EverydaySpy Podcast - Cartels, Torture & Terror: Americans Are CLUELESS About Real Evil
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What I've discovered since getting out, since becoming more public with my own agency background,
is that people really don't, I mean, especially American people, the average American out there
doesn't realize how despicable the world outside of our borders really is, right?
Like cartels.
Cartels literally will torture you, right?
Terrorist groups will torture you.
Not because there's any strategic benefit from it.
But just because they want to send a message, it's their version of psychological operations,
it's a number of different things, right?
Not to mention the fact that they're oftentimes, like, these are not well-educated,
you know, balanced, emotionally stable people who gather into cartels and gather into
terrorist organizations or gather into extremist groups.
These are desperate people who live hard lives, who learn to live by a code of ethics that
defined by the organization that they come into. So, you know, the idea that that you or I might
ever actually inflict prolonged pain on somebody, it's difficult to even imagine coming from
the American mindset. And it's fascinating to me because oftentimes Americans will get all up
in arms about saving whales and about protecting animals from makeup testing. And we'll get upset about
about immigrants being shipped from Texas to New York.
Right.
Like when you compare those to what's happening in Mexico City,
like it's insane that people don't realize how protected and privileged and and humane we are.
And that we're subdividing and limiting and arguing with each other over,
you know, minuscule things.
And we're calling it humane.
And it's the definition of humane is so much wider than what we consider.
I was going to say in the, you know, periodically I'll get somebody on that will be either an ATF agent or DEA agent or Raymond Hicks.
There's a, he's a sheriff's deputy who was in the, is it Broward County?
Broward County. He was in Broward County Sheriff's deputy. They had taken him and they were using him to do under control buys because he grew up in the streets, right?
So, you know, it's hard for a normal cop to come off like a drug dealer.
You know, he's a, even if it's a black guy, right?
Like if he's a black guy raised upper middle class drug dealers, they, they talk to you
for five minutes go, absolutely not.
Like, you're trying to talk this, but I can feel it's not you.
You know, intuition is insane, right?
So Hicks goes out and he's one of these guys selling drugs and they're busting people,
but the other deputies are stealing money.
Like they're taking money from the drug dealer.
So he starts to speak out about it, starts to complain about it, starts to make waves.
And they go, oh, no, you know, you're a problem.
They send them to live to go back and work in the jail, which is where he'd come from.
He said, I didn't care about that.
He had made statements where you guys should be in jail, not some of these drug dealers.
Like, you guys are just as bad as them.
You're stealing from them.
You're beating them up.
You're, you know, what ends up happening is they end up basically including him on a case.
It's like 700 kilos of cocaine or something.
It's ridiculous.
And he ends up going to trial and wins.
They then arrest him again and indict him for something else.
house. This time that he goes to trial again and wins. He lost everything. Like he lost, you know,
his savings, his house, everything through this process. He was actually arrested again. And keep
mind, every time they raided his house. So, and in the comment section, guys are saying,
we're the most corrupt country. We're the most, we're the most. And they keep it. And I'm always in there
going, okay, look, there's corruption. Any system, you could design the perfect system, but the moment
you put humans in charge of it, there is going to be issue.
There's going to be corruption.
People are going to take advantage of it.
So, and, you know, our justice system is the most corrupt.
Stop.
It's not the most corrupt, okay.
Is there corruption?
Yes.
Is there an old boys network in some situations?
Absolutely.
But there's just, you know, it's certainly not the most, you know, is it, it's actually,
look, I just didn't, I honestly think maybe I met one or two people that it was questionable,
that maybe they were innocent.
And I know one guy that absolutely, he's innocent.
He should have got some time for stupidity.
You know, just for putting yourself in this situation and being stupid, you should have known better.
I don't think he was technically what he did was illegal, but you're an idiot.
You should have done two years just for being stupid.
So, but still innocent.
Honestly, other than that, the only real disparities I've seen is in sentencing.
You're not innocent.
You didn't deserve 15 years.
I read your whole case.
I read the transcript.
You didn't should have gotten 15 years.
You probably should have got a year or two.
But is that corruption?
Like, no, it's, it may be slightly unfair and it's not.
But in comparison to other countries, bro, come on.
Yeah.
This is, people in America, they have no, there's no idea how brutal it is out there.
It is.
It's wild.
It's wild that in countries like Thailand, in countries like UAE and countries like Saudi Arabia,
you can't speak out and say a negative comment.
Even privately, it's legally culpable to say a negative comment about a royal family.
Right.
the royal family of Thailand, the Saudi royals, or one of the seven royal families that are inside
UAE, to even say something negative about them makes you legally culpable. And the prisons,
you can imagine what a prison looks like in UAE. It's not like the prisons here in the United States
where people are given, you know, a closed space where the barred windows are still windows.
Yeah. You know what I mean? It's pretty wild. And I will, it's also interesting because
you were just talking about the sentencing being the area of discrepancy, right?
I don't know what, I don't think people understand how our justice system works.
It is a, it is a system that pushes all authority to the judges, right?
Judges have independent authority over their court, and judges can't even agree with other judges.
It's there.
It is, it is the exact opposite of objective.
It is a subjective world.
They get to interpret the law.
They get to apply the law.
They get to do it in their district, their municipality.
If they're a Supreme Court judge, they do it federally.
And I didn't realize this until recently either.
Judges are oftentimes given lifetime judge.
Yeah, yeah.
Lifetime.
Like, so if you're, if you get, you get accepted to be a judge at whatever age, 35, 45, 55, whatever it might be, you never have to leave.
It's not publicly elected after that.
Like, you're a judge forever.
So if you, you're not really concerned.
about public opinion because it's almost impossible to get rid of me.
Exactly.
It's insane, man.
And that's the justice system, which is one of the three legs that our entire American
system is built on, right?
The judicial branch, it's just, it's one of those things to me that's both a superpower
and a vulnerability in our system because we, we have that process.
Right.
Where you are, you do have to earn the right to be a judge.
You do have to be publicly elected.
And it's reviewed.
There's a review process and review process and review.
review process up to the Supreme Court if they want to hear it because they don't always have
people like, oh, go to the Supreme Court. They don't have to hear it. But yeah, there's a review
process all the way up through the, through the whole thing. The only problem is it does take a long
time. It is cumbersome. And you may have to sit in jail for five years until your situation
gets rectified. But the fact that there is the possibility of it being cleared up. A system at all.
Right. Yeah. Right. Oh, it's funny. There was a guy, Ephraim Devaroli had told me one time
And this is, this goes against what you're saying.
He said they can do anything they want to you as long as they give you a system to appeal it.
And I was like, I was like, oh, wow.
Like the way he said that, I was like, wow, he's a think about it.
Oh, you have a problem with that?
Well, here, fill out this form.
You can appeal it.
It goes to the next step.
Oh, you didn't like our opinion.
Great.
Go to the next step.
You know, so he's like, he's like, they'll drag it out by the time.
Maybe you'll win.
He said, but two years later, you've already done your sentence.
Yeah, ours are.
Perfect.
No, I agree. And what's wild to me is that what I've discovered in my kind of CIA experience looking at the United States is we are very much a country of conviction. We're looking for and rewarding the most convicted people, the people who can show the most tenacity, the most determination, the most diligence. And all of our systems are created to eat away at each of those things, right? So that the person who doesn't have follow through, the person who isn't tenacious, the person who doesn't have the
to keep pushing on. The person who gives up, that's our favorite kind of person. That's inside the
United States. Everybody loves the person who gives up because the person who gives up just pays a
little extra money to have somebody else fix the problem. The person who gives up pays their
taxes on time and at the maximum rate. The person who gives up just follows the rule of law and
crosses at the crosswalk. The person who gives up is the person that everybody gets to walk on.
And we raise people to get walked on. Public school raises you to be walked on. Church raises
you to get walked on. Like we live in a culture that's all that's literally propagating the idea
that to be a good citizen, you have to shut up and take it. And then the people who don't,
the few that don't and the few who show the resilience year after year, decade after decades
to not get stepped on and to not put up with shit, those few people end up being wildly successful
and they become the target of criticism and anger from everybody else. But by then,
they've already gotten accustomed to being yelled at all the time.
So they just roll with it, right?
That's look at your Steve Jobses, look at your Elon Musk's, look at your Donald Trumps,
look at all these fantastic celebrity names.
Right.
But then you don't even have to look at the biggest names.
The people out there who are making millions of dollars a year in silence because they're
the kings of their industry, the king of the tire industry, the king of the motor oil industry,
the king of the foam wall industry.
They all have tops of their industries.
And inside their industry, I guarantee you they are hated and despised by everybody else
who's just trying to scratch by and make a living.
I was going to say I had a guy one time who was telling me he was he was actually
he was we were talking about the middle class or something.
He actually was kind of like, almost mocking the middle class.
And I was like, bro, like I wish I had been middle class.
To be honest, you know, like I wouldn't have to go to jail.
I wouldn't have lost all the things that I lost and all because of my, oh, my fault.
But it's like the middle class like, you know, they are the backbone.
You know what I'm saying?
But you're right, but you're absolutely right.
Like that is what, and I was joked about this, of how any type of program in prison is designing you is, is they're educating you to go work at Walmart.
Like it just like public school, they're educating you to go just go get a lower middle class or middle class job.
Like that's really what high school is, hey, by the time you're done with high school, you are educated to be lower middle class.
You know what I'm saying?
Like still middle class.
Yeah.
But not in the high end.
So that's what they want because they need that massive tax base.
to follow the rules and pay in everything.
And, you know, and as horrible as this might sound, you know, God bless them.
It's critical.
It's critical.
Absolutely.
It's exact.
We would fail as a country without them.
And it's, and this is, this is what I think is so interesting.
Because as much as people might want to hate the fact that what we're saying is true,
the other thing that's also true is that the reason we are the world's superpower,
the reason we are the top economic engine in the world.
Right.
is because we have created this massive class of cogs.
Yeah.
Right?
Cogs that are that are dissatisfied, angry, frustrated, you know, they bitch about it when they go home.
They struggle for 35 years and they complain, but they still do it.
You know what's funny, though?
You go to any other foreign country out there, and what you'll find is that the lack of
cog-based education becomes a massive drain on their economy.
And they would die to be in that position in the United States.
What's funny is it's so funny because it's totally, it's just circumstantial because the same people that are middle class today or even lower middle class, a hundred years ago, like the Rockefellers, these people are all living better than them.
You say, they say, oh, no, they don't have as much money.
It doesn't matter.
They have dental kids.
They're not going to, they have medical.
They're going to live twice as long.
Like, like, I forget which, like one of the Rockefellers lost like three kids.
I don't know if it was a Rockefeller, but it was one of these guys that, like, he lost like three kids in his wife.
life, like to diseases that now you go to the doctor, they'd be like, here, take these pills for
10 days.
You're good.
You know, what are you talking about?
And they won't because we'll only take our pills for seven days and then we'll feel better
because we know more than the doctor, right?
It's insane because you're exactly right, right?
Dental technology of the 1950s, dental technology of the 1920s, hails in comparison to what
we get right now on your employer's health insurance plan.
YouTube, entertainment, like across the board, your life is so substantially better, but, you
know people it's because it's so available and cheap that they don't appreciate it they don't
understand yeah you go to go to prison for 10 years get out and be like i'm walking around with
myself i'm like oh my god this is amazing there are boobs right here i could watch anything so
and i can find anything that's that's the availability heuristic man that's that's exactly what
you're talking about when you're surrounded and inundated by cheap entertainment and boxed wine and
anything that you could possibly want it's all available to you so then you think it's it's something
that it's not. You take it for granted. You assume it's either less important or more important than it
really is. Like that's all part of that that cognitive bias that distorts your point of view.
Well, I have guys with YouTube, since this is something I have in common, with the YouTube thing,
it's funny. I'll meet these guys that are like, oh, you're doing a YouTube channel. Oh, you know,
and I'm like, yeah, they're like, what else do you do? I'm like, no, no, it's like paying like all my bills.
Like, it's great. It's actually working. Like, it's working. And they're like, oh, that must be
nice. I'm like, well, I mean, yeah, but it didn't, I didn't put up a video, bro. Like, I had a plan.
I had a long-term plan. And you grind. And I, exactly. And listen, I even the first videos I was
putting out for the first six months, every video was called the grind. It was like the grind and
and then the tide was like, grind one. We got video, you know, one, two, three. I did it for six
months. And every week I was putting something out and was like, it doesn't matter what I put out.
To put out something has to be longer than, you know, I had a strategy. It has to be like 15 minutes or
longer. So it's 15 to 30 minutes every week and it doesn't matter what I do. I have to put it out. Why?
Because YouTube is the algorithm wants consistency. So I was putting them out constantly. I was coming up
with a decent thumbnail. I watched 10 videos on what a thumbnail looks like. I had this long term
strategy and it's like, well, how did you know it was going to work? I didn't know what's going to
work. But it doesn't take that long. And I didn't have anything else going on in my life.
Because I'm an ex-con. Right. Let's either this or McDonald's. If it fails. I'm going to take my chances on
I'm not in any worse position.
Like this case takes an extra five hours, you know, and I was editing the videos myself.
It was like, and I got to that point, and I remember even saying, I can do this for so long,
and then I am going to have to get to a point where I'll be out of material.
I have to start interviewing people, other criminals.
But at that point, I want to have like a three camera setup, right?
So I had, like, so I start people by this point, people are reaching out to you.
What can I do to help you?
I like you.
And I'm going on other podcasts because I knew, if I go,
on other podcasts, I'll get more subscribers.
I kind of conscript.
I always think I'm conscripting their subscribers.
And everybody's like, oh, well, you have a story.
Yeah, but it doesn't matter if you have a story because everybody's got a story.
There are other podcasts, entire platforms that are based on the fact that they're starting
a podcast or that they're starting a small business or they're stuff.
And they need content.
There are entire websites that are dedicated that you can put up a five-minute video about
here's who I am.
And it could be as simple as, I worked at McDonald's for six years.
I don't like where my life is going.
I don't want to go to college for four years.
It's not what I want to do.
I dropped out of high school.
You know, I talk to my mom.
I haven't heard.
You just tell a silly story that you think this is, this is nothing.
And this is what I'm doing.
And I'm trying to build my, my YouTube channel.
And I've got 300 subscribers and half of those are my relatives and friends.
And I really need people to subscribe.
And I like, and here's what I talk about on my podcast.
I'd like to come on your podcast and talk about,
being a podcaster.
And if you put that out there, believe it or not,
you'd probably get four or five different interviews
from other YouTubers about your channel,
and it would grow.
And people don't realize that.
You just have to be consistent,
and it grows, and it grows, and it grows.
