Fantasy Baseball Today - 05/12 Fantasy Baseball Podcast: Bullpens, Greinke vs. Keuchel, Week 7 Help

Episode Date: May 12, 2017

Injuries and terrible performances have given us some new potential closers (4:40), and it's time to pick up Addison Reed, Corey Knebel and a few others ... Dallas Keuchel or Zack Greinke (10:30)? Aaron Hicks or Aaron Altherr? Jason Vargas or Eduardo Rodriguez (17:00)? We discuss yesterday's standouts ... Talking prospects (32:25), trade (36:24) and two-start pitchers for Week 7 (53:51), plus a look at the Most Added list (49:10) ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

R.A. Dickie, Stephen Wright, Chris doesn't buy the hype of random number generators, throw a knuckleball. Scott likes using jiffs the most. Adam loves E.R.A. and auto tubes himself this way. Pax and Mike Trude plays near Disneyland. Welcome to the Friday show. Happy Friday, unless you own Dary's Familia, $3. Neftali police. Who else?

Francisco Rodriguez, but that was like on Happy Monday or whenever that was it. So bullpens are crazy right now. We'll talk about it. And read your emails, fantasy baseball at CBSI.com. Fantasy baseball at CBSI.com. Get you ready for week seven? Week six? Oh, week seven?

Wow. Any six and o's for you guys? Any potential six and o's? No, my head-to-head leagues are largely a disaster, and my category leagues are largely awesome. Okay. I don't think I have any six and o's upcoming either, maybe some five and ones.

You can't remember. I got a lot of three and threes. A lot of three and three. Oh, I got to beat Scott this week in the podcast league. I got to save my season, get back to 500. I need Mike Trout to keep stinking. That was a big break for me. So, Scott.

Speaking of podcast leagues, I have two apologies to make at the top of the show to make sure everyone hears them. Oh, God. Because I got some tweets about this yesterday. So one, maybe three actually. One, yes, I overlooked Corey Evil Kniebel when talking about the Brewer's closer situation yesterday. Yeah. It's kind of because I'm not sure that he's any good either, and I got a little too excited about Mr. Barnes. But, yes, Knievel's probably the guy with his recent success that would get the job, if they ever go away from Fleece.

Now, it is... Kniebel or Kenebke. It is... I actually heard it as Knable. Yeah. Canabel, Knable. I think it's Knable. Knable.

I was going to call him Able. Knable. I wish it was Kniebel. I'm going to call him evil can evil. That's fine. Two, I was really anti the whole adding DL spots. And after the last four or five days, I think every commissioner should give the league the choice. If one person says no, then you don't do it.

But the right thing to do, we've still got more than two-thirds of a baseball season to go. MLB teams, in my opinion, are taking advantage of the baseball. this new 10-day DL to the extreme, and we need more DL spots. Give your league the choice. Okay, I'm going to vote yes, by the way, in the poll that you posted in the podcast for the People League. I support Heath Cummings. Again, I think it has to be unanimous.

I don't think you can change rules in the middle of the season if one person doesn't like it. It already isn't unanimous. But he also said if I'm the only person, I don't care. Oh, wait, am I allowed to vote yes, or do I have to consult with Scott before I vote? Oh, no. I am, like, I'm to the point where I don't even know why we really even oppose DL limits at all. Like, if you're, if you have the box checked in your league that you, that, that it'll, it'll enforce when a player comes off a DL, you know, and a player's still in a DL spot, that's an illegal lineup. So it's not like you can just put a player in your DL spot and leave him there forevermore.

When he comes off the DL, you're going to have to make a decision about what to do about him or somebody else on you. roster as long as that's the case. I don't even know why there needs to be a DL limit. So, you know, I'm fine with more than two. I think if we're used to two being the standard, maybe we should change it to four going forward. But like, I wouldn't mind if it was 10. I don't know that you can honestly say there's an option at least in our league that you could say infinite. But I don't know, I don't know why it needs to be eliminated. All right. All right. Let's get into yesterday's action, guys. And we'll talk about Dallas Keiko, Zach Granky.

Zach Granky made an adjustment. He's been throwing his slider harder, and he's been very good lately, and he was outstanding yesterday. Florida with a no-hitter, struck out 11. Jason Vargas has the lowest ERA this late in the season since Huldo Jimenez in 2010, and Jimenez ended that season with a 280-R-A. Did not have a great second half, though. But Vargas is doing some very impressive things. If Eduardo Rodriguez is still out there, you need to pick him up.

Mike Napoli, Homer twice. D.L. Galore. And we got to talk about prospects. We got Eddie Butler, Jose Barrios, coming up to start today and tomorrow, respectively. Yeah, let's get to it. Let's start with the bullpens, though. Jayreys Familia, arterial clot in his shoulder. He may need surgery.

That just sounds bad. So hopefully he's okay. And Addison Reed would be the guy to pick up. First of all, can we drop Jay Rees Familiar or should we wait? I think it's okay to drop him probably, unless it's one of those leagues where there's just no saves it all on the waiver wire. Then you'll want to make extra sure it's not going to be just like a three-month absence instead of full season.

But either way, you're looking at an extended absence. And if, you know, if like it's a league where Derek Law is available, that's probably more valuable than Familia at this point. Okay. Well, who's the one guy that you need to pick up right now? For saves or just period? For saves? Or who are so?

I mean, there are a lot of names. Probably either way. it's Addison Reed. I already have him in my top 15 relievers because I don't, I don't think he's going to be any worse than Familia was in that role. He might actually be better. The Mets, I mean, Familia, the Mets made Familia the Saves leader, MLB saved leader last year. So it's a good situation for saves and, and Reed's going on, you know, more than a year and a half, well, basically a year and a half of Ace reliever type performance. It's the only concern I have about comparing,

because I think he can be just as good as Familia was, ratios-wise, but I'm a little bit concerned about if the Mets can provide near as many save opportunities as they did last year, just because all of their starting pitchers are hurt. Yeah, yeah, and now their bullpen's worse, you know. They don't have Addison Reed setting up to get to Familia. But I still think he is very, I would definitely,

I'm going to put him behind Justin Wilson, but that's still in the top 20 closers. Like the reason, I like Justin Wilson too. And, you know, I think he has top 15 potential. But the reason why right now there's a big gap between the two is because, like, Addison Reed, there was never a question he was going to be the one to replace Familia if something happened to Familia. And we know Familia is not going to be back for a long, long time.

I don't know that because Justin Wilson's a left-hander, because K. Rod is still there, and I don't have a lot of confidence in K. Rod turning it around, but it's a possibility. He still has that the guy he's overtaking, breathing down his neck. So I just don't know that there's the same security there that there is with Reed. Do we know that the Mets closer? Do we know that familiar is out for a long, long time? We just assume. Okay.

Yes, it's either going to be what Matt Harvey had, which would put him out for the rest of the season, or it's going to be another kind of surgery. I'm trying to think of the example I saw. One of the med speed writers talked to Dylan G. about the experience he had with what the alternate to what Harvey had would be, and still looking at several months' recovery. Okay. So last thing here, well, not last thing,

but Nathai Phileas was bad again. Archie Bradley, I mean, Fernando Rodney's actually converted three straight save opportunities in the month of May. Nine saves and a 9.95 ERA. It's crazy, yeah. It's awesome. I want this to continue all year long. I want a 40 save reliever with a 6ERA.

Sean Kelly and Coda Glover are both set to come off the DL very soon. We also have Jacob Barnes, we mentioned yesterday, but it looks like CNABLE would be the first. There are some options out there right now if you want to do some speculating. So, you know, who would you put on your bench? Canable? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. He's behind Wilson.

He's behind Reed. He's behind... There's nobody in Arizona I'd put ahead of him. I wonder about the San Diego situation. It was only Brandon Mauer's first blown save, but I don't think he's very good at all. And they've got two guys that could take that job if Carter Capps could get anybody out in the minors. Yeah, so Carter Caps is trying to get his mechanics right. He has not been brought up yet.

But Mauer had a 203 ERA, and he has one walk to 19 strikeouts before yesterday. And now he has a 461 ERA. He gave up four runs and a walk off Homer to Mike Napoli in a third of an inning. So he was having a nice year. But Carter Caps is another guy that down the line could definitely get some saves. And I wanted to point out, Sean Kelly is only 56% owned right now. Yep. So I'd rather have Kelly than any of those Milwaukee guys do, of course.

Okay. Would you rather have Kelly or Justin Wilson? I would rather have Wilson. Yeah, Wilson. And I think, like, if you're in one of those leagues, like Scott said, where there's just nothing, I think Coda Glover, just let's see what happens. Because we know that they have injury concerns with Sean Kelly, and he just went on the DL. So it's not unrealistic that at least they split or something like that.

No, I think if Kelly stays healthy the rest of the year, Glover stays healthy the rest of the year in both pitch well, Glover's still going to get a fourth of the saves Kelly does. What percent chance do you think is there the kind of start the Nationals are off to? What percent chance is there that they don't acquire a closer at some point? It wouldn't be any higher than that. So I don't know that you're talking a long-term investment in either Kelly or Glover, and if they're splitting saves, that's ultimately bad news. Yeah, probably.

But it's bad news for Kelly, I guess good news for Glover based on current. perception right now. Sure. So anyway, let's talk about yesterday's standouts. I'm not going to talk too much about yesterday today because I really want to do some, well, I've got some fun segments here. For example, a segment called Adam says a bunch of crazy stuff and maybe Scott and Heath agree. I'm going to jump ahead to that one. That's a long segment title.

Well, it's crazy. Chop that up a little. It's great. I'm saying crazy stuff. Maybe Scott and Heath will agree. There are only four pitchers that I would take over Dallas Keikel at this point. Okay. Are the four pitchers, Kershaw, Scherzer, Sale, and DeGrom?

No. They are Kirchaw, Scherzer, Sale, and... Is that Grinkey? Justin Verlander. What? What about Cory Klober? I kind of... I had a rule.

I never trade for players on the DL. I broke that rule, and I traded for Zach Britton. And I don't think I ever want to break that rule again. So... I don't know that that's a great rule, but, uh, okay. I can't go that far. I mean, I do think Kikl's going to have the second best year of his career and probably be in the Sy Young conversation. But, you know, a lot of pitchers were in the Siong conversation last year who weren't necessarily inside my top 10.

And I think he might be in that range for me. I wanted to move him up this morning because I knew that we would talk about Dallas Kuyah. Michael being awesome again, and I wanted to look at where he was. And so in a points league, I now have him 13th directly behind Grinky, who has been better this year, and has been better for most of their career. He hasn't been better than Kiko this year. He has a lower FIP, a lower FIP, and a lower C. ERA matters.

Good. I finally got to say ERA matters. Zach Grinky, 279, ERA. Dallas Keiko, what is it, like 150 or something? That was Kikil, 169. 169. How do you feel about Kekle now that his K per 9 is 7.7? I mean, for an extreme groundball pitcher. I've moved him up. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, he's, like I said, he's up to 13th now. So. Oh, 13th for you? Oh, I need to move him up. I got to catch up to Heath now.

Oh, and I know, I happen to know Jake Gerietta's 11th for me. I might move Kikel up that high. Oh, yeah. Do I want him more than Arieta? Oh, yeah. You don't. You do. I mean, if Arieta's velocity wasn't down two miles per hour, it'd be an easy no. But look, it is. He's just not sure how to reconcile that. He's amazing. He was number five, number four, number five starting pitcher two years ago, Dallas Keikle. He's just incredible.

And so many ground balls, everything's down. And, yeah, I don't know. I get it. The strikeouts aren't ace-like. But the whip, I mean, he's going to have a great whip. He's going to have a better whip than Granky. Well, I think the concern is because he's not. missing bats, is he going to start giving up more hits that would then, you know, obviously

hurt the win. Yeah, he will. That's going to happen for sure. That's true. Yeah. All right, fine. So, so we've set our piece. We set our piece. You want to keep going? Keikl's great. He's number 13. That's wonderful. He's right behind Grinky. Who has been phenomenal? Well, no, it says the thing about Granky. Like, he wasn't phenomenal. He was struggling. And then he had this great start against the Padres. And Scott said, Sell high. It was the Padres. I think he had two starts against the Padres, right? Yeah. And now, after...

Well, now he's dominating everybody. After he got roughed up by the Dodgers, a couple of people told Granky, you're not throwing your slider as hard as you used to. So he's been throwing it harder now, and apparently his slider has just been bananas lately. You said he was struggling. He has one start this year. He's given up more than three runs, and two starts this year he's given up more than three. But you don't think he was struggling? You don't think he was struggling earlier? He wasn't pitching that well. It wasn't long enough for me to call it struggling.

It was... Mild struggle. It was influenced both by the velocity being down, which it still is, by the way. It hasn't really changed. And two, except for the slider, I guess. And two, you know, we were... That was some carryover. We had some carryover perception from last year, which was obviously a bad year.

But his last four starts, over 27 innings. Grinky has 38 strikeouts to three walks. I don't care about Velocity at that point. I mean, he's been awesome. He's been great. I'm not taken away from Granky. But now do you feel like Granky is back? He is no longer sell high. He's Granky.

I no longer sell high. I'm going to be moving him into my top 15 for sure. Yeah. He might be right on the heels there of Arelletta. I know Chris Archer's in that range, too, so I got to start thinking Archer versus is Granky. That would still be a tough one because Archer's been on a nice run himself. Jason Vargas has been on a nice run. Five and one with a 101 ERA. And as I mentioned, lowest ERA this late in the season since 2010, Ubaldo Jimenez. Vargas, seven scoreless innings at Tampa Bay.

He now has eight walks, 39 strikeouts, and 44 and two thirds. And he has had a somewhat easy schedule. Oakland, San Francisco, White Sox twice, Tampa Bay, but also Houston and Cleveland. What the hell? Top 30? Jason Vargas? That's funny you say that number because I saw on Twitter last night. I was kind of shocked that our good friend Al had responded to someone's tweet and said he's in my top 30 now. Oh, wow. I can't move him that high.

But he does deserve to go up again. It's not just all good luck. It has been some good luck. He's eventually going to give up some more home runs. Yeah. And I mean, look, the whiffs we were seeing earlier in the season are gone. So now it's just command and forcing weak contact. And that's, I mean, that's always dangerous, unless you have the track record of Dallas Kiko, obviously the extreme groundball tendency.

Vargas doesn't have that. I think he's a little more of a fly ball picture, actually. For sure. Makes no sense. Like, the best thing Vargas has going for him is that he's efficient and is old. So the Royals let him pitch as deep as he's able to go, and so few pitchers are allowed to do that, that I think he probably is more valuable than we've been giving him credit for.

But, I mean, he's going to have some very ugly starts, probably sooner than later. The funny thing is he kind of reminds me of the J-Hap from last year when I kept saying, no, he's not this good, no, he's not this good, no, he's not this good, and J-Hap kept making me look stupid. So I feel like I have to just keep saying it about Vargas. But he's going to have a career year. Like, you can't get this far into the season with a 101 ERA. It'd be surprising if his season-long ERA was above three and a half now.

Would you rather have Eduardo Rodriguez or Jason Vargas? E-Rod. Not coming around to E-Rod yet. I'm not down on E-Rod that much. I don't know. Like, I need to move both of them up. Yeah. I'll say E-Rod.

Would you rather have Eduardo Rodriguez or Aaron Nol. Nola. I would rather have Rodriguez because he's already doing what I hoped Nola would do. Four straight starts at six innings for Eduardo Rodriguez with more than a strikeout per. The walks haven't even been bad lately. Career high for Eduardo Rodriguez, four straight quality starts.

I do feel like his progress has always been interrupted by injuries, and now he's healthy. I don't know if I should say always, but I really like Eduardo Rodriguez. We told you last week he was like in the 60s his ownership. We said you got to get him. Now Rodriguez is 81% owned. Last one, Rodriguez or Paneda? I'd go Rodriguez there.

Ooh. What'd you say Heath? Paneda. Yeah. I don't, I just so conflicted on Paneda. I want to say I don't buy it. But now it's, you know, now it's like eight starts, seven, eight starts into the season. He's still pitching pretty well.

And I don't know if there's data out for yesterday's. start, but two starts ago at the Cubs, he threw his change up 21% of the time, which was almost I know it's up overall, up to like 10% for the year, which is, you know, it's more. We don't want him throw in the change of it too much because it's not a very good change, but he does need to throw it to give hit or something else to think about. So maybe 10% is the perfect amount. I think what would really be the game changer for Pineda, and I don't know that there's really a way to quantify it, except just, oh, look, the numbers are better, is it.

it seems like the Yankees have made reference over the years to a lot of concentration issues. Yes. Mental issues. Yes. Yes. And he's in a contract year. I really think that matters with Paneda. Strange, the players that you identify as contract years mattering.

Why? I don't know. It's just like occasionally there's somebody that... Because he's a guy that hasn't been focused. C.C. Sabathia has to yell at him from the dugout to stay focused on the mound. He's got an incentive to stay focused now. Like, Paneda is someone I buy into in the... Just a theory.

You don't have to believe it yourself. It's fine. I feel like when you say that, you're basically saying this guy doesn't enjoy baseball as much as everyone else. He's not as competitive because he's not as motivated by just trying to win games. Well, no, but I mean, you look at... And look, I'm not accusing... Or accusing. I'm getting totally...

Scott. I'm using bad... I'm framing this poorly. But just to give you an example, and I'm not saying this is Panetta. situation at all. But Adam LaRoche, when he first came up, he would have issues all the time at first base where, like, he'd get caught up watching the play and not do what he was supposed to do on the diamond. And it turns out he had undiagnosed ADD and had to get that treated. I mean, that just shows you, like, what's going on in a player's head. I mean, it's not just a matter of him caring. It's just we don't know what's going on in his head. And if he needs help concentrating and he's getting that help now, then he could be. be better. All right, guys. A lot to get to today.

I think, last thing on Paneda. He still getting up a lot of home runs. So that's kind of concerning. But at this point, it's like, I think that my thoughts have changed on Paneda because there are so few unreliable pitchers that right now he's one of them.

But I do wonder if you could get something good for him and if you should trade him, but I think we'll probably disagree on that and that would take forever. So let me read this email. Mike just came in from George. Mike bleeping. Napoli. After listening to you guys bleep all over Napoli yesterday, I dropped him, and of course he crushes two home runs.

So I'm starting Mike Reynolds, Mark Reynolds right now. Would you rather have Reynolds or Napoli rest of season? Reynolds. Yeah, yeah. I got a lot of tweets last night about, do you still think Mike Napoli is going to hit 15 home runs now? He's on pace for a lot more than that. It must have been. Yeah. It must have been he's going to lose his job. your take. Yes. That was my take. Because he was awful.

And he had a good night. He's kind of... He's fringy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, with his many players are providing home runs right now, there's no reason to roster Napoli

in a standard 12 team league. I want to dream of dropping him in our 16 team league at him because I'm pretty confident he's going to get hot at some point. Maybe this is the start of it, but you'll have chances to react to that beyond that. Did you guys start this week?

thinking, no, we didn't. Did we start Yonder Alonzo this week? We did. Do you know what your current score? Yes, Heath. Oh, and 10. Not Yonder Alonzo's fault. He has half of our home runs for the week.

This could be the end. Yeah, this is it. You guys lose, there's 10-0. Your season's over. Yeah, we're done. Oh, come on. No, Scott, he's right. It's way too early.

We're already in last place. I mean, we can't go 10. I mean, considering you can make up 10 wins in one week. Well, some people can. Yeah, I don't know we can. I'm not a quitter. Everyone is a fan of the green machine right now. I've seen some pretty dramatic comebacks in fantasy before,

and I think there's good explanation. Like, our best hitters have done hardly anything. And if we still have faith that Incarnazion and Dozier are going to be good players, then there's reason to think our team overall could get hot, too. Yeah, I agree, but we can't go 0.10, that'll be bad. Look, guys, you can't. get yourself to Indochino. Get yourself an Indochino suit. Take my advice. You're a grown-up. You're a grown-up. Spend some money on a custom made-to-measure suit. And Indochino helps you save money on this,

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on Indochino.com, that's FBT, for any premium suit for 379 with free shipping. News and notes, Trevor Story's on the DL with a shoulder strain. Kenta Maeda's on the DL with a hamstring strain. So I guess Alex Wood in the rotation, right? Dodgers, come on. Do we really think Kenta Maeda's hamstring hurts at all? Yes, he was pitching well. You know, it was funny reading Dave Roberts trying to explain this.

He's like... It was funny. I need to find the exact quote. I know exactly what you're talking about. He basically acknowledged. You know, he did say something about his hamstring a couple weeks ago. Like, Junjid Ryu has to be activated. They're bringing Rich Hill back next week.

Let's cut a couple innings off for my Ada. Give him a start off. Yeah. But he even said, he even mentioned Ryu. He's like, and then Ryu was ready. It's like, whoa, are you confessing to this right now? This is D.L. madness. But, all right, so we don't expect it to be long term for my.

I don't know and I think I think Ryu just assured that actually Ryu's hamstring started hurting last night after the game so it didn't actually happen but you know I don't I don't know are you ready to drop Ryu he got blasted by the Rockies but I was cool I mean ready to drop him how owned is he he's like 45ish percent yeah he's already

scarcely owned in mixed leagues and yeah I didn't have a lot of faith in him there was some he seemed awfully hitable even though the strikeout rate was okay the velocity's not all the way back and i know this was a coarse field start but it's easy to when i already don't have faith in a guy it's fine it's easy to say he's just bad okay uh jarel cotton sent to the minor shah minaya likely going to come off the d l pitch either sunday or monday robinson cano was scratched with a sore quad the mariners did not want him to play on the turf in

Toronto. Mike Trout returned. He dached. Adrian Beltray took BP. Kinsler and Dozier both back. Dozier homered. Lucas Duda likely to come off the DL today. We'll see what happens there with Rivera playing pretty well. I don't know that Duda's going to play every day. Well, I don't know that he would have anyway. Matt Harvey's going to pitch tonight. We got an email from Brian. Should I start Matt Harvey tonight at Milwaukee? I don't think I would. Scott, you've been talking all week about how he was going to dice up the brewers. I have a hunch We're going to see Matt Harvey's best start Tonight, but it's one of those hunches

That like I It's more of a It's more of I believe it in my heart Than I believe it in my head kind of thing It's not like I've been looking forward to this start All week long

And I wish that Scott And I could go to a bar together And watch Matt Harvey at Miller Park And just I'll cheer for my favorite park And he can cheer for his favorite pitcher and it would be so much fun. It would be fun. Why can't you?

I have it on good authority that Scott White went to a bar just last week in Fort Lauderdale. Wow. Yeah, our friend, our buddy Nando was in town. I hadn't seen Nando since he stopped working with us. So I, yeah, that was where I had to see Nando,

so that's where I went. That's very nice of you. I am looking forward to Travis Shaw and someone sliding down the slide. Francisco Liriano on the DL with shoulder sore, Ryan Brain could end up on the DL with a calf injury. My phone will not call him Ryan Braun.

Ryan Brain, D.L. with a calf injury. Todd Frazier-D-Hed as Rick Rensoria tries to manage Frazier's back issues. I'm going to put him on the dropometer in a little bit. Lise Alberto Bonilla is going to replace Rookie Davis in the Cincinnati rotation. Any interest in Lise Alberti Bonilla? No. I'm not sure I've heard anybody pronounce his first name before. That was fun.

I don't know if I said it right, but... It's not good to me. Good job out of it. Dinard Spann is underowned. He's 14% owned. I'm not saying he should be 50% owned, but he shouldn't be 14% owned. He's leading off for the Giants, came off the DL, had a big game. Also, Brandon Crawford is off the DL.

And for you, NL only guys or girls, Matt Caesar batted second and started in left field for the Padres. It was Caesar's second straight game in the lineup. He did not bat second the first time, though. Look, if you're playing a league where anybody who gets regular at bats is worth owning, Is Matt Cesar at least going to get regular at bats, do you think, for San Diego? No, that seems unlikely. Regular seems unlikely. Semi-regular, maybe, but, I mean, he's certainly not.

Doesn't have enough statistical upside in a semi-regular role for you to care about him. Prospect Report coming up in just a second. Right now, our email of the day at Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com, it's from Chris R. He said, I need a team name. Oh, man, I went so long. Every time I eat a kind bar, it gets stuck in my throat. Finally, finally, 28 minutes into the show. I need a team name involving Cody Bellinger.

Any ideas? And I'm going to put this up to the listeners for Team Thames Tuesday. But we've had for whom the Bellinger tolls, like many, many times. It's got to be something other than that. Please. What about Bellinger? I hardly know her. No, that's, I don't like it.

How about Bellinger of the Beast? No No Okay Well Good luck everybody Why not like Kid Cody

What It's not very witty But it's better than It's better than trying to be witty and failing Well I don't know I like the A for effort Thing Who's Kid Bellinger?

I don't get it Who's Kid Cody Well kid Cody was somebody famous, right? I don't know. Oh. I'm trying to Google it now. There are 27,000 Google results for Kid Cody in quotation marks, but it's not clear who Kid Cody is.

It's just something people say. Get in my Bellinger. Get in by Bellinger. I like that, but Bellinger of the Beast doesn't work, but you make Belly, that's ridiculous. Okay. Prospect Report. Are you interested in picking up Eddie Butler, who will start today for the, for the for the Cubs at St. Louis, or Jose Berrios, who will start tomorrow at Cleveland for Minnesota.

Yes, Berrios, very much so. Yep, yep, yep, yep. I don't know that Berrios is must add, but I found someone I was willing to release for him in all my leagues. In one league, I happened to lose Familia, so that was like, okay, I'll go ahead and pick up Burrios just in case he's awesome Saturday. in another league I could drop Matt Shoemaker for him. I don't have a lot of faith in Shoemaker at this point. So I was willing to do it. I will probably drop Barrios if he looks like 2016 Barrios on Saturday. But if he doesn't, you know, with his upside and obviously he was dominating a AAA, just like he did last year, I could see him having an impact much like Michael Fulmer did last year.

What about Butler for the Cubs? I don't have much faith in him. No. Okay, he was doing great in AAA, right? I got to admit, I haven't checked. He was. His minor league numbers in the Rocky system always underwhelmed me, and I didn't understand why this guy was such a big prospect.

Okay, well, I can look at the strikeout rate in particular. 17 strikeouts in 30 and two-thirds innings. No, thank you. Oh, that sucks. But a 117 ERA. But yeah, that's, no, not missing enough bats. Now, you could understand why that was a huge problem with the Rockies. Yeah.

Might be a little better with the Cubs. But all right. How about Rocky's starting pitcher Jeff Hoffman, 8% owned? He just made a spot start yesterday, but... I will always bet against a Rocky's pitcher until he shows me. I shouldn't do that anymore. Until he shows me. I think I said she shows me.

No, I think it's... That doesn't matter. You know what? I like it, Scott. Very PC. He or she shows me. You never know. Now, Scott, who are the five prospects we need to stash right now?

Well, one of them was Burrios, and so I think it's fair to say he's graduated from that distinction at this point. He was one of the newcomers to the list. No, actually, he'd been there before. Sorry. There were two newcomers to the list. I kicked off Lewis Brinson because Keon Broxton's tearing it up in the majors now. I kicked off Joe Ross because I'm not sure I'll be thrilled to own him even if he gets called back up. The two newcomers are Reese Hoskins of the Phillies, who has monster numbers at AAA.

It had 38 home runs in the minors last year, but it was at a notorious hitter-friendly park. People were riding it off. He's on an even better home-run pace this year. Good plate discipline numbers, batting well over 300. Reese Hoskins. Philly's Outfielder? Philly's first baseman. Okay. Spelled R-H-Y-S.

What? Yeah. And, yeah, I don't think Tommy Joseph is going to be able to hold him back for long. It's, it's, it's, it's, uh, cool. I think he could be a big producer right away. And then Ahmed Rosario was the other newcomer. He almost got called up. If, as Drewbel Cabrera's thumb injury turned out to be more than just a jam, it was a torn

ligament or something that was going to sideline him for months, I think Ahmed Rosario would already be in the majors. But since that didn't happen, they're giving him a little more time. Cabrera's in a contract year and is not hitting very well. He's not properly motivated. No, his brain doesn't work the same way. So, yeah, I don't think it's going to be long before the change happens anyway. The other three prospects to Sash, Yohan Moncato, has been the case all year. Franklin Barreto Athletics are not showing any signs of calling him up but Marcus Simeon down for a long time

he's still crushing it at AAA things could change quickly there and I think that's it I think those are the five you took Brinson off but what if Braun goes on the DL would you think the Brewers would call up Brinson probably not no unless unless right or

yeah yeah they have or Eric Thames and Alfield and Hesu Zagel are playing more. They have so many options on the Major League level, particularly if we're just talking a short-term DL stint for Braun. I don't think that would be enough for them to make that move. Okay. Trade talk, if we got any bylaws are so highs.

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Anybody that you want to trade for or trade away, first name I'll throw out is, I think, a very obvious one. So if you're in a league with seasoned veterans, it might not work. But I can't see Kyle Seeger being this bad. He has 18 walks to 19 strikeouts. He was bad at the beginning of last year. Kyle Seeger's been one of the most consistent players for five years, for five years now.

I feel like obvious Bilo candidate Kyle Seeger. It's very reminiscent of last year where all the peripherals looked great and he just wasn't producing. And he came around then. I expect he will this year too. Yeah, I would be very happy to buy low on him. And I think you could maybe even like mix in a cell high of Jason Vargas and sell Vargas for Seeger to somebody. Anyone else you really want to get? I still want to get Areietta before he makes another start.

I still want to try to get Tanaka. I made a trade offer that I thought was fair. Heath said it was it. What was it again, Heath? It was Travis Shaw and Eduardo Rodriguez for Tanaka? Yeah, I don't think that's enough. I think I could see how some people would go for that. He's probably not the one you're going to get to go for that.

Well, no, I'm the Travis Shaw guy. I know, but you're also... A fantasy analyst. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't think that was a terrible offer. But, I mean, cargo, I'm not pushing really hard to acquire cargo or anything, because I don't have a great outfield need in many leagues, but he's still, I think, clearly a by-low right now,

batting under 200 with, what, two home runs or something. That's the most obvious one that comes to mind for me, but there are still many out there. I mean, the fact that Xander Bogartz hasn't hit a single home run, run yet is strange. Now he's hitting like 340, but his strikeout rate's also way down, which kind of supports him hitting for a higher average. Five steals, by the way, for Bogart's he had two yesterday.

Yeah. So I still see him as a buy low. I still suspect he's going to approach 20 home runs when all said and done. I like taking on this. Finding a sell high to mix with Scott's by lows or your by lows, so I'll just stick with that. I like Michael Conforto a lot. I think he's a very good young player. I would sell him high for cargo.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it's not that obvious. People might think cargo's done. Oh, I think people would take that trade. Yeah, I was going to mention Conforto yesterday. I mean, he is having such a great year and he's leading off. They've not faced a lot of lefties. He hasn't, no.

And he's hitting, I think he's four for, for ten. 10 against lefties or four for 12? Three for 12. Three for 12. Three for 12. Yeah, four for 10 was way too high. I knew he was batting 250, so terrible math on my part. But, yeah. 40% strikeout rate in those 15-played appearances.

Yeah, I don't... If he doesn't play against lefties, he's going to have a hard time being a top 30 outfielder, obviously. And if he does, then it's probably going to hurt his ratios. Okay, so I keep coming up with more by-low possibilities here, too. One, I think I would be really excited to pursue. because it would be a clear upgrade over whatever I have there is either Jonathan Luchroy or Gary Sanchez.

The Lickroy's starting to wake up, I think. He's starting to wake up, but not in the obvious way Posey has. I mean, a week ago I could have called POSI abil, not anymore. And Gary Sanchez, I love what he's doing peripherally. Obviously hasn't gotten the abats to really capitalize on it yet. And just from the perspective of, okay, he's really done nothing for me

all this time, I think his owner would be willing to move on him for a Michael Conforto or something like that. And Salvador Perez is like such a good sell high candidate. I was just going to say that. I don't know that I'd sell them quite yet. You've probably got another good month and a half of good production left. People might know that, though, at this point. If people know that Salvador Perez is bad after the All-Star break every year, you have to

understand what kind of league you're in it. If you have savvy owners, then you need to sell them way before that. But yeah, you're right, Heath. I mean, it's not like Perez is going to be bad now. It's as soon as the All-Star game is over. I mean, he has probably been better so far than he has been in most first halves. He's the number one catcher in both formats, Salvador Perez. Yeah, he's going to wear it out again.

Edwin Incarnacion, Rognetto Dor. We mentioned Brian Dozier earlier. He's probably less than the other two. But I'd be willing how cheap you could probably get him. Okay. I don't even know, and this is more topical, Trevor's story. I was about to say that. Yes.

Well, you don't trade for DL players, Adam. No, well, I wouldn't do it, but it's actually hurt. I think it's possible his owner is considering dropping him right now. So I really don't think you'd have to give up much for the player who could lead the position in home runs from today forward, even factoring in the DL time from today forward. I'll trade for DL players if I don't have to give much up. When I traded for Zach Britton, I gave up Dylan Bundy. Yeah. You know, so it is, I never, there's no such thing as never, you know, but I don't want to give up much for a player on the DL.

Especially like, okay, if it's a pitcher with an arm injury, that's a big deal. If it's a hitter with an oblique injury, like I wouldn't trade for Mitch Hanager. I don't know what Mitch Hanager's going to be like when he gets back. Oblique injuries have the tendency to ruin seasons. But if it's a hit, what was Story's injury? Is it a shoulder? It was a strange shoulder, which. That's a little scary if it's real.

Yeah, it is a little scary. And I'm talking buying really low. That would be the only way I'd buy him. I'm not trading, you know, I'm not trading Addison Russell for Trevor's story today. But, you know, if it's just like my fifth outfielder or something, like Aaron Altair, who I just picked up off waivers and a lot of people are probably frustrated that I get beat them to him. I could see maybe the story owner going for that. We had an email, let's see if I can find who it was from. It's from Brian and Cleveland, 10-team head-to-head categories league 9 by 9.

Would you drop Dexter Fowler for Aaron Altair? No. I think I might. If it's such a shallow league that Altair isn't already picked up, what's his ownership up to now? Probably like 60, right? I'm going to guess it's 56. Heath, you want to guess?

Aron Altaire? 48. 58? Yeah. Eat it. So it's not necessarily, it doesn't have to be that shallow of the league, I guess, for Altaire to be unowned still. But, like, if it's so shallow that you could even dream of dropping Fowler, I just feel like there's a clear limit to Fowler ceiling that there's not to Al Ther's. I mean, I'm not going to bet on it, but I don't think it's crazy to think Altaire could be a top 15 outfielder. There's probably about 40 outfielers who I could say could be top 15 outfielders, and he's among them.

I don't know the Fowler's among them. Yeah, I don't think Fowler could be top 15. It's a good point. Maybe in an OBP league, but now I see what you're saying. All right, it's time for our favorite segment. Adam says a bunch of crazy stuff and maybe Scott and Heath agree. After this, we will talk about the most added list and some two-start pitch. And here we go.

Evan Gaddis will eventually overtake Carlos Beltron as Houston's primary D.H. Sure. Yeah. I mean, he'll always catch some, and I don't think Carlos Beltron will never start. But I could see Gaddis having more at bats than Beltron going forward. This is a stupid question, but are they carrying a third catcher? I don't think so. I don't think they'd like to do that on a regular basis where they're playing both of their catchers.

but Beltron's been pretty terrible, and he's like 117 years old. And so I don't necessarily disagree with it. Okay. Joey Votto is better than Anthony Rizzo. This is probably right. Right? It's crazy. They're very similar in terms of their yearly home runs.

You know, so I don't really know what Rizzo is better at. He doesn't walk more. I feel like he's younger. He's been a better power hitter. Not much better, though. Votto has one career 30 homer season. And three with 29. That's kind of...

Okay, but Rizzo's been around 35 back-to-back years, right? Is it that much? I thought it was more like 32. I guess I'm wrong. You're right. No, you're right. 32, 31, 32. You're right.

Okay, you're right. It's closer than I thought. I don't know if we ever really consider what if Joey Votto doesn't suck for the first three months of the season. Which is happening right now. Right. Yeah, no. He seems to have... He seems to have changed some things.

He's been, I think he's been more aggressive earlier in the count. Yeah, it's fun when you can be more aggressive at the plate and cut your strikeout rate to 11%. Yeah. Like, you... It probably is true. It probably is. The one hang up is that the Cubs supporting cast,

I don't even care what the numbers look like to date. It's clearly better than the Reds. Rizzo is going to have many more RBI opportunities. But I don't know that that's enough. I maybe do need to move Votto ahead of him in my rankings. Kind of crazy. Okay. Aaron Hicks, 56% O, will be the ultimate post-hite breakout.

By the way, he drew three of the Yankees four walks yesterday, and Hicks says 20 walks in 75 at bat, so like 100 or 90, like 95 to 100 plate appearances. I don't know if they were bunt or whatever. Did I miss the formal announcement where we replaced the Thames report with the Hicks update? Aaron Hicks, ultimate post-night breakout guys. I mean, Conforto isn't? Altaire isn't?

Well, Conforter already had a good year. Paxton isn't? Okay. Paxton was plenty heights. Come on. That's true. I mean, Hicks needs to have a place to play, right? He right now is arguably their second best hitter.

Yeah. He started for Gardner yesterday, but it was against a lefty. they'll probably keep benching somebody for him, you know, four or five days a week. But I... And someone will probably get hurt at some point. Like, I've said before, I want Hicks and five outfielder leagues, but as tight as roster spaces for me in three outfielder leagues, I just can't justify adding him there yet. Here's one we're going to have to wait until next week for one-hit wonders are not worth anything more than a late-round pick. That is definitely something we're going to have to look at.

And no, I don't consider Gene Seguera a one-hit wonder, but that is up to interpretation, open to interpretation. So you're talking about Ledmas Diaz. I'm talking about Ledmus Diaz. I'm talking about Jonathan VR. I'm talking about Steve Pierce a couple of years ago. I'm talking about One-Hit Wonders, you know, and I need to go through the list and find... But Ledmus Diaz has been good. No, he has not been good. Yes, he has.

He has. He's maybe... What has he not done well? He hasn't walked much. But has he done well. I mean, he's been good... Homer at a good pace. He's made contact at a good.

rate. He's like, he's got, he's got, he's like the 12 best shortstop right now in a terrible position. He's batting 256 with a 275 on base, 413 slugging. I don't think that's so good. He's, I mean, he's, in terms of production, he's, for the year, he's sandwiched between Zander Bogart's and Addison Russell. Addison Russell's been terrible.

That's Russell's batting 227, slugging 359. He's got an OPS below 700. He's been bad. Okay. All right. Well, add a lead to Mists Diaz to the list of by Lowe's then. I agree with that. I don't feel like he's been that bad.

Well, I'll tell you, I'll think... The OPP is suffering, but otherwise he's been good. I don't know that you'd say that a guy who has had basically no big league track record is a one-hit wonder. I'm talking about a guy like VR who had a pretty lousy, albeit small sample size, but really like a very uninspiring major league career. Then he's amazing last year. That's a one-hit wonder to me. But, uh, okay.

week. Let's look at Most Added and Two Star Pitchers. Sorry it took so long, but it's going to take a little longer because I need about five seconds to get the list up, and I need less than that. Here we go. Most added players, Yonder Alonzo, A.J. Griffin, Justin Wilson, Aaron Hicks, Aaron Altair,

which Aaron would you rather have? Altair. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Derek Holland, who was terrible last night. Scott, are you going to stick... Well, Scott, are you going to stick with Derek Holland? Or are you willing to shake this off?

Well, it was probably... By the time I came around to using him, it was probably already time to lose him. That's kind of the problem with... It's going to be hard to predict. Like, look, there's somebody worth picking up. I have no problem dropping Holland for him. I have no problem.

Bring on to him if there's nobody. pick up either. Did you drop him for Burrios? Yes. In a heartbeat. Okay. Like quickly. All right. I would say like Holland last year, he had a good first half except for two terrible starts. And other than that, he was basically throwing quality starts. And just because I would drop Derek Holland for Burrios doesn't mean Holland is necessarily the one you out there in Radio Land should drop for Burrios. You may have somebody more

to drop. If you've got somebody worse than Derek Holland on your team, I hope you're playing in a 24 team. Look, he's 82% owned. I know. And he shouldn't have been. Okay. Just, okay, just, but, and I'd rather have Aaron Altair. There are probably players owned in less than 82% of leagues that I'd rather have than Holland. But, I mean, Holland's still a top 70 pitcher for me. Yeah, I think I maybe did move him up last week into my top 100, but it was just barely.

Tell me if you see long-term potential in any of these guys, I'll mention a few names again. AJ Griffin, Trevor Cahill, Matt Andrese. Charlie Morton and Chris Tillman. A.J. Griffin, Cahill, Andrese, Morton, Tillman. What was the question? Long-term potential, not just pitch and ditch. I think Trevor Cahill has the most. Yes, I agree with that.

I have interest in owning all of those guys except... I'm not that excited about Griffin. Yeah. About who? Griffin. All of his starts have been on the road except for one. Four of them have been against terrible offenses. He's not good.

I think Cahill and Morton both have the potential to be more than pitch and ditch. Yeah. Cahill is special. I think Tillman, especially in a points league, gets some innings. He's just going to be so vanilla. Right. If he goes on a nice run that makes him look better than vanilla, makes him look like strawberry or something,

then I am ditching him be a trade in a heartbeat. I would guess he is a lot like Irvin Santana and Jason Vargas the rest of the year. Yes. And I am all about ditching those guys. When I say ditch, it means trading. Okay. So you need a word that rhymes with trade. Unless they do what Derek Holland just did, then you drop them.

You know what, ditch. I'm getting my terminology. It's use them and lose them. It's not pitch them and ditching. Okay, I said pitch them and lose them. I was pitch them and ditch them. And you meant trade, it could just be pitch them and switch them. Because you're going to switch it out.

That's pretty solid. It's use them and losing, though. I'm not going to switch things up now. I think lose them could be dropping. I think you need something that rhymes with trade. No. Paid them and trade them. Grate them and trade them.

Use them and lose them. The idea being that if you got a Vargas or you got an Irf in Santana, you can hopefully combine them with, if you got one of those two pitchers and you've been playing the waiver wire in the outfield too, you got a conforteur. You got an errand judge. You can probably trade an outfielder you actually drafted. for instance, maybe like a Justin Upton, and a Irvin Santana for a Jake Garrietta, get an actual reliable pitcher, presumably.

I like parading. Get an actual top 15 pitcher. Pitch them and trade them. Parade them and trade them. You parade them out there in your lineup and then you train them. That's not funny, though, because it's not, you know, use them and lose them has that whole way. I feel like it's funny.

I think people are like me. I think people are like me. You say lose them, could me drop them. Use them and lose them as a dating connotation thing? You've never heard people say that in the dating landscape. I used to go on use them and lose them.com for dating when I was single. That's a joke. That's a joke.

Ha ha, ha. I'm very funny right now. All right, let's two-star pitchers. Two-star pitchers. Would you start Derek Holland next week at the Angels and at Seattle? Two-star Derek Collins, yes, I would start. He's going to be a two-star sleeper. Andrew Triggs at Seattle Home Against Boston.

Yeah. Sure. Let's see. We got John Lackey, Cincinnati and Milwaukee at home. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Okay. Ikeff at Texas at Pittsburgh.

Yeah. Sounds like a lot of good two-star options this week, doesn't it? It's a start, yeah, it's a pickup, not necessarily. because these guys are all... Oh, yeah, because we're still... We're just barely outside it. Man, Icoff's down to 74% owned. He's been pretty bad lately, you know?

You guys... I dropped him in a 10-team league. You guys aren't reading the news, man. He's been three bad starts in a row, and the fourth one was five... Right, but he explained why he had them, and it seems like a perfectly plausible explanation to me. What was the reason why for Icoff?

His mechanics were all screwed up. Lower half specifically. He watched a video after leaving this... last start and said he thinks it's a pretty easy fix. Okay, I hope so. I mean, look, C.C. Sabathia said, I'm not getting my fastball in on hitters. He went out next start, didn't get his fastball in again, he got ripped again. But he knows what he's doing.

But Sabathia's lost the benefit of the doubt because he's been not so useful in fantasy for a long time. And that leads me to this. I might pick up C.C. Sabathia and start him in our podcast league. Two starts at Kansas City and at Tampa Bay. It's just because I think of all the free agents out there He has, you know, the widely available free agents I think Sabathia has the best matchups of the two-star pitchers And I do think he could turn it around

Only in a points league Like I just, anybody in a categories league I don't think Sabathia is going to help you an ERA whip or strikeouts I think he could get you a quality start and a win Which is pretty points league specific Did you bring up that quality start just for the people league? Are you trying to make a push to pick him up? No

Maybe, actually. It's 16 teams, quality start league. Yeah, maybe, Scott. We should think about that. But anyway, who's out there that we can pick up? Chase Anderson at San Diego at the Cubs. Kyle Freeland, two road starts at Minnesota at Cincinnati. Jarrell Cotton is not going to make those starts.

He's in the minors. It's going to be Shamaniah instead. Oh, that's terrific. We'll start him. Right? We'll start him? Yeah, I'd be willing. Since it's two starts, I'd be willing to roll with him,

away. All right, who do you want? I'm not going to read all the names. You tell me who people should pick up. Oh, you're right. It got ugly fast. The range that, you know, I don't really consider somebody a two-stared sleeper unless he's less than 80% owned.

That's kind of a cutoff for me, just because there has to be a cutoff somewhere. So, Icoff certainly fits the bill at 74%. Zach Wheeler at 73%. I think at Arizona versus Angels, I could go for him. but you get any lower than that, and it's just like these guys are going to do more harm than good. Yeah, it's very possible. How about Musgrove at Miami home against Cleveland? I don't think so.

I don't think so, Tim. Who's Tim? Home improvement. Oh, geez. That was an Al Borland reference. Straight up most overrated show. Oh, that's super corny. I'm glad I got to give.

But he used to win like Emmys, I think. It was so acclaimed back then. You had like the Simpsons on and they get home improvement. Like, give me a break. Did he use the win Emmys? I'm going to look this up. I've got a 26% owned two-star sleeper. Who you got?

Jason Hamble. No. Didn't he just allow 13 hits or something? Over seven innings. That makes it. That's the best kind of two-wit. Yes. Yeah, he's got the Yankees, one of his starts.

But in Kansas City. right? In Kansas City, yeah, that helps. All right, so Hamils at the Yankees and at the Twins. I don't, there's honestly not one. I would have said Junjun Riu at Miami and home against, at San Francisco and home against Miami. I actually don't think that's so bad.

I mean, San Francisco is just dreadful. But it is a little, even though it was course field, it was so bad. Who does two-star Tom have? Is he a two-star pitcher, Kohler? Yeah. Houston at home. at the Dodgers. Oh, no.

So, Home Improvement did win Primetime Emmy pretty much every year. Yeah, that's what I meant. Ridiculous. Or, outstanding individual

achievement in lighting. Well, it was probably nominated. The lighting, the lighting was terrible on that show, Scott. I couldn't see it. It wasn't nominated,

like, for best, like, uh, comedy series, but Patricia Richardson, who played Jill Taylor, she got nominated

quite often for outstanding lead actress. I am trying to go on a rant, and you are just not helping. I'm sorry. Well, you've been very parade and trade, Scott. You've been very dismissive of my ideas today. It was a really well-lit show. It was not the Miller Park of sitcoms.

It was not well-lid. Couldn't even see Wilson. That might be the funniest joke you've ever told. Thank you. Thank you very much. I think we're done. here. Yeah, we're done.

Have a great weekend, everybody. Really appreciate your listening. And we'll be back on Monday to recap the weekend. Tell you who to add and drop for Scott and Heath. I'm Adam. See you later. Go Green Machine.