Dr. Mario Alonso Puig - Transformar el miedo en ilusión

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

¿Alguna vez has sentido que la naturaleza te habla sin decir una palabra? En esta conversación charlamos con Erika de la Vega en su podcast En defensa propia, cómo el silencio de los Himalayas, el musgo en un sendero inglés o una caminata en Colorado me han recordado verdades que mi mente pasaba por alto.Vivimos tan centrados en el hacer que hemos olvidado el arte de simplemente ser. Hemos pasado del Homo sapiens al Homo faber, y eso nos aleja de la presencia, de la paz y del sentido.También conversamos de lo que me sostiene en los momentos de desafío. Deseo que esta conversación te inspire a detenerte, a escuchar y a reconectar con lo sagrado que habita en ti...🌐⁠⁠Página Web⁠⁠📷⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠▶️⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠📲⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎟️⁠Entradas a la nueva conferencia 2025

Look, Mario, I see I've seen that you take that time to take that you do you take your activities, you're doing your naturalization

that's, that's important for you to be able to continue giving this message of illusion.

What has learned? The natural that says a lot of things that we know that we don't

see, but it's all I've done. Look, I've been experiences in the natural

apparently overcoged those. You'll tell for example two. One was in the Himalayas and one was

in the mountains rockosas of Colorado. In the mountains rocosas of Colorado was

in a period of a period of silence and was coming and of and of I was

things of me that I don't know I'm I'm I'm

were reveled things that I'm in the Himalalas in a

country I've a great of respect that is Bhutan Can you?

The country is the most Fulis of the world? For no minus the country that has worked the

study of the impact of the society. When I came about the Himalaya's

in a trekking we did I think incredibly connected with natural

example. In England I did a can't a with a

scientific that was talking the evolution of the

time the time that we cameinabom. So, for example, if we'd two hundred

meters, this were not how many hundreds of years. It was a person marvellous.

A man wonderful. And when we're I'm I was back to the university,

after that was a time in the town, it's very very good time. We're very

very good when they came. I've a musgo. Mosh. I, see musgo. How many

times have seen Muxg? a lot of many of the way I see that musgo the musgo

the musgo is of the first species vegetal that have appeared in the

year and I see immediately a respect and a connection

for that musgo that the last that I would be to the which

no way he does so what you mean so so

the nature has that that is to be there, to be to be, simply be, not be. Ser, ser, sir.

It's there. Ser. Ser. But we've been in the homo faber. Uh-huh. A-huh. To be.

The homo sapiens to homo faber. The man, the ser human that only does it. That's all is to do

and other thing is sure. Totally. And so difficult to be times for one. It's a defiant.

It's a defiant. I'm going to keep the the word difficult, the very. How you

maintain the illusion, Mario, in your life? What do you do you

do you? I'm not because my form to be a person a person creient.

I, I see in an love infinite, that is pure conscience, pure

wisdom, and that's infinite power, infinite, and that's in my life.

So, I, in my moments of difficulty, let say,

we put a a little bit of the sobrivia that I'mgatch to the head and I'm with what

so I'm don't me feel like I'm feel desvalied and see that the things I'm passing for a

motive. That's the first. The second place, because for me the mission that me

is to help to other people to help to help us and that's what makes that me

let me That's a levante, that when I'm Cancey, that's a thing, a good A lot of purpose, that's a thing of purpose that me entusiasm. In third, the feedback of the person. When the people are so carign to you with

much gratitude, with much, with a lot, you know, you're to be very of that that's not, not you're a little. So, then, and then, and then, and then,

and then, well, and, fortunately, I have a family marvellous, those those I adore, a woman that's

my companion of my life, and I'm not quite them so much

more. And so I'm a good good I mean, I don't have

a reason for and when I'm queho, what I queho, that's

what is what really, fundamentally are my moments of profound my

stupidity. But that also I've to understand it as part of my

fragility and my vulnerability for that never me

create nothing special and always me reconnoct as a student permanent. Because here the

problem is when one is when one is a expert. Because then the arrogance and

the suburbia and you dominion by your life you know, you know, you know, you're

doing this type of errors. And that's what you want to the illusion.

You wrote a much years, a book that's reinventate. Inventate.

Inventation, yes, the second opportunity. That was the That's the only that existed in that time when,

I mean, nobody had been about that. And this, we've been about, you know,

I've been six years about this in this podcast. So, however, I've seen that

these processes of reinvention also are changing things. Empeas one, terminate another,

or so, it's like a, it's a matter, that one gets, then I

want the attention, I'm know, from that that first book of reinventarse

now, your miras in the reinvention tantos years that have passed the pandemic for the

middle, all what we've lived as humanity and what has lived

you individually individually individually. Reinvent your second opportunity

I was in the 2010 and passed for that 15

years and it and it because I saw the

people after the great crisis of the people perished and many people were there

people were disorientated and I sent the call to write that that's term and to

not a term that the person that the people are and curiously many many people

found anim hope and hope to re-invent your second

or boy because it was a time because how not you how not

another opportunity exactly but but for for one like

the life was designed for one to keep being what one is, one is, one works in what you know is, you work in what you is, you pass 20 years in the company, then you retire, you have some, you know, that's a permission, to change,

to change the mentality and of life, for end? Totally. In fact, in a program of television that me invited by then, for example, to talk of the book, invited also to people that I no know knew. And one of them, was an architecteck, caracte, the

crisis of the vivienda, the the best architect, the best architect, engineers, so they were in a good for the good that were,

because no there were because no there was an architect, technical that's he had reinvented and he

was a taxist and then he said, it's really that me costed, but now I live

with a sense, I live with a with a pat and a tranquillity so the

life we're moving so respect to how it I see, I'm I think

is that the reinvention is a vocation constant of the human because in the

natural the only that is permanent is the change. We're we're

more or less conscientious of you the disposition to reinvent

is a talent that we have a clear that there

there there there there I'm I prefer I

prefer this tach that is precious to a

most is to good a good but not I'm apegated to this

taza. No, no, to me put a water if not in this

tachas. So the reinvention, not you say that you know you're not there's

different that's so that's great, he prefer to continue doing your profession but

not was apegated to your profession. Ah, so if no, I'm not

to do the other thing, and curiousam what came to change, I've

found a What is it? That means that not discartemos certain changes in our life,

because mentally, if not is what I've done to be to be able to make a lot of people. I know many of

people who have been to be the intemperia, in the vacio, and have created some projects and they're

that good. So, it's a disposition. Nobody does the security of that

the things are going to be able to be if it's the only we're sure is that

one day we're we're we've we've the possibilities of that we're going

if we're a disposition to that that's a reinvention that I'm that I'm going to

discover new how I'm how I'm doing things new and we're a mental rigida

for a mentality of a great that's one of one of the

one of the one of the other we're we're saying we're important very

because I can't to go to get to my zone of comfort, of my family and I

feel like but I'm better because I'm going to I'm going to my zone family,

my zone of comfort, I'm saying, I'm really, I'm sure, I'm put a

back back. There's a example. In a movie I'm a impressioned, the artist. It's a

lot of Oscars, it's a film a mother, where the protagonist is

an actor of Cine Mood that is the rey of Mambo, like

all the world, want to make photos, all the world,

no-the- course, and then then they they're in the time. In the

time, in the music more dramatic in a certain scenes, a music more

romantic in others, but no nobody about. And they they're saying

that is a that's the sound in the cinema and

he's this not the movie of Brad Pitt. No. I think

was a version the that he is the original

of artist, that is an actor francis, that's a he won't an Oscar. I think it's a version. So, like, as he, like, so, Margotneux. Right, and then, he said, for favor, this I'm going to be the Red of the Mambor.

And he'll say, no, is that the cinema sonorough, it's he's a type of dramatization. That has to learn. You need to learn.

You need to be just to do, no, so to do you pass, and the time, and the moment, so it's been, when he's a carer in the case. But, of course, nobody

can consider that the place where is a place that is a same in the that will be in the future. What we have what has brought to have a certain exit today, not necessarily

is it going to be to make a success in the future. Look, Aminda, before the pandemic in the 2020, I don't have had done a single conference online in my life.

Now we're very habitual. In that Yeah, I've got to have to conferences online. I've been

invited to some seminar international online and I'm to me not me not much

my is the presential, et cetera. Of course, to me it's me can't all the

activity. It's to get to zero. Because of airports are closed and then

so I'm so. So, I remember that I'm in March in 2020 the

first petition I get by the or the internet for internet to do a conference online. And I remember how me

my family and said Papa, it's a one one way more the book, reinventarse your your second opportunity.

And I did my first conference that was super complicated. Yeah, because you know, you have to reinvent test, you

have to be the lamparita that me mirabah and no idea and that's no me have passed never. Because you're

in a studio television, an interview, an interview, a podcast how it. And another thing is,

one thing and it suppose it there's there's there because to

that we start to we're in to get to help with the social,

because there's people who there's a lot of the situation that there's a not going to see as

and my house we've we're going to what you want to be so that I'm going to

get to get to I'm to be on the level online and we've been so much

I'm so sure I'm know Well, this, no. The most, no, the most don't count. And the world has forgotten.

Yes, it's alvited. But not because not because not because they're extraordinarily good, but because, like, the artist, not are disposed

to adapt to. And that's a condition, is an ability, it's a talent that we have to develop. Sure,

and for the least you have to have the disposition. Sure. If you have the disposition and the gas, and the

little to do you're going to learn to do you, but if one has a mentality rigid,

if at final no not it's not mean you mean you say that the

world not it's to care out of yeah that's that's rudissimo that's that's a

little also the work that you have to internally with the story that one

the concept that you you know about about you about you about you know

I'm I'm meres not I don't be so much that's that you know

that one so So, then define all what is, all the whole around. Yeah. Look, after some years, I've done a meditation

that's called the meditation of the heart. You know, you can back gratuitously in Marioonsopuch.com. Yes. Because I

wanted that the people were from the conference caretos more. And I this meditation

with the which you enter in a contact more profound with your essence. And then me said

the people that are around because I do the eyes so I don't know I'm you know

you can't imagine the people the people you know what you're what you're after the

conference etc so so I decided put it for all what is the the mystery

the mystery is that you you know is that you you're that you

the mystery is that you that you not you have that you not have

force celestial, that one has condemned to to see myself. That no there's a question, or they're not

they're going to want to see you, only they're feeling, is one, the one, the one that's

impone the suffering, at the more because one day, when it was a disaster, you're a

little to not in the life. And you and you do you're there no, there

no baddard there, there was you to do you're you to trygast. And in

that you you, you, you start to have to the way you're in your own, you

boycoteas your own. But as you you, it's not you, it's to be the when a person

is a person who has more, you have to give an opportunity to be a opportunity

to have a opportunity to to have to be an life? What is that is that to

have my a better in my entire. If my interior, I

have to have to be to I'm, I would I

would a every time that commit an error, I said, you know, you're a torpe,

no sirs for nothing if you're not you're you're in you know, but if you know even even

the thing more basic, I'd have to be very bad to accept that person to my side.

Because I accept to that way, I'm not, I'm a other day, I know, I know that you

think you to you're the phrases that says, no permitting that the

enemy is the middle of your two o'clock. Exactly. Perfectant

is written. And he Look, the father, we're in a place that I want in the States United for all what I have learned

here. The father of all the psychology in Losajona was a psychologist, a highlorian

Harvard, who was in 1910, he was William James. William James gave to a profound

in the knowledge of these realities physical mental, and metaphysic spectacular

and those was plasmable in some times and sometimes. not to say more with less words. Fidgette what

did I mean, you're you when you cares, with your form of to talk to who determines

if you've you've got to a bache or in a tomb. Who, who can say more with less

words. That's I know, I'm I'm commenced a error me do I go,

well, a batchecit this is my tomb this is my final. No, there's

nothing to do. What you do you creas. Yes, no more nothing to do do. Yeah.

That's it. Any that never, you have to be at the carlion. No, is that no there's no, no

there's all there's no, but you have been the parcians. No, let's the

culp to make responsibility of how are your persianas. If they are badas

or are they're not as alas, but no leches the question to all the books that

you've heard, us is being that that needs or is looking

to be looking to make the illusion internal, the illusion internal, that we can build each

one of us. And that's a responsibility of all. Because if not, if we

don't, we're not very difficult to create it collectively. So it's a responsibility

not us, we're doing our own our own a day. Exactly.

So, so, so, the entire your literature, What is the book

For where they can start? You me permit is that I think

briefly of every what you can you know but not I'm really

not the question. Of my my first book made of the leader

what you can is a concept of the leadership

as a person as people to from from

the from the from the empathy and from

the from the from the Voluntatimineo. To reinventarse your second opportunity to

any person that wants to give a personal or professional to your life, that is a

book. Now I is a book that I'm for those people that

people who feel that that that that's that's my

moment atrebet the response is a book that

I'm a person that that want to find a response to his questions. The Cocienta Gagias is a book that I'll explain

for to share the essence of the valentia. How, really, the valentia, us abeons, how neurologically the valentia

we can't understand and apply. You can't tell you the concept of valentia? Because if one I think I think that I'm,

I'm, I'm putting my pecho and I defiant. No, the valentia is the result of the love.

For example, I want that you think in the person that the person that you're not to think you.

Serious you're able to convert to be a heroine for that person? Sure.

No, no, no, no, it's a instant. It's a thing,

there's enough to be able to be a person to have more has been the valentia,

of the has surged of the love you have to you have to you have a

project and you have a lot of you know to tryvert to other manner not you think valentia is that

that's a power that you help to help the because it's interpone between

what you amas and where you're so then you know that's to give

the opportunity to be a so so cocient to us. Then I've written a book about meditation. It's called Tomate a Respiro. For those people

that feel that they're feeling that they're in aogad, that they're shent-hugated, that are superated, that are stressed. And they're going to do you? Well, they've been for 20-tantas or so

that. That's Tomate a respiro. Then I've written 355 ideas for a life plenna. It's that every day

you can't learn something that you can't anime. The last of my book is, well, then I've

written my only novel of fiction, which is the Guardian of the Verde of the Time,

is a new year, it's a novel where there are two stories parallel,

separated for six of distance, where we we've as problems

impossible can can convert in elements possible in the

manner more more more more more the thing

of to start that's for those people that that are the

necessity to live with a great and between

the book that's resetea your where I talk about the

two men and about those people that have had

had been that have had had had trauma or

or they know and that they not understand there

there that people that have said to Lerre set to your mind I've understood my thing you're when you know

you know it's you know and when you know it's that you can change and run the cycle right,

while you you know you've put a put you when you you know you know

that for so I know that I'm for that I'm so I'm so you

when you're when you when you when you when you when you when you when you

when it's in this moment you your life does totally

totally So, even if you want to to go back impossible. And what is the next book? That is

a very good question. So, about me it's a question much. I'm not you know.

I'm not. You know, yeah, you know, you know, you know, what you know,

I'd like, Rika, me would really be a lot of things that I want to

a great- in the world in the world of the world of the world

that it's important the world of the spirituality, the world of the transcendence. I'm doing what I'm doing now is to see what the people most need. Yes, well, I imagine that in the contact

that you're with the people, you're going to what is the necessity of all. And, well, the necessity to continue to talk with you always, we're

to have been. Well, and for me a disfruct. Igual, Mario, thanks for your time, and to come

to come to here conversation and that's the first of many in person exactly.

Exactly. So, so so. Mario Alonso Puch in

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