Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - ¿Por qué las historias nos ayudan a transformar nuestra vida?

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

¿Sabías que una buena historia puede sincronizar tus neuronas, equilibrar tu nervio vago y darle instrucciones nuevas a tu inconsciente? En esta conversación con mi amigo Alberto Herrera exploramos... por qué los cuentos, mitos y fábulas siguen actuando como puentes entre lo visible y lo mágico y son tan importantes para nuestro crecimiento interior.Hablamos de la neurociencia del storytelling: cómo una simple metáfora puede fomentar nuestra neuroplasticidad, por qué la forma en que le hablas a quien escucha puede facilitar el cambio y de qué manera la vinculación afectiva que surge al compartir historias ayuda a bajar el estrés crónico.También repasamos estudios que muestran cómo leer cuentos a los niños potencia la memoria, la imaginación y la percepción del riesgo.Deseo que esta conversación te anime a contar y a contarte mejores historias, esas que ensanchan el alma, inspiran coraje y convierten cada día en una aventura de transformación.🌐⁠Página Web⁠📷⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠▶️⁠Youtube⁠📲⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠🎟️Entradas a la nueva conferencia 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Mario, what How, good days? Very good days. He told to your kids to
Starting point is 00:00:05 your kids? Yes. Yes, and I me those inventable. But the curious is
Starting point is 00:00:11 that it was at the level of attention that they put in so I sometimes
Starting point is 00:00:16 I felt a very I'm a very he was created on the marcha
Starting point is 00:00:21 and and a good day me they're they're we're
Starting point is 00:00:25 we we're to grab it No, I said, no, no, I think no, I think no, I think it's a sufficient level. And a good day, I go, I've been to many years, and they're in a grabator and, and say, Papa, it's, he'll start with the
Starting point is 00:00:39 quote. And I'll be, God, me, that this will be a registered. What has it. What has grabbed? Yes, yeah, then it's what it was. And, you know, I'm going to be interesting, because I mean me have encanted the I always the fables. I think there are fables that that you
Starting point is 00:00:54 have been the mind and the mind and the whole of a story of a fauula and in a fact I'm
Starting point is 00:01:02 in a few many years, I invented a story that I thought fascinating but no
Starting point is 00:01:06 I'm so that the juror not it doesn't but at that I know
Starting point is 00:01:11 that I'm the Warrand of the third of the time, which is
Starting point is 00:01:13 my book really really more really a transformation personal. And I'm
Starting point is 00:01:18 an enamorado of the great fulars, of the great mythos, of the great legends, because I'm conscious also of the power that can't have in the life of a person. Because they're in the stories for that we don't trap in and it's that
Starting point is 00:01:32 you're saying, no knows who anybody that, with a story that he's got more or less, no he has changed in some way. That is a grand question, and the response that you'd say, the answer to the histories,
Starting point is 00:01:45 the legends, those that are the those are the people of the world of the world of the
Starting point is 00:01:51 we're doing with a world that we're with a world that's a world that supera. For that
Starting point is 00:01:59 series like the war of galaxies took a lot much more
Starting point is 00:02:04 the things the things that's but for the history I'm
Starting point is 00:02:10 fascinated now I'm back to see the me, he's all the eight
Starting point is 00:02:14 films, is a story? For sure. There's a lot of many stories that are, and we are always
Starting point is 00:02:21 because they're because they're a point. Between the world and a world and a world that's
Starting point is 00:02:26 the world, it has two characteristics. First, something in our own is real in some
Starting point is 00:02:32 measure, and in second, it's a second of, it's I'm going to I'm going to
Starting point is 00:02:38 put to not to give us. There's an hospital infantil in Cincinnati and
Starting point is 00:02:43 did that demonstrated that that read the children favor of the general, the memory, the capacity
Starting point is 00:02:49 imaginative, the perception of the reason of the world. We're going to know, when one
Starting point is 00:02:56 when one gets trapped in the sense of the word that's trapado by a legend,
Starting point is 00:03:02 for a myth or a history, although it's a mindire, the inconscient begins to
Starting point is 00:03:08 vibra with that with that question, and when the inconsient vibra, vibran other
Starting point is 00:03:14 things. Vibran in our cells, vibran our systems, vibran our organs,
Starting point is 00:03:20 of a way that still not we're not much that's that's like a
Starting point is 00:03:25 kind of a that's a and that a child, a adult
Starting point is 00:03:32 I've told stories that I've said, because me have been
Starting point is 00:03:37 the impact that have been people are something that's something
Starting point is 00:03:40 that Lamentably, we've got a catalogued like, those are things. Those are you doing those are those are tontneries.
Starting point is 00:03:47 No, the mythos, the great legends, have over-vibed the pass of the time,
Starting point is 00:03:53 have survived the impulso of the science that only is the only can make, thanks
Starting point is 00:04:00 that are capable of dimensions profound and make our mind and make resonar
Starting point is 00:04:07 our spirit. But that there one one thing, I just I've got to agree with
Starting point is 00:04:10 to ask him. I'm a Rannin Kasiari that's one of the great contaders of the contenders of
Starting point is 00:04:13 an great deal of a little to listen to two minutes three minutes, marvellous and he said
Starting point is 00:04:20 you know, that they're the stories that they're the first we're doing that's the first we're
Starting point is 00:04:26 when the human, when he was what they're doing it was to what they've been
Starting point is 00:04:32 that they're behind of that that's that that that's, and at the final, for the
Starting point is 00:04:39 scriptura it would have a lot of time. I think in that relation oral to tell
Starting point is 00:04:44 history is part of the property of the real history of the human. Yes, Aristotle said that
Starting point is 00:04:49 the person human wants, he wants, we're doing we're we're a moment,
Starting point is 00:04:55 where some animals, they're coming to other, where you need to you, then we're
Starting point is 00:05:01 to come to get a explanation. So, we've we've got a way we're
Starting point is 00:05:06 serve as a guide. We rebaugge the tension of the non-knowed, of what we can
Starting point is 00:05:11 understand, of what we don't know we're in a mal explanation than not any kind of
Starting point is 00:05:17 any type of explanation. And effectively in the example, in the world in the
Starting point is 00:05:22 world Greco-Latino, the great mythos of the of the world. I'm
Starting point is 00:05:36 that I've read with much profounded with with a lot of much attention with a covening of the
Starting point is 00:05:43 seventh book of the republic and I don't know there's way to put a way
Starting point is 00:05:49 that clear and creative and creative because some people see in a reality and others
Starting point is 00:05:56 can't you can't you can't you can't but you can't another but with
Starting point is 00:06:00 the cavern of Platon written after 2,500 years you you understand perfectly
Starting point is 00:06:05 why those who have been out of the cavern not consigued that those who are they're in there and why those are in the only reality
Starting point is 00:06:16 is the that they is the great value of the mythos and that for example he used a much jose and Lucas when
Starting point is 00:06:24 the the same the same the great mythologist he began to apply in the discursos of the
Starting point is 00:06:32 characters of Lucas Skywalker of Jodda etc etc, all what is in the mites, the encounter with the sombra, the aliads, the
Starting point is 00:06:41 enemies, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the thing is a-and-a-all-you-a-counter, and you have to adaptate, and all the myths, in the fund, the mythos, that have soaried the past of the time, if you
Starting point is 00:06:56 you'd have asked, and, before, you had, and then, before, you have, to, the, of the perfection of the human. So, fiftate, for example, that when, when, So, it's to destroy
Starting point is 00:07:07 that aniel, some don't want in the fellowship of the needle. Some of the people.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Because, because they're in the power. That's is jugos for the ego. And others
Starting point is 00:07:18 they're a fear, because, you know, to confront to Sauron and to all the orcos,
Starting point is 00:07:23 that's a thing a moment, and there's a little Frodo, the who no doesn't
Starting point is 00:07:30 practically , and is a person that in that in that way that's a lot of having been
Starting point is 00:07:41 able to have been able to do you know, I'm thinking there's that there's that there's a
Starting point is 00:07:47 lot of but if I heard a people to say is that is that I prefer
Starting point is 00:07:52 I'm reading books utes and I think for who I'm
Starting point is 00:07:56 mean those those they're they're they're that they're
Starting point is 00:08:00 to help to understand books of physics, that they're teaching how function the law
Starting point is 00:08:07 the law of books of cooking, but is that I mean the stories, the science fiction, like no
Starting point is 00:08:13 me apporta nothing. What first that I would do you, the first I would say I think I'm
Starting point is 00:08:20 like a surgeon, that I think I think the value of those things specificas
Starting point is 00:08:25 that are to move in the world of the matter the form, the time, the time,
Starting point is 00:08:30 the space, the physical, the medicine, the chemica, in all the engineering, in all of that, for that's a question. But what you help to transcendent the world, obviously, what you do you doer
Starting point is 00:08:41 new possibilities in your life, what you do to cross ourizontes, what you invite to a adventure and of transformation, not is the physical, not the medicine,
Starting point is 00:08:52 not is the chemical in the engineering. Are those legends that ensanche in the alma, that agudizan your mirada
Starting point is 00:09:00 for that you can't intuit that there are realities more and for that's in the impact,
Starting point is 00:09:06 not in the head, but in the heart. For that's absolutely the Lord of the
Starting point is 00:09:12 Anilos analyzed as a point of a point of a point of a bit of a
Starting point is 00:09:16 but that that means that means that means that means that we can we can
Starting point is 00:09:22 we can't we can we know because from different to
Starting point is 00:09:27 that certain that can resonate in our is
Starting point is 00:09:30 that is that is that the mythos, the legends not serve to us for that we're in our weaknesses,
Starting point is 00:09:36 for that we're our vulnerabilities, I think the grand error is when when we're when we're one or the other.
Starting point is 00:09:43 And we consider us that is useful the utilitarian. There are things that are very useful.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I remember in the programs that you've talked to a thing very one of
Starting point is 00:09:52 you're in a barca and appreciated the silence and sentiste a path interior.
Starting point is 00:09:59 That is utilitarian. It's important. That's it's a their cellars, that's they're
Starting point is 00:10:05 to put in your heart, and they're to ask you, let's ask, this moment of silence to you have
Starting point is 00:10:12 benefited, and you say, for favor, don't give us a little more of
Starting point is 00:10:16 this. You know, so, that what we do not what we benefit,
Starting point is 00:10:20 not only only the only only not only not only what we don't know we can
Starting point is 00:10:24 and, is. And now recapacitana, I'm saying, if you're in you, we've, that we've got to have been to a couple of seminars, what we've been talking to, and since, before to start, what has passed to me?
Starting point is 00:10:38 What, you have passed to you? How do you've seen? But I've got to be able to saying, was I, doing this, I'm doing, doing what? That's I'm trying to tell, the things that you pass. Sure, because we're we We have a world
Starting point is 00:10:51 where the communication every is major, the vinculation every is minor. When you tell things your, as Alberto, when I do you
Starting point is 00:10:59 want to do you and I'm we need to know, and I'm so I'm important to know that you are you know that you
Starting point is 00:11:06 do you know, then that is associated to all type of ventas in the health.
Starting point is 00:11:13 This is an thing incredible. Fifate, there's a nerve which ultimately every day
Starting point is 00:11:18 has more interest is the name the nerve vago anterior. The nerve vago
Starting point is 00:11:23 is a ram of the decim of cranial that's the bulbor and it
Starting point is 00:11:28 andirva part of the pulmone inerva the heart the
Starting point is 00:11:33 good is essential. That's the time that's not get us blocked because
Starting point is 00:11:42 one of the elements the claves for that the vago anterior function is the
Starting point is 00:11:48 vinculation affective. Fidate. The vinculation reduces the stress. The
Starting point is 00:11:54 vinculation makes that you feel that you sometimes in the moments where most
Starting point is 00:11:59 you need that you can't be you know, that you think you really, that you
Starting point is 00:12:06 want to that you appreciate, that you want to be to be a moment of
Starting point is 00:12:11 the difficulty. How not it's a Much of times is the propiti story of our life, the most impressionant of our relato. At the final, all are stories, the networks,
Starting point is 00:12:24 this phenomenon that is, to be there's been that there's the life of the people, at the final is it's to be there to be in front of, how I can't you compare
Starting point is 00:12:31 or if I'm able to be identified or not what I'm going to do you know, that's a story for that you engage or no.
Starting point is 00:12:38 It's a thing there's one of the elements claves is that you are that you are in a language
Starting point is 00:12:45 with the you can't connect to one of the most most great medical that has
Starting point is 00:12:51 existed, North American Erickson, Milton Erickson, for example, when I talked to
Starting point is 00:12:57 people of the agriculture, always they always was in that tone.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I had a couple, in a couple of a couple of a
Starting point is 00:13:09 friend my agricultural that I want much, was going to
Starting point is 00:13:12 for a moment a defiant is a person very valiant very capable and we're we're going a pair of hours
Starting point is 00:13:19 there's a pair of shillies in a place and I'm he's an thing's about things of things of
Starting point is 00:13:26 a person very intelligent and very capable and the moment I said this is this is
Starting point is 00:13:31 so simple as the thing you imagineate that there there there
Starting point is 00:13:37 and the water and the water is accustomed to go always for that surco. So,
Starting point is 00:13:44 and determined those you're going to do the same way, because you've trained a surco. If you
Starting point is 00:13:50 want to change your form of reaction to respond, you'll have to do a new surco,
Starting point is 00:13:57 going to a new space in the earth, that's biologically is called neuroplasticity and so
Starting point is 00:14:03 you'll start to the change. Well, the desped me, I got to the company
Starting point is 00:14:09 to the coach, two hours, he, he? He had been about about the things of neurociencia, of the things of psychology profound, and the man
Starting point is 00:14:17 super interested. He's got looking and said, Mario, that's of the surcos, that's come a horde. Why?
Starting point is 00:14:25 Because it's a language. A person, a more of a city, that has been in the camp, no,
Starting point is 00:14:30 he's been in the television, well, to talk to say, what's the first is that
Starting point is 00:14:36 you have to understand the context. If the protagonist, not is the protagonist, is the person is the person, is the the second place. The second
Starting point is 00:14:43 has to be very atent to his language no-verbal, to see really is, he's, he's, he's captaining, no? And then, I think it's fundamental to recognize in your conversation
Starting point is 00:14:57 the difficulties for those that are the people. A, I mean, a, one conversation that's enganching not sule's a conversation where someone does a doctrine, no a plaitica.
Starting point is 00:15:10 It's someone that's a difficulty of the luchat, the difficulty of the moment, can empathize with that.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I've passed for a difficult and then offer us a proposal a better a alternative creative.
Starting point is 00:15:25 So, if not resuena in our interior, it's very difficult that we
Starting point is 00:15:30 can't with us or because it's because it is on the
Starting point is 00:15:35 the Siente for below and no he's Sient at the same level, it's a
Starting point is 00:15:39 not a thing that's a thing that's a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a question.
Starting point is 00:15:46 A lot of a story that you do you you all final you're you're you're
Starting point is 00:15:52 and then I said that your books are very utiles have many stories to then
Starting point is 00:15:56 then you do you know, that at you know? Sure, for me the world
Starting point is 00:16:00 to be to be what more me important is to get to the decide, fundamentally is the
Starting point is 00:16:07 inconscient. So, to me interest to get to the inconsiente profound. Logically,
Starting point is 00:16:13 the conscience me has to give to say things that are things that not are insensatats, because I
Starting point is 00:16:19 don't know those things would be to get more ondo. You have to get more on.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And if not you get that long, you're to have that you're
Starting point is 00:16:29 going to have a time? There's a fulula that's of the rei Arturo,
Starting point is 00:16:40 when Gowain, that was the sovereign of the king of the king, he was over the time, all they had
Starting point is 00:16:47 adventures. So, the re, he had to all the because the Ray Arturo said,
Starting point is 00:16:52 nobody will say, nobody can't aventura. And I think that nobody
Starting point is 00:16:58 passed a hungry. I'd say, that there had been there, there were
Starting point is 00:17:01 to everybody and then to happen, and and, and, and,
Starting point is 00:17:04 it A story very beautiful, and I think it's going to resonate in many of our own-yent. Apparece the Santo Greal covered by a paink relucient. Apparece the ante of all the caballeros, and, of a repent,
Starting point is 00:17:19 disappears. And then, Wayne, the sobrino, says, I propose, that we'll do you know a juryment. All will be to look the santo grial,
Starting point is 00:17:31 and all, for a place distinct. And then each one of the caballeros he went to Lanselot, not Lanselot,
Starting point is 00:17:41 Camelot, and entered in the bushke for a place in the dark. Because I like, I like, because
Starting point is 00:17:48 it's a booker in the life, to be a buscador of the eternal, to be a person that
Starting point is 00:17:54 am a, that he a man that's that said Campbell, that the fear that
Starting point is 00:18:00 the fear that you do enter in the cavern, is what you impede to find the treasure that you're in that and that adventure,
Starting point is 00:18:08 to me has helped much in moments of obscurity, in moments of difficulties, because you're that's part of the adventure of being a man.
Starting point is 00:18:16 So, there times that you don't know you're a thing, then you have to be in the dark,
Starting point is 00:18:23 you know, you're going to get the chispa of the experience. There are times that
Starting point is 00:18:27 you're in the mountain of the desperation, you have to sculpting a symbol of faith, of hope, of
Starting point is 00:18:33 love. And all of that, in a moment determined, when one's a single single, he's a singleent,
Starting point is 00:18:40 he can't give the aim to continue advancing. So, now it's if at final
Starting point is 00:18:44 they're in the santo-grial. It's in the person that's going convicting in the
Starting point is 00:18:51 process of buskeda. That good broche, no? Well, is that the mythos are precious.
Starting point is 00:18:57 If we're we're supposed for the legends, we have to have a legend. Maria,
Starting point is 00:19:01 until the week I'm going.

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