Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - Comunicar asertivamente
Episode Date: March 19, 2024La comunicación es un tema que todo el mundo sabe que es importante pero que muy pocos le prestan de verdad atención. Solemos prestar mucha atención al regalo pero muy poca atención al envoltorio.... Es importante el “contenido”, el “valor” de lo que contamos y ofrecemos, pero es igual de importante el “continente”, el “envoltorio” de eso que comunicamos, y habitualmente se nos olvida. En este episodio profundizaremos sobre la importancia de cómo comunicar de una manera más asertiva y verdadera. Ojalá este podcast te haya gustado y pueda convertirse en una inspiración a la hora de despertar y florecer tu verdadero potencial. Página Web: https://marioalonsopuig.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marioalonsopuig/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@MarioAlonsoPuigOficial Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarioAlonsoPuigOficial
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We think that
that we're
talking is
communicate
and we
we're
we're
we're
that after
a time
with a
person
of the
sense
that we
know
there's
that there
can't
communicate
much,
and there
people who
can't
not communicate
nothing,
because
communicate
is
getting.
Not
it's
part-
it,
is getting.
This is
a podcast
for
those
people
that
want to
think
in
and to live in great.
I'm the doctor Mary Alonso Puch,
I'm invite to live with me
this adventure of
this adventure of
this adventure
and it's
maybe I'll get
before,
but together
we'll get us
much more
more much more
very much.
What we're
to do together
we're going to
do a voyage,
we're going to
see us the sensation that
I'm a
communication is the
patito feo.
All the world,
of some way,
that is,
that's good,
but many
people are
paying
to really
attention.
And many
times this
generates a
sensation
curious,
like saying,
well,
if really
is so
important
because
no there
more
people
formandos
or
interest
in the
topic
and
you're
to tell
a story
that I
live
that
is going
to serve
like
a
metaphor.
It
has
in
to be, nothing with the communication, but also
also has to be everything.
When we've heard, I've,
I've heard this morning, to the ponents
magnifices that have been here,
all had a realignal for us,
really, things interesting that we
can apply to our life.
Some are more applicable, others
less, but all they're with their
regal.
We're present much attention to the
and very poor attention to the
envoltory.
I've seen sessions in those that persons with an immense
regal have put 40 PowerPoints
before the audience, the people
was falling a pedasos, and
they'd. The regal was good, yeah,
they'd say things super-interessants, but the
envoltorio not was the adequate.
I want to talk about the
emboldtorio. Why the emboldtore? Because the
the regal, you know, it's that you're going to
it, is that it's that you're allys.
all those who are you
all are you
all are you
all you're a
whole
but as a
life
the real
the realalos
have been
very
envueltos
because
we're commetem
a grave
error
we think
that
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
that after
a time
with a
person
of the
sensation
that
we're
not
this
this is
we're
we're
we're
we're
possible
because
we've
have been, not we've
communicated.
You know, you know,
you know, you know,
perfectly that there's
people who
can't
communicate much.
And there's
people who
don't communicate
nothing, because
communicate is
getting.
Not is
part, it
is getting.
And for
to get in
count a
series of
things.
Because if
not,
it's a
partir,
and,
and,
and not
to get,
is to
talk,
but not
is
to communicate.
So,
I want to put, for your reflection,
some of the great difficulties that we have to communicate.
Some of the great difficulties that all experience as
as humans,
to be able to access the mind and the heart of the other person.
The first is that the communication authentic
is extraordinarily complex
by our condition
human.
There's a part
of the condition
human that
that makes
that we
cost much
to look
to look at
the other.
Intentar
connect with
the other.
It's totally
enfocated
in ourselves
and for
so we
don't
we're
we're
we're
sometimes we
we're
we're
we're
a carcany
you
and in a
second everyone
looks a
space.
I don't
say we
make a
mollion
but you know
every one
buss
a space
as a
distance
and there
a part
that is
logical,
and there
other part
that is
like the
prevention
and the
other
person.
And this
not
we're not
we
we're doing
we're
doing
so
the
characteristic
the
difference
of
the
child
the
the
No, it's not in other
place,
it's a
there.
But the
adult has a
good at a
good at
a car
put in the
way to get a
Kamboya.
The car
to have.
But,
the fact,
you know,
you know,
is that's
like,
you know,
his eyes
and it's
like
peridid
and this
no I'm
to think
in the
other.
Gandhi
when
when you
know,
when you
know,
you
don't you
don't know
to
you know
to
one in
the
past
he had
to have
had to
have
in the future, tarara, that I'll
do it, and not in the present.
So we'll end up. This is one of
the difficulties, and for that
when one knows
and he can't know
that's going, but also can't
be able. It's like the meditation. I practice much
a lot of this. I mean, it's
a me not, because, of me, it's not, because,
I, I, call, I, every two, porth,
I have, I think, I'm
in a session of mindfulness of one hour, I can have
150 pensions.
I think of the tuye? I mean, I'm,
so,
sure,
but in
when I know
that I'm
going to
go and so
is the
exercise
to go
to get,
you
get to
and get
and you
know,
you're
you're
to get
to be
because
the
presence
is what
you
can't
get
the
things.
The
presence
is what
to
connect with
the
people
and
you're
there.
You're
you're
there.
So,
that's
is the
first
that we
have
the second
is
that
is that
the
time.
It's
It's a time.
And as a time,
we have to give time
to process it.
The most valioso
when you buy you
do you know,
it's the moment
in the you
is the moment
in which you
you're paris.
Because you're
reflecting on what
you've been
going to
do you?
So,
what is the
same is the
communication.
In the
person
that is,
as in this case I,
transmitting us a message,
has to leave a space
because your potentismas
minds are trying
from your experience,
of your experiences,
and are they being
it with the messages
and signallandos
a way,
a guide,
a reference to
see.
If she's
very deprises,
over all in
terrains,
one is
not for
fault of
intelligence
but for
for a
silence,
there's
a
thing that's
the music, and
we've seen
an example
of a
musical
a musical
here,
who has
delighted to
many people
for not
to say
to
the
music,
clear
that
are the
notas,
but I
in one
one
I
question,
I'm
a
grand pianist
what
was
the
secret
of
the
people
the
and
me
he said
that
dominable
the
space
between the notes.
The space
between the notes is the
silence.
It's curious
how where
where no
there is
something
the most
important
to generate
something
where is
all.
For that
the
things
of silence
have
many
advantages
and
also
they
can
connect
and
help
to
reflection. It's that,
the proper silence
calmer to
orator. When you
guard your space and silence, you can
respirate in a form more profound.
When you're in a form more profound, you're
more tranquil. You're more
tranquil. Third
number, not only is
important that what he's
important that you're going to
immediately captains' attention.
But for that you maintain the attention,
it has to be relevant. The difference
interesting and relevant is very
It's very easy. Relevant is
that you see
that interests a your
life. That mark a difference
in your life. For example,
I me like much the theme of the space.
Me interest. I'm interested.
My interest the
supernova, the
space, but my life is
relevant.
It's not relevant.
But to me,
all what has to be
with the condition
human,
venga, come to the
anthropology,
venga, of the biochemistry,
vena, of the philosophy,
come, from where it's
interesting, not only is interesting,
but it's relevant because
I'm incorporating in my life.
For that is important
to understand to the audience.
Saber, for example,
that you're not going to
want to advance
as communicators.
You're going to
want to be
to any forum.
Not venice
to any foreo.
Venis,
you're with your
inquetudes,
with your illusions,
with your doubts,
with your
luchas
internas, but all those who are
we're here in this forum,
what we want to
is to make our capacity
to communicate.
So,
knowing that,
you can adapt
the message
to those people
that are
that people who
come to talk
of that you're
to talk.
And there's
one thing
important.
I think
much in the
importance of
to stimulate,
for example,
me seems
a certain
these premiums,
I think
very important
to recognize
that all those
who have
put in front
what have been
been quite
to have been
to generate
rivalry.
For example,
imagine
you have been
a space
of a
space
scarce,
but imagine
us that the
orator
that has
been
that I've
been
that I'm
a colossal
just in
this
space where
there's
there
there had
there been
there
had been
there
been
a
You have passed in grand, you've
been, you've been emotional, have you
have you've got to have you, the pera.
And I'm going to, and
clear, what is what
the ego human?
The ego human
wants that me is constantly
comparating.
And, yeah, I go to
be better than him
because how they're going to
applauded less than
him, how they're going to
like less than he?
Entro in rivalry.
I've got to
the focus.
Because the important
not is who
is the best
ponente,
but how
it gets
a
one
a person
in a
moment
of a
moment of the
for those
and those
that you
have been
in a
moment where
you have
to have
to get
to
have
heard
the
conference
about the
conference
about the
other
to the
other,
to the
you
know
narrator
the
you
experiential
or
to get
the
zone
of the
comfort, the
uncertainty
this is
what
I'm, what is in what has to be
centered on an orator?
Or, yeah, have been
a person more than I.
No, it's not
I'm here to looker
with him and be better with him
or be better than
her, I'm here,
I'm here to serve
to my audience,
to keep thinking
in my audience.
No, I can't
lose the focus,
no I can't
enter in a world of
rivalidad,
because then I'm
to serve
I'm obsession
with my
recompense
to be at the
altitude of
other person
and I
know
for what
I'm here
that is to
serve to
an audience
that's
attention
and this
is very
in a
occasion I
was to
give a
conference
I
always
I'm
never
I'm
and I
never
to do
my
life
because I
think
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
kind of
of
kind of
of fear. So, that not is the nerviosism that I'm a nervousism that I
do. It was a sort of, it's a sort of fear. And I said, why?
You know, because because me was focusing on me, not in my audience. And when I
said, Mario, for what are you here? I'm here, I'm sorry. In that moment, it's
disappeared for complete of fear. But it was immediate. And when you've lived, and
you have experience direct, you know, no, you have to tell you, not you have to
to think you've got.
You've got to do.
Another thing.
Look, when you
planties
to transmit
something,
first to
be interesting,
not is
not really,
as it
in the
talk,
not that
the attention
good,
a
minute, and
that's not
so it's
interesting.
It has been to have a point of mystery, of enigma, of provocation,
of question, of interaction.
It has to be a goodemone.
It's interesting.
And all, and you all, you know,
you know,
things interesting-simmest,
to share.
Interesting-sum.
I've been with a lot of frequency
out of Spain, part, me invite, as well as,
for a conference, and other parts,
I'm going with great or with persons
that for me are references,
especially in the camp of the science
to pass with them,
and there are some of the other
when I've got the vogue of the world,
I've learned more,
of this genie who has been
to visit, that has been marvellous
or of one of my companions,
and I've learned one of my companions
because I did a comment that
that was just what I needed to
listen.
So, first, interesting,
Interesting. The second,
to look that
is a simple.
Let's see.
If something
you know,
if something
you know,
me understandies.
There are
people who
want to present
what is
the dark
like
is a
my is very
profound.
The audience
not has
not
not is my
level?
I have
no,
I'm
no,
pardon me
no,
you know
it's
not you
it's
is obscure. No me
you know, I'm
a good end up
profound.
I studied
during two
years a
master of
philosophy and
humanities
in general.
There are
philosophers
that
start to
learn those
and I
don't
understand
that passion.
I say,
I've
I've got
understood
nothing.
No
I can't
be so
torpe.
No
is possible.
So,
the
simple
is the simple, is that
you're trying the content,
thinking that
all the world can understand
it, even
a little of seven years.
To do you,
if not is
a simple,
it's not
it's got
engaged.
For suppose,
that it's
that be a
something that
you can use
your audience,
that you
can't serve
in their
life,
to be with
more
illusion,
with more
more
health,
and from
that's
that's useful.
Util
in
in what they and they elizant,
Util.
This is what?
What's it?
Pan?
Pana.
So, for that I'm here?
Pan.
So, I understand that
that's being
looking the stars,
the mar,
a mountain,
it seems that not
but it's for
all.
But when you
does a conference,
when you
present that
you present that
you
you are you to
focus it for that
they can't
use one
two things
that can
apply in their
we're going to
talk to one of the
most important
is communication
and intention
what is
your
real intention
when you
when you
do you
doves
at the strad
when you
you're
about
about one
with one
what is your
realer intention
is that
these
things
I think
I think it's
interesting
reflect
because you
can do
light and
you can
see
what
normally
Let's see one of the best communicators of the history.
Winston Churchill.
One of the best communicators of the history because was capable of
to get to the people Britannical in one of the moments
more difficult of its history.
The Battle of Inletar.
Winston Churchill said that the virtue or the quality
most important that existed was the capacity to communicate.
It was he.
But, look, what curious, what he said also.
all
all
are
important
but nobody
want to
noty
is that
all you
have been
with the
focus
where you
you're
your
energy
your
your
passion
your
enthusiasm
what
what
means
it
that
we're
that
we're
not
we're
not
not
we're
not
the
if
reflect
the
care
the
cari
But if our focus is the applause,
we're our plows, we're going to the people.
Pergreens the people.
So, the applause no put in to be
to pilot, could be copilot, but not of pilot.
Because if it's to pilot, I what I want
is impressionar to obtain an applause.
If it's co-pilot,
of course, I like the applause.
Like to all the world.
But not is what I do my communication.
Not is what it is my life.
And this is important, because if this is so, if really your focus is in the audience,
you're with the audience, you're with the audience, you're in the audience, and you're
for the audience, and this is when to you, the people, you import.
When those valorous and when, even if you've never known before,
those
you're
and when
a
human
that other
person
that
they're
in it
and she
and he
and it
is a
more
does it
or not
pass
it
surge
so
it
commu
the
intellect
not
the intellect
no
the intellect no
doesn't
the
knowledge
the
self
there is
there is
something
there is a
important
We're going to talk of communication and discovery,
because we're putting in value, the emboldtorial, the communication.
Not is a simple paper, is what it makes that you abras or no, the regal.
Communication and discovery, we have the obsession of
to
create that
our
own
our
and our
sense,
of our
things,
that are
but not
mark all the
thing,
in the
book
the
principal, the
prince-
the
son-and-
the
sorrow,
the
he
when he
comes,
when the
little
prince,
he says
only
the
little
the
little
he's
the
intellect,
but the
person,
but the
the
heart, the
So what is it is fundamental that
that all us develop a form of
that we're going to look at the most,
not only in how they manifest,
but in how are in their interior,
that appelles to that grandeza that there in all the
human, that not you're not saying,
that you're not you're trying to get,
that you're trying to get to that
you know that is there.
And this is very important
because when you don't
you fix as
much in the performance
and if you
see you fix more
in the potential,
they're going to
pass things
curious.
One of the
people have
known, I've done
many times
the sutures
of Carrel,
Alexis Carrel,
gan a premium
Nobel in
1912, the
year that
was unded the
year that
this man
syrujano
vascular,
revolutioned,
revolutioned
for
introduction to the techniques of
the surgical,
he said a phrase
that has
never had
forgotten.
The realities
that
not can
not be
not even
are more
important
than the
that is
the
communication.
The communication
not can
be
notar and medir
if
can be
the decibelious
with
the
the
movement
of my
car
and
can be
a lot
of things
of the
frequency
tonal
but what
what's
in both
and you're
that's
what's the
most important
that's not
so not
so it's too
for Alexis
Carrrell
one of the
most
grand
cirruhanos
that the
world is
that
that's
important
that's
that
the
communication
the
the
that's
easy
to
make
to
that
that's
that
that's
not
so you
because it's
much more
in the camp in the communication. Because I know that's
to be a strad or
explicate something to a public, even if it's a group
in your office, in your work, in a visit commercial,
I know that this generates inquietude. Naturally,
and the general, certainly, unfortunately, no
import the quantity of the times that you go to the
scenario. And I think that there are various
things to say, no.
Well, you'll see if we know
some of our lives, we know,
some of us,
we'll never say to others.
So, the no
you have to be a
a-of-you-a-k
to say no
to say-you-created.
And I think in communication
there are various
nos that
we have to
know,
because are
nos,
that if we
know we're going
to help
to help
our capacity
as communicators.
The first no
is,
no, is, no
busks
certainzas.
not subas
you're going to
the people
you're going to
that the people
you're going to
I need to
because if you're
a role
where is my
friend
Fernando
Fernando
no looks
certainces
for that's
someone
that's a man
so
that's a
very important
so valioso
as a
person
because if
you're a
moment
I'm going to
have to
have to
have to
have to
then you
don't be
you
don't
you
don't busks
certain
businesses,
and you're in a
opportunity
of the
way that if in a moment
you're
a time
to be a
public,
to be able
to tell
something in
your office
in your
work, in
your
family,
in that
moment,
look the
opportunity,
it's my
without
not
the security
absolute,
the certainty
that's going
to be
all right,
we're
all
day.
So, no
you obsessions with a certainty
and less in a world
so changeante.
If you look opportunities,
your mind
function a rhythm
completely different.
In second
not juggles
every day
for the
the seeds that
you're going
for the
seeds that
some of those
who are you
who are you
who are
who have you
have received
a premium.
To those
you have
heard,
to you,
to have
heard you,
I've heard,
to you,
I've heard
because
not yet,
time. Well, I'll say one
something, it's
a sumoment gratificante
that they're
a premium.
Now, I'll
you know, to
those who have
received a premium and
those who have
received a premium,
I'll say the
I'll do
the heart.
All we've
received fosches
because all
we've received
applause and
the audience.
Others,
we've had
the fortune
of that
we've done
a premium.
But the
important is that
all,
since exception,
today,
have you planted
semillas,
that will
to help
other
of the human. There's all.
There's all.
There's a
person that
went to
the desert,
a beduino,
and he
had been
in the
desert,
a lot of
asphyxient,
she had
had to have
to have the
food,
and I've
had a
time, I
know,
at a
certain
distance,
there,
see what
is an
oasis.
With
his dromedary
he's a
galopar
to get
to gopire
to
get to
that
as it,
it's a
and effectively
not is an
spegism,
it's an oasis.
An oasis
full of palmeras
with jugosos
d'atiles.
Then,
the gill
he'll
the water,
and he
to be
to do mediar
also,
and he
to come
of those
d'adiles,
and when
he's saceo,
he
caught in the
count of
that there
was a
man,
he was
was doing
surcos
in the
soil.
And he
he said,
Anciano,
What
You do?
He says,
I'm preparing the
earth
to plant
semillas
that generate
palmeras
productoras
didatiles
and he
he looks
with a
gesture of
superiority
he said
but
anciano
how
you know
you know
when
the
palmeras
creak
you
you'll
have been
you
have been
And not you'll
you can't
and the
Anciano
said,
and the manned
that he
planted the
seeds,
that were
to get
to the palm
as,
not I'm
the life is
that you.
Sembrators
of illusion,
sembrators
of
a verand
and
sembrators
of a
thing,
that not we
know,
that's important,
that go to
gopilot,
that we
know,
that we
know,
a precious,
of what
we've done
naturally,
that if
And, of course, we
that we love the applause, but that's the copilot,
that the pilot is to plantar
someas, somellas of inspiration,
semias of aligree,
semias of passion,
semillas of compassion,
semillas of escuch,
semillas of valoration.
And then,
your day
will have valid the pen.
And that depends
to you.
That's not depend
the circumstances.
Depend to how you
want to live every day.
Then, and
yeah, and the last
no,
Yerra the Agila,
that in his intents
of the vuel,
but not that other that never
he attempted.
Look, in Spain,
the fracassos
is a
form absurd.
Absurd.
I, one of the
many of the
investigators of the MIT,
Institute of Technological
in Massachusetts,
in Cambridge, in front of Boston.
We were
being a good
talking, we were
talking a rathoment on
and I said
And me, he said, to me impression, the talent that there
here, but how that talent is annuled,
for the form in that that he's valor the fracass.
In the States, we're, it's
that we're not normal, because the fracassos is a
point that's a new a certain, an apprenticeship that
you have, and another that you have to.
Here, it seems that it's a form very personal.
So one can say, is that the culture is so.
And what you can do you
to change it?
Well, you can't
with you know,
when you commit a error
in the other
to say,
you're saying,
you can say,
only the valiantes
prove things
different.
Firt is the
that no cae,
more is the
is the
and it's,
and you
can't do
the matter
and then you
can't be
the
so you're
that's a
thing,
that's a
question,
and that we're
going to
try to
make sure that
we're
to put
nervous,
and there
there are
things that
that not
will be very, but if it's that
the best in the
world that are in these
camps, some of the ones who are those
which I know.
They've passed this during
montones of years.
But that
peldaño, it's used
not as a morrow,
but as frontera
to the next peldaio.
We'll learn of them.
Oh,hala, this podcast
you have liked
and could be
in an inspiration
to the hour
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