Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - Comunicar asertivamente

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

La comunicación es un tema que todo el mundo sabe que es importante pero que muy pocos le prestan de verdad atención. Solemos prestar mucha atención al regalo pero muy poca atención al envoltorio.... Es importante el “contenido”, el “valor” de lo que contamos y ofrecemos, pero es igual de importante el “continente”, el “envoltorio” de eso que comunicamos, y habitualmente se nos olvida. En este episodio profundizaremos sobre la importancia de cómo comunicar de una manera más asertiva y verdadera. Ojalá este podcast te haya gustado y pueda convertirse en una inspiración a la hora de despertar y florecer tu verdadero potencial.   Página Web: https://marioalonsopuig.com/   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marioalonsopuig/   Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@MarioAlonsoPuigOficial   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarioAlonsoPuigOficial

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Starting point is 00:00:04 We think that that we're talking is communicate and we we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:00:09 that after a time with a person of the sense that we know
Starting point is 00:00:12 there's that there can't communicate much, and there people who can't
Starting point is 00:00:20 not communicate nothing, because communicate is getting. Not it's
Starting point is 00:00:25 part- it, is getting. This is a podcast for those people
Starting point is 00:00:34 that want to think in and to live in great. I'm the doctor Mary Alonso Puch, I'm invite to live with me this adventure of
Starting point is 00:00:45 this adventure of this adventure and it's maybe I'll get before, but together we'll get us much more
Starting point is 00:00:54 more much more very much. What we're to do together we're going to do a voyage, we're going to see us the sensation that
Starting point is 00:01:08 I'm a communication is the patito feo. All the world, of some way, that is, that's good, but many
Starting point is 00:01:16 people are paying to really attention. And many times this generates a sensation
Starting point is 00:01:23 curious, like saying, well, if really is so important because no there
Starting point is 00:01:28 more people formandos or interest in the topic and
Starting point is 00:01:34 you're to tell a story that I live that is going to serve
Starting point is 00:01:37 like a metaphor. It has in to be, nothing with the communication, but also also has to be everything.
Starting point is 00:01:45 When we've heard, I've, I've heard this morning, to the ponents magnifices that have been here, all had a realignal for us, really, things interesting that we can apply to our life. Some are more applicable, others less, but all they're with their
Starting point is 00:02:01 regal. We're present much attention to the and very poor attention to the envoltory. I've seen sessions in those that persons with an immense regal have put 40 PowerPoints before the audience, the people was falling a pedasos, and
Starting point is 00:02:21 they'd. The regal was good, yeah, they'd say things super-interessants, but the envoltorio not was the adequate. I want to talk about the emboldtorio. Why the emboldtore? Because the the regal, you know, it's that you're going to it, is that it's that you're allys. all those who are you
Starting point is 00:02:40 all are you all are you all you're a whole but as a life the real the realalos
Starting point is 00:02:46 have been very envueltos because we're commetem a grave error we think
Starting point is 00:02:56 that we're we're we're we're we're that after a time
Starting point is 00:03:01 with a person of the sensation that we're not this
Starting point is 00:03:05 this is we're we're we're we're possible because we've
Starting point is 00:03:09 have been, not we've communicated. You know, you know, you know, you know, perfectly that there's people who can't communicate much.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And there's people who don't communicate nothing, because communicate is getting. Not is part, it
Starting point is 00:03:26 is getting. And for to get in count a series of things. Because if not,
Starting point is 00:03:32 it's a partir, and, and, and not to get, is to talk,
Starting point is 00:03:36 but not is to communicate. So, I want to put, for your reflection, some of the great difficulties that we have to communicate. Some of the great difficulties that all experience as as humans,
Starting point is 00:03:51 to be able to access the mind and the heart of the other person. The first is that the communication authentic is extraordinarily complex by our condition human. There's a part of the condition human that
Starting point is 00:04:17 that makes that we cost much to look to look at the other. Intentar connect with
Starting point is 00:04:25 the other. It's totally enfocated in ourselves and for so we don't we're
Starting point is 00:04:33 we're we're sometimes we we're we're we're a carcany you
Starting point is 00:04:40 and in a second everyone looks a space. I don't say we make a mollion
Starting point is 00:04:45 but you know every one buss a space as a distance and there a part
Starting point is 00:04:50 that is logical, and there other part that is like the prevention and the
Starting point is 00:04:55 other person. And this not we're not we we're doing we're
Starting point is 00:04:59 doing so the characteristic the difference of the
Starting point is 00:05:05 child the the No, it's not in other place, it's a there. But the
Starting point is 00:05:14 adult has a good at a good at a car put in the way to get a Kamboya. The car
Starting point is 00:05:19 to have. But, the fact, you know, you know, is that's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:24 his eyes and it's like peridid and this no I'm to think in the
Starting point is 00:05:29 other. Gandhi when when you know, when you know, you
Starting point is 00:05:33 don't you don't know to you know to one in the past
Starting point is 00:05:37 he had to have had to have in the future, tarara, that I'll do it, and not in the present. So we'll end up. This is one of the difficulties, and for that
Starting point is 00:05:51 when one knows and he can't know that's going, but also can't be able. It's like the meditation. I practice much a lot of this. I mean, it's a me not, because, of me, it's not, because, I, I, call, I, every two, porth, I have, I think, I'm
Starting point is 00:06:05 in a session of mindfulness of one hour, I can have 150 pensions. I think of the tuye? I mean, I'm, so, sure, but in when I know that I'm
Starting point is 00:06:13 going to go and so is the exercise to go to get, you get to
Starting point is 00:06:16 and get and you know, you're you're to get to be because
Starting point is 00:06:20 the presence is what you can't get the things.
Starting point is 00:06:24 The presence is what to connect with the people and
Starting point is 00:06:27 you're there. You're you're there. So, that's is the
Starting point is 00:06:32 first that we have the second is that is that the
Starting point is 00:06:36 time. It's It's a time. And as a time, we have to give time to process it. The most valioso when you buy you
Starting point is 00:06:49 do you know, it's the moment in the you is the moment in which you you're paris. Because you're reflecting on what
Starting point is 00:07:01 you've been going to do you? So, what is the same is the communication. In the
Starting point is 00:07:08 person that is, as in this case I, transmitting us a message, has to leave a space because your potentismas minds are trying from your experience,
Starting point is 00:07:24 of your experiences, and are they being it with the messages and signallandos a way, a guide, a reference to see.
Starting point is 00:07:35 If she's very deprises, over all in terrains, one is not for fault of intelligence
Starting point is 00:07:42 but for for a silence, there's a thing that's the music, and we've seen
Starting point is 00:07:51 an example of a musical a musical here, who has delighted to many people
Starting point is 00:07:58 for not to say to the music, clear that are the
Starting point is 00:08:01 notas, but I in one one I question, I'm a
Starting point is 00:08:05 grand pianist what was the secret of the people
Starting point is 00:08:08 the and me he said that dominable the space
Starting point is 00:08:11 between the notes. The space between the notes is the silence. It's curious how where where no there is
Starting point is 00:08:20 something the most important to generate something where is all. For that
Starting point is 00:08:30 the things of silence have many advantages and also
Starting point is 00:08:35 they can connect and help to reflection. It's that, the proper silence
Starting point is 00:08:43 calmer to orator. When you guard your space and silence, you can respirate in a form more profound. When you're in a form more profound, you're more tranquil. You're more tranquil. Third number, not only is
Starting point is 00:08:57 important that what he's important that you're going to immediately captains' attention. But for that you maintain the attention, it has to be relevant. The difference interesting and relevant is very It's very easy. Relevant is that you see
Starting point is 00:09:12 that interests a your life. That mark a difference in your life. For example, I me like much the theme of the space. Me interest. I'm interested. My interest the supernova, the space, but my life is
Starting point is 00:09:25 relevant. It's not relevant. But to me, all what has to be with the condition human, venga, come to the anthropology,
Starting point is 00:09:34 venga, of the biochemistry, vena, of the philosophy, come, from where it's interesting, not only is interesting, but it's relevant because I'm incorporating in my life. For that is important to understand to the audience.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Saber, for example, that you're not going to want to advance as communicators. You're going to want to be to any forum. Not venice
Starting point is 00:09:56 to any foreo. Venis, you're with your inquetudes, with your illusions, with your doubts, with your luchas
Starting point is 00:10:04 internas, but all those who are we're here in this forum, what we want to is to make our capacity to communicate. So, knowing that, you can adapt
Starting point is 00:10:16 the message to those people that are that people who come to talk of that you're to talk. And there's
Starting point is 00:10:24 one thing important. I think much in the importance of to stimulate, for example, me seems
Starting point is 00:10:32 a certain these premiums, I think very important to recognize that all those who have put in front
Starting point is 00:10:38 what have been been quite to have been to generate rivalry. For example, imagine you have been
Starting point is 00:10:47 a space of a space scarce, but imagine us that the orator that has
Starting point is 00:10:52 been that I've been that I'm a colossal just in this space where
Starting point is 00:10:57 there's there there had there been there had been there been
Starting point is 00:11:01 a You have passed in grand, you've been, you've been emotional, have you have you've got to have you, the pera. And I'm going to, and clear, what is what the ego human? The ego human
Starting point is 00:11:15 wants that me is constantly comparating. And, yeah, I go to be better than him because how they're going to applauded less than him, how they're going to like less than he?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Entro in rivalry. I've got to the focus. Because the important not is who is the best ponente, but how
Starting point is 00:11:31 it gets a one a person in a moment of a moment of the
Starting point is 00:11:37 for those and those that you have been in a moment where you have to have
Starting point is 00:11:41 to get to have heard the conference about the conference
Starting point is 00:11:51 about the other to the other, to the you know narrator
Starting point is 00:11:56 the you experiential or to get the zone of the
Starting point is 00:12:01 comfort, the uncertainty this is what I'm, what is in what has to be centered on an orator? Or, yeah, have been a person more than I.
Starting point is 00:12:10 No, it's not I'm here to looker with him and be better with him or be better than her, I'm here, I'm here to serve to my audience, to keep thinking
Starting point is 00:12:21 in my audience. No, I can't lose the focus, no I can't enter in a world of rivalidad, because then I'm to serve
Starting point is 00:12:30 I'm obsession with my recompense to be at the altitude of other person and I know
Starting point is 00:12:41 for what I'm here that is to serve to an audience that's attention and this
Starting point is 00:12:48 is very in a occasion I was to give a conference I always
Starting point is 00:12:52 I'm never I'm and I never to do my life
Starting point is 00:12:56 because I think I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:13:01 I'm kind of of kind of of fear. So, that not is the nerviosism that I'm a nervousism that I do. It was a sort of, it's a sort of fear. And I said, why? You know, because because me was focusing on me, not in my audience. And when I said, Mario, for what are you here? I'm here, I'm sorry. In that moment, it's
Starting point is 00:13:22 disappeared for complete of fear. But it was immediate. And when you've lived, and you have experience direct, you know, no, you have to tell you, not you have to to think you've got. You've got to do. Another thing. Look, when you planties to transmit
Starting point is 00:13:42 something, first to be interesting, not is not really, as it in the talk,
Starting point is 00:13:50 not that the attention good, a minute, and that's not so it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:14:01 It has been to have a point of mystery, of enigma, of provocation, of question, of interaction. It has to be a goodemone. It's interesting. And all, and you all, you know, you know, things interesting-simmest, to share.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Interesting-sum. I've been with a lot of frequency out of Spain, part, me invite, as well as, for a conference, and other parts, I'm going with great or with persons that for me are references, especially in the camp of the science to pass with them,
Starting point is 00:14:39 and there are some of the other when I've got the vogue of the world, I've learned more, of this genie who has been to visit, that has been marvellous or of one of my companions, and I've learned one of my companions because I did a comment that
Starting point is 00:14:51 that was just what I needed to listen. So, first, interesting, Interesting. The second, to look that is a simple. Let's see. If something
Starting point is 00:15:06 you know, if something you know, me understandies. There are people who want to present what is
Starting point is 00:15:14 the dark like is a my is very profound. The audience not has not
Starting point is 00:15:21 not is my level? I have no, I'm no, pardon me no,
Starting point is 00:15:28 you know it's not you it's is obscure. No me you know, I'm a good end up profound.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I studied during two years a master of philosophy and humanities in general. There are
Starting point is 00:15:39 philosophers that start to learn those and I don't understand that passion.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I say, I've I've got understood nothing. No I can't be so
Starting point is 00:15:53 torpe. No is possible. So, the simple is the simple, is that you're trying the content,
Starting point is 00:16:02 thinking that all the world can understand it, even a little of seven years. To do you, if not is a simple, it's not
Starting point is 00:16:10 it's got engaged. For suppose, that it's that be a something that you can use your audience,
Starting point is 00:16:20 that you can't serve in their life, to be with more illusion, with more
Starting point is 00:16:24 more health, and from that's that's useful. Util in in what they and they elizant,
Starting point is 00:16:33 Util. This is what? What's it? Pan? Pana. So, for that I'm here? Pan. So, I understand that
Starting point is 00:16:44 that's being looking the stars, the mar, a mountain, it seems that not but it's for all. But when you
Starting point is 00:16:53 does a conference, when you present that you present that you you are you to focus it for that they can't
Starting point is 00:17:01 use one two things that can apply in their we're going to talk to one of the most important is communication
Starting point is 00:17:11 and intention what is your real intention when you when you do you doves
Starting point is 00:17:17 at the strad when you you're about about one with one what is your realer intention
Starting point is 00:17:23 is that these things I think I think it's interesting reflect because you
Starting point is 00:17:27 can do light and you can see what normally Let's see one of the best communicators of the history. Winston Churchill.
Starting point is 00:17:38 One of the best communicators of the history because was capable of to get to the people Britannical in one of the moments more difficult of its history. The Battle of Inletar. Winston Churchill said that the virtue or the quality most important that existed was the capacity to communicate. It was he. But, look, what curious, what he said also.
Starting point is 00:18:00 all all are important but nobody want to noty is that
Starting point is 00:18:09 all you have been with the focus where you you're your energy
Starting point is 00:18:14 your your passion your enthusiasm what what means
Starting point is 00:18:18 it that we're that we're not we're not
Starting point is 00:18:21 not we're not the if reflect the care
Starting point is 00:18:25 the cari But if our focus is the applause, we're our plows, we're going to the people. Pergreens the people. So, the applause no put in to be to pilot, could be copilot, but not of pilot. Because if it's to pilot, I what I want
Starting point is 00:18:45 is impressionar to obtain an applause. If it's co-pilot, of course, I like the applause. Like to all the world. But not is what I do my communication. Not is what it is my life. And this is important, because if this is so, if really your focus is in the audience, you're with the audience, you're with the audience, you're in the audience, and you're
Starting point is 00:19:08 for the audience, and this is when to you, the people, you import. When those valorous and when, even if you've never known before, those you're and when a human that other
Starting point is 00:19:27 person that they're in it and she and he and it is a
Starting point is 00:19:34 more does it or not pass it surge so it
Starting point is 00:19:39 commu the intellect not the intellect no the intellect no doesn't
Starting point is 00:19:46 the knowledge the self there is there is something there is a
Starting point is 00:19:51 important We're going to talk of communication and discovery, because we're putting in value, the emboldtorial, the communication. Not is a simple paper, is what it makes that you abras or no, the regal. Communication and discovery, we have the obsession of to create that our
Starting point is 00:20:16 own our and our sense, of our things, that are but not
Starting point is 00:20:23 mark all the thing, in the book the principal, the prince- the
Starting point is 00:20:27 son-and- the sorrow, the he when he comes, when the
Starting point is 00:20:33 little prince, he says only the little the little
Starting point is 00:20:36 he's the intellect, but the person, but the the heart, the
Starting point is 00:20:42 So what is it is fundamental that that all us develop a form of that we're going to look at the most, not only in how they manifest, but in how are in their interior, that appelles to that grandeza that there in all the human, that not you're not saying, that you're not you're trying to get,
Starting point is 00:21:08 that you're trying to get to that you know that is there. And this is very important because when you don't you fix as much in the performance and if you see you fix more
Starting point is 00:21:19 in the potential, they're going to pass things curious. One of the people have known, I've done many times
Starting point is 00:21:28 the sutures of Carrel, Alexis Carrel, gan a premium Nobel in 1912, the year that was unded the
Starting point is 00:21:34 year that this man syrujano vascular, revolutioned, revolutioned for introduction to the techniques of
Starting point is 00:21:43 the surgical, he said a phrase that has never had forgotten. The realities that not can
Starting point is 00:21:53 not be not even are more important than the that is the communication.
Starting point is 00:22:03 The communication not can be notar and medir if can be the decibelious with
Starting point is 00:22:07 the the movement of my car and can be a lot
Starting point is 00:22:12 of things of the frequency tonal but what what's in both and you're
Starting point is 00:22:18 that's what's the most important that's not so not so it's too for Alexis Carrrell
Starting point is 00:22:25 one of the most grand cirruhanos that the world is that that's
Starting point is 00:22:29 important that's that the communication the the that's
Starting point is 00:22:34 easy to make to that that's that that's
Starting point is 00:22:37 not so you because it's much more in the camp in the communication. Because I know that's to be a strad or explicate something to a public, even if it's a group in your office, in your work, in a visit commercial,
Starting point is 00:22:59 I know that this generates inquietude. Naturally, and the general, certainly, unfortunately, no import the quantity of the times that you go to the scenario. And I think that there are various things to say, no. Well, you'll see if we know some of our lives, we know, some of us,
Starting point is 00:23:17 we'll never say to others. So, the no you have to be a a-of-you-a-k to say no to say-you-created. And I think in communication there are various
Starting point is 00:23:29 nos that we have to know, because are nos, that if we know we're going to help
Starting point is 00:23:35 to help our capacity as communicators. The first no is, no, is, no busks certainzas.
Starting point is 00:23:42 not subas you're going to the people you're going to that the people you're going to I need to because if you're
Starting point is 00:23:50 a role where is my friend Fernando Fernando no looks certainces for that's
Starting point is 00:23:58 someone that's a man so that's a very important so valioso as a person
Starting point is 00:24:02 because if you're a moment I'm going to have to have to have to have to
Starting point is 00:24:08 then you don't be you don't you don't busks certain businesses,
Starting point is 00:24:12 and you're in a opportunity of the way that if in a moment you're a time to be a public,
Starting point is 00:24:22 to be able to tell something in your office in your work, in your family,
Starting point is 00:24:28 in that moment, look the opportunity, it's my without not the security
Starting point is 00:24:37 absolute, the certainty that's going to be all right, we're all day.
Starting point is 00:24:41 So, no you obsessions with a certainty and less in a world so changeante. If you look opportunities, your mind function a rhythm completely different.
Starting point is 00:24:52 In second not juggles every day for the the seeds that you're going for the seeds that
Starting point is 00:24:58 some of those who are you who are you who are who have you have received a premium. To those
Starting point is 00:25:07 you have heard, to you, to have heard you, I've heard, to you, I've heard
Starting point is 00:25:11 because not yet, time. Well, I'll say one something, it's a sumoment gratificante that they're a premium. Now, I'll
Starting point is 00:25:21 you know, to those who have received a premium and those who have received a premium, I'll say the I'll do the heart.
Starting point is 00:25:30 All we've received fosches because all we've received applause and the audience. Others, we've had
Starting point is 00:25:36 the fortune of that we've done a premium. But the important is that all, since exception,
Starting point is 00:25:43 today, have you planted semillas, that will to help other of the human. There's all. There's all.
Starting point is 00:25:57 There's a person that went to the desert, a beduino, and he had been in the
Starting point is 00:26:05 desert, a lot of asphyxient, she had had to have to have the food, and I've
Starting point is 00:26:11 had a time, I know, at a certain distance, there, see what
Starting point is 00:26:17 is an oasis. With his dromedary he's a galopar to get to gopire
Starting point is 00:26:22 to get to that as it, it's a and effectively not is an spegism,
Starting point is 00:26:28 it's an oasis. An oasis full of palmeras with jugosos d'atiles. Then, the gill he'll
Starting point is 00:26:35 the water, and he to be to do mediar also, and he to come of those
Starting point is 00:26:40 d'adiles, and when he's saceo, he caught in the count of that there was a
Starting point is 00:26:46 man, he was was doing surcos in the soil. And he he said,
Starting point is 00:26:52 Anciano, What You do? He says, I'm preparing the earth to plant semillas
Starting point is 00:27:01 that generate palmeras productoras didatiles and he he looks with a gesture of
Starting point is 00:27:10 superiority he said but anciano how you know you know when
Starting point is 00:27:15 the palmeras creak you you'll have been you have been
Starting point is 00:27:22 And not you'll you can't and the Anciano said, and the manned that he planted the
Starting point is 00:27:28 seeds, that were to get to the palm as, not I'm the life is that you.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Sembrators of illusion, sembrators of a verand and sembrators of a
Starting point is 00:27:44 thing, that not we know, that's important, that go to gopilot, that we know,
Starting point is 00:27:48 that we know, a precious, of what we've done naturally, that if And, of course, we
Starting point is 00:27:54 that we love the applause, but that's the copilot, that the pilot is to plantar someas, somellas of inspiration, semias of aligree, semias of passion, semillas of compassion, semillas of escuch, semillas of valoration.
Starting point is 00:28:06 And then, your day will have valid the pen. And that depends to you. That's not depend the circumstances. Depend to how you
Starting point is 00:28:14 want to live every day. Then, and yeah, and the last no, Yerra the Agila, that in his intents of the vuel, but not that other that never
Starting point is 00:28:27 he attempted. Look, in Spain, the fracassos is a form absurd. Absurd. I, one of the many of the
Starting point is 00:28:42 investigators of the MIT, Institute of Technological in Massachusetts, in Cambridge, in front of Boston. We were being a good talking, we were talking a rathoment on
Starting point is 00:28:50 and I said And me, he said, to me impression, the talent that there here, but how that talent is annuled, for the form in that that he's valor the fracass. In the States, we're, it's that we're not normal, because the fracassos is a point that's a new a certain, an apprenticeship that you have, and another that you have to.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Here, it seems that it's a form very personal. So one can say, is that the culture is so. And what you can do you to change it? Well, you can't with you know, when you commit a error in the other
Starting point is 00:29:30 to say, you're saying, you can say, only the valiantes prove things different. Firt is the that no cae,
Starting point is 00:29:38 more is the is the and it's, and you can't do the matter and then you can't be
Starting point is 00:29:41 the so you're that's a thing, that's a question, and that we're going to
Starting point is 00:29:51 try to make sure that we're to put nervous, and there there are things that
Starting point is 00:29:55 that not will be very, but if it's that the best in the world that are in these camps, some of the ones who are those which I know. They've passed this during montones of years.
Starting point is 00:30:08 But that peldaño, it's used not as a morrow, but as frontera to the next peldaio. We'll learn of them. Oh,hala, this podcast you have liked
Starting point is 00:30:24 and could be in an inspiration to the hour to display and to make flource your veradero potential.

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