Fantasy Baseball Today - 05/08 Fantasy Baseball Podcast: Weekend Roundup

Episode Date: May 8, 2017

Plenty of hitting over the weekend and now it's time to decide if Aaron Altherr, Yonder Alonso, Marwin Gonzalez, Aaron Hicks and others are worth adding to your roster ... What's going on in the Tiger...s bullpen? Which pitchers are we excited about adding? Did you see what Billy Hamilton did last week!? ... Thoughts on Matt Harvey, Michael Fulmer, Luis Severino, Francisco Liriano, Sonny Gray and many more ... Email us at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 R.A. Dickey, Stephen Wright, Chris doesn't buy the hype of random number. Scott likes using jiffs the most. Adam loves E.R.A. and plays near Disneyland. We are done with week five. We welcome you to fantasy baseball today here on Monday morning, May 8th. Good morning, everybody. I'm Adam Azer with Heath Cummings and Scott White. And what do you guys think? I think that the main theme of the weekend, a lot of hitting.
Starting point is 00:00:43 There were a lot more hitters that really interested me than pitchers over the weekend. Agree or disagree? I don't know that I agree. Not outside of what had already been established as the norm for this season. I thought the theme of the weekend was me hating weekly fab again and just losing in week seven because of weekly fab and it's terrible. Week six or week seven? Well, all of them probably.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Why weekly fab? Who does weekly fab? Why? It makes no sense. Why doesn't it make sense? Because you get one opportunity on waivers. and if you don't, I put in claims for seven players last night. I got none of them.
Starting point is 00:01:26 And there's no second shot for the whole week. Why'd you only do seven? Why did I only do seven? We're only setting your lineup once a week anyway. Yeah. That's, that would, I'm glad I don't play it any weekly fast. Oh, it's infuriated. Was it just to fill one position you put in seven of outfielders or whatever?
Starting point is 00:01:44 Seven starting pitchers for one pitcher slot. Well, you got to throw, you got to throw a guy in there like a MacGar. Garza or something who you just know nobody's going to pick up. Hey, Matt Garza making some interesting adjustments. He's 4% owned, relying less on the fastball. They told Matt Garza, hey, Matt Garza, you should be throwing your off speed pitches a little bit more. And he has been. And wow, Matt Garza, now 7% or excuse me, has a 255-ERA, three walks, 15 strikeouts,
Starting point is 00:02:12 and 17 and 2 thirds. How about that? Matt Garza is the weekly fab of pitchers. All right, well, I have a trivia question for you guys to start the show. This is about a hitter, of course. Billy Hamilton scored more fantasy points in week five than Blank has scored the entire season. Let me read it again. Billy Hamilton has scored more fantasy points in week five than Blank has scored all season.
Starting point is 00:02:38 A. Chris Davis from Baltimore. B. Gregory Polanco. C. Todd Frazier. D. All of the above. A. Chris Davis. B. Gregory Polanco. So, C, Todd Frazier, D, all of the above. It's either all the above or Todd Frazier. I'm going to go all the above.
Starting point is 00:02:58 You are both wrong? It is A, Chris Davis, but very close to being all of the above. Billy Hamilton scored 59 fantasy points, I think. Oh, my God. He was insane. And, yeah, he's on a hundred steel pace now, I mean. Yeah, well, he's not just that. Like last week, Billy Hamilton batted 355 with a home run.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Two doubles and three triples, and also nine steals and ten attempts. He went nuts. Let's see what he went for in the weekly Fab League. I didn't bother to put in a claim for him because it's a three outfielder points league, and I don't need another outfielder. I don't either. But I'm curious. I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Well, yeah, well, right now, because last week I looked where Billy Hamilton was, and he was not even a top 40 outfielder in either format. Right now he's 10th and points in 6th in Roto. and you got a glimpse of what he can do for you when he's on. But let's not forget, before week five, Billy Hamilton was a total bust in fantasy. So what should the Billy Hamilton owner be doing right now? Well, obviously, this makes a big difference what your format is. It's roto, it's categories. I mean, you got him to carry you in stolen bases, and he's doing exactly that.
Starting point is 00:04:11 So I don't know that you do anything. Yeah, I'm at the point. I've got him in a couple different leagues, one categories and one Roto, and I'm trying to decide when to start him. Because I've built up a decent lead in steals, and he just kills me and everything else. And so I will probably, I'm not going to trade him away because I don't want somebody else to catch me in steals, but I'll probably be benching him occasionally. Is this a three outfielder league or a five outfielder league? You don't have cause to start Billy Hamilton every week in a five category. If you were ahead in the same league, in the six.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Steelers department, I don't know what the purpose is. Well, if you get... If you're built up by a big enough lead, then you could trade Billy Hamilton. Yeah, you could, but I'm not at that position. I just think turd-turd-turdly off the waiver wire is going to do better in every other category, except for stolen bases. Who? Turd-Turdly.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I put in a claim for Turd-Turdly, and I didn't have a high enough priority. All right, let's get into this show, guys. He went for $3 for those who were interested in this head-to-head points league where he was not already owned. That's crazy. And he had been on waiver since I dropped him, I think, after week one or two. I don't know, man. Like, Billy Hamilton, he doesn't have to hit that well to be really valuable in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:05:25 He just can't be terrible. And he was very good at the end of last season. A terrible month to start the year. I'm not, I don't know, that seems a little low. Here's the weekly point breakdown. 16, 15 and a half, 16, 5, 59. 59. I mean, you didn't really want to start him those first four weeks.
Starting point is 00:05:47 No, of course not. But I'm just saying, like, let's not give up on him after those four weeks. After these four years of not hitting? Yeah, I mean, got you. He stole his 200th base last week. Wow. And now has, which is exceptionally fast, has the second lowest OPS plus for any player in major league history with 200 steals. Here's how today's show is going to work.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I think the first half is mostly going to be hitters. with some pitchers in there, too. Guys, we really want to add. We'll mostly focus on who we want to add right now. Second half of the show will be a lot of pitchers. Interesting stats about Rick Porcelo and his strikeouts. Kyle Hendricks and his strikeouts. Danny Duffy and Dylan Bundy are basically the same person right now.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah, just pitchers J.C. Ramirez. Should we be picking him up? Should we? J.C. Ramirez? What do you think? No, not that interested. I would in that weekly Fab League if I could have one more crack at picking up a player. That's going to be a running theme of today's show, I guess.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So your stat of the day, number one, was about Billy Hamilton. I had an opportunity to put in a claim for him last night. Thad of the day number two is about Miguel Sanoe, who hit his fourth career triple against Boston this weekend. And I just thought it was interesting this little stat cast stat. I don't know if you saw the triple. And what was really most fantasy relevant about it was it led to two runs off at Warder Rodriguez. And it really should have been an out. And Rodriguez should have given up one run.
Starting point is 00:07:12 in like six innings. But it was an RBI triple. Miguel Sinoe scored on the next batter's base hit. But according to Statcast, the ball that Miguel Sinoe hit with that exit velocity and that launch angle, a ball hit with similar exit velocity and launch angle, has a 1% chance of being a hit. And he got a triple off of it.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I just thought that was kind of cool for you nerds out there. All right, let's get on with it. Atometer, zero to 10. Zero, no way. I don't want him at all. 10. Add him right now. Justin Wilson, 28% owned Tigers reliever Justin Wilson.
Starting point is 00:07:48 My guess is he gets the Tigers next save after Krod blew one both Saturday and Sunday and has an ERA approaching 9 a whip over 2. But I don't think I could go full 10 because, you know, I dropped Matt Bush in a couple of leagues this week. I think he's only like 60% owned. You know, Brad Brock, who's now back closing for the Orioles, was Zach Britton going back on the deal. He's not universally owned. It just would depend on how scarce saves are in your league.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Obviously, if anybody who gets saves his own, Wilson's a 10 in that format. Six. Yeah. I'll go like a 7. Aaron Altair, 23% owned. Aaron Altair. 6.5. I'll go like a 5.
Starting point is 00:08:35 338, 4 home runs, 3 steals in only 65. of Bats, OPS over 1,000 for Altair. Yeah. All right. I mean, it's very Conforto-like, I guess, what he's doing. And when Conforto was doing this, it's like, well, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:08:52 They'll figure out some way to keep them in the lineup when everybody's healthy. So maybe it's not fair for me to say when Howie Kendrick gets back, Altair's just going to the bench. I think they were pretty clear at the beginning of the year. There was no guarantee given to Kendrick or Saunders for playing time. They were kind of placeholders,
Starting point is 00:09:08 and hoping that a young player would come up and take their job. And Altaire's done it. Five outfielder leagues, I think I'd definitely pick up Altaire. Tommy Fam, 4% owned. He has three home runs and a double over the weekend after being called up when Piscotti went on the DL. Tommy Fam, guys, 0 to 10. Why, it be like a 3?
Starting point is 00:09:30 It have to be a pretty deep league. I don't trust that he's going to be getting playing time for long. Okay, so not feeling it with fam so much? Yeah, it's good power. Yeah. Mike Clevenger of the Cleveland Indians, five and two-thirds, one hit, no runs, four walks, five strikeouts at Kansas City. Tor it up in the minor leagues before coming up. He's replacing Cluber for now.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Clevenger is 8% owned, 0 to 10 on Mike Clevenger. I don't really think he's going to stay in the rotation. But if you need somebody for this week, like if you didn't get any pictures on Fab and you're just trying to find somebody on Monday, Two. You can't, if your league uses FAB, you can't pick up a pitcher on Monday. You can only can Monday night. Adam is free agency open in the editorial league? Free agency is wide open in the editorial league.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Thank you very much. All right. So you got some league with weird, goofy rules where the commissioner turns off, changes the transaction setting on Monday morning. There are also other sites where you have FAB followed by free agency. Yes, that is true. I give Clevenger a four. I want us to pick him up in the 16-team categories league, but we don't have a roster spot for him. So he will remain unowned until somebody listens to this podcast.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Our last place team is just way too good for Mike Clevenger. We're coming back, by the way, Team Scam. Yohan Moncada, Yon Moncada having a nice little minor league season right now. Zero to ten for Moncada? Three? Four? Four is fine. Yeah. I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:08 The problem with Mankata is every team that I have has not only the DL spots full, but two guys I don't want to drop that are on the disabled list on my roster right now. So it's hard to have a stash spot for a minor league guy too. He's 75% owned already, so I don't know. Wow. I think people are expected, I don't know. It's like they're reading the T leaves and getting a little hype here on Munkata. I don't know if that's justified or not, but he's tearing it up, right?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah, I mean, striking out too much, but. So was Cody Bellinger. So was Cody Bellinger, the second best hitter of Week 5 behind, Billy Hamilton. Marvin Gonzalez, I believe, is the most added player he is. Most added player in our leagues. Gonzalez is now 59% owned up from 8% last week. Zero to 10 on Marvin Gonzalez, who, by the way, is day-to-day with a sore foot. I think I'd go like five here.
Starting point is 00:12:02 You know, it's probably only those leagues where, like, 350 players or more are rostered. but so versatile I think that helps in those formats Yeah, I'll say a four, I just haven't, I I don't know who I'm dropping to pick up more when Gonzalez. Well, Gonzalez is eligible at first base, third base, corner
Starting point is 00:12:21 infield, middle infield, outfield, and one game away from second base eligibility. Yonder Alonzo, 40% owned 311 batting average, nine home runs, 11 walks, 22 strikeouts, and he is facing six right-handed pitchers
Starting point is 00:12:37 this week. None of them particularly good. So, yeah, 40% own Yonder Alonzo. Yeah, this was the player who really got my attention Saturday night with his two-hombered game, brought him up to eight. He'd then homered again Sunday for nine. But Saturday nights, when I tweeted out, it's time. We liked some of the underlying numbers for Alonzo. He was one of the players who was most vocal about changing his approach for
Starting point is 00:13:08 more fly balls and it's translated to this power potential that he was thought to have way back when he was a top prospect in the Reds organization like a decade ago. And he's shown he hasn't walked so much this year, but he's shown that in the past. So I think it's not long before he's playing every day. And I don't want to miss the boat on him like I did on Eric Thames. So for me, it's like an eight. Yeah, I'll say the same thing. I think I said a six on Altair. And I'd say the same thing. I'd probably rather start Alonzo this week because Altaire's got the wrist issue and he's got six righties. But for the rest of the year, I feel like the same about both of them. Yonder Alonzo, so I get a text from Scott White 1221 in the morning, Saturday night, Sunday morning.
Starting point is 00:13:53 We need to pick up Alonzo now, all caps. And Scott went ahead and didn't add drop without my confirmation. I was, I don't know if I was asleep or not, but I think I was. Is it okay that I texted you at 1220 because I debated not doing it? Oh, of course. Adam's a young, lively. I'm usually awake. Not married guy yet. Yeah, I'm usually awake.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Chris and I don't text each other. We just make random ads and drops without even discussing it. We would, there would be fisticuffs if Adam and I did that, I think. Well, you just did it. Well, luckily we had Bartolo Colon, who is quite droppable. Oh, that makes it easy. Yeah, yeah. But now we can't pick up Clevenger.
Starting point is 00:14:32 It's just fine. I'd much rather have Alonzo. Teams too good. Aaron Hicks, 37% owned. Last guy in the Adel meter here. Aaron Hicks is 37% owned. 338 batting average, six home runs, more walks and strikeouts, five steals. He's having his best season by far.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Aaron Hicks, zero to ten. I'll go with a five, just slightly below Alonzo and Altaire. I feel less confident about Hicks getting regular playing time for the rest of the year. He has been phenomenal so far, but really his production is right about in line with those two. all three of them with an OPS over a thousand. I guess his is a little bit higher. I go four. I mean, Ellsbury got back in the lineup yesterday.
Starting point is 00:15:13 There just isn't a spot for him. I mean, Ellsbury's been better than expected. Gardner's been better than expected. Judge certainly has. I would argue Holiday has, too. Well, I would just say the Yankees. You could just say the Yankees. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And in case you're wondering, middle of the 15th inning is when I turned the game off last night. So they went 18 innings. I should have texted you then. Yeah, I'm sure you were all wondering. But I am quite tired now. I got a few emails. This is not going to be relevant to a lot of people, but I got a couple of emails. Hey, somebody dropped Mark Trumbo, should I pick him up?
Starting point is 00:15:46 Somebody dropped Carlos Gonzalez, should I pick him up? And I would say that there's very few players who were drafted in like the first eight rounds or so of a 12-team league that I'm not picking up right now if they were dropped. So the answer is absolutely yes to those two guys. However, somebody dropped Jose Batista in our three outfielder points league, and Batista is just, he has like 13 strikeouts in his last seven games. He's batting well under 200 right now. I still think I might put in a claim for him, but he might be the one guy, and I'm sure just sticking off top of my head, the one healthy guy that the highest draft pick that I might not pick up if he were dropped right now. The only one I could think of in a points league that was taken ahead of him, and I'm sure everybody will disagree. Dallas, Kygo, you wouldn't pick up, Kylo.
Starting point is 00:16:36 No, Jonathan VR. Oh, no, I would just because of shortstop, I'd pick him up. He's been so bad. He's got seven steals, though, or something. Right, that's why I said in a points league. In a Roto league, there's no way. But in a points league, I might. Eric Hosmer was dropped the same night.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Batista was dropped, which, you know, he wasn't drafted as early as Batista, but both raised an eyebrow. For me. Sure. There was another situation, and again, this guy wasn't as highly drafted as Batista, but not far off. Jackie Bradley was dropped in a league of similar depth. The league where 250 players are rostered, not counting DL spots. Jackie Bradley sat each of the last two games for Chris Young. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Yeah, I'm not putting in a claim for Bradley in that league. And again, it's on the shallower side of mixed leagues, but I can't justify. by dropping even like an Avi Sal Garcia for him right now. Gosh, Bradley, like it depends on your record, I think, a little bit here. Because, like, in one league I dropped, let's talk about who we added and dropped
Starting point is 00:17:37 who we're excited about right now. I dropped Byron Buxden for Brett Gardner. And that's a league on two and three. And that's our podcast league. And I can't afford to just, like, I really want Buckson on my team. I think he showed some signs last week. He's back from the minor injury.
Starting point is 00:17:53 And I really want him. I think he could still have a big year. I'm not giving up, but I got to win. And Scott, Brett Gardner was one of the hitters in your sleeper hitters column. He's hitting very well right now. He's a streaky guy himself. So if you're playing just like day to day, then maybe you don't want Jackie Bradley on your team in a shallow league. In fact, I'm sitting in a five out of the league.
Starting point is 00:18:14 But Jackie Bradley has been one of the streakiest hitters over the last couple of years. And when he gets hot, he gets like, he's like Carlos Gonzalez. These guys go on ridiculous tears. So I would, in a vacuum, I would pick up Jackie Bradley if he were dropped. I would too in a vacuum, but in the league where I actually have to make the decision, I'm surprised. I feel like I can't. Okay. All right, let's talk about who'd you guys add and drop, like your favorite ads and drops?
Starting point is 00:18:47 Tell me about it. Heath Cummings. I wasn't able to add anyone because Weekly Fab is a terrible system. Drop the league. But you've got other leagues, Heath. Yeah, but I don't make my ads and drops generally on Sunday for those other leagues. Okay, you have Friday and Saturday. We haven't spoken in three days.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I generally make them on Thursday. And then if I don't get the guys I want, I try to make them on Saturday because I know that's when Scott's going to be doing his. So, okay, I'm going to go to the transactions page and just tell you who you've added Heath. You added Trevor Cahill in our Roto League. There you go. Yeah, that was a big one for me. Yeah. Got Trevor Cahill.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I added two-start and eight Carnes, I believe, in one league. I don't know that I made any offensive additions. It wasn't a busy, it wasn't a very active week for me. Cahill was a big one. He has two starts now, and this relief pitcher eligible, good strikeout rate. Are you guys buying this from Trevor Cahill? Boy, has he been a bad pitcher? I was buying him.
Starting point is 00:19:49 You know, I put in one league, I put in a claim for him even before finding. out it was going to be a two-star week. So that wasn't the only reason I was adding him. But yeah, he's emphasizing his breaking ball a lot more, which is his best swing and miss pitch. Oh, but it does. But for Matt Garza, nobody cares when Matt Garza does it with Trevor Cahill. Well, Matt Garza has made a total of three starts, right? Yeah. So, you know, maybe by the time he gets up to Cahill's number, if he's still putting up these kinds of numbers, then I'll have to buy into him at the same extent. And I think you can afford to wait that long because of, you know, obviously there's a pretty negative track record
Starting point is 00:20:27 there, at least in recent years. Eduardo Rodriguez, I picked up wherever he was still available because I like what he's doing with the strikeout rate. And in deeper leagues, leagues where you're seeing what's on the waiver wire at starting pitcher and you feel like it's just going to hold you back in ERA and whip. Anthony Swarzak, I made a claim for him in a couple of leagues. talked about Tommy Conley last week, and Swarzak's another pitcher breaking out in the White Sox Bullpen. I think he's allowed a total of two hits this year with well more than a strikeout
Starting point is 00:21:01 per inning. You'd love those White Sox middle relievers. You know what? I was thinking about this. I was thinking about how we've been, you know, we've been whining about starting pitching, rightfully so. I think I'm going to have to start looking at middle relievers in some of it. Yeah, absolutely. Now, one of the leagues I picked him up in was Tout Wars, which is 15 team roto, which is deeper than we're used to. But that's absolutely what I'm finding there. Do I really want to start Jordan Zimmerman? Or do I want to actually help my ERA?
Starting point is 00:21:31 See, I'm in the exact opposite situation in almost all of our Roto leagues. I'm not winning any of my four, but I'm in the top three or four in all of them. And I am crushing it in ERA and WIP and need some strikeouts and quality starts and wins. So I'm starting worse starting pitchers than I'm used to because I drafted a bunch of relief. and middle relievers at the start of the year. So I'm trying to catch up in the other direction. That's why I'm picking up Trevor Cahill. Which is easier to catch up in?
Starting point is 00:21:59 We're going to find out. Yeah. Actually, Scott, Heath and Chris are top three in our auction league right now. And let's not really, we don't need to talk about. We've kind of been going back and forth. Yeah. It's going to be a good battle. Yeah, I'll, you know, I'll be. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:22:14 Not well. This is the worst I've ever done in this league. And getting better. Getting better. You know, we're getting there. Right, it's a long season. Wow. A rare moment of consolation from Heath there.
Starting point is 00:22:30 What do you mean? Trying to make you feel better. Yeah, I know. Who is this guy? I'm always that way. I did pick up Lance Lynn in another league. He was still available in a 10-team league that I had, and I don't have any idea why. I picked up Jason Hamill, guys. He pitched exclusively out of the stretch in his last start.
Starting point is 00:22:45 He's 23% owned. I don't know. And then I saw Heath picked him up in our 16th. team league and I wish we had jumped on that. And I'm not saying I'm throwing in my starting lineup, but Hamill, great start against the Indians. If we couldn't make a spot for Clevenger, we're not making
Starting point is 00:23:00 a spot for Hamill. Are you serious? What? Are you serious right now? What are you talking about? Mike Clevenger. Who would we drop for Hamill? I mean, I would drop Clevenger for Hamill if I had to. Well, we don't have Clevenger. But you just made it out like you would rather have Clevenger than Hamel. I think
Starting point is 00:23:14 I think that's similar. I think Mike Clevenger had like a 550 ERA last year, has had basically one good start in the major leagues. What does Hamill have this year? And what did he have in the second half last year? Okay, but it's like two or three years in a row where Jason Hamill's had a great first half.
Starting point is 00:23:30 All right, fair enough. And a rotation spot, by the way. Jordan Zimmerman is the example of a guy I'm studying Swarzak over. Jason Hamill's another one on that Tout Wars team who I'm just not starting. I agree. Not starting Jason Hamill, but he made the adjustment. Is he at Tampa this week in his only start, though? Yeah, it might be.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I think I might have to start him. Yeah, I might have to. I don't know. All right, let's take a look at the most added list here. And Marba Gonzalez is number one. A.J. Gryffindor is number two. Anybody want A.J. Griffin? No, not really. No, I'd rather have Hamel.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I'd rather have... Derek Holland? Clevenger. You know, I might... Definitely Derek Holland. Derek Holland was a player who I put in several claims for and didn't win him in any league. Okay. He's a one-star pitcher, Derek Holland. Except...
Starting point is 00:24:18 I put in some midweek claims. so I haven't in a couple leagues. If I bring up again, I own Derek Holland. That's why. I don't know if I'd rather have Griffin or Clevenger. That's a tough one. But I don't have either one, so it doesn't matter. Matt Andres is a tricky one for me because he's got two starts this week, Kansas City
Starting point is 00:24:34 at home at Boston. So I definitely am going to start him as a relief pitcher this week in a points league. But in the Roto League that I own him in, like, that Boston start scares me a little bit. They certainly came alive over the weekend. but Kansas City at home could be a very good start. So that's a tough one. Yeah, I think in Roto, that totally depends on whether you are in Scott's situation with pitching or my situation with pitching. Because if you need wins, you need quality starts, then he's, yeah, I don't think he's going to kill you in ERA this week.
Starting point is 00:25:06 All right, that's Matt Andrews. Next on the most added list. He's fourth, by the way. Charlie Borton is fifth. Alex Wood is sixth. Trevor Cahill is seventh. So it is just Marvin Gonzalez and then six pitchers. the top seven right now.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And a lot of them are two star guys. That happens. Alex DeVila, go ahead, Scott. I think all those pictures you just named, I like more than Andres. Not that I think Andres is a bad choice, depending on your circumstances, if you do need just some respectable innings. But I would rather have Morton Wood, Cahill. Holland. Holland was before him.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Morton? You said Morton, yeah. Yeah, definitely more. Morton, I think, regardless of two-star status, should be owned. And then we've got Alex Avila, Yonder Alonzo, Cody Bellinger's, 91% owned, Aaron Hicks, J.C. Ramirez, Hector Santiago, 61% owned. How does Hector Santiago rate with Morton, Holland, Andreseus, Wood, Cahill? He's right in the middle of that group.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I mean, I... He's closer to Griffin for me. I don't... We've seen... All of those pitchers are going to get dropped. I'm sorry to say. But they're all... You hope they have a good story.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Kay Hill's going to get dropped. Holland's going to get dropped. I don't know about those. Is that a controversial take? I don't know that it's controversial. I'm just surprised to hear you say it because of the lack of alternatives at starting pitcher on the waiver wire. Yeah, I think most of these guys, though, that have gotten hurt are going to come back.
Starting point is 00:26:36 There's been no very few season ending injuries. I mean, Morton's had two really good strikeout starts in a row and, you know, underlying reasons to support it. Cahill has one of the best swinging strike rates in baseball. And then Derek Holland, I mean, it's been a while since we've seen him be, you know, a mainstay in fantasy. But before he tripped over his dog on the stairs two or three years ago and had knee surgery, that's what he was. I mean, he was 20015 inning pitcher, mid-3 ZRA. It feels kind of like the quarterback situation in the NFL draft the past two years, where there's not really been a first round draft pick of a quarterback, but because there's no first round draft pick of a quarterback, the second and third round guys, everybody's trading up to take them in the first round.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And yes, the situation's really bad at starting pitcher. All these guys should be picked up and owned and used right now. I just don't want to get the illusion that I think that they've transformed themselves at 29, 30 years old into. must own starting pitchers once everybody else comes back? I think Morton and Kayhill potentially have. Okay. And Holland, I think... I'm not as convinced of him, but I do think you write it out right now.
Starting point is 00:27:52 You just look at Holland last year. First half of the season, he was pretty reliable, but he had a two-start stretch where he gave up like 14 earned runs. And, you know, he got blasted for like nine runs and an inning in two-thirds. Other than that, he was basically throwing a quality start, Derek Holland, most of the time out. Then he got hurt, and then he struggled. And right now he has a 202 ERA, and he's 70% owned. But there's one guy on the most added list that is owned in a similar amount of league
Starting point is 00:28:18 is that I personally think is the clear-cut winner, and that would be Eduardo Rodriguez. He is 78% owned. I would take it Eduardo Rodriguez over any of these guys. I agree with that. I will agree with that as well. Okay. All right, guys, we got to talk about a lot of injuries, bullpen stuff. What's going on in the Nationals Bullpen?
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Starting point is 00:30:01 And Harper, since he had missed, what, three or four games, I was leaning towards sitting, but I just read earlier this morning that Dusty Baker, hopeful, I guess, expecting he'll be back in the lineup Monday. And Braun, what I'm really hoping for on the teams where I have Braun, is that I have another outfielder that is off today. Because I feel like if he's in the lineup on Tuesday, I'm playing him, but we're not going to know until then. If I am a situation where all of the rest of my outfielers play on Monday,
Starting point is 00:30:31 I'm sitting, Braun, but if I can wait until Tuesday, I expect that I'm going to play him. Apparently, they're not talking like it's a DELston or anything like that, a couple of days, but they'll probably be cautious with him. And, you know, I could certainly see Brantley missing at least three days. And you know how easily a couple days turns into a DL stint when it's only 10 days? What about Brian Dozier and Ian Kinsler? I plan to sit both.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I mean, the 10-day DL, I think, unless it's obviously a league where you're setting lineups daily, you have to err on the side of caution, I feel like. Kinsler is not expected to play Tuesday, right? He's not expected to go on the deal. Well, Kinsler has a sunnier outlook than Dozier for sure. Basically, the way I'm handling all these guys, well, not Harper and Scheld. But the rest of them is if they are in the lineup for their first game of the week, I'm playing them. If they're not, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Sure. That's fair. Well, Kinsler's games not until Tuesday, so you've got to hope that you've got somebody that you can maneuver around. Yeah. Now, let's talk about Matt Harvey. Matt Harvey suspended for three games for repeated issues dating back to last season, according to the New York Daily News. Also, he did not show up for work on Saturday because he apparently had a migraine after a golf outing. Scott wants to buy, buy, buy, buy low on Matt Harvey.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I've had many, many migraines after golf outings. They often come from dehydration due to being out in the sun and consuming beverages. Right. I'm saying that's what Matt Harvey was doing. He doesn't look like the type of guy that would spend a long day on the other horses. All right. Let's not. Let's not. Sid you wait here. I'm not buying, obviously.
Starting point is 00:32:18 You're not buying Harvey? No. What reason do I have to? Well, does this change anything? He's throwing hard. He's consistently throwing harder, yes. Let me ask this. And now he's basically all the way back.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Let me ask this. Yes. Does this change, this suspension? Because I could have asked you, last week before this, Heath, are you buying low on Harvey? You would have said no. Does this change anything for either of you? Are you still at your previously held opinion of Matt Harvey? Do we know when he's starting this week yet?
Starting point is 00:32:48 Did they just skip his turn in the rotation? Because it could change whether I'm starting him this week. Yeah, I don't know that I start him in a one-star week anyway. But no, I mean, thinking long-term, I think they probably took appropriate disciplinary action and then they move forward from here. I don't think it's going to lead to more... I think it will more likely... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Why would it change it, I guess, is what I'm struggling with. The team... I guess you're worried about his standing on the team if he continues to post a 5-ERA and piss off management? If he continues to, but what reason do we have to believe this won't address the issue? His ERA is so inflated by the completely unfair start that he had to make when he was notified. Either that or it's held down by his 236 Babbip.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I'm with Scott in the camp that Harvey was pitching well enough to be optimistic, but I'm sort of with Heath that this does change things a little bit from me. I'm worried about him like going in the tank, not working hard. He's filing a grievance against the team for his suspension. I just don't know what's next for Matt Harvey. This is a toxic situation, and this team has not handled their diva starting pitchers very well. Him and Cinderguard, neither of them have really approached things the right way, and the Mets just, they've bungled this, but whatever. Listen, I don't know that I can convince anybody this isn't a big deal.
Starting point is 00:34:24 I hope everyone thinks it's a huge deal, because it makes it even easier to get them in a trade. So far, I've been unsuccessful in my many attempts to buy low on that. Harvey, which gives you some indication of what people are really thinking about him. What are some of these offers that you've made? Like, how low are you trying to buy? Well, I wouldn't give up Harvey for Clevenger. Well, no. I offered Puegg straight up for him in a league where a guy had really bad offense, especially
Starting point is 00:34:51 Alfield. He was starting an injured guy in the outfield. Yeah. That's a nice trade offer. I'm not sure if Pueg fixes really bad offense. No, but people are probably thinking, well, I don't know that Harvey's that good to beginning. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:03 I think that's a great offer. I think that's a sell low by low. I don't know why, I mean, okay, Pueg's been, please's been all right this year. Not the last couple weeks, but. It's mostly week one, but yeah, I mean, it's just like, well, here's the thing about Pueg. It's like, we talk about all these hitters that are doing so well.
Starting point is 00:35:21 We gave them like a five on the Atometer. You know, Pueg is fairly replaceable just based on outfield. Harvey is still somebody I really want on my roster, and nobody's even coming close to dropping that Harvey. So I do totally get Scott's point about him being a buy low. Yes, I agree with Scott's take that if you want to buy low, this could help you buy him lower. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:43 James Paxton's on the DL. It happened on Friday. It's a forearm strain. Is there any time frame for James Paxton? They said they were hoping T.O.M.S. 2 starts? That's all we're getting is a hope at this point, I think. Okay, dokey. Aaron Sanchez could be back this weekend.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Amir Garrett was sent to AAA. He could be back pretty soon, though, right? Yeah, it was to, they said it's to limit his innings because they have a couple off days coming up so they can skip him at least one turn. I mean, he's going to throw a little in the miners. He has to stay game-ready. So I don't know how much it really helps his abilities
Starting point is 00:36:23 to last deeper into the season, but I wouldn't necessarily drop Garrett based on this news. Pollock apparently is going to play between 130 and 140 games. He has actually played 31 of 33 games, but at least three of them were pinch hits, pinch hit appearances. So I think Pollock has started 28 of 33 games, and I wonder if that 130 to 140 thing means that we should try to trade AJ Pollock. I think the 130 to 140 thing means starts, and he will probably play in 150.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Yeah, but the starts are really what matters. Like, I don't care about a guy getting won at bat. Better than none. It does. It's a lot better than a guy playing 130 in the American League. Oh, okay, I guess. I mean, but they said it about Schwarber, and that seems to be total garbage, but they appear to be really limiting A.J. Pollock.
Starting point is 00:37:21 All right, you know what? You've got the information. Do with it what you will. And David Price could make his 2017 debut by the end of the month, at which point Heath Cummings' fantasy baseball season will officially begin. I'm probably going to try to sell David Price in at least one league today. You've got some positive news coming out about him. A couple of my David Bryce teams are off to very, very slow starts, and I'm not sure I'm still going to be in it by the end of the month.
Starting point is 00:37:44 All right. In the bullpen, Coda Glover could come off the DL soon, and Sean Kelly is on the deal with a back injury. What is your take on the Nationals bullpen, guys, real quick? They need to hurry up and trade for somebody. Matt Albers got the save this weekend, right? on Friday. So, I guess he's in the lead there. I mean, I'd rather have Justin Wilson to go back to the start of the podcast. But would you rather have Cota Glover?
Starting point is 00:38:12 Probably. I don't think I would. Too many question marks there. And I don't think Sean Kelly's, like, this is a long-term D.L. Stent for him. He had already missed a lot of time with an illness before that. I'd rather have Santiago Cascia. I ask you if you'd rather have Cota Glover. meant Cota Glover or Justin Glover, not Cota Glover, Matt Albers.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Justin Wilson over Cota Glover. Yes, yes. Zach Britton back on the deal with the same forearm injury. There's no structural damage. Brad Brock got the saves on Friday and Sunday. Darren O'Day got the save on Saturday, but we should definitely be thinking that Brock is going to get most, if not all, the saves while Britain is down, which hopefully, I mean, I'll take a month at this point, but it doesn't look like it's a season-ending thing,
Starting point is 00:38:56 but you definitely want Brock on your team. Yep. All righty, let's talk about pitchers. I think it's time. Studs being studs. Jonathan Quato, I think at least we can be relieved that the blister wasn't a huge issue. He did just fine at Cincinnati yesterday. Quato gave up four runs, but two earned in seven innings with ten strikeouts.
Starting point is 00:39:20 John Lester had a really nice start. I'm not sure if it was his best of the season, but it had to be up there against the Yankees, seven innings, three hits, two runs, one earned. and nine strikeouts. I'm putting Dallas Kiko in Studs being studs, even though he gave up five runs, because he gave up, I think, two runs on four hits through eight innings. They came out for the ninth,
Starting point is 00:39:39 and he got roughed up a little bit. I still think just fine and dandy Dallas Kichel. Yeah, there were three, like, bleeder-type singles, and he left with the bases loaded, and then all the inherited runner scored. He's the best. Sy Young. Michael Fulmer is off to a really good start, guys.
Starting point is 00:39:57 3-1, 27-E-R-A, 11 walks, 35 strikeouts, and 39 innings. And this is actually, this start is making his overall season numbers look a little bit better, but Fulmer's been very reliable. Quality start every time. Yeah, but I think a lot of them were like, maybe two or three were six-innings, three runs. This one really was really good goal. But how many pitchers can honestly say they've thrown a quality start every time, very few. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Fulmer's been certainly worth the price. And Rick Porcelo, last four starts. Porcellos is actually one in three, but he has a 169 ERA, five walks and 27 strikeouts in 26 and two-thirds. And the strikeouts really jump out of you. But I will say, first seven starts of 2016, he had a strikeout per inning, which is exactly, well, he's a little bit of better than that through seven starts this year. But I said, Quato, Lester, Kiko, Fulmer, Porcelo, any comments, fellas?
Starting point is 00:40:54 Not really. I was glad to see Lester have a good outing against the Yankees, who are obviously the best offensive team in baseball. I've been encouraged and moved Fulmer up quite a bit this year, partially because the guys that have fallen behind him, but just partially because I was afraid he was really going to struggle in his second year, and he's acquitted himself very nicely. I think Cueto right now, or not Quoedo,
Starting point is 00:41:22 Fulmer right now feels like Jose Cantana. Yeah. I think he's in that same range. Who would you rather own? Probably former. I didn't have a chance to check because that game ended so late last night. It looks like John Lester, whose velocity had been down a couple miles per hour this year. Looks like it was pretty much back to normal in this last start, which... Like 92? Did you see the tweet over the weekend about...
Starting point is 00:41:53 And I'm going to butcher this. I'm not going to find it. I'm sure. But if park factor's velocity? No. I kind of had gotten to the point to where I thought the whole hot gun thing, we'd move past that in measuring pitcher velocity. Apparently not at all. There has been a wide range, and I say wide range.
Starting point is 00:42:19 We're talking one and a half, two miles per hour. So velocity means nothing. I'm not saying velocity means nothing. I'm saying in a situation where we're talking about velocity in one start. Yeah. I don't know how many things I have to cross-reference here before I know what it really means. I just go to Brooks baseball every time, and I'm hoping that they have the same source year after year after year. But they don't have the same gun in each stadium.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Yeah. There are a lot of inconsistencies with velocity readings, which is I'm going to try to find it, and I'm going to speak intelligently about it. tomorrow or at least point you in the direction of someone that can. Okay, so Lester's velocity was still down in this start from last year, but it was better than it's been for most of this year. All right. Yeah, he pitched really well. Absolutely perfect command yesterday.
Starting point is 00:43:14 For struggle in the first inning, but then was great. Luis Severino, Studs being Studs Part 2. Severino and Paneda had good starts at the Cubs. Michael Waka has just been really steady. He's got a 319 ERA. He's not throwing a lot of pitches, and he hasn't pitched into the – I think he's got like one start into the seventh, but mostly six innings for Waka. Odarezi had a great start against Toronto.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Jason Vargas, another good one against Cleveland, and Lance Lynn. Four and one with a 204 ERA. I think we've talked enough about him, but Severino, Paneda, Waka, Odarezi, Vargas, Lance Lynn. How many of these six pitchers are must starts for you? I'll read them again. Severino, Panetta. Waka, Odarezi Vargas, Lynn. Vargas isn't.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And I don't know that I'm willing to say Oterizzi is. I don't know. I'm still a little undecided about Paneda. Look, the only one I would say for sure is must-start is Severino. But I think with the way my pitching depth works looks in a lot of leagues as somebody who maybe paid more for pitching than other people did, it would be hard to sit most of these pitchers. Yeah, I'd say Severino, Paneda, Waka, and Lynn are pretty close to must-starts.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Nothing's universal. And then Odarezi and Vargas are just, like, you're probably still starting them. But, like, on the subject of Waka, Odorizzi, and Lynn specifically, the way specifically that pitching seems to have changed this year, in terms of pitchers getting pulled earlier, not pitching as deep into games. There does seem to be...
Starting point is 00:45:02 Those seem more valuable. All three of them, Waka Oterizzi and Lynn, seem more valuable than they were going to be at the start of the year when we were going a little heavier after upside. They don't have the upside of a Paneda or even like a Blake Snell, but obviously you feel much more comfortable playing
Starting point is 00:45:21 than the snells of the world than other pitchers who have upside but haven't delivered anything in the way of consistency. There's no way I'm sitting Walker or Lynn or Panetta at this point. You know, Paneda is baffling to me. He looks like Panetta, five walks, 43 strikeouts, and 34 and two-thirds. And I think he's very similar to Severino. I just think Severino has a better change-up, but neither of them really throw it that much. but I guess I'm definitely buying Severino. I mean, Severino, as hard of a thrower as Panetta is,
Starting point is 00:45:57 Severino is probably now that Cindergards down, he might be the hardest throwing starting pitcher. He's throwing 100 miles per hour last night. Rebounding from his one shaky start and then doing this against the Cubs. Yeah. Like I was saying we've seen one and a half pitching breakouts guys who we really consider high end now,
Starting point is 00:46:18 and I was counting Severino as the half, I think he's now a full-fledged breakout. I'm still a touch worried about the Arsenal. I think it's a little concerning to me. He's mostly a two-pitch pitcher, but the change-up is not bad for him. Heath, would you rather have David Price or Luis Severino? Price, for sure.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Okay, you wouldn't take Severino then. I would not take Severino for a price. Now, like, if I'm one in four, then there's a chance that I'm trying to work something out there because I don't know if I can wait much longer. Send me your price offer, see if. Price is absolutely a pitcher
Starting point is 00:46:57 who I would want to buy on right now because that caliber of pitch, well, I don't have, I don't have Separino in that many of them. I would rather trade non-pitchers for price. The whole purpose of trading price is because you don't have enough pitching right now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:15 But we will make some. Offers. Okay. All right. So, Studs being duds, Julio Taran has a 9.093 ERA on the road in three starts. 814 at home. Is this a product of Atlanta's new ballpark, or is this just fluky? Julio Taran has been terrible in four home starts. It's probably at least a little a product of the ballpark. It's, he's a pitcher whose profile would make him vulnerable to hitter's parks. And it looks like a hitter. hitters park, but it shouldn't be that extreme. Is the hitters park, like the hitters park thing's kind of weird because it hasn't really been a home run park yet, right? I don't know. Last I saw, and it was from Dave O'Brien.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Yeah. He had tweeted out that home runs in Atlanta were actually below league average, but offense was well above, which is kind of weird. Yeah. I think I just wonder exactly how he determined that Well they have one home run hitter on their team
Starting point is 00:48:22 I guess they have two Yeah I wonder how much he was adjusting for Right Like I don't know if this was just him Simply taking inventory of number of home runs Hit at that park And at a time maybe when not as many games were played I don't know I don't know what exactly
Starting point is 00:48:36 It was a home run rate Okay The number he was looking at so All right well look what are we thinking about Tehran Is he a bi-low candidate or are you staying away? It'd have to be pretty low. Okay. Toron or Harvey?
Starting point is 00:48:50 Toronto, for sure. I think I'd rather have Harvey. I think there's more to get excited about with Harvey. Other guys who struggled this weekend and are owned in more than 80% of leagues. Irvin Santana, Danny Salazar, Sunny Gray, Jose Cantana, Marco Estrada, Vince Velasquez. Irvin Santana, Danny Sauer, Sunny Gray, Jose Cantana, Marco Estrada, and Vince Velasquez. It's a different tier of pitcher there. So with Vince Velazquez and Sunny Gray, are they dropable for like Matt Andrice or Derek Holland or something like that?
Starting point is 00:49:29 I'm not. I'm not. Gray, maybe, but Velazquez, there are some encouraging underlying signs here. I mean, yes, he gave up six runs in this start this weekend, but eight strikes. to zero walks against the nationals. And the walks have been better the last few starts overall. He still hasn't put it all together and delivered that start that makes you feel like you can trust him. But for the upside, I think he's worth waiting out a little more.
Starting point is 00:50:01 But gray, I don't know. I didn't have a lot of confidence in gray even before he tore his lat. So the way his spring went before he got hurt and the way he started out here. I don't really understand what went wrong for him last year, and it's not looking any better this year. I'm losing a little confidence. I was watching him pitch yesterday, and he just could not put away Victor Martinez. Well, he's never really put away anybody. But, I mean, this was ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:50:31 How many strikeouts did Sonny Gray have in two starts last week? He had... Looks like Six. Six and ten and two thirds. Yeah. I mean, look, that's early because he, his first start was five. It was six, four strikeouts and six things.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I don't know. Like, he's going to have to start missing more bats. I know he's not going to be a good strikeout pitcher, but he can't be a terrible strikeout pitcher. It's going to be bad for him. Yeah. Yeah, it's got to be seven points something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Man, we got a lot left in only, only a few minutes. So Kyle Hendricks, I, Kyle Hendricks got so lucky on, uh, on Friday against the Yankees. And he did not give up any runs, but there were a lot of outs on the base paths, and the defense helped him a lot. But anyway, this is a category called Studs being something in between Studs and Duds, Part 1.
Starting point is 00:51:18 It's a mouthful. Kyle Hendricks, Danny Duffy, Kentimae, Dimaeada, Dylan Bundy. Kyle Hendricks, Danny Duffy, Kentamaieta, Dylan Bundy. Anything you like to say about these fellows? My Ada is kind of that same category as a couple weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:51:30 Taiwan Walker was where I said, I'm glad that he had a good start against the Padres. I was glad he had a good start against the Phillies. I'm probably going to start him, but I'm still a little bit nervous. I think you're still right on Bundy if you can get somebody to buy him based on what his ERA is. There's not a whole lot else that looks good. Hendricks is starting at Colorado this week, and I would not start him.
Starting point is 00:51:55 No. Yeah, and Hendricks, so he's a lot, all these guys, I don't know about Maeda, but Duffy, Bundy, and Hendricks are all having velocity issues. Maida is not. He's actually, Dave Roberts feels like he's throwing too hard. Oh, okay. And that's interesting, Scott, because he hasn't... This is the thing about Maeda.
Starting point is 00:52:15 We all know this thing. Like, he should be pitching on extended rest because the adjustment he's made, you know, coming over... I said Korea last time, coming over from Japan. He has pitched one game this year on regular rest. Everything else has been extended rest, and he has a 581 ERN. my Ada, so maybe that's why he's throwing a little bit too hard, I don't know. But Duffy and Bundy, Bundy in particular, I mean, Bundy's fastball velocity is like 92 now.
Starting point is 00:52:41 He had one start, it was about 90, and that's when I sold him. It's been better than that, and his secondary stuff is really good. But three strikeouts in six innings, and now he's got 28 strikeouts in 45 and two-thirds. So the problem with velocity is like sometimes it's just a mechanical adjustment. Like I remember with David Price last year, he had to make a mechanical adjustment. His velocity was down. he made the adjustment. He pitched a lot better. It was probably about eight starts into the season, I'd say, approximately.
Starting point is 00:53:06 So you don't know if it's going to come back. And if it does and you sold, you might feel like an idiot. So I don't know. I think if you sell Bundy for what you should be able to sell him for, it would be an idiot-proof trait. Like even if he does become a legit stud, the idea is you're selling him like kind of a mirage stud. Like, you know he's not really stud,
Starting point is 00:53:28 but somebody out there may be so desperate for pitching that they're willing to buy in. Okay. Other guys, this group's boring. Let's skip them. Fringy starting pitchers part one. How many of these guys do you want to own? Matt Shoemaker, Francisco Liriano, Jeremy Hellickson, Eduardo Rodriguez.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Shoemaker and Rodriguez. Just Rodriguez for me. I actually dropped Leriano and Shoemaker at all but the very deepest of leagues where I own. So, like, some of the guys you were excited about earlier, are you dropping Shoemaker for Holland or? Anybody in that class? Shoemaker has one quality start this year. So he's as much a victim as of this
Starting point is 00:54:12 increased reliance on the bullpen as anybody. I haven't been able to drop Liriano yet though. Because I know what he's capable of. I guess he's sort of like a streaky pitcher. Yeah. But I mean, I get it. I'm not saying I'd definitely pick Liriano up if he were dropped.
Starting point is 00:54:30 but in the one or two leagues that I own him, he's still on my team. Yeah, I mean, context is important. He was in our 16 team league, for example, where I want to pick up Clevenger. He was not somebody I was willing to drop for Clevenger. But like the Derek Holland, the Trevor Cahill type, the ones I have a little more confidence in. I need usable pitching right now, and I don't feel like Shoemaker is that. Yeah, I think I'd rather have Shoemaker than all those guys we talked about at the top.
Starting point is 00:54:55 But I'm glad you said what you said, Scott. You need usable pitching now, you know, because, I can't sit here and say that Trevor Cahill, based on six, seven starts. I'm dropping Liriano for him. Maybe I'm being stubborn. No, and it's five starts. It's 30 innings. You're right.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Right. Yeah. And the case of Shoemaker in particular, like, it's easy for me to justify because even if he is, like, the best shoemaker can be, I think it's kind of middling. So, what? Like, the best Shoemaker can be. In this environment, it's a top 30 pitcher. All right. And more guys.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Alex Cobb, Miguel Gonzalez, Chris Tillman. Alex Cobb, Miguel Gonzalez, Chris Tillman. Interested? I think Tillman needs to be much higher, own than 51%, if only because if he's just what he was in the past, that's really good right now. Or good, at least. He wasn't throwing as hard in this first start back,
Starting point is 00:55:54 but it was just one start. Who's he got this week? Is it the Royals? Probably. That makes sense, yeah. Because I think I'm starting Chris Tillman. Let me tell you. Yeah, that's right, because the Royals go to Champa and then play.
Starting point is 00:56:07 He'll face the Royals in Kansas City. So good park, bad offense. I'd start him. Okay. More pitchers. A little bit deeper. Tyler Chatwood, Daniel Norris, Tyler Glassnow, who had his best start. Tyler Anderson.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Well, three Tyler's, Chatwood, Glass Now, and Anderson. Oh, my. Daniel Norris, as I mentioned, J.C. Ramirez, Jordan Montgomery. Drop by Heath Cummings. Jesse Han and Mike Fultenevich Anyone? Well, you asked earlier on the show if we were interested in picking up J.C. Ramirez
Starting point is 00:56:41 and I think we both kind of said no. He'd probably be the one I'm most interested in this group, which kind of tells you something about this group. This group is wholly dependent on who they're facing this week and whether or not they get two starts for me. I was really disappointed in Mike Fultonovich on Friday. Oh, that was terrible. Yeah. He went all filthy on us.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Yep. Actually, I think that was the first time he's ever given up seven runs. Well, it's hard to give up seven runs. Deep Leagues, Jason Hamill, Josh Tomlin, Scott Feldman, Philhuees, Guyardo, A.J. Cole, Jose Urena, Matt Garza, Andrew Cashner. I'd rather have Hamel than any of the guys in the last group. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:57:28 but this is an even lower group than the last group who I didn't really want anybody from. Yeah, we're really digging deep at this point. Getting desperate. How about Eddie Butler or Mike Montgomery as one of them will replace Brett Anderson? They lost the job to Brett Anderson coming into the year. Look what Mike Montgomery has been doing, though.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Mike Montgomery's been excellent. He is very good. If Mike Montgomery is going to start, and maybe he could just start in the third and pitch the third, fourth, and fifth, so he has a chance to be the pitcher of record and get a win, then he might be good. I mean, he had a 252 ERA last year, Montgomery,
Starting point is 00:58:05 and it's 117 this year. Yeah. I think he's a good middle reliever. I'm not ready to just write him off. He had pretty good numbers as a starter, too, and obviously he's pitching for the Cubs, which is a big deal. It would take him, you know, getting stretched out, obviously, and just making it clear that Anderson doesn't deserve to get the job back.
Starting point is 00:58:25 And then I could see him being more of that. valuable than like a J.C. Ramirez, as in maybe I value him, you know, on the level that I'm valuing at Trevor Cahill right now. But there are hurdles to clear before he gets there. Montgomery had a 32080 RA, I believe, as a starter last year. Opponents hit 217 off of him as a starter. And it wouldn't take that long for him to get stretched out because Montgomery has thrown 52, 45, and 36 pitches in his last three appearances all in the month of May. So, yeah, I mean, it's, look, we're talking deep leaks here, but he is. RP eligible. I've actually seen Montgomery get picked up in a couple of leagues.
Starting point is 00:59:01 And, yeah, I think there's every reason to leave Brett Anderson on the DL. He has been terrible in his last two starts. And he's Brett Anderson. He's going to throw 50 innings maximum. That's what Brett Anderson does. And we are done for the day. Thank you very much for listening to Fantasy Baseball today. And we'll talk to you tomorrow. This has been a very formal goodbye.
Starting point is 00:59:22 I'm Adam Azer for Heath Cummings and Scott White. See ya.

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