Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - Aprender a poner límites (sin intentar cambiar a los demás)

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

En este nuevo episodio de Conversaciones abordamos un tema de enorme importancia, la familia, las relaciones y el sufrimiento que aparece cuando alguien a quien amamos se aísla, se pierde o entra en ...dinámicas que generan dolor.A lo largo de este encuentro reflexionamos sobre cuestiones que nos afectan: Cómo acompañar a un ser querido sin invadirle, cómo poner límites sin dejar de amar, y cómo comprender que, detrás de muchas conductas que nos hieren, con frecuencia hay miedo, sufrimiento y una profunda desconexión.En esta conversación exploramos una distinción esencial:  una cosa es ver a una persona como tóxica, y otra muy distinta es comprender que puede haber toxicidad en su manera de actuar. Cuando aprendemos a distinguir, se abre la posibilidad de la corrección, de la firmeza y también de la compasión.Ojalá esta conversación no solo te invite a pensar, sino también a mirar con más profundidad aquello que estás viviendo, ya sea en tu familia, en tu pareja o en una relación importante para ti.Déjame saber en comentarios qué reflexión te ha resonado más.Si esta conversación puede ayudar a alguien cercano a ti,  te invito a compartirlo.🌿 Descarga gratis 3 meditaciones transformadoras y regálate tiempo de calma, cuidado y presencia¡Suscríbete!MÁS INFORMACIÓN Y RECURSOS ÚTILES: 📖 Libros🎧 Accede a mi audionewsletter gratis🎟️⁠ Entradas a la nueva conferencia 2026PÁGINA WEB Y REDES SOCIALES OFICIALES:🌐⁠⁠Página Web⁠⁠📷⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠▶️⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠📲⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💼LinkedIn𝕏 Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You'll go to give a We'll go a because what I'm to say has the capacity to
Starting point is 00:00:06 reventing much of our system of creancies. That toxicity can can rastraar also,
Starting point is 00:00:14 is that I have to care me to put a limit. Me can't,
Starting point is 00:00:20 I think reflections about some of the things that have obtained?
Starting point is 00:00:24 No, no. No. And I think you don't you're to
Starting point is 00:00:27 get to have been. Well, tell me, because. To the question that now profundize, not is par to the person toxic
Starting point is 00:00:36 but to the toxicity of the person. From the point of view that is absurd. We have evidence
Starting point is 00:00:46 direct that that that's real. Dear friends, well, welcome to this new episode
Starting point is 00:00:58 of conversations and to to try of an theme of exceptional importance
Starting point is 00:01:04 and today relations family matrimonio and have been dear
Starting point is 00:01:12 people of different places of and we we have
Starting point is 00:01:16 the fortune to count to also an Eric
Starting point is 00:01:20 Eric has five years and he and he
Starting point is 00:01:23 and he's to courses in those that the theme of the of the cresimient personal and, for that is a person more than authorised to be here
Starting point is 00:01:41 between adults, because, sure that all, starting for me, we can learn much of him. Well, then, the tone,
Starting point is 00:01:48 it's going to a tone of a conversation, where the reality, the response were in
Starting point is 00:01:56 the conversation. We're going to a series of questions that are relevant in our life and we're going to to play with what you're going to to find something that
Starting point is 00:02:08 us help not simply to know, but know to do, to superar those limits that many times we put into, without, of course, to that we're going to, to,
Starting point is 00:02:18 to open to, to open to a space of new possibilities and opportunities in our life. Benveni- who want to do the first
Starting point is 00:02:26 question about a topic that he important, that he that's that's a well,
Starting point is 00:02:32 not only interesting, but relevant. Well, if you want, Mario, for
Starting point is 00:02:38 favor, today is a doctor. I'm a doctorate. I'm a companyer of
Starting point is 00:02:43 and the other we're going, to what we're the family, the relations, that are
Starting point is 00:02:48 those great indicators of the quality and of the people.
Starting point is 00:02:52 What I want here in the group is I'm I'm conscientious that in the family is where it's
Starting point is 00:03:00 where you're amplification the signals. It's to have problems with someone that's by the
Starting point is 00:03:05 way, but in the family is where we're going amplification when you don't you have been
Starting point is 00:03:12 you know, you know, you know, that's what more really. So, when you have
Starting point is 00:03:17 a relation with a person to you want to and you and you and you see that
Starting point is 00:03:22 you're in a pozo, what you do, what you do? accept the situation you intend to help you're doing
Starting point is 00:03:30 but you'll see it's all possible to help you see that's that's the question well this is a this is a question
Starting point is 00:03:40 that I think that has a important that we're where we're we're seeing we're we're
Starting point is 00:03:46 how in many there's there a profound disorientation and an enormous desanimo
Starting point is 00:03:52 so we're going to we're to look a question a question that not is easy and that logically who experimented this situation
Starting point is 00:04:02 suffer enormously because no know how to help. So, we're going to start to the language, not because the language not because the language we're going to point to where is the solution.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So, not the experience of the caminor in the the luna, it's the deado that that the luna to be that Without necessity to enter in things in those that you can't
Starting point is 00:04:25 feel you incommod, Mario, describe us that pozo. When you say, one person is entering in a pozo, how is that pozo for you? It's is to see, how do you? But you see, that person
Starting point is 00:04:39 who you want, and you adoras, uh, poco, so, and you're going to be isolating, so, and you're going to
Starting point is 00:04:45 see, you're going to be getting solo, solo, and onceima opta for romper relations with the rest of the family. Very well. It's,
Starting point is 00:04:54 is that one of the indications in this case of that one person is the tendency to isolation. Aisolment totally and, and more,
Starting point is 00:05:03 be submitted by the influx of another person that is doing a labor very negative. That's
Starting point is 00:05:10 that entry in the pozo not is only consequence of something of something that is something
Starting point is 00:05:17 in that person, if not is an information that, in a reason, that's what kind of of information
Starting point is 00:05:25 could favor of that somebody to get to to meet to that person in concrete is a
Starting point is 00:05:33 person, with a person, with a exclusive with her only, nothing more. The rest
Starting point is 00:05:40 of the family has got got to isolate completely. She has no relations with the
Starting point is 00:05:45 friends, nor have relations with his hermases, neither with the
Starting point is 00:05:48 parents, nor have relation to the time, and have gotten to that person invidious
Starting point is 00:05:53 celos, has got to be got to get a family. The first, is the
Starting point is 00:05:58 first, is sure, to that, that has been been being
Starting point is 00:06:03 we're saying, we're saying, we're saying, we're talking, in the in this case, in this case
Starting point is 00:06:09 perhaps that one of the person he says to the other to the other person, of that what is the relation
Starting point is 00:06:21 with the family and with the friends, no, he has to putt a amount, and, for that has to cut it churgicomently.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Exactly. That's, I would have defined it better. Well, then, now,
Starting point is 00:06:36 me permitting that reflections about some of the things that you've done? Well, that's
Starting point is 00:06:42 how you've described to the person that has been having that influx,
Starting point is 00:06:46 that negative in that other person to cut out like... Celsa and invidious. Celosa? Envidious?
Starting point is 00:06:54 Could you add to add another more? Well, with much a lot. Celosa, envidiosa
Starting point is 00:06:59 and with much fear. The opponent the only of human is the fear.
Starting point is 00:07:08 The fear is in different versions. The ira, the
Starting point is 00:07:13 attack, the violence, the the warrens, the resentiment, the envyia, the celos, the prepotency, etc. So, we're going to explore that fear.
Starting point is 00:07:25 To what could have a person? To all, for what I know to all, it's a fear to that's, I'm going to the other, the other, the other of the other, the last, yeah, not let her do
Starting point is 00:07:36 do nothing, to do a marid, equal, and in the end, in fact, it's fear to almost all in this world. A fear that their children have more relation with his
Starting point is 00:07:46 abelos, that have, in the end of the same. The sensation, obviously, is what is what's called a theory to the
Starting point is 00:07:53 mind, is it. We think we can't we're not so, but we're going to suppose that,
Starting point is 00:07:58 the sensation that is that this person has a fear that if your partner is a
Starting point is 00:08:05 family, is the If his his children are more with the abuelos she
Starting point is 00:08:11 will be the power that's the power. Exactly. Well, I'm to ask
Starting point is 00:08:17 that we're a point because what I'm going to say has the capacity to
Starting point is 00:08:23 have to even of our system of creencies and
Starting point is 00:08:27 Mario, I'm to if if me permitting to
Starting point is 00:08:30 interact to feel in the responses in the measure in the
Starting point is 00:08:35 way you consider that you You know, how does that person that is causing that damage to his
Starting point is 00:08:45 a family, to that's that's his, his kids have a connection with the abelos,
Starting point is 00:08:52 having the importance of the abelos? As a my man, I don't think I don't think
Starting point is 00:08:58 resentment to her, no, no, no, no, it's, what I'm my his son,
Starting point is 00:09:03 is my he's getting in that potso. I don't have a resentment contrary. Simply what I
Starting point is 00:09:08 would I would say is to be that we are your enemies. All the contrary.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Well, I don't I see with with an no, I know with that I would be
Starting point is 00:09:19 to be rather. I'd even like to help them more, that's, you know, I'm, you're, I'm, you're, in, in-, I'm
Starting point is 00:09:36 you know, celosa and envisiosa. That no is incompatible with that no sentiment, the best celosa and
Starting point is 00:09:44 you know you know what are the vases communicants, a case? A-knotice? For those
Starting point is 00:09:54 who don't know it's a series of tubits connected, so what you put in one one side,
Starting point is 00:09:59 imagine that you you're you're a toxic in a one of the tubes,
Starting point is 00:10:03 get to the toxic to all the tubes. If I if I would be if I
Starting point is 00:10:06 would of the other tubes. Although not it had chowed there the toxic I'm
Starting point is 00:10:10 intoxicary. I'm intoxicary. I want to know to the possibility that in the plan
Starting point is 00:10:14 physical we're all the other person is there and the other person is there.
Starting point is 00:10:23 We're in the point of the possibility of that your feelings your form of
Starting point is 00:10:31 a person to be a person to be that person. For absolutely absurd that could be of the point of
Starting point is 00:10:38 of view of the sense, the point of of view of physical, we are we in the plan metaphysical. What would be? If in the other than to try to play to the
Starting point is 00:10:49 game of the reason, you're intents explain, intents, you're, you're, intents,
Starting point is 00:10:57 uh, you know, and you've been that it's not function, decide to decide to play to
Starting point is 00:11:05 the game infinite. The A game infinite, never is the game physical, is the
Starting point is 00:11:12 game metaphysical. I used to call it the horizon vertical. The plan horizontal is the plan
Starting point is 00:11:17 in which we are the form, the material, the time, the space, the
Starting point is 00:11:21 plan vertical is a plan metaphysical. Is what would be what
Starting point is 00:11:26 you would if you start to transform the perception that
Starting point is 00:11:32 you have of that person what would What would you if you'd
Starting point is 00:11:37 if you start to visualize it other way to mandar it and to
Starting point is 00:11:43 sentiments of love of illusion that you super
Starting point is 00:11:49 the possible fear that in your that there's that
Starting point is 00:11:54 you that you discover that you that you that no there
Starting point is 00:12:00 no there that the only reality profound is the
Starting point is 00:12:03 love, what would you say you say you're going to say that's that's a absurd. We have evidence directs of that that's a plan metaphysical is real. I'll put an example. I was in Bhutan and
Starting point is 00:12:19 I was a time in Bhutan studying the theme of the Frisia and there was a Hindu that was in Bhutan, Bhutan is in India, Nepal and the Tibet. This woman had had 10 years that not she had been about
Starting point is 00:12:32 with his brother. A difference You and Mario This woman If you're She was full of resentment You don't You're not
Starting point is 00:12:39 You're in a resentment This woman She was just He was in a resentment So one day Hez-clic And he's Planteau
Starting point is 00:12:45 And he He was To play To play To play Infinite Ten years With
Starting point is 00:12:50 Relations Rottas He in Bombay She in Bhutane And He has an
Starting point is 00:12:57 Eger The Cere The Mett With In The Loving Kindness Meditation, the meditation on the Mood Inconditional, and
Starting point is 00:13:04 it's in the eyes, and first starts, with the image of a person that she wanted much, that, for supposed, not her brother. So, then he starts to know the sensations of that. And, she imagina that his heart is open and he
Starting point is 00:13:22 manda sentiments of peace, of love, of health, et cetera. Then, then, then, after that exercise, he's trying other person that he was indifferent.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I mean, he's funny, I mean, he's a pener know, and he's to do the
Starting point is 00:13:36 same. Fidate, not sentia the same, that I had a person,
Starting point is 00:13:40 but actua as it was it. And finally she brought the
Starting point is 00:13:47 image of his woman. Logically she not she didn't
Starting point is 00:13:51 that that that that was, but in the interior
Starting point is 00:13:55 He said to desire that has a health, that's a good, that you're going to see a and he imagined how
Starting point is 00:14:04 his heart was a ray of light blank, he'd a image of his his brother
Starting point is 00:14:11 his his brother sonraised he had he his heart and he
Starting point is 00:14:16 in the plan physical all the world said this woman has
Starting point is 00:14:21 this is absurd not has no tis sense. He said Albert Einstein that in the life or all is a miracle or nothing is a miracle.
Starting point is 00:14:29 At the day next, what coincidence more grand. At the day the day the next
Starting point is 00:14:37 there's, that 10 years, without to be the day next to the name's a
Starting point is 00:14:43 one of Mumbai. Imagine you know, the surprise incredible this woman.
Starting point is 00:14:51 How is that you know you? I've seen the need to the need to I think
Starting point is 00:14:59 that our relation we have to have done not the only case I know so many
Starting point is 00:15:06 of us we're we're we're we're we're that we're that
Starting point is 00:15:11 they're because more affect something something something emotionally
Starting point is 00:15:15 emotional we we we're we know we're we're
Starting point is 00:15:21 we're with our good a volunted, we'll not do not a problem,
Starting point is 00:15:26 we're not our resentiments, and our rencores and we're just we're trying, but we're trapped in the
Starting point is 00:15:33 Juvenito. I'm all the nights, that you're you're doing what to imagine
Starting point is 00:15:39 totally. Ah, very well, and if that is so, Mario, describe me,
Starting point is 00:15:46 for favor, now, that person, from the position of the game infinite and, for
Starting point is 00:15:53 that can't use in that game, words like zealos and envisodes or me. Well, I see like a a little bit
Starting point is 00:16:02 a needer a man, like a little bit a little bit that has been what a little bit of a person
Starting point is 00:16:10 innocent, that's to have to get to get to the dark, for the side of the
Starting point is 00:16:18 life, but I feel vulnerable, a person in his Well, let me that I'll
Starting point is 00:16:25 let me that I want to you're going to do you're doing this well some months what's about a few
Starting point is 00:16:31 what result you've still no and I think you don't you're
Starting point is 00:16:36 not because that's because that is the game because that's the
Starting point is 00:16:42 game of the empathy and the compassion is that's that
Starting point is 00:16:47 that has served and much to not have resentiments and rencores. The comprehension of that is what you
Starting point is 00:16:56 evita just to judgear it. Declararer culpable and castigar with your rencourt, your resentment. You don't do why?
Starting point is 00:17:06 Because you're doing that you're that's doing that behind that's a human, no, no maldard
Starting point is 00:17:12 but there's a suffering no processed we're not the whole infinite is the level more
Starting point is 00:17:19 of the final of the game finito. Because I think that's the level
Starting point is 00:17:22 more the problem that is you know you're not a person
Starting point is 00:17:25 not a person and deserous of a that's a
Starting point is 00:17:31 great is a extraordinary because because because because other
Starting point is 00:17:34 other not the health does more does the
Starting point is 00:17:38 pain in the anger than the fear a minute of the
Starting point is 00:17:44 system immune six hours with a with a
Starting point is 00:17:48 functionment very very very this not this is not the truth this is
Starting point is 00:17:52 a good good to do the honor good for the whole do you do you're much of
Starting point is 00:17:56 the same people we're we're we're we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:18:00 obvious I'm I'm good people this well it's a
Starting point is 00:18:06 good infinite the game infinite is totally different the the
Starting point is 00:18:08 thing is that you you when you when you when
Starting point is 00:18:14 you see in you a a being a a ser of
Starting point is 00:18:21 a a is a you're you're you're a mind
Starting point is 00:18:25 a look the Michael Bonarote me me in that
Starting point is 00:18:31 metaphor because is brutal Michelangelo he was the Paul
Starting point is 00:18:35 Julio 2 the Papa Julio 2 should be
Starting point is 00:18:36 a popular and Michel Angelo had a temperament
Starting point is 00:18:42 well he he did he he did make
Starting point is 00:18:44 he Bonarotti, he d'OXORRourn in Italy, that stills could visit, that were in that were in the effect.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Oh, but maybe to see, he fastii-a not. But we know that we'd get them to
Starting point is 00:19:02 resentiment. No, he was cargave of a rencour. What which about that this man,
Starting point is 00:19:09 that facet the view to work like you, he could have said, the desgraciao,
Starting point is 00:19:12 that I'm that's the best, I'm the first sculptor of renacimence, no, he's not
Starting point is 00:19:16 he doesn't But where was Michael Angelo playing the Jolla Infinite? That he I was more than the manches, of the fractures of the block, of the imperfections of the block and he saw the sculpture.
Starting point is 00:19:34 No. if you've had a opportunity to see a Michelangelo, Bonarote, you've seen. I've been. I've been direct. Vivo and direct. You know that that is something.
Starting point is 00:19:42 It's a thing, well, that's a thing. Well, that's out of a block of marble, full of effects. What is the game infinite? The joy infinite is that you see in that person the sculpture dormita. It's that
Starting point is 00:19:53 is a ser of light. Claro that has passed for a bad moment. Clearly that has been a part of the game finito. That's not it helps to start. You help to you to not cargarten to ir. And
Starting point is 00:20:07 then I'm that you imagine as a being of light, like a ser radiant, like a, not that's not that's a situation, but that see a
Starting point is 00:20:18 sense, alegre, happy, partying his alighing his light
Starting point is 00:20:27 for there. It's a so a quantum, for that has the
Starting point is 00:20:32 effect that has. I tell, Mario, that if you, the
Starting point is 00:20:37 same you, you have been a result extraordinary, because not
Starting point is 00:20:42 is normal with the suffering that a person carrea, no accumulates a resentment to who is that causing that suffering. So in that moment is liberate to her of that suffering.
Starting point is 00:20:58 How can you liberate? Vyingdala as really is. Not with the personality that has forged and that we've been forged and the experience we've been. But the experience we've been.
Starting point is 00:21:08 But the experience we've been. It's a sense. is, it's a serre of light. This is this is to a bit a
Starting point is 00:21:15 a shot quantical. What what is that when you do you do you know,
Starting point is 00:21:19 you're in the plan of metaphysical. Yeah, and it's that's that's
Starting point is 00:21:23 that's that's that's you're to be to be to be and
Starting point is 00:21:28 even in the many interactions that that you don't vomited a
Starting point is 00:21:32 resentment or that don't omites a recor is it's
Starting point is 00:21:34 to not to not to be to your Mario, I would you I would probably
Starting point is 00:21:42 I'm trying to give you do you know, the same that's been doing this exercise of empathy and of compassion
Starting point is 00:21:51 in the place of the judgment and in a place of a question in your mind with resentment that's
Starting point is 00:21:57 that's done fabulously well, I'm I'm going to do a salt quantico
Starting point is 00:22:00 and as a salt quantico in the salt to the love no
Starting point is 00:22:04 know distance and there and and transform It's a new, and transform. I'd you'd be to
Starting point is 00:22:12 I'd like, as a time of much importance, and of the, also, it's a incredible apprenticeship, that
Starting point is 00:22:19 during, some minutes a day, maybe in 15 minutes, because it's not long, when you
Starting point is 00:22:26 you'll visualize that person like a person like a person, like a person that irradiate something,
Starting point is 00:22:36 like a being a thing, a being a a person of a profound
Starting point is 00:22:43 serenity and the sculpture dormied in the block of marmol because
Starting point is 00:22:51 that that person also that person she be a you look you she'll
Starting point is 00:22:59 be a a trap in his histories personal in his heridas in his
Starting point is 00:23:06 defects as as we're We have we all in this life, of one or other type. What is that for this, you have to have to be able to the possibility of that there is a reality
Starting point is 00:23:17 more profound than what our senses or our little bit of a reason is capable of comprehend. And my proposal is that not you take
Starting point is 00:23:30 to there, because at that level of profundity is possible that you start Notar resistances.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Why resistances? Because in the moment in the moment in that you start to see a person as a person as a man, inevitablyly you'll start to see to be to be a self.
Starting point is 00:23:55 A great. Why? Because we're basals communicants. The toxicity that I accumulow with my form of a person even I don't it's being captured
Starting point is 00:24:08 by levels inconscientes of the other person the light that I put in one of the
Starting point is 00:24:13 basos communicants will be the evidence those that you'll you know the phrase
Starting point is 00:24:20 not is the miracle the that does the cliente the world absolutely thank you
Starting point is 00:24:30 thank you thank you Thank you, because, you'll, it's about about about about conceptuals, of the themes superficials, that is meta,
Starting point is 00:24:43 that is the world metaphysical. That is very easy to do. That's what we can do all. But, to have the courage, to have the
Starting point is 00:24:54 grandeza to talk of things personal that dole that dole with the only objective to contribute to
Starting point is 00:25:02 to help other persons that can be passing for moments similar. That is an enormous regal. That is a immense grandeza. I mean, that's said, nothing of this conversation had been able to succeed if you,
Starting point is 00:25:18 not us would have done that regal. Because we'd have been in the world, yes, we're going to talk about the metaphysical, but here is a, a tryer-to-the-tire-to-the-the-thierra. For that's called Horizon vertical,
Starting point is 00:25:31 because it's the game infinite to the world and the form and what happens that it transforms much. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Thank you very. Well, I want to ask you. I want to ask you to how, how to learn to put limits
Starting point is 00:25:51 to, to be those to be little. I mean, you're saying, you're trying to try to help,
Starting point is 00:25:58 but it's a moment that at the maybe, for example, boning the example of that, that toxicity can't rastrar also, it's saying,
Starting point is 00:26:09 I'm to care, I'm to put a limit, and, of course, it's something difficult, to put an limit to a man, a a partner, a man, a a partner, a man, a man, a brother. How, how learn to gestionar, too?
Starting point is 00:26:20 Well, first, that the toxicity exists, all know. So, the same that there's toxicity environmental, there are persons that with his comments, with his actions, with his critiques,
Starting point is 00:26:33 frankly, what we're not something else a freshnesser, but generate toxicity. What we have to have much of care. It's in ver to the people as toxic. Because consider that a person
Starting point is 00:26:49 is toxic, means that in your essence, the toxicity, it's a characterizes. And no there is a human that in his essence be toxic. This is what important.
Starting point is 00:26:59 The theme is how lidier with the toxicity of some and how set up limits. We'll
Starting point is 00:27:07 see that we have to put limits to the conducts is obvious. There are conducts that are
Starting point is 00:27:11 inappropriate and not parrars generate a lot of suffering in one and the
Starting point is 00:27:16 other but the objective for the question that to be profundize we're not is
Starting point is 00:27:25 parer to a person toxic but to not the toxicity of the person this is
Starting point is 00:27:35 important because it's a distinction very subtle but in the moment in the I see a
Starting point is 00:27:40 person as toxic although us perhaps mean in a plan
Starting point is 00:27:45 subtle I I want I see I'm like a person
Starting point is 00:27:52 with a person with toxicity I don't want castigue, I'm in the
Starting point is 00:27:58 case about what you you're in the moment you're you're
Starting point is 00:28:03 presented like a person a person with a person with a suffering
Starting point is 00:28:07 and for so you what you was the not the vengeance the
Starting point is 00:28:12 vengeance is the resentment or rencour you you're you're the
Starting point is 00:28:15 thing there is there there there for that
Starting point is 00:28:19 for that function that to go to go
Starting point is 00:28:23 We're going to to profundize about your because it's true, there are people that transgreden
Starting point is 00:28:28 the limits, there are people that dominated by the hunger, the anxia, of power,
Starting point is 00:28:37 of someter, they're like a Tila that said that was that was going to
Starting point is 00:28:44 we're going to because the language not us the solution, but if it's
Starting point is 00:28:49 the door that at the are the subduients. Let's talk about that. More than people toxic, me refer to situations toxic. For example,
Starting point is 00:28:58 not is my case, but for putting you a example, a child, who has addictions, to drugs, for example, a mother, that a little bit, well, the child, you can't be all the nights, calling him to the door,
Starting point is 00:29:11 piddlingle a dinner, a mother has to, at the final, say, no I can, and I have to to par to my my son, into this situation that's a matter of this situation that's a lot of
Starting point is 00:29:22 now. Now, Guadalupe, no there's no doubt that that's a question, a question of normal call out and in absolute I want to hear of her. What I want to
Starting point is 00:29:30 let me let's do you know, that's your case, something, something that is a
Starting point is 00:29:39 experience your. Well, similar to the topic of the topic of that's but,
Starting point is 00:29:44 well, logically with my mother, that at a more there a situation
Starting point is 00:29:51 complicated, she constantly comes to me, piding me me help, and at final
Starting point is 00:29:57 gets to say, is that you yeah not you can't help more,
Starting point is 00:29:59 because you know that you know, to say, after here, I'm
Starting point is 00:30:05 to be to be me go to me go to me so, we're
Starting point is 00:30:09 going to whatever, a mother, a one, a man, a a man,
Starting point is 00:30:14 a man, so this is a very, very, very, very very habitual. Okay, now let's explain a thing. You, how do you feel when to your mother or other person, let's in this case, to your mother,
Starting point is 00:30:28 you just, I don't do anything, how do you feel? I'm like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, how much you're doing? Well, I'm, I'm, I'm going to say, me feel, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry, No, I'm not I feel culpable,
Starting point is 00:30:45 no, I don't I can't, that, that's, that's, that's, my, my,
Starting point is 00:30:52 capacity to help me, yeah, has, got to a, but I'm really to
Starting point is 00:30:58 not to be able to satisfy their expectations. And you do you feel in peace or
Starting point is 00:31:05 without her? I, I, I, I, I'm, I, feel in part of me, that's, you
Starting point is 00:31:15 We have to look, the same that a brucula oriental the north, and we know that the north is the north and the north not is the south, nor the east, in the west, we have to know what we're orienta to have the experience and what we do is correct. The first is to put us always on the side of the love. Okay? Poners the
Starting point is 00:31:42 side of the love not only is to puters on the other person
Starting point is 00:31:46 is to get to the love of you myself no I'm
Starting point is 00:31:50 I'm not that's that not is impossible it's the
Starting point is 00:31:57 true love is a person so I'm am
Starting point is 00:32:02 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm first
Starting point is 00:32:05 the love of the love no that you disposition is
Starting point is 00:32:09 clear. Your disposition to put to the love of the love of the love of love, but another of the references is the path interior. When one no has a power interior, even
Starting point is 00:32:20 at the hour of doing something that is a hard, we have to investigate what is not that is that it's that is
Starting point is 00:32:29 you that is you think that evita that exists that peace and there can be there There is ira and peace interior.
Starting point is 00:32:39 No could have fear and peace interior. No could have guilt and peace interior. But, there is trestice and peace interior. I know people extraordinary, friends my. That has perished a kid. This is, Duro, no. Probably the most d'Uro.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Tresteza and peace interior. Tristece and peace interior. So, the tresticea is a sentiment logical, you'd like to do more and do you
Starting point is 00:33:10 have to we're going to have been there's a us that's interfering in that
Starting point is 00:33:17 that's you think you is that? I think that's the fact when you're
Starting point is 00:33:23 a when you're a father and a mom know the care
Starting point is 00:33:26 and to love and a lot of that that that
Starting point is 00:33:29 the fact that's that's being that's also how, how
Starting point is 00:33:36 explain it? Like, not they're, not they're doing, it's being a lot of it's being
Starting point is 00:33:40 an incomprehendida and they they're like, or things so. So, it's going
Starting point is 00:33:46 about the vision, maybe it that's not that I'm that's we've been to me.
Starting point is 00:33:53 We're going, we're going to get them to the thing, the part and you will be
Starting point is 00:34:01 to make your words, with the mine, what that quita the path is the the fear. The fear to that
Starting point is 00:34:11 if not I'm at the altitude that they're going to defraudar and if we're more profound, no me going to care. This is a very important because
Starting point is 00:34:27 we've played with the love in a form quite torpe. And we have converted the love in a trueke. If you not you portas well, Papa not
Starting point is 00:34:38 to care, Moma no to be able to be or what is still more terrible, God, God, not you're going to
Starting point is 00:34:44 mean. So, what I mean? That's what is a trueke? I'm porto well, I'm a
Starting point is 00:34:52 altitude of what it's supposed to that I do do and I want. But no
Starting point is 00:34:58 I'm not I want to want. And the human only looks two
Starting point is 00:35:01 things. Sentire has been and carer. So, if you see that the true no depends
Starting point is 00:35:12 of what you do you do you do you that's, that's, or not at the altitude,
Starting point is 00:35:17 not affect to the true and if affect to that that love has
Starting point is 00:35:23 to be something, that is interest, that is true that is very important
Starting point is 00:35:29 because in first place, us understand the fragility human,
Starting point is 00:35:37 that we want to a form very imperfect and you, without, you, you can't
Starting point is 00:35:45 love to a way to make to a form perfect? Searles amando even,
Starting point is 00:35:51 even they don't do the same way. In that moment, and
Starting point is 00:35:57 to keep to you, even, even, although you you know, you have to do resolve that?
Starting point is 00:36:07 It's just, not only is that you you, you see that you see that you defraudas. That's, that's that you keep a path.
Starting point is 00:36:19 So in that moment, when you amas, independently of what you have done, and you amas,
Starting point is 00:36:27 independently where you have been you've put into the moment, you have a power,
Starting point is 00:36:33 and when you metes the love without conditions, because that's without
Starting point is 00:36:39 it's not conditioned by how you're or you're to be it's when you when you
Starting point is 00:36:45 metes in the equation that that you're you're in the
Starting point is 00:36:50 world you're in mind. Tener in mind that one thing is what we're
Starting point is 00:37:01 what we're what we really is total but what we really actually and that
Starting point is 00:37:04 it's that that's where is where is the solution of many of the things. So, it's
Starting point is 00:37:10 sense to this for you? Much. So, how you going to do you
Starting point is 00:37:16 to love to them and I'm to me? Amandem to me? It's to be,
Starting point is 00:37:23 amartes in your vulnerability and say, maybe is a propu
Starting point is 00:37:28 to say, Guadalupe, you've done what you've seen, what you've seen
Starting point is 00:37:36 what you have seen, and there are things that you have seen that you I'm profoundly so you
Starting point is 00:37:47 you're if you use that you're using you're you're you're and you
Starting point is 00:37:55 you'll use that you until you start you start to start you're to change
Starting point is 00:38:01 the because when the when the thinking when the thinking a level in the inconscientate
Starting point is 00:38:05 it's in that moment to start to change your perception. It will be to change how you see. Empezzar to be to change how you see. And it's very interesting, because
Starting point is 00:38:18 the mirada is also a a look at. The mirada appreciative, now is a mirada, under commies, assustada.
Starting point is 00:38:30 When a mirada is a mirab, what you call you is to the fear and to when your mirada is
Starting point is 00:38:38 a mirrored appreciative what you you know, it's an Amor. So, the mirada is a call. So when you
Starting point is 00:38:45 start to you're going to your disposition to look at that form and you you're looking and you
Starting point is 00:38:52 with your imagination, you'll start to see a other way and then you have a sense
Starting point is 00:38:59 for you? So it's a, it's a practice it, it's like when I started
Starting point is 00:39:05 to get a bicycle, it would have the age of you're a Eric, and you're sure you're sure you're
Starting point is 00:39:11 sure you're a bit more I was a little bit more rune'nes and I'm and I'm and I'm
Starting point is 00:39:17 the way the end of the other the other and that me came and when me quit
Starting point is 00:39:25 those ruddines but when when I did click the balance I did I did
Starting point is 00:39:30 make that things can be can be that can't be and at where where
Starting point is 00:39:35 And where sito can go to? And at what I imagine? I was, I would have to be used to the Redine. For me, well, the Redine was that. So, it's to make a click. But when you do that click, is that all can be. So, it's defiant.
Starting point is 00:39:49 So, I, I'm, in the other than the question, how to me go to cost, I, I'm to ask, to where can get? Until where you can get? So, you imagineate if this
Starting point is 00:40:00 you do you integras in your life. This is can apply horizontally to all. Relations more as in the case of familiar, relations more professionals, but imagine what is this.
Starting point is 00:40:14 To be emitting in that frequency of vibration. So what can pass is extraordinary. Well, I think we've got to at the time of this session and give us the thanks,
Starting point is 00:40:30 for your courage, for your grandeza, for your desire, contribute, trallying the things to the earth. And at final is that. It's a equation simple. Mets the fear in the equation, all suffer us. Mets in the amor, all we're going to.

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