EverydaySpy Podcast - CIA Spy: You're Already on a Government Watchlist – Here's Why

Episode Date: September 13, 2026

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Who do you think they're spying on? India? Who are like intelligence services? Who are the kind of people they spy on? The primary kind of rubric for intelligence is people who have access to sensitive information. So if you don't have access to sensitive information, you're already off the list. So all the waiters and the waitresses and the veterinarians and all the dentists of the world, they're all off the list because they don't have access to sensitive information.

sensitive information. Then inside of sensitive information, what intelligence services are really focused on is sensitive information of a national security element, meaning how do you maintain your national security or how do you degrade another country's national security? So now when you look at that rubric, it gets even smaller. Accountants are probably not on that list. Neurosurgeons are probably not on that list. They both have access to sensitive information, right? Bank are probably not on that list. Engineers are probably not on that list. Computer programmers are probably not on that list,

even though they all have access to sensitive information. Their sensitive information is not of a national security concern. So what intelligence services want are the people who can reach into the way that a country defends itself or the way that a country attacks another country. That is still pretty significant. That's broad. Because there's cybercrime, there's military conflict, there's intelligence conflict, There's intelligence conflict.

You've got financial crime and financial activity, organized crime, cooperation between countries, trading of science, trading of medicine, biological, chemical weapons of mass destruction, nuclear capabilities, energy infrastructure, economic espionage, industrial espionage. There's lots of ways that one country protects itself and degrades another country. Even someone like you, you influence 13 million people on YouTube alone. Do you think I'll be, I can be the one on their radar? You're absolutely on their radar. You're for sure. I would be surprised if Indian intelligence doesn't watch you. I'd be surprised if UK intelligence doesn't watch you.

I'd be surprised if American intelligence doesn't watch you. Somebody has your name on some list somewhere, and they're either collecting and watching your content with a human being, or they're collecting and watching your content with a bot or an AI, so that they can wait and see when something has. happens that's out of the ordinary. This episode, 100% this episode is being watched by a human being at CIA guaranteed. Hi. And what are they going to get out of it? Hopefully nothing, but they're probably watching it to make sure that I don't expose too many secrets. They want to

make sure that I don't cross the line, especially because you are not an American citizen. They don't want me sharing outside of my briefing, outside of what I'm allowed to share with a How do they know that you've not shared something with me offline? Well, that's because they also would... Trust you. Well, they don't trust me. They know that there's a legal obligation. But they would never know.

No, they would know. Like, if you shared something with me offline, when the cameras are off, how would they ever get to know? They'll never. That's a... Don't ever think that an intelligence service can't know. I just went through this with you. If an intelligence service wants something, they'll get it.

They'll get it. My cell phone is sitting right over there. Where is your cell phone sitting? It's off somewhere. That means there's a satellite right now that can place your cell phone and my cell phone within a same geographic footprint. And we have both accepted software on our cell phone, probably from Facebook or from Instagram or from Twitter, that lets them put that software on there.

So now your phone, my phone, his phone, her phone, all of them are geographically in the same place. And if they can all be geographically in the same place, they can be hacked into any one of these phone numbers. And as the phone numbers are hacked into, they can turn on the microphone in any one of those phones. They can pull the contacts list. They can pull the recent messages. They can pull the history. They can pull up anything that's on the buffer system between uploads. So all of that, if they wanted it, could be pulled.

Maybe not in a moment, but they could pull it all. And then they could track where your cell phone goes after today and where my cell phone goes after today. and his cell phone and his cell phone and her cell phone. So even though we might all go in 10 different directions, they can track us all. So now if there's an email, if there's a recording, if there's a picture,

if there's a snippet, if you ask him a question, hey, remember when Andrews said that thing about Pakistan? That might be all it takes for them to be like, oh, we know that they had some conversation off camera or off screen. And that's assuming that they don't put in a warrant

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until you tell us what he said. Thanks for scaring me. It's not as hard as people think. Do you think they're capable of character building as well? Meaning building a false character? Yeah, building someone in my life planting it so that they just want to have, I don't know, that different ways.

That's what human intelligence is. Yeah, like building friends in my life, building mentors in my life, sex being age. All of that. It is planting people into your life that gain your trust. That's all human intelligence is. CIA doesn't use sex spionage, not like China does or Russia does or North Korea does. But the United States will absolutely leverage other avenues of human intelligence.

They'll create business opportunities. They'll create shared networks. They'll have somebody who is a friend of yours already introduced them because the friend doesn't know that they're CIA. Anything that you can do to gain access to a person, they'll reach out to you on LinkedIn, they'll meet you at your favorite coffee shop, they'll follow you from home and go to your favorite massage parlor, whatever it is,

if they want you, they'll find a way to connect with you. Now, just because they connect with you in person doesn't mean that you're going to like talking to them. Doesn't mean that you're going to know their CIA. It doesn't mean they're going to win. It just means that they were able to start the conversation.

But then it's the skill of the officer that makes it so that you feel like you want to talk to them again, talk to them more, travel with them, be friends with them, share secrets with them. That's all based on the officer. How was CIA under Obama versus how CIA under Trump? Totally different. What are the difference?

Totally different. CIA under Barack Obama was working the way it was always built to work. Meaning the president is the head of the executive branch. CIA is under the executive branch. Remember, the U.S. government has three. branches. The legislative branch, which is all of our representatives, our Congress people, the House, the Senate, et cetera, the executive branch, which is the president and the White House, and then everybody who directly reports to the president, like Department of Defense, like CIA. And then you have

the judicial branch, which is everything that has to do with the law of the land. So the FBI is part of the judicial branch, the juries or the judges on a judicial system, all of that falls under the judicial branch of government. CIA falls under the executive branch of government, which means the executive, the president, does whatever they want to do with CIA. That's how it was built. So under President Obama, the CIA did whatever President Obama wanted him to do. And President Obama is one of the most lethal presidents in history. He used CIA for covert action worldwide. He waged a war on terror. He hunted down bin Laden. That was exactly how CIA was built to be used by a president. But in 2016, with the election of Donald Trump for his first term, CIA turned against their president.

They started saying that he was a Russian, he was guilty of Russian collusion. There were senior leaders who were signing petitions against the president. Like CIA, whether they were right or wrong about Donald Trump, is irrelevant. The point is, they were never supposed to have an opinion about the president. So when they worked against their president, Donald Trump just shut down CIA. He stopped giving them missions. He stopped giving them funding. He stopped using them.

And he basically ruined every career inside CIA, not because he was a but because CIA. but because CIA didn't do what they were supposed to do. So the president punished them. And he was like, I'm not going to use you. So for four years, all CIA did was lose people. People were quitting. They were resigning. They were being fired.

They were retiring early because they had no job anymore. They had no meaningful work. The president wasn't asking them for intelligence. He was buying his intelligence from private intelligence networks. He was collaborating with his international peers, the countries that he still trusted, but he wasn't using CIA. So then when Donald Trump left office in 2020 and Biden came back in, Biden tried to re-engage CIA the same way that Obama had. But Biden's administrative policies were focused on COVID and domestic issues. So he started hiring people back into CIA, but he was hiring them based on their gender identity and

whether or not they were gay or straight. He wasn't hiring people back into CIA who were there for the mission. He was hiring people into CIA who were there because they were in line with the domestic policies he was trying to promote. And that only lasted four years before Donald Trump took over again. And then you had all these people in government who had only been two or three years at CIA. And now they have another four years under Donald Trump. And they all left again. But this time, Donald Trump got very, very smart with CIA.

He didn't give CIA a chance. to make their own decision. He appointed Director Radcliffe in charge of CIA. He appointed a DNI who he already knew was going to be in line with his policy. So now he stacked the deck so that every leadership position in the entire stack of CIA

understands that they have to take their orders from Donald Trump. But today, do you think, is CIA weaker than how it used to be under President Obama? Yes, without a doubt. CIA will tell you it's weaker. than how it used to be under President Obama.

At the very least, the amount of talent that has left has weakened it. Second to the amount of talent, the trust that the executive branch has is not in CIA. CIA is supposed to be an agency of last resort, meaning everybody else has tried, and when they all fail, it goes to CIA. So how do you know who to trust? How do you know what intelligence is real? I was talking to a peer recently who estimated that CIA, the amount of information in the PDB that's coming from CIA is less than 40%. That more than 60% of the intelligence that's being shared in the PDB is actually coming from other countries that have partnered with the United States.

That's crazy. That means the president is being briefed. And the intelligence infrastructure of the United States doesn't even know if it's really. real. They just know that it's what they were told by Raw or ISI or the Nigerians or the Filipinos or the Australians. It's not even ours. These are the signs that you get weaker. These are the signs that you get weaker. It's why it's a very real thing. We've been talking about it however long we've been talking, Raj. The United States is not growing. It's not increasing in size and scale in power. It's on a decline that it's trying to fix. But the problem is the whole world knows we're on the decline. And guess how much the world wants to help us get better? Zero. Bingo.

You've said that Mossad, they're reckless. Why? What are they willing to do which other countries are not? So, missile is just like a very small country. And very focused. Very effective, very focused and that Mossad is one of the best in the world. One of the best in the world and what they do, which is very high risk, very targeted operations against threats to the homeland. That's what Mossad does. They don't do anything broader. But why are they reckless?

So the term reckless is because they take risks. I use the term reckless because they take risks and the risks are not always commensurate, with the risk that needs to be taken. Sometimes they move fast or they move in contrast or they do something that that seems important to them, but costs them exponentially in comparison. Just look at the attacks the Netanyahu had on the Gaza Strip. Those were reckless. He turned the whole world against Israel because of a reckless series of attacks. He could have measured his attacks. He could have reduced them. He could have found a different way to handle it, but he didn't. And that's the president of the country or the prime minister of the country. The organization that

does the prime minister's bidding isn't that much different, right? When Israel went across Iranian state boundaries to launch an incursion from drones, why did they do that? Did they do that because they had to? Did they do it because it was the least risky option? No. They did it because they wanted to send a secondary message. They could have had a much safer operation had they launched from an allied country like Jordan or had they launched even from their own country. They didn't have to cross into Iranian boundaries, but they did. Rank the agencies for me.

Oh, let's just be specific, not just go around the world, rank these five for me. CIA, Massad, MSS, raw, ISI. And then do you want them ranked on intelligence collection? Do you want them ranked on... Who's powerful? Is the most powerful based on intelligence collection or is it based off of assassination or is it based off of being secret? What do you want to know? Because there's different, they're a different rank for different skills.

Okay. Let's make assassination as a thing. Okay. Then most powerful in all the aspects. Okay. And then third would be just purely when it comes to country protection. Okay. Nothing else.

Nothing to do with the world in the country. So when it comes to protecting their own, CIA is at the top, Massad is second, raw is third, MSS is fourth, ISI is last, protecting their own. ISI doesn't care about protecting their own? They can't. Even if they cared about it, they can't. Because there's too many dangers inside Pakistan, right? So Pakistanis are killed all the time by criminals, by terrorists, by angry neighbors. it's a it's a it's a rough place not like India when it comes to power and I'm going to define power as projecting power right I think China is first because the MSS projects power worldwide the only other population that identifies as their own country before where they live is the

Chinese Indians are like that the Chinese are like that so they have people and eyes and spies everywhere second to them, I would say it's the United States. Then I would say Massad. Then I would say Raw. Then I would say ISI again. So projecting power. MSS.

Yeah, MSS, because they have incredible power. When it comes to assassinations, Mossad is the top of the list. I would say ISI is the second on the list. I would say raw is the third on the list. MSS is the fourth on the list. CIA is the fifth on the list. And that's because CIA has so many challenges killing political figures, which is the definition of assassination. CIA just the by it's so difficult that we just tell ourselves, don't even try.

Kill a military officer, kill a terrorist, kill somebody lower down because trying to kill a politician is a very difficult thing to do because it violates so many laws. That's why the whole Trump hunting Maduro thing is so unlikely. We all talk about it, but we already know. Trump already knows. It's, it violates a dozen laws to try to kill Maduro. So if he's going to do it, he's going to have to find a way around all those laws. Do you think what happened recently in Nepal or Bangladesh? You know what happened? There was a bombing, I want to say, in Bangladesh. Like in Nepal, when they, where they threw the entire government. Oh. And the youth was on the road making government officials run for their life and they overturned the entire government. Do you know?

I know what you talked about. Yeah. Yeah. So do you, do you, do you? Do you think stuff like that is done by other countries? I think stuff like that is influenced by other countries. And that's part of what I'm saying with why it's so much more affected to create chaos. Even if you think about what happened in France with the parliament being dismantled, right? The parliament was reset. There are certain countries in the world who benefit from chaos in your country. There are certain countries that benefit from chaos in France and certain countries that benefit from chaos in in

Bangladesh. So they are, it's worth it to them to invest and create that chaos. It's worth it for them to feed both sides. Hey, here's one exist, is an existing conflict, whatever that issue is, human rights, labor, women's rights, you name it. We're going to, we're going to fund the side that says pro-human rights and we're going to fund that side that says anti-human rights. We're going to fund the side that says pro-gender identity and we're going to fund the side that says anti-gender identity because as long as we're putting more fuel on an existing fire, the fire burns bigger and hotter and it's more likely to do greater damage. It's hard to create a government collapse. It's easy to create enough government chaos that the people themselves make their own government

collapse.