Fantasy Baseball Today - 03/26 Fantasy Baseball Podcast: Big News & ADP Movers

Episode Date: March 26, 2018

With Madison Bumgarner, Scott Kingery and Greg Bird we've got some big news (and a lot of smaller news items) to get to, but first we'll tell you the important things you may have missed over the week...end including STL bullpen news (1:25), the MIL rotation (3:41) and more ... Where are the injured players being drafted now (6:42)? Kingery vs. Yoan Moncada (16:00), plus Closer updates (28:35) ... ADP risers (31:31) including Starling Marte, Matt Carpenter and a group of SPs (39:50). ADP fallers (43:10) including Gerrit Cole for some reason ... Your emails at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What did you miss over the weekend? We are going to tell you a lot of stuff. You probably saw a lot of it, but you might have missed some as well. We're here to catch you up. Welcome to Fantasy Baseball today. We got the Bumgarner News. We got the Greg Bird News. We got the Scott Kingery News.
Starting point is 00:00:31 We got a lot of stuff going on. I feel guys like it was sort of an injury-free preseason for a long time. But now it's coming in waves, I guess, huh? How is everybody today? What's that? Waves not window. Waves not Windows. It was just a dumb inside Scott Head's jokes.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Come on, Scott. Not a good way to start the podcast. And what was the question you asked us? Well, I asked you two questions, which was bad hosting on my part. It was about the injuries, but it was also, how are you? How was your weekend? Whatever the hell is it. That's just a bad question to start a podcast always.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Rock Chalk. My weekend was wonderful. Ah, yes. Congratulations. Great game yesterday. Great game. Kansas with the win over two. in overtime, and that means we are going to have our final contested in the For the People
Starting point is 00:01:20 League, because we will pick from the leaders in the contest. Anyway, I'm going to stop talking now. What's the most important thing that happened over the weekend that people might not know about, but we are on top of because we cover fantasy baseball, Scott White? Dominic Leon is the Cardinals closer, because Luke Gregerson looked like he was making progress from that oblique injury that sidelined him early, and then whoops, hamstring injury. So he will begin the season on the 15-day DL, or sorry, the 10-day DL. Maybe it'll sideline for 15 days, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:51 But I think something to keep in mind here is that I wasn't confident Luke Gregerson was the Cardinals' best closing option anyway. He was certainly the most experienced. I think Dominic Leone, based on what he showed last year, with a great cut fastball, is a better pitcher. And he could just keep this job the rest of the seasons. So definitely a priority pickup in league where saves are scarce. Okay. Now, Leon, 256 ERA last year with Toronto, 23 walks, 81 strikeouts in 70 and a 30. He had a great year.
Starting point is 00:02:26 And, you know, he's had two really good years and two shortened seasons that weren't very good. So he's a reliever, I guess. The bad ones were in between. Yes. And I think he made progress with one that specific pitch last year that allowed him to turn the corner. That's my optimism for him And he's had a great spring Would you say that Gregerson is still worth drafting
Starting point is 00:02:48 And putting on your DL? Yeah Yeah, I mean if you have a DL spot Yeah, why not? I mean, they could go back to him. It's one of those things like I can't Like it seems like a coin flip What they do to me after this DL stints over
Starting point is 00:03:03 Okay, so with that said It's tough right now Because guys aren't officially on the DL yet So if you have a league, You can't put players on the DL. It's kind of tough. As a commissioner, I will say to people, my league members, I will say, if you have someone that we know is going to start the season on the DL, like an Adam Wainwright or something,
Starting point is 00:03:24 I will happily put him on the DL for you. So you could be that kind of commissioner, that Adam Azer type of commissioner, and be nice and do that. No chance. Scott White is doing that. No chance. I've been doing that in certain leagues. You shouldn't draft Adam Wainwright, though. You should draft that.
Starting point is 00:03:38 It was the first guy who came to my head. Okay. Heath, the most important thing that has. happen over the weekend that people might not know about, but we are on top of because we cover fantasy baseball. The Milwaukee Brewers made headlines over the offseason signing bad old pitcher after bad old pitcher. Okay, that wasn't how they made headlines.
Starting point is 00:03:53 But anyway, I was really worried those guys were going to end up in the rotation. Thankfully, it does not look like they are. Brandon Woodruff, Brent Souter both make Brewers rotation. I'm more excited about Woodruff, but either of them could be a back-end to the rotation-type option, and Woodruff could work his way up to more. Okay, Brandon Woodruff. Very nice. Milwaukee rotation and Souter as well. Chris Towers, the most important thing that happened over the weekend,
Starting point is 00:04:18 people might not know about what about what are talking about. Cover fantasy baseball. What is it, Chris? Greg Bird probably will not be batting third for the Yankees all in opening day. Shocking. Well, no more today. He has that foot, despite having surgery last year, we know it ruined the start of the season for him. We think that's why he was bad pretty much all year.
Starting point is 00:04:37 It's back. Until he got back. He was bad until he got back. Right, that's what I said. He was bad most of the year. Yeah, he was bad. And then he had an extended absence. He had, I think, a shoulder injury, his first year up.
Starting point is 00:04:51 So, you know, it's, this sucks. I drafted two players in our, the untimed draft that I keep mentioning. I drafted two players on Saturday. The only two picks I made all weekend, went very slowly over the weekend. One was Greg Bird, and the other was Danny Duffy. So it was a terrific weekend for me. No, Danny Duffy is fine. He says he's completely in totally.
Starting point is 00:05:11 That's what he says. He's going to be pitching on opening day. Okay, well, that is good. That was a bit of a sigh of relief. But after returning from injury, Greg Byrd in 29 games hit 253 with eight home runs, nine walks, 20Ks, 575 slugging. So we're optimistic. You know, I was a guy I loved, but now it's – look, we'll know more tomorrow. I guess we can continue this conversation.
Starting point is 00:05:31 But if you were drafting right now, when would you draft Greg Berg? Lay round flyer. Yeah, I'm not drafting them in a standard points league draft. Yeah. Yeah, I think I still – You stash him on your DL, right? Whatever. Big deal.
Starting point is 00:05:43 It's not like he's a proven commodity. This isn't like... It's proven. He's proven that he can't stay healthy. He has proven that. It is annoying. Okay. And what was the most important thing that...
Starting point is 00:05:55 Oh, I saw Game Night. It was funny. That looks good. It was good. There's a lot of people I like in it. Worth seeing. It was Winston. Winston's in it.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Winston's in it. Yeah. Yeah. Good to see that guy, too. I want to see that movie. Yeah. The other thing I saw... What's his real name?
Starting point is 00:06:13 Lamorne Morris. Okay. I knew Chris would know that. The other thing I saw that Scott would love would be the lead singer of Panic at the disco singing the Ducktails theme song on Jimmy Fallon. It was awesome. Scott Google it.
Starting point is 00:06:28 The Ducktails theme song is awesome. Yeah, that is great. Okay, so baseball, baseball stuff. So if you look on NFBC, that their average draft position, as Chris pointed out to me, A couple weeks ago, you can do a date range. So from over the weekend, here is where the injured players went.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I did not include Greg Byrd because, you know, from Friday and on, the injury happened on Saturday. Or it was reported on Saturday. So I didn't include him. But Bumgarner, who's out about two months with a broken finger, went 70, is going 79th overall in between Dallas, Keiko and Luis Castillo. Daniel Murphy, 113th overall. That's around 10 in a 12-team league. Justin Turner, a few rounds later, 151st overall.
Starting point is 00:07:11 That is, I believe, round 13 in a 12-team-league. And Jeff Samarja, who might only miss a few weeks, 190th overall now. So what do you think, Bumgarner, 79th, Daniel Murphy 113th, Justin Turner, 151. Jeff Samarja, 190th overall. I was in a draft over the weekend, and there were a couple of people that didn't show up for the draft, and so they were auto-drafted, and one of them took Madison Bumgarner far earlier than he should have. And I think that is influencing Madison Bumgarner's ADP.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I would not take him 79th overall. Yeah, we haven't podcasted since the Bumgarner injury, right? Correct. That's still new to the people who only get their fantasy baseball information from this podcast. I think that's probably too early for Madison Bumgarner. I wrote the immediate reaction on Friday night after the news came out. And my initial reaction was to put him in the Alex Wood-rich Hill range. So around 30th at starting pitcher.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah, that's where I have him. And because I think that's a good mixture of the upside of Madison and Bumgarner with the known downside of the fact that he's probably going to miss at least two months, maybe more. I was looking, Ryan Vogel's song, I think missed 11 weeks with a, I think it was the same bone that he broke for the Giants. So, you know, there's a chance that this is, you know, he's not back until June. He's supposed to get the pins out after four to six.
Starting point is 00:08:37 six weeks and then obviously have to build himself back up to pitch again. I would just point out with the vocal song comparison, like Vogel Song isn't Bum Garner for a couple reasons. One, the Giants probably weren't like they could afford to be more careful with vocal song than they could Bum Garner. They're going to want him back. And two, Bumgarner's mentality himself. Like he has just proven to be the most elastic of pitchers. But that's not necessarily a good thing. well he could come back too soon and not be good at the beginning right it's not a shoulder has he ever come back it's not a shoulder injury it's not an elbow injury has he ever come back too soon before like i just i don't know i feel like we're dealing with this is about the point i would take him i think where was it 79th overall yeah and i think that's true for all of these players i would probably take justin turner a little earlier than 151st um but if i don't have to obviously i won't you know so uh Bumgarner or Castillo. He's going just ahead of Luis Castillo.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I would take Castillo. Oh, I would definitely take Castillo. And that's what, like the thing about Baumgarner, I might take him there in a 10 team head-to-head categories league. That's fine. Because he could be there at the most important part of the season. Exactly. But the reason I'm taking him there is because I don't feel like the other options have as much upside.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Luis Castillo has worlds and worlds of upside, and he's going to be ready on opening day. So, like, Castillo is an easy. one for me. The guys that I struggle with are guys like Kyle Hendricks. Okay. We actually have Heath and I, Bumgarner, in the exact same spot, 34th. You know, not all the players ahead, and all the players behind are exactly the same,
Starting point is 00:10:22 of course, but we both do have Luis Castillo ahead. Okay. Fair enough. I said it, fair enough. Jeff Samarge, 190th overall. That's a pretty good value. Yeah, so... Oh, that's great value. Yeah, he's going to be re-evaluated in three to four weeks, right?
Starting point is 00:10:39 Yeah. So he might only miss four weeks of the season. He might start throwing in three weeks or two weeks. Okay. And again, Daniel Murphy 113th overall. Justin Turner, 151st overall. I think they're both going too late. Yeah, or fine, whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But it's not early. That's the word I was looking for. I had to go with elastic. I was trying to think of the right word with bumgarner. You have to be really elastic as a pitcher to throw as hard as these guys. I thought elastic would get the message across. You know, it springs back, right? Snaps back.
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Starting point is 00:12:45 By the way, today we're going to do ADP review, risers and followers from over the weekend. With Tyler Glass now being named to the Pirates Bullpen, what are the chances he gets RP eligibility and becomes the best spark this year? P.S., is it 10 appearances in the bullpen to be RP eligible? It is 10 appearances, right, Scott? It is 10 appearances, yes. I would hope that he does not stay in the bullpen long enough to get RP eligible, but if he does, yeah, I guess there's a chance that he becomes a spark.
Starting point is 00:13:17 The problem is, given the way a starter who they presumably still want to have available as a starter at some point will likely be used in the bullpen, it's going to take them a while to get 10 appearances. I think it might take to the end of May. Yeah, to get 10 appearances. And at that point, then you're looking at several other guys that were pretty excited about as possible sparks that could be in the rotation at the same time. So, yeah, I'm not quite as excited about the possibility. I would prefer that he does not become a spark and become a starting pitcher again soon. Well, is Tyler Glass now still worth drafting?
Starting point is 00:13:54 We were touting him as a really good late-round pick. He didn't make the rotation out of spring training. Doesn't mean he won't get in there. I mean, he would probably be among my top 15. dashes. It would be hard to justify, I think, in a head-to-head league because the rosters are so small and, you know, the waiver-wire options are so attractive. But you get into a league where close to 300 players are rostered. Yeah, I mean, first of all, I think he could be really effective out of the bullpen. He could become this Josh Hater type reliever. And then obviously
Starting point is 00:14:27 there's a chance down the line that that's what gets it to click finally for him. He moves into the rotation and he's dominant. And I'm still very encouraged by the spring training. I know the ERA is not pretty, but like half of the runs came in one appearance. He had 25 strikeouts, five walks, and 74 batters faced. If he has average control, I think he's a star. Something, and I know we get off on these tangents, but this was really interesting to be about Glass Now, something I read over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:14:54 He's always had a lot of natural cut on his 98 mile per hour fastball, and he had been trying to eliminate that cut for the sake of throwing strikes better. You get 98 miles per hour moving side to side like this one is capable of. That's going to be unhittable. That's pretty good. Because Ray Sear just, I didn't quite finish the point, but Ray Sears just talked them into not getting rid of the cut anymore. Stop trying to eliminate that. All right, guys, we got a lot of news to get to before we talk about ADP, hoping to have some fun segments later in the show.
Starting point is 00:15:30 If not, we'll save them for tomorrow. I have a Jonah Carey interview lined up for Wednesday's show. So look forward to that. Jonah talked to David Ortiz on his podcast last week. So download the Jonah Carey podcast. It is outstanding. All right, news and notes. So we talked about Bird.
Starting point is 00:15:48 We talked about Duffy. We talked about Samarja and Bumgarner. How about Scott Kingery? We've talked about him a lot in recent weeks. Get into it. Yes, six-year deal. Now, if you don't play in Fab leagues, what is that? I mean free agent acquisition budget.
Starting point is 00:16:04 And that means you are given a budget. And anytime you want to pick up a player, you have to use unless you make a $0 bid. But you have to bid on players every night or however often you want to run it. And whoever has the highest bid on the player is rewarded. I put in a $4 bid on Scott Kingery knowing I wasn't going to get Scott Kingery in our Roto League. Scott White now has Scott Kingery for $17.17 of his budget. All right. Interesting, Scott.
Starting point is 00:16:29 So, yeah, what do you expect? him a six-year deal. Did that motivate you? Did that tell you that they want Kingery up sooner rather than later? And we need to own him in... Oh, that was the reason why they did it. They didn't want to have to do what the Braids are doing with the Coonia, send him down for a couple weeks just for the sake of earning an extra year team control. They had to. Just... They had no choice. Well, yeah. We don't, don't go down this path. Let's talk about Scott Kingery. Thank you. Um, yeah. So they offer him a long-term deal beyond even, what the arbitration years would be,
Starting point is 00:17:02 and they don't have to worry about that service time game anymore. So he's going to be up. He's going to be playing six different positions. He's going to have kind of the Marwin-Gonzalez role, except for the Phillies. They're going to mix him in as often as they can. I would guess it's like five games a week. He plays between those six positions,
Starting point is 00:17:20 and could be really good. It's been one of the most buzzed-about players this spring among the scouting community and among journalists, And just 2020 guy in the minors last year, obviously, a breakout season there. People seem really excited about him. And obviously, this is a huge vote of confidence from the Phillies. This is only the second time any player signed to deal like this before even debuting. And it didn't work out great last time.
Starting point is 00:17:47 It didn't. But to be fair, the Astros tried George Springer before settling for doing it with John Liffin Singleton. And George Springer turned it down. That's right. Jonathan Singleton. That's who it was. Yeah. Yeah. I think Heath and I are both less excited about Kingery than Scott is.
Starting point is 00:18:06 So we got a question yesterday on Twitter asking whether we'd rather have Scott Kingery or Yuan Mankata. I would hope all of us believe it's Yon Mankata because that is the correct answer. I hedged. I have him right. I ended up moving Scott Kingery right behind Mokata. I respect your opinion. I think it's crazy. Like Yohan Makata, I think we've overstated the extent to which Yon Mankata's strong. in the majors last year. Like, he was a major league average player as a hitter. Like, the batting average was bad for fantasy,
Starting point is 00:18:36 but he had an average OPS for a major league hitter in the majors. Scott Kingery is entering his fourth professional season. He's had one half-season stretch with an OPS over 800. At AA Redding, which is one of the more favorable offensive environments in the minors. My thing with Kingery is, and it's probably a little bit of a personal flaw in just how much I like, Cesar Hernandez, Mike El Franco, and there are other options. They already had an outfield rotation with too many guys in the outfield.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I think he probably will play four or five days a week early on. You don't think he's going to be good enough to stick with that? I don't know that he's going to be good enough. I know in a Roto League he might steal enough bases to where he gives you fantasy value regardless. It could be Bradley Zimmer. I mean, that's the thing. He looks like a base dealer, which everybody needs. He's going to be quadruple eligible sooner than,
Starting point is 00:19:30 later with one of those positions being shortstop. I don't know if it's sooner rather than later. I think it will depend on who is struggling the most. He could end up playing third base three times a week and second base once a week. In a standard points league, I think there is a very good chance you drop Scott Kingery before he's startable. Yeah, I didn't add him in any points leagues. I would definitely draft him. I don't know that I would.
Starting point is 00:19:55 He's right on the cusp of being drafted, and in a roto, I have him right around 200. And I know that sounded weird. Like, my point was having already, like, I feel like my head-to-head options, you know, are too good for me to drop Kingery. But I suspect if we were drafting over again today, that wouldn't be the case. We'll see tonight. We'll see tonight when we do the podcast league. When you say head-to-head, it means points. But, yeah, Scott picked up, Scott picked him up in a league.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Oh, and you picked up Dominic Leone. You've already used $27 Fab dollars, Scott. Wow. aggressive. Zero dollar bids and it's daily. It waivers processes daily rather than weekly. So I don't, yeah, I don't see a lot of reason to stash money when there's guys you want.
Starting point is 00:20:39 You move Kingery ahead of Seizor Hernandez. Yes. Well ahead. Yeah, I think he's going to him more home runs. I think he's going to steal more bases. Where are you guys drafting Bradley Zimmer? I'm the high guy on him. Comparable prospect pedigree.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Actually, technically last time he was ranked, he was a higher ranked prospect than Scott Kingery is currently. Similar playing time concerns or beliefs. Like he's not going to play every single day. Here's the thing. I think it's a thing. If he hits, I think he will. Scott Kingery looks like a very exciting player with a lot of rare skills in today's
Starting point is 00:21:18 economy who people are very excited about. To get that player with that upside, with those specialized. skills. I feel like this is probably where you're going to have to draft them. And it's fine if you don't want them. You rank them lower and just expect not to get him. That's fine. I want to take a shot on Scott Kingery. So that's why I'm ranking how I do. Maybe it won't work out, but I don't think I lose much if it doesn't work out. I'm going to defend Bradley's Zimmer just a little bit for a second because he was more of a 40 steel guy in the minor leagues, whereas Kingery is a what, 25, 20, 30 steel guy? He still 34 last year. He still 34 last year. Before that, he'd never
Starting point is 00:21:58 still on it. Last year was the breakout and it was mostly a double A. All right. We got to move on. He had like a 780 OPS. We got to move on. Adam Wainwright's on the D.L. with a hamstring injury. Captain Jack Flaherty will begin the season in the St. Louis rotation. I'm excited about Jack Flaherty. Apparently, you took him earlier than I thought in the 14th team league. I took him right after Scott Kingery. If we're going to overreact to week in news. No, it's not even close because we don't know that Flaherty's long for the rotation.
Starting point is 00:22:24 We don't know that Scott King is going to play more than three or four times a day a week. But how bad was Flaherty last year? I mean, it was very... He wasn't great. He had a bad ERA. Very brief. But he's a good prospect who scouts have said has added velocity over the last couple of years, including this season and spring training. You took him ahead of Stephen Matt.
Starting point is 00:22:46 You took him ahead of Stephen Matt. I think you took him ahead of Matt Harvey? Has Harvey still on the board? Those guys haven't been great in the spring either. Yeah, but they have jobs. Took him ahead of Sean Binaia. They've had very good strengths. Matt has had like three good starts.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I think it was four. But Jack Flaherty has had, the other thing is his slider, based on what he did last year, even with the bad overall results, I think he had a 29% swinging strike rate with his slider. I think there's a lot of upside. There's definitely a lot of upside for Flaherty. He introduced a two-seamer to his arsenal this spring, and his strikeouts just took off. He made 25 starts last year in the minor leagues and had a two. 180 RA and struck out of batter printing. So there's plenty of reason for it.
Starting point is 00:23:31 It may be a short-term stay, but he's replacing Adam Wainwright, you know? And if not Adam Wainwright, there's Michael Wachowke who can't stay healthy, and they've been flirting with moving him to the bullpen for a few years. And there's, oh, who's the other bum in their rotation? They got another bum in their rotation. I can't think of them right now. How are we not thinking about that?
Starting point is 00:23:52 Oh, Miles Michael. Potential bum, I should say. He could be good, but he could be bad. They're not so invested in him that they can't move him to the rotation. Right, exactly. Okay, here we go. Arizona sent Yasmani Tomas to the miners. Chris Sale got hit by a comebacker expects to be ready for opening day.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Brian Johnson is going to start the season in the Red Sox rotation as Drew Pomerant, Eduardo Rodriguez, are both on the DL and Stephen Wright. Is he suspended? Does anybody have interest in Brian Johnson? Not outside of AL only. Okay. Jake Arietta will make his first start on April 8th. Miguel Sinole will not be suspended.
Starting point is 00:24:28 That is actually enormous news. Should have probably put that earlier in the show. I apologize, but can you justify Miguel Sino, a top 100 pick on Sano now? Just barely. Miguel Sino has been on my breakouts column. He's been on my bust column. Now I've removed him from the bus column, so I've got made another. You're planned your flag.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Another turn on Miguel Sino. No matter what, I can share a link in June saying I was right about Miguel Sineau. He's been out of your bus column, man. Not just the suspension news either. I was worried he showed up to spring training Not in very good shape and he's really had a hard time Being healthy But he has just crushed the baseball in spring training
Starting point is 00:25:05 And not striking out much That's the bigger thing for me Yeah, all right Sineau is a riser and will not be facing a suspension Louis Brinson will be on Miami's opening day roster Could lead off To Nelson Lemette is out until May With elbow inflammation
Starting point is 00:25:19 Yeah Paul Goldschmidt got hit by a pitch in the helmet Thankfully he is fine Robbie Ray had no walks and 12 strikeouts against minor league players, but that's Robbie Ray. Yuleiguriel may not need a DL stint. He is suspended for the first five games of the season, but that's good news.
Starting point is 00:25:36 He's recovering quickly. He hurt his hand. Chris hates him. He does, yes. David Dahl was sent to AAA. When would you guess David Dahl is up? I would guess David Dahl is up within the first two months, and I'll even say within the first six weeks.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Ryan McMahon or David Dahl first. Also, they're both among those top 15 players I would be stashing with Tyler Glass now. I would stash I mean, there's more chances for Dahl to break in as an outfielder than, well, you know what, Ryan McMahon can play anywhere but shortstop on the end fields.
Starting point is 00:26:11 But I'll still say Dahl. So McMahon's got sent to AAA too? Not yet. Oh, okay. He is still not been sent to AAA yet. My thing with David Dahl is just how many players have to fail for him to get a chance? Is it just one?
Starting point is 00:26:24 Because if it's just one, then I agree. Well, it depends if McMahon or Dolls up first. One or two. Yeah, because if it's just like Carlos Gomez getting hurt or Carlos Gomez not hitting again. Carlos Gonzalez. God, you love Carlos Gomez. Carlos Gomez on the brain.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Or, like, but if Carlos Gonzalez fails and Rima Tapaea slides in it right field. Oh, I mean, Tapia can't be ahead of Dahl in the pecking order, especially the way Dahl's closed out spring training. He's been awesome. He's in the majors, though. Tapia hasn't been sit down yet either, right? Yeah, but he's not like...
Starting point is 00:26:56 I'm just, I'm reading a Rocky's blog, talking about how they are considering giving Parra more time to recover from his injury. And Tapia could be an option to fill his role. Okay. I mean, maybe. That's just to have a lot of guys. My perception of Tapia is he has a career as a fourth outfielder. I don't think he is the upside.
Starting point is 00:27:16 That's the top 100. That's the top of his upside. All right, let's go. Let's go. I think that's the top of his upside. Moving on. Baltimore outfielder, Austin Hayes, was sent to, W.A. Boston signed Christian Vasquez to a three-year 13.5 million dollar deal.
Starting point is 00:27:30 But with Austin Hayes, Scott, he's also going to be a guy your stashing? He's also among the 15s to stash, yes. All right. Jason Vargas for the Mets expected to start the year on the DL, but he might only miss one start. And then as far as Greg Byrd's injury goes... More on Greg Bird, please. That's what we really need is, can we just do a little more on Greg Burke? Could this get Andahar up?
Starting point is 00:27:55 Because there are some talk about Neil Walker, maybe playing some first base. Yeah, you could slide Neil Walker to first. Andhar, I guess, is ahead of Glaber Torres in the pecking order right now. Drury's got a little bit of an elbow thing going on. Yeah, that is also true. Is Andahar worth drafting, do you think, in a deep league? I don't think so just because you look at the minor league numbers and he doesn't have standout power ability that he's shown in games.
Starting point is 00:28:22 He doesn't steal a lot of bases. And so he's one of those guys who, like, you look at him and he's a good prospect, but it's hard to see where exactly he becomes a standout fantasy player to the point where it's worth stashing if he doesn't have a job. And do we have any closer news? I mean, we do. Dominic Leone is going to start the years the Cardinals closure, as Scott mentioned earlier. Brad Brock is going to split save chances with Darren O'Day and Michael Givens,
Starting point is 00:28:48 according to the Baltimore's son. And this is what Mike Sosha said about the ninth inning. We have a number of guys we think are going to be able to pitch in the ninth inning if we have a lead. But let's wait and see how the game plays out. So my first question, is Dominic Leon now ahead of Brad Brock and anyone in the Angels bullpen? Yes. For me, yes. I hesitate because, and one you missed was the White Sox.
Starting point is 00:29:17 the White Sox are saying they're going to go with a split closer two between Nate Jones and Joaquin Soria. And we've not named anyone in Arizona still, right? Right. My feeling is it's not going to be a split role for long. It never is. It's going to get a comfort level with one of these guys and keep going back to them. And my prediction is it's going to be Brockford, the Orioles.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I'm actually kind of thinking it's going to be Nate Jones for the White Sox, but I say that with less confidence. So it's between, among all the relievers we were just talking about, it's between Leon and Brock for me, who I'd take first. That's the thing. It's never actually a split for that long. It's a week, and then one guy blows a save, and then the other guy gets it. In our league that has no clock that Adam keeps referencing,
Starting point is 00:30:02 I still have one closer spot left, and a lot of those guys are available, and I think my take on all those situations is I'm probably just going to take the one that gets strapped at last. Okay, because I am going to take Dominic Leon and three picks if he's still available. I believe you are picking right before or right after me? Before you. So you're going to eliminate him. Yeah, well, I probably will eliminate anyone that's taken in the next couple of rounds. I was very surprised by the Baltimore thing, though.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I just figured Brad Brock would get in. And he's the favorite for us, right? I mean, we just said it. We think Brock will be the guy. Yes. Yeah. I think Seek will be the way I get to the game. Opening day is a few days away.
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Starting point is 00:31:27 That's promo code fantasy on Seatgeek. You can also go to Seatgeek.com. And without any further ado, here is your ADP. Okay, risers and followers based on CBSSports.com ADP. Some of it is a little puzzling. I'm thinking it must be a projection thing, but you'll have to tell me. Like this one.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Gio Gonzalez is up 18 spots in ADP, 78th overall in points, 136th overall in Roto. Gio is the 24th starting pitcher off the board in Points League 39th in Roto. So I'm thinking that might be just a sports line, which does our projections, maybe really likes Gio Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Is that how you guys are interpreting this? I seem to recall seeing a sports line article, labeling him a sleeper, yes. So that would make sense that that that's what's driving that ADP. Yeah. Because there are different ways if you draft on CBS Sports. By the way, you want to play CBS.com slash FBT, sign up for a league. If you draft on CBS Sports, you can sort the rankings by Scott's rankings, Heath's rankings,
Starting point is 00:32:32 or it's going to say projections, and that would be the sports line projections. So it's good to get three different perspectives there, but Geo might just be higher in the projections. All right, so more importantly, Starling Marte. He is now up 16 spots, but still 79th in points, Starling Marte. 48th overall in Roto. This is the guy that Heath has in his top 20 in Roto, by the way. And he is the number 18 outfielder off the board in points leagues, number 14 in Roto. Yeah, Heath, you want to – Starling Marte, 70th in points, 48th in Roto.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yeah, I think you just have to look at what Sarlene Marte has done when he was healthy. and when he wasn't suspended, and it's not hard to see that, like, 48th is, I feel like, closer to his floor than a ceiling. He is a guy that could steal 40 bases. He could hit close to 300. He's got not really going to give you much in terms of pop, but he's in the middle of an order that doesn't look quite as bad as it did right after all. They traded away all their talent. Yeah. And it's interesting with Marte, because he's going 46 over the weekend in NFBC drafts, and that's Rodo.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I just don't get it. I mean, that does feel very low. It is low. Yeah. It's too low. Yeah. I like it. But if you think you could get him in the fourth round.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I think people are probably knocking him for the steroid suspension and the fact that he wasn't that good last year. But like, do we really need to do this again after D. Gordon last year? Well, and even with him not being very good last year, if you just, like, he played 77 games. If you just double that, he steals 42 bases. He's a 275 hitter. And he's worth that price. Right. And scores 96 runs.
Starting point is 00:34:11 All right, Marte is a riser, but not rising high enough. And in points leagues, 2015 was his only full season, Marte. And in that season, he was the 15th best outbuilder in points, 10th, and Roto. So while his plate discipline isn't great, he doesn't walk, he's not as good in points leagues. He's still a value at 79th overall, in my opinion. Absolutely. Yeah, value in both. I'd probably move him up.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I'd probably move him up about 10, 15 spots in both. Okay. Trevor Bauer is up 21 spots. He is now the 28th starting pitcher off the board in points leagues. He's 85th overall. And when I say these guys are rising, I am talking about their points league's value. But I will give you both points in Roto. Bauer is going 85th and points 126.
Starting point is 00:34:52 So that's round 11 in Roto. Last 12 appearances, he had a 257 ERA, he had a ton of strikeouts. Pitch great. But 85th overall, is that too high for Bauer? Oh, yeah. Yes. Yeah, I mean, it's higher than I have them. But I've started to come around and see why some people are so excited about Bauer.
Starting point is 00:35:17 He's just, he's been striking out everybody inside the spring. The strikeout rate was through the roof last year, too. He gave up a lot of hits along with it, so the whip was high. But he was clearly a different pitcher after. And he worked on, I think, developing a slider this offseason. Well, worked on both a change-up and a slider. I think he's sticking with the slider. and we'll see if that that can make him into the guy that he's always seemed like he could be
Starting point is 00:35:45 and the guy that he looked like in the second half last season. I just don't know that I see really much of a difference between him and Mike Clevenger. Oh, yeah, no, I mean, Clevenger was better than Bauer last year. So I'm with you on that point. I think it's a question of whether you think Trevor Bauer can take another step. And I think a lot of people do, Trevor Bauer is a really, he's had a lot of hype in his career. he hasn't lived up to it for the most part, but the second half last season,
Starting point is 00:36:10 he was good in the postseason too, right? Yep. I think that's probably, it's just projecting forward. I don't necessarily buy it, especially not at that price. But at his consensus ADP, which is 132,
Starting point is 00:36:21 yeah, I think he's a fine value there. Yeah, me too. Although I haven't drafted him. Bauer we're talking about still? Trevor Bauer. Okay, yeah. So with that 2507 ERA for Bauer in his last 12 appearances,
Starting point is 00:36:32 he had a 324 Babbitt. That's pretty interesting. It's not like he was getting lucky or anything. Okay, Didi Grigorious is up 10 spots. He is now 90th overall in points. He is 105th overall in Roto. That seems pretty reasonable where we've seen Didi go. But in points leagues on our site, he is going ahead of Elvis Andrews.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And I'll also point out that over the weekend, Didi Gagorius on NFBC, 124th. So there is a bit of a range there. But I know, Scott, you hate that. You still think even though Andrews is a speed guy, he's still better than Didi in points, you think? Yeah, I mean, he was by far last year. I mean, he was better than, you know, Corey Seeger and points last year. But, you know, obviously there's, does he hit 20 homers again? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Yeah, I don't know if he does. I think in this environment, he made, like, he started elevating the ball more last year. And those two combined led to him showing power like we've never seen before. I don't, you know, if the baseball is exactly the same as last year and he continues with that approach, I don't see why he couldn't. I'm putting him more around 1516. I do want to point out the baseball does appear to be exactly the same. The rate of home runs per contact, that's not the right way to say that. But the home run rate has continued to increase this spring.
Starting point is 00:37:53 There's no reason to believe that the baseballs have changed. I know we've had some discussions about that this offseason. All available evidence points to the baseballs being the same. So don't expect power to go down. Yeah, and I thought they would change. I'm off that now. I drafted it as if they wouldn't. Originally, I thought they would, but since we hadn't heard anything about it, and I figured we would,
Starting point is 00:38:16 I just figured, all right, I guess they didn't change it. They don't care. They're never going to announce it. Well, I thought the players. Yeah, they're never going to say, we're going to change the baseballs because they never said the baseball change. I thought the players. It has always been. I thought the players were going to say something.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I thought that we would get something. I haven't heard of peep about it. So I guess I drafted based on that out of year. They'll blame it on that at some point. They should. All right, Matt Carpenter is up. Matt Carpenter is up 16 spots in points leagues, but still 113th overall.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Are you guys willing to take him earlier than that in points leagues? Oh, definitely. That points league is, that points league ADP is outrageous for a guy who walks 90 times a year, 80 times a year. And then, you know, you add the fact he should be rising because he's healthy again. There's the hope of him playing multiple. Yeah, it could be triple eligible pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:39:05 There's that approach change he's talked about, which you could view as positively or negatively, but I would prefer to see, in a points league especially, the 2013 version of Carpenter, which it sounds like he's trying to get back to. And he's had been hitting well since he returned to the lineup. So, yeah, all reasons to be more enthusiastic about Carpenter than two weeks ago. Now, if you have Carpenter in a Categories League, not his best format, he is the 15th first basement off the board, 136 overall. What do you think about that?
Starting point is 00:39:37 I think that's fine. I think he has a ton of upside there still. Like, there's still top 40 player potential. Yeah, and if he's second base eligible, then he needs to go way ahead of 136. Okay, Rick Porcelo is up 14 spots. Cole Hamels is up 35 spots. They're both being taken in the top 130 picks and points around 190th overall.
Starting point is 00:40:00 And Patrick Corbin and Julio Tehran are also right. Rizing. Tehran's up 42 spots. I didn't really understand why. I don't worry about him. Oh, interesting. Porcelo, Hamels,
Starting point is 00:40:14 Corbyn, and Tehran, they're all risers right now. And they're all available, you know, after round 10. Like, Porcelo and Hamels are like round 10 in points. That's really early. Yeah. Pitcher prices in non-expert head-to-head points leagues
Starting point is 00:40:31 seem to be outrageous. 42 of the top 128 players, I guess, because that's where Cole Hamils is going, are starting pitchers and head-to-head points leagues. I think that's too much. But that's the way it's going. So I think you could pivot away in a standard points league and load up on hitters. If that's the price you have to pay for Cole Hamels and Julio Taran and Rick Porcelo, then I'd rather just take flyers later in the drafts.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And I think part of it is, I mean, we don't know how many. of how many auto picks are happening to influence this ADP, I would assume, a lot. And starting pitchers tend out score hitters in our standard head-to-head format. Now, it's kind of like a quarterback thing in fantasy football, where it's done all the way down. So it's not really an advantage over the position players. It's just you're kind of having to interpret each position on its own. But that's probably influencing all those starting pitchers being higher. And since their projections base, all the more reliable innings pitchers being higher.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Keith, let me ask you. Porcelo, Hamel's, Corbin, Tehran. Are you higher on them? Are they risers for you? Forget about where you're drafting them, but just in general, should they be risers? I think Hamill should be a riser simply because he's given us some reason to have a little bit of faith moving forward. Tehran, the same thing. Like, Tehran, I wasn't really all that interested in drafting just as recently as a month ago.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And now he snuck up into the end of the draft range for me. I don't really, like Rick Porcelo, I was probably. higher on than most a month ago, which is weird because I hated Rick Porcelo a year and a half ago, but he hasn't done anything that's made me change where he's at. Okay. Adam Eaton is still going about 150th overall, but he is a riser, and that is just criminally low in points leagues. He's the 35th outfielder off the board in points, 36th in Roto. And I kept saying Adam Eaton has top 20 upside, and honestly, it's not even a bold call.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Now that I look back at where he finished in 2015 and 16, he was 17th in points in 2015. and Adam Eaton was 14th in points in 2016. In Roto, he was 18th in 2015, 27th in 2016. So, yeah, it's not even a bold call to say his top 20 upside. He's done at each of his last two healthy seasons, and now he's on a better team batting leadoff. Yeah, there's not that much difference between him and Christian Yalich in terms of skill set.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Like, maybe a few more home runs for Christian Yalich, but it's... I think there's more upside for Yelich. Based on what they've shown so far. far in their careers, though. They have been very similar. Yes. Yeah, and they go so far apart. Okay, how about fallers? How about ADP fallers here? Now, I just want to point this out. Zach Granky is falling four spots. Not a big drop,
Starting point is 00:43:16 but he is now the 13th starting pitcher off the board in points, 11th in Roto. And he's going to pitch first turn through the rotation. So is this an overreaction? Does that actually make Granky a good value? Oh, absolutely. This is a situation where if Grinky, because I still have Grinky as a top 10 starting pitcher in points. And this is a situation now where I can just wait until some of these guys that I don't like as much go, whether this is a league where pitchers go really early in the second and third round or where they fall a little bit in the third and the fourth.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I know I don't have to take Grinky quite as early. Yeah. Garrett Cole is down six spots. He's now SP 18. Why? It doesn't make any sense. I am getting more and more excited about Garrett Cole and people are dropping him. It's not a huge drop.
Starting point is 00:43:58 It's not six spots in pitcher ADP. It's just six overall spots. Oh, yeah, that's not much. It could just be a case of others leapfrogging them. But I'm with Heath that there's been no reason to be. But what we've seen from Coldest Spring. He's been a really good spring, right? I mean, he hasn't had, like, Lance McCullors level spring,
Starting point is 00:44:15 but yeah, he's been, the strikeouts are more than one per inning, and he sees he's looked pretty good. Spoiler alert. Lance McCullors is being drafted 124th overall in the NFBC drafts over the weekend. I couldn't believe that. that felt very late to me after Shohei Otani. Okay, but more CBS followers. Carlos Santana is down six spots.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Again, not big, but in a points league, 122nd overall, this guy usually finishes about eighth in points at first base. And 164th overall in Roto. I know that Carlos Santana is not great in Roto, but still, that's really good. Yeah. If I wrote in the players I keep drafting column, 16 players I keep drafting. That was one that came out at the end of last week.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And I wrote in it, if I don't draft Carlos Santana in a points league, I've done something wrong. Because, I mean, I'm willing to reach for him by a couple rounds versus that ADP to make sure I get him. Because I think he's like four or five rounds better than that ADP in that format. I do think it makes it interesting when you're in like the second round, and you're looking at one of those elite first baseman versus maybe like a Jose Ramirez or somebody like that, knowing that Matt Carpenter or Carlos Santana is going to be there in the eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh round makes it more tempting to take Ramirez. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And we're probably not talking enough about the fact that he's moving into a really good park that boosts power. And, you know, we saw his power decrease last year. Wouldn't surprise me if he got back to the 2016 levels where he hit 30 plus homers. One thing, though, I want to add about Santana. I've owned him two or three years in a row, I think, in points. he gets off to slow starts. Now, we said the same thing about Joey Vado last year,
Starting point is 00:46:04 and that didn't happen, but he does tend to, like, I'm looking right now, his first half OPS is 781 in his career. His second half OPS is 845. But here's the thing about a player like Carlos Santana in a points league, even when he's not hitting well,
Starting point is 00:46:20 like some players when they're not hitting well, they're just doing nothing for you. He's going to walk still. Like, it's not going to be, there's never a point where I, owned Carlos Santana in that format and thought, I got to bench this guy. He's killing me.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Also, the average temperature in Philadelphia is 10 degrees warmer than in Cleveland, so he may warm up a little earlier this year. Scott, we kind of yell, I don't know if you remember. We kind of yelled at each other over that very topic last year. How could anyone forget? Was it the two of us fighting? I thought it was Heath. I think it was me and Heath versus you.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Oh, when you guys team up on me, that's when I get feisty. Yeah, well, at that time, I believe Carlos Santana was the number 15 first basement in points. leagues. Yeah. And we were saying, like, that's just not good enough. And you were disagreeing. So I wouldn't quite say I'm never thinking about benching him.
Starting point is 00:47:07 But I won't rehash this. 15th, like. No, no, no, no. That's not good, Scott. All right. Hey, listen, everybody, I had a great night of television yesterday. I watched the game. I watched billions of season premiere, which was awesome.
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Starting point is 00:48:11 All right, guys, let's do NFBC ADP quickly, and I completely neglected our emailers on our last show, so I do want to sort of speed it up a little bit. But just to tell you what happened over the weekend in the NFBC drafts, Trey Turner and Noan Aranato, they're basically tied for third. Turner slightly ahead. So it's Trout, Altuve, Turner, Aeronado, and then Clayton Kershaw is fifth, which is interesting. Gary Sanchez is 19th.
Starting point is 00:48:36 We usually don't see him go that early in our drafts. I don't know that we're willing to take him 19th, but that's, that happened. Alex Bregman, 33rd guys, just ahead of Josh Donaldson. So people are very high on him. I don't feel like you guys are willing to pull the trigger on Breggman at 33rd overall. No, I'm not. But I, there are definitely.
Starting point is 00:48:57 people who are. I think the word we're looking for is helium. Isn't that the word we're using this year for guys whose value is getting a little bit inflated? He was talked about a lot more early in draft season. He was a really hot topic and then it just kind of died away the last couple of weeks. He hasn't been a headline
Starting point is 00:49:13 grabber this spring. But, you know, I don't know why he's sour on him based on spring, but yeah, that's earlier than I'd go for him to. Starling Marte 46th overall, we already talked about him. He's going after Yelich and Benintendi. Criminal. Edwin and Carnaccio on 59th overall.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I thought that was kind of late. Criminal, way late. Yeah. But would you take him after or before these two guys? Anthony Rendon and Tommy Fam or Enquinancourt. I would definitely take Rendon the first of them. Tommy Fam, I think we need to get into a little bit because there was kind of an alarming story about him this weekend.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And, you know, kind of got to get into the backstory a little bit here. He's had vision problems throughout his career. It's why he took so long to break through. Finally got diagnosed with, I think, like, a misshapen cornea. I can't remember the official name for it. But got special contact lens for him. You know, it seemed to make a big difference. But now he's struggled this spring.
Starting point is 00:50:19 He's been working on his mechanics. But he kind of offered up, well, maybe it's not my mechanics. Maybe it's my eyesight. and it doesn't sound like the Cardinals are sure either way. It doesn't sound like Tommy Fam himself is sure either way. But if he's, if his eyesight is questionable enough that he's bringing it up, like it just seems like this could really spiral out of control. I'm dropping Tommy Fam in my rankings as Scott talks.
Starting point is 00:50:48 No longer he talks about this the more I'm going to. He's not sure. That's the thing. He's not sure if it's vision. I'm reading the article now. quote, it's frustrating where I am right now. There's a whole lot of problems going on. He's working on mechanical issues as well.
Starting point is 00:51:00 He plans on getting in front of the high speed camera to look at his swing mechanics. Quote, last year I had a bad spring, but I had vision-related issues. We'll see. So he's 19 strikeouts in 17 games. This is a guy who were relying on for batting average. His power numbers from last year were probably a little bit inflated thanks to a really high home run-the-fly ball ratio. He's a huge ground ball rate guy. But a lot of hard contact, and he runs too.
Starting point is 00:51:28 The thing about FAM for me is, like, he's one of, like, fifth round range in a Roto League. You just can't find that skill set at those levels. But he looks risky. He does look risky. Just to swing it back the other way, he played in a minor league game this week, and Homer twice and seven at bats. He got back in the Major League lineup, I think it was Sunday, and had two hits. So, like, it also may be nothing.
Starting point is 00:51:56 It sounds like a lot of just grabbing it explanations because people are sticking microphones in your face. And he point, FAM himself pointed out amid worrying about his mechanics and his eyesight, last spring was the worst I ever had. And yeah, the numbers were even worse than this years. And look what it led to. So I don't know. It's enough, I would say, in a points league, I would now slot him behind.
Starting point is 00:52:22 behind Incarnacion for sure. I'd probably still take fan ahead of Incarnacion and Roto. Tommy Fam or Justin Upton? I would still go fan. I seem to be the only person in this group that ever drafts Justin Upton, so I'd probably go Upton. Because he's going to steal some bases too. Yeah, I'm still going to go fan, but they are in the same round for me now.
Starting point is 00:52:46 All right, Billy Hamilton and NFBC drafts going 77th overall, which I just... There are a lot of people that are worried about his playing time. Yeah, I brought that up. He's such a bad hitter. It's got to be. But he never, he never gets 600 play. Has he ever had 600 played appearances in a season?
Starting point is 00:53:03 And he's been worth this price before. Yeah, 77th, yeah. It doesn't matter. He's going to steal those bases anyway. He's going to come into games late and steal a base. Like, he's, unless he just misses two months, he's going to steal 50 plus bases. He had five, six, plate appearances. He had 633 last year.
Starting point is 00:53:20 He had 611 and 2014. That's relatively low for a leadoff hitter. I just want to correct myself on fan. He went three for seven with one home run in the minor league game. All right. Masiro Tanaka and David Price are both going about 95th over the weekend in NFBC. Both went about 95th overall, Tanaka and Price. I'd much rather have Tanaka.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Tanaka's a good value there. And I think, like, Price is fine there. How about this group? Ian Hap, 105th. Miguel Sonno, 107th. One of these is not like the other. Javier Baez, 108th. How are people still taking it?
Starting point is 00:53:54 I definitely want Kingery more than Baez. Would we be surprised if Scott Kingery has the season, Scott Harvey Baez had last year? Hobby Baez was good last year. That's closer to his ceiling than his fort. Harvey Baez was good last year. Like we need to stop acting like it's crazy that people like Hobby Baez. It might be crazy to draft him in 108th, but like it is.
Starting point is 00:54:14 That's about where he ranked last year in Roto leagues. Well, but on a per week basis, when you're starting someone. That doesn't matter, Roto. Yeah, it does, it does, though. You want more... You're still setting your lineup once a week.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Right, you want more played appearance at much. It does, though. Maybe it's still right there at the end of the season. The numbers are the numbers. I know that. Maybe if we play like you, Chris, and never change our lineup. The numbers are the numbers. No, no, but you know what? No, I'm calling you out
Starting point is 00:54:42 on this because you're the one who's like, I'll just stream a guy and play week to week. You can do better than playing a guy who doesn't play that often. You can do better than his overall season numbers. We're acting like he was Bradley Zimmer and got 300 plate appearances. The guy still got like 550. What did he do for you? He was such a
Starting point is 00:55:00 nothing player. There was never, ever, ever a point where I was like, I need to start Javier Baez right now. Two points for me. Then you didn't start a good player. Javier Baez is being way overdrafted at 108. Also, if Scott Kingery has a Javier Baez season this year, his season was a great success. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:55:24 But, you know, and to be fair, I'm not, when I say I draft Kingery ahead of Baez, it doesn't mean I draft Kingery 107. I would just say, I expect the playing time to be similar for the two. I expect Kingery to steal more bases than Baez. I expect Baez to hit more home runs than Kingery, but I expect Kingery to have better plate discipline than Baez. So he's kind of beating him on two of the three levels I care about most. But plate discipline in a roto league. It matters. It affects batting average.
Starting point is 00:55:54 it affects run scored. If I has it at 273 each of the last two years, I expect him to hit the higher average than Kingery does. I'm going to give Kingery the edge there. Okay. Heath, we have another contestant in Before the People League? We had multiple contestants. I am proud to report that we have not lost all of our female listeners.
Starting point is 00:56:14 We do still have multiple female listeners and multiple great submissions, but I had to choose one, and we're going with Tori Johnson. Tori is short for Victoria. She gave us four different haikus, and three of them were actually good. So I'll just real quickly run through those. Seven syllables. Or could it be eight? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:56:35 50 steals are great. Delano de Shields Jr. Fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire. I lost, but that is funny. I like that. Free agents galore. Seven mound visits no more. Fear the humidor.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Outstanding work by Tori Johnson. You will be getting, and I have had people asking me, like, when is the drafts Wednesday night. I'm going to try to send invites out tonight and set draft order so you can prep. And I would like to congratulate John Peter. I'm just now looking at it. We don't even have a tie. Out of nearly 1,400 people, John Peter stands alone with 88 points in our bracket challenge. And John, I will be reaching out to you, and you will be in the podcast for the People League.
Starting point is 00:57:23 And he still has Villanova as his champion, so it's not like numbers two and three have Virginia and Arizona. So John Peter at least still has a chance to actually win the pool. How many points do you have, Adam? Oh, my gosh. I am embarrassed to even say it. I stopped checking after the second round, personally. I think we should all look it up and see how many points we have. Okay, let's see where we're ranking.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Now, I saw Villanova, so I am going to beat you when Villanova beats Kansas. I have 48 points. I'm in 1,128th place. I have 47, so you got me be there. Yeah, Heath. I am looking mine up as we speak. I have Kansas winning it all. So you still have a chance.
Starting point is 00:58:07 You're in 516th place with 59 points. 59 points. 516th place. Really just dominating. Chris Towers with Virginia. The first one seed to lose to a 16. Way to go. I can't believe that my auto-filled bracket
Starting point is 00:58:23 is doing poorly. Auto-filled. Of course. You are. I haven't watched a second of college basketball. I'm not going to spend time picking. Guess who's going to win my home family, my family and friends pool?
Starting point is 00:58:34 If Villanova wins on Saturday, my wife is going to win. She has watched less college basketball than you have, Chris. You don't need to be an expert. It's hard to watch less than zero. Actually, then she has had more than you. I watch more than you.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I watch more than you. My family bracket comes down to my wife and my 8-year-old, so, and it comes down to the Villanova KU game. Yeah, exactly. All right, let me read some emails here. Kevin in Chicago, huge White Sox fan. Wants to know what you think about Rodon, Gialito, and Kopeck.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Are they worth drafting? When should I draft Rodon, Gialito, and Kopeck? I'm getting pretty excited about Gialito. I moved him up a couple tiers in tiers 3.0. Definitely somebody I'm targeting in that round 15 range now. Kopeck is, I still think, one of the more exciting call-ups, but not a good spring, and I don't think the White Sox have any reason to rush him. So he's not among the ones.
Starting point is 00:59:22 my 15 stashes. And then Rodon's kind of weighs away still, right? He is supposed to be ready to first of June. He is throwing baseballs, which is positive. I absolutely think, like, if he's there in the last couple of rounds, he's worth a DL stash for sure. And Ed wants to know how you guys deal with vetoing trades in your leagues. Don't.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Yep. No vetoes. Disagree. Okay. Rare vetoes. Rare vetoes. Like, we've said it before. If you veto trade, you.
Starting point is 00:59:51 veto trade, you need to be ready to have a discussion about kicking the people who made that trade out of your league. Because you're suggesting they're not acting in good faith, and why would you want those guys around? Or they're just completely incompetent. Yeah, like... A rare veto, I would say, but I'm not going to say no vetoes. Just no vetoes and instead, ejections. I don't know about it. Well, no, like, yeah, if you have to veto a trade, then you have to have a discussion as a league about whether those people should still be in the league.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Make this rule. Once the team is eliminated from the playoffs, that team can no longer trade unless it's a keeper league. But I will say, Commissioner Vitoes are better than this like, let's have the league vote on it, crap. That's dumb. I don't buy that here. I know it should ever operate that way. I know it's like a default in free. Well, no, because people are looking out for their own interests.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Trade just made themselves better. Okay, no, we don't want them. Trades should only be vetoed if it's bad for the league as a whole, not for individual teams. I have a question from somebody who didn't put their name in the email. Which top 20 players do you feel like will fall out of, are the most likely to fall out of that top 20 territory and go the way of Donaldson or Miggy in terms of 2019 ADP? Any of the four starting pitchers?
Starting point is 01:01:12 Judge. Yeah. I think I have to say Votto just because of the age. Sure. We're talking about Cabrera. Cabrera hadn't really shown it. any signs of decline until he did. Harper because of the injury history.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Maybe you could say Stanton because of the injury history. Trey Turner because he's less proven and maybe he'll run less with a new manager. But these are all like... Is Charlie Blackman a free agent at the end of the year? Oh, yeah, he might be. I think so. Because I'm not drafted in that dude as a top 20 player if he's not in course. Okay, next up is from Brent.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Would you rather have Madison Bumgarner or Jake Arieta? I actually have them back-to-back. So who's the answer? I don't remember. I just remember that I have been back to back. I'd rather draft Arieta and I like Arietta. So, he's on my bust list. I've been the low guy on Arieta all preseason.
Starting point is 01:02:06 But I do have him one spot ahead of Mad Bumnell. And Dave in Michigan says raisins are great. Césidias are not a sandwich. Diehard is most certainly a Christmas movie. You are two for three, Dave. Two for three. Yeah, but we have another email that, Oh, by the way, you left it out of the news and notes, but it's in the Constitution now.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Ruth Bader Ginsburg said that hot dogs are sandwiches. Really? It's in the Constitution. That is how it works. Legal precedent has been said. I see. In the case of the people versus Oscar Meyer, hot dogs are officially sandwiches. The notorious RGB has confirmed.
Starting point is 01:02:47 We are out of here. Thank you for listening back tomorrow with some fun stuff. I guess. And we'll talk to you then. Bye. Fun stuff.

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