Fantasy Baseball Today - 05/24 Fantasy Baseball Podcast: Underowned Players, Buy Low/Sell High

Episode Date: May 24, 2017

Joe Ross headlines a list of underowned players (2:30). Who else should you be adding right now? We've got a good DL stash for you and a slugging outfielder who is owned in 4% of CBSSports.com leagues... ... We're discussing rest of season values for Anthony Rendon (26:24), Edwin Encarnacion (31:21), Michael Conforto (34:30), Ervin Santana (36:10), Clayton Kershaw (38:10) and many more ... Are we worried about Johnny Cueto's blisters (15:20)? Also, who should you buy low and who should you sell high? We finish the show with some serious trade talk (42:00) ... Your emails at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Blackman, Sunny, Gray, Matt, Harvey, Robbie, Rodhamanio. He heart hit rain, ADP, Southpaw slits, pine tarmints will waito throw a no, no. Scott and Chris are already talking about selling high on Urban Santana. No respect for Irvin Santana. None at all. Well, gee, you gave it away. Yeah, I did. Well, a lot of trade talk today.
Starting point is 00:00:26 We'll see if we can grade some trades. If we don't get to grade the trade today, we will get to that tomorrow. Welcome to the show. I just have to say something before we. we really get started here. I just have to get this off my chest. Here we go. Matt Harvey, Matt Harvey, Matt Harvey. Okay, we talked about Matt Harvey. There we go. So, by
Starting point is 00:00:44 low on Matt Harvey. Yeah. That was Scott, by the way. Someone said they can't tell us apart, so I'm just going to start speaking for Scott. Chris was just spewing Matt Harvey hate. Pure, unadulterated Matt Harvey hate last night on Twitter. So angry. No, I missed it. It's not hate. I missed it. It's a fair accounting of the facts.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Matt Harvey was dreadful last night. That would be the fact. He's a bad pitcher right now. I'm glad you said right now. We'll talk about Matt Harvey a little bit later. But how dropable is Matt Harvey? Let's just say that. You know what?
Starting point is 00:01:20 Believe it or not, I have dropped him in a league and he hasn't gotten picked up. Obviously, context is everything. This is a daily lineup league with particularly small benches, I feel like. So everybody on your roster you're using, basically. And I don't feel like Matt Harvey is particularly usable right now. Although I did start him for the two-start week in... You got to win! And yeah, yeah, I mean, it hasn't gone poorly so far.
Starting point is 00:01:51 He is lucky the Mets scored seven runs in the first inning. I mean, he only gave up, what, two, three? Two. Yeah, yeah. And he prevented runs. He didn't allow a home run, which is something. thing he's been doing a lot. He pitched so badly.
Starting point is 00:02:05 God, he was terrible yesterday. And then he struck out the side in the fifth. But anyway, more on that. More on that later. We'll bring it from Matt Harvey to under-owned players. So we're going to start with, I'm going to give you a list of players that might be under-owned. You tell me.
Starting point is 00:02:18 And we'll talk about Johnny Quato and his blister situation. We'll talk about double dongs. We'll talk about a three-steal night. We got some buy-lows and sell highs. I want to do some more rest-of-season rankings. I thought that was fun yesterday. We're going to put Fool's you on the shelf for a little while, but it'll make its return. some point. Joe Ross is 51% owned. I think he was 41% owned when we talked yesterday. He threw
Starting point is 00:02:40 eight innings of one-run ball against the Mariners, and at 51% is Joe Ross underowned. Yeah, I'm surprised it only went up that much. This was one of the better starts we saw last night from a player who was sent down to tweak his mechanics. And even when he was bad early on between his three starts. He had a start, I think, that went seven and two-thirds innings, so the nationals are comfortable pushing him. He looked a lot better in this start. There was kind of a strange period
Starting point is 00:03:13 mid-game where his velocity disappeared for a little bit, but there was something having to do with a wet mound issue. Oh, it was terrible out there. Yeah. And then he talked to Mike Maddox, and they came up with the solution, and he was fine
Starting point is 00:03:29 to go the full eight. So he definitely looked a lot better. And I I think he's with the state of starting pitching right down. I think he's must own. Yeah, that is someone I would drop Matt Harvey for. And he did well against lefties yesterday, which has been his issue throughout his career. So that was a good sign. Yeah, so that's Joe Ross.
Starting point is 00:03:48 He's 51% on. I'm just, I'm looking at some pitchers right now that are owned in like 70% of leagues or more. Jeremy Hellickson, drop for Joe Ross? Yes. Yep. Drew Pomeran, drop for Joe Ross? I had to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Chris Tillman, 63% owned. Easily. Julio Taran? No. No. Okay. You probably have a worst pitcher. You probably have a Jeremy Halexon or a, you know, one of those other guys.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Yeah, exactly. Like there's someone you can drop for Joe Ross. Okay, Hunter Renfro, 48% own. In his last nine games, he is batting 313 with a 405 on base and a 750 slugging. That's an 1155 OPS in nine games for Hunter Renfro. He's 48% owned. I would be more excited, but only two walks in his last. last seven games. I thought, you know, they talked about him not chasing pitches, better plate
Starting point is 00:04:37 discipline. That lasted for like two games. But still, Renfro with two doubles last night, is Hunter Renfro underowned at 48% own? I don't think so. I think 48%'s right about, right? Yeah, with the state of outfields. I still feel like he's basically home run or bust, and I just don't have enough, desperate enough need for home runs than I'm going to sacrifice in the other areas. Let's go back to somebody we talked about yesterday. Is Cameron Mabin underowned? I went to pick him up and he was actually owned in the league. I went to pick him up and that was a five outfield or league.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Mabin is 28% owned. He is now hit three home runs. He hit another one yesterday. Cameron Mabin, 28%. Yeah, he's drastically underowned. And I just pitched him as somebody who needs to be out of Roto leagues yesterday since he seems to profiles a high batting average guy and is getting back to that. And he's been great, better than ever with stolen bases.
Starting point is 00:05:30 But even in points leagues, he's actually going into yesterday's game, and obviously he homered yesterday, he has outscored Justin Upton in points leagues. He's outscored Mark Trumbo, George Springer. I mean, this is a guy who was batting under 200 with no power a week ago, and he's outscored Pueeg, he's outscored Adam Jones. I think maybe been, he may just be a hot hand play in points leagues, but with as much as he walks, Maybe not. Yeah, I have a hard time seeing him being one of the top 36 or 40 outfielders, which is what he'd need to be to be starting in a head-to-head points league. I think he's probably just a streamer.
Starting point is 00:06:10 But yeah, I think he's Musto and Roto. All right, I'm going to go with a guy who's on the DL and might be back in less than a month. Third week of June, they're looking for Wilson Ramos, who was the number three catcher in fantasy last year in both points in Roto. He did not have a great second half, but it still wasn't bad. I mean, about a 279 with nine home runs. His first half was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:06:33 But anyway, Wilson Ramos is 31% owned, getting close to a rehab assignment. Again, they're looking at the third week in June. Is it too early to say that Wilson Ramos is under owned with how many people are on the DL right now? 31%. That's what makes him so hard to stash right now is, you know, we were talking to someone on Twitter last night who was trying to figure out who he should drop. And he was asking if he should drop, I think Matt Schumacher for Joe Ross, because he has four guys on the DL that he can't consider.
Starting point is 00:07:00 it or dropping. And so that's probably a situation where it's really hard to justify adding Wilson Ramos, but if you can, yeah, it's worth stashing. Team Scam has them stashed. Just not them stashed since the draft. I've got them stashed in a couple places. It's a 16-team league. But on the subject of feeling like there's nobody to drop because you have all these players on the DL, somebody on Twitter asked if he could drop Gregory Polanco for Joe Ross.
Starting point is 00:07:30 And I told him no, but mostly because Polanco doesn't sound like he's going to be on the deal much longer.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah, it's tough. I didn't want him, I didn't want Polanco to come back and have this monster week and then like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:44 I'm the, I'm the reason he missed out on this high draft. That's, that would be, I think that would be absolutely insane.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Dropping Polanco for Ross. Now, Andrew McCutchen. I, that's fine. Like, the thing is,
Starting point is 00:07:56 it's highly likely the person who draft to Polanco has made so many picked up so many outfielders who have gone on to great things that it may just be a spare part for him at this point and I feel like it's a spare part with value
Starting point is 00:08:12 but making trades is hard and you know but I also think getting back to Wilson Ramos that like yeah he might be back in June and he's probably going to DH and that's helpful there's still a chance that it just takes him a month to get going Yeah. Going back to Joe Ross, I don't want to, I don't want to overreact. It's not like he went all Burrios on us yesterday here. I don't want to overreact to one really good start in terrible conditions.
Starting point is 00:08:39 You know, like, Bereos' first start. It was, for me, it's a little confirmation bias, because I do like Joe Ross a lot, as we talked about yesterday, I think he has top 25 pitcher upside. I think it's just the fact that he's a pitcher, you know, if it was a hitter who came up and went four for five with a home run or whatever, Like, we're not all running to add, Matt. Right. Right. I have a lot of, I have a lot of good hitters. Matt Adams is on this underowned question mark list, and he is 17% owned.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And he actually even acknowledged, like, I guess I didn't really, I mean, I thought of this. I should probably should have said it. What a great ballpark upgrade for him. Right now he's seven for 19 with three home runs at SunTrust Park, where you can trust that the ball is going hit the sun. And it has three times for Matt Adams, 17% owned. Yeah, the problem, as we've talked about with Tommy Joseph and Justin Bore, who have been two of the best hitters in baseball in the month of May. And it's hard to justify them being more than what, 55, 60% of 0. Right, but he's 17%.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Well, Justin Bore has a 923 OPS. I actually was looking at the box score today. He almost has the highest Ops on the Marlins, and that's including Marcelo Zuna's ridiculously hot start. but like in a world where those guys are 50% owned yeah mad adams is probably underowned at 17% but probably not well yeah i mean he's not he doesn't need to be justin board is only 51% owned even coming up a four-hit game where he homered again for the fourth time in five games he's batting better against lefties than righties
Starting point is 00:10:19 he has a good both individual strikeout rate individual walk rate he's among the batter striking the ball the hardest in all the baseball I am I am full bore right now fat dude's rape
Starting point is 00:10:33 Justin Boer or Eric Cosmer oh hey are you serious that's in my notes spewing my thunder here I've been trolling Heath for like six months on Justin Boer versus Eric Cosmer I believe Justin Boar is a better baseball player than Eric Cosmer in the
Starting point is 00:10:48 way that Eric Osmer doesn't fully maximize his obvious gifts. I mean, Chris was a believing in poor before most of the rest of the world was. So he deserves credit for that. In terms of whether, like, I still
Starting point is 00:11:07 can't imagine dropping Hosmer. But imagine it. I do think Boer has more upside. Yeah. I mean, he's got 30 Homer potential. He's got more than 30 Homer. potential. Boer, so what's the, so you drop Hosmer for Borr, Chris, and Scott wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:11:27 That's kind of where... Yeah, I think Hosmer's a very replaceable first baseman. Even if Boar slows down, I just think, Hosmer's per game production, his biggest asset is that he's like an Adam Jones, is that he's there every day. And you have to know your league. I mean, if there are other player hitters who are like 90% owned to people have gotten away with dropping because your league is of a certain
Starting point is 00:11:50 shallowness. Yeah. Then, yeah, I'd discard Hosmer for the higher upside player, but I mean, I think a standard 12 team league, Hosmer's must own still. Yeah. All right. Moving on here. Jorge Bonifacio is 4%
Starting point is 00:12:08 owned. Underowned? Yeah. Yeah. I dropped Uli Gurriel for Bonafacio yesterday. Do that. Yeah. And that I didn't realize Gouriel a homer, too, but still... It's a deeper league pickup. I mean, it's kind of like Adams.
Starting point is 00:12:23 When we say he's underowned, I don't think... It's not 50%. Four percent. Four percent, own, though, for your... Like, four percent. That means he's available in some AL only for... Right, and that's ridiculous. I mean, he's homered four times in five games or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Three home runs in his last four games, I think, for Bonifacio, who's batting 267. That's all he's going to do, and he's not even going to do it at the pace of a hundred run pro, I don't think. Okay. Two catchers. Jan Goams, 23%, Mike Zanino, 10%. Zanino came back and homered yesterday, and in his first game since being recalled. Jan Goams, 23%, Mike Zanino, 10% are they underowned? John Goams is absolutely underowned.
Starting point is 00:13:01 If you have a pulse and you're a catcher, you should be owned in higher than 23% of leagues. I can't make sense of it. This is a guy who had 20 home runs a couple years ago, and he's been bad the last two years, but he's been very good this year. gomes yeah uh so you'd rather have gomes than zanino yes how about a villa or gomes yeah somebody asked me that on twitter gomes i would take a villa i think there's much higher ceiling uh he needs to get more consistent at bats but i'd rather rather than accept marginal production at the position i'd rather shoot for the stars let's see that this is this is a guy that over two seasons hit 32 homers and and with a 285 banning
Starting point is 00:13:42 average. I don't know if that's marginal. At catcher? Yeah. I mean, what are some of the replacement level catchers? Like Cameron Rupp? He's a good bet for 15 home runs and a bad plate discipline, kind of like Goams is going to provide. I don't know. Jan Gohams was the top
Starting point is 00:13:58 12 catcher for sure by top 10. Okay. Barely top 12? I mean... I don't know if he was barely top 12. He was only 12 or owned. The 21 homer season, he was probably a lot higher than... Just barely top of well. And he was better in Roto, too, because Gomes never walked.
Starting point is 00:14:16 If you guys enjoy your Yon Gomes, I'm sticking with Alex V. Jan Gomes was the number seven, number six catcher in points leagues in 2014, and I guarantee he was better in Roto because he had 24 walks. But wasn't that the year he had the crazy high Babbap? It's possible. He only batted 278. I'm just saying what he was, 278, 21 Homer 74 RBIs. He's been terrible for two straight years, Gomes.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Because he's showing some signs of life. Do we think he's going to be the best possible version of himself again? Well, he's also had injuries the last couple of years, right? He had a shoulder issue last year. I mean, I think Avila actually has more of bats than him. We can check that. Yeah. Well, Avila, is Victor Martinez back yet?
Starting point is 00:14:56 Because that's playing into Avila. Actually, Goemps has more of bats. But either has very many. All right, look, I guess there's some catchers out there for you. Would you rather have Mesoraco or these guys? I'd rather have Meseraco, but it's not a big guy. Okay, Tuesday standouts. We already did Matt Harvey.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Let's go to Johnny Quato. Johnny Quato is dealing with two blisters. He's had a blister on his middle finger since spring training, and he got a blister on his index finger last week, and he says that the blisters are not the cause of his struggles. And Quato, it's not like he's been totally terrible. He had 19 swinging strikes at the Cubs yesterday, but he gave up three home runs.
Starting point is 00:15:36 That's 11 home runs now in 64 innings, a 1.23 whip, 464 ERA, velocity down, just a tick for Quato. How concerned are you about him? You know, this a by-low, sell-high kind of day on Wednesdays. Is it an easy buy-low on Johnny Quato or is it an avoid because of the blisters? I think it's an easy by-law on Johnny Quoido. But the blisters!
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah, I'm scared of the blisters. I was actually working out a trade for Quoido where I'd give up a couple prospects in a dynasty league. So, you know, there's some keeper ramifications there. I need Quoedo to be good now to make. that trade worthwhile. And just the troubles we've seen for, for Rich Hill and Aaron Sanchez. And is there somebody else who's had the...
Starting point is 00:16:22 Taiwan Walker. Yeah, he went on the D.L. Who else? Yeah, there's one... Josh Beckett, right. I'm spooked. Yeah, something going on here, people. Something going on.
Starting point is 00:16:37 A lot of blisters. Boisterized guys. Right? Yeah, who was the other guy with the blisters? Sanchez? Cinderguard had a blister. Oh, Rich Hill. Yeah, I mentioned him.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Oh, sorry, I didn't hear that. DeGrom. Let's see if he's okay. Rich Hill. Rich Hill. Yeah. It gets a mention for every blister. All right, so Chris isn't as worried.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Scott is about Johnny Quato. I guess my question is, do you feel like the blisters are the cause of the struggles, or do you think there's something else for Quato? Well, Quato's kind of indicated they are. Yeah. I guess it's part of it. I guess part of it's just...
Starting point is 00:17:11 A little bit of bad luck. It's mostly been home runs that have done them in, right? Yeah, the habit's still pretty low. And, like, here's the thing. I don't want... Like, if you're buying low, okay, fine. If it's actually low. But I don't know that I'd want to pay for an ace and that ace be Quato.
Starting point is 00:17:30 But that being said, I don't think I'm panicking if I'm the Quato owner. The ERA for the year looks bad, but you look at the game log and, like, six of his 10 starts have been awesome. Yeah. Colorado start. Corse Field is still driving that ERA up a little bit. So there has been a lot of encouraging stuff as well for Johnny Quato. You can give me another standout if you like. You are not allowed to talk about Anthony Rendon, Edwin-Encarnacion, Charlie Blackman, Michael Conforto.
Starting point is 00:17:57 But anyone else is fair game, because we're going to get to them in just a moment. Let's talk about Matt Shoemaker. You had a very good start. What was the answer to the question when somebody said, should I drop Shoemaker for Joe Ross? Uh, no, I wouldn't. Okay, go ahead. I like Joe Ross, and I feel like you have to figure out a different way to add Joe Ross. Then dropping a pitcher that I feel pretty comfortable relying on right now.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Um, you know, he split or usage rate is always the top line with him. And he was about 33% last night. So that's a pretty good sign. He ran into trouble late. He came about a foot away from giving up a three run home run to lose the, the lead late in the game, but he pitched very well overall. The splitter, six swinging strikes with it. I'm in a place where I feel pretty comfortable with Matt Shoemaker right now.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Okay, but you'd give him up for Quedo. Oh, definitely. Yeah, obviously. Scott, anyone for you? I want to talk about Ehuehanyos Juarez, who hit a home run off the bench last night, and that was his third home run in the last five games. I feel like there's some confirmation bias happening
Starting point is 00:19:12 because we were all happening with him because we were all pretty dismissive of him I guess it was just yesterday during the Foolju segment and he hasn't I mean if he did slow down for a stretch there he's obviously picked that back up again three home runs in his last five games he is now out homered Travis Shaw
Starting point is 00:19:33 who can do no wrong on this podcast this year not on this podcast cast today. Anyone with Heath on it. And his walk rate is way up from last year. His strikeout rate is substantially down. There's nothing alarming about his BABIP, especially when you consider the fact he has a 25% line drive rate.
Starting point is 00:19:55 The Babbat might actually be low relative to that. And I don't, other than just, I came into the year with the idea that Aeohenio Suarez isn't really that good. I see no reason looking at the underlying numbers to be like, yeah, he's not that good. Maybe, I mean, guy in his mid-20s, maybe he's just breaking out. For me, it's just all about the position. I have trouble seeing where he fits in a third base out inside the top. Yeah, I think he's in my top 20 now.
Starting point is 00:20:28 But what I'm saying is, and I understand that, I would rather have him than Travis Shaw, I think. He's been better this year than Travis Shaw in a way. that looks pretty sustainable. Even more sustainable than Travis Shaw looks, frankly. Yeah. Aaheira-Swarres is the number five third basement in fantasy right now. He's actually number four in Roto, just ahead of Chris Bryant. Does he think ahead of Travis Shaw?
Starting point is 00:20:52 Yeah, he's ahead of Travis Shaw. Not by a ton, but he is. He's 14, 13 and a half fantasy points ahead of Travis Shaw. They're fifth and sixth and points. They're fourth and seventh in Roto. Would you rather have Suarez or Joey Gallo? Gallo. I'd rather have Suarez, but I've never been the high guy on Gallo.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Would you rather have Suarez or Anthony Rendon? Rendon. All right. Well, we'll talk about Anthony Rendon and his double dongs in a moment. The big news, James and Tyone through 25 pitches in a bullpen session. There is no timetable for his return. I did pick up Tyone last night as a DL stash. I only have somehow one guy on the DL in the podcast league.
Starting point is 00:21:34 If there's another one, maybe I dropped Tyone. but for now if you can stash him, you know, not a bad idea. We just don't know yet with Tyone. Robinson Canoe is off the DL, but you've got to keep an eye on this because he's playing with a thigh injury. He's obviously not 100%. Like, just leave him on the freaking DL until he gets 100%. I don't get it unless it's going to take a while, which would be a bad thing. But keep an eye on Canoe.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I mean, he hit a ground ball yesterday to short and didn't even run it out. I think that was largely because it was so wet on the field, but he's playing through some pain. Boston called up Sam Travis to play first base against lefties. We are interested, not interested, fairly interested? No? He put in a $4 bid on him in our AL-only 12 team, Roto League, and I had a $1 bid in on him, so I didn't get him, but obviously that's the depth we're looking at there. That is damning with extremely faint praise.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Okay, that's Sam Travis, Boston Red Sox, first baseman, who will spell Mitch Morland. The Padre has called up a pitching prospect. Chris, you want to try to pronounce this one? I'm going to say Denelson L-M-A-M-A. Sure, that works for me. Spelled L-A-M-E-T. I don't know how to pronounce it. I forgot to look that up, and I apologize.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Are we interested in Denelson-Lamey? He has a lot of strikeouts, has a lot of walks. Seems like a pretty middling pitching prospect for a bad team. So, again, I'm thinking this is a league-specific. in this case that league being in L, pick up. But I'll keep an eye on him. Jose Batista played third base yesterday. That's his third appearance at third base.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And second in three games, I believe. He had one in April. And then made a defensive replacement a couple days. Well, this was actually a start. This was his first start of the year at third base. So that is growing trust. Donaldson's working his way back. So the way Chris put it when we were talking before the podcast was
Starting point is 00:23:32 It's kind of a race against the clock to get those final two appearances there. But it would make a big difference. I mean, third base is deep, but I think you'd be more likely to play Bautista there than outfield. I feel like it's just like a flexibility thing. I don't think it changes his value much. It just makes it easier to get him in the lineup. And he's been awesome over the last three weeks or so.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Yeah. He's looked like Jose Bautista. Drag out some down, walks him in the lineup. John Gray could be back in three weeks. Trevor Story off the deal, but he didn't start yesterday. Any reason for this? Trevor Story? Not that I know of.
Starting point is 00:24:15 It wouldn't be the first time they've given a guy a day off the bench before putting him back in the lineup. They being the baseball world, not the Rocky specifically. So speaking about that, Batista may be getting third base eligibility. Chris pointed out before the show. show Anthony Rizzo is the number eight first baseman in points leagues number 18 in Roto. You know, the plate discipline really helps him in points. Number eight in points, number 18 in Roto.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Rizzo would be number three at second base in points, number 12 in Roto as of today. So he's one appearance away from gaining second base eligibility. Carlos Santana started in right field again. So is he one more for him? I think that was it. That was it. Oh, he's outfield eligible? Which makes him go from a borderline starting first baseman to a very solid starting outfielder.
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Starting point is 00:26:48 851 OPS. A lot of that was a 394 on base percentage. I don't know. I saw an email come in today that was like, Rendon's been terrible other than those two games. He has been. I actually went through the trouble of calculating what he's been this year aside from those two games. Take those two monster games out, the record setting three homer game, and then this one.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And he's hit 234 with two home runs, 13 RBI, and a 697 OPS this year. But, and you're probably going somewhere with this, Adam, so I'm going to let you finish your thoughts. No, I was just saying, I mean, yeah, he has struggled, but I think when you look at the games in between the three homers and last night's two homer game, and Rendon 14 walks, 11 strikeouts, four doubles, two homers. I mean, you feel like he'd hit for a better batting average than 246.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I'll just interject here and say that I don't think it makes much sense to take two games out. Yeah, that's not exactly how it works. Yeah, like you get the value for that. Those games count. I'm fine if you want to take one homer away because he hit it off a pitch. But position player, sorry. But, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's impossible to gauge when any player is going to put up his production.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And you just, you have to, when you're assessing players for the long term, you just have to, like, you assess them based on their overall production. And if you chop it up like that, I mean, it's not always going to be bunched to this extreme like it has Berendone this year. this year and it's not going to be this way rest of season. I think his numbers are where you wanted them to be more or less coming into the year, and I think we can just be satisfied with that. And as we saw last season when he kind of disappointed for a long stretch, but all the peripherals were good, he ended up being pretty much the guy we hoped he would be.
Starting point is 00:28:45 That's kind of how I view it now. It's just that the sequencing might be weird and that might be throwing you off, but the overall production is what it is. I would have a real tough time with this because I do think that even though we talked so glowingly of Jake Lamb yesterday and even though he was awesome before he heard his hand last year, that was like 95 games. And I guess I'm always the high guy on Jake Lamb. The fact that he really can't hit lefties has made me put him in the future by, you know, we were going to do buy low, sell high in the sell high section. But I don't know that I would sell him for Anthony Rendon. If somebody offered me Rendon for Lamb, maybe. it's because I just think I could get more. You know, I was having...
Starting point is 00:29:26 I was having this conversation with a couple people on Twitter last night, and I agree with the general gist of what they were saying, which is that, like, when we do the, like, Anthony Rendon or Jake Lamb, like, in a trade, who would ever... Why would anybody ever do that trade? I tried two weeks, two, three weeks ago, to trade Lamb straight up for Bregman. It was turned down, and now I'm kind of happy about that. But you're right.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I mean, position to position doesn't happen that often. But last night, or yesterday afternoon, I traded Danny Salsar from Masahiro Tanaka. That was actually proposed to me. So it happens. Yeah, but it just, like, specifically with Rendon and Lamb, like with Bregman, I have him eight spots lower than Jake Lamb at this point. So that's a much different case. But Rendon and Lamb, I have them one spot apart in the rankings. And it's just like, whoever's better rest of season, it's kind of a coin flip.
Starting point is 00:30:20 You're leaving so much of you. your team's future up to just pure chance. But the fact that you have them one spot apart is important to note. I don't know that everybody would guess that. I guess Heath probably has the same. Yeah, but you guys are fantasy analysts. I'm saying the general public, I don't know that they would equate Rendon and Lamb. I mean, we do those exercises.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Would you rather have this player or this player? Would you trade this player for this player, however you want to word it, to basically give the audience an idea of. of these players relative value. I mean, no, it's not often you're going to trade a singular player at one position for a singular player at that other position. But any specific trade scenario we throw out there is not one you're going to be able to make because, A, you have to have the player on one side, and B, the person with the player on the other side would have to agree to it. Sure.
Starting point is 00:31:12 It's just, like, the goal isn't to give you specific trades to propose. It's to help you gauge values of players. All right, let's go to our next double-donger. Edwin Encarnacion. All right. Thanks for trading him, Scott, in the Scam League. He still has nine strikeouts in his last six games, but I don't know. It looks like maybe he's coming around.
Starting point is 00:31:36 What do you think? I mean, we didn't trade him with the idea that we think he's bad, and we're dumping him on somebody, right? Just because he happened to hit two home runs the second game after we trade him, I don't think that really changes anything. Those strikeouts are concerning. And at 34 years old, you could see how this is going to be the beginning of the end for Incarnacion. But I'll still project him to hit 30-plus homers this year. Charlie Blackman, Homer twice. He is now the number three outfielder in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:32:05 I'm not going to lie, I would like to see. I'm not going to nitpick here. He's got an amazing batting average 325. Yeah, 11 home runs. I wish there were a few more steals in there. I thought the steals would go up after he played last year with some leg injuries. But Charlie Blackman, number three outfielder and fantasy guys. Anything to say there?
Starting point is 00:32:24 He's awesome. Can't steal after you get a home run. He's hitting too many home runs. I mean, no, seriously. He's got 34 singles and 28 extra base hits. He just hasn't had that many opportunities to steal bases. Yeah, that's a good point. All right, let's go to our next guy, a triple steals guy,
Starting point is 00:32:46 Jonathan VR. Would you believe Jonathan VR is the number 10 shortstop in points leagues? And number six in Roto right now, I'm going to try to look up where he was yesterday before he stole three bases. Give him 12 on the year. But VR is still hitting 220 with five home runs. Terrible plate discipline. 17 walks, 57 strikeouts for VR. Only seven doubles. And somehow, in that lineup, only 22 runs scored for Jonathan V.R. But yeah, he's number six in Roto. He's number six in Roto. He's number 10 in points at shortstop. What do you think? Much to be good at shortstop.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I think it's fair to say he's not going to be as good as he was last year. But as long as he doesn't lose his job, I do think he's going to be. And must start. And you were giving me a lot of reasons to believe things are going to get better for him. The plate discipline is actually improved in May. 10% walk rate, 25% strike guy rate. You'll live with that. He's getting on base.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And the fact that he only has 22 runs in that lineup, I think that's going to get better. He's well behind last year's Steels pace even with the 12 But Craig Counsel Has been encouraging him to be Aggressive on the basis Again, like he was last year So
Starting point is 00:33:58 Hopefully that rate Not necessarily the rate Is in like success rate But the rate is in pace of steals improves He's only been caught three times That's how you know Jonathan VR's not running There you go All right so that's Jonathan VR
Starting point is 00:34:13 And Michael Goodforto Homer twice which will bring us to our rest of season rankings. Would you rather do a little rest of season rankings or a little buy-low, sell high right now? Let's do rest of season. Okay, let's do this kind of quicker than, let's do this a little quickly here because I've taken too long. Michael Conforto, who is now the number five outfielder in both points in Roto, 333 batting average, 13 dingers. Michael Conforto or John Carlos Stanton? Stanton still.
Starting point is 00:34:42 but I need to consider moving Conforto very close to my top 15 outfielders at this point. He's really good. Yeah, I agree with all of that sentiment there. I have an 18th before yesterday's game. He has been on kind of a strikeout binge lately, so he's almost caught up to stand in strikeouts and, you know, the pure power hitter.
Starting point is 00:35:11 You still trust Stanton. to be better at that than Conforto. Comforto is really impressive. He has eight opposite field home runs this season already. And he's hitting 278 with three home runs in 18 at bats. Only 18 at bats against lefties. That's a big one there. The Mets have the sixth fewest at bats against lefties.
Starting point is 00:35:30 The Marlins have the 10th few as the bats against lefties. It's actually pretty significant in this argument because Stanton is an absolute lefty destroyer. He hasn't faced all that many this year. but I don't know, I guess with Conforto, do you see him as a sell high or do you see him as a hold? I see him, I'm like, he's going to get worse than the pace he's on. Yes. So, in a very technical sense, I guess he's sell high, but what I think you could realistically get for him,
Starting point is 00:35:56 I think you're better off holding because it's hard to, it's hard to get a top 20 outfielder. And I think he is that. He's probably like a 275 hitter the rest of the way, but he's still going to be top 20. Okay. Rick Porcelo or Irvin Santana, rest of season? We were talking about this before the show. I can't make sense of Irvin Santana. Like, he's getting a lot of weak contact, and that's a really big deal. And this started late in July of last season when his big run really started. His strikeout rate is probably better than his K-per-9 would indicate because he allows so few base runner so far.
Starting point is 00:36:35 His strike-out rate's like 19%. It's a little below average, but his K-per-9 makes him look like he's not a strikeout guy at all. But I'm still taking Rick Porcelo. I know what Rick Porcelo does well. I'm still not 100% sure how Irvin Santana's pulling all this off. There's regression coming. And it's probably regression to like a mid to high 3s ERA pitcher, where it's someone that you still feel confident starting every week.
Starting point is 00:37:00 The Twins defense has been really good this season. Miguel Snow has actually been, by the numbers, a very good defensive third baseman, which is a big surprise. but I'll still take Irvin Santana This is like this is the fourth worst The fifth worst Babbitt pitcher in Porcelo Versus the best Babbitt pitcher this year And what there is a hundred point difference
Starting point is 00:37:21 Oh no 200 Irvin Santana's Babbat is 136 so far Half of his starts he's allowed two hits or fewer And then two others he's allowed three hits That's Like that obviously can't last but it lasts two months, which is longer than I would
Starting point is 00:37:41 ever expect it to last. I think in this pitching environment, he's obviously must-own, must-start all of that, but I'm going to trust Porcelo to the corrections going to, when both of these guys correct, it's going to put Porcelo ahead. Would you go Marco Estrada or
Starting point is 00:37:58 Irvin Santana? I have Estrada ahead of him, and closing it on Porcelo, actually. Yeah, same. Estrada has the soft contact thing, but he's also getting a ton of strikeouts this year. Well, Irvin Santana is not the number one starting pitcher in fantasy. He's number two in points. He's number three in Roto.
Starting point is 00:38:17 He is behind Clayton Kershaw, who has, I think, a 201 ERA now. So it's almost back to normal for Kershaw. Still a little more improvement to go. This is a bad season for Clayton Kershaw. I know. Would you rather have Clayton? That's kind of a joke, but he has actually been like a little bit worse this season. which is stupid.
Starting point is 00:38:38 But with that said, it's kind of important because you are talking about one of the most, if not the most valuable player in fantasy, would you rather have Clayton Kershaw or anybody not named Mike Trout? You could probably throw Paul Goldschmidt in that group, maybe mooky bats,
Starting point is 00:38:55 but it's... You're Harper? Yeah, Harper. But it's close. I don't know that I would. I don't know. Trout, yeah, I'd take Trout over Kershaw, but otherwise, I don't...
Starting point is 00:39:07 I think I'd rather, like, I know I need a pitcher more than anything else in basically every league. So I can't imagine giving up Kershaw. Yeah, there's still that group of hitters, though, that are so much better than everyone. Yeah. It's a tough call. But Kershaw, I kind of feel like if I were drafting today, Kershaw would be my second overall pick behind Trout. I also can't completely forget about the back injury that sidelined him for so much last year. I wonder if that's just sort of lurking in the background.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I don't know. I'll never know. But I guess I'd take him over Harper for sure, because if you're going to compare injury risks, there's no comparison. The thing about Kirshan, maybe this adds to the injury risk, but not only are the percentages just off the charts amazing, the Dodgers let him pitch as deep as he wants, basically. So he, like, seven innings is the standard for him.
Starting point is 00:40:08 He'll throw a, you know, nine innings start in there and eight innings start in there. Like, he went nine innings yesterday. Yeah. How many pitches did he throw? Only 104 because he's... That's amazing. Ridiculous machine. And he was, what I was saying earlier about him being worse, he was, his slider wasn't
Starting point is 00:40:29 very good early in the season. First, like, six or seven starts, and he has seemed to figure that out. Yeah. All right. It's certainly, it's understandable. And honestly, if somebody traded Mike Trout for Clayton Kershaw, grade that trade, give up Trout, get Kershaw. C-minus. Yeah, I wouldn't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:40:45 No, but it's not terrible by any means. It's not bad. It's not getting vetoed. Yeah. All right, last one. Masahiro Tanaka or Lance Lynn, who dueled with Kershaw to eight innings of one-run ball, two walks, two hits, and 10 K's. I can't believe they let him in as long as they did. He threw 123 pitches yesterday.
Starting point is 00:41:06 He walked Clayton Kershaw on four pitches at his second to last batter, I believe, and he still stayed in for the next batter. Here's what's interesting about Lance Lynn to me is, like, he's obviously been very reliable at a time when it's hard to find any reliability at starting pitcher. He has like a 250-ish ERA now. His FIPP is 470. So high. The walks are high. The walks are high in a way they've always been high. The home run rate is way up, though.
Starting point is 00:41:38 And just peripherally, he doesn't look like he should be as good as he is. So high. So high, huh? And Lanselin. Did you mention the 203 Babbup? Yep. Okay. But, I mean, this is a guy in his last two healthy seasons.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Lancelin had a 274 ERA and a 303 ERA. Yep. With high whips, both times. And he's just not pitching as well right now. And there's still pretty significant injury risk coming off Tommy John surgery. He'd just throw 123 pitches. I would get on the phone right now. I'd pick up the red phone and start calling.
Starting point is 00:42:13 You guys would take Tanaka over, Lance Lynn? Yes, very easy. Yeah, yeah. All right. Okay, then. I think it's time to talk, buy low and sell high. Good. I wonder if we should read these emails first.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I don't know. You're the host. Right? It's such a burden sometimes. Okay, I'm going to read these emails. They're trade-related. Email of the day, number one, is from James. A couple weeks ago, I thought I made a great sell-high, buy low trade by trading Alex Wood for Masahiro Tanaka.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Now everyone seems to be buying wood, and I feel like I screwed up. I don't know if he did, by the way. But what are some ways to tell the difference between a legit breakout and a sell-high candidate? Listen to us. No, we probably would have said to do this, so maybe not. And I still don't think it's a big mistake. No, it's not at all. I mean...
Starting point is 00:43:03 I wouldn't do it today. You wouldn't? I'd rather have Wood. I'd rather have to Nica. What's changed primarily is that Wood has job security he didn't have before. I get it's... Those are kinds of things that are hard to predict. And timing.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Timing is a big part of this game that isn't always fully appreciated. But you should look at purples. You should look at... Yeah. To answer the broader question. Yeah, like we talked about with Lanselin. The ERA is really pretty, but there are big red flags. There are four things I care about with pitchers, basically, in this order, probably.
Starting point is 00:43:43 How often are they striking out batters? How often are they walking batters? How often are they giving up home runs? And how deep are they pitching into games? And those first three things are just FIP. Yes, they are combined. Or Sierra or X-FIP or just any. if someone has a 2-5-ERA and a 2-9 FIP, that's not concerning.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Or a 3-3-fip, that's still someone who's going to be a pretty good pitcher. And FIP's not perfect. There are Marco Estrada, someone who routinely out-p performs his fit. But if there's like a one-and-a-half-run difference between their FIP and there he are, that's when you start looking at and say, this guy needs to pitch better to even sustain his current production. There's going to be a regression. Okay. You know the day number two is Gobs from Michigan.
Starting point is 00:44:32 He says, I've been listening for two years. I've said I kind of agree with the emailer from last week who said, you dudes are too cautious. Actually, Gobs, what he said was, y'all play scared. And Gobs continues, as they like to say in Major League 2, you guys have no mobiles. Prove to me that you do. Name a player or two that you would take a risk on that most typical fantasy players would call you crazy for acquiring. Thanks for entertaining me in the shower every morning. You know what?
Starting point is 00:45:01 I like winning in fantasy baseball, and you don't win in fantasy baseball by buying into these hot takes. This is not what this program is about. You can go listen to something. Hey, Scott, you take it too personally. That's not what fantasy baseball is all about. We're here to help you win your championship, sir. You're taking it too personally, Scott. Can I throw out one player that I know Scott will drastically disagree?
Starting point is 00:45:28 just to answer the actual question. I would risk it all on a guy like Billy Hamilton. Scott and I had this argument in the office the other day. I think Billy Hamilton is exceptionally valuable within a specific team context. I'm talking about a roto team where you're middle of packing stolen bases. I would buy Billy Hamilton for a very high price because that's a guy I know can take me from seventh place to first place in stolen bases. One stinking category.
Starting point is 00:45:56 That's a big deal. Points. But you're having to give up... You were saying you'd give up, like, Nelson Cruz for him. I wouldn't give up Nelson Cruz. I thought you moved to Hamilton ahead of Cruz. I have Nelson Cruz ahead. Okay. That barely one spot ahead.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I have George Springer ahead of him. I would trade George Springer for Billy Hamilton. Well, that's not exactly a hot take considering Springer sucks so far. Miguel Snow, Eric Thames, Ryan Braun. Yeah, but Springer hot takes. Springer was a top eight outfielder last year, so I think that's a fairly hot take. Well, hot takes are all about the present, Adam. No, because we're not dumb.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Like, we don't live in a world where we just look at a guy's present-day value. Speak for yourself. I'm serious. You're not just... It doesn't sound... To somebody whose ears are trained or are finally attuned to hot takes, saying, I am giving up George Springer for this guy, doesn't sound particularly... Why are we catering to an audience that is...
Starting point is 00:46:50 Whose ears are tuned to hot takes? That's not what we're about. That's what we're about here. That's not what we're about here. We're not trying to do that. I know. That's what I was saying. But this guy's not saying that.
Starting point is 00:47:00 He thinks that we, he wants to know who we would take a risk on. I will give you a name of somebody I would take a risk on. I wanted to talk about this guy for a while now. We haven't spoken about it, but Greg Byrd was legitimately injured. This was not just a situation where Greg Byrd went on the DL so they could take him out of the lineup. He has, he just began baseball activities. He had a serious bone bruise on his ankle. Greg Bird is 51% owned.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I still believe in Greg Bird. and when he comes back, he will finally be healthy, and I think he will be much better. I would take a shot on Greg Bird. But you can't even get Justin Bohr on your roster right now. I would do the same thing with someone who's been a massive disappointment and who I didn't like coming into the season at his price, and that's Kyle Schwerber. I think Kyle Schwerver, I said it yesterday, he had a 470-foot bomb yesterday. I think he's about to get red-hot.
Starting point is 00:47:50 And when the cost is a top 100 pick for an outfield-only guy who's got. red flags about his platoon issues and playing time, although that hasn't actually been an issue. I don't like the cost. But if the cost is, you know, we'll segue right into the by-low, sell high. You're just giving by-low candidates. You're not really. But I think people are very, very frustrated with Kyle Schwerber. I've seen people say that they've dropped Kyle Schwerber.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I saw someone say they wanted to drop Kyle Schwerber for Ian Hemp. That's nuts. Yeah, and no, but here's the thing, Scott. I mean, you say I can't even get Justin Bore on my roster. Look at our Roto League, like Justin Borough's own, Logan Morrison his own, Greg Bird is up. All these guys are owned. If you play in a league of certain depth, then anybody's worth rostering who you have a hunch about. It's not just worth rostering.
Starting point is 00:48:35 It's like I want to acquire Greg Bird. I have a hunch that the injury was the big concern, the big problem there, and I think he's going to be good. I have a hunch. But you know how I am about this sort of thing. I think the waiver wire is a perfect place to leave players who you don't think your competition cares about. I'm all about roster maximization in that way. So I want to keep Byrd unowned until the very moment where I don't think I can afford to keep him unowned anymore. I'm referring to the leagues in which he's owned, you know, in the deeper leagues.
Starting point is 00:49:15 And it's not like super deep. He's 51% owned. But as much as bore, like, I'll be the guy taking the chance on Boar if we're going to play that game. Fine. I'm sure a lot of people are buying into Justin Boar. But we're also talking about Greg Byrd, who's batting like 100. So I, I don't know. I'm not trying to, I don't know what this guy's looking for exactly. I thought he is either. I think he's just used to hearing hot takes because that's all, that's all, it's a hot take culture, baby. This is the best shower this guy's ever had in his life, by the way, listening to, listening to this. He listens to us in the shower in case people have forgotten. Okay,
Starting point is 00:49:52 Bilo's cell high. I was going to ask you about Kyle Schwerber. So Chris likes him as a Bilo. Let me just throw names at you real quick and you tell me are they Bailow candidates. Brian Dozier. Yes. Yeah. Like, I don't know that he's really underperforming my expectations because I had most of us coming in. But yeah, I guess he's more of a buy low than a sell. Okay, Mike El Franco, who sat yesterday for being bad at baseball. Yes, if it's a deep enough league where your third base situation isn't already figured out,
Starting point is 00:50:34 then I would say he's a bylaw. Yeah, I don't view him as a starting third baseman at this point, moving forward. That's Mike El Franco. All right. How about Alex Bregman? Same. Yes. I've moved him down to 19th.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I'm just, I'm not sure what he's going to be special at, at a position. where a lot of guys are special. Hopefully, plate discipline. Hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully he'll be Kyle Seagery once he busts out.
Starting point is 00:51:04 This is Alex Bregman we're talking about. Chris, I'm pretty low at this point. Chris, is there a better garbage song than special? Trying to think of... The answer's no. Okay. It's the best one. Thank you, Chris. Rugnett Odor.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Yes. Yes, definite by-low. Ruegneed Adore, I looked at all the batted ball data, very similar to last year, except a lot of pop-ups, a lot of pop-ups this year. That'll happen when your swings off. He popped up the ball a lot in 2015 when he was awesome, too. You want a hot take? Rugnett Odor, he stinks.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I don't know where this hot take thing came from. You know, Scott didn't like the Y'all Play Scared email last week. He didn't like it. I played a win. I could understand if I'd like, I was finishing fifth every year, and, oh, I didn't try hard enough. Yes, I was playing scared. But that's not the way it goes.
Starting point is 00:51:59 No, but the guy was, I mean, you got to understand these emailers, for the most part, they really like us. And they're just kind of joshing around with us. So, you know, just right back. Let's be nice. Out of here with your playing scared talk. Okay. Oh, yeah. I'm done with Bailos.
Starting point is 00:52:16 You tell me, buy low, and then we'll finish with SEL High. Does James Paxson count being hurt? Nope. No. No. Terrible. I always struggle with the perception thing. Scott, why don't you go? About who?
Starting point is 00:52:35 Bilos. Bilos. Oh, you want suggestions of Bilo. Yes. Jeff Samarja. Sure. I'll call that a bai high. Okay, just because his last start was good.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Was it only his last start? His overall number, well, he... Well, it's... It depends what you're talking about. It doesn't matter. He hasn't had success in terms of run prevention. His numbers look pretty bad. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:02 It doesn't matter. Splitting hairs. Drag out the walk rate is ridiculous. And there are real reasons to believe in that because he's ditched his cutter, throwing the splidermore. The cutter has been just a failed Don Cooper experiment. Yes. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I just... 36 in my starting pitcher rankings. I'm so nervous about some of the guys we've talked about today and we've told people to buy into. and I just, I'm so nervous that in a month we're going to look stupid. Like the Cameron Maven and Samarja. Don't play scared at him. Who's scared now?
Starting point is 00:53:35 That is playing safe. I look at Jeff Samarja, kind of like I look at Nicholas Castellanos. A lot of the underlying data says that he should be very good moving forward. And the results just haven't been there yet. And if you believe in the things that we think we know about baseball, hitting the ball hard is good, getting a lot of strikeouts and avoiding walks is very good. You should buy into these guys.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I know, but how many times, like, this is what Samarja does. He's a streaky pitcher. He's got, he had like four great months last year, or three great months. Yeah, but that was, but he was a very different type of pitcher. He wasn't striking people out like this. His walk rate was higher. Don Cooper, screwed him up. And Don Cooper's a very good.
Starting point is 00:54:19 good pitching coach. Yes, but it doesn't work for everybody. He's all about the cutter that made Esteban Loise as something special back in 2003, and he thinks every pitcher needs to throw it, and every pitcher doesn't need to throw it. The year before, Samarja went to the White Sox, we thought he was an honest to goodness eight. See, he had a 299 ERA, a 107 whip, about a strikeout per inning, 220 innings. And... Cup breaks. I didn't know. It was nice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:47 It's kind of my point, though. The whole world as a whole did because that season was so good. And then he hooked up with Cooper and started throwing the crappy cutter. And now he's ditched it and he's good again. All right. So high candidates, guys? Irvin Santana is the most obvious one. Can't use him.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Sorry. We've already talked about him. Yeah. I think, um, Dallas Keikle. Oh, people, people are talking about this guy like he's a surefire. number one top five starting pitcher, and he's not that. He is, though. I don't.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I don't have a mate. I have a 16. Chris is just speaking for himself, just to be clear. Yeah. Like, I've moved Zach Grinke well ahead of Dallas County. I know what Zach Rankie's doing more. I still have Jake Arenda. I still have Jake Arenda.
Starting point is 00:55:37 I still have Jake Arietta over Dallas Keikle. People are talking about this guy. Many people are saying that Dallas Keikel is a top five starting pitcher, and I just don't see it. I can't erase what happened last season. I can't erase the peripherals that say that he's a low to mid-3 ZRA guy who doesn't strike anybody out, really. He's a very mid-linked starting pitcher when it comes to strikeouts. I know what he does well, but I don't think he's a top five starting pitcher.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And this probably applies more to Roto than head-to-head. Head-to-head, the fact that he is probably going to throw 220 innings makes a big difference. Yeah. No, it's fine. I mean, the names you said, whether or not I disagree or agree. that you're talking about great pitchers that we still value as aces. So that's fine.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I think it's really a matter of which tier do you put him in. You put him 16th. That feels a little low to me. I know. I know everybody loves Dallas Keikl. Well, he's a terrific pitcher. I'm so high on Michael Paneda.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Okay, okay, there we go. I have a hard time selling high on pitchers. I mean, Santana would be so high that it'd be worth it. Paneda, I just don't know that it would be enough for me. even just for the immediacy of how helpful Panade has been
Starting point is 00:56:50 I don't know that I could get enough for him to justify giving that up, but it's worth exploring, of course. There are a lot of sell high outfielders, I think, unfortunately, there's not a lot of need in the outfields. We talked about Brett Gardner yesterday. We talked about Miguel Sanoe yesterday, who's also third base eligible,
Starting point is 00:57:11 of course. I would add Aaron Altair to that list. Exciting pickup a couple weeks ago. And I was right there picking him up with everybody else because I think anytime somebody shows superlative production, it's worth pursuing. But now that you have him and he has established some value, I think the best way to cash in would trade him
Starting point is 00:57:32 because nothing he's doing in terms of like fly ball rate or hard-to-hit contact percentage suggests he's the power hitter. He's on pace to be right now. How about this? Aaron Altair. You have Francisco Lindor. You go and offer him for Trey Turner right now. I'm doing that.
Starting point is 00:57:50 What? Go both ways, buy low and sell high. The guy who doesn't have Francisco Linder probably hasn't realized that Francisco Linder hasn't been good for the last three and a half weeks. He's probably fed up with Trey Turner, who he invested potentially a first round pick in. I think that's a beautiful move.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Do it. See, we did Vendor on Fool's you yesterday, and remember, he homered yesterday, first of all, but no, he hadn't been good for that 19 games, I think it was, but he still had a great on-base percentage compared to his batting average. He still was drawing a lot of walks, so I'm thinking maybe that was just a cold streak. Well, Team Crease, you may remember, was on the opposite side of Team scam on this. They wanted Lindor to be a fool-jew.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I actually moved Turner behind Lindor in my shortstop rankings rest of season yesterday, so I can't get behind that move. I have, like, Lindor is a stud. Even if he's not who he was the first month, like there's no doubt he's a stud player. And Turner, I think he's a stud, but the jury's out. And, um, you know, plate discipline's been awful this year. Sophomor slump. Yeah, I, fine. I would take Turner over Lindor. I would make that trade right now. I think you could easily make that trade. And maybe you do that if he needs steals, because he does, he is stealing bases. I'm going to end it with one name here. I think Matt
Starting point is 00:59:10 Weeders is a good sell high. I think he's like a 240 hitter and he's batting 285. He's, He actually has not been good at all lately. But overall, Weeders is like the number five or six catcher. He's basically had one great week and hasn't been that good. So I don't know. I think it's hard to sell catchers, but that's a guy. Weeders for Luke Croy, give it a shot, see if it works. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Thank you, everybody. Thank you for listening. There was like 50,000 things that we did not get to. Danny Duffy was awesome. I'm going to put Danny Duffy in tomorrow's notes because he made a mechanical adjustment. Velocity's up. talk about that. He'll be in tomorrow's show. Thank you for listening. We'll talk to you on Thursday.

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