Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - Superar las adversidades

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

En esta entrevista con Ney Díaz en Dejando Huellas, reflexionamos cómo nos relacionamos con lo que nos sucede, especialmente si son momentos duros y de gran desafío, afecta profundamente a lo que e...se acontecimiento supone en nuestra vida.Uno de los elementos mas importantes para superar las adversidades es entender que “aunque yo no lo comprenda hay un sentido en todo lo que me sucede”.Como decía el gran filósofo español Jose Ortega y Gasset: “yo soy yo y mis circunstancias”Podemos elegir si caer en la desesperanza o abrirnos al misterio.Ojalá este podcast te haya gustado y pueda convertirse en una inspiración a la hora de despertar y florecer tu verdadero potencial.Página Web:  https://marioalonsopuig.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marioalonsopuig/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@MarioAlonsoPuigOficialFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarioAlonsoPuigOficial

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Starting point is 00:00:04 To me, the things that most me has been has been to understand that even I don't know there's a thing that
Starting point is 00:00:12 people who have been people who have been very difficult and passados durissimous have been
Starting point is 00:00:19 an example for the humanity. This is a podcast for all those people
Starting point is 00:00:28 that are people think in great, and living in great. I'm the doctor
Starting point is 00:00:34 Marie Alonso Puch, I'm I invite to be with me this adventure of this adventure of discovery and the development. Only,
Starting point is 00:00:42 maybe I get before, but we'll get us much more less less very much. Bien-been- Which is
Starting point is 00:00:55 the are the obstacles that impede to the people to get a life plen? And more
Starting point is 00:01:00 that, what strategies you're to put on those obstacles? Well, I think
Starting point is 00:01:07 we know we can here, Ne, and record the words of a grand philosopher Spanish, Jose Ortegey Gasset. This man,
Starting point is 00:01:15 de every once in a while soltable of some parts of some about these phrases a little in a manner
Starting point is 00:01:22 superficial, and I think we don't we can't see what really we really need to in this
Starting point is 00:01:27 case, Ortege Gase said, I am I and my circumstances. If we analysed the
Starting point is 00:01:33 phrase, it has a lot He's a profound because he's not he's
Starting point is 00:01:39 he's not he's not saying he's not he's the other the the other the other
Starting point is 00:01:48 for the for the life for because if no all it would
Starting point is 00:01:54 if I'm sure in the life then I'm going to be well I'm
Starting point is 00:01:59 but I'm going to but it includes the factor circumstances is that there
Starting point is 00:02:03 there's that there They find more difficulties in their to the plenitude than other people. For example, a, a,
Starting point is 00:02:13 a new that not's in an an entorn where no, she's a care, where not he doesn't
Starting point is 00:02:19 he gets, and even it he can, it's a little bit of an an environment about
Starting point is 00:02:26 of an a man who is received in the family with a great of the
Starting point is 00:02:30 family with with the The important is that he says, Ortega, is he says, I am I and my circumstances. It's that is that we don't we can attribute all those obstacles to what comes to the foreign, to the circumstantial.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And here is the factor I. And this factor, yo has made that persons that have been given circumstances very difficult and passados, durisimous, have been an example
Starting point is 00:02:56 for the humanity. Is that the factor individual He's a lot. It's a Cunditions that I think the
Starting point is 00:03:07 if I'm even to to do to happen to happen in the life. I mean
Starting point is 00:03:13 that I like much the metaphysica I remember a comment of Albert Einstein
Starting point is 00:03:18 that's I said the separation that we see the world
Starting point is 00:03:22 and the world because we have separated is a pure hallucination
Starting point is 00:03:28 of the conscience not is real what What we've this man that discovered
Starting point is 00:03:32 a relation surprising between the space, the time and the velocity, us quix to say that
Starting point is 00:03:36 when you can be the conditions in your interior, curiously, the circumstances start to
Starting point is 00:03:42 change and of that we have experience direct. So I would say that the obstacles
Starting point is 00:03:47 most important to the plenitude first, from from the
Starting point is 00:03:51 point of circumstantial is not road to people that you can be
Starting point is 00:03:57 they they're in you, that to support, that you accompany and that they're defiant. The peer group, the group that has been
Starting point is 00:04:05 an importance enormous and has been been shown one and other way as a factor of grand calado. But the second element is that you think that if
Starting point is 00:04:12 you take responsibility over your life, if no you know you've got to a paper of me, with these
Starting point is 00:04:19 circumstances where I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm I'm a culture ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta
Starting point is 00:04:25 if you no time does happen to be to be in the the best circumstances. So I would say that the grand desire to
Starting point is 00:04:33 to get the point of personal is to use the role of a victim, not to make responsibility and
Starting point is 00:04:41 say, very well, these are my circumstances. What I'm to do I do with these
Starting point is 00:04:46 circumstances? And in that moment is when the person human starts a way
Starting point is 00:04:50 to be a real and he's the circumstances count and that the
Starting point is 00:04:56 what most count is how relations with those circumstances. And the truth in the life there's something we never
Starting point is 00:05:04 we'll never want to avoid, for more positive that we're and more enfocated in our metas, that are the adversities and the situations complex that are we present in our
Starting point is 00:05:15 daily to live. I'd like to know what you could say about how to develop a mentality resilient, that we can't manage
Starting point is 00:05:25 and gestionarnos in meo of those adversities that we'll put secure the life to to all and everyone.
Starting point is 00:05:31 First, I'd like to talk about the adversities. And here me came a
Starting point is 00:05:34 history of the world Sufi. The world Sufi is the
Starting point is 00:05:38 world mystic of Islam. The maximum represent is
Starting point is 00:05:43 Meblaan Rumi. They said that there a campesino that
Starting point is 00:05:48 had a little and they were a family poor but he
Starting point is 00:05:53 he, um, enter, well, a new the business that he was the
Starting point is 00:06:00 crue of but not he had a money and he didn't have any of the people, and then he said,
Starting point is 00:06:07 he did a little of a raga-dientes at the final they were sufficient money and he bought
Starting point is 00:06:13 a caroy, a magnificent cabo. But a good day, the cabo the cabo,
Starting point is 00:06:20 he stopped the, the corral where was in and he's he's scapoh. And then the
Starting point is 00:06:25 vicinous, what bad you've been been a bad suorpe? You're poor, you've seen
Starting point is 00:06:32 you, you know, and now your cabo and he said, good and a
Starting point is 00:06:38 good suctor, who's know? One a few after the cario
Starting point is 00:06:43 with a lot of the lot of that's that's that's carofero
Starting point is 00:06:47 that caro because they they had been had been had been eaten and, in some way,
Starting point is 00:06:52 he had taken a little of effect. And in that the campesino was found out that he had not a cabo,
Starting point is 00:06:58 but ten cabos. And all the people were and said, but what good suites. You're poor
Starting point is 00:07:03 and now you're rich. Now you're 10 cabos. He's, good suority, mala
Starting point is 00:07:08 suorpe. Who knows? One of his children, well, his only his only son, his own
Starting point is 00:07:16 of one of the cabos salvages and he domesticar, it's a fracture a pair
Starting point is 00:07:22 and he quite quite downed. A poe time after the rey of that the country
Starting point is 00:07:31 declares the war to the country and then they're to all the people
Starting point is 00:07:36 to listarles as the war and they are reclutating to all the
Starting point is 00:07:42 people but when they the camppesino and see that the
Starting point is 00:07:48 that fractura and that difficulty to to land, they're going. Then, at the final, that's good a suitor, mala suorpe. It's difficult. There are many times
Starting point is 00:07:58 that we're doors and we can't be in the I've exercised the surgery general and of the apparatus and gestive 26 years,
Starting point is 00:08:08 no deja to be surprised when there people who say, doctor, this infirmity is the best that could have
Starting point is 00:08:13 been saying, well, you've had been a very bad a good of a way, and said, because I've had done a lot of what was really important. And it has been a process of reinvention in my life.
Starting point is 00:08:24 So, I think that no we can't see nothing separate of our relation with that. All is a relation. And how me relation I with a thing, affect a profoundly to what that thing supone in my life.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I can't relate to me with a infirmat, as a adversity or what is a more like a case. It's a concept
Starting point is 00:08:47 absurd. But I can also also can't also I'm a way.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I can relate to that's a because to me in this moment,
Starting point is 00:08:57 is a person young no I'm no I'm a
Starting point is 00:08:59 good or I can do for what for
Starting point is 00:09:02 what the problem in this moment in my
Starting point is 00:09:05 life. So I think I personally in the times
Starting point is 00:09:10 personally as personally and professionally what more me has helped to be resilient, in the measure in that I've been able to be, is to find a sense. What is different to
Starting point is 00:09:22 find a significate? A significate is my form normal to interpretar the things. A new. A good thing that has, is a disgrace. That's the escape the caballo, the significo that has a disgrace. That's it to get to the hip-o-the-jillo-the-the-pearne, the significo that is a disgrace. But there's a something that is, that's much more
Starting point is 00:09:41 there's the significate, is the sense, and this you know, do the life. So, we're in our intellect, we don't
Starting point is 00:09:46 understand the sense, if we're doing, we can't orientarned with it. Fickate, for example,
Starting point is 00:09:54 in the camp of the infirmat, which is one of the major, we can't say,
Starting point is 00:09:57 under the person, the person, the significate is, this is a this is a
Starting point is 00:10:02 disgrace, because to me, because to me, while the the sense is for that you,
Starting point is 00:10:07 for that so, so, is, to to the mystery. So I think in the Resilience, one of the of the elements most important, is to say, the
Starting point is 00:10:17 capacity, recordemous, is the capacity of, to deliver, one time that has been deformed, like a pelota of tennis, you, you're trying a polo of the floor, the polo's a plasta, but no revient. Then, then, will be to his form
Starting point is 00:10:30 habitual. If you're a bottle of crystal to run, because it's not resilient. To me, of the things that most has been helped me have been to understand that, that even I don't
Starting point is 00:10:39 know there's there's a thing there's and that it's a not just
Starting point is 00:10:46 the reason, not from the ira, which is a emotion devastator, not from
Starting point is 00:10:52 the fear or from the cause of because because of the interest and the
Starting point is 00:10:56 curiosity to see me abre here. I remember I've many many years
Starting point is 00:11:00 I've a experience margosa in the United in an
Starting point is 00:11:04 hospital they're that they're that the only hospital that had were in the States United, with this
Starting point is 00:11:10 number, it's one of hospitals more prestigious of the world, and when I went to the other country where was to
Starting point is 00:11:19 mount to this hospital and was going to get to a person that not of a great that someone
Starting point is 00:11:27 that someone that's close to the hospital in the case was the head of
Starting point is 00:11:32 the curugion onc of the new hospital and And all the
Starting point is 00:11:36 help, all the, all the effect, all the support that received in Houston,
Starting point is 00:11:44 in concrete, it was a different to do the person of the director of that hospital
Starting point is 00:11:51 were to the United. And I in that moment, really not couldn't understand
Starting point is 00:11:55 because there was any argumentation of the point of medical or personal,
Starting point is 00:12:00 because I did actually he had to know, it was simply that
Starting point is 00:12:05 He said, literally, I know that has cailed in the States here, the things are going to do form of different. So,
Starting point is 00:12:12 I decided not to collaborate with that in Spain. And, in Spain, and curiously, today,
Starting point is 00:12:20 thanks to that I've that I'm a series of decisions that have been crucial in my life.
Starting point is 00:12:28 So, what do you do in that moment? Not to question, because, because this
Starting point is 00:12:33 man the better, he wants to make another person, so that's clear, but for what happens this in my life? When you understand that in the life no there are casualities, but causalities, and intentas alignartes with that,
Starting point is 00:12:46 not I don't think the dolor disappear. What the is that the dolor, when it has a much more a lot more levadour, because it has a reason to say. I want to imagine the case of a little extreme, of a
Starting point is 00:13:01 a father, a mother, that they want to don't a rinko to his because the crio it needs. Obviously, it has to pass that father, that mother, for a surgery, imagine we're that they're compatible in the point of vista histological, they're going to
Starting point is 00:13:18 pass for that surgery, that is dolorous. But the fact of that it's for his son, has that they're giving to a way radically distinct. So, this it's all It's a marvellousamely in his
Starting point is 00:13:32 book, to be, from a lot of because he's in other context the man in buska in the same and he's
Starting point is 00:13:37 he says and what you do you do do you do you do there's a place in that you
Starting point is 00:13:44 you know that's the key. In the resilience the clavis the clav is to find
Starting point is 00:13:49 a a thing. Ohal this podcast you have liked and could convert into an inspiration at the hour of
Starting point is 00:14:01 to display and to make flource your veradernal.

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