DJ Akademiks Live Streams - UMG Tryna Bait Drake with Minor Accusation? Dr Umar new scheme? Fivio Foreign vs Plaqueboymax

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So let's get into it. Let's get into it. What is this? Is this what y'all wanted me to watch? The Chicago scene rebrand this page? Let's see this. Write disclaimer under section 107. In 2018, Lilder.
Starting point is 00:00:28 All right, I'm gonna watch this, but later. Like, I love this guy's videos. I love this, like, ominous music in the background. shit's fire. It's just fine. Anyway, welcome to my people on YouTube. Sorry I kept you waiting. 42 minutes late over there, but I am here today. What's good with y'all? Hmm. Okay, the chat doesn't pop up yet. It should pop up in a second. Should pop up in a second. Yeah, we are alive though. Okay. So this is the story of Lil Durk and is going to explain the Rico. And now within a two-year span, he lost both fun and his brother. The two people,
Starting point is 00:01:09 closest to him at the scene a 40 year old man who happened to be walking out with him was also okay let me skip to where the rico kind of comes in this music video for a h h h h h h ha which dropped a month after step on was killed mike city slash gator gang is a bd set based around 86th okay they're basically saying that dirk put the guy in the video that supposedly killed a dude that killed his brother which hey listen y y'all y'all used to get at me about a war on sharp This is way more descriptive. Like, I used to watch this shit and be like, yo, this nigga, he know everything.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And Morgan, and they are allied with TTE, Daytown Entertainment, a set that used to be the same as Lamron before internal conflicts cooled a friendship. Even so, TTE and Lamron remain close. Sound. The deluxe edition included tracks like risky, where...
Starting point is 00:02:04 I'm gonna have to watch this, like, when I'm doing like a gambling stream I can put in the background, because, you know, I love watching this. video but top of the stream i don't think we could tolerate this right now arriving in los angeles the co-conspirators allegedly used o tf associated credit cards to book flights and hotel accommodations for the shooters in one reported text co-conspirator one reportedly instructed another co-conspirator
Starting point is 00:02:28 don't book no flights under no names involved with me suggesting an effort to avoid direct traceability On August 19th, 2022, The Defendants, Brown Eyes, Duda, Flaka, Vani, OTF Boogie, and an unnamed second shooter, co-conspirator 2, split into two vehicles, a white BMW and a white infinity. Their first stop was a hotel in downtown Los Angeles, where they had learned that Cuando Rondo was staying. After waiting, they spotted Rondo and his entourage leaving the hotel in a black Cadillac, escalate. The defendants followed the escalade to a marijuana dispensary on Flower Street, appearing to wait for the right moment to strike, but no opportunity presented itself. They then tell us as part of the evidence. In war about it, featuring 21 Savage, he raps about the video showing Kwan dondo screaming no, with lines like, and them people heard they man's scream,
Starting point is 00:03:30 they got to turn the sound off. Since he died, just come out. side and go to war about him. He say, no, I'm thinking he let a ho got him. He say, no, I say, let's go to war about it, where he go. You better know the more got him. Dirk also takes direct aim at Cuando in Wonderful Wayne and Jackie Boy, rapping, I think about my brothers that I lost, I'm in my feelings, it's a f-ed up that I'd rather get revenge instead of millions, and, say in my name for clout, but in them street... This is like walking through. Like we'll watch this another time. All right, people. Yeah, rest and peace, pop smoke. All right. What should we start off by talking about it initially?
Starting point is 00:04:17 Let me see what I got going on. Who and who dating? Y'all suggest some topics. This Drake lawsuit is so exhausting, people. I kid you not. OVO fans are like so upset at me. They feel like I've switched up on Drake. Like, they want me to, like,
Starting point is 00:04:41 Like basically say that this lawsuit is like the final. I'm like, what the fuck, bro? I do not understand this damn lawsuit. Sue Kendrick. That's still my thing. Anyway, we do have some more updates about what's going on with this lawsuit. And it's, you know, I think because, first of all, we don't know what's going to happen in court. We're in a discovery phase.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And I've told you all about this phase. It's all about, yo, we want these people to get deposed. We want this information that we think this person is what they call a custodian for, which means you're in charge of keeping the, or you have access to this information. And, you know, Drake is asking for a lot. He wants to see contracts. He wants to see paternity results.
Starting point is 00:05:21 He wants to see every motherfucking thing. He wants to see Spotify deals. He wants to see everything. He wants to see birth certificates, SDD results. You know what I mean? Is the kid Dave Freeze? He wants to see everything. And, you know, obviously, I think he's throwing a lot of shit at the wall,
Starting point is 00:05:38 hoping some of the sticks. We don't know how it's going to turn out in court. I've actually predicted, and I'm going to stick with my prediction. I don't think this goes to court. I think eventually both parties are going to settle. We have to think about this. I know a lot of people, you know, and this is where, like, I think, you know, obviously I'm a Drake fan, but I deviate from some of the OVO standem
Starting point is 00:05:57 because they're thinking in hive-like mentality where, like, this is the way Drake is going to win whatever. Like, no, you know what I mean? Like, I'm always going to support an artist if they felt they were wrong. wrong by the label, but the idea that the makeup for the battle or what will make everything makes sense and why the battle may have not been in the favor of Drake or seen publicly in the favor of Drake is because it will be exposed that the labels did something. I'm just sorry to say. Like, you know, I'll firmly say despite I believe Drake outwrapped Kendrick, Drake's my favorite artist. I think the culture dance
Starting point is 00:06:40 have spoken. You know what I mean? It is what it is. Like we got to be able to accept the results. So, like, I'm not living in that world, but there are some people that are hinged on this lawsuit that are, they're like, now, this is going to tell the story. Now, for me, I think this lawsuit is really all about Drake wanting his money. Like, this is, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:55 I don't think this is necessarily oh, this is how I'm going to get Kendrick. And if it was even closely to be that, I still say Sue Kendrick. So I think Drake realized that, you know what I mean? University of reversal may have, you know, may have had some incentives. He's trying to prove a theory. If it works, good for him.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Fans so invested into this lawsuit, I just don't get it. You get what I'm saying? To me, a more interesting lawsuit would have been if Kendrick was involved. But whatever. Seems like he's involved regardless by proxy because they're asking about a lot of things, including even contracts. And there was another thing that was agreed upon supposedly in court. where they're saying that they will allow for Kendrick's contract to be posted and not posted
Starting point is 00:07:48 to be seen by Drake and his team, but it will be in person that they don't have to make this document available that it gets leaked. Right. I think they said the redactions are planning property and they treat these contracts as attorney eyes only. but there's another thing, and I don't know if OVODocke is posting everything about this, but let me see. Again, I solely think this won't go to a trial. I think Drake wants his money. He's going to get some money in the agreement that they're going to re-sign a deal. I think some people have these theories that Drake is going to go independent.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I think not. I think he's going to stay with the home team, UMG. But I do think that he feels that they're playing with him. He's trying to get shit right. And again, you know, we have seen people go at their labels, whether it's Taylor Swift, who she went out not only labels, but DSPs. And, you know, it'll all get played out. So apparently Universal says accordingly, Drake's demand for an unredacted copy of Kendrick Lamar's full contract,
Starting point is 00:09:04 which, by the way, I think that's bullshit. Like, Kenjic contract got nothing to do with the battle, bro. Like, I'm just be honest with it. Got done to do with the battle. Now, I get the theory he's trying to say, like, yo, supposedly Drake, no, no, no, Kendrick signed a contract late April, like April 27th, like days or like a week before he dropped not like us. And people feel like in the contract, it probably speculates or stipulates that if he
Starting point is 00:09:28 attacks Drake and is successful, he will get maybe more. I don't think it's as facetious as that. You know what I mean? Like, bro. Like, Kendrick is exactly who he said he was, the biggest hater. I think he sat back and said, what's the most harmful thing I could say against this guy? I'm going to, by the time I'm done with this guy,
Starting point is 00:09:48 he's going to be seen as the biggest. He's going to be the EDP of the music industry. So I don't think the label was in cahoots with that or whatever. And honestly, I'm going to be honest with you. I would think that the label would think that Drake would win that battle. Like, you know, the idea that the, if you knew how dumb label people were, like, they don't know what people are going to, like, really cater to. So the idea that they're like at some desk with Kendrick or Kendrick's label or Interscope was a subsidier and saying, yes, after you drop this, he's done.
Starting point is 00:10:23 No, I think it popped off and these labels, they don't give a fuck about Drake, Kendrick or whoever. They'll sacrifice one for the other as long as they got contracts of both, right? So that's what I personally think. Now, obviously Drake thinks differently. That's all good. I'm just in a I'm in a concerned state for for fans because I think Drake fans are too reliant on this lawsuit proven something and I'm still sticking on the point it matters none and changes nothing in the battle. The only thing that will ever make the battle look different in hindsight is if Drake puts out great music and shows that despite Kendrick taking possibly not even possibly definitely his best shot. and maybe a year that wasn't the best for Drake,
Starting point is 00:11:11 Drake came back and was stronger. That's it with me. For the people who are hoping that lawyers end up winning a battle or changing the perception of a battle, the only people who really care about the nitty-gritty and ins and outs to this battle are heavy Drake fans and heavy Kendrick fans. The rest of the casuals do not care, okay?
Starting point is 00:11:30 And that's how I think. And by the way, you know what's so funny, I'm seeing the Drake fans do the same thing as Kendrick fans. Kendrick fans, when you would criticize Kendrick for him being fake woke or, you know, them reading too much into his lyrics, they were like, yo, you just don't get it. It's going over your head. Drake fans are doing the exact same thing to me now. I'm saying, yeah, I get the lawsuit, but it's still stupid and we shouldn't give a fuck. This is, when have we ever give a fuck about a man's negotiations with his label? Like, if he sues and he wins, good.
Starting point is 00:12:05 But if he doesn't, because he's not suing Kendrick. So if he's Susan wins good, if he doesn't win, whatever. But fans are like, nah, you don't get it. Drake is here to expose everything. And I'm like, brother, okay, that's what you think is going on. All right. Okay. Okay, so they said accordingly, Drake's demand for an underdacted copy of his full contract
Starting point is 00:12:27 should be denied. At minimum, the court should conduct an in-camera review, which means that, you know, they would be able to review the contract before ruling on the motion. Okay. So look like they're saying that the judge should probably look at it and be like, hey, do they need to see these things? And I think they're trying to make sure that the contract doesn't get leaked, honestly, right? Again, me personally, just being honest, I really just don't think that Kendrick's contract has anything with drink in it.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Bro, I've seen a million record contracts. like the idea that a record contract exists to say if you disdrake and call him a pedophile will give you x y z amount of money just sounds crazy but i'm just to be honest all right plaintiff demands that UMG produce an unredacted version of the document okay plaintiff also requests that UMG as did it as a custodian he signed the agreement so interscoping kensic lamar signed an agreement April 27 now i up and here's the thing sometimes it's might feel like I'm double talking, but I kind of understand in theory. I do. I understand the theory why Drake might be interested in these things. So here's how these things go.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Artists are contracted to drop music per album. They're not contracted to drop Lucy songs, just to just heat up. So when the battle starts, and essentially these are a collection of songs that are going to be on DSP because the label sees massive revenue opportunity, they might have to do what's called an addendum to his current deal to say, hey, listen, for these singles, this is how we're going to treat them, right? I think that's natural and normal. Shit, they might even have to do it for Drake, unless, you know, they might just consider all the music that Drake drops because he was in a behemoth of a deal.
Starting point is 00:14:29 My point is, you know, I'd be really shocked if you're not. I've seen that UMG included anything in Kendrick's contract that was incentivizing him to disrespect Drake, to call Drake a pedophile, or anything of the sort. And I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest here. You get what I'm saying? Like, I'm not switching up on Drake. I'm just being honest, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:54 It just sounds stupid, right? Okay. Now, here's a thing. I think Drake is playing legal games. you know his lawyers are just prying yeah of course we want to see everything right we want to know how much kendrick is getting we want to know exactly his splits right this is like a legal way of like finding some shit out you get what i'm saying um what the fuck is this do okay whatever okay so i guarantee this deal that they're talking about on april 27th was a deal that was with the
Starting point is 00:15:37 battle about how those songs were going to get released. It's probably an addendum, right? So it's like you have a licensing deal. Kendrick probably licensed maybe two albums or three albums to them. And then he doesn't have to drop any more music on Interscope outside of those albums. But he gets in a rap beat and he wants to drop like four or five songs. Because those songs are ultimately never going to live on an album, the label wants to monetize them. because they're getting a lot of traction.
Starting point is 00:16:08 They go to Kendrick. They say, yo, check this out, buddy. We want to monetize these songs, even though we know you're not going to put them on an album. Let's do some deal that kind of includes how this will be done. Now, again, you know, I'm not ruling out that maybe some, like some part of the contract says you must say fuck Drake, but like, that sounds absurd, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Okay. All right, all right. Okay, so the next thing, the next thing is supposedly UMG, I don't even know where all these documents are coming from, but they're coming out like every day. So the next thing was that UMG has came out and they're now saying that they have information about Drake or they have discovery about Drake and maybe allegations of
Starting point is 00:17:04 minors. Listen to this. This is kind of a little bit odd too. Let me see if I can find it. Now, I should go to the original thing because both fan groups are posting little tidbits of what they, you know, they want to like harp on.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Okay. Okay. So this is supposedly it. So UMG has now stated that it has, in its possession. So it's basically saying to Drake is information. The use would be. Okay. It's responding to Drake
Starting point is 00:17:43 and it's saying, hey listen, we have in our possession or custody the following categories of documents that might be used to support our defense unless they would use the, they would be
Starting point is 00:17:59 used for solely impeachment. First of all, we do have the contracts between UMG and Drake and we have contracts between the relationship between Drake and UMG, which is pretty much the same thing. We have the other recordings in Drake and Kendrick Lamar Rap feud, and the documents concerning the distribution, marketing, and promotion of all the records in the feud. They're saying the petition entitled Art on Child, Protect Black Art, that, uh, okay, they said, we have other recordings by Drake.
Starting point is 00:18:32 What the fuck? and documents concerning the same including but not limited to whatever, okay. Then this is like the important part. It says there's news reports and documents concerning
Starting point is 00:18:48 I, Drake's relationship with and behavior around minors. Two, or not I, that was one. Two, the criminal charges and conviction of Baca not nice. Three, the rap feud between Drake and Lamar, including
Starting point is 00:19:04 but not limited to the documents appended as the do-da-da-da-do. Okay. I think I should try to pull up this full document. Now, I see a lot of people saying, oh my God, they have the files on Drake, that Drake is a PDF.
Starting point is 00:19:21 What this is more likely alluding to is that they have done their due diligence or research or maybe people have even came at them with a demand letter or some type of lawsuit about Drake that could be involved in those things and they're just saying there's some information that
Starting point is 00:19:38 they might have that they could turn over that supports these I guess allegations but also supports why maybe somebody like Kendrick Lamar might say that. Let me see if I could pull this whole document up. I should do it before stream, sorry. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:04 And this is where I say like you know we've turned into politics. Like, I think Drake fans are bugging. I think Kendrick fans, they've been bugging. And really, it's not regular Drake fans. And it's not regular Kendrick fans. It's the fucking K-bots. So, like, um, it's the K-bots.
Starting point is 00:20:29 So, like, I don't believe that Universal has, like, a smoking gun saying Drake fucks kids. Like, that's, that sounds fucking stupid. But, like, a label who, just like how Drake is suing his
Starting point is 00:20:46 own label for a rap battle or for the byproducts or a song that came for the rap battle. If someone was going to try to sue drink, they would most likely, they would most likely, wait, that's a fake document? All right, well, good. I'm on pacer anyway. Oh, all right. I'm hearing that this is a fake document. You see, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Both sides are like doing dumb shit. Parties is it last? Okay. Fans have gotten so ridiculously crazy at this point. You can't trust either side. And it's kind of sad. You can't trust either side. You have to literally go find the full document yourself.
Starting point is 00:21:44 So you know what? I got the whole thing up on this computer. I'm going to pull the last couple documents. Jesus Christ. There's so much shit. There's so much shit. That's Drake that filed that. Or his team.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And what is this? I think that, yeah, that might have been a fake-ass document all I'm agreeing from. Okay. Drake has been trying to serve this guy named Kaplan. And they believe Kaplan, Kaplan and Kojo are the people
Starting point is 00:22:32 who did all the stuff to get, not like us, kind of take, yeah, I think that was a fake document. Wow. I actually feel, and that's the thing. You try to be like, you try to be a little bit like, um, fair and you realize people are just,
Starting point is 00:22:51 just really bad actors. Jesus Christ, I think it was fake, Chad. I ain't gonna lie to, wow. Yo, yo, yo, people are bad shit. If this is fake, and it kind of does look fake, because it's like, usually you would see a docket number at the top. I don't see a docket number. Let me see what I'm going to try to see if I can find it.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Wait. Hmm. Actually, it's not fake. Granted, it's not big. Wait, hold on. I'm going to put the whole thing up on the screen. You see, this is why I, like, pulling my own documents. And we're going to go through the entire thing.
Starting point is 00:23:57 As much as you know, and y'all, y'all going to be, like, your act, you're a huge drinking thing. Yeah, but when it comes to breaking out, like, court documents, you just got to be on the side of the truth, but, like, you can interpret it one way or the other, maybe because you're giving somebody a benefit of the doubt, but it is what it is. The latest document I just opened up,
Starting point is 00:24:20 I copy find or control find, and I did find those words. So, and I'm pulling this from the U.S. government site right now. So this ain't some shit I've seen on Twitter. This is, I'm going to put a whole document up right now. Here we go. It's a few seconds to come through. It's a huge file. It's taking a while to come through.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Wow. Damn, how long it take for email to come through? Okay, got it. Bingo. Okay. So we got it here. I'm about to put it up on the screen. Okay, so we got a docket number.
Starting point is 00:25:25 By the way, when you don't see the blue shit, like this is federal court. Every federal court document is going to have the case number, have a document number, when it's filed, how many pages? Now, this is more than one of three because there's a bunch of documents altogether. So this was a declaration of one of, this is Drake's lawyers, which is asking for a motion of leave to serve by a. third party. So what's happening is that there's two individuals, one name Kojo, one name this Kaplan guy, they're ducking being served, right? Drake thinks that they're the botters, okay? They're ducking service. Drake said he spent 100,000 trying to serve Kojo. At a point when you've exhausted every means to serve someone, the court could allow you to serve them by posting publicly, maybe the
Starting point is 00:26:15 newspaper or like a run it on a on a news channel or subsequently by certified mail or even I've seen them say as long as you go to the person's house and you tape it to their door um and do certified mail we're going to consider them served okay and the the point is you know a judge ain't going to sit around and let somebody duck service this whole time Drake Drake said he he spent 100,000 trying to serve Kojo and the nigga been dug it All right? Okay, so here's exhibit one
Starting point is 00:26:56 This is the plaintiff plaintiff is Drake This is the amended initial disclosures Okay All right, this is kind of bullshit We don't care about that. Okay, so this disclosure is about all the people They're interested in here are these guys, cojo Do da da, okay, good, good, good I bet
Starting point is 00:27:13 Cool, these are all the people I told you they're now interested in some rock nation people because they feel those people were involved in licensing the song to be performed at Super Bowl. Yeah, cool. So Rock Nation's added, Interscope, a lot of Interscope. Dave Frees up in here, Lucian Grains, John Janick. But they have even people from Drake's label, Monty Lipman,
Starting point is 00:27:40 and also even Avery Lipman, which they're brothers, by the way. um yeah and i think there is some spotify people that get added pretty much everybody is in their apple whatever okay so these are what they call interested parties right and they're saying these are people that might have info that's going to lead to drake getting the info to be able to follow through with this case okay so we could keep going let's keep going let's keep going yeah i'm gonna stop reliant on twitter i'm just do what i got to do here okay um um Okay, so now this is, this is the defendants. So this is defendant UMG's initial disclosures.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Okay. Wait. Okay. Now this is what, and granted, so it's not fake grant. The thing we were just reading, I guess it's from here, is B. So this is UMG, right? So UMG, they were doing their disclosures. All right, let me just roll down a little bit and make sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. These are the people representing UMG. So they submitted their disclosures and they said, here, the person's likely, it states that the following individuals likely have discoverable information that UMG may use to support his defenses. Okay. So they want to ask these guys for info as well.
Starting point is 00:29:26 They want to ask Drake. They want to ask Kendrick. You know, they want to ask all these people. So for you, for universal, they're saying, really, we as a parent company, got nothing to do with this. What who would have shit to do with this are these people. And they named all the people. And they say Drake, Kendrick, and even Anthony Saleh.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Okay. Then they say if and as the discovery progresses or otherwise appropriate, UMG reserves the right to supplement, amend, or otherwise modify the identification of individuals and entities who discoverable information including. Okay. So they're basically saying they want to be able to get information as well. Then it says copy or description by category and location of documents, blah, da, da, da, da. So based upon the information now reasonably available to UMG,
Starting point is 00:30:17 UMG states that it is in sole possession or no, it's in possession and custody and control of the following categories of documents that it may use to support its defenses unless it will be used for impeachment. So they have contracts between UMG and Drake. The document is concerned in UMG's contractor relationship with Drake. The other recordings in the Drake rap feud and documents concern the distribution. I guess they're talking about, okay, so other records other than not like us, I'm guessing they're told me. And then they know about the market and promotion. Okay, so, you know, so they didn't know about if there was any budget, use, whatever, whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Petition entitled Art on Trial, da, da, da, okay. Other recordings by Drake and documents. And they say news reports and documents concerning Drake's relationship with and behavior around minors. Hmm. You see, that's odd. And that's what I think that UMG is fighting back, right? I think they put out in their declaration in a weird way that they're almost kind of teasing like we got some shit. But it's like it's very odd to me that a label would have information.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Let's say it was whatever you want to think is true. Why the fuck would you be like, oh yeah, no, we got all the info here. Huh? Anyway. Just like, do I think they have all? all the info on Dave Free or Kendrick's kids, fuck don't, right? The criminal charges on Not Nice. So what I think they're going to, they're going to say is that they have some news reports
Starting point is 00:31:57 that would substantiate criminal convictions against Baca because I'm pretty sure you could just Google it and you'll find a news report about it. I don't think they have like some fucking hidden video. That's why I think the, the insinuation is like they have the proof that Drake did something. they start out by saying news reports and documents right they're not saying we have proof of this we're saying that we have gathered news reports right um and three the rap few did but not limited and then the affirmation of this person okay okay okay um appended as and exhibits nx so let's go down to nx we're going to go down to and exhibit nx we're going to go
Starting point is 00:32:43 down to exhibit n x so they're saying these are these records will be available at this law office and yeah they'll be transferring a data in a reasonable way so so let's go find that that thing and x let's see let's see yeah we got to keep scrolling it is a lot of legal work here man Ooh Drake got a private investigator What? What? Oh, he got a private investigator
Starting point is 00:33:41 To look for the addresses of the Kaplan guy. What? Oh shit. Drake got these niggas ducking. Okay. They emailed the nigger. That shit ain't work. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Let's keep it going. The shoreline? What is this? Damn, they got this nigga court eviction up on this bitch. What the fuck? They got his lease? Oh my God. So, oh, he was paying $36,000, 660 for rent?
Starting point is 00:34:32 Yo, this is some diabolical shit, man. Oh, man, this is fucking crazy. All right, a bunch of shit. That's all this lease information, exhibit B. Okay, this is some other shit. Damn, they want this Kaplan, they go bad. Who's, who's Kaplan? I got to find his social media.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Maybe I know him or something. Ah, damn. I'm still trying to find some shit, but I can't find, I can't find, I can't find, oh, I can't find that exhibit that they were talking about. Let me, let me look for it over here. Sorry, Chet. I'm looking for, this is the exhibit with, they say they got some shit on Drake, right? All right, so that wouldn't be it.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Okay. So, I mean, listen, according to UMG, they're saying that they have news reports, right? And I don't know if we could Google and find news reports. Toronto News, Drake. Like, we've never seen a news report about Drake and minors. Right? Is it like, so I'm pretty sure they're going to take, like, maybe a blog post, maybe a post about maybe him messaging. What's that girl named Billy Bobby Brown?
Starting point is 00:36:20 Maybe those are the things that they're talking about. But it doesn't seem like they have like, oh, we got them, y'all. We got them. Like, it don't seem like that, right? Like, I can't even remember. Yeah, I can't even. Yeah, I've never seen a report that Drake been with kids and all like that. I've never seen that.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Yeah, I've never seen some shit like that. Hmm. What the fuck is this? Oh, everybody named Mama running this. Yeah, so I guess this thing is. UMG law unions, bro. Applicable foreign privacy. Two weeks ago, his representative
Starting point is 00:37:15 celebrated a win. Okay. Yeah, so if you ask me, this is so, like, vague. Of course, Kendrick fans, because they're extreme, they're going to be like, yo, they got to prove that Drake is fucking kids. And of course,
Starting point is 00:37:33 Drake fans are going to be like, nah, that's just fake. That's just AI. You know what I mean? Like, but they're claiming that they do have some bullshit but we don't know what it is right we don't know what it is if you ask me
Starting point is 00:37:50 I'd probably think it's just they would probably say hey listen if Kendrick claimed that Drake likes kids he didn't make this up he probably legit believed it because there were rumors
Starting point is 00:38:08 floating around or maybe he saw the Millie Bobby Brown thing or the 17-year-old on stage thing. I think that's what they're kind of getting at. But of course, fans are jumping out of the wind. That's what I'm saying, yo, I definitely don't see this get to trial, but still, fans are jumping out of the window, like, oh my God, they have, like, some hidden documents that Drake fucks kids.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And of course, that's going to go into the conspiracy theory of, like, the label has, like, these predator-petophile files, Epstein files of Drake that they're forcing him to stay in a contract. then if that was true, why would Drake follow a lawsuit? You get what I'm saying? Like, why? You know what I mean? Like, you'd want that to be hidden, not to be, to be profoundly mentioned in a lawsuit that your label has this on you. So I'm going to assume, and shit, you know, that's my guy, so maybe I'm just giving the benefit of that.
Starting point is 00:38:59 But I think it's not even giving the benefit of that. I think it's not even giving the benefit of that. Things are obvious. I think they're saying that the discoverable evidence that they have is news reports that have insinuated, stated or alleged certain things about Drake before Kendrick said it. And it's not some, oh, they have a girl that said this, that never came out, and the label has a video. No, I don't think so, bro. I don't think so. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Bro, this thing is exhausting, man. And the Drake fans, your Drake fans mad at me. Kendrick fans, let me, let me pull up the chat here. Let me see what are y'all, what are y'all saying about this? Somebody says it's probably scary tax. Yeah, I think they're going on the offense, right? You know, Drake is kind of hitting on a conspiracy theory. Like, Lucian, you were at the crib, plotting with Kendrick to call me a pedophile to lower my renegotiation leverage.
Starting point is 00:40:32 And then you did this and da-da-da-da-da-da. That's kind of what Drake is saying. And I think UMG, they're about to enter the territory saying, yo, Drake, you know we could play dirty too, right? You know we could almost make vague, like vague theoretical statements that every blog, because they do know every blog is picking us up. And this thing is a huge thing that's being discussed daily on social media. We're going to now go on offense and be like, nigga, why the fuck you over here mad at us? we ain't the one who's thought this shit about you and kids this shit been going on
Starting point is 00:41:12 they're almost going on office I think the next thing they're going to go in office with Drake about is yo watch oh we've investigated your numbers at time because UMG is not going to claim that it did nothing right and even if something was done it was always going to be
Starting point is 00:41:29 to a third party so it's never going to be their hands are always going to be clean trust I think at some point they're going to look at Drake like hey shit we invest to get your shit too because we thought you was faking i think that's how they're gonna try to get at drake to be like yo whatever you're trying to accuse you look crazy too somebody said watch what's the dirt all right let me watch what's the dirt let's say what's sometimes i can't tell if i'm giving this too much um too much shit all right guys so
Starting point is 00:42:04 or like too much attention or and i'm dragging it or this is what the conversation is right now So this Drake UMG lawsuit is starting to take shape and the whole thing is looking to be... Oh, by the way, thank you for the 50D. He says, nobody give a fuck about what a few black folk can Kelly think about Drake. I might be the only black person who likes him. Won't hinder his successes at least. I hate the culture. I hate the culture. Hopefully Battlewrap dies with his lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:42:30 They mad they can't make a hit without sneak this in. Okay. Thank you. Pretty damn fishy. Recently, we got some new updates with respect to the discovery phase. And while I'm not covered... most of that in this video, I wanted to point out some really important things. First, what you guys need to know is that UMG as a business has been going through a significant
Starting point is 00:42:52 transformation since the beginning of 2024. There have been a lot of layoffs, a lot of big promotions, employees have been quitting, and massive changes have been going on. They're restructuring a lot. Like, these are not small changes. Historically, the way things worked at UMG was you had Lucian Grange running the show at the top. Then on the East Coast we had Republic Records, Def Jam, and Island Records, all of which had a bunch of smaller labels underneath them, but ultimately Republic was the big player, and that was ran by Monty and Avery Lipman.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Then we got the West Coast labels. On the West, we had IGA, which is Interscope, Geffen, and A&M, and then we had Capital Music Group, which all had smaller labels underneath them, but ultimately Interscope was the big player ran by John Janick. And even though they fall under UMG, like the East Coast and the West Coast are in competition. When it came down to which coast was more profitable,
Starting point is 00:43:52 John Janick and Monty Lipman went up against each other for years to try and earn that number one spot. In the corporate world, they're both climbers, right? So the goal at the end of the day is to take Lucy and seat. With that said, Republic has always dominated and a major reason for that is because they have Drake and Taylor Swift. In fact, every year besides 2020, John Janick of Inderscope has lost to Monte Litman of Republic. This is a huge deal when it comes to which guy ultimately takes over the reins when Lucian leaves.
Starting point is 00:44:26 The board of directors look at a lot of different things, but performance metrics and profitability are at the top. Based on performance metrics, Monty Lipman is clearly the man for the job. And Lucian Grain said himself that he loves the internal competition that happens within the company because it ultimately makes people work even harder. The competition within our own company in signing and developing artist is no accident. It's by design. At the same time, our culture never lets our in-house competition become destructive. Our executives never forget that we're all part of the same UMG team.
Starting point is 00:45:02 So the culture at UMG of the East, battling against the West, Monty against Janick, like that's by design and that's something they're proud of. However, Lucian was about to drop a bomb and that happened on February 2nd, 2024, when he announced that both John Janick and Monty Lipman were getting massive promotions and that a big restructure was coming. Then it was just a month later where we learned exactly what these big changes were. On March 12, 2024, Lucian Grange handed full control of UMG's labels to two people, John Janick on the West Coast, and Monty Lipman on the East Coast. Now on the West Coast, all the major labels,
Starting point is 00:45:41 Interscope, Geffen, A&M, and Capital were merged into a single company called ICLG with John Janick running the show. On the East Coast, the exact same thing happened. Def Jam, Island, and Republic were grouped together under one umbrella called Republic Corps, led by Monty Lipman. So now it's even more competitive because both Monty and Janick,
Starting point is 00:46:05 now they've got more responsibility and more power. So like now is time to, now is really time to prove yourself. And at this point, heads started the role where massive layoffs came into effect. UMG had previously announced that because of this restructuring, they could save $270 million a year. These big changes also ruffled the feathers of some very heavy hitters. Michelle Jublier, who was the CEO of Capital Music Group, didn't seem to like the idea of John Janick being her new boss,
Starting point is 00:46:38 and she resigned the moment his promotion was announced. Then Arjohn Prugel, who was the vice president of Capitol Records, also quit. Cindy McCabe, CEO of UMG and Nashville, also announced that she will be quitting, and that came just five days after the Monty and Janick promotion. Then we saw high-end executives who held various positions across the labels get laid off. I'm not going to name all the people, but like these are high executive positions. Like these aren't just anybody. These guys got hefty salaries.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Like big cuts are being made. Anyways, on March 12th, all these changes take place. Janick and Lippman are now the kings of their respective coast. And what do you know? 10 days later, Kendrick fires his shot on the like that record. Mother fuck the big three. Nica, it's just big me. When it comes to Kendrick Lamar, he is one of John Janick's biggest stars on
Starting point is 00:47:33 interscope dating back as far as Good Kid Mad City. In fact, all of Kendrick's albums were released under Janick and he was heavily involved in Kendrick's career. In the case of Drake, he was on the other side with Republic. Not only was he one of the main reasons for over a decade and why Janik struggled to clinch the number one spot, but Drake's contract was coming to an end and the writing was on the wall that he might be leaving. For that reason, tensions were likely all already pretty high between Monty Lipman and Drake. And these were the ingredients that came together that made for a perfect storm. Kendrick closed out his deal with TDE and Aftermath Interscope two years prior with Mr. Morrell being his last project.
Starting point is 00:48:20 It was from that point forward where Kendrick was considered 100% independent under his own label PG-Lang. It really seems like the like that verse from Kendrick, that was an independent release. However, all that was about to change as Drake took the bait dropping pushups on April 13th and tailor made on April 19th. And for some unknown reason, Kendrick, the guy that can allegedly whip up a disc track in no time flat, was completely ghost. And now we know why that was. It turns out the savior of hip-hop and all things culture wasn't about to involve himself in a rap battle without a new shiny deal in place with his good old pal John Janick at Inderscope. records. You guys do remember John, right? You know, the guy that got like the big promotion. He's like trying to be number one and shit. No? Kendrick knows I'm really good. That's right. On April 27th,
Starting point is 00:49:14 2004, Kendrick put pen to paper and signed a deal with PG Lang and licensing through Interscope and three days later, Euphoria dropped. But don't tell no lie about me and I won't tell truth about you. So basically the reason why it took the reincarnated version of Tupac 17 days to respond was because he was in cahoots with John Janick and Inderscope discussing the best path forward so that they could both weep the benefits from the moment. Before the beef, Kendrick was cold as ice and the newly promoted John Janick was willing to do whatever it takes to not just bring Drake down, but to prove himself. But this is where it gets extremely interesting.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Kendrick dropped four disc records into Beef Against Drake. Euphoria, 616 in LA, Meet the Grams, and Not Like Us. After that, he dropped the GNX project, but this is the major difference. All three of the disc records that were added to DSPs were licensed directly from Kendrick Lamar to Interscope Records, but the GNX project was licensed from PG-Lang to Interscope Records. Why are the three disc tracks different? That's probably why Drake's legal team is very eager to look into Kendrick Lamar's contract with Interscope, and that's probably why UMG has heavily redacted information from it.
Starting point is 00:50:37 And this is the smoking gun, right? Because that tells me that in that contract that he signed, those three discracks, there has to be something about the battle in the contract because those three records had a different agreement. Remember in my breakdown of Drake's Iceman episode. Yeah, I agree with him, but, um, this happens all the time. I know Drake B from UMG,
Starting point is 00:51:04 100 million percent there's an addendum for him dropping a collab album with party next door. That's what happens. When you drop music outside of the original schedule of albums or music that you agreed on, you have to make sure, and again, you know, I'm still not saying smoking gun, you know why?
Starting point is 00:51:24 Let me just put this in perspective. Whoopty-doo, an artist, that is about to release a bunch of Lucy records realize I want to get paid from him. Yes, Kendrick's a capitalist, despite whatever he tells you. I want to get paid from them. I'm going to go sign a deal for every record
Starting point is 00:51:42 that I'm going to go sign. I'm going to drop in this battle. That, that's the music business. It's like, yeah, of course he's going to do a deal for all the records he drops. So two, where we focused head. heavily on the Pinocchio character. I brought up how in the Disney movie
Starting point is 00:52:07 a fox named Honest John leads Pinocchio in the situations with massive promises, but it ultimately ends up being a trap. Great to the top, why I can see your name in lights. Now, I do think once a dirt has this analogy or like symbolism on point.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I do think what Drake is alluded to with this Pinocchio character is a huge symbolic, representation of what he believes happened and occurred. Light six feet high. And I said that honest John the Fox is John Janick and then Kendrick is Pinocchio. He's the puppet. And this is one of the main reasons why Drake's legal team are looking into how much John
Starting point is 00:52:51 Janick could benefit when it comes to bonuses and compensation. When you look at the specific people who are listed in discovery for this lawsuit, it's very clear that Drake's legal team are heavy on seeking documentation from Interscope. That's where the magic seemed to happen, and with the subpoena of Kojo, they are going to find that bots were used because that was part of what he did in marketing. It's probably going to be pretty difficult for him to hide. On the Republic's side, it really seems like Drake is saying that they could have stopped the defamatory material, but why would they do that if Drake's contract is ending or he's possible?
Starting point is 00:53:31 possibly leaving anyways. The battle acted as a win-win for both sides. However, that bag in Iceman episode two represents evidence that Drake seems to already have. In the middle of all that, we have Kendrick, who was really just a pawn or puppet in their game. What makes the whole thing all the more hypocritical is the fact that Kendrick went out of his way in the battle
Starting point is 00:53:55 to separate himself from the industry. But the industry's cooked as I picked the carcass of pun. The more I've learned about this guy, like he's nothing what he portrays to be. And that's what this lawsuit's going to expose. Like, it's really going to expose how fake he is. Drake doesn't care about offending the culture of hip-hop with this lawsuit because the lawsuit is going to expose that this whole thing was anything but hip-hop. Signal conversations where I hope they got double encryption.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I hate to see the empire crumble on judges' convictions. Um, okay. Okay. Yeah, so I feel like anytime I give a pain on this, when people don't hear what they want, they think that, oh, no, no, act is just, not, I just defend the labels or whatever. Yeah, you'd be very surprised how much, like, you know, I'm going to be honest with you. Like, like, respectfully speaking. And I actually believe Lucian. And I'm not, I'm not even trying to, like, make these guys look crazy. You know I know Lucian son Elliot
Starting point is 00:55:20 Bro these niggas don't listen to hip hop man If you think a bunch of old white dudes Is listening around to hip hop my nigga If you think if you think Lucian is like Not like bro I believe the nigga He's never heard this song till it dropped These guys don't really listen to music bro
Starting point is 00:55:35 They're business people They don't I guarantee hip hop Don't even play in their house I'm telling you how the truth I know Elliot used to call me Because he'd be like your act Is this hot
Starting point is 00:55:48 he's a British dude You know they're from Britain right Like UK These things are not like some Not like if you hear them talk You ever heard these people talk? They're not like some niggas They hire niggas to find out what's hot
Starting point is 00:56:04 Now here's the thing Of course you're going to go at the boss clearly I'm not saying they shouldn't get gone at What I'm saying is that If there is going to be a conspiracy I don't think your reason is that far I really don't. I think it's the lower level dudes who have some,
Starting point is 00:56:25 I don't even think it reaches to Monty Lipman, right? I think it reaches to some powerful people in the label. But if you want, if you want to, if you want to, like I know fans are going to sit here and think like really they're bumping, I guarantee if you had a gun to, Lucian Grange's head and tell him to name three songs off of Drake's last two albums I promise you he can't name not three
Starting point is 00:56:57 I guarantee he can't name three bro it's the president of UMG conglomerate that owns 277 labels yes Drake's a big part but he's not listen first of all Drake don't go to the label and play his music Kendrick don't do that either
Starting point is 00:57:17 they just turned their shit in and that's what's going to happen then people work it now did people work in it put it to the highest priority they try to do whatever tricks and whatever they got to whatever but the idea that these motherfuckers know these records hell no i'm telling you i guarantee lucian grains can't name three songs off of drake's last two albums for all the dogs and some sexy songs you can't name three songs I guarantee. Right don't listen to music like that man nigga. Now, somebody said Lucian knows everything going on
Starting point is 00:58:11 no Again, I'm not I'm not gonna shit on Maybe the idea that there might be a conspiracy I'm gonna say The idea that Um
Starting point is 00:58:25 Lucian Monty and I'm not protecting them You could sue them all day I don't give a fuck Yo Lucian son Elliot used to bring me in the office Went to play 6'9 and trippy records To kind of feed off of me to be like This shit hot
Starting point is 00:58:49 They don't know what's popping You think some old white dude Yo like with all due respect to Lucian And I met Lucian before Bro Lucian is old Bro if you think Put it like this You think a 65-year-old
Starting point is 00:59:04 British guy? I'm telling you, he sounds British. His son is, yo, so I'll give you a little bit more about Elliot. This is Elliot right here. Bro, Elliot came from the UK, like maybe two years or a year before he signed six, nine. You know, he was trying to build a little independent label.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Bro, you think he know about Brooklyn drill rap? Fuck no. Hell no. If you think, like, he's not his. tapped in is that he knows business it's not tapped in like that these guys hire the people who they think are cool to do whatever so what does that mean and what am i saying they're not the people that're going to be sitting with you and you playing a this on like nah this is one i call him a certified pdf they're gonna fuck the whole game up and and lucian is bumping they're like oh shit yeah
Starting point is 00:59:56 Yeah, yeah. No. So when he says he only heard it when it came out, I agree. That I definitely agree. These niggins don't really listen to music like that. You get what I'm saying? And that's where I say the conspiracy goes, it falls below a bit, right? So who would be in the know when it comes to that?
Starting point is 01:00:36 It might be somebody at Interscope. it might be somebody at a republic. But it's not up to those levels. Now, granted, I understand why you sue, like, I'm not going to sue the regional supervisor of McDonald's. I'm going to sue the CEO of McDonald's. You get what I'm saying? But I'm telling you that the whatever conspiracy,
Starting point is 01:00:59 if it exists, don't exist that high because these niggas, they probably only, they probably did have some meat. about not like us after the song got big but were they involved with the plot and yo oh this the one fuck no hell no hell no you these guys are out of touch like no disrespect to them and i rock with them i rock with them when i met elliott eliot had some secret service type of nigga that was his bodyguard and i was like what the fuck yes them executives have secret service bodyguard in case rappers want to act the fuck up some navy sealed dude, the dude just standing there the whole time.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Like, yo, that's how it works. But does he know, I'm not disrespecting him, hopefully, like, does he know music? Whatever 6-9 or, he's signed Ice Spice to, right? Like, whatever Ice Spice would turn in, that's what it is. Whatever trip he'd turn in, that's what it is. He has, he hires young dudes, though. He hires cultural people. Those are the people who, you know?
Starting point is 01:02:22 Anyway. No matter what I say, some people are going to be like, nah, no, you, so again, you know, I'm not saying that they can't be a conspiracy. If you think of 65-year-old niggas listen to Not Like Us and plotting with Kendrick, fuck no. Okay. And honestly, the way how shit goes,
Starting point is 01:02:48 I'm pretty sure that even John Janick didn't probably realize that it was going to get that big either. Now, did they make moves after it started getting traction? Probably, yeah. Probably, yeah. But, you know, I'm a little bit skeptical of the conspiracy theory before then. Okay. I think we're going to get What's the Dirt on here?
Starting point is 01:03:13 Let me see. Where are you at? Yo, Grant, Colbert, What's the Dirt, please? Is he on? Okay. So when I said, they think that the contract negotiations take two weeks to complete? Nigger, whatever deal he signed for this was definitely the deal for the battle. That's a fact.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Hey, I'm going to drop a collection of songs that are going to be monetized and licensed in this way. Grant, I see a call. Okay, okay, okay. Here we go, here we go. You know, why Grand started this call. Entitling UMG. Yo, it was good. Wait, I can't hear you.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Watcherby? You can't hear me? Oh, now I can. Now I can. Now I can. Yeah, you can hear me. What's good, man? I'm chilling.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I'm chilling. Hold on. Let me. I'm going to put both of us on here. All right. Here we go. Streaming late. You're streaming late these days, eh?
Starting point is 01:04:45 Shit. I got to get back on a better schedule, man, because, like, last night I was on to, like, four. I'm trying, like. I know. I'm trying to be respectful of people's time, too. So, like, you know, I'm trying to fix my schedule without missing a day
Starting point is 01:04:59 because sometimes that's what happens, you know? Let's see. Bingo! Yeah, yeah. I get it, man. I'm just trying to get in. Yeah. Anyway, yo, then I was watching a video.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Listen, and by the way, here's the thing, too. I do want to tell people, what's the dirt is my guy? We're not also going to agree on everything. And this is where, you know, we could have, like, you know, some critical, like, you know, okay, I agree with that. This one I'm not too sure about. And I think this is how you just be a fair content creator. Now, obviously, you're going to have some bad actors out there who, like, they're just diametrically opposed to everything.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Or there's going to be like, you're this guy's a liar. He's whatever. So first question is, how have you been doing? I've seen that the K-bots have taken aim at you. They have turned you into, they probably think you're now a drink puppet. I've seen them start doing a whole thing with the Happy Dad thing. They're like, yo, by the way, my Happy Dad shit right here. You know what they said?
Starting point is 01:05:56 They said Drake founded Happy Dad. They said Drake founded Happy Dad to pay us. What do you say that? It's crazy what they spin, bro. I just made the whole connection. It's like, bro, all it takes is a Google search, bro. One little Google search. And you could see that Drake is not affiliated with Happy Dad.
Starting point is 01:06:14 He doesn't have stake in it. He doesn't have ownership in it. It's just because he took a picture with Kyle with like a Happy Dad jersey. And they just, yeah. But yeah, they're on my ass, bro. They're definitely on my ass. I've been going through that for a year now, bro. That's what has been, right?
Starting point is 01:06:29 That's the way it's been. So anyone who's even a little... Like, the moment things... Because, so when I first found out about you, you're doing these, like, really dope breakdowns, which, by the way, I think one of the Ws that came out of this rap battle was having people really look beyond just surface-level shit and connect dots.
Starting point is 01:06:52 And we get to find out, and no pun intended, Like people like Kendrick was always leaving a trail of bread crumbs, but even Drake, they were always alluding to things that, again, it would miss you on first listen. And then if you really connected, you're like, oh, this guy has been touching on this issue for a long time. You did a great job doing that. You know, I think, you know, maybe other people did it, but you obviously were the leader among that. But you were doing it for both artists. At a point, it felt like people were like, you know, this thing is biased to shit now. Like, you know, like they just started attacking you.
Starting point is 01:07:25 What happened and when it happened? A lot of shit happened in between that point and this point, right? It got to the point where if I was covering Kendrick, like, basically they twisted a lot of shit that I would say. And they started calling me racist and they started calling me a vulture. And at a certain point, like, it was very clear that the Kendrick fans absolutely hated me. I've always been a Drake fan. I'm from Canada. I'm riding out for Drake anyway.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Hey, I remember one breakdown you did, and I think it was the Kendrick thing. And they were like, yo, this guy is, yo, this is like our guy. Like, he's showing how smart Kendrick is. Now, here's a thing. You had to do a breakdown for Drake. And as soon as you're like, now, Drake shit is deep in layer two. They were like, what? You get this fucking fraud out of here.
Starting point is 01:08:18 That's exactly what happened, bro. And they twisted a lot of my shit too, right? And no, you're right, they completely flipped when it came to that point. And then I had two records left to do because that family matters, I stopped. I was like, okay, I got all that backlash. I was like, you know what I'm done with, I'm done breaking any, I'm not even going to do Kendrick's shit. In hindsight, I feel like I should have did it. I feel like if I could go back in time, I would have did it.
Starting point is 01:08:40 I think that was a mistake. Well, first of all, I think you had gotten backlash because I think you had said something about, like, I forgot what it was, these little bitch-ass niggies, like, you know, first of all, you had a lot of people jealous of you. That's the thing. I've seen a lot of YouTubers who they've been moving around. I call them the, you know, I call them the, the, the 10,000 club. Like, they drop 4,000 videos and each of them get like 12,000 views. And you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:08 And they're always like, why am I not the guy getting hundreds of thousands? And they see you and your views are going through the roof. And all of a sudden, they take that to be like, yo let me just start hating on this guy so I think there's a lot of hate but um I think I forgot what you had said what's something about like
Starting point is 01:09:29 well there's there's two factors too right so it was me breaking down to Kendrick record speaking in the favor of Drake uh like you said giving more depth to some of his shit people didn't like that right off rip they didn't like me saying bad things
Starting point is 01:09:44 about Kendrick but then uh me and Justin Hunt had our thing back up for it right Yeah, yeah. And I said some things there. And that's really where it blew to fuck up, right? That's really where it blew up. I think you say he was talking like a nerd, like, like Carlton or whatever, some shit. And then they were mad at you saying you're racist.
Starting point is 01:10:02 And then Anthony Fantano came out. And he's just saying the hard he are. And they're like, dang, racist. That's shit normal. I don't know, bro. He's kicking it with the guys that are like, like, yo, that's making fun of the trip. But whatever, you know. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Let's kind of, you know, jump up to speed a little bit. The lawsuit. It's the talk of the town. I want to know your personal thoughts about it. And I've seen you really starting to even trying to connect the dots on that. Where are you with everything? So the first video I ever did about the lawsuit is the one you just watched. I've never done a video on it before.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Because I first off, I always found it pretty boring. And in the beginning, I was very much against. Like, because you know how people, like, I think people think people are just hating on Drake and it's just Drake hate about the lawsuit. But I feel like it's a lot bigger than that because it really is anti hip hop if we're being real. Like I know he's suing UMG, but without the disc record, the lawsuit wouldn't exist. The lawsuit is about the lyrics at the end of the day, right? Yeah. And everything around it.
Starting point is 01:11:13 So when people are getting up in arms about it. I mean, I can't blame them for feeling that way. On the other side of things, I feel like Drake just really wants to clear his name, bro, because Drake, Drake content is in my algorithm. So anytime I go on Facebook, TikTok, Twitter, wherever,
Starting point is 01:11:31 every day I'm seeing thousands of comments, calling Drake a pedophile. And thousands, every day. This has been going on for over a year. So I try to put myself in his shoes, bro. I want to fucking clear my name, man. I really will when it comes to that, whether he sued Kendrick, UMG, whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:52 So when I think about if what Drake is saying is actually true, if they really did conspire against them, if they really did cook this, if they really tried to bring them down, if they did this all on purpose, I feel like that all deserves to be exposed. And I think a lot of people would support Drake bringing down the industry had it not been tied to a battle.
Starting point is 01:12:13 And I think that's what people are struggling with. I see both sides. I'm somewhere in the middle. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Game is game. Thank you for the 20.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Let me see what she said. Yeah, I don't like the lawsuit at all, man. I think she's a Sue Kendrick. And I don't mind him suing the labels, you know, because some people feel like I'm like super pro labels. Like, I've always talked shit about labels. And then I would talk shit about them and said, they can't go around me so they need me.
Starting point is 01:12:44 So it's like, it's not like I'm over here needed them to protect them. I don't do two fucks. You know what I mean? But for me, kind of looking at it, it does get super boring when you're like, okay, sue the labels, but we all know who said the shit. The dude lied on you. You're clearly not a pedophile.
Starting point is 01:13:06 The guy popularized his idea. Sue him. And I would think very differently about the lawsuit if Kendrick was sued directly. It's already anti-hip-hop. Yeah, like I don't think there's any dispute for that. I don't think there's any dispute for saying that it's like, you know, hip hop was built on free expression, bro. So I do think it's a slippery slope when you introduce lyrics and you're basically saying that those lyrics caused like punishable harm of some sort, right?
Starting point is 01:13:36 And me, that's one side of it. On the other side of things, if this thing goes through, which I know you said you don't think it will. I don't think it will either. I don't think it will either. But if it did go the test of time And we're talking about payola And the inner workings of the industry And all this stuff
Starting point is 01:13:52 If all that stuff came out It probably There probably will be some good that could come from that part Right? No No You know more than me Well the reason why I say no is that
Starting point is 01:14:04 Listen I keep telling people The music business is a place Right And again I know when I'm speaking Some people think I'm really speaking
Starting point is 01:14:14 Like I'm some UMG show Like, no, I'm telling you how the music business is built. The idea of a business being constructed around music is the idea that, first of all, to have a hit song is, it's catching lightning in a bottle, is rolling a die, right? It's a very low percentage on every time you put out a record. To build a business that's built on chance, right, is always going to be incredibly risky. and this is why you see it with the contracts. The reason why artists are in trash contracts is because this is a business built on risk.
Starting point is 01:14:52 It's not a profit first or, oh, as soon as we're with you, we're in the, a lot of times, if you look at a profit loss sheet for a label, they're in the red for the majority of artists and only in the black for a couple. And the ones that they are in the black for, that's the ones that are paying for the others. So here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:15:14 The music industry, no matter what Drake does. And this idea like, first of all, I'm a streamer. So, of course, I want to talk about everything. So I don't mind the lawsuit from that perspective. But the idea that one man could kill the recording business is absolutely ludicrous. This is a multi-billion dollar business that is built on collusion. And I will say that and say that again. It's a reason why UMG owns part of Spotify.
Starting point is 01:15:41 It's a reason why they have all these relationships. It's a reason why they make sure that they own that 85% of the generated revenue that comes from catalog. UMG owns and they only license. They do not sell. They don't even want to sell it. They wouldn't sell Kanye West's back his own catalog. You know why? Because after they cracked the music game by being able to steal it with MP3 files, this and third,
Starting point is 01:16:10 the leverage that the music industry owns is the fact that they own the catalog. They could make Spotify bent to their whim. They could make Apple Ben to their whim. And that's their way of we're going to use our leverage to straighten out the game. Okay. Now, with all that being said, again, yeah, even if, let's say there's Payola, right? Let's kind of go down. First of all, payola is something that's only going to be punishable due to the,
Starting point is 01:16:40 government stepping in. They have money and insurance just to pay that shit off. You get what I'm saying? So, no matter even if we found out that they did a bunch of payola for Kendrick, you're not ending the music industry. Even if they did it for Kendrick,
Starting point is 01:16:56 I think UMG would get petty at that point. They'd be like, no, we did it for Drake too. If they're going to admit it, they'll come out with a disclosure and we did it for both. It doesn't matter. That doesn't end the music. There's nothing that ends the music industry. It's like Live Nation. Like, I'm pretty sure some people thought, well, look at what happened to the Travis Scott thing.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Live Nation and festivals are done. You think so? I thought Live Nation would never work with Travis Scott again. Yeah, right. Did you watch that that fucking documentary? They're making too much money. They're printing money. They control an entire ecosystem that they own the venues.
Starting point is 01:17:31 This is an almost like monopolistic way of an entire sphere of business. When it comes to music and it's going to be a part. of entertainment, you can't get around labels. And until, like, the idea that Drake could take down the labels sounds only legit to an idiot when you don't, when you realize that UMG owns 80% of Drake's catalog and 80% of Kendrick's catalog. And they'll never give it back, ever. So how the hell are you going to take down the shit that we built when we, we
Starting point is 01:18:10 own you. You're taking yourself down. So the point that people think that they could take the labels down, listen, Michael Jackson couldn't do it. Nobody could do it. Drake can't do it. Shit, I think Taylor sometimes have them on their toes, but even Taylor can't do it. This is a multibillion dollar
Starting point is 01:18:26 business and yeah. Yeah, I think I just saw what you were talking about with Lucian too, right? And I kind of agree with you. I don't think he actually knows. I don't think he really is that privy to all this shit that was going on if it was going on, right? I really think what him, all they're trying to find is just on the defamation side of it.
Starting point is 01:18:47 They're just looking for any piece of info, email, text message, anything that proves that he knew about not like us before it was published. I think that's all they're trying to get him for. Because I don't think. You got to twist his hand to get everybody else. If you really want to know the people who, first of all, you know UMG is pointing their fingers at their own employees, right? If you go to the disclosure that they filed, and they named.
Starting point is 01:19:10 their own employees. And by the way, they had told Drake before when he did the petition, he said, they said, bro, we're not protecting nobody. Sue Kendrick. Sue that motherfucker. You know what I mean? So again, UMG and the board of directors, their own, their only goal is to protect themselves, right? This is a publicly traded company that is ran by board of directors. And they're, they're down to point and throw people in their own company under the bus if there's any foul play. They're setting it up now. Lucian, Lucian is saying. the UMG head is saying is basically, yo, if there was info that could either help absolve us or help prove your point, these are the niggins that would know. What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:19:53 These are the suspects if we were trying to investigate. Exactly. So. Exactly. He's just going to wipe his hands of it and say, look, like, if this did play out, I think that's what it would be. It would just be like, this is just a couple executives that went rogue. Like, you know, like I, these guys did the shit, right? No, of course.
Starting point is 01:20:10 That's what it would be. Yeah, of course. So the only thing I push back on is I do believe, like, you know, I think any good conspiracy theory always gets a lot of people to bite in because now you have something to work off. This, there is a great conspiracy theory with this. I just don't think your reach is up to where like we're saying with Lucian. Now, if it was to, if it was something where they're trying to do something to Spotify, Like on a company to company level?
Starting point is 01:20:42 Oh, yeah, Lucian's in that. Oh, of course. But a rap battle, I'm like, bro, I've been around. Yo, these, like, people don't realize that these executives we're talking about, they're pushing 40 and 50. They listen to jazz at home. Okay? They have two and a half kids in a picket fence and one dog.
Starting point is 01:21:02 They don't, they're not going home listening to King Vaughn. They don't, you think they're in their crib like, we're going to be all right? Fuck no. You know who's actually bumping that? It's going to be the people at Interscope. It's going to be the people that's in the urban division at Republic. You get what I'm saying? And I think that's where we're going to find if anybody did something shady.
Starting point is 01:21:24 And also, like, I've said this publicly before. The reason why also UMG is going to stand on whatever they're going to stand on, any bullshit that was done, this, labels has been this for years. They contract third party companies. So I guarantee you won't find Universal signing a check saying here is the money for the botting. No. That's the thing, bro. Like I think if they're looking for Cojo or Josh Kaplan, like I think those, they believe that those guys source the bots or the botting guys.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Like that's where they're trying to get it from, right? So that's what that part is. Yeah, the shit's crazy, bro. I feel like it, like my theory is, I think Drake. contract was ending or coming to an animal republic. So I don't feel like they were too incentivized to keep them all that happy. Like bring his stock down a bit. And then on the other side, you had John, John Janick, who has been really trying to beat
Starting point is 01:22:23 these guys for years. And Kendrick's one of his artists, always been one of his artists. And I think he just said, fuck it, we're going at this thing full force. We're really going to put a dent in Drake this time. Now, here's the thing. the counterpoint to everything, and that's what I'm saying. This is why I hate the error we're in
Starting point is 01:22:44 when it comes to discussing this. Because if we're going to have legitimate, intelligent discussions, we can't do it from a place of stand-up. I don't give two fucks about Kendrick, but I do care about music. So oftentimes when I'm arguing, I might make a point that might be on his side,
Starting point is 01:23:02 but it's not because of that, is that I can't lead these, type of discussions with the fact that I'm a Drake fan. For example, right? If we're talking about, you know, the entire battle and where Drake's contract was and what the hell was going to happen, he has a reasonable, he has a reasonable conversation or a reasonable discussion to have like, hey, listen, I feel like you guys did some stuff to, like, devalue me.
Starting point is 01:23:35 but then there is the other side as well, right? Which is, hey, we are just music publishers. And we're, this one I'm saying, like, I don't know why fans are so heavily invested in this because it's not going to tell us anything. Like, this is like waiting for the Epstein files, and after it, we're like, where's the list? Where's the list, y'all?
Starting point is 01:23:59 You don't think, like, if they found bots, you don't think that would ever be publicly brought out. that they found them? Do you think that information would actually get out into the public? It won't be connected to UMG. No, that's true. Like you said, it'd be a third party, right? They would just say third party, we had no idea.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Let me tell what's going to happen. UMG is going to also say we've, we've also did our own internal review. We worked with Spotify. We conducted our own internal review and audits of our artist streams and songs that did well or whatever. And we were active in trying to fight against bots. Makes no sense that we would be paying for bots. But here's the thing. That's what I keep saying it's the music industry.
Starting point is 01:24:44 The record labels have been, they're the same ones that used to purchase records. Back in a day when the majority of sales came from this idea of not UPC scan, but it was records shipped, they would ship a million records that you could certify something platinum, them, then they would buy half of them because now Best Buy or whatever saying, yo, you gave us all these fucking records, nobody buying them. So they would do a huge buyback of some of these records, right?
Starting point is 01:25:15 And then, you know, they would do sometimes the return game where they would stagger it over time because those things used to get minused off via sound scans. So the record labels are always going to finesse. It is part of program in the mind. It is part of program in the mind. I'm just saying as long as there's a business of music, you will never erase that. They will do it at some way somehow. It didn't start with Drake.
Starting point is 01:25:45 It won't end with Drake. And if Drake wants to, if the only thing I look at some of his fans, like being like, oh my God, he's exposing something. Tell me that water is wet when you're saying that the labels will do some shi-sty shit. I work with labels. All they do is shi-stey shit. Okay, so if that's the thing you were waiting to hear, well, you know it now. Like, so what else are we going to hear? For me, I think Drake wants his damn money.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Yeah, that man is money. I think UMG is going to pay to save some embarrassment and save some restructuring. Again, you can't destroy them, but you might change how the way they move. Remember, they started to move a little bit different. Yo, Pusher, chill out with that. Because this nigga Drake bought a, he bought a father, don't know what I mean? Yeah. So I think they'll come to, and I don't think Drake is really on some fuck the labels I'm going independent.
Starting point is 01:26:46 That's nothing. I don't think his audience is kind of like analyzing. Which part of this says Drake is about to just go independent and say, fuck it. I don't want to deal with the labels no more. Yeah, it's just a theory, right? He has one album left. It's just like the way up. The way.
Starting point is 01:27:04 with UMG. You know what I mean? Because here's this when people say Drake is going against the industry. And again, Drake's my guy, but we just got to call space, pay. He tried it. He tried teasing it. You see all them 100 gig songs, Universal was just hours, hours, hours, hours. Yeah, you can't do nothing.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Contractually, they got you. And there is no going against, like Drake could follow an emergency. You see if Drake wanted to really go against the industry like some of his family. thing. You filed what Meg the Stalian did against 15-01. You want an emergency injunction that UMG, because you have this theory that they were fucking with you
Starting point is 01:27:44 or they were trying to suppress your career or do whatever, that they could no longer administrate your album until this case is resolved. Now you're technically a free agent. You could do what you want. But no, Drake is... Iceman is going to say UMG, brother.
Starting point is 01:28:01 And I'm telling you... Drake is a... You know, he's... He's going to be in the major label system. I can't see another world. So you don't think there's a possibility of him going with a different major and like dipping from UMG? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:21 That's a possibility. The only thing is that what people always have to remember. And, okay, so this was the other part. And, you know, what was even discussed. And I talked to a bunch of people, high-level people at UMM. they were saying hey listen Drake bugging out a bit the reason why we're going to say he's bugging out is that
Starting point is 01:28:40 hey Drake's catalog generates Republic so much revenue a year we need Drake to be in good standing we need Drake to keep putting out music and we would never collude or we would never be like
Starting point is 01:28:58 do anything to hurt him when his revenue is one of the main drivers of our label so it's like the idea that, okay, maybe John, all right, let's just go down this rabbit hole. Let's say John Janick was like, yeah, let's get this motherfucker over there, right?
Starting point is 01:29:14 Well, Monty Lipman is going to be like, nigger, no, you're not. Because I'm not going to let you kill off my artists and boast in yours when we're in competition. So I'm going to put up some type of defense, you know? And I think that's where that is at. But I can't see Drake going independent and all like that, bro. It'd be a lot more work for him.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Well, I know he moved OVO Sound over to Sony, right? Yeah, but Drake don't move like an independent artist. Kendrick's moving like an independent artist, and even then he's not fully independent because he did this licensing deal. But PG-Lang has in-house everything. They have the botters in-house. They have the digital guys in-house. They have the fake news spreaders in-house.
Starting point is 01:30:03 They have the ANRs in-house. They have the-I'm serious. I'm not. money. They have the content guys in house. They've got some produce. P.G. Lang, like, I think Kendrick did want to go independent. And I think what happened is, and this was going to say about, you know, when you say go to a different label, what ends up happening is it's kind of like the NBA. You know the NBA, and I don't know if you're a sports guy, you could only get the supermax from the team you were with. Well, here's the thing. Drake isn't.
Starting point is 01:30:38 at the beginning of his career. He's a seasoned artist. He's pushing 40, right? I mean, he's still in his prime, I would consider. But let's say another, say Sony would say, you know what, we'll give you half a million dollars. Now we got to think about recoupment. Recruitment on that, not half a billion.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Recruitment on that half a billion dollars when they own zero drink product. When Universal gives drinks. half a billion, they use the fact that they own a lot of his albums and they leverage it that they could recoup faster. Hey, we own a bunch of these
Starting point is 01:31:18 since we're giving you this money up front that we could recoup off of your old stuff. Look, we just, I went down the most streamed album this year, take care as one of them. Whatever deal that that's why artists usually go back to their regular label.
Starting point is 01:31:34 This is why, why do you think it's not really pronounced? because TDE don't really say shit about shit. Kendrick didn't drop music for five years. He was getting out of his contract. He didn't not want to twofold, be in a major label system and also not want to be at TDE. He wanted to build his own, right?
Starting point is 01:31:54 After he develops his own thing, PG-Lang, the nigger goes back in signs and licensed through, through, um, UMG, UMG Interscope. Why? Why? Because his catalog already resides there. They're going to give him a more favorable deal. Why? They could leverage his back catalog, right? Because who do you think owns Good Kid Mad City? It definitely ain't Kendrick Duckworth Lamar. It's owned by Universal. So they're going to give him a better deal than he could get anywhere else. So that's why you see people stay at their label. So why would Sony go out to the tune of half a billion dollars that's only going to just pretty much enrich universal who no longer has to market drink right because that's
Starting point is 01:32:44 the thing when they're marketing these artists now they're knowing oh well the 10 year anniversary of this is coming up and these albums going to go up you're just doing all the leg work for and by the way this is why the situation with um young boy at capital like the majority of his album is over there Atlantic. Yeah. He might go back. You never know. Yeah. I guess you're right. Like, because if Drake dropped an album under Sony,
Starting point is 01:33:18 brand new album, the minute he does that, take care for UMGs going up. Nothing was it like. And Kendrick, same thing, right? When he drops new music, all of his catalog goes into the charts, right? So that, yeah, that's a good point. So the way how they leverage is this, right? Like, so Drake has immense amount of leverage at this point, right? But what would somebody like Drake would do is like, all right, give me the money up front.
Starting point is 01:33:45 But I want after this deal, I get a quarter of the masters or 25% of the masters of, let's say, take care and nothing was the same or something. So what they'll do is give us new product and you'll gain pieces of. of your old product back. You get what I'm saying? And it'll incentivize the artist to stay. And again, those type of deals that is so cross-collateralized and is so leveraged in multiple different ways, they're leveraging your back catalog to recoup.
Starting point is 01:34:21 They're also banking on you possibly wanted more ownership, so they're promising you more in the future, but more that you could possibly get in the past. And they're not going to give you more to have, honestly. that's kind of how I mean shit I know about young boy's situation to a certain extent
Starting point is 01:34:39 he wanted them to do that they wouldn't do it with them though and that was something kind of common whereas like hey after a certain while you'll be like you'll give me three more albums and then I'll give you a piece of the last three that you dropped before
Starting point is 01:34:55 but you know again you know us fans we're looking to hear and find some shit about this battle that I don't know what would make us feel happy. Like, I've kind of said it. Do I think Kendrick bought it?
Starting point is 01:35:11 Yes. Think Kendrick was bought it. Like, again, do I think Kendrick himself knew who was bought it? No. I think Kendrick has an amazing team. I think his team knew from the get-go, we need Twitter bots. We need music bots because we're battling the guy with the algorithm. Okay?
Starting point is 01:35:29 And I think they successfully did that. Okay. They didn't. Even if we know that, what does it change? Or is it maybe some type of like, you know, it's like a, what type of win you would call it? It's like, ah, yeah, at least we knew it wasn't real. Like, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:51 The only thing, bro, like, I don't think anything could really change the perception for like, like bots are not going to do it because people know that bots are being used anyways. I think when it comes to the allegations and shit like that, like what Drake levied in his tracks, like Family Matters, if some of that shit was proven, I think that would be pretty devastating for Kendrick or at least his reputation. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:36:15 I'm not sure how that would happen, though, through the lawsuit. Give it an example. What do you mean? Well, you know, Drake said the allegations about Whitney and the allegations with the kid, and now we're seeing this in the lawsuit, so people are starting to think that it can come out that way, but I don't know how UMG would really have details about that.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Now, I do think that Drake is playing chicken with that. I think Drake is daring them to counter suit. And here's the thing. I honestly do believe that something happened in that Vegas situation. I do. And I think that Drake, his nose has been so clean in terms of anything associated with pedophilia that he has no problem with people. have an inquiries about him.
Starting point is 01:37:04 But if you countersuit, now we get to legitimately ask and request your criminal record or even anything to prove that that was true. So I think that's why Kendrick has not done anything, even though I think maybe also Kendrick is taking a pro-hip-hop stance. But if Kendrick sued or countersued to say, you lied on me, well, even if Drake didn't have all the details at the point, it better not be true that you had a domestic situation. It better not be.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Because now you're going to have to substantiate that. Right. So you're going to have to say, well, based on these times or whatever, there was no police involvement, never happened. And here are all, we have to be open enough to give all this information. And I don't think Kendrick going to go down that route. No. I don't think he could sue because I believe, people seem to believe that there's some truth to that vaguest thing, right?
Starting point is 01:38:02 based on what I've been hearing. So I don't think he would sue for it because it seems to be possibly true, right? Yeah, but also here's the thing too. And this is what I'd be looking at these fans. Man, y'all love mad rappers that beat their bitch, man. This is way our little Kendrick Lamar fans is like, the soapbox shit, it just makes y'all look like hypocrites. But like, I don't want to, like, throw, you know, stray bullets at anybody
Starting point is 01:38:29 and bring any other artists into it. but there's a bunch of artists we've either seen on camera or seen allegations of. And, you know, of course, there's nobody co-signed in those things or standing with them. But over time, you know, unless it's something that you just seen crystal clear on some Chris Brown shit, a lot of people got over it and a lot of people moved on, you know? So I kind of look at it like that. It only makes the Kendrick fans look a little bit hypocritical, but I don't think that kills Kendrick career even if it was true.
Starting point is 01:38:59 You get what I'm saying? No, I think he would go through like a week of like shit. And then, you know, some people like the Drake fans will bring it up. But most people would probably, the casuals, like, that's why I try to remind people too. Like the casual fan doesn't think like the way that a lot of these fans are thinking and acting, right? It's a whole different bag. A whole different bag, bro. Yeah, but that's where everything is getting like too crazy.
Starting point is 01:39:25 It's like, you know, check, you know, check it out. Yo, okay. Did everybody see or like the idea of oh Drake texting Millie Bobby whatever be like yo Like I'm gonna be honest with you I never really thought damn that's kind of weird Drake is like a I always thought I'm like yo damn this this like cookie cutter Drake being Drake like trying to be friends with every new pop in person but nothing none of that kind of came across as I'm trying to fuck you you get what I'm saying and What people can't distinguish is
Starting point is 01:39:59 They take any little thing and you're now full blown. You have an island fucking these chicks and they're 13. Like that's how they're taking it. Right. Like you could look at that situation and be like, yeah, I probably won't be texting with sure. You know what I mean? And be like, why are you? Like even if you say, cool, they used to be like, Drake, why are you doing that dumb shit?
Starting point is 01:40:19 Cool. But they just take it and be like, I told you he was fucking kids. And a lot. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? A lot of them. He's not only that he's trafficking them. Yo, and that leap right there is like where hip hop turns dangerous.
Starting point is 01:40:35 You got these fans literally turning rappers who I'm going to be honest with you. I think Drake and Kendrick are both two rappers. They probably have their faults here or there, but they're normal people. I don't think they're like societal rejects or some delinquents that are fucking kids or serial woman beater. I don't. Now, has Kendrick may have had a bad moment with this girl? Maybe, okay?
Starting point is 01:41:03 Like, did Drake probably make a mistake or whatever on stage? Yeah, but are these people like, like on the hunt to beat women and fuck kids? Like, come on. Like, this is where I don't like how to hip hop fans have turned it into. They have turned it into,
Starting point is 01:41:20 he's just, he's, Ike Turner, okay? and this nigga is literally Jeffrey Epstein. Pretty much, bro. That's what it's gotten to. It's crazy to think that the battle,
Starting point is 01:41:36 did you think for one second when the battle happened a year and a half ago, did you think that we would be right where we're at right now, this far out and it's still being like the most talked about thing? Did you think that would be true? Is that what? Oh, man. Did you, like, looking back, did you think when the battle first happened,
Starting point is 01:41:54 did you think we'd be really talking about it to this extent all these like a full year and a half later we're still here we're still here man I'm gonna be honest with you I don't know how hip hop returns to some sort of regularity after this
Starting point is 01:42:13 I'm gonna be honest with you I've never seen Kendrick fans this active and it's like they have a mission and I've never seen Drake fans this active they have a mission and I don't know how this changes, man. But I am kind of sick of it. I'm kind of sick of it, even though it is new content,
Starting point is 01:42:34 which I guess that's the hypocritical part where I'm like, all right, well, just give me a new headline to talk about on stream. But, yo, we are talking about the same shit. This is the biggest headline, though. This is the biggest topic. People still want to talk about Kendrick and Drake. So as media, you're going to cover it, right? Like, for me, I haven't really done, like, I don't,
Starting point is 01:42:55 put out nearly as many videos, right? But I have the cover to Drake stuff right now. There's too much going on. Right? And I'm going to be honest with you. Listen, if anybody have seen the majority of civil lawsuits, it is never as explosive as this. Every fucking day there's something.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Every day there's something. Yo, the amount of money being dumped into this, like Drake said like he spent $100,000 on trying to get Kojo. They're spending so much more. money kind of going at each other. I can't even tell if it's PR or like this is some real, I guess it's both, but it's like, how annoying do you think this is for UMG right now? Because like, Drake seems to be causing a bit of chaos with this.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Like he's really, I mean, he's not, it has to be a little bit, this has to be a little bit, this got to be very inconvenient for him. For UMG? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would say. No, I think, I think that's exactly happening.
Starting point is 01:44:01 But that's why I also say, like, how do they not say, we're going to take it out on this guy? Like, Drake is definitely fucking some shit up there. You know what I mean? Do you think that this lawsuit has already had or could have already had ramifications on battles in the future? and how executives look at battles when it comes to any big battle, yeah. Like, I'm pretty sure we won't see a big battle like this for a while. And even when we do see one,
Starting point is 01:44:35 they're going to take the approach of, we're not touching it with a 10-foot pole. Meaning before they monetize and put it on DSPs, they have a team that comes in and reviews all the facts or the allegations. Yo, so you said, you said his mama is a what? You said his brother is a what? And they're going to then be like, hey, listen, we could put out a version of this song,
Starting point is 01:45:03 but we're bleeping certain lines, we're erasing certain lines, and that's how we'll publish it. Otherwise, that shit could just be up on YouTube, and that's going to be an interesting way to deal with it because record labels like to monetize everything. But they might learn from this and say, because you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:45:26 Kendrick would have put the songs out regardless. Drink could have put the songs out regardless, right? We don't have story of added on, and we don't have Dupy Freestyle on DSPs, right? There was a cognizant effort made, I think with the artist as well to say, we're not going to monetize this, right? These songs just got so big,
Starting point is 01:45:48 and the moment was so big, they knew these songs were going to be the biggest thing in the world. world. But if the label had not monetized this, UMG has zero fault, right? If they don't take the song and ingest it in their system, they have zero fault. You would have to sue Kendrick and I guess YouTube, because Kendrick just released it on YouTube at first, right? It took a good like 12 hours or like maybe 24 hours for it to really get up on DSPs. So again, if they don't do that, Drake can't sue UMJ. So I could see...
Starting point is 01:46:25 That's a good point. I can see them in the future. Just being a little bit more careful with bigger songs. Now granted, that's what I'm keeping saying. Like, will a drill rapper, like, you know, Guy Rested Dead in terms of Julio Fulia, but like, say a guy does what Julio Fulio does and makes a song like when I see you
Starting point is 01:46:43 or like a young and A's type song like who I smoke. Yeah, those songs will still get through. Because Lucian don't know what the fuck those songs are. You probably never heard those songs in his life. But big A-list artists, I could see them saying, hold on now. We're not going to let this go too crazy. Or we're just going to leave it over there. Basically, yeah, it's not like you that could stop people from doing this tracks,
Starting point is 01:47:10 but it's never going to be at this big high-level thing anymore, probably, where there's like these scathing things being thrown back and forth, and they're just going to let that fly. Yeah, yeah. And if the guys want to take it just throw it up on YouTube, that makes sense. I've one thing I've wanted I want to drink to kind of explain that lawsuit because he needs to because I want to hear his objective because we're fans and we all are making up our own objectives some people say no this is the one to take down the music industry you said hey well this is how
Starting point is 01:47:47 he clears his name there's other people that say he's going to show you that there was manipulation that happened he's going to show you ex-examination that happened he's going to show you ex-examination So, like, why did he file it? Right? Because if he's trying to clear his name, I think that's one way you can clear your name, right? You defame me by calling me this. You're going to either show up with proof, right?
Starting point is 01:48:10 Or you're going to admit that you did defame me, and once I show the damages, you owe me some money. And then the other thing is, okay, these labels have been pulling bullshit with artists for the longest. I want to shut that down or accept. expose it and also get paid because they fucked me over. I really don't know which one it is. Or maybe it's a collection of all of them, but I'm trying to see the mindset behind of it.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Yeah, we have no idea at this point. We can only speculate. And there's like the reasons you gave, that's more to Drake-friendly ones. Like, people say that he's soon because he lost the battle. That's basically what a lot of people say, right? And that he didn't know how to handle the L. We hear that a lot. Yeah, which I think that's unfair that people are saying about.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Drake, man. Like, even now, we're like, like, I looked at one of his last caption and, like, you could tell his caption still is kind of embodying the energy of responding to maybe what the battle did. And people like, damn, he can't get over it. I'm like, you know what's so funny?
Starting point is 01:49:20 Compared to a battle that he unanimously won, which is versus Meek, the dude went on to drop a whole album where he's like, your free smoke, like he still was in that energy. even in the win. So it's not like he was like, all right,
Starting point is 01:49:35 I won the battle. I'm completely over it. He was on that type of time. Like, all right, who else wants some? Like, what's popping?
Starting point is 01:49:41 Like, what are we doing? And that's always been a fuel and a motivator for him to kind of do what he does. And I think people have to realize, like, I don't think he's necessarily harping on the battle,
Starting point is 01:49:53 but he's definitely bottling that energy, whether it's revenge. Okay, I got to spin back. Um, all right, the dudes who turned on me, stay there. Fuck it. I think he wants his lick back. I think he wants, I think he wants his get back. I think he wants revenge.
Starting point is 01:50:12 But yo, I got to hop off. All right, brother. It's getting pretty late here, bro. All right. But, uh, keep in touch, man. Yeah, yeah, definitely, man. Definitely. Anything you in for me?
Starting point is 01:50:23 Thanks for having me on. Keep fighting a good fight versus the K boss, man. You too, bro. I just ignore him. I don't know what the fuck they said. point. Look. All right.
Starting point is 01:50:38 It's the K-boss chat. Here we go. All right. Enough Drake talk. I'm Drake-out, right? We're Drake now. Yo, what I did want to play is... So, so...
Starting point is 01:51:04 Pretty much. The, the, um, criminal trial for the guy who did the hiring of the hitman who killed Dolf is happening. now his name is Hernandez Govon and in the fuck why can I click on this and in his trial
Starting point is 01:51:29 basically we're learning a lot more about what the hell kind of like not only we kind of seen some about Dolph's last moments but we're also kind of figuring out what was really behind this plot of the murder of young Dolph
Starting point is 01:51:47 and we get to find out about all these you know, bounties that were put on people's head, this and third. And give me one second. Okay. So, hold on.
Starting point is 01:52:11 So there's a few questions, and obviously people want to connect. Oh, you guys can see this. People want to connect Doff's murder to eventually Yogi. Obviously, his brother,
Starting point is 01:52:22 Big Jirk, was kind of connected, but he was fatally gun down. And people are wondering, was Goddie, like kind of involved. Godi really put the money up in. Was it his idea? And then people are kind of wondering, well, Godi get charged, right?
Starting point is 01:52:39 Obviously, one of the shooters, which is Justin Johnson, he already got life. Cornelius Smith, I believe that's his name. He's the other shooter. He's testifying. And now he's testifying against this guy who's right here named Hernandez-Govon, who's a guy who supposedly Big Juk got to get the killers. but they're trying to see how many steps removed is it from not only big juk but also was even goddy involved at all okay um here we go so they're asking they're asking the police about why didn't they interview big juk
Starting point is 01:53:25 if they thought he was the one that was putting the money up for people to get killed I guess they've been asking you about these cameras and things like that. Let's just tell it how it is. Nobody during this investigation ever went to pressure roll to check about the cameras, right? No. Nobody in this investigation ever went to AutoZone to check if the cameras were there. Nobody went to the AutoZone that Cornynoy Smith said he went to to buy a car cover to see if there's a receipt or some surveillance or something like that inside the AutoZone, right?
Starting point is 01:54:02 Yeah. Okay. Those are things that would be important to try to corroborate a witness who obviously is the shooter in this case to make sure he's not lying to you, right? Yes. And when people get caught, they generally lie to police. Is that uncommon? Sometimes. Do people lie to get out of trouble?
Starting point is 01:54:22 Sometimes, yes. Do people lie to cut deals? Also, with regards to the area around pressure wall, it's a pretty busy area, right? I don't get to big jigs up. What a CD camera looks like. Um, any... ...what he told his girlfriend. Your Honor,
Starting point is 01:54:49 it's not... ...in certain what previous was that... ...approach. Okay. This is a bunch of... ...you mean in your report, you guys said, jokes the mastermind. Let me ask it this way.
Starting point is 01:55:09 If Cornelius Smith and Angela Arnold had repeatedly told you all, that Juk was the one that was calling the shots. So the killer who was snitching and his girlfriend told the cops that Big Jook is the one who got the bounties on all the PRE members. So they're asking the cops, why y'all ain't going to talk to Juk? Now, me person, I believe that they left Juk out there because they wanted to get Gotti. And they knew Juk was not going to give up Gotti, so they needed to get more on Juk. That probably could implicate Goddy.
Starting point is 01:55:47 Even in your report, you guys said, Juk's the mastermind. That would cause you to go interview Juk because that's an important piece of information, right? During the investigation, yes. All right. But as the lead detective, at no point during the investigation, did we attempt to talk to Joe? We hadn't made it that far, no. We hadn't made it that far. Okay, it's been four years, and we know Juk died two and a half years after me.
Starting point is 01:56:17 case. We know everybody had already been indicted within a few months of the arrest taking place, but we never went to talk the joke. Even after Cornelius and Angela repeatedly said he was a mastermind. I think that's the phrase you guys used between your Operation Cookie Monster slideshow, right? But I am going to attempt to this final question is, is it relevant? Of course it's relevant. He's a suspect. The reason I ask is, um, These people have come in here and testified and said they're telling the truth. So those people, they testified that they're telling the truth.
Starting point is 01:57:01 They talked about Mr. Gobain here. They talked about Juk. And we can quibble about who's in charge or whose house or who, whatever. But clearly, Juk was a suspect in this case. But he was never followed up with at all by Memphis Police Department at any point in this investigation, even though he died two and a half years later. So essentially, the police are admitting that they kind of just love him. left big joke out there.
Starting point is 01:57:37 Let me second. Now the girlfriend of the killer actually testified. Arnold. And how are you familiar or where have you seen Mr. Govan? A couple of times riding with Cornelius over his house. Over whose house? Over Govan's house.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Okay. So you and Cornelius Smith would go to Govan's house? I would ride with him, yes. Okay. Would you ever go inside? No. So how do you know it was Noon's house? So it couldn't eat stuff.
Starting point is 01:58:11 Did you see Goban outside the home? Yes. Okay. Do you know where this home is located? On Bradd Street. Okay. What area of time is at? Oh, it was right.
Starting point is 01:58:21 And on the time that you saw him at the home, did you ever speak to Mr. Goban? No. Have you ever spoken to Mr. Goban? No. And so did Mr. Smith ever tell you about discussions that he might have had with Mr. Goban? Yes. So what do you tell you?
Starting point is 01:58:43 He said something about a hit. A hit on who? On the dog. So Cornelia Smith told you that he talked about a dog hit with Hernandez-Goban. Yes. Okay. So do you remember when Mr. Smith told you about that conversation? Okay.
Starting point is 01:59:10 I remember the same day. Okay. Wasn't in 2021? Was it hot or cold outside? Do you remember? It was hot outside. Okay. And so when Mr. Smith told you about that discussion he had would go in,
Starting point is 01:59:26 did he ever tell you about a dollar amount? He mentioned a dollar amount. Do you remember what that dollar amount was? It's between a million and $1.5. Okay. And so this discussion... So it looked like maybe he was boosting, but like he told his girl like,
Starting point is 01:59:50 yo, your big jerk wanted to go kill this nigger, Duff. He's going to pay us a million dollars. that y'all had was it before Aval Fortin was killed? Yeah. Okay. And so did Mr. Smith
Starting point is 02:00:07 ever tell you any specifics about this hit on dogs? Yeah. Okay. Did he tell you when and where they were going to do it? No. Okay. And to your knowledge,
Starting point is 02:00:18 did Mr. Smith ever have, well, let me back a little bit. Do you know someone by the name of Anthony Mims or Big Joe? Yes. Okay. To your knowledge, did Smith ever have direct contact with Big Juk? No. So how would he, if he communicated at all with Big Juk, how did he do that?
Starting point is 02:00:39 They said he would talk to Govan, send a message through him, and he would get a message to Jube. And Jip would talk to Govan, and Govan would tell them a message. Okay. So Govan was the link between Mr. Smith and Big Jube. Yes. Okay. So I'm going to fast forward to November 17th, 2021. Do you know where you were that day? Yes. Where were you? I was at his dad's house before I went home. Whose dad's house? Corniche.
Starting point is 02:01:13 Okay. And was Mr. Smith there as well? Yes. How long were you all there for? Well, I had left. I can't remember. When did you leave? I can't remember the time, but I know I had left and went home. Did you leave alone? Yes.
Starting point is 02:01:33 So Mr. Smith wasn't with you? I had took him to work. Okay. You took Cornelia Smith to work? No. Who did you take to work? His dad. Okay.
Starting point is 02:01:45 And so when you left the house that day, was Cornelia Smith still at the house? Okay. Did you see him leave the house? No, I did. Okay. Do you remember him getting any calls that morning before you left his dad's house? He got a bomb car. Okay.
Starting point is 02:02:02 So Cornice Smith got a phone call before you left. Yes. Do you happen to know who that calls from? No, I don't. Okay. Do you recall anyone coming to the house before you left? I signed a car before a door, but I can't tell you who was in. Okay.
Starting point is 02:02:16 What kind of car was it? It was a white car. Do you know the maker or the model of the car? No, I don't. Was it a truck? Was it a sedan? It was a car. It wasn't an issue real.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Okay. And you said you don't know the other person in the car? No, I don't know. Okay. Did you see Mr. Smith get into the car at all? No, I had pulled off. Okay. So she's basically like co-signing that there was a bounty and a hit that was actually put on Dove.
Starting point is 02:02:52 Okay? Exactly did this person pull up too? Was it right in front of cornucon? It was across the street. Okay. First button. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 02:03:05 The defense actually cross-exam. My name is Manny. It just says original, so I don't get them. There's two more cameras. Go around it. Right. All right. So when they ask you about having to go do anything, your first thing, and this is December 17th,
Starting point is 02:03:24 exactly 30 days after the shooting, you said you don't remember. to the police, right? Yes. And then they ask you, wasn't there something your boyfriend said that you forgot, or something that he needed
Starting point is 02:03:35 to go get, or those kinds of things. They're prompting you, right? Tell you what you're supposed to say. I'm one-sided. Okay. Let's talk about Cornelia, excuse me,
Starting point is 02:03:50 Govan. Play that a clip. He's really cute. Because drop, he figured I knew some, and he was like, not on my ear on my love and what's he saying
Starting point is 02:04:26 the car was down on the cross the street for the meeting you said he got his phone supposedly even though you didn't see it but now you're saying he also got some money from Govan? Yeah. Okay, how much money did he get? Okay car covers can cost $50,000
Starting point is 02:04:47 you have any idea what kind of car cover it was? No one. Okay, what happened to the car cover? Okay. Was it at your house when you guys wanted to take it home? No. Where did you take it? It was in my truck, but I don't know what happened to it.
Starting point is 02:05:03 Okay. With regards to the money that, well, first, are you testifying to this jury that Cornelius prior to Dolf being killed told you that he was going to do it? He was telling me about meetings that they had, conversations that they had. Okay. You're his girlfriend. And what did you think those meetings were about?
Starting point is 02:05:38 I didn't take your own in the process. What did he tell you about these meetings prior to the murder? He was just saying that they want to put a hit out on or a dog. And that was okay with you as his girlfriend? I didn't take it serious because at the time when he was popping feels really bad. Okay. Corneurius has lied to you a lot over your relationship. Has he not?
Starting point is 02:06:03 Yes. All right. And you have domestic violence issues? He's stolen your TVs and sold them. He's taking your guns and sold them, right? The 9mm handguns. Is there any chance he used those guns as part of the shooting? I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:06:22 And how many shootings do you know Bobby to have done over the years? I don't know. More than three or four, right? I don't know. I'm sorry, Cornelius, I asked you about Bobby. Cornelius took your guns, and you don't know how many times he may have. abused us, right? I don't.
Starting point is 02:06:40 You do know that he pulled a gun on his child's mother sometime during your relationship. I'm just asking her if she knows. They've been dating for nine years now. Speaking of when Cornelius has lied to you, he also told you he was going to get like a million and a half dollars for doing this, right? Yes. And then it became maybe a million dollars? Yes.
Starting point is 02:07:06 Then it became maybe $500,000? A hundred thousand dollars. Okay. So look like this guy was a pillhead. He's lying to his girl how much money he's going to get for killing Dolf. By the way, I think that the actual money turned out to be like $30,000. And then maybe $100,000, you remember that? And then do you remember $50,000?
Starting point is 02:07:29 No, I don't. Do you recall Jokes attorney paying for courting of his lawyer? I don't. Okay. Okay, so that's the girlfriend. And I know it's not the most exciting shit you guys give a fuck about, but, you know, I know a lot of people are interested in to see how much they kind of try to connect this to possibly Godi. Here it is.
Starting point is 02:08:19 So they're talking about the killer. These killers call with big joke. Here we go. Justin Johnson is yellow, and then Cornelius, Smith is green just to kind of see the kind of the flow of bicycle. And then seven with Hernandez-Govine. And then 7 with Hernandez-Govan. Justin Johnson had four with Anthony Mims,
Starting point is 02:08:46 and then he had zero with Cornelius. And then Cornelius had 20 communications. with Hernandez Govand. But he had zero with Justin and zero with Anthony Mims. And then this is just the actual raw records that just depicts what that is. So at the top you have Justin Johnson's records and then at the bottom you have Cornelius Smith's records. Govan and then below that, for the long gym, James.
Starting point is 02:09:26 Correct. For telephone numbers, Okay, so there's point out like some, what phone calls are made. Not really getting much from that. I think that might be it. The girlfriend or the killer said that she thought he was getting a million dollars. Cornelius did, they did testify. The end.
Starting point is 02:09:55 Where did you? And who's all? Why did you have a mask on? Because that one part of their little crew and, you know, I ain't want to bring no little beef upon myself. He asked me to be a quick. Nandne de Gauvin asked me to be in the video. That's why I'm standing like right behind him
Starting point is 02:10:12 because I ain't know nothing the other guy. How long from when you received a call from Justin to when he came to get you to Gauvin's house on breakfast? They called me. Okay. All right. Anyway, pretty much if you ask me, I think this Hernandez-Govon guy is going to get,
Starting point is 02:10:42 he's going to get convicted. Big Jook is dead. There's nobody for him to tell on other than maybe Goddy, but we don't know if Goddy's involved. And it looks like the killer is all, the killer is basically saying, this is the guy that was going to pay us. The girlfriend is saying,
Starting point is 02:11:01 I heard about the plot, I brought him there. They were talking a lot. So he kind of looks cooked. Let me give you an update on Young Thug, who just got, he won in court. Brian still was back in court with him Fulton County and the judge actually dismissed the forfeiture case and basically allowed him to keep some of his vehicles. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:11:20 The state also argued that the trial and make a thought. Sure. Oh, never mind. You can't hear of shit. Never mind. But he did score a minor victory, not minor victory. Actually, a major victim. He was allowed to keep his vehicles and it was dismissed that the government would be able to seize any of his. you know, personal items, whether for restitution or because it was involved in some of these crimes that he allegedly did or pled out to. So that's just not going to happen. All right. We'll kind of move on from that. Let's kind of get on to this Plattboy Max and Fabio Forrin situation. So Fabio Forre, and I can't tell, like, you know, Fabio Forre was locked up for six months. Now, no one,
Starting point is 02:12:12 but like not a soul new he was locked up, but he's now back out free and he's doing podcasts and look like he's trying to heat shit back up. So he was talking about his previous interaction with Playa Boy Max. Now, if you guys don't remember, there was a viral video where Plac Boy Max,
Starting point is 02:12:34 uh, Favio, smoke, basically this will happen. Let me say, okay, right here. He was telling them they can't sound.
Starting point is 02:12:46 When Lil TJ showed up unexpectedly to Plackboy Max's stream, things started off great. Everyone was having a good time until TJ lit a bloat without asking if it was okay. Who's smoking? Who's smoking? Yo, Tj, Tj. What's up? Who's up? Oh, look at Fabio's face.
Starting point is 02:13:02 Yo, this a B&B you can't smoke here this shit. I'll go off. I appreciate you though. Max politely told him not to smoke inside, but T.J. didn't really listen. Not long after, Favio, including T.J. started smoking. Max reminded them again that it wasn't allowed. Yo, bro, you can't smoke in here, this one go off, please. I appreciate you.
Starting point is 02:13:23 Just seconds later, TJ lit up again, and this is when Max had enough. He stepped up and respectfully told him to leave. Yo, I'm gonna keep it a buck, bro. If you're smoking here, I'm not, I'm gonna have to set this dream done. Y'all. All right.
Starting point is 02:13:42 All right, buddy. Like and subscribe. Okay. So that happens. Then, then, I think Max got into it with a little TJ
Starting point is 02:13:58 and then Fabio kind of came back around. And Fabio previewed a song called Platt Boy Max. I think this is it right here. Is it this? Yeah. She like,
Starting point is 02:14:15 boy, you better not cheat. I'm like saying what's high got to be. That's why. I got to leave I smoke the bottom with burrow for the week I got a lot of music Meish, someone make them hot as me
Starting point is 02:14:25 That's why I got to live I smoke a blood and we burrow for the week God damn, get off my decent, damn get off my decent, god damn, get off my decent, damn, damn, damn, damn, damn, some I tell little bids, I don't troll I do them. I kinda like this one. Black boy max.
Starting point is 02:15:01 Okay, so he drops this song. He gets locked up. This song was actually having a little bit of motion. It looked like they were having like friendly banter. But then what happens is Favio gets out of jail after being in there for six months. If you didn't know why he got locked up, he pointed a gun at a woman. And this happened in New Jersey, and they had him locked up because there's zero bail out here. They had him locked up for six months.
Starting point is 02:15:25 He gets out and then he starts talking about streamers. and this is what he said. Rappers is cool, right? Streamers, and I got nothing against streamers, but I'm just telling you facts. The streamers got lit from having people on their stream, the cool people on their stream.
Starting point is 02:15:48 So they're following, the rap is not going to go chill with this rapper and this rapper and this rapper to get, like, do claps. A streamer going to cheer with this rapper today, Tomorrow, another one, tomorrow, another one, tomorrow, the mayor, tomorrow, another influencer tomorrow. It's like they, they understand. I went on a stream of Packway, Max, and I just say that he wasn't lit, but he wasn't as lit. As those at that time.
Starting point is 02:16:14 Right, so it's not the streamer that's lit. They like the platform, so it's what happens on the platform that people like the platform. People don't really like the individuals. But look how fast that moment was super. I disagree with that. I think streaming more than any other thing, like there's rappers who people like the songs and they don't like the rapper,
Starting point is 02:16:39 especially when you blow up on TikTok and certain things like that. I think with the streamer, the platform is the person. Like to say that, you know, obviously, maybe Kaysen, that's a bad example because he's a big streamer. To say that people like the platform that Kai got,
Starting point is 02:16:57 but not necessarily Kai, The fans give a fuck about what Kai likes. So maybe the rapper is just trying to use the platform, but the fans are genuinely entertained by Kai Sinat. And even Max, they're genuinely entertained by Max. Whoever, Speed, Aidan Ross, they're genuinely entertained by the person they're watching. And this was, to me, a complete misunderstanding of what streamers are
Starting point is 02:17:29 and why they have a platform in the house. have an audience. So I don't think Favio got it. Super, super viral. You was able to take control of that moment, make it work in your favor. Take whatever went, turn the positive in your favor. Come back out, went viral with the record. But that's what I'm talking about how powerful with that whole streaming shit is.
Starting point is 02:17:45 Everybody's looking at it now. Rappers is cool, right? Okay. So now he said that then we get Max, who responded, because he was a little bit confused, like, why the hell? Let me see, do we have it up here? He was confused while Fabio was talking smack because he felt Fabio hit him up.
Starting point is 02:18:25 Fabio had hit him up to do like a collapse. So here we go. He wasn't lit, but he wasn't as lit as those at that time. Right. So it's not the streamer that's lit. They like the platform. So it's what happens on the platform that people like the platform. People don't really like the individual.
Starting point is 02:18:44 But look how fast that moment went super, super viral. You was able to take control at a moment, make it work in your favor. Take whatever went and turn it positive in your favor. Come back out, went viral with the record. But that's what I'm talking about how. Bobby, if that's the case, oh my God, bro. Why are you asking me to do his own?
Starting point is 02:19:21 Why? That don't make no sense. Fuck wrong with you. I went on a stream with Max, and I'd say that he wasn't lit. All right. And I think he calls Max Or no, I think Max calls Favi. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:19:40 How do I wake up to a nigga trying to take a nigga on brand risk, gang? You just call me your heart. Yo, New York niggas, what does that mean when you call a nigga your heart? I called you and asked you, why the fuck you would sneak this in me on podcast? When you was just trying to get a collab out of jail,
Starting point is 02:19:57 you was trying to get a first day out in the booth. You was trying to get a first day out in the booth. And then it didn't end up happening. You go on a podcast and start sneak this. And I call you and ask why. You said it's all good. You know you my heart. I'm going to see you soon.
Starting point is 02:20:15 Was this nigga trying to back door? Let's go. Yo, bro, I don't understand, niggins. I'm going to check this shit out, bro. But like, game, I'm not going to lie, bro. Yo, New York, niggas. Bro, what's up with y'all? I fuck with New York heavy, game.
Starting point is 02:20:31 I'm from Jersey. Is this, nigga? Nah, nah, nah, this was a call. Rappers is cool, right? Niggas don't care about streamers, nigga? Flip my shit, man. My, what? Nick, I just saw you say it.
Starting point is 02:20:51 Mind you, bro, I'm telling these niggas, I'm like, yo, I fuck with these niggas. Yo, don't listen to them niggas, man. They're going to flip this shit around. You know how he rocked ready for this. All right, all right, brody. Yo, I'm coming to see you. All right, gang.
Starting point is 02:21:01 I got you. I got you. I got you. You know you my heart. All right, gang. Yeah, that's like that New York terminology. You know you my heart. Alright, buddy. I love. You good though?
Starting point is 02:21:12 Ah, y'all. Hey, all right. You heard me? This nigga ain't hear me. Ah, yeah. So that happens, and then all of a sudden, Favio says he wants a box. Yeah, boxing match, New York City. I just figured it out. I can't, like, somebody tell a black boy, Max, nigger. We got a box.
Starting point is 02:21:35 I see them hosting boxing matches. I see that's what they do. dude let's do it we can put up a million dollars five million dollars however you want to do it i don't really care like desi that's my nephew that's my cousin that's my family i know his uncle don't twin twin tally that's my twin but this nigger right here this nigga he's my that's you little you little max you little max how you trying to i want a box somebody shut it up i don't got time i got a million online or we go how we want to go like
Starting point is 02:22:11 you can stream it put it on your stream I don't care that's how I'm coming now I'm trying to I'm on the phone thinking you my man that's how I'm coming now fucking I'm like chill that's how I gotta be
Starting point is 02:22:23 that's why I gotta leave I'm gonna yeah ain't going on I think this is all entertainment and I think it's a little bit sad because the rappers are doing streamer antics
Starting point is 02:22:34 one thing I've said about streaming like a lot of the streaming stuff is not real. They've realized to just do a never-ending soap opera and mellow drama gets fans really engaged. So you're seeing fake relationships. You're seeing content with fake reactions. But, you know, I think people kind of get it.
Starting point is 02:22:58 A lot of streaming is turned into wrestling because people's, like, insatiable appetite for drama. However, I think the rappers are kind of on it, I think Fabio was playing around. I don't think Fabio went to box. I think Fabio remembered that the most viral moment he's had in probably maybe a couple years is because of that one incident with Max. And I think he's playing into it to keep the headlines going because he just got out of jail.
Starting point is 02:23:28 Pretty sure he's about to drop some new music. But do I really think he gives a fuck or he's like upset at Max? No. I think he's doing the same thing that these, that we attribute to the streamers. He's just basically just kind of cloud chasing a little bit. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:23:53 Set it up. You got to stop it. I want to pop, back, Matt, Matt, Matt, maybe he's serious.
Starting point is 02:24:03 I don't know. You want to box, Black boy, Max. Y'all, Mac. Y'all heard him. Fabio, on a box,
Starting point is 02:24:10 you might. Carol, you got to get back. My son, you don't want to go in there. Heyden, set it up, Matt. Heyden, set it up. Yeah, I'm going to see him too, Aden, I'm going to talk.
Starting point is 02:24:20 I'm going to talk. Okay. This was the text right here. Nobody know I'm home yet, but we make, nobody know I'm home yet. It's hilarious. I don't think nobody knew was gone for a little bit. He says, oh, I bet what's the words that you tell me, let's go viral. Let's go viral.
Starting point is 02:24:45 Yo, let me come on your stream and make a Thursday song. New York City. I just figured it out. I can't, like... Yeah, I think he's trolling a little bit. I think he's trolling, but who knows? He might be serious, too. Anyway, just drop music, man. Just drop music.
Starting point is 02:25:12 And also, I think Max is going to get to that point. Like, I've warned him before. Like, a lot of these rappers, they're popping on your stream, but just the way how Favio talked, they feel the same way. they don't respect you. They just envy or want your platform.
Starting point is 02:25:35 And that's why when they show up, they don't give a fuck about you saying they can't smoke. They're just trying to get the eyeballs in front of their product. And I do give him some kudos because he's standing for his where he's like, nah, if you're not going to at least, I said no smoking in here like you can leave. He's going to have to do a lot more because I think these rappers, They all kind of feel like that.
Starting point is 02:25:59 You know what I mean? I went through it. A lot of these rappers, they would look at you as, yeah, you got a big platform and everything. But they almost kind of look at you like, oh, you're corny. Like, nigger, you should be happy that we're fucking with you type of shit, you know? So anyway, let me see what else. Give me a second, people. Say Clay Thompson reveals his favorite meal made by Meg the Stahlia.
Starting point is 02:26:37 Let me see this shit. I said this is Meg's finest dish. Here we go. So Clay had never had spaghetti and catfish together before and ever since the first time I made it for him. He asked me for this shit like every week. He could bring it. Tell me what you think. First bite.
Starting point is 02:26:54 Yeah. It is the best thing I've ever tasted. My favorite meal. Catfish spaghetti and Hawaiian rolls. Yo, somebody saved this nigga Clay, man. You know, the way Clay, every time Clay look over to the camera, man, that nigga looked like Jordan pool after he had to go back to practice with that nigga Dremont, man. He know, this look on his face right here,
Starting point is 02:27:24 he ain't trying to get popped in that, in that big nose of his, bro. Come on, he know he knows not to play around with her. He know not to play around with her. Uh-huh. And it just goes down. Oh, chill. It was good, that?
Starting point is 02:27:47 It was amazing. You could tell this is such a PR relationship. First of all, you can tell this nigga is shy as hell. Even when he's on a basketball court, this nigga shy. She's trying to show us that, no, no, no, I got a regular relationship so bad. And he does have a good reputation, at least. Well, maybe not because he's had a couple of girlfriend. But we look at him as non-problematic.
Starting point is 02:28:11 And I think she's trying to let people know I could have regular relationships. I just think this nigg is scared of her. as he shut. Look, that look was, yo, that look was what, you know when you were a kid and your mom tell you to finish your plate and you kind of look over like,
Starting point is 02:28:33 like, you just put all the food in your mouth, you ain't even like chew and swallow yet. You're like, is that good? Yeah, yeah, nigga, yeah, yeah. I didn't stand a chance. Oh, this? My favorite meal. Who would talk?
Starting point is 02:28:47 Cappas, spaghetti. Yo, you know Steph Curry and KD looking at this fool like If only this niggas was this scared Of missing a shot We would have won a couple more championship This thinger looked
Starting point is 02:29:04 This nigga looked terrified He looked petrified Here's some red sauce What's of y'all So Clay had never had spaghetti and catfish together before And ever since the first time I made it for him He asked me for this shit like every week He could bring it
Starting point is 02:29:19 Tell me what you think Yeah She got a camera in this niggas face every 20 seconds I've ever tasted my favorite meal My favorite meal, yeah, right Catfish spaghetti and a wine rolls And it just goes down When she started beating this nigga's ass
Starting point is 02:29:45 It's gonna be crazy Maybe what's good? So chill It was good, babe It was amazing Oh man, I keep telling you on man This shit ain't making it to All-Star weekend Man
Starting point is 02:30:14 If this relationship make it all-star weekend, this boy going to be on an injured reserve, and it might not be a basketball injury. Trust. Trust. A little eye fracture. You know? She might hit that nigga with a stunner, DDT, something like that.
Starting point is 02:30:28 Yo, you got to stop it. Dr. Umar, you got to stop it. I'm doing what you do. Repeat yourself three times when you say anything. Dr. Umar, you got to stop it. Dr. Umar. I sentenced you both to 2,500 lashes for conduct unbecoming a black man. I sentence you to 4,000 lashes for conduct unbecoming a black man.
Starting point is 02:30:59 Now, if y'all don't remember the last time we talked about Dr. Umar, Dr. Umar claimed that, you know, his bank accounts has been frozen because somebody tried to scam him. And they won't let him back in the bank account. So he needed like money from his supporters on cash app. Now, we were like, all right, well, maybe this is not a bad thing because, you know, he's not talking about the school. He's saying his personal funds got messed up. Then he comes back and said, oh, the school supposedly is going to auction because they said that I didn't pay something. You're like, huh?
Starting point is 02:31:34 Now, this is the latest thing, Dr. Umar is saying, chat. So, Graham, coming out for the ladies is called Lunch with the Doctor. It's called Lunch with the Doctor. You make a $500 donation to FDMG Academy, ladies. $500 donation to FDMG Academy, and you get a free lunch with Dr. Umar, restaurant of your choice in the state of Wilmington, Delaware. I said we got a new program called lunch with Dr. Umar.
Starting point is 02:32:02 Private lunch. Ladies, you got to donate $500 to the FDMG Academy, and I will take... Yo, I ain't going to lie to you, man. Dr. Umar is really the prince of panhandling. This is getting out of fucking control. Like, doctor, like, this is getting out of control. You know the worst thing about Dr. Umar?
Starting point is 02:32:32 He's always asking, he always got a hand out asking for some shit. And then he disguises it as a donation. That might be why he's in trouble now. You're calling everything a donation, niggins. Just say, you might as well just hold up a sign. Like some of them bums you'll see like, especially when you go to New York City and coming back. You know, I need $50 for weed, man. Stop saying we're donating for a school.
Starting point is 02:33:05 You to lunch, private lunch, any restaurant you want in the state of Delaware. It's called Lunch with the Doctor and it costs you $500. You don't pay for the lunch. I pay for the lunch. Any restaurant in the state of the, oh yes, brothers don't hate. We got to stop hating. Brothers, we got to stop hating. Don't hate my ninja because if I ask your wife if she want that luncheon
Starting point is 02:33:30 If I ask your wife if she want that luncheon if I ask your baby mom do she want that luncheon with the doctor We know what she gonna say ninja don't test my intellectual gangster if I roll up on your girlfriend Your living prisoner you call a girlfriend if I roll up on your living prisoner your romantic prisoner You call the girlfriend who ain't there because she wanted to be she there because she got to be if I roll up on your romantic prisoner my brother if I roll up on your romantic yeah I keep telling you I'm in when dr. Umar was sold to me he was like this you know basically this futuristic Malcolm Martin Luther King type of nigger then I started seeing basically the guy started talking about who got the best type of pussy and I was like hmm now he's talking
Starting point is 02:34:28 him out dates with what's going on with Dr. Umar man and he's still begging for donations here's what I could never understand why don't he just sell a product stop asking for random donations also if you're going to ask the donations and say this was going to a good cost
Starting point is 02:34:44 because it's supposed to be a good cost why isn't there like a website where you could track every donation coming in and then why are you taking some of these donations via like PayPal no not PayPal like cash app You call a girlfriend who living with you because she got to not because she want to do she want that lunch date with the doctor Do your wifey want that lunch date with the doctor?
Starting point is 02:35:11 I think we all know the answer to that. Me and you are not the same. I keep telling you that. Me and you, we're not the same. You not six three. Dark chestnut cocoa brown with the North Philly beard. You ain't with the North Philly beard. Leo King? Ninja? You ain't Pan-Africanist number one.
Starting point is 02:35:36 Nobody flying you to every continent to hear what you got to say. Only me. Don't make me take my t-shirt off and turn into King Kong right now. Don't make me beat my chest. Don't make me beat my chest. King Kong. Stop playing. Program coming out for the ladies. It's called Lunch with the Doctor. It's called Lunch with the Doctor. Niggins say, yo, the lunch is free. I'm paying for it after you paid me $500. This is great.
Starting point is 02:36:04 You make a $500 donation to FDMG Academy, ladies. $500 donation to FDMG Academy and you get a free lunch with Dr. Umar, restaurant of your choice in the state of Wilmington, Delaware. I said we got a new program called lunch with Dr. Umar. Private lunch. Ladies, you got to donate $500 to the FDMG Academy and I will take you to lunch. private lunch any restaurant you want in the state of delaware is called lunch with the doctor and it costs you five hundred dollars you don't pay for the lunch i pay for the lunch any restaurant
Starting point is 02:36:40 in the state of delaware you know this thing a doctor um or swear he's chris brown man you've seen them chris brown meet and greets that's what dr umma think he's doing man oh yes brothers don't hate we got to stop hating brothers we got to stop hating don't hate my ninja Because if I ask your wife if she want that luncheon, if I ask your wife if she want that luncheon, if I ask your baby mom, do she want that luncheon with the doctor? We know what she going to say, Ninja.
Starting point is 02:37:10 Don't test my intellectual gangster. If I roll up on your girlfriend, your living prisoner, you call a girlfriend. If I roll up on your living prisoner, your romantic prisoner, you call a girlfriend who ain't there because she wanted to be, she's there because she got to be. If I roll up on your romantic prisoner,
Starting point is 02:37:28 prisoner, my brother. If I roll up on your romantic prisoner, you call a girlfriend who living with you because she got to, not because she want to. Do she want that lunch date with the doctor? Do your wifie want that lunch date with the doctor? I think we all know the answer to that. Me and you are not the same. I keep telling you that. Me and you, we're not the same. You're not six three. Dark chestnut cocoa brown with the North Philly beard. You ain't Leo Kian. You. Ninja? You ain't Pan-Africanist number one. Nobody flying you to every continent to hear what you got to say.
Starting point is 02:38:07 Only me. Don't make me take my t-shirt off and turn into King Kong right now. Don't make me beat my chest. Don't make me beat my chest. King Kong. Stop playing. Program coming out for the ladies. It's called Lunch with the Doc.
Starting point is 02:38:24 Yo, Dr. U-Mah, man. Not like this, brother. Not like this. And I think everybody's giving him a lot of grace But the begging is getting out of hand man The prince of panhandling is is doing too much He's doing too much man All right
Starting point is 02:38:49 By the way There's a there's some chick who's like Breaking down I don't know why Dr. Omer is kind of looking like he's going out bad now bro Like I don't know Caldago Oh my bad You don't do any of that stuff when you run around doing podcast
Starting point is 02:39:23 Now I don't have a problem doing a podcast there are a few podcasts i will absolutely do but he's on tv he's doing something all the time this is somebody named evette carnell she she says she got the tea on dr umar he's always on somebody's show he's always in another country he's always at an event you need when you're doing something that has never been done you better sit down somewhere and shut up and figure it out i told y'all umar was half crazy when he went on uh joe button's part at the end of the part, he listed 20 things that he was about to do. I'm going to have a women's conference, a kids conference, a journalism conference. I'm going to have a conference for relationship.
Starting point is 02:40:03 I'm going to have a conference for people who like peanut butter. I said, did y'all hear this? This man listed out 10 different kinds of conferences that he's going to have. I said, do you understand how hard it is to put on one conference? But that's what happens when you're not a real leader and you just sitting around playing dolls. You remember when you had a doll and you was like, this dog this dog work at the school and this dog watch cars this dog right here he dried post office truck and you do do do do do do you want kid but when you get adult you figure out hey in order to do this i i i don't have all of the competencies for it you can't have all the competencies so who else who else who else can do it there's no way i'm going to write the do what
Starting point is 02:40:46 i do and write and and be and be good enough to write this reparations book right right So I each jumps in and she writes it. She has that expertise. Everybody don't have everything on it. Let's just say ain't no board. It's just day school because that's what I think. The 250K. We're talking about a boarding school.
Starting point is 02:41:04 That's how you're always running around like a big old child. Let me just put up a couple. I said, we're not going to be a long night. I don't want to spend no, I got stuff to do. I ain't got time to be. Oh, this man's crazy. I'm telling you it's something going on here. So we said license and accreditation.
Starting point is 02:41:18 That's 50 to 250K. We're talking about a boarding school. That's how he started out. initial staff and recruitment 200k to 500k and that's low because he's talking about that is a low that's low balling and we can just let's just say it's a day school that's still low balloting let's just say ain't no boy it's just day school because that's what I think we ended up with he we ain't no he low balding let's go to marketing admissions and outreach that's 50k to 150k let's go to working capital one million to two million to cover initial months
Starting point is 02:41:47 before tuition flows in typical startup cost low in 4.5 to 5 million dollars high end 15 million if you're building or gut rehabbing an older property. This is stupid. This has always been stupid. And for some reason, we don't, we're just unwilling to call a thing a thing. And we will sit back for years, not months, not days. We will sit back and for years and say, oh, you know, I got love for the brother. Let's give them a chance.
Starting point is 02:42:19 Hey, listen to me. I think Dr. Umar doesn't scam this. I can have love for you and say this is not, you're not, you can't do this. And, uh, and getting people their money back. Getting people their money back. You have to be able to, well, you cannot, well, we got to, five years in. We got to, we got a building. You don't have a building that works, sir, for what you're trying to do.
Starting point is 02:42:46 And you don't have the money for that. And I don't see you somewhere working to get that capital in. Like we shouldn't even, we shouldn't even see Omar unless somebody has him out somewhere fundraising. We shouldn't even see him. You see me when I'm out somewhere doing, I'm here because I don't at it. It's apparent to anybody with eyes to see, but we don't have eyes to see. We give all the wrong people a chance. Everybody who is trying to hustle, steal, here they come in, we came and we told y'all, hey,
Starting point is 02:43:20 Jay Morrison had a bankruptcy. He said he sold his own day to crack. You think about it. You think about it as a community What we could have done with all of that money You think about our politics You think about how we could help you do that And there has to be some type of return
Starting point is 02:43:36 Like I said with Ados and the Ados advocates fund I have done All right man Shout to Umar but I ain't gonna lie It's starting to look crazy for Umarber Starting to look real crazy for Dr. Umar Alright let me see what else is going on Fat Joe's speaking about Gunner's album He said he felt guilty
Starting point is 02:44:08 That he had to listen to a rat's album But he said it was fire You got Some guys that are the hottest guys in the game Rats Like I get a phone call for somebody He says yo man you got to check this album out Ever since there's
Starting point is 02:44:25 Listen Ever since I assumed you were rat Your people ain't put you no more you know, I'm not I'm off you, no matter what you do. And I get on the plane and I listen to this album, this album was so good.
Starting point is 02:44:45 I was so guilty of this shit. I listened to this album, I'm sick. They knew he's talking about gunning. I'm not saying. Throw the flag. Throw the flag. Now you got a flag. You got a flag.
Starting point is 02:44:57 You have a flag. Because we said we wasn't missing their names like that. You just said all that. All I said the album was fire. It's a million racks out there. You got my job that you like his album. Nah. And so what happens is?
Starting point is 02:45:11 You just said you liked it. Yo, one thing I would like about, again, and maybe I'm being a hypocrite here. But I don't like all of these, like, guys who come from tough backgrounds. Now trying to pick and choose with this, you know. And what I mean picking choose, they're acting like they're conflicting. I'm not convicted over this rat stuff. I'm not convicted over it. Whether Gunna is a rat or not a rat,
Starting point is 02:45:42 he's making some good music, I like it. I do want to say, though, for all of these guys who claim their gangsters and they come from tough backgrounds, if we've never seen you call out a rat that's from your community or that you've grown up with, leave Gunna alone, man.
Starting point is 02:45:59 Because, again, everybody selectively, like, you know, when they don't know Gunna or they're just piling on, Fat Joe In Fat Joe from the Bronx I'm pretty sure there's a lot of rats from the Bronx Figuratively and literally And
Starting point is 02:46:15 Maybe Fat Joe should speak on those people Being rats first You get what I'm saying But we're not going to hear Fat Joe speak on them And you know It kind of There's almost just like
Starting point is 02:46:30 Oh yeah We don't fuck with Gunna type of vibe But the honest truth is everybody nobody gives a fuck and everybody's acting like they're so against the idea of what gonna did like do i think he cooperated it pretty much did right even i know it was a plea i know it's out for plea but still like the yes ma'am it's a it's a why so's a criminal gang i felt like that that that aligned with telling but regardless
Starting point is 02:46:57 here's a thing i think that what i've learned about a lot of these street dudes they all know a few niggies who tell him from their hood. Same with Young Thug. This is why, like, even when Young Thug says, I'm like, Young Thug is acting like he had no idea that people were telling. Nick, everybody who I talked to from Atlanta said his ops, then why Fenn Niggas was telling him for the longest, yo, you know your guys are snitching at us.
Starting point is 02:47:21 And he didn't care. You didn't care until he felt he got snitched on. So, again, you know, it's easy to kind of, like, be like, oh, I'm not like this guy over here, but I think everybody selectively picks and chooses which rat they want to campaign against, and it's easy to kind of like act like you're not with the gun of trained, even though I see most people come back around. That's why they keep hedging their bets.
Starting point is 02:47:49 They're like, oh, yeah, he's a rat, but he's making good music. It has me a bet. But I'm wondering if Fat Joe would call out all the rats from the Bronx. There's a lot of them. You should call them out. just like I was calling out a rat from Atlanta. Atlanta ain't close to the Bronx. Regardless, if it takes being a quote-unquote rat for these artists
Starting point is 02:48:17 are locking and focus and actually make good music because the antics and all the other theatrics will not save you when it's music that only matters. I guess maybe there should be more rats. Because Gunna has realized that an interview won't save him, people liking him won't save him or cosign won't save him only good music will save him and he's in fact delivering that so maybe if if rappers got a little bit knocked off their pedestal and even if i guess i guess they're seen as whatever if they could lock in with music people would probably
Starting point is 02:48:50 identify with them a little bit more gonna do an interview but i don't think he said another interview what did he say on the interview what did he say on the interview what did he said a interview a month ago Yeah, but he'll be talking about nothing in the interview. You made hits. I made hits. I glad you just didn't listen to me. Like with that, with that one thing, you know what I mean? I'm glad, you know, move, no, with it.
Starting point is 02:49:26 And then I think when I play it back, I try to grab something that's this, you know, like, you might hear something out of that whole tape. You're like, oh, this is, this is it right here. You know, and I'm taking that and I'm going to build off of that. Yeah. I think that's the freest way to create. because it's like you responding to it. Like, that's the naturalist way to approach.
Starting point is 02:49:50 Now, remember this song that I played, and this was the preview of a song that didn't drop, but it was supposed to be on Baby's album that never came out. And this was the song where Doug was kind of like putting these guys on blast, and he put Gunn on Blast, but he also put Yack Gotti on Blast. Check it out. Yacht me for some years. I ain't know he was telling me was
Starting point is 02:50:20 K'noyal Jat'i on TV. Yack tricked me for some years. I didn't know he was telling. Now, good timing by Vlad, because Vlad got Yat Gotti on Vlad TV. And he explained, or he was confronted with what Thug said, and is what he said. All right, here we go. Yeah, Gotti. Welcome to Vlad TV. You did.
Starting point is 02:50:56 What's your black? Look, I had your lawyer, Doug Weinstein already on here, so solely right that I have you. Appreciate it, sure. Shut out of door. Congratulations on being your case, man. That was huge. Appreciate that. I don't think nobody's not told me that, Black.
Starting point is 02:51:10 Not nobody would, if it, not nobody on the other part, can. No, man, congratulations. That's a big deal. That's a big deal. To actually go all the way to the end and win it with a jury verdict. What you said? go all the way to end and win it with a jury verdict. I'm not guilty.
Starting point is 02:51:26 Not a plea deal. That boy, big deal. Congratulations. Congratulations to really having the guts to do that because most people try to, you know, tap out at the very end. Not you, though. Yeah. Not you.
Starting point is 02:51:39 Well, we have a lot to talk about, but I think the first thing we really need to cover is that young thug dropped a snippet from a song and he mentioned you in it. Tyson. You heard this. He said, yeah, Goddy, he tricked me. me for some years, I ain't know he was telling.
Starting point is 02:51:53 I tricked who? He said, yeah, Goddy. This is a young thug rapper. He said, yeah, Goddy, tricked me for some years. I ain't know he was telling. Who I told him? Then he also said in that same verse. He said, the only reason I fuck with you gonna.
Starting point is 02:52:08 It was because of truth. Lonely a truth, too, though. But who I told on? We got a dress. Like, we're going to call the spade the spade. We're going to dress. So let's address it. Who paperwork I'm in or who did or a day?
Starting point is 02:52:21 Now, we play this video already. I think Thug was talking about the infamous interrogation footage where he's eating a bunch of wings. And he said, yo, I ain't going to cap with you. You let me out. If you let me out, I could go get the information you need on them niggas. Or some time for yet, God. You know what I am?
Starting point is 02:52:44 That what this shit come down to. What I did that nobody else I ain't do. Take it all the way to the end. All right, then. FEC was a fact. Well, look, your lawyer actually made a statement about this. You know, Doug. Doug.
Starting point is 02:53:00 He said, Yack did not say a single thing about Jeff in his interviews with the cops. I don't know where this is coming from. Yack had the opportunity to turn on young thug during the trial to get out of the case easy. He never took it. He stood tall and took it all the way to the jury. Tight shit.
Starting point is 02:53:18 But at the same time, I ain't got nothing to turn on because, Nick, I didn't do. shit, you know what I'm saying. So it just still to the point where like, yo, they're trying to make me do this or say this just for the end, I can't do that. I ain't, first of all, that I need to, that I need with true.
Starting point is 02:53:38 Second, out, it's like, I stand on more principle than that. Nine time for it, by now to stand on the principle. I mean, did that bother you when you heard that? I ain't tripping, that's not bothered me at that point. I ain't seen. I ain't seen. everything down on the sun, what, though. Well, is you referring to the interrogation video that came out a while ago?
Starting point is 02:53:57 Is that what he's referring to? He probably, yeah. You've probably like, you got to talk to him. But if you are, it like, what, like, who did the day for me, who I told on, who got locked up about this shit, you know? I feel you. It is what it is, though, you know. Have you with contact to each other at all? I ain't contact no anything.
Starting point is 02:54:18 They can't contact me, so it's all. Oh, I think he has the whole thing where he can't be in contact with certain types of people, so... Tight shit. All right. Not you, though, because you were found not guilty, so you can talk to whoever you want. Tight shit. All right. Thank you for addressing that.
Starting point is 02:54:37 And I think the Douglas Weinstein can do this here. All right. All right. Thank you for addressing that. All righty then. Okay, let me see what else is going on. All right, Vlad. Okay, Vlad.
Starting point is 02:54:56 All right. So Gun is still doing this thing. By the way, the billboard. charts came back and it looks like let me see Gunna Gunna sold 80K which I think is pretty good like you know no bundles no nothing
Starting point is 02:55:17 just on the strength of music and you know playlisting his album did pretty good yeah he sold 80,000 with his record I think the last one that's what it's called yeah gonna sells 80 He debuted number three on the billboard charts.
Starting point is 02:55:45 And yeah, I'm going to be honest with that. I still think it's a W for him. His last project, I think it did around like 67 or something like that. So this is a, you know, he's kind of fine in the medium now. It's clear that number one, with or without young thug being out or with or without young thug support, he's going to have a career. As long as he keep putting up good music, he's going to be good. So I don't think he's the hottest artist right now, but like he's,
Starting point is 02:56:11 kind of still in isolation, so selling 80 while kind of being blackballed to a certain extent, especially from Atlanta artists, even though there are some Atlanta artists who fuck with him. I think that's some good shit. So congratulations, Sam. All right, let me see.
Starting point is 02:56:30 What is this? What is this? Blueface mom reacts to viral AI generated photos of him in prison. So first off, that's not my son's skinny little fingers and hands are tatted. What the hell? What the Why is Blueface doing a split? So the mom said first of all that's okay
Starting point is 02:57:07 Yeah, that's just AI But AI's gotten so pretty good I don't know why Blue Face even took those pitches Oh I guess people are calling him a snitch Because they said he was in PC Bro, you know what's so funny And this is why I think whack is so good You could use the the accusation of being a snitch
Starting point is 02:57:29 To get any nigga to crash out and do whatever you want Yeah, so these are the original pictures. Yeah, you could use the idea or the accusation that somebody's a snitch and they will crash the fuck out. I see why Wack does it because I think Wack does that pretty good. Like he'll kind of like throw it in the air like, you're working. Now somebody like, think about Zay Osama. Zay Osama's ready to say, yo, I'm going to kill Wack.
Starting point is 02:57:59 Right? And then did y'all notice when the conversation was happening? Wack says something very interesting. and Wax says. So you're telling me, like, it's, it's mad, funny. Let me go play it. And I was just like, this is why Wax smarter than an average beer. Like, I don't know if the guy's on supervised release,
Starting point is 02:58:16 but like, you're going to walk yourself into a jail cell fucking with Wack 100. Trust. Here we go. It was like, right? What do you get this from? Don't say nothing. I don't even want to keep arguing. Hey, what Mimo do with him doing?
Starting point is 02:58:30 I'm doing. I'm a big dog. Hey, Mimo, a whole different. Listen, Nemo a whole different person from me. Oh, shit, gang. That's disrespectful, gang. So you said to stop. I want to make sure we got this right.
Starting point is 02:58:45 Once Wag says so, I'm going to make sure we got this right. This is how when they're typing up the indictment, they start, like, quote. Right here. You don't want to squabble is gunplay. That's what you're saying, right? You don't want to squabble is gunplay. That's such a wild thing to say. But he got him charged up, so of course he's going to just say, yes.
Starting point is 02:59:10 On my life, you're playing my name like that. You said, you're still, a little boy. Hell yeah, it's gunplay. Oh, no. Like, that was the moment right there is like, yeah. I'm talking about a snitch. I'm glad you said. Talking about a snitch.
Starting point is 02:59:26 I'm glad you. I swear to die, you can call anybody in L.A. right now. Even probably some people you know, I didn't probably rob their ass or blew their ass down. Oh, no. So you said when you see you're talking about I do this. And then and then Wack gets the additional confirmation. So you said when you see me, you're going to shoot me, right? So you said,
Starting point is 02:59:53 I'm talking about I do this. This is my lifestyle, dude. I'm not no internet nigger. I'm not no internet nigger. So I want to make sure I hear this right. Yo, whack is too good. I want to make sure I hear this right Wack you know damn well you heard it right
Starting point is 03:00:08 The first three times You said I'm a snitch right You're on the internet doing a lot of work You said I'm a right Or a nigga to be on parole You feel comfortable And white no is criminal history With anything
Starting point is 03:00:19 You're on parole You're on parole You said I'm a snitch right You said I'm a snitch right You cooperate You're in It's nothing else to talk about What we talk about
Starting point is 03:00:29 What we talk about? You don't want I'm talking about it's I'm a see you for you see me I can promise that's cool you did not what you want i did you never doing it before you
Starting point is 03:00:42 no boy you don't want to do it no more you love your life i don't that was a crazy line you love your life i don't wow likes like undefeated man hopefully he doesn't get locked up i mean
Starting point is 03:01:01 um what's the name uh ozama all right why he'll sires says that he's going to be the biggest rnb singer nah oh this is the part we didn't play the killer said that the other dude gave him the gun to kill what's the name like the gun jammed though paper out who jistin them went back and told quip said me and bobby so caught me to get up or whatever so you know quick was like y'all had y'all mad on jessing them told him we ain't have that man's on i ain't have my man's on i ain't have my man's on
Starting point is 03:01:43 No man knew that this was going on. Right. He didn't want gave me the gun to go out there. He asked that you have a mask. Right. Right. He asked me. And he was saying like, Justin Nell was telling him that we messed it up or whatever.
Starting point is 03:01:58 That's when Bob was like he ain't doing nothing with nobody. He ain't getting involved in or whatever because we believe everything just in them say. You know, at this time, we basically were telling me like you were Johnson and you were gesturing them. You know what I'm saying? Underbid, you want to get this money. Since Bobby acting like he agging, you know what I'm saying? Oh, ooh, who I don't know what you said? Since Bobber acting like he agging, he told me to give with Justin and him, you know,
Starting point is 03:02:26 sent Bobby had to get it in the gun jammed those paper out who would cut up. A gold man told you to give with Justin? Yeah, he told me to give with Justin. Okay. And what reason was he telling you to get with Justin? So we go find one of the paper out of any artists to get this. all this to get through the money, you know. So what would gold band gain out of you all getting a band on there,
Starting point is 03:02:56 or hit on one of the paper route? He was getting a cut out of it. You know, he's probably got $10,000 for me. No matter who you hit or if it was... No, young dog, he's probably got $10,000. I did $100,000. I did $50,000. He was getting $10,000.
Starting point is 03:03:12 So throughout the summer going into the fall, did you and Justin and Govan ever meet? It will meet up over quick house. Oh, Govan told you to get with your... You know, it's always an open and shut case once one of the shooters is on the stand. He's connecting all the dots. All right, let me see. Prosecutor's sick.
Starting point is 03:03:53 Chat, I need some topics, chat. What the fuck? Yo, it's 246 already? Holy shit. Is there nothing else going on in hip-hop, man? But it's Drake lawsuit, dog? Okay, have y'all seen the Chris Brown Meet and Greed pitches?
Starting point is 03:04:33 This should have been going crazy this year. Chris Brown. They're having a whole competition with the Chris Brown meeting greet pitches. So people have... What the fuck? She brought her baby scan to the meeting greet with C. Breezy?
Starting point is 03:04:53 Yeah, C. Breezy's doing. the most. What the fuck? They're doing handstands, all type of shit. Damn. Imagine your girl upon Chris Breezy like that. This one right here, Chris Brown's taking off her panties.
Starting point is 03:05:19 Yeah, does these girls got boyfriends or like nobody gives a fuck? Grop's doing overtime right now. Yeah, this is Chris Brown taking off show these panties. How much is this fucking meet and greet? Oh, it's just $2,000. Most sources say
Starting point is 03:05:44 It was $2,000 for Chris Brown to, oh, it was a garter, not a penny. For Chris Brown to remove it. Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, there's a couple of niggies taking pisses with him too. Okay. What the fuck? All right, let me just click off of this right now. All right, but anyway, Chris, I want to see what Chris Brown's tour is gross in.
Starting point is 03:06:23 Let me see if I can find touring data. Yo, I had to, I had to damn to cut my phone off when Chris Brown came to town. Everybody was hitting me. That's typical find some Chris Brow revenue data. Chris, no? Is his info not being reported? I know he's selling out everywhere. Yeah, they don't have his data.
Starting point is 03:07:06 Okay, whatever. We looked at that before. We looked at that before. Chad, where the fuck are the topics at, bro? Just walk around. $100? $100. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:07:28 No, no, no. Every single time I tell myself, man, you young, man. It's okay. I have a wife right now. You don't need to settle down. You just slow down. You know, just live your life. These old heads prove me right every single time.
Starting point is 03:07:47 Give me the wife. Give me the wife. Slim Thug. Shaquille O'Neill. Shane is Sharp. They're just some old losers. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 03:08:00 I was reading a book or listen to a podcast. I can't remember. But it was just talking about some things that you don't want to be as a man. One of the things you don't want to do is just. chase women your whole life being a womanizer that should never ever add up to being any type of anything that's taking you away from your family and family time isn't taken away from the natural joy your life the natural wealth in in life and living making life worth living chasing money your whole life that makes life not worth living who are you getting all this money to spend it
Starting point is 03:08:30 with if it's not family you know what I'm saying if you want to be a every single to be a womanizing you chase women your whole life or you enjoy? Are you just trying to prove the other men that you are the best predator? I don't understand. This ain't the jungle. It really be baffling to me. Like, Shaq,
Starting point is 03:08:54 if you really was concentrated on your passions and your families and staying disciplined, you could have been, you literally could have been the best player to ever live. Easy. Easy. You run around chasing tail, and eating cheese burgers and run come on man not even showing up the workouts no discipline i don't
Starting point is 03:09:14 want to be like a man like that i don't care how much money shot got i would never want shacks life to pass away that way no no i don't want that slim thug does so much for the community but now we got to see you in this loser's light because you can't just settle down and develop your character and now be a woman i'm you chase women in your whole life or you to be with one woman you're chasing around women 15 years younger than you 20 years younger than you it's just a bad look no matter how much you're doing the community if you don't have a discipline in a way we thought to keep a good woman by your side a lot of people going to look at you sideways i'm just saying shana sharp you could be mental into you if you
Starting point is 03:09:59 grew up poor in the country you could be helping out these young men in a personal way not just giving money but you running around with oaf girls getting caught up getting lawsuits losing your money telling you man all of these things take you away from the natural joys and the natural wealth of life y'all y'all not enjoying the fruits of y'all labor i know y'all a lot of dudes gonna say man i'll take shock life anything well that's you and that's why you you you and i'm me because i i don't need all the money in the world. I need enough money where my family to be with one woman you're chasing around women 15 years younger than you, 20 years younger than you. It's just enough money where my family can feel financially stable and free to do what we like to do. That's how much money I need. I got a
Starting point is 03:10:53 number of my head. I don't need the number that you need me to have. You know what I'm saying? I don't I don't need to have all the women in the world. I need to have the confidence and swag to back the right woman. That's the all I need. I need enough confidence and swag and character development to back the right woman to make that my wife. And I'm cool. I'm Gucci. I don't need all of that. I want to have my family time and my passions in life and that's it.
Starting point is 03:11:23 Hiking, white water rafting and stuff. Montego Bay. You know what I'm saying? Martinique with the fam. I'm not doing what I'm doing what I don't like what I're doing. It don't even sit right with me as lose activity to me. enough money Now, I don't know what this thing is talking about.
Starting point is 03:11:43 I'll definitely say I do think, you know, family should be a goal of everybody, but I think it's equally loser behavior to sit around and be obsessed with whatever the hell. Shaq, Shannon Sharp, slim thugging, the rest of these people are doing. Focus on yourself. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:12:02 Different strokes of different folks. Not because you. are into family and this and third means that even though I ain't going to lot of you. It was kind of alarming that that me and Shaq was going after the same tricks. But hey, it is
Starting point is 03:12:18 but, yo Shaq tried marriage before, man. Didn't he try with Shawnee O'Neill? What should do, cheat on him or something? I don't know. I think he just said, man, he's just going to be in the streets and he won't do what he want to do. So he's got, it is what it is. He a grown ass, man. If this is what gives him happiness in this point of his life he's worked most of his life to get to the point that he's at
Starting point is 03:12:43 who am i to tell him how he should live his life so i don't have an issue with it i don't think he's affected me so again maybe his actual family's looking at like damn dad like you still over here trying to fuck like 21 year old girls like what the hell are you doing you don't spend time with us you're chasing these chicks from hotel to hotels but i don't necessarily you know I don't care that much that I would think it's an issue like how this guy sees it. This guy sees that as a big issue. Surveillance video shows a person boldly moving in the dark to pour liquid on a midlothian home around 1 a.m. Tuesday. The same person sets fire and runs away.
Starting point is 03:13:44 Inside the Wilson home where the fire is set were two kids and six adults, including Myla Rivera. It hit me because I smelled gas, and gas is like really, really strong. Her sister woke her up and her father, who thought he was dreamy. I grab cups. Fill both big cups up. I open the door. Surveillance video shows a person. Throwed a big cups because it was a fire in front of the door.
Starting point is 03:14:13 The emergency crews responded as his wife made an unsettling discovery. The fire was said intentionally. I was shocked. I'm like, this can't be real. Who would do this? Like, we keep ourselves. Melothian police confirm an arson investigation at that home. Police tell us that they are working several leads.
Starting point is 03:14:34 Myla even posted the video to help work the crime on social media. I wouldn't wish this to anyone. Throw the big cups because it was a fire in front of the door. Sorry, it's just your own daughter. And it's like, you know. First person I got to check is your 21 year old boyfriend man That's it. It's probably a boyfriend of one of the the women that's in the house Yeah, that's the first people I would check
Starting point is 03:15:17 Let me see what's up with this I see the messages Everybody saying oh my god, what are you gonna do the Chris Brown challenge? When are you gonna do the dance challenge? You know what? You ask and you shower Because you never had a like this before What the f*** are you doing, man? I'm sorry. Why don't you stay on the lyrics?
Starting point is 03:15:45 All right, man. It's a dance challenge. No, you can't do it. What a f*** you just say that? Come on, man. Stop. All right. Seriously, man.
Starting point is 03:15:53 Seriously. I'm about to do it. Okay. As far as that situation, I don't feel like that was a crash out situation. That was a situation where I was in a relationship with a guy for six years. and a girl was introduced to me by this guy during a birthday trip, and next thing I know she was pregnant.
Starting point is 03:16:33 I don't think that's a crash shot. I think that was a real, I was reacting in real time to being lied to, and you know what I'm saying? So it just was what it was. And I still never made it about the girl, because one thing about me is always the guy. Shout out to Jersey, man.
Starting point is 03:16:52 I want to hear a record. My biggest year may be, happened, I found out the same year that my son has autism. He went from being very verbal to just start deteriorating. Like, he stopped talking. Me not being there, especially when I tell my son, you'll never not see me a day in your life. This is why I don't even like talking about it, man. But that, that, yeah, that take a lot out of me because it's like, but it's like I'm doing it for him. Right. Right. So I can't really, you know what I'm saying? I can't stop doing it because they're how, he's going to eat, everything that he could ever want, you know what I'm saying, he got.
Starting point is 03:17:30 It just, it take away, it takes a toll on me though because I'm not there. You know what I'm saying? All right, man, hang on more topics, man. I'm getting a follow off here. 3 o'clock. I'm out of here. I'm going to try to get my schedule back on, on, on, on deck. Hopefully tomorrow I could stream a little bit earlier because this late night streaming shit.
Starting point is 03:17:57 It is not, we're at four hours, but it's three o'clock. Not good. So I'm getting the fuck off here. I'll be back tomorrow. I feel like we only talk about a drink today. It kind of sucks. Jesus Christ. Forgive me, forgive me, forgive me, forgive me.
Starting point is 03:18:12 Yeah. Hit me with some topics. We'll get to it tomorrow. But it's three o'clock, chat. I got to fix my sleep schedule. Otherwise, we're just going to go down a path of me eventually try to miss a day, trying to fix it. So let me try to fix it today.
Starting point is 03:18:25 All right, chat. I love y'all. I will see you all tomorrow

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