Fantasy Baseball Today - 06/20 Fantasy Baseball Podcast: Checking on Breakouts and Struggling SPs

Episode Date: June 20, 2017

Before we get into the breakouts, let's talk Cody Bellinger (3:10)! Sell high? Also: Justin Bour or Jose Abreu (10:58)? Mike Zunino or Evan Gattis (14:43)? ... Time to drop or sit Tanner Roark and Marco Estrada (22:15)? Is Gerrit Cole back (25:41)? What's wrong with Dylan Bundy (26:31)? ... We check in on some early-season breakouts (36:15) and give rest of season outlooks before finishing the show with a great round of Team Name Tuesday (43:54) and a preview of tonight's matchups ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And I know you all have been challenging me a lot on the draft app. And I do apologize. I have not been responding because my phone's a little messed up right now. And hardly any of my apps work. So that is not the draft app. fault. That is my fault. And I will try to get that fixed soon and challenge you and hopefully beat you all. All right. That was a good little segment of announcements. What's up, Chris? What is up? Catch your breath. I can take some time. I can. Big Monday in Major League Baseball. A lot going on. Jose Ramirez. Clayton Kershaw didn't have a great star. Cody Bellinger is a star. We got a lot to talk about Adam. You ready? I have read it. It's certainly to talk about Cody Bellinger. And actually, one

thing I want to do today is take a look at some players that we talked about as breakouts earlier in the year and see how they're doing. Some are doing well. Some are doing not so well. And I think we should do this maybe every day this week because there are a lot of names. Like, we haven't talked about Marcelo Zuna in like two months. So, yeah. So he'll be on a different show. But for now, let's talk about the Bellinger of the ball. Cody Bellinger. Get it? And he's, uh, he's real good. And it's interesting comparing him to the breakout star of this season, Aaron Judge. Both strike out a lot, both have for a huge amount of power. Judge has been better this season, but I think it's closer than most people think. At least in terms of skill set. Well, okay, I'll tell you

that since Bellinger was called up, which was April 25th, I didn't, I ran out of time this morning. I didn't see how he's doing in Rodo. I'm assuming he's very close to this, but maybe a little bit worse, maybe a little bit better, because he strikes out a lot. But Bellinger is the number five outfielder in points leagues since being called up on April 25th. I'm almost positive Aaron Judge is number one. In Roto, I think Judge is won, and Bellinger maybe four instead of five. But, yeah, he's the fastest player in baseball history to 21 home runs. He was kind of cold for a little while, but he has snapped out of it.

And I don't know, like 21 walks to 65 strikeouts. doesn't seem like such a bad ratio where I feel like he's going to go in the tank, Cody Bellinger. I mean, he strikes out, he strikes out a lot. But in today's Major League Baseball landscape, 30% strikeout rate, it's not so bad. Like, it's going to be one of the worst marks in baseball, but it's not going to lead baseball at this point when you've got guys who are surviving and thriving like Miguel Snow and Joey Gallo who strike out even more at this point. But is Joey Gallo? Because Joey Gallo is now batting. Like 195, you know, he's, I would say he's slump.

Yeah, but he's still got an OPS around 800. He's still a, he's not quite as useful for fantasy, but he's still a useful player in Major League Baseball. But he strikes out a lot more than Bellinger, right? Yeah, that's what I'm saying, is that Bellinger at this point, like, he stands out in strikeouts, but he's not going to be the worst in baseball. And he is an extreme fly ball hitter is 49%, but he's not falling into the Trevor Story pitch, uh, pitfall. of, you know, hitting a bunch of infield fly balls and sapping his power and his batting average. So, you know, there's a lot to like about what Cody Bellinger is doing right now. Is this the best that we're going to see from Cody Bellinger?

And do you think, because I have Cody Bellinger in a Roto League. I'm leading home runs. And, like, I don't want to not lead in home runs. I don't want to give away Cody Bellinger for nothing and lose my home run lead. But I kind of want to trade him for a starting pitcher. And now it might be the best time. What do you think? Is he going to have a huge year, keep it up all year?

He's not going to have a thousand OPS for the rest of the year, just like Aaron Judge isn't going to have an 1,100 OPS for the rest of the year. You're probably looking at realistically a high 800s, low 900s type of OPS for Cody Bellinger, which is still really good. It's just he won't keep up quite this power pace. I don't think that's an unfair thing to say. So Cody Bellinger is a top blank outfield the rest of season. I just moved him up to number 18, right behind Marcel.

O'Ozuna and Andrew McCutcheon. Andrew McCutcheon. I had to throw that one in there for you. Andrew McCutcheon, dude, I was so, he ruined my birthday yesterday because he homered, and he homered off the top of the wall in right field at Miller Park, which if you ask Keith Cummings is the most inviting place in baseball to hit a home run. He at the top of the freaking wall. And Clint Hurdle, his manager's like, oh, he is effortless power.

The ball just jumped off his bat for one of the probably shortest home runs of the year. No, I look, Andrew McCutcheon's in the notes. He's been great, making me look stupid. And I like Andrew McCutcheon, but he has, by default, become my least favorite player because it's me against him. He's got like an 1,100 OPS since getting those two days off. I know. It's either that or because he's batting sixth or both. Yeah, last night's home run would have been out in only 13 of the 30 Major League Baseball Stadium.

Okay. And it hit the top of the wall and bounced over. Any other big time standouts from yesterday that you want to talk about? All right. So I'm not sure if the answer to this question is yes, but it needs to be asked. Are we sure Max Scher isn't at least as good as Clayton Kirchall? Yes. Max Scher did the pitch last night.

But Clayton Kirchall did, and he wasn't great. No, Clayton Kirschild might have his worst year in like five years and still lead baseball and ERA. Right now, no. Right now he's, what he is, a 261. All the way up to 261. But four home runs. Career high, four home runs for Kershaw.

Two of them to Jose Reyes. Two of them, Jose Reyes. One of them do a lefty, J. Bruce. And yeah, he's, I guess, struggling. Look, it's less any amount of concern about Clayton Kershaw. Right. And more, has Max Scherzer, has Clayton Kershaw come back to the pack enough

and has Max Scherzer separated himself enough? You know, it looked like Chris Sale might have separated himself a little bit early, but he's hit a bit of a rough patch. Has Max Scherzer gotten to Clayton Kershaw's level? Well, I guess I'd say no, just because Kershaw entered yesterday with a two... Yeah, 223. Yeah, 223. And that's high for him.

Because the last three years he's been 181, 199, and 180. So I'm going to say no, because I don't think Kershaw... I don't think Scherzer's ever been below like 265, right? Yeah, it's actually, it's weird. Clayton Kershaw has kind of picked up some of Max Scherzer's home run issues. He's giving up 10 in his last four starts. Yeah, and a lot of those were two starts. He gave up seven in two starts in his last five.

But I guess let's just get it out there now. We're not worried about Kershaw. Not at all. Hey, real quick. Let's do a round of hey real quick, which probably will be real quick, since there's only one of you on today. Who are you more excited about right now? The number three outfielder over the last 28 days

or the number 10 outfielder over the last 28 days, Matt Adams or Andrew McCutcheon? Well, it's obviously the guy who's ranked lower over the last month. McCutcheon. Well, it's mostly just track record there. Matt Adams, what, four years ago, looked like he might be a breakout star, and then he's just kind of been a guy over the last few years.

He's been really good since getting the Braves, but I think you have to default to Andrew McCutcheon's track record here. Yes, I agree. But Matt Adams, it is, you know, it's been since he went to the Braves. So either you move down to six in the order like Andrew McCutcheon or you change teams like Matt Adams and you go to the Braves. I'm just going to look up the splits right now and see how he's doing it. The park where you can trust the ball is going to hit the sun.

He is batting 296 with six home runs in SunTrust Park in 20 games with a 634 slugging percentage. She's been ridiculous. So, look, I mean, I just, we just have to take maybe Matt Adams a little bit more seriously. What do you think here? He is owned in 63% of leagues. I guess it's getting fairly serious with Adams. Yeah, it's so hard.

The fact that he's outfield eligible helps, because, like, we talked about with all these first basemen this year, he's about as owned as Logan Morrison at this point, and Logan Morrison's been doing it for longer. Yeah. So it's just, it's so hard to say Matt Adams needs to be owned, but he probably should be in all roto leagues at the very least. Head to head, it's a little harder to find room for him in your lineup when you don't have that corner infield spotter. You don't need a fifth outfielder. It's just because he's not going to keep this kind of production up. So it's just a question of when he reverts to the mean, he's not going to be better than Justin Boar. No, he's not. And that's Matt Adams we're talking about, which brings me to my next question. Hey, real quick. Justin Bohr or Jose Abraeu rest of season? I still have Abraeu pretty comfortably ahead of Justin Boer. Mostly just because Scott in particular might have a different answer. I know he's been more bought into Justin Boar,

but for me it's just Justin Boar's been just pretty okay for like three or four years in the majors now. And then all of a sudden, two months are supposed to change. our fundamental view of this guy. I just, I have trouble making that kind of adjustment. I moved him up to 15 at first base, but I still have Jose Bray on the top 10. All right. So this is what's kind of interesting about fantasy sports and fantasy baseball, okay, because we are going to check in on some breakouts. Some of them haven't kept it up. Kevin Pilar is an example of someone we thought maybe was breaking out. But I really think a lot of them have. I mean, you know, A. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. O. H. H.e. O.S.

Like he comes off the DL and he's just crushing it again. He had a grand slam yesterday. He hit a homer off a lefty on Saturday, I think. Friday, yeah, Friday it was. He sat on Saturday. But, yeah, Nukum, I think he homered off. No, Garcia, anyway, on Friday. But, like, Abraeu, if he hits 290, if he has like an 830 OPS,

you know, he's basically doing the same thing he's done the past two seasons. The way first basement are hitting right now, like 290, 28-ish home runs or something, that's not necessarily top 12 production. It's good, it's consistent. There's a lot of first baseman who are hitting way better than that right now that we don't necessarily expect to keep that out. But that's kind of what I was getting to. Do we not expect them to keep it on?

Okay, maybe Justin Bore's not going to be this good, but is he going to be better than an 8.30 OPS rest of season? I think that's pretty realistic. And I think he doesn't have that long of a track record of being mediocre. You know, he's got a pretty short career so far. So maybe this is a legit breakout. I don't know how, I don't know what to, you tell me, how do you decide what's legit and what's not? I'm going to default first to the most recent production, like the longer term track record recently.

So, you know, last three years. And I guess I look at Justin Boren, he had an 824 OPS last year. He had an 800 OPS in 2015. So it's not like he's been that far off of Jose Bray, but he was doing that as a platoon. Right, right. And so the big question is, can he hit lefties? And this year, he certainly can. He's hitting 378 against them with five of his eight, six of his 18 home runs.

This is like Corey Dickerson. You know, Cory Dickerson couldn't hit lefties. And now he's hitting lefties. And, you know, you're just hoping a guy like Justin Boar keeps his head above water against lefties. You're hoping for like a 750 OPS. He's at 1273. So that's what you see regressing. Yeah, the question is how much does that regress?

And it's, look, Justin Bore needs to be owed across the board. It just wouldn't shock me if he was in, like, the Matt Adams range in a month. Okay, so Justin Bore or Carlos Santana? I saw Santana a little bit ahead. He had a good game yesterday. Well, they all had a good game yesterday. You know what? The Indians are killing it right now.

Jose Armeris has been seven straight games with a double, seven straight games. games with multiple hits. 10 doubles in those seven games. That's insane. Devin Travis-esque. Devin Travis-esque. Okay, hey, real quick, Evan Gaddis or Mike Zanino, rest of season? I have to go with Evan Gattis.

I know Mike Zanino's been incredible since coming back from the minors in late May, I think May 23rd or something. He's hitting 3.38, right? Eight home runs, six home runs in the month of June. He's been really, really good. nine home runs since being recalled, 23 games. But he's still striking out 40% of the time. He's got a 486 Babbitt.

This is probably a 190 to hitter at this point. Five walks, 35 strikeouts. And they just keep talking about Zanino, who home were twice yesterday since coming back, you know, the adjustments in his swing. Here's the other part of this equation, though. First of all, believe it or not, Zanito got sent down. They have almost the same amount of plate appearances Zanino and Gattis. The other part of this equation is that Gattis is not having

that good of a year, he has four home runs. Well, Gattis is weird because he's not hitting that poorly. Like, his average is still pretty good. His OPS is above 800, isn't it? He's batting 270 with four home runs, 13 walks, 24 strikeouts, and 45 games. You expect more power. I feel like if he were playing more regularly, he would be giving you more power, but he doesn't play enough.

You know, I'm still going to bank on Beltron or McCann missing a little bit of time, and that would be huge for Gattis. but as of now, like, he just doesn't play enough. He's the number 14 catch-up points, number 16 in Roto. The way I've used Sennino is, like, it's fine to ride the hot hand with him. That makes sense, but just understand that this isn't going to last. He had, I don't believe, like, his hard hit rate since coming back is actually really good. It's, I think, one of the best in the majors, but that kind of stuff can fluctuate when you get hot as well.

But what if he really just made the swing adjustments and stance adjustments, as he said, in the minors? and now he's, the average is crazy for a guy who has five walks, 35 strikeouts hit 338 since being recalled. That's crazy. But we know he has power. What if it's a lot more prodigious at this point, you know? Yeah, I just, the 40% strikeout rates where I get caught up on that is that if he was this new kind of player, we would see it there as well, wouldn't we? And it's just, you know, like we're talking about with Cody Bellinger, Mike Zanino's the kind of guy who might be the worst strikeout hitter in baseball. And that puts a cap. If Joey Gallo, who we know has as much power as anyone in baseball, do we think Mike Zanino has Joey Gallo power? I don't know. And so, Joey Gallo would be really

valuable as a catcher, but I'm not sure Mike Zinino is even Joey Gallo. All right. Well, you know, we got an email from Robert from Lodi, California, I believe, which is a popular spot in Sons of Anarchy. You ever see that show? I've never seen it. Yeah. I like, the lead guy, though. He's good. He's good. Apparently, he was going to be cast in 50 Shades of Grey, which my fiance would have liked very much. She's a big fan of his. But no. I'm never going to watch that movie, by the way, so everybody knows. Zinino or Lucroi, who would you rather have? Chris is going to say Luke Cray. It's got to

be Lou Croy. Yeah. All right. Hey, we got some news and notes for you. We also have a terrific round of team name Tuesday coming up later. Yankee shortstop prospect, Glabert Torres, is out for the season. He needs Tommy John surgery on his non-throwing arm, and Torres is expected to be ready for spring training. Tough break for you prospect hounds. Yep. Michael Brantley on the deal with a sprain ankle.

Tough break for you, Brantley hounds, all of you out there. How dropable do you think Michael Brantley is? I still want to snatch him. I hope that he's been a little cold. I hope that's just because he's been dealing with the sprained ankle since May. Yeah, it has been a bit of a nagging thing for him. him. Dustin Bidroyo day-to-day. Gene Seguerra could be back Friday. Anthony Rizzo collided with Austin Hedges and the Padres are peeved, Chris. Yeah, I would expect Anthony Rizzo will get hit

with a baseball tomorrow because baseball's stupid. It's not clear if this was legal, based on everything I've read today and watching the replay. It's not clear to me. Now, you are allowed to collide with catcher. It basically never happens anymore, but you're allowed to collide with him if he's in your like base path basically. Yeah. You're not allowed to go out of the base path to climb with him. You're not allowed to like redirect your route to intentionally collide with him, which it kind of looks like Anthony Rizzo did.

Yeah, the catcher is not supposed to set up in the base path. Like that's supposed to be a base route. But he didn't set up in the base path. He got the ball and then he moved into the base paths, which is fine. And then if you do that, you are allowed to get clobbered. But if you watch what Rizzo did, he veered off to his left and then, boom, he's Kid Hedges, who's a little shaken up day-to-day, it seems. I don't know.

It seemed like unnecessary contact, but I don't know that you're not allowed to do it. I'd like to give a steaming hot take on this. It's like a-it-a-hot take on this. It's like a-it-a-law kind of thing. Yeah. If you're allowed to do it, then I think it's fine. I mean, I wish people would plow the catcher more because you're allowed to do it. It's like, ever since they put in the new rules, people have been like, oh, you can't touch the catcher.

That's just not true. Yeah. Well, well, anyway. Where are we here? Oh, yeah. Zach Kozart. Zach Kozart is on the DL with a right quad strain. J.J. Hardy's on the DL with a broken wrist.

Josh Reddick is off the DL. And Derek Fisher sent you, Homer, Chris, and you get sent back to AAA. Derek Fisher. I was pretty worried about this because I was pretty strong in my Derek Fisher's not going to stay up in the majors take. And he was hitting really well. I was really worried he was going to make me look dumb. So thanks to the Angels or the Astros. The ask us, did he get, for all you basketball fans out there, did Derek Fisher get in bad against Matt Barnes?

I didn't see anything, and I assume it would have been at least a minor story given the Derek Fisher, Matt Barnes stuff. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Derek Fisher is dating or is he engaged to or married to. Matt Barnes is X. They're a thing. Yeah, I'm not sure what the specifics of it are. Check him on Facebook.

I try to not. I try to avoid the guy. gossipy side of sports as much as possible. And they were teammates, folks. Yes. Matt Barnes is not somebody I'd want to mess with. Anthony Rendon, day-to-day with a neck injury. AJ Pollock, oh boy, AJ Pollock.

Recovering from a groin injury, out on a rehab assignment, and he left a game with quad tightness. So, uh-huh. Tim Beckham day-to-day after being hit by a pitch on the hand. Lance McCuller's expected to start this weekend. Atlanta's going to go six-man in their rotation, at least temporarily, Bartolo Colon, back off the DL tomorrow. Eric Sogard.

Okay, Eric Sogarde appears to be the starter for the brewers, even when Jonathan V.R. comes back. And V.R. could begin a rehab assignment this week. So it looks like Sogarde is in. Even against lefties? I don't know. Yeah. VR and Arcia, I guess, we'll switch off a little bit. But, yeah.

Just what we need it. Make the Brewers more confusing and crowded. Wilson Ramos could be back next week. Kyle Schwerber's day-to-day, he fouled the ball off his ankle. Reminded everybody, Swarber has three appearances at catcher this season. In CBS leagues, he needs five to gain eligibility. Jason Hayward and Addison Russell did not start, but Russell entered the game with a double switch. And let's check on some struggling starting pitchers, Chris.

They were struggling going into yesterday. Are they still struggling? Tanner Roark, Marco Estrada. Ugh. Roark, six runs in two and two-thirds. Estrada, six runs in three and two-thirds. and that's a 12607 ERA and his last four starts for Estrada.

Are Roark or Estrada, are either of them dropable? I guess Roarka is just because you don't expect him to have a ton of upside. Anyway, like he can be a pretty good run prevention pitcher like he was last season or in 2014, but he's not going to strike out a lot of guys. His whip is going to be just okay. He's not like, he's not necessarily someone you'll miss if he turns it around.

And the weird thing for him is that it's not clear what's gone wrong so far this season. He's still getting a decent number of ground balls. He's still strikeout rate right where it was last season. It's not 100% clear if this is just bad luck. He's not inducing as much soft contact as he was last year. So that could be the answer. Well, Tanner Railark is 40th right now, and Chris's non-updated rankings.

So let's take a look at who's behind Tanner Rowark and tell me if you're moving any of these guys ahead of him. Jimmy Nelson. Yeah. Yeah, after last night, I'll do that. Joe Ross. No. I probably need to move Joe Ross, too.

Aaron Sanchez. Right there. Irvin Santana. I'm going to take Irvin Santana over Roark. For right now, yeah. I'm not sure the, they're kind of both this, you're kind of hoping for the same thing from them. Just induce enough weak contact to make up for mediocre peripherals. who's in your top 50, Jordan Montgomery.

Yeah, I like Jordan Montgomery. I've been saying it all season. I know the results haven't exactly been fantastic, but I really like the skill set. I like what he's doing. Are you going to move Jordan Montgomery ahead of Roark? You know, they've got the same walk rate. Jordan Montgomery gets more strikeouts.

He's got a better ERA right now. He is a fly ball pitcher in Yankee Stadium, which is a concern. But I might. What are we doing about Marco Estrada? He's 30th right now for you. He's a completely different pitcher than he's ever been before. He's above a strikeout per inning, which he's never been,

and his BABIP is 80 points higher than his career mark. I would expect the latter to turn around, the Babbup to turn around, but you worry about a guy who gets by without great stuff, who all of a sudden is getting rocked. I'm not dropping Marco Estrada, though. Well, Estrada has, like I said, a 1267 ERA in his last four starts. He had a six-start stretch late last year with a 753 ERA. It was not this bad, but it wasn't good.

And then he turned it around. He finished off pretty strong, and he was good in the playoffs. So I'm hopeful that Estrada can turn it around, but like I say, every time he pitches poorly now, you know, he doesn't throw hard. He's a change-up specialist. And when he's not on, he's throwing meatballs over the plate and they get crossed. And a lot of his success comes from pitching differently than everyone else. He's, you know, the high fastball guy. He pitches, you know, he doesn't move side to side in the zone.

He moves up and down. I guess maybe it's a situation where maybe batters are just catching up to a different look. All right. I certainly hope that Marco Estrada can get out of this little funk here, and maybe Garrett Cole has gotten out of his funk, Chris. What do you think? Now, only six swinging strikes in each of his last two starts, but both of them have been seven innings, three hits and one run,

one against Colorado last night at Milwaukee. Garakol has gone seven straight starts with eight or fewer swinging strikes. You do want to see him get more ground balls. I think he has been doing that the last couple games. But 14 innings, two runs over his last two starts. Is that enough to make you think Garret Cole is back? I'm not sure he's back to 2015 levels, but I still have him in my top 25. McCullors or Cole?

McCullors. Garrett Cole or I'm going to just take a look at a look. or rankings, so I don't sound like an idiot. Garak Cole or Burrios? I still have Cole better, but a couple more good starts from Burios and I can move him ahead. Dylan Bundy was crap last night. He said he had

nothing. And I would have to agree based on the box score. Four and a third, six runs. Three walks, two strikeouts. It's two kind of shaky ones in a row. Yeah, two of his three worst starts of the season. Uh-oh. Worried about Bundy? Well, last week, week, I brought up as a silver lining. I think it was whoever he pitched against, maybe the Red Sox last week.

White Sox. I brought up as a silver lining that at least his fastball velocity was at a season high 93.3 miles per hour. Last night, it was down to 91 miles an hour with his four seam fastball. 2.3 miles per hour, lower than it was a week ago. That's definitely a concern. Well, yeah, but we've seen that from Bundy in the past where he's had like one start where it's just been terrible and then he's been able to get back to a decent. and velocity. But I was hoping he was trending upwards. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to pause. No, no, I'm going to keep this game going here, and then I'm going to do a fun,

different thing. Johnny Quato. Johnny Quedo and John Lester both had good starts yesterday. I'm just, I think, I feel like you have no concerns about these guys. Yeah, I've barely moved them. They're both top seven in my starting pitcher rankings right now, actually. Quato and Lester, okay. Yeah.

Chris, I want you to pick a position. Pick any position you want. Short stuff. Short stop. going to look at Chris Towers shortstop rankings in Roto. I'm going to just pick what I think is the absolute worst ranking of his. Okay. All right.

This is Roto. We'll pick out your shortcomings next. You please do. I think the obvious one is Jonathan R.R. 8. He needs to move down. Yeah. I've just, the problem I run into is, like, I look at the guys below him, and I'm not 100% buying Elvis Andreas.

I'm not buying Zach Cozart. D.D. Gregorius is just okay. Okay. All right, your worst one is Trevor's story at 15. Too low? Too low. Too low. Here's who you have ahead of Trevor's story.

He's 15th, going from 14 to higher. Eleadmus Diaz, Adison Russell, Dita Gregorius, Jose Paraza. Now Zach Cozart is on the D.L. Trevor's story needs to be 10 ahead of Cozart, Paraza, Dedi, D, D, Russell, and Diaz. In fact, he needs to be nine ahead of VR as well. I guess. I don't know. Trevor's story's been so bad this season.

I know. There have only been very fleeting signs of life. His swing has been sort of broken this season. He still has as many infield fly balls as home runs, which is a really bad sign. I think in Trevor's story, we're seeing the downside of the fly ball revolution. We're seeing just someone taking it too far, elevating too much, getting under too many balls. and it's leading to too much weak contact for him. Interesting.

Interesting. Yeah. I mean, like, got like... But you're right. I'll move him to 10. I can move Jonathan v. R below him, yeah. All right, cool. Hey, this is constructive, Chris.

Thank you. Now, come on, point out a laser shortcoming. Um, I don't have rankings, so it's going to have to be personal. Yeah, I don't want to be mean. You don't have rankings. That's a shortcoming. You get to sit in your tower, you sit in your ivory tower, mocking us, calling us, out for our bad rankings, but you don't have any skin in the game, you know?

Wow. Oh, if Heath were here, I'm sure he would have been able to come up with something off the cover, by the way. He's much meaner. Pointing out my shortcomings. All right, we have some emails to get to, Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. It's Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. We have team named Tuesday coming up.

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Ziprecruiter.com slash strike. Email of the day number one is from Blake in Santa Barbara. And he says, dear Leo, Morty, and Frank. That's Seinfeld, right? That is Seinfeld. Do you think any of these jags will be more than just jags at some point this year? Let's refresh people's memory on what a jag is. It stands for just the guy.

which means, you know, replaceable. Will these Jags be more than Jags at some point this year? Ian Hap, Wittmerfield, Pat Nysheck, Jed Jerko, Logan Forsyth. Well, I guess if you have to fire up the Jagger and rank them, you probably put Ian Hap at the top just because of the potential for him to develop into something more. He was really good in AAA this year. He's shown really good power. It's just the plate discipline's been pretty mediocre so far.

I'm also not sure. Jed Jerker is a player I've had a lot of trouble with in my rankings. I'm not sure quite where to put him. I'm not sure if he's a Jack. I've got him 20th at Shortstop, but going back to the last season, he's been a pretty good player. Yeah, Jerker's always one that's stood out.

Multiple eligibility. Yeah, and Jerko at Shortstop. I'm actually am surprised he's like 15th at Shortstop so far this season. he's been in a pretty big slump, but it's not as bad of a slump as what we used to get from Jed Jerko. So maybe he hasn't been any good in June. But I think the big thing is that despite having nine home runs and an OPS north of 800, he only has 26 runs and 28 RBI.

I think that's probably the explanation. You think, well, he's playing pretty much every day. That should improve. But he only had 59 RBI and 58 runs last year. So he's kind of an all or nothing guy, I guess. What about Whit Merrifield? I'm having a really tough time buying in. And yeah, I think he's probably just a jag.

What about Logan Forsyth? One of my big disappoint. Luckily, I didn't have it on any teams, but I thought he was going to have a good year. He's been terrible Forsyth. I think he's just kind of the definition of a jag at second base and third base. He's just, even when he's good, he's just kind of okay. Pat Nyshek, we'll see.

If he gets to the closer's role, that's it. That's it, that he can be. But, you know, he's probably still a jag at closer. He's the kind of guy that's going to get traded. Yeah. It would be a great candidate to get traded out of that Phillies bullpen and probably into a setup role. Email of the day number two is from Ryan and St. Louis.

Buy or sell, Justin Turner is the NL batting champ. And by or sell, I am a combined 17 and 3 versus scamming. Kreeh in the podcast for the People League. Sell the last one. I don't know how that could be possible. That's got to be true. I haven't even checked, but that's got to be true.

Our teams are too good. I don't see how anybody could... If you combine our wins and only take one of our losses, then yes, our teams are too good. But otherwise, no. I'm sure that this guy has said that Ryan is 17 and 3 against us. Justin Turner NL batting champ. Justin Turner's batting 399 right now in 48 games with four home runs.

He has homered in two straight games. Justin Turner has got to be one of the most confusing players. He's different every year. Yeah, he was another one of the fly ball revolution guys, an early adopter over the last couple of seasons, and his fly ball rate has actually stayed where it was last year. He's at 39.3%, 37.1% hard contact rate. You add all that up, and you would expect him to hit for pretty decent power.

And he's got a 6.8 homeruner on the fly ball ratio, but he's got a 445 Babb to make up for it. So he's just kind of, he's had a little bit of bad luck, a little bit of good luck. You put it all together. I think Justin Turner is still a very good hitter, and it's just he's been a weird, different sort of very good hitter than I would have expected this season. Is he going to win the NL batting title? I will sell that. Okay, well, he is hitting $3.99.

So is he going to hit 20 home runs? Justin Turner has four right now. Yeah, he'll definitely get to 20. Okay. Justin Turner or Jose Ramirez, rest of season. I would probably go Ramirez, but I think it's pretty close. Turner is not actually qualified for the batting title, but among qualifiers, Buster Posey and Ryan Zimmerman are batting 347 and 346 respectively.

So he's got a nice little lead. Yeah, yeah. Okay, it's time to check on some breakouts, including Jose Ramirez. So the point of this little section, segment here, we'll do team name Tuesday after this, It's a look at players that we were excited about earlier in the year that were breaking out. See how they're doing now. And you just tell me your rest of season prognosis, or prediction. For Travis Shaw, who has three home runs in his last seven games.

He is a top six third baseman. He really hasn't slowed down. And he actually has seven steals this year, which is nice. Strikeouts are down. Ground balls are up. Travis Shaw. Top 12 third baseman. Yeah?

You buying it? Rest the season? Yeah, that's where I have him. I have number 12. One spot behind Justin Turner. E. E. Eugenio Suarez was a nice breakout for a month. He's actually still a top 12 third baseman, eighth and points, 11th in Roto.

Suarez is batting 274 with 11 home runs and three steals. Since May 1st, Euhaneo Suarez is number 18 in points, number 20 in Roto at third base, with a 245 batting average and six home runs. 21 walks, 246 strikeouts, which really isn't that bad. It's a lot of strikeouts, but it's a lot of walk. too. Ehio Hano Suarez, your thoughts? I have him 20th. I never really bought the breakout.

I think he's probably too owned at 91%. He's dropable. Castianos or Suarez? Castianos. Kevin Pilar is now 70% owned. He's batting 150 in his last 24 games with three steals and only 11 runs. But actually bat 150 in 24 games and score 11 runs. It's not that bad. He had a 32-game stretch, Kevin Pilar, with a 321 batting average, six homers, and seven steals. But he has been terrible for three to four weeks. Kevin Pilar. I never really bought into the breakout, so I'm not particularly disappointed by this stretch.

And you think he's dropable, Pilar? Yeah. I picked him up in a league for like a dollar, five outfieler league where I need steals, and I'm just hoping you can get me some of those. Because he had a close to 30-steel season, I think it was 25, two years ago. 25 in 2015. I believe he was a top 30 outfielder around there. But part of that was probably games played.

Justin Smoke is now this is one you didn't buy into either, and he's kept it going. Number 10 first basement in points, number 7 in Roto, Smokes batting 300 with 20 homers. One thing I don't like from Smoke, he has only seven doubles. That is a crazy low. And maybe that means if he's not homering,

he's not going to be that good, I don't know. but you tell me Justin Smoke rest of season Yeah I mean the seven doubles He probably has a few of those that just snuck over the fence That probably would have been doubles if they hadn't been home run So I'm not sure that Changes his outlook all that much He's got such a long track record of being so bad

That it's really hard for me to buy into it But it's getting harder and harder to ignore it I just How high can you realistically move him at first base? I've got, okay, Brandon Belt's number 17 for me. I can move him down, but I still like Brandon Belt's skill set. I've got Jay Bruce 18. He's enjoying a nice bounce back slash breakout season.

Travis Shaw's 19, Desmond, Ryan Healy, Chris Davis, Justin Smoke. But forget about where to rank him among first baseman. All of these guys, except maybe Belt, need to be owned and probably started. These are utility players for a lot of people. You know, is Justin Smoke that rest of season, in your opinion? I think he's a useful utility. Yeah, I'm not necessarily buying the breakout 100%, but I think a utility who can be an 800 OPS bad is still useful.

Yeah, you look at a guy like Jose Ramirez, who was on, you know, he started a year with 1,000 OPS and six home runs in his first 22 games. He looked like a real breakout. And then he went really cold, 24 games. He batted 195 with one home run, a 581 OPS. And that's what's happening with Kevin Pilar right now, by the way. So just keep that in mind. And now the last 21 games for Jose Ramirez, batting 4-24, with 15 doubles, four homers, five steals, four walks, nine strikeouts.

So, you know, look, this is just what's really tough about it. How do you know when a guy's just slumping? How do you know when a guy's just not as good as what he did in a previous stretch? Like, what's the difference between Kevin Pilar now and Jose Ramirez three weeks ago? Jose Ramirez did it last year So that's part of it I mean not this good But he had the breakout last season

And I just think you You ride the ebbs and flows And you should still default Towards the long term You know Track record I guess that's a little different For guys like Yonder Alonzo

But you do have to Take into account what they've done in the past And I think the next guy we're going to talk about Is a good example of this Avi Garcia? Yeah, I just, I still can't buy it. I just, there's no, there's no real sign in his, in his underlying skill set that it's changed all that much. His hard hit rate is identical to what it was last year, his line drive rate, pretty much where it was.

The big difference is his, Babs 100 points higher, and if it wasn't, he'd be a jack. Avi Garcia, okay, so that's one you're just not buying. He's a number 21 outfielder in points, number 15 in Roto. Yeah, maybe I don't think I've moved him in my top 50. Maybe I can do that, but I really think he's going to be someone that we're dropping come July. When you look at a player in a slump, how important is the walk-to-strikeout ratio? Like Jose Ramirez, for example, now I'm looking at a 25-game stretch. I think I said 24 earlier.

239 batting average with one home run, but six walks, 11 strikeouts. Right now, Kevin Pilar has four walks to 20 strikeouts and his 24-game slum. Do you look at the walk-to-strike-out ratio and say, okay, this guy is more likely to come out of it. This is just a bad batting average stretch. Sure. Like, Eric Thames is a really good example of that. When he was ice cold for about a month, still walking a bunch, strike-out rate wasn't outrageous. I think that is a good teller of, you know, he's still, he's not lost.

Right, right. Okay, last guy. Stephen Sousa has now homered in two straight and three of his last five. Over the last 28 days, Sousa, who is 66% owned, is the number eight outfielder in points leagues and Roto leagues. Now, he had recently a 22-game stretch with a 147 batting average, one home run, 16 walks in 22 games, which is great, 32Ks. So Sousa has been, like, great at the start of the year, then terrible for 22 games, and now a top eight outfielder over the last month. What do you think, Susa? I think we're seeing a bit of a breakout from him,

mostly because he's cut the strikeout rate down from 34% last year to 28%. He was like absurdly high, especially for a right-handed batter. You just don't see right-handed batters with strikeout rates above 30% unless they're like Mark Reynolds 10 years ago. But the fact that he's improved that, the plate discipline's been really good overall. You know, 2-1 strikeout to walk ratio for a guy. who strikes out that much is great. Yeah, I think the skill set is there to sustain an improvement.

It's just, you know, he's under-owned in the 66% range. I'm not sure he needs to be 100% owned, though. Would you go Sousa or Mazzara? I'll go Sousa. Sousa or Shebler, who also homered yesterday. I'll go Schepler. Sousa or Hunter Renfro? Sousa.

Tusa or team name Tuesday? Team name Tuesday. It is team name Tuesday. This is from Daniel. 150Ks of Gray. Yeah, that's good. Now he wants to know, do you think John Gray will have over or under 150 strikeouts rest of season?

That's a ton. You definitely take the under. Yeah, that's a ton. That would be about a 260 strikeout pace for a full season. I don't think John Gray is going to get that. but he's going to be well over a strikeout printing guy and a must-start guy away from Cores. Top 30 rest of season, Daniel wants to know.

John Gray. The 25 to 35 range is so full of guys who could go either way that he might sneak in there, but I'm not going to rank him in my top 30 now. All right, it's John Gray. Let's go to our next team name Tuesday. It is from Jason in Atlanta. The last of the Mahiakins?

New kids. Yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, no, I get it. Who is he specifically referring to? Yeah, actually, that's a good question. Adaberto Mahia. I'm thinking of like Henry Mahia, the next guy from like five years ago. Adelberto Mejia of the twins.

Ah, there you go. New kids on Ty Block. That's good. That is very good. And Ryu always lying. I don't get that one. I guess it's why you always lying? Is that a thing?

I don't know. We haven't talked to music at all, Chris. No, we haven't. That's probably good. What crappy music did you listen to yesterday? The new Lord album is just fantastic. Really? It is full of bangers.

Really? Yeah. Really good. And the new Jason Isbell album is also really good. How often does she say the word care? Because she always goes, care. She's got a weird voice. Yeah, she's got some weird tics, I would.

say, but that album's got some absolute bangers, for sure. All right, that's kind of a Lord drinking game. I don't know if it exists on this bangers album, but the word cares. Just seems to love it. I'll keep an eye out for it. Also, Jason, who suggested New Kids on Tie Block, which is his best, wants us to talk about Evan Longoria. He's been off to a tough start.

I thought he would regress off last year to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What do you think about Evan Longoria? You know, there were some concerns that he wouldn't be able to keep up last year's power breakout and that's what we're seeing. And, you know, the rest of the skill set seems mostly similar. And without the 36 home runs, he's kind of just a guy. His fly ball rate has regressed down to 34% from 47% last year. And that kind of tells the whole story there.

He's not going to be a very good power guy. And if he's not a very good power guy, like we saw in 2015, he's pretty replaceable at third base. I don't think he's in my top 20. Would you like to have your mind blown? Yes. Over the last... Well, I don't know who I was looking this up for,

but what you can do, it's kind of cool feature in our stats page and our leagues. You go to, like, players and stats. You can do a custom report and select your date range. So I, for whatever reason, was looking at all third basemen... Probably for Jose Ramirez. All third baseman since May 1st. And... No, I was for Jed Jerk.

Who cares? Evan Longoria's 10th in points leagues. I don't know where he is in... Roto. Huh. But 16 walks, 27 strikeouts is pretty good. I mean, the numbers aren't really that good. 272 with six home runs.

That's not a lot. So I don't really care about this. That's pretty mediocre. I feel like there might just be a bunch of guys slumping. 12 doubles is good. So he's been better in points than Roto. Yeah. It's been better than Chris Bryant, who's batting 239 in that stretch.

I'll still take Chris Bryant. Just by a hair. But yeah, I'll take Chris Bryant. Brian. All right. This is, uh, let's see. Who wrote this? I don't know. Somebody from San Dimas, California. Hey, Jimmy, Mike, and Tuko. That's a great show that Chris doesn't watch because he's busy listening to Lord albums. That's a better call Saul. Seinfeld team names for you. I was in the pools. Yeah. That's excellent. Not that there's many things wrong with that. That's good. Can't stand in you. That's good.

So no soup for you. Very good. Odor the Shmoopy. All right. Yeah, this is really good. The question is, how is Didi not ranked higher than Eduardo Nunez? Is it shortstop? I guess in Roto, you're looking for the stolen bases from Eduardo Nunez, Didi Grigorous.

He's a power hitter in an era where everybody hits for power. I'm not sure I buy the batting average increase this year. And this is from Oh, also he says Love the podcast, Raisins, Crush Craisons And Chris loves Matt Moore Terrific From Jaime

Witt Men Can't Slump That's good That's great And there's something about Merrifield Very good I'm glad we got two Whitmerfield Team games in here On a day he's not in the office

This is great Double Dongs yesterday Other than Cody Bellinger Was Jose Reyes And Mike Zino We talked about them But Reyes is Homer three times In his last four games

Do you care? Do not go gently into that quiet night, Jose Reyes. Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Two-man rotation. Clayton Kershaw was bad. Corey Klobber was great. Complete game shutout, three hits, no walks, 11 strikeouts. Woo!

His slider has been like Bugs Bunny style since coming off the DL. He looks great. Since coming off the DL in four starts, Klubers 3-0, 161 ERA, four walks, 39 strikeouts in 20. at innings. Fringey starting pitchers. Brad Peacock is 83% owned. Almost got you a quality start. He's getting closer and closer to getting you six innings. But it's encouraging. I mean, four and two thirds, or five and two thirds, four hits, one run, two walks, eight strikeouts at Oakland. Jason Hamill was very good again. He's got five quality starts in his last six, and

seven runs in 27 and a third with one walk, 19 strikeouts in his last four against some good opponents. So, Peacock, Hamill, Wheeler, rank those three. Wheeler, two dreadful starts in a row. Peacock, Hamiller. I would go Peacock, Wheeler, Hamill, but I do want to see if

maybe Wheeler's just like running out of gas a little after not pitching at all last season. Maybe they need to pull back on him just a bit, maybe skip a start. How do you feel about Hamill right now at 42% owned? I'm not particularly excited. I was maybe a little

too dismissive yesterday when we were going over the potential for him. But I just, I think he's okay. But he's still a fly ball pitcher who doesn't get a lot of strikeout. So it's hard to get too excited about him. He's going well right now. The Royals are helping him out. But the ex-fit for the season is still 5.30. One thing that also that maybe I screwed up on yesterday talking about Hamill's two

matchups, Boston and Toronto. maybe we're giving too much credit to Boston, especially when they don't have Padraea in the lineup. Like, their top of the order is still really good, but Betts is having a down year right now. Bogart's hit two homers on Sunday, so. But, you know, he's been very good. Let's, okay, he's been great.

I think the big thing with the Red Sox is they don't have a lot of pop. No, they don't. They're not a good home run team. And the bottom of their order stinks. So. Yeah, I think they're in the bottom, like, six or seven in team ISO. They are also in the bottom two in strikeout rate, though, and that's what makes it hard for me to target them, even if they don't have a ton of guys who can punish you. This is still a pretty good offense, and it's a pretty good offense that just doesn't strike out very much.

That's true. It's still shocking that the Astros have the lowest strikeout rate as a team in baseball. They do? Yeah. Wow. It's stunning. Yeah, they're terrific. How about any of these guys interested?

Scott Feldman, R.A. Dickie, Sam Gavillio, who probably will be out of the first. rotation by the weekend, possibly, possibly. And Daniel Gossett. Scott Feldman, R.A. Dickie, Sam Gavillo, Daniel Gossett. No. Dickie, the random number generator, came up good last night. But I think Scott Feldman's the most owned of this group, and he probably should be. And even that, he might be over-owned at 32%.

Dickie's 10% owned. If you're in a deep league, he has been saying, like, he's close. He's close. He knew it. His knuckleball was getting better. and his last two starts have been awesome. Oh, no, actually, two of his last three starts have been awesome. One of them was five innings, eight runs at Washington.

And that was the one good team he faced in that group. I'm not even going to try to recommend Ari Dickey to anybody. That would be mean. Mean thing to do. Let's look at today's matchups, Chris, and we'll try to read some emails to finish the show. Like, dude, come on. If the Yankees don't win tonight. Give me a break.

Six in a row? Six in a row. Parker Bridwell going up against Michael Paneda, who's been great at home. Angels on the road in the East Coast. If they don't win tonight, I won't be on the show tomorrow. I'm done. If they don't win tonight, you're going to start panicking. I mean, I already accepted the fact they're not going to win the division.

That's fine. But six in a row to the Angels and the A's, they got to win tonight. And we're not starting Bridwell. We are starting Panetta. Yeah. Mike Leak and Hellixon in Philadelphia. I'm okay with starting Mike Leak. will not start Jeremy Helix.

Are you starting either Josh Tomlin or Chris Tillman? No way. Amir Garrett or Alex Cobb? I will start Alex Cobb at home against the Reds. Okay, the guy who I keep saying is a so high candidate and then keeps making me look like an idiot. Gio Gonzalez and Edinson Borkas. I think you can start Gio Gonzalez, but I think there's a real chance he blows up in this game. The Marlins are good against lefties.

Not only good against lefties. They're crushing it lately. They're just on fire. Matt Moore and Julio Turan in Atlanta. I will start Julio Turan and I will not start Matt Moore. Chad Kool and Zach Davies. I would prefer not to start either one of them. Yolice Chasin and Mike Montgomery.

I will start Mike Montgomery against the Pirate. Sneaky, sneaky start tonight. Francisco Liriano at Nick Martinez. Francisco Lirano is almost as much of a random number generator as R.A. Dickey, I'll start him against Texas. No, I can't. I'm going to disagree. I am starting him in multiple leagues.

Well, he's a two-star pitcher. But if you were in a daily league, I don't think I'd start him at the Rangers. Rangers are back, you know, their lineups full, they're hitting well. Yeah. We'll see. This is a test for him for sure. Derek Holland at Irvin Santana. I think this is a rare situation where I'm not totally opposed to starting Derek Holland,

and Irvin Santana is obviously a must start at this point. Sale at Matt Strom. Matt Strom. His first start wasn't bad. He's an interesting player, but I'm not ready to start him against Boston. All right. I think we'll start Chris. Yeah.

It doesn't it feel like the Red Sox haven't really had that good of a year? They're 39 and 31. They're insane. When they finally get going, like, they're insane. Yeah. They've gotten basically nothing from two of their three best starting pitchers. Yeah. And they're 39 and 31.

Zach Granky at Erman Marquez, Zach Granky in Colorado. I still think you have to start him. I don't think you have to start him. Do you have someone better? Possibly. I mean, I would start. Okay, all right, here we go. Gutsy call the day.

I'm starting Mike Montgomery against the Padres over Zach Grangerie in Colorado. Oh, I'll track it all right. You're not on the show tomorrow. Who the hell knows is even going to be in the office tomorrow? It's been an inconsistent couple of weeks for you. Adam. You're not here for you. Francis Martez and Sunny Gray.

I'll start both of them. Gazelman and McCarthy. I will not start Gaselman. I will start Brandon McCarthy. Google Chrome is not responding to my request to scroll down, so I can't see who the Tigers and Mariners are starting. Jordan Zimmerman versus Ariel Miranda. Ooh, come on, Zimmerman.

I am starting him because I do think it's a two-start week for him. So, come on, Zimmy. I don't feel nearly. as good about that as you do. I feel good about him accumulating enough fantasy points in a daily league. In a head to head points league, sure. I'm not starting him. No, either of them.

I'm not starting. Okay, let's see. Do we have... Dude, my computer is a just train wreck right now. So I am sorry. I am trying to go through... Do you have too many tabs open? Close some tabs.

I don't have that many tabs open. I have... Every time I see Heath's computer, I get like a panic attack because that dude keeps like 47 tabs open and it's just like it makes me clammy and nervous. I hate it. Well, I just lost my browser, so I don't think we're going to be able to read emails today. I'm sorry about that. Thank you all for listening to the Adam and Chris show.

Towers Hour. The Azer Hour. Featuring Chris Towers. Oh, stop. All right. We'll be back tomorrow to grade some trades, talk about Tuesday's action, and rock and roll. See ya. Thank you.