DJ Akademiks Live Streams - Waka Calls out 50 over Diddy doc? 6ix9ine SENT Back to Prison. Tory Denied again. Wild Jay Z theory?

Episode Date: December 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to see if tonight we could hit actual topics. I know last night, I think we got sidetracked about half the stream with the list that just came to me impromptu. So hopefully we could kind of hit some topics. I'm trying to look at, you know, the uploads. Sometimes I forget what topics I cover. Because I'm sure I was making topics of tonight and I'm like, hmm, did I cover the 6-9 thing?
Starting point is 00:00:26 And then I see that drill uploaded me covering the 6-9 thing, so I did cover it. So I don't know if that's a good thing. good thing or a bad thing. Hopefully that topic isn't done like chopped cheese. Anyway, welcome y'all. I know this is late, so we're going to try to be expeditious in everything we're doing tonight. We might get to a little bit slower part of the stream if, you know, time permits. But like off top, and yes, I'll close it. Off top, we're going to try to knock a lot of these topics off the list pretty quickly. Some of these topics have been lingering and some of these topics that just haven't got to for whatever reason. okay by the way ain't there like some fight going on tonight some UFC shit
Starting point is 00:01:08 thing it's streamer awards and all that type of stuff all right I'll react to some of the stream award stuff if you guys care about it but we're gonna get to just regular little topics all right first and foremost you know the news has came down Tory Lane's petition for appeal seemingly has reached another roadblock. Okay? If you guys don't know, Tori Lanes is trying to get out of prison.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And he's... I'm gonna call it straight with you out, man. Tori's down to about a few options. And he actually got a big denial recently and then a big confirmation of the denial that sets his petition for getting released severely back. So let's get up to speed with what's going on and I'll try to break it down as much as
Starting point is 00:02:25 possible. So first of all, if you guys don't know, you know, some of these things you guys can look up yourself. You go to type in California, appeals, court, case search. You can kind of look up everything yourself. First link, just click on it or maybe not. Okay. Second link, click on it.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Right? And you just have to figure out what. district it is he's in Los Angeles that is actually in the first no no that's in the second district actually yeah the second district is they serve Los Angeles so this is second district you just click on that bit
Starting point is 00:03:01 and then if you go to search case okay maybe it's not working tonight but it should be searched appellate case info it is not working tonight wow I just pulled it up
Starting point is 00:03:16 here we go I'm trying I literally just pulled it up down here Am I tripp? Maybe it's down Anyway, I do have a list of the appeals he had And I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna call it straight On
Starting point is 00:03:47 On Here we go Pellet It's up District Courts Yeah, the site's down Okay Wow
Starting point is 00:04:09 Just my look I literally looked it up like While I was prepping for stream Anyway, Tories has followed about like four appeals and I guess I'll just summarize what's going on um he filed and let me see if I still have it on the screen right here does that work oh shit it did work fuck oh we just look it up like that appellate cases court info c a govc uh. search that work anyway it's not working whatever the site's now
Starting point is 00:04:59 I think the stream just got cut. Did everything get cut? Are we still live? Okay, I think we're still good. No, no, we're good. I bet. Okay, so, here it is. It popped up.
Starting point is 00:06:08 It was somewhat with my internet settings. If you guys look it up, you just look at Peterson Daystar. This is the California Second Appellate District court website. If you look it up, you'll notice Tori has had a bunch of appeals. Some of the
Starting point is 00:06:25 appeals he's filed was the habeas corpus appeals now what these are uh i've told you guys a million times these are like yo prove to me while you're denying me a right right that's what habeas corpus is so it's like a latin phrase but you would submit that petition and you can submit the petition for anything usually people do it for either bond or people do it for like you know wrongful convictions but they they feel like say say you say i i did something it comes out later in court or it comes out later based on new information that I didn't do it or someone else said they did it, I could file this petition basically saying, why am I sitting in jail when you guys have solved the crime or new information or new technology
Starting point is 00:07:09 points to me actually being innocent, right? So it's a way to get out of jail or reverse certain decisions in the court system. I still call the Hail Mary. Tori first filed it, and when he first filed in 2020, Let's go to the disposition. It's going to tell us what happened to it. That was actually denied, right? Now, I'm not going to get into the nitty-gritty of each of these appeals.
Starting point is 00:07:35 But, you know, it was him basically saying, yo, you guys didn't do the process, right? This was biased. My lawyer was against me, all that type of stuff, right? He filed a second habeas corpus. And this is when, you know, we came with the, yo, the DNA's, my DNA wasn't following the gun. the driver didn't get a chance to testify. He has a written affidavit saying, I didn't do it. And he filed another one, which I guess both of them got denied at the same time.
Starting point is 00:08:09 So that was actually, so that was actually, we called it again, that was in August. So, yeah, that was in August. But the latest appeal, and this kind of like closes the door, if you ask, This closes the door on Tory Lane's getting out, pending a few other options. And here we go. We're going to actually open the appeal, the opinion. But this was the appeal for a new trial, right? And give me, let me see here, let me see here.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Yep, okay. And essentially, the appeal for the new trial, which is the main appeal. So the habeas corpus was always like a hailman. This is like fourth and 59, right? The appeal for the new trial was saying this trial should, I need a new trial because based on how the trial went, things happened that made it unfair. And I'm going to go over to the decision, what they said. But regardless, they affirmed the decision that, yo, Tori, you're not getting out on that either, right? and there's a last appeal in here
Starting point is 00:09:24 and let me see this one's from way back yeah so currently you know currently um tory's appeals all of them have pretty much been denied
Starting point is 00:09:40 you know he's kind of like at this point he's kind of like he's not going to get out pending a pardon at this point you know or some like inordinate circumstance where they can submit another appeal. Anyway, let me just kind of read quickly this opinion. And this is the opinion. So the way it works in appeal court, they don't do guilty or innocent. They usually agree with a decision a lower court
Starting point is 00:10:07 is made, and then they give an opinion of why they're interpreting the law that way. So they've agreed that Tory Lane's trial, there's nothing in that trial procedurally that requires him to get a new trial and they're standing on the decision that he had a fair trial. And also the other appeal, which was the habeas corpus on, yo, I have been denied my right to get out based on, you know, they haven't done enough to prove that I'm the one who actually shot Meg. That was also denied as well, right? So let me kind of go over what the pain of the court is. And they kind of lay out some facts that they're saying it was affirmed by the trial. So they're saying they went to some,
Starting point is 00:10:57 they went to Kylie's house at some point. They texted Peterson. They told him to come. When Peterson shows up, it was really late. Eventually, eventually Meg wanted to leave. Meg,
Starting point is 00:11:06 her friend and personal assistant, they got, Megan Kelsey and Tori got in the SUV driven by Jaquan. Argument starts. Meg asked to be let out. Meg gets out so walking away. heard Peterson say dance bitch dance Peterson poured a gun at her
Starting point is 00:11:23 she froze she heard shots she looked down on her feet she saw blood she dropped to the ground crawled in the driveway felt pain to both her feet after he got blurry she saw Peterson Harrison Harrison walking towards her Peterson started apologizing she got back in the car she heard police eye rings said please y'all don't say nothing I'm about to sign a big deal
Starting point is 00:11:39 I give both y'all million dollars each um Harrison sent a text to Justin who was her security saying help Tori shot Meg police stop the SUV They asked everyone to get out Pete told the police
Starting point is 00:11:54 She stepped on glass She didn't tell them she'd been shot When asked the trial Why she told the police Why she stepped on glass She said that There was the murder of George Floyd What
Starting point is 00:12:03 And she testified that she didn't know If she was gonna shoot If they were gonna The police was gonna shoot first And ask questions later Okay anyway This is kind of laying down All that type of stuff
Starting point is 00:12:15 That they're saying came out in trial they mentioned a text message that Tori says where he's like I know you probably never ever going to talk to me again but bras wanted to say yo I was so fucking drunk I would never do some shit like that no regardless I'm gonna make everything right I'm deeply sorry so I feel crazy and you know again they're utilizing this damn message and I ain't going on like probably one of the most regrettable um voicemails tories probably ever sent tory lane's apology let's see if we can hear it Nope. It's one of the crazier stories we've heard of guys. I know. That's not it. Here we go. We're trying to get the, yeah, it was like I was too drunk.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Foot. But it's potential. Where is that? You guys have heard it a million times. Um. That, this is him talking to Kelsey. But he did leave a voicemail for Meg. This is a freak.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Hey. Huh? Oh, no, no. He called Kelsey. I think that thing is cropped or is panned, I mean So I gotta just click on this on I know There's a lot
Starting point is 00:14:22 A lot that happens But you're listening to street TV When I got to one time, niggas He gave me like five shots like off the door The craziest part about this Tori Tories Tories succumbed to Baddy Badi Shot o'clock
Starting point is 00:15:01 That's what got Tory out of here, man Tori shows up to the party He sees Kyley, she's looking fond as ever Feel me? He made sure you. He gave that little spray on, make sure that, you know, the ball spots are good. They're like, baddy, baddy, shot a clock. He takes a shot.
Starting point is 00:15:15 You know what I mean? He's, like, he's peeping game. He's seen what's good. You know him, you know, a nigga, like Tori's shirt off already. He's ready to get up in that pool. He really trying to get up in college. Another shot. Shottie.
Starting point is 00:15:26 What was it? Baddy, bad he shot, a clock. Another one, nigger. Five shots in, man, Tori's lit. Like, Brown, even though I don't even remember what he was arguing about, like, right? Yeah. You know what y'all arguing about.
Starting point is 00:15:40 No, I don't, I don't, I didn't, I was already fucked up by the time you got this, so I don't know how much. It's like, you know, let me tell me what, she here. Okay, then you ask about me. Okay, so they're using that, they're saying that, you know, based on these things that was brought into the trial, you know, it kind of affirms the decision in that these are all fair play, you know? It says the people charged a Tory with assault of a semi-automatic firearm on Pete and having a concealed firearm not registered to him in a vehicle. And also discharging a firearm with gross negligence. In count one, they alleged that Peterson used the firearm. And in counts one and three, the people allege that Peterson personally inflicted great bodily injury onto Pete.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Okay. They also alleged aggravating factors under the California's rule of court. They went to trial. everybody they're saying who testified dissent third cool so they kind of go over and they summarize the whole trial right then let's just get to it says
Starting point is 00:16:52 here's the discussion and this is where now you're going to hear the appellate court kind of um start to lay out how they're viewing this entire thing right so they said Peterson contends the trial court abused his discretion in allowing testimony and evidence concerning pizza motion
Starting point is 00:17:10 about the incident and aftermath on direct examination. So you got to remember, part of Tori's appeal is like, yo, why did y'all forcibly play Kelsey's conversation with the prosecutor where she basically accused Tori of doing it when she got on a stand
Starting point is 00:17:30 she didn't accuse Tori of doing it, right? And also she had all the protections that we would probably get the most truthful version of her there she didn't accuse Torre of doing it But you're going to hear the appellate court Basically say hey this is common practice If somebody don't remember understanding you talked to the prosecutors before They could play what you talk to the prosecutors
Starting point is 00:17:48 Instead to jog your memory, right? So cool, all right I'm doing it. What else? They had some follow-up Okay, Pete testified All right, this is a whole lot of shit So whole lot
Starting point is 00:18:04 And by the way, you guys are more than welcome to I'll make sure I download it I'll download it and make sure I upload it for y'all, right? It'll be on the website. Okay. Peterson asserts that the prosecution explicitly and improperly introduced racial bias into the proceedings by asking a witness
Starting point is 00:18:24 about what appears to be a tattoo of a firearm in the middle of his chest. The defense witness, Culbertson, testified that he was styly, Meg Stiles and friend, but he was also the driver for Meg as well at times, okay? So they're talking about, you know, I guess they asked that person, you ever seen Toro with a gun? They said, nah.
Starting point is 00:18:45 They ever seen him around guns? Nah. And then on cross-examination, they asked about, I guess they asked about a tattoo. Okay. Anyway. And these are the line of questions. Do you see that big gun tattooed Tori has on its chest? He says, no, I haven't seen Tori's body.
Starting point is 00:19:08 And that's what the stylist said. Okay. So these are the things that they're summarizing everything. They're summarized what happened in court. Now they're summarizing what Tories claiming is inappropriate. And so the trial court did not impermissibly chill his right to testify. As he didn't testify, he cannot raise this issue or appeal. So it looked like they're saying that Tories even appealing that, yo, I was going to take the stand,
Starting point is 00:19:32 which is kind of crazy because, you know what I mean? I think that was a firm decision for him to not take the stand. so they're saying bro if you got one chance to take the stand you ain't take the stand that's you're bad the jury did not hear peterson's account of the regarding that night in question the court ruled that if he had testified the prosecutor could introduce his music video and rap lyrics during cross-examination okay um midway during the case they told the court they were asking to inquire by prior acts of violence if he testified to rebut the character evidence put on by the defense the court replied well I think okay cool you said did you so the court has said so mr. mr.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Medesian you advised me your client's not going to testify right and said that's correct uh Tori you know you have the absolute right to testify if you choose right said you know you have an absolute right not to testify if that's your decision if you testify you'll you'll take the stand and be questioned just like any other witness blah blah and tory basically said in his own voice yes your honor i'm not going to take this thing said, did you have a chance to discuss with your attorney? He says, yes, I have. So, based on your discussion, is your choice to not take the stand.
Starting point is 00:20:48 He says he won't take the stand. So there's the issue of taking a stand, and then also what comes into play if he takes a stand? If he takes a stand, they could bring up his past violence, right? So if he was fighting at the club, he was getting into other situations. Neither Peterson or his counsel ever told the court that Peterson wished to testify, but was deterred by the prospect of impeachment by the prosecution.
Starting point is 00:21:13 So they're saying there was nothing in the air to make Tory feel like if he testified this was a plot to get him impeached by the prosecution even if they didn't get a conviction. Instead of the mention of Peterson's criminal case in Florida was not prejudicial. Okay, so I guess they brought up a case that Tory had and that came out when
Starting point is 00:21:40 Tory When they're going over what Tori allegedly said in the car While the police is behind them remember they're getting pulled over right They said Tory not only offered a million dollars Tori looked back and say yo listen yo I'm on probation basically saying yo If they catch me with this gun they think I did this I'm going to jail y'all And they're saying that because that was mentioned it might have prejudiced the jury To kind of like make them feel like you know this thing is
Starting point is 00:22:10 already a criminal, right? That's why he's on probation. So that's another thing that was raised, and by the way, the appellate court is basically saying, nah, we don't agree with that. So the trial court did not err in, permit the prosecution to play for the jury a prior inconsistent statement. So this is the Kelsey Harris thing. So they allowed that to. So they're saying that they agree. And they said the trial court did not abuse his discretion in the omitant evidence regarding the Instagram post. So Tori didn't want an Instagram post, admit it, which was, what was that? Oh, that's when Tori's account commented when people accuse Kelsey of shooting Meg. Tori's account commented not true.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Now, Tori's lawyers came on and said, yo, mad people use his account. We don't know if it's Tori. and essentially they said that might be the case but but we have no idea if that is or isn't the case and this is why it's subject to either the belief of the jurors because it's a it's a common Instagram that tory himself uses okay so they denied that or they you know they affirmed basically that trial court properly instructed a jury on count one on the firearm enhancement now the Fire enhancement is what got him that 10 years, I believe. It says it contends the trial court reversibly erred.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And it's instruction on the count one and count one alleged assault with a semi-automatic firearm. And count two alleged having a conceal unregistered firearm in a vehicle violating blah, blah. Okay, cool. Yeah, that firearm enhancement is what got Tory to 10 years. So they're saying to prove assault with a firearm, the prosecutor must, one, prove the defendant did act with a firearm, and that by nature would have been directly and probably result of the application of force for a person. Number two, that they acted willfully. Number three, the fact that the defendant acted, and he was aware of the facts that it would lead a reasonable person to realize that this act by nature
Starting point is 00:24:25 would directly and probably result in the application of force to someone. And four, when the defendant acted, he had present ability to apply force with the firearm. Okay, a bunch of BS. All right. So they firm that too. Okay. So that enhancement got him extra time. And let's see what else.
Starting point is 00:24:46 The prosecutor's statements in closing arguments do not require reversal. So they're saying that Peterson contends that the prosecution engaged in prosecutorial misconduct and making improper comments during closing arguments. So according to Peterson, the improper comments consisted of improper appeals to emotion and sympathy for the victim arguing facts not in evidence and denigrating the defense counsel now now here's the thing about opening and closing statements those are narrative based um sorry those are narrative base uh um offerings to the jury and usually the judge will say hey listen in opening statements it's it's a um a narrative about what you're going to see
Starting point is 00:25:31 and everything said there does not need to be proven immediately or might not need to be proven during a trial and you have to make that distinction. If they say an open trial, hey, we're going to prove that this guy stole the candy from the store. They never proved that this guy stole the candy from the store. That's still fair game as an opening statement. It's on the jury to say, well, you told us what was going to be proven.
Starting point is 00:25:58 It wasn't proven. So it's supposed to be taken, not. is evidence. Evidence is the testimony by witnesses and the testimony, well, and the quote-unquote exhibits that are entered into evidence, right? Okay. So basically they're saying that, you know, they were appealing to the emotion of the jury because obviously Meg is crying. It's like, you know, it's a whole victim thing, also mega celebrity. But the court is saying, yo, you could definitely appeal to the jurors, you know, soft spot. pause on what they have for Meg and Meg's, you know, injury or whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Okay, good. Let's see what else. The record doesn't support Peterson's contention that prosecutor, prosecutorial misconduct interfere with his right to a conflict-free counsel. And that is Sean Hawley. And they're saying that Sean Holly, oh, they're saying that he wanted to add another lawyer, which is the lawyer he added later when the Sean Ali dropped. But they're saying that, okay. So it looked like, oh.
Starting point is 00:27:25 So he's contending. I didn't have enough time to get my new lawyer up to speed, and I wasn't allowed to bring him on initially. So really, like, my lawyers were unprepared, essentially, right? So, yeah, that they're saying, no, nigga, we don't believe that either. Then he says, um, imposing the midterm. Okay. He's contended that the trial court reversely erred in erred and inclined to impose the lowest possible sentence.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And, yeah, it says the trial court found four factors in aggravation. So again, this is all about, this is now the sentencing. All right, I don't lie. They basically told Corey, no. I'm not Corey, Tori, no to everything. All right. you guys gonna be able to read that on the website i'm not gonna just like spoon feed everything here but i kind of went over the main factors that tory was claiming on a um on an appeal for
Starting point is 00:28:29 a new trial and also there was a part there as well that could have been an appeal the appeal could be granted in part with a lower sentence as well they basically affirmed everything which is yo you got the right amount of years 10 you got the right trial. They're not going to say the right verdict because that's on the jury, but they're saying nothing in the trial was Fugazi, which means you need another trial. Okay. So in short, let's just put it together. In short, what this is, is that Tory Lane's all his appeals have been exhausted, at least the ones filed so far, in. court it now means that tory lanes has to get pardoned and he will have to seek the pardon from the
Starting point is 00:29:24 state governor which is Gavin Newsom I know people keep throwing around Trump while Trump has some influence Trump doesn't have the authority the proper authority to pardon a state prisoner so Trump is out of play here this all goes down to Gavin Newsom it it doesn't seem like a likely situation that Gavin Newsom is going to pardon him. You know, we could speak kind of clear here and blunt. Gavin Newsom is one of those niggas who, the way his policies lay down, he loved gays, women.
Starting point is 00:30:03 He hate niggas. You know what I mean? Basically that, right? Like, he's one of woke niggins. So he's not going to reverse a conviction of somebody accused of shooting a woman. You feel what I'm saying? He's not going to do it. Now, let's look at Torrey Lane's release dates.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Let's see. California Department of Corrections. So essentially, Tori got basically one more chance. Obviously, there's a couple of the ways he can still get out, but, like, those are, like, if we were saying a habeas corpus is a Hail Mary, those are like, lightning got to strike the same place five times, right? Like, essentially, it's just saying it'll happen. Let me see. all right so this is tory he's 33 now he's locked up at california men's colony what type of prison is this it's like i'm wondering if you got that ditty prison you know
Starting point is 00:31:12 reason reason i'm saying i'm trying to see if it's like a high security low security let's see it's a mail only state prison i'm trying to figure out if it's like some oh it's a medium security so it's a medium security so it's a medium with individual cells, fence perimeters, arm coverage, with housing divided into four quadrants. Okay. See some pictures of it. Okay, so it looks like this over here.
Starting point is 00:31:49 All right. This is another view. So these are the four quadrants. Okay. Now, let's see when he got locked up then. When did he? No, no. got admitted then but he was locked up in end of 2022 and let's see if we could figure out when
Starting point is 00:32:09 he's supposed to get out okay so his parole eligibility date is 2029 so September 2029 so if we have a clock and we should set a Tory parole clock the end because we got to be honest he he don't look like he's getting out anyway else so we're it's going to be 2029 September that he's very awaiting parole and he's eligible. I think he's going to, you know, fingers crossed, I think he's going to get out on the first parole, the earliest parole eligibility date. Why?
Starting point is 00:32:46 He's been stabbed in prison and we haven't heard him doing any real bullshit in prison yet. So that along with the fact that, you know, he's participating in all these programs. He's supposedly being a good inmate. Obviously, he kind of acted up when it was time for him to do his deposition for Megan Milagro shit, but who wants to do that bullshit? but Tory should be out in September 29, granted the first chance at parole he actually,
Starting point is 00:33:14 um, he actually is released on. So we'll see. We'll see. All right. Okay. Yo, yo,
Starting point is 00:33:31 yo, I think everybody's seen. Yo, this nigga 50 did a cold job, man. He did a cold motherfucking job on, on, um, did he?
Starting point is 00:33:45 And did y'all see Waka Flocka react to it recently? Waka Flocker reacted to this. And tell me what you take from it, because some people feel like he was going at Diddy. I think he wasn't defending Diddy, but what he was really doing, he was just saying, yo, I'm glad I don't be trying to be around Y'all industry people because what he's just seen,
Starting point is 00:34:10 what Ditty did to Ditty in this documentary that paints him just, one way. It's crazy. Watch it. Man, after watching that Netflix shit that Cinqueza produced, I don't trust no celebrity. Thank you, God. I never went to nobody party while. I never do no feature.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I'm going to studios. Thank you. I'm not even hot no more. Nobody even requesting me. All that shit, bro. I'm Cinqueza. You show me something, man. Hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Hey, no excuses. Hey, man, after watching that Netflix shit. Look, man, I can't talk to nobody. Got glasses on. Talking me every time I see him. I got to see the lies in your face. I got to see the doom in the eyes, the angels in your eyes,
Starting point is 00:35:01 the confidence in your words. I got to know you real what you're saying to me. I can't trust no one of my glasses all day, man. Look me in my eyes when we're talking, man. Real shot. We, we, look, man, I can't. Okay. Now, this is all after the documentary still is coming. The documentary is out. It's number one all over Netflix. 50s like having a time of his life. And did y'all see this part right here? Yo, we had Little Rod on here that did an interview, but Little Rod went on a documentary. And y'all got to see, where's the part of Little Rod at?
Starting point is 00:35:39 It says, producer Little Rod said there were days he would party with Diddy all night and wake up sore in the morning and not know what happened. happened pause yo whoa she me wake up sore he claims some days he woke up next to women some days he woke up next to ditty check this out things that happen to me i just don't even want to speak on you know what I'm saying some days those girls next to me woke up some days he was in the bed I would wake up feeling sore still not understand the exact Yo, as a man, you can't, like, which part of you is sore, gang? Because if you go to the gym, your biceps might be sore, you know what I mean? Like, you know, you do some dips, maybe your thighs are sore, but like, wow.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Which part of you is sore, brother? Exactly. What's, you know what I'm saying, transpired? But this is me starting to understand that I was doing pretty often. I tried to confine in KK. Yo, some people actually believe they're like, your bro, this is not abuse. Whatever you're trying to claim, you and that nigga was in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:37:00 You're having a time of your life. That's her chief of staff. And I thought it would be more, you know, understood if I took it to so long as woman. But she was always like, that's a lot of things Yeah So
Starting point is 00:37:19 You know Lil Rod Who again I guess he finally gets his cash out of this whole situation He's still suing Diddy by the way For unpaid wages And for sexual assault and abuse Little Rod is the one
Starting point is 00:37:34 Who got this all started You know I said last night I know I was lit last night But I say yo I do think Diddy People have lightened up I think this documentary kind of puts puts him back in like, oh, this guy's a really bad guy, like realm.
Starting point is 00:37:52 But I do think when Diddy gets out, Diddy's going to get the gun of treatment. And I hope you guys don't get mad at me saying that, but it's exactly what's going to be. I'll put any money on it. Diddy's going to get the gunner treatment. If Diddy acts like Gunner, if Diddy come out and he keep doing all this gyrating,
Starting point is 00:38:11 the P, the D, the I, the D, the Y, the D, I, the Y, the D, I, they're going to just say, and I'm telling Diddy this right now, he's somewhere in the cell watching this shit on Apple watch. You are going, like, right now is the equivalent to like snitching. Nigger, nobody cares about snitching. And really, nobody cares that you were pimping hose. You got clear that the main charges that people carried that you actually were convicted, you were acquitted up, which is sex trafficking, which nobody's going to defend a sex trafficker.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And Rico, which involved all of the heinous things that also includes sex trafficking. You got clear to those. now it's just you pimping holes. Yes, they've seen videos. Are you beating chakes? Whatever, whatever. There's mad stories. If he come out on some gun of shit,
Starting point is 00:38:58 you're going to watch the rappers who have stayed quiet are going to all be around him, eventually over time. That's if he shuts the fuck up and don't come back out. Like that ditty persona, and I wonder how he's processing this. Because even as we're watching, we're watching the, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:15 I don't know if you guys watch a documentary by them, the hubris. Like, this is what, humorous is what, you know, the judge quoted when he was given the sentencing down. He said, brother, like, you have a release party in Miami already? And I haven't made my ruling? The judge was upset by that when the prosecutor brought up that there was pre-planned Diddy parties that he was ready to walk out of jail if he was given time served and have that week. Diddy about to get arrested and filming the entire thing And he's popping that shit while he's like
Starting point is 00:39:54 There's no humble moment He has to process that the persona of Diddy is dead The persona of Diddy is dead and if I would give him advice I would say the public image and the public The guy who lives in the he's on the top of the table during the party, he's the life of the party, that's over as well. Ditty's going to come home, he's going to fight civil cases until he's probably out of here. The main takeaway is he's still going to be up tens, if not over $100 million, because trust
Starting point is 00:40:37 me, they ain't drain him that much pause. Like, he's still got some bread now. He's still got some bread. But the idea of gallivanting and gyrating and. You know, he has to kill that portion of him if he cares about his family and he cares about his own well-being. Now, that's going to be a hard monster to kill. Remember, they're saying after Biggie's death, he was so self-obsessed and craved the spotlight so much. He said, man, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Why are you putting a dead guy on the magazine? I got an album coming out. Put me on the magazine. Those type of things really shows his character to say, I always want to be the guy. It goes back to the, to the age old thing where you hear Shugnight say, if you don't want your executive producer,
Starting point is 00:41:30 all up in the video, that was Diddy's M.O. I think Diddy's gonna be fine. If he lays back, comes back out, just shows with his family, doesn't seek to try to do the most, which is already made your money already. Don't do, don't come out and just do a Vlad TV interview.
Starting point is 00:41:52 No disrespect, Vlad. Don't run to the breakfast club. Don't shoot a documentary. Just chill. Just chill. And watch the natural order of things. You're going to see these rappers start being around you and don't mind getting photoed with you. And that's how I see Diddy's comeback being like Gunna.
Starting point is 00:42:16 you know gunna gonna kick in it with kodak bringing our money back yo we already knew offset and like ddg fuck with him but like gunna is now showing us that bro all of this shit where niggas is like they don't fuck with rats or whatever
Starting point is 00:42:30 that is like an antiquated old conversation that people don't really honor anymore so all of this like disgust that people are saying they have for ditty and contempt like how could he do this if he gets out of Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Give it six months. You're going to start seeing rappers hang with him again. They just won't talk about the elephant in the room. And what's the elephant in the room? Not the convictions, because I think he beat the ones that would really make him look weird. They're not going to talk about the details of the case that everybody seems to be bringing up now. Yo, what's up with that video you beat? You know why?
Starting point is 00:43:11 98% of rappers beat that bitch, too. Sorry to tell you. 98% of rappers Let me not say 90% When I've talked to rappers Behind the scenes when it comes to Diddy They always thought like Yo, he's a super freak
Starting point is 00:43:27 You know some other shit So they don't agree with that But they've always When I've talked to rappers When it comes to sex trafficking Rappers always kind of gave the The idea off to me that
Starting point is 00:43:40 Yo We'd be doing the same shit Like yo We be flying bitches out we be doing this and third we just be paying for we be yeah like this is kind of like status quo so if ddi guilty like yo is is this shit clip so i don't think they're gonna be judging him for that stuff they'll they'll judge him for some of the cessation details like niggi you was rubbing nut on your chest bro like come on bro come on anyway i think ditty's
Starting point is 00:44:10 gonna be fine right ditty is going to be fine if he comes out and does the gunner route and I think that's you know for anybody else who's coming out in controversy I hope they take that into consideration there's a gunner route in all of this we don't need you to do interviews trying to cop please and explain it on some six nine shit over explain it nah yo I ain't snitch I listen I would have snitch if they were my friends are they my friends no we don't want to hear that just be quiet these rappers are going to run right back to being in your good graces. Okay?
Starting point is 00:44:50 Now, what also came out recently is Justin Combs and Misa Hilton, which I believe is his mom, they have came out and spoke out saying that this documentary is causing harassment to the family, okay? Oh my God. Oh, you guys.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Misa says she and Justin are being harassed, following comments implied by Gene Deal and the documentary. Mesa says this. Anyone who knows me knows I'm a private person, and it pains me that I even have to post this. The harassment of my son and I have been dealing with is because of things implied by Gene Deal and stated in a recent Netflix documentary, it's been heartbreaking. The truth is, the public has been misled about me and my child. We've been dragging to something we never asked for,
Starting point is 00:45:54 or a cruel game built on rumors and agendas, please take a moment before believe in everything you hear. The most painful part of this is that it's happening because of men I once trusted to protect me, not harm me. And the saddest thing is that none of this affects the people spreading it. It only hurts me and my son. Like Jean said, we've been treated as casualties of war. With little critical thinking, it would be easy to realize
Starting point is 00:46:18 that the things that could be said could not be possibly be true because of the results that would come from these disparaging statements if they were in fact true. This would be a post and delete. Protect women and their children. This is only about Misa and Justin only. Why didn't this go viral? This is a poorly time and I think a horrible post. I'm going to tell you why. Ma'am, I know you're saying that you and your son are just being lumped into this, but if we read all the allegations, they're saying that, Justin is Diddy Part 2.
Starting point is 00:46:55 So you can't use this like, oh, my son without acknowledging that they're saying that your son seems to be mirroring your baby father, which is Diddy. I get it. You are the mother. And yes, you're obviously a casualty of war. But you can't shield, again, Justin, you can't be like me and my son. Justin's a grown-ass man. He's a thing you're pushing thirt.
Starting point is 00:47:22 30 if he's not 30 already. So you could speak for yourself about you not choosing all of this, but Justin is his own man and, you know, whether allegations, and most of them I really don't believe, but they allege stuff of Justin that is equal or seems to match what the fuck they were claiming that he was doing. So I get what she's saying. but you can't protect you and your son. Says the commentary continues,
Starting point is 00:47:57 there's an old audio clip. It said, uh, let's see, trying to figure out, what's the clip that involved Justin? Oh, oh,
Starting point is 00:48:13 never mind, she's speaking about the paternity. Oh, so Gene Deal. Let me look it up. Okay, I think I'm not trying to find on YouTube. Here it is.
Starting point is 00:48:55 In law enforcement, period, that grew up, you know, in an urban community and new street people and can relate to... Now, so I want to backtrack a little bit on what I just said. If she's defending her and her son basically saying, yo, whatever Diddy got going on, don't drag my son into it in a sense of you're doubting that his father is Diddy or you're down the paternity status of him because now you're affecting someone's mental state
Starting point is 00:49:29 where they might think that their father, who they thought was their father, wasn't their father all along. And Gene Dio has been one of the people pushing this. The dudes that was behind bars. So when they came out behind boss, I did everything in my... And I'll explain the rumor.
Starting point is 00:49:45 There's a rumor that 50's bodyguard or one of his bodyguards, somebody named Wolf or something. They're saying he looks light-skinned and he looks kind of like, Justin. They're saying he was rumored to be the father of Justin Combs and not Diddy. Now, the family's never said that they've never acknowledged that. Justin clearly loves Diddy, calls Diddy's dad, moves that way. And, you know, it's kind of like a conspiracy theory,
Starting point is 00:50:17 one that's being pushed by another person was a bodyguard, which is G&D. When it turned over from the Department of Corrections from the Division of Parole. MTV VH1 Nick Bluefield Hold on war with this dude I don't know he I don't want to tell ya I remember when the nigga did the blood tested he had to pay me so much kind of money and he was mad and the motherfucker fuck that nigga I'm not gonna tell you all that but if you ask me personally I'm gonna tell you I don't know what you're talking about
Starting point is 00:50:48 I wouldn't there when they uh was fucking how would I know because I'm going to walk with this nigga doesn't hurt Lisa because I used to work for Lisa. Okay, so this is where he's addressing her, I guess. Because Lisa knew that Puff was not going to run up her and do shit to her when she was with me. So when I left Puff, I started working for Mesa. When I started working for Mesa, she had me there because she knew how afraid Puff was and I didn't give a fuck about nobody because that's the type of person that was back then.
Starting point is 00:51:30 No, you're not going to do nobody. Yo, I'm a die for Lisa right now. Ain't nobody going to touch her. That's how I was when I was with her. Lisa would be like, yo, Gene, I'm downtown. I'm going to the cheetahs. Me and Mary, meet me down there, shoot down there. Q Rock City.
Starting point is 00:51:59 What's up with you boy? So now, I'm going to war with this thing. I know me not saying nothing hurt Lisa. But you just a casualty in war right now. I know what I, well, what was saying hurt and justice because I did not clarify it to nobody because I didn't say it. Reggie Wright and somebody else said it. It said I told them which they was lying. When you go to war, a enemy of your enemy becomes your friend.
Starting point is 00:52:38 and the friend of your enemy becomes your enemy. I'm looking at it that way. Anything that hurt this, I'm going to use if somebody else said it. Now, when I other shit that I said about his mother, who's the truth? I didn't lie about none of that. I didn't lie about justice.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I just did not. What? Because I got a voice. I could have said, man, that's some bullshit, man. I remember when Puff had the fucking blood test, and he was bad because he had to pay me a lot more, a little bit more money than he was paying her at first, because he was starving her at first.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Now he got to really pay her. I could have said that, but I didn't. Because I'm at war with this, nigga. I will still continue to be at war with this nigga. The greatest ever. What up? I'm letting y'all know that it's some, casualties of war.
Starting point is 00:53:56 That was one of them. There are some other things. Will I speak on? Now, I will speak on. And while I'm speaking on this shit right now is because I'm letting you know this nigga go go to war. All y'all niggas ain't ready for it.
Starting point is 00:54:15 All y'all niggas who didn't come to his defense? All y'all niggas who was acting to search. Okay. I agree. I agree. Well, if I'm Diddy, you know, maybe Diddy has made peace,
Starting point is 00:54:35 and I think that's very important that he needs to make peace with, even if the fact that he's thinking, damn, I'm only locked up because these motherfuckers who I did well. And that's a lot of what I've heard when people get in these situations they feel. When you go down, you kind of look at it and you're like, damn, I gave this person that. I bought his mama a house. I bailed him out from jail.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I paid for this for his kid's tuition. His uncle died. I paid for the funeral. I gave him this amount of money a year. And Did he allegedly or supposedly would naturally go through that feeling of, man, I'm only sitting here because niggas betrayed me. And he has to get past that. to be like, well, what did he contribute to be there, right?
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yo, okay. Despite maybe people that you were nice to, you were paying their rent, you were giving their, they relied on you for their livelihood, what the hell did you do to get yourself in that position? And if he gets there, maybe he gets out and says,
Starting point is 00:55:55 you know what? Fuck that shit. I'm glad and fortunate, to be free. I still got my family. I still got portions of my wealth. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I've been humbled. Or he might get out on some young boy shit. I mean, I mean, young boy shit is like, we ain't see jail deter a young boy one time. What I mean is you get out here like, oh, y'all motherfuckers, who done snitched on me, who don't told on me, who I put money in your pockets, food in your stomach paws.
Starting point is 00:56:30 listen I'm gonna fuck y'all up I'm gonna spend every fucking dime I'm gonna put a hit out on all you motherfuckers and I mean that like you know facetiously not literally we're gonna see how Didi gets out like obviously I don't believe 50
Starting point is 00:56:45 with the funeral the flower shit that he's like oh Did he send me I don't believe that I don't believe that shit because I think Diddy knows right now even if he was going to have to if he was going to exact revenge on Diddy
Starting point is 00:56:59 on 50 I mean He locked up in prison right now Do it on a sneak Do it on the humble So I think it remains to be seen How Diddy's going to handle all this Right
Starting point is 00:57:13 I think remains to be seen Anyway That is the latest Let me see if there's anything more else With the Diddy stuff Diddy betrays his own lawyer This is your holiday reminder That shoes are a gift literally
Starting point is 00:57:44 And we're not just doing that because we're DSW. This year, unwrap confidence. Oh, wrap something. Oh, shit. All right, I can't play all of this shit, but I do, I do got a Diddy Doc right here. I got the Diddy Doc. Let me play.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Y'all going to play a little bit. So I do want to play the part where they're talking about Diddy betrayed his own lawyers. Basically, there was a time. And, you know, I actually, I know this was meant to make Diddy looks crazy. I understood what Diddy was saying. And I actually believe that Diddy getting on his legal team as he was is the part, is the reason why he didn't get convicted of recall and sex trafficking. Did he pushed this team and he kept adding more people?
Starting point is 00:58:34 Bro, they did an amazing job making sure this thing can get 20 years or life. Now, if you know Diddy in a music studio or you know Diddy in any business capacity, Diddy is the person who's going super hard And you gotta be a pussy To think that Did he's shouting at his lawyers Or you know Talking shit to his lawyers Because he's trying to like you know
Starting point is 00:58:56 Some people just go through the process You have hired lawyers before chat And lawyers are like bullshit Like you know what I mean It could even be Traffic shit You know what I mean And you're like all right well
Starting point is 00:59:07 That's the You know You tell you lawyer I want it to be this outcome And then the lawyer get in there And you're just sitting there going through the motions, and then the outcome is not even what you wanted, but the lawyer basically just tells you, like, yo, the judge went other way. And like, you're like, wait,
Starting point is 00:59:23 that's all you could do. So I don't mind Diddy, who probably paid, if you ask me, I think the legal bill ran up at least $10 million. I don't mind him getting on his lawyer's ass. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah, nigga, I ain't trying to do 20 years. Get to it. Some of y'all figure this out. Y'all niggas figured this shit out. So let me see if I can. showed a part. Again, I have the documentary here, but I'm not going to play, obviously, the whole thing. I think Netflix would be highly
Starting point is 00:59:52 upset. These are some parts where he's talking about I read the 55 page lawsuit. Here we go. This is four, I think. Give me one a second. I'm just trying to find the right point.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Oh, no. Yeah, that's when he be there. Okay, it's episode three. Low Rod comes in a lot in episode four even a second i'm just trying to find this episode three has cassie a lot oh i can show y'all i can show you i can show you that this i guess yeah okay this is him in the car take this on the way we're going uptown to when i first got with sean i liked him as a person because i didn't know him humorous occasion this is when he was just walking around new york city to the actual parts.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Okay, this is him kind of also like prepping. This is, by the way, this is that infamous pouch, which is so crazy. Bro, if you're being investigated for all this stuff, people saying you drug them, well, how the hell are you going to have a fucking pouch with the drugs? And then tell somebody to film you. Like, this is, like, Diddy definitely thought he was bigger than the program. You're accused of drugging people, Diddy. People are describing how they see you carry around the drugs.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Fanny Patch, this and third. You hire somebody to film you and you tell them, yo, get the, like, you're going to leave the purse with the drugs literally in plain sight. That's why they took his sons in custody. He accused his homes in Los Angeles and Miami today as part of a human trafficking investigation. I don't know what the fuck is what level of propion disease is going on. He accused Dawn. He said, yo, yo, he said, man, I was always nice to this girl. He's like, yo, there's some type of brokenness going on right now.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Because these motherfuckers is coming at me. So he accused them of being broke. This is him talking to Justin Combs, his son. And he said, God told me to do nothing. So you, and he's talking to his son, say you need to figure out what you need to do to make the shit better. Because God told me, I can't do nothing right now. And you could tell Justin felt the pressure like there's pressure on Justin
Starting point is 01:03:09 You can see Justin's face right here the most diabolical Yeah this is him and Justin right here see Oh it's just like they crashing out they fell me Motherfuck from in jail I never seen before The girl that's in my group that was on my last album you're on my last album now all of a sudden now all of a sudden I'm this person, I'm this monster. Wow, this is him talking. There's a white guy filming about her.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Fuck that, man. I think Christian Combs, you just seen him, too. Glow's telling him. And you could tell. Diddy was trying to, he was trying to be the Diddy where, oh, I'm not a victim, like, I'm Diddy. You could see him trying to psych himself up. But we're not playing the whole thing, chat. because I know Netflix will
Starting point is 01:04:27 drill, edit most of this shit out. You can probably put like, let me just give drill instructions. If you're using, this is the doc, you could use maybe like 10, 15 seconds,
Starting point is 01:04:40 okay? Do not put up, like, you know what I mean? I'm being a little bit more liberal because I am on a live stream. But if you put the shit up on YouTube, trust me,
Starting point is 01:04:49 Netflix is getting this shit clip. Yo, chat, the most diabolical part of all this is this right here, chat. After every one of them episodes, every one of the episodes chat after everyone in episodes it fades to the credits
Starting point is 01:05:05 it fades to the credits and when it fades to the credits you're going to see watch this directed by Alexandra Stapleton executive produced by Curtis 50 St. Jackson I'm telling you man if I'm 50
Starting point is 01:05:26 you know 50 better bump up in security because if I'm ditty I'm spending every dollar this thing got to go facts you got to go bro this nigga is like Yo, let me say this. Let's be honest. If y'all believe that Diddy got Tupac and Biggie Kilt, ain't no way 50 just chilling and just like laughing like this on the gram.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Ain't no way. Ain't no way, my nigga. Ain't no way. Again, I'm going to conspiracy theory land because, you know, I don't believe some of those claims. But what I'm saying is that if y'all think 50 as devious as y'all claim is, And he's never been charged for no murder or none. It's no way he got Pock and Big Killed.
Starting point is 01:06:10 And 50 out here violating him down to his last days on earth. Come on, bro. Come on, man. Come on, bro. You get what I'm saying? So I ain't going to lie to you the way I'm 50 playing with Diddy. I got to believe that he never did none of the shit. Y'all claim he did.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Yeah, like he acted fake tough with niggies like Kid Cuddy because Kit Cuddy ain't on shit. But when y'all saying that he got pot killed and he got this nigga killed, well, how is 50s just chilling? How? How? The nigger made a documentary and sent you to jail. Well, let me bring that back. He made a documentary.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Rewittal forecasts of you potentially come out of jail with slightly a clean face, which maybe some could argue is impossible already. but he hyped up everything before you got locked up oh shit fuck this is the fucking thing shots of Netflix by the way I thought it was nasty when they bring in the the biggie and Pock stuff like they basically was trying to say yeah
Starting point is 01:07:26 he could have did both I'm like come on bro but this is the footage of him the last couple of days right is this a stylist Get this Oh shit Getting this footage is like This is like
Starting point is 01:07:52 This is six days before he has to Emphasize to you One thing This is the glamorous like you This is This is fine This is six days before his arrest Take that all
Starting point is 01:08:39 That's more in the room One thing And this is the glamorous Like you know This tells you so much You need to know about Diddy Like And this is why this was important footage
Starting point is 01:08:52 I think this, the best footage about this is the footage leading up to his arrest. And the reason why it's great is that even though the world is collapsing around him, Didi is still having to keep the image of, you know, it's all good. Yo, I'm still looking good. I'm still this. I'm still that. As he's walking at his hotel room, you have stylists or personal assistants, whoever the fuck you want to call these people.
Starting point is 01:09:17 They're trying to make sure he looks good. They're trying to make sure the image is still on point. And you get to realize Diddy is an old school celebrity, man. The image comes first. You got a mini-Diddy right here. Must come down on the road goes down. Must come up. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I remember 99 we were working in the studio on a song called Muscle Game. I'm headed to 113 for Lennox King. I got to catch my man. Okay. I'll see you up. Yeah, we roll. I'm trying to see if I can find the lawyer thing. Does anyone know, in what episode does he cuss out his lawyers?
Starting point is 01:10:38 Is it three? It might be three. On the clip, and when he refused. Okay, okay, I want to keep playing it. Here we go. By the way, this is the young, this is supposedly his 19 or 20-year-old girlfriend at the time. That, you know, he's trying to, by the way, he's also. I also think, you know, this is where the documentary misses the mark for me. And I don't want nobody to be like, yo, I feel like you're defending Diddy.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Bro, when I watch a documentary, I like for you to come away with it with a mixed type of feeling, where you could be like, was it worth it? This documentary doesn't do it for me. This documentary just says Diddy is a piece of shit. Which, yes, you could even still believe he's a piece of shit, but it doesn't show the other things about him. it doesn't show that this guy was living life on an axis that's just different and weird or maybe something that you or I couldn't won't ever experience and at points he was too far gone
Starting point is 01:11:41 but at points he was trying to like you know you know do things that was reasonably within the right moral compass right anyway uh this is i think this is 19 year old girlfriend who he's trying to like super up like nothing's wrong because you can imagine she's probably on TikTok reading everything bad about him and um he's look at him kind of like putting on that face like nah everything's good watch look 200 million here we go hey what's up baby i'm about to deposit 200 million right now and i feel good yo this is a couple days for his arrest his lawyers are telling him everything in the world. But, yo, he's talking to his, you know, by the way,
Starting point is 01:12:37 he ain't talking to Carisha. Well, Carisha was out by then. He's talking to this girl, and he got to make it seem good. I'm about to deposit $200 million. And she's just geeked. They're holding the bank over the money. You know it? He's still talking that big shit.
Starting point is 01:12:57 This was six days for the arrest. What's up, baby? Talk to Daddy. He said, talk to Daddy. She, you hear her? Oh, Puff Daddy's back right now. You want to scream in the crowd, don't you? You want to scream in the crowd.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I know you do. I've seen Pope with a lot of women. Yeah, all that was masking, you know? So that was the Cassie stuff. I just want to go to the lawyer stuff. Again, you guys should watch all this if you care. Shine didn't get a part, even though we did not participate in a documentary. One thing about the documentary, and again, I know something like I'm overly critical.
Starting point is 01:13:57 And this is why I keep bringing up my man, Sean G. Is because the documentary just hit the points that mainstream-wise we've thought. It just made him seem guilty. For example, yo, did you know, they're like, oh, he made Biggie pay for his own funeral. Yo, he might have been behind Biggie Dying in L.A. He might be behind Pock Dine. And it hits on so many of the mainstream things that what it missed was the intricacies that we found out in a trial. And this is where I've seen Sean G. was pointed out.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Like, he was accurate to a lot of this stuff, right? Like, none of the intricacies of how did he really moved and operated. that came out in trial was really in the documentary. It's like an overview, but just an overview of a really bad man. But it wasn't the, when it says reckoning,
Starting point is 01:15:03 it wasn't like these real, we found out so much shit in the documentaries, in trial. None of that was used. And the reason I bring up Sean G on this is because he has a theory, and I actually believe that theory. I think 50 really glanced over
Starting point is 01:15:21 the intricate details that came out in trial because those reflect on his baby mama. I'm going to keep it to me. Yo, Curtis. Hey, Curtis. Good morning. I just wanted to know if this part was in the documentary. I still ain't watched it yet,
Starting point is 01:15:42 but I think I'm going to watch it today or tomorrow. This is my notes. I was an in-courtroom observer on the 24th floor and the overflow at the Puffy Tribe. I took notes. I was there every day. Jane Doe on the stand, your girl that Puff took from you. She said that from February to May 2021, her and Puff liked to have porn playing,
Starting point is 01:16:17 and she would dress in provocative lingerie. She would dress in provocative lingerie. lingerie, right? And that dress and provocative lingerie. And her and Puff would have sex for 12 to 24 hours. And she would rub baby oil on him. Jane Doe would rub baby oil all over Puff.
Starting point is 01:16:45 And Puff would rub baby oil all over Jane Doe, all over his body, all over his body. And people get the red light bulbs. They would have red light bulbs in the room. Curtis, they would take out the white light bulbs and screw in red light bulbs. I'm going to be honest. And if we really think about it, like obviously you had channels like me, you had Sean G and other people that kind of covered the trial intricately.
Starting point is 01:17:12 I thought the documentary would also really crystallize, like find some of the hotel workers that may have walked into these rooms. Because remember, they were paying up to $50,000,000 damages. That's where the documentary missed the mark for me. And I get it. This wasn't just a documentary about the freak calls or the freaknicks that he was kind of having leading up to this federal charge. It was more about his entire life. And I get it.
Starting point is 01:17:38 It's called reckoning. So it's not only about the trial. It's about like painting this guy as this, you know, guy who's drunk off power. But I was hoping to see a lot of what was brought out. in court brought to life. Find the hotel workers who would find a state of the room where all of the couches
Starting point is 01:18:03 or sheets are baby oil stained and they would find routinely ditty for damages in one hotel find him like up to 50,000 in damages for the freakoffs. You know? But I don't know. Maybe that was a part that hit too close to home and respectfully to 50.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Like nah man like you know he did put obviously Cassie in there, but Jane Doe is not in there. Cassie's in there, Capricorn Clark. Dawn is mentioned in there, but she's not featured in there. Kalina is in there. His baby mom is not in there. And she would rub baby oil on puff.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Puff would rub baby oil on her. I loved, I loved the sexual experiences felt exhilaration. I love I loved Puffy Pee with the circle that was my symbol for Puff very much. So she was in love with Puff, but you was in love with her. She was in love with Puff. This was at the trial. This is Jane Doe's testimony. Maureen called me this was the direct examination.
Starting point is 01:19:22 When I got home, they had a threesome with D. John from Cowboys and Angels. That was a... Yeah, all of that's missing. Like, the intricate part of how did he got to... It shows how he got to power and how he may have committed other crimes, which that's where the documentary loses me. You know, I could show you, like, how could you guys...
Starting point is 01:19:53 How could you guys, like, give Little Rod the runway to talk. about like unfounded things like oh yeah I think Diddy and Justin shot someone right but not really get into what came out on court because what this guy is saying is like we don't know if it's true hold on here we go here's some of it Grame, no, bro, I'm not letting you get out of this. Like, you won't have to answer this, you know what I'm saying? You know my brother? Are you...
Starting point is 01:20:31 Work at his house? There's a little ride over here. We ain't Colt Entertainment. And I'll start patching them up in the... Here we go. ...I don't know his full name. I see him, Justin, and Puff, going to bathroom together. Moments later out here.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Boom! Boom! Two shots. I'm like, yo. So how do you put this in a documentary, which is like no one has ever, there's not even a police report about this. And you're going to hear a little rod say it. He says, oh, the guy who got shot I'd never seen again. So this is like, we don't even know if it's true. Yet all the things that came out in court is ignored.
Starting point is 01:21:13 I'm going through sounds. I'm like, this can't die. You know, it's like, okay, maybe I hit one of those guns on a keypad. I see Justin and Puff walk out. I opened the door, he was in there just bleeding. He was bleeding out. You know, growing up in the hood, you know, people get shot all the time. So immediately, I'm like, yo, I need towels, towels, bring me tiles, tiles,
Starting point is 01:21:45 and I just start patching them up in the prime pressure. Ammolands come, they pulled three blocks down. I'm trying to wade them, like, I go running down, like what I was doing. He's like, you go running down, like what I was doing. He's like, you can be... did not have pretty fine just there on the scene they were about some type of shooting in the studio what we all creating was two-pock here we go enough disappeared video was after i had helped him get to the ambulance no one knows who he is the way he's at
Starting point is 01:22:25 he just disappeared that's to me why include that but not include some other shit like because there's no proof of this freak off a freak off was three people huh jango and a male escort that was it they did a freak off with don when i got home after the freak off i felt exhilarated it was fun taboo sexy and crazy that night opened the pandora's box a door that was open that i couldn't shut shaw a j podcast was sold don't never stop Patterson, New Jersey. Now, he was going. Now, he been going crazy.
Starting point is 01:23:08 He loves Diddy. I ain't a lot of you. He's been going crazy on 50, because he thinks 50, you know, is doing this pretty much a smear campaign. Here we go. We played this already, I believe. Hey, yo, Curtis, I still ain't seen the documentary yet, the one you put out on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:23:31 But they told me that Capricorn clock is, in there. The Capricorn clock tell you that at the trial, on the stand, under oath, testimony came out that she was entrusted with a bunch of diamond jewelry, very expensive jewelry that belonged to Puffy that went missing, and she was the last one with it. Did that come out on the stand? I mean, did that come out in the documentary? Let me tell you what happened. Capricorn Clark was in charge of the jewelry, big time jewelry, $100,000, diamonds, all of that. It got missing. Puffy got with her, made her go take lie detector tests to see if she was telling the truth about whether how the jury got missing.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Long story short, Capricon Clark gets fired. When she gets fired, she goes to work for Madonna. Works for Madonna for a little while. Okay, he's kind of going through the trial stuff. I've been told that the part I'm looking for is what Jill said? Jules tell me where to find it. It's in episode one at the start episode. Is this one at the start?
Starting point is 01:25:04 Here we go. Oh, here we go. we need the core scene to be. Oh, okay, okay. So this is how it starts. I don't want to have a life to be able to live. You know, it's really going to be hard for me to take more hits than I take it. God forbid, get in front of a jury and have a chance.
Starting point is 01:25:22 And so I'm having this emergency call because something has to give. We need that the core scene to be. Whoa, is that people on the other side, like kind of watching them? Like, cops are here? It's really going to be hard for me to take it. take more hits than I take it, God forbid, get in front of a jury and have a chance. And so I'm having this emergency. Who are these people?
Starting point is 01:25:49 Call because something that's a good. So he's on the phone with Mark Ignifalo. I don't think it's working. I'd have listened. I've been a superb client, as you said. I jumped on the plane. I'm coming in New York, but I'm just like, I'm just running around waiting. I don't remember seeing this part.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Yo, Diddy looks frazzled. Just look at his face, Chad. Wow. Look at his face. You can tell you, he's like, it's a little bit fucked up. I don't think it's working. Wow. I've listened.
Starting point is 01:26:48 I've been a superb client, as you said. I jumped on a plane. I'm coming to New York, but I'm just like, I'm just running around waiting for a shooter drop. Then you have to have a spokesman. to have some sort of calms to constantly be pushing that, Ma'am, because you may just be the person. Now, this is where I think, and I don't care what nobody says, Diddy was right. And I told you, 6'9, when he said he saw Diddy in lockup at MDC, he said to Diddy as well. Diddy was right early on by saying, we have to control this narrative.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Every day there's erroneous lawsuits, I don't even know these people, but it's, it's, it's, It's like a snowball effect. I look like a creep, an R word. I look like the worst. And yes, I'm here waiting for what's going to happen. And I'm being a good, you know, I'm being a good client for you guys. And I'm being, you know, on my best behavior for this pending indictment. But, bro, it's kind of dragging.
Starting point is 01:28:07 And I'm looking worse and worse. You just does, you just may watch CNN. You know what I'm saying? And there's like, there's 9 billion people in the world. And 7 billion of them is on Instagram and TikTok. And so you had, y'all, you had the wrong place looking to see what the people would the... Wow. You know, chat.
Starting point is 01:28:25 You notice very subtle things. Like, for example, watch his finger, like, just kind of tapping. You could tell, like, bro, this is a high-stress moment for that. to constantly be pushing that. Just watch his head. You may just be the person that just does, you just may watch CNN. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:28:43 And there's like, there's 9 billion people in the world. And 7 billion of them is on Instagram and TikTok. And so you have, y'all, you had the wrong place looking to see what the people with the possible jurors are thinking,
Starting point is 01:28:57 we have to find somebody that will work with us, whether they from this country or from another country. It can be somebody that, that has dealt in the, Dirtiest of dirtyest dirty business of media. Oh, wow. So it kind of shows Ditty was like, yo, we got to get, we got to get a handle on this media stuff.
Starting point is 01:29:16 In propaganda. I've seen the media portraying me like, I'm a gangster. I'm a... Just see images, you know, quickly. Okay, all right. We'll leave it there. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Now, there's a lot. there's a lot of where do you want us to go chat you know did i see what was went down with the streamer awards uh there's a bunch of drama there streamer awards went down today i know some of you guys might be like yo act we don't care i know we have a lot of things to try to cover to tonight all right so stream awards went out tonight and um kaisanat was there and there's an interesting moment where um kaisanat gets josephs and that gets josephs and that gets josephs and that gets jose joked on by a non-black person who, I don't know if they're the host or what,
Starting point is 01:30:17 but they essentially referred to Kai Sinat as if he was ditty. And it was like a poor joke, and I think a really horrible time joke. Oh, shit, look. Like he won a bunch of awards. And let me see if I can find it. And people were upset about this. Watch this, Chad.
Starting point is 01:30:42 So congratulations. to you. Oh, and also, congrats on your new documentary with a 50 cent. That was you, right? So, I'm not too sure who this person is, but they're making a weak joke, and they're like, congratulations to you on your new documentary of 50 cent,
Starting point is 01:31:02 basically almost saying like, oh, yeah, Kai, you look like Diddy, right? But, I mean, Kai is the most popular streamer other than speed in the world. A lot of people felt that poor, timing. Why would you do it? He's here to show respect to the
Starting point is 01:31:19 award show. Why? Right? And look like karma came instantly for her. If you all going to be on the mic, turn this might not turn this shit on. Turn this shit on. If you all going to be on the mic making jokes, at least let it be funny. If you all
Starting point is 01:31:47 come on the mic making jokes, at least let it be funny. I thought it was... Have a good night. So, congratulations. So, it looks like, yes, Some people weren't that fond about them joking about Kais and that being Diddy in 50s' new documentary. And, I mean, generally, I think I'm cool with jokes. You know, we're not going to just act like Kai's like, you know, you can't make jokes on him.
Starting point is 01:32:15 I think the biggest problem here, it just wasn't funny. It wasn't funny, right? And I won't say it wasn't funny because of the Diddy aspect of it. It just felt awkward and it felt ignorant. And again, that might be the thin line between, yo, you just don't know how to joke, right? Congratulations to you. Oh, and also, congrats on your new documentary with a 50 cent. That was, that was you, right?
Starting point is 01:32:43 Funny part, you could tell Kai could see it coming. Like, he gives like this look and he's like, cringe. He gives the, all right, here comes the cringe. So congratulations to you. Oh, and also, congrats on your new. documentary with a 50 cent that was that was you right anyway uh let me see think Kai wins some awards let me just see what awards he won he probably won all them words right let's see give a second is and the winner is I show speed okay those
Starting point is 01:33:39 I shall speed dreams to not only act but direct and write my own short film and movies. And I'm 100% going to indulge myself in that by enjoying the place that started all this, which is streaming. And one thing I want to say is no matter what, keep God and everything that you do. Do not ever forget about God at all. And I would love to end this with a quote
Starting point is 01:34:08 that my good friend always says. and that's everybody tell you everybody preach to everybody be yourself be yourself be yourself but as soon as people get on the internet they tell you how to be thank you okay did a thing get any wars or my trip in oh damn now there's like another moment that everybody's talking about and yeah we're not we're not staying too long on that yeah everyone knows he actually that was that was uh India Love I don't know these stream rewards Is
Starting point is 01:34:53 I guess this is a Grammy for streamers I don't know Why does she's the most Ranned through streamer What is this Apparently she tried to pull a Kanye moment Apparently Breakout streamer
Starting point is 01:35:17 Went to Phase Adapt And she wanted to do A Kanye moment And shout out Rakhai And DDG And this is what happened Real quick y'all, I know a breakout streamer of the weird went to breakout streamer of the year went to adapt and
Starting point is 01:35:37 Congratulations and we respect you for what you did but Rakai should have won breakout streamer at the year and DDG I don't care what y'all say Shout out Rakai shut out All right so they booed her ass off stage Shout out duty for hosting the event Fuck India love for ruining the event and Yeah, that's pretty much it you know You know what's crazy? Hmm.
Starting point is 01:36:06 She was asking to fucking collab with the face. Yeah, I know. That's why she did that. I literally got a... Yeah, Chad. She was literally asking me to collab two days ago, and I said no, because she wanted to do a makeover on me.
Starting point is 01:36:16 I was like, what? So I was like, no. Um, but... All right, so everybody's tight at India love. Did Aiden even respond to it or no? He didn't even go? No, right? Chad, I have no idea what the criteria is for none of this shit.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Who is this person? A Pokeyman? Sometimes I feel like I know the streamers. Then I realized I don't know shit Wait flight one using the chat The streamer award goes to Flight Wait, how we received this award at home
Starting point is 01:37:24 Y'i Chia We want us of your work because of y'all bro We got the speech coming in right here Stay inspiration Isn't this um Is that a good name? Phantom after she tried to do a Kanye shit.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Okay, I get it. They call this thing a flight boy max. Alerious. Okay, all right, anyway. Anyway, let's get some other shit. Oh, yo, chat. Did you all see this, like, rumor? Somebody actually hit me on a DM about this,
Starting point is 01:38:49 and I forgot to bring it up. So remember the infamous, like, JZ fight, right? So, well, not fight necessarily, but. Jay Z. The hell? Okay, remember the infamous Jayze Salon Hotel moment, right? Where they're in the elevator, Jayze comes on with his wife, Beyonce,
Starting point is 01:39:15 and Salonge comes there, and there's the bodyguard, and all of a sudden, you know, they start getting active up in that bitch. Okay? Basically, she's getting in his face. She starts swinging on him. They're trying to control her. Beyonce's like on the opposite side She's like yo listen
Starting point is 01:39:32 I ain't gonna fuck up my dress and my makeup And clearly people say well number one If the sister of the wife is Fucking up the husband and the wife Doesn't step in to stop her sister Maybe she agrees with the sister which a lot of people felt like that was about You know Becky with a long hair
Starting point is 01:39:50 Right? So this happened The security guard is you know The kicks has happened And by the I always said Them Taekwondo classes paid off of Jay because when she was like trying to punch that nigger, that nigga definitely did block it a couple of times. I can't even lie.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Look, that boy Jay, that boy Jay did, he did, he did have, he didn't have his defense up on some Floyd shit. Right? Ew, look, see? Yeah, now ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. Them taekwondo classes definitely paid off.
Starting point is 01:40:23 And I always said Jay, no matter what I say about him, he's a legend for in this moment, like not reacting Jay's a legend yo I come from Jamaica you see it's not playing with me like yo Jesus take the wheel
Starting point is 01:40:37 you start doing all this type of shit but Jay this is why I know Jay's bill for all of this because in a moment that I don't know maybe he is thinking about cameras but he definitely held his composure did not react
Starting point is 01:40:52 did not do anything did not hit back did not you know he was just chilling by the Beyonce's here my boy was and waving. I think she spit on him or something like that. He's just chilling.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Yeah, Beyonce was just sitting here. Calm. She didn't give two fucks. Look. Oh, the kick happened. Look. Oh. Hey, yo, now,
Starting point is 01:41:17 Jay was on time and still. I go to a lot of it. This security could have definitely had her pinned against the wall. The security wanted Jay to get his ass kick to. Keep it to me. I've always said Solange is like, Salon's, like, Salon's,
Starting point is 01:41:39 you know how they told about Chris Brown? Salon's worse. She never got criminally charged prosecutor for none of that. We've seen Ray Rice in his hotel elevator video. He fucking got, he got charged and convicted, I believe. Yo, Beyonce looks so calm right here. I feel like Beyonce must have seen the camera.
Starting point is 01:42:17 So this thing is trying to get out of the elevator. It's crazy as hell. She is still cussing out Jay. Still cussing out Jay. Beyonce's chilling there. Beyonce's not saying a word. Calm down salons. I'm sorry that the greatest rapper don't want.
Starting point is 01:42:34 and she's cussing this thing out. Anyway, long story short, yeah, long story short, Jay's like, let me get out of here. Long story short is there's some new information coming out. It's on verified, but it's saying that Jay Z Salon's fight was over Rachel Roy, which I don't know if this is true, but like that's crazy if it was. Their claimants over Rachel Roy. Check this out. Salange Elevator Fight is back in the spotlight,
Starting point is 01:43:14 and now an eyewitness from the 2014 Met Gala says he knows exactly what set it off. Fashion designer Oscar G. Lopez, who made Rachel Roy's gown that night, claims Jay-Z complimented Roy's dress, and Solange felt the comment crossed a line. Minutes later, Solange swung at Jay-Z in the standard hotel elevator,
Starting point is 01:43:33 while Beyonce stood between them, a clip that turned into one of the... Okay. Now, we're going to get into the Rachel Roy in a bit, but it's kind of interesting. So they're saying that, you know, and now everybody's reporting it. And so the fashion designer Rachel Roy,
Starting point is 01:43:51 it's shedding light on what really went down. Okay, Oscar Lopez, I'm creating the dress, blah, blah, okay, cool. Quirraultz knows the tacks her brother-in-law because he complimented Rachel Roy's dress. Beyonce's sisters felt it was not appropriate, so it was kind of drama there, the designer alleged. At the time, Nose was 39, was caught on security camera.
Starting point is 01:44:13 Is that Salonzo? Salonzo is 39? How old Salon? Lunging at Empire State Minor rapper, who's now 56. Oh, now they are that age. While exiting the Met Gallup party and punching them several times while Beyonce looked on. Fans have speculated what it had to do with,
Starting point is 01:44:31 and apparently they're saying it was reported to Jay Z's reported infidelity and that Rachel Roy, a former friend of Salad, was his affair partner. Now, this is explosive chat. At the time, page 6 reported that Salons had become drunk at the afterpartying and got into an argument with Roy, US Weekly quoted the anonymous source saying that Cranes in the Sky's singer had flipped out over something Jay Z said, and those in Jay Z later leaves a joint statement, called him an incident of an unfortunate and a private matter that has played in.
Starting point is 01:45:01 out in public. The most important things that our family has worked through at all. Now this is this is the dress that Rachel Roy was wearing. So last night this is some stylists. I had the honor of dressing Rachel Roar for the 2014 MacGala. I made her
Starting point is 01:45:20 this black French lace gown with a choker neckline. Okay, cool. So now they're claiming, and this is where it gets deeper and like interested, right? So Rachel Roy is like the former woman of Dame Dash. Chat. Now, you get, you get what I'm going with this, right?
Starting point is 01:45:41 If this is remotely true, and I don't know if it's true, so I'm just going to say allegedly here with everything. If Salonj gets mad at Jay-Z for compliment in Rachel Roy's dress, maybe over a potential idea or, you know, thing that Jay-Z had with Rachel Roy, you know what it says? Yo, JZ was on some Diddy shit Jay Z was smashing Dame Dash girl Like how Diddy was smashing 50s girl
Starting point is 01:46:12 Right? Look, Rachel Roy Dame Dash Chad They were married from 2005 to 2009 They got two daughters together And yeah If in 2014 Which is five years after the marriage
Starting point is 01:46:31 JZ is fucking getting attacked by his wife's sister over supposedly an affair with Rachel Roy that would mean he did exactly what did he did to 50 Oh that's your baby moms? All right, I'm smashing her now and that might be a way to get back at you. Now, this is all speculative chat
Starting point is 01:46:53 because we really don't know if all this is true but this is now come from an eyewitness that supposedly was there. They're saying it was over Rachel Roy and they're saying that it was over some affair that Jay may have been having with Rachel Roy. Now we kind of get to like if we had to put things together. Did Jay-Z fuck Rachel Roy out of revenge for what him and Dame Dash had going on? Right?
Starting point is 01:47:20 Think about it. Wait, Rachel, you remember Rachel? The one allegedly in the middle of the Salonge Elevator Beat. Oh, some people knew this. mine. I thought this was new information. Oh, chat, didn't I tell you, bro, all of these scandals is always a woman. But I didn't know Jay-Z was on that Drake Diddy shit. And what I mean by that is fuck your ops bitch.
Starting point is 01:47:46 That's that Drake Diddy shit. Diddy, I believe, specifically wanted Daphne Joy because Daphne Joy was the baby mama of 50 and he wanted to punch dick up in her stomach. and he wanted to get her freaked off and smutted out that 50 had to accept that L that every time he saw her she was looking like a glazed donut with basically the semen from the freak off and the stench of the baby oil, the astroglid and all that shit on her body. I think he picked Daphne D'Rour specifically to get F-50. Now we get to find out so many women in the world.
Starting point is 01:48:28 Let's say if this affair is true, why would Jay-Z want to be with dame's ex-girl? Yeah. You know who Rachel is. Mm-hmm. Do you see what the alcohol did to Wendy? Nigger, Wendy was off way more than alcohol. Coke, pills, all the type of shit. They ain't alcohol, gang.
Starting point is 01:48:51 What happened to Wendy is not alcohol. Wendy said she used to do lines of coke before she got on air. They said that they had drug tests. Go read Wendy's book. Wendy's the goat, and I love Wendy. I'll never slain to her a day of my life. Wendy said that up at WBLS, they were doing drug test,
Starting point is 01:49:10 and she was off Coke. She used to do a line of Coke during commercials. She admitted this in her book. Go read it. I know about the Queen. She said, someone tipped her off like, yo, they're about to have a drug test tomorrow. She's been high off Coke every day.
Starting point is 01:49:24 She says she got a baby. diaper and squeeze the pee out of a baby's diaper into something to bring into work to use clean pee to pass the drug test. That's what when you talk about sacrifices
Starting point is 01:49:40 she wanted to be on air so bad but she was strung out on Coke. She took pee from a baby's diaper and squeezed it out and brought it in to pass that fucking drug test. Come on, you got to get it.
Starting point is 01:49:56 I know all the facts. This is why I keep saying, everybody who sits on this mic right here and talks, it's either Howard Stern, and obviously there's people before them, but it's either Howard Stern or Wendy. And we all fall up on the Wendy if we talk about hip-hop-adjacent shit because it goes into gossip.
Starting point is 01:50:13 It's not just only music talk we're having. Remember that, okay? Y'all never heard that story? Yeah, I think it's a joke. Wendy like Wendy gave her life for the shit
Starting point is 01:50:28 Wendy Williams Baby Diper This baby diaper This baby diaper Story Let me see where is the story It's in her book
Starting point is 01:50:40 Baby Diper Let me see Chuck Tess Let's see It's in her book Where She didn't really speak on it a bunch
Starting point is 01:51:02 She said Like if you ever read her book Her book shows How she went through it all. Also, her book shows how she says she knew Diddy was gay. Who else
Starting point is 01:51:13 was gay? She knew Mr. C was gay, all of that shit. I'm trying to find out of the story. She revisits. Yeah, her relationship cocaine was once the most important. It was cocaine, bro. Let me see. Wendy Williams' urine
Starting point is 01:51:55 test cocaine. And she had to pass a test WBLS. It's in her book. I don't know I can't party here. All right, anyway, you guys can go read her book. Anyway, whatever. Shout to her.
Starting point is 01:52:29 She's on the guardianship. Well, you didn't know this part. Y'all, forget what you heard. Rachel Roy really got the upper hand at the end of the day. Despite everyone coming for her over the Becky with a good hair saga, Rachel is... Wait, is this Becky with a good hair? I thought it ain't a way...
Starting point is 01:52:47 Yo, if I'm Jay, I'm cheating at least a couple... Nah, it's to be honest. You can't cheat too much. Oh, so this is Becky with a good head. Still got everything she wanted and her fashion line is still going, even though she left the mess behind her. From the minute she got with Dame Dash, she convinced him to invest in her fashion line
Starting point is 01:53:05 and then dumped him when he went broke. People have been calling her out for playing with him for years, but that wasn't enough to stop Rachel from getting what she wanted at the end. From her fashion line going bankrupt to losing her lifestyle, Rachel was seeing it all crashing in front of her. So for Rachel, she did what she needed to do just to keep going and look for another millionaire that could give her the same resources, results, and connections that Dame Dash was given her. It's just that, and that person just so happened to be Jay-Z.
Starting point is 01:53:35 But according to Rachel, she allegedly did with any woman in her shoes would have done. Let's get into this mess, y'all, because the lure behind Rachel is one heck of a wild story. How we ever heard of Rachel Roy was when she began going public with Dame Dash, and eventually she snagged him. But Rachel has been on the baller slash rapper route for a long time. She first got married to Yen Kadir, a former NBA player, but divorced him just before his death in 2004. Then she and Dame Dash got married in 2004 and 2005
Starting point is 01:54:06 and stayed married for four years until their split in 2009. But their story, even before they got married and divorced, is one heck of a roller coaster. Y'all, it looks like Rachel has been working to get the hooks on Dame Dash for a wild now. Right now, Dame Dash and Jay-Z can't even see eye-to-eye anymore, especially with the way that Rockefeller came crashing down. But back in the day, when Jay-Z and Damon and Dash were actually friends and their label was going strong, the two of them used to share women all the time. That ain't no secret. And word on the street is that Rachel Roy was one of those women. So Rachel was
Starting point is 01:54:41 allegedly already in their lives from the get-go. However, all of that went out the window once Dame got without Leah. Dane was madly. in love with Alia. And it was all about her. So whatever he and Rachel had going on immediately came to a screeching halt. But at one point, Rachel wasn't going anywhere. She and Dame had already had their daughter, Ava Dash, and there was no way to shut the door on her completely. So after Alia passed, guess who was waiting around in the wings for Dame Dash to come back and get her? Yep, Rachel Roy. And it didn't take them long to finally get married. And girl, when I tell you that their relationship had everyone gagged, I mean, gagged.
Starting point is 01:55:19 people who had seen the two of them together felt like there was absolutely no chemistry between them. I see why, yo, for me, I can see why Dame, I think Dame going through a lot of turmoil, man. Yo, Dame was really that guy back in the day, bro.
Starting point is 01:55:34 Dame was fucking all the girls that Jay wanted. Like, let's think about this. Jay wanted Alia. Dame was in that. Jay wanted her. Jay couldn't get her. Jay didn't get her first. Dame was in it.
Starting point is 01:55:48 Yo, How are you executive getting all the bitches, you should be fucking in. You're the star. The only one he got was Beyonce, bro. And they also wondered how Rachel Roy was able to entertain and come. You know what it is? Back in the day, I think if you put Jay and Dame in the room, Jay probably dirty. I'm making this up, so this could be a lot.
Starting point is 01:56:13 Dame probably dirty Mac. He'll overtalk. He's a light for the, like, you know, he's a loud guy. He's joking all you. He's probably trying to clown you, whatever. He's the type of niggil who he's going to do the most to get the girl. It looked like he routinely got the girl. Compliment, Dames's personality and even louder behavior most of the time.
Starting point is 01:56:33 However, it didn't take long to see why she linked up with him and stayed for as long as she did. Before they got married, Rachel had been grinding all this time as a fashion intern, waiting for the day that she would finally get her big break and get a come up in order to make a name for herself. as a brand. But if any of that was going to happen, she needed connections and access to the right people and places. And Dame was the right person to give her just that. He already started with Rockaway Clothing Line and he also did state property and C. Ronson and they were all relatively successful. So not long after they got married, Rachel went from being a fashion intern to a crazy, popular and successful brand. Everyone was wearing her clothes, from Michelle Obama to
Starting point is 01:57:15 Oprah to other celebs like Kate Hudson and Jennifer Garner and Ava Mendez, Kim Kardashian, and even Iman. And with how cutthroat the fashion industry can be, Rachel may not have been able to pull all of that off if it wasn't for Dame Dash, and the brand was reaching new heights more than anyone could have ever imagined. But while her brand kept breaking milestones, Dame started to experience money issues that no one saw coming. He basically went from me in one of the most successful black men in Hollywood to losing his assets, trying to start. settle his piling debts. Now, if you ask Dame, he'll tell you that
Starting point is 01:57:49 he went broke, investing in his dreams. But this was the same man who had two lofts in Tribeca, a home in London, another mansion in New Jersey, and a villa in Beverly Hills. Dame Dash was spending recklessly while trying to hold on the Rockefeller and kept on sinking money
Starting point is 01:58:05 into very unsuccessful business ventures. I would love to do the things Dame did. Fly private for five years straight. buy two mansions in London. You got a mansion in London just for your niggas and then a personal mansion
Starting point is 01:58:19 in London for something else or renting them or whatever. You just got mansions in London. We're not even from London. We're just going to fucking London hanging out and I put them with my artists or really more Jim and Jewel's but we're all dipset S-A-S.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Just out in London spending money. I would love to have two lofts and try back right around the corner for each other. 20,000 for this law, 20,000 for that law for around the corner. So you got $40,000 a month. But Rachel didn't seem too bothered
Starting point is 01:58:52 by anything going on with Dame. In fact, she just piled on to his stack of lawsuits by filing for divorce. She wasn't even looking for spousal support because Dame was nothing more than dead weight while he was drowning in financial trouble. Her brand was still doing well and there wasn't any reason to bring Dame along for that ride.
Starting point is 01:59:10 So she... The shit, it's her brand. Cancel popping, Rachel Roy? Cut ties with him and move straight out without looking back. But y'all, it didn't take long for Rachel Roy to start looking for some backup again when her fashion line started to face some serious trouble. According to multiple sources, close to the situation, in 2013, the Jones Group, which had a majority stake in Roy's fashion line,
Starting point is 01:59:35 claimed that they had lost millions back in her line and planned to sell the trademarks for $15 million to make up for the money they'd lost. Rachel needed to move fast and immediately took them to court to stop the cell and thankfully she was able to settle with them out of court. But then there was another massive problem waiting for her because she couldn't afford a multi-million dollar price tag to buy her business back and she needed to find anyone who could back her up and help her get back on track once again. And that right person just so happened to allegedly be Jay-Z. One of the people she had a thing with right before she was trying to get her way into the fashion industry. But sure, here's where it goes.
Starting point is 02:00:12 get super messy. Rumors of Jay-Z stepping out on Beyonce had been going on as far back at 2013. And then Salange going after Jay-Z only fueled these rumors that something wasn't right in the Carter household. Then Beyonce came out with Lemonade in 2016, basically confirming that Jay-Z had stepped out on her with Becky with a good hair. And that just sent fans spiraling because everyone was trying to figure out who Jay-Z was stepping out on Beyonce for.
Starting point is 02:00:39 And here's where things get a bit more interesting. As fans were trying to figure out who Beyonce was talking about, Rachel posted a picture seemingly taunting Beyonce. Oh, good hair don't care, but we will take the good lighting for selfies or self-truths. Oh, oh shit. Say with the caption, Good hair don't care, but we will take good lighting for selfies or self-truths anyway. And baby, that was all it took to get the internet into a frenzy. People weren't going to let her live that down, and they filled her comment. with the emojis and even went as far as changing her profile on Wikipedia.
Starting point is 02:01:17 But that only lasted a while because even with all that, Rachel Roy still got what she wanted. Her brand is up and running once again and regardless of what people thought, she always got what she wanted out of the situation and left relatively unscathed. Now, even when people think about Jay-Z cheating and stepping out like that, Rachel's name really isn't brought into the conversation. So I guess for Rachel, a win is a win. Damn. I wonder how, I wonder how Dames feels about that. Has Dames spoke about this? Dame dash J-Z Rachel Roy. Oh, he spoke about nine years.
Starting point is 02:01:54 You were married at one point to Rachel Roy. That relationship ended in divorce. And, you know, there are, you know, whispers at lemonade, the Becky with the good hair. Y'all asking me that? That's y'all asking me that. I would think, I would just think y'all ask me, like, you know, not a gossipy, chatty questions. I don't really care about none of that. And here's why I'm going with this. Yeah, guilty. Guilty. Yep. Guilty.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Yeah. That's guilty. Yup. There you go. I'm asking that when these types of things affect you, not on a public level, but on a private level as a man, how have you been able to deal with that and continue to keep going? It's not about what are they saying. What I'm asking you as a man, not on the public side, on a personal side. We're public right now, and we're doing everybody.
Starting point is 02:02:38 No, but I'm asking you personally. What I'm saying is, how do you get up from that? You keep asking me the same question. I don't take it as serious as you do. I really don't listen to public media or social. Nah, nah, Jay fuck this bitch, man. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:02:51 Nah, Jay fuck this bitch. Damn. Yo, I keep telling you, bro, like, yo, when we look back at the history of what's going on in the music business, it's always a nigga who fucked another nigga's bitch, bro. You feel me? There's a girl at the center of it. King Vaughn.
Starting point is 02:03:10 young boy got Jenea somewhere in the mist like come on bro come on there's always a woman bro always a woman I don't really know but again I didn't say public I said how does it affect you I'm telling you it doesn't affect me at all so whatever they're saying out there doesn't affect me in here I got my girl I got my woman I got my children that's all that affects me that social network I don't hmm yeah why did I forget this if it's not like that he won't get that corporate
Starting point is 02:03:54 check, you know what I'm saying? I'm not corporate, so we have a completely different mentality for just that. Nah, now this makes sense. Nah, this makes sense. Oh, it's just as claims he tried to talk to Beyonce? Oh yeah, if he tried to, if he's trying to talk
Starting point is 02:04:29 to Beyonce back in the day, you can see why Jay had it up for him. Number at this Victoria's Secret show, but I was, to me, she was like a little girl. So I was going after Giselle. Oh, you look at Dave Look at Dave trying to make it seem like
Starting point is 02:04:47 Oh, and Jay got with Beyonce and she's a little girl I mean, I ran into it once And I think I got a number at this Victoria's Secret show But I was, to me, she was like a little girl So I was going after Giselle You know, I wasn't going It was like just everybody And not only Campbell was a lot of people that
Starting point is 02:05:07 She hadn't realized the potential yet But it was because I didn't I honestly was like, I'll call you to talk to you. But that was like a year two before, you know, that she wasn't, she was probably like an almost, like she was, I don't want to say this because it was triggered too much. So, but I never tried to talk to her after that. Well, I would never, I'm not looking. I mean, you know, we're rock stars.
Starting point is 02:05:31 So yes, definitely. Well, I ever, never looked at one of his girls and said, I'm a smasher. That never happened. Once he would hit the chick, then I'm not fucking with it. But before we would go hard. But he would do that a lot. Oh, see? So he basically saying, he said, yo, Jay would try to, he would get with a girl like Alia.
Starting point is 02:05:50 And Jay would still be trying to fuck her. Oh, Jay was a slimy, nigga. You know, girls, you know, again, I'll put it in the book. You know, but I never chased his chicks. But sometimes if there was a choice, they would choose me a lot. And sometimes they would choose him. but I you know Ali had
Starting point is 02:06:11 if he would have touched her physically at all you know any penetration or anything like that then I could have never wiped her that would have never I'm not a guy that's ever going to wife a girl that my friends I'm not ever going to do that you understand what I'm saying I couldn't do that
Starting point is 02:06:27 I can't walk in the room and they got that connection not never so the only reason why we were both going at her but I she chose me that's all but it wasn't wasn't like I was trying to take his girl. I mean, he might have PTSD because of that. Which I'm sure he did.
Starting point is 02:06:43 Yo, he said that niggins. Jay had PTSD from Dave to keep taking his bitches. Oh, I can't help how a girl feels. But, you know, I wouldn't. Yo, chat, I'm going to keep it to beat. I'm now starting to realize. I know that played a part into it, too. Jay's ego.
Starting point is 02:07:03 You're the guy. Yeah, maybe he started as friendly like y'all competing for chicks but like man at a certain point because i could imagine it was getting a little bit messy too like you know i mean dame doing a little bit too much to get these chicks jay like yo it was inevitable you never you never compete with you if you want somebody to be a friend and trust me i learned it because in college that's all i did me and the homies all we did was compete over women and we're not compete over women but we would compete about who got to the most woman.
Starting point is 02:07:42 The problem only came when we competed over the same woman. And that became a problem because you would see, like, there'll be things that would go down. Like, I think I, I told you that a story already, right? Did I have to tell you the story with my homie recording me? That it then kills the friendship where you're like, damn, you're doing the most to just get with the chick, like, bro, like, I don't know if I fuck with you that much anymore.
Starting point is 02:08:11 more and that that erodes the friendship over time right i probably told you that a story really he knows i would never do that you know i don't even i don't even look i don't even look at i don't even listen to biontay records because i don't want to want to fuck her i don't want to see her shake her body i don't even though j i still consider my brother i don't i've never really know what she looks like you wait i never told you that story okay okay some people know the story. I'll make it real quick. Yo, I'm in college. I'm a DJ. I'm like literally,
Starting point is 02:08:49 bro, I haven't going to cap with you. So, you know, this is like the latter years of my college career. I'm feeling like the man now. I'm going to keep the bean. Like, you know what I mean? This is the most women I've ever gotten. I had like about five or six chicks. Like, I felt like I had a roster. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:09:05 I knew I was the nigga when I'm like, damn, I got enough women like that I could cycle through that could be on a basketball team, right? But I'm a popping D.C. at the time right i'm about to leave record so this is right before two years before youtube kind of pops off so this is like 2012 yeah this is like 2012 youtube kind of pops off like 14 for me okay bet so i'm doing like i'm i'm doing that and there's a chick that's kind of on a roster but like she almost like a bench play i'm not saying like facetious to you're like chondissa
Starting point is 02:09:36 i'm just saying like bro i see her once in a while i don't really give two fucks like that right you know I mean, like, I see her once every two weeks. She was a freshman. I was a senior, right? I see her every once every two weeks. And in reality, like, you know, a little bit TMI here, chat. I only kept her, I only kept her on the squad because she was good to just, you know what I mean, like, you know what I mean? She was like a brain surgeon.
Starting point is 02:09:59 She was like, she was one of them ticks that. She came to college. She's a virgin. Anyway, I learned a couple lessons with this. She would come to the career, whatever, whatever, whatever. And the whole time I'm thinking, I'm like, why am I even fucking? with this virgin, bro. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:10:13 But whatever. I made the fatal mistakes and learned from me. I used to because now I'm feeling like I'm the guy. I start bragging to my homies about, yo, you know, I got this girl, that girl, this girl, that girl, you feel me? And I would brag about this girl on how, like, you know what I mean, her skills of being a brain surgeon was. I'm like, yo, this chick is fire.
Starting point is 02:10:35 You feel me? Now, that's rule number one. I want to tell all you, I meant this in life. And this applies to women, too. women don't go tell your other home girls about how your man fuck you too good your girl gonna want to try that man out and niggas don't tell your man's about how you got the chick that's the throat goat and that she she got the wetted shit you've ever seen nigga it's wetter than the motherfucking pacific that nigga is like especially if she keep coming around one day you never know right i'm telling you trust me on this and i know Some of y'all are going to be like, nah, that's just the niggas you would.
Starting point is 02:11:11 See, that's why I got to put everything in the context. Because these weren't, like, Shorty wasn't my girlfriend, right? Shorty's just a girl that, like, you know what I mean, come around once in a while. So, like, the homies look and I just hit it. And you know how niggas are. Oh, okay, like, you're not that serious about her. You got other girls. So one of my boys, like, behind my dad, I even know.
Starting point is 02:11:31 He started hitting it. Remember, she told me she a virgin. He started cracking. Actually, he took her virginity. I ain't gonna lie to you. But he was doing the shit. I wasn't doing it because I was just treating her like, I'm like, yo, whenever she's ready to lose it,
Starting point is 02:11:42 she'll let me know type of shit. She's like the sixth personal roster. I won't get fun. Anyway, I find out later. I found out later, right? The way I found out was mad funny. It was like the end of the year. It was the biggest event.
Starting point is 02:11:55 I think School Boy Q, if y'all go back to the timeline of me being in college, schoolboy Q, we just brought him to Rutgers University and he performed. Either School Board Q or Kendrick. It might be Kendrick. Ooh, interesting. 2012, Unity Day, Kendrick Lamar. I think it might have been Kendrick.
Starting point is 02:12:15 Oh, my God, it's just, fuck. You're not even going to find it. Oh, I got Rutgers University. That's the only time I've ever seen Kendrick in my life, by the way. Yeah. Yeah, performs at Rutgers University. Yeah. No, her.
Starting point is 02:12:30 Yeah, this is me right here. This is fucking Kendrick. This is me. This is my laptop. I don't know who Kendrick DJ was. but I like Kendrick DJ used my laptop. I was DJ in the event. This is Kendrick, right?
Starting point is 02:12:41 So everything I'm saying, I'm not just shooting from the air, nigga. After this, we had an after party. Oh, by the way, the nigger who did it, he was the president of the org. He's right here. The nigga who didn't stand next? Because he's my man, right?
Starting point is 02:12:56 You feel me? Like, we were a one-two tag team that's on some shit, you know? Like, he would put me as the big DJ to DJ the event. I live with him. this was um his organization was called black student union and this is 2012 um we do a party after this right so it was like an after party kensig ain't coming to the party clearly we we paid kensig $3,500 right you know what I mean like he came out I think he had brought schoolboy cute the first
Starting point is 02:13:26 year and then the second year we paid school boy Q3,500 and he brought ab so and then the third year we booked ab so anyway I don't know why. It was just cheaper than anybody on the East Coast. Everybody on the East Coast was just wilder with prices. You feel on me? Like we had a small budget, at least the organization. So, anyway, so here's the story.
Starting point is 02:13:46 We're doing the after party. I think it's this year or maybe it's the next year, which is it would be 13. And that year would be School Boy Q. So that would be Rutgers University School Boy Q. Yeah, right here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is it.
Starting point is 02:14:22 So it's one of those. Either when Kendrick or Skooker's Kew came there. And we have this after party. So this is I'm telling you how I found out my man is smashing Shorty. Okay, Ben. So now, all right, I was doing both events. Matter of fact, I think I got a vlog. Rutgers University
Starting point is 02:14:37 Academic School Boy Kill I think I did a vlog I think I did a vlog because I had like the hands on the wheel Oh yeah it's on academics TV Like these are all facts
Starting point is 02:14:47 I'm telling you Chad Like there's an old channel called Academic TV You can go watch it 13 years ago right So this is me DJing the shit I couldn't use real music blah blah
Starting point is 02:14:56 Yeah Okay cool All right cool And then I had to DJ Right after Oh Abso was there too Look See Absso I told you
Starting point is 02:15:04 No lies to right bet they get a shout out from us on whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever okay cool it wasn't that packed hanging a loti but you know we made made the best oh you see you see that blind ass bitch right here okay there you go and then bet we see and you got to switch it up you got to keep people interesting because when you still okay okay all good all good good good good good and um Yeah, anyway, so after this happens, after this happens, oh, my man's back there again, I won't show him, because I want to docksy. So, I really think it's the Kendrick thing.
Starting point is 02:15:50 But, no, no, I think we had a lit after party for the Kendrick shit. I think we had a mid-after party, but I think it was for school. Anyway, the point is this. I do this event, and I had another event, and then I had the after-party. So I was like, bro, at this point, I'm just DJing a lot, my nigga. Like, yo, I got my mom's there. the three, I would put a big ass speaker in the front seat, like, and like, my man's would be in the back, like, it was crazy with the tops. And the tops were, um, just speakers. They're called tops. If you, you know, anyway, so I go to the after party and, you know, it's one of those things as a DJ, like, you kind of invite everybody to, to the after party, right? So really, I'm inviting all girls I'm fucking with, right? Why? Because I just want a party to be packed. You know what I mean? Of course. By the way, rule of thumb. Never. invite all your girls to a party.
Starting point is 02:16:41 Like, if you're fucking multiple girls here in college, you do not do that. But I'm a DJ. I just want it to be lit. So I'm inviting everybody and I'm like, it's not like I'm going to be doing PDA or nothing like that. I'm like, just everybody coming to the party. I just need to get the, yo, I've had the crazy after party did it. Wow.
Starting point is 02:16:57 So I had like one of my main chicks, she was with me. And then the girl in question that we're talking about, she uh, she told me she was coming. But I was like, all right, yeah, you should pull up, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, she pulls up with my man's. Chat, she pulls up with my man's, right?
Starting point is 02:17:19 So she pulls up with my man's, which, again, you know, I don't want to docks him or whatever, but let's get to the reason why we can't go to stage. Yeah. But, yeah, that's Kendrick. Okay, okay. I'm in the back somewhere. You know, I don't know. Oh, right here.
Starting point is 02:17:45 Right here. Okay, so this is me. This is my man, right? So cool. We go to the after party. My main chick kind of with me, she's behind the DJ booth. You know, yo, you know, the girl who's fucking,
Starting point is 02:17:58 let me tell you, that's another thing too. Chat, you ever, like, because I know how to read Instagrams these days. Anytime I see a chick video from behind a DJ booth, she's sucking the DJ's dick. Trust me, I was the guy. So anytime a girl's behind a DJ booth is never no good.
Starting point is 02:18:13 Just always. know she's fucking a DJ. Trust. So I got my main, like, chick on campus that's there. But I do know other girls I'm rocking with it's in the building, but it's so many, it's going to be like 400 people.
Starting point is 02:18:24 So who cares? Everybody's in the building, but I remember watching when Shorty, who I was fucking with, but she a virgin, allegedly, came in the building when she came with my man. I'm like, my man's living with me.
Starting point is 02:18:36 He probably just, he run the org. He probably giving out rides. It's college. Not everybody has a car. I did look over one time. time she kind of dancing aggressively on my man's and I'm like wait hold on but I can't
Starting point is 02:18:49 say nothing I got a girl with me I can't be like yo what's going on over it so I just let it let it go whatever type of shit right eventually my man was hitting for like a month or two he confronts her because here's the problem too
Starting point is 02:19:04 the reason why you shouldn't compete over the same woman with your man's like everything I'm saying is facts like anybody who's been in the situation been to college you've lived life a little bit, you're going to be like, nah, I can understand. The reason why you don't compete over, like, it's cool if you're in your friend group,
Starting point is 02:19:21 this is young shit. This is not no grown man shit. So let me let you know this. I'm not jacking this as, I'm not jacking this as some grown man shit. I'm jacking this as I'm in college and we're doing college a little bit immature shit. We're competing on who could fuck the most girls every semester.
Starting point is 02:19:37 I'm being honest. That's like the competition to be at. Like, yo, who don't fuck the most chicks? You know what I mean? Like, yo, I fucked a new chick. But like, wait, how much you had? I'm at five this semester. They'd be like, damn, I'm at three.
Starting point is 02:19:49 Like, it was immature. Trust me. I get it. But, you know, at that time, yo, you're 1920, 21. That's what it was, right? But I'm giving you all advice. Never compete over the same woman with a friend. I'm going to tell you what.
Starting point is 02:20:05 You never know when your friend care about that woman more than you. And what I mean by that is that sometimes you might, you're doing like for me i was doing out of ego he liked the girl so i'm thinking i you know made the best man win i got a few things going for me i'm like i'm the most lit DJ i'm this guy like like i'm basically like in college is all about status football players i'm breaking out college for y'all football players fuck all the bitches like you can't go against a football player because most colleges have a football team that's good they run shit so if a football player wants a bitch you have no chance then the basketball team depending on where you
Starting point is 02:20:46 at if you have a white basketball team maybe not buddy then the basketball team don't try to compete with a basketball player for a bitch like he's gonna win okay depending on certain places you may have the soccer team like records we had a good soccer team whatever but then it gets to frat boys now we're black so we're not talking about white frat boys we're talking about d9 shit right which means divine now we're talking about the the cues the alphas the iota We're talking about the Kappas. That's them shimmie-ass niggas. They'd be dancing to boozy shit,
Starting point is 02:21:17 wipe me down, all that shit, whatever. Then obviously, you know, like the Zetas, the A.K.A.s. The... Or deltas or whatever on the female side. The frat people, they, you know, just off of every party in college, especially a black party,
Starting point is 02:21:39 you start seeing everybody doing a straight. and shit, and women love that shit. So if you're not an athlete, if you fall in the frat, I was about doing a frat, just to try to get bitches. I ain't go out of you. I'll tell you why I stop. The moment they said we have to do some community service, they're like, yo, y'all got to go in the city of New Brunswick and pick up mad garbage.
Starting point is 02:21:57 I'm like, what the hell? I got to do all this to get pussy. I'm like, I'm good. I'm out of here, man. Peace. Feel me? I became a deed. Well, I was a DJ already.
Starting point is 02:22:05 Anyway, yeah, so the frat dudes, they banging out checks. You feel what I'm saying? After that, they call everybody else like GDI, which is like a goddamn individual. Like, remember, no matter how much money you really have, money doesn't really matter when you're on a college campus. Nobody's going to see it. Like, it's a different world. By the way, I didn't have money like that anyway. But it's all about status.
Starting point is 02:22:29 So like right below the frat miggas, that's where I fell up. I'm like the DJ who's lit and everybody comes to college to party. So they want to be friends with the DJ. So it would be like women who constantly would hit me like, yo, what's up with a party? They just follow me wherever I'm going for the night. So I bet. So I'm competing with my man's.
Starting point is 02:22:50 Who's my man's? And I remember I told you this is all about status. Yeah, the story is starting to a long thing, huh? I'm trying to drop some jewels in there for people who've been to college or never been to college. Or at least been to a college like I've been to. It's a big college that, you know, it's definitely a heavy white, a lot of white people there,
Starting point is 02:23:04 but we have our own black population that was popping, right? So my man's, he's the president. So this organization that brought Kendrick there is called Black Student Union. He's the president of it. You know what I mean? That's like being, I don't know, NWACP or some shit or like being the president of Black Lives Matter. I don't know what the fuck, nigger. It's just like being the president of the biggest black org.
Starting point is 02:23:29 You know what I mean? That's my man. We live together. But he's a nigger. We competing for whatever. So I'm using my DJ status. obviously some Riz he's using his status is running this organization and obviously some Riz so now and I'm sorry I have to like explain that to y'all we get to the joint so either
Starting point is 02:23:47 Kendrick Performer Schoolwork Kew one of those years and we do the after party and I noticed I'm like man I was kind of crazy anyway look like he had liked her I didn't know he liked her and I didn't know he was fucking he forces her I guess he was telling her like yo if you don't tell my nigga that we're fucking I'm gonna I'm gonna tell him and like I don't even know what his plan was, but I had no idea. So supposedly every time I would leave the crib to go DJ at another college, I would go to Montclair State,
Starting point is 02:24:16 I would go to TCNJ, Rowan, I would go to Ramapo. These are all Jersey colleges. I'll go DJ. Shorty lives at Rutgers. So she would just slide through to the crib. I never knew she was coming to the crib to fuck my homie. I never knew. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:24:30 Like call me whatever you want. I just never knew, bro. It's okay. But also I had other girls and I wasn't pressed. but I did get a little bit pressed because now I can't let a nigga take my bitch You know what I mean? One in the chat if you know about just ego
Starting point is 02:24:43 It's not even that you care about the chick that much You just like yo This nigga is not going to take my girl Like because I usually be like yo I think it's can't take my bitch as bro anyway Cool So I find out that he's in whatever I was really disgusted
Starting point is 02:24:58 Lokey but out of ego and competition Because we've been competing I'm like yo I told Shorty, I said, I'll fuck with you, but you can't ever talk to my nigger ever again. Now, he had this work. We both live in the same house, niggins. He lived upstairs. I live on the second floor. We lived like on the house right outside of workers.
Starting point is 02:25:17 So Shorty would come to my house. This is a goofiest shit ever. Y'all going to be like, this is dumb. She would come to my house and she would like, because she's trying to, like, you know, she's trying to, she's trying to, like, be an important girl in my life. But really, I don't really care about it that much. I just care that this nigga is when we now talking, he's like, yo, I took her from me.
Starting point is 02:25:41 I'm like, you took who? All right, hold up now, nigga. So now I got to act like I really like this girl. So this is story time, right? So, shorthy starts saying to me, no, no. So she would come to the house. The nigga would be in the kitchen sometimes. Like, my rule for her is like, I'll keep fucking with you.
Starting point is 02:26:02 But you can't talk to my roommate ever again. I think she would be ignoring the nigga like crazy Like just walk past him like he don't exist I'm like The women are interested Because I'm like this thing was definitely fuck you Anyway and keep in mind He took her Virginia
Starting point is 02:26:16 She was legit virginia Like I didn't even I fucked her after I found out She was fucking him Real talk So anyway And I'm gonna get to the part That this whole story is predicated on
Starting point is 02:26:27 Um I He was trying to talk to her But remember A part of me finding out and talking to her, I say, you can't deal with my roommate. My roommate or my guy, which is right here,
Starting point is 02:26:46 he reached out to her one time and he said, yo, I just want to let you know some shit. And basically, this resulted in her stopped talking to me. So randomly one time she just cut me off. Now keep in mind, I have other women I'm dealing with. but she kind of becomes important because now it's like a flex to my homie who he was like yo act the girl you thought was a virgin i fucked her first and i took her from you now i'm like
Starting point is 02:27:20 no you didn't take her nigga she's still my bitch and she don't talk to you stupid shit we're in college bro we're in college i'm that bro this is i want to let people know like because i don't think people think this is my mentality now right okay she cuts me off and now like this is kind of It's not even like for a girl who was that or that less of important to me in terms of the overall scheme of things, I was blowing up her phone like, damn, what's up? She agreed to meet with me one time and I said, yo, yo, we were good. I forgave you for what you did with my roommate. What happened? She was like, yo, I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 02:28:00 I think I'm going to start fucking back with your roommate. And I'm like, I get it. That nigga too. She said, that's not it. she's like yo bro you got you got like six girls on campus like you're fucking mad other girls i'm not even an important girl you're fucking with like why are you stringing me along so the whole time she's saying it i'm like what are you talking about she's like yo i know you got a girl that live over there and cast him back that was like the female college the female campus
Starting point is 02:28:30 who be on douglas i'm like what do you now she's saying shit that i ain't a lot of you It's true. But you know when you gas-line, you're looking at her straight in the face. What are you talking about? But I'm like, this shit kind of accurate. Yo, I'm gas-liding her so much. Yo, she's like, yo, come on. Just cut the bullshit.
Starting point is 02:28:51 I'm like, come on. Yo, what are you talking about? Like, I'll rock with you. She opens her phone and she hits play. Nigger, it's a voice recording of me talking about all the bitches. I got on campus. I'm like, yo, my bitch from here? Oh, my gosh, she's fine. That, nigga, like,
Starting point is 02:29:12 I talked about every chick. Nigger, this shit was like a wiretap. This is some gunna, some gunna king slime 6-9, like, whatever your favorite cooperating shit is. Nigger, she had to wiretap on me. She played it.
Starting point is 02:29:28 We're sitting in the car. I'm flabbergasted. How did you get this? Because the whole time I'm gas-line her acting like I'm not fucking nobody. else. Everybody knows for you about. But I'm telling her I'm not fucking nobody else. She plays the audio of me bragging about all the pitches. I'm fucking. I'm like, oh my God. No. She then tells me my roommate, my guy, my guy recorded me and I instantly remembered what happened. We lived together. We lived together. So we used to compete over girls. So one day,
Starting point is 02:30:06 I guess after the girl, like, cut him off, and I thought I won. I thought it's over. I go into the living room, and we just pop and shit. We niggas. We pop and shit at each other. I'm like, man.
Starting point is 02:30:16 Y, niggas don't even know. Man, I met this other shit, bro. Like, yo, I'm about to have mad bitches on campus. Like, so I now remember the date because he was asking questions like a fan. Like, he was like, man. He's like, man, how many bitches you got? I said, how many bidsas I got?
Starting point is 02:30:31 Yo, nigger, for real? Bro, you know I got six bidsies on campus. Hey, bro, you know I got a bitch that live in this dorm, you know I got two that live in here. The other girls, she don't look good, but she could cook it, she got fat ass, she lived here. Bro, I broke the whole shit down. The nigger, he set me up by asking me the question
Starting point is 02:30:48 and recorded me and sent it to the bitch to say, this the nigga you fucking with? She cut me off after that. After that, that's when I realized, number one, we were on some childish shit, number one. But number two, I don't do the competition with your man's. And I used to do it. I ain't wrong.
Starting point is 02:31:07 I can't compete with my own man's over a girl because here's the thing Like you know I know the story been a little bit long The story been a little bit long And I know somebody I'm like bro we heard it already So after that Remember she cut she cut me off
Starting point is 02:31:23 And then she played me the audio And then I'm like damn now Yo I told my brother's story I never knew he never knew a story But I told him the story like a couple months ago He was like yo bro how didn't you fade that nigga Yeah we never fought Like we were both
Starting point is 02:31:37 on some this is how like we were in a fucked up mindset we were like damn i was like i wouldn't stoop that low but i guess it's part of the game because nigga i ain't going to lie like he brought a i remember here brought some white took around nigga i took her like i was like stole that shit you feel me so we were on some shit like yo this is like this is like some caveman shit anything kind of goes even though the recording was wild like i was like bro like why you recorded me whatever cool so she when she plays me the audio I riz her back up. She cuts him off.
Starting point is 02:32:14 He finds a way to talk to her. Then she cuts me off. But we're just competing with her. Anyway, there's a point. Remember, she's like now about like a sophomore. She comes to me and she says, yo, I'm going to keep it a beat with you because we're both telling her the same thing.
Starting point is 02:32:27 I'll fuck with you, but you can't talk to the other thing, right? She comes to me and him and she says, yo, check this out. Yo, I'm tired of this back and forth. I'm tired of, I talk to you. I talk to you, I don't talk to you, I talk to him, I talk, you. Yo, I want to be able to talk to both y'all.
Starting point is 02:32:46 So I want to be able to be with both y'all niggins. And I ain't going to allow to you, Ted, that shit sobered me up out of all. I don't know if I was doing it was. I don't know what it was, but that shit sobered me up. Because I'm a big-ass freshman. That's a lit DJ on campus. This is a little freshman. No, no, I'm a big-ass senior.
Starting point is 02:33:07 I'm a senior. My bad. if I spoke a senior that's lit on campus. This is a freshman telling me I'm going to talk to you and your, and your roommate. Hold on now. Like, yo, you must think we're some bum-ass knick.
Starting point is 02:33:20 So I stopped talking to her. Low-key, he dated her for five years. That told me all I need to know, chat. That's the end of the story, really. The end of the story is, so I cut her off finally when she said, I'm not going to keep going back and forth.
Starting point is 02:33:40 I want to be able to talk to you and you. And I'm like, bitch, you like, you're a freshman. You are nobody. You know, stop playing. I'm like, you know what? You could just have that nigga. He dated her for five years afterwards. Five years.
Starting point is 02:33:53 And that told me, I was just trying to compete with my man's just off of like, yo, we're young. We just trying to brag about who could get pussy because we feel like we feel like we're being validated. The nigger liked her. the nigga recorded me because he loved her you get what I'm saying like nigga I had other women I was dealing with I would have never made her my girlfriend he loved her and he would have the nigga recorded me
Starting point is 02:34:20 me and his relationship got a little bit weird after but it just told me like don't ever compete with a girl don't ever compete for the same girl with your man's because whoever who likes her more is going to do something that probably you're going to look at your front of you're going to look at your friend a little bit different. And I know somebody I'm going to be like, nah, nah, nigger, that's just you and whatever. Bro, let me tell you this. Y'all should understand what I'm saying. If y'all meet a girl in the club and you're just thinking, oh, this is just a chick I fuck or
Starting point is 02:34:49 whatever versus a nigga who's in love with her, very different. So, yeah, I kind of understand this J shit. Well, I always understand stuff in my context, but I'm like, yeah, if y'all was doing that back and forth, I guarantee there was some slimy shit involved. guaranteed bro y'all both friends y'all both friends y'all both meeting them at the same time y'all kind of got to convince shorthy not to fuck with your friend especially if she may have met your friend first so now you yeah some slimy shit was involved bro 100% 100% you know you know niggas in the chat's like yo bro we heard the story 10 times you know i was
Starting point is 02:35:35 just trying to you know some people i guess didn't hear it but yeah yo when it comes to women you know we niggies and shit like that but Don't compete over the same women. And I personally believe that Dame Dash and Jay-Z's competitive nature among women probably led to some strained relationships. You get me? Because I guaranteed probably Jay got to a point where it's like, yo, when I meet a girl I like, I'm not introducing a dame.
Starting point is 02:36:10 You're dame my man, but me and him, we could be around the hose, not my girl. Because that's the dynamic. You understand what I'm saying? I don't really look at her. I don't listen to her music. To me, her music portrays her and the way that she dances and stuff puts her in a sexual light.
Starting point is 02:36:29 So I feel funny looking at it. I can't even really like, I don't play no Beyonce record. It's not because of Jay and the problems we have. It's because of the respect that got for her. You understand what I'm saying? So last time I saw Jay and Beyonce that was Shocker's party.
Starting point is 02:36:47 I ran into her. We talked and I said, there's Rachel right over there. And go right over there. I don't want that. I don't even want her to have the chance to like me because it's hard not to. I'm not going to say she'd do or don't.
Starting point is 02:36:57 But I don't even want that. I don't want to. I've had connection. You see how he's down playing it, right? He's capping a little bit. He's like, nah, I didn't give my, I purposely put myself in a position where
Starting point is 02:37:08 Beyonce couldn't like me. You could tell. This is a competitive thing between him and Jay. But instead of saying, Oh, Beyonce never wanted me. Beyonce always wanted Jay. He's trying to downplay it like, nah, man, I ain't want to put myself in a position that
Starting point is 02:37:24 Beyonce couldn't want me. With other people's girls and I'd be like, you know better than that. And walk off. Like, we'll get the eye. Let's stop talking because you know what he's going to go crazy. Let's go. And I'm not going to say who that is. But it's happened that I've said no to other than wives a lot
Starting point is 02:37:40 that I respect. See? That everybody knows. You know what I'm saying? But I wouldn't do that. and to n n n n n's daughters i give your daughter i get really offended when i hear that certain ns and you know you are have ran up in my daughter's dm and i'm like damn that nick is so crazy i'd be like that nuk knew you was a baby and i i'm a step to that when i see him you know what i'm saying like
Starting point is 02:38:04 yo you know that's my daughter like either way out of respect bro i know she you know it's my daughter but don't you already know what you're going to do i know i i tell me my daughter got the best So I tell everything. All these things you do want to fucking tell everybody. Do not do it. Only with somebody that really loves you, make him earn. And once he does that, he's responsible for your bills. Again, it's my theory.
Starting point is 02:38:28 I could take it or leave it. I guarantee if we fully analyze the situation with Jay and Dame, yeah, there's some business shit. I think Dame has this attitude that, bro, it's kind of like, You really got to be You got to be blessed To fucking deal with this nigga for a long time I believe that
Starting point is 02:38:51 The women's stuff Contributed Trust me, it always gets weird You and your man should never be competing For the same girl, that's the fact All right Let me see Did you see?
Starting point is 02:39:13 So Vlad TV Has interviewed Gina Conway Who is the baby Oh, not Bia Manda, but she's the woman who's involved in this Max B setup thing where she was Max B's girlfriend. Max B tells her, yo, go fuck on some guy. And then eventually she comes with the plan of setting this guy up. Here is what she is saying. By the way, of course, I got the first interview.
Starting point is 02:39:45 Okay, so now you're living in New York and Max B's your boyfriend. How's your relationship? It was pretty tumultuous, I would say. Like, you know, it was a lot of, like, a lot of, it was just crazy, like, a lot of fighting. Sometimes it was fun. You know, it was, you know, just crazy. Like, a lot of partying, you know, just new things that I was not. The irony of watching this interview, yo, you know, Gina actually looks like she's,
Starting point is 02:40:29 like her voice still sounds like she's young. And I'm wondering if that's trauma or there's just like some voice shit. Her voice sounds weird. I was introduced to a lot of things, you know, that I wasn't used to being around. It was, a lot of it was fun and a lot of it, you know, it was hard. some parts of it was hard. But it was very different from the life that I was used to live in. Well, when you get to New York, you start to dance at Sin City in the Bronx.
Starting point is 02:41:01 Right. Okay, so you're dancing, but you're involved with Max. Now, when you say he introduced you to a bunch of new things, what do you mean? Like drugs or something else? Well, yes, he introduced me to ecstasy. Like, I never took ecstasy before. Then he introduced me to like a whole lifestyle of like just crazy sex, like a sexual lifestyle. That was just, I don't know, it was just unconventional, I may say.
Starting point is 02:41:41 One might say. Okay. What was the most unconventional thing that? I mean, it was, you know, it was like sex with, you know, people that we didn't know. um like by the way and this one i think this is a real story again i don't know how important these stories are but these days i guess you know um and and in all transparency uh gina conway i got offered this interview three times before whack so whack also offered to bring her to my platform but i got offered it three times and i i am going to lie i love
Starting point is 02:42:22 lost interest the moment I heard that she was looking for a paycheck. I'm going to be honest with you. With all due respect to you, I could interview Max B for free. Why the fuck do I need to interview you, the person who is an ancillary person to the story of Max B and have to pay you? So I wasn't, I lost interest. So someone had pitched to me, they were like, hey, whatever, whatever. And I say, hey, I'll get on the phone. I'll listen to it.
Starting point is 02:42:48 and they were like, oh yeah, you know, she wants to get paid. And I'm like, okay, I'm good. Orgies, you know, like more than one sex. I want to say like Menad de Trois, where, you know, females we didn't know. I didn't know. Maybe he knew him. I didn't know who they were. I guess like random, random types of sex that, you know, sex with different people.
Starting point is 02:43:18 Yeah, she's trying to explain in a way that Max B was supposedly pimping her. And I want to say probably a prostitution. He introduced me to that. Meaning that you were prostituting? I wouldn't say like, I wouldn't say I wasn't prostituting, but he had, like, I wasn't doing it on a regular, but he did like, He had set, he sold me to two people before. You know, it wasn't like something that I did on my own or anything like that. So, you know, I did it.
Starting point is 02:44:06 You know, he set it up and I did it. And it happened like two times and that's, that's, that's, that it is prostitution technically. And it like, you know, it bothers me a lot, you know, thinking about it. I'm reflecting on it. But yeah, he introduced me to that, which is something that I never normally done and I don't normally do. Well, Max has a stepbrother.
Starting point is 02:44:32 Yes. Named Boo Sims. Yes. Now, leading up to the incident, how many times? Okay, so here you are involved with Max B and him and Jim Jones working on music together. Okay, so here's my thing.
Starting point is 02:44:56 And I'm going to kind of watching how people are, looking at these like, you know, recounts of the situation. And a part of me says it is kind of important to, you know, revisit why Max B went to jail. It's important to give a voice to everybody. But also, I don't know if necessarily we care that much about, even though she's kind of saying she was a victim. No, she's a co-conspirator. She found a trick. She brought up his name to Max.
Starting point is 02:45:36 They came over to plan to rob him. She brings Poo Sims there. Shit goes left. The guy dies. And again, she tells on everybody and she gets rewarded. And, you know what I mean? Again, that sounds like a good story. Like, you know, you could put it on Netflix and some shit or Tubey.
Starting point is 02:45:55 But do we really care to hear all the intricate details? Because right now it's only relevant because Max is hard. I don't know. I don't know. I don't judge. By the way, I don't judge Vlad for putting out this story. Anyway,
Starting point is 02:46:12 yo, Traplor Ross has responded after he's made this elaborate documentary saying NBA young boy has 19 bodies. Okay? Now, let me quickly jump into
Starting point is 02:46:26 what he's been saying. A block of noise seeing young boy rapping about murder and references to a body count that seemed to grow year by year. from at least one alleged body in the mid-2010s when he first started rapping only age 16, to seemingly confessing to having three bodies and subtracting two attempts or losses around 2019, to shockingly claiming at least three times to have a total of seven bodies by 2020.
Starting point is 02:46:52 His kill count would appear to rise to 12 plus a child by 2022. By March 24, he was claiming to be responsible for 15 murders, and apparently he would reach a grand total of 19 bodies by June 2024. Batmarish police are looking into a deadly shooting that claimed a line of a local rapper. When an unknown suspect in a red Chevy Trailblazer. quick enough. They shooting death the local rapper. Baton Rouge police say the local rapper was shot and killed at his home at Lakeside Villa
Starting point is 02:47:17 Apartments on Wellwood Drive after midnight. A deadly shooting of a student walking home from school. New details surrounding a violent crime that happened here, around 715 Saturday night. No police try to get to the bottom of a drive-by shooting in Baton Rouge. Police say someone shot Jason Nixon several times. Hey, look, hanging out in one time to flood the law in the interstate. Today, Baton Rouge police named the two people killed on River Road last night. Two people were killed and two others were sent to a hospital.
Starting point is 02:47:36 We now know the name of the person killed in us shooting in Baton Rouge. Rage. Police say 24-year-old Deaute Veal was shot and killed. Investigators say 23-year-old Tremaine Phillips died. Breaking tonight, one person dead after shooting on Cherwood Common Boulevard. A person shot and killed along North Acadium. 30-year-old Jawan Alisi was shot to death. No, that ain't my work, man. They are looking for information on the shooting death. This man here. Okay. And this isn't some huge secret. In fact, I discussed in my previous video, Young Boy, Real Killer or Fake Gangster, which I made a couple years ago when his body count was still at 12. But the truth is, Young Boy isn't a person pulling the triggers
Starting point is 02:48:09 and committing these murders personally, he openly raps about contracting killers over seven times, never even seeing the face of the people doing the hits, although his 2016 double-attempted murder charges would prove that he's clearly capable of pulling the trigger if it came to it. In efforts to prevent him bailing out on his prior charges, the FBI have openly labelled Youngboy as the known leader of a violent Louisiana gang, and the truth is, he is literally surrounded by shooters at all times, with the number of the most notorious shooters in the South being affiliated with his NBA or never-broken-again record label and his alleged 4K-Tray Street Gang and their allies state-to-state, meaning that wherever young boy goes, he's accompanied by countless crashouts who are ready and willing to shoot and catch bodies
Starting point is 02:48:42 to protect young boy and his multi-million dollar interests. So in this video, I'll answer once and for all. Are all of these murders and murderers, the secret ingredient to young boy's gagster rap empire? Does young boy really need shooters around him at all times to make sure he stays alive and that his rivals die early? Or is he destined to meet the same fate as his biggest rival. Anyway. So this documentary is about an hour and 57 minutes long.
Starting point is 02:49:04 By the way, Trappler Ross, there's a great job of compile information. And I still believe that for the most part, unless he's changed this out. He's going on public information. He's not saying, hey, I have confirmed this with the police or I have a source that no one could verify. He is basically regurgitating, but putting it in a nice package what is out there openly.
Starting point is 02:49:28 By the way, same thing I did in the Warren Shirek when people thought I had like privy to information. No, I knew how to Google. So I guess the difference here, is, you know, maybe I didn't do documentary style stuff, so I did like news based type stuff. So if someone got shot at or someone died, I would just do the video based on that. Trapp lore, he's getting in like a lot of flak because here's the thing. It's one thing to say, oh, let's cover this one incident.
Starting point is 02:50:02 It's another thing to drive a narrative that, hey, there's 19 murders connected to a guy. Right. So anyway, he's been getting a lot of backlash. And through his backlash, he's actually responded. And this is what he said. So if I get the video, he has said, he explained it. I'll tell you what he is. Okay.
Starting point is 02:50:43 I'm actually hot under the collar over this one, to be honest, to be honest with you guys, okay? Because I do feel like I'm getting all sorts of comments people talking about you, the feds. you're the cops take this shit down take it down don't do this but it's like you want to have it both ways I told you in the last video that I did about this on this channel everybody was up in arms when King Von said to young boy you got cap in your wraps a lot of people said nah young boy the realist bro he ain't capping in those raps them raps about having all those bodies
Starting point is 02:51:16 12 bodies and one child dead stop the violence what I fucking said go and tell them that I'm lying I got 19 bodies He said it. He'd been saying for years, for three years now, scratch that. For three years he's been saying he's got 12 bodies. For one year he's been saying he's got 19 bodies. He'd been saying he got seven bodies for five years straight. He was going neck and neck for bodies with King Von. I don't need to show you all the lyrics once again.
Starting point is 02:51:45 But look, young boy has said a bunch of times that he's got bodies. How am I so in the wrong? this is one of the most famous and relevant rappers in the entire game, in the entire world right now, jumping on songs talking about he's got 19 bodies. I feel like I'm well within my rights as a fan, as a hip-hopologist, as a, you know, historian of the game of drill music, because that's what I do, journalist in drill music to discover and decipher what these lyrics are all about, right?
Starting point is 02:52:20 I'm a one-man genius.com. He told me he had 19 bodies. I said, let me look into it. And I found 19 bodies. Okay, it is what it is, but I'm going to confront some of this criticism head on. Comment on this video, all right, that warmed my heart, and I pinned it. I pinned this comment before I even dropped the documentary because I knew I was going to spin on you fools. Young boy, I have 19 bodies.
Starting point is 02:52:42 Ross, I believe him. The comments, damn, Ross is the feds. This comment sums it up perfectly. Okay. Now, this is an interesting thing to break down. I like Trapler Ross. I believe, by his own admission, I think a lot of things I've done in hip-hop and media and commentary
Starting point is 02:53:09 has probably inspired some of what he's done. Here's where I see it. I agree with him on rappers being hypocritical, right? A rapper will say, yo, seven murders in my hometowns, tell affairs I did that. Right? Now, when you go make a video about it and actually spell it out,
Starting point is 02:53:36 you're the fence, not the rapper who said it. I completely understand where he's saying rappers will say something and even if you think they're just saying it on face value or they're being facetious, they will say in a way where
Starting point is 02:53:53 they're standing on whatever but as soon as you mention it, it's Fed work. Now, there's a few things.
Starting point is 02:54:08 Hip-hop is a culture and most of black cultures based on criminality. For example, the reality is that snitching is a street thing, not a black thing, a street thing.
Starting point is 02:54:22 Now, granted, you know, tattletail and, you know, no one likes someone who, like, like, likes to tell, like, oh, hey, Mommy, Johnny just, blah, blah, blah, I get that.
Starting point is 02:54:35 But, like, Law and order is universal. The idea of snitching is a concept that's usually based on you telling on somebody you did the crime with. It's rooted in the streets. It's not something that's completely applicable to civilians or people not in the streets. Yet black culture, and I've always said this, you know, and you know, with all due respect to Meek Mill and everybody, I remember when Meekville told me, yo, don't post that, that, um, six, nine shit because he's a rat. And I said, if he's a rat, I don't do crime.
Starting point is 02:55:14 What the fuck that got to do with me? And if y'all are the street dudes and y'all feel like he is ratted on the streets, why does the civilians have to take up for it? What am I saying? Black culture has kind of made it where some of these street codes and rules, everybody has to, like, adhere to it. right like you're supposed to protect the criminal sounds crazy right yeah you're you you shouldn't do fad shit like for example i don't do crime but i shouldn't do fair shit because i'm making the criminals go to jail well i don't do crime so why am i keeping them out of jail but that's the
Starting point is 02:55:56 problem with how people you know have this it's really hypocritical So when he says the artists say they have whatever and he then does the investigation or he loosely finds some shit to connect to it, they call him the feds. Yeah, they're going to call you the feds because they feel like you are outlining an investigation. Even though the rapper already outlined the confession, they feel you're doing the legwork. Again, it's stupid hip-hop and slightly black culture because not all black cultures is dumb. But I agree with Trapolo Ross with what are you saying with that? Now, this is the only silver lining, I would say.
Starting point is 02:56:54 I think Trapolo Ross, despite rappers saying whatever they say and the hypocrisy of the fans. and this is where even though even if I call out trap lore for this, I got to call out fans for this. The simple reality of this most times, these rappers aren't speak in reality. They don't have 19 bodies. They didn't kill 19 people.
Starting point is 02:57:20 But they say that to create an image of this ultimate gangster and warrior and villain and goon that allows the impressionable mind to listen to their music more, to buy into the image, to buy merch, tickets, CDs,
Starting point is 02:57:44 stream their songs. They utilize the image of being a killer to help convince... That's what I was telling you. The problem with Atlanta is that Atlanta got exposed. We don't believe it. them no more. When fans believe this shit, it's not
Starting point is 02:58:05 about if it's all the way true. Just believe in street rap is the quintessential part of the street rap working. So, with all that being said, it goes back to what I'm saying. Fans want it both ways. They want, if
Starting point is 02:58:27 you talk about what the rapper said, you're snitching, and they want to believe in this stuff and if you debunk it you hate it. So you're caught between a rock and a hard place and this is where I don't have a problem with what Traplow Ross does because
Starting point is 02:58:45 I love to say when niggas is stupid they deserve to be fooled. If y'all are the people who are saying man nah I know young boy got 19 bodies but bro like don't
Starting point is 02:59:01 don't air it out. You're fucking stupid. Now, if you're the person that says, yo, I love young boy, I know he ain't killed 19 people. But that's the image and I fuck with the image, fuck it, we 4K, K, Tray. And your belief fall for that,
Starting point is 02:59:19 you say, yo, yo, why are you making a documentary making it hot for him? Just like, he didn't kill 19 people. He didn't do it. You're bringing unnecessary, because I ain't going on. A documentary like this
Starting point is 02:59:31 is a gift and a curse. Some fans are going to be like, yeah, ain't nobody got no 19 people. 18 bodies. Why be the biggest crashout? Yo, there's going to be some investigating body. FBI, ATF, DEA, local authorities that said, what? There's a famous guy running around with 19 bodies that we haven't at least gotten a murder charge on or a murder for higher charge on.
Starting point is 03:00:02 Yeah. It's damned if you do, damn if you don't. So when I look at this, you know, respectfully, I can understand what Traplow Ross does, but I think fans are also confused. Y'all have made hip-hop culture co-sounding criminality. This is what I would ask to young boy fans. And everybody knows, you know, I love Young Boy. But, like, I would you ask of any rapper's fans?
Starting point is 03:00:33 Do you believe that he has those bodies, or you think he's lying? If you think he's telling the truth, then we go down a different route. If you think he's lying, then I agree with you. Traplow Ross is now bringing federal police investigation attention on a man that has and does what he's even making the narrative that he's done. Now, if he does have 19, the next question got to be, before we get to Traplow Ross, why is he admitting it? Before we question Trappler Ross, why are you admitting it? Why are you admitting it? That's a fact.
Starting point is 03:01:12 So we got to pick, and this is where, you know, fans always fail the logic test because a fan is exactly what the word says. A fan is a person that's a fanatic of an individual, an idea, or some type of entity. So oftentimes they like the ability to discern and to think logically. With all due respect, when it comes to Lil Durk, Little Durk literally manifested the fence. He manifested the fes. He literally tell you the fays was coming. He literally said the fair's going to have to pick him up that only the fares could stop him. He literally said the day after my brother died, next day there was down to. He literally told us this. So if someone made a documentary basically detailing and putting some context to what Schmerk was saying are
Starting point is 03:02:21 Are they the feds? Are they wrong? Or was Smirk line? His thing, I've never heard of fan base say, nah, yo, he's just actually lying. Like, he's not like that. He don't do them. He didn't kill nobody. They believe it because the mere fact that they're facts, fans, they're going to believe the things that make their favorite guy look like bigger than life.
Starting point is 03:02:50 So they won't blame Smirk to say smirk. Why the hell if you really are getting people killed? You're rapping about it. Why would you rap about it? they don't do that they don't think he's a liar neither you know what they say you know traplo ross man why are you bringing the feds over here wait wait so the confession on the records wasn't enough to bring the feds all the other like you know you know trail of penis that you're leaving behind in your wake of your wake of destruction that wasn't
Starting point is 03:03:22 enough but it's because of a documentary so yeah you know i got a i seem to agree with Traplow. Now, again, the only way I don't agree with Traplow Ross is if we're in the mindset of, bro, young boys is chatting. Young boy don't got on 19 bodies. What fuck is you talking about? You're now lying on him. You're bringing unnecessary attention. But if young boys admit to 19 bodies and he does an inner, he does his thing and he's showing 19 bodies,
Starting point is 03:03:57 the pub, he doesn't have more resources than the cops. I would take anything that Traplore is doing equally to Young Boy saying it in terms of how much you need to believe it or not and that's if you believe Young Boy Don't do this But it's like You want to have it both ways
Starting point is 03:04:19 I told you in the last video that I did about this on this channel Everybody was up in arms When King Von said to Young Boy You got cap in your wraps A lot of people said No young boy the realist bro, he ain't capping in those rap's them raps about having all those bodies 12 bodies and one child dead stop the violence what i fucking said go and tell them that i'm lying i got 19 like chat i'm gonna be honest with you
Starting point is 03:04:44 and y'all gonna lie to y'allself like this idea like these days with drill music these rappers boast serial killer amount of murders that they're claiming and that gets people more more um attracted. When you look at little Jeff, he's saying he had, was it, seven or 11 bodies and people like, oh my God, we like him more because he was actually a killer of killers. When we talk about King Vaughn, people brag about, yo, he got seven bodies. Like, y'all like hearing these guys actually have like this unusual high body count. And then when someone debunks it, they're hating. And if someone plays into it and says,
Starting point is 03:05:43 well, these could be the people he's talking about. They're being the feds. No. Not going for you, y'all. I'm not going for it. Okay. What else, y'all? What else?
Starting point is 03:06:00 We got to do a daytime stream, man. I feel like I'm streaming too late. It's almost 6 o'clock here. All right, all right. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see, let's see. Yeah, I apologize.
Starting point is 03:06:54 I know. Yeah, you guys sleep as cruised. Hey, by the way, since we're going to Sunday, I'm going to do an early stream today, you know, for the Sunday stream. I just got to schedule it around football. So, yeah, got to let me know. Should I stream at 7 p.m., which is right after the 1 o'clock, we're talking East Coast time, 1 o'clock and 4 o'clock games are done?
Starting point is 03:07:18 I don't want to stream. I could stream at four, but I'm competing with all the four o'clock games. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. Oh, all right. Let me try to do this topic real quick,
Starting point is 03:07:37 and I might call it after this. This is going to get us to six o'clock. All right. So, chat, you know what I've been interested in, and I want to keep up with this. So Candice Owens, I know this is outside of hip-hop chat, and I want to apologize, right? But Candice Owens,
Starting point is 03:07:51 Candice Owens, like, I've interviewed. I don't know if you guys are watching off the record. I interviewed her. I really think she's intellectual. I think she's smart. I think she's fearless. I think she's bold.
Starting point is 03:08:06 But a lot of people are accusing her of going off the deep end these days, chat. Essentially, what's happening is that remember the guy Charlie Kirk. So Charlie Kirk, who got shot and killed while he was doing a speech at a university, what ended up happening is that, you know, people are, like, really skeptical that his death was due to some random hater. They're like, nah, man, they ain't just some random hater. Like, there's much more going on here. People have talked about his likeer, you know, his, you know, maybe defecting from Israel. Some people feel like he was getting too powerful. And I've gotten to find out that supposedly this guy was a huge deal. He had this organization called
Starting point is 03:08:50 Turning Point USA. He was a huge deal just off the fact that he was getting out there to get a lot of these young conservative people to register the vote people think that he helped trump get elected and i think when trump even shouted people out right like you know um no trump um wins election let me see if i can find that speech he even shouted out aida ross but i think he even shouted out um he shouted out this guy right let me see he's projected the winner Let's say we can find it. He shot, Elon. Frankly, this was, I believe,
Starting point is 03:09:36 we have a thousand help. But it's a political victory that is going to be just that. Right for you, for you, safe and prosperous. Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. That's it. I just find the show.
Starting point is 03:09:51 We are now winning in Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, and Alaska, which would. I'm trying to figure Donald Trump speech Aidan Rossi. Shout out I didn't. I definitely know he did. Oh, maybe it was
Starting point is 03:10:16 Nobody deserves this more than him and nobody deserves him. He keeps going forward. They deserve it as a family. This is Carmelade. The mighty and powerful Joe Rogan. Thank you. Yeah, this shot Joe Rogan. Let me see.
Starting point is 03:10:29 But he definitely election speech Charlie Kirk shoutout Anyway, I don't want to get Like too much into it But you know He He shouted out
Starting point is 03:10:44 Charlie Kirk And the whole Republican Party Was really keen on saying That this one guy in this organization Called Turnipoint USA Was really instrumental In getting Trump elected Now what happened is that he got killed
Starting point is 03:10:56 And after he got killed Candace Owens who was a good friend of his Candace Owens is not taken It says You know he just got killed by him She's like, yo, listen, man, some of this shit don't make sense. Why did this? Why did the blood look like this?
Starting point is 03:11:09 Why did the bullet go through? Why did that? Why did y'all got to see it's too quick? And she's been kind of leading to conspiracy theorists about theories about why he got killed, including even to damn near almost blaming the organization that he owned for setting him up. She's going insanely viral. Chat. Right now we're on a live stream.
Starting point is 03:11:29 We have about like 4,000 people on East Channel watching this. When she goes live these days and she goes live, I think five days a week, she'll have hundreds of thousands of people. That's not a regular numbers. That is like some inflated number count. She'll have 200,000, 300,000 people watching her. And it's her diving into these conspiracy theories with TP USA, which is turning point USA. Now, let me see if I could. I wish there was a super cut of it.
Starting point is 03:12:11 This was she streamed two months ago. She said something isn't right. Well, it's going to be a heck of a Tuesday for us, guys. Where should we begin? I'll tell you this. Something is not right. Something is not right. And I am going to need you.
Starting point is 03:12:25 Whoever is it's listening to this podcast right now. Now, let me tell you, and if you're ever in media, there's very different stages of, of like, you know, clouting up, right? And I love Candace. but Candace, she's I was shocked that Alex Jones when the financials
Starting point is 03:12:47 and everything was undetermined, it showed that his company made $195 million for a year. And you get to realize, damn, how does this motherfucker
Starting point is 03:12:56 got this audience? Well, you know, Alex Jones, and I want to belittle nothing he's done. He's a great entertainer and broadcaster or whatever. When you sell fear,
Starting point is 03:13:06 when you sell conspiracy theories, when you say, oh, the world is about to end, like, He used to sell on his site these, oh, these kits of if the electricity had cut off or if we're off the grid and he would sell these things. And because of the rhetoric he had, people would buy them. So essentially, what am I saying?
Starting point is 03:13:30 Alex Jones realized when you sell fear, people spend money. When you ask questions and sell theories that the big bad government is lined, to us or yo they're they killed one of their own or whatever the case is you get eyeballs you get attention so can't soans has been getting and look at some of these views she streamed this 5.8 million views she's been leaning into charlie kurt's death was not the solely the byproducts of some guy that didn't like his rhetoric and killed him this was possibly another government that killed him or possibly his own organization that killed him after they were trying to have a coup and basically take over the organization. By the way, the organization is really popular.
Starting point is 03:14:23 The organization has never said that Charlie Kirk's wife, Erica Kirk's never said that. She's kind of a lone wolf, but she has some type of, you know, credence because she was his friend and she claimed she has had conversations with him leading up to his death that made her skeptical about how his death went down. She's been talking about it ever since with a lot of views. To wake up because I am telling you this is not a battle between left and right. We all thought that at some point. We believed that. You're my enemy. You're my enemy. It is not a battle between Russia, Ukraine. I don't care what your political issue of the day is. What's happening right now in the world and what just happened to my friend, Charlie Kirk, is a battle of sheer evil versus goodness.
Starting point is 03:15:08 There we go. What do I have for you guys say, okay, well, first and foremost, the indict. against Tyler Robinson was just really okay so she's been leaning into this now recently it's came to to a head where the she's damn there almost accusing Charlie Kirk's wife of being a part of a plot to kill him and cover it up and take power from him and run this organization that recently the people who are now running turning point USA they have responded to Charlie Kurt, they've responded to Candace Owens. Here they are,
Starting point is 03:15:48 here they are broadcasting from Charlie Kurt's own YouTube, which is where his show used to come from. Segment at the top of this hour to say something important, something very important. For the past two and a half months, there is a topic that has flooded our freedom inbox. It has been nonstop on social media, but which we have almost totally avoided on this show.
Starting point is 03:16:08 You probably already know what I'm talking about, which shows just how ubiquitous it has been. Ever since Charlie's murder, Candice Owens has leveled a flood of allegations against people at Turning Point USA, people at Turning Point Action, and people who work for this show. She's made them against some of Charlie's closest friends
Starting point is 03:16:25 and against some of his most dedicated employees. She suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered, was happy that he died, and stayed silent because he was told he would be the next Charlie. She suggested Michael is not his real name.
Starting point is 03:16:39 It is. I have seen his birth certificate myself. She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife, who works at Turning Point, helped plan the campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which she didn't, by the way, she doesn't work on campus events. Candice has suggested the Utah Valley University event was unusual, and its details suggested a, quote, inside job. She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed Erica Kirk around the country,
Starting point is 03:17:00 and that Turning Point has lied about this happening. She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died. She has suggested Charlie's security team. team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure that he died. Wow. She has raised suspicions about the head of our technical team because he took an SD card out of a camera. She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Boyer, who we just had on the show, sexually abuses male interns. She has suggested that TPUSA faith affiliated pastors like theologian, Frank Turrick, who will have on in a moment, and Pastor Rob McCoy are
Starting point is 03:17:31 part of a military, quote, infiltration of turning point, either because they are veterans or because they have family members who are. Even if not everyone, everyone has been named specifically though, Candace has effectively tarred everyone here with complicity in Charlie's death by repeatedly saying he was, quote, betrayed by, quote, everyone. She has said Charlie's murder, quote, had to be approved by Charlie's friends and then suggested those friends might have her murdered too for, quote, knowing the truth. She has made claims of financial impropriety and fraud at Turning Point adding up into the millions of dollars, which again is not true. Charlie made sure the organization was audited by a third
Starting point is 03:18:07 party every year. He personally reviewed and he signed off on every expense report and literally every single bill paid by the organization down to a single United States dollar. We have never missed a 9-90 deadline. Candace has made other stranger allegations involving French paratroopers in maroon shirts, Egyptian Air Force planes flying out of Provo, Utah, and potential underground assassins traveling through unseen tunnels. At this, at one point in early November, she started wildly throwing suspicion on members of Utah Valley's soccer team for wearing hood I could go on. There is always something new coming up and none of it ever pans out because from the start there has been nothing there. The attacks and allegations from Candace are either lies or they are innuendos thrown around with a total reckless disregard for the truth
Starting point is 03:18:52 so that Candice can manipulate and string along an audience of people who don't realize they are being played. Instead of being able to grieve properly after one of the most heinous murders in American history, a murder many of us had to witness, my friends have had to endure harassment from people who, have gotten whipped up by what Candace is saying. In fact, I would say we have suffered more harassment from these people than we have from Antifa supporters who overtly celebrate Charlie's murder. And just like a lot of those Antifa members, many of these people take this delight in how gross and unpleasant they can be.
Starting point is 03:19:24 What our friends have had to endure is not funny and it's not insignificant. It is evil. I have seen it. For months, we have received hundreds, thousands, I suspect, emails and calls asking us to respond. people have wanted us to invite Candace on the show. But for a long time, our approach was to say nothing. We did that for several reasons. First, we thought that her prevarications were so absurd
Starting point is 03:19:47 that nobody would believe them. We shouldn't have to answer questions about secret tunnels or Egyptian Air Force planes. That sort of thing is just, it's beneath contempt to respond to. The second reason we've said so little, though, is because there's a good rule of thumb, which Charlie followed. Do not feed the trolls. Focus on the mission.
Starting point is 03:20:03 Reviving America, uplifting young people, making heaven crows okay so they have the whole response to canis owens then they randomly put out a tweet saying that they're going to address all this stuff and i guess the bigger story if you're saying you don't know what's going on here is that canis owens is now like the number one media person in i want to say politics like she's getting the most amount of views because she's He's leaning into, yo, someone from either the government or someone in the organization or working with a foreign government killed Charlie Kirk. And what's happening here is people are looking at it like the party of the Republican
Starting point is 03:20:57 party is not fractured. Here we go by the way. I work in construction and experience the same thing. My coworkers are all in on the Charlie Kirk conspiracies. If the Republicans lose in the midterms, I believe that Candace Owens is wholly responsible. She is one of the biggest podcasts on the right doing everything to go to war with the organization that helped get Trump elected. Turning Point specifically was going out and registering people to vote. Without Charlie, it's in trouble.
Starting point is 03:21:31 Turning Point needs to be able to go out and rally young people and register them to vote. And she's doing everything she can to destroy that. And that is going to, I suppose, it's going to rip out the coffers on the right. There is no organization like Turning Point that exists anywhere else that has the resources and the reach. And without Charlie, I'm not sure that they can make it. But I can tell you this, Candice lighting a Molotov and throwing it to the window is not helping. And it's the most demoralizing thing ever. additionally, all of the fucking cowards on the right who are too scared to say anything about her.
Starting point is 03:22:10 Because she tweets at me talking shit or whatever. And then a bunch of people come and flood our chat, I could give a single flying fuck. You can come and you can burn everything I have to the ground and I will happily live in a van down by the river. I don't care to be number one. I don't need to be number one. What I care about is what is true and what will help this country and what works. And she is a fucking scumbag. Okay?
Starting point is 03:22:33 And she's getting worse every day. And she crossed the line. She continually crosses the line every day. Insinuating the turning point literally killed the guy who made them all rich. And I have to, and I hear this in the streets. And at a certain point, I'm like, holy shit, we're going to lose the midterms. We're going to lose the midterms. Then we're going to lose in 2028.
Starting point is 03:22:55 And it's because she's a piece of shit. Because instead of saying, guys, let's come together and figure out of work. together, she says the stupidest retarded crap, and now everybody's running around divided and broken. For what reason? For literally what reason? Now, guess
Starting point is 03:23:12 what? I'm not on the best of terms with turning point either. In case she didn't... Okay, this is like a big thing, and the last thing I'll play is her... supposedly they've invited her to like this one time only thing to
Starting point is 03:23:31 like, you know, address all the, the, uh, rumors. But she came out. She said, yo, y'all said it to the date of my husband's birthday. So this is her husband, I believe. Right. Guys, happy Monday. I hope you enjoyed the holiday weekend. I know.
Starting point is 03:23:53 For some people that you might not be into politics and everything like that. But, uh, guys, happy Monday. Guys, happy Monday. Husband's birthday. Okay. And then Nick Fuentes is involved in this too. If she's so afraid for her life, why was she at talk? Because she's saying that it's a conspiracy to kill people.
Starting point is 03:24:15 She also feels like there's a bounty on her head. So she says she don't want to travel or do too much. Nick Fuentes jumped in and said, yo, well, no, you're capping. You're just trying to keep the money training going on. You don't want to get confronted about these conspiracy theories that you're spewing about this dude. And you're trying to make it like you can't link up in person to have this. debate. Tucker Carlson's Christmas party in Nashville last night. Why was she at Dollywood on Thanksgiving, the theme park? So allegedly the French government and the Israeli intelligence
Starting point is 03:24:51 have put a hit out on you. They've paid millions of dollars to kill you. But you're walking around a theme park in your town. You're walking around. For those that don't know, Dolly, what is it, Dollywood, Dollyland, it's like Dolly Parton's Disney World. You're walking around Disney World? You're walking around an amusement park in your hometown on the holiday weekend when allegedly everyone's trying to kill you. Then you go to a Christmas party with Tucker Carlson in the same city attended by hundreds of people and people know you're going to be there with Tucker and all the base people in one room.
Starting point is 03:25:29 But you can't go to Turning Point where everybody knows you're going to. going to be. And if anything happened to you, God forbid, they would immediately blame Turning Point. It doesn't even make any sense. What he's saying makes sense. Only, I don't she can imply. Okay, okay. So anyway, it's an interesting thing. Being contacted by a lot of people, people that are telling me at just within 48 hours before Charlie passed away, his top Jewish donors were pulling funding from him, demanding that Charlie take their name off of the building that they had donated to Turning Point. point. I guess I can figure out who that is. How many people could have donated the building.
Starting point is 03:26:10 And then once Charlie was killed, they said, never mind, put it back on the building. Okay. Charlie himself had alluded to a tremendous loss of money coming in and we'll speak about that more. More people are going to come out with information. This is all inevitable. Okay. And I'll also point you in this direction. You guys remember, Bebe recently was on a PR blitz despite the fact that he was, you know, fighting this 96. thousand front war because Israel didn't do nothing. Okay. So why didn't you do Carly Kirk show?
Starting point is 03:26:47 And is that you are live streaming because you want the internet. So now she's saying why she can't do a live stream. To be able to. If you're in this world, you understand it. Like oftentimes when I'm explaining stuff, I'm thinking, does the regular person understand it's understand this? And you won't understand unless you've been tuning into this. But I don't know, this is wildly popular.
Starting point is 03:27:07 This is like very big. It's like the biggest thing, you know, in any type of commentary space. To attend, right? That's the whole purpose and function of live streaming an event is that it invites everybody to be able to attend. So she says she can't travel to Phoenix because her husband's birthdays that day. But people are saying, yo, you probably made millions talking about Charlie Kirk and all the conspiracy theories for the last two months since he died. Why can't you travel here if we're going to have an open discussion you could actually. Whatever question you want, because her thing has been, why is nobody answering these questions I have and other people have?
Starting point is 03:27:46 They're like, we'll answer it. Show up this day. She's like, oh, that's my husband's birthday. I can't show up. But people are like, well, you've made millions of dollars streaming and shit like that. Like, what? Like, you said this is important. Why can't you figure out a way?
Starting point is 03:28:00 When you extend an invitation of live streaming and you don't explicitly say it must be in person, why would I assume that you're going to rescind the offer? if I say that I can appear via live stream. Okay? They never said that. When they made the offer and they were pretending that they were being sincere, they never made in person a point of their demands. They never also said that I had to respond within 24 hours.
Starting point is 03:28:26 That's a hostage situation, okay? There's no way that I could have accommodated all of that. In a million years, 24 hours to respond. How about, hmm, let me see if I can make that work, even if I could have made it work, which I couldn't have, because my husband instantly said, no, you cannot do this Monday. And he runs the household. And he had...
Starting point is 03:28:46 One thing I like about Candace, and maybe she's just like the opposite of like a cautious wife. Like, she's a woman. And yes, she does her podcast and she has a voice and she is strong. But she still full... Yo, she realized she on her husband's program. I don't even know who her husband is. It's his program.
Starting point is 03:29:06 If her husband tell her, yo, that ain't happening. she will tell the world, yo, listen, my husband said it ain't happening. It's his program. And I ain't going to lie. I like women who still listen to niggins. Like these days women, they don't listen to niggis. So when she says my husband, he the boss,
Starting point is 03:29:24 he called the shots, he said it's over. I can't travel on that day. Even though it should be a no-brainer because it's his birthday, you know? And especially if he says if he wants to be with his wife on his birthday, fuck all this other shit. I like that she listens to her husband. As an important thing going on that day,
Starting point is 03:29:42 which involves people that are coming in from overseas. But even if I could have made that work, I would not have within 24 hours have confirmed to them if they had even sent me an email. Because I have kids. I would have had organized things. It would have just taken longer. All right, man.
Starting point is 03:29:56 Y'all got to check that out. I watch it every morning. It's the most riveting thing that I think is going down. Sludes all of them. But, you know, Candice, I'll say this. I love you and everything, full of shit. I think you have realized that
Starting point is 03:30:10 people are interested in the questions that you're posing and people like conspiracy theories. Charlie Kirk was loved by so many, they still can't process and accept the fact that a fucking random hater
Starting point is 03:30:26 just killed him. You know what I mean? Imagine if Tupac, well Tupac fans were like that for a bit. They couldn't just imagine yeah, Pock jumped some Crip and the Crip came back blasting and pock is dead pock fans are saying he's in cuba so i understand dealing with grief and loss and irrational grief and loss or irrational loss that brings grief sometimes you're going to get people that are going to lean into these alternate theories and canisones i think she's cleaning up she's making
Starting point is 03:30:56 a killing it's no surprise why she's like every stream now she has 200 000 people watching is because people want to see her give alternate explanations of why this guy didn't die from a random fucking hater and I think Candace knows that a little bit but I do think you know what I mean sometimes she's one of those people that
Starting point is 03:31:18 she starts believing she started going so deep down a rabbit hole she believes all the shit so again Charlie Kirk got killed by a hater bro that's it ain't no government ain't no cover-up They wish he was here, right?
Starting point is 03:31:35 Because turning point doesn't hit as hard with him. But Candace is definitely, she's exploited a little bit. And I rock with her. Anyway. Last topic. Last topic here is push a tee. We got push-a-tie who's now explaining that disc songs are dead. So for a lot of younger fans, they ain't no push-a-tie for his disc songs.
Starting point is 03:32:05 most infamous is the story of Adidon. Skathen character takedown of his hip-hop's rival at the time, which is Drake. From there, the Virginia rap legend has become synonymous with beef. He would be unafraid of this family who don't hold the same values as him. Wayne, Drake, Kanye, and most recently, Travis Scott. However, nowadays, the same rapper who has had the smoke for anyone in the industry, he's now decidedly burnt out of beefs and this record. Consequently, he claims.
Starting point is 03:32:35 he's done with indulgent in this. Recently push a T spokes of consequence where he shrugged about how disc records don't mean the same how they used this. Back in the day, you could end someone's career with a mean song. Now he argues it's only good for feeding online
Starting point is 03:32:51 discourse. He says it's not ransom anymore. Back in a day to me, I feel like it could be career ending. Now it's not. It doesn't hold much weight. You still get another shot at it, it seems. Wow. Push a T.
Starting point is 03:33:06 And before I go and tell anything else, you know, I think push a T's saying that. Push a T, come on, bro. You one of them, niggas that we only talk about when you do do a diss song. Let's keep it to me. Like, your album rollout, the best part about it was when you started this
Starting point is 03:33:20 and Travis Scott. Because we didn't know you had an issue with Travis Scott. We didn't know that. Okay. Story of added on, we talked about you. Yeah, you did drop Daytona, which was a dope album. Ken. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:33:40 Daytona, yeah. I was like, did I trip up? No, no, they talk. No bad album. But nobody was talking about that shit. People were talking about you this and Drake. I get the sentiment of you saying that back in the day, a diss song would end somebody.
Starting point is 03:33:56 But I think this is where people like you lack reality. If Kendrick thought foolishly that not like us would end Drake's career, he's an idiot. But I don't think he thought that. there's again when we're talking about this songs historically it's never been to end someone's career is usually to adjust the higher key of who's better okay this guy defeated you in a rap battle right
Starting point is 03:34:35 but both artists are already doing some of the same things you're both putting out hot songs in center push your tea is like more of a lyricist and an emcee a diss song to drake yeah even if people think you got the better of him in a battle, they're not going to stop listening to Drake. You have to realize, like, when people think about diss songs and shit like that and beef, the only place where we could say, like, you know, it works so effectively, we would think that is what Pushat He's saying.
Starting point is 03:35:05 It was career end is the Jaru stuff. And I think that was not just one diss song. That was a concerted effort to make Jaru look like he was a lame-ass nigger, and that that's not what people were listened to and that he was kind of, you know, and has been. So push a T and I was trying to say that modern disc tracks don't work anymore. I'm like, no, it does. You're just shocked that the people that you diss and Kendrick diss are still number one
Starting point is 03:35:36 because you can't erase someone's history with a diss song. Now he says, I've been through that chapter and I'm over it. I'm somewhere right now where I don't want to even make music with people. Nevertheless, have anybody else in music be my focus. while we're there right now with the clips is so next level to me he says i i feel taste levels above everything else even being caught up in the world of it i don't even like the world of people wait i don't even i don't even i don't like even the world of people of the back and forth i don't even see eye to eye with you there's probably things i don't want to what push the team finds
Starting point is 03:36:20 uh this kind of useless he said there's no stakes or conflict more over there's no catharsis by the way I want to say that's cap pushy pushytee let me tell you this and let me tell kentrick this you see the problem with both y'all niggas y'all niggas is one chook ponies let me tell you this if you wanted to get rid of drink
Starting point is 03:36:39 I'm gonna give you out of the fucking blueprint and get rid of drink the diss song is part of it because the disc song is like you know I got a pool and and I don't know it's the analogy that I can't know my mind if there's like algae growing there or whatever is because
Starting point is 03:36:55 of the chemistry within the pool, the photosynthesis with the light and everything, you see it get green over time, right? To cure that, you have to what they call shock it. And that's what a diss song is. You hit the industry, the fans, you hit everybody with a shock to say,
Starting point is 03:37:17 I'm here and I'm that guy. The problem with you diss song, niggas, is that you have nothing beyond the diss song. How are you going to take Drake's spot, but you don't want to talk to the women? How are you going to take Drake's spot, but all you want to make is lyrical, miracle music? How do you want to get rid of something that you're not replacing? Imagine if Apple said, we're going to go get rid of all the next-tail chirp phones, but we're going to make a device that don't make calls.
Starting point is 03:37:45 That would be stupid. So when these guys are talking about ending careers, they're neglecting one big fact. Even if we gave y'all the victory in a rap battle, yes, there's stakes. The problem is y'all can't live up to the stakes beyond a rap battle. You're only good with doing y'all in the mirror doing URL battles with yourself. I'm trying to see if you could get clever words to this somebody. You guys don't fulfill the mix.
Starting point is 03:38:09 Let me tell you this. The only way to get rid of Drake is to have a super drink. The guy who the females really love, they're really in tune with talks to every feelings that Drake may have omitted. They're there with them. You guys don't do that. You guys are just envious and that's the problem. the niggas will be saying this now
Starting point is 03:38:25 they're envious you rapped about a song you wrapped about oh you're hiding a child you thought that was going to kill his career do you think that the majority of fans of Drake give a fuck he has a kid who all respect to Adonis and all respects his Drake's family no guys are fucking haters
Starting point is 03:38:43 you can't there is stakes to a rap battle to this day but you got to be able to provide and produce and replace what you're trying to kill. The problem, the reason why Drake is number one now, they're number one again, because Kendrick, I don't know,
Starting point is 03:39:01 he never stated that I'm trying to kill your career because he says he likes him, supposedly, even though he's the biggest hater. For you to kill Drake, you've got to have something ready to replace the regime with. You don't destroy the government and then have chaos and then try to instill a new government.
Starting point is 03:39:19 If you're trying to do a coup, you come in with the government already. So when the old one goes out, the new ones in The problem is You guys don't want the pressure that Drake has had to endure for A decade plus To get rid of Drake Are you going to be here every year giving us four or five slaps
Starting point is 03:39:37 Doing features helping the culture Bringing new sounds in Being ever present I know people take this shit for granted But you can't get rid of You know what's funny because the sick I understand that theory because I be hearing for the last 15 years. That's how long I've been on, motherfuckers. I've been hearing people saying that
Starting point is 03:39:57 they wanted to replace me. Remember when Meat Mill thought that there could be replacement for me, you can't replace me if you can't get people to do with everything I do. Or you're going to replace me with a cool dude who don't update you with all the numbers, give the breakdowns that I give down, I give out, do the topics I do give. No, you have to replace someone with an equivalent. So again, push a T is from a different era Where he's looking at the disc song as the ultimate Even then, we've never seen a disc song erase somebody Did E3 erase JZ? No, it made him stronger
Starting point is 03:40:33 And my point is this, the people who say this They're one-trick ponies Because beyond a disc song, even if we give you the win, The conversation that's going to be had is push a T. Why don't you make some hits? Because people like hit songs. Why don't you make this type of music? Because people like that too.
Starting point is 03:40:56 If you want to get rid of somebody, at least pick up what they were doing before and do more. Push your tea right now is Gryftin because he gave his best shot. Kendra gave his best shot. Drake's still number one. Won't be number one.
Starting point is 03:41:21 Until you niggas. You know, everything. I always said about the irony with Kendrick Lamar. The things he complained. that he hated with Drake is what made Drake that guy. I hate the bitches you fuck, the bitches you did this. Kendrick, it takes that also to be the guy. You have to be that open and vulnerable with your relationship.
Starting point is 03:41:46 We don't know nothing about you and your shorthy, Whitney. The overexposure where he's at every court side game for the majority of the time. He's doing this, he's doing that. it takes more than music to be Drake but you claim you hate it so why would you want to if you're not down I always said never hate a nigga that got more than you if you ain't work harder than him or you ain't down to do the same shit that he did to get what he got remember let me say one more time never hate on a nigga that got
Starting point is 03:42:20 something more than you if you ain't work as hard as him for it and you ain't down to do all the things he did to get it Drake made R&B. Drake made this type of music. Operated like this. If you're not down to do all that, just shut it. And that's the problem.
Starting point is 03:42:45 Push-a-T's realizing, because Push-a-T was secretly rooting for Kendrick. Oh, Kendrick's going to take care of the job. I started it. He's going to finish it. Ha-ha-ha. Drake's still number one. Your efforts look really weak.
Starting point is 03:43:04 I'm giving you out of blueprint now. Drake is, yo, ain't a, somebody big in the program. You can get rid of Drake. Just make sure you have a full replacement. If not, people are always going to revert to what they know and the diversity he has. All right. Chat, that's my time tonight. I'm out of here, four hours. I love you guys. I will see you tomorrow. I think tomorrow, tune in for that one. I know I've been delaying it, but really, I don't give a fuck about this, but I guess y'all do. And if I got to drop 50, I will. Y'all know what I'm talking about. Tune in tomorrow. Daytime stream, I'll light it up.
Starting point is 03:43:40 But realistically, I don't give too fucks to do it. And I realized, you know, I was a little salty, not salty, but like I felt the way I'm like, this is the only viral thing I've seen on their podcast since. It's the, like, social-wise, they posted, oh, we were talking about act? It's the biggest thing. So I'm like, am I helping these things? Whatever, fuck it. Like, you know, big act ain't a punk.
Starting point is 03:44:04 So we'll get at it tomorrow. I love y'all. I'll see you on tomorrow. Daytime stream, just tune in early.

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