Fantasy Baseball Today - 06/26: Worryometer, Prospects, Tue. Recap (Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: June 26, 2019

Blake Snell FREAK OUT!!! How worried are we about Snell (2:00)? Chris Welsh of the In This League Podcast joins us to break it down. Then we prioritize Ross Stripling, Julio Urias and Adbert Alzolay (...8:40) ... Back to the Worryometer (17:00)! Justin Turner, Khris Davis, J.T. Realmuto and more. Plus news and notes (30:00) ... Looking to stash a prospect? We've got some names for you (38:10). We also hear Adam's bold take on Dallas Keuchel. Then we get into Tuesday's action with a "Hey, Real Quick" (47:30) comparing two stud 2B, streaking hitters (49:30), SPs to rank (53:35), a Kyle Gibson debate and more ... Email us at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast from CBS Sports. What a fantasy question? Email Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. Get ready to win your league. Well, fantasy! Now here's Adam, Scott Heath and Chris. Late night fantasy baseball today. Welcome to the show, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Okay, you're hearing this on Wednesday, June 26. I am recording this and I am exhausted on Tuesday. on Tuesday. You're exhausted. You're exhausted. You're exhausted. I'm actually, this is my like prime work time right here. So I'm energized. I'm going to carry the energy level here.
Starting point is 00:00:46 That's true. So that's Scott. I'm Adam. And we got a special guest. His name is Chris, but he's not Chris Towers. He is Chris Welsh. He is a fantasy baseball podcast host. He is a prospect aficionado.
Starting point is 00:00:58 He hosts the In This League podcast. And he does the Prospect One podcast as well. I've listened to his show. I've been on his show. They have a drop that is just me laughing, and it's really weird. And Chris Wells, welcome to fantasy baseball today. What's up, dude? Gentlemen, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:01:16 I've told you before. It's literally my favorite drop that I have in our whole thing. We'll do different sounders and whatnot on the End This League podcast. But there's nothing I love more, and I'm going to play it for you real quick than the Adam Azer laugh track. It's anytime I can drop it I actually I was communicating with you other day on the podcast I said something I'm like right azer So that's my favorite thing so weird
Starting point is 00:01:43 So thank you for that gift you've given us Scott is that how I laugh I guess it is right Yeah I mean that's that sounded like a genuine laugh That's not usually the laugh you give me Oh I'm more subdued All right
Starting point is 00:01:56 It's a laugh I got when I told Adam You have to watch cable guy And then he just laughed in my face and said, yeah, I'll get right on that. Yeah, Chris and I have this long-running thing where he likes cable guy, and I, it's the worst. So, listen, we'll learn more about Chris and his movie tastes and all that in a bit. We're going to talk prospects. It's Worryometer Wednesday, and Blake Snell is the headliner on the Worryometer.
Starting point is 00:02:19 So I did a Twitter poll. Let's see, let's see if we can get some updated results here. Basically, how worried are you about Blake Snell with three options? He's got a 501 ERA, by the way, right now. Not worried at all, moderately concerned, and, very concerned in all caps. So 9% said not worried at all.
Starting point is 00:02:38 48% said moderately concerned. And 43% said very concerned. Yeah. The 43% are the people who follow me on Twitter, I think. Because my timeline was blowing up during all of this. And I know
Starting point is 00:02:54 people are tired of hearing me say it. And as we discussed last time, I'm tired of having to say it. but I don't see any huge cause for concern here. And I've looked. I've looked. It's basically the last three starts where there might be cause for concerns. The RA has gone for about 350 to over five during that stretch.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And the one thing I could find is, you know, most starts he's averaged over 96 on his fastball. The past three have been between 95 and 96, but this most recent one here was 95.5.5. So even that feels kind of like nitpicking. I guess it's possible that pitching through a broken toe in May, which mostly went very well, by the way, he developed some kind of bad habit mechanically. But if that's it, like I feel like I trust him to figure it out. I'm not. And then you look at the actual peripherals themselves. I mean, he went into this start with a 338 FIP, and the XFIP was even lower than that.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Uh-huh. So, all right, I guess we're going to just jump right into Blake Snell on the Worryama. I guess. I was kind of geared up for it. Yeah, yeah. And, look, I mean, I understand why people are freaking out right now. It was a terrible start against the Twins. It was, like, 11 hits and seven runs.
Starting point is 00:04:20 So, all right, if I had been voting, I probably would have voted for moderately concerned, but I would have been in between not worried at all and moderately concerned. My worryometer on Blake's snow would be. a 5. Chris, how about you? I'd say I'm probably sitting at around a three because I do think that I think what we're seeing with Blake Snell is just part of what we should have expected. I mean, what was the huge narrative in the draft season? It was regression. You know, Blake Snell, there's got to be
Starting point is 00:04:49 some regression based off of last year. The point totals, they're going to come down because you know, they were heavily weighted on wins. But, you know, kind of like Scott was talking about, before this game coming in, his ex-fip right here, was literally 0.01 lower than it was last year. So you had a 1.89 ERA the entire year last year, but a 316 X-FIP. He had a lower X-FIP this year, and his ERA is three points higher.
Starting point is 00:05:13 The only peripheral stuff outside of game to games, you see, he had a completely unsustainable left on base percentage last year, 88%, really, really high. It's gone down to 69%. And he's like a career, 76% guy, and he's giving up more homers. So why I say I'm not too concerned
Starting point is 00:05:28 is because I had kind of baked in some of my thought process that he was going to regress a little bit. And I think this is part of the process. So people are freaking out right now and it creates maybe a buy opportunity. But I'm with you, Azer. I was like between moderately concerned, maybe not worried at all. Okay. Yeah. I mean, regressing a little bit in 501 ERA are obviously very different, Chris.
Starting point is 00:05:47 True. Yeah, I mean, that's like the difference between Ace Ventura and Cable guy, you know. Yeah, and I don't think particularly in this pitching landscape, if Snell's ERA. I'm sorry. I just plowed through that trick. Thank you, Scott. It was a good one, too. It was a good one.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I'm terrible. Like, if he is, if his ERA was basically what his FIP or XFIP was in this pitching environment with the strikeouts he has, which by the way, still far and away the best swing strike pitcher in baseball, I don't think anyone would be concerned. But the fact that, you know, things have come together. Things have broken in such a way over this past three starts that the ERA is now a huge. scary number and even that like okay so the first two starts he struggled with walks four and each this start he gave up 11 hits eight of them were singles I mean the the three start stretches a total of seven innings two home runs allowed I just have a hard time believing that's a guy who's lost it like no I and and the only
Starting point is 00:06:51 thing I want to throw in too I because I agree and part of like expanding on what I was saying is we're also in a snapshot And that's got to think that's kind of like what you're saying. Like when I say, hey, look, you know, it's a 5ERA. The exfip is really close to last year and there's a couple peripherals that are off. Let's not be crazy worried. It's also because the season isn't done. This is a snapshot of this moment.
Starting point is 00:07:09 At this moment, these last two or three starts have made this look really bad. But as we've kind of pointed out here, there's not a whole bunch of things that jump out to you that say, wow, this picture is lost and broken outside of, you know, there's a pretty high babb that's attached to him. So some things are going wrong here. His K per 9 is up a full K per 9 right now. his walks are in line. It's just the homers, and he's not leaving guys on base. He's not getting the wins. So the snapshot right now looks bad. But I think as a whole, when we're done at the end of the year, we're going to look at Blake Sneller and be like, well, obviously, it wasn't the 1-8-9 ERA and 21-win season we saw, but it evened itself out into maybe the high-3, high-3, high-3, high-3, or high-3s, and it worked itself out into the regression that maybe we thought. All right. You know, I would be, though, just I would be disappointed if he finishes with a high-3, low-4 ERA. You know, like, At this point, and it's 501 and we're halfway through the season,
Starting point is 00:08:01 so I don't expect him to have a sub-3 ERA, but I'd like for him to go on a run and get and finish with like a 330 ERA. Is that too much to ask the Welsh? I think it's in. I think you can get that with this team. It's just, like we said, I mean, what is this? A lot of this is compounded in last three starts. I'm a believer in a second half Blake's now.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I think if there's a guy that can pull off a run, a guy that's dropping 12 strikeouts per nine innings, you know, with not an unreasonable walk ratio. I think there's a guy that can do this, and I think you can get to the low threes. Just if you think you're getting two and a half, you will be disappointed. But, you know, we've got a whole half season left.
Starting point is 00:08:37 This is good. I feel less lonely now. Yeah, that's the time to buy. Back and forth's on Twitter, we're feeling pretty lonely tonight. Yeah, now's the time to buy for sure. All right, so then there's this section called these guys, so I wanted to talk about.
Starting point is 00:08:51 So how would you prioritize, based on tonight, all three of them pitched, Ross Stripling, Julio O'Reis, and Adbert Alzali, and it is Alzali, by the way. And let's go through the numbers. Alzali, four and two thirds, left with the bases loaded, walked four batters, came pretty close to getting a strikeout to get out of the fifth inning. And I don't know if he would have come out for the sixth or not, but he left with the bases loaded that got out of the jam.
Starting point is 00:09:16 So he gives up one run on one hit. First pitch of the game, he gave up a home run to Acuna. It did not give up a hit the rest of the way. And so off a pretty good start, you know, didn't go deep in the game, but pitch well. Ross Stripling. That's his first eight and two-thirds innings now. As Eliza is allowed two hits. Two hits.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Yep. Ross Stripling, 83% owned, three innings, four hits, two runs, one walk, four strikeouts. And the game is in progress right now, and Julio Reyes is actually in line for the win. Joe Kelly came in and pitched the fourth inning. And Arias, last I checked, he had pitched two scoreless. innings, fifth and sixth, and now he's on the mound in the seventh, and currently two and a third, one hit, one strikeout, no runs. So I'll go to you, Chris.
Starting point is 00:10:05 How would you prioritize Ross Stripling, Julio Arias, and Adbert Alzalai? Now, this one's tough. Like, Alzalai is interesting. I'm out here in Arizona. I cover prospects, and I saw Alzalai out here in the Fall League. And he was really reminiscent of Justice Sheffield when I saw him. He was working short innings, high two pitch pitcher, not really solid into any other offering. So I have a hard belief and I'm not going to really buy into Aalai, even though he's got some stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:33 He's got some short inning stuff. I have a hard time believing the rest of the season. He's going to be able to run the full weight. Stripling and Yorias are really, really interesting to me. And I actually think what the Dodgers did tonight should be flipped. I think Yorias should almost play the opener because I don't think they want him to go 50, 60, 70, 70 pitch. is they said they want him out of the pen. So I actually think they should use him in an opener,
Starting point is 00:10:56 an opener situation. So stripling, as they stretch him out, can go 75, 80, and then he can go, you know, third inning to seventh inning, something like that. So I would prioritize stripling.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I think he's really solid. Eorius right behind him. And regardless of Alzali's really solid numbers right now, he'd be kind of a distant third between the three of them for me. Scott, how about you? I actually go Alzalai number one
Starting point is 00:11:20 because I feel, like there's, I mean, just the fact that Ereus and stripling are kind of competing for each other's innings is a big knock on them. And I feel like Aalai's made some big strides within this season. His, you know, he had 12 swinging strikes today. They were almost evenly distributed between three pitchers, the fastball change up in curveball, which is also something Theo Epstein talked about in the weeks leading up to his promotion. And though, obviously, the walks were an issue today, he loaded the bases on walks and that's how he ended up with four in that final inning. He had five total walks in his last five minor league starts.
Starting point is 00:11:59 So I'm hopeful something was gained there too, and this is just obviously adjusting to the major league level. But I just, I think the opportunity, from game to game anyway, in terms of being allowed to go a certain distance, I think will be higher for Al-Zalai. Yeah, what's interesting is, okay, Al-Azalai probably,
Starting point is 00:12:23 unless I'm forgetting someone, he probably needs Kintana to get the boot because Hendricks will be back sooner than later. So Azalei will have a bit of an audition here. But there's not an obvious spot. We're talking about going six-man, and I think they actually are going six-man right now with Chatwood being the extra pitcher.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And I don't know how long. Do you believe they would stick with that, though? I don't. I don't either. Well, they were talking about it before Hendricks got hurt. as a way of getting Aslai in the rotation. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:54 It wouldn't be a permanent situation, no. So I have a league where it was weekly fab and it runs tonight. And I have Erius. I did not pick up stripling. I picked up Ereas after the Hill injury. And this is a long-term injury. I think it makes sense to at least short-term own both and see if one of them can win the job.
Starting point is 00:13:15 That was exactly my thing with you, that was exactly where I was going, why they were so close. It's like get both and see who. can come out on top. Yeah, and stripling is pretty much owned, but Aureas isn't. So we'll see what happens. And look, there is some value to those guys that are RP eligible that come in. And like, like I said, Arreus is in line for the win right now.
Starting point is 00:13:34 So I don't know what's going to happen by the time you all hear this podcast. You'll know what has happened. But these guys, they come in after openers and they get wins. So, you know, it's not for every league. It's not for a points league, most likely. But, you know, it's something to that. Basically this. If either Stripling or Arias gets that job and becomes a starter and goes five to six innings each time out for the next couple months,
Starting point is 00:13:57 I think we all are going to want that pitcher, whoever it is. I would guess Stripling has the leg up right now. All right. So let's do the Wariometer. We did Blake Snell. Well, let's get to know Chris Welsh here. First of all, I feel like your name should be W-E-L-C-H instead of S-H. The Welch thing.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It is the bane of my existence right now. I've been getting this because it's the Welch soda thing. I'm like, hey, nickname is Purple Drink. I get it. I get people still. I just want to point something out. If somebody emails me, they have to type in, is it the Welsh at gmail.com or my Twitter handle, yet I still get people that go, dear Mr. Welch. And I just, I can't wrap my head around.
Starting point is 00:14:44 You just gave out your email address on the show. We have like a ton of listeners. You know that, right? People can email me. That's fine. I'm a nice guy. You are a nice guy, I think. So it's Welsh with an S.
Starting point is 00:14:55 is it the Welsh at Twitter.com? Or no, email. And on Twitter, is it the Welsh? And you're out in Arizona. Yep. And it's 9 o'clock for you. It's midnight for me and Scott. So I can't believe you guys did this for me too, because when we were setting this up,
Starting point is 00:15:11 you're like, all right, we do 830 Eastern AM. And I was like, oh boy, let's strap in. Let's saddle in. That's 5 a.m. over here, but I would have done it, but you guys did me a salad, so I appreciate it. No problem, yeah. So we actually, we had a scheduling issue for a Wednesday morning show, and we had to do it tonight, so I thought it's perfect. This works out perfectly. And, yeah, so you host in this league. It's very funny. There was an email from one of your listeners, because you've had, you've had me on several times.
Starting point is 00:15:39 You get guests from all other podcasts, and one of your emailers wrote an email called Fantasy, what was it, Fantasy High? like fancy high school. Oh, fantasy baseball high. I completely forgot about this. Yeah, you referenced it in when you and I were chatting about it. I'll see if I can even find it. But yeah, listener, because we open up and just like you guys do, you know, we say, hey,
Starting point is 00:16:01 you guys want to email us stuff, whatever it is. Obviously, fantasy questions are what we want to answer. But we encourage people to have fun. And someone emailed us in and they were, this guy, Devin. And he was like, all right, he's like, I don't have a fantasy question, but I want to let you know, know who everybody in the fantasy baseball industry would be if they were in high school. And I eat this stuff up and I'm like, let's go. Let's see who all this is. And of course, there's some absolutely ridiculous ones, you know, people giving kudos to other people. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:16:30 that guy's not the popular guy in the high school. And you guys, the CBS crew was mentioned as, God, I'm looking for it. I think it was like the, the nerd. Yeah, the smart nerds. Yeah, the A plus nerd students in the back. And I was like, okay, that's, I mean, that's not insult? No, actually, it was kind of weak. Like, I wanted a better, even more insulting one than that. Like, ours was so plain, but all right, whatever, we can take it. Scott... That's probably actually what I was
Starting point is 00:16:56 in high school, so it might be... It might have been the most fitting description. Yeah, save here, save here. All right, great, good for us. I watch baseball every night. Okay, so anyway, we've talked about like four guys. Let's get to it. Worryometer. Zero to ten. I don't even know if the Welsh knows how the segment works, but I think
Starting point is 00:17:12 he figured it out. Zero to ten. Ten, you're extremely worried. Zero, you're not worried at all. Justin Turner, of course he homered today. He hit three home runs on May 7th and two more home runs in his next three games. And since then, one home run since May 11th until, of course, tonight where he homered off Robbie Ray. But, yeah, I mean, people have been asking, is Justin Turner anything more than just batting average and going into tonight's game? Number 19, third baseman and points, number 25 in Roto. Zero to 10, Chris, on Justin Turner on the Worryometer.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I have to go with two because I think Justin Turner is showing us. exactly who he always is. He is a high batting average guy. I think he is kind of a heavy batting average. That's the big counting tool that you're going on. He's only hit 20 plus homers twice in his career. He's went over 71 RBIs over that once in 2016. So he's a moderate runs, moderate RBI. He doesn't chip in with the stolen bases. He's if adequate at best at home runs. But what he does is it keeps you in on average. And if you play in OBP leagues, that makes sense too. So I just, I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:18:16 If anybody owns Justin Turner and they're looking and they're having this major worry, why? This is what you should expect, a low counting stats type of player. So I would say it too because I think he's on target. If the batting average were down to 270 and even the homers were up a little bit, I would be worried because he would have moved off of the player that I thought he was. No, but he's got a 132 ISO. Yeah, it's like 70 points down. And it's not, it's, you know, it's what, a 15 Homer pace so far?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah, he had 14 last year in 103 games. He played two thirds of a season last year. The doubles are low too, though, because he's usually a 30-something double guy and he only has 13 right now. But I will say, like, in terms of quality of context, his ex-WOBA is 399, which is about what it's been, you know, since he's been a good player. His actual Wobba is only 356. So he's underperformed his peripherals in that way. I just, my concern with Justin Turner is more, like, who, do, like, I've stuck in the league where I've drafted him, I've stuck with him as my starting third baseman because I expected him to come around and it hasn't happened. And all the third baseman I've missed out on because of that.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Like, it's probably too late at this point. You have no choice but to trust him. But it's, you know, I wish a, I wish by draft. him, it made me less aggressive on the waiver wire than it probably should have been. Can I ask you guys you guys too? I'm curious, just like on Justin Turner, do you guys find a level of disappointment in like what baseball is now and how the ball flies at the major league level that you look at him and you look at this average? And I think we've all over the last couple of years we've extrapolated and said, well, this guy who makes, you know, this type of contact, lots of it,
Starting point is 00:20:01 the ball has to fly out. You think like that's built into the expectations of why of all the players is he not making any great contact in this game today? I am so over, like, evaluating hitters pretty much just in general. And in a year, and this was something I was talking about on the podcast yesterday, i.e. this morning, in a year when Cotel Marte, who was billed as this Ender-Nciarte type, can be on pace for 40 homers, with peripherals that entirely back it up, by the way. And people hardly bat an eye in. Like, this is just what the environment is.
Starting point is 00:20:38 anybody could hit any number of home runs and it wouldn't be that shocking and it's made it's made like evaluating prospects hitting prospects coming to the majors especially hard but even even evaluating major leaguers hard like my take on jesse winker coming into the season is hey if he can hit for the power in the he showed in the weeks leading up to his injury um which seems highly plausible in this environment, you take his contact skills, his on base skills, you're going to get a stud. He's it for the power, but then everything else has gone away. So, like, it's, I'm having a hard time narrowing down who's going to be the guy to capitalize on the league-wide power search.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah, I like hard contact rate plus fly ball rate. And Turner's got one of those two. He's hitting the ball really hard. He's got a career high, 51.9% hard contact rate. That's really good. But fly ball rate's a little bit down. So I think if Turner can just start hitting the ball in the air a little bit more, we could see more pop.
Starting point is 00:21:42 But at least you're getting batting average. All right, Chris Davis has been the most consistent player in baseball. Bats 247 every year, except for this year where he entered Tuesday night batting 248. So big outlier season there. But for him, seriously, the plate discipline's a little bit worse. And the home runs are down. I mean, there's no question. 42, 43, 48 home runs
Starting point is 00:22:05 His last three seasons. Right now he has 16 home runs in 65 games entering Tuesday, just a 463 slugging percentage. So Scott, zero to 10 oriometer on Chris Davis. Oh, probably only like a three. I mean, there's a good chance he goes on a heater and gets back to his usual home run pace. I just feel like even knowing coming into the season,
Starting point is 00:22:28 okay, the environment's different now. Home runs don't count for as much. It's gone beyond those expectations this year. And home runs are basically the only thing he brings to the table, and especially since he's DH only, that hopefully that changes with the upcoming Interleague series. He'll pick up outfield, at least in CBS leagues. Oh, that'd be nice.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Like, I draft, he was my third or fourth round pick in the podcast points league of ours, and I haven't started him, I think, since he went on the I. Because I picked up Josh Bell and I already had Anthony Rizzo. Where am I going to put him? It's just a difficult fit. And enough players have either caught up to him or passed him. That it's really hurt his value.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Okay, next one. Let's go to Chris on this one. Austin Meadows, who going into Tuesday night, I think he had another kind of bad game. 304 with 12 home runs and eight steals. That's great, but obviously slumping. He was batting 217 with no home runs and one steal. And the plate discipline has gone way in the wrong direction. Six walks, 27 strikeouts in June with that 217 batting average with no home run.
Starting point is 00:23:36 So it's been a pretty extended slump about four weeks now for Austin Meadows. Get your worryometer out, zero to ten on Austin Meadows. I'd have to say, I think I'm sitting between a five and a six. And I'll be honest with you when I was kind of checking this out. I wanted to be less. I actually wanted to kind of like some of the guys we've been talking about, I want to say two or three because if you look at the season totals and he's hitting the ball a ton harder, there's already a lot of the good peripherals that kind of work in his advantage of a developing hit
Starting point is 00:24:05 or hitting the hard hit percentage of 9% this year. But you go and look at those March and April numbers and those main numbers really unsustainable, like 356 average, everything going in his way. And then now it's coming back down to earth. So, I mean, it is evening itself out. But these long extended streaks, these are the things that get me more concerned than like, Take what we were talking about with Blake Snow, where it's kind of a three-start look. I'm not as worried about that.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Obviously, it's a pitcher. It's different. But you start getting into those four, five, six weeks of not just like 356 down to 270, but down to 217. I am worried. The ball is not coming out more. He's striking out more. I have a level of worry because I think of where the expectations have gone to Austin Meadows,
Starting point is 00:24:48 where I think a lot of we had anointed him this top 50 player overall because of the early season performance. And this is really going to mess with valuations moving forward. I'm not sure the worry factor is enough to go and hit the panic button and sell, sell, sell, sell, sell. If I was worried, I would wait for him to pick it back up for a little bit and then move him. But I think it justifies a five or a six with this extended slump. Scott? I would go lower.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I'd probably go like four. But, I mean, I agree with the idea that, okay, he's about regressed to where it. We thought he was going to request, or at least I thought he was going to regress. But when it happens all at once, is supposed to gradually over the course of several months. It's a little alarming. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, I'm a little concerned, but not to the point that I'm, you know, even sitting him, much less selling him. All right. J.T. Reamuto next up on the Oriometer. J.T. Reamuto, the number four catcher in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:25:53 That's not terrible. not what we drafted him to be. He's second in plate appearances among catchers. That's good. Scott, zero to ten on J.T. Reamuto. I'm going to go... I'm going to go with about zero here. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Yeah. I mean, I guess I ranked him the number one catcher coming into the season, and do I expect him to be the number one catcher anymore? No. But I expect him to be better than he's been so far. I mean, he's making, his average exit velocity is actually higher than it's ever been. His ex-Woba's normal. I feel like he's underperformed his peripherals.
Starting point is 00:26:37 And if, you know, he ends up getting past because Grandal ends up playing more than he's ever played before. And Gary Sanchez has the dream rebound season. I can live with that. I mean, it's still, there's basically four catchers who are stand out from the rest of them. and I would consider Real Muto one of them. Wilson Contreras be the other. Okay. Any concerns, Chris?
Starting point is 00:26:58 Yeah, I mean, a little bit comes back to some of the draft valuations. I almost treated catchers like I would treat tight ends in football. I want to wait until the back end of it. I would be concerned if I had Real Muto now because of the investment. It's not that he's not at least, and I guess back to like Scott's giving it a zero. He's still going to contribute the top 12 starting catcher, so that's good, especially in the environment. But you go and look at the cost.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Seven catchers have more homers. Five have a better average than him. Four catchers have more RBIs. Three of those four had a significantly lower preseason rank. So when I look at those things, it just kind of tells me, like, I don't have zero shares of J2 Romito. So it makes me feel better about it. But I would be concerned if I owned him. I'd say it's a four.
Starting point is 00:27:45 But thankfully, you know, you don't have to worry about kicking him off your team or anything like that and putting, you know, Mitch Garver or anything. or Christian Vasquez in your lineup. Yeah, Mitch Garber, another home run today. So he's back in the lineup, yeah. And we're going to talk about Francisco Mejia, who has started five of the last six games for the Padres and he homered again today. And Scott and I own both those guys in a one-catcher league,
Starting point is 00:28:05 which is always a good thing to have two catchers. But, hey, at least they're playing well. All right, and then last guy on the Woriometer is Brad Hand. Holy cow. You have five runs tonight, last night, or whatever the heck you're listening on Tuesday night. Brad Hand, his ERA, spiked up from 105 to 236, did not record and out his first blown safe of the season. Zero to 10, Scott, on Brad Hand.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I mean zero. It was a bad outing. It's hard to make much of it in isolation. He gave up more runs in this one outing than he had all season, which tells you a little about the kind of season he was having. and he gave up a grand slam. You know, his velocity was normal. You know, I'm not sure what to make of it other than that. Bad outing.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I will tell you whose velocity is down when we come back from this quick break on fantasy baseball today. News and notes. John Carlow, oh, let me just say, I'm so tired. I hate doing the show at this hour. I hate it. How are you feeling, Scott? I'm good. I've been drinking some Code Red Mountain Dew.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Are you serious? is when you a computer hacker? You're going to be up all night. Not even a sponsor. Yeah, I kind of work. I kind of work weird hours, but we don't need to get into that. Yes, but you don't have to do the show tomorrow morning. That's the good news.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Yes. Wednesday morning. John Carlos Stanton left with a knee injury. Unbelievable. He's played nine games this year. He's going to have an MRI. I don't know if I'd rushed to – Oh, Scott, I forgot to tell you.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I put in a claim for Clint Frazier in our 16 team league. But not dropping anyone, so don't get mad. What? Is that legal? Yeah, it's legal. Okay. So, yeah, I don't know. I'm not rushing to pick up Clint Frazier because I,
Starting point is 00:29:57 because like last time Frazier played, Judge wasn't there, and Stanton wasn't there. Judge is obviously back now, so I don't know that he'd be a regular player. If there's an IL stint for Stanton. It didn't look that serious, but this guy is just like made of glass. It's really annoying.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Tim Anderson left with an ankle injury. Max Kepler left after being hit by a pitch, and this is probably my least favorite. part of doing the show right now is that I don't know the severity of these injuries. But I do know that Jordan Hicks is going to have Tommy John surgery. And we talked about that on Tuesday's show. Carlos Martinez, John Gantt, and Lego Mai Gallegos. Is that what you said, Scott?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Off the air, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Lego my Gallegos. Yeah, sure. That works. I just want you guys to know, I, since I don't have a show on Wednesday morning, I'm going to make banana pancakes.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Ooh. Oh, man. What goes with them? Is it just going to be straight up banana pancakes? No. You can do something special with them? Slice up some strawberries, put some strawberries on top of them.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Do you do the chocolate chips with the like banana chocolate chip? I'm not eight years old. I'm just going to go banana pancakes. Wow. I think you can enjoy chocolate chips and pancakes at any age. You know, I think so, but I might have to slightly disagree. I was with my boss. I was with my boss one time at a breakfast, and we were ordering, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:31:14 I'm going to order some pancakes. And then for some reason, I was like, ah, chocolate pancakes sound good. And as I was sitting there and he was eating what grownups eat, and I was sitting there just eating chocolate pancakes, I was like, this is a horrible idea. I look like a child. These are so sweet. I can't finish these.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And then I have to be like, oh, can I have some toast and some coffee, please? Well, you got to know your audience, I guess. Well, if you think of eating breakfast as a show. I don't know. And you do your show with Scott Bogman. He has never had kale. Is that right? No, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:45 we did well we did he's he's got a current thing going on of people have followed with the diamond bags we we we have this thing and we're both just you know fat slabs and that's just the life that we live and we we realize that we punish ourselves and we came up with this idea where we're like we you know when when something bad happens we don't do what some people would do some people have different addictions we go eat and we're like oh we're going to go to wood a burger and punish ourselves so we came up with this bit where every diamond back's loss scott would eat carls Junior and we have a video series of it. And it's got tens of thousands of hits on it now.
Starting point is 00:32:16 So he's got over 40 videos of it. And in that, people are like, you're going to die. You need to eat something healthy. And someone brought up kale. And Scott's like, I will never eat kale. So we did a bet. And I did an 11-minute video for our Patreon where I did the setup. I went to the store. I bought it and he had to eat a lot
Starting point is 00:32:33 of kale. And he was not happy. Cale's terrible, especially if you don't cook it. You have to cook it. Or it's just well, it was kale chips. And he was expecting. a chip, but I didn't tell him it's just a dried leaf. And he was not aware of that. Again, really not happy about it. All right, George Springer's back, column McHugh's back.
Starting point is 00:32:51 He's pitched out of the bullpen tonight. Joey Gallo's back. The Yankees set a record by homering in 28 straight games. Scott, I'm going to give you three players who have homered in back-to-back games. And two of them maybe get a little more playing time here. Tell me if you're interested in what you think about these guys who've homered in back-to-back games. Dominic Smith, 8% owned.
Starting point is 00:33:11 for the Mets. Michael Franco, he had started two of the previous nine games, and then he started two in a row and hit a home run of both of them. Michael Franco, still 48% own people. Like, you're out of your mind. He has been one of the worst hitters in baseball since like the second week of the year. But Yuleiguriel is the
Starting point is 00:33:27 other guy who was homered in two straight games. He now has seven on the year. Dominic Smith, Michael Franco, Yuliguel, are there any stories here? Well, it sounds like you gave the take on Michael Franco, so I don't need to go there. The only one who I feel like, it might be something different than we see him as is
Starting point is 00:33:45 Dominic Smith, but he's not getting an opportunity to play enough to know. It's great that he started back-to-back games. He had started one of the previous seven. Right, he needs to play more. I totally agree with that one, too. Why are they playing Robinson Canoe? Please put McNeil back at second and then give Dominic Smith some playing time. Well, yeah, but they're like Carlos Gomez and Juan Lagaris. I mean, it's even worse than that. Yeah. So there's ways to get Dominic Smith in the lineup.
Starting point is 00:34:14 And he's only 8% own. And I owned him for a little while. And then, of course, I dropped him this week. And of course, he hit home run in two straight games. But he's back on my radar. He is back on the radar. Ryan Zimmerman could be back this weekend. Caleb Smith's going to make another rehab start before he returns to the Marlins rotation.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Hunter Pence was supposed to come back on Thursday. I started Hunter Pence and I dropped Dominic Smith. And Hunter Pence is no longer going to come back on Thursday. Thursday. It's been that kind of year. I wonder if they're giving Caleb Smith, because he struck out 11 in his last rehab start. I wonder if they're giving them another rehab start because they can't figure out who to remove. Maybe. They're giving Yamamoto and Gallin and Hernandez, Eliezer Hernandez, one last chance to blow it.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Well, in Galen, I think goes Wednesday as people are listening to this. So, I mean, it could be a big marker to the difficulty that the Marlins are going to be faced with if Gallen puts up another performance like he did before. Yeah, they said with Smith, they wanted him to throw more pitches before coming back and get a little bit deeper into the game. But it could be a lie, lying jerks. Yeah, I heard that one before. Robbie Ray was watching the game tonight. In fact, you were probably watching it, the Welsh.
Starting point is 00:35:25 The broadcasters mentioned that his velocity was down. 92-ish instead of like 94-95. And he pitched pretty well. So he had a rough inning, sixth inning, I believe. but six in a third, three runs, two home runs. He pitched well, nine strikeouts, did what he does. He's his favorite thing to have problems, though. He loves to have, like, a really big problem inning.
Starting point is 00:35:47 He's been as much as I want to like him, I want to sell him. Oh, okay. You don't have to argue with me. He's like one of my least favorite. Justin Smoke expected a return on Friday, and guys, Denelson Lemette is nearing a return. Does anyone care about the Nelson Lemette for the Padres? He's 16% owned.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Wouldn't this year. I just wonder how easy of a time they're going to have fitting him in. This isn't, it's not like this was some stalwart that, you know, they've been dying. Well, I just mean they have a good, a bunch of good young pitchers who've pitched well enough to keep their jobs. And while I imagine they'll be able to find a way to shoehorn him in at some point, is it going to be with any consistency or is it going to be spotty work? I imagine the matter. I bet it's something like what the Dodgers are doing, because like what you're saying, you know, they've got Lamette, the podcast. do, but they've got, you know, Logan Allen, you know, and the Dodgers just bring up like
Starting point is 00:36:42 Gonselin and they're just continuously rotating these guys. The Braves have kind of done the same thing. The Padres could absolutely use this same formula of players. I think that's actually the play that Lament does. You know, he takes a little bit of a rest, sits down, they bring up a young starter. I think he's just inconsistent. If anything, he's a, maybe a nice points league streaming pitcher, but nothing to hold on to. Okay. So speaking of Logan Allen, he did pitch tonight. We have to get through some of the other stuff from yesterday, including Brandon Workman, who got the save for the Red Sox. Do you think he's the closer or do you think?
Starting point is 00:37:12 No. All right. I think there is no closer. Flip a coin. There is no closer. What's interesting is Brazier worked the eighth. I can't forget the other guy's name. Barnes and the 7th.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Barnes. Barnes worked the 7th. Yeah, each of them got a save since Workman's last save. So who knows? It's the deepest, most committed committee in baseball. Let's talk about prospects then. And first I got this email from Nick and he says, Would you drop any of the following for Brendan McKay?
Starting point is 00:37:43 Kent and Maeda, Dallas Keikle, or Chris Paddock? Would you drop any of them, Maeda, Keikl, and Paddock for Brendan McKay? No. I would. Oh, really? You think McKay's coming up this year? And you think in a significant role? So I think McKay is coming up around the All-Star.
Starting point is 00:38:01 There was a speculation by one of the beat reporters who said, I think they have a double header, like, right before the All-Star break, he thought maybe he'd come up for that. But he said it was just purely speculation. Yes, I think he will come up. I think they need him. Okay, like, Glass Now's out even longer now. Snell's pitching like crap. They need him, and he's been great.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Why wouldn't they bring him up? And I think, guys, that Dallas Kichel, ready for this? I didn't say this before. I'm going to say it now. Dallas Kikl should not be owned in 10 team leagues. Dallas Kikl should not be owned in 12 team leagues. What? And Dallas Kuykel should only be owned in points leagues in 14 team leagues or deeper.
Starting point is 00:38:37 He is a category killer. He is not good anymore. Who is? He's not. This is a hot take. And he is just not, like, he is not for me. I mean, he's at least Marcus Strowman, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:38:54 And I've always said that Strowman's only good in points. But I don't, like, I don't buy Strowman's ERA. and I don't know that Kyko is Stroman anymore. I think Kyko lost it. I think his velocity is too low now. I think the jig is up. Like last year was a pretty disappointing year, and he missed the whole, he missed half the freaking season.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I got nothing for Kai'Klemen. No hope. Like, in terms of WIP and ERA, he's probably not going to be a standout. You're right about that. But, and this is, you know, I was talking about how it's really hard to project hitters in this environment. It's even harder to evaluate.
Starting point is 00:39:31 UA pitchers. And, you know, that's part of what we're seeing with Snell now, is just things can go so colossally wrong over a short span of time for anybody. Nobody's been immune to this. The only pitcher, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:39:46 in the entire player pool, who's been an entire worry-free all season is Justin Verlander, and even he's outperformed his fit by him. No, he's giving up a ton of home runs. Like, there people are a little worried about it. Yeah, so there you go. I feel like you have to understand that most starting pitchers aren't really going to help you in ERA and WIPP anymore,
Starting point is 00:40:07 but you have one who pitches deep into games as Keikil does he, will he though? I don't, like, I just don't think he's that. Yeah, I mean, both of his minor league starts were seven innings, and that was coming off a stretch when nobody had seen him pitch for months.
Starting point is 00:40:19 He's based in minor leagues. But you also have half a season going on in a contract here. I mean, if this was done, if he was over, You don't think there would have been some type of a, we're locked into this, Boris and Keiko. He is, I think he is going to go all out on the back half of this year. He's going to go deep into games and he could help balance some categories.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Nobody wanted him. I mean, that's the thing. That's got to say something. Well, no one of the compensation to give up for him, which was the pick. But nobody gave him a multi-year deal. Like, what does that tell you about how people evaluate Dallas Keikle? Well, nobody had to give him a multi-year deal. And I think, I think once it gets to the point where he's sitting out a third of the season.
Starting point is 00:40:57 and he doesn't even want a multi-year deal. I totally agree. Kimber was set to it. Kimber wanted that deal. I think Keikl knows that he's going to be able to get the big... He has a half a season to prove it into next year. That's why I think you're going to get some surprising results from Keikl this year. Hopefully the good surprising.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Right. I think you're going to be surprised at how bad he is. But that's just... That's just out of Aza's little hot take. Okay, let's talk about prospects. Chris, who are the ones that you think we need to know about that could be coming up soon? All right, for this year. So I even...
Starting point is 00:41:25 I kind of assume we might talk about this. got a list of a couple different. Obviously, the guys that have been up, I do a top 500 prospect list. And by the way, good as to what you guys got on CBS here, because I play in the Roto Wire Dynasty Invitational, which is hosted by CVS.
Starting point is 00:41:41 It's 20 people, and I've done some mocks with Scott. And I love big expansive player pool. So I just wanted to give you guys a little plug for that. But yeah, I do top 500 prospect lists. And out here in Arizona, I was just out at a bunch of games.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I'm seeing these dudes, you know, CJ Abrams, Joey Gallo was just out here. rehabbing and stuff like that. But, uh, digressing here. But wait, not to interrupt,
Starting point is 00:42:01 but be honest, by the time you get to like 150 or so. Does the order really matter at that point? No, you know what? You're right. Like a lot of people get really worked up about lifts. Like,
Starting point is 00:42:11 they'll see someone and be like, let me ask you something. How can you have this player at 274? But you get this guy 214. And I'm like, dude, shut up. Like,
Starting point is 00:42:18 like the range here is about the same. It starts to block itself into tears. But I will tell you, I get guys into my 400s and I'm like, Oh man, I want to put this guy higher. But I'm just really delved into it. And I'm lucky because out here in Arizona, like the AZL is going on right now. So the Padre's first pick, C.J. Abrams, I was at his debut.
Starting point is 00:42:37 He hits a bomb. Marco Luciano, who if you guys playing a dynasty, everyone knows about Luciano. He's incredible. I was at his pro debut. So I get really locked into a lot of these younger guys. But you are right. Numerically, after around 150, people kind of need to get over themselves because it's just about strategy. And Scott, you would attest to this.
Starting point is 00:42:55 people kind of have this hard time figuring out who am I when I play my dynasty? Am I the best player possible or am I the guy that has the best opportunity to come up sooner rather than later? All right. So I don't want to – I hate to speed you up, but we – you know, we do kind of shorter shows. So I just want to make sure we get to it. So give me the prospects that our fantasy owners, at least in their seasonal leagues, need to have on their radar.
Starting point is 00:43:17 So the players that you should have been looking at that have been up, Keston here, Carter Keyboom, Luis Urius, and Nate Lowe, don't forget about them. Don't forget and make sure you're going. Guys that have not been up, I list them out. Hazis Lazzardo and Dylan Sees, I think, are obvious ones, especially if you're chasing pitching stats. Lazzardo is at the very top of my list. Ryan Mountcastle with the Baltimore Orioles.
Starting point is 00:43:36 He was playing left field on Tuesday night. Just more versatility. There's a big bat. Jake Fraley with the Seattle Mariners has been crushing it this year, 24 years old. I saw a ton in spring training. Very good bat. Brent Rooker with the Minnesota Twins could get an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Daniel Johnson with the Indians. and then if you are really digging deep, Anthony Kay had a great year at AA with the Mets, getting rocked as soon as he went to AAA. But those would all be names pitching and some hitting. I'd be looking at to help you the rest of this year. Scott, anything to add? In fact, he mentioned Dylan Cs, and we got an email about it. When is the proper time from Dylan in Detroit?
Starting point is 00:44:12 When is the proper time to stash Dylan Cese? He's probably number two. Well, he's probably number three for me if we were just doing pitchers. I put McKay ahead of him, but it's more, it's more. it's more in terms of potential impact than how clear the path is you know CES has had control issues and just hasn't been very consistent
Starting point is 00:44:36 to triple A could be great when it gets to the majors it's happened for a lot of upside pitchers actually happened exactly to Copac yeah there you go there you go it's so it could happen he'd probably be third on my list of just pitchers and I agree I didn't add McKay in there I know 100% agree it would be Lazzardo McKay then Cs for me yeah Uh, among those who haven't debuted, you know, I don't, yeah, I don't know that I have any names beyond that.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I'll be high on my list is, is of course, Kyle Tucker, who's basically been, uh, Jordan Alvarez since, uh, May 1st, except with speed. And then Luis Arias, who I don't understand why he's not the Padre starting second baseman yet. he's been ridiculous at AAA hitting for more power than I think most people thought possible, which is, you know, the way things go. Part for the course, yeah. Yeah. So he's going to be up soon. I'm not sure why it hasn't happened yet, but it will happen soon.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I got this Heath sigh from the other day. Oh, that's going to be. Is that a great drop or what? That doesn't sound exasperated, though. It sounds like... I asked him to rank Louise Castillo, Trevor Bauer, and, like, Charlie Borden or something, and he goes, oh, it was just wonderful. I have to rip one of our e-mailers real quick.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Nathan from Little Rock said, we forgot a Jordan Yamamoto team name on Team Name Tuesday, and he says, you've got to say it to the tune of Sticks, Mr. Abato. Don't mo arigato, Jordan Yamamoto. And then he said, now that is crushing Team Name Tuesday. Nathan, that is absolutely a terrible team name. Like it does not fit. The syllables don't fit.
Starting point is 00:46:22 It's just terrible. But thank you for listening. And now I'm seeing he's a first-time emailer and a big fit. Now I feel bad. And the last time. Yeah, no, listen, it's bad. But you can do better. So bring your A-game next time.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Back to baseball here. You got some prospects to stash. Hey, real quick, DJ Lemay, Hugh or Ozzy Albies. They both homered tonight, Tuesday night. And let's say, last night. They both home or Tuesday. And LaMayhew is a top four second baseman. Albies is a top
Starting point is 00:46:55 eight second baseman, I believe. Who'd you rather have real quick? D.J. or Albies? I'm going to say Albies, but it's acknowledging that Albies is a player I tend to overrate and LeMayhew's a player I tend to underrate. And I may be doing it again, but it looks like
Starting point is 00:47:13 peripherally what Albies is doing now matches up. And you know, DJ LaMayhew, he could have this kind of babbip in Colorado, but it's harder to do anywhere about Colorado. The Welsh? I agree. Yeah, very well said.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I'm with Albies there, and I know the hot hand right now is LeMayhew. You look at the average. You get all super excited. Runs and RBIs are turning in a better direction, but I'm going to stick with Albies, because I also think the Braves in the second half, it's just going to be this monstrous offensive output, and Albies will be kind of at the forefront of it.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Well, that's actually what I was going to bring up. Right now, going into Tuesday night, the Yankees had only scored five. more runs than the Braves in one fewer game. I now expect the Yankees to have the best or second best offensive baseball. The Braves will be up there too. But LeMayhew leads off. And he's not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:48:00 He's entrenched there, at least for now. He's going to be at the top of the order until he starts really slumping if that happens. Albi's bat's eighth. So that's a pretty big deal. That's like an extra played appearance, a game. Yeah. So I can't. I could be entirely wrong.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Honestly, DJ LaMayhew is a player. struggling with. I was just working on rankings before this. Obviously, he's eligible everywhere, almost. And I feel like, like, his production is so much higher than I have him ranked. Well, his batting average with runners in scoring position is outlandish. That has really helped. But he also has, he has 10 home runs since May 10th. Yeah. Like, his power has come, and that's, I don't really buy. But leading off of the Yankees It's going to be a good thing. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Anyway, they're both very good options right now. Some hitters who are crushing it. Scott Kingery, Dan Vogelbach, Francisco Mejia. Now, Kingery and Vogelbach are basically universally owned. He is only 28% owned. And, you know, so I mean, did he come off the IL? He was in the minors. He was in the minors.
Starting point is 00:49:10 All right. Since coming back, he's been like on fire. And he was on fire at AAA is to be expected. The main difference is that they finally realized Austin Hedges isn't getting it going at the plate this season, so let's turn it over to the kid, start of 4 or 5. And, you know, getting more consistent playing time is probably going to do him a world of good. Catcher is the one position where I feel like in standard-sized leagues there's real need. Somebody in your league could use him.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Maybe it's you. It's 5 of 6 games now because there's 4 or 5 going into Tuesday night. He started again. He homered at Baltimore, and he drew a walk. we know the pedigree for Mejia. Chris, you want to weigh in on Kingery and Vogelbach? Do you buy the seasons they are having? It's so, man, we kind of said it earlier.
Starting point is 00:49:56 What can he even say negative on Vogelbach at this point? Like, he's just doing exactly what you expect with what these big hitters, these Kevin Crone type of hitters are doing. And I think where we're at with him right now is exactly who he is. Kingry is a one that's super, super interesting to me, because he is the ultimate post-hyped sleeper from, you know, last season and how crazy the hype was now Mikhail Franco is off. I'm encouraged with Kingree where they're putting him in in the lineup.
Starting point is 00:50:22 There's a discouragement, I think, in kind of what's going on in Philly. There does seem to be a slumpness that happens, some low outputs from guys like Rameuto and Harper. But it's good to see Kingri in there. I think Kingree, it's not crazy to say Kingree is just an absolute must-own, right? Oh, definitely a must-on. But is he a cell high because that plate discipline is dreadful, eight walks, 41 strikeouts? Right now he's leading off for the Phillies. He's their best hitter right now, probably, like, you know, currently.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Like, like, you know, over the last couple weeks. And what's the thing that takes him off? Saezer Hernandez. I mean, I think he can maintain that. I think you should always, always entertain the sell high. And I would be there. It just depends, like, I don't know, Scott Kingery or Francisco Mejia, especially if you had a need a catcher.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I mean, which side would you, can you feasibly trade Kingree for Mejia and feel okay about it? Oh, that's, no, you have to get a lot more than Mejia for him. even in need? Yeah, I mean, it depends because what's Mahaia's ownership? It's 28%. Yeah, so that's, I mean, it depends on the depth of the league. I imagine a lot of people are just now picking up Maha
Starting point is 00:51:27 or haven't yet even. Yeah. But, you know, if it's like a 15-team two-catcher league, that's a different scenario, and maybe it's something to consider. Like, Kingery is absolutely going to regress, but he profiles probably for like a 300 batting average, 290
Starting point is 00:51:43 So he's not going to regress To a point where you're not going to want to use them at any of the positions He's eligible at least in like a standard Roto lineup Where you got the extra middle infield spot the two extra outfield spot Head to head lineup You know maybe he's more of an injury replacement off your bench type But either way he probably needs to be owned and You know you'd have to get something pretty good in return
Starting point is 00:52:06 I think he regress is pretty significantly below 300 by the way Like I think if you think he's a 300 hitter I think you don't sell him because I don't think his worth justify what people will pay for him. But if he comes back down to Earth as maybe a 240, 250 hitter selling out a little bit more, then you're going to come back down and he's going to be a 280-270 hitter, which I think is a little bit more reasonable. So that's why I would look and not try to get the super, super expensive buy on him. But if you believe he's a 300 hitter, I actually think he should hold.
Starting point is 00:52:35 All right, let's rank some pitchers who pitched on Tuesday. Shane Bieber pitched okay against Kansas City. David Price pitched very well against the White Sox. Madison Bumgarner had a great start against Colorado. Six innings, two runs, three walks, 11 strikeouts against the Rockies, and he got his fourth win of the year. So let's rank those three guys. Bieber, Price, and Bumgarner.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Scott. Bieber, Price, and Bumgarner. Nice bounceback for Bumgarner. All right, let's have about these next two. Max Fried, Kyle Gibson. Chris, who would you prefer between freed and Gibson? Man, I am justifiably not fair to Kyle Gibson. I'm going to say freed.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I'm going to go freed, then Gibson. Yeah, I mean, Gibson with a 426 ERA and a 125 whip, I understand why you'd be unfair to Gibson. Everybody seems to love him. Scott loves him. Scott loves him. Scott loves him. Scott, so you're the truther.
Starting point is 00:53:31 You're the Gibson truth. I'm the truther. It really comes down to swinging strike rate, which was great also last year, and it didn't amount to much. But it's... And then he had a terrible star recently that blew up at ZRA again. No, he had two. Two of his last three.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I mean, that's the thing, though, with him is that, like, has he ever put it together consistently in his career? Well, it's only bit... Like, before last year doesn't count. He became a different pitcher last year. Fine. So he's like the Christine Michael of pitchers. Like, every year we're just like, it's like, it's going to happen. It's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:54:08 in here. I can't, Scott, you're like the Bob Lazar of the baseball podcast here with the Cow Gibson. I just, I haven't seen it. When do you think we get it? What is it that we need to get from him? Well, I don't know that it's what we've gotten is really that bad. Like
Starting point is 00:54:24 No, it's not. You know, his ownership deserves to be what it is. He's got a lot of strikeouts. And, you know, if we were comparing him and Shane Bieber, okay. I'd rather, like, that's not really much of a comparison. But Max Reed, You know, Max Preet has had his ups and downs as well.
Starting point is 00:54:42 So I think they're close. I think Gibson is the better pitcher in terms of missing bats and Freed, you know, is decent at missing bats and a great ground ball guy. Both have underperformed their peripherals, actually. But I think I prefer Gibson. It's pretty close. Let me ask you about three more pitchers who started tonight. Tyler Malley, five innings, four runs at the Angels.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Andrew Heaney, five and a third, one run, but four. Four walks, four strikeouts, continuing just kind of a weird year. Every start weird in its own way, there's good and there's bad for Andrew Heaney. And Logan Allen, at Baltimore, Logan Allen had six innings of two-run ball. That's followed up seven scoreless innings against Milwaukee in his debut. He has 10 strikeouts in 13 innings, Logan Allen for the Padres. So Logan Allen, Tyler Malley, and Andrew Heaney, how would you guys rank them? Scott, I'll go to you first.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I think Heaney's shown the most in terms of ability And I am I am willing to roll the dice If it's if it's a bench spot I'm willing to roll the dice on any amount of ability Not really trusting in Heaney yet But he could get the swings and misses And that's my favorite thing in the world Logan Allen's been fine through two starts
Starting point is 00:55:59 But hasn't really stood out at any one particular thing is just kind of happened to put together too quality. I don't really have a good read on him yet, but he's a guy supposed to have some upside too. So I want to, like going back to the pictures we were talking about at the start, I would rather have Alzalai.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I would rather have Stripling or Aureas. But Alan, I think maybe is on the next tier of potential SP pickups. Boy, I got to tell you, I hate doing shows this late. Do you see the major, major storyline that I missed? I'm putting it in the notes for Thursday right now. I'm starting my Thursday notes.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Why can't we just say it now? Because we're 57 minutes into this show. Like, that is not the right time. Well, now I'm like, you got me kind of on the edge of my seat. What is it? I'm not seeing it. Jack Flaherty was dreadful tonight. Seven run runs in four and two-thirds against the A's.
Starting point is 00:56:55 The A's pulled out the hammer on him. They, you know, going back to the Super Smash Bros. brothers analogy. They got the hammer. All right, so let's just goof around for the last couple minutes here, and we'll save Jack Flaherty for Thuriameter Thursday. Oh, let's find a little bit more about the Welsh. Did you get this? Have you ever played Super Smash
Starting point is 00:57:14 Brothers? Let's start with that. I've got... How old are you? 36 years old. I'm so old. Are we all on the same plane? We're both 35. Oh, man, I'm the geeseer here. It's 36, guys. It gets a lot worse. It gets way worse. My kid, because I have children, by the way, has a Switch.
Starting point is 00:57:35 So I haven't played Smash Brothers yet, but we've been playing Mario Kart, and I've been introduced to that, and that's incredible. All I really know is the first Smash Bros on Nintendo 64. That was like the high school party game. Is it amazing? No, the high school party game was double-O set was Golden Eye, man. That's true. That is very true. By the way, in Fantasy Baseball High, Bogdan and I were the party house.
Starting point is 00:58:00 It was Welsh. It says Welsh was the rich parents who were always gone for the weekend. And Bogman lives down the street and comes over to swim in the pool and play video games. And we were nearly expelled for their senior prank. And you guys, just to give you the CBS listeners, you guys were voted the honor students. Adam Scott, Heath and Chris, CBS Fantasy Baseball today. Here are your valedictorians who take SAT classes on the weekends. The closest thing to a social function, they've seen as a pep rally.
Starting point is 00:58:29 All of them run track. Hey, I was playing Super Smash Bros. It's a part, all right? You were living it up. You were living the highlight. Oh, no, Golden Eye was definitely where it was at. All right, so you have how many kids? Oh, by the way, Scott hated Toy Story 4, so don't see it.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Oh, what? Did you go see Aladdin, though? No. I had no interest in that. Well, what are you? Communists? Why are you not like Aladdin? Well, I mean, Toy Story 4 was billed as, hey, this is a great movie.
Starting point is 00:58:59 and every single one of them has been great so far. In fact, they've gotten progressively better, but this was... Are you going to do the, like, Bogman hates Keanu Reeves? Are you going to say Keanu Reeves ruined Toy Story? No. Was he in Toy Story? He's in it. He's like the...
Starting point is 00:59:14 I mean, I just saw the commercial. He's like the stunt guy. No kidding. He's in it. And Buster from Arrested Development, can't think he's room. Tony Hale. How can this be bad? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:24 I mean, did you cry or something? Like, Toy Story 3 was depressing. Like, I rethought my life after. to Toy Story 3. I was like, oh my god, I think I'll like my kid. I thought Toy Story 3 was like the most beautiful ending they could possibly come up with. And not only
Starting point is 00:59:39 do they make a new ending now, but they invalidate that ending with the new ending in a way that's much more depressing to me. Like, I think he's given away. I think he's I'm going to interrupt Scott just so just so he doesn't make so many enemies by spoiling Toy Story 4.
Starting point is 00:59:57 That was just... I'm not given plot points. away. I mean, you gave away some of the ending here. Like, I've only seen Toy Story 1, and I already know how Toy Story 4 ends. Like, they all become real people. All right. The Welsh, thank you so much for coming on. Is it the Welsh on Twitter?
Starting point is 01:00:15 Good stuff, man. We appreciate it. Everybody listen to the In This League podcast and the Prospect 1 podcast. Thanks, man. Thank you guys for both having me. I really appreciate it. It was fun. Scott, whatever, dude.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I'll talk to you Thursday. All right, everybody. We'll talk you on Thursday on Fantasy Day's podcast.

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