Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - Cómo aprovechar la IA sin sustituir el vínculo humano

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

¿La inteligencia artificial es una amenaza o puede ser una aliada? En esta conversación con Miguel, experto en tecnología e IA, exploramos cómo prepararnos para un mundo donde estas herramientas c...ambian el trabajo y la vida sin perder lo humano por el camino.Profundizamos en por qué la tecnología puede ser una herramienta y no muro, y cómo la ética —no la máquina— marca la diferencia.También abordamos usos con criterio: la IA conversacional para aliviar ansiedad o soledad cuando no hay acceso a profesionales, siendo el contacto humano lo prioritario, cómo apoyar diagnósticos sin sustituir al médico, y qué señales indican que hace falta acompañamiento humano.🌐⁠Página Web⁠📷⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠▶️⁠Youtube⁠📲⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠🎟️Entradas a la nueva conferencia 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We have to intuit that there is a capacity of in what now us perhaps fundamentally a menace-a-dening. We have to understand that the technology has to help to be a person
Starting point is 00:00:13 no has been that's a sense that it's if I use the technology for that me separate not let's let's throw the
Starting point is 00:00:22 culp to the technology but to my fault to put as a value what is
Starting point is 00:00:31 the human what is to put in the focus is in the ethical human
Starting point is 00:00:34 for that I think the humanism and the technology have always and not
Starting point is 00:00:42 confront and not think that the technology is going to be
Starting point is 00:00:45 not what will what will the human is the human
Starting point is 00:00:50 not the technology Hello, Miguel, welcome. Muchisman, thanks for the invitation to this conversation. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Thank you. What question you'd like that we'd like that we're those? I'd to ask
Starting point is 00:01:05 Mario, how do you that the people should be prepared for an environment in the
Starting point is 00:01:11 new technologies and the intelligence artificial are redefining day-a-day the concept of the
Starting point is 00:01:16 work and of the life and so be of those who have the opportunity in the other
Starting point is 00:01:22 to send us amnastated. What are you to do? Well, I'm doing
Starting point is 00:01:30 because I'm doing that is a basic thing to understand what you want to do you
Starting point is 00:01:35 doing to those who are those new technologies me consider a person multi-podential
Starting point is 00:01:42 and for that's tremendously curious and and I think
Starting point is 00:01:46 that's the way to learn to learn in profundity, something new.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And, well, in a moment that I decided to tryver me to put me to get to my students and say this is
Starting point is 00:01:58 your future and that they talk surf-earn this ola for that not they come. Well, I
Starting point is 00:02:03 think with what you have said Miguel, we can make a good at a guill
Starting point is 00:02:07 interesting. The ola exists. The o'clock is great. The
Starting point is 00:02:13 o'clock can be very a menace as a menaceant if one is put in the
Starting point is 00:02:18 old and pretends parrower a peach a peach a over over to be
Starting point is 00:02:22 to be to learn the the the is it has about a
Starting point is 00:02:29 concept a concept a is surffair so surfs implic
Starting point is 00:02:34 a over to do do I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:02:39 three three children are very are very very lexanos
Starting point is 00:02:46 to be surfaced so we're we're we're going to learn to surfaced. We're
Starting point is 00:02:52 we're to intuit that there's a capacity of the in what now we think fundamentally
Starting point is 00:03:00 a menace I'm I imagine when the first people in the Polynesia and
Starting point is 00:03:05 in Hawaii started they're they're seeing the oldas those those
Starting point is 00:03:10 are they are possible that this is only not not We don't go to
Starting point is 00:03:15 the barcos because we don't they don't know another form and then they're going to do
Starting point is 00:03:23 what you started to start to start to get to care and they're to prove and they're
Starting point is 00:03:31 sure that the first tables were very rudimentar and they were tumvades and then
Starting point is 00:03:36 they're to put that the position to surfaced the o'clock the o'clock not
Starting point is 00:03:42 we're going to do that has many effects beneficial. So the first we have
Starting point is 00:03:48 to do you know the point of view it. You have said perfectly so I'm doing other words to what
Starting point is 00:03:54 you have done a opportunity. And be it a opportunity and say act to actual
Starting point is 00:03:59 to work to be a opportunity. And not actual like if for an opportunity
Starting point is 00:04:05 that means that you do you don't you so you so so
Starting point is 00:04:09 so quite to little to a little, experimenting and and a little to and a
Starting point is 00:04:16 little to learn. The second point of view, we have to understand that the
Starting point is 00:04:23 technology has to help to help to do not it's no,
Starting point is 00:04:29 it's that it and how we we can substitute a technology to
Starting point is 00:04:36 a human? The various ways, the first, valoring
Starting point is 00:04:42 what is the human, is a thing, the technology not
Starting point is 00:04:46 can't distance us. We're talking about with the microphones. If these these microphones,
Starting point is 00:04:53 probably the conversation not would be able but we're not. But to
Starting point is 00:04:58 we're not. If I use the technology for that I separate,
Starting point is 00:05:04 not let's let's the call the and the technology,
Starting point is 00:05:07 but to put as a power priority what is the
Starting point is 00:05:13 human. The emails have their value. But if I'm a email
Starting point is 00:05:19 to get a form constant that I'm a more to make a little bit
Starting point is 00:05:25 the problem not is the email is that has been so and then
Starting point is 00:05:29 nobody know nobody is really to be a affect to our
Starting point is 00:05:36 life but we can we can we don't think that that is
Starting point is 00:05:41 something that we're going to find. It's something that we're going to create. So,
Starting point is 00:05:47 from where we're to create that intelligence? From a from a thought
Starting point is 00:05:52 to help to help to resolve problems important or we're
Starting point is 00:06:00 to use to do that someter. So, then the problem not is
Starting point is 00:06:05 the technology. Where you have to put the the focus the
Starting point is 00:06:07 is, the the in the ethics human. In the ethics
Starting point is 00:06:14 and not to put ballons out of saying it's that the intelligence artificial,
Starting point is 00:06:18 that I know the technology not not is the space. We're
Starting point is 00:06:24 we're we're creating we're and it and it is a important
Starting point is 00:06:28 or will be a problem depending what we think we're
Starting point is 00:06:32 in the question for so I think that the
Starting point is 00:06:36 humanism and the technology have always to have
Starting point is 00:06:40 And not confrontados and not think that the technology corror will be to be able to the human. No, what he'll have to be the human, is the ser human, not the technology. So,
Starting point is 00:06:52 ver it as a incredible opportunity and continue and keep doing of that factor, that's the factor human.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And that is the that is the that we're to maintain us and is the and is the that will allow
Starting point is 00:07:07 that we're that's fascinating as farcettance as farce to resolve problems and
Starting point is 00:07:16 not to create those. It has a sense for you? Muchissimo. And it's
Starting point is 00:07:22 more, I think that today the intelligence artificial we're starting to
Starting point is 00:07:27 understand also as a thing as a thing of our own
Starting point is 00:07:33 health mental. And And, and in those circumstances, and an environment in
Starting point is 00:07:39 the way it's more difficult to give access to professional in those sectors,
Starting point is 00:07:44 and in those necessities, also me it's not that the A conversational can be useful for
Starting point is 00:07:50 that the people who have those accessos can go more than the book
Starting point is 00:07:54 of the self always a better a human professional but if you
Starting point is 00:07:59 not you have that the only alternative is the the pastilla
Starting point is 00:08:02 I think there there are opportunities and is starting to be studies very interesting of how these technologies can help to reduce the anxiety in some people that are passing
Starting point is 00:08:13 for a moment complicated. Yeah, it has much sense for me what you is because a amiga she brought to Japan some, a few years,
Starting point is 00:08:24 some focas, blankas, with an eyes negros very great, like they've the comics in Japan,
Starting point is 00:08:31 they were like the peluche, they were blanditos and they were a little they were a technology very
Starting point is 00:08:37 very very a little and this person was in residences in residences
Starting point is 00:08:43 of people that had had very a company is
Starting point is 00:08:48 not they not and she she and she and
Starting point is 00:08:52 the advances that they had when when they
Starting point is 00:08:56 they those those things of the professor harry
Starting point is 00:09:01 harrow the The primatologist, with Jane Goodal, the most advanced than he has known the world,
Starting point is 00:09:08 he was the little little little littlees, the littleits that they had pre-oed the mother,
Starting point is 00:09:16 simply having a mother of a petulche that involved a carcasa of metal, evolutioned
Starting point is 00:09:23 much better that if no, no, they were ratitas apartas of her
Starting point is 00:09:28 mother, that's they're with a pincel, a pencil, not they're not
Starting point is 00:09:32 they're those pathologies, the ideal, logically always that any of that any of human have lots of
Starting point is 00:09:43 connections with other people, but what is he not there? Is that no any other alternative?
Starting point is 00:09:50 Is that a lot of a lot of a machine that for being informed with
Starting point is 00:09:57 intelligence artificial generative is capable to have a
Starting point is 00:10:00 conversation intelligent with that person because that is that that's not that's not a human
Starting point is 00:10:06 no, what is human is that is a but if you're only and there
Starting point is 00:10:12 nobody around that I want to do that problem you know that person
Starting point is 00:10:19 has a machine that makes that he'll make a sense
Starting point is 00:10:24 less a so so I think this is a
Starting point is 00:10:26 example of exceptional interest now well, we'll, we'll
Starting point is 00:10:31 get to do you know, we're going to get to the abelita it's not a
Starting point is 00:10:36 little bit of the not you're not because there not not is a thing of the
Starting point is 00:10:40 intelligence artificial. There's a problem of care of carey or for
Starting point is 00:10:46 example, is it is used the quantity of data, the mechanisms
Starting point is 00:10:52 of the mechanisms of the mechanisms of neuronels the the the
Starting point is 00:10:53 amount that the big is doing much in the
Starting point is 00:10:56 diagnostics but that not is for that a
Starting point is 00:10:59 medical, say, I'll do to the intelligence artificial that's a good,
Starting point is 00:11:03 it's a good, it's a substitute. Now, if you not you don't have a
Starting point is 00:11:09 ability to do that's a little that you have a machine, that's a
Starting point is 00:11:16 question, you're going to be much better. I think that if this is this is the
Starting point is 00:11:19 perspective adequate, I think we're we're we're we we're we we're
Starting point is 00:11:23 in a moment of the history of the humanity because that, that's
Starting point is 00:11:26 not even the creators of the intelligence artificial know what will be going to
Starting point is 00:11:32 do you because when at this system of the system of the is even
Starting point is 00:11:39 impervisable, no? How it works for the I think that's,
Starting point is 00:11:43 I think, well, that, well, that's a thing, that's
Starting point is 00:11:48 that's sure, that we don't to do you that we're
Starting point is 00:11:52 that, and that can put to support things valiosas I think
Starting point is 00:11:56 the form in the form in that I'm we're going we're going to we're very much
Starting point is 00:12:03 thank you well good thank you this has been a conversation with a
Starting point is 00:12:07 component technical thanks a great a bit a bit of a
Starting point is 00:12:11 bit of a bit of a lot of people about about him
Starting point is 00:12:18 he's a person who have done that I'm not we're not we're Trampa of
Starting point is 00:12:24 enfrenting the humanism with the technology for favor. Not we let's
Starting point is 00:12:28 the culp to the technology of the problem of the human
Starting point is 00:12:31 and we think we think we a me said to me a investigator
Starting point is 00:12:37 when me had a time a not. Exactly
Starting point is 00:12:45 we're that's a opportunity to we're about we're
Starting point is 00:12:49 going to some we're more more young less. Cuytero
Starting point is 00:12:55 much and a grand a brazo.

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