Fantasy Baseball Today - 06/20: Gallen, Urias, Snell and Some Rankings Updates (Fantasy Baseball Podcast)
Episode Date: June 20, 2019Starting the show with the young SPs who could be huge for your Fantasy teams (2:15). How do we rank Zac Gallen, Julio Urias and Adbert Alzolay? How long will they be in their team's rotation? Then le...t's talk about struggling stud SPs (10:00) particularly Blake Snell ... News and notes (21:50) including updates on Trevor Story and Willians Astudillo. And the Own-O-Meter is back (28:00) as we discuss Bryan Reynolds, Tyler Mahle and more, plus the Double Dongs from last night (34:10) ... Regulators (40:00)! Then Scott and Heath debate Eduardo Escobar (45:50) and tell you who is moving up (50:00) and who is moving down (55:50) in the rankings. Wait until year hear where Scott has Aaron Nola ranked ... Your emails at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's Adam, Scott Heath, and Chris.
All right, what's up?
Welcome to the Thursday show.
16 games on the schedule yesterday, so you know we got a lot to talk about.
How many players doubled off yesterday, guys?
Do you know?
Five?
Six.
Eight. Six.
Both were wrong.
Good start to the show.
And if Blake Snell had pitched a little longer, maybe seven or eight would have doubled on,
but he did not make it pass one out in the first inning.
We will, of course, talk about Blake Snell.
It's actually a very exciting show.
A lot of young pitchers being called up or maybe getting put back into duty as the case for Chris Paddock and maybe
Julio Arias, Pablo Lopez on the IL, so Zach Gowan is going to start today, and Adbert
Alzale could pitch today, so exciting times. Heath, I want to thank you for doing a great job
hosting yesterday. Well done, sir. You're welcome. What's wrong? Heath, I sense you're a little down
today. What's up? I'm not down at all. I'm very happy to be here. All right. I mean, it's NBA after
QS today.
Come on.
What does your shirt say?
I'm sorry?
What does your shirt say?
It says fly the quality start.
Okay.
I'm all about that.
Scott, you sound better,
although it seems like our listeners
enjoyed sexy Scott White's voice,
but you sound like you're getting help.
Yeah.
I guess I'm on the right track.
Yeah, I don't know, some of them like,
I thought I sounded a little like Selba Bouvie, A.
but I don't know.
If they're into that, I guess that's fine.
All right.
Well, let's get to the show.
So, Zach Allen's 50% owned.
Julio Arias is 38% owned.
And I actually don't know Adbert Alzolet's ownership percentage,
but I guarantee it's lower than that.
I will tell you what it is in a moment.
Gallin's going to start today.
I am speculating on Arias,
who is supposed to start today regardless,
but just, you know, as sort of a bullpen day.
But then last night, Rich Hill, he's going on the IL with a forearm issue or an elbow issue.
We had elbow tightness.
So I'm speculating that he joins the rotation.
I don't know that.
I picked him up in five of six leagues yesterday, so I certainly hope that's the case.
That's Julio Reyes for the Dodgers.
Alzalee up while Hendricks is 10% own Alzalai.
Hendricks is on the IL.
And then Chris Paddock coming back to start on Saturday.
We're excited about him.
Scott, if you were going to pick up,
Allen, Aureas, or Aalai, rank them.
How would you pick them up?
That's probably how I'd rank them, how you listed them there.
You know, obviously, it's hard to say exactly how long this is going to be for, or it's
hard to say anything in terms of, well, really, for any of these guys.
I was going to talk about Aureas because we don't know the extent of Hills injury.
And, you know, last time they had an opening, they went with Ross Stripling instead.
it seems like Arias has been the one pitching longer bullpen outing,
so it would make more sense for him to enter the rotation than stripling.
But of course, tripling has pretty good numbers too.
You know, Galin, yes, there's an opening with Pablo Lopez going on the IL for what may be,
maybe a while.
But, you know, eventually very soon Caleb Smith's going to be coming back.
And if Zach Gallen isn't great today, considering both the,
Eliezer Hernandez and Jordan Yamamoto have been.
It could be a one and done for him.
And then Adbert Alzalé, or I think it might be Alzalai.
I heard it.
I heard it today is Alzalai.
I was listening to like a Cubs podcast just to get pronunciation,
and they said Alzalae, but that is unofficial.
Yeah, okay.
He is not, he's going to be following Tyler Chatwood today,
so he's not actually getting to start.
but it might be a situation where Tyler Chatt was kind of the opener for him and really Alisle pitches the starters worth vending.
So, you know, he's the one we've probably talked about the least all this time.
He has been pitching really well at AAA, four straight starts with eight strikeouts or more.
I think five run runs between them.
I think three walks between those five, four starts.
So, yeah, he's definitely interesting.
But he would be third on that list for me.
Zach Gowlin's the most exciting because if he's as good as he's,
he's been a AAA. I don't
think there's any taking
them out of that rotation.
Heath, you want to get excited about these guys?
How are you feeling about Gowan,
Arias, and Aouselay?
Yeah, I think it's really easy to get excited about Gowan.
I think it's really easy to get excited about
Eureas. I really
struggle with Gowen just because he
has been this season
one of the best pitchers in
any level of organized baseball
and really
didn't show us much before
this season that made us think that was possible.
So it's interesting. I mean, it's
91 inning so far this year.
That's plenty to make you think
this is somewhat legit.
But also his track record before this
doesn't really lend itself.
There was no doubt coming into
this year who we're going to get more excited about
Julio Ureus or Zach Gowan and Ureis hasn't
exactly been bad. So
if you told me Julio Ureis and Zach
Gallin were both going to pitch in the rotation
for the rest of the season, I would
wager on the side of Julio Ureis being
bit better starting pitcher, but they're both very worth getting excited.
I think there's a pretty big, like, I have a hard time deciding which of the two I would
rather add right now. I think there's a pretty good gap between those two and Aslai.
So the average ERA, I don't know if it's at AAA or in the Pacific Coast League, but the league,
you know, the level Zach Gallen has been pitching at is over five, and his ERA, his ERA is like
four runs lower than the league's average ERA. And, um, he, he, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,
He did make some changes to emerge in this way.
He solidified his arm angle.
It's, I think, lower than it was last year,
and it was kind of all over the place last year.
And that's really helped with the control.
His velocity is up.
He's put in a lot of work on his cutter,
which seems to be a very effective pitch for him.
Obviously, we don't know.
Like, we've seen pitchers have, you know,
Mike fires.
His minor league numbers were always fantastic,
and he hasn't been that big deal in the majors.
So, you know, we don't really.
really know until he gets there, obviously, but it does seem like there is, there are skill
changes that are backing up the sudden emergence for Zach Gallen this year. And, you know, I think
he could be something like, like Matthew Boyd and the majors. And that's obviously worth getting
excited about. Yeah, it's a really important day because Gallen's going to start today. And, you know,
he throws, by the way, did we mention his velocity? He throws like 97 miles per hour.
So that's obviously awesome.
He'll be at the Cardinals.
That's an improvement.
Yeah, right.
So he'll be at the Cardinals today.
And the Cardinals, I mean, honestly, like the Cardinals, their top three hitters, Carpenter
DeYoung and Goldschmidt.
I know Goldschmidt homered yesterday, but he didn't even start.
They haven't been hitting well at all.
So I think that might be some of the reason why all these Marlins' pitchers have done well
against the Cardinals lately.
And Gallen will try to do the same today.
And then Arias, he will start today.
but as Scott mentioned, Ross Tripling is there.
Dave Roberts seemed a little optimistic about Rich Hill.
He's definitely going to miss some time, but we don't know how much.
So all I saw, like it was 11-something at night.
I was getting ready to call it a night,
and then I see Rich Hill only looked at the box score, he pitched an inning.
And then I, you know, check and he left after an inning.
I'm like, okay, it's Rich Hill, left after an inning.
I got to take a chance because I believe,
I think we all believe, that Arias has huge upside.
and he's made four starts this year.
Two of them were great.
Two of them were terrible.
One of the terrible ones was at Colorado,
so I'll throw that out.
The other terrible one was home against the Brewers.
So, all right, we'll see what happens.
And these are guys that should be on your radar right now.
How about Hesluss Luzardo or Galin or Erez?
How would you rank Lazzardo with them?
And then we'll move on.
I think you probably have to drop Luzardo to third.
Though, you know, we should have a better idea.
the longevity of both Gallen and Eureas after today.
So, you know, if I already had secured,
if I already secured Luzardo, I'd be,
I don't know, I think I'd be hesitant to drop him for Ereus
just because of, you know, less so about ability
than what kind of opportunity is really there.
Because Luzardo's coming and he's probably staying when he gets here
and he's probably going to be great when he gets here.
So I would probably probably,
rank them in terms of how much I'd want to own them,
Gallon, Luzardo, and
then Ereus, but
Gowan has an awful start today that would change things.
I think I'd go Lazzardo, Gala, Eureas.
I don't think I could drop Lizarro.
All right. So today's a big
sports day. We do have the NBA draft
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Pretty sure they're playing. Yeah, they're playing today.
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We got a ranking show today.
Scott and Heath have made adjustments to their rankings.
I'm going to try to bully Heath into making
another adjustment to his rankings.
Do you want me to do that now or are you want me to save him?
No, I know what you're going to say, and I'm not going to do it today.
It's time. It's time.
It's Heath.
What am I going to say?
You want me to put Mike Trout ahead of Mookie Betts?
I don't know.
I think maybe you should.
Trout's been like 70 fantasy points better than bets.
You know, Trout's one of the greatest players in baseball history.
Just think maybe it's time.
Maybe it's time.
Okay.
No?
Not going to happen?
No.
I came in this week's trade chart, I came dangerously close to moving Christian Yelich
ahead of Mike Trout.
But certainly I have both ahead of bets.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, you got those steals, right?
All right, let's get the studs being duds here.
were three studs who were duds last night. They were Blake Snell. Oh my gosh. He had the,
arguably the worst start ever for a reigning Cy Young winner. No Scy Young winner had ever
reigning out the year after he won the award had ever given up six runs while recording one
or fewer outs. So Snell was terrible. You see the home run from Gary Sanchez. It wasn't exactly
a moonshot, a bit of a Yankee Stadium homer. But the walks were an issue for Snell. He walked four
while recording just one out.
Lucas Gialito and Zach Granky will get to in a second.
Gialito, I think it's pretty interesting what he's done
against the tougher competition.
Hasn't been very good, and next week he has two tough matchups.
But let's talk about Snell, guys.
Thurriometer Thursday, Heath, your favorite segment,
how thuried are you about Blake Snell?
Zero to Ted.
Yeah, I think after the Wuriometer yesterday,
someone tweeted at Chris and I,
asking us to add Blake Snell.
I didn't respond, but Chris responded with a zero.
I would say for the rest of the season, I'm pretty close to that same number as he row.
But over the next couple of starts, I'm probably closer to a five or six.
There's clearly something where he just does not have the same command.
He's a guy who struggled with command and control before last year.
And I expect he's going to get it figured out.
The talent's too great for it not to happen.
But I don't know that he's going to get it figured out before his next start.
Okay, yeah.
But it wouldn't be surprised, you know, if his next start was 6-1.
hitnings with 11 strikeouts.
Like I was kind of expressing my exasperation to Chris about our need to go over this every time.
Like I feel like, I feel like so much of our job is just reassuring people that is just putting things into perspective and reassuring people that the latest thing you saw isn't what's going to always happen.
And it's over and over again every time a good pitcher has about three starts ago, nobody can.
cared about this. Three starts ago, Snow was coming off a five-start stretch with like a 160 ERA.
Four starts ago. It's been four starts now where he's had one good start in his last four.
Yes. Three of his last four have been terrible. The entire month of June is basically been a disaster.
Is anybody concerned about Garrett Cole today? Because four starts ago, Garrett Cole had an ERA over four.
And I don't remember, like, everybody thinks he's the bees and he's all of a sudden. And he is, by the way.
But Snell has far and away the best swinging strike rate in baseball.
Distant, distant first in that category.
Even after yesterday's start, which was abysmal, it was a minus 16 point start.
His FIP is only up to 337.
His ex-fip is 313.
I mean, like, he's a dominant, dominant pitcher who just happened to be coming off, like, you know, a bad start.
And a bad couple starts, whatever.
He's going to be fine.
A bad month.
Yeah, look, I, uh,
I don't think we're concerned, but if our listeners are concerned, we have to talk about it.
And you're right, a lot of it is.
It did.
Yeah, a lot of it is.
Yeah, but you talked about it like, like, why do I have to talk about this?
No, it's exasperate.
Like, it is.
But Scott, where were we with Aranola a month and a half ago?
Probably like.
Yeah, okay, but this is different.
We're wrong sometimes.
Like, Aaronola, none of Aranola's peripherals have looked very good all season long.
Like even Chris Sale at the start of the season, I got that.
His velocity was way down.
Okay.
Like, we kept the faith, even in that situation, but there was legitimate reason for concern, I feel like.
In this case, there's not legitimate reason for concern.
Well, that, okay, that's fine, but that is, that is equally as important to state as when there is.
I know.
I'm stating it.
I just, I just wish, I just sometimes wish, like, baseball fans as a whole would get to a place where they realize, okay, this is a basketball, this isn't football.
There's going to be a high degree of variance every single day.
and some things just aren't worth reacting to.
I understand we have to because other people are.
But what is these?
Like I'm usually the underreactor,
so I usually agree with you here,
but I don't know what is the baseline.
Like if Blake Snell had one more bad start
and four of his last five starts had been terrible,
or do we have to get to six out of seven?
I think three out of four being just really, really bad
is a decent baseline for saying,
okay, we've got to talk about this now.
I agree, especially.
especially when he's walked seven in his last two starts,
and that's over three and two thirds.
He has almost as many walks as swinging strikes in his last two-start.
Yeah, I just think if we went through the history of game logs for good pitchers and good seasons,
I think we'd find a lot of two-star stretches like this.
But it's four starts.
Yes, three out of four.
Look, we're done.
We're done.
We're five.
We started out of us.
Trust me, two starts ago, nobody was worried about it.
You're right.
He was coming off six innings, one or run, seven strike.
We're done. We're done. We're moving on to Lucas Gialito.
Just to sum up Blake Snell, Kevin Cash said he can't land a breaking ball the way we've seen him in the past.
The change-ups not there for him. He throws that really well, generally behind the count.
It's not there for him. A lot of it is the command. The stuff has not changed whatsoever.
So to sum it up, we don't have a lot of concerns long-term about Blake Snell. Go ahead and buy it low.
Lucas Gialito. So he's 10 and 2 with a 274 ERA. He gave up six runs and three homers at the Cubs,
an ugly, cold, rainy, windy day yesterday.
An emotional game, if you're watching the highlights,
if you're watching on our YouTube channel,
I think that was the Contreras home run,
and he was pretty pumped up.
And it seemed like Gialito did well against pretty much everyone but Contreras.
But five starts against great offenses.
I won't go through all the numbers.
They're in the notes if you guys want to bring it up.
But suffice to say,
Yankees, Red Sox, Astros, Cubs,
and I actually think the Yankees twice.
Oh, no, maybe the Yankees twice.
He has to face the Yankees twice.
One of them was really good, though.
One of them was really good.
He did walk four in that start, but it was good.
The only great start was the Astro start.
It was a complete game shutout.
That was no Al Tuve, no Springer.
Look, I love Gialito, but when I see that he has struggled against the Cubs,
against the Red Sox, once against the Yankees.
I guess next week's a big one,
because he's got at Boston and home against Minnesota,
maybe I'll start re-evaluating how convinced I am that Gioito is a true ace
because I'm pretty much there.
But maybe I need to take a step back and see what he does next week at Boston and home against Minnesota.
What do you think?
Yeah, I mean, there was some regression coming.
And there may still be some more regression coming.
But, you know, he had 21 swinging strikes yesterday.
Like stuff-wise, he's there.
There may be some command issues that pop up every year.
now and then that lead to outings like yesterday's.
But I have no doubt he has the stuff of an ace,
and usually that's going to lead to very good results.
I don't really care how the Red Sox or the Twins hit him next week.
I'll be watching the walk total.
He's got seven walks in his last two starts.
If the control starts to go, then I'll be a little more concerned.
Patrick Corbyn pitched yesterday.
He pitched well.
Would you rather have Corbyn or Gialito?
Corbyn.
Hmm, that's a tough one.
Corbin was really someone I was kind of starting to get concerned about
before this most recent start.
And I know I have them both ranked similarly.
I think that I prefer Gialito right now.
Okay.
And Zach Ranky struggled yesterday,
five runs in seven innings on 11 hits,
only two strikeouts.
So that's now seven swinging strikes combined in his last two starts
for Granky.
Any concerns?
No.
He has
his swing
his K per 9 is below 8 now
for the season
so that actually
is something that's a little concerning to me
not because I feel like
like the sky is falling
for Zach Brinky I just wonder if
you know he's old
and eventually he's going to
start losing it a bit so
you know is he closer to the bumgarner range of
starting pitchers than
the Blake Snell range.
I don't know. I'm not there yet, but he could
be trending that way. Wow. I just
with Rinky he doesn't
really or hasn't
for most of the last
half decade needed swinging strikes
very much. Right.
And I think
like he was at 8.1K per 9 the year he had a
1.66 ERA.
So he struck out more than a batterer per inning once in the last five years.
I'm just not really worried about him at all.
Okay, and I mean, it's the last two starts.
It's five strikeouts in 14 and a third that have really killed his K rate and his swinging strike rate.
Okay, so those are some studs being duds, Snell, Gialito, and Granky.
Studs being studs, we could do this quickly here.
Shursar, broken nose and everything, seven scoreless, 10 strikeouts against Philadelphia.
And then earlier in the day, they played a double header yesterday.
Patrick Corbyn, seven innings one run,
eight strikeouts,
18 swinging strikes,
and he got back on track.
His previous three starts
have been just awful.
So Scherzer, Corbyn,
I think, I mean,
I'm going to skip it, guys,
because I think we already,
Scherzer's number one,
and Corbin,
ahead of Gialito,
or right there with Gialito,
top 15 starting pitchers,
basically.
Yeah.
All right, cool.
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When we come back,
we'll talk to you about Trevor Story.
Big injury news on Trevor Story.
Aaron Judge nearing his return.
Going to get the on-o-meter out.
Should Brian Reynolds be owned in more than 50% of leagues?
And who's moving up and who's moving down in the rankings for Scott and Heath?
We're coming right back on fantasy baseball today.
So Trevor's story heard his thumb yesterday.
He's going to have an MRI today.
And this is not the first time he left with a thumb injury and had x-rays that were negative,
which is the case here.
Happened in 2006.
But an MRI showed torn ligaments and he missed the rest of the season.
So, okay, we're not going to freak out.
But do you think Brendan Rogers would get a second chance?
And would you be interested in Brendan Rogers if there's an I-Elston here for story?
Yes, to both.
If that's what happens, I don't know who else they'd go with.
I mean, Brendan Rogers certainly didn't embarrass himself the first trip up here
and having Coorsfield as his home environments, getting more regular bats.
I think we could see even better results if that did come to pass.
Obviously, that's not what we're hoping for.
But, yeah, I haven't taken Rogers off my radar just because he got sent back down.
All right.
He was pretty bad.
But a lot of guys struggle when they first come up.
And, yeah, I think there's reason to be interested.
34% owned Brendan Rogers.
I hope I didn't drop him in the league that I spent 35% of my fab on him.
I think I dropped him everywhere that I had him.
but if he gets another chance,
you go pick him back up.
Nobody was rushing to add him when you dropped him.
That's true. Do I have him? Do I have him? No, I dropped him.
Oh, gosh, I suck at life.
And I don't, I think you could go pick him up tonight.
I don't think there will be anyone else putting a bit on him
unless we get worded today that story's out for like a long time.
Okay, we'll see.
Adam Boutamontos, he sat with a groin issue.
Aaron Judge could be back tomorrow.
Raphael Devers left with hamstring tightness.
Don't know the severity.
He's going to miss Friday's game.
and they're calling him day to day
for now on Raphael Devers.
I drop my pen, but I'm on camera,
so I can't pick it up right now,
and that's upsetting me.
Marwa Gonzalez is on the aisle
with a hamstring injury.
The twins called up Williams Ashtudio,
and he homered yesterday,
he played second base.
What's your level of interest in Williams Ashtudio?
100 in a two-catcher league,
and not very much in a one-catcher league,
but he was just absolutely tearing up
AAA since he'd been sent down.
back gets three hits and a home run.
He's, I mean, for as long
as he's up, he's definitely a top
20 catcher. He's probably a top
15 catcher. It was interesting
seeing him start at second base because
like I don't think
I don't think Jonathan's scope is
anyone their lineup would miss too terribly
and he turned two double
plays. He was involved in two double plays.
I wish I could have seen that because that would have been fun to see.
But yeah, when he said he was tearing
it up at AAA and nine games he hit
526 with three home runs.
Wow. Yeah, so there's another catcher that's pretty interesting.
It's Tom Murphy, because now for the second straight day, Murphy and Narvaez were in the
lineup at the same time. They've switched off between catching and DH. So would you rather
have Astidio or Tom Murphy?
Astadio.
Yeah, I think there's more hope that Estadio finds somewhere on the diamond or several
somewhere's to play every day when I don't think Murphy's ever going to reach that point.
Asadio.
Asadio or Roberto Perez.
That's like 13 home runs.
Yeah, I definitely ask you.
Perez is fine if you've exhausted the upside options out there.
But I definitely pursue upside over him.
Okay.
More news.
So, Jordan Alvarez or, yeah, I'm going to with the Y.
Everybody's saying it with a Y.
So I'm going to say Jordan Alvarez until further notice.
He sat.
They're at Cincinnati.
He DHS to just let you know.
Blake Parker, that series is over.
Blake Parker's on the family medical emergency list.
Garry Cooper sat with a sore triceps.
Miami acquired outfielder Cesar Poeo from the Angels for cash.
So we'll see if he gets some regular playing time, maybe for NL only owners.
Trey Mancini left with an elbow contusion just when Scott moved him up the rankings.
He got hit by a pitch.
And Tray Mancini day to day.
should be fine. Mani Machado.
X-Rae's negative, yeah. Mani Machado hit a
403-foot single. That was
interesting. It was off the very
top of the wall. It looked like a home run.
Go look up the replay. It was kind
of crazy. Texas third baseman
is Drewbaugh-Cabrera has 11 home runs
this year. All of them have come
at home. Cabrera has a
230 slugging percentage on
the road. Shohei Otani stole
his third base in seven games. That is big. Otani's
doing everything right now. So that's good
to see. Sean Newcomb's on the
seven-day concussion IL. Mike Mustaka
sat with a bruised hand. Yandi
Diaz on the IL with a hamstring strain.
Ken Giles is nearing a return.
And the National League, here's
an interleague stat for you. The
National League is a 559 winning percentage
right now against the AL. That would be its
best ever in interleague play, which started
in 1997. Last
year, the NL also had a better record than the
AL. They won the Interleague
battle. That was after 14
straight years with the American League having
a better record. And in terms of
fantasy relevance, does this matter?
Well, I don't know.
I don't know that, like, I used to sort of kind of favor NL pitchers.
You know, the DH and the A.O. was just better.
But, man, there are terrible teams in the American League.
And I'm not so sure that I feel that way anymore.
It's a big deal to not face the pitcher, you know, when you're comparing A.L.
pitchers or it's NL pitchers.
But obviously, the National League is the better league right now.
I don't know if that matters for fantasy relevance.
It's the deeper league.
There are fewer purely tanking teams, if that's the accepted term, in the NL.
So, yeah, that's a good point.
I mean, especially AL Central.
My goodness.
Yeah.
And Chris Towers yesterday on the show confused Major League 1 with Major League 2,
and that is pathetic.
Like, that is pathetic.
I wish Chris were here.
I'm going to tell him tomorrow.
It's just embarrassing.
All right.
It's time for the.
Onometer.
So here's how the onometer works.
I give you a player and you tell me how owned he should be.
Zero to 10.
10 is he should be 100% own.
Zero, zero percent own.
A five, he should be about 50% own.
So let's start with Brian Reynolds.
Brian Reynolds, in his previous 31 games before going three for four with a home run yesterday,
31 games before that, he was the number 10 outfielder in points, number 15 in Roto.
Reynolds has just, he's got a great batting average.
He's batting.
home runs, and he's a high Babbib guy.
But yeah, zero to 10.
Let's start with Heath for Brian Reynolds on the O-O meter.
Yeah, I think the interesting thing is I don't know if we know enough yet to know how high
Brian Reynolds' Babbip should be, but I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be 440.
So he might be a 300 hitter.
I think he's probably more like a 280, 290 hitter.
when I put together the rookie rankings a couple of days ago that by far the most common response I got was why do you have Brian Reynolds so low?
And it's I think I've discovered it's because he's Nick Markechis in a best case scenario and I've always been too low on Nick Markechis.
I don't think 50, like maybe he should be 60% owned, but I don't really think he's going to be someone that has to be owned in a three outfielder standard 12 team points league.
So I want to I want to mention a.
that I've kind of been immersing myself in recently.
And I've mentioned it a couple times on the podcast today.
And it's XBA, X standing for expected like in every other X stat and BIA standing for batting average.
And I know there's some debate out there as to how useful of a stat this is.
But, you know, the way BABIP has revealed its flaws in more recent years where, you know, the assumption of BABIP was always,
oh, average hitter should have about a 300 BABIP.
and, you know, it's proven over time
that some hitters are high-babbiff guys,
some are low-bab-bib guys.
So, you know, ex-bbit might,
X-B-A, I mean, might be a more direct route
to the answer we're wanting to find.
And XBA for Brian Reynolds
says she should be a 302 hitter.
So, you know, in more familiar terms,
that means he does profile as a high-bab-bib guy,
but obviously his babbip right now is way high.
Yeah, and he's back-602.
Probably a six for me too.
All right, a six for Brian Reynolds.
Ryan McMahon is 39% own.
He is an everyday player lately.
He's playing against lefties.
He's actually been a lot better
against lefties this year.
So, look, I was getting kind of excited
about Ryan McMahon.
I dropped Yulee Guriel for him,
which I'm fine with.
Guriel really has no upside.
But, you know, I looked at his recent hot streak,
McMahon.
It is pretty much all singles.
Yesterday he did double.
But, you know, look, it's Coorsfield.
It's McMahon.
We liked him early in the season.
percent own zero to ten on the own o meter for
Ryan McMahon Scott you go first
yeah definitely going up I think he's
back up to like
seven or eight for me
it might be hard to roster him in the
21 man roster
head to head leagues but anything
deeper I'm probably pursuing
that upside again because he seems to be on the
right track and has much clearer
path to Blang time now with Rogers out of the picture
yeah I'd story I like Ryan McMahon
and I was the one of the McMahon
like he was my guy before the season
but it's just not resulted
in actual good fantasy results so far
like I cannot find a time period
maybe if I go last seven days
where he's even in the top 15 second baseman
yeah last seven days I'm sure he is
but not last 14 not last 21
not last 28 but but I mean
the difference is he's not a platoon player right now
you know so well I think part of the difference is
like five of his last seven games have been at course.
Sure, sure.
I wouldn't pick him up if he weren't on the Rockies.
But would you rather have...
I'll say a five, five or six.
Would you rather have Cabin Bigeo or Ryan McMahon?
Bidio.
Bidio.
Yeah.
All right, O no meter for Tyler Malley.
I mean, I just suck at life.
I dropped Tyler Malley two days ago.
And yesterday he has seven innings, seven strikeouts,
two runs against Houston. Just great
stuff there. Previous
four starts, 652 ERA.
He'll be at the Angels next week.
He's 28% owned 0 to 10 on the Onometer
for Malley. So he's not
a two-start pitcher next week. He doesn't necessarily
have a good match-up next week, and he's
certainly not a must-own pitcher. I think
where he's at at
28%, like I think
that's 2.8 on the Onometer. That's fine.
All right. I'll bump
it up to four, but yeah, I'm not
that moved by yesterday's start. It was
aberration in terms of results, and I don't see much in the underlying numbers to get excited
about.
Brandon Dixon is 6% owned.
Zero to 10 for Brandon Dixon.
Two.
Yeah, 1.5.
Daniel Ponce Delion, Dixon, by the way, for the Tigers.
And Daniel Ponsdellione's starting pitcher for the Cardinals, six scoreless with six
strikeouts against Miami yesterday.
And you just look at what he's done in the majors.
He's been pretty good.
So Daniel Ponce de Leon is 8% owned
One start against Oakland next week
Zero to 10 for him
Are we sure he's going to make that start
Because it looks like they have five guys without him
No, I actually was hoping you could clarify there
Daniel Ponsdaleone's
Yeah
I was not confident he was going to do that
I don't do we know exactly where Waka stands
Yeah like kind of the first base side of the mound
Yeah I
I honestly don't know what got him to start in the first place.
If they had a double header or just a situation where they wanted to move everybody back a day,
I don't know what it was.
But, yeah, I'm only putting it like a three because I'm not confident he's longed for this role.
If I was, it might be like a six, because he has done some interesting things,
both in the majors and the minors.
But I'm putting it like three now.
Okay.
I mean, I think Ponce de Leon, he's pitched well enough to justify putting him in the rotation over Michael Walker.
So it may be at the very least it's a name to know.
Mentioned there were a lot of double dongs yesterday, so let's get to it.
Let's start with Mike Trout.
They honestly have nothing to say about Mike Trout.
We talked about him at length two days ago, so he's amazing.
And he's obviously the number one outfielder.
Well, actually, that's not true because Yellich and Bellinger.
What's wrong with me right now?
Talk about Wilson Petreras.
Try to be cute.
Look where it got you.
It's just like
Why?
Why?
Just give me one sentence.
Why bets over Trout?
Nothing that's happened so far has changed my mind.
He's played 70 games.
He's been so much better than Mookie Betts.
And by the way, he's usually better than Mookiee Betts.
He's Mike Trout.
Well, two of the last three years, Betts has been better.
And now two of the last four Trout has been better.
And Betts has only been better.
So it seems like your coin flip.
Betts has only been better because of played a play to
Like Trout is better.
All right.
Wilson Contreras is the number three catcher in fantasy.
He doubled on yesterday.
Scott, is that where you have Wilson Contreras?
Is he the number three catcher in fantasy?
I have him fourth.
Rial Muto would be...
If you had him third, I'm not really going to argue with you.
But I like Sanchez, Grundal, and Rial Muto all better.
Yep.
Do you guys have Gondal over Rayamuto?
I do not.
I do actually
because I don't think the playing time disparity
exists anymore
and that was
that was fueling a lot
of Real Mutto love at the start
of the year
so I actually moved Grunda'll ahead
Domingo Santana
Homer twice yesterday
I cannot believe
that Domingo Santana is the number
11 outfielder in Roto
that really surprises me
he's number 28 in points leagues
54 RBIs is really good
but look I mean
He's got five steals, 279 batting average, 15 homers.
I'm surprised.
There's no standout number there that would lead me to think that Domingo Santana in a 5-by-5 league is the number 11 outfielder.
But so he is.
I will say that his first 12 games, he had a 1071 OPS.
Last 61 games, 734 OPS until yesterday.
Now it's probably, I don't know, 770s or so.
All right.
How do we feel about Domingo Santana, guys?
Own him, start him.
There's not much.
I don't think he's going to be a top 15 outfielder,
but he could be anywhere between 15 and 35.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, I pretty much agree with that.
There are a lot of similarities between him and Tommy Fam, I think.
Tommy Fam is the more disciplined hitter of the two.
But I think they're closer in value.
than they get credit for sometime.
Brian Dozier, 55% owned,
and Homer twice yesterday, but in two games.
But he's, you know, like his previous 26 games,
he had a 9-16 OPS.
If you look at the splits, Dozier's been great against lefties,
1185 OPS, and terrible against Reidy's,
which is not what we saw last year,
so I don't know how legit it is.
But Dozier, 55% owned,
how would you rank Dozier-Bigio-McMan?
I would rank them Bizio McMahon Dozier, though, you know, people who are writing off Dozier, which probably included me, are at least rethinking that now.
Fair?
Yeah, yeah.
I think, like, we had a discussion, I think, a week ago, Bizio or Howie Kendrick, and I had Dozier one spot ahead of Kendrick.
I'd still rather have Dozier than Kendrick.
He's a top 24 second baseman, but he's not top 20 for me.
Chris Taylor is going to be playing a lot now.
with Corey Seeger on the IL, and he doubledonged yesterday.
You know, his batting average has been bad, but his ISO in May,
Chris Taylor had a 257 ISO in May, and now a 250 ISO in June.
So that's really good.
Do you think Taylor is under-owned at 26 percent?
A little, but not much.
Okay.
Yeah, shortstop being as deep as it is.
Yeah, I would say just a little.
I agree.
Two more.
Jason Kipness, double-dong.
and Kipness is 8% own, and he says that he found something in his swing last week.
And his last four games, Kipness is 7 for 15 with three home runs and a double.
Does anybody buying it with Kipness?
Can he share that thing that he found with Jose Ramirez?
Yeah.
Or could he have found it three years ago?
Because this might have been a very different discussion then.
It's been a long time since we've seen a good Jason Kipness.
and I need to see a lot more of it before I get interested.
By the way, Chris Taylor is actually second base eligible,
so would you guys rather have Taylor or Kipnis?
Taylor.
Yeah.
Okay, and finally, Rowdy Telez double-donged.
Telez is 14% owned.
He's been a lot better against lefties this year, which is surprising.
He's been terrible against Reities.
He crushed an Andrew Heaney pitch yesterday, a bomb to center field.
Rowdy Tellez, and he has started five straight games since Justin Smoke's injury,
including three against lefties, is Telez underowned at 14%.
He's underowned for as long as Justin Smoke has hurt.
Yeah, okay, that makes sense.
Okay, then.
I'm going to skip around on the notes a little bit because I want to have a little fun.
Bring on Nate Dog and Warren G. We're going to regulate something.
Here we go. Fantasy baseball at CBSI.com.
Patrick from Chicago, subject line, fantasy regulators.
Scherzer breaks his nose.
Yahoo says he's starting Thursday.
A reliever gets put into my active slot.
The first game of a double header starts.
Lineups lock.
Then they announced that Max will start the second game on Wednesday, not on Thursday.
I immediately asked the commissioners to make the change.
Neither will and say this isn't football.
Yahoo has a rule that where everybody locks in the second game after the first one starts in a double header.
And that was the only reason Max was taken out of my lineup in the first place.
Everybody knows this shouldn't have happened.
Regulate Yahoo, guys. Help me out.
You know, there are other places you could, I think you would have had the same problem on CBS, so I'm not going to go there.
But I think your commissioners are right.
You know, I, yeah.
This is one of those situations where it's how hands-on does your commissioner,
want to be. And I could see a situation where Adam Azer fixed this as a commissioner,
but that sets you up for setting a precedent that you're probably not going to fulfill later in
the year. And I think it's better to just follow the rules. Yeah, you know, it's a tough cause.
In case anybody's lost, this guy had Scherzer. They played a doubleheader yesterday. Yahoo
announced that Scher was going to start on Thursday. The first game of the doubleheader starts
and Scher's not in Patrick's lineup. And then it's announced that he's going to start the second
game of the double header and now he doesn't have a chance to get Scherzer into his lineup.
So I don't know what I would have done as the commissioner.
I do think it's a tough call here.
I'm going to say that it's the commissioner's ruling and we're okay with it.
So in my opinion, guys, this has been regulated.
And those are your fantasy regulators here on Wednesday, Thursday, June 20th.
That's it.
Just one.
I feel like it's been a long time since I've been part of a regulator's segment.
And all I said was your commissioner is right.
I had one at them.
Oh, please, go on.
This was addressed to Scott.
Scott, I am in a 14-team league where every Monday the commissioner goes and turns waivers off
so that people can add and drop players freely until the lineups lock on Monday.
And historically what he does on a weekly basis is he sends an email to the league saying waivers are off.
Unfortunately, this is not always at the same time of day, but it's within an hour range, so everyone deals with it.
And then people start adding people, dropping people, whatever.
It happens until lineup's luck.
Well, one day in our league, there was no email from the commissioner.
The notification that waivers were off was the fact that the commissioner had picked someone up.
False! That is such crap.
No, that is false.
And...
Liar.
The commissioner refused to put the player back on the waiver wire.
Can you please regulate?
Which player?
Who are you talking about?
Who are you talking about?
I'm waiting for Scott's regulation.
Well, okay, I don't.
It sounded like Adam had an explanation,
but now he sounds like he doesn't know what you're talking about.
So I'm going to say,
I'm going to say that's a bad move by the commissioner.
Because, like, it's really hard.
You have so much power as the commissioner,
and there are subtle ways you could give yourself
slight advantages here and there,
and you just, you have to,
you have to be resolute about not doing that.
And this sounds like one of those situations,
especially since the precedent was established.
And like nobody had any reason to be,
like they're not going to be hyperactively checking
to try and beat you to this guy
until you send out the email.
Like I almost feel like if you're a commissioner
in this scenario,
you have to give like everyone else a half hour buffer
because you always are the first to know.
I give a five minute.
I give a five minute buffer.
I give a five minute buffer.
Always.
And there was an email from the commissioner at 1041 a.m. that day, two hours after he had picked someone up.
I thought I sent this earlier, but I may not have.
I'm sorry.
I usually turn them off around 8 a.m. on Monday's, FYI.
But I wasn't the first person.
So he admitted that he had picked someone up.
I asked, are you going to drop the person you picked up before you told us?
Right, exactly.
That's the thing.
You asked.
Nobody else cared.
You just did that because you and not me.
So this was not even an issue until you stayed.
I'm pretty sure it was Brennan McKay.
It was Brendan McKay.
I'm pretty sure you waited to, I mean, I'm confused.
It's been regulated.
No, it's fine.
Nobody cares for you.
I don't have, I am not dropping Brennan McKay.
You only get the hitter version of Brennan McKay.
Were you actually wanting to pick up Brendan McKay, Heath?
Are you just?
No, no.
False lies.
If Adam, if Adam had done what he should.
have and dropped him, I would have picked him up immediately.
You don't believe that?
No, I don't.
Yes, I do.
But for one reason, just to piss me off.
That is it.
That is it.
All right, let's make sure we get to rankings here.
Okay, there's a lot I wanted to get to.
It was such a busy day.
So let's make sure we get to rankings.
First of all, a question from Jonathan in New Jersey.
Dear Yunel, Alcides, and Kelvin, those are Escobars.
Eduardo Escobar is someone who I don't often hear about on the podcast,
but this year he's been nothing short of spectacular.
Not to mention it looks pretty legit.
Heath has him number five in points and number eight in Roto.
Scott has Escobar number 18 in both formats.
What gives on Eduardo Escobar?
So there are, is this a shortstop or third base?
Shortstop?
I think third base.
Third base?
Well, either way, there are a lot of players who I think are pretty close to unbenchable
at those positions.
And I'm not, I'm not even sure how the math works.
Like I know in all the leagues where I own Escobar, I'm starting him.
In all the leagues where I own everybody I have ahead of Escobar, I'm starting them too.
I'm not exactly sure how that math works out because somebody, you know, a 12th team league, how are all those guys being started?
I don't know. Maybe there's enough multi-eligible guys.
I don't know. It's just a surplus of depth issue.
Like I noticed Heath, I was looking at this yesterday too, not knowing this email was going to come up.
And I noticed Heath had Escobar ahead of even Cotel Marte, which, you know, I don't really see the justification for that, especially since Marte's has eligibility at two positions that I would consider weaker than either of the ones Escobar has.
But that's, you know, that's just one example of a guy who, I don't know, I'd have to pull over my rankings to see who else I have ahead of Escobar.
But, like, they're good players.
Yeah.
So it's guys like Vlad, Hunter Dozier, Austin Riley, DJ LeMayhew, Yohan Moncada.
And yes, you can see right away there are players who are second base eligible.
There are outfield eligible.
So all of these guys are started pretty much across the board, except for Hunter Dozier, obviously.
Yeah, but he's about.
Yeah, so.
Coming back.
Yeah, I mean, I can see that argument when I just look at third base, that there's not all that much separating
five from 18.
I mean,
Josh Donaldson is 21 for Scott,
19th for Heath,
and like Javier Baez is fifth and sixth,
it's not that big of a gap.
For 15, 16 spots in the rankings,
you know, it's not that big of a gap.
I think the ones that I have problems with,
because I,
like,
the guys that have been really great in the past,
but not as good as Escobar this year,
I completely understand.
or the positional thing, I can understand.
But even like DJ LaMayu or Yohan Mancada,
I mean, Mankata's been 60 fantasy points
worse than Eduardo Escobar this year
and is currently dealing with a back issue.
LeMayhew has been 32 fantasy points worse than Escobar this year.
And we didn't think LeMayhew was going to be very good
at the beginning of the season.
Well, part of it too is, and like he said it looks pretty legit.
Like Eskabar is definitely a hitter with some power.
Does he have this much?
You know, looking at the X stats, the expected stats.
His ex-B-A is 237.
His ex-WOBA is 317, while its actual Wobah is 377.
So I do have some doubts.
I do question the part of the email where he says it looked pretty legit.
Okay.
I think the regressed version,
Of Eskabar is still a pretty good player that everybody wants to own,
but I don't think he is quite this good.
By the way, as far as I just want to give a stat on LeMayhew real quick,
he's batting 462 with runners in scoring position.
So 46 RBI is going to change.
Yeah, 46 RBI is for basically a lead-off hitter.
He is going to lead off, at least for the foreseeable future,
for what I expect to be the best or one of the three best lineups in baseball,
and then he's going to be great in that regard.
But, yeah, I mean, that batting average runner's scoring position is great.
Okay, so here's the deal, guys.
We don't have that much time left on the show,
and we do have a lot to get to.
So we're going to do rankings.
What I want you to do, Scott's going to give you three players moving up,
then Heath, then Heath will give you three players going down in the rankings,
then Scott will do the same.
We're not going to debate.
We're not going to, like, break it down all that much,
because, you know, I want to mention.
So just tell me who's moving up, how high, and why,
and we'll get kind of quick-hit advice to our listeners.
Scott, who are, who, which players are moving up into rankings?
So moving up is Max Muncie, who, you know, big part of it is, it's clear he's an everyday player now.
And again, his stats against left-handers are better than right-handers.
There's no reason why he shouldn't be an everyday player.
He's also picked up the pace.
His numbers suddenly look a lot more like they did last year when, you know, last year,
At the start of the season, he was kind of, it kind of looked like maybe he wasn't quite all he looked like then.
So he is now in my top six, I believe, at second base, when before he was outside of the top 12, I think he's a must start across the board.
And, you know, he's triple eligible.
I think he's probably a must start at all three of his positions.
All right.
I'm fifth at second base, actually.
Yep, and Heath has him six.
So Max Muncie, Ariser.
Who else?
Tray Mancini, who, yeah, I mean, we got to see.
It's still possible he has a bruise that could put him on the aisle,
but it wouldn't be for very long.
And, you know, it just came to a point where looking the outfields,
the production hadn't slowed down at all.
And because of that, where he was showing up in terms of outfield scoring and first base scoring,
was basically with all the elite players.
And the batted ball data looks better than in years past.
he is elevating the ball more, which explains the power increase.
I think he's pretty legit, and I think the rankings needed to reflect that.
All right, yeah, he is a top 10 first baseman, Trey Mancini.
He's top 10 outfield, too, I think.
He's only 15th in your rankings, but again, very good players ahead of him.
At first base, that is.
So your last guy, coming off a bad start, Kyle Gibson.
Another guy who really hasn't been...
Oh, yeah, go ahead.
I sent you this list before seeing what he did yesterday.
It was obviously an awful start.
But the five walks especially were just weird because he had a total of four walks in his previous five starts.
And in his previous 10 starts, he had put together a 282 ERA with a 15% swinging strike rate that would have ranked fifth in all of baseball if that was his swinging strike rate for the season.
He was a guy last year who had, um, whose swinging strike rate suggested.
his numbers should have been better than they were.
His slider is really good at getting swings and misses.
So it looked like he might be taking a big step forward.
And I'm not willing to say he isn't because he had one bad start.
I think that would be an overreaction to one start.
But my enthusiasm is dampened a little by what he did yesterday.
Still, he's in my top 50 starting pitchers when before he was probably outside of the top 75.
Well, Kyle Gibson has five quality starts this season.
and all of the teams that he's faced,
that he's had a quality start against,
are in the bottom eight in runs per game.
So that makes me a little hesitant,
but he has been 44th and points,
40th and Roto at starting pitcher,
and he will face a lot of bad teams,
and he will win games.
He's seven and four.
All right, so Max Muncie, Tray Mancini,
and Kyle Gibson up for Scott.
Heath, who's moving up in the rankings for you?
A couple guys we've talked quite a bit about
outfielders, Ramone Luriano,
Oscar Mercado, both inside my top 50
outfielder's rest of season.
now, Luriano looks like a 20-20 guy.
I mean, he's been 16,
and Homer's 15 stolen bases,
273 average in his first 123 major league games.
Obviously, a very good defensive player.
You don't have to worry about playing time.
What's been good lately,
and I don't know how long it's going to last
because it hasn't happened enough
is he's actually moved up in his last,
I believe, three games now.
He has hit fifth in the order.
He'd been at the close to the bottom of the order
for most of the season.
So that could help him become more relevant in points leagues.
Mercado is,
Apparently the Indian's number two hitter.
He's been there for about three and a half weeks now.
And Mercado starting to run just a little bit more.
He doesn't strike out quite as much as Luriano.
I don't think he'll have as much power at any point in his career.
But the guy that I compare these two is someone we were much more excited about at the beginning of the year
and has just mostly been dreadful.
It's Victor Rogelis.
And I think I'd probably rather have both than Robles at this point.
Okay, so that's Luriano and Mercado.
And the pitcher you have moving up in your rankings is Cole Hamels, and he's been great lately.
By the way, it's funny, I just have to mention that Heath has Kyle Gibson 105th in his rankings.
You're not really feeling Kyle Gibson?
I moved him up into the top 80 just because he's just somewhat I'd never moved because I didn't really necessarily buy his good six-start stretch.
And now I'm going to move him up after a bad outing.
But he deserves to be in the top 80.
I just discovered this week that I didn't have Hunter Pence in my outfield rankings at all.
So sometimes players look through.
Cole Hamels is number 29 for Heath, top 30 pitcher.
Yeah, and I think we talked about it last week, how I decided he deserves to be in the top 30.
He's probably not ever going to crack my top 20.
But, I mean, the way his last four starts have gone, he might if he does this again for another month.
All of them seven innings, only one or one.
earned, rent, allowed, lots of strikeouts, almost no walks.
He looked really, really shaky for a while there, but it looks like he's figured things out.
Let's go to who's moving down in the rankings, guys.
We have about five minutes left in the show, FYI.
But Heath, who are the three guys that are moving down in your rankings?
You know, I think we're getting close to the point where people have to stop making the,
we had Javier Baez as a bust jokes.
because Javier Baez, I was looking at the rankings last week,
he's like the number 12 third baseman in fantasy.
I'm not sure if he's in the top 10 shortstops.
I don't think he's in the top five second baseman.
The strikeouts have caught up to him.
The stolen bases aren't really there.
He's good, but he's not been anywhere close to the superstar.
He was at the beginning of the year,
and what he's doing now looks more like to me,
the real Javier Baez,
than what he was at the beginning of the season.
We already talked about Robles.
He's just, like, even if you say, I think he's going to hit better than this,
and I do think he's eventually going to hit better than this,
he's 22 years old, I think he has a very bright future.
He's still not running at the rate we were hoping that he would run at
or the rate that he did in the minor leagues.
And that's the main point of value that we were hoping for from Victor Robles this season.
He's attempted now 13 stolen bases, and he's been caught four of them.
So have you moved Mercado and Luriano ahead of Robles?
He is one spot behind, but they go in order now, yes.
Oh, okay.
And then Baez, you have fifth at second base?
He is fifth at second base right behind Cattel Marte.
He is sixth at third base right behind Escobar,
and he is 10th at shortstop right behind Tatis.
Oh, okay.
I just want to add on Bayez that
there was a big drop in performance
when he started playing through an injury.
I don't know if he's still dealing with it,
but I remember Matt Snyder on our website
really bringing it down.
And, you know, something to keep mind.
Max Freed is the pitcher you're moving down,
but he did just have a great start.
Does that change anything for you with Freed?
He did just have a good start.
Great start.
A good start.
I don't think it was like six innings,
two runs allowed, six strikeouts.
I don't think qualifies as great.
It's good.
It's pretty good.
Eight hits.
Eight hits was probably the worst that number.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
I think what he's been so far with a 403 RA
is pretty close to probably what he is.
I have concerns that in the second half of the season,
he turns back into a long relief guy.
I was a little bit skeptical when things were going really well for him.
And now that he's cooled off,
he's dropped down to the 60 range at starting pitcher.
Okay, Scott White.
So if Heath's moving down,
Hobby Baez,
Victor Robles, and Max Reed,
tell us the three players
moving down in your rankings.
Aaron Nola,
who kept getting a pass
just because he was Aaronola
and coming off to good season.
There's just nothing really redeeming
in the underlying numbers
to make you think
this guy's going to be,
turning it around to be an ace still.
I think he'll turn it around to a degree,
but I have dropped him.
I made huge changes
to my pitching rankings this week.
I felt like I'd turn them completely upside down.
And Nola was a big part of that.
I moved them down to 35th.
Whoa.
Obviously still must own.
Whoa.
Obviously, a range where you're still probably going to start
at most of the time.
305th now.
Holy cow.
That is, whoa, I should have led the show with that.
Okay, 35th for Nola.
You're also moving down to Edwin Diaz.
Yes, Edwin Diaz.
35th in your closer rankings.
No, not that far. He's still in the top 10, but he had been one or two basically all year.
And it's kind of just, it's kind of just a statement on closer in general. You have, you have the guys who are good relievers and have the role all to themselves.
And there's like 15 of them. And whatever order you want to put him in is probably fine.
Diaz has fallen on hard times lately.
His whip no longer looks so great.
His numbers as a whole or even before
than we're looking worse than last year.
Not to the point you're really worried about his job security,
but to the point, like, is he really better than Brad Hand?
I'd already moved him behind Kirby Yates,
but is he really better than, like, Felipe Vasquez?
It's just such a jumble there in the top 15
and that we were paying a premium for Diaz over those other guys.
I think, in retrospect, seems kind of not smart.
And Heath was, you know, Heath was at the forefront of that, so good for him.
And Daniel Murphy, the last guy, just the only guy in your rankings that is ahead of Diaz that I think shouldn't be is Vasquez,
just because I think there is a chance that Vasquez gets traded.
And if he gets traded, there's a chance he's not a closer anymore.
So I just want to throw that scenario out.
But Daniel Murphy, he's been playing pretty well lately, Scott White.
and he now is moving down.
And by the way, this is the end of the show.
So make it good.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm moving Daniel Murphy down.
And I'm not moving him down to a place where I'm absolutely dropping him in all leagues.
But, like, I feel like I had been unwilling to move him down at all when, you know, a lot of the underlying number suggested I deserve to.
Not only the fact he's not quite an everyday player, as many have pointed out.
but his ex the quality of contact he's been making is so poor he's still been making a lot of it but it's so poor that his ex-b-a is 222 his ex-woba is 266 which is bottom five in baseball those are expected stats so that that's that's assuming things normalized and it's even worse than his numbers actually are so uh it's i'm not optimistic about daniel murphy anymore even though he is showing some
some small signs of turning things around.
I am willing to stash him a little longer
just because the upside of course field is so great.
But we're getting close to the point
where I'm not even willing to do that.
We are going to just remain forever on the opposite sides
on Daniel Murphy because I was,
I think just yesterday I admitted,
or Sunday maybe,
I admitted I was wrong about Daniel Murphy
because he has a 971 OPS in June.
So, yeah.
It's mostly because of a lot of multi-hit games, though, right?
He has a
He has a 600 slug
In June
Yeah
Okay
Yeah
It was a curious time
Move him down
But at the same time
I mean he will sit
Sometimes against lefties
So
It was probably
I was overdue
You know
Like early on
I didn't move him down
When I should have
And so now it's appropriate
And I moved him too far
And now I've moved him back
All right guys
So we
Do have
Like we actually have to go
I apologize, so we have to vacate the studio for Cannell and Bell,
which is a great podcast that you should be listening to.
I failed miserably on this rundown.
There were about 15 players I wanted to talk about,
including Michael Brantley,
who ombered for the first time in 32 games, at least 32.
And we will try to talk about that tomorrow.
Also, a topic for tomorrow's show.
I, Adam Azer, I think I am officially tired of X stats.
So chew on that for the next 24 hours.
We'll talk to you soon.
I'm using them more than ever.
We'll talk to you soon on Fantasy Baseball today.
Thanks for listening, everybody.
