Fantasy Baseball Today - 08/09: Most Added, Week 21 Help (Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: August 9, 2019

Starting out with the two-start pitchers we like next week, and there aren't many. And we've got some news items (5:28) and a question about Shohei Ohtani (10:00). Could he be a first round pick next ...year in the right type of format? ... Most Added list (16:25) which includes guys we keep talking about like Aristides Aquino, Gio Urshela and Aaron Civale. Find out who we're adding ... Double dongs (24:55) from Hunter Dozier, Nick Castellanos and a possibly very underrated Brian Anderson. Then we recap The Good (30:00), The Bad (32:00) and The Ugly (36:50) pitching performances, take another look at the two-start pitchers (39:15) and give you some weekend streamers (43:30) ... Your emails at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:02 All right, welcome back, everybody. It's Kokomo Friday on Fantasy Baseball today. It's always Kokomo Friday, Chris. Even if someone's not playing the music, just so you know in case you're hosting a Friday show. It's always Cocoa Friday. It's Kokomo Friday somewhere. That's what I was going to say. You stole it from me.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Wait a good start to the show. Now I'm throwing off. Welcome, everybody. On Friday, August 9th, we are ready to talk fantasy baseball. everything from yesterday, including my Dallas Keiko Victory lap, and much more. Bo Bichette, setting a record, Nelson Cruz with a wrist injury, and a note on a top prospect that you're not going to like,
Starting point is 00:01:10 I apologize. Chris, who is your favorite two-star pitcher for the next fantasy week, which I think is somewhere around 21? It is Week 21. I think the best two-star pitcher for Week 21 is probably Garrett Cole. He's got really good matchups at the White Sox, at Oakland. Gets a lot of strikeouts.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I'm going to put in a claim for Garrett Cole. Yeah, you should really try to go get that guy. Okay. But if I can't get him and somebody's owned in 70% of leagues or less, who am I looking at? Well, I guess. So I'm looking at Scott White, so I'm going to cheat a little bit. Scott White's got some sleepers here. He likes Joey Lucchase versus the Rays at Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:01:50 He likes Alex Wood. He likes Zach Gallons a little, just a little over that threshold. and Brennan McKay is 79%. That's below the threshold. No, 80% is not the threshold. 70% is the threshold. Well, you should have said that. I did.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I say it every week. 70% of leagues are less. Well, I should have been listening. The only one that meets that criteria is Alex Wood. And I don't know how Scott would feel about him after Wood really was pretty bad yesterday, very bad yesterday. and hasn't really given us a very good start yet. So I'm hesitant. This is not a great week for two-star streamers.
Starting point is 00:02:33 You've got interesting names like Dylan Sees, who's 50% owned, but he does have to play the Astros in the first game. Goes to Los Angeles to face the Angels, so that's not too bad. Mike Leaks an interesting one sometimes, but not at course field for sure. John Means, another one who can be interesting, but not at Yankee Stadium and at
Starting point is 00:02:54 Fenway. So it's a tough week to find a two-star pitcher who's widely available who you might be interested in it. I know we've kind of given up on this guy, but you say Kikuchi does have... You say. At Detroit and then at Toronto. Now, at Toronto is not as good a matchup as it was in the beginning of the season, but Detroit isn't the best matchup in baseball. He's really bad. He's really bad. I mean, there is, he had a good start last time out, and it was five innings, one run with eight strikeouts. There are so many bad stars. I mean, the last time he faced Detroit, it wasn't so bad. The two times previously faced the Angels 10 runs and nine innings.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Cacucci's matchups are Detroit and Toronto. You are acting like you're refuting what I said, but in fact, you are agreeing with what I said, which was that there are not many good star streamers. I'm somewhat interested in Dylan Peters you know he's 6% owned I don't know that he'll make two starts next week because he's sometimes used with an opener but two good appearances in a row for Dylan Peters and he does have good matchups with Pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:04:07 and the White Sox at home but I'm staying away I really am and there was one league where Anthony DiSkofani was available and it's the playoffs and I could use an extra start but I'm just not going to do it because Disclavani just hasn't been good enough lately. Yeah, I think at this point, just dance with who you came to the dance with, folks. You and I are not the type of people who would go to a dance with someone and then dance with somebody else.
Starting point is 00:04:33 At the point in my life, when dances were a thing, I did not dance, neither with who I came with or with someone else. That just wasn't, like, I like dancing now. Didn't you want to feel the heat with somebody, Chris? I mean, it's not that I didn't want to dance with somebody. I just didn't want to dance. Okay, okay. I think you probably did want to dance, but you were embarrassed. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah, it was the case for all of us back then. Weekend streamers will do later in the show. Today's sponsor is, of course, Seekek. We love Seekkeek. Very supportive of our show. They help make it possible. So please support Seekek. by downloading the Seek app, buying tickets to an event,
Starting point is 00:05:20 and using the promo code Fantasy to get $10 off your first purchase and letting them know that you listen to our show. The code is fantasy. Quick news and notes. Nelson Cruz left with a wrist injury. Bo Bichette became the first player since at least 1900. That's the modern era to double in nine straight games. My goodness.
Starting point is 00:05:40 David Price is on the IL with a cyst in his wrist, on his wrist. and he could be back fairly soon, but he has been pitching very well lately, and it could be attributed to the wrist cyst. Austin Riley on the I.L. With a potentially serious knee injury, and look, we weren't really so big on him this season,
Starting point is 00:05:58 but we hope it doesn't derail Austin Riley next year. Chris, ESPN.com, they had a story ranking the rookies on the Dodgers for the stretch run, and Alex Verdugo is number one. Number six was Gavin Lux. The Dodgers don't just see Lux as a longtime contributor for their franchise. They see him as an instant leader in their clubhouse,
Starting point is 00:06:18 even though he's a 21-year-old who has yet to play his first major league game. But they do not see Lux as an option for this year's postseason run, even though his AAA slash line, 452, 537, 841 in 149 played appearances, is absurd. Repeat, Chris, they do not see him as an option for this year's postseason run, Gavin Lux. Well, they're getting such good production from the second base. stop spots that they really have no reason to call them up. Are you being sarcastic? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Well, no, second base they are with Muncie. Sure, but he can play first base too. That's what I had been saying. You know, but I don't know. I take, that's a pretty interesting quote. Look, I'm not doubting it. It's just, it's annoying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:07 More news real quick. Lordeus Gurriel is day to day after leaving with a quad cramp. Jay Bruce is back. Are you interested in Jay Bruce? No, he's not going to play anywhere close to every day, is he? I don't know. Their outfield kind of not so good, although they do have Corey Dickerson now, who also sits against lefties.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Is he that much better than Cory Dickerson? They both are guys that you probably want to face more against Wrighties than anything else, and neither of them is very good defensively. So I just, I'm not sure how that's going to go. All right, Jay Bruce, mild enthusiasm. Do you have enthusiasm for Pittsburgh starting pitching process? expect Mitch Keller, who's going to get called up soon, reportedly, or a Kansas City catcher Nicholas Deany, who started yesterday?
Starting point is 00:07:52 Mitch Keller, for sure. As long, I mean, we saw him, what, make one start earlier this season, and it did not go. We saw him make three starts. They did not go well. But he has been pretty good at AAA, especially when you consider that even in the international league, home runs are up at record paces, and he's still. has a 356 ERA. So that's a good sign that he's doing well with the juice ball.
Starting point is 00:08:18 He's got really good stuff, decent prospect pedigree. He was a top 30 prospect across the board coming into the season. So yeah, if he gets a chance, I will be very interested in him. Mitch Keller. Okay, and then Deanie, he had a very good slash line in the minors this year, not so much before that. He also had seven steals and 58 games. Bad it toward the bottom of the order for Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And finally, Andrew Hini is going to start at Boston on Saturday. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we got an email to read from Mario. And then we got the most added list. We got some double dongs and some pitching performances, the good, the bad, and the ugly from Thursday's games. We'll be right back. We are back.
Starting point is 00:08:59 We had a very important break. I noticed during the break that Chris got a haircut. Chris got a haircut. Not during the break. No. Just to be clear. But I noticed during the break. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:11 So, all right, short here, Chris. Yeah, it's short now. It's short. I'm thinking about just shaving it all off. Ooh, I don't like that idea. Here's our email of the day. That's a terrible idea. From Mario from the biggest city north of San Francisco, which is apparently Santa Rosa.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Dear Mike and Yelich, I'm a longtime listener. I think Butterfingers are disgusting, but peeps are delicious. I've yet to dip them in tea, though. For the last couple of shows, you've talked about who should go number one in the 2020 draft between Yelich and Trout,
Starting point is 00:09:40 and I've got another candidate. Sho Hey, Otani. Okay, I get it. He's not really in the running, and in weekly changes leagues, he's basically just a near-A's pitcher. But let's take a look at a realistic possibility of what he may offer next year
Starting point is 00:09:51 in a daily changes or Roto Categories League. So, you know, you can use him as both a hitter and a pitcher, and you can change your lineup every day. Let's say he gets the hit in 120 games, and his line will be close to 20 homers, 15 steals, and a 280 batting average. Fantasy pitching is much more valuable in recent years, and even if the Angels are conservative, say 150 innings, you're still looking
Starting point is 00:10:15 at three-fourths of the year with near-age production. Am I crazy? First overall in 2020 for Shohei Otani, or at least in the discussion in 2021. Am I crazy? What are your thoughts on Otani 2020? I think in a daily league, he's not the number one overall pick, but I mean, this was kind of the whole, like if you have the ability to swap him between. pitcher and hitter, which you would on CBS.
Starting point is 00:10:43 So for a daily, you could make that switch. There's a case to be made for him as a second rounder probably. Like, you could be looking at a situation where he's like, I don't know, 70% of Ronald O'Cuna as a hitter and 70% of Jack Flaherty as a pitcher. It's pretty interesting. You're getting two roster spots with one pick, and in theory, getting good production is both a pitcher and a hitter. He's currently batting 287, 353 on base 511 slugging,
Starting point is 00:11:24 and he's kind of cold lately. We should note. I'll have to clarify this. Maybe next week we'll have an answer. I don't think he will be pitcher and hitter eligible to start next season. I believe he will only be DH eligible on CBS Sports. I think you're right. Yeah, it's a really good call.
Starting point is 00:11:44 There aren't that many leagues where this is going to be super relevant. Like Yahoo, you either got the pitcher or the hitter. I don't know how ESPN does it. But, yeah, here you've got both options, and we just make you declare in a weekly league if you want to use them as a hitter or a pitcher. And even in that format, I think you're talking about a fifth round pick, top 60 pick.
Starting point is 00:12:09 That's tougher. Why? I mean, first of all, he's good. Good enough. Well, the fact that he's only DH eligible kind of stinks, but he's really good. And he's a good pitcher on top of the hit. And you get to choose the weeks you want to use.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Like, you can sit him in the one-star weeks of a hitter. I like it. He's never going to be a two-star pitcher likely. Oh, I guess that's probably true. And then you have, so you'll have to choose one start versus, Like that, this is actually the opposite of what I expected when he came into the league. I expected him to not really matter as a hitter. I thought he was going to be like what he did last year as a pitcher.
Starting point is 00:12:53 More than 11K per 9, 3.3.E.1.E.R.A. That's what I expected from him. He lived up to my expectations as a pitcher. As a hitter, he's completely blown them away. He's been, I don't know, a top 15, top 20 hitter in baseball over the 8181 games. that he's played. So I didn't think he would matter as a hitter. Now, I think in a weekly league, you might use him more
Starting point is 00:13:16 as a hitter than a pitcher. Yeah, you might. So how valuable is he as a hitter? Let's say he was only a hitter, Shohay Otani, and only DH eligible. Next year, when would you draft him? I'd go a little higher in a Roto League than a points league. I think in a Roto League
Starting point is 00:13:32 you go a little higher because his plate discipline's not great. It's actually not that bad. He just doesn't walk a ton. But he does steal base. steals and you know batting average is good 285 as a rookie 287 this year so I think I don't know you're probably looking at 25 to 30 homers 15 steals
Starting point is 00:13:52 280 average round 8 yeah because the RBI and runs aren't going to be great and if he and right because he's going to sit more often than usual yeah and if he were an outfield eligible or something you bump him up a few rounds but the DH only sucks
Starting point is 00:14:10 in fact you know the fact that the counting stats aren't going to be so great because he will sit. Maybe round eight's a little early. Just as a hitter in this scenario. Okay. Good email. Food for thought could be an unbelievably valuable player in the right format.
Starting point is 00:14:25 He mentioned the wrong person as the potential number one pick who's not Trouter Yowage. Shurzer? No. Oh, God, no. Cole? No. Ronald Ocuna. Oh, yeah. He's arguably been
Starting point is 00:14:41 I think he's probably been a top three hitter in fantasy this season. No, I don't think so. I will tell you right now. No, I'm not sure. I would say since he moved to the lead-off spot, he probably is. But let's take a look. Top three in points. In Roto, in Roto, he's number two.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Oh, okay, he's number six in points. Number five. It's Yelich, Acuna, Bellinger, Trout. Yeah, you're right. I mean, I don't know that he's top five if he's not stealing, but if he is stealing, he's... Top three. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Or four. I think he's probably the third pick next year. Okay. Most added list. Most added list. What do we got? Probably a lot of players that we've talked about. I'm sorry, I'm looking at two-star pitchers, not most added list.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I have some weekend streamers for you later as well. Chris? Most added is Aaron Sanchez. Thank you. So he's one of the weekend streamers, as it turns out. If you trust him, he's got a good match at Baltimore, at Baltimore this weekend. before we talk about whether he's worth adding further, because he's 72% owned now, which is really high. I don't know how in the world he was 26% owned before he got to the Astros, but that's another story for another day.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I'm really, really, really interested in him and what he looked like in his first start with the Astros, and just the fact that it's the Astros. They had him stop throwing his sinker quite as much, and so it was more forcing. teamers up in the zone, curveballs down in the zone. And his sinker's been absolutely getting crushed the last couple of years. He's really, he's lost like four miles an hour off of it. And it's just not a super effective pitch anymore. He actually gives up a ton of homers with it. So if he switch, if the Astros, you know, they take this whole, this holistic approach
Starting point is 00:16:30 to pitching and they break guys down to their base components and then building them back up. And, you know, if they're able to say, here's what you do well, here's what you don't do, do the good things and not the bad things. things, there's still talent in this guy, and there's a reason they wanted to go get him. So that being said, I would feel more comfortable if he went out this weekend and had another good start. If he has a bad start, then it's probably like, oh, well, it's Aaron Sanchez. Yeah, yeah. All right. So certainly worth a look at Baltimore this weekend, Aaron Sanchez. Aaron Sanchez or Aaron Savali?
Starting point is 00:17:07 August Sanchez. Okay. Savali is starting Sunday. against Minnesota. Yeah, I just wonder how long is he likely to stay in the rotation? Yeah, and his next two starts are going to be at Minnesota, and then if he does make another one after that,
Starting point is 00:17:21 it'd be at the Yankees. So, tough sledding there. The most analyst is sort of ruining all of my segments that I have planned, but that's okay, because I have Mike Talkman, Giovanni Urchella, and Aristides Aquino
Starting point is 00:17:36 in the notes, because they just keep producing. And I think we've actually, like, sometimes we give you advice on who to pick up and it doesn't work and that's going to happen. I think we've been pretty good lately with Talkman having a massive week. I mentioned Urchella last weekend. He was a little dinged up.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I think I mentioned him on Monday. He's got four home runs in his last two games. R.S. Deves Aquino tied for the hardest hit home run of the season yesterday with a blast that he hit. Have you seen him? Yeah, he's gigantic. He is phenomenal. He is gigantic and he's got the Tony Batista batting style. So he's got his like full body facing the pitcher.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yep. Before he sets up, it's fantastic. Yeah. So those guys are doing really well. And I want to know who you're buying. And then there's Willie Calhoun is also on the most added list. J.D. Davis is also on the most added list. And we've spoken about them so much this week.
Starting point is 00:18:34 So I apologize. But they just keep producing. I don't want you to miss out on somebody that could be great. I think Talkman, I buy the least. Yeah. Orshella, I think I'm buying. Like what the H.E. Double hockey sticks is going on with Gio Orchella.
Starting point is 00:18:51 He changed his swing. Yeah, he couldn't hit before this. Yeah, yeah. He changed his strategy. He's got a 314 expected batting average and a 532 expected slugging percentage. He has a 391 woba and a 380X woba, 91% average 91 miles per hour average. He has a velocity, 42% hard contact. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:19:14 It doesn't make any sense. It went to the minors and the AAA hitting coach for the Yankees talked him about finishing his swing. And then again, they emphasized it up at the big leagues. And I was listening to this on the broadcast yesterday and on Sunday night baseball. But I guess on yesterday's broadcast on Yankees' Yes Network, they said he had, he barreled a lot of balls previously, but they would just kind of die in the outfield. He wasn't finishing his swing. So now he is, and he's obviously got a little more confidence now. But Perchella 60% on.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Not only that, Chris, he's got a path to clear playing time, at least for a little while. I'm buying it. He needs to be owned. Yeah, it's, I really, I don't get it at all. Because he couldn't hit in the minors either. It's not like he was like a good hitter in the minors who just couldn't figure. It's not like a Luis Erius situation. or something.
Starting point is 00:20:12 He stunk. Well, the Yankees, I think, deserve a little credit. Like, we give the Cardinals, like, we give the Astros for pitching. Yeah, they're very good at development. Yeah. But we don't buy Talkman as much because, like, looking, comparing the hitting profile of Talkman and Urchella, one appears to be very lucky. One appears to be very good.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And Talkman appears to be pretty lucky. 27% strikeout rate. 26.2% home run to fly ball rate. hits a lot of grounders, not a high hard contact rate. Urchella's just not like that. So would you rather, if you were just going to pick up one, position notwithstanding, would you pick up Aristides Aquino or Gio or Eurcella? Probably Urchella, but I do want to make clear.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I love Arsadis Aquino and what we've seen, Aquino, and what we've seen from him so far. You get rid of that till day, sir. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's a no I really You know We talked about him on Wednesday I think and And Thursday and Tuesday
Starting point is 00:21:19 But you and I talked about it On Wednesday And that's all that matters Hey I have news for you Okay Okay so I I put in a $3 bid for Akino Wednesday night and I got him
Starting point is 00:21:34 I got an email from someone in the league And he said You really had a bid $3 on him I was like, oh, you wanted him? He's like, yeah, I put a dollar in. And then he alerted me. I'm so embarrassed. I've been playing on CBS for 10 years.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I didn't know that in a Fab League, you can view the failed bids. You can see what other people bid, at least in our commissioner product. I believe that was a feature that was added last season. Okay, okay. It's so interesting. It makes you know if you really drastically overpaid for someone. So you can check that out if you go to the like the train if you go in the email that gives you the report, the nightly fab report. You can see the other bids.
Starting point is 00:22:20 If you click, there's a link to click in the email. So I think that's really cool, by the way. Anyone else on the most ad list jumping out to you? Mike Fultenevich is 63% owned. Scott Oberg is 55% owned. I prefer Brandon Workman who got a save yesterday, but they're both closers for their teams. and I think the Red Sox will have more save situations than the Rockies, but it's obviously a toss-up.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Trent Grisham's 33% owned. Dustin May is 68%. Archie Bradley's 39% owned. He's a closer. William Calhoun. Yeah. 52% own. 869 OPS since coming back from the miners,
Starting point is 00:23:01 and that's with like a 300 ISO. Who, Bill Calhoun? Billy Calhoun. He's hitting the ball very well. Willie Calhoun, 71 played appearances, 14 strikeouts. That's a pretty good strikeout to walk ratio as well. So, yeah, I like, I mean, I've always been a Willie Calhoun fan. I will continue to beat that drum.
Starting point is 00:23:22 He is just a hitter, pure and simple. Okay. All right, that would be a look at the most added list. Mike O'Stremsky, 35% on. I want to talk about him. He homered yesterday. He hasn't been great lately, but overall pretty good numbers for him.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Any interest in Mike Yostremski for the Giants, 35% own outfielder? Not really. A guy, maybe when they're on the road against good matchups you can use, but other than that, no. Okay. Double dongs from yesterday,
Starting point is 00:23:56 Hunter Dozier double-donged. He is having a huge August. After coming off the IEL, he was pretty bad for 35 games. and now hopefully turning things around. You never know how guys are going to react after missing a lot of time with an injury. Dozier still started in 78% of leagues, but he has an 11-13 OPS in August with four homers.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Nick Castiano's has been really good for the Cubs. And how about this? He has a very similar slash line to last year, Nick Castiano. Last year he was a top 16 outfielder. This year he's 32nd in points and 48th in Roto. Yeah, and you're saying he has a pretty similar slash line. Yes. Because he's got about 40, 45 games left in the season, and he has 47 fewer RBI than he had last year,
Starting point is 00:24:47 and he's got 22 fewer runs. So that's a pretty significant gap. And a lot of that was playing in Detroit. And a lot of it was he just wasn't very good when he was in Detroit. But yeah, the other thing is like, I don't think, as I recall, I don't think he was a lot better on the road. You know, it's going to be good to go to this park, but he didn't seem like a victim of the park. I just mean he was bad with Detroit. He was.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Why is Nick Castiano so much better in points leagues than Roto? 32nd outfielder in points, 46th and 48th in Roto. He has 43 doubles. That's a lot of doubles. Yeah, maybe those turned into home runs at Riggily. Brian Anderson, dude, I didn't realize it's 20. It's 73 games for Brian Anderson, Marlin's third baseman, with a 916 OPS. Last 28 days, he's 7th and points third in Roto.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I'm sorry, not third. Top 7 at third base, but 73 games now. Last year he was a batting average guy. This year he's got some pop. 916 OPS for Brian Anderson. Would you rather have Anderson or Urchella? Urshela because of the park and because of the lineup. But Anderson is, he's a ball player.
Starting point is 00:26:09 You think so? Yeah. I think he's pretty good. Okay. This isn't a lie like Gary Cooper, is it? I mean, look, look. Brian Anderson was okay last year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:23 No. Yeah. Why I keep saying it like that. Yeah. All right. And then guys, we keep talking. about. Let's see if there's anyone else. Oh, so two other guys. Mike Talkin was on this list. Aristides Aquino was on this list. Ian Hap homered yesterday. So now he has started at second base two
Starting point is 00:26:38 straight days. He's been terrific. Ten games since coming up, 333 batting average, six walks, seven strikeouts, three homers. So very intrigued by Ian Hap. He's only 16% owned. And Travis DeMert doesn't have the flashy numbers that the other guys have, but he has seven walks to 10 strikeouts. I think he walked three times yesterday. He homered. yesterday, I believe. He has two triples in eight games. So Ian Hap and Travis DeMered are barely owned, and now's your time to get them. Who would you prefer?
Starting point is 00:27:07 They're both outfield eligible. Probably Hap. He did show a little bit better plate discipline. I mean, 65 walks, 113 strikeouts, and 99 games. That's still a lot of strikeouts, but you're talking about a 26% strikeout rate versus 31
Starting point is 00:27:25 last year? What are you laughing after? You were like, he did show a plate discipline. Like, it was just funny. sort of, it was funny. Sorry. Look, look, sometimes, uh, sometimes, you know, in trains, when you like hit the switch and it switches tracks,
Starting point is 00:27:43 that happens to my train of thought sometimes. Okay. Fair enough. Uh, yeah, all right. So, be in hap, that's wonderful. It's a literal train in this metaphor. It is. I don't know if you were, you caught that.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Train of thought, train, money train, bad movie. We'll be back after this quick break with the good, the bad and the ugly pitching performance. performances yesterday, and some two-star pitchers and some weekend streamers back right after this. Chris Towers? Chris Sail was very good. Chris Sale was very good yesterday. Eight scoreless with 13 strikeouts.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Mike Clevenger's been awesome pretty much all year when he's pitched. Seven or more innings and three of his last four starts. He has a 302 ERA after a very good start at the Twins yesterday. And Madison Bumgarner, I'm going to call him good because seven innings without earn runs. Very good. only one hit, but three strikeouts for Bumgarner. He has a 6% swinging strike rate in his last three starts. That is extremely low.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Those are the three good pitchers from yesterday that I wanted to talk about. Sale, Clevenger, and Bumgarner, Chris. Chris Sale just continues to have a really weird season. It doesn't make any sense. I did see one thing that was interesting. I think it was a Red Sox writer. I can't remember who it was who pointed this out. But it seemed like the issue for him was,
Starting point is 00:29:00 he was struggling to get right handers out because of his changeup. So I wonder if that's part of it, why he's struggled. It's just been a weird season because he's allowing like a sub-700 OPS. He's got all these strikeouts, but he's got a 441 ERA still. I don't know. Okay. Yeah, I'm starting him every time. I say it every time.
Starting point is 00:29:26 You just, you don't sit Chris Sale because when he's good, he has, he has these an unbelievably dominant starts. Yeah. Would you take Clevenger or Sale? It's a fair question at this point. Clevenger or sale. I think it's still sale. We just got a Chris sigh there.
Starting point is 00:29:44 That's pretty good. You know, I want to say, like, I used to sigh a lot more. That used to be my thing. Oh, you're upset. I don't know why we turned. I'm not upset. I'm just pointing out a fact
Starting point is 00:29:58 that Chris sighing. used to be a thing and now we've all just decided Heath is the only one who expels air while thinking Ah Do it! Do it, do it.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I got another one sent to me today by our producers, so everybody's on the case now of trying to find some Heath size. The bad pictures from yesterday, Domingo Armand, scoreless through four innings, then gave up four runs, three earned in the fifth inning at Toronto, and
Starting point is 00:30:35 Domingo Ramon has an 887 ERA third time through the order, but he also has a 15 and two record. Aaron Nola, you know, only two quality starts in his last five starts, five innings, three runs at San Francisco. It's been a little frustrating, but overall, the trends are good for Nola, I think. And then I don't know if there's a more frustrating pitcher than John Gray. Matchups, ballpark, just doesn't seem to matter. At the end of the day, we have a strikeout printing and a 406 ERA and just very inconsistent work. So Domingo Armand, Aeron,
Starting point is 00:31:05 Arenola, John Gray, anything to say about these dudes? Dominger Armand. Dominger. Dominger. Okay. Domingo Arman is going to be wildly overdrafted next season. Well, where do you think he's going to go?
Starting point is 00:31:24 Well, he's a Yankee, and he's going to finish really high in the season-long ranks. I don't know. I guess he's like a sixth or seventh rounder. Yeah. I don't think he's going to be worth that. He's got a 459 FIP.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Yeah, well, he has a 405 ERA. Yeah. But I just, I look at his ERA two things. One, he has struggled against good competition. Two, he struggled badly when he was dealing with a hip injury or whatever it was for three starts that really bloated his ERA and put him on the IL. I like him. I mean, you know, it's like he's having so much success that it's almost detrimental to his fantasy value because you should be looking at him as like a young pitcher
Starting point is 00:32:14 who's got some good stuff and has some potential, but he's not an ace. And you're right, people might draft him to be close to it and they probably would be drafting him a little early. But I like him. I don't want to crap on him. I just don't think he's great. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. I'm not saying he's terrible by any means. Just that there might be some who view him, not just as a guy who had this very good 2019
Starting point is 00:32:40 that may not actually have been what happened, but also just as this big breakout can. And I think what's more likely to happen is he's going to have to take a step forward to repeat his 2019 value. How do you feel about John Gray? Do you start John Gray or do you sit him? I think you probably start him just because at the end of the day, like you said, it's a 4ERA and a strikeout per inning.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And, you know, that's not a star. It's not a must start player. But when he's good, he's really good. When he's bad, he's usually pretty terrible. And there does, like you said, there doesn't seem to be any consistency to it. He's not a guy who has been hurt by Corse Field throughout his career, really. So it's not even an Armand-Marquez thing where you can say, well, just start him on the road. I think you just kind of ride
Starting point is 00:33:33 It's also a 139 whip though So you know you got You know not a great chance for wins Although he does have 10 Which isn't bad You got a very high whip You got a on the high side ERA But one you can live with
Starting point is 00:33:48 I wish the strikeouts were more like the 9.6 last year Than 9.1 It's not a huge difference But it's not nothing All right Yeah okay make your decision He's obviously not a must-start guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:03 But just know that a home start against the Diamondbacks next week. You don't have to sit him because he's at home. It's just not how John Gray works. Yeah, I'm just kind of at this point. I'm sort of personally over John Gray. I don't think I drafted him anywhere. Same. This season.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And that's just kind of how I feel about him is I don't see the jump coming. And like you said, he's a four ERA and a one-three-five, one-four whip. Not like he's terrible, but it's just not particularly exciting. One four whip is terrible. But, you know, it's high. He might, I don't know if he has a high Babbitt, but his walk rate's up this year. I don't own John Gray either. It's kind of difficult for me to talk about John Gray because I'm sure there are situations
Starting point is 00:34:45 where you start him. It might depend on the rest of your pitching staff and what you expect from them. The Ugly from yesterday. Dallas Kichel. 10 hits eight runs and three and two-thirds at Miami. Cole Hamels, three innings, four runs at Cincinnati. Matt Boyd, man, three homers allowed against Kansas City. That gives him 26 homers allowed in 140 and two-thirds.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Five runs in two-and-two-thirds for Matt Boyd. Kyle Gibson was bad. I have noticed Kyle Gibson is another guy. When the matchups are tough, he does not pitch well. And it doesn't really surprise me, to be quite honest. And he's at Milwaukee next week, so I'm going to be hesitant. And then Alex Wood was awful. And that's why I just cannot trust him in a two-star week next week.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Not yet. Kikele, Hamels, Boyd, Gibson. How would you rank those for? Oh, I think Boyd's still at the top. The peripherals are still a little bit better than the ERA. And then I would go... Hamels. Hamels, Gibson, Kikl would.
Starting point is 00:35:49 You'd go Gibson over Kikl? I think so, yeah. Why was I so happy when I saw that Kikl got crushed? Does that mean? Because you're a jerk. Yeah, I... Because you're just a big jerk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I think I have a drop for that. It's this. Azor, you suck. Yeah, that's right. Who's that? Some guy. Azar, you suck. Yeah, yeah, that's me.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Okay. Oh, that was me. Sorry, I call. Deep Leagues, Ellie Azer. Ellie, Azer Hernandez, and Dylan Peters. They're both 6% owned. Any interest in these guys? guys. More interest in Eliezer Hernandez. He has been pretty impressive when he's gotten the opportunity to start with the Marlins. I think I want to say his ERA when he's a starter is a lot better than when he's been a reliever. And he's back in the rotation, likely for good in the aftermath of the Trevor Richards trade. So I like what we've seen from him a lot. And I'm trying to pull up those starter reliever stats.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Okay. Eliezer Hernandez. He has a 4.08 ERA as a starter, which isn't great, but a 1.13 whip 9.3K per 9. He's been pretty good as a starter. Let's look at two-star pitchers for Fantasy Week 21. So it's not great for waivers. We've already established that. And I'm just trying to see if there are any question marks here. Domingo Ramon, after the bad start, you're still going to use them in a two-star week,
Starting point is 00:37:28 against Baltimore and Cleveland. Yep. Cleveland, by the way, could be in first place by the end of the weekend. That's wild. Zach Wheeler we're going with, Paxton.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Eduardo Rodriguez, at Cleveland and home against Baltimore. Eduardo Rodriguez at Cleveland, home against Baltimore. I'm starting. Max Freed,
Starting point is 00:37:48 home against the Mets, who could be a wild card team by the end of the weekend, and home against the Dodgers, freed against the Mets and Dodgers. No. Yeah, yeah, no. Maybe in a points league,
Starting point is 00:37:59 but now the Mets have been really hitting the ball well. Zach Plyzac. Facing Eduardo Rodriguez and James Paxson, Plizac has Boston at home and the Yankees on the road. I don't think I could. Jose Cantana at Philadelphia and at Pittsburgh. He's like John Gray to me. Like not the same profile,
Starting point is 00:38:22 but just in terms of you don't know when they're going to have good starts. They have a lot of really bad starts. Yeah, I think you can go ahead and start him. Jose Cantana? Yeah. Okay. Are you looking at the most added list?
Starting point is 00:38:36 No. Okay. Well, I had to. Okay, I got it. I'm back. I'm looking at, no, I'm looking at, uh, I've got a little cheat sheet here because I've got Scott White's sleeper or two-star pitcher rankings, which aren't up on the site yet. I'm not sure I'm going to start Zach Gallen at Colorado and home against San Francisco. Scott has him as his number 10 two-star pitcher.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I'm not sure I would probably start him in a points league but things can go really, really wrong in Colorado, so not in a Roto league. Joey Lucchasey. Yeah, I don't share the same enthusiasm here with Joey Lucchasey. Yeah, he's at the bottom
Starting point is 00:39:20 of Scott's sleepers. So he's a really borderline guy. Jordan Yamamoto. No, you can't do that. Dodgers at home, Colorado on the road, no. No way. Brendan McKay at San Diego and home against Detroit. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yeah, definitely start him. Yeah, Alex Wood, I've said like a million times. I'm not going to do it. Mike Leak is at Colorado and home against San Francisco? No. Martine Perez at Milwaukee and at Texas. Seems like a big no to me. Yeah, I mean, Milwaukee hasn't been very good for a little while now,
Starting point is 00:39:56 but no, I'd leave him for just a deeper leave. Thank you. Anthony DiScliffeani. I just don't trust them. How about you? Same. Jason Vargas is not the worst option. Cubs and Padres at home. There are worse options.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Yeah. He's borderline. I probably would rather start Dylan Seas versus the Astros and at the Angels. Okay. Trevor Williams, at the Angels and home against the Cubs. I just don't think he's. He's good.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Okay. The last start was terrible. Brett Anderson at San Francisco and home against Houston. I would stream him at San Francisco. Okay. But not as a two-start. John Means, you say Kikuchi, Yvonne Nova, and then it gets, I shouldn't have even said Yvonne Nova's name.
Starting point is 00:40:57 John Means just has such horrible matchups that I can't. I think he's interesting, but no, not against the Yankee, at Yankee Stadium and at Fianke. Fenway. There's no way. This is a really good week for elites two-star pitchers. You've got, like Jack Flaherty, Lance Lynn, Mike Clevenger, Zach
Starting point is 00:41:15 Grinke, Clinton, Curshaw, Garrick Cole, you are set. You're moving on to the next round. Domingo, Ramon. I know, I'm just joking. But yeah, other than that, it's going to be really hard to find streamers and you're probably better off avoiding it. All right, let's do some weekend
Starting point is 00:41:33 streamers then for this weekend. Friday, we've got a 75% on Brad Keller at Detroit. You like him? Yeah. Minnesota's starting pitcher, Devin Smelzer. Would you want to keep Smelzer or Deltser Smelter? Who is he playing?
Starting point is 00:41:53 I know, he's facing Cleveland. No, I wouldn't start. Do you believe in him? Because he's been pretty good last couple times out. Not particularly, no. Texas starting pitcher, Colby. Allard at Milwaukee.
Starting point is 00:42:07 No, no. I'm interested to see what he looks like. He was really bad in his brief stay in the majors last year and kind of lost some prospect shine, but I'm interested. Kobe Allard, what he looks like?
Starting point is 00:42:23 He has long hair. Thank you, Adam. Yeah, he's left. Very helpful. Calquantrol's been pitching pretty well lately, and he's got Colorado at home. Yeah, he usually has an opener, right?
Starting point is 00:42:41 He's listed as a starter, but sometimes he has an opener. I don't think so, actually. I think he's usually a starter. I don't hate that matchup, no. Okay, I'm not 100% on that, but I'm not going to start Jalen Beeks at Seattle. I can't imagine he's going to go super deep into the game. No, probably not. All right, Saturday.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Is that a start? Yeah, it's listed right now as a start. Sometimes that changes throughout the day, but yeah. So Saturday Jacob Wagaspak against the Yankees. No, no. Yeah, I don't... Sorry, I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:43:18 He's a Blue Jays pitcher with a fun name. We've got... It's a fun name. Vince Velazquez at Jeff Samarja, either of these guys' possibilities. Yeah, yeah, I would prefer to start Velasquez given the matchup. But either of them at
Starting point is 00:43:34 Oracle. Yeah, Oracle Field. Oh, yeah, it is Oracle. Oracle Park? It's Oracle Park. I thought he was in Philly, but it's an Oracle Park. Yeah, I think I would give Vince Velasquez a try. All right, yes or no.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Andrew Hini at Boston, no. Sandy Alcantara against Atlanta. No. Aaron Sanchez at Baltimore. Maybe. I have to write that down. Okay. That was amazing.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Rinaldo Lopez against Oakland. How is his last few starts gone? Has he maintained? He's been okay. He's walking guys. Yeah, I think he's pretty... He's interesting, but probably not. Alex Young at the Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:44:30 No. Asher Wojahowski, we go to Sunday. Wojahowski against Houston. No, he's got really bad matchups coming up. I think he's got Houston, Yankees, and then Boston right in a row, or something like that. Okay. Patrick Sandival for the 8. Angels at Boston.
Starting point is 00:44:48 No. Aaron and Abol Sanchez at the Mets. I think we might have exhausted our Anabal Sanchez run. Like it was a fun run. But last time out was six innings one run, but only three strikeouts. I'm getting a little. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I think he's better than a lot of the guys you've met. Yeah, Annabal Sanchez, okay. Mike Fultenevich at the Marlins. Sure. Jake Junis at the Tigers. Yeah. Jordan Liles against the Rangers. No.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Aaron Savoy at the Twins. No. Chris Bassett at the White Sox. Yeah. Denelson Lamet at home against the Rockies. Yeah. Ryan Yarbrow at the Mariners. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Mike Leak of the Dodgers. No. We're out of here. Thanks for listening, everybody. Hope you have a wonderful, wonderful week. Wonderful for weekend. One of my better outros. With D'Aidu, for Chris, I'm Adam.
Starting point is 00:45:51 See you later.

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