Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - ¿Cómo transformar el estrés?

Episode Date: October 29, 2023

“Todo ser humano si se lo propone puede ser escultor de su propio cerebro” - Ortega y GassetEn esta entrevista para Fundación Mutua con Cristina Acebal, hablaremos sobre uno de los trastornos que más afectan a nuestra sociedad y que más presente está en nuestra sociedad: el ESTRÉS¿Qué hay en el origen de la enfermedad? ¿Qué podemos hacer?  ¿Cómo podemos evitar que se cronifique?¿Que poder tiene la conexión humana y con la naturaleza y con uno mismo en este sentido?¿Qué sucede cuando estamos ilusionados? ¿Y cuando estamos asustados?Recuerda: “somos co-creadores de nuestra propia realidad”Ojalá este podcast te haya gustado y pueda convertirse en una inspiración a la hora de despertar y florecer tu verdadero potencial.Página Web:  https://marioalonsopuig.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marioalonsopuig/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@MarioAlonsoPuigOficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarioAlonsoPuigOficial

Persons that are usually in distress, in burnout, are people that are people that are that are not have to be able to burn neurons. This is a podcast

for all those those people that want to think in great, and living in great. I'm the doctor Mario Alonso Puch I'm going to

this adventure of discovery and the discovery and growth personal. Only, maybe he'd

but we'll get much more much more much more very much good, good,

how are you how much how much? I want to ask you I'm really if you're really that

the stress in their just a measure can be good but that if we

we're we're aterrower the effects well the person that really really

no the impact of the stress in human was professor Austrian Hanseli. He studied in the University

Alemann of Prague and he left all his career of investigator in the university Magill in Canada. So he distinguished perfectly two types of stress. One of them is necessary in the life, to grow, to

make, to develop and to evolutionar. Who doesn't need a stimulus to advance, to go to learn things new, to do face to new

retos or new the new different different form of stress to the other form of that's

the, the, the, that has to with the condimentation of the food, and it's certain that

the distress, the stress negative, is very very dangerous for the three dimensions, the dimension

of the body, the of the mind and the dimension animic. According the

the Ministry of Sanidad, 2.5 millions of people, the Spaniolitical, and antidepressives

a diary. What we do we can do you do not not necessary those anxiolitics

because we've been more stressed than never me it's

well in medicine there's a word a little word that's about

etiology that's the origin of the problem we can we can't the

symptoms we can try the sign of a thing but but

for to terminate to eliminate an disease we

need we know the the origin of that

obviously those anxioly those antidepress are the symptoms

and the signs, a person who is with an anxiety chronic, constantly preoccupated for the past, for what can succeed, or a person who is deprimed, being the aspect of the dark of the life, ancillit, with an antipersim, but what is it? But what is in the origin? From my point of view, in the origin, there are two things.

First, the deshumanization brutal of the society. I mean, not we're not as we're not as a human, with that dignity, with that respect that that corresponds to our dignity as a man. And in second, from my point of view of the point of view of the

existence, understanding for dimension spiritual, a sense of transcendence, is that is it the volunted to reconnecting with us to a level profound,

the volunted to connect with the other, reconnocing to the diversity, but in the other to tolerate it or

confront us to the diversity, celebrating it. And in third place, is the connection, the

encounter with the naturalness, with our mother, the naturalness, is that is not sometienting to our capricions, nor our ambitions and our varicias, if we're respecting it, so if we're we're taking that dimension more human, if we're just to try and more carey, with more serkenies, if we could

listen more, if we're really we'd enter in the silence, learn to center us, to start from the barue mental, if we'd amiming a little more naturalness, to enjoy what is a a walk for the camp, for a bush,

front of the sea, we need to be insoly non-precious. Yes, without. Since no, a good. Yes, now

it's been very new to do excursions to have to have arborers. Really, you think this is a moda pass

pasager, or this of about the contact direct with the naturalness, has a impact really in

your state emotional? Yes, we're, let's see, Now, from the Sabidurian is that the

human has has been a experimented three disconnections, the last that's the disconnection with one of the

disconnection with the other and the disconnection with the world. Is that a way, to recuperate

the feeling of unidad is precious in the human. So, when you

connectas with you yourself, probably you know, when you reconnects with the other

that you want to natural life, you'd like to have a natural the naturalness? Well, the arboretes represent an

part precious nature. If we're we're not we're not we're not an element symbolical, that

represents that the desire to recuperate the sensation of unidad, me seems a great, I've been

done it's a very much. You're going you're doing. There's a brazen, there's a Mario,

there's a sorry, there, there, there, a tree, a, a, a

a tejo in in England that has more than 2,000 years and he's a few

many times there's a and for suppose he has that he noticed after that

after that after you there is something? Well, let us see, the

human wants to get to the facet intellectual and I think

there are things very things are sensations that desacian

the and for suppose that not sensations For suppose that I, when I think in that tejo, when I think in something there distant,

a tree that no has nothing to be with me. I think in something that, being distinct to me, not so distant. But there's a moment that neither abrazer arborers, nor the contact with the naturalness, or not, my influence, and tal, us has sufficient impact on our emotions as to not sorenific the stress. There is something?

We can't give some advice before before that's chronifices palier

it? Let's a see a person care of your dimension

physical. If a person a mental and a mind and

it has to make to make to make to be to think

that's that we're to think if I do I'm

don't a long of the day to enter in

silence to to to do exercise, if no I do care, if I don't have relations of quality,

I don't establishes unethical those, the truth is that it's rare that that is

under the stress. What we have to have to think it's a thing that's

important. The circumstances pes and the difficulties that we're reales.

We can not know them, we cannot be not even the power that has the

encounter with other human with nature, with one myself, in the transformation

of the conditions internal. And the conditions internal, if they're to be in

the circumstances. What what happens in our others, she looks his expression out of

us. So we have to be very cautous and not consider that we're

simply victims of the circumstances, but we're co-creators of

the reality. And that has to get to have to the joy, of illusion, and of confidence. So, then we'll take into serious, the

of the care of the mind, the care of the soul. But then again, the area, the amyto-laboral, which is the that we're going to enter now, and the encuests say that the 73% of the Spanish-trafficers are stressed.

We can't give some tip for that during our own job, when we're working, that is that you've got to, your jefe, you have to chaffed the bronca, or not is to do what you have done,

us enter that anxiety, that stress, that we're not able to uncapaces of things. Some tip of this is so rapid to say, Vena, do you? You'll see, you, how you'll go to

your grade of stress in a form immediate. Let's see. The situation of burnout is a situation generalized. So, not is that we can't come

the burnout. It's that we're there. A part very important in the population is down in burnout or can

be in burnout. The situation is to be a quack But, the fact, the phase burnout, the professor Hanselis, has put it in mode now, but he has described

it for many years. So, what is what you can do in a situation of burnout? First, describe us the burnout. Burnout is a situation in which one person is a

level physical, a level mental, and at level animical. What is experimenting at level physical? Agotamint. Abotamint, mala,

health, insomnia, that's experimenting at level mental, irritability, tendency to isolation, a

illusion for the things, a commitment to do you, what's a level un-connected

with the life, a fault of interest for the life. So, these

things are all three different at a individual, second, a level

collective, and third, a individual. For that a person out, has to be

disposed to take to seriously, pass from the quadrant of burnout to the quadrant to recuperation or

renovation. No, it can pass directly to the high rendiment if before it is a

return. And that has to take to be in serious, the care of the

care of the mind, and the mind of the mind and the mind

there's not a thing difficult to find. That a

level collective. We have to be conscious of to how point when a person is a menaceated for the juicio, for what can be pass, for if

me going to to be done to, when a person is a manned when a person never can't do the better if she is scared

so that all we can't get anorn amables in tors where the persons not be constantly

vigilated where the people are the people are the and at the level structural that we can to make the

structures. There are there are structures today that are doing doing much no

doesn't that one does not every day in their office at the at the

11 at the the night if it has done so has done

before or that has to have to have to all the time preparing

things one one is doing occasionally because there is

a other and other other to It has the because if is changing the structure

or is trying to change the structure of the structure of the system for the people who need to be in

this sense? Because it's starting to talk of the embergature of the pathology mental that

today if not it's not it's not that it's clear that we can do it, that we can't

do it's in the dispperance or the impotence or think, illusorially that someone

do you do every one we have to take our parcel of responsibility to start to do things.

There's a part of apart of to do you, there are some that they're doing the companies or the employers

to come to reme a favor of their employees? Yes. Now, I'd make a

distinction. So, can't be the people are those employees as that many

directors and directives are they're going on levels

of pressure tremendous. This not are, not those of the of the

simply dominantly dominantly to the bottom it's a process that affect

to make to make a much people in the different different levels

of a organization so that that many times

for being the employer as as the employee

so what so they can do do do

do many there there there there a that

has done before the A Jornada Laboral has has been ableitado a space for that

the people that want to practice during 10 minutes and start to start to start. And it's

massive the number of persons that there are companies that are offering options much more

more more more easier. There are companies that have decided

that at certain time now not there's in the office

there. There is a medition that that is the rendiment has subied, that's more than are more

you can medice? The grade of the degree of or not? No. It's an

appreciation. No, no. No, no. We're going to have two types of meditions that can do when

we're doing when we're being start. There's a medition that is a medication purament

is a thing, you do you do you do a test to a person and you say

how you you're you're a bit there has a And you say, what's called Qali, is the experience internal.

A lot of it. How is it going to be valorous? If a person meditating is better, because no is to valor that. But then there are other type of meditions. It can mediate from levels of cortisol, from the tension arterial, levels of the sugar,

I mean, tons of things that have with the syndrome of burnout. And, for sure, that's but how not it's going to be? This is you've been investigating a lot of years. But is that today, And, also, what we know is that not only this

care of the care of the health physical and mental of a person, is that affect the results. If it's that has demonstrated that a person when is not sure that when is motivated, is a person that rende much more. And that when a person is astustada, is it full of anxiety or has perided the hope.

It's block. No, that's it's that's that's there's technology

in what is that is a neurociencia affective that can't make

with cameras very sophisticated how really the connection between the

world emotional and the world intellectual is a reality innegable

the person illusioned is a person that is a person

dismotiv has less, is more has been demonstrated for example

and this is a data, brutal, that persons that are usually in

distress, in burnout, are people that are people who are people who don't have to have

neurons. And you know, it's possible that's it's not because when there's distress or a

expression is the burnout, the word scientific is distress, the word more popular is

burnout, there's a liberation of a hormone in the the blood, that I've been talking

a lot of years, it's called the cortisol. But is that also the levels

of a neurotransmissor of a substance cerebral, a messenger a neurotransmissor

excitator that's called the glutamato. The combination in the cerebr of

levels of cortisol and levels of glutamato has that enter massively

calcium in the cell nerve in the neuron, and that

entry massive of calcium, active, fifted, what I'm going to to say, active the gen of the hypoposis,

is that, the gen of the suicide cellular, until how much the

mental and the affective, and the affective, and the same that that

chronicicidad in the stress, that distress that has been burnout, destroy the population

neuronal, too, and this, the first that was the first was, it, was a

is that when a person is a person is not a person is a motivation, there's a cellular in the brain in the brain

that's a person is a person is a more intelligent more more creative more

but needs that's stimulus needs that illusion that passion that enthusiasm for that

the grand Cajal because that would have to be a museum for Don

San Diego Ramon and Cajal said all said to all no, is that I can't do not, no, if he's

he's a sculptor of his own own cerebral. In that moment, thought that Cajal had metaphorically, Cajal, intuia something that no could show with the technology. Today, the neuroplasticity is a fact.

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