Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - ¿Por qué me afecta todo tanto y cómo puedo cambiarlo

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

En este nuevo episodio de Conversaciones abordamos un tema de enorme profundidad como es la alta sensibilidad, el sufrimiento que puede surgir cuando no se comprende, y la posibilidad de descubrir en ...ella una forma especialmente valiosa de estar en el mundo.A lo largo de este encuentro con Ara, reflexionamos sobre cuestiones que tocan de cerca a muchas personas.Cuando aprendemos a mirar la alta sensibilidad desde una nueva perspectiva, se abre la posibilidad del equilibrio, del autocuidado y de una relación más amable con nosotros mismos.Ojalá esta conversación no solo te invite a reflexionar, sino también a mirar con más amabilidad aquello que estás viviendo, especialmente si alguna vez has sentido que ser sensible era un peso, cuando quizá puede ser una de las expresiones más hermosas de tu fortaleza.Te comparto tres meditaciones para cuidar tu mente, tu corazón y tu descanso, creadas con todo mi cariño, para que puedas escucharlas en distintos momentos del día:🌿 ⁠Descárgalas gratis aquí⁠¡Suscríbete!MÁS INFORMACIÓN Y RECURSOS ÚTILES:📖 ⁠Libros⁠🎧 ⁠Accede a mi audionewsletter gratis⁠🎟️⁠ ⁠Entradas a la nueva conferencia 2026⁠PÁGINA WEB Y REDES SOCIALES OFICIALES:🌐⁠⁠⁠Página Web⁠⁠⁠📷⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠▶️⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠📲⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💼⁠LinkedIn⁠𝕏 ⁠Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The major The major the for a person that has this gift, this don, of the
Starting point is 00:00:05 high sensibility, the major is gestioning the situations of stress.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Situations of stress especially intense when when you see that the entorn
Starting point is 00:00:20 not not a don, as a talent if it is a thing,
Starting point is 00:00:26 what you do you do You are a human. For more that you have the don of the high-sensibility, you're a human. And you need to
Starting point is 00:00:37 discard that world emotional. The 20% of the population has a high-sensibility, and much of those people think that can get to be a laster and a crux in his
Starting point is 00:00:48 life for for etiquette or they're like a person fragile, a person devil, a person a young,
Starting point is 00:00:58 a person blandita and poor, no, poor. So, there's some
Starting point is 00:01:03 possibility to find that a lot of and to say, there's
Starting point is 00:01:09 there's something in my profound sensibility for I don't I am I'm the rara.
Starting point is 00:01:16 No, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm sensible. You, think, you're,
Starting point is 00:01:21 you're, you're you're of Cordova, and all those who have
Starting point is 00:01:24 been in In Cordoba, we admire the beauty of the city and the quality of your people. If you're
Starting point is 00:01:30 in Seville, you're going to you're in different, but also there's an enormous beauty in the city and a
Starting point is 00:01:35 great thing. That's also can be to pass in San Sebastian, you can be going to be in
Starting point is 00:01:41 in Salamanca, in Zaragoza, in Madrid, in any city of Spain. You can't you imagine
Starting point is 00:01:45 a country where all we're just exactly exactly those representations artistic are not
Starting point is 00:01:59 something about not would be a bit? No, it's the question is why we have that tendency
Starting point is 00:02:05 to etiquette us to others and to consider that the perfect the ideal what we have to be always
Starting point is 00:02:12 is always the same that I'm, that's a me that's a person because I have to say, you have to
Starting point is 00:02:22 get a castellano how she has been in a certain a situation. Why? If I see, a accent marvellousal.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I think it he adds musicality. So, in a way we pass something with those
Starting point is 00:02:36 people who are saying something that is a that's a lot not a problem.
Starting point is 00:02:46 This is very important that the people know because with our tendency
Starting point is 00:02:49 to put the etiquette we can think that is a pathology.
Starting point is 00:02:53 What, disgrace, I have a great sensitivity. It's a a rastor it.
Starting point is 00:02:58 It's a personality. The same is a not a not a not a person,
Starting point is 00:03:02 a not a person, be a part of or a but it's
Starting point is 00:03:08 a personal so that's this rassgo of the personality has a particular
Starting point is 00:03:12 that's fascinating. What makes that that a a
Starting point is 00:03:18 lastre a a don. And I'm to to sustain because it's a don.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And although a word grandiosa, I think that we're going to put to the name. It's a don't for the
Starting point is 00:03:30 second. You, if you have the sensation that our that our society has been a
Starting point is 00:03:36 very insensible? No, it's not that we're a different to the suffering
Starting point is 00:03:44 human? No, it perhaps that we need we need some chutes
Starting point is 00:03:51 tremendous of dopamine to be a little content in the life. It's a casuality that precisely
Starting point is 00:03:58 the people that have that's a extraordinary of the sensibility, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:05 for that vibrates more, resonas, more with what one person is experimenting more, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:11 and then the moments intense, bonitos, of the life, so you're people that
Starting point is 00:04:19 when you go to the natural of the nature of the nature, you can't get it in the natural what is happening in the naturalness. What curious, that,
Starting point is 00:04:28 for example, the practice meditative, the practice of mindfulness buska precisely to augment the sensibility. For example, meta, the meditation of the called Loving Kinds Meditation, the meditation
Starting point is 00:04:43 of the love and the compassion, is a meditation that what is to make us to sensible to the suffering of the other person. We also to be more generous in to share the spirit. And curiously, in this society,
Starting point is 00:05:00 that every way is more d'Ura, result that persons that have this don, this talent, they're like that not encahant. And me came to the memory, the movie, some movies of Superman, the man of acero,
Starting point is 00:05:15 where this young, when was a new, not encahava because he was able to feel
Starting point is 00:05:22 more than the rest of the people were as a rarro and it was a superman.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So this is the first. I think we have to put the things
Starting point is 00:05:31 things in the situation and the high sensitivity is
Starting point is 00:05:35 the high capacity to to capture and this
Starting point is 00:05:40 is fundamental because if someone you say that
Starting point is 00:05:44 you you reinterpreted, and you say, what grand sensibility I've, that change in the words, you know, has a change in how you live that talent that you have. So, the
Starting point is 00:05:58 that the major part of the people do not mean that what they are that is the correct. A lot of the many years, the major part of the medical,
Starting point is 00:06:07 generate or had sanguies in the patients for that they were the more part of the medical.
Starting point is 00:06:14 It was the correct, no, it was that the majority, the 80% of the people can't think that a person that a person that is a person fragile, no, I mean that is in the truth. And, the investigation mustra that not is so. Dime, if what I'm going to do is
Starting point is 00:06:37 of some help or no? Yes. Yes, it's because for me, during many years, has been, well, that's, a laster, in the sense of why I have to feel who has
Starting point is 00:06:51 to get to the button to feel so the when I go, me can't so much
Starting point is 00:06:56 I'm so I've been a living thinking that I'm going to find nothing positive
Starting point is 00:07:03 and, well, for circumstances of my life, if I think,
Starting point is 00:07:07 I think, if I know, I was the medicine that I wanted to do
Starting point is 00:07:13 was because the life me to try other other to to get
Starting point is 00:07:17 to get to that he to find that he a point of a little a house
Starting point is 00:07:24 a grillo in my head in my head to no you know
Starting point is 00:07:28 you see that you see you know and I
Starting point is 00:07:33 know I know it's curious you you know you know
Starting point is 00:07:37 I'm so you know my formation in surgery pediatic
Starting point is 00:07:41 what How difficult is for a surgeon, operate a a new? What difficult is?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Because the level of sensibility augmenta. You see a person a
Starting point is 00:07:51 fragile. And resulta that you that you have a sensibility
Starting point is 00:07:56 you, you're dedicating since three years, all the days a
Starting point is 00:08:02 time important to start with children in a hospital
Starting point is 00:08:08 very recognized internationally childrenally, children who are in processes oncological, perecate tumors malign,
Starting point is 00:08:19 and some of them go from this plan, and, so, you are with this is very important for all those who you
Starting point is 00:08:28 are going to be a fragile a person that has has been how his how his high sensibility, his capacity to empathize,
Starting point is 00:08:41 his capacity to experimented compassion, he has led to the place probably more than the most due to be able to be in the point of view of view of medical, in the oncology pediatrics. If it is certain that many children, unfortunately, are in advance, others not stand in the end. And, of actually,
Starting point is 00:08:56 you have been with children that not have gone to do that. So it is fundamental for that nobody that recognize in-s-s-simis-missue, or in-simisness, this high-sensibility, consider that we're talking of fragility.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And when someone he says, what fragile are or what you're or what-jorn-er- or what-jorn-er-ers, not you're not you're
Starting point is 00:09:19 against the other person, because what is expressing not is mald- is ignorance, and not I don't know
Starting point is 00:09:25 at the point of the point of the point of the disprece, is that really, and for these conversations
Starting point is 00:09:29 what they want to help to expand the a reality. A see what I'm going to to say has a sense for
Starting point is 00:09:38 you, the major the major a question for a person that has this gift,
Starting point is 00:09:43 this don, of the high sensibility, the major the major is gestioner
Starting point is 00:09:50 the situations of stress. Situations of stress especially intense when you know
Starting point is 00:09:58 that the environment not know is a don't as a don
Starting point is 00:10:02 like a talent, if it's a little bit like a laster. This is true or no? Yes, it's true. It's really that I said
Starting point is 00:10:11 that I went to the people who want, the people of my family, my around, obviously, you know what they're like
Starting point is 00:10:17 in the children, but it was like very contradictory. How is possible that you are so sensible and
Starting point is 00:10:23 you're so that blandita, let me call them as you, you can't entererer because at final you
Starting point is 00:10:31 do you coges carino you see how you guys, but at the day next they're not so you're thinking it's thinking now,
Starting point is 00:10:41 you know, you know, you're going to back to this is very very true, the this is a
Starting point is 00:10:45 very to, to your life? You know, to be to be to be and not
Starting point is 00:10:49 only only I found the benefit but I found without without any any
Starting point is 00:10:55 kind of of disinteres and I'm the world to do and I
Starting point is 00:10:59 get and me I've got more gratitude than the from the that I do. So I think
Starting point is 00:11:06 that is very contradictory. I'm a very that I'm sometimes. But, of the
Starting point is 00:11:12 really can. And many times when there are many problems outside of that's that
Starting point is 00:11:18 I'm going, all that all that all this force that I have to the hospital and
Starting point is 00:11:23 to my life, and I'm I'm Who can you know between the hospital the Su and the
Starting point is 00:11:33 Retiro. There's a pass of peatones and I think, the retreat is full of light,
Starting point is 00:11:37 of naturalness, the new people who's doing, of people doing people doing people, eating to get
Starting point is 00:11:43 to pay to the patos. And you pass a pass on a petton and you
Starting point is 00:11:48 and you find you something something something something it's like the
Starting point is 00:11:54 two parts and only there there's there there's a there
Starting point is 00:11:57 there's a So, I mean, I'm a lot of all the whole people have
Starting point is 00:12:03 to pass for that path to put up to put in the importance to what there's
Starting point is 00:12:09 that's that that's equilibriar the problems that is saying, mother me
Starting point is 00:12:16 I'm going to be to this when there problems so, so,
Starting point is 00:12:20 so, so much is my problem, but there are to relativiziz there,
Starting point is 00:12:24 there are there are there, there are parents that are a little I mean, I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:28 I don't, I can't even just go to literally. Well, you know, I'm
Starting point is 00:12:32 not quite. So, I'm so I'm know this family. No, I know
Starting point is 00:12:38 this family. But there is a thing that you know did you in medicine,
Starting point is 00:12:43 but that empathy you to be to give to a mother.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And, certainly you will get that response. And me has
Starting point is 00:12:53 got many many many that I've been in my house, I've had been in my
Starting point is 00:12:59 house. Let's see. The think paradoxical is the thing that really
Starting point is 00:13:04 it's a matter of the thing that is what it is what is the one or the other and
Starting point is 00:13:09 no, the other. So the first that result fascinating in your story
Starting point is 00:13:16 of your story of that I'm that's that you don't have to blocker, anulner,
Starting point is 00:13:23 your old sensibility entering in the place, in the space, in the hospital where it was what was what was over the upper high sensitivity? Well, no, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:32 you do you do those abrazos, it's important, maybe, to make a little paradita and explain what you're when you
Starting point is 00:13:42 do you do when you do not from the courtesy of the education, but from the desire to to accompany
Starting point is 00:13:49 to a mother that will to a child, a father who will to lose a his son, or the time that that's a brazo
Starting point is 00:13:56 produces various things. It's important that you know that you know, for you are so necessary in this world, we're able to in our ignorance to understand it or no. And why, although you don't study this medicine, you're
Starting point is 00:14:14 acting as an extraordinary doctora? You'll be to tell you. The moment in that you does that brazo, the person that receives that that is a brazo, that's under those levels of stress
Starting point is 00:14:25 indescriptible, under a tension brutal. In that moment, biochemically experimented
Starting point is 00:14:36 a liberation of oxytocina. The oxytocina, the hormona of the amor, produces immediately a disconnection
Starting point is 00:14:45 of the age of stress. That means that you are doing to the health of
Starting point is 00:14:50 that mother, to comfort of that mother or of that father and to that in the relation with his child, it's a a relation much more calida and much
Starting point is 00:14:59 less full of tension, not because he wants to express that tension, but because for the inside is in pure evolution. Number two, with that
Starting point is 00:15:07 you're starting what you're called the nerve vago anterior of the other person. The nerve vago anterior
Starting point is 00:15:14 is the nerve more important in the recuperation of an organism. It is that you you just
Starting point is 00:15:19 you just are helping that mother to recoverers. And as we're going to spejors, that mother, that father, when they're with their son, they're saying
Starting point is 00:15:30 something that's that's helping to that he's doing. He's a longer the life, that is possible that but if,
Starting point is 00:15:38 but if you get to a way different, look at what paradoxical, I, that resulta that you
Starting point is 00:15:44 wanted to have studied medicine and not studied medicine, and you are exercising the medicine
Starting point is 00:15:51 more beautiful, that is the medicine of the love. Because when it's a matter, in the practice, the medicine, not is it's not doing, veradal medicine. It's not doing something technical, something scientific, but it's a quality of human.
Starting point is 00:16:04 For other side, fichate, your high sensibility you have done a level very elevated of the same.
Starting point is 00:16:14 You're a woman very young, you are in the 30 years, and you You've done a level of sabbrious, you've done that you've
Starting point is 00:16:21 done a simple pass of natural, you know, and a place and a place of suffering. And you've
Starting point is 00:16:36 seen the two dimensions of the life, the dimension gozosa and the dimension dolorousa.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And you you know, that the life is so. There are many that not have
Starting point is 00:16:48 high sensibility, they're very list and they are very d'n't very
Starting point is 00:16:55 solid, they're not they're as they're like if were more and they're, and they
Starting point is 00:17:03 do the beautiful the Retiro Madrid-Madrieneo the sun the and the sun,
Starting point is 00:17:09 the paratito and the arboles and when when the part difficult of the
Starting point is 00:17:14 life, the the disease, the beheat, the poverty, the poverty, they're unded. You know, you've unded? How will be
Starting point is 00:17:22 a single? A person that's unste, how will be a fragile? Is that we're saying fragile to what
Starting point is 00:17:33 a solidness like the acer. We're calling to the man of a-sir- Superman, a
Starting point is 00:17:39 man fragile. A woman of a-o-o- a-oh-a-much- This is important-simportantism because it helps to see the other perspective. Dichael, what's going to be
Starting point is 00:17:53 when you captas much? It's like a sponge. A sponge is a lot. So, you're you're jenas of emotions. What occurs when you do you're ines of emotions? That you're a human. For more that you've got
Starting point is 00:18:07 the don of the alt-sensibility, you're a man. And you You need to discargar that world emotional. Necesses moments of the descanso, you need to
Starting point is 00:18:21 take you passos for that Retireean or for the precious parks that are in Korda or for any
Starting point is 00:18:28 park beautiful that in all the cities Spanual. So, you need to give
Starting point is 00:18:34 those passos, need you you need to make and time, moments to
Starting point is 00:18:39 start with you moment's for to recordart that what you is a laster is a don't moments
Starting point is 00:18:46 to record that because you are you are in this world there people are people who
Starting point is 00:18:50 are people who are that you are you you're able to distinguish
Starting point is 00:18:58 the two dimensions of the life and accept them and both knowing
Starting point is 00:19:05 that there's there's a simple pass of zebra that no
Starting point is 00:19:08 there a distance, a embergadour gigantesque, there's a simple pass of zebra, one can't
Starting point is 00:19:13 one can't one can't. So, all this is important very much, because if not,
Starting point is 00:19:20 as the sponge, it's a water, you're you're you're of emotions,
Starting point is 00:19:27 and if not you liberas for your dimension human, for our dimension
Starting point is 00:19:32 human, there, there can produce a level of stress that you get
Starting point is 00:19:39 You have to be to be you need to be because not only for you myself, but because you're taking a case a
Starting point is 00:19:45 work a function very important in the life. I have to say, Mario, that me has been a
Starting point is 00:19:51 long of the years to find the part positive. Yes, me has costed much.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I've had to think to say, because I have to think so I'm going to feel with
Starting point is 00:20:05 that's a amount, and then when I I'm, I'm very very strong. I mean,
Starting point is 00:20:09 I can keep able to get to keep in that way, I'm costed much to find that
Starting point is 00:20:14 positive. And I think there's many people that we're seeing that is going to say, Joling,
Starting point is 00:20:20 I'm I'm going to find a positive because it is a right, because it's a
Starting point is 00:20:25 rachgo. To me me, I'm I'm a word, to me, I'm
Starting point is 00:20:28 a lot, to me, oh' a part positive. A me has costed many years,
Starting point is 00:20:40 much, much, many, I'm going to know, but it has been and what
Starting point is 00:20:46 has been in a group, I still have been my sensibility, but I
Starting point is 00:20:51 have seen a brilli and that brilli is the that's the that's the people
Starting point is 00:20:58 there's there's that I think that can get to to hear to hear
Starting point is 00:21:03 to be a question. And I'm that still uses words, as my cruz,
Starting point is 00:21:10 like, et cetera, and so you still, you're experimenting that's a that's a
Starting point is 00:21:17 thing, it's been, it's been, a way a way of, of, of saying,
Starting point is 00:21:24 something to have to get to get to to me not me, no, no,
Starting point is 00:21:28 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:21:31 let me take one a question, if you If the the entorno in the
Starting point is 00:21:36 you had created that can be great a great we're
Starting point is 00:21:43 focusing in the time of the environment you you you have
Starting point is 00:21:49 you in the college in the family and your high
Starting point is 00:21:53 sensibility you have said that are that that
Starting point is 00:21:57 great don that put in this level of empathy that
Starting point is 00:22:00 that can that this capacity to have this capacity of alexia to make and not
Starting point is 00:22:05 amortiguar the the that I'm going to put a lot, you think that you
Starting point is 00:22:11 have been you know, I've been a have been a family marvellousous and I
Starting point is 00:22:15 have a great, but it is really that after X year, the term
Starting point is 00:22:20 of the term of the non he was not, it was not
Starting point is 00:22:25 not he had before the termed, then I, so, if I had heard
Starting point is 00:22:30 I've heard is that is very sensible and in instead of to hear of I've heard of it's
Starting point is 00:22:36 that's a I'm not I'm not not because my family not you're not doing I'm
Starting point is 00:22:41 I'm adored but I heard more that's that wholing what don can get to get to
Starting point is 00:22:47 to get a not a high sensibility with is capable to is able
Starting point is 00:22:54 to put in the place no not it not it was not
Starting point is 00:22:58 so I'm So I've heard a term of to say, well, I'm the rarer, well, I've seen the, I've seen
Starting point is 00:23:05 a, you know, a, you know, a, it's not, I'm not, nobody,
Starting point is 00:23:10 no, he's not, but at it's more, it's more, it's more about, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:15 about us that's your family. Yes. No, we're talking, for so I do, we're
Starting point is 00:23:19 doing, we're just exactly, in the mark of, the reaction of the person,
Starting point is 00:23:25 against another man that has a self-sensibility and this is very important that we'll presteen
Starting point is 00:23:32 attention to us. We're spectres front to see a spejo
Starting point is 00:23:38 a spejo to a spejo that means that we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:23:45 saying if I me me they're that I'm not that they're
Starting point is 00:23:51 that they're to say me myself that Blandito I'm, that Blandito I'm going to Blandito I'm going to be a
Starting point is 00:23:59 normal power to activate images, to activate sensations, to activate sentiments, to activate emotions. Well, the first, very important, it was I said,
Starting point is 00:24:09 Ortega and Gazette, Jose Ortegey Gassett, I am I in my circumstances. It's very important that we all we have the sensibility
Starting point is 00:24:16 and people that have this don't of the high sensibility of not to not to not use words,
Starting point is 00:24:25 like you're blandita, you're fragile, that you're a lot of because it's a sensation that's a
Starting point is 00:24:31 person to be a little bit is what it's a thing. Dichio that's a said that
Starting point is 00:24:39 we don't depend to all to that the environment to change for that we're
Starting point is 00:24:45 I'm my circumstances is not I'm only my circumstance so this is
Starting point is 00:24:50 very important that you really values what you have. Valories that is a don and that all don't have a challenge. Recurrected that Superman not was accepted by the
Starting point is 00:25:04 other, because it was different. And then result that he saved the most of the movie. Sin him, the earth would have disappeared. Utilizing this as a metaphor, or like an analogy, is the same. It's all of, I mean, all has a
Starting point is 00:25:19 one side that it's a more luminous and another that does that your side more luminous is that that has that
Starting point is 00:25:26 level of empathy that much people that has that level to enjoy that people desire to
Starting point is 00:25:32 have to have it. The side is that you gestiones that that's a
Starting point is 00:25:38 world affective and that you can get a a mind
Starting point is 00:25:41 a part of some people that are some that some
Starting point is 00:25:45 a lack of the knowledge of the is the high sensitivity they're
Starting point is 00:25:50 in this disconciviet not is a matter of mald it's a problem of
Starting point is 00:25:54 a non- so if you do you do you then you'll
Starting point is 00:26:00 you the equilibrium not is in saying I'm
Starting point is 00:26:05 to be more sympathetic I'm to connect less
Starting point is 00:26:08 with the suffering and I have to connect
Starting point is 00:26:10 less with the I have to have to have to have to that's the
Starting point is 00:26:14 equilibrium there is a good that's a thing artificial is a makey
Starting point is 00:26:19 that's not that the point of view they're saying I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:26:26 this this enormous don I'm doing to people
Starting point is 00:26:29 in moments that so super difficult I'm I'm when
Starting point is 00:26:33 a person is passing it while although with
Starting point is 00:26:37 the words I say is saying that phenomenal
Starting point is 00:26:39 is gritty with his language no verbal, I need help, even with his words, say, to give to
Starting point is 00:26:48 you know, and for that you can be there when more he needs, and also you have
Starting point is 00:26:52 a challenge. The challenge is that you have to know, gestionar
Starting point is 00:26:58 what you do you do you know, know, to do you also, you also
Starting point is 00:27:05 you need to have that's that you need to keep a distance emotional,
Starting point is 00:27:11 that also you need to put limits, that you can't do you for complete to all, at all hours, because also
Starting point is 00:27:21 you need to be a act of egoism, it's an act of intelligence. Quantto more you're more you're more you're more
Starting point is 00:27:32 you're to enjoy the moments bonit and more you're to help in the moments difficult.
Starting point is 00:27:39 As well, it says, pardon me that you have cuted, as well, there's a part that, a person altamently sensible, is a lot of so-saint-a-saint-gri-o, is it a lot of she-miss-mim. And it makes, always there's like a voice-cita
Starting point is 00:27:54 that you're like, but you were like, but you were, of crystal, but you, but you, but easy, easy, easy, and it's a, it's a dialogue constantly
Starting point is 00:28:05 the thing you have to do with that little little that that's kind of there. And the hospital, my children, me have served like to
Starting point is 00:28:16 confront me to that voice and say, is that, look, in the the way, in the
Starting point is 00:28:22 road in the that I'm that I'm putting me a maskary, and I'm doing to the, I've crossed, then I'm
Starting point is 00:28:34 that's a voice, and that cruises this pass of peatone, both to the thing, that is the retiro, as the most dolorous.
Starting point is 00:28:42 So, many times dole much to have that that's a great-sensibility because I hear
Starting point is 00:28:47 much that that that need to you know, I need to be you know, I need,
Starting point is 00:28:54 because I'm because I'm gotated, I need, Mary, there was a thing that I
Starting point is 00:28:59 had I was I met in the camera and I said, I mean, I'll get
Starting point is 00:29:07 the night the night dure much many hours of the because when I was a ray of the
Starting point is 00:29:15 house for my house the means to confront me to know to the other
Starting point is 00:29:21 24 hours of day another 24 hours of that that that's I was
Starting point is 00:29:28 in the camera and I said for favor for favor that the night would be
Starting point is 00:29:31 that the night I was a lot of in fact that I'm saying thanks for another day new,
Starting point is 00:29:38 it was another time I'm many hours for the time. And I'm a pain, I'd
Starting point is 00:29:45 say it, me'd be a pain, but, well, I think that that I'm a little
Starting point is 00:29:52 more. Look, very important what you are saying, when you cruzas from the
Starting point is 00:29:58 hospital the child, the child, the to the retiro, you you, paris in a moment I've terminated, in the
Starting point is 00:30:05 pass of Cedar and you're going to to say to the coaches, paren the motors, no pittin. Has done that ever? No, because
Starting point is 00:30:13 I'm atropelling. No, exactly. Very well, said, because you're atropelling. The strategy with the voice interior that you're using
Starting point is 00:30:21 is profoundly contraproducente. It's, if you go to the Retire. Your focus has to
Starting point is 00:30:28 be in the Retiree. In the park, the retiro. No, in to say to
Starting point is 00:30:34 the conductors that can't. What do? You don't have to do you have to
Starting point is 00:30:39 that voice interior. You don't have to that cacophonia. You
Starting point is 00:30:44 don't have to be that the root because if they say, if you
Starting point is 00:30:49 say, parens and whatever, at the one despist you
Starting point is 00:30:52 get to get the Resist, persist. So, you what you have to do, at least in what I know, is enfocke your attention, not in contraresting that voice, in intent to convince that voice of how strong that is now and that you're not fragile in absolute, because you're not being agorndo,
Starting point is 00:31:15 you're trying to eat. Paradoxically, is so. your focus is to do the things that you're and that voice
Starting point is 00:31:27 and that having to receive your attention will start to call yourself for that's
Starting point is 00:31:36 so it's so important that you practice the meditation because the meditation what
Starting point is 00:31:41 is to help to not to not to not to to let's
Starting point is 00:31:45 to give it to something when you go to that cross that pass of Cobra
Starting point is 00:31:50 of the of the New Jesus to the Park of Retire to the Park of Retire to the I'm going to I'm trying to that's atent to cross the PASA
Starting point is 00:32:01 not that someone despised not you see but not you're not the the the road of the motors
Starting point is 00:32:06 of the the coaches not you don't if one pita if one one goes to another
Starting point is 00:32:10 other is a coach another coach you you go to you go to the is the
Starting point is 00:32:16 meditation you what what does is to to focus in what you interest in your
Starting point is 00:32:21 body, in your in your respiration in your sensations and not in the
Starting point is 00:32:26 rudimental so many people that to transform that to make that you
Starting point is 00:32:32 have to have to have to get to to someone. It's like you want
Starting point is 00:32:37 to that the high in those children, in that park, in retina, in that and that caret, and that's caret, and that whatever that hea, yeah, with your form of being, have received the best explanation.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And, he'll say, oh yeah, this woman that has all the world for delante, dedic a time of his life, something so defiant as to help to families in moments of
Starting point is 00:33:14 of such difficulties and is capable of that have that sabred to understand that a simple pass of Cepra mark the difference between the gozo and the suffering. I want to be like
Starting point is 00:33:25 she. That is the difference. No, we have to explain that they can permit that they can how they're to be if
Starting point is 00:33:35 our energy is going to the explication and not to the vivance of that don't natural that you
Starting point is 00:33:40 that is very important. So your new in the inner is a much better than what you are much better than what you
Starting point is 00:33:54 think your your inner interior is celebrating that the woman that is who is your your new
Starting point is 00:34:02 is doing a party a year because A. A past of your great
Starting point is 00:34:10 youth a woman because Aara is of a life of a person fragile and blandita. He's living the life of a woman that is of acer.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Recordemes that the acer is elastic. Not as the yerro that is a goodefficient of elasticity. And then, that's, that is a new is celebrating the woman that is. What is the other says,
Starting point is 00:34:38 you have to repair a little bit to repair that that she has to repair that that she has to be a So what you can do So what you can do is to do what you're doing
Starting point is 00:34:50 being what you're and not to and not to that cacophonia absurd that is the integration of a series of voices disfunctional and
Starting point is 00:34:59 that they're still to that the way to to liberate us to let us to show what we have to
Starting point is 00:35:07 do you to not present attention. No you're you're not you can't You're going to be you You're taking the attention
Starting point is 00:35:14 where you interest, your park, the retiro to do you do that's wonderful, the hospital to
Starting point is 00:35:21 start with the people in the moments most doloros and that's you're simply to
Starting point is 00:35:27 recover to to renavart to renavartes as a human, for the very it.
Starting point is 00:35:32 You know? I'm very good. Careidos, oh'al this conversation has been of value,
Starting point is 00:35:40 for me it has been much No one many occasions in the life of encounter persons as extraordinary as as Aara, that they can
Starting point is 00:35:48 teach them too. I can't share things, fruit of my study a long of the years. Ara has trailed a lot more valuable, that is a
Starting point is 00:35:59 conocimient based on the experience. Much thanks, Aara. And a brother for all.

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