Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - Cuando te sientas solo, recuerda esto

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

¿Te has sentido solo alguna vez incluso estando rodeado de gente?Es una experiencia más frecuente de lo que parece. Y, sin embargo, pocas veces nos detenemos a comprender qué hay realmente detrás ...de esa sensación.En esta conversación con Laura, reflexionamos sobre la soledad no elegida. Esa que no tiene que ver con la ausencia de personas, sino con la ausencia de conexión, de comprensión, de esa sensación profunda de ser visto y reconocido.Muchas veces, cuando nos sentimos así, nuestra tendencia natural es aislarnos. Sin embargo, ese impulso, aunque comprensible, suele intensificar aún más la sensación de soledad.A lo largo de este encuentro con Laura, compartimos algunas ideas que pueden ayudarte a entender qué está ocurriendo en tu interior en esos momentos, y por qué, en ocasiones, un pequeño gesto hacia otra persona puede tener un impacto mucho mayor del que imaginamos.Ojalá estas reflexiones te inviten a comprender mejor lo que sientes y a abrir nuevas formas de conexión contigo mismo y con los demás.🎟️ Si estas reflexiones han resonado en ti, te invito a profundizar en ellas en la gira "Haz lo imposible". Será un espacio donde poder explorar juntos cómo transformar esos momentos de desconexión interna en oportunidades para comprenderte mejor y abrir nuevas posibilidades.Más información y entradas: https://marioalonsopuig.com/gira-2026…¡Suscríbete!MÁS INFORMACIÓN Y RECURSOS ÚTILES:📖 ⁠Libros⁠🎧 ⁠Accede a mi audionewsletter gratis⁠PÁGINA WEB Y REDES SOCIALES OFICIALES:🌐⁠⁠⁠Página Web⁠⁠⁠📷⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠▶️⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠📲⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💼⁠LinkedIn⁠𝕏 ⁠Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The major part of the times, the things, the only that we're is to be our own and the form initial
Starting point is 00:00:11 of sentiret caret is that someone. Not that you resolve to your problems, but that you're so
Starting point is 00:00:19 important that you pay attention? Because you don't presteries attention to
Starting point is 00:00:23 nothing that you considerate valios. Because in the moment in the you do
Starting point is 00:00:26 do you do To reduce the soledadown no-elected of other person, automatically, as if we're basos communicants, is reducing your own soledity. How can we help to the people to create group,
Starting point is 00:00:42 groups where they're sent an authentic, that can maintain their essence and that pertinence, that cessation of pertinence. How do we do, Mario? How do you? I am a person that the authenticity, I really, I'm very much.
Starting point is 00:01:00 So when I'm, I'm extrovertida, so I'm a little that facility, that's a ability social, that I like the people, me to get a certain, me to know and to understand. So, well, first I am I line with what are my interests, what I like, what I want to learn, of what I want to know more,
Starting point is 00:01:21 and then, contact people, groups, I'm parted metas, and I think that so is how I'm that connection. So, is how
Starting point is 00:01:30 I do do you do you do the of the thing? You have the sense of
Starting point is 00:01:34 that you do you know that not is possible to do you. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., in, in, in the that person is to be putting a barrier, no? So, I'm trying to ask
Starting point is 00:02:00 questions, abertas, I'm going to that a realtor that is the coaching, and I'm that there are persons that
Starting point is 00:02:09 that they not they'd like, it's obvious, it's evident, that it could pass. But normally,
Starting point is 00:02:17 no I'm sure that I'm that rechazz. You imagine that there people that seeent that rechazz,
Starting point is 00:02:25 and that are are alled as other people and a and a past of that they're
Starting point is 00:02:29 very solas. How you think you that are living those people
Starting point is 00:02:36 because because maybe in some you have seen in that you have been extrovertida
Starting point is 00:02:42 of that you're extraordinarily sympathetic that maybe there have been
Starting point is 00:02:46 situations in your life that we don't have to get in
Starting point is 00:02:48 in you to where you you really really solely
Starting point is 00:02:52 that that that soled not of of the absence of presence physical,
Starting point is 00:02:58 but of the absence of a presence emotional, absence of comprehension, of course of course of
Starting point is 00:03:05 that's that's a certainia and that's so in moments difficult. You have
Starting point is 00:03:12 seen a situation? Yes, and how is experimented that? Well, it's
Starting point is 00:03:17 experiment with a a vacuum, a PACEO Interior, that sensation of me has felt
Starting point is 00:03:24 to talk or communicate with someone without not being just getting that I'm that I'm
Starting point is 00:03:32 to have to have to be a situation dolorous. And I have seen my
Starting point is 00:03:38 own in my proper and, and, well, it's something difficult.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I mean, we're to have to accept, accept, not I mean, it means to say, resignar, it's to say, I'm a day, I go to the
Starting point is 00:03:52 day I'm resign, and it's, it's you're saying, is assume that there's days that's all, there's that you know, it's part of the life, no? The first thing we have to assume is that the sensation of soledadad. The soledity not-elected,
Starting point is 00:04:06 no, we refer we're, because in English, is solitude loneliness, but in Spanish, it no, one is the difference, no? One is the that you eligees, because you need to, of some manner
Starting point is 00:04:18 to distance you of the the entorn and start with
Starting point is 00:04:24 the soled no elected. The first we have to
Starting point is 00:04:29 know when we're when we experiment this is the
Starting point is 00:04:34 thing is what we do that this and
Starting point is 00:04:37 this I think is a message that is important
Starting point is 00:04:40 to transmit first what not to do is
Starting point is 00:04:43 to you have a great advantage a that, that not implica that,
Starting point is 00:04:49 that even so, that's it, that's a lot of things difficult, but if it's a advantage that you're extrovertida.
Starting point is 00:04:55 So, your tendency natural, your personality is much more at the encounter than the alhement, that's
Starting point is 00:05:03 but there's a tendency more introvertida and they cost a much more. So the first message is
Starting point is 00:05:09 that when a person is a single, the ultimate that has to do is to do it is to
Starting point is 00:05:15 be a Islars. And the reason is the next. It's a reason, fiftate, that is a
Starting point is 00:05:21 little mundana, because it's like tremendously physical, we're in a
Starting point is 00:05:24 very beautiful, so it's the world of the emotions to a place a
Starting point is 00:05:30 place, a place, when a person is a single,
Starting point is 00:05:34 it's active no clos cerebral that they're in that
Starting point is 00:05:36 people, So, and danger, , danger, and those parts of the brain are
Starting point is 00:05:41 invitae they're in an isolation because if you're in an environment not
Starting point is 00:05:46 you're to be to explore, what you have to do you do the contrary.
Starting point is 00:05:52 What we have to do is to do. What we do is to do
Starting point is 00:05:57 is to be to any person that in your environment that
Starting point is 00:06:03 you're a certain point of a certain point of comprehension, not for that you
Starting point is 00:06:07 know, simply to not to not get a present that's that I'm that I'm
Starting point is 00:06:14 that I'm very counterintuitive and it is a effort. In second place, assume that
Starting point is 00:06:20 are moments difficult. When one accept a situation, in the way to try to
Starting point is 00:06:27 try to attack because I don't me tend to feel like a chico favor,
Starting point is 00:06:33 because in the In the the front of, it's re-forcing the difficulty, is getting even more stress, because on, on, you know, you're still, you're still, and you're still as you're more,
Starting point is 00:06:43 and on, you see not you're a bit of pressure on, you addes more. Dime, what is, from your point of the relation between being authentic and to find the
Starting point is 00:06:58 persons to those that it's that it's worth a in the life. There, there are many, many persons in the We've got in that we don't we can't
Starting point is 00:07:06 we don't we can't like to us because if we pretend we to get us to get to us, we're going to us to get to ourselves. But what is, what is the
Starting point is 00:07:14 connection that you say, what is the connection that's to be who is, now I'm a great thing I'm not
Starting point is 00:07:22 don't have to be my tristencea. Now I'm still I'm not I'm don't know what
Starting point is 00:07:29 may be to live to who I'm to give to What do you think is the connection of that is a being the to find the persons adequate? I think the point
Starting point is 00:07:42 that you mentioned the only-ed-elected as a tool for to know-se, understanderce, fundamental. Point number one. One way that has
Starting point is 00:07:52 passed for that tramite, as, as, as you know, you're not you get in the caparazone, sal. And at the
Starting point is 00:07:59 hour of to get to connect with those people, you know who you know who is and what you also have to have a mind very open. Not we're strictos
Starting point is 00:08:08 so, so is how I am I like I want the things because then probably not going to functionar because all we're humans with qualities and qualities marvellousas. But to be also
Starting point is 00:08:20 that curiosity when you're going to know a group of people and a group of persons and this I would like that all, collectively, we'd apply us a little
Starting point is 00:08:29 more, it's a bit more, that mirrored curious, so I'm going to know a I'm going to
Starting point is 00:08:34 know a group, try to understand to understand to hear, who are the people, what are
Starting point is 00:08:41 the questions, what is the objective of the life, the mission that they have because there's
Starting point is 00:08:47 people who are very clear and they comment, oh, how we can find synergies
Starting point is 00:08:51 to do this thing together together? I, like Laura and you like the person.
Starting point is 00:08:59 It's a little the vision. knowcete and then then you know, and then be conscious of that
Starting point is 00:09:06 the vulnerability is something that not to us not even it's an introvertido introvertido
Starting point is 00:09:13 you have to accept that there there's a situation where you want to be able to
Starting point is 00:09:21 you're being authentic and you know the connections are doing those connections of my connections
Starting point is 00:09:28 of carino also when when someone and you know it, you know, not only with that
Starting point is 00:09:32 mirro with that not only that's a person, he's a person human that's
Starting point is 00:09:37 that's that's that he has that he and that look with that
Starting point is 00:09:42 that passive. It's very beautiful what you what you're
Starting point is 00:09:46 that's you're when a person when a person is a situation of
Starting point is 00:09:53 a little bit when it's more egocentric the stress us convictive in persons egocentrists,
Starting point is 00:10:02 because we're sent us in danger. So, the most important is protect us. Fulgare, you what you're what you're doing is just the contrary. There are people that, that, even are made sureddened, can't be able incomprehendous. Why not you're going to look at?
Starting point is 00:10:21 Why not transcends? You're going to, you're more than that egocentrism, of that self-protection? In other than to say, I need to I need to understand someone.
Starting point is 00:10:33 How we're to understand if we're with the oregers of the egotcentrism? No, I want
Starting point is 00:10:38 that person me entienda exactly how I want to be to know to this person.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I want to establish a vincal with this person. Although this vinkul
Starting point is 00:10:49 dur a minute or do a hours, I want to know to this person
Starting point is 00:10:53 so in this moment you go with that that is a a mirabre, curious,
Starting point is 00:10:59 interested, carente of the judge and naturally that the other person it's not we're perfectly,
Starting point is 00:11:08 but perfectly that there's two types of conversation. You and I we're just these two types of
Starting point is 00:11:14 conversation. One, we're conscious that I'm with Laura, I know perfectly
Starting point is 00:11:18 what you're saying, but there something of what I don't see the
Starting point is 00:11:23 communication implicit or no Our two hemispheres of the hemispheres of the humanist are conversing they're
Starting point is 00:11:33 synchronizing a level affective they're vibrating together are dancing they're
Starting point is 00:11:39 dancing is that dance is a if there is a if I'm I'm trying
Starting point is 00:11:47 to analyze you if I'm trying to judgeart if I'm
Starting point is 00:11:51 trying but if I want to know if I want to explore, if I want to be sentient to communicate, that dance is to produce.
Starting point is 00:12:02 What interesting, because, look, the major part of the places, the beings, the only that we're going is to be loved. And the form initial of sentire to feel you cared, is that someone to pay attention. Not that you resolve to your problems, but that's so that's so important
Starting point is 00:12:25 that's because you don't present attention to nothing to not considerate value. If I mean
Starting point is 00:12:31 not me interested a book, no he presteed attention because because I consider valios
Starting point is 00:12:35 if I don't know so if the book would be a conscience I'd I'm
Starting point is 00:12:41 I'm sure I'm so this this is important because you fiftate how
Starting point is 00:12:46 you're you're from your own experience and your own capacity
Starting point is 00:12:50 to discover things, how you're transforming what you see onlyly like a problem in an opportunity? How that soledadale that not is a greatable
Starting point is 00:13:03 never to send you make connect with the soled of other people and you do the resources to say, I can reduce that sentiment of soledat
Starting point is 00:13:16 if me I'm acerco to those persons with a mirada appreciative, with a a mirrored empathic, with a look at a impassive,
Starting point is 00:13:23 that not it's not to connect with the other. If I generate that
Starting point is 00:13:28 vincul. What curious, because the investigation has shown the when you
Starting point is 00:13:34 you you you look from that that that that that
Starting point is 00:13:40 that that you do you that, you your body
Starting point is 00:13:45 starts to liberate oxytocena. The A body of the other person, the body and at level cerebral, for the supposed,
Starting point is 00:13:52 also, it's a liberate oxytocina. If there's someone who is seeing, his own his own his own a new thing.
Starting point is 00:14:01 The oxytocina produces various things, and other things is a protector natural of the heart.
Starting point is 00:14:07 In second the second the back, reduced, even anulah the stress
Starting point is 00:14:13 chronical. Fifate, the soled generates stress chronical. the decision to transcend,
Starting point is 00:14:21 to go more to that to do that to reduce the soledity or simply to create a un-vincor
Starting point is 00:14:29 is a is a matter, is that the world, because in the moment in that you do you do
Starting point is 00:14:36 something, to reduce the soled the soled of other person, automatically as if
Starting point is 00:14:43 were us communicants, is you're reducing your own your own soledat. Fidate what
Starting point is 00:14:49 thing that's talking to how you does the world to a situation in base to a decision. Because at the final, the people really libees, not are the people that actuan in base to their sentiments. If I'm not in that moment
Starting point is 00:15:05 me I'm feeling little, to me not be able to talk with nobody. I'd be to go to a rinkoan to get to a position fetal, lamenting me of what whatever
Starting point is 00:15:16 but if I decide to be a ser free then I'm a victim
Starting point is 00:15:23 of my emotions but I'm an artific of my decisions I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:15:29 so now I'd I'd I'm you have you have some example
Starting point is 00:15:33 concrete in that with the level of detail with you
Starting point is 00:15:37 with you in that you doing that you transcending a
Starting point is 00:15:44 moment of soledat and yending with that mirab appreciative,
Starting point is 00:15:50 has produced a change in a certain situation? Well, I'm
Starting point is 00:15:58 a vote of a situation that me came in an car was a
Starting point is 00:16:03 moment of my life in the I was a time for the
Starting point is 00:16:09 time I was a 70% of a soled you're doing , you
Starting point is 00:16:16 work, he's only, many times with clients, but there's a solidity
Starting point is 00:16:20 implicit in that way, and I'm passed to be in an car and I know a thing that's
Starting point is 00:16:26 a moment that I'm also that I'm a little little doing introspection I was with me with
Starting point is 00:16:32 me and I was very nervous, I'm very nervous there was very nervous, there was there in the
Starting point is 00:16:38 past, being a canary that is a fact we have to be normally
Starting point is 00:16:42 normally in the I had a moment of my life where I had I had a lot of and I was very sad because gestionable, that sobid of cortisol that pegged in the airon, he was gesturated very well.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And I remember to see that that sheena, really not me apetecis much entablar a conversation, but I sent the necessity to help her,
Starting point is 00:17:06 I had the place to the side the right, I was like, and I said, I'm looking at the man on the arm.
Starting point is 00:17:15 He said, all is all all right, respirate, are just turbulences, all is all over
Starting point is 00:17:22 control. All right. With that she was a relationship. We were talking the rest of the
Starting point is 00:17:30 world, she was that I would be that the little gesture, to talk to
Starting point is 00:17:36 the armory, and to say, she rompio to cry, I gave a smile, she me sonri-o, and established
Starting point is 00:17:48 a connection that until the day of today of today, of today, that's a person, that she said,
Starting point is 00:17:55 that she said, that in a moment of an high stress for her, I'd to rompire that barrera and
Starting point is 00:18:01 he said, all right, I'm going to this moment, we're going to go ahead. It's an
Starting point is 00:18:07 example that me came. Well, I think it's an example precious because a person
Starting point is 00:18:14 it can pass very bad in the turbulence of an avion. We know that today is the
Starting point is 00:18:19 things more more things that's what the reason us say and other thing is
Starting point is 00:18:24 what one what one is what one is curious because you did something
Starting point is 00:18:28 that not not enter into the camp of the logic but
Starting point is 00:18:32 in the country and the you sentiste a a
Starting point is 00:18:37 a a what you'd be what you're what you thinking in you were that recogimient that tranquillity you're always tranquil because you've been a lot of much and you know that the turbulence are the major part of the
Starting point is 00:18:54 major part of the years and but you sent this call to do something for other human that was going to frankly man and in the other word of saying well but I know that no
Starting point is 00:19:10 doesn't know, because I have experience, you veas that if you were going to another person. You did you one thing that from the point of view of exterior,
Starting point is 00:19:21 it seems that's not a much but from the point of view interior has all the relevance. Tantto that's create
Starting point is 00:19:28 a vincal of amistat that probably probably still still still still. So, I do
Starting point is 00:19:34 because many times we don't make our intuctions. Many times The intuition is a
Starting point is 00:19:41 call of the profound. The intuition is a a connection, a synonization. It's a connectar
Starting point is 00:19:48 with the feeling of another person. But in a lot of many times are egocentric, and it's
Starting point is 00:19:54 well, but no, no, me convoyne or what they're going to think the
Starting point is 00:19:57 people, or he's going to have to be to be to be that's
Starting point is 00:20:03 that one that's a guide of the intuition fundamentally because you
Starting point is 00:20:08 see a someone that is a question, it's a good that's not that's
Starting point is 00:20:15 normally they're surprisingly well because that that that has that had
Starting point is 00:20:23 that first that that that's that that tension is in form of
Starting point is 00:20:30 and and in second other he grew a a very great-gratitude. You notast
Starting point is 00:20:37 that when you apart about to you, because you were you were the introspection? You, you've got the sensation that
Starting point is 00:20:47 after that experience, you're even more closer to you? No, because he
Starting point is 00:20:53 would be the other person, no important the little that you're doing, or the much that
Starting point is 00:20:59 you're doing, when you have been a impact positive in someone, that, Mario,
Starting point is 00:21:06 is all. That's all. That's all. I don't I don't know who was I don't know who was angels with a one solar, we need to
Starting point is 00:21:17 have to be another person to so it's curious because many of we're usually in the introspection. I'm going to in a cuba,
Starting point is 00:21:27 I'm going to and I'm going to to be to go to go to over-volar the problems of day-a-day and the fact is that the other other has another
Starting point is 00:21:37 you what you did was to to have to that person and, and Well, that's that's transformed the world, of a
Starting point is 00:21:45 vueling to a bollosos, of a relation initially inexistent, to a relation
Starting point is 00:21:52 probably permanent, and this is a message fundamental because many
Starting point is 00:21:58 times, Laura, we have the sensation that the circumstances are the only
Starting point is 00:22:02 that are that it and it's how we don't we we're that that circumstance,
Starting point is 00:22:09 it, all. You have done hundreds, for not to say, millions of the world.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Probably the 99. 9% of them have forgotten. But this no it's
Starting point is 00:22:23 not you have been in quite the question. Why not you have
Starting point is 00:22:30 forgotten? Because he has done a record unborrabble in
Starting point is 00:22:34 your heart? And why why has a record in your question?
Starting point is 00:22:38 Because you have seen the guide of the not the guide of the CREA of the
Starting point is 00:22:42 CREASTA. Much people that in the process of introspection in the front, no, it's
Starting point is 00:22:49 more than a trap because they're, no, no, first I have to
Starting point is 00:22:53 be good, I'm when I can't, you know, it's very well, that you
Starting point is 00:22:57 do you know, but many times never you'll never you're all the
Starting point is 00:23:02 good you can't do the thing, it's does
Starting point is 00:23:08 sense for you? It's all the I've seen Mario,
Starting point is 00:23:10 and also I would like to take this opportunity to thank you to do that
Starting point is 00:23:17 all the life that in a long in a situation they've had been to be
Starting point is 00:23:23 and I'm made, and I'm made, that's all all right, I'm
Starting point is 00:23:28 here, count with me because that those people that have
Starting point is 00:23:33 had been that I'm who I am who who difficult, difficult. And, well, I I'm gladysk, now that me
Starting point is 00:23:43 have been in the mind many people, that those people rompired in the answer to say, to get to his zone of comfort, at the more, and say, oh, yeah, Laura, all right, all right, here I'm, or I'm going, I, I'm going, I'm going,
Starting point is 00:23:57 I'm going to be, how you're going to be a movie Avatar, which is a movie that I'm perhaps extraordinary, for the at least in his, in his level of innovation. One of the things
Starting point is 00:24:11 most impressionate is in the series is when they're they're I, see.
Starting point is 00:24:20 How people people that they see them simply that see that and not that are
Starting point is 00:24:28 like as a one that's as a see to you, I'm you appreciate, it's
Starting point is 00:24:36 I mean, I'm I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm you're at your side, is I'm
Starting point is 00:24:43 how many things related with the anxiety, with the depression, with the loss of
Starting point is 00:24:49 the life, with the angustia, how many things can't be the
Starting point is 00:24:55 really that were that I'm, for me you're a person relevant,
Starting point is 00:25:02 you've you've you've used, you've You've seen a person that was suffering. Sentiste the call. Many people see the same the same.
Starting point is 00:25:12 But, no does nothing. No, they're not. You know, you know, the thing of the science I'm perugue that not me pierced to not to not pervert the dimension of the spirit
Starting point is 00:25:23 but is very curious, that's the gesture that you did to put the man on that many many, there are so many that I think,
Starting point is 00:25:32 not that they, that's that That gesture active a part of the system nervio, is the name the nerve-vago-antterior, is the nerve of the encounter, is the nerve of the connection. It makes that the heart can be a rhythm
Starting point is 00:25:46 between what's called coerence cardiac, and this has demonstrated that has all type of benefits in the body. It's just, you have said, when, once,
Starting point is 00:25:54 you were, you were, you had that liberation of cortisol, of adrenaline, etc., when one not has been habituated. In that moment, that woman was having that liberation,
Starting point is 00:26:10 well, I've always had all the time with those ciphrasal, that we know that damage the tissue the body. With that gesture that you did, of sercania, to put in the manner, of that tone, suave, agradable, confiado, secure,
Starting point is 00:26:27 all is all right. In that moment, there was an activation, for about solo at the level physical of the nerve-vago anterior. The consequence of that is a caida immediate of cortisol. Caida immediate of cortisol.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Because when a person is a company if not she's santa, confia more. If confia more, why will have to have more fear? Tendra less fear. I do because many times there are people who are
Starting point is 00:26:57 doing something for the And they're that only can do something from the other from the medicine, from the camp of the
Starting point is 00:27:06 psychology, of the camp of the psychotherapy, from other other. No, no, it's a
Starting point is 00:27:11 can do you do a lot for the other in any moment. When your heart,
Starting point is 00:27:17 those those are connected capt a signal. It's you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:23 you know, the call of a person and in the other to
Starting point is 00:27:28 do to what you says the reason, not you not you don't, you
Starting point is 00:27:31 don't know, you're to say, because you put you to put your side, he's
Starting point is 00:27:35 to think, you know, you're you're saying, you're more value to that that's
Starting point is 00:27:42 a good, and if in a moment I've terminated, that person you've said,
Starting point is 00:27:47 I'm going, I'm still, I'm even, even, even, your own your own
Starting point is 00:27:55 your, and you, to be some way, reject that and continue maintaining that
Starting point is 00:28:00 a sonrisa, oh, well, if in some moment, I'm to be the help that I'm in the
Starting point is 00:28:06 field of that's. Only that you're doing. Because there many people that, of some
Starting point is 00:28:13 people who think, or we're doing, that we demonstrate that one is a gesture of a good,
Starting point is 00:28:22 is a gesture of humanity. And in that moment, can alzance these
Starting point is 00:28:29 barriers of what do you that I'm not used that I'm not we're not we take as an agression
Starting point is 00:28:36 not we don't we take us a desprecue to take us simply as a barrier
Starting point is 00:28:43 of protection that in that person put in marcha that we we don't we have
Starting point is 00:28:48 to just to resisters and to say that this is that that is
Starting point is 00:28:55 a great impact. Correct. Recordemes that all in the life, or is an expression of a more or a petition of but not all the
Starting point is 00:29:03 times we we're just we're our people, we're at the final of this session with
Starting point is 00:29:10 a woman marivosa, with Laura, that I think that has a message
Starting point is 00:29:15 very relevant, the message that when we see that when we
Starting point is 00:29:20 see that that we're in two things. First, that is normal, that is human, that to all us pass in determinates moments. Second, a point that I want to reinforce, no we're conforming with isolars, with
Starting point is 00:29:38 retirons of the world. Buske us, seeing the guide of Laura, buske us with that mirada, interested, curious, that mirada, that a mirablerable, how connect to other people, because
Starting point is 00:29:52 none of what is going what is what is a person human in every moment. Much
Starting point is 00:29:58 thanks, thank you, Laura. Thank you, Mario.

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