Fantasy Baseball Today - 04/18 Fantasy Baseball Podcast: Bullpen Madness, Cueto, Betts and More

Episode Date: April 18, 2018

Ken Giles and Kenley Jansen are big time busts thus far, and you can add Greg Holland to that list. We look at a number of bullpens that are seemingly in flux (1:40) and discuss what the future holds ... Are we concerned about Shohei Ohtani's blisters (10:00)? Giancarlo Stanton's strikeouts (11:15)? And how about Mookie Betts (17:15)! Also we rank Patrick Corbin, Johnny Cueto and Masahiro Tanaka (18:23) rest of season ... Much more from yesterday including some noteworthy firsts from several hitters (29:14) such as Yoan Moncada and Robinson Cano, underowned SPs (38:50) and hitters (42:00), the Dropometer (47:10) for Andrew McCutchen, Nomar Mazara and others, rotation (52:00) and a look at today's matchups (56:03) ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oh, a lot to talk about today. Bullpen Madness. Chris Devensky got a save, but Norris got a save. Kenley Jansen did not get a save. He blew his second save in the season already more than what he did last year when he had just one blown save. We've got Shohei Otani and the Blisters. We got John Carlos Stanton and the strikeouts. We have Adam Azor and the Chris Towers.

What's up, Chris? Hey. Is that our band name, Adam Azer and the Chris Towers? All right. The Shohei Otani and the blister sounds like a team name. It does. Like a band name. And John Carlos Strikeout on the –

John Carlos Stanton in the strike – ooh, John Carlos Strikeout. Oh, I got him. That's what the pitchers are saying when they face John Carlos Stanton. Boom! Hey now. Also, I'm going to take my Johnny Quedo medicine, and a lot of people are taking some Masahiro to knock a medicine. He was terrible. He got to knock it around by the Marlins.

This is going to be a spirited show, Chris, and it's just me and you, so let's bring it. It's just the two of us building castles in the sky. And that's not a good song. All right, let's start with the bullpen. Other stuff that we'll talk about today, firsts for some players. Like, what did Yoamankata do for the first time in his career? What did Robinson Cano do for the first time? Scott Kingery, all that stuff.

We got actually so much. So let's start with the bullpen and Chris Devensky. 39% own, got the save. Your take on the Astros closers. I would guess he is the closer for the time being. You know, I guess the one thing I want to see is what part of the lineup was up, because that might be a situation where they're more willing to use him in the ninth inning when the best part of the lineup is up.

But I don't know. Do you know? No, I check right now. This will not take long. In fact, I bet if you count two five, I will have the answer for you. Go ahead. One, two, three. He faced D. Gordon, Gene Seguerra, and Robinson Cano. One, two, three.

I don't know that it matters, though. He's got the last two saves for the Astros. In between those two saves, Devinsky did pitch in a non-save situation. And they, you know, I don't know. A.J. Hintz said he was going to work Ken Giles in. Maybe Giles will get the next one. Yeah, that's my thought is that, like, the next time that the, six, seven, eight hitters in the lineup are up,

then maybe you see Ken Giles get the save, try to work him back in, in a little bit less of a stressful situation, and see if he can take that job back. All right, so Davensky's 39% owned. Is there anyone that you want to own in the Dodgers bullpen as Kenley Jansen? I'm just wondering if there's a D.L. Stint coming,

like with Chapman last year. Maybe, but I, unless there, Unless there is a DL stint, I think they're just going to let him, you know, maybe keep failing. He's the kind of guy who has earned a lot of leash, and I think they're going to give it to him. So I wouldn't be speculating for saves in the bullpen that features, you know, the most accomplished decorated closer in baseball. Okay. Pedro Baez and if you do want to speculate for save, which you don't have to do, Pedro Baez and Josh Fields would be the speculative ads. I don't really know which way they would go. I'm thinking bias, but I think a lot of people would say Fields.

Yeah, I don't really have a sense on that one. I've got to be honest, I haven't really considered the possibility. I have. I have. But the way I look at it is that feels like such a long shot. Then unless you're talking about like a 24-team Roto League, I just don't see much reason to speculate on saves there. Well, you're not, you don't seem that concerned about,

Jansen. I'm moderately concerned. I just don't think they're going to pull. I think it's going to take a long time before they consider pulling him from the role. Yeah, completely agree. All right. So would you take anyone other than Kimball over Kenley Jansen? Not at this point.

I would need to see more. Like Edwin Diaz, I think, is starting to push himself into that conversation. But we've also seen stretches like this before from him. We don't have, you know, Emerald Chapman and Janssen are the three guys who have the track record of doing it. It's going to take a lot more than two and a half weeks to change that. All right. Bud Norris got to save for the Cardinals. And Mike Bethini says that Greg Holland, who gave up a two-run homer, did not record an out yesterday.

And he pitched in the eighth inning. That he is going through, quote, a spring training phase, end quote. And it makes sense. I mean, but seven walks, one strikeout in two and a third. He's got an 11-57 ERA. This is Greg Holland, who's 82% owned. Bud Norris is 24-0. If you were going to pick up Davensky, 39% or Bud Norris, 24%.

By the way, Bud Norris, one walk, 17 strikeouts in 9 and a 3rd, and he has stranded all 10 runners he's inherited. Who would you pick up, Devensky or Bud Norris? I would probably pick up Norris for the... I think he's more likely to get saves in the short term, but Devansky, I think, is a better pitcher, so... if you need one to be on your roster for longer than a week or two, which I think is probably the extent to which either of them is going to be in the closer's role,

Davensky's the guy. He's the guy who can help you a lot, even when he's not a closer. So you're still thinking that Greg Holland writes the ship and becomes the closer? Yeah, I think they're going to give him the opportunity to. Whether he writes the ship, I don't know. Like, he was really good last year. We'll see. Josh Hader got a two-out save.

that is his second two-out save in his last two appearances. Two-inning save? Thank you. Two-inning save. That is his second two-inning save in his last two appearances. 68% own Josh Hader. I am a hater of the Brewers' bullpen. I don't know why they didn't go to Albers for the ninth here.

That would be another one where I would guess that a part of the lineup where they want, Josh Hader to be facing, happened to come up, but I'm not, let's see, Duval, Jeanette, Barnhart, Paraza. You're talking about the Reds lineup? Yeah. I don't know. Well, I mean, they brought him in to face the top of the lineup and just kept him in for the ninth inning. So he pitched the eighth against Hamilton, Winker, and Votto. And that's obviously two lefties. Did I say, I don't know why they brought in, why they didn't bring in Bauer?

If I did, I meant to say, Albers. Okay, good. Albers hasn't pitched since Sunday, I believe. Yes, Sunday. He could have pitched. He struggled in that game. He struggled in two of his last three, sort of, although it's not really true. Because remember, he had that blown save against the Cardinals, but it was like two infield hits and whatever.

I don't know. I'm surprised, but I guess that's the way it's going to be for a little while. Scott had mentioned that Craig Counsel wants to stick with one guy, and you are going to see. to get a lot of saves from this bullpen, at least while Canabels out. Yeah, and I just think they probably view Hader as too valuable in that multi-a-ning role, just like, you know, just like the Astros. Like, they would rather have Davensky with the flexibility to not have to wait until the ninth inning to use him.

And with the Brewers wanting someone who will pitch the ninth, I would just guess it's not going to be Josh Hater. He'll get the occasional save. and he's worth owning just because he's really good. Yeah. Okay, and finishing off the bullpen madness, Brad Ziegler, another bad outing. He's got an 822 ERA. It was a non-save opportunity.

But what do you think? Kyle Bearclaw maybe could take over? Sure, yeah. Kyle Bearclaw's not had the greatest start of his own. I think your second rider has been better so far this season. But this is probably an episode. other situation where the Marlins, the ideal situation for the Marlins is that Brad Ziegler serves as a closer for a couple of months and then they trade them for whatever C-minus prospect they

can get. I don't think there's not a lot of reason for them to go to Kyle Baraklaw, given that circumstance. We have three pitchers, three closers who pitched in a non-save situation. No, Joachim Soraya. Well, I don't know who they, both guys pitched in a non-save situation, but Soria pitched in the sixth. He hadn't pitched in eight days. Nate Jones pitched in the eighth.

He hadn't pitched in six days. Brad Brock pitched in the seventh for some reason. He hadn't pitched in six days, Brad Brock. And Hector Narras pitched in the ninth, facing 9-1, 2, and 3 in the Braves order. I think that was a match-ups thing because he pitched in a tie game on the road. And then Drew Hutchison pitched the 10th and got the same. So I don't think there's anything there in the Phillies bullpen. Probably not in the Orioles bullpen.

But, you know, you think you? think Jones is better to own than Soria? I just think he's the better pitcher. Yeah, but I need saves. Given that we don't know who the role is. What? I need saves. Well, but that's what I'm saying.

Given that we don't know who the ninth inning guy is, I'll just default to the better pitcher and hope that he gets it. All right. Makes sense to me. The big news. Shohei Otani, two innings, four hits, three runs, two walks and a strikeout against the Red Sox, and he has been dealing with blisters.

So what does that mean? do you think for his, for Shohei Otani's value, he apparently has dealt with blisters in the past in Japan. But we saw blisters completely derail Johnny Quato and Aaron Sanchez last year. What do you think right now? What's your reaction to this bad start from Shohei Otani? Can he pitch with batting gloves? I mean, my actual reaction is that the baseball is different,

and that could be contributing to it. The baseball that they use in Japan is different than the one they use in the major. I think the one in Japan is a little smaller. I think is the generally accepted consensus on the differences. But we know the baseball in the majors has lower seams than it did in recent years. It's a little bit smaller. So there could be issues with that, but I'm not, I don't think there's anything actionable here. All right.

Okay, so just a bad start for him. And he will be able to hit. That's the good news. And hopefully be back out there in about a week. or a little less. Taiwan Walker has a UCL injury. He's going to get a second opinion. John Carlos Stanton may be moved down in the order, Chris.

He is... John Carlos Stanton is 3 for 35 with 20 strikeouts at home. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, via ESPN, that is the most strikeouts in a hitter's first eight home games in modern MLB history, which began in 1900. 20 strikeouts, three for 35 in eight home games. Ew. That's through...

Not a true Yankee. No, he's not. Through 16 games, he's a 702 OPS. Last year through 14 games, Stanton had a 715 OPS, barely better. Lower strikeout rate, but he was awful. And then he was great. So what are your expectations for Stanton going forward? He needs to get on the phone with Scott Brocious and learn how to be a true Yankee.

My expectations are John Carlos Stanton's going to be awesome. He's such a weasel. What? What? What? What? Just hating on the Yankees. What?

No, he's obviously not equipped to live up to the greatness of the Yankee legend. He's just, you know, not everybody's born in pinstripes at him. And now I know what it's like to be a Marlins fan. I'm just saying if you want, if you want, there's still time, you can get a refund. He's such a Marlins fan. Ronald. No, he's fine. He's fine.

It's John Carlos Stan. We've seen this before. he's going to strike out sometimes. I guess it's a little disappointing because we thought he turned a corner on that regard last season when he lowered his strikeout rate. But I'm not, I just, I can't find the energy to be concerned about a guy with the kind of track record that Giancarlo Stan is. If he sprains his ankle or strains his groin tomorrow, that's the concern with John Carlos Stan. But the production, no. Okay.

Ronald Acuna did hit a home run yesterday, but he apparently is pressing in AAA. He wants to get called up, and they're in no hurry, as I mentioned yesterday, because Preston Tucker's hitting well. But we will see Acuna, hopefully sooner rather than later, hopefully within a week. Miguel Cabrera left with back stiffness. It was cold. They were being a little precautionary, but this is now the second time that Miguel Cabrera has left the game with a, you know, precautionary exit for an injury. So it really has not been a good start for him at all for Miggie. I don't think there's anything, any kind of precautionary back injuries when you're 36 years old.

Yeah, it's not feeling great right now. And then something I wanted to mention because last Thursday, Heath and Scott said that Carlos Santana and that Carpenter where they're by low candidates. And let's look at what they're doing so far. Santana's hitting 136 and Carpenter's hitting 185. They each have two home runs. and yet Santana is the number 11 first basement in points leagues and Carpenter is the number 16 first basement of points leagues but barely behind Santana at number 11.

It's very bunchy. And that's because of plate discipline. 11 walks, 12 strikeouts for Santana, 15 walks, 21 strikeouts for Carpenter. 21 strikeouts, it's actually a lot. But they do walk a ton. But really, if you're buying low on them, you know, it's very obvious in a points league. in a Categories League

Santana and Carpenter 10 team categories league I don't even know if they're must owns Chris In 10 Yeah they need to be owned in 10 team categories leagues But they're must own in 12 team They're probably must start in 12 team

And you know Not to be too reductive But I think there are two numbers That are worth looking at here And for Carlos Santana it's a 125 Babip that's low. That's about, I mean, he's a low babbip guy, but that's still probably half of what you would expect.

And then Matt Carpenter, it was 274 last season, 242 this season, but he's 320 for his career. He's hitting a lot of line drives. He actually is, the bat at ball profile has shifted back a little bit to where it was when he was racking up good batting averages as well as the plate discipline and power. So I'm actually not concerned at all about either of these guys. All right, that's Carlos Santana and Matt Carpenter and Santana, a very frequent slow starter. Here's an email I'd like to read. It's from Evan. Evan said, but before I do this, Chris, I need you to take a look, like, peek through the rest of the email and tell me if you think I...

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but he's batting 389 with five homers, two steals, 10 walks and six strikeouts, and seven doubles and 15 games. Yeah, there really isn't anything to say? He's awesome. I don't know if you guys have heard Mookie Betts. Very good baseball player. I do like how the elite hitters have so far been pretty damn good. You know, he got some exceptions.

Aronado's been good. hasn't been great yet. He's been suspended for four or five games. Joey Votto's obviously been really bad, but Trout's been great. Harper's been great. Trey Turner's got eight steals, and I know he's not hitting great, but he's still got eight steals. Yeah, even if he doesn't hit, if he keeps running like this, it's not going to matter.

Right, right. Blackman's been awesome, and Betts has been awesome, so the hit. And Mooky Betts was an obvious regression candidate. He had like a 260 Babbat last season. He's really, really good. Totally. All right, let's talk about two pitchers that squared off. last night. Who would you rather have rest of season? Patrick Corbyn or Johnny Quato?

I would rather than answer that, I would rather you just have to reckon with your Johnny Quato takes. Yeah, I'm sure. That would get me out of having to answer a question that I don't feel comfortable answering yet. Well, I'm going to say, I traded Quato a few days ago, and I traded him for Adam Eaton. And I still think that's a fair trade, you know? I don't think I sold low on him. I think I got a very good return. in a five outfielder league. Quato had his best start by far. He had 15 swinging strikes. He had 11 strikeouts. He now has 16 strikeouts in 20 innings. Before this, he had five strikeouts in 13 innings through two starts.

Quato's 1-0 with a 0.45 ERA, two walks, 16 strikeouts in 20 innings. Seven scoreless on two hits, no walks and 11 strikeouts at Arizona. And it didn't matter. Humidor, it could have played this game in Corse Field. He was incredible. But he does have velocity issues, big-time velocity issues. and he's a different pitcher. He's really a finesse pitcher. I watched almost the entire game, especially the Quato pitch,

is not quite as much of Corbyn. It was like a two-hour, 10-minute game, which was beautiful. You know, he's just, if he can get by with this, then great. But if you were saying yesterday that you're worried

that Joey Lucasey could get figured out, like Johnny Quato is basically a junk baller now. He's pitching off his change-up. But that's the thing with Johnny Quato is that he used to throw harder. He used to have very good Velas. Yeah, he's Felix Hernandez right now. But he, the, the one thing that makes him, that has always made him such an interesting pitcher, one thing that's always made him

a guy who pitches probably better than you expect him to pitch. And really last year was the one exception. He consistently outperformed his peripherals for, you know, almost a decade. And a big part of that is he's just, he's not deceptive in the way that Alex Wood and Joey Lucchase are, where he hides the ball really well, but all of his pitches look the same, and they all move differently. So you've got a really narrow velocity band. He throws his fastball 90, 91 now. You know, he can get it up to 93, 94 occasionally, but he's mostly working low 90s. But then the slider's 84 miles an hour, the change up's 83. And then you have to react to, you know, he throws all those pitches pretty evenly in terms of his usage. They all look the same coming out of his hands. And,

They all, it's really just the movement at the end. I just, I think he's going to be a guy who ages really well. I'm not, I'm not that worried about the lower velocity. He's not, he's not an ace anymore. But I'm not worried about him being good. All right. Well, I think, I think that if you could trade him for Darvish, to me, it's a no-brainer. Sure, yeah.

Was I too low on him? Maybe, but I still, you know, look, last year I said there were two. by-low candidates that I really felt strongly about. And for a little while, they really made me look bad because they kept on hitting. And they're more obvious than Quato is, but they were Corey Dickerson and Jake Lamb. And I saw some things in both of them that I just, I thought weren't going to last. I think specifically for Dickerson, I think he was hitting lefties very well at the beginning of the year, and he had never done that before. And those two guys had really bad second halves, as I recall.

At least Dickerson had really bad lamb, like not that good. So it took a while. Bilos don't always become Bilo or sell highs rather, don't always become cell highs the next start or the next day, whatever. I'm still concerned about Quato. I really am. I just think he has diminished stuff. And I don't know.

You know, I was shocked at what he did last night. It was really, really impressive. But honestly, like Felix Hernandez was pretty damn good his last time out. I'm not saying they're the same. But I see similar trends. Yeah, I guess the difference for me between him and Felix Hernandez, Johnny Quato's never really had to be a big strikeout guy. He had the one, the one 240 strikeout season with the Reds in 2014.

But, you know, other than that, he's been a guy who, you know, doesn't rack up huge strikeout numbers. And that's why I like the question between him and Patrick Corbyn's really interesting, just because Patrick Corbyn looks like, you know, what we want. Lance McCullors or Robbie Ray to be right now, but I just, I think Johnny Quato's still going to be pretty good. Okay, so who do you want? Who do you want? Corbin or Queda?

Corbin nearly hit through a no hitter last night, complete game. Corbin. Yeah, I mean, the strikeout numbers are ridiculous. He feels, he seems to be really comfortable with his slider right now, and it's just a devastating pitch. Yeah, and he's always been a ground, like here's, I guess the one thing that really stands out with Corbyn on the on the on the he's going to regress side and he's obviously going to regress uh he's got a 165 ERA is the number one pitcher in points number two in Roto he's a

ground ball pitcher and his babb his last three seasons very consistent 329 326 329 right now it's 218 and he's getting I think even more ground balls uh so that you know some of those are going to start finding holes whip is whip is my big concern with him uh but so far so good with Corbin. I mean, he looks like he's the breakout pitcher of the year. Right? Yeah, and the, and, you know, it's not just like he's, he's just throwing the same arsenal he always has. He's throwing that slider a lot more. It's always been his best pitch. And, you know, it turns out throwing your best pitch more is a good plan.

He's throwing his slider like he did toward the end of last year when he finished very strong. And he wasn't that bad last year. You're like the overall numbers were bad, or mediocre. But it was basically just, he was awful in May, so we'll see if he can get through that. But beyond that, I think he had an ERA under 3-5, like, every other month except May. Yeah. So Patrick Corbyn, very exciting. All right, now I'll throw another one at you.

How would you rank these three? Patrick Corbyn, Johnny Quedo, Masahiro Tanaka. Masahirah Tanaka, Patrick, Patrick, Patrick. And Johnny Queda. You really will not quit Masairo Tanaka. I mean, I liked him coming into the season, and he's doing exactly what he did last season. So why would my opinion change? Because he wasn't very good last season.

Oh, not fair. No, he wasn't even a top 30 pitcher. Yeah, no, I mean, that's technically true. But, like, he was good. He was really bad early. He was really bad early on. Uh-huh. But, you know, the final three or four months of the season, he was really good.

And it just, after the first two months of the season, we kept saying it's going to be fine. The peripherals are good. He can't keep allowing home runs at that rate. And it's continuing to happen. Yeah, it is. I'm a little bit concerned that that's continuing to happen. But not enough that I'm going to drop him. Not enough.

Like, the strikeouts are still there. The control is still good. The swinging strikes are still there. He doesn't have a fastball. I still like his approach, you know, the not relying on his fastball, relying on the splitter and the splitter. I don't like that approach. Like, he needs to have a fastball. Tanaka's got one of the worst fastballs in baseball, apparently, based on the way it gets hit.

Right, so why does he need it? Because you can't just throw off-speed pitches the whole time. Like, you've got to have some velocity. He throws it, what, 20% of the time? Yeah. Because how many pitchers are successful without throwing a fastball without having a good fastball? This is not a recipe for success. And I think the issue with Tanaka is like he just has a lot of terrible starts.

He has great starts and great peripherals. It's just the home runs. And I wonder if the fact that he doesn't seem to have a very good fastball is harping. I'm kind of on your side. Like I do want to believe in Tanaka because there are too many like great starts that inspire you. But you do wonder if the really bad starts. And last year he had six starts of six or more runs and two more or five or more runs. You do wonder, is that just a fluke?

Or is that who he is? I just, I think it's probably something you have to live with. I think it'll happen from time to time. He'll probably continue to give up home runs. That's probably a result of his breaking ball-heavy approach. But I think the rest of what he does is so good that I'll live with that, especially in a head-to-head points league. In Roto, he's, I have a lot of amounts here at Tanaka.

He's kind of screwing me over right now. But in a head-to-head league, especially, either categories or points, I think he's the kind of pitcher where you just live with the bad starts. It's a little more difficult in Roto, but head-to-head points and categories, just ride it. All right, so that's Tanaka, who you're taking first ahead of Corbyn and then ahead of Quedo. All right, let's play a game called Welcome Back. Welcome back, J.T. Ray Almuto. You hit a home run, a three-run homer off Tanaka yesterday.

Last year, you were the number three catcher in points leagues and number five in Roto. Yeah, you know, you don't really inspire me, but maybe other people. And you're much better away from home. Last year, you hit 227 at home and 317 on the road, and you hit 12 of your 17 home runs on the road. And in 2016, you went 250 at home and 3.52 on the road. In fact, forget about Christian Yelich. J.T. Raamuto, you were the biggest victim of Mark. Harlan's Park last year.

And you might get traded, which would be great. So my question to you, Chris Towers, is do you like J.T. Reaumuto or Yasmani Grandal better? Realmuto. I like Yosmani Grandal a lot, but I like J.T. Realmuto more. He's not a superstar, but he's very good. Last night's homer was a D.D. Gregorius Homer. I guess, but it was an Apo shot. Yeah, but that's, you know, it's a double.

12 feet in front of the wall in most other parks. I don't know about 12 feet. Look at how many feet? I'm going to guess 375. Let's see. Throw out a guess. Throw out a guess. 365.

That's what it was, or that's your guess? No, that's my guess. Okay, it was 378. Oh! Way to go. Closes without going over Azarwids. All right, J.T. Rabuto, welcome back. Let's play a new game.

It's called, well, it's about time. Yoan Moncada stole a base in two straight games now. It's happening. For the first time in his career. It's happening. It's happening. I picked him up. Someone dropped him in my roto league.

I picked him up. It's happening. All right. I don't know if it's happening. I'm very frustrated with him. The strikeouts continue to be an issue. But if he runs, he was, he was running, you know, he was stealing 65 bases per 150 games in the minors.

So that's, it's just an experience. explicable that he hasn't been running. And that's, as our good friend, Scott White says, it's about desire. Yes, it is. And I also desire more stolen bases from Yoamonkata. By the way, was I the only person when Chris said it's happening that thought of Yanos and Ghostbusters too, going like, it's happening. It's really happening.

I was the only one, right? That's not what I was thinking of, no. Okay, I think that's what he says. Hey, it's about time. Robinson Canoe homered. His first home run of the year. He is the number 11 second basement in both points and Roto. Canoe is batting 333 with a home run.

And he seems like another guy kind of in the carpenter-Santana mold. That's going to be better in points league. He still has good discipline. Now, last year, Cano, good play discipline. Life discipline, no, he's very messy. and eats whatever he wants. Canoe hit 23 home runs. Not a lot last year.

He only hit six after the All-Star break. So first home run of the year for Robinson Canoe. Well, it's about time, Chris. It is about time. And I don't think he's going to be a big power threat, but he's still a good player. All right. So Canoe or Albies?

I have more of Albies on my various teams. Is that a good way to weasel out? Let's answering the question. Come on. You got to step it up today. I don't have rankings. You got to get those other guys if you want the rankings. I'm just here for the takes. I will take Ozzy Albies over Robinson Cano. If somebody offered me Robinson Canoe for my Aussie Albies right now, I would say no. How about with Merrifield and Connell? Robinson Canoe points, Merrifield and Rota. Okay, I like it. That's the weasel answer. Wilson Ramos homered. Well, it's about time, Wilson Ramos homered. He's now batting two.

20 with a home run, but he's red hot in his last two games. Wilson Ramos is four for nine with a home run, three RBSs and a double. This guy, though, people were losing patience with Ramos. He's 84%-0. Are you losing patience with Ramos? No. Like, what, you have two better catchers on your team than Wilson Ramos? Come on.

Get out of here. Catcher sucks. Catcher's terrible. Yeah. He's going to be a top 12 catcher by the end of the season. I'm not worried about it. Scott Kingery. Well, it's about time.

You're shortstop eligible, Scott Kingery. And he is the number eight shortstop and points, number six in Roto right now, with a 255 batting average, two home runs, three steals. It's interesting. Yeah, what do you think? Like, the overall numbers look pretty disappointing, actually, given how much hype there was. But then, you know, the 12 RBI, the nine runs, that's really nice.

And then, I don't know, he's going to be quadruple eligible. I believe after he needs one more appearance in the outfield and one more at third base to be quadruple eligible. So he's going to be worth starting somewhere. Scott Kingery, would you rather have Kingery or Cozart? I think Cozart's the better player. So you'd rather have Cozart? Yes.

All right. And, well, it's about time. Miguel Andueharr hit his first career home run. And Duhar. Miguel And Duhar has gone six for 12 with a home run. and four doubles and no strikeouts. This deserves the sizzling sound. It's kind of interesting.

First of all, it's not great for Glaver Torres. Or maybe it's not great for Neil Walker or something. But, yeah, And Duhar, six for 12 with a home run and four doubles and one walk, no strikeouts in his last three games. A good-hitting prospect, 38% owned. What do you think about Miguel And Duhar? He's a weird prospect to judge for fantasy. because he is a prospect, and he's a pretty good one, based on the prospect rankings.

But even in his big breakout season, he plays 125 games between AA and AAA last season. Hits 315, that's really good, doesn't strike out much, but 16 homers, five stolen bases, doesn't walk. He's just, like, what does he do for fantasy in the best case scenario? You know, that's the question that I've had with him, you know, since his prospect break out last season, is I'm just not sure what the fantasy relevant version, or the very good fantasy player version of Miguel Andahar looks like. So that's my, that's my question, even with him starting to heat up, is I just don't know how high the upside is. I'm not running out to grab him. All right.

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Check it out, everybody. I'll send out another contest invite today. All right, here's our email today from John. He used the word dufus in this email, and I thought that was really great. John says fantasy baseball at cbsi.com. I was wondering if you guys could help me settle a debate ongoing in my league. I participate in a 7-by-7 head-to-head categories league, and some of the members believe that pitchers are inherently less valuable than hitters,

not because of injury risk, but simply because pitchers only pitch once every five days. Can you explain to these duffices that category production is relative and that a pitcher who contributes to five categories is just as valuable as a hitter who contributes to five categories, regardless of how often they start a week, because there's no pitcher who can start five times a week. If anything, because a starter can only tribute once every five days, his start could be said to be even more valuable. All these doofuses, it's my word there,

listen to the show, so it would be nice for them to hear some sound logic that could help me make more trades. Chris, are these duffuses right or wrong? What do you think? Are pitchers just as valuable as hitters? I think that depends on the format. in this specific one where it's seven by seven head-to-head categories, and he says pitcher who contributes in five categories versus a hitter who contributes

in five categories. If there are the same amount of categories that a pitcher and a hitter can contribute in, then yeah, they're probably roughly as valuable. They are. Of course they are. But in a traditional roto league, starting pitchers only contribute in four categories, whereas the best hitters contribute in five. So I think that's where you start to see those gaps.

And, you know, it might, I guess the top four, you know, if those guys all hit, they can be as valuable as the best hitters. But in Roto, the best hitters, generally speaking, will be more valuable than the vast majority of starting pitchers. And head-to-head points, I think we all came to the conclusion this offseason that starting pitchers. that starting pitching can't be really overvalued in that format. In points? Yes. I mean, it might, yeah, probably not.

I wouldn't trade Mike Trout for any pitcher. Probably not Harper either. Yeah, I mean, I still wouldn't trade like the top four or five hitters for any pitcher. But if you had, if you had Clayton Kirschall on your team, would you trade him for Mike Trout? Yeah, of course. That'd be a really hard trade to do, I think. I do it at a second. Because you probably built your team a specific way to account for.

That's where it gets tricky. But we're splitting hairs at that point. I mean, not for me. I think it's a no-brainer, especially with the back injuries. Yeah. Makes it easy. Easier. All right, Chris, I'm going to give you a bunch of pitchers and a bunch of hitters

who are widely available, and you tell me if they're underowned. First, we're going to start with this group of pitchers that are owned in 35 to 42% of leagues. They all pitched yesterday, and they all pitch pretty well, except for Yanni Chorinos. Adam Wainwright, Francisco Liriano, Andrew Cashner, and Yanni Chorinos. Do any of those four, Wainwright, Liriano, Cashner, or Chorinos, deserve to be owned in more than 42% of leagues, or let's say, more than 50% of leagues? I would say Yonni Chorinos, even though he was not good yesterday. I really like his skill set. I really like the way he pitches.

That heavy singing fastball is a really nice tool. Beyond that, I don't think any of these guys are underowned. Maybe Jaime Garcia at 24%. We kind of know who he is. Hey, we haven't gotten to them yet. Oh, sorry, I wasn't listening. Wainwright, Liriano, Cashner, and Yanni Chorinos. Yeah, of that group, I would say Yonni Chorinos at 35% is the only one that I would be looking to add.

Francisco Liriano, he's 38%. I would assume that's pretty much every league where his RP eligibility matters. And, yeah, that sounds about right. I own him in multiple leagues where I can use him as an RP. And that's the only place I'm looking to use him. This next group of pitchers, there are three of them. They are owned in 22 or 24% of our leagues. Do they need an ownership boost?

Jaime Garcia, Chris, you cheated and you skipped ahead. Chad Bettis and Junior Guerra. Hi, Mike Garcia might be underowned at 24%. He's the only one of this group. Not Junior Garra, who had like a two-septu. No, I'm just, I'm not. very interested in him. We've seen him before. I don't think the skill set is there. Okay. And then this group is owned in 15% of leagues or less. Does that need to be higher for Harlan Garcia, who had to tied the major league record for most consecutive no-hit innings as a starter, as a starting pitcher, to start a career. Does that make sense?

No, I got you. Yeah, his first 10 innings as a starting pitcher, because he's also pitched out of the bullpen. They were all no-hit innings over two starts. So anyway, but he walks a lot of guys. Harlan Garcia, Matt Moore, Trevor Cahill, and Ariel Miranda. Garcia, Moore, Cahill, Miranda. Maybe more. You know, he's 13% owned.

I guess I could see adding him in a deeper league and hoping that he can build off of this. But I guess Trevor Cahill's 3% owned. Yeah, that could go up to 11. Yeah. Was I the only one who thought of Mandy Moore? when Chris said maybe more. I was.

I guess I was. Sorry about that. Cahill is interesting. Cahill was really good with the Padres last year, except a lot of walks. But 369 ERA, 24 walks, 72 strikeouts, and 61 and a third, and he was terrible with the Royals.

But, like, really good in the sense that he should have been owned in more than 3% of leagues last year. So if he is that good again, and he's pitching for the A's now. Yeah, it's not a bad place to pitch. Oakland. It's maybe not quite Petco, but it's not far off. It's the kind of place that will suppress Homer's well enough. And yeah, definitely AL only. He should be owned in all leagues. All right, it's Trevor Cahill. Now these hitters, are they underowned? Matt Kemp, 52%. You tweeted

about Matt Kemp. So this one, I feel like you might actually go passionately about. Matt Kemp was good last season. Like, he only played 115 games. He wasn't actually a good baseball player because his defense and base running are really bad. But in 115 games, he hit 276 with 19 homers, 64 RBI. You just project that out to a full season. You're talking about close to 30 homers, a playable batting average and close to 100 RBI. Now he's hitting in the heart of the Dodgers lineup. Yeah, he's under-owned.

52% Matt Kemp. And I wrote about that on yesterday's Waverwire column, so hopefully people are taking notice. I think this is a situation where we get excited about unknowns, we get excited about guys who have, you know, quote unquote breakout potential, and we ignore that Matt Kemp, like he wasn't being drafted, really. You know.

Right. I agree with you. I agree. I mean, I don't think he's going to be great, but I definitely think he's going to be. It's going to be playable. There's not really any reason he shouldn't be on a roster

when someone like Adam Jones is. Right. neither of them are going to, well, okay, I guess Kemp's more valuable in Roto than he is, not comparing him to Jones. Kemp's more valuable in any league that doesn't penalize his, what's going to be a very bad walk-to-strike-out ratio? Yeah, although he's not going to keep striking out as often as he is either. No, but he won't walk.

I think he's at like 30%. I guess he is similar to Adam Jones. He won't walk. He won't steal about 30 home runs. It'll be on that pace, 27, 30 homies. Would you rather have... Like, he's owned about the same amount of leagues as Kevin Pilar. That's a no-brainer.

I guess Pilar, if you need steals, but he's not really going to steal that much unless he's making... Yeah, he got... How many does he have total? He's got three, and they all came in the same inning against the Tansis. Right. They came in one plate appearance. Yeah. And he'll, you know, he'll probably steal 15 bases this season, but I think Kemp's probably going to be the better hitter.

Right. All right, then. Stephen Piscotti. Steve Miscotti is kind of interesting. Another guy, I'm not sure he's going to be great, but he could really help you. He's got a seven-game hitting streak. Piscotti's 32% owned. He's 11 for 25 in his last seven games, three doubles in his last two games.

And just a couple years ago, he was – or was it last year? He was being drafted as like a top 120 player probably. Yeah. And I think he still has that potential for sure. The play discipline's pretty good. I think he's going to be a pretty high batting average guy, maybe not quite 295, but in the 280 range. I think he's a good hitter. Yeah.

I think he's under-owned at 32%. Piscotti or Kemp? I just did the we overvalue upside thing and undervalue Kemp as a result, and then I'll do that and I'll take Piscotti. And then finally, Ronald Guzman is 8% owned. He is batting 294 with a home run in four games for the Rangers. Yeah, I don't know, 8% owned Ronald Guzman. Should it be higher than that?

Probably not. He strikes me as an AL-only type of guy. I was watching the Rangers broadcast the other day, and I think his debut or maybe his second game. And they were comparing him to James Loney. And they meant that as a compliment? No, not for us. Not for fantasy. Not for fantasy, no. All right, that's Ronald Guzman. And here are your news and notes. The scraps here.

Evan Longoria sat with an ankle injury. He could miss a few games. Pablo Sandoval filled in. Francisco Lindor homered in his name. Native Puerto Rico and the crowd went wild. That was awesome. That was a really cool moment. I'm really excited to watch Jose Burrios tonight in Puerto Rico. A Puerto Rican starting in that game.

He could just go crazy. That would be great even against the Indians. Washington outfield prospect, Victor Robles, does not need elbow surgery. He still is facing a long recovery. He might be able to play later this year. Devin Mazzaraco has a bruised wrist. He's not their starter anyway. He's day-to-day.

But Tucker Barnhart is 29% owned and is a top-7 catcher right now. So I don't know how long that will last, but Tucker Barnhart could be a little bit of a fill-in for you a catcher. Ryan Ron and Eric Thames returned, Thames Homer. Christian Yelich is likely to start today. Anthony Rizzo returned. Will Myers began a rehab assignment, and Ben Zobris was scratched with back tightness, and Ian Hap replaced him. Clearly, Ian Hap wasn't ready to play yesterday. Apparently not.

Zobras is interesting, at least in the short term, if he can just stay healthy. He has been a lot better than Ian Hap. Yeah. Yeah, and I wouldn't be surprised if he continues to get playing time over Ian Hap until Hap figures it out or Sover slows down. I was going to talk about Javier Baez-Lowry on Herva Salarte and Lucas Duda, who have been hitting well lately. But I'm going to skip around here. I want to talk about pitchers. I do want to do the dropometer. All right, here we go.

Here's the drop-o-meter, Chris Towers. Okay. Zero to 10. Zero is, you are an idiot, Adam. I heard what you said about Johnny Quedo and you have no credibility anymore. We are not dropping this guy. That's a zero. Okay.

Ten is, you are an idiot for even asking Adam. Of course, he's a drop. So, Andrew McCutcheon, batting 1-94, 0 to 10. Zero. I'm not an idiot, Chris. Screw you. One. Thank you.

No, he's a zero. He'll get hot. He always, is what he's done each of the last two years, McCutcheon. But he's not that good, Chris. Just saying. Okay. No more Mazar. Zero to 10.

93% own. Man, he's so frustrating. Like, stop hitting the ball on the ground, dude. He hits the ball hard, and I was looking at it the other day, and he's, like, 140th in average launch angle in baseball out of 190 qualified hitters. It's just, like, hit the ball in the air. You're really big and strong.

But he's not doing it, and it's just, I don't think it's... There are not signs right now that the breakout is going to happen, and so I'm not dropping him, but I think he's... he's probably going to have another just okay season. I mean, people, we've been doing this for how many years? I've been doing this podcast for seven or eight years. Chris, for three, four. Four.

I say dropometer, you don't even give me a number. You just give me a number. For God's sakes, just give me the damn number. All right, so one. One. And what movie did I just quote? Chinatown. Those skis yours?

Both of them? Really, Chris? Have you even seen dumb and dumber? Uh, Casablanca. Dumb and dumber, you ever seen it? I mean, I've seen it. It's been a while. You don't really know dumb and dumber.

It's, I mean, I know the glove thing. They got the van. Oh, my gosh. There's a briefcase. This is really bad. And by the way. You know, there's like a hockey player in it. A hockey player?

In dumb and dumber? No. No, I don't believe there's a hockey player in it. By the way, that was No Bar Bazaar we were talking about. Chris isn't ready to drop him. He gave him a 1. Cam Neely is in Dumb and Dumber. Who doesn't know the movie now?

Who does he play? Seabass. I think you're wrong about that. I think... Isn't Roger Clemens in Dumb and Dumber? I don't know. Or maybe that's a... No, it is.

Bruins legend Cam Neely returns as Seabass in sequel, Dumb and Dumber 2. Oh, that you idiot. 20 years after Neely's cameo as an intimidating diner patron in Dumb and Dumber. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Who doesn't know Dumb and Dumber now? Roger Clements was in Kigpit. He was a Kig Pit, by bad.

Domingo Santana on the dropometer. He is 88% owned. Domingo Santana. Who I want to drop you? Four. Four for Santana. All right. Got to be a little concerned.

We'll see what happens that Yelich and Braun are both back and healthy now. Josh Bell on the drop-o meter, 94% owned. So he was one of those guys who talked about hitting more balls in the air because last season he hit the ball pretty hard. He's a big dude, but he had a 51% ground ball rate, and now he's got a 56% ground ball rate. So it doesn't, not that I'm worried,

but he looks like the same guy he was last year, and that guy is a, you know, a corner infielder at best. So three. For Josh Bell, who was the number 15 first baseman in points, number 17 in Roto last year. Mikel Franco, 71% owned. Seven. Yasseau Puyig, 96% owned. Zero.

Scooter Jeanette, 88% owned. One. Okay, so the only one you're really looking to drop is Franco. And look, I own Franco. I own Franco in two leagues last week. One was a 12-team points league, 23-man rosters, I dropped them. And you probably picked them up, right? You probably didn't draft him.

I think I picked him up, yeah. One is a 12-team 30-man roster league, so much deeper. I'm keeping them, and I'm actually starting them as my utility, which isn't great, but it's not terrible. So Franco is really, you know, league size matters. Chris, before we get into today's matchups, do you have anything wise to say about Lance McCullors, Alex Wood, David Price, Danny Duffy, or Gio Gonzalez? So I'll pitch pretty well yesterday. McCullors, shut up, Chris.

McCullors, shut up, Chris. McCullors, Wood, Price, Duffy, and Gio. Alex Wood may be my version of Johnny Quato, because I've been very skeptical, and he's continued to be awesome. I mean, he had the one bad start where he was, what, sick, right? He had food poisoning a few days earlier, yeah,

got crushed. So I'm still skeptical, but I'm also open to the possibility that he's going to make me look like an idiot all season. And Danny Duffy has been better than I think we expected. I'll tell you what, I was very encouraged by Duffy two starts ago. I watched the game. I didn't get to see any of yesterday, but his change up was really good. He had a bad first inning, and he settled in. He had a really good change up that game.

It looked like he had much better stuff. And it continued here. It was six scoreless inning. three walks, unfortunately, and eight strikeouts at Toronto. That first inning was like, it was one of, it was so bad that it was like, oh my God, are we watching the end of Danny Duffy's career? That's how bad that first inning was. It was like, it was sad to watch.

He couldn't find the strike zone at all. I think he threw 11 straight balls to open the game. He seems okay, you know, not an ace, but he seems like he's found something. I think the velocities ticked back up over the last couple of starts. Duffy, we're talking here. How would you rank these five? McCullors Wood Price Duffy, Gio. McCullors would price Gio Duffy.

Okay. Gio Gonzalez has some incredible numbers at City Field. They are so incredible that I'm actually going to take the time to look them up. And as I do that, I will talk about the fringy starting pitchers. 80% owned Nick Povetta. 80% owned Tyler Chatwood, 80% own Mike Fultenevich, 66% owned Trevor Williams, 55% own Zach Wheeler, Povetta, Chatwood, Fulte, Trevor Williams, and Zach Wheeler. Who are your three favorites in that group?

Disappointing, disappointing to only see two strikeouts from Nick Povetta, but I still think he's the most talented of this group. Tyler Chatwood, I'll just recycle a joke I made on Twitter last night. I guess Coorsfield wasn't the reason that he could never throw strikes. But he's striking guys out, which is interesting. Yeah, but 14 walks and 15 and 2 thirds innings. I just don't think he's very good. You know, the road ERA was always good when he was with the Rockies,

but the peripherals were never all that impressive either way. I just don't think there's much upside there. So I would rank them Pivotta, probably Wheeler, and then Fulte. Yeah, I was a little disappointed with Wheeler. Six-innings, three runs against the Nationals is not a big deal. Three walks in six innings. I mean, if he did that, every start, it would be a big deal,

but it's not like, oh, my gosh, you can't throw strikes anymore. Yeah. But two strikeouts, that was disappointing. But you know what? Like, I want to see one more. I'm not ready to drop Zach Wheeler because I think there's a path for him to get into that rotation and maybe be a quasi-breakout because his control has. been better so far in the minor and I think one minor league and two major league starts it's been

better it's very small sample but there's enough talent there with Zach Wheeler um Geo Gonzalez is 11 and 1 with a 178 ERA at city field that's incredible that's that's pretty good did all of them come last season that's the thing like that that encompasses some of his down years or like I guess two kind of down years for him yeah Let's take a look at today's starters, Chris Towers, see who we're going with. Kyle Freeland is at Chad Kuhl. Cool.

I'll not start either one. Kevin Gossman is at Matt Boyd. I'll probably just watch this game. I'd prefer not to start either of them. But Matthew Boyd's been pitching well enough. I am starting Gosman. You're not starting Gosman? His velocity, I think, is down more than anyone in baseball.

from last April. And I don't know. I'm much less interested in Kevin Gosman based on what he's done so far this season. And I know it's a small sample size, but it's not like we have a ton of track record of him succeeding either. All right.

I'm figuring it's going to be cold weather against the bad season. You might not have Miguel Cabrera. So, all right. Cole Hamels at Jake Faria. This is a pretty interesting one. Got to watch this game. I'll start Hamels in this one.

But not Faria? Not for you. Okay. Tyler Malley at Zach Davies. I would probably prefer not to start either of those guys, but Zach Davis against the Rads isn't the worst filling option in the world. Luke Weaver at John Lester. Start both.

Carson Former at Andrew Triggs, White Sox at A's. Don't start. You could start Triggs in a deeper league. I mean, it's not Triggs anometry here. Boo. Ian Kennedy at J.Hap. I will start both. Both.

Both. All right. A bit of a homer dome for Ian Kennedy, but all right, all right. Carlos Carrasco and Jose Burrios are starting both. Tannerow Arc at Stephen Mats. I know Matt's had a really, wait, he had eight strikeouts last time he faced the Nationals? He had 30 called strikes in that game.

Yeah, he had two swinging strikes in that one. I'm nervous. I sat him weekly, so I'd sit him daily. I would like to sell Stephen Matt's before his ERA gets over four. Vince Velasquez at Brandon McCarthy. I will start both. Wow. Interesting.

The Braves are one of the best lineups in baseball thus far. We've scored the fifth most runs per game. Okay. That sounds like it could be true. And Vince Velasquez has started three games this year. Yeah. He was terrible against the Braves. He was good against the Marlins and good.

Not good. Great against the Marlins and great at the race. Two of the worst teams of baseball. You can't tell me it's not risky. The guy had a 513 ERA last year. I will just say this. Lasquez has looked better. Last year he had the finger ligament injury.

And by the end of the season, I will say that the Braves will be closer to the Marlins and Reyes than they are to the top of the major leagues in runs scored. Okay. But, I mean, they are hitting well now. Giants at Diamondbacks Chris Stratton at Robbie Ray Start Robbie Ray

But if he doesn't pitch well Then it's time to Worry just a little bit We'll see if we can fire up the old The Woreometer or the Panicometer Meter tomorrow Well I'll let you choose which one you want to go with If you struggles

It's going to be Thursday So it's going to be Thoreometer Thursday Rick Porcelo And what? Well it's usually Worryometer Wednesday But when we save it for Thursday That's bad. Are you going to Rick Porcelo tonight?

No. At the Angels, no. All right. Well, I'm going to tie those scags. Actually, I'm not going to Tyler Skag. Yeah, I don't think I'd touch either side of this one. Really? Yeah.

All right. This is a big start. Porcelo really might be back. We'll see. Kenta Maeda and Luis Perdomo. I will definitely start Maeda. Garrett Cole at Mike Leek. Mike Leak, very good at Safeco.

I think I can bring myself to finally buy into Garicol. I think I might start him. Yeah, I know, but what about Mike Leak, you jerk? No, not against the Astros. Although the Astros are striking out more than they did last season, which I pointed out a few times. They're not scoring quite as much as they did last season. So, you know, may not be an automatic avoid,

but with a guy like Mike Leak who's pretty fringy, I think you'd probably avoid him. Cam Neely, good for you, Chris Towers. That is Chris. I am Adam. We are Kratum, and we'll talk to you tomorrow. Four band members, not zero jones.