Fantasy Baseball Today - 06/15: Fantasy Baseball Podcast: Adding Astros and Dropping JAGs
Episode Date: June 15, 2017We start the show raving about Frances Martes and Derek Fisher! Which Astros rookie are we more excited to add? There are playing time issues to consider. Then it's on to Logan Morrison's (10:10) surp...rising season and a terrific Michael Pineda debate (24:10) ... Chris is labeling players as JAGs (Just a Guy). What the heck does he mean and how can it help your Fantasy team? We talk about JAGs you can drop (33:10) ... A pitcher Adam already regrets adding (31:40), Buy or Sell for Miguel Cabrera, Scott Schebler, Aaron Judge, etc. (43:14), Matt Adams talk (54:10), and a replacement for the Eric Thames Watch (52:50)! ... Email us at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the Thursday show.
It is June 15th, Adam Azor, Scott White, and Chris Towers.
If you miss Heath Cummings, just wait until Monday.
He'll be back.
And if you don't, you know, he'll still be back on Monday.
But I didn't, I had no idea, no idea what to start the show with today.
And then Chris just gave me some, some really weird news that he likes luncheples.
Yeah, lunchebles pizzas are great.
Right.
Lunchables pizza?
Yeah, I love it.
Yeah, I love it.
No, the, the, the, the cheese.
No, those are trash.
Lunchable's pizza, though, is divine.
Okay.
What grade are you going into, Chris?
Seventh grade.
Okay.
It's going to be really fun.
Makes sense then.
Well, I still don't really know what to start the show with baseball-wise.
So why don't, like, yeah, there was Francis Martez, Derek Fisher, Mike Zanino.
We can talk about those.
You tell me, Scott and Chris, what should we start the show with today?
Oh, I think the biggest thing is the two Astros rookies and how they perform.
in their first opportunities to play the role they're intended to have in the majors.
I phrase it that way because obviously March has got a relief appearance earlier.
But it was his first start.
And especially given that he had an ERA above five, a whip above two at AAA,
it far exceeded my expectations.
He looked like the top prospect he is.
I didn't get to watch the whole game, but the highlights, the curveball is really sharp.
It's almost more of a slider, I think.
It's kind of a, it's definitely a swing and miss pitch.
He throws it in the mid-80s, and it looked really good last night.
I'm trying to look up the numbers.
I think he got seven swinging strikes with the pitch.
He had 12 swinging strikes total, which in five innings, I mean.
It's not a bad number to begin with him.
He had nine swinging strikes on 38 curveballs, average.
84.7 miles per hour with it,
had three swinging strikes on his fastball as well.
Seven strikeouts, three hits,
two walks,
and one run in five innings
against the Rangers. So it was
an impressive line. Now, he's basically a two-pitch pitcher right now.
He's 21 years old.
Pretty clear he hadn't mastered AAA yet,
even though it's a tough league in all.
It is. It's still a lot of questions to answer here.
But I'm giving him more
I'm giving him more attention now,
there's a greater possibility of me adding him now
than there was obviously before this stuff.
And one thing to keep in mind is 21-year-old in AAA,
that's young for the league,
and it's possible that they just had him down in AAA
throwing change-ups, just nothing but change-ups,
and that could explain why he was struggling.
You know, when you're,
you always have to look at minor league numbers
and take into account that teams are trying to develop,
these players as well. And sometimes that means they're having them purposely throw their worst
pitches to try to develop them. And Francis Martes had obviously dominated in the minors prior to this
while being young at every level. So you take those minor league numbers with a bit of a grain of salt
while also taking his first outing with a bit of a grain of salt as well.
Very salty, very salty analysis there, Chris. And Francis Martez is two starts. It has to
who starts next week. He's now 24%
owned at Oakland and at Seattle.
Meanwhile, Derek Fisher,
former coach of the Knicks,
23% owned,
two for three with a home run, two RBIs,
two runs, two walks. He batted at eighth. He played
left field against the Rangers. And the
Astros put up a big number yesterday. They crushed the Rangers.
That a nine-run inning.
Who is, oh, yeah.
Who is more, who are you
more interested in adding? I mean, I'm assuming you're going to go with the
pitcher, but who's more interesting of an ad?
Francis Martez or Derek Fisher?
it's definitely Francis Martes for me.
I still have, there are concerns about whether Francis Martis will stay in the rotation when Lance McCuller's and Dallas-Kike will come back.
But I have real questions about whether Derek Fisher's going to be able to play every day.
Yeah, well, yeah, it's a concern for both.
I mean, you said, Adam, that Martis has two starts next week.
I don't know that that's a guarantee.
Yeah.
So I'm not as of today.
I'm not looking to pick him up to start him.
I'm actually a little,
it would depend somewhat on me,
but I might be a little more inclined to pick up Fisher
because I think the path to regular playing time is clearer.
I mean,
they just have to kick Norichagai out of the lineup.
And then it'll be Fisher's job.
And while the numbers of AAA,
compared to previously in his minor league career,
you could dismiss it as, oh, it was a hitter's league,
so obviously they're inflated.
There's probably something to that.
Fisher was pretty vocal,
has been pretty vocal this year about altering his launch angle
with the intention of hitting more fly balls.
So I don't know that it actually played out with more fly balls
and the minor leagues,
but it was clear that the fly balls he was.
hitting were more impactful.
So there's,
there might be some legitimacy
to that breakthrough he had at AAA where the numbers
were just ridiculous. For me, it's not just
a question of Ayoki, though, because once
Reddick comes back, they've been playing Marwin
Gonzalez in the outfield, they still give Jake
Mariznick, I think he's got like 15, 20 starts.
So it's like, are they going to cut
those guys out even more to play this guy?
Maybe. Maybe. If he's really,
you know, if he's really this good.
But
there are concerns about his playing time.
Based on this one game, I would say Fisher is a higher priority for me now than Louis Brinson,
who I think has similar playing.
Oh, you took my question, Scott.
Well, sorry.
Good for us, though.
All well, that ends well, right?
Let's just hope Derek Fisher gets to bat against Matt Barnes during the upcoming Red Sox Astros series this weekend.
Now, if he is one of the outfielers for the Astros, would we say that Derek Fisher, like one of three outfielers,
could we say Derek Fisher is in Houston's triangle offense?
No. Okay. Terrible. Because that would be in the defense.
Damn it. Damn it. Okay. Well, it's going to be tough to make any more Derek Fisher jokes.
So coming up on today's show, I'm going to give you some players who are highly owned.
I'm going to ask you if you have any issues dropping them. It's not exactly the dropometer.
It's like, yeah, there's a pitcher on waivers and we'll drop this outfield or something like that.
I'll explain it more a little bit later. We're going to play buyer's sell. We have listener by or sell.
I don't think we're going to have time for emails today, but we'll try at Fantasy.
I see baseball at CBSI.com.
I have a new section called, I guess we should talk about pitchers who didn't pitch well because that's what we do now.
It seems every single day we talk about pitchers who didn't pitch well, but they include Johnny Quato, Dylan Bundy, Michael Paneda, Irvin Santana, Tanner Roark and Mike Leak.
That's the entire list.
And yeah, let's rock and roll.
So here's a pitcher who did pitch well.
Taiwan Walker.
And this is now, this was his first start off the DL, but going back before the DL stint.
Four good starts now in a row.
22 and two-thirds, five earn runs.
Not a lot of strikeouts, but he did get them last night.
But 23 hits in those 22 and two-thirds.
Anyway, I don't know.
Taiwan Walker is just very tricky to me,
not sure how I feel about him.
So why don't you guys tell me how I'm supposed to feel about Taiwan Walker,
who is 85% owned?
Well, the issue for him continues to be that he's just a fastball pitcher.
Like, he throws three other pitches, but none of them are any good.
And that's been the issue for him this season.
You know, you look at it below average whiff rates with every breaking ball, curveball, splitter, and his kind of slider slash cutter hybrid.
Can I interrupt you because let's take a look at the bigger picture here.
Like he does have a 335 ERA Taiwan Walker.
And the whip is not, or 332 rather.
The whip is still a little high at 1.30.
But he's been very good on the road.
230 ERA.
He struggled at home.
And we have reason to think that that could change.
I don't know, in like a month when the mythical humidor finally arrives.
So, like, has he really been, like, has he been bad?
Has he been at his appointment?
You know, you say the issues have been this.
No, he's been better than I think most people reasonably would have expected.
But I think that's, like, the peripherals are still pretty mediocre.
He's got an average strikeout rate, an average walk rate, a little better than average ground ball rate this season.
but his strike rate is only average too because he got a lot more in April.
Like the stretch where he's been quote unquote pitching well.
Yeah.
It's been a pretty awful strike.
Overall swinging strike rates 9.8%.
Yeah.
I just,
I'd rather have Marta's, to be perfectly honest.
Ooh, then Walker.
Yeah, is like 60%.
We just,
we know who Taiwan Walker is.
And we haven't seen a new version of Taiwan Walker the way we hoped we would have in the spring.
Now, he did only throw his curveball four times yesterday.
And I think that's someone,
relevant just because that pitch isn't any good.
And so maybe, but the slider and splitter haven't been any good for him either.
So it's...
All right.
So we know who Taiwan Walker is.
I'm just saying, like, he's got a 332 ERA.
The last two years it's been 456 and 422.
Is it just luck?
I mean, I guess his FIP is 332.
Yeah.
And his ex-FIP is 407 and his Sierra is over four.
So I just, I do think there's, there's.
There's an element of luck there.
The fact he has only given up four home runs, I think, makes the fifth look better than it is.
I don't think he's suddenly a home run preventer.
All righty.
So Logan Morrison, can we talk about him real quick?
And then we'll get to the rest of the show.
Logan Morrison's 62% owned is a top 10 first baseman.
He's 10th in points.
He's 13th in Roto.
And Logan Morrison just keeps having consistent weeks.
He's not having huge weeks, but he hasn't had a bad week really this year.
And that has made Logan Morrison the 10th best first basement of points, the 13th best first baseman in Roto, as I said.
More fly balls, better home run to fly ball ratio, more hard contact.
More fly balls in general.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
Right, right, that's what I meant.
So Logan Morrison, 62% own.
How does he factor in with Justin Smoke?
How does he factor in with Justin Boar, Yonder Alonzo, all the first baseman that have been trendy pickups this year?
Well, I think you might
I mean, Chris and I feel differently about Justin Smoke
And that's probably the only one
We are both pretty high on Alonzo and Boer, I think
I have Morrison behind all three
And that being said, I do think 60% ownership
Or whatever it is is too low
He's my starting first baseman in a 12-team points league
And he hasn't given me any reason to look beyond him
The longest he's gone without a home run this year is six games.
So very consistent in the way he's providing these home runs.
And even though that's basically all he's providing, you know, home runs are worth a lot.
They are.
So I think, you know, you look at a guy like Logan Morrison, who's 62% owned.
Would you rather have Lomo or Pools?
Lomo.
Logan Morrison, yeah.
And then you start talking about, well, okay, maybe he's not your starting first baseman,
but maybe he should be your utility.
Would you rather have Logan Morrison or Cody Bellinger?
Bellinger.
Bellinger, yeah.
Would you rather have Logan Morrison or Domingo, Santana?
Ooh, I want to add you.
What did you say, Chris?
Morris.
Yeah, I think so too, but that's getting about the right range.
This is why the Anthony Rizzo thing is so huge.
If you're the Anthony Rizzo owner, there's a pretty good chance you have.
had a crappy second baseman. And now you can start two of Justin Bore, Justin Smog, Yonder
Alonzo, Logan Morris. So bad about this? There's so many good first baseman that it's just,
it's a total game changer for your lineup because a big part of why Logan Morrison's only 60%
owned is because he's a first basement. If Logan Morrison was a second basement, he'd be 100%
own and might be in our top eight. Yeah, but you sound, you just sound mad about the Rizzo thing.
Yeah, I am mad. You still, like, you're not over that yet?
It still makes me angry.
I stay up at night.
Every night.
Yeah. Tossing and turning.
I have night terrors.
I want to thank everybody, by the way, for joining us on Reddit yesterday.
That was cool.
We're going to try to do that every Wednesday.
So I know, obviously, we don't get to your emails.
You know, you send a lot, and we don't get to nearly enough.
So this is another way to reach us on Reddit, R-E-D-D-I-T.
Also, just a cool place to get fantasy baseball info.
Big news for you.
Matt Shoemaker left with forearm tightness.
He says he's not consistent.
I'm concerned. Okay, we'll see. We'll see. Madison Bumgarner is on track to return after the All-Star break. Cole Hamels could start a rehab assignment tomorrow. Matt Kemp left with hamstring tightness, and they're sort of downplaying it day-to-day for Kemp right now. We mentioned that Billy Hamilton was slumping pretty badly. Well, he's dealing with a thumb issue, and he was out of the lineup yesterday, and it seems like that is having an effect on Billy Hamilton. Angels bullpen. Camber Drozian could be back on Sunday. David Hernandez.
Andes got the save yesterday, but Bud Norris was unavailable.
And when I read the, I believe it was the OC Register this morning, they said,
closer Bud Norris is unavailable.
I don't know if that's definitive, but I take that to mean Bud Norris is going to be the closer when Bedrosian gets back.
Your thoughts, guys?
That's my assumption, too, though.
I mean, Bedrosian's still the better pitcher.
So I wouldn't, I would not, you know, happen too far away, especially if I'm the Bud Norris owner.
I think that Cambergerosian, when originally he went on the DL, he was supposed to have basically a minimum stay on the DL.
It has been so long.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I feel like that was one where before he went on the DL, they were like, they didn't put him on the deal immediately, right?
I don't remember.
Yeah, I don't remember either.
But that sounds right.
I don't remember being a big deal at the time.
All I remember, Chris, is that Anthony Rizzo's second base eligible.
I just want to remind you of that.
Trevor Cahill is going to begin a rehab assignment soon.
And this was a pretty trendy waiver wire pickup.
He was 3 and 2 with a 327 ERA with 51 strikeouts and 41 and a third, a 1.21 whip.
So just reminding you, Cahill, with a little bit of control issues, but you know, you're desperate for pitching.
He's probably dropped in a lot of leagues, Trevor Cahill.
I jinks Neil Walker.
I told you I was going to talk about how underrated he is.
Now I can talk about how injured he is as he went down to the ground.
running to first base and left with a leg injury.
Sorry about that, Neil Walker.
Yoanna Cespitus sat with the heel injury.
Scott, is this the last time we're going to talk about Matt Harvey for a while?
Probably not, I would guess.
But it does seem like he's going to need to DL stint.
It's not clear whether there's an injury or it's just a dead-arm situation.
His velocity was way down yesterday.
It was.
And then he said he had a tired arm yesterday.
And, you know, I have a feeling.
Tired neck from watching all those home runs go out of the park.
I have a feeling we're going to hear a lot more about this injury in the days ahead.
Yes, I have a crystal ball, and it's looking ahead to tomorrow.
And where I go, injuries, news and notes, Matt Harvey's on the DL.
So looking forward to that.
Also, do you know who hit a home run off Harvey yesterday?
Three people did.
Yeah.
I know that.
Cubs second baseman Anthony Rizzo hit a home run off Matt Harvey yesterday.
Ah, yeah, second straight game with the lead off home run, right?
Also, Cubs' second baseman Ian Hap at a home run,
and Cubs hopefully catcher, Kyle Schwerber, hit a home run.
He hit a shot.
More to the heart of the matter on Harvey.
Like, I'm always okay dropping a player who I think nobody's going to pick up if I drop him.
And I think we've arrived at that place with harp.
His velocity, like the last 20 or so pitches, he didn't top 92 miles an hour.
No, it was a major issue.
In fact, he started to pitch pretty well, Harvey, in like, the second and third inning,
and they had somebody warming up in the bullpen because they noticed his velocity.
He said, he turned around and saw 87 miles per hour, and he hasn't thrown 87 since high school.
So there's something going on there.
Hopefully it's nothing serious, but either way, I'm dropping Harvey in the one league I own him in,
and I imagine a lot of people will.
Jason Kipnis was scratched with neck spasms.
Josh Reddick is on the seven-day concussion DL.
And two notes for you.
August 25th through the 27th is Players Weekend.
August 25th through the 27th.
So let your hair down players.
You will be able to relax your uniform policy and put nicknames on the back of your jerseys.
All M.O.B. players.
Yeah.
I love it.
That's so silly.
And they're going to sell the jerseys.
Well, they're going to sell the jerseys.
and proceeds are going to something, but this is, looks like a money grab.
But, yeah, what nickname would you guys have on the back of your jerseys?
Um, Chris.
I've never had a nickname, you know?
Nobody's ever, like, I've worked in, like, sports media for, you know, going back to college,
and everyone in sports media just calls you by your last name.
That's kind of the thing.
It's like, oh, towers.
Yeah.
That tower or power.
No, nobody ever called you tower of power?
Tower of Terror?
No, no Tower of Terror.
We actually had like CBS Sports.
You know, they had, they made like little jerseys for people.
They had everybody pick a number and what they wanted on the back of their jerseys.
I guess it's kind of like a team building thing.
I had white on the back of my jersey.
Oh, I had the best one.
I had Rowan Gardner.
I had Rowan Gardner.
Yeah.
Because people tell me I look like Henry Rowan Gardner.
I've heard that since the movie came out.
So, yeah, that was a good one.
I even got his number.
I think it was number one.
Okay.
And just last thing I want to say, very important, other than Anthony Rizzo being second-based eligible,
the NLB draft is the most ridiculous thing in sports.
Like, why do we have so many rounds?
So we can just draft the family members of former baseball players?
Like, I think Tom Glavin's son in the 37th round or something like that.
Dusty Baker's son.
Dusty Baker's son?
The kid from the play at the plate.
Yes, yes, actually.
Yeah, when he was like three-year-old bat boy.
Yeah, in the World Series, J.T. Snow scooping him up.
But why do we have so many minor league levels?
Why do we have so many?
It's ridiculous.
There are too many people playing baseball that have no chance of playing major league baseball.
I don't understand the whole system.
It is a waste of time and money.
Well, you know, those...
Tell that to Albert Pooleholes.
Tell that to Mike Piazza.
All right, Adam?
Those guys never would have gotten a...
chance, if not for the depth of the Major League Baseball system, and the game would be poorer
for it, sir.
It's dumb.
Anthony Rizzo's second baseman.
Quick shortstop update for you.
Angelton Simmons Homer, Dede Grigory is singled, so Scott is winning the bet so far.
Chris Taylor is 48% own, and while he has stopped hitting, Chris Taylor has stolen three
bases in his last two games, so that's neat.
And let's do our new segment.
I guess we should talk about pitchers who didn't pitch well, because that's the
That's what we do now.
Johnny Quato didn't pitch well, guys, and he has a 457 ERA, and quite frankly, I'm sick and tired of giving Johnny Quato a free pass.
Agree or disagree?
I disagree.
Like...
You disagree that I'm sick and tired of giving him a free pass, Scott?
How dare you?
No, I disagree with the concept of being sick and tired of giving him a free pass.
Fair enough.
Because every time he pitches, I feel like I hear this.
This was his worst start of the year, probably.
There was one that was comparable, like, in early April.
But this was more or less his worst start of the year,
and he gave up less than a run per inning still.
And I just look at the game log.
You know, leading up to this game,
he had allowed three earned runs or fewer in seven of nine.
He had pitched six innings or more and eight of those nine.
There are probably a lot of individual 450 ERA starts in there,
but, like, they're not the kind of starts where...
particularly with a guy with his strikeout rate, more than a strike-up or inning during that stretch,
that you're going to be disappointed you had him in your lineup.
And I also just think, like, what are you going to do with him?
Well, you're not dropping him.
No, but I'm a little, a little hesitant.
You're not trading him.
I'm a little hesitant to buy low.
I still think he's a buy low.
I just, like, you know, we see a bunch of ridiculous trades get made every day.
If I could trade Cody Bellinger for Johnny Quato, yes, of course I would.
But I don't value Quato.
I think he could, potentially.
I think he could, yeah.
I don't think that's a ridiculous offer to make.
Well, you couldn't in our leagues.
I guarantee it.
But in a lot of leagues you could.
I think it's worth it.
But, all right, is he still top 12 pitcher?
Or top 15?
Top 15, yeah.
Top 12.
It's kind of crowded and he's probably pushed out of that.
But my only real concern with him is he has, what, the three blisters on his hands.
But considering he's been able to pitch through it.
I think it just makes him tougher.
As well as he has.
Builds character.
Does that make sense?
Again, he's not getting throttled.
This was his worth start and less than a run per inning.
So what does that say?
Well, this was his worst start other than Corse Field, yeah.
Fair enough, Scott.
Good argument for Quedo.
I agree.
No, do I agree?
I'm more convinced.
You've talked me off the ledge.
Dylan Bundy did not pitch well yesterday.
Regression.
What did you say, Chris?
Let's be positive.
Strikeouts?
14 swinging strikes, and more importantly, 93.8 miles per hour average fastball velocity,
not quite where he was last season, but when he was a starter last season, he was in the low 94 range.
So this is right there.
He seems to be gaining as the season goes on, and I think that's a good thing.
Yes, and I wanted to say that as we've talked so much about sell high on Dylan Bundy,
Well, he's doing a little better with the strikeouts lately.
He has 14 in his last 16 innings.
And I've been watching him a lot, and the breaking pitches are so good.
He looks good.
Like, you watch him, the fastball moves a lot.
And I think the fastball's getting better, like you said.
So I'm not, this was a bad start.
I'm not so sure that we're not underselling Dylan Bundy.
I wrote about him before I was out, and my whole thing was basically.
just that like we've seen so little of Dylan Bundy that we still don't really know who he is.
You know, he was a different pitcher last year than he was than he is this year. And so, you know,
we're about 200 innings into his major league career and it's still like, Dylan Bundy's still
kind of a blank slate. And if his velocity picks up and he keeps throwing this slider, there's a
chance that Dylan Bundy actually pitches better moving forward and just has the same results he's had so
far.
Okay.
Next up, Michael Paneda.
Another bad road start.
Paneda's got a 196 ERA at home and a 625 ERA on the road.
Does that make any sense to you?
And do you buy that split for Paneda?
No, I don't really buy it.
It's Michael Panetta.
I buy it maybe to the extent that if you believe the theory that the reason he's
pitching better this year is because he's not losing concentration,
between pitches like he did in previous years
because he's playing for a contractor, whatever, right?
It's not the craziest theory I've ever heard.
But if you buy that, then that he's that kind of mentally,
I don't know that fragile is the word,
but, you know, that there's so much,
so much of his game is mental,
then it might make sense that he's not as focused on the road
as he is at home.
So that might be an explanation for it.
All right, so his worst start of the season is his first one gives up four runs and three and two-thirds innings.
His best start of the season is his second one gives up one run and seven and two-thirds.
Strikes out.
We're all freaking out.
Oh, my God, Michael Paneda is amazing.
Let's just toss those out.
Okay, fine.
Let's just throw those away, his best and worst start.
His 11 starts since then, he's got a 366 ERA and less than a strikeout per inning.
Pretty good whip, but it's just he's just Michael Panetta.
No, no, no, no.
He's not just Michael Panetta with a 366 ERA.
If you're going to tell me that Paneda's going to have a 366 ERA and the whip that we expect from him because he doesn't walk people, that's a really good, reliable fantasy pitcher.
The real Michael Paneda has been a terrible pitch.
But he's not like, he's not relied.
Well, he has been this year.
He was in May.
He's, look, we said it last time we argued about Panetta is that in two years he had not had a stretch as good as what he had this year.
Uh-huh.
And I know he's not going to be like great every time out.
Nobody's expecting that, but if 366 ERA rest of season, I will take that from Panetta.
Are you going over or under?
I think that's a fine place to set the line.
He's had three bad starts this year.
Three, and one was the very first outing that you were throwing out.
No, he's had two in his last three.
He had two immediately following his best start where he only went five innings and five
and a third, which I'm going to use the Scott White.
Well, I'm saying like if I'm classifying bad start as if this start was in my lineup, would I be disappointed that I started?
And I only see three there where that's the case.
Ooh, wow, that seems low.
All right.
Let's play a fun game.
Was this a bad start?
Obviously, the first game of the season for Michael Panetta was.
Come on, game log.
Why?
There we go.
How about five innings?
Okay.
Yeah, no, I could buy that, Scott.
I could buy that.
for sure. First inning, first outing, and then two of the last three.
I just, like, I think he's fine. I think he's useful.
But, like, the idea that, like, we're seeing, like, a Michael Panetta breakout, I guess, because he's not bad.
Yeah, that's, that's, that's just, like, what is?
He's not, he's not striking guys out as much as he was.
His strikeout rates under a strikeout per inning for the season and for, uh, and for this stretch,
especially. And I think he's probably just a guy. And he's just a guy who also has a really bad track record.
Chris, I hate you right now. He has 77 strikeouts and 77 and two-thirds.
Yeah, but over the last 11 starts especially, he has 1666 in it.
All right, five. I don't know why that's... He said a strikeout parade. It's really a knock against him.
Well, because he was supposed to be an elite strikeout pitcher.
Okay, well, okay. But that's the idea that he's going to be.
The thing is that, like, you want him in your lineup every week?
There are very few pitchers, I can say.
I want my lineup every way.
Like, I'm not going out to buy Michael Panetta.
Just a guy in 2017 at starting pitcher is a really valuable piece.
I think he's fine.
I'm not going out to buy Michael Paneda.
That was excellent.
I love it.
Okay, moving on from Panetta.
Irvin Santana, Tanner Roark, Mike Leek.
They've all, well, let's do Santana and Leak because they've overachieved this year.
But I don't know, like Leak seems like he's coming back down to Earth.
Santana has had four starts in his last eight, allowing five or more run runs.
The previous three, he's responded with at least seven shutout innings.
So he'll probably be great next time out.
But do you guys have anything amazing to say about Irvin Santana, Tanner Roark, or Mike Leak?
I think Santana and Leak were just seeing the inevitable play out, maybe a little later than we expected.
And it doesn't mean either is just trash now.
But their best is behind them, and you can expect more hiccups going forward.
The captains of the Just a Guy All-Stars.
Okay, so rank all your Jags, all your Just-A-Gyes, Chris.
Your Santana, Leak, Paneda.
Paneda is definitely number one, and then Santana and Leak.
Wait, all that talk about Panetta and you're putting him ahead of Santana and Leak?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Scott?
I'm not sure, like, I think kind of we're getting lost in rhetoric here.
because I'm not sure
what do you rank Paneda
rhetoric?
I think I have him
between 20
I might have moved him
into the top 25
just because I got sick
of the rest of the guys behind him
I'm sorry
did you just say
you move Paneda into the 25
let me see
yeah he's 25
you understand the issue
that I'm having here
but that's mostly just
because like I look at
like the Kyle Hendrix
Massey Hurra Tanaka
Rick Porcelo Jose Cantana
that's exactly like
what we were just saying
Chris out
and he of those guys
goes on a three
restart stretch where they look like themselves again, I will gladly move them ahead of Michael
Panetta.
And put Panetta all the way back toward 30, that just the guy, Michael Paneda.
He could drop all the way to 35, my friend.
Wow.
Okay.
I'm glad we got to the bottom of that.
Yeah.
All right.
So I think we are on the same page.
It's a reluctant 25.
I can see that.
I held my nose.
I made a face.
I mean, look, I actually disagree with where you have Paneta.
Like, you have Panetta ahead of Stroman.
You have Panetta ahead of Cantana.
Porcelo, Tanaka, I mean, Marco Estrada, I don't trust.
Like I said, if any of those guys goes on a nice run right now, I will very happily move them ahead,
because I trust all of them more, but Paneda's been better this season.
Okay, well, regardless.
You know what, I do want to speed this up, guys.
So who do you think you're more likely to drop in like a month?
Irvin Santana or Mike Leak?
Mike Leak.
I agree.
What about Tanner Roar?
Could you ever see a point where we're dropping Tanner Roe?
row arc.
Potentially today.
I don't think it's crazy to do it right now.
Yeah.
He had three pretty good starts lately.
Yeah, there was a stretch where he said, oh, I figured it out.
I was gripping the ball too tight and then, you know, two good starts, but then since then
three awful ones again.
Grip the ball last titaner.
Come on.
He had some kind of similar excuse for this start, but it's getting harder to buy personally.
for me
says he was holding the ball too long
that was what he said
was there a pitcher sorry Scott
was there a pitcher
that really
other than Martez that made you think
ooh I should pick this guy up because I picked someone up yesterday
that I like woke up and hated myself for doing it
but it wasn't Jason Hamill but I think you can make a case for him
it was Jordan Zimmerman
No, I'd rather have
Roark.
I would too.
Yeah, no, it's an eye on Zimmerman.
I mean, he's talking about how he changed his slider grip,
and it seems to have coincided with these three,
this good start stretch.
It's kind of a good start stretch,
like a Taiwan Walker good start stretch, though,
where, you know, three strikeouts here,
six strikeouts there.
I pit Zimmerman up because I have nothing but one-start pitchers
in this particular league next week.
week, and he is a two-star pitcher, and I'm pretty sure one of them is against the Padres.
And he said that he felt like he had his best stuff as a tiger.
Yeah, he's at Seattle and at San Diego next week.
I don't know that I'll start him, but I dropped Lewis Brinson for Jordan Zimmerman.
I do wish the strikeouts were a little bit better.
But maybe I'm just going to catch him during his hot streak.
And yeah, I mentioned the slider thing three starts ago, and you said you needed to see more,
which was totally understandable.
We've seen a little bit more from Zimmerman.
It's been three good ones in a row.
And hopefully you can keep it up next week.
Just hoping that Padre start is a good one.
All right, more on those types of pictures,
those fringy starting pictures a little bit later.
And then we will soon do buy or sell.
First, I'm going to give you a name.
You tell me, give any issues dropping these guys.
And I'm going to frame it in the context of, like,
you don't have to drop them for the same position.
There's this picture that you see on the waiver wire that you really want.
Or you want Mike Zanino.
You want to see where this goes with Zanino,
who, by the way, saying like, 3, 8.
80 or something with five home runs than's coming back.
All right, here we go.
Ender and Ciarte, 88% owned.
Do you have any issue dropping Ender and Ciarte?
I'm fine with it.
I think he's a jag and outfield.
You're jagged, man.
That said, though, he...
Three outfielder leagues, yes.
Going into yesterday's game when he had a couple of hits,
19th and points, 24th in Roto for Ender NCRte.
Still think he's a jag?
Well, I mean, there were a lot of home runs early
that contributed to that seemed fluky
and a calmed down since.
He's got one since like the second week of the season.
He's like a rich man's Nick Marcaicus
in that the point production is always going to look better
than you think it will at the end of the year,
but the ride is just kind of boring
and you can live with Adam.
Ten steals, so if you need steals,
then it's different.
All right, enter Encerte.
How about Nomar Mazarra, 90% owned?
Yeah.
What question are we answering here?
Are you okay dropping?
These guys.
I absolutely not.
In a five outfielder league, absolutely in a three outfielder league.
What about a four outfielder league?
Four outfielder league.
I've never played him before, but I imagine I could flip a coin.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm going to check now.
I'm pretty sure the standard Yahoo League is four outfielder's in two utility.
A bunch of yahoos.
That's the league that I forgot to start Jacob de Grom this week.
It's basically five outfielder's in, right?
Maybe not.
Yeah, well, no.
Outfield her first basement, I guess, would be the most likely utility players.
So No more Mizarro was leading baseball in RBI after the 14th game of the season.
He had 17.
Was hitting 328 with a 957 OPS in that time.
Since then, he has 27 RBI and 47 games, which is a decent pace.
That puts you right around 90 for the season.
But 263 average, 750 OPS, four home runs.
He does nothing.
He doesn't give you fantasy stats.
He's just, we need to remind ourselves, I think, pretty regularly that this dude's only 22.
And, like, just turned 22.
He's a baby.
He's 6'4, 220 pounds.
Like, I believe in the talent.
I believe he's going to be very good someday.
But he's just, he's still figuring it out.
Okay.
So good way to frame it.
Three out for the league, you could drop Mizarra, four or five out for the league, less certain there.
Jose Parraza, believe it, our name.
out as a top 15 shortstop.
And if Billy Hamilton's out, then he could be leading off like he did yesterday.
But Paraz's 75% owned.
Are you cool cutting him loose?
Roto, I mean, I think you probably need the steals and you have enough lineup spots to fill in the standard Roto format that for the steals.
He's always going to occupy one of those spots.
but points league there's
or even a head-to-head categories league
since the lineups are typically much smaller
I think he's expendable in both of those formats
I'm sorry I was wrong
a Yahoo League is three outfielders
and two and two utilities
so the thing about Prazahas
is he's been mostly the same player he was last year
almost the same amount of plate appearances
got a few fewer steals
a few more runs strikeout rate
walk rate's exactly the same
The difference is his babbib has regressed 73 points.
And if you believe he's going to be a high babb guy moving forward,
then he can hit 290,300.
But the quality of his contact is really bad.
Okay, we've got some interesting ones coming up now.
Any issues dropping Will Myers?
Yeah, I'm not doing it.
Will the thrill.
You know, I'm...
no i guess you can't i just i don't know how we could think this guy was a top what 70 player
two months ago and just like drop well there's a few reasons for that i mean he's he hasn't
run like he did last year right he's got 10 steals right uh he has eight steals all right so
all right let me start over there are a few reasons for this right um his production last year was
so dependent on like an elite power profile that has been kind of muted in this environment.
A, A, it's gone down just by his own production.
And B, it's not as valuable as it was at this point a year ago.
First base, remember coming into the year, first base looked like it was kind of thin.
Right.
And certainly that's changed.
You know, I had this thought when Chris Davis, C-R-R-Davis, C-R-R-R-A.
Davis went down with the oblique injury recently.
It's like, finally, I can move him behind this glut of first baseman who, you know, like
the Justin Bore and Justin Smok, Yonder Alonzo, that whole group, finally I can move
Chris Davis behind.
I'd been reluctant to do that because it's Chris Davis and he's like fantasy royalty and
you just feel like you're going to regret that in the long run.
But, I mean, even if Chris Davis, even if Will Myers, you know, even if they get back
on like a 30 homer pace what does it really mean like they're not great peripherally they strike out a ton
yeah i guess i'm saying that specifically for points leagues it's not the craziest idea i'm not ready
to do it yet but i i could see that day coming soon i just i feel like he's going to go on a heater
over the next like just pretty soon and just yeah i mean it was it was probably not much earlier
than this last year where i dropped will mire's in such a league and obviously regretted it the rest of
the year.
I mean, he just needs to try.
He needs to try.
He didn't try after the All-Sterve right now.
He's not trying before the all-star.
But here's the thing.
We had a guy in our podcast, Points League, send a note to the league.
I don't want Will Myers.
I will trade him for something cheap.
I couldn't even make a trade offer because that is specific to a head-to-head points
league.
His plate discipline is so bad that you can do better than that at first place.
But it's probably going to improve, too.
It probably is the worst it's ever been.
It probably is, but...
Like last year, his play discipline wasn't bad.
This is specifically a 21 man roster league, so kind of small rosters, five-man bench.
And obviously, being a points league, you want to maximize your pitchers, the number of pitches you use.
What I'm saying is last year, his play discipline wasn't that bad.
Like a 10% walk rate, 23% strikeout rate.
He struck out 100 more times than he walks.
That's never a good thing.
But that's not bad.
Like, that's pretty typical for someone who gets that many plate appearances, especially if you produce as much as he did.
So it just...
All right.
But in the meantime, you're probably right.
You're probably right.
Just seems like an overreaction to two months.
You're going to be losing games by having him occupy a bench spot for you that could go to another two-star pitcher or whatever.
Like, it's hard to justify, particularly if you already have certain players like that.
Like, this is the league where I owned Gregory Belanco and finally pulled the plug on him.
You know, if you have Cirrus Davis, if you have cargo.
You know, you have a hitter that you're just trusting will come around eventually because of the track record.
And he's already filling, you know, one or two of your bench spots are already filled by a guy like that.
Then adding another to the mix is just, it feels crippling.
Well, yeah.
Even if you believe in the skill set.
I think record has a lot to do with it too, because, look, it's not that we're so deep into the season.
But if you play in a fantasy playoffs, right, that start in, say, week 20, well, we're getting pretty late.
week's going to be week 12.
You know, a big chunk of your season's over.
And, like, I could see you dropping Will Myers to get Logan Morrison in your lineup.
If Lomo has a bunch of Riteys next week, you might regret that long term.
But how long are you supposed to wait?
You know, you've got to make tough decisions.
And with the way hitters are now, I think you can afford to think outside the box a little bit
and start and play hot hands if you can just always assume that in a shallower league,
like a 10-team league or this 12-team points format that we talk about a lot,
it's standard on CBS.
There's always going to be a hot hand out there on waivers.
So, I don't know.
I mean, it's part of the changing landscape.
But I can understand people getting very frustrated right now.
You're halfway through your regular season, and you're holding on these bums.
And actually, you know, I think we might have to save it for tomorrow because we've gone long here.
But a lot of people want to know about Francisco Lindor, who's been struggling for them for over a month.
Nobody's dropping him.
A lot of people want to know about Carlos Santana.
We're going to get to those guys, maybe tomorrow.
Let's do more.
Are you ready to drop these guys?
Any issues dropping Michael Franco?
I'm fine with that.
Any issues dropping Troy Tu Lewitsky?
No.
He's 84% owned enough already.
Any issue dropping DJ LaMayhew?
I'm not ready to say DJ LaMahue is worse.
Of course, Field obviously makes for a, you know, it improves
the odds of him going on this kind of crazy run that gets his batting average back well over 300,
and he'd done that a couple years in a row. So I don't think he's been bad enough for me to really
lose faith in him, even though obviously he's not really impacting my second base spot in the way I thought
he would. I think it's fine to drop him in a shower league, but it's not a must. All right, that's
DJ LeMayhew. Buy our cell. Buy herself from Chris. Buy yourself that Didi Gorgias will be
better than Troy Toluwitsky rest of season.
I buy it. I'm going to move from above him.
I'm going to sell it, but it's not going to take much for me to make that change.
And as a hot hand move dropping too low for D.D., I'm fine with it.
Buy yourself from Danny.
Miguel Cabrera, top eight first baseman rest of season.
Bye.
Bye.
From Doc Krozzar, who's our theme song guy.
Any buy or sell you want, Doc, you are permanently in the show.
By herself, Aaron Judge finishes 2018 next year.
Top 10 outfielder in a Roto League.
My gut, and I'm not really sure I can go with anything other than that,
considering I have judges the top 10 rest of this season.
I think only my gut could tell me no on this.
I just feel like there will be a little bit of the league catching up to him.
his size gives him such a big strike zone.
I can see next year being a little
underwhelming. Not that I think he'll be bad. He'll still probably be top 20,
but I'm going to go no on this.
I will feel, I'm actually,
weirdly would feel more confident answering this question after we see a slump.
I feel like we will know a lot more about Aaron Judge
whenever the inevitable slump comes,
because I want to see how low the slump goes.
It could get really bad for him really quickly.
the way it did for Giancarlo Stanton last year.
He had a slump earlier this season.
He had like a stretch where he didn't homer in May,
but he still had like a 460 Babbip or something.
I was looking it up yesterday.
From like May 2nd to May 26th,
he had like three home runs,
but he still hit 300 because his Babbup was crazy.
And it's like, we just,
we haven't seen any correction from him that's naturally going to happen.
I want to see what it looks like first.
Okay.
Well, maybe it just will never come.
If Aaron Judge hit 247 with 42 home runs and 102 RBIs.
Yeah, Chris Davis was pretty good last year.
He was number 11 in Roto.
He was number 18.
K-Ris Davis, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
247, 42 homers and 102 RBIs.
I mean, that's a pretty fair, realistic projection for him, I think.
He's a guy that strikes out a bunch, but hits the crap out of the ball.
Yeah.
Like Chris Davis, I think is second in exit velocity to Aaron Judge.
Davis is having another good year.
He's real good.
Okay, Matthew Jacobson, By or sell, Dylan Bundy, finishes the season top 24 in points leagues.
Dylan Bundy.
Sell.
Because he's probably going to have an inning.
He's probably going to get cut off in August or September.
I'm not sure he has more than 60 innings left.
I was looking at it when you guys were talking about him earlier.
He's through a little more than 100 last year and is already up at 80 now.
Interesting.
Okay.
John says Byersel, Scott Shepard.
The Sheffler trends down.
Lorenzo Kane and Gregory Polanco trend up?
I'll buy that, but I buy the Kane and Polanco part easier than the Shevler part.
It'll probably be across the board to some degree.
But I don't think Shevler is going to just bottom out and become someone we don't want in mixed leagues.
Yeah.
Lorenzo Kane, by the way, has five home runs in his last 12 games, so he is hot after two.
Pretty pedestrian to lousy months.
Buy or sell from Bill.
Justin Boer is the top 10 first baseman rest of season.
Sell.
I also sell, though mostly because there's a lot of competition there.
I like that he spelled Boer like the animal.
That's fun.
Helps you remember how to say it.
By herself from Alex.
Homer Bailey is a top 40 starting pitcher.
No.
It's probably been like four years since that's been.
True.
By yourself, Homer Bailey is the top 100 starting picture.
Yeah, I'll move him in my top 100 once he makes his season debut.
This is from Mike.
Buy or sell.
Jacob Ferreya continues his hot start.
Like we're all buying it to a certain extent.
Yeah.
I mean, if we're buying him, picking him up in fantasy, then, you know, not going to sustain this exact face.
But yeah, we buy that he's going to be successful.
Jacob Ferreya, yes. Buy herself from Owen. Archie Bradley will be an impact starter or closer this year.
Sell, and I don't know why they won't let him. I want to see them give him a chance in either the ninth inning or as a starter because I think he could be a Danny Duffy-esque type. I think he's actually like a really, Danny Duffy's a really good com for him. I know he's a righty and Duffie's a lefty, but I'm going to say this, I'm going to buy this.
Huge prospect, really big, high upside prospect that just didn't figure it out.
goes to the bullpen, starts throwing harder, starts living up to that potential.
Let's see if he can pull a Danny Duffy.
I don't know why they haven't given him a shot.
Well, there was this debate with Taiwan Walker coming back.
Oh, who's out?
Is it Zach Godley or Randall Delgado?
I still don't know.
Has that been answered?
I think Delgado pitched in relief yesterday.
Oh, that's good.
Yeah, much rather godly stay.
But why?
I'd rather see Bradley than either of them.
Why is Patrick Corbyn get a pass?
Yeah.
Like eventually, especially since he was great in the bullpen last.
September. That was part of the reason I was encouraged about him coming into this year.
Yeah, Randolph got a pitch three innings yesterday.
And then move Bradley into the rotation. I think with the way the Diamondbacks are headed,
one of the best records in the NL, they can only put up with so much more of this from Corbyn.
And I got an email to read here from Mark in Minnesota.
You guys relentlessly bashed Fernando Rodney all spring, indicating he was the worst closer in baseball
and shouldn't be drafted. He had very early struggles, but I kept him and he has rewarded me
handsomely. Not only does he have 18 saves, but he has not given up an earn run since April 29th.
That's about seven weeks, fellas. I think it's time you recant and give Fernando Rodney his reserve
due. You know, I was actually just looking at this this morning. He has allowed zero earned
runs two hits. Two hits. And his last 15 appearances. That's amazing. Way to go, Fernando.
You still got a 511 ERA. I know. He still got like a 5.ERA. But he's got a 5.E.R. But he's
like a five ERA over the last three seasons.
Yeah.
He's,
he's just a guy, Chris.
Yes, he's the definition of just a guy in the bullpen.
So he's your number eight closer, the rest of the season.
He's got a 511 ERA for the season.
He'll go through stretches like this.
He'll probably, the way it always happens,
and it's actually kind of remarkable,
the last three seasons,
he's terrible, or he's really good for one team.
He either gets cut or traded,
and then he just immediately reverses.
Of course, he's just inconsistent.
I think that's the big thing.
And so it's like, great.
He's had a really good stretch.
We've seen really good stretches for Fernando Rodney before, but we know who he is.
If it coincides with the team change, like, is there a chance that's just the overseer has some...
It's been four different teams every time, so I don't think so.
I just think it's random.
Some teams know what makes some good successful, and other teams don't.
I think it's Fernando.
Okay, listen, I know the Diamondbacks, you might not agree with me.
You got to trade for a closer.
You have legitimate World Series aspirations.
Fernando Rodney is not going to be the guy to get you there.
Like, he's a fine fantasy closer to have.
He's, like, if he's your third best closer, you're probably in decent shape.
But, like, I would prefer to have been the one who picked him up off waivers over the last couple of weeks than the guy who drafted and him had to live through that April.
Okay, guys, wrapping up buyer's sell.
From Chad Banks, buy or sell, Mike Mustakis, is a top 10 third baseman rest of season.
So, but I do have to move him up.
I mean, it's been kind of like first base at third base,
where it's just, I know all these guys are good, but how do I move these other guys out of the top 10?
Yeah.
Well, we were going to do some Wariometer and some emails.
I will save that for tomorrow.
We'll talk about yesterday's action a little bit more.
Yaso Pueg, suspended for one game for the double middle.
He's appealing it.
Toronto outfielder Ezekiel Carrera is on the deal with a broken foot.
Steve Pierce could be back soon, but the Blue Jays called up Dwight Smith Jr.
Any interest?
No.
Although he is the first major leaguer to have come from my high school.
Ooh, very cool.
You're almost catching up to my high school.
First Macintosh High School graduate to reach the major league.
So that is exciting.
Yeah, well, Steve from Aladdin, or Steve from Full House, the voice of Aladdin, went to my high school.
Mike Napoli, J.D. Martinez, and I have combined for like 300 career home runs from planning in high school.
Flanagan has a lot. South Florida has a lot. We've only got two. We've only got those two.
Well, that's a lot.
Yeah, that is a lot. Considering Dwight Smith Jr.
Number one for us. South Florida, though, man, baseball hotbed.
Aladdin. That's all I'm saying. Aladdin. Colton Wong left with forearm tightness.
starting pitcher Brian Johnson left with shoulder soreness.
Zach Cozart sat again with a quad injury,
Tim Beckham's day-to-day,
and her oldest Chapman could be back on Sunday.
Remember when we used to do that Eric Blank watch?
You know, he's doing Eric Thames.
Let's not do this.
We're changing Erick's.
Let's not do this.
Yeah, we're doing it.
Even though Eric Thames homeward yesterday,
the new Eric watch is the Eric Young Jr.
Watch.
No.
He stole his 6 base, and he's 10% owned.
Eric Young Jr.,
junior watch.
10%.
I mean, the angels like to run, and he can run.
They are letting them run.
They stole two more bases last night.
Maibon got his 20th.
And, I mean, I like them more than Ben Revere.
Well, yeah, Ben Revere doesn't play.
But if they did.
Ben Revere appears to have just completely lost it.
I bet apparently.
Stupid Eric Young.
Okay.
I don't know that I can provide.
any more than that.
You need steals.
Eric Young's 10% owned.
And more for you from yesterday.
How about Matt Adams?
41% owned?
He's doing very well to suffice to say with the Braves.
He's been great.
Let me say this about Matt Adams.
Because we know he can't hit lefties.
The Braves have the fewest at bats in baseball against left-handed pitchers.
Three of the bottom four in that stat at bats against left-handed pitchers are in the NL East.
So there's reason to believe that Matt Adams is going to see a lot of righties.
And he's crushing him.
So just 41% of them.
None of those rotations really have multiple lefties, do they?
Well, the Braves have, well, Jaime Garcia.
He doesn't have to face him.
Do they have anyone else?
The Marlins don't have any, or Jeff Locke right now, I guess is the only one.
The Nationals have GEO.
That's it.
The Mets have mats.
Not a lot of lefties.
Not a lot of lefties, no.
So that's good.
I don't know
I don't know conceivably
how much higher
Adams' ownership percentage can get
because we don't want them as much as Lomo
right? And Lomo's 60-something
Right
I mean
Man's track record better than Lomos
I don't know that that's even true
Matt Adams had one good half season
that got everybody excited where he had a home run
to fly ball rate similar to this year's
but otherwise he's been
kind of
empty everything
He's a 780 OPS for his career.
I feel like Logan Morrison would kill for a 780 OPS for a season.
So you do want Matt Adams more than Logan Morrison?
No, I think it's close.
You're just extending the argument.
I think it's closer.
Okay.
Tell me which two-star pitcher you'd prefer from last night who pitched well,
his two-stars next week.
Francisco Liriano, who's 43% owned and had a good start against Tampa Bay.
Liriano is at Texas and at Kansas City next week.
Or Jordan Zimmerman at Seattle at San Diego.
Laryana or Zimmerman, they're basically owner the same amount of leagues.
I'd rather have Liriano.
Yeah.
His matchups aren't quite as good, but I'd rather have him.
Yeah, just a lot more faith that he's not going to completely ruin me.
And, I mean, I'm still not ruling out the possibility that he bounces back to his Pittsburgh form.
Obviously, this latest start, nine strikeouts and seven innings, a big step in that direction.
By the way, C.C. Sabathia could miss at least a month.
So the fact that it's going to be such a long-term injury,
I think it gives us a better chance of seeing Chance Adams,
better chance.
Chance the pitcher.
I still think it's going to be Chad Green because they did not go to green yesterday.
We'll see.
But at some point it could be Chance Adams.
No chance, go Green.
There you go.
Now, for today's matchups, tell me who you're starting and who you're sitting.
Dodgers are at the Indians, Rich Hill and Josh Tomlin.
I am starting Rich Hill.
And that's it.
Mariners of twins, Ariel Miranda and Jose Burrios.
Burios?
And if I owned Miranda, I think I'd go ahead and put him in there.
All right.
Chris Tillman and David Holmberg.
No thank you.
Chris Tillman, I feel like we're going to get a Chris Tillman D.L. Stint soon.
His velocity's way down since coming back from that shoulder injury.
He's like, I think, two or three miles per hour down.
on his average fastball.
So I will not be starting either of these fellas.
Nope.
Chris Tillman's velocity and ERA almost match.
He's got an 8.01 ERA.
And fastball's a little over 80, but you know, you get the point.
Red Sox and Phillies, Chris Sale and Nick Povetta.
Okay, don't even answer that.
Gio Gonzalez and Robert Gazellman.
I will start Gio.
I want to see who the Mets are playing
because they could have a bunch of backups in the lineup.
I'm not starting Gisalman against this lineup.
But if Giselman does well,
we're going to have to have a big discussion about Giselman.
They're going to be Gubimann tomorrow.
As in bye, not goodbye.
Yeah.
I realize it sounded like I was like doing an Australian accent,
saying goodbye, man.
Robert Gislemaid.
You have to think about that one.
Very meta.
Gio Gonzalez is my favorite non-obvious sell-high candidate.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like it.
All right, cool.
Alex Cobb and Justin Verlander.
Verlander, for sure.
Yeah, and that's it.
I don't trust Cobb without the split change.
Okay.
Zach Davies and Michael Wacha.
Ooh.
Neither.
Ooh, Wachia.
I don't want to start walking against the birds.
He did bounce back last time, but it is dangerous.
I would probably avoid him as well.
I think we're going to avoid Matt Moore in Corse Field.
Are we going to start Jeff Hoffman against the Giants at Corse?
Burnabelt's taking him deep tonight.
I think this will only be his second home start, Scott, before you, you know,
I think he's only had one road.
One start at home for Jeff Hoffman and it wasn't good.
Yeah, but I think I'm going to do it
The Giants are terrible
And like Coorsfield hasn't ruined Hoffman yet
But he's only had one start
Right
But it's going to take several starts
Before he develops the bad habits
That inevitably happened to every young pitcher
Who pitches at Coorsfield
He's not going to suddenly have these habits formed yet
That make it impossible to succeed there
So I am going to star Hoffman
Jordan Montgomery and Sunny Gray
Starting both.
In Oakland.
Matt Strom is pitching tonight at Ricking Alasko.
I'm interested in seeing what Matt Strom does, but I'm not starting.
Okay. He'll be on a pitch count, so I don't think you want to get too risky with Matt Strom.
And that's it for the show. Thank you for listening.
We're back tomorrow with two-star pitchers, your week 12 help, your Thursday recap.
And that's, yeah, goodbye.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
