to look at her views, she would interview someone that was Caucasian. If there wasn't a racial element there in terms of if it wasn't her with a black guy, or a hood guy, it didn't do too well. So she's found a way that I think her talent might not be in comedy, might not be an interview.

And I person don't think she's entertaining at all. I think her talent is the fact that she's smart and she knows how to outsmart a lot of people, whether by having them perceive associations with her to help them while all is doing is actually cementing her in the culture that always is going to look up to somebody like her for whatever reason so i think she's a smart respect j prince oh kai is streaming what kai got going on why did i say call ad i think ad texts me all right oh yadi's on yeah but i said you want to make bad you want to be one i'm watching i'm saying no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no No one no watch up.

So I live. Yo, just looking at an ass one, bro. He's what. No, I'm not doing, I'm not doing, I'm not doing a watch. I'm not doing a watch. I'm not doing a watch. I'm not doing a watch. I'm not doing a watch.

Wait, is it like, choose with watch? I'm just like a watch. Wait, this yaddy on some. What's this glove for? Well, that's not gonna work though if we're doing a whole team thing. Go, it's just like a watch? See somebody else? Travis, is your heart?

The ice spice or shot this one? Nah, it was like, it could have been saying way better. Yeah. I ain't, I already. I haven't any, like, no one. Where is? Let me see what you think, Yadi. Let me see what you think, concrete.

Yo, Yadi's quietly fin to become, like, the new age era. He's going to become the new age era Gucci Man of this shit for, like, the newer wave of rappers. from what I see a lot of the people in concrete they actually bro people fucking with them bro like I think some of them are developing their own fan bases the girl I think her name is caribou

like people have been fucking with her a lot too so man I think Yaddi might have something with that they're playing ice spice songs I can't play the ice spice songs I can't because I'm on YouTube I'm muted. Pause. Somebody said,

yo, he looks good. Tori dropped? What did Tori drop? I just want to hear. All right. I just want to hear the quality, really. I probably can't play. Can I play it?

Maybe a little bit. What the fuck? Hell nah. This shit do not sound like he in jail. Like a step my mom in center to a die ho's But my plan was to get rich shootouts gave me PTSD that's the damage that it You're lying Yo this gotta be an old song

It's no it's just new Yo does he mention the fact that he's in jail I want some houses. I want to be crazy. We got to be honest, though, chat. Overall, under two weeks before Meg the Stey didn't get his cell rated, bro. So apparently Tori's going to be dropping music. I think every week or like every couple of days, maybe a song or two,

and he's going to be dropping it from jail. And he's supposedly recorded them in jail. the only thing, and I hate to be the guy who's like making this a thing, but apparently a prisoner don't really have the authority to release music that they recorded in jail unless they're usually in certain programs that allow it. Like there's certain programs in most penitentiaries that they might allow an inmate to do actual recording and release. Otherwise, they usually think that's a crime that you're putting out, you're communicating with the world in another way other than the jail phone. You get what I'm saying? So I'm wondering, you know, I could imagine Meg right now is like, like, fuck this nigger, man.

Like, to be honest, Meg needs Tori to go away and die for her career to, you know, look a little bit better. And if that nigga is still rapping, it's going to keep the whole free Tory lanes, uh, movement going on. So I could see somebody at Rock Nation calling the Warner like, yo, go check that nigga. Go check that nigga sell. Push out finger up his ass, pause. Make sure he don't got no microphone or a phone in there that he's recording on.

But the quality of this junk sounds amazing. Not going to lie to him. Sounds amazing. He's spinning. But this, I didn't see any overt. Of course, the first line is about being locked up. But nothing about this told me that he couldn't have had this before. he like

yo if he starts out a song like yo it's 4 a.m. in my jail cell you know what I mean like niggas things shit shit sweet but this shit ain't well like if he starts some shit like that I'm like oh shit that's him for real in jail oh what I do know about Tori

is that Tori usually has a plethora of music yo I went to Tori studio that nigga played me a Spanish a Spanish album not a song an album the nigga had three rmb projects the nigga had so much music like to keep it real like we all know he won't be on that stuff that they say breezy be on but he work like that he works incessantly he has a lot of material so maybe he just releases some stuff and he's just calling a prison tapes because it's a good marketing but maybe he's not recorded in prison i don't know yo four

at 4 a.m. in my jail cell? 6 p.m. in the hole? Pause. Come on now. Nah, but this shit is riding, though. Now, Tori fire, though. Tori's fire. Tori is fire.

Tori is fired. Jesus Christ. Right. There's a new song. Yo, what do you have to think about this Ian? Ian kid, right? I've been seeing his name a lot. What do you have to think about him?

All right, I can't really play music. Okay. I know we have a new little Dirk song, Little Dirk YTB Fat. There was a little bit of drama about that I believe. Here was the drama. Where was the drama about it? Apparently on Little Dirk's verse,

he shouted out like DJ you. You got to remember, after he did the interview with me, he basically came back around and he said, yo man i don't want to keep keep going at these guys i don't want to keep like pushing violence i want to like have a change and on his new verse he was kind of rapping about you know some shit he said yo they ain't never seen no more fuck a fox link up with a goat you know how that goes sneaky like a fox till his broskey died some niggas hate to box two two three two is cranium now his hairstyle has got to recreate his locks fucking on an op bitch fuck a location my shooter's going to stay in the car

Fuck on a top bitch She told me personally What could stay in and watch Niggas count your pockets Niggas be thinking they you Making me a topic Like they'll profit money off DJU Which by the I think that's a disdefinitely

To a lot of people doing interviews about them Right It's a court side at the sky game 100 on me Telling Angel Reese to shoot Drake on me in the gas station for the kit We got a minute or two Street niggas get robbed for anything.

That's how they image reduce. All type of baddies be on me heavy. I might send them to Zeus. Same nigga in the fairs that had your back send a nigger a deuce pushing P. Not a truce. Matter of fact, tell J. Main to send me some whoops. That's a shoutout basically saying, yo, he's pushing peace. He's not trying to be cool though.

That's actually a really dope line. P. in terms of pushing P's, but not a truce. Matter of fact, tell Jay Main to send me some whoops. You know what I mean? I've heard that Dirk is like in an interesting spot when it comes to like even Chicago now because a lot of the negativity around him, he's kind of shedded. He's leaned a lot more into like spirituality and him being a Muslim. And I hear a lot of people don't like it.

A lot of people who allegedly were cool with them or backed them or whatever, they don't like it. They're like, yo, yo, what's up? And their perspective is it's a lot easier for you to do that because Now it's benefiting you because you're thinking maybe the fair's looking at you. So you're trying to get a little positive because you're trying to avoid an arrest. But nigger, you're rich also. You're not in these areas. Like you, we still got to see these niggas.

These niggas are still clowning our dead people. You know what I mean? And, you know, again, the other side of that too is like, how long do you want Dirk to keep pushing violence and war and death and destruction? Like, at some point, you've got to stop, right? So anyway, pushing P not a true. Matter of fact, tell J-Main to send me some wolves. Hell Star with a Louis bucket. You know smirk me thugging.

I still play a little Zay at my family function. Man, fuck my cousin. You know, that's a shout to a little Zay Osama, who, by the way, I believe it's locked up now for that switch. You get you left in the Uber. I don't look up to niggas we call O.Gs. I don't look up to niggas we call O.G.'s them niggins ain't taught me nothing. That's also another probably line that has to do with.

I've been hearing certain people are frowning at at Dirk really bigging up, like people like J. Main or saying he's pushing P in terms of pushing peace. So Daddy went to jail and he left the money. Them niggins ain't bought me nothing. I guess he's basically talking about, he's talking about probably the dudes who want him to keep just pushing that destruction. Right? He's saying, you know, them OG niggas, fuck what they're saying, right?

I don't look up to them, right? Daddy went to jail and he, and he left that money. them niggas ain't bought me nothing niggas paid $5,000 for a pint the shit got serious janky ass trying to sue I guess

janky ass promoters trying to sue smirk for a show better go sue your veneers who tried to sue for a show let's see Lil Dirk sued concert

who's trying to sue is it this all from fans I don't know if this is a losses. He probably faces a bunch of losses. Let me see. Fan injuries. Maybe this is it? I don't know. Anyway.

You talk too much, little brother. Calm down. How they know who you killed? He probably talking to one of these niggies going on, no jumper, right? So you talk too much, little brother, calm down. How do you know who you killed? You talk too much, little brother, calm down. The feds know who you is. Oh, shit.

I like this era of Dirk. Dirk talking, he's still talking spicy, but he's talking smart. He's talking spicy but smart. He's trying to not, he's not talking full crash out. Like, nigger, Hellcats and Trachaws is Crashout, Dirk, right? Like, he's talking pure crash out. I think that's inspired by Von Garcels. But, yeah, he's learning a little bit.

I like this type of, I like this type of Dirk. I don't rock with Dirk, man. I ain't a lot of you. All right Drake dropped I think it's a Gordo's song If y'all was saying Drake Gordo Drake

Yeah I think there's a Drake and Gordo's song When flea Do you think that Drake is kind of Using maybe like Maybe he's going to use a Calid or like a Gordo Or maybe a feature to put out songs Because you think he's

Not sure about like the music or do you think this is just regular okay we back in mickinos with it back in monaco it's that monaco music people let's go oh i can't play too much of it's going to be blocked yeah once i see this i can't play it yeah i can't play sorry chat go go listen to it though i look up the lyrics and see what he taught about sideways gordo lyrics Yeah, I should admit I used to love you. I admit I used to love you. Came up out of nowhere, but I used to love you.

But you remember my girl, it was just my turn. Then it went sideways. It's just my turn. It's the truth. Why lie? If I dropped her name right now, she'd be too high because she want to, I bet she want to come to Miami or come wherever I am. But you were never my girl.

It was just my turn. It was just my turn. It's the truth. Why lie? If I dropped her name. Okay. All right. nice little mickinose joint is that the only track he's on i can't play the song chat and then

healing i would play the song but i but it's gonna flag youtube and i don't want youtube to get flagged this is drake again so i guess he got two tracks on gordo's album i swear don't want to hurt myself no more i don't get it nobody tells me that i'm hurt enough always trying to turn it back, but it's a new day that I don't, don't, don't want to hurt myself no more. I came out tonight and I want to go home. I'd rather spend some time on my own. I can't stand small talk. Nobody's real.

I look okay, but that's not how I feel. I said some things. I should have said more. My words were right. Jaw hit the floor. All right. These are all little girl joints. I haven't fully listened to him.

I got to listen to them as if it sounds good. Bozo says I can't believe Drake is now 0 of 4 officially on features Drake's similar back is officially dead Rest in peace 2009 and 2012

Now I haven't listened to these joints yet But also you gotta realize This guy makes house music So Gordo's makes house music Right So like Y'all I know what type of song Y'all looking for

For Drake Y'all want to hear that Popping shit Yo zero to 100 type vibe Like I know y'all want to hear that I don't think you're going to hear that until he drops the music like he's not going on gordos album who help bring out songs like sticky and texco green to go talk spicy right he's going to go with the flow

he's not going to go on cabella cabellio track to do that it's not going to be on sexy red track to do that so we're going to have to wait for him to drop music himself right y'all trying to make everything out of everything when i say when i say these are little girl joints i'm not mean like Children, relax. Do you guys really think? I don't think Drake, come on, stop playing with that. I mean, those are, these are chick joints. These are chick joints.

But Drake always got little songs like this, right? Like, who cares? I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure one of these are kind of catchy. Like, I kind of got the vibe of that off a couple of seconds. When flees. I want to listen to this one a bit. Again, I can't play the whole thing because I'm on stream. Okay, so long as commercial ever.

What, boy. Yeah. This is two-step, two-step music, summertime music. Yeah. Bozo says, act, you're copping, please. Drake was hopping on everything and making hits. Bro was dropping songs with Romeo Santos and making hits, even Maconan. I hear what you're saying with that.

Like, some of these songs, they might be hits in these. I don't listen to house music, my nigga. Like, like Drake is the one that made me cannot listen to it. Like, well, actually, let me say, I'm wrong because shit, I love Jersey Club, and that's kind of like a form of house music. So I guess I'm wrong. Uh, so I guess your point is that Drake ain't driving heat no more? I'm sorry, I just can't judge off, like, those Camila Cabello songs, I can't judge off that. I can't judge off this.

I got to wait until he drop his record, bro. And I like the Yaddy and Drake song. I don't think it's a smash, but I like the song. It's waving. What's it, Childish Gambino? This Drake? Did he really? Hey, Chad, Stacy, what's up with you?

You say you're trying to catch up, but as a green beret, you promise the Secret Service isn't the same. They're not like us. All right, you said, talk about Cardi and Ice Spice. Yeah, so that was interesting that kind of came out of all this. Ice Spice's music was released internationally before it got released in the United States. and you know certain countries are damn near almost 12 hours ahead of us. So her music was leaked, basically 12 hours before.

Usually what they do now is that everything comes out on Eastern time standard, which means midnight Eastern time or that would be 9 p.m. Western and it would have came out 2 a.m., not 2 a.m., actually 5 a.m. in the UK. So that's how they kind of drop music It don't come out midnight everywhere And the reason why they do it like that Is to not prevent, it's to prevent leads Actually, I think anything that's after

Yeah, no, I'm fucking up, yeah Yeah, so they basically match the times That music doesn't get leaked, okay? I hope you're honest Because we have time zones, so if it came out at 12, it would have been five hours before If it came out at 12 in the UK, it would have been been five hours before in the U.S. It would have been 7 p.m. on the East Coast,

which means people would have been listening to Ice Spice songs, and it would probably just rip it. And even if it was a 12-hour or 10-hour early listen, people would be hearing it. Anyway, it happened with Ice Spice's songs, so like 12 hours ago, like people had most of these music, and apparently popped up on streaming services internationally. That's what happened.

Regardless, one of the main things people are talking about is a song called BB Belt, and Ice Spice said, this. Think she pretty, but change her face. Folling behind like bitch, pick up your pace. It was funny till I took a place. I'm in cooling, but I'd be like, cool this.

I'm a squishy bitch. I really do this. Like, skin, but I'm black. You can top of my hair. I get money. Okay, okay, okay. Now, granted, um, listen, I didn't even know this was going to ice spice. That's how random I thought this was.

Regardless, uh, according to the people in the, the, the Cardi the Barty gang they said that Cardi B was responding when she tweeted this she said these bitches have absolutely lost their mind I'm getting all my lickbacks on my album though on each on every one of you bitches okay and she said these bitches can't see me

number or status yeah I had way too much time to catch up can't see me in money can't see me in real estate fashion can't see me in person either I'm not in a rat race with none of you bitches and I'm a show y'all okay now let me see if I couldn't I thought they were cool with each other or fake cool with each other. Right?

I thought they were like fake cool with each other. But apparently they're not. Like, what's their beef about? The thing with female beefs, you can't even like put a pin on it to really identify why they're going. It's a Cardi B or ice spice beef. Let's hear one of these people explaining to us. Where do we have like, because I thought, yeah, I thought recently they had linked up together. Okay, let's hear this.

This is a comeback moment for me. Oh, my God, with the ads, bro. All right, just give me one second. I'm going to defer to one of the, you know, LGBTQ people who probably got the whole T on this. Because I'm trying to ask. Photos on your phone. You've probably got some photo books.

Oh, my God, another goddamn ad. Is it because I'm a guy? I miss it. But, like, it's so not overt. That's a book and... Okay, jeezing something too rich for this. Alright, you know, I'm gonna buy YouTube premium. Yeah, it's pissing me off too much.

Jay, they said they ain't want no more I, me. Lotto has like this little imaginary beef. Here we go. Get into it. So Ice Spice comes out, and not only is she talking about Nikki Minaj in this Rolling Stone interview, but she's also talking about Lotto. She's also talking about, well, she can't talk about it,

but somehow her label and released this little disc record that she has on her album. Now, before we give it to that this record, let's just talk about this little thing that she got going on with Lotto. Now, everybody, knows her and Lotto has like this little imaginary beef and they've been going back and forth with each other on different award shows on Twitter on spaces you know what I'm saying and it looks like

Ice Spice is basically letting everybody know that she really don't got no problem with her it's kind of like just friendly competition I'm gonna talk about your man and I'm gonna talk about how your man want me and I'm gonna talk about like that's what it seems like and that's what it's always given okay I'm also you know whatever she said about Lotto right here on the screen so you guys can read it but I'm only just giving my opinion for this video okay Lotto is coming out with her own album called Sugar Honey Ice Tee and she's basically channeling the whole ATL vibe and as you see Lotto I mean, Ice Spice is basically channeling the whole New York 2000s vibe. So it could be a little competition there in regards to creativity,

but both of these girls lack in both of those lanes because I don't see this really coming to life. Even Lotto's little ATL thing didn't really come to life to me. It's claimed that Nikki never had any competition, but y'all girls are competition, and y'all not able to do what you're supposed to be doing. So when Nikki tried to crown you as the princess, she was trying to keep you at a level. But now that she had to drop you, you know what I'm saying? You got to sewage your song. So I feel like it's going to really, really hurt your album because it's your first album.

And Nikki really and the barbs really gave you that steam. that we're taking away that support, I don't see it for Ice Ice Ice Ice anymore, you know what I'm saying? And now that she don't see, that she knows that the barbing on her team, in my opinion, I feel like she ran over there and she was like, you know what? The only girl that I had been black was Cardi B because Cardi B was coming out in 2022, talking about all the girls from New York where it wasn't really doing anything. You know, she was also, you know, doing the whole Annie skits and stuff like that on stage.

And I feel like that was very, very much so aimed at Ice Spice and Ice Spice kind of let roll over her roll over because she was winning at the time. And now that you don't, you know, you can get back to the bottom with other girls. You can literally now, you know, whack up for what she said. because that's exactly what she did. Now, I'm gonna play a little snippet of this, you know, unreleased song so that you guys can hear it.

Just listen to what she said about Cardi B. Think she pretty, but she's her face. It was funny so I took her place. Okay. Does anybody believe that Ice Spice took Cardi B's place? Like, I really don't even think this is that Cardi. I'm gonna be honest with you. Yo, why do they have this picture of Cardi B don't even look like this no more?

What the fuck? This gotta be a bar page. Yo, this is the thing about, like, female drama. Everybody's so into, like, they got their sides that their whole goal is to make their, keep dick riding their person, whether it's Cardi B or Nikki, then use their, it's kind of crazy, bro. Anyway, no, Ice Spice and take Cardi B's place. Cardi B, I'm going to be honest with you, I think personality-wise, she has no competition. Like, she's the only artist that is completely. surviving, not completely

because she does still put out some music, but not a lot. But the majority of her fan base survives off of feeding into her personality and her personal life. They love her. That's not Ice Spice. Ice Spice has zero personality

with all due respect to her. We just seen her on Kai's stream. Bro, it was awkward. Like, you know what I mean? I don't even think Nikki does a great job of being of like have like this great personality that people want to like other than the bars. Cardi does that, but on the other end of the spectrum is like,

it's like Ice Spice. Like, you know what I mean? No. So I don't see how Ice Spice can think that she is competing with Cardi B when Cardi B is the definition of, of, um, it's more about personality and personal shit over just rapping.

with ice spice i think people look at her as like she's like the damsel in distress she's like the beauty queen she's like the innocent girl i mean she's talking about cardi b's face she's talking about cardi b's man hitting her up allegedly wait what does she say let me see think she pretty but change her face fooling behind like bitch pick up your piece it was funny tell i took up please her man calling but i'd be like cool this i'm a squishy bitch i really do this like skin but i'm black You can talk about my hair I get money

Oh Okay, okay, okay Now I'm connecting it She said light skin but I'm black You could tell about my hair Is it that? She pretty but she's on her face Pulling behind like bitch pick up your pace

It was funny till I took a place I don't think she took a place of cardiac Of Cardi at all Her man would obviously be like who this Her man would obviously be offset But did it is offset trying to fuck Ice Spice or maybe that's a maybe that's a shot at j t right like wasn't wasn't it a rumor that that maybe

oozy was trying to you know know i mean slide up on to that i'm a squishy bitch i really do this i'm a what light skin but i'm black you can tell about my hair you say i'm light skin but i'm black you can tell about my hair now what that connects uh with to me is cardi b ice spice black there was a conversation about it right that supposedly they had like squashed their beef, but the conversation was mainly about, about what people identify with, right? I think, I think, yeah,

Dominican heritage brings them together. Yeah, Cardi was arguing with some, some, you know, one of them guys from that community type shit. and Ice Spice's name came up. It's the same reason you felt comfortable calling me a Mexican when I'm Dominican. I ask you why you feel comfortable call me a Mexican

when Ice, I think Ice Spice. And Jarrell, Jerome, Zoe Saladana are Dominican. You don't do that to them. You do it to me because that's what people used to hurt me. Same way you use my name in that video, you know what you're doing. And then Ice Spice had jumped in insane some shit. Yeah. And then they posted a picture together.

seeing the black and ice spice but not seeing the black and cardies some hater-ass shit well matter of fact my grandfather my both my grandfathers they both got green eyes and my grandmothers they're really one of them she's really like darker than me and the other one from my mom's side she's really really dark because people from the caribbean islands they all they it's like it's a mixture you know what i'm saying it's like the first places where um the first places where the where the slaves um were taken to, especially the Dominican Republic, it was one of the first

places. And people don't be knowing that shit. And then they just be so confused, and they want to dictate your race so bad. And it's like, bro, pick up a passport. Okay. So I okay, so I guess why, but why

was she just discarding? I don't know. Hmm. Let me go to another another person talking about it. Trust me, chat. I'm a little confused by all this shit.

$10 can help fund... Jesus Christ, can I stop seeing this woman, bro? Oh my God, I got to sit through it. Yo, YouTube's like punishing me right now. I got to sit through a crazy one. Oh. And subscribe and hit that bitch and also heard being exposed by her friend. I stick on to say this.

I think that the saddest part of the whole situation is someone I knew for so many years and called my friend, had me open up and be vulnerable. with them and then took complete advantage of that for her own benefit so that was the saddest part really just feeling used basically ice also went on to talk about nicky she went on to say she's busy as hell i don't really think she cares about ish like this coming from a random girl but what i said in those text was just in a moment of frustration around contract negotiations i could have chose different words but at the end of the day, regardless of how I felt in that moment, Nikki is still somebody I respect as an artist and I'm always going to admire everything

she's done for me and the culture. Ice also went on to say in the interview that she and Nikki are not the best of friends, but they are cool. There's no beast. Now, a lot of people are dragging ICE because they do believe she's using Nikki to boost her album Y2K that is dropping tomorrow, which I can. Yo, y'all Nikki fans are delusional. Yo, Nikki fans, let me say this, yeah.

And I know sometimes y'all like selectively picking what y'all take from me when I say good things about Nicky and black, oh, look, I guess right. But anytime I say something I don't like, y'all does ignore me. Nikki fans, stop being delusional, okay? Y'all only support Nicky Minaj. Okay, now, let's be honest. Y'all getting J.T. on the charts, that's not a big fucking accomplishment, okay? get JT to sell over 30,000 records, and I'd be like, damn, y'all really did some shit.

It won't happen, right? That's my whole point. That's my whole point. Nikki fans think that if, y'all think y'all like Democrats or Republicans, like, yo, if y'all get the endorsement, if I Spice gets the endorsement from Nikki, she's going to sell a lot,

and if she doesn't, no, you motherfuckers, still going to listen to it because y'all want to see if she does a Nicki on the album. Y'all not going to support any of the album. I'm not going to support any more or any less. I don't know who is inflated Nicki fans' ego to think that, you know, obviously nobody wants to beef with y'all because all y'all do is like weird Doreen stand shit, stalker shit, like really weird shit, right?

But I don't think, Ice Spice is not looking at the barbs to be like, oh, I need y'all to help me sell. Yeah, we've never seen y'all help nobody sell. That's not Nicky Minaj. And again, we're not using the likes of JT because y'all supported one song or whatever the case is. Because for JT, anything would have been a plus. We're talking about y'all getting somebody to number one. That's the difference between like a Taylor Swift fan or Ariana Grande fan and like a Nicki fan.

Sometime when they be beefing with these other little stand bases, they will support another artist so much. That person, like pull at this. Taylor Swift fans hate Kanye so much That if Kanye go competing for a number one with somebody They'll go support that other person To almost gain the number one over Kanye That's dedication Right

Nicki fans y'all are great But y'all are just Nicki fans Like y'all got to stop thinking y'all are overly important Can't agree with to a certain degree But a lot of people were asking ICE to address this And she finally did and people like By the way also let me address this too y'all deranged nicky fans that believe that the reason why i spice fell off and she didn't really fall off but the reason why her career took a little step back is because it was exposed that she was being fake with nicky please get a fucking grip that's not the reason ice spice is making the same song over and over and we do love the gyrations and the twerk wind of her fucking ass but enough enough

is enough she got to come with something new. It's the reason why she's out here faking relationships. That's what's happening. It's not because of Nikki Menaz. Stop, like get a fucking grip. Like y'all be thinking y'all are too important. No. Ice Spice also had a song with Taylor Swift, I believe.

That's what matters when it comes to Ice Spice. Taylor Swift. Didn't they have a song together? Yeah, they had a fucking song together. When you ask how to hell. When you ask, yeah, when you ask how the hell does she lose 30 or 25 million monthly listeners, most, let me tell you the whole secret about monthly listeners. Most artists gain, anytime you see fans are fans, right?

I could click up on any artist right now. Their fans are always going to listen monthly. To be a monthly listener, you need to uniquely play a single. song of that artist one time for that month. Your fans are always going to play your songs. No artist loses 25 million fans. It doesn't work like that. What happens is you did a collab and that counted as people listen to your catalog. Taylor Swift fans are not listening to Ice Spice outside of that one song. That's why over time, over the span of a year, those fans fall off of her, list of monthly listeners.

Just like this, Tori Lanes, remember during the Megan thing, he had a wild amount of monthly listeners. Why? Because he was on the remix of, what's popping with Jack Harlow. It's mad white people and Jack Harlow fans that were then listening to

Tori Lanes. Is that Tori found new fans and went up from 15 million to 30 million? No. He was on a fucking remix. That's how it works. Stop looking at monthly listeners as losing fans or gaining fans. It's a metric done by Spotify to show who is exposed to your music.

And when you do features and collabs, and those collabs go big, if you do a feature with Beyonce, let me tell you a secret. Immediately you get 10 million monthly listeners. You know why? Beyonce has millions of fans that will listen to that one song. They're not listened to you.

They don't care about you. They love Beyonce. When you collab with Nikki Menach, that's why people cross the people that do the most features for the most part I'm not going to say all because you get to the levels of like the weekend

and shit like that the weekend monthly listeners ain't up there because of features it's up there because of him you get what I'm saying he's a global icon right but when y'all keep doing the monthly listeners thing with these smaller artists and I'm no disrespect to ice but like

Ice spice let me let me put it up on the screen let me pull up on the screen for you let me look a spot I thought you knew this shit. Somebody say you're learning. What do I think monthly listeners were? Put it like this too, right?

Like, for example, right? I'll use myself as an example. I'll use myself as a fucking example, chat. Turn this on. I'll use myself as an example. The greatest artist in the world, everybody knows, little A.K., a little lack, okay?

Every month, I haven't dropped music in three years. Actually, more than three years. years. I think since 2019. So it's like four or five years, right? Damn, how's the last month I dropped this song? Yeah, Lane's, Lace was, uh, no, this is popular releases. The last one was 2020. So four years ago, I dropped my last song. I don't put out no music. I always have 50,000 monthly listeners. These are just people who listen to shit that I, I would be on. And that's, it's whatever, right? it's always going to be 50,000 something, right? Maybe over time it dwindles down very slightly.

You know when I dropped the song with 6-9 Lanes? Nick, I had a million monthly listeners. Why? Remember, me generally, like, at least when I'm putting out, it on music, maybe like 100,000 monthly listeners. 900,000 people from 6'9's fan base listen to one song of mine. I didn't have a million fans.

It doesn't work like that. Please, I've got to get off. The next time Carl Cherry's on here, I'll have him further explain it to you. But let's go to Ice Spice. Okay? Ice Spice.

What the fuck? Yeah, her album popped up first. She has 18 million monthly listeners. That's about good for... By the way, let me put down another thing in a game. You know who doesn't do collabs like a whore? NBA young boy. That's why you've never seen with 40,

million fans. Look, NBA young boy. You want to tell me young boy lit? You got 16 million monthly listeners. You know why? He doesn't do collabs. Collabs and features or creditive features are what makes people, monthly listeners go up because you're crossing fan bases. So it's taking young boy legit has 16 million fans on Spotify. Because you're not playing young boy's music for a feature. You're not playing somebody else. The only feature really has is the one that got nominated for a Grammy or whatever is the shit with the what's the guy named, Tile the Creator.

Otherwise, you're playing only NBA young boy. So if Youngboy wanted to get 40 million monthly listeners, all he would have to do is get on a song with another person that's known. And you get some of their fans. and your monthly listeners goes up. Do y'all understand of what I'm trying to say? So stop looking at monthly listeners and thinking, oh my God. And by the way, monthly listeners aren't streams.

That's another thing I got to tell y'all. Because here's the thing. Monthly listeners are unique people that have listened. It doesn't mean how much. Usually if, let's say, young boy had a song with, I don't know, Ed Sharon. So let's say now Ed Sherron, who's probably like, how many people does Ed Shearan have? That's his monthly listeners. He has 66 million.

So instantly, if it was a song that was good, it was going to be in Ed Sherry's maybe top five. 20 million of Ed Sharon's fans are going to go listen to that song at least. So now, young boys' monthly listeners is going to be 36 million. understand what I'm saying? Now here's the thing because people keep thinking those are streams. The Ed Sharon fans, those 20 million fans, only play the one song that NBA Young Boy is on. They never played nothing else in his catalog. They're like Ed Sharon. You get what I'm saying? So after that song gets played out, isn't played as much anymore, those monthly listeners for Young Boy would go back down, start trending back down to 16.

Again, most times y'all look at monthly listeners, you look at people who hoard themselves out on features. And IcePice has some big features. She had Nikki Minaj, she had Taylor Swift, those inflated her shit. Do y'all understand? This is pretty simple. It takes one stream from a fan, a unique fan.

And if you're trying to, if you care about monthly listeners, you just need to collab with people that ain't in your fan group. If you and so-and-so share 90% of the same fans, your monthly listeners ain't going to go up because their fan is your fan. But if you go collab with a Korean pop star who their fans don't listen to you, the fact that your music or even one song will get exposed to them,

your monthly listener goes up. Do I get it now? So really, I've seen Twitter run with everyone like, oh my gosh, she fell off. That's really Nicki fans. and some other hating fan bases who don't like Ice Spice. I'm not going to say her music didn't take a step back because she is kind of making the same, like the same shit.

You know what I mean? Like, yes. And even though I do call her a lyrical genius, come on. Change, shang shit. And also, it's only so long that twerk wind could distract us from the fact that there isn't high level of artistry here, right? We get it. Like, for example, let's look at sex.

Red. Look at sexy Red. Okay. Sexy Red probably don't have more than 10 million monthly listeners, genuinely. She has her biggest songs with Drake. Drake probably... Well, actually, no. Let me stop. Let me stop. Because this is why this is different. Drake been seen with this chick so much. A lot of people who bump Drake's going to bump her music. So it's not like they only listen to Only Rich Baby Daddy.

Drake got multiple songs with her. You My Everything. Yeah, I could imagine a drink. Yeah, so her shit is probably legit. But this mad, like, fraudulent, like, monthly listeners count, and it's fraudulent off the fact that you did one feature with someone that has a popping song in a different fan base, right?

I remember when Tori Lanes was bragging about this, like, you know, it was like almost at 40 million. Now it's kind of back at 22. And actually, this is pretty good for him, though. look oh by the way the color violet did really well I think this is what

this is what really helped him a lot damn Tori's music does really good little key hurts me did 219 million streams fuck what's popping was what was going crazy

and he was on the remix of that with Wayne you get what I mean so if you're an artist and you care about monthly listeners what you should do you should collab a lot with other artists that their fan bases can listen to your music it will get your numbers up

and for the people who care about that or the fan bases who care about that it will help you get in the algorithms of oh this person has a huge appeal that's all it means by the way let's speak on this and by the way monthly listeners

doesn't mean how big an artist is that's why I was trying to explain the science to it because back to what I was saying look at yeat yeat for the most part doesn't do too much features, right? So what you're normally seen with Yeet, you're seen mostly raw fan base, right?

Now, of course, he probably got some Drake shit here because, you know, Drake has, is like his second biggest song with Drake, which is on Drake's album, right? So most Drake fans are going to go play Drake's album, so if they get exposed to Yeat, that goes to Yeats' monthly listeners. I get that.

But from what I hear, most Yeats, because Yeet doesn't do so many features Yeeat compared to monthly listeners he gets the most streams per listener because most of the people who listen to Yeat are Yeat fans and Yeat fans

Thank you.