Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - El Poder de la gratitud

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

"La gratitud es un ejercicio necesario para saber valorar lo que se tiene.” En esta parte de la entrevista con Ney Díaz reflexionamos sobre la Gratitud, como forma de ser y estar en la vida. ...Dialogamos sobre la Mentalidad de Abundancia tremendamente unida a una disposición cooperativa y sobre la búsqueda de nuestro Propósito, aquel que te invite a querer iluminar para que otros puedan brillar. Ojalá este podcast te haya gustado y pueda convertirse en una inspiración a la hora de despertar y florecer tu verdadero potencial. Página Web: https://marioalonsopuig.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marioalonsopuig/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@MarioAlonsoPuigOficial Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarioAlonsoPuigOficial

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Starting point is 00:00:05 The gratitude is, I think, a exercise necessary to know about to know what you have. This is a podcast for all those those those people that want to think in
Starting point is 00:00:22 great, feel in great, and living in great. I'm the doctor Mario Lonsopuch, I'm going to live to this adventure of discovery
Starting point is 00:00:31 and the personal. Only, maybe I'd get before. But
Starting point is 00:00:37 we're much more less much more very much. Good. The gratitude.
Starting point is 00:00:49 What role plays the gratitude in the development and the development and in
Starting point is 00:00:54 the business and the family. I'm going to put a example in my
Starting point is 00:01:00 case of a fact of my part and a lesson that I received.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I have collaborated in a program that the Camino Interior is the Camino Santiago, that is very known at a level
Starting point is 00:01:13 a level world, and it has a series of capitals where a series of persons we're going with the director of the program
Starting point is 00:01:22 that is Michael Angel, Tobias. We're going about different things of the voyage interior, because
Starting point is 00:01:29 when one has done the Camino Santiago, part of the Camino Santiago, there's a place
Starting point is 00:01:34 exterior, precious, because is a Pausages, Galicia is marvellous, and in general, Spain is precious and you can't go to different cities, but no there's
Starting point is 00:01:43 that's a lot of things in front. I've experimented and it's really a surprise so. So I did to do
Starting point is 00:01:49 the way to Cereyro to a Triacestela, that's in Lugo, the two. So, at the after I'm
Starting point is 00:01:58 after my time, in the that they were going on on the the processes
Starting point is 00:02:01 interiors, etc., that are that are that are that's when one is doing this
Starting point is 00:02:06 way of the Peregrino. When we came to Tria Castela, we went to dinner and I asked a fillet,
Starting point is 00:02:13 an entrecote. And the is that was a little and I said, this carna is hard.
Starting point is 00:02:18 And the director, Miguel Angel, me he said, and he said,
Starting point is 00:02:24 Mario, no, there's there, there's a lack of a and in
Starting point is 00:02:29 that moment I'm I'm thinking and I said, the problem
Starting point is 00:02:33 not is that the not is that for my palatarta is the problem is that I'm not I'm seeing not I'm seeing that I'm not that's not that
Starting point is 00:02:43 that's that never can't come this entrecote so the gratitude is I think
Starting point is 00:02:50 an exercise necessary to know to know to know to learn what it's and it's
Starting point is 00:02:57 impression the investigation that has done about the gratitude and the impact in the health
Starting point is 00:03:03 because it has demonstrated that the gratitude produces something in the system nervios that generates an equilibrium that the tension arterial is regula much better persons diabetics the sugar,
Starting point is 00:03:17 the levels of sugar is gestionate better. It's not there's that the person human when live in the gratitude tient to be
Starting point is 00:03:26 more saner than when they live in the keha. And it is a strategy very simple, very useful, very studied in the
Starting point is 00:03:36 hospitals of the at the clinic Mayon Roches Termino's Sot where you, before you, before you do you,
Starting point is 00:03:43 you know, you know, three or four things for that you feel you're and you see, and you
Starting point is 00:03:49 know, one does do that all the world be, no, there's much people who's
Starting point is 00:03:54 invident, or that all the world, no, there's much people can hear the
Starting point is 00:03:57 music, and can the voice of the people, there's there for a fact,
Starting point is 00:04:01 well, that what normal is to have a lot of the thing. There's a lot of when we
Starting point is 00:04:07 are going, when we're putting our attention, to give us not of what we need, but of the
Starting point is 00:04:15 much that we have, then, then, accostars with this gesture of gratitude,
Starting point is 00:04:21 that you get to not to not as a exercise intellectual, it's an experience
Starting point is 00:04:28 sensorial. And when you're when you're for the morning and you say, that's, like, I'm going to say a thing that's like very simple, at the most of you
Starting point is 00:04:35 have been up, there's got to all the days with the world, has what's called a dolor chronic. All we know what is to get
Starting point is 00:04:44 and have a or that a pain, or that a good, or that a good, a roadia, and we know how you're going to
Starting point is 00:04:49 there's a lot. And even, many of them, a person, they're trying to make sure of that's not
Starting point is 00:04:57 to give us that the gratitude is a form of being a life, that not only makes that we're much better for the point of view affective, but also it has a
Starting point is 00:05:06 impact clearish in the health. I want to give a part of a video that I saw about the thing of the gratitude,
Starting point is 00:05:15 I started to incorporate the practice of a first hour of the morning and at the final of the day. Interesting,
Starting point is 00:05:23 as the same exercise produces results different. in the morning, when I do the exercise of gratitude, I'm full of energy
Starting point is 00:05:31 and me full of of the impugue to confront all the circumstances of the day. When I do in the night, me relax and me does much a sensation of peace.
Starting point is 00:05:42 So, the same exercise, in moments different, you generate a benefit, impressive. The fact that I didn't want to mention it,
Starting point is 00:05:51 because it's something that has changed my life and that I think a wonderful. Let me talk a little of the mentality of abundance
Starting point is 00:05:58 in a world where the scarcity is practically the norm what is the mentality of abundance and why we have
Starting point is 00:06:07 to try to develop it? The mentality of abundance is it's when you understand
Starting point is 00:06:17 that the universe is for naturalness abundant I think we we
Starting point is 00:06:25 people to those that they like the and they're a little a little a little a, a, a,
Starting point is 00:06:35 and they're playing, and they're going to be the pedas this. This corresponds to
Starting point is 00:06:41 a mentality of a is to that you have, you don't have to this is the
Starting point is 00:06:46 base of the avarice not of the ambition, but the avarice so,
Starting point is 00:06:51 for that for that you have more, you have to get a
Starting point is 00:06:55 that no there's sufficient to calm the avaricea. So, where is the mentality of abundance?
Starting point is 00:07:03 The mentality is when one looks around and observe that there's a kitchen, that there
Starting point is 00:07:09 all type of ingredients, that there all type of of the , and all
Starting point is 00:07:15 type of recipes to do the different pastels of the
Starting point is 00:07:18 world. So in that they they're they're they they're
Starting point is 00:07:23 to cooperate. The mentality of abundance, not can be over the
Starting point is 00:07:28 mess if no there's a good a good conduct that rivaliza blocker for completely the
Starting point is 00:07:37 abundance. One thing is to be to be better. Another thing is a thing, I'm
Starting point is 00:07:42 to get what you get to you. And then the mentality of abundance
Starting point is 00:07:47 is a situation how function the universe? What is?
Starting point is 00:07:49 The universe is generous with a mental mezquina. And you
Starting point is 00:07:54 You'll say, oh, I know I know people that Has a Yeah, he has Has done, imagine to amass an enormous capital. Is Feliz?
Starting point is 00:08:07 And probably, we're absolutely angustied for that no So, I remember I've seen many years that I read in a
Starting point is 00:08:18 book, DeL Carnegie that's How Ellinger something like how eliminate the preoccupations of the life, that Rockefeller
Starting point is 00:08:29 was a man was a man he was a man he had to accumulate more and more money, one occasion had to cross
Starting point is 00:08:38 a barco a barco with a certain cargament the Lago Michigan so he he was
Starting point is 00:08:44 he was in not assurial the cargament because according the reportes that received the Lago Michigan
Starting point is 00:08:50 was like a mar is immense But in the the He was He entered that he had He had changed the
Starting point is 00:08:57 the conditions of the lag and now had a solas tremendous and that possibly the barco is undia,
Starting point is 00:09:04 because the soles are brutal. So, rapidly I'll I'll to
Starting point is 00:09:09 make sure the barco although of a way a little curious not.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Dando for the that the barco is a day and that
Starting point is 00:09:16 he he he to the other port with any type of problems. And then, it was a crisis of anxiety for having paid
Starting point is 00:09:26 the security when he had to have paid. The result is that, according to Carnegie in this book, Rockefeller started to have certain problems digestive and he went to develop ulceras in the stomach. They're an ulceres of stress. The ulcera de Cushing, that's described by the grand neurosurgeoned North American,
Starting point is 00:09:47 Harvey Cushing. So the ulcera of Cushing produces great hemorrhages digestive, and in that era no there was medication like there medication super-sophisticated
Starting point is 00:09:57 that you block a production of acid chloridric for the cello oxyntica that is the that produces the acid
Starting point is 00:10:03 chloridic in the stomach is that was a situation very delicate and was in a mansion
Starting point is 00:10:08 with a with a a sonda had been a hospital and he had been
Starting point is 00:10:14 put a a ston vasogastric a tub to the top of the stomach for the
Starting point is 00:10:18 injected a alkalinizant to try and to try to blocker the level of acid and it seems that in that moment Rockefeller took like a breakthrough
Starting point is 00:10:28 a moment of the man more rich of the world tomand a food that would desprecre'd a mendigo that no
Starting point is 00:10:36 function in my life. I think the mental that abundance is that one that one when
Starting point is 00:10:43 when he thinks in the good of the when not only think in the suyo
Starting point is 00:10:49 And the mentality of abundance not only has to be with things material. Because if a person only has things materiales and no
Starting point is 00:10:58 have persons that want a motive real to live, an illusion in their life, etc. is very
Starting point is 00:11:05 poor. So, it's very poor. So the mentality abundance not we have
Starting point is 00:11:08 only in the things, but in the experiences that you have, in the people that
Starting point is 00:11:16 the people that the thing that's the study about the world, about the future that there in the
Starting point is 00:11:19 world, the amount of several decades, the element of the thing is what you have you
Starting point is 00:11:26 know, but the people that you're the people not are the things that you
Starting point is 00:11:31 know, the people that you have to your around. So in that mentality
Starting point is 00:11:35 of abundance to all we understand we all we're in fact you we're
Starting point is 00:11:39 we're very good friends me I mean, I mean, you
Starting point is 00:11:44 see me a a friend, if I see, if I'm an friend, as I see, it's more easy that cooperate with for the good of all. If I'm here, I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:11:53 get a lot, even I'm going to get, even if I'm going to generate, no? So the mentality of abundance is to what we're called all, but for that we need to be
Starting point is 00:12:02 the encounter with the other person and have this disposition to cooperate. I have a definition personal, a little bit of a person with a
Starting point is 00:12:11 person with a personality, of abundance, is a person that associate your best with the best of the best
Starting point is 00:12:16 of the best of a result of a general to generate to the
Starting point is 00:12:20 and you can replace for any other or whatever other
Starting point is 00:12:25 term but always you think that what you you receive
Starting point is 00:12:29 is because you do you do you and so so
Starting point is 00:12:33 health also also I'm the same I think the
Starting point is 00:12:37 the partying of the partying of the all you do you do
Starting point is 00:12:42 you you're in a quarter? I think it's a form much more scueta
Starting point is 00:12:45 and direct in the question the first of the abundance of so I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:12:51 so I'm talk. And we talk about a little of stress. I think it's
Starting point is 00:12:55 something that is inevitable in the life in the world in the world accelerated
Starting point is 00:13:00 in the we've in the the there are there are there things
Starting point is 00:13:04 first of how gestion this stress but more
Starting point is 00:13:07 than to get to to You can give us some some of those I'm going to give.
Starting point is 00:13:15 The first we have to superer a great confusion that there even today with the time of the
Starting point is 00:13:21 stress. Because equiparamos stress with a problem the same that we're
Starting point is 00:13:28 that we're we're we're not the same what is the same that we're we're sometimes is compete
Starting point is 00:13:34 with rivalization are two things different the life without stress
Starting point is 00:13:39 would physically impossible Or, I'll say, the mechanisms of the stress not are in a capriced of the naturalness, but for a necessity to help us to be in.
Starting point is 00:13:50 For example, the mechanisms of stress are you put in march when a person perceives a danger of physical. If not existiering mechanisms of stress, we'd have been
Starting point is 00:14:03 over-yvied the 2.5 million of years that had the species homo over the earth. If we, If we, in a moment of a terminated, no tupyraise, not we'd have the motivation to to get a determinatist, and
Starting point is 00:14:20 to achieve determinants objectives. No, we'd have the capacity to superar determinat those because the stress has to flora determinative resources. For, so the stress in its conjunction, is a reaction of the organism, that
Starting point is 00:14:35 includes the dimension physical, the dimension mental, emotional, relational, et cetera, ante a newbeda. For that, we're going to make a distinction between what is
Starting point is 00:14:46 the form useful, positive, beneficial of stress and what is the form negative. What is
Starting point is 00:14:54 the form negative of stress? The fact has a name distressed. The same that the
Starting point is 00:14:59 form a positive is called Eustres. These are two words that invented the
Starting point is 00:15:05 father of the stress the professor Austrian Hanselli. So, the eustress is very well that's where it's the moment,
Starting point is 00:15:14 in Spain, we're just putting the pilas, we're more atent, we're, we're more energy, there's a major liberation of adrenaline. This is very typical, for example, in the in surgery, in surgery, always that you're an intervention, so on interventions complicated, or an intervention of the urgency,
Starting point is 00:15:29 you know is a point of eustrease. And that point of stress, you'll be a lot more enfocated, not start distraider, is much more rapid, You have more agility, not you cancass, I've done operations of nine hours a single operation, and not you crees the level of the
Starting point is 00:15:46 body of course, practically, without a surgeon, because the surgeon no, no, no, no, no, so, sienta, no, no, no, so, so, what is the distress?
Starting point is 00:15:55 The distress is the form chronic of stress. It's, I mean, no, there's recuperation. A certain, a surgeon, after to do a operation large, has to be to have to be to recuperate.
Starting point is 00:16:06 A executive, after having to a case a process complicated, a reunion difficult, in fin, all these things, has to be
Starting point is 00:16:13 to be to be a person who is studying at the university or in the college, after a time of intense, he has to
Starting point is 00:16:21 have to a father, a mother, that's a son, to his children and he has
Starting point is 00:16:27 required much, much much dedication for the moment that they have to be the
Starting point is 00:16:32 , the is when you quit those periods of recuperation. Today, we know that the grand problem in our society is that no processes of recuperation. We're constantly experimenting pickes of stress. And this form of stress is different,
Starting point is 00:16:47 as to the point of this, biochemical. Because if there's a certain level of adrenaline, it's to be a dominant, a hormone different, that is the cortisol. And the cortisol, liberated, of this manner, of a form constant and with the numbers that can be 20% superior
Starting point is 00:17:03 or normal, is very dachina to the organism. So this is the first that we have to recognize that there are two forms and that we've accustomed to consider that the stress
Starting point is 00:17:14 is always when it's the distressed. So, what is the first that I recommend to a person? The first that is the next, for more glamorous
Starting point is 00:17:25 that it is the being, the start stressed, not is that I don't have time for nothing. This is a fiction. This is a fallacy.
Starting point is 00:17:33 This is a mentira. A person distressed. A person with stress chronicles, a person whose efficiency is a reduce to a manner brutal,
Starting point is 00:17:42 whose relations are deteriorate, whose health physical in pejora, whose state of animo can't in picado.
Starting point is 00:17:49 For that has no anything that's a person that for the training that for
Starting point is 00:17:58 I've been years studying the distress. We've done a investigation with the distress. No I've encountered nothing positive in the distress. Nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing. So, what does mean?
Starting point is 00:18:12 Well, that's not it. What we can't do? Well, imponern us pauses of recuperation. Entendor that the recuperation not is a luxury. It's a necessity. The vacations
Starting point is 00:18:25 not are a lullo. are a necessity. Poder descansar a fine of a month, even a year, not is a lucho. It's a necessity. And our society
Starting point is 00:18:38 not par to inventing new medications to reduce the anxiety and the depression, and not is much times the
Starting point is 00:18:46 lack of recuperation. It's a sensation that a person, all we have done but it's
Starting point is 00:18:52 but it's the sensation that the person more is the that's the that's the one
Starting point is 00:18:56 has the minute for nothing. I think this is a error.
Starting point is 00:19:00 That we do we do not a lot of that so I'm so I'm to do you
Starting point is 00:19:05 to use there moments of the time. I'm in personal I think
Starting point is 00:19:11 more to aspire to that my perception no exists what we
Starting point is 00:19:17 have to aspire is to to be there are there
Starting point is 00:19:20 there are there's you have a conference you have prepare the conference, you're going to
Starting point is 00:19:26 to be able to talk to tell you know, it's normal that you're a little of stress and that's
Starting point is 00:19:32 a lot of intense. So in that moment, you can't be able to balance, not you
Starting point is 00:19:39 can't be able to not even because you're because you're a threat for the thing you
Starting point is 00:19:44 have to assume. So, then again, when you when you're when you're to do
Starting point is 00:19:49 formas to discompriming and liberate that that pressure, recal, recar energies, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:19:54 so. So I think so much in the compensation. It's saying, me implic with a effort here, well, I'm in equal proportion with some mechanism of compensation.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Absolutely. It's a, is that's so. Because if those mechanisms of compensation not so accumul to be a carolostatic, nobody knows
Starting point is 00:20:13 what is the car glostatic, there's some type residue physical, chemical. We don't know well what is, but it produces a deterioration in the organisms.
Starting point is 00:20:21 It's like a lavator that's accumuling salt, or certain residues, and not it's a moment in that the lavator not function. Well, we're going to us pass it.
Starting point is 00:20:32 We need to understand that the organism needs periods of recuperation. Fifate, that if a animal, the professor Hanselli, who was the
Starting point is 00:20:42 that discovered the mechanisms of the distress, he submitted to the ratas, was his animal to experimentation, the ratas, then he also
Starting point is 00:20:50 he also worked with those animals, but fundamentally with rats, to stress chronic, you know, the lesions that they produced
Starting point is 00:20:56 is, it's impressionate the discovery of Rosselli, some ulceras in the stomach, an atrofia of the glambulas
Starting point is 00:21:03 superrenals for, for, for, for, for the problem, in all
Starting point is 00:21:09 type of of problems. You know, you're you're smetes to an animal to a stress chronic
Starting point is 00:21:14 with distressed and you have done much damage. Well, the human
Starting point is 00:21:18 has a natural also a natural that because intellectually we're more advanced, physiologically, we can do what we do
Starting point is 00:21:26 the want to. No, no, no. And I fortunately I'm seeing that the businesses these are starting to take very in
Starting point is 00:21:33 serious. When the people are to start to runperse, I remember I mean, I remember,
Starting point is 00:21:42 a conference about the gestion of stress for a company very great were engineers
Starting point is 00:21:48 of many countries of the world and there a little cocktail and he's a little of the
Starting point is 00:21:54 engineers and my and my son thank you thank you because it's the first time that in this company
Starting point is 00:21:59 is about this we're not we're we're we're doing we're we're doing to take it
Starting point is 00:22:06 seriously definitely the purpose let's let's the purpose I'd want to
Starting point is 00:22:14 some suggestions you're first how encounter the purpose or our purpose, and how
Starting point is 00:22:21 cultivate it and develop it? They have some ideas that you can't in that sense? Yeah, for me the purpose no, no respond to the question for-k, but, so the question, for what?
Starting point is 00:22:31 So, I wrote a book that's called The Word of the The Thirder of the Time and in the portada, which is a portada like, of, the, for a phrase, for what has been to this world?
Starting point is 00:22:43 So, the purpose, to, discover your purpose is to discover for what has You have not been noted by casuality. Nobody has
Starting point is 00:22:51 been born by casuality. Who is this we're doing is fruit of the hazard, I
Starting point is 00:22:58 would invite to look to make a more profundity. None we've not been
Starting point is 00:23:02 notcid. All have been to do you plan, a plan that
Starting point is 00:23:06 a plan that better to put a example. I've a few days I'm
Starting point is 00:23:12 a little that I want much that is in Majorca
Starting point is 00:23:15 I I went to Palma to do two conferences. And I was with my mother, from the hotel, to the airport, and the taxista was an encantor. And in that moment, he called a lady, and he said, now I can't talk,
Starting point is 00:23:29 carino. And then, and then, they're just super-carenoso, but, that's so, but, sure, he called, he called, and I said, f, how will be her a woman? If she has a boad, be a woman
Starting point is 00:23:39 with a much age. And then, us we told it's a a new years that had
Starting point is 00:23:48 had been a his wife and had had been a his own his own
Starting point is 00:23:52 and that in the pandemic that he was he was he was a ex-taxist
Starting point is 00:23:58 to to pay to be to get to get to some some
Starting point is 00:24:04 products so so this man when when about she
Starting point is 00:24:09 about with with a carino. He was with an illusion. This man conduct a taxi, but has
Starting point is 00:24:18 been found his purpose. For what is to? Well, to help other people to super to
Starting point is 00:24:25 their moments more difficult. For that other people not are not so. I encountered my
Starting point is 00:24:30 purpose, being a young, when in an an news, in a tele-
Starting point is 00:24:37 -diario, I saw a cataclysm and I heard the medical they're doing
Starting point is 00:24:42 to save the life to live the supervients, not, although I've been very eried,
Starting point is 00:24:46 I'm in my for what? to do you. It's, in in in in is something that is revealed. No, it's something in my experience that intellectually, you're saying,
Starting point is 00:25:17 you have to do, you know, you have to do you have to prepare the terrain. But the discovery of your purpose in my experience is something that has done. Of a repent, it's done.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And it's very difficult that you can't your proposito if not is included in what you do a sense of contribution. because the word that
Starting point is 00:25:40 more is a purpose to for me is contribution. Whenever that you're doing a
Starting point is 00:25:48 contribution, even that's a sonrisa while you are attending a person in your commercial
Starting point is 00:25:55 or doing a program that can help to help or here in this interview
Starting point is 00:26:01 that some that some that some that some that can us that you
Starting point is 00:26:05 can that you You are you, you're still your purpose. Because that
Starting point is 00:26:11 is what really does a incentive to the life. If all if all it's a
Starting point is 00:26:17 thing, well, that's a little a little a little what I do that
Starting point is 00:26:23 is a other people, as a person, as I have partied, the
Starting point is 00:26:27 being to be to one because is the good of the good,
Starting point is 00:26:30 but the joy in the the cause, no there's no
Starting point is 00:26:33 there no there, encounter. So I think we we don't we have to obsessionar with the purpose if we're in that all what we have have a
Starting point is 00:26:45 orientation to contribute, even it's a way very simple, to do this world, a place. You've mentioned in your explanation two words that me have called the attention,
Starting point is 00:27:01 encounter and reveler. what I'm or of to a certain form corroborate my theory of that many times
Starting point is 00:27:08 we're that we're simply not we have defined articulated and potenciated in their just a
Starting point is 00:27:16 or a sometimes subestimamos our and our actions and not we don't
Starting point is 00:27:22 know we're we're not we're doing a problem we're we're
Starting point is 00:27:27 we're not we're not stay. Of actually, me in the memory a situation
Starting point is 00:27:33 that's a little with a syndrome down, whose ability is extraordinary because I
Starting point is 00:27:40 can't call it more than it. It was that if I saw two people that were,
Starting point is 00:27:47 the were, she was a little one, he had to one, he had
Starting point is 00:27:52 the other, he had the other and he disappeared in that moment the conflict. So, who
Starting point is 00:28:00 Who, who not consider that this is something is something to ask you because it's written in many books,
Starting point is 00:28:07 there are many courses, there's many things about how to manage the conflict. Well, here we have a
Starting point is 00:28:12 young with a syndrome of down that not is that he's that's a fact. So,
Starting point is 00:28:18 that nobody me say that this young not is that this job so.
Starting point is 00:28:22 So, I think we have to see the purpose as something a lot profoundly inspirational and profoundly
Starting point is 00:28:29 cercano. Because this is like when one one of the figure a figure in the example, a little of the figure in a
Starting point is 00:28:36 santo. If you're a child a four meters of the height, you say the life, you
Starting point is 00:28:40 say, but if they're that a person, with his defectors, with his illusions,
Starting point is 00:28:48 with his caithas, and simply that he was to help to help level,
Starting point is 00:28:56 a level of suffering, and this is, this is, this is I this is a lot of so we're in
Starting point is 00:29:00 a lot of , we're saying, is that we're to say, we need to do we do that we
Starting point is 00:29:07 in a point of a point of I'm, I want, I remember one in a city that is a
Starting point is 00:29:13 place, that's a car, the Campio Campo, and he a conference
Starting point is 00:29:19 on a world of the emotions and there was a part of questions and
Starting point is 00:29:25 And then a in this case a one of the table he said a microphone was a person to give
Starting point is 00:29:32 the microphone but did a voice he said I want I want to do something for where
Starting point is 00:29:38 I'm and I did you myself she kept callied and so he sent
Starting point is 00:29:44 so clear so the purpose not so not there not you don't have to
Starting point is 00:29:50 live to be to see in the television or for The purpose
Starting point is 00:29:56 never you never to want to what you to invite to want to you're
Starting point is 00:30:01 to come and you think that that point is very important because it's very separate
Starting point is 00:30:07 of the ego the human no the idea the
Starting point is 00:30:10 because the human not the human not the
Starting point is 00:30:15 other the other no no the principles of
Starting point is 00:30:18 the the good and it's me me and
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