Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - Recupera tu atención

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

Nuestra memoria y capacidad de atención están constantemente desafiadas en un mundo lleno de estímulos digitales y sobrecarga de información. En esta conversación con mi amigo Alberto Herrera en ...COPE, exploramos cómo funciona la memoria en nuestro cerebro, el papel del hipocampo en la consolidación de recuerdos y la importancia de la neuroplasticidad para seguir aprendiendo a cualquier edad.Descubrimos por qué ciertos recuerdos se fijan con mayor intensidad, el impacto de la emoción en la memoria y cómo entrenar nuestra capacidad de atención en una sociedad que nos empuja al cortoplacismo. Además, analizamos la relación entre la tecnología, el déficit de atención y la capacidad de aprendizaje, y cómo pequeños cambios en nuestros hábitos pueden ayudarnos a recuperar el foco y mejorar nuestra salud mental.Espero que encuentres en este episodio inspiración y estrategias para mejorar tu memoria y enfoque en tu día a día.Página Web:  ⁠⁠⁠https://marioalonsopuig.com/ ⁠⁠⁠Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/marioalonsopuig/⁠⁠⁠Youtube: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@MarioAlonsoPuigOficial⁠⁠⁠Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/MarioAlonsoPuigOficial⁠⁠⁠Entradas a la nueva conferencia 2025: ⁠⁠⁠https://marioalonsopuig.com/gira-2025/

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Starting point is 00:00:23 those those people that want to think in great, and feel in great, and living in great. I'm the Dr. Mary Alonso Puch, I'm invite to live with me this adventure of discovery and growthimient personal.
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Starting point is 00:01:37 you don't I think that you've studied that that's studied, that we've studied, that's, there's, have been, in the,
Starting point is 00:01:44 in the epochal, you know, you're a man a young and dynamic of the film. Well, let's see. The theme of
Starting point is 00:01:52 the memory, that much of the memory, that many of course, if all you can't, not, the memory, is
Starting point is 00:01:58 very important, because, the fact, the intelligence tira of the memory. And because there's a
Starting point is 00:02:02 structure, of that I was a passion that I was a student of medicine, that I've tried only a part
Starting point is 00:02:08 of the Cerebrough to explain this because it's much more more easy when one you can't see. These are the
Starting point is 00:02:14 lobulos temporal of the heart inferior, not? This is the part inferior of the
Starting point is 00:02:20 lower of the part of the part superior, what the part is that I have cuted the lobulos
Starting point is 00:02:23 frontals, parietal, occipitales for that so. And here is still a specied,
Starting point is 00:02:27 a specey there's a structure that looks like a grand lombry and that if it we'd
Starting point is 00:02:34 form of that. For so it's called hippocampo like caballitos of the mar.
Starting point is 00:02:38 This is a structure important in the memory. For that you can't have a
Starting point is 00:02:45 record firm that you do you perduring the hipocampos have
Starting point is 00:02:52 been good. The memory approximately is two years in the
Starting point is 00:02:58 hippocampos before that that kept grab in the corte
Starting point is 00:03:01 cerebral. How is that the memory is going to move of the brain.
Starting point is 00:03:05 The memory is the memory is going from the hipacampos to the corteza cerebral. Of course
Starting point is 00:03:11 it's extended for the core cerebral. There are a little crueles even as
Starting point is 00:03:16 very interesting in rats trying trying to where was the memory, they
Starting point is 00:03:22 were practically the totality of the corteza cerebral and even actually
Starting point is 00:03:25 they even costable to find the time the hippocampo was
Starting point is 00:03:31 passing information to the corteza cerebral, for that that record, you have to that's a
Starting point is 00:03:37 many times when there's a lesion in the hippocampo, the person no can't record what
Starting point is 00:03:43 has happened, but if what was what was so why is so important this
Starting point is 00:03:49 central of the memory? Because the hippocampos also are great regulators
Starting point is 00:03:53 of the stress. Because just the front of them is a structure that's
Starting point is 00:03:58 a migdala that has formed almendra and that has to
Starting point is 00:04:01 to be everything with the reactions of stress. Well, if the amygdala is the acelerator, the hippocampo is the freno. I think, I think you've ever been asked, I've asked, I've said, I've said, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:04:18 make the keys, but I'll go back, and where do you, the keys? Sin of however, you record, remember where it's the city where you left, sometimes? Could it have something to have to be? All right, all of this, has to be. All right, that first, the theme of the
Starting point is 00:04:35 question of the not the thing of the not for a problem, not for a part in the cellro that's
Starting point is 00:04:40 the core torso lateral, where the the, the, the, the, the, the, the memory
Starting point is 00:04:46 a short-simony and the memory at a short-simony. You say, Mario, acuade of these seven
Starting point is 00:04:53 numbers, and I'm not, I'm, I'm not, I'm going to be problems. So,
Starting point is 00:04:57 what is, that's that has to be much with the attention. If you
Starting point is 00:04:59 a despise, you'd you're just the place the place, in other what has been to be what's going to
Starting point is 00:05:21 when we're in the, when we're when they're formandoes new connections, we're learning things, especially to do you're absolutely pukant, We're not when they're when they're in a component emotional And now
Starting point is 00:05:32 that's not no you're because to get to get that's that's what that's what most
Starting point is 00:05:37 I'm like to do this before because when we know when we when we're when we're
Starting point is 00:05:43 when we that we that's a cumul of experiences is a cumul of recurors
Starting point is 00:05:50 that you have you're you know um and and what you
Starting point is 00:05:55 and what I'm and what you go evolutioning that during the time in our is what has
Starting point is 00:06:01 what has what has been to be the memory with the neuroplasticity because I think that
Starting point is 00:06:05 the memory we're doing decisions. Sure, you know you're explained very well,
Starting point is 00:06:10 we're we're we're we're we're we're experiences great
Starting point is 00:06:16 experiences not greatables but all are experiences of those
Starting point is 00:06:19 are those can't learn so obviously the brain
Starting point is 00:06:24 is the organo that has to help to the new new changes.
Starting point is 00:06:29 You, the quantity of the change of the things that the things that
Starting point is 00:06:33 we've experienced from the plistocene two and five million of years, the era
Starting point is 00:06:39 glacial until the moment actual. So, what is, it has that has
Starting point is 00:06:45 the capacity in the Cerebro to accumulate new records and new experiences. Dado
Starting point is 00:06:51 that the hippocampo is essential in this. The neuroplasticity that, the
Starting point is 00:06:56 first, the first, the first that the describe was Don Santiago Ramon and
Starting point is 00:07:00 I'm don't know the nervous when I'm know in a little in a
Starting point is 00:07:06 question that don't that don't Santiago went to the neuroplasticity but how
Starting point is 00:07:11 is going in contra of the neuroplasticity a man that said
Starting point is 00:07:15 that he is a propone could be a a part of how is
Starting point is 00:07:19 it what is that is that is sometimes to admit
Starting point is 00:07:22 the great scientists. Well, Dichael. So, what you know, what you do you
Starting point is 00:07:28 know, when you're when you're when you're when really something you important, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:34 you're doing a thing that's brain-derived, brain-derived, neurotrophic factor. So the BDNF what does is that
Starting point is 00:07:41 cellulas in the cavities of the cedar, here, here we're, here we're, we're
Starting point is 00:07:47 like, they're getting used that's full or rachydo, and that are just in the
Starting point is 00:07:52 paredes, cellars, mother, multipotential, fiftlet the cell mother, the interesting is that are,
Starting point is 00:07:59 because they can convert in whatever they're in the problem, they're in the hippocamp
Starting point is 00:08:04 and they start to develop new projections. And in three months, approximately
Starting point is 00:08:09 they've been a newrona, with what you can't learn things new
Starting point is 00:08:13 things new the famous, genesis, genesis of new neurons. Not is that they
Starting point is 00:08:18 reproduce they form new neurons. When you, you, you,
Starting point is 00:08:23 when you start to develop new new interests, the neurons, here I'm a circuit neuronal, is a sculpture
Starting point is 00:08:31 precious, the neurons, and they're to develop some pinch- like if were in spinas.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Who think you those discovered? and Marl. Caral. Ramon and
Starting point is 00:08:45 Cajal. San Diego Ramon and Cajal. There's a a card precious written Raphael
Starting point is 00:08:48 Lorente of Naux that then I was a New York at Rkafer Institute was
Starting point is 00:08:52 a great scientific for a great single writing the spinae we're doing the ones of
Starting point is 00:08:57 a rosa and for why? Because there are new projections of new neurons.
Starting point is 00:09:03 It's like if you say you to imagine to imagine more connections more
Starting point is 00:09:07 interaction neuronal more dialogue neuronal more more more
Starting point is 00:09:11 more more knowledge more How much do you this process all the life?
Starting point is 00:09:19 Ah, is that was a question interesting, because that capacity of create connections
Starting point is 00:09:23 neuronal that makes learn more, because I'm thinking now the same it's always it's much more
Starting point is 00:09:28 easier to learn when you that's that's that's true, that's
Starting point is 00:09:32 that's because the different because the different of a set of
Starting point is 00:09:37 structures, the area of Bernic the area of broca very complex and
Starting point is 00:09:41 at the the 10 years the ventana of the apprenticeship is open. A
Starting point is 00:09:46 part of the 10 years is much more more difficult, but I learn the English and I'm very much
Starting point is 00:09:53 after that but I'm not I'm like a English, no I know my my kids and
Starting point is 00:09:58 I'm a movie and the movie the actors, the actors, but they're a certain
Starting point is 00:10:03 tone, they're I'm they're not they're not they're not sure, and my
Starting point is 00:10:07 kids, but that's capacity of create connections neuronal is
Starting point is 00:10:11 deterioring with the time? There are two moments where the capacity to generate new connections is incredibly powerful, that is in the time of the infancy, the epoch of the adolescence. There is another pico in the formation of new connections.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Dura all the life, but it's like all, Alberto, no has the same force that when we're... ...that when we're not the same force as when the adolescent is starting to enter in a world new and Necessita learn things new.
Starting point is 00:10:44 But this is a message first precious and then tremendously stimulant.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Never is a time to learn you know 40, 50, 80,
Starting point is 00:10:53 90 or 100 years. How is train the neuroplasticity? No
Starting point is 00:10:58 so it's not synonym of memory. I mean, I mean, I think one depends
Starting point is 00:11:02 of the other, but how it's that capacity to create connection?
Starting point is 00:11:06 Well, look, it perfectly how is the first with the
Starting point is 00:11:09 alimentation. The alimentation, yes, the alimentation correct produces three substances in the Cereo BDNF and GF, VGF that favor cormacetting the formation of new basso-sanguels, for what? For that come more the neurons and the formation of new neurons.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It's said, an alimentation correct, us make more intelligent, more creatives, and better the memory. Second how is it potency with the exercise physical? The exercise physical, the exercise physical aerobic,
Starting point is 00:11:39 also liberate these three substances. The brain neurotrophic factor, the factor of the
Starting point is 00:11:45 factor of the factor pro-insulinical. And what more? All what what is to learn
Starting point is 00:11:50 things new with illusion, do things new, intent things
Starting point is 00:11:55 new. That is where we go to the emotion. That that a
Starting point is 00:12:00 record so that's fix more when there something,
Starting point is 00:12:03 when there is that that the emotion about the emotion about the that not
Starting point is 00:12:09 are never neutral? If not are what are that are that are not true? A cause
Starting point is 00:12:15 neutral, then you get a say to me, to me, fission if the
Starting point is 00:12:21 is in gris or is black or is maybe gray and black well,
Starting point is 00:12:25 no me say that I'm a good, or or encounter
Starting point is 00:12:29 with a situation difficult in the case, it has has been to
Starting point is 00:12:34 get grabbed a way The amygdala, that is just here, delante of the hippocampos, the amygdala guard the element emotional. And the hippocampo, the element contextual,
Starting point is 00:12:46 the hippocampo, and it means where it's where it'sucedio, and the hippocampo the different, the words that were the important. Fifat the importance of this.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I've, I've got six years, an experience dolorous in a place that was painted of a blue-clarito. It has been the experience dolorousal,
Starting point is 00:13:09 in what she's called the middra lateral, and the site, the color, the space, in the hippocampo. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:16 I'm not I'm so, but I go, I'm into an abitation and I'm a very and I'm a
Starting point is 00:13:25 or the or the horror, clearly, naturally. The the honor is importantissimo
Starting point is 00:13:29 because we have preserved a long of many years the power olfate things that
Starting point is 00:13:35 are, that not are adequate But in the other side, in the left, I accumulate the words, if someone me said, in a moment I've terminated, and da-ya, and me
Starting point is 00:13:45 he said with a sensation of desprecue and that me calmedo, in the future, somebody will say, but I'll say, and say, and da yeah, and produce me a reaction, why do you
Starting point is 00:13:57 do you, I know, if I've said, I've said, no, no, but me has, no, and has activated that interesting. Sure, the Cerebro functions
Starting point is 00:14:06 for associations. Because I was thinking, and you and we have talked about of habits, of what it's quite
Starting point is 00:14:11 to get to a bad habit of on the and we're we're talking about many things,
Starting point is 00:14:19 of how to how to make sure the memory, of because we associate certain
Starting point is 00:14:22 to about but it's important in the life, so
Starting point is 00:14:27 in a about to you know that you want to keep
Starting point is 00:14:31 that that you can that can't complex is to romper connections neuronal?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Well, let's first principle. The Cerebrose the 2% the body is the 20%
Starting point is 00:14:43 the energy. The energy is a thing important so, if you not you don't
Starting point is 00:14:47 you're you you don't you're you're there's use it or lose it
Starting point is 00:14:55 use it use it. Use it or pired it. So, what mean,
Starting point is 00:14:57 that if if a circuit you you deus to use
Starting point is 00:15:01 that That circuit, that's circuit, is a certain so another message for the
Starting point is 00:15:07 people who want to desacers of the uncied of if they have
Starting point is 00:15:14 a positive, it's a form a new circuit and that
Starting point is 00:15:20 and that circuit and it's that you as much more you respond,
Starting point is 00:15:29 to your new decision, to more is, more is fortalecing
Starting point is 00:15:34 that new circuit and more is debiliting the other circuit. Oh, here.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Is that that's to say that the other circuit disappears? It's
Starting point is 00:15:45 not. But it is that it's a little lethargated. That's what is
Starting point is 00:15:53 that is that if one want to get a bit a bit a bit
Starting point is 00:15:57 a alcoholism the drug addiction, for suppose that
Starting point is 00:16:02 can have a life completely normal and, and it's never to keep
Starting point is 00:16:06 being being to get a and not put a certain of the temptation. Because?
Starting point is 00:16:12 Because that circuit is a little, the circuit is a dormit can
Starting point is 00:16:17 get that I have got to me. I've asked many,
Starting point is 00:16:21 I'm a question, if the capacity of pretenisage has
Starting point is 00:16:26 taken so you've learned so you've that you can't have
Starting point is 00:16:31 more memory Well, Don Santiago de a lot of Santiago thought he could have
Starting point is 00:16:40 a top in the memory that's that you can get to saturate the memory but
Starting point is 00:16:46 probably you have to have that a cumul of data that that
Starting point is 00:16:50 accumul of experiences that that that would require it would we'd
Starting point is 00:16:54 a a life a lot a life much much much more because
Starting point is 00:16:58 it's It's a place in the neurona, occupant connections
Starting point is 00:17:04 neurales, is and we know we don't know where really the
Starting point is 00:17:08 can get because not we know we know we we're we're
Starting point is 00:17:14 in a time that a amount of that interconnection global
Starting point is 00:17:19 that we can know to people to people of India
Starting point is 00:17:22 but of the internet but we also we
Starting point is 00:17:26 would make I think the human now is a fundamentally how should be
Starting point is 00:17:32 living and not for what and for why and we're we're we're in a moment
Starting point is 00:17:39 in the we've got the recompens a short plazzo constantly certainly it has
Starting point is 00:17:43 to be with the dopamine and with those those those we're
Starting point is 00:17:47 we're information clear concis and there and it's not
Starting point is 00:17:51 it's not on ondando about we're we we're
Starting point is 00:17:55 we're we're a new that's not to rondarme the kids young
Starting point is 00:18:01 are there's two people they're they're attention if they're interested to be there
Starting point is 00:18:05 is a how affect it to the neuroplasticity or how the neuroplasticity us can help to help
Starting point is 00:18:11 to get to get what we know what about with the shortopacism there
Starting point is 00:18:17 has been a called the marshmallow that are the nube the
Starting point is 00:18:20 the fire that that's so is so it so is so it's
Starting point is 00:18:24 so much so United, the first that's he's done, where a little four or
Starting point is 00:18:30 five years, he said, he'd a new called the numbs, no, that's a thing
Starting point is 00:18:35 a good a little, you know, if you don't you know when I
Starting point is 00:18:39 don't you do it and then then they putsion to see cameras for they
Starting point is 00:18:45 they're not they're so it's very very different in that in that in that
Starting point is 00:18:50 not that has been repliced putting cameras and it's very It's been a bit of the
Starting point is 00:18:55 little the little the little bit of the eyes to not see the other other side, etc. So, well, the moment in that some no resisted
Starting point is 00:19:01 and others no. The interesting is that in the first experiment, in that we used cameras, if it's the life
Starting point is 00:19:07 of those years at the long of the adult. And they were and they're impressed
Starting point is 00:19:11 at all that those people who have been able to postpone the recompens were
Starting point is 00:19:18 much better in all the dimensions than those that those that had had been
Starting point is 00:19:23 support. No, no, there's doubt that to do you that's flash of dopamine as you in the nuclear acumbens has a recompense.
Starting point is 00:19:31 It's a recompense. It's a error, living in the cortoplasism, but clarisively. Number two,
Starting point is 00:19:38 the theme of attention. This is a thing very serious. It's a thing very serious.
Starting point is 00:19:42 This is a problem. That a person just only can just can pay attention eight
Starting point is 00:19:46 seconds. Because the attention is one of the capacity more of the
Starting point is 00:19:51 Cerebrum, yeah, that all right. No, it's going to do it, it's a sudden, it's going to
Starting point is 00:19:58 sure, if I don't know I'm going to do the response more adequate, how I'm going to hear what
Starting point is 00:20:05 a person me want to make a because he is a fact that we have to take very
Starting point is 00:20:11 in serious. For that I recommend much the exercise to learn with
Starting point is 00:20:15 the book physical. And that one that one has passed the
Starting point is 00:20:19 pages, the that the person that's the person that's that's a question, well,
Starting point is 00:20:25 well, is that's a thing. But that's not for that the person is a problem,
Starting point is 00:20:29 but that's that's that's not a capacity of attention, that the zone
Starting point is 00:20:34 the zone dorsolateral of the is that is no,
Starting point is 00:20:38 and that the attention is very important. And then he's to present attention
Starting point is 00:20:42 and then then the neuroplasticity exists in all the coreteza cerebral,
Starting point is 00:20:46 it's form new new of attention and, because reverting it implic a
Starting point is 00:20:54 change of a paradigm total. We're going to use the mobile. TikTok, Instagram
Starting point is 00:21:00 not going to disappear tomorrow. No, for that's, sure, it's right,
Starting point is 00:21:05 and for that's the discipline, to say, oh, now I'm a new I'm not
Starting point is 00:21:11 the mobile, and now my phone. It's a whole the circle that around a person
Starting point is 00:21:17 to some kind of a manner, vibre in the If I'm with five friends and I'm the only that I want to present
Starting point is 00:21:24 attention, the other four are going to look at your chat and your mobile, then they're not they're doing measures at level global.
Starting point is 00:21:33 There are places, for example, in countries Nordicos where is where it's not going to the technology
Starting point is 00:21:39 in the media school. Yeah, in the college has a much the situation
Starting point is 00:21:43 of the children that are doing because you now now the bullying, well,
Starting point is 00:21:47 before the the bullying, before not only the responsibility of the professors, that are the ones that are the people who are the people are the people is that the bull-in-va-a-cassiz is that the photos
Starting point is 00:21:55 are parted between colleges, is that's a phenomenon, the globalisation is very well for some and the interconnection
Starting point is 00:22:02 is very bad for the other and that. And even as the problem, a problem invergurga that's important
Starting point is 00:22:09 that we understand that we can't make things to change but first one has to care
Starting point is 00:22:13 in the account that we're talking of things that are very relevant that
Starting point is 00:22:17 a attention, not is a tonteria, the fact that one would have a no, is a syrujano, no, is a very emphatic, it's very precise,
Starting point is 00:22:24 but the man has a problem of attention, a little, look, a me to per another, this is a
Starting point is 00:22:30 person, what happens in when, when it's a bit of when it's a bit of that's
Starting point is 00:22:37 very important. You know, you're not to establishes a connection with someone that's not you
Starting point is 00:22:42 don't you prestand attention, because the message, that not is the that is the
Starting point is 00:22:47 is the that in that moment you can transmit is oh, you know, you know, me not me interest more what they're doing more,
Starting point is 00:22:52 what they're doing on the telephone. Oh, yeah, for sure, that's great, never to hear those,
Starting point is 00:22:58 I believe, Carlos. It's all right that's the yes, yeah, Mario, a man,
Starting point is 00:23:03 a brazo, a brazo. Abrac. Ayes. A brawlah. Oh, this podcast you could be
Starting point is 00:23:13 in an inspiration to the hour to do and make

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