Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - Cómo encarnar la fuerza del guerrero PARA TRANSFORMAR TU VIDA

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

En esta conversación con Paloma Ávila en el programa Sana Mente profundizamos en el poderoso arquetipo de El Guerrero en El Camino del Héroe y cómo su fuerza puede ayudarnos a transformar nuestra ...vida. Reflexionamos sobre el valor del esfuerzo consciente, la importancia de mantenernos firmes ante las dificultades y cómo abrazar las pruebas puede ser el primer paso hacia el crecimiento personal.Vamos a descubrir cómo encarnar esta figura nos permite gestionar el miedo, sanar nuestras heridas y superar los límites que nos impone el ego. También exploramos el papel del arquetipo de El Mago, representando el amor incondicional y el perdón como herramientas fundamentales para la sanación y la transformación.Ojalá este pódcast te ayude y pueda convertirse en una inspiración a la hora de despertar y florecer tu verdadero potencial.Página Web:  https://marioalonsopuig.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marioalonsopuig/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@MarioAlonsoPuigOficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarioAlonsoPuigOficial

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Starting point is 00:00:04 The call the we're we're we're we're not we're not all
Starting point is 00:00:09 we're not we're not all we're to do that because we're
Starting point is 00:00:17 we're we're not because it's to a world or
Starting point is 00:00:21 a world is this is a podcast for those people
Starting point is 00:00:29 that people want to think in great and living in
Starting point is 00:00:38 to hear with me this adventure of this adventure of discovery and the personal. Only, maybe I'll get
Starting point is 00:00:45 before, but we'll get us much more much more very much. Bien-
Starting point is 00:00:50 Very Good. Mario, we're to the incomodididate. There's a point in the
Starting point is 00:01:01 life that always can be different, can get when one is more more young or when
Starting point is 00:01:05 is a point in the one that one you feel in the want to feel the
Starting point is 00:01:11 body so well, or well with that you can
Starting point is 00:01:14 feel to be in the person, and not me refer only a thing
Starting point is 00:01:18 physical, not to be to be in the life. And that that
Starting point is 00:01:24 that is also the origin of the hero. The hero is
Starting point is 00:01:30 very very very kind of in the character, and there
Starting point is 00:01:33 really there there something there say out of your
Starting point is 00:01:37 come to come to be to come to do this other
Starting point is 00:01:39 task. Tell us a how the How the How the Carino of Hero Inspired this new book you about the Desperat
Starting point is 00:01:47 of the Conscience and of the Beingstair. The The Camino is my ultimate book and
Starting point is 00:01:53 is the book that is the book that has written experiences very profound
Starting point is 00:01:58 in this sense is when me pia with with with
Starting point is 00:02:02 more madurance it is certain when I started to
Starting point is 00:02:05 I started the the creator of this concept, the of the hero, he, he'll call the The Cami No, and Hector, for the course, on a man and women,
Starting point is 00:02:14 in a voyage in which they're discovering, all those resources, and those resources, those possibilities that not knew that they were,
Starting point is 00:02:21 and that when they're to turn to the part of the part of, they're going in great benefactors of the humanity.
Starting point is 00:02:28 He studied both the culture of Orient and and he has been the base of a series of
Starting point is 00:02:34 the series of the series, the saga, the War of the Galaxias, and many others. Well, then
Starting point is 00:02:40 in the way of the first I planed is a concept that I've lived with enormous
Starting point is 00:02:46 intensity, what is what is a reality much more a lot of that we see that
Starting point is 00:02:53 we've been today with our senses things very beautiful. I'm this is the studio
Starting point is 00:02:58 maravios I'm in this city incredible, in this country extraordinary, that is
Starting point is 00:03:03 a reality but there are other realities in our life that are not bonita. Not is bonita the disease, not is a lot of the conflicts, not are the unites not are the injustices,
Starting point is 00:03:13 not are beautiful the wars, no, are things feas. And then, one, think that the life has
Starting point is 00:03:19 to be so, and all, however, we know that the would be other
Starting point is 00:03:23 because if not if not existier, if not this is called the
Starting point is 00:03:28 conatus, this this force vital that us that
Starting point is 00:03:31 that we invite to to display that potential to evolutionar, because all of a sudden, quiet. So that's a voyage of the hero, is a voyage in which the person has called the call and go and going to that
Starting point is 00:03:44 time, to really recognize that is to be to knowerce, someone who was the great writer Frances Marcel Pruss when he said,
Starting point is 00:03:55 the veraddero the discovery not is to go to find to look new lands, but is to learn to see the old
Starting point is 00:04:01 the old earth with new eyes, is to turn to a point of part of
Starting point is 00:04:05 a look with a mind that a matter of the mind that your vision
Starting point is 00:04:10 has changed. You see, you see, you know a person
Starting point is 00:04:14 insinificante incapable to have an impact in the world, but
Starting point is 00:04:17 you see, as a person a person to make the
Starting point is 00:04:22 people, as the people you see you're doing different
Starting point is 00:04:25 but but not as distant. So it's much more more easy the encounter. And not you confronts to the life when not you do what you want, you
Starting point is 00:04:31 understand that the life you do what you need. So in this fluid, one really is when can live. I,
Starting point is 00:04:39 me, it's much to see in the book the ideas of certain archetypes of the hero,
Starting point is 00:04:46 like the of the mago and the demonios. And I would that us help us
Starting point is 00:04:52 briefly to have a sensation of how they see in these archetypes in our life, in our
Starting point is 00:04:58 life in our life not we're probably not to be a demonio but
Starting point is 00:05:04 definitive we're going to find one in some moment. The person
Starting point is 00:05:10 that the person who the medical Swiss Karl Gustab Jung
Starting point is 00:05:14 he in his investigations he went to the conclusion that
Starting point is 00:05:18 there had figures images that all those the
Starting point is 00:05:22 human we're we can recognize that Jung was a person
Starting point is 00:05:30 that was a person he he encountered that the thought that
Starting point is 00:05:35 he was limited with the problem the complex
Starting point is 00:05:38 of and he had the sense that there was
Starting point is 00:05:42 there was in Australia with tribus aborig he
Starting point is 00:05:48 was in the US, with natives in the US, he was in Africa, with tribus natives, and he started to understand things that only a person with a time a world can't understand, a person who has recorried many horizons. The archetypes are those figures that all we have, that when, let us try us to
Starting point is 00:06:10 the present, in some way, they're invite to have a form of The archetypes Jungianos are archetypes complex. In my life, I've seen that the two fundamental those who really take from almost all the apriety are the grero and the mag. The figure archipic of the guerrero represents the capacity to to to the the ability to be present
Starting point is 00:06:38 without reactionar, without counter-attacar, without to be able to be blockyado. It's the force of the presence, is the gestion of the respiration for that I'm a pattern chaotic, proper states of fear. It's to maintain that sonrisa
Starting point is 00:06:55 of that person that's accepting the situation, not he's not rechazzing. And it's also the archetype of that person that knows that even what has a dragon or a demonio, demonio not in the sense
Starting point is 00:07:07 theological, not the force of the mal, but what he's front to you, know that that's a door. So as it's a part. So,
Starting point is 00:07:19 not so it's not just with the appearance what it is the image of the dragon
Starting point is 00:07:26 or the image of the demonio. And when it's it's open the door,
Starting point is 00:07:31 they're those sombras most our sunbrals, our children
Starting point is 00:07:36 and in that has to appear the the If not has opened the door, it's not been because the door
Starting point is 00:07:46 is open to connect us with that little bit of the child, with that need to be the man. The mague has two great powers. The power of love without conditions and the power of pardoning without limit.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And in that moment, one, is he a same independently of the errors that have committed in the past and he's pardoned to me for all those those same errors.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And in that moment it's the sunnation of the injuries. It's impressive what this can do in the life of a human. It's absolutely impressive. In a occasion, I'd say, this is too beautiful to be, you know, you know, why it's so, because it's so,
Starting point is 00:08:26 so, so it's so beautiful. For that's so very so, Monty. I'd like to go over what you're saying, because sanamente we've
Starting point is 00:08:36 revised many of these things, sanar the traumas, to go to the new erred, but what what is
Starting point is 00:08:46 is that sensation of, of the really I'm to go to see the mountain,
Starting point is 00:08:55 the mountain has the way, the way is a time, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:09:00 get to and the majority in an initial says, for favor,
Starting point is 00:09:03 no. It's very difficult to hear to and so. And for
Starting point is 00:09:08 that you get a little to the life daily what are those
Starting point is 00:09:11 mages that are those are the people that are a bit not a
Starting point is 00:09:15 lot of that I'm going to get to how can we're to make the
Starting point is 00:09:21 time when the mango is when the mango we we're
Starting point is 00:09:26 we're we're all Campbell Joseph in the year he
Starting point is 00:09:30 he said he said he he said we're we're the but
Starting point is 00:09:35 not we're we're we're just we are we are not just to see that invitation, precisely because we're
Starting point is 00:09:44 with the appearance, and the appearance not because it's to a world known or a world is known. In my experience, when is the journey the
Starting point is 00:09:52 journey, when it's when you're two things. One, when you're to start a rote, it's,
Starting point is 00:10:01 it's, I don't think to see it. Or the second reason in my experience is when someone, someone intuels something, that he inspires to
Starting point is 00:10:14 to believe that there is a that is a partying. Because effectively, for that we don't we'll get from that zone familiar, for me, erroneously, called a zone of comfort, because much people not are comfortable there, is a zone familiar, we've always
Starting point is 00:10:28 have a depression, even a depression, the person who has a what is what what is what I know, no. Salis, is defiant because it's is that's called the Barreira of Panic. It's like a vertigo. You think the world disappears. And that's a pure fiction of the mind.
Starting point is 00:10:47 When you do that pass to the front, when you have a powerosy motive, if you don't have that motive, you're going to coplar to almost all. So, for that, listen the call, is, in my experience, in one of those two situations,
Starting point is 00:11:03 or really, you need a change a profound in your life, at times, as you say, you, Paloma has succeeded, a infirmity, you is you, is that... No, I can't be a no, I can't be a
Starting point is 00:11:14 unferme, or has considered much the point of view of economic, but you have left in the way to all your people, and you say, is that
Starting point is 00:11:21 not worth, mil things. So, there, you know, you said, it's a cabo. Or, as you know,
Starting point is 00:11:28 you're, you're, you, you know, you, you're, you're, you're
Starting point is 00:11:33 that you're you're going to say, I'm going to to cross the line to the horizon convinced of that I'm going to
Starting point is 00:11:41 go to a new continent. Well, that's that's that is something that is a because I
Starting point is 00:11:48 want to do another example. Many people that in our program is a a who has costed much, or
Starting point is 00:11:55 he has much years, luching with the of the the tristence, of the and the
Starting point is 00:12:03 and also, and and also is and also is a can't try to try to try to
Starting point is 00:12:08 in what you're because the guerrero, because the guerrero has to make a effort, and
Starting point is 00:12:16 you know that that is something that's a time that it's a question that it's a
Starting point is 00:12:24 thing that we are quite to understand. But something that's what we're called a guy that we're
Starting point is 00:12:31 necessarily of actually, no, violent. So there is a distinction of how is that force and that guerrero, how is that a play without violence? Well, it's the same distinction that is between the rabia and the ira or the desire to correct and the desire to castigar.
Starting point is 00:12:51 For example, a person has something inadequate. You can't get it impassible. You have to say that that's not is the correct. So what you're is the correction. So you have to be very very hard with the
Starting point is 00:13:08 fact. Oh, this no is so, but you don't want to agreder to the person. You want to correct not you want
Starting point is 00:13:17 castigar. The correction comes of the rabia. The ira is associated to the volunted of
Starting point is 00:13:26 the so that is one we have very we're talking about the guerrero, that figure
Starting point is 00:13:33 a man or woman, that invoked the archetype of the guerrero, they're they're
Starting point is 00:13:39 they're not they're they're that that's the force, that's the force of the agression, but
Starting point is 00:13:48 without desire to do that the aggressor. It's a limit in the front,
Starting point is 00:13:52 it's a great limit. It's a line fine but it's a line very
Starting point is 00:13:56 precise. When I I exercised the that any surgeon, had an instrument that is the besturie. I when I'd have a cut
Starting point is 00:14:07 in a incision addominal, I had to cut exactly, not me could pass. It's a line fine, but it's the line to have to get to get.
Starting point is 00:14:17 So, that's the difference. When we're about of the Guerrero, we're a position, a postura, a postura, that par the damage, but no
Starting point is 00:14:25 he wants to attack the aggressor, no want to errs. It's a person, is a figure archipic, that what he's looking is, I'm going to mantanar. No, I'm going to attack, no I'll go in, and me will be to be blocked.
Starting point is 00:14:40 It's a sense is my testigo. It's an archetype in which the respiration has to be at the abdomen. Because if you go to the thorax, that is the property of the situations of anxiety and of panic. maintain the sonrisa property
Starting point is 00:14:57 of that person that's not are not a fact that he's not a
Starting point is 00:15:02 person the same he's resiste persist what he abrace and
Starting point is 00:15:08 he transform the the the the the clear
Starting point is 00:15:13 that the problem is the so the the guerrano
Starting point is 00:15:16 is saying how I'm I'm doing how I'm
Starting point is 00:15:20 saying I need I need I need to this level.
Starting point is 00:15:24 All know. A society where, many times the message is that who's a person is the tonto of the class, I'm going to say, humildlyly the contrary, that the effort has a value, always that has a sense. And the effort that the guerrero is a, is a is a effort consented.
Starting point is 00:15:43 That the things pass because, because, if the fruits can of the arbor sin, and that the agricultur, plant the semia, abone the earth, that's not how we've, no, we've created. It's very easy to to buy that idea. It's false and then then, then the people don't
Starting point is 00:16:02 when the people don't get the things and you me mintyro, yeah, they're minted, and you've got me... Or if they get it and not obtain and not being in well, in my experience, the most valioso of the
Starting point is 00:16:15 life, if it's a did a dedication, if it's a effort with sense. It's not only is the The loggro, is the process, it has to have a sense, not is to force-as-for-is-for-sfor-sarce, is to force-sorce, in
Starting point is 00:16:31 doing the process, knowing that at the final, the loggro-s are the result of that process. We've revised with various neuroscientifices and neuroscientifices ultimately, just as the neurociencia, still restopando, and
Starting point is 00:16:47 today, it's almost it's a retake to our relation with the effort, because And, also, our cableado internal, our cerebr, is designed for that, so, now, that when to plantar, then, then to send out the fruit, not that one one encounter a fruit like fortuitly. And I'd like to that other place, that is in an universe of excess of pleasure, of dopamine, of the food rapid, to the cellular, to all the vices,
Starting point is 00:17:17 to the pornography, to the drugs, to the excess of violence, What is, what is there, after this work, that at the final is the of the conscience? What is there at the final of the that you say, it's,
Starting point is 00:17:32 it's all the pain that that are going to that are going to that are the final? And, also in the process. First,
Starting point is 00:17:42 a little point about what you have said. The father of the neurociences modern was Don Santiago Ramonica Hall. And Don Santiago
Starting point is 00:17:51 Cajal, Premier Nobel of Medicine in 2006, said, all being a man, could be if he's a sculptor of his own cerebral. Today,
Starting point is 00:18:00 we know that that dedication, that effort with sense, that illusion, that enthusiasm for doing to make
Starting point is 00:18:06 your metas, produce changes very profound in the site, architecture
Starting point is 00:18:12 cerebral, with formation of new neurons, a part of cellas mother,
Starting point is 00:18:16 formation of new circuits, new connections, at the time of the spina dendritics. Then we have to understand that when a person in the desperance, it's a liberate a hormone
Starting point is 00:18:30 called cortisol, that's encarge even to eliminate neurons. The next thing that you comment, the theme of the dopamine. I've been about the hormones since more of 10 years. There are three mechanisms for those that act,
Starting point is 00:18:43 the dopamine, The az cortical, the ad mesolimbic, and the ad meso estriado. The admesolimbic is profoundly addictive. What is mean that all what is to be engaged with the technologies produce an addiction, another addiction that utilizes the admesolimbiccic. It is the consumption excessive of the sugar. The sugar is very addictive because it also active the admeosolimbic. like the technologies.
Starting point is 00:19:14 So, it's a discipline to say, after here, if you, and to keep your last
Starting point is 00:19:19 commentio, what is what there's what there's when one super a dimension, more physical,
Starting point is 00:19:26 the dimension, more mental, what is what there, there's a thing that's a idea,
Starting point is 00:19:32 the sense of the unity, that we need that we need we need immensely one to others.
Starting point is 00:19:38 That the that does to take to you, even I know, I'm that I'm
Starting point is 00:19:40 that I do you, to you, is having an impact on me, even in the people that not are between you and I. And this also has a great explanation at a level hormonal, because there's a liberation of an hormone called oxytocina, that are not only that more control the stress for that not be excessive, protect in the heart, protect the system immune,
Starting point is 00:20:02 is that what is what is there more than what we've, discover what really we're really? And what are in the fund? We're not so. What does it? We're a nationality? In our case, because we're countries
Starting point is 00:20:18 and Spain, we're in a country, but what, over the other than us is a thing very simple. We want the same. Ser more felices and suffer less.
Starting point is 00:20:31 The study most important is over the frisia that is in the world, the most important in its longitude. It's a study that still still in vigor in the University of Harvard
Starting point is 00:20:39 that has demonstrated that what really us makes felices is the encounter, is to be one's with others, is the sentir us and the power to care, that is what there is, the final, the love. I'm emmociona much what you
Starting point is 00:20:54 plan you, because something that we say, in a manner, as a mantra in this program, is the idea of that the pastilla,
Starting point is 00:21:03 that is the community, and from, and from that logic, how connect you the the wayneestar personal with the community of the community of collective? Because, also the neuroscience today has given much
Starting point is 00:21:18 pistas, respect to what you are you saying, and how in an act altruistic, egoista, one does things for others, and is it and for others and for one myself, too? The difference
Starting point is 00:21:32 between the egoism and the to be the endergues for me is the the egoism is, I do it for other, but what I'm interested is my my beingestal. And as if I do
Starting point is 00:21:48 I do, I'm a result is that I'm not I can't say that it's an egotcentrism. So, the theme of the community is very important. There's a study that's the blue zones, the zones as azzles. It's also. Ah, and the zones
Starting point is 00:22:02 azule are so because the principal investigator used for to mark those tints Blue Zones. And there's a region in the South of California, a zone is called Loma Linda. And in Loma Linda, it's has demonstrated that one of the factors most important for the longevity, but not only the longevity, but the time of life, but the
Starting point is 00:22:24 carity of life is a community. In Loma Linda, for different reasons, there is that community. They've just in a man, one's a other. Nobody is indifference. No, there's a desidia of what what he's
Starting point is 00:22:39 a problem. And it's one of the factors that's not only in the Malinda, where most it's also in Ohimi, in
Starting point is 00:22:49 Okinawa, in Japan. It's one of the factors. In Guantaste, in all the blues zones, there communities very very, very
Starting point is 00:22:57 very, and this is very interesting because in the 2009 won the Premier Nobel of Medicine, Dr. Blackburn, for the discovery of the telomerase that reparer the telomeres, that are predictors of the longevity.
Starting point is 00:23:08 The doctora Blackburn, not only is a scientific, of primary level, to, say, a premium Nobel of medicine, but is that, is a woman with a grand component humanist, and she has demonstrated that the relation
Starting point is 00:23:20 human, when you see, valorada, and cared, and supported, etc., the telomener. The telomera... of telomeres, in such a way
Starting point is 00:23:30 that the telomeres are more large. It's a predictor of the longevity. Also we know
Starting point is 00:23:34 that when there's a relation of community, it's active the system nervous
Starting point is 00:23:38 parasympathic that utilizes as acety colina. The acety colina is very important
Starting point is 00:23:45 because regula very well the system immune. The system immune when
Starting point is 00:23:51 altera its function is responsible of Infernalies are very grave. Enferrals are self-immunes. And, of course,
Starting point is 00:23:59 know that we have a system that regulal the functioning of the system immune, for that not liberate that can produce a disaster in the body, but all the
Starting point is 00:24:10 contrary, cytokines anti-inflammatories, and that that can generate the proper encounter. I'm from a beauty of extraordinary.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yes, it's precious. Mario, I want to thank you for this conversation. Fantastic. Tenerate
Starting point is 00:24:22 here in sanamente, that you go very well here in Chile. We're going to have you back. Much thanks. Oh, ha, this podcast you have liked and
Starting point is 00:24:34 could be able to a inspiration to the hour to display and make flource your real real potential.

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