EverydaySpy Podcast - Catch Any Liar in 3 Seconds – CIA Interrogation Trick They Don’t Want You Using
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I want to talk more about detecting somebody who's lying because, you know, I've been blessed.
I've been in a lot of beautiful relationships.
And there hasn't been, you know, infidelity or, like, big lies of any sort.
But I've noticed what you could call if it was a poker term like tells when my partner is expressing something uncomfortable.
And it's been pretty consistent, actually.
Pitch of their voice goes up beyond that normal.
And I've also noticed that there's sometimes like a pattern of yawning that happens.
So the pitch goes up and all of a sudden there's these like little yawns that come out.
And I'm like, you're uncomfortable with what you're saying because you're maybe afraid that it's going to be something sensitive that you're sharing.
It's a truth.
It could be even a truth that you're just afraid of the sensitivity of my potential reaction to that truth.
But I've noticed this kind of and I just kind of laugh about it.
And sometimes I'll point it out.
I'll be like, look, like, you know, your pitch is a little high here.
And you're yawning.
So like, why are you uncomfortable?
You know, like what's going on?
But so for you, you know, I've just noticed that on the personal side.
I have no particular training in this.
But what are you there?
And I've also heard things about people when they're accessing truth look up or when they're
when they're lying, they look down.
Like what are some of the things that you do is like a human lie detector to see if someone's
actually comfortable with what they're saying or not?
Lie detection is not about micro-expression.
And there's a lot of false TikTok clips and Instagram clips and reels.
There's all this stuff out there about micro expressions.
And micro expressions don't work unless you have a baseline for the person that you're assessing,
which is why it works so well for you with your partner.
Because you have lots of hours of exposed time.
You understand your partner's baseline.
Yeah.
What's normal?
And then you can identify the derivations from the norm, just like you said.
Yeah.
That doesn't mean that lie detection can't be used against a stranger.
It just means you have to understand what you're looking for.
Instead of looking for micro expressions,
you're looking for macro observations,
large observations.
Your point about how your partner's pitch increases
when they're uncomfortable,
that's a micro expression.
Not everybody's pitch increases.
Some people's pitch actually goes down.
But for your particular partner, it goes up.
That's essentially a micro expression of a tell for them.
Yeah.
on the other hand, yawning is a macro observable.
Yeah.
Because whenever we're putting effort into anything,
the more cognitive effort you put into it,
the more cortisol is created,
the more that the body then demands an increase in oxygen flow,
and the frequency of yawning incurs.
Whoa, super interesting.
If you remember being a kid in a boring class
in middle school or elementary school or high school,
what did you do all the time?
Yon.
Yon.
Even though you got a good night's sleep.
Yeah, totally.
You were like, why am I yawning right?
right now, don't even know.
Right?
It's because there's all this stress in your brain and your body's saying,
I need more oxygen to support this cortisol processing.
So you yawn.
Yeah.
Yawning is a clear macro observable indicator of increased effort.
So efforts, your best way of telling if somebody's lying to you,
just like the, if you're at the border of Canada and the United States and you ask about drugs
and that person yawns, now you're like, oh, you're putting some effort into this.
Yeah.
So that's one of the things that you're looking for.
One of the best tells that are macro in nature actually have to do with the questions that you ask.
So there's two really powerful tells that you can look for when you're trying to determine if somebody's lying to you.
The first is called a chronological question.
The second is called a feelings question.
These are two types of questions that are strong at identifying if somebody is telling is fabricating to you.
Right. With a feelings-based question, you ask them how they feel about a specific moment in time, right? And then you see their response. In a perfect world, you do this with somebody who doesn't know that you're testing them for lie detection, right? But if you think about it, whenever somebody is asked an emotional question, a feelings-based question, the low effort response is real. The high-effort response is
repressed, right?
So, for example,
my grandmother died recently.
I was very close with my grandmother.
So if anybody asks me a feeling-based question
about my grandmother,
it's going to be very natural right away
for me to feel the true feelings
that I felt about my grandmother.
So if I lie about my true feelings,
there's going to be a delay in time.
There's going to be an amount of effort
that you can see and hear,
see in my facial expressions
and hear in my voice
because a feelings-based question
is something that's very difficult
to get rid of, right?
So, for example,
was your first experience
with plant-based medicine
something that made you happy?
Everybody who just watched
that response knows that whatever you're about to say
is going to be true, right?
Because as soon as I finish the question,
if you guys can play it back, play it back,
your face told the whole story.
Whatever you're about to say
is taking no effort from you.
You just lit up, dude.
Your face just lit up.
Yeah.
Right.
That's a feelings-based question.
Right.
So now, if I saw your face, like, you smiled.
I don't know if you noticed, like, you smiled possibly bigger than I've seen you smile
the entire show.
Totally.
Totally.
Now, if I saw that smile happen and then I saw that smile change before you started to answer,
now I know that you're introducing effort.
Yeah.
Right?
You're introducing effort, which means that you are,
cultivating the response, so it's a less honest response.
For whatever reason, maybe it's because you don't want to admit to it, or maybe because you don't want to confuse me. Who knows? But you're about to alter your response if I see that change. Yeah. Does that make sense? It makes total sense.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
No, you finish.
The second example is what's known
as a chronological question.
I want to equip you with both of these.
Yeah, no, this is great.
The second example is a chronological question.
Now, the chronological question
is partially tied to your native language.
Because if you're part of a native language
it reads from left to right,
or if you're part of a language that reads from right to left,
if you're part of a language it reads from top to bottom,
if you're part of a language it reads from bottom to top,
it changes what you're supposed to be looking for.
But essentially, the idea is that when you challenge somebody
with a chronological question,
their natural response is going to be
for their eyes to go
to the same place
that they would reference a timeline.
Right?
So if I ask you,
what was your favorite birthday
before you were 13 years old?
So people can see, already,
people can see your eyes.
They saw your eyes go up
because your native language is English.
Yeah.
And then they saw you scan from left to right.
Yeah.
So you're actually,
you're referencing,
your own history.
Right.
You're trying to find
what was the best memory.
If you were lying,
or if you were trying to lie,
I would see you reference
the right side of your...
Yeah, like kind of look down and, yeah.
Yeah, and you would say,
what's my creative brain?
What's the best answer?
Not, what is the history?
You replayed your birthdays.
Right.
Whereas somebody who's fabricating
is creating something new, right?
Yeah.
The looking up or looking down
is less impactful,
as much as addressing the chronology of the timeline.
That's so interesting to think about.
It also looks at like this kind of neurolinguistic archival process of the brain
and actually how we read is actually how we read our own brain.
It's how you read your brain.
It's how you read another person's face.
One of the key pillars to disguise is actually understanding that when people look at you,
they look at you the same way that they read a page.
So that means when people look at you,
they look at the upper left corner of your face
before they look at the lower right corner of your face.
And that's why when people,
when you ask somebody to describe someone that they saw once,
what can they usually recall?
Hair color, skin color, hair texture.
Because that's identifiable in the upper right corner of your face,
upper left corner of your face.
They have a hard time remembering if you had a beard.
They have a hard time remembering if you had blue eyes or brown eyes
because the first thing their brain looks at
is it's just like reading a page.
They look up there.
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You could have a fucking peg leg over here and they wouldn't remember because they look there,
first. Right? And that's when you're building a disguise, you're building it to accommodate how
they're going to look at you. When you're building a lie, you're doing it the same way so that you know
how you're going to reference the information in that lie. And then so if let's say I think so like
in Hebrew text you read, you know, bottom right to top left, right? So if that was your native text and that
was a native way that you would do it, someone might say, they were wearing sandals. They were like,
You know, so it could go in a certain way. And I know that, you know, in marketing, we always think of, like, how we organize a page.
And we understand that people are going to look from that top left down to bottom right. So there's a kind of a way that people are going to go. But then I imagine if you're doing advertisement in China or in, you know, Israel and Middle East, you know, you would actually organize things differently because that's the way that the mind would start to track.
Exactly. So think about all the international businesses out there who are taking.
their American web page, and then they're translating their web page, but that's all they're
changing.
The most important information is still in the upper left corner.
The logo is still in the upper left corner.
Instead of being like, hey, we're translating this into Hebrew, let's flip the whole thing
on its side.
And the most important thing should actually happen in the lower right corner of a landing page,
right?
They're not even thinking about it.
With Chinese, they read from top to bottom,
before they read from left to right.
So you want to put all of your best
most important nuggets
kind of on the left-hand side of the screen.
Your best pictures, your best graphics,
your best CTA.
Because by the time they get to the right side,
they're not even paying attention.
