ExtinctZoo - Piranhas: The Animal That Just Doesn't Make Sense

Episode Date: June 3, 2026

Terrifying, blood thirsty, lethal. These are just some ways I am sure many people describe piranhas, who over the years have built a pretty respectable reputation built off fear, yet in reality, these... guys are much more chill and crazy in other ways than we've been led to believe.

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Starting point is 00:00:59 In the early 1900s, a group of Brazilian fishermen pulled off arguably the greatest nature scam in history. And the poor soul they pulled it on was none other than the former U.S. president, Deodor Roosevelt, who at the time was fresh off of a failed presidential run and looking for some adventure in the Amazon. And the locals, well, they wanted to put on a show for our famous American. So they got to work weeks in advance, netting off a section of the river and stuffing it with piranhas, all the while making sure not to feed them a single thing. So that by the time Teddy rolled around, every single fish in the pen was starving and ready to chump on anything that dared move in their general direction.
Starting point is 00:01:34 And so of course, when Roosevelt showed up, like clockwork, the fisherman dragged out a live cow and shoved it into the water, which turned red, frothy, and bloody in seconds. While Teddy stood there watching what he was 100% sure, was the most terrifying fish on the planet, where he then proceeded to recount the fish in its best-selling book through the Brazilian wilderness, and calling it, I quote, the most ferocious fish in the world, with her malignant and dies and cruelly armed jaws. And yet, despite me telling you this, this story is in fact false, even though it's been spread around the internet for years, including by some more reputable sources.
Starting point is 00:02:08 So yeah, there were no locals conniving to show false brutality of Amazon, no piranhas, no cow, it simply didn't happen. The book part was real, but not this embellished, quote unquote, adventure, if you will. And that, my friends, is incredibly fitting, considering that basically sums up what we think we know about piranhas as a whole. So in other words, basically everything you know is wrong, or at least wrong-ish. And so, despite Hollywood building entire horror franchises around these guys and convincing kids around the world that falling into the wrong river meant being reduced to a skeleton in under 60 seconds,
Starting point is 00:02:39 or dare I even say 10 seconds, this is all really just not true. And so to understand what pranhas actually are, you have to start with a family they belong to, the Sarasalmits. And the easiest way to picture this family is as a spectrum, with a true pranhas actually. sitting at one end and then the Paku's at the other and roughly a hundred species in between. The family name itself comes from Latin for saw salmon, which is a nod to the distinctive saw-like keel running along the belly of every fish in the group. And they all share a latterly compressed body that kind of looks like someone took a normal fish and squeezed it from both sides until it was a little too flat for its size.
Starting point is 00:03:14 But here's the first very interesting part, which is that this whole family descends from a common herbivorous ancestor, specializing not in meat flesh, but plant flesh, and only later splintering out to different branches that included more, well, interesting diets. So what you've got today is around 60 species of piranhas, along with dozens of other species split between Paku's and silver dollars, all sharing somewhat of the same body plant, but doing very different things with it. But when I say different, I really mean different. Take the black Paku, for example, which can reach close to one meter or three feet in length, and push past 40 kilograms or 88 pounds, making it the largest of all the sawsamins, including obviously all types of piranhas. But when you take a look at it head on, you'll quickly realize there's something very different as going on.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Because instead of a mouthful of serrated triangle blades, it's packing broad, flat molar-like teeth that also look kind of uncannily human-like. And it would honestly, if I saw it in the wild, probably make me nope out just as fast as piranhas would. But the reason it has says teeth is actually pretty straightforward. Because when the Amazon floods every year, inundating tens of millions of hectares, the pack who follows the rising water right into the floodplains where it cruises through now down forest eating fallen fruit and cracking open nuts and also generally doing something that's quite underappreciated and honestly a bit surprising too which is acting as one of the amazon's most important seed dispersers and yeah you heard that right this is a fish that lives in well the water
Starting point is 00:04:42 and yet is key to growing trees which well live on land into 2011 study tracked them and found that these fish hold on its seeds in their guts for up to 12 days before depositing them, with some individuals carrying seeds as far as 5.5 kilometers or 3.4 miles from the mother tree. The team also went through the stomach contents of 230 different fish, pulling out nearly 700,000 seeds from 22 different species of trees and lianas, which is very impressive. And to put this into perspective, only the Asian elephants and African hornbills are known to disperse seeds as far in their guts. So here we have a fish beating most of the animal kingdom, despite being quite tiny in comparison and a non-terrestrial. And to top it all off, a well-fed, 10-kilogram or 22-pound individual can have over 1 kilogram
Starting point is 00:05:27 or 2.2 pounds of seeds in his guts. So, yeah, my guy's literally a mobile seed pouch. Now, when we get to the so-called real pranhas, things get more complicated, but in a totally different direction. You see, most recognized prana species fall into a handful of genera, primarily pygocentris, Sarasalamus, Pristo Bryson, Pygopristis, and then people sometimes also including the likes of cataprion. And within this group, the dietary diversity is bananas, pun intended. The red-bellied piranha, pygocentras, and terry, is the dreaded species most responsible for Hollywood's whole reputation of these fish. And its pygocentric relatives all share that convex, bulldog-shaped head slash face, and a proportionally massive lower jaw packed with razor-sharp triangular teeth with each tooth-fitting,
Starting point is 00:06:13 into a socket on the adjacent tooth, and thus forming what is essentially a continuous serrated blade that runs the entire length of the jaw. And so, the whole setup looks like it's been designed for the worst possible purpose. And honestly, it kind of is, depending on your perspective, seeing that it is a jaw optimized for cutting, and rapidly at that. But the real question comes down to what it's actually cutting, and the answer is a lot more peculiar than you might think, because the red-bellied prana is not the red meat lover you might think it is. Instead, it mainly feeds on insects, worms, crustaceans, fish, and then also fallen fruit and seeds. So, shocker, but unlike what Hollywood might have you believe, omnivory is the rule with these guys,
Starting point is 00:06:53 not carnivory. And then other pranhas still go for that umami goodness, but are pacifists at heart, kind of. And what I mean by this is take the wimple prana, catapri and mento, for example, which has evolved one of the weirder feeding strategies in freshwater biology, and that's eating, wait for it, scales. Now you're probably like, what? How does it go about doing that? Well, it's odd because like I said, they don't really have a vested interest in murder,
Starting point is 00:07:19 but rather just the shiny stuff, i.e. scales, which are removed by executing a high-speed ramming strike to literally knock the scales out. In 2005 study, used high-speed footage to capture the strike, and it's something else, with the fish achieving a gap angle of nearly 120 degrees, which is unusual enough on its own, even when putting aside the whole eats shiny things bit.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And so the end result is that the host fish survives, albeit probably traumatized, the scales regenerate when the wimple prana gets a meal that essentially renews itself. And interestingly, the fish can actually switch tactics depending on what it's going after. Because when chasing elusive prey or grabbing loose scales floating in the water, it uses a more typical suction strike, much like a normal predator. But when going after a specific target fish for scale removal, it deploys the full force gape attack. So, in other words, this is a flexible weirdo, not... Just a one trick weirdo. And the Wimple isn't even the only freaky guy in the family, because several other Sarasalmud species are what ichthyologists call terrogophagists,
Starting point is 00:08:19 meaning they specialize in nipping fins rather than scales. There's even one species, Sarasalmas marginatus, that has been observed sometimes acting as a cleaner fish for its larger red-bellied prana relatives, picking parasites off of them. So here we have a prana grooming another prana with no bloodthirsty defleshing involved. Who would have thunk? And running through all of this dietary derivative, diversity is one share of trait that's quite peculiar to say the least, and that's their dental system.
Starting point is 00:08:45 See, generally speaking, most vertebrates replace their teeth one at a time throughout their lives, or at certain points in their lives. But piranhas and packus do something different, in that they shed and grow the entire row of teeth on one side of the jaw simultaneously. So basically, the whole right or left side just suddenly loosens, falls out as a unit, and then the row of replacement teeth that has been developing beneath the surface snap right into place, after which the opposite side does the same thing. And interestingly, this is not an adaptation for meat eating, as one might assume, instead with one study finding that every single Sarasalmud shares this trait, with just one exception. And so rather the real reason why this matters is due to the fact that they all share interlocking teeth,
Starting point is 00:09:26 which simply would not work, or work as well, if a tooth was missing because then it would break up the continuous edge, so to speak. And unsurprisingly, the tools used to use their tools, in other words how they find food are just as specialized as their teeth though unsurprisingly they get way less attention now like i said the body is laterally compressed and they have these relatively large eyes with some studies having referred to them in certain species as being exceptionally well developed likely being adaptation for the low-light environment of the flooded forest they also have what seems to be pretty big nostrils considering the fact that well you can see them i mean how often can you think of seeing a fish's nostrils which might be outing me as someone who doesn't really know his way around a fishing pole but regardless sniffing is definitely a skill of theirs and one early study on them noted that they had highly differentiated olfactory systems showing a strong degree of specialization. They say those that their nose is clearly a strength of theirs.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And considering that they have to navigate in what is often murky waters, the ability to detect any potential food through a non-visual system is quite the game changer. And once a tasty morsel is found, absolutely no mercy is shown. With the black piranha, Sarasolmus Rambius, holding the record for the most powerful bite of any bony fish ever recorded, measured at the 320 newtons at the front of the jaw. And for reference, that force nearly three times what an American alligator of comparable size can produce. And so when you correct for its body mass,
Starting point is 00:10:47 it's putting out force more than 30 times the fish's own weight, a feat that is not only unmatched among bony fish, but also amongst vertebrates, period. And the comparisons just keep going. Because when you scale for body size, the Black Prana actually outclasses great white sharks, hammerhead sharks, barracudas, and get this. Also, the Megalodon.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yes, the freaking Megalodon. As well as a nearly 4,000 pound or 2,000 kilogram armored Devonian nightmare, which you might have heard of, known as the Dunkley Osteus. And the researchers measured all this by catching wild pranhas and getting them to clamp down on a force measuring device, an experiment that sounds easy enough on paper, but I imagine in practice was a tad bit terrifying. Unsurprisingly, the muscle complex for the bite
Starting point is 00:11:32 takes up quite a bit of weight at 2% of the fish's total body mass, which might not sound like a lot, but to put that into perspective, there has never been a bony fish recorded as such a high proportion. But here's the ironic bit. This power is not typically used to attack large animals, but is instead often more deployed on plants, fallen fruits, and animals much smaller than themselves, like insects and small fish. And sometimes scales are the tasty finner two when they get the chance. So basically, the jaw is way overbuilt for the job it usually does, which kind of makes you wonder what evolution would do if it took the same setup and then just pushed it even further. And a, oh wait, we actually have a great example of that. Enter Megaprana Paranensis, a fish which lived in what is now Argentina, roughly 9 to 6.8 million years ago,
Starting point is 00:12:15 and was something else entirely, literally and metaphorically. This absolute specimen of a specimen measured about 71 centimeters, nearly 2.5 feet long, weighing somewhere around 10 kilograms or 22 pounds, which already makes it several times the weight of a modern prana. And this, by the way, is just the lower estimate. with some studies giving it a weight potentially 73 kilograms or 161 pounds. But what's kind of strange is that the holotype, which, by the way, is just a pre-maxilla, shows the teeth arranged in a zigzag pattern, with a tooth morphology that looks like an intermediate between true pranas and their Paku cousins,
Starting point is 00:12:52 which suggests that perhaps this animal set either at a transition point in the family's evolutionary history or, and more likely, at a more intermediate diet. But one thing that certainly wasn't no intermediate level was their bite force. Because remember how I said that the black prana had the highest adjusted bite force of any known bony fish? Well, scratch that. Because one has a beat. And that's, of course, the megaprona, who could have possibly topped out at a bite force at 9,498 newtons. Which means that these numbers, a 73 kilogram megaprona would have bitten with the same amount of force of a 3,000 kilogram great white shark.
Starting point is 00:13:27 3,000 freaking kilos. The same study also tested whether the megaprona's teeth shape, combined with a force, could fracture the bones. and heart tissue of large animals. And the answer was a resounding and obvious, yes, with the teeth being able to peer through a cow femur and go through turtle shells like butter. So basically, here you have a giant prana, or should I say mega prana,
Starting point is 00:13:47 that could open turtles like a can opener, crunch through genuine megafauna femurs, which is, for the record, one of the strongest bones in the body. So a good thing it's been dead for several million years. Am I right? Now, speaking of megafauna, despite their reputation,
Starting point is 00:14:02 modern piranhas don't actually attack large vertebrates regularly, with much of its negative reputation coming from records like Roosevelt's, as well as its habit of consuming dead bodies, which can make it look like the piranhas were the original killer and not just a scavenger. And interestingly, and contrary to what you might think, studies that have actually looked at necrophagous consumption in the ecosystem, i.e. the eating of dead things, I found that it's actually various species of catfish
Starting point is 00:14:26 that are responsible for most of the consumption of drowned people, not pranas. And if you've ever seen River Monsters, you might have seen the one episode where Jeremy Wade took red-bellied pranhas, put them in a pool, a small pool that is, proceeded to put blood and meat in said small pool, and then literally the mad lad jumped in the water with them. And guess what happened? The end of River Monsters. Just kidding. Absolutely nothing. Nothing at all.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Well, actually, something did happen, which was that they moved to the edge of the swimming pool away from the scary man thing. And the fact that they did this also speaks towards another myth of these guys. which is that people believe that groups or shoals of piranha's main purpose is cooperative hunting. And yet, there is actually no evidence of this at all. With the shoaling or grouping of these animals, actually instead being an anti-preditor behavior, not a predator behavior, with a shoaling really just being a strength and number kind of thing. And this makes a lot of sense when you think about it, especially since, well, they're not that big, and also because their predators are no joke either, as they include Caymans,
Starting point is 00:15:26 giant river otters, birds, other fish, and river dolphins. And so to survive in a river full of things that will eat you, pranas, shoal. And the composition of that shoal is not random either. One study exposed red-bellied pranas to a fake cormorond, which is a type of bird, in order to simulate a predator attack. And what they found was, is that fish in groups of eight return to the resting breathing rate much faster than fish in just groups of two, with the smaller groups showing elevated ventilatory rates for much longer after the simulated threat,
Starting point is 00:15:55 which, just like when you hyperventilate before having to give a public presentation, is a physiological measure of sustained stress. So basically, in a large group, the perceived risk per individual drops, and the fish can chill more quickly. The shoal, by the way, is also socially stratified, with the older, bigger individuals occupying the central positions where exposure is lowest, while the younger, smaller little guys get pushed to the edges, i.e. the worst location, where predation risk is higher. So basically how human society works, too.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Just kidding. Kind of. But overall, looks like Hollywood is taking another L. as they got this pretty much exactly backwards, because that, quote-unquote, menacing death cloud shoal you see in movies is in reality just a giant huddle of nervous fish, trying not to die. And another wrinkle in the big, Eat You Alive, scary fish picture is their reproduction,
Starting point is 00:16:43 which adds another behavioral layer that directly explains many prana attacks. Now, you have to understand pranhas are generally seasonal breeders, with the males during the naughty season, excavating bull-shaped nests in soft sediment, with a female then depositing her eggs in adhesive clumps, that cling to submerged vegetation in the nest. And during this time, the soon-to-be parents guard their starter home with all the aggressiveness who come to expect at pranhas,
Starting point is 00:17:06 attacking pretty much anything that enters the nest zone. And yes, that include people, mainly their feet, that are trespassing on their home. So, fun, not-so-fun fact, many of the documented pranobytes on humans seems to be associated with defensive behavior during the breeding season, not deliberate hunting or the likes, with one 2025 review,
Starting point is 00:17:25 looking at 711 documented pranobites over a 10-year period, and finding that roughly 82% of them were classified as mild, with single bites instead of repeated ones, which is exactly the pattern you'd expect from a defensive bite, not a feeding strike. And guess what? About 30% of attacks happened during the breeding season, lining up perfectly with a nest defense hypothesis, while then another 26% was associated with improper food disposal in rivers, meaning that people were basically chumming up the water without realizing it. And so a good chunk of these incidents, in other words, prana attacks, trace back to humans either stepping into nests or just baiting the fish themselves,
Starting point is 00:18:03 which is, you know, on us. Now, obviously, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that these guys are harmless, because, well, they're not. As serious wounds from pranhas have been documented, and while exceedingly rare, human fatalities attributed directly to pranhas have also been noted. But at the same time, there are many cases that seem to be bit muddy, in the sense that it's not clear if someone died due to drowning and then were partially eaten by pranas, i.e. scavenging, or if it was the pranas that actually took them out.
Starting point is 00:18:31 But considering how extensive their range is and how abundant they are within said range, the fact that human deaths are so exceedingly rare does say a lot. But even with that said, the prana does rightly earn some hate. Perhaps not so much from us humans, but rather from other fish. Because like I said, pranhas do sometimes feed them the fins and scales of their cousins, and while that doesn't kill them, obviously not everyone appreciates being forcibly stripped by an annoying big-toothed fish. And so in response to this public indecency epidemic, some of them have developed some pretty interesting defenses to it,
Starting point is 00:19:02 such as potentially the Erepima, one of the largest freshwater fish on earth who can reach a staggering 3 meters or 10 feet in length, and weigh more than 200 kilograms or 440 pounds. And what does Big Chungus do to prevent this? Well, it's built different, not just from a size perspective, but also its scales. You see, each scale is made up of a hard, mineralized outer layer and a collagen-rich inner layer, whose long fibers are arranged in rotating sheets in a configuration called a bulligan pattern, which basically looks like a spiral staircase of collagen and allows the material to deform and absorb force rather than break under it. And researchers at UC San Diego and Berkeley tested Ariphyma scales
Starting point is 00:19:41 against actual pranathe, and the results were quite shocking. As not only could the scales easily withstands simulated pranobytes, but they were also capable of withstanding pressures up to 1.7 million pounds per square inch, which for perspective is close to twice the pressure that U.S. nuclear submarine holes can withstand. So yeah, built different is perhaps even an understatement. There is even some hypotheses around the idea that Arapima scales evolved specifically as anti-prana armor. But then again, there has also been others who refute it, saying that pranas are much too small to drive such evolutionary pressure among the Arapaima. But it's certainly a cool idea. The idea that one of the world's largest freshwater fish
Starting point is 00:20:21 had it developed some of the most complex scales ever seen just to survive. So yeah, prana's pretty wild. Thanks for watching, and until next time.

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