Fantasy Baseball Today - 05/03 Fantasy Baseball Podcast: Worryometer Wednesday; Judge or Sano; Buxton's Back?

Episode Date: May 3, 2017

We're dusting off the Worryometer for Jon Lester, Danny Duffy, Matt Harvey and a few hitters who are off to dreadful starts ... Who do you trust more: Aaron Judge or Miguel Sano? Scott and Heath can't... agree ... We're telling you which players you need to add NOW before it's too late! We also talk Chris Sale, Alex Wood, Billy Hamilton and so much more. Plus we're grading your trades! ... Your emails at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:14 And what's up, everybody? It's Hump Day. It is Wednesday. We're going to get you over the hump with a wonderful fantasy baseball today podcast. Ambitious show today. Ambitious show. That is a tough word to say. I'm not going to say that word ever again on the air.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Adam Azer Heathcoming, Scott White. Chris Towers has a tummyache or something like that. He is out sick today. Heath, I think he was up too late watching basketball. Way to undermine his sick day. Gee. See, how rude. He's bad.
Starting point is 00:00:41 I didn't even stay up for the. second game, and I'm exhausted, but it was just such an emotionally exhausting game of basketball. And Adam, if you had watched that game last night and still had your bad basketball take, I might not be able to be friends with me anymore. It was one of the greatest performances I've ever seen. Not the best, but just incredible. You know, it's not a game-by-game thing for me, so it wouldn't change based on one game. But I did something last night that I had never done before.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I went to a baseball game, and I left in the first. Fourth inning. What? You are such a Yankees fan. Dude, I... Fourth inning. Here's a lesson. You gotta at least make it to the stretch.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Come on. Here's a lesson. It was a school night. I had a lot of work to do with the full slate of games. Lesson to be learned. Check the pitching matchup before you go. I thought Stroman was pitching last night. I got Lato's.
Starting point is 00:01:34 He's the worst. It was 7-0. And I was just like, I think I've had enough. And I was by myself. So anyway, let's talk about that game in a sense. Yankees over the Blue Jays because I put a Twitter poll up there last night. We had a lot of home runs last night. Holy cow.
Starting point is 00:01:49 We had like five or six guys to go double dong last night. But one of them was Aaron Judge, who is now the number four outfielder in points leagues, number two in Roto. Miguel Sineau had one home run in a different game, and he is the number five outfielder in points in Roto. So Judge and Sineau have basically been the same, but they've both been great stories. I said, who do you feel more confident in going forward? Aaron Judge, who's batting 313 with 12 home runs, or Miguel Sino, who's batting 317 with 8 home runs, 27 RBIs.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Who do you feel more confident in going forward? Judge or Sanoe? What would your answer be, guys? My answer would be Judge, and it has everything to do with strikeout rate. We've seen Judge take a dramatic step forward with that this year, while Miguel Sanoe still is among the most strikeout prone players in baseball, which means his production entirely depends on how many home runs he's hit. He'll have to have, you know, C. Risk Davis-type home run season to be of any value. And, you know, we've even seen Chris Davis have some ups and downs over the years just because that high
Starting point is 00:03:06 strikeout rate introduces so much variance. Wait a second. We got to go back to what you said. Miguel Sineau has to have a C.Ris Davis type of year to have any value? That might be overstating it a little bit. Well, so much of his batting average is dependent on hitting balls out of play, hitting them over the fence. So if he doesn't have – and, you know, maybe he will. He's certainly on pace, too. He has eight home runs already.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Right now, just to have a 317 batting average, he has a 439 bad bet. and, you know, obviously you don't need him to hit 317 to hit, to be of value in fantasy. But that BABIP could drop 100 points, and it would still be 339. It would still be on the high side. So, like, the strikeouts, I mean, I don't think I'm saying anything. Novel here, strikeouts make things a lot harder. Okay, but let me just give you a name, or I'll give you a stat line. 251, 33 home runs, 99 RBIs, 126 strikeouts.
Starting point is 00:04:12 251, 33 homers, 126 strikeouts with 99 RBIs. And that's with only 44 walks, and I know Sanoa is going to eclipse that. Do you think that's a realistic final line for Sano, 251 with 33 home runs, 99 RBIs? I think he's going to strike out more than that. I think he's going to hit more home runs than that. But it's not that far off. Okay, that's the top 25 outfielder last year, and that was Jay Bruce. So, you know, look, I'm not saying that you should trust Sano more than Judge, but I don't think he has to hit 45, 50 home runs to have fantasy value.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I do trust Sano more than Judge, and some of it's a little bit of confirmation bias, because I liked Sano more than Judge, a lot more coming into the year. What he has done, like, I know he misses a lot, and I know he strikes out a lot, but when he's, He hits the ball. His rookie year, 43% hard contact rate. His next year, 40% hard contact rate. This year, he's up to 55% hard contact rate. I don't believe that's going to maintain itself, but I also don't believe Aaron Judge is going to have a 54% home run to fly ball rate either.
Starting point is 00:05:20 But you kind of made my point. Miguel Snowe was a major disappointment in fantasy last year. He wasn't a must-start player. And he still had that hard contact rate because of all. the strikeouts that brought that variance into the batting average that, I mean, he had a 329 BABIP last year and hit only 236. I'd be surprised if he ever has a BAPBIP significantly lower than 329. You can't hit the ball as hard as he does and have a low Babbitt. He just... But last year wasn't good enough.
Starting point is 00:05:49 No, I don't know. I disagree with that. I don't... He played 116 games and hit 25 home runs. If he played 150 games last year, we're looking at a guy with over 30 home runs and we're not saying he wasn't good enough. He wasn't good enough, though. I don't. I don't know how you can debate that he wasn't good enough. Well, he's slump. Look, he had a sophomore slump, you know. He struggled last year. No question.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Okay, let me just wrap it up. Because Scott, you know, you mentioned the Babbup. And what was it for Sineau? Last year, it was 329. No, this year? Right now it's 439. 439. 439.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And he's hitting 317. Judges hitting 313. Judges a 311 Babbip right now for what that's worth. So that's encouraging. Here's the thing, like, with Judge, look at all the Yankees. Like Starlin Castro is having a huge year. Aaron Hicks, we're going to talk about it a little bit because Ellsbury might go on the DL. They're just crushing it.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Not all of them. I mean, Greg Byrd just got put on the DL. They have faced a lot of bad pitchers at home. And there just seems to be a too good to be true thing about the Yankees right now. I'm pretty convinced Judge is going to be good all year. Yes. I've moved him into my top 35 outfielders in Roto. I've got him at 31 right now, and he may sneak into the top 30 before my trade chart is published this afternoon. But this is a high point, I think. Well, I mean, he's not going to hit 72 home runs, so yeah. I mean, that's stupid comment.
Starting point is 00:07:19 That kind of goes without saying. But, you know, and I don't want to mischaracterize what I was saying about, so no. I have a higher level of concern with him, just like I've always had a high level of concern with Seeris Davis. But at the same time, I recognize the upside. I recognize the value. They're only one spot apart in my rankings, Judge and Sano. But you know how a lot of times we're like, well, if they're that close, you might as well just stick with the one you have? This is a case where if I was a Sano owner and somebody offered me, Judge, I would go ahead and take it because of that level of comfort. All righty. And the ballpark really helps as well.
Starting point is 00:07:51 A judge has a 1219 OPS at home and a respectable 815 OPS on the road so far, but he's only hitting 231 on the road. So we have a lot more to get to today, including grading your trades. But here's your stat of the day. Oh, by the way, Suno won the Twitter poll, 54% to 46% over Aaron Judge. Stata of the day. Irvin Santana is the third starting pitcher. Here we go. Listen up.
Starting point is 00:08:16 A lot of things here. Like a lot of prepositional phrases. Third starting pitcher in the last 20 years to begin a season with at least five straight starts of six or more innings and one or fewer earn run. So that's very impressive. Can you name the other two? Five straight starts of six or more innings, one or fewer earn runs in the last 20 years. Bluh.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Probably not. Pedro Martinez in 1997. He won the Siong. I make one guess and you just start naming off names? You weren't going to get it. Pedro Martinez is my second guess. I was just going to guess the best pitchers I could think of. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:08:55 To give one more guess to get the other guy. Randy Johnson. Aaron Harang in 2014. And I'll tell you something. Harang actually had a pretty decent year. He had a 357 ERA. He did have a 140 whip. But he had a 331 ERA on July 24th, and he had kind of a rough month.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And that included like that 331 ERA midway through the season included more than that, two starts of eight or more runs. So it was a nice year for Herang surprisingly good. Ervin Santana has a .66 ERA. He is 5 and 0. with 13 walks, 33 strikeouts, and 41 innings. This is now 24 starts with an ERA around two going back to last year. That's incredible. What do you think about Irvin Santana?
Starting point is 00:09:39 Where is he in your rankings? He is, I think, just outside the top 50 starting pitchers for me. And I think he's, you know, I've always felt like he's a little underrated. He'll give you innings. He'll give you respectable ERA whip. some strikeouts. He's not this good, though. I mean, this kind of reminds me of the start he got off to, I think that same year with that same team, 2014 with the Braves.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Obviously, the ERA wasn't quite this good, but it was right around two, and then he ended that year with a 395 ERA. I mean, regression is going to happen. He hasn't learned some kind of new trick. He's not missing a lot more bats. He's not throwing harder. He hasn't really changed his arsenal at all.
Starting point is 00:10:27 He's near the top of the list as far as sell high candidates go. So who ends the year with a lower ERA, Irvin Santana or Matt Harvey? I will say Matt Harvey. Oh, man. I mean, from this point forward, you know, I can see you saying Matt Harvey. It's quite a cushion for Irvin Santana. 0.66 ERA. Harvey's is over five now, right? That's going to be a tough one.
Starting point is 00:10:56 It's a lot of ground to make up. I mean, Santana has a start where he goes two innings and gives up seven runs. I mean, that kind of stuff happens all the time. It'd be up to like a three ERA, right? Yeah. It would close the gap significantly, is my point. It doesn't take long for an ERA to go bad. Would you rather have Irvin Santana or Dylan Bundy?
Starting point is 00:11:18 I would rather have Bundy. Bundy. All right, so I wanted Chris to be on the show today because he was the most anti-pitcher of all of us. going into the year. And yesterday was a great day for that viewpoint because Cole Hamill's a scratch with an oblique injury. Corey Kluber left with back discomfort, which apparently has been bothering him since spring training.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Kluber said it's been bothering him for his last few starts, but Francona said he's had it since spring training. Johnny Quato has a recurring blister on it. What is up with all these damn blisters? recurring blister on his finger. Quato's still in line to start this weekend. So really bad day for starting pitchers. and Cinderguards on the DL, is it unusually bad for Ace Level starters right now,
Starting point is 00:12:02 or like top 20 starters? Does it feel unusually bad to you? I don't know. I haven't gotten that feeling that it's unusually bad, no. Beyond, I've been attributing a lot of, not just pitchers, but a lot of the early season DL stents to the fact that it's a 10-day DL now, and I'm not sure how to separate the two. I mean, Hamels, they don't know the severity of Hamels yet.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I would imagine he will go on the DL. I don't see why he wanted to go on the DL, considering he's already missed to start. He said some really bad, bad-looking stuff, Cole Hamels. He's like, he's baffled by this injury. He can't pinpoint. He doesn't know when it came from. This feels like it could be a long one.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I hope not, but could be. Well, Klober may not be a long one, but why would he not go on the DL? You know, it's 10 days. You set up your rotation right. You can just miss one start. And I don't know that he'll only miss 10 days. It might end up being 15. You might end up missing two turns, whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:04 But it's just so easy to put a pitcher on the DL compared to how it was for 50 years. Yeah, of course. I feel like, and I know the numbers say more people have gone on the DL. I feel like this has affected top 30 or 40 starting pitchers. over a course of one month more than we're used to seeing just with the mad bum the cinder guard
Starting point is 00:13:29 the Felix now the Hamels and the Felix isn't that caliber pitcher anymore I said top 30 It's debatable It's debatable but we don't need to get hung up on that I don't know look it's just been bad luck
Starting point is 00:13:45 How many of the top 10 starting pitchers have actually given you their value Kershaw yes sale yes not Lester, not Areietta, not Cindergarde, not Bumgarner. Cuedo. Cindergarde has. I mean, he's not going to very soon.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Okay, if I asked the question in a week, the answer would be no. He's on the DL. Shurzer, yes. Yes. Yeah, no, it's been ugly. DeGrom, yes. I'd say maybe half. Four or five of the top ten, just off the top of my head.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah. Yeah, it's been a weird, kind of a weird start. But, you know, if you did this, at every position, you would probably get a similar result. Maybe not necessarily with the injuries. Obviously, Bumgarner and Cindergarde are going to be down for a while. But you did it with second baseman, the top 10 second baseman, how many have actually pulled their weight. You would get a similar result.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And we'll have Rueenadoor on our Worryometer Wednesday coming up in a little bit. David Dahl is still a ways away from returning from a stress reaction in his rib, whatever that means. They had Herardo Parra in the lineup against a righty yesterday with Mark Reynolds sitting. Miguel Cabrera came off the DL. He homered and then he left with groin tightness. And he just came off the DL with a groin strain. They're saying, look, it was cold. It's precautionary.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And I think they expect Cabrera to be in the lineup today. Greg Bird is on the DL with an ankle injury. He heard his ankle late in spring training. It's possible. It's the reason why he's been bad. We'll see. I did not know that the ego was located in the ankle. Greg Bird's a great guy. You leave him alone.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Jacoby Ellsbury has a bruised nerve in his elbow. He may end up on the DL. Do you have any interest in Aaron Hicks, 18% owned? 300 batting average, five home runs, 11 walks, 8 strikeouts. Any interest in Aaron Hicks, 18% owned? I mean, this has been above and beyond the production you normally expect from Aaron Hicks, right down to the walk-to-strikeout ratio, 11 to 8. So, I mean, he deserves to be more than 18% owned if Ellsbury goes on the DL, sure. I did not find a way to work him into Waverwire today.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I think there's other outfielders in that range like your boy, Delano to Shields, Aaron Altair, that I would rather own. Okay. And we've got some more names that you need to pick up now before it's too late. That's coming up. Chris Bryant left with calf tightness. He says he will play today. Mike Sosha said that Albert Pujols is over the.
Starting point is 00:16:16 the foot injuries that he's had for the last couple of years. So, you know, look, he's a streaky guy. If he's healthy, maybe Pujolz has a hot streak in him. J.D. Martinez had what Brad Osmus refused to call a setback, but he said that Martinez has stopped making progress in his recovery from a foot injury. He's just sort of plateaued right now. Yo, the National Sent Joe Ross down. It's so awful. Yeah. And this wasn't another, like, tinkering with off days kind of thing, just, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:45 maximizing roster space because they're not going to need a fifth starter for a while, like at the start of the year. They don't feel like he has the arsenal to be an effective major league pitcher. They want him to work harder on developing a third pitch. Joe Ross, or I think it was Dusty Baker said he's not Joe Ross right now. Would you drop Joe Ross right now? Yep. Okay, drop him. Philadelphia is going to be cautious with Aranola.
Starting point is 00:17:11 We don't know exactly when he'll be back. Don't think it'll be too long. Travis Darno left with a sore wrist Milwaukee outfielder Ryan Brain Pinch hit, auto correct and Colorado catcher Tony Walters left with a concussion. Do we have an update on Tom Murphy? He's not particularly close
Starting point is 00:17:29 last I saw. I think he was going in for another examination on the arm. I think the last time I saw said he was resuming baseball, some baseball. He's been fitted for a soft cast 34 minutes ago according to this update. Not that close.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah, and there is some baseball activity. Man, that is a long D. Elston for Tom Murphy. That stinks. Okay. Instead of being asking you about standouts, I'm pretty sure I've got them all in the notes, so let's get to them. And here's your quote of the day, quote, there was nothing set in stone.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Obviously, things can change. Anyone who's followed our club over the last year and a half can see that things change daily or hourly. Anybody know who said that? I'm going to say Mike Mathini. It is Cody Bellin, or his manager, Dave Roberts. Talking about Cody Bellinger.
Starting point is 00:18:20 He's softening the stance. It's like happened with Rich Hill. Yeah, I think he's going to stay. I think he's going to stay up. Scott, good call, good call. He needs to be universally owned. He is mentioned in Waver Wired today, and I'm going to use that quote. Thank you, Adam.
Starting point is 00:18:33 There you go. All right, Cody Bellinger, another big game, and, yeah, Jack Peterson should be back on Friday. Yeah, good stuff from him. I'm surprised how much contact he's made to be. To be honest Yeah, no, must don't Quote of the day number two Boston Red Sox
Starting point is 00:18:53 Organization That's Mani Machado Went on a rant Against the Red Sox Who threw at him again Who Getting ugly I'm okay with universally
Starting point is 00:19:04 Taking a stance That throwing at people is bad I'm okay with universally taking a stance That this is just the way baseball is But I guess get a little bit tired of the, I've lost respect for this organization when your organization does it too.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Like, the Orioles do it too. It's not act like this is something the Red Sox invented. It's getting a little old, though. Like, stop throwing up Maddie Bichata. I think they, I mean, this, like, the re-games were they thrown at him now? What's the retaliation for now? The slide. Still, still the slide.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Something happened since the slide, right? Somebody got hit yesterday. Dylan Bundy, or two days ago, Dylan Bundy hit someone. but it didn't seem like Somebody's getting hit today There could be a serious brawl today Like it could get nuts All right
Starting point is 00:19:50 And finally you're auto correct of the day Denison Conquer Pitched last night Left his start It was a bad one Denison Conquer Edenson Volcker Yes
Starting point is 00:20:01 Good for you Wow He had a hideous blister Ballpark alert everybody Atlanta's new ballpark SunTrust Park appears to be a big-time hitters park Ender NCRte has an OPS over 1,000 at home.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Freddie Freeman has a 1,700 OPS at home. He actually has hit more homers on the road. But seeing the way in the early going that SunTrust Park has played for Atlanta, is it fantasy relevant? Is it changing anything for you guys? Well, it would be bad news for Julio to run in the long run, him being a pitcher who already struggles to keep the ball in the park. Seems like the strike zone is smaller there, too.
Starting point is 00:20:40 It's a little too early still, I think, to make actual substantive changes to your Braves. But, I mean, if you just look at the dimensions and compare them to Turner Field, it would make sense that it would be more of a hitter's part. My friend went there the other night. He said it was great ballpark. So they did a really nice job. It's a Little League Field. But well-lit Little League Field. Speaking of which, time for today is Thames watch.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Eric Thames win 0 for 4 with a strikeout at St. Louis, dropometer for Eric Thames. Okay. I actually moved him up in my rankings again yesterday. To what? He is now ninth at first base and I think like 12th in the outfield. Wow, so you'd rather have him than like Christian Yelich, Eric Thames? I would. Okay, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Let's see Let's do this segment Add before it's too late Here are a bunch of guys Who are showing some signs Some of them are fairly owned Some not so much Okay Javier Baez
Starting point is 00:21:50 I still think he's over-owned At 68% But I'll ask you anyway Should we add before it's too late Javier Baez 6 for 8 With two home runs And 4 RBIs and a triple In his last two games
Starting point is 00:22:02 Javier Baez Add before it's too late No I'm not I mean look If he was assured every day at Bats and he was, you know, you could see how he could put together a hot streak that would make him fantasy relevant in like a Jed Jerko sort of way.
Starting point is 00:22:21 But, yeah, there's a lot of hurdles to clear here. That's the thing that I kind of don't get is, like, he's not assured every day at Bats. And I'm not assured if he played every day, he would be offensively good enough to be must own. I don't understand the ownership for HobbyBaias, 68%. Like I said, still feels a little high to me. But I understand, you know, there's potential there. You just, you haven't seen it yet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:47 This one's a little more interesting. Here's a guy who homered yesterday, and in his previous five games batted 308 with no extra base hits, but stole two bases and had seven walks to one strikeout. Has that ever been said before about Byron Buxton, who's 48% owned and maybe turning things around a little bit? Is Byron Buckson someone 48% own, but should we add him now before it's too late? I did put Byron Bucston in the waiver wire column today.
Starting point is 00:23:17 He had a monstrous home run, and it was more about the walks and strikeouts than it was about the home runs. Since April 17th, he has more walks than strikeouts. I don't know why he was so god-awful, terrible for the first two and a half weeks of the season, and I don't think he's somebody you could even consider starting right now but I do think he's back into the range of players that we know what the upside is he's going well enough right now that I can believe he may find its potential this year that's Byron Buxton would you rather have Byron Bucson or Double Dong or Brett Gardner
Starting point is 00:23:55 I'd rather have Buxton I think it's been it's been a while since Gardner's stolen a base and that's still going to be the primary, the basis of his value. Sure. I don't know how much he's going to run. All right. I'll have the next group here. Who do you feel like you need to pick up now before it's too late? San Francisco third baseman, Kristen Arroyo, who's shortstop eligible.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Colton Wong, who's, you know, doing some nice things, actually. Aaron Altair, 19% own, and Yonder Alonzo, who, because he sits against lefties, is 21st at first base in points, but 14th in Roto. and batting 2.92 with five home runs. And this is, I went back a while. This is the best month Alonzo's had in a long time. And I know he wanted to change his launch angle. He's been hitting a lot more fly balls, yeah. Kristen Arroyo, Colton Wong, Aaron Altair, Yonder Alonzo.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I think the most relevant of the two of the four right now are probably Altaire and Arroyo, just because of that shortstop eligibility. I'm not in a big hurry to pick up either, to be honest. I'm thinking through my rosters now, and I obviously just did a thorough playing of the waiver wire Sunday night. I can't think of who I'd want to drop, except in Leaves so deep that Altaire at 19% is already owned, I can't think of anyone I'd want to drop for him.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I would definitely say Altaire is the one I'm most interested in. Would you drop Herodot-Para for Aaron Altair? Yes. Yeah. quickly. Yeah. Would you rather have Alta or David Peralta? Peralta.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Peralta, by pretty good stretch. How about the liner to Shields who homered yesterday or Altair? I'm sticking with Altaire. I'll take to Shields. Okay. All right. Nice little disagreement there. Now, it's Worryometer Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Not everything can be peaches and cream on this Wednesday. And so we'll talk about John Lester and Danny Duffy, who, according to the update on our website, was struggling to hit 90 miles per hour with this. two seamer by the fourth inning, and I guess he's having trouble as he goes deeper into games with his velocity. But I do need to tell you about Seekkeek, and I got to thank Seat Geek for finding me a great value last night. As I mentioned, I went to the Yankees game for four measly innings, but for only $17 measly dollars. How did I do that by using my Seat Geek app? I got the ticket sent to my phone.
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Starting point is 00:27:22 And 10, oh, super worried. It's time to drop. John Lester. 10 to drop. 10 to drop. Okay. Well, no. I don't think any of these guys are drops. Sits. Sends a sit. Thank you for calibrate it. John Lester, zero to ten.
Starting point is 00:27:39 It's not zero because he has two quality starts so far this year's. Five walks in this last start, but that hasn't been an issue. I don't exactly know what his issue is, but he just hasn't looked himself. I will go... Velocities down a little bit. I'll go... I'll go... I'll go a full. This is an excellent Joe Madden quote that you've got in the notes here. I'm about why he had five walks last night. Well, right. He couldn't find the strike zone because it was a ball zone, according to. I'm going to go two on Lester.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Okay, yeah. I also put in the notes that Lester had a four-start stretch in July last year. 16 innings, 18 earn runs, 12 walks, 15 strikeouts, and six homers allowed. And he had a 244 ERA. But, look, I've been a little worried about Corey Klober. because of the workload deep into the postseason, pitching on three days rest. Well, and he's not an ace.
Starting point is 00:28:35 He's an ace. But I think that same workload concern should exist for Lester. He only threw 202 and two-thirds last year. That was the big difference between him and Kluber. He didn't reach the same regular season. But in the postseason, he threw 35 and two-thirds last year. I'm more concerned, and this may be related. I'm more concerned about the velocity.
Starting point is 00:28:57 This is actually the first time. I've noticed that he's down. Same here, yeah. More than a mile per hour on average from last year. And if we are operating under the theory that it may actually be more than that because of the change in the way they measure velocity, that's concerning. Okay. Danny Duffy, zero to ten on Danny Duffy, who now is a 389 ERA,
Starting point is 00:29:20 and only 27 strikeouts to 14 walks in 37 innings. Two bad starts in a row against the White Sox. I will say 4.9. It's a weird thing happened with Duffy because I pretty much had him. I think I was the lowest of the three of it coming into the season. It wasn't because I had concerns about Duffy or I'm not saying I was right because I was lower on him. But he kept inching up my rankings throughout April, even though I wasn't really impressed with what he was doing because of the bad performances and injuries to top 30 starting pitchers. He's a number three fantasy starter, I think, if you don't have the SPARP designation.
Starting point is 00:29:56 And so number three fantasy starters have good stretches and bad stretches. Yeah, but the underlying stats and the velocity should be pretty concerning. You've got a 4.9 on Duffy. How about you, Scott? Yeah, I'm a little more worried than Lester, so I'll go five. But, I mean, he had 12 swinging strikes in this game. The swinging strikes have been pretty consistently high. His swinging strike rate is 12.6%. Last year, it was 12.9%.
Starting point is 00:30:29 The fact that it was his only bad starts have come against the white socks. It's weird because it's the white socks, but it's also... They've been hitting fairly well lately, I think. Yeah, it's also like, well, maybe they just have a really good scouting report on them or something. Yeah. All right. Well, would you rather have Marco Estrada or Danny Duffy? I'm speaking with Duffy.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Me too. Stroman or Duffy? Strowman. I'm sorry, Duffy. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to say Duffy. All right. Worryometer on Matt Harvey, zero to ten.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Ten. I was really worried when I saw the line. I actually tuned into that game to see him throw his last two pitches or something. And I saw he had allowed six runs, and I'm like, man, am I going to have to walk this back tomorrow? And then I checked Brooks baseball this morning and did a double take seeing the velocity numbers he put up yesterday. He was hitting 99 yesterday. He averaged 96. It was by far the best velocity he's had in the start this year.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And, you know, that's kind of the tone he and the Mets took after the game, reading the recap on MLB.com. Like, yeah, it was bad results, but this is the best I've felt in a long time. He's got a 5.14K per 9 and a 5.14 ERA. Yeah, he's not all the way there yet. More than a month into the season. Continuing, continuing to build himself back up. about Matt Harvey. No, it's the best Matt Harvey's felt in a long time.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Well, then what is Matt Harvey looking for? Well, I think this is really the first bad start he's had that I even care about, because the last one I'm completely ignoring is their Mets are idiots. But it is troubling that the strikeouts have been so low. Oh, yeah. And they did acknowledge, look, he has to improve his location. The command's not all the way back yet. But, you know, these baby steps, you know, he's coming back from a major surgery.
Starting point is 00:32:25 and the fact he's regained his velocity now, I think is very encouraging. Now, if we're, depending on how we're calibrating this Wariometer, am I going to start him for his next start? Probably not. But I am going to stick with my... Sit him with a tin, right?
Starting point is 00:32:42 Sure. Yeah, but... I think I'm sitting. I mean, if we're thinking more long-term, I'll go about a five on Harvey. I still... I'm sticking with my bold prediction that he's going to have the best ERA
Starting point is 00:32:54 for the Mets. He's going to be the best pitcher for the Mets from this point forward. Well, I remember when you said that, I said, do you think Noah Sindergarde is going to get hurt or something like that? It helps. He's got a long way to go catch the Grombe. Yeah. He's going to get hurt too probably. I guess they all get hurt than Harvey could be.
Starting point is 00:33:10 It's a great time to buy on Harvey. It really is. As ugly as his last two starts have been, I think his owner's looking to jump ship. There's a good chance of that anyway. And I'm telling you, he's on the right track here. All right, look, this is very consistent. This is almost exactly how Scott anticipated Harvey starting the season. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I mean, didn't give any numbers. But this is very consistent with what Scott thought for Harvey. And it's also consistent with what he thought for Harvey. They have two completely different viewpoints about what the future is going to hold. And I was like the first few starts, I was starting to buy in to Scott's idea that, you know, he's not good yet, but he's not been bad early in the year. and he's maybe getting better. But, man. Look, he was playing...
Starting point is 00:33:56 He was hitting 99. He's playing in a Little League park. I have not seen those velocity numbers yet, and I don't generally trust them until, like, 24 hours after the start. There's no question he was throwing his hardest left. Whatever you want to say it was, I mean, it's been spoken about you,
Starting point is 00:34:12 and I read the same thing that Scott read. Terry Collins and Matt Harvey both liked the, you know, the velocity, the stuff, I guess, but Terry Collins, said he doesn't have his command yet. So that's what it is. All right, to speed up Wariometer Wednesday, I got three guys, three hitters. Carlos Gonzalez, who's batting 207 with two homers. Trevor's story, yish.
Starting point is 00:34:33 170 batting average, 13 walks, 42Ks. Even when he was streaky last year, I don't think he had a month-long stretch with a 170 batting average. And Rooknet O'Dore, same thing here, 181 batting average, four walks, 24 strikeouts. Is anybody at a Carlos-conson-Strecht? always Trevor Story, Rooknett-Odor, like really worrying you. I am going to say no, because I think when you get players with horrid plate discipline like these deep, dark slumps where it looks like there's no light at the end of the tunnel,
Starting point is 00:35:08 they're part for the course. And, you know, they didn't happen at the start of last season, so we don't remember them as well. Well, Adorca kind of did. Not this bad, though. Very bad start in April, if I remember, right? When I, and then I wrote something about it, and we had a little argument on the podcast. Okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:35:24 O'Dore's really, really streaky. I would expect Story will be too. I'm much, of those three, I would say I'm by far the most concerned about story. O'Dore's strikeout rate is the same it was last year. He's got a 195 bad bit. Here's a little perspective on Story, though, if I may. As bad as he's hitting, like a 175 batting average or whatever, and even in points leagues, which you would think would be,
Starting point is 00:35:49 his worst format because of how much he's striking out. He is... Hang on, let me find it here. Okay, not as high as I thought. Never mind. I was remembering that wrong. So, I don't know. Like, I would be willing to buy low on O'Dore's story.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Not sure about Carlos Gonzalez. He... Gonzalez does get, like, ridiculously hot. You know? He does do that. But he's also... He's only 31. He feels like he's 50 to me.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I guess the nice thing, if you're Carlos Gonzalez's owner, is this makes it harder for the Rockies to trade him right now. Or maybe he'll just slump for a little while and then get hot, not get traded. I don't think the Rockies are going to trade him. They're right in the thick of things. Yeah, that's very vulnerable. Particularly if you believe the Giants are down this year. Very realistic for them as of now.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I question whether a month from now it will look that realistic, but they were one of the teams I thought could surprise. All right, double dongs from yesterday, Jay Bruce. Jay Bruce is the top eight outfielder and the number seven first baseman in fantasy. His strikeout rate is way down. Yeah, yeah. How about that? Eleven walks, 18 strikeouts, lowest strikeout rate of his career for Jay Bruce.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I have moved him up quite a bit in my rankings yesterday, too. Not as high as like Judging Snow, but he's like right on the verge of top 30 outfield, top 12 first baseman. Would you rather have Hanley or Bruce? I think I have Bruce a little bit higher, though then Hanley had double dungs too. He did, he did double don't. But no, I'll stick with Bruce. I will stick with Hanley. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I can't buy that Jay Bruce is all of a sudden going to stop striking out. His swinging strike rate hasn't really changed. He's Jay Bruce. But that said... Yeah, maybe, and he's been streaky. I do have a lot of faith in Kevin Long. Yeah, look, he was terrible with the Mets last year, but Bruce actually ended up as the number 24.
Starting point is 00:37:49 outfielder in points number 21 in Roto last year. And his season, 251 with 33 home runs, remember I referenced it earlier as a Sino projection, his season last year was very, very similar to his like 2011, 12, 13 numbers. Every year was like 255 with 30-ish home runs and 100-ish RBIs. And he was a must-own, a streaky guy in fantasy. All right, anyway, Steve Pierce double-dong, Brett Gardner double-dong, Hanley, Dozier, Marwin Gonzalez. Anything you got there?
Starting point is 00:38:25 Not really. Dozier's fly ball percentage, a year when everybody's is up, his is way down, and his breakthrough a few years ago really hinged on that. So beyond just a home run total, I'm keeping an eye on how many fly balls he hits.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Marvin Gonzalez is up to seven home runs, but he doesn't have a job. He hasn't been starting all that consistently even recently. So I'm, you know, 10% ownership. I don't know that it needs to be much higher than that. Okay, dokey. And let's grade some trades, part one.
Starting point is 00:38:57 We'll do a little bit more later. We still have Noamar Mazarra to talk about. He's been moved down in the order. We still have some nominations for the third best Adam Sandler movie. I want to talk about Chris Sale, Sunny Gray, 84% owned, Alex Cobb. Man, Zach Britton. Put a pin in that one. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Grade the trade, part one. from Nick. Give Aaron Judge and Trevor Story. Ooh. Aaron Judge and Trevor Story get Trey Turner and Mitch Hanager. I'll go B. Sure. I think it's worth it for Turner. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:34 All right. Spencer in Toronto. By the way, is there a, is there like a hooch? Because Turner and Hooch would be a great team name. A baseball player named Hooch? Yeah, or something like that. I think we would have talked about. him by now. Well, like something similar, Turner and...
Starting point is 00:39:53 Something that sounds like Hooch. If you have like, what's that guy's name? The former Phillies catcher. Carlos Ruiz. Oh, would they call him Chooch? Yeah, Turner and Chooch. Thank you, Scott. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:09 This is from Spencer and Toronto. Deeravado, Walker, Murno, and Paxton. Those are Canadians. They're Canadians. Oh, they're Canadians. with left-hand who are predominantly left-handed. Okay, because you've got a Joey, a Justin, and a James, and a Larry. Are there any right-handed Canadians in baseball?
Starting point is 00:40:28 Are all Canadians left-handed? I think so. I'd have to ask Jonah Carey, whose name also starts with the Jay. I wanted to, because they may actually, some of these guys may actually be right-handed in most aspects, but the thing they were most known for, whether it was hitting or pitching, they're left-handed. So it's, you know, a lot of guys bat left-handed, but throw right-handed, you know. Yeah. Spencer and Toronto wants to know if he's dumb for trading Mike Trout.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Probably. Yeah, in a head-to-head category. That's usually a flat yes. Give up Trout, Bundy, Dickerson, and the demoted Joe Ross. Give up Trout, Bundy, Dickerson, Cory Dickerson, and Ross. Get Thames, Daniel Murphy, Madison Bumgarner, and Kevin Gossman. I think you're going to regret this. Really?
Starting point is 00:41:22 Almost certainly. Wish I knew how deep the league was because the shallower it is. I mean, the deeper it is, the better it looks. Yeah. I just, the one guy that I'm like Trout, obviously, I'm 100% confident. And Daniel Murphy, I'm 100% confident in being not as good as Trout, but good. Good. Very good. Thames, I think, is going to be good.
Starting point is 00:41:46 And Bundy, I think is going to be good. I mean, the non-trout side is getting three of the best. players. Probably. Well, would you rather have... Bumgarner and Bundy maybe... That's what I was going to ask.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Depending on how much you're... Yeah, I'd rather have a burden to risk you have there. I'd rather have Bum Garner. I'll give it an even C. And if I'm the trout owner, I'm probably not going to take it
Starting point is 00:42:08 because I pretty much never take C trades. I'll give it a C, though. I don't think it's... I don't think it's so bad for giving up trout. Yeah. The only way I would do this deal if I thought if it was in 14 different leagues
Starting point is 00:42:22 and didn't have any Eric Thames and just felt like I had to get him. All right. C-minus. Okay, so he thinks you are slightly dumb, and Scott thinks you are of average intelligence, Spencer. And aren't people of average intelligence kind of dumb? Yeah, I'd say so, yeah. Especially compared to, like, Nick, who got a B or something on his trade. So, Jeffrey and Grand Rapids, give up Edwin Encarnacio.
Starting point is 00:42:45 No, no, no, get that. So give up Abraeu and Lorenzo Cain. He does not need steals. Give up a Breu and Lorenzo Cain. Get Encarnacion and Greg Holland. Steels. Okay. That is a...
Starting point is 00:43:01 That's another B, I think. What if I told you it was a 4x4 Roto League where saves were not a category? Oh, they aren't a category. You're right. That's important information, Adam. I wish you had mentioned that. Me too.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I guess I have an average intelligence. I'll still give a B because I was hesitating and thinking maybe I should go B plus. So now it's back down to a B. I think I would still do it, but I don't love it C plus. Oh, innings is it? Innings pitched as a category? Now you're getting Greg Holland? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:32 C, I'll call it C. This is from, this is from, oh, I don't have a name, I'm sorry. Dear Roger, Pete, John, and Keith. It's got to be the Who, right? Sure. More on the Who in a second. Give Dylan Bundy get Luis Severino. I give that a C-plus.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I don't do it You'd rather have Severino than Bundy And he says F by the Oh, I'd rather have Bundy than Severino Yeah, I know Scott would rather have I would rather have Severino than Bundy Yes, I think the
Starting point is 00:44:03 Interesting I mean he's getting a ton of strikeouts And Bundy's getting very few It always comes back to the strikeouts For me Adam That's not who you are at all It is very much who I am What's you're talking about
Starting point is 00:44:14 I've been I was hyping strikeouts Before you were born You are Mr. Rick Porcello, Kyle Hendricks. Only because... Only because... That's a very recent change. Because the industry, I think, has changed,
Starting point is 00:44:30 and I've had to kind of soften my stance on... You like Matt Harvey. You don't like strikeouts? But, I mean, bottom line is strikeouts are... Strikeouts and walks are the number one thing of pitcher controls, right? I mean, not losing sight of fundamentals here. Right. I agree completely.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I thought I was Mr. Strikeout. You don't even like Danny Salazar. You haven't, you've known me but a fraction of the time I've been doing this. You think you have me all figured out. I just thought I knew 2017, Scott White. hates Danny Salazar, loves Porcelo and Hendricks, and now you're saying you're Mr. Strikeout. I am Mr. Strikeout.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Well, anyway, what I was going to say was, I'm driving yesterday and Pinball Wizard came on, and I'm thinking to myself, yeah, it is officially official. I always knew it, but I didn't know it for sure. The Who is now tied with Smashing Pumpkins as my least favorite band of all time. I just don't get it. How does anybody like The Who? They completely suck.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Line-up stuff. Joe Madden is sticking with Kyle Schwabber as his lead-off hitter, and Schwabor homered, so Joe Madden was right. Also, Noamar Mizarra batted eighth for the second straight game against the righty, and Mizarra homered, so Jeff Bannister was right. And Delano Shield's lead off and homered. But no, this is serious stuff with Mizarra here. He got off to a great start and looked like he could be the breakout player of the year.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And now he really is back to being bad for fantasy. Like he was not good last year. He was great for what, two weeks, terrible for two weeks. Just hit a home run. I expect we're going back the other direction. I don't know. I mean, the big thing with Mizarra is that, like, it's one thing to struggle against lefties. It's another thing to have almost no production at all against lefties.
Starting point is 00:46:15 He is terrible. So I imagine he's still about 90% on. I'll check right now. Mizarra, but if there was something like, would you drop him for Byron Buxden? If you were just taking a shot, you weren't starting either. No, no, no. But Adam, would you drop him for Delano to Shields? If I needed steals in a Roto League, like there's just a chance that no more Mizarra,
Starting point is 00:46:38 his numbers right now look like they looked last year, and it just wasn't very good, and he doesn't steal bases. So I think he might be. Byron Buxton's numbers look like. He's batting 156. I was over to DeShields. You know, like, since those first two weeks, Confordo has leapfrogged Mazar to me.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Peralta, David Peralta, is probably pretty close. But, I mean, like, I don't know what's going to happen with Mazzara, but he's shown enough evidence that this could be the year that I'm not, like, going to dump him now. Right. I feel the same way, but I do feel like people. If he struggles for another week or two, people are going to have to make decisions on him. And right now, Mazar is 93% owned.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I could see that being around 80 or so in a week. He's just homework or something. But you know who else recently dropped in the Rangers lineup and then homered yesterday? Gallo. Joey Gallo? Jonathan Lucrele. Oh, yes. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Who has five strikeouts all year. Yes, I forgot to give that stat yesterday, I think. That is, he's going to come around. Come on, Lucre. coming around. He's just homeward. He's already come around. There you go.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I think three hits, too, total. That was a wild game yesterday. Three up. Mitch Morland, 50% owned. He had been three for 30. With only five walks, five strikeouts, though, in that three for 30 stretch. But he doubled again. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:02 We haven't talked about Moreland in a while. 50% owned. What do you think? It's about right. 50% owned sounds good to me. Billy Hamilton has stolen five bases in his last two games. He's still only around. 40th at outfield in both points in Roto.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Hamilton has 15 steals. That's more steals than 20 baseball teams this year. And he is also four steals away from matching the entire 2016 total of the Baltimore Orioles who stole 19 bases all season. Whatever. Nothing about Hamilton. Just thought that was interesting. And Josh Harrison homered again, guys. 46% owned.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Now he has eclips last year's total. He has five home runs this year. Josh Harrison, anything changed from yesterday when we weren't really that interested. I'll tell you what. I'd rather have him than Javier Bias. You know, I was writing Waver Wire, and I kind of dismissed it yesterday a little bit as we don't expect him to hit home runs, so him hitting two home runs doesn't matter that much to me. The third home run doesn't change my opinion. I think he's going to be a power hitter. But it seems like he's pretty much secured the lead-off role. And if he's going to be a 300 hitter leading off all year for the Pirates, he's going to be a valuable asset.
Starting point is 00:49:11 You talk about it with plate appearances in points leagues. And somebody that hits for that high of average, she should score a decent amount of runs. He should be higher than 46% out. Okay. And Adam Sandler's third best movie, first of all, if you gave me a list that didn't have either Billy Madison or Happy Gilmore, then I will say that all of us are now dumber for having... I thought, wait, Scott, why are you doing this? That's a Billy Madison reference. I thought we already decided.
Starting point is 00:49:44 It's the wedding singer, right? Yeah, you know what? I actually like the wedding singer more than Billy Madison. How about that? That's pretty stupid, but, you know, that's a D-plus. The Longest Yard, I enjoyed that, even though I liked the original much better. Right, so the longest yard, airheads, 51st dates, and wedding singer, I'd say, got the most votes. Airheads, I don't consider an Adam Sandler movie, but it is very funny.
Starting point is 00:50:07 That is a Brendan Fraser movie. Just like Caddyshack is not a Bill Murray movie, no matter what anybody says, nor is it a golf movie. No, is it a sports movie? I saw a couple mentions of the Waterboy, which... I don't think so. That was really good. I was surprised I didn't see anger management, because that's probably number five for me. I forget about that one.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I was doing my Adam Sandler top five anger management. You know, Jack Nicholson kind of takes it to another level. I forget about that. I'd like to see that one again. But okay, thank you for participating. I think the wedding singer is probably the winner right now. But Big Daddy and the Wedding singer, Neck and Neck for third spot. Also, somebody, did you guys see the email about the Zohan scale?
Starting point is 00:50:51 No. Let me see if I have time to read this real quick. It was so awesome. I'll get to it in a second. Okay. Who do you want to talk about from the rotation today? Chris Sale, Verlander, Carlos Martinez, Paxton, Kintana Tanaka. I want to talk about none of them really
Starting point is 00:51:15 Paxton's five walks were a complete aberration between both this year and last year he was elite control pitcher last year I don't think he'd walked more than two in a start before this one so he's fine Kentana looks like he's back on track two good starts in a row this one eight innings Burlander has a couple good starts in a row
Starting point is 00:51:37 you know whatever I want to say that Chris Sale, by no means you sell high. Like, you need Chris Sale. Sale? But. Is it a Chris Sale sale? No, you're not selling. You should have a Chris sale.
Starting point is 00:51:52 But he does this sometimes. Like, right now he has five straight games with double-digit strikeouts. He had eight straight games with double-digit strikeouts in 2015, in which he had a 180 ERA, nine walks to 97 strikeouts and 60 innings. And he finished the year with a 341 ERA. Last year, Chris Sale had a 158 ERA in his first nine starts. Didn't have the same type of strikeout numbers. And Sale finished the year with a 334 ERA.
Starting point is 00:52:18 And I think last year he finished eighth at starting pitcher, which was his best finish ever. So right now he's unbelievable. He's the Salyong Award winner in either league. But, you know, do you think Chris Sails going to have his best year ever? Do you think he's just sailing right now and he'll come back and be like a 330 guy like he's been the last two years? I think there's a decent chance that Chris Sale has his best year ever. Partially because he's just already got this much of a head start, partially because of something that hasn't worked out for him yet, which is wins,
Starting point is 00:52:51 I expect that trend to reverse itself quickly. You know, you made reference to that eight straight starts with double-digit strikeouts in 2015 where he had a 341 ERA. Yeah. It was strange what happened to him at the end. of the year, end of that year to elevate the ERA to 341. It was
Starting point is 00:53:14 a period of where we were saying, what's wrong with Chris Aal? Yeah. And I feel like just peripherally he's always been a little short of what he should be. Like,
Starting point is 00:53:29 based on what his peripheral say he should be. And I can actually compare ERA to FIPP over the years and see if I'm... Oh, and his stuff. That really happened. That happened one year. The rest of them, he's been remarkably close. But it's weird that Chris Sale has never been a top five starting pitcher.
Starting point is 00:53:45 It is weird, yeah. I mean, I certainly think of him as having that kind of potential. Right. He is lacking the home runs so far. And at Finway, as a left-handed pitcher at Finway, you could see how he could have his worst year ever in the long run in terms of allowing home runs. So I do think there's, you know, I think it's just. too early to say. I wouldn't put it past him having his best year ever. And the bottom line is
Starting point is 00:54:14 there are so few pitchers you can trust on this level that even if you are expecting some fairly significant regression, his ERA rising two runs the rest of the way. Like, so you're leaving a big hole in your pitching staff. No, you don't tell them. All right, this is the worst rhyme I've ever come up with. Must own or to the waiver wire, they shall be shown. Sonny Gray, Jeremy Helixen, and Matt Shoemaker are all owned in about 85% of leagues. Are they must own or we'll be showing them to the waiver wire? Sunny Gray, Jeremy Helixen, Matt Shoemaker. I believe gray is worth owning right now.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I could live without Helixen or Shoemaker. I'm holding both Gray and Shoemaker. I could live without Helixen, which is unfair to Jeremy Hillockson. But that's the way we treat him. I mean, he's had one start this year where he's had more than two strikeouts. Yeah. How is that unfair? Mr. Strikeout?
Starting point is 00:55:14 How is that unfair, Mr. Strikeout? Because he's been good, you know? Oh, before this, he'd been phenomenal. Yeah, he had bad start. With two strikeouts to start, you knew that wasn't going to last, I'm right? Not against the Cubs. Sunny Gray had good velocity. He had a really bad stretch where he gave up three runs.
Starting point is 00:55:30 You know, he gave up a couple of home runs. It wasn't a great start, but let's give him a little bit of leeway here, first start off the DL for Gray. And do you have any interest in picking up Alex Cobb or Alex Wood actually? I have probably more interest than him. Alex's. Well, here's the thing about Wood. His stuff looks good. You know, his strikeouts are good.
Starting point is 00:55:51 But they still, he's not throwing deep into games. And I don't know that they trust him to do so. But you tell me. I don't think they really do. I'm not hugely, like any of the guys on that list, including Glassnow and Asher, well, really, it's glass-note Cobb and Wood. It's just dependent on who they're going to pitch against next week.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Okay. For me. I think Wood had a chance to really secure a spot in the rotation with this start, and I don't think he did. When they get Rich Hill back, they're going to be seven deep. I'm not sure if you saw the quote, but I think it was Dave Roberts said that he pitched better than the final line. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Well, we've heard Dave Roberts walk back quite a few things. Yeah, but if we're going to... You know, it wasn't that good after all when I went back and looked at it. But if we're going to say, you know, Matt Harvey, all the quotes after the game, then I think we should do it for Alex Wooden. Well, Dave Roberts is a chronic liar. That's what I'm... Chronic liar.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I love it. All right. Scott thinks that you should own Brad Brock because Zach Britton just has not been himself this year. He needs a Snickers, and he gave up a walk and a hit in a scoreless non-save situation innings. last night, Zach Brayton, and he's a 188 whip, so it's not a bad idea to have Brad Brock just in case. Is there anything else in the bullpen we need to talk about, or just, you know, there were some struggles last night,
Starting point is 00:57:18 but that happens. Well, I don't know exactly what's going on with the Cardinals' bullpen. Trevor Rosenthal got the saved last night. You have here in the notes Sun 1-0 through 25 pitches Monday. And that was two innings, too. It was a two-inning appearance. I don't think there's any way O was available last night. 25 pitches doesn't seem like a crazy high number,
Starting point is 00:57:37 especially since he had a couple days off before that. Yeah, that's kind of how I felt. But, you know, maybe just the fact that it was more than one inning. Also how I thought. Rosenthal's been striking out like two batters every time he pitches. Oh, he's nasty. He is nasty, and he's not walking guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I don't know if he'll be better in the long run, but he's clearly better right now, and I could see how Mathini would be hedging on this decision. So at least if I'm an O owner and I don't already have a lot of closer depth, I might be picking up Rosenthal for some security there. We're going to do some grade the trade to end the show. The problem is I didn't put it in the note, so I have to go sorting through the mailbox here.
Starting point is 00:58:23 So you guys take a little time and think about it. Jeremy in Seattle, grade the trade, give up Kyle Hendrix, get Christian Yellich. I will give that a B minus. Yeah, yeah, I like it. I'll say B. We've got a Dynasty League trade from Richard Punch. I'm pretty sure he's a former podcast league or longtime listener. He gave up in a 12-team 5-5 Dynasty League,
Starting point is 00:58:53 Gary Sanchez, Avi Garcia, and Michael Confordo. This is a little bit of a blockbuster here. He gave up Gary Sanchez. He has Wilson Contreras, by the way. Gary Sanchez, Avi Garcia, and Michael Conforto to get back Rick Porcelo and Aaron Judge. Oh, that's... Sorry, Richard. You got punched.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yeah. Yeah, that's... I'll go F, man. That's bad. I'm going to go for D. As much as I like Judge, you gave up three... What were the three players he was giving up again? Conforto, Avi Garcia, and Gary Sanchez.
Starting point is 00:59:34 No, I'm going to walk it back a little. It's D. Only one. I still value Sanchez more than Judge, but then the second and third players. Classic Dave Roberts move right there from Scott White. Yeah, I'm Dave Roberts. Chris is giving up Strasbourg and Aledmus Diaz. Strasbourg and Aledmus Diaz getting Bogarts and Rondone.
Starting point is 00:59:57 It's got to be, I don't know if it's Rendon or Rodon. It's a typo. Oh, geez. I think we should do that. I'm giving him an incomplete. It's not a good grade either way, honestly. It's another D. All right, last one here.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Maybe even a half. Give up Will Myers and Aaron Judge. Will Myers and Aaron? People trading Aaron Judge quite a bit, huh? Give up Myers and Judge in a 10-team league. Get Sino, Odor, and Abraeu. Sino, Odor, and Abrae. See, here's the problem.
Starting point is 01:00:27 If this was a 12-team league, I think I would like this trade. but in a 10 team league I'm not sure that Jose Abraeu is somebody you start Yeah but Odor He upgrades from Parraza to Odor with this trade That is in theory a very big upgrade Yeah no I think it's a good trade I like Judge more than you do
Starting point is 01:00:50 I think him and Sanoe I actually prefer Judge a little to Sano But I don't even know how much that matters Because of that second base upgrade So I would say I'll give that a B plus But you don't like Will Myers as much as I do. I think maybe the bigger sticking points.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I'm going with a C-plus C. Good stuff, guys. Thank you very much. And that's all I got. We'll talk to you tomorrow. We'll do some buy or sell. It'll be a ton of fun. Bye.

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