EverydaySpy Podcast - Use This CIA Trick to Read Anyone in 30 Seconds (You’ll Never See People the Same)

Episode Date: July 23, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:32 And it's crazy. So that formula for breaking down someone's personality was a very, was a thing that you carried with you everywhere. Everywhere. You use that as a tool for. Still, right now. Like what I did to you that day, which I hope you didn't feel offended or anything. But that's a tool I use with every- With every business partner, with every possible, like every new collaborator.
Starting point is 00:00:57 when I'm getting coffee from a barista, right? Like I am constantly assessing personality according to those Myers-Briggs 16 personality type indicator options. Yeah, it's an awesome tool. And everybody gets it wrong because you read Cosmo Magazine and you read men's health.
Starting point is 00:01:14 You read all this garbage mainstream media that tells you you're supposed to know your own personality. But what the hell is the purpose of knowing your own personality? Just because you know what you are isn't, doesn't make it a powerful tool for you to use. It's like, like looking at yourself in the mirror and you're like, oh, I've got black hair and a beard. Well, haza, that's, that's, that's, you knew that already, right?
Starting point is 00:01:38 You found out that you fall, you fell into four type indicator labels. That didn't teach you anything new about you. You were like, oh, that's why I like to sit and read. And that's why it gives me energy when I do that. And this is why, you know, I make a decision and I go with my decision. It didn't tell you anything new that you didn't already know. what's powerful is when you use personality type profiling as a tool against other people. Because if you can identify their personality type through a conversation, now all of a sudden you know way more about them than they know about you.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Does that make sense? Yeah, absolutely. I know it's twisted. I know it's not often a popular concept for people, but that's how I use personality. Yeah, it's just hard to remember a lot of it. You know what I mean? Like it's very nuanced with the different types of like under, like, under, you know, each category, whether it's introvert, extrovert, feeling, thinking.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I mean, there's so many different, you know, variables to each one of those. So, let me, and if you're down for it, I'll give you my quick rule of thumb that I always used to remember it. Yeah. Right. So you got 16 letters. Well, you've got eight letters, essentially, and 16 combinations of those letters. The combinations, all the big numbers don't matter. All you've got to think about to understand a human being's personality, any culture, any age, any gender, any level of education, right? Backed by science. All you have to do is remember four questions. One, the first question is, where does a person get their energy? Is it, do they get their energy being alone? Do they get their energy being around other people? That's your,
Starting point is 00:03:10 that's your extrovert versus your introvert. If that person spends time alone and being alone makes them feel more energetic like you, when you read a book by yourself, you come out of it feeling more energetic. When I read a book by myself, dude, I don't read a book by myself. I fall sleep. It's a huge drain on me to be alone in a quiet place doing something. Oh, it's miserable. I am an extrovert. So right there's the first question. Where does a person get their energy? Alone or in a group? Knowing that about somebody else, right away, you know if you want that person's attention, if you want that person's trust, if you want that person's best ideas, you have to put them in the environment that suits them. Take them away from people. If I wanted to have a meaningful conversation with
Starting point is 00:03:56 you, I would not take you to a bar. That's just going to drain your energy. It's going to suck up your time and your effort, right? If I take you to like a coffee shop, a nice quiet coffee shop, or if we go have a private dinner in a private room at a nice restaurant, just you and me and like good food, good drinks, that's that's just setting you up for success, which setting you up for success is setting me up for success in the spy world, right? So that's introvert extrovert. Make sense? Yeah. Before you move on to the next one, how do you tell if somebody, how do you tell after or just meeting somebody, whether they're an introvert or an extrovert. So you can watch their cues as they spend time with you,
Starting point is 00:04:31 but the real benefit, the real advantage is asking them questions about what you know is extrovert and introvert behavior. Like I asked you questions that day. I was like, oh, what do you do when you have free time? You're like, oh, I just love to sit on the sofa and just hang out. I like to read. I'll watch a movie. Like, I like my me time.
Starting point is 00:04:50 My wife likes her meet time too, right? Everybody who is an introvert will have a concept and some, definition of their me time, right? My escape room, my she shed, my my me time. People who are extroverts, you will never hear me talk about me time. You'd be like, what do you like to do when it's fun? I was, oh, I like to go out to the beach with some friends. I like to go on a boat. I like to go have some adventure. Like, we always talk about adventure. I have a good buddy of mine who's still at the agency. And we used to just text each other on the weekends when we were single, be like, we need to go on an adventure. I'm bored. Like, we need to go do something. And it was,
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Starting point is 00:06:50 I have to go to Miami in like three weeks. I am seriously considering flying to Miami just because I don't want to sit in the car for three and a half hours by myself listening to an audio book. Dude, I absolutely love road trips alone. If I didn't do, like if I could choose any other profession, I think I would choose being a truck driver. Wow. It's one of those big sleepers in the back going across the country. It's a big part of why I left the Air Force too when I started flying and I realized how similar flying was to driving. because you're just burning holes in the sky.
Starting point is 00:07:23 All those pilots out there, those Air Force pilots, even if they're in like an F-16, they go on like a seven-hour sortie, alone in a cockpit, just like you're alone behind a wheel, just driving, just flying, right? That just sounded miserable to me. That's so wild.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That's so wild that people can feel so different about those things. And that's what's so powerful about it, man. Nobody, very few people stop to reflect on what brings me energy. We're all too tied up in what does society expect. So there's specific questions you can ask to figure out definitively what type of person that is. Yeah, it's not necessarily specific questions as much as it's, you know, you're targeting specific areas with the questions you're asking, right? What do you like to do in your free time is one of those questions? You know, what, what's, what do you remember as a kid really liking? If you talk to
Starting point is 00:08:12 somebody like, oh, I used to love drawing as a kid, boom. There's somebody who is probably an introvert. I used to love reading. I used to love watching movies. I used to love playing by myself. And then you're going to have those kids who are like, oh, I love playing soccer. Oh, I love going to the playground. You know, I loved school. Most of the people who say they love school, love school because of the school. Okay. Right. They don't say they love school because they love their geometry teacher. They love hanging out with their friends. And basically a bus delivers them to a social outlet. And then a bus delivers them home at the end of the day. It's a good deal for an extrovert. Right. Right. Okay. What's the next part of it? All right. So then you go,
Starting point is 00:08:46 from your e, your extrovert, your introvert, your E, your I, you go into your Intuitor or your sensor, your N and your S. All that means is, do you, do you take data that has math behind it? Like, do you use your sensory organs, your five senses, to collect data? Or do you just use your intuition to collect data? So, sensor, S, uses the five senses to collect data. Intuitor uses intuition to collect data. So if I believe something, I believe it when I see it. I believe it when I taste it. I believe it when I smell it.
Starting point is 00:09:24 That's a sensor. I believe it. That's an intuitor. So if somebody who's an S, you're going to have to prove it to them by showing them, letting them touch it, whatever, right? If it's an intuitor, all it has to do is make sense to them logically in their own mind and their own belief set, and they're going to believe it, right?
Starting point is 00:09:42 Intuitors are the reason that religions exist. right? Because what is faith? What is Islam? What is Christianity? What is Buddhism? Right. I believe it is true. That's just intuition. That's just you believing something. Nobody can prove it. You can't touch it, taste it, feel it, whatever, right? Even when you feel like you're being moved by the Holy Spirit or when you feel like, you know, you have been touched by enlightenment, it's just a, it's just intuition.
Starting point is 00:10:08 It's something that you can't describe. So when you talk to somebody and you hear them like referenced data, through their senses. I went to this place. The lights were low. The walls had this cool yellow glow. Right? The music was the perfect level.
Starting point is 00:10:25 It was great sounding. They're describing their environment. They're describing data through their five senses. But when you go somewhere and they're like, oh, I felt like a million bucks. They treated me so good. I can't wait to go back there again. Right. Now that's somebody who's just talking through their own interpretation,
Starting point is 00:10:41 their own intuition, in their own intuition about what they experienced there. Okay. So that's the same thing. When you and I were talking, I don't hear you say anything about, like, I complimented your audio. I complimented your video setup and all this stuff that had to do with five senses.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And you were unenthused to talk about any of those things, right? But when we started talking about personality, you just lit right up. And you're like, oh, that's so interesting. Just because I could, like, you had intuitive cogs in your head just spinning. And that's what a lot of folks are. A lot of folks are intuitors.
Starting point is 00:11:11 It's hard sometimes to find sensors. Interesting. Yeah, my wife, who is my total opposite, is a sensor. I get excited about stuff just because it's exciting to me. Right. And then trying to convince her to get excited, it's like pulling teeth. It's insane, dude. It's like, oh, I got this great idea, babe.
Starting point is 00:11:28 We're going to go do this with the kids on the weekend. It's going to be sweet. And she's like, well, what are we going to do when we get there? How are we going to get there? What are the kids going to wear? What's the weather supposed to look like? What are we going to eat on the way there? Like, what's the plan for lunch when we get there?
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Starting point is 00:12:08 because there's no better time than now. Gregoose, make time wait. It's responsibly. We're going to the beach. Let's just go. It's going to be sweet. Yeah. How could it not be sweet?
Starting point is 00:12:21 Yeah. So that's the difference between an intuitor and a sensor. Okay. So how did they interpret data? Your second question, right? First one, where do they get their energy? Second one, how do they interpret data? Got it.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Okay. Your third one, if you want to move on to the third. Yep, yep. Your feeler, right, versus your perceiver. Your F versus your P. Feelers make, this is, the question here is, how do they make their decisions? feelers make their decision based on their gut. My gut tells me to do this.
Starting point is 00:12:48 My gut tells me to do that. That is my feeling. This is right. This is wrong. It's how it feels to me. Perceivers are perceiving the best decision based on what's available to them, based on either intuition or sensory data, right? So both are looking back at their previous, you know, the data piece,
Starting point is 00:13:09 and then they're using that data to make a decision. But what decision are they making? right gut feelers make their gut decisions perceivers make a decision based off of what they think is their processing their analytical reasoning of the data okay right like that beach example for me I wanted to go to the beach with my kids because it's going to be freaking sick
Starting point is 00:13:27 that's just me being a perceiver based on my intuition every other time I've gone to the beach it's been a lot of fun I think it's going to be fun this time I'm a pee let's go my wife who's a feeler her gut instinct is like I don't think this feels right. And then she leans back on who being an S. And she's like, how's it going to look? How's it going to feel? How's it going to touch? Like, where are we going to eat? And all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:13:51 it all falls apart. So, wow. And maybe it's not as simple as I promised you it would be after. No, no, it makes perfect sense. No, I get it. I get it. Especially the test took me like two hours to do. Yeah. It sucks to go through it sometimes. And that's a big part of the reason why people don't get a really accurate representation because you take these tests online or you take a test in a magazine. It's got like 11 questions. That doesn't tell you anything. Like to really take a proper Myers-Briggs exam, an actual eval, psycho-eval, it takes hundreds of questions. And the questions have to be like cross-referenced, whether automatically or by a professional. The thing is I feel like I can be both on both sides of those things. Like sometimes I'm a feeler and sometimes I'm more analytical. And sometimes I combine.
Starting point is 00:14:37 the two. Like if I'm really thinking about a critical thing I need answered or I'm trying to make a critical decision on something, I use my gut and I use my analytical evaluating tools. Yeah, absolutely. You can, right? Because this is what's powerful about personality. Personality does not tell you what you're limited to. Personality tells you what you defund. Rosen lasagna, medium power.
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Starting point is 00:15:30 Right? So it's like, when you are having a good day, when you're in your zone, and you have all the resources you can imagine. You had a good night's rest, you had a good meal, you feel good, you've got like all the computers are running and they're all running at top speed, right? You can use everything. You can use your analytical side, your feeling side, you can use your sensory side, you can use your perception side, you can use historical evidence. You can fight off the urge to take a nap if you're by myself. I mean, I can go for a long drive. I can fight off the urge to sleep.
Starting point is 00:16:00 But that's not what personality is. Personality is what is your default. When all the resources are taken away and thrown out the window. When you're under pressure, when you're under stress, when you are under rested, what's left? What are you going to do by default? That is your Myers-Briggs personality. Okay. That's why it's so powerful for spies.
Starting point is 00:16:20 That's why it's so powerful in espionage. Espionage is a stressful resource draining activity. Like you, if you and I are meeting, you and I met today at 11, if this was a spy operation, I would have left to meet with you at 11. I would have been on the road since like 6 a.m. I would have done a full surveillance detection route to make sure that nobody was following me. I would have had to stop two or three different places to get different items to bring with me to today's meeting
Starting point is 00:16:45 so that I was never caught with all of the items at the same time earlier in, if I would have been under surveillance earlier in the op. You see what I'm saying? So I would have been draining resources for the last five hours in preparation to sit with you where you're coming in the door fresh.
Starting point is 00:17:04 And then after we do our special, thing, right, I would go on another multi-mode, multi-hour SDR to make sure that I didn't pick up surveillance after meeting with you on my way back to wherever my own personal headquarters is. Like hours of this, of draining resource. And that's when I'm meeting with you and you don't know that I'm a spy. Once you start giving me secrets and we're both in this together, you've got just as much stress more because you're not trained like I am. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And that's what's so crazy to me about when you're doing this in the field in real life, there are some incredibly powerful people out there that you would never guess have the energy, the resilience, the creativity, the intelligence, the capacity to cope with the stress that they have. And they are honestly like putting themselves on the front line of danger, giving us secrets about you name the hostile threat, whether it's terrorists, whether it's Russia, whether it's China, whether it's whatever, right? Drug dealers and cartels, people can manage that stress because the four code default personality indicators that they have
Starting point is 00:18:14 when all their resources are drained, they have the capacity because they have the right four letters at the bottom to commit espionage. Wow. Yeah, man, it's powerful.

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